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Local Hour: Billy Gil Loves Coupons

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

38:22 min | 4 months ago

Local Hour: Billy Gil Loves Coupons

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Game is over at the first period so happens. That's what happens. The lightning apparently the lightning apparently brought their murder weapons. They could your all he. Shit guns gujarat. Appoint amazing eros. He brought everything bullshit. Stamkos score twice right ed. How many for kucherov at nc. It'll do is he going from winston one. You master sneak that goal in their continued as a game streak. We're not good enough to beat them. No one is the the lightning fans think that the panthers are the dirty ones. that's impossible. I'm serious like they're all like i saw a friend of mine was like. Oh you know. We beat the Who they beat in the last round carolina carolina were worthy opposition. Unlike those dirty panthers. Wow the the the shoe's on the other foot in that series I guess i guess. The butcher doesn't work well for opposition. I guess it'd be my guess not a worthy opposite. We had home ice in the first round wound because we already. We're a better team this year. Now i mean like we're the in terms of like you know not dirty and You know you know how many boarding calls that went on in the first. How many roy. I was there about five. Wow five still talking about those fraud. Panthers were no the on the on the frauds in the tampa bay lightning. I mean they're they're going to win the stanley cup. But they're gonna do so while cheating. Bullshit mr ticketless salary caps convincing than i mean. What's her my are like kucherov. Shing be playing break. Stamkos showed it was injury. Red as andrea kucherov base. It was like out for the entire regular season and got special dispensation to play in the playoffs and skated with the team for month. Iota playoffs now completely healthy. He had three assists less. He's really good. Yup when i when i turn on the tv i saw eight. Neil's like my god mill times. It's better safe than sorry with injuries. Know what i mean. And i think that it's it's showing here. This was the case with the lightning. You're really gonna do. Devil's advocate for the tampa bay lightning. Why do you mean he wasn't injured. Bill well maybe he was some of it but for the end of it very healthy doctor. Are you yet when someone is on the ice skating for a month. They're healthy go get mcgillicuddy coney. Thank you blame. Mom blame the league. Not the lightning. Thank you greg. First off your posts. Sickness hair is just a marvel everywhere and second. Your voice actually sounds tremendous. Wow how about that. Yeah it's being sick has like a little bit of a silver lining in that. Your voice is a little bit of base to it. I feel like. I have adults at tone. You should rerecord the ballot of fourteen forty with this voice. You really give you something. I'm going to rerecord all my songs like dealers with do you have more than one. I have to Letting go i found this interesting. Thought that you to actually. Yeah you don't. Even though he was rolling what is what is the origins of that song. Assam style late. Yeah he he. He stole it from him after he passed. I didn't i didn't steal from a my recorded it in his home studio and He was kind enough to let me record it. And i did and Dan actually played it on the show. Played it in its entirety which was a mind blower. Because it's like a five minute song it over there. You might have it in the library. Do we get that from espn. Let's see if you wrestled if we can find your actually sound like a white freddy cruz. Remember freddy cruz. Dan i do. I love his hair. I'd not freddy cruz. I love greg. Cody hair it. Looks like it is actively trying to get away from him running off my scalp letting goes what. It's called way. Mad scientist yeah. I'm sorry. I'm a little ill today. I apologize for that. Greg cody is not in with us today. Trying to do this via zoom and we've got things to talk about. We have legitimate progress whether it is a gay football player in the nfl. Whether it's a supreme court justice talking about the ncaa in a way that is long overdue whether it is juneteenth and there are societal things to talk about but we begin with the most obvious important thing of the day which is brook. Lopez slapped the nets emblem. Oh boy brook lopez slot. The emblem a former net. And when big baby davis saw kyrie irving do that kyri irving stepped on it. He lost his mind. Said that kyrie irving better be careful because people might get legitimately hurt. He said then. After after kyrie irving got legitimately hurt but not the ways that big baby was threatening. He said it was karma but we have not made the same story out of brook. Lopez's slapping the nets emblem after ending their season. Why is that. He stepped on the be Actually that didn't happen what it didn't happen. He didn't step on it. He did it with his hands. But it must have happened in game six because game. Seven was in milwaukee. And i don't think that there was an attempt lament so we just missed that entire story when we we didn't spend a lot of time on brook lopez doing that cody of these other three stories that i mentioned and when cavanaugh stugatz eviscerates the ncaa when that guy specifically sees that something is wrong it has to be pretty damn off if he sees the wrong in it. There's something wrong and scorched. The ncaa will read part of it to be sure the ncaa and its member colleges maintain important traditions. That have become part of the fabric of america. Game days in tuscaloosa south bend the pack gyms and stores in. Durham the women's and men's lacrosse championships on memorial day. Weekend track and field meets and eugene the spring softball and baseball world series and oklahoma city omaha. The list goes on but those traditions alone cannot justify the ncaa's decision to build a massive money raising enterprise on the backs of student. Athletes who are not fairly compensated. Nowhere else in. America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers. A fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate and under ordinary principles of antitrust law. It is not evident white. college board. Should be any different. The ncaa is not above the law. You have been someone over the years. Cody that has argued. The wrong side of this argued over the years. The wrong side. And now you've got a supreme court justice telling you in pretty bold terms that the way that the ncaa does. It is is literally unjust of always a been very consistent on the way i feel about this whole topic. Which is that if you wanna break it down trevor lawrence Had a lot to do with his universities. Success and money making and national stature The the walk on third team guard does not. So if you talk about the worth of college football players and the value They have for their work. You have to break it down because it's unlike any other Sport in in in major league. Baseball the the twenty-fifth guy the last guy The utility player. He does contribute more than the last player of ninety. Or a hundred and five on a college football rosser. So you know absolutely Top college football players deserve money and coaches. Get too much of it and there needs to be a more equitable pie chart. But how do you determine How much to pay every college football player at all. Different echelons of their contribution. That's the only sticking point that no one's ever answered satisfactorily me greg. It's like every other sport they'll figure that part out all of them deserve to be paid especially you know football basketball those types. They all deserve to be paid or at least have the right to use their name and likeness to create income for themselves at some. They'll figure out you know the pay structure and you're right trevor. Lawrence does deserve more than you know. The third guy on the roster. But they'll figure that part out it's like every other sport they're making billions of dollars of these kids and these kids deserve the right to get paid all of them. You know i i. I can't argue with that but again I if it's a non revenue sport if it's the bottom of the pecking order and not to single out rowing. But you know. You're you're on the rowing team You're on scholarship. So you're getting a free ride You're the least valuable player on your rowing team. Do you really deserve money on top of that scholarship. I'm just asking the question. The interesting thing is that have you guys. You know singled out cavanaugh for his politics but actually the fact that he is a conservative on the court. It kind of is in keeping with this conversation. He's talking about the free market. That is very conservative. Point of view politically so basically all. He's saying to your question. Greg is whatever that rower is worth whenever that football player is worth this business treated like and you would any other business where there are people on the bottom and and there are people on the top. there's trevor lawrence and then there's the ninetieth guy on akron's football team right and you treat them as if it is i financial market. Which had very much is he wrote. Price-fixing labor is price labor and price-fixing labor is ordinarily a textbook antitrust problem because it extinguishes the free market in which individuals can otherwise obtain fair compensation for their work. Yes jessica. I just think we're not celebrating this momentous occasion which is that. We have a thing that everyone agrees on like all nine justices agree that the nc double a. is wrong and it's basically brought together both sides of extremely divided political spectrum whether it's on the name image likeness are on this antitrust case. But like this is amazing. We've all been wondering like what is something that can bring america together and now we have it can during the nc double a. Wrong and bad and outdated. It's amazing we should be celebrating. Okay here's where. I just tap the breaks a little bit on amazing and celebrating because the three things that i mentioned as progress are so obviously long overdue that it becomes stupid right the idea that a gay football player the idea that in football we're sitting here wondering about who football players having sex with as if it is something that matters the idea that we're still talking about the stupidity of a rule book in the ncaa that shares the money when the rulebook was made before the tv dollars made an appearance. The idea on that. We are celebrating a national holiday with bed. Bath and beyond sending coupons to celebrate videla's years late that the news got to texas that the slaves have been liberated while we're in acting voting laws that continue to be obscene. These are forms of progress and they are symbols and they are worth celebrating. But i tap the breaks on the applause just because these things are so incredibly overdue and the steps being taken in twenty twenty one or so tiny e even as they feel large and or worth celebrating. We all know that right. We all know they're long overdue. I think most people acknowledge and realize that they should still. I'm with jazz. Like and i understand what you're saying. They should still be celebrated because yet took a long time to get here. But we're getting there rights. I mean it depends on whether you're black or not. Are we getting there. Yeah congratulations you got a day off on juneteenth and we're still fighting in georgia about whether you can vote correctly like yeah. They're small progress. There's people still fighting all over the place. About like nibs nice nacer abs life might find itself in arenas where it is getting a lot of applause publicly and in the shadows you still have all the people cloaked in religion and hatred in doubt who are gonna come after him and make his life harder than it was the day before yesterday. Well i i don't think we can pat ourselves on the back for any of this. I think that is just in terms of the nc. Double a decision like this is how it works in the american court system. It takes years for a challenge to make its way to the supreme court and i think that it's great that i finally got there. And in twenty twenty one everyone agrees. Ncwa model of amateurism being the defining definition of the league itself the governing body itself is that doesn't work in any other spheres a. Why should it work in the nc double a. and with college athletics and it's only ever overdue if it is the consensus of both political parties or of people in america. Right the you know. The two most notable things that have changed in my lifetime that we're kind of off debated issues were marijuana and gay marriage that have been overturned and took a growing year by year incremental growth in the public opinion on that and i think college athletes getting paid kind of reached a critical mass. I really don't know when. I mean it might be the so many scandals that we just kinda all became sick of the issue and say all right well as doing it anyway. You might as well do it legally but either way. The tides have turned on this issue. And the hope is all these other issues that you're talking about the tides will eventually turn on them but it only can when it's a consensus of kind of t. Two elements one the elementary talked about the free market ellen but also a cultural one because a conservative argument against college athletes getting paid was a cultural one on the basis of frankly race But also on. I want to preserve this thing that i love you say cultural and i do think something that is worth applauding. Today is generational. I do believe that the two issues that you mentioned marijuana and sexuality are two things that come from young people being a less repressed group of people and does make me hopeful in the football locker room. That's the generation that is playing football that that generation is less repressed than the one that came before it and again. I'm just strictly talking about the nc double a supreme court decision but I think that to your point woody. The tides changed win in the last ten years the television contracts for college athletics blew up inflated way past what they were in the nineties in the early two thousands like this. You know this could have still happened. Had that not occurred but there was a big difference in the way the sport was making money in two thousand and five versus how it is in twenty twenty one and with the college football playoff in all of the tv rights deals. I think that really accelerated this into the supreme court and into the you know people kind of having a consensus that yeah it's not fair that dabo sweeney makes this much. Millions of dollars per year and clemson makes millions of dollars per year but trevor lawrence makes zero dollars and he's not allowed to make any money. What is the chat argument. That has broken out as this serious. Societal discussion has happened. It has been instigated by chris cody. We're just interested in these coupons. You got a never expire these coupons by the way. Don't don't don't fall for that date. Uc on there yeah. Where'd you get. These coupes dan by the way. Because you see nancy coupon which is a strange thing. Where'd you get them. Because none of us seemed to get these coupon for all of your yam ring. Billy the place that you decided to be more efficient is cutting under syllable off the word coupons. To some sick call. I got emailed a bed bath and beyond happy juneteenth promotion that was twenty percent off percent. Wow yes have you ever used coupon or coupe. Yeah when's the last time you used the coup. I'm not really a coupe user. Really do you mean they never expired. Chris don't say that. Allow those one of those secrets. They do actually expire you. Look at these coupons. It will say expires whenever they don't you take them to bed bath and beyond you. Just use them. They take any coupon that's ever been made. We'll check it a traitor billy. You're of the opinion when this conversation made an appearance that bed bath and beyond was no longer had gone to great to the great bed bath and beyond the bed bath and beyond by where you know. I'd take my dogs it to get a bath in a haircut did close so i thought hey they must all be closing right. But i guess not because sending coupons so that's exciting good for them batmobile odd. I know i d. Did you just way you take your dog to get route yet. Dogs get groomed. Dan just like humans i understand. They get groomed. I did not know bed bath and beyond did that. I thought they sold bath. Wear i did not know you get a bath. I think he takes the dog there. Now i take the dog next door to peg smarter now. Bath where the only one that after watching click. Yes really wanted to one time. Take a nap in a bed. Bath and beyond it. Just you walk by those beds. It just looks like it'd be a nice experience of all of all department stores. Would you most want to take a nap in. Put it on the mattress store manager. Everyone's gonna i agree agrees. Yeah i think. I think the mattress stores too obvious. Everyone wants to take a nap and a mattress store and also like you're getting in the way of people doing their thing whereas like you go to like the second floor of the macy's at to ramal and they're they're all these beds there. Everyone's really there for clothes and for all the other stuff that has to offer. We can sneak away and catch a nap. No-one might even notice. I just feel like chris. Cody is the type of person to go to home depot and take shed in like one of the model toilets. I'll try it out for comfort. Yeah tested out. Put it on the poll. Place doesn't flush lebatardshow. Do you want a nap in bed. Bath and beyond. That's obvious does chris. Cody looked like he would take a shit. In one of the model toilets match beyond. Was that a laptop greg cote he's not feeling well. I don't know how long he's going to last today. Support for this. Podcast comes from invent together. 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And there's little in life that's more annoying than being in line at the grocery store behind the coupon freak. I don't mean the person using a single coupon to get forty cents off a can of coffee. I mean the person who has a coupon booklet. Who is a professional coupon user. Who's literally going to hold up the line for ten minutes. While all of her coupons are processed or mean to be sexist there his coupons put it on the poll at lebatardshow. Guillermo put it on the poll plays. Is there anything more annoying than being in line behind the coupon freak at lebatardshow. I'm stunned to hear you. Say that. Greg because i know you to be a very cheap man. Yeah that's the stereotype that you keep promoting but I'm actually a very generous man. But you know almost moved to the point where i will pay the woman in front of me. The person in front of me The money that her coupon were just to expedite the pronoun game. Better than this. Will you please stop making it a woman and also ask crack. Call your mom. I wanna ask her if your father is cheap because he keeps denying this up. Those are on the board. Those those are three coughs that are not laugh related. I don't think they're laugh related. Let's call her lane and find out whether she thinks her husband is cheap. You've known greg greg okay. Yeah i'm good. I agree jacket on you. You've now greg for a while. now dan. Do you imagine greg being type of person that would just give someone. Hey here's twenty bucks get the hell out of my line now. Sure no absolute well maybe five five for sure probably not twenty. Can you do the. I want you to do this the next time. You're at publix. You're behind someone who is using a lot of coupons. Which by the way. I don't see any more. I i haven't been behind. Someone who is who is abusing the automatic in the system. Now for the most part right and i mean like for the most part of the bow goes and the and the discounts are just already on the isles already. They're just marked. You don't need coupons anymore. But but greg. I would like to the next time to record when you're behind someone who is abusing coupon record or giving them ten dollars okay. I'll absolutely do that. Cortez that's a good idea. Actually i will court cortes put a great thing in the chat sharper image. Great place to take a nap. All the massage chairs the best thing even though v fifty eight people sitting those shares day. You get minutes on that. You need to keep. I hate the person at the sharper. Image spent forty five minutes in a massage chair. That's not the point of that. Also you're never gonna buy that chair so why you've been sitting. What about getting. Have you ever seen the people that who gets a regular messiah. Ever have at the mall. You walk by the massage. People who they're over there are always people. They're getting a massage. Who gets massage when people are just walking by a mall. Such an odd place for massage po. Please who gets a massage in a mall when people are walking by yes or no also put it on the poll. Do you hate the person in the massage chair at the sharper image. Chris is your point here that like you don't want to get a massage while around other people because i feel like it's there for people who didn't realize that they needed a massage you. It'll be good for right now a massage. The the the pressure that you feel when you walk by. And they don't have someone in their chair. They always early. Hey here. I'm just like i don't make eye contact i. I feel really uncomfortable in those spots. Because i'll just say yes. If i really get pinned down. How do you feel about a blackjack massage. Oh that's terrible you soon. You're sat at the chair. How dare you terrible. What do you mean terrible. What's terrible blackjack. Masai listen what. I have. A sixteen and the dealer has six that i decided to hit at the end of the table. I did max concentration. Okay i don't need. I don't need anyone on my back. Put it on the poll. Guillermo do you like a black jack massage. Also billy why were you rubbing your hands together. When the coupon conversation made an appearance you were very excited. You were made very happy. I don't know what it is that made you so happy. Already said bug. I love a good bogus. Sometimes it just walk up and down the aisles at the grocery store and see what's on bogo and if i need it i get to them if i don't i get it anyways. That's the way the bogo works doesn't have a coupon drawer at home. I used some coupon so frequently that i already know the code on the coupon and i'll just tell it to the person on the say. What's the number on the coupon. And just have in my brain from memory. And i just tell it to them and sometimes spoiler alert. I don't have the coupon. I just know the coupon code and i know guess what five dollars camper instead of eight dollar walker burger king. Eight hundred sixty years. Where do you guys get coupons. I haven't seen a couponing years. He's a good coupon book Such a good question jessica. Because they're not in newspapers anymore. They held they held afloat. Greg cody for so long people so often. We're getting that sunday paper because there was a treasure chest of gold. It was it was really. It was so many savings housewives and men throughout america work. Oh we're cutting coupons and going to the grocery store with them when i was working at publix ten years ago vow is the main appeal of buying the newspaper on sunday there. So many people that showed up with the miami herald because they wanted to. Then get the coupons for the remainder of the week. I can't imagine that still is an appeal of the newspaper business which is probably a bad thing because it used to be the classifieds then it was the coupons and now what do you got now just greg cote underwear. Am right. public says a chico. Post when you walk into says the coupons right in the entrance right so they have to coupon books guys. If you go to publish needs to be big very close attention they have to. They have the weekly sales wednesday. The tuesday each wednesday is the new one and then they have the manufacturer coupons. Those are the ones that you need to turn in when you find it so like if you're going to buy and you get a dollar off is that's not a scoop coupon. That's a manufacturer coupon that you need to give them separately or you're not gonna get the dollar off of ising just an example. I'm not saying vaccine is on sale. So don't rush the public's now another way you get coupons justice you're asking emails lots coupons. Sometimes i go to the mailbox. There's just a ton of coupons in the mailbox. I don't know who the coupon varies puts them there. But to coupons get delivered to my house. Sometimes i go through. It's usually groceries now. Apps also asked tons of coupons in apps but you have to get the asked for the particular busy goto which brings me to my next idea. I was thinking about this yesterday when you guys were talking about ads and have an idea for an app. If you'd like to indulge me. Thank you dan. The app is called the app and this app has every app in. So then you don't need to Laps just how the app and then you want. Go to burger king and get some coupons. Just go to the type in burger king. Boom they pop up you want to go to the home depot stipend boom boom home depot. There it is in the app. Everything's in the app. Daniela olive garden. You want to go to the olive garden. Boom you just put it in there in the app. Anything you want. It's in the app mattress giant in the app. Everything's there. I just feel like when i was younger. Like coupons sought me out. And now what billy saying is like you have to seek them out. Can we all can. We agree on the pronunciation of coupon or coupon coupon. I'm going. i'm going for coupon. Saint groupon coupon who put it on the pole guillermo at lebatardshow coupon or coupon d like the idea of the app. It's a terrible idea. But what. I do wanna pursue though what i wanted absolutely pursue because i really feel like it's glossed over here is i don't know maybe the rest of you were aware of this. I had no idea that this would be the billy gill wheelhouse did not no no. I did not know that. His level of enthusiasm was memorizing. Coach you guys knew. Suckers burger king by not having coupons on him and he just got memorized code. He loves not. Let's not say that loud because now they're going to change the code and then i need to remember another one just eight nine six zero. I have a coupon george. You guys not have coupon doors anymore than not a thing that still going on at my wife hates this right now should get very excited. No i'm rubbing my answer together. Now we know billy once. I d only one here because don't think i've ever seen in this happy. I was what maybe that day. I was there for the birth of me but like he is super enthusiastic because he is the rest of us are like. Where do you get coupons. And all of us are judging coupons and he is leaning into no. I'm coupon man. I want to know where the coupon ferry is. That delivers coupons to my mailbox. Yeah he loves a deal. Billy's been a guy good deal Okay okay but like we all love a good deal right like i'm a sucker for a sale. It's just like the physical magazine coupons. Like when i was little there used to be coupons all over the house we had a coupon drawer to but now i haven't seen one in years. Good deal though. Just sometimes you got to work very hard for it. That's that's the deal. Chris cody please. Put it on the poll. Because billy's hands are full. Are you a sucker for sale at lebatardshow. What is this delight. What are these trinkets that you have brought our way here billy. Did you empty the coupon drawer. What is it that you have in your hands. Yeah i did. I went and i got a select number of these coupons that they've sent so just go through them really quick. The problem with coupons. Dan as chris kind of pointed out they expire right. So when you put something in the coupon or you don't know that it's going to expire soon so you don't do with so this one is a page right here from checkers and rally's this was sent to my house and i saved this one. I haven't used any of these yet. But i made is expire on july twelfth grade. Here bogo buy one gallon fifty percent off chicken bites and fries box one s. Do you have a lot in this drawer. I don't know how the rest of you guys are. How many of you if you ordered delivery and there are sauces. You just put them in your fridge on the hostile even eventually right like bachelorette soy sauce. Chick-fil-a saw billy as it regards coupons. Do you have. Like what percentage are used and not use. Do you have a lot in there that you just put away. But you know you're never probably going to ever use it. I'd say maybe two percent of the coupon saver used maybe two percents. No wonder your wife hates this. See like right here. This is when this is when the baby was born. I saw these baby things. And i said you know. I don't know what a baby needs. So i just started saving baby coupons. And that's like a you know like for diaper rash and this is johnson and johnson for babies. This expired june fifth now. I could get rid of it. But i don't know that i want to get rid of it yet now. Here's another one. Smoothie king ever heard allows three enhancers get free with a smoothie. What does that mean. i don't know. But i saved because i thought you know what maybe i'll go to smoothie king so here it is and this one doesn't have a date on it so that's that's a good coupon to have wait now expires july first. So we're gonna have a couple of days out. Look briars guys. Briers save fifty cents on any one briars product. This one also expired june fifth. So i may want to get rid of that one. He's turned off his mike a couple of times to cough here. I believe we're in double digits now because he's turned off his microphone. I don't think the ones that we can't hear should be held against them. Two percent you use and your whitey. Your wife's commentary on this is exactly what does she does. She find it in any way endearing or does she think you're strange. Oh no she thinks i'm strange. She tries to throw coupons way right away. that's why i have a secret coupon. She hasn't found yet. We're talking about it. You may go looking for them. The thing with the throwaway coupons is. I feel like i'm throwing away money like this one right here. That could out save four dollars on zertec. Have you ever bought tickets. Pretty expections one. I didn't use it expired on june six. I wasted four dollars. I basically live four dollars on. Fire that you sir tech though no no i. Didn't i love secrets raw. This one's been used as you can see. There's some cutout this burger king. I'm used to percent two percent of burger kings. All here's the thing about the burger king. The ones that are cut out. And i'll tell you why these are cut out. Because when i go to burger king i know the promo codes right. But if like my wife's going and she's a katy want anything when her out. I'm saying hey give me some burger king. She'll say yes. And i'll say you know what. Let me give you the coupon because you don't know eight nine zero four dollars. Gets you a five dollar walker meal which i need to stop saying because really going to change that code on me and i don't wanna learn. So here's another one. Dan this one's for wendy's and wendy's this expire june twenty-seventh and this is one of the ones look. This is what he got for extra savings here. This is the one that you look for when you go into public. These are the manufacturer. Coupon select briggs ample buy one. Get one free prego sauce. I didn't use it. But i could have gotten a free prego sauce by june fourth. So this probably go. Probably you look using example. One that was sent to my house. That i wasn't seeking out this is from welcome to ring a bell farms. I've never heard of ring a bell farms. But look at this. You can buy trees for sale twenty five dollars for this tree installation ten bucks so all of these things trees are on sale. I decided to save this. In case i wanted to buy some trees one day so good to have so bill you go a two of the cashiers door at burger king and tell them eight. Nine six zero while nell birkin's a different animal burger king or mcdonald's play by different rules so burger king. You gotta tell them when you're ordering. I have a coupon or they got very mad when she gets to the drive through. And you try to present them the coupon so you gotta let them know in advance. Mcdonald's don't get me started on them. They have an at their coupons Mcdonalds you could do a little bit better with coupons in the app. If i'm going to be honest with you but you tell them when you're ordering. Hey i have this coupon whatever the like. Okay perfect come use it and then you go to pay and you're like i'd like to use the coupon you didn't tell me why i told you over there. And it's like mcdonald's his whole system where different people are taking your order. And then they're the drive-thrus you need to tell thirty people. 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Arrowhead Drive - September 17, 2021

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12:34 min | Last month

Arrowhead Drive - September 17, 2021

"Support for this episode comes from picks wise picks wise is the number one home of free sports betting picks props and parlays. Their experts are trend watching did devouring sports fanatics. Who give you their playbook for each and every prediction everyone wants an edge with picks wise. You can separate yourself from the average fan download. The free picks wise app now and make your net bet. Fedor picks wise backs responsible gambling gambling. Problem call one eight hundred gamblers. Hello and welcome to your red friday episode of the arrowhead drive. i'm pete sweeney. Let's start your morning with today's outlook on the kansas city. Here's what you need to know for friday. September seventeenth yeah. I think it's just a way to good. Football teams play. There's always be a lot of highs and a lot of the game seen lombarno who says that he's had With that team You know to the top teams. See so we're at the battle every year. It seems like or in the playoffs or whatever. It is so obviously there's a lot of momentum coming throughout the week teams like this. We've all heard that thing. About rivalries right. You can't have a rivalry if it's one sided. Well isn't that exactly. What's been between the kansas city chiefs in baltimore. Ravens lamar jackson. He's uber talented a former league. Mvp but he's face. Patrick mahomes three times in his young career and has yet to win. Let's hear what ravens defensive coordinator. Wink martindale has to say about the hawks. I think when you're going against quarterback at his level which i think's a lead of stated that before you know you have to defend this is all on one play you have to defend the i play his second play sometimes his third way on that one play and i think that's what makes them so special and you know he's he's one of those guys compared to for no he and andy reid montana and walsh combination that type of relationship they had but i the the best way to put with the patrick mahomes. Whoever your favorite quarterback is and whoever is sitting there having a conversation with you and say this is my all time favorite quarterback in. This is why he's always in that conversation. So that's where. I see him at and you know i i just i think he is one of the best there is. I mean it's not a good sign when you're defensive. Coordinators favored quarterback is not you and for wink to compare pat and andy to joe montana and bill. Walsh is high high praise now for what it's worth every time he is asked about them. Mahomes shows respect for lamar jackson and the ravens. But he's been dominant over that organization in every game of his nfl tenure which he's played those ravens baltimore already seems desperate for the win after that. Stunning loss to the las. Vegas raiders on monday night football but they find themselves against the chiefs team that has been their achilles heel over the past few years and matters get worse for baltimore as chief sister getting healthier frank clark entire and at the time of this recording. They're both expected to play. Meanwhile reports thursday said that hollywood brown has been missing practice all week and the ravens will already be without. Cornerback chris west. Ry and left. Tackle ronnie stanley. Which is very interesting. When you consider who is coming to town shubert cited supersized. Obviously just just period would have been. We planted nfl but obviously the circumstances being what it was what it is. You grown up there. Grown up around that franchised. I'm i'm super excited to get out there and get back. Yeah that is the voice of orlando brown. Junior who actually replaced stanley at his beloved left tackle position last year with the ravens when stanley missed half the season due to an ankle injury now in baltimore brown isn't on the team to slide over from right tackle as he's playing. His favorable position of left tackle for the chiefs route admitted this week that he did struggle a little bit in his chiefs debut but he acknowledged he can get better. And we'll get better and expects to this week against the ravens. This week's test doesn't do him any favors going against a salad. Ravens defensive line that now features a former chief and in houston and as the chiefs. Offense goes against houston. The chiefs defense will be facing another familiar face. You know what a beautiful soul you know. Family is a great kid. He did a lot of great things for us. It was actually weird watching him. You know on the the game the other night. Just see him and watching him he actually look pretty good but proud of you know wishing him all the best with the exception of this weekend. So but It'd be good. You know just to see him and say hello to yeah. The chiefs will see the old number fourteen on sunday night except now it's in the purple and the goal is wide receiver. Sammy watkins. He was really one of the heroes of the twentieth. Nineteen playoffs and as you just heard from offensive coordinator eric. Fiemme watkins left kansas city on good terms with his coaches and teammates. And there's still plenty of love in the chiefs organization for the advanced reptilian solar being lowest app a special place in the heart of chiefs fans for that back shoulder catch over. Richard sherman in super bowl fifty four but while we wish sammy success in his future endeavors like the cheese for all probably hoping for a quiet sunday. Night from sammy watkins. Let's keep it with eric. The enemy thank. You guys know me better than this so if you reached out to me right now my answer would be. I am preparing for this team to play against baltimore ramos. And that's how you guys that. After the usc head coaching job became available. It was reported earlier this week that the enemy could be a candidate for that vacant position but as you just heard. Evey was unwilling to comment on the job at this time. That was something. He clearly reiterated when he was asked if he'd be interested in staying in the nfl or possibly moving to college to become a head football coach. You know when they disagree question. But and i say this not disrespect. You will anyone in okay. You guys normal focus driven individual. That's a question that i can answer when the seasons over at this particular moment my job is to make sure that we're ready to go and when it's all said and done with that stuff would take care of itself you know. I got a bunch of guys who count count always talked players about the importance of being account. So i can you be accountable. So someone you allow distractions to see. This is not what we're about. This is why we've had the success that we've had because we find ways to eliminate the strategies focus on the task at hand is third down so we're situation for this. That's the tacit unfocused on that. I need to make sure that we come away with a practice that we give ourselves a chance to abba chance on sunday to go out and play. While chiefs fans might selfishly. Wish the chiefs could hang onto the enemy forever at some point. This man has to get an opportunity as an nfl head coach. This is a guy who should have gotten a job yesterday and the day before that and the day before that come on. Nfl apple everybody. That's on that. Football guys make plays everywhere this last week. Traveling read made the place. But i'm sure throughout the entire season and we've seen in our our passing gosling mccoll hardiman demarcus robbins biron single. That can make big way any any moments as we all know. The chiefs heavily leaned on their superstars. Travis kelsey and tyreek hill in their week. One victory over the cleveland browns. But fans are eager to see if a supplemental weapon will step up. We've mentioned miko hartman on these airwaves. But he was very quiet against the browns however it is worth noting that in the jets. Two games against the ravens. He has six catches for one hundred. Seventy eight yards and two touchdowns but homes has managed to find hardman four explosive touchdowns in back to back matchups against the ravens. And just so you know. This is a mccall hardman stat disguised as fantasy advice. Get him in your lineups. Oh well it was hopeful A really hopeful that obviously could possibly get cleared You know before the in the week a practice I think it'd be tough on anybody to kind of not practice for ten days and then Try to go out there and play a game that that you gotta win at home so I thought coach read training. Staff thought everybody Really made the best decision for me. You know the player and So that was much appreciated much respected but never very happy to be back. We told you at the top because it was that important. The honey badger is in line to make his return this week. Chiefs missed their defensive general tire. Matthew last week against the browns did look to be some miscommunication and some sloppiness in the secondary. The chiefs have been complimentary this week of the job. One thornhill did including matthew himself. Well i thought we try to hold ourselves to high standard you know the dv role and You know. I probably thought he didn't start the game. He wanted how we wanted him to But you know you put his head down man You know he came to the sideline. he took the coaching And that's all you can really expo young player to take the coaching. Try to learn from it and then go back out there and make a player to and now he made some big plays. You're going that gang you know. I'm pretty sure it's helping this confidence as go forward to still. We know the chiefs are a better team when the badger is on the field just like he will be on sunday night. You know what. I think that would be hard to measure. And i think even if i talked to each of them individually it would still be hard to measure because really some players are really forthcoming. About what a game as to them and others just kind of give you the normal yards and the other game or yeah this game means a lot or whatever but you you lay out three really compelling reasons that each of these guys would have you know that sort of let me show you kind of adages i you know i think i think i think it might be orlando. I do if i had to sit back. Go all right i. I wanted the the one of those players that really has the most approved might be him and so that you know i think sammy. Watkins doesn't have a ton to prove anymore. Neither does houston. So that's probably the direction i would go. We were pleased to be joined by nbc. Sports is michele tafoya the sideline reporter for sunday's chiefs and ravens game at seven twenty pm. Arrowhead time catch the full interview with michelle and myself on the arrowhead. Pride interview series. As you heard she thinks it's a big game for orlando brown and we hope it is right here on the arrowhead drive for red friday september seventeenth. If you enjoy the arrowhead drive. Please subscribe to the arrowhead pry podcast network. And while you're there leave us a rating and review stay tuned later today for the game. That is sweeping the nation. You know what. I'm talking about certified or imposter on show and be a on the chiefs. They will also have your sunday night. Football game review as for now. That's a wrap. i'm pete sweeney. Catch you on monday for the post. Game edition of the arrowhead drive. This episode was sponsored by picks wise picks wise is the number one app of free sports. Betting picks find expert picks for every sport every day. Loaded with the best bets props and parlays. You can find in-depth game predictions giving you the who. How and why behind every prediction all for free. 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Stories Philippines Podcast

12:48 min | 1 year ago

PANAGINIP - TAGALOG HORROR FICTION STORIES | MGA KWENTONG MULTO

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SA DAKO PA ROON PART 1- MGA KWENTO SA WAG LANG DI MAKARAOS | TAGALOG ONE-SHOT FICTIONS

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13:25 min | 1 year ago

SA DAKO PA ROON PART 1- MGA KWENTO SA WAG LANG DI MAKARAOS | TAGALOG ONE-SHOT FICTIONS

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A Talk with a Meme Creator Ft. Be Like Sagala | Movie Herald Podcast

Movie Herald Tamil Podcasts

33:20 min | 8 months ago

A Talk with a Meme Creator Ft. Be Like Sagala | Movie Herald Podcast

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Friday, August 13, 2021

NBC Nightly News

21:34 min | 2 months ago

Friday, August 13, 2021

"University of maryland global campus has more than twenty years experience providing online education to military service members and working adults offering low tuition no cost digital materials. In place of most textbooks scholarships for those who qualify and more. Learn more at you. Mdc dot edu slash podcast. That's um g see that eighty slash podcast tonight. The first us marine. It's arriving in kabul in the race to evacuate americans. Us embassy personnel being told to destroy documents and equipment as afghanistan crumbles to chaos the taliban rapidly closing in now said that control two-thirds of the country most of the three thousand additional us troops expected to arrive by the end of the weekend. Our team is there. Also breaking the cdc officially recommending third kovin vaccine dose for immuno-compromised americans when they'll start going into arms at comes as the delta variant overwhelmed hospitals and i see us and the legal battles over masks in schools has one board meeting spirals into a shouting match homeland. Security is new national terrorism bulletin the threat of violence leading up to the twentieth anniversary of nine. Eleven news on new york governor andrew. Cuomo what is now happening with the impeachment. Probe now that he's stepping down. Tropical storm warnings. Up in florida as fred takes. Aim and seventy eight million under a brutal heat wave and the dire record july. The hottest month ever murder hornets are back. Where the i live. One was spotted in the us this year and music legend. Tony bennett his farewell to the stage. This is nbc. nightly news. with lester holt. Good evening everyone. In america that became weary of war. Is tonight witnessing from afar. The raw and ugly reality of what the us has left behind in the wake of which withdrawal from afghanistan a vacuum filled by a resurgent taliban its fighters of now ensnared the country's most important cities except the capital of kabul grabbing territory now a high profile afghan commander the speed of the militant advance adding urgency to efforts to put thousands of american boots back on the ground to oversee the departure of. Us embassy staffers nbc's kelly. Kobe remains in kabul tonight and starts our coverage tonight. The taliban is firmly in control of afghanistan's second largest city canada heart to militants consolidating their territory in the south and north and the west where he sees the historic city of herod's and it's famed military commander mohammad ismael khan this taliban propaganda video cod who fought the taliban in two thousand one says he hopes the militants will bring peace security and stability the fast taliban takeover has shocked the world. The militant group took its first provincial capital. One week ago today now their territory looks like this closing in on kabul the pentagon now scrambling to send three thousand troops to the kabul airport most arriving by the end of this weekend a temporary mission to get embassy staff out safely the deteriorating conditions are a factor a big factor in why the president has approved this mission as the us embassies ordering staff to destroy sensitive documents and computers according to a memo obtained by npr panicked afghans are rushing to the capital with aid agencies warning of a humanitarian crisis house. This man's house was bombed completely detroit. Destroy future these men all worked for. Nato as construction workers cooks interpreters. We've for more than six year on the front line. Many here feel abandoned and betrayed fowzia. Koufi is a women's rights activist and envoy to taliban peace talks and but she survived two assassination attempts given the situation right. Now how do you see the future for women in afghanistan. everyone i've spoken to about this gets emotional everyone collarbone not afraid of the world superpowers. They're not afraid of the beef fifty six or fifty two. They're afraid of the woman and kelly good heavy with us. Those taliban advances are getting closer and closer to kabul. How much pressure does a capital appear to be under nbc. News is confirmed. That half of afghanistan's thirty four provincial capitals are under taliban control and there are reports of heavy fighting on kabul's doorstep in logar province just fifty miles away lester. Kelly continue to stay safe. The stunning advance of the taliban has the president under pressure to do more to stop it. Peter alexander as that president buying tonight publicly silent about the talibans accelerating takeover of afghanistan privately consulting with the secretaries of state and defense as well as his national security adviser the rapidly deteriorating situation following the president's decision to withdraw. us troops for a war. He believes his lasted too long and cost too. Many lives sparking fierce criticism. Well it's a disgrace and it's a national humiliation. Didn't have to be this way. The president's aids today standing by his comments from just seventy two hours ago. We're going to continue to keep our commitment. But i do not regret my decision but now many. You're questioning the execution of that plan. He owns this now completely. It isn't donald. Trump's afghan policies. Still by the rush to remove americans now. Drawing comparisons to the chaotic evacuation from vietnam. More than forty five years ago. Despite the president's promise otherwise there's gonna be no circumstance where you see. People being lifted off the roof of a embassy of the united states from afghanistan still for those who served and sacrificed disbelief and sadness. I'm really upset angry with with what's going on right now. Retired army ranger. Tom memento served two tours there and lost one of his close friends. Why did we spend the past decade. There what what was the purpose. What was the goal haunting. Questions is america's longest war abruptly ends peter alexander. Nbc news unraveling security situation in. Afghanistan is particularly painful for those who have worked for women's rights in that country including an american mother who calls kabul her second home. Do they have the passport yet. Kim motley is fighting for the future of many afghans. Some sixty seven hundred miles away. I think it's what's having afghanistan is humanitarian nuclear bomb and we helped light that match. But we don't have to leave. We don't have to abandon afghanistan. Motley is a mom and an american lawyer who has lived and worked in afghanistan on and off since two thousand and eight. You've spent thirteen years going in and out of afghanistan for you. This has to be somewhat personal. It's extremely i know these people. Yes i know. These people and i feel a great responsibility to afghanistan. We i met kim motley in kabul back in two thousand ten where she was working as a lawyer navigating the complex afghan justice system defending foreigners accused of crimes. She spending her days now on the phone trying to help. Afghans flea. I've been in contact with with many. Afghans are terrified of people who can't get out right now. What are they doing hiding. I'm thinking a lot of people are hiding. I think There's a lot of men growing their beards out. I think there's a lot of burqas being bought. I think there's a lot of books being burned. And it's the plight of women in afghanistan that troubles motley the most. They're physically turning girls into slaves right now. They're closing girls. Schools with the taliban is doing right now is way worse than we. I went in twenty years ago. Would you say to those who say we could spend another twenty years another forty years but once we leave the stack. Same thing would happen. Twenty years is not necessarily enough to stabilize the country but it was really on a good path. It really was turning a corner. I don't understand why now because we have to leave because we said so. That's why we're lead because we said so it's a huge it's against human rights can model. You've asked to one day return to afghanistan. You heard her talk about the threat to women and for more on that. I want to bring in chief. Foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell entry. What are you hearing lesser the. Us withdrawal is fast becoming a nightmare for afghan women and girls. We're getting reports that. The taliban is targeting them at alarming rates kidnapping and raping taking girls as child brides. They're being targeted for doing what the us encourage them to do for the last twenty years get an education. Find jobs often in defiance of their fathers and village elders state department spokesman. Ned price told me today. The answer is not to relocate everyone who faces danger but as he was speaking of colleague was getting desperate pleas emails from girls begging to be saved from what they say is a humanitarian disaster. Last year andrea thank. You may just sixty seconds. What could be a game changer. For millions of americans trying to protect themselves against cova when simplisafe home security's founders chat and eleanor lawrence designed their first security system in their kitchen. They dated for a very personal reason. Their friends had just had their home broken into. They were struggling to find a security system. That was simple to set up. And what make them feel safe again. Making people feel safe. It's what simplisafe has been doing. Ever since that moment. Fifteen years ago a passion to protect people not only drives every engineering detail in its products. But it motivates every interaction with its customers simply safe has highly trained security experts. Ready whenever you need them whether that's during a fire a burglary a medical emergency or even just when you're setting up the system there's always someone there who has your back to keep you safe and make sure you feel safe as my listener. You can save twenty percent on your simply safe security system and get your first month free when you sign up for interactive monitoring service just visit simplisafe dot com slash nightly. Because the monster system and start protecting your home and family today again that simplisafe dot com slash nightly. The cdc has cleared the way for a third cova vaccine dose for those with compromised immune systems. It comes as one hundred forty. Three thousand new cases were reported and more than one thousand deaths in a single day for the first time since late april according to an nbc news. Count still only about half are fully vaccinated our national correspondent. Miguel almaguer has more as early as tonight. A third shot could start going into the arms of some of the seven million americans who are immuno-compromised the cdc director giving the sign off late today. Nationwide less than three percent of all americans qualify but for those with weakened immune systems like certain cancer patients organ transplant recipients and those with severe immune deficiencies a third dose could be a lifesaver about ensuring our most vulnerable. Who mamie them. Additional does to enhance their biological responses. Because the immuno-compromised may not get the same level of protection from two doses of pfizer or madonna. They would be eligible for a third dose of either vaccine. Though it's recommended they stay with the same manufacturer. There was no decision for those given. Johnson and johnson. Because there's not enough data the cdc pointing to studies that show forty percent of hospitalized. Breakthrough cases involve those with weak immune systems. But the agency is not calling the third dose a booster very clear in the city-state labeling. This third dose as appropriate because the first two doses were not adequate enough to get the full potential of immunity very different from a booster dose as hospitals face a crushing wave of kobe cases. Experts say boosters for the fully vaccinated are likely a matter of when not if in louisiana critical care nurse and cancer patient. Mary lombarno went from saving lives to nearly losing her own. After becoming in fact did you to end up the stairs who've been in my whole life take freedom for granted tonight a shot to protect the vulnerable as the risk rises for all miguel almaguer. Nbc new. i'm morgan chessy tracking different frontline in the covert fight in tennessee. Angry parents taking on schools over mass mandates about as the safety measures for classrooms. Play out in courtrooms. This is going to be heard on expedited emergency basis in texas and florida. Because i go get cove it back to actually in school and neither will where mass in one florida school district. More than four hundred students are in quarantine after at least thirty tested positive. The superintendent says the district just implemented a mask policy. Despite the governor's threat to withhold certain administrators salaries. We believe that the price of a human life and the price of the salary check. they're not equivalent in any way shape or form and california where the state supports masking in schools. A superintendent says one of our teachers ended up in a hospital after a parent attacked during an argument over masks. And we just don't know from day to day or what is going to happen. Net schools and families now caught in the middle education. Our sons vice unacceptable morgan chessy. Nbc news a new terror alert has been issued by homeland security. Tonight pete. williams is here. Pete what do we know about this. Well just says this. New terrorism advisory is not based on any. Actual threats are plots. But it says there's a rise in anti-government rhetoric. Some of it is opposition to call the public health rules. Like mask and vaccine measures some calls for violent action or based on claims of election fraud or a belief that donald trump can be reinstated and says the coming twentieth anniversary of the nine eleven attacks and religious holidays later. This year could be catalysts for violence. The last terror advisory was issued in may at expired. Today this new one says domestic extremism remains a threat priority. Lester all right p. Thank you three days. After new york governor andrew cuomo announced his resignation over sexual harassment allegations state assembly leader said they will suspend their investigation. They concluded they did not have the authority to impeach cuomo once he leaves office now to our series justice for all the dramatic move today by a prosecutor known for trying to right the wrong of the criminal justice system in philadelphia today. A first district. Attorney larry crasner announcing charges against three former homicide detectives and the charges in this case relate directly to words that they stated things that they said in and out of court the charges multiple counts of perjury. Which is a third degree. Felony stemmed from the 2016 retrial of anthony wright a man who spent nearly twenty five years in prison wrongfully convicted for a nineteen ninety-one rape and murder. Eventually mr rights innocence was proven by dna evidence that also identified the actual perpetrator of the crime. Among the three detectives charged. It was martin devlin who claim to have taken verbatim dictation of anthony wright's confession but rights attorney. Amelia million green says. That's a lie. She filed a civil lawsuit that led to a deposition with devlin and at that deposition. We put his story to the test. Ready devlin as another detective read. Wright's confession devlin was asked to transcribe it. Just as he said happened in the interrogation room. It's just way too fast. He could barely keep up. He couldn't keep pace at all and at a certain point he just gave up. It just corroborates that the confession was completely fabricated philadelphia. Prosecutors agree and say all three former detectives charged today lied under oath about the case including in devlin's testimony during that deposition a lawyer for devlin telugu nbc news. Mardi devlin spent fifty years of his life fighting for justice for victims of crime. And that these good men are innocent of all charges. Detective devlin work several other cases. Where false statements and innocent people to prison. You can see more about this. I'll be there for a special dateline at ten eastern tonight up next new uncertainty about travel out to protect your trip back now with two weather. Threats were watching. Dylan dryer is tracking all dylan. What's the latest. Get anything less than lots to get to. Let's start with the tropics tropical depression. Fred likely will strengthen back into a tropical storm as it moves to the west of florida bringing up to ten inches of rain. Also wanna point out potential tropical cyclone number seven. This has the potential to be stronger than fred and also looks like. it's going to take the same path. So that's why we are going to focus on that one. Also want to point out that july twenty twenty one officially the hottest month on record on earth and we still have heat advisories in effect on the west coast and east coast although the east will start to cool down going into the weekend last. Doing thank you. Those giants so-called murder hornets are back this week. Someone in northwest washington. State's by the i live murder hornet in the us this year. The invasive pests are known to attack honeybees and other insects. There's growing outrage after the humane society says a beloved lion name. Oh pain was lured from its national park in zimbabwe and killed by a trophy hunter who may be american. It comes six years after see so. The lion was killed near the same park by an american dentist here at home. Just as summer travel was bouncing back there are signs that delta variant is slowing it. Down again tom costello now with the price you pay. It may be the travel season wind down the covert surge or bone but the tse is starting to screen fewer airline passengers on tuesday the lowest checkpoint volume since mid june meanwhile with the delta variance spreading fast hopper dot com reports less interest in international travel more interest and us destinations and a thirty three percent increase in passengers booking fully flexible tickets. A lot of people can't get back sonate children so for families. There's a lot of different calculations you have to take when leaving home and a lot of people simply aren't comfortable with that wrist with cove which still upending trouble plans more. Americans are now buying travel insurance. Insure my trip reports. A twenty percent increase in cancel for any reason insurance which would include kovic however time-sensitive benefit. Meaning you have to purchase it within fourteen days of your first dollar deposit on your trip. In order to be eligible for that benefit. Travel insurance is usually best for big non-refundable items certain hotels and excursions. Some cruise lines and countries now require it what. The insurance is expensive. Averaging two hundred fifty dollars for a partial reimbursement instead experts advise making refundable reservations. Whenever possible. lester. All right tom castillo. Thanks music. legend. Tony bennett. Is retiring from performing. On doctor's orders his son says last week bennett appeared with lady gaga radio city music hall for what may have been his final time on stage. The ninety five year old was diagnosed with alzheimer's twenty sixteen. We wish telling you all the best. That's nightly news for this friday. Thank you for watching everyone on. Lester holt take care of yourself at each other in the wake of the nine eleven attacks. Hundreds of people recorded their stories. That building was bleeding into the sky at cried out to jesus and i asked him to just help me twenty years later the same voices return. Time doesn't kill. It doesn't fix things but time makes the trauma less sharp memory box. Echoes of nine eleven. A feature documentary. Wednesday september eight ten pm eastern on msnbc and streaming exclusively on peacock.

