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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

Blocked and Reported

04:39 min | 5 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

"Trans people on twitter. The stakes are higher and getting ousted for the community is worse than you experience version of that because you were like in with like some radical queers and they really did cut you out of their lives in a way i never to deal with just because i had more normally france right about what you said in the beginning there. I think that obviously the right has like weaponising this term and is using it in some cases to sort of make excuses or or or or sort of distract people from from like genuine accusations of genuine wrongdoing. That's for sure happening But i think that the reason that the right has keyed on on cancel culture is because they have correctly diagnosed at that. It's a problem on the left and that left is care about it in a way that wingers might not even care about themselves when it's done in their own communities. I'm not actually sure. That's true or speculating. But the reason they've done like they're onto something. It is a real problem. The issue is that when marco rubio talks about it or matt gaetz talks about it. Whoever or tucker carlson constantly talks about it it makes it difficult for people like us who are coming at this not not because we wanted to destroy the left but because we're worried about the left and we want to improve. The left makes us look bad. So i wish they would shut the fuck up about it and of course they won't but i wish they would. Yeah and i mean a lot of the right wing. Figures that that rail against this are hypocrites because they participated in gleefully when it suits them. But yeah again. It's just like sort of this idea that if you accept that cancel culture is real. You're giving fuel to the right. I i completely disagree with that. But again i mostly what she's saying. She sounds like she knows what she's talking about. Jesse so i want to play one more clip for you but before that a little bit of background So after this march twenty six tweet went viral. Lindsay ellis was trending on twitter for this anti-asian apparently anti-asian tweet So people do the things that they always do. Which is they went back in her twitter history and her youtube history and they dredged up everything that she has been accused of a like all various problematic instances and so she goes in the video and she addresses all of them one by one not actually know she says it's not comprehensive so not all of them some things she does genuinely apologize for like at one point mara wilson Child former child star..

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

Blocked and Reported

03:23 min | 5 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

"And i had a similar experience myself. I'm sure you did as well when you go through it yourself and it opens your eyes in in some ways that can stick around and in some ways also. It's still hard to not become part of the problem because it's fun to be part of pylons okay moving on one of the other things about this video so there is a lot that i liked about this video a lot. That if i didn't know anything about lindsay ellis. I would think like this is someone i would probably get along with. She does do this thing. However where she like criticizes identity politics and she acknowledges that a lot of The tension that we're seeing online comes comes from this sort of hierarchy where you can only say certain things you can only be involved in the conversation if you if you if you adhere to some certain identity or in group and then everybody else can be just sort of dismissed. And she's critical of that while also at same time constantly reminding people that marginalized identities have it harder than anybody else and she also sort of like she's describing a phenomenon that i think the rest of us were described as cancel culture but she sort of refuses to apply that label to it. So i want you to listen to the next clip. We one up a friend of mine named the beast the name for this fear that we all live under but don't acknowledge and over the last few years i've had so many of my colleagues all of them. Women people of color transpeople queer people or some combination of the above voice to me the constant anxiety that they live with about. Maybe saying something wrong that will get them on the bad side of their own communities. Every thought is a hostage situation. Is this the tweet. That's going to sink me. So what do we call it. What is the name for this unspoken unacknowledged culture of fear. Where we all know that one misstep can ruin our lives this social media culture repair -ticipant in the public shaming one day and become chained to the pillory. The next we can't even talk about it because the beast does not have a name if we admit that this is a problem than the right. We'll just take it and run with it and use it to increase their own power. Same as they did with cancel same as they did with woke same as they did with fake news if it has a name than it has power so it is a discussion that cannot be had and so we do not have it. We say cancel culture doesn't exist and ignore this disease. Pretended isn't doing real harm. Not just two individuals who are targeted but to the state of discourse in general and especially to individuals in marginalized groups because they are always held to the highest standard of purity and they always have the most to lose. It isn't even about saying something tone different sensitive. A mere difference in opinion might get you fired from your job if enough people raise a stink about it. I think she's like there's some truth there but she's misdiagnosing a couple of things one is the right gets power from the left. Denying cancel culture thing because it's so obviously thing that the right can be like really really you think that professors should be fired about that. Okay that's not the world we want and the right wing is disingenuous about that because they participate in cancel culture too but but she's wrong it doesn't strengthened the right to admit cancel culture. It weakens the right. I also think she's just mouthing platitudes when to assume that this is necessarily worse for some groups that are like nonsense and non white. There gets complicated..

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

Blocked and Reported

03:59 min | 5 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

"So you shame those who can be shamed and if you call one of us bigoted enough times people will start to believe it and then you can feel like you solve racism by spreading lies about a person you have never met and never will and was doing you and your community no harm well done job bash glowed job fuck every single one of you. You do not deserve grace. You do not deserve sympathy. I mean. I think that's a perfect diagnosis. But i've also seen her participate in exactly that dynamic. You and i have both both being on the other end of that because of people close to her and in my case i think she's frustrated because that's exactly right. It's totally true. Everything she said is true. And and that's a very do think that's an important insight that like bench shapiro doesn't give a shit that you're mad at him. The only people you can it. Some of this is just about like the willpower to want to exert influence on others. People can't possibly well. I say that people can't think but people like the idea that they can harm the reputation of lindsay ellis who is a very successful person and they're not. They're just random on twitter so that's like a resistible so i completely agree with her assessment. I'm just frustrated that she wouldn't ever watched video. Does she exhibit any self awareness about her role in this at any point a little bit. We'll get to that in a second. What i find interesting about this is this is her just like palpable. Like you do not deserve grace. You did not deserve with which i actually disagree with. I think that's one of the problems is thinking that people just get swept along. But she's super pissed about this and yes as we will talk about. Shortly there is a bit of lack of self analysis when it comes to this video but otherwise she is saying the same things that we have said over and over and over it. There's a different experience when you're being attacked by your own side by your ideological by people who would actually agree with on ninety percent of the issues. Then there is. When you know. Ben shapiro comes for you.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

