2 Episode results for "Lincoln Reggie"
"We have a trigger warning for this episode. It includes depictions of panic attacks. We went to a different bar into said like way too many shots there and I just think sometimes they get mean and I am worried. I said something but my roommates dislike work all but she said it in a way that I don't know I just don't you are repressing underlying feelings. You are sad I mean. Last week I broke up with my boyfriend. How does it? How does that know that? I'm sad right now So it's an artificial intelligence robot but it understands feelings based on human interactions. I am B. M. Pat and it has your voice. That's very cool. Yeah I've never. I've never seen anything like that. Yeah I mean. There are a lot of different. Ai is but this is the only one that expresses empathy so but anyway Thanks for participating. Oh that's it. Oh so. Cathy at the front desk of she'll give your participant fee all right. Well thank you jeff. Yep sorry you're fine. Just have a good day. Costco's thank you so much. Subject has self destructive tendencies seriously. It's just crazy that all these people spill their guts to an AI. I think people just like to talk about themselves. Yeah Hey path. I hit an oatmeal with bananas. Almonds for breakfast you are happy. That's insane right on so I met this girl at the vending machine earlier. She's very nice. She's she's joining our kickball team tonight. Did you finalize the roster not yet? I'm still running stats. You know I was thinking. Maybe we should give professor hails some playing time. No no he always gets caught stealing bases. So it's about bonding come on. I mean who cares that we're not number one know I do. Actually because we can't keep losing to the Police Department they just the Oh. I got an email. I'm I'm a finalist for the grand medal. What we they want to present to the committee. This Thursday everyone who wins the Graham is in God's like the Guy who heads spot labs. I just had a billion dollar. Ipo Do you think can win your researches flawless. But it's just it. CouldN'T IT BE BETTER? Your Textbook Achiever. Okay and I'm out of chips. I'M GONNA get some chips. You want anything from the vending machine now now. I can't I can't eat right now. Back Grab Cram Award. How is that possible? You are nervous. I'm nervous you are not good enough. I'm not good enough. You are a fraud. You are going to love today's episode. You are being optimistic. Maybe but is that such a bad thing. Thank you are. I'm Jonathan Mitchell. And this is the truth and today's episode is about what happens when your inner critic takes the form of cutting edge artificial intelligence. You are hoping they like it. I always am. The truth is brought to you by progressive saving money in your car. Insurance is easy with progressive. It's an average savings of seven hundred ninety six dollars for customers who switch and save in fact. Customers can qualify for an average of six discounts on their auto policy with progressive discounts. Just for starting a quote online or having multiple vehicles on their policy get your quote online at Progressive Dot Com and see how much you could be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey who Save With Progressive Twenty nineteen discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations now back to the fraud. What did you say you are a broad? That's not an emotion. How would you draw that conclusion? You are a broad okay. You know what I'm stressed out. You do not need to add to it. I already have high expectations from everyone will discover you are a fraud. I'm stop saying that I'm not a fraud. You are smart but not that smart. You are not a genius. Does anyone actually think there a genius? Some people are not you. I work hard. Alright that counts for something so you will never win the award with my current design. Work Harder I guess yes so. I'm usually bring people here but you are special. Hey Soma this is Jenny. I ran into her again at the vending machine. I don't touch anything. The robot it's like a person with is our is a camera I said. Don't get close please. Ears our microphones to collect data from test subjects. What kind thousands of data points were choice? Voice intonation pauses in speech face. Contortions you creepy. Well it has to process everything in its algorithm to figure out your state of mind. Well my theory is a is will powerful takeover and dominate the world south. Great point a lot of food for thought ethically speaking. What are you philosophy Grad Student? Yeah I am actually here watch you could tell it in emotionally neutral thing like what you ate and analyze you m path. I had a cheeseburger and fries. You are aroused. Andrew flushing. The impact helps people understand. Their feelings makes them more emotionally open. Gives them something to talk to? It's like therapy but way smarter seems optimistic but I'm proving that this is what I can do for us and should do. It's what I propose. Ai will do goo well. I guess it makes sense that a woman would build a robot with emotions. I am excuse me. This took a lot of difficult engineering. It's it's primarily engineers. Got Selma is the first woman nominated for this very prestigious award. Third First Minority woman. Hey you come into kickball tonight I just keep working totally. Surreal MSRP game against the Chem nerds. Catchy guys later bye makes meeting you. Grad student knows more than me. Any confident coder could produce an a that reads emotions shut up. But an extraordinary Kotor would create a Ni- that examines the self critical mind can dig deeper on Carthage. Jeez will so hurry. Just haven't had my morning energy drinks. You ARE TIRED. Do a better job. That was harsh some. Are you messing with the pets code? Anyone could produce. Ai that reads emotions. But really the best coder reveals. People's inner monologues is self critical part of their brains. Well we missed you at the kickball game. Did you guys win? It's not about winning. It's about the bar afterwards. So you loss. Whatever it's fun right plus another game tonight. I don't have time I do are anxious Kartik. Have you ever had self-doubt sure the other day I was walking through campus and Saw Two buildings wondered cry. Jump across the top from one to the other okay. I'm sorry that that's yourself down. I don't know I don't know okay right now. I'm sure the ad can find something just. Can you just tell it what you had for breakfast? Teas a bacon egg and cheese sandwich. You are hopeful I am. I'm I'm getting some hookup vibes with Jenny. Here's an I have to tell you something and I realized this is gonNA sound really weird but The A AI. Think some fraud. Yeah some. You're getting in your head no it it. It actually told me that like literally said that. Look everyone. Low Key feels like a fraud. But if you're so stressed why don't you? Don't you have a therapist? No therapies dumb. I don't do that anymore. Might make you feel better? I WANNA grab an energy drink. I will be right back. Okay t some chips sure. Yeah Texts Jenny. You are so hot known Wait on text text text. Text Jenny thinking about your smile. You are naive. We what you naive. In what way my friend? Kenny is bad for you all right look I know. She's skeptical of a and that's literally what I do. And she thinks my sports stats. Research IS DUMB. Buddy will break your heart. Yeah WELL WE ALREADY. Kinda love her so I told you so here you go. Do you want any of this? Nom Good I got plenty of natural energy plus chips. So thank you for me. You think maybe the path is a little too critical now. No no good finally now I have to go. I will see you later. A by my hard work is paying off. You are confident. Yeah I feel better. You feel good about yourself. I guess it's true. I have accomplished a lot. So you are very proud of yourself. You think condescending no Partha case well adjusted car thick. You could learn from things. Research is a mess. He's analyzing our kickball games. He has good at five. What the therapist you could talk to someone. Therapists have biases. That's why this is correct. And I'm fine. I mean anyone would be stressed out not your brother. That's don't bring up. My brother thought the is the favorite. Shut up there is a reason he is and he. Phd NARROW IRS genius unflappable. Okay the perfect. Why Dot Perfect? It's perfect get it. Whoa have you been here all day? Sorry what time is it. It's nine I got you meatball sub. I'm not hungry you should. He got to work this things tomorrow. Hey for what it's worth. I think you got a real to win this. Whatever it's pointless no no no look being be even being a finalist as saying that no no that's why people say the losers don't think you're going to like. I really don't need your puzzle right now. I'm fine I'm fine. I just I need to work okay. Because you've been seeming really on edge lately you want me to get a therapist because I'm being a little crazy This is obviously just coming in here to undermine me because you think you should have been nominated for the Grammy Award. Your crappy kickball stats research so model complicated. Sports statistics that prevent injuries at for you. I feel fine for the record. Great actually until you got in my way right cool. I'M GONNA go. He knows. Of course you God luggy. Yeah I know it is like eighth grade. What when you ran for class president and it was a tie and you want because a coin flip. Why are you bringing that up? Would you be here today if they had flipped tales? I probably wouldn't you do not deserve the Graham idol statistically I understand stats. I'm not dumb. I'm not okay. Yeah I'm not a genius. Get but I work hard right and and I can work harder. Like the time in Undergrad when you gone. Ab on your character. You should have pulled an all nighter. I'll stay here all night however Carter more longer. You should not go play kickball. Time for your heart is racing. Your stomach is turning. You are a fraud. What is the point anything? If you do not win the big prize you will fail in every way in life. No one will hire you for a job. You will end up homeless or worse. Have to ask your parents for money. You are eight thing. What's happening freeze declined? Clint you suck so much. Even suckered kickball. You are only a or a. You are the worst human on of land. Pardon me off your Bio Care. Data meddlesome will return to in just a moment. But I do you. Experience stress or have anxiety or chronic pain or have trouble sleeping at least once a week. You're not alone many of us. Do I have trouble sleeping? Sometimes I go to bed and I wake up in the middle of the night. I can't go back to sleep for like exactly three hours. 