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Essentially Dangerous 04.14.2020

RADIO GAG - The Gays Against Guns Show

25:12 min | 1 year ago

Essentially Dangerous 04.14.2020

"Radio gag the gains against guns show prepared a good evening and welcome to radio. Gag The games against Gun. Show radio GAG is your weekly update on how to end the national emergency of gun violence in America. I'm Sarah Jemaine Lily Anti Kersley in tonight. Show we'll have our in. Memoriam will have a gun. Violence News Update. We also have an interview that Cathy Marino. Thomas has with Lieutenant Governor of New York Kathy O. Call tonight show. We will also talk about the opportunism of the NRA. And the way they're playing on fears during a national emergency and how it will increase gun related injuries and deaths. We have an update. Well anyway I have. I need upset with you. I'm sorry hi Sir how are you? I'm great? How are you good? One of the things that we can do is being A. Wbai buddy remember. Yeah well we want you to become a wbai buddy in the name of Radio. Gag as a listener. You're already getting informed an acting in so many ways to benefit our community you are part of our activism and we're so grateful for this opportunity to get our message out and make a difference in preventing gun violence. We want you to become a radio. Gag. Wbai buddy so go to WBAI DOT ORG or call. Five one six six two six. Oh two and become A. Wbai buddy in the name of radio. Gag next up our news update New York attorney. General Tissue James as part of a Multi State Coalition of twenty five attorneys general from around the nation has called on the trump administration to enforce federal laws and stop companies from disseminating dangerous files for three D printed gun files on the Internet attorney. General James and the coalition called on the Federal Government to stop the company defense distributed from unlawfully releasing easily downloadable files with specifications for particular guns including the Liberator Pistol and a number of other weapons. Which would then give individuals the ability to manufacture unregistered and untraceable. Three D. PRINTED FIREARMS. That can be extremely difficult to detect even with the metal detector. Untraceable firearms are sometimes called Ghost guns because they lack serial numbers or any other identifying features at a time when first responders are overrun with calls related to Kobe. Nineteen companies should be working to limit the dangers. Americans face not increasing them by publishing files that will make it easier for criminals to get guns and for anyone to print unregistered untraceable and in many cases. Undetectable firearms said attorney. General James Defense distributed is attempting to take advantage of a national endemic and is hoping states will not notice it's unlawful distribution of files. It knows it is barred from disseminating or calling on the trump administration to take immediate action against defense distributed because those guns endanger every single one of us and the printing of them will only threaten to take law enforcement away from what should be the priority right now taking care of Krahn virus patients despite federal courts repeatedly blocking the trump administration from allowing for the release of these three D. printed gun files on the Internet defense distributed is now trying to take advantage of the Crow Virus Disease Public Health crisis and is hoping their unlawful behavior goes unnoticed. The company has willfully violated federal laws again making computer files for the production of Three D. printed firearms available on its website including files for firearms. That can be made with plastic and other materials not detectable by standard of metal detectors and that be printed with inexpensive commercially available. Three d printer in their letter. Secretary pompeo Attorney General Bar Attorney General. James Coalition asked the federal government's use both its civil and criminal enforcement power to stop defense distributed and insurance compliance with federal laws as both the State and commerce departments have recognized actively controlling the dissemination of these three D. printed firearms files via the Internet is in the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States' rights the attorneys general in their letter adding if the federal government fails to act. These files will be distributed widely with potentially grave consequences for national and domestic security. The efficacy of our country's existing metal detectors a ubiquitous security device in our airports schools arenas and public venues will be compromised. If you do not act in Idaho far. Republicans Defy Corona virus. Health restrictions. Ayman Bundy who led an armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon in two thousand sixteen defied? Idaho's stay at home order to hold a nondenominational Easter Service on Sunday. Lundy said if it gets bad enough in our rights are infringed upon enough. We will physically stand in offense in whatever way we need to. It was reported that the event drew about sixty people have said. They traveled from out of state. Some seem to know each other and hugged Cans no one wore masks or any other protective gear. I actually want the virus. Bundy told CNN. I'm healthy families healthy. I'd rather have it now. My body is immune to it as of Monday. Idaho who was reporting more than fourteen hundred krona virus cases and more than two dozen deaths. You are listening to radio GAG on. Wbai ninety nine point five FM. I'm Sarah Germaine Lili Anti Kersey. And now we join Cathy Marino. Thomas in an interview with our Lieutenant Governor Cathy Marino from gays against guns. I'm joined today by Lieutenant Governor Kathy. Hokkaido Hi Kenny. How are you today? Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. You guys are doing a fantastic job. We appreciate it very chance to talk my friends and gays against guns. You've been with a shoulder to shoulder and March to make sure we had good Scott Safety laws in our state and the rank flag law that we all were or so hard worked years ago and how that is so thanks. It's always great to see you as well. Well we're the best in the country and to that I have a question for you. What went into the consideration of the designation of essential businesses? We are so happy that that the governor decided that gun stores were not essential. But we're interested to know how that decision was made to do. When you're leaving stores open your. There's a lot of exposure to people from the cashiers or people stocking up the store some limit stories and retail that are open to essential businesses essential supplies. Meaning when people I how they survive. So we're talking about rotaries food. Thinking should people have health care supplies or their medicines from pharmacy or even the manufacturers of army supplies or food chain so it got down to look at real basically white people need to survive during this time and gun. Stores did not event category. We are so happy that you feel that way. Too many governors across the state have left their gun stores open claiming that they were essential businesses. So we very much appreciate New York State. Not doing that. I'd like to introduce at this point by frontier. Severally got the next question for you. So Lieutenant Governor. How are people of Color disproportionately impacted by public health threats including covert nineteen and gun violence? It's devastating to see the effect on communities of Color and realized that you know communities that have been out there for a long time not having proper healthcare available to them. Different health outcomes living in areas of higher violence because of guns into now know that the covert nineteen viruses. Really preying on namic particular. This intersection out. There were almost like the worst of the worst is coming together. And we're losing more. People of Color are dying higher rates stictly in New York City disproportionate to their numbers among the population. And that's why even before the start him. Yeah we recognize assume you've been addressing quickly. The healthcare needs and of recognition. That there's there's food desert securities in Colorado. We focused on for example Central Brooklyn where I made many announced for the governor to Address Z. Beforehand. And now we're just seeing these lines become craters in huge vaults. Were people are saying what's happening here? We almost could predict. This was coming out that committees that are subjected to the violence and stress and bad health outcomes because of societal discrimination for so long that these are areas that are crying for help and we have identified this and our number one were testing kits Testing testing availability. Were drive through testing in the Bronx and in places like means an In Brooklyn areas we can get people out more frequently chested at demanded the hospitals if they need that kind of care but also just studying this wallets going on and our administration has determined that we can team up with our department. Cows norms well health health as well as our leadership from Albany Suny Albany. They're GONNA do an intense study is what's happening and can user collar and look at. The jobs are in other words people of from blacks and Hispanic and other communities. Who are the ones on the front lines? I think were likely to be the healthcare workers. And what's where does that all about. They're the ones who transit workers. They're more exposed. It is harder for them to say. Well I'll just listen at home. Y'All collect the paycheck. They're not in those jobs that allow them to do that. Whether they're restaurant workers are now working on the carry out in running out to people's cars or stopping the streets to help them get their their. I'm hoping from this. There is recognition that these are truly essential. People and not just essential workers are essential. And you need to be focused on on their safety making sure that we give the guns off the streets that are responsible for the slaughter of our too many making sure that they have better health access you know the best healthier download them to not just be in Manhattan which should be in their neighborhoods as well and also just dietary and other ways to make sure that they have access to exercise in excess to the better jobs that would allow them in a situation like this to be the ones who can work on your laptop from home to be out there on necessarily driving a bus that they choose not to earthly better do something else yet to create more economic opportunities for now how out of this crisis so they choose to do something else. Have the workforce training. They'll have the jobs available so I think it has. This has to be an opportunity for us to equalize situation which has been skewed. Minority cuties arch law bound. Show that your office will get that done. And I'm happy to hear about. All of those initiatives in the world is going to look very different when we come back. Thank you Lieutenant Governor. We really appreciate your time and having you here to address these concerns so it's important to take a look at the NRA because we know that they play on fears during National Emergencies in order to get more membership and in order to increase their influence as a gun lobby resulting in prophets for the gun. Industry Tie you were talking about the mindset of someone like Amazon Bundy. You want to explain what? That story is Humane news again. In Oregon. Basically it was refusing to not go to church on Easter one of the things that I read that he said was. Hey look this is actually supposed to be helping people in your community and you don't want to get sick and spread. It is like I hope by saying that. Then that way I'll be immune to my family will be immune and it just seemed to be a common thread of irresponsibility won the whole point of us. Separating and isolating is to protect the vulnerable people in our lives and in our friends lives in just our community in general but to defy that by using it as. Hey it's my right. To practice my religion by right to congregate it's true or protesters as well and we use that right a lot but this is kind of the most inconsiderate time. I don't know what do you think you know. I'm glad you made that point because Bundy says on young and healthy you know. We're all strong. We're going to be fine. And that is the point. People who have strong constitution and a strong immune system are going to be fine. It's the vulnerable people that we have to protect. That's why we're staying home. We're not necessarily staying at home so that we don't get the virus. We're staying at home so that we minimize the spread by surly. That's the exact same mentality. I think he would probably use as a gun owner in you. We hear these same stories over and over again about how I'm a responsible gun owner or we've talked to vendors at gun shows and they said. Oh but I won't sell to someone unless this I'm like I know that's you and you can justify it to you but this is the whole community that's affected by gun violence. It's not just because you have your gun and when you're using it at the range or when you're showcasing its the violent part of guns that we are protecting people from N. your children who are the most vulnerable. So it's just the same as trying to protect people from a virus by sacrificing. That's what these whole world's Zada due to a certain extent as sacrifice. And then you have one person say but. I'm not going to because of this other thing. I WANNA protester this other belief I have so ammon Bundy and then We have to talk about the NRA because the NRA is exploiting these fears that people like Ammon Bundy play upon as well and they do it over and over again threw out national emergencies. And you see gun sales spike and of course the NRA wants to take advantage of all. These people make sure that they're become members of they continue with their political clout but they also are lobby. Four the gun industry and the ultimate goal there is prophets so they exploit Hurricane Katrina they exploit Hurricane Sandy. They exploit ears around Obama's election. Oh it must mean that gun laws are GonNA become tighter and stricter and I'm not going to be able to get one. I have to run out and get one now after each one of these national emergencies the NRA has their campaign and gun sales spike. And then we see a surge in Iran related injuries and deaths. And that's just goes back to what we're trying to do is reduce the amount of access. It seems that I even say people probably aren't getting their first gun. But they will in these instances that you listed they're probably getting additional guns and now I think what's unfortunate is the NRA's taking advantage of this situation to get new gun owners Because they can really really lay it on thick. I mean this is a scary time. It is a scary time and people do have fears when I went on. The inner is website they Were sponsoring a giveaway of guns and accessories. They are sponsoring and add of a a woman of color sitting in a wheelchair holding her assault rifle. Talking about how. She needs to to defend her home and her property. Well if you're not prepared to defend your stock pile of food than you might just be stockpiling for somebody else. You see this ad and you forget all about the fact that she is making herself more vulnerable by having a weapon in her home. It's an easy weapon to sell to someone who is new to guns. Didn't read magazines about them before. Or maybe it's a buyer and a are fifteen nowadays can be sold to someone who looked this as light. It's not going to give you much kickback. You can fire as much as you want. You'll eventually hit him like all of these great selling points which are repulsive us but still when someone is scared. It completely makes sense that they would buy into. Hey if this thing is easy you know you could do this little taste. I think this is a missed opportunity to talk to gun owners directly to the people that are giving them money industry that they're supporting they said. Look you're going to be home. Your children are home. These are things you need to do about your weapon thank you. Let's talk about these years. That people have and there are three that are tops in the first one. The fears that people have in during a national emergency. The reason why go ahead and buy a gun is because they're afraid of a breakdown of the social order. We have not lived through that many tragedies but we certainly see how they play out on. Tv and movies. We certainly see the. We've I've lived through riots before we've lived through that before people and turned into a mob or in modern day culture. It's not as common that we have seen small pockets of this happened. But also what we're seeing right now is you should be calming down. It should be relaxing. You should be taking advantage of this time to accomplish something else if you're if you're not already dealing with illnesses or or anything else. This is the time of the last thing you want to add to. It is that you think the world's GonNa End Mocatta look at the ways that the world is coming together going outside at seven. Pm and hearing people clap and banged pots and pans to support our of frontline workers. And she'll have been right after this show. Yeah so we're going to have to clap and the next one the top fear is the police response time. People are afraid a police. If there is an incident I need to defend my own home because the police just can't get here in time. Let's break that down a little bit. While this is my favorite topic of how militarized do we want to be at every level? I certainly see the chance of someone being a hero of the day in certain circumstances. But when you're focused your entire life off of Owen one day I get to kill someone. If there's an emergency I don't know why you want to put yourself in that state of mind but if you're afraid and somebody's telling you this is the answer once again. It's kind of tasteless. I would say responsive police to you is not being a priority is fine but if you have a gun involved in. The police are going to get there eventually. So don't be holding a gun when show up. Then here's the thing that you need to be trained light the police in which you probably aren't and if you and if you have a dog barking and if you have a neighbor that's calling you and saying you know. Hey I just saw you know this character who is hanging around here somebody that you know or should we look into this. If if you have some of these things in place you're not gonNA need a gun and you're not gonNA put yourself at risk because you own one but let's talk about the third fear has the third fear is a fear now that because of Kobe. Nineteen prisoners are being released from prisons. So people are imagining that. A busload of people being dropped off in the wilderness. I assume I don't know just midtown Magin is that what's really happening. The only thing that I've heard is non violent criminals who are also getting their sentence shortened from meaning. They were already on good behavior in all on their way out. I would also knowing how the government works to should have a place to go on. Because you can't be putting people out in the streets general right now so. All of this is organized. But it's also the first thing you say is prisoners released. And yes you're going to spark fear in someone exactly society is GonNa break down. Police aren't going to get to on time. All the prisoners are going to be out. I mean yeah sure scare some poor woman into buying a you know a weapon that she's never been trained on just so you can make extra money. That's what I hear. Got It so the Brady campaign has has some talking points now saying that you should ask act talk and learn about gun ownership about the people in your family who own guns about about your neighbors about gun ownership in your community and with that in mind. What are some questions that we need to ask so that would be my first question? Have you been trained on what you just bought? Or is it the coolest thing you saw? Or maybe you've read about it. Maybe you maybe you have read about this. Maybe you think you know about it but have you been trained on it and have you been trained on this weapon because there's a difference between maybe the weapon you own When you are issued a weapon in the military you're trained on it I so don't just buy a new weapon and take it home without proper training so the first question is have you been trained on the weapon you bought. I would then ask who else knows that it's in the House and I've lost family members because of this of people not knowing there a gun in the house. So who else knows it's there. That's the second question. Next is are their children. Present are their children in the home now the home all day. Are they bored? Are they looking for something to do like think these things when you ask this question? That's why we're asking because you have curious kids. They get to stay home all day much longer than a Blizzard. Snow Day. This is a new way of life for a long time. And you have to rethink of where your weapons are and is it. Loaded never store these weapons loaded at all of these stories. We read Sarah over and over again. They keep ending with. I didn't know it was loaded. That would be my next question. Then is the ammunition stored separately. If someone's going to wander upon this gun in your house and you think you have it stored if they find it and then there's the ammunition with it. That is to safety. Precaution can take storing these two things separately. That gun is a lot less dangerous without ammunition. Yeah you can find more information on the Brady campaign website and you can Google ask. Act Talk and learn well. It's time to end our show. So here's the deal. You have to become a bi buddy in the name of radio gag go to give to WBAI DOT ORG or call. Five six six two three six. Oh two that's give to WBAI DOT ORG or call five one six six two. Oh three six. Oh to. It's time for Hell Hell. 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Kathy Hochul, Lt Governor of New York State

The Electorette Podcast

49:28 min | 2 years ago

Kathy Hochul, Lt Governor of New York State

"I'm VIN dealer Skinner, and this is the electorate on today's episode Lieutenant governor of New York state, Kathy who go. Nice. Today's guests. The most powerful woman elected to office in the state of New York is here. Kathie Hobo Lieutenant governor of New York state, Kathy HOGAN is inspiring to say, the least she's held positions at every level of government. And in this conversation. We talk about what that's been like for her. You know, what it takes to win? And most importantly, what to do when you don't win. And luckily for us Kathy hotel is committed to helping other women's exceed. She started a hashtag campaign called how she does it where she talks, frankly about all she does all of the things we also talk about the fact that New York state, they have an entire women's Justice agenda for twenty nineteen. You know, this conversation is full of wisdom and gems that I personally will hold onto 'em refer back to for a long time to come. So I won't delay any longer. Here is my conversation with Lieutenant governor Kathy who they governor Kathy. Hokka welcome to the pike cast. Thank you very much lighter to be on. I'm so excited to talk to you, by the way. Way one of the things that they just aren't about. You is that your mother was an activist. She dedicated her life to helping victims of domestic violence. She. Sure did. Yeah. That's really incredible way to grow up watching your mother do this type of work. What was that like for you? Well, not only victims of domestic violence split back in the late nineteen sixties. My parents were protesting the Vietnam war when I was a little great school. I had to wear a black armband protesting the war. My parents took me to civil rights marches back then and we are involved in the environmental movement and housing opportunities made equal so we could open up lily, white suburbs. To people of color to have an opportunity live in homes, and then she orphaned to fighting for victims of domestic violence, basically what she had seen in her own home where she had an abusive father who left her and her mother and abandoned them, and she had a very tough childhood and had to take care of younger siblings. When her mother died when she was sixteen and she really had a tough life. Instead of being taken down by all the challenges it really built or resiliency, and I've always looked to her for strength when I've had tough challenges because what she overcame was phenomenal and to harness her passion for helping others into really becoming an early advocate for victims at mystic violence and back, then they just call them victims of wife-beating, and it wasn't even cleaned up and people who just really talked about it. And it was something that was really in the shadows. So she launched hearings in our state legislatures. She helped start a home for a tr- a transitional home for victims to be able to go for shelter. And I remember going with my siblings and painting rooms and bring toys in for little kids. And so she really became a champion at a time. When people really didn't acknowledge that the problem existed, and I was so proud of her back then and she decided to go to college back when I was in college because she wanted to make sure that she had the degree in social service, and you'll be able to continue doing her work and even for her seventieth birthday. We asked her what she wanted to do. And she says, let's open a nother home for victims of domestic violence in a home that now has six families and children who have a whole new lease on life because of it. So I was blessed to have that environment to sense that we have a social responsibility to others, and I'll never forget the role model that my mom was we lost her a few years ago to terrible disease Ahah last, but we continue our work in in her name. And I and I feel very fortunate to have had that environment to grow up in. Right. Well, that isn't incredible way to grow up. I mean, so when did you get bitten by the activists bugs? I know you did some activism in college at Syracuse university. I sure did a little before that my family wasn't political. I didn't have any, you know, relatives ran for office. And my father had worked at the steel plant, and my mother had worked on her causes, but was really a homemaker. But when I was in high school, I took advantage of a high school program where I could leave school early every day and go work on an internship, and I chose the Democratic Party locally and the. Chairman of that party was also the New York state chairman and all the major candidates running for federal office and stayed off his came through our offices. When I was there. I was the youngest in the room by Faro's, probably sixteen years old definitely the only girl in the room. And it was my first experience about being the only female in a room, but I overcame it. And I had a chance to work with individuals like Tim rustler to his starting in his career working for Senator Moynihan at the time to get him elected back in his first election, seventy six, and I had the it was really an honor to be able to be surrounded by the real political thinkers of my time in that inspired me to realize the tremendous potential that government affords us to help solve problems of society. But also make people's lives better. So I always knew back then that I wanted to be a staffer someday I never dreamed of running for office. I was going to be an attorney on the staff of Senator Moynihan or someone like him someday. And that was my goal since I was a teenager and carried into San. Accused university where I would be honest in saying they couldn't wait for me to graduate because as protesting everything they did and proud that as the student Representative to our university trustees we able to convince them to divest their holdings in companies doing business in South Africa. That was a major movement back then to try and create pressure to end apartheid. So I did all the protests and brought down the wrath of all the students on our trustees. And you know and boycott are bookstore because prices were too high. And I have a whole is I didn't attend a lot of classes I had to take a few incomplete because I was out there stirring things up. But at the end of the day, you know, I was able to use that experience to give me the confidence and public speaking speaking in front of the assembly of one hundred fifty other student leaders every time I wanted to get something done. I think that's what really steeled me toward life in public service, but also becoming an advocate for other people. And I talk to college students today. And I love having interns, and I spoke to my interns yesterday use this opportunity to hone in on your skills and developed leadership and public speaking and writing skills are going to propel you to opportunities later do that when you're in high school and college and it'll be so far ahead of everybody else. And that's what I did. I love that. I love that story. Really universities don't really encourage dissent anymore. It's like, they think syndrich caused a stir or you know, they're going to be radicalized or something. Yeah, wasn't violent. But certainly taking over the administration's offices for a couple of days, you know, and we said their lobby lobbying ordered pizza headed delivered. And you know, we just making our point. And we also tried to have our university new stadium named after Ernie Davis. The first black Heisman Trophy winner who had played for Syracuse university football and went onto professional but career, but he also died at a young age of leukemia. And we had a go convince the large corporate interests that they should use their money. Not to name the the. Stadium after themselves, but the name it after this inspirational figure the other graduate of Syracuse university. Clearly I lost because as not called the early Ernie Davis dome right now, it's called the carrier corporation dome. But at the time, it was probably nineteen years old went in and just you know, took on the establishment took on the head of the corporation. And as a result they did name the field after any Davis. And so I also learned that sometimes you're not going to get everything you want, but you can get a compromise. If you don't even ask for anything, you'll get nothing, and that's a given. And I've used that throughout my life. Something I learned at a young age to help me negotiate and to push for your far-reaching objectives. But be you know, know, that if I didn't raise my voice up on behalf of people or causes. They may not get accomplished. And so I I've always looked back to that is just a formative time in my life. Right. So so you said you weren't looking to initially run for office. Right. So what was the very first position you held the elected position. Well, this is an interesting story. And I tell this to young women all over because I don't want to be like me. I had the goal as I said what I was younger to be a staffer. And I did I was an attorney for Senator Moynihan worked on Capitol Hill for a congressman and had the opportunity to write speeches and work on legislation. That was important. And I was so happy to really, you know, make the other guys look good. And I was good at what I did. And I never dreamed that I'd have the courage to really be the person put their name on the ballot. Because that just seems so far fetched for women there were so few role models, and I decided, yeah, I can be happy working for other people. And I went back to my hometown. After years in Washington and started going to local town board meetings, and realizing that there are some big corporate interests like WalMart. They were trying to come into town and would hurt our local community and fighting against Exxon Mobil because the prices were. Too high of gasoline. And so I started thinking, you know, what I I went to a lot of meetings. I was involved in my local party. And finally there was an opening on our town board, and I didn't even think that after, you know, working as an attorney working in Washington big an advocate, an activist that I had what it took to run for local office, and that a twenty one year old young man, right out of college never had a real job still living at home with his parents decides he's going to run for that very position. And I said, you know, what I'm thirty five. I've done all this. You know, raising a family I'm in this community. I'm vested here. I care about it. And maybe I should take a shot as well. While the good news is they were two positions. We both ran and we both one and I served with this young man and others for fourteen years. And I tell the story that he was not wrong his confidence in himself was well placed today. He now runs a three cores of a billion dollar healthcare organization in buffalo. So he knew he. Had something when he was twenty one that I didn't know I had in me when I was thirty five and had accomplished a great deal. So I say where are the twenty one year old women who have that much confidence in themselves that they've got a voice that needs to be heard. They've got something to offer and don't end up like me waiting forever. And I've had a great career. But that was my first experience in public life, and I would have been happy with that. I really was very content fighting the good causes on behalf of the people of my town. But another opportunity came to run for countywide office Iran for that successfully on other opportunities came for congress. We can talk about that crazy race than I unexpectedly won in the most Republican district in New York and then onto Lieutenant governor. So I've served at every level of government. I've cherished every one of them. I find each one of them fast any, but for me now, I feel really in tune with people locally, and I understand their concerns really at a gut level. I still go visit the diners and stay. Connect with people in my hometown, kind of a gritty steel town that was you know, left for dead after Bethlehem Steel pulled up a decade ago two decades ago. So I really feel a connection with people that have had it tough in life. Because I we started off very humbly. My parents used to live in a trailer park, and when it got a little house, they thought they had just you're living the American dream, and I've always appreciated what I have because so many people still don't have what I've able to have because of a good education and a loving family. You know, I still find that story inspiring you whether you had decided to run at twenty one or the fact that you decided to run after it started a family at thirty five, you know, either way women can't win right were either too young. Or if you know where to old right as I still find that story, really inspiring. So, you know, we often when women, you know, they have families gets in middle age, or, you know, thirty five really isn't wage, but you know, we still lack that confidence. So yeah, I just spoke to a group of women in our state capital of Albany yesterday. Women in government and public service, and it was mostly college students. And I said the reason so many women don't achieve their full potential is they lack something called Catholics. And it's it's in your own head said, you can walk out this door today and have confidence in yourself and walk into your next meeting unit. It's REU filled with men and act like you own the place, not an arrogant way but away that shows I could handle anything, and that's a strength. We have. I said don't underestimate how strong women are that. I've had a couple of kids. I guarantee that if men were the ones who are responsible rearing or having children, we'd probably have no population. Let if that all women are tough where resilient we can handle pain. We can handle adversity and lean into that and women you're tough so act like you have the confidence people will not follow someone who's not confident in themselves. You can't be a leader. If you don't believe in yourself, and it's all in your own. Head. And so I just wanted to impress upon them start at your young age, and and feel that you can take on any challenge. No matter how big it seems. And now there's role models when I was running there were very few women in elective office. And I say as the highest rank woman in New York state, I have a responsibility to other women all ages. But particularly the young ones who need to see that someone went before them and pave the way, and I wear a necklace that is actually a piece of broken glass. I'm wearing it today. And it reminds me of the glass ceilings that have been broken, but the ones that still need to be broken yet. And that's what I work on every day as Lieutenant governor trying to embrace these issues at affect women, deeply, go out and talk about them how we can change public policy. But also if I can touch an individual and get them to want to run for office or work on elections or become an a champion of a particular advocacy issue like reproductive-health than to me that's success. How I define success. Now. You know, I'm still stuck on that that image of you as a sixteen year old walking into that room full of men, and then here talking about confidence. I mean that must have taken, you know, I could just see you there still in high school probably among these men must have taken quite a bit of confidence to just do that. Yeah. I don't think I thought I had it back then and even in high school. I was definitely not in the my yearbook. No one would have written most likely to succeed likely to run for office. That was I was still relatively shied in like to talk to people much, but I still had the sting about government. Maybe it's a field trip. I took to Washington in eighth grade and had a social studies teacher that talked about what's going on in that capital. And how important it is or the causes that my parents exposed me to talking about ill and Martin Luther King was assassinated and Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in Watergate, and all those really defining issues in, you know, long ago history when I was when I was really becoming my formative years, I would say, and so I would not say I was confident. As a teenager at all, but I probably just fearless. I wasn't intimidated and believe me but eating in that room with, you know, a lot of young men in college and beyond wasn't comfortable in certainly I endured my share of comments, which is, you know, roll off, you know, that's part of how it is. And it's frustrating to me the note that that culture hasn't changed that much that they're still women who have to endure an awful lot. When they're in these all-male settings are primarily male workplaces. And that's what I talk about two people in how to try to overcome that. And it's frustrating that it's going on today. But I think women have really turned the corner in terms of feeling empowered to stand up for themselves. Whether it's to me too movement or just society shifting finally away. From acceptance that it's normal to make comments about women in the workplace or to be able to sexually harassed them. Or hold them back. I think we're having some breakthroughs, and I'm starting to see it more in the world as well. With the number of women elected to congress, for example. And I and I had a chance to go back and visit my former colleagues and see Nancy Pelosi as speaker, and a, you know, the side of the aisle that I used to sit on filled with more women and diverse women that to me was so exciting, and it really set my heart racing to know that in a short time, we've really made some real progress and me as well. Let's go back to something you looted to you. That that unlikely raised that you want in a red district. Tell me more about that. Well, I had been an accounting official in Erie county, which is around Buffalo New York, not far from Niagara Falls at site of New York state, very far from New York City, people think for all of New York is New York City. It is not there's a big sections of New York state that are probably politically closer to Texas than than San Francisco. It'd be for example, which we consider more New York. So it's a diverse area. I had the opportunity to look at this race when it was a member of congress who you can look up to history, but I would just make a recommendation that if you're a current member of congress don't. Look for men or women on on social media using your real name. Okay. Just that's some advice. So that was exposed remarried man, and he got into trouble. And he decided he needs to resign very quickly. So all of a sudden there was a vacancy in this conservative district. And I was also looking at running for the highest county office, which is county executive which would have been much easier. I would have probably won the poll showed me ahead. I could've raised the money. I had high name recognition and that would have not been as big a challenge. She would have been an honor. But not as big a challenge but the congressional race. I sat down with my family, and my twenty one year old daughter at the time and said, listen, let me let me lay this action. This one side of the ledger. I could probably win this cow other county race the elections this year I'd have to work on that now. But congress, here's here's what we're up against most Republican district in New York. It's very large to very low name recognition. I'd have to raise millions of dollars. I don't have any money and. It be a national race. And I'd probably get really beat up by the coke brothers and everybody else who's going to run negative ads. And I said to my daughter, Katie, I said, what do you think I should do? And she looked up at me. And she said mom, congress, duh, you have to do congress. And I realized you know, what I've got this daughter that I've raised and I wanted to know that her mother had the gusts to do something that is likely to fail as I was I still had the guts to take a risk and I needed to teacher that lesson in that moment. I cut a set myself up. But I said, okay, we'll do congress and my family got on board and believe me for the first few months. It was probably only my family and close friends who thought I could do pull this off. But I started going out to the diners and the talking to the farmers and senior citizens, and at the time of this is two thousand eleven Paul Ryan hit just send it to being coming chair of the budget committee and their plan was to really decimate Medicare and I use. That as an issue to go after Republican seniors in my district and say, we cannot have Republicans in congress break, the promise that has been made to you since nineteen sixty five that will make sure that you have health care when you're when you're a senior citizen, which as you get older and on that issue and some other important issues like that, I really just found this opening this lane and started moving up in the polls a little bit because very few people paid attention. My state party the national party, I was on my own for a long time. But once they saw over this, you know, very short three-month election period. My polls numbers trending Ford. I was starting to get the support I needed out of labor and Washington. And in the end shocked, the nation was you know, we had an election night where every national media truck was air. We the London Times we had newspapers from Hong Kong. And I it was crazy. This is in buffalo. So we won that election with five percent of the vote a margin guy went to wash a sworn in. Couple of days later, and I didn't have a place to stay because I didn't expect to win. So congresswoman, Carolyn Maloney, who represents New York City. Let me stay in a spare bedroom and we shared a bathroom and I second day on the job. I was asked by Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and other roommate if I wanted to play softball with them and joined the softball team. So I was playing softball even though I never played before. And it was an incredible experience, and I'll never never regret going for that. And that was really an honor to serve there. But we had redistricting in two twenty twelve they redrew the lines to make them even more Republican. And I lost that seat by less than two percent. The next election out. So I didn't hold it very long. But it really made me understand how important the issues are that we worked on and I just would not turn my back on issues like the formal Care Act. I had the opportunity to vote against it. Probably forty five times. And my district did not support the Affordable Care Act, and they did not support contraception. And reproductive health rights that I fought for and I really paid the price because I I lost those became the heart of the attack ads against me that were funded by the coke brothers and Karl rove and some other dark monies that influenced our race. But that being said year later after spending a year in the private sector. I received a call from governor Cuomo that he was wondering to consider being his running mate for his second term in office as governor and I signed right back up and ran in a primary wasn't expecting a primary, and she no New York politics at all a lot of votes in New York City, not from upstate New York rhyme from so we work really hard and win that primary, and I was successful in the in the November election. So that's where I've been for the last four and a half years and feeling really truly fortunate that I now have the platform a statewide platform even larger than I had when I was in congress to champion causes for women. Whether it's paid family leave or or childcare issues, which I'm working on or making sure. We have a higher minimum wage a highest in the nation. So I get I get a chance to work on things that matter to people, and it's so fulfilling, and so it's uplifting to know that you know, that life. You don't know how it's going to turn out. But I've been really fortunate. That's all I can say I love every single day. I get up and bang it out one more day and see if I could meet more people and inspire them and make them feel good about what their government could do for them. It's this morning. I opened up an affordable housing place in tough part of Brooklyn known as Bushwick lot of poverty there. But to be able to tell people that you don't have to worry about sleeping on the streets. Tonight. You have a warm place for people to take care of you. That's to me was government's all about we take care of people. And that's what we do at the state level. Well, that's amazing. You're making me both want to run for office to New York. We welcome you to come to New York. And I'll help you campaign. Excellent. Was you kind of answered my next question. I was going ask you about losing election. And I was going to ask that because the other day I was on Twitter. That's all somebody. They started a thread about a woman. I can't remember her name. I can't remember what state or district she ran for. But she loss at election by single digits. Her loss was in single digits. And the thread was saying courage her to run again and reminded me of this conversation. I'd had it was sometime last year before the midterms. And I think it was with I can't remember anything right now. But I think it was with Kelly did mar. And she is with cop the center for American women in politics, we were talking and the thing that she said that was really memorable to me was that she wasn't worried about the midterms in terms of are getting the necessary seats, right that MIR may not happen. You know, the pink wave may or may not happen. But what she was worried about was if we didn't have that wave if limit didn't win the seats are expected of them that they would kind of give up and lose. That momentum. And we wouldn't try again, you know. And so that was my next question to you about whether you've ever lost election. And you just told me that you did, you know, how did you? What did you do? What did you draw on to pick yourself back up into get back in? What would you say to women who've lost that is a great question because people focused on the victors and just most recently the first calls I made after the twenty teen election and a lot of people had supported women had run for congress and really tough districts and help them all across the state of New York. I call them I want who lost. Because as I said, I've been there. It's painful when you lose an election, especially one when you've already held the seat as I did. And you work so hard, and you have a lot of people believe in you. I think women can handle the loss, but they know they've disappointed people. And I think what hurt me the most was knowing that my staff, and my friends and my allies, and my family were probably in pain because of my loss, and that's that's I focused on and I and it was hard, and you don't want to get out of bed for a lot of days. And I swear I had PTSD I didn't want to go into the grocery store. My husband had to do all the grocery shopping because you just think people looking at you like, oh, you're a loser. And we saw those horrible negative ads about you were so horrific. I didn't wanna vote for myself when I was I said, my really that bad, and you know, the little girl next door of us says told her mother she says, please turn off the TV. They make MRs Hoke. Look so scary. When of course, it's Halloween time. And they've got me on a broom like a witch dispense stuff. So it's really. It's tough. But I tell women this too. I guess what eventually I healed and I got better. And you know, if it doesn't kill you. It makes you stronger, and I said, no one could touch me. Now, I am I am like steel, and I've one other women to know that that you may have lost one time look at how many men who are running. Now. Let's look at Joe Biden, for example, or Ronald Reagan took three times become president metal do it. Again, men will be out there fundraising the next time already an act like nothing happened and the women that are already now talking about running again after losing I find them inspiring. And I want them to know that I'll support them, and we'll get it the second time around, and, you know, just by stepping up and saying I'm willing to run they're in a very small percentage of the population that has the guts to do that or who care enough to expose themselves to tremendous public scrutiny. I mean, everything from what you're wearing. And you know, how your hair looks? And if you put on a couple of pounds, and all these other things are talked about. Incessantly, but you have to have a clear eyed vision of wire doing it don't put up with all the crap to stole it Abbasi as my mother used to say, no one can make you feel bad without your permission. So I don't give anybody permission and stay focused on the prize, which is having a position where you can help people have a better life. And if you can keep your mind on why you're doing it and let everything else just, you know. Peel away. You have to do that. It's it's part of survival in this business. So I'm not going to sugarcoat how painful it is. When you lose an election, but you'll feel much better by yourself. If you go back at it and try again, and that's what I want women to know while I'm gonna you're made of steel I'm gonna wake up every morning and tell myself in the mirror, you're we are tougher that we give ourselves credit for really do a nice another hangup that women have and we got to go over a few things ourselves, and I'm excited about you know, trying to change it for other women make and make an a difference. But that's why I have this hash day. We can talk about that too. I talk about lessons that I've learned through hash day called how she does it and we launched this back in March. And we have had such a great response. And I started telling really dispersal stories about how I survive every day, and I get asked when you I travel I've gone around the planet, mile wise, probably probably almost ten times definitely over. Nine and a half. So I'm constantly on the road. I travel the entire state. I go to every event known to man. I mean, thousands of people I I've given twenty three hundred speeches and Heidi prepare for speeches. How do you survive being on the road all the time? And so I found the opportunity through this hashtag recognizer those questions, and I start off by saying that women are born multi-taskers and people wanna know how I packed and travel and deal with hotels, and airports and balanced family and exercise and what I eat. So we've had some fun answering these questions, but recently, I've done a couple of things one is having given so many speeches, and this is something that terrifies both men and women, but I tell women if you can get comfortable, delivering a speech, there's no stopping you. And a lot of practice in front of a mere, but it's in confidence. So I give five major points in how to give a speech as part of my hashtag fact, I was speaking to the Democratic National Committee, New Jersey last Friday and woman came up to me and. He says, you know, I'm a I'm involved in my community people. Tell me I should run. I didn't feel good about giving speeches that I saw your hashtag. And I read how you do it. And I'm thinking I can do this now. And I said, you know, what you just made my day because that's why I'm doing this. I'm trying to share a lifetime of experience with other women because women who've made it to the top. We have a responsibility to reach back and pull other people up with us and through this hashtag rail to give little tips on what to do and one of the ones that got a lot of attention recently was I talked about answering the question what it's like to deal in a male dominated world. And I said here's the answer. I've been called an iron fist and evolving glove. What does that mean? I said what that means is I am brace all the assets and strengths of my femininity. But I will not hesitate to fight back and use my power to fight for myself and for other people, so don't underestimate me. And so I talk about this and an a lot of responded to that a lot of men of respond to that. And I had a man say I showed that. My daughter. I want my daughter to be tough. And so we're enjoying it. But I'm answering questions every single day. And if you have any questions everything from what I eat on the road and what I packed with me. And when I get my most of my work done and how I prepare for interviews and how fit in gym and exercise and the hotel gym. And I actually said Ruth Bader Ginsburg is my inspiration a summit of her age and her position still working out. I feel like a slacker if I don't lose ten minutes a day. So I do go to a lot of hotel fitness centers and try to work out a little bit too. And another question was how do you balance family and work? And I said I fall there's no balance. So don't don't expect it you're never gonna feel equilibrium. Because if you're at work, you're feeling guilty about not being at home with your family with your family. You're preoccupied with work. So you're gonna get through. I tell a lot of women with young kids. Here's the good news. I mean, you love your children, but they're going to eventually grow up and move away. And during this time. You need to teach them lessons about what life is all about. And how to be involved in your community and by running for office. When your kids are young. They I guarantee Leadbetter citizens someday. Like, my kids who are millennials who are costly they live in Washington. They're always protesting something that Donald Trump did my daughter's sending a March on reproductive health there marching with the scientists or LGBTQ communities. I'm really proud of them. And they didn't have me home all the time, and I felt guilty about that. But I also know that my job was the launch them as responsible caring adults into the world. So if you look at the long view of what you're supposed to do as a parent, you can overcome a lot of this guilt that you have if you're running for office, and you're not gonna make every single baseball game or parent teacher conference, and hopefully you have a support system either a spouse, a partner, family friends, and I think that women ought to step up and help other women with childcare on that front. The I never hesitate to. Somebody else's kids. So they can get out and campaign, and I appreciate people helped me out. So we need to support each other lift each other up, and that's that's what I do. Yeah. I think your message about involving children is so important. I actually just made that decision, you know, a couple of weeks ago just thinking like when I give talks and talk about, you know, whatever Justice social Justice or anything equal rights when I can when the contents appropriate. I'm going to bring my kid, you know. How old are your children? My my son is seven okay perfect age. I hope he's been voting every year even elections. You know, take him every vote, and my kids turned eighteen I mean at breakfast, they are greeted with a voter registration form, they are not going to go to school that day until they registered so Siam pressed upon them in my kids were little, but they got their pictures taken with Bill Clinton and L gore. And and all the candidates that are running back, then, you know, just just they know it's important. You know, they they know that public services expected of them in some fashion whether were hand other people's races or contributing or being an advocate, but you're on this planet a short time. And it's not about how much money make. It's about what you do. And in fact, back to what we talked about the outset the influence of my mother when I was growing up, my mother's favorite saying was on our refrigerator and said go into the world, and do well, the more importantly going to the world and do good. And I forget who said that. But my mother had that on our. Refrigerator? And when we we buried her five years ago last month, we actually put that on her tombstone so all for eighteen grandkids would visit grandma in the cemetery. They would see the words that she lived by as an inspiration. And that's the expectation that we should have on our own children that you weeks pecked you to be a contributor someday. And you should watch how we do it. 'cause we're that's our job. It's generational. Iva? Responsibly to teach the next generation to fight for the environment and define for women's rights. And to stand up when someone's bullied, and we have so much power as parents into use it every day, you we're forming these little kids minds she a seven year old that you have. No, they're watching everything you do. And what lessons you can teach by just so your work. Right. Exactly. You know? I I wanna go back to your hashtag. How she does it because this is amazing. So I and I'm really bad at using as tags correctly. So tell me how this works. If I use the hashtag how she does it you'll come in you'll swoop been and give me advice like, you know. Ending out a bat signal is it works. It's actually it's not that engaged. It's it's on my Twitter account. It's a Lieutenant governor Twitter account. So if you go under that that is you can look up the hashtag how she does it in. You'll see all my posts on it. And if you're not on Twitter yourself, it's like new tenant governor HOGAN, and why LT GIO V H O C H U L. And why and so that's my Twitter handle. And if you look under that you'll see the hashtag how she does it. And if you're not on Twitter, you can just Google that. And it'll pop up you don't have to be at Twitter user. So that's where people are setting ideas to us. And what I did. I was on television news and non New York City on Friday about this. And I said, you know, what I've given a lot of advice. I wanna hear a how other women do it not just how she does with respect to me how you do it. So we've asked people to put in sort of their daily survival techniques or how they get along a male. Native profession or disinvite. They haven't had a lift other women up. So we start this ripple effect of women feeling responsibility for other women, and that's how we're going to have a breakthrough in society, and hopefully it more women to run and be expe- taking their positions in boardrooms and asserting their their power that they have and Guinness. Ended him noxious aggressive way is just getting your needs met and getting the needs of your causes met and finding the way to do it. No, I love that. I think that's helpful right now. So I wanna talk about what you've been doing with a New York state in your current position. Right. So you haven't entire women's Justice agenda for twenty nineteen writer is amazing. So talk about some of the things that are part of that agenda. We thought it was really important, particularly with the assault on women's rights currying in Washington. Whether it's this free court, whether it's the president congress or even agency decisions that are affecting women every day that we needed to first of all protect the rights of Roe v. Wade in our. Nate law. We didn't have this. What happened in New York state is that in nineteen seventy we legalized abortion in New York nineteen Seventy-three with Roe v. Wade coming along. It was protected, but we needed to update our laws to make sure it reflected what Roe v Wade allows. So we didn't have this for all these years. In fact, we had opposition to even simply codify Roe v. Wade from conservative elected officials who lost in the last election. Thank god. So what we did was we first while made sure that we had reproductive health coverage in our in our state law, contraception coverage mandating that insurance companies cover contraception making sure that insurance companies cover in vitro fertilization and egg freezing recognizing that. So many young women have for Tillis issues or they want a delay their family. It's all part of family planning or LGBTQ couples wanted to plan families, whatever they choose to. And also return on our talent, I work on that. Realizing that women of color are four times as likely to die in childbirth than white women are and the injustice of that and how we can deal with those bias Caesar during in the medical profession. We have a lot to do with respect to women getting enough pay in the workplace, so I'm working on closing, the gender gap and part of that is a salary history ban, and some states have considered this may be going think in California that's part of the law there, but we want to say is that a lot of women are held back because they don't negotiate a good Sarafina cells read, the beginning of their career myself, for example, when I was a young staff front Capitol Hill, I had left a large law firm took a fifty percent pay cut because I really didn't like the law firm I wanted to work in public service. But I didn't realize that making twenty five thousand I was an attorney the man next me was not an attorney was making more than me. And I didn't know that. And now I would say that hells women backs throughout their careers. If they don't negotiate on behalf of themselves. In a better way in the early part. So we're not allow people to ask what your prior salary history. Is there should be a value attached to a job not your own experiences? And that's what holds a lot of women back. The other challenge we have which is huge is child care. So many women are struggling with the fact that they want to spend more time at the office and further careers in the, you know, whether it's in tech fields, whether it's in the legal profession or here in Wall Street or families that are just trying to work a couple minimum wage jobs and pulled all together if they don't have access to sometimes even around the clock childcare where someone who works the night shift that a hospital cleaning person at of nursing homes throughout the night. Who's watching her kids and excessively affordable? Childcare we're finding is not just a families problem. It is now an economic problem for the state of New York because we're not getting the benefit of the full economic power of women achieving their full potential earning what they deserve. So we are finding out ways and working with partners in the federal government. And other areas where we figure out how to incentivize workplaces to address this need have more flexible hours for women. And in fact, just a great story in the New York Times in the business section on Sunday about a man and wife who were both classmates in Cornell law school both went to big law firms. But when the children came along, you know, she dropped back to two days a week because there's no to watch the kids and he'd propelled himself into a much higher earning position. And how storm it falls back on women to be the ones responsible primarily for child care, and what can society do about that. What can we do to help alleviate that and have more equity in that in that space? But also, we don't have an equal rights amendment at the federal government level or at our state level. And that is unconscionable to me the women's rights movement. Started in New York state way back in eighteen forty eight. When three hundred women gathered in a remote place called Seneca falls. And now, it's a national. Historic landmark place, they gathered and they debated the issues of the time, but women were so fed up even back as far back as eighteen forty eight saying that they're tired of being the property of men. They wanted to have the right to vote. They wanted to have the right to own property, and we're really the birthplace of this. And I say all my speeches to women that is at our DNA to fight to make sure that we protect women every way possible in one of them is to make sure that in our state law that we have an equal rights amendment. So this women's Justice agenda is everything I spoke about, but I'd love to capitol off by the end of our legislative session. Just a nother month away at the end of June to have a new equal rights amendment here in New York. And also make sure that we get the thirty state Virginia has to pass it. So we can finally have a correct our federal constitution and make sure that we take care of the needs of women. Right. You know, I Ron cly today. The house's having hearings for the first time on the rights amendment. Right. And I think. The first time they've had hearings on this in thirty six years, and Carolyn Maloney, my old roommate and congress has really been the champion of this. And she is dedicated to it and choose her husband was related to Alice Paul who first proposed equal rights Mun back in nineteen Twenty-three in the state of New York. So this is a legacy that she's been pushing her entire career, and I couldn't be prouder to know that you know, she's been champing this and within get everyone on board. And finally make a statement what a great statement is for the women of this country. When we have a woman who's elected speaker, one of the most powerful people on this planet Nancy Pelosi, and now so many more women in office, not just in York when congress, but to be able to say that we finally after decades decades of trying we finally have enshrined these rights into our constitution. It is long overdue. Yeah. We don't have time to go into everything that's in the women's Justice agenda, but I'm gonna put it in the show notes because when I was reading through it. I was really impressed like just the, you know, the budget for childcare alone. I think it's something like twenty. Five twenty six million. I think people just really go through that. And see as a model to see what we can apply nationally. I appreciate that. Because we do think that Tripoli what's the rights of women being attacked daily in Washington that states now really have to step up and New York loves to lead on these issues and be a model for others. But simultaneously, we have other states red states. That are sliding backwards. Really starting to find ways to deny reproductive rights and say that you can't have an abortion after a heartbeat is heard which could happen in eighteen days. I mean, there's there's insane things happening all over the country. So so states, like New York and California really have a responsibility to stand firm on behalf of the millions of people represent and to try to make sure that we have some common sense in our policies and don't turn the clock backward to the eighteen hundreds or even priroda reweight. So that's the challenge we face now that didn't exist before Donald Trump was elected president. So what would you say in closing? What would you say to any woman who's sitting back, and she's on the fence like she really wants to do something wants to be an activist or run for office. Would you say to to push her star? It's what are you waiting for? What are you waiting for? You only have one chance to go around and life. And everyday matters. You do not long know how long you've been given to be on this planet, and you need to make sure that every day you're making a difference and bettering the lives of other people and that is your challenge. And that is the legacy you leave to your children when they look at you someday and say, you know, it just like, I was inspired my mother I hope to inspire my daughter and the next generation as well. So so women need to stop thinking about it. And know that they have talents. We need their voices. We need them gauged and step up and just do it. Well, well, attendant governor Kathy hole. Thank you so much for joining me today, really, really inspired me. And thank you for your your life of service. Well, thank you, very much a pleasure to be on your show. Thank you so much for listening to. Today's episode. 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Kathy Hochul, Lt Governor of New York State | Reopening & Rebuilding New York

