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The Disappearance of Lisa Spence, Part 1 | 4

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The Disappearance of Lisa Spence, Part 1 | 4

"Edwards is that his mother's house when the tax comes into his phone, it's November fifth, two thousand nine. His mom's just a half mile from his small efficiency apartment in the sprawling suburban city of Miramar, Florida. The Texas from Paul's girlfriend of many years. He and thirty five year old. Lisa spends met long ago in the Caribbean island of Trinidad. Just off the northern coast of South America. Paul persuaded Lisa to move to Florida. So they could be together in the year since they've had their ups and downs. Lately, it's been a lot of downs. Lisa's text to him. This Thursday seems simple enough. If cryptic it says, just wait till I got better. But it's not so much what her message says that stunning. It said he got a text from her at all. Lisa spent had vanished a month ago after returning home from a night shift at work. Nobody has seen her since. And now from out of the blue, she's texting Paul Edwards. From the south Florida sun sentinel in association with one very, this is baloney as Florida. The podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host, Kate Austen along with reporter Ortega. And this is part one of the disappearance suspense. Bella beauty supply sits in the middle of tiny strip mall. That's typical of so many others around Florida. It's painted stark white with a flat low roof on one side is a quick stop convenience store on the other side is a chiropractor as office, a tiny hair salon and shop offering psychic readings. The entire strip mall has enough parking spots for no more than thirty cars, small airplanes buzz overhead landing and taking off from tiny north Perry airport directly across the street, a large neon open sign hangs on Bellas double doors. It's two windows are covered with posters of smiling. Women modeling hair weaves and Hairsprays. Lisa Rhonda Spence works there when the manager needs her off and on Fridays and Saturdays, she also works at the quick stop next door where she's a cashier. That's where she is on the night of October seventh, two thousand nine on a four hour shift. She works hard holding both jobs to support our family from afar. Especially your seventeen year old daughter, thirteen year old son. She hopes to save enough money to someday move them from Trinidad to Florida. She dreams of the three of them living together in America. On that Wednesday night. She takes a break from her shift at the quick stop to call her daughter and Trinidad. Sixteen hundred miles away. Surly is just a few days from her eighteenth birthday leases at work. So she can't talk for long. She promises she'll call sir. Lean back later by eleven that night. She hasn't. Sisterly calls her back and she calls and she calls. No answer from her mom. She tries again the next morning and again, no answer. It's unusual behavior for Lisa Spence, something must be wrong. Lisa's scheduled to work a shift at the strip mall that morning, but she doesn't show up. Her co workers and her boss don't even get a call from her. Lisa responsible employees and has many people in her life who matter to her. Family kids, friends who love her. Days pass, and none of them sees Lisa. She's vanished. It took a few days for word to reach. Lisa sister-in-law, Philadelphia. Averell Absalom is falling asleep. Late Saturday night when a relative calls from Trinidad to say, Lisa is nowhere to be found. Ever get some sleep. But as soon as she wakes up in the morning, her mind, races about release could be. That's strange. And you know, I think I. And sending money. I got up in course Trinidad. Again, I said that you should tell me this and she said, yes. And then I m coming off the phone and then I called 'cause I didn't know. I mean, I know anymore Florida Averell decides to call the police. So I just called Aaron. I thought she wasn't. So anyhow, I put sponsor for like two or three. These three things. And then I finally got the right spot. She tries several different numbers before she reaches an officer and is a lucky break. Averell explains the situation another missing person to any other cop, but not to the officer on the other end of the line. This officer is a regular customer at the quick stop. He knows Lisa, it was just amazing because I got the and I spoke to also and he says, I'm describing, I kinda hot name, but I think she was. And then he starts, oh, I know still, you can't sit here. It's like going to that soul. I know. I know exactly what you're talking about. The quick stop is popular with other police officers too. So when they hear about Lisa's disappearance, they start an investigation. Lisa spent is officially missing person. Officer Mark to Angelo, has been on the force for three years. He's one of the quick stop regulars the store was in his assigned patrol area. So he stopped by often enough that he knows all the employee's there. He stopped in as usual on the Saturday after Lisa had gone missing. The cashier that night told him that Lisa hadn't been seen in days and the everybody in the store was worried about her. More officers got involved and over the next few days, five of them were asking around and checking on the places where Lisa could have been. Mark Saint fort was another of them. He's thirty six and had been with Miramar police for seven years. On a Thursday night. Several days after Lisa was last seen. He took an audio recorder to the strip mall where Lisa worked. The quick stop and Bella beauty supplier owned by the same family. And the manager is a man named Muhammad. Awad. He's Lisa's boss officer Saint fort interviewed Mohamed just after midnight. Lisa mowing the last time you saw her. Actually, she is. Oh, really? Special supply. Plus she's here all the time. She she know what we need are like for our. Okay. How many times? I mean times we help you out. It depends in in my tuition here like the lousy work here come on. Okay, four hours. Yeah, for okay, Mohammed tells officer Saint forth that it's unlikely to not show up at work without calling him. I. Definitely definitely fishes that no one has heard from a senior shit. Have any other family down in if you know of. Here in in Florida. Here's flory no. I'm ready for anyhow. But before the interview was over Mohammed Gibbs officers, Saint Ford, some odd information and a possible trail to follow. A friend who's often in the quick stop toll Mohammed that he got a text from releases phone the day after she failed to show up for work. His name is Richard more. He was a regular at the store and met Lisa, at least a year earlier there. The sixty three year old became friends with her almost a fatherly figure. This is officer Saint for recording his interview with Richard about Lisa's disappearance and her taxed. I seen her Wednesday. I stayed glass with the girls and help. Home store friend of mine. So when a girl I stay with them and I stayed with her like seven thirty five on Wednesday, at least I'm gonna go with the other guy Kamenz longest rest. I get big old homes. I get big old homes. I'll see you tomorrow. Muhammad or somebody Lisa call. I said, no. So does your four Celeste Drake, oh, she was a good move on everything, you know. So I called. Lisa, I'm worried about you give me a call. That was about four client. We not real Surena time. Nothing about five o'clock replies theory. I got to the mix. Race it are. They now know it you normal everyday. I want clear message in the next morning star. There something I've been trying to think what word would in says soon settled, and I'll give you a call in the blank may nothing. I've tried legal mass electric couple messaged after that for awhile of at least on worrying about you, please give me a call, you know, I love you. A little far. The kid. Tour nothing. So I hope investors after call me and then after while. If we suspense had disappeared, how and why was she sending text messages to Richard more. And is there anybody else getting them. Felonious Florida is brought to you by simply safe home security. Simply safe is a fantastic security system providing great protection for your home, but before simply safe home security companies were getting away with the law. They were overcharging for outdated complicated systems and trapping people in pricey contracts that changed ten years ago when an electrical engineer named Chad Lawrence had a few friends who were burglarized they wanted to Curie, but there weren't any good options. So Chad started SimpliSafe. He got rid of the hidden fees and contracts. He made simply safe intuitive and easy to use. 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But a rematch is in the middle of the island far from the tourist and business centers. Some families still live in basic wooden huts. Most of the homes, they are small buildings, two or three stories. They're painted with bright Caribbean colors. Usually with clay tiles for roofs lease. It was raised their a middle child with five brothers and sisters. They all lived in a house with their mom and dad. Some of the kids had to share the same bed growing up, Lisa enjoyed going to the beach and she loved doing with her mom and her family just like other families on the island hers, very tight knit. As soon as she finished high school, she went right to work to earn money by the nineteen nineties. Lisa was living in a housing development of few minutes outside of Reema. She's five foot, six Brown eyes, long black hair. She had her daughter cer- lean when she was young. Just seventeen, sir. Leans father was Averell app, Salam's Br. Other Lisa met Admiral for the first time around nineteen ninety four. I'm Lisa Philadelphia. Certainly, it's my niece. She's my father's daughter. Yes, my brother and, and Lisa, what you got for a long time. I'm looking forward to meeting. Because my niece, she was still gorgeous pretty baby, and I knew my relationship with her and. I, you know, my metal, she, she was very nice road. I thought I was very nice. Polices relationship with our brother eventually ended a relationship with another man led to Lisa's son, five years after lean. It was some time. Many years later when Lisa met the man who would eventually lead her to Florida. Lisa met Paul Edwards and Trinidad, though. It's not clear exactly when Paul had three kids from prior relationships with two other women. He was a corrections officer who worked in Trinidad's prison system. Some described him as friendly and courteous. He was eight years older than Lisa. Lisa, and Paul grew closer and eventually moved into an apartment together along with leases, daughter and son. They lived happily at first, but the relationship started getting more tense over the years. Paul and Lisa had started to fight. Often, the fights would sometimes get physical damage. One of abused the, I'm like with all used woman, you know, he would come back and you to jive and he would save never do this again kiss, and then she would go right back with him. And so that happened quite a one. The couple would break up then get back together. It happened several times, but finally their rocky relationship reached an end. They split up and their lives went down different paths. Lisa landed a well paying job and was supporting her kids. Paul reunited with the mother of two of his children and the two packed up and moved from Trinidad to Florida. In two thousand three. The couple's reunion, however, would be short-lived despite moving to the US together Paul and the other woman argued and split up just six months later. Soon. Paul turned his attention back to Lisa. He wanted to try again. This time would be different. He started calling Lisa from Florida and urged her to come, join him. There are so many opportunities tell her. She'd be happy here. One day, Lisa finally agreed. She packed her bags, left her kids in the care of her mother and other family and headed to the sunshine state. She seem off to Florida for like many. One year and then the next year she funny moved to Florida, but she, I think, wait a decision to shoot change for that or should she come, you know, to to some make a better nice children. She came up here. She was promised. You know, as far as I know, many things, you know, you would move to America. You can world your children to come live with you and I, it seems that's what she was promised. And she came and she made a decision to leave. She suddenly having good job in Trinidad, and she wound, you know, decent salary on there. But you know, she lives in courage to come up here just so she don't have a better life. Fuck it. I think I was that was part of the promise to package up. You know, to that is issue come to Marika. The catch is eventually able to join. They were getting married and then everything we taking care of being full. Once in Florida, Lisa moved into Paul's apartment in Miramar. It was in a multifamily building on Venetian street apartment be was a tiny unit. You walk into the front door and straight into the living room. The small kitchen is just footsteps away. There's a closet along a hallway which leads to the only bedroom and bathroom. You can walk around the entire place in seconds. It didn't matter lease and Paul didn't get many visitors. The apartment is right behind the strip mall where Lisa would soon land work at the quick stop and beauty supply store. It took her less than a minute to walk to the shops. It was important to. Earn, huh? Own money. And she, you know, she didn't mind working extra hours and things like that. Lisa and Paul lived out their daily lives in that little apartment. It's where they were living the daily savannah. Police officers knocked on the door of apartment be shortly after Lisa went missing, Paul was home and let them in Danny Smith has been on the Miramar police force since nineteen ninety seven. He began doing road patrol when he joined the department, but moved up to working homicide investigations within a few years. At the time that Paul Edwards was letting officers into his apartment. Detective Smith hadn't yet been assigned to the investigation. It's just a missing persons case hold actually went to our missing persons unit. Initially, there was the the welfare check that was called in and two of our missing persons detectives went to horizons. Obviously, it's first base, you're gonna check, knock on the door and make contact with polymers. It didn't take long for officers to see problems with Paul story. Things weren't adding up. They returned two days later with more questions. He keeps telling police that Lisa broke up with him and moved out, spoke with Paul. They got a weird dive from day. Guy with us. When I say I mean side unit and said, hey, this is what we have. What he has said. And as soon as we heard the story and I guess some of his odd behavior. Answers to questions that he gave the Nissim persons detectives. We immediately took over. Both times Paul at the officers inspect the apartment. They checked to see if Lisa left any belongings behind or maybe a forwarding address, any clue that could reveal where she went. I think a lot of it was intuition. There was a couple of his, his enters too, where she is was. I don't know we, she broke up with me and she, she just picked up and left really. Do you know where she went. You know, how did she get her stuff out of here? She doesn't have a car. His answers were ignored. She just got up and left. Lisa never needed a car in Florida work was right around the corner. He was slightly nervous which is by any by itself as it is what it is. People are nervous talking with the police, the pause behavior, and his statements were making police suspicious. Maybe this was more than a simple disappearance. So homicide detective Smith took over the investigation. It's about a week after Lisa vanished and detective Smith and other investigators decide they need more answers from Paul Edwards. They find him at his mother's home, just a mile and a half from his apartment. He agrees to go back to the police station for questioning. It's their police. Notice Paul has some injuries that they want him to explain. They take photographs of a cut on his left forearm. And another on the inside of his right pinky finger. We actually call him in. We bring him in and immediately red flags come up. He has cuts on his hands that look like. They are maybe a couple a couple of days old. They're not completely scabbed over. However, you could tell their recent. Pause an explanation for the cuts, but it only raises more questions. He tells police that he and Lisa have argued and fought in the past. About a week before she disappeared, at least a threatened him with a knife. He says he was protecting himself and was cut when he tried to grab the knife away from Lisa. And he says they fought again the night lease ahead last been seen. He. Tells us a story that they got an argument and they, she decides to leave. According to Paul, Lisa told him that she was breaking up with him and leaving that night. He said, he decided to give her some time to gather her belongings. He left the apartment and drove around his neighborhood for an hour and a rental car. But by the time he returned home lease, it was gone. So were her things is no idea how she moved it? She she has no vehicle and we thought that was kind of odd because if someone's gonna leave for the rest of their lives, they're probably going to call somebody and ask for some help help moving. And at the same time, it's probably gonna take a little bit more than our Paul tells detective Smith. He hasn't seen or heard from Lisa sense. Police are dubious of Paul story, and they're starting to piece together a dark picture of his relationship with Lisa. Paul admitted to them, they had fought and their fights had been physical. And as they talk to other people in Lisa's life, the picture becomes more clear as as we started working our best Gatien leases, close friends were coming forward and saying that he he's been abusive physically verbally, and they know this information, however, was it. It was never told to the police. Her friends had many stories about violence. Lisa's friend from the quick stop. Richard more was one of them. Richard was friends with the store's owner and was there a lot. He liked helping out the workers. They even gave him a nickname daddy. He's not sure were daddy came from, but it stuck. He told officers Saint forth. Paul was abusive and that Lisa was trying to find a way out of the relationship. Guy, shoo. On here. I guess couple months time. I'm not good at time, but he was slapping around and then you get telling me she got to get out of this mess and stuff. And she was asking my opinion. I told her love once they start that they never stop. I'm Richard wasn't the only person to describe Lisa situation in the weeks leading up to her disappearance. Another person recounted a past incident that was more chilling. There was one friend in particular that Lisa called and met with him. One time he lives in the area. She had said that she was sleeping and woke up to Paul standing over her and you had telephone core, grab dry throat. And he wasn't really putting a whole lot of pressure but enough to where woke up and he lied to know why Paul was upset, but she did know that she woke up to a quarter on her neck and he made it clear to her that she needs to do what he says or else he's going to use this court on. Her my October of two thousand nine. Lisa had had enough of the abuse. She planned to end it with Paul. She was going to leave. She told friends, but she just needed the right time. She wanted to leave when Paul wasn't around. Backpack on take off for fancy. Got. But it was difficult to find the right time. Paul kept calling in sick from work, so he was home a lot and she didn't want to try to leave while he was there. And when Paul wasn't working, he was coming into the quick stop more often likely to check on Lisa. Richard Moore recalled seeing him. Early-morning drinking never noticed. Drink forty started drinkin- what town Mike. Let me like in the war on our like, you know, saying nine ten you like holiday early, but you know, drinking. Was Lisa afraid of Paul. That key question comes up while these boss Mohamed is describing Paul and Lisa to police. Told you that she was in fear of ham or skis. She told you that. But there was something else going on in Lisa's life that police were about to discover. There was another man. Hi, this is mccade Austin, audiobooks. Motivate us. Inspire us, even bring us closer together and there's no better place to listen than audible. Audible has the largest selection of audiobooks on the planet. 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Chakib said he and Lisa had been dating for about three weeks before she disappeared. Few people knew about the relationship. Richard Moore new though he ran into chicane one day and confronted him. At this guy, I met him, but I don't know his name and I told him, I said, you know, you better take care of good girl. You her heart youth last hour, the new, the new academic tire seen or meet around, you know? 'cause she's a very visible person. Not only was Lisa carrying on a secret relationship with keen behind Paul's back, the police learned something else. Richard said he saw Shaquille in the quick stop the night that Lisa disappeared. Halt will police that Lisa said she was going to leave him that night. Was she planning to run away with him? Officer Saint fort asked, Richard more if that was a possibility. On a new more was even in that. I don't know what time he was in there almost like. Maybe around seven native learner, but he was in discuss any plans on. Talk get nervous, you know. Plans. She was on with. Or less couple of weeks, but she on Steiner's night only on out? No, not at night. When investigators found Shuki he admitted that he and Lisa were involved very involved. He said the two were planning to start a new life together. The even talked about getting married police needed to know more about their secret relationship and the details about the nightly sa- vanished. Where was he that night. Shuki tells them he talked to lease on the phone at ten forty. He was at a Jamaican restaurant few miles from home with a friend name. Omar Omar drove them around town after leaving the restaurant and eventually took Shaquille home. He got there around eleven and was there for the rest of the night. He told police that he hadn't run away with Lisa. Although Shuki Lopez had claimed that he didn't help Lisa to leave. Paul Edwards that night. He did tell police that she had wanted to leave. Shuki said that Lisa told him Paul was abusing her and that Wednesday night she would once and for all leave him Shuki said he was afraid for her safety. If she returned the apartment and had to confront, Paul, don't go back at all. He warned leave your belongings and just go. But Lisa insisted that you needed her things, especially her passport. So she went home. When Lisa went missing Shaquille tried reaching her on her cell phone for days. Richard more recall Shuki Lisa's boss, Mohammed Awad showing up at his home. Both of them were worried about Lisa. Get married him tonight. That night after he was hope to call him. He was worried sick. Do he came here when mom to the house as none? I attach much that time. This is all I know about show. So I tried calling her idea. Right down Mahama's near my lame about a call place. I said, well, you know, I don't think they're gonna do anything. On the day is out at least off doing or verse day Herbie adult. That's the end of my story. I said something wrong. Good moon, Wednesday night. You know. Richard had begun to think back on the text message. He got from Lisa's phone the day after she disappeared. Something seemed off about it for one thing, it was the first time she had ever texted him. She preferred talking on the phone, sending texts, Mohammed Awad agreed. Maybe it wasn't even Lisa who was sending the tax. It turned out Richard wasn't the only one who had started getting mysterious text from Lisa's phone Dexter. Vincent was another. He's Lisa's brother. Dexter moved to the US years before Lisa did back in the nineteen nineties. He's the second oldest of six siblings. Lisa is the third right after him. He was living in Philadelphia in two thousand nine. Dexter. Lisa spoke over the phone a lot. Sometimes every day. Dexter had been leaving voicemails for his sisters and she vanished on October. Seventh. She never called back. Instead, he started getting a string of texts from Lisa's phone. Some were so long. They were broken up into several texts and they weren't making much sense. The first came to Dexter phone at five, fifty four PM on October ninth two days after Lisa disappeared. I am trying to text you. I am not getting good reception where I am. I moved two nights ago. I am trying to settle in text me back. I am. All right. The words were riddled with spelling errors. Then at six, ten pm. Another text came in. This one seemed to reference Paul. It said she quote truly realized that he really has good intentions, but so much has happened. He left the apartment, which me the best. An hour and twenty minutes later. Another tax about Paul. Yes, sir. I am. All right. At least for now I am sad because I will miss Paul with all that happened. He still was good to me in the end. More text. Tell Dexter not to worry about her and ask for his help in reassuring her family. Text eight, thirty three that night says, call mummy. Orser lean for me, sir. Lean is trying to get onto me when I answer call cut off. Tell them I will call them or text them. The next night opt over tenth more techs come in. Seven fifty, three pm what's up. I am just trying to readjust myself. Texts lane told her to tell mommy, I moved. I will text when I come out of d shower. Nine PM I am in Jacksonville. I don't really know place. I will be in Miami next week. I took a rest from d. job. Here's reporter one or tak- explaining how Lisa's brother handled the texts. He's seeing these text messages that are coming supposedly from Lisa and it seems pretty early on that he gets onto the idea that it's not. Lisa just seems so strange for them to be from Lisa and a desire to try to outsmart this person. Because if if it's not Lisa than who is it and he, the Bessie comes up with thinks back to how maybe he should ask something that no one else would know except for Lisa and he thinks back to their childhood when they were going up and turn it add, he remembers how Lisa had childhood friends. And one of the childhood friends who live nearby was girl named Allison and Allison had several siblings. So the question that he decides to present to this person on the other end he asked what is the name of Allison's brother? And he makes it even more specific. He says. Not just any sibling. He wants to know the name of alison's younger brother and to him, it seems like this works because the person on the other end of the line who who'd been sending all these text messages. All this time suddenly doesn't right back. So he sees as validation that is not Lisa that up Dexter called Paul and confronted him over the phone. What happened to Lisa? He demanded Paul respondent, it wasn't supposed to be like this, and he started to cry Dexter had enough and hung up the phone to Dexter. The tax didn't sound like Lisa and police weren't buying it either. One of the texts that Dexter had gone from his sisters phone was at nine AM on October tenth. She said she was in Jacksonville, but records show that her cell phone was being read by a tower and sunny isles near Miami. That's three hundred miles away from Jacksonville. There were also mysterious phone calls. The last known call that Lisa was on happened October. Seventh. But there were three outbound calls made from Lisa's phone on October eighth and ninth after she had gone missing. All of them were to Shuki Lopez. The man, Lisa had a secret relationship with the calls. Each lasted zero seconds. They were immediate hangups police dug deeper into phone records and not just Lisa's. One of the last text messages that Dexter Vincent God from his sister was relaid from tower and sunny isles. The phone records showed that Paul Edwards phone was also hitting off towers in the same area. In fact, Paul's phone never seem to be far from Lisa's. There was evidence that Paul Edwards wasn't telling police everything he knew, and then came evidence that something violent had taken place. Officers had already looked around Leeson Paul's apartment several times, but they wanted a closer look. They returned again, armed with a search warrant and began a forensic examination of apartment CSI style. This time they discovered small traces of blood. Detective, Danny Smith describes how they made the discovery. We source that residents. We find over the course of the execution of that warm. We find some blood evidence, not a great deal of blood evidence, but we do find some blood evidence in the bathroom. When you walk into pollen leases, cramped bathroom. The toilet is on the right just inches from the wooden door. There's a toilet seat with a seafoam green fabric seek cover and a matching bathrobe on the white tile floor to the back of the toilet as a checkered. Flower pot with light pink carnations bottle, orange hand, soap. The bathtub is light blue and there's a green bottle of cucumber melon. Baby wash in one corner and wedged between the tub and toilet as the bathroom sink on a deteriorated white van into cabinet. The formica from the vanity is peeling off showing the wood underneath there on that vanity spots of blood grabbed the attention of detectives and to technical under the vanity. There was some directionality with that blood meaning a normal person would expect that you're gonna find some blood in someone's home because people cut themselves. It's it's normal. But this particular piece of blood evidence had directionality going from down to up underneath the vanity that's normally not a place that you would bleed. If you cut yourself, more traces of blood are found on the bathrooms door frame and on the back splash tiles in the bathtub, investigators collect the blood samples for testing. They need to know are these drops of blood evidence of a crime. They had the same question about blood found in a vehicle polyp and driving around the time of Lisa's disappearance. Brenna Harris's. Paul Edwards mother because the two lived a half mile apart. Paul was at her place a lot. Brennan knew that pollen, Lisa, we're having problems. She actually believed they would break up soon. She helped her son when she could, especially with transportation. Paul didn't have a car of his own. So his mom would sometimes rent vehicles for him. She said, Paul's on do not rent list. He has an issue with returning vehicles on time. So she went and rented a car for Paul to do whatever it is that he wanted to do on the week that Lisa disappeared. She had rented to SUV's for her son. The first was a black dodge journey, but Paul return it right away because the CD player didn't work. He said, so Brennan rented him a white Toyota Highlander, which Paul drove between October seventh and October thirteenth, it's the car. He was driving the nightly disappeared. He had been driving around. He said, to give Lisa time to pack her things. It was the Highlander that police track down and inspected. They discovered a small amount of blood in jam of the back left door. So with that now were were looking at blood evidence. Unfortunate. We don't have an ID on who that is and. We've got to kind of figure out where to go from there. We have DNA profile, but we don't know what to do with it still. They found blood in the couple's apartment and now in a rental SUV. Investigators may not know exactly what to do with the evidence, but they know this, it's going to be crucial when they finally finally saw. As the investigation into the disappearance of Lisa Spence, stretched into weeks. Her family and Trinidad was losing hope. When she left for south Florida seeking better work opportunities. She left her kids in the care of her mother and their family. Despite her distance from Trinidad, Lisa remained devoted to her family. She worked hard to earn money to support them. She wanted to do everything she could. She loves her family and so she missed them. Some of the money she made was spent flying her daughter and son to Florida to spend summers with her, and she spent a lot of it to stay in touch. She would buy long distance calling cards. Her calls to Trinidad with sometimes cost ten dollars a day. Everything. You know, and she. Children and mom, especially. Detective. Danny Smith reached out to Lisa's daughter, sir, lean early in his investigation. He reached her on her eighteenth birthday. She wasn't celebrating. She was worried about her mom, sixteen hundred miles away in Florida. From the day she went missing until the time. The police were contacted. Her daughter turned eighteen years old. Lisa would never miss speaking with her daughter on her eighteenth birthday. She never phoned so that right there told us that there. There may be an issue. Lisa did more than stay in touch. She sent money every month and she would save items that could be valuable to her family. Anything she could ship. She was using a large fifty five gallon barrel and packed it with the thing she stayed, she'd keep adding more until it was full. Then she chip it off. The barrel was made of Brown, heavy cardboard, waterproof with metal caps on each end. She kept tucked away in her living room. While police in Miramar are searching for Lisa, there's a barrel just like the one she'd been using four miles away in an empty field in the city of Miami gardens. It's near a canal laying day after day in the scorching Florida's sunshine. Stuffed inside the barrel is the headless body of suspense. On the next episode of loneliest Florida. The disappearance of Lisa Spence, where are the text from Lisa's cellphone coming from police, don't think it's her and start to zero in on the man, they believe is behind her disappearance. But they don't have enough evidence and resort to a highly unusual tactic. It's a gamble, but it leads them to the grisly discovery near Miami, an break that solves the mystery. Thanks for listening to this episode of loneliest, Florida. If you're enjoying the podcast, please rate us on apple podcasts until your friends about our show. It's a bailable online at felonious, Florida dot com. Apple podcasts, one-day dot com or wherever you listen to podcasts, you can go online to see photographs video and read more about the cases where featuring at bologna, Florida dot com. And be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. Polonius Florida is produced by the south Florida. Sun-Sentinel. 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The Encino Murders, Part 3 | 3