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You don't have shortstop what's the score. There are five nothing Jenny. It's you take a seat. It's my turn to that okay. Let's go Selma yes run. She likes to win. Let's go home. She's going home. Let's go here's not no? We lost but restored runs. That's huge for you. Guys need to aim higher. I crushed it out there. Go Dude Soba you're good. You're very good at Gig Ball. No I think the rest of you are just really bad. Oh No Paul Brian. Little League rules. There were three years on that play. Tomorrow enjoy the winds. Life is like kickball. Yeah there's like life and death but other than that. It's basically kickball. I was waiting by the jukebox. Can we go to your place journey? I need a minute right fine. We'll discuss this later. She's so annoying. Look Soma I don't know what's going on with you right now. But you're off my in a data. Sweep what we'll do it. Maybe ruin your files. Yeah maybe I don't know like I said I couldn't see everything was all blurry. I got nauseous. Selma you had a panic attack. Oh Yeah Yeah. And thus the is able to capture mice replacing conventional mousetraps with a more humane option. Thank you Franklin's. One of the judges in front of my hero told nightmare. Remember just kickball. Not Like I was going to win. Anyhow I just got to get through just like be positive. Remember chill our next presenter is Salma Martinez. Hello I'm Selma Martinez. I'm a PhD student in robotics and machine learning here at tech and my research is called the path project when we think of as we think of doom and gloom the world ending but a is don't have to become are evil overlords. They can help us understand ourselves. Better figure out our needs before we even know they can be empathetic. So let's start by simply talking judges. Could you each? Please tell the I what you had for breakfast. I had yogurt with strawberries. You are in a difficult point in life and feel overwhelmed. But you are calm and can handle it. Be a deep breathing and meditation. That's actually true. And you're getting this from my voice. Yeah sure and your body. Language facial movements. Okay do me. I had an energy bar. You are hungry and angry. You are paying very interesting your Turnley on well. I don't eat breakfast. You are a fraud. Sorry you people will judge you okay. I see judge me. This is just pulling ideas thin air. I am so sorry sometimes. It's just a little glitzy blamed me but it is your fault. No no see I taught my too mine the self critical part of the brain which is a painful but necessary part of being human. That is a good point. Thank you but you overdid it. Excuse me the question. You pretend to have a question but you will. They statement to show off your supposed- intelligence you had a question but Make others feel small in order to make your bigger and prove yourself worth like Selma. Sorry actually this. This is not part of the presentation. Just Can someone say what they had for breakfast? No one cares about breakfast. They care about your massive self-doubt. Okay your lacking confidence enough to feels out of your control through your fingers. I am so sorry. Ruined this humiliating. Will you do cry? Like eighty other another panic attack ahead. Doubled down you already feel like a massive failure and now a massive embarrassment squire. You're doing this you did this. You programmed me. Why are you doing this? Stop just stop start. Where's she going? Is She done. I guess I shouldn't have skip breakfast. Some are UK hard. I'm so dizzy. What happened out there? I want to win but I just don't know how do your best right and it really. It's going to be okay. You are sad I am. Jenny dumped me. So I'm so sorry you predicted what happened. I YEP A chip moral issues. Dating someone who studies lamb? This is on. The judges have made their decision. This year's Graham Medal winner is some Martinez. You guys guys guys nights. Excuse me sorry to interrupt a little celebration. Professors Lincoln Reggie guys later. Listen I am really sorry about what happened. I obviously didn't like what it said about me. But your research is impressive. You are a broad got. I'm sorry I just turn it off. We used it's honest so my lab has a contract with the government but what for predicting voting trends in presidential elections that sort of thing examining voter impression ability? My is meant for therapy. No yeah I understand. Absolutely congratulations on all your. I mean it could have other applications. Don't you think for example? I know swain voter beliefs. Yeah it just set by. It's it's meant to be positive behavior with both of us. I here's my card call. Maybe we can discuss our mutual nemesis banks. Thank you I did it. Finally you wash. I really K. You and I need to talk about how you treated me. You will do great things. No don't be nice to me. They mean not how. I don't care about healthy. This will be a do whatever it takes. Give me all you got him. 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Mock Trade Deadline 2020 Part 1
"Amanda it is here Sust the fifth time. Now the we've done this with this cast of Luminaries Danny Larue from the athletic and Dan Real. GM radio PODCASTS Kevin Pelton from ESPN and Dan Feldman from NBC as tradition dictates. How's it going guys? Let's grabbed all talk over each other. I know I was very disappointing but I don't worry there'll be plenty of that to come so dan how how's How's the snow in Detroit right now? It is terrible I grew up here. I can't stand it I hate it. I'm so mad that my my one getaway during the winter has been all star weekend either charlet or Los Angeles New Orleans and right now getting ready to go to Chicago a couple of weeks Chicago. It's underrated actually how much less it snows in Chicago. But in the whole it's not the snow it's cold. Yeah Yeah it is difficult. And you'RE GONNA have to be like walking around Ronda and stuff too. Yeah you're it's like your entire landscape is just covered in melted cheese. Just can't get around. It's awful and Danny we talk like every day. I know you are already. Yep So let's do this the way we normally do. We split the teams up between the four of us. Ever GonNa try and make some try to make it pretty realistic here is we. Don't necessarily put in our own lenses of who we think is good or what we would be doing with these teams. There's a little of that but we're also just trying to predict here what's going to happen at the trade deadline so we'll go through an order alternate here and just talk about each of our teams and what we have it. Might I generally have the teams that were most likely. Deemed sellers tough to categorize this year especially because the so few teams teams are are out of it. But what we start with the Sacramento Kings. Here we have bogged down don which restricted free agent. You got the bull us over For Him Reshad homes again playing really well. Part of what we're doing but the fit with Bagley is an amazing. You could bullets over for him as well. If you're interested and same thing with Numancia Lisa who has a a non-guaranteed year next year at about seven million we are also looking to move moved Wayne deadman without taking back any negative assets KP The Atlanta Hawks are looking to add a starting center and patrol potentially add. Some second round picks Hicks by taking on salary. Is the one team with cap space. Dan the Boston Celtics would like to upgrade at Saturn. Another power forward would be nice but it's not a necessity city. The La Clippers would like to add of player worthy of championship. Closing five. Really whatever position they play and we have a first round pick and a ton of matching salary plus pretty good seconds depending on what offers on the table but will the Los Angeles Clippers be doing the deadline. That's the real question Orlando is still trying to make the playoffs but were willing to listen on Evan Foreign. EA and Kim birches will think could make a nice backup center option for for some teams but We're not desperately looking to move anyone we also would think about moving. Alfred could be new to get off his salary. Sorry for next year If the price isn't too high the Denver Nuggets are hoping to get value. For their impending restricting restricted free agents me Peasley an-and Gomez without adding salary because we're Peres perilously close to the luxury tax. And if there is a star who comes on the market that we can consolidate some talent or We would love to get in that bidding baton not expecting that box here We'd like to add a three D. small forward who can guard Lebron required in the finals. And as good enough to actually get minutes on this team draft picks young players like Dj Wilson Sterling Brown fat content. Maybe even Dante even though are available. We've got Ersan Ilyasova. Even maybe Robin Lopez for salary matching those Robin Lopez gets traded. We'd have to address backup center and his brother. I think they'll be okay Oklahoma. The city thunder are willing to listen to offers under no Gallinari though. We want to be impressed with it. We're happy to keep him for the rest of the season. We're also looking to trade Andre Roberson for for somebody who can help. Ideally somebody who has some sort of cost control for next season if we can find the right player. The Washington Wizards are willing to move. Move is as Thomas or Smith for a team with point guard. Help Jordan McRae. If there's a team that needs some scoring Davos batons isn't available. His huge part of our future. Unless you put at least a solid I with some upside in play We cannot go into the tax. We are three point. Five million dollars below that right now. The LA LAKERS Much like the clippers hoping to add someone who could be a part of our closing five except for the whole parts about having two thousand twenty first pick available and lots of matching salary rockets rockets here were always gonNa Chase Stars this year were particularly looking for better forward. Somebody who can defend ideally also shoot. All our draft picks are on the table or doing whatever takes to win a championship. This season of we happen to get under the luxury tax line. That'd be a total fluke accident. The Minnesota Timberwolves are are looking for our creator of the future and initiator ball handler and we are willing to listen to offers on Robert Cummington but we are not planning to trade him so impresses us the Golden State Warriors are looking to trade a ball handler in creator of the future to some team for a superstar We're are also also looking to move Kevon Looney and Alec Burks and possibly Jacob Evans without taking back any salary and returned to get out of the taxes year and out of the repeater tax for next year We are willing to trade the ethics that we have that will not be specified to make that happen. And that's it for Norlin Norlin milkins would like to convert their expiring contracts into longer term salary mavericks. Here we'd like to trade for Willie Cauley Stein an idea. I totally had I before. It actually happened and I'm not bitter that they stole that right out from under me. But you've got the receipts on this one. It also like to add a defensive wing conditional playmaker may be a deal one player. The Miami Heat are looking to add players who can be a part of our present and our future her without why we can't go over the hard cap and we're right at it so we can't add salary for this season and if we could get out from under some of our bad contracts for next year here we would want to do it. But we don't really have the assets to offer them so we'll probably just sit here and smile. The New York Knicks are making available pretty much. Everyone one who is not Mitchell Robertson and RJ Barrett. Marcus