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25:44 min | 11 months ago

Kathy Hochul, Lt Governor of New York State | Reopening & Rebuilding New York

"I'm Jim. Taylor skinner and this is the electorate on this episode. A have a conversation with Lieutenant Governor. Kathy focal of New York, state. Lieutenant, Governor huckle joins me. To Discuss New York response to the coronavirus outbreak, specifically the recovery in rebuilding process. We discussed. The unique ways plumbing have been impacted by Kobe nineteen and what can be done to help women recover, so please enjoy my conversation with Lieutenant Governor Kathy Cocoa. Thank you. Bradley back look I enjoyed our conversation last time. We're going to have this great. Yes, I just into welcome back. The last time you spoke of course that was of course before the pandemic and I know that you hit the ground running. You've been connecting with constituents and you've been working really hard to get the state New York state back on its feet. So I just WanNa know you know. How are you doing? Thank you for asking and I am doing fine. My normal life would've been going from my home. In the western part of New York Buffalo catching as three a M wakeup call and getting out of flight, five to go, New York City, and then maybe try out to Long Island for. For a few hours, and then up to our state capital, and maybe you know, cover the whole state by midnight, so to made parsley in his less travel and wars, zooming moving around the state is what I'm doing, so I have been able to actually touch. More constituencies speak to more elected officials I host meetings with physicist WBZ conference statewide yesterday that I would not have been able to probably pull off with the other schedule half, and so you whether it's talking to chambers women on businesses, faith based community I'm out there just talking about what our objectives are in. In terms of meeting the healthcare crisis, but now we're in the more desirable phase, which is talking about how reopened in a smart way based on the metric, so it is all consuming, but still very fascinating and We're GONNA come out of this with much more knowledge, understanding appreciation for people from all walks of life that were sort of quietly behind the scenes, and never got the recognition they deserve, and I also think this gives us an opportunity to state to really redefine ourselves and launched into the future, and sees on some of the best practices that have emerged out of. Of this crisis. Yeah, I'm glad you're doing well, and you've been working really hard to move the state into the next phase of a lockdown. Honestly I have to say it does make me a bit nervous. Given what's at stake? States begin to reopen too soon. So as are you in right now new. York state depends on the corner of the state of Western. New York upstate to just much that moved into phase to my way of buffalo buffets too early next week. Face to opens up a lot more of the businesses that he will been anxious to go to hair salons and. Retail with many limitations May. There's no nails being done his facials. It is just get a quick haircut with someone who's wearing literally a face shield and has had tested the taken test for Kobe before. They could. Even I'll serve you, so we have very tight restrictions to deal with just what you're talking about. The fear that people are going to have about. Emerging from his deep slumber. Being people have been doing everything they could to sacrifice, but to keep themselves and their families safe, and now they want. They have to be able to trust us in government that followed the doctors who followed the experts, and then we on the metrics that we feel it's safer to go out taking the same precautions we've talking about for. For three months now and so that's why we have the ability to open up slowly. We're not. We're not talking about restaurants. We'll be theaters or larger gatherings, just slowly opening up society and the economy, but nationally we passed this really grim milestone. We have now over a hundred thousand deaths from Colbert nineteen. You know it's still very scary to me on the. The other hand lots of businesses, especially small businesses. They're really hurting financially. There seems to always be this pushing pull. You know we're state. You're caught between which takes priority. Yes, and we are priority all throughout. This has been public health. We wouldn't be talking about reopening. Despite understanding deeply how extraordinarily painful this is for our small businesses and all the employers and I. I come out of a small business family I know the suffering that goes on, and you put your livestream into a low shopper, little of business and almost sign. You don't know if you're GONNA. Make it to the next month or not, so so what we've always said. Public Health comes I mean we can always bring back our economy. He'll be painful tough. Excruciating for our state, revenues are states in your body, sixty five billion dollar whole over the next couple of years already, so we're GONNA have to make some tough decisions, probably some cuts, but if people aren't alive, not protecting public health than what are we therefore so that is what has driven US early talking about reopening. Because we've seen the numbers decline really quite well now, it took a long time to reach the plateau. And if you follow along in New York state has a very transparent way to see what's going on at four dot ny dot. Gov You can really see our hostels ation rate, and it's really going downhill. The number of people use as down number of new cases. Way Down and we didn't see that we wouldn't be talking about reopening if we had stronger broader social safety nets. Nets here in the US what would be ideal in terms of a reopening schedule right in I'm thinking about New Zealand. You know I knew there are comedy is a lot smaller than ours you know, but they had a really strict walked down early on. You know, accommodate suffer bid. They're able to really crush the curve really quickly, so I guess the question is, how would we? We operate if our social safety nets were such that you know, we didn't have to worry as much about the economy, you know what would are reopening process. Look like well probably operate very differently, and what troubles me the most is that women have been hit so hard by this wing. Women were women than men are filing for unemployment. They're. They're not in the industries that are. Are being called back the earliest like construction manufacturing, those are very male, dominated field, so women will be going without their paycheck, and you longer period of time, and on the other hand, those who are working are in the most at risk jobs made therein the ones. They're the ones that are out there on the front line, a seventy eight percent of healthcare workers, the nurses and People that are working in the cafeterias and the Kitchens and and places where they exposed. Those are all women, and so women are really. Really caught in a bad squeeze here at this pandemic either unemployed, and if you're single head of household, you're having trouble. Put Food on the table. A hope and your unemployment checks come in, but let him have been anomaly delayed because of the overwhelming. The system or you're out there exposing yourself every day because you need that paycheck you going and working in a kitchen making someone's. Someone's food that they can pick up curbside and positive. Free back the virus your house, so the Connie's important, and it'd be nice if people knew that they didn't have to risk themselves. We also have to keep some basics functions going and we. We need people to still going to the grocery stores and sell our food and go into the pharmacies of make sure we have prescription. Prescription so those tend to be women, which is just a fascinating study, and whether or not society properly recognizes and appreciation to end compensates women the way they should. No, you're absolutely right under that something we've talked about before and I know that something that you've specifically been focused on, and even before the pandemic I know that New York state have a lot of policies in place that. That were really targeted towards paid family. Leave, you know guaranteed paid sick. Leave childcare funding, so you really had some strong policies in place for women. Already you having those policies in place already will help women in your state. Do Better following this absolutely better than they would have been for sure compared to other states that don't have a minimum wage that allows you to make more. More than eighteen thousand dollars a year. You now can earn thirty two thousand dollars if you're making the fifteen dollars and that's that's life changing for a mom with a couple of kids, so yes, we have more safety nets in place, and to think about how important paid sick leave is in the early part of this crisis in other states who had people showing up to work healthcare? Healthcare, workers or people who are working in restaurants, cooking food. Who could be sick during the virus showing some symptoms? But if they didn't show up, they didn't get a paycheck in New York state. We changed any before the virus to say then if it's a small business, your tunnel. At least five paid sick days of year, larger businesses have to offer seven, so we've recognized. Recognized for wild that state government has the ability to enact policies that can help lead some of the economic burden on families, particularly those headed by women, and would even more states have data that says it's safer to begin to reopen. When that begins to happen, the virus will still be here. You know and many of those early businesses are ones where I think women are disproportionately. Disproportionately represented on the front lines as essential workers you know states are opening up hair salons in restaurants, and of course there's more more people slowly began to go to work. There's going to be a huge demand for child care, and all of those positions are disproportionately held by women to the burden will fall squarely on their shoulders on our shoulder so I know it's never fair. Tough about this now as we're starting to come out with a lot of women, either you're the frontline worker, and you're out there exposing yourself, and you're doing amazing work keeping everything going allowing us to eat and take care of ourselves and. Being there for US helping us in hospitals, or if you've been held because you lost your job now, what happens when your job is available for you to go back to? But because of concern about the impact of this virus on children, there's no summer school. There's no summer camps and live. Childcare centers have shut down, so here's your choice bomb. Dry. Leave my kids alone or I. Still Work when you don't have much choice there. Then that's that's going to happen. WHO's GonNa Watch? The children who typically when those who are for to have their own parents or grandparents who might have been part of their support system. They were the vulnerable ones early on. They were not even able to help. Watch the children of first responders or Or essential workers, and that's going to be compounded when people start going back to the office or wherever they're other point is, and there's no one to watch the kids. A lot of people normally be putting their kids in childcare summer camps, and that's not going to be valid. So, what does the woman do? Stay home because there's no one watched. Kids I mean we have a real. tepelene grain childcare crisis in this country and this virus has really exacerbated a lot of the riffs. We haven't society here. Why why is the case that it all collapses because women can have with have childcare during the ones. We needed the office now in their jobs when they don't have that support system, so it's just something to study and think about later, but we're living in the heat of crisis right now. It's very real for people you. You know also not just women who are in essential worker positions right just women generally who women who are working from home. There's this issue of any gold distribution of housework which I don't know if we can quantify, but we kind of know that it's there, so those women actually go back into the office. They're going to have a greater hit professionally than their male partners or just men generally even if they don't have partner of course. All right. Here's the silver lining to the extent that women and there's so many different jobs that women are in. It's hard to generalize for a Long Time House. Much younger it was. Women were told to either go into nursing, or you can be a teacher, because most of those jobs would lend themselves to flexible hours, so you can have your priority being a mom. Okay, that was my grandma's age of my mother's age Now women have burst into other professions, careers, and have more opportunities available to them but I'm wondering now with the with the success of of working from home, telecommuting does create more flexibility who women who are in jobs where they can work remotely that they're not essential frontline workers. Their lawyers are as someone who works in the financial services, industry or or other careers. They can now be able to build a system at home where I mean it sounds excruciatingly bad I did this I was starting by legal two babies at home, and I would work before the kids will go I worked during nap time, and then when he went to bed at eight o'clock at night, I would work on legal contracts till. Till one two in the morning it was exhausting, but I was able to get my work done because I just needed to show a product, and that might actually be a system that works better for women in some cases. Now we've had this experiment because of the virus where people are telecommuting, bosses are more custom to it don they don't think that the employees are just home. You know making cookies and paint their toenails. Work here I think there's a higher level of trust and the actually say yeah. It's hard on the employee because they're saying that they're actually more productive. They're not spending time commuting. You live in the new. York, City area That's a certain percentage of your date, just getting to your job, and so people can get that time back. Use It for themselves. Use it to take care of their kids. Part of it, maybe other parts to keep working it all just means that women will never have free time, and that's just the reality of it. There's never going to be time for themselves, but as I speak to many women I said small consolation, but. Here's the deal. Your kids who've actually get out of that needy age when they want their mom around all the time really hit about thirteen fourteen and let's if you've got an infant. It seems like an eternity away, but at some point you know just by their age. You're going to have more independence in. It. All works out we in. This seems like you're never gonNA. See the light at the end the tunnel when you have all these pressures on you, but we live long enough that you can look back and say wow. How did I ever get through that one time? I three kids are starting to kids. three jobs and I'm studying for the bar exam It was insane and so whenever I am stressed. Now as you know, it'll never be as crazy as it was back when I pulled that off, so. So it's small consolation, but it's something we think about just kind of kind of coach. Women through this phase because there's been enormous stress on them trying to manage kids learning from home there now. The teacher in addition to the teachers trying to teach online it. It's been a crazy time, but let's figure out what we can learn from that. What our strengths are in how society can start making it up to women to make their lives easier. Yeah, know. This is why I really love these conversations with you because. Your personal experiences are often reflected. I think in in your leadership i. see that you know your policies that censure women and families and I personally always learn something from you in you know. I work at night to work from ten to one often after my kids are asleep in the conference call I had my six month in my lap. She decided not to not that day, but you I've just heard so many stories since depend started about the burden falling. Falling equally on the shoulder of women erupted falls on women primarily. Again I don't know everybody circumstance. Being some women are single heads of household. They have no choice. They are the only parent the only adult. It has to all on never. Can't complex these women they are superheroes. I was fortunate to have a has been dead. Support me so he would walk in the door. Sometimes I was elected official I run off to town more meetings. I'd come back. He'd have the kids in bed that I do my legal work late at night. So you know, and it's funny now because you know. Our children are actually thirty and thirty two, so he did. That's why I can say you can survive that Faiza just takes a long time. But now my husband and I are trying to work from home together, and he's in the back bedroom in our places that big. He's in the back and I'm in the front. I'm trying not to over EUR. His conference call. He's trying to overhear mind. But you know I'm around. I might make a wind shift around. He'll make me luncheon and he'll make dinner. More can Leyla last I. Get home to relate. And so he had dinner ready ready for me and will do the dishes and we split up. Every does their own laundry, so it's just I feel fortunate, but I. I wish we'd been had that support because that is, allow me to really reach for the stars I've never felt. How back as much as I felt when I was home for fifteen years with my multiple jobs from home, raising kids, he was supportive as he could be as. As a spouse outside the home, so everybody has to do the best cam what life deals them, but my mother's favorite saying was this, too. Shall Pass and I can't tell you how many times I've thought of that recently with respect to this pandemic or back now is a young mom, just trying to figure out life and to keep my head above water, and it does get you through I always cringe when I hear, people chide women for decisions that you know maybe beyond control everyone's home life is different, and you know we're all trying to cope the best way we can, and there are some. There you know many women who support each other or spouses or partners who support each other, and if your blessed enough the live to have someone like that, you know there's no stopping you, and if you're not, then you just have to adapt, you just have to show your children your resiliency and they will learn from how hard you struggle, and the lessons that you impart to them at the end of the day. That's what you WANNA. Do you WanNa being role model that dealt with adversity who is your Chin up in pride and a positive attitude, and that your children hair at that, and then they will become better. Better citizens of the world and more adaptable to deal with life stresses, and that's why I feel like I've my mother had deal? It's my mother had a hellacious childhood was horrible, which she had endured as a child, and always looked back and said you know what My Mother didn't die when I was sixteen. My grandma was an abused in my home and just a lot of things I didn't have to deal with, but I've always felt fortunate. That's allow me to see life very differently than I have to give back to others because I've not been dealt the same things that even people my family had deal with. Af in thinking a lot about how we as a country can adequately address the ways in which women have been uniquely affected by this pandemic, and those wondering. If you thought that, there is a case to be made for some sort of women's recovery packets, a recovery package targeted specifically at the ways in which women have been uniquely impacted, yes. Yes, you're should be and I do think one of the takeaways from this pandemic will be recognition that people who have toiled in the shadows unrecognized are now considered essential the and and I think we the governor and I spoke about this often. You don't talk about just so okay. Let's sing. Praises of are essential workers and Bang Yardley, everyone banks or pots pans at seven o'clock to thank the healthcare workers. You do some crazy things here, but. But it does traditions this show gratitude, but you have to compensate people is Panama on the back say, thank you, but okay. You're Yo-you here's your hazard. Pay for what you had to deal with. And women would benefit from that at the federal level, because they're the ones primarily out there on. They've been the ones who are the nurses and the people in the grocery stores in the pharmacists, and may our bus drivers in New York City and Driving the MTA trains, and so I think there could be compensation. It also should include all kinds of subsidies for childcare. I've been sharing the governor's task force on childcare last two years and I say every business. You WanNa make yourself more competitive. Show me what you've done to help with the childcare. Burn on the women in your workforce especially if you don't have many women need to examine why and if you're large, enough company, big enough space, tell me where your childcare center is. Why don't you have an onsite childcare center said that two major tech companies come on. You've got ruined. Some of these ping pong tables. Put in a childcare center you'll get. You'll women to walk here and men WANNA see their kids in the middle of the day. Young men who care about their families will WANNA work. Here's well. You can make that quality of life, and they may need some federal subsidies as well to get something that off the ground. We have to start investing that if we want women to achieve their full economic potential. Potential and make sure that children have clottey childcare, and are taking care of an and at families can have their children close them in the worksite. Not Worry about them so much. We can change all this woods with federal government assistance it should, it should occur. I also heard ninety south to get more details on it that the state of Hawaii has a post, pandemic feminist agenda and not a starbucks. starbucks about in terms of what they're doing to rethink their policies with respect to how women were treated during this what they had to do, and how competitor lives going for China. I'm intrigued by that. Many of the people have spoken to about the pandemic and the coronavirus outbreak. I've asked him about this. Moment could mean long-term once on the other side, and you know as bad as it is. Is You know many of them say that this could be a watershed moment and a lot of different areas I mean for instance this could be the push that we need for broader social safety nets, and you know a better healthcare system and voting rights for instance right? What do you hope to see on the other side of this? For New York state I? Do hope that you know we are. At a turning point our nation where? This has been a unique opportunity for us to come together. I saw more of it in the first couple of months of people who lived in New York City went through this after nine eleven where there was at spirit of oneness that we all went through something horrific together an a really bonded people in a powerful way that lasted for a while we. We're strangers on. The subway would actually make eye. Eye contact and say Hello Our you know people endow on the grocery store would connect with each other, and it was really transformative for community. It's nut white knight that by nature so I felt that early on with it was. We're in this together and then I just don't want to see it. Become politicized, and people torn apart were wearing a mask or not wearing a mask a political statement. I just think that history and judges, and a very positive light of how came through this horrific three months, and now probably ended a four or five months where we have to really continue to support each other lift each other up and the people that are out there in the lowest wage jobs who showed up every single day regardless of their own health. And maybe they needed a paycheck, but my God. They knew that they are running into the heat of battle every day by going up at showing up at their jobs I helped people look at them differently from now on that cashier that you appreciate today that you'll still appreciate a year from now and make eye contact. Thank people. People more and just show more humanity because this pandemic show is how precious life is. There's one hundred thousand people who in the early month of March thought they'd be here to see the summer. Come on, and they're not with us. And Life is very unexpected in. We should learn from that to treasury each day, treasure our families, but also to strangers out there who just made it all happen for us and allowed us to thrive in this environment safely and Toronto at the other side Yeah and additionally. I think one way to take care of our community. Is You know making sacrifices? Make you sacrifice by following the the conditions of the phases. You not going out unless it's absolutely essential. With the war, people who actually go out are pretty people. Will those essential workers at risk crate? Exactly exactly? It's not about it's not about you, it's. About all of us and and people who are willing to do extraordinary work that they do last night had the chance to speak to editor how many we'll be if she wandered F., D., N. Y. Fire Department York. EMT workers and they're the ones who headed go out there and Clinton people's homes. That were very sick with covid nineteen transport them get them hooked up. Get them safely. You'll hospital. They're exposed to that virus. Every second of the way and nobody stayed home. Nobody called in sick latest when I did it and I just had a chance to thank them on behalf of our nineteen. Ninety Yorkers and many more who are alive today because of what they did, and I think that's something that the always seared in my memory coming out of this the incredible as you mentioned the sacrifice that people are willing to make and a fleet. Our lives can't just sacrifice a little bit more and be smart about you wearing a mask thing you don't want anymore. You're getting tired of it up to bed. If that's save someone's life, my God, it was worth it. Well. Thank you so much for talking to me against it and thank you so much for all the work you're doing on behalf of. Your state! Thank you so much. Thank you always a pleasure and. You'RE GONNA be great, mom, and in going, and you're going to be okay all right, hang in there. Picked up my ringtone. Shell pass. Think you. Thank you for listening. 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#223: Tom and Jen Satterly, All Secure Foundation

Borne the Battle

1:15:52 hr | 4 months ago

#223: Tom and Jen Satterly, All Secure Foundation

"Monday december seven twenty twenty borne. The battle brought to you by the department of veterans affairs. The podcast that focuses on inspiring veterans stories and puts a highly unimportant resources offices and benefits for our veterans. I'm your host marine corps veteran tenor. Iskra hope he had a good week. Set a podcast land by now. I hope you have either eaten or frozen. Those thanksgiving leftovers according to my wife. If it's still in the fridge today there are no longer good couple ratings. No new reviews this week if you like what we have put together every week. Please consider smashing that subscribe button and leaving a rating and or a review on apple podcasts. In doing so you'll be helping. Push this podcast up in the algorithms giving more veterans the chance to catch the information provided not only in the interviews but in the benefits breakdown episodes and in the news releases speaking of news releases we have. We have just have one. this week. Says for immediate release the. Us department of veterans affairs recently dedicated a two hundred sixty nine acre national cemetery in core corfu new york twenty miles east buffalo to provide for the first time a nearby. Va barrel option for over. Seventy seven thousand veterans and their eligible family members the secretary wilkie undersecretary for memorial affairs randy reeves new york. Lieutenant governor kathy hotel. Us senator chuck schumer and us representative. Chris jacobs all unveiled the dedication plaque for the western new york national cemetery. Construction of the initial phase of the cemetery is ongoing with. I expect to before the end of this year with the addition of western new york the state currently has six open via national cemeteries would long gerald solomon saratoga calverton bath and long island while cypress hills. National cemetery in brooklyn is close to new interprets. Do the covid nineteen pandemic. the dedication ceremony was to the public and attendance was limited in accordance with federal cdc state and local guidelines and mandates however photos and video of the dedication can be found on the national cemetery. Administration's facebook page for more information. Contact western new york. National cemetery director. James metcalfe the second at seven one seven six three nine four six four four and for more information on. Va burial benefits or to apply for a barrel benefits in advance of need. You can visit the be as national cemetery. Ministrations a website at www dot c. m. dot v. a. dot gov or call one eight hundred five three five one one one seven all right so this upcoming weekend. On this sunday december thirteenth it will be the seventeenth anniversary of operation red dawn. Which was the operation that captured saddam hussein. Couple months ago. October it also the twenty seventh anniversary of black hawk down. One of the guess from this week's interview is an army veteran. Both those operations firsthand. He was in the army for twenty five years. Twenty of those being delta force. And i say one of this week's guest because he is joined by his spouse who is an award winning filmmaker and photographer in her own right. She's ran and embedded with seal team's green berets army rangers during their trade scenarios for weeks at a time. And it's been awhile since we've had a veteran on their spouse i. I don't think we've done that since backpacks for life Way back in the archives is one of the first interviews. I did but much like backpacks for life these two our team. They are co ceo's of the all secure foundation and the foundation's mission is to assist special operations warriors and their families heal from the trauma of war so without further. Ado i bring to you army veteran. Tom and his spouse gen saturday enjoy. Welcome tom. jen is it sadly yes. Got it perfect outstanding you know. I don't think we've had a couple on an over a year here on during the battle. I think it was back in episode. One forty seven Bread asandra in madeira Backpacks for life. But it seems like you. Two are glued at the hip which was great. How did you to meet wild. That story We are glued at the hip. And it's it's one of those things to where a joke at front call her like my my my My dog she's disability kennedy but it in loving lovingly. of course it's like. I'd never go without her. And it's one of those things where we we talk about family. We talk about how reports family and how our our actions don't match words a lot of times like my family's most thing in the world to me yet. We constantly deployed go away and train and they don't see us but we met while training and she was asked. I let her show. That's her half of it about how she was asked to do. This recording and videos for military. She was turning it. Down repeatedly did was not comfortable. I At the time i was doing advertising marketing film and photography in the commercial sector had spent twelve years in that world. So working on your your talk among language on combat camera. So oh yeah well i. It never even entered my mind did i was doing some sports marketing. I had worked a little Saint louis cardinal end was working with ironman triathlete so i was asking him on a special operation training mission. You know saying hey you have experienced shooting actions so hey come in shoot these realistic training exercises and said no the first three times so might i. Don't know anything about special operations or military exercises in house exterior votes. Whoever none zero i meet my dad was air force but was out Before i was born brothers air force but he left. When i was twelve so of course they had a very military support a family. And you know. But i i didn't know anything about special operations in Ended up going on getting talked into it. Actually the guy told me you don't ever have to go back if you don't want to. But i already told him you're coming on this first mission so you have to go and this guy is a former. I hear that i hear that. Shoot our house alarms going off okay. We were cooking still. So we're we're eggs crisis averted. The port i just cut out was was a was about good minute or two. The the fire alarm going kind of a hilarious. But that's not the hassle sundays on fire. Larry okay so we were talking about. How youtube jen you're embedded and your your boss told you that You know you you have to go on this one. I've already told them. Yes so i went and ended up absolutely loving the experience. I felt like i always wanted to national geographic photographer. And i thought hey this is the closest get you know. Thirty eight at the time and Just got to see underneath a curtain. It was really an amazing experience. How long did you to meet atlas twenty thirteen two thousand thirteen Gotcha gotcha well. I'm tom i'm going to go a little bit. Further than seven years Back to when you first decided to enter the army when and where was that in. What did you do it yet. Another another woman. My life My one of my best friends in high school had joined the army had gone off to basic training and i was in columbus. Indiana and i was Going to college in blowing my parent's money and had come back and was building where confer construction company building houses. I love to do that and he had asked me when. I'm the training to take over my business. I'm working with all these older contractors. You know i'm here. I'm this young high school kid. It was real quick. Turn off owning own company sounded break. You know when you're eighteen. But i love to who i would be in charge of and i was like. That's going gonna be me can't do this. I got to do something else. And i was kind of boy so my friend comes back from basic training or we're going to a concert one night and he's telling me all about it. It's gray run around you to shoot cousin going to jeremy for couple years. That's cool you know. He's like you should do it so in that hour. Long drive from columbus indiana to indianapolis indiana go to john cougar concert. I decided to join the army. And we've got indianapolis ended up going to recruiting station and It also going to be a medic. Or i want to do this or that. I d like to blow stuff up so to combat engineer. And i'm sure that's what they needed at the time and signed up for that and went home after the concert till my parents had joined the oregon. What freaking out. And and so. I packed up went to basic training. That was a summer of eighty five. The fall of eighty five. I went to the army figure. Eighty six okay. And i was going to go in for four years. Get college money and get out. And i don't know what happened. I blinked jan You know somebody asked me you realize you know for a bonus at nineteen years ago by Shera i'll do another six years. That was one of those things where you make the decision you get that check in and you put it in the bank and then you're like oh what have i done. Now you ended up doing twenty five Twenty them delta force. If you're listening to the intro if you've listened to the intro You now know that. Tom has been some of the most visible. I would say visiting military missions out there I wanna i wanna talk about. Thomas is about all mogadishu at the time of this interview and we're coming right up on the anniversary of the battle. It's a twenty twenty seven right twenty seventh anniversary. Aren't you gotta right marines. M. c. i. Worked okay the battle. Mogadishu down You had to have been a young book at the time Me through your experience on that mission back back then. Yes that was. That was the mission of different from the rest. It was all the other missions is what i thought combat. Was you know the excitement. Fear the good guys win. Nobody really gets killed or injured heart than three october happened. And it was You thrust into fear. I was terrified. However i just kept operating doing my so appease breaking down everything that we're supposed to do and so it looks like you're not afraid you know we jumped off helicopter on days ran right towards a you know a bunker or a position with him she got it wasn't in arizona. And you guys were crazy on my. I didn't think about it. you know. Teach you to assault your inbox. You know right. So i just did. It was kind of a far one. So you don't really do that long alleyway running down but you know bravery but poor poor judgment the time and it was like well i just you just do we kinda to do at the time and i did it for the guys left the the chaos and everything that you see in the movie a black hawk down if you've seen it. Yeah that's where i learned a lot about. The movie are a lot about the battle that night. Because you see your position you see what you're doing and that's kind of your your limitations for the evening and then when everybody puts that story together like auditing know that happened it's a it's a unique Experience that a lot of elements were in tandem. You had rangers delta force The trucks the vis What was delta force's primary mission. During that during that operation we were going to go in and and killer capture a bunch of these lieutenants in hopefully adid. We've gotten a a signal that they were having a high meeting. We waited for him. You know sit on helicopters against signal that they were there. We launched in and just a bone infield everything was different. The brownout was was so thick that the helicopters got pushed outside of the security perimeter. We were already taken. Rpg on infield and it was near the car market on where they sold all the weapons on the black market as well as years. Later we found that it was very close to an al-qaeda training facility to where they restraining the militia on how to take down helicopters more efficiently so on that that evening that afternoon. Turning into that night you know. Eighteen hours was was a lot of those al qaeda recruits. America's fought were kind of the first time. I didn't really know it. For years later. The volume was so great the so expect that it was just. I felt like i was on my heels all night. I didn't know we were fighting al-qaeda out there and nobody did two years later and it was like. Wow so that was the first allowed to alcaide being trained interesting and similar. That was that was our introduction to we would know it three years kacha. Sorry go ahead and continue. No that's a that's okay. The and it was just one of those long nights of of. I can't believe that happened. A of turning the corner after the after the initial mission went down on the you know we we. I think. Detained about twelve or or some on adults in through the back. The five time and the conways full slowed us open. Drive up helicopter. Scott shut down and then i actually watched one of his shot down and crash off to our northeastern ha. And that's the one that we decided you know. We had to go in encircling insecure so it was one of those i knew the mission to change. I didn't know for how long i didn't really consider. You just did what you were told. I was young. I wasn't in charge of much. You know i was running around shooting at thanksgiving break and stuff so not having responsibility takes a lot off of your plate And off. I found out years later. Takes a lot out of your soul as well. Those leaders are making decisions not just for themselves but others. I was just making decisions for myself and so that that part was easier on me internally but the loss of life once you start seeing your friends go down You lose that sense of invincibility eighty and the reality sets in. Wow okay this is not I hate to say video game. That's not what i was used to back. it is not a training scenario. This is not the good guys always win. This is a lot of luck involved. You know there's a lot of training involved in skill but there's also a lot of guys run around with bullet holes in their clothes and their gloves and they just got missed by inches cheese. You start thinking about how you know you see women and children shooting at your friends. And it's just the whole concept of battle battle is changed instantly from me on the ground. I was adapting adjusting entire night understood. Now you talked about you did see a part that was portrayed in the film Now were you personally portrayed in the film or was it was just more events that were in the film that you'd you remember. There were events in the film that i had done that. Yeah it was told a range perspective since unit didn't do a lot of input for the movie. There was a couple of people that were out they could did but they're only telling the stories that they saw as well and i think some of the stories that you see the movie that that i did either. A lot of people did that during the night or that was told from a different perspective ranger doing something that i had You'll see things in the movie. Were were ranger. does something that you know. Unit member did but it was told from a range of perspectives. So they were trying to get the story out but only with With people that they could get it out with absolutely totally makes sense Now i want move onto that that second mission that kind of alluded to now as you got older you start. Leading these tier one missions including operation red dawn capture saddam hussein. Walk me through walk. Walk me through your experience on that one. That was a a lot of months of different squadrons trying to down the same person. I it got to the point of chasing alvis right. Everybody thinks he's here. he's not you know. And so it's one of those jokes went on so many hits looking for guys that new irs you know. Saddam was or or his his key. Handlers in you got agency chasing one line of a family members are until chasing another line of family mur- so nobody really knows ossuaries. Who's hiding because he was so secretive about and luckily our until guy took the right family line and we got word one night. I mean after months months chasing and gone on his that. You didn't lead anywhere one night that year we got a and this was just after president bush visited my troop was dobson charging security for for president bush's visit to iraq on thanksgiving and he asked me before he went on stage after he landed his You know hey we're gonna get it. Get tau is funny. The way did not yes sir. But wouldn't that be a nice christmas present. he goes. Yeah that'd be nice. I gotta go talk to these boys and he walked out and he starts talking to everybody in the mess hall at the international airport there in baghdad and i stood there thinking what i say i think i just promise the president that i deliver the same by december. You're completely over thinking of what you said right immediately. The president that states. You like Okay we'll be forgot that you know just sending him as i was just passing the time. Meanwhile it's probably in one ear out the other for him much going into head like that so one night we got a. We got into hit on a guy coming down from the north from the decrease area. They thought it was. One of saddam's handlers. He's going to be in a house north northern baghdad and i took my troop we lost out to it like any other night rolling down the street in noticing a guy walking the of the sidewalk and entering another building. I just took note of it and we went. We took down the house. There was nothing really important there and start taking fire from across the field. You know further northern kind of odd that they would shoot at us with our vehicles and there's no reason to shoot at us. I thought maybe they trying to drag aware polls away and i sent a team down to the house as there was a guy walking down the street from this direction. I don't know so went down to the house and clear to found him underneath a mattress without a plastic. Ak47 plastic like a toy almost shot him and shot him in might have been the end of that search obviously but didn't shoot him detained brought back and he didn't give us anything you know at the time so i turned him into the big boys nfl to balat and i'd say probably four to six hours later as we're trying to catch some sleep i shaking. You know shaking me awake. Eight eight-time start planning. We gotta stop go again. Really guy who caught you really knows. Ressam is suffered a thousand times. Not waking my guys up this. So i get up and i start planning a little bit and it starts to the grill starting to get exciting so with the team leaders up. It's getting more setting so we wake up all the guys up and let them take our planning. And then we've got this entire plane with our other element that's living up decrease in two different targets. There's the the little farm the fish farm and then there's a a house in the middle of the town and of course the other the other true got to pick the location since they were there living into creek. You know so. They got to pick the location. They picked the pharma fish farm and they sent us to the house town. I thought great. I always get the most dangerous message. I one of the motown another. Yeah yes sin sin sin my troops there you know and Experience he was he was in but he was market. It's not bad he knows what's up so we go in there and it goes down without a catch. There's a seems like a ninety year old guy to cook he's the sheffer saddam saddam hussein. And his. i don't have much Fishes in the freezer. And he's still. I don't know saddam i dunno. No no no you know. And i'm like why so much visit fish in the freezer and then you could see his face change and so i knew it hit. He starts faking a heart attack. He starts vacantly his wife stein. All kids are dying on me. I told him that. Keep that guy lies. I'm gonna put him on the front of the things going to point out recidivism a drive there some trying to call on the radio until my boss. You know this radio sites and they send me return to base out. I know i know the position. I note returned to base some of kidding me up screaming so we return to base. Come to find out place. He was gonna take us troop was already. They're done. they're deed in full amount of the whole and we got back to the palestinian cret. And i'm fuming and my sergeant majors come on over here come over on calm you download it any open. The door we walk in there sits you know the president of iraq and its shares looking like dirty uncle. Fester with leaves in his beard out of his hair. Were furious. Because i didn't know they had captured yet because it was the they weren't going to put that out on the radio and i knew i knew i had the location. This guy was gonna take me there. And i believe him. I knew he was going. Take me to that farm o'callaghan they had already. They had already started feeling with him. God like you don't understand. I know the location like negative. Rtd you gotta be kidding me. This is gotta be the worst or ever so we get in. There is a drag me over to open the door and shows me like k. Gives you happy now. Yeah ago but he looks like dirty on professor nestle jumps spits on me and allow and i just looked at him like man really loved. Knock you out right now. But that's okay. You'll be dead soon and i just walked out the door and another ten minutes later. They combine put him on the helicopter. An aussie goes to to his fate. But i remember writing back in the vehicle back to baghdad at night with my with my sar major us just smiling smiling for you so happy because goes i no longer have a retention issue. You know this word been going on for a while. We've been looking for soft saddam hussein and and you know everybody thinks you get two leader. It's over sometimes. And yeah he goes though. I know this is just a a small victory at least at least it excites people and people don't get burnt out on the war. They actually completed a large mission that we were going for and that was his. That was his worry was retention. Hit up interesting. The when you saw. Saddam in that chair did The conversation with the president did that go back to. Did you go back to that whole ride. It didn't it didn't until They had some weapons tonight. They had a pistol they were gonna give him as a gift and i was like. Oh yeah make it. A christmas gift. Because i can tell that we might have them by christmas since got a or it was like i made it beyond wanted to write him a letter and actually my wife and i wrote him a letter up last year outstanding. Any any any rotas back. And i was thanking him for everything and joking about that nice. Wow that's incredible. I mean. I've heard that about about well. Bush rights people back. It's pretty cool. He's he's pretty cool. If you can get his number from somebody i mean. That's hard part is knowing somebody. Luckily i was telling the story to somebody who who's a donor of ours for foundation. And i was telling this story and then he was like man if i could just get his number the way he paints you know for p. t. s. And all that. I would love to share a story and thank him for everything. He has over his personal systems number. And i'm like whoa what he goes to. Why'd you tell that story. I've told that story hundred times. No one's handed me the contact information for the president today as day. Ask yourself why you tell stories. Then if you don't want results. And i will thank you and so we wrote him After a while we kind of sat on it for a while. Like okay yeah. Let's not be those people that just right so thoughtful letter. We wrote him and his wife and you know they wrote thoughtful litterbox and thanked us and then asked us not shared on. Social media has my wife's taken picture. I'm gonna post this. Amazing i go. There's a little cardi here. This is do not share this. It's you know it's doors matter on the gop. That's it yeah. Now that's outstanding though that is outstanding also a read your bio You attended german ranger school. That seems like a very very unique piece of training. Yeah it was called For like a one man army i think is stands for. It was a they had one slot and there was like Almost thousand people in in our brigade the tried out for that one slot and and i was lucky enough to make it and they sent. They opened up another slot an interpreter with because no. He's a english other than i didn't speak german. And so he went and he failed out and probably the first week so the rest of german religious school for me was miserable. Yeah try to crack. Pass the time as it there until a joke and his germs. Just look at me like start smoking cigarettes on my up as okay guys. I'm going to go over here. Start polishing my boots. I'll be crying. Don't worry about it. Just it was relentless. There was no no break. Now the guy would give instructions blah blah blah. Everybody take off running like what he looks like hide. No find twenty minutes on a shit. I took off running like okay. I can hide somewhere and nobody can find me. You know and i get twenty minutes. And i am climate in the bottom big huge brush pile and i fell asleep. I think i will go two and a half hours later. Discrimination air horns and tugs trying to find me sticks in this pile of brush and it finally come krahn there. Okay you pass like but but you're late you know so as well sleep. Sorry it was one of those long schools of gist. No connection really no connection with with Allow humans except the instructors who spoke broken english. Just like the mess. With what is is there something you pulled out of that training. That was unique to them. And that you're able to apply no nothing. That was unique to them. I pulled out a lot of being able to hang out on my own and be self. Reliant rely on just my own inner thoughts jokes to keep me saying as news to learn how to work with people without having any communication skills whatsoever. Just come watching in pantomime. I'm gonna do this in hand gestures and you get it done. And in the end we were kind of working together side by side without speaking. And i kinda of knew what was going on so that was interesting for me. Yeah absolutely absolutely Okay jen gonna gonna gonna come back to you for being. This is a veteran story. Centric podcast. I hardly ever get to enjoy it when it when i get a spouse Here for an interview in the interview chair right next to their significant other. You know. Tom was in a role where he was gone a lot. Now you said you came in and twenty thirteen. Was he still in at twenty twenty thirteen. He was not no he was already out He was still doing special operations training. So you know. I think re-met he was still going overseas Still traveling all the time. True but yeah. He was not active anymore. I retired December two thousand ten and she loves humbly talks. Like i wasn't a military wife. I'm a veteran spouse. However i know she seen more than most being embedded was special operations videoing watching the watching. It's go down for three years watching these guys cry and go get killed. Come back yeah. That's what started her her path of for warriors path. Okay we'll looking through that lens gen pun intended. What what do you think is the biggest challenge for a military spouse. I would say that. The biggest challenge i see in that i hear about i talked to you. Hundreds and hundreds of spouses well is that. There's a disconnection obviously that happens in deployment and there's very little training or planning for that in it sounds silly but really disconnection in a relationship is what crushes a relationship. So when you don't have a plan to say goodbye and say hello and even plans for wire. Deployed resentment builds. a lot of military members. Feel like they can't or don't want to share stories from overseas back at home. So i hear a lot of resentment to like. Hey you know this is my spouse is biggest part of his or her life is is this military Job in family. And i don't feel part of it. I feel excluded from it in. So i know that's a huge challenge us as a spouse year like we should build a share everything with each other. This is the reason that we were married. Yes actually the biggest. I don't know how you mitigate that you know. It's very hard for veterans to talk about a lot of their experiences because they don't think that their their spouse would understand it you know. Oh yeah we hear that. A lot is redo. We hear that. So much. And i tell them i said look a lot different styles and types of people out there that we have the ones that want to be special and so they don't tell what they're doing so secretive and they don't realize what they're doing with that right when you are secretive person's mind builds up that secret. What is is worse off than probably really. It's usually wanna come back. They wouldn't understand. I don't wanna bring them the horror and then you have the ones that come back and tell him everything and i say you come home you share with need to share your share your story with him. You don't tell them about the blood and guts or you tell them the level they can understand it. They know something's wrong they they're they're connected to you. You don't need words to have that feelings and emotions so you need to share. What's going on when i asked my wife. You know we'll ask our partners. Hey hey what's going on what we see something. We see their face different. There is different other slumped a little. It was gone and they tell us. Oh nothing you know. That's wrong or you know. That's a lot and i told my wife one time ago. I asked you what's going on now. I'm okay look you're during my radar because my radar says something's wrong. And that's how. I wanna stay connected to you when you say nothing the screwing on my radar. So if i'm correct in something's wrong don't wanna talk about it. Please say that. Yeah and so we. We share with everybody just be honest about. I don't wanna share certain parts. But i but i do need to talk about how it made me feel. I don't need to tell you all the secrets if there are any but i don't eat act like there. Earnings that communication and awareness. Piece that we bring to people is what's what's key in west saved and help me and many others awareness of self and what bothers me awareness of our relationship and our connection and honesty and the communication and a lot of guys. Tell us we don't have those tools. I don't know how to be a civilian. I don't know. I'm like you have every tool on the planet you plan you. Primary alternate Plants you've over plan you've done things in your life and you've you've traveled around the world. You had to plan last so plan your relationship. You just don't apply it to your relationship makes sense While you were in and we asked this question on every episode of the battle while you're in gimme either your best friend or your greatest mentor i would say. My courageous mentor was scotty miller. He sees a. He's no general. Probably living in. I live in stanford years down but not doing much came in right after i did to the unit and learned so much. I remember him in somalia. Taking over from general psychotic than currently golic Was there for all of the missions. Except three october his father had died the to go. On general general miller who was upset. Believe at the time waiting slot to be a troop commander Got thrust into an on. Three october room standing in courtyard asking was as always like this i was. I don't think i laughed. And i go. No no it's definitely not always like this. He's okay just check it what what did he. What did he teach you. Patients Thinking through before you answer questions if if you ask general question you'll see him pause and thoughtfully process. He'll start to talk. Be no something right off the bat as formulating his answer. He doesn't rush anything. It doesn't need to impress anybody with how fast he can speak and answer I think he proved that when he took over the war in afghanistan was asked them. What's the what indata eighty shooting for his neighbor. Going give an end date. People is giving you a day since never been right. I'm not gonna give you an end. Date predict something. that's so unpredictable. Most people take those answers off one year. We're outta here. You know at a never works out that way. No no so he's he's just kind of honest That smooth calm presence in the all chaos very good. And i've always tried to be that for my for my guys very good very good general miller so you got out after twenty five years in two thousand ten. Why twenty five years. What was it like getting out because that was probably what right in the middle of the recession. Yeah you know. I getting out for me was was bittersweet. Obviously and i think you'll hear that from a lot of people when i got out i couldn't get out quick enough. I was so done. I was burnt out. I mean you know you're done well before you know you're done. Oh yeah so so you realize it. Your way gone and i was gone. I was getting divorced. My son was I was drinking. i was miserable. I didn't have plans for future. And the day i got out. I didn't have a job seven days later. I think ten days later. I was flying over to amman jordan. Where i would live for a couple years and i was straying. The jordanian army special forces qualified and i was running programs there so i was doing what i always did and i was making more money and i was having a great time yet. I still wasn't home. Ever you said you. You just mentioned you didn't know your you didn't know your son. Yeah i just. I just can't doing what i knew. I mean i always on autopilot. I was afraid to do anything different. That's screwed up now. And when that work dried up and went away. I came back and i would lay in bed all day and watch. Tv at all night. Sleep all day. And i ate like crap. I didn't know what to do. And so i started just tanking into the point of despair loss of tribe and and i just felt like a burden to society and i started doing contract work in. That would carry me over from time to time and you'd see some friends and talk. I was still going down that hole up until mangas. About seven years ago almost took my own life and it was just in a blink to friends in stranger. Kinda got out of the car. That was driving garage. I lied tim till met phone. Call catch up later and You know they walked away from the car and put a bullet my chamber. And i'm sat there thinking you know two things. I feel sorry for rental car company. And i hope i don't screw this up and the person that i didn't know started texting me over and over and over again and finally it. I stopped what i was doing. Picked up the phone. Ami techs runner in the last one. I read your late. When i saw your late i snapped back into having a mission and i clear my weapon put in my bag and went back down and met. Everybody and i didn't tell them what i'd done for two or three months maybe longer and ended up marrying. that person. texted me that that paid attention to me and and and save my life that day. It was one of those. You don't know this but couple months ago you saved my life. And she was like no way what the burden. I think that power that burden. That fear struck her and she put it together with all of the loss of life in a special offer operations trainings that we we did for years after that together now And said we need to help these people after deployments. We don't need to send them off to war the best also training they can. Somebody's got that already. We need to catch them when they call them and their families. Yeah you know. I haven't heard your speak. I haven't heard you speak or admittedly. I haven't read your book. But from some of the blogs. And i've read them on the secure foundation's website Your foundation that you both are co ceos You seem to be very open about post traumatic stress. I am up until yesterday. Be honest until yesterday. I've been terrified about how open i've been the judgment. My wife has a book coming out february sixteenth. I screw this up every time. I look at it. Like don't hit me. It's like mine but the wife side. The here's what happens to us die and it's very open. You know about what. I did which she did. What in just like my book was and of been terrified about it. You get a lot of judgement. You did this. Your judge ugo cheated you judge or you drink tonight. She get josh. i'm fine. i don't care if he judged me because leaders lead Leaders get out on the dance floor. I and so after my wife's smacked me about the head for a couple of months. I decided to write the book and every time somebody reads the book. I see a post. Hey this isn't your normal chest thumping military book. This guy's talking about how screwed everything up. How almost took his own life. And i wanted to do that for all the real people out there who you don't hear about the ones that just kill themselves. Strong silent once that just they don't wind -rageous decided one day. They're going to do it. And i was tired of that. And i want them to know that. Everybody's feeling that way. Most people are feeling that way people screw up. They go to shame cycle. they feel worthless. They feel like they're burden have ruined. My children's lives so many friends that all the time and until yesterday when one of my close friends we've talked for over an hour on the phone and talk that long years he was in somalia's i mean. He was escorted. Sorry majors well. He went through hell as well and he's opening up like tom. Just i've finally. It's honesty is just being truthful to yourself about how you're feeling quit the bravado putting the wall up god's he finally finally got. You finally heard me he goes. I read your book and he kept referencing. My book and i'm thinking is working. You know it's working the the guys that call me and talk to me. Orig- bugging you can do it. I can do it. You went through it this normal go through it. Hey if that's what works for you. I'm glad it's working. Yeah i mean it's you know being that honest and open you're also telling others that it's okay to talk about it and you're also showing a way to was it. Was it cathartic for you to write that book so much. I cried so much. I read it for the audible version. Two and that was very very difficult after writing it to have to vocalise it out loud in front of people in a studio And then try to hold it in. If even that debbie people let it go. You know your app be. Don't try to hold any can't yeah. It was so cathartic so healing and so And it helped me remember things. Along the way that i'd forgotten and cited start working on that started dealing with those other things that i you know and others the see if they follow it and and if it's okay for other people to do the dance for thing to get out there they might dance for a little bit but there's always a third fourth and then at crowd and then everybody is on the dance floor because it's okay. Yeah absolutely said your wife helps you get through to take to write it. I mean you're you're coming from delta force. You're not you know as far as a university academic what how did you how. How is the process of writing. How did it. How was it for you how you how were you able to work through. That had a co author steve jackson. He's amazing yeah. I would write down some some stuff and then i would talk to him either on phone or face face visits or i would write some stuff down emails. I would read a chapter myself. And then he would take it and fix it you know. And so he would frame kind of the whole story outstanding. We would start working on chapters of that story and then he would start moving them about. Instead of like the beginning to the end it went from the beginning to a flash the and then go back and forth calica movie An and i liked the way it was going as. I don't. I didn't read that much before this. Yeah and the process kinda turn me on reading a little more and it was. It was kind of enjoyable for me to see the process where it can get it out in watching clean-up a story and make it better you know he has his vocabulary larger than mine so he can clean it up. Exact throw some words in there. I ended up googling. What's that word again you. I don't have to use the same word over and over again. It was great. It was great. Yeah great time outstanding. Yes so he can have fixed it up and in really helped till story. That's good to know because we've had authors On the on the podcast before g michael hoff bass on amazon author. Dale dye has written books. jeff stryker is reno here. He wrote his auto. Biography also writes fiction. But i think you're the first person i've talked to. That's actually like okay. I i am not an author by trade. So i helped. I was helped with another author. And that's good to know for those that because there's so many stories out there that that can be told need to be told and it's good to know that there are other ways to tell them if you're like. Hey i'm not a professional writer but you can still get you can still get it done. I had four guys from the unit after that. Hit me up after the other guy said you're writing a book immediate. What are your seal bob. Thanks i don't even know what it's bad yard attack me. I get it. i literally went through the unit. With into the entire time got the book proved the unit was the first ones to read the book. Read it twice it out as okay got published i was. I'm not worried about anything but lots guys hit me about. Hey how'd you write the book before we wanna write a book another another another day. We're going to write a book. I'm writing a book. I just don't know how to marketed. Not beer here. It this guy this guy up. You don't need to know how to write. You don't even know how to store. Just talk talking to your recorder. Talk on the phone. Talk to somebody who knows how to write. That's that's their job in a very good very good now. Jen is sounds like you've been with tom through a a a part of his transition since he got out an a very. I mean he. He gave testimony how it was a very difficult time that you helped him with. How did you handle this time in your marriage. It was tough. We we joke that We kinda started off backwards. You know like a lot of people kind of get to this place. If the honeymoon phase is the number one in your signing divorce papers at a ted we worked our way from a ten back down to a tool one now so started off the yes. Down numbers year that was bomber to that first year was the roughest one. Oh my gosh i we. After i saw the first two years that we were together we lived in separate states resign each other when we were training. Sometimes i would be on it for twenty days so you know i see come often but you know it went from that to him movie to saint louis With his sixteen year old son in all of a sudden. We're like boom. You know. I had a second and fifth grader. At the time it was smooth to. I think to a step up yesterday. She said nobody tells you how tough it's gonna you know it is. It's a step parent like i said. I don't think anybody can prepare you for who i think you just have to walk through it so it was definitely challenging town. Listen up. he was in the same space that he was in service. Where you know you. He feel that he could talk about. Pt s in fact. He went to anger management therapy. I in you know. The guy was phenomenal. He was eric clapton therapist while the boroughs. Yeah is this guy in savannah Human know that until he went saw the sky but he was phenomenal. He told time you're not alchoholic. Times like thinking alchoholic a drink every day. He said alchoholic. And you're you don't have anger issues you have. Pt s in. These are the symptoms of t. s. That was really the first time somebody broke it down in explained it us and i'll never forget tom coming home from that appointment. A calling me in the the relief in his voice. The i mean he was almost giddy about it like to have something to call what he was feeling to name. It is really powerful and then we get to work once. We kind of knew what. It was very good now. Tom you say with did you used like. Va community care to find the serapis this on your own or have you used a services before i have not. This was all on my own kind of forced and drink i ended up getting a dui and dui was like you need to attend some kind of therapy and i'm like Leverage ended road race therapy. so let's try anger management. And when i did that it opened up the door to something really really is wrong with me. it's not just any to fix and spot fix. I need to cure this cancer. It's not a lack of a boil on my arm from kansas up. And i need to take care of the boy right this really now what i needed to do. I didn't need to fix the symptoms. So was i. weakening. For me. And i was happy because i had something to work on again versus an unknown thing and avid say. Even as a veteran at that time. I wasn't even a veteran spouse. I was a a girlfriend at the time when you know it really started helping him. Research in. I didn't have any military help in that areas. You know someone on the outside i. I didn't even really know what the va offered or what they did at some silly now. But at the time. I was just google searching. You know anger management problem drinking. You don't know unless you're actually starting to find that information or like there's no reason to go to the va. If you're not even a veteran spouse or or you know so that makes total sets. And i and i tell people for years and they would complain. The via doesn't doesn't go your just regurgitating formation. If you haven't been there then you're not. You're not taking your own experiences. I've never had an issue with the. Va i tell people you know. It's one of the largest organizations plant. You might have to wait in line. Now there's a lot of people waiting in line to get free care and that that really really puts back order on things and so they don't understand the process they just understand that. I didn't get seen right away today or something. And there's always other avenues out there. People stop at the first shut door like with air. We say the same thing where we went to five therapist before we found one. That was amazing. You know and that's important to know that you had to go through five people. Occa- i i've gone to and suck. I'm not going to therapists. Unless they've been to combat a ho really well then should therapy therapists nazi you unless you've been to school and you get your have their jobs that they do trust them to do their job. And it's it's not easy. Go to combat to understand what combat makes you feel like. You need to understand up to help people that feel that way. Yeah and so. I try to tell him you know. They don't shut the door on the first negative than you. Don't regurgitate nate information year. When you haven't experienced it yourself. Now i i completely shut the door on my first experience with the va and shared on the podcast. Before i ran into a physical therapist. I have shoulder issues and i ran to a physical therapist that did not. I knew what was wrong with my shoulders. I knew how to treat it. I explained how i need this. This needed to be treated based on the. What had the department defense a medical service and it went back to square one and it was a bad experience so i i walked away from the va for three or four years. And then i got into the connect care program where you can find a local one out in town. If you're over fifty miles from via medical facility you can actually go to a unapproved doctor out in your local area. That's good no. I live here. Well i don't think that saint louis. I don't think i lived near many options. Yeah so if you're over fifty miles. That's that's part of the new mission act is you can find community care provider in your area that the va will pay for. That is amazing. And that's the same. That's the same new information on like that. We're like oh the va's don't go to the va you know or or you can't get this. You can't get know. People are making changes to help people. Now you have to relook what's out there and you find out things that they changed in fix now still delivering the old message. Yeah like i said like you said the. Va's over three hundred thousand people and it's amazing. How one person can change your opinion on those three hundred thousand people or that. Three hundred thousand person organization just it. It just takes one person. So i so i. After after about three years i finally i finally went back and actually was able to help the connected care so and then this podcast I do what's called benefits breakdowns. Every on the fives and zeroes. I look i go internal into the. Va go find a programmer in office. And i shake him. And i go what do you do. How do you help. Veterans are eligible for your services just to cause this podcast is part of my journey to to try to figure out what visas. 'cause you're right. It's huge and there's so many services so many different things that that a lot of us as veterans don't know so that's that's one of the reasons for this cast right and there's so much attached to it you don't know what's available to go research and find out right yep and then when you go to that office and you bump into human being right. And they're having a bad day. Don't trash entire office in the because that human being at a bad day and spoke to you poorly now because you don't know that renzo one bad incident tell people give him four or five tries. You might run four five angry people in a day. It's especially healthcare when you're dealing with people who need help and they're not necessarily good mood so you deal with them all day and that you might not be a good boot somebody comes in. You don't speak kindly to them. And i hate the hate that office. You had a bad experience with that one person who had a bad day. Maybe no yeah. I i do appreciate the perspectives on my really. Do so your journey in your journey with With dealing with ptsd did it. Was that the spark of the all secure foundation for you. Jen absolutely i mean jan. If you reading my book you read into the hero that book and if you look at the foundation and i tell everybody you know i got a pretty face on the billboard. I'm beautiful i love that. Not true though is true is is. She's the brains and she stood up. She did the work she did. The research while i was ousted training and making money so we could eat and she create a foundation where you know she has a job. I have a job now. We bring in people help we help. We hope couples all time. We hope people everyday on the phone from nothing and it was a lot of work. A lot of struggling Doors closed in your face and by the way you need money money so real quick. Which was the foundation's mission. The foundation's mission is to help. Where your couples heal from from everything that has caused by disconnection and war. Gotcha yeah you want to help. You reconnected hall. We wanna up you reconnect with the families. Want to help you get down the floor and talk to your children again and help you get back to living your best possible life and feeling good about it now We started off. Can you call so and so it would cost so anderson would get shootout math like okay. We don't do that anymore so nobody wants out. They'll call us so we're just available and we've struggled with are we healers this over. That we don't know enough is a lighthouse. Were the beacon and we'll throw you some tools would teach you how to use them but you yourself have to do the work. Everybody asked to do the work. What are some things that you guys teach do What are some success story that you can share absolutely we so we started out as the resource library where we started launching programs. We launched a special operation warrior couple retreat workshop in so basically we have a trauma therapist. she also is an expert in addiction and does phenomenal. Work with married couples People job and call her the magic unicorn because we have had the toughest hype hitters. Call her they call us back and say i don't know what or how that just happened. An our of the stuff. She's teaching me is working. Say we're introducing to both to the couple because we know we can't just healed warrior because the wife or the spouse very possibly has secondary. Ptsd well so we're just healing the warrior we send him back into a home or they're still trauma they're still resentment there still disconnection guess what it's not gonna end very wealthy either still even though the warriors getting help even though the warrior is is changing behavior you have to change the foundation. You have to rebuild it. So they're great retreats. We do fun things activities. It's not a powerpoint presentation but you are going to learn the tools you're gonna practice the tools and then you're gonna get Get outside with a group in in. Have that tribe mentality in connection as well so it's a pretty powerful experience the before kobe. We had all over retreat for booked within thirty minutes while so we those are pretty busy. We also thomas. I go around. We speak a different basis imposed about a. p. t. s. resiliency. So we go. We talked to the gaels kind of helping them understand what could become a down the road and then we speak to the f. r. g. as well so we're always making sure that we're including the families in we a ton of success stories and thanked probably one of my favorite is Someone had come to are retrea. She's a soldier. he's a soldier and she was so worried about not fitting in not fitting in with the wives not fitting in with the guys you know. She was special operations Attached right I always word. Wanna make sure i'm using the right or but she hit deployed. She had served in combat roles. She had watched friends die sexual assault and trauma by former ranger so she had been through so much trauma. It was suffering as well. Her husband's and active duty ranger and she just came into this event so guarded by the end of it. She pulled me aside and said this just changed my entire life in four days and i came in here kind of not understanding what would happen. I've learned more about myself in my trauma in these four days. The last three years that. I've gone therapy and research in it's just getting eyeball to eyeball with people. A helping them understand. The biological effects of war of trauma in is something that are warriors in her stops. Don't understand is it's a natural biological response instead of this. I can't will it away. I can't shove it under the rug anymore. I don't know what's wrong with me. It's hey this is what's going on. This is how to fix it. And that's all people want is a roadmap in like. Tom said we can't recant. Row for you to shore. We'll give you the paddle. So now what did you start all this. I research in sixteen may became an official five. Oh one c. Three in seventeen gajah knows about three years. Now you've got some endorsements already how to jack osbourne tony larussa and others here about the foundation. I saw that bitter that was on your website. Yeah that's it makes friends of ours Very good friend of ours. Brad thomas He does silence in light. East doing the same thing through music to help people He's he's friends with jack. Osbourne and max martini. End smother guys on there as well and tony larussa and smelly folks. That are anyone st louis around saint louis. Tony said they're like yeah. We're lucky enough to be introduced to people like johnny moore for bass pro shops. Yeah and we do our retreat. Sarah and and we got. We did our one retreat and we got a call. Get go home from the retreat. We got a call from their office and said would you like to stay dir- expanding concert and you know friedrich's bentley concert and it was tomorrow the next day we'll share. We'll pay your cabin and say who's were dirks bentley. Wednesday is not your favorite but his country music in its concert. You guys get dirks belly. I had whitesnake once in washington state. Got eight here. We go again my tawny krahn across the hood of a car when you say that but you do go to go casino in washington state. You might get free tickets at some point. That's what happened. That's how that's how we met. Johnny morris was you know janoris gets on stage. We met right before we went onstage to do the pledge of allegiance the dirk stanley concert awhile and he shakes our hand talks to jan. And here's a little bit about better foundation we're doing he goes on station induces and that gives us one hundred thousand dollars right there. Oh my gosh and it we we drive home. It's a four hour drive from big cedar our house and we get a call that night. Hey can we send you plan. Can you do the pledge of allegiance down in florida for pause for the hurricane effort. Down there Yeah so listed. Private jet picks up. Let me check my schedule. We've got kids more smack in the show. You don't say no i don't know i'll try be a good good co parent here. I don't know say they'll eat cereal. It's fine life. We go down there and do that at so being friends with guys like that introduce you to other people that believe in what you're doing on goes a long way. Yeah goes along where tony lewis a call. The other day. I had a question for him. He's like let me call you in five minutes. I hear noise in the background. Light are you are you at the game. He's again at at the dugout. But somebody who's in your home run. So is a good time to call. You need to call me in the middle from major league game not that apart. We can talk in a minute. He's i asked okay. I mean he's just so supportive of the military. He so supportive of the troops. he loves anything. Anything these guys can do. They've just been so easy to get a hold of generous kind and supportive. So we're grateful for people who understand that the freedoms that they have come from the place that they come from our soldiers and their families. It's good to have a strong network. That's awesome to hear okay. Co-ceo now i'm sure was something like this decisions have to be made. How do you do it together. And how do you make. How do you mitigate those. I'm sure multiple pain points together as a tape. Exactly like marriage. I say yes dear outstanding. And i'll leave it at that. She's create she's creative. She likes to new ideas and start new things and get things going know me. I'm terrified of that. I like to get things going right away and stick with did a gone well so instead of getting dug in one place in stay in there and losing traction you know we get dug in and then when it when it starts to slip she comes up with other ideas of how to keep it going and i find it. I struggle. now we can't keep changing and she's like we're not changing. We're keeping up so the two different styles that we have Has really worked out. We kinda complete each other with that. So it's made it. Well she makes most of the decisions unless it's something military. She doesn't understand. listen. I mean we make them the contracting actress mae neither do i my wife and my wife said contracts analysts and i'm glad to have her in my life. I'm like tom tom. I'm the dreamer. She builds the ladder support network there. Okay number one piece of advice for veterans who wanna give back and star something to wanna start something to to give back. Please do so first and foremost all hands on deck. Salona help that needs to be had here in we partner with a ton of non profits and Were always available to kind of walk through our our contact form. Hit us up in in. We're happy to get on the phone. In fact we just talked to law enforcement officer every starting perama similar to ours but in his community so we walked him through that process as well. But i would say you have passionate and you have already committed to a life of service in just because you're out of service doesn't mean that this country doesn't need warriors you know even if it's not in the sense of a lot of guys get out and they might go in volunteer at their church or they go when they started different kind of program supporting their passion. Whatever you're passionate whatever you love to do bring that into your community and the rewards be tenfold. I mean. I know for tall. This foundation has helped him. He'll helping others. He'll has been a single single greatest mode of healing for him. That's what we tell everybody. funny start then next thing you know you're next starting foundations of ebay yet like how. We got your reluctant to be far. You know so. We'll help you with what we have. You know like she said. Find your passion and execute. You've already have the training guy on the drink. You know how to plan you know how to plan out. Where do you wanna be. What's the time be realistic and then backward plant from there and how you're going to get there and break it down to little chunks. You can google anything i. We didn't know anything. We start googling googling and found out to do this attitude that it's not easy so we do those whose whose passion is waning. A little bit sure but you gotta really want it and then and then find the hill. That's what we did. We found a lawyer that donated time. We've found people that believed in what we believed as well and contributed their skills to help us along the way. I just google and youtube youtube. Great you better. How to build built in bookshelves. We'll see about my passion here in in about a week for wayne's or not but that say google google is your friend. It is tom. What's one thing in service in service. You learned that you carry with you today. To hang onto your empathy and compassion. That's what i lost in the service. But that's what i was trying to be so when i found it i realized that you can be a better person. You can still be highly trained. Still take you have to. You can still do the job. Did you have to do and maintain your humanity compassionate empathy. Because when i lost it it it changed my entire life. And when i founded back if brought my life back and everybody i talked to no matter how long you talked to him. Comes to empathy and compassion. Whether it's for yourself or others that's a very interesting perspective you. I've never had anybody answer that question about something that they lost in service that they eventually read learned and relearned. What what it meant. That's interesting very good hurricane tom. Jen is there a veteran nonprofit or an individual who you've worked with or you've had experience with whom he'd like to mention shot ten linear to linear and warriors heart sadly. We said a lot of people their way and teddy was one of our first that we sent that way and years ago he went He was on everything you name it. He was on it or drinking it shooting and smoking it right. We didn't know and we were good friends. We did not know that we knew we'd partied together that we had no idea the level when he called one day shaking crying said. I can't finish my job. I'm on the race trying to teach shooting can't We didn't have any money. We called out. Got some help from a friend who told me the day before she ever need anything. Just call next day. today's air. I think i was calling him and got all the money we needed to send opted. Worse are years later. lesson he's gonna be he's gonna be up. He's going to work his way up in worse are he's going. He's doing waterville sayings back at his job training. What does what what what is heart. Do what we're where's heart is an addiction and ptsd. So they're like a mixture there. They're mortgaging down in texas. And i think they're looking to start more locations as well but they do first responders as well as veterans with. Ptsd an addiction. Gotcha so you'll go down there and you can either covered with insurance or they have funds and grants that help you out. They treat addiction and ptsd Together good Tom gen There anything else that. I may have missed or is there something important that you think that is important to share to anybody's listening to this. I like to tell everybody that You know number one. Greatest fears unfair to try. So if you're sitting there waiting and wondering there's not a soul undeserved that doesn't fail. It's what you do it when you fail. Get back up. he'd go. That's how you succeed. But i want those people to reach out. It's okay. I don't know how many times i have to say it's okay. It's a sign of strength is a sign of leadership. It's a sign of a true professional who realizes they need something more. We all don't have all the answers so we can't we can't act like it so reach out. Find the person who has those answers reach out to us out to somebody. We're not trying to to bring all veterans us right as we just want those people that are in need to go somewhere and get the help wherever that is as comfortable but to open up and share into realize. They're not allowed in the fight. Nobis allow everybody tells us a embarrassed. I don't. I'm the only one that really you just joined a larger family because the rest of us feel that way to getting out of the military. I was missing this camaraderie. It's frustrating when you try and talk to people that don't understand why you still have. The anger had the addictions of we did talk about that. Came to a point where it's like. Okay i really need to talk to somebody about this family more or less encourage me you know. Go go to the va. It's okay to go. it's okay to talk to people. Takes true strength to ask for hope. Here veterans real stories of strength and recovery at maketheconnection dot net. Open the think. Tom and jen for coming on and sharing their story. You can find more information about tom. And jen at all. Secure foundation dot org forward slash. Our story are born. The battle of the week comes by the way of our veterans. The day program everyday. Our social media team highlights a veteran on our social media platforms and on blogs dot v. A. dot gov. You can nominate your own veterans day by sending some photos and short right up in an email to new media at v. a. dot gov delta force was activated on november nineteenth nineteen seventy seven and herman atoms one of the units. I members the army drafted adams on october. Fourth nineteen sixty one and nineteen sixty four. The army selected adams as a green beret adams also commanded the alpha company eighty second signal battalion in nineteen seventy four in seventy seven. Adams became one of the original members of delta force. He served under colonel. Charlie beckwith the unions creator commander during this assignment adams complete emissions involving counter terrorism hostage rescue and special reconnaissance and nineteen eighty adams took part in operation eagle claw during the iran hostage crisis adams retired from the army in nineteen eighty-three after more than twenty one years service. He then took a job. With motorola's government electronics division as a project manager in this position adams uses military experience with communications trix to support. Us army special operations for another eighteen years after his retirement adam spent his days traveling in his rv and watch nascar. He also enjoyed playing golf and helping us. Children with home remodeling projects. Unfortunately adams passed away on august third 2017 at age. Seventy eight after. Battling leukemia army veteran herman l. atoms. We honor his service. That's it for this week's episode. If you yourself would like to nominate the battle better under the week you can just send an email to podcast at. Va dot gov khuda short right up. Let us know why. You'd like to see him or her as the borne the battle veteran of the week. And if you like this. Podcast episode hits subscribe button or on. I tunes spotify. Google podcast iheartradio pretty much. Any pod catching app not phone. Computer tablet or man for more stories on veterans and veteran benefits check out our website blogs via dot gov and follow the va on social media facebook instagram youtube rally point linked in interest. Dpd affairs u s department of veterans affairs. No matter the social media you can always find us that blue checkmark and is always. 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"Live from NPR news. I'm Jack Speer it's day two of the virtual democratic national. Convention included in tonight's prime time program is former President Bill Clinton, and New York congresswoman Alexandra Occasionally Cortes, NPR's Don Gonyea has more. The theme for tonight's mix of live and pre produced segments is leadership matters organizers say that will provide plenty of opportunity to contrast former vice president, Joe Biden's approach to governing with that of president trump. President Clinton will speak he has been a fixture at conventions going back to nineteen eighty eight while this will be representative of Cossio. Cortes First Convention speech also this evening the roll call of the states elected officials we'll be joined by an array of American voters. fifty-seven states and territories to cast the delegate votes officially making Joe Biden that twenty twenty Democratic nominee Don gonyea NPR news on the centennial anniversary of the Constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote a group of female attorneys. Generals announced they are backing Joe Biden's Presidential Campaign Group of Democrats includes current and former ages from twenty four states and territories. They stated history was made with the nomination of Senator and former California Attorney General Carla Harris to be Biden's running-mate. For the past three and a half years, the Republican led Senate Intelligence Committee has been investigating Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election panels. Now published the fifth and final report in it's probe NPR's Tim Mack explains the bipartisan report draws a direct link between the head of trump's campaign. In Russian intelligence officer, the Senate Intelligence Committee's Final Report says that in Twenty Sixteen former trump campaign chairman Paul manafort worked with a Russian intelligence officer named Constantine. Kalinic the report says Manafort shared internal campaign information with clinic suggests pulling data and the campaign strategy to beat Hillary Clinton. The committee also obtained evidence that clinic may have been related to the Russian government's hack and leak operations that led to the publication of stolen Democratic Party emails. The committee also found President Vladimir Putin personally ordered the hacking and leaking of those emails development that up ended the two thousand, sixteen presidential campaign in trump's favor. to Mac NPR, News, Washington Post Master General Louis to joy announced today he is hauling some operational changes until after the November election or to avoid any appearance of impropriety announcement been coming after some. Democrats claimed changes at the post office resigned undermine mail in voting and some states were planning to file lawsuits. Joyce said he'll spend his initiatives until after the election avoid even the appearance of impact on election mail joys trump Allahu to control the post office in June on Wall Street. Today, the Dow is down sixty six points. The Nasdaq up eighty one, the SNP closed at a new record high up seven points. This is NPR. Resurgence in Corona Virus Cases Francis now, mandating the wearing of masks in all workplaces from the central business districts in. Paris. To factories out in the provinces government hoping to be able to contain growing levels of infection without having to totally shutter the economy hasn't been makes France one of the few countries requiring universal mask-wearing. President Trump will pardon famed suffrage Susan B. Anthony on the one hundredth anniversary of the nineteenth amendment will help guarantee women. The right to vote is Randy Gordon from W.. X.. In Rochester reports, the move is being criticized in the city where anthony lived for many years Anthony was arrested in eighteen seventy two for violating a law that allowed only men to vote at that time. But speaking in front of the Rochester House where Anthony lived for many years and New York Lieutenant Governor Kathy Hotels said that if Anthony rely today, she would decline the president's offer Susan. Anthony is calling us right now saying I don't. WanNa be pardoned. I was proud to be arrested. I was arrested in this very home focal says Anthony celebrated her arrest and noted that although convicted she never paid her fine for NPR news. I'm Randy Gorman in Rochester was home were busier in July the latest sign. The housing sector appears to be emerging as one of the few areas of strengthening economy suffering during the coronavirus pandemic Commerce Department says housing starts were up twenty two point six percent in July the biggest gain since two thousand, sixteen home building was up in every part of the country last month with the biggest increase coming in the northeastern United States. I'm Jack Speer NPR news.

