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"Name cycling with character Rydin Watch with rather in two thousand nineteen as they partner e F education fast and canyons throb. Where are we lionel. We will not surprise set every night. We're in a hotel the country Livingston Georgia's hotel in Harrogate pronouncing it wrong a week pinching harrogate somebody last night she well. Let's hear him nice. That's how you say. How are how do you get any EM Agatha. Christie relate stories Chee Computer Madonna Express here well th there's there's only one mystery for Agatha Christie. Tonight is what on Earth is doing here. Tourists the first time I've been doing well championships adding official role so enjoying the the twenty four hours thirty six thousand heavy. It might have been a bit longer. Travel arrangements had gone better yesterday claims I have no official role despite the massive parents favorite painting joining us roll hall tonight. We've also got front. Tom Izzo Hi there it Sam impacting credit. We only four microphone sorry about that front so you won't hear lots of me because I don't have Mike but never mind. I'll listen for once. Say Your Hand Up. If you've got something to say because of vert event tonight we're recording while the men's on the twenty three or four days is going on sublime mosquitoes. I will know the result and what's going on in it. Let's have live updates. There's been a few crashes. Last time I looked there was re- remnants of the breakaway steal away. It's thirty seconds fifty kilometers to go but the pillet on lockdown thirty or forty rod is pretty select group by the time we get into town here and for this sprint is sports rights are Mitchelson Scott for those New Year of Oh. Everybody knows you you know how much attention you pay to the junior road race and the other twenty days and is a more attention paid on the junior road race with so many young writers coming through in the last couple of years. The game certainly changed. There's no way in the world I would've looked paid any attention to a junior men's rice. I was watching the television as as fire scouting because until three or four years ago what you would think at the junior level is a long way removed from where we're at in the world tour and there's been a couple of gentlemen in the last to use that have certainly changed. I think a lot of people's perception of that given point freaks of the sport is the number one example but I did catch it a little bit of the men's Rice but at the end of twenty three race. I've got three Reuters in that race that that will be joining the team makes you so keen to keep it on the final but yeah I think we're paying more and more attention to the junior level ranks. Would you seventeen or eighteen year old him for testing if you thought that they could maybe we'll do whatever post look in the past because we had had had a development team and the national team before was very very connected with the team. There's probably no NEETU because if there was any talented young strands coming through we knew who they were Wrestlemania from the track program and there is some very very talented goes in the track team and the mom who often excuse Olympics we all locked have your tone but I think think because we haven't got a development team. I think we're starting to look a little bit younger and I think it's good to have relationships with their special. Coming through you find those guys properties. What is nineteen twenty year olds they have. They've already got more offers and there's more competition for them than the ones was even if they're struggling early two or three teams who approaching one hundred percent in one hundred percent. I think it was contacting juniors not that long ago. I think even two or three. Ucla you could wait till eleven ear and Cherry pick the best the best based on the two thousand three hundred eleven hundred everything with the with the raw democracy when it's when one table to start looking earlier actually forces other teams into doing the same thing we we we see the same thing happening with with countries don't we Columbia our Ecuador Ni- and then agents will go in and they will sign up riders on their boots is not having to regents and manages are signing up writers stimulating the market themselves and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that as as one team does well them eighteen nineteen year old other the team feel they have to. I think it is I think everyone needs to South American car on a young one and the obviously producing a lot of talent out of South America especially the combines the carapace from from Ecuador but it's one part of the puzzle becoming professional cyclist and even get the Americans have produced some great athletes in Tom. Trolling ranks over the last couple of years but when was the last American really did something coming here in Europe. It's been a long term. That's been on me I think. What are some of the young Americans have found it difficult to assume like living Europe? I think I think the difference those because I still think America's and it's that between six and ten hours to get home and it's it's quite easy to get hunger. I think as far as the Anglos and from the Southern Hemisphere we want to he he for the season and I think it's been a mindset where we'd been benefited from that. Y- The heat for job to rice in Europe and the Colombians as well as I think they can go home especially if you come from the altitude areas they can go home when they and we have a season there so they can go home whenever they want in the season as if I season whether season and then God middle of the season spring autumn wherever that may be doing out free altitude campsite and try them familiar roads and I think that's also when Europe is so causes or went home is so close easy to get away from. I think that also changes how people look at what's happening here in Europe. I'd like views on there was a controversy I mean I had some disagreements with Daniel but in told the France two years ago but because