"This would be Kevin Pratt's best alibi for the night. Four people were shot three fatally on Encino street in Miramar, Florida in August two thousand nine. But it was seven months earlier and more than three hundred miles away. On a Thursday afternoon in late January two thousand nine, Kevin's bloodied body, lay inside a bath and kitchen store. Jacksonville, Florida won a sheriff's deputy came upon him. His shirt off exposing wound caused by a bullet that had ripped through his abdomen. Moments earlier, he was going into a nearby apartment complex to meet a girl. But when he walked in an apartment guy pulled a gun on him apparently to rob him, there was a struggle and Kevin was shot. He made it a few hundred feet south of the apartments and into the store where witnesses said he wasn't telling the much about what happened and the gunman was never found. Kevin's gunshot wound was serious and he needed emergency surgery. He survived, but he would later tell detective that the injury led to months of recovery and continue to affect him more than a year later. So when detectives told Kevin, he was their prime suspect in the triple murder that happened seven months after the shooting. Kevin said it couldn't be him. He was still recovering from the gunshot and his body was too weak to pull off such an attack. He explained. How could he possibly have killed faith business or Davey and Bishop and the, he'd Hamilton. These. I got shot and strength. I don't know kill somebody killed three people that. Do that. But the detective weren't buying it. They were convinced Kevin Pratt, was the killer. Hi, this is mccade Austin, and I want to tell you about a better option for women who call her their hair for decades. They've had two choices. It was either the time and expense of a salon or outdated at home hair coloring products. 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If you think, you know everything about at home hair-color think again, find your perfect shade at Madison Reed dot com. Don't forget the promo code Florida. From the south Florida sunset, Nolan association with one dri, this is Loni is Florida. The podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host mccade Austin along with investigative reporters, Stephen Hobbs, this is part three. The conclusion of the Sinoe murders. Less than three weeks after detectives. I learned Kevin Pratt, was a possible suspect in the Sinoe street killings. They had his photo in front of the only survivor of the attack. Camille. Hamilton was back in Jamaica when Miramar detectives, Steve, Toyota and his partner. Hector, Bertrand flew from Florida to see her on the island nearly a year had passed since a mysterious gunman shot her in the face and killed her teenage daughter to others. The detectives hadn't had a suspect until now and they were wasting no time building a case. They brought six photos with them. One was a photo of Kevin from his driver's license taken seven months before the murderers. The other photos were fillers, five different black men all with various types of facial hair. This photo lineup was important and had to be done right. Camille would be shown the photos by Jamaican contractor for the US Marshall service. He didn't know which of the photos showed the suspect so that Camille identification wasn't tainted by any of his reactions and the procedure would be videotaped. So there was a record. It takes place in a bedroom. Detective, Bertrand is behind the camera. And the Marshall reads a script. He says, he'll show her each photo one at a time. Take your time. He tells her and he shuffles the photos. The first photo is of a man with a thin moustache goatee. She grabs the photo and studies it. She briefly looks up at detective Bertrand. Forty seconds go by. It sort of looks like him. She says. The Marshall holds the next photo close to Camille face. The man shown has a thicker mustache and a beard. Camille looks at the photo. Then back Bertrand. Bertrand tells her, we can't help you. Camille. This one looks like him. She says. The photos are shuffled again, and the third one is shown to Camille. It's of Kevin Pratt. In the photo he has a full beard that goes down his neck. He's balding on top and his hair is cut short on the sides, his front teeth on the top row or gold. Commu leans back and shakes her head. She looks back toward the camera. No, she says. She goes through the final three photos, no three times and the recording ends. The stakes were high for the lineup, and the detectives had tried to do it by the book. But reporter Steven Hobbs found that there were still concerns. A couple of shoes that come up in this video of this lineup. The first is detective Bertran. He was in the room when this lineup was taking place. Now, the goal of having that Marshall do the lineup is so that there might not be conscious or unconscious suggestion to Camille saying, this is who the suspect is or don't pick this person because it's not the suspect, and it's clear just from looking at the video that Camille is looking back detective Bertran seemingly maybe for help or with uncertainty about what's going on. And the detective even says, Camille, I can't help you. You have to do this. You know, from your own memory, she was there for at least the first two photos. It's not actually clear how long, but he testified later that he he did leave and he left the room during the lineup because he was concerned about Camille, constantly looking back at him for help. The other thing that we hear from just listening to this this video and watching the video is you can hear detective toilet in the background talking. He was talking with Camille, then husband and they were in kind of a living room area which is near where his bedroom was. The photo lineup was taken place. But one thing is you can hear the detective talking. So presumably maybe the other people in the room could have heard him talking as well. And he said on the video, there's no doubt in my mind that he did it. Sometime after the camera is shut off, perhaps five or ten minutes later, Camille shown another line of photos. This time is different. Instead of the Marshall showing Camille photos, it's detective, Toyota. And he knows who the suspect is. He shows her fourteen photos. Every one of them is a photo of Kevin Pratt. Detective, Toyota later testified that he didn't know why he brought the photos of Kevin, but he showed them to Camille because he wanted to make sure the investigation was on the right track. It was a decision he made on the spot. And detective. Bertrand never turned on the camera. Because he didn't. We don't know exactly what happened. Is Camille with show in the fourteen photos of Kevin. They were all driver's license photos that spanned a decade. This showed Kevin with varying facial hair, including some with a full beard. In others. He had a thin mustache or go t the also had different hair styles from bowl, too short according to detective Toyota's testimony. He asked Camille, something like this. He looked familiar. Camille picked one of the photos in it, Kevin had short stubble on his face and was wearing what looked like a skull cap on his head. So the photo that Camille picked was an old one of Kevin. It was actually from January of two thousand, which is more than nine years before the murders actually took place. The detective later testify wasn't sure if Camille new just because she kind of either indicated or pointed at this photo, but there was never any kind of conversation is to her recognizing that all the other photos were of the same person should just kind of seems like zeroed in on that one photo. So detective later said, he wasn't sure that she was even sure that these were all of Kevin detective. Toyota mentioned the off camera photo lineup in an affidavit. He wrote that Camille shown the array of driver's license. Photos of Kevin total later said that the reason to showed her the photos was just to make sure that the investigation was kind of going on the right track. He thought once she said. No to Kevin during that photo lineup, that there might not be another kind of I witness procedure again, why alive lineup or another photo lineup, too was concerned that a judge may see this and say that the live lineup could be tainted that they wouldn't actually be able to do. I've lineup because of the fact that he had shown her these fourteen photos later that night, the detectives had dinner with Camille and her husband. There's no record of what they discussed. But before the detectives returned to Florida, Camille told them she would like the chance to identify their suspect in person. A week after the trip to Jamaica. The detectives were ready to interview Kevin on August fifth, twenty ten nearly a year after the murders detective, Toyota, put out an alert to law enforcement. Kevin Pratt is wanted for questioning. He didn't have to wait long. Just before eight pm that day Kevin was spotted at a Sonoko gas station in Miami. A police officer wrote that he was asking people for money and harassing them. He'd been warned about loitering there before. So the officer arrested Kevin. Detective, Toyota was notified and two hours later. He and Bertran were sitting across from Kevin Pratt for the first time. Kevin didn't have to talk with detectives. He hadn't been charged. In fact, they hadn't even told him why they were questioning him, but he agreed to talk anyway and he did it without having a lawyer present. Detective, Toyota went over Kevin's rights. Then Bertran jumped in, hey, Kevin, he asked how long did it take you to grow your beard out like that? Kevin's facial hair wasn't important issue to sort out. Camille. Hamilton hadn't remembered her attacker having a beard. She said he had just a thin moustache, but when police had stopped Kevin twice just before and just after the murders officers described him as having a beard. On August fifteenth, about twenty four hours before the murders a Miami Dade County officer wrote the Kevin had a beard slash goatee. On August twenty. Third, six days after the killings an officer stopped Kevin. Again, this time farther north in West Palm Beach. He was riding a bicycle through alleys near a gym around noon. He said he was going to look at fish in a nearby canal. But an officer said he appeared to be looking for an opportunistic crime and stopped him for questioning. Kevin was wearing a t shirt cargo shorts and combat boots. He had gold teeth and he was wearing gloves. The officer also wrote in his report that Kevin had a full beard. Kevin's facial hair comes up again. And again, in this case, because one of Camille description of the perpetrator, having that thin moustache two of the fact that a waiter head of Toyota's said that it was unclear at the time whether or not ten had a beard when these murders occurred and three because as we can see about twenty four hours before the murders, she is said to have had a beard or go to buy an officer and then wasn't a week later six days later. An office in other officers says that he has a full beard while we one hundred percent sure what heavens facial hair was at the exact moment of this murders. He would have had to potentially shave his Goto or some of his beard and then how to grow into a full beard in the course of six days. Back at the interview detectives, Toyota and Bertrand continued question Kevin. They spent the next three hours learning a lot more about his life and finally revealed why they're there. He's a murder suspect. Felonious Florida is brought to you by simply safe home security. Simply safe is a fantastic security system providing great protection for your home, but before simply safe home security companies were getting away with the law. They were overcharging for outdated complicated systems and trapping people in pricey contracts that changed ten years ago when an electrical engineer named Chad Lawrence had a few friends who were burglarized they wanted to Curie, but there weren't any good options. So Chad started simply safe. He got rid of the hidden fees and contracts. He made simply safe intuitive and easy to use. 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He also had a brother, the lost him in a tragedy that made headlines in July nineteen eighty nine. His name was Tori. When Kevin was eleven, the brothers were swimming at a beach on Key, Biscayne near Miami. They were there celebrating cousin's birthday as they were being called to shore for the lighting of birthday candles water biker swept in and caused waves that overwhelmed the boys. Tori couldn't swim, Kevin grabbed him, but couldn't hold on. An article in the Miami Herald quoted Kevin. He swallowed a lot of water. He said. Kevin's little brother drowned at age, seven. Kevin dropped out of high school. In the tenth grade, he told the detectives, he worked in environmental cleanup and he was operating heavy machinery until the Jacksonville shooting in January two thousand nine. He had to give that work up after his injury. After he had been shot, he went to recover in West Palm Beach. It was at a drug program. He used to drink a little bit, and that helped him get in he said, but that's not why he was there. It provided shelter where he could recover from the bullet wound. Now without steady work, Kevin said he would sometimes offer to pump gas for people or wash their windshields for tips. MAURICE Inle. He said he'd been working at a dock in Miami. Detector Toyota would later note Kevin's financial struggles in an affidavit. His Bank account was overdrawn by few dollars round the time of the murders. Have you ever been to Miramar the detectives asked. Kevin said it had been awhile, but he used to have a girlfriend there and go to wash their clothes at a shopping plaza. But that was years earlier, maybe in the early two, thousands. Detective, Toyota points out that Kevin was stopped by an officer Miramar August two thousand nine. Yeah. I remember that. He said it was a little over a week before the murders on NCO street. Miramar officer had seen Kevin panhandling at an intersection in the city. The detectives wanted to know what Kevin was doing there. Just two miles from the murder scene. Kevin told them he was working for the homeless voice. A newspaper that's handed out on street corners across Florida, to raise awareness about homelessness heater in about forty to seventy dollars a day. Kevin said he was living in Miami at that time and didn't have a car on August eighth. He was dropped off in Miramar where he started handing out newspapers. The officer who didn't describe what Kevin looked like told him to leave Kevin said he did and hadn't been back to Miramar. Kevin wasn't able to give detectives strong alibi for the night of the murders. But by the time he was being questioned nearly a full year had passed. Detective. Toyota showed Kevin photos of the street home and the mercury sable that was at the scene, an pictures of the victims. It was nearly an hour into the interview, and they finally got to the point. It's been all over the news. They told Kevin. Three of the people in those photos were murdered. They asked Kevin if he knew anything about it. Kevin said he didn't. Toyota began to hint Kevin that they had found evidence that placed him at the crime scene. Their science out there that led us to you. He told Kevin. And there was, but it wasn't as strong as they were leading Kevin to believe. Less than a month earlier. The detectives had been told by both the DNA manager of the crime lab and prosecutors that DNA evidence that returned Kevin's name wasn't enough on its own to arrest Kevin. But if they had any concern about the DNA evidence, they weren't showing it in their interview that day. Detector Toyota is heard. I. Scientists told us that can't get in this on. Where you left your say, call evidence, but it's pretty compelling. DNA. Feel so much better. I mean. Just. You got to. Just make peace for them. Peace out Piedmont. She's a pastor founding church on she own troop. She's a passenger ch- offering a Trojan on Dan. I mean, these people do not a very nice people. I don't know people. People. I'm not saying you know them, and I'm not saying that. What they're tending on. Something happened at. Evidence tells us that you were there. Okay. I was saying you were there. Okay, that's. That's how that's how. That's why we're here. No, I can't. I can't say I'm nothing to sit up and tell you something about. Wasn't budging. He told the detectives about the shooting in Jacksonville that he said, left him too weak to have committed such a physical attack. Personally, I'm still slow from his gunshot didn't do everyday. Didn't I just hospital today. I have complications. This stuff is this is still volume. So you know ahead of surgeon key stuff to kidney and I'm gonna do with that. I'm doing this trying, you know, trying to get back together, you know, panel dude, I got pan, but you know, I didn't look call, wash, dude. I gotta do. I don't know about not about killing these people. I'm not finished him, which is. Did you know if you arrested forward in? I'd have to go out full it blue. Blue one restaurant person, but problem is you DNA is in the scene again. And again, during the interview, detectives tried to get Kevin to confess to the murders. They told them about the surviving victim and pushed him to confess for her done. I'll get into politics. You know, some if I did, but this is a whole different. This is a whole different ball game. This is not like a theft burglar. This is not. This is probably one of the hardest things ever to admit to Kevin. Let me ask you this. It down to it if I die. Kevin offered to provide more samples to be tested for DNA. But detective, Bertrand told him it's been tested and retested on with. I'm not in greeted with that. I was not what you said. I'm okay. And you know, for somebody to say, well, you know, willing to face the consequences, but in do it, nobody would be going to want to be punished for something in do. I'm trying to tell you that right now. Until iota told Kevin that DNA evidence is strong. We know that as this year's people do mistakes with his, his can make mistakes of identification. But when it comes to things like DNA fingerprints, those are those are all when we locate like building a good case, we have with down. Here's like I witness identification. Fingerprints DNA is the ultimate. Kevin's denials, never wavered, but after three hours he had had enough of the questioning. I don't have anything else to say he told the detectives and the interview is over. It was almost one in the morning. The detectives left the police station with little more than they had when they arrived. Later that day Kevin was set free. After their first interview with Kevin detectives were keeping their eyes on him nearly two months later after a court hearing in Miami Dade County, they followed him after he left the courthouse trying to find people. He knew it was a bizarre stakeout. So at this point, an investigation detectives or trying to talk with people, maybe new Kevin friends or people, he was staying with it, try to little bit with family, but weren't able to really much information. So they've one day decided to follow him outside of court, hearing his hearing actually got cancelled that day. And when he left the courthouse, detective, Toyota detective, Bertrand, we send other officer, they followed Tevin in their cars, different cars on March cars, just trying to see where he went to go talk to anyone. Was there any people that they could follow up with and try to find more information about Kevin? Did he ever say anything about the murders to other people that he wasn't telling the detect. Actives. Is really interesting is as they're following them in these unmarked cars, detective, Toyota waiter said that the reports were maybe he stopped and started stretching, and he would run or even walk. Aimlessly didn't seem like he really had a place that he was going destination that he was going in. This went on for hours and he didn't really go to any homes or talk with any people. So they weren't able to get much information about it. And the other thing was just he also appeared to have kind of radicals on. It went on for about seven hours. And Kevin walked and ran the streets of Miami without talking with anybody. Detectors had learned nothing. Well, almost nothing. Detector Toyota later wrote that Kevin appeared to be homeless. The detectives will try again months later to interview Kevin. It was March of twenty eleven and Kevin agree to meet with them. And again, didn't ask for an attorney, Kevin didn't budge. And without a confession, they'd have to keep looking at evidence from St.. More DNA tests were done, including on the duct tape from the crime scene. The process would take time without something detective suddenly had. Kevin was back in prison and was going to be there for a while. Hi, this is Sean pits from the flowness Florida team. You spend a third of your life in your sheets. Are you getting the best possible? I know I am because Islip and she's from Brooklyn in dot com. I bought my Brooklyn in luck sheet bundle over a year ago, and the sheets are still just a soft and luxury is the first night. The smooth wave of the sheets has held up beautifully with no sign of wear and tear Brooklyn dot com was founded in twenty fourteen by husband and wife team, and they become the fastest growing bedding brand in the world more than twenty thousand five star reviews. And they were named the best of online betting by good housekeeping, Brooklyn, in dot com. 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Kevin Pratt, was accused of punching a cop who had pulled him over for Radic driving. He was in a rental car and the officer said Kevin had a knife in the center console when he tried to take Kevin out of the car, they got an a scuffle Kevin was charged with battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting arrest with violence. That was February twenty ten, six months after the Sinoe street murders. It took almost a year for Kevin to be sentenced for the incident with Kevin behind bars. New DNA tests were performed on pieces of duct tape that had been taken from the murder scene. An earlier test that had led detectives to Kevin proud was far from conclusive. It had found a mixture of DNA from at least three people on a roll of duct tape that was next to the bodies. Kevin couldn't be ruled out as one of them. With more advanced DNA testing an option. Miramar hired an outside crime lab in June twenty eleven. The new lab was sent a swab from the role of duct tape. The lab repeated the first test that had been done by the county crime lab, but it also did a second test. This one focused on y chromosomes those only belonging to men. The results took months. Meanwhile, detectives use the time to grant Camille Hamilton, her request to face the suspect in person. They would arrange a live lineup in front of her and they planned for a stunning twist aimed at getting him to confess. It happened on September eighth twenty eleven more than two years after the murders. Kevin was taken from prison in north Florida to a nearby county jail that had a live lineup room. A deputy from the jail ran. The lineup commute was read a script and like the photo lineup in Jamaica, it would be recorded on video. But reporter. Stephen Hobbs says, there were concerned with this lineup too. One. The things that's important in wine, ABS light. This is who's running it and do they know the suspect they're not. So the sheriff's deputy who was running this lineup was working at this. This jail is kind of a small county jail. And so he was aware of the other people who were with Kevin standing there during the wine, there was only about one hundred and eighty people at this county jail to choose from. So there's not a lot of people that shoes from that. Maybe we'll look really similar to Kevin just by comparison browertown either were about forty, four hundred people in jail at that time, which would have been a much larger population of people to choose from that would really similar to Kevin and how that plays out in this lineup is we see that there's a really big age difference in the people that are chosen to stand with Kevin. The six men are lined up facing the wall with their backs to Camille one by one they are told to turn to face her. Then turn left then right than back to the wall. Kevin, prod, number four. On the video, Camille is not visible as Kevin turns to face her. But the deputy running the lineup would later say that her knees buckled when she saw him the last two men face her. Then communities asked if she recognized any of them, she asks to see numbers four and five again. So they repeat the whole lineup, then they do it again. And this time they're asked to smile. Camille wants to see their teeth. She said, the man who attacked her had gold teeth on his bottom row. Kevin shows gold teeth, but he has them on the top and bottom. Six individuals orphan. Solve Mizra car, Camille pauses for a moment. Then stands up and softly says, number four, Kevin Pratt, the lineup lasted nearly twenty five minutes and was over. But the real drama of the day wasn't. The detectives had planned it for months. The first two interviews with Kevin didn't lead to a confession. So they tried an unusual tactic. The detectives had Kevin in an interview room after the lineup, and we're asking him the same questions they had asked over and over before more than forty, five minutes into the interview. The door opens and Camille Hamilton walks in. Own intrusive. This is Camille. She lived just. In their son. Remember who worse. Back was turned to the road. When you when you have. Money. Never. Don't get you. Detective. Bertrand urges Kevin to say something apologize. Camille pleads with him. For fifteen minutes. She goes on, but Kevin never says a word, Camille sorrow turns to anger. No. Camille is escorted from the room. Really. Hurt retail. No real. All. You have an opportunity. This is rare gift to make better would happen to rare gift giving you this gift take. Kevin doesn't take the offer, and the interview was over. He didn't have a confession from Kevin, but they did have Camille identification of him from the lineup, two weeks later, they would have something even bigger. Results from the new round of DNA testing by the outside lab came in on September twenty second twenty. Eleven. It was more than a year after the county crime labs, initial reports this Kevin's name, but wasn't conclusive. This time, the results were stronger. The report said the chance that the DNA belong to an unrelated person was one in twelve billion. The results were a dramatic improvement. Kevin Pratt, could finally be charged with murder. Camille, Hamilton, detective, Steve Toyota, stood in front of news, cameras. The case, it finally been salt. Kevin Pratt, was the ruthless killer. Toyota said there would finally be Justice for faith, David and Akita. The detective explain the DNA evidence at the press conference match so much that the chance of anybody being chosen at random one in twelve billion which is better than the world's population. Camille spoke about her confrontation with Kevin. When I saw him. I'd never forget what he looks like. Never. I remembering very well the case against Kevin, look strong. I'm happy that Justice is going to be done. The next week, the detectives from Miramar head to the prison in north Florida were Kevin's been behind bars. He's wearing a blue prison uniform as -tective Toyota read, Tim, the arrest warrant that formerly charges Kevin with the Encino murders. They give him one last chance to come clean. Side. Utah. One of the items that was us. The commission that's no mistake DNA. One hundred percent one twelve. Identifies you as a person. It's not a mistake, the victim coming in and identifying. Say you moving in that area right before, but lease. Say, you see how they are filing. You see skins. Stacked against you. Kevin continues to say, he's innocent then runs out of patience. Three council on. All star, the corporate CDs. You don't want disputed. Do that core. Kevin is through talking. He stands up and even though his hands are cuffed behind him, he opens up the interview room door and steps into the hallway. You're a coward Bertran says, and the door closes, so they don't have a confession. At least they're still the DNA. But the detectives were in for another disappointment. The state of Florida versus Kevin Pratt, began its years long March through the court system. The strongest piece of evidence against him was the new DNA test. But the understanding of DNA testing was changing and my twenty thirteen nearly two years had passed since the more conclusive test results. That's when the prosecutor Alberto rebus call the DNA analyst at the private lab to go over the results. Again. She took a look and what Tiffany ROY saw was troubling. The evidence had a mixture of DNA from multiple people, and new guidelines had been issued that called for a more conservative approach for this kind of DNA profile. Roy's first has had looked only at the DNA that was present. The new guidelines set analysts should also consider what parts of the DNA might be missing. So ROY said she felt obligated to bring up concerns about the results. There were low levels of DNA found on the duct tape, and she was less confident with the results than she was in her first report. So she issued a new one in June twenty thirteen in it. She said the DNA results were inconclusive. Kevin did have similar DNA to the DNA found on the role of duct tape, but she needed more advanced tools to analyze it. This isn't something I need to be ashamed about because this came about from advancements in technology. This is something that affected the entire field that we now understood that this data was so unreliable that we shouldn't be making interpretations because we can't be certain about what it's telling us. And so I felt like I could not go into court and say with with any level of certainty, you know that this person was included or anyone was included in that data given given the quality of that profile because now I know that. That wasn't applied properly. We don't know what the chances of a random person being included, and we don't know how common rare that would be inserted go into court and say that it was one in a million or one in twelve billion with the combined statistic is misleading in people. You know a now I knew that that was misleading in so I couldn't go in and present that into conscience as the years went on the questions about the DNA evidence against Kevin were never fully resolved. Meanwhile, Kevin's defense, attorneys pointed out other potential weaknesses in the case against him, like Kevin's fingerprints weren't found at the scene and they obtain handwritten notes from detective, Toyota, that reference conversations he'd had with Camille conversations that were not recorded. Those notes described times where Camille was shown photos early in the investigation before Kevin was a suspect she singled out to men. She said, resembled her attacker, but the detective didn't put that in his reports. Toyota later testified that he didn't consider those to be identification 's. But despite the defense's efforts to chip away at the case and the change DNA results, detective, Toyota state firm on Kevin's guilt. He believed the DNA found on the duct tape matched Kevin's. By twenty seventeen. The charges against Kevin proud were nearly five and a half years old, and the judge was expressing concerns. Bringing the case to jury was a problem for both sides. The prosecution had issues with its two main pieces of evidence DNA and the eyewitness testimony from Camille. But even though Kevin insisted he didn't kill anybody. He didn't have a great alibi for the night of the murders. It was a horrific crime, and he was facing the death penalty. The judge urged both sides to come up with a resolution. So that's what they did. On February twenty first twenty seventeen. They went into court with the deal. The state agreed to the minimum sentence for the crimes, ten years because gun was involved. And they agreed to credit him for the more than five years. He had spent in jails, his arrest. His sentence will be followed by fifteen years of probation. The punishment is a disappointment for Camille Hamilton and the families of the victims who believe Kevin proud was the killer and for detectives who spent years trying to solve the case. But the risk that he might go free and unpunished was too great. And for Kevin, the deal would mean he'd have to spend nearly five more years in prison when the judge asked him how he pleaded to the murder charges. Kevin pause for a moment before saying. Guilty. Camille step to the podium yelled at him for an apology and told the Judge Kevin deserve to be put to death. As she's escorted away, Camille said to Kevin, God is going to punish you. You may not be punished by the law, but you're going to be punished Kevin, Pratt. It's been a year and a half since the emotional Dan court. Sitting in her living room in Florida. Camille. Hamilton says it's hard for her to smile these days. Even when it happens, her thoughts return to our daughter, Nikita Hamilton. She still keeps a room for Nikki set up like she had it in her room in Jamaica. Sometimes she comes into the room and lies down and she talks to her daughter. In fact, she talks to her a lot when she's driving walking cooking, it helps her feel like Nikki still there with her. She writes to her in a journal to telling what's happened in the days that have passed since her death. Camille reminded of the horrifying night every time she looks in the mirror. The damage caused by the bullet to her face required surgery after surgery. She wants another to reduce pain and help resolve some of the damage done to her. I. In August, she went back to Jamaica to visit family and spend time with friends. Her face brightens when she reminisces about the trip. Until the grief returns as it often does. She fights it by keeping herself busy, working a lot talking to friends and cooking. Some day she wants to go back to school to become the bottom est or even a nurse. And strong tough. And that's what Niki would want to be a fight on a strong person. What do you do need for her. She was so sweet tension with strongly occur. She was so smart promise, sir. Scurr promise, sir. I'm gonna. Do the things that you. I'm gonna fulfill our dreams. Tried to do. Camille knows her statements were inconsistent early in the investigation, but she was on Aniston Zhen painkillers. She says her jaw was shot and she was grieving. And she says today, she is certain that Kevin Pratt is the man who shot her and murdered her daughter and friends. Even during the photo lineup in Jamaica, her mind still wasn't right. She says she was processing the loss of her daughter and the terrifying attack that night unin sina street. But today she doesn't doubt her memory. Kevin is one who take China life. My friend, a nurse leaf to die. Easel did that. And never forget talking to, you know, like talking to him. Is him he did it. When he tough into manna was enough, couldn't talk. My Moto was wired. I couldn't pronounce couldn't talk. I was out tiffy. In my position atlas may only child. Was there to income are Takemoto. That. I Smith think ever take no killed him. I should have to do. Why. The era when he said, man is not Mehan. I shut him up. I said, shut up. Don't tell it's not you. Why is not too many affect to the bar. So after. Three bargains plead guilty. He saw take it. Any sane matinees. I wanna walk rightful idea, had the chance to. Killing myself. Today, Kevin prot is behind bars at the Calhoun Correctional Institution about fifty miles west of Tallahassee, Florida. It's where he serving his ten year sentence for the Encino street, triple murder. Although he's never granted an interview in all of his statements to detectives, he steadfastly maintained his innocence. Pleading guilty. Let him the possibility of execution. I started looking at this case about a year and a half ago, and it was right after that point. Hairy. What struck me was that it didn't seem like any kind of resolution for this case. And as I kept looking into it and reading through court documents, I saw the underlying issues that came out in the years that this case was being investigated, and then went through the court system after an arrest. But I'm still always returning back to the question that I had when I first read the story about this hearing. Possibly guy in prison for a crime. He didn't commit. Or we have a guy in prison. For ten years. For comedian a horrible crime. Killing three people and almost killing a fourth. It doesn't seem it's any kind of resolution at this case, even though it's a closed case. These questions still remain. What's most concerning is that Kevin Pratt is the one who committed these crimes than somebody else did, and somebody else has gotten away with murder. Kevin Pratt is set to be released from prison on October seventeenth twenty twenty one. Thank you for listening to this episode of loneliest Florida. The conclusion of the NCAA murders. That horrifying crime took place in August of two thousand nine. Just two months later. Another baffling case landed in the same city. Next week we'll dive into this new case one that started as a simple disappearance. A woman had left a late night work shift and was never seen again. Her friends and family started revealing secrets that had police suspecting. Something violent had happened when mysterious text started coming in from her phone, they were convinced. So they try to simple, but unusual tactic. Something so unusual judge had to sign off on it. It was a dramatic amble. But if it worked, could solve the case. Listen next week for the story of the disappearance of suspense. Felonious Florida is produced by the south Florida Sun-Sentinel on. Wondering if you're enjoying the podcast, please rate us on apple podcasts and tell you friends about our show. It's available online at felonious, Florida dot com. Apple podcasts, one dot com or wherever you listen to podcasts, you can go online to see photographs video and read more about the cases were featuring at felonious Florida dot com, and be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. 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The Killer Clown of Wellington, Part 2 | 7