Morris. We are looking for a first round. Pick for him and then Taj Gibson Wayne Ellington. Lincoln Reggie Bullock Bobby Portis Julius randle Alfred Peyton and Dennis Smith Junior. Maybe a little bit different of a category there but a lot. The guys available for this team despite Friday's thrilling win in San Antonio the Phoenix Suns a realistic about our playoff chances with the NBA hardest schedule the remainder of the season. So we realistic. I know realistic. That's unrealistic so we will consider selling on on Aron Baynes and Doria with both of them. Impending Free agents nets here. It's pretty glaring. We need one more piece to more pieces. The Philadelphia Seventy sixers are looking to build the best possible team for this year. That probably means different. Looks options but we WANNA keep our main players players together so they'll be moves more on the margins if we can make them happen the Detroit Pistons are reluctantly going to make all star center. Andre Drummond avilable and we also are reluctantly looking to trade all star candidate. Derrick rose. But we're looking for somebody significant there because he's our only draw. Aw Bright Spot We can't take any salary to go above the tax we are right up against it We would also take on longer term money for Reggie Edgy Jackson. If an asset came with it and again we can't go over the luxury tax. So and Markeith Morrisville. We'd also like to potentially move Kyri Thomas if team like to take him to open up a little maneuvering room Below the tax the Portland Trailblazers are hoping to convert expiring contracts in a longer term salary specifically looking to add a long-term option at small forward and also cut a luxury tax bill in the process without sacrificing our competition for the eighth seed lead in the Western Conference. The San Antonio Spurs want to continue our long playoff streak we WANNA maintain kennesaw. We're not going to ignore calls about our stars but we're not going to be listening that that closely either. The Chicago Bulls are willing to listen to offers on twenty nineteen signings thaddeus young and Thomas Sarangi. But we're willing to keep them to both of those guys is our part of theoretically our president and we'll we'll also listen on Otto Porter team is interested there with his player option. The Cleveland Cavaliers are reluctantly going. To make all star power forward Kevin love available but only because rebuilding and not. Because he doesn't WanNa be here anymore. who had also happily move are expiring contracts for money for next year if the price is right We've got Tristan Thompson. Available there Brandon Knight. John Henson Matthew Della Vedova the illuminaries avilable for your expiring contract pleasure. Other Toronto Raptors are not looking to trade any of the several veterans. Who helped us win the two thousand nineteen NBA championship a sense that we cannot say often enough but we would be looking to clear? Norman Powell salary off our two thousand twenty one books if we could get back a wing who can also help us now. It has a shorter contract. And maybe even a little overpaid oh get ready for some hate. Mail Kevin The grizzlies plan to trade not by out Andrei Ebola. We want to maintain our good vibes. Maybe Trade Jae crowder would not a certain as we once were and maybe even trade for now but we're not going to get carried away with that. DNA Pacers Acer's are largely going to keep the band together. We still want to see how this all works with victory depot. If somebody somebody's going to have to Bolus over for milestone we are not intending at all to trade him right now are two teams left here the Charlotte Hornets also willing to take on long term money for expiring contracts for price. And we've got Marvin Williams available double business. biondo Mega Gilchrist's Willie Hernan Gomez. Maybe if anyone is interested in a backup backup center dwayne Bacon as restricted restricted. Free agent maybe could be available if someone has been interested in him and if somebody's looking for a center under contract for next year CODY'S L. Utah Jazz. We already won the trade deadline. We Got Jordan Clarkson and we've been the NBA's best team ever since it gets. The Western Conference is best team. Milwaukee's probably still ahead of us but we're not. We're not rest on our laurels. We would still like to add a front court backup for anybody who doesn't consume everything. Kevin Pelton says and writes. He is very much against the idea. That turned Clarkson Clarkson the reason the jazz are not winning. Just wanted to get that out there. I think that was the only private conversations publicly but yeah he's the reason it was twenty five point four narrating when he's not on the court Jordan Clarkson allows them to consolidate every other good player on the team into every three lineup. When he's not up? I think we break here. 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That's Indochino Indochino DOT COM Promo Code Cafes for thirty dollars off your told purchase of three ninety nine or more get high quality custom suits for an off the rack price at Indochino Dot Com and forget that cap space code to let them know that you came from us so the way we try and do this obviously the temporal aspect of it. You can't do this with only four of us. There'd be a lot of calls going on simultaneous this but we try to put it in order here so that some of the biggest domino's are taking care of I whether they're they're available whether they're not because that is going to affect things further down the line so who would like to give it a shot. I here with Some I'm a your bigger players that you might be thinking about moving to just kind of get an idea. What the market is that? If in fact You're willing to make that known thunder here. We're not anticipating moving Chris Paul but he is an important calibrated. Russ if somebody gives us a big offer that will change the way we think about it. I don't know Houston. You WanNa do Russell Westbrook for Chris Paul and you can give us another to trump picks. That terrible of a generally would be would be the price for for Chris. Paul here I mean I know. He's got this huge contract going forward. Everyone knows that the forty four million dollars for the twenty one twenty two season I mean. Are you just straight up giving him away. No we we. We consider him a pretty close to neutral but may be a slight positive asset. It would depend on how much salary relief they have. The unusual part about the thunder is. Yeah it's great to have cap space but we don't have these insane aspirations like we're GonNa get get a an elite player with that so we were happy to keep Chris Paul Round. It's not it's not an urgent thing. So if the salaries Costa metric maybe a like a modest asset. I said a young player. WHO's interested in us? We'd love at first but we don't think that's realistic. So if anybody has an offer will listen bucks not here let me grumble again about the real life things that interrupted this mock trade deadline. I really plan to have a package ready to go for Chris. Paul for Milwaukee. I think you can't trust Eric. Let's on the playoffs. Playoffs might be good enough. But you can't trust him there and I thought it made a lot of sense But the bucks have been so vehement about not trading Eric Bledsoe. I do believe them. Wizards zere what would you need to take on John Wall for Chris. Paul everything I mean I mean that is that is awesome. How we are we are getting a point guard a worse contract? We just traded away Russell Westbrook and John Wall is injured right now. No it would be. I don't know that you have the assets to make that happen especially because you can't trade Bradley Beal Olga. I think those are dealing one of a and again you actually would like what would date future Dallas first round pick plus expiring contracts interest from next okay so so in that Cosmos go ahead and say that is that is actually really interesting because then you get out of that money but that's such a such a okay. There have been some reports. Our jobs could be in danger. We need a win more games we've got to solidify the situation here in New York. What which which of your assets because we could turn some of those into into other assets at would you? Why a future doubt? Would you know like what I'm saying is when Marcus Morris be a part of your would he be a part of the salary coming to us how you know. I don't think so because we'd want to. We think he's worth I done. So okay we just take a break from the A it ask the peanut gallery. This is not something I think the thunder would do. But don't we all agree that that would actually be kind of a smart risk of wooden move from their part. Yes yeah. I mean from a long-term perspective. It'd it'd be tough to Give away any chances competing this year but well but you probably still make the playoffs. You have got enough cushion right the right match with the right match in the place with Chris. Paul you have a chance at a first round upset without of not really. Yeah I mean we'd be talking of unlike Bobby Portis Taj Gibson Wayne. Ellington is an like Peyton rostrums on us because yeah roster spots. Although the low end of the thunder's roster is yeah. I mean we we can just take back. Burton their lobby ways to make your get you out of the tax this year too. Yeah so here's how all this all as me as Danny Larue. I that's the type of trade that even though. I Love Chris Paul that I would do however I do not think Sam Prestige would. I don't think that's where they see it. So I'M GONNA I'm GonNa side with the same prestige part of me and and project that and don't we think like the Knicks would do that in the off season if they're interested right. I mean I guess the job saving aspect but you can. Maybe there's a window around draft time. I mean who knows how the Knicks are gonNA move on Steve Mills. Or if they will at all but maybe you can bet on it being there in the offseason and do get whatever satisfaction out of this. You'll get with Chris Pot and still be able to do something in the summer when the Knicks don't get any other star. Yeah Yeah you know. And actually ultimately the Knicks wouldn't do that though because it would it the money that goes into it would capsize twenty twenty one plan But I mean the New York moral hazards might do it in that they are. That's what Okay so so. You'll take out for for Chris Paul. They're like Utah would have been an interesting one when they were struggling ruling The the forty four million in twenty two or twenty one twenty two is a big issue for them. Because that's when Donald Mitchell's extension kicks kicks in and Rudy Gobert potentially supermax at that point as well so you know financially. It probably wouldn't work but Conley for Paul Trade would have been really interesting before they started. Did Wendy older games. This is where I can mention that one version of the the bucks packages I'd laid out was using Conley's step ladder and Blitzer would have gone to Utah and then I by then. The bucks would have flipped Conley for Chris. Paul but not happening while this one player in and we're already lamenting the deadline. PODCAST Miami not interested