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En Tijuana Hay Rock Podcast: Playlist - Programa #34: Entrevista con Monsalve

EN TIJUANA HAY ROCK RADIO

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En Tijuana Hay Rock Podcast: Playlist - Programa #34: Entrevista con Monsalve

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Local Hour: Navel-Gazing

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

51:54 min | 4 months ago

Local Hour: Navel-Gazing

"This episode is brought to you by the nba. From the squeak of shoes on the hardwood to the tips of their fingers. It's mesmerizing dance of jaw-dropping downs heartbreaking blocks and mind-blowing steals. It's the most fantastic athletes in the world. Who make your heart beat out of your chest and make you want to jump into the screen and be right on the court with them. That's the nba. That's game don't miss the nba playoffs going on now. Now is a when he's he's the glue when we springing Who is a mess and sounded worst seats. Pirate radio with the scipion crew. We got wind in our sails in the sky is blue. There's a devil lombarno so much work to do for the pirates radio. Happy greg cody tuesday. He is radiant. He's getting so many clicks at the miami herald to his podcast is climbing up the charts. Because it's one of the few places where you can get access to the stuff that you missed during the twenty four hour special. His eiser dilated. But i want to start. And i'm not gonna hammer today. I am not. I promise you i will not yamen today. I was sort of broken by the last. I dunno thirteen. Fourteen months and i've been crazed last couple of days and so i have spent the last couple of days basically apologizing to everyone. I went to mike's grave. And i apologized yesterday for yesterday's show specifically. I apologize to his grieving wife. Cynthia about killing him. I went to billy's hospital bed. I don't i like. I don't know if it was last rights they were doing but it felt sambre in there and i apologize to him for yesterday's show as well even went to my wife's belly apologized to my future baby for in the news of your second child Maybe with that terrible show. That i did yesterday and i apologize to the audience. I just what i should have said. I'm really grateful for everything that happened. And i should have just left it at some form of that but the last few the last year's just been unbearably hard and so it all leaked out this weekend in an emotional mess. That did not make me very good yesterday and did not allow me to share the space. I hope by age better than that. And i apologize to all of you for being not myself here. Recently i apologize to the shipping container. I will never apologize to stu. Gods he's gotten to rich he understands the deal. Thanks accepted the mets. I think stu gods and this happened so often around here stugatz with the most basic of analysis. Just sort of undercuts everything. We were arguing about tyler. Herro around here for james harden for months and stugotz what you guys talking about you just trade for him. You guys are idiots. All year has been saying. Yeah dan tell me about the nets defense more. Yeah i mean listen you guys try to make this stuff. So complex okay. They have the three beth. Three the top five players in the nba. They're so good they don't even need james hardie. Oh and they play defense. Oh they'll never be able to play defense here. They are playing defense. I mean enough already stopped taking so much. Not good for you did i mean. It certainly hasn't been over the last twelve months for sure. What is it this is. We're doing this all for the first time you'll get some of this video we're still gonna figure out the pieces of how it is to give this to you live and how it is to give it to you in different places. Draft king's is gonna you know. I'm guessing help us. Put it on radio stations and everything else but the growth. You'll see it happen over the next few months and years really. That's part the deal that we're making but just so you understand. This whole weekend was a bit of a finish line for me on a number of different fronts to news papering as a profession. Never thinking that any of this could be possible. It was a it was a finish line. So there's that and now we start a new. And i wish i had just covered this this way yesterday where we sort of just shared and enjoyed and the things that happened this weekend instead of like not being myself yam ring. Do you have any. Do you guys have any sound of mean talking so much that i just never finished any of my point like i just never got to anything i actually wanted to say. That would be like the first hour or two of yesterday. Show perhaps the first three hours of the maratha thank after the first hour. I did look up and say we should do that over. Didn't i which is not something i do. I don't think i've ever done that before an hour in. I think i don't know when it was. But i did look up and say should we do that over. We definitely did have a conversation that was. Hey let's you know let's share the ball a little bit. I don't think i've ever said after an hour. Let's do that and i can tell you. What was it doing it over an hour. That's part of the already taken. The heat of that on the side of his face for a long time so we will talk about the nets and julio jones like what is what is that team going. Look like i never know right. Because antonio brown was great when he was the only guy and then he goes to tampa is good enough and he's going to be a weapon and he'd been out of the sport for a while but he certainly wasn't what he was in pittsburgh. So when you have to share the ball in that sport what do you do on that team. Because julio jones gets there and he is their number one receiver immediately. I don't even understand. I really don't greg. I don't understand this sport in that. I don't understand how. Julio jones every team in the league is throwing a first round. Pick at that right. Yeah they got cheap. I thought for what a second third or second in the fourth. I think it was. There was a report from diana rossini that a first rampage was on the table. They withdrew the team. Who made that offer withdrew the offer. Because they did not want to include a current player on their roster so they have to elite receivers now and and arguably the best running back in the league and ryan tannehill win. They got julio jones his. Mvp odds went from like fifty to one to fifteen to one overnight. It's the kind of moves to god's. And then i don't get this so you tell me what other teams make sense because if tennessee is willing to do it they have a number one so now you can't tell me other teams that don't want him while they there said at that position. They don't need julio jones. It's julio jones. And i think some of the math that has to be done here on any of this throughout the league is not. Can i get better. Can i get better than the chiefs right now. They beat the chiefs right. The titans they'd be just over the decade right. Can i get better than the chiefs for the next decade. Because i'm never going to be better than them at the quarterback position and his right like you know the the titans did beat the chiefs. But it's like you have to go into the game entering thinking that you can beat the cheese whereas you can pull off a shock upset like the titans need to get to a level where they're they're i honestly hadn't viewed that trade. Through that prism. I've been through the prism of s- thirty-three-year-old julio jones really the difference here. Because wow wait on a team that runs the ball wide derrick henry. That's what they do now. I think the measurement stick in that sport is now the chiefs that that's where everyone has to get and the way to get there is make yourself more and more overwhelming because we're aware of what kind of overwhelming they are. The titans are close. We know that anything can happen in the playoffs. Couple of different bounces. We know the titans are close. Injuries can short circuit everything. I don't know of. Julio jones can stay healthy. I'm simply saying to you. It's julio jones. i'm. I'm legit confused. Why every team in the league. The thinks it's this far away from the chiefs isn't saying on its offense. I want to add julio jones. I believe it's the contract right. That's what the falcons wanted. They wanted other teams to pay Most of if not all of that contract. And i think a lot of teams were put off by that. I will say to you again. Maybe i'm wrong on this. Because i maybe you can get me a football person who can explain this portion of it to me. I know it's been been injured. And i know i. I know that he's older and expensive. I i also know that. Michael irvin looks at that gift and says it's the best i've ever seen in that sport. Like just looks at all of it not that. He's the best receiver. But it's the most unstoppable thing in the sport and to and to me. I'd be willing to give up a second in a player. I'd be willing to give up the first round pick. Who is a maybe who might be good and cheap for a while for the specifics of that. If you're telling me any offense is one piece away that feels like the piece that that you take that gamble on right the only slightly perilous in that. Julio jones did only play nine games last year. And how sustainable do we think the derrick henry thing is and like. I know that we've kind of said it for a couple years now. But that's a shitload carries it. That guy's head over the course it. What is it like four hundred m last night. He had three hundred and eighty attempts last year. That's a ton that has done that over the last two years. Not since ricky. Has someone been run like that. Not what not since one set was doing it to ricky. You're absolutely there is a window that you can win with that playing that way. How many running backs you want to name them. All shaun alexander through bunch of guys who come in for a couple of years and run rugged rugged style and then can't do it anymore. That's one of the reasons in marshawn lynch was such a crazy operation because it guys can't sustain that for that long. Three hundred is a ton of carries and with an added game this year. Derrick henry could have four hundred carries. He will break down but tennessee good enough and close enough where they need their windows like what three years. That's why i don't think they're that. Worried about julio jones age Because it's a three year window right now. They're looking at three years to overtake to somehow. Overtake kansas city. Six hundred and eighty one carries for henry over the last two years. Which is crazy. So if you're getting him. Greg julio jones you have to commit to throwing the ball a lot more you have to number one wide receivers on your team right. And that's going away from what you've done to make your team this good. Which is derrick henry. And and the way it works is that because of that life is easier for derrick henry. The hold for him. Get that much bigger when i think this really does more than anything puts expectations on ryan tannehill. And that is the thing that i think. We all have to sit back and be like like. He was good when he didn't have much ex but now that they have. Julio people are going to be looking at that like that team needs to go further than it did. Last year his life is also made easier by the derrick. Henry thing guys mentioned his regular season carries numbers. What six seventy eight you said. Yeah tack on one hundred and one more in the playoffs. So he's basically at eight hundred carries the last two seasons. This is a wild over-simplification because it's a team sport and a lot of things go into it and you saw what mahomes looked like the first time you've ever seen him look like that when he didn't have any of his offensive lineman but the chiefs have an injury. Change all of the math on all of these things but the chiefs have rectified. What was their issue. And i think everyone listening to this. No matter what you think of the variations in football kind of feels like if the chiefs stay healthy at quarterback. The chiefs are going to be the thing to beat for a decade. And if that's the case if that's the standard in a competitive sport in your league again over-simplification but can you do better than mahomes kelsey and hill with your quarterback being worse than mahomes. You gotta go like it's an oversimplification but how overwhelming in the offensive age can you make your offense and julio jones is the kind of player that helps you there the competition. Ten hell's going to be only so good but look at how good he was with the dolphins when he didn't have any of this and now look what happens when you put derrick henry and you put a wide receiver set. That is a bit overwhelming now. Right for the next decade though i would say chiefs are box right. Yeah don't do it death here about you. This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when you're printers running low and sends you new cartridges. So you never have to think about amc. Save up to fifty percent. You'll pay less than five dollars a month for inc and never run out again. Find out if your printer is eligible and enroll today at hp instant inc dot com conditions apply for details visit hp dot com slash. Instant inc. spotify. Would it's done you if i tell you that. The tennessee titans outscored the kansas city. Chiefs left here. Yeah they were great they were they were. Greg still stuns me. Yes how they have a fairly high bar and they just added julio jones. So i mean they i. I was listening to really interesting conversation than a bill. Simmons and ryan russillo having about The portland trailblazers. How the solution to their team might not be finding defense but just finding more players that can score. It does seem like in sports right now. It's just grab as much offense which getting back to the brooklyn nets. Point is just get as much offense. And i wonder if the nfl's kind of moving in this direction just get all of the players. If what you see happening there needs to be a next evolution. You've seen in baseball. You get the shift and all that stuff and home runs or nothing. You've seen in football of the changes that have been made so that the games aren't nine six like you don't. When's the last time you saw one of those steeler raven games. I like those games though. I miss i understand but offensive battle. Yes yes but the thing the next inefficiency might be to be exploited and then the next the nets might be the example of this all of a sudden being so overwhelming offensively that they render defense irrelevant because they'd have the single worst defense to ever by miles to ever win a championship. If they could just out offense everybody. But chris point is an interesting one because it the next inefficiency to exploit. Is that all these leagues will keep changing the rules to make sure to protect the offense because we want the offense and if you've seen bare naked greed during a pandemic. how much greed is they're going to be in market in the fact that the league. It's it's salary cap league. Every everything is random playoffs or random injuries. A random forty niners or a bounce away then. Everyone gets hurt and they're not good anymore. What can we do help. The offenses make the offense is more overwhelming. Everybody likes offense accepts. Do god's still craving the nine six game. i love that games. The one i if you feel goals it's you don't miss those days defensive struggle. Coal weather's some snow steelers ravens. Afc north last six field goals stugatz six field goals. Five of them into the wind. Look not gonna make it all the way. Gimme six field goals and three missed field. That is football. I mean nothing more exciting than a missed field goal. I put it on the poll. Please chris cody. Is there anything more exciting than a missed field goal and also put on the paul and this all one word. Do you miss steelers ravens. That is football. Six field goals three missed field goals while a of all of that get frozen tundra. Throw that in there somewhere off the craving it but the league's unfortunately are just legislating. It right out of the game. Because if they if they kept producing that game the person who would be. There's to god's by himself as many claiming that that's kind of football he likes me. Okay okay greg. Yeah i'm good. We gotta keep the show moving now around it. It's happening so often. He doesn't know where his cough button is a button. But i forgot until i was mid cough. I forgot my inhaler today. So it's going to be a rocky ride and once you make off. i mean forget it. You get stagnant. You can't stop all right so just going to be here and i say we just. We don't even acknowledge it. The rest of the way like i just say just if he's coughing do it right into the microphone. Okay so everyone can experience what what don't even move away just if you have illinois now but don't even more. Did we do any good in terms of interrupting or not interrupting the kind of the way but we all worried about always wins though him aunts. To god's it's part of the beauty of the environment one of the things that always happens around here is the mistake so winningham you yesterday put together. A bunch of people are looking for all this stuff because they can't find it youtube. We can't download even if we wanted to. It's just too big a file. Twenty four straight hours and we can't do it yet and you're searching the internet for little pieces of what it is that you mess because rare is something. This kind of sticky. Where this jalopy is in the sky and it's just belching mistakes all of the place and you can laugh at everything because we don't know what we're doing and did saturday as was insane. I'm k- i'm not kidding you when i say. I'm not joking when i tell you that. What was replaced in the headsets of mike ryan and this is why we killed him. It was worth it but this is why he's now dead. What was in the head set of mike ryan that day and cape fagin had that headset on for three seconds yanked it off as it for years have been stung by bees and then lightning and forgot as a professional speaker to not dead air just stared at us and through the headsets off. Wittingham paid professional. He's pretty competent and composed. It looked like his eyebrows. Were singed one time when he tried to talk. The headsets. what was in. That headset was disney. What used to be disney media pro washington all of those entities. The three of them had teams disney media. Pro washington was in his ear at the same time for twenty four straight hours and we went from not doing the show at all. It's always taped not doing the show in any way live no breaks nothing so of course they were going to be mistakes and of course we're going to sink into them and of course people love this show. We're never gonna turn away. So what is some of the sound. You wanted to get to because people are climbing all over themselves to get to cody's podcast because that's where you'll find one hour deconstructed of the four. Am belly button extravaganza. What do you wanna tell people about your podcast. What they can get there and what it is that you discussed today. Yeah people have been flooding to it. It's it's my most downloaded podcast. In like six months we had a lot of fun. I cold called my life at four fifteen and she was about as angry as sharp style. Shannon sharpe style We have a belly button. Dr which was very revealing and we on a psychic. It was it was a lot of fun it was. I was asleep through the whole thing but it seemed fun. What did the doctor have to say about your belly button. Can you share a little bit of that. You're i'll give it all away. Yeah we'll you know what was the medical term. He used the cough and no actually herniated wasn't it was a abdominal wall herniation. Or you know it was like an umbilical hernia. Like from your. I'm boga corey. Yes so i blame my late mother because I think it was a difficult birth. I don't know whether that Factors in chris. Put it on the poll. Please do you blame your late. Mother i do but is it your late mother or the doctor who's responsible the nurse for cutting that umbilical you know that could be true. Yeah yeah i have a point. He had Because i was a tough birth but apparently years later. I'm still suffering this umbilical issue but the doctor Thank god it's mostly. It's just a cosmetic issue. It's nothing. I have to have surgically removed earning like that. At least that's what he said over zoom there. There were a number. There were a number of things. Visually that made me laugh about that entire hour but one only one made me laugh more. Then how lo fi nineteen eighties infomercial. This isn't a real doctor that video felt and and so it and and it felt like he was broadcasting from a living room. That had paneling on the wall. You know it felt from another time. That was one kind of funny. But the funniest thing to me and that entire hour was. I'm looking at the clock. Okay it's a show four to five. Am and it says. Four zero one and nineteen and greg cody is fiddling around with his head on his head like super super visibly exhausted and maybe delirious and he actually says out loud into the microphone. He's a minute and twelve seconds into our has. I'm so tired talking to anybody in particular. I think he'd misplaced his papers to read or Somebody horizon verizon. Nobody builds five g. g was four. Am yet every excuse to be tired but then he starts doing podcasts. Bit about how. His eyelids are being held open with toothpicks. And then it's like dad. Were on youtube. Everyone can see that. You're just doing your mind. Greg later the mind that's right. Where did you guys get that doctor. Because i'm telling you. I want to see in mental arc. Media's when i when i have to look over what caused i wanna i wanna i wanna see number next of fake doctor because it felt like you were paying an actor doctor who would be funny because he looks so cheap to it into the mike. Don't make me laugh. That's the problem with this show for an hour. And i can we get aboard back there. That counts up the number of times he lives and the number of times he coughs from laughing and see if we could separate those two. That's the problem with this show. Or that's the problem with your health to that too but listen the podcast got off to a rocky start and i don't wanna throw anybody under the bus like a male hasn't carpet. Oh wow they were very slow. Getting out of that am i right. The christopher referred to it as a a line change. That didn't go. well i'm in here it's four am. I'm looking to lean into a mike and start my podcast. zack cooper. still picking up his coffee. Amine is still over there. Christopher am i wrong. I mean you were incredibly slow getting in there. I mean there was a line change but it was fifty fifty at the very best for you. England's defense i mean you know he can be kind of a ball hog right. Thank you man. There's my daughter doesn't podcast on the show. Exactly wow it's a podcast whereas review movies rated less than forty percent on rotten tomatoes and ascertain whether properly rated or didn't get a fair shake. That's right. i thought that was sinophile. No no that's adnan's totally different thing. It's gonna be fun to grow. Both of those podcasts out. Because one of them's about good movies one of them's about bad movies. One of them's about really the comedy around bad movies. Admins taking chris. You are helping. Adnan with this podcast. Two of the things that happened. I noticed i've been talking to adnan about this right about the specifics of he is such a kind and likable person. So very kind. but he is a positively. You're like when he starts talking. There is no getting a lasso on him. He's got so much information but it is rat a tat tat speed bag in your face. Unstoppably likable until you don't like it and turn away because it's coming at you too much and that's why it's called him for stupidity. We don't have a more long winded guests around here. He'd even tell you himself he fills time. I mean that's what. I need to use some time filling. Yeah time too nice to nice about it. Like no one's going to dislike adnan. We've got. We've got a mold adnan to somebody who's going to give a strong opinion. Did you see what he did to me. Actually did to me at some point during that insanity. I'm coming on zoom sitting down right before we're starting. I don't know what they're doing. I don't remember where it was. An ad says to me in the middle of what he's doing on his show. I don't remember why i'm sitting down. Hey dan on hemingway. I found the subject of androgynous fascinating. Can you tell us what you thought. No adnan tell me what the hell you thought. You don't have any opinions here do you. You don't have a single opinion. You want you want me to throw it give you opinion on drudge. And he so you can steal it and then have that opinion like to move. You can't do that. what is that. We are working on some bits to make adnan a little meaner where he just rips people. You look at see. This is to got to the secret genius. Man they credit for that christopher. That's going to start charging you like consulting fees because adnan is two nights and he amherst too long too nice someone tell him. I think he just did across. But that's part of producing seriously adnan is exceptional at. This is so so damn interesting so good so damn interesting. He knows so much and he wants to tell it to you all at the same time. I got a harness. It it's it's a. It's a power what he has inside there but it needs to be nurtured. Is that and the kind of guy who will take coaching. because i don't s yes. God he's dying for it. That's it's weird to me that he could become that good without having really had it like. That doesn't make any sense to me. Well as a tv genius. I think that's what it is. He starts to do tv. And it's like this is a podcasts. Different slow down a little bit. I feel like that's what it is. I think when we were at espn people would say the hardest show to host was baseball tonight and the best that doing it was adnan. Virk like it's just. He is such a tv pro man. It's crazy. I can't. I think that's where you will help him as a producer chris. Because you're absolutely right about that distinction. I remember telling max kellerman. I'm like max. Christ almighty i used to talk to you and they'd be normal conversations and now you're talking to me like minutes at a time like it's i take and he's like my wife says the same thing he because you become this thing and i think you've got it exactly right. I chris. i think he's so used to there. Must be no hiccups here as i grind through television. Because it's gotta be perfect as i do it that that this medium is sloppier than that and he might not know and you'll help him a lot. There are you know imagining max. Kellerman telling his wife for three minutes that the carolina panthers are overrated. No this argument. I've got him doing it with like food items at the table. Yeah like hot. Take debates on like something about chinese food right. I i have stephen. A smith having a strong angry opinion about where the soul has been placed. I think that the conversation would be about not not a hot take because max kellerman one of the reasons that show has changed so much even though the formulas the same right is just stephen a. And bailey's used to be the guy so much so that they were going to bring back a reported that they were going to bring back bela's because the chemistry was special because they both knew the roles that they were in direct and they both appealed to a divided america. And you're talking about stugotz that show did ratings and a time slot where no one did ratings. Not much but just something which isn't very much and it was doing so not always a generalization but among the unemployed and that's all of it right. It's white resentment. It's black desperation. The unemployed and they stirred up stirred up formulaic with to wrestling characters. White against black arguing about things getting heated. It's two guys who know the wrestling roles. Bayless used to be a journalist. He chose this a long time ago. Yeah zero followers on twitter flexing staying young till the end really because he was never greg. You could speak to this skip. Bayless was never one of america's preeminent journalist. He was good but amongst our peers. He was a guy who was above average. Okay he didn't have the talent commensurate with what he's doing now. In writing right i would agree with that. Yeah he he's he's made a great career move to say the least and less alone. I do want to see something you said. You said zero followers on twitter. It's zero following. He doesn't follow anyone else. Because no one else's thoughts are worth hearing. Thank you good correction. But he's in character always in character. But i think where you were headed was when max took over. He was not doing that. He did not want to be skinny. Max still doesn't do that. This is the thing. I i can tell you for a fact that stephen thinks it would be a better show if it had less nuance that max is. Actually someone who's not gonna be bayless right and so maxes skip. Yeah max's as successful as skip. Max isn't even steven a. Max is exceptional at this good. God max is good at this. But he's not that and what's interesting about that is max came up wanting to be a hip hop guy. There's a there's a video that max kellerman did max. Kellerman was on television. He was like fourteen years old and new york fourteen or fifteen years old and then he becomes somebody who like i. I think i told you this. I had a conversation with him when he was thirty. Two or thirty three years old at. Pti where he was saying that he was a failure failure and he hadn't accomplished anything. Because look at what. Martin luther king and jesus did before they were thirty. Three i the expectation told you the first time i did. Pti with him. He says to me he wasn't joking. I'm the greatest public order since. Mlk wow. i said he wasn't kidding. Oh and from that. He did some things with it but the thing that he did notice is oh at some point here max take it slightly less seriously and just become the professional wrestler you don't have to worry about the nuance or being right or in this climate the race conversations. That actually require some thought. Don't worry about any of that. Just feed the the unemployed in that our again. Just people and it's not because there's overnight people and that's i'm not i'm not slurring that entire audience i'm just explaining to you. That people are watching television from ten to two. Unless they're not working you're actually and so what ended up happening there. There was fascinating to me is it became a slightly lesser show it became a slightly more palatable commercial show was less of an embarrassment for espn but it became a less good show right. And it's no. It's no fault of anything other than max max keeps bringing nuance to it. And it's like no not here is not what we're doing here is not what i take is all about. I mean alison stephen a smith. That was magical. I'd say what you will about both of them and that show. It was magical television. You had two guys willing to play a role on steroids really. It's crazy amac doing it. He's too smart. I prefer authentic though. I prefer i prefer. Yeah i get it. I prefer to be entertained. I get it. But i'm less entertained when i know you're faking it. I don't care if you're thinking it just entertain me like i think. Skip the skit. Was you're telling me we didn't see the real skip bail. Maybe that is the real skip bayless deep down inside. Don't rationalize this. Your argue on behalf faking because you have for twenty years out no doubt like of course you're going to argue embrace the character like right into my soul man. I was faking skip. It's like everything else around here. It's the volume turned up to ten. This is all look man. Fancy lad is fancy lad is like a him leaning into it or us making fun of it. it's just it's just leaning into the weirdness of the character of who you authentically art like what nobody around here when they're listening to our show knows what's real and what's not you still don't know whether greg cody actually betrayed me in on it together. You still don't know the only thing. That's real tony tony. I'm actually really skinny. I'm really skinny and real life. Actually it's all bit. I'm young up smart. Living in this episode is brought to you by whine dot com. The days of standing in the wine aisle staring aimlessly at a wall of wine without a clue are over. Go to wine dot com and pick the perfect bottle with confidence every time. Filter your search by price and professional ratings reviews and even chat with real wine experts for recommendations. It's the world's largest wine store delivered to your door and if you sign up for a stewardship membership you'll get free shipping year round on every order. Get fifty dollars off your first order by going to wind dot com slash spotify terms apply. Well welcome to miami lionel messi about that it's real it's happening trying to plug your column. Well you know you can read it in the miami herald if like clicks cody but You know we. We tend to not believe anything. That's reporting soccer because so much of it Rumor and speculation tend to tread transmogrify into reported news. So in this case you don't know whether it's true or not but a legitimate Spanish daily reported with with specifics that barcelona and messy are negotiating a ten year Contract extension that would include a two year. Mls swansong with inter miami and there were such specifics in the deal that i'm inclined to think it's happening and messy. You know he owns a seven the ninth floor of a luxury condo in sunny isles beach just north of miami beach and so he has a seven million dollar condo here. He loves miami and I it just seems so plausible to me. I think inter miami can honestly Begin to get excited about messy being here in a couple of transfer. Our chris cody. Can you put it on the poll. Please at lebatardshow. Have you ever used the word transmogrify. That sounds right to you chris. Does that sound right. James professional writer. I mean greg. Greg absolutely nailed the usa transmogrify there. I'm just jealous. Forgive me. i wasn't asking you. Did he get that right. I know what transmogrify means. I was asking you. Did he get messy right as are sore So that's a real interesting one because lionel messi. It's kind of the underrated story of the summer right. Now that the best soccer player in the world is currently a free agent and he might leave the clubs since he's like twelve years old and there is a lots of ways that the pandemic has affected world soccer. One of them is that most clubs are broke except the ones that are that are owned by oil state so like manchester city power says your man are like the only ones that really have money to spend and so barcelona trying to cobble together money and one of the things that they're offering is like hey in two years. Maybe you won't play for us but play for inter miami while representing us When david beckham initially unveiled inter miami like they were granted expansion. They've released a video. Lionel messi said call me at some point. I might be interested so inter miami has always had this possibility they just have yet to execute on any of these big stars because these big clubs are broke so a lot of the aging superstars are still staying in europe because a lot of these teams want him on lower salaries and you have to pay in order to get a younger player in. I love the symbolism of some of this and you're going to have to help me locally to tell me if indeed that soccer team that we have is sort of a shiny emblem that represents miami so well in that. It's trying so hard to give off where a pulsating vibrant colorful cool thing. But you're not sure if they actually have any money. I mean the they have money. They've been there. Currently the highest spending team in terms of salary and mass. But we don't know. I'm sorry. I misspoke i'm saying we don't know in the age of symbolism i'm fascinated by here i don't know if this is accurate what i'm saying. It just feels accurate as miami becomes. The capital of is that really currency as we become. Bitcoin and france like we city for a long time. And the guy who's mayor now his father was the original crook mayor like we've had so many assortment of crooks and we are leading the way on. Hey is this really money. Miami believes in anything that can be built on something in the shadows whether it's the entire city on cocaine or what's this crypto currency thing. Are we for real i. We're going to be loudest and now on coral gables. I don't even know what they bought it with. You've got to look up some of the details but purchases like this don't get made it in coral gables like whatever. This money is is flooding into miami. Because we're rule breaking town and we'll just sort of take whatever it is you're giving. We're leaving the way on this be shady currency but its currency and maybe it's the future will bet everything on it because we want to be the city of the future and i'm what i'm asking you and i'm yawning already after promising. I wouldn't is if that team sort of with beckham like moss was kind of just a phone. He didn't have the money when baseball came asking for it he was he wanted to sit. The marlins put them next loria so he can be on television being that miami guy but he didn't have the money he he could not buy it from geeder. This was not have the money right so he wants so badly to sports owner and now he's trying to make this team matter at this time as the money flood into miami and i'm asking you guys is based on what i'm looking and i'm like oh this looks shady man. They won't land they. They bring beckham out to dance because they want land in real estate cheating. I'm like all of it. Feels shady and miami and glossy and i'm asking you as an expert if i'm right about that or if i'm if i'm just attaching stereotypes i i will say i mean in of the actual deliverables. They had to build a stadium in nine months and they did it. They just most recently played a game in front of a fully a full stadium. Chris went to the game. I didn't. I didn't get a chance to go. I mean the the fans are awesome but the team has entity at hasn't had any unfilled success. And i mean they kinda knee one of these messy types to kind of build an outright now what that would be if that's real if all of that israel miami getting messy. Christ yeah goosebumps. Are you kidding me. Like you're telling me that might be real that we might be able to get him over here with a few bitcoin. Yup miami seem real. I mean i know it's hard to believe it's real now look There's a naysayer out there who's going to go. They're getting them at age. Thirty six and thirty seven. It doesn't matter he's messy. He is the biggest thing down here since lebron came in two thousand ten and globally a much bigger star than ever been waiting for this story since you can tell the people because you remember it. Do you not your child in new york when this happened with soccer with the arrows and the and the cosmo. Yeah yes they got giorgio canal lia. They got some they got great international players and it really flourish for awhile in new york until they became bad and was was done again wasn't palay didn't get the played at the Four the cosmo's at the end. But the and dan that helped with attendance but what really helped were getting guys in their prime like beckenbauer and guys like that to apply at giants stadium in front of pat houses and the team was really really good but paler certainly out. You fuse messy in miami. Even if it's miami telling you he's split spent he's gonna be palay at the end with the cosmos. He's not that player anymore. Miami's all flash man. Miami will support that at the at the start. Even if it's bad that will become an event immediately just to watch macy's i seized it. Miami will feel like it had one get just by getting messy messy beckham. what are you just shining things. We are just one of the ones. Oh amazing shiny things. We don't we might not have the money. We might not have the talent but we've got shining thing listen. Lionel messi is first game for inter. Miami could feel hard stadium. That's going to be the anticipation of this man. That's for sure louis. Got for sure. We're talking like eighty thousand people. Got stu gods massey's first game would fill two of those stadium. You don't know the city you're living in. You might be talking for palm beach. You do not know the city here living in the law. Drive this you you. The current stadium is closer to you than it is to miami to get us to meet in the middle. You look man. This is the pay per view aid. You just saw. What what the look mayweather came in. Install your money. He stole all your money. Because you smarter about this big event things miami could miami can't make a better bet. You can tryin. Sustain long-term finances attendance and make a great team. But this is a shortcut this shortcut to getting miami's heart because miami loves front running like this they will go to fort lauder. I can't think of anything else that would actually make dade county brown blend in to fort lauderdale white more than messy playing in fort. Lauderdale like i i maybe rinaldo. Yeah i mean and rinaldo is kind of up for discussion as well. He's another player. Who might leave his club. Ventas this summer And he is considering moving to the united states. And i think the other thing that's under appreciated is how much of an appeal. That is for these guys right. They recognize like they're big sponsor adidas nike companies at wanna be massive here and they recognised just the pure dollar signs that are to be made here and the report. That greg is referencing. His report from spanish newspaper called sport where they're basically guaranteeing messy. You might not be playing for barcelona in two years but even playing for inter miami. We can guarantee you. You'll be making sixty million dollars a year between what your salary will be an mls and all the other things we will surround you. Cheap honest to god. You'd be getting him cheap. You could sell out the first you. Can you make your money back the first day with that dude. What a great name for paper sport you mentioned earlier. They could fill that stadium twice. That's a good business plan if they messy. They play every home game twice. Just getting new stadium on top of the other or allowed just double the crowd in and just say whatever happens on each other. I am telling you that if you sold messy first game this way you said okay. We'll fill it once with you. Guys you get to watch the first half. We're going to charge you guys double on the second half and you can empty the stadium and fill it again. Wow you can do it. Everybody if you wanted to just taking everybody ages. But i like christmas idea. Do you think they would sell a hundred and sixty thousand tickets for an eighty thousand seat today. Diem in miami. We would have been my first come first serve. No doubt. I'm gonna tell you guys a true story because you just made me think when you said messy would obviously be nice since we're talking about Unbelievable things but rinaldo in terms of being miami messy actually is probably too quiet and not nearly enough of a personality rinaldo own this shit adam really play. I'm gonna tell you a story. I'd want naked. Go put a missing guards on. He'd have just in. The poll should go play naked but just in terms of perfection physically athletically carrying himself with grace and cool twice as tall as messy just as graceful. He'd fits miami better. And i can tell you having seen it myself. He loves miami soham by a by a pool at the w and i. This is a funny story. I out with greeny at this time. Right you guys have heard the end of the story not the end. I just remember you saying you saw rinaldo. I was hanging out with green. That's an aside. That's another side. I was hanging out with green and yes we had the conversation. I've told that story before. Yes we've had the conversation where he said he wanted to write one great book and his lifetime and i said what do you mean by grainy. You know a great book. And i'm like like the karan you wanna buy. You want to write the karan so that was one. That's one thing that happened by the pool. I'd rather hang with greeny now though that's true that's true. So are the only person in america. Not that put it on. The pole is the only person in america who would say rather hang out with greeny than rinaldo. I couldn't believe the way green and his family were behaving around rinaldo like or that. Everybody was behaving around rinaldo. That he's just laying in a chair there and it's flashbulbs going off. It's an in no way a real life like it's just because the foreign press is still crazy. I don't feel like we still do that with people do we do. Do we still do paparazzi. No i i mean maybe in los ange- maybe because we don't live in la like we don't experience that but in the uk like josie marino gets fired by spurs. There's twenty reporters stood outside his house waiting for him to talk for forty seconds outside of his car. Like they are still rabid. It's insanity and it would come to miami with massine. It's it's what would follow. I are you guys saying this. You're you guys are believing this report. Because you're saying it's got too many details and sport is to credible as to dot says it should be. But i mean this. Publication isn't going to be pro. Printing rumors is what you're telling me. I mean like greg said trusting. Journalism from the from europe is hard. Sometimes you just don't know and these deals are so complicated. But i mean it's always been kind of rumored for every major star. Every major star at the end of their career wants to go to the us just view it as a massive money making opportunities lots on came here was a big star for year and a half for la galaxy and then left owning twenty percent of a club in sweden. The business opportunities for these guys particularly post career are massive and messy has said directly That he would like to play a couple of years in america experienced life here. Experience the league here. So i think if any team gets him to think it's going to be miami and if any are you know would come here. I mean messy would still get a ton of attention right because he's messy but it's still much less efficient than living in barcelona is you can imagine a scenario where leeann oh mexican gaudin public and not be completely harassed which he can't do in barcelona right like they're still a modicum of anonymity. You can have a soccer star one of the things. I'm so excited about and one of the reasons that this weekend was so moving because if you've been watching this is the hood ornament on the business. This is the only thing exists right now on meadow lark media as it presently looks where the thing but it's going to become over the next few years something else and something that came across my like cross my desk. The other day is the ability to do the documentary with slot on where you're embedded in his last season. And can you imagine winning him. Like how like how. Many people wouldn't eat that up that particular guy right with all the draping search of way to himself. Problematic thoughts unbelievably arrogance. Should play naked and on a white stallion and so confident and did everything in la winning him. I wouldn't even expect messy to be that good. I wouldn't i if he were that. Good your chins of the team as well. That'd be great. But what i did was just he just infused starpower. Macy's not nearly that interesting. Messy i i have so rarely see. He's one of the most famous athletes of my lifetime. And i know so little about mets. These personality like shaped like the the box that he comes in. Do you guys feel like you know messy. He he ain't gonna be starring you. He's not going to be selling your city with sound bites. I don't feel like. I know. I'm not certain i feel like i know rinaldo just that. He's hot. I mean that's it. You know. He's more miami i mean and his right about but he's also got personality he he is that suave. That's i don't open matters. Does it matter if messy is nothing more than the myth that he doesn't have to be a voice or personality it's messy i. I think you're exactly right. Messy is messy. He's one of a kind he's arguably the greatest soccer player ever touch the ball. A lot of people are surprised to hear by the way that renaldo is actually older than messy which surprises some people but either way I think it needs to be said that david beckham desperately needs a messy. He desperately needs somebody to rescue him. Because the david beckham impeccable international brand has taken a hit with inter miami right now. Inter miami has been a colossal failure to this point. now it's only a year plus in They played thirty two matches. I think in one nine They've been they've been scandalised by the cheating scandal regarding rosser and budget in the biggest fine in mls history. David beckham needs something huge and positive to happen and messy. Is it like nobody else. What a great hail mary. If this is actually something floundering it. How miami is that. How miami's that something look. We're coming out of the box with a lot of noise and a lot of flash. We're gonna throw up in the air and maybe the money's real but when it got to be in baseball money was not real. The money was a bit of an illusion. Let's go big party. Let's spend the money all over the place. Oh we're not any good okay. You know what's a good way to get this city to turn on you. Real quick is be terrible and not famous trump back out there. Somebody okay yes that's right. They're done you. I i disagree. I disagree and mike kim back. This win when he's back but he sits in that club. Wait resurrection coming back as zombie producing the show as zombie. What i'm gonna. I'm gonna go to his tombstone in his spirit so he can tell me about what. It's like a nightclub waiting. Mike comes back. What the hell. You're talking about winning. What do you believe. In what other weird thing do you believe in soccer.

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Local Hour: Best Gingers In Sports History

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

39:28 min | 4 months ago

Local Hour: Best Gingers In Sports History

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Ben simmons because it is so rare in sports that you see something that looks like cowardice and it is articulated afterward in the locker room. Where joel embiid is saying. The game turned. On ben simmons not wanting to dunk the ball and passing it off and we make a free throw instead of two points. Embiid beat his asked whether he wants to run it back with the sixers after they lose. Game seven to the hawks and he says that's a tricky question. It's only a tricky question. If you don't want to answer it the way that it would be easiest to answer which is yes. I want to run it. Back doc. rivers is asked after the game. Can you win a championship with that. Point guard the answer. is i. Don't know philadelphia boeing him and booing the sixers as their season and the answer to that question. Two months ago was absolutely. I can win a championship with that point. Doc said it. He said i quit a championship with that gut. It had such a distortion of the modern game. To see a six ten player with a unique skill set be somebody who is perpetually playing the game inside out and now doesn't wanna do anything at the rim just wants to pass it out from the rim and the problem is chris. Cody was talking about as winning him was saying he felt one hundred percent. Bad for ben stem simmons even as he's a stoic robot and you don't know what's happening inside him when everyone in the arena and the court and on the opposing team smells your fear and then the internet is laughing at you and you are your box score is meek it is you are wandering around the court that entire series offensively doing nothing. You're just sort of wandering around is a superstar. And you're just you're milling a guy in produce at your public's about and occasionally you get ten assists because you got good shooters on your team but just put it on the poll. Please guillermo was ben simmons loitering on offense. I love a good stroll around the dairy section of a supermarket. I do i mean. It was so puzzling stugatz. Because cody chris cody is talking about. We have found our ford to a player. But one of the tools is doesn't want to shoot can't shoot and therefore all my god you've got a terrible contract on your hands. It's the worst tool to be missing from the toolbox. Is it not. If you're a basketball player. I don't want to shoot narrow put it on. The poll is the worst tool to be missing from the toolbox. I don't want to shoot a basketball player. It was hard to watch. Because i of course this always happens to me. I felt bad for him. Because i'm like scared and now we're all watching it and joel embiid saying he's blaming basically the series on. Yeah ben simmons had a dunk there and he just passed it. up he didn't want dunk is right under the basket with the ball open and he just passed it off convenient from the guy who had eight turnovers last night. I mean he wasn't scared now. He was not scared. And my guess is that he deflated some realize. Hey my running mate here the guy. I'm not sure. I want to run it back with. It's a tricky question. My running mate here can't trust him. Trust the curry brother. That isn't the curry brother that i'd prefer to have. That's that's my second superstar. Here's joel embiid after the game. He's blunt he's he's honest he's honest to a fault here. Here's joel embiid. After the game men the dining plan was you know when we say But i thought it done while. Which is you know we had not shot and the l. we miss. We made more free bill. And i'll miss the came down and scored and We didn't get to go possession on the other end. Trae came back and he made a three from the dow fall. You know to god's how an i've been the entire time we've been doing this show together to labeled somebody's scared or a choker but i don't know what other conclusion you can draw from. How meek his game was how rarely he shot in the fourth quarter. How often he was just coming down on offense and there was no threats. Stugatz of some of the stuff janas does which is. I'm so long. And so strong. That i'm just gonna do something at the rim because what are you gonna do like. That's how we prayed. that's how we played. He's such a confusing player. One of the weirdest players in the history league because he does all of these things. Well great rebounder. Great defender great creator of threes. The best creator of threes in the league by number so those three things he does an elite level all three of them and he's really athletic which is surprising because dan the only reason i bring that up is he can't hit a jumper. He can't work on his jump. Shot and be able to hit a jump shot with some sort of consistent soon. Do this is such a good athlete. You do this though okay. Because you're doing. The shack analysis should shacks analysis is be better all beat you up. And he's working on the jumpers. God's it's not. He's working every day thousands of times a day like you think that everyone shows up for work. The way you do right which is just like. Hey i'm going to wing it. I don't have to practice. I could just do it this way. He does not. he's every day there are people watching them and paying babies practicing too much. I mean he's not good during games at making jumpers in a way that makes people wonder whether he's actually left-handed. It's it's a legitimate conversation. People think that he's right handed. He has said that his father taught him to do things left handed but he might be right handed and that might be the next step for him. Somebody might get a gold mine. If i'm going to guess. Daryl more he's gonna trade him even though his value is low. Barrymore doesn't sit around with with broken piece. What would you get for. Ben simmons right now i mean. I mean he's value he. He's still young. He's one of the weirdest players in the history of the league on the number one draft. Pick who didn't make the ncaa tournament lsu and his lsu team had a losing record and a number one overall draft pick. That doesn't happen very often. I think they got knocked out of the nit early as well or didn't play in the nit just a loser somebody who's been with the skill set. That's amazing who has been a public loser. But do you know how rare it is to watch what we were watching last night where you're like. Oh wait a minute. that's cowardice. He short circuited. His confidence is spent. It reminded me of like rick and keel. Not being able to throw a strike or marquel sort of. It's unbelievable. The sixers had two of those guys if they took jason tatum and they had the chance. If they took jason tatum. I mean tatum and embiid that win championship. does it. not. I mean so. Many people are banging on about the process and it's largely centered around. Ben simmons how that number one overall pick didn't work but this is a team that also took like jalil okafor ahead of kristaps porzingis like they've made a ton of huge mistakes at the top of the draft where they just made any one of these different choices they would have a running mate for. Joel embiid you're right. Seth curry was the running mate for joel embiid last night and it was almost enough. It should be enough at home in a game. Seven when trae young is missing. Eighteen out of his twenty three shots. You can't you can't lose a game seven at home when you're the one seed and you've got to superstars and the other team doesn't it's such a great point you got the worst game. Trae young is going to play and you still beat that team at home. Five of twenty three. Ben simmons is part of that stu gods trey young. Ben simmons defends really well. He was second defensive player of the year voting and thought he should have won it. But talk to me a little bit about. I'm usually the only one around here who feels bad for anybody in those situations where i see what's happening and there's no defense for it. Everyone is laughing at you. Everyone sees that you're shrinking in a way that might as well be physically to the size of a postage stan. I felt bad for him be. That's the guy felt bad for. He's out there on one leg trying to carry that team. I feel bad for ben. Simmons ben simmons shrunk in the moment that's what he did. I didn't feel badly for them. I mean work harder but he fairly obviously short circuited. Like you never see a moment. That is a crystallization. Someone will him urinalysis. Alice's your concerns your back away from the microphone. Apparently ashamed of yourself sweat. Wh what is your muttered off about. Was it about ben. Simmons being awful or you felt like your take was awful where you work harder and then physically turned your back to the microphone. It was all of its of in for being honest. All of it. I was disappointed in myself of telling a guy that work harder. When i don't work hard myself. I've all of it. Dan what do you want. I think it's a work issue. I you know this is the analysis that shaquille o'neal has all the time right where he's like be better be more. Aggressive be. More like shack was because shack is the biggest strongest person in the history of the sport. Be more like being big. And strong as i am except when it came to free throws where he couldn't shoot and amine told us last week that he would shoot ninety percent practice and the lights are on ono. He's shooting forty seven percent and didn't probably want the advice then. Hey shack just be better or work harder Rent a clip on inside the nba. Of ben simmons this press conference and at the end of it goes man. Punch him in the face like like. This tactic is always if something went poorly punched in the face another decent shack by winning his. Put that on the poll guillermo shack solution to everything i'll punch it in because that was his analysis afterward if he was in the locker room i knock him out well first of all shack cook. Brian called you fat ass. You're in the locker room with him. You didn't knock anybody out like he publicly called you a fat ass before a training camp and you're not someone who knocks people out in the locker room in fact. Do you remember the shack fights. Because he had one with barclay. And i think crazy scott skylines one time when after shaquille o'neal which just seems insane on its surface skylines didn't care. Has that reputation. That was such a great moment this week. And we're gonna be talking a lot about basketball today but pj tucker such a funny sweet moment between pj tucker and kevin durant where pj tucker everyone knows is nuts is simply crazy. Do not bleep with. Pj tucker like he. He can't guard kevin durant but it had to be an annoyance of fly around and elephants tail throughout that series to have. Pj tucker always sort of in his naval so much shorter bothering kevin durant and at one point. Kevin durant smother spits at pj tucker. And there's a relationship there i don't remember they said that. Pj tucker one point help recruit. Kevin durant. I don't know whether it was a texas or somewhere else but kevin durant's mom says this isn't football this is basketball and pj tucker who was basically hissing and seething the entire game looks at her and says i love you and she pulls down her mask and she says i love you too and at the height of tension in a game seven p. j. tucker melts of the way only the way you can only when the mother of your friend who you love does something adorable. Pj put it on. Put it on the poll. Guillermo did kevin durant's mom make. Pj sucker melt a it was a great strategy to put this on. The poll is well. Did you know that kid. Pj top talker was capable of sweetness. Because i didn't. I didn't think he was capable. Love smiling all of it. Anyone other than winning and feel bad for ben simmons or was it just laugh at ben simmons time kind of have a rule that i said long ago that i'd never feel bad for anyone that dated kendall jenner. Well now i feel bad for a rule. You have is it okay. It's an interesting role. Put that the poll. Guillermo do you have a life. Principle never feel bad for anyone. It's a great role. It's a good life principle. I feel bad for him to. I mean he said that it's all in his head right and so the us talking about it is only gonna make it worse. I think he needs to get out of philly and do what markle foltz whatever he did when he left and went to orlando because he ended up being a whole lot. Better when he got out of philly and Just get some quiet time alone. Somewhere in a market where. Maybe people aren't going to talk about you every day like they do at when you're playing on the sixers when you say quiet time alone. That is what it is. That makes me feel bad for him. That's a bad night. For ben simmons to be alone with whatever it is the doubt in your head is and everyone saw it right. Your teammates aren't like it's compounded by that and that's what makes it really bad is now. Your teammates are starting to give into it like you. And your and your coaches lending his voice to it and that has to feel bad and asked everyone is doubting your confidence as you doubt your confidence everyone is doubting your ability as you doubt your ability and it is a fascinating so that's the evolution that sport over the last five years has been super interesting to me for a lot of reasons at three time defensive player of the year the utah jazz. The game pass them by structurally. They gave money to the wrong guy because he can be he can be terri- manned out of a series that three time defensive player of the year and one of the greatest distortions of the evolution. That game is that ben. Simmons is playing it backwards. He goes to the rim when he dares to go to the rim. because he wasn't doing it in this series but he goes to the rim with the intent. Of how do i throw the ball back out. What do i need to do to throw the ball back out far away from the rim. And he's just short circuited i. I'm trying to think of giving the precedent because you see it sometimes at the free throw line with guys you see it now with janas time to think at the free throw line when it's not muscle memory when it's not anything it's just here. I am alone with my skill set and my doubt. I'm going to the free throw line. I have time to think. I'm not good at this. It's not muscle memory. it's not practice. It's not instinct. it's not reflect. It's time to think about all this. Give me example outside of the free. Throw line where you've been watching a dude and you know not you're guessing you theorize you know that dude scared he scared. It's not like paul george. Maybe he's scared. The moment i don't know where camello anthony's choker you're watching and you're like this dude might be a coward in this spot. I would say kicker who's had a bad stretch going out to kick a big field goal. I would say a golfer who's who's not good at putting those are the two things that come to mind. forgive me. I was saying basketball. Because i'm talking about the physical idea of muscles on top of muscles and size on top of size and physical in nature. And so i'm asking you about basketball. Not in in sports where you actually have time to think when you're lining up a shot. Once upon a time lebron with the heat you he got to the free throw line. You would say okay. I don't know if lebron shoot sixty percent from the from the line like it was scary. Is that right. I don't remember that that wasn't something with the heat. that wasn't something that presented. Was that something cleveland. That's not something. I have any memory of dallas series like when he went to the line when they were up and it was like. Okay can he try and seal the deal. Like i. I didn't i didn't i. Don't remember him being super confident going to line. Wasn't that skip bayless armor and shield reads like he can't shoot free throws now he sees not clutch i. I remember him one year shooting like sixty seven percent on free throws but i never remember having the feeling watching lebron step to the foul line. They gain the moments too big. He's not good at this. He's not gonna hit these. He's afraid of this. That's the feeling you have with ben. Simmons i'm not even talking about free throws don't forgive me. There might not be an example. The reason i'm keep coming back to the question is because i couldn't remember off the top of my head while i was watching it another time in basketball where it was that obvious to me. This star basketball player doesn't want anything to do with anything. That's happening out here. Would you include john. Starks net compensation. Why think of him as irrationally confident even as he kept missing jumpers shooting he wanted to for eighteen in that game or something ridiculous like that but i didn't think of him as afraid to shoot he had sort of the tim. Hardaway mentality of tim hardaway. I think one time missed seventeen straight shots and he was asked. What did you think on the eighteenth. I thought i was going. It was going in and nick. Anderson had time to think about it because he's at the free throw free throws are different. Doing that was good if free throws that was the odd thing about that like he was. I was confident. Nick was going to hit at least one. That's good that is a that is a good example of a time because the free throw line is. I'm where all the time. Eddie jones had the reputation in miami of being somebody who shrunk. But i'm not talking about reputation. I'm talking about consensus. You're watching it and you're like. Oh my god this is so. There's no one who's gonna make the argument on the other end of this. That ben simmons is not afraid there. You're not who's going to take the contrary position today. After watching that series fourth quarter no field goal attempts anywhere. A guy who can cave in defense the way janas. Ken stu gods like it was weird. Yes that is. Not ben simmons as a player no matter what your criticisms of ben simmons have been the criticism has never been that guy simply doesn't want any part of anything to do with scoring. He's not even trying he's just wandering around. He's milling about the perimeter or he's just walking over to a corner with no interest whatsoever in impacting game in a meaningful way. Ben simmons. you. One is the ben simmons that played in the first round against the wizards. That's ben simmons. It's fifteen points eleven rebounds. It's nine and a half assist. He plays great defense but he gives you fifteen points in this past in this series against the hawks and he was under ten points per game. You can't have that you cannot be the second guy a team and give joel embiid and your organization less than ten points. A game being the number one overall pick of the draft. It just can't happen. Forgive me stugotz. I don't mean this as an indictment of you. I'm asking the question sincerely because the stat line is one thing. Did you watch what it is that i'm talking about where you're you're physically watching dude. Like of course he can get a handful of points just dunking near the rim. I'm talking about how we normally plays where you know that once he gets the ball at half court it straight to the rim and everything is going to bend around him because he's too tall and handled the ball to well versus. Just get to the three point line board board and just hand it off to somebody and then just wander over into the corner like you're someone who's lost his mental faculties like just lost his confidence. But you never see in that sport like that. Or i never do like. I'm going to guys not being able to throw the ball back to the mound mackey. Sasser steve sax not being able to throw the ball to first base like a mental short-circuiting. Unlike anything you've seen. I mean ben simmons after the game when he was describing the play in question said he was afraid of danilo gallinari off the backside blocking his shot like. When is anyone ever been afraid of danilo. Gallinari defensively was the first. I thought it was trae young coming over. I didn't even think it was danilo. I thought it was just. I thought maybe he was spooked by trae young. Can we put that on the poll. Somehow whatever been scared of danilo gallinari defensively on the backside. It is not great for your game. Seven fortunes land your superstar. Your ledge superstar is worried about danilo gary gonorrhea what remains of his mohawk swooping in and doing what because honest to god when i think of danilo gallinari all i think of is he's gonna take threes. He's going to take threes. And i'm not. I don't totally trust and did have the game. Changing defensive play against embiid. those surprising. Maybe he should feared him the way. That ben simmons did on the backside. Maybe simmons was support for this. Podcast comes from invent together. According to studies less than thirteen percent of all inventors who hold a us patent are women black and hispanic college graduates patent at half the rate of their white counterparts. But we can fix that by increasing participation in innovation and patenting by underrepresented groups. It would quadruple. The number of american inventors and increase annual gdp by almost one trillion dollars. Invent together is a coalition of patients companies. Universities and concerned citizens committed to ensuring that everyone has the opportunity to invent and patent because the more diverse. The american patent system gets the stronger and more successful. our nation will become. What can you do to help. Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action. today chris. code has been work shopping at take back here. which is kevin herder. Is doing it for the gingers. Perhaps the best ginger. Since bill walden in sports wait a minute. Mcguire has to be right. Mark maguire has to be the greatest ginger in the history of sports. I was thinking basketball. Like i wasn't really going on now. They're sports but in all of sports me outside mcguire. I don't even know he might be. He's up there with the who Sean white tomato kevin to belgium in boris. Becker is a good one. doesn't turn her. Does boris becker count as a ginger. Oh come on. He's got red hair man. I haven't elo alvarez. Oh yeah let's just stick with basketball is blake griffin ginger. That's the debate is oldest timer. There as is it really. Chris us all this talk. You seem to be convinced that. Boris becker is a redhead. I think of boris becker as being blonde. I don't know if he is strawberry blonde if he is somewhere in the middle. I don't think he's close. We claim them okay. Is that how we do it right. That where we with boris becker. We'll take anyone. I'm gonna google. What color is boris becker's. See this guy kind of has the thing. My brother-in-law has going on. It's like he's got the orange beard but the hair kind of blind eye ginger there. I said very blonde is a whole different category from ginger. I think yeah you don't get made fun of the way ginger true strawberry blonde speaking from experience. Because i am. I was born strawberry blind and the strawberry blonde people. They like to make it clear when somebody does make ginger joklik. Hey i'm not one of them. I mean he's like the kid that south park episode came out where they said that gingers. Don't have souls ruined. My net distanced myself being ginger episode. Ruined a few years of my life. Is that true. I mean that's what they say ever since then. Did you have the reaction. I thought you had to. How awful the nickname. The flying tomato. I never heard that's like that's the first time you heard the nickname and you thought to yourself that it's terrible nickname. I suppose it's better than being simply a grounded. Tomatoes a little lazy. Andy dalton off rocco. Just something else on the list on. What list i mean greatest Read air yes. He's on the list is a having read air. Dale earnhardt jr. I don't think that. I don't think andy dalton senior gets to be on the list of greatest athletes ever of any kind at any time at any position did google god's google bleacher report from twenty twelve again. Why why do you think you started. Spitting them out one after another range. Dan i don't know if i think if you're a starting quarterback any as a starting quarterback in the nfl. Just get you on that list. I think even though he wasn't that great like he was a starter in the nfl for a few years And i questioned every year and was started whether he was actually a backup for just a cheap organization. That didn't want or care about doing. But i think you thought that because he had red hair possible i mean. He made the playoffs to end like five straight years arguing. That let me know. I just want to step back. Let's see what you're arguing. Let's go ahead construct the argument. What tell me what you're telling me about andy. Dalton go ahead please. What i'm saying is andy. Dalton has to go down as a top ten redheaded athlete of all time simply because he started at quarterback and not many red head. Start at the most important position in sports. That's all took his team to the playoffs. Five years that's all it's either hamer sunny jergen sit that bill walton. Steve martin was a prop comic. Tell me too god. How many playoff games. Andy dalton one. Because you did the took him to the playoffs. Five straight times zero. oh and five in the playoffs. Ooh billy brings up a good point. Dennis rodman billion agree with your point. You used it as billy brought up that a worm. Andy dalton has never won a playoff game. I don't think so. I mean the bengals haven't won a playoff game forever rights. I have to look it up now. I mean i could be wrong. He is indeed. Oh and five in the class lost to the jets once or twice all right. So let's hear the argument again just took his team to. The playoffs is now. Is now the standard. Yes so the argument is there are very few. There's only two. I could think of a redheaded quarterbacks in the nfl andy dalton. The rat rifle started for the cincinnati. Bengals made a bunch of pro bowls. I think and went to the playoffs. Five times never won a game but want to the playoffs five times and because it's the most important position in sports he's deserving of top ten redheaded athletes of all time. You say it's the most important position sports. What you failed to sort of assess is the idea of will find no other quarterback allowed to start that long without winning a playoff game for a franchise like you. Won't you won't find somebody else right. Go ahead and name them. All stafford won a playoff game. Like you're you're going to have a hard time saying no stafford did not wanna playoff game. I i mean the the lions have won a playoff game in thirty years. I presume that he hasn't. I thought that there was one playoff. Victory for the lion in the last fifty years and it was stafford's i thought i had that right. I may not i. I didn't think that stafford was winless out of stafford three defeats from three. What they had to. They have a bye green. It's not a win. you're absolutely right. It's not a win. A by is not a win in stugotz is defense. Andy dalton's probably the best. Tcu quarterback of all time. So if you're the best quarterback of all time at a power five school does that automatically make you a great quarterback. I think it might you. Where does jeff garcia fit into this conversation. Did he win a playoff game. We had to win a playoff game. Yeah he had that Throated te'o that wanna play off game right with mariuchi as the coach final. Play of the game. If you go ball that you still ginger. Yup look it up. We need to update like a month's worth of polls we haven't updated any of these polls show. We just do this now. She we we really need to do this. At some point. Catch up on all of the polls over the course. Maybe we do that in the post game show just not stop polls for however long time we did it even if it's forty five minutes nonstop of poll guys carson. Wentz has been brought up in the chat. Wow i think. He's a ginger really isn't he. Maybe straub is strawberry blonde category. Is he gored. That didn't win the league. Mvp or come close wait calls carson wentz. Not like or was he was. He was on his way before he tore his acl and then falls took over and then just holds won. The super bowl team then wins overwhelming thick. I'm sorry what the dick move by the show nickname. look at. what do you want me to. I didn't realize it was nickname. I thought it was just something you because you were going through a room one time. Whoa how would your own. This episode is brought to you by roundup ready to use wheat grass killer. It's got the sure shot. 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I think you're thinking a little off little revival for Once the old change of scenery. Nothing better when's the last time. The change of scenery worked ballots the change of scenery and reunited with autrey drew. Brees win from the chargers. It was kind of okay. There became one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time in new orleans. Peyton manning's as i want to work or not. Yeah works and we want a super bowl. Yeah that's not change of scenery is. He's a bad player in one place and then needs another place in order to get better. So i don't think paint manning counts because he was great in indianapolis until he had the he was horrible in in denver for that last season and they carried him to championship. So maybe it's keep adverse nobody heat for fifty eight touchdowns his first season. He won a super bowl and they wanted to. You did change scenery wrong. It's okay no change of scenery. We'll give zev marquel. Foltz changes cnn. Mark going gonna become a great player but at least it hasn't had a yips anymore. I believe wittingham is right. There that peyton manning was always great and he went to denver and he was also great at the beginning. I think thirteen games in he was on an mvp pace and then his neck fell apart and at the end he had nine touchdowns and seventeen interceptions while they were winning the championship. It does not count. I do love. How wittingham just told you to take the l there. I just admit that you've got it. Wrong what wittingham said. Just admit that you don't understand change of scenery. The way he understand how an who know right. we're playing. i just hit him with the reverse guard. And he's got a but you reverse dunk nothing like you've brought him up as a change of scenery and then you re trying to figure out a way to make it work for you. It didn't work reverse the double reverse. Actually who knows. Why does everyone have their own rules. Why can't we all get on the same page in terms of what the rules are because the original no rules think that's why it's a complex game like they're like there's a lot of things that that can can go on. Are you on these. Are you one of these monsters. That can stack bunch of pick fours on top of each other is draw for and yes i ever. It's whatever you that's a fine. What's a fine i mean pick for. Everyone knows draw four. I mean you live for draw force. I was in a game. Once were somebody had the draw. Thirty six cards. It was so that's absolutely true. Nine fours they've played at the same time that is not a game and just dropped jaw. Zoos and draw wars on each other and eventually landed on somebody. Wow juju is back there rattling a cage. And i don't know where this is going to be directed but i believe this is the first what somebody believes. Don't roy don't talk over the against undefeated chickens talk dangerous game. No but what do you mean. You refused to their undefeated. And it seems clear to the group and the chickens that what you're suggesting is mathematically possible. I wanna be. I said it was a draw thirty nine or something if he had draw. Because all even numbers. There's four drawers deck. That's true from what do you mean. It's not true looking at it. No double decks though because some people do play with double. That's eight eight or does that still makes it. Mathematically impossible is is roy now claiming something stronger. Keep in mind strong tuesday in their. Ira gal who is that. How do you pull ever anything like there is actually eighteen. It like it was draw eighteen but each time you tell the story like climbs up by two. It's kind of like stugatz devils. I'll anecdote were every time it gets closer to the whole. I feel like every time you retail the story. It's gone from eighteen thirty six. No no no. It may start at thirty two went up thirty six thirty. I'll rustling. i'm not backpedaling. Back finley thirty. As i believe that when this story gets told ten years from now there will be cards drawn throughout the nineties. I spent the entire ninety s playing a game of a fold. Becca draw floors. I did actually look trying to argue with peaking chickens. I can't believe me fried chicken. Jesus know galileo was ginger. Wow ooh big phil kessel. How do we not think of phil kessel. Dick there's gotta be some other hockey ones right mike. Commodore you have no idea to chuck norris the greatest of all time though the great if galileo was a ginger that i think he's got Chuck norris kicks his injured little poll question. Who's the best all time. Galileo or chuck. Norris put that on the poll guillermo best read of all tiny. La or chuck. Norris has to be in or roy. Halladay cody or. Chris fell castle. Fat fuel kessel. Worse becker gritty. Wait this i george. Washington was a ginger appearance. Whoa pal white hair always white hair. 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The Gospel Tract that is Not a Gospel Tract