the all school view was that when you were a young rider twenty like under twenty two hundred twenty three or probably under twenty five or twenty six it's too early to launch into the into the the big bath with the big boys and go for a major stage race and do you have the impression that Eggen Venar founder pool or Remco Pool. Now are kind of changing the rules. I mean are destroying this kind of certainties. The old school a cyclist cycling fans or cycling managers had doing the picture is changing a little bit yeah definitely and even myself question. I've the last couple of months oh being very very cautious over the last few years the not pushing young rod too much when they turned professional but still thinking back to Portugal even pool venables different story altogether but those guys they are the best of the best and I think he can treat those guys a little bit different but if you told me the start of the season Yeah Portugal was in two hundred thirteenth or something to it under and in September you stood Walter said it very very meteoric. Roy's in at a very very high level he won eleven Sheba. Levy is a rice of under twenty. Three's yes it's a very little race but finished third in the world and to finish off the wall to the way he did our coaching our coaches doing something different. I doing something different than we're doing. Just freaks ought to know what the answer is but it certainly has change the way I think we've looked at young boys. Maybe maybe their development. Maybe we can be a little bit more not pushy but a little bit less protective of some of the younger guys in the future is aristocrat someone who comes to that level eighteen nineteen and then gets into the professional system whether in a trade team more effectively living in racing racing like a pro but still being a teenager. DC The effects of kind of burnout or the effects of somebody getting twenty five twenty six years of age and everybody down six seven years at a pro and also do you think it will impinge on a opportunities for the light bloomers. Somebody who comes through and shows at twenty two twenty three sorry might be at a disadvantage of three or four years already yeah. I think what it does change for. The light is people certainly not looking for talented. twenty-three role to modify motive missed the boat and I think that's auto mistake. I think Gore's do develop a different rights and a lot of younger. I tried to tell them Ramon Duncan pace off to to the ice brothers at Dunkin self to these courses because I this at twenty one twenty two. Just do it just progress at your own speed. I think that ethos is going to stay the same but I think the behalf and the management sort of things I think you can probably throw those young talent especially the really talented ones I think into the depend a little bit more to see see how it goes single swim. The the main thing is don't let them in the pool on. I think it's good to give them a lot of exposure to deliver isis and then it's case by case if they're ready to handle it at the fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling with character ride. 'em Watch with rather in two thousand nineteen. AH THEY PARTNER E F education fast and canyons thrive play very much to our title sponsor RAF very grateful as ever to them for their support four and well guys all the cycling chance fine as is fair and good but we have to talk by high tea and Betty's aw we were we were treated to the full experience and it was very interesting to see the reaction Francois Francois's an old Honda thing high tea and Daniel never seen Daniel so uncomfortable high tea and what was it high tea and Lucy afternoon tape. What's the difference. This is it not just the same raw often t. we had a little glass of champagne and I t. h. And then the full selection of little sandwiches and scones and or scones or scones Daniels I of his depth was not mentioned in some macaroni and I find it very confusing L. Fink. I'm reeling if say if it'd be a similar kind of culinary cultural experience in Italy you he would've been choosing for eight in the currents in the wrong ninety as you said not nice. That was your verdict on. It wasn't that I was being polite. I was it was it was nice. Yeah I mean that's how it go off until I'm sure that was the gold standard. It seemed like the best when you've ever heard it was not enjoy it I did. I did the first time I've had sermon with macaroni medical but it is my first as well so it was a very sociable experience duty. Pick anything anything that might transfer race food. Stick them in music series. Let's be against most of the things that we especially that body. You showed me this perfect coffee cream. We need to get science sport to do a clotted cream. GEL CLOT CREAM MINNESOTA's only certain stages this year of major races and Dora when the hailstones came are the Jiro the more thorough the stage. I think Ah Coffee Creamer Deng guys a lot good. Some of them were written. Were too skinny for the you know. The reason why Richard Richard More survives a landslide was you know as a kid the cones and cream. I'm basically made made of coffee cream but a big thank you to Donna bettys for inviting really was it was it was a treat wasn't it was a it was a very well. I'm still I'm fits. Nearly six o'clock and I'm still hungry busiest place in Harrogate night isn't it. Betty's certainly is yeah and we met Lizzie banks afterwards the Great Britain writer who gave me some very interesting interesting gossip aren't we all share probably shouldn't but apparently F. Education I and any answer both saying women's teams. Apparently that is the case it really partly that's especially for any else because I think there's been some of the best women in the world over the last decade been British and it hasn't made a development team on their behalf and it'd be great to see one of the powerhouses. The sport have a have a women's team and I don't want to tell tales but you're right and was there as well at the next table. 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