in Chris. Paul little it's just too hard to make all the to make all the all that work route twenty two at the two thousand twenty one is is a killer there right and also we're so close to get the hard cap and so we have to. It's not only just matching salary. It's exceeding salary. And and that's that's a little bit difficult for Miami like that through a version of this in the trade machine The Chris Paul to New York trained. And somehow that made the Knicks. Worse according to this uh-huh making deception every trade somehow. I'm Chris Paul would he go on. Maybe there's some flaws in his game that we didn't see uh-huh so okay see what are you thinking about doing with the rest of your players. I mean if you're GONNA hold on and Chris Paul. I'm guessing you're trying to compete this year. You're better than you thought you'd be Are you still test the market for some of these other guys that you have. Yeah I would say. Galadari is to us the most the one that we're most willing to trade because he is depending on restricted free agent. There's a lot of the things he competitors. We might bring back. Who knows but I would say for a For reasonable asset. I would love to be a late. First-round pick but if it's a strong second in a player of of note we would consider it Especially because a Gallo the move could get us under the luxury tax. which is something we'd prefer? Yeah I don't think any of my teams would be interested there. I Let me think about it for for the magic. And he'd be also want to make an offer what you do that or why do that our team to sort of move on because we were assuming the Gallo with unlikely move anyway. I either one of my teams. I've thought about something with Minnesota but the problem is the return because Minnesota They basically we have crab. And that's just such a huge downgrade that it's it doesn't really count. Yeah Portland I the not interested in Gallo anymore. If they were. I mean we really need a small forward can't defend small forwards. At this point he could defend everyone. Kevin okay very optimistic. Take so Gallo. I guess for each of these guys who doesn't get traded. It becomes less likely that the next one does. Because you're GONNA more down the path of just trying to compete this year. It not like yeah and if somebody will as Oklahoma City if somebody changes their mind our gala just reach out and we'll see what the terms we sat are basically the the terms that we will accept at any point. And it's not it's not going to change because we know where we are and then with Adams and Kalahari Are Sorry with Adams Dennis Schroder again. We'll listen but we're not shutting. Adding salary is not something that's desirable Like it's it's not an important part of this because we're doing that so they need. They need to be seen as as positive assets and so if a team was wound to treat treat them as such then we'll listen but otherwise no thank you. Atlanta would have some interest in Stephen Adams like how positive or you talking in terms of assets coming back. I know he hasn't been great this year ear but cameras feels like somebody that we could do something with as he is he available or is it are you thinking more will run that Moore Lauren than that Okay okay so I because because you're low rent assets aren't exactly the most intriguing unless you're thinking future like or you think he'd draft picks because obviously we know her her and hunter are above love. Reddish pecking order. I would correct one thing we were thinking potentially returning to you. The portion of your two thousand twenty two first round pick. You traded us in Dennis Schroder deal. Okay interesting hawks. De'andre member available wing. Who can't shoot their prestige catnapping? It's just got roby. I mean in how many the end the answer is that are more than pursuing so so basically that's that I it's We it conveys it conveys if we make the playoffs and then it becomes seconds if it if it doesn't it is top twenty protect top twenty protecting only a single single season. Yeah I love doing that. Osama Prostate You really do. I really do This is another one of those like challenging ones. As Oklahoma City Adams makes twenty seven point five million for next year and so. How are you proposing? This deal happens because you don't have this much cap space so you're just using like Chandler. Parsons or something you let me correct myself. By the way that is it is lottery protected. Goes to us if you guys make the playoffs in twenty two so you know it gives you the chance to compete. If by that point you're rebuilding it. Also it. Also I mean we have other picks that can protect with Steffi and rules but it does allow some latitude to trade our own. which is someone is so the construction? We could go in terms of salary. It would probably be Parsons or potentially Evan. Turner and Alex Len Could you do Jesse 'cause he could. He could help. Could you don't have enough quick cards. We can always use more point guards dammit Emmett thinking Turner and who is the other guy. Alex Len so that way you fill in that center rotational event but we do and we roster spots okay so the last spot get under the tax on both of those considerations. I think that the the person's version would not quid. Not Quite yeah I I. I was liking the other one better. Anyway work with Len Lennon. Turner with that get you. Yeah of salary can we is there. Is There Chris. It doesn't have to be like your second this year but is there that like one small thing coming back would help. Is there anybody that you have their two thousand twenty six second round vic shirt all right. Well what we're here. We should at least call Detroit about Andre Drummond and see what they're thinking. I think we prefer. I think Stephen Adams is a better fit it for us both contractually and player wise but just just curious would detroit is thinking with Andre Drummond. Well we would need to get a first round pick very significant young player back for him. What do you think about that? Oklahoma City is I mean. I guess if we're if we're doing that either way than than yeah. I think we'd probably rather do Stephen Adams. Yeah I mean it is unfortunate it makes us a little bit. It makes us a little bit worse but we think we can. We can replicate it close enough and we'll make like the playoffs this year anyway. How did you guys I? That's a deal I'm willing to do. I'm wounded to sign off on it but if there is any like thought vetoes from anybody else that you think you think vehemently gently the other way let me know. I thought but I'll keep it to myself here. I don't Wanna I'll I'll save it until the until afterwards it's not. I don't think it's totally totally unrealistic. Same I mean. It's interesting because this was not a deal. I had my board is Atlantic off but it actually does. I think make more sense than the ones that I did have at center for them ver. Okay see the my issue. Is this kind of the weirdest way to get under the tax because that actually does make us materially worse and it's not like it's you know what I think our pull out because I think that the the the problem is like seems part of the reason it makes sense for your book says the same reason make sense for mine is that it's one more year and then you're out and and then maybe he ends up costing money. Who Cares and okay sees books are finding for next year? That getting out of that money doesn't really help us that much. So what was the asset. Set those going to be going back again. So Atlanta's giving up an asset to get him right twenty second And the in the protection of Bagel basically basically we get back the second half. That is pretty good though getting so basically okay see owes Atlanta already a twenty twenty two second that only conveys if the thunder make the playoffs playoffs. So twenty two. I Twenty six twenty two I start and so basically that it would it would be. It doesn't conveyed all is basically so we get we get back that kind of like the the Pacers Elford Peyton trade from a pace. The sixers offer Peyton train rolling back to him when he was owed. So basically. It's O K. C is now free to make the playoffs in two thousand twenty two without giving up there Pec correct and and we don't Lena's twenty six second but from the Hawks Tampa Golden State in the Hawk standpoint. Like that's probably that's probably not going to convey in twenty twenty two. I mean we'll see where the thunder are in their rebuilding process. At that point. You got assume that a lot of the guys that are helping them make the the playoffs now are not going to be a part of that team. Or if it's Chris Paul or not going to be at the same level two years from now yeah so so really the appeal. There is that it would give the thunder under cap space this summer. Yeah which which doesn't really have that much appealed us. Yeah so basically the question here is. Would you rather have Steven Adams for twenty seven million or twenty seven million in cap space this summer. That's that's with. These two teams are wrestling with right now. It S The Golden State Twenty Twenty six second and the the unlikely to convey first rounder. Probably the first riders a little more valuable to me. But it's you know might be close to pay what you think the thunder's chance of being in the playoffs and twenty twenty tour. You're it does turn into multiple second round picks in that case they wouldn't necessarily be that you're they don't come until two thousand twenty four inch twenty twenty five so we are potentially essentially not getting seen anything from the straight until twenty twenty four all right but anyway now that we determined what it is. No one wants to do it. Lisa wants to do it but yeah I think I think I'm GonNa pull out just because the benefits to okay see or so so marginal and lay. He's an important portent part of what they're doing so I'm going down doing all those those who want to do the drumming part of this now or save that for later. Let's we could talk Drummond here if you if you guys right. Yeah I mean that's what we're looking for is I mean. He's an all star center so we we can't just give up an expiring contract. We got to be able to say who are owner that we got something significant that can be part of our rebuild. Going forward here. I mean you can sell your idiot first round pick in this construction of the trade which which I think for you guys is. You're not I mean someone else feel free to chime in Europe. There's another team but I don't think you're GonNa do better than that are you. This is more advanced. We'd would have that tumbleweed Sandra right now. I would like to call up. Andre Drummond agent and ask him if he is still planning to opt out this summer. y'All yeah I I can't really say whether that's going to be the case or not. You know we gotta just Just take a little look at the market here and that'll they'll determine it for us so I'm GonNa tell my client to do what's best for him I. We've taken a look at the market. It doesn't seem great so you know if you agree now that you're just going to pick up that option. He would make us more comfortable making this trade yet as Atlanta yes. I'm angry drug as Andre Assistant. He sounds