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Caught Offside: Coronavirus update, UCL recap and more

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Caught Offside: Coronavirus update, UCL recap and more

"Caught offside with every gumming finch. Jj Davani yes offside upper west side of Manhattan and Jay J. Defend what's up brother. What's all I mean? We're on the precipice of the collapse of world sport or the suspension. At least yeah these are I would say that. The last twenty four hours Like as a sports fan as a global citizen but like as a sports fan it's been the most surreal Twenty four hour period that I've ever seen in the history of sports from I. Guess if you took it from the start of Manchester City and Arsenal choosing to postpone their game because arsenal players were in quarantine And you took that all the way through the message last night from the NBA that their season was being suspended In between you have reports that the answer AA will be banning fans from attending March madness. Which is a thing that I can't even wrap my mind around because fans and March madness just so inextricably linked with one another that. I can't even separate the two like picture. The final four without people what this is and then you wake up this morning. We're now in a new cycle where it's all domino's are now falling And I every minute every hour every second at things I it seems that things are just updating at a speed. That is it's making your head Spin Yeah. I I lived through the foot and mouth incident in in Europe in two thousand and one and I remember sporting being cancel. Large gatherings cancelled all those things but it was never on a scale like this. Nothing close to this no panic. Because of its effect on the economy to an on also was it was to do livestock. And in a rural country garden that matter but this is this affects across the board. In a way I've never experienced. It feels like we're living on a movie like this watching television last night and being on the Internet just none of the seem real. It's very surreal. Yeah and you want to take this podcast. Two Years Zero. No everything's over. We don't talk about football now. We only talk about the Corona Virus. Low we can. We can take people behind the scenes. You and I we talk before every show we talk about what we WanNa do and you know to me. This is now like the news is just coming at such a speed and the stories that are coming out. We haven't even gotten to the most The most recent news developments pretending to soccer in that. Mls has been suspended Jeff Carlyle where we're recording this at like twelve ten right now eastern time twenty seconds ago. Jeff Carlisle just tweeted. That CONCACAF champions has been suspended all upcoming. Us Men's national team and US Women's national team friendly's have been suspended Still waiting word on what's going to happen with the Premier League Lollygag is taking a temporary hiatus. Real Madrid are in quarantine after a member of the Real Madrid basketball team tested positive for corona virus. At the team's facility sky reporting that Lester players show symptoms. Leicester boss Brendan Rodgers. A few of his squad have shown symptoms of the corona virus. There scheduled face Wofford at vicarage road on Saturday in the Premier League reports of. I'm almost hesitant to do this. But Guillaume ballet is a journalist. I think that is generally trusted. He has a tweet from an hour ago. Citing lucky in France The tweet reads in the UEFA meeting on Tuesday. It will be confirmed that the Champions League and Europa League will be suspended he writes in parentheses which is a sentiment that I would echo. Why wait till Tuesday? Then he adds saying plus the Euros will be moved to twenty twenty one. These are these are just like unbelievable events unfolding at light speed right. Let's can I just read to you? If his statement today are of course in the light of the ongoing developments in the spread of covert nineteen across Europe and the changing analysis of the World Health Organization you F S Today invited representatives of it's fifty five member associations together with the Boards of the European Club Association on the European Leagues Anna Representative of fief pro to attend meetings by videoconference thankfully on Tuesday seventy the march to discuss European football's response to the outbreak discussions with include all domestic and European competitions including away. Your twenty twenty further communication will be made fun does meetings so that kind suggests that everything's on the table. Yeah and you know what I've been. I've it's funny since this whole thing has started. I feel like I've I've kind of like see-sawed there have been days when I was like you know what I'm not sure. How big a deal this is and then there were other days where you turn on the news and you think. Oh my God this is truly terrifying and you kind of go back and forth because we were not educated in this matter but I think now I think we all need to kind of move ourselves into the corner of. We don't know anything and we have to trust the people and the experts that do know like I was thinking about this. Jj because I've heard you've I bet you've come in contact with a lot of similar kind of people and I'm not. I'm not trying to blame them. But I've come in contact with a lot of people who are freaking out at the freak out people who are kind of the mindset of. This is nothing wires all this happening. The economy is in the tank. We are losing billions of dollars for a thing. That's not that this is a non story and we're in freak out mode and I think now I I've been trying to like because I know we're going to do a soccer podcast so I've been trying to liken that to like what's a soccer analogy for what happened right now and I was thinking. Let's say you're walking down the street yesterday after Liverpool lose that game and you're wearing Liverpool Jersey and a guy comes up to you and says you're collapse gotta be fired and say that guy. Oh okay are you like a Liverpool Fan. No well are you a former front office executive who knows how these things no well. Are you like somebody who have you played? Soccer do have any soccer background. No not really but I heard were playing well so I started paying attention a couple of weeks ago and since I started paying attention they really have not been doing well. He should be fired. Well you don't know what you're talking about. Your opinion means nothing to me. So like all these guys that you work with and friends that you come in contact with the you're just having casual conversations with that suddenly want to act like they're experts on the corona virus. You don't know anything. Let's all just shut up and allow the experts to do their job and just do what they tell us to do on that note get onto CDC dot org for all corona virus information. How to protect yourself what it is on. What's happening daily updates? You can log on at any time. You can also see it on twitter. Don't be heating Jim in levittown right. Who's been re tweeted by your friend? Book and don't allow your opinion to be swayed by that guy because he doesn't know he doesn't know by the way there are some pundits in the media. Who are talking about this thing. A certain branches in the media who don't know what they're talking about either the World Health Organization this CDC. That's those are the people you need to be listening to Right. Now onto your GP. Who knows your case ending underlying conditions? You may or may not have and ultimately like Oh. I think we need to start using some common sense in how we're perceiving the seriousness of this in that like we can all say in a moment of a public health crisis you know. Oh it money doesn't matter. We need to put the the well being of the people I and that is true but let's also remember in a capitalistic society. Money does matter the NBA is not suspending their season for nothing the NC Double A. They have two huge events here. The College Football playoff and March madness. They are not banning fans from attending their event over nothing. They are taking advice from people who know what they're talking about like I feel like we've kind of crossed the threshold where people need to just like understand. Like if you're somebody who's still upset that you can't go to watch one of your teams playing person right now. Like tough were where in a moment? Where like yeah? Your life is going to be inconvenienced by this until we get a handle on. What's going on so like you know. Hopefully you know I don't WanNa see tweets from people. Who are you know season ticket HOLDERS FOR NASHVILLE OR ATLANTA? Or whatever saying that. They're upset that their season has been put on hold and they can't go watch their team play Because they don't think this is a big deal. I think it's that people wake up and understand. This is unlike anything we've really dealt with in our lives but it's not just sports fans though there's people out there who have embraced and this is a conversation for another day but they've embraced this going to post truth society. We're in right now where you can argue facts right. Don't do that not what race. This will not discriminate. I think the World Health Organization in the CDC. And I'm not trying to be like flippant or making a joke. I honestly view those as apolitical organizations. Like they're to me. Those are not organizations. That really have a political affiliation. So if they're telling me if they're telling US something like it's it's what I am going to trust and I think that that's a safe way to handle this. These just do it. Yeah I mean this is just like we haven't even mentioned some of the other Danielle origine of Juventus tested for the corner virus yesterday. So event is has been in quarantine. I mean if you if you get a chance to read some of the reporting coming out of Italy right now. Where the places in lockdown some you know large parts of it are in quarantine like for example. The town of of Parma is. Just you know you're not supposed to your the order are the direction is not to go outside the city walls disdain. Your home to to work from home to all those things and you hear about elderly people who are dying and they are loved. Ones can't go near them. Because of the danger of contracting and spreading this thing imagine the horror. This isn't a joke. It's just not a joke and you've got to listen to the experts. 'cause you don't know anything so from a sporting perspective. I just am wondering because like we said. The news is just happening so quickly. Like where is this heading like now? These leagues the premier. Li like we said up at this point. We haven't heard much I saw only Gomersall Shire. Yesterday says the Manchester United would support the suspension of the primarily to combat the spread of the virus. Like let's all be honest with one another. That's that's where we're headed. Yeah I mean Britain's response. Sporting response has been strange. I would say the Cheltenham Horse Horse Racing Festival which brings in hundreds of thousands of people across. I don't know how many days ten days probably more than that considering all the Ansari Events and things that go on surrounding it that went ahead that you got the feeling with Shetland they just snuck it in before people said. Okay we gotTa Start Shutting things down I and it was strange to me. Three and a half thousand Athletico Madrid fans travelling to Liverpool last night dot is dot is dangerous. I'm sorry right now. Large mass congregations of people an even a twenty two men field. It was funny at the weekend there was no handshakes in the premier league. Yet people jumping all over each other for celebrations in close contact and tackling crashing into each other. I mean your clock is and we're going to. We will talk about some of the Champions League deliver. We are because I will make sure that we do. I know but like can KLOPP. Jj in the last week. Like I feel like. He's becoming a man on hinged his press conferences where he's been asked about his generally his thoughts on this virus and he's now snapping at journalists and. I understand his point. I think I kind of agree with him. But he's snapping journalists saying who am I to be answering that question I don't know why do you come to me is in over his last point to the pre the pre Madrid one not the weekend the Madrid one was. Why do you think you are outside of this? We're doing we're doing sport. I you've traveled to do that like he's trying to just say we're all part of this right. There is no a Liverpool issue. It's not like should we? Should we ban soccer to stop this thing? Don't go to the pub. No stop going to the theater but movies might be a bad idea for you. Jill like this isn't panic. This is what we're being told by. The people who know almost and the spread of this is really scary. I saw the video yesterday of walking through the tunnel To come out onto the field before the game and a couple of fans put their hands out to him. A high five any snaps. Thank you can read his lips. I can't say what he said on this show but like you. He's he's he's had it with all of that. He is quite. He is quite compelling when he's had enough of people you know because he is the jovial German the laughing white T. He is a charisma until he isn't and his face can quickly go from Jovial. German to the eyes bulge is a very intense. Look Yeah I remember. Last season was it. Someone asked him about him. I think was the draw with Leicester. The draw with West Ham. They asked him about his team and he was clearly frustrated in the moment. And he said you think this is playstation. You think we can just create chances score goals just like that. You know that we weren't trying. Yeah Yeah don't cross him So that is up to this moment. That is kind of where we're at. I think you know. Even though announcements haven't been made pertaining to all leagues I think we're kind of of the mindset right now that this game and sports in general really are just sort of being placed on hold. There is like a collective pause button. That's being hit until we can kind of get a grasp on an ability to contain the spread of this virus and it is worth noting to that. There have been like. I'm not an expert but I listened to people that are listening to the daily today. They're talking about how China and South Korea have made incredible strides and they were pointed out by the World Health Organization yesterday for the Strides. They made in containing the so. Hopefully other countries will begin to follow suit And no that's why. Large gatherings are being stopped. The you know that's why these prominent sporting events are being halted. Because that's like step one is to stop the spread of this in large groups So that's that's pretty much where where we're at right now with this. Do you WanNa talk about other things? Yeah I WANNA talk about the football because this might be the last football we get to talk about actual games. We get to talk about for a while. So let's make a good one friend. I know it's very weird to talk about. Games that are taking place in competitions. May Not not be not right. Not to be flippant but I want to give everyone a window into Andrew's mind right now right right now. Andrew is Kilian Murphy Waking Up in the hospital in twenty eight days later wandering across London Bridge Outta desolate empty landscape. That's where he is. I've never seen that movie. You need to click into podcasts. Mold now boyle we're talking football. I I wish you had the the Pale haunting eyes of Kilian Murphy. At least give me something something nice to stare at all right well. Let's talk about the champions. They were going to do our best. All right. We're GONNA put on. We're GONNA put on a brave face. We're GONNA do this. We'll talk soccer. I do wonder how many people really care right now. Believe me the everybody was looking forward to this podcast last night. Things have gone then. Everything happened yet. Things have gotten worse. But what what do you want us to do? I don't know I don't I don't know what I WANNA do. I WANNA talk football. I WanNa Talk Ball. Let's start with what was really the standout match from the last several days. Really and that is Liverpool What an incredible game against Athletico Madrid the second leg liver. Pour out of the Champions League in the round of sixteen. Their defense of their European crown will go no further There's a lot of angles to get from their game specifically. I guess we'll start trying to which I want to start with. I guess we'll start with the one that is kind of like really was making waves. And that is the the goalkeeper issue for Liverpool because it seemed like immediately the game ended and the blame game began and a hundred percent of the blame was being pointed at one man and that was Adrian. Well it's not all about Adrian put. His mistake was a fundamental shift in the game. I'm was a mistake on a night like that that you can't make no. There was other key moments for me nor failing to make contact with good chance loss in the first half the second half. I think Robertson hitting the crossbar. No chance was the first half Robinson hitting the crowd I don't know how Robertson didn't score That was a big chance. I will say the defender went. When I watched the second angle there's defender Khanna puts off a little bit so actress and can't get quite as clean ahead on it. As as obviously would have panned quite amulet downwards which but he's from such close range yet you expected in that too bullish and believe it yeah But look it was. It was a key moment in a game that was finely poised Liverpool. Didn't have the away goal. Of course it matters and there was an instant momentum. Shift at that moment. Pat Nevin was on the BBC last night. Talking life from Anfield about what that moment. Adrian's flobbed clearance meant for the game little control of that but at Dame just didn't we've all been in before when everyone jogging. Look in vain day you load and unexpected goal and suddenly looks to Yaas Lore looks exhausted suddenly the game plan Joe Trillo as well get how many senior center half backup to Santa. Nfo and then you know. It's a complete pining. Why was surprised that in that situation as big ten didn't have eight NATO non. Stop that they didn't have any bow. Oem to go. They made a couple of changes. Bomb just never harmed the new yourself. When you've got to perfecting minute Champions League you expected to have at least a bank drive. There was nothing that was new energy. I'm not blaming anyone except the probably just a Bagel scored true the minute that that goal went in that was it Liverpool. Just couldn't pick it up again and I think Andrew that's as good a performance over the ninety at least as Liverpool have poured in since Lester on Stevens Day on boxing day that that's their best most complete performance. There were absolutely added bought for all the chances they had. I mean thirty four shots. Eleven on target two goals wasn't enough and has pointed out the for me. No gold needed to happen. Within the ninety minutes the second goal have to happen within the ninety minutes yeah because Liverpool out on their feet. I tweeted last night. I enjoyed that game immensely absolutely immensely and I can't be you know totally upset. I am disappointed where the champ is but I thought that was a brilliant performance from Liverpool and they just they just thought moment from Adrienne he kicks it out he can't it's terrible terrible Malta. Terrible moment he can't readjust his footing. Quick enough on the next thing the balls in the back of the next steps up off the turf you can make one mistake. But you can't compound that mistake with another but Andrew. It was in the wires. It was in the mail it was in the Post. The only had a bad game against Burma. There's no was. He looked on shore of himself against Borth and in the in the NFL Cup. In the second half yeah the ethical too in the second half he makes a brilliant save from the feet of one of the electrical Madrid players. After because he's he's made a mess of an easy shot from Zhao Felix. So he was always liable to do this right the only he is to blame like if we are going to talk about why this happened. He his name is certainly on. That list might even be top of the list. The only reason that I struggle to like shiny entirety of the spotlight on him for why this went wrong. I mean through ninety minutes. He held he. Did you can say he had a mistake. You're there but like he did hold Athletico Madrid to a clean sheet over the day day. Get in make. He didn't make a truly crippling. I mistake until the ninety seven I know but it led to go hardly troubled Liverpool goal for most of the ninety. Let's be perfectly honest. They had A. They had a couple of chances. But chances you would expect team of their quality to have but like when team takes thirty four shots Like Liverpool did I mean. How many shots did they have in the ninety minutes without with only getting I go I'm not. I'm not even sure. What ninety probably like thirty shots or so and you can make the argument like The expected goals was two point. Nine to one point one Thoughts from Mike. Kelly's graph in favor of liver favor of Liverpool Lau. Yeah that's a but as he said sometimes football keep her as a great game. One team takes a few grit shots. The better team doesn't win and you know that. Is this game you constantly say to me. There is no deserve in football and soccer none. Now there's only the score there's only the score And I think you're going to probably did with what Mr Clapper to say. So let's talk about that your clock by his own. Admittance has turned into a very. How did he put it in a very subpar loser? He's a sore loser and he said he said in every interview. Yeah he's now. He's not running from that reputation he is owning it. I am the sore loser and I'm GonNa Complain. After my team loses games and that was certainly on full display After Liverpool lost yesterday. This is what he said about Diego simeone Athletico Madrid side and the way they chose to play. He said I don't understand what the quality they have. The football they play. They play proper football but they stand deep and have counterattacks. We accepted of course. But it doesn't feel right tonight. I realize I am a really bad loser. Especially when the boys put such an effort and against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four again I don't think it needs to be said it's heat of the moment. He certainly feeding things after the game but it was kind of the same point he made after the first leg. I would ask. What were you expecting? Diego Simoni is living rent-free in your head right now because after the first leg. He Pulls Saudi-omani at Halftime. Because he's afraid that some some player for Madrid's going to force him into like a fake yellow after this game he's complaining about like on. My only thing is like dig. Diego Simione is not some guy who's just trying to scrape by by the skin of his teeth and win here like this is a man who has one Lolita in an era dominated by Rao Madrid and Barcelona. He's gotten to within like centimeters of two Champions League victories You know this is a pretty accomplished manager. Who I don't. It just is weird to me to hear him spoken to like. He's some kind of like like newby who doesn't understand the way the game supposed to be played. Yeah he is a CV. Anna resume based on this type of football. That is you see. I mean maybe this is about I was gonNA save better than your can collapse. Although cloud having the champion the Champions League last year probably puts him ahead of Simeoni but it shouldn't be a better or it's it's it's somewhere along the line in football By the way what did used to be almost like a apart from conceding two goals used to be almost a classic Italian way of playing away from home. And that's a league. That Simoni cut his teeth and plan for plan for those teams that he did in Italy for Inter Milan etcetera. So he's honed. He's turned defending good defending into an art. And I'm going to give him some praise here. Look I don't love the way he plays. I wouldn't across to play like that but you know it's it's winning football and it was winning football last night. Look at the substitution. He made he wasn't afraid to pull Diego Kosta. He puts in urinate. Who scores two goals he puts in Joe Felix who has a hand in the setting of the of the crucial goal for urine tests. I he brings a Murata who scored one of his own and set up another one on when legs were tired when mines were failing to stay focused. Simoni had the changes made that punished Liverpool. And that's where I give him credit I simione his response was interesting. We played to win with our weapons to win respecting our identity respecting two characteristics of the players exploiting the defects of the opponents. That's how we play if someone wants to ask me is. Savage who failed English primarily savage better defender Than Virgil Van Dyke. No but look at the mazing job that money people pointed out last night. That's only has done with those players to make them better too that's organization. There is merit to this kind of play. I think some Yanni's response to To Club and the rest of your pin football. Who Don't like the way he plays goes something like this. You don't want me anymore with that breaks my heart but it's too bad because you don't love me but you will respect me. Hey It's Tony and Christopher it's true though it really is true and I think he is respected. I think he's viewed by. Everyone is one of the best managers in football tonight. Yeah and again This used to be the pattern for European football. A lot of these games were tense. Edgy Defensive Affairs where mistakes and the the tiniest margin for error were exploited by the really good sites. You vent this. I can think of the past in particular doing that on here. We are again. He is like a in a ways. Like a footballing hipster. He's what old what was old new. Yeah I just find it annoying from klopp a because this isn't the first time he's done this But really because like this idea of all. I'm sorry you're in that your opponent didn't play the way he wanted them to play like. Who is your clout to to judge? How other teams should be playing Athletico Madrid and Diego? Simeone did what needed to be done to beat your clubs Liverpool Team Liverpool. Like the play opened they like to attack and I think it's almost smart to set up no more defending. I think Rory Smith made another valid point that he said it wasn't it was as much about Liverpool failing to convert their chances as it was about Athletico Madrid working out bringing game plan like day were by D. They were to kneel down at one point and that moment to let them back in was crucial but when the moment happened they weren't found wanting they had the man on the field who is going to score twice. They had also another man who's GonNa set up a score one. And that's I suppose where you have to give credit even though I am as Liverpool Fan. You're devastated disappointed very dishonestly. It's why before I knew. Remember after the group stage was complete. Jj and we kind of did our recap of the group stage prediction for team to most likely to go on a run. I set up Madrid and that was before I knew. They're playing Liverpool. I got a little nervous when I thought they were playing Liverpool. What you just said is exactly it the fact that they are so strong defensively but when the moment arrives when they need to score a goal able to do that and I mean they've made a whole identity as Simoni said out of this young Last bit on this game. There's a lot more Ogden yesterday at ESPN AFC. And I think. He's kind of representing the viewpoint of a lot of soccer fans out there Who have been watching Liverpool the season going back to last season and even the year before when they get to a Champions League final win it the next year. See what they're doing the premier league this year and Mark Ogden basically wrote a piece saying it just feels like them going out at this. Stage is going to leave a bit of an empty feeling in an otherwise triumphant season for Liverpool and. I'm just wondering like the shift in viewpoint over the last couple of weeks on what Liverpool's achieving right now if that's a little bit harsh You you know. I've been consistent throughout this. I didn't think at the start of the season that Liverpool would even be titled Champions-elect. I didn't even think I thought it would be so hard to go against the mighty for another season As things move along and as the season goes along other people not klopp not Liverpool started talking maybe even some Liverpool fans started talking about what could be and that's just the way things are in sport right now. as Liverpool rolled along as the defeats didn't calm people started talking about what might be an Roy. Smith wrote a piece on this last week which was pretty good when klopp insisted he was talking. He was taking the season game by game. He was not downplaying his ambitions. It wasn't it was not one of his ambitions if it happened great but it was too distant a prospect to be considered in his plans. You don't plan to go unbeaten. You don't plan to be in the latter stages of the Champions League on top of the primarily by twenty two points it feels. I think as if there is a truth for all fans of all teams in there somewhere a less than that. Maybe everyone might learn no matter what you achieve no matter how well you do there was always someone telling you. There is something more you could have done. Liverpool should should still make Fan's dream come true this year it will just have to get used to being told that it's dream was not big enough. That's everybody else projecting onto the team. The main objective hopefully will be achieved. That's winning the premier league and everything else. I mean look at look at the three two and a half years. They've had in. It's amazing and it's it came to an end last night. It seems a little bit weird because I think we we are still going to view them as one of the greatest premier league teams of all time. I I still do think that so. Maybe it seems a little bit strange that they're not gonNA. They're not going to exit the season with the second trophy whether that was a League Cup. Fa Cup champion or even not even to win the Champions League but to go out in a relatively early stage. It's a little bit strange but I don't think that that will change the way. I the regard that I hold this team in on. Unfortunately in these zero-some game of fans on twitter and social media. This is a black mark that can never be removed because it's not about actually looking at Liverpool as a great team are evaluating the site. It's about scoring points from whatever teams perspective rival teams for perspective. Your from so. Let's put that aside for a second but like let's be proper football men here on said that this is being a brilliant season for Liverpool at the end of a brilliant run in Europe on Dot. Run like they haven't been beaten a home in. Anfield in European competition since the Real Madrid. Twenty fourteen Defeat that's incredible incredible and that traverses most of the KLOPP era That it's almost entirely the COP era. Yeah so And Look Look at the Magic Knights. We've had Dortmund came and scored two goals at Anfield. Liverpool still prevailed in that amazing semifinal. Oh Yeah I remember that night when you try to convince me that Liverpool winning that in the League was bigger than was at Barcelona Madrid Champions League semi final. Yeah I thought it was a bigger game probably are better game. Run or no bigger. It was clearly the word it was your worst. Take that you've had. I don't know if this has ever even recovered. I can't even remember that I'm sure I said something I it's just funny because you see the haters come out When a team is down like I saw this From Juan G Arango on twitter. He's I guess he's a I don't know actually who he is. But he's got Lou checkmark that means he said so much for the magic of Anfield so much for the Mystique of the COP. In my opinion they might be winning the league in a runaway manner but the season was left quite empty. In my honest opinion. This season is a failure for eighteen. That was the best in the world. God yes sure to haters. Yeah I again and again. I'm sure one is coming from some angle Roy. Never who's been on this podcast before? Who is defend or evolving? Argentinian came out and had a pop o'clock last night. Saying he's no sir. Alex Ferguson Sir. Works and it was in the twenty six years. You know what I mean like So everyone's got the role in Atlanta that culminate in football would probably tell you not altruism. I I just wish people could just like. It does seem to me now that football these days. There's a lot of people out there. They don't actually enjoy footballer. The Games are are anything about it. It's it's about the point score. I will say though and I'm not sure I don't WanNa make you feel I want you? I know we joke around but I want you to enjoy this Liverpool experience like this. You waited your whole life essentially to see this and I don't. I'm not trying to take away. I will say though the only the only way I can relate to it like as a phillies fan. They won the world series in two thousand eight and I really think that era. They had a five-year run where they were unbelievably. Good and I. But they're still part of me as great as that. Achievement was when in that world series? Like I still look back on that Erin. Feel like they were good enough to have gotten at least one more and and there is like part of me. That's Kinda like like we left one on the table Yeah now you also have Champions League. We HAVE THE ERA. So you know it. I feel like you. I'd hopefully depending on what happens. With the Corona virus the the Premier League so. That's yeah I don't I wouldn't even think about. So what are you even implying there will I season will be cancelled and no winner will be no no What's GonNa can you imagine what I think will happen? Is that There'll be some kind of shut down for a few weeks. You're twenty twenty will be cancelled and the European football season will join a little bit into the summer. The domestic season to get it finished. That's how I think well it all depends on what happens with this thing and again the rates. Well let's rates of contraction have to go down. We don't right there is no. I was talking to somebody yesterday in there. Like the strange thing about all this is that there's no end zone here like it's not like we're at the ten yard line and we know we lost four yards to go to get like we don't know where like how long this is also kind of carry on for him. So Yeah Yeah. I'll tell you what let's take a quick break when we come back. We'll take a look at the other. Three Champions League matches from the last couple of days. I have a what to watch for here. Half of that has now been essentially cleaned out Because of matches that have been suspended Boat we do have more to get to read cards man of the match and like I said the other Games So don't go anywhere. It's still allowed to do here on. Caught Offside back now on. Caught Offside All right. Jj. We persist we continue now. We we talk soccer in these strange times. Yeah I I don't know I I in me that I just feel like uncomfortable. Come Talk to you and your drifting off thinking about something else I yeah you read me perfectly either locked in come on People WanNa Talk. Want us here to heroes talk about the football as well because again like. I said when we're GONNA talk about it again. Yeah what are we going to do like? Let's say that I haven't thought about what happens to caught. Offside this podcast if there's no there's if everything's canceled. I think we I guess we get a chance to do some the things we never got to do before we get to talk about. Maybe books and documentaries podcast. People have been asking us to talk more about film. Have they really yeah? I've got a direct message of I supposed to read ages. Go about Oh I love when you guys talk. Film is anyway. I know you've got a busy schedule is not any way you can do. Another podcast about film. I don't know I think people are sprinting. For the next button on their Their feeds right now our PS G. They do it. They turn around on Borussia Dortmund in an empty stadium in Paris. And they advance to the quarterfinals. In what I think really I mean. I know it's only the round of sixteen but I think if you look at ps G. and where this has all been headed after the previous two campaigns for them in this competition since they acquired Neymar Imbaba so on and so forth. It's got to be one of the biggest wins in their history that they were able to come back and do this and I think you could see. That is very weird. Jj to to see an empty stadium. A goal scored and with no crowd reaction. Obviously because there's no one in the building to still see players like show such emotion like in some ways it's refreshing because it's like you think it only matters because it's a performance of accident of a crowd either that or the enthusiasm of a building. I think can like can care. There's a nurse to that. I think the enthusiasm of sixty seventy thousand people has a rubbing off effect on the guys who's WHO's at the center of it but I don't know it felt very like high school sports to me. Like watching a guy score a huge goal with no one there but still like it means so much to him. I don't know felt very like as pure a moment as ps g can have. It almost felt like that. Yeah there was What's interesting is hearing their voices when the communication yeah I know. Also you hear when the ball is hit. You hear that noise that you haven't heard since you play you hear it every week and when you play yourself because there's no crowd there and then you hear the pros make the same sounds and also I was listening to a podcast said at the weekend. It was amazing to hear the back and forth between opposition players. The back and forth between teammates the cajoling the anger the jokes all the things that we miss out on because of the crowd noise and he was talking about Venison Intrum Lonzo. Yeah it was It was weird. I obviously because we're focusing on the game only highlights of this bought most of the match reports and from what I could see from the highlights. Like Dorman just didn't show off now on their funding site on you know when you talk to two people who watched them weaken we go talk to their fans. They were there for straightening You don't know what you're going to get from them. Necessarily I mean they can put on a performance in attacking performance. That absolutely wows you. And yet they are capable of being extremely flat They're capable of defensive lapses in a way that you feel. This team is teetering. It's just missing something that it doesn't have for it to be more consistent site. I don't know is that management coaching. But I'm this was a considering what happened in the first leg. This was a a big zero for them. Yeah and credit to PS. Gee It's not just about Dortmund capitulating We had said on Mondays. Podcast that these are the moments that you go out and you get Neymar. And if he's if he's worth it these are the moments where he has to show up. Well he did His first goal his movement to get to that header Maybe it was poor defending by. Ps G. but it's also Neymar just finding away to attack that ball it's perfect And it was huge for them to get that first goal And for him to be the one that did it. I think it just lifted the whole team Getting the second one on the stroke of half-time on kind of a a nifty sort of deflection Huge for them to take that into the locker room and then that was that was all they needed. I know there's been a lot of drama surrounding his birthday. And the usual controversies. That seemed to go with him injuries as well. But a FIEF tweeted it's twenty three combined goals and assists and fifteen appearances since the start of December. Well that's pretty good going considering he hasn't even been available for all the games boy we do. Forget we don't forget we do. It's never forget because it's because he's not on the field or or he's doing something off the field that's Kinda detracting from it but like when it's all said and done and he's out there playing and he's focused he still. I think he he still shows you. He's one of the best players in the world. I'm so curious where they go from here. we're designing implying that this competition does anything go from anywhere right now day one. It's weird I'm thinking about like. Hey if back come back come back. Come back to Andy Comeback. What does anything mean right now? I know don't do this. Chin-ups Sunshine Camman League's getting just read the ACC tournament have been suspended. It's this let's go. Let's go Let's see we continue now. Jj Let's just go. Let's go to Tottenham that'll that'll snapped me out of this funk Boy What a whimper. I mean you talk about zero from Dortmund and here's what I would say about it. I think we have to stop being surprised like I feel. Like every time Tottenham come out This season in big game surprised I feel like I get that that feeling like I feel like. I'm living groundhog day. After each one of these games. Oh my God it's another no show from spurs you know the manager literally three weeks ago. Said he's not surprised these he's telling everybody will be same result. Yeah And since we last spoke they even lost another attacking player to injury. Probably for the remainder of the season in Stephen Bergman I'm a little bit conflicted on Tottenham A because I actually like I said after the first like actually think rb Leipzig are really good I don't think it's a fluke. How well they're doing in this competition or how. Well they're doing in the Bundesliga. They're really good team And be I don't WANNA sound like whiny sore loser here but like injuries do matter. And I can't tell you the Tottenham win if bird vine and sun and Kane are healthy but I can also tell you that it matters that those players aren't there Davinson. Sanchez is hurt. That Moussa Sissoko is hurt That Ben Davies is hurt like that. You Sold Victor. One Yama and I don't even know what role he was going to continue playing so I almost don't include him but I know what you mean. We've barely spoken about his transfer. But you heard marina just deteriorated so much as a player partially because of injuries over the last twelve months So it's kind of a team that is like two things are happening at once. They're in a period of major transition And it's not going well as is often the case with teams in transition and they're also it is what it is like. They're ravaged by injuries right now and I think this is. This is the end product. You're seeing what that all looks like when it's all happening at once on throwing a lack of a computer coherent playing style to suit. The personnel has throwing The negativities the the CIG- The basically your star player your most expensive player being signalled for abuse in the media. Put that all together. That dripstone the weird thing about Tottenham Austat yesterday that like you think about Josie Marino coming into your squad as manager and what that typically means. It means okay. We're going to not be quite so attacking but we're going to load up defensively. And we're not going to concede goals. Jj in the Premier League. This is across all competitions so the status slightly but the point remains since Marino took over only one club has conceded more goals than spurs in that time. And that's Aston Villa. Like that is yeah so he's not even doing the things that he was good at before. Now here's my belief. Do I think this is the squad in transition that needs to be overhauled yes? Do I believe that this is the only way it could be? It has to be this. Bide everything about it from the optics of the football to the off can be no other way no. I don't believe that the only reason that I slightly disagree with you saying that is because this had started under Pocchettino I don't believe that this is just Josie Marino problem like this. The football being this bad is not just a Josie Marino problem. I can tell you I was watching him every single game. It was this. Maybe it was this not says maybe Andrew but you know in the press conference afterwards. He does the same thing he's been doing week after week. He's GonNa hang everyone else's players you think you think Bacelona can do X. Y. Without Messy Juarez utain Liverpool can do anthing without for menial manner except in the semi finals last year. Liverpool did do something without third key players. And Guess What the Club you're at right now did as well. They didn't throw the bloody towel and weeks beforehand and I really great point. I ain't wasn't on that field and he wasn't and I didn't get a chance to to to vent about this. As well but Tottenham fans who are defending Joseph Marino allowed Tottenham manager to three days before a derby against the team that their fans despise their. Load him to throw in the towel. You talking about Partido in no daylight Marino to throw in the towel three days before the Chelsea game right out your life sake. He could come on man. Come on making noises about playing Frank Lampard's Chelsea it's Andrew. Things can be bad. There is a way to deal with it. So you this. Paci no did the same against Arsenal Before the League Cup when he played a B Squadron and no not not not a beast. What did he say or did he not say in the week beforehand? Did Pacino ever said that? That's it. We're not GONNA win the remember his exact comment but he he talked about basically that competition is not what their goal is right. That's not the same thing. That's a priority thing. This is the literally saying we can't do anything in this game. I will accept injuries and on this transition period is a and that there are players who are going to have to be moved on and things need to change but this is this is not the guy to do it and this is not the way to do it yeah. I don't know if he when he took this job on 'cause he's not necessarily a guy that you point to is somebody who you would go to to oversee a rebuild. I think he's somebody that you go to to change things up on a squad that can win but like can't seem to get over the hump which has been Tottenham. They've been good for years now but they haven't gotten the hump they haven't gotten over the Hump and won a trophy. But like I. I don't know if he quite realized What Patino was realizing in that? Oh this is this is not a team that is ready to get over the hump. This is a team that got close to it. Miss Their chance and now they are on the other side and the weird thing is though we keep talking about how How it's over like this run is over but like I was going back and looking at the ages of the players on the team. They're not old. Like do you have a couple of El Dorados now over thirty but you know for tongue but like era dire is twenty eight Like I was going through the list. You know they're mostly guys who are like twenty six twenty seven and twenty eight. They're kind of in that spot right now where they should. They should be in their prime. I mean I just wonder if because Tottenham hadn't refreshed their squad over the past few years. The tread on those tires is comparable to that of a guy in their mid thirties. I don't know some. I mean something's wrong whether it's injuries whether it's there's a danger. Jing whether it's the style it's probably look it's everything. I don't think you get to this point without it being a little bit of a lot of things right and there's also danger that we're on overkill Josie Marino. I mean he is just infecting every conversation about Spurs. I'm not. I'm not really talking about him right now I I. Can't you hate his guts? You have a personal thing against him. I'm hey don't do that. No don't do that come on. That'S THE PERSONNEL J. True the personal. What the Personal Grudge Josie Marino is based on what he does in his personal. So I'm reflecting here. Alone even among Tottenham fans there were the first day he was hired decided. This this is a horrible idea. And they were against him. Everything I said is being based on what we've seen so far utterances from his mouth and it's just I don't understand I like I said on Mondays podcast and this is why I feel as if we need to get off the subject. We can look in the mirror. You don't look at me if you talk about Marino. No it's me. Oh it is me. I don't I don't understand The targeting of players like this. I don't I don't get it last but not least here for the Champions League Atlanta Take Care of business against Valencia Eight four on aggregate unbelievable Joseph Illitch was incredible scored all four of Atalanta's goals in this game. And he's a he's a cult hero for me right now his. I looked at his stats in his record. It's not like he's ever been a huge enormous club. You know what I mean like a on. He's in the wind down of his career and he's just landed at Atlanta and doing all these amazing things he's kind of being out of state level for a while but as also being super talented and a Turkey to. He's probably having his best season in across all competitions. He's twenty nine games played. Twenty one goals nine assists Five goals in the Champions League fifteen goals in Syria. Well he had five goals in this tie against Valencia. And there's an amazing stat that accompanies that Illegit now becomes the first player not named messy or Rinaldo to score five or more goals in a Champions League knockout tie that's the group Aldo messy illegitimate like. Where's like left off ski or or like Van? Nestle royalties is just not the guy that I would guess. They reminds me of what happened in like USA. Ninety four wasn't it Oleg Salenko that scored like a Tony Goals for Russia against can't remember who it was and he ended up like sharing the Golden Boot with Romario? Someone you know is like it. Was this list of Brigham players. Baio remarried will only accelerate auto. Yeah this is. Another one of those games played in an empty stadium I seen it before and soccer still jarring To see what meaner Zouqi tweeted them. How weird it was. Because she was following the game Being an Italian football expert and I tweeted out our if the Messiah is empty. Is it even the Messiah? I mean the Messiah got this Mystique in the early two thousands for being this cauldron the away like you had to win your home leg because you weren't GonNa win there and is it even that does it. Is it that Katina football when there's a Web parishoners now. I guess you could say that. About a Lotta buildings I mean. Without an atmosphere it's just becomes brick and mortar. You're right But good for Atalanta. They advance or something they they advance. We don't know what they advanced to. We are in a weird time which you keep. I mean if I'm bad Marino you on corona viruses just think one warrants it okay. What to watch for what to watch. I don't know paint. Drying Levy. Dis. Don't know what to watch for everyone. I'm as of now. Just read the fixtures Williams because we don't know as of now in the English premier league Saturday eleven. Am Manchester City versus Burnley? Asterix Saturday one thirty PM Sorry matches city Bernie asked versus Chelsea Sunday twelve thirty. Pm Tottenham Versus Manchester United on Monday four PM Everton versus Liverpool couple. Quick things before move off of it. should city lose and Liverpool win. Liverpool would win the title. Yes it could happen on Monday I'd be surprised if Manchester City lost at home to Burnley I'm very curious about Everton and Liverpool regardless just because at Goodison I almost want Manchester City to lose that game. Because I WANNA see the way. Everton treat that match at home against Liverpool. I really think it's like we've talked about. This couple is there. I mean could. Could they have a bigger game in this era? Then that one. Could you sound more like Ross from friends? First of all I think it was probably Chandler that you're thinking On his channel to simulate truly into American culture and I blow at a friend's reference and you just showed the world how Irish really our only God Yup Are you sure about the Matt's they're Andrew? Yes and don't ever question me all right And I also wanted to say that Like we were just talking about Tottenham a moment ago like the funny thing is. Let's say the Manchester City Uefa Ban is upheld and that fifth spot is up for grabs for a Champions League place Very quietly like I know Tottenham morale among fan base. They may as well be in the relegation zone right now but very quietly. This match is enormous for Spurs. Because here's the thing Josie Marino is probably gonNA continue to be the manager for next season and he's GonNa want a significant transfer budget because I don't know if you've been paying attention He wants some new players. On the squad if Tottenham don't qualify for the Champions League who get who's WHO's coming to this team right now by the way who you keeping his Harry Kane has said for for all the. He's one of our own that he's treated as and he'll always be at Tottenham Ledge matter. What happens but he made his point pretty clear when he said he will remain with Spurs as long as he feels like. There's an upward trajectory. Does anyone anyone with eyes. And a brain look at this team right now and see upward trajectory and there'll be an emboldened Manchester United with money round the corner so like suddenly like they need to pick themselves up quickly And I know I said before we need to stop. Being surprised like my expectation is that they will not win this game But if there is any sort of hope left in salvaging some kind of like future for this club To be to continue to be what they've been the past four five seasons they gotTA START WINNING. And it's gotTa start now because this is a huge differential if they lose this game as opposed to winning it. They've only got one game left against the top six side after this that's against Leicester so they've got on paper winnable games coming up but this is one that they absolutely desperately need So yeah pick yourself up spurs nation. It's it's still It's still a big game. It's still a big game. Jj HAVE MLS Here on what to watch for. Obviously these Games are not happening. The League has been suspended But I do want to quickly say that A quick little discussion on what happened in the cockpit. Aft Champions League up to this point that has also been suspended like we said earlier. NYC AFC losing. Just a in the first leg of total Gut Punch right at the end. Vargas right at the end and they looked set. They looked competitive in that game. And there is hope for for the away-leg but it's That's going to be tough. It's going to be very tough. Anita and Ronnie data is just having the most horrendous Dr to who is To his time as manager will they did advance to the quarterfinals hip at San Carlos? Andrew Okay And then also Atlanta United F C with a terrible start to their Quarterfinal in the CONCACAF Champions League Yeah. It's it's not looking good for them at all Obviously a game. That won't happen but I've a jolt I. I'm going to SHOEHORN IT IN AN INTER MIAMI versus La Galaxy. David Beckham faces. His former club won't be the first time Galaxy Fancy Beckham in another clubs colors saying how much time at La Means to him. That's very clever. No but yeah that game's been suspended Also I should mention Montreal With a a a really fun to watch in their CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinal Speaking of watches don't rate atty on the moon was the French. Twelve of whom did not go the way that they wanted. No we talked on Yama before. It's weird seeing him in a Montreal impact. Kid It's just a it's weird. How angry Canadians got up me for saying this was not the career trajectory when he left Celtic to end up in Montreal at twenty eight. What's wrong with Montreal America? Yes yeah so Tyrian rewatch. If you thought that my chasing at the hands of Athletico Madrid would have stopped my smugness. You are wrong friends. You are very wrong for frowned schadenfreude. What's the French for Schadenfreude who by the way So first of all They lost to Olympia who Went module and one bought at late in the second half. The impact had a penalty. Appeal turned away by referee. Underneath Escobedo. You brought the saw who originally pointed to the spot only to reverse his decision and give a corner kick after consultation with his assistant. Olympia has mailer. Nunez looked to commit a handball offence. On a headed effort by Montreal's Anthony Jackson Hamill and to see teary. Anri upset on the sideline about a handball. Not being called was just not you. Chefs cases are desperate. Eleven every eight eleven years later. How do you like them? Apples teary or sorry. Excuse me I was going to sit in French palms. You're still bitter about it. No I'm actually not but I did think it was kind of I would be. It was kind of funny to see the parallels I and in fairness onery to give him his credit he did not bring it up his post-match he said he said that was not the reason they lost to schoolboy defensive errors within reason. They lost that game. And I give on retort credit for that. I merely clutching at straws friends. Nah I'll hold the bitterness of the Panama. A non goal with me forever for the US. To not qualify. I I've given it up. It's over forever The the the penalty decision. I don't know ultimately maybe I have to see it again. I feel like they arrived at the right call. I think My only thing is it just feels weird that the referee who standing right there and pointing to the spot would then defer to a guy who's like forty yards away in making in changing his mind on the decision at just feels strange to me. I mean we often talk about being Qaft by both teams and referee. So maybe this is an example of it Yeah I'm not. I'm not really sure about that. One to be honest with you. The moment of the game was known of what we've spoken about so far. It was Sapphire Tater school which was a volley from thirty five yards. And here's how it sounded badges. Tell you start a cutback billlion goals in America North American soccer last. Why you ask what you do to change it. Maybe do that all right. You can't go. You can't go around. Funny Tottenham Find God in touch with us and said Because I tweeted out the goal goal. By tater of a half volley from thirty five yards. Brilliant and he goes. You're not gonNA talk about one. Yam setting it up like it was a joke like we're now just literally nodded the ball onto that can't even count as an imagine. That probably does count as so. This is a thing now like you're you've now created a vendetta against this club against manager against their key signing like you know it was A. He was making a funny joke about when Yama. Because you've because it's a known thing that you have it in for no he's career no the guy who sent him. Just trying to squeeze as a tottenham trying to squeeze any joy out of any thing related taught it was more relating to you mocking where. Wanyama's career has taken him. No it had nothing to do with that. It was funny though because it was. That's going to go down as an assist as it should. He's literally just heading into the guy as we say not. All assists are created by the way Mailbag has gone into material. Mailbag will return next week. Yeah we're GONNA need that. I think yes we are. We're not GONNA have a ton of content may not creative enough to. We're going to be leaning on mail back. Please keep the male short right. I feel like like when we say to people. Hey We have a our podcast tomorrow is going to be a mailbag special. So start sending them in. Now we're going to a full episode of Mailbag. Don't you feel like that's the podcasting equivalent of when you came into school as a kid and your teacher was like okay? We're GONNA WATCH A video today. Like that was their way of saying like. I just don't feel by being in the bar till eleven last night. Watch a video. I am hung over. You do whatever you need to have this history channel documentary about The War of eighteen twelve sure studied Gulf War. Watch it that you need to see it at four o'clock afraid Let's see let's. Let's do this red card. I hear I want to get this out of the way because I don't feel good about this and so I feel like if I go. I maybe I'm burying it and people will forget later on arts. The first thing they heard and they'll stop listening through out the door of the car and a the the rescue Ron. I'M GONNA I'm GONNA forge ahead. I don't feel good about this. Because the fan aspect of soccer is is maybe my favorite part of the game And the images that we saw like the love the celebration everything we saw from. Ps G and their supporters outside the park to Prince's following Wednesday's win was no it was it was special. Honestly if you were somebody who was there that's that will hopefully be remembered by a special memory. I saw ESPN AFC's account tweet. A picture of the celebration with the caption. Psd celebrating with their fans is iconic and my my initial instinct was honestly to agree with that. The images their incredible. I mean look up the tweet. It's really really something. But then I saw a tweet from Leander Charlatans soccer columnist for Yahoo and Kinda smacked me back to reality when he responded to that tweet by saying no Actually it's stupid. The point of closing the stadium to fans was to avoid a large public gathering going out to celebrate with them will only encourage more of them to come out the next time so I saw that and I thought about it and I thought I don't want to agree with him because he's Kinda pouring cold water on coal soccer moment but I'm sorry anyway slice it. He's right There's currently a ban in France for gatherings For any gathering of over a thousand people as a way of trying to fend this off but for whatever reason the. Ps G alturas were granted a special exemption by the police. So they were not there. Legally that was granted for them to do that. I know we've been able to live our lives and we don't want to remain in a constant state of fear but the sentiment but like that sentiment is kind of for another day like we said like you're going to be inconvenienced right now and you're not gonna be able to do all the things that you wanna do and it's all in the name of public health and as cool as the moment was that was not in the best interest of public health as people are trying to do everything in their power to curb the spread of this virus so like. I'm sorry I'm being that guy. This is such a Debbie. Downer moment that I'm kind of throwing at you on something. That looked cool. But leandra charlatans with his tweet. It was harsh the way he put it but he's not wrong. Those those images that we saw yesterday from outside of that stadium three thousand people gathering to celebrate that with the team. It was cool but it probably shouldn't have probably but those people are going to be there one way or the other whether the police granted them a permit or not they were going. That was it so all right bold it does have to. I don't have to agree with it though. No you don't definitely not OK. People legal talk incoming. I want everyone just to bear with me. How long is this? Here we go. Us Soccer Federation's filings emerged at the start of the week from the lawsuit over equal pay brought by the US women's national teams within the filings. Where some hugely controversial arguments that is Julie? Foudy described on the call of the US women's game against Japan broadcast as one of the tent poles of the USF argument against equal pay so within the filings are following as outlined by Meglena in in the Atlantic who is covering this as better than anyone in the most recent document. Us Soccer attorneys argued that the ability levels between the men's national team on the Women's national team are fundamentally different that the overall soccer playing ability for the men's national team is materially influenced by the level of certain physical attributes such as speed and strength required for the job. The point is that the job of men's national team players competing against senior. Men's national teams requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength. Then does the job of women's national team players competing against senior women's national teams the federations attorneys also note that there is evidence that men's national team players face tougher competition even on a relative basis than the women's national team which makes sense on some level as the men are ranked twenty first in the world according to whereas the women are number one overall in the respective rankings while US soccer argues that this is an additional basis to deny the players motion it is also combination condemnation of their success an addition to federation pushes back against equal responsibilities as part of equal work between the two teams. They stay at that. The women only participate in one revenue generating tournament every four years. That's the fief a women's World Cup whereas the men's national team players have responsibility for competing in multiple soccer tournaments with the potential for generating a total of more than forty million dollars in prize money for us soccer. Every four years television ratings were also tied to the concept of equal responsibilities though it is unclear how that will be listed in the job description of either. A men's national team are win women's national team player beyond similar tasks of media appearances and gain promotion. Finally the Federation Attorney Staff that working conditions also apply to the case and the main quote routinely play matches important World Cup qualifiers in particular throat Mexico Central America and the Caribbean opposing. Fan Hostility encountered in these men's national team road environments especially in Mexico and Central America is unmatched by anything. The women face while trying to qualify for an important tournament. This also extends to friendly's in the Fed in the federation's argument. Okay so let me go to. Mina kimes right now. Who breaks down the problems with all that was a good argument to make Us Soccer is trying to argue here. That the women do not deserve equal pay because they don't do equal work. They're contending that the men have more difficult jobs. This is problematic for a couple of reasons. One if you follow that logic to its natural conclusion you're basically saying women should never deserve equal pay for physical labored which I think we can. All agree is a problem to the other issue with the size and strength and speed thing. We know that's true. Everyone knows it. We don't have to deny it. Everybody knows if the US women play the US men they would be at a physical advantage but they do not play the US and they play they play other women and they dominate them. That's where the legal argument falls apart in the real world in this strikes me as incredibly short sta short sighted and catastrophically down for you a soccer because Wallace's argument that might win in court. It's one that's going to hot them in the future. Generations will not look kindly this sort of that last point she makes. There is very interesting because I don't know what it is that. Us Soccer Federation cares more about like she says this. May Win them. The argument in court. Well that may be it like. They may not care about the optics of their argument now. Carlos Cordeiro came out and apologized. Which Meghan REPEA- knows responded to an says that she doesn't buy it a budweiser Are One of the sponsors who chimed in saying they're disappointed in what was said In the filings by US soccer's attorneys also SPAN. Made an excellent point and on the this is the key point to me You don't pump as much Money Resources Energy time into women's soccer and yet on the revenue side. You want it to come. You say it has to. It can't compete with the men's well of course not. You haven't given that the time the money or the care to do that. She she cited the example of Tennis. Where women's tennis was promoted was given equal. Tv standing as the men's game. That's the one thing always struck me about tennis. Yeah it's always been held up as as as equal and they put they promoted it. They put money into it. They as much as they could. Equally comparison equalised the pianist. And it flourished you know it's like me you having a plant and your plant is just amazing and you give it all the water and older nourishment needs in an at flowers open. It looks amazing. And you compare it with mine in a competition which has been given none of those things in his a weedy small liars plant. You know it's just an unfair basis for argument and by the way nobody looks at Megan routine or Carolina. Lloyd and says they can't sprint like Christian Pulisic. They're they're not as they're not as that. They don't tackle this tough as as Michael Bradley. So what who was comparing them. They don't play their two different realms and it is right about another thing to like okay. You may win the court battle but this is extraordinarily bad. Pr Around. A team right. Now that this country is in love with I will get turned. It's it's almost like okay. You've taken this step to prop your men's team up above your women's team but in the process because of how beloved the women's team is you have vilified your men's team like is there any financial downfall from from taking that route. I guess we'll see now. You're you're seeing men's players releasing statements essentially voicing their support like I saw DaMarcus Beasley just released a lengthy statement voicing his support for the women's fight for equal pay. A lot of players have done. It's an unfair and they almost have to. They have to know to To defend I suppose I mean they just come across really badly in this and There it's unfortunate they've been dragged into the mix of this this comparison that US soccer's using as as Julie. Foudy said one of their tent Poles. I'll of the of the debate against are not the debate the lawsuit that has been taken by the women But I have more not. Oh you do okay. Well caught offsides man of the match. While we're on if you want to just go right. You talked about the backlash. Backlash has already begun. So my women of the match are the women's national team and it's because of what they did on the field. Let me let me deal with that part. I I guess. They put in a performance of huge amounts of skill. Two of the finest goals. I've seen look at some of the goals we've seen in the last ten days the brilliant free kick from Meghan Regino up over the wall into the top corner and the brilliant Shikha from your dialing your favorite Kristen price honest question. Has she ever scored ever scored a boring goal are every single? One of her goals. Incredible would you say the goals of a pretty high level of skill to chip the keeper from twenty yards? I looked pretty skillful. Not Not not to mention what she did against England that almost one torch out of her feet on smashes it home own believable performance day they put in and you can't take it away of the context that was worrying around in their minds before the game in protest at the comments emerge from the filings. They wore their training tops. Back to front so you could only see the four stars a not. The federation quiet crest which came. I think what an amazing move. You talked about the backlash. There's a t shirt that I'm sure selling like hotcakes. Right now off the inverted crest of the of the embroidered crests. That's inside out that they wore with just four stars on the outline of the shield. The backlash is already going here. And I can't believe the tact that you the. Us Soccer Federation has taken against these amazing women. They are amazing because guess what they're fighting. A campaign for equal rights was scoring some of the best schools. You'll see and winning games. And that's what they do they win. You can hit their hairstyles. You can hit their demeanor. You can hit their politics if you want although. I'm not sure how you coat because but when it comes down to it. These women are winning. They're doing the job. They're just unbelievable. Yep Awesome let's see. Jj My medal match. I went with any fail harbor. One of the more I think. One of the more underrated great. American soccer careers has come to an end. I think the word I used pre pod was criminally underused from two thousand seven to two thousand seventeen. He made forty four appearances for the US. Men's national team. He was a member of the two thousand ten World Cup squad and the two thousand eight Olympic squad only score two goals for the US but one of them was. I gotta say one of the more one of the most memorable. Us goals scored in the last twenty. Years is in the Gold Cup against Mexico with the score tied in the seventy third minute. Wednesday lower divisions of England. Seventy two. And your the cool thing about his career that it's not necessarily one. That was destined to happen. He so he was born in. Brazil moved to southern California and had to walk on to the US Ucla College team. Like he's not some guy who came from like just like Oh let me just go off to Europe and like star plan to h sixteen like he he went to college had to walk on and then after two years at UCLA talent was shining through any actually left And signed with Hamburg in the Bundesliga He also made ten primarily appearance. Darby County Great. Mls Player for New England L. AFC Colorado but most notably Sporting Kansas City. He actually joined us Last was it last year. Two years As he was awesome to talk to what a what a good dude he I think he's going to be very interested in voice in. Us Soccer Komo going forward. I hope he is You said that Your Klinsmann really. That was guy on his career international career. Yeah I don't know why I don't know what it was about his game He was a creative number. Ten style player tacking attacking midfielder forward player. That code linked to play could score. Goals could set other people up. After he posted his statement on twitter that he was retiring other players kind of came from out of the woodwork to share their praise Nat wrote congratulations on a great career. Benny love the way. You played the game best wishes on the next step. Bud Jimmy Conrad Road. Quite possibly the best passer of the ball. I have ever played with still. Don't think you get the credit you deserve. In this regard Josie altidore wrote. He came on for Spain and boss it when they were unreal class player and person some amazing memories together all the best in the future. Benny was not that famous. Confederations Cup game. So like how so Wayne reared that so it was two years later before cleansing up the job. Right because that can vary. That was oh nine. He was on the two thousand ten team. And Bob Rally was out shortly after that and Clinton came in the two careers that I kind of. Look at almost side by side Are His and Sasha questions like two players that I really held in such high regard that you always Kinda of that for whatever reason? They're they're national team. Careers were sort of derailed. While they're club careers continued to thrive. And you never quite understood why class they both came back into the fold but it was sort of a little too late. Oh was and they never really got a proper run but yeah great player Like I said one of of all the MLS players we've had on. He was probably one of the most fun we spoke into so I wanted to make sure he got some love on this on this podcast today. What pod we did it. I'm glad it's it's this long this me he this involved because we don't know what's GonNa Happen. Yeah we're GONNA continue to do the show of course We'll do it every week Even if we have to play games ourselves one V one with Andrew. You know people. I've been playing with I I. It was so nice out over the weekend Jack and I went outside playing. He was. He's four years old. He was sensational yet. Where do you take from now from you? Sure it is. It's not I'd try to wonder. How do I harness Andrews Skill? Andrew's wife actually knows her way around a soccer ball and played in high school. And you can tell. Adra did not and you can tell. I mean when we played that one day I thought I owned her out on the wing. You couldn't get past me because if you're meaty thighs they're big flat. Pack your big flabby legs trip and are up. There was no skill in your game. Look if you want to show cards so cards. But I didn't see any that day. Me and her were the dominant players that day. You play for a living okay. You're better than all of us. Haven't touched a soccer ball and he never played for living. You're like a borderline pro and you wanna I against peons and yourself up like messy. No I'm a DP average player that just made you look like a fool. That's that's it. I'm now going to train. I'm GonNa Start Training. Threatened isn't a floor with the time you've got the Roy Keane play one on one like is there any sort of game that we comply like in basketball would take one on one crossbar challenge. That could be fun. Done Don got on a train and I believe that I will get. You'RE GONNA train crossbar challenge. Yeah I'M GONNA go outside with a ball rain or shine snow. Whatever and I'm just I'm GonNa like you promise now and we'll do this. We'll record it. We put it up That could be fun. Okay okay. Let's do it. Oh God that is noncommittal. Let's do it all right but you see like what am I going to train? You know. I've got kids until you have a child until you have a child until you have a child you do not understand okay. Yeah that's you all over okay. Guy States if yeah keep keep Cdc DOT ORG and Look after each other yes. Yeah absolutely and keep in touch with us because I'll tell you what we got. A big MAILBAG special coming around the bend. This this glad that we did this honestly. This was important and I guess I'll see next week. All right man take care you to take your phone by listening to caught. Off-side soccer podcast.

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Men in Blazers 06/26/20: WGFOP: The Bald

Men In Blazers

23:46 min | 4 months ago

Men in Blazers 06/26/20: WGFOP: The Bald

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca. If you listen to optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC sports network. It's Roach. It's Friday. Not just any Friday. But the morning off the night before a sensational happening there will be long remembered in premier. League history yes. Really finally happened. Also won the way game. I Jest I jest all Hail Liverpool Football Club. Once a footballing grey gardens now premier league champions, and they didn't say. Merchants have to boot up to the OH Chelsea. Football Club name, a team that loves pissing in the punch more. They done Manchester City last night. Will thanks to a little known young twenty one euro from Hershey Pennsylvania? Have you heard of him? To be a chance on here. Simply loose. Christian Pulisic put. The US. International scoring second. Could be. This way. When bull went in. I felt so very sick. Don't worry. I will live because. Football is the most important least important thing as they say a place where he can suffer the darker, stacking these and then just walk away unscathed. That is what is great about it and one my darkest phase in life really for the past thirty years. It's been Liverpool winning the title. It's happened. It's happened. And now. Furiously trying to rationalize it all away like it's not like they have to now a domestic policy, foreign policy and fight the pandemic or anything. The world will go home pretty much the same. Even, though it's now totally different. COMB, wait livable tough to defend that title as every single all ago can Petro Dole. Fuel team relates. Come on you all. Come on you Petro Dollah fueled whatever you are. Next season Ma words will be Everton's year. We'll talk more about that and now Hershey Lord and Savior in a moment. Let me just full disclosure. Yup, this was a tough night for me I. Say after this year of global pandemic, and the black lives matter protest, even I dark of hough recognize that Liverpool's glory brings joy to millions and that feeling. I'm feeling is exactly what the world needs right now. So much to cheer about for reds, fans in a time of darkness, even fleetingly glory wonder. I can hear the sound of memories being made. Be Gained, Sam. I comb is journal. Nova keeps reminding me if you can not appreciate you in cloak. You cannot appreciate life. What he's achieved in his four and a half years and unfilled transcends sports, the teamer amazing. They've obliterated all comers. This season won the league with a record setting seven games still today I'll say. No ASTERISK! That can tell you, but let's dive in pick through the gigantic questions about Liverpool titles life and love question one. Going Raj. Column from Lawrence Kansas. My Name's Brett I've been a Liverpool supporter for about eight years. Now I'm sitting here. Watching in the dying minutes of Chelsea at Man City and It I'm I. Am St Louis I. Feel this beautiful sense of Catharsis that I. Kind of forgot that sports brought this kind of joy to people. And I I don't know what to say. Other than I just I'm extremely happy. For hoping you're all well and always purge Lawrence. When I interviewed, you lost time until me. The memory should be made from the small moments on the journey, not just the act of winning and lifting the trophy itself and I love the approach life that makes simply because well. It's very liberating is inevitable found. The may not be a law trophy lifting, but that that is true about life itself life is not always full of trophy lifting, and if it was, it will be. It'd be all the worst for it so I'm thrilled for you. Your family, your memories and he went down with level to fill amazingly about the glory. The football you've seen the squad filled with. Characters from front to back that Trident most Saleh Manet crazy bobby for Menia the ANDROID, three thousand the football fumble. Man mounted big footage at the back. In front of the handsomeness goalkeeper of all time, and either side Flynn Kim Trent and Robo, those too young dragons, flying, burning up the flanks that clip himself was known to run down and above all day. A play who arrived onfield somewhat of a kind of Phil? Jones Cass agree punchline, and then through Shia force of will has transformed himself. Into a Liverpool legend. On the team that won twenty six twenty seven league games from August to the end of February the haven't lost their home in the league in three years. WHO's creative force is a young right back more on trend in a moment and a club that spent just one hundred and thirty million dollars net on transfer fees over the last five years so much to unpack. I'll say I'm sad. The Liverpool didn't win on the field. I'm sad the Anfield faithful couldn't may memories together and just save a ninety minutes as the clock take down with full throated won the watching. That team will more time my brother. As you'll never had a season ticket and failed and the thought of him, not being able to make memories with his son in person. Well. That's just the world that we're living in a heard from a lot of Liverpool fans last night. One of my mates told me. I found the final whistle quite overwhelming. It was almost infantilized. Take me back to being thirteen years old where awards and what the world was like thirty years ago. To me! That's the power of football. Right that and I love that. The Way, it empowers you. Limp deepest humanity. Next question. Raj this is Liz in South Bend Indiana I. Am Goner Some. My husband isn't read. I am currently expecting our second child and Liverpool maybe winning the title today. Or later this week. Does that have to make this baby at read? How do I save or her or let them decide later? I need help courage as you know. I'm genuinely excited to hey what you're ultimately. Call you, baby, boy, or girl I think I'm going to give you a one time exemption for. Naming it no Joe Joe last night then in nine months time it's going to be thousands of babies born across. Liverpool. All of them named policy. Trend probably more lightly. Let me know what you come up with. A will mixed emotions for me. When police it scored that goal his seventh of the League season. I'm knockin ally. Let's take a listen to the Raj Cam. American. American plans! In America. Brought my heart, some go off the field six touches six seconds one majestic status staff during amend. It doesn't need much joy. Mendy does and allow him to self destruct. Some play watching Devin. hester returned a can't a loved about it most. was. The Finish Christine had so much time too much time to think to panic to second. Guess that finish. Was All superlative confidence and orcas well so well star who believes in himself. He's feeling himself right now. On. An old simile that was what was remarkable to me about this moment that it was a young American stall at scoring the goal. The handed the title to an American own team. Sport the future sport, the future, no more Liverpool Football Club owned by affects chief Boston save by a festive Boston. Really when they stepped in to bind the club in October two thousand and ten Liverpool were floundering. Financially Meltdown Chalk Locker Room friends on the bring mutiny. A process of change began. It's not been a straight line to glory the days with tough I remember John Henry to Ryan Open letter to angry Liverpool fans in two thousand twelve Brenda roaches taking over the team? The transfer winner just shut the club fail to land the strike they needed and the fan base will live it live. It hashtag s G. How was everywhere everywhere? The club would not spend in the cash to bring in the quality of players. Do they remember I? Remember going up to interview someone in Boston and tweeting. What questions if you got until one and the questions were. Now Where's Willy Am just furious? Furious Liverpool fans who were disappointed at the quality of the incoming, but affects. She stayed the course they learned their lessons might. Gordon is a remarkable book. The cheap president he's overseeing the turnaround turnaround propelled by strategic leadership, a real ability to learn from their mistakes and the Carolina one and I say this to break the red SOx curse in two thousand four was amazing. What a feat! This time they! The brain trust of done it again. But with the whole world watching. Next, question. Hi Raj Brian here from Goshen Indiana I'm a toffee US national teams. Kala rapids in Chicago Red Stars supporter. You've recently shared about your best parenting. Achievement is raising four kids to be ever can. I'm still working on my kids to become Evertonians in the jury still out. Though my seven year old son does love the US national team, and still about thirteen zero drubbing of Thailand last summer, and the question to you is what advice you have for instantly, not just our footballing values, but our cultural values as we bring up the next generation. Courage I love that question about values Brian because when I think about Liverpool success over the past five seasons. I say as a triumph of valleys and they found these come from one man. You can clock. Yes a Bluecher I've done mercy tied, and instantly instinctively showed he understood the scout mentality. The scout value system the SCOWLS yearning. But it's you enforce these value system on the club. A value system the transcend sports. Finally Systems has been the platform on which all tactics and there's been many. That squad building impressive, but both of them have been constructed on a bed of Jurgen KLOPP's values, and he's been articulated a collective spirit. Trust. Confidence Humility and above all. Tenacity. And that's what I really admire about Liverpool underclothes, and yes is inevitable and I know a meant to despise everything, but you know what sawed that because in this world. Right now we've called me football fans. Based on love and not hate. The world does not need any more hates. Why admire most is how he's infuses scored with his tenacious approach to life. You lose a Champions League final in heartbreaking fashion to Rayo Madrid, Get back into that final. The next you go win it all. Trail Manchester City nonetheless any Manchester City one of the greatest sites to ever kick a football in the premier league. Lose the title to them by a single point in law season's campaign reload go again and obliterate all comers the next. That is amazing when or fail beautifully while trying that is the only way. The only way in football. And in life and I'll say last night. I found that incredibly moving to see you. Can Club leave that interview? The first interview after the title was finally Liverpool's. To watch him. Tear up to what Chaim cry. Was! It was devastating because what frustrated me about your clump over the years is when I interviewed him. He's always more comfortable playing the role of let the lovable maverick Gesta porn my finger. Van Guy, but when you look at his career for Mites to Doorman to Liverpool, he's just a serial monogamist, and is a payless overseer of transformational leadership and cultural change, some heavy crap, but it's sort of himself. He prefers not to share. And last night in that moment of glory, the Moss dropped, we sold the real year again, and it was humanly beautiful l.. Have Else it's unbelievable? It's. Much more than I ever thought would be possible. Becoming chairman with this. With this topic Singapore, the incredible. Knowing, how much Kenny supported us! It's for you as well. Kanye we have to wait. Another thirty is that you're up convenient? It's for Stevie who had to wait a long time? And now it's all because this all spilled on your soul Kenny likes on of Stevie condemned the boys. Set my you and. It is easy for me to motivate the team. Because of our great history, it's it's a big moment. I cannot have agreed to be honest. I it such a big moment. I'm completely overwhelmed. I never would have thought that it would be like this has no idea and. It's just big. Sorry Gentlemen Amsteel all the best. An uncommonly. Decent man. Next question, please Hey Roger. It's smirk. Dolchai, earning him annoy and I. Don't support any team. I just watch it all. How was your relationship with? Nigel now that the pool has clinched. The title I'm interested in that family dynamic whether it has proceeded smoothly or whether narrow, only communicating via before I, think by. Age. Bless my brother. Older brother who. Come from three generations of Everton fans somehow I could attend the I. Know You want me to get him on the pods, so we can explain how, but even nice does not know exactly how wha, when no age became a Liverpool Fan. In My. Mind properly a bandwagon. because. We both spent our full of years witnessing Liverpool Stars Perpetually cruise by our road aboard an open top birth, a searing site the players. lolling casually around the cap on the front of the epidemic pay that suggested winning really been no sweater to. The victim test would occasionally chuck packets of sponsored chewing gum from their lofty perch towards we. Peasants belay mostly their adoring wrecking fans, but I'd always be in that trying to grab a pack. But because the booty was associated with the enemy, I couldn't consume it in public. A Chumpol Nick guiltily nowy in the privacy of my bedroom, replete with single bed. Surrounded by posters of my grim-faced efforts in heroes who looked down at me in the don't said the rue and that kind of upbringing. Skulls a boy as you well know, I am a duck human being agenda. He's lived most of his life reviewing. In shout and Freida. Oh, I was always alright. That didn't win the League because. They didn't win a either. And the sound of Liverpool fans shouted dreams and full-throated yearning always drowned our or A. However, my brother, he was delirious last night. In the late point for me was when is some who's grown up going to watch Liverpool? He's fourteen said to me of waited my whole life for this whole life. Whole Life Now Day. What waiting your whole life feels like? Says this Everton, Fan I will admit. A touch of the Sundell, until I is last night. Not that. He's never a celebrating his. Don't like I. Don't like how this win will make money rain down on Liverpool Football Club Financial Times had an amazing piece tweeted out about what Liverpool were gained through glory. The club success will make you more likely will expand it stadium. Add to the hospitality add more big spending all of this bottom line. Just that money sponsorship money commercial many pouring into the club right now. That's GonNa make the next ten years Dove East. Even less fun, but I do love what it will do for my city, Liverpool that's simmering defiant and to me beautiful city in the nineteen eighty S. it was economically troubled, but the reds and the blues winning titles may did English football's capital, an intoxicating halo, the reinforce the uniqueness of the safety I established by the Beatles football. A music gave our town Liverpool a global recognition that other urban areas. You're Birmingham's you. Newcastle's and at the time Manchester. Couldn't possess Liverpool will do that again. In glory, even more say because the club or J mighty driver for the city, the Financial Times calculated that the reds contribute about four percent of the economic activity in Liverpool every year, so showing on city of Liverpool, shine on as for my brother. And all Liverpool Fans Yvette to wait at whole thirty years I can't deny them human happiness because I want that so deeply for myself for my own team, so I have to be happy for them when they experience it. Thank you especially to gop John. Green you in meet you say he hopes to have my empathy and kindness when quote? The twenty twenty seven premier league title under the Talismanic Leadership of Tony Hibbert Oh in Shah Allah as Tony Hip himself with say above all I'm happy for Trent Alexander on old. Gen who is made every single one of his footballing dreams come true. He's won the Champions League supercop club. World Cup and now. That coveted league title, and he's just twenty one years of age. and Best of all. Local that. Proper scouser grew up in west. Derby right by the Liverpool training ground. which he used to spend time walking around trying to find holes in the fence, so he could look through and a glimpse of his hair. Stephen Gerald Training. Stephen Girard the man who came so close to leading Liverpool to the promised land. Only two full I always. Never make it. How Harrowing Musab been for Trent Disease Hairy. The fanged defeated. Only pick up the battle. March glory to me that. Is Remarkable. And to do it all with your Boyhood Club football. Doesn't get any better than that humanly that. Is, the Hero's journey. The first time in Thirty Years Liverpool football club back, laughing perch. Position They'd once occupied by divine reut come close to reclaiming over the last three decades only to watch it slip away the mistake from livable's bacterial caps aid Stephen. And to your you can KLOPP. Applying is unrelenting gig pressing style of play. Nuanced Hook few management and dispatching life wisdom of the life wisdom. Make sure that you don't drink too much. Because otherwise we don't can't remember the party. Buoyed by this shoot, donate cab. The Cup started to roar a little louder believe a little more and regain its unique ability to set the ball into the net. Party in the front means nothing. If you know business at the back. The arrivals of calm as you like Dutchman, Mountain Virgil Van Dyke. And dashingly heroic goalkeeper Alison solidified the team spine. Allowing KLOPP's fullbacks translucent, Scottish one, the Ambi row, and born and bred scouser trend. Tell exam. They're all to burn up and down the flanks para polices dragons. Yet view embody the source of this t like hits, Captain Jordan Henderson. Summoning city that season, perpetually nipping at opponents hails. Bringing their heads. I, hated every single moment of watching Liverpool Return to glory. But as a football fan of human, being which about three percents of me, still as it's impossible not to take your cap to a team that's given the world so much to cheer lead time of.

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Caught Offside: LIVERPOOL ARE CHAMPIONS