Blocked and Reported

04:36 min | 5 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

"Pr woman and she was getting on a plane to go to south africa and she tweeted something like about to get on a plane and go to south africa. Hope i don't get aids just kidding. i'm a white woman and then a writer for for for gawker named sam biddle Blew that up. She only had like two hundred followers. He blew blew that up. She starts turning on twitter. The hash tag has justin landed yet starts stranding when she by the time she lane so by the time she gets on the plane Off the plane. Eleven hours later. She says global trending topics. Someone is there to photograph her. She gets fired from her job. This is all retold and john robinson's wonderful book. So you've been publicly. Shamed sam biddle. He's the guy who started this. He didn't apologize for a long time. He basically said like she deserved it. You know like this was punching option. Pr woman didn't matter that she had only two hundred followers and and like no like actual real power in the world. He didn't you know he said he would do it again. A couple years later during game gate. So actually maybe got the time lying on. Maybe it wasn't twenty fifteen when she was dog piles yankees gave the finger about to say. Was i think around. Twenty fourteen. Two thousand fifteen itself. Okay so strike that from the record. It wasn't twenty fifteen. It was some time before that. Just okay so we've looked it up and this was twenty thirteen twenty fifteen. Let the record show okay. So the next year during gamer gate sam bell tweets the same guy. No this is the guy who blew her up he tweets. Jesse wanna read it. Seattle columbia journalism review article. Two thousand fourteen middle tweeted ultimately hashtag gaber. Gate is reaffirming. What we've known to be true for. Decades nerds should be constantly shamed and degraded into submission. He immediately followed that with bring back bullying so just to be clear. I was making reference to that. When i said that gawker subsequently lost a lot of advertising because game gate types started this outrage campaign suggesting that sam biddle i believe is himself. Very nerdy was literally saying that nerve should be bullied. And so as as lindsay ellis explains and..

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

Blocked and Reported

03:20 min | 5 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Blocked and Reported

"That andrew saying posted a tweet that said andrew yang on april eleventh posted a tweet that said our national pets day celebrating our dog grisly who was raised as a puppy but had to give away because one of our boys became allergic to them. Miss you grizz asked eye dogs free. Hey how does this make you feel first of all first of all. He just lost my vote. If you have to give away a dog or a child clearly you give away. The child was amazing. It was okay. I should acknowledge that at this point like internet backlash stories are usually dumb. Five people mad about anything about it but there was this brief story that had there was backlash to is tweets and one of the responses to them says. It's like quoting him as though he's seattle. Oh a national pets day. I will give an anecdote about how i gave away my dog instead of my kid to take benadryl hundred plus lights national day. How dare you sir turing dog pride. Also so it was i. My kid was on prescription medication. For years i ripped out all the carpeting and locked up all the stuffed animals but we never once considered giving up our cats. I think andrew yang might be a better parent than this person. Did you imagine. Just let your kids effort. You won't you won't give up your dog. I guess not that cute. So in this case now well i want to ask about that but it is interesting that someone immediately Young had so everyone's like fuck you. Could you give away the dog in two thousand and nineteen posted. A photo of himself being reunited with the dog and the dog mobster like the relationship is great. But what would what would it take for you to give up. moose dared. That is such a difficult question. I so my wife is allergic to dogs. Which is why we have moose. Also because he's adorable and the perfect animal but he's ifo allergenic so he's like one of the rare breeds that she can have in the house without having a allergic attacks. If i had to choose between my wife and my dog i would choose my wife because she is a better cook but it would be incredibly difficult. I will also say. And i'm going to give a little bit of what seems like quack. Health health advice right here. My wife is one of these people who's allergic to everything including dogs and dust and everything else. About a year ago she ordered. She got some bitcoin and she ordered hookworm off the internet and she now gets regular infusions of hookworm and her allergies have disappeared a ruler. But she she eats she put in just the hookworm. It comes in an unmarked package. And there's a little vial and a band-aid and she puts it on the band aid. And then she puts the band aid on her arm. she infects yourself with hookworm. Yes and you're a you katie herzog claiming this can cure autism. Okay maybe not autism but allergies and stuff. I i heard about this..

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

03:10 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"You as the reader can identify with it. Yeah it's a tricky line. The balance and i told respect that and i like that she separated sort of the idea. She put into her novel which is important for telling funds story with her ideas about like how the universe actually works. So that's pretty cool. It sounds like he was a little conflicted. Maybe like he thinks the universe might work this way but for the writing of the novel he had to portray a certain way. Yeah this is not like a scientific paper. This is not like her idea for how she thinks. The universe actually is this is like hey here be a cool universe in which could tell a fun story that would be enjoyable to read. You know which is not the kind of constraint. I used to have a my science papers. But you do write science-fiction daniel the burri to write any science fiction stories or feature any more professors from uc irvine uci appearing in culture. Somewhere and. i think it's inspirational that somebody had a cool idea and tried writing and then was successful and was able to break into the industry. I always think it's a healthy community when a novice can break in and do a good enough job that they could actually be successful. That's awesome to hear. And i think that everybody out there who's aspiring to write a science fiction novel is encouraged.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