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"There's an open manhole man not pothole manhole in front of npr. Like i drove in. I'm like go to the building. And then he this clunk. And i was like what happened owner. That does not pretend good things come just like what if my car got stuck in the manhole before my first shift. Uh president biden is optimistic. This fourth of july will be one to remember where renowned independence's nation we begin to mark independence from this virus. What has to happen to make that a reality. I'm rachel martin wisco- detro- and this is up. I from npr news. New york governor. Andrew cuomo is now facing an investigation that could lead to his impeachment. The state assemblies leading democrat has authorized an inquiry into a growing number of misconduct allegations. That's in addition to an investigation by the state's attorney general and tomorrow marks a year since brianna taylor was killed by police with ronnie tailor made me like replay. Every interaction i've ever had with the police in louisville is accountability still possible. Stay with us. We'll give you the news. You need to start your desk. This message comes from. Npr sponsor hub spot. Who's crm platform makes it. Easy to scale helping marketing. Sales and service teams create delightful customer experiences align with ease generate leads and accelerate sales all on one platform. Learn more at hub. Spot dot com support. Also comes from track phone. Wireless giving you control over your wireless plan. There's no contract and unlimited talk and text smartphone. Plans start at just twenty dollars a month. All in america's largest and most dependable networks learn more at track phone dot com. President biden will require all states to make all american adults eligible for a corona virus. Vaccine by may first. He made the announcement during an address to the nation last night. The president also reflected on the past year and laid out a new effort to get the nation closer to normal by the fourth of july. To do that though. He says he needs the country board. There is hope in light of better days ahead if we all do. Our part joined now by white house correspondent asia roscoe aisha. Guess i question. Is the pair. Politics fourth of july party at my house are yours. At this point it has to be yours right now. I'm sticking together well. Let's talk about that. That july fourth goal that the president laid out. But i this this. More immediate may first goal vaccine. Rollout has been picking up steam. Still a lot of people aren't eligible though and some eligible people are still having struggles getting that appointment. What exactly does this new may. I go mean. States have been handling vaccine distribution on their own and and they have very different rates at this point in new mexico and alaska for example more than twenty five percent of the population has at least one dose but the rate is much lower in states like georgia texas n. In washington dc. The federal government is now trying to step up efforts to boost those rates biden. Said they will double the number of pharmacy's offering the vaccine to more than twenty thousand. That's about one third of the pharmacies. In the nation they want to increase the number of people who can give vaccines that means expanding. the pool. include people like dentists midwives in Even there in areas and there will be a new website supported by the federal government that will help people find appointments and that has been a real challenge especially for people without internet or computer access but by did clarify that. That may i go doesn't mean everyone will get a vaccine by then they should at least be able to get in line and that would set the stage for the symbolic july fourth goal that the president talked about. He said he wants the nation kind of normal place by then things are trending up. We are still in a pandemic though. What would it take to get us to that. July fourth goal americans need to get vaccinated and then they ran and he urged people to help their friends and families do the same but he also warned that americans will still need to continue following health guidelines like worrying mask and other things You know to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. You know this is a much more aggressive time line than they had been given before was maybe a return to normal by christmas A normal will mean different. Things biden said he hopes americans will be able to hold small gatherings by the fourth of july. Here's more from him on that. Redo this together by july the fourth. There's a good chance you your families and friends will be able to get together in your backyard or in your neighborhood and have a cookout in a barbecue and celebrate independence day and i should. This wasn't just a big speech. This was also the day that the president signed a major spending plan one point nine trillion dollars of relief into law. This is a big moment for biden and the speech reflected on the challenges of the last year but it also served as a marker that the pandemic hopefully turning around passing that a relief bill had been his number one priority and next week looks like the president will be on the road. Selling this plan. We will be talking about that next week. And our white house correspondent isha roscoe isha. Thanks thank you a new york. Governor andrew. cuomo is staring down. Something hard to imagine this time last year. Possible impeachment. six women have now accused cuomo of sexual misconduct and yesterday. The new york state assembly's leading democrat authorized the start of an investigation that opens the door to impeachment joining us now. Wnyc's bridge bergen bridge. Good morning good morning. Scott new allegations keep emerging are the political and legal repercussions for the governor. Now so governor. Cuomo has really managed to wield power in albany without a strong check by the state legislature for a long time. No more they are really pushing back. The albany police department has received a complaint related to that latest allegation against the governor and this could trigger a criminal investigation. The the complaint concerns the most recent of the six allegations reported by the albany times union. A young staffer from the governor's team was summoned to his residence in albany. She alleges that when she was in a room with him he reached under her blouse and groped her in the governor's earlier statements where he apologized. Iffy offended the other women who had come forward. He's really made a point of saying he never physically touched anyone. Is it fair to say that the most recent album the possibility of his ouster more real due to just the number of allegations out there and and how serious this latest one was. It really does feel like the start of a reckoning and that became clear after a long intense meeting yesterday among the state assembly democratic conference who are in the majority their planned to begin investigating. The allegations includes the power to subpoena testimony under oath now. Some lawmakers described this as the best next step a form of due process so they could understand if there was evidence against him but for others. This was really a reluctant compromise earlier in the day. More than fifty lawmakers in both state houses had called for the governor's resignation and they really want this investigation to lead to an impeachment proceeding and scott. I should note that only one other governor in new york state history has ever been impeached and that was back in nineteen thirteen if cuomo does leave office one way or the other becomes governor next in succession. Is lieutenant governor kathy hotel and this this oh serious for cuomo even the only investigation right. The attorney general is already looking into this. It should not. She's made clear that no matter. What other investigations ensue. And regardless of whether cuomo remains in office her team will conduct a full and thorough investigation just yesterday. They set up a new website. Ag independent investigation dot com so if any other individuals want to come forward. They know exactly how to do it. You know this time. Last year andrew cuomo was a man who said exactly what he wanted on the stage. He wanted what has his response. Been all of the swirls around him and gets more serious. We actually haven't heard. The governor speak publicly since tuesday which was before the sixth woman came forward and the new investigation was authorized. His last statement was released on wednesday night. There he said again. Nothing like this is ever happened. Wnyc's bridge bergen. Thank you so much. thank you tomorrow. Marks a year since police in louisville kentucky shot and killed brianna. Taylor taylor was a twenty six year old emergency room. Technician officers were serving. What's called a no knock search warrant. When they burst into her apartment in the middle of the night. Taylor's boyfriend thought they were intruders so he drew a gun and fired a single shot. The police fired thirty two bullets. In response fatally striking taylor five times. Her death inspired months of protests and calls for justice just clark of member station w. f. p. l. joins us now to talk about how people move. Oh will mark the one year anniversary a lot of one year anniversary this year. A lot of them grim. This is another one. how are people commemorating this well. On saturday organizers have planned the first major action since the fall. we've got national groups coming to town like the new york based until freedom and then a lot of local civil rights groups organizing black lives matter and people are going to gather in the small park. That's become known as injustice square. It's really been the center of protests here and they will continue calls for justice for taylor which many feel has still not been delivered. You've been speaking to people. What have they saying about how. They're impacted by this death. A year out. It's it's it's grown to global implications. Yeah so i'm an education reporter. And i was most curious how taylor's death affected black high school girls and young women especially since i've seen so many at the protests and one of the students i talked to was booed yellow cheese eighteen and she's a senior in high school in new was already pretty nervous around police before brianna taylor was killed. Her dad had the talk with her. That many young black kids get about you know what to do when you're pulled over by police taylor's death made a boo even more afraid. She was sir blee in her bed and she got up to see who was there. It just makes me feel like no matter what i do like if i'm in the comfort of my own house i'm just minding my business like i'm not saved from being killed. Cinnabun is one of many young black women who are really struggling with a heightened sense of anxiety at the same time. She's eighteen years old and she has this wonderful youthful idealism. Eighteen year olds have and she's really motivated to create change court proceedings beginning in some of the other high profile killings from the past year have protesters louisville gotten any of the accountability that they've demanded well when it comes to criminal charges. That answer is no Protesters are still pretty upset with kentucky attorney. General's office daniel cameras decision to charge. Just one officer brett hankison and those were for bullets. Were shot into a neighbor's apartment. And not directly related to brianna taylor stuff so there are still calls for more officers to face more charges. Three officers have been fired. But they're all appealing those decisions and the police. Union here is very powerful so we have yet to see how that will shake out. And then there's a lot of systemic changes that protesters are demanding and that includes shifting funding from the police department of social services. And when it comes to those changes there has been some movement. But it's not the transformational change that i think protesters are really seeking so we'll see how protests continue as the weather warms up just clark with member station w. f. l. louisville. Thanks so much. thank you And that's a first for friday march twelfth. I'm scott detro- and i'm rachel martin up. I is produced by milton. vodka our editors mohammed elbert. Dc and simone pop real. Our music is composed by nick to pray and louis weeks. Our executive producer is kenya young. And today we are saying goodbye to one of our most. Excellent producers emetel cough. You are just the best of the best and we're gonna miss you much. Don't forget up. First airs on saturday to lulu garcia navarro. Scott simon have the news. It'll be here in this feed or wherever you get your podcast We are inching closer and closer to post pandemic life but writer an helen. Peterson wonders. 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Pres. Biden: All adults to be eligible for COVID vaccine by May 1

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

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Pres. Biden: All adults to be eligible for COVID vaccine by May 1

"Well tonight in his first prime time address to the nation. President joe biden announced that everyone in this country age eighteen and above will be able to receive the coronavirus vaccine by. May i may i. That's it you will have your appointment by. May i if not already have the vaccine in your arm. President biden said this goal is to allow people to be able to. His goal is to allow people to be able to gather in small groups on july fourth to celebrate our independence and to celebrate our independence from the krona virus. Today was the triumphant high point of the biden presidency. So far with house speaker. Nancy pelosi delivering the biden cove. Relief bill to the white house for the president's signature one day earlier than expected signing the bill into law today means relief. Checks of fourteen hundred dollars could be flowing into people's accounts as early as this weekend. People can expect to start seeing direct posits. A hit their bank accounts as early as this weekend. Prison biden stepped up to the microphone in the east room of the white house. Tonight to tell americans what they will be getting from the covid relief bill and when they will be getting their vaccinations but he began with what we have lost. Told you before. I carry a card in my pocket but the number of americans who've died from cova to date. It's on the back of my schedule as of now. Total deaths in america. Five hundred twenty seven thousand seven hundred twenty six. that's more deaths than war. One war to the vietnam war and nine eleven combined prison button described the progress. The biden harris administration has made on. Vaccinations took office fifty days ago. Only eight percent of americans after months only eight percent of those over the age of sixty five gotten their first vaccination today at number sixty five percent just fourteen percent of americans over the age of seventy five fifty fifty days ago had gotten their first shot today. That number as well over seventy percent. I said i intended to get one hundred million shots and people's arms and my first hundred days in office tonight. I can say we're not going to meet that goal. We're going to beat that goal because they've actually track to reach this goal of one hundred million shots arms on my sixtieth day in office. No other country in the world has done this tonight. President biden made a new promise on vaccinations tonight. I'm announcing valid direct allstate's tribes and territories to make all adults people eighteen and over eligible to be vaccinated. No later than may one. Let me say that again. all adult will be eligible. Get a vaccine no later than may one. The president described the mobilization that he is organizing to get that vaccine into people's arch remobilising thousand of vaccinators to put the vaccine in one's arm calling active duty military. Fema retired doctors and nurses administrators and in those to administer the shots. And we've been creating more places to get the shots. We've made it possible for you to get a vaccine nearly one any of ten thousand pharmacies across the country. Just like you get your flu. Shot roy also working with governors and mayors in red states and blue states to set up and support nearly six hundred frederick supportive vaccination centers that administers hundreds of thousands of shots per day. You can drive up to a stadium or a large parking lot. Get your shot. Never leave your car and drive home in less than an hour. We've been sending vaccines to hundreds of community health centers all across america located in underserved areas. And we've been deploying we will deploy more mobile vehicles some pop up clinic to meet you where you live so those who are least able to get the vaccine are able to get it. Prison biden gave a specific date to look forward to one we are all fully vaccinated and ready to gather in small celebrations once again if we do all this if we do our part redo this together by july the fourth a good chance. You your family's in. France will be able to get together in your backyard or in your neighborhood and have a cookout at a barbecue and celebrate independence day. That doesn't mean large vanch with lots of people together but it does me. Small groups will be able to get together after this long hard year. That will make this independence day. Something truly special where we not only mark. Our independence is a nation when we begin to mark independence from this virus. But to get there. We can't let our guard down. This fight is far from order. From over as i told the woman in pennsylvania. I'll tell you the truth on july fourth with your loved ones. Is the goal joining us. Now john holliman. Msnbc national affairs analyst and host of the hell and high water podcast from the recount and also general primary former communications director for the obama. White house are co hosts of showtime's the circus and john It it's a moment like never seen before. This was a victorious moment in this presidency fifty days in giant legislative achievement. The president addresses the nation. But he begins with the sadness of what we've lost. He delivers optimism for where we can get to but cautions us about the fear we have to maintain of hold our own personal health In in a safe space a space as we move forward through this corona virus plague It was an amazing range of notes. That that he was delivering their All in this continued effort to keep his presidency on. Course keep us on course in dealing with this virus. Yeah that's right lawrence. I think You know i i. People underestimate joe biden at their peril. I think and i think that that is part of what this first fifty days of the administration has shown just as his campaign showed the same thing he comes. He has extraordinary He's not a politician. Who's he's a five tool player. He doesn't have all the skills but the skills he has and the temperament he has or just about perfect built for this moment and his mastery of the legislative process his personal experience everything that people understand about his acquaintance. His deep sad acquaintance with profound grief the empathy that's borne out in him. That's brought out in him and the fact that i think he understood something that donald trump never understood. Which was that. The country wants to be called to sacrifice. Wants this this notion of striking that tone again even now as it seems like victory is maybe incite with the crowbar by saying again that i want to have the country on a war footing. It was the one time in all of twenty twenty. The donald trump was did well on kobe for about three days when he said he wanted to be a wartime president. And i think biden understands that you cannot give up this fight too soon. That victory has to be total and that tempered measured cautious optimism and realism as he kept coming back again tonight telling people the truth even if the truth is not happy talk that that is the path and the path that will keep him where he is right now which is an extraordinary position of political strength. Jennifer you've been in the white house Approaching big days like this it turns out the bill signing was a day sooner than they expected. And these bill signings as as you know as you participated in are highly choreographed planned and yet this one was rushed by twenty four hours. So that that money could move quicker into people's direct deposit accounts and then you've got this speech to prepare for tonight and the notes to decide to hit in this speech tonight. What is it like for the for the west wing going into this speech tonight. Because they were they were they. Were planning on having a big finding ceremony tomorrow with leaders from the hill and everyone coming down and that that's when you put a lot of time and effort and two and then you have to decide. The decision was we can't have him give a speech about a bill. That he has received has not find he gotta get relief going the soon as the as quickly as possible maybe decision to do that and You have you really have to nail this each. And what i found but i love to look for in these presidential dresses is what is the story of america that the president is trying to tell us right. That is something not speechwriters. Have you forefront of their mind. There's there's there's the sort of deliverables you have to tick through. But if the what's the bigger story. And i think by telling you know. He went through things at the administration had done done but he said america is leading this right. We have not. We're we're vaccinating more people than anywhere in the world. We're no longer leading in-depth relieving than vaccinations and only america can do this. And we did this together It's very far very far cry from donald trump's i alone in this. He's making he's restoring america's pride patriotism and having this victory you know not fight one yet. But they're on the path a defeating the virus america's victory and trying to drain politics out of this. I see him so many ways in usually relatively subtle try and take down the when it comes to partisanship and i think this is something interpreters of defeating the virus. He wants america thing they did. We did it. We did it together. It's not something. That joe biden. John one of the notes in the speech That i like the best and this is a biden note. This is a note that he is now. I think among our politicians the best at delivering is the note of humility and he. He's rattling off statistics about how great his administration has done with vaccines and vaccinations and much better. It was than the first vaccinations run by the trump administration and yet he says at the same time if we make mistakes in delivering the cove relief. Bill if there are aspects of this that don't work i will tell you He's anticipating the possibility that what he's trying to do won't work perfectly that he can make mistakes that at various stages of this There are things that won't work and he'll admit that and he's telling you up front Humbly that. This might not be perfect. Everything that i'm describing to you. yeah lawrence. That's a guy who's been around the block a few times right of someone who has seen their has their share a battle scars. Someone who lived through the eight years in the obama administration where things like the obamacare. The affordable care act a website. The obamacare website was such a problem. You know he's under he's learned. I think joe biden over these many years in the senate and the white house. He's learned to under promise and over deliver and he's also learned to set those expectations. In the way that you're talking about it and finally the other thing that jennifer just said a second which i think is so true. Is this notion of of trying to part and parcel of leaching the politics out of things turning the temperature down is to focus on his competence and to try to focus on very readily achievable metrics and markers things that the administration. If feels very competent they will be able to deliver so that step by step he grows. The countries are the country's confident that grosses political leverage. and it also without ever mentioning. Donald trump strikes the most vivid possible contrast with the most incompetent administration in history jennifer. I'm going to read you some polling numbers that i have to read them out loud to believe them. Because i've never seen anything like this seventy five percent. Cbs poll seventy five percent approve of the covert relief. Package a seventy five percent jennifer. This is a gigantic plex bill. It's literally the biggest bill. Democrats have ever passed. Any democratic president has ever signed of the public in arriving at that seventy five percent approval number has to be basically extending some amount of trust to joe biden. because they haven't read all six hundred pages of that bill right they don't they don't know the details of what they know that they were told repeatedly from economist administration officials across the board. The biggest mistake we can make is to go to small and so the public but their faith and joe biden met we too big. And that's what they did and there the forty nine and they know that there's going to be actual checks in the mail soon. That's going to help release. The pressure is at their family. So you know that is the good news. But i you know i lived through the administration where we pass a stimulus bill You know the recovery act early on february of two thousand nine but the problem. The political problem that developed was people didn't see the economy did not improve dramatically. It was like a constant battle of us telling the public if we had not passed that recovery. Bill things would be worse than they are. That is not a message and sell and so i think what you know going. Forward with the administration's clear to do is show. The economy is getting better and the recovery act is is the you know the recovery. The rescue plan is the reason why. Jeffrey jennifer mary john holliman. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Starting off and thank you very much for observing the msnbc rule of no profanity which you do not observe on your show. Time show It's john heilemann. Were really talking about here. the must say circus on showtime. Thank you very much for joining us. Really appreciate and when we come back andy slammed president biden senior adviser on the virus response will join us later in the hour but first what do you think should be next on the agenda for the biden harris administration. The answer is one word and it's something. Donald trump did two hundred thirty one times. That's next now. The president joe biden has his first big legislative win. The west wing and the democrats are asking as they always do. What's next senator sheldon whitehouse has a one word answer. Judges courtrooms ought to be open places where you know who is present not a place where powerful players can come masked behind front groups hiding both their own identity and their interconnections. The supreme court should not be a place that has a special interest controlled fast lane bringing certain special interest chosen cases before the court at high speed without the trappings of a real case or controversy. The court itself should not tolerate this. But if it won't respond we must mitch. Mcconnell worked in nonstop coordination with the trump white house counsel to a point. Two hundred thirty one federal judges at levels including three united states supreme court justices. Many of those judges were unqualified. And all were the result of a right wing screening process funded by dark money contributed by people in corporations who want the courts to serve them. Those judges now have lifetime appointments. President biden in the senate democrats have a long way to go to catch up and will take these same kind of relentless use of the confirmation process to get biden judges into courtrooms joining us now is democratic. Senator sheldon whitehouse of rhode island. He's a member of the senate judiciary committee and chairman of the subcommittee on federal courts over site agency action and federal rights. Senator white house. Thank you very very much for joining us tonight. Of the story of the trump judges which now joe biden has four years to to try to counter with his own appointees. The story of trump judges as you tell it is not just who they are and how unqualified some of them are. It's how they got there and who put them there precisely. It's a question of who's behind this whole operation and one of the things you see right now is that the same donors the same entities same operatives same machinery that in the trump administration was driving the court capture. Operation has now swivelled and turned. Its guns the exact same gun. Say money same people same organizations to voter suppression and if we hope to show the american people what this dark money operation is and try to dig at. Who's behind it then. We're doing a real disservice to the american people and if we can show them. I think that'll give us a whole new lease on life in terms of how the public With these three judges went through to get onto the court and what it means. They were ushered onto the court by secret special entrance. And now the judges who were put on the court at all levels from the supreme court to the federal district's by those special interests both special interests will be in the fact in the courtroom invoke suppression cases that they will be hearing over the next few years having having been put into these positions by the people who are fighting those voter suppression cases with litigants in the courtroom with bogus. Names like the elections project which is run right now by the same person who led the project. Put these judges on the bench. So they'll be in the courtroom when these voter suppression cases are litigated. To remind the judges. Yes i am the one who got you there now. It's a time when you were watching especially on the judiciary committee where the confirmations were just you know speeding through the committee during the trump years of federal judges. When you were watching that and out on the senate floor watching mitch mcconnell just a bring those judges up. Bring those judges up constantly mitch. Mcconnell of course was unburdened by any concern about trying to legislate so he was happy to just do confirmations all day. Were you all sitting there thinking. Wait till we get our chance. Wait till we get our chance. Are you going to be trying to run as high-speed confirmation process as mitch mcconnell was running. Gosh i hope so but the thing that was front of mind for me through about is why. Don't we tell the story better. I don't we tell the story better is are not things that are happening. These are things that are being done and the force behind all the rule breaking all the norm breaking all the apocrypha and position reversals. All of the Just the whole thing just smells and people behave that way. There's not a reason and the reason is that machine was behind all of this. It gives money to this operation. That funds mitch mcconnell's independent so called a political operation. That has now turned in spends on voter suppression and it was just so frustrating. Me when people would treat these as events that just happened was somehow just a thing that occurred and wouldn't look at what braving force was. There was making this happen. There's an octopus hind all these technical tips and we gotta start paying attention to it. I hope do my subcommittee. We can pay a lot of attention to it. It certainly drives them crazy when you go after the. How much does h. r. one. If passed solve these problems enormously enormously would do two things first of all. It makes dark money a thing of the past contributions over ten thousand dollars and then second. It takes the money's on judicial confirmations and treats them as they are which is a political advertising expense that has to be disclosed also it would make an enormous difference as soon as the american public. Assistance seized who the players are the stage. They get the plot right away. And that's why these nasty big money players love to hide behind masks and try to fool the american public and deny them. The knowledge of who's on the political stage in this case who's in the courtroom senator sheldon whitehouse. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. And i always appreciate having you here because i know you're one of the people in the senate who's always doing the thinking about the issue but isn't on the front page today that we do have to be thinking about. Thank you very much. Senator really appreciate berle up tonight. Joe biden told us we can gather together again in small groups in the backyard on the fourth of july andy slab. At the president's buyer's response will give us more details on how we can expect our lives to change once we have all been vaccinated in may. That's next. I will not relent until we beat this fires but i need you the american people i need you. I need every american to do their part. That's not hyperbole. I need you need you to get vaccinated when it's your turn. When you can find an opportunity and to help your family your friends your neighbors get vaccinated as well. Because here's the point if we do all this if we do our part we do this together by july the fourth. There's a good chance you your family and friends will be able to get together in your backyard or in your neighborhood and have a cookout or barbecue and celebrate independence day joining us now. Is andi slavik white house senior adviser for covid response. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Mr slavic appreciated You know when. When ron claimed did his first television appearance as white house chief of staff it was. It was here and you had put out at that point. A an outline what. I'd call an outline of what the plan was what the biden plan for vaccination and covid response was and and i read through it and i asked him. Where's the phone number. Where where's the website. Where's the thing in here. That tells me where. I can go to get the vaccine and that was of course very early in the process. It seems like you are now getting close to a national kind of landing point for exactly that sort of information. The president talked about that tonight in his speech without much. Detail that we're gonna be able to go to a particular website that would be centralized that will tell us all anywhere in the country. Is that what. He was alluding to in his speech. Tonight well the first obligation we had we got here was really to increase the supply of vaccines to increase the number vaccinators in places for people to get vaccinated because a website doesn't do any good in a shortage So we we really have had to fix that and we're still shortage And we will be For the next few weeks. But americans also have to particularly as we get past a group of people who are so eager to find a vaccine that they'll they'll do anything for it to the people that are a little bit more on the fence we're gonna have to make it easier and reduce the friction in the process and make it easier for people to find vaccines. So yes. The president announced tonight Addition to all the state websites people will be able to go online to a federal site and find places near them that have vaccines available. And so what when you look at that challenge of trying to deliver the interface. Because right now what. I'm hearing from people who are eligible. Who are of the right age. Your occupation is that getting the appointment itself is the biggest challenge even though they qualify with websites that are non responsive or they're just no appointments available How do you conquer that well. The biggest problem is just the shortage. it's not a very good feeling to get on the website whether it works or doesn't work well hope pro vaccine and all the appointments are taken and that's a function of just not having vaccines for the amount of number of people in the country. But that's gonna change lawrence that's going to change as we continue to increase the production of vaccines from our now. Three manufacturers john johnson johnson pfizer moderna. And as a change is people will will get less frustrated but even with perfect website today. people are going to be frustrated. Because it's still difficult for many americans to get vaccines. We've made a lot of progress. What in four dolts has been vaccinated. Had the first vaccine shot which is great Over seventy percent of people over seventy five which is also great. It's a great amount of progress. But we've had a lot more to do. What is the thing that you go into work every day this week saying we really need to fix this. We really need to fix this. I think the thing that i worry about the most is the equitable distribution of vaccines. And making sure that we can get vaccines to the people who are hardest hit or in the hardest hit communities. You set up a location like we did in oakland And and you set up a big stadium. Were lots of scenes and what happens is people from san francisco. Come over and take all appointments and take all the vaccines It happens routinely that people who have access to technology people who have access to means a little bit more privilege are the ones who are swooping. In and taking the lion share the vaccines and racial minorities. Ethnic minorities people live in rural locations. We've got to work extra hard to get those folks vaccines. So i feel really good about the fact that we've increased the demand feel great that the president was able to come out here tonight and give a vision for what the next period of time could look like if we all pull together that was based on his leadership in his guidance and his hard work Yet community by community. We have to make sure that the people who need these vaccines the most the people who are working in central central accusations Very crowded environments. That they're getting the chance to get the vaccine. Joe biden gave us his view of the fourth of july. This summer i give us more detail on. What what you're telling us we should be able to do on the fourth of july. I think the assumption on what the president was saying is we will all be vaccinated and so when we gather in the backyard. In that small group everyone will be vaccinated. Is that one of the principles of the gathering on the fourth of july for you is that everyone is vaccinated. Well i think everyone is going to have a chance to be vaccinated by the fourth of but the cdc said even today that a grandparent whose vaccinated can go visit and yes even a grandchild who hasn't been vaccinated without a mask so long as as their their low risk which is which in most cases is going to be the case so we were already able to take steps. And i think you know the president is not one to come out and be overly optimistic. He's wanna be very straight with the public. And i think what he said tonight was if we keep doing the things that we're doing if we stick together if we don't abandoned the kind of safe practices that have got us here if we're able to hold it together for a couple more months the by the time we get to the summer by the time we get to independence day. We're going to be in a situation. Where many of the things that our lives on all the many of the things that we cherish so much namely spending time with one another. We're going to have that. Back andy slab. Thank you for the important work you're doing saving lives in this country. Really appreciate it and thank you for joining us tonight. Bake yours coming up. We have breaking news from albany tonight where the democratic speaker of the assembly as authorized and impeachment investigation of new york andrew. Cuomo we'll be joined by a member of the assembly who was in the meeting with the speaker when the democratic speaker decided to launch the impeachment investigation of the democratic governor. That's next dramatic development today in the investigation of new york governor andrew cuomo after a closed-door meeting of democrats only in the state assembly led by the democratic speaker. Carl hefty the speaker issued a statement authorizing the judiciary committee to begin an impeachment. Investigation of governor andrew cuomo. The speaker said the committee will have the authority to interview. Witnesses subpoenaed documents and evaluate evidence as is allowed by. New york's by the new york state constitution last night. The albany times union published an account about another unnamed woman who currently works for governor cuomo who reportedly told staffers about inappropriate conduct with her in the workplace that brings the total to six named and unnamed women who have accused the governor last night in response to the latest accusation. The governor issued a written statement sank. I have never done anything like this today. The democratic mayor of new york city said it is disgusting to me and he can no longer serve as governor. It's as simple as that. That was mayor. Bill de blasio new york state government is completely controlled by democrats who have been strong supporters of their democratic governor but forty three democrats in the state assembly on twenty two democrats in the state senate have already called on the governor to resign including the senate majority leader if the impeachment investigation launched today leads to the impeachment of the governor by the assembly. Then rick lieutenant governor kathy hoke will will immediately become acting governor while andrew cuomo is awaiting trial in the state. Senate if the senate convicts andrew cuomo then kathy focal would continue to serve as governor and serve out the term as governor. She could then run for governor in the next election. In twenty twenty two joining us now is democratic new york state assemblywoman latrice walker a brooklyn. She serves on the judiciary committee. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it so the do you. The speaker assigned the judiciary committee today. This investigation What was that meeting like. And we're all democrats in the meeting in agreement with this step. Well the democratic party in the new york state assembly just like any other body is not monolithic however we support speaker pasties decision to have trauma informed process. It's and as a member of the new york state assembly judiciary committee at took an old to uphold the stay in the country's constitution. Nb the embodiment of due process Is undiminished to that. Charge is fundamental in essential as air food or water guarantees fairness injustice and it provides the process. So we're not playing this out in political theater or the court of public opinion to do so to do otherwise of or to avert. This process sets a dangerous precedent and we must ensure that we have a sensitive balancing test where we are going to be gathering facts looking at all of the circumstances to determine whether or not those facts warrant a further impeachment proceeding. The impeachment proceedings are similar to what we have seen in now the to trump impeachments in washington with one. Very very big difference. And that is if you in the assembly impeached. The governor and send him to trial in the senate. Lieutenant governor. kathy. Hokuto immediately takes over as acting governor while the while andrew cuomo is awaiting trial in the senate and while he's on trial in the senate how will that. Dynamic of affect the assembly's deliberations. Well we have a budget to get back to and kathy as the first female attendant governor of the state of new york will be the governor of the state and we will ensure that a government will continue to function to ensure that we have a budget that addresses in a remain continues to make new york state a great place to live and raise a family. We have a number of issues to look at which includes food insecurities access to quality education. Small business stabilisation in our fundamental rights to housing and so we look forward to getting back to work. So you sound tonight like you're ready to go to work with cathy. Hotel as acting governor or as governor if she if if andrew cuomo were to for example. Well we've enjoyed a a a great working relationship as colleagues with her in the position of lieutenant governor. She has ushered us through the centennial of women. Having the right to vote and we would be looking forward to a proud moment in terms of having her as our next first female governor one more quick question about procedure. Will all of your investigation be public. When you're questioning a witnesses. Will that be public. Well it's important for us to have trauma informed process and we will be careful to not have a the agreed have to come before the new york state attorney general her investigation as well as to be put in a public forum for those stories to have to be told in a Twice and so it will be a sensitive a balancing test that we will address. And we look forward to securing. And assuring the privacy of all involved suddenly women latrice walker. Thank you very much for joining us on this important night for your duties as a member of the judiciary committee really appreciate. Thank you for having me. At the end of this triumphant day for a new president fighting the economic and health effects of the pandemic we are all also at the end of our first year of living or and trying to survive the pandemic last tonight. We'll go to one of our favourite big thinkers who helps us put nights like this perspective on gear. Dara will join us next and we'll get tonight's last work but here's the deal guys you know. One of the things that i think is really really important. Is that Everybody's going to tell you how much they value education. I got an expression. I don't tell me what you value. Show me your budget. And i will tell you what you value those presidential candidate. Joe biden in may twenty nineteen in houston and now present biden has shown us is covert relief budget and shown us what he values. Eric times is now calling president. Baden crusader for the poor quote. Aides say he has embraced his new role. Mr biden has done so in part by following progressives in his party to the left and accepting the encouragement of his inner circle to use democratic power to make sweeping rather than incremental change. He has also been moved by the inequities in pain and suffering that the pandemic has inflicted on the poorest americans. Aides say joining us now is a non. Your dot us. Msnbc political analyst and publisher of the ink newsletter on. I've thought of you because it's on these nights when there are so many big things of flowing through our news cycle that that seem related of but i can't quite put them together. That's what i need the big thinker What are your reflections. As we come to this the end of this night where we have this big legislative victory by joe biden this promise of a fully vaccinated country and this delivery this delivery by the signing of that bill today of a massive surge of economic aid in real money to people who need it. Hope in history really do rhyme. Sometimes as that poem says today's though so the one year anniversary as you know of the declaration of the pandemic launched this year for all of us and fitting leads the eve of the eighth anniversary of. Fdr's first fireside chat. Which i thought was kind of interesting and this year. That joe biden spoke about tonight was one story but many right it was a story obviously of illness and death and pain but also a story of protests extraordinary protest of bravery of mutual aid of invention of resilience it was a year marked by this pandemic but also by a lot of intersecting crises crises it intersected with health economic racial democratic crisis remember when we thought we might not still have the rule of law as texas and other places illustrate climates to hold very much with us and coming out of this year. What i have been thinking about is if there is a gift of this cursed year a it is the end to any illusion that we had been living right And the prompting. To not just rebuild as we've heard this president about which is important but also to rethink to rethink and so when i was processing the making of this sausage of legislation that was signed today at. I probably like a lot of people watching this. I was dismayed by a lot of things. I was hearing and reading right. Minimum wage was in and then it was out benefits were bigger than they were smaller. And it seemed like this thing that prime minister joe manchin was was prevailing And as i dug into the details of the final package Actually began to revise my own sense of and i think a lot of people have and started to realize that this is a. It's not perfect. It's not everything. A lot of. Its not permanent which we need to deal with. But a lot of this has quietly. Revolutionary starting with the child benefit that creates the rudiments of basic income for families in this country Direct cash families changes in the tax code. That shock of all shocks after forty years of reverse actually most benefit the poor. And what a lot of these things talking about time things together. What they seem to have in common to me is that they reflect noxious new policies but new thinking rethinking in particular. The notion that has been gaining ground of giving people money directly. It's been advocated by lots of people this policy. This program reflects it and the idea of centering. The poor not just the middle class. Joe biden talks a lot about the middleclass democrats often. Don't talk about the poor. Because they're scared of losing the white working class voters who resent the poor this bill centers. The poor this bill and the this administration is economic policy has actually shown a little bit of a cold shoulder to some of the wall. Streeters who've shaped these kinds of responses in the past this is not a larry summers robert rubin administration which makes it decisively different from the obama and clinton years and finally ignoring the deficit worrywarts. This is not a program that reflects their influence. So what i'm seeing. It's early days. But what i'm seeing is the the hulking ship of american conventional wisdom on these matters turning beginning to turn and i would say as reflected in the tone of the president tonight someone who i have always I with at all. But i see a president who's singular capacity is his capacity to be influenced a desire to be pushed a desire to meet this moment potentially and i see him in a country potentially waking up to new truths. I also think you're seeing someone who went from representing one st delaware to now fifty and was in training for that for eight years as as vice president and so he is a different person than the person who served as senator. Your dot us. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Always appreciate it thank you. Thank you so much battery having me to. That is heights last word.

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Episode 284: New York Democratic Party Chair Jay Jacobs On What's Next For Governor Cuomo

Max & Murphy on Politics

24:39 min | Last month

Episode 284: New York Democratic Party Chair Jay Jacobs On What's Next For Governor Cuomo

"Kumo in crisis. I'm jared murphy from city limits dot org and this has been match got the visit. We welcome back to maximum murphy. J jacobs who is the chair of the new york state democratic party also the chair of the nassau county democratic party. Jay this is max. From gotham visit with jared murphy of city limits. Thanks so much for coming back on the show. Well thanks for having me so You run the state democratic party You're close ally and have a say a friendship and a good working relationship with governor cuomo just for the baseline for our conversation today. The other public appearances that you're making right now. Is governor cuomo faces you know. Perhaps the the biggest scandal of his of his tenure. When when you're when you're speaking now tell us sort of who. You're speaking four and where the governor governors voice fits in in terms of your The stances that you're taking publicly well. My job is to promote and protect the democratic party. And that is that represents a lot of candidates. And when i took this job as stay here and this is my second go around you know. I was state chair from two thousand nine to two thousand twelve hundred david. Paterson governor david paterson. And then the first year and a half of andrew cuomo and i was asked to consider coming back in two thousand nineteen and i did it under the Understanding that we would run the democratic party the benefit of the democratic party of course be allied with the governor which we are aligned with the governor in in most circumstances but You know i am speaking for myself. I'm speaking on behalf of The county chairs who've reached out to me to Give our view of what we should do in this really very difficult circumstance. So i'm not speaking on behalf of the governor. I'm not here to defend the governor's actions or the allegations against the governor in any detail or any way. I think these serious and disturbing allegations are very upsetting and You know we have to see to it that We deal with them in an appropriate fashion. And that's what i've been speaking about right right and when you say disturbing upsetting allegations There's three different women who have come forward with varying allegations. Do you operate Yourself in his leader of the democratic party from a position of believing them Initially yes i mean. I started off with an allegation that Like the ones that were hearing. I generally Start off believing what people say. But i also understand that you know you have to have an appropriate investigation and take a look at the context and you know Both perspectives of what happened. That's only the only fair thing to do but most certainly take them seriously on. I believe these ladies you know In what they said and tell folks Haven't been following the blow by blow like like i have like jared has What you what. Your stance is in terms of what should unfold here. Well as i've said in the process everybody agrees these very serious allegations and they need a full independent investigation. We called for that early on We we're not going to sweep this under the rug and and if there's been real And and i I'll call it just malfeasance in office. Then the governor's going to have to be held accountable for it but it it requires the independent investigation. Go forward. so we've got the attorney general who everybody respects. Everybody agrees is going to Steered this process appropriately it won't take an unreasonably long period of time to get it done. She has subpoena power and I i don't think there's a necessity for a fast rush ignoring the process. I just believe that as a matter of precedent a matter of the way things ought to be done in by the way this is consistent the way the way i felt in other circumstances with members of both parties not just the democratic party that you given these serious allegations. Do you think there should be any interim steps in place you know we've seen Situations where elected officials have Have kind of immediately been been said they can't hire interns or you know that there should be certain you know monitoring in place of the governor's interactions with people Any any interim steps she thinks should be taken while this investigation unfolds muser Serious serious allegations do do you think there should be anything in place To monitor how. The governor interacts with people. I think If if we hear the allegations They are not good and they indicate a certain behavior that you know we we you know would all find upsetting but i don't think that you're in a situation where there's a fear that moving forward over the next month or two. The people are at risk if they work in the executive branch of government You've got a government that has quite a number of Very strong and capable female Leaders in it and not the least of which is his secretary to the governor Which is akin to a chief of staff listened to rosa and and her team. And so i i feel very comfortable. That people will be safe working there. In the interim i think more important At the moment we've got to focus on getting the business of the state done we've got a budget needs to be completed within the next four weeks we've got a pandemic that has to be tackled vaccine staffed get into people's arms and organized that way and so. There's a lot that has to be done and the governor. I believe can do that. And so while the investigation goes forward. No one is at risk. No i don't think anybody believes that anybody else's at riskier That you know we we just have to carry on and then we have to make the appropriate decision. Do the right thing when that report is issued if we're to believe The women who have spoken up I don't know that i don't. I'm not sure that everybody who agree with you that nobody is at risk of other such behavior right. I mean that that would that would be a very open question. Wouldn't it no. I don't think so. No because this is not the the governor having been called On it. I mean i think people probably saw what he had to say about it today. and he was very apologetic about it. I i would be stunned to think that under that framework and under that circumstance but now in the next two months something like this or anything like this is going to happen again. that would be. That's where i want to go. Next is what the governor had to say today in his in his comments he he talked about Learning an important lesson which is more or less a direct quote And you know that he now understands that some of the ways that he's talked to people have made them feel uncomfortable. listening to that It struck me struck many others as pretty hard to reconcile with the fact that this is a governor who's been out in front free years working on legislation around sexual assault sexual harassment There are countless numbers of press conferences and speeches where he's talked about these issues. I'm i'm confused. And i'd like your reaction do you. Do you believe what he was saying. Or is it that he is seemingly You know trying to make up. For the fact that he was he was caught talking inappropriately with subordinates. Because for the governor not to have known that some of the that conversation. That's alleged that he's not denying. was inappropriate. I'm not quite sure how to reconcile their given the very public understanding that he's shown in these issues. Well you know that would then lead you to have to conclude that anybody that apologizes or seize. Their actions in a different light would necessarily be disingenuous. I remember you know not too long ago. People were saying that. Joe biden was very physical in touchy with people and they were making all sorts of insinuation which i thought were completely ridiculous by the way my but joe biden got up said what he had to say. apologizing for making anybody feeling uncomfortable etc and we move on. I think in this case unfortunately because of the governors tenure and maybe his working style Darren numbers of people who you know. Don't like them all that much and they're not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but if you like the person may be are willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm not here to Prejudged the issue at to say to you. That i agree or disagree with your. You know your your statement. Which i think has some validity about you know his his knowledge awareness of what should have been right and should have been wrong. I think the benefit of an investigation is that in an investigation. The investigators will be able to question andrew cuomo about those conversations. He will give his perspective on those conversations and what they were about from where he he stood as will The the Individuals who were making these serious allegations and the investigators are going to make a determination as to what this is about. And whether we should or shouldn't believe andrew cuomo for me to do so well for anybody at this moment to do so without the benefit of all the facts really runs counter to everything that we know about And believe in and and the fairness of Aging process and for him to pretty pretty much You know openly acknowledged that what charlotte bennett alleged around The questions that he was asking her And the way that it made her feel as if he was coming onto her he has. He did not deny that. Line of questioning. And and that. Line of commentary But he has said previously you know he thought it was under different pretenses that he was acting as a mentor. But if he's acknowledging that the things that she alleges he said to her or true. Don't you think that at this point in anyone's career That that they would know that that type of talk was out of bounds with a subordinate of that nature. I i wanna take issue with the statement that he acknowledged that everything was true. I don't know that he did it in in. I think there's context that we haven't really heard of so. I know I would say to you. It's the only thing he denied was inappropriately touching anyone he he did. He doesn't didn't seem in you know in all his comments today didn't seem to deny any anything else other than physical contact and i was and i think had he done. So let's imagine had he done so had he chosen to go into the specifics and had he done so what would be the result. After which today. I think the answer is let an independent designator with the emotion. Out of it and with a judicial. I if you will An ear take a look at this and come up with exactly what they believe happened. And so i don't think he used today's format for the purpose of going through the details. And i'm certainly not going to prejudge it one way or the other. Frankly i'm just saying. And all i have been saying is let this investigation which everybody called for go forward. Why would you call for an investigation. Get an investigation and then choose to ignore it investigation. I mean that doesn't make any sense. So i think everybody i think a lot of the people who are calling for his resignation. Frankly where people who haven't gotten along with them for a long time and are relishing. This looks po. Politics really ought to enter that aspect of it. I think that everybody that is That is fair minded would would agree. Okay maybe he's terrible. Maybe is is the worst person in the world but let an investigation. Get to the details over the next two months or so which is about what it would take. And then we'll have the answers that that we can go with and if it turns out by the way that things are as bad as they may look Then we're going to have to do as a party. You know the right thing and and we will. And i'm not going to have been asked before okay. What are you going to do this. You're going do. I'm gonna wait. I'm not here to make a headline. I'm going to wait and hear what happens from that. Investigation and then As the chair of the party. I'll have something to say about it. I wanted to ask what you make of Representative kathleen rice from your neck of the woods on long island Calling for the governor to resign and And what your reaction to that was want. Obviously i don't catholic very well with friends and work with her a long time. I think you know in kathleen. I recruited her to be the district attorney here in nassau county and i to get elected the first time and she served as the district attorney and the district attorney the prosecutor. Even though we're not talking necessarily about criminal matters. I believe i mean. It may come to that. But i don't believe so I i would have to say as a prosecutor you wouldn't indict someone without proper investigation and you certainly wouldn't convict them without a proper investigation. So i think frankly In this case that she jumped the gun. I just don't think it's appropriate It's you know. Are we setting the standard that as soon as someone is accused of someone of something and it sounds somewhat legitimate and in this certainly does sound that way That immediately you must resign. That's the end of it. You're accused you go. Is that the standard setting. I just need to know. Well shannon setting. It's going to be a very tough standard for a lot of people to endure. You know. And i don't think that's the right way for us to operate right under understand european that she did. She did wait until there was a third accusation of inappropriate behavior by the governor. This was not a you know she did. She did not necessarily jump to resignation when lindsay boylans accusations came out. She heard lindsay. Wiltshire charles bennett and then When the when the allegation around the inappropriate conduct at the wedding came out. That's when she called for resignation. So i think it was more on a on a pattern there but Since you just have a couple more minutes are you You know are you actively concerned and trying to work on sort of democratic party unity here. I mean kathleen. Rice says a high profile democratic member of congress. Calling for the governor to resign. There's been a number of state. Legislators as you mentioned many of them are people who the governor has had longstanding issues with. But i'm or you as the state party chair trying to rally democrats to sort of stick with governor until this at least until this investigation is over. How are you trying to approach party unity here. Well i let All of the Elected officials know Through a statement and all of the county chairs now through a statement what my position was and that was the statement issued Yesterday and pretty much goes along the lines of what i've been saying here I for instance had a call today. From state senator scopus is a friend of mine ships goofs from a from upstate who told me that he was going to ask for the governor's resignation. He was kind enough to give me a heads up on it. And i appreciate it very much. And i respect him. And i think he's a great state senator and we had You know a a a very open minded conversation about it very brief and i appreciate it and giving me a heads up and i understand people are going to feel a different way and some of them are gonna go. You try to tell them not to do that. No i did convince him not to do. No i did. Not in other words i i. I understood that he had made up his mind. I told him. I g i i wish he would do it. But you've made up your mind. I respect you your friend and You know when the when the dust settles we'll all be getting together. I don't want this to be something to break the party apart. My main concern right now is that we get a budget done for the state that we to deal with this pandemic and then we position our local candidates who are up this november throughout the state and county and city. We position them in a strong way. So they get a you know. That's that's what i'm looking to do. But i understand and i understand. They're going to be different views on this in our in our last two minutes here Give us a minute on each of in your mind here is this is unfolding with the governor in this investigation is is about to happen. What's the best case scenario from your point of view. And what's the worst case scenario. Well i'm only looking toward the scenario where we get to the truth Or as close to the truth is you can possibly get not having cameras and people. Maybe there were but Certainly cameras there to see exactly what happened in the context of what had happened and and I think for the governor He would say i would surmise that. The best outcome would be the one that corresponds to his statements. Today that he he said some inappropriate things that were not intended for The way that they were Taken and it stays like that And then i think that you know he he would find that To be the best circumstance obviously for him you know the worst circumstance would be that the investigation would establish a far more various View of the matter. So you know again. I don't you know without the the benefit of and i sure don't want to be be a judge or jury here without the benefit of the the details and context and the complete conversation and a relationship among the people and and how it developed and where it went without all of that. You don't have the full Picture i would say What this was about and again when you hit that it may turn out to be awful. Not saying it's gonna be exculpatory. But in may i don't know but that's why i have been advocating and continued advocate for patients. Let's have the investigation and then we'll have the answer and we'll know what to do. And lastly jay jacobs appreciate the time and we'll let you go on this Have you spoken to lieutenant governor. Kathy hokuto about all this and and any conversation about her possibly needing to to step in as governor. I'm not talking about any of the next steps. In that regard other words. No i i i would not be doing that at this juncture. It did seem doesn't seem to me appropriate to be doing that at this point in time. Obviously if things Get to that point then those conversations. We have very close to cathy hokkaido. I like her an awful lot. We've been friends a very very long time. She's terrific But know that it would be something that that would occur down the line win it if that should be necessary understood. Jacobs we do appreciate the time and you. You're taking all of these These questions from us Thank you for joining us again and be well thank you. I always find a i always find. It's a tough but fair you. So i appreciate it. Thank you very much all right. Thank you for all right. Jared We've talked to a member of the state senate from queens Jessica rommel who wants the governor to resign. We've talked to the state democratic party chair. Jay jacobs who want to see the governor. Stay in office and at least see where the investigation. That's about to unfold lands. would you think of the conversations here. Today was very interesting. Conversation with two. Very very smart and articulate. And i think very genuine guests i always love having both of them on the most recent one sticks. My mind is because it was the most recent. And i think you know moving beyond the words. Jay said the tone of his responses to me. I think indicates if if i needed any further indication just how serious. The situation is for the governor The fact that if we take him at his word and i do that he did. Not even try to counsel Senator scott office out of calling for resignation And the j. openly discussing explicitly but referring to the possibility that we may be heading to Three term governor the head of the party at one point one of the most popular man in america about a year ago Might be heading toward point. Possibly where he might phase accusations that would perhaps drive him from office. I think that's kind of a sobering tone at some sobering facts from the democratic party. Chair that reflect. Just how hot water is For the governor. Yeah i was struck by the too. I mean you know. Jj done a couple of other interviews in the last couple of days that i've caught just a in part in preparation for this but also just because Of course it's interesting to hear the state party chair. React to this You know major crisis moment for the governor that you so close with the governor of the state and i've been i've been a little bit surprised with how gravy sounds and i know he obviously has to be very careful to take all this seriously Very seriously and for the good of the democratic party in new york for the good of the state But i've been a little bit surprised about how he's addressed it and in this conversation as well You know he's he's he's not really downplaying this and while he's urging caution You know it is interesting. The terms that he's he's talking here about what single thing the governor and what may may come and You know nothing around. That was as significant as you know his answer to one of the first questions which that yes he you know. He presumes to believe the woman. Women making the allegations which i think You know should be the standard. And that's the standard of the governor. Cuomo has set out there but when governor cuomo's involved significant to the state party chair say that i'm jerry murphy been max thanks for joining us a maximum tune in next week until then have a great week in the greatest city in the world post.