Understand the God Who Speaks

54:34 min | 1 year ago

The Gospel Tract that is Not a Gospel Tract

"Okay so tonight. What we're going to do is we're going to learn how to use the official letter to talk to people about christ. I need to set up something here. This is very important. There are actually two sides and there are two conditions on both sides on witnessing. And if we don't meet all four conditions on both sides it won't work and he. This is how the bible sets it up. The there's condition from the prospect or the unbeliever side. There's they're made. There's there's there's two conditions on our side on the christian side on the unbelievers side. There is the first condition. Is they have to acknowledge that. There's something wrong. They have acknowledged that there's something wrong in their lives. And what we're going to do. In fact i if you read romans. The seventh chapter thirteen verse. It says this it's very interesting. Phrase the lol heightened and invigorate sin. We're going to use law to heighten in invigorate said and then the second edition it. They must be not only must acknowledge. Is there something wrong. They must acknowledge that they want to fix the problem. If they don't want to fix the problem we can't help them. So we're going to do that. And the where moines do us in fact mark the ted chapter the verse Jesus said to the to the disciples again he said. Why don't you call me. There is only one who is good my father in heaven. He is good and we're going to use that that that In by the word that is that is a greek were called agatha's which'll early means moral. Excellence moral excellence. And we're going to use the moral goodness of god as the basis or for drawing that out and then there's on our side of thanks. We have two things that we have to do. We have to present the gospel message as the cure are are the solution to fix the problem. That's the first thing and the other condition is not only. Do we have to give the message. But we have to. Give the message in relational terms. I do not agree that with the tracks that we have. In fact the gospel tracks that we have started in eighteen. Seventy under spurgeon. I think that what he had was. Okay but i have a lot of problem with three steps to salvation or steps asaba nation because that s a mechanical way of of getting people to the kingdom. I believe that there is a relational way of getting people in the kingdom. And we're going to look at how we do that so with that in mind so what i wanna do is i want to set up now. Bill you're going to be my yes man otake whenever i ask you a question. You're going to say yes diane. You're going to be my no ma'am every time i asked you a question. You're going to say no okay. So here's how it goes. I would Pull up and i would talk to someone. And i would say and i'd say you know That's it Do you do you consider yourself a good person building. You consider yourself a good person. Yes okay would you like to put that to a test. Okay here's the test and it's just it's not anything complicated ears the tests. Have you ever lied. It doesn't matter the mount of life. It's a white lie. Little lie leaped out. Something of that in that was not the truth. Are you left out something. That was the truth. Have you ever lied anyone. yes okay. Here's what have you have you ever wanted so at someone else. Had you wanted something that they own. you felt. I could be better in your hands than there's so now what we determined bill is. You're not only a liar. You're covid ter- day so we've determined that so you're not such a good person all right yes no. You're not you're not. So here's one they got me. I discovered that when i lust after woman in my own art. I'm an adulterer now. Has anyone have you diet ever lust after a anyone in your own. Art never never lasted after anyone. Bill have you ever lusted. Yes you have. So now we determine your aligarh cover and in the dull for so basically. You're not so good after all. You're not so good after all. So here's the question if you're not so good. Would you like to fix the problem. Would you like to turn back all that you have done and and wipe the slate clean okay. So i've got a good story takes about two minutes it might. It will definitely fix the problem with you allow. it won't fix the problem. If you don't wanna hear it yes i well it goes like this I believe that. Jesus christ this real now though you may not see him he's real. He's here among us and he wishes to say something to you and he's going to use my hands to gesture my mouth to speak and here's what he says. I like you. And i see a beauty. You that endures that could never match all the starry skies whichever been created by my father who is in heaven. You're more precious to me than all the diamonds go and silver which has ever been a refine in discovered by man in fact in houston inherent worth that. My father has given you as a superlative give. And i have known you before since you were born. And it is my heartfelt desire that i want to create you for greatness and greatness on a scale that's grander than the creation of the cosmos. Out of nothing. You know. I alone can fashion you for this greatness. Only if you a bide in me as a person at obey me and trust me that is the only way this works out my My demands are simple. I demand that you accept me as lord and savior down. You will discover that. I'm greater than any lord or savior whom you've ever met greater than any humid you have ever met and it is. My father's will and my My desire that you relate to me as a person of the deepest of human levels now my mastery and more chipper not heavy burdens in fact their light in them. you'll find rest and an unending. Love that slacker. Refiner speyrer that will burn away all the hindrances that keep you from reaching perfection as my father intended for you to have in fact you will discover that. I'm the kind of master who will not reject. You are turn you wear whenever you do wrong. In fact on the kind of master he'll pick you up and absorb your since into myself when you do wrong and i will set you on the path to what is right and where you go i go and nothing that you could ever do will ever drive me away from you. Nothing in fact. I will go. So far is allow you to abuse me. Without flinching from my commitment of making you add after the moral perfection of my father. who's in heaven. I make this pledge to you. I will make you so perfect. One day you'll be presented before my father who is in heaven and is perfect. And you will not be ashamed. I place to take all the circumstances of your past of your crescent and even up your future and the conditions into which you were born and turn them into the great occasions for making you the jewel of the universe at one day. I can lay before my father. Who is in heaven and you. You will a- deathly be well pleasing in his sight. Now i have. I have an enterprise for you. That's grander than anything you have ever seen. I haven't enterprise that. I invite you to be a partner with me in the remaking the transforming the unify and the restoration of all things in heaven and burke after the pattern of the moral excellence and moral goodness of my father. God now my my profits vote could not exhaust all the words and meaning. That went along with this plan of the ages. But i promise in. I pledge to you that you will fulfill it but if you accept me as your lord and master you will build it in every way that was meant for you and you will not bill is shay and all your suffering and pain for carrying out the plan of the ages will not go in vain and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. All you have to do is accept me as lord and master. And if you do that i promise together we will walk this walk and i promise you're going to bill that you were intended to have. This is my pledge to you. This is my lordship of what it all means. Because i put it all on the line. I will remake you after the after the sons of god. Even the sons of god will rejoice. After i remake you into what i really want you to be all this for you. All you have to do is accept me. And i give this freely. You now will come a day at the day that you die it you do not accept me the the the love that you feel for me right now. We'll turn into a love that birds it will not be a loved that you will like and it will be a love that will actually become wrath and i invite you now to accept me as your lord and savior this. I pledge to you that i will do everything in my power to be your god and you will be my son and my daughter. Then i leave that person and i leave them to make that decision. Now that's the presentation of the gospel. That i believe that we do and we use all the fish and letter to help us building because the visual letter talks about the plan of the ages this unified and bringing all creation back self. It talks about human dignity talks about you know how we are. We are the gifts of god how we are his workmanship that sufficient to late nine. It talks about all those things and all of that is put in this. This this plan of the ages. now. I'm going to send you this. You'll have this tonight as well. 'cause i i'll have this written mount for you but this is what i use whenever i talked to anyone about christ so anyway in questions very good any question sound on the phone. I mean on zoom out there. I'll unmuted you you'll have to yourself number braid. Get any questions on the phone she. She's she's visible how we're fine joins visible now. Now jane johnson having questioned now. That was great. Now you're listening to us right. I'm going to send that to you. It's going to be very short tonight. Okay this this this. This shouldn't take more than two minutes to talk to people. But this is how. I present the gospel to people. And that's my that's my. That's my gospel track. That ain't a gospel track. You a disaster No no that's that that's what we talked about one time before. The only thing that we have to do is get them to believe. that's right. he's because we preach that jesus paid it all if we if he paid it all. Why in the world are we always asking them to pay back really. That's that never that never that is totally on biblical this good nineteen or the sixteen chapter. John tells us that on belief is what we have to get asked. Jesus has painted all. He's pay for the sense. He's done everything. The only thing that we have to do they have to do is give past. They're a bully it past their unbelievable and that's that is that is to me the the gospel presentation and i will send that to you. Use were doing shell. Where is saying. I'm not using the bible. This is my how i talk to. The is coming from a fish in all of this coming from fish. Well i don't think you're gonna find too many unbelievers that really have care about the bible. What they care about. Is this relationship with the person. Jesus christ we can get to the bible later. Listen i have it in. That's bhai if you wanna do that. That's fine i. I don't i i literally i've had this. I pull up a empty chair. And i point to believe jesus christ real. And he's sitting in this chair right here with us you know. He's just as real as you and i. You may not see but nevertheless the real. And then i go into it and you don't have to sell you. Don't have to sell that. Oh no you don't people since. Then they kind of sense it. Yeah because we have to remember the holy spirit is working on this. This is not me. This is the argument. that's right. We're not we're laying out there and very real terms in the holy spirit. Now take sober. This is what he's supposed to do. Each the one could mix the world and righteousness and judgment. Yes what okay dale. So i go a little bit more into Do you talk to them about the holy spirit. That's inside of them i will. Here's what happens this this is at. I've done this under two palms. Here's what normally happened. I'll give you my experience every time you do this. They'll go wild they literally go. Wow i've never heard it like that before. And then they'll start asking questions and those questions server usually center on. Can you tell me more about christ. Can you tell me more about I've heard this. I dealt usually say i've heard this when i was in church a long time ago. You know they'll ask about the holy spirit. Don't ask the father that's when it gets interesting when they start asking you questions after you present this you know you got him. You know you got your you know the holy spirit's got a hold of is what you know okay. So what do y'all thing and you help you. Have all the answers to give them when they started asking questions. You're not dale marone. They'll all the answers. But you know. I you know at least to give them some answers. You'll find most people. Don't ask a lot of questions. No they're not. They don't have enough knowledge to ask a very complicated questions. Their questions are more or less you know. Can you tell me a little bit. More about the bother of the dispirit the sod. Can you tell me about what i need to do. After this. And of course i bite. My job is once. I get them into the king once. Jesus christ saves them. My job is to be there There what do you call it. Their their disciple. Or i couldn't take the word. Thank you bill there decider. That's my job you know and that should be every christian. Is our job at the preachers. It's not anybody else. It's it's our job now. I want to get them into church. And i'm going to get them into a sunday school class. Absolutely but then i. I'm as my grand. Because i want to teach them what i know about the living. Christ dads can stay at. It is probably most relational point of of the gospel that i can give. I don't like tracks. Never have i don't care for him. I think they're mechanical. I don't think that they were at that. Was not how the bible ever ever talked about. The christ got the living christ. Well there's nothing. There's nothing in the scripture that that ever encourages us to use a formula to understand. Right never wads. That's right that's right. That's right romans. Ten nine hundred ten right there. That's it roams ten ninety ten. That's important wind up. That's right now. This is short. But i was hoping that we'd had some discussion on things. That may be all have questions on what we've talked about in the past the notes that you might read anything i was open. This will be the night of open discussion. Besides just talking about this. No questions were there. I don't know that. I can speak from the other folks but my my sense of this is in gored through these sessions. Where hugh is how. Extreme my ignorance of the bible say you know what i would not say he said going through the freshest with you i've learned how how ignorant i am of the bible. Say that he to. I keep telling people that more that you forgot more than i know. Well i think it's good. I think it's good that you're explaining to us the way you approach because most fellas and tried the track or the it it you will. Yeah the baptist formula. Yeah it's not it's not. He's not old by. The bag is way the other folks try the same thing but but they they immediately stumbled. Because i think once we don't understand how to ask the question so the person can understand something really wrong they have to be. They have to be pretty distressed in many cases. When you you know when you get you're talking about your everyday relations Yet to get to know a person pretty well before. They're gonna admit that they're in straw. No i've done this to strangers graders. I usually with the people that i you know. I may be at a restaurant. And i'm talking to someone. I'm sitting here by myself and i'll i'll just I'll just start talking to a stranger next door to me or over. Demand will start yacking. And then i you know i'll just say hey. Let me ask you a question. You consider yourself a pretty good person. They always say yes. Time say said really want to put that to attest. Now look at me kind of strange not. Just play along with me. It's not gonna kill you. And when they when i with them they really are very very moves. I believe this is a relational point of the gospel. Presentation of the dos. Some people may differ last week Mountain are risk the shit when eastern i. Jason rally wanted one and session elbow a while. Then a da bundy's raymond was talking about. He was a. He was on a bicycle and he got tired. Any any any Was sitting And he he saw this what he thought was the lady probably had long hair turned out to be a young man sitting by himself and he was You know and he wrote off and he he didn't bring he didn't talk about the lord so that was his doing not every time we we you know. It's not every time we have to find the condition which they they're willing to meet them if they're not willing to fix their problem. They're not willing to knowledge. They have a problem. We can't help cels lower ranked. Yeah and then spirit does prompt you. Yeah it's not. Like i do this every resident out somebody no. It's not like that got day. Yeah yeah the spirit does property you know. I just feel like okay. This person needs needs to hear this. And i've used this many times. When i was a young pastor is what i did. This was my invitation by the way it was my invitation. Change it up every time but this would be my invitation. So i'll send this out to you. It's it's a five pages. 'cause i have some scriptural thority behind including vision letter. I've got the scriptural dorothy behind it. I've got the conditions that the unbeliever must meet what we must be. And then i have the i haven't laid out of what a what a what i would say to prospect or for work a will march. Yes it is really say andrews. I've done is young. You know being born in the by being born is the image in the image of god all people do recognize have no idea they think they just have no idea how wonderfully beautiful way are in non site. They'll yes you do you in your experience with using this approach questions from from prospects are contacts in his early stage because they were raised in a catholic or a i get i get lots of questions. It doesn't matter their background. They don't usually bring up their background so much. This has been my my experience. What they do is they bring up. They got a they. Bring up my my preacher once. Told me this okay got. Yeah and they don't really. And i could pretty. Well guess where they came from whenever they tell me especially when they studied your pre said this. They pre said that i know where they came from. I ignore all that i. I don't want i don't wanna get into argument with them about that and out usually i know i I know enough about how to steer them back. The real concerns and the real concerns is a relationship with jesus. Christ i could care less about their denomination. I'm more concerned about latian. Ship that that christ as i like i said i did. I really detest tracks In fact i would call this a gospel track. That ain't a gospel track. That's what it is and you know. I have found that this worked so much better in. It's more attractive than a gospel. Track people really pay attention because they never heard it in those terms ever heard it. You think it's very good or yes. Yes dale you know when. I think what we have to. I think the courage to approach people is where i seem to have my issue. Is that i you know i just pray will god give me the right words to say or the right questions or you know just to come out in. Ask no i mean. Sometimes i'll miss an opportunity. Just because i'm afraid that i don't know what answers to questions if you know what to say eve one ninety percent of the battle. Yeah if you say you in the other ten percent is your courage really is it's ninety percent of the world best i I developed this long time ago. In fact i developed under dr tracy and i gave it to one day and he said now. That's the best thing i've ever seen in my life. I said well this came to me one night. I said you know you're teaching. Dr tracy was a a man and howard payne university in both bill and i both addicts even though we were admitted years apart in now we both had this man and he. He was a christian philosopher. An influence me a great deal of how to think out of how to rationalize about christianity and And he added. I just spent a night and brought this all out. And i handed it to knock refinded several times since then but i had to. He said that's the most beautiful thing heard. He said this will fly. This is what christianity is all about. And that's why i i used to. This is my plan of the plan of salvation. Any questions. anybody else any questioned so anything. We've studied so far. Knock crazy new judge. One spiral was this. Bill said dr tracy and in his bottle question his test was right. The plan of salvation in fifty words or less. Well this is more than fifty words or you you this actually. The actual words that you learn is two and a half pages. I think you can learn two and a half pages you know this take you more than two minutes and beeper. That's right they'll listen three and a half they'll listen a couple minutes on internal there s right and especially when you ask them permission. You know i've got a good story takes about two minutes. It will help solve your problem if you let it. It won't be. don't wanna hear it. you're asking permission. And they say yes. They usually listen if they say no. Then i won't bow up to or doug because we have to be all the conditions or a or a winch to happen in those conditions. I gave them to you. they have to recognize. They have a problem then they have to knowledge. They want to fix the problem and then our job is to give them the gospel as the solution to too big the problem. And then we'd have to make that gospel relational that's that's the conditions and we don't need any of those conditions it won't were none of that's right and i do not believe. A track is very relational very mechanical. And just i detest those tracks. I really do. I know we talked about in counselling tonight about you. Know using the gospel track. Boiler got i thought oh lord. They're not gonna like it. When i get would work out guy to be a one years now. I don't think so. I don't hear your. Here's the bridge. Here's the bridge is very simple. Do you believe that. Jesus christ israel raised from the dead. And do you believe that he slorc of your life. That's the that's the bridge. Yeah yeah eh sailing bridge i a me. Only you got some audiences. I will say. Yeah show me the evening. Well even if they want to be saved. This is what i saying. I think this right here. This is what i give them. My whole romans. Ten eight nine. That's it ninety ten. I mean nine and ten. That's it okay any questions. So let's talk about anything Y'all have i i. You know i'm bill. Bill has is saying you know must be so good you and all your questions are been allows. The teacher don't know as soon as well you may. You may statement i k. Remember if it was jubilee. Class are in one of the may have been at jubilee class. But you made a comment one time about. You're not you're not a freighter. That believes in iraq sugar or something. No now bill and i differ. Oh mad okay. yeah. I don't believe in the rapture and i gave my recent sport gave my reasonable route. Were night There's really you know we don't have to go through those again but it. Yeah it has to the biggest problem. I have is that if the beginning of the rapture was really a modern view. The began in glasgow. It began glasgow scotland and was buying a young lady by night. Ma-margaret maddow and one night. She was in a in this eighteen twenty and eighteen twenty. She was a A plymouth brethren meeting as she got up now this was a teenage girl. She got up and she prophesied. And here's what she said she said You know god told me that there is going to be There's going to be a removal of the saints of god. The she didn't call it a rapture. She said the removal of the saints of god followed by a time of great distress. She didn't call it. The tribulation followed by a millennial. Right ballo by the coming of christ And then You know the end of the world. And that's what she said. Well that probably would have never gone anywhere. If it wasn't for the fact that the preacher our the pastor of that church just happened to be a young man by the name of john darby and he was a young man himself and he took it in hook line and sinker. Now that probably would have never gone anywhere except for the back that he came over and eighteen fifty six to the united states and he met a man who we who well-known is white l. Moody out. Dwight l moody by this time had never ever preached anything about a raptured before eighteen fifty six. You'll buy nothing and disturbance about a raptor e. Spoke a lot about being dived. Even him he had his publications going. He had the moody bible institute going in chicago at that time and he was a worldwide evangelist. Everyone you why don't moody back. Everybody wanted widodo moody in their down and so for some reason him in john darby had this marriage together in which john darby influenced him about Rapture theology and then all of a sudden white. Oh moody started acid not banja list and because of this influence started teaching it preaching it and it just took off. That's why i have a hard time with it besides there's a lot of biblical reasons. Why don't believe in it. Also but that is really a modern view in that came from a young girl. By the name of margaret but now mcdowell a mcdonald not mcdowell mcdonnell. I'll get it right on. Donald is her name's stars a teenager and everyone took that theology. And that's why i have a hard hard time with the rapture. That's just one of many reasons. There is an ethical reasons to me for this reviewing it greatly. Oracle's i just kinda remember that top last off rely at the time. I think you just kinda shot right by accurate nets historical reason why i don't believe in it. There's a theological reason why don't believe in it and that comes from matthew twenty four and i s loans Fourth a fifteen through seventeen but i've been through that before. Yeah i just. I just have a hard time with it now bill. This i'd in wore his time. We don't we don't disagree with this. But in your catholic. I hang here all my life heard it all my life ever since i've been in the church my church first baptist church curb bill was a pre-built lineal rapture and it's all i ever knew hours that's all i ever heard england tokyo or some other order under northern. Well that's where that's where it came from. It came in eighteen twenty starred in eighteen twenty. That's just some are you malaysia. Wait i never you what it meant minute. I heard it. But i mean at this is funny because if you look at the church you'll find nowhere in church street. Any of that ever been said at up until eighteen twenty. That's when officially began at. Just i just have eighteen hundred years of history church history with none of that apps the closest you ever find his kili azam and it was a sec. That was rejected by the church. Kelly s just it was a sect. That believed that There was going to be a thousand year reign of christ and that ad. In the in the century there was the attic movement and it was a group of fifty people and the church read heartily. Yeah thousand that's the. That's the word. Kelly acid means a thousand. Now it's greek linden. Yeah healy as a means of thousand. The greek word board. And then they were called the kelly ass ticks in And the church route right rejected them and that was the only time you're find anything close to that Other than that. There was nothing in church. History might not even luther. Not even calvin not even the anna baptist. You'll find nothing of that. Oh you know i'm I am. I have a new. It is not agree. It's not on. It's not boast is not many any of those is called. The view that i have is it. Technical name is called s. Ken logical realism. And that means this that Wherever you see evil increase the the goodness of god is is also increasing in fact the reason that increases is because the goodness of god his increase. And it's biton it. It's fighting it. Tooth and nail. An old world is building up Time and space is building up with the goodness of god but the equally there's there's an opposite Horse biden it. He unseen round an evil horse. Paul ball named ryan powell these powers powers of darkness. Don solve this in in terms of light and darkness light darkness or moral terms in the book john. In especially in the revelation darkness means wrath. The wrath of god. Light baines is love in his goodness. We wanna live in the light not not in darkness. We all talked about that. Wrath of god living in you know we're once children of rat that's in the vision letter now. We live in and light particularly true in that time before it would be what now. I'm sort of stable true in the time before. Christ see the darks because right now. I believe that we have. I think you're seeing what you're seeing if in washington if you're award bearer of the biggest kind in the world is spiritual warfare at its worst but i think also gods god's love it's at its best at its worst. God's love is at its best. It has been in america. That's for sure years. Yeah you know. These are perfect. Think now but i believe history is moving towards the consummation of the new creation. That's where it setting and god is in the business of destroyed things he's in the business of restoring things and the way that would net the bible look status right now. We're in exile. We've never came out of axa. We don't have a home per say we're not citizens of this world right now. The no we are we we arts but we we have a citizenship in heaven. And it's going to be a new creation with it. Were that's where we're heading. And we are the first fruits of that you christ was beginning of that and we are his first fruits of that of that new creation. Y'all need to understand what that new creations all about. Heaven is not going to be our home. Evan is just a as a temporary station. Our home is gonna be right here on earth because god is going to recreated and he's going to use a fiscal body or has to live in this place. We're not going to be happy to be disembodied spirits. None you and i were never meant that we were meant to be physical in heaven and earth is going to be physical. If you've ever read the great divorce you ought to read it. Because his c s lewis is one of his best work in which she says that Indian avenue north are solid. They're solid. God made heaven and earth heaven and earth where united they were united. Like this and then wins. Man's sin separated like this but not totally and then he's gonna bring it all back together again abner. They're going to be united once more and what a day that will be a wonderful day that will be. We have yet to see the wonders that he is going to at burroughs. I can't even imagine when it's just they just sends chills up my spine. When i think of the wonders and beauty that god is is in store for us in this new creation. Believe me right now the saints in heaven. They are not they are not. They're restless because they walked to be build the way they were intended and that is a resurrected body. That's right how long the lord. How long does bill said. he's absolutely right. Oh as long. Because that's quoting psalms twenty five you gotta go back to saabs twenty five it he talking about See se som- such. Excuse me. i'm repeat the passage again long. We if we believe jesus working all week may remain show up. Yeah okay all right. What he's talking about he's he's using the a professional song that's goes back like this. The king has been a way to the team has been away or a long long time and the king is coming back down to jerusalem and there there is since the first thing. He's going to send his hair older as what he sends air older and an arrow cops. And there's going to be a trumpet blowing that the king is coming and the trump is blowing and in this era says says the king king the king lord lord god the king is ear and there people that are sitting on the wall of the kingdom of jerusalem and these people saying who is the king and they says the lord god he is keen and what happens is there's a perception that goes out in meets him at way. That is the normal way you meet a team and the that procession may seem it doesn't go on down the road. He comes back into the team. Doom and it and the procession him where he sits on the throne. That's what paul is talking about. The dead christ show biko s a welcoming committee and then that will be committees going to welcome him home where he cuss abon earth. That's what he's quoting sure. Twenty five twenty is all about used me psalm. Twenty nine twenty twenty nine you. That's the song talking about. And that's what paul's houston. He's quoting from that psalm. And he's Any showing that this is a welcoming committee coming out in matthew twenty four Versus thirty six through forty talks about you know to be to be in the field one will be taken. We'll be left a tube in mark in the book of mark our book. Lucas says that one will be on. the rooftop. won't be taken one. We'll be left. And and jesus. I if you read the context of that. He's talking about in the days of noah. He talks about an in the thirty six. A lot of people say does yes it. Does they say it. Does they would look. Who's going to be taken. Now is the saints and who's going to be left as the bad guys. That's that's the rapture you'll become bureau well that that's not how i was taught about it. I was caught that his pregnant. You were utah. Twenty four psalm. Twenty chapter mattress. Todd was a rapture remember. I well it is about the second come but not about the rapture fact. You don't wanna be the one taken away. That is the people going to judgment. You want to be the ones left exactly right. Greek words pair. Lombarno and apple mia farrow lombardo. Instead of the ones that are that are taken away from me and meets. The forgiven wants to forgive once or left. Wants taken away or take away to judgment. It's the same word that use when pilot takes away jesus to the cross maryland. One thousand nine chapter of john for over here on. Alamo i think exegen you. Can't you cut it. But that's my belief. I believe doesn't mean it's right. Thank you for sharing with us. And thank you for the efforts. You answer now. I'm glad i'm glad you decided to do this on a sunday evening. But we had six or seven of the eruption something. But i appreciate it appreciate having the meetings and all of the material that you presented. Were you make. It seem like it's not to yourself. But i know it is well i thank you and i really enjoyed it and i hope y'all georgia to run your long. Well there's impact we're going to do. I think i'm going to do on the unseen. Realm went in january when we start up. It's either january that were i. Don't remember we'll give me a guest. Okay i guys. I appreciate it. I'll send us out. Thank you so. I j thank you. Thank you everyone scale dale by but oh by the way it by the way anybody who wants to donate to our deal. Please do our website. Understand the god who speaks dot com. You can donate or give it to give it to bill or me or john or jd. Now we we. We need we need. We need some help. Getting our Our video podcast off the ground i.

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Mob Meeting in Philadelphia  November is Mob Meeting month

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Mob Meeting in Philadelphia November is Mob Meeting month

"You are listening to gangland wire hosted by former Kansas City police intelligence unit. Detective Jerry Jenkins a welcome wire-tappers apertures back here in the studio gang manoir garner a good friend and Co host Cam Robinson on the line with us. I Cam how you doing Gary how you doing. I'm glad to be back. Good you know we. We were talking on the phone about something else. I've been really tied up as you know. Count on finishing that movie. Often that have been working on the the Spiro Sabella War Sabella spirit war here in Kansas City. We've got our mob cans any mafia film festival. Coming up on November the Fifteenth Sixteenth and Seventeenth. That'd be two screenings of of Gangland wire and black and Straw man which is basically a history of both of them between the two of them is a history of the entire scope of Kansas City organized crime and then Saturday I have a must show my new movie. It's called brothers against brothers. The SABELLA Spiro War and We'll we'll show that and then take questions afterwards afterwards and I'll have an FBI agent friend. Bill Lousy will come over and he will He'll do some answers some questions and I'll answer questions. It will do kind of a panel. They whoa interesting little video that my co host of the Film Festival Terrence o'malley who did black and Straw man He he's got. He got his hands on a short dinner. Fifteen minute videotape of a guy who was in the witness protection program that came back in the Kansas City and rope around with his imported out. Different sites like you know. He's in his actually. He was not a Bob Guy. His Dad was a mob guy and his dad. Got Killed. they they went after him to And he ended up testified against a couple of people in in went into witness protection but he drives round. Say My so my dad kill a guy here in and my dad did this. There and my dad did that their parents. Hey got it from family members. Several years ago at this is this all happened. Back in the sixties and seventies and he's talking talking about and it was the eighties came back into town he said so committed suicide actually but seven or eight years ago. His name was Freddie anybody on him but he you know terrance is going to show that. And then we're just going to have a panel discussion with Housley and myself and terrance about the things that he talked about. CNN that he is dad did kind of implications of organized. Crime Families The family members of you've of people in in Kansas City. Because you know bill always says that reason we don't never we've never had any really good witnesses that came in and Witness protection was because it's Kansas City. Such a small town everybody knows everybody and their extended families know each other. And so if you go into witness protection texted Freddie did. He didn't have a choice. They were GONNA kill him he might as well get something out of it and killed his father father. Yeah they build killed David and they were GONNA to kill him He he leaves town so he's got this large extended family that have to live with this kind of the onus of him being a rat for the rest of their lives. And it's like I said they go to each other's weddings and funerals and see people each other at church and you know the neighborhoods and their kids go to the same school then. The grandkids go to the same school. So you know it's a little different Chicago's a great big city or New York northeast areas such huge areas. That you can you can move across the borough to another borough and never even. Here's the of that person again and disappear but not in Kansas City. There's even move out the suburbs. There's no way to get away from each other again the city so have eggs etela'at Cam and I were talking about kind of the the genesis of the mob influence in Las Vegas and The difference in what wide is Chicago have so much influence in Las Vegas and the New York crime families have have had little interest in it when in fact the New York Cam families are some of the early players out there because we were talking about this and he. He found a really good resource on a meeting that was held in. And I said you know. Let's do this podcast on that. Nowhere to get it out pretty quick some people. I want to thank me. Get my paper here. A lot of really good messages on there. I check the youtube and you get a lot of a lot of really good followers. Gary I really really liked feedback that you get. Yeah we do we we really. You've helped a lot. They seemed like when I should be jealous. They never said they like me. Really appreciate many how from. I'm always talking about a cup of coffee or shot the beer from from Bimbo on the APP Johnny Good. He bought me a shot and a beer and he said that he thought the podcast was great and he had just taken the printing Calabrese tour. We're up in Chicago and he loved it so you rape tour go to Chicago. Look up the Frank Calabrese say I think it's called the family secrets to her. Knit family. Secrets tour. Yeah I understand is really good we got. Here's another guy from Chicago on Youtube Called himself joy always cigars in the nameless lack. It was joe shoots how. We're not sure if he has a cigar store what up there but he said I'm truly enjoy Elaine. Every new show while outside smoking a cigar. Even though it's forty degrees in Chicago keep up the good work. You can work together really well. So that's thanks a lot there. Joy Cigars and Perot you cigar smokers out there and think about when you gotta go outside when the wife makes you go outside to smoked Cigar cliche but you know that happens on the side. I smoke garage when I'm working on the car doing doing my work. Yeah all right. So you're out there when you're bandies from the house to smoke your cigar. Why stickier there it is stickier Benzon and in and listen to another One of the PODCAST. Tennis Ball He said He he really thought. That Cam was really knowledgeable about Organized Crime and that's true folks. He he really knowledgeable about it. It is great researcher. And if he wants knows me knows is where to go. That's that's the key. I learned that law school. You never have all the answers. What did you do know how to find the answers? That's the most important thing is the skill to find the answers and Cam can find the answers and they got those stories. We've got some other things Mark Ryan he's regular. Thanks a lot. He's last Monday. Said thanks a lot for for helping out correction on that Mark Ryan said thank you for all the great podcast and he said he was helping me out with pot without a pocket expenses so thanks Mark Alan Turner. He just says thank you but he does have suggestion and I and this is what I think I mentioned to you camp but I think it'd be a pretty good story. There's some there's some resources out there for this. He said his uncle was an AL capone attendant named Hi Mate loud mouth living. If you I'm allowed mouth Lebanon. It was a pretty big deal. He was a big deal. Well there's several things out there on him. He has a pretty good story he had he had one of the wire services the wire service back then thirties and forties. He's on up the fifties a over from Wayne and bird and They they delivered the horse racing result. So you'd have these different it Betty Parlors dipper cities. We had a wire service here in Kansas City when that came in to a cigar stand in the take horse racing. Listen Betsy you would know. The results of of the braces throughout the United States is Kinda before sports. Betting was so big and it was mainly horse race. Betting if you're going to bet on awesome some contests that was was not happening in your city. there's a school of thought that says that's why Bugsy Siegel was killed because he was messing with. Chicago's IOS wire and some. Obviously some people say the East Coast but but Virginia Virginia Virginia Hill. She she worked for Chicago when she was it was at her place. So there are those who say that Chicago had a hand in in taking out Siegel. That's over that wire service visit. His family. Member took part in it. All right cool so we may have to look into -solutely hi mate Loudmouth Levin Another person Frank Sanchez. and He loves the PODCAST SEPARA- M- somewhere in Texas so keep them coming on Youtube. 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My bride mentioned there but he's my I talked to Berry was while he's a great source. Yeah so anyhow. That's that's all. Thank you as I've gotten. Let's get out of the show here. You know what we were talking about this just before we started recording recording. Here it is I I look back I think I I know in my movie. Gang Lenoir had one of my experts. It's about skipping from from Las Vegas and I had an expert Michael Green who's a mob historian from Las Vegas teaches that. UNLV out there and he he made the quote and of course put movie because it was too good not to that he understood that Chicago and the East Coast mobs had all had a meeting meeting decided to divide up the divide up the action. These coast mobs head could take care of all the action coming out of the Atlantic City Casinos in Chicago. We get everything coming out of Las Vegas which makes sense but it's much more complicated than that and and that did not that made happen about the time that we serve the search more here in Kansas City you know I went into Carl Dilemmas House and help search as searches house at found all laid notes. I didn't find him. Somebody else found him actually found all the notes that he kept up on keeping books on how much skim wise and who was getting how much you even his books on how much it cost him to fly out fly back I guess he got reimbursed burst or something and as I said the booby casino. What are you going to keep books for you pay taxes? That scene is in the movie casino where they storm in his house. And he's the A guy who's Tuffy to Luna has a heart attack which which didn't know that was. That was one of those guys on scene. Was Gary Walk in the door. Yeah Actually Debbie Debbie. If he didn't have a heart attack he was cool cucumber man he was like he told his wife she was getting upset and his now he said Sandy just settled down. He said you know these guys are just do their jobs. You know I said why. Don't you make some coffee for the officers. So she starts making copy we were there. We got there about eight o'clock. Tuck at night where they're at four o'clock in the morning man with a log night for the delude family as she ended up leaving his said sad was eight cents. He got lips that they made him lead pretty early and and so it was a long night for all of us but it was really a long diaper TEPI. You know what a little unknown things. They're searching around there. Find a different things at and he knows they're gonNa go through everything and he tells whether the FBI said he knows his name was Shakira A.. J. said he minds good down the basement. That's where the good stuff is and then ten. That's where they pay the notes that it Kim. So so anyhow I digress. You know start talking about. There was a meeting a little later. What I thought there was a meeting? That would have been about I said about the time or slightly after the time that we served a search warrants in it start getting exposed. I don't know right after we served a search mortgage they they didn't know how deep deep at the FBI was into eleven at that point in time but what they did to buy divvy up this things what do you remember about that That meeting where was that was back east somewhere. It was in Philadelphia. It may have been a little bit earlier than what I found The information on it basically came from law enforcement and some underworld sources and you. They can make and pinpointed as well as one thing. But apparently in Philadelphia there was SA- gambling in in Atlantic City was nineteen seventy six and it would have taken them a while to get the casinos built so around that time if they were running guys out of Las Las Vegas than they'd want to look to Atlantic city. So sometime around. Seventy eight or seventy nine in Philadelphia. There was a meeting and I guess. Yes the eastern families the families in New York and Philadelphia. A six group had decided that they were going to leave Chicago out of it and it just gives Chicago Las Vegas and they were GonNa Take Atlantic City. Chicago was not a part of that decision. They're kind of miffed about it. I guess that's against the commission rules to kick me out so they called this big meeting to be held in in Philadelphia and you had members of the Outfit they're apparently genevieve's the Bruno family in Philadelphia and from what I found it says the Lou Casey's Gambino's the Colombo's and the bananas all had people at this big meeting. If we're a big commission meeting would have been would have been the case. They said that the guerrillas were not there. I guess the just just died recently. So things were a little bit of a little bit of an uproar in Detroit and Detroit should have been there because Detroit had interest in winter schenker in the ladner land. And they they they were in with in Saint Louis in right right more shanker he was. He was a lawyer out of Saint Louis. Yeah that's barbecue. He was a guy. That one digress to for but there's a on my youtube pages of famous Audio Jordan Lombardo threatening more Schenker thinker. Because he owed. He should've kicked back some money to Allen Dorfman and and he just acted like a crazy old man I noticed eh out Eddie outlived. The ball causes absolutely but they got together and it was a six hour dinner. They hadn't affiliate restaurant while Bruno was still alive. Angelo Bruno and they agreed that Chicago would stay out of Atlantic City and they would turn over all interests in Las Vegas to to Chicago. Anything on the street anything that was going on so I I guess that's that's where you hear. SPALATO had control of the streets. And that was I guess he had he had been. There must have been some sort of agreement earlier because he had been running in the streets. For for a long time to let point and heard interviews with Collado Frank Lada where he says that that splotch rod connections back east and that he had the okay to take over the streets and there is a scene in casino. I've not Red Red Casino the book but there's a scene in that where there's some guys checking out getting some money in in the voice over says how to respect guys from other crews got a warning and then the guy's they something about carmine Carmen's left and so they they walk out to A Nicky Santoro. Tony's Balaj character sees these guys out of the out of the hotel so we do have a couple of sources verify in this in. This came the found this and the tribune the Tom's couple of other places so they did have a big sit down. It was a six hour dinner they flew in from from Chicago and all over and Chicago apparently agreed. Because I've never heard I've never heard anything about anybody in in Atlantic city besides scarf. Oh and there were some some fighting between the Gambino in genevieve's about who's going to take over parts of New Jersey and Casey's were pretty heavy New Jersey but nothing about Chicago and Atlantic City that I've ever heard anywhere. Those north these families there is. All of them wanted something I lost of Atlantic City. There's money to be had down there but at the start they made it a little bit it difficult. The Gaming Commission was was up and ready for it. They already had the experience of Of Hindsight of not hindsight maybe bar experiences is in Las Vegas and kind of how that worked when you let him get in the casinos. They're Gaming Commissioner Gaming Control Board was a little bit stringent early John. Yeah I think the politics probably took hold but and and so what they did is a early on. They start getting into all the ancillary businesses around the Casino Zeno and unions and stuff and and they took them a while to really move in when they when they moved in they find they really tight but but it took a while because they were really up and ready for them. That's right concrete pouring in re barb and the restaurant workers union yeah they they really had flooding and that was because scarf had been there since the since the sixties it was kind of kind of a slap in the face to send somebody to Atlantic City because the town John had been dead for a while but all of a sudden it becomes the gambling Mecca of the east coast and and he he goes from from nobody to Real A Real player so it would have been interesting to know who was at this meeting. I think you can sort a spitball who might have who might have been in attendance based on based on different factors in who was who at the time but it wouldn't be anymore than the guests unless you could find some sort of freedom of Information Act and then you'd have to know something to know who to pinpoint to get it. Yeah you know I would you. May You may never know but I did notice that I guess it was the trip but reported that AIDS from Tony Are Cardo and joy. Okay Dow Jones came and we were speculating about that. More than likely at this point in time you probably would have been like Jackie cerrone or somebody somebody. That's what I was thinking. Because he was smarter than everybody. You know he was car does got yeah. It was a car. Does guy used to be his driver. That's that's how he oh came up it wasn't he didn't quite have the Zane to be the boss up there. They they looked at him for that a little bit but he never had that right whereas marine thing hang in brains to be the boss but he would be the kind of guy you would send on that Lombardo. Possibly because Lombardo definitely definitely spot drove in the Bardo had a relationship Grand Avenue Crew Grand Avenue and and because of Las Vegas splat throw is out there on the streets. But LOMBARDO was in Allen Dorfman's office and that's where all the money was coming from Alan and Joined Lombarno went over there like every day. I've got tons of of Audio from him sitting around they're talking with a dork linen. God you can't make accent. I mean you can make sense of it was just mainly about teamster stop. There is nothing sexy about it. Then it gets blocked her on the phone every once in a while and and then and he was in there one time but that was he was he was really intimately involved with the whole Las Vegas scene I would say from the Chicago cargo area. He would have been the touch the the point man in Chicago I would say when did Roy Lee Williams turnover to Jackie precedent you. You remember the year it would have been around around that time. It might have been when a bit later. He C- he he's getting sick. Yeah and and the whole skim case was going down he had emphysema really bad and it was getting bad nap. He was carrying the oxygen around. And and and then when the charges were filed it was about nineteen eighty. One I would say is what Jackie pressure went in and end in he and and he's charged with crimes So he's got a you know he's got to get out of the teamsters union at least lead that position by nineteen eight hundred eighty one. And he's dying to so then he turns informant and what was really interesting is not informed but witnesses and he died shortly thereafter. But all during this time. Jackie Presser as a top echelon informant for a couple of agents Cleveland. That's right. I'd say they had that thing. Why did they ETA? In the end they had to the three main characters. Bresser Williams an Allen Dorfman two of them were. FBI sources the only argument lead but they killed him just in case. That's right that's right. I was wondering I mean like you said Lombardo would have been up on the teamsters would have been on Vegas Serono. I know he did go to New York a couple times later when they were when they were talking about about he was unhappy with Jackie. Presser performed so I know that surround did travel to to New York and I know Tony Salerno had connections to Chicago when they were looking to get Jackie Presser ahead of the teamsters he talked about reaching out to I up and Serono so there are storms ties to imagine vase and in Chicago. So all who was in charge of Jersey at the time for the Lou. Casey's in the in the genovise had Abbad say in two Turturro who were in charge. The Jersey Lucchessi family. I just it's hard to imagine that the commission would have all gotten together in one ounce as late as sediment on to Dan Risky. Yeah I I think. They've learned their lesson by now. They're really really careful about that. Big Meeting we watch them have ages between us in Chicago and and they were so so careful we almost we had The bureau ahead a bug in this policeman Chicago policeman's house who was a nephew of Knicks? Val actually and he was GonNa meet Joy Uba and I think Jackie cerrone Their ad the bug was sat corky and Corcoran next Avella arrived. They go in. I opens Rome gets there. They go in and they bugged the EPS the second floor room as a Brownstone with three floors. They bugged the second floor. Because that's where the main room would be and that's where they thought it was gonna be and they didn't go up the stairs. OOP had heart problems point in time when go up stairs downstairs and really like on the. I've got the telephone call and it's all in Sicilian and next talent. His nephew called him. Stop name was a set. anti-shia Bola Sola said stompie wanted lambrusco wine and he wanted some anti pasta and he and he wanted to all right and you wanted to make sure that he's other rallies out out of the house. When this was happening and his his son was going to be out sweet what they call sweeping the streets so he said was also a Chicago policeman when he was out looking all up and down the streets trying to get finding surveillance so these guys just are super super careful when the hand the meetings you know? That's that's that's something I I run into lottery about Chicago and I know that a lot of a lot of listeners will be familiar also you find former Chicago ICAGO police officer former former deputy. Former whenever you run into these guys. You're not too far removed from from on a former officer is now working for the. There's I don't mean to speak ill of the Chicago Police Department but anytime you got a city where you have heavy mafia correct presence. You're going to run into some correct corrupt officers in some capacity whether it's politicians whatever but yeah it seemed to get a lot of them. Injured Hock Doc was that corruption in the entire city to every Chicago was pretty endemic whether it be The police or the courts sir. Whatever it was another thing I'd like to talk? Let's talk a little bit about this Street crime in a bookmakers and everything thing in in the Las Vegas that donates blood. Throw in loansharking. Tony spurlock throw. He had money on the streets. I talked to a guy they've already Davino. Who is originally from New Jersey but had gone out to Las Vegas so no say in the in the late sixties at thank early seventies and was a career criminal rollout there and just kind of freelancing out there and doing different burglaries and he fell in with black rose to hold onto wall gang? And you know we're doing the high end burgers for with the murder for him I don't think Tony Ever Win. It went on. That's one frank. ladell lead print collateral Crew and by the way in the side Frank Gugliotta and Ernie Davino do not like each other today. Davino never talked I'm Frank Al Franken talk but Ernie Davino never talk now. He didn't say making references to the fact that Kaleida wouldn't witness his protection and talk but he doesn't like him today and So that's that's just an interesting little thing. I think. Contributing riveting factor. But he was. He was Deng Buddies once I got. He told me once I got hooked up with donuts block throw. He said money they just start coming my way he had some of his own loan. Shark money out there he said and it was just like Tony owned that city and what you became part of his crude. Who'd you got what you wanted? It became known in that underworld that you report is bilateral crew and everybody else fell in line getting tipsters hipsters to set up Marquesa whether they be fat cats day could police in some kind of card game or or somebody that had a connections in the hotels. A new where somebody had big station money or jewelry or something in a hotel room that was out on the Strip splat rose crew could find out this stuff. They had that town wired. And so I guess like you said in the movie if if an independent crew came the town and tried to do those kinds of things and especially if they better not do anything at the stardust or Tropicana Bianca's Kan city on grapple cannon in Kansas City Chicago and Milwaukee and Cleveland owned the Stardust but in some of the other hotels independent operators rarest came in and tried to do something but they found out about it ever got to be called into Splat rose gold rush juries my understanding and either got a piece of the AX. They they hit the road. It's interesting how the net little subculture. How much control? It's such a small world. I guess especially especially sit legs. Las Vegas is Kansas City. It's not that big so if you come in and make some kind of a big score everybody's GonNa know it and everybody's GonNa be start trying had to figure it out and it's GonNa be long before they know who it is because they had that town had that town wired up man just across it seems to be a small small all world anyway. All these guys know each other pretty much across New York across Chicago Here talk he knows all these guys and the information that you know a guy. I like Greg Greg SCARPA. He was pretty high up at anything. Anything happen any time. Anything happened to cross city. He knew about it so I think that so. You can speak to this better than I but it sounds like the the underworld is relatively small world as it is. Everybody seems to know everything that's going on. They Seems to be a grapevine. Whenever jobs can they seem to have a good idea? What's what's when when it's when it's significant the job? Yeah when it's a job take some skill probably got to know and there's just not that many those it real independent operators because you know two ebola jobs they come out of a city go to another city and pull a really good job. Well you got you got a case of place you gotta figure out you know. What's we're taking it and how you do it and everything and and so you got? That's why you gotta work with other people from other cities. If you'RE GONNA travel out to down to Phoenix to to to do something then he probably ought to connect up with somebody down there to get the lay of the land and even though you may have a tip is still need to know you it also local knowledge that was they say on the golf course got local knowledge about the golf course. You need some local knowledge about city and once you start asking for that local Oakland Knowledge in the word spread that you're down to do something. Yeah that's you know it's funny in my job. I'VE HAD TO GO TO CLEVELAND WHEN I've had to go other places to do different audits and things and first thing you do. Is You touch base with the local guys around but it's funny how that translates to any kind of economy whether it's the criminal or whether it's any kind of like you said whether it's a golf course it's it's criminal. Economy works really really so one. More thing about this Philadelphia Bob Kahn prison. That's heard this before. That's the that's the meeting. Where for it came out that it was allowed for Angelo Bruno to be killed? So let's talk a little bit about that the Bruno family and and how that that went down. Well I from what I understand. Bruno's was probably at this meeting As far as being killed I think that that was. I think that that had little bit more to do with. The genovese wanted more power in Jersey and that was that was where they were. Kinda you know. I think it's like like Shakespeare. Can anybody read me of this. Meddlesome this troublesome priest and that was when Caveney grow went and he did have Bruno no killed and then when they when I went up to to get his approval to be the boss they said we. We didn't tell you to kill him. We said just do whatever you had to do ya. uh-huh and and so that in getting rid of Bruno who was tight with the Gambino's they supplanted him with with test and then with in with scarface who are both tight with Jenna. VC's so. I think that this allowed the if anything. This meeting allowed the genevieve's to to clear the way by by keeping Chicago out of the equation and by getting the lay of the land to see who is going to be what so that they could think could really see if they'd he'd have to get rid of get rid of Bruno but yeah that was definitely a play by the by the Jenner. VC To to get rid of the Gambino probably probably. I paid it paved their way yachties form to move into Atlantic city. Big Money at the casino thing is. There's two different levels levels of crime going on and and everybody can't handle that upper level that that upper level of of getting involved with a huge big corporation of you know one hundred million dollar corporation hundred million dollar Business and getting in therefore enough and then being able to siphon that big money out of their you know these these guys go out and collect. Loan Shark debts and and Take Sports Batson and go out and and strung our people and extort money from people. They aren't the same guys you don't do that stuff without going. After people in a corporation where there's a hierarchy in square John Employees and it takes a lot more sophistication Asian. You're more than the bosses that can be in control of that and they're gonNA have to pick sue specific people. I was always surprised about this slot role. Oh thank sending him out to do that but they see. We're forgetting about lefty Rosenthal. Oh yeah he was. He was a guy with the knowledge he was a guy with the connections connections. He was a guy you could go in and send Orlando. SPLUTTER was not a guy you could go in. He was more of a straight guy. Yeah you you know Chicago always had that set up. They had gus Greenbaum running casinos back back in early day before bef- before Howard Hughes bought them all and they they had? They had a run in the street so they always had that street level guy and they always had and it was usually Jewish guy running the casinos in a street guy. You know Italian go out running the streets so that was going back to two Mo- Dallas and it was the always had the Jewish guys running the running the casinos and then they had the street. Guys it's an interesting inside there are comparison is Marshall Guy Fino or Johnny. Sally and Gus Greenbaum Modell. It's back yeah Dan. In modern times it was lefty Rosenthal. Frank Frank Rosenthal and donates blood. I didn't really thought about it like really interesting you know. One of the wiretaps set knicks valid. Talking to with with their their under are there mold out there. A guy named Joe Gosto was really ensconced ended the Tropicana and he was kind of an unknown any ended up turning Witness for the FBI died of heart attack kind of the middle of the trial so he but he was an unknown totally before this. But he I got. I lost my train of thought call between us and and so they were talking on the phone. Thank you talking on the phone and talk about who they deal with out there and said what about modality said I can deal with him and Joe. Oh Gosh does. And he's a good man modell. It's we can do business with him and you know what that means. Says we can do business with him. So that's how it works. We kind of left Mayor Lansky out of this. He had a lot to do. I think early on him and Frank Castillo yeah And in New York families I believe getting their hooks in Las Vegas Casinos. You know that there is that hit on Frank Castillo attempted here. They tempted murdering agreement was that. The guy called the Chin Vincent Gigante Any any messed it. Up and Frank Costello refused to identify or testify or anything in Enac Z.. Got They had hired a guy to do it in Franken's del even apologized To the guy and said you know I remember how it went down but But but I was walking past said. Sorry Frank Yeah that was it so I got that backwards but anyhow Chin went when they When they searched his pockets at the hospital they came out with a piece of paper that had They figured figured out it was the stardust. Because it had some totals of the take from this the craps arguably the the slot machines and lead the craps tables and the cards tables. They were something but had three figures and they went out to the Las Vegas Casinos. Wasn't that big a deal in one thousand nine hundred whatever. Eighteen fifty one hundred two. Yeah and ED. They'd be a match. The totals Tropicana exactly to those numbers in the ad written on that piece of paper in his pocket. So they've been they were really heavily. indium that casinos back then. Yeah Yeah and this it is. I've read in a couple of places that when they were passing the gambling laws in one thousand nine hundred thirty thirty one when they were building the hoover dam that was the capone and capone and his is numbers guy. Jake Jake Juzic. Yeah Yeah He. They did a lot of lobbying they they really pushed for the legalized gambling in Vegas. Because that was when they were building the Hoover Dam. They wanted to get to reach out and get a couple couple. Things established out there and they really saw an opportunity and up until there were some key. Casinos built in the later time before right around the time bugs you see over there and a little bit before there were Chicago guys who had a presence and it was. It was Siegel who really decided that casinos could be a major factor out there but it Chicago a smaller presence and they apparently really lobbied for the Casino legalization station. So the mob and gambling. Whether it's Atlantic City or Las Vegas. It's just you know even Vanna. It's just the mob Bob and legalized gambling is just. That's just where it is really. I guess the kind of wrap this up. I guess it was an open city las is named for Chicago or these any mom family to try to have some action going. Anybody could do whatever they're big enough to do. But then after this is meeting then it became delineated between Atlantic City and Las Vegas. Would you say that. Would you agree with that. Sounds like this. This was the final the official nail in the coffin. I think it was trending that direction but once Atlantic city came into play they really wanted to draw the line in the sand. And say I think that in the New York New York had basically been out of Vegas for a while but they wanted to really really delineate them really put the final nail in the coffin. Say you guys don't come to Atlantic City and we will absolutely stay in Las Vegas but like you said you guys were were were excising. Search search warrants and everything so basically Chicago was more or less leaving Las Vegas as it were and so they weren't going to be in Vegas Anyway but but New York did not want Chicago Kaga reaching into Atlantic City. So this meeting was what made it. Official was big having having seven seven different mafia groups present. And that's that's just major and he didn't the only commission members weren't there were Detroit and Buffalo. But you had you had every other commission member the patriarchal charters were not there. But but that was that was just their thing. They didn't really have a dog in the fight out. But every other every other group representing the country was was at this meeting. Basically saying well this has been great cam. I appreciate you digging this up and and brightness to my attention and I get I could add my humble symbol little Opinions my little bit of experience. I had with that with this casino skimming thing and you know Las Vegas Vegas down. Las Vegas has died out for for everybody After Desert Schwarzer served and everybody went to jail in the later middle eighties. And I don't know what happened in Atlantic City. I'm assuming that they have of continued to make some money out of different ways out of Atlantic City but sure it's changed so much and then Donald trump came in and kick them all out. I guess I don't The bankruptcy court kicked him out. So I've been ninety city. It's kind of sad and tired looking compared to Las Vegas it just never really developed and then back east understand her. So so many. 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Local Hour: Chris Cote Walks Into The Ocean