06:58 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"In a way that you understand what is but at the same time you can't speak it and you can't think it because you don't you know you're a human brain that understands human language so then thinking about the bodies of the aliens. I thought there were a lot of really cool ideas in your story about how species might like move beyond their biological origins. Do you think that's the future of humanity. The do you wanna have a artificial in the future man. that was. that's what i don't like to think about because it's going to be class-based it's gonna be speaking of h. g. wells. You know in the time machine when the time traveller goes into the future he. He's like oh weird to different species and it turns out like one of them is the rich people in rhythm or the underclass. So i think that sort of thing that scares me a little bit about like genetic engineering in trans humanism is like oh good another way we can really put into sharp relief. The class divide. So it's sort of one of those things that i do kinda able but i don't think it's inevitable in a good way right well down here in orange county as the a lot of folks with bo talk spaces and i wonder if i really am. The same species of the people are not hear anybody next question to ask. You is about the political question that you raised earlier but how we would respond in your book. There's a lot of information about the aliens that's kept secret by. The government is a key plot device. News do you think that's happening now. That the government like has secret information about aliens or do you think would happen if aliens did visit no no and no. I can't put like why. I think they couldn't keep this secret. In the book laying lake nelson lake sorta this julian assange character as a little polemic somewhere like halfway through the book where he talks about information sharing between agencies after nine eleven made keeping a secret of this magnitude that involved. This many people essentially impossible. But i think like whenever you see like the stuff that like the pentagon released lately people are like oh. They proved its aliens. It's like no you do understand that unidentified flying object just means it's a flying object that the touchstone identified like they don't know what it is so i very leery of that conspiratorial thinking where it's like you don't use evidence to come to a conclusion you have a conclusion in a news the thing as evidence and ignore anything else to the contrary so i think it's it depends i think like in this case they genuinely don't know what it is of course they kept secret and i think historically that would have been the case but i think if they knew something definite like no you can't keep that a secret that's way too big it would cause a scandal like that because that's what happens in the book is like if they were deliberately keeping this thing a secret for such a long time it would just cause such a massive scandal when it evid oblique gets out so that that's my take on the whole government conspiracy while i hope that's true so then last question i have for you is about sort of constructing your universe when you went out to write this novel how important was it for you that the signs of your universe be sort of the same signs of our universe that everything happens there limitations on faster than light travel cetera be the same as the ones in our universe i the funny thing is like i i wanted to write something that wasn't technically in contradiction to certain series i guess is the thing because as i'm sure you know we haven't figured out how theory of everything yet and there's just like a lot we don't know about like the physics of the universe and so i guess my thing was i actually had a nuclear physicist is a german guy named wolfgang and he lives in frankfurt. He did whenever. I talked to him about this. I was thinking like whenever. I figured out like will. What are the laws of physics of the universe. Do i pick one of the many potential theory of everything series. Or do i just make one up and i asked him. I was like what do you think is the right one. And he's like like quantum loop gravity okay. Well wendy's think ballpark wendy. Think we're gonna nail it down. And he's like i don't know two hundred three hundred years. I'm like cool so it doesn't matter so basically i did. I went with a version of string theory and so i tried to keep everything under the umbrella of things that would be clear radically possible. Let me put it that way if this version of string theory is true which we're probably not going to figure out in our lifetimes anyway. Unfortunately there are tend to the five hundred string theories which could be treated flexibility since. It's aliens which one because they have a different name for it and we don't know so yeah it was something that i thought a lot about but also like i kept intentionally fake. Because you know it's like they wouldn't have the same terms for things that we do so like some things would lineup late. You know. I don't know gravity or light speed or stuff like that but then other things they would have different terminology for it like dimensions or strings or stuff like that. Yeah i guess it was just like i wanted to keep it vague but also like nikolay fear radically possible with idea of telekinesis and stuff like that and you know this basically just being a a sophisticated form of manipulating electromagnetic fields and you know convincing electrons and stuff like that well okay sure you know that would take a lot of energy so they just have a lot of energy so yeah awesome. Well i thought that was really fun. And i was really appreciative. That you sort of pick this set of rules and stuck to them to me. That's critical element in science fiction. Thank you assisted thinking about for a long time appreciate it. Thanks very much for coming on and telling us all about your book. Want you tell our listeners about upcoming projects or things you have coming out soon right well sequel to accede incomes out in october. It is done so it's in production as they call it publisher. And that when i think will probably be more relevant to the discussion of this podcast because it deals a lot more until like the science of the universe and Like actually addresses the fermi paradox. The origin of life and stuff like that again like just is a fictitious. University is like you know it's fun to play with hypotheticals based on like well here is what we know. So how could it play out in other scenarios and so that comes out in october. And i'm still doing long-form stuff on youtube. That just comes out once every couple of months or so Videos are really really long. Get one coming out in a couple of weeks out. Jk rolling again. So yeah great well looking forward to the sequel to your book definitely pick it up and thanks again for joining us and talking to about all these crazy ideas. Thanks a lot for having me and hope you guys have a good rest of your blade all right. That was a pretty cool chad. Love her thoughts about how she had to make aliens alien. But you also want to make them relatable so they.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

08:15 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"As a reader or as an author or culture might feel kind of disconnected from and that's why like invasion fiction is really common and you kind of have like h. g. wells war of the worlds is a really good example of something that is both aware of the destruction that his culture is wreaking anxious about the idea of being invaded. This coming on the heels of the franco prussian war and ripe for one. But i think to me his some people kind of like the sort of military science fiction thing which is like good versus evil. The tension comes from. How do we defeat the bad invading thing. I just find narratives that are about trying to understand something strange in foreign more interesting list as a reader. I think you know. I think those those kind of narratives are more satisfying. I think that's why people really liked to rival. The entire book is not just about figuring out their language. But it's also figuring out what they're deal is like what are they want and those kinds of narratives to mir just a lot more interesting than the you know invasion narratives but i enjoy invasion narratives to like i. I don't know if you follow me on twitter or my youtube channel. But like i tweet about independence day constantly has independence day. One of my favorite movies. So yes i. I love certain invasion narratives. I just don't think i'd ever right one or at least not a conventional one in the book. It seems like you're a little bit ambivalent about whether communication is something to aspire to like. We could understand these aliens or whether it just brings on danger and so i wanted to ask you your universe some of the folksy aliens as threats you know sort of despite the near infinite set of resources out there in the universe so do you think that we pose a threat to alien civilization or are aliens only endanger if we see them as a threat in a. Why can't we just all share. The vast amounts of platinum and water in the universe e mean hypothetically or in in the book in reality like in our universe. Well i think that really depends on like the situation. Because like i see people making these really kind of wild speculation like really aliens really showed up. This is definitely what would happen. And it's like no way. You don't know you don't do that. So i think people kinda get in their heads a little too much about. What is logical whenever when the reality is like if alien showed up becoming with their own set of reasons and politics and culture and rationality and we have no idea what that would be. I think in general the idea that would come for our resources kinda silly unless that resources specific to life on earth is obviously like elements are really common. Like water is everywhere. You know things that are common on arthur common everywhere which is like there are any number of reasons why they could show up and possibly be hostile or possibly you know be not hostile and i think that that sort of like why. It's kinda hard to make real speculation of like. Why can't we get along. But we don't know what they're deal is. We don't know what their politics are. And we don't know what our politics would be when they showed up you know. I think it's interesting to say. Well what would have happened if they showed up like in nineteen sixty like at the height like the most dangerous height of the cold war as opposed to like nineteen ninety five. When not a lot going on you know and everyone's pretty chill and you know there's not any rise in fascism yet that we would see in the two thousand so yeah it's it's just like a conflation of scenarios but i think the main thing as far as human nature goes is we are very fearful and we humans have a very deep-rooted instinctive in group out group mentality and that i think would be the hardest thing for us to overcome so i hear that you're saying that these aliens essentially by definition alien and maybe impossible to understand their motives and to communicate with them and in reality like an hour yunos in the book. It feels to me like maybe you wrote a sort of as a bridge like to make them a little bit. More understandable because true alien is hard to relate to choose their gap. There between what you think is actually happening in our universe in what you wrote about in the book l. absolutely because that sort of like a narrative function like. What does the store you want to write. And i think thinking about a rival is the aliens aren't really characters like they don't really have personalities and like i did want to have aliens with personalities motivations and relationships and stuff like that so it had kind of figure out where the line was like. You know looks alien and feels alien but is still understandable. And that's part of why the actual work of decoding human language happens before the narrative starts because like that just. I didn't want to tell the story of how we learn the language like that. Just wasn't the book i wanted to write. So the understandable ness of the aaid in particular was a narrative function. But it was also kind of like the story i wanted to write. I wanted the narrative to be like center on the relationship between these two that exciting story if the alien show up and we never figure out how to communicate with them. It's just like a big shrug for thousand years right. Yeah or it'll be like a game scenario where it's late fight. And then they just kind of stopped one day and everyone's like well they'll be back. You know not actually know why they stopped fighting in your book. There's a lot of linguistic theory and discussion of the structure of the alien language. Do you think that in reality linguists would be on the front lines of real life alien contact. No no absolutely. I think the thing people tend to forget about linguistics is it is a very tune to not just human syntax but also the human mouth and sounds that we may canned like half of linguistics is just about the sounds the phonemes but also at the same time there's just so much about like language acquisition that we haven't figured out yet and the thing is like i think the easiest way like there's a trump skin way to understand language acquisition. Which was the one. I ascribe to earliest in the in the in the context of the book which is why in the book. Human language is almost kind of described as algorithm and basically if he of figure out the algorithm can decode any human language with enough context. I wish i had the dog them. Basically the idea being if the human brain is the hardware languages software. So if you don't have that hardware than the softwares completely meaningless. And this i think would work in reverse to i think you know i'm not saying linguists would be completely useless but i think like the study of human linguistics probably is not going to apply to hypothetical alien language. I think that the most useful thing in that context probably be like pattern recognition software. That sort of thing. Because you know it's like if you look at people trying to figure out dolphin language they're not human linguists so that that that is why i think linguis- wouldn't be terribly useful in this scenario isn't any human attempt to understand the alien language going to be constrained in the same way. We could argue that mathematics universal. We don't actually know that it could just be like a product of the way that our hardware work really no sense to ilya mathematicians. Yeah yeah exactly. It's hard to say because it's just like you're you're dealing with incredible speculatives with also fundamentally like a line of thinking that you yourself are not capable of which was kind of a weird thing with me because it's one thing where to book and you have to describe the sounds being made you don't have the luxury of like you know a sound department making sounds but also like the the alien language in how it operates as opposed to human language like there would be overlaps like it's a spoken language lake so it's not lake through colors or smells or whatever so it's like an oral spoken language you know and so therefore it uses phonemes that uses sounds but the similarities kind of there like they don't really have words they it's it's more like a sort of cluster of phonemes that create a lump of meaning and describing that.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