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The Killer Clown of Wellington, Part 2 | 7

"James Sasser is in his auto parts store in the town of the hokey, Florida. It's typical spring day in this little farming community. The humidity is oppressive but James has stores air conditioner cranking. A few customers come and go through the glass doors, and then one of his regulars comes in. She owns a small used car. Lot nearby with her husband. So she's a familiar sight to James and the co worker who was in the store with him. But today, she gives them a jolt. They watch as she bounced through the door and up to the counter dressed in full clown suit. We were both completely surprised when she came in the store dressed head to toe, and this clown outfit was makeup and everything. The customer explains the costume away. She says she does parties for kids. Poker. Quirky little town. And her story makes sense. So James brushes it off. Nothing about it. Would make you suspicious in anything. Just well, that's just what she does on the side. No big deal. But it was a bigger deal than he thought at the time. On Memorial Day weekend. Nineteen ninety James saw. The news reports about a clown showed up at the front door of a Wellington home and shot. Marlene Warren in the face. Police were looking at two people as possible suspects. One of them was named Sheila Keane? Eleven days after the murder James called police to tell them about that spring day when Sheila Keane came into his store dressed as a clown. Hi, this is Medicaid Austin. And I want to tell you about a better option for women who call her their hair for decades. They've had two choices. It was either the time and expense of a salon or outdated at home hair coloring products. 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If you think, you know, everything about at home hair-color think again, find your perfect shade at Madison Reed dot com. Don't forget the promo code Florida. From the south Florida sun sentinel and association with wondering this is baloney as Florida the podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I am mccade Austin along with reporter Tanya Allen as. And this is the conclusion of the killer. Clown of Wellington. On the morning of may twenty six nineteen ninety Michael Warren was in a car with two of his friends on his way to a horse race in Miami. He was halfway there when his wife son Joey called with the news that Marlene had been shot. With his wife clinging to life Michael turned around and headed straight for the hospital. He wasn't there for very long before the glare of investigators turn his way. An anonymous call came into police within two hours of the shooting telling them to ask Michael Warren a few questions, Michael and the young woman. He was having an affair with Sheila, Keane. Just months before Marlins murder. She left her husband and her relationship with her boss was heating up. She worked on his used car. Lot a tough and fearless repo woman known to carry a gun. Not what you'd expect for somebody who grew up in a little community known as America's sweetest town. She came from Clewiston in Florida's heartland region where she grew up in a close knit family. The town is on the southwest shore of giant LEGO would show be it's bordered by sugar plantations. And that's where it gets sweet nickname. She lives down Robert owned a construction company in nearby Indian town an agricultural community in the middle of the state. She was headstrong a striking brunette who attracted a lot of boys. An ex-boyfriend said Sheila loved country music, dancing and nothing more than hopping into a four wheel drive for a truck through mud and woods. Another man who dated Sheila said, quote, she was a pretty girl and she stood out. It was her long Brown hair. A former classmate said it made her kind of crystal. Gayle type she was an average student who chose to enroll in adult education rather than attend her final year of highschool and she had brushes with the law in nineteen eighty four. When Sheila was twenty one she was charged with shoplifting seventy seven dollars and sixty cents worth of merchandise. In Palm Beach county. A couple of years later police in Margate Florida, arrested her on a misdemeanor theft charge. She pleaded guilty and was sentenced to six months of probation. She got pregnant when she was twenty three years old six months in she married. The baby's father Richard keen in front of a notary. It was may thirteenth nineteen eighty seven. The two met when she was in high school and Richard was dating her cousin. She looks at her sights on him and kind of stole him away. Her mother said. Richard was eighteen years older than Sheila and a convicted felon. He had a reputation as a troublemaker and busy body. According to news reports Richard was a former director of the United clans of America, one of the largest white supremacist organizations in the country. And he had a hand in organizing in Florida for the presidential campaign of George Wallace. A staunch opponent of the civil rights movement in nineteen eighty one Richard was sentenced to ten years in prison for marijuana trafficking after he was involved in a shootout with authorities on a rural airstrip in Georgia three months into their marriage in August, nineteen eighty seven she gave birth to their son Charles Alan, keen, the family of three lived in a small apartment in front of a pokey trailer park owned by Richard's parents Sheila and Richard helped run the park and enabling used car lot. They also got into the car repossession business. And that's when the world of Michael Warren and shield keen collided on a lot of Michael's used car dealership. Bargain motors. By January nineteen ninety Sheila split up with Richard and her affair with Michael was in full swing. After shooting Marlene Warren on her doorstep on may twenty six nineteen ninety the killer. Dresses, a clown casually strolled back to the Chrysler lebaron at arrived in and drove off but police were on the trail almost immediately an anonymous tip focused their attention on Marlene's husband, Michael and the repo woman from his lot Sheila keen with Marlene on life support nearby palms west hospital I detective approached Michael and asked him questions about the shooting. Michael was quick to say he had quote, no idea who would do this to his wife. He was on his way to watch a horse race in Miami. As the bullet was being fired. He suggested to the detective that perhaps it was a grudge shooting committed by an victim tenant, Michael and Merlene owned seventeen rental properties in a rough part of Palm Beach county and Marlene managed them that meant having to collect rent and Vic tenants who couldn't pay. And what about the clowns getaway car the white lebaron that had no license plate? Michael said, he didn't know anyone who owned a car like that. And he only dealt and Chevrolets at bargain Motors, but one of Michael's biggest competitors pay less rent. A car did deal with Chrysler's and just twelve hours after Merlene was shot. Another anonymous tip came into police. The caller said that a white Chrysler lebaron had been stolen from PayLess just two weeks earlier in a case that was linked to bargain Motors. A couple of visiting from out of town had rented a lebaron from PayLess a lot in West Palm Beach. Not far. From Michael warns bargain Motors. They called the number. They found on an ad in a telephone book to get instructions for how to return the car, but they unknowingly called bargain Motors. Instead the person who answered the call told the couple to leave the car outside the gate to pay less with the keys in the sun visor detective page McCann's had that's what they did. I the Carson the berry was was a car from a PayLess Renna car, which was a different business from Mike warns business, which was bargain Motors. The people who had rented the car had seen an ad in the newspaper, and they went to China may turn the caller early. Michael warns business had a head PayLess in his ad as well. So that people became confused and called the number thinking, it was pay less. But it was actually bargain Motors. And somebody at Motors answer the phone and told them to leave the car and leave the keys there they did. So later that night the couple had second thoughts about leaving the keys in the car. So they return. To pay less, and the lebaron was gone polices covered. That PayLess had recently sued bargain Motors over the phone book ad it was titled pay less combined into one word in smaller. Letters was written a bargain auto rentals. The PayLess lawsuit said the bargain Motors was deceptive and bargain was ordered to pay thirty five thousand dollars an employee at bargain told detectives that Michael stole three cars as quote payback for the lawsuit and the lebaron was one of them. Investigation was moving fast. Not even a day had gone by since the shooting and police already had a lead on the clowns getaway car. The also got leads on the flowers and balloons that were delivered to Marlene. And on a clown suit. Hi, this is Sean pits. From the flow Aeneas, Florida team, you spend a third of your life in your sheets. Are you getting the best possible? I know I am because I sleep and she's from Brooklyn in dot com. 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When you use the promo code, Florida at Brooklyn dot com. Brooklyn. And is so confident that they offer a risk-free sixty-nine satisfaction guarantee and a lifetime warranty on all of their sheets and comforters. Feeling way to get twenty dollars off and free. Shipping is to use promo code Florida at Brooklyn in dot com. That's B R O K L, I N E N dot com. Promo code, Florida. Brooklyn. These are the best sheets ever just before nine thirty that morning less than ninety minutes before the shooting. A woman went into a public school Shree store to purchase flowers and balloons to clerks remember selling her Memorial Day, arrangement white and red carnations and a white basket. She also bought to foil balloons. One of the balloon said, you're the greatest just like the one the clown delivered Marlene's door. He employs described the woman as kind of tall and thin with Brown hair. She wore a white painters, cap and gloves and paid with a one hundred dollar Bill. The grocery store was about a half mile from Sheila Qian's apartment, then an hour after the public's employees called police about the flowers and balloons, the owner of a costume shop called in a tip about a clown suit. On Thursday, two days before the murder a woman phone spotlight. Coppee Zeo a costume store on south Dixie highway in West Palm Beach. She wanted to know if they sold clown costumes, they did and at six pm the customers showed up. Two clerks were locking the doors, but she convince them to let her in. She promised to be quick the clerks remembered her having a long Brown ponytail and she wore no makeup. She was quote, very unisex and masculine in the way, she walked and talked. The customer chose the cheapest clown costume in stock. It was a candy pink and yellow suit with an orange wig and read foam knows. She told him a woman would be wearing the costume. And she also needed extra white paint enough to cover an entire face. It costs thirty six dollars and fifty cents. She paid for it with two twenty dollar Bill. She pulled from her pocket and left with the costume. Within days of the murder the public's clerks who sold the flowers and balloons and the costume store employees who sold the clown suit all picked Sheila Qian's picture out of a photo lineup. The bullet from the clowns gun hit Marlene Warren at point blank range, just above her upper lip it traveled into the back of her head and lodged in her c two vertebra. She was brain dead on arrival at the hospital, but machines were keeping her alive Orleans mother. Shirley, ght-wing said doctors told her they had no hope. I went in there and told taste of pull the plug. Hey, I didn't want my daughter to just lay there. Millie knowing that she should never be normal. She will need me wake up because of rain brains. Was shattered. So there's no. No way. So I figured. Go. That was high. Knowing that she just lay there. Nothing or rain functioning. So that was fine. Hi. But every time I think about it. How many company shooting in face? All are. All are vital organs were given to somebody else. She had that nother. Drivers. Marlene died at age forty on Memorial Day may twenty eighth nineteen ninety two days. After the clown shot her other than nurses. Nobody was at her bedside when she died. By then Michael Warren and Sheila Keane were already at the center of the murder investigation. Marlene's mother told police of the problems in her daughter's marriage. In fact, she said she told him that her daughter was afraid of Michael. Matter of fact, one time she came home because he's threatened. With the boys before Johnny kill. And then they talked her into going back about six or eight weeks before the shooting. Jamie Murray twang had what would be her last conversation with her stepsister Marlene. Jamie knew her sister and brother-in-law fought. But as they talked Marlene hinted at a darker shadow over her marriage. Marlene told her sister. If anything happens to me get Joey out. She's whole another sister, Julie that she was going to get a divorce. The affair between Michael and Sheila had bubbled to the surface of the murder case. And since nearly everything the Warren's owned bargain Motors. The lavish Wellington house all the rental properties. We're in Marlene's name police were onto a possible motive. Marlene sister. Deborah raker found out a day or two before the shooting about Michael's affair Merlene told her during a phone conversation that she confronted Michael and told him she wasn't putting up with him anymore. Debre said Michael beat her sister up about a year earlier and Marlene threatened to leave Michael allegedly told Marlene he would kill her. If she tried to even Joey Aarons who was home the day the clown shot. His mother told investigators that about three to five days before the shooting. She had threatened to leave Michael, quote, if he did not straighten up. Michael was never home and Marlene was depressed. She contemplated what to do with the rest of her life and dreamed of a normal marriage with the husband who was home nights and weekends. But that was a boring life to Michael. One by one the people who knew the Warren's and Sheila Keane piece together, the story of three lives lurching toward disaster. There was Marlene's nephew Ronald willows. Ian lived with the warrants for half a year in nineteen eighty eight. He said the two didn't get along. And that Michael quote ran around with other women a lot. And janey fitne- the girlfriend of a bargain Motors employee said Michael told her he would never divorce Marlene because she would take all of his money. One of Michael's cousins. Bobby Joe Carter said Michael treated, his wife like dirt, and he saw Merlene crying and upset in the past. So did Marlene's friend Mary Moomaw who saw sullen miserable Marlene when the two had lunch together three days before the shooting. Marlene confided in Mary that she no longer had a sex life with Michael. And that she believed he was having an affair with Sheila, Keane. In fact, just before the visit from the killer clown Marlene was making plans to take our son with her to Michigan. The warrants deteriorating marriage and Michael's affair with Sheila were at the center of the homicide investigation. But Marlene wasn't even buried when a more substantial break in the case was made in the parking lot of grocery store. It's the day before Marlene's funeral a car sits in a spot in the parking lot of shopping plaza in Royal Palm Beach, less than eight miles northeast of the Warren home. An employee of the winn-dixie grocery store at the shopping plaza knows the car's been there since at least for a m two days earlier. It hasn't been moved and nobody has been seen near it. She believes it's been abandoned and calls police. It's a white Chrysler lebaron and police trace it to pay less rent a car and discover had been reported stolen weeks earlier. So detectives TOA to police headquarters and call PayLess for permission to search it within two hours. Investigators are combing through it. Jim depalma was a reporter for the south Florida Sun-Sentinel who covered the murder and the early days of the investigation. I still remember to this day. We're the car was parked in the parking lot and having all the police surrounded with police tape, do not cry do not cross kind of crime scene tape and seeing it out all their and then work it for hours in the sun in that searing, he in the sun working on the fingerprints and everything on that car before they towed it away to see what was going on during their search police. Find cruelly orange fibers on the front passenger seat possibly from a wig. There are more in the backseat and inside the driver's door. For detectives dot confirms. It the killer clowns getaway car has been found. And along with the orange fibers police also discover several strands of long Brown hair within hours of the discovery of the lebaron investigators were at she looked apartment armed with a search warrant. Just a few days earlier Sheila was denying everything about having an affair with Michael about ever owning or dressing up in a clown costume about buying flowers or balloons and about the murder of Marlene Warren. She said she had been out repossessing cars on the day of the shooting. But couldn't recall any of the addresses, she'd visited later after police knocked on her door with a search warrant she clammed up. She told detectives, quote, if you meaning the police think I am a suspect than a wished to have a lawyer. They scour the place, including child's bedroom, where her son stayed Charles was a few months from his third birthday and spent time at sheila's apartment, even though he mostly stayed with his father Richard Keene from her apartment. Police took away shoes t shirts and jackets as well. As a hairbrush a bathroom trash bag and a full vacuum cleaner bag. They also found synthetic orange fibers the next day. Police watched from van as Marlene Warren was laid to rest one detective conducted video surveillance while an agent from the organized crime bureau. Photographed funeral guests with a thirty five millimeter camera the heat was on. So by the day of the funeral. Michael Warren, also had stopped talking to police and he had hired an attorney John as Wilbur. As the murder investigation entered its second week. It's high speed pace wasn't letting up on June fifth. A red foam knows was turned into police by a Royal Palm Beach man named Ray Gregory, although police have never given details about how and where it was found. They believed it was the nose worn by Marlene's killer. It had a hair on it. But tests in nineteen ninety didn't produce DNA profile. And then there was the bullet the clown fired into Marlene's face during her autopsy had been removed from her neck and examined by ballistics experts. What turned up was a curious possible link to a gun Sheila had recently been looking for. The bullet was either a thirty eight or three fifty seven caliber possibly shot from Remington a make less common than the popular Colt or Smith and Wesson models for detectives that revelation was significant she reportedly owned an obscure brand of a thirty eight caliber revolver, Richard Keene toll police Sheila had called him about a month before Marlene's murder asking if he'd seen that misplaced gun around the same time Sheila also asked her mother about it Mary shelter told police that Sheila had called to ask her to search her house in Indian town for the missing gun. It wasn't there. Detectives were amassing pile of circumstantial evidence in Orleans murder case. The stolen getaway car with the orange wig fibers the store clerks who said they sold Sheila flowers balloons and a clown suit the alarming conversations, Michael allegedly had with family and associates the gun, the warrants finances and the affair between Mike Lynch Sheila. But there were few if any physical clues could link anybody to Marlene's murder. Still there was a crime. They were closing in on. And it was going to send Michael Warren to prison for years. Among the earliest hands that Michael was breaking the law at his car. Lot came just a day after the clown shooting. A sergeant from the West Palm Beach. Police department called sheriff's investigators to tell them that bargain Motors had been under surveillance there were rumors of theft and other illicit activities. The police sergeant said Michael was allegedly involved in prostitution, drugs, loansharking, and dealing stolen property. Suzanne Gould was the office manager at bargain Motors. And she told police Michael had been altering the mileage of cars on his lot and falsifying title records and Russian air of unprofessionalism that went on just everything started heading south. I wanted to not be working very has just got and comfortable like I said I needed to job. And was is that. I saw fangs police were learning that Michael had been overcharging customers on insurance he was also rolling back mileage on rental cars to cover warranties and unused car. So he could charge more and police learn from employees at the law that Michael was running chop shop operation reports said that in one case Michael had one of his guys steal customers. Nineteen Eighty-nine Camaro from near her house after she gave him a down payment. He had charged her quote, extremely high payments to ensure it the customer reported, the car stolen, and Michael later collected the insurance check and deposit into bargain Motors Bank account. In July, two months after the shooting. Police went to bargain Motors to serve a subpoena on one of Michael's employees. The employees didn't appear to be there. But others in the office told police he was. He was hiding in a closet with Michael Warren. So officers knocked and they not for fifteen minutes. The police report said that when the two finally came out Michael was combative and verbally abusive to the officers. Three months later. The investigation of bargain Motors came to a head when police swarm the lot in surprise nighttime raid. On October twenty fifth nineteen ninety an arrest warrant was issued for Michael Warren and two of his employees twenty one year old twins. Ronald and Donald Carter. Investigators raided bargain Motors that night. They took away filing cabinets filled with business transactions and comb, the car lot looking for evidence of stolen vehicles. The arrested Ronald Carter at the lot. But his brother wasn't there. Neither was Michael. But the next day he turned himself in at the Palm Beach county sheriff's office. The state charged him with sixty six felonies on counts of racketeering, grand theft, conspiring to commit ground theft operating chop shop and dealing in stolen property when it came to the venture and killing NGO, Michael one and. I just wanted to keep myself separate for that. Because I had seen enough to know that. Moriah? No, the worse feel probably be. I ended up in that situation. And I tried to keep high is. Hixon a wall rather than you know, looking around, but I did look around not an idiot. So there was there is actively going on that I will not discuss you just like. Working in a festival. And I don't really wanna know anybody here at Michael's bond hearing on October twenty seven prosecutors said that Michael was possibly a suspect in Marlene's murderer prosecutor Alan Gieszi told the court, quote, we have strong information that links the defendant as a possible suspect in the murder of his wife Marlene warrant Michael stayed behind bars for three days until his mother. Joyce Clayton put her home up as collateral for a twenty five thousand dollar reduced bail. And he was released with his case is starting at slow dragged through the court system. Michael was free to resume his relationship with shield keen, and they did so in spectacular fashion. In January nineteen ninety one Marlene Warren had been dead for seven months, and Michael and Sheila, Ron -cation in the Bahamas. Couple who was also vacationing in the island was having dinner at Crystal Palace hotel. It was a sprawling beachfront resort and casino nestled among other posh hotels on the turquoise blue waters of now's north shore at the table next to them sat Michael Warren and Sheila, Keane. The couple told police that the two were acting strangely. And she listened worried about where to sit. But Michael was all talk. He bragged about the sweet he and Sheila were staying in and about the money. He was spending in the casino. He told them he had dropped and lost more than one hundred thousand dollars. Detective confirmed their story discovered that Michael Sheila had stayed at the resort between January seventeenth and nineteenth nineteen Ninety-one. They didn't have to pay for the room because they were frequent gamblers the hotel gave it to them complementary. By may nineteen ninety one a year had gone by since Marlene Warren's murder and the investigation was at a frustrating. Stagnation a detective working the murder case said there was enough evidence to make an arrest but stayed attorneys were concerned. There was not enough physical evidence for a successful prosecution. Just over a year after the murder, the northwestern Mutual Life Insurance company paid out the claim Marlene Warren's death policy Michael was the sole beneficiary. And he was given a check for fifty three thousand three hundred fifty seven dollars and thirty seven cents. As the months went by and Michael waited for his fraud and racketeering trial. Investigators got several tips that he was scheming about how to disappear they were told. He was amassing gold bars that he could quickly convert to cash in Casey had to flee the country. He was contacting plastic surgeons in Tampa and San Diego, and he was exploring how to start over with a new identity in Baja Mexico, but none of that happened and his trial for felonious activity on his car. Lot started in July nineteen ninety two. The charges against Michael were serious and the potential punishment severe if convicted as charged he faced a prison sentence of up to two hundred and thirty seven years. Over the two week trial. Prosecutors made the case that Michael was duping customers and insurance companies for financial gain. Michael's lawyer John Wilbur argued that discrepancies in mileage on car rentals and sales agreements were just the result of sloppy recordkeeping at bargain Motors. The jury of three women and three men deliberated for eighteen hours over a three day period. On august. Seventh nineteen ninety two forty year old Michael warrants that sullen as the verdicts were read. Guilty on one count of racketeering, twenty one counts of dominant fraud eleven counts of grant that and ten counts of petty theft. He turned himself into police at evening. The sentencing hearing happened on November eleventh nineteen ninety two Michael was facing a lengthy prison term. But the judge surprised everyone with dramatic decision in a severe admonishment of the state attorneys. The judge sentenced Michael to twenty two years of probation. No prison time, then he ripped into prosecutors. Home each County Circuit Court judge. Walter Cole bath junior said if Michael Warren's wife had not been the victim of the so-called clown murder. He never would have been tried for racketeering. If you have evidence to charge Michael with killing his wife. Judge Cole bath told prosecutors then quote get on with it. The state attorney's brushed off the judge's comments and appeal the sentence while they did Michael posted a seventy five thousand dollar bond and was released for the eighteen months. The appeal took little is known about where Michael Warren and Sheila keen were or what they were doing. But finally on March twenty fourth nineteen ninety four Michael was stripped of his freedom when an appeals court tossed out his sentence. Michael's new sentence was nine years in Florida state prison his term would start one week later. But I it was party time for Michael and a girlfriend he introduced as Debbie here's reporter tony'll as before Michael went off to prison is friends and south Florida through him a going away party and one of the people who was at that party. His name is Carol Mullins and he lives in Virginia. Now, he talked to police and said that that was the last time he saw Michael. So it was kind of. You know around spring and ninety four and he attended that party. And he said he'd never met anyone named Sheila. But the at this party Michael's girlfriend, Debbie was there, and she's the long Brown haired brunette, and the plan was that she was going to manage the restaurant that Michael had recently bought and Tennessee while Michael was locked up. And that was the last time Gary will remember seeing Mike or girlfriend Debbie on Thursday, March thirty first nineteen ninety four Michael Warren was behind bars. Michael served out his prison time in south Florida. The majority in a minimum security work camp in homestead south of Miami. He worked there as an orderly and a labor for the state transportation department his prison record was spotless. And after four years he was released early for good behavior. On New Year's Eve nineteen ninety seven Michael walked out of prison and into a fresh new life. He gave the corrections department has mother's address as his residents thirty two hundred south ocean drive in a building bordered on two sides by water and exclusive Palm Beach Florida, but whether he ever stayed there isn't known in fact, Michael's footsteps for the next two decades are difficult to trace and the investigation into Marlene. Warren's bizarre murder went ice cold. While Michael's new life after prison was mostly a mystery. There are a few clues one is a two thousand to document that homicide. Detectives in Florida wouldn't learn about for twelve years. It's a marriage certificate. On august. Fifteenth two thousand to just over a dozen years after his wife's murder, Michael remarried and his Las Vegas bride was Sheila, Keane. On the certificate, Michael. And Sheila Warren reported they were making their home in eastern, Tennessee. Meanwhile, in Florida reporter, Jim depalma says there was virtually no movement in the investigation into Marlene. Warren's murder we follow in following following. Then after a while the leads just kinda dried up we've found out you know, about Michael's previous arrest record. There was no proof about Sheila, Michael actually, have an affair and then on top of it whether that that had anything to do with more leans murder all of that was just you could take it so far. But then after that it became a dead end. And it became a dead end the police to the investigators they did everything they could at the time after a while there just wasn't really a lot to talk about. And we're a few tips, but mostly dead ends in one tip an anonymous caller on June twenty seventh two thousand said he knew the location of the murder weapon. And part of the clown costume police trace the call to Donald Carter one of Michael's twin cut. Who worked on his car lot? Argon motors. In a sworn statement Donald said that one day Michael gave him a gun to hide he put it in the attic of his parents home. He also said he was given a clown way to get rid of it was wrapped in spark plug wire. So it would sink in water donelson. He threw the whig into a canal off military trail in West Palm Beach. Detectives didn't find the gun in the attic and divers searched the canal for the whig with no luck. Two years later in late two thousand two police in Virginia contacted the sheriff's office in Palm Beach county about an investigation they were conducting into drug trafficking. The drug investigation was unrelated to the Wellington killer clown case, but it did come up in discussions between Virginia and Florida. Detectives. Michael Warren's name came up to. But the investigation produced no leads in the murder case. To Jim to Pala. It seemed interest in the case had dried up byu crime reporter for eighteen years will usually what you would see is when family members had unsolved murder in their family. They were always going to the police and the police always made an effort to like maybe have a year anniversary five year anniversary tenure diversity is needed to remind the public. We're still trying to solve this crime. But then never really happened to Morley's case everybody just kinda it kinda just kinda just kinda withered on the vine if I could say it that way but late in twenty thirteen the investigation was given new life long Brown hairs, orange fibers and new technology broke the case wide open and sent cold case. Detectives into the mountains of Tennessee and Virginia. It started with a one hundred twenty five thousand dollar grant from the federal government. Investigators from the Palm Beach county sheriff's office used it to form a task force aimed at once and for all closing the case of the killer. Clown of Wellington. The team took a fresh look at evidence that had been collected two decades earlier. The focus was on fibers and hairs that had been found in the clowns getaway car as well as the samples of Sheila Qian's hair that had been collected during the nineteen ninety search of her apartment. They also had hair and blood samples. She'll had provided. And a strand of long Brown hair that was found tangled in the ribbons attached to the clowns balloon delivery on the day of the murder. DNA tests had been done decades earlier, but we're not conclusive. With advances in DNA technology, the lead detective order new tests by an FBI lab. Investigators also track down witnesses for new rounds of questioning. One of them was an employee of Michael's named Claude Poitras and he had stunning information about the getaway car. But he was in Canada because he was a freight for his life. Claude worked at bargain Motors for three or four years and admitted to police that he was involved in the dominant tampering that sent Michael to prison, and he sealed the story about the stolen Chrysler lebaron. He said he was with Michael and Sheila when they drove to the PayLess car light. And he watched Michael get into the car and take the keys out of the sun visor and started up and drive away Claude said he and Sheila followed for ways, and then they pulled over Sheila got out and joined Michael the lebaron they went off and Claude return to the bargain Motors. He told police that a few weeks after the clowns getaway car was found. Michael told him to quote, never say anything about the Chrysler lebaron to anybody. When Michael stepped up the pressure on Claude. He began to feel endanger believe it's in early. Nineteen ninety one. Claude. He gets a subpoena from the state attorney's office to come in and speak to investigators. And as soon as Michael found out that Claude had gotten subpoenaed. He started calling Claude every day multiple times a day and Claude was feeling more and more unease -i other workers out the car lot said he was getting very nervous. In fact, he quit his job at the Karla and was waiting tables at an Italian restaurant nearby. And when he did give a statement to police in February of ninety one he had plans to in fact, leave the country and go back to Canada where he was from immediately. After the interview. He told police that he was afraid Michael would kill him or as girlfriend if Michael found out the Claud was talking to police was a quote from a police report, if Claude story was credible. He puts Sheila and Michael right in the clowns getaway car so in October twenty fourteen Boorda detective flew to Montreal and convinced Claude to cooperate with the investigation. Suddenly Marlene's murder case was picking up steam. On an early fall evening in September twenty seventeen Michael Warren and his wife Sheila are on the road driving back from visit to see her mother in Vermont. They're just a few minutes from their home in tiny historic Abington Virginia. But here in Abington, no one no Sheila to them. She's debbie. Up until last spring. Mike and Debbie Warren poured they're all into a popular little fast food drive through called the purple cow just across the border in Tennessee. It's a long busy Lee highway in a long but narrow building with a giant hamburger on the roof and four life size cows out front. The warrens are hard workers for at least a decade and a half. They pulled six day work weeks to make the burger joint a success. Their hours were so long that they spent more nights at the nearby home Sheila owned in a quiet suburban cul de sac, then in Abington at their grand lakefront mansion forty five minutes away. Abington is tucked in the Blue Ridge mountains, it's a quaint town where the oldest building dates back to seventeen seventy nine and its main street is quintessential USA brick storefronts, lined the main street there are teak stores a soda shop that spells it S H O P P E and the opulent Martha Washington in and now that the warrants had sold the purple cow there relaxing into retirement in the comforts of the steeple home. They had custom built in two thousand two. It's a massive house with a steep circular driveway concrete fountain and a boat dock out front. There are about two dozen equally lavish homes in the tightknit Herron point development. This is a community where neighbors buzz around on golf carts and stopped to chat when they see each other. Here. Mike and Debbie are warm quick to laugh inseparable couple. They even share a Facebook page their next door. Neighbors are their best friends and together. They celebrate birthdays holidays the advent of summer, Mike and Debbie loved throwing parties for friends often on their dock in front of their house other times they throw viewing parties in their basement where they have a movie watching room filled with collector pinball machines, nobody who knows the warrants here in Abington has a clue that either had been married before. They don't know they came from Florida that Mike had spent time in prison or that. Debbie's real name is Sheila keen, but on this little country road on their way back from Vermont. Mike and Debbie's past is about to catch up with them. They're winding through the hills in their black Cadillac SUV. It's evening around five thirty and they're about five minutes from home when a police car swings in behind them. They pull over at a dusty opening on the narrow country road. Michaels behind the wheel and deputy from the Washington county sheriff's office approaches his window. But he's here for Sheila. She looked keen Warren. And they have a warrant for her arrest. Startled and shaken she gets out of the V Michael now, sixty five can only watch as his wife is handcuffed and put in the back of a patrol car. Sheila asks the deputy in the car if she's under arrest Lieutenant Dewey Fulton. Answer's yes. Sheila has another question, but it's not about what she's under arrest four. She only wants to know quote is my husband under arrest. Lieutenant Fulton answers. Not yet. Finally in an interview room at the sheriff's office, an investigator asked Sheila she wants to know why she's being charged. When he tells her it's for the nineteen ninety murder of Marlene, Warren, Sheila Keane, says she doesn't want to talk and puts her head down on the table. The state attorney made the announcement. Miss Sheila Q mourn has been indicted. The first remote with a firearm. The potential penalty in this case is life in prison and potentially the death penalty despite a mountain of circumstantial evidence that began to pile up with an hours of the shooting. What was missing for almost three decades was physical evidence that directly tied anybody to the murder Palm Beach county sheriff Rick Bradshaw said investigators couldn't make a move against Sheila until they were certain. They would only get one chance at a conviction. Here's them thing to fake, somebody did something there's a Noah thing to know that they did it and be able to prove it a court. We wanna make sure we got the right person. Because if we don't have the right person number one, we don't want to put it in person in jail Nobre to the real perpetrators still out there. We don't want that to happen. What finally put Sheila Keenan handcuffs were hair and blood samples collected decades? Earlier. The new round of DNA tests ordered by Lee detective page McCann paid off. Mccoll cases, we kind of we have a big puzzle and some of the pieces already filled in in a lot of it was already filled in by the investigation done by the initial detectives. We just needed a few of those little pieces of the puzzle. And we were able to do that with Dan new technologies and DNA, and we were able to complete the puzzle in I think that's what led to the indictment the arrest after so many years took Florida and Marlene's family by surprise. The accused killer clown had been unmasked. It was news Marlene's mother. Shirley ght-wing had been waiting twenty seven years and four months to hear. I hope I hope he gets what she just. That's how I can say. I can wrist. As she looked keen sits in jail awaiting trial, many questions remain today. Undoubtedly one of the biggest among them is what role if any Michael Warren played in his wife's murder. The potential motives are hard to ignore the affair a five bigger insurance payment full ownership of the couples properties, including the car dealership. The lavish Wellington home, the seventeen rental properties. Records indeed show that investigators considered Michael suspect early in the investigation of his wife's murderer. But today late in October twenty eighteen police and prosecutors will only give one answer to the question of his involvement. The case is still ongoing, and we will definitely work diligently to determine if anyone else was involved. Sheila's lawyer richer Lubin insists police arrested the wrong person a case that lingered for this long without an arrest was was obviously not a slam dunk. Like, they knew who did it from the very beginning. Lubin says that not only is there. No, physical evidence against Sheila. Even the clowns gender is not known for certain Merlene, son, Joey and his girlfriend saw the clown that day in nineteen ninety and both told police they believed it was a man. But within two months of the murder police were convinced the clown was a woman, though, they have never said how they were. So certain. The question will likely come up at sheila's trial was without a man or woman. On Friday, October six twenty seventeen. Sheila Keane, Warren, pleaded not guilty to the murder of Marlene Warren. Prosecutors announced they will pursue the death penalty against her. Michael Warren remained in Abingdon Virginia. Where he currently lives alone in his lakeside mansion. The south Florida. Sun sentinel will continue to cover sheila's trial as well as any new developments. In the killer. Clown case felonious, Florida will bring you updates through social media our newsletter and bonus episodes you can sign up at felonious, Florida dot com. 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UPDATE: Verdict in the Casey's Nickelodeon Murder trial | 7

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UPDATE: Verdict in the Casey's Nickelodeon Murder trial | 7