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What Next: Why Cuomo Wont Resign

Trumpcast

28:29 min | Last month

What Next: Why Cuomo Wont Resign

"Pay trump guest listeners. Me virginia heffernan for the past four years. I've hosted trump cast on this feed. I've done hundreds of episodes each one devoted to another angle on the trump catastrophe and then all of a sudden it was blessedly over. Trump is out but sometimes the republic still seems broke. Down my next podcast. After trump is a guidebook alongside legal scholars jack goldsmith and bob our both excellent former trump gassed guests to reforming our laws norms and ethical codes. So we'll never get in that fix again. You'll hear from mary. Trump david corn. David farren told and some of your favorite voices from trump cast after trump is coming soon to a podcast app near you to learn more. Go to after trump pod dot com. That's after trump pod dot com. But i've got some other big news. I want to introduce you to another slate podcast that i hope you'll check out it's called. What next and it's one of my favorites. Every weekday host. Mary harris takes on one big story and goes deep behind the headlines. What next helps you sift through the news. Giving you the kind of understanding you won't find just scrolling on your phone so check it out and if you enjoy the episode make sure to subscribe to what next in your podcast ap. Okay so jimmy. It's it hasn't even been a month and feel like the stories changed. Yeah it seems like the situation. Here is changing nachos day by day hour by hour the last time i spoke with the wall street. Journal's jimmy viole kind. We were talking about a nursing home scandal. That was threatening to bend new york governor. Andrew cuomo's third term in office new york governor. Andrew cuomo is denying that the number of corona virus deaths connected to nursing. Homes has been vastly underreported. The governor denies that he or his staff did anything wrong here but some who have lost loved ones they disagree and behind this scandal where allegations of toxic culture in new york state capital critics say years of bullying by the governor and his staff coming home to roost. This is federal prosecutors on the fbi looking to see if the cuomo administration's apparent refusal for months to release accurate nursing home death data amounts to a crime but in the last few weeks the scandal has kept growing and now the focus is on accusations of sexual harassment. New at six o'clock a former aide to governor cuomo accuses him of years of sexual harassment. Lindsay boylan worked for the cuomo administration. Third woman now accuses new york governor andrew cuomo of harassment adding to the allegations against governor andrew cuomo a seventh woman now coming forward accusing him of inappropriate behavior. The governor continuing to say he will not step down. What is march usually like in albany. My i mean as a new yorker it. It's usually pretty busy in march right. That sort of the high season of lobbying in debate around the new york state budget which is due on march. Thirty one And to an extent. That's still happening. But i imagine it looks pretty different this year. It's just kind of plotter aside plot to the much larger questions about what's going to happen to governor andrew. Cuomo what is going to happen to governor andrew. Cuomo many of his colleagues seemed to hope. He'll just go away this morning. Almost all of the states democratic congress people are calling on cuomo to go along with its two. Us senators majority leader. Chuck schumer and kirsten gillibrand. Unfortunately because of the numerous credible allegations the governor has lost the ability to work with his other governing partners and has lost the support of the state which is why. I thought he should resign now. Of course it's not after them whether governor cuomo resigned or not. it's up to governor cuomo. He may choose not to. But certainly you've known governor cuomo along time. Do you think there's any chance he would resign. I've talked to people who are close to the governor. And who are familiar with his thinking and this weekend one of them told me no. He's not resigning. He's not stepping down not this week not today. Not tomorrow not next week. People who've worked with him say he will be defiant Sort of the reverse churchill wine. You'll find on the beaches. You will find the cities you'll never give up. You'll never surrender. He's not rolling over today on the show. If governor cuomo doesn't rollover we'll his democratic colleagues give him a push an update on the scandal in albany. I'm mary harrison. You're listening to what next stick with us. I gotta say. I personally never seen so many scandals of such a wide variety fall on one politician at one time the last time we spoke it was you know. Komo's being accused of ju- king the cova nursing home deaths statistics and that scandal was already kind of beginning to evolve into a scandal over workplace bullying a week or two later became a crisis about sexual harassment. How many women have accused cuomo of sexual harassment at this point well. It's three former members of his staff and one woman whose name the wall street journal is withholding who is a current member of his staff who have have claimed that the governor either behaved inappropriately toward them or sexually harassed them And there are other women who have come forward and described interactions with the governor that burr inappropriate or that made them uncomfortable in social settings in some ways but they they are not necessarily Employees or were not employed by governor cuomo at the time of those interactions. So it depending on how you count. I think that there are many as seven people who've come forward with specific complaints in more who have just sort of acknowledged this pattern of behavior. Yeah wanna linger a bit on the accusations because what stands out to me looking at all the different accusations there. There's just a wide variety of them is that they're consistent in the kinds of things. They're alleging most of the time like the governor touched me on the small of my back. The governor made me feel small as a woman and it's all kinds of people from journalists. Who worked around the governor who worked more in his inner circle and so i think what stands out when you see the number is just they make sense together in a certain way. I wonder if that stood out to you as well. Well clearly there is a pattern here and clearly. In some instances. The governor in his aides are not denying what people like on a list A thirty five year old woman who who worked on the governor's executive chamber from thirteen to twenty fifteen described to me in an interview earlier this month and she described Sitting at her desk and having the governor asked questions about her personal life including whether she had a boyfriend she said that at one point when she rose from her desk he he kissed her hand she described in encounter at a function at the state executive mansion in which the governor walked up said. Hi sweetheart or something like that Kissed both of her cheeks turned and put his hand around her waist than in posed for a picture with her something at an older generation. Might i don't know come off as gentlemanly but in the current environment. Not so much. We'll analyst told me. Was that taken together. All of these behavior is made her feel reduced from a working professional to in her words quote just a skirt and and albany is now having a debate that i think many workplaces and many people have had particularly since the revelations about harvey weinstein in twenty seventeen about what acceptable workplace behavior is and where there are instances of smaller acts That that make people uncomfortable. What response and what mechanisms and how much of a big deal are they And that's a debate that is playing out publicly in the new york state legislature as state lawmakers consider whether or not to take any kind of further action or sanction against governor cuomo. And you can sort of see how this debate is churning forward and different folks are weighing in with how they feel about it just just looking at the way. The accusations have played out like the first avocation was from a woman named lindsay boylan. Who's running for manhattan. Borough president and i remember reading it. She she wrote an essay in medium and thinking. Wow this is so specific. Her allegations begin with the governor. Allegedly saying to her. Let's play strip poker. And i thought whoa this is just a bomb but at the same time it took a while for people to pay attention and i think they really only started clicking into these allegations when more and more of them came out what analysts told me was that that she was sort of moved to speak up and tell her story when she saw other women doing. So she was. I think the third former aide to the governor to describe an experience about her work in the executive chamber is since since the the sort of metaphorical damn has been breached It's been easier as a reporter to hear about these kinds of things from people who have worked in with and around the governor. I will note that that governor cuomo has said that boylans statement about strip poker is untrue but the governor has apologized if any of his workplace behavior made people uncomfortable. Yeah the governor's kind of had this evolution in his response. Because when that first accusation came out it was really just deny deny deny there is a press release that went out with staffers signing onto it saying listen. We were on flights with the governor and with lindsay. Boylan where she's alleging something occurred and we didn't see anything and here. The flight manifests so aggressive. Pushback and then as more and more allegations surfaced you saw in early march. The governor had a press conference where he apologized. I now understand that. I acted in a way that made people feel uncomfortable. It was unintentional. And i truly and deeply apologize for i feel awful about it and frankly i am embarrassed by it. He seemed to take a turn or more recently. He's been saying you know. I think the voters know the difference between a real allegation and cancel culture. Let the review proceed. I'm not going to resign. I was not elected by the politicians. I was elected by the people and he even went so far as to say you know. I'm not part of the political club. Which is a weird thing to say when your father was governor of new york and you are now governor of new york. Can you talk a little bit about the governor's evolution here will. His response has shifted as the world around him has shifted. It became clear that on the one hand. He's responding to accusations. That were made in are floating in the public sphere but then it became a question of those accusations. Prompting a political response that he needed to address in the political response being this impeachment investigation and calls for his resignation from official rules and with respect to those latter two things. He has been defiant. He has pushed hard. He said that lawmakers calling for his resignation or motivated by politics. He has said that he will not resign because of accusations. Mere allegations And and as you pointed out mary he did reference cancel culture and he. He said he's he's not part of the political club. Inter cuomo has been working on political campaigns. Since before i was born he is the political club or has been. It was a statement that struck many people I will say he's doing all of this at the same time that he is also expressing some level of contrition over how he behaved toward His accusers and how he in his office culture and demeanor Comported himself and it's it is a similar approach. And it's an approach that i know from my reporting has moved people to come forward and react. There is a fourth woman who's not been named publicly. Who said that. The governor touched her inappropriately during an encounter at the state executive mansion in twenty twenty In my reporting reveals that this woman who currently works on the governor's staff watched his apology. Press conference on march third and became upset by it and that her story came to light to her colleagues when they saw her get upset in her office. Watching the governor. Speak about this so at this. Point governor cuomo's responses to the accusations against him are in some instances prompting more people to come forward the reporting is that the governor put his hand under her blouse right. That's what the albany times union has reported. Yes and that to me. That allegation is it's a step beyond some of the allegations that came out beforehand about language in the workplace and feelings that had they were being demeaned yes Many lawmakers have have said exactly that and that they said that they did consider it to be a a step beyond. And i don't think it's any accident that that four allegation when it was first publicized by the albany times union. That's when you heard democrats who control the state assembly say. They were launching impeachment investigation. And that's after that four allegation that you heard top leaders in washington including chuck schumer kirsten gillibrand and members of the state's congressional delegation democratic members. Say that governor. Cuomo needed to step aside you had to ask. You've had your own run ins with governor cuomo where he's sort of knocked around publicly at press conferences not physically but verbally and it just made me wonder is the kind of behavior you're hearing about now behavior. The you and other reporters have known about for a long time. I think it's been clear. That governor cuomo drove his staff to work very very long hours. It's been known and clear and reported that he raises his voice at times. I will say diplomatically but as the sexual harassment new. Because i know that you know at least one reporter who was a reporter for politico talked about a similar instance at a christmas party where the governor touched her in a way that made her feel uncomfortable and jeevan with other reporters about it afterwards so it seems like even that was known earlier and it just made me wonder like why wasn't it reported on until now what what's in my reporting what's happening now is people are willing to speak with detail and depth about the effects on them of this behavior and while there were there was some knowledge Be at specific knowledge or general knowledge about some of these behaviors. I think what's happening now. Is that people are describing the effects in a way that is re contextualising these behaviors for the public and sort of fueling the moment that we're now in when we come back the reasons. The governor is staying in office for now so governor cuomo. He seems to be in the fight for his political life. But he's making this point. That i think is really relevant. Which is that. There's a difference between losing the confidence of politics around you and losing the confidence of your constituents. There was this poll that came out of monday. Finding that the governor's favorability rating had gone down but only thirty five percent of new york. Voters said he should resign. So i wonder looking at that whether you think the folks who want to see movement here who want to move forward with impeachment who to who are asking the governor to resign whether though that kind of information is really going to prevent those efforts from moving forward that poll was seen by the governor's allies as terrible news and in particular. It showed that sixty nine percent of black voters. Surveyed did not feel that the governor should resign and he keeps appearing with a black and latino clergy At events usually to talk about the corona virus and to talk about krona virus. Vaccinations but the subtext Political observers in state lawmakers say as quite clear. He's showing the he has support in this community Which is of course a critical constituency in the state but also in democratic politics in the state. So i think what it's going to do is it's going to give andrew cuomo fuel to continue his fight and to keep pushing and we have to wait and see exactly where that's going to lead. Yeah and there are multiple layers to what's going on right now like the attorney. General is investigating the harassment allegations and the state legislature could act. But i think there's been some back and forth about whether there's foot-dragging here whether some members especially the democratic caucus want to surge ahead and move forward quickly with impeachment and others don't can you explain what's going on yet. The democrats who control the state assembly are divided about this issue. I just to go into math. There are one hundred fifty members of the assembly there hundred and seven members of the democratic conference and of them. We know that forty signed a letter calling for governor cuomo to resign. Twenty one members signed the letter saying attorney general james investigation should be allowed to continue. Eight of them are on record saying that. Governor cuomo should be impeached and saying that they support his impeachment. and so somebody speaker. Carl hasty manage all of these constituencies. And he's put forward what some people have described as a a middle ground in which he is having this impeachment inquiry. It's gathering fact. As of wednesday saint patrick's day the assembly announced it. Had hired a manhattan law firm davis polk to lead its investigation. And it's unclear how long that investigation will take. Were will be yielded at the end so in one way the assembly is marching toward impeachment. But there are questions as to how fast as marching and whether it is marching fast enough. Yeah i mean. I've heard a lot of talk about how it's happening in. New york is revealing these kind of fault lines in the metoo movement that some people look at. What's alleged about governor cuomo and say well. I don't know if that's something that someone should leave a job. Four and other people see something really different. But i wondered too if in new york. It's really revealing the faultlines and the democratic party for years governor cuomo fought off a kind of progressive surge and really kept the legislature under his control and he he lost that battle and now he's dealing with a legislature where there are a lot of progressives but they're not in charge of the democrats entirely and so what you're seeing is a little back and forth as democrats figure out where they stand here. That's very astute. Mary there definitely seems to be overlap between these progressive lawmakers who are first of all newer to arrive in albany and generally speaking younger people And they seem to have a different perspective on these allegations than people who are older who are were elected with more support from the party establishment And who are generally more willing to give the governor a little bit of breathing room. This is a question this question between the progressives in the institutionalists and you can call it however you want that. The democratic party has been playing out in elections for well. You could trace it back to nineteen sixty eight. but of course the the contemporary The contemporary spats our between people like bernie sanders and joe biden and governor. Cuomo is very clearly in that joe biden wing of the democratic party and of the democratic constituency. Here in new york What we saw were the progressive wing of the party make serious legislative gains in the twenty sixteen and particularly in the twenty eighteen elections and again this past year in the twenty twenty elections. What we haven't seen is on abroad. Statewide basis progressive challengers to governor cuomo and his lieutenant governor kathy focal. We haven't seen success on that scale and on that level so to the extent that this is a question about impeachment is driven by lawmakers each responsible to a smaller subset of individual constituents. I looked to predict exactly what's going to happen. And exactly what the response there will be. It's funny you talk about how komo is is more of the biden wing of the party and i totally agree with you but it was interesting to me to watch. Joe biden this week be asked about governor cuomo and have him say yes. I think he should resign. And he'll probably be prosecuted if these allegations are found to be true by independent reporting. It made me wonder a little bit about the democrats in new york. And whether they're kind of painted into a corner here where enough of them have come forward and said cuomo should resign. cuomo should be impeached. That the relationship with the governor is now pretty broken and you know there's that line from the wire when you come at the king you best not miss like you once you've gone this far. It's really hard to real things back in. Like if you don't move forward and get him out of office then you have a pretty bitter guy. The you're having to work within the executive suite that's exactly right and as to go back to march in albany is normally about the budget. It's normally about decisions that will impact taxation that impact. How many teachers local schools can have That impact what kind of healthcare is available to people who don't have the means to pay for it themselves and it's going to be an uncharted dynamic to see how leaders of the legislature will work or not work with the governor to make those decisions make those important governmental decisions but lawmakers with whom. I've spoken say that there are continued challenges in working on real policy with governor cuomo given the situation that he's in some of the people who have called for the governor's resignation have explicitly said it's not a question of the allegations and whether or not it's believed that the allegations are true or not true but simply that at this point they feel governor. Cuomo is just too distracted to govern and at the end of the day that seems to be an argument whether or not he can just do the job that he was elected to do That that strikes me as very salient and is something that more and more people even those who don't want to necessarily say they all supported impeachment or even call. For the governor's resignation are repeating. Reveal kind so much for your time. Thanks very pleasant. Jimmy kind covers new york state politics for the wall street journal and that is the show. What next is by carmel. Shod mary wilson. Daniel hewitt davis land and elena schwartz. We are led by alison benedict unleashing. Montgomery i'm mary harris. Thanks for listening. Stay tuned to this feed. Because tomorrow or friday show what next. Tvd is going to be here with lizzie. O'leary and i will get you back here next week.

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0184: Vote Mama with Liuba Grechen Shirley (2/13/2019)

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0184: Vote Mama with Liuba Grechen Shirley (2/13/2019)

"Hi, this is teddy in this is third. They're listening to start coupon. Tics, we want you to vote for bombs. Are you listening? Hi, everyone. This is Kelly with two brads talking politics. And I am on in this episode with the founder and CEO of the vote, mama pack, Luebbe Gretchen, Shirley, highly. I think so much having me. Yeah. Thanks so much for joining me. I'm really excited to talk to you. This is probably one of the segments. I've been the most excited about doing. I'm just thrilled that you could join me. So I think we'll maybe wrap back around to what vote mama is. But maybe we could start a little bit with your story. You ran for congress in twenty eighteen and in doing so you made a little bit of history in who used her campaign funds. So talk a little bit about sort of your your story of fronting office. Sure, I was not finding running for office. I had a one year old and a three year old, and I launched my campaign, and I we're gonna comic development in poverty alleviation, and the thought of running for congress with two babies with not something was not something I thought of doing, but I I have presentative you has just been in office since I was twelve years old and here has consistently voted again. Working people in our district and a man who's ready to family leave? He's voted against equal pay for women for equal work. He's voted against even take healthier than seventy four thousand people my district alone. And it's a had enough and really had enough. And MRs this is someone who supported the Muslim bound you had McCarthy style Muslim hearings and he needed to he needed to have a challenge real challenge. And the the twenty five years that he has been in office. He hadn't he hasn't held one town hall, but he's written three finals enough time. And so I decided to run and there there's really no playbook for how to run for office, and especially no playbook for how to do with babies. And I was told I have to raise a hundred thousand dollars before anybody would take new seriously, and I've spent my entire career working on profits. I don't come from a wealthy family. I don't have a wealthy network. And I ended up raising a hundred and twenty six thousand in two months before I hired any stuff, and I did that with all small dollar contributions. No corporate talk money, and our average contribution at that point. I think was around seventy five dollars. It was a we built a grassroots movement. That's excellent. And so you had a one year old and a three year old, and in what was that like an akin pain trail for you? It was hard you. There's a reason that so many millionaires on office people who are already independently wealthy people who have a lot of help people who can afford childcare people who don't need to worry about not having a salary, and it was it was difficult to do this. As a as a working mom as somebody who isn't independently wealthy with two children. And I didn't have a babysitter for the first six months of the campaign. I relied on my mom schoolteacher, and she would come home at three thirty every day. She would take my soul dron then. But during during the day, I had the babies with me all day, and then I would be doing call time while juggling one year old and three year old, and it was a difficult. My son actually broke his leg in January and ended up in about he has two months, and we still manage to continue the campaign, and he got better. And by the time. I think it was early March. And we finally hired a part time babysitter. And they're only they're only twenty five moms right now in congress. You have children who are younger than eighteen. But there over a hundred ads, and there's there's a reason for that. When your mom running with most, silver and donors, don't take you. Seriously. The press doesn't take you seriously, even voters don't take your seriously, they think that you don't have the time to put in. But that's that's exactly what we need an office more. Moms who understand what's so many working parents are going through at this point young. It's a probably appropriate that I'm talking to you today yesterday. I was with my four year old who was sick. And tomorrow, I will again be home with my four year old. And and I I know what that's like to to juggle that, you know, dealing with kids who are sick and having school issues and appointments, they need to go to and and also working fulltime. And I imagine it's even harder when you're running for office and have such a schedule that the various so much from day to day where you need to be in. What you need to be doing. It's crazy. If you don't realize when you run for office, it's twenty four seven there are no days off it's been. I mean, it was more than a year that you know, that I haven't had a day off and trying to juggle that schedule with little children is difficult. And that's why there's actually why I started vote mama because there are all of these talks it that focus on getting women elected. But we're the first pack in the country to actually focus on getting moms elected. And you need you need that support. I mean, there was there was one particularly bad day where I've been at the doctor's office with child after after he broke his leg for their few hours. And he was he was a best, and I just got my kids home, but then down. Ver- nap and left them with my mother and went back to the office. And that was the Dave and Elizabeth Warren called me for the first time, and she ended up giving me this incredible mom pep talk. And it wasn't just kind. It was honestly necessary. And there have been times throughout my campaign. The you know, I've talked to Senator deliver under talked to the governor happy hopeful women who have who have run and one with children before. And that support is is necessary. I noticed this postures who we talked to ton of candidates in the run-up to the election and several of the candidates in the women that we talked to one, but not as many of the mothers specially mothers of young children one. I think there were about seven of us actually seven of us that had children who were two or younger, and none of with children who were two or younger one talk to me about the the way that campaign funds. I think a lot of people in general just don't understand a lot about campaign finance. It's pretty complicated in murky stuff. And so in. The in the past people were not able to use federal campaign funds for childcare. They weren't able to there just wasn't a ruling that allowed them to do. It was it was kind of one of those that happened approved actually una case case basis for three men in the past one who had asked, you know, if he could use some campaign funds on babysitters so his wife conjoined him for a campaign event that was approved. But it was never an official ruling. There wasn't a Corum the SEC's. There wasn't an official ruling in this. This was the first official ruling that will have changed the way the people will run for office. So there are there. Plenty of people who don't understand that campaign funds are are private donations. There were few questions from people who thought that it was taxpayer funded money. And it's it's not right now, we don't have publicly financed elections. And when you're when you're spending the time raising the money when you run for congress. You're you're doing about forty hours of call time of week. And then you're spending another fifty to sixty seventy hours out there talking to people, and it's it's crazy because that's what that's what it takes to run for office. You have to raise millions of dollars. So most people they're doing that. They're. Working twenty four seven, and they're not able to hold down a job in the salary and most working parents aren't able to to do that. And also pick up the cost of child here. And we put them this request. They actually approved. It was a unanimous bipartisan decision sucks news actually said it was the one bipartisan thing they could agree with knocking, and then we actually saw nine federal candidates, including a man take advantage of the ruling and use their campaigns on childcare we have seen moms in eight different states put in similar request. We thought a Republican male state Representative from Utah who cosponsored a Bill to allow state candidates and Utah to be able to use their campaigns on some childcare. It's it's changing the way that working parents run for office. That's really exciting. And so hopeful that we will start to see more and more parents of young children. But especially moms of young children, you know, remember in twenty sixteen when Hillary Clinton was running for president just thinking, I can't imagine having. President. Who knows what breastfeeding is like that is just so exciting. And of course, we still don't, but hopefully, hopefully soon. Five candidates this year. I'm really excited about that. It's it's interesting. So there's actually there's a woman who is running for states. Her name is Morgan the Mondrian. She's running in Louisiana. She put in a request to her state election commission, people to her campaigns on child care, they denied the request for her even though in the past they have approved it for four men, and they told her that she had misplaced priorities, and that her primary responsibility is to take care of her children, and she is actually appealing that decision. And I wrote a letter of support for her case. But that's exactly right. There is the difference and the double standard if a man requested it's approved if a woman across did she has misplaced priorities. Tell me about vote, mama. And in what your plans are with this pack going to support moms. We're running up and down the ballot across the country. They have to be democratic mothers with children who are eighteen or younger. They need to support paid family. Leave universal pre-k and be pro choice, and we really want people who are going to go out there and talk about the issues that American families are facing we are twenty seventh and education in the world. We are the only country other than to get that does not have paid family beef. We're the only developed country without universal health care. We have the worst maternal mortality rate in the developed world. We want counted. So we're going to go out there and talk about those issues. We're going to go out and talk about taxes, and how people can't afford to working people are having trouble making ends meet. I mean, there are people in my district right now who are working three jobs and yet make ends meet. And it's people are struggling, and we wanna make sure that we have candidates. We're going to be tempting for working families. And we wanna get more moms elected, you know, there. There are. Even with this stork hundred sixteen congress. They're still only twenty five women who have children who are under eighteen and that needs to change we need people in office who who understand these issues because they're living with them right now. They know how difficult it is to find quality affordable childcare, and we're going to provide the funds, the mentorship and the networking for these mothers and see that you have this really great advice or committee. That's been formed including a few women who've been on this podcast, so listeners may remember kilroy's Lauren bear and Regina Bateson. So tell me a little bit about than the role of the advisory committee advisory committee is I'm so excited about this. Because usually when you have an adviser committee. They're not going to be interacting with the candidates as much this advisory committee is going to be there to serve as mentors. One of the one of the hardest decisions. It's just it's just figuring out. How to do it? How to juggle it with children, the logistics of it, and you need to be able to have those behind the scenes, no nonsense conversations to talk to other women who. Both run on one and in bossed. But if they know how to do children, if they can give you that that emotional support that mentorship. That's what's really critical and would really helped me. I remember. I remember finding articles with a quote here there from grace bang or deliberate about running with children and thinking if they could do it I can do it. But since since I ran my campaign, I've got the opportunity to get to know them to have long conversations to talk to them about how they do that. And just to be able to have this conversation is so critical there there times during your campaign when you're running with children that you will be called every name in the book, and you will be called a bad mother. And if you can reach out to other moms who've done it, it's really helpful. And they're also donors who don't take moms small children as serious as other candidates. And so we want to be able to give the resources the funding necessary, but to put them in touch. So we're gonna put out our first group of endorsed candidates in early April. And we're going to schedule calls for for our. Candidates with our advisory committee members we actually just had a happy hour for for three candidates already applied for support. And some people who are very involved in my campaign with Lieutenant governor Kathy Huckle and just to be able to sit there for an hour or two and and have a few drinks and talk about what the experience is like it was really necessary. And it's inspiring people when they see other women doing this. They think okay, I can do this. And there are a lot of women who were actively working on my campaign who were volunteers who've now decided to step up and run because they thought I did that with small children. So now, they're running one of the things I loved about your campaign about several other campaigns that we slow around the country was how present your kids were in the campaign. And so I think that that's one of the other pieces that is interesting to me is getting donors in in the media to take you seriously. But also showing how important your kids on your family or to your life and and into the decision. Make if you are elected, you talk a little bit about sort of that that balance, you know, it's something we're seeing increasingly in candidates, but it's still not the norm. Yes. I actually had a reporter asked me during the campaign. She said when did you decide to run it yourself, and I've heard it into laughing. I genuinely wasn't sure what she was asking. If she was joking or not I said, well, what do you mean? Who else would I run us? And she said, no, you talk about your family, and you talked about your life and your struggles and your kids, and she did you don't shy away from being a mom, and you know, when Hillary Clinton would talk about being a grandmother, she said it really fell flat. And people didn't didn't connect with that. She said was a strategic decision to talk about your kids into included them. And I started to laugh I said, no, you know, when you have a one year old and a three year old, and I was nursing when I started the campaign. There was no way to separate who I am as a mother from who I was a candidate and people people need to see that in the past when women ran they hid their children. They didn't talk about their kids and. And I my kids were front and center not only because in the beginning. I didn't have a babysitter. But because I love them in to spend as much time with them as possible. And when you're campaigning that's difficult. So I have them with me at campaign events. There were so many times that my daughter was running around me while he was giving speeches. I don't know if you saw the video of Gavin Newsom when he gave his acceptance speech and his two year old round up on stage video went viral and everyone thought about he's a great dad. He gets he gets what American families are going through. But when women do that, usually there were criticized, but it's it's necessary. And we've seen that this this election cycle. I think people really ran themselves. They didn't shy away from who they were. And I've talked to so many moms are in congress right now. I mean, there's there's a ethics photo of Abigail van burger giving her sentence each with her four year old between her legs. And that's that's what working turns look like. That's what it looks like to juggle running for office and being a parent, and we need more parents office. The reality is that our government is set up for wealthy older men. And we if you have more mom's office, you wouldn't have representatives who let funding for chip laps. If you have people in office to actually rely on chip children's health insurance program for their healthcare that funding would never that. We would be having a different conversation. If you've changed the voices of actually sitting at the table, you start you'll start to see policies that actually benefit working families that will strengthen our economy in this country. Yeah, I think it's it's really inspirational to for for people who are working. You know, I have been advised along the way to not be so much of a mom in my work life. Right. You know that? The that might hurt your chances of promotion, and I've done the opposite. I've sort of leaned into being a mother, and what that means in the hopes that other people other women will see that and be inspired. And and so I think it it means a lot to me to see candidates who who show that they do have families and net their their families in their kids are really an important part of who they are. Time women are forty years old eighty six percent of us are moms. That's I mean, that's a huge portion of the country. And if you see more moms in office people who look like, you people who are talking about issues that matter to you people will start to pay more attention. When you see a lot of wealthy older men in office who are talking about. How how we have more corporately pulled how we give more tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires rather than how we can have quality affordable child care for all Americans you start to tune out, and you start to feel that you don't really have a voice at the table. And the government is not actually representing you. I've had enough of people in office who are who are slashing regulations who are not worrying about climate change. And what kind of fun it? We're going to leave her children and people who are actively, you know, our our representatives, including Peter King. I ran against that's like, oh, he actually voted to take maternity coverage away from thirteen million. American women women are dying in childbirth in this country. We have the worst maternal mortality rate in the developed world. Black women are four times more likely to die in childbirth and white women. This is a crisis in this country. And yet we have representatives who to take maternity coverage way that needs to change. So if people would like to get involved in vote, what are the ways that they can get involved? They can go to our website, which is vote mama dot org. Mama's spelled M A M A people can contribute. We have already received applications from than sixty moms in twenty five different states. We're gonna put out our first year of endorsed candidates in early April. So people would like to contribute. They can make a contribution online. That will help us provide the necessary resources to these incredible women who are running across the country. They can share our information on social media. They can invite their friends to join and find out more information and follow us. And we have the kickoff event coming coming up to York in March people people are interested. They can contact us through their website and come to that as well. And if people are interested in running you can go ahead and sign up if you are dead. Mom, who who needs are basic criteria policy issues. Please sign up tell us what you're interested in running for the are setting up interviews over the next month. We'd love to talk to you. This is really exciting. We'll be sharing a lot of your information on our social media. I had been saying all leading up to the twenty eighteen election that we needed a mom's caucus in congress. And it sounds like there's going to be amongst caucus now. So. There is one. It's it's incredible. I loved it. There's a mum's caucus. I've actually been speaking with many people involved with the moms caucus and just just the fact that they're that many women to put together is incredible. Yes, it is fantastic. So what do your kids think? Now are they enough to sort of understand the what you were doing running for office in what you're doing now? Yeah. My daughter understood the whole time, she was one of my favorite stories. It was New Year's Eve, and it was a to hear governor Cuomo announced the tapes on your program in New York, which is the strongest paint the program in any state, and she turned to me after the governor, finish speaking. And she said mama are you going to speak? Maybe it's not my event. And she looked at me confused because she was used to me speaking, everything at this point. She ran right up to the podium and asked me to pick her up and one of my favorite photos from her the entire campaign meal at the podium, giving his speech, and she she learned that mom's run for office. She was very much involved in the campaign. My son was I think a little too young to understand. He just had fun with all the campaign staff and going to. But I don't think he quite understood. But I was doing to see she really got it that is so excellent. My kids have been begging me to run for office. But I don't think they really understand what that would mean. Oh, you said to it. You have a particular office in mind. Well, I live in Chicago. And it's very hard to find offices that aren't already occupied by Democrats. But if you if you decide to run there's anything let me know we would love to to help. My my kids are all for it's a, but we'll see. How old are your kids? Your your son is four and a four and seven. Yeah. Two sons. Yes. And we live in the Obamas neighborhood where they live bashing Kogyo. And so there's Obama stuff everywhere. And so to them it's like people live in this neighborhood. They become president so mom should do it next. You do it. Now. I'm now I'm going to try to convince you to run. Well on that note. Is there anything else that you want to make sure that we talk about put together this mama's helping mama's Bank, basically, so women who want to get involved who who aren't running for office. But when donate their services, we had him on who who will take photographs for candidates professional headshots, we had lawyers said that they'll help pro Bono legal advice for new candidates. We've had people say they'll help together policy papers and forms. And so we've got all of these women stepping up and saying, you know, if you're running do, whatever I can to help you and we're going to connect some of the candidates that we endorse with some of these moms or who are willing and excited to help. That is accidents. Love it. I love it. And of course, we love talking to moms running for office onto roads talking politics. So, you know, feel free to send some candidates are way. Too. Sounds good. I will definitely do that. Well, thank you so much for for talking to me. Like, I said, this is one of the things I've been most excited about as soon as I saw I think it was vote run lead. Said that you were doing this than I was just so excited and mmediately was like. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm just I'm really excited about the outpouring of support. Elizabeth Warren films are launch video and the people who've joined our advisor committee. I mean, we have people who've run in one end run run him off kilter Roy's has joined I'm Jay Hager, who ran Texas joined learn there, I mean people people who people who still want to stay involved and make sure that they're supporting the next generation of moms who are going to run. It's it's just it's so exciting to see just see the support that that everyone wants to put into thank you so much. I will be looking forward to seeing yours. -letes endorsed candidates. And we'll be looking forward to seeing more moms in office. All right. Thanks so much. It was great talking to you. Thanks for listening to to broads talking politics. Are theme song is called. Are. You listening off of the album elephants shaped trees by the band, EMU Newry, and we're using it with permission of the band or logo and other original artwork. Is by Matthew Wesleyan and was created for use by this podcast?

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Brad McAreavy President Of The Rochester Auto Dealer Association

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Brad McAreavy President Of The Rochester Auto Dealer Association

"Saint Tallest, not the same thing I've seen it at the Fisher House the Fisher House I know is a huge part of recovery for somebody like my husband for them to know that, their family members are being taken care of that's a huge off of them so they can concentrate on their therapies. Just. Having that assurance that no matter what as long as we were there for Anson that someone would be there to take care of us. Took so much weight off our shoulders. How can you help go to fisherhouse dot org mostly sunny and sixty eight I've taught holiday newsradio Wamel of eighty next news at ten thirty breaking news when it happens anytime another hour with Bob Laws Bury starts now on newsradio well, eleven eighty. Thank you Sir I, appreciate it troops, I appreciate you showing up for muster. Hope all cool. COPACETIC on your end. Just a note there and I appreciate the thoughts and sentiments of the Lieutenant Governor. Kathy Hokuto but the senior female elected official in. New. York of course I believe would more correctly be senator. Kirsten Gillibrand right. I think An to joined by the president of the Rochester Area Auto Dealers Association Mr Brad mccreavy Sir Good Morning Luck with the broadcast. Good Morning Bob thanks for having you. Betcha. I appreciate your time and I am thanks for coming on with us. I. Just WanNa touch base and see how your members our auto dealers were doing. Yeah I I mean obviously it's been a bit of a rough ride back when things really started to. Become. Aware in in March car sales were equally affected like a lot of other businesses. So we had a couple of months and in March and April things started to. Work their way back in the month of May when. Certain provisions were allowed for customers to come back in the market. And be able to shop for vehicles and and since then it's it's it's improved June. Actually was a better month this year than it was a year ago. And July? Was a little bit down for a year ago so. It's working its way back to a a pretty decent level was. pent-up demand issue sir. I do yeah. Bob I. Do you know we had the the months of March? April may were down significantly forty, fifty, sixty percent. There were a lot of customers that were in Lisa's that were given deferrals. They were allowed to keep their lease vehicle for an extended period of time, and then there's a lot of people that were were not in the market at that time they they weren't comfortable coming back So yeah, June I think definitely was at a and I think what happened in? July, we probably would have just as good of a mon-. But. The inventory levels for the dealerships the new car stores are down now because the manufacturers were shut down for a couple of months and so all the production lines were were suspended. And in June the dealers essentially ran ran low on inventory. and and now we're waiting for that to sort of rebuild itself Brad Macaroni. The President Rochester Auto Dealers Association is that are how is house inventories and availability now sir? While it's still it's still down It's in the process of being rebuilt the used car side of the market. Bob Is very strong. Because access to use vehicles is is a little bit more readily available. They can dealers can go to auctions they obviously take cars on trade They even buy cars from customers what we call over the curb. So the the used car side of the market is actually quite strong right now but it's probably gonNA take better part of thirty to sixty days for the new car inventories to. Get back to where they would be normally from the standpoint. Brad macaroni, the Rochester Auto Dealers Association from the standpoint of keeping our dealers in business that that used car volume is good. Right? Because the margin is is better on used cars. Yeah. The used car market is very important. You know for for a dealer, it is a strong market the there's a sort of a a an advantage in the market Bob. We you make money on a used car when you take the car in not necessarily when you sell it. The market on the sell to the customers you know people shop and so. There's there's some some sort of equality to that whole selling process but if a dealer happens to acquire the vehicle in a in a in a good way than they can actually hold pretty good margins on it but to answer your question, you have the used car market is a very important driver in the dealership world are win is being Brad Mockery of Youth Rochester Auto Dealers, association in March and April and May. when cars couldn't be sold or or then we're slowing selling slowly. when a cars on the lot if I'm the dealer am I, paying interest on that the longer than a car is unsold on my property my does that hurt me financially sir. You are in the vast majority of the cases the Matori. That your ship is financed on a line of credit with a lender and it incurs interest every day. So. Yes every day that that car sitting there it's costing me. You know whatever that rate of interest is on that inventory for that period of time and so. Dealers are obviously motivated to try to turn that inventory as quickly as they can. but it's it's an expense to them to be able to to to sit on vehicles for long periods of time. So in the spring, they not only lost the cash flow they incurred higher finance phys because they they they couldn't pay back on those cars as quickly. Is Right right and and probably in many cases the lenders of that support. Those inventories maybe had to give him extensions on their lines of credit maybe even had to give them a temporary increase just because vehicles weren't moving, but they were still at that point they were still coming in. because the pipeline is there's a lag there. So the manufacturers are producing cars they're coming in, but they're not going out. So you get a little bit of a swelling in the mentor at that stage in the game is Brad mccreavy. Of course, she recognizes voices in Rochester auto dealers. Association. Are we in our dealers are okay are we in danger of losing any of them sir? no I don't think. So Bob I. Think they've gotten through the you know the the really tough bunch You know the obviously the programs that were put in place by the government the P P programs in some of the other assistance help them I think get through that period the march April. May Time period was was a real struggle. but through most of that, now we didn't lose. We didn't lose a dealer is due to closures during that time in Monroe County So I think at this stage. There they should be pretty in pretty good shape and move forward. In moving forward, we may do that for some period of time may be two or three years or something with a depressed economy. What what how does that impact the the dealers please Sir Yeah I that's the part that concerns me I think more at this stage bothers the broader economics of where we are. We still have very high unemployment in the area. So north of eleven percent, we obviously have a lot of. Distractions and things that are going on to school system situation probably being the most visible of all those but that affects people's. Lives in their jobs and their you know their ability to work and and so on a broad scale. That's probably my biggest concern is, how does that play out here over the next several months in terms of people's ability to Be in the car market Dilemma percent unemployment is is not a good thing. And so there's GonNa be people that are are not going to be in the car market just due to the fact that their their financial situation's unstable. He in the Brad macaroni McCreevy's with Rochester Auto Dealers Association how many people do you think work in? You know at dealerships across our area please Sir. Well, I'll give you a number facility Rochester Auto Dealers Association represents ten counties. We represent monroe the five surrounding counties, and then we go south to the Pennsylvania border. So we're in STU band allegany all the way down to the Pennsylvania border we represent a little over a hundred dealers franchise new car dealers they employ a little over five thousand employees In their dealerships. So that's that's sort of the economics of our group that we work. It's a big workforce. Now on the other side of the deal for for potential purchasers of new or used cars. What would you tell them about these time? Sir. I you know the market is is again on the used car site. It's it's pretty strong right now on the new car side. Again, the inventory levels are are going to be a little bit low for them right now. So if you're looking for a specific make model color content, that sort of thing you may or may not find it in the in the dealerships inventory today but if you're if you're looking for. You know a certain making Milo vehicle and you're willing to be flexible about some of those things. Then than very likely, you will find what you're looking for So. I you know I would say that the market as the auto industry, the interest rates for financing are still very low have been for a number of years. Now, the lenders are still very good in terms of making credit available to customers to purchase a car. So all of the elements of the industry are still pretty pretty good right now and so. I would say somebody if they're interested, everything should be in place for them to go out and. And make a purchase outstanding This the state doesn't have any special special restrictions on auto dealers right now at lingering from the Kovic shutdown or they're they're operating similar to what a lot of businesses are Bob. So right now if a customer were to go to a dealership right now, if they enter the building, they have to be wearing a face mask as do the employees of the dealership when they're interacting with the customer if they want WanNa. Take a test drive in salesman is going to go with them. The salesperson has to sit in the seat furthest away from the driver. So that's GonNa be in the backseat somewhere. WE we try to maintain social distancing within the showrooms and most of the showrooms are pretty large. Areas so that's not a huge problem for them. you know when it comes to doing the paperwork on their transaction they're they're setting up clean rooms you know for the customer to come in and sit down and do it, and when the customer leaves, they clean the room after every visit. Other cars, of course are cleaned they're cleaned with disinfectant wipe down. before and after any customer that gets into the vehicle. So a lot of the things that you you would normally expect to see really in any business right now you bet. Going on. Sir. Just. You know again at the industry I think right now bob is is coming back, it it suffering from some what I'll call some some hangover effect from where we are. It's still You know there are restrictions in place right now that you know but people I think are becoming more and more accustomed to that. So the dealers I would say if you're if you're only interested in in doing the transaction online or through the phone, they can accommodate that if you WANNA go to the store and sit down and talk to somebody they can accommodate that. so they'll they'll accommodate whatever method to customer wants to utilize. Outstanding Mark and Brad mccreavy. Thanks for everything that you in your members, your association doing, and thanks for talking to us today I appreciate it. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. You BETCHA. I have always said that that there are two metrics for ignorant person like me to watch in the economy. small money is restaurant volume and big money is, is our sales If people have small worries financially, they cut back on going to the restaurant If they have large worries financially, they cut back on on buying cars when people feel comfortable with the long-term economy, you have a robust car business when people are feeling good about day to day finances, you a do very well with. Food Service right now, both of those are are hit pretty hard back with you in just a moment on Newsradio wham eleven eighty welcome back friends you can't fix. Stupid. That was the big quote yesterday out of Peter Navarro, he's the White, house trade advisor and he's the guy who put together the seven hundred and sixty five, million dollar loan for Kodak as we went through in some detail yesterday. there are anomalies there were people who bought stock or who got options in a fashion relative to that announcement and the surge, and Kodak Stock Price that were not a legit on the day before Monday July twenty seventh four execs. At Kodak Kodak got significant significant stock. Options. which the next day made them all millionaires during negotiations, a directed the company and the executive. Chair of the board bought some fifty thousand shares while Kodak was negotiating with the government that likewise made them a millionaires and those things I see his his phrase, you can't fix. Stupid. isn't appropriate here. I mean it's one of those things we throw off and it's a great headline thing but stupidity is not the issue here. VENALITY is right. There's a difference between being stupid and being dom an announced not right. There's been being stupid and be an evil and It is stupid is me I didn't know better I'm dumb or I'm not trained for this or. Or I mean stupidity comes into my life and yours every now and again. venality however is a moral condition. It is a moral choice people who chose to break the rules of fair play are not stupid. They are wicked. And that's what took place here. Almost undeniably. Again. Stupid is Oakland made a mistake right and we all do that. Sometimes, we're all ignorant or dumb or just make bad decisions sometimes about certain things. but when You are taking actions that are obviously unfair and you are being financially benefited by them That's because you are a crook and You can't fix venality I. Work with the dumb man I can't work with a crook. We'll be back with you right after todd heavies newscast, which is up next on newsradio wham eleven eighty. Chattanooga analytic business solutions cabs. A twenty twenty Washington Post top workplace is looking for professionals like you in the Greenbelt Maryland area to join its team cabs specializes in engineering it for federal agencies and offers a competitive benefits package and an appreciation for work life balance does this sound like a good fit for you your career their mission, fulfill the mission, and apply for your next career move today visit C. H. E. N. E. G. ABS DOT COM to learn more. Saying. Not the same thing as saying that at the Fisher. The Fisher House I know is a huge part of land recovery for somebody like my husband for them to know that, their family members are being taken care of that's a huge burden off of them. So they can concentrate on their therapies just having that assurance that no matter what as long as we were there for Anson that someone would be there to take care of us. Took so much weight off our shoulders out. Can you help go to fisherhouse Dot Org? Welcome back my friend Welcome back. Andrew Cuomo. Announcing today that he's got a new book American crisis. which will come out about three weeks before the election around the middle of October it is meant to recount how he successfully fought and won the war against a covert and how the federal government under Donald, trump of failed and killed us all. So he's got that coming now it'll be his second book. he wrote a memoir here awhile ago for which he was paid seven, hundred, thirty, eight, thousand dollars which which. For some people, it's big money even in Pittsford at seven, hundred, thirty, eight, thousand dollars he was paid for his memoir. which sold onto only thirty, two, hundred copies. Right. Now. Here's the deal Just by contrast I have written a few different books and they're all short self-published. Meanwhile, they're they're not all self published about half of them have been self published but I, they're they're all crap quite obviously but I have had to books. that I have done that have sold more than thirty, two, hundred copies right the were less than that. But just think about that for a second I. Am an absolute frigging loser idiot Hawking Books in a very small town on the radio, and I have with two separate titles sold more copies of my book than Andrew. CUOMO was able to sell all across New York state and all across the United States right. And again for thirty, two, hundred copies he was paid three quarters of a million dollars. It's hard for me to see that is remuneration. It's far easier for me to see that as a bribe. Of, course, the publishing industry is based in New York City It is supervised by the New York state government and Lo, and behold the publishing industry gave him three quarters of a million dollars for a book that you know. Didn't sell they of course lost money. On that dramatically anyway, we'll leave that alone. I won't talk about something else this Situation. with the murder of a Canary Marshall little three year old boy. We learned I that the alleged murderer Anthony Love was a parolee. One more of these approach lease who seem. Year after year after year to be the perpetrators of the worst and most persistent crime in our midst. Again I, know the fist in the air people are all about how this is an evil system and I. IT prison is bad and punishment is evil and it's all about racism or something like that I'm sure the paint on the street sometime for us so we remember. Anthony Love Parolee. was Mama's boyfriend. and. For Twenty, five years on this show you and I have known that the most dangerous creature walk in the face of the earth when it comes to a little child is Mama's boyfriend. and. Here's the deal for years and years and years you and I have known and said on this broadcast that if a child ends up hurt or burned or beaten or raped or dead, the first place you look is Mama's boyfriend. Mama's boyfriend. There are so many monsters who are brought into the lives of children by their mothers it years ago you and I used to talk about how it there are so many Mama's boyfriend crimes that mother's failure to protect her children from whatever piece of whatever she's brought into the home ought to create for her some criminal liability. You brought this prize home. This is a a savaged, your child or children you are responsible to here's your pear handcuffs is how I've looked at it well. Yesterday we talked about some of the injuries sustained by the Canary Marshall. he had a ruptured spleen he had a a broken pelvis. A broken. Pelvis. Every step you take? Would give you excruciating pain. If you sat down, you would have excruciating pain. If you'd lay down, you'd have excruciating pain. If you turned over in the night, you'd have excruciating pain. Also. You have a lot of stuff inside your the bones of your pelvis. There's a lot of They make what blood cells in and stuff a lot of Merrill whatever Mero does it to hugely important part of your body. he ruptured spleen. Id hit a ruptured spleen. Typically, people will have a ruptured spleen when they are in a car wreck without a seatbelt and they catch steering wheel right in the abdomen with a you know a force. Under the Law of physics, which is almost staggering to comprehend. Kameri Marshall was not in a car wreck he was beaten allegedly by Anthony Love. Now here's the deal in raises issues about the Monroe County child protective. In your remember why folks wanted to get rid of the last county executive because issues at child protective service we had one fellow the supposed Kinda. Shirt tail grandfather of a little girl savagely killed who went on for a couple years by an ad San. We've got a hold the country -secutive responsible. That rule only applies I? Presumed Republican county executives because under the current Democrat County executive it seems that Child Protective Services Was In this home where Anthony Mama's boyfriend was on at least two separate occasions on at least two separate investigations of child abuse. The mother in this home, the Mama of Mama's boyfriend. She had boys who were four and three. By They were half brothers, the father of the four year old boy. contacted child protective services to say that his little fellow had a black eye and that that had come from Anthony Love Parolee and Mama's boyfriend child protective services according to the fatherless boy told him that it had gone into the home and check things out There was a second child protective services visit specifically triggered by injuries sustained by kameri Marshall our a victim in this matter. Monroe. County says because of confidentiality he can't say anything about that. Well I planning like to say my ass. Right I play like to say that woman row county here is doing is covering. It's ass. Right. And if when that poor little girl was murdered in a bad situation, we had a right to know and there was an investigation that told us who went in when and where, and how. Then in this situation where a little boy is killed, we have exactly the same right. And the scrutiny which in the past was against Monroe County's child protective services to tell us how that little girl died needs to be in this situation. I don't know that reporters and town will bring that I. Don't know if there will be that scrutiny. I fear that this is going to be under the rug but the deal and I listen I'm not beating up on the people who work child protective services. I know it is an extraordinarily difficult a job they do right. But again, we spent the last three or four years talking about how the death of a little girl was the result of failed leadership and we needed accountability and explanation, and we need things to be fixed. Well I'm not trying to pay politics here but if that last death was a cause for us to say, we need to have this explained to us we need to find out how we can avoid this happening. Again, this situation is exactly the same. And the demand and the need is exactly the same. The Adam Bellow. Administration had child protective services in this home twice. Right And the Democrats D- Dean ofo over this. And if they were doing anything other than just playing politics, the need likewise to demand that there be disclosure investigation of this matter here. Right. Because The People, society you and me. We funded a child protective services program whoever is supposed to tell them I think there's a problem did their part. Because for both boys child protective services went in they were there at least twice that we know about. Monroe County has an obligation to explain how many visits when what happened. Right, that's what this calls for, and that's not some political vendetta. That's not some political payback. Dad is the standard which Democrats themselves have set and now that they hold power and this heartbreaking act of evil has been committed on their watch. then. There needs to be that same standard of scrutiny and there needs to be that same commitment to fixing what obviously is broken. Right So that's my thought on that to two to eleven eighty the number Remind me something about the Monroe County jail I wanNA. Talk about in just a second after this break on newsradio Ham eleven eighty. One of the one of the issues with child protective service also is. People file. A Lot. Of False. It's a tool that people used against each other right you say, Oh, child protective and the deal is you have X. number of people and you have an awful lot of work the amount of violence against children, and again in our region, it's focused largely in the city of Rochester it exists all across the region, but in terms of numbers and concentration, that's where it is unfortunately. Time, and resources are used allot wasted a lot by people who make false accusations and sorting those out is hard hard and if you're the CPS agent, you know it's not just difficult from a professional standpoint. Also, it's emotional because you know you say all of this is a false accusation in the back of your mind you're saying, yeah. But what if I'm wrong in that kids really being abused right it's a very difficult seat to sit in admire the people who sit there. I'm watching the news early this morning and I'm grateful to the TV stations who put out the news every night i. I enjoy it. I you know I'm benefited by thanks for what you do but one of the it wasn't a story about the sheriff's Office. Per Se but just for half a moment they had a little bit of video from outside the Monroe County jail here in downtown Rochester yesterday. Am I could see the flag there in front of the jail and I saw that the flag was flying at Half Staff And if I could politely Todd Baxter who is a friend of this community admired of by by most A. Very good person whose life has been one of service Rochester Police Department Greece Police Department sheriff of Monroe County. A full career in the united. States army reserve retiring a as a as a as a Master Sergeant. it. His son currently an outstanding ROTC Cadet Army style over at Syracuse University But the flag outside Todd Baxter's jail is at half staff. And I would politely say Sheriff. that represents your governor, but it does not represent you and so you've got to decide is that your sheriff's Department or is it his? And do you. Like some others around here, stand hat in hand fearful of the shadow of the governor or you have the spine to walk out and raised that flag to the top of that staff and let it fly where it belongs. It's a simple straightforward thing. It's a little bit of a gut check right raise your flag sheriff, raise your flag. It's time for news great tide. How will give that to us? We'll be back when he's done on Newsradio wham eleven eighty.