06:54 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"Yourself and tell our listeners. A little bit about yourself. So i mostly for the last ten years or so have been working in new media online video and to a lesser degree podcasting. And like the whole time. I had been secretly plotting to be a science fiction author but that only really came to fruition last year a stickler really long time getting published is really hard especially in the sort of like weird nebulous world of commercials sci-fi the after doing youtube for about ten years. And i still do it like it's still kinda main bread butter. I published my first novel last july. And the second one series comes out in october and then we'll just take it from there. Well congratulations. I'm glad to see that. Science fiction is open to newcomers. It makes the rest of us is hiring science fiction authors. Have a little bit of hope a difficult. Yeah i feel like. I've noticed that a lot of the prestige novels lately not mine. I'm like last year's all the big winners of the awards. Were debut not so yeah. It's it's pretty opening two new blood. I think science fiction lately has been a lot less reactionary than it has been historically removes groups before we dig into the details of your book with a few questions. We ask every science fiction author to sort of orient them in the space. The here's some questions about science fiction. In general i question is sort of philosophical. Do you think that star. Trek transporters kill you an clone you on the other side or actually transport your atoms to your destination. They kill you no hesitation on that one I mean sorry science it is what it is. That's an easy one guys bet. It's one of those things where it's like. Just don't think about it okay. So given that would you use teleport or would you use it to like get to go to the surface of pluto or whatever now especially since it only works short range anyway guys like i feel like i'd be like that doctor in second season of the next generation that replacement doctor who was like no. I won't do the thing. Like yeah literally kills you or i will in that case. What technology in science fiction would you most like to see become reality. The one that cures like cancer and parkinson's i would really like to not have alzheimer's. I think that's might. Maybe i think for us soon. You're like a millennial is like i think our generation is going to be one of the last generations. That lake doesn't really benefit from technology. That can protect us from like alzheimer's and dementia and parkinson's and stuff like that. So that kinda sucks feeling. You know assuming civilizations doesn't fall which you know. I'm not convinced that it won't feel like in the future. There will be like really good preventative measures for certain diseases that we urge has really commonplace now. And it'd be nice to you know be of your of sound mind when you die like dimension runs really bad at my family. So that's something. I think about a lot. It'd be nice to time when people look back and said really. That's still happen to people that's crazy. Yeah last general question is what your personal answer to the fermi paradox given the huge number of planets out there the seemed have earth like conditions. Why isn't that. We haven't seen aliens have been visited by aliens or observed aliens on another planet yet. I guess honestly my answer is basically the answer that i gave him the book although the answer and the book comes with a pretty huge asterisk that comes in the second book basically. I think that intelligent life is the is the extreme rarity. I think also people don't really take into consideration how young the universes and just the sheer number of stars that had to like go through life cycles in order to get to the complex elements that comprise our solar system. Now like a lot of stars had to go supernova for us to get things like platinum and car been all sorts of fun things. i think. It is very likely considering that intelligent life only popped about on nurse. As a result of a cavalcade of mass extinctions in kind of close to the end of the earth's life cycle you know about eighty percent of the way through. And what are the odds that that would happen over and over especially in a fairly young universe think we got like a few trillion years before heat. Death starts in earnest. So like i think it's i think it's a combination of the universe is still pretty young and intelligent. Life is the filter like targets. Hard to cross that threshold. I don. I don't honestly by the whole like you know we're going to kill ourselves argument. And that's what that's where all the other aliens are because we have to work pretty damn hard to wipe ourselves into extinction. While i'm glad to hear you have faith survivals museums. I mean i don't think in the survival civilization. I'm just saying it like we're like cockroaches. It'd be really hard to wait altogether all right so that's a lot of fun. I have a lot more questions for our other but first let's take a quick break. Fifteen minutes could save you. Fifteen percent or more. is that shakespeare. It's geico shakespeare from one of his unpublished. Works would be not for awakening. Nee give it the batteries for fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent toll more. No it's from geico. 'cause they help save people money well hate to break it to you but geico got it from shakespeare gyco fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Any college could make you look good on paper. At penn. college students are more into looking good in the studio with looking good on the job site looking good in the. Or with something. That already looks good. Look even better when you become a penn college tomorrow maker. You'll look good to everyone to learn more about their one hundred. Plus industry backed applied technology programs at p. c. t. dot edu because the past might be written on paper but the future is made by hand. Okay we're back. And i'm talking to lindsay ellis author of axioms end. Let's talk about your book. Which i really enjoy. Congratulations on it. Your story really talks a lot about so of species. Conflict and the difficulties and dangers of communication and contact between different species. So tell me what drew these themes. What made you decide to make this the focus of your book. Well i think the thing about first contact fiction in general is it always is about some form of other capital. Oh basically it's it's always kind of dealing with a sort of anxiety slush curiosity about something that you yourself.