"Michael Eibar is waiting anxiously outside of a courtroom in Broward County, Florida facing emotions he's experienced before in a room near by a jury is locked away trying to decide if Michael's brother Pablo Eibar is a murderer or a man wrongly accused just would be amazing to have my brother back. I lost my mother, and in a way, I lost my brother when I was very young. I have I have a picture of my mother, and my brother from that time before he got arrested next to my bed. So it'd be like getting half of your family value. You know? This is very possibly Pablo bars. Final chance to win his freedom. It's been almost a quarter century since that August day in nineteen ninety four when he was charged with murdering Bush, Casey, Sharon Anderson and Marie Rodgers now for a third time. He waits for twelve strangers to decide his fate and three families wait to find out. If they will finally see Justice served. It Saturday morning and the jury files into the courtroom, the fifth trial, and the extrordinary cases Nickelodeon murder case is about to come to an end. From the south Florida Sun-Sentinel and wondering this is a special episode of flow news, Florida, the podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host and mccade Austin along with reporter Rafael omega. The cases Nickelodeon murderers is the story that launched this show in early twenty eighteen if you haven't listened to episodes one through four we suggest you go back and catch up start with the episode, titled the executions the update you're about to hear will make a lot more sense. The Casey's Nickelodeon murder case has been remarkable since the moment a sheriff's deputy discovered the bloody crime scene July nineteen ninety four Butch Casey whose real name was Casimir Sikorsky was beaten and shot to death on his dining room floor next to him lay. The bodies of Sharon Anderson and Marie Rogers to twenty five year old women. He met at his nightclub cases Nickelodeon within hours of the gruesome discovery came explosive evidence, a now famous twenty two minute video recorded by a surveillance camera mounted in a high corner of which is house the camera recorded two intruders, bursting through a back door with their faces covered to conceal their identities recorded them terrorizing Butch Sharon and Marie it recorded them as they put bullets into the backs of all three, and then it recorded, what should have been a moment that made this an open and shut case with the only witnesses dead and unaware of the camera. Aim. Directly at him one of the intruders removed a t shirt that had been covering his head and expose his face to the world. But although the video led police Apollo Eibar and eventually his friend Seth panel. It was the t shirt that the unwitting intruder removed from his head that would become the key to the case that and the advances in DNA technology that expose secrets held for twenty five years in the fibers of the blue shirt found outside Bush Casey's front door and last week. That's what prosecutor Chuck Morton told the jury in Pablo Ivers murder trial. The more things change. The more their status. This case has been hard of this court system since nineteen ninety four. Much changed since then you see the right here in the courtroom. Technology, particularly is different. We see no changes technology that occurred in our lives. Tiger fords. Which was a department was place. We seem changes have been made with respect to for wizards sites. You heard all that testimony. As believes Jay. Will. So we are. But again, how do we get the more things change? The more forensic evidence has alluded. The prosecution at every step in this sprawling case. There was none during that first trial in nineteen ninety seven when Pablo and south were tried together as co-defendants that trial ended with a hung jury. There was no physical evidence. Again, two years later when Seth was back on trial after that jury found him guilty of the murders. The Florida Supreme Court decided that the evidence against him was so thin. So circumstantial that it threw out the conviction and ordered a new trial three years later. Seth's team presented a jury with new information. It had discovered trying to convince them that Seth wasn't a killer for Seth waiting. During deliberations seemed like an eternity. It was a was ten days eleven days. I think that's the longest in Florida history. Longest in US history for capital case for jury be out. I remember when they were. Reading the verdict when they say count one not guilty. You know, the first thing I'm thinking, okay. We have lesser charges on thinking. Okay. I'm not guilty. I agree murder. But then when they went to count to they said, not guilty in my my legal sense kicked in and I say hold on. And then they say count three not guilty, and I say that's murder murder murder all three counts, and I just broke down from right there. I didn't hear anything else. After twenty two years south was free. It was I mean, I was like I don't know living on a high out of this world. I couldn't go to when I got out. I couldn't go to sleep for three days. I said a nine hundred ninety seven I said, no ninety five I said Godwin one day, if I ever get found guilty, the first place, I wanna go. I wanna go to the closest church, and I wanna get down on my knees. Imprint that church on care. What time it is? And I wanna go to the beach and put my back on a palm tree. So I got out at three o'clock in the morning, and the nearest church was I think it was ninth avenue David boulevard, if you had a little bit south as a Catholic church, and I didn't care if it was Catholic Baptist Pentecost Jehovah witness. I was just I it was like forty degrees out. I was freezing. I wasn't freezing. But my friend. I was with me she was called. And I I was out there for like twenty minutes on my hands and knees, and and I was just praying, and I stopped by Dunkin donuts get some coffee, then I went to. The beach on commercial in a with a periods. And I was going to go down there by the ward at first it was pitch dark. But then I started hearing the roaring the ocean. And you know, I haven't been around something like that almost twenty years. And I was scared. I said I didn't come this far the ocean swapping up. So I stayed away from the water and win put my butt in the Gulf against a tree. And I just enjoyed it for about an hour. Pabo Eibar has faced a tougher challenge. Since the hung jury nineteen ninety seven primarily prosecutors allege that it is his face that could be seen on the video footage during the murder, but the image on the video is grainy and Pablos lawyers and supporters have insisted it's not him. It's the most important piece of evidence until now and the most controversial. Debbie is the sister of one of the murder victims. Sharon anderson. They can for years with with description of the type of grainy as though you can't make out who I look at that type until you. My sister is for how can anyone who knows? How far look at that. And say that that's not him. So yeah, it's angering I can't tell you how many people who know be known me all these years who, of course, will ask and they will always say to me how can it be that the entire homicide? And you guys still don't have any very frustrating to explain that to people because even with all of your legal exposure. Because I thought of starting at this point even with everything I understand about the case it is. Maddening to watch it and what someone with nothing on his face. Until your sister and have that piece of very long evidence bequest, and there are people who kill and rob and seven eleven videos who trials all. Fix. Evidence against Pablo was strong enough to convince a second jury that it was indeed his face on the video. He was convicted and sentenced to death. But for the second time in the cases, Nickelodeon murder case, the Florida Supreme Court stepped in and threw out the conviction. This time they ruled up Pablo hadn't received an adequate defense from his lawyer who was ill during the trial. Pablo would face his third jury. But this time a tactic used by his defense years. Earlier would come back to haunt him. With nothing to lose before his trial and twenty ten Pablo. Eibar team took a gamble. They sent the blue t shirt found at the crime scene to a forensics lab in Virginia. They were hoping to find DNA on the shirt that could pin the murders another potential suspect. But the results were negative and the T shirt went into storage since then a new prosecutor Williamson Claire has been working to convict Pablo. And he had a thought about the t shirt Pablo had attested for another suspects DNA, but had the lab ever tested the t shirt against Pablo's own DNA. It had not Sinclair ordered the test. And this time the news was bad for Pablo. The results of the new test showed that Pablo was a major contributor to the personally recovered DNA the probability that it was a different Caucasian man was one in eleven million. The odds shrank to about one in thirty five million among Hispanic men, the momentum shit. Shifted from the defense to the prosecution. Suddenly the controversial grainy video wasn't the most important piece of evidence against Pablo. Ibar jury selection began October first twenty eighteen and by thanksgiving, it was complete. The courtroom is packed on the opening day of the trial. Eibar wife brother and father are joined by other family members with them as a delegation of senators from Spain where I bar has become a celebrity among opponents of the death penalty. One Senator rows of in del of Madrid says, quote, we are not here to say he is innocent. We are here as opponents of the death penalty. We don't want his life to be at risk. We want a fair trial the group from Spain has raised more than one million dollars for Pablo's. Current defense on the other side of the courtroom is a single row of just four people which Casey's daughter Alexis who is now thirty five years old Marie rudders mother, Margaret and brother Karim and a Representative from the victim's advocate office, which helps family members understand the legal process during murder trials. Deb buoy. Sharon sister sat through all of the previous trials. But now lives in central Florida with her children and isn't at the trial. Their mother Barbara Jones died in twenty seventeen prosecutor Williamson Claire opens the case against Pablo by highlighting his newest weapon. The DNA publish DNA was on the t shirt Sinclair tells the jury so is the DNA of Sharon Anderson, one of the murder victims this proves it Sinclair says Eibar is one of the killers. The DNA evidence on the t shirt is damaging for Pablo and his lawyers aren't hiding it at his trial. It's true. His attorney Kevin Kulik tells the jury Pablo's DNA is on the shirt, and so a Sharon Anderson's, but he says there was someone else's DNA in the fibers to unknown number one. That's what Kulik called him the source of the DNA hasn't been identified. But Kulik tells the jury that DNA belongs to the real killer. Defense lawyers argued that the murder investigation has been tainted by misconduct almost from the start. And there's at least one person out there that police knew about but never pursued. He walked into the Broward sheriff's office after the murders and claimed responsibility for taking Bush Casey's Mercedes from his house and driving it seventy miles north to Palm Beach county where he said on fire near the Florida Everglades. Seth panel says he discovered notation of the alleged confession in police files while he was appealing his conviction on death row two days after the murders. I I wasn't even a suspect. Mr. Eibar wasn't even a suspect. When you have a gentleman at walks into brow sheriff's office, and this guy confesses says, yeah, I burnt the car. My boss told me to do it. How does not arrest him immediately for grand theft auto possession of stolen property doesn't make sense in. Why they don't call West Palm Beach shares office. Hey, we got the guy will blue car. In your county. You arrest them? Then I'm not here. Mr. Eibar is not here that could have been the murderer. But what happens BSO less mango less than twenty four hours later. He's dead. The man's name was Johnny McGill. He was shot to death outside a Miami strip club the day after he gave his brief statement to a deputy. He's in front of a club. They asked him to come out. They kill them co. But that's for me. A lot of answers are in a lot of questions. Don't get answered. Nobody wants to answer these questions whenever you let somebody that confesses to the murder. He dies later. I mean, there's a lot on answer questions here. Prosecutors say that false. Confessions are not uncommon in high profile murder cases by the time. The witnesses statement came to light investigators were already confident they had the right men in custody. The idea of south testifying and Pablos current trial was a potential problem for both the prosecution and the defense he was on the witness list for both sides and his first appearance in the courtroom early in the trial caused waves. The first day of the trial is already dramatic as the testimony draws to a close Broward, Circuit Judge. Dennis Bailey calls the attorneys to the front of the courtroom. And the jury sent out. Judge Bailey tells the lawyers he had been observing the jury during the testimony of an early witness and noticed one of the jurors had fallen asleep. The sleepy juror has to go. Judge Bailey says and the prosecutors and defense lawyers agree just hours into the trial and one of the carefully chosen. Jurors has already been dismissed. On day two of the trial the courtroom. Theatrics continue as a police. Witnesses testifying the courtroom doors open and a bald stocky man with wire framed glasses walks in and takes a seat in the second row directly across from the families of the victims. It takes no time at all for court deputies to recognize that Panella and for the judge to immediately order him to leave the courtroom. The law is clear anyone who was a witness in a criminal case cannot watch the proceedings until after they are called to the stand and Seth was a potential witness for both sides. He was not welcome in the courtroom when prosecutors sat him down for a deposition in twenty eighteen Seth declined to answer their questions pleading his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. But when judge Bailey ordered him out of the courtroom Panella was anything. But silent I was thinking that I could go in there. And just and listen, you know, because. I was opposed to start my trying to and I found some evidence that week before my trial was going to begin. And it totally turned his case around. So may seeing everything that was that was hidden and not revealed and lied about. I wanted to come in and see are they doing the same exact thing? But they wouldn't let me come in. Because I think they know that the prosecution knows that I do have very valuable insight into this case because I lived in breathe it for eighteen and a half years and instead of buying cupcakes. Cookies Honey buns by law books. You know? And I understand it. I understand the law. And I I just wanted to come in there and see for myself. It was if it was going to be the same. And I just wanted to see it from the other side because I was on the on his side, Mr. bar side CNN I just wanted to see how they were operating. This are walked in. I sat down next thing. You know, deputy got up made a big scene in front of the jury. He's like, hey, hey, you gotta go. You gotta go. I mean, these are professionals. They've been doing this a long time. That's a no, no. We know how to go side bar. We know how to. Not to get the jury out. But again, it's the game within the game. You know, I gotta believe that Jesus. Some of these bailiffs been here thirty plus years. They know not to call the scene if they tell everybody before trial not to call the wider day. And you know, they have pictures, you know, they they had a picture of me outside of the door for you know, of any bail of sees me or any armed guards. He's me don't let me in like what what did I do like, I'm medicines. I had I've never caused a problem this courtroom. I never ran. I never threaten anybody. They don't want. The jury to see the truth. They wanna see, you know, they don't want the jury to see me free. Because then what it does is make make people doubt. Doubt the state's theories. So the the bail of told me to go, and I mean, I know I know my rights this is a public court. This is anybody from the pub who come in found not guilty. I wanted to stay in there, and I didn't wanna leave. I wanted an explanation. Why am I being tossed out? So the judge asked the jury leave. The judge asked me leave. And I asked him why? And judge then told me you're on the defense, you're on the state's witnesses and the defense witness list, and you're not allowed legal legally to be in the courtroom because your witness. I said I I mean, I understand the legal the legal delete will block that was put up by state. I understood that, but I still wanted to object for the record because I believe I should be able to be in there. I believe it was a tactic by the state, and I told that to the judge I explained that to him. And he let me know that you're you're. Your objection is noted for the record. And I did tell them, you know, I did make make a statement. You know, you guys don't want to jury see the truth. You guys don't wanna know that Mr. Chuck Morton frame me and hid evidence, and nobody wants the truth here. He asked me to leave. And then I respectfully left. The courtroom drama of the first two days is over and the trial settles into day after day of gritty testimony on day three of the trial. Jurors finally see the grainy video footage that until the DNA discovery was the prosecution's most damaging evidence against Pablo. The brutal scene plays out in front of the court, including enhanced still images of the moment. One of the intruders were veal's his face to the camera later, an assistant medical examiner walks. The jury through the horrifying fatal injuries to Butch Sharon and Marie Murray's mother. Margaret looked straight down as autopsy photos of her slain daughter are displayed on an overhead projector, which is daughter who was ten at the time of the murders. Takes in the testimony and images betraying. No emotion. Then the DNA evidence is shown to the jury whom in a seer an analyst at the Virginia lab that did the testing explains the results that show Pablo's DNA on the t shirt. But Pablo's defense pushes back suggesting that the results could have been tainted by cross contamination touch DNA is after all a new technology and the evidence being tested is decades old. The new DNA result are damning. But if the jury can be given a solid reason to question them Pablo Mamie that much closer to freedom. The defense just needs to present the jury with reasonable doubt. Then the defense tries a tactic that sat panel for us during his retrial, the one that led to his acquittal they go after the surveillance video that all those years ago seemed to show a grainy out of focus Pablo Eibar at the murder scene in early January, rare Evans takes the stand. He's a facial recognition expert from the United Kingdom hired by bars defense team to examine images made from the video Evans tells jurors that a careful comparison of Pablo's features to the man seen on the images proved conclusively in his opinion that they were not the same. Person. Prosecutors for the state of Florida emphasized that the facial recognition expert was offering his opinion. And it was they say a personal opinion rather than a professional won the state even counters with its own expert who concludes that it's impossible to be sure. Whether or not it was Pablo Eibar on the video. In fact, prosecutor Morton argues, it doesn't matter after seven weeks of testimony. What really matters is the forensic evidence. Pablo Eibar left his tee-shirt behind at the murder scene. Worn says, that's the entire case published lawyers repeatedly attacked the DNA results reminding the jury that the evidence could have been contaminated and possibly even manipulated and they make a more emotional plea. It was after all Pablo Eibar who requested the DNA tests on the T shirt eight years earlier, if he was the killer, why would he want investigators to keep looking at such a significant piece of evidence, quote, only an? Isn't person someone who knew he had nothing to lose. What have even considered testing that shirt? Again, Pablo's lawyer tells the jury prosecutor Morton pounces he reminds the jury that Pablo never ask the lab to test the short against his own DNA. It was the state of Florida that made that request who was right. And what did it all add up to that would have to be for the jury to decide at the end of the day on January sixteenth closing statements end. Judge Bailey gives his instructions to the jury and orders them to begin deliberations sequestered behind closed doors. They work for an hour before breaking for the night. The real waiting will begin the next day and for both sides. It's an excruciating day. My name is Tania Eibar I have been married to public for twenty years. This is not it's not easy. I think this is alternately the hardest part of all of this is the waiting now. Again, you this has been given to twelve people. And now you have to wait for them to make a decision, and that is just very unsettling. Tanya was Paulos girlfriend at the time of the murder and has steadfastly supported his innocence. It's obviously been very difficult not anything that. I when I thought about having my future. And you know, when you're kidding, you think about you know, I'm going to be married to this person. You know, we're going to have this, obviously, this was not in my plan of books, but it's this has been very difficult. But aside from that I've had obviously a lot of support. And I think just in general and myself, I tried to remain very positive and try to save ERI strong. So you know, my life is definitely been far from easy. If anything it's it this situation is just a. Very difficult situation. There's so much that, you know, you miss out on there so much that, you know, the average of what people are doing on the weekends, and, you know, enjoying family. We're going on vacations and things like that that you do with your spouse. Obviously, I I don't do those things, you know, I've done a lot of going to the prison visiting public prison, which is not the way you really want to spend your weekend. Seth panel knows what it's like to wait for a jury. He's done it three times before. In the cases, Nickelodeon murder case, it's gut wrenching. He can't eat. It's hard to sleep. Even though you don't get much sleep. It's just, you know, you try to think positive, but it's you know, you you don't know which way you'll never know which way Jerry speaking, I went through three jury trials when you think, you know, you're it's totally opposite. So I kind of gave up on trying to think where the jury is. And you know, you look at it be an innocent person. And having been convicted before and knowing where he's at sitting there, you know, being innocent man, I understand what he's feeling what he's going through like Mike gonna go back to it. I, you know, you know, you look at the numbers I was twenty one. And I mean, he's probably forty five forty six also and it took him from two thousand six until what two thousand nineteen thirteen what almost thirteen years. To get another shot. So it's like, you know, you don't got too many more left in you when you're forty five, you know, the pill pellet processes long drawn out. So you wanna go home, and it hurts your anxiety everything. Dieties were being felt on both sides. Debbie says sitting in waiting for a jury is breathtaking never know what you're going through the five and gosh, offend five six miles and every one of them have been different though, you never know. Right. And you why you help because if you've been in the states or long as I had everything that I have learned that the jury has never been told. And that's the thing. But it is talented when you're the family member, and you have been sitting in Florence and listening to tech on the outside. The jury to know that jewelry will not know them of those things really and insta- liberations. The jury asks to hear the DNA testimony again, it takes the entire morning of Friday January eighteenth. As the waiting resumes, the Aries abound. What was the jury listening for brother? Michael Eibar wonders where they try to convince a hold out to convict or to acquit. What were they discussing the deliberations room at six PM Friday? The jury sent a note to the judge they're done for the day. They want to return to the hotel where they have been sequestered since deliberations began. It could mean that they reached a decision and want to sleep on it. It could mean they're split and tired of arguing it could mean anything deliberations resume Saturday morning, but not for long less than an hour into the day. The jury sent a note to the judge they have reached a verdict. Charlie three to spot in the circuit court in the seventeenth traditional circuit in our county, Florida is ninety four one zero six to CF ten being just dynasty bailing state afford or find a hearses manual environment Bennett. Verdict count line. We the jury five fouls as to count one charging document Bennett is guilty of murder in a I agree as charging charging so cereal's nineteen January to us nineteen at four Arto rally more quarters. Counting ring carry FIS as follows. Document. Martorana. I agree as talks to jogging. So say we all. Or to customer oil, Florida, horrors. Count. Reach five is followed as to count three alleging charging document healty degree in charge. Charging documents sociale stating that does nineteen horn Arar county Simon over. The jury finds Pablo Eibar guilty on all three counts of murder and the cases Nickelodeon case as he is handcuffed by a deputy Pablo. Shakes his head in frustration later. One of his attorneys Benjamin Waxman expressed his disappointment. So disappointed with the verdicts. With with. I thought I talk with my wife all the way here. I thought about all of the different circumstances. And I really I really thought it was going to go away. And it's just been this long journey, and you know, I just feel like if the journey wasn't to find Pablo not guilty to finally bring Justice to him. Then why why why did why did in the order of the world wide? Why did we go through? The conviction of Pablo Eibar brings to an end nearly twenty five year long nightmare for Debbie. Allen ca maintain offense a sanity and a faithful this position then really challenging to to have to go to not just be insult of having repeatedly go through the legal system. But the injury of within this family my twin tire country right money from their government town moralize about someone is though he is some angel that was mistakenly picked off the streets and south Florida. That's angering I don't know in my situation would be angry. Weeks the same jury that convicted Pablo of murdering Sharon Anderson, Marie Rogers and Butch Casey. We'll have to decide unanimously if he should be put to death for the crime, Deb says she'll be there to tell the jury about the sister. She lost on investing. I do with heart. I don't have a grip on going back this. But I'm talking to ride it out that I could get through it. But yeah, I think the very least that I do is an opportunity to him the martyr end the jury because he held my sisters and destroyed so much in my own family. Certainly my mom vets with hastened by this you had three forms of cancer. When she died, the stress is I can't put into work so at the title and court. There really isn't you know, people I think when a package take up and say, oh, they finally have closure or maybe they can have Pete. And it's plenty five years later. Can you really that? No. You can't the only thing you can be thankful for is that it seems like it is something end and that individual will never ever ever be free on the street again. So rack had did he and disaster someone else's fight? The only great that's been is that I have a beautiful family at Houston gives me a reason to everyday tell another story about my sister, someone who they never met and to look for ways and enjoy you know, my mind life, right that in sort of abuse heart into see my kids has a has a vest Bali back in the live them. But but there there's there's there's poetic would've at the end of this for anybody. Flown is Florida will keep following Pablo. Ibar case including his sentencing next month. Follow us on social media and your Email to our newsletter felonious, Florida dot com to get updates. Thank you for listening to this special episode of colonial Florida. If you've enjoyed the show, please give us a five star rating on apple podcasts and be sure to tell your friends about our show. It's available online at bologna, Florida dot com. Apple podcasts one dot com or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can read more about the cases, Nickelodeon murders, and the other cases, we've covered including photos and videos at felonious, Florida dot com and be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. The loan is Florida is produced by the south Florida, sun sentinel and one day this episode was reported by Rafael omega with previous reporting by Lisa Arthur, and I'm your host and sound designer and the Kate Austen. Our producers are David shoots and one Ortega editing ranchera Guskey sound direction by Sean pits with additional recordings by Carleen Jean unlock. Keta pay. The felonious Florida team includes Iran zoo, Danny Sanchez, and Dana banker.

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Introducing Man in the Window | 8

Felonious Florida

14:09 min | 1 year ago

Introducing Man in the Window | 8

"Hi. This is McCain Austin from felonious Florida in the nineteen seventies and eighties, folks. On the other side of the country were living in fear. A serial attacker, in California was carefully planning and executing brutal home invasions. This man would become known over the years by several different nicknames. The by salia ransack her the east area rapist and the original night stalker, too many, he was also just the man in the window a faceless. Figure on the other side of the glass in a brand new podcast from the Los Angeles Times and wondering man in the window Pulitzer prize winning reporter page of Saint John takes you deep into the untold story of the origins of the Golden State killer, and why he was never stopped for the first time you'll hear directly from victims and trace his path of devastation through their recollections. You're about to hear a preview of man in the window in which you'll meet the first person to recognize the evil inside of Joseph James Dangelo his young girlfriend who turned down his. Marriage proposal while you're listening. Go subscribe to man in the window on apple podcasts or wherever you're listening, now, there's also a link in the episode knows that will take you there. Man in the window, contains depictions of sexual violence and is not suitable for everyone. Please be advised. This was pasture. Sweltering, California day. And the Bonnie Colwell is climbing the steep hill of the old family farm. Little. At the very, very top is a tall farmhouse Bonnie's, old home. It was right here, forty eight years ago, the Bonny told her fiance that their engagement was over. He was very happy about that. He was. Not, not calm about it. She was still a teenager barely out of high school, and he was an older. Vietnam, vet named Joe. It had been exciting at first, but now she was ending things between them. Just I wanna marry you. I wanna marry you. You. We are perfect together, and I don't want you to do this. I think he kind of felt like the door was closing, and there was no bargaining to get it open. Again. I said, I, I just want to marry you more. She gave him back her diamond engagement ring. He took it then step off her porch in seem to throw it. And that's where we thought he serves her family and friends spent days looking for that ring. Finally, they realized it was all fake. He hadn't thrown the ring at all still Bonnie figured that was the end of it. But she was wrong. Around the side of the house. There's a line of windows at I level. So this is my parents bedroom. This is another bedroom in between this was my bed. A few weeks after the break-up Bonnie was asleep in bed and something startled her awake. And what woke you tap on? And I just pulled just thin curtain window and I pulled it back and he was pointing a gun at my face. She buried the memory of that night for forty nine years until the day she got a call her ex fiance. The man at her window that night had just been accused of being one of the worst serial killers in California history. The Golden State killer. From the Los Angeles Times in wondering, I'm page Saint John in. This is man in the window. This is up one phantom in the fog. Between nineteen Seventy-three nineteen eighty six a phantom Rome, California. He burglarized hundreds of homes sexually assaulted fifty women and children and murdered. Thirteen people at first he went unnoticed, and then he became unstoppable. He was known by many names. The bazillionaire ran Sacher the east area rapist, the creek killer the original night stalker and finally the Golden State killer. In two thousand eighteen police for the first time connected those names in horrific crimes to one, ma'am. As an investigative reporter, I wanted to know how someone could rape and kill so freely and then go for decades without being caught. The search for answers took me to a small town Rancho Cordova. In the early. Seventies, it's a tangle of lupin roads and cul de sacs clustered around an air force base. Residents here are largely transitory young military families on the move and they're tract homes are cheap nearly identical with sliding patio doors in the back and in front large windows that face the street at night. The luminated windows, present display of the private lives within at first glance. It seems like a middle class suburb, but there are no street lights and the homes are a little too close together. It has the appearance of being middle-class, but without the security sergeant Richard Shelby is the sheriff's Nightwatch commander for Sacramento county recalled the dividing line, everything south of the American river is his stuff from rhetoric Adoga anything below that he's a tall lanky, man. Been missing a finger from partners gum that wants misfired, and he's known for his stubborn independence prickliness that makes him a thorn in the seat of his superiors. There's a spate of break ins in his patrol area. What did you make of the, the burglar is? Yeah scene. And just thought just near the bird, rains wrote it off. Only later in retrospect, will theft strike Shelby is unusual. This burglar doesn't touch expensive items like televisions or stereo systems. Sober. Coins took cash, he took jewelry. Sometimes you take one set. When piece set single earrings coins class rings for Turner tokens trophies from the lies of his victims, sometimes weeks later residents will realize he's taken a picture from the photo album. And in every case the photo he removes is of a woman or a girl. There are other unusual features like the long periods of time he spends in the home or the fact that he leaves behind Bert matches and half. Eaten food moves women's underwear around stacks it on the beds. He's unusually careful about the way he operates to he goes to great lengths to make escape from the targeted house easy. A moment's notice and to prevent himself from being surprised blocked the front edge any way into the house in the front who block? It. He opened multi scape wrath out back. He turned off anything that would make noise. And he's prolific retort. Bird birds del most for a couple of at first he strikes, only when people are away, but in nineteen Seventy-three that changes, he begins, creeping into homes while the resident sleep. It's what cops call a hot prowl and he's now a full fledged cab, burglar, a fairly rare in dangerous sort of thief cat. Burglars are not so interested. In what they spiel as the risk, they take their drawn by the sexual thrill. The danger of being caught. Prowling probably supposedly himself and the burglaries these textbook the sexual motive of these crimes becomes more. Obvious is the break ins. Go on one woman, opens her eyes and sees him standing at her dresser, another woman wakes up, when she feels him touching her breast and lots of women report hearing, a wrap that the window looking out and seeing a man naked from the waist down. They say his face has an empty expression. But sometimes he smirking, there are Nuff these crimes that cops give him a nickname, the Canova cat burglar. But he's also something else, something that's all too common in the nineteen seventies, a peeping Tom and your aunts, catching, the peeping Tom. All their slim he'd be surprised. I'm in you're out there. There are a lot of confirms in the nineteen seventies, this kind of crime, isn't exactly a police priority to do some type calls peeping TOMS, weedy waivers indecent. Exposure. But soon peering in windows are hovering over women while they sleep isn't enough. It's September nineteen Seventy-three a twenty eight year old woman is home alone with their toddler when she hears. A knock at the door. She'd Nores it figuring it some salesman or other. And then she hears a noise at the back of the house. She sees a man at the window. He's already removed, the screen depri- the window open, but he takes off around the house when he realizes he's been seeing. She hurries to get her gun and frantically locks the doors and windows and puts the chain on the kitchen door. Next thing she knows he's on the other side of that door trying to break the chain. She's a few feet away, her gun, raised she shouts, if you come any further, I'm going to shoot you. He backs off and she calls police, she thinks Norris is over. But that's when he makes his second push breaking through the kitchen door, he rushes her closing the distance so fast. She can't move any grabs her hands taking control of the gun when police arrive, they find her on the floor the gun fired high and the bullet, Mr. she's alive, but passed out and the prowler is gone. By the summer of nineteen seventy four Richard Shelby is back to spending much of his time sitting in a car. He's been promoted to supervising the night patrol one night, the police radio crackles to life. The dispatcher reports a call and rancher Cordova someone seen a prowler. Normally Shelby would let his deputies handle this kind of small time stuff when he gets to the house, he joins the other officers who responded to the call. They walk the grounds shut the doors. There are no signs of prowler. So the police leave Shelby's barely gonna block when the dispatcher reports neighbors have seen the man again. Shelby is the first back on the scene. The neighbors tell him the man must have been in hiding. They tell him you're both roof the house at the ground running back over the fence into. Just not that shallow stands at the end of the concrete irrigation canal. It runs for miles in either direction behind him as the dark and silent house when they last left. Everything was locked tight, but now grudge doors up this stick. There's a bloody log on the ground far republi half long, maybe that maybe smaller, I mean, it was maybe it was soaked in blood and flesh stuck all over flooding. Gus over thing. He thinks to himself. Oh shit. Here we go. I should be called back. Did. I've been told the guy that's gone thinking back, you'd probably wasn't he's probably sitting in the bushes are under of watching, buddy. I a gun out, of course. Shelby steps into the house. He can see well enough without using flashlight. He doesn't want to be an easy target as he moves from room to room hit the heavy atmosphere. Never that. Death. You'll always know they got the master bedroom. And there was the dog. It's the family pet small poodle. Then thinking today. Not just beaten but disemboweled that dog half crawled beneath the bed is, if seeking a scape will haunt Shelby into the next century Shelby doesn't know it, but it's a sign of what's to come. That was a preview of man in the window to listen to the rest subscribed to man in the window on apple podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening right now.