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

42:30 min | 4 months ago

Local Hour: Chris Cote Walks Into The Ocean

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And i will talk to you about those in coming days and weeks but i do guts and ask crack and fancy lad. Were arguing about masks right before we went on the air and i didn't know what that argument was about. Well fao she The news yesterday was there's a new new variant out of covid nineteen and it's a threat to all of us and particularly younger people. And i'm just confused like i feel like we went back to normalcy way too quick. I'm not certain how to go about this. I don't know what to do. I'm still wearing a mask in public. Chris wittingham i believe is not chris. Cody is i don't know what to i'm confused and scared of this variant man. I'm telling you you've been scared of all the variants you've been scared of everything and i don't know whether we've done this right or not The washington football team at the height of all incompetence doing responsible things that are kind of understandable somehow through the experiment. Everything else like i get. Why black people simply do not trust the idea of government putting anything in their body and so it's hard for me from my position to say even with the science and the facts. Hey it's the best thing for. Everybody clearly educate yourselves like everyone needs to get vaccine. And then you know black people are looking at what's happened in the history of this country and everything's getting back to normal. You're not totally sure. If lebrons taking the vaccine or not and and young people are saying my body's not going to be affected by this and my people have been through decades and centuries so i get the perspective even though runs again size but what was happening with you to as crack fancy lad about the specifics of you guys feel obligated. Still to wear the mask and i have. I feel like a little bit of a jerk. Because i have in the in the last week stopped wearing a mask in places that don't say please store mask if i don't see a sign i'm vaccinated i've been told that if i'm vaccinated i can go places and keep my distance so i still feel like a jerk though in this tough spot where i've stopped wearing a mask in some places but i feel like a jerk while i'm doing it and witty like should i be no i don't think so because like fao she came out and said the cdc came out and said if you're fully vaccinated you don't have to worry about social distancing and you don't have to worry about wearing masks so you're free to do as wish i just kind of do it for like almost performative reasons at this point and you also kind of have this. Well if i'm gonna wander around public it sound like i'm stopping and having conversations with people the mask does not obstruct to do what i'm doing public so i'll just wear it for the sake of wearing it really but allowed. This is up to the establishment. Obviously because Yesterday i walked to my optometrist. Which is about mama halfway. So i didn't have a mask on a walked in said face coverings and i felt like an idiot. Yeah like oh. I didn't have my math. There's nothing worse than that. Look of like you should have a mask on right now while mr. There's things that are worse. But at many many many things chris anything hundred pool millions of the things much worse than a look judgmental. Look put it on the poll. Please chris cody and then walk into the ocean. Got gary cole- lebatardshow put it on the poll. Honestly honestly are there. Millions of things. Worse than a judgmental. Look that's all. I'm going to mask the big key there. You're giving them millions. Because he said there aren't many i think initially there weren't any just put that on the pole before you leave also fancy lad. Go ahead and hit you. You hit yourself with that sounder chris. Switching hand is a fancy as crack. Put this on the poll as well has anyone described. They're wearing a mask as four performative. What does that mean. he's just putting on a show you're saying you're virtuous signaling with us like i'm an honorable chap is saying she walked the produce. There are times where. I do not like how i've sounded when i've been at like what i've been like to my family. Hey we're sitting outdoors at a restaurant. You don't have to wear a mask or stood outside. You don't have to wear masks even indoors. We're all vaccinated. You don't have to wear a mask. And i hate how i sound and so like for the reasons of not wanting the bad like it's actually interesting. The kind of political dynamics on either side of the vaccine debate because you mentioned how there is like the you know the the racial element. But there's also a political element of conservative people mostly intertwined. Jim you can't even tell them apart any more. I naively blissfully when we were doing all this stuff and espn. I was always saying. Hey i talk about race not politics. I don't know politics. i don't like politics. i like talking about race. I think that's interesting. And the two things became so conflicted that you've eventually got one. One of these. Groups is just running on a platform of white repression and dragging all these other people might have valid points different viewpoints on conservative taxes or whatever. It's dragging them all into the racist. Been it's what it's what god trump to the top of the tower. And it's what. I'm telling you if you watch showtime thousand nine hundred s the reagan documentary if you watch what it is adam. Mckay did on cunanan on. Hbo another movie. That's out there. Oh just adam mckay on vice. The movie vice. You will see over the last forty years. How trump wasn't smart enough to do anything but tap into the the white repression as a common man. Are you shitting me. Like that guy reaching common men. And it's just because he was pumping the mill on the fuel of white repression. Became impossible to tell apart when you were talking about race and when you were talking about politics right down to a stupa goddamn mask like that. That becomes argument. I've never been more embarrassed for the intellect of my country. Never just watching. What's playing out like. Oh my god. We were embarrassing before for greedy and departures reasons but now they hate us because we're assholes and not just assholes dumb asshole like the dumbest dumb ass holes are honest to god. It's not even you. It's so much worse than you. Because you're benign. You're just greedy lovely. Just greeting right. You're just a greedy as you're not a racist. I appreciate grasp. Why are you still here. Do we have the camera. That will kick you out of here. Jessica and i need to forgive me on this okay because one of the great difficulties. The last few months super hard. I've told you already when i should have just said to. You is look. We've replaced one hundred executives with five and we've erased a hundred people worth of infrastructure with five and we did it we won. We won on friday and saturday. We won like we we the in. I'm not kidding you when i tell you. We had ten percent of the workforce that we used to have in terms of support thing off the ground over the last five months but man those five or exhausted dead. billy. I don't know if he's gonna make it. Just it's been tough and so we've made it to the other side but i don't. I have to ask the question. Because i don't know do we. Now wittingham have the ability to still film. Chris cody walking out to the ocean. Like i don't see a cameraman out there right now. Thankfully we are still active in zoom. Jessica is back in new york so we do have a zoom meeting open so chris is going to call into zoom and we'll at least get the visual payoff going into the ocean so he will record himself. I worry for his phone if he goes into the we gotta do it either. Way this point. No we've gotta take all the way out on facetime. Chris i want you in the actual ocean. I want coming back sopping. Wet ruin his phone. Just hold the phone up over your face. I want this to be freedom. But because jessica's back in new york. I have to bring her in awkwardly because what we did on saturday the reason it was so over joyous for me in short circuit for several days is because everybody was here like this thing was a pulsating beast of creative content. And it's just because we were all stuffed into this place. But jessica had to go back to new york and she had something to say on the mass stuff. I couldn't get her in the way that i would have when if she were here. So what was it jessica. I'm sorry to have gotten gotten to this the long way. It's all good dan. I was just gonna say that. I think the mask wearing thing from the beginning has been regional like a new york. People are still wearing masks. And when i was in florida last week it was completely different and my boyfriend and i were actually talking about how. We both kind of stopped wearing masks in the hotel because no one else was but then when we came back here we were immediately like back into the mass. Where habit. So i think it's still like a very very regional thing. People listening that aren in florida or may maybe are in states. That are still pretty strict about it. Have a little bit of a difference of opinion. We should not be surprised about what's going on down here in the middle of the pandemic. no one was wearing a mask. I'm serious. I went to tampa. I remember coming back. People were mocking me for wearing a mask. I felt it was awkward. I felt weird. I was the weird to me though everything. That's playing out here. Both symbolically and in actuality right because this is the height of where america has been divided on everything not just masks but everything. What jessica is saying is absolutely so masks are regional political cultural. You could keep going keep going around all and then somebody shouts. This is racist. And you're like no it's the other two or it's neither of them or it's none of them but the argument starts getting convoluted because anytime you say. Well i think this might be race based whatever it is. Whatever the argument is it doesn't have to be about mask and then people tick down all ten of the reasons i remember to. It's happened to me at espn. Barry bonds was swallowed swallowed by the steroid stuff. And i want to talk about what's happening now with the cheaters in baseball and i was hosting. Pti and i was saying well. What is the difference. Between berry. Brought barry bonds and lance armstrong. Who's about to host the espy's like why can i talk about one of these guys. Just jumping on his neck again and again and again and again and again and the other guy is hosting the bees. And i get in trouble for saying it for for merely for merely pointing out like what's happening here and i'm saying that well one of the reasons is race and one of the reasons maybe not the chief reason maybe seven threes in. I'm saying one reason and what happens. No it's not race. it's absolutely not. Here's what it is. Barry bonds is an asshole. So's land barry. Bonds has been very obviously surrounded by circumstantial evidence for a long time slants and we kept going down one. Barry bonds the numbers. The numbers matter in the sport of baseball. Yeah lances only famous in this country because the sport doesn't matter because he's he's winning like he's he's winning at something. We're not accustomed to winning at i. But so and you've got further and further down the list and you saw as it was happening and it's like wait a minute. There aren't a whole lot of differences between them other than race. So i this happens all the time with all of this shit but we've been talking about it for so long stugatz around here. It's made us unpopular now. People are just tired of it like every everybody's woking now. It's just the two extremes yelling at each other and so wise this show still doing it. And the reason i'm still doing it is because i can't believe that after fifteen years of you guys yelling at me about all this stuff. I ve vastly underestimated the problem in this country like by by leaps and bounds. You were yelling at me. The whole time that i had it wrong and i was like at one percent. What just happened in the streets was at one hundred. Percents got so. It's just a look at this. This is good right here and this is just. Give us a play by play. Play by play here. Chris is currently on miami beach. He is walking through the sand. He looks like he is at the tenth street lifeguard station the hot pink one. It's very cute. Good for instagram picks. He's upset he looks like he. Oh he's taking very white thing of. He has his draft kings hat on because he's a company man through and through and he has walking towards the beach now. he is almost at the shoreline. He is walking over some seaweeds and he is about to walk into the ocean. Chris can you tell us what you're doing right here you. This is about as far as i'm going so not time now. We're live on. Now take them off. They take them off and leave them on the beach. You're you're going to go in there and what happened. What's he running away from. You gotta currents i mean claiming he has easies on and then he walked onto the sand. Put it on the poll. Please toning. Can you walk on the sand in easy's chris you're all right. Let's see this hold on a second. I want some buildup. So you've taken off. You're just wearing shorts. You wouldn't dare take a game anymore. Is cut the break and cut no. We got twenty five minutes. We got twenty five minutes and and you wanted to go live and there's other problems that happen when you go live. Sometimes we end up in a dumpster. Wow i saw. What do you want to be rejected. Chris him in chris. Can you do this for me. Can you please do on a man on the ocean interview with that guy. He's not gonna nobody's that friendly. Nobody wants to talk to you on the beach. He's gonna think you're weirdo. He might think you're hitting on him because that happens around there too. You can't hear me these further. Then he looks right waiting splashing careful. There is a riptide the other day. All right chris. You're we gotta follow you here. Just take us inside your head. I've always thought we don't use this space out here. Well enough now we can with your face time. I don't wanna be inside his time. Let's take us out there and tell tell us what you're thinking and feeling right now it's nice out right. Yeah make him sign a release. Chris make sure joking exactly. Yeah tell them you're on live live. We don't wanna julio jones situation. We just had gone okay. That's it that's it so you've got the beach to yourself. There's no one else out there. It's like it's like there's a lot of women. I don't want to be clear reasonable to for that. Chris i mean look in heaven seventy years ago when your father. My bureau back to the show go in the water. We need the pay off the payoff of you in the water i was just in the wod we get in the water heater wet and know that no. That's not deep enough go. You're not watching you. The mind reader live broadcasts work. We are watching you. We see the you're lying. why are you such an. Why did we leave. Espn for this. chris. Chris thinks the right way to do that was by simply saying. I'm under tony. Call him we need this enforced or send that security guard do me a favor go out there with the security guard tony and drag him into the water and make sure that we get the payoff on this. What is he doing. What did he just hung up the phone as being chris. I'm also concerned for his phone as well because if he actually goes into the ocean with his phone. Yes i i you know. I don't responsible for that right. Can't hold it over your head. It's dangerous game. Dan it could still get away. Debris gets in there. Maybe tony can go out and film chris going in that way. He's we'll go his phone. But i think what the theater of the mind thing that he wanted to do like that. He was in the water so his phone started. Malfunctioning is now offering. That's what he's trying to do okay. But we're not theater of the minding on television right now like everybody's watching him. fake it. i which of this part of this does not understand. I'll go get him clearly. All of it. All right let's regroup. This is one of the things that happens when you're on live and don't have any commercial breaks as we learned at the height of tension between between our executive branch and us during the middle of freedom. 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What else could have a snake could have harmed someone like you guys do. He's cookies. chicken breath could've literally knocked and so he we arrive in this place where now we get to play with the playground. The entire cleveland to the beach we could. We don't have these corporate liabilities students. You remember when you were how many papers you decided to put you. Were holding up. What was it more got. You wanted to get on highly questionable and you standing on a windy roof out there. More god's mo a our guts. I held that son. I had to sign seventeen waivers. I mean it's always a terrifying. No like no now. How do we work here. And knowing that he was holding up a parasail and that could have been dreadful for us and so we do need these guardrails but we also need and this is the tension. Because here's the other thing that was funny. That happened about the art. In that night when skipper came in here just worried about the health of somebody. Just legitimately worried about the health of an employee we settled in for the audience expects the joke to land. We gotta get to the joke. You'd think chris cody would understand that. Look at what he just did. We gotta send tony out there to go get the jones. Tony now appears to be chasing chris. Cody or jason cops. Chris sees the best athlete around here. Tony will catching up there on rollerblades. What was going on. Tony is in. Somebody's gonna get hurt here is what's tony stronger than kristen will tackle him and now he needs to be in the san antonio yes you need to complete this mission grab him. You've got him down. You've chased him down right and if you don't your government will disavow you guys. I got chris cody right here. We're going back. explain yourself now. New studio no no back to the beach but we did. Just get the payoff. We did just get no place. Hold on this is escalated. Alright is unnecessary. Put it on the poll please. Somebody who's remaining to put it on the poll. Suck it witty. Yes or no just one word we got the pay off and i will this time on behalf of the audience just because we've only been on television or broadcast live for a few minutes. There will be other opportunities for him to be incompetent and be sent into the ocean. And perhaps next time we will get the pay off of him in the actual in the actual ocean for now we will let him go and there are some things in local sports that i wanted to talk about with you guys including dwayne wade. Going full utah. Jazz like he has moved to. La his left miami and he is giving a g. q. Interview where he saying. Yeah this was the better business move. This is a guy who's Dwayne wade is good at everything. Dwayne wade has learned how to be a professional in every realm he's got a rockstar wife who he says flatly right in a way that got a lot of blowback says flatly. Yeah i am not meant to lead in my marriage. I am meant to follow. She will teach me through love and through a woman's touch a grace that you probably don't find in the alpha sphere right. So dwayne wade gives voice to lead in my marriage. My wife does and men shouldn't lead in their marriage. Your wife should and through all of that while he was here. Dwayne wade went through a restaurant falling apart on him. Business learning that thing a marriage falling apart on him with a with a. I mean i don't know what happened with the details of that marriage but his ex wife turn that into a very public messy thing that involved her being in the street like asking for money and i don't know what happened there. I just note was messy and a different time and dwayne. Wade's life as he tried to navigate. This crazy sports sports fierce began. Forgive my on this. But dwayne wade is one of the most important athletes. Well most important athlete in the history of the city period. Like not one of is yes. It's dan marino has fallen to second and it is no indictment. I lived through those years. But where dwayne is going to be able to lead dan marino was never able to join weight is going to do with the second half of his life. Dan marino was dolphins president. For minute said na na na just started doing ads i just. That's not what he wanted to do with his life and look. This is no indictment of dan marino. Because the list. Is dwayne wade. Dan marino alonzo mourning dan marino. Build a children's hospital. He's done a lot of great work. This is i do not mean. I'm just doing the parsing at the very top of who's been the best for this town and the reason dwayne wade is fascinating to me is because god we had him on. We've had him on at the height of superstardom as he entered into it right as he was whatever. The biggest thing is we all see. Oh this is going to be great and big. It's gonna be a national superstar. We saw from the very beginning. We were doing either. Weekly or biweekly. A show with him knows a weekly show dwayne way. Yeah and what i remember is the grace and the touch. That had in going through photo shoots. Because i was doing magazine stories on him and his life was changing and he would just always come through make sure he talked to the guys in the locker room. Talk to the janitors made everyone feel the same whether you are important person at the shoot or not an important person and everyone used to say to him. Don't change don't change please. don't change and inevitably you have to write you. Have to and growth is change. But just so much was bombarding him and man he navigated pretty well and you navigated pretty well with the help of a woman. A starlet a powerhouse. A powerhouse and she buff him up with her love their love. Those kids are proud of. There's those kids are strong of. There's you know those. They've had some love in that house. That dwayne wade's telling you let let the woman lead That love has made kids who could have other. I don't know right. You never know how balanced someone is what's happening in the personal life of someone. But they've shown us their life. They've lived it they've created. They've expanded their brand on social media. She's written books about difficult subject matter. She was at the height of toxic climate. Change in hollywood that that burned her out even though it seems pretty obvious. In retrospect nah simon cal smoking cigarettes in there. Probably if you weren't more valuable like that's the part of the business that had to go in the toilet but it was easier to get rid of gabriel union. They've been at the center of all of this and now he's saying i'm going for bitcoin money because hey miami love you lot super grateful but you guys weren't. He's not saying this part you guys weren't offering me in terms of what i actually want my next forty years to be what utah is offering me which is new kinds of currency New leadership right because arison riley. That's old guard. That's in your seventy right. I gotta be honest. It hurts because wayne does mean that much to this city and to have him as part owner of the utah jazz in seeing them in. Utah cheering for that team. And i understand. Why obviously but it hurts. It just seemed like such a perfect natural fit. That dwayne way would be part of the organization for the rest of his life. But you understand why it happened correct. Yeah i do. And i don't know how magic can be at him because he's choosing himself. He's choosing to continue to be a powerhouse throughout. What is the next part of his career. Oh i'm not mad at him he'd shows what's best for dwayne wade. It just it's frustrating. It seems like it should have been an easy thing to get. Don dwayne wade part owner of the heat. Who wouldn't love that. I mean miami would love that and it's just disappointing. I guess i'm not mad at him. Do you think that. It's difficult for fans to understand and differentiate the difference between a player's playing career and then their business opportunities and that those things are there different and and then it's just an emotional reaction that we get to that that's what it is. Though and business can be very rational it could look. That's the that's the source of tension in much of what it is that plagues the bridge. The lack of a bridge between customer an athlete being paid millions is that right. They're no they're entertainers. I pay their salary. They're not allowed to be human political opinions. What are you doing. don't bring that into my life. I just want the escape of the emotion. Don't bring that real life shit in here. I think like. I think about michael jordan. And i don't know of bulls fans were angry when he took an ownership stake in the hornets. I i was really young when that happened. But we don't think about him as being a traitor to chicago right like he left chicago. He's not really of chicago guy anymore. He doesn't live there he doesn't vacation there. I don't know why you'd vacation there. It's cold most the year but we don't think of him as a traitor. So i think that like cortez who might be a little bit hurt by this and some other heat fans you have to kind of rationalize that there's different things that people do throughout their lives and they're not all personal jessica. We just saw. We just saw portion of the story last dance was a commercial. It was a polish sneaker commercial for nike we'll talk about nike's now signing dak prescott making him the most valuable athlete in the nfl. That is working for nike. It's the greatest movie i've ever seen. You're calling it a commercial dare you all right. Put that on the poll. Chris cody at lebatardshow. Last dance Greatest movie you've ever seen or nike commercial. Put it on the poll. And what i wanted to say about michael jordan you just saw the tension between management and player empowerment in chicago. Michael jordan was probably under pay the entire career and at the end as they squeeze the most out of it as reinsdorf dwarf. Who is now hired. Larussa kept backing kept backing jerry. Krause to god's until at the very end valued employee michael jordan. It should be easier than this. Didn't guys just tell you. Squeezed out goes to washington yet. Squeezed out no but it gets worse. We didn't cover this in the documentary squeezed out and gets worse and the most powerful athlete. Any of us have ever seen now. Worked for a polling in washington powerhouse. Systemic power rises above the labor washington and at the end. Michael jordan was an employee at the end. He got run out of washington. They milked the last bits of dollars out of him. And the most powerful man in sports with no black ownership says you know what this i'm going to be. I'm going to be the black owner like get out of here with that. I'm going to be the black owner because at the very end even him squeezed down by the machine and employees. He's like i'm gonna go do nike. Now i'm going to sign the athletes. And now i'm going to have and so he birth quietly really because he didn't give opinions to any of these things. What you now see. Lebron which is oh. I'm going in with my boys not conquer in hollywood. I'm conquer in media. I could get obama in my barbershop. I don't need any of you. People like none of you can be my own economy. I can be. Espn now what he's making isn't good enough yet. That the content that you're getting isn't good enough yet. Let's see if some people can tell lebron james there in that world as he and dwayne trying dominate that world with gabrielle union. Let's see if somebody can tell lebron james. Hey you need to elevate the content the you're in the content game you wanna play in this space. There's amazon to write with a studio on the side because you're making so much money but your content needs to be better can't just be. Hey i'm lebron. I got here right canopy. Though i mean i'm not certain it just been on jazz. Han wi tell wants it to be what. I think he it to his meeting. Oh world dominating thing where where he's in the room with vessels and they're not not equals that bezos has to go to space for twelve seconds for them to not not be pulled. This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when your printer is running low and sends you new cartridges. So you never have to think about hank. Save up to fifty percent. You'll pay less than five dollars a month for inc and never run out again. Find out if your printer is eligible and enroll today at hp instant inc dot com conditions apply for details visit hp dot com slash. Instant inc. spotify. The one thing about lebron is in basketball we ultimately know that he that if he's at his best he will win. Right if he and anthony davis were healthy this year. We all kind of thing that they would have come out of the west in hollywood. It's reliant upon people going to the box office. He changes number two number six at least in part for the space jam release. That's coming this summer. That's big freaking deal. Lebron james that has to be a hit. But he's gonna be one hundred million but chris it will be no. It's terrible you guys tell me. I don't think there's any way i look. We're doing the math all different in this space right so i don't know how you make money internationally streaming through the studios. Everything has changed in the last. Eighteen months in some businesses will learn the inefficiencies. And get a lot better than some will. That are mismanaged. Fly into a ditch. The movie industry like that can't miss. You give dumb dumb. America dumb dumb america happy cartoons and like the script doesn't matter this is marketing porn. Like i'm gonna give you celebrity. After celebrity nostalgia after nostalgia. I'm going to go into some archives and get some clips from other movies like that movie can be total shit. It'll be famous shit and in the kardashian generation. That's that matters in the content game. Like i can't see that movie failure. Isn't it more important that it's well received like obviously if it's well received a lot of people will see it so it will make money but if it could only be one of those things when they rather have it. Just be no thought of as a good movie. Make money hollywood make. Obviously i know like the company that made the movie wants it to make money but just in terms of public perception if everyone that goes and sees it is like that was really good and it doesn't really matter much money makes it that point. But what's the point you'd rather have done. That's well. Ron would rather have it. Make money. I'm just saying no in terms of public. Perception is more important that it's just a a movie that people like. But dan talking about getting stuff made right. You get stuff made in hollywood when it makes money right and i mean international box offices massive as well like lebron is a huge world superstar in theory. This should crush all over the world so if it's a hit then he's on his way but he's kind of like it's more important than him having won the finals. This year is how for his future. Is this movie succeeding if the space jam if the if the movie sucks but on the answer larry. Markets with shoes merchandise action figures and then overseas. The movie makes a billion dollars. There's going to be a space jam to in less than eighteen months. You can mark down right now. It does not matter if people like it if it makes enough money. That's why we have like forty marvel movies right now. This is super interesting to me from a number of different angles. Because i do believe. We have criminally underappreciated. Somehow lebron as he has made his way across these fifteen years with everyone milking economy often cities. Espn everybody underpaid by any definition in the way that the measurements are done in a salary cap. Sport underpaid yes underappreciated. I think people are are starting to lebron's regardless what i'm telling you is that he and wade are not interested in just now or even the last fifteen years. They're interested in the next fifteen. They're interested in a seismic sea change at the top of that sport where they just saw as the new jordan's the power that they have and they just saw as it came together broke apart from whatever the reasons are that those things break apart and their union never broke apart. They're looking to own the game like literally. Lebron is gonna own one of these teams and it's gonna be a side project and what i'm telling you is as i see some of this playing out hit me. I don't know if this story. I'm about to tell is true. Okay so i. I just need when you guys talk about how things get made and whether or not you can keep getting the made if you get bad box office and this is where i think lebron is immune immune to bad box office. I'm about to explain it to you. But i'm gonna tell you a story in the front end that i don't know is totally true. I've heard it a couple of times. And i got like actually do some reporting on this on the back end but i need. I need something to absolve me on the front end to throw away your at least it credibility and rent blaze here is something like to call reckless speculation year. Get so. I have to talk to somebody who knows more about this than i do. But there was a period when sasha baron cohen was the biggest thing hottest thing everyone wanted him and he signed allegedly. I think a three picture deal because he could have had any deal that he wanted any any deal that he wanted at that point. That point was. I don't think it was allie. I think it was after borat and it was a three picture deal and from the way that i heard the story. The first one flopped. I don't know which one was the first one. I don't know if it was the dictator or whatever it was and then what happened after that was a series of things that made those contracts worth nothing and not even sasha baron cohen at the height of power and comedy and fame in. Hollywood could topple the weinstein's who were running the place that you didn't have the power or the lawyers as an individual artist to actually make your way into the machine and blow it up some but not even sasha baron cohen. A comedy genius by any measurement could do anything one bad flop done. You tell me who's gonna say that to lebron not want to be in the room with lebron for future deals you after movie flops. You tell me all the lists of studio executives. Fan boignes weinstein's as agents running that town agents running that they're going to say i don't want to take the meeting with lebron and maverick about whatever whatever they want. What ever they want to make because lebron can get obama. Get outta here. But it's also like i think it's nba players recognizing like how much rich people fan boy over athletes like. They will cease to become businessmen in the presence of athletes. and now i think owners are rightly making it. A part of their pitches. Kevin durant is in brooklyn at least in part because of the other stuff that the owner of the brooklyn nets. joe. I put in front of them right. This is not like i presume. Dwayne wade was pitched by ryan smith. The owner of the utah jazz. Here's a we can do with you. In a way that like. I don't know if micky arison and pat riley putting together a sales pitch what you can do outside of just be a figurehead for the heat. Which i think is all. They're comfortable giving. What beyond that chris. Beyond that as the documentaries come out and espn is buying something on derek. Jeter and as more and more documentaries. Come out. Where lebron and tom brady. I don't know if they've already gotten into with what they're going to be. Four companies making all of this stuff. It's going to be disney. Netflix and amazon and apple metal arc media Money being made around here money being made around. This is the game that we just got here. Force stu gods. And now as you'd see nine part series on michael jordan does that and it could be a commercial and stugatz will say it's the best movie ever made. Well look who's in the room now. Maverick carter and his production team and they wanna do a nine part documentary. That really shows you what happened For ten years with lebron. James and dwayne wade his partner and they're giving up all the stuff that they didn't give up before and now we can do and lebron owns all of it. He's floyd mayweather. He owns all of it. He walks into the room agents not in charge legacy media not in charge. I'm in charge. Who wants to bid bezos. You who wants to bid on ten part series secret access to lebron ten parts is a little bit much. I mean but if you have too many flops there and that will stop happening. I don't care who you are. The bronze used flopping. But i don't care who you are. You have that any flops dan. They'll stop walking into the room. Say well you just call the ten documentary. The greatest movie ever that one was the jordan. Is the only person you ten park doc on not. Oj not anyone else. Just michael jordan. That's it he's the only that's worthy of you. Guys not see that stugatz was just trying to angle for the flop joke. Like he was just he three minutes ago. He was gonna find that credit interest except brady twelve part doc for brady that he's play course that's one of the many reasons i've found this run in this reign of power interesting because it's about to get more interesting because these guys aren't going to settle for dancing on stage eleven years ago and building a dynasty the change. The last decade of basketball changed the entire sports. It's not enough for them. They want to own the sport they want to own it. Dwayne wade and lebron. James wants to own the sport. They're done with being employees. Michael jordan was employees at the end. They want to do what jordan did. In every way that flop joke would have been so much better about three and a half minutes ago yeah. I think you're right about that. Yes but you got it in anyways and it wasn't forced at all it was a sandwich of shit it was bad cliche. Here flop joke. It dies repeat the same thing again. Ladies and gentlemen. God's experience live. 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Local Hour: Post Round Reaction From Lake Tahoe

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

47:33 min | 3 months ago

Local Hour: Post Round Reaction From Lake Tahoe

"Support for this. Podcast comes from invent together. I bet you didn't know that inventing activity by black inventors peaked in eighteen ninety nine and it has never recovered black and hispanic college graduates patented half the rate of white college graduates. That's just one of the reasons why you need to know about invent together. When our patent system gets more diverse our nation will get stronger and more successful. Find out how you can help. Diverse inventors and unleash economic opportunity at invent together dot. Org someone yo. The boy who the hell seven boy. Somebody named tony knows which we got the skip jumped ship because he knew we would sail to pirate radio with the been crew. We got wind in our sails in the sky is blue devil lombarno so much work to for the pirates radio. We are post round here. At lake tahoe. We all played around a practice round. We're not in the real toward baby. Step it was real. It was real next year. Was it real real to me. None of that felt real now. I'm so sad it's over. We played with philip bailey. It was the three of us stugotz. My dad and myself philip bailey. The lead singer of earth wind and fire and mardy fish and what a delight. Philip bailey was but i'm not sure he felt the same way about us. Did he like us he did. I know his white. What a delight she was. I know she loved us. I was riding the court within the entire. I trust me. When i tell you he really really liked your dad man. He had a great time. Did he sing for you. Yeah yeah we podcast. Just just just just romantic. It was great september. Play the hit higher. Pitched than i can mimic you calling him. A one hit wonder. No oh i know. But that's arguably his biggest or their biggest. How'd you feel about the day. How'd you feel about. I despite not playing that well especially real early on. I had the jitters I enjoyed the hell out of it. I thought it was great I sank like a thirty five foot. Putt which was the high point of my day and I just enjoyed the heck out of the company was great. The vista idyllic. We've got seven. Goodness me's from chris whittingham today. The views every feels better than you hitting shots chris. Wittingham saying brilliant and he's he's not a real golf savant so there were a couple of times where it wasn't a great shot but he's still said because he's just but it's just yeah. It feels great. I judge the flight of the ball. A couple of cave. We did that to mardy fish as well. Mardy fish can kind of. Give us like a patronizing. Yes so people say that. It's a good shot. But i i really no. It's not walking down on the way. Looks like a professional everything about everything about that. Guy gives off professional golfing. Hit a ball. That wasn't i feel like every ball was crisp. That he hit there wasn't one like we're like he lost it to the left like he was maybe off the little distance here there but it was. Every ball was hit chris Yeah he's a really good golfer. Won the thing. Last year was a scratch golfer. Greg i would say the highlight of your day was not that pot i would say was the tee shot. Sixty shut on the. Yeah but that ended up being way past the whole i mean it was on the green short of the whole. But that's the that's the ball. That's that's true. You're right yeah. It looked like it was going in. It was tracking to the whole little. Did we talk about yet that we just referenced it like my dad drilled a thirty five forty foot right. That was forty four. I must have missed that. I didn't see that. But i will say there was a couple of holes. I think that was when we lost you. For a whole. Oh really. I was a little worried about heart. Where's wittingham son is beating down. Explain how you notice that christmas okay. I saw him in the distance. I was like i know that. Walk choose we just left you behind but apparently you snuck off to get some food. When i went to go get air conditioning and house. Some cold sodas. Because i was just dying out there from this. Oh tony and i had the experience of there. Were not enough cards for all of us so we wrote on the back of cards also. Now friend of the program. Louis are videography. I feel so bad about this guy. Was jesus cuts books. A left and next thing. I know louis is flat on his stomach. Having got my daughter it was a sharp left. Though you did. I don't it was a great day. It's not every day like you're just playing golf. You're on one hole. There's kelsey mahomes another whole. I heard you say at one point. Michael strahan's if you just drive by. It's like this jerry rice. You know you know how he knows is insane round where i was just trying to be in the moment we bought beer and i only drink one. I had multiple beers in this little cooler that i bought her on the second hole. I drink one of them. Granted my dad killed my portion mask. There means that i had three. I was just like yeah. I don't even need that. I just like i'm just like this. i'm just. I don't know why i don't know what they had to do with the nice course but i was like you know what else is like drinking. Here's what else i really enjoyed about. Fifteen sixteen holes were regular golf holes quiet polite galleries but then two or three holes. We're like raucous. Yeah with the mute pumping music in the loud in a beach scene and boats got up to the seven fans of ours showed. Oh there were more than that specifically that followed us for the whole time. Greg sang consoles are fun. I it so it's like the waste management the sixteenth hole. Which is the most exciting gaul. It's because the fans are crazy. The rowdy they're chanting trying to get you choked. Want butts right. It's not quite golf. But you want more holes like that in golf. And i think the players due to the players say they loved that tournament where anything. It's a sports atmosphere. You know it's like being in an arena or stadium for a minute somehow. It helps you. Relax. that's where he goes out your one and it was almost all four the my grinding ten years from now sixty. That's right exactly. Replace the devils where you're gonna complement me we interact. Yeah no actually no area for that. I wanna hear it. The other the other rock is whole was the whole where you're drives were caught on camera and that's also the whole where you almost killed someone so it's not quite the compliment your home or yeah but they were tracking my swing on this. They put something something on my driver. And i just felt a little extra in golf. You have one little thing in your head. It's like yeah so yanked killed someone. She's alive. Though i missed there. Was that the guy that was running the thing that got gave you the champagne my way in my wife. I was like that because so so for the audience that would not have seen that whole. It was similar on your front night. Which is the back. Nine here at lake tahoe correct. And there's a giant inflatable champagne bottle because the whole is sponsored by champagne. Company stugatz drills the inflatable champagne bottle and they give you a whole bottle of champagne bottle of champagne at cracked. It open on the on the tee box and you were bad. The next three hole slugged some of the campaign. I was really good right up until that point. And then i was bad and then i brought it back towards the end but the guys like. Hey congratulations you hit the champagne bottle. Dude you're champagne by the way my ball forty yards. Yeah was we just go do it again. Let's just like mad. It's over europe. Set right we can go again next year. I feel like this year has been a smash hit schmidt. I need to stop tonight. We've been smash hit. And and i feel like we'll get the invite practice even for the proper tournament next year. I mean stugatz might get in the proper tournament like you have to be a legitimate celebrity to be in that. I don't even think. I'm pretty sure phillip like i heard from filippini's catty that he's not even playing in the main tournament like yeller phil belly. Ken play the mentor. Seventy years old. He was telling me he has. He just doesn't yeah like dover. I think once you're invited you're sort of in the club right because at that meeting they mentioned there are only seven new first time offers. I mean who wouldn't come here every year. Oh celebrity can we talk. We kind of did a podcast about that. We were in a room. The last night it was kind of just the pre-tournament players invite and it was basically just a room that we were in and it was just like justin timberlake. Aaron rodgers michael stray and like it was like fifty people all the celebrities that are playing in this term. And we're just in one room and it was just like it was crazy. How adam feeling was just sitting alone in a corner sneaky. Look in the so good looking. People don't recognize them like right. We have. I don't think he's kind of he's running the circles as yet to be there has to be a guy. No one's talking to of the celebrities added feeling. And i didn't see that coming. You're right more people were talking to robbie gold which was odd. Yeah there's various fraternities in the tahoe like group. There's like the baseball players. Head coaches coaches significant coaches. Going brian kelly a little bit on the outskirts of that group. Weird right right. Like he's able doug peterson are like the the cool guys in that group. But they don't like it right. Coach hang out reporters off night for kelly. You sat next to us in the outdoor function that it was said not our table. No coaches it was really cool. We had the three braves pitchers brag about this you would small telematics and grabbing all in the same superstars total full matic's four right at one point. There was a magician there at won't point. I was watching the magic. Next to greg. Maddux and then kevin neal and comes up taps. What's this guy doing. Like kevin neal and greg maddux. What is my life right and then all of a sudden out of the blue. Somebody's singing in. Its justin timberlake singing. Ymca i mean. That's a neat moment. Getting back to your braves point. Though mike as a point which is if you're always always look old then you age great because if you look like you're forty five when you're twenty five and when you're forty five forty five and i feel like john. Smoltz perfected that. Because i didn't recognize tom. Glavin and greg maddux looks like a different person as well. The john smoltz looks exactly the same bald with the goatee. It's the same. Look tom's ivan. Did look look older than i expected. But maddux looked exactly the way tim to and the way he would the glass of red wine sitting with a little table right next to shirt painting the corners interesting painting in the middle of a meeting. I feel like one of the things. I've been most interested by his how much some of the guys take it. So seriously are unapproachable on the driving range. Or just dialed into their rounds. I'm actually excited. We're recording this on thursday before the proper tournament begins. Just how much game faces come on starting tomorrow. I i mean i was talking about it. He like they take it seriously. The more he wants to witness and sodas easy second favorite mardy fish. But there's a lot of guys at who know they romo's the favor. Yeah we should morty fish. We should we were saying we should look just run around the courts like fish et. Come up a big sign mate or something but chris their their their athletes so their competitors right they take their shit seriously but i think a lot of guys no. They have no chance of winning. So they're just out. Your kelsey knows. He's not winning kelsey every time. I've seen kelsey today. He's a beer beer getting on the show. We saw kelsey on the wrong hole today. Dan yes he had like an approach shot. He was on our fair. We run the green and he was on our fairway trying to hit it back to his whole mahomes of the leaving. Yeah i saw. I saw drops before. I saw and social media like a three hundred forty six yard drive on one of martin's dropped that casual he facetime amid it around. I was like impressed by the facetime in the whole well. You're playing. the course of mahomes is screaming. Your name like it's crazy. Respect maher. he's not he's not partying mardy. Fish is here for business. All business sleeping run was probably the most he would let his hair down. Is that a thing to say apple the his hair down with us in this round but like outside of this. He's like i enjoyed. How encouraging of greg. I feel like patronizing though. No no there. is there. Bits of it there was like pardon trying to be funny for us. He was kind of like straight. When my dad had a hundred arch street. Right he yeah he complimented my putting and i thought he was pretty sincere. Now you you. You're a good putter. It looks the as we're taping this just casually looking to my left and i see bret baier of fox news in some. How would we you describe these pants with their green lucky pants with four leaf clovers. God making a statement that room. We talked back. I'm like you don't need to get into politics here. Not necessarily a big fan of bret baier but i gave them a handshake. He walked up. Stu gods like one of those things you walk by somebody like that and you just stick your hand out and shake it. It's just like a cordiality. Yeah we're all in this role in this together fraternity. I got blacked out and then next thing. I know i'm shaking hands. Like i did not see that comedy. What's he dan quayle. No i saw his name on a card. That's always here. Who is the most random per so we should also say most random chris. Cody has been an incredible celebrities. He goes more moulder. Just walk by those random people really serious about golf. So he's like. I also saw mike semi the odds and moulders fourth-best to win it. So there's a lot of like rian celebrity. Jack deers up there in terms of. I think he's wanted like four or five times. So here's a jack. Del clue only meeting your dad. Tony romo plus two five mardy fish plus two fifty mark moulder plus six hundred kyle williams plus a thousand john smoltz plus twelve hundred hundred. So it's a two man race for the odds. Yes would you take more so you put those two aside the favorites the value. We didn't get a chance. Marty fishman no i am. I'm going to bet more but then you have to go for a value. I think it's probably good. We didn't do enough scouting today. I feel like we only kinda saw. Yeah our own thing right like i. I didn't look over. Like the homes thing the mo like the mahomes group was kind of kind of overlapping us in some respects. And i didn't even. I had no idea threat. I did hear like a very loud roar at some foley. At from these general direction might have been one of my drafts for sure. yeah right. it's the bad joke. It was accommodating me. We let it sit there. You thought about today complimenting me. I was spotting some celebrities in that room. Every time i was just like that is what is what is the most random of the brian. Kelly pretty rare. Doug peterson me. Realize like coach if you told us earlier in the week that robbie gould played a round of golf with you. I would have said robbie gould. Yeah that's a random one. He only played two holes two or three doug. Flutie was kind of random to me. He's one of those watched. Abc guy though and watch him play he plays every year. I've seen him sparkley by the way we had the match up in. Rogers was there though. That's true yeah talk about justin timberlake that thing like. How can we address. We did with. We did with kelsey this morning. We did. We did it on the on the show court. He was hammered. I have no wish you saying that. He was hammered report and it was fun to watch kind of like the class clown like he was mocking. The whoever was the american century people were hosting evidently. He's obviously cook close with them so he was the guy in the back of the room like and it was funny to watch. Honestly i was we were. We were six feet from him next. he's day next. Aaron rodgers heckling the room in like we're laughing like we're like the rules a little too loud. Well that's the thing like the room was giving him anything like. I felt like if i kind of peaked over. Because he was behind me. If i picked my shoulder made i contacted contacted. Got a good laugh in that. Maybe you know. I it was. It was magician. Oh we we haven't talked about mortified. Yeah okay so so. Let's listen you guys all approach anyone just about anyone could not approach the why. Why couldn't you approach hatami podcast once and that magician right and was probably a bad idea to have a guy has car tricks visual or visit a podcast. Trust me. he's owning up a three clubs. I be the best magician ever on a podcast. Just made tony disappear another bad. Joe namath. I did. That's a good one. Where'd you get chris. I had him on it so in an effort to make that episode entertaining we just we mean static hammered right with editing and at stanford said you'd better find that comedian and i said i'm terrified of give eating his bad jokes like what he gets on me. There's no way i was going near. The closes with the closest to them was was. I was fascinated by millar funny ad watching that guy. Do core tricks that. I stood behind. Kevlar and that's the close. That's how i acted like one of the people. Last night i went up to famous people in stood next to them and watch the magic and then gave them looks like crazy right. I did it twice. I did when justin timberlake was having holding court with now. I feel like you might criticize our form in terms of like being shameless about going up to famous people to bring them onto the show. We're having a little bit of mini conversation about this if you give us some tips because we were in that room last night and i didn't know what to do disinterred like i don't know anyone here i don't have you're my only in. I was actually. I don't know if you've noticed this. I was following you around. Yeah i was just following you around. Maybe i can get some eye contact and a handshake out of somebody but like in a room of people that we don't know that probably don't like to be bothered when they're having a nice time going what's your what's your what's your tactic. If you ask me like so i give you a different answer. But but some of those people like jay bilas was coming up and saying the low to me was like. Hey what's up. Which is like. I can't believe i've arrived at that place. Career wise kelsey. I have a legit friendship with rogers. I knew would be nice when he saw what he realized who it was it like fifteen twenty years ago. I'm telling you when i first started off which is being like. that's it. Straight shameless did not give shit. And i would just throw around laboratories name. That's the best way to do it. Just hey it's not. Like i would just walk up to people like dan laboratory watching for fifteen minutes like a radio and they would come over because they know dan they like to end. They know the name. And so. it's it's really leveraging. Dan's relationships is your host is also and i suck at this like it's it's just being putting yourself out there to fail and like you just need to be prepared for for now. I don't really do that. Sort of like them feeling like i didn't like this and that's just an it's really uncomfortable. So that's the thing. You just gotta get chris like i know berkeley's going to say yes now right but it's not because it's because dan so just knowing dan's relationships and chris right if you're going to go up to somebody you don't know you gotta just be like. I am blink with the down. Throw dan's name as quickly as possible. So when i did it for hank it was the same thing you got to hang out as quickly as quickly as possible. I know it's crazy but now it's just like i don't mind asking narrow rogers to go because i know he's going to do it now. You know not so much. Because he's my friend he's not. He's the him. Dan friendship and so and i know that dan knows that. I know that. I'm not your dance comfortable that i'm more that intervention but on the reason he has fringe of what is what is the definition of a legit friendship because he's legit friends with travis kelsey and i'm not like saying you aren't. I'm not saying that like you know what what is the basis of your legit friendship with travis kelsey. It started with first off. I didn't kelsey as like unlimited potential to do what it is that we do. You know that charisma. Like pat mcafee is pulled the mcafee and i say this respectfully he's amazing and he's super talented but i mean kelsey can get any yes in the world. Yeah so i think he has a lot of potential to do this on the friendships with him and my daughter have. They share the same trainer so x. p. e. sports at fort lauderdale who coach. Who trained a lot of the nfl guys especially coming out of college to the combine and then to through the draft are they share the same trainer so My daughter was working out with him one day and really. Rachel is responsible for this. I kinda just thought you guys that a little too rachel kelsey and worked out a bunch of times and then they struck up a friendship and then i went up there one day just to see this. I'm like my daughter's working with travel. She was and then he. And i started talking and that she had to got senator. You're like are you really where he's got. Some data worked out with them. It's the proudest. I've ever been to make sure it wasn't like a creepy relationship. I and you know all right. Thanks for bringing it their dead. I get right to the point. I wanted to make sure it was an actual. And then i realized it was. And that's a good long and just becoming wittingham with the way i talk good. Shout to say i do. I could see him being good in media after he's done. Yeah it's a he played by you to like find those guys and then like not become a mentor but like so i also ten years from now kelsey show. We'll shirts no but no it could be the chris cody and kelsey so can show you know so. I think that's where. Dan and i are find some people and i think that's what kelsey likes genuine about it. I think he could be good at something. I have no reason to be i. I don't need to do this. Emerge longer writing. So i'm just like kelsey. I think he'd be good at this. I want to invest some time with you. And then i have no. I don't want to host it with them. Just wanted to be good at it you know. But someone's gonna bring it out of. Yeah maybe it's you shit. This turned now. Kelsey and cody. Well listen he's thirty one so she's not looking to do this anytime soon right well. Yeah i mean he's still have really in seasons road also like it can flip one second to the next and football in particular. So i'm just trying to get like. I think we were talking with this agent. Like to two years ago and travis. Wasn't that into it because twenty nine but now we can kind of see the finish line to your point. Maybe one play away from. Are we getting to inside. Though it would kelsey. Kelsey doesn't give out about this. Let's let's where the relationship came from as working. Let's get more on the round today. Because i feel like a lot of people are going to want some stories and some insight around so stugatz first off. I think all of you had i. T jitters edge. Can you shit soldiers so not only did you like. Obviously you're playing at lake tahoe at this massive event but also now friend and connect to get us here. Nick cazenove has to nick. Nick has been brilliant about his. He is i love you so he has set us up here. Those creepy so set us out into the mike. And i like your now all work. He prepared written introductions for us which he read out great but but did that. help though. Get you ready to play a round of golf. Though because there's people right the kelsey mahomes group is is teeing off near you and now you've got this feeling that this is an occasion. This is a spectacle how how did you. How did the three of you approach that. I was nervous then. Greg were you nervous. I was but when he starts identifying me as a nine time. Pf champion the help. It'll be honest highlight. I was laughing out loud. I mean you're respectable. It wasn't like you know it was. But i did lose two balls on the first two holes and after that i thought i calmed down a little bit. So i definitely had the jitters. Because this was the biggest golf tournament i've ever played in. I mean it's also the only one when he plays the scramble at place or played in another pro-am but it wasn't of this stature. I mean we probably had no no more than what fifty people on any given whole right and those are the two party holes right so but i was still nervous even with five people there i was. I was nervous mid round. Just because like mardi fishes behind me giving me a read on putt. And i'm just like hit this right where he said i'm going to drive like an asshole. Goff's mocked up. They hit it and he was like. That's a good line. i'm like. I don't care if it goes in march happy with the yes. That's either a brilliant from wittingham or morning with a good shot. And i i didn't care what the evidence i kept getting back in and compliments about like how they were like. You're so good. Just need good clubs there right. I know i do need better. It's not backhanded. Compliments they're trying to help you. Not back they were saying. You're good at golf. Like he was like damn chris. Good you are. Bring that up them saying that you're using clubs from the eighties right late nineties. Chris you to help people you know pissed off. Some of these guys would be to know that you play five rounds of year with those clubs from the from the nineties. And you're better than them already. Were saying that you want on one. You might be able on on a given day. I think you could. He did not hit a like. I hit like seven or eight just batch if you if you go off the green that's where you also had a really bad shot that resulted in a in a good outcome for you. Also save your best drive for the last hole i. That's a great. My worst smoked all the drives on the back nine. Yeah you put on. The back loosened up first five holes at the back nine. I was four hundred granted. We were playing like a couple of those were mardy. Fish had me ten feet away for birdie. So chris was asking my scores. It's playing in fucking drive the whole day seventy-seven but that's yet with some of their drought. That's with a lot of help. Yeah so so so to explain the rules so basically on each hole you took. Everyone hit off everyone. I rode replaced all our balls for a second shot at the best best drive. You play your ball from there. So that's why there's various representation of depth your golf. But it was fun. It was great. Yeah i mean listen. It's nice to get. I mean i. I don't hit three hundred yards so to be able to play chris. Drives or maurice rises day. But you also angry at the fact that you don't get to play some of your drives because you hit them well well. Yeah but i just can't have. And as long as kristen legitimately was like five yards behind him on. that wasn't the last hole. It was behind when he actually hit driver. There were a couple times. he didn't hit driver. And i did. And i drove him but with driver and driver on there was one time where i came within five yards. But he he didn't he already makes it look easy just the whole the whole fucking thing. It's it's fair way. It's on the it's one or two putts shipping is like as someone who struggles with chipping like watching him like it's funny because raising mardi a lot right we. We sat in the media room as it was doing. So good looking. He was doing his press conference and like already Civil was asking him. Oh are you ready to be on the champions tour. These eleven years away from being eligible for the champions toward he knows many years away you heard he was. How many days is that. But it's it's it's so interesting to me. Like people want him to like commodified his golfing ability. Because it's so good at it but like this is probably the only event i mean. There's probably a celebrity circuit of some doll. We were playing. Some lady came up to him. It was like it was like some pitch to play in another tournament. He was like yeah. Let me you have a card or something. I was just like he must get this all the time i mean. Why wouldn't you just good at golf. Marty has four thousand fifteen days until he joined the champions tour eleven years. God thanks. I got me before this. Did you really. Yeah how many years you have chip seventy years left in general or better less than a champion. I love chris. Like chris needs a reason why things went to right and you just like shut down the dispensary situation. God there's one on every block combined. Shit i don't i don't even i don't need pricey too but he just gotta do it. I'm gonna throw one hundred seventy points out in the airport. This episode is brought to you by draftkings mcgregor's pori three is all set for ufc to sixty four. And dr king sportsbook. The officials sports betting partner. If you have see has a knockout offer for this weekend's fight draftkings is offering two hundred and sixty four to one odds on a knockout in the first round during saturday's main event if the rubber match ends in a first round knockout you walk away with cash. 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Call one eight hundred gambler or an indiana one eight hundred nine with. Where are you guys feeling. Because it's six thirty in the nba. That's a weird thing in the west coast and you'll just flat out. You'll miss games informed. I informed chris. Cody the tampa bay. Lightning were stanley cup champions and he goes wait. The game happened was out the clock confusing. Would you like that. I have a friend who swears. Never move back to the east coast because it's football sorts at ten one. And then he's done. I'm sure you get used to anything. Oh i feel like you would aggressively like it though. It would take you a second. Just that you're unaccustomed for brief moment and then you go back to normal. I actually thought that i was going to be that guy where i was going to move to the west coast for the sports but then once i became a soccer fan like they're important games. Start at four thirty in the morning. And that's that's not for me but if you're like just into american sports like out even dare say like go live in hawaii. I i wouldn't spend ncaa tournament in hawaii and you just wake up two games happening. It's the greatest. It's awesome if you're a baseball fan though. Like if i was. If i needed to watch every marlins game like a lot of people work still for that. I would wanna watch every marlins. It's a bad example. I mean watching any baseball game of any team. Sounds like a sentence. The judge is going. Well watch out a baseball one hundred and sixty two game season all nine innings more like baseball anymore. I can't watch game after game after game after game inning after inning. It's much. I think even when i love baseball i couldn't do that. Three or four innings. Terrible with all sports you owe is a you. You don't sit down and watch anything right and you'll watch a game you all the game on. But you're like in the kitchen you're in the garage your euros. A man on the moon right. I have to be. I have adult. Add i think. And and i just can't sit still i. Can't i understand that. that's what i like golf braids bokan broken by our phones. We can't. I sometimes like we'll aggressively do that. Where it's like. I'm going to sit down and watch this game. Like i throw my phone like on the couch or something like that because i just focus on game. Yes for once. I'll go in my bedroom and put the phone on the chargers. Sometimes if i'm like let me just give it. How does it feel when you don't have your phone for our feels amazing right now. I have the exact opposite. Which is this thing. Yeah one hundred percent but it's like what like. Is there going to be an emergency. That happened in the hour. That like i sometimes wake up in the morning particularly because like the show starts early. I wake up in the morning. And i expect that i forgot to post something or that or i missed something. But here's the funny. Greg grew out. Grew up without cell phones if there was an emergency. We figured it out right like you. You'd find a way to get to the versi needed to get to. Oh yeah. where did this podcast go. I don't know a couple of inches. Cutting his background. We talking about technology when you have this. What do you want to go. Do feeding this water. Honestly oh donna me with you guys you guys keep telling me up. Coal the lakers and it on the you has never been around any other than lake. Oh could show never been sadly map it so like in the middle of florida. You see that thing do even see lake tahoe on the way you look when you look at a florida map like from the far like you see that circle right like that whole in there. Yes where else in the in the country do you get that. While the great lakes michigan show us lake. Georgia get it to maybe like no. I don't i don't maybe i'm just a bias. Florida definitely lake michigan right here. I'm scrolling through it. I see i see okeechobee. I'm scrolling over here okay saulat. That's in salt lake city as see. I don't even see no you wouldn't you wouldn't recognize lake tahoe on a map really. That's crazy. Wow look at his thing but also open job. he's bigger obviously. Why can't see side like let's go to job next week and play golf. This lake the difference so lake. George lake winnipeg sake. I think lake tahoe like those then lake michigan or like the party lines you know. Yeah well this is probably the big like what's another sadly. What are the finger lakes. What are those like. Ohio lake michigan. Lake huron is that what it is. You're on really sadly or should not be sad but if you're on is no one ever talks about that right yeah. It's definitely the worst of the five great lakes. Like i got a good idea speaking of lakes lake and bake she we go on the boat and take calls lake bacon. Take another random thing that happened on last week. Show or whenever you know times weird when you're in a podcast stan. Van gundy said we should do show a show from his boat if that needs to happen to vote. I don't often text and things with exclamation points like i. I was like dan. We're doing this and he said yes. I think we have to. Have jim caldwell on this best friend. We didn't know that jim. Dan needs to come out. We need to get that. We need to get that out of the radio. But yes upon. Just wanna see what stan wears on. A obviously got shirt debating sudan. But i just wanna see. The combo is what kind of shoes you wear anything. Thong sandals no bare feet guy has a slide. I see i see him as a sandals and socks guy really know bare feet bare feet for stay all in on what choose. He's wearing shoes to the boat. Though what i i'm with you he might take his shoes off. A one point but like what i would say like a nice pair flip flops. Or or maybe like boat shoes deck shoes right here. Maybe are i. Call them deck shoes but yeah you can call them. Both ways to change shoes in the middle of the media room in that section of the room was unnoticed. Sorry about that. So shove them in your bag. Your dirty gulf shoes not a good idea should probably apologize to the curry's cleared that rumor over the podium. Yeah sorry about that. Who's gonna smoke creek definitely next year of death smelling john. What are the things about. The gulf today was alec wiki. This table is why do they keep pushing looking for flight. What is why did you computer full like that broken. She's got anyways the gulf. You're resting your neon. It could be you. That's a good point. So i feel like the underrated thing about the gulf today was like at every turn. You would think that like seventeen which is kind of like the famous all here. You're playing towards the lake mountains in the background. That's clearly the best view divorce but at every turn something different to look at a state built. This course flawlessly to accentuate accentuate. Every nice. bit of lake tahoe is amazing. Zehr trees there lake. Where else do you get this combination. I mean water and the mountains to the waterfalls but some of these holes had like pine pine trees. Yes pinehurst like two which is. Us open the legendary paint store. Course right now and or augusta for me and my favorite hole and i told you this before we started was the ninth hole so that was our our eighteen poll today. Okay finishing all. Yeah you hit that shot. That has the best and elevates box. You're hitting down that slope the greens. How far from the from the water and the beach ten yards close. I less than alex. Smith completion alex. Speaking of alex odd in that room. I mean he was i. I don't maybe just me. But he was the best looking guy in the room. That's with justin timberlake. That's with aaron rodgers with all centigrade like he was just like yeah incredible. Well it was funny because this is a weird thing. Like we've objectified put like chris today like trying to find flaws an alex. Smith's appearance mcwilliams. Doing man like he's i just know see. We were playing the game. I was at least sky. Who was like that impressed. You with their good looks. I always thought of alex. Smith is someone who's good looking. So i was pushing back on while i'm surprised by this rob riggle. I believe you pointed out tony good-looking. That's a guy who i just always knew. Rob riggle actor. But i saw him yesterday. He's in good shape. President beard was looking nice. It was kind of like. I don't care but i do that. Was i was impressed with him for me. It was tony what did you do. There's been a a nice gentleman sitting behind us for this entire. How have you experienced this. What we've done in the last like our first person account i never. Are we going to be invited back. You important charles. Golf swing okay. Okay on the whole thing. It's like you don't have any say as to whether we come back or not. Unfortunate people say that charles. Berkeley gulf swing is fixed. Now is w writing the hitch anymore right on the range. He was hitting missiles like the ball at jumps off his base. Six six so. He's got natural. We got to bed in for top. Seven hundred seventy. it's good value. Actually finishing top seventy. I'm gonna take that barkley and fish people. There that are kind of veterans. That like did. Didn't buy the hype. Charles barkley is fixed. A swing swing smash the under there. But i feel. I feel like the over might be feeling. This guy's got thoughts on it to. What do you think. Charles barkley top seventy. Now having read the people at the room that nobody knows. And i can tell when he didn't like anybody doing that. Feel the energy of going on the first one that one failed bringing in the guy. That's been listening the whole time. I take him out of the. He's out of the room now but it's a his fault right now. I shouldn't have done it but this one was a good work. Getting the assessment of the guy. A little bit of fun. I'm just. I'm so obsessed with all modern ship pain on six. Jesus that bottle that tree. You're gonna add champagne to your list of things that you do as excuses because you you said that for about forty eight minutes after every navy slam glass all sudden i was like feel a little tipsy at it feel pain not a love shimpei really champagne i do. Yeah well you met. Have you met an alcohol. You don't like. I love him wet. Can i say name-brand sure. If you've any alcohol kind of alcohol you don't like talking to the mike. I'm not a huge tequila guy. And i know. Is there something you'll flat say no to like. Nope not having that game for anything. Exactly like a yeager meister. Don't like jager meister. But if if there's like a group doing something thought i thought it was gonna hate despise. It was actually very menthol. Yes whatever he just keeps saying. Gummy over and over again if i had a phrasing thing to tell us about and we stop. There's a lot of is. I don't even want to refer to the word combination. You down the course. Today were on the ducks on the lake. We said was fake duck. Those real wonder what you use your imagination going. Sometimes they just hit. Sometimes i'm forcing. I'm definitely doing it too much. It's to look at me stations constructing the you talk yourself through this. Sometimes they are perfect. And sometimes i force them in and it's like oh let's bring let's you know to me being too like hey. I mean involve myself in this conversation. That doesn't involve me. I always find them funny. They've actually just as you make fun of me for breaking your brain by saying good shout. Fair-play i do it on your own all the time. I find myself doing them as well. Yeah i'm glad you introduced me to. I create that no right well definitely on the show. Are you saying like. Are you saying like in broader society people. I created it as you're warm chest guy who's writing the barclay. Have you ever heard people combine words before like you know barclay tease beasts. Whose idea was it this time. Sorry this episode is brought to you by babble this summer. Get the most out of your travels abroad by learning the language of your destination with babble. The number one selling language learning app from ordering in restaurants or asking for directions to getting a deeper understanding of the culture babble makes the whole process of learning a new language addictive fun and easy with bite-size lessons. You can actually use in the real world. Babble is a can't miss travel essential all the international soccer. This summer has given me the bug to go places again. You see gains being played in germany and italy in amsterdam in denmark. Copenhagen looked amazing. I wanna go all these places. And i wanna speak. The native tongue of the people can communicate in babbel's fifteen minute lessons. 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A plate felli fell. Greg was screaming. Expletives because greg that's your first earthquake right yeah that's my first career earthquake. I wasn't even sure what it was at first because we felt like the ground shaking like you'll experience every now and again. Maybe like someone stomps really forcefully ever but like for the whole the whole thing to be going. Fixture came out of the roof. Yeah that light fixture right up. There is vacant. Oh my god. I'm totally not standing under a light fixture right now. We're under at giant chandelier. Right now reasons why i live in south florida. No earthquakes well. Hurricanes hurricanes is there a place in the country without extreme weather of any kind. A means says it's phoenix phoenix. Phoenix is is the only place that has zero natural disaster. But it's extremely hot do it. Is that a natural disaster though a sandstorm until five minutes ago i would've said lake tahoe. Here we are twitter searching earthquake just to see yes. San francisco chronicle. Did you feel that earthquake. Yeah how how faster they jesus fresno feltner i think we just got an aftershock. Everybody was still walking around like if nothing happened so like it was felt in. How far are we from san francisco couple of hours so fresh fresno saying they felt an earthquake sacramento felt like they had. They had an earthquake. Goodness me boys. We survived an earthquake. Well add that to the list. Wow i can't believe chris is out there willy. Nilly like nothing happened that nobody's no but he's also like we're on like carpet right. Ron like kind of a structure. I don't know if that structure would feel an earthquake but but technically wouldn't everything earthquake because we're on. Well good. putt coupon depraved.