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Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

06:48 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"That it's even possible to communicate with them right. Because i guess you have to assume since there are a spacefaring civilization or species that they do have communication at least between them. There must be some way. Assuming there is sort of separate you know consciousness and Minds and things like that. It's not a hive mind or the board. They must have some way to communicate themselves. So you know there. There must be something there that we can. Maybe the coder figure out. I think it's a pretty good assumption. That aliens will communicate with each other but whether we could decode it and figure it out. I think that assumes a lot about the way alien brains work in the way they think into the conditions under which they evolved. I think we want to be real about it. I think it would be really extraordinarily difficult. We be very very lucky. I mean there are still human languages that we have not decoded remember how difficult it was to decode like egyptian hieroglyphics. If we didn't have the rosetta stone we might not have ever figured it out. And so there's lots of difficulties there just because you have speaker of that. Language doesn't mean you can decode it bride. But i guess they were. Citizen was hard because we didn't have anyone knew those languages to talk to. But do you think maybe you know. So many was alive. You could maybe have a conversation and start to figure it out. I imagine if there is life out there in the universe it must have some sort of commonalities to our life what it means to be alive and not alive and also physics and math and things like that right. Wouldn't give us some common basis to start with perhaps but that sort of the exciting thing about this question. We're hoping if we do meet alien life it will surprise us that it will exist in ways. We hadn't imagined were possible. We'll communicate or think in ways that we never even thought of. That's the purpose of exploration rights to go out and be surprised by reality to see you in it disagrees with your preconceptions. And so it's sort of easy to imagine. Yeah life could be sort of similar us in these basic ways. We assume these foundational things have to exist. But i'm open to be surprised. So i don't think it would make for a very fun book though if showed up and we just talked to them for a hundred years like on a great story so again is a is a literary device how she had to assume aliens were similar enough for us to talk to them. But i think in the brought into our actual universe. It's much more likely to be much more difficult. If not impossible right and i guess it doesn't help if they're giving you the silent treatment like they do book and much easier aliens come here which i think is less likely ride because of the distances involved what we get a message from aliens on another planet really really far away and then our communication is like takes twenty years to send a message. Imagine learning to speak a language across that kind of distance and time when you only get to like. Ask three questions and get three answers. Then you're dead in like you know the next generation of scientists have to take it up Yeah that would be pretty slow all right. Well let's talk about some of the other bits here so in her universe. There are aliens all over the galaxy. And how do they get around so in her universe. She tried really hard to make realistic. Try to stick to the physics of our universe in her universe. There's life all over the galaxy but intelligent life is very very rare. There's only a couple of species that are intelligent that have the capability to even eventually developed spacefaring technology here. I think she's trying to make a comment on this question. But you know like how common is life and how common is intelligent life. These aliens don't have like faster than light travel so they fly through the universe close to the speed of light on their awesome ships but they're also limited in the same way. We are by the vast distances between stars was asians interacting in. Stay cohesive yesterday civilizations these are not actually very broad. It's like there's one alien planet this another alien planet and something that she talks about in the book which i thought was really interesting is the possibility of an interstellar war Would an alien species wanna wipe out another one like if they were found and a star ten light years from here which is very very close. Cosmological ever want to kill us right. What is earth have that they need. There's plenty of like platinum iron and oxygen and water in jupiter and in neptune. That wouldn't need to come to earth to kill us to take it unless they actually know wanted us as slaves. There's no reason in my mind. They would actually need to have a conflict with us The cover that in her book like what's the reason behind his war. Yes she does talk about that and she takes his sense. Essentially all species are born in conflict. And it's very similar to another book talked about once max berries book providence about discovering an alien species as sort of weird and sort of feels the need to fight the ideas that like when you grow up on a planet their limited resources and so he's sort of learned to see threats if somebody's so far from you that you don't see them as you're in group than there in your out group and that makes them a threat so even if two communities to aliens in different star systems could actually live independently not bother each other this sort of this natural tendency to see each other's a threat and then start pulling triggers People are basically people are jerks. And i hope aliens aren't jerks but in her novel basically are all right. So the amy's are they're they're at war and they have cyborg bodies there's sort of like super advanced or they is kind of evolved into this kind of cyborg makes technology existence. No they are constructed right. They build these bodies and have really awesome capabilities in autumn. Want to get too much into the detail. 'cause i don't wanna spoil it but it's the sort of host biological system and because of it. They can live for hundreds of years and they can repair themselves. You can do all sorts of cool engineering to these bodies that you could imagine. You could replace your arm or get a new one upgraded or on this kind of stuff all right so it sounds like in general. The book stays pretty close to science and ideas about six. it's not like they're inventing new kind of energy or particle or misconstruing. Any sort of matter notions or anything right. No there's no pym particle or anything crazy like that you know. The size of the book is pretty well done and she's made some choices about how aliens might be with to my mind. I think makes them a little more human than they're likely to be al's get why for a literary point of view sort of needed to do that all right and then so you got to talk to her i did. She was really nice and spend like a half an hour talking to me about aliens and what they might be like and what. It's like to resign. Super one of the main characters is really truly deeply alien that we have a lot of fun. Hug them all right. Well here is daniels. Interview with. Lindsay is author of the book axioms and all right. So i'm very happy to welcome to our program. Lindsay ellis author of axioms. End lindsey vonn as you introduce.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