Caught Offside

55:18 min | 4 months ago

Caught Offside: LIVERPOOL ARE CHAMPIONS

"The. Off Side. Jj to Vati. Own. All. Offside Ed. Who gumming? Very very justifiably getting. Jj Danny brother. Oh. My God Andrew. WHAT'S UP, Liverpool? Are Champions of England once again thirty years. I I'm like Jurgen KLOPP. I don't have the words I. I don't have the words. It's so unbelievable. It was a nightmare. You know. Just go to the Chelsea city game for a second. Let's let's start there. It's not that I didn't think Chelsea could could land a mortal blow to city they that they couldn't beat them. I wasn't emotionally ready for it to happen, and then in the last ten minutes as the dawning realization after the the William Penalty. Kick that this is happening so many things came flooding into my mind so many thoughts so many memories of the of the past two years And realization that I'm old. I remember the vast majority of those years since the last title I remember weather and. I I cry laughed. So I can get play the audio right now if you'd like. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, mean exactly well so my. You know it's the ninety nine, thousand, nine, hundred ninety six minutes and I realize it's happening. It's going to be confirmed tonight, and I'm just staring at the TV, and I start to feel like a lot of emotion welling open and I knew I was just going to scream. At the full time whistle what I didn't realize it was. My girlfriend was recording me. And this is this is kind of a hope. People can here okay. It's the one night we should be in the studio for imaging and I was GONNA. I was GONNA. Say to you I. Like. Obviously, all of this has been tough to not have been in the same studio doing this together, but this is. Not, even for the imaging. I WanNa hug you. I know this is the for you. This is the culmination of a life. You know. What is your life worth after this now, your? This is your moment. How many times have I board? People on the podcast by saying delete delete delete when someone Texan and goes. which would you prefer this year? The champions, league? ARDY FA Cup or the Watt. Delete, delete delete, but but here's how it sounded anyway, and you can hear. The Melissa Lewis Tones of our white in the background. You. Caught the end of the cry. Laugh there. It's the weirdest thing. I found it so funny and yet so like overwhelming, and then I called my dad who? I'm sure people who visited the podcast regularly realize. He became a soccer fan in his retirement years. I mean if you're tired almost twenty years now and. And so he became this obsessive Liverpool fans, describing that we shared and me and him are talking, and we're sharing and I can see his eyes to the screen. In the room that he's dealt, we're facetime talking on an and he's just focused. What's happening on Sky Sports? And then he asked me or do you want to go? No, you want to go rough. He rushed me off the phone and I don't blame him because it was that kind of night where you just wanted to drink it all in. Absolutely incredible Andrew I would say though that that ranks high on the list of bad moments in father son history. How about drinking it in with your son? For goodness sakes I need to have a talk with him. That is troubling I do think there was a little bit of sadness. I was supposed to be home the weekend of Liverpool. and. That was probably be going to be the confirming game for Liverpool and the trophy would have been lifted, and we're going to watch stacking together and that didn't happen because of Covid nineteen, so I think he was a little bit. This is great and everything, but you're not here. And I think that was a little bit part of A. Friend! My friend car mcdan-, who was A. We went to university to get around. A huge, an unbelievable football brand on a huge Liverpool Fan, and just to see his face. He's one of those friends you have whose faces frozen in time. He grows not old. He's like a hobbyist. He's he's. He's not like hot, but he had. Some Benjamin Button qualities. Yeah, he has an Asian in twenty years refuses to age to everyone's Chagrin but. Talking to him, he was just so pumped and elated and. And then I text my friend. My friend, Eric I tried to call him, but I couldn't get him, and he texts me back, and his words were his words were poignant Eric is a huge red irregular at Anfield. And he goes back during the bad days. We said we might see us ever win a league again. These are the days my friend. We need to get you me and core me back over again to Anfield for reunion. We had those conversations, Rhone two thousand and five thousand six. Even when we won the European Cup. Probably. The Middle Years With Bananas. When we every every season. We thought it would be our season. We didn't get any closer. But even before that before beneath landed certainly under Hooley, we had those conversations. It'll never happen. And now it has we see it. It's the funny thing about. I guess trying to reconcile this this three decade run for Liverpool because. Outside of the Liverpool bubble, which I am, and our listeners are soccer fans that aren't necessarily Liverpool fans I. Think it's hard for us to to capture that feeling that you guys are feeling because you had. It hasn't been necessarily tortured thirty years. You know you've won European. Cups of the most dramatic ones in the history of Yeah Champions League. You've won domestic trophies. So I think. There's you know. If you're not Liverpool fan that for whatever reason has has placed this trophy on a different pedestal than all these other trophies It's almost difficult for us to to kind of wrap our minds around the joy that you're feeling with this kind of tortured history narrative. Yeah, I think it's important to look at it in the context of and. Liverpool's Brandon ball her being winning championships. As the six times, champions of Europe. Winners I mean under who we did. The tribal we did UEFA call. We did the two domestic cups, but I think. The Brian Idea remember that interview. We played on the podcast once where he was asked. What would you like to win every year? The European culprit. The are the League and he said the League because of. Just because of what it? An Andrew Liverpool worn open till nine, thousand, nine, hundred, Liverpool ten out of the previous fifteen seasons right, and then nothing for thirty dot is studies a huge, huge and quite dramatic. Reversal of fortune and and Dominance in the domestic game dominance over Manchester United are close rival dominance in the nineteen eighties. Don't forget in the nineteen eighties Andrew the team. Everton were are challengers for the top of the table, so he had dot had dot rivalry in the city. So you've had these these constant tensions of. Always being top dog in the country and then not being being an irrelevance. I'm currently reading. Out of her case piece in the athletic where he breaks down this journey since nineteen ninety and some of the season's I've forgotten about. There was one season in March under PSUNENIS. Who took over from Kenny? Dalglish the last winning league manager. Andrew Day were three points off the relegation zone in March. I mean. Dick Logan. The bottom fell out of the club and suddenly were competing for cops. The Coca Cola. Cup, win ninety-five obviously, and then we went to the FA Cup final ninety-six, and then from ninety six onwards. I mean until until two thousand and one. It's incredible really On. The League meant everything and now we have a back. So before we go any further I. Just want to say that I. don't even really like it's funny. The Manchester City Chelsea match on its own was brilliant. That was. Certain, we've come back from this restarted. People have done nothing, but complain about Games. It's funny. We finally got a game that was really fun and enjoyable to watch especially for an American Fan, because Oh my God Christian Pulisic. It's happening like it's happening, but. Finally. We get this game. That was that was really really enjoyable. And I have no interest in talking about. This is an emergency podcast devoted Liverpool and the title that they just want so if you have anything specifically on the on the Manchester City, Chelsea match I would tell you either either get it out now. Or Save it the end because I really this from here on out i. just want to pull. Up absurdly fine I'm quite comfortable with that. I think I think the important thing to say is it was such a good game? In terms of telling us the story of Manchester City the devastating ability to do things like Kevin. Dubrow did and yet the complete meltdown defensively on a couple of occasions that allow Chelsea to win a game that Chelsea did have better chances, but that city otherwise could have won. In terms of the way they dominated the ball, and it was the microcosm of the season and. I think it will be remiss of us as you constantly remind me this is indeed an American podcast. Be Remiss not to at least hear the audio of the publicity goal. Scores his second. It was a massive. It was an incredibly huge goal kind of one of the defining goals on the season. He nearly had a second. I don't know how he didn't get a Kyle Walker with an incredible effort to keep that out. Maybe you would have liked to get a little bit more on it, but that's tough. You've just rounded the keeper. You put all that effort in a tough angle shot. Just trying to make sure you get it on frame, and some you know sometimes tip your hat to the defender Kyle. Walker made a brilliant play, but in the end it was not enough for Manchester City their title. Run as if. They had one this season. It comes to an end brilliant couple of years that they had and I'm sure they will reload, and they will give Liverpool everything that they possibly have. In years to come but as for the two thousand nineteen two, thousand twenty season. Yes, there flame is extinguished. Let's Talk Liverpool and So I KINDA WANNA? Go Big picture here with you. I don't even necessarily want to look at this season. Because let's be honest changing. We've been doing this podcast now. Since of the season since August and we've kind of since almost October we've coronated Liverpool as this year's league champions. So, we've been talking about it all throughout the season, so I wanna go bigger and I was just kind of scrolling through online i. haven't read anything down, but I was scrolling online, and just kind of like. In my own way as a non Liverpool Fan, getting being the style static about how they've gotten to this point. Obviously? You know much of this, even though there are players that predate him I think much of this begins with the appointment of Jurgen Klopp and I just wonder with this collection of players like like this team man for man. I don't know that they're better than Manchester. City, they're not but with this manager and his style, his connection to the players, even to the fan base. He just seems to get a little bit more out of each guy whether that's as you say emotional football, or if that's purely smarts i. mean I was reading What was at BBC BBC tonight? They had a whole article about your Klopp and the way utilizes his assistant coaches and the scouting department, and how Everything is just a well oiled machine there so it's not just emotion with him. He's a brilliant football mine and he's with that. He's hired other brilliant football minds to open and I and I. Just don't think that this collection of players could have won with this level of eats. I think it could have been still a title winning team, but to do it in record-breaking fashion as they're doing it. I think it's a testament to the manager to be able to get more out of the some of the parts than what you actually have here. I totally agree, and if you look at some of the key players over a few seasons like you said they predate the manager. I've seen players in their thirties under his coaching and his method. Get better. That's not as an incredible thing. He he brings him for being Yo as well had an next game and. We've almost forgotten. The scintillating performances ever put in yesterday against Southampton. No your house, but yeah excuse me, Crystal Palace sorry, sorry and You look you look at someone like venial player identification, which Michael Edwards of the backroom team should take a lot of credit for to, but it's amazing. Even, from the first game, you'll remember the first game in two thousand fifteen when he took over. From Brendan, Rodgers and it was. Tottenham, away, And the running stats how players were pressing running harder, he put his arms round. Adam Lallana when he was substituted in this great, embrace this hug. Thursday collectiveness. And collective will in the press, and in the way they play that I've I've never seen anything like it before on your right. His coaching methods the style of play his connection with the city. He has connected with the city and the past and the history of Liverpool. Football Club in a way that's meant the fans of Bawden. And he's being demanding demanded lots of his players. I mean. He said to Daniel Storage. You know you're going to have to feel some imagine you're going to have to feel some pain. You know you have to decide between which is too much. Pan On what is paying you can take. How many times have we seen that onfield? Particularly in the three o'clock kick-off were Liverpool been struggling struggling lagging, and he turns round to the crowd and he starts pumping. Lifton, his arms trying to get them going. He's such a charismatic figure. He's A. He's a leader and his method has. been taken aboard by every player I also think the identification of players has been accent Andrew. I'm not saying he's the perfect time at Liverpool but look at Alex, oxalate Chamberlain and look at my reaction to signing him this. This player, who hadn't even really established himself at Arsenal guaranteed starter their. Loads of promise and look at the contributions. He's got not players like him. When we signed genie, Alden from relegated. Newcastle. I was so underwhelmed. What look the running the physicality? The things? He can do Andy Robertson ten million from whole. This says being from top to bottom a project that he has left his mark on, and he has looked after every single part it even the way he talked two years ago prior to the Kiev, Champions League final, he talked about having Muslim players on the team how we deal with with the players who whose faith will of the Islamic faith how they turn up early two games for 'em Richon at the time for. Sada. Format. And he goes. No, no, this is a he goes this whole part of the collective of bringing everyone together for wound, 'cause missing like a simple thing, but how many managers would just think well? Look if we're all in this together. You know their religion doesn't matter, but that little thing makes such a difference. They arrived earlier, so the boy can say their prayers. Every base covered Andrew and. It's total togetherness and you see it. You see it with the club and you see it with the fan base. There's no question about that and I was thinking about something in the klopp era. It's funny man, because it's a game, not that I make fun of you four, but you know how we always have that kind of light fake little argument about the Liverpool Borussia Dortmund. Europa, league, what was it? The quarterfinal was a court. Right, and we always you know you said it was the biggest game of the day when Athletico Madrid Barcelona had just played a Champions League semi final, and to this day I still think wrong. Opinion, but but I will say this in terms of the soccer's bigger picture, but in terms of Liverpool's bigger picture I actually do believe that something happened that day. You know they're down four two on aggregate. Three twenty four minutes to go, and they pull it out and they find a way. And it felt like it was one of those moments where belief had been kind of re-instill within them that whatever the message was the KLOPP was pushing. It! It got through. And it felt like they became one of those teams that day that you just aren't going to count out no matter what the score no matter. How many times if they kind of hearkens back on that in this run sense obviously against Barcelona in the semifinal last year, Everton with the insane are- goal like. You. Know all these moments along the way they've had these moments where they've kind of had to call back to that. That initial Borussia Dortmund match the like look we're. We're Liverpool we're never out of a game that to me. It begins with caught. I I, I agree with you. That night was unbelievable. I'll never forget it and that was. That was his first half. Season are three quarters of season. Whatever you WANNA, call it. That wasn't his first full season at the club. It was he had just been jettisoned in, and he took this team to the Europa League final. Look at it even this season under. The Aston Villa, game. When we're, one nil down. At Aston Villa and we've had a goal chalked off from VR. and. Are we still creating chances half chances? Equalizing the, what was it? The eighty seventh and go on and win it later on like those are games were absolutely losing in the first year, maybe year, eighteen months thunderclap, and certainly were losing every time under Brendan Rodgers. But we kept doing the right thing and I also think the commitment to the style of play Andrew. We don't waiver. The way the team plays the press. The Virgil Van Dyke building from the back The commitment to getting the ball out wide to our fullbacks. We don't Liverpool. Don't stop doing the right things, and it bears fruit and. Yeah it's it's amazing. It's absolutely amazing you WANNA. Hear from European Club of course I. Think I think I should set this up so so all the Liverpool players were in a hotel and it appears as if KLOPP is in the same hotel in. Liverpool to watch this game and. KLOPP is there and he's. He's interviewed on Sky. Alongside Graham soon ask Kenny Dalglish and I. Think Phil Phil Thompson as well and. This is courtesy of Sky KLOPP talks for a few minutes. And then it's as if the weight of what's being achieved kind of washes over him, and it becomes too much. To be on a stem, I, it's such a big moment. I'm completely although. I never would have thought repealing. It's no idea and. It's just exhorting. Amsteel all the best. Congratulations congratulations yeah getting. Off It became too much for him and. I do think though Andrew he he. He understands. This sounds this is so cringing. Oh whatever we're in the moment for Everton fans, and for other friends, but I do think he understands the weight of responsibility. That Liverpool manager is. And, By the way I, think you can say that without feeling bad about like for example I despise the Dallas Cowboys in American football, but like I understand what the pressure is to have that job. I, think an Everton fan or a Tottenham Fan like myself understands that you know there is. There is the weight of history when you take that. De Decay lapse of the of the last. Grit Liverpool side under Kenny Dalglish who I was delighted for tonight. He was one of a few names that popped into my head. That I was just so pleased for that. This milestone has happened, and it's the the damage finally broken but the collapse of the Kennedys team. Andrew happens within a year of Hillsborough. And his loomed large both. In the families fight for justice and for the team. For years afterwards. and. Steve Nicholas talked about this as well how he was never the same player after Hillsborough a none of his team were, and they were in their late twenties going into their thirties. When that happened, so you can say hey. That was the natural end of this team, but it was accelerated choosy by Hillsborough and Kenny, Dalglish resigned. Because he couldn't take the wit, the burden of what had happened the grief, and the pressure, being Liverpool manager and I do think that that has been something that's been laid on every manager since including Brennan. Rogers including Roy Evans including Gerard Julia and Jurgen? KLOPP understood it and tonight he kept repeating how we the famous shankly Mantra, which is we play for you? Chang said I think it was after was Copeland see I'm not sure, but Shaklee said. To the Liverpool fans that it was an honor. For us to play for our players to play for you. And and KLOPP Harken back to that today. Understanding of Liberal, club, we do this for you. This is all for you, and that's a man in touch with the fans and the history of the club, so that's kind of. Our look at Klopp I wanNA talk a little bit about these actual players on this team. Because I was thinking also you know obviously the hiring klopp was a turning point in this not the Brennan Rogers didn't get them close. He certainly did but KLOPP was able to put the finishing touches on what may be he had started. But to me there's another turning point where the Liverpool story, even with KLOPP could have gone in a couple of different directions, and it was when Philip Cotino demanded to leave at least to me. This was a turning point I'll get your thoughts on it. You know it felt like Liverpool. We're building something. It felt like things were headed in a positive direction. and Katina was so pivotal. To that success, and for him to then kind of. I mean it seemed like a kind of happened out of nowhere now. Neymar left Barcelona so created this whole network Katina was looking to. Clarify he was looking goal, and he was making things uncomfortable. And then you know for him to leave, and for him to have been as important as he was to Liverpool gone like that could have set them back and I think people would have almost understood that because he was so important and it didn't. It kicked them on in a different direction and I feel like that's. It's not just down to KLOPP's management of his players and reassigning responsibility, but like you know roles change for me. No became sort of like the new playmaker like things were going to happen and attack to work through him. There was this faith that regardless how the fans felt about him until this season. Really, but you know Jordan Henderson was assigned more responsibility. And these guys answered the call, and you know it's not just then it's. Most solid was not. It was just not a heralded signing a you know he. He was coming off a good season in Syria, but I think people's minds were still fresh of kind of the disappointment that he was with Chelsea it wasn't. It wasn't supposed to be the move that turn them into European and league champions like it just wasn't that and I sometimes think you know with the emergence of Saudi-omani we'll talk about Van Dyke in a minute, because he to me is is a story unto himself but I really feel like a lot of this began with Cortina leaving, and then saw coming in and really just becoming. A finding a level that we didn't know that he had. We forgotten it a little bit Liverpool fans sometimes complain about him. He has these moments where he's frustrating, but we cannot downplay just how amazing of an acquisition he was I don't think. It's not I. Don't think they're not here. They're not at this level, if not for him, no and the foresight to see that as a as a triumvirate as a three upfront for that to work into Jell together. You make such a good point. I remember. When continuous sold. And didn't I. Remember saying to you, you said man what a blow and I said to you. You're right, but it doesn't feel like. It felt when Suarez left. It didn't feel like it felt when Tara's left. I felt we could find a way rounded I didn't realize for me would be as pivotal I didn't realize it operate as as number ten number nine And a salad salad hit the ground, running dots true, but you are so right. He had sixteen goals. And seven assists at role in a much wider position and we we couldn't have possibly it wasn't a heralded signing, but again like how crucial was that t to to to the story? We're talking about right now, I. Think as well. He find in a position towards the end of the eighteen nineteen season so last season for Jordan, Henderson that really worked in that kind of talked in advanced right hand position. I remember I think it was I against Chelsea that he there. I. What was the question? Just about how this gone a different way I could have gone a different. Oh, yeah, bringing it back to bring it back to the setting of. Of Continual did the D.. Two signings that were made Andrew were signings that. Were absolutely crucial from that money. And, we've seen with F. S G., and then we may see this again. Maybe we have already seen it with team Oh verner that they're very money cautious. They aren't going to spend beyond their means as much as you might say. Well Financial Fair play won't allow that. They're not going to go big, but so the casino money was parceled out between Allison. Virgil Van Dyke. and. I will freely admit as good as a I taught Virgil Van Dyke was good player I. Don't think I waxed lyrical about him on the podcast I said I'm John I. Don't think I talk that much when he was at Celtic, they had their homework done and they beat Manchester City. To Van Dyke. And I thought that was crucially important and to get a goalkeeper like allison, who shipped so many goals against you in the previous campaign in the Champions Z. Campaign get him in was crucial, and also they got allison, and for being. You'll quickly remember how quickly that was done between Kiev. Between the Champions League final in two thousand eighteen and started preseason. They've made. They've made crucial signings. The signings of being Alison. We've seen how absolutely important they've been, but you're right. If that money wasn't spent in the correct way, our if it was if it was banked, what if it was just put away for a rainy day? and. Liverpool were to carry on because don't forget. Center have been bought we. Ragnar Klavan had been bought for three point five million for the German from the German League, and I know he's only a backup, but he was still bought and played against Burnley in that early season game of Klopp second season, where things were bad and Laura's carries was bought for what five six million. So, there was a penny pinching I believe that was going on. And I think. Certainly would van dyke was brought in? And Dot summer after Kiev where they went after being got him and got allison that was those were real statements of intent, and those are signs. That Liverpool would not be where they are right now without them well, that's the thing that I give them. Credit for is because you're right. The Way Liverpool has operated. They are not. They are not going to behave even if they're. They're not going to behave like Manchester, city. Even Manchester United you. With the way that they have tendency to spend, even though Liverpool are certainly of that ilk as far as their prestige. They're just not going to behave that way. You know they're giving opportunities to like. You say they're. They're finding an anti Robertson. They're going looking from within for Trent. Alexander Arnold. You know they're willing to do those things Jordan Henderson was not you know super heralded back when he was brought into the side so. They'll do those things, but I give them credit because they recognized when it was time. Switch on. You know what I mean like. They knew okay. We're we're close here. You know we've done we've. We've gone about an our way. We haven't spent like crazy, but here we are. We're in a position now. We have the right manager and we have pieces in place now. It's time you know. Some clubs don't like there was. Hell I think Tottenham are kind of the example of that like felt like they were getting close, and they never quite switched on to make those moves that needed to be made to kick them to the next gear Liverpool, did it? It was clear as day. The goalkeeper is not good enough. It is getting in the way of accomplishing our goals out manulife. Carry US gone in decker. Best available are center central defence. Look at Arsenal. Arsenal were still choosing bring. who was a dentist Suarez like they're making. Like who I forget, who it was wasn't him. Remember now or Hayes? Peres something, but like arsenal are making moves up in attack when everyone? Is everyone with is and a brain can see that they need to fix their central defense, but they're spending money poorly. Liverpool saw no goalkeeping central defense. It's not good enough. It's getting in the way of achieving our goals. So what are they do? They spend the most money. They could possibly spend on a keeper, and the most that they could possibly spend on central defense. They were smart. They went about it in an intelligent way, and you know look, not my favorite club. But I have to wax poetic about them. Because here they are like I said. This is a record smashing season, and they did it the right way on Sunday identified. Look we've. They saw that first season with silo on unmanned for me. No identify. This is winning time now, so we need to add. We need to bolster. We need to do it now, I. mean. You talk all the time particularly in the modern game I don't think there's going to be dynasties like united. where, Alex Ferguson's GonNa win thirteen primarily trophies and X. amount of years. I'm not sure that's GonNa work anymore with the money that Manchester City have with the potential with the money that Chelsea even still have with the potential money. That's could come into Newcastle United. The game has changed. What sentence! Like just group Newcastle in. What where are we? What's going on? And why am I so confident? They'll even spend the money, right. But you get my point and and even even. Jurgen KLOPP said it. Jurgen KLOPP, said it. I've I of course I went back to I went back to his first press conference. Andrew and I got this little bit. Which is Hold on, let me pull it up of course I've lost it. I know I haven't here's his Jurgen Klopp in his first press conference kind of. Setting, his stall. A fee one. And if you repet- work for it if you want to feel patient enough all these things. If you put on that, we can start in a very. Difficult leak with opponents. They're bigger and bigger and bigger maybe. But in a special Liverpool way. We can be successful earth. But? We can wait for it of course but. I. Don't WanNa. Say We have to wait the next twenty years an absentee again I I know I've I'm sitting in for years I think we want one Thailand. I'm pretty sure if not. An won't maybe Switzerland Yeah. I'm not sure what he meant by maybe Switzerland. Was He going to go to Switzerland if they didn't win title within that four year period. I don't I. Don't have the answers to. But. That's a mind confident in in. It was a confident prediction. On Gem. It's funny listening back to that first press conference. He asked for patients. To be honest with you mean. He inherited what they were tenth I mean. I remember I think. He. He knew that this wasn't going to happen overnight and it didn't. I mean they got price where we tend home God. It's unbelievable. Look at your. Glowing Andrew I'm glowing. It was so funny. There's. Some truly bitter person on twitter. Who Said was it? Now who Doug Seventy a lovely message? Oh, good, lovely message, genuine fella! Now he's got I. Look forward to have more Everton convoys with them in the future. Dogs Not If dog angry tweets. It's from a place of passion, not a place of true bitterness, but this egg. Egg on Twitter A. Just randomly got in and most people have been lovely. And, he goes I. Suppose I suppose. Jj is tolerable for Liverpool Fan, and then just completely trashes the team. Let's just go through a dreadful there, so he said that this was the podcast he'd give. Swerve to or heat skipped this one. He's probably right. Oh, yeah no, don't listen. This will be insufferable I'd say ninety percent of you. But look. For tonight, though like this emergency podcast all right like this is. If you're tuning into this right now, it's because you're curious. Jj has been an unabashed Liverpool fan like we've made no secrets of who of where our loyalties lie like you can only be listening to this right now because you want to hear this guy react. This is a huge moment for you, did you? Feel so good. So. You you couldn't. Go to a bar or anything like you're. You're still within the confines of of a pandemic. Well. What happened? What happened was I had a beer in the house. And we're in phase whatever here in Brooklyn and soldiers outdoor restaurant, so we we wanted to meet a friend and do an outdoor socially distanced. Dinner which we did. And I did that and I I was floating on a cloud. They could have been saying whatever way. These. This wasn't a Liverpool. No one girlfriend and our friend Sarah and 'cause I knew we were doing this podcast, so I thought. I'd better eat something now. Set A COUPLA beers at dinner and I'm just floating all I'm thinking about is is what's happened and I'm dying to get back to the podcast so I said. I'm going to do the podcast on the Monroe. The report is buyer in Brooklyn which is down the street from me. Is Open in the constrained fashion that buyers are open these days, so I think I'm going to take a trip down after this and and have another few beers pick. That's a good idea. Just be careful. Where mask care about you know I am although you have the antibodies. Virus you're invincible. That is the wrong message to send. Everybody would lords I'm only kidding. Everyone know that is not the message we caution, and the the abundance of masks everywhere I wanna see my son, everything and everyone. But Yeah I'm I know I'm I'm in a weird place. Like when Liverpool won the two thousand and five champions, league, I went out, and I bought every single newspaper. And just so at all the back pages and I could read through it I'm probably going to do something like that. Tomorrow is going to be spent with a big Mogi coffee tomorrow morning, and just reading through online all the articles about how great we are. I mean if not now. When like this? This is the moment to do that. And by the way you know, we've made it almost forty minutes into this podcast without discussing. We've danced around the fact that there are records that they still have their eye on I believe that that will mean something to them. So the points record is well within reach. They have eighty six right now. One hundred is what they need to get to their on pace for one zero five. It would be I mean we'll see what KLOPP chooses to do. If he wants to play, younger players that. But I would. Seven Games Andrew I think. He's GonNa. Push on I. think that these I think that they want this to be a statement. The winds record is well within reach. They have twenty eight thirty. Two was what they need to get to. Both of those points and the winds record are from the seventeen eighteen Manchester City team home wins. They have sixteen. The record is eighteen away wins. They have twelve. The record is sixteen. And the points lead over second-place. The record is an is a nineteen point gap, which again was the seventeen eighteen man city team Liverpool are currently twenty three. That is again another record that I would expect a fall. Seven Games remain so they have clinched the title faster than any club has ever done Manchester City again in seventeen, eighteen and Manchester United in two thousand and two thousand one by any count. This is one of the, if not the most dominant seasons that we have seen in the primarily era and the fact that they. They have done it. in an era where Manchester City are financial giant. I. Think I mean. I re for anybody who wants to talk about you know the League being down this year. there are certain elements of truth to that I think the the middle was was much more than what we've been accustomed to in previous seasons, but I'm sorry. Manchester City are still Manchester City. And for the gap to be twenty three points right now like I don't want to hear anything about any kind of asterisks or anything like that. Any kind of knock against this Liverpool season. This team has proven beyond. Beyond any. Doubt that they are one of the most dominant clubs we've seen in the EPL era. Again I could only your words about Manchester City when you think of. The money available. To them and the fact that. Under pep Guardiola this whole project. Liverpool stopped a three peat. That is that is really kind of special and important, and the fact that I think you've got to look at this Liverpool season this season as a continuum of last season. Were they went as much as they possibly could toe to toe. What Manchester City lost. Oh! Boy, appoint went to the Champions League final one that comeback than. Dominate the season on reverse. I mean below the opposition over the water. It's it's staggering. I did not see I thought it'd be close I thought it'd be a real battle. I did not see it being like this Andrew. Just didn't you know I'm glad you brought that up about last season? Because I feel like I'm looking I was the champion of this narrative. The Liverpool luck narrative that you know Liverpool they just like Jeff Goldblum. Liverpool finds a way. And I would always say that there was this luck element to them, and it was nauseating. However I've been thinking more about that and. I can't think of many more things that are more unlucky really than what happened to Liverpool last season to have been as lights out brilliant as they were, and still not win the league. It must've. For for a club for a fan base that was so tortured by not having this domestic trophy that they've been craving for at that point twenty nine years. To have gotten to a point last season in terms of their point total that they would have won the league in what every single season, except for two of them yeah, I mean that that was that was a brutal blow to not have won the league last season, and for them to have Inouye been demoralized by it for them to a bowl been motivated to make sure that they whatever was going to happen this year. We're GONNA. Make sure that it's not close. We're not going to give anybody an opportunity to be with breathing room of us. I give them credit and you say it's hard to have dynasties I think maybe we need to reshape what our definition of the dynasty is correct But I think that I mean. They're still so young know Trent Alexander Arnold is on the verge of becoming a top five player in the world like it feels like he's. He's headed in that direction like why not? Why? Why should we not expect them to? At least be in the top? One, two or three of the next you know three four five seasons. Yes I think so I think. I do think though That can be made because this is such an incredible pace. Now look. You're expecting next season. That Nabi Kate is going to be even more comfortable. and. Hope! Hope an expectation is that he becomes the starter for the team. Minamino will feel more comfortable in his role. More comfortable will walk. KLOPP is asking office players, but I do think there space for improvement there always is, and if you look at if you look at the really good teams in the Premier League or the past. While I'M GONNA. Go with, said the PSORIATIC Ferguson era, you know foggies ability to look at a team, a no one to swap out of players, every season and get reinforcement, saying and get key players in I, know two different era right now, but I do think report will will probably have to do that, but you are right like when you look at Trent Alexander Arnold I haven't spoken enough about. You talk about look. I don't know if I want to put it down to look Liverpool. Have a good academy. Clearly, there's we saw last night Nico Williams probably coming into the full pretty soon, but it is look to happen upon. What might be an era defining player, a player who never mind era defining has said he feels he can redefine the fullback position. It's. Not, fair I mean he's not the. White. That's not that's not i. mean in terms of look at look at the assists from full-back. Look at the range of passing because the way he can change the point of attack. Look at the way he can set the tone from fullback. Incredible. We haven't spoken yet about Virgil van. Dyke. We should probably do that. I mean I was. I was kind of touching on. That would be idea of. You know everything that happened after casino and. That was like we with Becker, but certainly Van Dyke. That was kind of the missing piece. They were not good enough. They're loving. We had seen enough of him to. No, it's just not it's not going to happen with. This guy is one of the starting center hats for this club. And they know it and he's. Just say he's the best player on this team. I think it's it's tough to sign that that one position, but if you're going to be. In probably. In the top two. I mean it's for me. What I think, the best way to look at is imagine the team without him, can you? Really, not not on this point total not sell. Indigo I mean. I would also. Note, that Joe Gomez coming into the side last night, and filling in for my tip at centre half is an unbelievable luxury to have. He was quite magnificent last night as well and and clearly compla- in either one of the full-back positions are center by but back to Van Dyke. I think if? If you don't have him. He don't have this success. He saw outstanding. He saw dominance in an era, and you can pull the open this. Andrew in an era where I don't think there's that money dominant centrebacks he is being. Head and shoulders above everybody else. Yeah he's I mean he's clearly the best at that position in certainly in the league, maybe maybe in Europe and in that case you could probably say the world. He's very well might be the best centreback right now. I certainly think he is an also. It's not just about to defending. It's it's having a guy who can in this modern era be comfortable on the football. Pass it into midfield. Get things going I. Still one of my favorite moments from the KLOPP era is against Bayern Munich and just leathers one down the field I say. Floods this wonderful pass and puts it onto Saudi-omani a foot for the for that goal against against Munich in in the allience arena. Yeah? No He's a brilliant player. One of the last questions I wanted to ask you when whenever title is one, I'm always curious to hear from a fan of that team and ask like who are the statue. Guys you know like a title will get one and you'll. Put up a statue of like a certain icon from that team, but they're not putting statues up with everybody like who are who's the guy or the guys from this team that you go to Anfield and twenty five years, and you take your kids to the There's the blank statue we got. there. while. While, it's. He's going to be a premier league and European champion winning captain I. think that's I. Think Jordan Henderson might be as. He's the to I. Mean for me this. Team he's the aim. KLOPP is the statue guy I guess. If we had to assign a player, it would be Henderson for you. That is so difficult. That's. Because not that, you're right because. It's such a team. Has It really is? I mean we haven't spoken. Have we mentioned Robertson Yeah Yeah. We have Right, okay. Look at the full box while you're saying guy. No, but. A well, okay, so so an iconic guy who is a liverpudlian and who's committed this side? Dominated the site and left his mark on. This team is Trent Alexander Arnold. That's your guy. If you go if that's your statue guy if you're going for someone who is a icon of the city. But this is such a team that I almost think you need to spend. An awful lot of money on a lot of bronze, and hopefully not the guy that did the Renaldo Statue Oh. Brigham back. And you have some kind of group statue with these guys because like you said before, and this isn't actually a knock like. Name name name, a player in the Manchester City midfielder midfield. WHO's better? Than Jordan Henderson as an all round footballer. You can probably say Fernan Dino Debris, Anna. You know, but as you said, this is such a unit. A complete and total unit that I like this season Saudi-omani. How amazing has he being is unbelievable? You're right I. asked him you because I. Don't know to me. It's KLOPP, but like that's an easy. That's the easy way out. Because he's the manager. Well. Okay well, then I'll go, he's. Also not just like he's. He's a dominant figure. Your he's in a room. Everyone is aware he wants to be that guy. He is the leader. He's the face of this team and this era for them. He seemed very arithmetic yes. That's work I. he could be a cult leader. You would probably follow. Anything said right now, emotional football ocean football. Well I'll tell you what I. I've been a good friend to you. I'm going to go take a shower now for about an hour and a half and just bathed myself with Brillo. To to get because this is, this is as nauseatingly nice as I can get, but. Listen one of the strong points of this podcast. Last summer, think of exactly and think think of what we had to endure last summer Andrew. You know, mean I know. I was almost brought us even closer. I think it brought us closer. And I also think that it brought a lot of fans to the podcast as well that you know people who. May, have thought we were just these two. How would I put it? To guys and it was purely adversarial, and it was almost manufactured that we didn't like each other, and there was no, we loved each other, and we went to the Champions League final together. People think that. That's. That we've we've. That's awful. I don't want anyone to think that. People. Here's what else eighty right now. Next Time Liverpool wins title. You've learned your lesson. You'RE NOT GONNA call your. Dad next time I'll be your daddy. You call me all be Daddy. I'll say the things that you wanna hear. I'll make beautiful experience for you. We'll we'll hug through facetime. I think it'll be everything that you didn't get tonight from your real dead. No Mike my phone. He just kind of wanted to drink in the moment from Liverpool on on the television. How dare you? You'll never be my daddy? However you are. What you are morphing into is screech from saved by the Bell I hate my face right now i. Don't WanNa look at myself. and. I have this wedding coming up for my sister this weekend. My hair right now is a disaster I thought that it was going in a good place as he was. It's onto fair on things gone wrong. I'M GONNA go I'm GonNa Shave my beard now because as long as it's ever been. I don't know I. Don't know what to do with any of this. I can't get a haircut. You gotta get some You gotta get some product in that hair. Andrew, what's on? I, don't I don't know it's it's GonNa be. It's GonNa ruin the wedding. I'm afraid that it's GonNa. It's going to distract people because I'm the efficient. People are going to be distracted. They're going to be horrified My kids barely recognize me. They're afraid of me. You're right. It's everything you're saying is right. I don't know if. The way I would have gone. He was always clean shaven, although not maybe not later in life. Maybe it's. Maybe later in life screech I'm thinking about. Well I will say this was this was enjoyable. I enjoyed experiencing. Something, you've been waiting. You were alive for the last title. But how well do you actually remember? What were you six? I was seven years of age and I. Don't really remember it because that's summer of nineteen. Ninety was when I I. I really got into soccer as a young person watching. I told I told you before I didn't grow up in soccer household per. Se and Ireland went to the World Cup and that's what sucked me in so the following season the nineteen ninety-one season. Where everything went wrong Kenny left Arsenal won the league. That was my first kind of season creeping towards Liverpool. And then by nine, hundred, ninety, two I was paid up. Member of of the Liverpool Fan Club So. I don't properly remember eighty nine ninety, not really. Well! That, we experienced your first time together. That is. That is the creepiest way to leave at Daddy. But before we go Andrew. I was thinking maybe. Maybe, you could play this one at the wedding. Oh Yeah. Your sister could come down the down the aisle to that. You've earned. This will let this song take us out. Thank you man I appreciate it. Off. Three! Cuban listening. Offside soccer podcast cast. GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So, what are you waiting for your Goldfish to sing? BIZ AS CARMEN? ooh! ooh! There's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch. By October, seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details.

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LADS#137 - Saturday Special feat. Discord Channel Subscribers

Loud Americans Discussing Soccer

31:50 min | 1 year ago

LADS#137 - Saturday Special feat. Discord Channel Subscribers

"Hey, guys, happy Saturday doing something a little different today. We have a couple of people from our discord channel who wanted to give some opinions ask some questions, and we're lucky to have some people who wanted to join us. There's going to be a quick quickey. This is for you guys the fans if you wanna be on the show and a part of this. I think we're gonna start doing this once a month. I think it was a lot of fun, and it got to have some different opinions different voices and pretty cool. So here's a little bonus episode no ads this is ABC free. And you just get the hang out some dudes who like soccer and asking some Premier League s questions and other stuff we get off topic. It's pretty cool. So come hang out. And this is brought to you by overtime. That's the only at does it. No, no actual ads. Enjoy the show. Ooh. No, no. If you know. Thing. All right. Hey, we're listening to lads podcast. We have Bryan who is a fellow allowed the show Brian. How you doing doing? Well, how are you buddy? I'm doing all right, man. Just hanging out. Just got done doing a show of Martin just wanted to say thank you for calling envious guy. We've been trying to figure out the best way to do these type of things with fans of the show, and you know, actually quick question. How did you find out about us view lads? Right. You were you friends of Martin or something like that? So I would high school with Martin. And honestly, we had not kept in touch at all. And I don't remember how I heard about the show to be completely honest with you. But I heard he was doing it and give it a shot. And I haven't looked back and y'all actually definitely got me into Premier League this year for sure I'd never really followed it before. But now, it's you know, one of my favorite things to do. So I appreciate y'all. Oh, well, thank you so much, man. We appreciate you. And being a fellow lab. That's cool. Man. You actually you've bought one of our hoodies to one of the five to also like I that. That all the time. Do you can't go wrong? Not. Absolutely. Thank you. All right. So brian. What is your question today for the lads? Martin's not here. He's doing Karsh. It. I said before we started recording. But what what do you what do you got for us? Yes. So just kind of question interested, see your response. So if you if you had to pick a player from the bottom half of the table that you could kind of pick to put on your on your squad arsenal. Who would it be? And why? Ooh. That's a very good question. Let me I haven't checked the bottom of the table while. So I'm pulling that Uproxx quick who we have sit down here. Ooh. Okay. Well, I would probably pick someone from Fulham. Honestly, when you have Andrei Serwa, and you also have what's his name, Sarah? Yeah. Mitri they're they're sneaky not living up to expectations. I mean, they not to get off topic. But they I don't understand. I mean, they've got talent on that team. Yeah. I don't know. That's kind of a hard one. I do like Danny ward on Huddersfield pretty nice, you know, arming on Cardiff my bad and then hunters field. You know, I have a soft spot for them. Go terriers. I mean, they should have won the league. I think there's just some weird political bullshit. Kind of held a lag. There was there was some collusion. And I don't wanna talk about it. But if I were to pick someone from hunters, obviously, Aaron Moy, I just you know, I love a nice ball DO my team he six hour ease very curtain beginning of the season. He was crushing it, you know. So he just he also kind of fell off a cliff. Also like, Danny Williams. He's pretty nice. So that's oh, what's it called the one the midfielder Jonathan Hogg who gets a little playing time. He's good. I like I like a lot. So it wasn't really. He hasn't liked translated to wins. But, you know, sitting at you know, just three wins. So it's fine moral victories low, you know, exactly now. And that's what that's what really counts. Do you have any and you're a Chelsea fan? Correct. I am. Yeah. Unfortunately in the recent past now, it's okay. You guys still sitting up there sending six place in there. Now. Now, you're only a point off United and only three off arsenal. So how are you feeling? About this season. You feel good or is sorry going to make it the rest of the season. I think he'll make it. But I don't think he'll make it to the next transfer window. I mean, not like matters for Chelsea but band, but no, I I mean, I don't know. I think I the beginning season. I was all for you know, letting sorry do any needed to do. But I mean, his stubbornness is infuriating, and I just don't understand some of the decisions he's been making. So I hope that you know, Abramovich does what he needs to do to get rid of sorry yet. Either legal or extra legal means. Well, you know, those Russians they'll do anything. That's true. I think you know, Abramovich has been kind of weird. He's been very silent. He has really kind of taking a step back. So I'm not sure what he's going to do if he's gonna look this sorry project. You know, continue on the seems like there's going to be some type of exodus out of Chelsea with like has art. I've also heard rumors about the bully Kante is. Well, no, I heard that about real looking at them. Yeah. So I mean, I think Saddam obviously playing for his fellow Frenchman. So I mean, I think it will be very interesting to see I'm actually most curious about what's going to happen. The Chelsea over the summer because Abramovich has a man of very high standards. Either everything or bust, so yeah, I need. No. Yeah. Is there anything else Brian? You got anything else on your mind? Or are you enjoying this international break as much as we all are. No, no, it's terrible. I honestly though, I haven't been able to watch a whole lot lately 'cause work has been picking up. But I I I need it as a reprieve and when does next week he comes back. Yeah. Yeah. No Premier League this weekend. But the following. And then it says it's crunch time for one city. I feel like yesterday or like last week. We were like just starting the second half of the season. And now, we're almost we're what at thirty games already or close to it at least. Oh my God. Yeah. It's really like ramped up. I was like, oh, it's Christmas. And then it's like fucking here. We are. So exciting day was like last Tuesday. I think so. Yeah, I think that's how. So. Yeah, time thank you Bryant. It is. Brian. Thank you so much for being a part of the discord channel hanging out always supporting the show, and hopefully we do more these fan things. So people can ask questions other really good question. It threw me off guard. I had to like refresh my bottom my bottom half of the table memories. Keep you honest. Fucking toes. I gotta actually I know what I'm talking to now. So all right, Brian. Well, all right. I appreciate you too. All right. You are listening to lads podcast brought to you by the overtime network. I am joined by Logan Smith's Logan has been a longtime fellow lad, he's the one who actually created came up with the fucking idea for our discord channel. Where would you chat rooms where people talk about beer soccer, other sports, people were even fucking talking politics the other day, and I was like, well, I'm saying now this so Logan is also Liverpool fan. I should stay e is a diehard read a Scouser so Logan. How the hell are you? And thanks for coming on. I'm pretty good. And I appreciate it. Yeah. No, I p m Kevin or whoever MS mainly on the lads Twitter account. I think is probably you or added you or something it was like, hey, I don't know if you guys have set up, but this is a really idea to kind of connect people, and it's just a server where you can come online. There's different channels or whatever the you can just talk about a bunch of different shit to a bunch of guys who are really cool in really knowledgeable. About everything. They're just really good people. So it's just a good place to kind of interact with a lot of people in the community. And I thought it was a way to kind of bring people together in is going really well, and I I look at it as a pretty good decision yet. Now, I really appreciate I think we've got like almost thirty odd people who listen to the show and even they don't listen to show. It's all people who kind of all have similar interests over interested. Please join I sent out the link if you just message to one of the lads, you know, social media accounts ice up link all the time most people there. It's just like, hey, can I get the discord link and I'm like, yeah. Sure. Go ahead anytime so Logan. I gotta ask how you feel about Liverpool. Bud. You guys are back at the top of the table, obviously man's with a with a game in hand. But you know, are you feeling confident right now during this international break or you little like, you know, kind of in limbo just waiting for the Premier League games and start up next weekend. How you feel but I am pretty confident because like through the through the internet. Break we have a couple people playing pretty well, I know at time recording when now dome and Van Dyke both scored for the Netherlands, which is pretty good for us going forward. But I mean, we have it. We had a really stagnant fetch their religious really concerned lot the front three other the money has been kinda struggling last month or so and I personally pinpoint that down to one players short Henderson. He's been shit the past two months, and I don't like that. He's still playing past like two months, but you know, whatever it is. It's cops decision. I can get he's the captain see. But I think I saw sound Twitter that every single time Van Dyke spend the capital we've won every like it's not like, oh, we have we've won every game. So I would like Van Dyke to keep the captaincy in Henderson take a backseat Takeda, but I think city have a kind of rough schedule towards the rest of the year. I know they play United. I think that's a way as well. So that could easily be a loss. And I this is this is probably gonna come. Onto the final day. Honestly gonna be really tight really close. This is definitely shape enough to be a title for the ages at least the past couple of years where it's usually been a blow out at the end. So yeah, this is probably going to be the best title finish since Lester, probably since a Guerra. All right. God is still bring sound bite the rings in my fuck and head back to the Henderson comment. So would you rather have Kita or Fabio right there? Instead because I know you get yes. I'd rather have I feel like he's better creatively. Which is what we've kind of been lacking we were to get secure in the summer. But I think there's something wrong with the injury or he was it was questionable it with his injury. Reagan ads on he was fit for the physical. So we ended up not signing him. I wish we did. Because he's been really good for Leon so far this year. But yeah, we just don't have a lot of creativity in the midfield right now. And Henderson is only making it worse because Kate is our most creative midfielder right now, which you know, isn't the best because he's not super graded et create. He's really good dribbler, and you really good with ball progression on his with his feet and stuff like that. And other other half ended Henderson, but I think club is kind of coming around to that Henderson has been in and out of the line of the past couple couple of weeks. But yeah, also I win. Against Byron three one away. Definitely going to help us out to the rest of the season going to give us a lot of confidence going for. Yes. Definitely going to be giving you the motivation. You know, that's a great win to come off of essentially, I can Munich which again like I was getting like I've mentioned this in the pod. I was getting upset of people saying like, you know, they should just tank in the Champions League and focus on the Premier League. And I just think that's just a stupid thing to say. Yeah. Try try and fight for everything why not win. Both. Why not you know, if you get knocked out of one that's kind of like, you know, the what's the word. I'm looking for the meaning not. So you're going to be beat up about it. You know? I mean, the exit. Yeah. I mean, it I think it's a dumb and tally. I mean, I can understand why people would say that is all you gotta try to be fit. And all, but I mean, they space out the games. Really? Well, it sounds like you're playing Champions League on Tuesday after playing in like Monday night football game. They space it out. Really? Well, so it wouldn't be finished this you. I I didn't understand it. Either. And plus, you know, of you could why the hell not try to go for a double. I mean shit. That's what city are doing there. They kicked they beat the hell out of at like six or seven nil. So we'll talk he will talk about momentum that is some hell of strong momentum. But yet it's gonna come down to the final day, man. The probably is I I wish I wish. Martin was here. So I could beg him to will mend United to win. But I know you're kind of stuck an a hard place now because you gotta root for United. Don't you like, I'm not? I mean, I've only been supporting I've only been really falling football side the past two years two and a half years or so so I've added to finally get since a kid. So I'm not like deeply embedded in legs, Manchester United hatred that like a lot of Liverpool fans are, but I mean, I definitely I mean, I I'm slightly rooting for them because I really hate Jose media as a person he's kind of a dick and watching the team completely turn around with all as been really entertaining. But yeah. For the most part, I usually don't root for Manchester United. But at that game. I definitely will. All right. Well, you know, it's interesting. That's a good take, you know, just root for your the best outcome for your team to would be United down on city. So it just just being the shit said. So what do you think what's going on with HAMAs Salah like he's had, you know, not the worst form? But definitely not the best. Especially what we saw last season. What do you think's going on with him? He seems a little tentative if that's the best word. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's actually going through a rough patch. I mean, he was up there in top of the league scoring. But I think a lot of the reason was is under Arnold's injury. He's behind him. He's he gets really really far forward in place right behind Saleh, which allows them to kind of play more in. And then whenever he was heard and Milner was playing right back for a while. We had a we lack the lot of creativity going down there. Right. Flank and solid kind of suffers from that. And he has a really balanced back with Trent back in the lineup yet on the. Luckily, Monty has been carrying us through these goals recently. I think he's scored like seven in his last seven or scored in assistant. So he's been going off. I think just having a rough patch. He's definitely proven this season. Even though he hasn't eased on top of the top of the charts. He's definitely NADA. When she's a wonder the season was still pretty good. It wasn't last season. By any means is that was impossible to duplicate it still been a good season. Each is. I I have confidence he'll be able to turn it around for last month and a half of the season, two months. Yeah. I definitely think the criticism have been has been way too harsh. I mean, 'cause they're all they're doing is comparing it the last season, and you cannot put a hole in last season in Mohammed Salah at all. So now people are saying like the fuck and roof is crumbling. It's like no like how will that was an unreal individual season by an unreal player. So I think I definitely agree like in. Luckily money like, you said has been on absolute fire that being in not be fucking stopped. I just love watching him play so much because you know, he's probably going to school where he's been scoring only goals but fantastic goals. Yeah. He's just his play styles. Really entertaining because he's liked whenever he going. It's one hundred percent when he's making runs doing dribbles things like that. He just goes such a such a just like a ferocious pace constantly always attacking that goal against Byron. Where he where he dummied pass the Golian than flicked it on. That was just perfect any scored a brace against into. So he definitely. Helped us there in the last month or so if it wasn't for him this. I don't think this hour race would even be the upper bay. I think city would pull away by six seventy points by now if it wasn't for him. All right. I got a quick question for you. Logan. I just tweeted at Alexi Lalas. He just is going to be in New York City this weekend. I'm going to be in New York City. I said thoughts on an interview this week. And when I'm in Manhattan, so what do you what what what are the chances? He responded says. Yes. To say if brace off of previous interaction, you guys have had on Twitter on the U or that's Martin. But I'm gonna proc- probably not. I mean, never say never. But I, you know, it's it's basically the scene a dumb dumb roots gets a one in a million chance will you're saying. There's a chance is saying is chant because there is at the end of the day. There is still a chance I don't big one. But I mean, if you did that would be crazy for the cloud, dude. Fernan brand brother be saying the brand would be fucking boom in. I would just like, you know, it'd probably just be meek Morton's out of North Carolina at least so funny. I would just have to do a ton. And plus I'm hanging out with this girl up this week up there and a bunch of friends. So I'd be like, I'm sorry. This is this might be my this might be it for me like stevia. Stevia? Like, I'm like, it's cool with like, you're cool hall. But this is this is this is the Lexi Lalas. Yeah. That was nice home of rag, by the way you in. You're saying girl hand. By the way. Hey grads on the sex, right? But I think what's it called. So how how are you doing with his international break? Have you been enjoying have? You watched any games? Not really, it's it's hard to watch international games. At least in America. It's not the easiest thing in the world of duly offered. Me, you know, because sometimes NBC has like, you know, they have a lot of primarily games on NBC and stuff, but irrational games. It's hard. I want try lights itself. But I live in watching a lot of college basketball. So luckily, luckily is international break falls perfectly in between March madness police like the first couple of days so held out. I have a question for you, though. Do you think arsenal will make it into the top four with Hannah Chelsea Chelsea being really poor towards the back into the season in the United has been really on form. And I have really been on that great form recently either. Do you think you guys can might be able to pick it up and sneak Champions League spot? I my only hope that arsenal makes the top four. Is if Tottenham keeps bottling it that is my only hope because if tonic he's being taught him. Yeah. Yes. Which you know, it's been known to happen can happen. Yeah. And and United to they've kind of did a little bit in easily. You know, they exploded beat PS. Gee, I watched that game was incredible. I'm never gonna create that. Oh my God. And now, it's kinda you know, now that seems it seems like the high is dumb down a little bit. They're going back to, you know, not like supernova level. So I think it would be obviously, the Champions League money would be really good for you guys as well. Not be able to. Will release out release reportedly Nabi signing players. Did you guys need some defenders pretty badly? Pretty that's that's the you know, definitely on the buying list. Yeah. If STAN Kroenke does anything, right? He will get you defend her and not be. Yeah, by yes. Or or or anybody that's not in in their thirties. Like, you know, towards the like the talented occurs again. No, let's just ignore the print do great year. I was just gonna say the guy's just to focus with this guy. Damn LA Rams already signing tons of players. So we'll see they signed a boat. Blake Bortles they did. And also this name the guy from the Packers longhair. What's his name? Oh clay Matthews now, they sent him to God damn they're going to be like just celebrity Dow, but I think if Tana keeps 'cause I think United did take a step back. But I don't think like people were freaking out about it. They have backed back losses. I think United still fine. I really think it's gonna come down. If Tottenham keeps up their poor form. I really think it's going to be Tottenham United in the final top four. And there's an arsenal. Just trying to be honest like because I'm just like like, I think we can in other weeks. I'm like now, there's no fucking way. Yeah. But I think you say say Chelsea done. They fin crappo Danny money. They they'd over. I'm I I know you talked to Brandon I think he's the Chelsea fan or Brian. And that was probably a fun conversation. Dislike man, this is really shit because it's funny like Chelsea were really really good. I think they're undefeated like I twelve games than people realize that hey, we should kind of stick. Somebody on Georgina Lola time and everything just went to shit after. Equate these five yard passes aren't working is. I is I here. Yes. I yeah. It's like, wait a minute. We should we should press. Georgina and make it to where he can't just pass freely behind him all the time and average ninety passes where eighty percent of them or backwards. Like, okay. Yeah. Let's just do that. Then they have been awful since then. Yeah. He just falls over like a wet sandwich. It's not even funny. Like, you just like, you know, becomes absolutely useless. If you put any type of pressure on but. I just wanted to say thank you so much coming on the podcast. Thank you for creating discord channels. So other people who are like other fellow lads can't come in chat. Shit talk about beer talk about soccer talk about anything really anything you want. And there's all kind of like the same kind of niche clicky kind of people so Logan again so much. I appreciate you coming on the show. That's so from anytime you have you guys wanted just PM the labs on this quarter animation. You know, cavern whoever be happy to give you guys Lincoln. Yeah. I three shake guys. Give me the chance to come on. I'd love to go on for full pond. With Martin one point man is I feel like it'd be a lot of fun going back and forth. United Liverpool banner. Fuck. Yeah. We should do that soon. I got I'm trying to do more stuff with more people, and it's just like difficult because I like, you know, how like other podcasts will have voicemails and had like a burner foam. And then I'll be like do I have to go. I have burner phone, then how do I get those voicemails offer there? And then like, you know, fuck. The whole shebang is easier. Just have somebody come on special guests on Skype. So let's plan something like that. I'll be I'll be slipping in your DM's dog and go, man. Now will be having you on. But hey, go Liverpool and thanks again for coming on the next time. Appreciate all right guys. You are listening to last podcast. I am joined by Jason Levin might end last name. Right. Yep. Cool. So Jason is a fellow lad as well. He is the cunning stunt AK, Kevin stepdad. So it's great to have you on dad. How you doing? It's a great to talk to you soon. But you you need to call your mother, she's worried sick. I know Shannon, is a, you know, an angel and I have been neglecting my duty as a son. So thank you for reminding me dad, but Jason is a Manchester United fan who I'm very glad Martin's not on here. So you guys can gang up on me. It's fine. You know, little, you know, gang plays, always fine. Anyway, Jason what do you have? You got any questions again opinion. You hold him when he would laid out for everyone at home. So I've got a question, but I need to preface it with their really two methods of bottling the title, the Tottenham method, and the Liverpool method all the Tottenham method essentially boils down to everyone knows you are never going to really winless Heidel. And you don't really have a lead in the title when you blow it and Liverpool. You've got a size of a lead, and you just absolutely bottle it. So my question. What's really worse for the fans? Oh. I would have to say definitely Liverpool. I mean Todd it's like you're already going in with the mindset like now like we're not gonna go and win it where I feel like Liverpool is more like, you know, we had this. We had such a substantial lead, and you just have this mentality. Like, it's going to be one of those like last day things we're Thailand, it was like it was kind of cute. You know what I'm saying? What about you? What do you think? I mean, it's hard for me to relate as a Manchester United fan. I'm sure yeah. Whatever it's fine gone. I'd have to go with Liverpool. Just because it's it's a bit more crushing like, it's kind of cute when Tottenham fans get their hopes up. But they know they were never really gonna win it but Liverpool they they have their success. And they think. This year is our year. Finally after twenty five years of next year is our year. So I say it's just more crushing for Liverpool fans. But I gotta say I really hope they don't win it this year because of my phantom, and because they will be talking about it for the next twenty years. Like they are now about the previous title. No. I think the Tottenham one is just more of just like the normal like melancholic like depression that you get from being a Tottenham fan. We're Liverpool is more like aspiring in like they have so much history and trophies delaying lake, you know, rely on that this one would be way more crushing would send you even like you'll be rounding up some Jack Daniel's or some Tullamore do after they blow it which will let me let me transition of this. Do you think they Liverpool does blow it and as a Manchester United fan? Are you fine seeing city go back to back? The first club the do that. And I believe since you since United to that. So are you going to be more? How are you feeling? Do you think like which one would be more upsetting for you? So a couple of months ago. I was definitely worried that Liverpool. We're gonna win it. But I think with the there's there's a there's a coaching gap here. Klopp is a great coach but pep is world class. Just always has these masterclass tactical performances, and I think cities just got more quality. So I think cities going to end up winning it. It might even be on the last day with another Aguayo scream by the commentators. But I I mean, it's hard for me to see city win it back to back. But anyone but Liverpool? Yeah. I guess so you know for new fans of United. I was talking to some people and they're like, yeah. I don't really get why there's so much, LeRoy. But you know, you just have to go back into see those battles back in the early two thousand I mean, even just throughout the two thousand and just the long history of just pure hate of between these two northern powerhouses below let me transition to this. What do you think about this new soak shore regime, like are you you must be infatuated with it? Aren't you? Absolutely. And I think even if he was having similar results as Marino. I think it would be different because sold love legend. It would be more happy. He's this club legend, and he's got this mythos about him that he brings to the club and the happiness he brings to not only the fans, but the players and the staff at the club. Yeah. I just feel like there's just such a better vibe, you know, like everyone's just like especially pug by you can see by his body language. Everyone else's by language is seems like everyone's having a good time. And you're not, and I said the Morton I saw some United fans like, you know, or you say the roof is crumbling because you had back to back losses. But I said this last night either to Logan or in the potty. I can't remember everything is just fucking blurring together. But I still think United makes top four and do you agree? I I do think they're gonna make top four at the expense of Tottenham. I think Tottenham is going to drop out. Do you do you? Hey, do you think arsenal? Hobson there to police say, yes. Please say, yes, please. Yes. I do because there's no way. Sorry ball is gonna pay off. Yeah. That is we're talking to Brian who was a Chelsea fan in, you know, he just said like, oh, yeah. Team cigarette out just stopped Jorgihno. And it was like, yeah. The guys kind of a wet sandwich. So there's not much you can do for you. Just keep passing the ball five yards there and back, but how Jay's now you've been dealing with this international break, you surviving. Fairly barely. I I kinda hate the international breaks because I I don't really care that much. That's fair. It's like not important qualifiers for the US. I like England to after living there. But it it just brings injuries to guide think Lukaku pulled out of international duty with an injury same with Radford and PA which is just wonderful that three of our best players got injured in games that I don't fucking care about. But at least I've got March madness. Yeah. Who you root for bud? I I'm rooting for my bracket. So I guess UNC your Ruben for my Bracken. I'll fuck link pick a team come on. Don't be bracket guy. Okay. I'm rooting for North Carolina honor of Martin and do because there you might team north western is not in the tournament this year after they got screwed by the rest last year. Yeah. The Virginia Military institute just barely didn't get into the you know, the the March madness. So I'm rooting for Villanova just for Philly and whatnot. So, you know, so here, we're all we're we're all like root for something blue teams here. But all right. Jason. Is there anything else everything else on your mind before? I let you go. I mean, this has been a real pleasure to have you Logan and all these guys on again. Yeah. Just stick a dollar Bill and Martin's g-string for me. I know that's where he actually is. I will you know, the guys got. Hey, don't you. You said that with a bad, you know, tone. Have you guys got to work, you know? So I'm all in support of nail stripping. I did that in my younger days. I mean, who is did you see magic Mike seems to be great seems to be a great profession. I haven't seen it. But apparently, it's like, you know, it's not on my like, you know, recently rented or anything. I mean, I haven't seen magic Mike, but I've also been out of the strip and game ever since Adam Johnson went to prison who actually. Yeah, that's a. Sorry. Those fucking good. Yeah. You know, thoughts and prayers some very sorry. All right. Jason. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate you being a fellow Ladd and a part of our discount channel. And you have a great day. Thank you again.

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Notes App and Sports Rivalries

The Anthropocene Reviewed

22:49 min | 1 year ago

Notes App and Sports Rivalries

"Hello and welcome to the anthroposophic reviewed a podcast where we review different facets of the human centered third planet on a five star scale. My Name's John Green and today I'll be reviewing the notes APP for iphones and the strange phenomenon of sports sports rivalries but let's begin with the notes APP which debuted you'd with the first iphone in two thousand seven back then. The APPS default font looked vaguely handwriting. E and had a yellow background with horizontal lines between each row of text. An attempt to call to mind the ubiquitous yellow legal pads used for note taking even now now the notes APP has a slightly textured background that mimics paper an example of what's called skill more fix design where a derivative object say. An APP APP retains now obsolete elements of the original objects design casino slot machines for instance. No longer need portable arm but most still have one and many apps you skew a more vic design. Our calculator APPs are calculator shaped our digital. Watches have minute an our hands. Perhaps all of this is done in the hopes that we won't notice just how quickly everything is changing her For most of my life I took notes in the margins of whatever book I happen to be reading. I've never been the kind of person to carry a notebook around. I want to be a person who journals who sits on park. Benches has wonderful thoughts. That must be immediately captured. But I usually found found that my thoughts could wait and for some reason they couldn't. I always had a book with me and depend in my pocket. There are grocery lists in my copy of Song of Solomon and directions to my great aunt's house in the amazing adventures of Cavalier and clay on page two hundred forty one of all the king's men. Then I wrote at the bottom of the page. It rains for two days straight an idea I had for the plot of my first novel looking for Alaska. There are many other references to my stories in books. I was reading. Sometimes it's only a few words. pheromone hog hunt scrawled in the margins of our our southern highlands became part of the climactic scene in my book and abundance of Catherine's but when I read those old books most of my margin Alia. Oh you're just baffles me like why on page eighty four of my copy of Jane Eyre did I write. You have never been so lonely Louis. was I even the U.. Of that sentence the notes depend on a context. I now lack. They imagined I would remember the goings on of my daily life. While I was reading Jane Eyre in college when in fact all I remember. Is Jane herself. How Rochester Chester called her? My sympathy how Jane said the way to avoid hell with quote to keep in good health and not die. I don't remember water. I was lonely or even if I was these days. Of course. A lot of reading happens on e-readers peters and phones and laptops and I almost never have a pen in my pocket but the problem having neither pen or paper with both caused ause D- And solved by the iphone. It occurs to me. The technology often brags about solving the problems it caused but at any rate the moment I acquired deny phone in late two thousand seven I had a note taking device with me all the time. Not that my notes became any more comprehensible. Why for for instance did I write in twenty eleven? They're painting the ceiling of the Rights Museum. Were they painting the ceiling of the Rights Museum or did I think that was a good good wine for a story. I have no idea but I can still parse some of the notes and taken together. They do form a strange range. Kind of autobiography away into knowing myself through the Lens of what I cared about so here at the end of the twenty teens. I'd I'd like to share with you. One note I wrote into the notes APP from each year of this low dishonest Decade Twenty Nineteen Gene Send Sarah Donald Hall quote. My friend Kava had recently shared with me. An Essay called the third thing which Donald Hall wrote after the death of his wife. The poet Jane Kenyon quote. We did not spend our days gazing into each other's eyes. We did that gazing when we made love or when one one of US was in trouble but most of the time are gazes met and entwined as they looked at a third thing. Third things are essential two marriages objects or practices or habits or arts or institutions or games or human beings that provide a site of joint rapture capture or contentment. Each member of a couple is separate the two come together in double attention for Sarah in me third Things include our children the Sunday New York Times Crossword an art and I wanted to tell her about this essay and acknowledge and celebrate our third things things. But I don't know if I ever actually sent it to her things in the notes APP have a way of not getting done twenty eighteen discontinuity of tents perspective hallmark of your time. I have no idea what those words mean but there they are typed by me in March of twenty eighteen with no further context 2017. Driving alone at night is heartbreak without the agony. I had this. I thought while driving alone at night and then I pulled over to write it down which ruined the feeling twenty sixteen no bright line between imagination and memory according to my Google calendar. When I wrote this I was at the home of my best friends? Chris and Marina. I suspect Sarah Probably said version of that line in conversation and then I stole it. At any rate it ended up in my book turtles all the way down which is about a kid who is constantly remembering what she imagined and imagining what she remembers. Twenty fifteen this bar has lights everywhere. But you can't see anybody's face one of the times a most likely to use the notes APP is when I'm uncomfortable in a social social situation. I often feel like I can't properly participate in conversation because everything I say and here has to be filtered through the Siv Steve of my anxiety and so by the time I understand what someone has just said to me and how I ought to respond my laughter or whatever seems weirdly weirdly delayed the fact that I know this will happen makes my anxiety worse which in turn makes the problem worse but I sometimes deal with this by constructing instructing myself not as part of great conversations but instead as a chronicler of them. This bar has lights everywhere. But you can't see anybody's face is something a movie stars. Publicist said to my publicist at the bar of the Ritz Carlton in Cleveland Ohio. I liked the line a lot and I'll probably try to use it in a novel. Some Day two thousand fourteen. Strawberry Hill is not the luxury the alcohol experience. I remember it being. I wrote this after I had a bottle of Strawberry Hill. A kind of wine. I do not recommend two thousand. Thirteen fire fights fire. This phrase must have mattered to me because I wrote it three separate times in the notes APP in two thousand thirteen but I have absolutely no idea what it meant. It's a small reminder. Now that memory is not so much a camera camera as a filter. The particular it's it holds onto are nothing compared to what leaks through twenty twelve. Only line meant literally one day. I was at Church and the Gospel reading included. Matthew Nineteen Twenty Four. which goes again I tell you? It is easier era for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for rich man to enter the Kingdom of God and the minister said that people take every line of the Bible. I bitterly except for that one. When it is the only line that is meant literally twenty seven it? It was kind of a beautiful day. Only save a sentence this one. I remember quite vividly because I was a sobbing mess when I wrote it. I'd spent almost a year working on a novel about six high school. Students who end up stranded on a desert island. I was stuck with the story so I decided to take a couple weeks away from it and then read it and when I went back with clear is I found absolutely nothing. No Heart No wit no joy it had to be scrapped except for that one sentence it was kind of a beautiful day I spent a year. You're my life for those seven words still like that sentence though it ended up in the fault in our stars two thousand ten her eyes on his is on. I assume this note was written when I noticed the pun inside a lyric from my favorite favored banned the mountain goats. Their Song Jenny is about a girl in love with a boy who has just acquired a yellow and black Kawasaki Motorcycle and one of the songs couplets goes and you pointed your headlamp toward the horizon. We were the one thing in the galaxy. God didn't have his eyes on. I don't know why but that line always reminds me of being in eleventh grade lying in the middle of an open field with three friends. I loved ferociously drinking more more malt liquor and staring up at the night sky being the one thing in the galaxy. God didn't have his eyes on gets a solid five stars But as for the notes APP three and a half after through the break we'll turn our attention to football rivalries but I the anthem brassinne reviewed is supported by policy genius. Did you know that the cold Kim brace of death is coming for you. It's true and this is the season to elect benefits through your workplace. Most people know open enrollment as decision time for healthcare coverage. But it's also the perfect moment to reassess your life insurance needs policy. Genius is the easy way to shop for Life Insurance Plan. That's not tied to your job in minutes. You can compare quotes from top insurers to find your best price once you apply the policy. Let's see genius. Team will handle all the paperwork and red tape and the life insurance you buy through policy genius stays with you even if you leave your job look. Your death is is going to be a catastrophe but try to make it only a catastrophe for you policy. Genius the easy way to compare and buy life insurance prince years ago after our second child was born I decided to get a vasectomy usually simple procedure that would render me sterile. We knew we didn't want more kids and the Secta me seemed like the best solution. which is how I ended up visiting a hearty looking middle aged doctor in downtown Indianapolis for a pre procedure consultation when we talked about the Me and his extensive experience with them. He seemed like a competent professional. And I had been told he was the best vasectomy specialist surest in town so I was more or less sold when as the conversation was wrapping up. The doctor asked me if I was John Green the novelist and I said I was and then he said you tweet a lot about soccer. You're a Liverpool Fan right and I said I was and he said when I lived lived in London I became a big fan of Manchester United and I told him that nobody was perfect and he said that's just what I was thinking about you and and then we both laughed a little uncomfortably. And I chose someone else to do my vasectomy. I simply could not bear the thought of being being rendered infertile by a Manchester United Supporter. I know it's stupid and irrational and that sports don't matter and that I don't live in Liverpool anyway a but I have been a Liverpool fan for most of my life and I'll be damned if I'm GONNA pay a self identifying red devil to press a scalpel against my testes. He's what's beautiful about. Football is how it brings people together. How a shared love of a team can overcome all all other barriers? Like I don't particularly like shaking the hands of strangers let alone hugging them but a few months ago I found myself in a bar in New York works city just after Liverpool won the European Championship and a stranger grabbed hold of me and pulled me into an embrace and after a moment I noticed noticed. He was weeping on my shoulder and I didn't know why he was crying until I discovered that I was also crying a few months before that I was in Sierra Leone talking with a young man about football and although we lived far away from each other and did not share much much in the way of language we found a way to tell each other where we were in two thousand five when Liverpool when the Champions League and we found a way to sing the praises. This is of Liverpool's star Mohamed Salah. I've had similar conversations from Hollywood to Indianapolis whenever I meet a Liverpool Fan and we don't need to know each other to be friendly with each other because we share a third thing Look at their best team sports. Whether you're on the field or in the stands Are about being together about celebrating together and grieving together and playing together at the beginning and end of every game. Our fans sing. You'll never walk alone. A show tune from the musical carousel. That was refashioned into a pop song by Gerry and the pacemakers. It's only to be refashioned again into a him by Liverpool fans walk on walk on with hope in your heart and you'll never walk alone goes the chorus. I need to feel an alone to make it through this veil of tears and Liverpool. Who helps me but we are not only bound together by a shared sense of what we love? We are also joined joined by what we revival. And what we revile most is Manchester United. There's a famous line. Often attributed probably the incorrectly to Genghis Khan that quote. The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies to drive them before him to take from them. I'm all they possess to see those. They love in tears to ride their horses and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms that is a viable l.. Way To conceive of joy fueled by the hatred that has given us the darkest days in the history of our species and I want nothing thing to do with it. I am disgusted by the notion that life knows. No greater joy than to see one's enemies lay dead before you and yet that is part of the human story not just the human story actually but also Mike Hi Human Story. Melinda Gates has written every society says it's outsiders are the problem but the outsiders are not the problem. The urge to create outsiders is the problem. I've seen how my own religious tradition has created and demonized outsiders to solidify the power and connectedness of insiders. And I've seen the same thing in internet communities and Music Phantoms and I have certainly seen it in football phantoms news including my own. I've often asked myself if I can love river pool without hating Manchester United and the answer I come back act two again and again is maybe someday but not. Today I'm reminded of Saint Augustine's magnificent prayer her lowered make me chaste but not yet one of the defenses I see for rivalries is that they're healthy or that they sublimate our desires to break up into tribes and kill each other. But it's astonishing to me how quickly especially in a group setting harmless ribbing can turn into dehumanisation. We're at Manchester. United fans are always singing back and forth forth to each other harmless and humorous cruelty. But there's also much else going on ninety. Six fans died in a human crush at Hillsborough or a stadium in nineteen eighty nine which was caused by grossly negligent failures by police. But the Rupert Murdoch owned Sun newspaper ran a series of false stories claiming that the hillsborough disaster had been caused by drunken Liverpool fans and even accusing those fans of robbing the dead. Which is why the Sun newspaper is still boycotted throughout Liverpool and also? Wyatt hurts so much to hear. UNITED FANS sing. The Sun is right you're murderers murderer's Manchester United's darkest day was February. Sixth Nineteen fifty eight. When eight united players and three staff members died in a plane? Crash rationed Munich Germany. And you will still here Liverpool fans singing about that. This is the kind of cruelty that we are only capable of when we stop thinking of each other as human beings whose hearts all break in the same places and although physical violence between fans is less common now now than it was in past decades hatred not just toward rival teams but also racism and Misogyny and jingoistic nationalism. Awesome are deep problems in football because they are deep problems in the world. But I don't believe we need to create outsiders or dehumanize others. There is a way to be rivals without being enemies. I know Oh this because of American football when I was in high school in Birmingham Alabama about half the school supported Auburn University's football team and the other half supported. Did the University of Alabama. Those two communities are extremely serious in high school. I knew a girl whose parents named her tiger after the Auburn University Mascot I know people whose grandparents were buried in University of Alabama caskets and yet win the two teams. Play each other on the Saturday after Thanksgiving each year. Auburn and Alabama fans intermingle in many parts of the stadium Sometimes they partied together. That's not to say there's never tension or violence but by and large they make fun of each other and they root root against each other. But nobody celebrates anybody else's tragedies so is it possible for a strong us to exist without a hated them. I really believe it is and I know that will seem naive to many people. It is human for crowds to become mobs and and for Banter to become hateful. I don't mean to deny that but I think it's wrong to throw up our hands than say that it's just human nature to wish to see our enemies lay dead before us. The truth is we are making up human nature as we go along and we always do better when we acknowledge the humanity and the value of them I give sports sports rivalries to stars. Thanks for listening to the anthropology and reviewed which was written by me edited by Stan Muller and produced by Rosanna House Rojo's and Tony Phillips job. Board is our technical director and Hannah's Brown makes the music thanks also also Danielle who suggested a review of sports rivalries. If you'd like to suggest a topic for review or just say hi you can email us at anthem reviewed at gmail.com Dot Com. We're also on twitter and instagram. Where you can see native Silverman's extraordinarily beautiful illustrations for each episode? Thank you again for being here with us. We'll leave you today with a little reminder that whether you love football or not you will never walk alone aw

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Caught Offside: Champions League Final RECAP

ESPN FC

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Caught Offside: Champions League Final RECAP