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The Disappearance of Lisa Spence, Part 2 | 5

Felonious Florida

48:02 min | 2 years ago

The Disappearance of Lisa Spence, Part 2 | 5

"There's a short road that winds its way through a small subdivision in Miami gardens, Florida. It's called two hundred seven lane. It's just west of the traffic clogged Florida's turnpike, but isn't easy to access. Driving west on the right side of the road are the bungalows and ranches of the vista Verde clusters neighborhood. A stone's throw away the Bank of a canal that creeps along for miles from the Everglades to skin bay in Miami. Clusters of trees and shrubs separate the road from the canal. But just before two hundred and seventy lane abruptly ends as if it was never even finished the bushes part for a dirt path just wide enough for car to access. The path hugs the canal west for several hundred feet and into an open field. It's grassy and scattered with debris tires and other trash. On a sunny December after noon, in two thousand nine police officers are in the field watching to dog sniff around. Ah, Belgium Mellon wa- named riot zeroes in on a barrel beneath some trees jewel elaborate or is heading for the same spot. It's a fifty five gallon, cardboard barrel sealed with metal caps on both ends. Right? And jewel found fast and the police know what to do next. They call in the medical examiner. Riot and jure cadaver sniffing dogs. And they may have just found Lee suspense who hasn't been seen for months. You're probably listening to felonious Florida because you're addicted to true crime stories. So am I? So you need to check out the weather channel's newest TV series called storm of suspicion, which airs Sunday nights at eight eastern seven central. It's unlike anything you've seen on the Weather Channel. Storm of suspicion has everything you love about your favorite true crime shows and documentaries. There's deceipt murder, mystery piecing together the clues, but it has a clever twist done in a way. Only the Weather Channel can possibly do a storm. A hurricane, in fact, did hurricane Harvey help solve a murder and how did a rain puddle ultimately lead to a murder conviction? Watch to see how weather can help suspects stay under the radar and also lead their downfalls. Dr Elizabeth Austin, a world renowned forensic meteorologist will have you looking at crimes and a whole new way. She shows you how investigators can use mother nature to solve some of the most difficult cases don't miss storm of suspicion every Sunday night through November eighth at eighty stern, seven cents. Only on the Weather Channel. From the south Florida sunset, Nolan association with one very, this is phony in Florida. The podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host advocate Austin along with reporter, one or tak-, and this is the conclusion of the disappearance of Lisa Spence. Paul Edwards was in the hot seat just one week after his girlfriend. Lisa's Spence vanished on October seventh, two thousand nine. Lisa, a thirty five year old mother of two had finished up before our nightshift at a quick stop convenience store and headed home. Nobody had seen her since. In the days after she disappeared. Investigators had learned that pollen Lisa's relationship had been rocky and that it sometimes got physical. Paul story was simple. Lisa wasn't happy and wanted to end the relationship. She made it home from work and the two got in an argument. Paul went out for a drive to give her time to think when he returned an hour later lease had packed her things and left, but detective suspected. Paul knew more than he was telling them his story wasn't consistent, and the details weren't adding up. So they questioned him. Just saying what you know yet, the stories changing times that's. Changed, and then there's the fact that is always consistent while digits by working all all. No, I did in a cone sake. You want so bad to talk. I can see it in your eyes. You know, better than us. Utterly legal watch with people are driven by work. At work. Guess if she. Other than. Sitting here. Christians that you come on, it's it's not. I think it is if he's not asking you hard questions is ask you, what did you do a certain loom, which in mice questions. Alright with Paul wasn't budging, even when the detectives pointed out inconsistencies in his story told him they'll need to verify everything. He said. Well. Eventually you could have an intercom of that murder. Murder is exactly what detectives were beginning to suspect. Already just a week into the search for Lisa. There was evidence that she hadn't simply packed up and left. There were drops of blood found in the bathroom of Lee, send Paul small apartment on Venetian street in Mira mar. It was on vanity in the bathroom and on the tiles in the tub and on the door frame. Another drop was found inside a rental car that Paul was using around the time that lease. It was last seen detective. Danny Smith says, there was no way to know if the blood was hers with Lisa missing. There was none of her DNA to compare it to. We had none of her property. We couldn't use a toothbrush. We had no hairbrushes. We had no samples that could possibly possibly have Lisa's DNA on them, but they did have a close comparison, something that could at least tell them if they were on the right track. Lisa had a teenage daughter, sir, lean and her DNA could be analyzed for similarities. If the genetic makeup was close, the blood evidence could be linked to. Lisa Serlin had just turned eighteen and she and her younger brother were living with Lisa's mother on the Caribbean island of Trinidad. But as luck would have it when detect his went looking for a sample of her DNA sir, lean was in the United States visiting family in Philadelphia to that point. We, we contact other members of the family. We contact her daughter who is visiting in Philadelphia. We get detectors in Philadelphia to meet with her and take swabs DNA swabs from the daughter. They do the evaluation of the daughter swabs and they get DNA profile from there. We have to take those results to another doctor who specializes in population genetics. Sir, leans DNA profile was compared to the profile from the blood found in Lisa's bathroom and in the rental car. It's a near perfect match. Whoever the blood belonged to was all, but certainly a relative of sir lean. The probability was ninety nine point nine, nine, nine percent. It had to be Lisa's blood. So were kind of looking at the right track in terms of, we know that we have a family member and we know that she that Serlin has no the family members in the state of Florida. And there was also somebody else's DNA in the samples, an unidentified male had left blood in the bathroom and on a mob. But by itself is didn't prove anything. Maybe there would be more hope for finding Lisa by solving the biggest mystery of the whole case. Lisa's family and friends. It started getting strange text messages from her almost as soon as she went missing her friend, Richard more got when the next day he couldn't remember what it said, but he did. No, it was unusual. It was the first time she had ever texted him. And Lisa's brother Dexter vincit had also been getting messages from her. They were riddled with spelling errors and were confusing, almost nonsensical. Richard and Dexter were convinced that it wasn't Lisa who was sending the texts and detectives working the case didn't think so. Either. Whoever was sending the texts from Lisa's phone was making mistakes. One message to Dexter claim that Lisa was in Jacksonville, but her phone was being read by towers about three hundred miles away near Miami in another taxed. The name of Lisa's daughter was spelled wrong, and that wasn't all detectives examining records, discovered that Lisa's phone was never very far from the phone owned by Paul Edwards. They were often sending signals to cell towers near one another. There could only be one explanation detectives thought it was Paul who was sending the text releases phone, supposedly. Paul, Paul either receiving or sending texts to Lisa looking at it from an investigative point of view. I look and say, he probably has both phones in the car with him and he's just making these tax. But if Paul was doing it, why. Detectives believe they knew the answer. They just needed a way to prove it. So they came up with a plan to turn the tables on Paul Edwards. Just a brainstorming session sitting around saying, I don't know. What do you think shot in the dark for this now? That's not gonna work. How about this now? That's not gonna work. This is brought up. All right. Well, let's see legally for allowed to do it. It was a plan sold bowl than unusual detectives. Didn't even know if it was legal. No one in our unit has ever done it. And I'm believe even some members of the state attorney's office where a little taken aback by it because it was not a common request. The plan was brought to a judge who gave it a green light. There was no guarantee. It would crack the case, but detective needed to try something. It was going to be a complicated operation that requires some technological magic, multiple police agencies and lots of patients. But the premise was simple enough. Detective Smith was going to pretend to be Lisa and Paul was about to hear from his missing girlfriend. Felonious Florida is brought to you by simply safe home security. Simply safe is a fantastic security system providing great protection for your home, but before simply safe home security companies were getting away with a lot. 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They don't have leases phone, but they are going to need it. All they need is a phone. That's when programmed with her number basically a clone. We told me the idea to text Paul from phone that we purchased that would look like it came from Lisa, I completed quarter and I asked for the personal telephone information from Lisa Spence, and we didn't have her phone. So we had to go through the phone company to say, what what's the basically the ID number for her phone give us transfer to this particular phone that we bought. They had permission from a judge and now they had a phone that was programmed with Lisa's number. And then it was a matter of just logistics how we're gonna do this. We're going to call them. Do we send him attached DUI, do surreal, how are we gonna work workers? They decided a text message was the best option, but what would it say and how do they make it sound like a message Lisa would send it had to be genuine upon speaking with her friends and family. They all say she never tax. She if she does, it's very quick. She asked how she speaks normally the person to person and how she speaks on text or phone. And they said that sometimes she'll get were wrong, so it would have to be short and it would need to have a mistake, a grammatical error or a misspelling. He settles on six words and plots out the rest of the operation on Thursday, November fifth, two thousand nine. It's Showtime. It's a massive surveillance operation. Nearly every detective on the Miramar force is involved. The county sheriff's office and the US Marshall service are assisting an airplane circles overhead equipped with infrared sensors and capable of taking images from the sky. They suspect policy at the home of his mother and stepfather just a half mile from the apartment where he lived with Lisa. I knew the car he was driving in. I knew that he was staying with his with his parents. So we set up on his parents house Suming that he was there was a big assumption. So was worried in the sense that we were sitting on the wrong house. He's driving around somewhere and we have no idea where is that? They take a gamble and set up the surveillance on Paul's mother's house. If he's there, they'll be ready to track him. The moment, the Tex-Mex dissent from the Miramar police station detective Smith types it into the clone of Lee suspensive cellphone. Just wait till I got better. It's simple cryptic and contains one error God, instead of get. He pushes send my chromatic when he saw tech, Steve, pretty much freaked out. The trap is set and they watch and they wait. Not knowing what what, what Paul had done to Lisa. I figured one of two things that happened one. He could get his car and drive to where he possibly placed her or to pick up the phone and call me and say, by the way, Lisa is not missing. She's fine. She just called me. Paul didn't call detective Smith. But after several hours they're gamble pays off. Paul finally steps out of the house and into the surveillance operation. He climbs into his mother, silver, Toyota Camry, and drives off for the next six hours. Police will track every move. Paul makes reporter one or take a describes the surveillance operation reading court documents about how the police wanted to follow Paul. It's clear that they're not skipping any step in. They're gonna make sure that they're not gonna lose Paul, and they're talking about having seven, eight up to ten Miramar detectives ready to follow him. And even more than that, they have US marshals sitting in cars ready to follow Paul, and they also reach out to the sheriff's office which has this what they call a fixed wing aircraft, which was high tech, especially going back to two thousand nine. This aircraft can retire altitudes and still record video. Way down on the ground. So you come away knowing that once they see Paul, they're not gonna lose him. So I wish we could say it was. It was like a like a Spielberg type of thing where we just touched something and the map would come up. But it was me with a laptop computer and Google maps up and radio that was essentially, but. We were able to all communicate and follow him. To where he didn't know that he was being followed. Paul's six hours under police surveillance were seemingly random. He drives to several locations stopping and driving again. And he went on maybe a five or six hour ordeal where he drove around to bunch of different cities stopped came back home when to a friend's house drove around some more. And at the same time, we were either surveilling him where we had a real support that was watching him. So we knew exactly where he was going where he stopped as the day turns to night. He's not making it easy for police to keep up. They have no idea whether Paul even received the tax they sent from Lisa's number, but he sure was driving as if he knew he was being followed. And the way that Paul was driving that night was extremely Radic. We believe he was on what's called a heat run, which you believe that you're being followed by the police. So you make a bunch of turns u-turns, go down dead end streets and see if you're being followed. So without the cooperation of all those different agencies, we wouldn't have been able to follow him. As well as we did over dozens of miles and through several cities. Paul leads them from place to place. He goes to Amun Tura near the senior living center where he works as a concierge, but he doesn't stop. He drives past the crowded high end onto our a mall, but doesn't stop there either. He returns to Miramar stops at a friend's house, then goes back home. Then he's on the move again driving to another friend's house in Miami gardens while he's doing all this, everyone relaying back where he's at and giving information like Molly just drove by some dumpsters. I make a note. Lets check that dumpster. Let's check this open field from Miami gardens. Paul filing drives back to his mother's house and doesn't come back out the surveillance operation ends at exactly midnight. Paul never responded to the tech sent from Lisa's phone. Still Paul's drive on November. Fifth, seemed unusual and detectives began the tedious task of retracing his movements. They searched every place he stopped. It was like looking for a needle in a haystack. But in this case there were a lot of haystacks. They didn't even know what they were looking for. They canvassed empty lots and fields in Ventura and Miramar. The search was turning up nothing. It took them weeks to move all the places Paul stopped before making it to the last. Toward the end of the day, he had gone to the home of a woman he used to work with. She lived in your two hundred. Seventh lane in the visa Verde clusters subdivision and Miami gardens. It was dark when Paul got there, but the aircraft flying overhead was tracking his heat signature into the house. His co worker had asked Paul to fix her stove. He stopped by three or four times a November and early December to work on it. Most of the times if she would call him on the phone or he would just call moments before to say he was coming over. We didn't know anything about the residents or the resident. Ultimately, after the surveillance operation, we went back in our investigation and we stopped at every area that he stopped or drove by anyhow homes that he stopped that we went and we spoke with them and the people that we spoke to very cooperative the. Female in the area in Miami gardens was darkwa positive. She stated that Paul stop by because he was gonna install some sort of an appliance at our at our apartment said it was weird because she had asked him to do this allow ago and just out of the blue. He just happened to stop by. So that was one of the areas that we were concerned with an ultimately the last area that we that we looked, obviously it's about a ten minute drive from Paul's mom's place, and he stayed at the friends house for just nine minutes. Her house has a fenced in backyard that butts in open field next to a canal. She tells police that during one of Paul's visits, he had stood in her yard and asked if it was well lead at night. She told him at was she had floodlights and security cameras. The field however, is dark at night. The sandy grass lot is empty. Save for piles of debris power lines and clusters of trees. If you look to the east hard rock stadium home of the Miami. Dolphins looms over the Bank of the canal, just two miles away to the west. The canal disappears into a flat Florida horizon. Few people would have any reason to visit here. Perhaps occasional workers who show up to survey the land, cut the grass, or remove trash. We try to whole bunch of fields throughout Avin shoora Miramar. Hollywood. It was time now to go to an area over by Miami gardens where where he drove to public data on the map, we noticed that by the canal there's a large area looks desolate. Let's go check it out. It appears the whole surveillance operation will come down to this field. If police leave with nothing, it was a massive wasted effort. The search dogs riot and jewel are sent out into the field just like other dogs had been at locations. Paul stopped on the night of the surveillance and this time there's a little bit different. The dogs picked up on a scent really quick and they almost immediately were able to alert on a fifty five gallon barrel that was pushed up against some trees riot finds it first, but jewel isn't far behind. These dogs are trained to signal or alert if they find a scientific dead body, given their reactions to the barrel. Police are certain, that's what they found. So it's basically like a coded cardboard, but it has metal rings on the ends where you can actually make make the the barrel. Airtight while looked like it had been outdoors for while it was still intact. A group of workers loads the unopened barrel into the back of a white truck and drives to the medical examiner's office there. It's carefully cracked open. The gruesome discovery inside officially turns. The disappearance of Lisa Spence into a murder investigation. Hi, this is Sean pits from the flowness Florida team. You spend a third of your life in your sheets. Are you getting the best possible? I know I am because I sleep and she's from Brooklyn in dot com. I bought my Brooklyn in luck sheet bundle. Over a year ago in the sheets are still just as soft and luxurious. 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I think it's safe to say that thirty three times stabbing someone is overkill. The first person that you're gonna look at someone who's in relationship with the victim because that's a a. Very intimate type act. And if if a random stranger want someone dead, they normally going to stab them enough times to kill them, not overkill. If this was the work of Paul Edwards, the text message coulda frightened him enough to check the field where the barrel was found and detective Smith believes Paul did just that waiting until the cover of darkness. I don't believe he thought she was still alive. I'm fairly certain of that. I think that him leaving and driving all these areas possibly one to to make sure that he's not being followed until alternately goes to the area where she was dumped in Miami gardens. And Secondly, when he drives by Miami gardens, I imagine he's probably looking for police lights, crime scene, investigators. Fire engine. Something that would show oboe. She's been found and I don't know what to do at this point. That's just my speculation. There was very little doubt that the body found in the barrel was Lee suspense, but the head was missing and the condition of the body made it impossible to lift fingerprints, detectives needed proof. It was Lisa blood and tissue samples were sent to a lab for DNA testing. The condition of the body made, even that a challenge. One big step that took some time actually took the most time is identifying these remains as Lisa because. The fact that the barrel was secured so well was good and bad, good because it preserved everything where were animals weren't able to get to Lisa. It actually preserved her body as it was. The bad thing is because she was in that barrel for so long, and it was close to airtight. The DNA and they're degraded to the point where we were unable to get gain a Sam or I'm sorry, we were unable to get a DNA profile. So it took multiple times of bone marrow and taking some of her femur and taking some long leg muscle. These are all parts of the body that whole DNA the longest. And it took having to go through basically everything that we could to to get an accurate DNA profile. There were also rings found in the barrel. One of them was a toe ring that was still on the body and Lisa liked wearing jewelry. Detectives were traveling to turn it out as part of the investigation to learn more about Paulin, Lisa. So the us the opportunity to show a picture of the touring to Liza's daughter, sir, lean. The ring is unique and surly recognize it immediately. Looked at it and said that that's my mom's to- rang I, I know for fact, that's ours. So that right there was very important with with one being able to identify her and two for core purposes saying we have a victim in this is our victim that was one of many different little things that we're able to use identifier. Back in Florida. The identification gets stronger. The DNA from samples taken from the body in the barrel are compared to the DNA of Lisa's daughter. They're a close match. An expert concludes the body was indeed Lisa's, where will to positively identify the remains found in the barrel as Lisa Spence. Obviously, you can imagine how important that is when it comes to trial, we can't have a trial for homicide if we can identify the victim. So that was very important. Kesse George lives across the street from Paul Edwards and Lisa spent on benishi street. She's lived there for about ten years. She's friendly with Lisa, but barely knows Paul who seems to prefer to keep to himself two days after Lisa was last seen Kesse is heading to church. It's October ninth two thousand nine a. Friday. She notices Paul is driving a new Toyota Highlander SUV it strikes her that he's driving such a nice car and thought Lisa and Paul must be doing well. Kesse doesn't know the highlanders rental. She leaves for church at about six PM and returns at about nine while she's outside talking to another neighbor. She sees Paul's white SUV backed up into a spot in front of their apartment building. It isn't how he usually parks. Then she sees Paul loading large garbage bags into the back based on how Paul was holding the bags, Kesse suspected. They were heavy at the time. She thinks maybe he's taking items down to Miami where the annual care Byan festival called carnival is taking place that weekend. The next time she looks across the St Paul and the SUV are gone. They're back the next morning and this time the scene is even more suspicious. When kessel wakes up Saturday, the son had just come up. She looks through the blinds of her window and sees Paul's SUV's back parked straight in how it usually is. Paul isn't around, but the back door to the SUV's open and kassy's small, white cooler and a bag sitting inside. And there's a container sitting on the ground next to the SUV waiting to be loaded inside. It's the barrel. And somebody else had actually seen the barrel inside pollen leases. Apartment police had learned that Lisa used it to ship items back to our children and family and Trinite at sixteen hundred miles away. A friend. One of the few that Paul allowed inside his apartment had seen it there. According to Lisa's family and friends. It was very common for both. Lisa and Paul to send back goods clothing, maybe some some food products to the family members that are living in Trinidad and the the us that Beryl as basically the conveyance for all those goods. There is a very important witness. We were able to meet with a friend of leases, and this friend is one of the few people that were actually allowed in the resident shared by Paul. And Lisa evidently Paulo is very over protective of his property over protective of Lisa. He didn't want her hanging out with anyone, but there are couple of female friends at least had that were allowed inside the house. This particular female remembers being in the home. Shortly before Lisa went missing and ultimately was killed. And she was inside the residence and remembered seeing a fifty five gallon drum that's described exactly as the one that we've found. This is body. Police are closing in on Paul Edwards by January twenty ten more than two months. After Lisa's disappearance. Paul had hired a lawyer and he would need one. Police suspected that the blood of an unidentified man that was found inside the Venetian straight apartment belong to Paul. They needed proof but hadn't found enough reason to convince a judge to order Paul to contribute a DNA sample for testing. With Lisa's body found they had enough to get the warrant and detectives headed out to swap Paul's mouth. On January twenty. First detective Smith knocks on Paul's mother's door. Paul, you're on speakerphone with your. Thank you. I want to. Bilbao easing your body. So they're allowed to take your body Alice war. So they're gonna take it to the police. Quickly. All the call me. Okay. When the results of the DNA tests come back, it's looking bad for Paul Edwards. His blood matched the blood found in the bathroom, and it matched blood on the mock detectives believed. It was used to clean up the murder scene. The dots had been connected. Police and prosecutors believed Paul attacks Lisa in their apartment likely with a knife. She had many defensively on our on our hands, which obviously lens to the fact that we know it's very common for someone who commits stabbing to actually get cuts on their on their own hands. The fact that he had cuts on his hands when we first spoke with him. Another red flag. Interviewing his co workers and friends. They say they met with Paul. They asked him, wise hands were bleeding or not bleeding, but why he had cuts on his hands. And he said, I was just cutting some chicken and accidentally cut myself. Those are things that you don't cut yourself on the hands multiple times because you're cutting chicken. He stabbed her more than thirty times mostly in her chest stomach arms. He removed her head and stuffed her body into the barrel. Lisa kept in the apartment for shipping the reason that he did it. I don't know. He's a pretty decent sized guy. He's strong and I would venture to say that looking at the injuries of Lisa's neck that a lot of what went towards the decapitation was probably strong stab wounds, and it just kind of went from there. He loaded the barrel into his rental SUV and dumped it in the field next to the canal. Despite extensive searches Lisa's head has never been found. on April fourteenth, twenty ten. Paul Edwards was arrested and charged with killingly suspense. It took more than five years to bring Paul's case to trial and it lasted for a month, but it took the jury just three and a half hours to make its decision. They found him guilty of first degree murder. Paul's lawyers noticed how nice he was to them. His demeanor didn't match the violent way. Lisa was killed. Joseph Carey and James represented him. I remember when I first met Paul immediately liked him because he reminded me so much of my father. My father just passed may be. This is July. My father had passed may be seven months before we tried this case in July of twenty fifteen. And so Paul reminded me so much of my dad, very straight laced, very respectful. Think the entire time that I represented him, he only ever called me miss James, never by my first name because he just felt like I had, I had a role in his life. I was his attorney and I deserve the respect of the last name with the title of which is something like that would have done. Father was in the Jamaican Constabulary force. So they had a lot of similarities. He's very straight laced, very clean cut. He was also really spiritual guy. You could always find Paul quoting scripture or wanting to discuss some bible verse that he had read, which was something that I liked. 