07:24 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"So i guess they don't need to eat for decades asked him sort of magical nuclear something source inside of him and under they're like in a cage or a dome or how did they are. They kept yes of the government keeps them basically in the equivalent of area fifty one and has been constantly trying to communicate with them but they just sort of sit there ignoring the scientists and until the new aliens arrive and then everything changes what happens when the new aliens arrive so the new aliens arrive and they meet the character the protagonist and then they tried to rescue the original aliens. They try to save the original aliens though. Then the protagonist the the person that we get to know best as the character actually trying serve as an interpreter between this new alien and the rest of humanity on this new aliens mission to rescue the original aliens from a third batch of aliens that are coming to take them out. Whoa maybe we should giving us boy. That sounds like a big part of their. What so that. The new aliens can communicate and do communicate with the main character they can. They have decided to and so a lot of the book is about learning. Like what's that like for the aliens how to communicate with the aliens. Why haven't the original ones communicated and it's really fun and fascinating and if you read the book. I love to hang out and have coffee and talk to you about it. But i don't want to give too much away about the sort of intellectual ideas behind the book right right and so what do they look like. They humanoid they look like a cube. Wh- what what the alien bodies look like. They're sort of humanoid in my mind's eye look a little bit like the alien in the movie. Alien like a big long head and really really large is but roughly humanoid. But they're not like you know a big gashes cloud or like a gelatinous cube or anything to weird Is that part of the conspiracy that the movie alien actually came from you. Just birth that conspiracy theory right here today and good job. all right. spread disinformation duty for today the whole character arc and argue the is really about this character getting to know this one alien. That's coming to rescue others and learning also sort of the larger context of the galaxy. How many species are out there. How many intelligent species there are this stuff so you know from the point of view somebody. Who's really curious about whether this is true in reality is fascinating for this character at least to get some answers Oh i see the new aliens that come and talk to our main character to give him the scoop and what's going on in the galaxy. Yeah a little bit into grudgingly. What does that mean. Those aliens are not here to educate us in share. You know their intellectual wealthier here to save their brothers and sisters so the only absolutely necessary do they give away a tidbit of information that we are desperate to learn is he. The humans are like the annoying kid who keeps asking questions. Exactly how many of you are there. How do you cheever faster than light. Fouled i can think exactly so it. Does he paint a friendly universe out there or does he paint legislative like a warring kind of hostile universe. It's a complicated question. The pictures she paints communication with aliens is complicated is difficult is maybe impossible and potentially dangerous because meeting these aliens and talk to them could begin a conflict between humans and those aliens and not necessarily seen as like a good thing to communication with. These aliens is a tricky topic. I say strictly because you might say the wrong thing and the next thing you know you're gonna star war metro. You say hey. Didn't they see you guys in that movie. And then boom humanities eradicated the worst thing you can say the ones based on the movie alien by ridley thought how dare you and that's why we don't send cartoonist to be ambassador or anything. He's keep him at home in area. Fifty one pencil and paper in. That's it all right. Well let's get into some of this size that she talks about her novel. Linzie elysees axioms. And and then. Let's get to your interview with her. But first let's take a quick break to show you how easy it is to file a claim with geico. We hired a soap opera star. Gracious me my car has storm damage to file. A claim could possibly get worse when my claims team. Leave me for someone else. Someone less intense No actually when you file a claim with geico you get your own dedicated claims team. Who promises to stay with you throughout the process. I've never known such loyalty. We can't wait for the second season. Geigo great service without all the drama. Did you know one medium. 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She uses or imagine or talks about in her book so the main character in the book is actually a linguist who went to uc irvine. No way what is to get her degree totally. Yes absolutely nice to see. Uci like appear in culture somewhere. That's crazy why it's i'm not. I'm not saying anything against university but it does seem like an unlikely university pig. Does she have roots in california or something hard. She arrived at that. You ask her yes. She lives in long beach. And so i think she just wanted to like a nearby university and the story takes place in la. I also suspect she didn't want it to be too. Glamorous and the character is actually the kind of student we get at uci first in her family to go to college not very wealthy and so i think it actually puts uci in a good light offers an opportunity for lots of folks to get an education. I guess maybe the main kind of signs topic here is about communication with alien. And i guess she poses the question whether it's even possible to talk to an alien like maybe they're so alien we can't even have a common basis on which to talk or communicate. Yes she uses. Linguistic knowledge of this character to talk about how human knowledge is put together and trying to speculate about how an alien language might work. And how you might sort of build the basic primitives you would need to learn to communicate with them and so i give kudos for like thinking it through. You know it's not just like you start pointing stuff in saying the words and then five minutes later a deep conversation about philosophy. She does take us on that tour and has lots of things that are misunderstood and subtle cultural references. That aren't included in words. You know this is a lot of that good stuff but also she assumes that these aliens the ones that arrived in her book can have their language sort of cracked by this sort of linguistic analysis.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