"The new shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline is engineered with four levels of defense against. Where corrosion. And friction why. It's sort of like having ninjas protect your that helps keep your engine running like new new shell v. Power nitro plus premium gasoline. Thought in engines, it continues a use Shelby Howard, nitro plus pre Indesit. Caught offside with gummy and. J. J D. Benny? Which this at the first minute. It's bruce. Champions live. Scott outside from the Upper West side of Manhattan, and the six times champions of Europe, JJ, davonte here with Andrew Harding, who is reneging on his own, judy's today because he's just a bit, too sad, couldn't muster the strength and the energy. My voice is going, probably tell same. What a day we put in yesterday at the Harry lemon. Yeah, look it really was fun, even though the outcome didn't go the way I wanted. It was still a fun day. And to everybody who came out and showed up for it. I can't. Thank you enough. We had less than a week to really promote that we were even doing that. Yeah. So the fact that has many of you turned up as, as what was there was, it was shocking, and it was so cool. And I hope I got to speak to everyone who was there. But if I didn't I apologize and thank you for coming. Yeah. There was some people I didn't get a chance to properly have a drink with an thank them so much for listening and turning off. But it was incredible. I like me mcgirt friend likes me. And now I know other people like me. No. They were great. Absolutely great. And some of the words that were said about the podcast were way over the top, and inaccurate was actually blown away. Some of it was crazy one that really nice people. Yeah. And if that's if the Andrew, if that's just a f- flavor of the listenership that we have we're doing okay. And I will say to before geez. I can't speak just plea. Everyone just bear with me. This. Before we before the podcast before we made the decision that we were going to do it. There was part of me that a was a little bit worried about watching a game of that next to with you. But then there was also part of me that was like, well what about everyone there? If half the bars Tottenham and half the bars Liverpool. I hope it's going to be okay. Like I know you know, we're, we're all normal people, sometimes it only takes one that isn't a normal person. Caused things to go wrong. Because usually you and I gotta say that everyone. There was so cool. They were everyone was like, the, the fan base is co mingling was great, and I don't know it's just all other than the game itself, which was even for Liverpool fan who won. I think would look at that game and save wasn't a great games a bad game of football so take that aside the day itself was so fun. So hopefully we'll be able to maybe this was kind of a test case of like, okay. Can we do this and have people actually show up? And I think the answer was a resounding. Yes. So hopefully, we'll, we'll be able to really do more of these now and properly do them with real promotion with real promotion. And maybe some swag thrown in, but obviously, you're tuned into this right now. Not to hear us talk about the event yesterday but to hear us talk about the game and how it went, we'll get all aspects of it will break down every element of it. And the end of the podcast. I think you know, we're still in the moment of the game itself. But it is time to now kind of start looking forward for these two teams and what the future will hold for them, which is probably a little bit more of an interesting place for Spurs than for Liverpool. But we'll get to that a little bit later on in the podcast. Let's start, though, JJ with, we'll go chronologically. And what makes most sense was what the whole world was waiting to see an hour before the match started? What would Tottenham team sheet? Look like will hurricanes name be on it, it was and let's talk about the impact that that had on the game for me. You know, I was I was abundantly clear on our preview show that it's not what I would have done. Am I going to sit here and say, it's the reason Tottenham loss? No, no. I certainly don't think it is. Did Cain play. Well, no, I certainly don't think that he did. Now, some of that will never know if it was fitness, or if it was dyke, or maybe it's both. Is it? Fair to ask a guy that that is coming off an injury that hasn't played in that amount of time to now go out there and be expected to play up to his level against the best player in the Premier League. Maybe none of it mattered. That's the other point I'm coming to know there's, well, we could have had Lucas more on from the start, but things were so disjointed across the field. You had Spurs players trippy Stein's out just kicking the ball away, giving the ball away in, in crazy scenarios. The passing wasn't crisp the movement wasn't Chris. There were two occasions. I think when Spurs got him behind with human sawn in, in both scenarios, but really that was it for the first half even though Spurs dominated possession. So put Lucas more in there gives you a different kind of movement is definitely fitter than can. But I'm not sure it would have made that much of a difference. I've come to the place where he plays are he doesn't similarly with Roberto for me. No. I'm not sure either of those cases make any difference with the way the game Pondo hurricane in this game had twenty six touches that was the fewest of any player on either team who played ninety minutes Kate had just eleven touches in the first half. If you're Virgil Van Dyken you see a half it Harry Kane coming onto the field. You're feeling. Okay about that about that macho whereas if maybe if you have again, to wasn't good enough patterns of play for me to say that Lucas, more would have benefited, but maybe Lucas more gives him on gives that back line in general because he's not going to say essential, he's going to go wide, he's going to drift. He's going to get in behind the full says. Well, maybe that makes there's no way of there's no way, we'll never know. Look, Lucas more does bring something that's different than what hurricane branch or not saying that he's a better player than Harry Kane, I think hurricane is a top three striker in the world, but they're different players, and for the way that Spurs played in this game you know, a little bit more long ball passing. That was interesting. We mean you talked about that at halftime. We did not see that coming. I got it completely wrong. I think maybe the conditions the heat had something to do with it. But there was not the pressing the high press from Liverpool that we expected, they dropped off a bit on Spurs looked to kind of go over the top, and equally Liverpool looked to go over the top. How many day I can balls. Do we say on Tallinn's a lot of them poorly? His a lot of them though. Not pretty hit pretty decent. Some of them pretty decent. But what would come after? That was I know not good. Don't we was so disjointed? I've never seen the ball. Go to play so many times, look finals are often maybe even generally bad. That is true. I thought that was a trend that was changing. Yes. I thought I thought that to the World Cup final was way more open with France and Croatia. Yeah. I guess the European championship going back to France and Portugal. You know that was that was rough. But that was by design with Portugal, and who knows what kind of plans changed once Rinaldo got hurt in that game. But we've seen some FA Cup finals that have you know League Cup finals. I feel like that have been interesting. Yeah. But there was a general I told you yesterday the vomit juicing. First European Cup final that I watched Marseille and red star grid cook God nightmares before we move off of Cain. Here's Craig Burley on ESPN FC talking after the game he was pretty strong with how he felt about it. Now. Harder cane. Kane didn't do anything wrong. But he didn't do much right? It clearly wasn't fair and the five to inject a piece into the game, it pays that Liverpool have in this occasion. Lookers Mora the heart trekked here of his semifinals branch. I actually think that was weak and knows had lost credits aged that was weak management from Portugal. He, he got hung onto the hirees Hari styles brigade. The only reason I can't fully disagree with what he's saying. Because look hindsight, is what it is. We all watched what happened out there in Harry Caine was totally ineffective so, okay. Like he's right. But I just have to feel like in all the training leading up to the game. Like I love Craig, he's one of our favorite guys, they have on the show, but he like he wasn't there to see what Kane looked like in training, Pocchettino. So for him to just say puch Tino got caught up in the if he's fit he plays. We'll positives been watching him in training for the last, however many weeks, he like I don't, I don't know if that's totally fair indictment to put on pockets where he got swept up in the media. Attention. We are we going to level, the San occasion that Jurgen Klopp who played Roberta for me? No won't manage your soul. These guys and decided that they were fit enough. The problem is for me. There was three weeks of just training. They didn't have any games there was nowhere to test anything, and so. So you're just going in with what you've seen in five sites. Six ascites seven two. Whatever they do in, in, in training situations, which is never never a good are accurate barometer for match-fitness. So then the game started and I said on the podcast, the other day, and I had no idea quite how prophetic the words would be the Mike Tyson, quote. Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Who would have ever thought that, that punch would occur within the first forty seconds of the match whatever plan Tottenham head or Liverpool had a handball in the box, forty seconds in goal for Liverpool all the sudden in the second minute, they're up one nil. Like those plans were now like crumple up in a ball and throw them out in the trash like everything changes in that moment. Two minutes into the game now we know Liverpool like fast starts, but, but that was ridiculous. And I mean, everything went downhill after that, really that was the most frenetic energetic moment of the game. Probably outside of the last few minutes. Didn't you think after it happened? So obviously, I couldn't have been more despondent in that moment. Right. But like if you were a neutral watching, you might have been like, okay. Forty seconds in chaos second minute goal. We are in for what is going to be a wild ninety minutes of updates going to open up. It's going to be a class like oftentimes that early goal is just like okay. Here comes chaos. Lay, you know. Totten. We're gonna push forward. They have to score now. We can't get ill nil. Get into extra-time goals need to happen. And it just it just wasn't now before we get to the rest of it. Let's talk about the handball decision it self because it was clearly it's the most controversial moment of the of the game. And one of the more controversial moments of the entire Champions League season. I think you would have to say. I hated it. I hated that. It was called, but I saw its we. So Stu holding tweeted out. He just basically put it out there. Correct decision or not like he didn't really give his thought on it on Twitter. He just said, he put it out there for everyone to respond and Brian ching, former Houston dynamo. Striker US men's national team striker. He said this, which I which resonated with me. He said, I say it's a tough one. Yes. Penalty by letter of the law, but I wouldn't have given it big game. No real advantage taken away came up the players chest first unintentional don't like to see a big game decided on a play that would not have even resulted in a shot. So like everything he's saying his sentiment. I think like the bomber that it was to kind of have that moment, loom over the entire match afterwards. Like I felt that way too. And I, I bet a lot of neutral fans did too. But like, I don't know the we know how handballs are being called now. So. Soak goes arm is clearly in an unnatural position. I know it hits off his chest. But his point he's, he's jockeying and trying to guide the defense beside him. It was such a freak thing came up rebounded off, and I hit, his aunt, no Jackie Audley time fairly tweeted this and like I said to you honestly, not a penalty for me. I wouldn't if I'm the referee there, I'm not giving it it's it's it's too early. It's but is that a reason though? That's what I'm saying like it's too early is not really a reason. I know it's not put I felt like it hate him. He could do nothing about it. It flicks at his arm. I thought he was I thought he was super close to him as well. That, that matters for the things that we've always been led to believe matter. Don't really matter anymore intent doesn't matter any, right? You know, spacing as we learned when with Danny roses Hamble called against Manchester City doesn't matter anymore. This is what Jacqui Oatley tweeted out straight after you UF is head of refereeing. Roberto resent he in January twenty nine thousand nine. Regarding to Champions, League knockouts digits. So we're being very specific air clarifying handball when the arm is totally out of the body above the shoulder. It should be penalized. If the defender is making the body bigger in order to block the block the ball, it is not fair. Reside. He continued it is different if the defender is challenging or playing the ball and it rebounds, but if he is looking to block across or a shot on goal on the players trying to spread his body than it is a Humboldt. Now. Are you read that back and said, okay, well, then under that guideline, it is a handball it is a penalty. See, but I hear that I hear that. And I think it's not because what what's the line in there again, you still have it up if the defender is trying to make himself bigger to defend or blog a ball if wasn't no he was. He had his arm out because he knew across was coming for Mani, and he's pointing to L Durant. I think to get to the back post like he's not his intent. There is not to defend. He's. Communicating with a teammate now, I guess, that's using all version of semantics is the arm out. Like, does that matter if it's to communicate or to defend it is different if the defenders challenging or playing the ball and it rebounds. I mean, does that does rebounding off himself onto himself count, Holtom Italy, I think I'll just have to settle on the called it. And I guess I understand it if they didn't call it. I would have also understood it, I think it's just one of those and as a Tottenham fan I just happened to fall on the wrong side of it. It's just it's just frustrating because like what branching said it's, it's frustrating to have this moment, change a Champions League final when it would nothing was gonna come from this like mono-. It almost looked like Monty was trying to induce a handball. Can I say something to you, as well? Think of the domination of Spurs possession after this think of the whispers ease their way back into the game actually Spurs were okay for the next twenty five minutes in the context of this author be utterly. So par performance from both teams. Spurs did. Well, okay. Yeah. They had eighty eight minutes. Idiot minutes to score a goal. They really didn't come close. They were they were impotent -ympia and the thing, too, is with this early goal that Tottenham gave up. This is kind of who they were throughout the Champions League. Look at the stat from talking t- HFC on Twitter. He says Tottenham Hotspur now conceded eight goals in the opening fifteen minutes of Champions League games this season. This was a constant problem for them which time and time again, they managed to survive, but it just felt like they were always in this uphill battle the fact that they were able to, to make it work for them against Manchester City in the second leg. They were able to come back, but Liverpool or was was just a different animal today Liverpool's defending his is that much better maybe than some of the other teams that they faced. The report were so disciplined in the way they defended. And like it was just too big of a hill for Spurs to climb. The biggest thing you can save over whose performance on how it affected. Spurs. Was there doggedness? I mean they weren't playing well but they still did the right things they defended. Well, the goalkeeper mid saves when they needed to it was a disjointed performance it, it wasn't trash metal. It wasn't black but it wasn't heavy metal. It wasn't even, you know, just feel like. There is so many possessions, it felt like where okay Tottenham do what they do. They're going to play it out from the back. Liverpool press them, a little bit caused them to maybe half the panic a little and wind up playing at long anyway. And then you had this, like, pinball Ling in the mid field header header. Somebody gets it knocked out of bounds. It was just like the there was just no flow whatsoever. And then even in the moments where it looked like Tottenham might be able to threaten like there was one plane particular deli. Allie gets the ball on the left side in the first half and like son is streaking down the middle and alleys ball into son is just terrible, and it goes harmlessly over the line for a goal kick. Like there was just a lot of those moments. Now, one thing that I said to you before we started recording I went back and rewatch the extended highlights and like it is funny. How in a game that I know was a bad game. It just was. But it like when you watch the highlights again, you can almost trick yourself into thinking, actually there was more stuff that happened than I than I really remember, transplant exander iron of flashes won't pass the post Andy Robertson, drives forward, enforces, a save for new lorries when in actual fact, it was ball's bouncing in the midfield. Henderson nods on gets it to for me. No, for me. No miss controls Burs have it back. It goes to the full back position ship as shanks it out a play. Throw a ball bounces in the air. It was terrible. It was tough. It was really hard watch. And I gotta say the, the rhythms and the flows of football. So when please just take this for, for me trying to reach into into the arena of professional sports, but. We were kids at school, and we go on break for summer holidays. We used to play. So think about it. We played every day in the yard. We played soccer sound so old. We played every day in the yard but we did we kick the ball around all the time. And in the summer, we actually played less football because we weren't all together and we lived in rural Ireland I had to, like, mix seven phone calls to arrange game, the torch light. Begins. Oh JJ wants to play. He wants to play. He's making the signal or is that the signal that the British coming, just don't know. So I come back from school in September on what was hilarious to me, my legs were jelly. I couldn't trap the ball. I couldn't control it might pass as we're going behind people like when you when you have such layoff from the, like that the sheriff twitch muscle fibers everything that you do the fast, which most of everything seems to just kind of coagulate and it goes wrong. And that's what that was yesterday that was JJ and the ad in September not being able to make a ten yard pass. So you put this down to three week lay-off, I definitely do, I it's a mixture things for me. Right. First of all you're playing in a stadium. You, you probably none of those bears played them before. All right, whatever. Right. You're playing in thirty degrees. There's all this pressure. It's not a two legged ceus celsius. Sorry. This is it right? Everything's on the line at there's been a long, long build-up. Like there's being you don't have up like this for even Champions League semifinals. It's much are much more compacted, so that clean of weighs on you. It's on your shoulders. It's, it's building, then you've all you've had training games. You've been in my bay in the sun. You've been wherever you've been. It's, it's just so different. And then there's imagine dragons beforehand, and you're wading through that. There's just this waiting on it all bills, the tension bills. It comes down from the stands. We heard the commentators say Liverpool fans have been surprisingly quiet in the second half. The songs haven't been flowing even the fans in the stand were disrupted yet, all you rhythms are gone. And you get that. Yeah. See, I wonder you're right. I'm sure there's some of it now, typically, I would think a long lay-off is helpful because anybody not just for the canes. From you knows. But for the guys who are trying to fight through injury. Like so it gives them a chance and you want for game of that magnitude you want as many top level players out there, healthiest possible. I get sad. But think about this. Henderson gets absolutely brutalized in the first half his Legos normally gets a dead leg against Barcelona the first half of the second against Barcelona, but it's a Drennan Lynn. It's, it's, it's everything and you get open, you get on with it. All that's broken by three. Here's the couple of things that I would put it down to. I think it's a combination of several things some of what you just said. I'm sure is true. Some of it that goal happening for Liverpool early on changes. How the game is going to be played. I think Tottenham do well on the counter attack. And I think Liverpool once they had that lead where they were just not going to allow that to happen. They dropped off. Yeah. So, you know, maybe that has somewhat of affect and the other thing, too, which kind of gets forgotten because of how Tottenham wound up getting to the final with the thrilling comeback against I XE with the. Comeback against Manchester City but let's actually think about Tottenham in the in the latter portion of the season. You know, one nil loss to Manchester City, a one nil loss to West Ham, a one nil win against Brighton at home that took a last gasp goal from Ericsson one nil loss of born with Tottenham even I asked the first leg one, no loss second-leg didn't score until finally it was like guys this is in score goals now and they finally did. But, like Tottenham over the last couple of months of the season in terms of their attack. They weren't that good. So, you know, we can put it down to, like, canes fitness, and this, and that and the settings and not being in the right stadium. But some of it is just like, you know, I hate to give Graeme soon his comments any credence because I think there are largely nonsense, but like some of it is true in that this team did lose nineteen. Now twenty games this season. Like they, they were a flawed team who struggled to attack and score goals late in the year. So part of it is. Like that version of Spurs, crept up, I think there was hope from Tottenham faithful that when push came to shove late in the game when Kain son your rent a and Lucas more are all on. I think there was this hope that, okay? Well, they got a score now like how can you have those four guys out there and not even get chances? But Liverpool's defense is just that good. And like I think that's just kind of it aren't there, not another in a final, but they're not great put look look at the Liverpool team in two thousand and five that we talked about just not good loose a Crystal Palace. That's hers power ninety Johnson penalty. And then you're going out and beaten Adventists in Sharon. You know, it's our brother and onfield. It cop football's different. It's weird on Tottenham road there. Look road that absolute. Just amazing Rhone of belief and they got it all the way to the final, and it just didn't happen for them on the day. It's couldn't get it going. And I mean some of the moments too, like it's not just about them. It's like I said, Liverpool are really good son finally, in some space in the first half one on one Alexander Arnold, just pokes away, brilliant defending how Van Dyke similarly. I mean he just he owned cane. He just did that he's he's tremendous player the season man of the match and a Champions League. Final like kind of central defender. Is it even possible for a central defender to have a better season than what he just had? No. It is isn't any any. He's such a Rolls, Royce. The guy doesn't sway. He just glides across the tar fits. It's unbelievable. And also, we talked about it in the second half and, and there were a few more openings for Liverpool because potch pushed his chips to the middle of the table. He took off winks basically Erickson started drop in deeper. He's not going to do that kind of defensive work. There was a hole there because because he had. It so much to attack on, I think what would be disappointing like Liverpool created a milliner dominion chance which was probably outside of Morris chance better than any chance bars out. That's the disappointing thing that when, when they did split everything on black it, they didn't create enough. They didn't give you enough. And I, I really think. That moment Lucas more Haas to score. There has to score there and look his it's a little tough because that whole sequence was really the only sequence were Tottenham threaten the son shot. It started with sons shot from about twenty two yards out, which Becker Allison did a nice job burying away. But Tottenham regathered was a Danny rose. I think who got it and then played it right into Lucas Mora. Who you're right. I mean you can say he's got a score there, but he's fading away kind of as he kicks it. So his momentum. He's not able to put momentum into it. He maybe he takes it a little quicker than he needed to right. So if you want to criticize him for that I guess, maybe that would be the one thing. But, you know, that was in the eightieth minute. And it just I know they had, Danny rose fouled right? On the edge of the box in the eighty fifth minute dining, Rosetta gamely, tone. Yeah. I thought so too Erickson, then on the ensuing free kick good safe by Alison. He somebody who also should be mentioned here Liverpool were in this game a year ago. Why did they lose a couple of reasons? You know rail. Madrid are good. Obviously most solid got hurt, but also Laura's curious was a complete and utter train wreck. Yes. So what did Liverpool do they were, you know, backed by f s g John Henry. They put a ton of money into a position that doesn't always require ton of money, but they said, we can't have those mistakes, come back to bite us in a similar situation and Allison was great. He was great wall sees law. And specifically yesterday on and I was just so confident, I think it's a, it's a standard save for a top-class keeper from the Ericsson free kick. But I'm telling you, I am not convinced that either Manila are carriers. Get to that and do it. I get it away. That was an accident where he turned around the round the post the free-kick he's an accident keeper. And it was an area of knee Liverpool couldn't go on penny pinching in that position like they paid very little for carriers. Minneola, obviously was legacy. He hold over from from Brennan Rogers. You're right. I mean you can it's a great story for Liverpool to do what they've done. But they have invested in getting to this point, western like, like it's very easy. It's amazing. The bit of business. That Katina was, you know, you get inversion Van Dyke, and a goalkeeper for them for that outlet that when you think about that. And think about what Barcelona fence. Think of Cotino right now, wait to get rid of them. Absolutely incredible. Yeah. It was. It was just you looked at me. I think toward the end prior to the original goal. And you just kind of had this emptiness in your eyes as if we could be here till next Tuesday, We're not gonna care vote enough chances to, to win even at one note. Now, I will say this, the relief I had when orig buried that one right into that bottom coroner was was really positive. I felt great about it because I did not want people going in to the police match talking about a humble yet that would that would have been the entire it was already maybe the story of the game, but that would have been light and it wouldn't have been. Yeah. I would, I would not have enjoyed it because I would have used it for the rest of time. Oh, well, yeah. You got you got another typical BS Liverpool. Call going in your favor and you want to champion. Look the way the way I see it is. Yeah. That, that's how I felt. That's how that's always still feel. And it, it kind of I still say they'll shoot eighty eight minutes and all the bowl, the Aridi goal, I want to ask you a question about it, because as I have said, I have a p brain that can't comprehend. The sports sometimes, and I need a European brain to help me. So prior just prior to him scoring obviously, it comes off of the corner. Yeah. The ball bounce around. But even prior to that the reason for the corner. Do you remember what happened? Refresh my memory Andy Robertson plays in a ball into the box, and Danny rose kind of sit out if no one near him right now is he you tell me sport, your whole life is he doing the right thing? They're on the percent. That's a thought he apologize. I thought he said he my bad afterwards was there. Well, I don't think anyone was nearing didn't need to do it. The ball was going to go out. He did not need to do it. He does not know what is around. So should lorries be saying, let it go. Let it go like Louis should give him shout there. That is where your goalkeeper communicates. No, he either did an in the noise, it wasn't heard or Danny rose took an executive decision which allowed to defenders do you often see goalkeepers going like this. And he's like, I didn't know I made a decision, he took an executive decision on that one. I did not obviously either here are ignored the shout from the Reese one or the other. It was brilliant bowl in there was no one on the end of it. But it was still a good ball in dangerous. One had a lot of pace on it. And for me he's done the right thing for me. I love I love de Niro. So I will I will set a long. I thought he had a game as well. Yeah, generally. I remember watching it in real time, thinking, oh, well, I hope this doesn't come back the buttocks. And then watching the highlights again today, I was like, oh, like you wanna reach through the screen knowing like how. History is going to unfold afterwards. It'd be like, no. You wanna push him out of the way. No. Let it go ones near you. The proper football man to give you familiar. Well, he's done. Those wreath quite right doing that. He's no. He's folks safety. I Andrew always in these in these things on site is twenty twenty vision. That's what you would hear. That is very proper India. Thank you. PFM. Devalkula. Reiki. Like what else can you say about this guy's pension for the moment here? I saw this stat late in the second half scored the goal to seal. The win for the reds Regan scored which with each of his three shots in the Champions League this season all three in the semi finals and final scored four goals in his last four games for Liverpool after entering may with just three goals in all competitions this season, one of which, though was like the goal the year against Everton like this. You talk about a super sub, what more could be asked of this guy. Really the David Faircloth in the nineteen. Seventies, when the lore of Liverpool was being wrote written he was considered the super soap on devore. Gi is no, the not ginger David Fairclough. It's unbelievable. To me, you want to hear the tweet. I saw two different. Daniela story story, said, Liverpool last July were quite happy to release Caridi to join holders field. In an incredible. I said this to one of our listeners quite emotional yesterday about it. It's amazing his journey. We saw him kind of burst onto the scene with Belgium in two thousand fourteen World Cup. And you and I it was just at the start of this podcast said we bought like him, he's a good signing for Liverpool and he just kind of fell by the wayside. He had loan moves. You didn't score twenty goals on loan. Didn't even start always on loan and people would ask me. What do you think of deliverables squad? And I said, well diva Craig is still in the squad. You know, we're still we don't have the debt, we need to be able to replace players like him. But there's something to be said for for for letting a guy be involved with clearly good. Footer letting him develop he's still young. And he is just taken every opportunity. He's been given off the bench and grasped it, and that was brilliant finish across Laurie. Oh, yeah. Really good. Now just inside the post was perfect. It's just not getting to that. He's not get into it and. Does he snatch at things? Yes. Dozy. Ron dome blind alley whiz. Yes. But Klopp has done a really good job in coaching him because he is better than he was now Willoughby grit striker for Liverpool. I don't think what's his future. I don't know. I heard a contract was on was offered to him. I heard this a month ago. But like if you're him. I mean obviously he's on top of the world today. In this moment, he scored all these big goals, and he's a Liverpool legend, he may never set foot on the field for them again. Who knows? But he's he'll go down forever. With these goals scored like, if you're him and the dust settles from all this excitement do even want to stay there. I feel like he scored goals now where he like he's gonna wanna be a first team player somewhere, and he's just he's not gonna be that at Liverpool only gonna Sola share after nine thousand nine it was, he's going to Tottenham. He's too good. Looking at me scoring goals in European Cup finals. He's going to taught him. He never did he kind of took that role as a super soba went with it. I think he's more cultural and will work harder than Daniel storage and Klopp wants him because he will do what he's told he will run. He will press and when he gets in the box, he's a decent enough finisher. Do you think that the fact that he is willing to give himself up to the team? The fact that he's willing to work. He's not as talented as some of the payers, not as talented. Security is not as talented as Sturridge but the fact that he is willing to do those things run the hard yards for Klopp may be something that keeps them at the club. But let me just ask you. So let's say like one of the things that hinders him is that, you know, a lot, I don't from, you know, dealt with some injuries at the end of the year. But like Monay Sala they didn't get hurt. But even even if they got hurt at some point this season, so, we'll Oreg then start up front, or we'll Klopp reshuffle, his formation and bring in like an extra midfielder because I don't think all the sudden rigi becomes a starter. Even if one of those guys goes down, it's only really being in the last six to eight weeks, the Newcastle game, the r- the obviously the need to play against Barcelona. I don't know. Man, I really don't know what future is, but he is a gold plated, legend, no at Anfield. And he may he may want to stay on right out that legend status and see where takes them. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. I'm curious about that. There's other guys too for Liverpool for all the like the stick, I give you about Liverpool's. Sometimes there are guys on that team that I it's overall. It's a pretty likeable team. I would say that if you're a Liverpool fan you you can you can root for this team pretty easily. Like I was watching a clip last night, kind of like seeing stuff on Twitter, Jordan Henderson's embrace with his father was incredible. I mean how can you not like? How can you not feel that when you're watching it, I feel huge gives about the way I've talked about him over the past few years, like do I still think sit here and think he is the perfect, midfielder is either midfielder, that, you know, is even in the top ten midfielders Liverpool have had in the last twenty years. I wouldn't I don't think so. But what he's done. And the way he has Klopp has helped him and he's just -bility to go. Yes, I'll do that. Applies six. I'll play white on the right. I'll do whatever you need is just unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. He's only twenty eight and Jonathan Norcross. The journalists spoke to Graham hunter of ESPN AFC for one of his podcasts, and he talked about this on it resonated with me. He said Henderson was always the guy that was going to be moved on. He was a throwback to the KOMO Lee, the Stewart downing the Antequera signings that didn't work under Kenny Dalglish the early effigy years, and he was a guy who was bought on stats, he'd run harder than everybody else is. Pass completion was pretty good. But he was he I never loved him until, and then you see him if that European called, I've saw happy from I've, so because he's, he's a general he, he's a soldier. He wants to do what's best for the team. And we have we seen earlier in the season when he was taken off by Klopp, and they had that I think it was at Manchester United. They had that back and forth, where he just wasn't happy and yet he rolls up a sleeve goals to work every week for the team. He's extremely likable as a person and. He lifted the European Cup. I get my head around, you would told me when he stood there with those, those other signings at Anfield twenty eleven can't believe it's it is. It's an exercise in persistence on just getting a boat. Your job. Unbelievable. Solas another one to like I talked about how the penalty this year was the punch in the mouth moment last year. His injury in the thirtieth minute was the punch in the mouth moment. Whatever plan Liverpool had went out the window, and it was as a neutral was unfortunate watching that game last year without Mosala. And you know that kind of leaked into his World Cup performance, which was a bummer. You know then this season as good as he had a tremendous season but you still hurt. But what was the that one week? We got a tweet from somebody suggesting that Liverpool should move on from a detailed Email that saying that we should cash in. No, like insanity. So you know for him to score a goal in this in the Champions League final year later from having suffered that injury. I think he's somebody. Feel good for Dell. Definitely. And Gary Lineker did an interview with him. There's so much good content in the long lead up to the open final. Maybe I should be so critical about it. But he didn't enter interview about him, and he talked about when you left Chelsea, and you went to Italy to, to, to restart career and he talked about him scoring goals at Roma. So we started going goals as a white pair Roma fifteen goals in a season before he was bought by Liverpool. I carry Annika goes, well what did you do while I got goals, and I built a half field? Guarantee goes Guo's wear. And he was like at the back of my house. And with no goalkeeper on his own outside of the training hours he practiced finishing where he built a field behind his house pretty much dot is that is what I took from it. I don't know if it was behind his house, but close to where he lived, and I'm like, dude, you've got a, you've got a training ground at Roma just stay there. But no, he wanted to be I guess immersed in it. He wanted to be able to like he'd be cooking, pasta and stop and go and play in the backyard. This is what it seemed like any. Practiced finishing for hours. He said it a bag of balls a goal and he just and dot is, you know, you seem again with another high goals, you know another season. Not as money's last season. Obviously, which was a freak. But again, giving you goals, it's all hard work. It's all a story that's led to last night. I was delighted for him because you could see when he slid after scoring the goal to celebration was, he's got this, this weight off his shoulders after what happened in Kiev last uh summer. Yeah. Yeah. So in the end like you said it is Liverpool for the six time European champions, just how satisfying was this because I know so much of this season was like have to win the league for me have to. But you weren't alone in that I think, you know, we joked after like the group stage when Liverpool got through in the final game like it felt like there was this underlying group of Liverpool supporters that almost would have been okay if that had not happened. But in the end here you are the final game of the season, you know. And it's, it's you hoisting the Champions League trophy, and I have to believe that a lot of those feelings that Liverpool fans were so downtrodden. And after the Manchester City league success. I gotta think some of that melts away aiding lists. It definitely does I I've been getting texts all day, wound from. For my friend column whose huge red. And, and he was saying it would have been, it would have been terrible to finish. What ninety seven points in the league? And then go through the European Copeland not win. This trophy is like a vindication of the seasons efforts on I tried on you called me on you. Call me on my BS. Couple of times. I tried to tried the Klopp line, it's tops job to temper expectations going into a finals was team can purport perform at the optimum. But he was saying, you know, it's the journeys the amazing things ah trophies cool. Put if we don't have it nonsense. This was everything last night, and we needed to do it, a Miguel Delaney wrote about the if we didn't do it. There might be neuroses. We might have this hang up about finals and Klopp certainly would have it was, it was a vindication. I want to speak about something about Andrew that kinda, I was watching the scenes there. The parade is going on though in Liverpool and how much it means to people. And in the lead up to this final I, I watched a documentary about about Heisel on. The nineteen eighty five highs the stadium disaster. And we have Bruce Grobler sitting this very studio and talk about it, this Liverpool journey, and our association association with that trophy, it ruined soul. Soul deep. It's. You know, people have there's been massive tragedy in this Liverpool story on I just feel like. The Monica this means more is coming to smog. I the club puts it out put I'm not saying it means more than it would to I XE fans are two tot on finds. I just mean, there's such a weight of history. So many things have happened Sean Cox, who was attacked by the Roma fans last year, and it was put in just a terrible position fighting for his life. Sean Koch Cox was released from hospital to watch the game. He was able to sing you'll never walk alone wearing the jersey that was signed by all the players. It meant soul much to see all of that. You know, come together Jordan, Jordan. Henderson lifts the call. I thought of so many nights watching the report it wasn't just last night. It all together, maybe I'm just being overly emotional. But yeah, amazing amazing cathartic sakes. I can't believe it. Yep. Only. You and he's your guy ever going to stop talking only Real Madrid. And as C Milan with more. Yeah, incredible absolutely incredible book ourselves on. We're in Lee company. Now what we're back back to back European called flying lists Liverpool are back in a way that they have not been since the nineteen ninety start is a fact. Whatever dip there was no pre Klopp. Yes. I mean, forget it. It's been blown the wall. My goodness. Absolutely blown. I'll tell you what. Let's take a really quick break. When we come back, there is now kind of the future to look towards how do these clubs get better? How does Liverpool sustain this? How does Tottenham get back to this point, again, which feels so daunting? But I want you to hit oh, it is indeed a bright future. Oh, it is a bright future. Sounds so convincing. When you hear hear me say that optimism is not your strong suit. We'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. They always told will he was too short to play basketball, but will never listen. We'll let his work do the talking for him. Always Jim always running drills. We'll new where there was a will there was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born he realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. Who back now? On other drop. Look, my so I had a I had a sore throat all last week. Yeah. You were. And then yesterday like the game ended, and we hung out at the bar for another more hours than I thought I was going to and like your bar voice is not normal speaking voice. You're shouting at everyone. Yeah. For several hours and this is this is this is the end product is the net result of that. Yeah. And also, those, those shots that listeners bought US Super nice of you, very nice, but definitely doesn't help deal voice. No probably not one thing. I wanted to mention to you. You mentioned the Liverpool parade going on. This is not a Liverpool issue because every club who wins, does the day after parade. I gotta say, not a fan of the day after parade, all of these people who paid, like God knows how much money to fly to Madrid to get a ticket and watch the game in Madrid and support the team, they are pretty much all not able to attend. Most of them, this is a travel day back. Maybe some people got super early flesh. But most of those people can't be there, and I feel like that's kind of a I don't know. That's not okay. We got the Red Army follows you into Europe and you leave them there. Now, what about the guy who bought the skull de car? So he couldn't afford the flights because of course the flights were absolutely hiked. So the flight was eight hundred pounds which is wild to go to Madrid from from London, wherever it was. So this Liverpool found a scored a car for forty pounds and drove it to Madrid. Wait a, what a Skoda it's a, it's a brand of car. But this was he bought it for forty pounds. So you can imagine the state. It was in like an really old boxy late eighties. Early nineties Skoda. Yeah. He drove it he made it to Madrid. He has to drive that back. Yeah. He's definitely missing the parade well, he bought it for forty pounds. Right. So let's think about the idea of having to drive that back. I say you drive, it, they're rolling off a cliff and get yourself a one way plane ticket back. So you made it to Madrid for basically, half the price because you're only paying for a one way flight leave the car you paid forty pounds for it. It's like a it's like a hooded sweatshirt cost the same imagine he that was the cheapest car he could get. That was still was, where do you find a car for on EBay? Like, where's that even available EBay? There's, there's a site called Don deal in Ireland where you can buy cars and stuff private private sales. Yeah. That's those are the places. You get them. Who knew? And it was this thing was falling apart. A Skoda never heard of the thing that goes to, oh, it's old school a really. I think they were a German car that were big in east Germany in the eighties. Real box roof functional utilitarian. Oh, yeah. You don't flash. Don't even think about it. No, no radio. You wanna radio fancy boy? No cigarette lighter. Remember that, that used to be big? None of that note, just a seat and a wheel some wheels. Let's talk about where Liverpool and Spurs go from here. We'll start with Liverpool. If if nothing changes if every player returns, if they don't make a single signing the summer, then I would enter next season thinking Liverpool can win another Champions League. Now here's the question because there's more to it than the Champions League Liverpool. They have their sights set on even higher goals. Like I think they believe they should win. Double next season of some kind with the league being the key, linchpin society Oman, if we're going to win. We're going out to win the Premier League in the Champions League next season. Why should why shouldn't? They think that right? So the question is do like where where can they really improve? I think you almost just have to assume we've got a great squad that will be great again next year. And like man city can't do that for third straight year. Right. Like I feel like they're kind of you almost have to Bank on, like city, not being able to sustain that, while we have to see what city do in the market. I mean they have they are there are project like we haven't seen before. I've said this ad nauseam, but, you know, their funds are bottomless, so I would be shocked if pep Guardiola does not strengthen again. I'm not changes. The dynamic further liberal would also have to look at, at their bench. And we're Suming like what does Daniel starch do there's rumors that he's moving to, to MLS? We've been hearing that what happens with diva Caridi, Sheridan cheery. What happens with him? There's questions there Andrew, but those guys are rotational play. They've got to be replaced on look at look at the way they've impacted this season. They have they've been they've been crucial. So, but like though you're right. They have to be replaced, but that's, that's more feasible to be than saying, you know, we need a an attacking midfielder, who can what change everything for us like the structure in the foundation. This is good. This is it is lifting. It is definitely. But, you know, you have to be again, it's so strange for me saying that's the midfield with forbidden. I like him a lot James Miller as well where what happens to him. Wh how does his role change? I think he's fairly happy at this point in his career with the role. He's got does that continue that way? Do they do? They upgrade in the midfield. Do they change thing? What, what where does cough wants to take this now? Well next season it'll be interesting for navigator in particular, because this year it started brightly, and then it fell off a cliff, then he got hurt when it started to look like maybe he was actually going to be playing well. Again he scored a couple of goals. Yeah. So I think a lot of people may. Give him a pass. Okay. First year took it some time to get acclimated head injuries next year. Like, I, it'll be time for him to perform up to what they thought they were getting when they bought him from Leipzig in the first place. So sure he's like he could change. He could change a lot of things for them next season in the midfield. And that, that puts another guy who's who I mean he was bought to be a starter. So what happens some guys are going to get pushed down the pecking order? What happens there eight? Yeah, there's more. That's good that there's competition, the squad is strong. I still think Klopp is going to want to push forward and push on, and he may react to assigning city, make there may be that I'm not calling it a weapons race. It can't be. But there will be okay. City will do this. Do we need to strengthen somewhere while doing need to because I do feel like they are when you look at ours, you look what's happening at Chelsea Manchester. United. These two are Liverpool. City your soul fire head right now. Are you surprised that all that because like Liverpool are definitely buying club now? But there is always that Real Madrid Barcelona tear that lowers players away. He is even the highest degree buying club in other leagues. Like I feel like I don't even hear Andy Robertson's name or Alexander Arnold's name or virtual Van Dyke. There are no, there's no hint of a rumor out there of rail, Madrid coming in with some crazy amount of money for one of these guys. I feel like I don't know. I feel like this, this club was just going to continue forth with these great player and uncloth is very forthright in his interviews. He goes, he talks about the difference between Bush dormant and Liverpool say Rodgers era Liverpool. And he goes, oh, well, you know, Bush Dortmund we had one or two seasons where we were you know, right up there right up, there winning championships, and then everything was taken away from us. We're plugged and the same at Liverpool and Suarez. And then you he said that won't happen though. That's the position that Klopp is in where he's never been before, is that these players aren't going anywhere. And look, some of that is Klopp, and, and definitely atmosphere, that he's created there. And some of that is ownership like, they, they need to be getting for this American ownership group that didn't know maybe it's Hon about what they were getting themselves into when they took over Liverpool, and they and they had a few rough patches, or on, after two thousand ten they have righted this, and like, from the renovation of the stands there at Anfield and their willingness to pay guys like that. We'll talk about Tottenham in a sec, but that is always the fear with Spurs with Liverpool. I don't know. I feel like they'll, they'll be competitive with other great clubs in Europe that they'll, they'll pay these guys. They soon snapped out of the idea of well, we'll get Ragnar klavan for. For three point five million, and we'll get carriers for five million and bears, your centreback Culver. And there's your goalkeeper for nothing. They soon got out of that idea that, that can work and that was interesting. I also think the appointment of Uragan top was so important for coaching. We saw with Liverpool, and we see with Tina was well, I must give him credit for that cushions important under, like you it, this solution on top said, sometimes you have to buy virgin Van Dyke analysis and other times you've got to get guys up to speed and make them better. And he's not. I think what Henderson. I think he's done it within their he talks about how he he freed Miller's decision making now at thirty three so different to what it was at twenty eight or twenty seven when he was at Manchester City that's thought his coaching on. That is brilliant, and that investments in Klopp is an investment in your players know yeah, it's a good way of putting. And then there's the other side of this with Tottenham. What a weird season for them in the. End you have to look at it Champions League final incredible and managing to do that, while still finishing top four. Amazing wall also navigating playing half your mo- half ninety five percent of your season in Wembley a place that Tottenham fans and players view is basically having played road games for the last couple of seasons. You know, they navigated a lot. But I say it was a strange season because good Lord. I mean, there were, there were moments of true frustration for them along the way, especially in the league mainly in the Champions League, too. But they, they always manage to battle their way out of those situations the thing for them. Can they get back to this point again, is what I keep thinking about in my head, and what other Spurs fans at the bar yesterday were asking about Ken Cantat in them really do this again. Yeah. Yes. Who's to say that? They can't, of course they can. But. But, like how hard is it going to be for them to do it like, I just think about their road to have gotten here and just the fortuitous of the way things played out at the end of the group stage where interim Alon couldn't better Spurs result at home against PSV rice that had to happen, the craziness of a VAR decision allowing them to get past Manchester City, the insanity of the second leg the last forty minutes against I acts like a lot. A lot had to go right for Tottenham, which don't get me wrong is an amazing new feeling for a Spurs fan because we're so used to the other side of the coin when everything goes wrong. So you can take the term Spurs -i and throw it, right? The bleep out the window. Sure, I think that they completely have reversed that narrative, but man like to do this, this, I think they can do it again. And we've seen like I said, we've talked about you talked about the deficiencies in this first team still went to which I'm Z final. I've talked about Liverpool in the past still went to Champions League final. There's other teams that have done this. I think Spurs can do it again. I think they have the quality to go on the run like that. And we've seen that, you know, in, in the group stages in the past two seasons where they've had teams like Dortmund and rail Madrid. They're not scared. They're not cowed by that. They're not afraid of it. What, what I'm interested in now is what happens. You're in your new stadium. Right. You, you have to buy. No, right. Those no question about it. That's just like they can't possibly have another transfer window with zero activity right now possible. But here's you've built a billion dollar stadium. I don't know when the NFL revenue starts coming in, or as I don't know how that works. They don't have that revenue stream is going to work. Like is, is their money to be spent. Yes. They're one of the biggest clubs in the world. And how can there not be the money that the Premier League makes the money that they made from going on a run this deep into the Champions League there, there's what you spent Betty without going near without going near a player? This isn't like man city spending a billion across ten years for players. This is just a stadium. I say just the stadium it's a beautiful stadium. But it's a stadium. I is there the money to invest in the squad? No. Well, here's the thing that I worry about is will the money to invest in the squad come at the expense of say, a Christian Erickson who rail Madrid have reportedly shown interest in will Tottenham just have to relent and say, okay off you go. And then now okay, now here's the money for us to spend. That's the thing I worry about because I think if they if they can keep this team together this group of players, this is this is a uniquely great Spurs, who's indispensable who can't go anywhere. Who? I can't go anywhere. Well, the manager right to me is number one on that list, then after him the center by I look, I look at the centre Bax with, I mean could one of them go. I don't know. I would say, boy, that's a tough question. I wanna say Cain. He's he's their best player. You know when he's on his, they're, they're almost unbeatable daily alley. He's. He's not indispensable. No, boy, I feel so cold saying this because I I was talking to guys at the bar yesterday. And I said, I know that Tottenham just lost this game and they looked bad doing it. But my God I love every single one of those players. I know I really like even you know, there's moments where curing trippy drives me crazy. But the to see him after the game, the first place he went when the game ended was into the stands to basically hug Tottenham supporters. And like I just I truly believe that these guys care deeply about this. I think so too. And I think pockets, you know, his instilled a lot of that in them a run like this galvanizing for for for players. This is being this is a net success for Spurs, when everything God of golden to leave the memories that I, I hate these people because they do exist. There's a guy I work with here at this radio station of ESPN New York who will oftentimes remember, great. He's a Mets fan. He'll remember like moments in Mets history. Yeah. That were amazing. But it didn't. End in a win and he says, well didn't happen, then forget it. I'm like, I just can't sports and supporting team is just it has to be about more than than just hoisting life life. It'd be like that. The member like just reflecting yesterday talking to people about the wave of emotion that went through me when the cameras pan to the screen at the Eddie had that said the goal has been disallowed like that feeling it gives me goosebumps, just remembering it like, the, the Lucas more goal remembering how I reacted when that happened like these are things you take the stuff with you for the rest of your life. You definitely do you have to I had a snarky comment there. And I held back. You know what I was going to say, well, so now you're gonna say it anyway. So maybe you should sign the screen at the yet. Maybe the moment of the season for them. Yeah. But the thing I wonder about what Tottenham in terms of their future is okay. It's very easy for us to sit here and say, well, they have to buy they gotta buy players. They got to improve the squad. And yes, there's a couple there's a couple areas that I could identify where that would help mainly again, trippy like, that's a fullback would would be helpful because I just don't know. He's good. But is the Champions League. Final good. I don't know. But, like, okay, let's so let's say that who are they get like, that's the problem for Tottenham the only guys that can replace a like do you want to replace son or cane or Ericsson or the soco just was there player of the season? Like so who the only guys who can do that and replace those kinds of players are, let's be honest guys that they're not coming to Tottenham those guys that are going. They don't know. They're they're looking at bigger clubs. Then Spurs Real Madrid. Did you know men city Barcelona? Who knows what kind of money, Manchester? United are gonna throw out there. But like there's guys around the world that, you know, United is a bigger club than Spurs. I get that. And so that's their dilemma. It's, it's very easy for us to say out Daniel Levy, he so stingy. I can't believe he won't open up his pockets. The team is so close, but it takes two to Tango, and Daniel Levy could be willing to throw a lot of money at guys. But they have to want to go to Tottenham and are those guys of a caliber, that they're going to be willing to do that rather than go to a bigger club. I don't know. I don't know. And that's, that's their problem because Tottenham earth this moment in history for them where like it can go down to roads right now arsenal are down. United are down. This is this is Spurs moment. Chelsea have probable transfer ban coming up the season. Right. You know this is a moment for them if they decide new stadium like the future is bright, this team we are still all in our prime even have a young player starting to come. Up like Harry wings, go for it. They're so close. And will they do that? And that is the question that will plague them this entire summer until we start seeing the kind of moves that they are gonna make I don't know could be long summer for Spurs fans but we know how Daniel Levy does business. He waits until the eleventh hour. He wants quality for the money. He spends we, we know that much. Yeah. He will not burn burn cash. Yeah, I don't know. I think look, I think they'll be really good next season. And I think they have another Champions League run in them that I don't know that, that means getting to a final, but I expect them even with this team if they made no signings. I, I don't care what group they're in. I would say they should be getting out of the group stage. But is this team has presently constituted better than Liverpool? Or Manchester City to contend for title in the league. No, no. A resounding. No. So it's now it's time to decide are you a Cup team that wants to win an FA Cup and make another Champions League run. Or do you want to do you wanna battle Liverpool and city in the league like that's that is where they're at right now? It's going to be fascinating. Because everything's in place. Now we're not talking about stadiums. We're not talking about cheese rooms while I am. But we're not talking about, you know, patches. They're the vacancies being filled at Manchester United. You've just been in the Champions League final. Like you said the road is wide open on which road, are you? Two. The road less traveled. Poem, that I know. It's going to be a fun summer. I know we hate dealing in transfer rumors but we do because hopefully there will be action and we can start to see what con because the Premier League right now is like remember, we did the nNcholas cage game a few years ago about the Premier League where it's like this big box office thing that has no substance where I that's not true. Now, this league is great. And these teams are great you had you know four English clubs competing in both European finals. It's gonna be fun to see will. They start to steal away some of the guys that PS g Madrid and Barcelona have been taking like could this league still get even better? Will we see wolves in the Europa league final, who's to say who's to say I think that's about it, man? I'm trying to think of some something else, but fears a dotted that's the end of the season though we've ended with such fireworks. Maybe not on the field. But in terms of. Of the caught offside cope. I think we I was thinking about it this morning when I was getting ready. I was like, we kind of just have to retire the caught offside Cup as a thing. I mean, honestly, how could it ever matter again after these teams just played in a champion sleek flying, we meet you in the league, it's going to be unless we're neck and neck together for like second or far star something like that, it will feel quite small, it was. I mean they could meet in in the FA Cup final next season. And it'll be like whatever wake me up when they do it again in a Champions League. You heard Jordan Henderson mentioned, the coat of site cope maybes ice, Jordan. This must be the pinnacle of your of your career will. Yeah, you know, it is winning European cups amazing. And you know, obviously it being the caught offside cope with makes it more special. I, I think you're right. I let's put it out to the listeners. Look, we're not going to retire at it's not just like a camp possibly flee. Years is going to have to do something with that graphic, though. So Matt is an OG listener from backing when we first started this podcast. And he's kept score on the caudal site. Cope in a nice little graphic, I want Matt, to do something a little bit snazzy with that graphic because now I've got the Champions League you could beat me seven times in a role. It won't touch that. So you say today. What if I can't wait for the fixture list to come out? What if Spurs and Liverpool meet on the final day of I just like I all kinds of insanity at stake, all really the only thing all the permutations? Yeah. That's it. Are maybe we honestly even the Champions League final. This is this is like unless some special dispensation comes in we're Tottenham and Liverpool. Can compete in a World Cup. What are we doing beyond this? It's crazy. You sound like that a journalist in the Chicago one's swine stagger with signed do think Chicago can win the World Cup though. If you ever compare me to that guy, again, isn't it enough for you, that you've won the championship a unique to get some, I know Honey and lemon, or something for that voice? I know your voice is pretty much your, your moneymaker can't be my face. So this is it. Like you said, this is the finality God. It's been so much fun. It's almost even having lost this game yesterday. I, I'm still almost disappointed for this just to this chapter of like, I'm I pumped. How nervous where we before kick-off yesterday? It was wild. I know we gave each other hug beforehand us up on a stay over on thrown. I loved it. And you did not. No, it's not. I belong with the people, but thanks to Glen, and the Harry lemon for being such great hosts. Yeah. Everyone had a lot of phone. We were there, right until almost the Anthony Joshua fight. Yeah. And how about that. Oh my God. Good Lord, look at the new heavyweight champ of the world. He looks like a friend of ours. Does he? You can't say, oh man. Well, hey, this was fun. Congratulations to you, and to all of our Liverpool supporters. I know we have a lot that listen to this podcast and to all the guys that were there yesterday supporting Liverpool at the bar. You were all great. Honestly. It was a great environment to have watched a game like that. And to the guy, the rather tall, gentlemen, who walked in wearing what looked like a match worn. Chelsea jersey from twenty twelve with Lampert on the back just didn't care. Care, their Europa league chancy deserves the celebrate imagine if he's been out since they're opening final, and he just wandered in there. Yeah. While this may be the end of the season. This is far from the end of things because the women's World Cup starts this week. The US under twenty men have qualified for the the knockout stage of the World Cup. Yes. And we wonder how that's gonna work goes. We watched the game against Qatar. We wouldn't want to nail it should have been too. And we won the group and now they face France, which will not be easy. The Gold Cup. Start soon. Obviously MLS is continuing. And like before, you know it, honestly the Premier League is going to start again, August is not far off transfer like the transfer windmill is going to start blowing real fast, and we'll be talking Premier League in like the blink of an eye. The football is officially going on forever. It really and truly is oh, and less, we should say you mentioned that there yourself. You did an MLS. You said, MLS is obviously still continuing. Okay, good. Good. So yes, this was a lot of fun. Hey honestly truly. Congratulations. Man, you deserve it. You're such a great fan of this club. Oh, you deserve it. I'm thank you very much for. You've been very I tweeted out, I said, because people were asking on so I did a little video. I said, you're a true sportsman you genuinely are. There's no bluff, or bluster, which you about it. You know how to take defeat, you know, to you understand what it means. And I appreciate that. Because I think a lot of people thought we were going to throw each other off that podium, we were on out of that was well, I we're going long. Now, talking like belaboring this. But I actually think that the nature of the game helped in terms of coping with it as a defeat if that game was just ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding wild. You know off the post, like if there was just craziness happening. I think there's more moments that I'd be looking back on today and being like oh my God, they hit the post in the eighty third minute or like. Stuff like that. But like you said, Tottenham were just they were pretty impotent. And it just kind of like, yeah. We lost that game. We probably should have this was an amazing run. I couldn't possibly be more proud of this club. And like I can kind of be happy with how it all win. I bought you a commitment, a commemorative gift from the European Cup final twenty nineteen that just sums it up perfectly. You're gonna love it. It's signed it's Karen chirpy. Shanking the ball out for throwing earned the right. You are in the right. Hey, we'll be back next week with plenty more, of course to you. I say. Take care. Listening to caught off-side soccer podcast.

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Men in Blazers 03/30/20: Chat Sh!t, Get Answered

"This is Rebecca Lowe. Will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in. Blazers on the NBC. Sports Network. You remember me the judge Janine of bulldogs Jig Celtic who paint who put upon hope. The held up okay over the weekend. Some darkness. No doubt some lighter. Hope I mean. Let's be on this whole world right. Now he's just it's just not been in Newcastle. Found out the upside the beacon. Oh We oh we are really heroin blazes after the passing of Dave's dad the great trevor and stay very a builder soldier. Relief worker architect lifelong student inspirational father and loving grandfather. I will say they will speak for himself self when he gets back on the pod with us. Thanks for the outpouring of G. F O P loved that you sent to us through. This period led save a life together. Let Save at the time we have together in Trevor's memory. Let's say for the opportunity to make memories indeed one of my takeaways from the last two Juror Mohmand task weeks in exile is a renewed commitment and this will strike. Many of you is slightly curious. Coming OUT OF MY MOUTH. A renewed commitment to celebrating everything friendships. Life moments the creative endeavors of others. You know the works and not spirit a point words into action p birthday Tracy Chapman Happy Tracy Chapman birthday world. Is This Day a national holiday by the way kind of as a rule home from work right? Fusco a song that this may through. I can't even Count Infinite. Everton defeat over the years and we all living in a world report right now. Where for the first time ever? Since its release the whole world feels actually sadder than trade. He does in that song. Someone sent me a tape and I was trying to remember how a her they originally and somebody sent me. A recorded cassette wave that song before the album came out and there are a few tracks fallen in love with the very first time ahead and this was one of them and then the wool fell in love with Tracy Chapman and eleventh June. One thousand nine hundred ninety eight Nelson Mandela Seventieth. Birthday concert sold out. Wembley psycho live aid but for Nelson Mandela. I put the performance today. Posted it on my twitter is worth taking a moment to watch it. It really is Sherry. It brings such joy because well the stories well known tracy famously got thrown onstage in primetime broadcast hours when stevie wonder had had a keyboard malfunction tissue just kind of shoved on stage but a producers unexpectedly go on kid. Just play something before seventy two drunk English friends who were bored and chanting and irritated in the rare English son. Oleg bears all at Sun. She stumbles on. Oh stay ignore. She's got just an acoustic guitar. She's a low and she's an unknown. She's wearing a black role next. She couldn't look more pure more simple and then she just stands before microphone. Fires up the opening bars of force fast car as you say in America. I often think won't must tracy been feeling in that moment. I mean months before she was just a busker in Harvard. Square playing for Queens playing for the attention of two or three people now on stage at Wembley singing the very same song to a packed. Angry Stadium Beyond the stadium millions around the world watching and then that. Pule Opening Guitar. Riff breaks out so patient. Wise Eternal of voice begins floating above it. She's not confident but trae. She believes in a message. We've witnessed the worst. This world can throw away the worst. It could do to us and we've enjoyed and we're still standing here fighting for what we believe in. Oh I'm by standing there by being a self as a self never changing but telling US story. She sang his Wimbley intends. Moshe Raucous Bo. Suddenly into the most intimate of settings it's well-known white and choose. The sum becomes the summer of fos called the summer of Tracy Chapman Tracy. Chapman was everywhere in England. That year to me. This is courage. The courage we'll seeking to emulate right now being in touch with our emotions. Be they up or down in lightness and darkness soaked in despair and hope. Sing them out to each other. Emotions listened to those who are around you and love them because right now hope Tracy Chapman signature emotion. Hope is our only and best weapon. Skews May skews me for giving a bit late night smooth jazz? Dj On your assets. But you know what you're listening to chat shake get out and said on wgn. Philip the bold wants a number Chicago. Well we've got a new sting to remind gate was walk. Bradley McDevitt Chapel Hill North Carolina. That is one incredible sting one that lie. This whole podcast. Make you feel more lethargic after listening to it. Oh North Carolina you you you one of my favorite states clay earth that proud tar heel footballing tradition and the music. It's given the will J. John Coltrane superchunk. This thing lives right up there amongst those great did simply crop tastic. Keep sending us your stings for the show. Jeffrey peas the more. You send the real of this crap becomes so. Let's dive event producer. Joanna questioned one place. Hey My name is Larkin calling from Geneva Switzerland a big Liverpool fan but an even bigger fan of the show. Hey I wanted to get your opinion on who would win a hypothetical wrestling match between Truro and our Swiss man security. I Know Charlie spends more time in the gym in the weight room but Shaq has those short arms and small body which is tough to get good positioning on wrestling. So I think we'd be in quite a show but since we'll probably never see it in real life figure it's something we can imagine during the break courage. Kane. Did you know. There's a great poet named FDA. Oh I love this question. A fight between Tra Oray adum the big swollen. Manu claims he doesn't lift weights. Never has the muscles. Just oh so natural again. Chicanery a wee little. Being a human cubed Oh. This point is more bodybuilder than pro football. Let's be honest. They are perfect. Muscular foils great. Pay Per view crap as a fight. It will be probably too close to call in terms of a winner. This diction definition unstoppable force versus perfectly square removable object. I'm thinking John is ner a case. Nicholas Mahut tennis match Kinda fight. I would expect nothing less than a fish fight. That gives you eleven hours five minutes over three days with a final score of six four. Three six six seven seven six and that final set. Yes going to seventy games to sixty. It'll be a fistfight. So good no ending with. They were justice. Like game of thrones season eight troy would knock sha carry out probably right at the end to exhausted man but in the Var check it will be rule to be one large meaty naturally not steroids naturally muscle and nipple off side and chicanery winds. Oh never know Liverpool. Even until fictional made up boxing matches vase therefore you reds next question. Please professional a ride CICIS Josh from North Carolina Charlotte area. Whatever ten simple question? Wondering is you're saying the break familiarly has too much time for Carlo. Nfl realizing that him love your rides. And David my love. Thank you guys. I'm a Fedex divers podcasts guessing going back so I really appreciate all hail ta all Fedex drivers all. Ups drivers all postal workers only essential work on the front line or the emergency workers or you. Health Workers Doctors Nurses Hospital workers. I just WanNa say when this is all done and it will be done. The will be day when it's done. There should be a memorial a memorial sculpted in revival of on the National Mall. Your service your sacrifice in our nation's Arab need is genuinely or inspiring and I can't wait can everyone's debating they gonna do. They GonNa do the first minute. Workout currency what restaurant. They're going to go to what Miller they're gonNA we. I am just going to see the first fedex driver that comes down my street and I'm going to hug him or her and just be like thank you. Thank you thank you less or inspiring a love. You question. The way of thinking. It utilizes because you know every other fan of every other premier league team all imagining positive things right now occurring. Jonas enforce break up in the lab create new tactics to counter clockwise Liverpool Spurs buoyed by the extra time for hurricane to rebound from injury lamps. Now working out how we can bring play as he wouldn't even born when we all entered quarantine into the first team when they return Marini. He's got a huge whiteboard with new list of reasons. It's all and dumbly full Everton. Of course we're filled with fair anxiety negatively about whites all going to go to ship as they say. Everton now way I mean in all honesty. It's been a weird footballing weekend. Saturday storylines fill where they BLEEP NIL ISM reports of football's imminent financial meltdown. Uefa chief Alexander. Suffer and musing. Maybe the season will be lost if the Games can be completed by the end of June in the beginning to seep into the future of football but on Sunday that move just ricocheted as Miguel Delaney. Bring US sensational plans. That primarily exact. He planning to how that plays and medically sealed. Who Tells Billy World Cup teams force them to leave their families given to quarantine and lived there until they played the remaining ninety? Two Pre Games. They rapid clip in empty stadia with matches sprinkled along everyday. Q. A myriad of responses very contradictory. This is exactly what the nation needs to raise morale and create a sense of normal. See how I can probably bay to drain medical resources if that player gets an injury. Who's going to help him win? Launch Your on the line because of Corona virus and we'll fund really stay away. This is true question when the control break into closed-door games and thousand views on tick tock instantly honest. They we only to pinch ourselves. Remind ourselves were merely in the opening scene of a very very long multi. Act Play all this argument floating this media positioning to me might in comparison to the Colossus. That's corona virus. That is the greatest sporting wild card of all time to. We know how Britain's going to be overwhelmed by the global scourge. All of this is just noise. And Angst and clicks confusion. Best symbolized by Jack. Really Got Lovey Jack. Greeley's what you're doing may recruiting poignant twitter plea for funds to stay home. Be Safe. Be Sensible and then twenty. Four hours later smashing. His Hundred Thousand Dollar Range Rover injured couple of cars after attending an all night lockdown party. It's the best of times it's the worst of times and you are listening to chat shake get says US thing please. Producer Jona W. G. O. P. Still love that sting widely heralded as a classic from trae Jones. We will be back on Friday. Call the number six four six four five zero nine four seven two. I say your biggest question of burning import sound healthy. Been like this next one. Give me a question in the face. This is Chris and I'm awesome. Border questions from is over the years. He's been surprised us with all of his hip hop references and being in a break dance crews are going to be people show back in the day. My question for him is and this is one every you know every other one who is in your top five Chris and low on the Lulu Nj point your own to being your beautiful state right now question a question of questions at coop. Go Pass hip hop hit me. At the very time I I went to America. Eight sixteen for that life. Changing some in highland park and Glencoe and north brought the northern suburbs of Chicago. The one that changed my life that some run the MC's war. This way was in heavy rotation all some along MTV. Blazing away and track fuse. The Rock of aerosmith with the emerging genre of hip hop in a way like Pineapple on Pizza Factory Watermelon Salad will tigers in Oklahoma. Really shouldn't work. Somehow it did raising hell turned me onto hip hop from the opening cup. Peter Piper where it's Mardi grow bells. The album emotionally instead being. Its brassy boasts and beat. Boxing are an art form. I TRY TO EMULATE UNION Liverpool mostly meant spitting on my bedroom Mirror Bay light now. Nothing's changed away number two. I'm working up to the grates. Bougie down productions of that album criminal minded K. R. S. Wont Scotla Raw that chewed given to me by Dutch pen. Pella had cut his so funny hip hop spreading often the Netherlands to Liverpool the son. That really stood out south. Bronx still listen to it about a dozen times a week. But when I was a kid we had no idea what the South Bronx ause but still drove around and around Liverpool bit like Royston drenthe type blasting the track remember Bronx River Rolling. Thank with cool. Dj Red alert and Chuck Chill out on the mix. Oh the Beastie boys of in that the soundtrack for the debauchery that overwhelmed Liverpool of my childhood the pumps and the club's off. I began to take advantage of some of the time. Have now gotten the evening to write about the Beastie boys and their influence omay and the entire city of Liverpool but then they brought with them would probably be my number one public enemy From Yoga Russia show they were so elite they toured England. With the BEASTIE. Boys you can get yours at tinted windows. Say Super bad-looking. Let the car. The Green Hornet had. Hey Top ten life track of old time. In second place they jumping backwards grandmaster flash and the furious five the soundtrack Yes for the Liverpool college breaking create. A love you old school Jeff. Ap's know what? I'm talking about. Infamous my imagination only Liverpool break-dancing posse that always lead member of yet I was one of Liverpool's full breakers for about two minutes solely because yup well I owned a videotape. Let's bust the move have VHS videos are purchased in their fill in Illinois a video which waves moonwalked running man of the Sound Stop Bibo beat said at returned from Chicago. Okay and I've watched that video over and over and because I could pass would say a possible six step. If as being on this mom was more of a five stamp but the only thing that mattered to me was five steps ahead of most everyone else in. Liverpool and on Saturday afternoons at go over to my best mate Tau Smith. It was a file gentleman and we don't congregate in his family lounge the SMOOTHIE family lounge just picture. A sea of Beige Plastic Beige covered couches. Beige Wall to wall carpet. In the shadow of showing baseball units that Bra Jisr and the Beer Sheepskin Rook which the rest of the gang. Lasy member lousy stay Rice Jimmy. Ross all standing awkwardly in front of the families television and video recorder entertainment centers we stake. Let's bust the move into the frontloading video plan. The screen will crackle to life for the image of our educators on a modest sound stage. Three hip hop dances. Oh standing before a couple of bulled up pieces of newspaper which have been scattered to simulate a menacing open environment and there was this incredible voice over merchant. Who'd like crude in the deepest voice? I can't even do it. 'cause it's American American accents terrible. But he'd say if you take it slow and get it right. You'll be the hottest thing along the turf tonight. Oh He'd mumble in this deep baritone mumble which is actually not a helpful white. Say He'd say things I pop in is just sharp jerky moves. Imagine you're machine and it didn't help because we weren't machines but we grow enough confidence on the sheepskin rug from. Oh just dancing forward backwards. Trying to mime these moves the the self consciousness that we'd naturally fail which just shattered smothered overtime eighty by bottle of vodka that Smith liberated from his parents drinks cabinet. Jimmy Ross would flick through the vinyl on the side. And then that always be a moment when he holed up that twelve inch copy of grandmaster flashes pioneering smash the message lifted up as if he'd been awarded a trophy by set. Blatter like a Football Trophy Head Fling. The disc on. We always loved by the way we always loved the B. Side. Mel's Mel's groove missing. Because it had lyrics Smith Liverpool College break dancing crew unite. We had no choice. But to obey the track's rhythmic beats the hand. Claps the spacey. Sonic sounds at filled the room. Which Shuffling Align tentatively at first then finding the rhythm rocking scientist side with synchronized steps along to the tracks lasy with start laying down a beat boxing accompaniment lousy with such a good beat boxer and then smitty would jump in front of us and lay down that I rhyme DNA. Miss Smith. And did I mentioned you. See Me nightly in detention a happy working so hard for about a month to get the nickname raw drew to stick. Even though I knew it was kind of an unwritten rule. The couldn't come up with your nickname. Nevis don't meet try. Never caught on. I'm King Raja. Rock the one thing faster than our teachers can kanus and they are the masters or for off or crap. It didn't matter because by this time we were coordinated. We were exaggerated. We would joy filled in our steps and that music would continue to do. We sang the lines over and over. whatever lines came to all males the accompaniment. Mel's beat saints. Drums fills originally crafted in the South Bronx. Now making all of US Rochow in South Liverpool. We would dance we would. How like Madman Barking at the moon? Oh I don't think I've ever felt more alive. Oh I got a Hat. Not a visor. Drink Budweiser the ten tables up on the drum. Right next question please. Dj Hey garage. I live in Chambers for Pennsylvania Shout out to Rebecca Lowe and Dave. Oh I work at Mercersburg Academy and I support Manchester Stadium. Have for a long time My question is not in regards to different nearly but rather Something less important and I'm I'm about to become a father in about a week and a half. How do I work on my anxiety and my fears of becoming a father during such Incredibly difficult time with the corona virus and everything that's happening in our society and I would love to hear from you. And what are the things that lie ahead for me? And what are the things that books books while not each more a pupil question? Oh congratulations to you and your pa. Now Wha- Giddy Time F- anticipation we all of us. Who are listening to revel in your news. Renewal Joy positivity wonder. Look I always say well only advice is. Don't listen to advice because how you reacted the birth. How you pawn the will react. How your kid will react in many ways? In every way we just don't know until it happens and that combination of all three makes what you about to go who totally totally unique each combination. Each tree to me you your partner. Your baby is utterly singular. It's like a fingerprint or flake of snow or a roby on Premier League. Mornings Finn. I I will tell you this baby's heart beings and we can imagine. Look I if I'm being able to save to have four of them living testament not true. They are hardly and we need purpose in a life. Right now really do you will have one. You'll have an incredibly profound purpose. And then some oh in the most wondrous fashion yet. This is a precarious. May when the pandemic might make you feel that you meant to bring a child into a safe world just when it feels most. Unsafe wonder was sure yet. You having a kid at the perfect telling you wear the all when we had a first. We Hug donated two months at least when we had our first kid. We barely stepped out of the house for each of our kids. We chose an enormous Benjamin television series to watch an episode IV every night the Wire Sampson spooks for bear. So on and so on I mean really we live quarantine life before corentin life was even invented. I'm what say is your to enter an incredibly profound moment of like becoming a father. For the first time a parent apart to a mother would look imperial. It it was for me. Tommy deep introspection instantly about who was who wanted to be started to actually work. A I ever bought the day after Simpson was born said. Don't fare it embracing use this time. Take stock together. Joe Nunez take stock of who you are take stock of the adjustments you make as an individual together as a partner as a father a son and in that regard take care of each other you and your partner and boy or Girl Cola Baby. Nigel send photos carriage. Oh okay that's almost it for this episode of Chuck Shake. Dances won't let you know well couple of things number one just how much we love getting questions here with men in blazes via six four six four five zero knowing four seven to keep cooling. Keep lifting your spirits. We will keep on touring. We'll be back tomorrow but it won't finish by giving a GOP the loss. Would you say one of the things? It's hoping to get through this time or the little snapshots of kindness that you tell us about and I'm GonNa Leave Ye with this this beautiful Rebecca Story. The was phoned into voicemail buying Hada from the magical city of Raleigh North Carolina and this story reads like well. It's like an instagram story. Into the human. So when I heard this story made me think of the lines from the Great Jump Ryan and then the side go hot all strength you. Joan prime fight fight because American. Ej these lines made me an angel that flies from Montgomery make me a poster of an Old Road Da. Just give me one thing that I can hold on safe to believe in this. Living is just a hard way to go. Here is Heather Hi Raj. This is heather from Raleigh North Carolina. I am a West Ham supporter in a horse. More Carolina Courage Wanted to colleges share a little story about our beloved Rebecca Low. I know you sing her praises a lot but I just had an experience with her. That warmed my heart. And Hiller straight what an amazing human she is the other day she posted a lovely little message on her instagram story expressing that she was thinking about all the folks who are quarantining alone because a lot of folks are finding to wait and a silver lining to this situation because they get to spend more time with their family. But there's so many folks who are who are stuck by themselves through this pretty scary and and isolating time and so. My mom saw that and responded to her to tell her about me her daughter and how I was stuck three states away and she was so worried about me quarantining by myself and how much I would appreciate that that message that she had posted and of course I saw her story as well and also gave her a response. We'll rebecca seen that. Both my mom and I had responded to this message. That really meant a lot to us. Went above and beyond. She chatted with my mom for a little bit. She posted on her story. A personal message to me sending me love and hope And strength while I spend this time by myself during quarantine she'd been sent me messages. That were just so sweet and kind. She told me I could reach out to her. Whenever I needed a little virtual hug via instagram. She sent love to my cat Maui from her cat button. And when she found out that I had planned to attend the fans in Philadelphia that was unfortunately postponed until further notice. She expressed that. She wanted me to reach out to her whenever. That event is rescheduled so that I can meet a person and get a real hook so I just wanted to share that I know how lovely she you know that she already is. But it just meant so much to meet a time when I am by myself and I am feeling lowly really missing primarily football and all the lovely coverage that we get from the team at NBC sports. And so. I just hope that everybody can see the kindness and love that she gives to everyone through the experience and and Kinda take a page out of her books and and keep spreading love and and hope and I appreciate you for doing that as well and all the extra coverage that you're giving us through the pod and the Raven. I love it so much and it helps me feel connected to not only the game of football that I love so much but also the wonderful communities that I feel a part of because of the sport.

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Men in Blazers 06/22/20: WGFOP: The Bald

Men In Blazers

25:00 min | 4 months ago

Men in Blazers 06/22/20: WGFOP: The Bald

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca. If you listen to sub radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers. On the NBC, Sports Network. It's road. and. It's Monday not just any Monday, but one which harshly bushing partially because while. The Premier League is back and it was humanly magic to see Rebecca. Dazzling on television screens again all weekend long and not just any weekend, but one in which Everton football club totally battered Liverpool. And by battered, I mean held on for dear life against his subpar rusty opponent for a single point. Point the ballots will be written about generations Tom Davis you hit the post wire why Lord? We will unsee questions about that game. We'll say took about also football club with a deep empathy tenderness. Pay Offs West Ham, you know he did with slightly less empathy tenderness, pay offs, and Lord and Savior Christian Pulisic. The, winner of Hershey Pennsylvania chocolate belonged the last twenty one seasons. Running should say I'm also buzzing. Because the very first thing I did this morning is chat with Tottenham home, insult that is stowing your week off right? Wa burst of Energy and joy as an approach to football and approach to life that the world needs right now. Don't believe me his a burst of Sony ways the source off and secret to joy. My nonce, my family healthy real hub. What I. And Premium, you. As while the dream tried to be. Steve I'm trying to enjoy every single woman. Since when are great gobs listening I mean? Even when I go sleep, I'm finding. Smile when you sleep dance on the ceiling. Both of those are my life goals, and that interview will debut on the men in Blazers show on NBC. Sports this Thursday at six PM eastern time it will be magic, slightly less my chick. They spoke cost WGC the bold. Let Sting get up. Close Some. Now. Oh circuit now I don't know Faina sting to play as a Merseyside Derby fight song that one composed by Curtis beach and is immensely talented daughters. Brace yourself your questions called into us at all hotline, six, four, six, four, five, zero, nine, four, seventy. Cool, they right now six, six, full, five, zero, knowing full seventy or ounces silently. That's impressive to the questions producer Jona O and Dave Oh. Football is back. My question to you guys is at what point this weekend did you realize we weren't just? It was a football weekend. It was truly back. Was it Chelsea having seventy five percent possession still trailing West L. The break was that the theatrics of Mike Dean realizing he once again to me the center of the show, or was it seeing captain, America trending and realizing they were talking about Christian. Pulisic and another marvel movie. Thank you MENA blazers. Cheers come on, you, boys Detroit City I C- can't wait to hear from you guys soon. Oh, talking about producer, Joanna ease. And he wrote the saddest answer for this. He said I realized football was real when I wound up in a bloody awful mood, Saturday, because of one the more pay Neil effing more pay more on vast in a moment. Look the football. Call it. It's mixed. If a ban on the teams arrest the fitness levels or a injuries for to prevalent book, it was wonderful, bloody wonderful to have fullback for so many reasons Kyle Martinos George Michael. Father figure era, airing the saxophonist wafting joy division's Love Will Terrassa Paul from just outside of Goodison poked during the Dobie. You know those are both remarkable I. Love most about football being back as the global conversation that feeling of togetherness the I felt to be honest after the Christian Pulisic goal in the Chelsea Villa gain. The feeling that semi athletic good. It happened some genuinely filled with hope. Couple of year rain is assist in the Bundesliga that day before summing failed good summing the men, nothing can everything. That genuinely connects us no matter where we saw no matter who we are politics or religions VAT VAT. A unifying power of sports unified power of the Premier League in that back when I felt that was when bellied, welcome back football. Question to. Chad from Queens New York here I'm Liverpool Fan who is a bigger disgraced. Their club is at Lovran. Or that guy from arsenal gun source who a lovran Goner Source! Cheers! Guys Bye! Chattan Queens. Don't you do GONNA suicide? Going to show us as well. Probably one of the McCullough is only friends right now Dejean love Ron. Put Him into context. He's one of the few legacies on this squad of club Liverpool. One Point Zero I wish there were more. He's an inherited Pau. Really of the Brendan Rodgers era. When dejean arrive from Southampton, then he played alongside. The likes have moth in skirt. Muhammadu Sakho I love these days frankly preferred them to Liverpool of today. Is Tolima Pantheon of greatest Liverpool players time alongside the likes of Djibril Cisse and Loris. Carry us. He's had limited player, but the, plus why is he still at Public Kissy? Other squad members seem to love him. He's not guy in the locker room lodge in life fun, loving, joyful plays an important role, an incredibly important role in a Liverpool football club that they genuinely when you with them seem to love being together the amount of laughter on that training ground. Yes, we see the mental focused the tenacity, the duration of detail. The yergin cloth is well. It's also an incredibly fun, loving bunch and when you watch Liverpool, train they China's actually at the center of much that Lofta the epicenter. There's a to the NFL I about him. You get what you get with. deja lover and fluids and all, but he seems to be loved in that luxury, and in terms of the Darby. It was an okay flat game at disappointing. Game Liverpool definitely had much more quality than evidence efforts in public hustled more admirably through a drab game. Liverpool. Masala is runs behind. They really miss to me and the Robertson A. With trend stretches teams forces teams to decide which flank. They're gonNA seed, but when you look overall, Liverpool dominated possession wise, but Everton had the better chances, and that was thanks decision, seventeen minute disaster class, which which really blacked bell dovid Louise Level Self. Sabotage is rich. All listen to him ragged. Jamie Carragher in the studio. Could not hide his disdain compensated with Gary. Neville on the skype your cost. Let's take a listen. By own says Mike Date. Guy To the name. Of Mike Jordan himself. Maybe. That was the wrong decision. Tell you. WHAT THE RIGHT DECISION! Play on Lovgren! Henderson. categorize. A bit in the post game I think hit. Absolutely right in terms of what's wrong with him, he's too emotional. Lots always been his problem. He always fails. Yes, the win. A fight has to win a challenge. Carragher said I used to play that position as a centre back in at times you have to accept some may be stronger and quicker. You have to get yourself into positions than try and hold them up as in football so in life and I will rue that Tom Davis Post. For the rest of some of have got to be honest in a way I'm glad. Him? I'm glad Everton didn't win. Pay Me out. This is this is war. My emotions were. Elated that Liverpool did not win, but if Everton had one. To ensure all Liverpool funds, Bain light for the next decade. The only time you could, sauce is what I to crowd like when we. Rap took the title and couldn't be honest. As Liverpool the Narrative Today It's been hilariously hauch. Newspapers filled with what's wrong with Liverpool Stories Liverpool of now just one two out of the lost seven games I mean. There's been a three-month read between the loss. Much this woman and you know there's been a pandemic. They have no played that much football to get match fit that is what's wrong with Liverpool. They've still only lost once all season. Drouin now twice all season. They will win the league. We don't have to take down their achievement. It is remarkable, just saving. On Thursday night, we will take on the men in blazers shared. She got an interview with trend Alexander on old and I. Love it because it was one of the most poetic of heard in a long time. Listen to this and tell me you do not fail full. This young play a local kid who dreamed and yearned I as a fan. The made these dreams Jennings Rail. As a grown man, his Trent I knew you focus game to game opponent to opponent on the big issue at all. They occasionally I. Mean you a local lab from a family read true scouser. You ever allow yourself to think about that big Joe! Winning the Premier League in how close you? Are GonNA. Do you think about that a law? You think the field that be. Can you give to hold the trophy off the mouth around there? Even though you want to get my game, you're still golf, goals and aspirations and nonetheless. League no matter what. Anyone says that's all this of dot all thinking about. That's Trent Alexander now. Five points away from the promised land more from him on the menin blazes this Thursday night at six PM. Eastern time on NBC S at Jose. Manny from Milwaukee Wisconsin arsenal supporter. And my question is well arsenal. Ever win another premier league or really any soccer game again. Losing to Brighton. Money that one her. Premier League scriptwriters. You have zero chill! Ninety th minute winner scoop by Neil. Mo- pay the minute you go. Keep it out to the game. If it ever, he'll move and then. God had the temerity to take to the pace my interviews. And say this. Also players. Neutral on. Unity maybe sometimes. They've been talking first half cycle half when they were. Welcome back also football club to defeat in seventy two hours. Look I. Think to some degree. The overall right now has the bay. overreacted this first week of performances. The play is all not match fit. The squads are easing their way back. The lack of atmosphere takes him gain used to, but when a staint chill have been the Austin White, so. His thing to freakout about. Mikhailov tighter. Handsome Fowler. But not approve manager, and that also locker room has so many complex management time bombs to defuse. David Louise Mazza. Ouzo Obama Young. In a way Nicholas Pasia Jack and Doozy Genton, who showed more fight at the final whistle? When he put me pay, then he did join the entire game, and for tetter the stakes couldn't be higher. Also missile champions the again and the gap between them, and the superclubs continues to widen with the likes walls and Lester please God Everton arguably better position to close it. You look at the fixtures, Southampton, Sheffield Norwich Await Arteta has to take six points from those three because after that. Also a running the goal that Wolves Leicester Tottenham Liverpool. Won't life true thing? By days for all snow, great days for Arsenal Fan TV, which somehow in its social distancing new reality, has become even more filled with pathos fruit language, warning offs. and He's been lose. Laurie. Learn. Sake rat above. Ido Cabinet who wanted. To take a full of US this season. Do any take a full of the. Right for the whole outfit taken four points off new. CARE. Let that sink in Toronto. Pebble and speaks of rock blood. Known for several. Troops. Touch so down full blood. Next Question Raj is Brendan Corley calling from Atlanta Manchester United, and obviously. US MNT rewatching the Chelsea game right now and looking at baby Jesus just destroy us and Villa from the fifty ninth minute on and found something today on twitter that I thought was interesting. Someone pointed out that Frank Lampard follows all of the Chelsea team. Except for Christian Pulisic so went and checked and turns out. This is actually true. Wanted to hear your thoughts on. If Frank Lampard might have something against Christian Pulisic. If Christian Pulisic might have You know something that's pissing him off maybe as Dads to involved, wanted to hear your thoughts. I thought that was kind of an interesting little tidbit. So love your show love what you guys do and looking forward to hearing from you guys take Care Brenton less for WOM- movement celebrate. Christie and politic- I'll say this. I felt no small relief when he came on for his first premier league action since January the first. Strolled onto the failed as a fifty-fifth minute substitute, and then just needed four minutes to make an impact jabbing home is seth go? Lindsay's Chelsea a late for poche run a good finish Franklin. Padron finish to be honest. The KRISZTIAN could've Joe Ellington if he wanted, but he didn't and it was a relief. Because Christians they season has been stop start. Stop Stop and the reality is Chelsea next season thought five minutes is only going to be more brutal so many big name arrivals teammate Verna Hakim more coming. No doubt at Chelsea so is a joy to have frank polled took about ludens savior off to the game. He Will Stoke Games for us of course I think he's going to be a big play for us, not just in the running, but going forward. And then he said this Christine was hungry I know that and I felt for him as feel for the players with long-term injuries which to me to. Was Franklin pods. Of hinting at his mom management sleight of hand that is using with Pulisic in this moment in time. He knew Christian was hungry. He knew Krisztian was biting in the. But you stop police it in this game, and then let's say he doesn't have an impact and you have to sub him off. Then you have a player, a necessarily filled with self doubt. WHY TAKE THAT RISK SOM? Ease him. And then you have to plus of a player desperate to make an impact that you can motivate. Give Him something to keep striving for working towards a starting place, which he will have earned by the way. Going to say this. This will not go down well in the United States or parts. We don't like him Mesa Amount Mason Mount was a sparkplug yesterday. He is a great young plan. And then. We Americans are meant proper him so that we can fail. There is an anti-american attitude blocking Christian, but the reality is. Christian he's wary should be right now. Let's be aware we look at the world from our vantage point as us, soccer fans, and that vantage point is, let's admit it. It's the wrong end of a telescope. We are focused on only seeing the world through Christians is American soccer fans. You know we are we are. We're a Christian Pulisic site. That's what we are so to me. In reality, yesterday's was informed. Because it gives palisades first season some breadth of success. He didn't just score in a couple of games back in October and full off flicker, and then fail. The narrative will now be. Found his feet. With tenacity after struggling early contributed, look so lively was then injured, came back and showed he could do it again. He's hungry and he will be a factor next season which when you look at all scenarios very first year for Christian, Pulisic for a first shift any twenty one year old with so much to prove the scenarios between instant superstar all the way. Teresa Total Bust Frederick Voice Style Christians in place debate. And the only thing I think we could add in terms of an improvement. Is this suggestion by J I wrote twenty one who says NBC needs to incorporate and Eagle coal into the fake crowd noise every time politic schools so here it is at. The sound of politics scoring a golden moment for American football funds relief filled triumph plus Manhattan's not that. Extra Stars and Stripes Glory. Single. For this. Just. Makes, the PUCK. Pack, Chelsea. Our! America one, final question. Hey Roger. This is Dante from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. I say this. My beloved West Ham inching closer and closer to the abyss no Nashville allegation. After this weekend. My I'm not very confident that we will survive. My question is. Is there any bright side going down to championship? Defense, it could always be worse than take. What's happened to West Ham? It breaks my hall one minute you singing this. PLOY TO BE TRAE. Play Dimitri Tree Pyeho was what he walked. Bad Pet, the Obama Ingram was upton park, a face, old stadium that smell proper football short so tin generations of Spill Ale spilt blood a memories, and then you move into the London stadium was meant to. Drag the ions into the twenty first century as true London challenges. The next moment you called David Moyes the mortician football managers just. Yanking team into the relegation zone grimly with taught them and Chelsea you next two games, and he likes football fan versions of David Byrne. And you may ask yourself. How did I get here? So I say I feel fully West Ham. Fans partially because. I am. This team historically. So very much and also because. What's happened to you could happen to any of us. mid-table teams with deeply aspiring fan bases, and an onus positioning those fans as yes aspire strapped wax wings onto our backs and head for the Sun Uranus. Sullivan goal to former pornographers, and then we've in football as the dill day. Brothers awful awful taking a club. Whose history and traditions of payless and a fan base of Delhi hordes violating the former taking the latter for granted. Just tending the clubs, these system upside down low. West Ham. You have been relegated. You have been promoted during the Premier League two thousand three two thousand eleven. This is not a new thing. But I'm going to say this. This is the single worst season to be relegated in the Premier League's history the pandemic season. Pandemic which with its economic meltdown the company is only going to exacerbate the gap between the haves and have not in real life. The rich get rich. In real life so in football and I can't think of a worse more seismic. To be spat out through the relegation moon door into the second tier, the championship for a club especially like West Ham is run so recklessly it could be, it could be a financial nightmare. I think of the Warren Buffet. It's only when the tide goes out. You see who have been swimming naked. West Ham financially the way they are run. Swimming naked. Thames you question about? If there's a silver lining about playing down a level, you know, I made a film about nor at City the ultimate Yoyo Club. Who Keep bouncing up and down there stay in the Premier League is is always borough time. Many of the fans I interviewed. They're not beautiful, beautiful city. Many of them said. Pads she preferred the winning seasons in the championship, playing to the clubs, true financial level to being in the premier league fleetingly. I'm being on the receiving end of thrashing of the thrashing of the threshing that they that's not West Ham streaks. Westheimer a club, the as aspire to be a London, big boy to cat jet with Austin Tottenham. Stop being the Daniel Baldwin Baldwin brothers. He will always have one thing. The others don't donate Dante. They can never take your bubbles away from me. But we back tomorrow.

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Senator Cory Booker on NCAA Reform, Speaking on the Senate Floor, the Criminal Justice System, and Fighting for a Better America | Flying Coach With Steve Kerr and Pete Carroll

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Senator Cory Booker on NCAA Reform, Speaking on the Senate Floor, the Criminal Justice System, and Fighting for a Better America | Flying Coach With Steve Kerr and Pete Carroll