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Local Hour: David Samson hasn't tasted his food since January

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Local Hour: David Samson hasn't tasted his food since January

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Where we'll get to david samson in a second but how many details do you wanna give people on a hoarding them. You said it's limited edition so you're telling people hurry up and get as many as you can't i haven't hoarded them yet but i should think about it so i was at like cvs. Walgreens one of those. And i was going to pay like man. I wanna kick at it. And i looked down and i saw like just a special displayed said special edition key lime pie kit. Kat and i said you know what. I like kitty cat and i like a key lime pie but this may have gone too far but it was like a dollar fifty so you know what. Let me try this. So i got one of those. I got regular catches in case akilah. Pike kit kat. The bad taste in my mouth. I got home an impulse. Buy dan bagging my days of retail these to have what they called impulse towers where they had little trinkets and the idea was to try to get someone to just grab a bunch of those things on the way out and it worked with the coupon pike. Kika so get home. Try to empire kit kat. Incredible incredible maybe better than the actual kick. No long lanky lying shocking. David your thought here. On what it is. I'm a taste unseen taste on tasted you would say what what it is. He's alleging they're the key lime pie kit kat better than the original. I would give anything to taste a key lime kit kat but i can't taste or smell anything still so it would basically be just a kit kat data. How long been six months. Yeah so i've met with a bunch of doctors and they've all said that if you still have no taste and smell after twelve months to may be gone forever so it's been. I got covert on january twentieth. So we're coming on getting close to six months. But i've got time i do these exercises where i smell licorice or coffee or garlic or and in about ten days ago i had a little bit of garlic smell and that made me happy but i haven't been able to smell. Are you a picky eater. Well now i'm not. That was what i was going to ask. You could eat essentially anything now that you wouldn't have him before. The ad all tastes the same. So what they say is that your palate may actually change when you get if you get your taste and smell back so i a hate food. Which is olives is my absolute hate food. I will not if it touches anything. I can't eat it and i'm going to try to eat olives. I actually did. I had a piece of vegetarian pizza. Because i still love the texture of pizza and candy. Even though i can't taste it and there was an olive on the pizza. Because i had to get it at the airport the other day and i didn't taste it. What tasty you miss the most. I miss candy. I miss licorice kiss right. I'm assuming right no black. Oh really. I'm i'm an all black jelly. Bean good and plenty is favorite candy. All jesus so the back story of that is i. I used to be small. When i was young and so people in in grade school would take stuff from a because there is nothing i could do about it so what i always chose was to like things that no one would wanna take and no one likes black jelly beans or liquorice black licorice so it became my favorite. Because i would always get it. You're a monster. That's funny back story or not. It's a bit heartbreaking. Actually you've started off in a couple of heartbreaking fashion because what how worried are you that this seems like a dramatic lifestyle. Change to lose your taste and just these cents forever. A tiny monster. Yeah so there. There's a lot of people dealing with a lot worse things than i am. I am quite fortunate. So i don't look at it as anything other than it's just a change. It's changed how. I react to food and the interesting thing is i forget that i've lost it. I'm like Drew barrymore in fifty first dates. I wake up assuming. I've got my taste and smell and then i'll go to a meal and people would say wow this is so good and i'll say god i got a bad batch or the chef in make this disc right today because it doesn't taste good and then i have the epiphany. Oh my god. I can't taste it because what it means. Is everything the same and it just tastes like nothing so it's just plain. Do you like take advantage of this and eat. Extraordinarily healthy foods like away healthier diet than you used to now. I've always been pretty healthy. But i crave the texture. So i still crave the texture of candy and pizza and things like that and i'm training for a bunch marathon so i'm eating whatever i want whenever i want to but no i my brain is starting to remember what tastes are so i can taste like i had a hershey's kiss the other day and it. I thought it was stale. Not hard but just sort of tasteless but then something kicked in when i sucked on the hershey's kiss which is how i eat hershey's kisses. I don't bite them. I'll suck them down. And i think i had this sense of what chocolate is does anything that you eat actually satisfy you if you can't taste it so my stomach gets full. Obviously so in. In that regard i would say but in terms of oh god. That's so good. Or what a great restaurant. I shouldn't go to expensive restaurants because it's not worth it. But i still find myself doing it because the food is supposed to be good so therefore i think it's good so my mind i say oh god. This restaurant is just not good anymore. So i've stopped actually going to nice restaurants because that is just a waste of money. I can't imagine anything worse. yes you can. Don't say that this is bad. Just of like just inconvenient is obviously there are things worse than life. But just in terms of daily inconveniences. This seems terrible again. I have a outlook chris. I think that it is what it is. I'm lucky i my lungs were never compromised. I'm doing great. I'm healthy otherwise it's just it's it's annoying more than anything that makes it that you have to say all that stuff and you're right but it must just suck it totally sucks a put it on the poll at lebatardshow. Hershey's kiss bite it or let it melt down at lebatardshow. Wait oppress them. chris. I mean that was really. Did you got him to fold under the single swinging light bulb of interrogation. So what you must have a couple of horror stories though about like drinking expired. Milkers has is it caused something terrible so i love where your head's at because what's in. My mind constantly is minority report. When tom cruise got his is taken out and he went into the fridge where he had a recovery took that those mouldy sandwiches. I don't know if you guys have seen minority report. So i think about that all the time so i never used to look at anything. I would just smell it now. I find myself throwing away anything. That is a day past the expiration date. Where normally wouldn't have to do that. But i can't take the chance and milk. I actually stopped drinking all milk. I don't put it even french toast in my french. Toast mix anymore. I don't put it in cereal anymore. Even though i normally surreal dry. Because i'm just worried that even unexpired milk is going to be nasty and there'd be no add. No i wanted to talk to you. When i saw all of this happened in baseball. Because it seems fascinating to me. David that everyone's cheating and it's rampant in a way that is so ingrained into the fabric of what's happening now that i'm numb to it. It's one of these scandals that i'm like. I don't even understand how much of an advantage these guys have when they do this. So from your perspective. Give us what you find most interesting about what's happening right now in baseball with all this spider tax stuff. What's most interesting is that position. Players were okay with pitchers using foreign substances to get command. But they're not okay with pitchers using foreign substances to make them better. Do you know that now. Foreign substances have become performance enhancing substances their p. s.'s. It's the same thing is doing steroids for players pitchers. They're able to do things they weren't able to do before i've spoken to players. I once spoke to stay in about this when he saw a ball. Do something that it had never done before the way you hit in major league baseball is you only have a quarter of a second to know where to put the bat where the ball's gonna be and you learn where ball's gonna be. You see the spin if you can and you put your bat where the spin should be when the ball gets to wear into the hitting zone but when balls do something different than they've always done that's when these strikeouts happen and it's just difficult for hitters to hit which is why averages are down so position players finally said it's enough and they're calling out pitchers and that doesn't happen very often 'cause there's an understanding and baseball foreign substances were good with it. We're gonna use roz. We're gonna use sunscreen at marlins park. We had a vat of sunscreen and we play with a roof. It's not to stop cancer. The sunscreen is used by players to make a mixture to us when they're pitching. I always love when the sunscreen was out. I don't think you're understanding. How funny that is to have sunscreen in a place where there's no sun but when you start using other things and all of a sudden position players are thinking. They can't make as much money as they used to. Because their numbers so bad then something happens and baseball. Just fumbled it and it is such a nightmare right now. The memo they released is bad and the fact that they're making player stopped cold turkey and giving players now a platform to say. I can't do it. I'm going to get hurt. And then they get hurt and they get to blame the commissioner for it. It's just a nightmare. Is the reason that offense is the worst in that sport that has been more than half a century. The fact that pitchers can use these substances. It certainly is a contributing factor. Take a look at the way these bosmo. There's all of these things on twitter. These sites in these twitter people who have tons of followers showing ball movement. And everyone just says wow look at that ball move. That doesn't happen by accident. It's not natural. It's not normal. That's why pitchers are getting hurt. Because they're throwing ninety eight nine all the time. That's not normal. The movement of the ball is not normal. Matt scott to be done with something and now we know what it is. Of course we always knew though. What do you make of tyler glass. Now saying the reason i got hurt is because they took away these substances from. I think that that is the union getting ready for a collective bargaining negotiation. That's why scott boras made the statement he made. That's why zach gallon. Who's a scott. Pours klein made the statement he made about. Michael that's why garrett one is dead statement. Can you just tell people so that the people who do not know because michael hill is a friend of yours what happened there. Michael hill used to be the president of baseball operations for the marlins and was let go by jeeter at the end of last season. He is now in charge of on operations. It major league baseball zach gallon is a pitcher who was traded to the marlins by the cardinals for marcello zona and then traded by the marlins to the Diamondbacks for gestures on zach. Gallon been hurt. He's now not heard and he decided to go public yesterday. Saying in my last organization we were told to use these foreign substances. Scott boris his agent made a statement saying mike hill is a part of an organization like all organizations who tell their players to use foreign substances and i know mike hill and i was in an organization. We don't say to a pitcher you steroids or a position player. We don't say you spider attack but we're okay when you do it until it goes too far. It's the same way. I was with steroids. I knew the players were using steroids. And listen i wanna win as many games as possible. We're going to educate you that it's not good for your body and that it's illegal that you're gonna get hurt and it could impact your career could impact your sex life but if you want to do it and hit home runs. I'm all in when it comes to foreign substances. It's not illegal. It doesn't hurt physically and it makes us a better team because you get to pitch better. I'm all in to call out. Michael hill specifically the way that's been done is just inappropriate. And it's done. Not because of my kill. It's done because of the collective bargaining agreement that is up on december first. And there's gonna be a fight like you can't believe there's going to be a work stoppage in it's going to be totally super depressing for the fans all because of the ego of certain agents and the ego of certain owners. You are positive there is going to be a work stoppage that before the end of the year there's going to be a work stoppage. It's not like the sunrise dan. I what mean positive no. I'm not positive having heard this senate flatly. You said it absolutely. And i have not heard that a work stoppages coming nearly for sure that i know. The collective bargaining agreement is a problem. I'm guessing that the reason the penalties aren't stiff for this is solely because of the collective bargaining agreement correct. Baseball can't actually come down on these guys. Yeah there's going to be part of the new. Collective bargaining agreement will actually be a rule about what substances can be used. And they're gonna teach the umpires. I think the empire end up checking the players before the game to say yep that substances good yup. that's substances. Good nope get that out of your glove. And i think that is truly going to happen. And i do think there's going to be work. Stoppage because the rancor that exists between players and management right now and i've seen bad over eighteen years. I mean distrust and anger and vile bile. But it's worse now than ever. So i do believe there will be some sort of work stoppage but i don't believe that will miss any games in two thousand twenty two. I think that they will the off. Season will be screwed up but the season will be okay. The reason i asked that question that way. I know when you get it wrong. People come after you like. With the major league baseball all star game being moved to denver. You didn't think logistically that could happen but generally speaking when you say something's going to happen around here like for example theo epstein trying to create a path to get to commissioner a baseball. That stuff happens so you are saying that. There is a great likelihood that we'll get this season. It's not going to happen before this season. But when they go into the offseason. We're going to not start baseball on time and it's going to be a messy one. That's going to be a long time. Where work stoppages in play. Because of you've been at this for a long time david for for you to say it's worse than it's ever been. When you've you've lived through work stoppages. So i actually have not lived through the last one was in nineteen ninety four and i got into the game at in nineteen ninety nine. And that's something that bud. Selig was super proud of as well as the union. Back in the day of gene and don fear they. It was trouble and combative but they always found a way to get an agreement. Done the biggest problem that happened in baseball is when tony clark took over the union and tony clark is a former player and tony clark wanted all these things that were player comfort things in the last in the last collective bargain agreement. They wanted chefs. He wanted better planes. He wanted better food. he wanted better off days. You want a different start times. All of it was crap when we were voting for the we were so happy that the players were focused on such meaningless stuff that they forgot about all the economic stuff. And that's all we cared about and now what it'll be interesting. Is they brought in an absolute killer into the union including boris and the all the executive councillor boris clients and now they realized they don't wanna get taken advantage of but the owners don't wanna give in. They love what's been happening and they lost a ton of money and co vid. They're not gonna give up any economic advantages and that's why there's going to be a work stoppage and you foresee what happening the end result of this scandal and what will happen next year when it comes to what gets negotiated. What do you think is going to happen here. It will not be a blanket no substances except rosin which is what is now what they're doing the cold turkey that everyone's talking about they're going to have to allow some sort of gripping agent to be used other than rosin by players and they're just gonna make it a different rule so it's not a violation of the raw. What the players did wrong here. Is they went too far. They're like children where you gave them an inch. They took a foot. It was okay to use sunscreen and the rosin the pine tar but then technology got better then. They realized they could use more stuff. That would make their pitches even nastier and they weren quiet about it but then their performance got so good. The offense got so bad that the parents meaning. Mlb and the commissioner in the honors said you know what enough and that's what happened with substances. But i think there'll be a rule that more in the middle of cold turkey versus spider. It's going to be back in the middle stugotz here for our friends over at draftkings. I love draftkings. I spent all my time there seriously. I have my mail fair. I do people say hey. What's your address. Draftkings dot com draftkings. Sportsbook is not only my favorite sports book. But also america's top rated sportsbook. I love using draftking sportsbook. It is easy to navigate has plenty of instructions for new batteries and nearly limitless ways to get in on all the action. My friends and family have been loving draftkings sportsbook and i know you will to listen to this. Great offer draftkings. 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I wanted to ask you further about the zach gallon comments and scott. Boris having a go at michael hill How much of that is kind of a personal vendetta with michael hill or was immoral signal towards the fact that he works for major league. Baseball on there is potential work stoppage coming. I think it's thirty seventy he. He does not. He's not a big fan of mike. Kelly's not a big fan of me because we would get in the way of dealing with jeffrey and scott. Boris will only deal with owners. He doesn't like it when presidents or gm's get involved because owners. He can tap their emotion. He can say to mike illitch. Hey you wanna get a championship before he died. Don't ya. you can say jeffrey loria. You wanna get a second championship don't you. Here's how to do it. He can say to ted lerner. You wanna get one right while. Sign my guys but presidents and gm's don't fall for that motion we don't care so boris doesn't wanna talk to us. Does anything. does any of this ever stick to manfred. Is he just protected by the owners. They're all the manfred cares about just so you guys are very clear because there's a great misunderstanding. What the role of the commissioner is in all sports rob manfred cares about twenty-three owners so you say twenty-three because specifically the majority you're just saying or the things to get votes ratified because you only need twenty three twenty three owners to give you an extension on your contract. You need twenty-three honors to get a new collective bargain agreement. You need twenty three owners to get things done. And that's what he's focused on. So when rob manfred does something. He's not flying by the seat of his pants. That's not what he's like. He's extremely calculating. He's extremely machiavelli ian. He understands what his role is and he understands. Self interest self-preservation. It's not a matter of loving the game or not loving the game. People say he's not a fan who cares. Don't hire a commissioner to be. The fan will hire marlins man if we want to. Fan the commissioner. We want someone who's going to represent the interests of the owners and grow the game with money. That's what the commissioners jobless. David i would so fall for scott boras coming to me and saying. Hey cy guy you want to win a world championship before you die. Signed my guy. I would sign every guy crazy. Well do you write the checks. He's great at writing other people's authorship checks yes it's it's not one damn will side. It's not winning his money. Do you know how quickly you blow through fifty million. If you were in charge to do you have any idea i do. Actually very good has manfred been good. He's got a rough deal right. I mean you can't be good during covert there's no win situation trying to deal with covert. You could argue that silver. Did it better. Although i'm not sure did you could argue. Goodell is better. But i'm not sure he is manfred is he's a businessman. He's a labor attorney. He is who is extremely smart and doesn't fall for things that other people may fall for and that's frustrating to the union. It's frustrating to scott boras for sure but manfred doesn't care about any of that so what's interesting. Is that mike kill released a statement which was written by the pr people for major league baseball of course not by mike because that's how it works in baseball and he responded to zach gallon statements. And that's interesting. I talked about it on. Today's nothing personal because that does not happen often. Because what we're taught in baseball is you nor boris. Don't mention his name. Don't talk about anything he's talking about. Don't give him the platform or the power but mlb had to respond to what bora said. Why because they're losing the pr battle right now and losing badly and that is something they don't want they still believe going into collective bargaining that having the people's side and having them that having fans beyond owners side matters. I always spoke to the commissioner and to all the executives saying who cares what the fans think. Our job is to get the best deal we can. We don't need the pr we don't need to attract the attention of anybody with what we're doing just negotiate the best deal we can for ourselves and then people forget about it because then you're playing games. Do you think. Michael hill responded to kind of save the look of mlb or to save himself because last night when that stuff was coming out i felt like my goal is going to be the fall guy for this because the way the astros thing played out they looked for fall. I it wasn't going to be the players so they punished management so felt like. That's kind of where this was going until he respond publicly. Might kill is paid by rob manfred and raisman for knows very well might kill had nothing to do with. Mike is just the name on the memo. Might kill is the one who speaks to the umpires and speaks to the managers and speaks to the players about stuff. That's going on on field. It's not that might be that kind of fall guy. And frankly feel is the one who brought in to do all these things have baseball and changed the game and make the basis bigger and all the pitch clock and all the stuff that goes trying to do so. I was surprised that theo did not speak up it. All and the mlb did not have speak up at their protecting him. For whatever reason david price you say that you're you're feeling was that the pr doesn't matter. Do you not think that the overall decline in interest in baseball can be associated at least in part to decisions like these or public like these where the becomes less of an attachment to the institution of baseball however nebulous. That might be. Yeah i was actually talking about the pr. Surrounding collective bargaining. Remember during covid when there was the fighting going on between the commissioner and all of the players in the commissioner said we may have to cancel the season. He got absolutely torched including on this show. He was trying to get people on his side. And that was the mistake. When i say that baseball doesn't care about pr. It's in terms of an agreement in terms of getting the provision. They want they care. Wait too much about pr. Because they're jealous of the other leagues who get better pr. And so sometimes they do things solely for pr. And when you do that. That doesn't work either. It has to be organic one of the things happening in the ncaa guy saw this but arizona state now herm edwards being investigated for doing all sorts of things in recruiting and co vid illegal. Things and i just feel like there's a general numbness where we assume everyone's cheating in empirical terms david outside of the game getting slower. Which i think is what hurts baseball. The most in a fractured attention span changed society. I don't think there's any actual damage to this. I think the integrity of the sport has been so befouled and the numbers have been so distorted and the way it's played has changed so much that i actually don't think there's any real consequences to the cheating other than nobody hits baseball for three innings. And you're going to a park to watch three innings or strikeout. Were there consequences to the steroid era. I'm was great for baseball. The steroid era was great. It was medicine for baseball. Brought them back after a work work. Stoppage this i think is a net. Nothing i think it's a net. Nothing you don't lose fan because pitchers are cheating. Steroids brought fans out to the ballpark said that you have to put that in perspective so from baseball standpoint if steroids worked what about steroids worked balls. Were going into mccovey cove. Ripe makoko mccovey cove say that five times quicks. Thanks so that is what happens with stories. That's why it was so good. It's funny there. Was that whole to remember. It's not even good to say. I don't even know if we can stay alive. Chicks dig the long ball member that whole commercial that that was a thing back then and i'm sorry if that's offensive but that was back then. I don't think they would use that now. Nobody says hey chicks dig the no hitter. Right strikeouts out. They love the walks. Who give me more walks so base was trying to say. Hey we've gone too far the other way and so now they're trying to bring it back. It would be funny to me. If part of the collective bargain agreement allowed for players to get back on performance enhancing drugs. Who are the hitters. That'd be one way to combat this. Here's a funny question. David if somehow the use of substances increased offense in that sport would anybody in charge. Have a problem with it. Nope i love it. These substances decreased offense because only the pitchers were using it in the balls. Were moving in ways that the hitters grenade steroids pitchers and hitters were using steroids so while it was sheeting it was more of an even playing field. No actually pitchers were using steroids. Trying to keep up like roger. let's say but at the end of the day. Steroids are much better for hitters. Steroids by pitchers were really use. Like what andy pettitte said used to try to recover from injury faster to get back on the field because that's one of the things that certain steroids can do but the majority of the people using them were the offensive players. Were hitters in. That wasn't used for to cover injury or to replace greenies. It was used to actually give you the ability to do better than you could do. Otherwise ryan spader. A baseball analyst wrote on twitter. The other day. I've had enough. I think i'm coming out with everything tomorrow. Going to sleep on it and then he came out with everything that he had. Everything i'm about to say was verified by more than one player. I do not mean to burn anyone. I love baseball. I've just had enough of this bullshit. The royals were the first team with a full analytics video department close to their dugout doing so in two thousand fifteen their world series championship year. How they used it. I do not know the yankees had cameras in left center and right all pointing at the pitcher's glove rather than the catcher to pick up his grip. And then you see that. Aaron judge is home and road splits a ridiculous in terms of when he was at home. Mashed the ball with help and when he wasn't he didn't. The dodgers had an employee who was caught setting up cameras at minute maid park wearing an mlb polo shirt when he should have been wearing a dodgers polo during the two thousand. Seventeen world series. This one hurts to say my favorite player ever chase. Utley was the biggest cheater of all time as insane as it sounds. I've heard this from multiple players. Adrian belt trae had a buddy with binoculars and dead center. Who would wave a undershirt. If he was getting something off speed in two thousand and seventeen and again his home road splits are ridiculous as well. How much is real here. David west realized you just said undershirt. And that's not what the quote was that made me smile. And it's absolutely guaranteed that this is going on with players in with teams. I was a part of it. We're looking for every. And i said this on the show during covid when it was just me and mikey i said hey. We of course were tried to steal signs at all times. There were people who were assigned to do nothing. But steve asides and figure out the signs both from the catcher and even from the third base coach of the other team. That was their job. Because we weren't playing the bench. Anyway and we had cameras. We had executives. Everyone knew the gm the manager. Everyone i don't know that. I even discussed it with jeffrey. Because why would i bother. So some owners could claim they don't know but does and to say the chase utley. I just don't like platitudes like that. Like something so binary. He's the greatest. The biggest cheater of all time may be only in the specter of cheaters. You spoke to her. Who you know. But i don't want to put that on chase. Subtly because you'd better come out with something better than jason lee. the biggest cheater of all time. You better have proof that he did something above and beyond what everybody else was doing. And i'm not sure he has that or he would have come out with it whereas the david just appears to me and correct me. If i'm wrong the astros were just better at this than everyone else. That's not appear we've talked about that. You're one hundred percent right. They were simply better at it and we were jealous of them. I remember so well talking about the fact that we were not able to do. What other teams were doing not just by developing players and drafting players and we got caught with bad signings and bad trades. We couldn't cheat as well as the other teams and i would sit with the other executives and say. What's wrong with us. Even if we can't figure out how to develop good player scout a good player. Can't we at least sheet as well as the other teams. So you so now like in the role of pundit do you like castigate teams enter cheating. And why did you not feel when you were in baseball. That there is some purity to it and that you didn't want to cheat like why. Why did you feel that. It was okay to cheat when you're in it. What are we in a what. What are you talking about way. You think i had like a moral dilemma in my brain. Oh my god. I can't do that. That would be terrible to try to steal someone signs. I'm not exactly stealing their pension literally. Don't even understand what you're talking about. Okay but david question is tell me about was your morality. And he's like morale trying to win. I'm not trying to help people in a nursing home but the only reason this is a new story is because people are presumably bent out of shape over the notion of cheating. But he's a scoundrel everybody's telling you because it's nothing personal this ain't a dot org like everybody is trying to beat everybody for money and that's business and sports is business and just because fans wanna be pollyanna about it. He's in the middle of it and he's telling you don't be silly. We were all trying to cheat the next guy if we could get away with it. I couldn't possibly add anything to that. So so then. I guess the question is like what what's to stop you from break like. Did you attempt to break every rule in the rulebook. Essentially the rule book is this thick. What are you know. not by rule and have committees. Same how can we break rule. Seven hundred and forty nine part four sentenced. Gee i said is what rules. Can we break. That can help us win. More games because everyone else is doing it. We might as well try to do it to the important ones chris. What he's saying rats with you by the way wittingham. But he's just cutting through it coldly in yelling you that executives aren't doing that you either. Try and find winning in the margins however it is you can or you will lose to the people who find it like it's not like i was viewed as a moral sort of executive who would never dabble in this sort of stuff was there was dombrowski was dombrowski. Definitely he would not do anything. No take the high road every time. Hold on let me let me look. Through the encyclopedia britannica former executives. Lousy definitely did yeah. He did too. Yeah yeah no no. None of zero is the problem though that fans care about cheating but only when the other teams are cheating and no one really cares when their own team is cheating as long as you win. A world series right. Those astro fans responded aren't they. They're just they're crushed. They've played if you told me the cubs cheated in two thousand sixteen. It's not gonna make me like be sad. That i celebrated them winning the world series for the last five years. Can we just worksheet. Bothers me a little bit so when you do something that you know is against the rules but you also know that while it may be giving you an advantage. You still need to perform right. So that's like when when i do something. Is it cheating when i put lifts in my shoes. Good point yes do you. Why tell me the impact honest. You're being dishonest about what your height actually is actually don't wear lifts because they're too uncomfortable for me but believe me. I've thought about it. I used to love dressing up and going to costume parties. And i would always dress up like as madonna or something and i would wear heels because i love the concept of actually being able to dance with the girl in middle school or high school where i could put my hands on the over the waste of the girl instead of on top because they were all so much taller than i so it is something but that's sort of cheating right. You're doing it in a way to try to be better and the concept. Have you ever heard this cheat to compete. We're not doing anything. That is hurting people to the point where we are risking their lives. This is sports. This is competition on the field. I think people just need to take a bit of a breath here. I don't want to be a broken record but this is all good for baseball like we're we spent the last hour talk david. Is this bad that the baseball's in the news like nobody is. Who's really not watching baseball if you were watching baseball. You're still watching baseball. There's not been one fan. Who went away because of the sign stealing because they're steroids because of foreign substances. And the fact. I'd rather you know talking about you. Could talk about shohei otani and you could talk about the san francisco giants in the white sox but guess what boring totally boring. You wouldn't spend five seconds so go giants on this show. Would you what we did the other day. Just talking about brandon belt still playing first base me crazy support for this. Podcast comes from invent together according to studies less than thirteen percent of all inventors who hold it. Us patent are women. Black and hispanic college graduates patent at half the rate of their white counterparts. 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Ever right break off the only rule that we adhere to is the snitch rule everywhere else laid bare that everyone in baseball is trying to cheat. But don't you dare stitch immoral shit. That's that's the line. I will do anything. I have to do but i will never tell on someone else now. It doesn't mean that. I will not draw the attention of umpires during a game when i think the frank robinson or the expos or another team is doing something to violate the rules. Or when i see another player being so obvious. Strimmer when michael pineda had the The foreign substance that was on his neck. I don't know if you guys remember this. I don't remember what year was it. Certainly a different tone. It was totally insane. When we see that we're gonna say something and we're doing that because we want teams to try harder when they're cheating and not the obvious. Good so andy. Pettitte during a world series game was tipping his pitches he got bombed and the yankees lost. What is the greatest example you have in your marlins history of cheating successfully of when you guys did something and it's memorable to you because you were able and catching a pitcher tipping pitches is an actually cheating. But what's an example of a successful cheat by the marlins while you're there. Yes so when you say. Kay pitch tipping pitches. That's something you also look for and that is again. There's no rule about any of that. That is something you do. Want to do. And jose fernandez tip pitches sometimes and we would talk about it because it's like tell and poker. You don't know you're doing it. That's what the definition of tell is and when you discover the tell you don't say anything but in baseball it doesn't work that way because when a good pitcher gets rocked you have to say either one. You're hurt or to your tipping pitches because pitchers who get swings and misses when they're not getting swings and misses that means hitters. Know what's coming so that was the first thing the second thing is we would. We would screw around with the roof and we would screw around with the grass and weed. Screw around the sprinklers of pro player. And what we did is that we would want to take the other visiting team out of its rhythm. Baseball's a very rhythmic sport. Bp's at a certain time. The anthems at a certain time pitchers warm up at a certain time and we would do things that would interrupt the rhythm of visiting teams as much as we could like. What would you be doing with the sprinklers in the grass so we would cut the grass in a certain way depending on what the opponent was if it's an opponent with speed With speed at the top of their lineup we would cut the grass in a way that would make the grass longer said a ball Would would shorter so the ball would get to the the field faster. We would do something in the outfield. Each row had specific ways that he liked the grass cut in the outfield. And we would cut it that way for him but when we knew that we were playing against other teams and we'd be told that those players liked the outfield a certain way we cut the grass differently for them. When we knew the weather was gonna be bad. Sometimes we keep the roof open and make it really hot in the ballpark for visiting. Bp sometimes pro player we would make sure that the tarp was not on improper time so ep would get canceled more than it should have so we would try again anything to disrupt rhythm one at work. Would you guys celebrate. How would you celebrate with their high five you in the grounds crew. How how does this work. No not at all as a matter of fact we wouldn't involve the ground screeches. Tell them what to do. We're not saying we're not implicating the grounds crew by saying. Hey we've got this team coming in so do this. We just say here's what we want we want and they don't ask questions and that's their job not test questions. They just do what we want. But no don't celebrate that because by the way when we're on the road teams are doing that to us. So it's totally normal gear. Put it on. The poll is the grounds crews job. Not to ask questions. I was affected by september though well back at pro player. We used to love that when we had the when we had the dirt and we had the chalk lines. Sometimes we'd keep the chalk lines actually stronger than other times because it can be distracting to fielders. If you remember how dolphin stadium when baseball be playing. There'd be chalk lines as to love watching. The dolphins play on dirt between first and second base was part of the field. That used to make me laugh but Listen the bottom line of this show is what people don't understand. Is that what you call cheating. We're calling trying to gain every possible advantage to do the job that were paid to do. It's that simple. David samson makes a rogue and renegade appearance. Today on the second edition of sinophile. What do you have for us on that. Front chris cody. I just wanna tease the episode. With a two and a half second clip. Everyone thinks adnan virk nicest man in the world. While unleashed david samson on him and it makes adnan. Virk say this fall. They've dick about it. Oh my god what's oh my god. Holy sh- what is that then vertu. That's what happened so first of all check about it. I got this information and it was zoom room that i use to do the appearances here on the local hour. I didn't know that. I thought we were doing a taping of the local hour. That was the presentation. And then i get in the room and adnan's there and finding everything but he thinks he knows about movies. He's just got cocky. Such shift thinks he's this amazing guy and his basically. He doesn't know any more about movies than i do. Knows way less. He just likes to quote them because he does research. And i'm doing everything off the top of my head. I could do an entire show with. Imdb tab open impress you with my trivial knowledge of crap. But i don't do it that way. So there's adnan so. I just decided to join the show. Because he was talking about movies. Of course that i had seen but i found it to be less than interesting especially when he called me a dick and my name's not even and he doesn't know me to call me that he doesn't deserve cable. The call me you gotta meet me first and then call me that. A shocking sinophile rate subscribe and review. we'll get to david samson's movies in a second. Why are you shaking your head. No billy just how generally lazy shot says. yeah. I appreciate the audience. The audience Suggested to me. I had not seen this a netflix comedy. Special bo burnham did was extraordinary during the pandemic. it's about mental illness. it's art. It's funny i. I haven't seen anything like it before. So thank you to the audience members who recommended the bo burnham comedy special because it is comedy for our times in the last year and david. What are you reviewing this week. Well can we talk about the boat burnham or did you talk about it more no. I haven't talked about it. But i just thought it was a work of art because he took us in the pandemic into a closed base where he was wrestling with his mental illness. He used to have panic attacks when he'd get up on stage. He's one of the most famous youtubers that there have been. He's a brilliant comedian and musician and what he put together is a work of art but it also seemed lonely and painful and depressing and hard. So i had never heard of him because i am old and white and it turns out to me when i was told by someone from nothing personally. Movie suggestions all times by listeners who rate review and subscribes. Nothing personal when you ask them to that. I thought he was the guy from promising young woman. That's where i recognize them from. That's it but i was told to watch this. So i did and i didn't move the entire time. I was devastated watching it. Because he wasn't acting. And i didn't realize how brilliant he was and the movie about. Instagram is one of the the song about white women in their instagram. Was one of the funniest songs i've ever heard the pain and when he talked about suicide when he talked about the dark loneliness the depression and he was the editor. The cameraman the writer the producer the director and the one man show. He did everything because he was alone. During the pandemic and you could see the process unfolding if you haven't seen it. I strongly suggested it's the second best. Derek doug audio is the best thing i've seen sort of the one man show type of thing Since the pandemic started one is a must see. And it's not an easy watch but you will laugh but you'll also cry and that makes it pretty compelling while you'll also be amazed by the range of talent and brilliant because the song you mentioned i didn't even think was the best one the welcome to the internet song that he did Where it's five minutes of just straight brilliance. That i know. I can't believe that that guy how long that had to take to make just those five minutes just smart writing great great performance and funny camera work. I can't. I can't suggest it strongly enough and at the end he actually show you if you stay to the end of the credits. There's a payoff. He shows you a little bit about how he films some of the things and you realize to get a shot that last one second in a montage what he had to do to prepare that being solo and be being alone in this dark room this white it felt like a padded cell to me and i i assume that's what he was going for. There's no art on the wall but it's a very artful presentation using computers and what they can do this type of show opened before computers and the internet and all of the things that are now that we're able to do but i i it. It took something to make that show. That i can't even. He never told us how long he took to film it. Though the full weight going back for a second. What's wrong with having tiny pumpkins on my instagram feed. I love tiny pumpkins david. Why why is that funny of a pumpkin. It's just a cute little pumpkin. Put a little crown on my dog flower crown with wrong with that. Do you actually think. I'm gonna take your bait like do you actually think there is a chance that i'm going to engage the movie that you are reviewing this week. David samson viewing jessica. Okay i wanna get serious and talk about a documentary. I watched called role with me since. We're talking about serious things wrong with me. Documentary from two thousand seventeen about a man in a wheelchair who is a drug addict and he decided he was about to die and instead of dying of a drug overdose he decided to wheel across the country in a regular wheelchair not a motorized wheelchair. Not one of these built up. You know oscar pistorius blade leg blade runner wheelchairs. I'm talking just a regular wheelchair. Where you have to use your gloves. And they documented it and it's the story of the seven people plus him who went across country and he went from california to his home in on long island. It is incredibly emotional and what it shows is that the human spirit is something that has no end. If you put your mind to something you can do it. And he saved his life. He saved other people's lives if you are addicted to drugs or pills or heroin. There is a way out just like if you're having suicidal thoughts there's a way out. There's numbers to call. If you see row with me you'll be inspired and realize that you are so lazy right in your life. And i try to run. I ready ran my my workout this morning but i felt so lazy watching role with me watching what he did. It's a great documentary. it's on netflix. It's called role with me gear mo. Put it on the poll please. Should oscar pistorius his name. Nickname have been blade leg at lebatardshow. Nothing personal is the podcast if you want sort of an undistinguished a pure cut of how the business of sports works nothing personal. You should go check it out because you don't hear what you just heard there. Which is a former major league executive. Just telling you we were all trying to cheat you. Never your rally be damned david. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it sir. Stugatz too but that's it. He just did some good things to practice this morning. Threw five interceptions on. He's gotten better say it's worth a lot of interceptions. Listening to tuesday's pod as to a threw five interceptions in a practice. And i was like. This isn't go well but i mean like i said i was just trying to be aggressive and i kept on throwing them buddy just through a couple of td to the end goal darts here. The corners living good dolphins training can zero sum game. We're shits happening man dollars out of wimbledon lympics as fallen apart yeah.