07:13 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

"Science fiction universe of lindsay ellis. That's right lindsay. Els is the author of a really fun book called axioms and which explores a lot of these topics in some pretty interesting ways and this is part of our series of science fiction author interviews and discussions about their work. We have a bunch of in the podcast archive right. Then you that's right. We've talked to a huge number of really fun and creative authors have been really generous and told us about how they created. The universe of their novel is the literary podcast. We're digging into the physics of their universe. Is it plausible. How does it work. How did they put it together. And what can we learn about our universe from their created fictional universe yet designs literary podcast on occasion. Then you're interested in discovering new authors or hearing interviews with well known authors of science for check out our archive. Do you think if you wrote a semi fiction novel. You'd be up for being interrogated about the physics of it biophysicist. I get interrogated by physicist every week week. Actually a you'd be especially experienced. Yeah yeah i have a special degree. Then you should science fiction at sounds like something to add to your list. Keep flying right horror horror or a period drama. You're hiring all those called being on a podcast with a physicist misery partout but anyways we're talking today about lindsay else's work and she's a pretty interesting author i mean she's pretty multifaceted and she does a lot of things. Online right yeah. She has a pretty big presence online. She has a youtube channel. She does literary criticism and so this is the beginning of her career as an author. She's cracking into the science. Fiction community is pretty cool to see that the community is open. This way that people can still come in with a new idea a debut novel and make the best seller list yeah. It's a pretty big splash. I mean she made the new york times bestseller lists in there. I try yeah exactly. One hundred percent of her novels have been bestsellers. Yeah that's a pretty good. There wouldn't congratulations to her and they were going to talk about her book. Axioms end meaning like the end of axioms or like the the end of an axiom. It's the end of an axiom. Yeah and i don't wanna spoil exactly what the title means. You'll only find out about two thirds of the way through the book but a lotta. The book is about questioning your axioms about questioning your thoughts about how the universe worked and also questioning your thoughts about how aliens operate and how to communicate with them. It's sort of like a paradigm shift. It's kind of what it's about. Yeah exactly all right. Well maybe step us through. What is the basic premise of the book will in the universe that she created. It's like a slightly alternative history. Goes back to two thousand and seven all the way back to two thousand seven. I know exactly. You can cast your mind back before twenty twenty your fuzzy memories of how the world used to work. Does your like a different world. doesn't it well. She literally has a different world and in her world. Aliens have arrived on earth but they arrived like decades ago know in the sixties and the government covered up. So it's sort of like the roswell scenario where they're aliens in area fifty one Only the government knows about them. Wow so in. The fifty day landed like in flying saucers or so they landed decades ago and sort of crash-landed but then the government's swept it up and kept under wraps until more aliens arrives here. We are in two thousand seven. More alliens are landing and the secret is getting out. They have like julian assange. Like character is trying to blow the whistle on the government and leaked the fact that the government has been keeping aliens a secret for decades. And it's all blown up when more aliens arrive. Wow you know. I've always wondered why all these times between movies and shows the always portrayed. The government is wanting to cover this up. Do you know where that comes from. Like what would be the rationale for government to cover it up. I don't think there is any rationale. I think it's a hundred percent born of conspiracy theories i could just doesn't make any sense doesn't make any sense from an individual point of view. Why would an individual scientists or government worker not wanna share this information and it doesn't make sense from the sort of government policy point of view like i never believed the argument. That like people are gonna go crazy if they find out like you gotta deal with it is plenty of bad news out there and just let us know and we'll figure out a policy so i never really made sense to me. I think it just comes from people who think the government is lying to us about everything because the government has lied to us about stuff before. Just a general suspicion of government Exactly and also if you want to believe that aliens exist and the government's not telling us that they do then the only way for you to believe that the government has aliens is to assume that they're lying right Well as in the book. The aliens landed a long time ago and then they started landing again mad that she explained why they came back. Yes she does. The aliens have landed our sort of coming after the ones that landed forty years ago but one of the really fascinating things about the aliens. Atlanta forty years ago is that they didn't die they crash-landed and we have corpses. The government has custody of living aliens. But the fascinating thing is at those aliens have been refusing to communicate. They'd like ignored every effort to make contact or talk to them. Wow because we imprison them or they're just being shy or they're giving us a culture. That's a great question right and it goes to the heart of like. Why are the aliens doing something to answer that question. You have to understand like what did aliens want. Why are they here. What's important to them. And that's really. The heart of the book is trying to make sense of. Could you ever understand what the aliens want and why they do things. Can you even do basic communication with the illness. Could you develop a language to talk to them and even if you had that. Could you ever really understand them and empathize with them right. Because who knows nor wet conditions they evolved right. They could have evolved under totally different conditions. There are sort of way we see the world to be totally different than the way they see the world absolutely. It's very tempting to think about aliens. Sort of star trekkie with their like us but just a tiny little bit different so talking to aliens is sort of like talking to somebody from the other side of the world that eat stuff. That feels weird to you. But you're capable of sort of extending and extrapolating from your experience to. There's andy here is like aliens will be pretty alien and so might even be there so puzzling that they just ignore you for forty years for reasons of their own. I like that element of it is a realistic sense of frustration and difficulty the same sense that like remember that movie arrival Aliens show up just sort of like what's your deal. What are you doing here. It's hard to even know how to begin communicating with them. They're so weird right. But i have questions about the practicality of like how do you keep aliens hidden somewhere do you have to put him in a caja habitat and uh defeat them. What do they eat and poop. Yeah right so these aliens they keep them under wraps and the airlines are actually self powered so these aliens have pretty cool biological technology. They're actually post biological. They're like heart nervous system but the rest of them sort of like advanced cyborgs. And they come with some internal power source..

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

05:05 min | 6 months ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

01:59 min | 2 years ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Pass the bechtel test talking about sex positive even that conversation yeah that came as a surprise me jasmine and her colleagues who gets named as tiffany any talk about thee welcome party aliens and how jasmine tells tiffany haddish she should not go even though tiffany goes and then dies and then jasmine yeah and the first lady talk about that conversation starts with her son and then about will smith but then burger a few lines they they talk about her years they've a few tiny exchanges between little may whitman in her mom to that are just like i mean i think there is especially that scene with jasmine and the first lady you're like all right we got some there's some there's evidence here franca i mean we may need to go back on this like review this but i think most of berlin smoothies pass the bechtel trusting godzilla might be the bill in the patriot might be the two oh to frighten also though a remember that probably ninety nine percent of the dialogue is not passing the new minimum nother tiny ribbon little tiny ribbons on this gigantic move i mean it's like a lot of red pen and like some gold stars lot of red hen why i like i love movies like this that are like super watchable but deeply flawed like that's another reason why i like i love transformers seven that would be only one that with watchable of the group but at least you know like just so much to deconstruct like you know the military in the terrible characters and the way shot like oh i mean everyone you're incredible very very good let's write the movie on her nipples scale a five nipples based on his representation of women i'm gonna give it like a half a because even though there are some kind of like pleasant surprises in the movie like at passing the bechtel test.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