'cause I'm woman the faith. And so it was it was it media report with Paul because of that? The two things just didn't jibe to me the way Paul presents and his demeanor that was unwavering the entire time that I interacted with him and then the gruesome rage filled nature of this killing, adjust the. They didn't seem to go together. But the jury didn't agree Terry doll as a sixty eight year old, hairdresser, grandmother of six who moved from Detroit to Florida in nineteen seventy six. She was on the jury. Terry was convinced by all of the heirs Paul had made after the murder, leaving behind blood in the apartment and on the v. spelling sir, leans name wrong. The barrel leaving his phone close to Lisa's when he was texting. And she believed Paul's background as a prison guard, gave him knowledge for how to cover his tracks. So how he could Mara her like that and then cut her head off. And I, I think he cut her head off. So the harder to identify her body if it was over. He knew he, he do how to try to get away with murder. So I'm glad you know, I'm glad he's in jail, and he deserves to be in jail to me, he was guilty without a reasonable doubt. The defense also argued that police targeted Paul early in the investigation and never looked into other possible suspects like the man Lisa was seeing behind Paul's back at the time of her disappearance. Shuki Lopez Sakina told police that he and Lisa were planning to run away together. They had even talked about getting married and he was one of the last people to have seen lease alive. Paul's lawyers told jurors that chicane could be the one responsible for leases death, so they weren't happy when they learned that chicane was missing and they were even more upset when they learned in the middle of the trial that he was dead. In fact, Shaquille Lopez had been murdered. It was less than two years before Paul's trial. Chicane was shopping at a store in Miami gardens. The same city where leases body was found as he and a friend left the store and headed toward their car. A man walked up to them pulled a gun and shot keen in the neck, killing him. There were no surveillance cameras around. Chicanes friend told police, he recognized the gunman, but the man he identified had strong alibi and the charges were dropped. Phyllis. Cook also represented Paul Edwards. She says, chicanes murder, came as a surprise, the defense team and the fact could have strengthened Paul's defense. We did not know he was dead. We did not know he was Mark. It just seems a little bit suspicious to us that that particular case was not mentioned before. Certainly. I believe the jury should have known that he was not just that he was deceased as they believe, but that he actually murdered. The murder of Shaquille Lopez remains unsolved today. Paul's lawyers argued that the police focused on Paul and Dolittle to checkout chicane story. Detective. Danny Smith says that's not true. They verified chicanes alibi and he was quickly ruled out. We met with him and we were able to get his alibi for the time that we believe that she went missing and checked his cellphone records in compares into the cell phone records that we had from Paul and Lisa and they didn't match. Ultimately, what brought down Paul Edwards was the same thing. He used a cover up, vicious crime, a cell phone, and it's chilling tax from the dead. Paul's lawyers say there's no way to know for sure whether Paul ever saw the taxed but police suspect Paul was so terrified. He led them straight to Lisa's body and the evidence fell into place from there. The resources and commitment police put into cracking the case was a surprise to Lisa's mother, Margaret Spence. Lisa was far from her home in Trinidad, and Margaret doubted police in America put much effort into solving her murder. In my opinion, I of league. Seeing the Trinidadian. But then he missed short time, you know, but then it's our food, the four years. And you know, I thought nothing a modem in island needs the fries and stone them with these detectives was so popular with with us my father. And I in me. Me that just giving the none of that me the family. But of course, there. On magnum and I didn't see how. You know, you got those. I appreciate it. Like on. Much memory. I think about their minute writing. All right. Again, beating all come, none. Cray attack. I think that's still still. Paul Edwards was sentenced to life in prison for killingly suspense. 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"There's a woman standing at a podium in a Florida courtroom across from the man who has haunted her thoughts for years. The left side of Camille Hamilton's face still shows the signs of our bullet entered near her cheek during a two thousand nine home invasion. Her eyesight and hearing will never be normal. Camille had barely survived the shooting, but others had not. Her teenage daughter died. So did her friend. And so did her friends teenage son. Now she's facing Kevin. Pratt, the man accused of the vicious attack. For nearly six years. This is the day. Camille has waited for. But it isn't going as planned. Instead of being sentenced to death, Kevin accepts an incredible offer ten years in prison. If he pleads guilty to the crimes. It's a stunning punishment for a man charged with murdering three people in cold blood. Camille is given one last chance to speak. She shouts at him demanding an apology. Team. Making. Kevin sitting in his striped jail. Uniform has a few words of his own for Camille. I didn't do it ma'am. Moments later, he's taken away to prison. And that's how the story ends with no Justice for anybody. How did it arrive? It's a perplexing conclusion. To find out our investigative reporter would have to go back to where it started to that August two thousand nine day when police found Camille on the front porch of Florida home hours after she had been shot. You're probably listening to felonious Florida because you're addicted to true crime stories. So am I? So you need to check out the weather channel's newest TV series called storm of suspicion. When it premieres on Sunday, October, seventh, it's unlike anything you've seen on the Weather Channel. Storm of suspicion has everything you love about your favorite true crime shows and documentaries. There's deceipt murder, mystery piecing together the clues, but it has a clever twist done in a way. Only the Weather Channel can possibly do a storm. A hurricane, in fact, did hurricane Harvey help solve a murder and how did a rain puddle ultimately lead to a murder conviction? Watch to see how weather can help suspects stay under the radar and also lead to their downfalls. Dr Elizabeth Austin, a world renowned for runs meteorologist will have you looking at crimes in a whole new way. She shows you how investigators can use mother nature to solve some of the most difficult cases. Storm of suspicion will be presented with limited commercial interruptions. Don't miss the series premiere on October seventh at eight eastern seven central on the Weather Channel. From the south Florida Sun-Sentinel association with one day. Welcome to season two of Florida's Florida. The podcast that leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host emma-kate Austin along with investigative reporter, Steven hops, and this is part one of the insane murders. The call tonight on one comes in a little before three PM. It's August seventeenth. Two thousand nine. A man on the phone tells the operator. His friend is on another line. She's been shot in the face when he first got the call from Camille Hamilton. He thought she was joking. The tour from Jamaica but had met in the United States couple years earlier through another mutual friend, they clicked and they spoke on the phone often using Jamaican patois, Camille like to shop and their phone conversations often centered around clothes and fashion the night before the nine one one call to its spoken briefly by phone. But there was a lot of noise in the background and Camille was busy. The frontal Camille to call him back when she was free. But she never did until Monday afternoon. Now holding a cell phone with Camille call in one hand and a second phone with the nine one one call in the other. The man urgently tries to relay information between the calls. Camille can barely speak. She sounds a week and is incoherent, and there are long pauses between her responses. My colleague, investigative reporter, Steven Hobbes describes the call his name one. So frustrating. So listen to because there's a woman who's been shot on the face and just how difficult it is for officers get the information. They need to find her. What is your emergency now, Camille, there's no rec- is she doesn't know the address of the home where she's at, neither does the guy the phone, but he knows that Camille is at her friend's house. Her name is faith guys been there maybe once or twice before, and he knows it's in the city of Miramar. Listen informed. A friend of mine on the phone. She sees incoherent implant, your friend. See, you know. What is the emergency. Okay. What what is going on with her. She was what. She was shot in the face. Okay. Okay. How did you don't know the address that I'll do, you know the side streets. So we jumps on Google maps scanning through areas in the city that he remembers, and somehow he's able to find the right home. And did that information to nine one one operators. Fear of clear. Avenue. Miramar of new and they wanna take NC the street and it's like Claremont take instill fear month for your month, see much of a new. A, I able. I am an t. I r. m.. A f- I've been Frank Fairmont avenue. Yeah. What's the other side street and seeing the street and see now. Encino. They will be. It'll be like. The other flow parts in the yard. That's the most. I can tell you at this point, it's about five minutes in, here's what we have so far and see no street in Miramar off of Fairmont avenue, not far north of the Miami Dade County line. It's the fifth house on the left. There's flowerpots, but it doesn't do much to reduce the confusion of the call. He tells them more. There's a big white car parked in the driveway, maybe mercury. And he says, there should be three other people in the house. Last night and MRIs, how come she's calling you now, what what's going on now? Like how. Roy. Gets. Yeah, she doesn't even know who shot her in the face. They will run. Is there any other victims in the house. Listen three, but I've come on this is where they are. Is there. Okay. And these are these are family members. What. Friend, a friend, so. Fairmont is less than a mile long, but police officers looking for the house need more information and the minutes just keep ticking by. The caller gives the operator meals name and tries to get Camille to describe where in the house she is. He tells Camille to stay calm. Help is coming. Then Nicole gets even more complicated. One officer wants to call the man directly. So he hangs out with the nine one one operator soon after that, another dispatcher calls back and the man asked for the operator who took the original call. Hi, this is about yourself three cheese woman call from this number. It seems upper it is. How long ago did you speak to that person? Okay. What was it about there? Is it end in minima. Okay. He's gonna ready? How can I help you, sir? Now it's more than fifteen minutes. They're callers. Frustration is growing as the operator tries to get more information this time about where he's calling from by now. He's just exasperated my friend is on the phone dying. He says, when you're asking questions about me. What the. One second. Miller no-go to see. Really. So you're in Lauderdale right? What is your address. Leading, you never met him. You know. Into question. She's uninformed. I in my address. Address so we can get it for their rations, sir. Hello. Hello. I'm gonna on the Eliza. Thank you. Drive down there yourself. Still searching for the right house and operator tries a different approach. Chicago text t mobile to see if they can trace Camille cell phone. But even though it's a desperate emergency, she hits a frustrating way. We're all used to. Hi, you've reached the law enforcement relations group or team mobile in order to focus upper arm reducing subpoena turn around time. We will answer general category calls between eleven AM. We had a female that called her friend. She said that she was rob last night, the hot shot in the face. She's on able to move. He can't remember her address. It's in the city of Miramar. We know so far and we have units all over the city looking for this house or get an address from that. Okay. All right. What I'm going to need from you is a, uh. Is a letter before I can release any information because the individuals not directly requesting assistance from nine one one. Just when it seems like operators have no other options. One of them actually gets Camille on the phone more than thirty minutes after friend I called. Hello. This is back shares office. You were shot in the face right. Yes. On the phone. Okay. Where are you. Commute can barely speak, and as you can hear it, it's hard times understand or the operator tries to get her to describe or she is then to go outside the front door were officers might be able to see her. Can you walk at all. Huh. Can you maybe see anything that you could tell us that address. You're trying. Okay. Where we have the paramedic sleet and free to or trying to find you. Okay. Are you walking right now? No. Okay. Where are you in the house? Don't steer those. You're downstairs right now. Yes. Camille somehow mixer way out the front door in the nine one one call you can hear officers in the background. He's there, try to yell to him. Okay. Peewit you. With you. Yep. Out here. Mccourty men's there with Camille. Hamilton finally found. Surgeon, David Wilson is one of two Miramar officers to approach the home on Encino street during the call. He's joined by another sergeant, Jeffrey Armenia nto, who's a swat team officer with the department army Anta was on foot looking for clues. Other officers. Wait on nearby Fairmont avenue. Armando thinks he finds the right home, but he's not sure the house is two stories, beige with pink trim. It's quiet with no signs of trouble. He walks around it and the only unusual thing as screen from back windows on the ground, a goal, Toyota Corolla sits in the driveway to the left of the house. The white mercury sable described on the nine one one call is next to the Toyota parked askew and over the sidewalk. The property backs up to a large pond. Many of the houses in the river on neighborhood do single family homes are packed tightly together along winding streets that often end in dead ends. In two thousand nine Miramar is a fast growing suburb of about one hundred twenty thousand people. It's in the far south Broward County. The city is closer to the Everglades than the beach, and it's marked by water ponds and small lakes alligator. Sightings are common sometimes even in a swimming pool. Miramar is diverse. Black people make up forty, six percent of the population. It's a destination for people from the Caribbean islands, especially Jamaica around eleven percent of people there say they're Jamaican flights from south Florida are under two hours, and that short flight is what brought Camille Hamilton and her daughter from their native Jamaica a little more than two weeks before the attack. It's a typical ninety degree August day under the Florida sun. When sergeant army anto gets the house number on insane, oh street, where Camille should be the doors closed and army. Anto doesn't want to knock. He doesn't know who might answer. So he goes across the street to find a neighbor just as he knocks on the neighbor's door. He looks back and sees Camille at the doorstep. She's wearing a Brown sundress and she's sitting on the ground leaning against the door, her legs out in front of her army unto an Wilson have to act fast, but they have to be cautious to if this is the woman who's been shot, who is the shooter and whereas the shooter. They approached the home protected by bulletproof shield, the order Camille to stand and walk towards them, but they get no response. She needs help on the officers need a plan. Wilson described their next move in a deposition. He gave later. Eventually we can tell the doors open doors open, right? So we, we devise a plan that myself and sort of the end basically bypass or go in the front, the win to the front of the house. Right? Ten sets the front of the house well of, I think it was a believe it was officer Donny and Marie, so I'm not sure right. He looked at my work anytime. Right. Safer location across the street. You say you bypassing you just kind of walk by right, right. Well, as you as, you know, obviously it uses she'll recovering as you walk up, you make sure the young. I mean, there's no other weapon or she never weapon or anything there. I, like I said, we didn't know we were walking into at this point. Two other officers reach Camille and check for a pulse. Dried blood covers a gunshot wound near her left cheekbone. She moans somehow she's alive. They lift her to their shoulders, rush who are cross the street and out of danger she's in and out of consciousness, but manages to give police one bit of alarming news. Her young daughter is still inside. And there are others. What would it look like? If we all listened more, this is Mikhail Austin, listening to audio books motivates us inspires us even brings us closer together. There's no better place to listen than audible because now audible members get even more exclusive fitness programs. Audiobooks audible, originals and more audible has the largest selection of audiobooks on the planet. And now with audible originals this election has gone even more custom with content may just for members every month. Audible members get one credit for any audio book. They choose plus to audible originals from a changing selection that they can't get anywhere else. You can probably guess I loved crime. 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There's a small hallway that leads straight ahead into the kitchen. To the left is the staircase leading up to the second floor to the right is the dining room. There's no movement inside the house, but there are some small signs that there was a disturbance here. There's money scattered on the floor inside the foyer, American Jamaican dollars, a gold color purse hangs personally office-mall table in front of the officers. Three officers stage right there basically door myself as me until begins sweep the house sort of counterclockwise motion. We went off to the right person that back. The the dining room. Okay. He got back down a little bit further into the house, and then me I had went to shield with the with the the three female officers. Right? And that's what he's spotted the projectile laying on the floor, the dining definitely. And being the tactical swat guy that he is, he made the determination plus a lack toback out of the house and reading for the situation as well. They find a bullet on the floor and the officers look up and see a hole in the ceiling. It could have been shot through the floor upstairs. The shooter may still be here somewhere in the house. Wilson army until and the other officers regroup outside of the home and call for the swat team. But if there are other victims in the house time is not on their side, somebody may need help. When they go back in, there are more problem. Signs, an officer notices a drop of blood by the door, and there's a foul odor. As Wilson and another officer watched the staircase army anto in to swat officers move through the first floor. Again, clearing room by room. Every corner is checked. They toss around maroon colored cushions, piled on couches in front of the television looking for a possible hiding gunman. But the first floor is empty. Armenta leads the officers up the stairs. It's six carpeted steps up. Then the staircase turns right and continues another night steps at the top of the stairs. They look into the first door on the left. It's the master bedroom and it's here police make the grisly discovery. Three bodies lay on the floor. Their feet are bound with duct tape to have their hands, bound and blood is everywhere on the door and the comforter on the nearby bed. Armenta also in a deposition describes what he saw. Lane under stomachs duct tape, the ankles, the risk of like obvious trauma to the head. There's blood underground leaders casings there looked like there were cases yellowcard your show. Now we're all like wind up in the bedroom or they were to the way they were laying or from what I remember and it'd be accurate. I'd like to look at some pictures when I remember my head, I believe there are two victims you walked in the bedroom door to victims right on the ground. I possibly their heads facing me that and then there was another victim, I believe, who's a young man of fifteen? I think he was kinda partially father This is sore and two teenagers, Davey and Bishop, and the key to Hamilton had been shot in their heads and we're dead. the scene in the house is horrifying, and the person who killed faith Davey and the escaped probably many hours ago. Police have a lot of time to make up. Miramar detective, Steve Toyota is in his office when he gets a call from his supervisor, he's told a woman had been shot and was on her way to memorial regional hospital in nearby Hollywood Florida. He doesn't know her condition or if she'll survive. It's not the first case for the forty year old detective. He'd been with the department since nineteen ninety three and a homicide investigator. Since two thousand four. He averages about ten cases a year, and he's a respected investigator before homicides. He worked as a narcotics officer and was named the city's co officer of the year and part for reducing drug trafficking in the city. Shootings are routine. But as he drives to the hospital, this case is about to become one of Toyota's biggest. Before he arrives, he gets another call. His shooting investigation is now a triple murder case. When he first sees Camille Hamilton, it doesn't look good. Toyota knows he doesn't have much time to act. He's had victims rushed off to surgery and never come back. He described those first moments in deposition and literally trying to poke my head is amongst the medical staff trying to get whatever information I can because. I can tell you my experience sometimes when the victims taken to surgery and they good ICU. And if if they don't come out. I don't have. We'd never have a chance to ask. His initial conversation with Camille was recorded. The audio quality is very poor and Camille voices week. She's barely able to respond, but in the recording, the detective can be heard, repeating what he thinks she says and pressing her for whatever information he can get a doctor at her bedside is heard. I. To what. Money, he wants money. Okay. He wants money for what. Wants money for what to try. One more time. Did he just wants money? He didn't say why. Do you know him? Who knows him? Who's he acquaintance? Friend? Why would he ended up at your house. Outside. I'm not understanding you, Camille. You gotta speak. Okay. Right. What. Fun. Okay. Hang on. You've outside taking some stuff from the car? Ten side credit. Okay. Well. One more time about goodness. I'm detective. Toyota wasn't getting much at one point. He waits she's taken away by medical staff when she comes back, Camille is now in the intensive care unit detective, Toyota questions for more Camille. Realize toilet again. Okay, I need you. I need more questions of very important. I don't wanna buddy too much, but if we can get tired away and get some rest. Okay. Camille was still weak and hard to hear on the recording. Here's reporter. Steven Hobbs, explaining what detective, Toyota learn from Camille at the hospital. Camille told detective, Toyota that should driven south from West Palm Beach. That's about fifty miles away from Miramar. She's gotten there the night before and she was unloading things from riccar when a man with a gun approached her, he was asking her for money. He forced her inside the home, and his face was always partly covered. He was black, had an American accent, but she didn't recognize his voice. She was with her daughter, NICKY, her friend, faith, and faith, son, David. But she didn't really know what happened to them. Does details where star for the detective, but there were still a lot of questions. Toyota asks Camille a few more questions that could help detectives. Even the tiniest bit of evidence could crack the case. Was he wearing gloves? She doesn't remember the detective asks again less than an hour later this time she says, yes, he was had he touched her. Camille says he slapped her. Did he touch anything else? Yes, he held her purse. It's black and it's in the house. A Miramar crime. Scene technician comes to the hospital using cotton swab and water. She rubs Camille fingernails for DNA. Camille is wearing a neck brace and using an oxygen mask. Her arms and legs are bruised. She has scrapes and blood on her knees, her clothes and jewelry are taken and stored as evidence by five fifteen that evening less than two hours. After Camille was found by the police on the porch of the Miramar home detective, Toyota finishes his last interview with her that day. It's his turn to head to the scene. Back on Sinoe street, yellow police tape stretches around the property, which is now a major crime scene detectives from the sheriff's office arrived to help evidence cones cover items in front of the home, a light Florida summer rain quickly comes and goes, officers are spreading out in the neighborhood, knocking on doors, looking for witnesses and questioning people who are watching the scene from the street. They're giving differing information. One neighbor says that he was ninety nine percent sure that the white mercury sable was not parked in the driveway at seven AM that morning. Another says she had seen it there around six AM. Others weren't giving officers much to go on. No one had heard gunshots and no one had seen anyone flee the scene. The first hours of the investigation aren't turning up much, but there was at least one thing to go on earlier that morning possibly around the time of the murders police officers on patrol had a chance encounter with a man who could be connected. They just had to find him, hey, guys, this is Kelly from the flowness Florida team. Have you tried blue apron that meal delivery service will if not, this is a great time to do it. Blue apron delivers fresh pre proportion ingredients and step by step recipes right to your door. 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Slash Florida, blue apron, a better way to cook. Around two fifteen AM on the day. Camille. Hamilton was found more than twelve hours before her call for help to Miramar officers are on patrol. Just west of Encino street. They spot a man walking the officers, make a u-turn and drive towards him. He's a black man wearing a great t shirt black shorts and black sneakers. As the two officers were turning the man sprints away. He crosses the road climbs over a metal railing and dashes through the bushes. He's heading toward an area that leads to a small lake. The officers call for backup and set out on foot with flashlights searching for the man. There's no sign of him. They look around the lake, but the only clues they find are Brown leather sandals and black sneakers. The time of that chance meeting could have corresponded with the time the Encino street victims were shot, and it was about a mile from the murder scene. But they couldn't find him. If the man was connected in some way, police would never know. Back at the crime scene officers look for clues outside the home, the Toyota Corolla parked on the west side of the driveway is registered to faith. Bisa sore faith is the owner of the home so that Toyota belongs there. But the white mercury sable parked at an angle and partially over the sidewalk is suspicious. The glove compartment is open and papers piled on the front passenger seat and on the floor. The car isn't registered to anybody who was at the home. So who's is it police trace the sable to a woman who lived fifty miles north in the city of lake worth Miramar detectives head to her home and speak with the owner and her daughter. They tell police that Camille Hamilton was working as a caretaker for the elderly mother. They say Camille had gone home to Jamaica recently, but returned on August first with her daughter and Akita. The elderly woman can't recall exactly what time she had lasting Camille, but she took her scheduled pills at about nine pm the night before. So Camille was there until at least then. The daughter says that Camille had used their car to run local errands, but it wasn't often and she never took it very far. So what was Camille doing with their car? So late at night and fifty miles away. The sable isn't the only car that's raising questions. There's another that is even more mysterious. On insane. Oh, street Roure sheriff's office. Detectives have taken over at the crime scene inside the garage. Detectives are looking at an expensive blue to dorm. Sadi's s. six hundred, but the cars unusual very unusual. In fact, it has double paneled glass windows and the doors are unusually thick. The lead sheriff's detective looks over. The car believes it's armored. But why did faith have an armored car in her garage. He calls in detective Toyota and they alert the bomb squad. The sheriff's detective looks inside but doesn't have it searched and doesn't collect any evidence from it. The car is a mystery and certainly unusual. Something else. Unusual is found this time outside the home on the grass. There are small, plastic Baggies often use for drugs drug sniffing dogs come to the scene searching the outside and the inside of the home. But nothing is found two people interviewed by police say they think the attack might not have been random, but no proof that the victims were targeted was ever found. The armored Mercedes, the plastic Baggies, detective, Toyota would later say he considered the possibility that the murders were drug related, but concluded that the attack was indeed random. Most of the other relevant evidence is believed to be inside the house where detectives are trying to make sense of what went on the night before it's overwhelming. The three bodies are upstairs in the master bedroom, but detectives discover a bullet and two bullet shells and guest bedroom to, and there are signs of a robbery, not far from the bodies purses are found overturned on the bed with their contents scattered a small black safe is set on top of nearby armoire and it looks as if somebody had been trying to open it. It's a complicated confusing. Crime scene and police are videotaping noting and photographing every inch looking for a significant clue. As the search for evidence stretches into days, there are far more questions than answers. The only person who could help piece together as an intensive care with a bullet still in her neck. Who shot Camille Hamilton and killed faith Bissessar Davian and Bishop and the Keita Hamilton. What police haven't yet realized that the key Twi denting suspect is hiding in plain sight. It sitting next to the bodies in the bedroom. Though it will be many months before it reveals its secret. It's a roll of duct tape and it contains what will become the most significant piece of evidence in the entire case. On the next up felonious Florida. The Sinoe murders, Camille Hamilton shares more about the fourteen unexplained hours inside the Encino street home. But our investigation reveals that her story was inconsistent over many interviews. She gave to police. Then after months of dead ends in the investigation police catch a break that holds more promise. They began to zero in on a suspect. Thanks for listening to this episode of colonial Florida. If you're enjoying the podcast, please rate us on apple podcasts and tell your friends about our show is available online at felonious, Florida dot com. 