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Why Cuomo Wont Resign

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30:00 min | Last month

Why Cuomo Wont Resign

"This episode is sponsored by charles. Schwab need help. Managing the complexity of income needs in retirement. Meech wab intelligent income a simple modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. Tell them how much you need. And how long you need it to last bill estimate how much you can spend plus you can start stop or adjust payments anytime without penalty and with schwab intelligent portfolios. You won't pay an advisory fee visit schwab dot com slash intelligent income to learn more about their modern approach to wealth management. Okay so jimmy. It hasn't even been a month. And i feel like the stories changed. Yeah it seems like the situation. Here is changing not just day by day that the hour by hour the last time i spoke with the wall. Street journal's jimmy o. Kind we were talking about a nursing home scandal. That was threatening to bend new york governor. Andrew cuomo third term in office new york governor. Andrew cuomo is denying that the number of corona virus deaths connected to nursing. Homes has been vastly underreported. Are the governor denies that he or his staff did anything wrong here but some who have lost loved ones they disagreed and behind this scandal. Where allegations of a toxic culture in new york state capital critics say years of bullying by the governor and his staff coming home to roost. This has federal prosecutors and the f. b. i. now looking to see if the cuomo administration's apparent refusal for months to release accurate nursing home death data amounts to a crime but in the last few weeks the scandal has kept growing and now the focus on accusations of sexual harassment. New at six o'clock a former agent governor cuomo accuses him of years of sexual harassment lindsay. Boylan worked for the cuomo administer. A third woman now accused new york governor andrew cuomo of harassment adding to the allegations against new york governor andrew cuomo a seventh woman now coming forward accusing him of inappropriate behavior. The governor continuing to say he will not step down what is march usually like in albany. My i mean as a new yorker its yearly. Pretty busy in march right. It's sorta the high season of lobbying debate around the new york state budget. Which is due on march thirty one and to an extent. That's that's still happening. But i imagine it looks pretty different this year. It's just kind of basically a subplot or a side plot to the much larger questions about what's going to happen to governor andrew. Cuomo what is going to happen to governor andrew. Cuomo many of his colleagues seemed to hope. He'll just go away this morning. Almost all of the states democratic congress people are calling on cuomo to go along with its two. Us senators majority leader chuck schumer and cure cyncial brand unfortunately because of the numerous credible allegations The governor has lost the ability to work with his other governing partners and has lost the support of the state which is why. I thought he should resign now. Of course it's not after them them whether governor cuomo resigns or not it's up to governor cuomo not to but certainly you've known governor cuomo along time do you think there's any chance he would resign. I've talked to people who are close to the governor and who are familiar with his thinking and this weekend one of them told me no. He's not resigning. He's not stepping down this week. Not today not tomorrow. Not next week. People who've worked with him say he will be defiant sort of the reverse churchill. Why fight on the beaches. You will fight in the cities you'll never go up. You'll never surrender. He's not rolling over today on the show. If governor cuomo doesn't rollover over his democratic colleagues give him a push an update on the scandal in albany. I'm mary harris. You're listening to what next stick with us. This episode is brought to you by progressive. Saving money on your car. Insurance is easy with progressive. It's an average savings of over seven hundred fifty dollars for customers who switch and save in fact. Customers can qualify for an average of six discounts on their auto policy with progressive including discounts. Just for starting a quote online or having multiple vehicles on their policy get your quarter online progressive dot. And see how much you could be. Saving national annual average auto insurance savings by new customers surveyed in two thousand nineteen potential. Savings will vary discount very are not available in all states and situations. I gotta say. I personally never seen so many scandals of such a wide variety fall on one politician at one time like the last time we spoke. It was you know. Komo's being accused of ju- king the covid nursing home death statistics and then that scandal was already kind of beginning to evolve into a scandal over workplace bullying and then a week or two later became a crisis about sexual harassment. How many women have accused cuomo of sexual harassment at this point well. It's three former members of his staff and one woman whose name the wall street journal is withholding who's a current member of his staff who have have claimed that the governor behaved inappropriately toward them or sexually harassed them And there are other women who have come forward and described interactions with the governor. That were inappropriate. Or that made them uncomfortable in social settings in some ways but they are not necessarily employees or we're not employed by governor cuomo at the time of those interactions. So it depending on how you you cal. I think that there are many as as seven people who've come forward with specific complaints in more who have just sort of acknowledged this pattern of behavior. Yeah i wanna linger a bit on the accusations because what stands to me looking at all the different accusations and there there's just a wide variety of them is that they're consistent in the kinds of things that are alleging most of the time like the governor touched me on the small of my back. The governor made me feel small as a woman and it's all kinds of people from journalists. Who worked around the governor to people who worked more in his inner circle. And so i think what stands out when you see the number is just the make sense together in a certain way. I wonder if that stood out to you as well. well clearly. there is a pattern here. in clearly. In some instances the governor in his aides are not denying what people like a thirty five year. Old woman who who worked on the governor's executive chamber from twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen described to me in an interview earlier this month and she she described Sitting at her desk in having the governor asked questions about her personal life including whether she had a boyfriend she said that at one point when she rose from her desk he he kissed her hand she described an encounter at a function at the state executive mansion in which the governor walked up said. Hi sweetheart or or something like that Kissed both of her cheeks turned and put his hand around her waist than and posed for a picture with her something in an older generation. Might i don't know come off as gentlemanly in the current environment. Not so much on a list told me. Was that taken together. All of these behaviors made her feel reduced from a working professional to in her words. Quote just a skirt and and albany is now having a debate that i think many workplaces And many people have had particularly since the revelations about harvey weinstein in two thousand seventeen about what acceptable workplace behavior is and where there are instances of smaller acts That that make people uncomfortable. What response and what mechanisms and how much of a big deal are they And that's a debate that is playing out publicly in the new york state legislature as state lawmakers consider whether or not to take any kind of further action or sanctions against governor cuomo. And you can sort of see how this debate is churning forward and different folks are weighing in with how they feel about it just just looking at the way. The accusations have played out like the first avocation was from a woman named lindsay boylan. Who's running for manhattan. Borough president and i remember reading it. She she wrote an essay in medium and thinking. Wow this is so specific. Her allegations begin with the governor. Allegedly saying to her. Let's play strip poker. And i thought whoa this is a bomb but at the same time it took a while for people to pay attention and i think they really only started clicking into these allegations when more and more of them came out what analysts told me was that that she was sort of moved to speak up and tell her story when she saw other women doing so she was. I think the third former aide to the governor to describe an experience about her work in the executive chamber is since since the the the sort of metaphorical damn has been breached It's been easier as a reporter to hear about these kinds of things from people who have worked in with and around the governor. I will note that governor cuomo has said that lindsay boylans statement about strip poker is untrue but the governor has apologized if any of his workplace behavior made people uncomfortable. Yeah the governor's kind of had this evolution in his response. Because when that first accusation came out it was really just denied. Deny deny there is a press release. That went out with staffers. Signing onto it saying listen we were on flights with the governor and lindsay. boylan where. She's alleging something occurred and we didn't see anything and here. The flight manifests so aggressive pushback and then as more and more allegations surfaced you on early march. The governor had a press conference where he apologized. I now understand that. I acted in a way that made people feel uncomfortable. It was unintentional. And i truly in deeply apologize for i feel awful about it and frankly i am embarrassed by it and then he seemed to take a turn were more recently. He's been saying you know. I think the voters know the difference between a real allegation and cancelled culture. Let the review proceed. I'm not going to resign. I was not elected by the politicians. I was elected by the people and even went so far as to say you know. I'm not part of the political club. Which is a weird thing to say when your father was governor of new york and you are now governor of new york. Can you talk a little bit about the governor's evolution here. What his response has shifted as the world around him has shifted. It became clear that i on the one hand. He's responding to accusations that were made and are floating in the public sphere But then it became a question of those accusations. Prompting a political response that he needed to address And the political response being this impeachment investigation and calls for his resignation from elected officials and with respect to those latter two things. He has been defiant. He has pushed hard. He has said that lawmakers calling for his resignation or motivated by politics. He has said that he will not resign because of accusations. Mere allegations And and as you pointed out mary he did reference cancel culture and he said he's. He's not part of the political club. Inter cuomo has been working on political campaigns. Since i was born he is the political club park or has been. It was a statement that struck many people I will say he's doing all of this at the same time that he is also expressing some level of contrition over how he behaved toward His accusers and how he is office culture and demeanor Comported himself and it's it is a dissimilar approach and it's an approach that i know from my reporting has moved people to come forward and react. Uh there is a fourth woman who's not been named publicly who said that. The governor touched her inappropriately during an encounter at the state executive mansion in two thousand and twenty in my reporting reveals that this woman who currently works on the governor's staff watched his apology press conference on march third and became upset by it and that her story came to light to her colleagues when they saw her get upset in her office. Watching the governor. Speak about this so at this. Point governor cuomo's responses to the accusations against him are in some instances prompting more people to come forward. The reporting is that the governor put his hand under her blouse. Right does with the albany. Times union has reported. Yes and that to me that allegation. It's a step beyond some of the allegations that came out beforehand about you know language in the workplace and feelings that women had that they were being demeaned yes. A many lawmakers have have said exactly that in that. They said that they did consider it to be a a step beyond. I don't think it's an accident that that fourth allegation when it was first publicized by the albany times union. that's when you heard democrats who control the state assembly. Say they were launching an impeachment investigation. And it's after that fourth allegation that you heard top leaders in washington including chuck schumer kirsten gillibrand and members of the state's congressional delegation democratic members. Say that governor. Cuomo needed to step aside you had to ask. You've had your own run ins with governor cuomo where he's sort of knock year round publicly at press conferences not physically but verbally and it just made me wonder is the kind of behavior you're hearing about now behavior that you and other reporters have known about for a long time. I think it's been clear. That governor cuomo drove his staff to work very very long hours. It's been known and clear and reported that he raises his voice at times. I will say diplomatically but as the sexual harassment new. Because i know that at least one reporter who was a reporter for politico talked about a similar instance. Christmas party where the governor touch turn away. That made her feel uncomfortable and she even joked with other reporters about it afterwards so it seems like even that was known earlier and it just made me wonder like why wasn't it reported on until now what what's in reporting what's happening now is people are willing to speak with bill and depth about the effects on them of this behavior and while there were there was some knowledge Be it specific knowledge or general knowledge about some of these behaviors. I think what's happening now. Is that people are describing the effects in a way that is re contextualising these behaviors for the public and sort of fueling the moment that we're now in when we come back the reasons. The governor is staying office for now. Spotify ground launch a new. Podcast renegades born in the usa president barack obama and bruce springsteen sit down to discuss the country. That's giving them both so much. 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They need like the lenovo book plus with dual screen to help you refocus faster get more time on your side with the right technology you can take on interruptions like a boss be more productive and feel good about what you've chief and work through in just one day learn more at lenovo dot com slash. Get time on your side. So governor cuomo. He seems to be in the fight for political life. But he's making this point. That i think is really relevant. Which is that. There's a difference between losing the confidence of politicians around you and losing the confidence of your constituents. There's this poll that came out on monday. Finding that the governor's favorability rating had gone down but only thirty five percent of new york. Voters said he should resign. So i wonder looking at that whether you think folks who want to see movement here who wants to move forward with impeachment who want to. Who are asking the governor to resign whether those that kind of information is really going to prevent those efforts for moving forward. That poll was seen by the governor's allies as not terrible news and in particular it showed that sixty nine percent of black voters. Surveyed did not feel that the governor should resign and he keeps appearing with Black and latino clergy At events usually to talk about the coronavirus into talk about corona virus. Vaccinations but the subtext political observers in state lawmakers say is quite clear. He's showing that. He has support in this community Which is of course are critical constituency in the state but also in democratic politics in state. So i think what it's going to do is it's going to give andrew cuomo fuel to continue his fight and to keep pushing and we have to wait and see exactly where that's going to lead. Yeah and they're multiple layers to what's going on right now like the attorney. General is investigating the harassment allegations and the state legislature could act. But i think there's been some back and forth about whether there's foot-dragging here whether some members especially the democratic caucus want to surge ahead and move forward quickly with impeachment and others don't can you explain what's going on. Yeah the democrats who control the state. Assembly are divided about this issue. I the just to to go into math. There are one hundred fifty members of the assembly there hundred and seven members of the democratic conference and of them. We know that forty signed a letter calling for governor cuomo to resign twenty. One member is signed a letter saying attorney. General james is investigation should be allowed to continue. Eight of them are on record saying that governor cuomo and saying that they support his impeachment and so assembly speaker. Carl hasty has to manage all of these constituencies. And he's put forward what will have described as a middle ground in which he is having this impeachment inquiry. It's gathering fact. As of wednesday saint patrick's day the assembly announced that had hired a manhattan law firm davis polk to lead its investigation. And it's unclear. How long investigation will take or what will be yielded at the end so in one way or the assembly is marching toward impeachment. But there are questions as to how fast it is marching and whether it is marching fast enough. Yeah i mean. I've heard a lot of talk about how it's happening in. New york is revealing these kind of faultlines in the metoo movement. Some people look at. What's alleged about governor cuomo and say well. I don't know if that's something that someone should leave a job for and other people see something really different. But i wondered too if in new york. It's really revealing the fault lines and the democratic party. You know for years governor cuomo fought off a kind of progressive surge and really kept the legislature under his control and he he lost that battle and now he's dealing with a legislature where there are a lot of progressives but they're not in charge of the democrats entirely and so wh- what you're seeing is a little back and forth as the democrats figure out where they stand here. That's very st mary. There definitely seems to be overlap between these progressive lawmakers who are first of all newer to arrive in albany and generally speaking younger people And they seem to have a different perspective on these allegations than people who are older who are were elected with more support from the party establishment And who are generally more willing to give the governor a little bit of breathing room. This is a question. This question between the the progresses in the institutionalists and you can call it however you want. The democratic party has been playing out In elections for well you could trace it back to nineteen sixty eight. but of course did the contemporary the contemporary spats our between people like bernie sanders and joe biden and governor. Cuomo is very clearly in that joe biden wing of the democratic party and an end of the democratic constituency. Here in new york What we saw were the progressive wing of the party make serious legislative gains in the twenty sixteen and particularly in the two thousand eighteen election's and again this past year in in the twenty twenty elections. What we haven't seen is on abroad. Statewide basis progressive challengers to governor cuomo and his lieutenant governor kathy hokuto. We haven't seen success on that scale and on that level so to the extent that this is a question about impeachment which is driven by lawmakers each responsible to a smaller subset of individual constituents to predict what's going to happen and exactly what response there will be. It's funny you talk about how cuomo is is of the biden wing of the party and i totally agree with you but it was interesting to me to watch joe biden this week be asked about governor cuomo and have him say yeah i think he should resign and he'll probably be prosecuted if these allegations are found to be true by independent reporting. It made me wonder a little bit about the democrats in new york. And whether they're kind of painted into a corner here where enough of them have come forward and said komo's should resign. cuomo should be impeached. That the relationship with the governor is now pretty broken and you know there's that line from the wire when you come at the king you best not miss like you once you've gone this far. It's really hard to real things back in. Like if you don't move forward and get him out of office then you have a pretty bitter guy the you're having to work with and the executive suite that's exactly right and as to go back to march in albany is normally about the budget. It's normally about decisions that will impact taxation an impact. How many teachers local schools can have That impact what kind of healthcare is available to people who don't have the means to pay for it themselves and it's going to be an uncharted dynamic to see how leaders of the legislature will work or not work with the governor to make those decisions make those important governmental decisions but lawmakers with whom. I've spoken say that there are continued challenges in working on real policy with governor cuomo given the situation that he's in some of the people who have called for the governor's resignation have explicitly. It's not a question of the allegations and whether or not it's believed that the allegations are true or not true but simply that at this point they feel governor cuomo is just too distracted to govern and at the end of the day that seems to be an argument whether or not he can just do the job that he was elected to do That that strikes me as very salient and is something that more and more people even those who don't want to necessarily say they'll support impeachment or even call. For the governor's resignation are repeating kind of so much for your time. Thanks very pleasant feedback. Jimmy kind covers new york state politics for the wall street journal and that is the show. What next is produced by carmel. Shod mary wilson. Daniel hewitt davis land and elena schwartz. 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Governor Cuomo Outlines Plans For Gym's To Reopen

Bob Lonsberry

29:07 min | 8 months ago

Governor Cuomo Outlines Plans For Gym's To Reopen

"External tallest not the same thing I've seen at at the Fisher House the Fisher House I know is a huge part of recovery for somebody like my husband for them to know that their family members are being taken care of that's a huge burden off of them so they can concentrate on their therapies. Just. Having that assurance that no matter what as long as we were there for Anson. would be there to take care of us. It took so much offer shoulders. How can you help go to fisherhouse dot org partly sunny and seventy I'm todd holiday newsradio Wamil of eighty next news at eleven thirty breaking news when it happens anytime another hour with Bob Laws Bury starts now on newsradio eliminate. Thanks. Appreciate that good morning my friend. Thank you so much for tuning in. It's a flat out beautiful day for Radio Program. We have this sad story early, this am on the throughway. There were four young men out of New York City. They had taken a trip up to Niagara. Falls I don't know if it was to see the falls or visit friends or work or who knows what but you know you're in yearly twenties you've got a day or two your New York City somebody says you WanNa go say Niagara Falls Man I'm in. Let's go in per chance that was the case with these young gentlemen. They were driving. A back toward home about one thirty This morning they had past the candidates exit a next up, of course, would-be Palmira and Then, they were out of the blue struck head on by a vehicle in that car with four young men the driver was killed and a passenger from the backseat also lost his life Two others were taken to strong where now they are fighting for their lives. The vehicle that struck them was driven by an eighty one year old man. who had been reported missing out of Ohio. What's the story there This is a person who's wandering and whether we call had dementia or whatever we call it this is a person who's not all there. And the deal is that he goes to the Clifton Springs rest stop and does whatever he does, and then exiting the rest stop instead, of course, proceeding eastbound back on to the throughway. He a gets off on the on ramp. He leaves the rest area via the entrance, and of course, is then going the wrong way on interstate ninety the throughway that superhighway. He travels that way for some eight minutes and we don't know, but it's often the case in such circumstances that somebody sees it somebody calls nine, one one and the trooper's head that way like a bat out of hell. The. If that was the case, they did not get there in time and the eighty one year old man is dead. And, the two young men are dead and two others are are dramatically injured. Passersby came immediately to the scene and a pulled one person from the wreckage and began performing there on the side of the Road Cpr. God bless those folks as they Ah, saw to render aid. here's the deal. Why was that man's presence on the throughway? Not. As a guy going the wrong direction, I presume that that was reported and I presume maybe the the troup or troop t whoever it is, it's on their people will tell us about it but. You know that they're building these scanner things on the throughway, right? You know the to get on interstate ninety. You have to come one way or another through a a a toll booth, right? And we have had license plate reader technology fielded for more than a decade. it did the guy use Ez pass when he got on the New York State. thruway. is there a license plate reader when you get on the through way? I mean I haven't lately, but you know I in years past most police, cars have add license plate readers on them. There've been license plate readers mounted permanently variety of locations back when malls were thing, the parking lots always had license plate readers as you went in or out of there. just my thought is that if this eighty one year old man is missing out of Ohio. Then it would seem that the license plate associated with him could be fed into some license. Plate reader system and there could be some silent alert that exists. So that technology is looking for him in addition to living. Law. Enforcement. People. This man was on a controlled access highway no doubt encountered. Some sort of electric technology as he you know who knows how long he was on whatever roads in Ohio and in a Pennsylvania and then when he gets on the throughway again, that's a limited access highway which is digitally monitored and you know as they're putting up these big things on the way to do whatever in their surveillance of us. Is it not possible to also use these surveillance technologies not just to spy on us or to extract from us our tolls but maybe find cars that for whatever reason we need to find. What if it was a kidnapping or something like that or in this situation again, a man who has roamed and presumably has some difficulty a function. So I would just politely say you know this is where I do. We not have that technology turned on do the licensed play readers not? Is there not some central database where you know there's the bow thing beyond the lookout for you know this vehicle that vehicle the other vehicle. if not, why? Not? There of course, license plate readers systems out there that constantly surveilled by computers looking for vehicles that are supposed to be repossessed right and if we can do that and at the I fine that's great technology on do that but we can do that and we do that every day. Then why was it again? How many miles from What's that first place over there? I don't know Westfield or whatever. But how many miles had this man spent on the? New. York state true way. Right he had gotten on in Pennsylvania presumably had come up to buffalo pay toll gotten off. Got On the toll free portion gone through another Poe tollbooth pickup a ticket driven all the way from buffalo to Rochester and beyond Canandaigua a headed towards the Palmira Manchester exit when this ultimately happens. Right. That's is that two hours that he was on New York's superhighway at least. and. None of that technology made any connection. Issued any alert. And the system isn't smart enough to have anticipated something like that. You and I a couple of Gomer sitting here, just shooting the breeze amount, we're able to think of applications for technology that the people in law enforcement and highway who put it up didn't. Doesn't seem likely so there's more to be told about this and there's more to be learned from this back with you in just a moment on newsradio Hamill of eighty. Welcome back from the gym reopened stuff. Is again Cuomo says shearing, visit your relatives, the nursing home, but really you can't Cuomo says, yeah. Restaurants can reopen but not so that they can be profitable. Cuomo says, Yeah Jim's can open but really many of them can't. First of all, I don't think very many of them are going to have this merv thirteen filtration system available and retrofitting putting one on could literally be depending upon the size of the building tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars which they don't have right. Wearing a mask all the time is a very difficult thing. In a situation of with some wireless stations had some like cardiologists and is now let me say if we're talking about you know your valve prolapse or something like that. Then put your cardiologists on if we're talking about communicable disease then God. Bless him a cardiologist is you know so you know It's you are not an expert on this. Sir But anyway, he puts on his mask and says, I run up and down the stairs every day. Okay. Well, when you say run, what do you mean run and I I'm sure you're just G I joe heart surgeon but launch you come out here getting new bells spin class and see how you do with your mask on. All right might get you off in buffet. So the mask is for any sort of aerobic activity going to be an extreme least significant burden. Also There can be no water fountains in the gyms. which you know I be honest with ya the water. Fountain is simply go the gym Also, your mask has to be a real mask. It cannot be aband-. Danna it cannot be a buff it cannot be a gator the the move against bucks and gators is well underway. So you can't use those and a deal is that like there are running gators, there are cross country skiing gators. There are things that are designed for you to breathe through while engaging in robot activity and none of those Can You US also at the gyms there can be no communal showers. Right and if there are individual showers than each one must be fully disinfected between patrons. And the showers just like the rest of the Jim can never operate it more than thirty three percent of capacity. So again. You have capped it at a capacity level which us. Than the break even point just as they've done with restaurants. further you have put so many burdens on. This environment of exercising that it becomes unlikely and again that merv thirteen or filter filtration deal if you have a system that will accept it, then you can go down this path. If you don't, you are dead in the water and there's no way you can reopen. and. So and movie theaters he says, nope new. Record. Movie theaters. Why not? And also, what is the process for reopening? When do we re open? We've gone through this phase system. We have successfully completed every benchmark that you set ill dish. And yet here we are still jammed up and the deal is that the economic slaughter being wrought by the son of a pup is still going on. Right while he's writing a book and profiting from it the at restaurants. The businesses of so many types, the gyms most assuredly. Going to be disappearing, this is a man. Heat is expected by the end of this year fully one third of all the small businesses in New York will be gone. By the end of six months, fully two thirds of all the restaurants in New York are expected to be gone. Right. And these strangling restrictions continue for example, how long have we been at phase four on restaurants capped at fifty percent capacity. Right when when does that get lifted? When can more people sit down there? That will do two things it will allow more people to sit and more people to pay and allow for that restaurant to get closer to being able to cover I. It's expenses. and. Also, as you lift it one more level of occupancy, you'll be re assuring the public confidence. Here's the deal. This thing astoundingly is breaking down like so much else on on the issue of of of of of politics. And you have if you look social media, the progressives who are almost self righteously talking about avoiding restaurants and bars and these microbreweries and everything else like that. Right and it's almost like contributing to the death of some business is the latest virtue signaling and is don't get anyway the gyms are that's. Mine will be able to open. I hope that mine will be able to to open I wanted a tour of a downtown building yesterday for a commercial project that may be underway and the developer was there and he said this any. What had been a cafeteria, they're gonNA make into a a a personal Jim. and to be honest with you, my mind was, okay. How can I create some? What can you use me for for a few minutes each day so I can qualify as a worker in this building. So you can let me use that Jim and get away from this frigging insanity. It's it's just not right but bub-bubba, and here's another thing to. Say this Andy yesterday said that he now is preparing for additional restrictions. He'll need to impose in the fall as the flu season comes on. So He's also now the flus are, but let's say this it is quite possible that cove it could come back October November through the winner other types of viruses like this have done that, and so this virus could, and as I said at the beginning of the summer, one thing you can do now to help prepare yourself for that is to begin to get fit and to lose some weight Obesity has ban the largest. a precondition that has led to difficulties with this. If you can lose just a little bit that can help here's the deal you start exercising in as little as two weeks. You can have significant improvement to your core fitness and health, and if you were to start that now, just a little bit of walking or whatever you're going to do some push ups jumping jacks that could help you stronger just in case, the Cova comes through in the fall and you'd be better able to endure it. Should you become infected? We've got Alexa Olson's newscast next on newsradio wham eleven eighty. Hey. Logging that tank, we deliver propane straight to you extend your aunties went through. That's propane taxi propane tax dot. com, let's cook in this weekend. Really is your plan then make it easy on yourself go to propane taxi dot com enter Promo Code bbq. Ten for ten dollars, I, Barbecue tank exchange delivered to your door. It's that easy with propane taxing. So you can focus on family friends and fun. Tallest not the same thing I say not at the Fisher House the Fisher House I know is a huge part of country for somebody like my husband for them to know that their family members are being taken care of that's a huge burden off of them so they can concentrate on their therapies. Just having that assurance that no matter what as long as we were there, for Anson, that someone would be there to take care of us. Took so much weight off our shoulders. How can you help go to fisherhouse DOT ORG Welcome back friends welcome back real quick This has been posted by. Monroe County Health, department gym, and fitness centers who are interested in reopening should contact sat and it gives the number to begin the process of arranging an inspection. Guidance for opening can be found at and it's got the link to Cuomo site to begin the process of arranging an inspection. That really ought to be how about tomorrow at four. Right what's beginning the process of arranging inspection also, hey, if you if you're interested in reopening what what there are those that aren't interested in reopening who just given it up and you're not to contrast, but in Onondaga County in Onondaga County, the county government has a list of gyms worked with them on his opening suggestions to make to the governor and reached out to the gyms to schedule this stuff you know what I'm saying. It's so I don't know if you can move your jim down in Dhaka county things might work just a little bit They had a different approach to covert over That way John, glad, you called Sir Welcome to Newsradio Damn eleven eighty. Good afternoon, Bob It's always nice to hear voice. Thank you. I'm honored. About Brion is at the reenactor. I know they'll lieutenant governor the Susan B Anthony Reenactor with channeling the refuses all of the partners is wild said she didn't need to be pardoned. I think was that going on down The town that I hear that wrong I the Lieutenant Governor Kathy Hokkaido's saying she's the highest in a off female officeholder New York I don't believe she is I think they'll be Senator Gillibrand, who is a constitutional officer she's a member of the United States Senate? That would be the ranking female but also would, who is the chief justice the State of New York right now Anyway, that's a tangent but I if I were I I, you know here's the thing. I. Predicted that trump would pardon Susan B. Anthony About fifteen minutes earlier. But I thought that he do that if I were on the White House staff though I would have suggested to him not to do so. because. the Kathy hoc although she naturally got snoddy and turned it all partisan. She did sort of expressed the principle that is correct in this matter, which is a pardon is for people who have done wrong and Susan B. Anthonys position was that she had done nothing wrong and in truth of course she had done nothing wrong and again I believe that Susan B.. Anthony repeatedly did say I have nothing be forgiven for and I presume that would include pardon. So it may be was a nice gesture and I'm glad that the president in the White House is acknowledging you know the the Santan area of the nineteenth amendment but a again just The. Personality of Susan B. Anthony She did not WanNa be forgiven as she felt she had done nothing wrong and I think that her assessment of was correct Roseanne thanks for calling. Thanks for holding on man you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. The are evil legal maniac power hungry. Governor calls. Opinion that he's keeping these physicists closed on purpose which I can't believe what is true. If they're all GONNA lose their businesses anyway. Then why don't we all just open up? There's more of us than there is a them what are they gonNA do? How are they gonNA shut everybody down if we all just open everything. I agree with you. I mean I don't know why why. Why is everyone so afraid? If we can. Get. Because here's why the only way it works is if everybody stands up. If it's one or two were tanner fifty or a hundred. He will mow them down. You know he will pull your liquor license he will find you he will audit your taxes he will send the town or the village to take away your C of o he will send the county to screw with you The only way it works is if it's everybody and the problem is some of the people, support him, and some of the other people article cowardly. Him How can anyone support him? The Da? Rather, communism I. Didn't watch the Convention last night but I did see some of it on Fox News today. They all got up there bash trump. They can get to say whatever they want to say none of they just true. And nobody does anything about it. Well I'm okay. Living like that I. I I wanNA free speech country even for Democrats at their big party. Here's a thing. some people are going to be taken in and some people aren't going to be taken in, and that's just the way it is and I. You know like I think that some of the stuff that Mrs Obama said was wildly manipulative and fundamentally dishonest. and people are either going to see through that and go. She's playing US right now or they're going to say I believe and I'm all on our all in. But I think that their reaction would have would be the same. No matter what. I think if you were of a mind to be persuaded your persuaded but here's the thing next week Republicans will be. Saying narrow thing and Democrats be in the same feeling the same way how `bout were just in a big country where we can say whatever we want right and this team will say what it wants and the other team will say what it wants and we'll all be happy that we're all free to say what we feel Daniel Welcome. You're on newsradio eleven eighty. Hey. I was just curious why the governor was so thankful for the layers and the ship and the. JAVITS center being converted but yet. Now he's just stabbing trump in the back. When he failed to use those to put people there instead of sending them to the nursing home if he had, you've touched on something hugely important if he had used the javits center for a a nursing home people if he had. The ship for Nursing Home People the nursing home problem in large part in large measure does not occur real quick I want to say something about the tabling last night by the candidate what town board of the renaming of squaw island which is soon to be gone I mean it has just in the course of the years I've been around it used to be someplace you'd. you can canoe over there. Walk around a picnic people used to do that. Now it's like nothing it's mostly like where birds go take crap and that's just the nature of erosion or whatever it is it it has been called squall island four more is something in in excessive two, hundred and fifty years It has history where that name came from I to be honest with you I'm not horribly bothered by the the name 's Coie I know that it is bothersome to to some and I do know that the customer is to rename everything that's called Squawk I know that there've been efforts every few years to rename squall island i. note the none of them have been successful I would suggest if the name is offensive that instead the name be The island be named for a General Sullivan. Whose campaign up into this country here was and I think was the way he had troops who went to Canada Gua. That was important to the American Revolutionary War you know I think the you know folks who are bothered by squad island would be bothered by naming it for general. Sullivan. But you know as an American general, the largest campaign of the American revolution it was huge in crucial at the time and it was a successful operation and so you know if we are to abandon this name of two hundred plus years now, let's use it as a memorial to the men who fought in our area to secure for us independence from England and the. The freedoms we enjoy today. So rename it General Sullivan Island, if you will or wait another ten years, it'll all be washed away listeners on the loses next two to to eleven eighty the number for that you get fifteen seconds and fifty thousand watts. Say whatever you want. Right whatever you want and you'll have entree here on newsradio am eleven eighty now listeners on the loose with bomb Lansbury on newsradio WAM. Eighty allow you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. People say what can I do to make a difference in voltage? Here's what I'm GONNA do next month when the school taxes come out I'm not paying them holding them up for one year. Not. Paying them for one year every year going to be behind one year. That's what it can do to make a difference righty. Hello, you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. You know I was listening to Michelle Obama last night just out of curiosity. But I I had a shot off when she started the scratch or testicles. Think. That's polite at all. It's pretty rude and crude I disagreed with her throughout but. Again my takeaway was, why is she not the candidate when a person speaking for your party is far more you seemingly capable and mentally present than your candidate than you screwed up your candidate selection process. Hello, you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Yeah I. Think I'M GONNA buy indies book. Just in case, I run out of toilet paper. Again, I got a backup plan. Here's the deal. Sharman is going to publish that in two ply. So I think that'll be very useful for you. Hello, you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Say Ted. Halliday. Asked me to go skinny dipping that'd be in the water sashes and you know what? Thanks to present. You'll be waiting there for him in the creek. Hello, you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. What's my name? Joe Biden got there you go. See a little bit of political commentary there. Hello you're on Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Bob I'm very confused about some maybe can how be out. The Jamaican father and native. mother have an African American child. many people from Jamaica are black and of African. Heritage. Though it'd be the answer. A Colin Powell was of Jamaican heritage in quite obviously, he was African American. Hello, you're on newsradio lamb eleven eighty. Yeah LE-. We got some wonderful berries from the tree for when you come home time you bet. Berries don't grow on trees mulberries do here's thing I want to become the ambassador of the Purple Mulberry. Sure. Makes for some multicolored bird crap. 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Full Episode: Friday, August 21, 2020

Perspective

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Full Episode: Friday, August 21, 2020

"From ABC News, this is perspective this week stories and why they matter I'm Sherry Preston. Coming up the twenty twenty Democratic presidential ticket is set. This is our moment to make hope and history rhyme we will act with the same faith in you. That, we ask you to place in us the pandemic Abedin's the start of the semester for college students. If the on campus gatherings don't stop them, there's really not a lot that they can do in that spread is just going to continue to ramp up and millennials say, okay boomers it's time to talk about our future talking to us about freedom but it doesn't feel very free if you can't afford a home for your family to live in new. All ahead on perspective. The first. All virtual political convention in the age of covert is over and the Democratic presidential ticket is set Joe Biden and Kamala? Harris. Heading an online of fair that was completely different than we've seen in the past one thing that was the same. However, it was the culmination on Thursday night when the former Vice President delivered his acceptance speech to the Democratic Party's nominee for president source of great honor and humility. I accept this nomination for president. States of America as for the convention we told you it would be weird that it was we told you it would be different and it was not balloons. No funny outfits. No long drawn out roll call of states that park looked a little bit like the Miss America competition where they introduce themselves but there were appearances from. We're going to see an incredible performance from Jennifer, Hudson, and a world premiere performance from Billy Bush and appearances from those whose voices we all know this can't be another WOULDA COULDA SHOULDA election. This administration has shown it will tear our democracy down. If that's what it takes for them to Harris made history by becoming the first black woman to accept either party's Nomination Vice President I accept your nomination for Vice President of the United States of America. But the week belong to Joe Biden while I'll be a democratic candidate. I will be an American President gave his acceptance speech on Thursday night in his hometown of Wilmington Delaware a great purpose as a nation. To open the doors of opportunity to all Americans to save our democracy. To be a light to the world once again, that's ABC's Alec. Stone was all week. You thought he'd be in Milwaukee the real convention, but the pandemic change that in fact, the pandemic changed everything. Here's Alex you know very well, Sherry, what it was like four years ago just down the road from where I am only about twenty minutes away in Philadelphia. Remember. That crowd tens of thousands of Democrats wearing crazy outfits, lots of red white and blue sequins. So passionate about their beliefs and this year this welcome to our convention across America near Silence here, this is the DNC kind of technically Yancey was in Milwaukee, but really nothing went on their the heart of what happened remotely came out of here in Wilmington. He's Joe Biden's home townie goes back and forth on the train to Washington and back, and for the past week it became Comma Harris home as well. But around town there really hasn't been much sign anything was going on charcoal pit. The local classic restaurant in town customers are getting burgers like they normally would to go. Of course right now people aren't paying much attention to. The DNC here except on Wednesday night when I found a few folks, all locals who came out to catch a glimpse of the Biden's that's when Dr Jill Biden spoke at the high school here she taught at back in the nineties we just wanted to see maybe if we could catch catch a look at them pulling in or something right it's pretty exciting that Local. person. Is. Going to be right in high school, right it's going to happen right here and this high school. Is it a big part of this community? I've had the teenagers next go here, right Most of the teenagers our neighborhood go here and they love it A. Teacher on our street. Jill Biden was her teacher in ninety nine. It was her English teacher. Yeah, she's a fifth grade teacher. Now at elementary school, my daughter's goatee buddy in a corner of the city down by the river. There's a convention center away for most people that was pretty much turned into a TV set a sound stage. That's where the media ended up hanging out outside of the building inside they made us set that very few reporters go inside to see in fact, just one reporter per news outlet it's where Biden and Harris gave their speeches. You'd had blue carpet and state signs on post to make it look like a convention floor. But that's as close as we got to real thing Biden giving a speech in front of a handful of reporters on what was really a sound stage in times challenges. These I believe there's only one way forward as united. American. United America, united in our pursuit of a more perfect union. But then on Thursday night, we did have a moment that actually felt like a convention. Outside in a drive in movie style format a crowd of invited gas right outside of the chase center where Biden was speaking maybe three hundred or so watching Biden gave his speech on a big TV screen and then there were fireworks, celebration, Biden Dr, Jill Bites and Kamla Harris her husband dog came out and watched now despite what little was going on here security was tight outside it almost like a mini convention underway this secret service in charge of Biden security, there were big fences put up all around checkpoint setup policing agents all over the place for two relatively short speeches. We will act boldly and deal with our challenges. Honestly, this is our moment. This is our mission. Now history able to say. That the end of this chapter of American doctors began here tonight and so now, Sherry this whole non convention convention is over and it's time for Republicans to do their version coming from somebody who has covered half a dozen conventions. This year was not even close to normal working mainly out of our hotels and rental cars. No big convention hall he was very different. While the convention was going on President, trump and vice president pence did something unconventional not typically done while the opposing parties convention is underway they campaigned we've secured up. Brought back our manufacturing jobs rebuilt our military. Back Wisconsin again. Here. The president also responded publicly and on twitter to speeches made by Michelle and Barack Obama. The Republican National Convention begins on. Monday. So let's talk about what happened this week and what we can look forward to next week with ABC's Karen Travers she covers the White House force and ABC, News what are your thoughts on on the Virtual Democratic National Convention I think people are going to find it hard to go back to the normal convention Sherry I think one thing that was really interesting. I was hearing from a lot of family and friends who aren't. Totally, submerged in politics who are outside of Washington and New York and one thing they felt was that it was more connected that you know the speakers were speaking to them through the screen through their radio through their phone instead of speaking to tens of thousands of screaming supporters in a big convention hall and I think that was an interesting point because it did feel a little bit more personal I have to say I think the DNC did a great job on the production of it that's really hard to put together. It's hard to put together if you have two years to plan that but given the. Remote Challenges. They had very few hiccups and they had a very tight condense a convention program. They got a lot in a short amount of time and I, think it's going to be interesting to see if those calls to not go back to the old way of doing things. Let's talk a little bit about what the Republicans are planning for next week they were planning on it being one of those big conventions with the people that are all dressed up in those great outfits, the balloons and everything else but they're not gonna do that anymore either how do you scramble to put something like this on President? Trump for most of the shutdown period was still pushing for an in person event. You know he was battling with the governor of North Carolina Democrat to be able to do a convention in. Charlotte. The way he wanted to do it and the governor there said, we can't give you that guarantee that what things will look like in August will match your expectations. So they moved it to Florida remember he was GonNa do in Jacksonville Florida to try and do a big impersonal event and then a couple of weeks ago the President I was in the briefing when he came out and surprised us and announced that. It just wasn't meant to be and they would have to put something together. That is much more small scale and closer to home to next week. This is all going to be taking place around Washington. We'll have the first lady deliver a speech in the Rose Garden Vice President Mike Pence will be heading to fort McHenry in more and the president will be doing his acceptance speech on the South Lawn of the White House, which is very unusual. Sherri you know usually you don't have political events like that. So highly partisan, even though of course, the president has turned many official events into campaign like events. But other than that. We're not sure yet what it's going to look like I think one thing that we saw the Democrats was that it was a lot about the next generation of political leaders and also about Joe Biden, the person I think next week we'll see a lot about donald trump the person and the president to actually had come out and did something that is unusual for president and a vice president to do during the Democratic National Convention and that is actually campaign usually they take the week off and give it to the next person but you know what? It's unconventional end if if nothing else. The president is very unconventional person and I think the president said it well, himself earlier this week when he was asked why he wasn't laying low and he just says I can't afford to because I gotta get coverage of myself. You know he says Joe Biden stays in his basement and the media covers him. Most of the time you do see the other party take a little bit of a break during their rivals convention I actually when I covered the Bush Cheney campaign back in two thousand four, the president took some time off. But Vice President Cheney was campaigning that entire week we did a whole west. Coast swing a battleground states. So it's not completely unusual, but I think right now just it's hard to imagine Donald. Trump, staying silent for a week. Let alone even twenty minutes which on Thursday night while Joe Biden delivering that acceptance speech the president was live tweeting his reactions. He did it all week I mean he he was tweeting he was, and that's what that's what a lot of Americans were doing to. They were live tweeting all of this and that's what that's what Donald Trump does. He knows his supporters are he knows where Americans are as tuning into this and you know it's kind of like it. is like everybody else where when you have a reaction to something, we all go on social media to see how your friends are reacting or way in ourselves. He gets that and it's also just who he is. So Thursday night during Joe Biden's speech the president was tweeting that it was just words from bided. He hasn't done any of the things he's claiming to have done in that acceptance speech You know he also weighed in when President Obama was speaking. It's exactly like you say this is how America reacts to things in the President's kind of like that viewer at home who wants to jump in. ABC's Karen. Travers. Thank you so much. Thanks for all your hard work and we will be listening next week as well for the next big show. Thanks Sherry. Tuesday August eighteenth marked one hundred years since women in this country earned the to vote. It took decades of speeches and marches fighting being ridiculed jailed spat upon and held back at every turn but they want it and that's why this week's nomination of Kamla harassment so much to so many and especially to black women who played a significant role in the suffrage movement that oftentimes gets overlooked. Linda car is the CEO of Higher Heights for America it's an organization that focuses on black women's leadership. They also mobilize black women to not just vote but to run for office and to get elected. We talked in the morning after Harris delivered her acceptance speech touching on the fact that if harasses elected the Senate will lose its only black woman and only the second black woman senator in history. What did you think of this week I? I mean this has been been quite a week with Kamala Harris and everything that's going on the DNC one I'm you know obviously the Democrats kicked off convention season and I feel like I'm actually even though it was virtual, I feel like I was on the ground I'm tired. and. I'm certainly tired from staying up in watching my friends and family just excited about this moment senator Comma Harris when she walked onto that stage in in front of the podium brought the legacy of black women's leadership with her. So at the end of the day, black women have been steadily increasing our elected representation but the twenty three, million black women in this country are still underrepresented and underserved in you brought up the US Senate that is a a a body that we still have challenges to overcome as relates to electing more black women to that body. So what do we need to do? We need to recruit train and support black women we? Have to support black women. Early, I spent a lot of time talking about electability in that code word that is an obstacle for women, but particularly women's leadership when people don't believe where electable you know support is hard. But at the end of the day, we saw in two thousand, eighteen, five black women elected to Congress that year all who jumped over hurdles and pushed through man made barriers to be elected in. So we are hopeful for this moment just as Senator Harris is a daughter of Shirley Chisholm, legacy calmly, Harris not only will she have coat-tails in this election cycle, but she will be the legacy for our unborn daughters and great granddaughters in the. Future tell our listeners a little bit about who Shirley Chisholm was for some of them who might not know what she did and her Legacy Brooklyn native from Caribbean parents descent. So similar background as Kamla. Harris. She is the first black woman to be elected to Congress she was elected in nineteen, sixty eight but more importantly in this context Shirley Chisholm ran for president in nineteen seventy, two in stepped off the sidelines and believe that she had a voice that needed to be heard in that presidential election. Her slogan was Umba combust and she was able to roker the opportunity to have her name entered into nomination from the floor of the nineteen seventy two. Democratic convention making her the first African. American and first woman for that to happen. So you fast worked for eight years. Later you saw most I burst stage of Democratic candidates buying for president including comma, Harris just a PRI- full moment not only as a black woman, a black woman from criven heritage and for the work of Higher Heights who centers the foundation of our work with the legacy of Shirley, Chisholm inspiring black woman to step off the sidelines. It was a full circle moment. Comma Harris brought that legacy to the stage including naming five black women from Fannie Lou Hamer Diane Nash Constant Baker. Motley in Shirley Chisolm, and so she literally brought them to. The stage in spoke their names from the stage. We've all heard how hard women had to fight for the right to vote the story that's not as well known as the struggle that black women face to make their voices heard to take for example, anti lynching activists. Ib Wills. She was asked in nineteen thirteen by organizer Alice Paul to walk at the back of the Washington DC women's voting March and she said, no, we'll march up front with you or not at all black women thought it was important to sit at that table and be part of building the structure in the blueprint for the nineteenth amendment knowing that they weren't going to reap the. Benefits from that work black woman since the suffrage movement, we have put more into this democracy than we've gotten back and so I think this week the ratification of the nineteenth amendment in frankly August six was the fifty fifth anniversary of the Voting Rights Act. Black women were architects of that movement, and we are literally reaping the benefits of the work of the women that sat at both of those tables where we are truly unleashing not only are organizing power, but our ability to be elected in our ability to ensure that we're going to organize networks to the polls in twenty twenty black women are demanding return on our voting investment and that is in the. Form of policies that directly impact black women our families in our communities, and we are clearly demanding seats at decision making tables. President trump made a big deal about pardoning Susan B. Anthony Susan B.. Anthony at the time was someone who really kind of some people said you know she she gave a lot of concessions to white supremacists. So to actually you know, say at this moment is been one hundred years, but there's a lot more of that story that a lot of people know when you build movements, there's contention you don't always built consensus, but I do believe that the black woman as I mentioned made that movement better and I really appreciate that. We're learning more about those black suffrage is often you hear the biggest name during that time rights to Journa- truth she posed a very important question during that time to a room full of white women and ain't I a woman, and so I certainly believe that even though they were concessions in tins that the black woman's wastes that were there frankly still pushed made that movement in the nineteen, th amendment better it was the foundation of the work over the last hundred years for black women to harness our political power, Glenda car, the Presidency Yo founder of Higher Heights for America. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. No problem. Thanks for having us. Now About Susan B. Anthony on Tuesday president trump officially pardoned her noting she was arrested in eighteen seventy two for voting before it was legal for women to do so she was never pardoned Jews guilty for voting and we are going to be signing a full and complete pardon pardon didn't go over well with some people though Susan B. Anthony is calling to us right now is saying I don't want to be part New York lieutenant, Governor Kathy Hoke will says it sends the wrong message she did nothing wrong that that confers guilt Susan. B. Anthony was guilty at nothing other than being a woman. The national, Susan B. Anthony Museum and houses located in Rochester New York the museums, President Debra l Hughes released a statement on the pardon writing objection Mr President Susan B.. Anthony must decline your offer of a pardon. She says Anthony was outraged for being denied at trial by jury for casting her vote. She proclaimed I shall never pay a dollar of your unjust penalty to pay would have been to validate the proceedings. Hugh. Says Pardoning Susan B. Anthony Actually does the same thing and suggests the best way to honor. Her would be taking a clear stance against voter suppression and Advocating Human Rights for all. Coming up but from buying a house to finding a job, a millennial asks whether boomers are responsible for her economic pain on perspective after this. From ABC News, this perspective, the week's top stories and why they matter I'm Sherry Preston. Coming up corona virus clusters lead a shift away from in person classes on college campuses. But I if Donald Trump is reelected this year, he will be seventy four years old if Joe Biden wins the White House, he'd be seventy seven, the oldest president in American History Joe Biden's technically not baby boomer but pretty close donald trump is one but barely whichever person wins however, they'll be tasked with bridging generational divide that has become much more stark over the past thirty years you hear it a lot boomers critiquing younger generations work ethic and millennials snapping back with the tagline. Okay. boomer there's even a song about. Sixty five plus Pratt on soundcloud. But author lawyer and millennial journalist. Jill Filipovic says, hold on a second. Let's take a look at the facts. MILLENNIALS are the most educated generation in American history and also the most broke. They routinely struggled to find full time work with benefits in an increasingly gig based economy. Millennial families are paying on average forty percent more for their first homes than baby boomers did seventy percent more for health care. In fact, millennials are the first American generation that will do worse than their parents and grandparents. Is it the baby boomer's Fault Philip of his new book is called Okay boomer. Let's talk how my generation got left behind I talked to her. This week I am a cusp of boomer and a gen-xer born in nineteen, sixty four. So I'm kind of responsible for some of these problems but maybe not what are the things your book talks about every chapter focuses on a different problem jobs money housing health climate technology family culture, and you're saying that that a lot of it has been unfair to your generation right out of the goal of the book is to foster intergenerational dialog and to help boomers and an older folks generally realize some of the barriers and challenges that millennials have faced and look at why for example are millennials the oldest of whom are are turning forty this year. Twenty two percent of the American population but we only hold three percents of the wealth. Now, why is it that we are the best educated gender? In American history and yet face tremendous rates of unemployment. The book really tries to dig into what are the real meaty challenges millennials face go beyond the stereotypes and try to explain why we got to this place wanted to start falling apart I think there there's sort of two stories of what has happened for millennials. One was the post nineteen, eighty essentially disinvestment from a lot of public services. So things like healthcare became twice as expensive from lineal families as it was for boomer households when boomers were young adults, things like housing have become much more expensive impart. Because, there's a lack of investment education has become more expensive because federal and state governments are simply not spending nearly as much as they want on were you know the other dynamic is that millennials are the most racially diverse American adults. So many of the kind of baked in racial inequalities that we've seen for all of American history are now really coming to fruition for millennials and we're seeing what happens when families of color for example are barred from owning their homes and how all of the impacts of that trickle down to their children I'm curious to get your. Thoughts what you're thinking of when you watch things that happened during the Democratic convention because there's been a lot of talk about people saying look, it's time to change some of that when it comes to the Democratic Party do millennials more aligned with the Democratic Party than they do the Republican party because of some of the things that you talk about in your Book Day do baby boomers are actually quite politically polarized millennials fall much more to the left and I do think that's because we have faced so many challenges and the system that worked for baby boomers isn't Working for us as millennials really are looking at who is thinking about our future and who's really coming up with creative political solutions to make this landscape better or not just for us. But for our children and we at least you the left recognizing that these problems exists instead of denying an outright when it comes to boomer parents, you also talk about you know we're the first set of parents that actually talked to our kids like adults and like friends and hung out with them and and do you think that that's maybe detrimental to our progression into your generation? That's helpful. You know one thing that I hear from both boomers millennials all the time is that as much as we complain about each other, there's A not my boomer mentality among sales that we think are parents are wonderful. Even if we're frustrated at the generation as a whole and vice versa, it was a less authoritarian way of raising children and I think most child development experts would say that that's largely a good thing but I do think the flip side of that is that there are a lot of boomers who you know I think we'll hear what I'm saying and and their response will. Be well, you know but I gave my children so much you know what do you mean failed millennials and I think what's missing is the fact that even though boomers individually did do a tremendous amount for their children invested a lot in their individual children there wasn't the broad social investment in everyone's children that did allow boomers to thrive and has really been instrumental in keeping a lot of millennials stymied and I think one thing that you hear from. Often is that yes, there is some resentment about the world that is being left to us, but there isn't a sense of okay. Well, now, we want revenge millennials overwhelmingly say that we support programs that help our editors and our parents to do. Well, you know we support social security we support Medicare it's that we want to take our rightful place. Many of us really do feel like we've been handed a very bad hand and then we're being systematically. Blocked from working our way up the ladder of the way our parents were able to maybe just because there's so many of us boomers that it's hard for us to step aside. Well, the book is called Okay boomer. Let's talk how my generation got left behind Jill Filipovic and I would like to congratulate your boomer parents for raising a very smart millennial and thank you very much. Thanks so much for having me and my parents are great. They'll appreciate that. Some colleges around the country are quickly changing course on in-person classes because of covid nineteen, the University of North Carolina sent students home a week after they came back due to a cluster of positive corona virus cases and the University of Notre Dame said it would be suspending in person classes for two weeks because of an outbreak there this week ABC's Trevor All traveled to South Bend and talk to students across the country who've been returning to campus the fighting. Irish. Person Classes for at least the next two weeks after an outbreak of COVID cases. University officials blame off campus parties for the surge. They're now closing public spaces and banning off campus students from campus in hopes of containing the spread Michigan State University's also asking undergrads to stay home pivoting to online only classes as Ithaca, college where some students are frustrated equality of learning remote just doesn't match up to in person, and now after only one week of class, some UNC students are packing up in a scene. You would only expect to see at the end of the semester. Things are really uncertain right now, a lot of anxiety. I'd just rather not live like that in Cherokee County Georgia three schools that reopened have already temporarily closed and with more than two thousand, two, hundred students in quarantine. The District Superintendent says more closures could becoming and in Texas we should be spraying the desks down after each class period teacher. Rachel Sanchez is trying to stay optimistic though her class sizes in the first days back had been. Dwindling as more students turned to virtual learning. I have great teachers who are working with me and so I think we we all try to keep some positive going because it's easy to feel pretty overwhelmed bogged down at this point but I think we're making the University of Notre. Dame students are allowed to stay on campus during this two week stretch of virtual learning, but after the announcement. was made some of those students packed up and left anyway just a week after the first day of classes trevor joins us now to talk more about it. Tell us what it was like in South Bend are we talking about widespread parties that were going on there? How we're things working in the age of covert at the University of Notre Dame? Trevor, at Notre Dame sharee it's I. Think. It's fair to say it is a mixed bag but with the situation as it is really any type of gathering or activity can quickly provide rapid spread which I think is what we're seeing at the university and it's what Notre Dame officials are saying that they are seeing to. Notre Dame, you might remember one of the first universities to save they were going to try in person. And then within the first day or so of classes cases started to trickle in and then they really ramped up so that within a week or two, you saw these hundreds of cases that started to spiral into notre. Dame at least for the time being has backed off of the in person learning and what we saw in our time in south bend is a lot of mixed feelings from some of the students are you certainly? Have people who are upset people who are a little bit afraid people who came back to campus to give it a shot and then just seeing what was happening decided to pack up and leave, and that's something that really worth seeing a lot of universities all across the country because it's a kind of an experimental thing just like we saw what the states, some colleges and universities are more aggressive than others you bring a lot. Of People, back, and then you Kinda just see what happens and some of that behavior is scaring some of the students away and some of the other students studying speaking stereotypically when you're that college age, you might tend to think that you're a bit invincible and I think self preservation is not necessarily high up on the list of some college students behavior they've been kept inside they're finally back with their friends universities are trying to. Evolve their response plans at least the ones that tried in person learning in cases like Notre Dame's you're starting to see it blow up a little bit almost immediately. Yeah. You've also seen pockets Auburn and Alabama you've got Oklahoma State University of North Carolina were students went, and then they're like, okay, it's not working some people were saying look we told you this all along that college campuses a lot of times outbreaks happen Oh You know diseases and and the flu and other things. So why did you not expect this to happen? What are the administrators saying? Are they saying look? We had at least try to do this for a little bit. They certainly aren't necessarily giving up some universities Michigan, State University Ithaca. College they've decided this is just not going to work seeing immediately what happens when they come back other ones are holding a little bit steadfast. They think if we treat this seriously if we reinforce how all of the students and their professors in the. Staff there need to behave that. Maybe we can safely make this happen, but there's just a variable share in it is possible I mean there's there's so many universities and colleges across the country we're hearing from ones where there are outbreaks. There are certainly some that so far there haven't been Kobe nineteen outbreaks, but also there's a limit to what students in universities can do I mean beyond welcoming people back to campus whether or not they have in person classes when you're a student and you're living on campus, there's a lot more to your. Life than just going to class just at Notre Dame, all those officials are saying the vast majority of our cases come from gathering that happened off campus while now, the response to that is to cancel in person classes maybe that will stop spread, but now you still have all these students who are on campus with more free time. If the on campus gatherings don't stop, there's really not a lot that they can do in that spread is just going to continue to ramp up at East Carolina or they haven't had a lot of. Cases so far police there said that in the first weekend back, they've had to break up twenty parties. One of them had four hundred people. We don't have a blueprint for what's happening right now. Sherry and ultimately it's we've seen across the country this entire pandemic it's hard enough to control the population as it is. It's hard enough to get people to wear masks. But now you've got eighteen to twenty two year olds who already want to do their own thing and it could be many cases a recipe for disaster. Let's ABC's Trevor. Alt-. We are all about how different the political conventions have been this year no funding hats, balloons, confetti at conventions. They primarily focus on the issues and rightly. So but there are always those memorable moments some strange like Clint Eastwood talking to that Empty Chair, where do you want me to tell Romney? I tell him do that can't do that to himself. Others historic. America. Is the land where dreams can come. True. All of. Geraldine Ferraro at DNC becoming the first woman nominated for vice president in one thousand, nine, hundred, four, Sarah Palin the second the RNC in two, thousand, eight, I will be honored to accept your nomination for Vice. Also, been the heartfelt moments like Bobby Kennedy's tribute to his brother at the nineteen sixty convention. Getting paid. You. All Your. Thank you on in. The United States. A few years ago. Democratic presidential nominee. Joe. Biden went on the view to remind the country that when he was a boy, he used to Stutter stutter. It's the most debilitating thing and a SANSA. My Mom said I've everything bad something good come probably the best thing that ever happened to me because it makes you we we we we have an expression in my dad you. So you can never say anything about another person that's true. And so because it's so everybody has something that's wrong with them and and they're you know. So for me, it was a I guess is sensitized me in a way that was maybe wouldn't have happened and occasionally I, find myself romance while I catch myself doing that and it's but it just is. Any listed his stutter you can't let it define me walk Thursday night on the final night of the convention America's introduced to thirteen year old Brayden Herrington who met by on the campaign trail there the two spoke about his stutter Brayden spoke to the nation on Thursday about what it meant for him to meet a presidential candidate who had an American experience like his about a few months ago I met him in New Hampshire. He told me that we were members of the same club. We. Is Really Amazing here. This someone like maybe became. Advice. president. He told me about. A book of poems by AIDS, he read aloud to practice. He showed me how he markses addresses to make them easier to say out. Loud. So I did the same thing today. and. Now I'm here talking to you today. About the future. About our future my family often says when the world feels. Bad better. Before. Before talking about something normal like going to the movies. We all want the world field where We need the world feel better. I'm just a regular kid in a short amount of time Joe Biden may marine for Costner bus online is bother me my whole life. Next week, it'll be the Republicans turn president trump will accept the gop nomination and gave his speech from the White House and unprecedented move in American politics will that be one of those memorable moments to we'll have to see if next week show makes history as well. From ABC News, this has been perspective. Thanks for listening. If you want to listen to any of our past shows, you can subscribe to the perspective podcast. Give us a review. If you've got the time, tell us what you like and what you'd like to hear in the future you can find it on apple podcasts, spotify stitcher or wherever you listen to your podcast. You can also find perspective and other ABC News shows at ABC News podcasts dot. com. Perspective is produced by Eric Malo for ABC News I'm Sherry Preston.