04:48 min | 2 years ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Series like can we find out later co exist in alien just goes no they're kind of like well it's worth asking hey hey i tried he doesn't even go why yeah he's like okay he said no okay some really cool new jersey one oh one president's hottie so then jeff goldblum is like no we can't use nuclear weapons against them that's this is a horrible idea and he's right they tried doesn't work because the the shelter still up on alien spaceship so then will smith borrow the helicopter in somehow knows exactly where to go to find well he would grow but why would he thinks 'cause they agreed to meet their oh did they amazon 'cause like whenever he leaves he's like come to me at the base after you go strictly right and she's like oh okay and so that's where she's trying to get the whole movie is try to the base and then when she gets there it's been destroyed by the alien pot so they they meet up and they're like oh my god and then right cass there's a kiss and then acl it the president is reunited with his wife but she is bleeding internally and then she dies hoops it is now july fourth act three burnley a everyone's at their lowest point it looks hopeless yes balian shields their free thirty guys what do we do we arbitrarily killed one of the women all at a low yeah going the music swelled very emotional yeah and then jeff goldblum he's throwing a fit in his dad's like hey get off of this freezing for before you catch a cold and jeff goldens like oh that's it we have to give they alien ship a computer virus and then like it zeros and ones begin to rain into the screen like green saying he will mean like my favorite part of the scene is he is drunk like he is yeah lit when he comes up with a computer virus harris idea and i like to like my head canon of the scene because like the whole thing like happens over the course of like four hours so you don't sober up after four hours so like he comes up with this idea while he's wasted he pitches while he's still still drunk he's still drunk when he gets in the craft will only that whenever he goes oh thinking that he has sobered up in my head cannon and he's like about the throw up and it's like sure he gets like air sickness but it's also 'cause he's been drinking oh i the whole movie that so then they figure out today after they're gonna fly this small alien ship that they have into space to the mothership infected with the virus a which will cause all the shields till like retract and then will smith is like i'll do it they organized attack the gather up all the pilots they can including randy quaid by just asking like hey does anyone here know how to fly and he's like and i'm like no with the right lane is the contrivance for why they have enough planes but not enough pilots there's like a newscast where they're like yeah a the mill a bunch of military people are hiding in the mountains 'cause they're scared miss yeah that that's that's the real like that's the explanation like are brave troops there actually quite cowardly there which comes the shelf any deal with them later honestly the most of the third act like the the the logic behind every decision was very cryptic to me well that's why i'm here i'm here to like it's one of those really pedantic movies where everytime you're like but why did thing is like oh there was a throwaway line there was a line as i as i was watching it and and you know i mean it's like you barely have to like i'm i'm glad that you're able to follow if you're really paying attention but you barely have to be able to follow you're just like it's gonna happen so someone's gonna fly into the spaceship and then someone's gonna kiss nuts or yeah great things happened in this movie alien corpse parts will fall from the sky and the musical swell and the problem is on the ground like seemingly forgetting that his wife died in twenty four hours pretty good he's gotta make people die in san pedro should reaction to that do not react to that yeah like the like the next day the first scene of a act to july third is like will smith and friends like getting cigars like reading will be t that but it's like jasmine is presumed dead yeah it is pretty much the entire population of l.

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

The Bechdel Cast

03:15 min | 2 years ago

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on The Bechdel Cast

"Different takes on a conspiracy theory americana and it's not either of these films can decide if the deep state is battering they're like well the deep states they're doing its best to say yeah they're trying some cute faces on the deep state about later he's real excited about the light french fries like oh my god it's villain from the master of disguise oh really yes that is a deep cut here data star trek which i did not know that the lebanon broadway actor good character actor a i did see independence day is a resurgence or whatever the attic floor yeah i although you hunters different love for that one because so ambitious and like just so out of time only you like eight 'cause i did a video about this which i'm sure we're gonna kind of at least touch on which is how like independence day is a movie that could only exist in the nineties yeah and then we have the sequel that just does not make any sense in a post nine eleven alex jones world an end so the movie they made was just like well i guess we're gonna invade right for the new one it's basically everyone is back except for will smith yeah like muggy as well a chevrolet recast the president's daughter which is kind of be will bring because a may whitman yeah may whitman is an actual star recast her with hot nobody her yeah her role in numbers went her and then okay i'll just jump into the recap and i will go yeah let's roll there's this movie is also famously two and a half hours long it is so real long that's nothing compared to the norm today that's true i mean but for her first movie that's like a short marvel movie very long has this true yeah so it's july second one act one they tell you exactly where they act breaks are in the guy kevin masterclass in that way should teach a class on this good screenwriting throwing so an extra terrestrial radio signal comes in and everyone's freaking out jeff goldblum is there he's the science guy still not again early sure what his specific job is he's a science guy in cable repairman the cable repairman his dad joke yeah and that's i think that's not quite accurate i think he's a technician at a cable company and got it only become a hacker later on female if he knows the uber stress she's got mac the same alas i love the vague techno jargon years it's been like i put a virus into the alien rude everyone's like oh my god another thing that only works in ninety six like yeah yeah people see the movie hackers and you're like sure yeah my favorite part of hackers is that a lot of the cats is wearing green accenture it's the same vcr just like i just love.

"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Reality TV RHAP-ups: Reality TV Podcasts

Reality TV RHAP-ups: Reality TV Podcasts

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"lindsay ellis" Discussed on Reality TV RHAP-ups: Reality TV Podcasts

"You know, scripted television because you are guessing what's gonna come next and you can analyse people much much more than written characters. Not that you can't like. You know, when you're watching game of thrones or something, that kind of thing you can really discuss because there's a lot there, but you know, how much can you really analyze friends? Probably a lot. Actually. There's probably some great videos on that, but I don't have that kind of talent. Yeah, I there are. There are great like videos, video, essays and stuff on shows and movies. One of my favorite is every frame of painting, which is actually no longer no longer thing. Because they shut the channel down, but. But I often find that like many of them are just like they just talk themselves in circles through like a while. This shot is great because of this in this was the intention here, and it's like, I don't even know what you're saying at this point. You just saying nonsense like I have no idea like I don't think you knew actually believe what you're saying. You're just you just put producing content over and over. But yeah, it's it's it's hard. It's hard to talk about scripted stuff because it is. There's a lot less to read into if like. Obviously, like it's almost for me. I find the same difficulty talking about survivor versus big brother where survivor, there's still an edit to talk about this. I almost have to pretend that the doesn't exist in order to properly talk about the show because when there's an edited, there's like, well, this is the narrative and like we're talking about a narrative, whereas big brothers like this is life. This is everything that's happening and and there's infinite possibilities in terms of like what we can talk about and possibilities, and scenarios, and people, and events and everything. And that was something with big brother that I didn't even realize. I didn't realize until last year when I started watching it that it had the live aspect to it. I didn't realize that it wasn't edited and so that that is something that it definitely has over Shriver in terms of being able to podcast about, unless you're really interested in talking about the edit and Anna. Leising that in. And that's a lot more. You can almost get into like film study and that sort of thing when you when you really analyze it that way. And luckily Felix arriver has recently been trying to mess with us a little bit in terms the Ed, they realized people were onto what they were doing in the couple instances, but but yet the like on YouTube, they're a couple video essay channels that are really good. Lindsay Ellis is a great one. And pineapple boy films does some that are really good. But the thing is with those is you can't just say, oh, I'm going to talk about, you know, I don't know twilight and make a really great video about it just by talking for ten minutes to my camera. That takes like knowledge of a lot of stuff beyond and research and editing skills and and so that can be a whole different funding to get involved in. But it's not at all the same as just being able to turn on your camera in, or you know microphone in podcast for. For a while. It's a different skill set, but but I was also really like I also studied cinema in college in addition to my computer science degree. And so I really that was really where my passion was in college in terms of like the stuff I could learn while I was shutting my brain off from all of the math and science, and.

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