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Katey Harvey

The Sue Plex Podcast

1:02:31 hr | 6 months ago

Katey Harvey

"Hello my name is sarah and this is a suplex. Hello jonsman happy wrestlemainia week.'. spiny here. There's great fans in stadium. It's gotta be great. The starts to walk to normality. I think for wrestling now. Hopefully you will show up with a one. I'm not going to spoil anything for us. Sh- spoil it. No spoilers place. Why for a do is drop this episode of the podcast. Now there's a little town in ireland otherwise known as bray. County wicklow ireland. That's produced some wonderful wrestling talents. Now we all know becky lynch and we all know. Prince devitt aka fogo. i k. a fin battle but everybody knows my next guest who will be introducing you all to today and in my opinion is one of the unsung heroes of irish laser gentleman. I bring you my catch up with the lovely katie. Harvey lowly jovan. Welcome to another edition of the press cost. I am sarah. And i am with one of ireland's finance them lovely. Katie havi katie. How are your house. Have housing street near the moment and goods Like i said it's just kinda get along the best three candies crazy times on the more positive side of it now that that's good olsen listener new. Uk has been going on in england in the end the by vials and the scotland ticket of a full lockdowns. How's it been in ireland's in ireland. We are in our third lockdown on. We have been locked down more than any other country in the world stage so it is an interesting Basically our first lock down with so well that they reopened the country. Hastens rose a little bit. This down again still didn't okay. Opened up completely for christmas now are have been closed for close to year so once. They opened a christmas. That was kinda game over and it was. It was a free for all cases. Shuttle where like the highest point in cases that four five hundred day they were shooting up to eight thousand a crazy for small islands. So we'd be locked down again no and just four new year's day Stays reasonable rachel. Tom navy demolish now sixty three. My vigo is over there. And how how's the case he's been is starting to drop now because now you're in this lockdown or is it still actually the day that they're not even going to review until me relocate. I my shoot job. Is i work in a gym. I'm probably not going to be back at work. So jada july. I presume at this stage though out No great note right hand but it does sound symposiums. Gone on in the Vaccines all star and to get narran. People were getting a job. So hopefully we are one step closer to normality fingers and toes crossed anyway now as a pie. How you keep it over that that will you've been so busy or other than your. What your wonderful commentary on your significant others luma. Ted's hands inside a whole side. It's probably been one of my favorite things about lock that we've had so much time to spend together in our house because know arrested. You're out of the house every day of the week. Your weekends are gone. I'm trying to positives of the pandemic were home together. We've been together ten years in october. And we've never had like this solid time together at home so it's been really nice but then it's also like things like need documenting historical with more because you have to find the joy in the little places where where you can find the day all acadia. Instagram wash fills battles with the low muller low mouse over strong. No kickouts per much is the same story. Every time phil yes. He's going to the loma lesson. A loving debate the garbage ills. Plus you call see measure. You shoot jim. Gym will also food personal trainer. Narrow is you fool tiso in there. Shall we say. I was a personal trainer. I am now a gym manager at studio coordinator. So i'm basically the would betrayed trainers and i will gather the timetables than i'll bring a new class. Do advertise the fight back. So it's actually a really cool line. Between what i love my personal training which is kind of like passing on knowledge in working with people and then it also kind of my wrestler promoter side of you know coming event. The getting people excited things coming up. Jim if that's actually a really really good job. Excellent exit fingers crossed. You was backup. You'll be back soon. Fingers crossed so. I'm going to ask the question is how did you get into this wonderful win world that we rested. I'm shaving. obviously your fan to start off with a. What was the moment of hook interesting. Though when i was growing up in a town called bray wicklow locomotion call. Nwa arledge and it was run by fergal. Devitt who is in ballard and a guy called tracy and i was any better ten years old eleven twelve at the time and i used to go watch every single. Climate was on embrace just absolutely looked. Say i watched on telly as well. As long as i can remember and i remember one day there was a girl on the show and i actually freaked out. I was like. I didn't know girls could do this. I like who let her do this. Like why she got in and she wrestled when the guy is not as if loom idaho. Mind on it. I went up to talk to her afterwards. And i'm like i. I didn't know this possible. And she's like well. You have to be sixteen but i'll get enough location. And she went off and got me enough occasion handed me the really cool thing is that person turned out to be becky lynch because i've seen on a live show and i remember being like twelve and mike having my location for him and just waiting filler sixteen. Of course when i got to sixteen i didn't join because you know best laid plans on your twelve hours. Actually super heavily into i was competing on like a european novel was my baby. That was my my boater and so i competed until the twenty one a karate and then two things happened one is i blew my neo so completely like wrecked. My knee has karate tone in your bare feet on. It was just a just stop. Couldn't couldn't do it anymore. I two weeks away. Which was i bet. I bet the second thing that triggered me joining wrestling was a bad breakup. So i go out someone for a couple of years. Bad bad breaks of the teenage boyfriend. I was like. I'm going to die hair going to become a wrestler. I'm just going to reinvent my whole life. I dropped out of college. Acidity in history of politics and went to film school or a coupla guys looked wrestling as well and we have to do a documentary or a class. And i was like. There's a. there's a wrestling school in this town. Did you know that. Like i used to go watch their shows. All the time so rounded up the film crew rothem to end blue ireland which was never fight factory. We started making a documentary on by a month after we start the documentary we had all joined the rest go since the media department of firefighter is own point to get over. You want to do this. we decide. I've been. I've been to your way. Are you guys. Were bright dot eu original price in bright and i was like yeah skirted some plain an hour for blunder to get to get the w. despite you know this is cool Also i know so we can turn around and say thank. You also broke your hall at that point in time. Because he's majored the rest of you. All today i wouldn't have met my fiance. I wouldn't have my best friends. You know like i've been arrested for ten years. May not if it happened in the last decade. Definitely shout to the x. I have to say in this one occasion. But that's so you always. He did national and european level with karate. That's like i'm actually qualified for the world championships again. Just before blew my knee out. Remember break in my nose my berry last fight anxious between my knee. I knows and then like this like new low for wrestling. I was just like. I don't account because cheney credit five times a week as well just something has to give though. I ended up just all interesting from that point and the rest is history as i say in the factory price for those who don't know about five factory. The cubbies aim was vice embracing little bit paid for irish recipes. Oh we'll have to say that's great. Come free of prove that area of the country Tell all this is a bit more about the company ways. Obviously come from from the wwl. Ella dice yeah. So it would have originally been end of new orleans because we didn't have wrestling in ireland twenty years ago it just didn't exist. What happened is the likes of aston. Butler and paul tracy and stuff. They went to the uk to hammerlock in london. Libretto to wrestle and then brought back to base chance. Start at the school. I think so my fail after boyd. He started wrestling the eighteen years ago with nwa orleans went burglar. Paul step back. He took over the school and when he took over it was a disaster. There was no trainees and just rest wasn't popular. You know that low that we had a few years ago. Nobody was watching. Nobody was signing up to do it so he took it over anyway. And then i think i might joined about eight years later and eat slowly started building everything buckle and obviously we started going house on the two have been kinda run together for the last ten years If been going really really successfully. And i think they'll win the most under coaches in europe. I think i think the restaurants are coming out of fight. Factory are you. I think their hearts match Like a lot of kind of your. Uk listeners might know the lakes more than at they might know. Debbie tell they'll definitely for and x t k. Michael may just makes me on the uk. It's just factors really kind of taken that british. Nwa style and kind of mixed in with like bits that we picked up another faces. And just look that. We always attracted like a really really good group of people. Trae though i think i think the atmosphere plays partner school and kind of how well we insurance alive and we do run our own shows while at the heart of it training the most important to us the lake. We're just we're just gonna wait this damage to blow over and we're just gonna keep going. We've actually moved to the city centre. Now dublin doubled. Premises doubled our trainees so hopefully when all this is over for ready to again exit fingers fingers and toes. Cross you guys. United states The major when i was i wallow like pre twenty years ago. Now i'd say t's not long and we must chris we down to a break and had a very very messy not out that not as well They've all located in. The park is a long story. But you know it was what it was. So wonderful soul. i do. Love is when you went into the school in think it might have been in the area. It may have been in the rings. The might area but all the highlights. He had fergal and stuff. He was doing in japan losses on the walls and pull tracy or in japan. He's just before i got out. W w i believe i'm trying to get my died. Strike was a success and it was everybody done anything that come out at school avenue it was going to england or all in In europe it was just look on this success on loved seeing that because it was it was showing. It was showing the people still there goes he constantly week in and week out training. That's what they could achieve as well and you're right with phillies. He has a very by boston coach and he was very good coach boys or from him quite say definitely so fingers fingers crossed the works out feed is when the pandemic is over. So please i it again. Fantastic so obviously during your career. He helped rebuild the ours is. They don't know this is going to be filed the firefight tree to whitby deloitte. Serve as you said debbie and valkyrie and office. Who have been doing their bit for the irish resin. Say of in ireland and further afield. I noticed you'll hatred Traveling yourself all over. Europe was five price so far to visit or the hard question. I love brigade. See you and yes. Because when i started an ireland said wrestling was dead. Ten years ago we were lucky to get show him on. And then you have you know you know maybe three different active resting skills and everyone from those schools trying to get on the same card and so basically. I'm ashamed to say that big debate about it. I paid to get myself to england the first few pipe. Up upton ryanair. I'm going to go here on. You know i'm going to get on this show on. I'm gonna get my name because there is not an resting to make me a good restaurants right now. This is what i need to do. The important factors there wasn't that many girls either from the wrestle. Becky had finished up at express lynn. Another really really good of esther had finished joke was basically me on martina best in each of their constant look martina and i think we probably twenty more matches against each other. It got to that stage where we needed to branch out and we needed to. We needed new people to wrestle. And though you know i start going to the uk. And i look good friends in the uk as well. That really helped me. A kind of got me onto shows jasem. Each people would let me stay with them. And that's kind of what i love about traveling and wrestling is. I kinda kinda got the and all these different clue you know who would kind of help me along the way so i did the uk a good times. And then i got to belgium off the back of them shows and i got to holland and for a showdown and after abuse and a half day after adore arrested in both cases again. The kinda remind me They just have this really good community of wrestlers. Everyone just one terrestrial because they love it you know on. I don't know if you've ever been at in situation where it feels like wrestlers wrestling at it. It was very prevalent a few years ago. I think he's got a lot better and so i especially holland. Belgium christelle at that attitude hadn't reached area. You know people look wrestling wrestling's now on tv and holland. So if you want to be a wrestling fan you have to work at it Like you have really mind the online not on mainstream. tv and holland ago. That surprised it could be now. But when i first started hall into definitely wasn't because i remember we were over there for wrestlemania one year and we were like finding the streams and stuff you know just to get to watch it The i definitely love the feeling atmosphere resting in those places and also at gw. Germany placed wrestlers. Well and they do. These big female only shows which i thought were really good. They really go by different girls different countries. There was the big emphasis on quality. Quality matches like the last show. I did they had brought williams over as an agent just for this all female show where he was sitting down. Go much my match is just. It's just a level of detail. I haven't seen many of their promotion though that stephanie. Definitely a highlight based. I like i. Yeah you've had some great clashes with well. I know fellow. Gw up. shall i say. He's i asia. Raymond out there because you guessed it all the poku weights ago so now he does seem like every time i hear about gw like you might say you must go out your way to say it because again. They took all the goals and they look call the they. They could emphasis on it as well and your attention. Day outbreak duggan in. Mind for the business what was the site key takeaway away. Something you learned. Don't wins will be some. I was absolutely so nervous. Wrestling of grunted on because i was arrested in madison miles on the show and we had decided to do a sort of techie match. Because i ll obey chain restaurant. And i love like wrestle restaurant and i was like i'm going to do this dog williams. What am i take all the people he. The is even posted productivity. Pretty be johnny gates by because but looks like a challenge. No he he's just he's just very very good about the kind of highs and lows in the flows the match you know so we we kind of took that from and and it just even if it's not a lot direct feedback just knowing that there's someone there that you can go and ask the question and you know you're going to go down there you know you're going backward feedback is so reassuring when you're going to wrestle so that was. That was the best thing to happen of their awesome awesome. You mentioned you travels to the aci. Obviously you worked for. Nwa hamadan when he came. Back on its reboot. a few. Coffee is gone now but few years ago not all. Wi been the big to. I'd say you've had hail as been progressing as an progress in have felt on those big wide causes the biggest biggest stages of wrestling needed Though the avoid was crazy because eve was my last much before the pandemic knowledge whole will ever wrestled for eu was a last. Can we say last year. That would have been a year ago. Yeah so like. I remember talking don and be like it took me nine years to get here because believe me from the minute i start wrestling. I was in dance the end for speaking. For whatever reason it just it just didn't work out for a couple of years you know between like injuries. Vulcans kinda needs one. St a restaurant actually to my friends at each valkyrie and because hell got their first. The wo- queens. And i can i just say like. That's my favorite tag game in the world. They're so good like they just so proud watching them. I watch them gallo bit theory. Because i'm like user school. He's also for the queens. I said i said someone idea calls to say as crazy. Love the cranes on threatened hatch. Stage is a bad one time medium due due to debate and do the dom soon the entrance info gob as law. Does it individual parents. The right gal just like he's got a hold me to one of these days. I thought i might do. Make sure i'm there too. I would. I would like to do their of plan with end valkyrie during the game for like just imagine the match ended up being research because it was against bellary. This is why. I think it's so funny. It was such a leap in our relationship with point. Because i i don't say i helped trainer okay because i think that there's a disservice to the people who actually trainer will. I've been there for her. Since the beginning i had her first ever match. You know when. I came back after my big injury. She was my first much back she was. You know the the person. I trusted to get me through that. An open till dot point relationship anywhere. The i went in europe. I was bringing her by the hand. Whitney though like i got to after she the i go to gw if she came with me and it was such a funny switch relationship that now like she was like kind of the leader. The leader in eighth. But you know what i mean like. She was the one that the crowd knew. She was the one who'd been there. I i like. I am the one and she's me over. You know what i mean and it was just. It was so nice but like it was such a weird weird flip. Like i remember. We went for coffee before the show. And i'm sitting there and i was so nervous. Couldn't he all day and she's like what why what is wrong. Should i'm like. This place is special. Because i haven't done this before. Unlike a you know. I i know you're over here and i just wanna do a good job and we're doing a little bit of comedy wrestling and stuff like that and i was just. It's just it's the law. And i was like. It's good that i'm still getting this nervous ten years and you know what i need i i just want this to be good for both of us and we ended up from the match anyway. So they'll work that well but yeah eve. Eve is pretty cool because it was that weird like role-reversal an progress. Progress is just unbelievable. Because i had been flying over watch progress the fan you know. I had been in the crowd when the girls do not. I go away. I think was pollyanna tony jimmy. Only 'cause terribly name escapes me and coppola. The first girls matches. I had flown over seas. I remember seeing a reas much as well. All these matches. I went to the endeavors. I went to the main shows all of it. The actually then get the chance to be on the main show. I remember getting video package. Don't and then like you know. Just wanted to make a good impression as an android president. Nixon and i loved it i arrest of nixon. I think she's a dream to wrestle. Big enough though. Yeah it was just it was just really nice to like be like your hard workers paying off because you know from going there a to arrest there was just a really nice journey to take those wonderful is olsen back home. Ott as probably one of the larger promotions in in ireland we go Sida and those e tiger opportunity to wrestle. When you've been one of the building blocks of the women saying i'd say in ott as well Oversee was unfortunately the place where you had your injury but he january twenty thousand nineteen for those who listen and full extent. were happening. Explain what happened that night. What went wrong and what the outcome of. that was. What i thought was going to happen. That i it was. I was going to have an easy one tag match. And my mom's for dinner actually have quite different and i had one big spot in the match at the start of the match at which is going to finish it me doing a big dive off the top turnbuckle the outside literally dive. I would say. I have done four times before with a issue. I don't know what happened that night. But instead of like going into the girl's arms. I went through the girls in london on the wooden floor at proper from position is located. Both my elbows tore all the muscles in my left. Del votes mashed vote. My radius bones in each arm and essentially just doing a lot of damage is lying on the floor. And i tried to hand on the grounds. Just flopped put my left hand. Tried to push salvo locked faith funds it again to roll over to a member of the audience and just say i'm genuinely her get the on it on. The girls goes to pick me up and show me back in the ring like dead. Setting is happening on a. I got taken straight to the back richly. I just sat there with both my arms talking unable to move on able like just in shock just like a already. I was just you know what i mean. I was just sitting there. Like the someone's gonna have to caulfield and at my bag over that room. If someone could get it for me then like you know. I left my watch out. Could pack of like just like scary cam and we didn't even want to wait for an ambulance. One of my friends. Who was there at. The venue took me hostile at it came with me. We wait until the match finished and she came with the hospital and then assumes the show would finish into the car. Wrestlers arrived at the ball. Yet it was. It was rough. Because i was in the emergency room. And they can't the date you couldn't say because you should put it into your arms you know the iv lines. And they couldn't do that to me was i. Yeah so they tried to put through my feasts they get. They bear in mind as well. I was also full makeup fish with an arrest costume at this stage. I look like a drag queen in the the er. I wielded under china. Japanese needles today and all these like insurance board must've around what happened because all these doctors had call them by for look and i'm just like yet to look at just pleased. Vain anywhere anywhere The ended up having to go to an anesthesiologist and they ended up. Having to put like you know when people are getting chemo and they get the ports in their neck I had to have them installed that night because they literally could not get anywhere else my body where they could save me have a look and see what the damage was from the point. I do not remember anything. Would apparently i was awake. And i was talking and apparently i hit on the doctor. Don't remember that. I know another restaurant of their of the handle. Gassing era were various various things was it was a young lady by the name of pasha doxa debate you even today but when he heard her so she was checking out the ambulance worker in the back of the ambulance. Some of the guys neck which is hilarious. So we'll have to. But i don't know whether it's just instinct because the look enough folks but well let's fix mirror the unless they they couldn't actually do anything. Got light anyway because it's so badly broken actually came to be the next day and he said door injuries are so bad. I don't feel complete operating on you. Said you said i can refer you to buy superior bookie retired in two weeks so he won't be able to do your after care or you can wait a week and you can see a specialist accused suspicious. And he goes. Her name is which is always a good signed me as well. Her name is dr flannery and she specializes in sports. Injuries specifically rugby be players and getting back to ban repeat. Now it's like yes that's once and he goes what i'm gonna be blown screen. You will never wrestle again. It's like okay. And he goes the operation. Probably give you back north mobility that you'll be able to feed yourself and be honest. My only goal now is that you're able to feed yourself. This is all over and it was like. This is a twenty four hours after the injury and open till then i'd be kind of laughing and joking time. It caught in what happened just like for dinner in the wheelchair strapped Saban at memorials there with me at the time. And two of my friend. Isa and l j cleary the hospital with me i like. Oh my god. I don't know how they manage it. They were so good they were just like let me cry. And they were just like yeah like what doctors know. and they're like those specialists. You know what the end of the day will come back and just think to. The of became the mantra. All richard appropriate was pink and the pop the pop because a week later i see the specialist and she was like i will have you back wrestling. She goes my take might take two years. I'll have you back these. Don't worry about and she has a way junior operation where she has like a really high success rate instead of putting play thin she pins i think is her method and yet she was a she was like. Yeah i'll have you back. Rustic no problem tastic and and as we now know did come back and you dig for. Ot tae and how was. I hope oh. Because i stuck in emotional thinking about it and i realize how lucky i was that my recovery in both the facilities had to recover on the people around me. Though i went operation my operation was eight hours log. deputy child. Who's one of my best spend. Real-life was there for the entire eight hours waiting on me to waco at the night before i went by operation. Valkyrie was in my sitting room. A game of thrones fox saddlebag chocolate that she at me. Because i couldn't eat myself. You know. I just had like the best support. This them honestly. I fail as well. No he was still working. And i need both pine care for the first three months. Mark resigned of movement home. My mom and again. I'm very lucky. I know i could do that. And but it just made that recovery so much easier because initially of all the houses focused on. I think over the course of the next nine months i think i had forty one hospital appointment keys or big ios doctors all the rest of it and so yeah like i was very lucky to carry received on. I actually came back knowing my injury which is crazy not knowing originally is going to be at least year You know where that would left me coming back twenty twenty. I don't know whether it was a thing in my head where i knew. Twenty twenty wasn't going to work out so was in october. Though the matches october the setup was in september and valkyrie had just had so. I think it's i think it's important. They involving the metro by her debbie and baa-3 so after my injury and we kind of agree that they would play to this. And that's when they became the wo- quin which is actually really cool. So yeah they they had been putting out like these fire promos like if you want good promos go back and watch the wo- queen almost from that year. They are so funny. they're the character. Work is on another level though they had been kind of building. Like this'll true promos cookley all year. Unlike people i didn't even let people know as training. I kept everything completely secret. The only people who knew is training hopeless people bite factory. And i actually posted pictures of me. Put my cast back on for pictures like match so they have been kind of me building the onscreen and it got to the stage where valkyrie won the ot title. She was going on this like monster. Cool he enrolled. He'll run all the way through. And i think she'd just Belshaw on one of the shows accent much. They're of cutting a promo of at like nobody could stop them. Based on that. You know like there was nothing that was gonna like. No one could take this title lawford. She'd gone through everyone on my music. It will what sean the guy who worked. Joe defeated keep. Change the star of my music just slightly though i you kinda here. It like this like mine. Music kicked in. I like make me entrant. I can't even describe the emotion. I felt because people were so genuinely shocked. Unsold genuinely happy just overwhelmed me. I remember looking at one of my friends in the front row. Can we actually podcast together. Every week. i hadn't even told him i was back. Trading like it was unbelievable. I caught my little promo like fire. People want to see this match it so good but the most important things news. When i backstage dead all my friends had loaned. Open the corridors. So and i walked backstage. Everyone was standing there. Standing and cap'n from you like a little stan ovation off alaska lost. Start start pushing tears. You know what i mean. I i hadn't really let myself cry. It all all the way through the recovery and it was like not moment does like okay. I'm back. I can let it all go now like a true where so i can just feel all these motion found. It's all good though. We had the the match a month later. The national stadium though it was okay teased. Big show two thousand people and which was incredible week Good time the match and we basically just told we could do the story. We wanted to do so. We had knee. We'd valkyrie. debbie weather. We did the big like debbie gets caught cheating sense to the back to me. The coping is being like a third member of the royal queens up until that points i call defector. They see sexier had been the guy who originally started wrestling with an. It'd be the first person i ever managed to wrestling. Though he came a mike coroner stadium and it was just this really nice full circle moment of like my comeback match involved. All these people who informed warns me and in my career on it was just unbelievable. But i remember getting back to the dressing room for tennis. 'cause my mom and she's just like just tell me your fight and then you can join the night we read moms have to great other loves of a flow on will that locker room backstage ocoee that appearance versed on back the say to say that that was just amazing memory. When you injured yourself a nice i saw people motherlode if and when you when you hurt yourself. It was hardly obey of a burglary so play down and not the must message fell and i said if you were what the fuck happened. So yeah like he. she's completely annihilated. Rawls like she's gotten along like excuse me a little boom boom. Your is your irene. Paid it down. Because i rang my mouth. The hustle like mom. I'm after getting hurt. And the rest of them in the hospital and she was like she was babysitting. My niece that night and like is bad enough. That i need to bring your niece back to your brother. Unwelcome over now or religious. Come over tomorrow. A knee highs. I was like oh behold dinner tomorrow. Don't you worry it l. Bless bless ya so what we say. I'm jay treaty. Twenty twenty as we know we did eve and the world decided to shot down which is great. There has been other things that have been going on in each one eight and we will speak about now and that as hashtag speaking. Now i'm going to speak about it more in a positive light. Mitchell now sounds big box out. The back of what has happened on what has been brought to light. You have been involved in trying to get the safeguarding going in orland and trying to get a committee together. A people to try and respects the safeguarding. And what trying and stop what had happened in speaking now happening again. Versi how you fading of the back of speaking out and place as a little bit more about what you guys you'll group and what you guys are up. Yeah so obviously. Bacon out happened last summer. It was just devastate on different levels and a lot of people. I consider friends and came up with stories like girls came out with stories and i was like i feel i feel so embarrassed but like i wish i knew i could help you. You know what i mean. I felt blindsided on. I didn't know this happening view. I feel awful and you know this is awful that you felt you were in a situation that you couldn't tell me or anyone else and after some discussions i kind of have my own stories. Tell as well where you know. I start wrestling years ago on a lot of incidence. The happening by frisky years wrestling. I never realized. Weren't you know for back then. It was oh this is the business. This is how it goes this. Is you know this is what happened. You just kind of stuck conglomerate. So i had like had to kind of deal. My own emotions. In that regard being like shit was complicit. Because the happened. I never said anything. I just put it in a box and moved on. So have the kind of deal with all my own feelings. Kind of regard not sorta stuff and then of course you have things coming out against people who you might consider colleagues or friends. And that's the whole thing that you have to deal with so feel like kinda economic kind of height of affected people on three different levels that way so there with your friends of your own. You know be accused store. And it's a lot to process on the lot to process when you're processing on twitter in one hundred forty characters and one of the mistakes. I made with the start. Eg- no is hank. I didn't do real life work you know. I think that's what i'm doing now. And most important and for pretty vocal speaking out. And i don't regret any of thought. And why why have denied those. I've come off twitter and the media. Because i just feel like there's not. There's not enough new on twitter. Have proper real-life scary discussions. The i've come off social media to have those discussions in real life and so what we're doing now with. The committee is all in schools in ireland for had their own safeguards in bates anyway. Some of them needed theories pushing up some needed added to them. But you know they were starting to get there. The business in ireland has come a long way. Just hadn't lombarno but the idea behind. This committee is the finally communicate between all the rest. The schools like. hey i've got a concoction policy. Do you have one of those. Oh i've got an anti bullying policy. Do you have everything. I haven't in your school but the bill getting consistency across the schools. Both be able to hold each other accountable. So if someone bob core has an issue with you know somebody there. They could realistically e. mail trainer dublin. Have like a third impartial person. Investigate that in the only problem with this is it takes a long time to implement on. It takes a lot of research on a take a lot of hard work. I know people are very upset and angry because speaking. Oh i am too. It's just unfortunate does take time to get this stuff in face. So that's what we're kinda do now. And in a way the pandemic is a is a blessing because we have time to have those conversations with time to have those meetings with chimed it the paperwork. I don't know what the uk is like in our. We don't have a governing body for arresting argument doesn't acknowledge addressing really in any way so it's not like we can go to An association on eight their there safeguards on take their training and all that we have to create them ourselves. Scratch now an even within that. There's still a lot legally polls have investigated as though like dot is where we're out with the committee enough. What we're trying to do and so we're speaking to the restaurants gould's Tweet other we're going to try. Get something more official open running and but the main thing is just. I just want to know that something is being done that there is still going on. you know. even if things aren't a hundred percent open running is still things they can do for having issues though like. I can only speak for fight factory now so we have a code of conduct. We haven't for social media we have overtraining. We haven't communicate with each other. You know we share them and are groups. We have regular zoom calls. We have a disciplinary procedures. So every training okay. I'm having a problem with this trainer. I can go to this person person to person like we. We appointed debbie. Talent are finding talent as on so if someone's having an issue a coach they don't have to bring it directly to a coach and kind of risk if they feel retaliation or anything. They can bring into debbie unless she decides who gets passed onto. We've also said a guarded liaison for the guard. Is the police over here so if somebody you know once report anything that possibly illegal or or abusive they can go. Speak to the garda. And then guarded isn't going to take action straightaway. He'll say you know what. I'm going to bring debbie. I'm gonna bring you to katy or i'm going to bring it to the station or i'm going to contact your parents depending on the age and the dot thought we're trying to establish well was what we do have stop. Shouldn't fight factory so the boat. Just trying to branch dot korda still across. The country is what we're trying to do in the wake speaking. Yeah that's really good a decision to this. And i'm sitting thinking i don't think at this moment in time if i'm having my heart from what i am aware is going on in. This country is detailed that. I have to commend you for like an. I really hope that oldest goes in ireland. No matter where they are in they come aboard and sinus was again. We dive a governing body guy. We have the parliamentary group who has now jumps and which is across paul e. groups. He got labour. Lib dem's conservative policy all together on this and they're going through their findings moment after a big chat of and speaking to asia. Spoken to them has been involved in various other restaurants to have been speaking to them giving their evidence and given their opinions And been speaking to the committee and we have equity trying to do some so standards as a union of and get not but like with the link with the police force that you signed with the guard there. I don't think we've got that level over here at eight. Something a really hope is something that we can get involved and gap or was he with police forces over here so we can get laxest copy protection for everybody. I completely agree. It's is very much with speaking out is a lot of process at every stage. View your story as a someone who is there at the time Someone who had something unfortunately happened to them or someone who was friends with someone. I think people need who listening need to remember the still human behind those one hundred forty characters that get spoken about them and social media can be a great toll can be right at the same time. Yeah this is the thing. Like i was generally even my soc made completely open to conversations on like a good like i feel terrible for the fans situation. I i understand that it is devastate in. It's someone you looked up to turns out to not be a good person. I've had it celebrities at side wrestling. You know where. I've been on someone's working then find out. Oh shit you know what. I mean especially at wrestling inc because the fans knew wrestlers much much coast relationship. I understand how devastating it can be on. I genuinely do feel for the fans. And i've always left kind of like my email and stuff open of aunts have gotten kind of talk offering ideas and all the rest of the on. I will always have open to them. The just the one thing. I need to do recently. Came off twitter with because just sometimes reading so much cheddar the charters not directly to you but those situations i just very hard me mentally you know. Just because it coincided coppola of probably about ten months ago he came off twitter it coincided with the announcement of the lockdown in ireland which will extremely hard adb so we was just kinda. It was just a lot. I just felt like i was going on like this isn't just wrestling twitter. This is all my social media. I should like every time i logged on. It was negative. It was you know. put me down. I'm i'm kind of friend. My friends call me at empathy. Sponge where it's like sometimes if i just throw myself about even if it's not directly affected me i kinda toward the negative energy kind of bring myself down on a field are kind of happiness will. I'm not going to be any goods. Anyone if i if i'm like you know i mean though i'm talking to people who've had issues privately and unhealthy people by eight on. I'm trying to set forth and i'm just. I'm not going to be good at that part of job on taking on you know this kind of negative energy. I don't like negative energy to see if feels like p percents that way deliberately to me. It's not it's just. It's just i not a good place in my own head so i was just taking on badness all day every day i just had to basically come off. Social media cleanse myself a little bit. So i could be more active in in the organizational side of pain. She could against situation fix rather than being involved not been voted the wrong fries but being absorbed in the situation needs to step back sometimes to fix it. Now i get that hundred. Get that other question if you don't mind and do free to answer. Do you think the speaking out would happen in the level that date it. The pandemic has not happened. No absolutely no but this is why. I'm glad i've ever glad that we had a pandemic boss. If we look at the positives the came out with the pandemic. i think people south protected speaking out. Because it's not like they have to show the training next. It's not like they have to show the show. It not like their bookings are in jeopardy. So i think that tens of like i have the freedom to do this now. You know. I have strength. I don't have to as people. If i don't think i could face the i can actually speak my truth and then i can spend time dealing with it so i do think that's. That's a positive side. And i do think people again had time talking to each other and have conversations. So i don't think it would have happened. The pandemic eappen. And you know. I just i just hope. People are genuinely take more time than process than heal africa because it is a very scary thing we can you know. I just hope anyone who kind of had a big story to taylor even small story to tell i just feel like i just hope that looking to offer themselves. They're just taking a deep breath and they're they're just kinda worked through everything nice. I completely. Yeah hundred centigrade has a greater. You know who has had a story hueys. Maybe listen to this all feels. Maybe now they're at a better price. They were having to hold the truth in and they have the support people out there. We do support and do be aware that there are people are here to help you and hopefully help the industry moving forward on going to spin back and osi speak to you about the lovely miss rebecca knox now known as becky leitch as you know you've see she was that she was that one hook do in all those many many years ago. You have wrestled haven't e since the opportunity to do that for she's going into the luxury line of vwa rat though. He is a person votes. Who don't read by. How how is she a couple times and she seems to make the exact person that she's wise been that go she's just she hasn't find as goto the head so thank you think she's just how how's it on in her house. It seen her rent and fergal being the flagship for radio there and shaima before them. I've honestly i don't actually know shame at all. I've never met him quite. He was part of the status of air quotes rival school. I w w my memory serves right. So yeah so i i would no. I would know a. I'm becky like it. Had more experience with them becky. She's always been really really nice me so when i first start rest and she had kinda cold overestimate because she was dealing with concussion injuries i think and then she decided to come back and i think she was either signed already columbus or she was signed very coats after she came back but it all it all happened very quickly so i only go up probably got to train where there for lemond and while i found about it is unbelievable the respect she commanded them realize like she walked icon to the math and it was just like there becky hard at work you know what i mean. She was just under stories. That i told me on parman. She wrestled first time random yet. She's only grow down there twenty. She's doing just as many pushups she's doing just as many spots. She is drew about worker on. She kinda came back the second time. We've got five while getting stuck into everything straightaway. Aloes remember one night. A trade and me and her were partners and we were doing a logger. peanut resume. Forget the main flow over like items looked up to becky even after And and i had followed like her shimmer still felt like you know all her indies though from when she was an eve and stuff like that and we do overs lake wiktor and she did a flow over and then she just like starts screaming and i was like jeeva quarterback and she's like time a nail to flow over holy shit. I was like this is like it's cool that you're so excited like you're your combat dressed in. You're such a big deal to me on your so excited that you just nailed a flow over and try to and i was just like i said i want to always be like that train. You know what i mean like. I just always wanted to be working on trying to do a good job like her. And then and then she agreed like fortunate back the beach like a couple of matches so we did a six man tag where she teamed with myself and be cool. Anyone who watches. Ot she'll be cool. We doing this thing where she was the face our team and we were to heal and we're kind of not letting her tag in like bullying or whatever on the match ends her beating the crap to above. That was really fun. But then she's like agreed to do a mixed tag match again where we'd be against each other and she was just unbelievable to work with. She soaked a good head for wrestling And like i just remember. I probably maybe three years into wrestling of feeling like i knew northern because she was so good but she was never mike boastful or like made me feel like she was pulling a card or she was just so good to work with is like just in the ring. Like oh i'm working with a pro now a she. She knows what to do. She's telling me what to do. She's telling me why to do an learning offer by just working winter. So i always. I always talk. That was just really cool. I would've loved her rescuer more and but one thing the her on fergal have done. I really shakes while they've come back by factories since they've made a big in debris so burgos duchy dropped by good few times and we used to bray where he's from as well so he would literally just throw into train and unlike we would never tell people in advanced when he's calling because you know you wanted to be for the people who are there working hard so he would just walk in and he would just she just got on that rolling and give advice start training people. I remember my bird ever match and we were doing a weekend comes trading. Bray frago was taken the camp and when the exercises coming towards the end of the day. Whoa that just wrestling for five minutes on the flight and the role for three minutes and it would arolla and he he goes me. You want to you. Want to be next am i just i just. He's like you wanted to the drill. Next bill came over. And just those though. Frugal sheets haven't heard first. Ever match on the jim show later and i can guarantee that she she does not have the heads through this right. Now it's like okay. Come on come on your batch. I like now. I look at mortified. You know what. I mean a three minute mac. Different burgled devon. He's always been really nice that way again. I remember we'd get a really big show in dublin in a in a theater and doubles center and he was home for the weekend. He said like come watch. Give the gift allowed feedback on it. He walked backstage for matching. I was so nervous. As i was at the big show at ever doing lying on the floor he comes in. Looks you katie yet. Just to get sick and he just goes. Look not poco dome. You'll be ground. Is i could just walking up and the guy in your legs lightly literally the wash the match just to show. You can like just conc- in doing it. That's the best part it adopted one. That's a throw nice always just you know really like whenever either of them comex by factory. It's just he can tell they're genuine. The people are getting on they. Just wanna see how the schools go. They just want to touch basic people on just again. It's that community and a train is about. We want to try foster where people are looking after each other. As i said he was recording broadcast just before we hopped on the listening to his and he said that really struck me about him by factory. Just saying that and a locker room is a team. And i've never thought about it like that for the truest thing resting. I've ever heard a locker room is a team. You're working on a good show together. Not just look after your own match And i think that has kinda cold from people like fergal mbeki even when they've hit the big time they're still coming down even even if al green. Oh she's dealing year. She's still down there. Scrubbing the math than like looking after people an answering questions and you know what i mean i can never see her loose nut side of herself either. Because it's just ingrained in there to help people and i'd like to pink. That's the kind of thing we austin by a factory on it you know. It's like they continue familiar at the of the training scope to us and a good training school. They remember what it sounds. Remember where it come from and what it took to get there. It's it's one of those that's awesome to hear. And i'm i'm really pleased for five factory if you are in island when the pandemic is over do checkout Factory it's such a dry as such a good training school you gotta be. Well looked after their with sound things of their figures coming out and you know enjoy in the end of the day. Just sit there and enjoy it sacred before we got. No you personally are not on social media but you mentioned you. Poke the podcast. And you've mentioned factory. Where can they find them on social media. Oh yes the podcast actually is called and it's done hashtag. Low blows or the low blows network on twitter instagram. You'll find it. They're basically it's just a weekly catcher on wrestling and a lot of fun to do and it's flu things. Dangerous pandemic and then by factory rep fightback resting on facebook. Instagram social media. We love having people visit as well so over. The past years people from australia from japan for next america coming over will always do our best to find you somewhere to say will always take you for a point as i show you like so yes i remember three. Im wo columbus tramlines in dublin. Trying to find my way back to the hotel with you fail and kris. Okay bob so you definitely see the sights the doubling we feel around the phone lines. It's fine was an hour. We're walking like an arab. I actually walked them. Trump again new today on. It's it. I just think there was a lot chat and a lot of very mental log. The tramlines was it somebody they strive lonzo elder lewis those the lewis in the land and to say he said you are how in the lowest evil physically on their own. Use the trial. And i and so. He's pleasure catching up. Hope you're wells allowed to fill and thank you again. It's been awesome thank you. It's been great. Chuck you guys. That's again another from an insightful conversation. I fail every time. I'm speaking to these guests on. Learn something new which is always a good thing. Learn something new. Every day as i have been told as the moscow railway. So i've enjoyed his procast. Please stay tuned and join us for next week's po costco's roll up. Roll up the debonair. Mystic charles crowley is my guest in next week's episode of the suplex so stay tuned for that one but until then. I hope you'll have a good week. Enjoy knights who have wrestlemainia. And i'll see you on next week's episode.

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The Theology of John

Understand the God Who Speaks

54:03 min | 5 months ago

The Theology of John

"Welcome to understand. The god who speaks we are christian. Video podcast ministry financially supporting missionaries across the globe we interview theologians and experts from all spectrums of positions on biblical topics subjects and we offer bible studies on the deeper things of guy. If you feel our ministry has value we see financial in prayer support. You can support us through our website. Understand the god who speaks dot com before we get started. Click the subscribe button. And like but if you're watching this through our social media channels so let's welcome dole moreau founder of understand the god who speaks and your host. Hi my name is gail morelle. I'm founder of understand. God who speaks and we are missionary based ministry We support missionaries around the world and to dang. Were prudish to have back with us dr. Andreas kosta a pasta's burger. And just to give you a little blurb about who he is dr koss burgers research professor of new testament at biblical theology and director of the center of biblical studies midwestern baptist theological seminary he's also founder of biblical foundations an organization devoted to encourage a return to the biblical foundations of home church and society. And what mud of my favorite books that that we actually talked last time about was signs of the messiah is a great book. If you haven't gotten it. I suggest you get it. You can find it on amazon as well as he's also has a book a theology of gospel which i highly recommend to If that we're going to talk about john today about some passages that relate to john as well as some of the theology of john and who better else could give us that. The other than dr costume burger so dr costume burger. I have Let's start out with the one question and this has to do with the the first chapter of john. Of course it which is the opening words. Which is you know of. What is the relationship between the word and god in In john one one. Oh yeah. that's a simple question and yet so very profound You know that That john's prolong john's gospel starts out With this allusion to the book of genesis in the beginning but then he doesn't continue. God created the heavens and the earth it says in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and so His readers clearly they would have known the creation account and they would have known that they repeatedly it says outspoken and Various things came into being and so that's the backdrop but what is really striking Here is that John affirms theories is second person within the god head because You know the referenda off the greek word. Ceos is in the one hand got the father. The word was with god but then also the word was himself god. So there's two person that are distinct and yet very closely related to the point of being united It makes you think Later in the gospel. Jesus himself declares the father and i are one. And incidentally there in the greek the word for one Unlike an english in greek that word is gender so it can be you know masculine feminine or neuter and it is neuter there so he doesn't talk about. The father are one person but rather they are one mt. well they're one God head and we know that. That's do jewish opponents of jesus understood him to be saying because they promptly You know set out to stone him on account of blasphemy. They they fully understood that jesus was claiming to be god so that would be the first important a thing we learn about the relationship between the word and god secondly we also learned that the word is agent of creation and we see that implicitly in the genesis chapter one. the john makes it more explicit. We know that god created everything. There is through the word in his. I mentioned in genesis it becomes some sort of a constant Refried that the universe came into being when god spoke and and so we see jesus as the agent of creation in any got an in john's gospel. We see he's also the agent of salvation so both in creation and in salvation. Jesus is the agent. And the way john presents if the father sent the sun and the sun accomplished his earthly mission in subsequently returned to the one who sent him. I think it's fascinating that that john has what what is often called a sending crystallography Jesus doesn't claim to comment his own name on his own authority especially in john constantly refers to the father's the one who sent him and is a passage deal that i'm sure you know well as ahah fifty five verse eleven which talks about You know god's ways are not our ways and it says god sends the rain. He sends his Dislike there any sense of word and his word will not return to md but he will accomplish the purpose for weeks god senate and then he will return back to the one who sent it so we see here. The entire framework of john's sending dollar jesus is sent by going. Jesus the word then. He accomplishes his mission on earth and then he returns to the one who sent him. So i think this is not even the original with john. he he borrows from the is area. And so the word. Share scott's dandy That's the first point. And secondly the word is related to god in terms of agency now for listeners. Her interest in a topic though. If i may just point out in my book father son and spirit of the very first chapter is devoted to the topic of jewish monotheism the belief in one god and jesus claim to deity in johnston ospel. You know we look at that claim and we probably many of us think of the trinity comprised of three persons but constituting one god but first century jews. You know when they listened to jesus claims even when the right john's gospel they would have sought of their belief in monotheism. The fact that there's only one god that was the confessional jewish The foundation jewish confession in the bogus deuteronomy missino hero israel. The lord your god. The lord is one Deuteronomy six four is recited every sabbath. you know in in the synagogues and so you can see for first century jew. Jesus claimed the deity of appeared to violate the oneness of god. And that's i think why. It's so remarkable. They john of course himself was a devout jew came to the conclusion that chama that standard jewish condition notwithstanding jesus was gone and yet he managed to reconcile that believes with the conviction that there's only one god and so i think here we find the seeds for would later in the early church. Councils and creeds would become the christian doctrine of the trinity. Awesome great rishi edgy saying that I have a question With especially with Proverb the eight chapter versus two three hundred. Eighty one relate to to that word. That's mitch and in john one one and psalm thirty three verses six through twelve. What's the relationship between bad. I believe john was alluding to that. Maybe i'm wrong. It's a good question and it's it's as often as to whether or not you know the depiction enough of wisdom being god's side creation. There's at lengthy passage in improper aid. If if that's maybe behind John's a reference year I think the two places that i mentioned a minute ago. A genesis one and those ama fifty five probably are the primary ones. I think the difference between proverbs. Eight in john one is that in proverbs eight. You basically have wished Being a personification in other words it's a it's a concept right that is personified Presented as a person but in john one would we see is actually jesus. Is the person that this is. Not just the personification of an idea so at the very least john is taking that image. A very decisive step further To talk about cheeses incarnation he becomes a flash and and takes on humanity Without giving up his deity so he is the god man and he needs to be john to be seven list. needs to be humid. Die for some across and so That's the i think the essence event of john's Message in the prologue. oh great. let's move on up the second question. john one fourteen. Now it takes several old testament passages in it links them together. I believe in in this particular passage as messed exodus. Thirty four six and seven Exodus thirty three twelve through Thirty four ten and that really comes more from the i. Guess the set to agent and for those that Those that ah don't know who dissent. What the subdued gene is. That was a that was the translation of the hebrew. Bible onto the greek under ptolemy the second of philadelphia's he was the at that time of He was a or is a macedonian king of egypt when he you know commission seven dollars to get together to create but explain. John's meany of john morton l. That set two translation to greek. Translation was actually the bible of early christians. Many of them didn't necessarily read the bible in hebrew or aramaic. But they read it in in the great because great was very widespread. It's kinda like english today. In many parts of the world and so then when they would cite the old testament in the greek no testament they would often cite. the the greeks of tuition now was was britain between two forty six and I mean to eighty five to forty six. Be somewhere around in there. Yeah i think the letter of the riskiest is our background source for that. Where talks about that. I think that's when the student was first commissioned. I believe because of the fact that there are many people who didn't understand the original language. Show the oldest hebrew anymore and as a result Exactly that. That translation was commissioned John fourteen chapter one fourteen and you mentioned the excellent. I think those are some of the key passages that are behind those lost five verses in the prologue You know john one fourteen through eighteen In john one fourteen it says the word became flesh and dwelt among us and we have seen his glory. Glory as of the only son from the father full of grace and truth. And so you can look at both. Had the phrase grace and truth and he can look at the The dual reference to laurie. And you see that both are found in that set of passages. You mentioned the exodus. Thirty three hundred four also chapter forty round so grace and truth in the greek. Of course the word search us there are cars for grace and then they afoot truth Now in exodus thirty four six it says the lord passed before moses as when he gave him a second copy of the ten commandments and proclaimed and is now the lord speaking the moses the lord the lord god full and gracious slow to anger and the bounding in and here comes steadfast love and faithfulness. And so i think many believe at that that that there's a similarity between love and faithfulness in the hebrew in then grayson truth in the greek and the reason for that is because the word truth in the hebrew has to do with loyalty and faithfulness. Truth is not just some sort of an abstract a cognitive or actual concept it is actually got being faithful to the covenant that he has made with his people and so i think Many believe in. John one fourteen you have is echo of ad phrased steadfast love and faithfulness in thirty four six. So jesus is expressing god's covenant faithfulness by visiting his people dwelling among us taking on Humanity in any condition when it comes to this reference to glory as you mentioned the exodus thirty three think i eighteen moses ascott famously show me your glory and then in response god replies you know someone in any medically that no one can see him and live but he says he will let his blurry pass by moses. He will place moses in the cleft of iraq and cover moses face with his hand in when he's passed by he will remove his hand so moses can see god's back as it were you know he can't see the guts face In live but he can see whatever that exactly means you know. The back of god's glory So i think john. One eighteen likely alludes to this incident. Also because they're john writes no no one has ever seen god and so i think they began. The the digitally literate jew would immediately thought of someone like moses and his request To see god which was kinda sort of declined And then later in exodus. Forty that third passage you mentioned moses is shown to build the tabernacle and it says the glory of the lord filled the tabernacle lennon. Of course later. The same is said about solomon's temple the glory of lord of filled the temple. So there you have this really rich You know temple theme if you will. The seem of god's presence coming to visit his people which climb matches in visas coming to reveal god in the flesh and so even though nobody could see god people could see jesus and so jesus was that visible expression. The word right that that helped us see god of course is invisible and the human i can truly see and is the glory it's ties to actually chapter to bercy levin when the first sign was done in it says this africa how the passage breach what. This is the first time that cheeses dead and his disciples saw his glory and they believed So you're exactly right. In in one fourteen inches we have seen his glory but then the first time in the narrative to actually see these story is it that i sign. So that's why even in my book signs of the messiah right. I mean i. I tried to show how jesus ms sandy signs are. Those manifestations of god's glory is power is is splendor is is You know being being god and no one else is okay. Thank you Let's move on to number four yacht. Number four is it. This is a question that actually i think is sort of controversial to some people but it's johnson thirty four lanes to psalm. Eighty two six and those who don't know what some eighty two six is in talks about that. Ye shall be gods and jesus is quoting that song especially i But it might opinion in. I think that it ordered gutter. Stand dead vers. We have to understand it within the context especially bursts thirty eight where jeep says it. You know i want to show you what kind of son of god i am. And he says i am in the podfather and the father is in me. That's the kind of son of god. I am at and i think so. My question is is that the context and to what what does jesus have in mine. Yeah i think Definitely you're on the right track there again just for our listeners. Who want more detail Here's a a very helpful book on the use of the old testament in the new. And i think some of our questions deal with that and it is a book called a commentary on the new testament use of the old estimates. It's edited by two. Eminent scholars. Greg beale and and don carson and so i had the privilege of contributed contributing The entry on john's gospel to that. And i'm saying that because there's a lot of detail and the this comes at at climax of an interchange between jesus and the jewish of thirties were in chapter ten of john now You know this. Is these already engaged in public ministry for probably three years or so and they are once again ready to stone him and we mentioned that earlier on account of blasphemy because he claimed to be god and essentially would jesus says is well not so fast. Is it not written in your law. I said you are gods. And then he says if he called them god still on. The word of god came in scripture cannot be broken. Do you save him. The father concentrated and send into the world europe blaspheming. Because i said on the son of god and as you mentioned you know there's different interpretations of course of ad Original passage from psalm. Eighty two. But i believe what jesus is saying here. Is that in the old testament. There are times when humans or possibly even angels were called. God's the hebrew lehem so it claim to be god doesn't necessarily amount to blasphemy. Of course jesus was no mere human and so he he actually did claim to be god. But but i think this is more like assad across the bow telling josiah authorities. That'd be a little bit more cautious into judgment regarding jesus true identity and then jesus goes on you know moving toward verse thirty eight which you mentioned To offer his works as proof that he is he says he is and then he declares the father is in me. And i'm in the father in other words. He says he's not doing his works independently from god the father but in a very real sense. It's the father working through. Jesus who is doing his works in again. He'd relates to that first question. We're about the idea that you have god working through. Jesus also is god Today we would the second person of the trinity and so in that sense. Jesus in the father are united in their mission. They are one is. Jesus had asserted right before that passage riding john. Ten thirty. the father. And i are one so to your point. Yes i agree. Jesus is using that quote to establish that. What kind of claim the deity he. He was asserting their and it's not this. Independent is not a second eating right and scholars called a dicey as the belief in the existence of to god's no he affirmed that he was taken into the identity of the one god that the jews already believed in. Now i know for us. That's a little bit hard to understand and again. We're thinking trinity. While first century jews were more thinking monotheism But either way you have this assertion of of the unity of jesus with god the father and that's of course what the question was all about was jesus we claim to be. Dd really come. From god or not. And that's john entire purposes right. I've written these things. John twenty verse thirty that you may know jesus is the messiah in tucson got but i i gather the I have a little bit different. Twist on it and you can correct me wrong when he mentions when he quotes psalm. Eighty two six. I think he's saying. Hey i just want to remind you guys that there are other sons of god but He says but i want to show you what kind of son of god i l. And then he. He goes down to verse thirty eight where he says. This is the kind of son of god i am. Which is you in. Different than the sums of god that are mentioned in psalm. Eighty two six am i. Am i wrong in making that assumption. Well i think in in in the context. As i mentioned the jews are getting ready to stone him immediately preceding verse shepherd tenders thirty three and so it's almost like he's saying wait a minute you know you're wanting to stole me any kind of blasphemy. Merely because i claimed to be the son of god and then he adduces that it's song were certain individuals are referred to as gods Not necessarily in a negative light than so he's saying well there's a range of of Of people to whom that term god's may may be applied into lynch think for a minute you know It's not necessarily Wrong for someone to irrigate the time. The jews were implying by nearly wanting to blast premiums. I think he just is using scripture so skilfully like he always does and he's telling the his jewish opponents in your own words in your own lawn your own scriptures if you read them carefully enough there are places where people are referred to as as gods any dozen violate the jewish belief in monotheist. So at least you know one possible interpretation of of jesus argument which admittedly somewhat implicit and so part of it. You have to read between the lines in context. You know the ton of infer what. He's getting out there all right. Let's move to number five. Now here's a question and this is more of a personal question that i wanted and john nineteen one john. Nineteen once again pilot therefore took and he uses the greek word lombardo then he says took jesus and flog did. He uses another greek word. Caught must be gatto and and so is in. He walked him now. I actually have two questions out of that. I want to ask number one. Lombarno appears in passages such as matthew twenty four versus forty and forty one and. This is the passage. I think that many evangelicals have mistaken. They have taken this passage and said you know They assumed that the one st taken because he uses. That word uses that word lombardo. In in verses forty and forty one wants taken are the ones that are being taken off or bliss in heaven and the ones left behinds are the ones actually left for judgement when i think it's the reverse that That refers to that in this refers to people that believe in the rapture. And you know stuff like that now So am i wrong in in in deducing. That that word. Lombardo has that meaning of being taken off for judgment by force Well again. That gets into work study which i'm glad you're raising that because that's very important and a lot of what we do in. Studying scripture has to do with word meanings look at words in different contexts And i think what what people always often talk about his dating different contexts and word can mean a variety of things. You can mean just about anything right. But there's a certain range of meaning and so to your point Lombardo generally means take. But i as far as i know the word Take by fours is isd is not part of a core meaning about word as such. I think the word simply means teigen. Then depending on the context it's fleshed out what kind of taking his in mind so It could be a positive taking negative taking you know. So i believe it would be improper to take the meaning of lombardo in one context where it means take by force and then you know mandate must mean that in a different context he could mean that but it it may not so of course. All i'm saying is he doesn't necessarily settled a question of of whether or not matthew twenty four i to the rapture. I'm just saying that. The meaning of lombardo couldn't be in my view legitimate part of settling that question. Because i think you need to look at the context matthew twenty four to see what's the meaning of that word their resume to just kind of appealing to it means that over there. So that's what he must mean here. Her context seems to be that noah in his family were the ones tankan. I mean the the ones that are. Excuse me the once actually taken were the ones that taken. How can i say this. I guess i'm getting this at my mind. I'm trying to say that. It seems that noah in his family the ones that are being saved for her righteousness whereas the ones that were left behind were the actual You know the the ones that the blood destroyed Well i guess that were going over to matthew and again to get us off of that just they not because i. I think that those were the word is the same in both of those passages that we've mentioned we don't have that and i guess second question is has to do the mazda gobbo. Which is the word. That is used for log now in the sept september in that Hebrew battle. It was translated into the greek. The that word is connected to isaiah. Fifty bursts six and so Do you believe john willfully made this connection between the two passages. And if so is john showing jesus had will build the isaiah passage. Yeah i would think that that is a possibly not likely allusion. Especially when you consider. How trait lee. John uses isaiah elsewhere. Rape talked about his sankar dollar. There's of course two very important references thursday at the chapter twelve So yes i think this would show. John believed jesus fulfilled. What it says in that passage in isaiah fifty six about these striking of the servant of the lord And of course as you know there's John coach isaiah fifty three verse one in in john. Twelve thirty eight. I believe it is. You know who is believed our message which is part of of another servants song in isaiah. Clearly johnny steepen in zanik of language. And i think that's actually very important You know the passage. You mentioned to show that that. Yeah john conceived of jesus asaias serving the lord and and then many details match that description of a servant in the book of isaiah of k. Yeah number six. The water imagery that pervades the gospel. John is found in the first nine chapters and it also interacts with some of the larger themes such as when jesus was on the cross and the water and the blood came out and things like that so My question is on giancana. Takes us back to genesis one and two and he a takes us back to the exodus and various places. Were watering the own shoes. So what does. John wished to tell us in the water. Imagery is there. is there more than one meaning. Is there just several days. What what do you think he getting. Water imagery glad you raised that question because yeah. There's numerous references to water in the gospel of john. You really do. Have a pretty robust. The water got to image jerry of the whole trajectory. And i i believe there's whole monographs written on that so weekend just kind of touched a surface year but you mentioned that water is is mentioned in the old testament that creation is mentioned that the flood of course Then again the parting of the red sea very important and later moses bringing a water from the rock during the exodus so those are the all be part of the the biblical water motif but then when he come to john's gospel of course again In a given instance. I think it's important to look at well. What's the most likely background you know for for that particular reference. A for example in. John waters mentioned that the qena wedding is also mentioned in jesus conversation with nicodemus when when jesus speaks of being born of water and spirit. I think that's john. Three five is mentioned in jesus conversation with the samaritan woman at the well where jesus talks about giving her living water than a defensive tabernacles. Jesus says that water will flow from the innermost being of those who believe in him. And you mentioned the reference of water and blood emanating from jesus body of the cross when when the soldier throws his spear into side So i think. On the broadest level water in the bible signifies life or in some case as the flood not the destruction of life or judgment And i think that fits with john's eternal life terminology which is very very prominent now looking at princeton new births water and spirit. I think many detect there a an echo. An allusion to ezekiel thirty six which talks about the new covenant. Any talks about cleansing and renewal. Which is you know one of the properties of water that it the clean things with water into talks about the idea of spiritual cleansing that is part of this new spiritual birth Talking about the tena wedding There again you have this idea of cleansing and purification but really interesting is there. Jesus turns water into wine. He doesn't just use the water. And so i think there you have this idea of he brain. He came to bring this misiani joy as the heavenly bridegroom. Remember it mentions in in the in the next chapter chapter three john. The baptist says that he's the friend of the bridegroom. And and jesus the bridegroom's. I think there's that idea so. The water motif is very versatile in scripture and the instances of the water moved even john's gospel. They're given against at that larger backdrop. So i i don't think kind of one-size-fits-all it's almost like a kaleidoscope. And he just look at the whole range of and in water such broad motif and so it has multiple applications but if i may Essentially opportunity to talk to our listeners. For a moment about you know how to responsibly. interpret Especially metaphors you know. Ended the very idea about metaphors. Estate there malleable to to the multiple meanings that there's a british scholar and there's much i disagree with him on but i was james. Bari was a brilliant professor at oxford university and he through sprays the illegitimate totality transfer. And what he meant by that is that we use sort of an all of the above messes off interpretation. When only one option is applicable in a given instance so couple quick example would be think of sheep in the bible cheaper illustrate. You still the both peoples obstreperous nature and their waywardness as well as their trust in their separate for example he knows ahah fifty three for six. It says we all like feed have gone astray. So that's clearly a negative image. But then in john ten in the good shepherd discourse treatises my see piermont voice and they follow me so so here clearly. The images positives and conveys the chiefs trust in their shepherds boys. And they're you know trusting following so my point is simply we need to look at the specific use in context and interpret the metaphor appropriately rather than always assuming o it's negative or you know it's always going to be positive and in other favorite example of mine would be babies or infants in scripture. You know i guess. Most of us will probably think of the several places in scripture where the image of an infant is used in a negative sense and you know biblical writers exhort believers to no longer be spiritual babies but but to grow up But then you know the what bucks. The trend there is in in first peter two. Is you know we see a positive use of the same metaphor. Peter writes like newborn babies long for the pure spiritual milk of the word so very positive there right We oughta initate babies in in in with regard to our spiritual thirst for god's word so my point is simply we need to be careful not to jump to conclusions and and to look at the context to see if he given metaphors used positively or negatively rather than committing the interpretive Fallacy of of illegitimate tally transfers. The thanks for allowing me that little like gresh named herman But that's one field. I i love and then you know something here. In servants were were preachers. Maybe sales cheap you know it must be a negative reference or or babies must be you know Whatever it comes. Maturity often does but not always thank you appreciate that We only have maybe two more over time for maybe one or two questions so okay. let's go to john seventeen. I john seventeen in in. I put this label on it. And i can call it the prayer of preservation hat. That's was as the father kept. Jesus from bali You know jesus price the father that he keeps his disciples from falling to the evil one so and in versus twelve and thirteen makes the exception with judas iscariot and that sort of this is something that i think. We is applicable in today's world because we're seeing church leaders and some of my really question of whether they were really christian or not but as some of these church leaders are bawling we. They're turning to apostasy so the the question is why were they ever believers from the start and we could say that and i'm not sure that's really a very good answer arthur's person. The bible who truly was a believer and then fell into pasta. See and one of the one of the person i'm thinking of is d moss and via leman a one twenty four colossians or fourteen and second timothy b. or ten. Yes so how do we reconcile perseverance of the saints and boasts baldwin who apostasy and the but is the perseverance of the saints attorney needing reading the binding considering nuke bindings biblical research today. Yeah good so those are i. Think two or three interrelated questions The specific example of demons may Looking at that. I for moment in an will prominent into the broader discussion. That i think is so important. Nothing in his case. I think as you mentioned he sends greetings to fi- leeman an end to the colossians but then later that was during paul's first imprisonment but then during the second imprisonment Paul writes redeem. Who's in love with the spread of the world as deserted me And so clearly. He left. Paul and and paul remarks rather wistfully in love with the spread in the world. Which makes you think of john's words. Don't love the world or the things in the world. And then infers. John sixteen. But i think at the same time The evidence is insufficient to conclude. That theme has apostatized or fell away from the christian faith altogether in losses ovation his case. I think it's more likely that he was still a believer. But he says come to some of the world's attractions at least temporarily remember. We've just given a couple of snapshots here now of course in other cases I agree You know there may be people who were never truly saved the regenerated in the first place though they may have a peer to be so an example of ad would be i john two eighteen and nineteen where it says You know we know it's the lost our And then john refers to false teachers and he says the out from us but they were not office for. If they'd been with all of us they would have continued with us And then he asked but they went out that he'd might become playing that there they all are not office and so the idea here. Is that for four season right for a while. it looked. they were true christians but then by leaving they showed their true colors as he'd were nowhere near really genuinely safe. In the first place. I think judas would be a classic example about as well of course one of twelve that As far as anyone knew right he was he looked. The part is like the other eleven but then towards the end he showed that his heart really was was was not truly changed so i believe scripture does turn security. That is once the person's genuinely saved and regenerate by the holy spirit. They cannot be you might call unsaved or on regenerated because i think the reasoning ovation ultimately doesn't depend on us. Buddy depends on what crisis don for us on the cross and the same with regeneration. It's the work of god and and it's irreversible like it says in scripture the gifts and the calling of god are irrevocable once god has given us the spirit unlike in the old testament with david who pray. Don't take the away from me. In the new testament god will not take the holy spirit away from anyone to whom he genuinely as given the spirit based on their faith in jesus and what is done for them on the cross and then we can know that right. I john five says whoever's tucson his life who does not live right. These things to you could be leaving the name of the son of god that you may know that he abby turn life so we can have insurance okay We have one more. We have one more that we can. We could deal with So am i correct in saying that darkness and night and light linked to moral Moral goodness for instance when nicodemus came at night in. That's john three to To me. I think that he was coming under the wrath of god. I do not believe nicodemus came with good intentions. I just don't believe that. I know i know later. He became a convert. But i really think at the beginning. He didn't come with good intentions and so he was under the wrath of god are when judas went out at night when he went to betray. Jesus he went out at nightmare in. Its and john makes that burger clear to me. He was under this raft of god And no are. When the soldiers carried torches for instance and ladders they came at night to rest jesus in may two were under the raft. God so give us a fuller or explanation of john's any darkness in light. Yes and again. Thank you so much. Those are all just probing an intriguing questions and then so What a great You know in that conversation. I would say on the light and dark motif in in john's gospel again. I like to look at case by case basis. So for example Is there connotation of moral evil when he could emas comes to jesus by night while i think the the only reason the only way we could be certain is john directly and explicitly said so unfortunately often it requires a certain amount of reading between the lines and as a result Commentators you know read between the lines differently. Maybe just came to jesus by night because those more privacy. You know you're done with the day. There's no leisure for conversation You know he had certain status to protect you. Know he didn't come across as weak. You know jesus you know for advice or counsel You know it does seem like he was a would he might say a sympathizer of jesus and the in a fair minded individual Among the same heater in which was generally very negative because there's other references to make an image later in the gospel. Is you know in in a chapter seven. He speaks up in favor of jesus at us in heater in meeting. And then of course. At the end he buries jesus body along with joseph air mathea so none of it means he was regenerated or he was a christian. I think it means he was a jew. Who believed you know that that jesus is served a decent burial weather not you know. He was divine as she claim of. So i think that is kind of my sense of of nicodemus. He was no judas If anything he stands out from the negative portrayal of the other. Saint hadrian Someone who is more fair minded in open minded toward jesus in other words when they voted to vote against jesus probably was not seventy two zero bear bravi least a few abstentions or votes against it. If for no other reason the end that nicodemus fell jesus was treated unfairly. The instance of Of soldiers coming at night to arrest cheeses Yeah they probably came because he was easier to arrest cheeses while attracting less public attention. Certainly the reference to judas stepping into the darkness. There you have it explicit statement by john. Andy was night So clearly i think there. He wants to draw attention. That judas was doing something very dark and devious in there's other place. Yeah take. Historical jurist is a judas. Went out at night game at night. A soldiers came at night to resting in that It's a historical truth but makes it metaphorical something different. I believe john is what he's doing. I think you could make a case for the fact that nights almost always john has negative connotations. I think there's clearly people who would extend that due to places like nicodemo but remember at the very end. The launch time nicodemo is mentioned in john nineteen. It says he was. The one would come to jesus by night. And at least. I don't really detect any reference there to be under god's wrath or or or by not having a negative connotation so that's i think part of my reason why i'm just kind of cautious to the not necessarily in that case you know Interpret the passage that way but then again there's places shortly after that in john three nine thousand nine hundred twenty one remember where talks about people loved darkness rather than light less there seemed to be exposed so that would be an example in your favor where clearly. There's many very strong negative instances of of nights you know darkness conveying the moral and spiritual darkness and those people are under god's house. So that's that's true. Nicodemus was under god's wrath for sure because he was clearly andre generated the time that he came to jesus i That's all the time we have tonight. So i appreciate dr kosta burger. Thank you so much or be in our guest and offer those of you who would like to contribute to our ministry. 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"Saddam show here on ESPN LA. Matt Barnes hanging out with us. Ben lines with a Sears. Well, coming up a little later. Stick around. We've got STAN Van Gundy. Dan, lebatardshow stopping by his well, I got a couple of things to give away this hour and next hour. So we're going to give one of these away a pair of these away in the four o'clock hour another pair in the five o'clock hour, we've got low marchinko tickets. Limit Ching-Kuo is gonna fight at Staples Center on Friday watch facility, Loma chanko pound for pound the greatest fighter in boxing right now. Arguably, maybe it's Terence Crawford, or you know, Earl Spencer, whoever you think is that. But he's certainly in that in that category. And so we'll give away a pair of tickets in the four o'clock hour, another one in the five o'clock hour, if you wanna purchase tickets to the fight you can't access dot com. That's eight x s dot com before against this stuff with magic in the Lakers. Quick. I I've always wanted to say that he did about your life vice forces incredible also never look at your story or just the story of any professional athlete the same way. Again, I've always wanted to. Tell you that for anybody who hasn't seen it go. Look it up Matt Barnes, vice sports and people get a small glimpse of who. They think you are on the court, and then when you're allowed to peel the layers back and see. Okay. Well, maybe this is why he may acted that way. Or did this? I think it really gives people cool understanding since I've retired. I've really been able to show who I am because I was painted the bag is just what it wasn't. I embraced the hell out of fifteen. At the same time. It's not who I am. As a person. I think number tonic. I've always wanted to tell you, and I think sometimes like at least we're football players, right. Like Kirk Morrison's in here. All the time. He he said, look, he's super docile inversion, you know, and I don't mean that in a negative light like he's just chill. You know? What I mean? Like you your children on the field. He was like a different dude at different mentality and edited and you had to be that way as well. You know, I think yeah. I think that that stuff is just normal. But yeah, I do think guys retire, right? Like, you get to peel the layers. That's a perfect way to describe it. And you get to kind of see. Oh, yeah. Not that bad guys. Cool. Yeah. I get all these sorts of root for them in the game of life out more. And you realize oh, that's far more important. So it's funny. He winning something. I think Paul Pierce is one of those guys prior to him saying that he had a better Dwayne Wade where everyone in the day. Just look lost in the produce section talking. I swear to God I saw to after universal farms, and I was like the truth is really sad. Right. Yeah. So pause guy like he's had fun on this TV show. I'm watching it right now. He's on countdown with Chauncey and those guys, and you know, he's he's talking trash, and he's doing his thing and people enjoy his Aachen chair on Bush, but the minute he said that thinking about doing weight and the internet just exploded on him. It was just like crazy and Jalen just like a visceral stuff. Right. But if you think like what pause been through in Boston. Take out move yourself you his life. Paul was a killer and very underrated. But to me, it was just the wrong time too. I mean, celebrating his careers comes out wrong. Place. But you ask Paul would may Paul Paul was he thought he was the best one of the respect that to me was just wrong time wrong place. Yeah. For sure it's pretty hilarious. So let's talk about the free agent crop here. Real quick. And we'll take a couple more calls with people. So I think the issue is, you know, and this has been reported, right? That the upper level guys the A-List free agents to Kevin Durant is the co is the clay Thompsons, and even the Kyrie's the challenge that the Lakers have is that those guys have rings. And you're not joining LeBron you know to try to chase a ring when you're ready when your leg and three of those guys have rings LeBron's expense. Okay. And Kyrie has has won with him and then fled from playing with LeBron. So I know that relationship has thawed some right after being a little icy. But so that make presents its own set of challenges with those guys not needing rings because they've got their own. And then even the next group of guys Jimmy Butler. Butler Kemba Walker maybe DeMarcus cousins, the more and more reporting. That's done is that those guys the Lakers aren't at the top of those guys list. So it becomes a legit challenge this summer and LeBron had the comments that come in the car with me. And and let's take this ride together this that and the other, and it feels like LeBron's going to have to recruit more than he's ever had to recruit at any point in his life. I don't know if he's going to have these are going to have to recruit or just grab someone by their neck like you're coming to the Lakers with me. Right. I mean to me at this point, you have to really want to be a Laker, first and foremost, maybe it's a dream of yours to be a Laker. And then second you're going to have to wanna play with the and like you guys who said right now, there's not too many of either of those scenarios out there. So so what do you really do? I don't think LeBron is one of those players that may be fits into the Daryl Morey, let us get as much talent. And then we'll figure it out. And I think he is such a unique player, especially in the twilight of his career. The Lakers have to be very calculated in what they won free agency. You're gonna throw a boatload of money at Kemba Walker or Tobias Harris like those. Are two very different players that you're getting back. So when that change your strategy of how you're building this team. Not just yeah. Let me just grab the biggest name we can get and throw the most money at a fixed. Well, that's to your point look at the challenges. He went through in his prime at the beginning of his prime. He was twenty five years old when he went to Miami with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh like that first year. Let's guys are just taking turns do you know what I mean? Like literally they weren't a team until they lost that first year. And then they kind of figured it out. Lebron doesn't have that kind of time right now. That's that's the other part of this challenge. And even in Cleveland there was I mean, Kevin love right fit in fit out, whatever. And there was always a rub with those guys too. So just throwing talent together. You're right isn't necessarily the are they going to sign Rudy gay to a one year deal is that they're playing. So to your point. This was in the athlete yesterday. Bill Orem reported that that. Somebody on LeBron's team talk to him and said, it's not about names about games. And they said that it's about, you know, if they don't find or land the big star that they should look to guys who compliment LeBron, and they mentioned guy like Marcus Morris, a three in type guy or Nicola miratec, right? Who can play the four end the five and stretch the floor and find guys that complement him better. And they would be okay with just that premiered sich is going to say, yeah, I'm in. I'll do three years fifty million, right? And are the Lakers position where you're not a bit long term to somebody who isn't a big, but you're committed to Lombarno reading there. But you can the Lakers get caught up in the Hollywood of all river sitting in the studio and arguing John Ireland about who's better. Steve Nash, or Jeff Teague and at the time Jeff Teague was but Steve Nash. Can we put that aside? Right. The FaceTime Joni twelve or whatever, right. Yeah. So I'm talking about right now like. It's not about the biggest names it's about game. And you have to commit long-term. So mirrored sich would be a great fit for them for the next three years of fifty million dollars. They're not going to do that. Let's grab Johnny and San dem- as what is Johnny? A great show man our shock yesterday too. But I'm a UFC alumni guy. But last time I got shocked as bad was when Garrett had a problem with the NCAA and Pete left town out the back door, but. It was really shocking to hear that. I really think that that it takes three things to be a CEO president or guys running a or basketball organization. It takes basically, you you gotta have a hard work ethic. You gotta be able to be a record of winning. You gotta be able to deal with politics and controversy. I don't think magic was the right for a lot of those things. He did like politics controversy wasn't able to put the work in there to do this stuff. And I think he is a Laker for life. He's one of the greatest ever Showtime. Hey, you know party and have a good time. But I think he also did put a ranch in the whole system. He did a lot of damage not even talking to Jeannie and he's bowing out in a in a regular way. He destroyed a lot of things this year. So I don't know. I think it's the lebrons team now. Now, everything's gonna happen to LeBron. So it's a new Lakers. And it's LeBron team LeBron choice. Next three years. You might have to do that, man. The amount of money you've given them, you know, it's I it's now, you know, what I mean into think that they would trade him. I think is ridiculous even thought. Three times today on different shows. He's I think he's locked in. I don't even think him for his legacy would wanna go somewhere else. I think he got so much private dammit nominee to make this work, you know, type situation, but how you do that is a tricky story. You know, we talked about do you get a bunch of pieces and see if you can work on the fly do used to TJ get him space skies. They can shoot the ball. And and do what he needs to do where he's been successful in the past. You can you get to go to scores that are ball dominant players such as Kemba Walker to to really take less than LeBron's workload. I it's gonna take a lot of thinking like you said like the biggest name may not be the best fit. So they have to really that. They got a lot of work to do LeBron safe in terms of trade. Just because that's where Jeannie does understand her position. And that she sounded entertainment products today. She has a cable network. She's got a talked to they got jersey sales Lon sell that and LeBron is going to be front and center and visible, go play and. Oh, be out there and do all the things that are required of being afraid of face of a franchise. You know, he doesn't hide from the media. He's going to go out there and do that. So I don't I don't think they'll ever tree. Yeah. I would agree. We'll take more of your calls. Plus coming up next. There's some Anthony Davis news that will get to stick around. Matt Barnes hanging out. Ben Lyons hanging out. We're back at four minutes here on ESPN LA. Yes, sir. This Donald show here on ESPN LA. Matt Barnes hanging out. Ben Lyons with this year. We got that. He Davis news. We'll get to in a second. That was ridiculous. Yeah. The shirt that's kind of funny. I I it was kind of funny, but we were just talking in the break about kind of the play offs potentially met you. You're a big fan of okay? See potentially as as long as the warriors. You think they've got a shopping. They're very dangerous. I think the way they played defense in any given series. They have two or three of the best player. Excuse me. Two of the best players in the entire series as long as they can avoid the warriors. I can see them getting hot because they're talented and they played defense making the western finals. I'm not gonna say it's going to happen. But I definitely could first round series vs in who you got. That's tough one two. That's going to be a grinder. I don't think I don't think the warriors or Houston wanna play. Okay. See because it's going to take so much out of them. That's not going to be a sweet that's not even be a six game. Could go seven. You know what I mean? But. I like Houston CP's my guy. And if he stays healthy, I gotta believe in himself. Go Houston on that show. Three first round exits in a row since Katie left for us combined. What? Yeah. Well last year was the big shock against Utah. I don't think anyone saw that coming. I was like, whoa. But Donovan Mitchell was amazing in that series of angles and those guys shots. Ricky Rubio did kind of outplayed at in that series. It was kind of crazy. So here's the Anthony Davis store before we get back to your calls and get back to everything that transpired yesterday. With Magic Johnson. He was asked about the possibility that he could start next season New Orleans, and he said, look, I'm still under contract. I have a year left. Obviously a possibility that it could happen. I don't have ill will towards anybody here. I know that it's a possibility that the next season I could be here as well. So I can't be mad if I'm here next year. That's got to be a weird situation though. Right. Like, there's I mean, there's really I mean, there's no way they could bring him back after the sat him this season. I mean, you gotta think it's and this is all due respect. I it's. Such a small market team. If there's any glimpse that you can keep him around for a little I mean. You would think. No, right. But you know, stranger things have happened. What he said was smart. And I know he played in to me. I really don't I don't know all his involvement through the whole process. I really don't wanna point a finger at him because to me from the outside looking in. It was more Rich Paul it was more, and it was more than actually so eighty kind of played the cars or right away. And then he's kind of been stuck to deal with what these other guys started. These guys were exposed to pull me out of pull me out of jail and bring me to the beach is in the palm trees, and they didn't know I'm stuck here dealing with what does that do for an organization just the business of basketball, where you're the New Orleans pelicans, you're going into your summer, and you've got sales meetings and you're selling season tickets and sponsorship and you're like all right? I'll radio we're going to do a big photo shoot with Anthony Davis like that. Yeah. I don't know shakeouts tough really what kind of cripples and organization from the top down a feeling well, and especially that organization more so because as you mentioned Matt small market, but they're also this kind of weird situation because the owner is new to sports period. You know, she inherited the team and they've got a weird structure in the front office. Where Mickey Loomis who is the saints general managers also kinda VP basketball ops and Dell Dem's was answering to him. And it seems like they're going to go the more traditional route now, but they don't have a GM in place. They don't have anyone in place right now. There are Rina's also called the smoothie King Center. Yeah. We'll smoothie king is based in Louisiana. So I get your money whatever, you can get it. You know, what I mean, not everybody can get Staples or American Airlines or United or whatever del some of us don't need or renew sponsors. There's that right Madison Square Garden doesn't need it. That is true. The most famous does need a new owner. Yeah. That's true. That's true. You don't have a basketball. Yeah. So. Couple of things there with Anthony Davis. I find it very strange like he was talking about just kind of how wildest season was. Yeah. I if he does get moved this summer does it happen before the draft. Our after I would imagine around the draft Yale of the draft. I think that that could be the potential or even free agency. Like traits can happen in trades. He wants the league year starts you can make those moved sues. So teams can absorb them into space. If they have this may be signed a free agent the summertime, then you can't move them till the middle of December or something like that with certain guys because. No once you sign them. It's December fifteenth. That's the deadline at that point. Then moved them, right? Yeah. For sure let me grab Salomon in lake Balboa what up sound Alvin. I'm good thanks for taking my call before. I mentioned where I think I'd like the Lakers to go in the future. Well, both both of the comments excuse me are are gearing towards their future. I wanna see the Los Angeles Lakers. I don't necessarily wanna see the LeBron Lakers. I don't think that's going to work. I don't think he tear apart which were starting to develop all to accommodate LeBron James he's gone in two years. The Lakers are going to go on a lot longer after he is that said, I don't know if he would take the job of love to see Jerry West. Of course, you, you know, you kick them out twice so to speak I fill and then for magic if he takes the job. He's eighty one years old. Let them take it for two three years. Groom his son. And then you're sit they so much of the call. I don't think that happens. Everything you hear about Jerry West and his relationship with genie and the organization, it's just sounds toxic. And it's just too much history. They're not going to happen. I think they need a young motivated analytic bright mind to conquer. This is gonna get a lot uglier before it gets better and someone a Pat. Riley even though I said Pat injury. These guys are both in you know, comfortable in pats, comfortable Miami. Jerry West is in a great situation with the clippers as as as a as personnel or as management. Do you wanna come put these these pants that are on fire on you know, what I mean? Because if they signed someone big it's going to be you know, it's going to be them. You know? I mean, like I said, I think rob to me. And this is not respectable. He's just not big enough yet for him to really get a lot of the blame. Like, I said if they bring someone else vigor that person's gonna take the blame him who really wants it because this is a big time mess with very uncertain summer and to me the summers uncertain because of what management is management is lost. There's the you can't tell me that the top free agent of the game wanna come to a situation where just management is is such a mess 'cause that's very important. We'll I think that you'd have to have someone like Jerry or Pat feel like they're Teflon, right? Like, they're like my legacy is established and not only established. Elsewhere. Unlike. Lebron they've established that reputation here with that organization. So, you know, Pat Riley has four championships with the Lakers, Jerry West was the architect of all those teams. So those guys were to find a way to come back. I do think that they would hold a certain cash Shay that they can be like, yeah. Listen, I can deal with the criticism on fine. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But then they go out the last kind of job of their career, and it doesn't work out. And it's like why I start working out Pat Riley right now, you know, what I'm saying. Why is less than was awesome in my wish? Cool. I was there code. He won't for sixty. He's also the guy that owned the phrase there's winning and misery. So you know, what I'm saying? Like, Pat Riley, not making up. All white linen with Rick Ross at the after party last night. That was a great time in my doesn't. I've known Pat Riley since two thousand and three and there's like, yes, he loves the whole celebration of weight, he's big into family, and and trust and all that stuff. But the end of the day the man wants us to win. Okay. He told Dan Libertad on TV. They did they ran that interview. He's like, I'm I'm I'm not I'm not done yet. Like I want to win. So why why come here knowing all honesty? It's the losing his franchise in the NBA the last six again what I'll tell you why on the other side. We'll tackle that. Plus people on Twitter, of course, Twitter. They're always upset at somebody. So they're they're mad at us about something. So we'll we'll get into some of that. We'll take your calls. Matt Barnes hanging out. Ben lines hanging out today show, ESPN LA, sit down and show here on ESPN LA. We were just talking about the breaks are always fun. We were just talking about the specialization. We're talking about youth sports and just kinda the specialization and how much younger it is. And Matt you've got ten year old boys. Right. So it's like it's crazy like some of the people. Do with their kids. Unfortunately, I think I mean, you see it on the highest level with lavar living through his kids. Right seriously me, but you don't wanna make it a job. I'm someone that you know, did what I did. And I coach my kids, but it's never if you wanna work out cool. If you don't, you know, I took him to work out with Kobe this summer and Kobe all these play on their ipad and complain your, ipads and go to UCLA, you're not gonna play basketball go to UCLA. You know what I mean? So to me, I always I'd never put pressure on my kids if you wanna work out and get better. Let's do it. If not I'm not going to press you because I don't want it to be it becomes a job in a business. When you make it to the fresh, if you're lucky enough, you know, so I just I'm not a fan of people that just drilled their kids at a young age in make it tough or than it needs to be. I would say, you know, if you're going to specialize. I mean, maybe late in high school, right like middle exhaust more years, something maybe you kind of figure it out. But I mean, even guys like, you know, I don't know what you played in high school beyond basketball. But all right. Renoir, baseball basketball, you go. I did everything right on played football. Right. Dwayne Wade played football and ice think every sport I played, you know, helped me in in what my was. But unfortunately, we're talking we may not like it. But then if you're not apparent that gets on your kids. But in in keeps them in line, they're going to be behind the eight ball because so many kids now, it's not kids are being ranked at a young age and ranked in the nation and getting lifting weights doing on them just like your ten or nine or eight like let them be kids actually, not the path. You know, you did this film in search greatness, which down Wayne Gretzky Palay, Jerry Rice, the chew icons of sport. And Gretzky says parents come up to a mall time and say my kids, go train just like you didn't train. I played little games in the backyard with my buddies, and I played baseball. And I did all and I think that's why you see so many injuries NBA by the time. They get there. They're totally burnt out. A you overtraining same muscle groups, and you got and also the pressure for young person. So it's cool to hear your boys are into other stuff. Hoped that starting back or for the Knicks and like tiny. Got going now before we get some calls here. We've got some tweets this from d-w who says we love Matt out here. He was a Laker. But he's still complaining about some of this stuff. He's can you guys stop the Lakers made it to fourth place in the west. We have a great team. Sure management is wonky. But these are Lakers rider died in genie. We trust negative negative negative. Look the thing about the four seed when they were twenty and fourteen let me let me just put this into context they were closer to the ten seed as the four seed than the one seed and it's thirty four games into the season. He would understand the season doesn't start until after going all star break. And after all star break is when the season really start. So you'll see saw the kings flirting around where they were flirting. He saw teen in once guy start taking it serious is is when you really weed out who it is. So I'm someone like an I preach. I firmly believe they have a great core. And if they go on that route, they can really have something, but it's not going to be for two or three more years. Put that said that's going to be everything is time sensitive will LeBron. So I agree with you know, what they said on Twitter. They have a good core management needs to get it fixed. But they're not gonna have time to develop this core. Because fans in the city and in the NBA want the Lakers to be good. Now. Let's go to the phones. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN rich and Irvine what rich. Hey, great show guys. Thanks for taking my call, Matt. I just wanna tell you respect you a lot the way he played harder for the clippers. And and and for UCLA that being said what I like to know is among genie buses circle of of influence. I guess who does she go to who does she have as mentors, you know? Bill Gates has and talks to Warren Buffett who who does Jeanie Buss go to fill is it. I mean, I don't know. I've never heard anything about it. That's why I mean, she keeps it in the family, right? I know that her Linda ram bizarre close, which means her and cut Rambis. Or close, which means fill is probably someone. She does still lean on because I know filling Kurt or are close. Magic was one of those people, you know, covy when she talked about Farner, brother. But. Yeah that that group is not enough. I mean, he has to be talking to other smart businessman, you know, other smart owners, and and other smart people rather than just for comfort zone with you know, with magic and Phil so to her credit. I mean, we don't know if he's not, you know, we don't because you know, she's not a very out there public while you know, what you're hearing from her now because, you know, her teams on fire so to speak in a bad way. But we don't know what she actually is doing. But obviously being able to lean on someone who's been there done that. And has a great mind is always a benefit. Let's go to Patrick Pasadena. What patrick? Guys ban. You're working with you legends today with the unite. Try to keep try to keep it very quick. I appreciate you letting me on beyond what they're dealing with today in LA. You have what despite what people think the most educated in NBA gentle, educated informed fan base because of technology and interest in you've ever had. We'll put that out there every Laker fan. I talked to weren't you sleeker pins? He's NBA and basketball enthusiasts who were happened to be born in L A and raise Laker fan. So we're Laker fans. And we love it. And for the last five years four magic we were sold patients. We're going to build it. We're gonna you guys went through three coaches, we stayed patient. We got on with young guys. And then we finally got her coach a guy who was better than the last year we had into typically from the can eat better and better and better. And then we bring a met guy who was amazing for the city in amazing, philanthropist, amazing guy mazing man, and what he's doing wasn't working for bad roster together van move taking him to be honest. But Jerry West he gave his by the league stepping out. You know, saying the wrong things that up, and I honestly think what happened is he wanted to get rid of Luke, and I think Jimmy pike Pike's, not the problem. And I think he walked away. Whether that's what it is. Who knows we don't know. I think and you guys pricing. I'm crazy. But I think good president for the Lakers would be Mitch cub check on handcuffed by Jim bus. Because if you look at his track record, he was very good at what he did. And he was very good. He was very good, Patrick and thank you for the call. But I think the problem is the way that ended ugly. Yeah. We've got to move forward. I stopped looking in the past right greed magic. Like, I don't know. That's to say genie, though, is is not out there. It's not true. Like her Instagram? She's out there you see. She's around hanging. Aqua badge hanging out the game. She's wearing hats and going on fun trips. All of the Graham, she's putting out there. That's actually a great point about her mentor. I think any successful executive will tell you that they take pride and who they're meant. Cars are and they love being able to call the really cool successful people in ask them questions. That's a that's a great point wonder who Jeannie would say her mental. Hey, guys. Don't forget her number one mentor was that. All right. For sure. Absolutely as in Inglewood ace. What's up, George? I'll good man. Ginny to give them a phone call in call Myers. I think that there's anything about Mars go to stay. Yeah. All chain was over there at the time. You know when Bob Mars is. So he has some type of chemistry get a phone call that guys if you can get a man with the Lakers call David Griffin because you know, that guy in those two guys those two smart breeding mines in the same office with the Lakers help out. Ginny get to keep her saying guy that she won't obviously she wanted to keep watching no walking, you know. He he didn't get a shape a good shake of hand. You know, he he needed he needed. You know, the supporting cast that he needed to to to build around the bras team like the last caller called in. And he talked about you know, that like, you know, before then it was doing good. But you know, you get to keep Nawab chain. But you on the phone call that guy bought Myers meeting. He get him. Yeah. I think the challenge there and thanks for the call. We gotta run up against it here in a second. But the challenge there's what's goals as wage. Bob, you're Stephan. Just do this new arena thing. Thanks so much look down there. It's tough to to for to leave the physician he's in and Joe legal. Why would he grant permission for the owner famous? That's the challenge. Now, David Griffin again free agent for right? He's working on in in broadcasting right now. Like that makes all the sense in the world. Coming up next. We'll get to what's trending including more on the Lakers and something to shout out the clippers for we'll get to that just a sec. But I I gotta tell you about my own personal experience shopping for a car. It's not always easy. I get it. But man, we did it right? We went through Reseda Benz of Encino. And I got myself a GMC three hundred coupe an unbelievable experience. Man. Love the car and get this, man. You know, what I went in there? And I was like, wow man getting the VIP treatment around here. And I figured well. You know, I'm doing the radio commercials. Of course, I'm getting the VIP treatment. 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And all that you could pick up on the videos that were posted were him say crazy crazy crazy, Matt I don't know if you've ever been through anything like that or somebody just quit all of a sudden like that. But my guess is if you did it wasn't easy to deal with at least in that particular moment, I've never been through situation. But I understand where LeBron is coming from. Because I know magic was a was a big selling point probably a mentor. You know, LeBron wanted to move into business and management and ownership when he was done. So I'm sure that was something they had in common and for him to kinda just ghost everybody from genie gillibrand to the world and in kind of be like I'm out of here fan. Hurt right now, you know, in is one of my favorite human beings players businessman. But I think a lot of fans really feel like magic set afire and just left. It really did feel like that. He basically left everyone not only did he set fire and leave. But he also left them to have to clean up the mess to. It's just it's just all bad is nothing positive about it except for anyone. Magic johnson. Mike. He gets the now go then Magic Johnson to get to Corsica this summer on the eat as much pizzas he wants. Yeah. For sure by the way, shutout to Tony Barco in Burbank. Who won the tickets don't forget, we got more tickets for the boxing event for Loma check on Friday at Staples Center in the five o'clock hour, you're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. How do we feel about not just setting the fire, but just the whole aspect of Jeanie Buss? Now, I know genie two hours later tweeted, some nice things and took the high road with magic. But my guess in those two hours. There was a lot of I don't know just profanity right? Like just a all sorts of stuff. You if I'm her I wouldn't blame her. I was all messed pissed off about all the way. It went down to end that quote from magic you hear his voice start to break, and you're reminded of the human element here. And that these two are cosmetically connected in have such a special relationship that is so unique to the Lakers to this part of this kind of situation unfolding in sports like they've known each other grown up together kid from Michigan. He gets off the plane here in LA Jeanie Buss is his friend for lice sister for life. I there's a lot of human emotion to this. Well, we haven't touched on it too much because we don't really tend to think of these characters in our soap opera, it's like a betrayal by I think that may be the reason why we never really know why magic left because I think there's some stuff going on to magic price speak of. But but to but to the relationship, you just touched on out of respect for her and friendship for her. He'll probably just keep that to himself take this on the chain. And and keep it moving tie. We have audio apparently. Of genie buses reaction during Magic's stepping down. That's what it sounded like in genie buses car guys before you go on last night when he did announce this, of course, she didn't know she was at the Rena, but left immediately and went back to El Segundo right to the facility. She didn't want to be bombarding. She was going to be bombarded. You know, this is a complete blind side. So she probably the right move. Yeah. I would agree. Speaking of staple center, shutout to Ralph Lawler, the hall of fame broadcaster for the clippers who is doing his last game tonight and had a legendary career man met you played for the clippers. And she got a little bit amazing man, you know, him and his wife traveled on all of our trips. The NBA is going to miss him. You know that the voice of the clippers seeing seeing the bad and the good and it's starting to head back. Good, man. But hats off to route man, we love you. We're gonna miss you. And we hope you enjoy retirement definitely put a stamp on the game too. And it was one of those guys who never made it about him despite having his own wall. He's never law, man. He's got. He's got his own law and one hundred wins. Now that that that that was a little more difficult. I think I think that log had to get altered in this when they sped up there in the third quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you're the warriors, right? And then the rockets shooting three now that's incredible. And I love broadcasters who have had the same gig for a long time. It's really hard to do in today's landscape and well-deserved tremendous tremendous career Ralph Lawler next we've got a story out of the NFL the New England Patriots or trying to fill the gronk void, they add safari and Jenkins, formerly of the Tampa Bay bucks. Who was like one of these fantasy guys to and the jets right in Tampa Bay, though, he had like one of these games we had like three or four touchdowns and everybody like scooped him up. Like, oh, that's the guy because he was like a rookie. And then. Yeah, you never really did anything else after that. But do we kind of just default to the fact that oh the patriots picked them up? They'll probably make them into something big shoes to fill, but that's a similar system to San Antonio. You know with that organization and the coach you plug people in and they you get the. Best out of them answering the. Yeah, Tom Brady is Tim Duncan, basically. Right. We'll see. Yeah. That is crazy. I mean, they really do have a lot of synergy those two particular franchises the way they deal with everything the way they keep things in house band way or the highway. No matter who you are right. It is pretty wild. How that's the case. But no press conferences in the tunnel. Foxborough randomly up people quitting word AT and T center or the Alamodome or any of those places. Yeah, it is pretty wild more news from the NFL. The giants have signed shepherd to a four year forty one million dollars. Yes. John pick. And that's that's a good pick for them. Yeah. Young receiver. Very well. Del obviously is in there. Right. Like, you got to commit to somebody. There. Somebody's got to catch the ball there. And he seems to be a pretty good plano someone to throw it there. Well, that's true too. That's the key. That is true to it, man. I like surly shepherd is too young towns of is there you talked about the throwing thing though is there's something to be said about maybe two lawyer. Well, in their particular case, I it's it's a double edged sword because you want to be loyal, and that's one of the rare cases where you've seen, but almost to me allies, worn out, his welcome. But they're continuing to stay loyal and getting rid of everyone but him, but. Hey, they're a mess around and start wasting sequence prime. Workload is going to be imagining eight nine in the box. You know, it's it's going to be tough for him next year the aging superstar whether it's here in LA with LeBron or New York with manning is a very tough thing for organisms to manage some do it more gracefully others. They don't have the luxury of being able to have a team that isn't competitive. You know, Dallas everybody's fine with Dirk farewell tour. It's okay. Luke in the future. Speaking of which that is what my next door. He was going to be Dwayne Wade and Dirk Nowitzki both thirty points in their vinyl home games before they retired Dirk did announce last night that he was like most people expected was going to retire. Matt you competed against both those guys what are your thoughts on the two of the greatest. Unfortunately, this magic stuff overshadow that. But the two of the greatest ever do it hall of fame guys first ballot. A great players, but even betterman. And I'm happy for these guys. I hope they can, you know, peacefully be a peaceful what's next for them in in life. But the game will definitely miss them. I let's play a game because shooting guard in power forward or two positions. That historically have had a lot of great players. Let's start with Dirk. Where do you have him on the power forward ranking, Ben I'll start with you right behind Tim Duncan, really number two. Wow. So call Malone absolutely thirty thousand got the ring the MVP's the way he's able to change the game and put his stamp on the game shoot the ball until then Patrick Ewing was maybe the best shooter at seven VN the rains. He was like a sixteen seventeen footer. Turk change game lay the groundwork for guys like Durant, and you know, Zinger is right. So I go number two all time power MAC, nor do arts argument. Yeah. For sure now, Dwayne Wade. What was third by Coby third behind MJ? Kobe debate was to me always very underrated. Maybe because he just played basketball. You didn't hear any antics or any gimmicks during his career, really flew under the radar? But to me, you know, and I was someone that had to guard the best player every single night. He was one of my toughest guards to guard. You know, him and Ginobili or some people that people don't talk about those are two of the hardest guys. I've ever had to guard very talented, but a very shifty around the basket and be able to finish don't shoot. Do it. All yeah. Definitely. I d waited number three D Wade's interesting because you know, we were just talking about specialization and youth sports like D. Wade was a late bloomer in the sense. He didn't play basketball too. He was a junior in high school. He was never really considered. Trump forty eight kid in college like, you endeavor. You only had three scholarship offers, and then kind of turned himself into one of the greats. Ben, you have them at three. I haven't met three Jerry West. So have argument to sure that spot. I never saw Jerry play, obviously. And he played against guys who were milkman in the summertime. So I'm gonna go with that is true. They insurance and milk, and that's fine. But do you play against the the globalization of the game? So I hated that. He was in Miami. I hated that. He wore Capri pants. I hated that. He wore glasses a Knicks thing. No freight. I like Dwayne Wade Wayne the from a different world. Hated the Aladdin magic. I love doing weighed so much. He's the relationship. My dad has a Red Sox fan to Joe DiMaggio. Or that spike has to you know, Reggie or Michael Jordan. Tony I feel that way too. Like he crushed the Knicks. He owned the garden. I hated Miami. I love the way one of my favorites to ever do it. I was really sad last night. One more here, we got Duke freshman RJ Barrett, declaring for the NBA draft officially not a shock, obviously. But what kind of player, do you think he is Matt interesting? He's going to be interesting player. He's someone that can do everything, you know, these new aids big guards that can control the game in his size. I'm expecting big things from him. I'm hoping he goes into the right situation situation. You know, usually when you're a high peak you're going into a volatile situation. I'm hope he's allowed to come in there develop in really mature as a player mature as a man, but I'm excited for him. And it's only a matter of time for Zion announces he's good, man. He's really good. I give this wasn't a year of Zion. People be talking about you know, any team. They gets the number two or number three pick is going to be upset on ping pong day. But draft day when they have are walking. Oh, we did. Okay. I'm really looking forward to his career. Would you rather have Barrett or Jami rent met with a tough call? It just depends on what you need at the time. Let's say the Lakers get lucky and they get the number two pick. What would you what would who would fit better around? Lebron neither Moran because he can shoot a little bit better. Probably right. Yeah. I go Barrett. I take Barrett over joh-. Really? Yeah. I just think he's so solid. I see him almost like Chauncey Billips stability to him. You know, he's bigger, obviously. And he's gone. Jalen lanky nece and his game a little bit and bounce it. But he just one of those dudes. He just solid director. We're not with this over and over like, why don't you worry about that? To look Jason Tatum is like that. Right. I mean, do guys kind of that model. Right. Brent hill was like I think grand hills the greatest do player ever. But yeah, I just think you look at their games. And there's there's not a lot of flaws in the game rate is Duke player ever. Because of what they did add Duke or combination of amunition of that. And then be Christian leaders that don't know. Right. As far as like, just college. Right. But I think if. As well. Yeah. You play with grant at the end in LA. Right. It was an in Phoenix. Grant was someone. I I wish that you know, that injury bugged never hit office. He was Putera. Remember grant grant was a month. He's turning into a defensive upper at thirty five was mentally. It was just mental. I play with them Phoenix clippers he was one of my favorite players. And I just wish you know. He would have got to play a healthy career because he would have been to meet definitely top ten all time. RJ Barrett's Kellerman. I think the Lakers would be stoked if they somehow work that out coming up next. There is a lot of rumors flying about what the hell happened with Magic Johnson will start tackling some of those here in just a moment. So stick around. We've got some audio from Stephen a Smith who is basically calling people out. So we'll hear that. And just a moment. 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Local Hour: David Samson from Milwaukee