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Progressive Dems call on VP Harris to overrule Sen. Parliamentarian on minimum wage provision

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Progressive Dems call on VP Harris to overrule Sen. Parliamentarian on minimum wage provision

"We have breaking news tonight. That could move new york state. One step closer to having a woman governor. The new york times is reporting tonight that yet. Another young woman has come forward with a sexual harassment allegation against new york governor. Andrew cuomo jesse. Mckinley broke tonight's story and has been leading the new york times reporting on. What are now free serious accusations of sexual harassment against the governor from three separate women. Two of home were working for governor cuomo. At the time of the incidents the breaking news development tonight involves a woman thirty years younger than andrew. Cuomo who worked in the obama administration and on the biden presidential campaign but never worked for governor cuomo. She tells the new york times that she had a disturbing encounter with governor quote at new york city wedding in in september of twenty nine thousand nine. The times has included this photograph of the incident as it was happening at the wedding details surrounding that photograph. That are reported in the new york. Times are difficult to read and make you wanna turn away from that photograph. The woman in this photo told the times he said. Can i kiss you. I felt so uncomfortable embarrassed when really. He is the one who should have been embarrassed. Jesse mckinley reporting around. This photograph moves the cuomo story from controversy to crisis. President biden's press secretary was asked today if governor cuomo should step aside while he is being investigated on charges of sexual harassment. If the governor does choose to step aside or is forced to step aside the previously invisible lieutenant governor chaffee hokuto would become the acting governor and the danger for andrew cuomo political danger. If this story keeps going in the direction that has been going is that new yorkers might prefer an experienced woman who served in congress and is now in her second term as lieutenant governor and has never been involved in any controversy. We will bring you the difficult and sensitive details on this story later in this hour with the mayor times reporter who has been leading this investigation for the new york times. Andrew cuomo's political misfortune. Tonight is that he belongs to a political party that cares about sexual harassment and so he is entering the political fight of his life to hold onto his governorship and that fight is only with democrats. Democrats only the democratic mayor of new york today said that he doesn't accept andrew cuomo's apology for any of the misunderstandings that andrew cuomo says may have occurred these communications with women. Democrats aren't going to change their position on sexual harassment in the workplace just because a democrat is accused republicans on the other hand have proven that they don't care about sexual harassment at all. They don't care about any of the accusations including rape credibly made against donald trump and republicans proved once again this weekend that they don't care about any governing policies. The god of the republican party is the most recent defeated presidential candidate who gave his first post presidency speech in florida this weekend and did not say anything about governing policy nothing. He didn't say whether he still believes that. Struggling americans should be getting another round of cova check. Relief checks and a cold relief bill. He didn't say anything about whether republicans should be for or against increasing the minimum wage because republicans as party stand for nothing absolutely nothing no governing principle no governing issue and that means governing now is entirely up to democrats covering in washington passing a cove relief. Bill is entirely up to democrats and the arguments about including an increase in the minimum wage to fifteen dollars in the covid relief. Bill is an argument among democrats. Only the senate parliamentarian lizl mcdonagh who was appointed to her job by the democratic majority leader. Harry reid in two thousand twelve has ruled that a minimum wage increase cannot be included in a budget reconciliation bill according to the unique rules of the senate and everyone in the senate has always assumed that a minimum wage increase could not be allowed in a budget reconciliation. Bill which is why the democrats have never tried to raise the minimum wage in a reconciliation. Bill many new members of the house representatives who are working on their very first budget reconciliation. Bill of their careers have been shocked to discover that the rules of the senate as interpreted by parliamentarian can get in their way. This is a very common experience for members of the house to have this profound irritation to put it mildly with the senate parliamentarian last night. Cars won't alexandria ocasio. Cortez said this. We should override the parliamentarian on. I think that this is a matter of worse than that. Our our constituents and people across this country put democrats in power to among many other things establish fifteen dollar minimum wage. We have a responsibility to do. That are two options are realistically override. The parliamentarian or eliminate the filibuster. Those are the only to pass that we have in order to actually create substantive change in the united states. And that is what people across the country centers here to do some simple enough override the parliamentarian and it can be done but last week white house chief of staff franck lane told joy reid but vice president kamala harris would not overrule the senate parliamentarian white house announced last week. They wouldn't do that and today. White house press secretary. Jen psaki set it again The the decision for advice. The vice president to of vote to overrule or to take a step to overrule is not a simple decision It would also require fifty votes as you know. It's not a one step decision. And the president and the vice president both respects the history of the senate. They are both formerly served in the senate. And that's not an action. We intend to take and so even the white house repeatedly saying no vice-president harris will not overrule the senate parliamentarian members of house representatives. Continue to push for that to happen. Here's congressman draw with joy. Reid earlier tonight. I think that the problem -tarian should be overruled. That is not unprecedented as you know Hubert humphrey did it in nineteen sixty seven. One thousand nine hundred sixty nine roosevelt. Did it in one thousand nine hundred seventy five. These are certainly unprecedented times where we could thank the parliamentary. For her opinion. It is an advisory opinion and then we could still included in the minimum wage. Bill promoted giant. Paul is absolutely right about all of that. Commentaries opinion is just an advisory opinion. But she did miss speak there when she said that vice president roosevelt did it. Nineteen seventy five. She meant vice. President rockefeller in nineteen seventy four. But that's the last time it happened forty six years ago so there's nothing more rare in the united states senate than overruling. The parliamentarian was actually forty seven years ago. And in this case it cannot work as a way of passing. The minimum wage cannot possibly work because the democrats don't have enough votes among the democrats to pass the minimum wage after vice. president harris. Overrules the problem terry which they've already announced he's not do but let's go along with it. If vice-president harris overruled the senate parliamentarian and allowed the minimum wage to be included in the reconciliation. Bill than mitch. Mcconnell would simply offer an amendment to remove the minimum wage from the reconciliation and the democrats would lose that vote at least two democrats. Joe mansion in princeton would vote against including the minimum wage in the reconciliation bill and it is actually possible at a few other democrats. Mike join them in that boat earlier tonight in an interview with rachel model. Senator elizabeth warren said this. If we say that we're going to get rid of the filibuster. We are going to go with majority rule with the way the constitution holds for the house and the senate and we can actually pass the things we need to pass than this. This isn't an issue. So get the filibuster. Is the suggestion for senator warren about how to pass the minimum wage but there are ways to raise the minimum wage without using a budget. Reconciliation bill or getting rid of the senate filibuster because that's the way the minimum wage has always been raised without using budget reconciliation and without getting rid of the senate filibuster and we are joined tonight by a master of the senate to help guide us through the options leading off our discussion. Tonight jim manley. At twenty one year veteran of the united states senate who served as an advisor to majority leader harry reid and to the chairman of the senate labor committee senator ted kennedy also with us jane johnson professor of politics journalism at morgan state. University he is an msnbc political analyst and host of the new podcast a word with jason johnson For slate jim. Let's begin with the with the senate options of the get rid of the filibuster which is has become kind of the easy throwaway line that we already know is impossible because joe manchin kristen cinema have said they absolutely will not vote to do that. but the at outlined why Try to get this into. Reconciliation won't work because mitch. Mcconnell can strip it out with an amendment if you did overrule the parliamentarian of the last time the minimum wage was raised. It was just squeezed into a defense spending bill at the last minute And and that's the kind of way that's the way it was done in the past is just stuck onto must pass bills that then republicans votes for and in fact the last time they raised it. George bush was president. Two thousand seven republican presidents signed it because it was inside a giant bill with military funding. Well i just so happened to be working for. Senate candidate the author of that last minimum wage bill. When we did this and it's a little bit more complicated i know. We begin with the premise that he spent more than a year stock in the senate floor looking for attempts to offer amendments to raise the minimum wage. I put together more press conferences about humanly possible. Zion try highlight the need to get it done at some point. We were dealing with the guy. John bainer a who at that point in time was the chairman of the educational work for betty who was dead set against doing anything on minimum wage. But when push comes to shop. He was offered a compromise. Included hatch breaks for small business. God kennedy heated that yet. 'cause we never done by asi art of compromise. That's what it takes to try and get things so from life me your opening segment. You nailed the crappy. I mean none of these options being discussed are going to work all of them end up. Be an some more than our other. So yes let's get center mansion room. Let's get republicans a room. Let's try and figure out a cop minds in if they can't do it but first of all we gotta take the first step and these guys did whatever. And i'm talking about senator naturally as well johnson. So ron claimed said last wednesday to joy reid No we're not going to overrule the senate parliamentarian and that is a white house call because it would be vice president harris who would have to do it Sitting in the presiding officers chair Then the white house says again. Today jen psaki. We're not going to do that. They couldn't be more clear and yet members of the house. Representatives continue to say overrule the parliamentarian. What what's going on. Is there a communication disconnect here lawrence. I have to say as your other guest mentioned. You're opening was brilliant. Brilliant because i think there's some basic civics and government classes that certain members of congress have not followed up on. This is a little bit beyond schoolhouse. Rock right at the end of the day you have sort of people in the house and again the house supposed to be that philosophically. The house was the ravel. It's the passion. It's the people do it do it do it. The senate is a deliberative body and at the end of the day. Yes they could try to get rid the filibuster. That's not going to work mansion in cinema. Don't want that to happen. If you fire the senate parliamentarian as you said know mitch mcconnell just say no and then you'll have an embarrassing vote to the minimum wage. You can't blow everything up right here right now. On this particular issue and quite honestly lawrence long-term i actually think this works for democrats. They can keep fighting for the fifteen dollars. Minimum wage for the next year and a half emblazoned on republicans. All they want passing this bill. Now is the immediate relief people need and fighting for the fifteen minimum wage. Which by the way has passed in many states throughout the country is still an issue. They can fight. I think this is sort of a short term thinking by really passionate well intentioned people in the house of representatives who may not understand the long term strategy that might be a play in the senate well some of them have said and i get this that the the parliamentarian. The moment with the parliamentarian hasn't happened until it happens. And so we're going to continue to lobby on this right up until the moment when the parliamentarians a moment on the senate floor happens and vice. President harris has that decision to make. So i get. I think why they are continuing to put this pressure on. Even though the white house said they're not going to do it but we are definitely going to have a vote on the senate floor on the minimum wage and bernie sanders has told us how to. He has tweeted tonight This week as part of the reconciliation. Bill i will be offering an amendment to raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour and jammed. This is exactly the way we would expect this to play in the senate chuck schumer won't have the minimum wage in the bill that he brings to the floor because he knows how the parliamentarians going to rule and so the what will happen is the will be this. Sanders amendment offered and it will take fifty votes to pass it a plus vice president. Harrison's vote if they if they can get there and that will tell you that will tell you right there if the democrats can do it absolutely at end to their. I'd say it's about time somebody figured out. That strategy is trying move the amendment process. Just it back off. So i'm glad that senator sanders made its management tonight but it back off what i tried to say earlier when kennedy. Now the doesn't have to be a one-off on this can be the beginning of jason suggested a series of pressure tack zayda Republicans on -fensive and trying to figure out a way to try and cut a deal worth. Maybe it's not going to be the fifteen. Maybe it's going to be twelve fifty when her again with tax breaks for the wealthy but it again i would encourage that senator sanders made this announcement tonight. and i can only hope it's going to be the first of many attempts dry put republicans in a difficult position because after all is a pretty popular position in many states of trying to vote against the minimum wage. Just like it. You should have it and jason I think i think the house members by this time. Know what they're dealing with and what their likelihood is down to a in the one percent range of the parliamentarian but at this stage of of the argument That seems to be the best way for them to kind of keep this discussion alive. Which is the house. Way of putting pressure on senators. They're hoping that somehow they're going to deliver some kind of pressure. Joe mansion and kristen in this is this is actually the smart thing to do. Some of this is a lack of understanding. But like i said some of this is the houses job there needs to be a minimum wage increase in the united states of america just just period right minimum wage today. Lost what seventeen eighteen of its value since the last minimum wage increase. We're in the middle of a pandemic where people have lost. Hundreds of thousands of jobs and whole families are being supported by one person on minimum wage. There's a legitimate urgency here but the houses best option is to continue to pressure and even if they throw unrealistic ideas. It's part of a larger. I think pressure on joe biden. They say look incremental. Ism is not going to get us out of this. Covert mess okay. Donald trump was not an 'incrementalist. He tore down everything to push through. Whatever policies wanted. And i think democrats across the board want to see that kind of action from joe biden so on that end i never disagree with people who want joe biden big moves in the face of a once in a century crisis that this country is facing jim before we go. I just want to say. I i can remember Senator kennedy It was a lonely quest in those days trying to get attention to the minimum wage. Even democrats thought they had bigger things to deal with. It was very very hard to do it here. We have a visibility. That i'm not sure. The minimum wage increases had in decades. This is an urgency level on a visibility. We haven't seen before. We're going to find out what that's worth politically going forward. Jim manley professor jason johnson. Thank you very much for starting us off tonight. Really appreciate arms that give and coming up the most important ongoing political story of our time. It's nothing less than that. It is the republican attempt to restrict your right to vote in this country democratic carson. Collin allred a former voting rights. Lawyer joins us next and later in the hour we will be covering the breaking news tonight on governor andrew cuomo with a reporter from the new york times who has been leading their investigation of charges of sexual harassment against the governor tonight stacey. Abrams told joy reid why. Republicans suddenly oppose mail in voting in georgia. Mail in voting is primarily has been primarily used by republican voters for years twenty. Twenty was the first time. Democrats won both early voting in mail in voting and to break that simply because too many democrats voted because too many black and brown people voted is to cut off your nose to spite your face and the people who are in charge should be listened to and they should be. We should hear loud and clear that they are willing to to destroy democracy to win elections joining us now is democratic carson column allred of texas. He has worked as a voting rights. Attorney thank you very much for joining us tonight. I am calling this the most important ongoing political story of our time. There's not necessarily a new development every day but the momentum is moving every day in one direction for republican legislatures. And that is make it harder for you to vote What stacey abrams is talking about is republicans now in georgia want to limit the way. They have successfully voted in the past because they saw it worked for democrats this time lawrence. And we've seen this for years. Now that this is not a new trend overseeing i think in the recent spanish laws i is the most severe restrictions but on the right to vote really since the day is jim crow and just like in days denver overseeing politicians using the guise of election security to try and put in place laws that are surgically targeted to try and restrict the voting rights of folks who they think might not against them might vote for them and so you know as voting rights attorney. I've seen this layout in reality of seeing the frustration on a boaters face. They realize that they've missed some arbitrary deadline. Or they don't have the right idea. It's heartbreaking but it's also not who we are as a country what the the house has has legislation that tries to deal with this hr one what. What would that do well. Hr one is in my opinion. The sword thrust to affirmatively expand voting-rights. I'd has automatic and same day voter registration it ended. it ends things like voter. purges stop things like voter. id laws would also end artisan gerrymandering. That's that's the affirmative expansion of voting that we need we also have hr for the john lewis voting rights act to repair the damage done by the supreme court to the voting rights act. That would be the shield to allow us to defend ourselves against some of these laws to bring back a national pre clearance standard. So that states. That maybe weren't cover previously. Would be covered by pre clearance. That's the approach. We need to take might in from both sides will affirmatively expanding voting rights and fixing with the supreme court did in gutting the voting rights. Act so with your experience as a voting rights attorney and quarterback in this for the democrats. What's more important the national legislation through the house through the senate or fighting these things within the state legislatures. Well it's going to be a long fight in the state legislatures and as you know lawrence we have so many of these legislatures that we don't control and that we don't ability to stop what they're doing and unfortunately of the last four years we've seen judges put on federal courts from the district court level eloquent level to certainly the supreme court who are going to be hostile to boating. So we can't just rely on the courts and we can't just rely on the state legislatures to do the right thing so we have to have a federal law. We don't wanna have a vastly different voting rights from one state to another. I wanna make sure we set a national standard. It should be fair at has to be something that inspires confidence in the american people. Certainly but let's be very clear. Voter fraud is not a a large risk for our country. The risk of facing right now is that politicians are trying to pick their voters. They're trying to put in place laws to make it impossible for them in many cases to lose their jobs that that's not how this thing works somebody who has run for office myself. I can tell you you know you have to accept being texas democrat that you might lose some elections every now and then you go out you organiz you put for policy think can convince people to vote for you and you try to win. That's how we do things in our country not easy being texas democrat but for one. Republican is suddenly not. Easy being texas republican. Before you go. I just want to ask you about others new. Polls showing ted cruz in texas with a pretty big disapproval number. Forty eight percent disapprove of forty-three percent approve disapprove is higher than as approved which is a very bad situation for an incumbent officeholder that seems to be texans realizing what government means to them in a crisis like the electricity failure in texas. We still have texans right at lawrence. Who don't have water. We still texans right now. Who are cleaning up from their ceilings collapsing in their pipes bursting. Who are wondering how they're gonna pay an afford replacing some of the things that they've lost their their vessels facts and to during this crisis to have the arrogance and kind callousness to think that this is a good time to go on vacations as senator cruised it. Also as attorney general he was in utah or to lie about what caused it as governor debt. And say that it's actually wind power. That did it. I think shows. I just a lack of respect for texans a lack of empathy for. What's going on. There is so many things that i am opposite doing right now to try and help folks. I can't imagine thinking about would be a good time to get away and get some sun. And and i think that's reflected in the bowl you mentioned ch- carson calling allred of texas. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thanks so much lawrence and thank you for covering this really important issue. You're right it is the most important one. Thank you very much. Appreciate the coming up tonight. It's good news. A third corona virus vaccine has just become available in the united states. Dr peter hotels joins us next today. Johnson johnson began shipping three point nine million doses of its vaccine which requires just one shot and can be stored in standard refrigerators. Food and drug administration approved the vaccine for emergency use on saturday. The johnson johnson vaccine is eighty five percent effective against severe covid nineteen but one hundred percent effective against hospitalization and death from covid nineteen johnson johnson is promising to deliver twenty million doses by the end of this month visor and moderna currently testing their vaccines in children. Twelve and older. Johnson johnson is planning to rapidly. Move to test. Its vaccine in children. Younger than twelve years. Old including newborns. Then johnson johnson will test its vaccine in pregnant women today. Dr anthony fauci said this. If you project realistically when we'll get enough data to be able to say that elementary school children will be able to be vaccinated. I would think that would be at the earliest the end of the year and very likely the first quarter of twenty twenty two but for the high school kids. It looks like sometime this fall and joining us now. Dr peter hotels dean of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. Dr houghton hotels. What is your sense of. Where the johnson johnson vaccine fits into the current vaccine delivery program. While we urgently need a third vaccine we are actually going to need a fourth and a fifth vaccine as well. We have a daunting task ahead of us are original estimates. Were about sixty to eighty percent of the us population needs to be vaccinated in order to slow or halt virus transmission in addition to saving lives and now with the new variants coming along the variance of concerns which are more transmissible like the b. One one seven. That number is gonna probably go up to eighty five percent or even higher. So dr fauci is right. We will need adolescence. Vaccinated and possibly kids infants. I i don't know that that's going to be happening in the us anytime soon. But certainly pivoting towards adolescence. I think you only disappointing news about the j. vaccine lawrence's the fact that We only have three or four million doses delivered right now. The whole point of operation warp speed was to manufacturer at risk so that we would have vaccine ready to go and we don't have a lot of time because now with this new variant accelerating the original timetable of vaccine to by the fall. That's out the window. We've got a vaccinate. The american people by late spring early summer. So i'm very disappointed to learn that we have so so little vaccine coming in. We still have to wait for the mother lode to come over the summer. So that's a problem as a practical technical matter. It seems like the johnson johnson vaccine would end up being the one that we might someday be able to get at our doctor's office of because it doesn't require any extraordinary refrigeration. He and that's going to be true. The next few vaccines that come down the pike. It'll be true the j. vaccine the astrazeneca vaccine the nova vacs vaccine are vaccine. Is well if it ever gets into the. Us were accelerating production in india now for low and middle income countries So that's right. It's going to be a little more user friendly. The amarna technology will improve In the next five years it'll be easier to scale up production. Probably they'll work it out to the point where you can keep it at four degrees refrigeration temperatures or even room temperature but not right now not for this pandemic and we just saw last week. The first shipments to ghana and and africa will probably be a place much more suitable for the johnson. Johnson vaccine Because of that refrigeration issue which in with transport Around the continent of africa refrigeration would also be difficult during transport lawrence. The emerging story coming out of africa is not good news The be one three five one variant to south africa is now accelerating into mozambique into malawi going into to zimababwe and even though africa's done pretty well in twenty twenty i worry their time has come when this thing is really going to accelerate and we don't have vaccine for africa we the to marinate vaccines are probably not going to be scaled adequately to make a big impact on africa. The j. j. vaccine yard see the production problems we're having. It's unclear a what role that's going to have the astra zeneca veteran which is a good vaccine. Uk variant does not seem to work against the south african variant. We're running out of options or hoping vaccine can come in but i worry there's a humanitarian catastrophe unfolding at africa if the south african variant really starts to accelerate. We don't have a lot of options. Fortunately and of course the richer governments in the world have been competing for these vaccines. That's right they all took care of themselves by the way. The global policymakers did a good job trying to they anticipated this. You know organizations like sepe and gavi. Lots of acronyms probably are not too familiar with the general american public but important global health organizations. Who saw this coming. And they created a kovac sharing facility. The question is whether we have enough durable and quality vaccines to deliver to places like sub saharan africa. Dr peter hotels. Thank you very much for joining us again tonight. Thanks so much and coming up we will be joined by the new york times reporter. Who broke the news tonight. A third accuser of sexual harassment. By new york's governor andrew cuomo this. This report includes a photograph of the moment. The alleged sexual harassment was taking place arm. Feel i have to issue a warning about this segment. We're gonna show you a photograph that appears in the new york times tonight of an alleged sexual harassment incident in progress. It's a moment at a wedding reception on. The governor of new york is trying to kiss a woman who is thirty years younger than he is to. Put it mildly. She does not look pleased and she told her story to the new york times tonight. In a report that has now decided moved the governorship of andrew cuomo to an extreme crisis point. Most americans have no idea who their lieutenant governor is. And that's the way most governors like it. They want the limelight to themselves. But the limelight. On new york governor andrew cuomo is growing so hot as accusations of sexual harassment continued to mount almost every day. Now that new yorkers might soon begin to focus on. New york's usually invisible lieutenant governor. Kathy huckle kathy. Hokuto is from buffalo. She served as a legislative assistant. To new york's senior. Senator daniel patrick moynihan before getting elected to the house of representatives. She is now serving her second term as lieutenant governor of new york and as new york's attorney general begins an investigation of the governor. It could become necessary for kathy. Hokey to step in as acting governor. That possibility was raised and the white house briefing room today. If the president can serve that visted. Serve as a distraction from governor. Cuomo's handling can shoot. He's actually step aside. While this investigation is underway so that the running strategies handling well as i stated yesterday on the president's view as been consistent and clear that every woman coming forward should be tweeted treated with dignity and respect that applies to charlotte that applies to lindsay and any women coming forward charlotte bunt and lindsay. Boylan have each gone public with their accounts of being sexually harassed by governor cuomo Boylan who is now a candidate for manhattan. Borough president posted her written account online. Five days ago saying that. The governor made suggestive. Comments to her governor's private plane and that he wants kissed her on the lips in his office. Governor cuomo denied those accusations charlotte bennett. Who is twenty five years old. Told the new york times in a story published this weekend. That when she was working for the governor last year at the height of the covid nineteen pandemic. The governor initiated conversations. With her about her dating life asked her if she believed age differences mattered and said that he was open to dating quote. Anyone above the age of twenty. Two governor cuomo issued a statement. Yesterday apologizing saying. I now understand that. My interactions may have been insensitive or too personal and that some of my comments given my position made others feel in ways. I never intended. Charlotte refuse to accept that apology today. Saying the governor has refused to acknowledge or take responsibility for his predatory behavior situation for the governor. Got much worse tonight with new reporting from our next guest jesse mckinley in the new york times. The times tells the story of an iraq thirty years younger than the governor and met him at a new york city wedding in september. Twenty nineteen and iraq has never worked for governor cuomo. She worked in the obama administration and she worked on the biden presidential campaign in twenty twenty the times reports. The governor was working the room after toasting the newlyweds. And when he came upon ms rock now thirty-three she thanked him for his kind words about her france but what happened next instantly unsettled her. Mr cuomo put his hands on ms roxbury lower back. She said in an interview on monday. Ms rook said that touch on her bare skin discomforted her. I promptly removed his hand with my hand. Which i thought was a clear enough indicator but i was not wanting him to touch me. She said instead msrp said. Mr cuomo called her aggressive and placed his hands on her cheeks. He said can i kiss. You said. i felt so uncomfortable and embarrassed when really. He is the one who should have been embarrassed. A friend captured the exchange in a series of photographs. Taken on ms rooks cellphone shaken. Ms ruck said she later. Had to ask a friend of mr cuomo. His lips had made contact with her face as she pulled away. The governor had kissed her cheek. She was told it's the act of impunity. That strikes me. Ms rock said i didn't have a choice in the in that matter. I didn't have a choice. In his physical dominance over me at the moment. And that's what. Furious may an even with what i could do. Removing his hand from my lower back even doing that was not clear. Enough unnerved and baffled ms rook said she posed for photographs with mr cuomo afterwards. Wants to governor walked away. Ms rex friend approached her with a look of alarm. It was when my friend looked at me and said are you okay with such genuine concern on her face that i realized obviously inappropriate. It was ms rock. Said not only to me to those around me as well. we'll be joined by jesse mckinley. Who broke this story in the new york times tonight after this break jesse mcginley's breaking news reporting in the mirror times tonight and iraq who is thirty years younger than their ex governor andrew cuomo and described an encounter at a wedding where the governor tried to kiss her against her will jesse mckinley reports. What happened next after collecting herself later. That night ms rock said she had hoped to speak with the governor before he left the reception and confronted him about his behavior but by then. She said she could not find him. I would have rather just said that night. She said i wanted to say that wasn't okay joining us now. Is the albany bureau chief for the new york times jesse mckinley. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. I wanted to go through these three accusations and make sure i have. We have the governors of position a defined. On this. As i as i see the governor specifically denied the allegations made by lindsey boylan. Has he denied the allegations. Made by charlotte bennett or anna rock. He has not of charlotte told her story to me last week. And then we posted on saturday night and since that time. The governor is not explicitly. Denied anything that charlet said. He made kind of more. Lebron's statement on saturday saying that. He believed to be a mentor ships. Rather than a a relationship that this bad believed was varying in the sexual manner in the case of that. We broke this evening with matt flight. Heimer my excellent colleague and his response to that as far has been simply to point back to a statement that he made on sunday night at some of his remarks he feels have simply been misinterpreted that he has been known to banter with people and that he apologized if people took that as inappropriate comments. Do you think that the anaerobic story will be regarded differently in albany because this was not an at work story. Well certainly it is not a place a case of workplace discrimination. But i i think it's beginning to fit into a narrative lawrence of first of all governor under siege. But also governor who's private behavior is being thrust the guy you know this is a guy who is running. The state for ten years has had you know pretty remarkably high popularity ratings since the krona buyers struck a and now has had without a doubt the worst six to eight weeks of his tenure. Not only with this scandal over the sexual harassment with the nursing home data being withheld as well as some kind of abrasive aggressive behavior against lawmakers. So i think in tokyo this last couple of months has really damaged mr reputation which was rising and now works in a very perilous position as as we enter march and so we now have the attorney general of launching an an investigation. Good she's gonna hire the going to hire outside counsel so that it's impartial at the attorney general herself as a democrat But in general historically a new york governors in new york attorneys general Don't don't necessarily have great relationships than than that's very kind way you cover call himself. Wasn't attorney general. Handout was known to make eliot spitzer's life quite miserable and certainly that is a long established trend in this case know trains. Who is the attorney general. Here in the state of we'll be giving basically subpoena power and perhaps a staff to outside investigator to look into these claims and kim. That's a pretty powerful stack united. Subpoena power means that you can compel people to give up documents and recordings you can get witnesses to come in and give depositions all of which for an aggressive prosecutor or a special prosecutor or special investigator in this case can be pretty powerful weapons to take the truth and of course ticket At governor cuomo's reputation. I want to read more of the governor's statement which was issued a prior to a your reporting tonight so it applied to the first two cases that we knew about Said to be clear. I never inappropriately touched anybody. I never propositioned. Anybody and i never intended to make anyone feel uncomfortable but there these are allegations. That new yorkers deserve answers to so. There's the governor himself Supporting an investigation and ultimately it was on his authority That he asked the attorney general to conduct this investigation even though he was looking for a different form of it over about a twenty four hour period before it evolved into what it is now and so this investigation is gonna go on you. Is there any sense of how long an investigation like this would take. It's interesting you say. Say that since the story was number came out earlier tonight at you know there have been caused paisley expedite this Investigation to kind of. Give it a so to speak to get going to get on. Its feet and trying to get answers out there as quickly as possible. Because i think beyond governor almos- uncomfortable position. I think for the people of new york. There's a lot of unanswered questions. Allow people were wondering what happened here. And i think there's going to be pressure for st resolution jesse mckinley. Thank you very much for joining us from albany tonight really appreciate and that is tonight's last word.

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Wray: Jan. 6 riot included violent extremists who advocate for superiority of white race

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Wray: Jan. 6 riot included violent extremists who advocate for superiority of white race

"Now it's time for the last word with lawrence. Donald good evening lights. The racial and i know you said let us never speak of this again. But this news about the rachel maddow show being the highest rated show on all of cable television. Not just cable news but all of cable television is worth mentioning. Just this one more time and i have to include a thank you to you rachel because thanks to your enormous ratings surge as usual you have held us up as the number two rated show on msnbc entirely because you say good evening to me every night like that's it. That's the whole reason. I'm sitting here at number two lawrence. If you want to kill me on television you can probably come up with a more direct way to do it. If you just want to kill me bhai blushing. This is gonna pay painful thing for all of us. The thing i do have to check though is i'm not sure if below deck was running new episodes During this last ratings periods so you know all of cable news if it includes below deck really is a miracle. It's an amazing achievement. We we all learned to be humble and in our in our own way thank. You don't believe now don't you let us never speak of this again. Because i beg your rachel well we have good news tonight and i mean much bigger. Good news than msnbc. Reading's we have great news. We have the best news that we have delivered to you about the covid nineteen pandemic since we began covering it a year ago. You are going to be vaccinated. You're going to be vaccinated sooner than you think. If you haven't been vaccinated already you and every adult you know we'll be vaccinated in the next few months. President biden has ranged for the delivery of enough vaccine by may to vaccinate every adult in america. Your lives are going to change for the better. You're going to be safer. Your your vaccination is on the way we will cover the details of that good news later in this hour. We begin tonight with fbi director. Christopher who went to the senate judiciary committee today to kill a republican lie at a recent judiciary committee hearing republicans tried to float the lie that the people who attacked the capital on january sixth the people who threatened to kill mike pants and did kill a capital. Police officer were not trump supporters. The fbi director would have none of that today. Based on your investigation so far. Do you have any evidence that the capital tech was organized by quote fake trump protesters. We have not seen evidence of that at this stage. Certainly you've said there have been two eighty arrests so far. Has there so far. Been any evidence that the january sixth riot here. The insurrection was used by people. Simply posing as supporters of president. Trump's we have not seen any evidence of that Certainly is there any evidence at all that it was organized planned or carried out by groups like antifa or black lives matter. We have not seen evidence of any evidence to that effect thus far in the event is there any doubt that the people who stormed the capital included white supremacist and other far-right extremists organizations. There's no doubt that it included individuals that we would call militia violent extremists And then in some instances individuals that were racially motivated. Violent extremists who advocate for you know the superiority of the white race but the militia violent extremists would probably at the moment Trending the biggest bucket if you will a recent senate. Judiciary committee hearing republican senator. Ron johnson described the attackers at the capitol as peace loving tourists of government who were provoked by the capitol. Police's use of harsh crowd control tactics. The fbi director squashed that bit of insanity this way. I was appalled at the violence and destruction that we saw that day. I was appalled that you are. Countries elected leaders were victimized right here in these halls that attack. That siege was criminal behavior plain and simple and its behavior that we the fbi view domestic terrorists. It's got no place in our democracy and tolerating it would make a mockery of our nation's rule of law. The senate judiciary committee is the home of the two senators. Most responsible for the attack. On the capital on january six senator holly was the first member of the senate to say that he would object to the counting of the electoral votes on january. Six as soon as senator. Holly announced that he would do that. Everyone on the senate knew that senator cruz would try to catch up to senator holly in pandering to the trump vote. Senator cruz not only joined senator. Holly he helped round up other senators to object to the counting of the electoral votes without senate objections. To the counting of the electoral votes. The process would have moved along at high speed as it usually does. And the electoral votes might have been officially counted before the invasion of the capital senator. Holly and senator cruz gave the attackers of the capital. The time they need to succeed in temporarily stopping the counting of the electoral votes and on the day when the biden administration withdrew near attendance nomination for budget director because of maine tweets that were true. Senator holly and senator cruz still have their jobs. Senator holly spent his question time with the director of the fbi infect working as defense counsel for the invaders of the capitol and trying to suppress the government's evidence against them. What about the cell tower data that was reportedly scooped up by the bureau on the day during in fact while the riot was underway. What what what's happened. What's happened to that data. you still have. It hasn't been retained Do you have plans to retain it. How do we gonna know what you're doing with it. And how are we going to evaluate the bureau's conduct if if we don't know what authorities you're invoking what precisely you're doing what you're retaining. Fbi director of course refused to answer any of those questions about specific evidence gathering in an ongoing federal criminal investigation which now includes conspiracy charges against some defendants other. Republicans steered as far away from the invasion of the capital as they possibly could and pretended to time travel back to the first year of the trump presence. You still use methods like gang tattoos to identify who belongs to ms thirteen. Our first guest tonight. Senator amy klobuchar pressed the fbi director on an fbi. Intelligence memo sent from the norfolk virginia. Fbi saying that there could be extreme violence at the trump event on january six. We did communicate that information in a timely fashion to the capitol police and pd in not one not two but three different ways just to send an email but it's more than just an email right so first off the email itself went to. I think there are maybe as many as five. Capitol police task force officers on the joint. Terrorism task force and the whole point of the joint. Terrorism task force is for the chosen representatives of the partner agency to be there in the loop real time. So that everybody's got the same information so that each agency can use that information to do what it needs to do. But in addition to the email so belt and suspenders. It was verbally briefed And i don't. It's hard sometimes for members of congress to picture what these command post briefings are like the picture that command post that we had stood up at the washington field office representative all these agencies in the room. People coming up to the microphone. Wanted time saying okay. Now we're tracking this. We're seeing this. We don't know if it's real or not but here's what we're seeing everybody's taking notes and the whole idea is they're supposed to go back and pass it up their chain of command and then third in addition to that it was put into the law leap the law enforcement portal to make birdie gossip so having said that i do not consider what happened on january six to be acceptable result. And that's why we're looking so hard figuring. How can the process be improved leading off our discussion tonight. Democrat senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. She's a member of the senate. Judiciary committee senator. Are you satisfied with the fbi directors. Answer through your line of inquiry about the intelligence available to them before the attack on the capital i think he was straightforward my issue and he had admitted this in a wish they could have done more wish that they could infiltrated the proud boys. In some way in had the information that you know is there given that they've now arrested twenty members of that group And so what. I appreciated about his testimony. Today was how clear he was in. As you point out defeating this crazy theory that somehow antifa was in charge of this invasion. Or as ron johnson said this was a festive event. And all of these things. I think he was very good about making clear. This was a coordinated attack. Which when senator peterson i held are hearing last week with senator. Portman blunt That we heard the same thing from those that were running the capitol police at the time and the sergeant at arms coordinated attack run by white supremacist groups. Extremists and i think it's really important for people to understand that. Because these guys in the senate ali and crews and ron johnson are still spewing misinformation and that is not what we need right now. We wanna fix this and make sure we do the right thing by getting the police chief and everyone on board here so this never happens again. We can't have a bunch of lies out there and i thought the fbi director. I was very good about disposing of those very clearly. Senator what is it. Like to have senator holly across the room from you on a day like today in a hearing like this when he is the senator who created the opportunity and he created the opportunity by declaring that he was going to challenge the cop of the electoral votes days. Before the count. It gave people that gave the people who attacked the capital. Plenty of time to calculate how much time with the process would be slowed down by senator hollies objections and how much time they would have to pull off what ultimately became clearly for some of them. At least a plot to attack the capital. I just keep thinking of those words. Have you no shame. Have you know humbleness about this when you think about The fact that as so many of them were spouting these theories we were taking them on in the senate chamber. And then literally minutes. After i took on senator cruz and use those words. It's a republican. We can have pointed out that his misinformation what he was saying and the lies that he was saying. We're actually contributing to people believing this. The capital was breached. And so that's what. I keep thinking on the other hand i think something else lawrence and that is at there are people in. We're going to have a hearing again tomorrow. Who wanted to get to the bottom of this. Why in the world where they're not plans made of course from the capital pleased to have the The chief i'd have the national guard. They're ready to go When given the intelligence they knew by friday in additional intelligence a day before Win that call was made and this is key when we are going to have the head of the washington dc national guard at this hearing tomorrow when he was on the phone pleading to get the help to get the authority to be able to go over to help out at the capitol at two thirty. Why did they wait until two hours later to give them the authority from the defense department while we were all were in the middle of it but everyone else was watching it on. Tv as he's people were breaking through is carrying spears and polls hand cuffs weapons mp meaning eating police officers who were shrieking between doors why why was that authorization not given right away so. Those are just a flavor of some of the questions that we are going to ask. And that's going to be tomorrow. One more question about about today's hearing when senator holly in the manner of criminal defense attorney was questioning the fbi director about evidence collection and questioning him in a way that seemed to be a objecting to in certain forms of evidence collection. In this case it some people had to wonder is senator holly afraid of just how efficient the evidence collection might be and what it might find out about him. I don't know why you would pick this particular hearing to do that. A win in fact. Everyone is at least mouthing the words that they want to have the people prosecuted and the fbi has made over hundreds of arrests. They've got hundreds of thousands of tips. These are major investigation. The first one was filed. Just monday in washington state against the leaders of the proud boys in which they actually said in the multiple page indictment that in fact this was a coordinated effort. So there's more to come in. I would be much more interested in pushing them to keep gathering evidence while we don't even have an attorney general in place yet. They are doing this. And so i think you. You certainly don't want to pull them back. When we're trying to solve crimes and that resulted by the way in depth. Senator amy klobuchar. Thank you very much luna saw. I really appreciate it. Thank you thank you and judy. Our discussion chuck rosenberg is former. Us attorney for the eastern district of. Virginia he's an msnbc legal contributor host of the podcast the oath and chuck with your experience in the serving working the fbi. As you did of what did you. Make of. The directors answered a senator klobuchar about the handling of that intelligence before january six. You know i wasn't surprised. By laurence he talked about the intelligence in three ways. One you collect stuff to you. Analyze stuff and three. You disseminates the and the problem is in that middle piece. How good a job. Are you doing analyzing the stuff i mean. We share almost everything in a post nine eleven world. Nobody wants to get caught standing when the music stops. So the sharing. Isn't the problem and chris right. Smart guy honorable guy good. Fbi director talked about the fact that the nofd report was shared. But here's the problem when you receive something like that. How do you know that that's the thing that you have to focus on. How do you know that that's the thing that really really matters. I mean in retrospect in hindsight it's blindingly obvious but if you're sharing everything and as chris said today this was a non verified report. How do you know at the time that vast the thing. That really matters the way i would do it. I would a fourth thing lawrence. I'm sure you do this to if you're sending an email to somebody and it's really important and you don't want it to get lost. Might you not call them and say hey email you later today. I really need you to focus on this thing. Read it and call me when you're done if you're really concerned about information that you're sending it you don't want it to get lost. I think you have to go a step. Further merely posting it on a law enforcement portal or merely sending. An email doesn't quite answer the mail but they're inundated with stuff there's a torrent of stuff and that's the difficulty and check to this evidence a collecting questions series of questions that senator holly was asking In my experience of watching congressional hearings. I have never seen questions of the either. Say the attorney general or fbi director or anyone involved in federal law enforcement about how they're collecting evidence in an ongoing criminal investigation that includes charges of conspiracy. I've never seen questions like that. Until the trump era when republicans started to ask them about investigations of donald and now as we saw today investigations of trump's supporters. That's right and by the way Senator holly made it sound as if the fbi was doing something sinister using a word. Like geo locating gosh. That's gotta be bad right lawrence. If you're geo locating what set the record straight here if the fbi is collecting information. They're doing it in lots of different ways all of which are lawful. It might be a through. A search warrant. Officer is by a judge based upon a showing of probable cause. It could be open source information right something that you are i or anybody else. Including an fbi agent could find in a social media platform or on the web. It could be through an administrative subpoena or a national security letter. There are so many different ways to get information including information from cell towers. What senator holly referred to his geo locating as long as they're doing it lawfully. I don't want them to do that. In a case this serious an investigation this widespread. So i share your curiosity as to why. This became a topic of interest for the senators. But i can assure you having worked there and my insurance isn't enough. But i can assure you that when they're gathering stuff they're doing it lawfully and that's what we ought to care about as citizens chuck rosenberg once again. Your experiences a federal prosecutor and working with the fbi has been invaluable to us. Thank you for joining us tonight. My pleasure coming up today in lawyer admitted on the record in the united states supreme court that republicans cannot win elections. If we count every vote cast by every legally registered voter. You'll cut y'all will join us next this morning. Stacey abrams tweeted this about vernon jordan. Who died last night morning. The passage of my friend the extraordinary for jordan he battled the demons of voter suppression on racial degradation winning more than he lost he brought others with him and left a map so so moore could find their way love to his family. Travel on with. God's grace burley ever is the widow of the assassinated civil rights leader. Medgar evers said today. Our nation has lost a hero vernon jordan the civil rights warrior presidential adviser former. Ceo of the united negro college fund former director of the national urban league was a close personal friend of my husband medgar of mine and of my children he medgar road through the back roads of mississippi investigating some of the most horrific violence against black mississippians when medgar was assassinated vernon came to offer comfort and support for our family vernon jordan's work was under review today and a hearing in the united states supreme court over a provision of the voting rights act of nineteen sixty five that prevents the quote. Denial or abridgement of the right of any citizen of the united states to vote on account of race or color. A new arizona law was under review by the supreme court. Today the law invalidates any ballot is cast in the wrong polling place even if it is an otherwise valid ballot from a legally registered. Voter a judge in the lower court that heard the case said minority voters. Were almost twice as likely to vote in the wrong precinct. As white voters because of quote frequent changes in polling locations confusing placement of polling locations and high rates of residential mobility justice. amy coney barrett asked the lawyer representing the arizona republican party. Why they would want to throw out legitimate ballots just because they were cast in the wrong precinct. And he all but said we have to throw out legitimate ballots on technicalities in order to win. What's the interest of the arizona are. Nc here in keeping say the out of precinct voter ballot disqualification rules on the bucks because it puts us at a competitive disadvantage relative to democrats politics zero sum game joining us now neil patel former acting us solicitor general in msnbc legal contributor nail. Various habit i never you could listen to supreme court arguments for a very very long time and not have someone admit guilt so clearly lawrence. I mean the fundamental question that has to be asked about the republican party which this lawyer represents is you know. Why is this party. So afraid of voters mean even fifteen years ago. Republicans weren't discovered. The voting rights act was passed in two thousand six unanimously in the senate. Now eight zero and now you have a party that when they're not pushing gerrymandering in the big. I third dead the pushing bill. After bill to try and restrict people from voting more than one hundred bills lawrence had been introduced just since november. I just really wish. Republicans brought the same energy dot. You know i don't know fighting. The coronavirus is due to depriving people. Have the right to vote. Let's listen what justice. Sonia sotomayor said today about denial of the right about it. You just can't build for those resources in your and your vote is not being counted. You've been denied the right to vote having to. I don't think anyone would say you've been denied due process rights. We hearing this not pass this. This is not a due process claim. I'm trying to get the distinction between well. No you're denying something if you're not giving The right to vote because or results in your denial from circumstances that the state could remedy easily. Neil denial of the right to vote by two. People who are legally registered to vote is what these laws are all about. One hundred percent lawrenson congress in nineteen sixty five passed the voting rights. Act to deal with this. In two different ways one was to say any bill that passes into law in one of the states that discriminate in the past couldn't get through couldn't take effect unless the justice department or court said it didn't discriminate. That piece of the law was struck down in two thousand thirteen by the supreme ordinance. Five to four decision called shelby county. That was the thing that really protected us. Then there was this other part section two which allows you to sue after the election basically or a deprivation of the right to vote and that's what the issue was in today's hearing and you know i think you just heard the lawyer for the republicans basically say this law should basically have no teeth to it and ran into hot water from even conservatives on the court i think everyone acknowledge that what the republicans were saying was. Contrary to the plain text of the law. He had a better argument when it comes to these specific arizona laws and so you know he may win the individual case at hand but what he was doing was really going for broke and trying to nullify the voting rights act. And that didn't go over so the court. We see a in our time. Stacey abrams today carrying on the work of vernon jordan of medgar evers and we had a reason to believe back on the voting rights. Act was first passed that a that so much work had. This was an achievement. This was done of the concept of reversal from that was inconceivable at the top. And you know the answers one name. You didn't mention. And i'm sure it was in the front of your mind as well. That's john lewis in right now. Heading in congress is the john lewis voting rights act which created a new pre clearance regime. That regime was telling you about the supreme court. Got rid of in two thousand in darning. We need it and this was something. That republicans democrats united hand in anthony. James sensenbrenner very republican member from wisconsin was the leader of this. And you know we have to get back to that and understand that. There's nothing more important. The american than the right to vote in right now. It's being deprived and that law has to be passed regardless of what happens in the supreme court case. Neal coty all thank you very much for joining us. Really appreciate you coming up another day of complete silence from the governor of new york be the subject of a sexual harassment. Investigation by new york attorney. General that's next afternoon. The new york state legislature revoked governor. Andrew cuomo's emergency powers to set state policy during the covid nineteen pandemic. The governor will no longer be able to make major policy changes without input from the legislature. Governor cuomo remained silent again today after last night's breaking news by the new york times of a third accusation of sexual harassment. The first two public accusations were from women who worked for the governor and involve the governor's conduct in the office and on the governor's playing the new accusation. Last night was from a third woman who met the governor at a wedding in september of two thousand nineteen and a rock told the new york times that the governor touched her back and held her face without her permission and asked if he could kiss her he said. Can i kiss you. Miss rock said. I felt so uncomfortable and embarrassed when really he is the one who should have been embarrassed. Frightened captured the exchange in a series of photographs taken on his rocks cellphone shaken. Ms rock said she later had to ask a friend. As mr cuomo lips had made contact with her face as she pulled away. The governor had kissed her cheek. She was told while the governor remained silent again today. Prominent members of new york's congressional delegation cannot escape questions about the governor talk it's called on cuomo allegations of sexual breath and you have issued a statement on this issue made play at these allegations are very serious against governor cuomo made by serious individuals and deserve serious and independent investigation. Now that the attorney general has taken over the investigation it will be fully independent and thorough. And i await the of that investigation. I if if governor cuomo steps aside during the attorney general's investigation then lieutenant governor. Kathy hokuto will be the acting governor over the weekend. Kathy hotel issued this statement. Everyone deserves to have their voice heard and taken seriously. I support an independent review and joining us. Now is matt slugging heimer politics reporter for the new york times. Who was co author of last night's breaking news report by the new york times on the governor situation Matt the the new york state democratic legislature both bodies legislature controlled by democrats increasing calls for the governor to resign from the democrats in the legislature. More democrats actually than republicans. Asking the governor to resign yet. You're seeing especially from sort of progressive weighing them of that legislature on folks who have had issues with nicole in the past certainly in recent weeks over his handling of nursing home issue during the covid. A really escalating calls over these last several days accusations of come in obviously we've heard some republicans as well but the progressives to look especially But there's also we should say Many many folks both in the congressional delegation to senators from new york. Us senators and several members of the legislature. Who have not said that new. Have sort of echoed. The line that we've heard from governor's office this investigation plays out Allies of christmas as well. Let's sort of let the facts come out as they will end not move in that direction of immediate resignation that some people are calling for already unmet. I wanna be a governor in what his response to this has been and just sequentially Lindsay boylan was the first public complainant against the governor. She wrote a piece online describing What happened to her saying that. The governor kissed her against her will The governor denied that and he denied everything in lindsay boylans report in its entirety as i believe but then charlotte bennett was the next a story to emerge in reporting in the new york times. The governor did not deny any of that and he has not denied any of what you reported last night. About what iraq has said. Is that correct he. He just denied that i report after. And then then. After the second report he issued a general kind of apology but not at the nile and no denial or apology after anoraks report. That's opposite sort of gone through A number of statements since saturday which was the reports from charlotte bennett her account of fan being sexually harassed a former executive assistant to him. The governor's office and she has not ever account in tested. All really other governor Out on sunday which is sort of a general apology if as he put it a sort of unwanted I should say any any sort of commentary in his was misinterpreted asia nans. You know that something people progressive side of legislature and others in a wholly insufficient from governor cuomo. And not the sort of apology. They hope to hear. Is there any indication from the governor's office when you will hear from him again. And when the public will hear from him again been staggering. As you mentioned. It's you know this is not a the governor cuomo. That new yorkers are accustomed to seeing somebody who has for a decade now had this sort of commanding presence a sort of ubiquity being out particularly there was an expectation with the anniversary of of covid one year anniversary that given his stature in that crisis on the democratic stardom bet is handling of that crisis at least initially propelled into that there would be a lot of public events marking the year from having fronts. The contrast to public statements being issued by his office about this policy of that over the last couple of days but no appearances by him in person has been a notable in staggering but flag flagging our. Thank you very much for joining us. And i really appreciate you coming up. Prison biden delivered the best news that we have heard since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic you are going to get vaccinated within a few months. You're going to get your life back. That's next today. President biden delivered the best news that we have had in the last year of the coronavirus pandemic if you have not been vaccinated already you and every adult you know. We'll be vaccinated in the next few months. President joe biden announced that the united states will produce enough vaccine for every adult in the country by the end of may two months sooner than previously expected to the largest healthcare and pharmaceutical companies in the world. That are usually competitors are working together on the vaccine. Johnson and johnson and merck work together to expand the production of johnson. And johnson's vaccine this type of collaboration between companies. We saw in world war two. We also invoked the defense production act to quip to merck facilities to the standards necessary to safely manufacture the jj vaccine. We're now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in america by the end of. May you are going to have a much safer summer than you did last year. But we still have to take some precautions. We are only forty. One days into joe biden suggested one hundred days of national mask wearing and the republican governors of texas and mississippi are now telling people to forget about masks. Today governor greg. Abbott of texas ended the mask mandate in that state and allowed opening businesses without capacity limits. Just moments later. Mississippi's republican governor tate. Reeves tweeted starting. Tomorrow we are lifting all of our county mask. Mandates and businesses will be able to operate at full capacity without any state imposed. Rules are hospitalizations. In case numbers have plummeted and the vaccine is being rapidly distributed. It is time. cdc director. Dr rochelle will unscathed warned. States that reopening too soon would threaten the progress. The united states has made clean here me clearly at this level of cases with variant spreading. We stand to completely lose the hard earned brown. We have gate. These variance are a very real threat to our people and our progress. Now is not the time to relax. The critical safeguards that we know can stop the spread of covid nineteen in our communities. Not when we are so close ch after a quick break. We'll be joined by dr rob davidson and eugene robinson and coming together to pass the american rescue plan. You brought the country this much closer to defeating this pandemic to restoring our economy and to getting us back to some semblance of normal joining us. Now dr rob davidson an emergency room physician in west michigan. He's the executive director of the committee to protect medicare also this eugene robinson associate editor and pulitzer prize winning columnist for the washington post. He is in msnbc political analyst. And jean i just want to begin with the politics of the moment. This is a president who was a presidential promise to deliver the hundred doses of vaccine in the first hundred days of the biden harris administration is over delivering on that. They're delivering faster than they said they would. And now they are delivering vaccine faster in total for the full adult population in the country. Faster than planned. That's right Under promise and over deliver that's what the by administration has been doing and where we've now reached a point finally where Just anecdotally. But i think that the data bears it out. Vaccines are just are are getting out. There they're coming out where smoothly the processes running more smoothly Sixty five overs. Most places either have have had their their phone to shot. That's a nation or one shot or have appointments Starting to some states are starting to move to to to lower categories on the priority list. It it is happening. And and it is you know it's gotta be politically good For president biden on the other hand. I think Governors of texas and mississippi. Think what they're doing. Which is irresponsible and could set us back Also as politically advantageous to them. Because they they think that what's popular among republicans now aside from donald trump doesn't really take you very far is is being irresponsible on coke but and just an opening things up and and dissing the scientists and and that's what they're doing so doctrines and we all now know that we are going to get the vaccine. We the adult population of the united states. They are continuing a testing on the younger than adult age. Kids teenagers and children. They're still testing for pregnant women. For example but given that we are going to get all teachers vaccinated. That's no longer controversial question. We're going to get the entire population vaccinated. Where do you think we're gonna be this summer in dealing with covid nineteen. I think the possibilities are amazing. I think it a lot of it. Depends on what we do as we're ramping up getting these vaccines produced. We still have to get them at arms. We need the american rescue plan to be passed. We need money for states. We have our legislature in michigan holding up five billion dollars because they're having political fights with governor whitmer and we need states like texas and mississippi not to relax these restrictions. We know the more. The virus spreads the more we have variants the higher the risk that wanted these variants can invade or at least kind of sidestep the vaccines. We have and make it more challenging. So it's not just tough for texans. It's potentially tough all of us but if we all work together yeah. This is enormous the huge. And frankly a you can feel it. People come in into the are telling me they just got their shot. It was running through my neighborhood in a neighbor. I hadn't seen all winter yelled out and said i'm getting my shot tomorrow. There is a rational exuberance over. What's going on and we just have to hold tight for a few more months. You get there gene. I think we all see a lot of exclamation points when we get texts from people who are just got an appointment for a vaccine and gene. The doctor makes a good point of so the bite administration has done everything they can to get the vaccine itself produced and ready but the biden covert relief. Bill is contains necessary provisions for getting these vaccines injected getting these vaccines delivered into the into people's arms. There's all sorts of funding in there to get that. Done your bright. The various is orange and also altered to or other necessary things. So just pass it. I mean tim. it's never just need to pass it and it would be great if some republicans to be brought on board But it needs to pass. And what's what's in that. Bill is not only unnecessary but popular And i think it it's a political plus For democrats are just to do it. Went through reconciliation do only with democratic votes plus carmel harrison. The senate if you need to But get it. That's the that's the most important thing. And i think they're determined to do that. It sounds like that is the way it's going to go. Let's listen to what the vice president had to say to house democrats. Today we continue to remind the american people of how important it is to mask up. Yes real leaders agree. People still need to mask up and stay distanced. And i guess the point that i'm making on that given the news that we heard today is the significance of you as national leaders. You represent your constituents in your district but you also represent the country davidson such a striking difference between democrats republicans on this Democrat like vice president. Who's part of delivering the vaccine to people that is going to save their lives is still telling them to mask op and republicans. We see these. Republican governors seemed to believe that the political profit for them the first political profit they can get is by being the first person to tell people to take their masks off. Yeah i mean we just need to get the politics out of this and we played this game before we played this game all less. You're a half a million people are now dead from the. So you know we to get these folks away from these short-term political winds where they think that it's gonna make their constituents happy and they have to listen to the science know for cancer patients in the hospital in their on college elsom. Scans look good. We got a few more months left. And we can really nip this thing. They don't rip the run out of the hospital. They stay through the treatment. They get it done at. This is what we have to do. I just hope these governors come around eventually. Maybe they'll get some calls from some other. Governors of the president urged them to do. What's right dr rob davidson. Thank you for work. Even go ahead. Go ahead laura. I just wanted to point out one thing. Texas the second most populous state in the nation. So what happens in texas does not stay in texas land. I possibly a though it does affect the rest of us. Were trying to do the right thing. Very good point. I'm glad you got that. In their eugene robinson dr rob davidson. Thank you both for joining us tonight. That is tonight's last word. And i want to join rachel in saying thank you for making msnbc. The most watched network in all of cable tv.