like what would want is an extension entin. Yeah about that. I think we'd rather play it out and see where you and we are in the summer of two thousand twenty one. I think that would be the best outcome for both of US speed once once being traded. You can't really extend for longer than a year anyway. Also have a trade bonus eight percent trade bonus as a incentive tip to try to get this trade dot. They also do a wink. Wink nudge nudge kind of thing. where it's understanding but it's not formally agreed to well let's get back to the to the assets here I think you can assume that Andre Drummond is going to do. What's best for Andre Drummond this summer and you never know who's what's going to be available bowl? I negotiated that player option for a reason and I I can't give it away right now so however that I like like being in Detroit Necessarily need to leave there. So we'll I mean in Atlanta. If you're willing to say that you'd want to give me a long term contract attractive. I opt out this year along the lines of you know over twenty million a year for at least three years the neil that. I would kind of wink wink on that. But if you're not willing to say that you do that then you know would certainly be testing the market. I would say favorable. You're gonNA find the market so Back to my Detroit guys here Atlanta the the price is always the same. It's your first rounder significant young prospect. I mean you've heard offer. I don't think ruling to go farther than that. The offer being the Protected first rounder from o'casey that you just said it was very unlikely to convey. Yes one in the same but that you can sell your fans is Gideon first round pick in this deal. which is this Bryan Colangelo? Are you Watching tapes of Neuro L.. Trade press conference here. I don't think that's going to get get it done as an Ala.. We'll see what else develops Sara on the market for him Because the I mean. That's you know this is why we broke off the talks with you in the first place because you weren't really able to offer anything significant. Yeah two two seconds Oklahoma City four years from now probably not going to get them. So how did we get here. Oh Yeah Stephen Adams anyone else. So you're making available at this point. Oh Casey I think all of other stuff is lower end so I think there are there other players to go are any other teams with kind of real higher end lower end also her players available that you're even willing to sniff around about a little bit totally quietly without the media Fighting Trust is very important. Obviously Raptors here. We are inclined to hang on to our group but you know if someone were willing to give us a pick that we would. Would you know a reverse protected. So it's guaranteed to be in the lotteries starting in two thousand twenty one because we don't like this year's draft for Kyle lowry we'd be interested in talking about that. None of my teams are interested where rebuilding lower doesn't do anything press Larry's not a great for my teams either of my teams either. What do you need a point guard? Maybe maybe maybe there's a lesson right there that's fine with us with Marcus own Serge Ibaka. You know we'd at least probably need a good second thinking about moving those just two guys again the not my rebuilding teams are not interested. Their clippers here. Can we circle back with you. After a few other things happen. Sure we're not going anywhere. Okay because we we are. We have the seconds to make that work. But we don't have a ton of matching salary so we need to see a few other conversations. Okay Pelicans here again we just got Zion Williamson back. He's only played by the time. This podcast comes out presumably. Three Games. we want to see how you fit with the rest of our team. We don't WanNA break things up. We hope to be competitive. We think we can still make the playoffs this year and hoped to be competitive next year. But if somebody really give us a young player with clear all-star potential or for a pick that we would expect to land in the top five beyond this season in other first round pick. Then we'd be willing to talk about jrue holiday conceptually Minnesota Oughta Philadelphia boats interested but won't meet that price among my own teams. The nuggets are interested. But we're not willing to vote Michael Porter Jr. and I don't think we have anything else that meets that criteria Tairea. Yeah my teams. Don't want to go that high form. Either I mean part of the thing about a holiday. Trade is like most of these trades. Are you trade star in prime. I am for multiple picks or multiple young players or some combination thereof the. Pelicans just already got all of that for any Davis. So there doesn't seem to be the same incentive for them to the trade jrue holiday unless he's really unhappy and once out next season before his two thousand twenty one player option. Yeah the only thought that I had is Miami which to me. Actually actually has an underrated trove of good assets. Now you know depending on what you think of hero. And Duncan Robinson Kendrick done and Dirk Jones junior but again more the quantity approaching the quality. Unless you're really I on on Tyler here I don't know if I would put him in. That likely. Future All star category just yet and I'm knocking forgot Bam for drew right would you. WHO WOULD FIT I? Yes okay and pels. Are you kind of holding on to your vets like Gras Radic. Nick and Derrick favors presumably foretich. You know maybe if you willing to offer first round pick in the lottery this year or that we expect to be in the top twenty. Next year we'd consider consider something but if it's just you know. Contending team offering US their first round pick for. Jj redick than that's not GonNa get it done. Well it sounds like there's nothing imminent minute happening there but I clearly expect something to be imminent for all star. Kevin love still producing on the points and rebounds category shoots while from three championship level player. That you can. That is literally true as twenty sixteen So you know I. I don't want this getting out publicly but he is very respectfully you know he's always been even for the team and trying to build in Cleveland but he is very respectfully through his agent indicated that while he loves IT IN CLEVELAND HE wouldn't mind a trade lead to a a contender and solely. Because we want to do the right thing for him and not to any other pressures We are reluctantly making him available available as long as we can get back some kind of a positive asset you know in the in the first round. Pick up category yes. It's a problem because the the Suns Blazers are both wondering what other what other first round picks you might be reluctantly Maki available with him for us to take on his salary. Yeah so this would be for just for a straight up expiring contracts Yen Portland's cases on whiteside in Phoenix his case some combination of Tyler. Johnson Frank Kaminsky and whatever else that would be needed to make it work. Gabby we are as the cavaliers gotTa Butts Five billion below the tax right now and we WANNA still have some maneuvering room to just signed guys to ten days and stuff as the season goes on so we can't take on that much money for him. I mean Bill Phoenix in particular would would be able to add salary. I don't think that would be an issue yet and we actually only have a thirteen roster players right now we may take on a a little bit more there You say you're saying Could you make Dario Charlottesville. No He's too valuable. Oh Yeah I mean I just I gotta come back. Doc was something here for all star Karen Love even if it's kind of wink wink. We know it's not that amazing but just something that could be sold to some degree here. I mean if it's if it's value neutral is the sun's we'd rather go into next season is the only team like legitimately in the playoff. Mix that that has substantially more than mid level cap space and we think we can run free agency and is disappointing. Free Agency is. It's actually sneaky strong in terms of power our forwards next year. So we're not super excited on the Kevin love deal you know he would definitely help us know until Phoenix that the grizzlies exist by the way. I don't think they're in the market for a power for it in Portland Stamp Floyd like take you on. Love would push pushes into the luxury tax next season You know it'd be come. Dramatically Leagues there's an outside chance we can avoid repeater tax at any point here if we get out of the tax this year and frankly we think that small forward is a bigger need for us than power forward because at this point we decided that Zag Collins is a power forward Yousif nourishes our center where we have a need. What is it? Small forward will is Neil. O'Shea saying that they have a needed forward. I don't think we're not saying that publicly. That's Turtleneck the Okay so so blazers phoenix the only ones interested in love Celtics here You know if you would do a love love for Gordon Hayward swap and you could sell it as. You're getting a younger all-star Gordon Hayward but we're definitely looking for a prime pick back for taking out love salary. Yeah Yeah I mean. What's the prime pick like? One of our I. I can't do obviously Having there's just there's no reason to I mean I think we'll probably just hold onto him at this point and and He can continue to be the awesome veteran leader and mentor that he's been His entire time Over these last over this rebuild you it makes it through this year healthy one fewer years of salary only three left after that and maybe some so bad contracts will get signed and we could. We could take those back. It doesn't seem like anyone has any. Ah Yup the the construction would need to be taking zone back for even worse salary and maybe getting a pick as well but the dog just as an asset speaking. If even worse owlry Minnesota here how would you feel about Andrew wiggins straight up Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love we because wiggins is younger and has more room to improve we would like something modest and return. We think that maybe Kevin Porter Jr. would that be. Would that be acceptable out. Kevin Porter orders. Union is our our future at what about what about either sexton were Darius Carlin. What direction are we going? Are we like I realized that injury gins younger. But he's never been good ever in his career and Kevin Love is still a good player he was good for a couple of weeks like a a month or two ago and plus he'd be returning back to his roots as a as a Cleveland Cavalier draft. You could sell that you could sell that to your fan base. You could all you could it. You could show the pictures of him in the hat and him playing that one similarly give you have him on the cover of sports illustrated. I'm coming home. Think of how much money could be made by reprising. A new version of that swing Man Jersey commercial where where they give them the cavs Jersey when he's already been treated now. You can get that Jersey again please. Someone mock up up in Photoshop. The Andrew Wiggins. I'm coming home. Sports illustrated but yeah. That's a deal. I think is intellectually interesting. It's something that came up Up doing