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"Camille Hamilton propped up in her hospital bed scanning through page after page of small mugshots. There are hundreds of them. She's using the photos to help develop a sketch of her attacker. It's been five days since she was found outside the front door of a house on Encino street after she was shot in the face. Inside her teenage daughter, Nikita and two others were dead. She survived. One of the worst homicides the city of Miramar Florida has seen in recent memory. She's a bit groggy and her jaws wired. Shut her memory of that night isn't complete. But with very few leads, police are leaning on Camille as their best chance for a break. They have no suspect, no motives. Commute was a direct witness to the horrifying crime, and they need her to remember. She's Ganz photo after photo, looking for facial features, head shapes anything that will jog her memory of the man who shot her. It takes time, but with the help of an artist from the sheriff's office, Camille comes up with the sketch. He's a black young man. Maybe in his twenties short hair, a thin moustache. His only facial hair. Detectives had their first look at the killer. But in the weeks and months after the attack, Camille descriptions of what happened varied along with details of the attacker. Her memory may be the only key to solving the case. But would it be reliable enough to catch the killer. You're probably listening to colonial Florida because you're addicted a true crime stories. So am I do you need to check out the weather channel's, newest TV series called storm of suspicion. When it premieres on Sunday, October, seventh, it's unlike anything you've seen on the Weather Channel. Storm of suspicion has everything you love about your favorite true crime shows and documentaries. There's deceipt murder, mystery piecing together the clues, but it has a clever twist done in a way. Only the Weather Channel can possibly do a storm. A hurricane fact did hurricane Harvey help solve a murder, and how did a rain puddle ultimately lead to a murder conviction? Watch to see how weather can help suspects stay under the radar and also lead to their downfalls. Dr Elizabeth Austin, a world renowned for enzyme meteorologist will have you looking at crimes and a whole new way. She shows you how investigators can use mother nature to solve some of the most difficult cases. Storm suspicion will be presented with limited commercial interruptions. Don't miss the series premiere on October. For seventh at eight eastern seven central on the Weather Channel. From the south of sunset Nolan association with this felonious Florida. The podcast leads you into the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm your host mccade Austin along with investigative reporter, Steven, hops. This is part two of the NCAA no murders. Makita Hamilton was a few months shy of her sixteenth birthday when she came to the United States with her mom, Camille. It was August first, two thousand nine, two weeks before the brutal attack. Nikki, that's what her mom calls her was a top student at her school in Kingston, Jamaica. She was an avid reader love to swim and ride bikes. Nikki was Camille only child, but they really acted more like sisters. They were inseparable taking photos with each other curling up to watch movies on the lifetime channel and traveling together. Nikki also loved to sing. Luther Vandross was a favourite and Britney Spears. She would pretend to be Britney singing and dancing with her trademark moves. Camille husband at the time. Nikki's dad was a reggae performer. He was busy a lot. So Camille Nikki was spent hours together helping kids at an internet cafe where Camille worked. Camille says Nikki loved working with kids and dreamed of being a pediatrician someday. I know the kids used to sit Twitter me. Nikita received was very smart with computer. So we still nj feeds school. We start the internet cafe teaching out to use the computer and Elton with their schoolwork teat in give them a few times like a few minutes playing a game, and then cut the break and send them back to their schoolwork. She loved indicates. So any fun for me also to be there, the kids, it was a pledge of those the kids in helping them because we have four kids in Jamaica. Some of them do have any money to use the intended to Al sneak, meaning they used the intimidating, you know. I used to love doing that. He multi is a computer. It's fun for me. The kids was been hours playing games at the cafe. Camille would have to drag them off the computers and kick them out so she could close up by nine pm. She wasn't always successful. when she wasn't at the cafe, you might find Camille in the kitchen. She loved to cook. One of her favorites was Jamaican specialty Aki and salt fish. So fishes often fish cod, that's been dried and cured in salt to make it last longer. Camille would boil it slice it at Aki. That's the national fruit of Jamaica, but it's usually use a vegetable. She'd also add onions, peppers, tomatoes, time, and seasoning. Camille would serve the dish with green bananas or roasted breadfruit. That's a fruit with an unusual flavor. When cooked tastes something like freshly baked bread when Camille would visit the United States, she'd help cook the Aki and salt fish at a south Florida Jamaican restaurant run by her aunt. Around two thousand eight. Camille was at a wedding Jamaica. She saw woman sitting by herself and decided to go talk to her and keep her company. Her name was faith business sore, and the two hit it off. Faith was also from Jamaica, but lived in Florida. She was a quiet and hard working woman. She was a nurse in the emergency room at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami. She was on call a lot. After the wedding, Camille and faith became close. They talked on the phone often got together when they could. One of those times was during a trip to New York. It wasn't a happy visit. They were there for a funeral, but it had snowed, and Camille and faith couldn't help writing the mood by playing in the snow, throwing it at each other and laughing. Faith would say, Camille, your fun to be around. You know how to cheer people up. They shop together often for close Camille liked fashion, and she liked giving faith home decorating tips when she was visiting her friend in Florida, put marble in the kitchen. She would suggest change the furniture and the guest room. Faith was forty, nine, ten years older than Camille in August two thousand nine. But despite the age gap, the two had become good friends. Perhaps their friendship was made stronger because they had something significant and common faith also had a teenager, her son Davian was the same age as Camille daughter Nikita. Fifteen-year-old Davey and Bishop was a top student at strand had high school in Fort Lauderdale about seventeen miles from his mom's home in Miramar. He could be goofy kid in many ways, typical teenager, but he was also exceptional. He was kind and thoughtful. He was someone who would share his lunch with another student and one of those around him to thrive. Deviant kept a shelf full of trophies above a desk in his room. Some of them were for music. He played the piano. This was very smart. Any use selectively either? See every time I go to the door. I said, fate worries. Davian ease iden-. You jump out and frighten me, and he's always doing his homework. Any use to flee peon church. I go to church with them one Sunday. Any was clean such a nice kid. Keira. Qadis mom said to be once you know that David get a computer and phone from school and he gave you to before we take you to. But it was like there's ended. You do that. Then he said he sent to community and I said, why did he? He said those kids need ten. I have a computer ready. So smart sweet kid. David and Akita hadn't met yet. But the two teens talked on the phone. Their conversations would sometimes go to schoolwork Davey and helps Nikita with her math. They finally meet in August two thousand nine when Camille comes to Florida and brings Nikita with her, Camille is working as a live in caretaker for an elderly woman who lives in lake worth not far from West Palm Beach, faith once Davey and Akita to spend time together and get to know each other. She invites Nikita to stay at her place. Camille is apprehensive, but finally agrees to let her daughter stay there. It would only be for a few days after all. She just didn't want any kissing. It's a couple of days into Nikki stay on in Sinoe, St., August sixteenth. She wants some different food than what's faiths house. So she calls her mom and asks if she can bring her some snacks pretzels and Doritos, please. Camille finishes up taking care of the elderly woman. She works for making sure she takes her scheduled pills. She borrows the woman's mercury sable as she sometimes does, and then drives the fifty miles south to faiths house with groceries. She pulls into the driveway sometime around eleven pm. She plans to return to lake worth and isn't expecting to be there for long. Nikita Davian come outside to help with the groceries. The first thing I said to Nico there the night, did you case? And she said, mom, tough heat, mom. Knowing the would grow. While all three are outside, a man appears out of nowhere. And he has a gun. He's demanding money and orders them into the home. With the man looks like and what exactly happens in the house over the next fourteen or so hours. 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The first time detective, Toyota was here was minutes after Camille is brought in with a gunshot wound to her face. He was the first detective to interview her after the attack, but she was barely able to speak. That time he wasn't even sure she was going to survive, but she did and detective Toyota's been back to the hospital since by the visit on August twenty. Second, Camille had improved substantially Toyota brought along his partner to video record. The interview. Detective. Hector. Bertrand had been on the Miramar force for about seventeen years. He and Steve Toyota were friends to when they were working together as narcotics detectives. They were honored together as the co officers of the year. They were credited with seizing thirty kilos of cocaine along with more than four hundred pounds of marijuana and other illegal drugs and cameos hospital room detective. Bertrand started the video camera recording and his partner asked Camille to walk through what happened on the night of August sixteenth. Although the interview was recorded, Camille. Jaw was shut, and she's at times hard to understand reporter. Steven Hobbs explains her recollection of the attack. Communes memory about what happened was inconsistent over the many statements achieve detectives. You wouldn't. It's bad for her memory to be perfect in a situation like this. I mean, she went through a traumatic event, what alone? What damage could have been caused by the bullet that hit or. But in this interview in the the nine total recorded interviews that shaved a detective, Toyota, you really see that there are inconsistencies in some of the details that she remembers, and Toyota was concerned about some of those inconsistencies. So they did what was called a cognitive interview, or she sat down with a law enforcement officer and it wasn't the rapid fire responses that she was having to get it or hospital bed. She was able to sit and relax and try to tell what she remembered in recalled from those incidents. And it's not her fault that she was not able to remember it every particular detail of what was going on. But it was really important for the detectives to try to get her to remember as much as they can. It's not always clear from all statements. How many details that she actually remembers on her own or how many of the details were built up over the many interviews that you gave with. Detective. Through all of the interviews with Camille detective, Toyota put together bits and pieces of what happened at the NCAA street home that night. The detective would later summarise descriptions in an arrest, affidavit. It went like this. After Camille and the kids unload the car. She gets ready to leave saying goodbye to David Nikita the driveway. Then a man with a gun comes up to her from behind he demands money and orders the three into the home. While inside the man again asks for money, Camille gives him some around eighty bucks. The man then forces them upstairs. That's where faith is in the master bedroom. He directs them inside her room orders, faith to bind Davian Nikita, and Camille hands and feet with duct tape. Then the man tapes up faith and somehow the gun ends up on the floor. Camille makes a move. She crawls over and picks up the gun, then crawls away into the nearby guest bedroom. In their Camille fires, two shots. It doesn't appear either hit the man and he's able to get the gun back from her. He drags her into the hallway and threatens to sexually assault, her Camille resists, and he shoots her. About fourteen hours later, she wakes up her face is caked and dried blood, and she goes into an upstairs bathroom and tries to wash it out of her eyes. She's able to get her cell phone. She dials on a man picks up. It was a friend. She talked to the night before. She's been shot. She tells her friend. He's the one who calls nine one one. Mine on his phone. He sees in clan. She was one in the face. In this thing, she was shot in the face. It seems clear from detective, Toyota summary what happened in the house that night. But he left out moments where she contradicted herself. Including the order she and the others were taped up the sexual assault threat, the amount of money the man took and her movements after she woke up. Our investigation of the many interviews and depositions Camille would give after the shooting shows that her recollections were not as clear as he made them seem that includes description of the attacker. I should necessarily said that she didn't really get a good will get the man. Then she said he might have had a mask or something partially covering his face, maybe t shirt or the color of shirt. And at some point at had fallen off. But then waiter in that cognitive interview that you gave. She said that the best work that she got at the the attacker was outside in the driveway. Obviously if it was dark and we don't really know that what the lighting was like. So there was real questions about how much of his face that she actually remembered seeing. And then there were times shoe said that he was maybe wearing a hat or something covering his head. Another key detail for detectives, whether or not the man was wearing gloves. So gloves were important because if if the perpetrator wasn't wearing gloves, maybe DNA was left on the scene. So initially. The first day in the hospital. She said she didn't remember the man wearing gloves. Then later that day at another interview, she said he was wearing gloves. And then within the next few weeks, Chicago about the detective and said, detective, Toyota and said that he was definitely not wearing gloves. And there were more inconsistencies. The murdered victims had been bound with duct tape in the master bedroom, detective, Toyota asked Camille where the attacker got the duct tape. So the question about the tape was really important for detectives. They couldn't be sure which roll of tape was. There were three found in the master bedroom, but there was one that was found right next to the victims. Sometimes Camille said that the perpetrator took the duct tape out of his pocket. But other times she said she wasn't sure words to the duct tape came from, there's a mysterious part of the crime scene detective, Toyota needed help to solve the victims were found on the floor of the master bedroom. So it seems that's where they had been shot. But in the guest room officers found a bullet to Bulla casings two bullet holes and a strand of used duct tape. How do they get their detective? Toyota didn't have an answer to that question by his interview with Camille on August twenty second. So he brought it up with her. He asked at any point, did you take the gun from him? Camille responded, I think so. I don't know. Toyota said the other day, you told me you got the gun from him and shot at him twice. She would go on to say she did fire the gun in front of eighths bathroom after the man dropped it, but that didn't match evidence at the crime scene where a bullet and used bullet shells were found in the guest bedroom. Later in the interview, the gun came up again. So this time later on in the interview, Camille brings up the gun. Again, she says, did you find out if I fired the gun to do test my hand and the detective response that he wasn't sure he didn't remember them doing any type of testing for any type of gunshot residue or anything. On her hand, detective, Toyota kept asking Camille to recall more details about this unknown piece of the crime scene puzzle, how and where she was able to get the gun. In doing. So he told her details about what investigators found at the crime scene, but what did Camille actually remember? It's not as clear as the affidavit later made it seem, here's a clip from the recording of the hospital room interview with Camille. Again, she's a bit hard to understand. Asking about where you were because they're couple shots were fired. That are in the guest bedroom. Guess. And that's what I wanted to make sure when you shut. Were you face room or were you in another room even at house before I. Out. So. Oh, did you. House, right. Drew base room the bathroom. Okay. And that's why I was asking about you show your face room because there's a couple of gunshots that are in the guest room. That. That that could have taken place there use lowering. If you ever gets that. Okay. So detective tore through a spokeswoman declined my request for an interview, but he testified later that he knew that Camille was inconsistent in the statements that she was giving. One of the things that he said was, he believe Camille was was telling them as much as she knew, but he believed that she was able to see enough of the attack during the incident to get a description of audio. What's like a couple of things that puzzled them about bullet holes that they found in there and how my relate to Camille as they found that it appeared one of the the bullets that was fired in there maybe was fire maybe from the bed in a downward direction. But the second one was that there was also a board fired maybe possibly next to the bed, fired upwards towards the door frame and potentially why that could be significant is from what the detective described is that if Camille was able to get away with the gun. She possibly could have been on the ground beside the bed as the attacker came into the room and maybe tried to fire at him and missed, but fired out the door frame either above him or two side of him a little bit. So potentially there are pieces of evidence in there. That might say that Camille maybe did fire on at the attacker. She also had some cuts on her news that a crime intimation later noted that could have been caused by her maybe scooting into the other room on her knees, took it away with the gun. Inconsistencies are important because it's it's once again, not Camille fault how much she remembers or doesn't remember, but detectives and prosecutors have to rely on her memory as evidence in a court case in a situation where her memory is so important and so crucial. It can really impact a criminal case and how it moves forward. Camille, contradictions will become a significant factor in the case in the years that followed some of Camille memories of her attacker were more consistent. She said, the man smelled stinky and dirty. He had gold teats. She said, but only on the bottom row. He was slim, maybe twenty something. Then there was the facial hair for the police artist's sketch. She said the man had a thin moustache. This would also play a major role in the case. For now detectives had the sketch artists had made with Camille help copies were distributed to police agencies into the public and south Florida tips came in by the dozens, but they led to a series of dead ends. Police in Miami, ran the sketch through facial recognition software. It came up with two possible names. Neither panned out more names came in from others including anonymous tips. Investigators in Miramar scour their own databases searching for men with violent criminal pasts who match Camille description, the county crime lab compared possible suspects to fingerprints taken from the murder scene, but the days became weeks and the weeks became months. There were no breaks after Camille left the hospital. Detective Toyota's spent more time with her one day, showing her photographs and driving her around. He stopped several people hoping something. Anything would trigger her memory. It didn't in November. Toyota showed Camille, thirty nine photographs of different possible suspects. According to the detective's notes, Camille said that one photo resembled her attacker, but she wasn't a hundred percent. Sure that man's fingerprint. Were sent for testing? Nothing. Another month went by in the detective tried again this time he showed Camille more photographs. Again, she identified a man as resembling her attacker. His fingerprints were also tested. No match. the calendar turn to twenty ten and detectives kept working. They went back to the river neighborhood, knocking on more doors, near the murder scene. They chase down tips and got nowhere. The case was at a virtual standstill. DNA tests had been done on several pieces of evidence. No suspects. But nearly a year into the investigation, there was one piece of evidence that was about to change everything. Hey, guys. This is Kelly from the flowness Florida team. Have you tried blue apron that meal delivery service, if not, this is a great time to do it. Blue apron delivers fresh preportion ingredients and step by step recipes right to your door. 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Slash Florida, blue apron, a better way to cook. The murder scene street was bloody and where there's blood. There are possible clues. A window and sliding glass door had red stains on them that caught the eyes of investigators. There were in the back of the house, one of the stains on the windows frame another on the door handle which could have been used by the intruder. The stains were tested to determine if they were actually blood. It's a test involving cotton swab a dropper to have water, some alcohol, an acid base solution and hydrogen peroxide. The swab turn pink. It was blood. The swabs were sent to the crime lab for more testing. But for some reason, the blood had been sitting out in a hot and humid, Florida weather for days before it was collected in may have degraded in the lab was unable to find DNA profile. Blood was found in another unusual spot. It was in the mercury sable that Camille Hamilton borrowed on the night of murders. She had parked it outside the house. When she got there police on the glove, box, opened and papers piled on the passenger seat and on the floor. Camille had no explanation for this. That wasn't how the car usually looked. Near the cars back window was another roll of duct tape. It's the fifth one found at the scene. Three were in the master bedroom plus one in the garage. The role in the car was collected as evidence along with the others. But something even more interesting was discovered inside the car. Tissues with reddish stains were found on the floor in front of the passenger seat. The stains look like blood. This time a sample came back with the name. But that too became a dead end. The blood belonged Camille daughter Nikita one of the victims in the house. Camille said she didn't know how it got there. She didn't remember any blood in the car. Detectives would never get an explanation for how akitas blood ended up there. Eight months have passed since the murders, its April twenty first twenty ten DNA tests on evidence from inside at outside the Encino street home hadn't produced any suspects. They created more questions. Still searching for a lead detectives, Steve, Toyota and Hector. Bertrand tried again with more forensic tests. They focused on the duct tape. And there was a lot of it. All of the murdered victims had been bound around their ankles with it too, had their respond. A strip of tape was found in the guest bedroom. In fact, there were five roles and total found at the scene. One of them was on a table along the east wall of the master bedroom, just a few feet from the victims. The detectives couldn't be sure that was the role that was used to by faith Davey and Nikita. There were two others found in the same room. One on a table across the room and another in nearby are more, but it was the closest role to the bodies. Thin strips had been peeled off the roll unevenly. So one side had more tape left on it than the other. A close look at the role revealed a small reddish stain. It could be blood, but by April twenty ten parts of the tape had already been tested. And no DNA of a possible suspect had been found. Except this time investigators had a new idea to try to get DNA off the roll. It would start with a bottle of liquid. You can buy at a craft store. Undo as a household product that can help remove at he Cives like labels or tape. The idea to use it came from the county crime labs, DNA unit manager, a bit of a hail, Mary stalled investigation. An investigator put undo on cotton swab. He then brushed the swab on the role of duct tape thought to have been used by the killer. If there were cells containing DNA sticking to the tape, the undo might help free them. He swabbed different parts of the role. Now the samples were in the hands of the lab detectives would have to wait to find out if the technique would pay off. DNA testing is a complicated process that takes time. The technology is constantly changing and testing has become more sensitive over the years. It's moved beyond blood and other bodily fluids. Analysts can now use miniscule amounts of DNA like from skin cells to crack cases. The sample from the role of duct tape is put in a small tube. Chemicals are added in the tube is heated. The goal is to break up cells in the sample and released their DNA. Once that's done, the analysts will know if there's any testable DNA. The DNA is copied over and over so that even those tiny amounts evaluated the DNA from the tape is then reviewed and a profile uploaded to a state law enforcement database that includes people, convicted of and arrested for crimes. On July twelve, twenty ten nearly a year after the murders. Detective, Toyota gets the call from the crime lab. And finally catches a break. The DNA on the duct tape return to name. He's a man who has been in prison before black American thin in his early thirties. Similar to what Camille Hamilton described. His name is Kevin Pratt. Nineteen ninety-five Kevin was sentenced to three years in prison for a robbery. Nineteen ninety eight. He got a year in prison for striking officer with the vehicle and fleeing police. He also got charged for carrying a concealed gun during that incident. More recently in two thousand eight. He got arrested for a couple indecent exposure incidents, including one in Jacksonville. In that case, he pleaded no contest. He also had multiple run ins with police across Florida and a few months before the DNA hit had been charged with battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting arrest with violence. Nearly three months after the street murders an officer in the Orlando area stopped Kevin because he fit the description of a man involved in an attempted robbery. An officer collected a DNA sample, even though he wasn't accused in the robbery. It was at least his second sample attitude state's database. And there's more. Two other encounters police had with Kevin Pratt, put him close to the time in place of the murders. The first one happened a little more than a week before and just a couple miles away. An officer saw Kevin panhandling at nearby intersection. He didn't know anything in the report about Kevin's appearance. But later the officer said, he remembered he had a beard. The other report from a police officer in Miami Dade County revealed a Kevin had been stopped just over the county line around four miles from the murder scene. The officer noted in his report that Kevin had short and curly black hair and beard slash goatee that was around eleven fifty PM on August fifteenth. Almost exactly twenty four hours later, Camille Hamilton arrived on NCO street in the mercury sable carrying snacks were her daughter. Detectives had caught a huge break in the murder case. If Kevin Pratt's DNA was on the duck tape, it could mean he was at the murder scene. But DNA evidence can be tricky thing. Sometimes like in this case, the results aren't so simple. The crime lab report said that the sample from the role of duct tape looked like it had DNA from at least three different people. Camille. Hamilton couldn't be ruled out as one of those people. Kevin Pratt, couldn't either his DNA is similar to what was found on the tape. That's why the state database John rated a hit. When DNA from multiple people as found on a piece of evidence, the results get muddied. It's not always clear where the DNA from one person overlaps with another. When that happens, analysts use a probability formula to evaluate the strength of the similarity between the DNA from the evidence and a possible suspect. In this case, the analysts calculated probability the chances that an unrelated person have similar DNA to what was found on the duct. Tape is one in four hundred sixty thousand and that Kevin isn't the only one who has DNA that is similar to what was found on the duct tape. So this four hundred sixty thousand number is not insignificant, but in some cases where DNA from a suspect and a piece of evidence are very similar. That number can be in the billions. The crime labs DNA manager tells detectives Toyota. And Bertrand, the news. It's not a strong enough number to solve the case. Still Toyota hopes he has enough to arrest Kevin. On July thirteenth, twenty ten the day after learning about the results. He meets with prosecutors and present his case. It's Toyota's. First DNA has played such an important role. He's hoping to charge Kevin proud with the shooting of Camille Hamilton and the murders of Nikita Hamilton, faith business, or Davey, and Bishop. Not yet prosecutors. Say. They tell them the same thing. The lab manager had told him the day before. The DNA results are start. They declined to charge Kevin and tell the detective. He's got more work to do. Two weeks later, he's on a plane to Jamaica. On the next episode of felonious Florida. The murders commute Hamilton confronts Kevin Pratt after a lineup of possible suspects and the encounter is explosive. Kevin insists he didn't kill anybody, but when the DNA evidence gets stronger, he faces the death penalty. As the years go on problems at the investigation are uncovered, and suddenly the case against Kevin isn't as strong as once thought. Thanks for listening to this episode of colonial Florida. If you're enjoying the podcast, please rate us on apple podcasts and tell your friends about our show. It's available online, felonious, Florida dot com. Apple podcasts, one dot com or wherever you listen to podcasts, you can go online to see photographs video and read more about the cases were featuring at felonious, Florida dot com and be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. The loneliest Florida's produced by the south Florida sun sentinel and wondering the Encino murders was reported and written by Stephen Hobbs, and I'm your host and sound designer. Mccade Austin, our producers are David shoots and one or tak- editing by Randy were Guskey sound direction by Sean pits with additional recordings by Carleen. Jean, the felonious Florida team includes Arthur, Dana banker, Yourann zoo, Danny Sanchez and Kelly fry. Hi, this is Stephen Hobbs. Local journalism matters support us by joining the Sun-Sentinel south. Florida's leading source of news, information in entertainment, visit Sun-Sentinel dot com. Slash join.