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"From npr and wbz. You're peter o'dowd and i'm tanya moseley it's here and now calls for new york governor. Andrew cuomo to resign are growing louder. The new york state assembly democrats are meeting today to discuss next steps and this is after. A six woman has come forward this week accusing him of sexual misconduct. The anonymous woman works for cuomo and says she was aggressively groped late last year. And the governor's mansion. Let's bring in w amc's news director in pickus in albany for more hayyan. Hi thanks for having me. Yes thank you for being here. So what's the latest. You're hearing from state lawmakers today well the minority republicans in the state legislature are pretty unified. That cuomo should resign or face. Impeachment a new development today was that the assembly speaker carl hasty lebron's democrat said that the caucus the democratic caucus would be meeting today to discuss next possible paths forward. Hasty had fallen short of calling cuomo to resign outright on sunday and a in a statement Today that ground may be shifting. A little bit and caucuses now discussing the possibility of impeachment of calling on cuomo to resign outright or a new third way that we've heard today which is maybe cuomo would step back for a while and lieutenant governor would take over a while. The investigation plays out interesting. I want to get to all of those points with you. But first let's go through this latest gatien It's one of the most serious against cuomo. Tell us more about it. It is cuomo had been accused of misconduct may be some misbehavior earlier. The times union newspaper here in albany reported that an unnamed a woman had come forward. She was in the governor and alleged that she was summoned to the executive mansion. Late last year where the governor native physical pass at her groped her under her shirt on the pretense of having been called over there to help the governor where the cell phone now. That report broke Another cuomo accuser charlotte bennett's attorney released a statement saying those details. Were very similar to what charlotte bennett had experienced Being called to help the governor in a one on one setting now the identity of that latest accuser has not been made public yet and the governor says that the allegations are gut wrenching but has not otherwise address them. Okay so yeah mentioned that all of these allegations are gut wrenching. But has he responded specifically to this latest allegation. The timing of this is very interesting. He did do a conference call with reporters earlier in the week. When he said that he was not aware of the new accusation it turns out according to the newspaper that This was made a public at least within. The governor's office may be around march third. The governor did release a statement to the newspaper saying that the investigation should be Taking a look at that latest allegation He says that he has never touched anybody inappropriately and he has repeated that and you repeated that on the conference call with reporters This week although the timing of this latest accusation and when the governor was made aware of it is still on clear. Okay so what would happen. Should cuomo resign or be removed by an impeachment process. Who's next in line role. It's a bit of a uncharted waters. Unless you're around in nineteen thirteen when governor soldier was impeached. The last on your governor to be impeached. It's a very complicated process in new york The short answer is the next in line. Would be lieutenant governor. Kathy hokkaido a democrat from the buffalo area. She previously served in congress and she's been keeping up a number of events this week although notably hasn't taken many questions She also released a statement earlier in this latest controversy saying that the investigation should go forward. The claims were serious but other than that. She has not publicly called on cuomo to go or given any extended interviews in recent days. Okay i have less than a minute with you. But what about public sentiment. How are new york residents feeling about their governor right now it's interesting a quinnipiac poll earlier In recent days found that a majority of new yorkers don't want to see cuomo seek a fourth term which has long been. A goal of the governor's would eclipse his father. Mario cuomo short at three a slightly smaller majority also didn't want to see him resign. However that poll was taken before this latest accusation. Which as you say is the first one. Alleging a physical Interaction between the governor and eight. That's an pickus. W amc's news director in albany new york. Thank you so much for this update. Thank you for having me. A growing number of states are expanding corona virus vaccine eligibility starting on monday. All texans over the age of fifty can get a shot in on that same day in georgia. Anyone over fifty five bus people. Sixteen and older with serious. Medical conditions will qualify. The state of alaska has gone even further. This week it became the first state to make shots available to anyone over sixteen years old. Joining us now is tessa walker lindemann. She's a nurse and co leader of the alaska. Vaccine taskforce tessa. Welcome to here now. Thanks for having me and the first question is how. And why have you been able to do this well. There's a lot of different factors that played into this decision but ultimately we have just seen a lot of alaskans very interested in getting vaccinated and so we that we had enough vaccine that we would were able to open up to sixteen and older and as we work through the different. I'm eligibility criteria. That we had we felt that it was becoming a barrier to people being able to get vaccinated the language confusing and ultimately we just want people to get vaccinated and so we decided to open it up and have been really thrilled to see alaskan signing up and getting vaccinated quickly will. Did you notice that some of your appointments that you had slotted. We're going on filled. We did see that. We had opened up pretty broadly last week and just felt that our eligibility language was maybe a bit confusing. And so we always felt that many alaskans were eligible. They weren't sure if they were and so really by opening it up just elevated that barrier. We're are seeing additional points being added regularly as well with as production of vaccine ramps up as well. We're receiving more and more vaccine. It has been just over a little more than a day now. But what's the response been so for are you seeing a rush of young people coming forward to get vaccinated we are. We're really seeing all types of per a lot of people all ages but certainly receiving on young people are very grateful for for those that have impatiently waiting and i think You know until we open it up. Where bradley even people that were eligible fouts that they should wait until the most people still could get back some even though they were already eligible. And so you know we are just really grateful to be able to open it up to a tabby. He's i think we've we have spent quite a bit of time really. I'm trying to reach those vulnerable and really with thrilled went on with the the number of people sixty five and older that had been vaccinated so being able to open up to everyone now just really helps keep the protection. I'm widely statewide. Let's if we can kind of dig into to why alaska has been so successful here. A quarter of the people in your state have received at least one vaccine does. That's one of the best vaccination rates in the country. And i also understand that alaskan native groups have been really good really effective at getting shots out. How big of a role has that played in your success. I think i think it's a huge role and i'm success. I we have partnered with alaska. Neutral consortium Really since late summer the tribes had a choice to to receive their vaccine through. Hsa or have come through the state and the tribes in alaska did choose to have their vaccine. Come through the state and so it's really been a joint distribution effort. Explain that more. Because i mean anyone who knows alaska knows it is incredibly rural and that is an understatement. How do you get those vaccines out to places where you have to take an airplane and then you have to probably take a snow machine out even further to get to certain villages. How do that well. I think there's there's lots of different ways as happening. I will say that. I do think another part of our success is that we are You know state waiting musician program day in and day out no regardless of covert or not and so are any. Our program has Certainly is a well oiled machine at this point. And so getting maxine out rurally is something that they have to do in regular time. I'm in alaska on. Most of the healthcare is our health system and so we get the Acting out to the hubs and then they have their distributions instead of. That's how they get their healthier outs to these rural areas normally and so you know certainly small small planes snow machines. I mean others. there's certainly float planes very rides. We've had a vaccine out in so many different ways but it's really based on the backbone of art immunization program that set up the system. Alaska relies on seasonal workforce for its tourism industry which has bid there in the state. Are you concerned by expanding eligibility here. That people are going to rush in from out of state to get these shots were. We're really putting a big focused emphasis that this accident is for alaskans people living and working alaska and so we do really ask that people. Honor that you know. I think it's because we are a bit isolated. Takes a little bit of effort. Get out here. It's not that you drive. Drive across state landed and sign up for her appointments may be an issue but we are really trust seeing that people will do the right thing and our system so far has been a rematch. Much an honor system and you really have seen that people are are following that and we'll continue this distressing tessa walker lindgren is co leader. The lasca vaccine taskforce. Thank you very much for your time. And congratulations on that success. Much today is march eleventh. And we're going to go back in time back to this day. Last year the day the nba decided to suspend its games and later the entire season the day the pandemic became real rudy. Gobert has tested positive for the corona virus starting tomorrow. Nba play suspended. This is the last night of nba games for the foreseeable future. That clip is from. Espn's new thirty for thirty. Podcasts athlete called march eleventh. Which takes us through the realities through the lens of basketball. How we woke up on march eleventh to one reality and by the end of the day we had all become aware that another reality lay before us joining us now. Is julia lori henderson. She's a senior editorial producer for thirty for thirty podcasts. And she joins us now julia. Welcome thank you so much for having me. Yes so thirty for thirty. It is known for its in depth documentaries about sports and sports figures this podcast in particular interweaving the experiences of a vast number of people that day leading us to an nba game and that was scheduled to happen that evening. You could have focused solely on the nba. But you decided to take us on a journey through the day. How did you decide to take that approach. When this idea of sort of i came to fruition last summer. I was talking to ramona shelburne. Who obviously covers the nba for espn. She was the one who sorta. I imparted on me. Like this day this day. This was a turning point. I became really fascinated by what we were waking up to you in that morning. What were the headlines. What were the stories that were supposed to be important. That ended up being a clip st- by the pandemic declaration and then the suspension of the nba season and really a whole new reality setting in joe biden in this morning. Says he's unstoppable or good wednesday to you here. We go again with another warm day. Slated across portions of the southern united states dual russian prankster. Say they do. Prince harry into believing he was on the phone with climate activists greenwich tune and her father studying. Twist on the grand finale. Of the bachelor there julia. What voices in this podcast. Stand out to you. I mean. I'm so thrilled that we got to talk to dr fauci. It's not often that someone. Like dr fauci also touches on a sports story But it was so fascinating to to hear his story of the day to watch how quickly that all progressed. And there's something so human about the way he tells it and you know when he gets home and he's watching the presidential address on tv if build important to us to be able to hear that voice into have that side of the pandemic unfurling helped and reviewing the speech. And i got home essentially just in time but the adrenaline the energy of having gone head to head with the president having helped with the editing of the speech my wife put together some food and a glass of beer i remember. It was lugging and down. I watched the speech my fellow americans tonight. I want to speak with you about our nation's unprecedented response to the corona outbreak that started in china and is now spreading throughout the world. The president's speech was something everyone watched. But the real drama of this new podcast takes place behind the scenes before the nba game in oklahoma city. This is where producer julia lori henderson picks up the story. The nba has some protocols in place. The utah jazz arrive in the city the night before they've two players who don't feel well. Those players are put into quarantine and the team the nba no and contacts local public health officials emmanuel moody eight his tests. I'll come back. He has the flu so they know what he has. They can deal with that rudy. Gobert test all come back. Negative which triggers the next step which is get him. A virus test was in my hotel room in oklahoma city. I was getting ready to watch my team. Play against the tender and the when i saw at Some doctors on the flow and and stop the game. That's what i knew that something was going on. And i mean that wasn't nevis to to get the car and two seconds. They got the call from from the china. This positive moment in time how you know we thought there were these precautions. Even the mba thought. There were precautions and they were ahead of most. You know there was distance between reporters and the players and reporters weren't allowed back into the locker rooms and all of these new things were in place that were you know. We thought hoped were enough because we understood so let all But in hindsight like they were nowhere near enough word of go- bears positive test came back about ten minutes before the thunder jazz game was about to tip off and that triggered a series of rapid fire conversations between health officials. Thunder owner clay bennett. An oklahoma governor kevin stood was actually in the arena for the game boy. I went out and sat on the front row there at his normal seats and we're waiting for the entertainment to finish and wait for the announcement. I remember looking over at clay. And i was with my son and and he was sitting there next to his wife and i could just see his face he was just. He didn't want to disappoint fans and let us fans leave. I remember his wife was kinda rubbing his back and he's going to be okay to her husband and he was very somber in the moment. The announcement of course was that the game would not be played and back at espn host. Scott van pelt and his crew scrambled to report the news and respond. There's a moment where you in your ear. Your producer says the nba. Just just suspended. The season to season is suspended. is gonna join us in your in your head. You're hearing that and you're going way. What decision was just the start. Unprecedented day in the world of sports. The corona virus outbreak bringing nearly every major sport or sporting events in the nhl has suspended its season the nfl has cancelled the atp announced a six week. Suspend major league soccer is suspending. Its entire mlb is expected to announce today they will be suspending. All is indeed cancelling the men's and women's basketball term. it will not both boned. It will not happen this year. March eleventh twenty twenty was the beginning of a new reality for everything including sports. Here's a reflection from reporter. Tom rinaldi right or wrong. Sports have an ability to spark national conversation in ways that some others institutions no longer can or may never have. We'd look to sports for something. Sometimes it's distraction. Sometimes it's passion but sometimes it's leadership that's what the nba provided in this one moment when you look at this night. That is what the nba dead. They were the first to address this pandemic had on. They were faced with a positive test and they made a bold decision and they did it knowing it would have huge repercussions for them for all other sports and ultimately a lot of us took our cue about how series was based on what the nba did julia lori. Henderson is senior editorial producer for. Espn's thirty for thirty podcast which includes the new episode march eleventh twenty. Twenty julie thank you so much for talking with us about this. Thank you so much for having me. Listeners have been answering our call for reflections on surviving one year of the pandemic and we are amazed at the variety of responses. You've been telling us that you're spending more time in nature with your kids at home and you're also reminiscent about the last big celebrations with friends. Birthday parties weddings and recalling personal experiences with the disease itself. It's also clear that many people are experiencing moments of loneliness after spending months apart from their loved. Ones here in our producer. Sam ralston can relate to that. Here are some thoughts. The moment i realized that my whole life was going to change was around this time. Last year was march twelfth And it was my last day at work. I'm twenty eight. I'm living the single life in dc working at npr. Everything's great and covert happens. And i realized that. Oh my god there really is a deadly respiratory virus going around and this is my worst fear realize and even though i lived alone at the time and i felt like you know my whole world was being flipped upside down and i thought you know this is it. I'm truly alone. i don't have anyone. I realized quickly in the first couple of weeks of lockdown. That wasn't true. All my friends rallied around me. Virtually of course to tell me that everything was going to be okay and my perspective on life changed. While i was afraid of the virus. I think at the same time i was no longer living in fear of the future. I was excited for it. And i wanted to be here for as someone who's very anxious person very pessimistic and sometimes it's easy to think that things aren't going to turn out the way you wanted to but even while the world was collapsing around me i found myself feeling much more optimistic about where things were going and i think that's because of all the support i had and i realized even in those early days of covid you know walking into my studio apartment thinking that i was alone. I realized that dad couldn't be further from the truth. Sam we may be all remote but it is true you are not alone. That was our producer samuelson and now we want to hear from you. What are you thinking about. One year after the pandemic began. How have you come together with others to persevere. Let us know by sending us an email to letters at here now dot com support for here and now and the following message come from zuhdi. Why spent months coating when you can build powerful customized applications in days zuhdi offers an affordable solution to build apps for your business apps that integrate into all your current systems and data sources and you're zuhdi subscription always includes unlimited apps and unlimited users. Learn more at zuhdi dot com a neuroscientist. Kimberly noble wants to know if a family gets more money that directly impact children's cognitive developments ideas about the brain. That's on the ted radio hour from npr. Health insurance is about to get cheaper for millions of americans who by their health care through the affordable care. Act the new coronavirus relief. Bill will expand tax credits for those buyers making their insurance less expensive for a while. At least let's bring in migrating and senior editor for bloomberg news. Mike hi peter so this is going to allow more americans to qualify for subsidies when they buy health insurance on obamacare exchanges. Could you explain more how this works right. So the subsidies that currently exist Sort of phase out as incomes go higher and they stopped completely for people who make more than four hundred percent of the federal poverty level which is about fifty one thousand dollars a year for an individual so what this does is for one thing it increases subsidies for people at very low incomes a love better below that threshold but it also allows people who make of that one hundred percent of the poverty level it allows them to get some subsidies in the form of tax credits that will allow them to pay for their health insurance through the obamacare marketplace. How much are we talking about it quite a bit. In some cases the congressional budget office gives the pumps for samples To one of the most extremes they say For example if you're sixty four years old and you make about fifty eight thousand dollars a year. I hop insurance premium is about thirteen thousand dollars a year and are currently not eligible for any subsidies But this plan get a subsidy of almost eight thousand dollars a year which would bring down your healthcare costs for thirteen thousand below. Five thousand dollars were extreme examples but then it goes to show the type of people that will greatly benefit from this. That is pretty good now. The cbo also says the changes will cost about thirty four billion dollars in cover. Approximately one point three million more americans. But it's only mike according to this law going to last for two years. So so what do you think. I just wonder if there's going to be pressure then at the when it expires to keep it permanent. Yeah could on. How many people take advantage of this How well the public educated about this And ultimately all came on who controls congress like we after the term Election next year and sort of what the economic environment is and and what the political tone at that time so very much As a set elsewhere health so much on the phallic eternal weapons against the boy. You make a good point because former president donald trump tried to dismantle the affordable care act for essentially all four years. He was in office in now. Joe biden who of course was in the obama administration is trying to build it back up again. So so what do you think. I mean this could mean something significant for the future of the law. I think it essentially could i think the more people who actually take part in obamacare health plan and he's exchanges to get their health insurance the more people that are involved in it I think the harder it's going to be to actually eliminate it Historically it has been a favorable program. I as far as the public polling so the more people involved were benefiting from it. And i think the harder it's been be. It's actually eliminated and just briefly. Mike do you know how people can find out if they qualify for some of these expanded tax credits or subsidies. So a lot of the information i got from the cb does of website Joe biden is giving a speech tonight on the entire stimulus package. And i imagine it'll be sort of key our educational campaign about this being rolled out after that like reagan senior editor for bloomberg news. Thank you so much with a country singer. Brooke eden is in love and she wants the world to know the tune year hearing is her new single sunroof which eden describes as the promise of spring and summer after a cold winter and we experienced that in her new music video as she and her partner take a joy ride in a candy apple colored mustang with palm trees and a beach in the background. It also reflects a part of her life as lgbtq woman that she was forced to stay silent about until now brooke eden. Welcome to here. Now thank you so much great to be here great to have you so this song sun roof is about your relationship with your partner of five years. Hillary a promotions director at your record label. Was it love at first sight. I think that it was the most love at first sight that i could have ever imagined. I didn't believe in love at first sight but it was just this overwhelming feeling of peace like i exhaled and that was about as close to love it for status. I've ever felt absolutely an and weeks after you to started dating. You broke this news to some industry folks and some people on your team as well and that response wasn't what you hoped it wasn't and actually i didn't even get to break the news. I don't know if it was our chemistry. I've not really sure. But they found out before we could tell them which was even worse. It was just the beginning. And we're trying to figure out you know what we're gonna do this. And that was really difficult because they basically told us. If you wanna keep your career you need to keep this relationship hidden and that was so it was just the hardest thing that someone ever not have to go through right. As as both a person and an artist they're basically telling you to to suppress who you are absolutely and this secrecy was not only threatening your relationship but it also threaten your health. Yeah i got really sick and a about maybe two years into our relationship. I was getting really sick before my shows. And i just didn't understand what was happening. The doctors didn't know what was happening. And finally they found out that. I had ulcers in my small intestine and the only way that i could get rid of. Those ulcers was by getting off of the road taking really good care of myself and my body had to heal them. There was no magic pill to help to make them go away. So yeah. I mean when you're supressing something that's such a huge part of who you are and this is no normal love. I mean this is the love of my life and our love meant so much to me and with such a huge part of who i was and just battling that up every single day. I definitely think that beckon caused health issues. And it's it's not healthy for your physical being your emotional being or your mental being. This is the point where you decide it. I've got to be true to myself and live my truth. What what was the response to that. I mean i know that for you personally. It felt liberating. But what about for those around you for the most part. I got a lot of love because that was a few years in. When are decided that we just couldn't do this anymore. And after that point. I think everyone knew this is no quote unquote phase. This is not two girls just having a good time. These are two humans who are madly in love with each other. And anyone around us. Who couldn't see that. I was just kind of like you. Gotta go anyways. If you can't see that this is love then. I don't know how to show it to you. You've been speaking pretty candidly about this for for a little while. Now how your fans responded. It's been incredible. I mean hillary has gotten so many front requests on social media. Because yes because you know. I think they realized she such a huge part of me. And there's a lot of new fans who see themselves in our relationship but you know of course you have people who tried to hide their homophobia behind bible verses and that's really hard. I grew up in a a very religious household. I went to a baptist school for ten years of my life and i grew around that same hatred that i do not believe is god i think that god is love and i think that humans have interpreted his word in a really messed up on healthy way but van there are just some people out there who are so unhappy and not even mad at them. I'm just sad for them Well this brings us to country music culture. Can we talk about that for a moment. You know earlier this year. Tj osborne the lead vocalist for the country duo brothers. Osborne came out publicly and fans largely seemed to embrace him. But then there's something else. Tmz published this video of one of country's biggest stars. Morgan wallin using the n. Word while outside of his home and his label and talent agency dropped him. His music was suspended and he's since apologized but his digital sales soared as fans bought his music out of protest. What do these events to you say about the culture of country music right now. I mean it's so hard because before. All the morgan stuff started to happen. I was seeing such a beautiful trajectory of where our gina was going. One of my best friends in nashville is mickey guidon. Who's a black female artist. And she put out this music last year. One of her songs is called black like me and it's just the honesty with in being a black woman in america and she's grammy nominated in the country music genre. She has gotten. I always tell her. She lives in la right now. And i'm like mickey you are the queen of nashville. You don't realize this because you don't get to see all the billboards as you're driving down the nashville roads. But there's a lot of black artists that are coming to the forefront and getting a lot of attention and a lot of praise and a lot of support. Yes did you kind of see this as like two steps forward one step back. I mean it's sort of the country. Music industry is moving in a direction of being more inclusive. But maybe they're still work to do. Oh one hundred percent yes. I definitely think it's two steps forward and one step back. And i just don't understand because morgan. He's he's had a few spouts even before he said that in word that were just bad spouse and he has said to his fans like. I need this time to better myself as a human and they just keep on buying the records. And so i don't i don't understand it i really don't understand it but i do know that we're going in a better direction. It's just slowly. Will your fans are telling you so. I mean there's so many things online where folks we're reading are saying. Oh you know. I see myself in brooke. It's because of brooke that now. I can speak my truth and live proud. What is your advice for aspiring country artists who love the medium. They love this music. They want to be a part of it but they may not fit in the traditional mold. Our just say gotta keep on being you slowly but surely there's not gonna be a traditional mo- mold anymore. Were creating this space. That is open and free for everyone. And you just have to keep on doing you and putting your foot down and saying this is who i am and like. I've learned it took five years but people will start to realize that authenticity is key. And as long as you're being yourself that's when people are going to start to embrace you is when you just be you owe brought thank you so much for this conversation. Oh my gosh thank you also your voices just so calming. I just want to listen to you all day long. Well you can listen to me. And i can listen to your music. Wow thank you. Brooke eden is a country music singer. Who is now sharing her love story with country music fans in the world through her music brooke was kind enough to give us a taste of her. Upcoming single. got no choice which will be out soon. Every year between fifteen and thirty two million metric tons of rock salt or used to clear snow and ice from the nation's roads thing is all that salt doesn't stay on the roads spring rains which are on the way for many parts of the country. Eventually wash the salt into rivers and streams that can quickly destroy freshwater ecosystems jesse remedios from member station w. b. u. r. Explains why this problem has no easy fix three story. Tall gate creeks open and reveals a warehouse filled to the brim with light brown crystals. It's a mountain of rock salt. We filled the show this past week. Tj shea is some might call a snow fighter. He's the superintendent of streets in cambridge massachusetts. And it's his job to keep roads dry and safe all winter long using this salt at the city's public works facility. There's more than a thousand tons of it here equal in weight to about nine blue whales but shea says during a typical new england winter. It won't last long. No this is a couple of storms worth you know. Depending on the event and the duration that's a lot of salt and by the end of the season almost all of it will end up in rivers and streams and here. I would have known that many years ago. That's andy. Her cinna a scientist with the mystic river watershed association. He says road salt has toxic effects on freshwater ecosystems. It's been known to kill plants and animals in places like wisconsin illinois and colorado. Today he stands beneath a busy bridge on the snowy banks of alewife brook near cambridge. The waterway flows into the mystic river. And then boston harbor. He's doing what he calls. Gorilla water quality monitoring theft personnels cinderblock connected to a digital water testing device. Out of this dream a little heavy. He hooks up to his laptop. There's an obstacle court on this thing and checks out a graph that spit out almost immediately. You can see this spike in the black lines. The spike shows a huge rise in salt levels over the past two days. Thanks to a rainy day earlier in the week that washed all the nearby road. Salt into the brook. Her senate has tracked salt levels here for a year now and this is just another data point that he hopes will spark an important conversation. Can we reduce in some smart collective way use of road salt. Richard chase works with the massachusetts department of environmental protection. He says we've known about the problem for more than a decade. Now and salt reduction is a significant concern anywhere. There is snow and ice. Not just because of salts impacts on aquatic plants and animals but also because it can wind up in drinking water. It's a problem that doesn't have easy solutions. It's it's not going away. We need to have safe. Roads policy specialists kathrin lang was massive rivers. Alliance explains why. There's no quick fix. We don't have like an alternative that. That's that's fantastic and then we can use it scale. I think pilots are like a great option pilot programs like one in cambridge that you just mix of water and salt purified in the sun. Instead of that mountain of rock salt mentioned earlier we are saving salt. Were saving resources worth saving our environment. That's tj shea again. The snow fighter shot stores his brian in massive water tanks just outside the rock salt warehouse. Brian works the same way as the rock. Salt trucks poured on the road before storm an melt snow as it hits the ground but brian uses a quarter less salt than the standard rock salt. That's a big environmental benefit and it's obviously a lot cheaper of a product. We make ourselves so the savings that way shea started using brian in two thousand nineteen after seeing it in nearby towns. A rural county in wisconsin has also experimented with liquid cheese brine to de ice roadways vermont's transportation agency also uses liquid salt this year shady a third of streets in cambridge using his salt and water mixture. He hopes to raise that number to one hundred percent but he needs more trucks equipped to spray the brian until then when the snow falls residents will continue to hear the familiar crunch of salt on a hard surface for here. Now i'm gesturing radius. You're a now is a production of npr and w. b. u. r. in association with the bbc. World service. i'm peter o'dowd and i'm tiny moseley. This is here now

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Ep. 1205 - The End For Cuomo?

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Ep. 1205 - The End For Cuomo?

"Andrew cuomo runs into the metoo. Buzzsaw trump returns at cpac. And the next superman reboot. We'll be written by a guy who thinks america is racist. I'm ben shapiro. This is the ben shapiro show today. Show is sponsored by express vpn. I protect my data with vpn. So should you visit express. Vpn dot com slash ben. All right. we'll get to all the news in just one moment. First reminder we are now at the mercy of one party control agenda driven by tax and spend economics get into the social ramifications of course but fiscally you can expect compounded growth of the national debt and eventually the systemic valuation of the dollar. See you need to diversify out of cash. Cash is not the best place to hold your assets. And you wanna make sure that you're not in something completely volatile you be diversified out of stocks. Cause yes dr great but you wanna make sure you have some money in an asset that has never been worth zero. I'm talking of course about precious metals. 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All it took was the election. Must be frank about this if it had not been for donald trump losing the election andrew cuomo would still be riding high in new york because the media decided for months and months and months they were not going to cover any bad allegations about andrew. Cuomo we knew as early as may of last year then cuomo was covering up nursing home deaths and the people who are now coming forward and suggesting that andrew cuomo sexually harassed them or sexually assaulted them in some way. All of those people knew what they knew last year now. I don't know whether them coming out is political when i do know. Is that the media's interest in these sorts of stories only started to crop up bizarrely around the time of the election. It was really only after really after the inauguration then it was like the media they said you know. We don't need this guy anymore right before we needed this cuomo guy because he was going to be kept in contrast with the trumpy horrible republicans and this is why they always drew this sort of good angel bad angel on your shoulder routine or the good angel for some odd reason was andrew cuomo evil. Angel was rhonda. Santa sang things like freedom and go back to school and have an rubbing no. We should never go back to school and it was like no you should. You should one hundred back to school. You should one hundred percent have some freedoms you should have your business open. But andrew cuomo was here of the day. Well now all of it is coming apart. And it's coming apart awful fast friendly cuomo. Because here's the thing. Revolutionary stones have friends. They just have tools. Andrew cuomo was a tool and he still tool but a different kind of tool. Now so here is the latest from the case on new york governor andrew cuomo branded as a matter as the democrats man inquiry after sex pest allegations by second staffer according to the uk on other leading democrat women have turned on the new york governor and madden inquiry into the abhorrence and heartbreaking allegations. Cuomo who denies wrongdoing said. He had been asked that he had asked clinton appointed federal judge. Barbara jones to examine claims by two staffers original. He said you know what. Why don't we have like a an internal investigation where we'll have some of my friends do an investigation and people like not not gonna work and he released a statement saying these things i deny them but we should have investigation then. He released a second statement. That was the the chain of events over the course of the weekend last night. charlotte bennett. Twenty five claims for sixty three year old boss quizzed her about her sex life after she went him for help as a survivor of sexual assault. Which is very not good. She told the new york times. Cuomo astros monogamous in her relationships and if she ever had sex with older men. First of all i i will never to the day i die understand. Some of the mating habits of typical of eric in mail won't way how many scandals have you seen guys will send pictures of their genitals to women in the somehow mistaken belief that this is attractive to women like has. This line never worked as andrew. Komo's line of work ever walked up a twenty year old girl and been like you know what darwin you ever have sex with older men and it's just it's just the guy from airplane asking young boys with gladiator movies. Apparently she said i understood. The governor wanted to sleep with me and felt horribly uncomfortable and scared and was wondering how it's going to get out of it and assumed it was the end my job charlotte's claim three days after another ex aid lindsey boylan clam cuomo kissed her on the lips and suggested that they play strip poker. Senior newark democrats remains tight-lipped after the first round of allegations on wednesday last night cuomo's dealt a crushing blow in his own. Deputy and other members of his party appeared to turn their backs on him. Which you knew was coming right. He is no longer useful to the party. This is a political calculation for democrats. Is the person useful enough the you keep them in office knowing that they did all these bad things are al. Franken was not useful enough so al franken went way of the dodo bird but andrew cuomo is kind of useful so he's sort of ignored all this stuff. Ted kennedy was useful for decades said kept propping up. Bill clinton was useful until he was no longer useful. And that's that's andrew cuomo. He was useful until he was no longer useful now. Lieutenant governor kathy hobo called for an independent review into the allegations quote. Everyone deserves have their voice heard and taken seriously. I'm tara reade. Remember that lady who alleged that Joe biden had sexually assaulted her. Yeah yet you haven't heard about her in a while have you. Because joe biden is still useful. I guarantee you that. If joe biden had lost the election those allegations would be coming back up right now. Senate leader andrea stewart. Cousins called the new allegations deeply disturbing and concerning said the behavior has no place in the workplace. She also calls by republicans for the g to take over the probe. Of course letitia. James who decided to unleash the beast on andrew cuomo. But she's the person who came out earlier this year and said hey by the way. Weren't you covering up those nursing. Home numbers letitia james it. It'd be hard for me to imagine. She does not have her eye on the new york governor spot because the new york. Ag very often has their eye on the new. York governor's new york city. Mayoral milo. my wiley said i'm disgusted. I believe charlotte bennett. It's always fun when democrats are held to account by their own standards. This is the way that this works when they believe all women and then a woman comes forward. Alleging something about a democrat. Then they have to either pretend the woman doesn't exist or they have to believe all women now if the person's useful they pretend the woman doesn't exist retiree just doesn't exist but if the woman is is of us then they will say that that you ought to be believed according to my wiley senior officials. In the governor's office were aware of his behavior. What happens these complaints. Why was no further action taken. How many times has this happened. State senator allesandro biaggi tweeted bluntly new york governor. Cuomo remonstrate is time for you to go right now. Now again some of this has to do with the newark. Democrats just not liking andrew a very unpopular figure with fellow new york democrats. He treats them with disdain he because his father was a very very popular diet new york. Marya people he. He's able to live off the back of that. But nobody actually likes andrew cuomo if you talk to any politician democrat or republican in new york. They think he's a bully and braggart and a jackass. Everyone in new york thanks. That's if you're in new york politics so now they finally have the shot and they're gonna take it now. Here's my standard due process rights. The same standard that held for brad. Kavanagh hold the for joe biden as well hold the for donald trump. There's a due process of law. You bring evidence of these allegations whatever evidence you have to back them up and then we have to do to kate whether we think that these events actually happened stated or not at that is the. That's is how these things work but andrew cuomo didn't hold that standard. He said that there was enough evidence. That brett cabinet had done something wrong that his name should be withdrawn from supreme court nomination. So he doesn't get to claim due process at this point. The standard is what the standard is however standard. You hold that is what's gonna come down you through the power of schadenfreude fellow state. Senator todd kaminsky. A former federal prosecutors had this pattern of behavior requires a swift and immediate independent investigation. The leader of which must be empowered to access all of the evidence. Miss biaggi is chair of the ethics governance committee. She said she was speaking out his new yorker and a survivor of special sexual abuse and she added commend the courage miss bennet and lindsay boylan for coming forward. Okay so the first statement from governor andrew cuomo. We'll get to in just one second. I what is happening at your front door these days. What package is being ripped. Dropped off. have door dash of lot a lot of stuff happening in that front door. You need to make sure you know what's going on your property and this is why i have hurting dot com. What happens at our front door. My are constantly running out the front door. Gotta make sure that they are not running into the street ring. dot com. Makes me aware when this is happening. That's why it's the perfect time to upgrade your doorstep with a ring video doorbell with ring you can see and speak to whoever's at your door from anywhere right on your phone. 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The truth is through a full and thorough outside review and directing all state employees to comply with that effort. I ask all new yorkers to await the findings of the reviews. they know the facts before making any judgments. I will have no further comment until after the review has concluded. Okay well there's only one problem with that Then he says rights and no further statements until after their views been concluded. Twenty four hours. There is a further statement from editor on nan. Politics comes at you fast. Here was a second statement. This one from andrew cuomo questions have been raised about some of my past interactions with people in the office. I never intended to offend anyone or cause any harm now. What we know from the left intense doesn't matter. We have in the world of left where intense does not matter. All the matters is how people were impacted by your words governor so in keeping with the standards created by your own side of the political aisle. It's time to go. Said i spend most of my life at work and colleagues are often also personal friends at at work. Sometimes i think i'm being playful and make jokes that i think are funny. I do on occasion. Tease people in what i think is a good natured. Way i do it in public and in private. You've seen me judy. Briefings hundreds of times. I teach people about their personal lives. Their relationships getting married or not getting married. I mean no offense and only attempt to add some levity and banners. What is a very serious business. I now understand that. My interactions may have been sensitive or too personal and that some of my comments given my position make others feel in ways. I never intended. I acknowledged some of the things i have said have been misinterpreted as an unwanted flirtation the extent anyone felt that way. I am truly sorry about that to be clear. I never inappropriately touched anybody and never proposition anybody and never intended to make anybody feel uncomfortable. But these are allegations. New yorkers deserve answers to. That is why i've asked for outside independent review. That looks at these allegations separately. My office heard anecdotally that some people have reached out to miss bennet to express displeasure about her coming forward. My message to anyone doing that. Is you have misjudged what matters to me. In my administration you should stop now period. Okay so andrew cuomo survive all of this. Well it depends on who thinks andras useful because in politics again truth and falsity don't matter. The only thing that matters is are useful. So jen psaki came out. She said you know job. He supports that andrew. Cuomo's idea for an independent review. Here's the very refreshing. Very honest. jen. Psaki spokeswoman for president biden. President biden has been consistent that he believes that every woman should be heard should be treated with respect and with dignity. Charlotte should be treated with respect and dignity social lindsay and there should be an independent Review looking into these allegations. And that's certainly something he supports and we believe should move forward as quickly as possible. Meanwhile the new york attorney general. James says well you know the kind of independent investigation that cuomo talk about not going to be good enough shows. The allegations of sexual harassment should always be taken seriously. There must be truly independent investigations thoroughly review. These troubling allegations against the governor. I stand ready to oversee that investigation and make any appointments necessary. So letitia james with her eye on gubernatorial seat. Meanwhile nancy pelosi. She's now boxton but the good news for her is that andrew cuomo is no longer useful so she put out a statement saying the women have come forward with serious. Incredible charges against governor cuomo observed to be heard and to be treated with dignity. The independent investigation must have due process and respect for everyone involved. Funny 'cause due process and respect for everybody involved that weirdly that did not happen with a capital. I'm old enough to remember that. Because i'm more than three years old also I i will say that. I don't remember the statements about the necessity for due process and a clear investigation and everybody ought to be treated with respect again. When it came to joe biden by the way worst harrison elvis membrane kamala harris. The vice president of the united states said about joe biden. He might wanna think about dropping out of the race because of the tara reade allegations and then she was like oh. I don't talk about that anymore. I'm vice. That's the way politics works. This is why it just a general level when politicians try to sell you on the idea that they are honest. The their self interested k. Sometimes they're honest because it's in their self on their self interest to be and some politicians are more honest than others. They say things that are not in their own self interest. The vast majority of politicians like everybody else on earth are self interested people who bend the truth and when this is why when politicians say they have a harsh standard with regard to xyz. I you should check to see whether they actually hold themselves to that standard or who. They hold that standard because usually the answer is no. There is just a double standard. They want harsh standard for everybody else and no standard for themselves. So it'll be interesting to see whether the democratic party decides andrew cuomo is worth it. Remember for a year. They upheld him as the pinnacle of gubernatorial leadership while he was apparently doing this stuff. Religiously doing this stuff. They held him up as the greatest governor in america is amazing who they've held up as the greatest governor in america in california where the death rate per million is about the same as in florida except the california's garbage heap. That's been closed for an entire year. In florida has been wide open for months gavin. Newsom another governor being held up by the by the press and the left is wonderful governor by the way california now leads the nation in deaths from covid It turns out that gavin newsom was a dining inside over the weekend in an area where you're not allowed to dine inside how odd how odd the hypocrisy again. The standard does not apply to the specials. All pigs are equal except for some of the pigs. Here is a. Here's gavin newsom. Dining inside the tiktok george lopez doug actually find out if i can get a vaccination george gotta turn that c dot gov wonderful be a surface. George why are they inside the restaurant and not allowed to be. That's in a purple area right scenario where it's too it's too much for the restaurants will be open but there's gavin newsom inside the restaurant this hypocrisy by the way runs throughout american politics and the hypocrisy again. I'm not a big fan of the charge of hypocrisy unless the rule is bad right if the rule is bad then charges of hypocrisy points out the stupidity of the rule. That's what hypocrisy charges are designed to do. What people unless like to do is they will say things like look at this religious person who went out in sindh that means that the standard is bad. We should have no standards. Well that's a stupid idea but if the standard is bad like restaurants should be closed or the standard is bad like quote unquote believe all women which is silly because you should not believe all of any group. A human beings are human being summer telling the truth or not then then hypocrisy charges are perfectly valuable another another excellent example of this over the weekend apparently the berkeley unified union president again. Mayor is according to reopen california schools. He's been leading efforts to keep berkeley schools closed for nearly a year. Because it's unsafe He drops kickoff in a private school for private in person tutor for president and in person schooling in an ice. Because that's the way this all works. The rules do not apply to the people who are special. They never apply to the people who are special which is one of the reasons that donald trump was elected president in two thousand sixteen. Read one of the reasons that trump was elected president in two thousand sixteen is because he was a member of the specials right. Donald trump extremely wealthy. Donald trump is extremely famous. And yet here. He was calling out the other specials. It was one of the reason for his popularity. Because then you have somebody who has all of these things when you have somebody who is respected by the coterie of the elite and then he doesn't look down at other. Americans really was the pitch for donald trump in two thousand sixteen and in two thousand twenty. He got in his own way a lot but at heart that really was his pitch all the way through. It is the reason for the maintaining popularity of donald trump because the other story of the day is the donald trump was speaking at cpac end. There's a straw poll. these straw polls are not typically useful. They've had straw polls in the past show. People like scott walker winning the presidency. Of course that never happened at that very often. Ron paul would show up very high in the straw. Polls even though he really didn't in the main polling but until you something and the level of enthusiasm for trump is still very high. And as as i've been saying for a while it is not that people are in love with everything trump right. This is something left likes to say. Is that if you are if you are supportive of trump in any way or have been supportive of trump in anyway. It's because you buy into all of his excess or all of the things he said that are not true or you like all of his behavior. That's not right. Donald trump which giant feud everyone. That's all donald trump is his giant orange pulsating middle finger that is what he and and most republicans know this most conservatives. No this right. He is just a screw you now. There are some people who say you know what it's not worth it for me to vote for that guy because you know the screw. You isn't important enough but there are a lot of people from screw is very important because they look at the way that politics is currently run and they say donald trump pisses you guys off good. We like anything that pisses you guys off. Because you've created this little bubble for yourselves in which all of the league gets talked to each other and cover for each other and decide who the rules apply to and who the rules do not apply to. And here's a guy. The rules didn't apply to nearly any way and it was called you out for that and so we kind of liked that. Donald trump's enduring popularity. It really is not because many republicans think or all republicans think that donald trump would win the third time around raise not because people think donald trump is necessarily the best republican candidate and in fact the cpac straw poll showed only sixty eight percent of people at cpac right which is very trump. He plays want trump to run again. The reason for trump's enduring support is because people see trump as he giant finger and because they see him as a shield who is kind of out there shielding them from the blows or at least a magnet for the that were originally aimed at them or at least an avatar for them in the fact that he was being attacked because really the people they wanted to attack where the people standing behind trump all the conservatives inside those of people that they wanted to attack okay so trump shows up at cpac over the weekend and he gave honestly what i thought was a fairly good speech. His his speech contained a lot of things that were good. It contained One particular job that of course the media nuts over it was designed to do that he is. He is an epic level troll. He is a cave troll of extraordinary proportions. So trump shows up in public to speak for the first time since he left office in january and he began by attacking joe biden and his take on. Biden is not wrong here gang. He happens to be correct about this. And by the way it's i think it would behoove. Republicans behoove republicans to take off from from playbook when it comes to fighting biden's priorities. I know that they're focused on on apparently other things but the reality is the stuff that actually matters in american life i know a lot of republicans right now focused in on the one point nine trillion dollar stimulus package. That's all fine and good at one point nine. Still trillion dollar stimulus packages a joke. It only a small percentage of that money. She goes to americans. Even though i think frankly a lot of that is even unnecessary. Given the fact that are a lot of states that are wide open right now even of the one point nine trillion dollar package. If you think that a lot of that should go to americans most of it is not the vast majority of is not but the focus for republicans right now should really not be on the taxing and spending it should be on the overall move by the joe biden administration to enshrine the idea that america is. Statistically racist is systemically sexist is systemically evil and needs to be remolded from the inside and donald trump speaks out about that in a way that many other republicans seem afraid to particularly mainstream republicans. Hit the the real. Political battle of our time is not a battle over spending. It isn't okay. I i think spending a super important i do. I thought it was really important. Donald trump was doing is president of the united states but for most americans. They don't inherently carol that much about the national debt is just a political baton anytime the other parties in power. You care about the national debt anytime your own parties in power you just ignore the national that some of us are consistent and don't like the national debt being increased under any president but the real battle that people feel in their bones right now is the culture war that is going on in which half the country has declared the other half of the country deplorable and evil and wrong headed infectious dick and donald trump speaking up for a lot of those americans in a way that other republicans are not somebody could fill that vacuum where the other republicans filling that vacuum until somebody else on the right fills that vacuum. It's going to be very difficult for donald trump to go away k. Even if you like trump and you want to see him just move off to the side and continue to wage his political battles. But you don't wanna see him run again or you'd like to see a new face Maybe maybe a less damaged face for a lot of that agenda. Somebody is gonna have to step up and fill that role as the person who goes to battle in the culture wars. then he can't ignore the culture. Were issues the irony. of course the donald trump is the most oddly placed person to fight. He's culture cultural issues considering the guys kind of socially liberal on a lot of things except for abortion and yet it's donald trump who stood up repeatedly and said commonsensical stuff about this sort of thing it's the reason for popularity. So where's the republican. Who's going to step in and pick up that baton until that happens. He's going to maintain his durability as a member of the of the sort of sensor of republican politics. So here's a bit of trump's speech trump was speaking cpac of course and and he went after bindings abidance had a horrible first month. Joe biden has had the most disastrous first month of any president in modern history. That's true already. The biden administration is proven that they are anti jobs. Anti family anti borders anti energy anti women anti science in just one short month. We have gone from america. First to america less okay. This sort of attack line is one that republicans need to be making. It happens to be true. I know that the media tried to make joe biden into a genial older fellow who's filled with empathy his policies. We've been pointing out every on. The show are extraordinarily radical radical in the obama administration's policies his take on the world that has been promulgated the administration which is the equity meaning anti-racism abram ex candy nonsense is the center of all his policies that stuff is extremely radical. But on the right. Everybody is focused in on stimulus bill. That's too much money. i agree. It's too much money and i agree. Do your best in congress to stop it. So where is the leadership calling out the actual battle for the soul of the country. Which is what does this. What should the motivating ideology of the country be a here. Is trump touching issue the menu republicans seem afraid to touch publicly. And that of course is the issue of trans policies. Being pushed by the biden administration. Here he was going after the equality the so-called equality or equality act which suggests that men ought to compete alongside women in less equal idea. It's hard to imagine. Here is trump going after that. Joe biden and the democrats are even pushing policies. That would destroy women's sports young girls and women sets that they are now being forced to compete against those who are biological males. It's not good for women's that good for women's sports which worked so long and so hard to get to where they are the records that stood for years even decades are now being smashed with these smashed. If this is not changed women's sports as we know it will die. They'll end it'll end okay. So the left makes fun of this sort of stuff like why. Why does this matter. Because the redefinition of basic biological sex matters pretending that everybody is exactly the same in all respects and thus all outcomes on exactly this because everybody of course is exactly. The same is a recipe for top down control. It is a recipe for disaster. He that's why the stuff actually matters. And yes americans care about this sort of stuff by the way if you think that it ends at women's athletics you're dead wrong. It doesn't end it. women's athletics. it ends with children. Being taken out of homes of parents refused to go along with the prevailing views that their public school kitchens have sex change again. That's where this is going to end eventually. You already see this kind of stuff happening in certain parts of canada by the way he's already seen threats to to parental conservatorship based on refusal to acknowledge that your child is actually a member of the gender that they say they are a member of rather than their actual biological sex. This is this is not the last step here. Trump was in essence a culture war figure he continues to be a cultural war figure until somebody on the right picks up that mantle. There's not gonna be any bells on the right picking up that mantle. We it so the left likes to make this all about you. Know trump people people love trump because trump says all these terrible things and all of these tweets that a lot of people don't like and because trump was telling lies after the election about the that is not why people like trump. They the answer if you ask conservatives if you ask republicans why they are still warm to trump. the answer is they would rather have the guy who's punching back even if he's punching back dirty and wrong ways than the person who sits there and just takes it right. This is why you get the why he but he fights stuff from conservatives. I've always made the case with trump. That but he fights has to come with an asterisk which is if you punching yourself in your own face. That's not a good way of fighting. Yes it's good that he fights it's also bad that he fought in such a way that he lost an actual corpse in joe biden. It there is a way to fight which you win but if you ask republicans which would i prefer the one who fights or the dozen fight. He's both are not gonna win victory. But i'd rather have the one invites. That is what you're gonna end up with okay. Trump also went after biden on the teachers unions again. This this happens to be correct stuff. There's no reason whatsoever why. The vast majority of young americans should not be back in school immediately. The only reason that most parents are not have that choice is because joe biden sold out america's children to the teachers unions. His position is morally inexcusable. You know that. Joe biden is shamefully betrayed youth and he is cruelly keeping our children locked in their homes. No reason for whatsoever they wanna get out cheating the next generation of americans out of the future that they deserve and they deserve this future. They're going to grow up and they're going to have a scar by the way all true. All of that is true. Joe biden is enthralled to the teachers unions. Everybody knows it. Even the new york times has a piece today titled at school closures near first anniversary diverse parent movement demands action now normally the way they push this as democratic policies on school. Closings push republican kickback. Read the republicans pounds on school closings. Okay but even the new york times is being forced to recognize that the school closings have no basis in reality that schools being closed are not a good answer to what has been happening with covid particularly as the vaccines get rolled out faster and faster along piece in the new york times today. All about a all about a diverse body of people in philadelphia places or saying. We need to reopen the schools. A queen tyler. A mother and hairstylist in north philadelphia has been disappointed in her neighborhood public schools for many years now her nine-year-old son and thirteen year old daughter have been learning online for nearly a year. Even mass children gathered boisterously local private schools. Miss tyler is planning a radical change. Moving her family to florida where the republican controlled state government has mandated that all districts provide in person learning five days a week unease. There's attending traditional public school in sarasota complete with sports art and music. Okay well welcome down here leader politics at home seriously. Bring bunch democrat crap down here and you make it worse than please stay in philadelphia but if you wanna come down here and be part of a free state. I just moved her to be part of a free state. Then come on down the water's fine it again. Trump's pushback here has some there is such a base for republican victory. Here and people are writing off the republican party because what happened on january six which was truly an awful egregious evil incident by a fringe group of people who broke off even bigger rally and there are people who are off the republican party because of supposed conflict inside the corridors of the republican party. Here's the point when there is a point of pushback that unifies the republican party. They could easily win back. The house could easily win back the senate and they could win back the presidency in two thousand twenty four. This is not a pipedream. If you'd said to people in nineteen seventy six after gerald ford lost to jimmy carter in the aftermath of watergate. How long it would take for republicans to get back into power. People probably would have said about fifteen twenty years instead. It was four things real fast because bad policy has consequences in just a second. 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That's what they are so we don't pay attention to you anymore. The problem it's a problem for the right. It's time for left because the truth. Is there certain things that we all find kinda gross. We want people saying and their social strictures to those things. But as a general rule the left want everybody they don't like cancelled and not just people they don't like for like a great reason now like neo-nazis just label everybody a white supremacist or any nazi and this of course is what has driven so many republicans to support for people like president trump because he has the loudest and he is the most out there and his the person who's taken the most hits and so people on the right now associated takes the most hits with the person who tells the truth the most because those two things tend to be pretty highly correlated. Where the left is concerned if you see the people who likes to attack the most very often. It's the people who are saying the most things now. Problem is sometimes. Not sometimes the left is attacking marjorie taylor. Great example sometimes. The left is attacking marshmallow. Green for jewish base lasers seems like a pretty good reason to go after somebody they believe. The jewish baseless laser started a california wildfire or they are touting the cunanan theory but the exact same of outrage met marjorie taylor green saying that there are two genders which is true as her saying that are jewish space laser which is crazy certain point the righteous as we don't trust anything you people have to say we don't trust anything you people have to say it's why there is so much skepticism of the institutional media why there's so much skepticism of left when they cleanse people are not evaluating claim by claim whether the left is telling the truth instead of just ignoring left wholesale and the left just keeps doing. It is truly incredible so for example. Melissa milano is now pushing a weird theory okay so cpac stage was built in a certain way. Okay and usually it is kind of the hotel. Planner who decides how the stage is going to be set up particularly in a place like hyatt elissa milano. Put out a graphic of sort of an aerial view of the stage. And she said this is a nazi symbol. Then she said this is the stage cpac. They're not even trying to hide it anymore. The high at this is what's happening in your building. Ted cruz you stood on the stage. And she says that stage was built in order to resemble a nassima. Okay you're crazy person. I'm sorry totally wild. You're wild this is no less crazy than on crap. If you think that people at cpac match slap was like you know what we need a stage. Let's make it in the shape of a giant swastika Nobody will catch on. To whom are you signaling alyssa milano. You caught onto the code. Was these people like osa milano. Who dressed up like a handmaid's tale outfit to go to justice cavanaugh. Hearings like that person is considered a serious human on the left. P people are considered serious for calling on the highest be boycotted because they hosted cpac by the way. Good for hyatt. Hank came out. And they're like you know what we hosts all sorts of conferences. Go f yourself. This by the way should be the response of every single corporation in america when the wilkes come for them according to fox twenty six houston hyatt hotels defended its decision to host. He twenty twenty one conservative political action conference at a time when the political climate has become increasingly volatile setting its belief that individuals and organizations should be able to peaceful. Yeah there and express their own views. The three day event is being held at the hyatt regency orlando in florida featuring a slew of prominent republican speakers from lawmakers and former administration's Former administration officials to president trump. he spokesperson for high. It said quote we take pride and operating a highly inclusive environment. We believe that the facilitation of gatherings is essential elements of what we do as a hospitality company. We believe in the right of individuals and organizations to peacefully express their views independence of the degree to which perspectives of those hosting meetings and events are hotels aligned with ours our own values support a culture that is characterized me. I'm the respect and diversity of opinions and backgrounds. We strive to bring this to light through what we do. And how engaged with those in our care and this of course prompted boycott hyatt to trend on social media. And this is how you trump gang. You're gonna keep getting it good hard. This is how this how the right is going to continue pushing into the culture wars. The hardy push the heart of the backlash is going to be and by the way. They are pushing unbelievably hard. The scariest story of last couple of weeks is amazon. Coming after books. i mean digital book. Burnings are now real thing. According to the daily wire amanda prestigiacomo reporting conservatives are sounding the alarm about an updated amazon policy that banned books ubiquitous billion dollar company teams offensive or includes so called hate speech as noted by daily wire on his ramped up censorship on us in recent weeks for example a popular documentary on your supreme court justice. Clarence thomas was banned from their streaming service past week before that move. The company d platform conservative ryan. Anderson's book critical of very when harry became sally when just the news reached out on the ban on anderson's book. The outlet directed them to a page outlining their content islands. Books under a section labelled offensive content amazon now states that quote don't sell certain content including context we determine. His hate speech promotes the abuse or sexual exploitation of children. Okay so i'm just going to point out that you have literally have books promoted me sexual abuse and exploitation of children when you're telling five year olds that they can be members of the opposite sex and they might want to get puberty blockers. That is the sexual abuse and exploitation of children end of story. They don't sell certain content involving content. They determine his hate speech. So if you say that that's bad by the way that's hate. Speech contains pornography glorifies rape or pedophilia advocates terrorism or other material would deem inappropriate or offensive. The report says a review of those policy suggests that sometime in the last few months amazon made a major change the ways in which a moderates book content on its servers imposing much stricter standard on books and it had previously done. It appears the company recently added so called hate speech to their guidelines on book platforming and his amping their censorship of the quote unquote offensive. This is going to lead to the complete cancellation and banning of conservative books entirely. We already saw them trying to do this. With abigail friars book abigail. Sharp wants out. When a company controls over eighty three percent of the market for books it begins the process of delay of deleting ideas from society a bookseller console would wants if marxist book wants to only sell books that conform to ideology. Okay that has integrity but this is the world's largest bookseller amazon can basically make books disappear for all readers and does so on a blatantly dishonest basis my understanding by the way. Is that even if you bought these books. They have raised them from kindle. So it doesn't matter if you already bought the book like if you have here at. Harry became sally on amazon. Like he bought it on the kindle version. I believe they disappeared it from kindle. Somebody can correct me. If i'm wrong in this sort of stuff is what americans are afraid of and they should be afraid of it because it has infused all of our society according to ask al boston. Public schools have suspended advance class enrollment tests. They've decided they're no longer going to allow you to enter admission tests. New enrollments okay. Why well because they're afraid that the people who are doing well on two white into asian and asians of course are not a minority when they perform. Well then they're just white people. According to ash scall- new fifth and sixth graders will not be accepted into advanced classes in boston. The entire city for the next year the entry test was suspended due to the pandemic while at the same time. The school district has raised concerns about racial equity problems. Noting that vast majority of students in those classes are white or asian. Gbh news reported the selective program called advanced classes will suspend enrollment because of the pandemic but also cited concerns about because more than seventy percents of students enrolled in the program were white and asian. even though eighty percents of public school students are hispanic and black superintendent brenda kazillion said there's been a lot of inequities they've been brought to light in the. There's a lot of work we have to do to be anti-racists there is your codeword. Anti-racist is the infusion of this bullcrap throughout all of american culture and you will be cancelled if you disagree and your children will be denied opportunity if you disagree and then when you fleet to a private school they will follow you there see. Here's the thing. There are no places where you get to live your life. The left has determined that all societies to be their safe space. It'd be one thing for themselves. We just want our safe-space even in this little domain on campus. Then they declared off. Campus are safe-space. Then they declared of corporate. America is our safe-space then declared your church is our space. They will soon declare that your home must also be there. Safe-space all of society must be their space. Because in order for them to live there most filled expressive lives. We talked about last week. You have to acknowledge and cheer them. It is not enough for you to just say. Live your life alone. That is not enough. You must accept and cheer them because you see your failure to cheer is an imposition on their personal happiness you are. The problem is their failure to conform to societal standards. Which we all have to do from time to time in ways we don't particularly like is that the left believes all of society must conform to them and particularly you must conform to them in every available way and so they've taken over every institution every major institution of our society. I it's hard to think of a more symbolic more symbolic move than the one that was just made the entertainment industry by dc comics so apparently according to observe dot com shadow and act has has a scoop author. Tallahassee coaches is now writing a superman feature film produced by j.j. abrams as of now. The project is shrouded in mystery with no information provided on whether the movie will be a sequel to man of steel or complete rube report without henry cavill deadline. Says the film is reboot. There's no director attached. No plot details available coats said to be invited into the extended universe. By warner brothers. Dc films and bad robot is an honor. I look forward to meaningfully adding to the legacy of america's most iconic mythic hero. He's listed in the thank you credits. Avengers endgame and black panther of depend some black panther and captain america comic books in which captain america gets woke. Toby emmerich the more brothers. Chairman said his bestselling novel between the world. And me is it. Nonfiction book lends itself to a new and exciting way of viewing the man of steel. If i knew an exciting you mean that the guy who used to be iconic forcing truth justice and the american way will now be systemic racism evil and the american way. This is. what's going to happen right. You've taken a superhero. Whose literal pitch is that. America is good and he is defending american values. You're taking that. And you're handing that over to a guy who literally said that he was watching nine. Eleven happened from the top of an apartment building. While smoking marijuana i believe is in his memoir and he suggested that he felt nothing because of the long history of racism in america. That's the person you're having superman over to nagin. It's a private company. But are wrecking a piece of intellectual property. It was designed to be pro america handing it to a person who really does not like the foundational ideals of this country. Tallahassee coach is not a fan of the foundational ideals of the country he liked nicole. Hannah jones believes they were alive when written. He believes they've never been truly acted out. And he believes that the fundamental ideals of the country have to fundamentally shift. Tallahassee coats is a is a e slightly more soft-spoken candy in terms of actual politics. He is more socialist. Basically his ideas that we need socialism in order to racism. He's kind of a bernie sanders acolyte along these lines. But he's a racial centralist. He believes that black and white cannot understand each other. And you're handing superman the most iconic american piece of intellectual property. there is over tana hoc- coats so every instant every part of our culture is now being militarized on behalf of the woke left and then wonder why there's blowback there will be a blowback in. We'll be regis final note on this. We've been updating you on the hubbub surrounding the bachelor. You remember that bachelor host. Chris harrison who's the host for like twenty five years has been replaced or less twenty years. He's been replaced temporarily right and who's replaced because he had the temerity to say that contestants whose originally defended by the first black bachelor because he was dating her as not racist harrison said maybe we should give her some grace and now he's been canceled from a show on which is an executive producer. Will now now. He has been replaced in the final on the beyond the rose episode. Whatever the hell. That is by a person named emmanuel jose youtube series about confronting racism for the bachelor after the final rose echo the host of youtube series uncomfortable conversations with the black man announced on saturday he would host the one hour special for the twenty fifth season and aca will address the situation head on during the special because clearly a dating show requires a person who is a specialist in confronting racism on youtube sound fantastic. Apparently the show has placed a disclaimer. Unseens films before harrison stepped aside the rap reports that last week's episode which featured footage of harrison on a celebrity edition of wheel of fortune noted the scenes were filmed in december. We have to make sure that everybody knows that. Chris harrison has been canceled in any appearance. Chris harrison is an appearance from the past every institution every institution will be militarized on behalf of the woke left in your either a tool or an obstacle to them unless you push back against the enduring popularity of donald trump was more of an obstacle to the left than anybody else. Apparently read is the way that the left us it already. We'll have another hour of the program a little bit later today. In the meantime go check out. The michael knowles show michael. We'll be talking about trump at cpac. Episode is available right now. I'm ben shapiro. This is the ben shapiro. Show if you enjoyed this episode. don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to help spread the word. Please give us a five star review and tell your friends to subscribe to were available on apple podcasts. Spotify and wherever you listen to podcasts. Also be sure to check out the other daily wire podcasts. Including the andrew klavan show the michael knowles show. And the matt walsh show. 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Democracy Now! 2020-08-19 Wednesday