"Flying Coach welcome back. A little bit of a hiatus peak, but we're. We're back after a few weeks. Yeah good to be back because the. July fourth in the middle of all this, and so we're back at it. Kind, of really close it out, and it's It's been really an extraordinary opportunity for myself personally to work with you Steve On. This has been such a blast and and. Really grateful for the opportunity that we were given to to do the work we wanted to do here. Yeah, I agree that this is the spent so much fun, and it's been fantastic working with this'll be our last one in. We wanted to take a few minutes here before we. Have our guest. Senator Cory Booker on who is just brilliant and such an amazing guest, but just wanted to take a couple of minutes to. Talk a little bit about the sports world. What's going on today? Where the NFL is were the? NBA is and then share a little bit about You know these these last few months. Who why we've done this podcast and where we're heading, and will roll right in with with Corey P. You WanNa share where you guys are the seahawks NFL. What's What's the schedule now going into training camp? Normally, you'd be going into camp. What end of July right Undergrad? Or still on schedule with at this time it has not been committed to by the League in the players. Association yet, but the twenty first is when the young guys can show up in the twenty eighth veterans will be. Ready, to go to camp, that's kind of been orchestrated by the CVA all long, but there's still agreements that need to be settling, so we're unsettled at this time we don't know. Exactly, they talking almost on a daily basis to try to come to agreements on all the different issues and we're still waiting for confirmation. But, in that, you know I'm hoping that if we. whatever time it takes to do, this right is important. There's so much at stake here. And of course everybody wants a football season I can't even imagine anything, but that happening in timely fashion here, but whatever it takes to get their properly so that we can take care of everyone like we need to There's it's not just there's no one single group it's. It's players. It's their families. It's the coaches. It's their families. That's our support group. Their families are fans. Everyone that is connected here. We WanNA. Take every step to do this properly in thoughtfully, and and so that once we get back, we can stay back in really put something together, so there's still a lot of unanswered questions still and as the twenty first is the. The date that the that the rookies could officially be with us the couple of days before that to test their way into to the quarantine of it, and and then the veteran players would come in on the twenty eighth would be the first day that they would have their physicals and our first meetings. We're going to be virtual. We're going to be you know. Know. We're GONNA do all kinds of things differently than we've done in the past, but yet we have prepared for that. You know with with all of the virtual work. We've done this off season. So the work will do. We'll basically be on the field walk-throughs. An practice will be out on the field and out of the building, other than the absolute minimum. That, we can put them through so the lot of considerations and. It always! We're watching here. You know watching basketball and baseball there started. It's taking them a while to get started. We need the information that they can bring to us so that we can make good choices. and. We're starting to gain some stuff, so maybe can help us with what's going on with basketball. Yeah Yeah so you know. Twenty two teams of in in Orlando the bubble. They're calling it and. You know I I. Really have a lot of respect for the players and coaches and all the. Referees and media members you know people are are making big sacrifices going away from their families. You know the two teams that end up assuming this thing works out and goes the full distance. Two teams go to the finals will end up being in the bubble for three months. which is just crazy but this is the world we're living in these days. Everybody's trying to adapt and and figure out their situation We are the warriors. Warriors are one of eight teams that because of our record that you know has was not invited to Orlando and so right now we have our young players coming in working out individually one player one coach at our facility in San Francisco, no team. Activities are allowed at this point and the one thing that's kind of interesting that I that I wanna ask you about two of the NFL is what makes US A. A little tricky for the NBA. Every state, every city's got a different set of regulations, health and safety protocols so would. How does that manifest itself in the NFL like what what if the state of Washington has a completely different set of rules in the state of Florida and Washington Says No. You guys got a shutdown. Florida's Says No. You guys are good. How does the NFL handle that? If once camp starts now, I don't know exactly how the. The particulars have come about and if it settled yet, but I do know that there's been work done from the NFL with the governors of the states to find some an agreement on clearance to allow us to go back to the buildings in the facilities that I think that leads us into the next step, which which is having camps, and then, and then what happens at the stadiums that could be very different different from one state to the next. Week maybe there'd be. Some. States will allow fans that come in and limited basis and other states that don't I don't think all of that. I've not seen where that's all set at this point. So. That's still in negotiations. I would imagine there are some states already that have. Three or four of them that have not. Cleared the way and so but I know the leagues all over it, and then they'll figure that out I can't imagine that they won't come to some kind of agreement, but it could easily happen. Circumstances within a particular state could shift it just as we watched. There's so many states in different status. Status Right now. The could restricted the action I. There's there's a lot of unknowns and there's a lot of questions to be answered yet, and and that's some of the big ones that that's still a ways off I think we're really going. Let's try to get us to camp right now. And those those will be answered later on, but I think you know there's a consideration that the states wanna make. They wanted to happen. Just like we all want to see football when. When kids go back to school well, we're working to be real that that's that's the baseline. Everybody gets that that's that should govern what we what should govern what we do is doing the right thing to keep our people safe, and and and to make progress in key people from passing. You know and all that, so we had to every camp do that. Yeah, no, no doubt and we're. We're We're waiting to hear whether there's going to be A. Well we I call it. The JV bubble for the eight teams. That didn't didn't make the Orlando bubble. There may be a second bubble in Chicago. The League has talked about it for sometime time in September where the other teams. Would gather and and. be able to practice because the one thing that all of the coaches of of and general managers of the teams that aren't in Orlando. The one thing that's consensus. It's not good to go nine straight months without playing any basketball between March of last season, and then the beginning of next season in December, so we're trying to to figure it out, too, but like you said everything's sort of day day and I guess we'll learn from baseball opening days in. About two weeks I think so we'll see how major league baseball does. I've been watching some premier league. Liverpool Fan I. IF I wake up and watch a Premier League, they're pumping. Fan Noise into the stadiums in it. It's actually been pretty entertaining, so the golf has been work in good I. Don't think you're missing much with without fans in golf personally but It's It's good to at least as a sports fan to start getting to to watch some stuff on TV and we've been so privileged to have so much around us. You know for entertainment and all, and if in the event that we don't get as much, we're just gonNA have to suck it up. You know what I mean. He's going to get through it because this is not going to last forever, but it is going to be temporary, and it doesn't seem like it now, but we'll be back the things as normal eventually, but in the meantime everybody's adapting, and everybody has to Kinda just tough it out and grit it out and in suck it up and and We have to do the same you know. If if there is nine months go through a whole year goes without us playing sports. Let's if it's pretty relative. Everybody's going to be at the same stage as I've always go back to. That helps me rationalize. It will make it you know and we'll. We'll get back in order in all of that, so I saw the stay healthy. Stay safe as we're doing this. That's that's what's most important right now. Yeah, no Dow and wear a mask. No matter where you are new all do all of the is to all the right things that exactly. We'll speaking to wedge. When we started this back in I guess April early. April was our first podcast. You know the the main thing we wanted to do was raise some money for covert relief so we we put this podcast together and spotify made thousand dollar dome donations to the Seahawks Foundation and the Warriors Foundation. We were also trying to think maybe we can keep. Some people entertained a little bit. You know talk about our sports. Give people a little different perspective on the. Job, coaching and coaching from two different sports in getting different perspectives on things and. And then it, it's it really We start having guests and we have some. Guests, Brunei, Brown was was was great. You guys have worked together for. Last couple years I think right. Yes, yeah, help us be courageous and be vulnerable and. How that's US teaching. She coached this up. She was great and and We had a couple of baseball. Guest Day Robert Scott Boras came on Bill, Murray just volunteered to come on and entertain us, which was great, completely changed it up with some humor and Michael Lewis. The author WE WANNA. Thank him as well. We want to thank all of our guests. They were blew us away. Really amazing mannered. Yeah, it was. It was beautiful. It's always wonderful to to heared smart people and their perspective, and you know everybody's sort of sitting in a different seat, and observing and an so funding to get everybody's views, but really. Everything changed couple months ago. with the murder of George Floyd and the Social Justice Movement that began, and it really shifted the entire focus of this podcast, and the last few weeks have been really Emotional and fascinating and illuminating. I thought the PA Gregg Popovich was incredible as a great one and Doc rivers. You know talking about growing up as the son of a policeman in a Chicago suburb. Was I'll never forget. His stories and just his perspective amazing. Yeah, that's we've been so fortunate to everybody's. Buddy has been highlight. You know I go all the way back to Dave. When we had baseball basketball and football on a thrill for me, you know that we representing all the major. These I thought that was really something, but pop really was there right at after the event took place in gave us a chance for three white guys coaches to tell people talk about white issues, black issues and make sense and learn and go back in history issues in the so much stuff we've been. We've been fortunate to to touch on I. It's. It's been a great a great thrill. Doc Rivers was really another highlight. 'CAUSE DOC is so clear about his upbringing, and what it was like to grow up as a young black man with the father that was in law enforcement, and what it was like to be from that perspective, and how to deal with with law enforcement soon as they walked across the the threshold of their little community where they lived. You know all things change. Oh, man was so much real so much truth and I. Hope People I hope people were. Opened up to some of what we need to learn about what's going on in their cultures around us, and so that can be more caring and loving in in and fight for the right things you know for all off all people you know you know after doc. After doc shared that story talking about you know his father, saying look you're. You're okay. Right here I think. Maywood was how they grew up and. Said you're okay. Right here, but as soon as you leave May. Would you gotta be really careful? Because the policemen outside of Maywood are not GonNa know who you are and you better, you better be on your best behavior. You better, you better not screw up. You could be in real trouble after that podcast. A good family friend of ours texted me, and said I grew up in the next town over from Maywood. and. My family said whatever you do. Don't into Maywood So think about the irony of this a white person white family saying you know, don't go into Maywood dangerous there. Doc rivers father, the policeman, saying you know if you leave Maywood, that's where the danger begins, and this whole culture of fear that we all experience at some level, yeah, and and and that was gosh forty years ago. We're talking about. That's a commonplace illustration of of white reference in growing up and black, referencing growing up at absolutely opposite of each other. In our lives to so many of our years we were aware of things, but yet we didn't talk about them. We didn't know how to express her feelings, or we just ignore them and and. Rightfully so. Now. We can't do that anymore and hopefully Steve. We've been able to your maybe motivated a little bit in people to keep looking and keep studying in open up. We have the fortunate I I know. We talked about it. In one of our shows early on the, but sharing the stories of our players is something that we always go through sharing the stories of our players through this virtual year. Year on on the Internet was was extraordinarily impactful and moving in and it is, it is how you can grow in awareness is by knowing someone else's played in life in their story. And until you have that opportunity, you really can't, and we can't even experience it, but we can at least embrace it and empathize, and and make the right decisions to to support accordingly you know and and. I just hope everybody. At this time. Steve continues to be open to the world around us will. We can realize how important to love everyone into care for everybody, and they all need our care and love, and in all directions and. There's GonNa. It's calling for a big change because there's a lot of people that don't think that way, and there's a lot of people think you should let these people and those people you don't and we have to work our way through that with with. You know with great resolve in and and we. We have to do this. You know so. I'm hopeful we could. We affected some in some ways in through the show you said it has got to be done with empathy and with humility, and and and then I think the thing I've learned you know in an Pete I've watched you inaction with the seahawks. seahawks I've I've sat in on your your practices. Your meetings and you've always had this incredible culture where there's this beautiful interaction human interaction and I've tried to to create something similar with the Warriors, but when I've learned during this time is it's it's not enough you know. We gotta go dig even deeper. You know we we've got a really try to. To understand where our players came from, and you know. How do you as a coach? How do you create the culture that allows that sort of conversation to happen organically I think that's the challenge. That coach is face out there, but it's critical. Because the more we can understand each other with empathy with humanity We'd better better chance we have. have of of creating change Brett Brown really. She addressed that exact thought when she said what we have to do is create a container. It's avail the surround your group where it's Ok to address. All of the issues inexpressive all of your concerns, and that's where we can and we have to make it so so there's an environment where it's okay. To to take the chance to tell somebody how you actually feel and what it really feels like, and and that's that's where the the whole thing is all about, and that container is to create the kind of A. Vacuum of courage where everybody can speak out, and we have to do that way beyond just our own little teams, we this has to happen everywhere, and so hopefully we can continue to to show that thought and help in no doubt. No doubt coming up next year cory booker, just an amazing guest and I think the perfect way to to kind of finish out this this podcast that we've been running the last few months so. Our guest today Cory Booker Senator from New Jersey. Corey thank you so much for joining us There's so much going on in the world today and sports and social issues and politics have all converged. It's become a big topic in our podcast so thank you. Thanks for coming in. Are you kidding me? I'm grateful I. So much admiration for the two of you and what you do on and off the court and feel it's You real leaders and I'm I'm grateful. Chance to be in dialogue. That sounds good, but we're. We may be coaching. Yep, a little bit today that's. I appreciate that I. Appreciate it listen. You're trying to get over your sins of your earlier career. Coaching in the wrong part of the pack ten I understand. You. Have you know you're living with a lot of guilt I? I did inherit an issue that Coach John McKay the hall of fame coach. Had passed along that the toughest ever had to play with Stanford and year a year and I'm telling you it for whatever reason USC Stanford ahead that deal so I, but I do welcome the chance to being the true competitor. The fact that you guys kicked our button more than you should have. I want to make sure that we do. Let it out that you were pretty darn good football player back in the day. I understand, and it'll tied in action and all that kind of stuff. The older I get, the better I was. But I did get into the end zone against USC, which is still one of. My proudest days but I'll tell you. One of my favorite moments in football was It was I was playing Maher and You. Guys have all this strategy big screens. Going Hollywood when you're playing. And I did the whole week I've been watching films. I. Was do I was going to be going. Hell of the helmet against junior say out. and. So it was one of the earliest place you know. You have all that adrenaline I usually. Don't settle down until after I had. A little bit, and then selling to a game and I remember hitting I'm also one of these guys never thought never not a fighter. Never I believe you do it. Between the whistles back to the huddle a I everything. I had I- coiled up wall the whole week of study and ration- I'm coming after this guy and I hit junior. Say how and it is like hitting a wall and and and whistle blows. I'm still trying to hit him pushing the. I feel somebody grammy for behind them like Oh. This is USC. Somebody's got me for. And I look over. My shoulder is one of my players. Hold me back through huddle. Out He goes. What are you crazy? Don't make that guy man. Sound Advice! Sleeping giant that's. I've got I've got a brush up on my Stanford football history, but so I'm thinking so. This would have been early nineties. I played late eighties early nineties two great coaches. I play the ended the Elway era, and then I got a master's class, because I had any green Brian Billick. Timer willing. Hands Release just rape coaches that. so much about the game and about life, and just was a blessing for me as I was sort of coming on my own and emerging. At sort of really cheap or my life when I was citing sort of where I was going with my life and had a chance to play into those guys, that's that's cool. You're giving credit to your coaches because you've gone a long way since that now man, you've done a lot of stuff. GOLLY! We had said this off the lessons that you get from four. In everything away my earliest leadership roles you know captain of my football team in high school in. The Band of brothers going up against impossible odds, you know we had one of the most losing. His teams or era in Ice Louis. My. I was never known for football and we came in our era. One stay challenge anyone another one years later, but that just that goes back be forged in adversity and. The lessons you learn the foundation which I stand on so I credit football on personal I wouldn't have gotten into Stanford. I saw joking. I got into Stanford because of over four point Oh, sixteen hundred or yards for carrying sixteen. Yard. So I know I know I know how I got into Stanford because I was ice bowl American in a great year I got. My USA all American team met up. People like Emmett Smith on it and others I was most overrated. Player I think in the history. SO I? Also watch the game, and and so much of what I am right now still leaves on lessons learned. On the. Isn't that true so so much of the stuff we're just built on. You know in earlier days even back to early days in high school, and all the challenges that make the teams and the coaches and play with upperclassmen, and how difficult it was. All of those challenges at add to our make up today and. I know we're all grateful for all of that, too. So you also know that it, and this is what I you know. Build Radley's migrate life, mentors and I still remember in ninety two I was a Stanford I hadn't didn't know Bill Bradley yet, but he gave a speech on the Senate floor about race. This is in the months. around running king and verdicts and a berry painful up time for my life. It had been about a decade of my life better. I was You know my family to move into the town at rupp. These really Nice suburbs in New Jersey. They had to get white, full and sixty nine. The hoses then in order by house, grew up in and other data close a when they revealed the state operation the real estate agent. To sling at the a real estate agent punched in the face, sitting on my dad's all this rigmarole, and we moved into this town and black kids when they're rolling up. Young Black men I was twelve thirteen years old up sixty all and. Began to realize that this world was going to do differently because of my size, because received fear at a lot of elders in my life coming around me, trying to teach lead to recognize how I affected other people, and by the time I got a driver's license going the white neighborhood you. You see that you get treated differently by the police while by the time a decade from twelve thirteen to twenty two. When the Rodney King verdict happened, it was explosive moment in my life I literally wrote columnist for newspaper. That is still. They just called me recently nasty reprint, as you could use the same article just separating the name Rodney King. Many the names, and fortunately we know now and i. just remember that night. The articles, a wet lost controls at decades worth of checks. Suppressed anger rage and I remember marching, but during that time built Radley. Roque Davis Bridge speech on the Senate floor about race. And I remember talking to him later about it, and he just said to be as guide Ronan plane this. How he something about sports when you strip everything away, and it's just you and your teammates, and you are bonded together with them in common costs under under your sweating with them bleeding with them, he said opened his eyes a guy from I think he's from Indiana. so much race race reality seeing based his peers, and his players is so is always been funding about sports to me or the men who who play or men and women. Who Play it seized wrote. It seems to deepen levels, empathy, and understanding and connection after potential always do. Of of creating a common cause of were ideals of fair treatment and justice, so I offered that. Right now is an opportunity I loved him I remember one day I set it off flipping through the channels of different four channels, and I was just so thrilled every sports, gentle lights, which to they were talking about some aspect of this racial reckoning, our country and speaking in a way that know most of America doesn't watch Fox Watch, MSNBC they watch sports channels, and or this to be an avenue, which due to the consciousness of the country it's it's a it's A. It's a good. Corey, did you have a sense of all this when you went off to Stamford? I mean you you you go you go clear across the country. Obviously you love football. You're excited to play college sports, but you're heading to one of the great universities in the country. Was this was there a sense that you were heading in this direction? with your mind and your career were maybe you get into politics. Did you have ideas at that age yet? You know public enemy had a great in the as as. Back don't believe the hype. And so I I may have gotten a really celebrated high school football player, but I. didn't. I didn't I had a very good dose of reality. That you know in my mind? Football was going to be my change. It wasn't my destination. And I was GONNA ride. That tickets could go, but the reason why picked. Samper Guy Who got recruited from just about every university out there I remember looking at USA Today's rankings of College School of colleges and I thought that your. They Stanford above arbiter gallon, like if I could get a full scholarship to the best academic school will give me yet another part of brick and foundation to do what I wanted to do with my life, which by the time is was? My freshman year at Stanford as low player I began working that summer. Stay on campus work out of working in these allow. eastbound lots of area with. Incredible young kids from. A tougher background I had that was that forged in the clarity that I wanted to be involved and the fight. For the unfinished business American and it comes from having black parents who were civil rights, activists, and really raised my brother and I. Should say you know. We drink deeply from wells of freedom and liberty and opportunity. Did you know it'd be like the walk around the house? Like get a triple? You were born on base and you can't pay back. You gotta pay it forward. So I wrote this sensitive the Black Kid. I hadn't. Privileges handed to me. Will Scholarship Stanford. Odd this incredible school. Literally people had a bleed. A bunch. gave me to move into that town of firstlight family, so I just had the sense that I wanted to do something that I felt like I was making a contribution to this country. Sue Bad you couldn't get into Arizona, but I'm glad Santa. Stanford McHugh safety school seems to have worked out pretty well for you I. I. Literally have a star of my back from playing Arizona. Of Great parts of the. Actual as well but what a privilege it is as you guys out make. Your on your career. One thing I love and respect to do is that. May Be your career, but it's only part of a larger mission that we all have life and people who are blessed play the echelons, and you guys have coaches. Who understand that that's a lot of power and privilege, and that we all have an obligation to use our power privilege. To help others backs me is what you know as I learned my life? It's not what you do whether you work on wall, street or Teaching in high school. It's it's. It's what you are able. How many people were able to impact to make a difference in the lives of? Your journey, so I appreciate you guys living with that spirit, and especially during these. Did you touch on something for like the reason that Stephen I got together to do this this podcast back was back in April I. Guess we started talking about it was You know to see if during these times you know everybody's kind of shut down. Maybe we could help. The whole covert situation raised a little bit of money, but also just get on the topics in the subject matter that might be able to share the experiences that we've had in how we've seen things, and then then as the world continued to shift at so many things continued to happen. Our topics just jumped in. It's really really crucial areas conversation. As White, guys coaching in in this business. We've been coaching black kids our entire life we've been. My coaching careers longer than Steph's. It's just been such an avenue into the in into the inside look at a young men's lives in their backgrounds and their families and their histories that have given us an opportunity to understand the world in a unique way for for white guys in in in in a way. We have mailed influence in helping. We'll continue to do so so we really appreciate you contributed with us because this is really what we. We came here to do this particular project. Well, I appreciate your ability. It's amazing. How in a time where? So, much toxic masculinity where people don't want to apologize, think they have all the answers. The way you guys are going about it in humble way I've listened to you and it's inspiring to me that you are. These guys are many ways for all guys. You are echelon of of sort of Achievement, all of us love sports. All of us revere a great athlete and yet you guys are humble. You're saying to yourself. We're trying to get it. Right were wrestling with this stuff. We're trying to learn more. We're trying to grow that stats need is a a spirit that actually. Is a great judge alert, learn hand. Great siege read talks about What this what this country really needs and he says it's not our founding documents. Lots of countries upgrade constitutions. Lots of have written. It's really the spirit of. Liberty they talk about, and he says the liberties never never to shore that it's right, and he really goes this great idea that that we are at our best as the country when we're humble. Before each other, God's creations an have a spirit of empathy and love for each other and. I think you guys evidence that spirit in a way that shows that you can strong off. Winnings were winning sports, but also being law of other other people whether they're your teammates or people play underneath you and that you know that you have something to learn from now on and contributed to that as well. That's beautifully said and I think that's been one of the things that's really jumped out at both Pete in me. over the last couple of months says we've explored the the the social issues that are happening around the country. We've had Craig Popovich on with DOC. Rivers Fed some great conversation but you know we talked about being around black. Guys his his whole coaching career, and I played with black guys starting from junior high on ice school all the way. Through my Mba career now of course coaching in the NBA but I gotTa. Tell you that I feel like this last month or six weeks has been so eye opening for me that as much as I thought I knew just because I've been around black culture. It has been extremely humbling to understand how much we didn't know and You know we've talked a lot about the real African American history that we just haven't learned in this country. Some of the atrocities that that have occurred the African American communities that we just sort of pushed aside, and it's I think it's you know when you're in sports, and Pete noses There's there's a natural humility because. Man No matter how good you are! You're going to take some lumps. Yeah, and so I. Think this has been a really good time for every coach and every athlete, because it's a time for reflection and a time for us to really kind of realize oh my God we got. We got a lot to learn. Yet, Look America. We have a problem, we we don't like telling the truth about our history. We think that all by lionising glorifying covering over wretchedness and the dark corners, and the pain and the trauma, somehow that makes us better a Disneyland version in a sense where it's more comforting to us, but the reality is we. We actually do better as a country where we confronts our imperfections will be. Confronted Trauma and. We actually held a war not willing to heal, but towards what has always been an unfulfilled ration- for us to be great a multicultural democracy. It's not base we're not at the opera. See were based on a common religion were not A. Nation was basically all look alike. Radel Lights Senate from the same branch of the family tree. We're we roll with the course of human events over country that was founded in these principles and those imperfect geniuses who put these ideals down, apor? Succeeded was not just thrown off the yoke of the British, but succeeded in setting a standard even beyond their reach, the gave every generation chance to reach workforce. The problem has been that we trample over. I think a lot of the richness of the history by confessing. How far we were away from our our bowls I. Mean even our founders called native, American savages. Women were not able. Susan's blacks were enslaved, but that forgetting more history. I think is really up traffic present. We have to record. So I appreciate it. It's not an African American history American history. It's been weird for be as black guy. To do during during my During Presidential run. I went down to Tulsa thinking I knew already about Wall Street, but when I actually got to the Greenwood community and saw this was thirty five blocks. I Saturday's these pictures. I started breaking down crying I. Just felt agree. Rising from the from the from the burn bricks that that were still in the area of just a history how I could not known was A. Degrees history graduate degree in history. And most of American doesn't realize that. In better part of twentieth century there were massacres from Rosewood to Colfax Louisiana, Tulsa, these are just acids. We don't know but for us as as I should say you guys abuse a former athlete. In, athletics, you know there's a history of of race and racism in sports and it these issues that we have to deal with and one that I grappled with right our I know affects you all, and you buy strong on just the NCAA and and a lot of the rules that have allowed up. WHO's the exploitation of athletes? I was a middle class kid out to play and my parents can send me money because scholarships that cover everything we had was but I watched around the league. NCAA rather kids who were going reputable schools that would do two years contributed to the the moneymaking antibiotics. Blow out the and then their scholarship would be. They'd be bounced out I. I friends of mine today that are paying medical bills for injuries that a sustained with their athletes I was a guy that when I ended up under hours during my four was like a fulltime job or war, we were traveling sixty seventy hours and yet after four years. A lot of young guys aren't allowed to stay on scholarship even though they made a lot of money. To get their degree so the level at which lower income athletes who then do make a mistake trying to sell in Jersey? Just men's knee. Suddenly, get a different Get crushed by the NCAA in their careers on or even. Friends of mine who watched their? And likenesses being used far after their college career or video games while they weren't making any money, and they didn't make it to the big leagues, but college still profiting off of their name, US, selling their Jersey or video gauge likenesses. He's the kind of things that are really problematic and I think. are still serve best issues that we should feel with as a country and I I'm interested so I have heard what you think about a the name image likeness, which creates a Lotta complications. I think for the League I talked to. Coach Shaw at Stanford is. A. Classic Mate of mine. I didn't really good heart to heart to him about the potential downside of situation where. Certainly executive afford it can. Create revenue streams for some athletes will others can't and what that might do to breaking up. The NCAA competition basketball in all the money makes sports, but I think this is an era where we have to reckon with now is the force out of order has s their state law? It's GonNa Force Congress where I sit. To now come up with an idea, and I'm having really direct conversations with senators that I for one I'm not willing to feel the name image likeness issue, alot without dealing with the healthcare issues that I think the NCAA has failed to come up and deal with the educational issues on personally big eight years. Come back and get their re on not dealing with a allowed the issues around. Frankly just tobacco easy for these insulin's your scholarship. It should be a year scholarship or five year scholarship, not a one year renewal want a lot of these rules to be seeing chaotic, and I want to try to force some of these reforms into this moment. For the the the injustice that that were dealing with. The. Social side of things just runs throughout our entire society. Here it is here. It is again. The naievety to go through all of the years of college sports, and being in a playing and coaching in and to not realize that there was injustice that was being carried out with all the money that was being made, and all of that it's just hits you right between the eyes again that wherever the money's involved the we just continue to find ways to abuse corrupt, and and take advantage of less less fortunate, and it's just such a. it's just a humanity issue that we're dealing with I couldn't agree with you more that. The overlooking of the value of the athletes in how they are so responsible for the product in the event in all of the the rejoiced that follows all that it's the same thing in the NFL to me that the NFL players to not be recognized for all that they have made it this league to be for them still to feel like they're working for other people are just i. wish that the athletes were respected to the point where they were recognized for all of their input, and then compensated however need be a and whatever, either. There's issues in every. Every direction in the college world. Then I know it's admirable that you're going after it in in. Everybody realizes there is such injustice here as well how we sell it I. Don't know the such a monstrous problem. It's such a you're you know much more so the difficulties of finding ways into changing policy in creating some kind of formula format where this is all you know just and all that, but it's just amazing that we're dealing your entire career now in in in politics is just. It's just one after another. You've got battles in every direction whether you're battling. Reform in the in the prisons or you're. You're battling healthcare, or you're battling all of the different environmental, and just all the different things that you fight for it's it's incredible. How much work there is to be done good. We admire the heck out you for all that you you put forth in your end of it man Steve. What do you think about the whole college thing you know I, think. If anything. This is a really good time for the NCAA data to take a long look. Amina think it's a time for all of us to take a deeper dive into whatever we're doing, can we? CAN WE BE BETTER Whether it's just you know what your job is. Can you be better at your job? Can you adapt to the circumstances or do? We need structural change whether it's in the criminal justice system or the NCAA with? The system of the Athlete, compensation or Whatever business you're in I, think now's the time to really examine it. My feeling is that the NCAA. has to come to grips with reality. The Olympics did so. You know remember thirty years ago, you know before the Dream Team. Came came aboard you literally had to be. An amateur athlete to perform in the Olympics. You couldn't make a dollar. And it just became so ridiculous in the the Olympic. Committee's around the world. Pick figured it out. They said all right. We can let our athletes make money. Doing commercials and still compete, and the Olympics did not lose. All anything they gained popularity and so I think there's a system. Maybe it's modeled after the Olympics you know, pick your star athlete whether it's Trevor, Lawrence at at Clemson or or two of you know at Alabama, less you're a guy like that. Who is clearly making a ton of money for his school If he if he wants to sell his name or likeness, and it doesn't even. Even have to be paid for from the school. Right because the schools all have to pay for twenty five thirty different sports, so to me, it's not even about the NCAA saying. Hey, schools have to pay the athletes. It's more about the NCAA saying the athletes can make money elsewhere if they so choose right so if they want to do a commercial. They WANNA get sponsored by Nike or whatever. We can find a way to make that work and in a few. If you say well, that's not gonNA work. It's going to cause all kinds of problems. Look at all the problems we already half. With all the rules that are being broken, so I think there's an answer somewhere in that realm, one of the really difficult challenges here is to control the people outside of the players that can be affected by their success and they WANNA get in on it, and they want it for the same reason to go and see where they can make some money on young kids. It becomes a preying on the athletes in their positions and their opportunities. It's really ugly, and IT'S A it's at the source of. It's not the kids in school that are making the problems. It's the people that are enticing. Enticing them into different avenues would ever have thought. I could make up jerseys to sell them. Somebody else thought that brought it to the kids, and try to take advantage of it's a very difficult area, and and go back to our se days we had some real difficulties that were forced by adults from the outside that wanted to get something out of the success of a young man in young athletes, and it's it's A. It's a difficult area for sure that there's nothing easy about young agree, and there's some basic things cd the NCAA, and that's what's been stunning to me in this period. The hasn't made a proposal on some leaf habit. Another pack slow put some things about not one year renewable for your scholarships or covering healthcare in a better way. It's being done right now for people that might find themselves ten years later with some. Rain injury or I still have some shoulder issues and. You'll rethinks these things are if you don't have the resources I got been health coverage. How the, Uber. Covered this kind of stuff, but you're right. It opens up some very difficult realities. Look and I was recruited. It was kind of the wild wild west in the eighties ways they were trying to seduce seventeen year old kids to make decisions, and you know the NCAA crackdown on that in curtail that process a little bit. I know you know well. He but I. Just I really do worry what I watch. Some of my team members are more talented than me, never really made in the NFL, but got bay earning capacity in those three or four years that they never got to realize. Even, though they were household, names and people were property likeness their image by the time they. got a chance to the NFL watched up, but they could have made a lot of money in those years. They could put them. into far better. genomics cure so I hope that the NCAA better could grappler a means. Senators have been really disappointed by them, not coming forward. Any kind of vision for the health safety will be of their athletes a better than it is. Cory I think you know pizza? There's just so many different ways that you can go to try to improve society when you're a member of the Senate. And so many different options, and so many things going on. How do you individually and as a body come to agreement on what to discuss and what to move to the side? How does how does that work well? That's that's great. Because that is you. You said it right with two different questions. One is where us in digital, and then how does the body? Governors direction so as an individual look I represent a state and I try to keep. Jersey interests at the center of what I'm doing, and so that everything for becoming an expert in infrastructure. You know sexy conversation. Maybe be reason why it's taking me so long to my significant other been with me. Because I want to talk about infrastructure. But A. Focus those areas that are really or state and but for me I also look I. Mean a decision in my life. Wow, coming out of Yale, law school to move on into a incredible place in Newark. I always say I live community where we don't mistake in wealth with were. I moved into a low income neighbor. The area now is a census about ten years ago, median family income was fourteen thousand dollars per household, and I wanted to keep people at first elected me in this community was sitting out I represent Bartlett now really at the center and so much about this idea of equality and justice, expanding economic opportunity education opportunity so I let that guide a lot of the things I do as an individual center as key generals lead separate or Criminal Justice Reform focusing on. Environmental Injustice Tony were low income Americans in fact, race now is still the number one indicator in America whether you're going to drink dirty water thoroughly air. Superfund site and so a lot of those issues drive me orders well, these issues of. Our nation, who say we are, and then I'm just a big believer that like I just I feel like I was less as youtube were to get a a fair shot at nurturing best. And I like this idea of expanding opportunity to give people. The greatest actual resource any country has now mobile knowledge, base, societies, oil, gas, or coal. We live in a knowledge-based economy. The genius of your children and this has many genius is born in. South central capita as born in beverly, Hills Avenue. In Beverly Hills me much better chance of cultivating that genius where kids can better achieve their dreams at an really is going to be determined on your sweat. Your your your your character. Your commitment I saw a lot of my work is just trying to make sure that wherever for the chances for human flourish in. That's better all, but as far as the body is a whole Dax determined by It's whoever's in the majority. is going to decide. What's the agenda like? I'm upset we we can pass a commonsense gun safety bill out of the Senate right now because majority of. Members leave. That, we should have universal background checks in America. If you are convicted of of threatening to kill your wife for if you are on a terrorist violence, you should be able to buy a gun in America owes Americans agree with that Republican or Democrat Mitch McConnell leaves. The set will put the bill on the floor or a boat or s so. That's why say elections matter because at whoever trump important majority gets to determine. What the agenda of the United States Senate is. Frustrated. These last years watching. Bipartisan efforts be stymied by not being gets set for, and so this is going to be election twenty twenty. I know a lot of is women dull trump. But probably just a little, less important, or maybe of equal imports is going to be who is in the majority in the United States, Senate and and this racist from Arizona Colorado North Carolina. Georgia, they're all combined to determine. which way to Senate bills, and that's why I'm spending a lot of work out for reelection. It's as well on spending a lot of work trying to help a lot of other people. Corey, you know the what attracted my family to to your your causes was this commonality that not the things that you've chosen to speak on a into support in fight for but the consistency of where the message comes from such a compassionate, such, a caring such a empathetic in a loving spot that everything that you speak on the stand for demonstrates that great connection that you have to your heart for the people that are listening if they want to learn some some stuff about the world. Do you want to follow? We're we're cory. Booker has been what he talks about. There's so. So many great things, but I never heard us. This is my opinion. Never heard you so passionately. expressing your the core of your being as she did in those couple days that happened in June and and there was one on June. Third One on June fourth when you got you got on topics, and they really were about race was about the Anti Lynching bill that was that you were fighting for an end and the frustration that you that you ran up against with with a single opposition, and and how you spoke there, but then also the when you were just talking about You know. Do you see me that that that whole thought? Is So at at at the core of what Stephen I were hoping to convey in and try to make people understand what is at stake here in what is it hand here in in dealing with race? And how can we? Make proper steps to support the the new empathy and the new learning. We need our cultural. Could. Could you onerous by just sharing the thoughts about that? That speech about do you see me? Despair with with our listeners. Worrying. I'M GONNA. If you don't mind at a I'm going to play a clip from matter from that speech, because it's so powerful and Let's play the clip and then and then have you respond off off of the clip? If you would sure, it's why so many black Americans scream out to you. See me I do not have your equal justice under law, do you? Do you see be? I? Do not have justice for all. Do you see me matter? I met her. Black lives matter black bodies matter. America I love you. Do you see me? To you know why experiences? To you see the failings of our ideals. Murder of a black man by multiple cops who knew they were being filmed in broad daylight. Is Not the extent of the problem of racism. In America it is a final and deadly manifestation of that racism. As powerful stuff. And as Pete should though. There were several yet several moments in front of the Senate equally as emotional and I know the. In the last couple of months the events of the movement itself as broad a lot of emotion for all of us, but speaking as a black man in front of the Senate it. It must have been one of. The biggest most significant moments of your life I would think. It looked I'm just people may not realize this. I'm just a life. I never hardly elected to the Senate for me was rock Obama on where that had been broken You can't walk into that off without feeling the history of kingdom for you, and how many ways you are still analysis in the in the longer history of that audie and. Feel as obligation to try through your lived experience, to to bring light into the liberty experience of tens of millions of Americans who have not often had a chance to speak from that four or representative. To speak to their experience. And, I felt it. A number of times remember after the first. Uprisings seeking my own caucus and pilot or no cameras never forget. Then senator of Maryland a Husky comes up to in just implores me because at that point I was trying to be i. just got senator trying to keep my not facial. I was going to be a workhorse. Now show worse, but she wanted me more. You have experience you. It's unique in. You'll let people understand it because you will and. So, this has been a time where just trying to get folks understand that we in America and WBZ voice says this one gets tragedies or countries a little. And somehow we grow comfortable to recover grown complicit. In in the suffering of fellow Americans you know what I talked before about environmental injustices, I mean we have three thousand jurisdictions in America where children have more than twice, the blood lead levels of Lake Michigan. And that's that's a vicious permanent damage. We literally have a hundreds hundreds of thousands of our children. Drinking Water. We don't see drinking dirty water. Don't seem to have a national emergency. It would be a fraction what we spend on these bailout package that he's Cova packages so replace every lead service line in America that goes schools classrooms where we don't have an urgency to do that. We have a nation. That is an apparition amongst industrial nations from the amount of women that I enjoy our overall where where the highest maternal mortality rates of black women die at about four times that of Whiteman, on an even when you control for economics, black women are much more likely to draw. And I can go through all. The criminal justice system is a trail of tears it, you know we have Asian. It's no difference between blacks using drugs using drugs but after. About four times more likely to be arrested those days we have young people getting life sentences for doing things into the last three presidents admitted doing. You'll get a life sentence for a possession marijuana or essentially sell, but you get a life sentence in the sense that after that. You can find a job. You can't get a business license. You can't get a low back in the outrage. In the fact that we are now because of this criminal justice, a Bryan Stevenson says trade you better if you're rich and guilty than if you're poor in is we have a nation that now has more African Americans under criminal supervision. All the slaves in eighteen, fifty, eight six. And you know I posted something on my instagram. Last night about a president who has? Pardon Power Party one of his friends. WHO SAYS I wasn't going to turn on the president? And then I was comparing next to can include browder. WHO Was a kid that was in writing, so I went to rikers, interestingly enough with Jared Kushner's Dad Charlie Kushner would come out of prison. I knew from new. Jersey I and it was the first time I saw the stunning reality that Eric Children in America that languished in prison for months we brought them with their over two years never been convicted, but they just can't afford a lawyer like my parents would have afforded for me to get the map leave brought was imprisoned in solitary confinement in two years for stealing a backpack. That's not equal justice and that Unequal Justice Grind, african-americans immunities into poverty abandon REC- studied are over incarceration at America's whole would have twenty percent less. We equal rates on it. Ryan's our country into torture at what we do to children in in prison, solitary confinement literally. tell you. Permanent Damage Your brain brings about mental disorders so I could go on about these things that happened. But I'll I'll end with this idea of. Complicity that we are all complicit. You're responsible. If something's going on in our nation's being done in our name, remember our criminal justice system does things in our name, the people vs or the state verse if we are silent in the face of the justices, you know. We pick your rate. Leader in the past as one radio, one says the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is the people say not? I noticed because of the street from where I live. Where these high-rise! Projects which I did two. Decade and I watch. These kids walk up there and this crew kids hung out in the lobby. There were brilliant, an athletic and charismatic in genius. Children most of them are now dead. A. Smith was last one killed in two thousand eighteen with an assault rifle when I call the police officer. They said it was like his head up when when the when the when the bullet I. Was One of the biggest mistakes. I feel like I've made in my life because. When the Hassan washing was a leader of this crew who? What I walked in these these kids were still in high school. I remember selling marijuana, but again kids blanketed inner city. Don't have the same freedom to use marijuana as kids at Stanford, it which I saw so much drug use when I was at Stanford. And so I try intervened with the girl while trying to get the mentors. and. Put them together with a people that would help them achieve. Their dreams by didn't follow through too busy. We're all busy people. I was running for office ran for mayor. And these kids knowing I be committed so them, but they would still. They were my friends. I, was so in the lobby have not evolved through some things I. said I would do babe was. Running for office and they cheered me on the up at night. Well, I've actually got elected. Mayor had death threats against me. They posted salt all around including in the lobby where I lived and the kitchen hang out there and I'll never forget the first murder early murders in when I was in office. when I went down, didn't even pay attention to that of the humanity that on the sidewalk, covered by a she I minister to live it with home at night I, so remember see. The murder! The name of the person murdered was the Thought Watch. and. I, still remember that was one of those moments that something broke inside me. That can never be fixed, and where you are just thrown into this sense of shame. That I am here and all three of us are here, but because of you know. My Dad was one poor to a single MA and his family couldn't take care of them. People community. When he needed to live in a family, the now my family, they come to their house. My father was in college. It was a community made a bit. In fact, the Church collections the my Dad van role in each cu. When he got out of college, it was again blacks and whites. The Urban Li it helped the black people jobs, the companies that refuse to hire them or him in IBM I lack salesman in a country of one of the Virginia area and got a credibly well, we got opportunity. Via presentable salesman then he goes on to. Move to New Jersey I, told you the story already blacks. Some whites help my family move into the town of growth in. So here got it, but my father read it. Kit Justice not site at saying wit humor, saying leadership abilities, and unlike town wrap themselves around my that I failed to live up to that so i. say this to say that there are black children dying Oliver Mayer. It is a commonplace. When I wrote about this moment in my book where I said when we all get for funeral packed in there, for what is now a almost daily American tradition, lack boys in boxes and I just remember. All of us showed up his death aware where we big for his life. So here, we live in a country where that black boy worn in America most likely more likely going to be drinking dirty water more looking around a superfund light, more likely be traumatized. By the sound of gunfire is last fourth of July we had. That! Have Trauma. Hide under bedroom. The here firetraps more likely to go to Deeply funded as rules were white kids, though is more likely. To face a criminal justice system that will stop in harass him accused of stealing things. Because it happened to me I go through the things that happened, but the question. What are we doing about? We cannot as Americans our handover our heart, and swear an oath with our words that we are going to be a nation of liberty and justice for all, and yet be willing to sacrifice nothing or that, and and and you said the word love he and it is the most powerful force on the planet. It's the only salvation me have a people that love. Love is Saccharin sentimentality or that you love, but look like you like more in your family s up the love we herald in America, love is is a sacrifice service to others. Storm beaches in Normandy. It's going on freedom rides, or other people that you don't know that that's the ideals of our country and right now we have become too comfortable with injustice. We become too adjusted. To injustice in our country and commands in the most urgent thing we have right now is this poverty of empathy. We don't even know the conditions of our brothers and our sisters. Because I know, we have a deep reservoirs with love in this country just knew. We paid attention. We listen. We heard on than we might be willing to act in accordance with highest ideal. Greg Gregg. Popovich had a great phrase to describe what you were just talking about. He called it the accident of birth. You know by accident of birth. The three of us are right here talking on this this podcast right now, and by the accident of birth Hassan Washington was born into the situation that he was born in two. And here we are right it's sort of. It's just the Lottery D- do you do win the lottery or not or are you? Are you born into a situation where you can succeed or are the odds stacked against you and and I think for a lot of Americans of free. It's just easier. To shut our eyes because he's said these things are so disturbing and so a lot of the a lot of the strategy, frankly of a lot of politicians just to kind of do what you talked about beginning this podcast. Corey is just focus on all the all the great things about our country. And there are, there are some wonderful things but we can't just live these side-by-side realities there. They have to become one and I think that's that's the challenge and and Why we we sure appreciate everything. You're doing to try to try to create that change to to become that one country we're looking for. The court. You are the champion of a new empathy, and and you not just doing just to be a good guy or cause you know. You feel for people. It's because you know that there's that is the connection. That's GONNA. Make the difference in until it becomes an emotional connection that was striving to accomplish where we really do feel the people around us all people and we can respond to them accordingly unjustly in with all of the right, Heart in intent. And that's what you stand for in my eyes. Please keep doing the work. You're doing and and keep fighting for what you find for your fight for the right stuff in. We need you so desperately we'll. Both of you have been really good to be an have been friends and help I. Tell You when I when I was in the grind of a presidential campaign in Seattle, and I went to this incredible London's collective workspace in an Alaska See there was the carol was the first time I met you I was so stunned. Z. You and again your humility and your grace. Was So incredible, and and if you as well neutral friends telling me that you were saying Nice things about. Lead talk connecting, so look I. A lot of times we point fingers and other people's responsibility if I can. We were over time now, but if I leave you. Just. One more story because I think that this is the I. It's a time in America that we should thinking about what's government going to do or what is? What can I do in all a little bit or I always just tell the funny story. Mile neighborhoods that speaks about love and all this that one day I was driving home about three blocks from. Have these out, West but in we have lakes called Donald. Heard. But I a Vegan. But I was there for the French fries and I. I drove bids of the. You know the guy that was driving working in Newark and we drive it in the drive through a get my to French fries Owens's. My pants go all out watching TV. And I see a guy sort of digging in a trash hand, and so I rolled out my window and I say Emmanuel Right, and and he tries to wave you off and. I'd say again a way to sort of see his equal dignity minden sort of. Fear hayme anything and he chose running was hungry and just like you guys. We all would do this. You Know I. I think the Bible said something about if you have to McDonald's French fries, your neighbor has not. Should give them one I think it was a sermon on the mount. Light I. Give The guy my French fries. I feel good about myself and I tried to Kennedy. Kevin's going to drive over the EPOCA. Guy Says. Excuse me you have any socks and I. don't care any thoughts around my in my in my car, and I look at him for being look around. Sorry I don't have the shots and. He looks at and but still refill for the French fries I turn my head, thinking Kevin was gonna drive now and Kevin doesn't drive. He put the car in park and reaches between his legs, The steering wheel takes off the shoes. He's wearing takes off his thoughts and handsome out the window. And, in that moment, the guy he just got something that was worth its weight in gold and I got. You know every moment every day. We have chances to touch people. It takes moral imagination extend center. I three watched. My whole have socks. I probably haven't worn yet, but I didn't see in that very moment, and so this is the kind of creative, but that we need in this moment. It's not to wait for other people. But to try something ourselves, and and frankly you guys are doing that. Right I, you our private conversations and Watching you WanNa side cast grapple with these issues. And you guys have so much reach and solar influence. A lot of issues are obliged. Or ourselves and our families, but you guys are doing it in a way right now. That is so important and just having on today, and having this kind of rich conversation. Grateful to you and just thankful at see I know you're upset because I won a national championship basketball I don't know if you that. Yeah I am the only person in Congress was a starting member of national. Championship basketball team now now. Before I tell you. The full story is that it was a British national championship likely from the Oxford a Varsity team in England. But I still jealous of my. I that. The Nash being a national champion and you did not. Area that you know if you're in America they sponsor ten points just out of humility. So were you, were you? A rhode scholar is what you were doing in in Oxford Yeah. I was I was what I was. One of the last great jock Rhodes scholars not. Not, one of the G. roadscholar. but yeah I gotTa Chessel live over there. Couple years would play finally after all those years of being football player who? At, this is true also that I let Iceland fouts. I called about every out of every. Making that transition football best always art. I finally got to live my dreams of being a basketball player in the country. Level was a lot lower. The Heck Booker. Every team needs a level physicality I know that. WORSER! Try It really gets right. Thank you for Corey. Thank you so much good luck. Good luck with everything you're doing and and amazing to to chat with you today. Thank you calling us. If we can help, we can help you. Call us all right. We'll do thank you both all right. All right bye-bye. He makes us proud. He's such amazing. What a great American! Amazing appreciate management awesome. It's been a blast in fantastic. I've had. Maybe way more fun than we thought it would be I. Mean I know we look forward to it? It was fun to do it. It was fun to prepare was good to have something to prepare for you know. It's the least we could you know and and we just keep working to do more in the. Wish you the very best. Let's make sure we share times. If we get going, crank you. Come visit us. Come on any again with the hat. Well, let's do it. Let's do it. I can't wait to see it again i. Back accident all right all right I take care a thanks you, too.

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"Offside Batty yes. Caught offside from the about the West East side of Manhattan. But it's not from a basement in Westchester apartment in Brooklyn gambling and JJ defending what's up Good to see you Andrew. Good to hear from you could feel your voice Voice yes goes Jimmy Scene. You can see all of you right now in in all of. Your glory and it's very very nice to have human contact even if it is through the medium of Technology Unhappy Passover to you thank you. I believe technically begins tomorrow right. Yes we and you don't wish me Happy Easter. So they we're not. We're not there yet. I know we're in Easter week though. A Lotta holy things happening on Sunday. I'll text you happy Easter. We're not there yet. I believe inaccuracy of dates. Won't you join me? What you join me in Christ Andrew. Finally what a statement may bother me. No Allison Becker. All of us. Big Baptism let's do it. I remember you said you were going to shock baptize right. We're going to invite me to go swimming in a pool and then just slide dunked my head and do whatever needs to be done going to do what the team used to do when they'd capture someone and put them into the Black Van. That's what's going to happen with you for your surprise. Baptism that sounds nice. Very pious of you. So here we here. We are again. Another one of these None of us in studio podcasts. The new norm. I just wanted to ask before we get started because everybody we've had moments you and I were texting where we've been down here narrow. Tell me something. Tell me something good. That has happened to you since since the start. It's something uplifting That we can feel good about something uplifting. Yeah I'm putting you on the spot. I'm sorry I mean something. I don't think there's been a whole lot. I can really rejoicing. I'll tell you what wrong way something something happened yesterday. That was nice. I sat on the fire escape unread in the sunshine of the evening. I read sports illustrated and that was nice. And it was coming. Soothing rotates. Feels like a very throwback Brooklyn moment like you were like back in the nineteen sixties on a fire escape in Brooklyn. Reading a magazine a lot a now I have all the fake knowledge. I need to get me true conversations about the NFL draft and the quarterbacks within nice conversations that you can unfortunately have with no one. Because you can't leave your apartment. I'm going to start screaming my opinions. That people know very very so. That's what this is all about. All right Let's start and go right into a subject that will bring you right back down although maybe it'll pop back up. I'm curious so last week when I were here we were talking about Tottenham and the steps. That club had taken that we found to be. I won't mince words. Basically reprehensible rights are how they were managing their staff during this time. And then what like twenty four hours after we signed off Liverpool? Basically did the same now. The one difference in Liverpool's actions as opposed to spurs actions. Is that here? We sit a week later. And those plans are still in place for Tottenham Liverpool heard the blowback. Were not willing to deal with the PR firestorm that had created. And then they went back and they essentially righted. The wrong with Peter Moore released a statement Through the club the CEO. He said we believe we came to the wrong conclusion. Last week to announce that we intend to apply to the corona virus retention scheme and furlough staff due to the suspension of the Premier League football calendar. And we are truly sorry for that You also including the statement in the spirit. He did say this but in the spirit transparency we must also be clear despite the fact we were in a healthy position prior to this crisis our revenues have been shut off yet are outgoings remain and like almost every sector of society. There is great uncertainty and concern over our present and future Basically my takeaway from this is that it's exactly what I said. There was a PR nightmare that was created out of this that they didn't have the stomach for and I guess I I wanna say that them going back on their initial decision as is a noble one. But I don't I don't know that I even see it that way. I feel like in the end this club that prides itself on this slogan this more and these values of you know family that had just been created under your clock but go back to shankly and permitted all throughout the club's history I think it will always be remembered. Regardless of the ultimate decision that they came to that their gut instinct was to do the wrong thing and I think that will be a very hard thing for them to get over. Yeah I absolutely agree. I think you hit the nail on the head. They're Andrew and certainly as Liverpool Fan. I was I was upset because Liverpool espouse a certain kind of of what you said values that means a move like this is particularly jarring to fans. That actually believe that. I mean this is a club that in many ways rightly points to its past and the man who set the club on the course to be one of the world's most famous football institutions is regularly quoted. That man is bill shankly and Bill. Shankly said this Andrew Socialism I believe in is not really politics. It's a way of living. It's humanity. I believe the only way to live and to be truly successful is by collective effort with everyone working for each other everyone helping each other and everyone having a share of the rewards at the end of the day that might be asking a lot but it's the way I see football on the way I see life. How inspiring is that? I'm sure lots of institutions have had inspirational visionary leaders at the at the formative moment of of their organization and their values may have been forgotten but this Andrew Liverpool is a club that constantly higher. Thought about these things on the fine. Certainly do but it's not just then it's their CEO. Peter more these spoke to L. Pass Justice December past two thousand nine hundred and his quote as saying with for this. We had this historical figure. Bill shankly Scottish Socialist. Who built the foundations today to when we speak about business questions we ask ourselves? What would Shankley done? What would bill have said in the situation? Oh man no when you are seeing stuff like this. You've got to walk the walk. You've got to talk to talk. It's like Tony when he was Tony. Soprano when he was talking to a Paulie walnuts and Paulie walnuts wanted a wacky guy without a sick down on twenty just looks at him straight in the eyes. If you can quote the rules you can live by them. And it's the same thing was not the same thing. Obviously I'm not suggesting murder on the part of any executives of Liverpool. Well you know what I mean. You're gonNA say stuff like this. You better be prepared to stand by it right. It's very easy this come out with those things. Come out with those. Like nifty little lines. That sound good on a on a quote in an article when things are going well. When you're winning life is good. The fans are happy but like now is when it matters like we are faced with a global crisis right now and your people within this club need help. They need to have a living. They need to be able to go home and food feed their families. Like these are the moments when you live though saints and it's sad to see that like when it matters most Initially Liverpool were not there to deliver on the words that they supposedly live by now. The one thing that I want to say about this To fans of Liverpool to fans of Tottenham Defensive newcastle-born born with various clubs I think it's was it five clubs that I wanNA. Since last checked in the Premier League have kind of taken these sorts of measures. I wanted to read something from Melissa. Ready from the article that she wrote at the independent about liberal in the decision to do this and she wrote furloughing staff was not a decision taken at Melwood but one strategize between the offices in Chapel Street Bloomsbury and Boston and to me that is so important. I think for fans of a club to here in a moment like this because I think we have to remind ourselves as supporters of a club and those who can't wait to rip us for the club that we support you are not as a fan defined by the owner or the chairman of your team. No all right. That is not what defines fan bases. Those are typically people i. It's nice when the value of an owner or chairman align with the way the fans feel and oftentimes they do but you know by and large we're talking about billionaires that are living in a different world than what any of us can relate to so when Joe Louis at Spurs takes a decision to do this like it hurts to see my club do that and to see you know reputation of a club. You're proud of be dragged through the mud but ultimately it's not what I'm about it's not what the Spurs fans that I know are about and you have to remind of that with Liverpool specifically. Jj Yo Melissa ready she goes on to talk about how. It's unfortunate that Liverpool cast this negative light over themselves when they have Saudi-omani donating money Back to Senegal to try to help with the relief effort Andy Robertson donating money in Glasgow to help with the relief effort. Lots of players Liverpool are doing the right things doing good things and yet what we're going to remember from this. Is that the owner you know? F S G at Liverpool chose initially to furlough staff. And like I know I'm not harping enough on the fact that they changed their mind and they listened to the fans and the PR mess. But like I don't know I just can't get past the initial Yeah I agree with you James Piercing. The athletic understands principal owner John. W Henry Chairman Tom Werner an effigy president. Mike Garden were called shocked by the target of criticism. Unstrung by what. They regarded as unfair accusations of greed. And that kind of push them towards this backtrack and but but Andrew. This has happened before with Liverpool. This is not the first time we've come to this juncture with the ownership Liverpool and a disconnect between Boston and what supporters on the ground want and David. Kahn published a piece in The Guardian as far back twenty thirteen about the purchase of houses around gone for the expansion of the man stand on the affected had on the community in the area in twenty sixteen. The CLUB REVERSE COURSE ON A TICKET PRICE RAISE. Ten thousand fans walked out in protest from Anfield on seventy seven minutes versus Sunderland at home that February principal owner John. Henry does this sound familiar of the half of everyone at Fenway Sports Group in Liverpool Football Club. We would like to apologize for distress caused by our ticket. Pricing plan for the sixteen seventeen season. The three of us have been particularly troubled. Where the perception that we don't care about supporters that we are greedy and that we were attempting to extract personal profits at the expense. Quite the opposite is true. I mean this is. This is history repeating last September. The club applied to register Liverpool Liverpool Liverpool as a trademark and that was rejected. This is from the Irish Independent. The Champions League winners of made an application to the Intellectual Property Office which if granted would ensure all revenue from those services and products using the word Liverpool in relation to. The club is channel back to them like this. Those are just a few kind of examples of where. There's been this disconnect with Boston and I suppose maybe it's asking a lot of American venture capitalists to to really buy in and understand the the foundations of the club and the I suppose the precepts by by which a lot of the fans want the club to operate. Here's why I have a hard time buying that that they that they're they're gonNA plead ignorance. Essentially two reasons first of all made surprised by like today's knowledge of fans like that like fans no more than just sports like again citing back to Melissa readies column. Where she she said. Somebody tweeted to her. The perfect analogy for what Liverpool were trying to sneak through here. They said it's like going to the food bank when you can still comfortably afford to go to the supermarket and buy meals. That's what they were trying to do. And maybe John. Henry didn't think that that fans would be so like in the know on stuff like that but ultimately here's why I can't buy him pleading ignorance because he's okay. He's in America. Maybe if you want to say. There's some disconnect between him and what's going on in England I don't know he's the owner of this club. He that's not acceptable. But okay fine. Jj this just happened. Four hours south of Boston with the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers the decision that they made a couple of weeks ago to To Furlough employees and the same thing happened there was incredible blowback the PR storm was exactly what we saw with Liverpool and ultimately Josh Harris. The sixers owner released a statement. That was word for word the same as Peter. Moores when they went back and they changed their mind because they even said we realized. We came to the wrong decision. So like you can say. There's a disconnect with fans in England will feel. Well you just saw the same. Exact reaction occurred here in the northeast in a city similar to that of Boston so I I don't buy it. I think they knew what they were doing. Now they're trying to play almost some kind of victim card and it comes off wrong to me while Tony Evans who used to write for. Espn and writes for the independent as well and as a scouser Liverpool fan on unashamed always has. Where's his colors in anything that he writes? Really he tweeted. This decision to furlough was not made an error. It not a misjudgment. They did it because they thought it was right. And then they've bowed to public pressure. I'm okay with them thinking it's right. I'm not okay with them. Trying to me this means more at the same time and I think that's the way a lot of fans feel. You can't have it both ways. You can't express these Community based social concern. We're in this together and then do something like that. There's another element to want to talk about. And Jordan Henderson was apparently. The leader of a group of primarily captains who had their own group had their own group together communicating about about players making a massive donation to the NHA. The National Health Service in England and that was completely or under cost like a few hours later before they got a chance to really formulate a naked solid plan. Liverpool went and did this and there was some upset there. There's also the the the ongoing debate between the and the primarily on the club's about how how much the players should burden in terms of a wage Wayne Rooney. You know footballers are under fire from politicians. We see Wayne Rooney defend himself against one of the conservative Conservative ministers was asked. The question about footballers. He went on a rant about how they should contribute. Wayne Rooney was like. Why is he thinking or talking about footballers in a moment like this? So it's all coming together. The spotlight has been shown on football because football think of think of the most ostensible visible shows of wealth in in modern life in western culture. And it's going to be footballers are NFL players and they seem to bear the brunt. It's never talked about how much they contribute in terms of taxes. Which is huge. It's also never talked about that. There are people vastly richer than then who still do not contribute the same amount of money to to you know to the government to the to the Exchequer. They seem to get away with it. Whereas footballers easy target all the time and yet so it's interesting what's happened now. Liverpool again. I think you know it's just. There was a fairly easy decision to make. This is one or two million for the staff. Andrew to drop in the ocean from I think the concerning things that are coming out of a lot of Premier League club clubs Liverpool is that the revenue streams are cut off. We understand that but the majority TV money for the season would have been paid. So I'm just wondering you know football. We talk about the bubble in football. You know the first thing to really come on and Prick. That bubble has been this corona virus and shown. Kind of how reliant. The clubs are on the continued flow of TV money. And I understand that but you know what about the other sources of revenue? You know. It seems to be built on sand. And it's worrying when you see the Premier League statement today about how concerned they are about the power of the TV companies to pull money away from the primarily and that would leave so many clubs that we were thought were financially. Fine in jeopardy. The problem though is that the other sources of revenue that you're speaking about they're all affected right now. You can talk about the gate like that may not mean quite as much to a primarily club as it does for a lower league club but that is it still does mean something that's gone and then marketing sponsorships like everybody's pulling out right now of of these deals and there's no marketing opportunities to be made right now because no one's leaving their houses. No but I think I think the point. I'm trying to make Andrew. Is that the money we see in? Football is all based on this continuing. You know. There's no rainy day for this. There's no you know the money they have is going in on a player wages going out and and other things. It's going out in a in a wide variety of ways. And that's kind of concerning you wonder. Jonathan Norcross wrote an article and he said maybe at the end of all of this football can take a look at itself and maybe football can start to change. But I don't know the I don't know either. I'm not optimistic about that. Although I will end this portion of show on on the note of hopefully that's true because this is just this is just so unprecedented for from you know probably since World War. Two you would have to say. I mean. Sports haven't been really affected globally since then the way that they're being right now so because of the unprecedented nature of this. You're talking about a lot of people that are being thrust into a situation where they really have no idea how to handle it so with that comes. Mistakes like mistakes are simply going to be made. And so who was it that said that Jonathan Norcross you sir? Yeah he had a whole article the boat. Maybe football wouldn't would change. Its ways. Maybe it would it. Would you know the the behemoth it's turned into? Maybe it would pull back to a less commercial at less. Well look and that won't happen however I at least have to hope that when this is all over there will be a period of reflection and reevaluation over the way things were handled. And you know not to say hopefully the next time we're in the situation. Hopefully we're never in a situation like this again. But you know moving forward. Maybe clubs will think a little bit more compassionately when it comes to their fans their employees things like that you know. This is a learning experience for everybody. You forget that you know. That doesn't include these billionaire owners. That have never been in these situations before a couple other things. Jj sadly this is the portion of the show that is just not really late in with with positive news bit before before we go we. We're going to have a lovely trip back in time back to Berlin in two thousand and six. That's GONNA BE FUN. So let's let's just get through this bit right because that that's in our own content well. We wanted to send condolences to the Manchester City family as Pep Guardiola just a couple of weeks. After he was one of the first names of real note to donate the kind of money like real money of significance on not a million euros Pep Guardiola donated to help overburdened. Healthcare systems deal with krona virus. Just a couple of weeks after his own. Mother has passed away at the age of eighty two from complications of the virus. So feel terrible for them and you know you continue to hear stories of people that are dying under these kinds of conditions and I guess the sad part that the family members who survive are kind of left to cope with the knowledge that these relatives are mothers fathers. Whoever are are dying alone Which is the most heartbreaking element at us because no one can really be with them because of the contagious nature. That's that's the part that really really works with them. It's it's it's terrible to read those stories of people who have lost people and they have been isolated alone and scared in their final moments. That is just too dreadful to think about. And that's the realistic the situation. We're in right now. Yeah So again our condolences to him and and the Manchester City Family Over that news just terrible. Let's see what other. Jj that is noteworthy but not surprising. Fallout continuing from the two thousand twenty. Two and two thousand eighteen world cup bribery scandals The FBI laid out more of a case this past week in pretty great detail over. Bribes paid To certain members of FIFA for in exchange for votes for those World Cups to be held the Russia. One is obviously in the past. Now there's nothing they can be done about that. So focus will shift obviously to be twenty twenty two World Cup in Qatar. Once again Jack Warner's named featured prominently in this which I feel obligated to mention As somebody who I put him on a list a few years ago with people that have wronged me personally and really the country as a whole and the other thing that I always found interesting. We've talked about this before. Jj but I remember saying in the moment. Just how weird it was that Fox the network were essentially given the rights to the upcoming World Cups without any bidding without any competitive bidding process. And I remember thinking that that just seems strange. That is a complete and utter removal from how things are done in this country. I've never seen that before. And then you kind of just go on with your day and now you see now that Former twentieth century Fox executives heard on Lopez and Carlos Martinez were charged on Monday with making payments to officials of condemnable South America's governing body to obtain broadcast rights bidding information from a Co conspirator whose identity was not identified any indictment. Espn had us. English language television rights to the World Cup from ninety four to two thousand fourteen but Fox in two thousand eleven gained the rights to both the eighteen and twenty two tournaments after the two thousand twenty two tournament in Qatar was shifted from summer to late autumn time when it is likely to get less attention the US fief awarded Fox rights to the twenty twenty six World Cup without competitive bidding. And that is going to be in the United States. The TV ratings for that are going to be through the roof no competitive bidding to what will probably be the biggest World Cup in American history. Andrew me and you were together. I think that was two thousand fifteen or twenty sixteen when they announced about Fox would have the twenty two thousand six World Cup either. I can't remember when you were together. I can't remember what year it was but we're in studio years ago. Yeah Yeah and you looked at me and you said this is so strange. No bidding process Watsa wherever they happen does not happen and you know we've got colleagues and friends and Fox on we're on ESPN so we didn't WANNA go barreling in making accusations but you looked at me. You blew through your cheeks you went. You know that big exhale and you shook your head and you looked at me and you said Docs not right. That does not happen. Everybody submits a bid and then they figure out the best one. It's interesting I don't really have much to say about this. Except that the scandals of international soccer fee fat are being played out in Brooklyn in New York. City and eight may come to pass that. America's biggest contribution to the world game two days has been the exposure of all these things through our justice department in the FBI. Yeah it's true a couple of things on that first off I in in reflecting back to that moment will when we found the news out about ESPN or about the twenty two thousand six World Cup bidding rights. Not being forbid. I feel like now when you're talking about. Feta you kind of need to operate under the assumption of if something doesn't feel right it's not like it's something Seton suspicious. There's like keep pulling on that thread because there's more that's going to unravel and like you say like we have friends. That work at Fox. Look John Strong. Didn't negotiate this deal. I know it's like I don't blame any of the guys that are like broadcasters there this is done in boardrooms it's it's so funny. John Strong didn't walk into a meeting room with with with a suitcase with like a hundred dollar bills bulging out the site. That didn't happen definitely. I'm not saying I'm just saying about moment. We were like this is obviously wrong. But what can we say? Now one thing the last thing on this before we get to a beautiful nail bag that you've put together here Kind of off of what you were just talking about. How like America has? This is what America has delivered to. The global game is hopefully cleaning it up. I will say now not so naive to think that nothing is going on but since all of this happened remember when all those all those rich fief executive pulled out of that hotel and their underwear in the middle of the night since that happened like okay. This came down this past week but this is pertaining to that incident right. I can't think of anything I might be missing something but since that all went down. I can't think of any any like corrupt incident. That's occurred so I. At least in the immediacy in the short term like it does feel like were operating in a little bit of cleaner system that those decisions are still continue continuing to impact does. Andrew. We're going to have a World Cup in the middle of the winter and Qatar. We expect although the calendar for the sport is completely messed up so that may be the off season for all we know when twenty twenty two rolls around. Yeah maybe maybe. That's he'll get back on calendar. 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Receive Your Free Guide managing business uncertainty and schedule your free product for right now at net sweet dot com slash. Offside don't wait. Get Your Free Guide and schedule your free product tour at nets dot com slash offside net sweet dot com slash offside O. F. S. S. I. D. E. Net sweets Yes mailbag. Jj male caught offside potted gmail.com caught offside ESPN on the INSTAGRAM's on osceola soccer pod on the twitter machine Germany gleason kicks us off Air Andrew and JJ. I am writing to you from Medine Colombia where I've been living and teaching since twenty sixteen. We have been on a strict lockdown for over two weeks on the Colombian people have shown amazing solidarity. Medicine is the football capital of Columbia as we both the best team. Nfc Nacional and the most intense rivalry Deportivo Independiente Medellin versus Nasional sadly leaving Columbia unexpectedly on a humanitarian flight arranged through the embassy but I have finally found time to share a special Clint Dempsey story. We Love Clint in two thousand twelve. Visited my sister in Houston Texas. I was able to convince my family to take the four hour. Drive to the hometown of condemn say inadequacies. Initially I went straight to the nacogdoches tourist office an inquired about anything Dempsey slots. We're not on my Clint Dempsey bus tour at. Can I get the Clint Dempsey brochure? Plays and surprisingly the older gentleman helping me. Had No idea who clinched was not surprising that has America. He possibly to a younger who disclosed that clinched was actually in town for his brother's wedding. I asked where this event will be held no intention to crash. Yeah right but definitely take a look. See what's the difference conveniently? The reception was taking place two blocks from the tourism office. Doing my best not to appear as crazy Dempsey fine. I calmly approached the hotel desk and inquired about the wedding reception immediately. I could tell the desk worker was prepped for someone like me and she gave me a rehearse statement could her statements. Mr Dempsey's not available for comment. I kept hope alive and went to the buyer lounge for a beer. I met a childhood friend of his and eventually asked if she could have something signed for me. She politely declined. I didn't want to cause any trouble embarrassed my family so I took this as a sign. That identity signature was not meant to be at least not at that time. That is not. I don't think he's tried hard enough there. He's not tried hard enough there. He's already done more than I would do. I think once you're at the hotel bar you have got to go full. Haag you've got to find a way to get in. You GotTa Talk Cousin into taking you win. You gotTA figure it out man all right. My sister eventually left Houston for Baltimore Maryland. Where she worked for under armor this was also joining under armor sponsorship of Tottenham. My sister knowing that I'm a huge Dempsey fan passed on the wedding story to Under Armor Tottenham Rep a couple of weeks later I received signed Clint Dempsey Dot Jersey. I thought you guys would appreciate the storage on these tough times again. I'm a huge fan of the pod. Appreciate the work you do. Please take care of yourselves. Loved ones during these crazy times. Thank you Jeremy for that Daniel Bicker is up next. Andrew been following football for years now especially Crystal Palace and have been a big fan of the POD for few years. I appreciate the time you guys have taken out to put an FC episode out each week during the covert outbreak. More partly appreciate the way you have expressed the seriousness of this pandemic those outside the Greater New York area. I am from Jersey. Here's my question. What team or player do you think? Hurt the most by this suspension of football. A young player in a breakout year a player close to retirement Liverpool etc etc. Are there any teams players that you think benefit from a strictly football point of view? All right so I'll take this first part of my answer. You will appreciate part of You may actually get physically ill and I'm warning you now. If you have a bucket nearby and you wanNA vomit just beyond beyond alert. Be at the ready. All right the part of this that I think you'll appreciate so I didn't really go the player route. He said what team like. Teams are hurting the most from this Actually think there's a pretty easy answer to that. I'm reading from the BBC JJ English football faces quote the danger of losing clubs and leaks amid economic challenges. Yes wildest imagination says Football Association Chairman Greg Clark He goes on to say we may not be able to finish the season as football is not our priority. Human life is and we will do as the government directs as the pandemic unfolds further down the football pyramid are leagues have requested the season is curtailed and that decision rests with the ESA council the pandemic will be followed by its economic consequences and all business sectors will suffer. We face the danger of losing clubs and leagues as finances collapsed. If you are second tier third tear for tear. You are nervous right now. There may be no coming back from this That's hard to imagine like a an entire league being wiped out in English football. But that is that is the true reality of the situation so to me. If you're talking about teams that are that are suffering most from this. It's like it's not the ones who you know like. We may feel bad if the club. That's v Right now in England doesn't have the chance to battle for a Champions League place like no no no. Those aren't the teams you feel bad for. Its these teams that may not exist when this is over now having said that. Here's the part that you're going to vomit at. There are also other clubs. That probably are not benefiting from this if you look at say Oh a. Ps Gee if you will. Oh my God I mean this purely not from a financial standpoint now switching over now from financial Andrew Into Soccer Andrew. This is a team that built an experiment to win a champions. Finally they've gotten through the round of Sixteen. They're finally healthy. The tournament is up for grabs like Liverpool out. There's no clear favourite from here on out. It's just as much there's to win as any and now this tournament is probably when when they're in their best position yet since the name our Imbaba although signing sits those things will happen. This is their best chance and now there's probably not going to be a conclusion to this tournament So I'm asking all of you right now to pour some out for. Ps Gee if you WANNA shed a tear for them. That's also appropriate Even Manchester City if you would like to do that starts way You know the moment is is here for their leading Real Madrid. It's their time. And so if you would like to say a prayer for those clubs in this moment I think it's I think it's more than appropriate non business. Andrew has a huge amount of crossover with business. Andrew I gotta get Outta here. Just come on man. My real answer was the clubs that may not exist when this is over your your care and concern for for clubs dot are owned by massive oil producing states is touching not sure. I'm sure it's touched. Everyone's hearts tonight. That was just to annoy. You usually call this section Andrews people those are my people. I relate with those on honestly I did not give this one a whole lot of thought. I would say any of the players that are in their mid to late thirties. Who are coming towards the end. You're James Michener's and maybe not even him because he's tasted Gloria primarily level But guys like that. Who are facing into the end of their careers. Dot is particularly toll for them. I would imagine that's how I would see it anyway. Alexander in Renton Washington state. I just wanted to thank you guys for all the soccer film recommendations especially until I just finished season two and on the edge of my seat for the black cats most crucial games teams that are in relegation and promotion. Fight makes incredible drama but can be detrimental mental clubs business models structure and growth. Do you guys expect to see this system ever implemented in North America? I I asked this question so innocently like it hasn't been asked this is this is so bless your heart Alexander. This is one of the most toxic conversations in American soccer. Look I'll give you the quick bullet points of of Jj's beliefs promotion and relegation is absolutely crucial to developing a soccer culture that is inclusive and gala. -Tarian it's also Viking that my view for the development of players on a system that means that players can rise to the very top in their own country. I think it makes great sense for small towns as well. You don't have to have a massive huge franchise you don't have. You don't need to have Santa. Don garber on his sleigh would bags full of cash. Deigning to visit your town and give you loads of money for a franchise and it's the way I think that football should operate. That's just me booker. It WON'T HAPPEN WON'T HAPPEN. It will not happen in the current. Mls system because it's a system of franchises. You buy in. You'RE NOT GONNA go. You're not gonNA convince billionaires but now they're going to not there are no longer part of this exclusive club. We're going to be in another club where their plan? Chattanooga FC or whoever they've been relegated down to Segue so you mean arrest all this money that I put up to join this league and now you're going to kick me out of. It doesn't work that way not in this country. That's that's what you're going to get and it's you know I think promotion relegation would be amazing in growing soccer culture in this country but it's we can't it's not honestly we're not in a place worth talking about. It's that far off the radar. No it's absolutely worth talking about. But it's going to happen in our breakaway league. Don garber will not even table this in front of the people he represents which are the owners of the club's and finally this is from buttons. Great question we got during the week are what players have you fallen back in love with when watching old games. Samuel etel has been the one for me. I saw that tweet from him and I responded to it. I liked it because that's such a great call by him That's I said Samuel. Also we did a whole thing. I made in my next match when he retired. Recently that he's he is like one of the more under appreciated players of an era He goes he gets forgotten because he kind of left mainstream football at a relatively young age at what was it thirty thirty one years old. You kinda didn't hear from him after that For me so I've kind of gone back. I've been watching some. I have a bunch of like Tottenham YouTube compilations of greatest moments in Spurs history. And stuff like that. And I'll tell you what man the more I watch. Glenn Hoddle the more. I'm Kinda like boy. I wish I could have really been in my prime to see him. Play all my God. Finally I've been banging on about Glenn Hoddle to you forever. Don't act like I'm not familiar with this work. I wash them. I know you are. I know you are but I'm glad you've got this time. Really drink in the huddle. How how amazing these gopher? He's such a so just like a just a great aesthetically pleasing to watch type of player. I enjoy his game so much and while I'm saying that I do want to throw a shoutout right now I read. Today that Tottenham legend maybe the greatest player ever Jimmy Greaves. Who suffered a stroke? A few years ago. He's our all time leading. Goalscorer England legend He's back in the hospital right now. He's had a while he's he's in the hospital right now so Thoughts to him as well. As long as I'm talking about some Tottenham Throwback Stars who of you? I'm curious who you would honesty Andrew. This is a perfect way to slide into our time machine and and set coordinates for Berlin. I have been all over as intervenes. Don Again I've watched games from your two thousand from France Ninety Eight. There was a compilation. Someone put up today on Youtube of plan for Rail Madrid. It's just the elegance and the class of the man just unbelievable. What a player so. Let's hop in the time machine Andrew. We're going to set coordinates for the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. Are you ready here? We go yeah. Hold on tight on this thing offside every Sancti J. To what what did we just see. What did we just see? An emergency podcasts. Here's July nine. Two Thousand Six World Cup final editions. France just lost the Italy on penalties Italy. Are Your World Cup champions? But I I am still in the process of picking my jaw up off the floor after what occurred in the hundred and eighth minute of this game woods entity and sedan. I don't WanNa take anything away from Italy like we should be celebrating that but I'm sorry I just can't. I can't stress enough that I'm like incomplete. All of what occurred in extra time in this match Andrew. Forget about the match because everyone else is going to. This is the most incredible thing we've ever seen the worst possible exit for a player of editing sedan. Stru- stature in the game he's headbutted Marco Materazzi. The cameras didn't pick it up initially the second camera. The second digital camera picked it up the one that follows different incidents from the main camera. Obviously the fourth officially the linesmen has seen it. We think clearer well. The referee Dillard he the referee. The referee consult with his officials. And that was it and we saw the lonesome mourn some figure of meetings Dan walking past the fan down the tunnel. It's honestly one of the most powerful images I've ever seen a sporting event like him walking off the field in that fashion for the final time. This is final game. Of course I don't know I mean I'm trying to go through in my head. The most shocking moments that I've seen a sporting event of this of this kind of magnitude because like we can go to Eric Cantona and things like that. Yeah right you know but I a world on this stage hundred going through other anything in like a super bowl or I don't know man this is this is like I feel like we have now just kind of witnessed like the bar has now been raised. Where like this will be the thing that future bizarre moments in championship events are are going to be compared to like. Oh Wow he pulled us out there like this is kind of like living in history watching that with a problem with. This incident is to trying to decode. What happened because the ball was a the players were assembled in the box from the replay? From what we saw. The ball is Kinda in that area. I'm not just had. His arm draped around the defender as you would get touch tight. There's no contact. He takes his hands off and they walk up. The field as the play develops an indifferent power to the field. And then there's an exchange of words I'm Outta ratty keeps talking. As Don Walks Pasta sedan turns around and comes back on headbutts him square into the chest. And that's it. It's over a red card. I don't want to say Andrew. It decided the game because it didn't it went to penalties in the end but We'll we'll talk about that specifically although I want to say I'm on our Amman are caught off-side my space account right now right. Only through in some of the aftermath. And you're having word is kind of leaking out over what this encounter entailed and there's some saying that. Don Monterizi had his arm over his jersey. The Don made some kind of like little quip of you know if you if you want a jersey. So badly I'll just give it to you after the and Enza. Dan said something or Ben. Monterizi said something derogatory that. I don't even feel comfortable saying on this podcast about Saddam's sister. You you can text me on my Motorola raise or later okay. Flip phones the way of the future. Oh man it's never going to get better than this but yeah like the hard thing to do right now is trying to come compartmentalize the match from the moment. And I'm trying to do that but I guess. Can you allow me to do that? So yeah sure so. I think this is the best way to look at this game. In the first half Italy become begin began the game so robust Leandro they were absolutely pump for us and there was a midfield. I want to say like a midfield. Four for France of Maluku Machiavelli Vieira and Rebury and they were just out match for an energy by Guitar. Soul Peralta Cameron. A`see and you know we saw straightaway teary on reruns into Canada viral and has a concussion and is almost out of the game until the second half. He doesn't really have much of an impact. They even have to use the smelling salts on him and so that that kind of creates this disjointed stark. Because it's a stop start with the with the Tyrian re injury and then there's a penalty after seven minutes. Probably I wouldn't say against the runner player. But Maharaj is involved straightaway. Diddy make contact with Melas. Iran's true not sure the Dan even penalty wasn't orthodox the he's caught it he's collected. He's beaten boof on. Who is committed to his right hand? Side? It hits. The underside of the crossbar is clearly over the line. But the backspin brings it back out so French. Hearts are in their mouths for a minute and then we go through this period of of just kind of poor football grasso and PIRATA are stifling rebury. Who's having to bring the ball back into the center and it's all crowded. The Italians are very aggressive and then we have the Italian goal from a set-piece nineteen minutes peer laughs. In this amazing outswing are matter. Razzi powers the head or home out jumps Patrick Vieira to the bowl. And it's just the most amazing started again and we think we can't see any ship to this game. I would say that the Italians were on top for the most part. The Dan and I think this is key Andrews. A dime seems to be playing slightly ahead of the ball almost like a center forward out of position on his getting in contact with with the Italian center. Box A lot but Italy. You're carrying out the better chances. Luca Toni hits the Crossbar. Then you know towards the end of that half we see the Dan try and get on the ball make something happen and again Monta Razzi crunching tackle and I would say for the most part particularly from corner kicks and set pieces. Italy dominated the game and certainly dominated the tackles. The French couldn't get any rhythm second-half different story. I think the French dominated without creating it a tone of chances a couple of things off of that first off. Zidong like it was just amazing how these two figures were so central to this. Entire game like they obviously. They scored both goals not at fault on the penalty. Zidong of course red-carded when he headed matter Razzi and then Materazzi converted his penalty in the shootout at the end of the match. Just like an incredible back and forth between these two figures. I think it's amazing to put the context of matter axes tournament. I mean without Asandra Nesta's injury Andrew. He's nowhere near this team or these obviously in the squad if you ask most Italian journalists. They've they thought matter. Razzi will be the weak link. Now you can say that his tackle. I don't know what it was his weird kind of lunge which Feldman luda although. I don't even think he made that much contact but whatever it was a reckless challenge would suggest he had a bad start to the game. Also that had that deflected header. That just went past the post but motsy to become a central figure in this game when you consider there was. Piero a camera taught he andrew. How terrible again absolutely anonymous. But you think in the Italian talent and it's their centreback. That's really the king-maker in this game. Yeah and you know. It's interesting as the game wore on France did have I know what you're saying. But for instance have legitimate. Chances Sadan had a free header that he just kind of put a little too centrally a Tyrian re almost completed a moment that I think would have had had he done it. He kinda spins through the entire Italian defense writing. He needs to play a ball into the middle. I don't remember if it was me who was in front and he makes the past but it's deflected away if he completes that plate it's got to go down as one of the Great World Cup final goals of all time but unfortunately for him. You can't quite finish the job. You're right time and again though Andrew what was happening. Cannavaro was coming out in the center to. He had a magnificent game every time. One of the fullbacks which was rare to be fair. But if the fullback was beaten he was like a demon out of the center and making tacos deflecting the ball making clearances. There's one moment I think in the second half where Audrey is in the box and he does this. Shimmy kind of our faults for it and falls over and still gets open. Wins the ball absolutely incredible? The defender of the tournament miles. Yeah and for France Economy at the end. I don't know if it was fatigue. Or what but you could see it just sort of devolved into like firing thirty yard blasts at net just hoping for some kind of miracle which was not answered. Muslim fired. Well over the net while you're right Andrew but I think it's important if sedans header in extra time that you talked about is left or right of Buffon into the ground. They're going to be champions in my view. I'd also frank robbery right before he was taken off and replaced by trump. Who got a hero's welcome from the French support and right before that Reb Regis? It's a week effort but it's a clear sight on goal in the box causing two pushes at wide to the left of boof on. Yeah traffic I got that reception. If only they knew what was going to happen while. You're you're alluding to the penalty maintenance penalty. He did he hit the crossbar and unfortunately it was not the right side of the line. The football gods giveth as they did for they have for him personally in the past and they They take away but I think what you said earlier is an important thing to mention again and that is like this match is always going to be remembered for what Saddam did that will be. That is the image forever Of what will take away from this but you are right. They did not lose this game because of that there was only okay. Maybe you could say if he's still on the pitch in the last ten minutes. In Italy's tired he's capable of creating that moment of brilliance that there wasn't really much leading. Maybe you think it was coming and or until penalties so I can't necessarily say they. They lost this because him. That would be unfair. No and if you noticed he was at walking pace for a lot of the rest of that game after the eightieth minute and this is why I'm talking about him. Getting involved with the center back he was if I was removed. Dominique the French coach. I would say fine pockets you know. Try and get on the ball but whatever you do do not engage with the center house. Don't be that far forward on the eightieth minute. Andrew went for a header kind of viral and he got injured any mid the signal that he thought he needed to come off because his shoulder was in pain. So that's just adding to the frustrations and to see him anywhere near matter Razzi. I know they're on the same field I know he's an attacking player but tzu-dan was at his most effective. If you can say that in the game when he was picking the ball up a little bit deeper and trying to set things in motion yeah before we get out on this and we'll have more a much more extensive non-emergency podcast will do our World Cup. Oh six to fund lanes. We still have much to come. But for this I guess in reflecting on this Italy team I feel like one of the ways you can tell. Just how great a team is is sometimes to look at their bench and I'm looking at. Who's sitting over there? And so these guys came on and made big impacts in this game but like you know derochie. Del Piero Chiller Dino Inzaghi Zaccardo like Nesta. You mentioned earlier. Who was on the bench today? Like are you kidding me? Some of those names not good enough to start for this team like so you know again. There's a dawn is dominant story. But I feel like it would be unfair for us to not look at Italy as deserving champions like this is this is a truly great team and look at their road to do this have to beat Germany in the middle of this German reawakening. And like this. You know what that team was doing this tournament like it's an incredible win for them to have gotten through really. It makes me proud as an American fan because the only game in this tournament that Italy did not win. Was the one against us so really we are kind of pseudo champions and boating my own personal parade later in the week if you would like to attend on can I tell you how dare you. How dare you mentioned the name of Daniele Rossi who really had the whole tournament off after bloodying Captain America Brian? Mcbride IN THAT GAME. But I would like to make mention Luca. Toni was tireless backer upfront in in a role which was like often found him isolated and often found him plowing lone furrow. As the as the I suppose you know the the center forward who really had to be not a battering ram but had to live off scraps in the game and I taught you when you saw cameron as being substituted for Del. Piero the joy on his face coming off because Cameron as he put in a shift and he enjoyed that Game Andrew as did get to so they were absolutely tireless and they never really gave that midfield a chance to settling the ball and to be honest with you Makalele but Makalele. I'm Patrick Vieira Patrick. Vieira or more. So who had to come off? He made them look old but just finally before we get out you know Sedan Cammo to retirement for this game not for this game for this tournament to bring France to this tournament. That was his last moment as a professional footballer. Really really quite side. I I mean this. I just wonder how this guy well. It's unfair to say. How will he remembered? He's a legend of the game and that that remains unchanged today. But I don't know if that was it was just is just such a profound image that I feel like this is now a big part of his legacy as well. And that's that's unfortunate. This is a really fun tournament. I'm sad to see it over and I'm sad to see it over like that with like that image that you talked about before of him walking by the trophy as he goes into the back into the dressing room like. That's that's kind of the lasting image. Remember from this. World Cup. It's that's a little bit of a disappointing note to go out on as it is now. July of two thousand six. I am recently graduated from college. I have no job. Jj so I need to go back to writing. Resumes sending them places and trying to find work. 'cause I'm not ready to face the real world I want to go back to college is what I'm saying. Oh Oh yeah. You're in that moment. I graduated the year before and I'm feeling the same Andrew. We ARE REALLY NOT MAKING MONEY. Out of this podcast. Let's be honest no no. I don't know if anyone's hearing this microphones not even plugged in anything. I'm speaking to a bean can but it's still fun isn't it? Oh the joy of it. Well Hey this was. This was fun. Listen let's hop back in because we gotta get back into back into reality. Let's go and we're back. Aw Love these these journeys through time. They are riveting bags of maintenance. I feel like a lot of what we said in that emergency pockets. Diagnosis has held up by. Does the don moment is if you rank top ten moments in World Cup history? It's what is the top five maybe in terms of the shock value of it. It was stunning. It was absolutely stunning. Andrew and it's not like over the over the course of the tournament that Italy weren't well organized. That Lippi didn't do a great job. You know on even on the violence that I gave him you watching. I can make the argument. Italy deserved to win. But but I just felt like the Dan has to be on the field for the Dumont of that game. That you yes you. He has to be when the curtain falls on his professional career. He can't be in the locker room. Wondering why he headed Marco Materazzi over an alleged slur. It's just it's it's the wrong ending and it will always rank with people who loves it down now. He has kind of come back and written a new script to like. He had his second active. His career has been a fabulous one. I know but I've talked to ex. Professional Footballers I've talked to Stevie Nikko. I've talked to Graham soon as I've talked to Liam Brady about it as well. And you ask them about their careers and you ask them. Would you go back and do it all again if you WANNA see? The wistful look in their eye the longing in their eye and they don't even have their careers. Peter Note Andrew this was a blaze of economy. Let's see now red card. Can I go I you mind goes to predictably you're probably wondering how they're not mentioned this story. Well we're about to Kyle Walker Kyle Walker. I'm reading from the Guardian here. Jj Manchester City are going to conduct a disciplinary investigation following reports call Walker Bro Quarantine rules by hosting a party with to sex workers while the UK remains in lockdown because of the corona virus pandemic report in the Sun said Walker and a friend paid a two thousand two hundred pounds for Louise McNamara and a twenty four year old Brazilian woman to visit his home last Tuesday was reported the escorts left on Wednesday the same day the city and England right back used social media to urge the public to follow government guidelines on social distancing and protect the NHL spy staying indoors now. Walker of course has apologized. What choice does he have he said? I want to take this opportunity. Issue a public apology for the choices I made last week. I understand that my position as a professional footballer brings the responsibility of being a role model as such. I want to apologize to my family. Friends Football Club supporters and the public for letting them down in fairness to Walker. He never left his house. Andrew Look Kyle Walker. He's got to obey the social distancing. Rules is got to be aware of the dangers of this pandemic. I mean the first thing you said to me when you heard we were going into quarantine you said. I gotTa do what I gotTa do on canceling all my orgies. My orgies are done for the foreseeable future. You called all your friends you called all your sex partygoers and you told them that responsible for you. Sex worker yeah. The party's been cancelled. Is this Andrew. I have you on speed dial. Yeah Oh Kyle Walker. That was that was really something. What are you have what I have is Joseph Marino? This was breaking news today. David hytner reports this in the Guardian Joe's Marino. Oh members of his Tottenham Squad have been pictured on Hanley common in northland than having ignored government roots to train their joined the Quran Corona virus lockdown. It's a different gathering to your gathering. Andrew and Kyle is gathering but there we go footage emerged on social media of MARINA WEARING HIS TRADEMARK PURPLE. Spurs training top and tracksuit bottoms overseeing a makeshift session with Tanqueray in dumb belly. Dozens of letters. Can you imagine when Tanga belly got that text? Oh my God. And he's got to say yes. He's got no choice in a video clip. Davin Sanchez and Ryan session. Yawn can be seen jogging. Side-by-side floating the two meter distancing distant distancing requirement something which is unsurprisingly aggravated. The hierarchy at Spurs Marino is understood to be adamant distancing was respected during his session on the common joined the pandemic the government has made it plain unclear. Outdoor exercise can be undertaken only with other people from the same household Spurs. Spokesperson said all of our players have been reminded to respect social distancing when exercising outdoors. We shall continue to reinforce this message. Wait so you saying this now is the first. I'm hearing of the story. And this. Yes so this. He held a training session in full view of anyone in a public park. Yeah Hadley common in north London and he invited. What a weird group to invite Davinson Sanchez Ryan Cecil John. John's struggling and Tonga into umbrella. Now I what I wonder is if he had any criticism when he was on Hadley Common. Did He make sure that he gathered everybody who who who was walking in the common around and say hey? I'm about to criticize tiny. I need everyone to hear this. Little girl come over here. I have to tell you how poor his effort has been nine with a dog. Tien Gay can't track back. You need to know this place but like you say these are the players who who were invited. You don't know the whole team had been invited but these might have just been the guys who felt compelled that they had to say yes w wants to play again like he probably feels like. I do everything this man tells me to do or are done here. How many how many responses did he get which were new phone this. Yeah Oh my God this is I but like imagine the at least put on a mask like so people can't recognize who you are. This is like if the Knicks during quarantine went to train at Rucker Park like. Hey We know you're the knicks like. There's no hiding like this that he. He Wars tracksuit. That's really funny Let's see we continue now man of the match all right. Jj I went with this story that I saw ESPN AFC today. Bill Barnwell when very fond of brilliant writer. Roy enjoyed his work. He just released a list of the top one hundred. I mean he did the work here. The top one hundred transfers in primarily history. He's got four primary qualifications for how he came up with his list. The player must have been purchased while the club was in the Premier League. The player must have established himself in senior football before joining the club. No loans only full purchases and the team gets credit for what you accomplished while you were at the club under the specific transfer number one the greatest transfer in premier league history. Would you like to guess? And I'm GonNa stay right now that I happen to disagree with it Roy Keane No. He was top ten though Roy. Keane actually I have the top ten here. I didn't put the full hundred. He was number nine. Let me think we'll tell you? Yeah go on because there's just so money and I know it's tough. It's tough tyrian. Re Number one transfer in the history of the Premier League signed from events in one thousand nine hundred nine for fourteen and a half million pounds. Here's some of what Bill Barnwell said. In his explanation he said on raise the only player in the Premier League to record a twenty twenty season racking up twenty four goals in twenty assist for Arsenal during. Oh two or three player of the season. Three zero four was mad of the match in their FA Cup victory in all three but raises game even further the following year on re won the European Golden Boot by scoring thirty goals for Arsenal. Who went undefeated in their greatest campaign? Anri was named. Pfa played the season again for the. Oh five oh six season. The arsenal legend was named to the PF eighteen year six times across his eight seasons with the club which is incredible given that on reading this half of his final campaign through injuries It's a good choice. I'M NOT GONNA kill him for it however he is Cristiano Ronaldo AIDS and. I think that that is that's nonsense. It's impossible to understand that was signed for just seventeen million pounds in two thousand Andrea Andrea Andrea. Bill is while I like stuff but I'm just flicking through it here he's got. Da Drug Ten. Like how are you including guys who are part of the massive outlay of cash at the time for thirty four point seven million well and here is my issue at this is like he's mix them in with these own believable value signings and by the way he's got the signing for Nottingham Forest wrong? It wasn't seven point. Seven MILLION UNITED BOUGHT ROY. Keane for three point five million which was a British transfer record at the time but still as we go on with like in terms of of the way. The transfer just skyrocketed. After that I trust build over there escalators in that no it's better than not seven point seven. He's got wind ruining who was record signing and the youngest player like one of the touted young players one of the visible young players who everyone was was trying to get including clubs Newcastle United. Like there's no value index in here at all and then he is continent six canton national be further up one point six million for Eric Cantona. It was a stale bill. What are you doing well? Here's the reason to me. Rinaldo should be number one on this list. A they got him at a reasonable price. Be Fake of what he achieved at Manchester United on Reading Win a championship. Cristiano Renaldo did at Manchester United but on top of all that because he does factor in value in in his decision making so Rinaldo netted Manchester United. Seventy million from what? They bought him that what they sold him onto around. Madrid for so he. He was a good purchase in terms of the money. He achieved unbelievable things with the club and they made an unbelievable amount from him so to me he checks all the boxes to the to the nth degree But it was a great list. I tell everybody go check it out. Because it's it'll get you thinking about all this stuff which is good. But yeah so Terry Anri I guess technically gets by my man of the match even though I don't necessarily agree with him being number one but there you have it the greatest transfer in. Epl history. What do you have? I'm just so angry after that. I don't think bill's don't he hasn't done the numbers right at all. Disappointing man-of-the-match for me. It's a report from Reuters on. Espn AFC and it's a different type. Of Tottenham Training Tottenham Hotspur striker sung-min. Han will be exposed to tear gas undertake. Live fire drills on go on a thirty kilometer loaded match during three weeks of intense military training in South Korea this month if I am. I know this won't end. Well a Marine Corps officials said on Tuesday. He'll like stand on the live landmine or something. God forbid all able bodied men are required to serve in the military for round two years in South Korea which is technically still at war with the North but song received an exemption for leading the country gold at the two thousand eighteen Asian Games song. Twenty-seven will complete is mandatory military service while the primarily games remain suspended due to the corona virus outbreak. The London Club said on Monday. Sawn in south quarantine due to the outbreak would begin the stint on April Twentieth at Marine Corps Unit in this southern. Most island of Jeju. Local media said the military manpower administration enemy which handles conscription issues declined to confirm the date and location citing privacy rules but inefficient at the Marine Corps said that song would receive shortened version of BOOT camp required for all new regular misty's including disciplined education combat drills and a chemical biological radiological and nuclear exercise. A video of military training posted by MMA on Youtube showed a group of soldiers under growing undergoing CBRN training in the gas chamber. After a few minutes they are led out tears streaming down their faces and pouring water over their heads. The entrance usually the toughest part of the BOOT camp. The video said the Marine Corps officials had sown would wrap up the three weeks service period with a group March of up to thirty kilometers. Once you're in the military you should have defy a rifle breathing. The gas participate in a bottle rolling and crawling around the field. The official told Reuters for him. I mean there's a certain amount of pain and tears are indeed induced playing Tottenham Hotspur but this is taking it to why. Why do you have to do that? That is so cheap that so it's interesting with him though like I duNno. I hope taking the wrong way. He's just so he's so happy. Go lucky it's hard for me to picture him doing war things well. I've spent some. I spent a week in South Korea and visited the military zone on kind of came in contact with a few South Korean soldiers. And Yeah they're very very STOIC. Very obviously they're they're on Judy. They're not going to be smiling and laughing around and I just see Saunas. This kind of I dunno. Kind of happy go lucky character and I just. I can't seem in the military uniform but you know. Obviously that's what's going to happen my Sister in law is from Seoul and she tells me that son has the reputation of a you know a playboy as a guy about town. Girls Love Him. He might data k pop star or something like that and and yeah. He's going into the army. It's quite something well. Well Oh man well there you have it folks no there. You don't have air you know you don't have it. We've got one thing left to do. If you will indulge me please Andrew as we saw me. It's not an insufferable critics corner. No it's not an insufferable critics corner. It's this that's right Andrew. What's right I had no idea what I'm hearing? It's the better Russian music and that means it's better Russian. Football Watch here. We go cut the Russian Football Watch so Dinamo. 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Men in Blazers 04/06/20: Chat Sh!t, Get Answered

Men In Blazers

26:48 min | 7 months ago

Men in Blazers 04/06/20: Chat Sh!t, Get Answered

"This is Rebecca Lowe. Will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in. Blazers on the NBC. Sports Network. Monday morning. And we're live from New York City where we are in the eye of the Telugu people who you all had a weekend of meaning despite the lack of Premier League Football Aka meaning and a big hello to all of you Belarusian football fans. Joining US right now. Dr. But it is it a as we say on the terraces me and my mates at my favorite team shack or Sally Goes. Yup been a lifelong found. Come on you moles one. Thank you all Belarusian football fan August other football fan for your messages. Your phone calls your Ravens which have been pouring in over the weekend. They keep going they really do. In these times of darkness. You messages are the lie. I love this one from Rhodesia Hoskin all hail fellow Roach a roach from you cone Candida. Oh a hard Raj. He listened to my story from Friday's part about my abject inability to make people understand Maksim. When I first moved to Chicago. They still call understand and this Canadian Rajouri as a fellow roadshow who was drawn to North America from Australia. In my case I to struggle with my name being misunderstood at starbucks are that places. A health scape. The pinnacle came when I made a dinner reservation at a popular Vancouver restaurant for my wife's birthday. We'll see where this is going sheer arrive before me that evening. Only to be told. The restaurant had no reservation for Roger. She could make. Did the rational thing berated me angrily at failed range from meal on a birthday how could I but once I arrived it was quickly discovered. That was indeed a reservation with my phone number attached but it was under the name or J. O. G. that nickname has stuck ever since take care. Carriage Raj Aka O. J. O. Roger Hoskins. I think you've just give me my currency name. I love the name or G Bennett. Sounds like the Kinda guy. Dj Joe Exotics Wedding. That's May og Bennett a big week. Am I yet Wednesday? The filters in our stars Joan Green will join us to Liverpool life and making meaning email. Tweet US phone as any questions that you do have for John. We'll have another happy hour. Zoom on Friday. I comb way Dave. Oh Paul Tomorrow Aloft Chat. Shake get answers on. Wgn The ball. Let's take sting is is took a that? Were MS from Bradley. Mcdavitt of Chapel Hill Mighty North Carolina. Yes six four six four five zero nine four seven two six four six four five zero nine four seven to call us leave as she questions and we will revel in their wonder but away. Gop's few can create a wgn sting that involves steep boo saying he couldn't do you see. Oh we'll send you a patch. Email it to us at many blazes Jima Dot com email all these things too many blazes at Gmail Dot com question one producer. Joe Johnson Chicago. I guess my general question is without being forced to work from home. You know for everyone's safety and everything and I'm cooped up in a pretty small studio apartment Do you guys have any like actually suggestions about how to avoid cabin? Fever feel like very developed. It they say telling me question John from the greatest city in the world Chicago because that will fills as dark as a cost for kids commercial. Today really does heart breaking news that. I'm sure you've seen this morning. Manchester City confirmed that Gaudio is mother Dolores Seller Cardio passed away in Barcelona aged eighty to another victim of the pandemic mayhem memory. Be a blessing to pat and his entire family. We do wish the Guardiola's wish everyone at Manchester City. The deepest condolences to better days ahead for all of us. I mean many of you are grappling with cabin fever and it's totally totally natural self-isolation life is a natural way for almost every human to live. We are social creatures. We crave contact. We crave the hubbub and the secret really lies in the ability to self organize. Can you create structure? No everyone has this ability and if I just say be away then be aware without lock work out how. It's a counter but days right now. The like blank canvases to be crafted into masterpieces. So you're gonNA building contain a stole like components into that day physical workout. Where does that go mental workout? You work play rest even scheduling boredom downtime film book experts Budweiser facetime. All of this has to be so the truly Bokan Group organize and I will say this. I'm saying this to myself because I failed so far. There is no better time in the world to take all the Banjo people and so play the bloody banjo. Find a new source of mastery. Find Your Banji find your sense of joy? I say this as if it's easy but thinking alone. The hardest reality is how to do all of this at a time of great eggs to central struggle. Tima true suffering for many of us I mean. This is a time of immense challenge. I will say for us. You phone calls you messages. They do sustaining. Each one contains the power of a thousand claw. Pugs and when I think of the spirit with which we're all trying to confront both cabin fever and life in general Tim Bodied even that we received over the weekend from G. F O P Matthew Harris. Who To us about a heike till? I love this over the weekend with his three-year-old Son James. I'm hope I'm pronouncing it right in my Bahamas which was suddenly curtailed when a ran feasted on little James's Chee. How could you read Aunt Matthew to us? Naturally James cried the whole way back to the car which was about a mile and when we got to the car and I came to make James's face Hans Channel my inner Raj and just said courage. Matthew writes James Luke. Maye why today's tears and said in a Tony Voice. I'm courage ING. I'm catching the wisdom of babies is a three year old. People I mean he's Billy Gilmour Age. And he's now giving us the Valley. We need to live allies by right now. I'm courage I'm catching. We're all GONNA need to channel out spirit in the next week. James you are a hero a sweet human being with a brave hall and I don't mean in the dirty Mel Gibson sense of the word this whole story it does. It reminds me. One of my favorite game of thrones moments the quote brand thought about can a man still be brave if he's afraid and his father said to him. That's the only time a man can be brave. Oh James May we all be courage ing this week questioned them but to Raj Rob Niece Oakville Ontario. North Wall added Manchester United Supporter. Just listening to latest podcast and I heard that Davis Planning on doing a dry April as an I coincidentally and it got me to thinking what would be the hardest thing for some of the most noteworthy primarily players managers and referees to give up for April. That's my question hoping to get an answer. Courage oh rope from Ontario. You made this possibly the single most Canadian men in blazes. Well at least since we have Mike Myers on what is the hardest thing for the players to give up for April well until yesterday morning lands. That would have been money. I mean the big story line in English football right now and it's not a pretty warm. It's the Cold War breaking out between the Premier League between the clubs the executives and the Players Union the Professional Football Association and this kind of CO wall approaching Bay of Pigs level. The issue is pay cuts. Are the clubs around the world of agreed on salary? Deferment boss aloneness team. They took a seventy percent pay cut. So the Catalan Club. Could continue to pay non-playing stuff while revenues. Don't coming in and on Friday. The club's proposed an across the board every team. Thirty PERCENT PLAYER WAGE. But the plans responded. They don't believe their employers throughout Chile all starting to believe this is just an opportunistic attempt by the teams by the club spending executives to cost. Kurt. In bad faith the plans of even said we will donate large amounts of cash directly to the National Health Service. That's the British public hospital system. But we're not prepared to do right into the pockets of owners who in many cases are billionaires this oh this is a degrading standoff and forced to clubs to negotiate chaotically. It's going to go down on an individual club by club basis. I will say for what it's worth. This is a bad law. For both sides it's a public relations. Standoff battle played out against a nation suffering Britain right now really in the grip of the pandemic and football football's and a real danger of playing out. Its financial melodrama airing. Its dirty laundry at this telling this context. I mean he's endanger making everyone club's owners players low blood your for one quick note a we'll say it's important to remember this for every oil money or go came club. The smaller entities I- Norwich like Brian and who've album the Reynaud Mace Kinda Green Bay Pakistan much smaller budgets. Burnley of talked about loss of between sixty one and a half million to one hundred and twenty million from this struggle at that kind of money for a club like Burnley could be brutally transformative. But like I say rob. I would've said money. Is the thing professional. Football is would have had the hardest time given up but that was until Sunday. When news broke the Manchester City's Kyle Walker? Why always me? Her Walker became the latest football star to do the one to the issuing of a heartfelt stay at home play and then because immediately breaking self-isolation this time co Walker One thing Jack Greeley he just went out and all night long down. Point Co Walker. He decided to hire escorts for a tabloid CATNIP. Sex Party could into the British red tops. Oh Gee Bennett. Get in there of just one humble suggestion to each football know. You're listening to this. If you're planning to tweet a be safe be sensible. Stay inside the just at the same time as you post it. Just make it a threat and attach your groveling apology video at the same time for your inevitable. Indiscretion doing both posts them side by side to save all of our time. Would you put I pour for producer? Joanna Hello Raja is James Stewart currently in Brooklyn New York. Ipswich Town's Van Come on the track. Two Boys my question for you. Raja is do you ever or have you ever had a weak where you think yourself life would be so much easier if indeed I was a livable fan. Come on be honest. Do you seriously wish you read. Thank you James to be honest iphone every pulled up to some kind of variation of an answer to this question. And you know I've said this before. I also don't think you can be hypothetical by history. We can try and work out. What would have happened? I mean I often think the Holocaust ended sooner if the PLO against Hillary worked who can truly say Fisher having said that I taped interviews with the Liverpool Fan Channel Redman TV and then Everton Channel toffee TV last week and the cumulative experience of doing both really made me realize how much you're my identity just a negative impression of Liverpool funding as an Evertonian. Lifelong Liverpool are inextricably the ying to my andrew young the AC DC really Medina Seattle see. I grew up in the Dr yet. Magical Liverpool the Nineteen Eighty S. I'm writing a law about. They said they're trying to deal. With the the memoir them retain and this is a time when Liverpool F C at time of Horror Liverpool wants so many bloody trophy felt like perpetually the team on a permanent victory parade through the city streets showing off some latest piece of Trinket or silverware and there's a third generation evidence found in his formative years. When this stuff really really mad watching the stars perpetually cruise by at the bottom of Marie. They went right down the Baltimore on an open. Top bus with fans cheering their every move. It was a site. The play is lulling casually around the Cup on the front of the epidemic of that. Suppose kind of suggested. Yeah we didn't really have to break sweat to win this bad boy. The victors with occasionally chuck down packets of denting chewing gum. I guess sponsored chewing gum never quite understood why they through the chewing gum us. But they were thrown them to their adoring fans and we'd rug for them. Whenever a packet came down you'd fight for it and had always grab a pack but because the denting the booty was associated with the enemy Liverpool. I could never bring myself to consumer in public at pocketed at go home and trump. It later Noyer overwhelmed by guilt in the privacy of my bedroom pig young roach in a single bed chomping away surrounded by posters of grim faced. Everton heroes late into the night such mixed emotions that Manchester Annoy. It's one game not Liverpool off that perch and in Nineteen Ninety. Three hundred disappeared. Almost they've annoy. I will say as did the Free Chewing Gum Liverpool that could win tonio seemingly forever. Football became bloated financial. Just all about the money you know. He Chelsea and Manchester City quickly. Learn to understand how to run. The Game Liverpool became faded. They became an impotent threat defined a love those days when Liverpool Football Club became English. Football's equivalent of grey gardens so back in the eighties when a flock of seagulls fleetingly ruled the world. Google and people and I'm going to Segue for one second space age. Love Song is still a total banger. But Batman when Liverpool at that Pete that that was the peop- when I resented Liverpool's glory to my very cool hate if I if I experienced that was I was too young newbath Liverpool to me then philosophically. They felt like an absolute wrong in practically that condemn me. I was automatically on the losing end. The age-old bragging rights debate Everton had glorious moments in the League and the Cup even in European competition took about this on the port. Remain Jamie the week before last. Liverpool always seem to find a way to do it get as much as I aboard Liverpool success and this has remained partially true at say this season. I couldn't help but adore what the club was doing for all city simmering defiant to me beautiful city a Liverpool. You'RE GONNA WIN. The Sunday. The nine thousand nine hundred eighty s liberal economically troubled yet Liverpool and Everton made English. Football's capital of sport. It was just an intoxicating halo. The reinforced the uniqueness of the city. I established by the Beatles and then came football then K. music and he gave our town outside global recognition. Other Urban Areas Birmingham no one knows Birmingham Newcastle football fans no Newcastle even Manchester that time didn't possess kinda swagger. We had them. Where if you were in the world. You've benefited from that Halo. I remember being a as a high school about sixteen and I went across Europe on the train. I was outside Barcelona trained with so slow and then realize what is being slow because a band of Real Madrid hooligans will going right down the train carriage to carriage breaking every window menacing every passenger compartment after component. You can hear them coming closer. Closer close at total carnage. I was in a carriage with two childhood mates from one of them was Jamie God love. I mean none of us. Do I need to say this was blessed? We're fighting power and just that sound. The smashed glass that graffiti spray painted on windows. Creme ever nearer long to lie we may or may not shut off pants as we desperately flick through our tour guide trying to work out how to scream knowing the face not in the face and Spaniel and suddenly the Madrid East has ripped open all compartment door. Bandannas covered their faces where you from. They screamed Liverpool. We stammered back. The boys looked at each other low at that Bandanas and then shook our hands respectfully apologize for making a noise. Apologize for triple Innis exited. The component and then proceeded to create absolute calendar in the CARRIAGE NEXT DOOR THIGHS RESPECT. Liverpool hat that three of the least able to fight human beings in the world were given that kind of respect in a moment. Mike golic still cropped pants but we really need it. So that's what you got complicated city stigmatized for the craziness which engulfed in one thousand nine hundred eighty s but also admired for love for fit for a seafaring town though looks out into the Atlantic little always dreamed of itself less as English more either the capital of island or the fifty first. American state is a guy that went to. My school became a very famous orchestra. Conductor Jank called Simon Rattle great center the city and he really captured the essence of what? I'm trying to say when he said. New York is the only other place comparatively to Liverpool. You don't Light Liverpool. You either love it or you lose it and I don't know anyone who knows it and comes home at you. Don't have middle message. Feelings about Liverpool the mini golf. The trainee said the minute I hear the accent. Oh I'm sold and that James Stewart Brooklyn bedding anything. I could come up with that sums up exactly how I fail to this day. You are listening to chat shake gant says on W. J. P. The bald producer. Joe A sting Dave Johm Wesleyan Rhode Island. Thank you for some classic Banja. We've got TIME FOR ONE MORE QUESTION. It has he. WoN'T WE'VE HAD A number of times. I'M CARRIAGE ING IRAJ. My Name Is Anne. I live in Sacramento California but I'm from North Carolina so my team is gonNA courage. I also love Chelsea women and kind of any women's team My question is do you have any Passover pandemic tips wash your hands and I just Adl. I'm a huge fan and Lexington Kentucky and a fellow member of the tribe and the question for you is with the holiday Passover coming up in a couple of weeks where we normally celebrate freedom. What are your thoughts on how we celebrate that this year when we are not as free we normally are thank you yes. It's that time of year again. Eastern Passover go together like Mike Dean and narcissistic personality disorder. Passover the holiday which marks so liberation of the Israelites from Pyramid Building Egyptian slavery. And to be candid up from a won't make it clear said this on the pole. I'm not a very spiritual person as we've gone close. It's Passover with its ten plagues even I even. I've thought a lot in this pandemic about the Egyptians experience with those plays. I wonder when when I struck by blood. I think that was the first plague. I wonder fly young gypsy. Rose all like who cares. We're going to keep drinking in bars. We're not gonNA let the plague of blood through my spring break. And I mentioned they probably left off the second play. Folks Cohen. Show weakness to folks. You gotTA show war spirit the same spirit that our ancestors used to beat up the hittites in the Canaanites and I wonder to take boils. Did it take darkness until they will? I Oh my God this. This is real. This is terrible. We're GONNA listen to a doctor. Vouch e flat the F. Ing Curve. So I guess I'm a little more spiritual than I imagine. Jeffrey P Mark don't she? Row in to think about spirituality. In a way I can relate. We re this year bereft as we all out. Full the diversion that gives us so much. Joy and sorrow in equal measure made me think of the William James Quote at the beginning of Simon. Critchley Book My mate. What we think about when we think about soccer. This is William James. Who I'm sorry for the boy or girl. Oh man or woman who's not been touched by the spell of this mysterious censorial life for Victor Rationality? If you'd like to call it vigilance. And Supreme Felicity. The holidays have life. For who will? This should be covered with just this kind of magically irresponsible spell mocked old. She writes not same. I think football is for so many of us that magically irresponsible spell when you put it like that even I can connect even I can understand even I can appreciate so. Let's say the following there is a sore tragic irony to liberation freedom when you're in currency to celebrate the ability to do anything when rule look down. I mean this is a holiday about gathering as well. I mean this is really a whole coming together. On so many different levels the celebration of the gathering of accidents the celebration of the covering of our families and our friends and our communities. Not just those in the present but these in the past but you only sit around the table with dozens of people friends family family or friends the works and the beginning of of the I know we say all those who are hungry. Let the mentor. Any all laser in need. Let them come celebrate essay. That's the point of doing this relation. Walk what we celebrating. When we ourselves on freight I'm what a even be. Would it be appropriate to celebrate right now? But the thing is to me. Passover is never just the celebration we spend the first half of Seder took him out. The hardship almost reveling in it before we get to talk about liberation. And there's a reason for that because there's a moment in the first night I always personally save initia- more than ever Jewish celebration of Passover. It said every generation each person must see themselves as if they themselves were taken out of Egypt. And you always ask everyone at the table to envision the Ravens versity before appreciate that freedom. That is something that everyone is going to be. Rife with. That's going to be meaningful for even make who is the least spiritual human being in the world? It's an epoch spanning multi generational sense of mutual suffering and the related. Oh please God liberation my producer. Miranda she was beautiful to me when I asked her about this question we may all be scattered and they're all moments when we are all totally afraid. That is nice truly human right now. We may all be looking ahead to a time when things will be bad than they are right now. Sure is put to me passer as a wonderful opportunity to pause and acknowledge that. It's a chance to commune with all those who came before the ad are suffering to the pile and say this and I love this. I am freer than they were. And for that I celebrate and next year I will be. We all will be even more freight a beautiful nation. That's it would. She goes well. Jerry Falwell called we have covered all the bases on this episode of Chatuchak. Gant said on wgn Sap the bold. Call us with your questions. Six four six four five zero nine seven four to give us a bell. Oh we'll be back with David tomorrow and tell them. I'm going to finish by raising my first butter. The day in your direction deja Vu peas and leave with some words have inspiration from the mighty quests love I love this his Mo Meta Blues Quest Love Rights. How'd you plan a rebirth? I'm not sure yet. They you just stand in the darkness until he can't endure any longer and then you move forward until he is standing in the light quest. I'm courage ING.