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Local Hour: David Samson from Milwaukee

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When you can say something has been upgraded to full fledged fiasco fiasco. I believe is the highest of the embarrassments and baseball. Has people complaining the knuckleballer they. They stripped down search to knuckleballer last night because of their sticky situation and you've got players dropping their pants on the field yesterday. We talked to sampson about how this is a bit orchestrated as part of collective bargaining. Make a big show of this but manfred yesterday the commissioner in baseball. David says that he thinks things are going really well. And why not. Just sit it out. Why would you come out and say really well. Maybe you're just doing the owners bidding doesn't matter it does it. You're saying basically it doesn't matter the a player can poop on the mound. It does not matter anything can happen here. I'm going to say it's going really well. Well it reminded me of bugs. Bunny and the road runner and the tasmanian devil. Is that the one where they're holding. The wolf is holding the umbrella over his head while the world is collapsing. The coyote and he holds the umbrella thinking. It's not gonna matter and then all of a sudden the mountain collapses on them rob manfred position where he has no choice but to say what he said. He had to meet the media. He did a q. And a. a and his point was and he said it wrong but his point was don't just look at sergio romo's skivvies. Don't just pay attention to scott boras clients in what they're saying. Let's look at the overall impact because that's were studying. Were seen the trevor. Bauer is now headed. Were seen the garrett. Cole is now hideo and that averages are moving up. That's what he should have said but instead he said a platitude like hey everything's fine. That's not terrible. If the result of this is more often correct well. That's the goal here. The goal is to get more offense in the goal is to stop the pitchers from taking too big an advantage with these sticky substances and also the goal is to figure out how to keep the economic model in place that has so beneficial to owners in for the last five or ten years. Is that the chief goal like when you look at the number one reason. They're willing to endure everything. Obviously the chief goal is always the economic model but is the chief goal to improve offense now. The chief goal is actually for people like you to say that baseball is not boring and that there is a younger people are engaging in baseball. There watching baseball. They're playing baseball. That is truly the chief goal secondarily of course to money. What level of shame do you have of making the roadrunners chief. Adversary the tasmanian devil. So is the roadrunners chief. Adversary wylie coyote right. It has to be yes. I have no idea why the tasmanian devil was in my mind. Except i always view myself as burling. Dervish of a person have already been up for so many hours today. I think we got a call out. And say i'm glad you're ok in miami with a. I live in a building my whole life. Practically i never thought about a building collapsed on me now. I got another thing for me to worry about. Can you imagine a safe room does not even protect you when a building comes down when i came in here today. It's what billy was talking about about. Seventy or eighty blocks from here a twelve storey building with one hundred thirty six units half of it just collapsed and there was a search and rescue mission and first responders. And it's obviously awful. You spend a lot of time. I have the occasional thought in a building. Well i'm putting an awful lot of trust and people who did construction fifty years ago. I have that occasional thought but it's not a pervasive thought you and billie are filled with a little more fear more often so i imagine it's a more pervasive thought with you guys. I grew up in the city. So i in new york city so i've been in buildings my whole life that i worked in skyscrapers when i was working on wall street and i've always stayed in hotels. I always want top floors for good views. And i never really think about it so the problem is when something happens you have this bias that gets into your head and that you assume that you're next and its next and it's totally irrational. Its way safer to be on the forty floor of a building than it is to cross fifth avenue collins avenue washington avenue. It's way stay for but somehow you see the news and then you feel like everything's all screwed up in terms of your odds and your calculation sampson giving us his building. Bona fides over here. I've been in buildings my whole life. Dan you did you did do that. You said You you feel like you've been in more buildings than we've been in. I have because i grew up in new york city so i feel like i have been more buildings but again. That's not a flexed. That's me acknowledging to you. That i have so many issues that i can't believe i have to add one more because until this morning and it was never even a thought and as i'm sitting here on the eleventh floor talking to you currently believe me. It has occurred to me what would happen while we were aping. If of sun and the lights went out. And i have the feeling you just keep going not to argumentative. But everything's done in buildings everywhere rights alike not new york versus miami but anyone. That does anything's pretty much doing it in a building. I don't know what you're referring to also like dan's older than you so dan's probably been more buildings than you have first of all. Dan is not older than i. Really appreciate what you're saying. Because he looks older than i because he's bigger in terms of horizontal and vertical size. But he is not older. I live in a building right now. My building bona fides or greater than yours right now. Because you don't live in a building right now i yes. I do the last time. I talked to you or by a pool and that pool was not by a building well. I'm not currently there at the moment. I don't think we need to actually get into my sinus. I think where we need to say is number wind. It is unbelievable what happened number two. We have to put the faith and construction workers. And i watched marlins park get built and i had a view many times of watching construction workers in what they do because many of them care. It's sort of like in sports. Many of the athletes care about the outcome of the game. But some don't some just wanna to get paid there there for a payday but when you are a player that means your team may not win when you are doing rebar and steel and other such construction that is sort of a different story so i was always very nervous watching The ballpark get built. Wondering is this person. Paying attention to how he is nailing the steel. I feel like i'm getting bogged down in the weeds here but like a house is a building right no Put it on the poll. Chris cody is a house a building. It's why you putting that on the poll. That house is a house a building by definition now a ten storey house. I could argue as building about a two story house now. That's just the house about a three story house. We know we're getting into a bit of a situation. I think it's ford up. Dave just looked up the definition of building. The first definition is a structure with a roof and walls such as a house school store factory. While thank you miriam webster. You have been boxed in chris. Cody is also tired of getting text messages all morning from people saying we're you in that building people are asking me like hey were you in it and i say no but like what would my tax be if i was put me in an awkward spot but people do that living in miami for as many years as we all have. Don't you get that every time there's a hurricane. Hey just checking. Are you okay. Every time i assume you all get that yes roy. You're the expert in these matters before we were talking about buildings and before we got bogged down here. We were talking about roadrunner and coyote and he had mentioned the tasmanian devil. Was the tasmanian devil. A cameo in roadrunner and coyote would he make the occasional cameo no he was Mainly dealing with bugs bunny. Okay thank you roy. I appreciate this is your area and they're all looney tunes. Dan just different cartoon pepper pew. I don't know if we still talk about him. We don't know yeah all of them. They were all. They had their own. Little storylines. I always viewed myself as wylie coyote just trying to always evade everything and needing the occasional protection from the gravity gravitational pull and somehow always been okay afterwards now we only saw wile e. coyote versus run an end sometimes versus bugs. Bunny who is your roadrunner. David sounds like a. Google has knit. Are you people coming up with this on your own roy. Roy knows this stuff and billy was asking a question. You're feeling a bit evasive on it. Yeah who is your road. Runner david fewer wylie coyote. It's funny I would say my childhood. Wow a dark and expansive ansi childhood. Well dropped last week. Out of nowhere that People were always just taking things from him in childhood. That do you have. Do you have a particular memory of something being taken from you. One one that stands out forty years later or fifty years later. That represents a great scar that you have that you carry around in adulthood. Let's love this. Does he do you analyzing me. Every thursday is that sort of take away your need to analyze yourself and sort of all of the issues that you may have the you. Just come right at me. Every thursday like. You're some sort of dr ruth really lord doctor kevorkian trying to get me to say something to remember things that i spend a lifetime trying not to remember. It's it's actually my job once. Jeter got rid of me and i decided to get into this racket. My job is to squish squash in eliminate anything from my past. So i don't even want to think about what you're asking me. Well i certainly don't want to think about anything. That would make me dr ruth in your life because that is not a consideration that i want to ever have regarding any friends. I'm gonna flex right now and tell you that dr ruth has a son named joe westheimer. Joel westheimer came into at horace mann school in new york. When i was in sixth grade he was high school students and he taught us what a computer was because computers hadn't come out yet and we knew that his mother was dr ruth so dr ruth came and spoke to us and that was sort of my introduction. Do people know who dr ruth is anymore. Put it on the poll. chris cody. Do you know who dr ruth is anymore. David we've been doing some research on this. You versus dan's age situation and we found out your age. We also found out that you were born in milwaukee and you lived there until i believe you were eight so i mean. How many buildings are there there. Compared to new york. I feel like the building situation now. May be dance favors. Dory's phone apart. Yeah i was born in milwaukee and moved for first grade so i was actually five and you could actually check the divorce documents as i was. The first child allowed to be moved out of state as part of a divorce with his mother from milwaukee to new york i one on it yes please. Where it's i'm fine with both of you being out of the show today. Just check the divorce documents. Wanna see if we can corner him on this one was alan l. versus sylvia sad. We really don't miss. Can we cut this or is this parts. I know we are into deep at this point. Invalid did you have anything taken from you. In first grade in milwaukee spent first grade. In new york. I was a kindergartner and move to new york inbetween kendra garden and first grade and moved into something cub. Fifteen twenty york avenue where i lived in the laundry room. I first bedroom in new york city was also the laundry room. Bright off the little kitchen. Their windows yes. There was a window But it was a little bed and the was a tiny little laundry room. And that's what you do when you move to new york with a single mother. Internet says there wasn't windows in their room. Would you started the divorce papers. Say just check it allen at lower lawrence stamps in my father who recently passed away and sylvia were shower. Sampson got divorced. In nineteen seventy four. I believe was the day he could have been seventy three seventy four. Seventy two seventy three seventy four somewhere in that ranch and it was in milwaukee wisconsin. What else do you find interesting about the big balls go ahead. I'm sorry. I just want to tell you the reason i know this is i had to clean out. My dad's stuff passed away. And i found the decree. That's how i know. It's you can google it all you want. But i i haven't i throw it away. Because what is your found. Something jessica investigative reporter jessica has located something. I found the new york times. Marriage announcement were shire. Some samson ten fly new jersey april eighteenth miss silvi- silvia wash our and alan lawrence. Sampson will be married on august. Twenty third mr. And mrs samuel wash our have announced their daughters engagement to the son of mr mrs harry sampson of milwaukee. The bride to be expects to be graduated in june from the university of wisconsin which her fiance was graduated in nineteen sixty two. Her father is a vice president of melnea industries. Inc garden supplies. Mr samson is attending wisconsin law school. His father lawyer laki is present their of first national bank of glendale. I don't know what to say other than that. Is the wedding announcement of my original two parents. What else from the baseball fiasco do you find. Interesting i find interesting that there is no acknowledgement by either side. That this is all position. And i've been talking about it on nothing personal and i'm gonna talk about it again on. Today's show parts fascinating. I want people to listen to this. Because you're basically saying and this is not something. I'm hearing anywhere else that. This is all collective bargaining maneuvering that. They're basically putting on a pantomime acting show for us to warn us. That a work stoppages coming. There's no question in my mind. It's it's not but be clear. It's not warning that work stoppages coming. It's warning that if a work stoppage does come. it's because of the other side to the union is positioning us to believe that. The owners are being unreasonable. The owners are positioning us to believe that the players are being unreasonable. When in fact powerbrokers behind the scenes are two or three owners and three agents. Plus tony clark with the union and their new hack who they hired. Who is a very very big time fighter. A mayor wants to fight. This is what everyone's been waiting for. If you are a player you've been waiting to get back. A few economic benefits that you gave up in the last several collective bargain agreements and all the sticky substances. It's like it's like a for ghazi. It's it's it's it's meant to distract you from what's really going on behind the scenes which is an effort from the owners to not give away anything. They've gained in the last two or three agreements. What are the biggest disagreements that we have in the collective bargaining agreement. Which ones are the deal. Breakers the ones that are really going to be problematic Arbitration service time manipulation with the players are focused on now and much to the chagrin of the owners. Because actually if you think about it. The owners last time were forced to give up all sorts of meaningless things that the players wanted like food and chefs and planes and game times. None of that mattered. But that's what the union wanted now. The union want something totally different. They want players to be called up earlier and to be eligible for arbitration earlier. Now when a player comes up. He's the property of his team for three years at the minimum salary. And then the next three years you're in something called arbitration where an arbitrator decides your salary. But it's really it set. It's a pretty finite thing and you're not free agent for six years. I have always said. And i've spoken the commissioner about this for years. I would offer to the players to make every single player a free agent every single year. And you know what off the bitching and moaning they do. They would turn that offer down because they know that if players were free agents every year they get less money because they'd be paid on actual performance not on past performance. But if you were offering that would that not be a winning move. If what you're interested in his public relations in public opinion. I believe that fans would say well. What's wrong with that. You don't get any guarantees here. It's fend for yourself. It's democracy it's meritocracy so i would offer free agency immediately but the problem is there. I could get twenty-three votes to do it on the ownership side. I could get twenty three hundred to say. Here's we're gonna do. We're going to get rid of arbitration. We're going to get rid of service time position. Everybody is at market value. Because that's not going to change my payroll. I'm happy to allocate my eighty million dollars or one hundred million dollars in a different way and give ten million dollars to a player. Who's just starting like a wonder franco with the tampa bay rays instead of him making five hundred thousand dollars this year. He'd come in. And if i'd say all right i'm gonna give you five or six million dollars right now. Have a good year next year. I'm going to sign you for twenty. Because you're gonna be worth that if you do what he's already done or maybe in the process of doing but the for every one of the wander franco's or the fernando tat teases there's a million guys were paid millions of dollars just suck so i would offer the whole kit and caboodle to the union. And they won't be able to turn it down without not just looking terrible but there players would have to say wait a minute. It's the all players who wouldn't like it. The young players with love baseball is crazy jealous that basketball and football have salary caps correct because they have salary caps of the owners can't be idiots. No we have a salary cap. They way sorry they. They have a salary cap. They don't call it that it's called the competitive balance luxury tax threshold when that was negotiated as part of a collective bargain agreement. We all laughed within baseball. Because the union didn't realize they had just agreed to a salary cap without the concomitant salary floor. The reason why we don't want an actual cap is that always comes with a floor. You've got to spend a certain amount of money. That's not part of the collective bargaining agreement. All you have to do is spend it where anything. There's no minimum other than half a million dollars per player times twenty-six players. I guess that's the floor but that luxury tax threshold that only one team goes over and sometimes none. That's true cap. So are you arguing. That baseball has a better than than the other sports. For that reason. It's funny you say that. Yes because there's no floor all of these basketball teams. Have you noticed how many crappy players get paid so much money in the nba. It started with john concacaf whose name that no one remembers. I don't know if you remember. That name was a player who played for the hawk atlanta hawks and he signed this outrageous contract. And what's happened now. Is teams have to spend a certain amount of money so they're allocating it because there's a maximum contract and basketball. So that means some of the mediocre players are getting ten fifteen eighteen million dollars and then you're wondering why they're bad money traits that are happening. I have not heard that though your saying that. Baseball's financial arrangement is something that is stricter in terms of keeping the owners within bounds than basketballs. And footballs when it comes to spending are. There's no question. No one will say that because no one wants to be heard saying that. They took advantage of the union. No one in baseball will tell you that they have the advantage because of the luxury tax shocked. They'll tell you that's not a salary. Cap teams feel free to go over that but the punishment they get is so significant that teams treat it like a hard cap. I'd like to watch the yankees watch. The cubs were good enough that they could be adding in their far below the threshold. See if any team goes over the threshold at this trade deadline coming. Up july thirtieth. I will bet you dollars to donuts that no team. Who's not over the threshold now. And it's only the dodgers i believe. I think i'm right but you can google it. If you can find my parents wedding announcement. I believe that. Not one team will go over the threshold at the deadline. Let's take a minute for our friends over at candidate. Unhappy with your smile. You don't have to be thousands of people of us candidate. The clear comfortable removable and practically invisible liners to help straighten their teeth. And now they love their smile just like justin from atlanta. He had gaps in his teeth in both the front and the side. He always noticed that people would always look at my mouth first. 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Offer to save seventy five dollars on your starter kit candid. Co dot com slash. Dan code dan so in baseball owners. Do not go over their budget. Owners never never go over. I was gonna ask you. What percentage of time when you mentioned budget and payroll an owner simply can't control himself next thing you know. They're going over budget all the time because the majority of teams twenty teams. Their budget is way below the competitive luxury tax threshold. Jeffrey over budget every year. That's the irony is you all criticized him for not spending money. We lost money so many different years but he would say all right. But i want this picture. I want this picture. I want this player. i want this player. We didn't put them together well enough to win other than the world series. No three but owners do this all the time. Where they're told by their president what their payroll should be and then the owners decided the end of the day where they're going to go but not when they're up against the luxury tax threshold. Why do you think the red sox traded mookie betts do you think they trade him because they thought he sucked david. I don't want to call you a liar here but not finding any evidence this divorce on the internet. You're right actually. I totally lied. My parents did not get divorced events. divorce cody. You're just googling stuff. Oh wow what did you find. Jessica jessica found evidence of the divorce. Chris is bad at everything just went for the job. I didn't even look it up. Best david it says here that i have to go to the courthouse annette in which the files were filed to read the full disclosure. So i can't actually verify the decree in the divorce. Proceedings divorced in in fact happened. You're correct. I touched hold on. I need a break here dan. 'cause i have a little tear in my high that somehow i convinced jessica that in fact i wasn't lying about something that is so obvious in every way everything to do with every bone in my body but yet you had. Gts google bat shit and you discovered something. That's really that's fantastic. Thank you for. Validating me jessica. Thank you you gave us both of their full names. For a reason. I presume you wanted us to fact check you. I could have actually. I couldn't have cared less. About fact checking. What i tell you i actually if i had to put it on the scale of caring about you fact checking whether my parents got divorced in the nineteen seventies. It's zero zero. Here's a silver lining though just if you go to the courthouse to get those records another building you've been in yeah true. The court has very small. It's it's not a building it's just a big house. It's a federal building on the poll. Chris cody is a courthouse a building yes or no of course it is. That's not poor. The you said what you said. It was too small god. Can we move on past the building situation and just please. Can we get back to talking about what happened last night. Please go ahead. what else from last night. Because it was two nights ago that i thought the the more interesting stuff happened. But maybe it's just because it was the first night of the first time i was seeing the adults. Behave like children. I wasn't talking about baseball. What were you talking too fast. Were you talking about what happened last night where i was talking about the nba. I thought that's what this whole show is about. You wanna talk about bucks hawks. Bring him on dan wait. I thought that we were talking about trae. Young and luca and two thousand eighteen draft and forty eight point see. Had milwaukee remember. Remember this entire show starred about me being born in milwaukee. Did you not bring that up because of the game in milwaukee last night. I think we just brought that up because we were fact checking you on new york and the number of building bona fide. You had interesting. I thought you were trying to work anywhere. Trying to bridge to the bucks game and the performance by trae young. But i guess you've got other people on your ship to talk about that. Did you wanna talk about that. I that hawks team is surprised. Me at every turn and trae young is a lot better than i thought he was going to be when he was at oklahoma you often evaluate college players and then predict how they're going to be in the nba and then reflect on whether or not your predictions were correct. The ones that. I do most poorly. Yes i had. Greg oden before kevin durant so yes. There are certain ones that i do remember now. I didn't think trae young was going to be bad. But i just didn't think he was going to be. You know somebody who could do forty eight eleven and seven or whatever he did last night. It's very bizarre records. That are happening. And i wanted to ask about that because as an nba fan for all these years. They've never been hawks player. So dominique wilkins right had never had a game like that in the conference finals. Baby the hawks have never been to the conference finals. You're seeing just more records happening with people younger doing things. More often like russell. Westbrook getting the triple double record. And i'm wondering if it's just a reflection of the change in the nba. And i was watching the game in thinking about that trae. Young sort of a throwback player when he goes into lane with the floaters and how he drives to the basket. He doesn't just settle for threes and chuck and duck. And i liked the way the hawks plane play and that's interesting as they go through the playoffs. They may be a better team than the box as a team. 'cause the bucks are sort of isolated with through and he's swinging around to middleton if he's not hitting last night they're going to lose and i can. The hawks make the nba finals. I'm gonna call jamie gertz nascar. But i think they can. I've said no all along. But i've been wrong about that team all along. He though when you talk about team play he created a sister scored eighty of their hundred and eight points. And the distortion of the numbers. That have happened in that sports is largely because of three pointers but he didn't even shoot that while from three last night. You're right about the floaters. He controlled the entire game. Not only did he control the entire game. Two holiday is a first team defensive player and when he crossed him over and then shimmied on him. Drew holiday look lost because of the of the skill set took his time before shooting a three pointer. Was that a playground shimmy. I was watching it. I saw the hips move. I actually didn't define that as a shimmy. I thought it was him doing sort of tick as he got ready because he was so open. Do you think as a rookie. He was actually in a conference finals. Game doing shimmy prior to shooting. Chris cody put that on the poll. He is not a rookie. But chris. cody. Put it on the poll. Was that a shimmy at lebatardshow. You enjoyed that game though. You got immersed in that game. What did you find yourself. Rooting for the hawks. Because we're going to have new blood in the playoffs and all these younger players are. It's now the younger players. You got cool. And you've got chris paul but basically there are a lot of younger players coming from the for the stuff of the old guys tapping in every sport. Isn't it take a look at baseball. You got to teach in a kunia now. Franko coming up. It's it's all about young players which is why bringing this full circle. Why the union so concerned about getting these young players paid 'cause they don't get paid the nba of course doesn't have that issue. I think the hawks. I'm rooting for the box. I love milwaukee. So that is my preference. I'd like to have a title. The about haven't one a tile nineteen seventy-one with lew alcindor and kareem abdul-jabbar who became criminal jabbar bar. Obviously i wonder. Did you know that jessica criminal georgia bars for name was lew alcindor. I did know that. Okay and did you know. Want wanna title with the bucks. Can't say i did. You mentioned franco david. Everyone in baseball is talking about this guy. Because he's as can't miss his can't miss get so tell us about franko so anyone tells you that a prospect is can't miss just delete that person. Don't use that person as professional as a resource for you on your show because that person doesn't know anything about anything you can go four for four. You can go twelve year i eighteen. You can throw a no hitter in your first outing in his rookie pitcher that there is zero zero correlation between that. And whether or not you're going to have a full great career it is so difficult to have a long career in baseball. Could franco be a great player. Forever could not. I don't know you don't sign players to term deals like that because it's so so risky but franken has the tools not a ton of power. Even though he had a home run in his first game he's just a tools guy and he's not flashy guy he can hit. He can hit for average which in this day and age is meaningless right now. It's all about power and he doesn't have the most power slick fielding. No good arm number one prospect. He's really really good. Does that mean he's going to be a perennial all-star where that he's going to have a fifteen year career their way more flameouts than the miguel cabrera's who also and he was brought up was looked to have a long career which he ended up having. There's a lot more flameouts than cabrera's that took a turn. I was not expecting because everyone in baseball is talking about this guy as a prospect and you just went That can't miss isn't can't miss that he's tools e but that average doesn't matter you were surprisingly negative even while saying. He's a very good prospect. The number one prospect. I was surprised. Yes. of course. It's a random game you can guarantee nothing. Anybody can get hurt anybody can short circuit but franko is talked about like the best of the players who are coming up or talked about where it's it's as guaranteed as you can be in a sport that doesn't come with those fair enough and i'm al characterize it that way. That's why he's ranked number one prospect. Because of all the things i said but you were trying to say that this is now the beginning of this amazing career. Now the fact that he's a tampa bay ray gives them a better shot than most because they have a way of making their players way. Better and causing great jealousy and consternation among other teams trying to be like the raise so that he that's what he has going for him but other than that i mean i i certainly wouldn't set him apart and say he's going to be as good or better than two ts or cuneo or not. You gotta let these players play for a long number of years to see whether or not they end up sort of being hall of fame worthy or even in that conversation david. I don't know if you realize what you just did but it sort of like rubbing genie bottle you said a particular word that always lures out around here for about more than fifteen years. A particular person as that person arrived because every time. I hear that word. He's there. Yeah every time tolsey. Every time that word gets around here. I pop up that pops up. It doesn't matter where i am any time. Anyone is talking about tools and sports. I love tolls man just popped up as soon as the shooting. Shoot seen it. David was radiant. He was glowing. Do you have a movie that you're reviewing for us this week. It takes a tool right. I have one question for his. God's if you want when you say tools e are you evaluating a player and the actual five tools in baseball. Were you using it from a personality. Standpoint no. I'm evaluating The the players in baseball. When i talked tools. And listen for me. I only care about a couple of tools. I don't care about five tools. I care about tools home. Runs or be is that's it. That's that's what the game is all about david. Rbi's is nothing rbi. Revie's runs batted in runs batted ins tomato tomato potato potato. Not i happen to. I happen understand why you like home runs and is because you're used to the statistics that come out in the old days where it was just average at home runs and rbi right. What was on the tv. It was a simpler time. David yes it was an that makes that would make you a phenomenal evaluator. I think you'd get a job. If it doesn't work out with the lab untarred you could be in the race front office again. The five tool player is only in baseball right the tools that we don't really talk about tools in another sport other than baseball. Not that way. I'm trying to think of football tools or the basketball tools. You got shooting defending you've got speed. I don't know. Can we talk about a movie. That's been. I've been dying to review with you. Because it's it's it's so upsetting to me upsetting. Yeah i have an actor who i love. And his name is seth rogan and him because he makes me laugh. I love him because he's original because he's intelligent and because he finds a way to put his personality onto the screen in a way that resonates with me but now he's become a caricature of himself and his performances in his movies to me have suffered as a result. I watched an american pickle the other day which is a movie that he was in that he basically start in plain two parts both his grandfather and himself about an immigrant who ends up growing growing pickles. And i found it to be not funny not interesting. I've found it to be just full of stereotypes in cheap jokes and stupid jokes. The likes of which. I'd expect from someone. Other than seth rogan. And i was upset about it. It's hard to make comedy these days david. It's been a minute since people people don't feel like laughing i don't know i don't actually do. You have a theory on this. Because i've said a number of times. But i haven't explored any way why it is. It's been so long since. America gathered around a hangover. Gather round an an talked about a comedy with word of mouth. Well because right now we're in a situation where what makes things funny. Is stereotypes right to remember the the movie up in the air. Which would which. I was one of my top movies. I don't know if you saw. It was with george clooney travelers about a couple of business. Travelers are related business travelers. They go around firing people and he's online and security going through the airport and he's deciding which line to go on and he looks at people with the baby and says don't get on that line they've got strollers it takes too long. He looks at a align with with Asians asian americans or just asian people and says that's the line to get on because they wear slip on shoes blessed their soul and she said how could you say that and he said well. I stereotype and i do that because generally it's true and i'm thinking about a line in a movie that wouldn't played today. All of the different things played in years ago. You can't do so. Comedians are trying to find different ways to be funny because the ways of racism and and sort of nationalism e can't do so it's like a new training tap in. It's like people who were surgeons learning how to do it. Like on e. r. with their clippers inside a scope as opposed to opening up the heart. You need complete new training and were sort of in that area now. I like seth rogan. But i'm surprised to hear that he's one of your favorites and i was also surprised. In general by the run he had after forty year old virgin as a guy who's just a funny stone owner and he got a lot of opportunities. they're based on stealing forty forty year old virgin as an ancillary character where he got a ten year run basically being able to run the run hollywood and make whatever he wants. And it's not surprising. Is it to you that there wouldn't be a master evolution there for thespian. I mean that's not the kind of actor he was. Well there are some who can right. There's a steve martin who goes from wild and crazy guy and he sort of matures. Robin williams goes from mork and mindy to doing major major movies. Even bill murray from caddyshack boston translation. Some of the west anderson movies so there are ways that actors can evolve as they get older. Because what's funny and cool when you're twenty. Five is not as funny or as cool when you're forty five. Now listen everyone. Likes getting stoned. Or i get it. It's fun but there's something about when you're in college. There goes from appropriate to creepy. And the question is where you on that scale as you're engaging with your audience and you want to avoid the creepy part of the scale and i just don't know that rogan has done that. I have range every time. I check in on an article with seth rogan david. It's either he's smoking or pottery. Like pot is that no pottery. He's actually he likes ceramics and he likes doing pottery every magazine article. I read about him. It's it's an it's a. It's a hobby that he had ashtrays for weed smoking. You mean like patrick swayze in ghost type of pottery does. I've actually never been on before. Jessica's been made furious now. What are you so angry about. I love seth rogan. I feel like you guys aren't giving him enough credit as a writer and producer. I heard his new book came out. And it's really funny and great. I man this is. This is hard to hear from me. I think you're you're you're being defensive. I love seth rogan as well on merely same american pickle. Did you watch american pickle. I did not watch an american pickle. David so i guess that's sort of the end of this. Conversation is but in american pickle the whole premises he falls into a vat of pickle and then he wakes up a century later. How good could that movie be. He seth rogan. You've gotta make good movies. You can't ride your stone a reputation from pineapple express forever right or knocked up eventually. It's going to catch up with you in the power. That he has is going to disappear and he's just going to become another sort of store owner who used to be famous for a short period of time a long time ago. I mean but known expected cheech marin to go on to make serious movies seth. Rogan is not the talk about a poll. Are you telling me that. Seth rogan is as good and qualified and talented his cheech. And chong it's not. They're not even the same neighborhood who's better says she. Chinchiang are way more talented their waste smarter in terms of all the writing and ended but that they did of their movies. It's not even close for me is. That's a serious thing that you just said it's a serious thing. I know he's serious that yeah he's got a load on. I thought you were going to go cheech and chong did not dominate over a decade. All of hollywood. Are you well time. You're not even close. Cheech and chong in their day had way more power in hollywood than seth rogan has correctly. I'm not disputing that. Cheech and chong had a wonderful run. What i'm disputing is that. They didn't get to make the kind of movie that seth rogan produced and directed which is the one. Now it wasn't it was the one where he started with. All the people in the world was ending cy fi and it was the end. This is the and this is the end. That cheech and chong didn't get that kind of hollywood star power to make a movie. Yeah but dan cheech and chong trailblazers. That's what david is trying to say. They had a lot of power and high in hollywood david's right there were the first to do what they were trailblazers. I agree with david on this one. Just because you keep saying they were trailblazers to the truth. The first to do it. I mean. What does that mean. please tell me more. You don't want now that you're out there with this. And you've had a strong opinion about this at a lot of people say that they blazed a lot more than trails. Tell us a little more at tell us a little more about what it is your expertise because you got in here aggressively on cheech and give us what else you've got beyond your trailblazer move. I felt like david really needed support. Now perhaps this is the support he did not want but i felt like he needed some support teachers. Dan when you're a trailblazer when you're the first to do so our anything else. You can't like your ally here samson you cannot. He doesn't have dave so my concerns too. Is that your ability to articulate. Our position is not exactly what. I would hope foreign a spokesperson so i think that sticking to the one word answers you're missing a tool the tool that you're not tools the enough in this regard. It's not that cheech and chong were trailblazers. If you're gonna use the word blaze you're going to open yourself up to lebatardshow. They blazed all right. They were getting stoned all day. What you have to say is back in those days before streaming before. There were other ways to make movies and get audiences. They dominated in a way that today they would be even more explosive than seth rogan gets like comparing people from a different era in basketball or baseball. You can't do it so you have to look at them where they were at the time of movies. Cheech and chong in the seventies were far bigger in relation to the movie industry than seth rogan of the two thousands to the movie industry. That is indisputable. That did they would david. Why did you make dan such a tightwad. There those those weird you made the well tightwad night used correctly. There is a fuddy-duddy as he made you he made me very very stiff. You understood the it took two for me not to call them spokespersons instead of spokespersons. You you are. You are in a place here. Though david these guys just they were doing something at a time culture in america that it was you know. Obviously a lot more taboo than it is now. I'm wondering if jessica even knows who cheech and chong are i've heard of cheech and chong but when you just said cheech marin i was like cheech marin i had to google looked at his. I'm i'm like all right. He's got some bone a few days on their bridges. Yeah one of them was the caddy and tin cup right. You know that dan. You are two generations from being someone googling. Yeah with that. Dan lebatard i. I'm trying to remember what that was. Let me do. Oh yeah google that. Pad freedom thing or piracy thing or was that stu weiner like i can't remember and then they move onto the next thing generations away. Yes david that's the way it happens to every one. That's one of the things that happens with mortality. It's why it's why. Conan o'brien stands over the grave of calvin coolidge in wonders. When's the last time anyone ever mentioned. Calvin coolidge yes. That's correct everybody knows. Tommy chong the pineapple season one masked singer see later. David oh my god.