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Introducing Felonious Florida, Season 2

Felonious Florida

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Introducing Felonious Florida, Season 2

"What is your emergency listening? I'm on the phone. What. There's a friend of mine on the phone. He sees incoherent. She was one in the face. She was shot in the face. That nine one one call ended fourteen hours tear for Camille Hamilton. The night before in a suburban Florida home, an intruder shot, Camille and three others in their heads hours after the attacker fled, Camille wakes up bloodied and with a bullet still inside of her three others, including Camille, teenage daughter are dead for months. Police are stumped. They investigate the Baril attack. Then a series of breaks lead them to a homeless man in Kevin Pratt. But by the time, Kevin is sent to prison questions, remain about his guilt and whether they're still killer on the loose. On Tober. Second felonious Florida returns with three new cases from the dark side of the sunshine state. I'm Kate Austin, this season, the south Florida sun sentinel and wondering we'll take you through some of the darkest corners. We've explored yet. In two thousand nine thirty five year old. Lisa Spence leaves a late night work shift and is never seen again until Lisa's boyfriend receives a mysterious text from her attacks. That's Dunn's everybody except the police. They newly it was going to send it. In fact, they knew exactly what it was going to say. This is brought up. All right. Well, let's see legally for allowed to do it. No one in our unit has ever done it. And perhaps our most shocking Florida's story yet when a clown shows up on Marlene warns doorstep nearly two decades ago, the thrill of a delivery of balloons and flowers turns into horror, the search for a killer with a red wig, red bulb, nose, and white painted face leads police into the depth of Florida's seating us. There's drug smuggling, loansharking, chop shops fraud, prostitution police who were trying to unmask. The clown were encountering at all and more yet for eighteen years. The trail of the killer clown vanished until now subscribe to colonial Florida on apple podcasts now, and get ready for new episodes on October. Second.

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