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Caught Offside: Addressing the Rumors

ESPN FC

1:28:15 hr | 1 year ago

Caught Offside: Addressing the Rumors

"<music> ouch. That's his third travel tonight. Normally I get on this case for being a complete numskull but tonight. I'm chilling Stephen. What's gotten into you? I know usually I'd be off around right now but I gotta tell you. This vivid seats thing has got me completely changed. One hundred percent authentic denikin got these great seats yesterday when a vivid seats at stress-free wait we doing you put Mayo Emma hotdog. What's the matter what you here's the old Stephen We know caught offside with Andrew Gummy and J._J.? Davani offside from the upper west side of Manhattan Ed Regarding J. J. Vani what's up brother. Don't have time for that. Don't have time for Hilo Hawaii on none of that this. This podcast is packed. I'm excited about it. Let's get straight to it. You see the great irony there. Is that in the time it took you to say I don't have time to say hello you could just said hello instead you had to insult me and make me feel like I'm not important. Tell them about who you are right this is this is an unbelievable podcast that we're extremely excited about <hes> we we don't do transfer rumors on this show. We talk about that all the time how it's not something we love to do but <hes> first of all a couple of things some of these things that are beginning to bridge the gap finally from rumor to fact so we have to address some of what's gone on in the transfer market and other of these things sound like they're about to be pushed across the finish line and to a certain extent I feel sometimes we have to put a put aside our personal preferences and do what we think. The people actually want us to do and I think people sometimes actually do want to hear about out big names that could be on the there are a lot of people for whom the game is a secondary factor who don't watch that much football who are interested in who's going where who by the time their team have lost a game in September or October whenever most teams outside the top six who's the first game they are thinking about January and he has coming in so we're going to kind of run through the list of some of the <hes> so the bigger things that have happened or being talked about <hes> so we'll do that at the start of the show and I do you want to tell you we have an interview in the second half of the podcast that we we recorded it a little while ago <hes> but it was so fun to do it was it's with Liverpool legend John Barnes who was in the United States <hes> helping to promote Liverpool's store here of the U._S.'s. They're coming to Yankee Stadium <hes> so we had him in. We were lucky enough to have him in studio with us at just like he basically Jay's gave us all the time that we needed like there was no time constraints. It was awesome and I know I say Liverpool Legend and you know Liverpool will come up but this is not even a Liverpool conversation we have. It's like a free flowing full on conversation about the sport <hes> and all elements of the sport and it was honestly asleep. I'm not just saying it because we did it. It was honestly really really fascinating and I hope you'll enjoy it. <hes> so that's going to be coming up a little bit later on in the pond for an ex footballer he is pretty eloquent and knowledgeable and I I would get rid of the four annex for anyone yeah. He's really eloquent and can talk on such a range of issues. We touched on so much yeah <hes> let's see we also got red card man of the match a big. What's a watch for J._J.? Because <hes> Africa Cup of Nations is now reaching its day new maw denouement <hes> the final is coming up on Friday after a really really dramatic semi final <hes> earlier in the week so we will get you set for that a very controversial Hudson River Darby which you were at. I wasn't and you had a chance have to speak with Aaron Long. A guy who just a week ago I was lauding as my big like my big takeaway of the Gold Cup was how he's now emerged as a our other reliable central defender to put alongside John Brooke so I look forward to hearing that conversation as well. I had a question that I was gonNA throw you into for iron but he was putting on his boxer briefs at that very moment which is always he was. He was conducting the interview in the new. I always go into the locker rooms. I've seen parallel in his pants. We've all seen him and his pants uh-huh toweling off like yes. If you're gonna live here you got. That's a big distinction pants versus underpants like if you said like so when you go to the doctor's office and they like what are you talking of over with you. You can't refer to underwear as pants. You're GONNA get confused. You're going to confuse other people. I've seen them in their boxers seeing them in the nude and usually after crushing defeats at Red Bull Arena and this was another one that's for sure but pure low wasn't there and you're in the other locker room. Let's get to it now. The big stories of the day most of them all revolving around transfers that have happened or are on the verge of happening. Let's start with this one J._J.. Because Manchester United I saw we were taking in a lot of grief from somebody on twitter. Oh you guys hate Manchester United and it's never been clearer one that only applies to one of the two of I honestly there's no subject are like talking more than not just the united and I've always said this football comes i. I'm a Liverpool Fan find second football fan I so it's not about hatred anyone who believes what you just said can honestly go take a walk by the way the club is in a bit of a mess. What are we supposed to say? That's the thing is you're right like I. That's why I cited Gold Bridge Bridge on when on the podcast we were talking about. He's he is my window into the soul of Manchester United's fan base and when he's upset I assumed the fan base is upset but if you're gonNa tell me that he's wrong and that everything's fine all it's like Kevin Bacon at the end of animal house when chaos has just unfolding at the parade and he's screaming all as well all as well if man United Fans Wanna act that way fine but all is not well right now by the way it just because people who are not man united fans are saying it doesn't make it any less true right <hes> so but let's talk about a potentially good move that could start to set set them back on the right course and that is the talk of Harry McGuire going from Leicester City to Manchester United now couple <hes> a couple question marks come up with his first off this looked like it was close to being pushed over the line but it is not there yet <hes> a source as of yesterday yesterday said that the two are still quote miles apart. Oh no this is called the bilking because it's man united they will be bilked that is exactly right and that is exactly the face that we're in right now and like if you're man united I don't know how you had had. How does that no longer become a thing for you where you're just expected like it's like man united are paying the man united tax because everyone kind of like knows that they'll just go that? Extra Lang will mark Ogden said which is why they are now in a difficult position with McGuire. Is it another case of having to pay vastly over the odds for a player who will never live up to the price tag ours McGuire Modern Day version of Palestine Ferdinand two defenders who's fees or questioned at the time but who ultimately made the cost of the transfers look look cheap. Yeah that is the question well and the frustrating thing also if you're a united fan is essentially. It's this like ultimately Harry McGuire will help you. There's no question about that. He's a very good player. I think we all agree on that <hes> but the issue is I feel bad saying this but whatever he's always going to be there silver medal signing. It's not who they wanted at that position 'cause they want is just ended rock and into terrain right they wanted to licked. Who's like you said is on his way event is so they're gonNA wind up? Spending borderline delinked money on the player on on the player that is not deliver. I've broken this down to whiz because it's a good question. How much better does he make this team when he comes in and I think that you look at it this way higher maguire is not gonNA play center back on his own which invites the conundrum who is his partner going to be thought is going to be huge in how he performs or if he's a success so are they going to go and get someone else? Are they going to pick from the absolute slew of center box that they have how will united's midfield be constructed Matt. It's going to be there again. These are all questions I hire maguire on his own doesn't solve this. I went a bit deeper. Can you indulge me for one second worse right so the question mark of eighty million is he worked at is he. What united need so I said let's just compare him with another centreback who is happens to be a former Mer matches the united center by Michael King Everton so these stats are not perfect? They are not the entire judge of auto player should be but they are interesting so I looked at last season head to head clean sheets Michael Kina thirteen thirteen Harry McGuire at six goals conceded Mike Akina thirty Nine High McGuire had forty blocks keen leads in that twenty two eighteen interceptions keen leads in that forty-three to thirty seven tackles forty one by Michael Cain thirty-one for Harry McGuire Tackles won twenty five for Michael Cain Seventeen for higher mcguire and some crucial areas you would think headed clearances a hundred fifteen to seventy seven McCain's ahead aerial battles won one hundred ninety ninety two to one hundred eighteen. What's the key difference between these two is probably offensively? He's better in the box. Attacking crosses will score more goals. That's Harry McGuire over Michael Cain but I'm just thinking brought big picture. Here is Harry McGuire that not much better than any other centreback it could be in the market for in the Premier League right now outside those they can't get. It's a great question especially because his price tag is more than what Liverpool paid for Virgil Van Dyke. He's in England international also which definitely shoves things up at another tax tax another tax so I'm just saying is he a good defender. Yes he is now also do they want to defenders going to step into the midfield initiate attacks our they're gonNA play another question another question. Are we going to honestly say that Twenty Five Year Old Eric by twenty four year old Victor Lindelof like what's going to happen to them. Are you going to partner him. One of those I would hope so are you. Maybe you shouldn't be spending eighty million here. When you need a midfielder that's midfielder money? You need to spend that on your midfield. Maybe you coach. Maybe you try and make your centrebacks better. You've got to veterans. Why have you renewed? Phil Jones's contract in February. If you're adding another centreback some guys have got a goal. It's a mess right or you can keep certain plays for cover like and Harry McGuire Victor Lindelof. I think in a perfect world would be the central defence pairing. If lindelof stays rice we bay Jones smelling Dan and roll. What do you do those well? Somebody's going to be gone. Obviously well not obviously while maybe hasn't happened well. It has not yet but maybe they're gearing up for Lindelof to be gone. <hes> so you're right. There are still a lot of questions but I don't want to be too negative here because ultimately they are better with Harry McGuire than without who we that. We don't know that right. I guess no I I see a very good woodson improvement from what they had before at that position I I would think so all right but I'm telling you it's he's not gonNA play. Their lawn is going to be a partnership an American og dimensions is what who was who's policy it was Bruce Pallister who is Ferdinand ordinance vintage and Ferdinand that matter so much and also they had they're not fair comparisons. They had keen on keen and schools and X. amount players in front of them. They don't have those bears right now. Well look at the two full docks. I WANNA see Harry Ari McGuire having to run out to cover an aging whoever it is Ashley Cole or whoever actually young whoever it is going to end up though they did just sign one BASSAC which you would think help some of that. I don't think actually young as their long-term right well. That's it's being facetious but my point is searching for negatives in your proving that person who tweeted at us to be correct right well. If that's the way you WANNA look at. Let's move on well before we do that. Here's Julian Laurent who was on E._S._P._N.. A._F._C. Talking about <hes> Maguire's possible move to united. I don't think less ever wanted to keep him our cost. I think he was just they were trying to get as much money as possible and who has than united is ready to just throw the money like that as we sit with one Besigye and of course upon us and united of Danni again and it looks like McGuire could go for eighty million pounds. I mean bonuses included but still that's an incredible amount of money for a good centreback the nowhere near the best in the world and you know the interesting thing for me with that. It's not even just the united half of it. <hes> I like the team. That Leicester City has especially when they kept your I._T.. Lamont's I I don't know I just enjoy what's happening there and I'm so curious what they now do with an influx of eighty million to add to that team name. Let's go question and what is interesting for me about that is Brendan. Rogers Daphne played a role in convincing tatum onto stay but we know Brennan Rogers isn't exactly a absolute shore fire in the transfer market. He's got eighty million there to potentially get two players. If we're talking lester gee I wonder who has replacement at centre-half would be insert Colo Tura joke here KUNA toy fantastic conduct no but all joking aside site. That's going to be interesting how they managed dot cash influx yeah <hes>. Let's see we move on J._J.. After a lot of back and forth Antoine Congressman is finally a member of Barcelona. We've seen it. He's trained with them. I've seen him in the Jersey smiling awesome to contract everyone else. He was not Davey Weiss already at their first training session. which is how you're welcome to Maitland anyway if you if you fly into Barcelona there's going to be someone there to not make you? It's not works. This one is interesting to me because on the surface I was reading an article at the B._B._C. About how Graffman fits into Barcelona and on the surface <hes> what they say and what I agree with is that this is a perfect fit. <hes> you can keep you can put Suarez in the middle. You put messy on the right Greenman on the left and it just it's all like it's seamless plus Grossman playing for Simione at Athletico Madrid has basically had the work ethic thrust upon him that you will track back and defend automatically he comes into this team now and he is by far their best defending attack-minded minded player <hes> so he'll be that versatile player that maybe they hoped Patino would have been or someone like that and never was he'll be that he'll track back and he'll defend <hes> so right out of the gate I look at it and I think that this is this is a great move for Barcelona <hes> <hes> but we're the question start to come in is well what happens next like if they then go the distance here and pull off some swap with P._S.. G to then also bring a Neymar okay. We'll you've brought in now. You've brought Neymar end but have you done that at the risk of kind of like kind of like uneven ing out the role that grease men will play for you. Like where does he go. You've got what you wanted and then you go and pylon too much. It's like cake too much which is just not gonNA go well. You'RE GONNA have stomach cramps all kinds of things. It's hard for me to Cy. Don't get name. The where. Do you even play him. If you go back to doing name like the same front three that was so successful for them. A few years ago and slop agrees men in their the Ryen behind yeah I would think he would have to be okay. I mean dot could or someone else moves that could still potentially work but you're you probably be asking grease men to potentially play much deeper in the field. Dot Dot is tricky rickie. I look at it and I say leave well enough alone. Yeah like I just I don't know right now. Name are just he just feels toxic to me <hes> at least as demanded in the last twenty four hours these demanded that he be released and let go <hes> <hes> he's also started you know putting out into the ether about the greatest moments of his career on one of them was at Barcelona when they turned around the six one are the four one and came back in one. He's clearly he's being Neymar yeah. Yeah I don't is is it possible we see scenario where he's called in the Nether Zone where he usually when clubs really want a player it gets forced through it happens we seen it to lesser extent this summer degrees men but the history of it is if Barcelona Real Madrid wants on Monday ended up getting them we saw what Rinaldo even at United. Is it a case now that doesn't happen because Barsa don't need him that badly. no-one else can afford him P._S.. G He will be absolutely implacable. They will there will be no movement from them and he ends up just being stock while there are there are rumors out there. We've been talking about it now for weeks of potential swap between P._S.. G. And Barcelona now who's involved is still not entirely entirely clear but the name you keep seeing our Cotino rackets whom T- <hes> sometimes use Monday umbrellas name is thrown in there. That's a lot of names I'm not saying it would be all four of those for Neymar but some combination of those names would probably be involved in a swap plus. There might be another forty million latched on top of it so look if I'm P._S.. G. And Barcelona are willing to give me some semblance of that plus the cash I'm doing it. Why do you WanNa have this malcontent around your team when honestly like you you know I think probably higher of Neymars a player than you do but I look at E._S._p._N.? And said you don't even need him. You have them Bob Pay. You have Cavani like you're still a great team. You can still compete in a Champions League on Thomas to chill will be of of of that view too who should like the names now. I know some of the players that we're talking about. Swapping in for Neymar aren't necessarily of his quality but like sometimes quantity over quality matters you bring a bunch of really good players and get rid of one great one who by the way has not shown you inability to stay healthy and and that goes not just for P._S._G.. But that goes for when he's been with his international side with Brazil cut bait. He's not a young player anymore. Go ahead. Bring deepen your squad. Make that swap I would do it. I would absolutely do it especially if they give you. Forty million more like some of these rumors are suggesting I don't know what they're waiting for unless they think that they can get more money from Barcelona and they're just going to try to push this all the way to the end but if they're not careful they're gonNA miss out altogether and come back and they're gonNA have this guy who doesn't want to be there. Who's going to be difficult? It's Matt consider that one of the best players in the world losing him would make your team better but I think we've probably got to that stage now where it is just too toxic so in terms of back to Barcelona and their side of this. Let's pretend nothing else happens and they just go into the season with grease woman. <hes> added to the squad is presently constituted does that I almost hesitate to even ask the question. Does it make them the favourite heading back into next season's Champions League because I thought they were the favourite already even without him <hes> and like look Liverpool did what they did but Barcelona were up three nil in the second leg of a Champions League semifinal so I don't know how much more work really needed to be done. Do we really need to do this question. Though because it's it's most seasons their favorites Virginia Champions League. I don't think we need to do it. I think I think he can safely say they're going to be in the final four. <hes> the last bit on this has been the angry reaction from Athletico Madrid in the way this transfer went down because there's some fishing as there was a release clause that basically lessened by eighty million once it got to what was the date July I forget exactly when but there's the belief is that Barscelona had agreed to terms with grease men back in March they waited <hes> till the money went down from the in the release clause and then they pulled the trigger on it how they how they prove that I don't know look I don't know how they prove it either and this will end up being sorted out behind closed doors. Maybe in the Court of Arbitration for sport maybe go to fee for UEFA bought Dave every right to be angry. They feel that there was a deal brokered that was within the higher released laws realm and they don't feel they're getting the most amount for their for their asset. That's totally fair. It's all business business. Maybe this is like the sentimental part of me <hes> but I I don't know I find it a little bit disappointing now that I feel like reason he's kind of being it's all being painted in this shady light where he'll now probably be hated like he'll go back there and get booed and whistled. He would get that anyway. He absolutely would get that anyway. I don't mean to talk down Athletico Madrid but we thought grease men was GONNA leave them a couple years ago but he stayed through the beginning of their new stadium to give them Kinda like one last push in the Champions League or the League. He probably stayed longer than I would have gay. I haven't seen the tenor from Athletico Madrid to be anti grease. Men are well. It's Anti Barcelona Bear Salerni think that's going to get taken out on when the sure that happens anywhere because they're the big fish you know sometimes like you think in Hazardous Real Madrid play Chelsea in European competition you think he's GonNa get booed by Chelsea fans. No way conquering hero just beloved don't i. I'm not so sure about that then. They're they've lost. Their minds honestly insane if there's always portions of the fans who don't like it I I don't even know what to do with that. Comment Yeah and Chelsea fans are notoriously short. No one short memory though one is booming Eden has all right midnight <hes> let's see we move on Jayjay to another one that is done and it's Fabian Dell who goes from Manchester City to Everton <hes> this could go up to ten million pounds when it's all said and done. I don't have a ton to say about this. One other then I feel like this is a good move for both club and player Justin reached out to us and he said think nine million pounds steal it point five million pounds and I replied it's a return to our senses as a footballing nation Justin. That's what it is fiscally conservative commonsense spending. This is the Rand Paul policy of football transfers. This is a large amount of money and something that we should be very wary of. We're going to use that draw for whenever we don't like transfer okay. We're just gonNA say fiscal responsibility. We're here but can I just do do something quickly on. He turns thirty in November and while this fee feels right. Is it a good move for Everton 'cause they're signing him presumably as a central midfielder and he hasn't really played center midfield with Anne level consistency consistency since fourteen fifteen deaths were surgency at city came where I left back in that seventeen eighteen season so it's going to be very interesting to see what is going to happen when he returns to the more demanding position of central midfield dot is all it would say about that. You're right but that this is natural position so I think he can do it yeah. I don't know I'm curious about that. One his whole success was based round being in a different position to midfield and he hasn't played there really he played there awhile but not since Aston Villa not really so. I don't all right <hes> well for Everton I. I don't know I feel like it's it feels like a good move to me and I'll leave it at what you said there. <hes> let's see before we get to. I was going to talk about arsenal but <hes> there were a couple of other transfer rumors. The Khanna snuck up today since we wrote this rundown <hes> I did want to mention Athletico Madrid it appears are going well. Karen trippy we think is headed down there for a medical tomorrow in what would be rumored to be a twenty five million pound move for him to <hes> to head to Madrid. I ate strange to me. A defender who struggles goes with defending going to Madrid we'll find out if Simione can get that out of him. That's kind of his his calling card. Cure and trippy is interesting because everyone is all so like it's just so strange to me when when the whole world knows the pinnacle of your like we all watch the peak of his life when he did this in the World Cup it is cured it varies Milton bitter strike everything for him was building building building he did that and then it was all down down. He got hurt before the end of that game England lost. He was never really the same when he came back to Tottenham so I don't know exactly the player that Athletico Madrid think they're getting but that's why it's it's that trippy at scored that goal certainty over the course of last season his stock has fallen so this is good move for him really good move yeah <hes> and another one J._J.. Rumors of Gareth Bale <hes> I saw rumors of Tottenham being interested in him row Madrid apparently are GonNa Start having this eighty million euro. This is where we need to wait for more concrete stuff. This is where I can't do. It's funny because everything you hear about bail in Real Madrid's that he's the one who doesn't want to leave but he's not enjoying himself. Don't you feel like it's the end of the night at a bar and a guy. There's just hammered and he's been in a bar fight in the bouncers are pulling them outside and he's like he hasn't been enjoying himself for the last hour. He's fighting everyone inside. He wants to go home but he's still yelling about how you know. He's holding onto the walls. He's grabbing anything. You can try to prevent the bouncer from throwing them out. I feel that's bail at Madrid right now. Just got their man like it's it's just not working for you. Go somewhere else. You'll be happy so <hes> <hes> that's about it right now. For the Marquis transfer rumors that we wanted to discuss. I do have one arsenal note. <hes> we'll get to John Barnes so sixteen prominent arsenal supporters groups and bloggers have come together rather head of the list has been our own friend Iris blog they've united and they've signed a letter calling for Stan Kroenke to quote reinvigorate the club <hes> wording in the letter like club at a crossroads Hashtag tag we care do you. This is an really interesting one to me. <hes> I totally understand why they feel the way that they do because the club for real since essentially since the Vangere rain began this is definitely the the low point from a performance perspective from certainly from morale perspective and you know little things can go along way like so you already have this stigma about you where the fan base doesn't really know how invested you are and then even in this bad season you wind up in a cup final for in the AROPA league with a chance to actually get yourself back into the Champions League which would have been a massive lift for the club and who knows what might have meant in the summer the transfer window Oh and he's not there for that. He doesn't show up like it's a small gesture and I wonder if he even realized how far that would go when he decided not to be there for that game because it's it's now kind of reinvigorated the fan base against him. Yes we should mention Josh Cranky. His son penned an open letter to Arsenal fans today so this was his response which was swift response but as ours blog pointed out a bad response response he said at least some at least it was something <hes> there was nothing in an accent really like P._r.. Talk and kind of you know highfaluting talk about brain the club and the glory in the Marble. He didn't mention the marble floors at Highbury but he might as well <hes> but this interesting paragraph for me. We know we have some of the most passionate fans in any sport anywhere in the world. It's part of what makes us such a special and unique club that was the tenor of most of the letter and what we understand appreciate an agree with concerns about our club failing failing to achieve our goal of qualifying for the Twenty Nine Hundred Twenty Champions League we respectfully disagree about our club being at a crossroads and that things need to change because so much change has recently occurred that is a pretty fundamental gap between fan and <music> owner perceptions aware Arsenal Arash and that's that's the worry Andrew. They think they've made changes. They think they're moving forward can't before we move off this one quick thing yeah. Swiss ramble is hey twitter. Follow who is a guy based out of Switzerland. I think he's arsenal fan but he talks about the business of football all clubs and he has in brilliant thread from July the first which goes through exactly where are the rat. No you ask me in the rundown. How much of arsenal problems are down to Stan Kroenke ownership? He focuses in on a few key ones. I'm going to run through them really really quickly. Arsenal were the only club in England's big six to see revenue fallen twenty eighteen in fact there thirty eighty eight million dollar million pound growth since two thousand sixteen is miles lower than their main rivals four hume have had revenue growth above a hundred million most painfully in this time Tottenham of close the gap from one hundred forty one million to just just ten million in twenty ten A._F._C. Revenue of two hundred twenty three million second only to man united in England but they have slipped a fifth place in twenty eighteen with three hundred eighty nine million. They are now at least fifty million behind the top four clubs looking at the twenty eighteen money league. It is striking to see that arsenal had the worst revenue performance of all the clubs in the top twenty falling by thirteen million compared to the previous year and stark contrast. There was strong year on year growth at Liverpool. We'll Chelsea Tottenham and Manchester City A._F._C.. Commercial revenue has barely grown at all in the last three years up by just four million since two thousand fifteen and the same period growth of the other big six club ranges from thirty thirty eight million to seventy nine million northern neighbors Tottenham of more or less close the gap to arsenal so josh Cranky says we need a period of stability not more change. That's not true. Arsenal falling way behind and stabilizing is no good. If everyone else is pushing forward. Go read that tread it is scary. If you're national fan they are miles behind and that that is at the door the ownership yeah. I'll tell you what we'll take a very quick break. When we come back we'll talk with John Barnes Liverpool Legend too great conversation? You're not gonNA WANNA miss it. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting Dole's she has plenty of time to think if we could sadly he has no brain however when most nesting all his the GEICO not only saves people money but also has been providing great service over seventy five years she thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer pity in most nesting dollond lot in life. Oh back now on caught offside J._J.. Let's get right to it. John Barnes what a great conversation we had with them not so long ago promoting the upcoming Liverpool match at Yankee Stadium <hes>. Let's just get to a right now. What do you say oh absolutely range of issues here we are J._J.? Over three hundred appearances for Liverpool Seventy Nine appearances for England is in town getting ready for Liverpool's matching Yankee Stadium Against Sporting on July twenty four th we are thrilled to have John Barnes and with us now. He's also famous for this John. How were you very well? But why are you going to upset J._J.. Putting on England song from on and well you know where the enemy when he comes to that comedy relief. That's why you're a hair because if ever in Ireland on your they're singing down to that England song they would kill you absolutely they would. I'm a new order fine and I'm a child of the ninety s and the one thousand nine hundred World Cup was coming of age for football and that song was my secret passion passion for years secret because of course Ireland worlds were nine hundred nineteen the world yeah we played you. I can't exactly so when that song came on Bingo parallel on who you supported supporting Ireland what's announcing Oh but we had a brilliant our our son was is brilliant dot year as well put him on the pressure was very good allender Song Yeah Mick McCarthy on drums. Can you believe that probably the best thing for them or you've been when he was a player. Yeah I thought you meant when was that Mick. McCarthy Roy Keane spats that was two thousand two thousand John. Can I throw notre spanner in the works while we're here. We're re reminiscing on culture. That wasn't the big John John Barnes influence of my life that wrap what happened the year after I believe when all that that hype about the England semi-finalists This was kind of coming to fruition this advert happened. It wasn't the year off though I mean that's going on now living on that. This advert Dole was what changed it for me this mclucas in support it gets the first fast chronic means is invalid with their body fluids John that changed everything that was that was the year before I think that was ninety one. I think that was eighty nine I think well I watched it and it was the coolest thing I've ever seen as Lucas aid sport energy drink gatorade. Oh don't say things on the radio. That's what it is. Other products are available and they are and the the advert was quite retro at the time because my body then all of a sudden glistened with with a blue sheen as if we're not drunk Luca say that's new bodies like what you one of those old films which was cool at the time looking back thinking this is terrible so John Comes in off the field and things aren't going quite right. He seems to be traded but wait. He takes the drink and that's it so I see and I start on nine years of age and I start hassling my mother mom mom. Are you going to town mom. You're going to town says yeah what what you want. I Sultani Lucas Board. Get Straight to your thirst foss however ever. If you remember the end of this commercial which you may not remember I then kick the can yes and it went into the Ben now. <hes> it took about well we soon finished it because the direct the wanting me to actually kick can into the Ben so there's no social effects so there's no special effects however what had happened was the been was probably about ten feet away and it's like it's a can so for me to kick the can into the Ben. We're going to be there forever so that are going. Ah I said so first of all the first camera kicking the can in the air you went yes and then I said and then you're gonna see drop into the Ben. You don't actually seeing me kick into the band saw took over the director and said so why don't you just fill me kicking someone stands above a ban and drop it in and they went okay yeah we'll do because we're going to be here all day if the why do you want me to do that if there's no need for it so it looks as if I kick the can straight into the been but I'm blue-state sports still gets the policy. Just can't help to kick the can into the Ben. That's fair. That's a good point. John Barnes with us here in Studio John. Let's start talking about this game <hes> Yankee Stadium I are you. Do you follow baseball because it was interesting. I was talking to I'm Jay. Jay's brother wants who is is over in Ireland and I assume as somebody who grew up here in the United States like there's guys who play abroad and other countries that I know now I think everyone knows and here I always thought Derek jeter was of that level J._J.. Brother had no idea who he was there. Eat Them Feminine Limit. I'm from Jamaica so so Mike My Sisters live in Florida and D._C.. And family you know from Jamaica live here so I've been coming to America for years so I do know Atlanta Braves Kirby Puckett with my favorite team. I don't know Derek jeter so I know a little bit about American sports because I have lots of family here but in England they would not no up. I mean they'll know Babe Ruth. I suppose <hes> in terms of modern players you do have a niche market for it's a for example when the Red Sox GonNa pay the Yankees Stadium you know would imagine would be full but in terms of the general public there wouldn't they wouldn't necessarily have a clue but I I know Derek Derek jeter obviously a non yeah so the braise where Martine <hes> the the Yankees of course historical team alike then the red sox because of the relationship with Liverpool Right <hes> but in the old days the braves were my family team talk about Jamaica there and I was thinking being yesterday when everyone talked about Wand Isaka Sawn of immigrant on his way at twenty one without even fifty senior appearances to match US united for a record breaking deal and I thought if you and on I thought how much would John Barnes Gopher in this market. Do you ever ponder what how much you be worth. I on the an I would wish that if I was playing now I would go on a free transfer which then means you saw lexi Sanchez on a free transfer five hundred thousand pounds a week because he's on a free transfer. Why would want to be transferred for one hundred million whereby then my salary would want to be two hundred thousand pounds a week free transfer for me but I taught I'm talking? I don't care no one hundred million norm running my contract down free transfer but but let's imagine for second job because you are a a wing or which was apprised acid at that time manage the free. I have imagined the free transfer but this is this is this is talk on being and I'm talking talk about Bob. I'm on a free. I'm saying one hundred and fifty million city limits any something you are worth what someone's prepared to pay him now. It's unrealistic the whole transfer sagas honorary stick because for example a player who you may say he's GonNa go to a mid-table permanently league team. He's GonNa cost twenty million is that same player is going to go to mentioned the city. They may pay seventy million for him because that's managed to city on the team on him to be macos Manchester's. They have the money. What is he really worth twenty minutes or seventy million whatever someone's prepared to pay for you so <hes> <hes> you know under those circumstances I think that's even if thing that hurts the premier league as a whole because I feel like leagues around Europe Know How much money they get from their T._v.? Contracts and so they jack up the coil it doesn't hurt the permanent four because they do it but it's but it it's just more demanding and and and therefore you can make a lot of money from teams into primarily because they pay over the players but you know they can afford to do with their okay. I'll tell you what let's talk about this Liverpool side right now that just one the Champions League it feels like it all starts with Klopp to me. I mean have you had the chance to to meet with him. Talk with him. What makes him him well? What makes him him is the fact not just want makes him him but what makes him <hes> be the Liverpool matters of that as is because of the relationship and the Hump The hominy with the fans because he he he identifies with them? They'd ninety five with him. <hes> he's not necessarily yes. He's a great manage. I think than himself and PEP Guardiola best managers but more importantly marinas are good manager Fang all these managers but what he's done. He's he's created an environment that the fans like passion excitement humidity respect for the bigger picture in terms of what the club is all about and that's what Liverpool demands so I think it's just a marriage-made-in-heaven in terms of his character suiting Liverpool now to the ground with it manages and with with players there are no you go to a top club. You're not a bad manager about player but you have to find them. Rights Environment that suits you on the little put environment very similar to the Dortmund environment suits him down to the ground. What was the environment like when you played for liberal well? Of course you know <hes> it. It was a big drinking environment obviously the way it was back then but it was a that was the culture back then anyway but the environment once again I said I felt I played on a bill. shankly because bill shankly created this harmonious humble environment which means that you have to have a respect for the for for for Liverpool itself scousers the community being part of the community which means that you can't you know you look at clubs in London for example whereby the players may be a little bit not supercilious but because London is a big city whereby there's Thatt's and you could be a bit of a superstar in Liverpool verse. I'M GONNA throw out and we are Irish from diplomat wife's family from galway. You have to have humidity and the respect for the fans that average fan so you can walk around like you're a big superstar in Liverpool unless you buy into that culture as a player regardless of how good you are so someone like in Russian Kenny Dalglish for example as much as they're seeing the superstars. The fans won't be able to identify with them to connect with them and they can't then not sign autographs or pretend to big whereas in other clubs you. It's accepted that you know the big players superstars fans congress to them in Liverpool that can't what happens so you have to have the right character to play for Liverpool forget about how good yards a player because even if you look at this livable team now you I wouldn't say that necessarily the players are better than the other clubs but the atmosphere that's been created the environment one of togetherness humidity the one of belief <hes> which comes from the manager means that we have been more successful. Unfortunately Mansi tiff created that about cultures well on you can see you see what they've done. John <hes> J._J.. The Liverpool supporter that he is he he talks me all the time time about those nights anfield the European nights at Anfield and I used to roll my is that it and then you watch and you see a little bit and you see things like what happened the second leg against Barcelona and the the Everton match earlier this year with the the Regal and you start to think <hes> like maybe this is a thing. What was your like what you're defining moment in that building? I have no defining moments. I told my whole ten years in my defining moment the roughness move I mean J._J.. How oldies but he may remember Nineteen eighty-nine we meet the League against Southland last game in the season so yeah so but everyone sees things differently on someplace may feel particular moment is defining moment but you know what shows you the play you are and you mentioned the player? Now <hes> won't be soccer is going to Manchester United fifty million pounds off the having six good months livable. We'll have a certain period of time before I went to a club like a big club like I had to be playing for England for four years and be ties for six years before I went because what they do. They want to show that you have a level of consistency because that's what's demanded that Liverpool so that we wanna champions the now these finishing means nothing because if we then still hold onto the fact that we're Champions League winners on me lose the first five games of the season. We're still Champions League winners but what are we going to do next season goes about looking to the next season so you defy my defining moment is off to your ten years as you look back and you say ruffin smooth have however I don't over that period of time to show me the player I am so there aren't any defining moments but talking about the atmosphere's Liverpool. It's about the passionate of the fans because he's not the biggest stadium even only been the nicest stadium it is now that we we've autopsy is very nice now but when I paid about the passion that is engendered by Liverpool fans I suppose when you talk about historic passionate people look at the Yankee Stadium Look at Fenway Stadium and you can have nice estate then fenway she'd imagine biggest than fenway but the passion that's there because of the history and the traditions behind that that club means that the fans and the club by into an identity of solidarity and for me that's what that was what liberals all about we often talk in this podcast Jonah boat glaze as who seem to blossom when they play for their country versus their clubs and then there's other guys who are magnificent for the clubs and maybe it doesn't quite work out for for their country. How do you review your time Worthington? Well a set on. I always always believed that you have to create the right environment to maximize your potential so bad place good place on with Liverpool it with the perfect environment to me to play the way that actually played but paying for England was different because of course back then English football wasn't necessarily you talk about in the eighties wasn't necessarily Saturday up out technique and skill it was about aggression and of course. I don't know you are a young young man but if you remember Jack Charlton with Ireland yeah it was about the same thing f you didn't need technical players because the laws of the game where such back then they could be very aggressive when you're tackles you can be very aggressive and and that's GonNa was so if you look at the technical player of the <hes> who who played for that time they were never really appreciated me. Chris waddle Glenn Hoddle these players and a player who's technically the greatest English flat in history technically in my opinion who was never given the any paying today would be better than any player technically was Glenn Hoddle Technique with incredible. I remember when I played freeman an off the training products with all sit around and could be finished training Glenn Hall will be out juggling a footballer doing things with the ball but back then he wasn't about that it was about just getting stuck in so therefore Glenn Hoddle was an appreciated but if he was playing now so for me who was who was a technical player as much as tempting on caps. I was always inconsistent because the nature of the game that was paid in England the nature of the team whereas Liverpool was always a technical team so therefore that suited we better. Do you think that I I know this is this is maybe a cliche way to go to put just to set the scene for some of our our younger listeners you go to the American I with England way. Before probably the most high-profile friendly you could come up with for the Nineteen Eighty S England-brazil and you run through the entire Brazilian defense and think it home did that set a standard or level that people in those days just had you you elevated standard that was not possible to replicate every single game but it wasn't because of the way we actually played so therefore the on occasion and Glenn Hall we do great things but then he wouldn't have Chris Baldwin because the nature of the game the team now without a technical players in every game because of the way the games played eight and what's expected would always be consistent. You will know <hes> because obviously where you're from the greatest player in my opinion who would rival Glenn Hoddle I would even maybe put him above him. <hes> WHO's my favorite of all time on almost eight British because he's not coaching from Ireland is Liam Brady right now. Liam Brady is one of the greatest players ever but he never really for the Republican body played. He didn't show what he can do. Football that was played at that particular time for the Republican environment wasn't that type hyper football so the technical players who played in honor of the U._k.. Back then of course come Jack Charlton's time that aren't on how to while they were competitive and they actually beat England. They weren't necessarily the most technical team because that's what was not what was required so <hes> to then reconcile the fact of how you play for your club and you country had to do with once again as I started out by saying create an environment that suits the players and the environment of Liverpool suited me the environment of England suit me so that is why we spoke about how you know you maximize your potential for your club or your country and interesting sometimes someplace play better for their country do their Club yes Darius Vassell who played fast who scored goals for England and but for for his club's you'd never really did anything but what he paid scored all the time creating the environment to suit the pledge. which is what you're KLOPP has done unfortunately so it's pep Guardiola? That's the most important thing John Barnes here with us in Studio Getting Ready for July twenty four th at Yankee Stadium Liverpool and sporting part of the Western Union Cup John You're talking about <hes> England Lenhart Saudi-omani say something that was interesting to me. He was talking about the Africa Nations Cup and he said that he would trade the Champions League for a win there. Did you feel similarly in terms of your time with England versus Liverpool. Is that an unanswerable of course when I it depends on what competition it is European Championship for the League in one thousand nine hundred no no no no no no for me. The League is much more important champions the every year that is not what I'm talking about. You're talking about Lincoln and Liverpool. You're talking about COP. No I mean like in the Euro eighty-eight you go there for England offerman the Champions League no no you're not euro eighty-eight not not the European champion right to semifinal no no no no no no no no not the European Championship Porco World Cup okay what I what I take a World Cup with metal for a League winners medal. Yes I would but what I take European Championship with his mental over League mental know what I take <hes> European Champions League mental over League mental no so so the only one I would give up for the League Championship so World World Cup trump's all unfortunately because of course I remember when <hes> you know football has got a lot of banter and I remember <hes> one of the Liverpool players was telling me that they actually were on a not a holiday but there we're paying teams Southampton. They're both at live who were winning the European Cup and you know Southampton. Just you know in an average team. Of course you know the band Tony Make Fun of players and there's a placard Alan Ball and pay for Southampton and the Liberal Plaza just on the European Cup and they're not showing off on the European Cup you know get you metals is that what medals of you on Sun and not on bulb and just the big on some nineties you won the World Cup in nineteen eighty six but of course I thought through reading nothing so obviously I say we play for the European Cup Southampton of one nothing. What have you on the World Cup just went? Oh sorry humbling John. I am one of my favorite documentaries that I I regularly watch back because it's just so brilliant is an impossible job about Graham Taylor's time with England where you were a prominent player for him. In the early ninety s and there's the moment at home where the camera is on the English dugout and Graham Taylor things aren't going quite okay against SOM- marine on the crowd of getting on his back and he turns around and he shouts out of fine. He says he says awesome respect. That's another human being you're talking about and it was the inference was because the narrator leads us in that somebody had been racially abusing you on the field <hes> on Libya certainly in the past six months. I've seen you on so many ATV shows back home at talking very articulately in cogently about this issue in football my questions you is. It's twenty something twenty six years on. Does it depress or weary you that we're still having these conversations. I don't I don't in the last three or four months. <hes> I don't talk about the situation of racism in football talk about the situation of racism in life yes when I say until we attacked it in society that exists in all walks of society which football is one so while we want to push the narrative about lack of black managers factor rain starting may racially abused Utica what's going on in cities for young black kids and say that's what we have to tackle forget about Rahim sterling going to Montenegro being racially abusing the lack of education social and vocational opportunities economic opportunity for kids in the in the inner cities. He's <hes> is what we have to challenge now for him starting and I'll say to him <hes> it's fine to give one hundred black kids in stonebridge park near Wembley rare. I've actually played many years ago one hundred tickets to the cup final. What does that doing for their lives what he should do with those blockades put them in taken to a press conference? These kids are being disenfranchised and not being given opportunities education to be socially economically. This is what we have to challenge not that gives them one hundred cup final tickets without doing so then to look at what's going on in Montenegro nickeled what's happening in your own environment and I always feel that there are groups of people who want to who want to talk about how bad it is for them so in young black people I'm walking down the street in London black guy sweeping the road and he says how terribly feels for me because I get a job as a manager. The CIA say well you do our live with you know the car drive said what about you. Why don't you demand for yourself and the children and you're on your on your community more respect on more equality on what I do so I don't speak about how bad it is for me because I think what's happened? Is We've had an elite group of people commandeering being social issues for their own end out giving examples hair. The metoo movement Toronto Burke Toronto Burke started to meet you move into two thousand six to talk about the problem that they were having for young black inner-city being sexually abused all of a sudden two thousand and fourteenth it comes along a Hollywood actress says the Metoo Movement and that's what he's now about about Hollywood actresses in Harvey Weinstein Colin Company taking a knee was about the fact that young black kids were being brutalized by the police and being sheltered up by the police. That's not what it's about now now. He's about Donald Trump trump. It's about the right for a the message is now lost because they've been commandeered by any need group of people so we'll talk about racism in football talk about it in life until we attacked it in life and get rid of it from the lowest level we would always be elevated out of blackness. Black Presidents is to have you know beyond saying John Manager but what's going on down varies much more important so so the conversation that myself Andrew have regularly on the podcast when something happens to Morsi keen and we're like will walk can Italian football do or watching should clubs to watch it defines be watching his actions be utterly facile. It's not because it has to be addressed but there's enough people talking about how terribly football and not enough people high profile people because high profile people talk about you know Black Actors Oscars and black like singers Congress emmys. They're making a lot of money living in Hollywood there. Okay who's talking about the people down there so we need the people who have the voice the high profile people to say we're okay. Yes I do want to manage on the new wanted to be equal but until we're GONNA change our perception and put it this way when we listen I'm all name names but people say to me a lot high profile managers and friends of mine who are white and they say they don't see me as being black and they think they're paying me a compliment so if I were to say well if you don't seem as being black what did you see me as being and in their own head they will probably think well normal so is black not normal no. It's not that's the perception society has black secondly. One is the perception of black that I am not because I don't smoke marijuana trucks you know so what we have to he's changed society's perception of what black as not any black individual but we we absolve ourselves of responsibility to become ourselves because I voted for Obama and I love beyond sad my friends black elevated him out of blackness out of what our perception of black is so we don't have to change perception of black individual offer woman over home or of a famous woman over famous homosexual when headed Marin and and Meryl Streep Oscars and they say this is a victory for women over seventeen. No it's not it's victory for you to call you toward the only ones getting right you want a black person wins. An Oscar is fantastic for back people. No it's not it's fantastic for you for ninety nine percent of black people women or homosexuals average ones nothing changes for them and that's what we have to change not for the elite group. I'm curious you mentioned Kareem Sterling and you know bring kids to two games and a better way to go about or have you spoken to him because he's it seems like he's almost become whether he wants to or not like the spokesperson for this movement and football right now is he receptive to these ideas that you're talking well because culture here this is concerned with football. He's talking about Terminator's in football but I want to say to him that we'll talk about what's happening in the community where you came from because we would always be able to elevate people out of blackness which we will elevate football blackness for them to be accepted whereas what's happening down there and I think them now. We have a voice ice whereas once upon a time we didn't because black thirty years ago you have to just get on with it. You know if you if you spoke out against the data cipollini shoulder you not strong enough. You know you not resilient enough and you couldn't complain whereas now you can and you can't complain and talk about making a change making a difference talk about what's really important because there's a big night crime problem in England and when people talking about this for Footballer Says How many footballers have been stabbed to death none so why don't we highlight that so the people who have the voice the high profile people who have the voice it's left talking about alternatives for footballers or singers actors use voice to talk about on put the councils and the government on the pressure to change what's going on there so from a knife crime perspective. I said you know what you're gonNA. Change Ninth Prime let the people in Mayfair in London stocks to be killed and stopped white. People may stop killing. Stop them from something something we changed rather than just the black and the university I on not to believe the point but if you if you look at what you did though you have to view John Barnes ends in we'll say in nineteen eighty nine in your second season and you are absolutely lighting up the pitch and Onfield in a predominantly white city which had had its issues what race a decade beforehand less on your lighting up up and you're challenging these notions. You're kicked in mock. You're working hard all these terrible notions that were about misconception. What would what was the misconception about Irish an people from different this is this is what we have been wrongly sean about different groups of people and that's why I have to China China's the environment that makes people think the way they think don't challenge to individual who may be unconsciously racist? Why does he think that way something? That's made him thing that way that he's not a natural way but this is what life has wrongly shown him so ron life is wrongly shown him mm-hmm that from a black perspective from a homosexual from female perspective there are certain groups of people are less worthy so if affects us all not just the unconscious racist people who wanNA point the finger at not just the Harvey Weinstein's on the racist people racially abused Brahim startling because if we weren't gonNA go to war and uncomfortable in saying this because I said don't blame me for the way I think they should've been brought up and we all think it but we're afraid to say it the very much like with the whole thing which you know with which I spoke about if we're going to go to war and you had a choice and I'm not GonNa put you on on on the spot but I'll tell myself on the spot 'cause I'm comfortable and we had a choice of going to war with a big skillet with tattoos to fight by our side or a gay guy who'd we choose. Let's not say the skinhead because people are gonNA call us. You know homophobic so we're going to say it doesn't matter that's a to us because you know everybody's created equal. Do we really think that no we don't but we have to be allowed to express it like within these next president and then challenging but he knows he's wrong and he said I was wrong but I sought health but if he says it what happens everyone the heart and everybody so therefore anybody about who may feel. I do need help and I'm looking to get help. I want to speak about it. I better not because then I'll lose my job and people will say let's put him in prison right and it hurts the overall conversation of course it as a conversation has to be had because it comes from somewhere whereby it has been created because of what we've been wrongly told for the last two hundred years about different groups of people so completely understandable racism sexism homophobia homophobia is understandable because what we have been wrongly told John Barnes joining us here in studio on caught offside John. I do want to ask you July twenty four th Yankee Stadium Liverpool and sporting so so is this. Is this going to be just like Liverpool. PEP rally. Is that kind of what we're looking at here just a mass celebration here in the United States of Liverpool fans so let's be honest chat logs Lee Anderson every year every year you don't counselors or yeah absolutely not going to be different twenty year regardless of what fifteen years every time Liverpool player liberal fans get together it is it is a party atmosphere. I come from a place on the spurs supporter so I still like the SCAB. Lab is still healing over from the champions final so there's bitterness in my in my tone. That's you have to excuse you know what Tottenham where the better team on the day to admit but you know that's football. We've I'll take it but I'll tell you what I do and I say fans and related to me about celebration office celebrated midnight and went to bed on a forgot about it because what you have to do John put it to bed can cut across their go on John. You got you were a serial winner right. That's a fact you had your metals given to you in a by by Ronnie Moran because it was sore regular yeah right this was different but why would why Liverpool cereal winners you know why because when they won they forgot about you have to do it again but that's true now. If when we won we celebrated forever like we're doing now the two seasons thoughts and if we've lost the first five games you know who we are European Champions League winners but we've lost five game but it doesn't matter because of the European Champions League winners so when we keep losing matches on because we still thinking about where European champion China's what does that do in terms of so what the crop has done and he has always done is even when he's played games on big games and he's one so we've beaten on a four nil training the next day figured about Barcelona. We've got up prepare and if you're playing swindon town in the Calling Cup after beating Barcelona thinking about Barcelona's that's gone. We have to win this match whereas still felt Oh. We'd be possibilities fantastic. We may lose to spin them but it doesn't matter because we've beaten Barcelona that attitude. We have to forget so I'm saying to the fans yes come on celebrate. I'm not worried about you're gonNA competent team because he will then be focused on winning the next game a so the fans celebrate enjoy yourselves but forget about that. It's all about next season. I'm just curious in looking at that game and Liverpool's tour and really you know any number of European teams that come to this country you come to the U._S.. semi-frequently are you surprised by the passionate people here do have not just for soccer but the premier league specifically not at all because I've been coming regardless of whether I'm gonNA Ambassador Liberal be coming here as in that capacity for like the last three or four years but I've been coming here for the last twenty years not as a anything to do with Liverpool Benign. I've scene of the passion that people have here for General Tottenham. Fan of courses are probably the loudness but in England the scouts is out as well along with our brothers the Irish so but in terms of football fans who support all the teams in the Premier League around the world nevermind America. It's been apparent for the last twenty twenty five years. The difference now is that there's now a connectivity because the club is now coming here the club itself in terms of you know things like ex players coming to promote a tour and teams now coming here because when I played we would always go to Europe for preseason the the team would never come to America so as much as they've always had fans the connectivity relationship now by the clubs themselves all over Europe coming here to play to have a connection with the fans that's changed but the fact that they've been fans here have always been the case. I've interviewed Steve Nicol for his book launch there two years ago and I seen Graham soon this interviewed and they they poke quite emotional when I when the question was put to them if you could go back now if you had the time machine go back and still be and you're playing days. Would you do it and St Nickel now granted he he'd had a few drinks but he really did get a more snow. He will give anything to go back to those days what you should have our Stephen is that if you had a chance of playing now never been going back or playing narrow playing back then and and of course from a financial point view question to be happy to do. I WANNA free transfer. <hes> however Festiva Nico One hundred percent the answer would be not to be playing are earning three hundred pounds three hundred grand week because of course back then football was different whereby you are able to live your life and you just mentioned it there in terms of the what Steve Nicol had had on packets of Chris now whereas now Steve Nicol playing now would not be able to between what he was doing so would he take the three hundred thousand pounds a week not to be drinking you know ten or fifteen pounds and having packets of crisps <hes>. It's not even a question to be US gifts T._v.. The bear that's Great Love Stephen With Love John last one for me. I'm curious you mentioned Liam Brady before for <hes> one of your favorite players of all time. What about in today's game do you have a player specifically? Who's playing now that you would say is your favorite my favorite plan now? We'd be a liberal Massey's my favorite plan of whole time <hes> human marathon to Argentinians but anyway but in terms terms of Liverpool my favorite plan now without Fomento and I think he's one of the most important plus applicable Liverpool strong physical team when we talked about the identity of having someone the free midfield place we may not be Kevin Dubrow Dabid Silva in terms of technique but in terms of the effort determination they gave Santa unmonitored quick strong. They're almost technical plan which means that for me the most important player which is why Saleh and Mani scores twenty one goals because he vacates that petition for them to score he brings him into play is Roberto for menial. He's I'm most technical player in the team in full of effort desire determination when you need that bit a class in a tight area whereby rare strong dynamic running team. He gives us that John Final one for me. Can we win the League next season what needs to happen. Well I do improve. We have to lose one game because we've only lost one game. Is that going to happen. Probably not what has to happen. Is We have to get close to maximize maximizing potential because I don't expect us to to get ninety seven points next year and in fact if we get ninety points next year and win the League yes it success. We've on the League. Is that a better season. I'm getting ninety. Eighty seven points in terms of the consistency we've showed no but we've won the league which would mean Mansi of underachieve and they've gone further down so what we need to do is to get as close as we can to what we did this year and of course offering is an hope and have a word with teams to try and do better against fingers crossed on yeah. That's exactly what we talked about. Really the hope is that Manchester City can't sustain this because because we can't get any better we can't get better than ninety seven points a news one game in a League whereby we're told that everybody everybody the else why department is so strong no-one no-one beat men city now. Why not happen is because the two manages the the fans have given those two managers caught blondes to power the authority autonomy to drop players to pick what they WANNA pick to pay the taxes? They WANNA play where it's all the clubs they've been critical of their managers and said they're picking the wrong team and playing the wrong place. When your crop picks Mickey Mouse we still support him back him because we trust him and Manchester City all the same? We've PEP Guardiola. That is why those teams because they'll take Nancy plays aside throat. They've got lots of money with great replant. I will play us on better than United's are arsenals or Chelsea players but the hominy and the believe we have in the manager. It's better which is why we were successful July twenty four th Yankee Stadium. I say it's going to be a Liverpool PEP rally. Honestly if you're a soccer fan just go because it's going to be such a fun event to see that place is packed with soccer fans and and Liverpool Plank Sporting. There should be a great time John. This is awesome man. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. was there any topic he didn't cover. I mean that was pretty wide ranging. That was awesome. That was really cool very cool with them to give us as much time as he did that. was that was a a lot of fun. John Barnes Liverpool legend also stuff probably know him from clips from Sky News and B._B._C. News where he's at the talk. Every time something happens regarding racism and football are even racism in the world in general John Barnes I just saw eloquent and so cogent thoughtful he is. He's the man to bring out that was that was one of the best interviews we've ever done. I just enjoyed it so much. Hope everyone knows that great stuff hey before we <hes> move along here. I do WanNa tell you J._J.. Hiring used to be hard it used to be very difficult multiple jobsite stacks of resumes confusing review process but today hiring easy and you only have to go to one place to get it done. ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash offside. 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The Africa Cup of nations the final Friday. Hey at three o'clock wisest not on the weekend I WANNA talk. I gotTa talk to somebody about this because I don't get it. I don't like it you have an you have gone on the speed dial so you can just talk to them well. Their president's going to get mentioned later on in his Co.. Boy <hes> J._J.. Rian Maar as. does he scored a lot of big goals in his life but i think the biggest goal that he has ever scored happened in the semi final to put algieria into the spot here is what it sounded like the fell through l._p. states with give me the final ticket the game but miraculous maggots this chap djinnit jamie has come g._m. surely filled my jiri area incredible drama algeria go through where they will face senegal who i chose as my team that i thought would win this well here they are j._j. now i don't know if you saw the end of that game but cruel twist so senegal scored an extra time looked like tunisia had a last chance to equalize a penalty was awarded to them thought this was going to be their chance but subsequently it was overturned by far this came after tunisia also had a penalty saved earlier in the game now in fairness to senegal they also had a penalty saved earlier in the game game this game was it was crazy <hes> the tunisian own-goal that <hes> allowed senegal to get through it was so bad on multiple fronts first off dylan braun who was credited with the own-goal i don't really i know what he was doing with his header it was like i you have to kinda see it but it's just not a thing that you typically see a defender do the way he headed back to his keeper in the study did but even worse hassan's goalkeeping on it like it didn't it might have been kinda on a tricky for him to knock it away i wonder if david priests commented on it <hes> 'cause like i don't know just seemed like he just made such a mess of it so unnecessarily <hes> so brutal for tunisia who i don't know like senegal algeria <hes> egypt ivory coast there certain african nations that i feel like we kinda grow accustomed to seeing ghana like i in positions like this tunisia i don't know if they're really one of them so it's it's not a given that they'll get be able to get back here with much easier than they had such an opportunity <hes> <hes> like i said a missed penalty var intervening on another one that's that's a brutal brutal loss to the dave we remember them from the world cup in their game against england last summer they do plan attractive style of football i wouldn't be so sure that they they won't be back against that's true they are much which better than they used to be yeah <hes> senegal by the way i have never won this competition seems desire they are close now the final friday three o'clock senegal and algeria i'm gonna stick with senegal i said it will be north african team and i'm going to go with algeria <hes> let's c._j. we move along now m._l._s. wednesday eight o'clock p._m. toronto f._c. and the new york red bull's before we can't even really get into that game what we have to do is go back and talk about what happened hudson river darby <hes> the winning goal who like so many mistakes on so many different frontier well look it was a great game i really enjoyed it and i don't want to lose sight and we see very good in the first half rebels good in the second look this is what happened it's one one on the hour <hes> the linesmen callan has just kicked it out a play linesmen signals for a corner clearly the red bull's decide we'll take a throw in there is a dribble a pass and then across and royer knots home pretty good goal n._y._c. see protest referee alan kelly lows the goal n._y._c. a._f._c. are livid domi tehran gives sarcastic clap treatment to rockwell the linesmen kelly afterwards said he overruled the linesmen because he had a better psych line of where the ball went and that he verbally communicated it was a throw in on the field that to me is not gonna cut it once once the line's been points to that flag like that's that's kind of it right i mean n._y._c. a._f._c. are now preparing themselves for a corner dan rightfully so they are they definitely are those guys who've turned their backs to the play but i will say this an it's not just me i was at domain tehran's press conference afterwards where he was angry and he had a couple of good headlines and one of the things he said was something we learn at rec soccer player to the whistle and he felt that he said this if you think we made a mistake i can accept that on the goal in that you can't you've got to keep defending you can't rely on the referee or the linesmen you've got to keep playing but at the same time that cost us without a question and honestly alan kelly you can't believe what he says because he consults with the linesmen afterwards if he so sure in his mind that he's overruled lt why does he go on consult with the linesmen afterwards nobody heard him is what you say you have to verbally let people know verbally confirm your overruling or maybe he just needed to talk with the live and say did you point to the corner flight like he may be needed here's the thing watch in the overrules he knows he's pointed watching it in real time i remember thinking corner like i think allah kelly's right to me that clearly looked like it should have been throw in and n._y._c. a._f._c. originally thought that right like they look exasperated when when the line's important of the quarter flag they didn't think that was a corner right once he points to it now they readjust now you've got to you've also got to say as well and oi-see tried to defend it they couldn't is not like shawn johnson didn't dive is not like he stood there was brilliant header was an excellent goal yeah but at the same time i do understand astounded mason it shouldn't happen domain iran's big line to promote that press conference was you know we talk about m._l._s. being one of the big leagues in the world if it's gonna take the next step then the refs are a part of that it's been a bad couple of weeks for analysts officiating yes it has us because now like i feel like there's no the gloves are off now it seems like people aren't shy anymore no people are risking fines on social media you saw damarcus beasley max b._c. was just opening like after josie altidore initially was like a thing now and it's not a thing that gets better start if the players start doing making comments about the refereeing core with impunity that's a problem <hes> let's see after the game you actually had a chance to catch up with the newest star for the rebels aaron long i didn't need as he was in his past here's what that sounded like nice back into flow of a big win tonight the derby yeah of course it's it's one of those games that you almost hope does your first game back you know that's that's the way you wanna get back into the swing and things with your team is darby matching the win seem to be very very comfortable handle the physicality of haber on on what n._y._c. a._f._c. frontline brought you yeah i think especially in the first half they this a little bit of problems in terms of their style l. and tactically but i think we've made a lot of time and yeah we're ready to go i think second half we were very good when when you come back from international judy after kind of establishing yourself do you come back with climb the mine here this is this isn't going to worry me come back from international judy on be as comfortable as you are is an easy transition it's it's easy in the way that i feel at home here <hes> i wouldn't say i'm the man i mean there's a little bit of a change tactically and it's a big game so it wasn't like you know this is going to be a cakewalk by any means it was definitely easy to get up for because it is such a big game is the hair inspired by roberto basil or is it more country music muller's what are we going here honestly i've been doing high school me and my friend cut it together and <hes> it's just been on and off since since then for so long yeah i thought it asked about the hair although i have no reason i had a motive i will put a picture on twitter over heritz with what they dealt it was it was a blonde mullet as well it was shocking are you i i looked like i was from i don't know country singer from alabama who hasn't quite made i'm glad we met when we did because i think if we had met in like middle school i don't think we would have been friends are we friends know even wow <hes> let's see friday hey ten o'clock oh yeah l. traffic o. l. a. galaxy and l. a._f._c. <hes> l. a._f._c. have dominated the season obviously but quietly i think you'd have to say the galaxy have been one of the league's more improved sides so far this season it it was interesting for me to read the comments of one hercules gomez who emphatically stated that los angeles is now in l. a._f._c. town is that is that true i mean they are without doubt the dominant force in m._l._s. right now but i you know is the blame fan base interest is it all moving towards the black side of town i don't i honestly i couldn't answer that i'm not even going to try without like without being there her to to soak it i would say in terms of just from afar enthusiasm it feels like there's more around l. a._f._c. than there is the galaxy whether or not that's just because l. a._f._c. are better right now <hes> like the two were swapped if it was locked on doing what carlos villa is doing and the galaxy were like what is it eleven points ahead of the next closest team and m._l._s. then maybe things would be different <hes> i think it's intriguing now that you've got two teams so good in the one city yeah that dot is good god i may maybe it's a moot point whoever creates the most buzzer hype right now the fact that it's it's happening on mine imagine if either l._a. might if the galaxy play a role in some kind of collapse for l. a._f._c. some some kind of storyline like that that's where it began they meet in the postseason oh he wrote fund <hes> there was questioned over whether or not slots able to play in this game after he picked up his fifth yellowcard but he will be eligible here's what kevin baxter who covers the galaxy <hes> what he tweeted he he said here's the explanation from m._l._s. as to why ebro official at hebrew official won't miss the galaxies game against l. a._f._c. his yellowcard in the shawn johnson incident doesn't count against his total since he was suspended by the m._l._s. disciplinary committee for that that so i guess it's not like doubling up on okay on punishment so he will play which is good yes yeah <hes> sunday four o'clock atlanta united f c and d._c. united j._j. just before we went on the air i just did my customary check of e._s._p._n. s._p._n._f._z. just to see anything oh oh this here's the headline that i'm gonna read for you atlanta's shea brek shea out for season with quote destroyed knee that is as jarring a headline online you will soar nastya oh my god <hes> yeah that is that is sad that is unfortunate he was hurt <hes> against the sounders over the weekend torn a._c._l. and meniscus along with other damage in his knee that's what frank divorce has called the donohoe's triad i could be a._c._l. meniscus the whole thing i feel sick for him <hes> that's going to be a long i can't talk about that i've had two surgeries on my knees i can't go to move on us sunday nine thirty seattle sounders and portland timbers is a great <hes> great weekend of of analyst soccer there's also midweek games but most of these i'm covering our weekend once great win for seattle over aforementioned atlanta thanks to a row route we d. as in harry ship in that one who got the goals did you see role rudeina's gory oh reminded me of muscle tweeted and then i thought oh yeah you're right reminded keith cost again of gascoyne versus scotland where he flicks it over the colin hendry head and volleys it very very special goal to look one more to get to hear ear j._j. n._w._s.'s well this is your e._s._p._n. two game sunday six o'clock chicago red stars against the north carolina courage north carolina of course you're defending champs they are starting to assert their control over the league again gone on beaten down there last five coming off to win over rain n._f._c. <hes> chicago meanwhile coming off a one no win over houston katie johnson scored her first gulf or the club so congrats to her <hes> so with north carolina right now they are in first but chicago are i believe tied for their tied for second or they're in third right now <hes> but it's it's close still at the top so this could be a this is an interesting game sunday six o'clock on e._s._p._n. what about sunday's game between the thorns and the pride that was just such an unbelievable game i watched the first half was didn't really want to leave how the go-to red bull arena and then the second half just exploded for three and this is how the thorns finally put the nail in the coffin to the pride will they be celebrated three points or to the back most the three what finish ninety third minute creek absolutely great game and everything including full house atmosphere mr was awesome so great stuff like we said six o'clock e._s._p._n. to chicago north carolina j._j. let's do this now red card wanna go i yeah i just woke up to this tweet this morning from the i._f._a. be those are the rules men in in charge of the rules of the game we love and this was there twee because we needed this new law changes twenty nineteen twenty twenty goalkeepers cannot score by throwing the ball directly into the opponents gold if they do a goal kick is awarded the opposing team sorry i don't like this rule chains who is doing this anyway it's not happening explanation if the goalkeeper throws the ball directly into the opponents gold goal look is awarded but this is the kicker if the goalkeeper throws the ball into the teams own-goal a goal is awarded well that should be wait a minute goalkeeper throws the ball into the opponents goal yes so this is the root that they need so now we're just like planet is anyone hurling it from the edge of their box we're now litigating completely fictional situations when's the last time this happened i can't wait for youtube to prove me wrong it happened opens opens up and swallows all twenty two players out on the field corner kick will be a war like how big is the rule book that they needed to include this but you think of all together pressing matters they have to deal with and this is what they're tweeting to me this morning come on that's that is utter nonsense sense <hes> j._j. my red card goes to the confederation for african football president ahmad ahmad removing corruption from fief is gonna take time because as we see with president ahmad it's just ingrained in the way these people operate listen to the brazenness of what a bbc investigation revealed quote an investigation by the b._b._c. can reveal that mr ahmad received two sets of expenses claiming to be in two different countries for the same nine day period during the two thousand eighteen world cup i the documents indicate he signed for daily allowances that stated that he was in egypt during this fell before later adding his signature to a document claiming that he was in russia at the same time this of course is the same guy who stood on his pedestal and claimed he wouldn't take a salary ellery saying the salaries of all cath employees from administrators to the executive committee and president all have to be transparent the b._b._c. however revealed that just two months later quietly mr maat agree to receive a monthly salary of forty thousand dollars per a month amounting to some four hundred eighty thousand dollars per year with an annual bonus of eighty thousand dollars <hes> jayjay it's not so much the crimes with these people like no one died here but it's just the arrogance and thinking that during this time when a light is being shined on everything that fee for does these guys still believe that they can get away with doing whatever they want well he has not gotten away with this and we will see what happens next oh president ahmad what are you doing caught caught off sides man of the match what you have corruption it's funny like honestly funny joshua gable got in touch with us and teed meal for this hey andy j._j. big fan of the podcast it was your podcast at helped educate me my early disappointing soccer wanted to bring your attention to coup story about my local club that i would love if you gave a shoutout to on your next episode tallahassee soccer club had its inaugural season in the gulf coast primarily this summer and had a great run a form to get into the playoffs in in its first every year however this created a bit of an issue of playing for playoff tr- excuse me paying for playoff travel which could require them to go to louisiana they created a gofundme me last week to fundraise about four thousand dollars had gotten to just over twenty eighty five hundred that is when t pain lyricist behind hits like bartender and buy you a drank anna tallahassee local donated more than fifteen hundred of his own money to support the club and help pay for their travel costs costs sorry if this is a bit long but think this is a really cool story about local soccer and if you all can get it on the pod or even just post about it on your twitter that would be awesome tepe pain he's got money into bank short does he's going to take you for reframing cam trysofi plane ride to louisiana 'cause you gotta soccer game you gotta soccer game very nice unbelievable right paying jump in in so as he your man of the match yeah t- pan also josh for pointing enough he's aspires fan as well that's awesome by the way wilmore shutout hartford athletic attic they won't to one in their inaugural game at a new renovated dylan stadium they're packing that sellout crowd awesome but we're league football alive and well here in the u._s. just as i like it nanga always been very down not as you like very happy you know you would crush it you are the enemy of the rich man you can't even bother the things that you've done best on this podcast is create this illusion that i'm anti promotion relegation that i'm anti lower league football i hi actually i have to applaud you in this like ants hey ru on why would i be against lower league foot whenever i sent you wanna go catch a game in the lower leagues what have you asked me to do that when when the cosmos marin coney island you go that's the face you'd make <music> so so that now coney island this weekend you wanna know first of all you live in brooklyn right it's ten minutes from your house i live like an hour and a half two hours away from it are you kidding me yet if there's a barbecue after you go to your house you've been in my house twice three times three times and one time you came over just to make fun of the fact that my propane tank ran out of propane we were almost have to call it the whole barbecue but i'm a genius and i keep a spare one in the garage any of the first thing ever how about some praise for that oh my god air propane amanda the barbecues ruined what will these people think man of the match j._j. we didn't mention this earlier <hes> by design because i was gonna mention it now tyler boyd that's right he's rising the ranks of european football he signed with turkish club besiktas for reported two point two million from portuguese club vitoria guimaraes <hes> he was on loan in turkey last season scored six goals in fourteen appearances no champions league football though for besiktas this unfortunately but they are in the group stage of the europa league so he will get a taste of european football which is important and we want to see our american players playing at the highest level cassie that's not a good move for him and you can't say they didn't earn it to really i did yeah brilliant <hes> lawn spell in turkey accident on spending turkey and then followed a with some brilliant international football which was recognized by triple g with demotion for the most important game so there you go that is our pod for this week it's unbelievable so there's nothing happening all the international stuff is ended like preseason is only just begun and yet here we are doing like a seven our podcast doesn't matter we're only doing one podcast this week so let's just give everybody some long listening and get them to the week our thanks to john barnes again that game <hes> liverpool yankee stadium against sporting is july twenty fourth <hes> so a week from now or a week from <hes> through wednesday if you're listening to this day after we record it <hes> so that should be awesome like i said even if you're not a liverpool or sporting fans go there and wear a kit of your team and just like be among a great soccer atmosphere gonna see european champions the reigning champions league champions you're going to get to see them as bringing bight away keep the reviews coming in and i tunes next week we're going to have a five life stars for five years we also giveaway we haven't figured out what how we're going to give it away but we want to say what that is oh yeah we've got a seventeen eighteen pulic dortmund jersey very very nice and we want to give it away in conjunction junction with classic football shirts doc white bear giving away pule chelsea i got to be honest with you we want to remember like the dortmund jersey is not as divisive or as you say divisive now we don't we say divisive you say no we say divisive then we're all on the same page here while no i've i hear people saying well i just find politics to be so divisive these days that's not me all right but my point being chelsea we couldn't give away chelsea jersey only lead to chelsea fans let's be honest there the evil empire still seeing him <hes> because he's now started training with them and he posted a video the scene when jan levinson gets fired from under mifflin hugs hunter and she says don't let them change you that that's me with christian like i wanted to hug him and just say that i was the cats inland cradle in the may this boy in blue human home senate don't know wayne you shouldn't have joined 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Men in Blazers 11/05/19