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Local Hour: Jemele Hill

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

1:13:18 hr | 3 months ago

Local Hour: Jemele Hill

"So you the boy who the hell's cabin boy. Somebody named tony. Who knows once we got the skip. Weller jumped ship because he knew we would sail to pirate radio with the scipion crew. We got wind in our sails in the sky is blue. There's a devil lombarno so much work to for the pirates radio. We begin in the obvious place with a tweet. I am going to read you right now. A tweet that reads. I would like to thank everyone who is still wearing a mask. It saves me a great deal of time. You're mass tells me. I don't need to talk to you. Know you work with you or try to understand your mumblings. You are superfluous to requirement. Many things that is from right said fred. He's very outspoken. Well is right. Said fred one person. I think it's a duo the ban. But i've seen a lot of quotes attributed to one of them. Put it on the poll. Please chris cody. We will wait here for billy to get here right said fred. Is that one person author of. I'm too sexy. I don't know whether it's for my shirt or whether the songs jokes things right. But i don't know whether the title of the song is. I'm too sexy. Or i'm too sexy for my shirt while as he was also too sexy for milan so it was probably just. I'm too sexy. Was the name of the song york and japan and the foo fighters madison square garden. Show that requires everybody be vaccinated on cat. Yeah yeah it was. It was too sexy. I can confirm its duo. It is fred and richard fair brass formed in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. I mean fred doesn't have to twist people's arms to see to believe that he's part of it. Richard richards got a hard time. Chris please put it on. the poll. Is fred terrible name and are we still making friends because you delete you have put a you. Put a difficult life on a baby. When you've named fred. fred has to go through life as the toddler the soon thereafter. And that's just not great. You don't see people opting for fred anymore. Boko freddie even frederick but just read one syllable. It lands with a thud. There are a number of things locally that i want to get to stugatz his already scamming. He's gone to tahoe before anyone else didn't tell anyone. I found out the way. Mike did late last night that he was already in tahoe and i did. He assume today was off that he assume the rest of the show is going to tahoe at a more appropriate time meaning tomorrow. He's already there with his family. I'm sure that that's going to end up on the expense report. I just got i. This is my first experience with the full stugatz thing. So i say to stugatz on e. calls me on saturday. Hey i'm thinking about going early because apparently there's a lot to be done there if you get there early. He was dead already booked right thinking about it so i go god's if you go i would like to send you with some equipment so you can gather things while you're there. Call me when you decide that you're going to go so that i can meet up with you. Don't live that far from me. And i can go bring you some equipment and then two days later. Get a text. i'm in tahoe. And i'm like when did that happen. Correct welcome to our life. You're new to this experience would that that's that's punk. Move because witty would have provided some equipment that could have actually accomplished some of the pipedreams that he was thrown out there but now he's left to his own device. Billy and not being able to actually help us billy. Why are you shaking your head. Because you're familiar with the work of this sleazy grimy and very real creature actually. I know this is an in vogue. But i wanted to fence. God's here stu gods has been fairly consistent since we started talking about this saying. I'm going for the entire week and we're like well it's not necessary and he's like yeah no. I'm going for the whole week right now. Like maybe wednesday makes no. I'm going to be the whole week. It's like okay. Sure if you want to. But you don't need to be no but i spoke to on saturday on saturday and it was still to be determined and thirty six hours. You'll never give you an answer on anything. The party is being dishonest about is. He's doing all these things in group text right now like i'm out here. I'm ready to work. Who needs me. And it's like we know you're kind of out there and you're not going to do. That's just so he can expend right for his family. Vacationed can i grab anyone for you. It's like nobody six in the morning. We start recording. That's gonna grab romo on in the morning. It's five in the morning. he's going to go knock on romo's door. Well that's another thing. He knows that he's not getting anyone. But let me teach you about stu gods as soon as to god says i may do something. That's what he's doing but he's not going to tell you that he's doing it because he knows that it's wrong. For example if you ever look in the show calendar and it says stugatz may be off. Stu gods his one hundred percent gonna be off and you can add a day on the front end and probably on the back end to that. They also and know for sure he's going to be off all of those days. Another thing he said in a group text yesterday was kelsey has totally agreed to come on. So that's one to keep waiting for him to come on freedom. I'm still waiting. He is totally agreed to come on freedom a month ago still waiting so we do not have stugatz today and i. We learned about that last night yet. We expect him to jump into the zoom and be totally box out and have a bad internet connection and worse acoustics. No greg cody either. Unfortunately chris cody has told his father not to embarrass him with what he might wear. So we're not. We're going to be deprived of the content of greg cody wandering around tahoe with celebrities in boat shoes. That are twenty seven years old. Yeah but i understand. Our fans are probably wondering. Where greg cody is. He wasn't here last week. He was under the weather. Trust me there's going to be too much. Greg cody content over the week. They are going to grab a lot of stuff out in lake. Tahoe and greg found his way into this trip. I found out trying to reschedule greg for this week that he was even going to tahoe. Which should be a blast and super embarrassing for you chris. The one we get today is red. I mean this is always an experience. He's flying in there any other game light. He is an and he says that this. Espn story says. What is a cauldron for others is my hot tub and so i just can't wait to whatever it is that he's got to give us read. I mean is going to in here in any moment now and also jamal hill because we know you want to hear about that story. Espn for many years in trying to change the culture and successfully. So how we got farted out at the end but we were arguing on behalf of espn covering itself with the shining light of judgement that it puts on all others. But that's not the way that it's done over there and so emanuel osho iso acho has tweeted out a beer pong. You can understand why it is that i would do that. Emmanuel acho has tweeted that espn needs to do a thirty for thirty about espn and kendrick perkins ever the teammate. Because he was a teammate. Yesterday as rachel nichols apologized for seven seconds and then richard jefferson and kendrick perkins head to carry and they've got a real issue over there just that has caught up across racial lines and gender lines and is a problem because that was a bad spot for richard jefferson and kendrick perkins to be in. But he's a good teammate. And he has come out and he has said to emanuel osho. And i think he may have been. You made it dodgeball bro. You really need to do better. You're working for another network with your own show. Do better homeboy. Real talk. Cleanse your so cleanse your soul and carry the hell on kendrick perkins being a good teammate. We will get into all of that. In a second but locally i wanted to get into the ground breaking the derek king is doing because some people have argued that that's going to divide locker rooms when only one guys getting the money but he wants to share the money and it's now burning. It's all gonna collapse because you're going to get boosters involved now. With all sorts of unusual arrangements that involve sponsorship and businesses. And someone like the eric king is going to be able to make a lot of money. It's really cool. That miami is so well positioned for this. Dear king made an amazing business decision by coming back to school. It helps it. He's like thirty seven years old and he has all this life experience. It's no it's no surprise at him. Mackenzie milton are spearheading. Al things but he's got equity and all these companies he's got multiple endorsements. I think he's up to five disease at the wharf with the mayor. Introducing yet another one of these. He's got a podcast coming out. I believe there's a rumblings of sponsorship for every football player on the football team. I can confirm that. So miami is really well positioned here. And i understand what you're saying like it's all going to burn down because all these boosters are going to be giving kids money they do already. They do already actually miami's really well position if you're looking from a football perspective because tell the sec is going to get better because of this it's gonna be a bidding war though in a way that pretty overt though and is gonna make people uncomfortable. Put it on the poll. Guillermo at lebatardshow should your senior quarterback in college have multiple. Ira's but the sec's been paying kids for decades now right they. They've been doing. This and kids are gonna come to the realization. Look i can make you know a certain amount of money and tuscaloosa or i could say closer to my family making okay amount of money. Would you rather be rich and tuscaloosa which rather be rich and south florida. I think the sec is already kind of met at ceiling because they were playing by different set of rules. Now the the playing field's been loud. Everyone can play now. texas can play. Texas wasn't playing for real. Before i think every school every conference is doing it at least the the big ones the ones that have been playing in the playoffs the last few years and been successful. It's not just the sec. And if people are worried that there's going to be like animosity in the locker room because someone gets a commercial deal and makes fifty k. More than the person next to them. Like i think those people don't really have an understanding about the way that this ecosystem has worked last. I don't know twenty years thirty years. I don't know just i still think like if i in any workplace you are working next to somebody who's making ten to fifty times more than you. There's going to be an insane amount of jealousy. But i think like to the larger point. Mike has been very good on this subject. Which is to say that. He's always constantly pointed out that in bigger cities programs like miami come under scrutiny in a way that in smaller cities where the entire town revolves around the college football team. It's a lot easier to get away with. i think. Probably at miami particularly after the amount of scandals that they've had they have felt under a series amount of scrutiny to the point where they probably are not competitive in terms of what they're paying players and now they can be as a result of the fact that it's over the table. Someone making more money than you at your workplace like. Yeah that's the real world like if these players wanna play in the pros that's going to happen so better get used to it like when i had a college job as a eighteen year old people. I worked with made more money than me. Let's how it goes. I wonder if this impacts the play on the field. Like i wonder if guards all of a sudden start getting pissed off that. They're not getting their just amount of money or something. And they're protecting quarterbacks and the quarterbacks kind of like a dick to them and they're like what maybe get hit next play. Maybe start treating us better. Except eric kings going to be paying. You can have a slush fund them enough and he's going to get hit more and i think everyone's making great points and i think this has been a play for decades already. The quarterback has been making more money than the guards. Guards have known that the quarterbacks have been making more money at the big time programs and is absolutely right on all the schools are doing it. There's one conference that is doing it. Wild west sow where everyone looks the other way. Because of my point. That chris echoed. Which is economy's run on the football program. And now you're not gonna have the same sort of scrutiny. And while it's not the same as he sees so going to have the most money to give these kids. There's they're going to run out of car dealerships. In alabama's what i'm saying and miami has a certain number of options and equality life and family life or a lot of these top recruits that. Come out of south. Florida that those schools can't they can't make up the difference with just a simple dollar anymore. Stu gods has popped into the zoom at six. am tahoe time To jessica's point we've heard federal testimony. And i've said this a number of times that creighton a starter at creighton in basketball is worth one hundred thousand dollars. That's the going rate. According to the fbi's wiretap situation so imagine what a quarterback is at a major football program when a starting player at crate in the going rate is one hundred thousand dollars and you just heard the list of things that the eric king has in the works. Chris cody please find for me. This is after four days it can. Some sometimes be difficult to catch up to speed chris. Wittingham was as unpolished at the start of what he began to say that involved a great deal of stumbling and staggering around in a way. That made you howl with laughter. If you can find that for me it is the lack of grace you do not expect ever from fancy lead after four days off. What am i gonna do with stu. Gods here in the zoom. It's dark and tahoe. i can. i can barely see him. You didn't tell people you're going early. Me and mike didn't know until last night that you weren't here. I didn't think you were even going to be here today. Because of what our it is. What am i supposed to do with our crowded. Show today with stan. Amine and jamal to try. And include you from tahoe. When you're not doing anything except checking in so you could put it on your expense account. dan down by the lake. We live by simple code and that code is you just roll with it and so if you use me you use me. If you don't use me you don't use be understood a roll it. That's it because down by the lake. Dad that's the we live by. Okay why are you telling people near the code that you live by that. You're getting people guests today at six. Am when no one's available until wednesday or thursday. I'm not getting anyone at six. Am down by the by the lake dam. We live by go. You just go with the flow ed. So whatever travis kelsey wakes up patrick bonds whatever they wake up you know wednesday thursday. They're playing right in the group behind us to get those guys on and went to get him on for you. I'm going to get him on for me. I'm going to get him on for the entire show to get him off the audience. Because that's what i do. Bill i wanted to ask you. I got jealous of the atlanta braves. This weekend for a number of different reasons. I don't know whether starling martina whether that's a real offer. Not i would ask for your opinion there. Three years thirty million is below market value. He says he wants to be here. It's the kind of offer you make when you want someone to refuse that offer and then you can blame that person for refusing that offer and you say that's the amount that was a good amount what's wrong with ten million dollars a year for three years. You thought when you saw the marlins it's one of the few players on that team that you trust. He's having a great year. He's been great for the marlins he's been their best player their best position player. You made what of three years for thirty million. I'll get into why it is. I was jealous of atlanta. And a second. It seems a little low but it's just a starting point. I mean to your point. I think that it makes sense that this is coming out now right. The trade deadline is at the end of the month. So you wanna make the offer and then if he says no and you get rid of him you're like we made him an offer and he didn't take it so we had to get rid of him so i mean. Hopefully this is the starting point. Hopefully he resigns. But at the same time i am twenty million dollars a year right like ten million as low but he while he's the best player on the team. Don't hang of yourself. Because of him for three years. I would think right and then you have the bad news at six those going to be out the rest of the season. It seems like we're a little bit of behind on this five year plan. Let's say in terms of things turning around all the way for the more. Well we're behind by decades. It's good that they're not overspending for a guy that's probably a number two three or flake. He's not a number one on a team so you don't want to give them money as a number one now so it does seem like a low offer though just with three or thirty million dollars is nothing that sprite. That's i mean. It seems really low. But i'm glad rather have them offer too little and lose them than way overspend for him. But do you believe the offers a serious one or do you believe the offers just made to look like a serious one so you don't yell at them as what i am asking you do. Trust them they the the reason i was jealous. Billy is because i have seen over the last few decades when atlanta was playing in fulton county stadium. I have seen what it is like to have. Your baseball team passed down through winning through generations. and so i was floored post pandemic. I've gotten so used to baseball games. Being something that is just made for television that there aren't crowds at many of these games that they're just these things that are put on television because they need that satisfy the television contracts and so what i was jealous of in atlanta's they turn on all of their phones and it's a friday night and they've got ronald makunyane freddy freeman just monstrous top of the order and that place is is is swipe. It is swinging the way that. I'm not used to baseball ever swinging on a friday night like it was a happening in atlanta on a friday night. A regular season. Game with a totally full ballpark for the marlins. And i've seen those big games that were played in the nineties between the marlins and the braves and the when the marlins had that chance to stack. Success is on top of each other after winning a couple of world series. Unlike the braves they weren't able to parlay into anything that felt like that. I was stunned to see a baseball stadium on a friday night filled and swaying with really happy people. I wouldn't wanna be brave sin. I hate the braves and ronald kuna junior bubble boy over there. You can't throw inside because you start getting ejected if you throw to close him what a joke. What a joke and snicker. Don't get me started on him. That guy's a clown that shouldn't have been allowed. What happened the other day. Then you throw in again do it. Did you see what happened when you throw up in and you don't hit them. Did you see what happened there. Dan i drake south. That's what happens. E cowers in the big moments when you don't hit him leaned into it a little bit while he didn't lean into it. I can't even go down that path. But i'm tired of these crybaby braves and their ronald kunia. Junior and all his theatrics every time he gets hit. You know who's been got who's been hit. As many times as he has. Brian anderson you know has been hit one time lesson him. Miguel row us. You don't hear any about that all years old. Whose coup to those into. I'm so sick and tired of them. And don't tell me about the nineteen ninety moorlands. Okay because you know whose fault that was your friend. Age wayne zinger who ruined baseball in south florida. And i don't miss him. I'm just gonna say it. I'm sorry. I know that that's a controversial take. I'm sorry thank you for nothing wayne housing and your empty promises of your blockbuster park and this and that you ruined baseball down here and i didn't forget it and when you came back in that last game of the old stadium. I booed you while people were cheer view. I booed you. And i would boot you again because you ruin marlins and you ruined baseball down here. And if jeffrey loria ever shows his face i will do him as well. I'm sick and tired of all these things. From the past the more was being brought back up and this and that and this and that no more of that. I wanna kunia so badly. No you don't no you don't you don't want i don't want i want take. If they offered him for starling martin would say no thank you. I wouldn't take. I wouldn't take thank you billy billy. Where do you think the braves would pitch a kuna. If they traded him and had to face them where do you think they pitch them. Inside inside is where they'd pitch them because that's where you have to pitch him or else. He bats eight hundred against you and you know you know who you know. Who'd be directing them to do that. Who will doing who. Billy brian snicker crybaby field growing temper tantrum. Have you ever seen anything like that. Dan have you ever seen anything like that. The umpires got on the field. They said go to first base and then the manager comes out and he throws a temper tantrum which is a horrible example for children. And i hope that no children were watching. Because what you do. When you don't get your way is you go out there and you start throwing a temper tantrum and you start screaming and stopping. And you hold your. He started doing all that stuff. And then you get your way and what does that too that just rewards the bad behavior so this snickers becoming a monster because of the fact that they just give him what he wants. And then donny baseball. Don't get me started on him. Because i've had it with him too then going on and saying that he did a good job for his team. Get out of here donnie. You know what you should have done. Show walked over. And you should've punch snicker right in the head for what he did. That's what you should have done. And then you should have pulled your entire team off the field at said. We're not playing this. This is a joke. this has become a joke. You can kick me out. You can get my pitching coach. You can kick my starting pitcher up. This entire team is leaving the field and we will forfeit this game because this has become moderates. But i'm not going to stand this. Any log donny. What mute your lake. Put it on the poll guillermo. Please stop yelling at me at lebatardshow. Put it on the poll. Is it a bad example for kids for a manager to throw a temper tantrum the head scraping and holding their nose and da. Da da da da jamal hill professional professional person has been listening to all that she has been waiting agrees to get hungry right. We will be on with jemele hill in moment. Mike just got done saying of stugotz. He is white privilege because he joining us from tahoe. Where amine mean allred. I mean who just flew in from phoenix. The finals are in phoenix. He is about as geographically far from the finals as you can be even though. He lives in phoenix. While remaining in the contiguous united states. And we're all staring dots. And a mean and jessica just pointed out that he looks like a government informant who being interviewed by sixty minutes and mike just said but a really dumb one a dumb one that can't actually conceal his identity. And we've also got the future fund going during difficult subject matter of a leaf blower being present somewhere around that lapse really cranked. It up was forty laughing. You hear in the background. Is jamal hill. So the story from the weekend is the soap opera. I'm gonna give you some context here if you don't know what we're talking about but you've got some infighting that's become public with a rachel nichols and maria taylor. Can we call it. A kerfuffle has it gone to the level of kerfuffle and it is a lot of soap opera. And i also think the thing that people are talking about is about there about six or seven things as interesting or more interesting that people aren't clucking about as it regards this new york times story but evidently it would appear from the reporting that rachel nichols was protecting some real estate and maria. Taylor got caught in the crossfire. I before i give you any of my opinions here. I want to hear from journal. And i mean because this has been a talking point and you're not gonna hear about it on. Espn because they don't talk about this stuff when it happens to them. The transparency is something that is something we can demand when the shame belongs to others and so a main can talk about this because he knows the personalities and dramatic and talk about it because she knows this subject matter in this terrain. Sle jamal first of all you read this story and thought what well. This is something that i knew about a year ago. I mean because people have to realize that initially this was reported by dance fan but in a much different context than what we learned but of course as somebody wants worked at espn and workday. Twelve years naturally. When the story. I started a being reported at heard from a lot of people who still work there and in terms of people being and giving different context in perspectives about how they saw the situation I think the situation a lot more complicated than people have kind of weighed in and said Yes there is an element of race. That is here. But there's also elements about our business. That are quite common. Unfortunately and There's also elements of ambition of territory of a lot of things that are mixed in their bad management. I think that should be among at the top of the list. Because i think this is really a reflection of a culture that was created by espn's management. I mean ultimately while you certainly can have your criticisms of rachel nichols in terms of how she handled it. You can have your criticism. Handled adam mendelssohn lebron's advisor in what he said in his comments but to me so much of this rest on the lap of the people in charge the leadership. Here is something that you see in the reporting. You're waiting for an answer as something festers four year and and one of the things that i found as interesting as the story in the new york times is days before. And i'm always telling you guys this where you're leaks. Come from look around for your leaks on the how when the wear and the new york post all of a sudden maria taylor who did nothing wrong here and is the only one who looks good in this situation. She gets smeared with once. Stephen a money as her contract comes up during the final. So i mean what kind of problem do they have on their hands here. I mean the contract situation obviously makes things more complicated because now anything they do is a referendum right and espn is an animal that is very sensitive to public criticism and to what people are talking about it so they painted themselves in a corner now because they've mismanaged situation like jamal said where you know what the how they treat maria in this moment when our contracts is up which by the way his smile for the timing during the final very everything that happened with the pandemic. I don't if you want. If like i know this has been weaponized by the wind locks and the shit stained clay travis. I know what's been weaponized. Where they go after. Maria taylor and this is if if it is somehow an orchestrated leak in the new york times. It is quite the leverage move and in terms of business. It would be smart business for management team to do that. I don't know if that's true but that's how it's being weaponized. Yeah and and there's another layer to this that the djamil didn't mention is three letters. Ca they read both of these parties. And they're known for you know. Basically doing the highlander thing. That can only be one. and i. i don't know if the general public knows or cares really because that's the other part of this. Who cares right. What right now. We care because these are characters that we know these people we know and it's a setting an arena that we're all familiar with having been worked there. But the amount of influence that ca has espn or and the growth of influence over the last decade is a direct driver for these types of conflicts to happen and without data. I don't know if Any of this comes to this sort of head because what. Espn has done over. What i feel like over the last decade or so is a lot of kind of like trying to appease the letters as opposed to trying to take care of the talent who they're dealing with jamal. He mentions the he mentioned. That's the leadership to me to me. The leadership here has been. Ca's well this is why i slightly pushed back on. What you said a mean is that. Yeah you're right. I mean and as somebody who still receives representations from ca myself personally let me be totally transparent with that in happened since about two thousand and thirteen So i guess. I know every single party involved. But here's what i push back. I don't think this is there can only be one situation. I think the choice was made. And we wanna be just being fully. Honest here is that the choice was made to have maria as the host of countdown and we know the responsibilities and the duties that come with that this is also an opportunity that clearly rachel dot that she would like to be in line for in deserve does painting them on a collision course but nevertheless the choice was made into me with this. Assuming this reporting is correct that rachel nichols was promised to do the finals. That was the first mistake. Okay because the reality is that is a duty reserved for the host so our immediate question is well. Why did you even promise her to do that. When you know you didn't pick her to be the host. So that's what. I'm talking about a bad management in. Maybe that you know. I don't know maybe that's something to see a negotiated on our behalf but the bottom line is they said yes and that is a direct reflection of the systemic stuff. That happens that. Espn if you're gonna give maria the hosting job give her the hosting job which means every component and if that means you have to have a conversation with somebody then you do. 'cause that's what you get paid to do as a manager. They certainly don't have problems. Haven't tough conversations with a lot of people around there right and so this is. This is what i'm talking about. Where the additional layer of not as bad management but also sometimes being unable to tail people. No i mean. That's pretty much. It and i think the insulting part For certainly for black women of for black people watching this play out is we get told a thousand times a day in various ways that the only reason that we got our jobs is because we're a diversity. Higher now unpacking. The layers of of wet. Rachel said is that do you think that. Espn considered in fact in the fact that okay here. We have a primarily black spore. We have a very talented hostess A very town in on on air talent and maria taylor and this is representative of what the lead looks like to me. There's no fault in considering that as part of your choice in reason to have her. Be the house because it's not about her. Ability is also about the fact that you wanna have a product that actually reflects the league that you cover and i don't think that there's anything wrong with that if it is we can argue about it whatever But that being said is that they're still that undercurrent of the only reason she's there is because of that may be. I don't think rachel saying that. Explicitly but that undercurrent was there and that is the part that you know. Frankly why some of her colleagues are probably looking at her a particular way down right now especially some black alleys. Because that's was a felt in his a sensitive nerve for us because we get told that all the time and let me. Just also say. I'm no rachel. For many years. I have never had a negative interaction. With rachel nichols is always treated me well. But that doesn't mean my experience with her is not the blanket of who she is as a person and i don't say that trying to go after her whatever but how somebody deals with you they can deal with ten other people at ten totally different ways. So i'm not gonna use my experience to say that this proves without a doubt that rachel nichols impossibly could never have done something shady. I don't know that. Because i don't know where that will to say what she would or wouldn't you so i guess my thing is first of all you're right beyond maria. You know being representative of the sport that she covers. She's awesome at her job. Correct is like any and if you can get both win win win win exactly so to me. It's not a question about her efficacy. Or even if the here's a this is the part was trying to say on. Twitter doesn't never comes across people assume the espn is extremely well. Run company and that the logic that you just laid out there like this is the black sport you want. You know the faces that cover the sport to be somewhat in line with that and so we've got someone who's awesome at her job and she's black and she has a report with the people that it's a. It's a great choice but the problem is we know that's not how. Espn makes decisions right like all that is true and also is to make decisions like that. Oh my god they put somebody black out there and you know this and we all know this because we saw dan. How many times over the years topics that we wanted to touch. We get a call from the babysitter. Don't do that stay away from that right. And the moment last summer happened all of a sudden everyone has free rein to talk in very specific terms about white supremacy about how jamal was wronged because everything she said was true and she caught the sword for it and then three years later. We're all allowed to say it on. Espn air on every platform. And no one says work you think espn made a strategic. Well the numbers are no. They're panicking. They panicked and they do whatever they thought would. Stop the fire. And it led pretty directly to maria taylor's rise at the company and her profile at the company and her voice at the company and her voice behind the scenes djamil. What kind of problem in house do they have now. That was uncomfortable for me to watch. Rachel nichols give ten seconds of apology and then kendrick perkins and richard jefferson went two minutes on the subject of race where she has to sit out the conversation that was caused by what she was calling in the report spy video from a hotel at a massive problem on their hands. But it's not a massive problem that started with. Rachel nichols maria taylor. It's what a mean was talking about. Is that when you are constantly reacting to public criticism or to the moment as opposed to having structural things in place where you address these things. That's why you wind up looking sloppy and crazy before the rest of the world. And you know they get about you know. My situation is like they were reacting to a moment then. That moment said that people didn't wanna hear any political talk any racial talk any social justice. Talk not that. That was something might not. We're doing everyday. I'll sportscenter we were. They let a false narrative persist about our show that People just kinda ran away with they. Let the idiots in the room control the conversation. People clay travis. That's what happened ed. Because they allow those people to direct their course of action. They panic and suddenly. They were very intentional about the things that they were doing in our show. They wanted black faces. They didn't necessarily black voices. And that's how it came off right and so because of that. Ultimately we wound up paying pie a we wound up paying the price. I mean sure. There were things that mike and i could have done differently on sportscenter with just getting our show together but we never got that time because they were too busy responding to conservative media. And so when you ever you keep doing that. That's how you wind up sloppy situations and it shouldn't have taken a george floyd for espn to allow commentators. If people like dan in me and you mean to discuss racism in this country that doesn't mean that we would discuss it every day or every hour but just within the context that seems appropriate which is all any of us asked to do. Nobody came to work every day. Espn is said you know what want to talk about today immigration reform. Nobody so it's like the but they were. They were responding to people who didn't even watch. Espn and so now. This is just a another form of that problem. Where they have allowed a situation between these two women two completely fester. Nobody stepped in said. Okay we need to. We need to figure out something. And now they have a massive problem on their hand because they have been exposed in a way. That espn is not comfortable being expelled. And i say this quickly before we continue the discussion watching rachel imperfect richard jefferson addressed as very uncomfortably on the job is something that unfortunately. Espn also has a track record of is like acknowledging but not really addressing they. They couldn't put her on tv yesterday. In howard not saying anything and to me you gonna put her on there and allow her to really dive into it or you. Just leave it alone. And what wound up happening. Is you put everybody. That was on air in a bad position. And now you have the optics of having kids at perkins and richard jefferson. Having to defend rachel nichols over situation. Dated 'cause create. It had nothing to do with so either. Have her address the camera by herself and leave the other two out of it or just. Don't even do it because what people saw yesterday could not possibly have covered many of the things that have come up in the last three days. So i love that point because that's one of those things i'm watching like. Oh i know exactly what happened right. We have to address right. Because you can't yes not talk about it so but we're not going to do a whole show with the one second. All right rachel. Talk but wait a second if rachel talks and you've got to black people there and they don't get the chime in how gonna look well. Let's get a black woman. How about maria no. Yeah can't that. And then even i remember the day after those tweets i about trump exploded ed or the day of the conversations. All that went on yes. I'm one of those people. Who saving for the memoir. Everything everything the real you know. They they would be trysted at all like the entire world is talking about this right now and they wanted no parts of it and we made a couple of jokes about it but that was like it is so to see it. Go full circle into this. I was like oh well. This is interesting. Also also interesting. Because i want to get in point by point to the things that i found as interesting is the thing the soap opera elements that got everyone clocking. But when you guys talk about reacting to the reaction. It's not just that it's reacting to the reaction from people who don't look like us. It's not reacting to the reaction because you've got leadership that is a bunch of women. People are listening to or a bunch of black people are listening to. It's not just reaction the reaction it's those decisions are not being made by either. The people in the center of the controversy or the people above them of color might have a different perspective because none of those people are in power. Not real not real power. No no i was just gonna say like. Espn has such a pretty team picture. I always thought that. 'cause i mean they have the they have the most diverse unit. Looks when you look at on air. Talent mean espn. They have the power. They have a lot of the jobs. They have the on air talent where it's like if you just watch. Espn for a day. You would think like pretty diverse workplace yet. You start killing some layers bag of like now. You beat the walk around. Espn's campus and looking some of those c. suite offices and it's a completely different picture and of course i mean they do. Have you know people. Who are they do that people of color who are who are there. Espn some of which are in high roles. But i often wonder especially in situations like this. Are those people empowered to actually give the company direction in moments like this. Are you going beyond moments like this. Are they empowered period and they to be decided would be my best answer. Donell i think when it comes to diversity. Espn on air on the talent It is a box that is usually checked off by. Let's get a former athlete. Right and bala. That's not an espn specific problem. Because i saw it working in a fun offices in the nba. If you're white you can be anything you want in his organization right. Where'd you go to school. Where like you can have any background if you're black. Where'd you play right. That's how they check. The diversely box will just get the former athletes. Those that's what we get a diversity. But then i can have gone to mit. Or i've gone Colombia or whatever and had an academic background in life or even worked somewhere some unrelated industry and come right in here and be those things and so there's that element and then we talk about on the management side. Djamil you and i have a mutual friend I'm not going to say their name. Who is a person who is. Let's just say diverse right. Who had to watch. Who came in and had to watch people less qualified meet and then overtake their status within the company and then when things got hot for the company they gave this person a kind of like a promotion. A nice title. I know exactly what you're talking about. I know i don't want. I don't wanna say their name because i'm at the point isn't about them. The point is that's what it looks verse but is it really diverse. If these people don't have a say and as things are happening ar- aren't consulted and are getting seen people be promoted over them. This is a company where it's all about so when you again. It's not about maria. it's never been about maria because maria is deserving. Maria is awesome at her job but stop acting like this company's a rational company that does things the right way that thought processes demo- outlined at the beginning. Which is hey you know would be really good if we had no. They don't do it like that. They do it when they're pressured and because they're very sensitive to criticism. Are you allowed to publicly. I know. Stephen jackson got dragged on this yesterday. Are you allowed to publicly. Also feel bad for. Rachel nichols while while wincing at the video. I know a lot of people. Want this to be punitive. I know a lot of people are wondering. Paul pierce is let go. Because he's doing something in his home that he's putting on instagram and there are no consequences here except to a producer. A low level producer is the only one who endured consequences. You know rachel. You've worked with rachel. Rachel has been we all like rachel. Rachel you shouldn't hit her with privilege because she worked her ads all over all sorts of obstacles to get to where she is. But are you allowed. I think the public scorn is enough. I think that's unpleasant or not. I'm gonna say this. I'm allowed to do whatever the hell i want. I'm allowed to do whatever the hell i want and djamil i know at the beginning he said you know rachel but you don't know her that well i know rachel that will and i'm of the mind that my friend i stand up for my friends when my friends are are being misunderstood. I stand up for them. It's ab- stances. Got me in trouble at work. It's a stance got me in trouble at home. It's a standard doesn't provide a whole lot of material value for me other than my peace of mind at night that i know when my friends get in trouble i stand up for him just like i stood up for djamil just like i stood up for mark stein I stand up for my friends at a hotel. I'd everybody but but i just had to punctuate means beautiful speech with the lawyers are on your yourself. What are you doing. Saving for the memoir. I think the one of the things that we need to talk about is the concept of privacy right once we get the gotcha though the privacy ally it just vanishes. But here's the thing the and that was. I actually wrote this down because it staggered me that this was the excerpt here. It is not clear why her cameras on. But most people believe that nichols using new technology during a pandemic did not turn it off properly. It was effectively the remote pandemic version of a hot mic incident. Bullshit bullshit. Rachel knows how to use it. It's the tv you app. We've all used it before the pandemic on remotes you. They give you a little iphone not announcing ipad. They usually give you an iphone and a tripod and you hook it up and use it. I found that part fascinating that once we got the gotcha. Everyone stopped caring about men. None of you would have liked this particular thing to happen to you and spread without anybody being concerned about the privacy especially at a company where erin andrews within our hotel room and we went through the whole private video thing. I mean i guess my question to you mean is. Are you asserting that something nefarious happened. Like i mean you're god damn right. I am because i've used the tv app. I've had the conversations with the people in transmissions about like not ready to go yet whatever's as all we can flick it on they have the control to turn it off and on over there. If your ipad is up they have the offline. They can go no book your online. Imagine you're zoom meeting and you left your zoom meeting and is it none. No you don't come back right here. They can do that right. That that exists and because it's not the twenties or whatever. I don't know who came in here. People log in its digital fingerprints everywhere. We can at least narrow down to who was working between those hours. That access to this thing. And i'm sorry. We saw about management and leadership. The moment nothing happens regardless of what rachel says. Rachel could've gone full trump and we would have dealt with that later for rachel but also i'm lining up. Everybody is if someone doesn't step up. You're all getting fired. Everyone who worked at ship because the reality is you cannot. You cannot have violations of privacy happen like that and when that story broke last year. And i'm kind of following up with rachel and other people and i'm realizing oh it's not a priority at all for the company to catch the culprit. They kinda loud. What are we gonna do. We don't know maybe she didn't know how to use it. That's ridiculous it's cowardice and and by the way it's Illegal like forget about morality and all that it's illegal for for that person to do what they did and then to peddle it is another another level and you. You mentioned kayla johnson getting Suspended right that's also a very. Espn move right. Something awful happens. Let me find the smallest person in the room and pick on them. Because that's what. I one is clarification. Because i i know that kayla ultimately played the penalty it to me what made that even worse is not only. Do you find the smallest person but somebody who probably cannot afford to go two weeks without money right but it's just. It's just very alarming. That she would be the sacrifice. The sacrificial lamb in all that thankfully she's moved on to bigger and better but anybody who's worked with kaelin. I've worked with our active pleasure of working with her a few times. She's bright she's talented. She's smart she's a lot of things and you know i know people wondered like will i mean you know this is like there is a level of solidarity especially at black people in this business avenue in that building half and if i hear somebody that is you know talking badly about somebody that i consider to be a friend mama. Let him know. And particularly in this situation so i know a lot of people wanna take aim at caitlyn for relaying the information. I'm like listen. I would probably i would do the same day. I'd be like yo. Keep your head on the swivel. Because this is what i hear for those of you who do not know the report in the new york times kayla johnson. She told hr that she sent the video to taylor. She was suspended for two weeks without pay. The reporting of the new york times is that she then got lesser jobs and eventually left the company. Yep and that's again as a espn move and to be clear. I know someone's just gonna you just said let's line up to twelve people who are available and threaten to fire them all that's different someone in that group who's responsible for this being created what kayla did was what one of many people did a in terms of sharing and be with jamaica said killer with maria on multiple shows is very close with her and hurt. Something that she felt was disparaging about her friend. Absolutely she she going to share it as an and i don't have i assume company policies you're supposed to go to hr in that circumstance. I do understand why a black woman at a place where black women feel like they don't. They're not heard and they can't get ahead. What goes straight to the black woman and say did you see that. That's pretty human. That's the human and human resources. There sometimes human resources about the resources and not about the human. Like the idea. That like i would tell h festival. Kayla wasn't patient zero in terms of like the first person to share it. What it came up. She was one of many second of all the idea that like something would would happen. Let's say something happened here medal art and i would not tell the person that happened to. I would go to asia and let that person live in blissful ignorance. Like i'm sorry again this goes back to. I can't sleep at night like that. I look after my friends. I tell them i would Do exactly what kayla did i mean. Dan was asking about whether or not You know i feel bad for for rachel and i to be perfectly honest. I don't know what i feel. You'd never really ill and Because i think that's okay to to not know you know how you feel and it's not okay. You know this journal in the arguing. I love that that. Of course we're this has got so many layers on it. And i'm pleased to hear you admit that because it's not an easy admission but i think it's the it's the honest. Admission i is is is honest as is i can be like it's like i don't know really how to feel about it is i. Don't have a close enough relationship rachel to be out here. Defendant her say exactly was in her care. Even though again having known her for as many years as i have And having had by good conversations with her that's the extent of it so i'm not gonna sit here and pretend like rachel and i are best is like we are right in so Even though i would consider. I wouldn't consider as friends. I would consider as friendly in so not to the point where i feel like i need to put on a cake to be quite honest but is like no. I don't really feel that need the need to do that now. Do i feel like she should be stoned to death in burg at the stake as many people on twitter in social media. Want her to be now. I mean i. I don't think that's really the appropriate response in emitted in many situations in cases but ultimately i guess as somebody who spent twelve years being black woman in this industry Knowing the inside of what this feels like every job. I with the exception of maybe one or two jobs. I've had his business over the course of my twenty year career. There were a lot of jobs that people said. I didn't deserve to have or i'm only there. I remember when i became a sports columnist In orlando. When i was twenty eight years old i was the only black female sports columnists in north america notice. I didn't say america. I was the only black feels for mexico. Yes mexico. canada will was not. I'm going to go south america too. Yes i think. It's fair to say but Based off a survey that was done i was one out of four hundred and five at a daily newspaper and the number of people when i got the job and keep in mind. I was just the third columnist at the sentinel. Wasn't i hear. I wasn't even the second chair. I two days a week. That i wrote in one of those days by column appeared on the inside of the sports section. Not even out for it. So this is truly a column writing an entry level position and i i don't wanna make it seem like it was some angry mob but of course i heard all the whispers of people telling me i didn't deserve it and i might. Wow i can't even be third like really out desert that you know it was saying when i got to. Espn when i the jump from orlando to espn. I remember a very untimely story. Came out about my salary. Sounds familiar right. That said that It was reported that i was making two hundred thousand dollars a year. Moving to the orlando cigna. Which i wasn't by the way and suddenly it was not only. Does she not deserve this job. They play this f. a. What like that was what it was it so i have gone through this so many times in my career. Sportscenter isn't as like all the time and so at some point there's an exhaustion level for me as a black woman that wise it every job that we get. We don't deserve if they loved us that much. Wouldn't you see more of us clearly clearly. We're not what's industry because it's not all a lot of us out here mani says it all the time amman. He's gonna plenty tough as being. An opinionated won't stand down black man having opinions throughout sports. He says it all the time. Jamal had it harder than any of us by leaps and bounds. What she had to overcome. And i wanna talk to her about the layers of this story that involve gender and race. But i also need to point out because we're live on youtube and jim mean and have a sense of humor and We have not done enough laughing around. This stu gods had to move his car and so eating. God says every response to conversations like this is. It's an important conversation. And i'm glad we're having it. It looks the optics of this are white. Privilege in tahoe. Just left the conversation entirely board by everything that amine and jamal. We're talking about and here. He is he is back black. I don't get to lead the conversation smell. How is this story different if it's not a white woman and a black woman if it's two men being ambitious if it's not the racial element. How is the story different. Well i think that. I wonder granted the other salacious element we have to include is the fact that is recorded conversation so i think that is ultimately had what has amp this up to another level. The with the racist if they were. You know different or transpose. This were to black women or just to two white women Then i think that some of this might have been reported but not nearly with the degree. I don't think it would reaches rises to the level that we've seen it in all by the way and that was something that i hinted to in my kind of initial comments is that this is quite common in our industry. Right is that people get promised things in contracts all of us will be at the negotiating table. We do our damndest to get every dollar every set every assignment. That is what we do. People are very territorial over what they cover eight often in creates conflicts with others. And you know. Sometimes there have been situations that i've known about it. Espn that have occurred. That have reached this level. Where you have to people not talking to each other where you have People having to pick sides where you have to have sit downs. Like i have witnesses midday times at espn so as ugly as this may seem on the outside to people. It's really common. And i'll say this like that. That part i think is also part of the reaction particularly that you may have seen from from women from black women in particular is that we do often hear from white women that will say like. Oh you know. We're all year for diversity moving up in all this and then when it becomes a competitive situation all election those out the window right in yet. You're allowed to be competitive in your job. But i do think there's a way that you can be competitive without having to crush everything in your path and so i think that there is. There was definitely a lot of this situation sprung for a lot of those conversations as well so that that's the question. I want to ask everybody right because everyone you know pointed out to all. Yeah because she saw her as a threat or whatever. That's that that shows you. How not down for the cost. She is rachel in this. What they're referring to. And i said well. This isn't the stereotypical generic white person. It's angry that black person got a great position. That white person had no chance of getting right a lot of people. I can't believe djamil hill got well. Was it ever down a you and jamal hill. Know than shut up like it has to do with you. In this case it was something that was actually taken away from rachel based on in in that conversation her contract she was promised as you get. There's not a person in this industry who has something taken out of their contract. Who isn't gonna fight for that shit. Then give a damn about supporting anything like it's the in in many ways it's the liam neeson's thing right. Yes women should absolutely get paid more. Should we take some of the money that we promise you. Hell no. that's my money but you guys get figure it out somewhere else. That is the most natural human reaction. And what rachel said had nothing to do with like maria is not capable. Maria is not qualified. It's just you're not gonna take something that's mine right out of all the jobs here all the jobs that are held by white men you go pick mine after all the shit. I went to relevant to a lot of shit to at that company. That i'm not going to go into discuss. And that brings me to the point. That i want to get about when we talk about privacy which is private and i wrote this down because i wanted to get it right. Privacy is also about the freedom to express a sentiment without worrying about filtering or messaging right the conversations that we have in private not to say that they are can be wildly. Different like hi. I love potato chips and then in private got potato chips to the worst thing ever right. But when i speak publicly if i am a sponsor a endorser of lay's potato chips i say to my favorite snack and then behind closed doors. I might say you know what. Sometimes the salt irritates me. Or you know what. Sometimes i just can't have another potential radic Couple weeks off. I could never say that publicly because that would ruin kind of the endorsement. also people don't have room for nuance in that so when we speak publicly it's curated on some level. What does he privately. I might exaggerate. I might take away some of the nuance because you get it. The the receiver in this case is someone. I'm talking to 'em in private. They get what i'm trying to say. So people are taking what rachel said. Which by the way if you listen to it and read through it. She never throws maria under the bus in any way she's just talking about her particular territory her real estate. That's been taken away from her. And this is one of the things i mean. Stephen talks about white conservative. Male trump voters out in power at. Espn who giving a hard time. But the one thing. I want to say here is so. There's this quote from rachel afterwards. The writer says multiple black. Espn employees said. They told one another. After hearing the competition that confirmed the suspicions that outwardly. Supportive white people talk differently behind. Closed doors that nothing to do a rachel. That has nothing to do a rachel. Like if you have this belief about which i believe yes there are white people who are like i love it. These people right. But that's not what rachel did. And that's not what rachel's about. And i guess that comes into me quote unquote being a cape in the scenario. I know her. And i'm not going to let people say that's the type of person she is but it will come back to that. That ten of privacy is that i don't have to worry about wording at just the right way. I was stunned stunned that everyone. Once they had the gotcha didn't care about the privacy at all jessica got here. I just think like to a means i point. This is part of the problem that is baked into the system that you have to really talented women competing for one spot. There can only be one spot for talented woman on this broadcast. We let the men have numerous spots on the broadcast. But maria and rachel now have to fight for further scraps. Because that's how it works. You can only have one woman on the show There's another element to this. By the way which is the game of thrones of espn particularly in the nba side. The power stroke the moment i- cackled ladies and gentlemen cackled out loud reading. His article was the quote that adrian were now. Naski called someone else. Bad teammate are you. Can i 'cause i don't know i mean you've already done shitting me. This guy ila put someone teammate. For real for real. Do we want to talk about the black careers that he put a foot on because he was threatened by. Do we wanna talk about that. Do you want talk about the news. Breakers would a s of diverse backgrounds who have reports with players. That adrian doesn't have that he saw as threatening because his sources are all front office. People and assistant coach is trying to move up and maybe a video coordinator is trying to get a better job somewhere else. But he can't talk to lebron and he gets to Chris paul or damian lillard some of these other guys. He doesn't have that report with them so what he does. Is he steps on him. And he stepping and beyond that particular angle. He stepped on a lot of people over there steps on a lot of people over there. Right when you see a byline that says as reported by adrian will fill in the blank. That's the old. Yeah put my name one and put it out there. Well he's running everything over there. He is running most of basketball of there and so but to be to be fair. Be obeyed if we don't will go there and that's part of my concern is like you know Their weight i was there. There was a perception that rachel was the same way for her name. Won't people store. No no no no not that part nari that when it came to the nba that she was ruthless. That was the perception but manning men can be ruthless. Jamal you look. I'm not here to criticize it. But i'm just saying perception your that. That's i'm not going to deny what you said. I haven't heard that but again. I'm not plugged in the same way. You know there are a lot of people fighting for space here in the very unique make her like. I'm sure adam schefters the same way. That's the nature of of kind of the job. But the part where someone pipes in. You're a bad teammate. Even a bad teammate. Really really come on man. Give me a break particularly when it comes to the element of race in this if if we're going to inject that race in that give me a break. More to the point jamal as it relates to rachel. How difficult is it going to be for her due to do that job. You are none of these. One thing that ends up sticking to people rachel nichols is more than the defining thing of the moment here that becomes just not multidimensional enough as the poor actress. Rachel nichols from. What is that criminal minds wakes up in the morning and she's like man sports or toxic. Everybody she wakes up in the morning because she's got the same name and people are just burying her. How difficult is it going to be in this sport to have this attached to you. If people don't want to do the nuance on this one. I would imagine it would be difficult. I mean i guess if you're a player then you have to weigh her work for the last decades or so against what you just read in. People are going to have their the optics of it looked bad because you have a white woman in a black woman It all that so that's gonna be something that she'll have to deal with but also in the building i mean there are. I'm sure there's a lot of her black colleagues who are suspicious right now. Who are wondering right now about who. She is as a person even if they've worked with her they. They're wondering like oh. Does she have something different to say. You know kinda win when they're not around And so. I think that's part of it and also what becomes of her career. Espn because i have seen them in the past. When people get into controversial situations they may not out outwardly. Punish them whereas there may not be a suspension. There may not be You know something that happens. That's visible but slowly they diminish them. They just don't want to be there. Have you seen that really high kind of thing that. I'm sure no-one no-one on this. That sounds three dollars. Lose part of your show on. Espn plus we'll hypotheticals. Are they use week of the president of the company in new york in the show starts shrinking. Really take an hour off never to know anything about that. It happens that he is a couple of quotes. Here we've got stand van gundy waiting to get into the show but one of the things one of the things i think i've got a list of six or seven of them here but i have not heard never mind a former. Espn employee an employee while they're at espn. Say if you need to give her more things to do because you're feeling pressure about your crappy longtime record on diversity. Which by the way. I know personally from the female side of it and then later in the quote those same people who are like generally white conservative male trump voters is part of the reason. I've had a hard time at. Espn that feels a little systemic. In a way that you'd probably be at the forefront of the soap opera. Like i mean you've got a voice a star voice in that sport saying like for the gotcha. Why does that gotcha get sort of missed on this one as we go after the two principal stars and were sort of missing. You heard a voice say that the company well privately. I've heard yeah heard of santa live. You know i mean. I i think i probably said it myself abuse exactly but this is this is what we're as we parse out the responsibility of this. This is why. I said ultimately this a lot of this is all management in leadership in reading that story. You're it's hard not to look at this and say what the hell is going on there right and it's not things that are new to any of us because we have either witnessed it experienced it senate during our time at espn. But that's the thing that they have to address that much harder to address and you can't always address it by putting somebody on a show making somebody a hose hiring a former player like it's not gonna be addressed that way because it's baked into the core system of how they do things and that requires a lot of work. Commitment in requires the veins that typically people aren't willing to do they just don't want to say that because it's impolitic to say it is you know they know they can't quote unquote get away with it but the truth is that's why that that's exactly what i tweeted when all this was kinda going down is like i said last summer all those companies putting out these. We care about black people statements. Black lives matter. They all did it last year in the wake of everything that was happening in this country. Don't pay attention to what they say. Pay attention to what they do. That tells the story what she does is important. Jurmala you've just signed. I haven't told people standing gun. You're going to be here in a second. But what do i need to tell people in general about where they can find you because you're doing the most important work of your career here with spotify to empower and give voices two black women because of your pioneering path. So what do people need to know about where to find you. How and thank you for the time you spent with us here today. Always always a pleasure to have a nuance conversation. Then you don't get a lot of those in our business sometimes but no. I'm really proud of this. Developing this network with spotify of four black women about that women using black of female talent behind the scenes. Black women Because i think you know there is a tendency in this country to overlook frankly ignore and dismiss you know the nuance of black women. And it's all great when everybody's running us to save the by the democracy is ac abrahams but then after all that whole yes girl. The black girl magic shit goes away. Then what is left and people don't want to hear from us and then we're not as powerful would not voice unless saving somebody else so this to me is not just my tribute in my love letter to black women but something that i want to be a lasting legacy related to opportunity and empowerment in amplification so We're building this thing up from the ground. And we're of course beginning to canvas and look at talent in figure out You know just kind of the direction we wanna to take things in an year y but feel really good about it and Yeah i mean. I think this is gonna be something really really special. Appreciate the strength and the honesty jamal. Thank you for giving us your time today. I know you're busy. I appreciate it guys.

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