doing some work for the athletic but I think that I think that it's just. It's too sticky for those teams actually make something work. Also wiggins eleven towns create some problems to on one four other end pretty glorious well. So let's let's stay with Minnesota here and go the other direction. which is Minnesota would like to talk to the Golden State Warriors about one gentle Zhanjiang Russell? Who already spurned us? Once and we now were still interested in him now already kind again. I hear our Karl Anthony. Towns really wants out of there. You WanNa do Russell for towns. Have you heard about Andrew Wiggins. He had a really good couple of weeks a few weeks ago. Yeah I mean we could do Russell and are twenty twenty twenty first rounder for crawls towns we are not trading Karl Anthony towns. The whole point is to pair those two players together so we are. We will not include Karl Anthony towns at any trade for Daniel Russell. If few are willing to engage us on a trade involving wiggins or involving Robert Covington we can do it but those are the only two primaries that no. I think the reason we made this deal for Russell all is number one. We think he's good. He can absolutely play extremely well with Klay Thompson and Steph curry and that means absolutely nothing that we've been a a ten win team. That's been worse with him on the floor of this year but number two because he is a big enough salary and we have these other assets where we can move him him. He's really our only way to take back a real significant Max contract so a unless we are getting a Max player that has also attached that Max contract We're not willing to move him at this time. Especially now that we have this high first round pick in twenty twenty that we could add to him to really get the next superstar. Superstar becomes available. Okay we'll talk to you in June. Yeah when Karl Anthony towns ass out your even have even less leverage at OBI grit still under contract. We're not worried yeah. I guess there's not really much threat of him not trying on defense because that's already happening. He doesn't really have any other south to pull out together. You gotta there All right well this. We're not getting a lot done here. But we gotta get through some of these These bigger names here So speaking of not not getting a lot done here Department rose the LAMARCUS. Aldridge are. I'm the Spurs. Were not pitching them. We're not selling them If somebody wants to talk about it we're not going to hang up. Did intimate the other day. That you guys. I might be willing to move. What are those guys for a good first round impact? Not just you know an end of the first round type of pick so Presumably those are a are in theory. Still your thoughts Pelicans. Here what kind of draft F- pick. Would you need if the construction. Were Derrick favors Nicolo Meli and Darius Miller for Aldridge and Marco belly belly and radic together again we need to trade for Ilyasova. Yeah like A low lottery pick mid lottery. Pick something like that I'm were definitely hoping not to have in a lottery. Picks and we probably wouldn't project you want. If you're getting lamarcus Aldridge. You got those Lakers picks out in the future. I'm just warning. Twenty one lakers pick stacks up right is protected eight through thirty ask that puts it in the range. We're looking at yeah. That's a dejected. In twenty twenty two. It's tough because of the fact that that's a lot to give up for someone who is probably not a part of our long-term core and we're still such a young team but we like the fact that Aldridge Aldridge matches up with twenty twenty one timetable. We think we can have soup. Be a you know a player in free agency that summer by be by virtue of having you know by that outpoint probably a top five to ten player in the League Zion Williamson. Would if we would it would if we gave you some sort of a swap option on that Lakers peck or or maybe the best of our three picks the best of your three picks in twenty twenty one or twenty two. If the Lakers picked doesn't convey no. I think we just want that. That Straight Lakers pick where we either get the top seven picker unprotected in twenty twenty two. I mean you'll lamarcus. Aldridge has become very important into our identity as we've picked it up a little. Favors is a solid player. A but we are losing a lot of floorspace in there. And that's what's propelled US forward. I you know this is a big downgrade for us. Yeah impels pels do have some other assets As wall the whether it's a D is a planning Australia. Thirty fifth overall. We're all pick last year. Got Some Jackson Hayes. He'll Alexander Walker if you WANNA make them available but just just putting it out there for The type of guys has the grease skids here rather than the first rounder. If that's something that you might be interested in you got the two to Cleveland seconds as well that you could move yes so there might be a way that to find the value if you guys agree on what Aldridge is an important issue. I think we'd do the two thousand twenty one lakers. Just pick odds are they're still going to be a very bright and that's what I was just saying to think more about is okay we get that top seven pick. That's what we're looking for but man there's a downside risk so you know they'll solve Anthony Davis getting a low first round pick and that's not worth it. The more I started thinking about it the more I think. That's not enough counterpoint. Is it really not worth it. Well correct Trying to be in spurs mode a little bit here I mean. I don't think we're really new. Include any of our young players in the steel if it's an additional second round pick maybe we can talk about that just the more I think about that. It's just not that security thirty of a good asset there and we're not willing to take that setback in playoff race for a chance at a really good asset which be unfortunate if we passed you in the playoff race without making constrain. Oh that's the other thing. I guess didn't even think clearly enough about that that you know whatever playoff chance we'd have boosting yours. Yeah that's that's not going to be quite enough for for us. You can't trade with your own division division rival and especially as the spurs like if you believe some of the stuff about the quiet Leonard Trade reporting than US especially. We're not GONNA do that. We will trade within the same conference will worked out pretty well for US Yeah I guess. Then there may not be a fit between us OK- those I liked that thought though the new three point shooting lamarcus Aldridge really because he's added value to the Pelicans within the last three weeks here and I'll note that I thought about Aldridge for the heat but the the price like the matching salary in price just just doesn't fit. We don't have assets. That's my personal favorites. I think Aldridge would make the heat legitimate contenders and then you're still having the twenty one cap space. It's not not Chris Paul. A problem of is much as he would help. Miami would take them out of the two in one race and I presume that deal would be for your waiters and James Johnson types to equalize out the salary and then Miami had feel better about giving up an asset as well Trading away dead salary yet meet the problem. The problem is that Miami Ardoz does I in Twenty One and twenty three and all their seconds until twenty seven so it gets really hard and we're not moving Bam obviously in that trade and I think that's too much for Couin winslow probably has to be the value going back right. Yeah I mean if if they consider that if they consider that I mean when I was hearing the price you were negotiating right there. I'm like oh well that's more injustice winslow's worth but if feldman feels differently than we can have a conversation. I think you're got that was correct. Yeah I would love Aldridge on the heat as well. It's a very difficult difficult trade to do. Logistically is that all we got here on. Aldridge is it time to start the forward Yoursel Spur what about all star Demar. Marta rose it yeah Well magic here. Our concern is that he might we. Trade for many ops up. That's A. That's what our big concern insurnace with your concern as he will opt out or he won't opt out either way because if he doesn't opt out then you know he brought he doesn't have a market and it's not a great money for us so great I mean we're treating him as basically a free agent or a bad contract for next year one of the two yeah We like like Marquel fault yet. That's probably not going to happen. it would be more. We like Evan -fornia okay. Obviously there's the opt-out doubt concerned with him. Also no I think I think what it would have to be is something along the lines of top twenty protected pick in twenty twenty one that would move into seconds. What would the south the matching salary be? Though I mean we could just do. We'd we'd like to hang onto four knee a right as well. I mean because you know somebody a news looking like a a rough track now so or you know with the salary you're they're gonna be giving US value or you're going to be unloading negative salary. So that's going to affect the peck. Yeah magic would be looking at like torrents. Ross and I'll through community right so that's looking pretty negative to US Young Timber Wolves here request. Yes do you want. Would you be giving chip England. Glenn degraded challenge of his career. Now what about what about using Allen basically getting out of the player option for next year. No no no no. We want value for him. We're we're trying to make the playoffs like if somebody gives us value. Were open to it more open to it than we are with Aldridge. But we're not there's GONNA dump him. Yeah I mean what what about a so. So how much more would you need then than a top twenty protected. Twenty twenty one I I mean just getting off of Salary is going to require something terrence. Ross I don't know he's so hit or miss and but his contract was outs along with you know I. I think that's probably a negative value contract at this point. And then you're getting to Rosen. Who is a helpful player? who want something for so? We're definitely looking at the very minimum to even discuss. It is like we got to end up with a first round. Pick like it's gotta be something that in the end after the protections turns into an unprotected protected first round pick were guaranteed offers. And that's just depends on exactly how we do it if that's enough. But that's the bare minimum to have this discussion. You had just seen quite like like something we can do. May I mean Amelia's at his needier. Hopefully you could come back and play reasonably well. Ross doesn't add a great year and just where we're at as a franchise which is right now. I don't know if it makes sense to give up a I saw rule us out here on Aldridge while you can rule is out on Aldridge. Was this trade. We're all these talks for Aldridge or was it was. It was OK. Okay other big. Yeah okay We'll take another break and then we can. Maybe something will actually happen. What a satisfied segment? Let's let's see if we can move some wings here. There's gotta be some more value out there because we know that some contenders