Men In Blazers

1:13:15 hr | 1 year ago

Men in Blazers 11/05/19

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC sports network it from the embassy row studios in the crap. Putter Soho. It's it's the minute blazers podcast robes. We back might Ladainian. Tomlinson Zogby Steakhouse my God. I love that commercial. She's just as well. There's only own forty seven times in every break in the primarily. David talking about the personally yet. I'm thinking back. We are headed where we're going to England in Rhode coming up we're going up north where the skies closer to the ground for round two of our visit Britain series primarily. We can't wear all we going exactly David once again roads up north where the sky is closer to the ground north of the wall where the wild things are very brave. David Crest Keep Manchester and Liverpool Jabeen the pin tomato. Even though the end to this Manchester level have been into Liverpool to Manchester went on a Cheshire Exchange. When I was eleven and that was you know? Oh what a Cheshire. Exchange that way Cheshire by the way for those of you know there's a Liverpool Merseyside Cheshire is the the fancy can a horse Golfie Golfie Kennedy said the live on the thought of Cheshire. Where I would too we will? Today's learning services we to build houses for the poor in the door to sort of quantum leap where they just send me back in time to the Nineteen Twenty S. I remember literally the first night I remember at your own for the nine hundred hundred jobs. You're on the coach on the way up there with my friends the Elmo go what are we going to have dinner chip buddy a sandwich with French fries and the only on a Friday late them literally arrive that night. Guess what we had dinner. I night covering gravy. Northern Boys Love. I'd like to have been at love to pain in how away near the got. We got off a chip buddy to to white. Northerners southerners imagination were. I'm sure they were knee-deep in the Kale and the juice fast you we're going to know the reputation to live and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have to wheel out the chip but gains sophisticated southern channel. She will thicken on sophisticated. I think is fair humulus. I wouldn't say nine hundred seventy seven Roy. Kale didn't exist yet. I would say I'm trying to remember his name. It might have been Roy. She's name was Roy. It's always one who gets the best side of the exchange like certainly I got the better side when I did. My French Exchange in Leo Leo with John Mark. I got the better half of that exchange because mark came to London was not a great experience him me and Lille for it was excellent with Roy in Cheshire. He definitely when he came to London here. But you like. The cultural schism is so massive that they had cultural exchanges I can. There's some way cultural exchange with someone from another country. That was seen to be coach. Oleg going to Leo was light going just north of the Reverend London going going to livable literally like going to a different century. Turn to that century day. We're going to change. Move to have the smiths. We're GONNA have been delay won't carry mile we're also going to be songs. Make clashes. The Ages Liverpool Manchester City. Go on Kyle while Walker. I've made bold an impossibly tragic decision yet. I'm GonNa take the ferry across the Mersey with Mata Judge Iva. Ah Fairy cross the Mersey. I'm going to have him talk about his love of Liverpool. I don't think even Tony Hibbert or Rafeh Benitez each has to people who are now Liverpool the most of the city half as much as her die for it would it kill it. Kill for Liverpool. Yeah you laugh. When my brother got married he married a Liverpool girl? Becker speech at our wedding which closed in on two hours. Italy lost themselves again with the opening. Line a little girl berry deliver poop boy who more than four hundred and then it just became a love letter to the city and attack on all the haters who tried to destroy over the centuries and he totally lost himself in the speech and they won't recapture with him on that ferry. It's GonNa make a bloody long digital short they. How long is the ferry road? It's I think we're going to go. It's going to be that feeling it's GonNa be the Gandhi of digital short so long that it needs to take it into mission. I'm not sure America Kinda is your ready from at that but my Lord Muhdad is ready for America. David quickly say though talking of Gandhi. Because I don't know how long that movie Ran. But Apogee Jay. I dubs ran the marathon quicker than the movie. Gandhi lost weekend. He turned in like three twenty for anybody who's ever tried to run a marathon. He ran it. Sub Eight Minute Mile Pace pace around twenty six miles. I'm not sure if they run a marathon before this treat your leg treetrunks and also going in dirty slide tackles against everybody running around. I went out. It's a broken out a couple of friends running it. You get to track them on the APP tracking J W block by block attract him from the Star J W was running so fast he literally ran past me and it didn't even seem it was a blur a blurb of J. W. but he turned in an amazing time Raise money for America schools. It was a moving day. Congratulations the thing about it. I'm like the wind. Evens Russ stealing from peddling as if he's doing the pedal on the eastern amazing man the funny thing about Jay dubb's it traveled all over America within the past two months. I had no idea he was running a marathon until a couple of days before I said and then that's it. He's just going to Joe Ground. I'm not really ready. And then he did like seven minute miles about it. The more sickening years as a human being you he really is is beautiful looking. You might be able to run a marathon seven-minute miles back penalty. You could get through twenty minutes of my pilotes master. What can I say? Just build a picture rogers head as he's been doing this now. When Raj gets fitter or goes on a dire his head get skinny? You'd lose you gain weight you you first of all lose weight. Yeah in your head around. Yeah and I noticed because I see you in profile hopefully looks like the only lose weight I between my toes again. I don't see your toes a lot so but I do see your profile and your head's looking skinny blouses. I get stopped stopped on the street for the first time ever today. Took about my head shape changing and someone asked me if I was a new palm. Kerr the star. Bollywood David David Bendon. Light Back and howled gentlemen is a new bunker. I think he's in his late Seventies. Okay he was just calling the show listening to this person in India moment and she said but you get this. All the time get stopped in the industry in people a new poem curve. And I said new obs- she's yeah she's a major mine. I pulled out my phone. He was a guest on men in Blazers on the last show and I showed her and joked and said Ted to nuke Sousa bald Indian manner probably late sixties. Possibly early seventy and I said to new be my son. ha-ha-has the joke and she said that we say the same age as Nukes Wick debuted seventy three philosophies Scientist did you get the changing everything. Okay wrote sadly I'll spinning that does not spare you from aircraft. TV show which returns on a special day. In time Sunday at three PM ofter livable liveable versus city the game. We're actually going to be most surprising of all. It's actually an amazing episode. Is Your interview is Steve. Kerr which is a childhood hero of mine. Steve Kerr and I both moved to Chicago. September nineteen ninety-three me to be a British tourist overstaying his visa signature archer. To be a member of the future dynastic balls at soap. Op Pathways have definitely differed yet to sit down with him and talk about empathy leadership leadership life and death as he is able to make it to me the best thing. I've done this year. Even though he is a huge Liverpool Fan until research at Buryatia. Attention about ways learn from what can club and Mossele. It's amazing to watch. Even though I mean it. They even great American better human being okay. We've I've got a packed show breaking down this weekend. A last minute goals rods livable and sits eight. That was an amazing television experience. I can you start us off with the toast. Oh I candidate Russell. You'd never all I wanNA raise my first third of the day to be woke up. Dave wow a spool which which I believe is going to get bigger and bigger in America. It's a perfect confection for the US. Viewing mentality pace power constant hard hitting spool poor future which I did love the World Cup. I especially love the practice of the Japanese players when they were substituted bowing to the crowd. I hope that catches catches on in the primarily but was incredibly moved off to the final which I will say loss to a fantastic South Africa. tastic same in South Africa rugby was seen as the school of white power and they were capped in this year by their first ever black. Captain See a collegiate grew up in poverty in a township township where he says the only Choi had as a kid was a brick and after the game the game of his life he was about to lift the World Cup that he dreamt. Hove oh visit kid but he took time just before that second to address the turmoil is nation is in back home. He said since I've been alive I've never seen South Africa light ace and he then went onto the most marginal members of society for their support people in the taverns in the shebeens in the forms homeless people. I was amazed beautiful APP. Twitter beautiful human speech. I've ever seen which causes coach to say pressure in south. Africa is not having a job. It's having friends so family murdered. Rugby is not about pressure. Tobao hope hoops not a tweet. It's watching the game. After and feeling good afternoon they matter your religious or political critical differences for eighty minutes. You agree which to me Dave. I WANNA raise my bud fan blood fam- to see Kelly say to me. It's everything that's good about the power spool booth. Rugby should be bigger in America. Raj certainly big in Japan now and should we pick her around the world. When we covered six years ago? We were stunned. How little was getting written about in this world? Cup seems broken through another sport which were holding back. Yep Okay we'll talk about not holding back. Aston Villa Liverpool to your in clubs mob win another staring contest against Premier League defeat. The villains grabbed the lead on twenty one minutes when the chips and everyone had school. I in this one tresor gay a flat home. Joan Mcginn freekick after spending the better part of the next hour watching chances go begging robos. Bullet had up finally leveled things on eighty seven minutes. It's an in the ninety minute of goals who would have ever doubted it. A whipped in. Ta Corner found the Senegalese full head of Saudi-omani who expertly uh-huh guided it into the side-netting wool in the right side of the side-netting livable of not lost in the league. In ten months they stayed six points clear atop the table. Hi came the eighty six minutes was like the best episode of peaky blinders ever. Yes even better than that shootout between the peaky blinders and the Kimba Gang for then. You just went totally passionate twenty first minute. Local switch off a free kick Egyptian tragic yes fourth straight game Liverpool have gone behind an amazing statistic. Moore's amazing level seem panicked with for being arrested and the definitely weaken Alana. They definitely let the forward through us but they still had a chance as bobby for me. The goal notched off by Voday for being a millimeter the width of a neck tattoo. I think they officially said on payoff side running Var on Saturday to my mind loves he loves being God he actually thinks he is my age. That might be the latest proof. That old people should not be anywhere knit technology but for they've Liverpool's passing in the final third. They just seem different escape. It wasn't sharp. It wasn cuffing. It was ill judged place it didn't little I Liverpool. Well it does look a bit like the Liverpool we've seen over the last few weeks livable sort of lack. This incisive threat for long spells of Football Games said about the first KRISTOFF. I didn't like the body language. When not like warriors we would just like players which youthful beautiful framing and credit villa? They didn't go into their shell. They stayed organized they stay disciplined with excellent John McCain Driving Villafuerte they heard Liverpool. They could have made it two nil. Oh to her hand seventy seven minutes KLOPP through on ox and a reggae and I will say I did shut up when those. Two men trotted on so many bad memories of them her in opponents with their shoulders with a nipples with that. I mean those guys can just put the ball and but this game David did feel different. Even when Liverpool went one. Nil Down Spurs. You knew they were gonNA come back and win felt inevitable but in this game little so dead legged they. It looks so devoid of energy in the final felt different. A date begin to fail villa. We'll get a pull off the shock. Did you know we're not for me. It's like the ending of a James Bond movie. What you've got James Bond? Some billionaire and his lead in some sort of bizarre sort of Kim Jong on suit has James Bond tied up and tied up surrounded an all. You're thinking if you want to be on the side of the Villains Raj is just like shoot him in the head right now to shoot him in the head you want to end him and instead he he set a timer for sixty seconds he puts them over the shark infested board. He says in sixty seconds Mr Bond. You'll be fed to the show. Set your cap now now of course not knowing the queue or whatever his name is has given James Bond a special watch where he can set an explosion to hit fifty nine seconds and if these in the center explosion closely won't affect him. It'll only kill everything else around him including Said shark-infested shocks you Dean Smith. Did you show me why I wish they tried to go. Do the Hawaiian social pins down to the little protest the goals. Actually you know laser beams no no testicles no shark-infested waters. Just let just let him have it a say. I felt definitely because as the clock take down. I was desperately resisting. The urge to jump into that shed whatsapp group. That my kids and I have with my brother. Nine is the one that he called Dr. I try not to even think about it enough. I think more and then Jay sent me an email mel of a bunch of jokes which opened the while he was running the marathon. Probably the first year was villas. Win The biggest Dean Smith with since. UNC won the National Championship in ninety-three laughter that one year I laughed harder at this on biggest Dean Smith Win. That didn't involve a Chris Webber Toy. Yeah and then a laugh laugh stuck in my throat. I didn't even really have time to laugh body in between my not law I'm wiping happen next. ESPN ESPN if you listening. Stop Stop Bet because he spam metropole morning Liverpool's first loss of the season headline villas giant. Killing you can score too early and you can post a livable defeat match report too early. ESPN CAM BOB. You can so you basically blaming this week j w yeah desolate bastard. ESPN like busted and Jeb Brother Ninety Audie SPN. I mean I don't mind. ESPN doing the political stuff favorites politics. It's when they post livable match reports. Absolutely that is the line. They should not be crossing my brother's just my brother Kudlow molested on. That won't stop Groupie. Show got love anthea because war followed next axe. After I read basell posted early the ESPN multiple mourning. The loss of the season village on killing what fully next was miraculous. Resurrection Level Miraculous. Matinee swung into knocking cross. Andy robots and five foot ten so he claims totally fine h eighteen hails near you make the lamps. Maybe I love those ads for those shoes. Lift you up. Yeah normal size as when he slips those lips pumas each charge pastas Markelle Ghazi. You'd switched off swooped in for the kill as he'd later tweet scoring his new assist based so good at football Andy Roberson so good at twitter. Say A one one draw. I would've been your own for that would have meant livable. The drop four points in three games with city charging in neck Sunday but villa stand McKinley to describe what happened after I go east Liverpool mentally drain rain the life. I would have a mentally to meet in palm where they don't do it tactically physically but like the Great Barcelona in Spain sides of the early part they stayed they just exhaust the mental energy of their opponents. You know if you've ever read any of these books written by Soka statisticians about hold hold of cow yet trying to win. I'm not POCAR. People who write about about were nonetheless statistics and they try to analyze soccer and brings sense to suck up by talking about up actions in a game in scoring actions in a game and what Liverpool Detroit you so many players who can contribute major scoring actions. Like you've still got Ta always laugh the spoken about it with you. How loudly Everton fans cheery corner? They love a corner every corner. Orna is basically a goal as far as yet they very rarely score from corners in my observation of meteorology. History Duncan. What's his name left? And the Ferguson Awesome. Yeah that one but Livable every time ta steps up to go and put it in there. You feel like they may school from this corner. They've got so many plas- says who can contribute a moment of quality any points in the game. That's why I always say we're GonNa Win Ninety Four. Th Minute Corner Swung Manet for go walk. Oh why ahead running towards the ball and then clipping away from the direction you running from outside the frame of the goal. We've always talked about how that is such a difficult difficult. Had A discussion which means from one side. You're running the opposite direction. The ball swinging in from another direction. And you're clipping it right at an acute angle. That must be so difficult to compute eighteen. Ninety day I need it perfectly perfectly. It was astonishing. A reach out to get him use your shoulder nipple it and what are you doing getting a clean. Lina their own. I mean it was stunning feelings. Where professional football players will delete full or reduced to just kids on a school yard if you look at it just a livable place where you realize? They are playing the game for joy and they ordered madly run around Headley in different directions because all overwhelmed the profound human feeling you can clock called the best possible emotion in football and it was wondrous. They've been an issue and asked them villafane yet. A who is a totally shattering or a man city fat or Southampton Fan. I mean it's an especially if you're watching the man city if you've just watched the man city gay men you finally watch them them. Come back you finally watch them figure out how to go when three points and you feel like they're going to get closer to the table and they done so situationally contextual really. It was the most remarkable. I will comeback incredible for Liverpool off that game in this won't for almost all of the game they wou- full decision making Mo- Saleh having a rough patch. Monday admitted this was the toughest game of the season so far yet in the law state minutes the muscle. Memory that mentality monster muscle memory. Eric kicked in and they were able to summon two goals to me through sheer force of will they go behind and they do not lose. The journalist. Daniel Story noted that Lopez was record since January after conceding. The first goal of the game is won six drawn wall loss. No stunning of the late goals goals against unless the city taught them and now villa when teams of leading going into the final minutes they still fair Liverpool of myth of fear that mentioned the Tennessee. A champions it doesn't matter what minute you score against Liverpool you've scored early is what you're saying it just finishing is utterly you literally can only score at the final whistle against Liberals School for Aston. Villa dropped eleven points from winning positions the season yet villa fans. I've been there. I know how it fails when Liverpool DO A. It's a shattering darkness in which it feels like. There's no justice. There's there's no truth justice for been snatched from your hands and destroy before your very eyes. They have the have the only conclusion you can draw is there is new hope in this world embraced that pay the villa fans. It's very liberating. Gop Red Veil tweeted. We tried for your approach that said of all these morale building performances against big six clubs villa. Currently top of the Premiership Atta boy table. uh-huh and still above average in the whole face a meanwhile roads over Manchester Manchester City to Southampton one another impending pending shock results and dramatic last minute comeback. ESPN BLOG ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. This one started with the saints. Fresh last week's nine nil shellacking home to Leicester taking the lead over the defending champs when James Ward prowse housed on an Edison era in the thirteenth minute but a seventieth minute Sergio Guerrero goal. Wow what a football an eighty six. Th Minute Winner Ready well-taken goal from Carl Walker people rescue victory and keep pets men just six points back nine nil bad bomb mm spanking by Lester. Southampton had to travel to Manchester City team had already blasted forty nine goals this season. We often talk about teams settling for three-point before kick-off chill thing Southampton would have been your hand offer a five nil defeat forty. Fives marked improve. Four no maybe four. We're about four percent better than one hundred percent improvement. Let's just go out and keep it relatively respectable criminally grinds you grow. You never fail to keep us in. Check some thirty minutes. The shocking twist. They came up with this week. David what did they they revealed. He's a droid each human after all day. Bubbling Armstrong slave. Dr James Ward Proud Barrister Sir. James currencies one of your type Dave Smack Dab in the rebound he would be captain of the posh. Aw Inland Eleven Wall Nell to the Porsche and city then toy old Southampton defended deeply they some of the disciplines developed they some of the pride Freud which was astonishing in this. And if there's one ground in the premier league where the fans don't exactly get behind you when you're trailing one nil I gotta tell you it's a bit like Chelsea Chelsea the same way is the one that when you're down when Liverpool down around failed hiking head crowded gonNA help you. I can tell you at Man City and Chelsea you don't get a lot of help from the crowd when you one they'll down didn't exactly whip the crowd into a frenzy. They run US through a show on goal goal until the seventieth minute but when they did they with a thing Kyle Wocka to agree rectify stunningly ninth goal of the season of just ten shots. It's on target. Kindergarten is in the chemistry. But I mean I think he's now just short of being the leading one club goalscorer in the history of the primarily goalscorers goalscorers who've only stayed at one club her entire career Terry on re leads the list and think about how mazing Cherry on rethink about how many great players played in State At one club Lobbe scored that goal is one of the ways. Never GonNa play in another club the primarily. We might not be the privately but an amazing goal what a winner and Southampton came within four minutes of leaving with David which would have been one point the six minute car walker your best walker since Texas Ranger I can roundhouse kick you into yesterday slid finish dashingly whereas has left for charged away with joy. How happy where you for? Kyle Davis. Because he's had a rough twelve months has is that a rough twelve months dropped from the England side. Lots of bad things happen to had city not play assigned to challenge him Pask into play more in the center of the failed down the flank and outed himself Tash tag team bold. So this goal it must have fun credibly ably redemptive for yeah. I had a feeling that what he was going into hit it. He was in imagining going in for a rudy late. Tackle 'cause it was that sort of a Finnish from Kabul he sort of talk in great shape that ball. I hit the way that he usually hits opposing wingers. It was an amazing finish the call. I didn't know you could hit a ball that hard ankle or or knee or foot but not a not a football one big question about a walker. They seriously I mean we know. Pat Likes to confuse his opponents. By having his players be bold will all match and then fully miraculously had the next house come walking been forced to have a hair transplant helped him go. You know expert in Detroit trotting ends the next level. We're flowing locks. Ginger flowing locks transplant seeded with the produce of KGB's armpit growth. You thinking that will make him do that. Yeah until I keep those teams off balance about formations possible pep. Does look increasingly. UNHINGED on the sideline. I could imagine pet giving any kind of advice to call into my window window. WORRIED ABOUT PEP with Steve. Kerr we talked to Steve Kerr about different kinds of football coaches that this club or does out charisma. And and then this pet repressed keeping it all in. And we'll talk to Steve Kerr about how he wishes he was caught. But he's really a PAP and I've always believed that. Papin clock whereas polar polar opposites but in this game the theatrics the repressed PEPs. Gob these to be so cool. It's this is money professor pep just absolutely so animated and that's what this type races done to him. They were six points back Liverpool heading to unfilled on Sunday. I will be there. I'll be wearing my everton. The pence I will say and mind games really smell at this point. That's why it means I ed in the wall I got sewn into the only three weeks ago made that relatively fresh the game was nil. No Anfield law season do city. They have to win this one day event. I mean it really depends how you view what Liverpool doing. I think there are two ways of doing it. One way of viewing is this. Is what champions do they're winning these close games and therefore it is inevitable they will continue to engage exactly like this the rest of the season the other way to look at it is to say you know what Liverpool riding their luck a little bit. This won't continue to happen. Unlivable going to have to stop playing better football in order to overcome. I don't think city have to win it but I I think they've got to compete with them. I think actually drool is to me the most likely result and I think that would be a pretty good result both to so much football to come. I will say when Liverpool were one mil down this weekend and the clock was ticking and city went ahead and they would just three points behind Liverpool Liverpool coming in the next game aiming commentator was like this unfilled game is going to be Krakow. We'll say for just one minute. The whole felt so very different. Let's not discount out my beloved Chelsea from the title Rice. What would want Chelsea to Franklin pods day cassette drool those babies Raj? They win their Fifth League game on the spin. They started the scoring in the fifth. Minute when a heat-seeking Georgina Bull White Pass found a streaking. Not Literally Abram who scored his ninth of the season Christian Police Ethic America downloading. Young said. We've got live on today's show. Oh Krisztian police Christ. In yes phony. And from Stanford is he doing instead of Stamford Bridge. Sorry Bridge now. He doubled the lead in the fifty fifth. Minute we'll talk more about that goal latching onto across from the aforementioned Abraham the orange pulled back through a var in Juice D. penalty then in the dying embers with co for searching for an equaliser. What would keep a Ben Foster made his way forward and Senna diving head towards the bottom corner only to have kappa claudio great save and preserve the points Chelsea stay two points off city Chelsea Football Club Aka the premier league suite life of Zack? And Cody may radio. Love that show Chelsea everything at Stamford Bridge is just full on Tipton hotel for them. Right and sesame street that opening goal that ball from Georgina finish from Tammy I mean Chelsea fans watching the whole move could've made them instantly pregnant couldn't they they've. I'm no medical doctor but I'm pretty sure Irish. I'm not sure I remember a player going in in just one season going from being a fan sort of a villain of the fans being fanfare in the way. That Joe Gino Gotcha. Thanks a not a player who barely performed though. Betty played with Jiang toasts. And we're looking at a player who played. We can week out. We got to see him a lot last season and pretty much. Everybody agreed. Not that good. And this season the new jewel genial Georgina reborn to be King of the babies by Frank Lampard his spectacular. He plays so well. We can week out and he does the little stuff. Well he does the unglamorous stuff so well this past. Though it was fabric gase Roach. It was a fabric. Gase pass into the path of timing Abrahams swerved around a defender time like the golden snitch first time yeah to is to transcend transcend time and space for. It was astonishing. I'm not even sure he looked up. I had to watch it again to see if he meant it. I thought he might have been trying to do something else entirely trying to pass it back with drinks. The office of love pass by the way American young American play is listening to this podcast. Just go out and practice parsing into space that was so big on the Nutmeg snow and yeah how about that kind of ball into space walk. The game needs. I also love the finished away. Tammy used his eating right. Joe Keeping the ball. Hey thanks buddy. The commentator said Oh if simple finish initiative to me it was far from it. It was brilliant but overall Dave I couldn't agree with you more to hit Chelsea fans sing so delirious that they chant Georgina all the way through the game and to see that man assert himself as a leader. Yeah it's to me the ultimate test a major Franklin Poets Chelsea. I JUST WANNA amazing. Well we live in. And the only other plant can think of redeemed himself. Season to season is applicable Kovic. Yeah to some extent conference. He's playing very very well. This season assume jerry absolutely. Sorry what are you doing. And then now apple lay. The common denominator is that we're looking at. Oh maybe as Meridia Sarah. Maybe maybe just the Christian Pulisic aftershave is derived in that locker room sprinkling holy water fled skip the opponents their full name in this winless Wofford. Yeah they would gain nine they lately were again. Say Ben Foster Magnificent Yeah uncorking wall claw save after save seems to have been especially motivated by spite that desire to sniff out with them a young American God head because every the Tom Lord and Savior see Pulisic just show Ongo Ben Foster just stepped up to go above and beyond but the longer that game went on the more Chelsea midfielder took a stranglehold on the fifty fifth minute. David it was her she kissed time. Yeah and it was a lovely move ends up releasing Abraham Donovan an Iot. She loved seeing this. Tammy Abraham striker puts the assistant to the guy who's assisting everybody else and sets top Christian Pulisic but it wasn't like put on a plate for him. This was all that if any of you have ever played centerfold wherever played centreback trying to defend centerfolds. This was a quality wallets center. Full would like not wing finish running to the near post getting around his man finishing it so sweetly I was very impressed with this goal. I thought it was better in any of the goals e school. Maybe bothe- had his rhetoric. It's nice to be able to talk about which of the collection. Which of the holistic do we like the best? I love the road I love to me. That is what sends giving goal. Full the run if he played for Everton widely Kim to I'm Kristie and it goes but just doing vaguely what they call Arsenal doing bits. Bits will not fail due to bits. It's what what set him apart from other American players to win this space is ability to mind crevices of space in the area hair. He made a run in front of his Marker Walker and then across him losing him outside in finding the ball from the cross the remit who could have had two more goals in this one for the majestic foster for the people and he just seems like a different human being watching his whole countenance on the field. If you remember the Keribar player Pulisic solicit that we so about a month ago. He's now oozing with confidence. He feels he belongs and we talked about how far down the Chart Kristian was even like a month ago. uh-huh now even when Golo can take comes back this week copy Mason Mount or William News GonNa get jettisoned. Well he's not GonNa Change his formation and it's only Hudson Doyle. Petro who's going to threaten Christian bliss positions. He's not gonNA stop playing that full three three so I don't think it matters what happens with Conti. or even Ruben loved cheek when he comes back I think he's seeing off him. And Willie Anna the presume starters right now Hudson is going to have to politic and come in and do something very very well during a Champions League game or when he comes on as a substitute to to unseat him I think he's in a very very good position right now. Police say left the failed after eighty two minutes. I mean scored. The decisive associative go found the back of the net. Four Times in the last two games you could've had there's a say a couple more in this one but it was enough for Chelsea fans travelling travelling Chelsea fans the serenade him a chance of USA USA USA which is only slightly hyperbolic for me to say they in this crazy tumultuous molpus World Christian Pulisic is probably amongst America's greatest instruments of soft power right now and I'm genuinely the light for him when they won't really lay John David crazy decision on Taylor failure in the box. I mean his with thing is yeah I think it was crazy. Var Decision. Don't think claiming obvious about it but but in a in a weekend of so many crazy decisions. I'm not sure even if it ranked top three. It's like that so bizarre. What's going on is becoming is is becoming almost a random effect? It's kind of like it's kind of like that old game. Show Press Your Luck and you've got to figure out the sequence of our about went to press the button in order to make it make some kind of sad. I am genuinely waiting for buzzfeed or somebody to find out that Vladimir Putin is Hudson hand in the creation of as a way to just for men this Gordon d destabilize run by tech talk genuine having that making your brain at this point yeah lately ups and I do imagine we say it's might dean in I I think might dean. Maybe getting from the Kremlin F- with them. Let's say it's at penalty this time. Then we're going to take a random the button and there is no better way. This brexit can push England to the teetering edge but I will say var will just implode the nation Var vare is basically. It's the robots take. It's basically being run by if it is Putin in his genius Genius Move To. Oh God that I love a goalkeeper. On Canadian sat there are love is like a pitcher home run. It's it's like a pitcher inside the park run because it's not rare the the goalkeeper running out of key kid and a fantastic fantastic Perry I think. Jd sent me a status. Staten Says Ben Foster is now had more shots on target than Jesse Lingo this season which made it even more hilarious but despite logo at the end Chelsea terrific seventh straight away win or comes Chelsea record they keep cruising in four just two points by Manchester City. Six point in cushion opened up now between them and fifth place. It is a fairytale story of dreams. David one thing we don't say enough is the CAP is name is basically the keeper which is still makes me laugh every time I see him on the on the team shape secondly I thought Chelsea Lawson mid week in the care about cop to Manchester United a lot of people this at all this where it's GonNa stop on winding and falling apart of united. I think what Frank Lampard did very smartly rotated the squad in Midweek got out she pretty good performance. Let's even though they lost to united very well United Plato. Their starters played a very different team he blooded more babies even more babyish. Babies played against the United. ABC China's create. Small squad. Competition binds them all together a little bit more and what a job doing. How Fun to watch a little chat out for me because as I love watching zoom play every week? I don't think they're gonNA stop Jason Scoring but they're so fun to watch playing building this partnership few centreback parents more. Oh entertaining than Zuma into more in football right now might may ask you disagree on one wolves. One was an asshole team determined coming to quell the acrimonious. At the emerets took the lead on twenty minutes via Pierre Emmerick Obama Yang a very weird target of fans live by the way but all three series of switch switch off. They were punished by CONCACAF zone. Ringing our row Jimenez who dunked on Calum Chambers forty minutes time to level the score also remain in fifth place research. That's good despite taking two points in the last week. I don't know where to begin here. Astle football club who threw away three Wal and Forte and five five four leads to Liverpool in the Capital Cup defeat mid we and this point. LS A football club every week. They are more a reality. TV show it's if like the whole she just said let's stop trying to win trophies unless become a content machine image. You just flood the zone with storylines because when you look at what they've always when when you look back at the next level because you look back at this it can't be too long before awesome. Sign Jake and Logan Paul. Just for the click. I mean case humidity this week in real housewives celebrity eleven and it will begin at the top. Stan Kroenke was in London last week to watch the rams but it didn't stick around talk all the furniture storyline. His story line is he's not quite sure even owns the team. The only time we'll actually no. He knows he owns team is when he tries to relocate them to Los Angeles emory. The road caught in the whole operation according into all insider report and object Mirth in the locker room for his accent. Good evening and this is how overwhelmed by the toxic fan culture that took out jacker who signed the the Tereza or the knee league so both it was reportedly still rocks after being booed off against Crystal Palace. EMORY JACKA. Dave I I am white. Didn't make the squad for this one. We need time to recover the no malady in him and for us to recover. I say recovering. Let's the also. Let's be honest. David recovering the no melody. That could take years. So in this won't emory kind of needed to restore the by delivering offals first victory and four games. uh-huh whom did he turned to his Arab. Need Dave is PR nemesis his enemy. Mazza Ozo- yeah em to the just played seventy one minutes primarily football total this season. Did he just play him. said a waiver happen. It will be axles fault David or maybe most of the bills fall another little bit. Jackets embroiled life to really get into some forward propulsion. That they've missed and also did seem at the beginning of Ti- memorial lack fed over in the area sidefooted. The Ball Home Fiftieth Fiftieth Arsenal goal. In just seventy games stealth monster stats overshadowed by all the Tom Foolery that we've just be asked about. On this day briefly the felt like a relief. We're not born in Liverpool would go more nil down city wall nil down somehow. The sound of happy awesome funds cheering the Emirates Mazza getting a standing ovation as job David. To take a corner. It just felt even more surprising than the above the yeah but I refer to my earlier comments hence this is James Bond Movies Rajiv to shoot your opposing teams in the head and the primarily because they will come back the wolves will come back. The wolves will also everyone comes back because emory's also have no until lead they can't fritter away again. Daniel Story Star. He tweeted astle muscle of failed to win. Despite holding a two goal lead in three of that loss eleven matches we and he even before that listen to that. That's what's that they've done it twice in three hundred seventy matches and here's the reason Y it's exhausting for also because they're playing walls. I home and they decided to just seat possession and the way emory make substitutes defend in this for attack is when a goals needed they whatever he does just seems to make the teams play worse they were our shot at home and they surrendered the lead. They gave the lead away. A super BIOS didn't try. I mean it was a league tracking to give walls and equalizer. Ah and they will left the game with wolves just taunting their counterparts by singing. Jack is right you fans and then poor little child Arsenal fans turning to that dad saying we're even wolves they don't even know where it is. I don't know what take that. Don't understand. Any of it wrote emory left floundering. It was a bad result but tactically. It worked how we wanted. And the stunning sham. That was that was. What a statement statement? What a statement to wind up a fan base by saying he was happy with essentially tactically? How it went as manager on the bring season and emory is is to bring Kia manages all greg? That's the one of all these if I wonder if the brig can bring data. That's where you'd find every Sunday with his birthday and the clip y happy birthday by instagram. I'll just say the thousands of messages underneath tell her own story story of the cultivars love football clever manager who's burned through his relationship with the fan base. The only message economically repeal on this family show is Happy Birthday Basque DRACULA DRACULA VENGA IN I remember that episode of blackadder. We're blackout He added the the classic line. English comedy Ron Atkinson starred in it a blackout out of the line boulder who is his trusted companion. We're in the stickiest situations in sticky. The stick insect got stuck on the world's sticky bomb. That's where the Bricusse Dunai emory is. Right now oh yeah. And I'll say the oldest thing is you've also funds Gnat who I know are actually happy about the team's failure because it would mean emory out and yes. I can't believe this us all a rumor mill saying and I really can't believe this marina and snow very old teams from to Goto. Do you remember all my would just be. That would be merited. Then I just give up. There's no point in US doing this. We might as well be covering world wrestling entertainment. It's all old Jim. The movement. It's the privy league jumped the shark. It's football is jumped thrive more shocking to me the marine the only I can think think about it if someone like Hitler boy back to life and made him the prime minister of England batting even more likely take place tonight By Marina to ourselves to me is bad ryan more than anything. Isn't it but it would be amazingly entertaining. It's ridiculous Ruben. Turn right at the end of game. I mean Stan Kroenke just live cab on us. And the first time he reads the information who stunning sporadically. The Ad Stan Kroenke. And now you're listening to this number one stab you own Arsenal football club news. Today call bring they play Association Association. Football number two staff. Watch season of game of thrones now unrealized marina to arsenal can only am one way with the kingdom intend to ashes and even astle fancy vaber them former one manchester too many storylines too many stories. Unexploded Bouma one Manchester United Milk. They want another bad trip. On the electric acid test as United Fault Alta Cherries roads and it was one of Oh gee ss own. Countrymen didn't dirty Norwegian former united trainee. Josh King doesn't have a Norwegian named Trustees Norwegian is well to go away. Do you think men in Blazers. No as we love Norwegian foreign sounding name they. NFL players where foreign continental names Georgia hang does not sound Norwegian. He took his goal. Oh well on the stroke of half-time and that was the difference. And thus united's three game winning streak in all competitions back back. It's all good swept away from the windy. The SAF Coast Manchester by the sea returns. GRA is you know. It's mini revival is just stopped dead in its tracks the past seven days. They'd WANNA partisan Belgrad they'd want rich. They'd run Accountable Cup Chelsea and now we we just returned to the story line their worst though after eleven games in thirty three years in the driving rain in the mud slipping around united you seem bogged down. They were ponderous. Honestly hard to believe it was the same united that just dropped Norwich and Chelsea by playing pace moving the ball at speed and they were just fractious they were fragmented. Josh King wielded the tag a junior you should as a sixteen year old never made out the reserves toss the ball areas own in had bamboozled one Saka and then thrashed at home and challenge. That they'd love Lindell awfulness play because when BASSAC ago all the twitter. Hey but if you watch lindelof. While Josh King was tossing the ball of his head illness looked like lindelof. was proactively running back to reset for the kickoff. Even before the ball had gone anywhere go navy and when this you not go behind a terrifying part reality is a rebound until now you've done you. They don't look as though they're gonNA rebound for a second and even worse for their fans six times. They've conceded first and only six times. They've lost in this one. Bombers poten center has Nathan and Steve Coke Hewitt Twenty. Eight years of age is being talked about as a possible England coal at God love their up to six. Now let's call them all they all war cherries. I Love the War Cherries. Dave and I love the how I really think about. How is he believes his ethos? Is everyone every individuals that constantly improve. The club needs to comes in and people play as if if you don't walk constantly improve you or kicked out borth. And he believes constant improvement begins at himself six seasons in the top flight. Now that defense. That was just like a joke. It was always Boris defend. He's works out to tighten that defense offense and they were never flustered in this one but united what you see when you watch in David's. It's astonishing did you. Just see something that doesn't make sense is like looking at an equation that you just can't figure out and you understand all the numbers and all the symbols in it. You just can't figure out how the some is what it is. It's just it makes. No Sense. Lost Four primarily gains from eleven this season scoring thirteen goals all season. Seven of those. You're in blowouts again too. Little eighteen coach Chelsea another Norwich all at while a play they discarded as I didn't replace big Romilly banging goals for into Milan. The most damaging reality is mentioned also runs this season. That may you know he'd found starting to feel like just in villain there in the world series and every single game crystal palace no less than two bridges. Fox's when the third in a row behind second half goals from schedule took delight Shalah shoe his first for the club and Janey binding who proceeded to celebrate his rather phenomenal goal in the most Jamie volley fashion ever by by flapping his arms like a bird sensibly mocking Kayla. The Eagle Lester in third on twenty three points as one more point than they had at this stage when they won the title. You don't Mall Kayla. Legal Raj get to Var the sallies in a moment but this one an epic clash between Roy Hodgson and Brendan Rodgers. My two favorite livable manages overhaul time one by co first goal from Turkish hero. Harry Maguire Replacement Shuman Shave. It was left completely open more by nobody off a quarter joke then stupid to kill unless seth away phenomenal team goal. Tillman's found gray. Oh you dummied. Combined passes revolve the Mesmer. The goal of the team is so well drilled inventive just propelled by a shed understanding of their lethal-strength lethal-strength and their opponent's weaknesses. Forty Day so impressive. I mean minutes before this being cleaned out by savage tackler with Rome Moshe doc plays off the game. He didn't just always revenge a league leading goal of the season and that mocking Kayla Legal Sally. That was super necessary. Sometimes I think the only likes school goal so he can rub opposing funds faces in it if he was foreign event. Wouldn't we revere Jamie Valenti not but because he's English and overtly English but like Red Bull and vodka working class Seen this Lesser Vardi slightly foreign sounding name though I would say valley diesel. Must French COUPLA notes on volley one I really do think the Crystal Palace at the point that he Kayla legal should have released the Eagle to attack him. I think that would have been just famously entertaining thing. Legally they were in their right yet. Probably I remember watching Jamie body play last season under different management and he just looked lucky. Lost a step I know he's been playing different formation. He seemed to sort of didn't seem so happy. Wasn't scoring with regularity. That is this season but I remember actually thinking to myself health. I think he's gone off the ball. Say he was so good and now he's not he's come back this year. Even stronger must be brought. His team talks but he seems a player Klay at completely and utterly reborn I think two things number one bridge as going because broach does left to about how bridge improves play. Said after that game I am proved it's underway with me. You know what the Hell does I do. It like times a thousand yards. What he said was I have freed holiday? They from all of the pressing used to now just trying to impress bone play but mostly always now try and play off his shoulder the last defender and then you think about broad ginny think about the and they must mind meld because for them only care about one thing which is the psychos may the greatest level is. Okay I bet you. That is both of their favor. Do yourself in the mirror. And Sing Whitney Houston's greatest love to Jamie to portray of yourself the living room some positives on the week for Roy Hodgson reports. He's in talks crystal policy. Renew Dale that would take him to the age of seventy three which was actually ten years ago Brendan Roaches. I hope one this one pump. The air the final whistle. I did this his last ASTA. One of the most complete science and the Six points clear in third place and also who they will host without fair. Where Route Fair right they? Next Saturday today West Ham to Newcastle three. The tune school more than one goal in a game for the first time this season jumping out to three nil lead that included a former love interest. Trust of John Joe shelving freekick from thirty five yards they were able to hold off a second-half Irons Comeback Newcastle up to Fifteenth West Ham in thirteenth. But they haven't won since some some victory over united inset night. God this was a New York jets of a loss wasn't it wasn't it for West Ham losing to a team that arguably ably sat down to lose. They are the Miami Dolphins of the English primarily. This is humiliating at home. I mean they even more humilating was a western look so good in September we were. We were lionising them. Only time inconsistency that seems baked into their DNA. Return this losses. Also just got bookies upping the odds the anthropomorphic cigarette. Manuel Pellegrini may soon be gone and in the season manages in crisis somehow somehow easily Tivo Balking Silva Jeevan emory essentially everyone ballclub super. Frank Papin Chris Welder as having one for out that they will end satiny. It wasn't even a riot at the London Stadium Roads. Nobody seemed to cast Brighton to Norwich. Nil B. H. A.. Move into eight behind goals from Jank rid Leandro Andro true Saad and the best thing out of derry since Aaron Quinn Shane Duffy. The Gulls are one of the low key storylines of the season Roach. Yeah I mean Brian and the Grain Pasta. Aw the failed. Good story the season that no one's talking about because we're too busy talking about the real housewives of all so far there. In a pinscher dog injury stricken canary stuttered a week. This is the first time. Beautiful Beautiful Nobel laureate city failed to score in six straight away games since May not ninety three massive relegation six point as Fano rich in the next four games the plane what Everton and Southampton by should get some joy out of those things one in particular. Sheffield United Three Burnley nil emphatic blades. Win over the planets at Bramall Lane a double from Everton Everton Academy product. Jon Lindstrom an you let him go and a third from John Fleck moved blades into sixth place. Roads had lost in four games calls but Chris Wallace this must be pop. And loggers. post-game May so many locus six play. Sheffield shepherd united sick. Even my son George who's followed the primarily for two the seasons is like it's pretty remarkable sheffield united or in sixth place. Having just come up this year as George Karl Percent Blades Tattoo yet. We'll get him on me. uh-huh we'll say his forehead could no I mean the amazing thing about it new scrappy miracle and the blades play implantable organized control for I aspire to the lapping centreback. US Fan. I aspire to it. This fifth clean sheet at the season leaked the jointly unleash goals all season and the goals they score movement pace intelligent passing the vision of lease Moussay after scoring back to back. Games have three assists in this one and the finishes by Jon Lindstrom just collective football a wonder all hail local boyden good. Chris Welder manager of the year so far often the Evanston one Tottenham won a game so honestly relatively around darkness and not just for you. Roger a Hurricane Luis Spurs took deleted sixty three minutes through delis finished but fifteen minutes later an absolutely horrific moment when sons technical foul Andre Gomez sent the Portuguese into such orientation which left his ankle. sickeningly invisibly out of place and broken son who was so distraught. sent-off how to figure and in the ninety eighty seven. Th Minute Everson found an equaliser through Tosa who wealth. ABSO- who else is a lot to break down Allan this game Docket in the law. So this is not the Tracy Chapman fast CODA obey before the game and didn't fail myself self fell only and only so excited to Jefferson so my weekend ruin burt felony dread before this. I mean to me. Both teams are so so alike in terms of just the dreams. The shattered aspirations Everton ended up having lost five of the last six spurt on one on the road since January. And you're a unless you felt that she an ex essential grant light both teams. You're about to step into the ring and fight with themselves because so from the same cloth of self losing and fated Doom I who Golombo six tweeted of quake watching this game to the end of old yeller with both teams being the dog doc and Spurs they were poor Harry K now if a virus sean of History Everton they tried those passion hustle. Though all of that fell upon the final third spurs. They were told me it just seemed like a critical way lack of belief or a lack of caring. I don't we know which it is. David you ever thought to look. This game was however badge. You thought it was going to be going into it. And even before we get to that you know horrendous Indus instant towards the end of the match I'm not talking about the Var instarem which was also horrendous but the you know the tackle on Gomez this was really hard game to watch. It almost made you not like football. It was both teams so ill-tempered boasts team. So unsinkable. Both teams for me lacking passion. I think it's more remarkable from taught them. Even though Everton were playing at home because Tottenham we've remember the spurs team and how they play football and how they've played football on the Tino the pressing the organization Asian those quick passes I remember watching them play Chelsea a few times over the last few seasons live and being blown away by the speed of movement by their incredible. Will I touch. They'd like played them off the park again and again and again and now it's just so slow it's so laborious they don't like a team if decided that I- insipid Ed Champions League loss will just let's just that the achievement of all lifetime. It's just GONNA tap out the tokens at the first off. Which is psychiatry refereeing decisions by Moin Atkinson which even even more so in that second half and in that second? Half I I took the lead would be reckless in possession. In a dangerous area Deli played played in the second time this season David exe going to go to be fair to say it was his best possible the night it delivered I play. Who's played welfare? Everton John Roach. It was a shame when he saw his pulo faces. As Delhi celebrated rivers sleep on the floor. Sadden up Sally. Just won't we'll be punished show with had made it even more serious site for Spurs fans. The exhaust play lead into the goal. They throw at taken the point for for them and the poor play standing stone issue just a moment of realization. You can take the boy. Oslo David B.. Can't take the snow out with the boy. Credit credit tally. It was a good finish. He had quite a lot to do once he got the ball and cut inside unleashed a very very good shot past twenty two Jordan Pickford and then it became. He's worn terrible vile decision after another. Ns One Davis Spurs penalty not given an advertisement penalty bewilderingly not given fill the alley handball. I don't know if we need to break them. Down by just say when two teams are bleeding confidence var only reinforces just the ship a Wildman and the spectacle. I mean there are two things going on with all on without getting too much into specifics. Because this is saying that I'd rather talk about like the launch of our issues the knee individual virus shoes but one thing that's really not halt explain is how long it's taking to make these two songs like away from the office and the second thing is that despite the fact that these decisions I'll take you a long time that they've stopped thought the game in order to do it. We at home the fans in the stadium the players on the pitch the managers get no explanation whatsoever as to what's going on very very unlike rugby. Union Raj where you get a very clear explanation from the refugee hit the conversation between breath version Avar. Because they're all Mike's up and you hear both sides of that compensation and you have no idea what's going just love to hear befuddling human discretion in the application of this technology. We'll San John Newton this one the feeling fan experiences when a Var check decides no penalty against their team. It's a completely new one in football. It's a joy it's a sickening relief of a bulldog shove no experience that feeling in football look like and it should have been to me. They gave away a penalty take forever and then they say no penalty. It's not a joy you fail. You just feel like incredible relief of a bullet though and then the complete opposite when you think you all going to get a penalty and you've got that tension you got that it's like it's like producing million that you put the tension bet in you sort of ut's the reveal of the answer and ends up being home. No penalty full nations that led to Everton fans spending pretty much a majority of the second half chanting Vaa which is Sam Walton football. The game was not done just when I thought it was as dark as it possibly could be. Devolved into new levels of dog ness tactical foul by Sun. Can we call it. Yeah I think you can call it a tactical. We don't know exactly what the place was thinking. You know not by any by any observation. By any account a dirty play it does primarily plachy sort of quite a lovely man son fouls Gomez disease as. He's running away skipping away down. The left sideline matic take contact from oriented to think that there was there was some. He felt badly on the ground. Then he goes. And then there's added contact for Maury fellow could late ended up landing believably believably off balance a frightening pace unable to break his fall out leg backwards in a way. That was Joe Theismann Kevin Ware Level Sickening thickening to say song to me is a fantastic human being and the second the realized the chain reaction of his tackle it broke down on the failed solving wing inconsolable. The incident clearly going to hold him some adverts and fencing this been too much reporting on how much it's upset Sahlin he's always become victim and and Gomez been written. I would've but I found this reaction to be beautifully. Human admits that don't necessarily of the day even as the referee reacted to the injury by upgrading. The original yellow to a red. Yeah which was very confusing decision. It's since been revoked yet. Also say Gomez is a noble human being. He he underwent ankle surgery yesterday by over reports. Successful is it. Jen always seem to understand very quickly and appreciate everything. It's special by Everton football club and I just wish him. I wish him courage. I wish him strength and I look forward to having back on the failed as soon as humanly possible. These kind of injuries David graphically horrific injury they can destroy a team. I mean it cannot stuffing right our a club in the long tail off SNL fans you remember two thousand and eight at why the silver yeah also five points clear at the top of the Premier League and suffered eight strike tell. His manic strike that season a horrific fracture against boom and the players fell upon the failed after witnessing the injury they never recovered the fool lead riot with the. Yeah I mean look On I think to some extent I think this could have happened to Everton too. And I think the sending off of song which gave him the numerical advantage actually and the anger of the crowd ouled not just because of that but through decisions throughout the match I think it led Everton to actually suddenly shows him inspiration and says and patch. The view is that you know shouldn't shouldn't they be showing that passion and inspiration throughout the entire match when they're playing at home in front of the fans in any way I acted take a symbol of pride to be honest that they did someone among the ability that tenacity to force their way back into the game I mean Jank toasted in particular is late late show a fine header. Six minutes fifty seven seconds. I was so happy for an unlikely Hero. A guy who just seem to disappear off the depth chart you've been trying to train away all season on the never never net the motto trump's worthless on that day to see joy and passion upon scoring. It was it was oddly healing. And that's how I ended. A shattering emotional ninety minutes hundred and to really genuine dark experience. Two teams bleeding confidence watching clubs one of whom I love deeply the other. I admire greatly. It reminded me of tomes guns feelings for shift. They varian succession when he asked this question. I wonder if the Sata be without you. A would be less than the sad I get from being. That was the feeling of this game. Okay we can looks like this. Roger Starts Friday at three PM in Walford take on Norwich then at seven thirty am. Saturday is my main squeeze taking on my side partner. This Chelsea travel to palace on Sunday. It's one versus two plot hulce's PEP reds versus Blues Lose Liverpool Versus Man City at eleven thirty am eastern time on NBC. I sent. Let's are prophetic of Yankee. Meister Raj and see what the future hoed feels better. We can mice today. Initiate Meister is trying to thoughtfully manage my expectations Liverpool. Running away with the League is a human dog this. This exquisite show of human emotion is telling me that after the days of Managerial Mind Games this game that we will be at em- person it's going to be a true. I'll be staying with my Everton Pinot multiple. It's going to warm late Liverpool goals. Got Them to the end of days. 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English Premier League Podcast  (w/Rahul Kohli!)

If I Were You

56:14 min | 1 year ago

English Premier League Podcast (w/Rahul Kohli!)

"This is a head gum podcast. All right. Kind of a new episode today. This is this is not just an if I were you. This is big. This is the beginning of a new podcast miniseries potentially called a sub caste baby maxi series how into this. We're gonna get mad. This might be the main cast it'll be a new show that run parallel alongside if I were you write this first episode is going to be released right here just on natural. If I were you feed ain't feet, and then after that, we're gonna head to patriot dot com slash J A and the rest of the episodes will be there. Correct. The show is of course, menu diving headfirst into the magical world of English Premier League football football. Not soccer soccer. You'll never hear his call. Docker on that buck and podcast. Actually, we accidents. They call it soccer a lot all the time. It's hard. We've been brainwashed. Thirty plus years of living in America in advance. What we're trying we're trying to learn we're talking to our friends. We're talking to other fans we want to become English Premier League fans. We love football from the World Cup. And we want to try to dive headfirst into club soccer. And this is our attempt to do. So. And we've I've talked about this on the show before how we wanted to get into football. We do. And I I really like I had never heard from so many people so many folks lit into my DM's. Yeah. I want you to know that I heard you, and that I read the messages, and that I told him you're that we should definitely do it in here. We are. So thank you. For your passion to our first out. Our first guest this pilot show is Rahul coli super funny. Huge Liverpool fan he's going to be answering a bunch of questions we have about the EP L and about his. Favorite team? He's going to try to sell us on Liverpool. That's right. But it doesn't stop there. We're going to talk to as many people as possible trying to get as many pins as possible as to who we should root for for instance, if you finish this episode with Raul and you like it enough to check out the second episode who did with which we did with Chris Smith. That's in our patriots feed right now your two of these podcasts out now. That's right. So I up here and first and second episode on patriot dot com slash Jay. He's more of a Chelsea fan. Wanna know everyone makes a good point. We want you guys to chime in as well. Let us know who you think we should root for leave a comment. Leave a comment tweeted us slide into our DM's we are for sale right now. That's right. And if you are interested in this podcast, and that makes you go to our patriot. Then good news. You get all of the other ship. That's already on the patriot. Yeah, we're not creating a new tier just for this show. Yeah. We want very -tarian for the four ninety nine year. Getting the bonus. If I were you you're. Jake and Amir watched videos, including the back catalog that you might have missed out on. And then starting today, new episodes of this show, check it out. Let us know what you think slide into every DM possible. Leave a comment in the patriot. And we hope you enjoy the soccer podcast. Let's get started later. All right. Welcome to this currently unnamed podcast idea right now. Yeah. This is started very haphazardly. Yeah. This was an idea that we sort of wanted to get serious about ninety minutes ago. Tweeted about football slash soccer said does anybody here? Knowing fans in comedy of football, a lady whose name I should probably pull up right now suggested rule. I'm like, yes. He is a fan of football slash soccer texted. You thought you were going to say he is funny. Oh with soccer is anybody can be funny. But you're funny and a football slash I feel we should just decide right now. Soccer football. I feel football saying Salko all I'm saying, I will call it feels wrong doesn't it? I I think I actually I like football. Okay. Says good I get to forget the name of whole entire sport. Is that because with it's easy for you to with football. Being the fact that we saw kit for ninety minutes. Yeah. That's cool. Kick it for ninety kick. It could be the all right. We're gonna talk about names of the show, but kick it's a great one. We'll put the stuff later, but the lady is Kathleen, Kathleen, awesome is the one who suggested rule two hours later. We're talking to you about football. She ruined my brunch plans. The idea was Jacob are sports fans in general. We love soccer World Cup. Soccer football, folks. Dude, do feel bad foot. Our people our own subscribing podcast. So we're like, let's let's document this journey where we decide which EPL EPL. Did you did I breathe the English Premier League the English Premier League which squad club team club club which clubs go soccer? Let's go squad. Gold squad goal. Okay. Which Premier League team club squad. We end up rooting for our fandom is for sale right now. We wanna become fans. Are you want me to pitch my mic club pitch, which is another ton? Because that's the name of the soccer field, aka the football short. Yeah. Wow. We're learning a little bit. And then in in so doing we learn about the EP L in general. So why don't we start with our general questions because you know, we see it from afar, and I know some things you can clarify others true or false. There is no playoffs. Not really. So the the end of the regular season whoever's the number one team wins. Yeah. It's just it's just points-based yet. So you in the in the PL nice. You have twenty teams. They will play the twice. Okay. So would be every club will play thirty eight games once Hyman wounds away. That's that's so simple. All right. Let's great. So a win. She three points. A drool gets you one point. Okay. I haven't loss leaves you with no points penalty kicks. That's something. Completely different overtime that more more different stuff that regulation ninety minutes over if it's a tie a draw. There will always be added time. So I did time his so it's for stoppages. So if you have an injury or substitutions taking so long as they had that in the World Cup. Yeah. They will add on. It's usually average is probably about two to three minutes. We'll be about three minutes. But there's no fifteen minute overtime. 'cause there's no not for the league. That will always just be regulation ninety minutes plus at a time. Okay. So as you can end in a draw. The only reason you would ever have extra time and penalties is when you can only have a winner. That game. Whereas you allowed to drool in the in the family, right? If it's like a tournament where you need a win or you go to penalty. Exactly, but this regular season this EPL that doesn't have a playoffs. It's just three point one point total points at the end of the season. Whoever has the most wins. So there'll be a time where like there's three games left in the season. But this team is so far ahead for now. Three weeks. People are playing meaningless football games pretty much. Yeah. So you can you can win. Some some teams of almost thing. Cornmeal like ten weeks. You can mathematically do it while thirty and one that doesn't sound very American. Yeah. Well, if you mean if you they will actually do that they'll be a game. Usually one of the big boys will will just steamrolled through the season. And they'll be like, well they've won. We'll have relegations right? So that's what I want to tell me about relegations. So every year. Three teams will be relegated to the lower division. The the bottom three teams. Yeah. It's like the minor leagues. So if I guess they're forty teams down there to not fully, there's shifts. Okay now been on. Nobody gives a fuck about the minors until you see. Oh, yes. Primarily the championship. Right. I'm not sits. And there are there's more than two thousand teams I believe in the championship. And then you division one two one two eight just keeps going as you get go down. But the Premier League is is to the bottom. Three teams of get promoted tolerate teams in the lower le- get promoted, and I go up bottom three teams in that. Do they get lower? Yeah. So you can go all the way down you too dark black pit of the web's the last three teams just play bowling. You're so bad. You can't play football. You you don't get to play the sport anymore. You become a mailman now Cardiff City. Has your favorite team ever been relegated? Like, what is that? Like for a season in my lifetime. Okay. That's was like top-five all tell me who are the big boys. So right now, I'd say probably the top sakes. So Manchester City Liverpool Tottenham Chelsea also Manchester United those are the ones heard of those sound familiar right off the bat. We're going to choose one of the big boys. We're not gonna you all hotter. I spilt some of these names like I've never heard. There's a city named Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace's team in London. Sinoe or something. Well, it's also right? Yeah. London. So London just has like six teams that go. Walk foot off no shit like West Ham. Also, no Chelsea Tottenham palace. And they're also as a few. So let me ask you this. Do they have mascots like in basketball or football eagles the bears? So does anyone call arsenal? It's like, oh, I don't say that. I say, they're the what are they will? They have everyone has like a nickname. So the awesome would fans will be called the guns because he would be because the gun is. Because the I'm gonna get. Be very upset with my lack of knowledge the all snows badge as a kind of a gun got it which we've line America the bullets at to change their end of the wizards. Like it it gunners. Forget and we're in America. Yeah. Is it racist enough for us? What do you have an ethnic slur about Indians? But yes, so they everyone has this light like nickname type thing. Yeah. Liverpool fans. Well, actually, we like you have your going to Liverpool sweatshirt right now. I am. Yeah. That looks like a dragon or a Griffin offensive sort. It's a live Abud alive. Live of buds, which is the slush fund is this a livable city symbol, got it. What kind of bird is live bird? Is it a birth? Prey I have no fictional. You guys. Making me liberty. Just going to be hard to get me to root for a team that has a bird. You got buds falcons. Falcons eagles. Yeah. Hawks. Those are the whole. Yeah. There is no I mean, you got like a rooster caucus. San diego. The gamecocks. Here's another question for you players. Not getting traded getting purchased. What's that about? Okay. So yeah, it's the mope and market, basically. So every okay. So in basketball player has a contract. Yeah. Steph curry five-year deal hundred eighty million. So if you want him, you got to trade for him or he becomes a free agent at the end of that five years, and you pay him his money so at work in the EP L, so you guys so trading. So how does the trade just real quick? Let's say the warriors wanted to trade Steph curry they try to get players of equal value back for him. Okay. And they have they have the the money that he makes has to match up. They never actually paying out any money to buy him. Correct. That doesn't exist. What is that the buying of the player? So what would happen is is say say, you, you know, the had livable, whatever. Right. And you wanted messy liau messy Lana messy. Lyle? I've been told there's that much. You are lions there's a little bit of messy sleep. What t- what team does he play for? He plays FC ball, Selena not even this league. He's not. No, he's in a lead. You buy. The league anywhere in the world. Okay. So what is that? Okay. Let's say liver wants him. That's what we have to do is. That's like the NHL buying Steph curry. All right. You don't change team. But you also take you're going to be at a differently. It's like buying a European player drafting them you'd go to win those of Pacino to transfer windows in in a given season before the season starts you've got. I think they reduced it this year in the primarily usually have between July and then the end of August. I believe is when the transfer window shots. Okay. So that's when you can do your business, and then it reopens for one month in at the beginning of Johnson, and John right now, currently the transfer windows, and so say live aboard into by Lionel Messi. Well, they would do it. It's to do with his contract. Teas so he would have signed. He's probably I think he signed a new deal. So he's going to pledge his entire career. They will he may have a buyout closing his contract. So they might say his clothes right now is five hundred million euros Sula who gets gets that half a billion euros the club go to buy contract out because that's a buyout clue. And then you have to pay the player, then wages are a completely different things. So just trying to get just to buy them won the Cup can decline at anytime, particularly if the place so they can buy them. And then legal is that will you're gonna have to pay me a lot of money because I don't wanna play. Yeah. You would be there. And then also not get them to play for you. Why? I mean, or is that all play play can be sent against that. Will you buy them? Right. Let's say Liverpool does. Okay. Half a billion. That's okay. So what we've done there is all we've done is. We've triggered his buyout close. Okay. Just a scheming. That's what he hasn't his contract because he may have had has a contract where there is no by close. There is no set amount to how you can trigger negotiations. Got it. It could be completely open ended loud. So we may have to we go. Hey, five hundred million from messy and the guy now fuck off Lau six seven I it can just keep going at that blitz. Highest buyout that's ever happened. I have no idea. I know that I think name all went for the most money. So I think he's the highest. Yeah. What was he the peel? No, he's currently in the French leak. So who's the who who's who's the best player all in the in the EP L? Yeah. Right now that comes that's biased. I now you're going to get because. Because it's it's because it's say I'd say there's a couple of the does Silva, Kevin debris, Anna, I know Belgium. Right. Yeah. From Belgium World Cup. He's good. We currently we have the best centreback defender in the while mos-, no Virgil Van Dyke. I not know that guy. Where's he from? Did he play the World Cup? He's from Holland. He. Well, Andy though, oh, they did not they what that was a big deal. Just to go back a second. I pay half a billion dollars. That's the buy out. That means that his contract is void now. I have to negotiate with messy now you have to negotiate. Yes. So that's the fee that the club said if you want to talk about how much you have to pay so you've already paid that. So that's that's now you talk too messy and you'll to get him in the room. The difference between you, and I like you care about the money and the contracts and yeah talking about the players. The hottest goalies. Some becker. Beca hundred percent. I want you to Google him eats. He plays for Liverpool. And he may also resemblance to someone may be Allison Becker, isn't that also the name of a comedian. It is also Becker. Oh this. This guy's got. Oh, look at hair. L becker. Doc head bids. Six full yet. Here. So taking. He looks white. I. Oh, I cannot ask you about the players that I know from the World Cup and asked where they play what about Harry Kane. Harry them Tottenham Tottenham Hotspur London club. Yeah goods, but I haven't won much what about baba killing him. Bubba place for parasail Jamin differently differently differently league French league. But then these teams sometimes play charter right now, that's the Champions League on my guess, fuck and mess. Okay. We've gotta find a way to. The top the twenty you'll look on Premier League team. I'm gonna guess the team with the best record wins the EP L is that like a big. I mean that must be a big huge is like winning the Super Bowl. I mean, but in the only people in England would really cat. So here's the weird thing this league. This is why it's very unamerican because America created the Super Bowl they can sell commercials. They can make a big deal out of it. They own it. They can monetize it with the EP L. You don't know when the Super Bowl is going to happen. It could be a random Thursday at four thirty AM the team clinches the best record and they're celebrating. They won the championship. And that's going to be on March third or that is okay. Yeah. That's the point. I mean, there is the day the club lift the trophy. For instance. A wins wins the league. Yeah. It is random it can happen on the final day. They get the trophy that day. Like it depends. It's mathematically impossible for anybody. But you to win. Here's the trophy. I think what they'll do is they'll that they could win say say they win. But that win is dependent on someone else's loss. That was playing at the same time, they could lose and then. Somebody else loses. And then they get they lost. But they win the world championship that day. They could in theory. Yeah. Are they celebrating one you could you could draw I guess and then start team could. And then we haven't even got to go different yet. I'm just comparing this to American football where like your team could basically be at five hundred you know, like five and five, but you're not mathematically you could still win the Super Bowl. You know? Like, you just gotta get lucky. The right time your team could kind of suck and go all the way into the playoffs. No. Yeah. No. That's not gonna happen with the Premier League. So you need to be super consistent as a fan are you invested in every single game? Like what if I chose right now? I am real. Thin right now. So what if your team is just consistently like fifteen fifteen or whatever the you're not even close. Yeah. Like, do you watch the final weeks? I guess she. I mean, it depends. If you're mid-table too. I mean, the support and the passion will always drive through and and the feeling of a wins always good anyway. Right, right, regardless of whether you're competing, but there's not just that. So fucking out you ready for this. So top place you win the trophy. Right. You in the win the primarily, but if you in the top full so to three and full you're right now, it's Liverpool man city Tottenham and Chelsea. That's right. So right now those full have a spot in next year's Champions League tournament, which is like the best of the best. That's the best four four best of the amount changes depending on the leak. Everyone gets full complete entries that Champions League. Is with the French. Yes, you'll get Lita. You gotta let alone of versus man city and the United States. Are they in there? They the LA galaxy. It's only for so it's. Teams for the Seattle. Sounders are not going to be playing Boehner mouth where. When does that start that plays that plays at the exact same time as the as the league's going on? So you're gonna play midweek. So if you're good 's you're actually getting hammered because we will play a game where we might play city Manchester City here. One of the best teams in the world. We might have them on Saturday and then on Tuesday or Wednesday. We may play ball Celona. So these glands the same time. No, I veto that one. And then once for the champions is for the champions champion is that Champions League is the champions league's different so old. There's a and they make the teams, right? So you're in these tiny leagues made up four teams and the top two from each of those many leagues will go into a knockout tournament. So it becomes you get to the final sixteen. So that was a little World Cup action. It's exactly. Every year every so what's considered a better winning? Would you rather deliver pool be the number one English Premier League team? Or would you rather than the champions are the Champions League? We all currently we've won the Champions League will the the European Cup changed names in overtime livable. Currently have wanted the most times of any team in the in the English Premier League that we have five five. Yeah. But I made it doesn't finals lost year where we lost to row Madrid's. They they most Allah's one is best player. He was such Ramos dislocated his shoulder to pitch. Sounds like you're over at anyway. So what's what's a bigger deal winning the championship? The team because Liverpool the problem live. I'm gonna pitch you might. I wanted to be liveable fans. That's liverpool. Is they haven't actually won the league in twenty eight twenty nine years. Wow. So wow. Right. So even though they've they have the best record in the Champions League yet. But they did most of that good work in the seventies and eighties. So I live aboard the juggernauts of football before I was born one everything they an and by the way site another thing it never used to be the Premier League primarily going stall it in the nineties house just the like fest fest division. Mrs just called league one. I get how many teams are in there. I have no idea I'm skewed at similar to what we have. It just became its thing. Right. Liberal one since it turned into the Premier League able hold over us. But if you take what that Cup is. And what it represented for years? We've won it eighteen times when it was a different league yet. That's kind of football. There was like before the AFL or the NFC in the AFC created the NFL. There was like oh before. Yeah. So you record still counts to certain degree. They still they still were the, you know, the winners of the top league in just wasn't team with chip on their shoulder. That's kind of nice. We absolutely have a chip on shoulder because kids who will city rivals. Now. The DP triclean Liverpool and Manchester deep patriot like fights riot that kind of thing. Why is that? I think it's to do with. I always I'm from London, which is which upset people that I support team. That's not from my say, but it's to do with. I think with the docs, and employment. There's a whole lot of things going on with that. But they also became I was because live runs up. And so there's big city rivalry between Manchester and Liverpool. And then when Liverpool stopped winning Manchester. United had so Alex, Ferguson, probably the greatest football manager ever. And he wanted sir Alexander like Bill. It's on so much cooler. If he Megan he got his Bill check how many times did they win. They are up to surf where eighteen twenty twenty at twenty of the of Premier League cement, Chester United. I think is the keys they do they spend the most money to they haven't in recent years. I think that has been an influx of there's been so manches to city different teams. Yeah. They had our owners come in. Yeah. And just throwing billions just like they just they one Chelsea how to way back when with a Abramovich he was a Russian oil guy a Lagarde. I'm in you need the billionaires, you do you need that investments? Ask you this us. Are you're going to go. I've got a very I'm enthralled showing so hard to make this. That you that's a geography questions for. Monitor the exact opposite. Where is liver? I truly like I have no idea where anything is. When you say their city rivals are Liverpool and Manchester like in the same party. Whoa. Firstly England small right? Yeah. So London being salad field. Whereas Boehner mouth, I'm serious. Because even I don't I wow does failed as got. I'm not great job Raphy. But you know, London is right on. Yes. Okay. So, you know, wiles is no, no, okay. So so London is south southeast right around that. Right. And then wiles is the which is the furthest saw the opposite side. Yeah. It's opposite side way out west live poise like north west above Wales. I think and it's about a three to four hour drive from London. If you think about it. It's the same drive to Vegas except have you heard the accent change? Now. Let's let's hear it. I can't do it. You'd have to type in Liverpool. It's the Beatles. It's the bills. But even that isn't as strong as what like a play like legend, Stephen Gerald's, you probably wouldn't understand him. Really? That's a four hour drive. If you go just an peaky blinders. Now, I've seen the pilot episode. So you had the accident, right? Yeah. I guess I hear that one again, call do. But that's only an hour and a half joy from London and the accent completely changes. So we have are you are you like, I mean, you're liberal thin. Even though you're born in London. But for the most part people born into their fan, use your Huddersfield, are you? Yeah. More than likely most most the problem, the reason I think like people like clubs like Manchester. United and Liverpool. Tens have suppose all around UK. It's just because. There's a lot to do with immigration while immigrants when they move. Really having attachment to this city, I know of Indian people when they immigrated to the UK live on top. So they just like that team. Yeah. Hey is almost your. That's like your new home, the whole entire you. Don't fucking now you just who's winning civic pride quite exactly so everybody was a bulls fan in the nineties because Michael Jordan there we go. Okay. Salary cap question. Yeah. Is there a hard cap or can you spend as much money as you can spend as much there is there is a fair. There was a fair fair play rules fat fast bending rule, which is it's you call spend above you'll. It's not really I kind of. Yeah. You have to you can't just overspend school responsibility. Just a general. What's your income en going out going up yourself, and it doesn't really I don't think it's monitored? Sexy soccer player. Yes. Most jacked player. Jack, the best legs you want the best call. Yeah. Who's got the best Coutts? Shakira. I are. Oh, this is the short, dude. Yeah. Look is calls. He's so sure what team Seon forgivable. Oh, no switched up a Swiss Swiss. Yeah. Cavs. So he's the best Cavs. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh christ. He's his Cavs. Look like aren't God, they're ridiculous. So what can you do with that on a soccer sprint? Short bursts, how thick legs. So that looks like my torso. Jesus christ. So bowl, it's ridiculous. And he's think it's the I can good questions on on him. I don't know if that's just the way he is. You've got to do something to get that out you cafes forever until you die. He's just constantly doing cafes. And then on the on the other. Right. 'cause you can't that's really hard to workout. I know a lot of Jack's personal trainers who almost. Yeah. That one is like natural more than anything else. Either have thicker legs or your legs. And you can't. Yeah. Like my or someone's once penis could be who's got the biggest dick in the peel. That's a great question. Does anybody? Yeah. It's come out come out. Someone's dick famously flocked out majesty it, Gary Pull's coast type in polls goes peanuts, these type, and then S C H LES skulls on those is not about Anthony thinking. Football players photograph their penis out or erect ask for it to be a right under their shorts. Yeah. There's a whole like message. There's dark web. I think it was pulls goals. He's being came awkward moment. When you're dick is the tweet. And then I'd there's no photo attached. There should be I'll dig around Limoges images. But you had journal persecutors Cavs. That dangerously hot. Okay. Let's now get to you selling us on Liverpool or perhaps throwing some other squads and I'm gonna throw in over squatter under the bus like oh, not choose. So if you had to choose one little segment, so even if we don't choose Liverpool. Tell us one team that you would really really hate for us to choose, you know, interesting, and what's the what's tell me 'cause you're talking to a Yankee and a Laker fan. So like anything's play for us. Young Lakers fun. Yeah. What do you guys think? The Boston Red Sox. I hate the Red Sox. This isn't good. Fenway sports group that Boston bad for both of our Liverpool. Who? Tub start. Yeah. It's kind of interesting gonna American connection Fenway LeBron James manage him or something ending not that I know of but between Fenway, and because LeBron is a major shareholder in liveable. Okay. I've been LeBron Liverpool. There's pitches in we're in the show. He's he tweets about. There is some owns a piece of the team major shareholder. Lebron Liverpool connection. That's a good. That's a good selling point his investment in liver. We also sponsored by Dunkin donuts come on that is. Okay. So which which he Manchester United is the don't that would be my team. Yeah. That would be my team. But you know, it's as much as I I've got a bigger problem with Manchester City. Let's hear that why. Because they're like they're like team in in matinal fief and someone's ton on so fucking cheat code front limited spending. So they just that's the Yankees. That's what that's what the no salary cap baseball there. Like if pretty good glaring, we'll hundred million dollars. Yeah. So what's happening is the they all why you should watch this year. And why I live poor great examples because we have spent money. I mean, we went out and and spent like what was it seventy five million on Virgil Van Dyke, which was the most money ever spent for a defender for one year. No, no, no. We signed him for like a five year deal five or seven that was just that's his wage. Just what we? Played a paid the club to get him. That's this buyout thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was there is transfer feel we triggered his out because I think that was just as transfer fee seventy five Mils, that's what they said. So they would come back to us and say, he's not leaving this club Falesa on this. And then livable said sure, let's do it. And then you have to pay him how much then you have to pay him his weekly wage. We know. Yeah. And you don't know what the we? So the number in Van Dyke V A N space D Y K E wage, and I think he's probably a maybe he's less than two hundred weekly salary. Yeah. It's funny because everyone talks about the big figure the buyout figure. But they don't really know about the contract amount. In an American sports is like the opposite. Everyone knows about the contract. You don't know. There's no you want to know how rich your favorite player is. Yes. So seventy five million pound figure makes Van Dyke. The most expensive defender of all time Liverpool as a digitally handed Van Dyke. A handsome hundred eighty thousand pound or two hundred fifty thousand per week salary quarter million a week. Yeah. That's cool. And then also whatever he would have also had to have paid him a signing fee. In addition. Yeah, it's fifty K a week is that the season or the whole year that will just be. Yeah. That's his white his. Yeah. Does he get away JR. Playing in the championship too. I believe it's interesting film inclusive. Yeah. Your money doesn't go up like you. All right. So you're playing one game a week. Don't get. I'm sure bonuses. And she'll bonus. And he'll be on on just hate for him to struggle for anything. Sure. To make sure that he's getting offseason. But yes, but this is well like. He if he keeps it clean sheet. Which is you know, they know one we don't see goal throughout the game. I'm sure he gets a bonus. Maybe ten grand that that's a clean. Do. You have a favorite player currently. Yes. Virgil Van Dyke. So since he's come in so live. We live was. Thusly? We have probably the best manager. Most charismatic all you'll have made. Club and Herman Germany yet. He's from the from the bundy's leak, and he came in three years ago 'cause in struggling and what he's done to that squad without doing the man's away of spending half a billion or whatever he's just got playing probably the most interesting attacking football right now. I'm getting Gregg Popovich vibes from him if he's the Spurs basketball. Okay. They don't have the best team. But like they never missed the playoffs. Because pop is like the king. He's like the most intelligent strategy. I get the most out of his players. We've got a few like we're not they're not he's up there. With like I'd say right now, he's Parine the top three in the manages in the EPL pep Guardiola who's Manchester City's manager Pacino whose Tottenham's manager. And he's all manager. They're probably the three best all has the mice on the, and that's cool. He just love him. What is what are Liverpool's colors way? Read read straight up Wrightwood, just read. Yeah. Every other sport in the world is to colors, right? Well, the Red Sox read their red and blue we also red and white okay, arsenal and Manchester United red and black of who. Red black and white and red is straight of little straight always shorts in the shot. Will have a song. We do have a song very famous song. It's it's you'll never will align by Gerry, and the pacemakers Sar you just took another real famous and made it your song or they wrote it for Liverpool. We took a famous. Yeah. It was believe it was the most famous livable manager ever who took them from nothing team to like a toe top side way back when Bill Shankly he's the most revered manager of clubs history. I guess he's the Vince Lombardi of the pack is got it. Coach of all time. His favorite song was you'll never will collide. And that became the teams on them. What about like a chance or cheer? There's a few we go we got one from most Sala. Like when he scores when he gets just during the game and just like bricks outs always to. Yeah. And it will always be to culture song. So. Okay. Mosala one is the same theme that some said on oh said on oh, sit down sit on X to me that song shore. You had. Sit down next to me. So the most sung is most seller. Most most solo running down the weighing. Egyptian king. That's my solace who comes up with the songs. Booking idiot. This is said would truth is guy here weekly wage? I think it's on. I joined the Liverpool Fisher club official, read whatever. And there's someone submits lyrics and says to this anthem. I don't know. And they still come the real old Lodhi Mosa LA. Those on ball just they just just happens. And then you hear it like it feels actually would love tonight 'cause there's a synchronicity where it's a Greek upon by the fans, and then it's just done in unison at one point. And everyone's like oh shit. So like Stephen Joe had one which is a great when he's all my favorite player will time and his was and you'll just hear this. Steve Gerard Gerard hill pass the bowl full two yards? He's big and he's fucked hard, Steve Giral Gerard. And they'll just repeat little kids and girls are singing fucking hard can heart. It's like this weird weird. Al. Yeah. And we would so close this breaks, my heart. My should because people will come in about I didn't mention this. So we were very very very close to winning the Premier League in twenty fourteen where it's happening again right now, we could win but in two thousand fourteen we're gonna win and Stephen jowled who's best player who lifted the Champions League for us. He we beat man city. And during that game, we was so close we point. So why why would just have to just keep it? Keep going just keep winning games left. Right. And we were taught. Oh, and he grabbed the group together off the we snatched a win and he screamed at the play. And he said this does not fuck in slip and this famous sound bite from him in a huddle. And this radio sets me crying the next game. We're playing Chelsea I think it was the next game and the defendant pulses it to Stephen Gerald's. And we have to win this game. Or at least drew with to keep keep get point keep going, and as he posits Stephen John he slips on the floor. Dem ball pic symbol of the opposition plan cousin schools, and we so he's literally literally slit. So now, they sing Steve draw draw. He slipped on his fuck off. And they changed the lyrics. Wow. Wherever we go CHOGM at anytime about Liverpool. Someone tweets me gif of him slipping you could type in and say, Gerald slip. It's bad break breaks, my favorite level time is he's still playing. Now, he never got to lift one trophy the he so badly wanted. Yeah. He's called what you don't even turn that by the way. Demba would also be good for case. That's the best song ever in football. The brothers. One is his name is y'all Tori, and the other brother is Tori, and they have the best Sean ever in football. Let's hear it. It's just y'all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tour right Colo code because as team as well. And and it just goes even over and over again is that a British thing specifically the song or do other countries do countries do it like. Like ancient ones to rice. They have been around that long. Yeah. They were all I mean, you'll never walk linesmen. Are they'll sing that? Right. So that plays every time we enter the we go on the pitch. And then also the club the fans will sing at various points. Every club has a song even Boehner mouth born Muth. I've been waiting to wondering what the fuck is bona math phone -ment, number twelve. Born. That's way too long to the foxy talking about. Clubs have a someway, a Manchester United's one of the most common one is is they sing sunk champion ale- something it's about being champions. Dismissive of the. Mencia easing. True blue. Yeah. Blue. Yeah. There's a few. It's very I think it's more common with with the the that is stigma against teams in the south's. I particularly London-based teams tend to be not very loud them will parsh- civil that give it up as much as the northern fans and fans of the loud. It's like game of thrones. Right. That's Jake north. Yes. The rough and ready down for Liverpool's the Stark's on the hundred percent. Yeah. Like, they would be there up that definitely fell. We're up north just before Scotland and all of that before the wool there. No Scotland teams in the EP L, no day. Have there aren't actually there's only ready to teams in Scotland ninety caz about, but it's base mainly with to do with religion. It's process and Catholics. Tell me about this team. He's every team seems to be named after city. And then they're at number nine is just the word wolves. We'll with that Wolverhampton. So we'll. Their mascot is the city. I believe I could be roam the Wolverhampton wolves. I was Wolverhampton Wanderers. Yes. They were teams. We'll have to wonder is. Yeah. But wait, see, I'm not not prepared. No about the wolves. This shows how quickly we started this podcast texted. You were thinking about starting. And then asked you to come in early reading. I I will. I know is is enough to impress an American people. Listen, you're an expert to me. Yes. I am like really pull. So your play more fee for than watch football L interesting. Yeah. See your but your endorsement, basically Liverpool. And then you're anti -dorsements is your is manned city. Yeah. I'm. And yet because I believe the valet all ruining Manchester United Manchester City in the same. Yes city, and then they would be considered Dhabi rivals. So when when awesome play Tottenham their rivals because of the distance they they showed the same city. Right. So one that both north London clubs. So that's that rivalry in Liverpool. Our city rivals could advertising. So that will be Everton Liverpool be considered a doll game. Then there are deep rivalries that all not related to necessarily being the same since he's that'd be liveable Manchester United. Let's let's talk names, we need a name this show. This is a few of our brainstorms say mostly my brainstorms. Jake's favorite, wannabe hooligans. Wanna be okay hooligan is just any soccer Phanor rowdy drunken one thing is British specific. I mean, there's football hooligans football. Yeah. Who can still be a hooligan? But I think is usually associated with football. Okay. The break the great British kickoff a lot. Okay. Great British kickoff. Yeah. The soccer football show who. New fan who this. After wannabe hooligans. Every single title is from Amir. I have not come up with a single one new new fan who this is is doing better in my mind club fan witch, kind of like a club sandwich pun, but also asking us which fan club, which Radi. Rady strong. Okay. Lastly is yours kicking it. But I feel like maybe there's already a soccer football podcast called kicking who said kicking it. You think he did at the top? I did not endorse that. Kicking it? All right. You said kicking it. And then we said it should be. I think it should be football in football in it in question and explain soccer in it in. It is deconstruct that for the wood in it. Yeah. You know, use that isn't it? It is. Yeah, it is an on. It would probably be used as a substitute for for for. Right. Got it football. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you spell it ID and apostrophe t-, it'd be I and then I in and in football in and and I e yeah. In our imposters for using that word, or is it is it, okay? For us to appropriate. Like that football. I'm Lenny you'll allow it. I'm in Dawson it anything. So I that's what I would. I like the clubs club football fan with club fan witch fan witch. It's just it's a it's a good pun. But a terrible. But this podcast is not going to last forever. Cast has to have like a name. That's like, oh, what's that new podcast? You listen to club fan witch. Club sandwich. Hey, check out this new podcast. Like, you got the ask to have a name that you're not afraid to say new fan who this is. I'm not afraid to say new fan who disk because this is where it doesn't. Football. And there's also aged? Yeah, I think is is the cover image. You dabbing? In a perfect world. What about fan? Oba football style fan Daniel back at it again with the club fans. Voter mouth USA. If you're going to purely on your location where you were born what teams should you be fan of Gaza? Great question. I I think like you get away with. I I'm not from north London from north west London, but it would be completely acceptable. If I suppose all snow because it's it's not that far on the cheap. So like in London, it's a matter of like blocks it I mean, I saw your many teams in in London late Chelsea like I said, I didn't even get to like Queens Park Rangers. Which would be really close to me was another club called well, Fulham Fulham's Flums nineteenth are going to be. Relegated, dude. Yeah. For the month. Well, but they will also newly promoted which is struggle. So they've just come up and have just come up and they're like back down. A few years ago. And I'm not pitching fetus is less the came up with nudie promote and then won the league. That's right. There was like a five hundred to one shot fucking on who's insane. How did they win just went on? There was a I think that that a great manager. They had the thing is the league below them is probably harder than all leak in its own way. It's so competitive, so you think if all of the teams are just mediocre trying to get to the to the top. But I think they're actually really goods like so there's another okay fucking. Oh. Okay. EPL? Yep. So Liverpool for instance, when they start a season right in August. Will be available for full separate competitions at the exact same time. You have the premise leak which that we do in. Then if the Champions League, which they've progressed in the now in the knockout stages of the law sixteen they're also in the FA Cup. And they're in the League Cup thing. They just crushed out the FA Cup yesterday. Those away. You will nearing the FA company English Cup and the League Cup. The League Cup will be played Darna. I don't know why the league cups to my straightest one. It's just those same twenty teams playing. But the FA Cup. Let's in. So you'll be playing teams in the division below you. I can't I can't you're sick. We gotta stick to the can wrap around these four league. So there's two tournaments base. Three ornaments in one league. You'll be in three tournaments and one league every okay if you qualify cheeses, Christ, just focus on the big. Seven seven games, you play more games than weedy in basketball. It's eighty two games. Naval bollocks, isn't that excessive baseball one hundred sixty one. That's why you need that you know, because you got to watch something every summer day for three and a half months. As ball to baseball games in a day, a double headed, it's very easy to play baseball. You don't have to. Fuck shoulders pitchers. Baseball players bodies. They're pretty much weird looking out of shape. Yeah. You can be a fat forty seven year old play baseball way. There's no way full plays off. Applies can play that volume of games. Yeah. What's the oldest? What's the oldest football player depends? What position you play goalkeepers tend to have probably the most longevity thirty eight. Maybe they can go to. Yeah. Then go into their full. I think before he's an Italian bald. Right. No, no, no, no, good looking guy. Beautiful is I did a commercial with him. Well, yeah. That's pretty cool. I'll give you an exclusive. Okay. Cigarette outside with him while he was in season. Oh, he was just fired. Half Luigi reform. Yeah. He's in his forties. Goalkeeper since the Muslim jeopardy. It depends on the it's usually with speed as you getting Sliwa. So they were -sition that it's okay to lose speed a little bit yet. But usually most people start looking at retiring early just like. He's just like how often are players bought in like to another league entirely. Oh, very often. So like if you have a favorite player, they could be gone. Like, what's the average like your favorite player? Will you be able to watch them for a few years, or as you usually? I think I think you get you'll probably get between three and five right from when you buy someone unless something crazy happened. See usually usually going to see that guy for about three to five years. Most saw is in his second year. Are the lifers that guys on the team for fifteen years? Oh, yeah. For sure you'll get you'll get the guys won't though that positional stay. I mean, Stephen Joe never didn't leave us for fuck. I think he played I foot seventeen years cheeses. Yeah. From e came on the pitch when he was not like that on the. When he was someone walked on. He was like seventeen and I think he retired from us at three let's go. There are some similarities to like the American football. 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LADS#152 - Liverpool/Spurs Comeback Baby feat. Logan Smith

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LADS#152 - Liverpool/Spurs Comeback Baby feat. Logan Smith

"Ooh. No. No. Thing vase. All right. Welcome into latte podcast today is may tenth twenty nineteen. Happy Friday everybody we have a special nest on the show today. We have Logan the creator of our discourse cattle massive Liverpool fan and Dow's IRS so Logan do little introduction. Tell the people. Yes. So I'm not a scouts. I'd ever have been to England. So I just a big fan of Liverpool. But yeah, I started the discord is been I don't know it started at the beginning of the actual season. So it's been like eight months now. And yeah, there's a bunch of people in it. It's really fun. Come talk to to talk about whatever don't get a those is salt, your be mean, we all have pretty friendly conversations. But in pretty good chat. So I think the discord link is somewhere on on Twitter Facebook. But if I measure you just ask and Kevin will Lincoln to via. I'm ready to talk about the greatest game that has ever been played in Champions League history. Exactly. We're going to get right into that. But yeah, the discord channel if you ever want to join a come hang out like thirty plus people now, which is really cool. We just talk about beer soccer over of so Logan. Thank you so much for creating NASA Logan from. Man. A no no don't don't the yard in the back. So let's get right into it. You're Liverpool fan this champions. I just wanna stay has been the most insane. I think we say this every year, but I feel like this year, especially with the Tottenham of four three crazy game. You had the which I will correct now it was event this coming back and let it go Madrid. Aer you go you got your time. Thank you. Yes. We just recently had the Liverpool comeback against Barcelona. We had the Tottenham. I x. Unreal. Mantis United PS G. Lest we forget. So I gotta start off with this. As a Liverpool fan. How today feel that comeback against Barcelona because I will say in the first leg liberal, even though Liverpool lost three. No you guys played exceptionally. Well, there was a three nil loss where I was like this doesn't make sense it that was it was just miss chances. So give me your breakdown of this two leg affair. Yeah. Le-? Well, it should have been to nobody messy messy things just activated guilt and decided to score one of the best free-kicks I've ever seen. So that didn't help us being down three nil. Whenever message does shit like that. But yeah, we we played pretty good against Barcelona. But obviously not gonna they're better at home. But on the way leg we were just better every single way bar. I don't know what it was. They just didn't look up to it. And we just we just performed better. It took a brace from when now dome in Riga to do it when we have. Saleh within have for me. No. I don't think he played either. So we were missing two of our three frontliners, but went out and scored brazen Rigas quarter brace and the psych that's all you gotta do to become like club legends. So they can go literally anywhere in Liverpool for the rest of their lives and just get free drinks. But all you want. Honestly, like that's all I want like if someone said like, okay, did you win like this Champions League or something like that? I just wanna goal in a semi final. Like could. I have a career of ten years or score like a championship winning goal. Champions League winning goal as of one hundred percent. And it doesn't matter who you play for those fans. Will remember you forever, at least until at least for that generation. They're gonna remember you, and they're gonna love you. But that's rent Arnold free. Kick to regain shows just how smart of player he is twenty years old. He's twenty years old as crazy. He's already becoming one of the best right backs in the world. I very very proud, very happy. And yeah, it's funny because in the NBA if I could make reference LeBron. Isn't in the punishment for fifteen years and these NBA playoffs have been some of the best of all time Real Madrid knocked out very early. And so now, it's like, well, of course, we all knew they probably we're gonna make you the file anyway, but the Real Madrid ounces is over and shines light to how many other great teams are in Europe. They can contend for this title. I mean, no one expected. I XE Spurs to be the semi-final about. But what happened, and they were it was on such great ways that they got their eye being surprised team of the tournament. And that four three into you Lou to its version city was unbelievable. Eighty add to the United against PSE. That was great. We all became United fence and night because we all collectively just don't would you would you fuck that was awesome. I I don't I like I said last I'm I don't necessarily hate United for them. But I don't like I hate PC, and I like to see them loose, and they got should be them by Phil Jones, and then boys, and it was great. So the Champions League this year has been it's the best. I've ever seen is been so much fun to watch. No going now, I was just going. I was just going to finish that up and say, it's it's been very entertaining in the finals going to be a goal fest say the least I'm so excited but going back to your point. I think this Champions League has been even more memorable because you had teams like I actually with the budget one tenth of man city or a PS. Jeez. And you also had Tottenham move had no transferred this this year. And have barely had any transfers the past two years. Two teams who are Bill on chemistry coaching in the will to win. You know, it was all about like who wants it more. Yeah. That's what I loved. You had. I XE going against you know, you Ventas, which is Renou dough and all these like expensive unbelievable players in the Italian, you know, juggernauts, and then you had Tottenham going up against man city, which on paper, they're fairly close by definitely give man city of bigger edge. But who have spent way more shows that it gives me hope as a soccer fan that like, okay? Like that. Even you don't have to spend a ridiculous amount to be good. And I think Pocchettino has shown that end the whole. I XE quad has shown that as well. And I think that's so important. I think Liverpool who has spend a good amount but hasn't done like crazy spending. Would argue you got Mosa law for steel, I think vertically for that. Even vigil is seventy five and now you look at it. And he's like he's like two hundred player now more than doubled. His what he would go right now Alison Trent or Alexander Roberson who's playing in the Roberston Robbo who's playing in the year. Yeah. Use lane in the championship last year of beano. Who hasn't exactly looked like the monitor that we seem? But now he's really coming into form. And I think for beano who standing in front of that back four worked his tail off in the far Celona. He was absolutely phenomenal phenomenal. He's he's amazing. There was some argument on the disco channel by his stats and people coming down on them. But if you looked at him in the second leg, he was doing things I like kinda Luca Madras. I'm not saying they're close. I'm just saying that on a stat she seen you like worked his asshole. So, but yeah, any any other thoughts on the Liverpool? I mean, it's unbelievable in the scenes. I mean, who this is one of the greatest like I was just you know, I was just people were giving me shit. I was like, oh where does this rank and UCLA comebacks and liberal fans like two thousand five better. Like, I know I know two thousand five Milan was better. But I gotta say this has to be in like top. Five definitely top ten right? Like best is it's up. There's not like six Barscelona against PSE. It's not like, yeah. Like the Liverpool or like United against fire nothing in ninety nine. But it's up. There is you can make an argument that it's one of the best ones is evidence. Best comeback this year of anywhere. That'd be going back to your point with Spurs. I x two as shows how well the seams youth programs are and how well they can really identified talent from young age guy has the vet has the best use youth system. Probably in the world next Barscelona, and it really shows that a lot of those guys like young delays. Those guys were just just homegrown amazing players and ton of to being able to. Ball on a budget in a way and get players that are really Lucas Mora for thirty mil I think about Leo's a still from PS G and son has been great. I don't you know, what the hell they paid for Sunday when they got him. But it probably wasn't lot. Cain. Barely anything alley. Nothing. I mean that team has been as shown the pod is the world's best manager. He can it doesn't matter that he hasn't won anything. He has no fee has no damn money. It's hard to win anything. We don't have any money, but he could still win something with no money, which is defective. He even got to the Champions League. In the first place is is amazing in the champion. You can't say that you you have an easy run. It's impossible. And he means city he beat I actually incredible. So I think just for this further proves that the whole he doesn't have any trophies argument is kinda not valid when it comes to Paci. No it is. I is for most majors, but not much to you know, I think using what he has around him, especially because Tottenham is just hit with the injury bug. So hard is pretty incredible to see what he has done with the town around him shout out to unite Emory, the arsenal manager for selling Lucas Mora to shout out on Twitter to what. Him. If only if only we, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty but yeah. One more thing I just have to give that trick play by Trent Alexander. Unbelievable. Just like just quick thinking. That's crazy. Especially for veteran team like Barcelona who has all these players who've been in these situations like to like unbelievable. And I think it was a tweet by cesspool breath, as you know, the, oh, gee snake of arsenal that he said like no this is just like it wasn't like a trick. It was just amazing. Just like great like the weirdness. Yeah. Is actually really a great one time finished by was when on them, right? I was sorry. Sorry. I just like flabbergasted, I just love. I just love your clocks quote afterwards, which Steve sell Kurt. And Steve Kerr actually quoted him today saying the fucking giants. You know? He's just fine me. I don't care like this is the like the fact that you're going to back to back Champions League finals in that the fact that arsenal of fans like myself have been you know, we've been low key Hayden because you guys of because of success. Of your club Baccino now either one of them is going to walk away with a Champions League. That's amazing. So I will be rooting for you in the final. I'm just saying. Thanks. You're welcome. You're very welcome. But yeah, let's move on to Tottenham game. Which at first I got called on the internet because I posted that picture on Instagram and Facebook of delight saying look at this kid nineteen years old champing his team scoring against you know, you Ventas and Spurs champion seem to Champions League final. Then turns out Tottenham has unbelievable comeback and Lucas Moore has a hat trick. Unreal. Scenes, whatever I'll take the L. I will take it. It's fine. I'm not, you know, I'm not going to beat myself up too hard about that. But can you believe that you have Monday, you have the not bring old wounds? You have the Vinson company screamer. And then Tuesday, you have the Liverpool comeback and then Spurs you have the comeback on Wednesday. Like Jesus Christ. Like, I can't even like, I my blood pressure's too high. I can't even handle this at all. Yeah. Yeah. Lesser days for for football has been incredible. Especially if you're neutral just being able to see what sport has to offer that companies screamer, by the way on believable. I've never seen a Senate bike score a goal that in my life. That was that was incredible. But yeah, it's especially this Champions League to you can't really count any team out as how with how walking how weird it's been with. How many comebacks and how many surprises ulcer have been so. Yeah, you kinda you kinda got lost in the sauce there. The Lucas Moore's showing that front line. First Burs is one of the best in the world whenever the fully healthy, son. Cain mora? That's that's a deadly front three. And I think they'll all be playing in the final. So even though are defense is great. I see it hard for us to not keep them from scoring at least one goal like keeping clean sheeting Zafran three fully healthy special alley by them is going to be tough. So neck. Game's going to be incredible. I is going to be amazing. Yeah. I was going to say I think there's a question from the discord. But I'm gonna preview it now. We'll go over it again. But do you think you should play Cain in this final? Just because he hasn't been in the starting lineup. Do you think you'll be ready for this? I I have no clue I'm not a doctor, but that's side. Logan. I wasn't asking you. Confirmed it okay. Wanted information. I don't have d- just as anybody wondering. But and yeah, okay. So I'm cleared up. But I don't know. I mean, he's I mean, they have his rushing him back. So I wouldn't be surprised if they did. But I mean at the end of the day if he wants to play I mean shit let him because he's he's their best player. And if your best wants to play, regardless of what the doctor say, I'm LS unless he can't walk. I mean shit you kinda have to let him especially your something that big and that important for Tottenham specially with them financing that whole Saint stadium. They definitely need the money for winning two Champions League. So I think they will buy I don't know if they should or not. But they probably will. And yeah, I just gotta say like the heartbreak to the ax players and the fans like, that's that's that's that's an horrible. Heartbreak. You know what I mean? I can't even imagine how those players mostly feeling because it's been nothing, but a dream run for them to end such heartbreak and such late fashion. When was the last goal scored in the ninety six ninety six min. I think all I don't think they're going to get paid into summer that whole teams like probably at least have you know, it's going to happen is going to be the same repeat of Monica whenever they one of the princely couple years ago. Like half of the starting eleven is going to be gone. Probably we already know that young Scott to leaks probably gone. Somebody could probably get touted get him for some good money goalkeepers rumor to be leaving to Barcelona like that's just going to get ransack. But it's I x and they have agrees as and so they're just gonna plug people from the system bay, and I ask themselves or like, you know, we're gonna get a lot of money from these players. So it's it sucks right now. But in the longer, I think they'll be pretty pretty proud of of the of what people -ccomplish. Yeah. I honestly like I also heard from all the money they will be receiving from transferred. They're going to distribute it through the league, which is really cool for them general yet because I like, you don't really see that all like, you know, when. Monica when Monaco got all that money. I doubt that the league got all this money transferred to you know, like. Like, and like, Leo and doubt, they saw that money. So that's really cool. I really really appreciate that. What do you think delight goes elites? I don't know. He might fall diong Barscelona 'cause TD's been really hurt, and they kinda PK's she's going to be aging out, more and more and more. So probably there. I don't know. I mean ak- come play with his with his nations captain Liverpool. You do that in mind him doing that? But I I think we should spend the money somewhere else. But that's that's a topic for a different podcast, but I probably to probably to Barcelona to cut you off. But I think he will fall diong because that would just work for Barscelona. They just I mean, they've already bought delong, and I don't think delete to be too much more. But they're I mean, he's going to be a lot. So you got a high teams have to pay for a team that can afford them, so arsenal definitely need them. There's no gonna four. Him. So maybe like you've vintage because there's interaction aren't h out a little bit. Maybe maybe maybe Biron 'cause they're centreback started little bit PSE always in the cards. They have way too much money. So I it's gonna be a big move wherever he's going is going to be big. Yeah. I think this summer transfer windows can be very interesting because there's also rumors of the Barcelona exodus. I mean, obviously Valle Verde is definitely on the hot see. He's definitely gone. And also now the rumor is Cotino. So it's going to be very interesting where he'd lands as well. He's kind of fallen into the HAMAs Rodriguez category. Where he's kind of like, you know, what's the word? I'm looking for kind of like, not escape go of just kind of like, I can't think of the word a missing link looking for, you know, where he's just like, you know, just aimlessly popping the team the team never really getting neck Laurie. But there he's Asia's a player that goes. From place to place where we could buy has got like HAMAs Rodriguez as well. It's gets to play very similarly physician. Skillset wise. They do they both shoot really far away all that stuff. So I yeah. As pretty ironic that you brought that anything about that. But yeah, I think he's going to go. I think the managers gone, and I think they're going to do a big realized it's started with Dion recalling for both skits cause sedation out so yeah. Yeah. And then what they do with dim belly. Malcolm. Are they gonna keep both of them? Get someone the other. It's gonna really play out very interesting summer for Barcelona. Yeah. I think that also the over reliance on messy is deputy coming to a head. And I think you've seen Argentina. And I think you definitely saw on the second leg of the Champions League where they're just like on like messy. It's all on messy. And it's like, dude, I understand he's considered the greatest player of the if this generation X to Rinaldo, I think he's my favorite player of all time. Not maybe not favorite. I mean teary on res my favorite player. But I think in terms of talent wise, I would say messy favorite to watch on on a game to game basis because of what he can do that out agree. Yep. So it's going to be very interesting. How they like kinda you know, Barcelona is in win. Now, you know. So it's going to be always, it's alone. If you're not if you're not winning championships leagues. They don't give a shit like you you you could win the the the the league there. I can think of the league name. But the league they're all you want. They don't give Dale you've the racist. Dredge if you're not gonna champions leaks your. You're you're saying there's not gonna not gonna be very long. They have wants twenty fifteen was the last one. So it's it's been about four or five years now. So that's that's longer parcel of standards. They want they want to win now. Yeah. I mean, like when you have the talent of Messi who the president just quote it. We're gonna make ten statues of I think they won at least one more before he's gone. So I think it's very interesting me messy so as other like three or four years of his prime. I think before he starts slowing down. I mean, he's only what thirty something like that. So before you hit set like thirty five, you know, where you start seeing the decline and like I mean side like Renaldo who's just still just unstoppable as he ages. He just keeps getting like better seems like, yeah, it's it's very it's very interesting. But I question for you, Logan. I'm looking at Pocchettino what he did. With his squad is the pleaded squad in his making a change like five. Final. Do you think man? United made the wrong choice without with not pursuing him harder. He we. How course yeah. If anything that needs should be pursuing Paci knows hard as possibly can. I mean time will tell because Ozzy United squads just not fit really for most managers except for Paci. No. But it's hard to compare managers to punch in my opinion. I think he's the best manager of the world. I think what he can do with no talent. No other major in the world can do. I think it's it's not fair to to all you're really any of the major try to compare them to to potch. But yeah, I mean shit. It's it doesn't look that. Great right now at probably won't be nature for United as well. As ages go spend, a heavy in the summer still. Yeah. I think they probably didn't make a mistake because if you can get say rumor to chino for ever feels like for like a good couple years, and they didn't. So only time will tell but I think time will tell that will be a terrible decision for them. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I've told Martin on the pod that the definitely gotta give all the ah transfer window and see what he can do. And see you bring and get rid of these. You know loose ends. So and I just saw Luke shawl when their player of the year, which is interesting because I think we saw is not underrated. But definitely gets overlooked sometimes, but it's hard for me to say like during that good str-. Edge where many United very well. I think he was one of their best players when Ali I came in. But it's just hard for me to see. I I don't know who else would you put as player of the year? I mean you could pug by guest. But I mean, he's been really inconsistence Amos Lukaku. It's that is very hard to has not been great at very they haven't had really a stand out player this year who's been great for them. So I don't really know. It's hard you think about it. Shop might not. But it's a pretty good shout. Honestly when it comes to the full season because he's I mean, he's been he's had his inconsistencies, but he's not been asking system as Lukaku Pago has been and he's played in existed. So you can't really give that to Alexis Sanchez because he is I honestly periodically forget that he plays football. 'cause you just don't really see him do anything ever. That's like the biggest bust of all time. Alexa, Sanchez out there. Right. Definitely the last decade in the pram like that is who fell. Big. I mean that was a big swing? I mean, they only talk. Hoops biglou guitar, and I think a little bit of money like thirty Miller something like that. I don't remember what it was. But they didn't give a whole logs big Atari been. Okay. But in terms of what they got back. The Dow was awful for them. They need to get him in his salary out of here as soon as possible. I guess maybe rash rushers been really good this year. I've probably give it a restaurant, honestly. Because of what he needs to the club to going forward. You wanna keep him as happy as possible casinos that cups future. Yeah. He's too in tech. So yeah, I probably to rest richest. So you don't just say don't piss them off. Honestly, that's. Definitely want to hold onto him, especially I was thinking too when we were talking Barcelona they're looking to replace their striker. And I was thinking, you know, I don't think rash. Root is far Celona quality yet. But I think in a couple of years. Maybe I don't know. I think yeah. I think they're definitely looking for a striker replacement. So that'll be that'll be very interesting to see who will take up the new number nine at Barcelona. Yeah. We have a question for that. I think from the discord for garf-, so we can we can lose that later. But I have a few people in my that. I think Barcelona could they whoever they want right? So this with their name alone. Yeah. Yeah. As just how much money they have they could just by whoever they want. So. Yeah. Which is here here goes fifty mil. Yeah. I'll take out taking place you. All right. So before we move into some Europa league, which I know everyone's dying to hear about exciting civil shining tournament in the world, also ran by the Premier Li do you have any? Other last thoughts about the Liverpool victory or the Tottenham victory. The big comeback any lies. It was the greatest game. I firstly scene is good for me because as a sports fan since I've been a heavy sports fan since I was like in my early teenage years, I have seen a single trophy or anything, you know. I'm Celtics fan. I Celtic fan after they won't the championship of university of Florida fan fan after they wanna championships Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan York's. So I've seen eighty championships in my life. So to see a Champions League final would be awesome. But if I was to lose to team if I pick a team to lose suit, it might be Spurs. Honestly, I like they play football is really entertaining. I'm a big fan of Tino. It's I have gotten a lot of shit a lot just like we have for the pram. They get a shift or bottling game. So I would if our narrative clubs narrative of of not being a winner can't end. I would like Paci tina's to end possible. But I've still going to be rooting really hard again. I'm still gonna be Cussing chino out on against my TV's. Whatever the games on. So. Yeah, I'm just really excited for that. The only shitty part is it's in like a month, right or something. Crazy. They made the final so far after the semi-final which six the best games in the semi-finals. So you're so you're just want mortgage. You're feeding for more games. And it's like, well gotta wait till I July or something stupid. Yeah. Exactly. I think it's early June. And you're like, wait what you just totally forget about it for a second. Then you're like, oh, it's here like holy shit. And you just get like super hype. I I'm like this is like the anti lads Champions League final you have had them and. Either way one of the host of lab is going to be really really sad. But at least it, but at least a printer leaks back on top as as all teams are read in the world, the frame release be win the champions again at least. At least at least that's got us going. As an elective and as a good transition and the prince going to be winning negro league. Look at the hell yet do there. Does the to the to Europe league merchants Chelsea and arsenal? Go in going toe to toe the arsenal put up a clinic against Valencia over two legs. What seven goals, I think you guys scored eleven seven to three in a bomb yank just putting up a clinic against them. So I just want just want to say this is the hot take arsenal is good. I say, we're we're good. You're good football too. Great. We're not great. Yeah. You're not tremble winning or anything like that. But you're good football team. When either your over league is is is as long as you win. The euro believe this all the matters. Like, you're not gonna bring up your trophies argument or anything. But hey, if you in the open finishing the Champions League next year. So that's the most important thing for you guys. Because Chelsea they secured fourth place, or is is to lose it by three points or something like that. So they would have to. I I don't think they can lose their head on goal difference. Somehow. Really cable, so Chelsea is seventy one. So they've security Lisa force place. I believe because of Tottenham wins. They'll go up to seventy three in Arsenal's currently sitting sixty seven. So the only way there's. The only way are some gets in Tottenham blues by four goals in arsenal. Scores like five like ridiculous is a yes, there is a way if if somehow you guys win and Tottenham lose, and they go even you guys beat your next opponent by nine goals. There is that you're saying there's a chance there's a chance. Will it probably not not say never as as Champions League has taught us devastate never Europe beleaguer bust for arsenal in the Champions League. So yes, so arsenal beats Napoli beats Valencia Chelsea go in under penalties. Thanks to eat in hazard. I mean, he didn't hazard we discuss this in the discord channel. But even has are not making the team of the year. Many would call a crime. I mean, he's responsible for over. I think now over fifty percent of Chelsea's goals. I'm going to be really sad when he leaves. I know he's going. Everyone's like, oh, maybe maybe not. I think it's ninety percent. Sure. He's the Premier League which is going to suck. Because that's the league. I love league you love, and it's going to be hard for me to watch him. And I don't really watch that much Lolita or I don't know. I think gives the number one spot I think Real Madrid. I don't know if you would go to a buyer Munich, I know frankly breeze leaving, but they have some nice players there. But it's going to be sad when he leaves I'm eating what are your thoughts and eating has. He's just been such a joy to watch these past like six or so years. Yeah, is is been it's been a jam honestly. And he's one he's one of the primarily once or twice again. Remember, it's one twice of the European success that he wanted, but I'll come to an end he's been there since twenty fourteen twenty thirteen hundred like that. So a good good while he's gonna get tenure. He's brought Chelsea a lot that they didn't have without him. So, but I think it's for him to move on. And I think that you know, it's just because contracts of din the season right lane. 'cause he's going on a Freeman we should sold him at the beginning of this year round matured hunt Chelsea fans, but it's always twenty twenty. Yikes. He is. But a yet gives carrying that team because I was talking about this the discord earlier Dzhergenia is shit. He's a terrible player. He may have been one of the worst. He's actually we're talking about the first Sanchez Jorgihno has been not good. He's been bad. And he was I think seventy mil or something like that like a lot of money, and he has school. He has scored two goals has zero assists. Phil Jones and Edison have more assistant at mid to put this into perspective. Liverpool's fullbacks have combined twenty to assist in the primarily. Well, that's just ridiculous. I just wanna say, that's absolutely, sir. Yeah. Well, that's to be fair. That is where most of our attack comes from is from out wide. But yeah, he has none. He's only two goals this year, and he looked at the beginning of the year. But after people figure it out that you've just got sick on him. And you can't really pass it around. But the back of time that he's not been good. But somehow, someway, it didn't hazard and Ruben Loftus shake who's been great have willed them to Arab League finally arsenal. But I think as prediction Arsenal I think will win because I just think arsenal Ari better team. And I think they're I think they're better managed as well. I don't I think that MB is is it will be a better manager in that game. I think he's a better big a miniature. I mean, he's the European champion. I mean, you saw Zia. I mean, he's he's he's been there before you always really good at. Joystick the coach he's been there before. So let's do predictions. All right. Let's we're here. Logan, the suit champions. I what is your prediction for the Champions League final which is in three weeks or so Liverpool Tottenham in Madrid? What's it going to be final score? To one Liverpool. Liverpool school scores. We do what we've been doing all season is probably will be one one after like thirty minutes in in the first half. And then we'll probably score a goal within the last five minutes of the game. We doing all season and still in probably some like, that's what I see happening. I don't see keeping a clean sheet against our against on of this is again, my prediction is also the hurricanes gonna play if he doesn't play. I think it's probably the two nil route because I think he does so much for that team. So important for that team. And this is my prediction with him play. So I think that it's gonna be two one something like that. Yeah. I think it's gonna be a great game as not gonna be a probably gonna be like a bar like a yard. Burner some barn burner that saying is? But it's going to be a great game is going to be a classic great game. And there's no there's there's nobody in goal for us now to fuck it up and concede a goal through his legs Allison his way better than that. And that won't happen again. And hopefully solid would be playing this one for the for the full time because there's Sergio Rambo's to break legs. But I'm a hold of that Sergio that's joke. But yeah, I think it's going to be a great game. What about you? I agree that it will be Liverpool. I'm saying three one Liverpool. I'm an it's my. This team that I do. No. I'm just saying I have if you have Salah, I think they're like, you know, we're back. I feel pool. Klopp is a great manager of players. He knows how to hype his team up. He's gonna be like guys were here. Again. Let's fucking go come on. Now. Like, we don't wanna go through all the fucking hardship. We have one game. Let's when it we've been doing all year. We've been so consistent. I think it'll be cl-. I say three one, but it's going to be like the Barcelona three. No, first leg, I think it's going to be both teams are playing out of their Gord. But at the end of the day, I think Liverpool are going to have the edge, and they're going to want that revenge. So I think for for not revenge against Tottenham but revenge for last year when Salah went down when it could have been a better game. You know? So I think it's going to be a three one of fair, I think Cain scores. And I think Salah Monday in a sneaky, maybe like Jordan Henderson, which I didn't mention in the Secondly, Jordan Henderson played like Liverpool. Capt? Jordan Henderson ESI. Was you know, I'm always like in an out on Jordan Henderson, m hot and cold with him. If you can really lead this team as a captain of Liverpool. He was phenomenal. And the second legs. I wanna give I do wanna give him credit where credit is due. Yeah. I wanna there's no one more hunt called join hundreds into the I hated him in the military, but he's definitely turned it around. 'cause I was unless pockets telling everybody shitty was and immediately proved me wrong, by playing way better and make me like an idiot. But hey, I'll take it. Whatever. That's what it takes to get him to play like a captain outsold writers face. I don't care prolong. Yeah. Food be raw he but he was amazing for us played through injuries. He doesn't care. He wants his Champions League for this team. He is he's he's an amazing player for us for for and also to help our all our young players and all the players this year the week at that were new Alison of Van Dyke last winter, but he is still kind of adjusting to the team as well. Yeah. Everybody Sala whenever he was brought in. To help get people to play together through his energy and through his will play. Sometimes what he does playing on the pitch is great. But at least he's trying he's giving it as as all one hundred percent of the time. And that's all you can really ask for especially from your captain. If he's going to be the captain, you expect that from him. He always delivers on that front. Which is why I always love the player. I don't want to ever believe livable. I've never said that. I would just like it. Maybe if he didn't start every game. But he's playing great for us. Oh, hey, if he's on great form start him, go. Yeah. I think he's going to be one of the best league finals in quite some time. So even though it says three one I still think it's gonna be very competitive. Okay. Let's move on to the rewrote the league final super diction. I'll give time I'm going to say arsenal to one you can have some Eden hazard magic for at least one goal by a bomb and Laka that front to are on fire right now. I think arsenal wins and gets your paean glory for the first time. Yeah. I'm a I'm going to see your two one double that. I think he's gonna be four to I I have very little faith and Chelsea defense. I'm not a big fan of them. Capita has been good this year. But Chelsea's offense is not that good. A like you said abiding logs that have been cooking. Share dad duo is great and arsenal. Courts are scored seven against Linda. This is me kinda getting conned the moment here predicting four, but I think they their offense catches just exploded any given point at Chelsea defense with David Louise, and those guys can be a little spotty for time to time. So, but I also think that ourselves offense is not good either. Arguably worse yet, tell me about Chelsea has a much worse attacks thing, we'd probably Chelsea they don't actually have striker. They just have hazard any can only do so much whenever you have hit Wayne shooting at you. You're probably not gonna score a lot of goals, and I say it, and I hate to RPG on Chelsea because our good friend, Brian the discord he's he's a big Chelsea fan. But. Just when you don't have a striker, and you have some fat guys fed Italian playing strike or fat Argentina do playing striker. It's just can't score a lot of goals. And even though ourselves offenses in that good. The lack of strikers definitely gonna hurt. Chelsea I think so for three or four to five prediction wouldn't be surprised if he has only scored three, but I don't see Chelsea keeping bugai's turn in terms of goalscoring ability. Yeah. I just you know, just paint me the most of Tottenham wins the Champions League, which would be my worst case scenario, and then Chelsea beats neuropathy. It's over you. Don't log onto the lads Twitter account. No obvious soggy sorrows for sure I'm going to it's going to be. I'm gonna be on some serious watch. All right. Let's do suicidal. Yeah. You gotta watch out for me. Let's see some questions. Are you ready? I am. Yeah. Definitely. Okay. First question from our discord channel comes from your boy garp, he says should there be a mass exodus in Barka if so which ones should go coach included so Logan. Gophers coach definitely gone. I think somebody they could bring in for coach. Why can I think of his name head? Yeah. I think he's got I think they should bring into events as manager whose name I can't think of right now. But he's my really good for them. They just. Yeah. Yeah. I think are the Lakers manager. I think is his his results of the Champions League. Don't really say that. But I think he's a really good manager the way he's able to change his styles and play I mean events is have one I think what seven or eight straight titles Syria out, which I mean serious becoming farmers league. Now, low key, but AC still really good manager. And I think he'll be better than Valverde, and you can't really get much better than him right now in the in the in the market because I think event is are also probably looking to separate from him. We know Conti right now is being linked to enter. But if he does go to enter there's a high chance that you could go to events and replace again and replace a likely, so I think that something that could happen. I think they need to get rid of Suarez probably because he's aging out. I'm a big fan of selling players before they age out. So you can make money off them while you can't. And I think they should bring in. Instead of him is a guy who almost beat Chelsea a guy by the name of Luca Yovich. He is distracted for Frankfurt. He is. I think Serbian, hey Servian. He was actually younger than I am. He's born in ninety seven. So he's twenty Christ twenty one years old, and he has lit the fucking Bundesliga up this year. He is a phenomenal phenomenal player. He's already putting up to goal numbers. His ex g especially which is kind of like it's a stat. People used to determine how many goals you're expected to score a game based on the chances. You get in how good those chances are as expected to score our goal every other game for a twenty one year old stronger. That's phenomenal. Especially in the Bundesliga, which is a pretty defensive heavy league and playing for Frankfurt, which isn't a very very creative team him for Barcelona. He would explode. He is a phenomenal player. I and I didn't think the aching get them for probably not a lot fifty sixty mill. Something like that. Which of course is a lot. But for just Mark caliber his caliber in his age would be would be just amazing for them going forward or or you keep Suarez sell next year in have him learn underscores, I think would probably be better. Now, I think about it. I think they I think that you're at a casino 'cause I still you can make a good bit of money back on. You're not gonna make your money back. The next year. He wants to buy deliverable fuck that we use that money that we got rid of him. Very, well, we don't really wanna back 'cause he's probably gonna so cost seventy seventy five mil. So they Iran a ham. And I think they gotta they gotta buy some center bags and probably get rid of Malcolm. 'cause I don't think he's really working for them. Dim bellies really proven the last night the last half the season that he is just better age younger. So I think they're going to keep him going forward. And yeah, they just need some health some help when messy because has been carrying the team for way too long. They I think he's scored fifty goals again this season. Like he can't keep doing that forever. You know, Raga tissues getting older, they need some better creative midfielders that team just needs a lot of work. But when every pocketbook as deep as Barcelona that can that can go pretty well. Because I think they're only touchable is actually funny to our Bessie probably. Belly? And again, I think that's it. I think everybody else they could release replace herself. I really do because they've just not been up to par or they're just declining age. Yeah. I think Katina was kind of like Paul Bo where they're kind of luxury players give you have them. They're nice, but they're not going to lead a team. So that's just that's, you know, nothing against Paul work. Absolutely. Like top twenty top twenty players phenomenal. In terms of where the are by think, they're not going to be like the leaders you need in order to, you know, get to the final leg win that championship. And I'm not trying to be a hater. That's just my personal opinion as a hater. So I. I'm not a hater. But I'm currently hating, and I wanna Rubik double back on on Yovich in this year in abundance scored seventeen goals has five assists in the euro Balik. He has ten goals. So it's twenty seven goals. All competitions a twenty one year old phenomenal stats Barscelona should pick him up. I've also heard rumors of deba-, I think would be a really interesting pickup for Barscelona would be Sante. I think if they could somehow were score Sante because he's been like in a now of the man city's squad to Real Madrid to write recently Graham. I want to get him. If they can't get has. But I think would be way too expensive in because he because he's going to be a lot of money. Yeah. Playing he's gonna be expensive. His ceiling is economical. All right. Let's move on to the next question. Same by you, boy, garf- he says if Harry Kane is healthy. Should he start in the final we touched upon this a little bit? But what do you think? Yeah. Evie southie? Of course, he sees your best player you have to play your best players if they can play. If you d you gotta plan. You just have to do it. I I t's too good for that team. He's too integral attack. Yeah. I think if you have Harry hurricane, and you think he's healthy. Definitely play him. I'm sorry. I got really pissed so we're going to fast forward through this to the last question. I just came back from dollar oil stirs and happy hour, so I've been drinking like a fish Liden grandbaby. Let's go. All right last question comes from Kranj is Mick basketball. He says, what do you think the greatest robbery rivalry slash Darby? In the world is of this is easy on Vinnie. It's I think it's parcel on a Real Madrid. Madrid? That's pretty easy. It's the one that's the most historical. It means the most to both of those teams that prima soul country. Honestly like that means the most in the problem. That's what I shall know. Historically, probably Liverpool United when it comes to help. When it comes to like how far back the Mavericks spent. But I don't I don't know. That's a good question because you know, Spurs Arcelor there's like six London Darby's now. Spurs Spurs arsenals a really good one Yossi having a city in United Manchester Darby at the big one. So yeah. I mean, you had the north London Dr Tottenham arsenal go way back. And I think it's very interesting. I think Barcelona Real Madrid for me though, because you had to the best players going head to head messy and Renaldo in their prime going head to head twice a year. Yeah. Determining LA Lita on the two biggest clubs in the world. I think you can't beat that. I mean showed I'll to the classical of Byron of I was gonna say that with Dortmund. You are the Milan Darby ACN inter but in the past like five even ten years as kinda fallen off. Yeah. The only time the the the the one. The bundling was big wasn't Klopp was meant them but ever since that hasn't really been that much. I mean, I mean Byron killed in this year like five dollars that and insert a see I've been shell of what they were ten years ago. So it's not as inter- tanning, but they're still historically great Darby's, but I think the Real Madrid and Barcelona will be sorely forever. And. There probably won't ever be a time. Where both were both of those teams are like not good yards gonna have at least one or two. That are good in. It means so much in Spain for bragging rights as well. All right. Well, logan. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Thanks correcting, the discord channel if you wanna do a quick shout out where people can find you. And, you know, check out your stuff just go right ahead. Yeah. My Twitter is at a smitty boy as I t y the ally eight three threes. That's really all. I'm on. I'm on Twitter. Tweet a lot is kind of a tweet says I find funny, and yeah, just it'd be more important. If you hop on the discord that the discord link after this Cavill, probably tweeted out, if you wanna go to the Twitter, probably Facebook, all that stuff. Put it out there be out of that. I don't really have anything else. Same. Thanks for having me on. This is kind of fun. It was a blast last time. Plastic I love chat about the beautiful game to really whoever. So. Yeah. And I hope to see a lot of new people in the discord so download the app. It's free discourse really easy to use to a lot of people. It's really synonymous with PC people. So I think some people might be scared. They might not know how to work it. But it's really really straightforward. It's a really really easy. So yeah, come join us in the discord have fun. Yeah. No. It's a lot of fun. And yeah, Logan. Thanks so much. Like, I like, you know, I was like, you know, struggling I was about the do this show by myself. But we were talking before the show started like how hard it is to do a solo podcast where it's like, you're doing jokes. And you have no one to bounce off of funny. It's like, I don't know. I hope. Everybody off right. You there? Oh, you're not. You're not there and talking to myself. All right. We'll Logan shake it easy. Thank you again. And hope to have you on again. Sounds good. Some.

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And at quarter to five, I had the gentleman I was a third, maybe a half of the way down, and I was as drunk as a skunk and Jonathan had to order lottery bridge for me in order to save me up and we went around, so I can't seem remember. We went into a bar with those details on the ceiling. That's my only memory off that time, but that wasn't so much. The drink that was more the experience in the company, my best part like. So many I remember that. No, no, no, no, no by definition. They can't be so many best Pineau. Superlative adjective, so you either have one best pint or have better pines top-five member took me for me. I Pine Age twelve. No I was fifteen actually so still illegal it was. It was in the coach Analysis Burnley. Against before the match. WHO. Who You plant? Who Will Burnley playing? I think it might have been written by making that up I remember been to before the matrimony Chivas. Doing some filming and writing and they put me in a hotel which generates you walked in, said welcome to reading second-best hotel like it'd be alright. Went New York second-best. I'll tell you. If done right here with respect to reading. I mean it's not it's not. Anyway that's my way, mattresses, pipes and wherever. We spent way. Monkey needs his challenger I'm saying I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING MY A. Whereas we fucking charger. Builder whereas Macharqa Willie. We're doesn't poke and staff. Some. Enough thing I've noticed on on your social media this week. You tweeted a screen shot of a conversation you me and the producer where we're having in the top left of your fatal graph. It showed you had seventy four unread. WHATSAPP messages yeah, Seventy Four. Yet I'm not in many. What's out? Grapes either I've got coppola stack ones. So. Yeah, it's the that is. How did you? How does that make you feel? Jewish. But if you don't with them as they came in, and also what stank is me? Is that you are boy. That is never off your fan. It's not like you go I will go. My phone wants an hour. You are constantly on your phone, but yet you can't deal with them. I think I. Need to be or PA. What we'll do is when we get together. You can hand me or phone and I will personally go through each of those messages. And either respond to them, saying thanks coach, interested or Cenex week or just unread them. That's why don't you? You'll be comfortable doing this. I liked the idea of a P. Air couldn't afford them. I probably could afford it if I could afford as wages, but and be I don't let the idea of people hate people being on my phone, but white. Why at? See nothing to hide i. just feel like your phones like diaries and. You know I've got on the radio ideas in their own I'm not interested in those I. Mean neither of the audience, but I'm not interested in those, so we're. I don't know I. Just I really don't like the Ford people being on before. I I'll help I'll help at seventy four zero. I'll see how many is now. Let me just go. Yeah but you. It's up because of of not been replying today. Seven eight of the moment. That is disgusting I mean I, do I'm so bad. Free and it's pitch. And Yeah. So a of not replied to so easy mess milk May. I mean. That's also she doesn't speak only. look me on. A pitch looks well. The one with the smaller swimming pool than your mother now she's got biggest. When pull them. In has the biggest swimming pool. Oh my God. I wasn't moment. Live in Spain now. And that's the thing, so oh, no, no, yeah, you're right, right? I feel like I'm talking in this episode. Can you say something now? Hell into words, ain't. Drinking again I feel like of talk to do. I talk too much Yes, I, think Jordan. Of course an idea, okay? Forearm newly launched bonus episodes. which may or may not have been the source of disagreement? We were having the stars. Why don't we if I mean you've got nothing on? Have you busy? Ben's not designed. Let's all me chop. We can now have socially distance rendezvous in a park. Oh. Yes, whereas previously you and I would have kept six inches between each other and park now it's two maces. Of Click to. Hey thanks. Just. Because that's good, because actually I've got a bone to pick with Ben, so we should meet in the park and do this reading. What's the bone? It's to do with his over half. Right basically she'd text into my show this way you can passive aggressive attacks. Earth you see this is why like? Something in common so I was at last weekend. Did you know what to do. Yes I text into the studio that said. Shout, out my beautiful boyfriend Ben. He's so made us this by the way. So as Phone on time. She was typing it and he was on. He was on a lap cat. He's Astros and he was going. Please wait beautiful boyfriend Ben. Coming out of my boyfriend, Ben! He needs perking up after a long week. Working with two guys who are always hard work I love the sound of their voices from cats. That's quite true this week. texting to the show to say that, and did you read announced? I didn't. Think, we should talk about this in person. It's not okay. To. These days months. Human-to-human I actually think was made in the park. Good Laugh. I'd love to see a really. Would all text you the details of this okay? K- I feel like I talked too much to don't want us out anything to tell us about you this week. I feel quite a quantum boring. We just looked at marymount lovely new wardrobes. Jamal Venus. Very organized clothing. Okay it's time for Georgia's joke the week. Cut Me. Feller Abreu made an ova. And they go to the Lake district so that we can I'll tell you the punchline after the break. Visit Company Fella a fella and a Nova and the goats at a late district for the weekend with the wives, and it gets to Friday and the wives Khanum. A big meal. Normative. How hetero normative they were swapping in terms that the men we're GONNA make the meal on the Saturday the Mail on the Friday Brian Okay right just let's make it twenty twenty. So? The FELLAS, all of them go out on a on a Friday night and get. Absolutely, love it. So! They missed the. The wake up on Saturday morning and they're all doghouse. In Shit, so they come down. Tails between likes another wife speaking of so they sat round breakfast table and caught the Fella says. Also this. Worry. Face! That told me that's hiding needs to ten next week. Which is talk about your life? It's fine. I'm going to go off with the ball so I'll say stem. Company. Fella says don't worry also always say look at his wife and he says. We pass the sugar. She'll. And she gives him. A little smile brings sugar over. Gives him a little squeeze on the shoulder and me. FELLAS light. I, get what you doing. Hey, look at. Their. We possibly the holiday horny. She gives him a little smile. Roller is brings Honiara Novas like shit at least to. Looks at his wife, he says. We must be the milky. CAL It was social for. You. Know not raining. How'd you blind my new speech? Laughing really, had very strong genetic. Okay! Our first problem comes from Danny. Greetings William and Jordan greeted Leslie I would like to say how much I love the ball. However I need some. Help I have a major crush on a work friend of mine, but I don't know if he's into guys, however me and my friends. He means my friends and I have noticed he definitely flaps with me a lot, but not knowing if he likes guy. But knowing if he likes guys, makes it really quick to junk, okay? My friends have definitely picked up on the tension between us, but none of us have told him how I feel. What do I do, and how do I go about pursuing this as we work together? I'm really worried that he will find out and freak. Help love you guys so much and still hunting for deboning Danny. Dot severely sweet question I have been on the end of this in in my work I record a podcast and. The Co host of the PODCAST. Or contributor the contribute to the podcast after fell the Irish, giving him certain vibes. Joking. This is quite. A few friends about this before, and it's the whole is a. Light. East twenty twenty ECOMOG around. We offer him out for a drink. Just say let's go for a drink. Make sure you know it's just you and don't say the word date because I'll freaking out. GEICO pints name hill opened up so to speak. Things across. That just saying Williams face. And, then you'll, you'll get. You'll know where you'll know. Where so game out nothing wrong when all this is over. Coffee drinks socially distance walk and see where you're and after a few drinks she'll. You'll be able to judge the situation choice you could. You could get one of your female calling. Just ask him no, because he might be my not not not. Would you like to go on a date with Danny or anything like that, but you could just get the female. To lay a few ground lay the ground of foundations are back. William Day this, even in the workplace can still revert Ta five and get you to just go up to him and blight Danny fantasia. The fence. What are you wouldn't go up to the heat? have to zoom call now. Do you remember the five light? You got. Don't hold in Nova. Girl's hand and you make dumpling for Ya. Reading. Didn't we too busy sub-contracting? Roman shields time demand. See at the sewed eleven four good knowledge. Very. was called. HELP NOT GONNA go up. Our next question is from Tony and his Tony with an is so. That's a female town I don't know. Now they've also put for Clara. Shampoo Girl Boston. I do know that dear, William and Jordan thank you for providing laughs during lockdown. It's very much appreciated by my sanity. I have a dilemma over the decade of flirtatious friendship and one too many drunken flings. We've decided to get a bit more serious, so this is like Danny in a couple of days. However, there's a huge obstacle in the way there's. I can't seem to get past won't. We support different. We support different football teams, and it's a big deal. I'm lead united, and he's Manchester Oh God. How can I possibly introduce him to my family? I was just thinking the same thing. Tony I was just thinking the same thing who are children support not a chance in hell. I'd ever met them. Step Foot in Trafford I'm jumping the gun, but I know this is important. Can we ever be serious relationship? Should we remain friends? I'm thinking. It's a deal breaker. My loyalty is to my football club. Please help Tony. Before you do your bit. Say Is Tony. When you die single in the alone look back to this message right no Tony this of Tony. This is a really serious issue. Some people will say to you don't so streep, and it's only football. It's only again correct. Those people need slap in the face. This is serious issue. My cousin our late. Okay they, we go jokes. Our lay off of the one that sends me. Jokes goes out with lovely Joanne actually. Side note with relations are the haves in the north. You call them our. Actual blood to our. Usually blood, but if you've been married for a few years of only start saying our kate. Kate broke his wife. No, not the dodgers Cambridge though so our. and. Our lead. Would you say, Joann. I'd say your John. Right so. If I was talking about your proof Abaco. At say. I'd say your James. Or just James Seriously like people think you're stupid. I don't. I want combat. When I leave buckled. I want coming. Up In town to do some shopping and I've just say Brunson town and went brats I would just say bulletin town Brads. Brad. Youngest son our. Oh our Brad swatting! Aside you. That's why you've got to say seriously. Anyway. said to me on call. I went whereas Lee went south awakened. No our. Always always way. Honestly ask at promise you. Actually happened. From issue I, said three and Cobra. Lay South of WACO. Our our late, you had always parking now. Straight is. I don't off shop so shy do. Anyway right. So. If anyone's still listening to this. Then sank you. It's anyone from the south still listening to this. Tony just. Let me give my advice Jordan. It's just give them a break from your your tones. I would urge grow up to be perfectly honest football team. Just get over yourself, or maybe there's a team of you, i. what you said, maybe there's a Leeds. United, dating website. You can only date people. Support Leeds United's. Told A is a very serious issue however. I is and people will will out to be some kind of. What I'm looking for here. Witness. elderberry the reality. Yeah, they'll make it to be trivia. I know many people that go out with people from rival football clubs after a May. Use a pick. And is. A Liverpool Fan and his a Liverpool fan and things like that, so don't worry. You can still go out of each of scar, a mutual agreement that. When you play each over, you don't stay in the same aisle. She separate for a week or so and when it comes to Kate, you let the child decide. That's the only you've got to let the child decide you. You've got to child. Goto Old Trafford and go to Ellen, road and then when the child's about fourteen fifteen. They've got to decide Okay Yeah That's true for so many things about the child's decision in future life, not this December two thousand fourteen I think it was two thousand and Sixteen Preston North. End Be to Nila old. Our Lee said to me I'm not going onto. Tonight stayed at mine that weekend. Saito a SOFA so I'm not going to give him me so there. You go our final problem, thank heavens is from Charlotte. Hello Boys. My problem is a bitterness and she can't a bit more personal a hoop that still right view. I'm an old woman these days that she to. Out. Cling and having had was. I'm going to politely call a rough time in life so far I'm going through a long dark time of my soul, and I'm hoping to come out the other side at some point in the nearish future. To put it bluntly, it's me more accurately. It's me accepting me accepting the fact that no matter how many times I look in the mirror I can't help but be disappointed with what I see. I'm afraid to describe to you what I looked like. In case. When it comes to it, you'll believe like I do. There's I'm not worthy of any kindness or if. As I am. It's not necessarily the way I look I do know this. It's who I am, but the way I look currently allows me to tell myself. It's at least part down to that. I'm undeserving of acceptance I'm trying to give myself. I'm rubenesque I've got about catch and thanks to an unusual boundary illness when I was younger. There's a scar around forty centimeters long running all the way down my stomach. I've been trying to work on liking myself or at least being peace with myself after some very difficult experiences. But I'm struggling. I want to be able to embrace myself as I am and I. Know it'll take time. But I suppose I'm asking advice from you, too. About how you've come to accept yourselves as you are. I know we all come into adulthood with our fash. Our of ideas about who are we should and shouldn't be and I'm grateful for you taking the time to read this, take care. Charlotte. I want to give us a big HUNK, so do I. John Lewis if you ever come to one of our live shows, please come and tell us who you because we want to give you a hug Chara. I'll be honest. Slightly, notch me. We normally deal with. Stupid problems like being people can't get over another football team. And that sort of thing, but that's actually deeply moving and there there's a lot going on there and the. There really is someone for everybody. If you're worried about, you know some people don't really care about the coupling playing others of the do. If if you're worried about that side of things, I would almost stop looking for for love because actually when I stopped taking it came. And if a silently overweight balding etiquette expert in his thirties can find someone to be in a relationship with you can, too. Because on paper I shouldn't really be with anybody so I wouldn't worry about that side of things and. No says the things that you feel are a insecurity or something that is not attractive, is subjective and to somebody it might it might be to others. It's not blonde hair. Some people like dark hair. Other people like it doesn't mean to say that you need to think that that is. Something that people will judge you on. And actually you could also argue that until you learn to love yourself. No one else will will necessarily love you and there is a lot. There is a lot that you can love and you've. You've written a very sensitive. Intelligent letter to us, those are two very attractive policies. Definitely articulated elated dot very well. I'm pretty show that when you look in the mirror. You'll see the West and yourself and people will put this all the time, friends and family. It will be nowhere. As bad as what you think and I think you probably need to hit a few more times and it's never. A bad thing to hit up. Pre show is nowhere near as bad as what you think shallow. Ask how we came to accept who we are to be perfectly honest, look. I'm fairly comfortable with WHO I. AM happening for a long time, but I can remember at school up until. Six. Just before six form. You try to pretend. You're someone who oversee for me. That was that was my sexuality as well and you, you panic. That Oh gosh people won't accept me if I if I come out like this or if I have these opinions I have or if I like. Things being nicely polished and well sense. That's not that's not the norm and actually what I have come to learn. Is that actually people? Generally do respect you for having your opinion as long as. You're willing to accept that there are other opinions, and you may not be fully correct, but actually people admire someone that's able to sort of put their head above the parapet and say Yep, this is this is what I believe in I've got my dentist fine. If you don't want to believe that, but I do and I'd like to respect that since I came to that, too. Many life by launch has been fine. Lovely words Hudson Charlotte. Get back in search of as plays we will. Love to stay in contact with your so please get back in touch with us after this episode. If like any of our correspondents this week, you would like our help. Please go short websites contact details of their sex in my boss, DOT COM and don't forget bonus episode, which is out on Friday and you can hear all about our socially distance. Meet Up. I gotTA GO MAKE MIKEY'S T. 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Caught Offside: Looking out for one another

Caught Offside

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Caught Offside: Looking out for one another

"Caught offside with every Gumbo and JJ Davani. Yes offside from the upper west side of Manhattan and from a little apartment in Brooklyn. It's called upside. What's up brother? Andrew? How are you? I'm doing well? I'm feeling good important in these times. I hope you are the same. I hope everybody out there. Listening is the same. How are you man? You know? Entire fight under same as everybody else. I'm beginning to get cabin fever pretty much in isolation here on over the last. Few Days I I had these grandiose ideas of men you being in studio together Look if we're GONNA do this properly. We have to do it as as a collective and that's just not responsible right now so here. I am an apartment in Brooklyn with a resentful cash. Resentful of you yeah. My cat is a year old CALICO on anyone who knows anything about the CALICO breed. They love to play and so she looks at me with with bitterness. When I don't I'm not playing with her. Oh I thought it was going to go. The other thought cats generally prefer solitude and your cat is resentful that you are encroaching on her alone time. No this one wants to play. That's it on. That is an endearing quality. But like there's only so much cap play. I can do day as you as you know. Yeah I picture you pauling at some kind of fake mouse over room. Hey Mom these are strange times. I Will Paul at fake mice just to get through the kind of at the top of this podcast. That these are I. You've heard the sentence of a million times in the last week but these are strange times and I think that we're I think one thing that I'm we're all figuring this out as we go No one has been in a situation like this before and certainly the we as as human society have not gone through this together before and we are all doing that now and I think we're all I think we're all discovering that this is hitting everybody in different ways and I think it's just important that we all kind of take care of each other in these moments and I don't just mean that from the perspective of stop gathering enlarge places these videos. I'm seeing of people at beaches in Florida. Who JUST WANNA party like? Please stop doing that. I don't just mean that. That's the obvious. Take care of each other. That's the obvious of like keeping people alive like I. I would hope that. That's the bare minimum of what people are willing to do. I'm talking about taking care of each other From almost more of a mental perspective like I have found just with myself and my wife like there are moments where like the realness of the situation. hits her and hits her heart and like that's when it's I feel like it's incumbent upon me to then kind of like help boost her in some way and then there's moments were like I'll be good good good and then like the realness you read something on twitter and the real hits you and that's where like people who really know you and know your personality like just be on the lookout for how your friends and family are acting just in the in the limited interaction you may have with them over the phone on facetime texting whatever and just try to recognize when when people you care about maybe down and send them you know a funny rex. Chapman video or a podcast that you like or a recommendation of a funny show on Netflix. Just we all need to help each other through this. Because it's not going to be easy and it's going to take a long time and you know relationships. Human interaction is important now more than ever and we just need to be careful and watch out for one another. I think it's important that we all kind of keep that in mind as we go through this. Yeah and I think speaking to this country that we're broadcasting from we. We talk a lot in this country. Maybe me and you don't but a lot of people do talk about patriotism and what it is to mean what it means to be an American and now in the simplest way we can all look after each other. We don't have to go to war we don't have to you know Pledge Allegiance to anything we can look after each other in in very simple ways like you said standing contact with people. We've got more technology than we've ever had By being responsible at there's there's lots of ways we can look after each other right now and And that's the stuff on like I'm trying to focus on it. Honestly destroy go man. My girlfriend will tell you. She's in the apartment with me and we'd be together know for how long trapped in this this apartments. I trapped and it's not that I don't love her or anything but like I'm locked in my own head with this stuff. I know I know this this podcast. Today is like this beacon. In the week I mean people are people being really sweet on social media contacting us and saying someone said this morning. I can't remember who it was. They tweeted US instead. Just to just to have a taste of normality. Hearing your voice will be grit on. I thought that's amazing but I can tell you what this is doing for me from a mental health perspective. I know it's it's crazy. We're all adjusting to a new normal. Which kind of leads me to a couple observations. That I've had over the course of this of since this crisis really began. It's a few things first of all the one This offense to dentist but the one positive. Collateral Damage here is that my dentist appointment was cancelled today and for anyone who knows me. I just hate the dentist. 'cause I had an awful experience as a child The first appointment was beaten by dentists and So I've I've been scarred since Let's not go into this story because of the legal ramification mentioning any names. But it's a thing that happened So My dentist appointments canceled today and I kind of gave myself a sandwich. Yes all right. Got Out of that but a couple of other things that I've noticed so obviously we're not supposed to be shaking hands with anybody. Fine that's easy enough to do what I can't for the life of me understand. Is that so now? People feel the need that because we're not allowed to shake hands while we have to do something so let's bump elbows or kick feet and I'm just looking at people saying why can't we just say. Hi Why does there have to be some physical interaction in some way to signify me seeing you just say? Hey what's up late? I don't get that. What is within people that like? You'd need to like bump elbows with another person like let's just say hi and look at each other. There are no there's no rainbow. There's no bright side to this horrendous pandemic but if there was to be one it's that Andrew Bundling and Larry David will get their wish that there shall be no more social pleasantries. No no no. Don't be like that. I'm look. I'm a great hand Shaker. I'm a big high fiber. You know when time when in times of wellness but like we're not in one of those times right now. So why does there have to still be something to replace physical contact? There doesn't need to. That's what I'm saying. I don't paint me as some kind of person who per someone extends their hand and I. I run to a corner like that. That's not that's not factual at all and then human interaction. You're a liar. And you paid this false image of me and then the other thing. Jj which really. I like you talk about the mental adjustment of kind of collapsing to within this new normal It's funny how quickly your brain adapts to a new situation for example. I'm sitting at my desk yesterday at work and I'm just going about my job at I'm just slipped. Kinda like lost within what I'm doing and within this new reality and I look up there's a TV screen right above my desk and on it. It's on sportscenter and you know how like when there's breaking news on the bottom line of sports entered flashes red. I see it flash red. I look up and it's the announcement of the two thousand twenty European Championships in Copa America have been cancelled and I kind of look at it I think. Oh Yeah I mean saw common and then I just put my head back down and continue going about my work and it was at about that point that six months ago me popped into my head and went what that just happened. But the euro's and Copa America. Were just cancelled. And you're not even reacting. That's where we are like. That's how crazy. There's there's we're in a place now where like. There's nothing so crazy anymore that I could see that it will phase me like all of these things. The the level of breaking news stories that have occurred in the last week are so beyond the realm of what we could comprehend even two weeks ago. That nothing fazes anymore. It's insanity under growing up. I've often said this on the podcast growing up. I used to be able to live. My life are parcel out the years of my life as I got older in terms of ornaments so euro. Two thousand you know was my like second last year my penultimate year in high school and You know euro two thousand one floor. Was you know the year before I graduated? I saw you know I've always been able these tournaments have always been markers of you know certain moments in my life. The idea that a tournament is now can and will be pushed back to the year is absolutely mental. It's crazy and just like you when I saw it. I thought well that's the way it's gotta be right. I can't believe the mental kind of adjustments where we're having to make a boy the way I can I can I say something of a major tournament is huge and a seismic thing for the sport? But there's some people on twitter and they need to stop. We've being just one weekend without football just one weekend. I seen someone right They tweeted this. And this is one of those which gives me and you like a collective joint cringe thereof. Heart Hurts for the sport I love. I'm like come on to like seriously like I am. I am in the midst of this terrible pandemic wherein thinking about family and I'm thinking about people you know dying and all this. I can go weekend without sport. Is it weird? Yeah is it a grit distraction? Yeah get it I totally do. But there's people who are. I almost feel like they`re. They're emoting deliberately moving on twitter. How much they they miss sport in some kind of mad competition for who misses it. The Mole Yeah. Well look that silliness but that actually kind of brings us. That's a good segue. Jj into sort of some of the stuff. I want to talk about today. Which and I do promise later in the podcast. We're going to introduce an idea for you. Guys that I think will incoming weeks bring some real needed fun To this show in the in the absence of actual games But we are GonNa talk about all of these various cancellations of of major competitions in the soccer universe and just like what it means and kind of throw our like half baked ideas out there as to what they should do when play resumes. But what you're talking about there with people really kind of like Jonesing for soccer and missing it I have been thinking about that a little bit because I was thinking about something that I said on last week's podcast where I kind of I don't know I still. I still feel this way but I kind of felt bad afterwards where I almost felt like I was scolding people who were like upset about something as trivial as sports in a time. Where like a lot like a lot? A huge number of lives are at stake in an unprecedented situation. I kind of felt a little bit bad after that because like look it's silly but this is a thing that we like you and I we care so much about this. We've actually made it our lives and our jobs like sports do matter and if and I do want to say that if you are somebody who's missing it or is are upset. That like things aren't going to conclude the way you want it to like. I do think that's okay to tell me what you think about this. Because you're the right guy to talk to because you're a Liverpool Fan In two thousand eight I had never as Philadelphian. I was born in Nineteen eighty-four my last the last championship. The city Philadelphia was in nineteen eighty. Three with the sixers. So I I had not lived to see a Philadelphia title And the Phillies were in the World Series. And they had a three games to one lead best seven and they're leading in the fifth inning of of game five with a chance to win and all the sudden the skies opened up and it started to absolutely poor And while that happened the Tampa Bay rays scored twice tied the game and then play was stopped And there was all this talk about whether or not it was handled the right way and I remember thinking like there was some Philadelphians. Were Mad that they allow that baseball loud. The raise to tie the game and then they stopped it and there was some fans thinking like no like this game should have been halted when the skies opened up and it poured in the phillies were leading and like turn out. The game was delayed for two days and finally they resume the last three and a half innings on on a couple of days later and I remember thinking for the fans out there of the phillies that actually wanted to win. A title in a rain shortened game. Like I dunno for me that just that would have felt empty in terms of like the way to get my first championship. And so I've been thinking about that and sure enough. They resumed a few days later and it was really kind of a cool finish and they want anyway but I've been thinking about that for how a Liverpool fan must feel right now because this is the thing that Liverpool fans many of whom like your age. Who weren't really like you. You may have been alive for their last league title but like not not conscious of it really So there's a huge generation multiple generations. Even that hadn't seen this before and we know what it means to this club to to have domestic success and I just am wondering how Liverpool fans are kind of dealing with the idea of either a in this year where they're appearing to be one of the greatest teams in the history of this league. They're not going to be crowned champions because the League is just GonNa be nullified or be. They may be handed. A title in a in a shortened season. That's just clouded now with all this negativities in a season with that won't kind of be remembered anymore for their success and I'm just I'm just sort of wondering how a Liverpool Fan is coping with that I I would hate to speak for all Liverpool fans right now I would say. The consensus is the most of the roof lines. Hope that there is a chance that we get back to playing in. May May are June that that kind of that kind of region that they want the trophy one after a game Andrew They don't really want it. Lifted in a boardroom are handed it to us in a boardroom. That's what I would say. John Aldridge ex Liverpool player. And he was at the claw the last time we want. And he's been talking about that. You know all the primarily they just have to hand over the trophy now that it's as simple as that you know they're twenty five points clearer whatever it is you know but honestly Liverpool fans would like this to be Played Out on the field and finished on the field. And we're hoping that's what's going to happen. Well I mean I don't know I'm you know me. Sometimes I lean negative I'm I'm growing increasingly wary of the idea that this season is going to be able to resume. Well here's here's one of the problems. The reaction of the British government's Chew Corona virus is markedly different from many of the other countries including my own country the Republic of Ireland which is trying to go into some kind of a a shook down south of the border at least not in Northern Ireland. I mean the schools are still open. It's insane On so that is going to have a impact on when this this competition when the premier league what happens to the premier league this season People are still talking about all. Well you know if we will probably be able to go back at the end of May or June. You don't know that and I don't know that and so I mean if it's a case that look the season's stocked and Liverpool declared champions. I you see. I don't anonymously from what I've read an another fans that I spoke to. Nobody really has an issue with saying. Hey look if we stopped the season now we give Liverpool the title. That's fine. I mean they don't really have an issue with that because because of how far ahead Liverpool of being the Rim Problem Andrew is like the European places and relegation that is still an absolute Fox. Let's let's say we'll get to that in one sec because I I do want to stay with the idea of Liverpool for one second. And then you're right. The relegation and European places is the the area of total murkiness The one thing with the Liverpool thing that I wanted to mention like there's two people in general that I was I was reading about that. I just I kind of want to say. Shame on them. Karren Brady of of West Ham And also Tony Adams so I with Brady. I mean look. She's hugely biased hugely biased. In in this situation calling for the season to be nullified I mean like we can Karen we can all see why you think that maybe she can say like no. No no even if we were first in the League. I would feel that the season should be nullified but like I'm sorry you're just not the right person to be voiced that opinion right now because it trivializes the entire situation so like I mean like Karren Brady singlets nullify i. I feel like it's like a five foot five. Two Hundred Twelve two hundred twenty pound kid in like a basketball tryout trying to convince the coach no no no no more cuts. Let's just go with what we've got here early like stop it? We see what's happening here and with Tony Adams. He basically said that you cannot hand the trophy to Liverpool. If season is not completed like he's going with the the utmost literal -ness of the situation and I understand that but Kinda with regards to that I would say that like this whole thing is unprecedented so sometimes I kind of think that it's fair to meet unprecedented circumstances with unprecedented action. And I really think that like we need to just apply common sense Liverpool or are the champions like they're going to win the league and I and I think they kind of deserve to be held in that regard. If if game ever played again from the season I still think that record books should reflect that the that Liverpool were champions of England this season. I think that's wrong for him. To say season wasn't completed. No trophy can be handed out. I just we. I think it's fair to apply common sense here Absolutely and I I struggle with this conversation. You know the way. The podcast is struggled so much. What making predictions because of all the variables and I just can't trust myself. Look at this. I have no freaking clue what's going to happen here none whatsoever and I may have to just get my head around the fact that Liverpool will be crowned champions and it won't be done on the pitch it won't be done at Goodison Park it won't be done at home to Crystal Palace that that's all gone the season's over now and that's that uncaring karren. Brady as well. I think. I think it's worth noting kind. Brady's opinions Are paid for by the Sun newspaper. You know that is an important thing to realize as well not only not only was the self interest coming from the fact that she is the CEO of a of a football that would benefit greatly from the season being voided. She also being paid by the newspaper for these opinions. And I guarantee you. That the the amount of clicks online that the Sun newspaper of got for this Well THERE WE GO I. I don't think I need to say. Unfortunately it's probably worth what they paid for. Because they probably have gotten a ton of clicks which is anyway but yeah. It's carry Karren Brady. That was that was self interested and pretty craven the her. Yeah for me. Though what you mentioned we can talk about European places also a not. Not Quite as worried about that to me. The big thing is is Karen. Brady's talking about and that's relegation just because the stakes for that are just so high and it's so close right now And I feel like that more than anything In this situation needs to be treated with the utmost fairness because like the damage that can be caused to a club Who are sent down is unknown. And so like that's like the integrity of that to me matters almost more than even the title itself So like I'm open to any and all ideas on how this one gets handled because I don't get and again if you're a West Ham. United considering their history in issues of relegation. I'd be keeping my mouth shut you. You've got to remember what happened. When they had to legally registered players and have a Maschera no and Carlos Perez tavist scoring a goal at Old Trafford to win a game to keep them up and that relegated at who was at the time I think it was Charleston Chaffee United. You know so one of whom has never bounced back and the other one only got back this year right so. I find find West Ham United. I'm just like you know. Read the room guys. Keep quiet what do you think about So all right. It's idea time like there are not wearing a safe space. Now you and I. There are no bad ideas. Okay don't make fun of any of these. What do you think about an idea of maybe playing next season with twenty three? Epl clubs don't send anyone down but still promote the top. Three will say from the championship. While I mean that's been looked at Andrew Darlene. That's apparently was reading on the on the Atlantic that That's one of the things under consideration. But then again you'd be going back to the Monster Premier League at the start Where were we were? We have all those additional teams I I really don't know I mean there's a good chance as early pointed out on his podcast that lead united will be the first team who get to defend their championship trophy. Like you talk about this feeling of just being cursed. I mean if you're a lead united found right now considering. The huge strides to cope is made in the last two seasons under bsn and considering the season they have had oh my God. Oh my God I mean again feel trivial considering everything that's going on a little we can look if you want we can sit here and qualify every single sentence with that comment like August all. This is dumb but people who are listening to this podcast. Right now obviously came here because they'd like soccer right so we have. We have to go under the assumption that this dumb things that were saying do matter took to some of the people listening so like yes all of this. We can qualify the entire podcast. None of this matters in a time like this but like people need something to write onto to keep them saying. Can I move this on a bit to the Champions League of course on Mark Ogden did a piece on? Espn FC which identifies key problem. He sees that He believes that the domestic seasons can be figured out but the Champions League in your Rolpa League rescehduling that could prove impossible. I'm one of the points he he he brings up this huge complicated on fraud and I have no answer. So don't even ask me. But at he makes the point that you with a source told. Espn that an obvious issue will be travel between countries if or win. Football resumes as every country in Europe is at a different stage of its own. Corona virus crisis will want to merge before the other and if so when its citizens be able to travel to a nation that is still wrestling with the pandemic if for instance Athletico Madrid drawn to play against rb. Leipzig will their players be allowed into Germany without entering a period of suffice elation? I'm will they be able to return to Spain without once again? Entering quarantine so as countries as some countries may be emerge out of this crisis before other countries do like. They're the huge disparity between what Britain is doing and what Ireland is doing. What Britain is doing and what France and Germany are doing right. That's just going to cause just so many questions as to how this competition can go ahead. I mean there there is a there as unpalatable as it is a real chance way ahead. I think of domestic competitions that the Champions League and Europa League will just scrapped. Yeah I was thinking that too. I've been I've been racking my brain because I read that same mark Ogden article and like know he brings up a good point. He said it's mid-march and Italy France. Norway and Spain are in lockdown the United Kingdom is also told its citizens to stay at home with those over seventy and other groups regarded as vulnerable to self isolate for a period of twelve weeks from this weekend so he said if that advice holds and people are forced to stay home for twelve weeks. It'll be mid-june before it's deemed safe to return to something approaching normality. The issues facing for a clear. Uefa may simply run out of TIME TO GET THEIR CLUB. Competitions up and running again never mind find a way for them to reach a conclusion but even if the crisis begins to ease their numerous other problems that must be resolved for the Champions League and Europa League to resume which is exactly what you just said the fact that these countries may not all emerge from this problem simultaneously like Italy may be locked in this issue longer than England or like so. Yeah I don't know I mean you could say just plan empty stadiums But pl- look at event is plasma. Tweedy was just the second event is player. Diagnosed WITH CORONA virus. Like Blair's could each other. It's not just about the people in the stands. No it's it's the guys who are in close contact to each other Glaze who are running round guys. Who were spitting on the field? You know it's not just about the guys in the stands and also these people have to go back into their communities after playing these games behind closed doors. I just I don't know yeah I mean I'm trying to I've been trying to think just like okay. Let's say let's say the best case scenario happens and it does become playable again once we get to like. I mean I don't know late June or something like that but like another one of the issues as do you know what happens. I'm trying I'm looking for the date here. Here's you know what is due to begin Jj On June twenty third. No the two thousand twenty two thousand twenty one champions league like the data that's when qualifying begins on next year's Champions League and we're talking about a situation with this quarantine potentially where we'll still be in this year's round of sixteen on June twenty third so like do you have any insane ideas for this. They've been talking about one leg ties They've been talking about trying to condense the tournament to like be played within the span of a couple like two weeks or so were just like like a mini tournament kind unto itself. Yeah the mini tournament option. Seems like the I hit. I hit saying why don't hit saying it will be incredibly fun. Yeah I also think that the day will probably if conditions are there for them to play I think they'll probably scrapped the home and away and they will have the one leg all the way and there's a larger issue Dole. You know that we're not that we're trying to skirt worked beautifully for. Mls Yeah Right. There's a larger issue as well about Tv deals and the final and the final is such having been to one. The final is such a kind of a fan based experience. Now are they tried to make it as much as they can? Although the price gouging and everything else that goes on. Maybe would suggest that. That's not actually the case. What would you want a champion of the Spectacle of Champions League final with no fans there? I mean I was mentally prepared for March madness to be played with no fans so I mean I'll get on board with it. You know a I think it could still be on your right. It will be lacking something of course but but that's another that's another mental these things is TV deals You know I suppose this is act of God kind of stuff on the contracts and the legalities of everything but you do know that like that is the really cynical sad part that if or when we get out of all this like the the money fight that's going to ensue over over like contracts and things like that and and like layoffs and all that like they're still an ugliness. That's that's coming to this that I think people haven't started thinking about yet because we're rightfully so still like thinking about everyone's health but you know you know the power of money and like A. I'm just like already dreading the court battles over all that kind of stuff. Yeah that is in the. That's in the works though. You know I've also been thinking about Mls because unlike these other competitions in Europe mls is just in its infancy. So I'm wondering of all the League's right now. This is probably the one where I think they`re. They'll show the most willingness to simply just scrap it because no one is like truly like there's no issue of unfairness like if Liverpool were robbed of a tunnel right now. Even the biggest Liverpool hater could look at and say Wolf. That's unfair because that team should have won a title. We're not there yet. An MLS but a habit thinking of just different ways if they wanted to do something. Like I don't know what if they just like? What if these cancellations they run all the way to like September And they WANNA remain on an MLS calendar. They don't WanNA switch over for a year to play on like the European calendar. I've I've been wondering. Could they do some kind of thrown together tournament where they just? Kinda like ranked everyone. Mls from what they were last year and just a massive tournament like the top three seeds from a year ago would have a buy and then you could just like play out and have like an end of the year kind of. I don't know if it'll ever be taken quite so seriously but people just might be craving soccer action so much I could see fan bases like going all in on just like a wild tournament to decide this year's champion again Andrew. It's all about What point we get back to soccer. At what point can we do that? And I'm again. I'm going by the most Conservatives are conservative but the most generous model say we get back to some kind of normality around June or July. Just slash those games off. You know there's only two games played in the League and go with. Just what like like twenty game season? Yes yeah do that like seriously and I regularly said on the podcast there's too many games and MLS anyway because there's too many games because too many clubs getting you know what I mean. There's so many games where you're like that doesn't really matter. We can afford to lose a few games because there's such a generous Entry Format for the playoff right. You're saying if they switch to like an NFL schedule like the League would be fine. It will be fine in fact it would be. It would have a heck of a lot more urgency. 'cause you'd have to you. The margin for error will be much less. Mls NOT You Know I. I don't plan molasses position. But because they've only got two games played. They're really not in the same kind of parallel as other leagues definitely Hundred percent true and then one other thing that I was thinking about too is the transfer window like what happens there. So I was reading Tour Christian Karlsson at ESPN and he's basically writing. That like this is going to be almost undoable This transfer window simply because scouts cannot travel like you cannot go to see other players even a now like there's not even games happening for for anyone to see but even once like games resume. Presumably it will be an empty stadiums. Where no one will be allowed to travel. There'll be like travel bans on countries. He said We'll see clubs looking at signing. This is his prediction. We'll see clubs looking at signing more players from their own domestic leagues rather than risking Forking out a fortune on a half scouted foreign option If so it'll be fascinating to see the potential effect on transfer fees. It's likely the prices will inflate to reflect the restricted lower risk local market not to mention clubs reluctance to sell to domestic rivals. As for those clubs that rely on developing and selling players to survive. How will they manage with a potential worldwide market suddenly closed off there aren't just like countless ripple effects from this that you we've only begun to consider? I think of advanced analytics and tape players is now going to become huge. Not that it wasn't huge already but I suppose that's alright saying that for top level players playing in in the top five leagues in Europe. But if you're looking for that kind of Emerging Player that goal contacted that ray admirers from the second tier of the French Leagues. You gotta go and see him play. There's not gonNA be huge amount of information on if you can't go to see him play than you're going to have to go with what you know and you're going to be trying to sign players. Who are already have a high profile. And that's GONNA cost more money. I think they have to just rely on like Fica like I remember Trying to remember now remember. Florent was at Florence Cinema. Pongal like I remember in in Fica. He's sensational for whatever reason and sounds like what I'm going to buy him for. Spurs in my In my career mode and he was he was phenomenal. I think he led my team in scoring. I think they'll just have to go with like relying on video game. Analytics always Championship manager which by the way we are going to see such a revival of championship manager dot is going to be amazing. In fact I'm going to try and get my hands on championship manager. Two Thousand and what was my favorite year? Two thousand two thousand and one But on championship manager there was always a player that was just. You know in relying like irrationally. Good irrationally go at right so this you care about but you were too good to stay in our fantasy. Soccer League Yeah Championship Manager. Toko let me tell you something. Don Is in college when championship manager had its heyday and there were guys who were absolutely addicted to it. In a way that genuine effort into their time and effort into their study time their social time. I ate a friend like fortnight. For soccer fans. Yeah I had a friend should NAM. All right we'll get Ronnie was my friend. I absolutely lovely Fella but Ronnie was never on time for anything he'd say on each of the eight o'clock eight o'clock become nine Tar de whatever and I was always wondering what was going on and he goes all I was just I was just having a shower and then just as I was drawing off a quick gamma champ. And I'm like are you serious. It was literally delaying him on everything and I wasn't that into it but he got me into it. I started playing it. I watched as ours hours upon hours of days just drifted away gone never to be found again and I had a friend of mine was a guy with the school with was Rovers at the time spent most of his career. It's like Rovers on chapter manager had slugged rovers players on it so I tried to take Cardiff to the Premier League and I signed my friend so like it had all these little elements. You're like ooh. I wonder if I signed my friend my friend for Cardiff and see. Can you take me up how to go? He was not actually that bad But but you failed miserably relegated. I up say one of the strikers By transfer listing. And because I wanted to get someone else in unsettled. The team. The board sack me. But they sacked me when I was seventh or eighth in the League which I thought was unfair will inside the playoff spots. Look you told them you'd be getting them up. Yeah well apparently my and you anger at the face of the team and Andrew Ahead. An old school proper football mount approach to championship manager. I would so you would sit there staring at your computer. Just shouting won't Oh. Yeah I would put on Coffee Green Jumper and affects the mannerisms of coffee while shouting computer straight. Oh yeah absolutely It's a little bit more. Big Ron Atkinson without the racism. Thank you that's an important important qualifier. I'll tell you what we're gonNA take a quick break but actually before we do that. Jj The world may be in the state that it is but in the midst of a pandemic where still recruiting but business persists because when it comes to scoring great hires for your business you may be up against a few obstacles. Lake an overwhelming amount of resumes too many applicants but not enough of the right ones troublespot in the most qualified candidates in a sea of possibilities corona virus. That's why you need ziprecruiter on your team no matter the industry healthcare which is my gosh. They're actually prophetic with that. One healthcare to manufacturing to business services ziprecruiter hiring faster and easier. 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Oh back now on caught off-side JJ. I woke up today as I as I do. And I leaned over and grabbed my phone and went on twitter and I I saw a tweet about an events in soccer that occurred ten years ago to day. Do you know what that was? I don't know what it was. It was the deuce versus the Old Lady. Oh Clint Dempsey in the Europa League for Fulham second leg eighty second minute against the event is full needing a goal to win and then Clint Dempsey will say now. I don't have any list in front of me for those who don't remember it quite so clearly. Round of sixteen little little Fulham in the Europa League against the giants. The event is Fulham lost the first leg in Turin. Three one and then in the second leg back craven cottage devotee resume scored in the second minute to put event is up four one on aggregate. It looked like it was all but lost but then this incredible fightback which included to Zoltan Gera goals and Fulham tied it on aggregate at which point. Clint Dempsey came off the bench. That day is a sub in the eighty. Second Minute if you haven't seen it. I can't believe that an American soccer fan hasn't seen this goal But densely from like like the the corner of the eighteen yard box with his back to goal pretty much gets it and just puts this chip in over the keeper which goes in sends the place into an absolute frenzy and Fulham advanced In that was the year that they went on to actually advance all the way to the final where they eventually lost Jj I don't know if this is an exaggeration so I may need your help here to kind of keep me in line. I don't have a list in front of me but I think it might be the greatest club goal scored by an American in Europe. Ever the greatest twelve goal scored by an American in Europe ever. I don't have a list in front of me either and I'd be happy to hear from our listeners. On this one but in terms of the stakes in terms of the opposition in terms of the comeback in terms of the imports in terms of Fulham did that season. I'm going to go with that. And also the execution has the slightest look a word. Goalkeeper is not fun by the way and he just thinks it up over. It's a wonderful goal. It's an absolutely brilliant gold. Yeah I was reading an Roy. Sorry crossing Roy Hudson's response to it is is just amazing. If you if you watch the video footage he turns away almost in disbelief. Kind of shaking his head. He can't believe what he's seeing. Yeah I have some quotes here because I I went when I saw that and I just like needed something good in life so I was like this just like this fits the bill perfectly just like seeing that this morning so I went deep on it and was like reading old articles about that game and some of the quotes Like you mentioned Roy. Hodgson he said afterwards on top of the world. I don't know if it's the biggest night in the club's history but it must come close He and he went on and on. But I thought Dempsey's quote afterwards was really cool. It's just like it's so clint. He said I just thought what the heck and I tried to put it on the far post and it went in nine times out of ten. You won't make it but sometimes you've gotta take a risk. It's great we showed a lot of heart and character to fight back. But we're into the next round. Just like such a clint thing too. Slick the casual. Like what the heck? I'm just GonNa try this and like confidence. I think I can do it like God. I love him I love. His celebration was awesome as well. It goes around. The back of the goal kind of gets into the fans and the atmosphere is amazing. And that's one of the again one of the benefits of the older grounds. That crowed was Ryan on top. I it still is a craven cottage writing on top of the field and that makes sorta a difference on a night like that own believable By the way can I just say this? That people are sending US little tasty nuggets because right now. Football is in in stasis. Nothing's happening and so lots of these websites are pulling up all kinds of little bits of of a footballing kind of curiosity from from the past and Nighthawk nine hundred and sixty nine hundred ninety six on instagram. Sent this to me and it's something I had forgotten about and there's American angle to it as well. It's that time in two thousand and five but Manchester City manager. Stuart Pearce needing a win sent goalkeeper. David James Upfront. For the final minutes of a game about this rain is going Mickey. He's going to take turns his considerable physical presence to the Manchester City attack. What site eight. One of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen and if you watch it it's on Youtube I'll post the video later if you watch it because whoever posted at Brokaw all David James's contributions when he went up front literally. It's David James. Trying to get a shot off and volleying defenders up in the air. It's unbelievable it's an an Andrew. Manchester City so Manchester City are going for like the European spots and they had a strike on the bench. John Mike Machen. Who had a you know a long career at that point behind him and instead you WANNA see Claudia. Arenas face as he's been substituted it. He's a total disbelief. Nicky weaver goes on for him. David James Goal is up front and you know we look on City No. It's hard to imagine. Such tomfoolery went on at the club. When you consider that. Why would you think this is going to help your team score a goal? Well he's so big so I guess there's just an idea of like that's just nonsense. That's just nonsense. Though he's big. I mean he literally did nothing except just kick people for about ten fifteen minutes. I mean if he I don't know if he could risen above and gotten his head on one who knows cody arena who could take free-kicks who was creative. Who could set people? Why wouldn't you bring on like John McCain for someone else actual striker and leave? Claudia ran on the field. It's utterly bizarre. What's your peers? Did a good job that he isn't A one of a well. He's actually still very much involved in coaching in the Shafei. Incredible moment absolute crazy but my main point about this. Keep sending us this stuff because these testing nuggets shall has the post endure this period without soccer. So kind of along those lines. You had an idea that we wanted to introduce people that could potentially help us get through the next few months or so Without having actual soccer talk about We've been thinking of having essentially fake emergency podcast. We would like you guys out there to submit through us either through twitter or email or instagram wherever Some of your favorite games from the past hopefully games of of real note and and like significance. I think that'll be more fun for everyone. Rather than if you just choose like some kind of random gain that you personally cared about but sympathies with us and Like near the ends of the podcasts that we do in the coming weeks we will conduct essentially a fake emergency podcast as though that game had just ended and we will kind of go back and sort of relive it through the Lens of if we were doing an emergency podcast at that time after that game. Well that's not strictly true Andrew. I actually spent the weekend creating an alternative reality. Oh we're we're caught. Offside has existed are does exist. In previous decades like time machine like some some sort of stuey Griffin invention kind of knitted a westward on it. So this is a this is a world that exists parallel to this Universe boss we actually existed before two thousand fourteen when we actually started. Wow so so so you said fake. I mean I've literally Don Westward. For caught offside but without sexy robots. Because if we've learned anything from Westworld don't make your robots sexy. It's going to end in bloodshed. I've never seen that show It's confusing okay. But I'm I'm pursuing it right to the very end. I will not stop watching it. Until this thing is over. No doubt the sexy robots have Reached their havoc on twitter. The world in twenty fifty four. What a weird concept. Sexy robots no. I just thought about it a lot in. Amer sexy too. Many of them are sexy ratio. Is it's too high. Well so there you go so yes start start submitting them to us however you Whichever method you choose twitter. Instagram now. at the CO soccer pot on twitter at caught offside pot or at dot com and What is caught offside? Espn on instagram caught site ESPN and instagram. And again just to reiterate reiterate what Andrew said do not I repeat? Do not send me our S. L. VS SPORTING KC and like random game from twenty twelve. Because we're not doing okay. We want a moment that would have required again. Sorry game that would have required an emergency not not to submit them for you but like I look forward to getting into this Westworld story Griffin time machine and going back to two thousand ten the moments after Landon. Donovan scored against Algeria. You know the the. Us Win against Spain in the Confederations Cup. Now some you know. I'm sure you would love somebody to submit Liverpool A C Milan Champions League final. These are sorts. Some of the things that that we're talking about here so I think that could be fun. I think it'd be a nice welcome distraction and Sort of a fun way to kind of look back on some of these like real games of note from over the years I also I also spent a lot of money at Lowe's bill in this Bill in this time machine really lows had the parts for this well. They know one flux capacitor. I got somewhere else what I'd rather not talk about that. There's a federal investigation. I know nothing I know nothing. Hey let's Let's do this now card. Would you like to go first? Yeah this is more of a catch up red card so since we last spoke on this wonderful gas andrew at Cardis Cordeiro as resigned as US soccer president after the release of those findings from USF lawyers which stated that the women's team should not be paid the same as men as they have less skill ability and responsibility as their male counterparts. Cordeiro apologize for legal statements calling them unacceptable and inexcusable in his resignation. Letter which he posted on twitter. So now in the midst of this Mass Vice President Cindy parlow cone ascends to the top seat on his grant. Wall points out on sports illustrated. She has a massive task I'm reading from his piece from a few days ago. Parallel cones challenge over the next year. We'll be immense. She asked to resolve multiple lawsuits men relationships and restore faith with the. Us Women's National Team Find Sponsors Federation members. She has to help guide gutted organization through a complete reconstruction despite having bylaws that make it vote vulnerable and she has to do it knowing that there will be an election for president and vice president next February to see who will finish out the term to which Cordeiro was elected and another one in twenty. Twenty two This this mess I. I felt among some people that there was a sense of closure after a fairly devices divisive and rancorous election in two thousand eighteen for For us soccer's top job in the wake of what happened in. Trinidad and Tobago. I felt there was a sense almost a lot of people who thought okay. Well now we've got in place is he what everybody wanted. No as he With at least of establishment soccer. A boat him yes but at least we can kind of move forward. And now we're back in this kind of position of total flocks and. Look I don't know much about cindy parallel corn. But I can tell you. She was a member of the Board. That you know. Allow their lawyers to go ahead with this kind of line of arguments which has caused cardis. Cordero's resigned I mean. There's there's more Harvester Darah hat to goal. But if there's another a number of people who could also have you know reconsidered their positions in. Us Soccer. Unlike I mean the oversight on this issue no particle has disavowed that line of Strategy Idee. Usf Lawyers. But I mean how did this thing get forward in the first place? Yeah I was GonNa ask you do you. So when Cordeiro released a statement. He was very contrite and he was adamant that he was not aware of like the verbiage in the in the legal filing do believe him. That is just a thing. That's hard for me to believe he wouldn't have at some point. Had a chance to Kinda like I like. Give his input on something like that. It's just I don't know he's the president like it's hard for me to envision that that is a thing that wouldn't have at any point gone before his eyes. Well I if he wasn't aware I'm this didn't come in front of him and he didn't have a strategy conversation with with the USSF's Legal Counsel Ban. He's not doing his job correctly and should have resigned based on that alone. I mean I think it stretches credibility that so many people are I say so many people we don't really know but not the Let's just card aero on what he knew that he didn't know that this strategy was being used by his his legal team. I'm I kinda agree with you. There Andrew how was the legal team and I'm not this is not me coming down on their side the. Us Women's should win this fight. And I think most I do believe that most people are believe Believe that but let's say you are one of the guys on this legal team. Who's going against them? What are they supposed to like? They have to grasp at at straws. Like I don't feel like they have really affair coherent arguments so I I almost feel like any argument that's laid out to the contrary is gonNA come across as offensive like okay. So they're going to get rid of this argument this road that there were going down What's the new avenue that they can go down? That won't also be deemed offensive. I do is the. Where's the wiggle room on this? Where what's the next? What's the next thing they go to if they don't use that yeah Which is why the US. I feel like when you're in that place Where it feels like any argument you can. Mount is just one that will is offensive to people. I kind of feel like maybe at least a small sign that you might not be on the right side here may be in. Maybe they just told the truth navy. They just what was revealed to us from. Those findings was what exactly what the top people are people at the top of. Us Soccer think that what the US women do is not as important is not as skilled and is not as Yeah important or are skilled. It was just what the men do. Maybe this was revealed revealing moment. And if they think that if they think that they should not be in the positions they are in on. I'd like people who are who are talking about this on twitter. Who are you know they? They replied to us who have a contrary view about equal pay. I think they should just realize that This is about structural inequalities as much as anything I mean this may be a top down approach but it starts from the bottom to an an and when we talk about equal pay at the top on. We talked about equality at the bottom of us. Soccer means that the the the opportunities that a boy and a girl get to pursue their soccer dream are the same are funded. The same on are given the same resources. That's it in it's most simplistic way. And if you don't believe that then you should not be in a key. Stakeholder position as a guardian of the game working for us soccer. I was thinking about something I think that brought it up On last week's podcast the comparison with tennis women's tennis and so I couldn't get that thought out of my head because I think you know what you're right like women's tennis men's tennis viewed on an equal plane. But I just wanted to make sure that that was the case financially so I just went back and I looked at last year's Wimbledon and yes in fact the prize money for the men's champion and the women's champion is identical all the way down through singles doubles men in the mail winner the female winter they get the same exact prize money for competing so. I do think obviously it's not an exact like for like comparison but no if it does show that like this is not unprecedented. The idea that a woman should in sports should earn the same of what a man earns right and You know again. Talking about structural inequalities women have operated for years on the back foot and then when people advanced the idea. Well they don't bring in as much revenue it's because the structures aren't there to allow them to do that. It's not the women's fault that FIFA gives out different different amounts of prize money and Has a different pay structure a different revenue model for its women's game than it has for its. Men's dot is not the responsibility of any member of the US women's National Team. They operate within this restricted system. And all aim saying is that there should be equal pay for men and women at the top of our sport and at the bottom there should be equal opportunity and equal resource pulled into both the men's and women's Game. That's what equality means. That's the logical extrapolation of equal equal. Pay Arguments. I I you know. I wonder Andrew because these people who who like. They're just so intransigent on this on this issue and they I don't know really what their argument is. What they're why they don't want to see this kind of equality in our game. I mean why. What's skin off your nose is soccer? Plays pays men and women equally right it is like a weird stance to be anti. Why is this the soccer hill? You'RE GONNA DIE. You know you're not you're not paying and it's not gonNA your pocket. Let's say my redcar. Jj I went with Mason. Mount many of you have probably seen this by now His teammate Colin Hudson Doi tested positive for corona virus. Last week Team Chelsea had been ordered to remain under quarantine however mount and West Ham's declan rice. Were seen playing football in a park in London over the weekend. Little five aside for what it's worth. I should point out. Rice and West Ham are not currently under any such quarantine order Mount however with Chelsea having a player in Hudson who test positive he was under a quarantine order The club was not happy Mount apparently called the higher ups at Chelsea to apologize for it. Now here's the thing for me that I worry about when I see a story like this so Mesa Mountain this happened on Sunday so mason. Mount is doing this breaking quarantine within the first few days of the quarantine like I was trying to think what does that the equivalent of. What if like? Jj You and I we went for a walk were hiking. We're in the woods. Let's say we get lost. And within the first fifteen minutes of being lost we look at each other and say well. I guess one of us is going to have to eat the other one. Like that's where we're at in this. The quarantine is only a few days old. And you're already so antsy like you have to break it this early on in the process. This may be months like we don't know how long this is going to be. You already can't be in your house without feeling a need to go outside. Which is days in? This is not going to be easy. And I don't know if people really understand that just yet This is GonNa take sacrifice you are going to be inconvenienced But just like think of the varying degrees of sacrifices that there are and this is something I've seen mentioned elsewhere. I'M NOT GONNA act like this is just my idea but like sacrifice in the early nineteen forties consisted of enlisting for your country to go and fight in a war and now with the exception of of our current servicemen and women who are fighting for this country but like sacrifice in this situation in two thousand and twenty. I mean we're talking about you needing to sit on your couch and watch net flicks and play video games like there are worst sacrifices. That could be made. I'm not saying that this is easy and I know I'm Kinda like breaking down to its most trivial form. But like that's really all you need to be doing here so guys like. Mason Mount like you better start wrapping your mind around this like if you can't make it a few days without feeling the need to break quarantine. I'm I don't know I don't know what to tell you like get on board because this is going to be the new reality for the foreseeable future. Yeah and also as a person with a big following on whether he likes it or not a public figure younger. People are going to see what you're doing and there's a chance that some of them at least within autists is okay. Look Mason mounts plan. I'll just do that. It's fine And also just to reference a tweet that I saw the other day and I'm not GonNa say the guy's name because the guy got absolutely ratio and quite rightly so but he he was complaining about you know the the college the NCAA tournament March Madness being being cancelled and he said it's cancelled because of a virus. Imagine telling that to a D. Day veteran. Who stormed the beach at Normandy? Imagine telling him that. We canceled this great thing because of a virus. What a sad state of affairs paraphrasing. But that's basically the tweet. Yeah it's just so frigging stupidest. Like Hey ed. The reason that we cancelled the tournament is to keep the d day veteran alive. You Utter Moron like people need. It's not a boat you right now. It's about other people and the most vulnerable in our society would somebody who fought a war. Have a problem with that that I don't even really understand. No because they understand psycho sacrifice on a level beyond staying at home watching Netflix and playing with the cash caught offsides man of the match. Go ahead what Andrew. This is a chart up for the books. Roman Abramovich is my mind. That hell we really are living in strange times. It's just from Jackson Manassas in the UK independent in London. Roman Abramovich will pay for an hate staff to stay at Chelsea's Millennium Hotel at Stamford Bridge for at least the next two months after personally taking this decision to help aid the corona virus crisis with doctors and nurses facing an unprecedented workload over the coming months due to the outbreak of covert nineteen the London based primarily club of moved to try and do what they can to help the situation an idea. I raised by Abramovich. Himself led to the club proposing an idea to the National Health Service to offer their staff free accommodation which has been accepted as a result those working at NHS facilities in the North West London area will be able to stay at the hotel free of charge to avoid long and disruptive Commute home with a provision to extend both the catchment area and the length of stay depending on how the crisis develops a Chelsea statement read Chelsea. Football Club is joining the medical response to the Kvant Corona virus outbreak in London. With the news that the National Health Service has accepted clubs offer to make the Millennium Hotel Stanford Bridge available for H F H S STUFF. The initiative came from owner. Roman Abramovich and after contact with the. Nhs was made by chairman. Bruce bulk it was decided the best way. Chelsea can assist the NHS is to provide accommodation for an H- H S staff. Mr Abramovich Abramovich will be covering the cost of providing the accommodation Andrew. It's worth noting that Abramovich right now because of his visa issues can't even get into the UK at this moment and yet he has. The I don't know I mean it's the right thing to do. If you've got the resources you should be doing something like this. Yeah but that's that's almost not fair to say because there's a lot of people that have the resources that aren't doing those things so I think even like yes he can do it but he should still be applauded for it. I think so too. And you know as much as I bemoan the fact of that his entry to English soccer in the mid to thousands precipitated the collapse of the game and money regards Searching certainly in terms of finances Look I've got to park my grievances and doff my hat to him because this is a very good thing to do a thoughtful thing to do. That's very big of you Let's see my man of the match. It's really Kinda like abroad. One at its guys like Jamie Redknapp X. EPL chief Brian Laws. There's a those are just a couple kind of along the lines of what you were just saying Both Redknapp inlaws have suggested in some form or another that the primarily do what they can to financially help lower league clubs that are in grave danger of going out of business during this work stoppage Redknapp appeared on sky. Sports the debate saying quote so many smaller clubs could go out of business from this. They're going to need a bit of help. It wouldn't harm the primarily clubs given all the money the league creates to agree to do something. Meanwhile laws was a little more specific. He called on all primarily players to donate a month's wages to lower leagues The average EPL salary in two thousand nineteen is was three million. Pounds Law said the Lower Leagues the football league where teams are dependent on supporters. Week in week out to pay. That is where their income comes from. They don't have. Tv revenue like the permanently has the ramifications of that is that clubs will go bust before they even get to the point where they could actually finish the season This is me talking now. I don't WanNa make it sound like. It isn't asking a lot for these guys to do those things. I don't care who you are. What your month's wages are like a month's wages no small thing to fork over especially when some of these guys will be going down in relegation themselves You know some of these guys provide money for extended family. We don't know what everyone circumstances are but if everyone just came together in the primarily can chipped in something They enjoy Andrew who knows how far the premier league do it themselves. Hopefully they will to all the owners. They should be doing this. Yeah they have a immoral and unethical responsibility to help. The League's dot is just a fat. Yeah and like. We're in a moment right now here in the US where we're seeing like look at some of these guys in the NBA. They've stepped up like Steph Curry. Kevin Love Shine Williamson like you know. These guys are working over a lot of money to pay for a lot of the arena staff and employees. Who Won't be working while this is all going on. People who really like these are people that desperately need that money like these we are seeing. We've seen a little of the bad inhumanity like some of the scenes that I've seen from like grocery stores of people just losing their minds like I think that's kind of a negative side of how people can behave in a time like this but we've also seen the good And you know that is people who are of some means doing what they can to help those who don't necessarily have what they have. So hopefully we see more of that on the soccer front as well because Lord knows those guys do have they have the means and Hopefully they have the the willingness to WANNA use that for good That is about it. I'll tell you what though we do have one other thing An old staple of this show for people who may have been listeners. Way Back in the day. We're going to bring something back at least for today. I don't know if it's permanent but we're gonNA bring something back that we used to do. We're going to do that in just a sack. But before we. Jj there's business to attend to because hiring used to be hard multiple job sites stacks of resumes confusing review process. But today hiring can be easy and you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter DOT COM SLASH. Offside ziprecruiter sends your job to over one. Hundred of the Web's leading job sites. But they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite them to apply to your job. You can even add screening questions to your job listening. You can filter candidates in focus on the best ones Ziprecruiter so effective that four out of five employers. Who Post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day and right now to try ziprecruiter for free our listeners can go to ziprecruiter dot com slash. Offside that's ziprecruiter dot com slash offside F S I d ziprecruiter dot com slash offsides ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire. Jj Do you remember this? It's the critics corner with Jj Davani. Wow what a timely return for the critics coroner so. The critics corner ran for a boat. I WANNA say like two years. And then my self-indulgence kill this because you allowed me to introduce anything. It didn't have to be football related right into the critics corner. You abused it. I think my might might minor dear. My lowest point came when I started Pushing the virtues of Texas Post Rock band this will destroy you. You lost the trust of the people essentially as what happened. I took it too far and we candace back. Yeah Yeah here it is so what are you saw this. I'm assuming you have something I have. It's a book so some of the most interesting sports books. Andrew are not about the winners sport. There the cautionary tales the losers details of grip potential squandered. The journeyman that's why this week's critics corner recommendation is full time the secret. Life of Twenty Cascarino by Paul. Kimmage may have mentioned this before but this is the perfect time to read. This perfectly sized autobiography. This is the tale of Journeyman footballer in his Mid Thirties. Trying to keep the show on the road for one more contract after big money most Aston Villa and Celtic do not work for Cascarino. The former Chelsea striker goes to France to try and extend a career that is rapidly running out of Rhode Changing Burt. Cert- dying your hair. Whatever it takes for one more contract one more chance. The book peels away the idealized life of the Professional Footballer and Laze Baird Insecurity struggles and fear at the heart of the game. Where time is the ultimate enemy. Cascarino was a man running away from father time Andrew but also from his own mistakes and demons of that have impacted his life and the lives of those he loves. It's the cliche warts and all book but it's really honest and reading like before the book is the perfect land. It's not very long but it's it's just a good size. It's easy to re. Paul kimmage is excellent. The way crafts this book together. Copies are available on Amazon right now for like seven dollars. This was a multi award winning book in the UK and Ireland in I WANNA say two thousand ten or twenty eleven. I cannot recommend this one more highly as the sports autobiography. I'm as football book so that is full-time the secret. Life of Twenty Cascarino by Paul kimmage. Well well tell you what man people people are going to be home. They're under quarantine. They're looking for things to watch to do to read so I think this is. I think this is good. Good good recommendation. I'll keep doing this and I'll I'll keep it. You know what I'll keep it to soccer. This time I will not try and push Texan Post Rock upon anybody. My promise to you. See your solemn bond will. Hey this was this was important. This was fun. This was a nice break from All the craziness of current everyday life We will continue to do this for as long as we're allowed to Hopefully that is you know on a permanent basis will will crank these out once a week And hopefully we'll have some good news at some point to report is to win. We'll start to see guys kicking a ball in anger as they say once again But Yeah in the meantime send us your requests of of games from the past that you would like us to do emergency podcast on. We'll start doing those Probably sometime if not next week the week after some time. Very in the near future Because that should be fun. Hey I hope you're well man. I hope everybody out there as well like I said at the start of the show. Everybody just take care of one another because we're in one of those moments where we all need a little help from our friends are I man aright man. Wash your hands everybody. Please don't go near anybody unless you absolutely have to say to you. I say they take care of mine. Listening to the COD off. Side soccer podcast.