here need winks links clippers here We're interested our top two targets. Really it's a one a one B. We could go either. Direction are Marcus Morris. And Undergrad Allah. The we we have a first round pick but we would. We would really not move that in full for either of those players in isolation however both the Knicks and the grizzlies happened have other players. We are interested in so if one of those teams is willing to do. Let's say the Knicks. If you WANNA if you WANNA have a conversation with US involving Morris and Reggie bullock than we could have a conversation about it I otherwise we have some pretty sweet second staffer bucks here. We'll definitely put it in a first. Rounder for Marcus. Morris Knicks Year. We would offer kyle. Kuzma is part the package for Marcus Morris. If we could get back a second round in this part of that deal I see well. How are we going to match? The Salary Lakers so require you. Guys take taking on four players or alternatively we could call up the Hornets about using Michael Kidd Gilchrist as part of this deal because is is i. I saw John John Hollander. The athletic point out Gilchrist can be used as kind of a step ladder where it would only take three players to match salary for him. And then kill Kidd. Gilchrist could be traded individually for Morris or someone else Hornets certainly. We would waddell consideration back for Greece in the skids there. But as the Knicks six. So yeah I mean you guys would have to keep Kouzmin in that construction. I mean not have to but you know potentially could keep Kouzmin and then send us a first round pick that we would send into New York as part of that deal. I see and we can talk about. What kind of would appropriate protection would be on that? Pick well well I think we we gotta work it out here as the Knicks. I for Marcus more. So the Lakers. Your your deal is Calcutta. I mean I think I don't know if the Hornets necessarily GONNA do a first start out to be some protection there. That's a lot of negotiation. If there's a way to get US Kuzina that does really interests US box. Are you talking Patriots first round. Pick your this year. We can talk about the specifics of that because because we'd probably put. Dj Wilson the trade for salary matching We could put in maybe one of our our younger players so whether we give you that first rounder or it'd be quick we're looking to get you the equivalent value of first rounder and so we can discuss exactly exactly what that looks like in the end because we do have some young players too and clippers. So what is your offer will. We have lots of matching salary and and heartless is actually a good player. Who could who who can help you? So what what we were thinking is harmless. And then if we give the I if you will also include Reggie bullock train. So we're thinking heartless matching salary and and that for our our own I for this year. Unprotected for Morris Angola we do think Bulaq has some value on his own especially considering the only makes four million but he does but but we also have like we have Detroit's twenty twenty one second which should be pretty good. It looks you can tell how aggressively they're trying to move so we can do things like that if you if you want to do a smaller deal there. But for the first we need more than just Marcus Morris because we think we can there are so many things on the market that. If we're going to give up that I that's GonNa be something great great so and that's your own. I so Abassi looking like you know twenty eighth overall type thing. We'll we'll we'll see how we'll see. How much load management we do that might end up being more in the twenty four twenty five inch? Yeah I mean I think and so Fox like Koussa to me you know we would value him around. You know amid first rounder. So that that's the most attractive to us right now We also think he can play okay with either Randall. Or Madrid Sohn Clippers here. Good luck trying to make trade work with the Lakers. While so bucks you guys you guys are GonNa have to come up with something. That's as good as Coosa. Okay is ultimately. Whoa what we come down here to here? So that's what he's going up against. Oh okay So just just in terms of a package for Smith matching salary. Sorry you sounded lucid facto expiring contract. Dj Wilson. Nice young player dragging bender. who shown some things and then depending on what we WANNA do for the pick we could put into the NASA onto the Kubo? Janas cool with. He got to spend half the season with his brother. This is what we need are. We could also put in Sterling Brown. You can get his matching rights restricted the free agency. He has some more value where we could talk about the pick up but that Pacers pick is is in play. That's what we need to do And we're also curious how you you know if you value. Dj Wilson Dragon Bender Sterling Brown We'd because we do need to send out the salary but if we need to rope in the third team if there's a team that values those players We could reroute them there. okay anybody else. In for Marcus Morris. The other than Clippers Lakers inbox kids. The sixers would be interested but getting that high matching salary is really difficult for us. So we're focusing on less salary targets. Several of my teams rockets Mavericks. Maybe a beaver Celtics are interested. But we've gotten until that the bucks are the most interested team So this is where when one person who's representing several teams where it gets it's tricky But I do know that the bucks most motivated to make it happen yet. So so the none of those deemed would be willing to get to the level of life that Indiana. I was the Indiana I maybe even plus you know these these young players So I I just know that the bucks most motivated to make it happen. I'm I'm trying to inflate my best offer a little bit with that in mind. Yeah no the I mean that Indiana first versus coups MMA that is n d Wilson might be worth something Again how are the Lakers GonNa make this happen. Wolf Lakers here We should ask about You know whether we might be able to include players who have player options in this trade. If they're willing to sign off on a trade given that they have to approve any so Can we get the agent for contiguous caldwell-pope. Yeah you're pretty familiar with this. Would you be willing to sign off on a trade trade sending you to the Big Apple. No I don't think so. I don't think I would want to lose my bird rights potentially if I opt out and in fact I'm with this great year that I'm having and a player option and full bird writes the I I can't play ball by taking only eight million last year so no I will not be willing to waive the playoffs. Maybe you could get one of these other guys who got player option sued away there's Yeah Avery Bradley well. He doesn't have to waive his actually. He's on the wrong desperately he doesn't I don't it's hard that there's so many of them they get mixed up very easily Javale McGee now living in L. A. I don't know if you heard this but I actually like. I'm part of the click that hangs out with Lebron and and Now now I'm a I'm a same thing I'm expecting to opt out again and really get paid with these bird rights after we win the championship. This year I mean you're all sorts starting center we would never consider trading we just wanted to ask to you know for the record so if we did it with Bradley than we could make it happen with three for one trade with the necks x would that be Bradley is also are starting shooting. Guards were not Super Gung Ho about that would be Bradley cousins and Kusa. Yeah that would work. WORKED TO BRING BACK MORRIS NO tax issues for for anybody involved here. Oh Bradley's actually giving you guys value if we end up going with that construction so we definitely would need back. We Want Back Your Two Thousand Twenty Hornets Second Round Pick. That's actually a pretty good pick. Bradley doesn't do anything for us. I don't think he I don't think we can really really move him for value If you could we do a separate trade there that was like Bradley for Reggie or or that was reggie bullock for some like minimum salary. That you guys have that. Wouldn't mess up. Wouldn't require more roster spots. I guess we can't right. We couldn't do Dudley for if if the Knicks are. The Knicks are looking awful people for roster spots. They have some guys that I think. We'll we'll be able to make that work as number might teams teams would be interested so yeah I mean it's just a tough question is like do you want Kusaba. Let me think about this because I mean well you're thinking about it. We'd like to call up. The timber was because because as much as we're we've value Marcus Morris senior. He's not our first option with Kuzma. We'd put more value on Robert Covington because of the fact that he's under contract at unreasonable number for the next two seasons so timber. Wolves were not super interested in coups melt. We have Karl Anthony towns and we're looking for looking for something different so we we are open to moving Covington. But coups doesn't move the needle for US rockets. Here we are highly motivated to get Robert Cummington. And can we have the attention of Timberwolves Celtics and under our. We have four team idea to get him to Huston. I figured this is very fitting for the rocket section. Okay everybody sitting down. This is going to be three separate trades K.. The first trait is Boston will send Daniel Thais and Vincent Pori Corey Eight to Oklahoma City for Andre Roberson. The second trade will be between the Celtics rockets in Timber Wolves Roberson. We'll go from Boston now. To Minnesota Clint Cappella go from Houston to Boston. So the Celtics get the center. They've been looking for and then Covington HAVINGTON's will go from Minnesota to Houston and then the final aspect of this trade will be between Oklahoma City in Houston where the thunder will send Thais to Houston giving the rockets. It's a center that they lost in Capella for Nina. Plus a minimum salary player. We think Gerald Green would approve a trade. We'll give them a championship ring. If if we win one would welcome him back in the future. He's out for the year and just kind of figuring that. Hey you know we we all want to men on good terms so just to recap what each team is going to give and get. And then there'd be some draft cabin involved obviously but just in terms of the structure for players. The rockets are going to give Clint Cappella. Nee in a minimum salary player. They're going to get Robert. COVINGTON and Daniel ties. The Celtics would give Thais emporia and get Clint Cappella. The thunder would give give Roberson and get poor. Ya and the next day and really lower their salary. The timberwolves would give Covington and get Andre Roberson expiring contract and obviously the rockets would be adding more draft capital. The Celtics would probably be adding draft capital and the timberwolves would be getting it the thunder we can talk about but they they would be really dropping their payroll. Minnesota is not particularly interested in that left the draft capital coming back is strong like Memphis. Pick strong and more. WHOA WHOA awesome? That's what other assets to these teams. Have the