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Men in Blazers 11/26/19

Men In Blazers

1:11:20 hr | 1 year ago

Men in Blazers 11/26/19

"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC sports. Network it from the embassy row studios in the crap Potter Soho semenya blazes. PODCAST Roach we back. We are like a certain little noon till the humble scrappy underdog manager. Oh yeah absolutely talking. You managers being. I've been out of pocket DOC. It for about an hour and a half. has there been any breaking news. Any other managers been fired. Any other former managers of clubs been hired to come back to clubs. Swipe his Hashtag tag premier league season. Yeah sadly enough managers have been sat since the weekend as we will discuss. Okay so much football yeah so little time time we got loaded. We do have load talk about you know lives manipulates moves turning me into a lethal weapon. Much David I'm going to get a black belt impose any other day. What does the sequence of belts implicates at APP and told by my train assure the I'm very close to a black belt? What color is wells? Don't wear that felt. Were any patterns. Iki I think is just to motivate mean motivated by carrots. It's not sticks but we get to the football too many students think about the football storylines for some reason. I think about big salad. Isis assist spatchcock Turkey. which I believe he stuff spot hand while it still life to what all of these managerial vacancies? and His name. Louison all of them. He is going crazy easy appearing on British television all the time and Energy British manager tune into a phone one if you want job as opposed to AH BE EMMA. Lee Did an interview on talksport this week or you went through a litany of the things that he doesn't like about modern football passing doesn't enjoy that goals yet goals. We'll say foreign managers. Var Technology offside rule and modern health which is led to pike consumption dropping by forty percent in modern Britain games. Go but we got to throw a Ryan David because too much to talk about before we do a brief warning from the surgeon. General Menes show is actually back again. How fast and furious two shows in less than three weeks? This is not like nat plays they. So we're going to be back. We craft these things we witnessed trench on. It's back live next. Wednesday December four horrible massive games Joe's as returned to Manchester United Road. With his new Boo Tottenham and the Merseyside Site Darby refereed by Mike Dean. Have that one's GonNa win Rod. We're on at six PM. Eastern time. I'm going to be there started. The Guest Raj Commission and Childhood. Liverpool Fan Hosea Ito about my new mayor. Whose here I love the genuinely hose? Here right Jada. It's not one of the loveliest human beings that we've ever encountered gorgeous gorgeous. Man I I with not a hosea. fant Yup before where I'm name. Yeah I'm a fan of the man is all I can tell the. Save the day also tournament remarkable human beings for our annual special special special is coming back yet. Yeah on Boxing Day. We've had we've had Jim Oliver on a car. Say for the better part of a decade. Now I think he is ruffling the Great Billy Bean as Alec let Baldwin or makes frequent guests into on this. We'll say this because John Elvis not listening to this. I preferred having a more more in the hot Chenier when he said is expectations. -TATIONS for Liverpool Gone Solo to literally wanted was five connecting parties. A game for him then. That was happiness this year. Think he's going to be a bearable. When is difficult? Go watching last night. A bit of Comedians in cars getting coffee and I was watching the Jamie Foxx episode and he was saying how difficult it is to be funny at at the point that you're successful you suddenly go to the club and you're making jokes about your Range Rover having problems or what's it like to stay in an apartment that's less than five thousand square feet weirdly relate to that kind of comedy. That's our report. We think Jones successful unbearable because Liverpool. Yes no Saratov. You've had to be funny about completely dominating world-beating team will be. It's going to be interesting to see. Exactly how. What do you think she carries on the squad four-day okay? We've got a packed show. We're going to step wide into the sky once again. Parachutes into the Premier League arena. We Relive Manchester City versus Chelsea English. Football's answer to the Irishman versus frozen. Too and we break down another late Liverpool winner but I but would you give us a toast. Leo will will dave or raise my first third birthday today to Thanksgiving that Noble l'americain tradition. I will admit it took me some time to get into the swing thanksgiving. It's probably the last great. American tradition took me the longest to embrace. But I do love it now because I realize realized it binds us all and there's so much to be thankful for in these crazy days in which we're all living what I think Rebecca Lowe Lula who we can we can is the fate of the game we love in the nation we love. I want thank Christian Pulisic for summoning the tenacity to make every young American American football a belief they keep growing it. They can make their dreams come true. Raise the bundle so to the American women who've Damore to foster there were love this game in this nation than any collective in American history history history and to football dave no matter what's happening in the rest of the world the the Premier League's always there to sue and to thrill in equal measure. This from top to bottom is the season the seasons. That's before juice eight Marino came in. It just jumped into the Lord Festival life and we'll Liverpool straightening to reassert themselves a vengeful broad chasing them down. Pat Melting down yet am Merino back to pour gasoline on all and flip. Open ZIPPO. Pretty well everyone else. Just having primarily fire the manager sees and. I can't stop watching and for that. I raised my but fumbled fan to never taken it for granted. Sauvage just thank you for all the babies. I love it I love all the babies in the Premier League not just in Chelsea Elsie. Listen to this a more appropriate for me to say not mind. Okay Roach. Let's get right into it to Tottenham three just days after replacing the beloved Marucio Pocchettino. I can't believe I'm even reading this line. It's like make believe it's called like when we did the sports like World Cup for we. Did the radio commentary. You had to make up scenarios about things that would never happen and we had multi beating Germany like nine nil every scenario we had the US qualifying medicine. So does the so unlikely that Tottenham would be firing reports Tina this season after the Champions League final and replacing him with of all people Josie Marino. Anyway Josie the new Tottenham manager strolled into tweets. London's tarnishing Sarah Sweden claim as many points as posited in this final twelve games in charge on the road. I point that Josie is not reminding anyone of talk. That didn't know briefing. In the media media Tottenham stormed out to a three nil lead by goals from San Lucas Moore an hurricane. They can see the twice late on but they never looked in any real danger. Marino era begins not with a whimper but with bubbles R- spurs he'll too that's how the only way I can think about it marinas arrival the biggest shocks in stone cold. Steve Austin turned on the Rock. We took my nose bleed transition and you can tell that the spurs players they're reeling they're still mourning the passing potch Harry K talking lovingly of to our visits to see my sack manager even as they adapt to life and the Portuguese. These little finger arrived reminding us all of his eight league titles that he brings in Type Different Joseph Davie self-professed happy humble Jo. Say say it's not about myself. He said to a packed press conference room that have more people in it than patches. Pre Champions League press conference I talked about my feelings about porches coaches demise marinas arrival in Thursday's emergency pod that we tape last week but four years ago David Marines at Chelsea he was linked to spurs and he shedded. Never never manage it spurs out of respect out of respect for the Chelsea fans and when asked what changed laughed and said I was set so I want to Chelsea Fan. Who loved the Juicy Marino days? How's it feel to seem spurs? Does it feel different to united or the same way Dave is he had to. You know he's not dead to me. But he's been diluted he's been diluted because he went after man united in between and so oh. I've already had that moment. And it's very odd watching Jersey like another premier leagues fans singing the Marino Song knocking ironed the at us. It was a very thing but it sort of is like that's done. It's kind of like an ex girlfriend. She moves on you. Move On. It's done by the time they get into their second or third or fourth relationship. We really don't care anymore. So that's how I feel about it. I actually have more troubled feelings about Tottenham. I only Jersey has over. I still think he's got a lot of contributors manager manager. He has won eight league titles. I still think he's he's a manager. You bring in if you want one of two things to happen you want to win. Titles or you on the entire thing to explode explode self-destruct the idea that's being suggested by some in the media that they've bought in Jersey to be a safe pair of hands to look after their best players while they in a caretaker role until they go and find someone else. I mean. Josie we'll either win. Titles all the whole thing will explode. Faith this is not Tottenham Tottenham. Are This incredibly likeable club that have played throughout the history very attractive football. This is a team of young quite delicate boys who play at this club and I just worry. About the effect on Tottenham and as someone unite. We both have sympathies will spurs probably not side chick level. But it's like it's a good friend. Still Care about law. And I I worry more about Tottenham in this it the more I think about it I talked about the emergency pod. The clubs have souls and this seemed to go against the soul as I understood it of new taught the Porch Tottenham I mean you look at Tottenham before potch and we have to remind ourselves it was it was show would it was there was Martin. Ya'll Ramda's this crazy manages in that it is a club that has been quite erotic prajit almost given us a false sense. Of what the Spurs so Liz. But it does seem to go against against the so. I think though that there is a focus on part of sports fans and sports media to give a lot more attention to managers and coaches and players than they due to owners and we focus on owners when it's like shoot criticism of owners like you know. Get rid of the glazers. Let's get rid of Cranky Abramovitch going to sell the team. Because he can't get into Britain anymore but I think that the owner the chairman Daniel Levy. This has a lot to do with that and it's not it's is not focused on very much levy impart fell out that is also part of the culture of this club justice culture that loves the fans and the way they play football. Levi's not not an easy guy. I watch by all accounts when it came down to it. When he couldn't have his way was not easy to go and be around did not look happy? All this briefing. The press that put Schettino quote salt his way to the sack sat. which when we get to watch it on Emerson's all or nothing? It's GONNA be shocking. Twist as ned stocks execution scene and game of thrones surreal in paying puts his head on the block the Argentinian mutters Valmont. Go listen then. The sword descends. I agree potch. Wonderful Man. Him Speculating Pilatus before the champions seat final. Maybe I'll leave not the smartest way to signal that he had the energy to lead the club into a new cycle. But it's a weird choice. You I gotta say I want to move through what Marino's done this. We start off by saying I'M NOT MR Chelsea I missed a club and Mr Plow missed a club. It's like he's just playing big four. Bingo at this point is coach Chelsea united now Spurs. He's got burnt out. WHO's welcome quick to Madrid and in Somalia's we can still German Liverpool unmanned city before he takes a US men's national team job for the twenty twenty six? We'll come but it's fascinating inside. I've started the thing. It all makes more sense if spurs when actually trying to rebuild filled with marina but possibly trying to sell the club and the marina was just boy in as a shiny hood ornament to kind of execute. Your sale which is always speculated speculated but when we look at we look at this I mean how did he get the job other than Joe says. They agree to start wearing spurs pajamas. His own words and I he sucked up Danya Levy. Who you mention the Spurs chairman by telling him that he's got one of the best squad in the primly which we both agree? It's true right he does. It's exhausted and ground down but superlative. Also that plays into Daniel Levi's own argument to his manager. PACI until the fans that you know what you've got a great squad. Stop complaining learning about the players that you've got an coach them and make them good. He told Levy is willing to play youngsters. which I don't believe for a second this troop not only does joe say have a record of not trusting young young players? I could make case jokes. Marino hates youth itself but did find this person has got his ruminations on life to be fascinating de eh talked about how we had time off to think about his approach to life. His philosophy eases strategies taking bets on what these new football strategies and philosophies are is he a pacifist. Now there's been studying guerilla warfare techniques. He said this talk about with you. I realized during my career I made mistakes and I'm not going to make the same mistakes. I'm going to make new mistakes totally. But I imagined him driving around London like Don Johnson and Miami Vitamin E. can talk lambeau awesome. Kenny loggins danger zone on just having moody stumbled self-reflection. I am humble. I was always humbling my way. Another great no not Tenne humble humble people that consider themselves out loud humble I mean how do you understand why because the older you get. I found a gym Meru. The less you can change right. I mean it's less about Camerino still-managerless still a referendum on that it's more a referendum on whether human beings can change human carrie grief as possible or a certain age or you what you are. Look I think there are certain situations that suit certain managers. You know exhibit a cloudy around the area lesser title manager. Who is seen? As being washed up comes back wins the title at Leicester The perfect man at the perfect time in the perfect situation at that club the Tinkham and suddenly was not tinkering anymore. He played that same lineup and got into the titles so I do believe. I don't believe that people can't change. I think Josie is mainly driven then by winning money winning the two very much connected and fifty million dollars a year. No one's GonNa take that Tottenham job and take it for nothing it's going to be just some version of multiple millions but is funny. The Spurs haven't been able to cough up money for incoming players and then I was like spunky a reported did fifty million dollars a job for him to say yes. I know I won't have enough money for players in January because he's sitting on piles of cash in his office but you think Marino can change because I look at this humble thing that young players thing this many mistakes and it reminds me watching him and I know it reminds a lot of view the same listeners. I know it. Does it. Remind you too. Doesn't it of Schindler's List where the real finds character. The commandant goes to a very brief period where he taught saying I forgive. You is better than you know. Just working people out and he walks around for about three scenes just forgiving people. It goes against its very nature you can tell he comes down saying it and I do believe this Marino humble thing this movie new. I've changed thing. I think it's Hilarious bollocks. I believe it the the older you get the less you can change other than balding of. I'm not saying that he's necessarily going to change. But I'm saying that the situation could make C- Josie and a slightly different light. I think there is this presumption now. The JOE'S A it's too easy chose manager failed. He felt that Josie is probably A. Here's a guy who want you've got to have balanced. He won eight league titles he knows how to go and do even at Manchester United. He won the Europa League. It's a trophy. Certainly a trophy that Tottenham having one and so. I think that he's still capable of doing something in the situation may be different and getting off to a winning start at the weekend is a pretty good way who start stop. That situates opposed to during a loser. We'll say the one thing I do find fascinating Josie does not do midseason takeover breath. So this is going to be Tripoli interesting. 'cause we're going to watch him not just for the challenge of reinventing spurs also. She's fighting cancelled culture. The sense that for all this trophies past managers weapon machiavellian tactics were effective in years. Your so there's like a self. This this is not the marina that descends confidently and says I know how to win win. This is the Murray. There is a question mark over Marino and him arriving midseason which she's the most Marino thing I've ever seen that in itself is genuinely fascinated with need each other. Can I say one more thing on the positive side. For Jersey Marino at Tottenham which and I swear. This isn't like just me taking the positive side of Ross taking the negative side. Because that's how radio works. I'm saying this because I generally believe it. A man united. He took recover team that was lacking a playing style under van Gaal and he was born in to try and figure out how a playing style. That's not why you bring Marino into a team. He's not the the flag guy he's a guy who can summon the strength amongst leaders to go and have the steel and the discipline to win. That's what he's done at pretty much every club. He's been Nice. Never Been The star Guy taught them have quality and style and players who can play a certain way and by the way. They've got potential leaders on that team as well. He's got a few choices of leaders. And in some ways what Tottenham need is more of that strength and still and like toughness that non spurs business in the center of the park in those dying moments in those in those big games. Josie is more suited to the job. He's coming in to do at Tottenham. Then he was for the job that he was the sentence to go into it. Man United we will say we will see to the game which we should remind listeners. Spurs began in four in place in the Six points above the relegation do think Putin will everyone apart from Leicester Liverpool a six points above the relegation zone but with our winning last five games one question not a lot of people ask but it did show me. When was Marino even coaching in the weekend? Most managers who take over late in the week Brendan Rodgers at Leicester Sam Allardyce at Everton. Everton they sit in the stands for the first game. They let an assistant take the sideline to they've got a week to enforce their ideas protect themselves from anything negative actually the happening in that game. Not Mu not my cart. A man who craves the spotlight. He wanted to throw himself in. You would never gonNA kiss him hands looking good roaches rotate got a Suntan. He knows their cameras there. The light at the London Stadium refracting off the bubble. He's got he's got to go. I need horrible form the game that they look like they would say it. Wasn't it was west. The patty's won't bar to ease his way back into the Premier League after three hundred and four two days days away self aggrandizing himself in the mirror as he taught the field amongst the bubbles. I felt a tremor in the force that was light in darkness coming together the West the West or a team. We do not so much play about line. As just scattered players randomly around off Spurs. Were able to the twist and turn it thirty. Six minutes for the breakthrough salt far in right through it really was. I mean you could not through you. You could not through a shot goalkeeper David and when one of these magic tricks where you saw a person in off and just move them in Madrid the her whole Roberta got lever if he makes a save. The most shot person in the world is Roberta parents. Yeah Mrs River. I can't believe most Sundays. So that's a good goal sun plan who you know what a few weeks he said. What an emotional rollercoaster? He's been on after the sending off a no Everton Tim. Fantasy shouldn't have been playing yet. God then rescinded far incidents and then losing manager. Now he's got Josie but he. This guy has a strength and ability to just focus all of it while still being a very emotional human beings we saw Jones sounds they sing it sir. Even I am not hurt one of my own. I can't stand looking sad song. I cannot bed the soul cannot bear singing happy. I was happy for him. Put Roberto crap with his hands worse with his feet. He's just like I you know. Sometimes Fans Ron Trophy celebration. Because they're wearing the light night fan realize all. You need to do to be an impostor and Gal in the field and a friendly game is get some neck tap point to that on the TV shocking shocking. Look the part second goal a brilliant. I tried to roll my RS and failed upon team goal scored by just a collective straining every sinew every tendon to impress new manager. Deli- deliver on the sideline and Liverpool College. Break dancing crew member. That was a look back spin into a windmill power movie. I thought you might be looking at with your Mayo blackbelt in politics. I think you might have been looking at Delhi's core strength. Yeah you G Totten Ham. You look at that in slow motion and it actually doesn't do it justice you look at that in real time in real speed indeed and what he did keeping the ball in play managing not only capable imply. Think he's been doing one hundred watts the ball he's been doing the hundreds one hundred hundred hundred of the platform whereas my about what's going to be like a Gucci belt a black laws and so two hundred flicking flicking the ball sets up Sun Sun Moves into space intelligently son charges down the we put on a ball joint him a pilates Grefe he puts it puts an a ball Lucas Moorer principle in the back of the net. I'll say marina thrown a little south into the press about how we create a change before the game. He said somehow briefed the press story. GonNa he said to Delhi. He's how they really season off. You said to him all oh you delete or delis brother. All the press wrote Deli set to which Marino said public from thrown with lightning coming out of his eyes so Pete Jelly the Real Deli to me when what is a poet to me honestly. What is clearly delis brother? Play 'cause his. Telly couldn't have done that on the field. There's no doubt that is wherever brothers Nigel. Nigel lally brothers called Mojo will lead to more knowledge. God Love Deli right in front of his boss. Yeah on this first day at work like an job interview. What's your biggest weakness biggest weaknesses which worked too hard? I can't a too much and I love the other Parbat Sony. How many footballers would bother to make that? Run into space when the teammate is just flipping on the floor and then just an exquisite path more finishing spurs the spurs again but at least they were given a crap western West Ham booed off of the break. They really slept through a London. Dobie honestly rarely seen any team in the London Dhabi week with less desire abysmal team. Yeah I mean look. This was a team that started the season. So well sort of feel Pellegrini is watching radio comeback thinking. Oh my gotTa go to deal with this guy in okay and the players. You're right London. Darby chance to take out Jersey Marino. I can game one. Rep Chris Schouten Room to be flying around Hashtag sacking season. How crap must you be? Winning away the Tottenham Fans Sang Marine start to unfurl is history on the repertoire of sideline theatrics which remind me did the crowd gene mckinney. When Lucas roll the ball wide of the goal the finger in the eye? This when Harry Canine brought patented that. Now when when Harry K made it three nail I will say love Love Marina. One of his inaugural the great skills is just the range of emotional reactions. He gives Premier League match directors. We can't take you're always over television performers. We want great television. We want great pictures and he gives us pictures. He gives us great soundbites. He gives us. It's the best that's news for us. I mean this whole seasons gift. We Got Steve Bruce back at Newcastle top Busey. Then he's he's hanging in there. I mean it's just it's epic. It's epic what we've got going on West Ham big gifts. Burt elite skjei Michaela Gagne Changes Spurs but line turned off down the stretch batch. Let them make the Scott close in. It should have been joe say tried to international we fatigue for the more defensive frailties which will be j-o-s-e as is to solve a reminder that the spurs just one clean sheets all season who cares. They went up primarily away game for the first time since January. And you know Dave for Jake always trumps the quality of the performance. Totally straight on the phone with Diego store after the game trying to get him to come back to London is going to throw bibs Ma Ma right win from great start to his career and the fans and the spurs away more singing marina which must have been the most beautiful sound him talked talked on the show. Yesterday I was fascinated by the scorsese kind of tracking shot. The Games end went Sauna Deli. When the the away found it was fascinating? It was is fascinating. I mean the one thing I mean you should say what it is he said on. TV shows so right. I've watched it again. Since I have sort of a coder to slap on the end of that take us at the end to show. They love the fans which some do some don't but this law almost that they have to thank the away. Fencer faithfully made that long journey. Good for the business and Tottenham all the way to London stadium and you go when you give them the Jersey. I will notice son singled out a beautiful child at Jinja. A child in handed shirt to deliberately Deli kind of flung as shirt so weekly that I think he even fell into the floor in front of the fans but they're they're greenway anyway. Fans a Marino stood back. He stood back because he doesn't know if he's welcome yet it doesn't know if he's from the fans how would they greet him. He didn't want a bad. I had seen he didn't know if Deli in Psalm would welcome to. Is that space but he knew there was a camera television camera. You always knows he knows more than anyone whether Talib he works out of. The new television camera perched on his shoulder so we knew we was him did so we harvard like a stepfather. Who didn't know if we allowed if he had a relationship of trust with step kid who was in the bedroom playing his death leopard so we just kind of Harvard outside not a little bit waited for them to come out and no one understands the power of optics more than he wants to be seen to be love by his place? It's important not feared. He wants to be loved it spurs and we heard him on the mic like the might picked up his words he said. Give me a hug. We got the three points thirty language but the players didn't they didn't give him the hug they gave him the move. More could high five and this is marines battle right now reading too much into emotional hooks at the end of the game. It's not tactical. It really is the battle for love within talk to them team and very. I think you're more than half right but not all the way. I think you read too much doubt your own home. You read my doubt renew yes. He knew the cameras there. You exactly what he was doing. He was standing there what he said. It's like putting the players that letting the players. He's so aware of what that shot. Looks like Jon looks so so good it did look. He looks like he's in the foreground. The fans are happy. They're loving the players. He's put the plaza. I seen in the office when the HR consultant comes in and Ricky based kept insisting on the me this age. I think it's the me you think marinas do. I'm letting these players yeah. Life is a lot of that the background and then when the plaza was you're right I mean they sort of sun sort of gave him a little bit of love that was Deli Deli Webster Deli went for a handshake shake and Josie didn't let his hand go. He just held onto as Dhaliwal parliament. He held onto it and turned it into an embrace f-full handshake handshake and kept on talking to him. And that's his iron grip. I mean he's a determined determined on self-aware M. F. either way I relate to Delhi because we have a large family on both sides and then boosts huggers and then there's family members who just don't feel very close to and they come in for the hug and hold them off Huysman the more wage with a handshake and that's what Deli dead. I respected that move. The person going for the hook you hold them off with the handshake and Marino didn't to counter. It was a presidential debate interaction whereas Powell. We'll be made those didn't hold out the straight hand that you're talking about. He went for the the plastic handshake the thump handshake and the real on the route to turn that in into a class. By the way you are right Sony. They give them a half hug but from Sony. That's this day. We know I mean this guy is like everyone rainbows. They're coming out of his ASS. A UNICOR again. Reading too much in the post-match interviews all of this truth troopers reinforced the interview at tried to banter with Delhi did Marino. Motivate you with the Delhi or Delhi brothers challenge and it was an awful moment attended. It was meant to be yet BANTA. You've won and Delhi didn't know how to react. He froze. I mean normally movies players embrace Moose self mythology stories quickly to be with him and and Delhi deflected showed no wont towards the Story Move Quickly to talk about how he did. It won't be like Delhi. It is p two seasons ago. He wants to be a different Deli a a better daily but in his answer is unwillingness to tip is cabinet knowledge marines motivation techniques. You can see Marines battle spurs with this midseason takeover gave the locker room that was brought through by pot in his tool and confused as much as the rest of us so for me. Let's wait until after they played Balmer thin united in the next two games games before we proclaim anything other than to say on this day. Spurs were victorious. Yeah I think it's more about. It's very tough for these players to to see this manager who they were tight with them and you're at the club you know how tight they were with with with Michio Chino and say these are young men He's these figures are like father figures to them and it's a it's a very very tough thing and you know in front of the media just very very difficult to go and deal with this and he went his talking. Talking points is talking points or about the Deli. He wants to go and be didn't want to talk about the manager situation. But you at a certain point this professional sport you gotTa move on you gotTa go and play. We'll move don't formations that we're not going to get in and we will in the weeks to come and big love for the Spurs fans. We both know who have incredibly conflicted emotions right now and I think many of them celebrated that win the Tick Tock crying dancing gill retail the okay rods Man City to Chelsea Eh one after that three one lost liberal before the international break which we attended pets mob right the ship coming from behind to beat former city. Legend Frank Lampard's Chelsea. The the visitors took the visitors took an early lead through and go county only to see it quickly overturned by Katy B and about half the Chelsea mood deflected off an amazing racing stripe from Red Mars City Leapfrog Chelsea into third place. But they're still nine points of Liverpool Roach. She's versus Blue Chelsea Santa having won six straight the darlings of the season babies. They're just little babies into slightly reeling city that stinging defeat at Liverpool PEPs on field quasi meltdown l.. Down did fail. The defending champion season was at a bit of a crossroads remember pep in his fourth season at city. He's neff lasted longer than four years in the previous jobs and he's always won league titles from the Front Israel ways the hunted never the hunter that did feel a little bit. What would happen if he lost this and was effectively not way out the title race it will be it will be a weird one city began? Always they left off without that John Stone shape vulnerability of the heart of the back line. Franklin Potts Chelsea set to prove that warp speed for spells in the early exchanges city looked uncharacteristically. Characteristically vulnerable can take Dave just junior fordline every opportunity with concerts playing a very different role sort of quite quietly playing a very a different role under Frank Lampard then he played under certainly under sorry and but also under Antonio say very very different role and getting forward more in every opportunity yet and plan between the lines and he's very very difficult to deal with is very very difficult to pick up and it was key to the open Cuba chick spanking a deathly weighted ball Kovachevich the coming this crater second season in the premier league starting to look like he belongs and the charging can say I touched it to perfection. Delighted alighted embodying mandate. I'm not even sure to body Mendy. I think he bought the Mendi just to be little by these big man and then finished. I love the finish so intelligent. David Wright goal great opening set up what I thought was a great game of football and the thing I love most about Angela Kennedy when he scores because he's got we know he's potent. We know he's skillful folks. But he's also deeply humble and self effacing he's got no idea how to celebrate a goal the stands this mild beautifully just incredible wattage in astonishment just waiting for his teammates to pick him up like an overseas baby. It's beautiful moment. Cafe is baby owed question from GOP. Jonathan then route Dave Can you please help a settler debate. Who Wins Eleven counties versus eleven? Maleness are immediately. I think county but he wouldn't be asking the question if there were more too so I got already think about that. I think for me is can take and he goes to penalty we have tiger versus Mickelson on pay per view. Why can we not just have canton versus mill yet? That's good eleven to them by year. If we don't aspel much I would say the greatest. The greatest compliment I got all weekend was from producer. J W who when I sent him a video of George scored his first penalty. Masan is an underage game at Chelsea piers this weekend and he got fouled into the air. They said George you take almost froze and he put the ball on the spot and had to go and take the penalty. He stepped up and he made it and he had that similar thing that he just didn't really know what to do. We didn't know how to celebrate what he was meant to do. and J W when he saw it said said it was just like in Gulf County back to the center circle to the greatest compliment you could say. I hope he grows up to being canceled. My child to grow up to be the Jamie nine celebration city seated the first goal in three of the last four home league games which is astonishing as many as they had in their previous fifty one that in the vulnerability against Liverpool still preying on them is Chelsea terrier them. When can take school? David Shaw the proved to be eh too early. We don't want to Italy with Frankie babies. Let's do business. I mean look I see celebrated roomy scored that goal. Chelsea's analyst is very convenient for me to say Chelsea's results this season really. Don't bother me this is like I'm playing with with House Money Chelsea this year it is just it is just a delight to go and watch. We've not done well against the big teams and not done well against big opposition. I'd like to be too big club. I'd I'd like Tammy to score against a big club. I'd like Christian to score in a big game hasn't happened yet. But this was better than performance against mandated already going one no up at city as Oh. That's good. Let's see what the babies and the babies to play. Well see Christian school against Turks in Keiko's don't get the voice yeah. The forgot the chaos replying with took exchange club. I was fascinated by it. Did see things are about to implode on the city's pep in his tactically. Weird Combo like the Hoodie Turtleneck. Great Cargo Pants have too. Many pockets is formal shoes. Since your legs long buddy by the way notice for the first time hadn't seen that in pet before let's let's take a short leg long body short. You call my legs but maybe outfits PEPs losing it. Narrative force me to do some quick statistical analysis of cities x j when he wears a hood again versus cities X J. You when he doesn't wear the hood interesting and it was really a couple of Chelsea lab says is the city back into the game. Genie Gina's had a good season bad. Give away but even with the giveaway. There was a great deal deal of good fortune about that goal. I think it deflected off Zuma twice once of tomorrow on the way into the goal and you know one one jeter flats wizard Katie Bay Kovic next to turn the ball over again city stunk Chelsea and transition more as flick it into life. Exhuming coming himself on the right wing cutting inside and that Chelsea defense which unilaterally disarmed. They've allowed them together. Left for rolling seeing a single and Iron Robin Tribute Goal Jacobs. Told me was actually a read. More as two thousand fifteen but how do you feel about the Chelsea's mentality not dave. Did you like what you sober in. Response that second half very open both teams played positive. Collective connect the passive football both seemingly aware of their strength and having immortal awareness. Awareness of the room vulnerabilities. I'm just too happy as a Chelsea fantasies and Ross. I'm delusional. It's like I've taken the pill of taking the drugs didn't get to me at all I'd love to at some point. Beat a big team certainly away from home but you know. I felt that this was a very good game of football. I felt these quality teams and I thought Man City ultimately good for the win and Chelsea with two competes against but it was like an was like an older brother fighting his kid brother at the end just neutralizing him of a bear hug until his energy is going. What are the drugs you taking on the them for the door via? I'm GonNa take an elephant tranquilizer size one politic. We gotTA talk about in five goals in his last three in this one relatively anonymous. He's he bangs. Come so far trick. Lucas Jerry the other two goals you know the danger Khalifa Christian of Chelsea right now is they're flat track bullies as they. They haven't really beaten anybody really good this season. I need to beat someone good and Tammy certainly and and Christian of got proof that they can score goals against the big boys Christian kept making is intelligent runs but city move with it so we couldn't really influence the game and you look look at the phases of his young career so far the flat star the resurrection and Second Coming over the past couple of games but now opponents will have him as one of their first video flip. This is what has changed. I video clips will be Christie and the threat and he's going to have to demonstrate a next level ability to assert himself now that he's known quantity you look at Daniel Daniel James and how he's pushed himself the Manchester United Threat Charts. It was actually quite good in the Sheffield whiplash game. I think more about Nikola Yelavich. Who broke through at Everton football club? Netting eleven goals in his first thirteen starts and teams realized he only scored from one place in the penalty area. Saw Sorta the station that defend the right in that place and he barely score to get think he was in second division China before we knew it so the fight to establish yourself in the primarily is every single week affair for helping professional. It's just being a professional. Every women daily face for Chelsea another game against those considered big rivals lost. They're still a breathless at the defensive but better than the last time there in Manchester and lost four not united another game that they actually performed very well in but they they go spank thank. The young players are learning. I see progress every time they take the field and actually we talk a lot about the babies. I actually think a lot of this goal can say Kovic those performances a great. We still supplies coming back from injury will be nice to have ruben leftist cheek in that kind of player coming back at some point even though still some uncertainty about when exactly he's going to return to the team same facility. I thought this was a seismic one filled where relief I mean. It wasn't always pretty forty. Six point seven four percent possession lowest recorded by pet guardiola. Well aside which is remarkable arguably who've relying on Kevin Debris in doing something and I think in this case a sloppy goal and a moment of inspired more magic but for them to lose back to back games and be effectively at the title rate would have been to have pat play our a season in a stench of failure. Not One of these use tape and it could really have only ended badly so to me. This was all may day suddenly hyperbolic regime saving victory. We disagree on the big takeaway from this game to me. The big takeaway was just how much of equality gap there was between Liverpool Leicester and the rest of the Champions League contenders to me. Both of those teams. You're a level above the right now or on top of Manchester City in Chelsea. I don't think there's a big difference between those three sides and I think man city if I had to back one of those sites to finish second in the league. I'd say it's going to be Manchester City overall. I don't see there's a huge gap between them. I think Liverpool I hadn't shoulders about all of them Crystal Palace. One Liverpool to palace looked to have started the scoring from a set-piece just before half-time when James Tomkins mm kipnes headed home only to have it chalked off the bar from a you brother infringement on Dejean lover in Saudi-omani then put livable ahead in the forty nine. Th Minute Wilfried. Czar pull palace level on eighty two minutes but just three minutes after that scrappy. Bobby chompers stick back scoop spoilsport. Livable Keeping Cardiac club and Co eight points. Clear at top the table. It's like it's like watching. This was like a virtual game that was played by the computer. We've seen this so many times before and it is astonishing. Is this astonishing. Liverpool had suffered just one defeat in their past fifty one premier league matches and they keep on finding a way to win and this one without most seller our Over any real calibration control the game or energy and it doesn't matter I mean palace. Respect organized unflappable. So Roy Hodgson we created chances. Took the lead that James Tomkins header off the near Post Fleet Liverpool's vulnerability again the setpiece but vast stepped in. Ah to rule it off. Reputat off the ball Porsche on Levin. He's one though Dave if you look at the hurly-burly on any set piece in the premier emily in slow motion. Wouldn't you find in the fence if you want. Well Yeah and I think when you're talking about fences of momentum of force of acceleration. It's very difficult to look at those in slow motion. I think that Var should only be looking at incidents like that of contact within the box. I think they should only be looking at them in regular speed because they don't happen in real life in slow motion they happen in regular speech. I don't think there's any way for them to call. What really happened in slow almost to the rescue again? Football Var is a red von. Ever walks alone at David. Meyer Roy. Hodgson's reaction on the sideline because mismanages would have been livid. You have to get up on the sideline at scream at the fourth official Royal Hudson. He doesn't really know what's going on. It's not love. He just sat there. I'm not great liberty to but the thinking around an assistant what's for necessitated. The set assistant actually going all the way back in history and explaining this Kony invention. Eventually the radio television could electricity. Roy Wish Watch gaslight great way my. He's still we'll have candles with lines around them. Measure the time of day like King. Al Davis I walked. Motion is so God loves huge respect for that gentleman. He'll my father is probably the last man in the world to just wear a Cape solely so they can put over puddle and let someone walk across when it's raining Liverpool punish palace forty eight minute. Manny Manny to the rescue again fifth time in five games against palace for me to Robo Manny off Gary K hill off the goal keeper of both post. Just like he worked in Training Day. Yeah so livable. But so palace. Because they didn't they just kept coming forward. We'll have the local boy eighty second minute. Yeah and very very good goal. What's Shakin last night? And if you actually watch Zack has more ground running backwards. Then I think they young halfway. ooh Yeah exactly scenes at Selhurst Park a goal. Well no even Var could wave off but even as I celebrated and I will say over celebrated I go out with my kids of the group chat even touch. The group route chat won't go too many. Even Ima joy there was instant dread that Liverpool would find the way today and find the way they did. Eighty fifth. Minute describes what happened. I mean it's ridiculous thing I mean from that Corner Kick Chompers of all people. You don't see him as a guy who gets in there and picks picks up scraps. He's not a corner scrap kind of if we did a top. We should do the top ten list of the likely scores from corner scraps and he did it. They agonizing palace defended had one-two-three tied. Chances to clear it up. They didn't bobby did what cops towards him can't stop won't stop. Never give up keep charging the club's eleventh goal this season scored after the seventy six minute they even had the ability to ensure hap- loon the wide open. Chance wave of the ball at the death. How do you explain it Dave I they have a very strong winning mentality coupled with a bit of good fortune and opponents who now it's become the self fulfilling link prophecy right that they their opponents feel weaker because they've seen Liverpool comeback so many times they believe that Livable GonNa come back and say therefore fold great? Gop and Liverpool Fan Matt Good and Chamois tweeted the ancient Egyptians believed. Everyone died twice once when they're so leaves body once in the final five minutes have a little uh historical facts if by the die by the soul the road. It's it's very very tough way to keep winning season. It says a lot about on the one hand. It says a lot about at Liverpool that they keep on winning like this but I think that there are a livable fans would like to see a few more three nil. Four nil five victories. Well enjoy the doping. It doesn't matter what happens against Sheffield United. Three Man United Three Roger Six thriller in Yorkshire Sheffield for high scoring the most cricket matches in Yorkshire Shepherd. United took a two nil lead only to have Manchester United Babies. Nineteen year old debutante Brandon Williams eighteen year old Mason Greenwood and twenty two year old old Grad students senior baby. Marcus rash beans. They each tallied in the span of seven minutes to breathe life into Ali gunners courts but in the ninetieth minute Scottish. Brian Scholar Breen. He's told ginge only better. Knee rolled my eyes rods tied the game and set the steel city crowd alight. What a game of football was only going to Seoul skill under even more pressure than normal now partic- swinging single and back swiping away at growing each took the field with Phil Jones at the back which is like trying to use a cocktail as as a fig leaf for you down below 's bellwether of how far he's fallen would sheffield play to win? And my God they did David they would just feel confident. Surging urging Mussa in Norwood charging Phil Johnson. Pulled Harry Maguire. The Heya Making Wizard Phil Double Saves. But they couldn't keep him out nineteenth minute amazing Moussay Moussay down the right and he just he manhandles Iraq. Does he manhandles isn't a big enough. What he did he wrecked? He read James Phil Jones fully. Watch this eleven thousand times you know. And it said great players low center of gravity. Donna Art Jace Full James. This got the highest center of gravity. Any football I've ever seen hits higher than it is actual center of gravity. That's somehow poised around his neck back on the floor. It's something hitting him. In the face flack get hit by the rebound from Lindstrom goes right and and Sheffield United. They sing song about the simple joys of life greasy chip buddy song but taking the lead just waited even bear even better than the Komo eleven thousand times because I noticed something when we were in the clips yesterday that I found amusing. Definitely the the The seating the defensing Phil Jones on the place. Great right but if you watch when the goal finally get sold lease moussay is has a bit of a bit of a warbler. He's just not very happy about it and it's because the the the blog stopped it being an assist him after manhandled Jones. He didn't get the assist. And there's a player on an incentive contract who gets paid for an assist and you just watch his reaction after he goes insane because he doesn't get the contract driven football always amazing always about the spreadsheet united. Couldn't keep him out. Continue to defend we've all the Organization of Flamingo Trophy Celebration. Musaian flack taking advantage again to make it to now when it happened as the only shocking thing about Sheffield United Leading Manchester United to nail is. How unsurprising the whole thing feels? I mean no great testament to the deterioration of united under the glazes and that united stumbled bumbled. But the two nil lead. I move say limped off with a tweak. It's things started to change Phil Elka said after the game. He said when we went to nil up he felt young team became tense nervy like Totoro walkers looking down at their feet and the fearlessness of you for did them in David United Three one young substitutes to turn the game three and six minutes all school buy grads from the club's Academy was magnificent. First First Gulf from Brandon Williams Paul driver with his mom. I pointed out how fully wrongfoot with position Mois celebration. Humanly nineteen go. I go away and wonder yet the maturity to joke back. We put the fans and say let's get an equaliser which came for meeting Greenwood played the baby's he's great ball from rash stabbed home for his first Premier League goal eighteen years of age after we say that the great statistician immediately tweeted Mason Greenwood. The first is play younger than I. Tunes to school. Abram yearly Joe Hundred Thirty seconds later the third cane Dave reborn rash making us all the words. Detroit Marcus Rochford becoming a leader. It's amazing what happens. You put younger players on the team and Sunday Rashtra looks at things. Yeah I've got my density. I'm the leader of the baby. I'm the only one of a Susan. Chanted Puberty Yeah let me speak up in the locker room and he did. He made his e tell words we had to say only Eugeniusz would is how you spell sabermetrics glitches. Were wrong you about you. You are actually goto owners at Burger. Money Jeff O.. P. tweeted this you wrenching their name on the came back against Sheffield United Trophy. Speak Week and then it was came back. Also to pursue Bolivar McBurney. Yeah all much better than me uses nipple yapping yeah bring the ball down and then volleyed home gold. So thrilling so filled with joy even for didn't have the heart to destroy it. I was on the sea in that mode. I was just like most happy fulfil Phil Jackie. Alka Davey after twelve seasons evident finally finally getting to play on a good. He loves stripes. He likes a stroke also. So made me feel jewelry for the primarily. David the mayhem. The twist turns the heroes villains that pendulum swinging and in real time and spooling with the willed watching both sets of fans experience every human emotion in just ninety minutes. He got whiplash in the safest possible way when they lost they got a result. Our Vet said the remarkable Chris Wilder after the game. Dave managers could have said the same thing ole left to suggest that united second off rally suggests progress which is governed Belsen from Silicon Valley. Were Hooley only they got a great analogy who the permanently would suddenly these uh-huh governed Hooley. We start chanting gain you just crappy raw copy. Her team continue to be beatable in every facet and above all mentally weak man. United Mentally weak is hard to conceive picture united twenty points behind Liverpool three months into the season arsenal. It's not much better for you. Arsenal fans to Southampton to listing arsenal forced to come from behind twice against the lowly Saints Rabbit Hutches side there firstly through favourite plural jared football boots Danny ings before lacquer pulled arsenal level in the second half the hipster. Pick the young player of the year. After five years running James Ward prowse pounce on his own penalty rebounds to put the saints up a second time. But with virtually or as emory I would say birch elite the last kick of the ball lacquer equalised for a second time but it's not enough to prevent the din of revolution of the emerets from reaching a fever. Pitch Painful what coaching this emory's team had won. Four Ralph Hampton role in bleeding after eight losses in twelve games and just dominate the Game Ryan Bertrand. Quick mind quicker. free-kick leaving aims to say good evening as the funds just toxic toxic and even worse on twitter David when I go went in. We're in that that surreal death rattle memories tenure where also funds celebrate goals against them because they wanted him out half but they're actually really lucky. Didn't get fired last week. Or they could have ended up. Josie Marina that would be very difficult. I mean lack twice bell the second one with exquisite finish I mean just a fantastic control and exquisite poke to stop Southampton having their first win hours north since one thousand nine hundred seventy should've had they really dominated ninety seven but when Lisa Lisa and cult jam was still a thing but both times like a belt. No joy no celebration just a numb Schroeck. The equalizer probably only means that Ralph hasn't Hell is going to be fired as well. Arsenal in their longest premier league winless run in eight years. Only good now. During international break saved fans celebrate celebrate sacked. In the evening they kept singing. You're going to be sacked in the evening. As reports of a search abound Allegri Juventus pep assistant in an exoskeleton icon. mckellan Patrick Vero may Dave and even postulating Timorese arsenal worsen Tesla's cyber truck Brighton. NIL LESTER STA to in a IOS e Perez cap counter and Jamie Vardi penalty his league-leading twelve th goal of the season. See the Fox's crews on the South Coast Lester are in second place eight points behind around Liverpool. They've won their last five in a row by a combined score of seventeen goals and continue their best. Ever start to a premier league season. You heard that right. Those of us who marveled at their five two thousand to one dream come true Gloria. They lent less. They are so consistent. Brendan Rodgers started the same eleven for the fifth time in a row and for the fifth time they emerge victorious various took sixty four minutes to school. But they're so patient. I mean Bryan. Even enjoying their best bowler the game emboldened committed too. Many men forward susceptible to the left the counter Vardi run on Kgo shot the world that need a one on one with the keeper. What did he made a pass? Made a big boy pass which is to me. Passed it for Peres. which is to me is the symbol of the collective spirit that broadcasters fostered in Leicester City the Father Verdes dishing is? I mean is mind blowing left less defense singing. We're going to win the league. We're GONNA win. The League Brendan has promises to keep on Mars to go before he sleeps on this campaign Dave but less next games Everton what -Ford Norwich Villa Aka point two points points and the confidence knowing they're always make ten points clear of fifth-placed. Can they win the League David. I'm it statistically possible. I think Liverpool. It's there are two ways of looking at what Liverpool as I said either the fact that they're winning these close games winning with goals scored in the last ten minutes is the mark of champions. or It's a sign of vulnerability. We'll have to see what happened. I think in Brendon Rojas. MIND EITHER WAY BRIDGE TWINS IT my Liverpool on my letter. The team that bridge built on the team that bridge built. Yup Yup David Born with one wolves to Leicester's over punching Portuguese. A cousin. Wolves extend their unbeaten run to eight Games Downing The ten man cherries a blistering free-kick from China for L. Trees. Row Jimenez Eh. His sick that the season but this one beyond reach wolves are up to fifth place that wohlsen crisis storyline. There's evaporated Nuno in this team no longer and done by the rape. Elite elite poisoned. Chalice Saturday's Bora stretch of Unbeaten League. Run to eight games. They are fifth above Manchester United Above Spurs above arsenal seven points off fourth. And yes knowing points off the relegation zone but aren't we all we won't mention out. This season is crazy. What would know Burnley three? The Lancashire Bash brothers run Ryan the London on suburbs. A goal apiece but Chris would and actually bonds plus one from James Tarkovsky see the claritin surgeon to seven. Meanwhile of just eight points from thirteen games Q. S. and in co- rock bottom tone to get half aggressee back as manager for a second crack exactly Aston Villa to view castle mill. Two first half goals in the span of four minutes from the Irish Egyptian one two punch of Connor Houlihan and Anwar Al Ghazi Lifting Smith's lot over the tune in Burma Ube. The victory stops a three game losing skid for the villain so holly that Walk Lie. Can Irish Egypt Sean. Steve Bruce Turner clubby fide and was forced to relive in the bill. That what he called one of the most savory moments of Miladin when the disgruntled Villafane through a cabbage is not that you have to relive. I don't moments los as massive champions the true or whatever he was interviewed said I thought it was a ball. To begin with. It was a big old thing that cabbage. It just must have been a moment just before the cabbage his head. Some of must have that photo where you've got the cabbage Steve Bruce's head cartel the difference silence in interview. And then he goes Phil Decides Okay by saying how the phone call. That cabbage into the stadium are the lax security to me but if you do stick a cabbage down you can get through. Airport Security Big Win for his replacement Dean Smith three consecutive defeats and they'd by her hand in Greeley issue with the difference. Big Question coming in from GOP type data a Spanish broadcast that just referred to jonjo shelving as the most beautiful bold in the premier league. Do you agree or we should add that in the golden blaze a competition then at the end of the top ball if we should do bull shaving cream is listening and would like to sponsor A. We'll get on it. I'd love that. BARBASOL is shaving cream. I love that well. Let's get that spot. The answer off the top of our head is no. He's not the most precious bald in the premier league. US pointed this out it's probably hurricane. Recap problems in multiple sectors going on for hurricane not noticed it before noticed this weekend or David Louise both of which remind us of the old the old wrestling joke doc hulk Hogan he's got a lot of hair for a bull guy I wrote. We're just delaying the inevitable. Everton Norwich go to your beloved Everton full at home. It's a Nudie promoted Noord city with quite hard roads and GOP at. John Rapley wants to know. Will you guys still cover the league next season after Everton get relegated with producer J. W. following which town that will just has become championship. Show I imagine roger my thoughts. My kids are actually. They're engaged in this relegation thing then. A deep next essential links thanks. There is no bottom evidence of been reduced to a cumbersome shambles. We are wide open at the back. We are clueless upfront and the terrifying thing about evidenced in the middle of the city six in the League for chances created and second for shots conceded which is just devastating statement of who they are offended failed Malkic Silva folks much year. We were afraid to play football today. Always think is that I mean we'll say truth nor at Drexel they organize themselves. They would come. They will lethal and the best thing I can say. I'm trying to be positive. This year is evident consistent. We've now lost to all three. Newly leap promoted teams which is kind of trophy for that Sharon Shannon big-heartedness. What is going on? You're an Everton side of you. Have all the inside information. You're an observer you know the traditions you know the history this lab you could you could read it. You could see yourself at an underground tank and feel your way towards what's going on. I'm sure you're closer to it than that. What is going to happen at Everton? Roger Bennett well I think the only thing keeping Marco silver in a job right now is just the lack of clarity on who the hell would replace him. Spurs Grab Marino and kind of set the standard for mid season changes quite high evidence linked in. This is the just oh this is just the sound of me regurgitating sick in my mouth to former Everton manager David Moyes David mortars and mark used news on an interim basis. That would just be. I mean you think about this. Jesus Christ other Jon Snow and David Moyes advert and just about resurrection and second coming that it would be his muffin. King do anything yet. Because you look at who we play Leicester Liverpool in the Darby. And now Leah Thrashing Rushing Chelsea Manchester United also the next five games. Are you kidding me. Wow New we played our easy game that we played. This is an extra get less that Liverpool Chelsea Manchester United on next. I guess no new manager wants to be thrown into that cauldron that could be fired before they can say. The word Chink committed. No who points after five games for new manager at data. Imagine the most everything thing of all time is that we would fire silver. mcsherry will tell people in London. Do whatever it takes to get Spurs burs old manager and we'll somehow ended up with tim show within the next weekend by your own. Ah This is David. Here's my twenty twenty vision. They had at the final whistle the weekend. Liverpool are GonNa win the title in Twenty Twenty. Appetite could very welby relegated when I thought about it not sure which one is going to destroy me more. If I'm being honest wow I don't think Everton going down. I just don't think they're that interesting. I think that they're going to sit there. They're going to finish seventeenth. Bite your arm off from worldly interesting. Can we drink some yeah. You're giveaways we're going to get their your Thanksgiving weekend. Looks like this begins at seven thirty. Am Eastern time with Newcastle versus man. City Three Games in that ten times this week with the League leaders as Liverpool Hosting Brighton Spurs format and Chelsea hosting London rivals West Ham and Sunday eleven thirty A. M. Eastern time. It's lester hosting your Everton. In the broad Roach Darby all those gains on the family of networks. Have a prophetic shot of yagan. Each never give me one of these. Let me do this hold on one. Second let me pour it into my gloss. It's a big one touchily a coffee mug. We smells so good. It's my favorite podcasts. The podcast on. Oh my God I need this year Morton ever less the city. Everton is more than the game. David David Muhdad Joy Committee for Thanksgiving landing just about now. Oh so I'm going to watch this game with my kids. Matab three generations rations of blues together. My kids at despairing they're starting to cling onto any shred of evidence that will say from relegation that painful able to watch games with zero patients. And the first mistake he just starts dumping on the team called. What are you doing? He is that man and it is a poisonous this combination of my kids frail confidence and my dad's just overbearing dog. She achim ice says bare-bottom spanking unless the five Everton warn. Then right into the Dobie at don't know if humanity will survive big arguments over Thanksgiving in the household broom tension. God Man What are you doing I and my leg my sorority taste of a drink. That should only be consumed by those over the age of twenty one which is back news from my Chelsea babies road. I see them dropping points against West. Ham I'm going to school full. He'll it'll be probably six six America. There are many other ways to connect with plan now extend temps on employment transforming baseball monotone in the building. What he putting the on this book? I'll tell my parents and introduction Slash this does not belong long. Ta by Alexander The boss novelist huffing. He's a Liverpool Fan unleashes two conjoined memoirs two front covers is two title pages reflecting on similar themes triggered by is refugee experience. His family at rooting from their homeland in Sarajevo then in Yugoslavia now writhing on these magnificent shores at rooting in the process the most primal part of their identity. The story they tell themselves about themselves the core foundational myth every family has wanted. It's broken the few things that can be more profoundly disorienting in ways Marlena and Major. This is a book book that explores nostalgia the boundaries of the word catastrophe which we use as he points out boo for genocide and win. A football team loses by three goals or more and also saw the sorry. If you love the work if I'M ON IS I. Do you let this book. The questions asks and the journey he takes you his the life journey. It's getting colder in the northeast. Rajin all over the country. You're putting your heating on her terms for the ball. People are getting calls do you remember. VICKS VAPOR RUB as. There's a kid do you remember putting Vicks vapor rub on your chest and foul used to bring it in woman hands and rub on the Red Vic still to this day on their chest. You often see the mark on the shirt vicks feature of they think it opens up the lungs. Teddy will also opens up your lungs Roach London. I'm telling you it is the IT doctors in the emergency. It is the as I open my phone. It is the VIX. Warm Mist humidifier. One gallon auto shuttle filter free. It's the V.. Seven four five if you're following home for the model number thirty five. Nine thousand. Nine hundred rooms humidifier made by vicks. Rod is like getting a whole room full of Vicks Vapor. Rub Open you up at night. I'm always looking for ways to sleep better. 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Hour 2 - Sam Mellinger (05-29-20)

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Hour 2 - Sam Mellinger (05-29-20)

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Melander he covers the Kansas City chiefs for the city star. He'll join US coming up a little bit. The Popular Rebecca Lobo on loan from NBC she courses the host of the Primer League. She will join us. Premier League is coming back in a couple of weeks the premiership and feels like they're just coming back to say all right let's make it official so Liverpool can finally get a title Liverpool's first since nineteen ninety. Yes because they're what twenty five points ahead of everybody else. They can't lose this. It's a coronation for polly's Liverpool squad and Fritzy's got a kit on today a Manchester United name one player but they figured with Rebecca. I should wear something soccer related so found this in the deep recesses of my closet stand up. Let's see when it looks like that. Oh yeah okay. Can't you your Red Kit Manchester United there? What happened to Manchester United? They've had about a four year stretch where they just can't get back to that top four level and they keep churning through different players. They keep spending money they just have a four year window just whipping basically And then Liverpool got the right guys about two years ago and a run. Is this a big deal for you for Liverpool? Yes no for you yes. I'm a pretty long term Liverpool fan probably about sixteen seventeen years now and come close a few times a few years ago they had it within their grasp and there was a horns mistake by star player and I of course have my Liverpool hat that I've had for. How long have I had this four weeks? No longer now couple months months. I've had this Liverpool. You timed it outright. Front runner well. I learned from my kids. They they like somebody right away. It's like oh I've been fan of theirs for like a year. I'm curious what Patriot fans are going to be like this year because they they love the Patriots and Tom and your a super bowl team what if New England goes nine seven this year maybe ten and six if all goes well. What if they go wait? How dedicated to those fans going to be. If you're not a super bowl caliber team. Yes yes sure will be interesting to see that. Are you still going to be a patriot? Fan Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah. It's definitely a patriots household for sure. Although we're much more interested I know I am for sure in seeing. What the buccaneers do. That'll be fun. But it's definitely a patriots out if I said. The buccaneers were going to go far in the playoffs or the Patriots. We're GONNA go far in the playoffs. I would take the Patriots. Although I don't know I guess both are really interesting storylines from from what we do for a living A. I think both are pretty interesting. I saw where Brady's SUV's for sale. Yeah that looks bad not too bad. It looks boring. It looks comfy. And what does it looks like the inside of a private jet. But it's three hundred thousand dollars Tom. Brady Suv no wait. What does the do you can lounge any your got. A couple of chairs recline has got a thirty two inch TV. He said that it was his sanctuary that it helped him after games when he would be driven home in any could watch film and I can look at it and you go three hundred thousand dollars. You can take a tour of it. It's got you know. Find the finest Italian leather. Natch is every Italian leather the finest Italian leather. Because it feels like that right. Is there a subprime? Italian weather like this is average Italian leather but if it was it's the finest Italian leather and It looks really comfortable. But it's it's sort of a beige interior little bland. Yeah a little bland ski. Yes Paul how come stuff and other countries is always better like Italian leather? You Know Himalayan Sea salt. We don't have sea salt here. They don't have seesaw down in a near New Orleans or something. Something there is always better. But it's because you can't. It's not readily available this. This is Italian marble. Oh Italian Macho crap. Yeah and if you get shoes the Italian shoe yes ton g need like a Jacuzzi and a brick oven accepting more than for three hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn't that be cool if there was a way to fit many Jacuzzi you? Can you know big some pizza and there in the back you gotTa have something more than base in reclining chairs and a couple of TV sets? I don't know if you're a brady fan is that. Who's going to buy this night? I'm assuming you'RE GONNA. You're spending three hundred thousand dollars to sit. We're Tom Sat yes. I love that Peek. Into what todd would do if he won the lottery. Let's say todd one three hundred million dollars he would get an escalate and inside of it he would put a Jacuzzi end a pizza of it. That's what he would do if he had unlimited wealth. Those are the things like right off the top of his. What don't you want a Jacuzzi oven little mini hotdogs limits? You actually stop and listen to what Todd says when I hear it I just keep moving you do to me out. Don't you want like a Jacuzzi and a pizza oven? You sit in a Jacuzzi Yourself. A little snack on your way. Home Jacuzzi roadies time. Who's going to cooking? 'cause you don't do well if I could up to three hundred thousand dollar vehicle I'll have someone that's a my Beck and call. That could make these things. I'm not doing it. Three hundred thousand dollar. Suv Car three hundred thousand dollars. I know but it's on an airplane. Understand if you're buying certain cars like Steve McQueen's Porsche. All right I get. It spent a million dollars on something like that. A collector's item there. There are certain cars out of movies here but Tom's SUV for three hundred large. If he got all that money though why not spend it to make yourself as comfortable as you could be? I is one of the benefits of being. Just filthy. Rich is that you like just comfort but if I have the money. Why am I not doing that for my own? Suv instead of taking Tom's leftovers here okay. It's when the rich people buy a house and then they tear it down. It's because they can okay. I see the difference right right. Why would you could just get your own three hundred thousand dollars? Are you getting Tom? Yeah got it. Maybe I want team colors in there. I mean it's it's nice but it looks like the inside if I said all. What is this you'd say? Oh looks like the inside of a private jet there but three hundred thousand dollars for Tom's SUV. Yes mclovin. When I was in high school I got to drive. My parents minivan for a year. And everyone said wow you must get a lot of action in the back of that seriously people's like were you talking about but nothing cooler than a minivan by the way when you're yeah but when you have kids. I know it's one of those. It was really hard to pull the trigger on an s for minivan. Who had one? Yeah Yeah had a minivan a seven round there. I don't remember it's all Blur Paul would do you approve it. Or what did they get past the goalie? I knew we needed it because we had four kids under the age of Seven. And I just remember you gotta strap them in and I said all right. We're good to have enough baby seats in there. But when you go and you're going to spend some money on a mini van. There's so much that goes through your head where you go. This is the end like this is giving up. Its over sweatpants. Yes I'm GONNA have socks with sandals I I'm in trouble here yes there was a moment sort of not giving up when you realize that you're sort of living a cliche is that I was sitting in. I had I was in a Prius in the whole foods. Parking lot with my wife and my dog and I was like. Oh my God. You're right out of a commercial this and like I stopped in the moment and I was like Babe. Look at what we're doing right now. Look at what. Just how did this happen? How did we get here? How did this happen? And you've you've vowed that it won't happen. I I wonder a minivan rock and roll till I die. Not next thing you know. Got a minivan. Yeah polling up for a soccer game wild by the way. This didn't take very long. Chat row a brandon in Florida. Yeah saying he would by Tom. Brady's SUV but it gets horrible gas. Mileage do you know why Andrew Visit Tires are deflated? Tyres deflated zing. All right that would stung fritzy. The gift that keeps on giving a little beaten up by now. Yeah yeah all right mclovin you wanted to talk about the NBA. The the play in proposal here. Yeah put up a poll which is the best system Play in with Twenty Teams Play Tournament with twenty teams. Go Straight to sixteen playoffs or try to have a regular season and a normal playoffs if you're the NBA Mark Cuban's Mavericks would have the most to lose in a plane scenario under previously discussed terms that would include the teams that are seventh through tenth in the conference standings. The mavs are seventh right now in the western conference standings with a forty and twenty records. Seven Games ahead of the eighth place Memphis Grizzlies but this is how close Dallas is to the fourth seed overall. We're going to have them in the play in scenario. Apparently I'm looking at the Standings in the West the Lakers have forty nine wins. Clippers have forty four. The nuggets have forty three jazz. Have Forty one then. It's Oklahoma City Houston and Dallas. All with forty wins so which that tightly bunched plus with Utah. Losing one of its better players by Donna Bitch. They may be an early exit team. I saw where the Rockets Jim Daryl. Morey said that he likes this scenario as an advantage for the rockets their deep team. And they're tough team to kind of prepare for with Russell Westbrook and James Harden and he said sort of like our chances here but The Lakers right now with forty nine wins and then they're going to open up against a whoever's GONNA come out of that with the the eighth seed overall. I feel like we've played enough games. That Memphis deserves to be in there. I thought Yama rant. Jaren Jackson know the eighth seed. You've earned it. It feels like and I'm sure that thank God David Stearns not still the NBA Commissioner the late Great Commissioner. Because he'd be yelling at me right now because I'm going to say the following feels like the NBA certainly wants to get Zaylon Williamson into the playoff picture. Here in New Orleans. I love watching them. I would love to see Zairean play a couple more games. But if I'm looking at the standings here the PELICANS are four games behind Memphis. The Blazers are three games behind. Just feels like we're going to extend this and extend this for the opportunity. For Zion Williamson. I just get nervous in how people are going to perceive this all. Are you making concessions to get a team or player in here? I wanted to be about fairness it feels like it's a little bit for marketing as well and it might be fairness in the marketing here. If you're the commissioner. I don't want to accuse him of anything. I'm just telling I haven't heard anything. I get the feeling how do we get Zion Williamson in the playoff picture? And I do believe mark. Cuban is okay with this format. I'm paraphrasing mclovin. But did Mark Cuban saying. I'll take the bullet on this and we'll have our team in there even though they're not really a seventh seed overall. Yeah I believe. Cuban is all all about the twenty team playing tournament. I think he's proposed are he's at least supported that proposal. I get it now because given everything that's going on you don't WanNa be that guy who says well. This isn't fair. I don't know what is fair with all of this. But and now the San Antonio Spurs are you going to extend it so the Spurs can get in. I just feel like you get one shot do it right. The less teams the less risk. And if you're going to have sixteen teams in Orlando I don. I don't it. Let's put it this way if the Pelicans were the eighth seed. Would we be having a plan? Would we playoff format and I'm going against we probably wouldn't but that's just me that's just me. Yes Paul could you make the case at the the franchise don't want to be in the playoffs and don't want to have a playoff format? They have no chance except for technical chance to win the NBA. Title This Year Putting Zion Williamson on the court after this long lay-off could only endanger him for next year. Is that fair? Well I guess you can look at that. But he's had a long lay-off here because we weren't sure Reggie Miller and I had conversations in December where we didn't know of Zion. Would even come back this season. Now we're talking about. Can you get Kevin Durant back for the playoffs? That would be a bigger risk to me. Having Kevin Durant Comeback Than Having Zion Williamson's season extended by a week or so. Yeah mclovin one. Mark Cuban really and you mentioned this earlier in the week really want regular season games to he wants before so he doesn't want the CB said he wants a few more regular season games so maybe people up or down okay. But he's saying that because we're his team is right now they're seventh but they're tied with two teams with forty wins and they can move up and maybe supplant. Utah there who has forty one went. And if you'RE GONNA five regular season Games Mark Cuban is saying maybe that we can take the mavericks out of this plan scenario there. I I like the plan scenario. Just because it's if it's one game between two teams and then one game between two teams and then they face each other and then they go in. What are the other teams do or is it just? I'm just trying to figure out how you get this done. So you're GONNA have each team play. And then they win and then that's it that's the that's the playoff format one through eight in the East and West mclovin. Yeah Cuban does want to split up in the East and West not crossover. What I'm reading now. What about this World Cup thing where they'd have different pools? It seemed like the the latest is jammed. Were not into that. I think the commissioner was into it but that was when we didn't have the pandemic when we were going to have maybe middle of the season tournament here with that kind of World Cup format. There is that very much different than sort of the way the NCAA does the the the tournament and the brackets. And what's the difference between the East and the West and the whatever I don't think so it's just you only have four teams here and then four teams here you know with World Cup. So you're it's but some some places get a tougher. Draw the others you know. I mean that's that's all part of the fun you know when you find out that Paris Saint Germain got the same places Liverpool or something like Dang. That's going to be awesome. I think the only difference is we don't know enough about the college basketball matchups where we do the NBA. If you're saying northern Iowa I don't know if there are any good and then all of a sudden you go northern Iowa was really good or this team is not as good as we thought with college basketball because I think the NBA. We get a larger sample size. And we have an idea because you have stars on there. How many times you go into March Madness Nego? I'll take Michigan State. Because they got Tom Izzo. No Take Syracuse again. Jim Behind all right. We'll take a break here. I want to talk to Sam melander. He covers the Kansas City chiefs. It's quiet right now but there are private discussions going on reportedly with Patrick mahomes agent in the Kansas City chiefs. I'm just curious timeframe of this of if you're Patrick Mahomes. When do you ask for your money? How much is guaranteed? Is it going to be attached to the salary cap going up or down in the coming years and do you WANNA do a four year deal? So you'll be twenty eight when you get into the next country the fact that you can have a quarterback who can get a contract. That's going to be a couple hundred million dollars in do that. Twice in your career is going to be pretty amazing for Patrick Mahomes. And what happens to Tucson Watson Dak Prescott? What happens with their salaries because you have to be watching. Now Find Mahomes. I don't I WANNA wait till Dak Prescott gets his money and I want to wait till to Shawn Watson gets his money and I want to see what the salary cap is going to look like. Because if you don't have fans in the stands and they've already said the salary cap could go down as much as I think. Twenty five percents. That sound right mclovin. Somebody reporting possibly thirty percents. Okay Yeah but you might have his salary attached to the salary cap if it goes it goes down but then when it goes up exponentially with the new TV deal. You could be looking at maybe fifty million dollars a year for Patrick Mahomes. So we'll get an update on the contract talks. They're coming up a little bit and Rebecca Lobo on loan from NBC ESPN. To talk about the return of the premiership. She'll join US coming up in a bound and our take a break here. It's twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to the Dan. Patrick Show podcast be sure to catch us. 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They selected Chris Webber and then they traded for Penny Hardaway after that God thought Penny Hardaway was going to change the NBA till he got hurt. He was a whole lot of fun. Sam bellinger. He covers Kansas City. Sports covers the Kansas City chiefs for the Kansas City. Star can't city Dot Com and the great columnist joins us on the program. Good Morning. Sam How are you? I'm good I'm good. How are you? I'm good? The these talks have been kind of quiet with Patrick mahomes which I think is good but well first of all are they going on. Yeah okay what? What is the sort of the parameters here the framework from each side of what they hope to get? Let me start with the Kansas City chiefs. What would be ideal for them to get with? Patrick Mahomes long-term employment of Patrick. This is the goal from the team for sure. I think that you know these talks have been going on and I think that there's a mutual. There's mutual ground here. Patrick wants to be with the chiefs. She's obviously want him here. Long-term he'll be the highest paid player in the League You know I think that's that's a wrap. It's just a matter of of of structure and figuring out exactly how to do it but also if you're Patrick Mahomes in his agent what is your strategy of how long and how much and then get that. Second he'll get another contract to. That's going to be a big one by before he's even thirty. Yeah and I WANNA be clear Chris Cabinet who is leading the leading the negotiations on on Patrick side. He's been he's been ice quiet You know the the insight that I'm getting from other people in the business and it is tantalizing for them because this is a possibility to really change future negotiations thing. That comes up when you talk to anybody in football really agents especially is nobody has ever had this kind of leverage you know league MVP the first year Super Bowl Mvp the second year playing at the first year and he's twenty four years old. He's changed a franchise. Kinda turned them from you know sort of a perennial postseason heartbreaker to you know possible. Next Dynasty in. She's so he's got them you know he can ask for whatever he wants. And that's what people keep talking about. Is this the time that that some gets tied to a percentage of the salary cap? That's something that some agents have wanted for a long time in teams have always resisted. Is it just a full guarantee? I know kirk cousins. Did that a couple of years ago. But this Patrick's numbers would always Leech warf that so it's it's sort of. I think what people around the game are looking at is not just the bottom line money which will be enormous. But it's also what kind of new precedents can be set. That can help other players but you if you tie it to the salary cap and if I'm going to follow what you pointed out in your column. Let's say the salary cap goes down. Twenty five percent mahomes is salary. Then go down but then it will go up exponentially with the long-term possibilities with the new TV deal in gambling involved in the NFL. Correct Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah I mean. Yeah. There's risk on both sides if you do that for sure. What kind of money? Though can you overpay for Patrick Mahomes? I don't think so I mean I just I feel like all the rules are different with him. You know when you look at his age and just what he's been able to do. There's no I tend to think about things like this like okay. If if he turns out to not be as good as we think he is right now if he just becomes a good quarterback not transcendent one. What is the reason? And I can't figure it out you know what I mean like. Is it his physical talent? Like obviously no is it is is mind obviously no. Is this work ethic. You never know how money can change somebody. But there's nothing in his background or sort of his personality. That makes you think he's a risk to sort of start. Mailing it in Once he gets paid the only thing that would concern me though. Sam Is. We've seen this before. Quarterbacks get their money and you know. Seattle built a team that was on the verge of a dynasty or mini-dynasty because Russell Wilson where he was drafted and how much he was making. We've seen this with you. Know teams trying to draft a rookie quarterback getting to play and then build. The team around him can sit. He's going to have some big ticket items and Chris Jones who could have been the MVP of the Super Bowl. He you know he might be a guy who gonNA pass the pay the price for mahomes getting his money. Yeah there's no question I mean they've got these are smart points that you're making they. Don't you know how these contracts work you can actually create some short term contracts or some short-term payroll space with a long term deal with with Chris Jones? Right like he's on the For what is it sixteen million something like that? Under the franchise tag you can create some short-term cap space by giving him a long term deal but the chiefs are in a really good problem. It's one of these good problems to have because they're paying good players but there was a moment. I think a week or two before the draft where the chiefs have a hundred and seventy seven dollars. Not One hundred seventy seven grand. One hundred and seventy seven dollars could not go out to eat as in a big group that so they've got some hard decisions but again. I mean these are the problems that you want. You want the problem to be like. How can we tie up? You know the best player in the game on term Saint Melander Kan city star joining us on the program Take me back to the draft and the Kansas City chiefs. Were moving up. And then you had Alex Smith. I believe coming off a pro bowl season and all of a sudden. You're drafting a quarterback. There what did the lose the local media reaction. Kan City Kelly was bonkers. And you have to remember that in Kansas City. It has been a long line of somebody else's backup quarterback there were starting for the chiefs. It was it was Trent Green. It was Steve. Berg Steve Bono was Joe Montana for two glorious seasons in the nineties but they had not drafted a quarterback in the first round since the nineteen eighty-three draft. But they came out of that with Todd blackledge while other people got famous so this has been a cry. I mean it was like almost part of Kansas City's almost embedded in Kansas. City's a sports fan is like why the hell hole the draft a quarterback in First Round. And when they it bright before that draft all the smokescreens at teams throw out but there was some talk that That they wanted to linebacker to stop the run and short term for that next season. Maybe that would have been smarter move. You know somebody to stop the run because we certainly saw that ended in the playoffs. But you know when when they traded up and it was not just a quarterback at a lot of people might be the Shawn Watson there right and he was You know the National Championship quarterback against Alabama the to men all all that stuff but when they took that's homes now you taking a really big swing right now. You're really going for the highest ceiling. You can get. I mean it was just. I think there was a nervous energy. You know like Oh my God. It finally happened. Hope it's the right move but it was also like finally at least at least they're taking their move and you know this covering drafts. I don't believe anything until used that day of or right before maybe the day before and I had an NFL scout. Who Said Your Guy? Mahomes is moving up now. He said my guy because I would come in every Monday until my guys. You GotTa Watch this guy. I don't know if he can play in the NFL. But he's as fun as any quarterback I've ever seen and my NFL scouts. Your guys moving up the draft board. I go what do you mean he goes? Oh no he's going top fifteen you got all these people say that. He's you know he's like far but he's you know he's going to be a little bit more of a project here like what happened where it's still an inexact science when we look at these quarterbacks and Mahomes is one of those classic cases of he was he was there. Everybody could have seen this or maybe had him. And what was it about him that we missed out on? I think that it was a lot of surface stuff to be honest with you. I think that you know if you go back in time to twenty seventeen you know the air rate that was that was a knock you know nobody ever come out of Texas tech or that system in and had a great career. There was some questions about how You know his handling of a huddle orders his grasp of a of a playbook that kind of thing because what you see on Tate we see on film is outrageous it is now in the NFL in certainly was at Texas Tech But you you sort of wonder you're just used to guys like that that these big numbers just not being able to do it in the NFL. For whatever reason I I think one thing that doesn't show up on tape with these. These outrageous highlights is how smart he is and how quickly he can grasp and how quickly he can absorb it own it and then move on. You know what I mean like this is. It is different with him for sure. You surprised chief. Strength to the running back that high. I was a little bit. Look I thought that they should've gone. defensive back with that. I pick and then got in your running back later. I just I believe that you can get value a little bit later on at that position. But you know quite Edwards Hilar- he is he is something different and when you watch him during the season step-by-step through a whole game and then certainly like you know the highlight takes. Now you can see exactly what the chief saw him in and how he is An unbelievable fit for that system. If he can protect you know. If you're GONNA play running back you gotta pass protect you to protect the franchise. But assuming he can he can learn that part of it It's absolutely ridiculous. They're going to be tough to stop. My can't help it. Go back to that knee injury with mahomes and what we thought at the time and what it could have meant. I mean that that was that was historical in in what it did for the franchise in a quarterback and other quarterbacks and you know legacy it was pretty. I was a big moment there. Yeah it was horrific right when that happened. I can't remember if it was McColl. Hardman or Taibbi one of the receivership demarcus Robinson Anyway. Taking their helmet off after they see what happened in the see. What would that look by? Taking their helmet often slam it into the ground. And when you see that kind of reaction you think this is more than sprained knee and then when you hear dislocated kneecap kind of makes you cringe. You know what I mean but then it was weird I remember. He's he's starting to walk off the field and he's got arms around and he's being helped and then you know damned if by the time he gets to the yard line. It's not walking on his own and it was just like what this guy is just different. And then you hear. These got like double jointed knee or something to gain working kneecap. It's absolutely insane. It should be fun to seat now. Does does Kansas City. Try to wrap him up before Dak Prescott into Shawn Watson her after the better question the cowboys at the Texans WanNa get those deals doubled. Patrick's going to get his money regardless. I don't think they really care what these other. Good stuff SAM. Thanks for joining us. Thanks gas-rich Sam melander Kansas City Star. This program brought to you by Mercedes. Gb prepared for whatever comes your way the all new t four door coupe because life is a race. Visit your local dealership test drive today if you missed any of our interviews this week or any week from the Mercedes. Am G. Man Cave. Go to the Dan. Patrick show APP watching. Listen from inside the Mercedes G. Man Cave Mercedes. Am G. Driving Performance? Couple of phone calls in here. Marcus in New Orleans joins us. Good Morning Markus Woody for me good morning and thanks for having me sure. I just wanted to point out the The PELICANS the remaining schedule was the easiest remaining schedule whereas Memphis had top. Five heart is scheduled so I think to leave leave. Our boys out would've been just not as fair. I guess but I get your point about the marketing. Was I on. Who wouldn't want to play more basketball? We love down here. Yeah I don't blame you I WANNA see him. I just don't want the the NBA to give the impression that they're sort of. How do we make this work? Where we Zion Williamson into the playoffs. Here yes and if you're so willing to publicly manipulate the playoffs to make sure Zion gets in there. What kind of public perception does that open up in terms of well? We'll get that. We're willing to manipulate the game here to make sure our stars in an interesting and the NBA has always had this sort of lingering suspicion about a lot of things you know accusations former official the Patrick Ewing lottery. I still go. I was there for the Patrick Ewing Lottery. And you're just watching this and I just remember watching David Bush's face because he was so excited former knicks great but he was so excited and if they may be don't understand maybe if you're not old enough to understand you know. Patrick Ewing was really really famous. Deal getting Patrick Ewing. In New York Marquee Franchise and I just remember saying somebody said in such a cynical way and I'm going well. There's no what well. What if they somehow fix the lottery? I go the camp. How do you fix the lottery? And then somebody says what if you put an envelope and it's cold and I go so then I'm going back in like CSI NBA. And I'm going wait a minute. Slow it down. Slow it down and I'm looking to see if you know. The commissioners hand is an ongoing. I can't I love sports too much. Just can't go. This conspiracy theory can't go that deep on it but man it exists still exists. And that's a you can't bring once again. The the late Gray David Stern. He'd be yelling at me right now. This is a total hypothetical but part of the job of commissioner is to make sport better for the fans. If you knew you weren't going to get caught and can fix draft to make a player go to a certain spot and you knew he wouldn't get caught like the frozen card you'll never get caught just you and your doughnuts. Would you do it ethically in your head? You know. You're not GONNA cost. You want to worry about that. You just have to worry about the ethics of it. Would you fix a sport for the good of the fans? Not if I'm a commissioner 'cause then like at what point do you say well? I'll do that but I wouldn't do that like if I could have. Found a few of the Commissioner and Could Have Place Zion Williamson on blank team New Orleans Fine. But if you could put him on blank team would you've done so some maneuver? Well I I would of New York. But New York doesn't deserve Zion Williamson that ownership doesn't deserve him. I wanted to make sure New Orleans captain. Nba Franchise because they've been in a state of flux and now you're in great shape and so if I want to make sure that I have franchises. That are all valuable to a certain degree. I think you're GONNA see two. Nba Franchises relocate. And you know one of those might be in Vegas. Maybe once in Seattle. But I just get the feeling that you know. Somebody's GONNA lose lose their franchise here. Poll somehow here's how you know it's a set of some. The PELICANS face the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs for the first out is it. Was Pelicans Lakers. Then you know the fixing wait. I thought it was just a one game playoff play in game. No no we WANNA do best to three. Yeah Zion lost the opener. He's got you gotta give him one more chance here. This is just all hypothetical. This is a couple of phone calls coming up. We'LL UPDATE THE POLL results who check in with Rebecca who host the Premier League on NBC. And they're back in business here at least coming up in a couple of weeks. 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They made a mockery of our team by putting a celebrity on it to sell more tickets. Apparently a reference to T. Bo who was signed in two thousand sixteen. I saw players lose their jobs because of it. We weren't playing to win. We were planning to make everyone else money. Not The players we never saw cut. Well allegedly one player did Tibo. Church were teammates. Class-a Saint Lucy for much two thousand seventeen and so not a good situation. A lot of minor leaguers out of their jobs here by the way the other thing speaking of Baseball Scott Boras agent to the stars Major League Baseball. He is an email that was received by the associated. Press from Scott Boras. He did not apparently send it to the Associated Press but they somehow got it maybe did Senate. He said don't bail out the owners. Don't take pay cuts here. Here's the only thing that I would like question. Scott Boris about with that philosophy with his players. These got over seventy marquee players is there are owners who don't want the season to come back. Major League Baseball Owners. Who Don't want this season to come back. I think that's what Scott has to understand. I'm sure he does. He's very bright man. But if you're saying that these players hey don't give them a break. Don't bail out the owners. You might be bailing out the owners by not coming back because there are some owners. Look at this and say I'M GONNA lose money here. I'm not the Yankees and I'm not the dodgers. I'm going to lose money here so I don't know what kind of progress we're going to have with this anytime soon but the players taking the risk here and that should be noted and reminded you people need to be reminded of that the players are taking the risk and there has to be a middle ground here to be fair to the players to come back with the risk. And they're going to lose money. Make it pro rated if you can get one hundred games in there and at least that's the starting point. Maybe you get eighty games here but some baseball's better the no baseball at least it feels that way but with no fans in the stands there will be owners who will not want the season to return. They don't want to spend the salary and then they don't get any fans they don't get any concessions. They're not getting any of that money there but from what I'm told there are owners who will not want to come back and play Shane in North Carolina. Johnson Shane when you have for me. Hey of course. I'm caller love the show. Thank you saying I was just GonNa Commiserate on your minivan misery Twenty years ago became a dad for the first time. One of the greatest things in my life but I drove onto a car lot in a Nissan Red to forty Essex. Two seater with a stickshift. Drove off the lot in a Green Nissan quest minivan with a built-in VHS play around. Yeah killing I'm thank you I can. 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