rockets. Have you know maybe two first rounders I mean your first rounders are your first rounders. Are Her bottom bottom of the first two rounders for Covington yet. That's not enough. Well I mean they're going to be the one of them is probably GonNa be this year and this year's draft isn't that inspiring and okay and then the other one in twenty twenty three twenty twenty two. Excuse me well. It's more interesting if we push that other one out a little longer. Can we like twenty five now the road or they can't be because of the Westbound Trade Blazers here. We are also highly motivated Kit Robert Covington and we can offer you a first round pick with more upside this season. Well are twenty twenty a two first. Rounder probably has more upside than Portland's this season especially Portland Getting Covington Lake in terms in terms of the draft. Things we just discussed A. I don't think Boston's Asan's putting in the Memphis pick for this bosses. Probably you know they're getting cappella. That is not the same motivation. They'll add something the pot but in terms of things on the table. But I think Houston's twenty twenty two pick has the highest upside yeah that's probably true. Okay so we use that Boston. Would you be willing to throw in like like overlay or Romeo Lankford. Somebody somebody who has not like your premium guys. We're not asking for over Williams or anything but somebody who could potentially opposite a little bit. I mean you're getting. Click apologised allardice deal. That's a pretty transformational change for you in terms of adding players. That took us a long time to figure out exactly how this would work. So we were thinking. More draft picks but uh-huh maybe odelay we know one Langford. Maybe we also kind of want to save him for matchups in the playoffs this year. He has an element. We don't have above you know for a few minutes again. Potentially we don't know exactly how it helped you now so I just kinda doubt okay. So so the draft. Pick compensation with say okay. Better letter I it. Okay I mean 'cause to me the the the Celtics are getting a pretty good deal here so right right no no we We have the the bucks first round pick like like that's the level where we think. Okay okay so yeah this is. This is framework has Minnesota that I'd be willing to accept. So maybe if you've got the Bucks First Round Pick the rockets twenty twenty two pick. Is that what you're hoping for three but if you want it to be too and then maybe just somebody. That's interesting from one of these teams. I don't think we need to spend too much time. Maybe like a second round or something and then I I guess from Oklahoma City's perspectives. This salary dropped good enough. Yes absolutely yeah we all. We're giving up his Roberson Jason. WHO's sadly not playing for so? Yeah that's Fine Blazers. Here how do you feel about if any Simon's Simon's is interesting He you still really raw and to me. He looked more like a score than a distributor. But we could use scores but Simon's to me was we're looking at. Maybe that rockets rockets pick could end up being better. Maybe they have a shaky year. The bucks pick probably isn't going to be great but that's you know that's okay a teams involved. Can we make it. The better of the Celtics taken the rockets pick whichever one and then the other. The other team gets the other one just in case Celtics here Like well so they'd be coming from different teams as the. Yeah so one team gets the the we get the best one and then whoever gets because So in this version the wrong and it's an outlet that's a minor thing I was just thinking of a way to potentially create but on Sir Simon's part as Minnesota. We're interested in him but this return is better than Simon's unless you're adding him to your first round pick in which case that is better. Yeah probably were not willing to go up. And on this year's unprotected in Simon's we do one or the other but not both. Would you be willing to if it was. Let's say top ten unprotected. I mean we were really thinking Simon's was in it that it would become the two thousand twenty one first round. Pick Okay so then so than twenty twenty one you'll be you'll the healthier that year Are you thinking unprotected though are would if we did top for protection okay. So I've got to go back into the because that is they to me of meaningfully better asset than the Than that rockets pick because the rockets are GonNa be better than the blazers next year. Do you guys agree Twenty twenty two. Do Right so yeah the Rock might be better next twenty twenty two. I mean rackets got some have some downside potential there what what have we did. Top four protected twenty twenty two and also added our twenty twenty picks. You're getting three first rounders now. That's better for Robert. It wasn't for the rockets. This is for Robert Covington and getting out of the tax and creating a enough and we gotta unload another minimum salary player in here for doing this. Uh Minnesota's willing to take on that part. That's fun yeah. And then we're getting far enough under the tax where we solve our mid level exception. We can be a powerful for buyout players So it's not just Robert Covington for us. It's Robert Covington and the tax yet. Minnesota's on both teams are in rockets and Celtics are in beat three trades at once right I is able. We're going to do the rocket strategy. We're not gonNA ask just presented to the NBA. Endear them to say no all right. So what do what do we have here. Let's let's get a summary. Okay Danny correct me if I've got this wrong. So for the rockets. They're going to give Clint Cappella. Nee Gerald Green and let's say South Alosha they're going to get Robert. COVINGTON and Daniel Types of the rockets are also giving up their twenty twenty first round. Pick their twenty twenty two first-round pick top four protected both of those going to Minnesota. The Celtics are giving up a Thais Emporia and the box first round pick and they're getting Clint Capello The thunder are giving up Roberson. And they're getting away and name and then the timber wolves are giving up Covington and getting Roberson in and all three first round picks are never agreed here. Can I come on. This is the one who is not involved evolved. My two teams are J.. KP He's not involved either but yes you can above the video. Yes yeah I mean Capellas. Good still I mean. I think he's at least a properly paid starting center so to give up that you're twenty twenty I in your twenty twenty two verse to get Covington Entice and get out of the tax. I guess but that is a as a heavy price to pay. The rockets are now completely leveraged and while hoping to recoup if some of this in the post buyout market because now we do have some spending power at Ya got about five million of your mid level exception left. Yeah an ad how much space below the tax like two point nine million or so if I did that right Maybe in this trade we make you take Hartenstein or Tyson Chandler to Oh. I didn't take out Gerald Green so now we're like four and a half million under the tax just as we did it and you get away from those terrifying cappella incentives. It's actually do. We're going to get to a point where Tillman for today's Personally go to Russell Westbrook and say yes to start. Screaming Creamy Clink Cappella did not get any more defensive rebound yourself. Now's Boston's from. But I I just can't believe the rockets got under the tax. What a fluke? Well I. I can't believe that the expectation as the as the wolves was especially once we were seeing where the market was going was that Robert Covington was not but then all of a sudden. Somebody's like holy crap. We got real blue-chip asset for him so the blazers have to regroup because rubber Covington bizarre on our plan and our plan and our plan sees same with the rockets and that might motivated us to add more. I didn't draw the construction of taking back Jiang salary much for the wolves. Just because he's he's he's Negative value. But it's not like we're going to. I don't think anybody's going to be falling over themselves and signed with the Timber Wolves this summer that would surpass that offer. No I mean that's that was a ton I mean. We got three first picks for over COVINGTON. Daryl Morey doing garrison Rosa's quite the favor of in this. This seems to me to be OSS overvaluing Covington a little bit more than the general market would well and too I would say to an extent undervaluing Capella but I think that the the Celtics do really wellness deal two or article for I mean the thing to be about Comington. Is You know eighths. He's a good player first off. He's got the foreign foreign away the best contract if anyone who's GonNa get traded who could get traded at the deadline because you've got another two years at less than average starter money for him so that combination Russian and then he just fits so well everywhere particularly on good teams. I think that combination would lead him to be highly valued in practice and again. And I just you know it's not just Covington because we've seen like last year was Shumpert. The rockets get less return in terms of players because they value getting under the luxury tax. And and and. I have a question like how I think Capella is better than ties. Definitely can handle Some matchups that the Celtics would have trouble with better But how certain are we just overall as a player right now. That Capella is better than twice. I think so but I am not a hundred percent sure I I'm pretty confident about okay. Yeah I'd be excited to see what I mean. Considering Boston's defense has already been good to see what he does. He what what comes in with having him as one of the options in the front court also that allows them to be so much more patient Asian with Robert Williams. So I will do this one more time here. The rockets are giving up Clint Cappella. Twenty Twenty First Twenty twenty two. I that that is top four protected. Joe Greene and Thomas F Alosha they get back Robert Covington and a bunch of savings and digitize the Celtics. Just give up Thais Vince on portray Milwaukee's twenty twenty I which is basically fate Thirtieth overall and get cling Capella for that the wolves. Yup Robert Covington. They get tough alosha. Houston's twenty twenty Milwaukee's twenty twenty first and Houston's twenty two I top four protected and the thunder under give up Andre Roberson. He's going to the wolves and the get Vince opera. And Nee so thunder really make out pretty well here too damn straight. They do to just reduce their salary. And now poiret may be placed on the need of Actually need a backup. BEC- I mean nate and a naked play for them to well that that very many but there's the I forget exactly what. His incentives are a lot of more tied to like winning fifty two games which they're unlikely to do so that is twenty twenty one icon on twenty twenty. Twenty one contract guarantees if he's on the Roster in Oh yeah we can do that February fifteenth eight days after the trade deadline. Happy Valentine's Dick so that will do it for part one of the twenty twenty mark traded line. Check back soon. We'll have part two where I promise. Some actual trades will happen taught gel then.