"From. New York this is democracy now breaking with convention Delaware as practical cast. It's thirty two votes for our favorite son at our next president. Dour Joe Biden. The Democratic Cardi is formerly pick Joe Biden to it's twenty twenty presidential nominee to challenge president trump November will air highlights from night to of the Virtual Democratic convention including Joe Biden Georgia voting rights leader Stacey Abrams Medicare for all activists audio Barkin who suffers from a ls and congresswoman Alexandra custody of Cortes. Infidelity and gratitude to Amass People's movement working to establish twenty-first-century social, economic and human rights including guaranteed healthcare higher education with wages and labor rights for all people in the United States plus we'll speak to two former. Bernie Sanders supporters who took part in the Biden Sanders unity taskforce the economists, Derek Hamilton and brushing for cash co founder of the sunrise movement all that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now, democracy now dot org where breaking with convention I mean me he could than the Democratic Party has formally selected Joe Biden Twenty twenty presidential nominee to challenge president trump in November after an unprecedented virtual roll call vote Tuesday evenings keynote address was given by seventeen so-called rising stars in the Democratic Party including voting rights, activists, Stacey Abrams who ran for Governor and George in two thousand eighteen former presidents, Bill. Clinton and Jimmy Carter also spoke, Tuesday. As did fail two, thousand, four Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry for. A second night in a row the Democratic national convention prominently featured the Voices of Republicans and former Republicans. Making the case for Biden John McCain's widow Cindy McCain, former defense secretary and Republican Senator Chuck Hagel and George W Bush's Secretary of State Colin Powell who infamously helped make the case for invading Iraq by lying to the United Nations about Iraq's nonexistent weapons of mass destruction during prime time address Powell praised Biden and his late son Beau Biden a member of the Delaware Army National Guard, who deployed to Iraq in two thousand eight. It comes from the experience. He shares with millions of military families, sending his beloved son off to war and pray to God. He would come home safe new. York. Congresswoman. Alexandra Cossio Cortez was given just one minute to address the Democratic National Convention and pre-tape Statement. She took a little more time. She nominated Biden's challenger Senator Bernie Sanders who officially remained. In the race despite suspending his campaign in April. After headlines Will Air Cossio Cortez's speech and other highlights from the Democratic National Convention Postmaster General Louis Joy said Tuesday he suspending changes to the US Postal Service until after the election following a mass public outcry against cuts to mail service even is a record number of voters are expected to cast ballots by. Now, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected to joys move as insufficient saying it failed to reverse damage already done to the Postal Service Pelosi is called the house back into session from summer recess for an urgent vote on the postal service scheduled for Saturday. Last week president trump admitted. He's working to remind the USPS in order to make it harder to vote. By Mail in November, trump's comment came as the postal service sent letters to forty six states in Washington DC warning all Mellon ballots may not get delivered on time even as the USPS remove mailboxes and mail sorting equipment across the country in New York Democratic Representative Alexandra Custody Cortez visited a post office in Queens Tuesday where she blasted the trump administration's moves. This. Issue is bigger than any one of us. The Postal Service is, how is not only how we send a ballot? It is how we get our medicine it how we send rent checks it's where people are getting their tax refunds. It is a core service of any civilized society and an attack on our postal service and an attempt to dismantle our our postal service out of a selfish desire to sabotage our. Democracy and and maintain a grip on power is an attack on all of us. The US reported another forty-three thousand coronavirus cases and more than thirteen hundred deaths from covid nineteen Tuesday bringing the official US death toll to nearly one hundred, seventy, two, thousand Indiana the University of Notre Jane canceled all in person classes said, it would move to online only instruction after confirmed eighty new coronavirus cases linked to an off campus. Party where students refused to wear masks or practice social distancing meanwhile the los. Angeles. Unified. School district Tuesday announced ambitious plans to test about six hundred thousand students and seventy five thousand employees ahead of their eventual return to in person classes, universities, and colleges around the United States have moved to online classes after beginning in person because of outbreaks the New York Times reports the number of known deaths from covid nineteen us. Persons in jail says top two thousand and Arizona. Group of Cuban asylum seekers at the for profit lapoma correctional facility sent a disturbing letter to immigration advocates accusing guards of covering up a surge of Cova cases and failing to protect prisoners from the spread of the disease. The prisoners also described at least nine suicide attempts by asylum seekers who grew desperate after ninety seven percent of asylum claims were rejected by an immigration judge. As Global Confirm Coronavirus cases top twenty, two, million the World Health Organization warned Tuesday young adults and children are increasingly driving the spread of covid nineteen who officials said recent outbreaks in Australia and the Philippines were sparked mostly people younger than forty while who epidemiologist Maria Vancouver clue warned younger people are not immune to the worst effects of the virus. We are seeing people even young people who are ending up with severe disease. We are seeing young people who are ending up in ICU and we are seeing young people who are dying from this virus lay precedent either Boubacar Keta resigned Tuesday after soldiers in the capital Bamako staged Cudi ta the followed weeks of anti-government protests. Mali's prime minister was also deposed by coup leaders calling themselves. The National Committee for the Salvation of the people in a broadcast on state television that cool leaders promised organize new elections. You're not keen on power, but we are keen on the stability of the country which will allow to organize between the reasonable time limit general elections to allow Molly to equip itself with strong institutions in multiple bullet handling our daily lives. Confidence. Between The United Nations and African Union condemned the coup and the arrest of Mali's precedent. Opposition leaders praised the coolest of popular insurrection before Tuesday's coup the president face weeks of protests against rampant corruption, police brutality, and mounting violence from separatist groups in Mali. Back, in the United States, the Republican controlled Senate. Intelligence, committee has published a nearly one thousand page report on how rush interfered and the two thousand sixteen election to help president trump get elected. The Senate report alleges a close associate of trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort was Russian intelligence officer a finding not included in the Miller report the Senate report states manafort's dealings with constant ten kalinic quote represented a grave counter intelligence threat. The report also reveals more details about the Russians you met with Manafort Jared Kushner and Donald Trump junior at trump tower in two, thousand sixteen. The Senate report said the individuals had quote significant connections to Russian government including the Russian Intelligence Services Unquote? In Palm. Beach Florida far right activists, Laura. Luma has won the Republican primary for the US House districts that's home to president trump's mar-a-lago resort lumo was banned from twitter and facebook in two thousand, eighteen over racist attacks on. Omar. When three muscle members of Congress, she was also bad from Uber and left after making Slama phobic comments about drivers, Donald and Melania trump cast absentee ballots in Tuesday's primary and after lumers victory, the president tweeted his congratulations to her. The Republican Party has invited a wealthy white Saint Louis couple who brandish guns at black lives matter protesters to speak at the Republican National Convention Next Week and Patricia mccloskey face felony charges over the June incident which saw mark mccloskey point a semi automatic assault rifle at protesters while Patricia waved a silver pistol also set to speak at the RNC Nick Sanmen a Catholic High School? Student from Kentucky who was filmed grinning and smirking as he and other students surrounded and David American demonstrator in Washington. DC last year after the students taunted and mocked participants in the indigenous. Peoples March. President trump Tuesday pardoned suffragette Susan B Anthony and commemoration of the hundredth anniversary of the ratification of the nineteenth amendment which gave women. The right to vote Anthony was arrested in eighteen seventy two for voting when women were banned from the process in response new. York's Lieutenant Governor Kathy Hoax tweeted quote as highest ranking woman elected official in New York and on behalf of Susan B. Anthonys legacy we demand trump rescind pardon she was proud of her arrest to draw. Attention to the cause for women's rights and never paid her. Fine. Let her rest in Peace Donald trump unquote. The Nineteenth Amendment was ratified hundred years ago in one thousand, nine, twenty, fourteen years after Anthony's death it was not implemented equally however, black women wouldn't enjoy full voting rights for decades until pass it to the voting rights act of nineteen sixty, five Susan B. Anthony Yourself fiszman accused of racism for focusing white women's suffrage instead of voting rights for all women. In California Governor Gavin Newsom has declared a state of emergency as more than thirty wildfires burn across the state amidst one of the worst heatwaves, and here's climate scientists say the fires driven by the unrelenting rise of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels which are increasing the frequency severity and duration of extreme heat waves. A federal judge on Monday temporarily blocked part of a trump administration policy that. Would end anti discrimination protections for transgender patients under the affordable care act. The rule was announced in June was supposed to take effect Tuesday and related news. A federal judge in Idaho has temporarily blocked a state law that banned transgender women and girls from joining sports teams corresponding to their Gender Identity Idaho Republican Governor Brad Little signed the law in March stating athletes should endure invasive. Of their quote internal and external reproductive anatomy to quote verify their sex. and. Gender identity. And a secret of ethics board newly created by the trump administration is urging the US government to stop funding medical research that uses human fetal tissue donate it after elective abortions. The National Institutes of Health Board was convened less than three weeks ago and at least two thirds of its members or outspoken anti choice advocates or opponents. Fetal tissue research scientists have long considered fetal Tissue Research A. Valuable tool that could advance the understanding of a number of diseases and potentially be used in developing cures or vaccines including for the coronavirus, and there's just some of the headlines says democracy now democracy now dot org we are breaking with convention. I mean, he goodman in New York City joined by my co host and solace joining us from his home in New Brunswick New Jersey High Juan. By Amy and welcome to all of our listeners and viewers across the country and around the world. Well, we welcome everyone to our breaking with convention series as we continue to cover the Democratic National Convention underway virtual a this week. The Democratic Party has formerly pick Joe Biden to be. It's twenty twenty presidential nominee to challenge president trump biden was nominated Tuesday night by a security guard. At the New, York Times, who met the former vice president in an elevator at the Times last year. Partake, powerful people up on my elevator all the time. When they get off big to their important meetings me. Back to the lobby. But. In the short time I spent with Joe Biden I could tell he really saw me. That he actually cared. That my life midst him and I knew even when he went into this important meeting. She'd take my story in there with them. That's because Joe Biden has room in his heart for more than just himself. We've been to a lot. And we have tough days ahead but nominating someone like that to be in the white? House is a good place to start. That's why I nominate my friend. Joe Biden as the next president of the United States. While, Joe Biden Got Jacqueline Brittany support the security guard the New York Times at the time that times did not endorse Joe Biden. This came just moments after New York Congresswoman Alexandra. Castro Cortez nominated Biden's challenger Senator Bernie Sanders who officially remained in the race despite suspending his campaign in April. Good Evening Bienvenidos and thank you to everyone here today endeavoring towards a better more just future for our country and our world. In fidelity and gratitude to amass. People's movement working to establish twenty-first-century social, economic and human rights including guaranteed healthcare higher education living wages, and labor rights for all people in the United States. A movement striving to recognize and repair the wounds of racial injustice, colonization, misogyny, and homophobia. And to propose and build reimagined systems of immigration and foreign policy that turn away from the violence and xenophobia of our past. A movement that realizes. The unsustainable brutality of an economy that rewards explosive inequalities of wealth for the few at the expense of long term stability for the many and who organized a historic. Grassroots. Campaign to reclaim our democracy. In a time when millions of people in the United States are looking for deep systemic solutions to our crises of mass addictions, unemployment, and lack of healthcare, and at least speed, Pueblo, blow, and out of a love for all people I. Hereby Second The nomination of Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont for President of the United States of. The democratic. Party than held a virtual roll call vote the process began in Selma Alabama in front of the Edmund Pettus Bridge and continued across fifty six other states and territories showcasing indigenous voices in Mexico and south. Dakota. A. meat-packing worker in Nebraska a father in Florida who star was killed in the Parkland school massacre and the parents of Matthew. Owning a game and brutally murdered there in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, the roll-call ended, and Biden's home state of Delaware. Delaware is proud to cast. It's thirty two votes for our favorite son at our next president. I'll. Fran. Download. Joe Biden. The keynote address on Tuesday night was given by seventeen so-called rising stars and the Democratic Party including Pennsylvania State Representative Malcolm Kenya. When I wanted to marry the man I loved. Joe Biden was the first national figure to support me in my family. Man. Voting rights activists. Stacey Abrams who ran for governor insurer Chen Two thousand eighteen also spoke part of the joint keynote address. America faces a triple threat, a public health catastrophe and economic collapse and reckoning with racial justice and inequality. So our choice is clear. A steady experienced public servant. Can lead us out of this crisis just like he's done before. Or Man, who only knows how to deny distract. Leader who cares about our families or president who only cares about himself? We know Joe Biden. America, we need Joe Biden. Faced with a president of cowardice Joe. Biden is a man of proven courage. He will restore our moral compass confronting challenges not by hiding from them or undermining our elections to keep his job. In a time of voter suppression at home and a sword tyrians abroad Joe, Biden will be champion for free and fair elections for public health system that keeps US safe for an economy that we build back better than before and for accountability and integrity in our system of justice former presidents, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton also spoke Tuesday night Clinton Slam president trump's performance in the White House. Trump says we're leading the world. Well, we are the only major industrial economy to have its unemployment rate triples. At, a time like this, the Oval Office should be a command center instead it's a stormcenter. House just one thing never changes his determination to deny responsibility and shift the blame. The book never stops there for a second night in a row. The Democratic national convention prominently featured the Voices of Republicans and former Republicans backing Biden. John McCain's widow Cindy McCain spoke in a video about the close friendship between her husband and Biden former defense secretary and Republican. Senator. Chuck Hagel joined a group of other former top national security officials praising Biden a time speaking sought was also given to George W Bush's Secretary of State Colin Powell who infamously helped make the case for invading Iraq by misleading the United Nations about Iraq's nonexistent weapons of mass destruction. Today, we are a country divided. And we have a president doing. His power to make it that way and keep us that way. What a difference? It will make to have a president who unites us who restores that strength and their soul General Powell would later call that speech a blot on his career. The second night of the Democratic National Convention ended with Dr Jill Biden speaking in an empty classroom at brandy wine high school in Wilmington Delaware where she used to teach English. The rooms are dark as the bright young faces that you fill. them are now confined to boxes on a computer screen. I hear it from. So many of you. The frustration of parents juggling work while they support their children's learning. Her frayed that their kids might get sick from school. The concern of every person working without enough protection. The despair in the lines that stretch out before food banks. and. The indescribable sorrow that follows every lonely. Breath when the ventilators turn off. As a mother and a grandmother as an American. I am heartbroken by the magnitude of this loss. By the failure to protect our communities by every precious and ear replaceable. Life God. Dr Joe Biden speaking at the Democratic National Convention last night. When we come back, we'll hear remarks by Medicare for all activists addy bargain who suffers from Alaska and we'll speak to economists Derek Hamilton who took part in the Biden Sanders unity taskforce stay with us. been spending most. Living in. Time. Standing. Living. Time. Wasting most. Days. Remember Vic nurse Otis raised down the. You. On Face Expertise. They Don. I'm amazed. Pastimes. By stevie wonder, this is democracy now democracy now dot org. I. Need Me Goodman with Juan Gonzalez. We are breaking with convention as we cover the Democratic National Convention underway virtually this week as the Democratic Party formally announced Joe. Biden has its nominee for president Tuesday night one of those who joined in the call to elect him was Medicare for all activists addy Barkan who's paralyzed and unable to speak due to terminal. Media. By the time. Is. Gone Up to be. Encourages. No longer, I'll be around for you. I was tagged. Punks twiss fail as today. which is a deadly to militating disease. After I was diagnosed to President has tax bill put my health shared risk. So I went to Washington DC. Gas made headlines when he confronted their Republican Senator on an airplane. One is create better. For you live. All matters. Hisamitsu. More, and so our hero. Hello, America. My name is Audie Barkan, and I am speaking to you through this computer voice because I have been paralyzed by a mysterious illness called us like. So many of you I have experienced the ways our healthcare system is fundamentally broken. Enormous costs denied claims dehumanizing treatment when we are most in need. Since my shocking diagnosis, I have traveled the country meeting countless patients like me. Demanding more of our representatives, and our democracy. Today, we are witnessing the tragic consequences of are failing health care system. In the midst of a pandemic, nearly one, hundred million Americans do not have sufficient health insurance. And even good insurance does not cover essential needs like long care. Our loved ones are dying in unsafe nursing homes are nurses are overwhelmed and unprotected and are essential workers are treated as dispensable. We live in the richest country in history and yet we do not guarantee this most basic human right. Everyone living in America should get the healthcare they need regardless of their employment status or ability to pay. Even during this terrible crisis. Donald Trump and Republican politicians are trying to take away millions of people's health insurance. With, the existential threat of another four years of this president, we all have a profound obligation to act not only to vote but to make sure that our friends family and neighbors vote as well. We must elect. Joe. Biden. Each of us must be a hero for our communities for our country and then with a compassionate and intelligent president, we must act together and put on his desk bill that guarantees us all the healthcare we deserve that's leading medicare for all activists addy Barkin endorsing Joe Biden for President and a powerful address to the Democratic National Convention Tuesday, night Medicare for all and green new deal were key parts of the platform of Senator Bernie. Sanders. Received nominating speeches from. Former president of the United Auto Workers Bob King New Your Congress member Alexandra Cossio. Cortez on Tuesday even though Sanders rescinded his candidacy he netted enough delegates during the primary to qualify for the convention in a roll-call votes Sanders received one thousand, one, hundred, fifty, one delegates while Biden secured the presidential nomination with three thousand five, hundred, Fifty, eight delegates for more we're joined by Derrick Hamilton a former Bernie sanders supporter who took part in the Biden Sanders unity taskforce. The incoming founding director of the newly created. Institute for the Study of race stratification and political economy at the new school professor Hamilton Welcome to democracy. Now it's great to have you with us. This was very powerful addy Barkin speaking electronically a talking about his support for although he didn't use the words. Medicare. For All he is well known as a Medicare for all activists and Joe Biden has promised he would veto any medicare for all bill that came to his desk at lead if he was president. Can you talk about? that. Difference and whether you think actually they're still possible. Chance for change on if there was a precedent by. Well I guess the counterfactual was Donald Trump and. That helps to explain why addy barking gave an unequivocal endorsement Biden I mean, Donald, trump really does represent an existential threat to the nation. Beyond his narcissism, he revels in trying to find loopholes to serve his purpose. So given that context, I think the strategy is elect Joe Biden and on November, third come with the full force to ensure that Medicare for all becomes enacted into lower during his administration because healthcare should be a human right. Professor. How could you talk somewhat about your participation in the efforts of the a Bernie the burn Biden Economic Task Force to to reach agreement on economic proposal what were some of your disappointments with that and what were some of what you believe to be the successes. Pushed him alive with regards to at least expressing the values of progressive movement. I WANNA give a real big shout out to representative Karen. Bass. I'm happy with the choice of of Harris as VP I'm but a big nod in. Off. The Karen Bash. Because She I'm proud that she is going to be part of the future of the DNC party that said. You know the document if you look at it, there is a lot in there. There's a recognition for instance that the US Department of Agriculture devoted black bombers of billions of dollars that that's pretty big so that that's progress. I'd say that the biggest constraint an Albatross, not only on that document, but the DNC party at large is this notion of Pagel or stared. This notion that the government is constrained in its budget like a household. That's A. That's A. We have monetary power that enables us to invest in our most treasured resource, which is people you know, of course, I could say a lot more about that. In, one last thing I'll say about this is only one side of the political aisle actually pays attention to pay go as it relates to putting their agenda Republicans could care less about, hey, go or steady when they're talking about tax cuts the goal to the wealthiest nation but. Somehow, that becomes a conversation stopper when the Democratic Party is thinking about an economic rights. And talking about this issue of austerity versus the unlimited power of government. When it comes to monetary policy, we're looking at this reality that this standard and Poor's five hundred the stock market index has reached record highs in the midst of this. Economic Crisis of the country and some a lot of analysts are saying that's basically because companies and banks are receiving essentially free money. From the Federal Reserve Bank of talk about how monetary policy can affect. Achievement of some of the economic goals of the Progressive Movement. Two points one is I wouldn't say we have unlimited how monetary policy but the constraints on monetary policy have not been realized in a very long time and that would be inflation or the cost of which the federal government has to pay to borrow A, in relation to our ability to grow the economy but that said. Why is it such an emphasis on measures like the stock market. It relates to I guess the values of the country at in terms of how we how the government invest in economic well-being. There is too much of an emphasis on corporate wellbeing with the notion that they will create some dinosaurs. It's supposed to trickle down to all of us as opposed to investing in people almost treasured resource, and that that will create a dinosaur that creates an infrastructure that makes us more resilient to pandemic to a climate catastrophe or any other economic downturn to make this more concrete. Supply side economics after forty five or fifty years of failure I loved it movements are starting to bubble push back on that. We're realizing that that that is only related to our productivity gains going to the elite and not being widely dispersed in contrast we have precedent with a new deal era where we invested in people not only do we grow the economy we also grew real wages. Of course, there were some problems with the new deal we could. We didn't do it in a racially inclusive way in a Lotta ways. Well, that's a very interesting point. FDR Wasn't necessarily a very progressive precedent when he came men, but with enormous pressure from the people around him, of course. He is known for the new deal, but can you talk about the gaps? Can you talk about for example, the ratio wealth gap and you think that Joe Biden if he were president could go through that kind of transformation. Bernie Sanders said You know we're going to support him now, and then on November fourth we we're going to fight to ensure you know the platform that we originally put forward that has to do with green new deal that do with Medicare for all. Do you see that in Joe Biden, kind of open door rather than a wall? And can talk about the racial wealth gap and how it needs to be addressed. A lot of ways irrespective of the president. I. Love The line that f the are had when he was responding. Progressive Ed. As you alluded to make me do it and that's what social movements before. So November four, th I love the Bernie Sanders said we will be right back out there we will make biden the do it, but you know first and foremost Donald Trump needs to get removed to office that has to be a priority, and then after that I agree we should make them do it and as it relates to the racial wealth gap. I'm glad you brought that up. The new deal in the postwar policies are largely responsible for the racial wealth gap that exists today are catch Nelson, and his title book would affirmative action was white describe how policy by design and implementation was racist even though it was universal. So for example, if you have social security in the Wagner Act excluding domestic and agricultural workers whom at the time. Seventy percent of black women working were were in those fields. I'm sorry, ninety percent, not seventy percent for black men. It was over half that was five design racist, and then when you have a Jim Crow infrastructure implementing the policies without federal oversight that is by implementation races. So today with AOL see was talking about in in her eloquent beautiful inspire in. One minute a those who took a little longer than one minute was an economic rights frame but not just economic rights brain and economic rights. Frame grounded injustice that is actively anti-racist actively anti-sexist. That's the evolution in a economic rights platform that's not passive but. By design and implementation ensuring that all groups regardless of identity are included. And speaking of economic rights you have favored the enactment of a federal jobs guarantee which many critics say, Eh, pie in the sky. But you point that there's been historical precedent to that in the Humphrey Hawkins Act. If you could talk about that also about your support of baby bonds and what exactly that would mean. To federal job guarantee I think the best precedent is the new deal itself the WPA the CCC. Infrastructure in our country today whether it's art whether it's A. Big. Monuments of art. Highway Bridges. ETC Universities. I'm from Brooklyn Brooklyn College and look at all the buildings that were erected as part of the WPA that are still relevant today. There's a project called the living new deal that goes beyond physical infrastructure and gives personal narratives about the ways in which people's lives were were were transformed as a result of the new deal and speaking with Senator Sanders, you know I was. Kissing the federal job guarantee out conversation. He had a great response. He's like, yeah, that's all great about what the new deal did in the past for America. But I like the framing of reimagining the future that we want and deserve and that's the point to me. You know we put bounds on our imagination of what we can do, but we can invest in the infrastructure that's not only physical but care infrastructure. And as you cited earlier. I don't know if it would you you want or any, but a green new deal where we could ensure that our economy is resilient to climate catastrophe and calamity of coming up in the future. In essence, we could offer a guaranteed job to anyone who desires to work towards building out physical. Infrastructure, and eliminate the threat of unemployment for existing workers you can. We know that if you are I give this example if you are a waitress putting up with sexual harassment on a daily basis, you have less agency if the employer can threaten you with taking that job away and then you're not able to feed your children that should be eliminated have better bargaining powers so that workers aren't completely at the whim of their employer. So did they have a viable turning? With a living wage with living with good working conditions and we can do this we we can do this and there is a need because we can just look at this pandemic and seed it out public health infrastructure wasn't ready. There's lots of work that can be created and people on local levels will know better with community needs. So so that's the case for federal job guarantee what baby bombs is, let let let me start and say that the source of inequality in. America. especially, in the domain of well, is that some people have access to a capital foundation did affords them the ability to invest in an asset that will passively appreciate over their lifetime big shot out to cory booker and Yana Presley were twin companion bills promoting a baby von legislation would it saying it's as a birthright everyone in America gets capital and that capital a seated. Position The financial position born in irrespective of their gender or their race. We know that an I don't want to talk too much in the show and make sure there's adequate time for conversation. So please interrupt me if I'm droning on but let me say that we know that families even within. Household make decisions on who they leave endowments to based on the sex of their child. So this is a counter intuitive policy that says we will endow you at birth with an account that will be managed by the federal government dislike social security. It's like building economic security over the life course so that when you become a young adult. Not We won't just have subsistence policy for you, but we'll have some nest egg so that you can have the ability to purchase a home. In best in business or finance a debt free education the difference between a renter in a homeowner in America is one had a down payment. The other one didn't. So this provides every American, would at least an opportunity for asset accumulation over their life course dark Hamilton we want to thank you so much for being with us, incoming founding director of the newly created Institute for the Study of. Race stratification political economy at the new school. He'll also be the Henry Cohen Professor of Economics and Urban Policy there Professor Hamilton was a surrogate economic advisor on Bernie Sanders Twenty Twenty presidential campaign. Also one of the sender's appointees member to the Biden Sanders, Joint Task Force after break we speak with another person part of that Task Force Varsha precaut- Co founder of the sunrise movement stay with us. Aw. Off. Staring at the Sun by TV on the radio, this is democracy. Now we are breaking with convention I'm Amy Goodman with Juan Gonzalez. The Democratic National Committee has dropped a pledge to eliminate tax breaks and subsidies for the fossil fuel industry from its party platform. The change was announced on Tuesday saying DNC, spokesperson claimed the amendment was originally included in error despite both presidential nominee Joe Biden and his running mate Kamala, Harris supporting it on the campaign trail it wasn't announced, but it was reported in the media among the places huff Po this can't come as a historic heatwave and more. Than thirty wildfires royal. The State of California and Iowa struggles to recover from a hurricane strength windstorm. Last week for more on how the DNC is tackling the climate crisis we go to Boston where we're joined by Varsha precaut- head of the DNC she was on the Biden. Sanders. Unity. Task Force and she's the CO founder and Executive Director of the Sunrise Movement. She's also co editor of the forthcoming book winning the Green New Deal during the Democratic primary campaign the Sunrise Movement endorsed Bernie Sanders President gave Joe Biden's climate plan an f rating. We welcome you back. Varsha to democracy now. It's great to have you with us. Can you assess the democratic? National. Convention so far. And talk about where the Green, new? Deal Fits in here but I this is breaking news yesterday that they were dropping this issue of the fossil fuel subsidies explain what happened. Yeah. No it certainly disappointing to see I mean the US spends roughly tens of billions of dollars each year essentially propping up the fossil fuel industry. So it can continue its dangerous burning out the coal oil and gas that is threatening our future. And during this pandemic, you know Donald Trump has a lot of dollars into continuing to support the fossil fuel industry at the expense of of renewable. Energy companies. And what's interesting is also that a provision to eliminate tax breaks and subsidies was included in the two thousand sixteen platform in fact, and so just be essentially a continuation of an agreement that was reached about four years ago when Clinton was the nominee. So I'm not sure entirely what happened. Perhaps there was internal pushback or something on I think as you mentioned before the hopeful side of all of this is that there has been an. Vocal Frustration and disappointment from a number of climate and environmental organizations, and also that you know the elimination of fossil fuel subsidies is is heavily supported by Biden and Harris in their lot in their climate plans. So I think as long as it continues to be a priority for movements and it will be a priority for Biden administrations should they win in November? precaut-. What is your sense after spending several weeks in negotiations between the the Sanders and Biden camps in terms of a programmatic efforts that key sections of the green new deal will be implemented? How much do you fear of the of a Biden's opening to the progressive movement is borer reflection of his attempt to assure the support of that movement for his reelection and how much of it do you sense as genuine? Now, it's a great question. I mean I i. think we push them a lot during the process of the Task Force I had a couple of specific goals. One we had to improve an increase the ambition that Joe Biden was putting forward on his client plan I getting to one hundred percent renewable energy by twenty fifty is is absolutely impermissible for island. Nations for young people who are growing up at a true crossroads between chaos and destruction and a livable planet right now, and so we pushed him be and some pretty significant victories. We were able to move up the timeline on decarbonising the electricity sector by fifteen years. So now the binding administration is committing to one hundred percent clean electricity by twenty, thirty five. We have a vision to move. To one hundred percent new zero emission buildings by twenty thirty and a commitment to sit down with Labor leaders as soon as the by within months of of of of the inauguration. To set standards for zero emission vehicles. And also a big priority was ensuring that climate and environmental justice was essential piece of everything related to the climate plan. So this isn't particularly a were specifically named in the DNC plan but in Joe Biden's recovery effort plan for the pandemic he does talk about how he's moving from a one point seven trillion dollar green jobs and infrastructure plan over ten years to a two trillion dollar plan over four years, which is significant and has also committed that forty percent. Of, the investment towards Green Jobs and infrastructure will specifically go towards frontline and environmental justice communities, which is huge. So these are some of the things that I think one I feel very excited about those I think that the plan is really pro-labour as well. I think you know none of this is a shirty. Right. As soon as the task I recommendations came out, we saw the fossil fuel industry spokespeople coming out and saying, well, he's just catering to the left on the route to because it's still the election but as soon as. He wins the nomination. As soon as he wins presidents the Z. He will have to hear to the fuss funeral and he will have to. Water down many of the proposals that he's talking about. So I think this is going to move very quickly from a question of. Policy to power and I. think that is why we've got to keep up the pressure both internally with people like Alexandra, Cortez than newly-elected folks like Jamal Bowmen Corey Bush in Mandera Jones, etc. but also we've gotta make sure maintain and a really really high level of external pressure as well and ensure that we are pushing this president and not just sort of doing what we did with Obama and leaving it at the door but actually upping the ante and increasing the level of pressure on this Democratic president to actually push a lot of these policy provisions that he's agreed to across the. Finish. Line. And could you talk about the the reality that we're coming up against an election in the midst of a pandemic and also of amid some continuing extreme weather situation? The the storms in Iowa and this amazing record heat over the weekend and Death Valley one, hundred, thirty degrees. I mean scientists are. Scientists. Are saying this might be one of the hottest years on record which I feel like I am hearing virtually we every year. We are seeing. We have leaders in Cedar rapids who are e mailing us. Requesting donations asking us to match. Donations to them and other black lives matter organizations that they're working alongside. There are thousands of people who are still without power one week out, and there's a lot of reports that show that the governor and. The government Iwa has has has has not. Acted with. Enough urgency following the disaster, which is something. We've seen a number of other kinds of disasters over the last few years. Our government's not taking the response seriously enough and and acting swiftly. So I think we're at a real. The many crises that we are facing in this nation, we are at a fever pitch right we are at a fever pitch with the climate crisis. It is emerging into a full blown eve -mergency We have an economic does die nosedive with tens of millions of people who are out of work. We are in the midst of an uprising and ongoing uprising against wight supremacy in this nation and I think it is time for something like a green new deal in this country that is actually putting forward a vision for how we tackle both the injustices of the climate crisis. An economic inequality and racial injustice at the same time and not see these issues. As as separate version. Tonight Kamla Harris. Will give her since speech she did endorse green new deal the green new deal on medicare for all are not being talked about so far at the Democratic convention as. As, a South Asian American yourself, can you talk about the significance of? Kamala. Harris. Yeah, know. It's fascinating her mother's actually from the same town that my that my dad grew up in India best inaugur. So it's kind of incredible to see someone like that on on the national stage. When it comes to the climate crisis I think Kamala Harris has has has been fairly responsive to activists and movement pressured to make climate change a top priority she took the no fossil fuel money pledged has sworn off of oil and gas donations as part of her campaign. She did as you mentioned, run on Greenie deals part of her platform and I think you mentioned it more than almost any other candidate during the presidential debates. She has worked with Representative Cossio Cortez to develop leads. That kind of ensures that investments made around Grigny deal prioritized front line communities. So I think we've seen a lot of responsiveness from her. I think we're also worried that aware of Senator Harris very complicated history and record as a prosecutor which you all have have discussed many times on this show. And the ways in which a number of those decisions have have really hard communities of color. So we've spoken about about that in the past and will continue to I. Think we'll continue to work alongside justice organizations to hold her as well as vice president. Biden accountable. But I think it will be a huge huge deal to have the first black, the first Indian the first woman. Vice President of the United States of America should she in Vice President, Biden win in the next few months Barsha precaut- WanNa. Thank you for being with US CO founder and Executive Director of the Sunrise Movement Co Editor of the forthcoming book winning the Green New Deal. This is democracy. Now where breaking with convention I mainly Goodman with Juan Gonzalez after massive. Public outcry against cuts to the US Postal Service. Ahead of the Election Postmaster General Louis Joy announced Tuesday. He will suspend the changes to the USPS until after the election when a record number of voters are expected to cast ballots by Mail House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called the joys move insufficient saying it failed to reverse damage already done to the US post. Office Has Co. the House back into session for an urgent vote on the Postal Service scheduled for Saturday president trump admitted last week, he's working to undermine the USPS in order to make it harder to vote by mail for the election. For more, we go to Lisa Graves in Wisconsin she's executive director of the Policy Research Group True North author of the New Report for in the public interest that looks at the billionaire behind efforts to kill the US Postal Service we only have five minutes Lisa graves but can you lay out what's going on and the deep concern that? Yes Louis Joy who has with his wife something like seventy five to one hundred million dollars invested in competitors and contractors the US Postal Service. That already major changes have taken place there just revoking the ones that were leading up to the election though they say they'll introduce them right after. Well that's right. Amy and I think that we're at a true crisis point in terms of our democracy and with our postal service, and that's because we have the most partisan person. In one hundred years at least ahead that the postal service eluded joy who has deep financial conflicts and deep personal ties to President Trump This is also being. Pushed forward by Mike Duncan who was a major fundraiser for Mitch McConnell. The Senate leadership. Fund and as a right wing partisan who helps standup American crossroads and also at the instigation in essence. Steve. MNUCHIN who has tried to push additional pressure on the puzzle service in essence in my view to accomplish what really is Charles long term goal of privatizing our postal service. So we have a deep crisis in our country of the announcement by the postmaster reverse of the things that have already happened that he's already implemented including the removal of many mail sorting machines. And so we need to really hold this puzzle solvers accountable. Actually I think joint needs to be Louis Jordan as we removed and we need to reform the postal service. So we do not have two of the most partisan men ever at the helm Ar- postal service that poses belongs to us even though Charles Coke documented in the public interest and bold rethink That organization has been targeted by Charles Cook for privatization since the Nineteen Seventies. So I'm hoping that the members of Congress will respond to citizens who are clamoring to protect our postal service. Make sure we get our bail our ballots on time. Make sure we get medicines on time and checks on time and really reformed the postal service and get the money it needs to survive and thrive in this current crisis. In a few minutes we have left. Could you talk a little bit more about this this hidden effort by Charles Coke to privatize the postal service that has gone on almost unknown by most Americans for so long? Yes I was really surprised that he really began taking the men urging for the postal service to be privatized in the nineteen seventies and when he became the biggest funder for the Libertarian Party in Nineteen, seventy six, it's platform expressly called for the abolition of the Postal Service. Then in nineteen eighty when his brother ran for vice president of the Libertarian Party also called. For the abolition, the Postal Service. Then he helps stand up with the Reagan Administration of Privatization Commission with his right hand man on it, which again called for abolition the Postal Service and then they brought on board to citizens for a sound economy, which is now Americans for prosperity of the leading advocate of privatizing the postal service who then George W Bush put on. The Board of governors the postal service in two thousand and three, and that man James Miller helped push through the terrible law in two thousand six that saddled the postal service with. Unprecedented debt to pay for decades of future retiree health benefits, and that's the debt that has really Hampered the postal service ability to have. A better financial position and also limited from opening banks and offering banking services as well as increasing the rates of first class mail beyond a penny a year, and so that really throttled the postal service in. That's the long term. 'CAUSE basically prepare for privatization, which is Charles Coates longtime goal. Spin it also already the effect right now, the Department of Veterans Affairs has been forced to find other ways to ship metal order prescriptions, vets all over this country, and it's not only that so many people rely on the postal service just to get medicine. Yes, it's a true crisis and I think that if the joy thinks that he can issue a press statement and walk away from the damage, he's caused he's wrong of the American people are not going to tolerate the destructor postal service millions of Americans on it and small cities and big towns for medicines and checks, and we needed to work properly need fully funded. We needed to have coronavirus relief just like other businesses and entities America. Finally, who Charles Coaches? Pros Coke is one of the richest men in the world. He's one of the richest men in America and he leads. Coke Industries, which is one of the largest privately held corporations in the world which are the long record of using its fun to advance his political causes were you surprised that? The postal service turned around to the extent. It did yesterday I. Mean we're talking about. Massive outcry even Donald Trump who's bidding joy was doing TWEET IT OUT SAVE THE POST OFFICE Yeah, they're clearly hearing the heat. So the question of close said is, will they reverse the things that have happened not just stop doing it stopping it we've already the damage done. The question is a true reversal to the status quo before joy became the postmaster general this Summer Lisa Grace thank you so much for being with us and we have to stop saying November as the election because people who vote by mail are voting in the next weeks and that goes on for more than a month. Lisa Graves Executive Director of the policy. Research Group true north with a new report will link to the billionaire behind efforts to kill the. US Postal. Service that does it for our broadcast democracy. Now, it's produced with Mike Burke grenade feldstein Augusta be raining shake Marietta Cena Carla Wills Tammy, enough, Tarini Durga Malkov Tamraz to John Hamilton Rabbi tarrant honey Masuda. Special thanks to Julie Crosby made me Goodman. Gonzales stay safe.

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"<music> from new york this is democracy now hearing that the trump i'm pat ministration wants to expedite executions at the federal level. I have seen from death row in d._c. N and texas complete arbitrariness curry nasa who gets the death penalty even though the criteria supposed to be the worst of the worst and in fact. It's always people were poor and almost always people who kill white people as the trump administration moves to restore the federal death penalty. We'll speak with sister. Helen per sean leading death penalty activists the the academy award winning film dead man walking was based on her life but first we speak to pulitzer prize winning. Journalist onion is audio about how corruption eruption violence and u._s. Foreign policy are fueling the migrant crankiest mostly fleeing some of the most violent countries on earth honduras el salvador guatemala and in recent years. I focus on the most vulnerable of those who are coming here. From central america immigrant children five live ten twelve year old kids who are trying to get into the united states and flee that violence all that and more coming up welcome to democracy now democracy now dot org the warren peace report. I'm amy goodman. Flights zoomed at hong kong international airport after it was effectively shut down for two days due at a takeover by pro democracy protesters tuesday saw new clashes between protesters and police with several arrests taking place to men who are suspected of being undercover officers from mainland china were beaten by a group of protesters. One of the men turned out to be a reporter for the communist party newspaper global times. Some of the protesters apologized wednesday for the disruption at the airport a post on a messaging channel that was widely reposted. He posted read quote. We apologize for our behavior but we're just too scared are police shot us government portrayed us. Social institutions failed us. Please help thus they said hong kong's beijing line chief executive carrie lam warned tuesday the protests are pushing hong kong onto a path of no return while china condemned the airport demonstrations as near terrorist acts. Meanwhile photo showing chinese military tanks lining up in shenzhen near the hong kong border started to spread tuesday raising fears of a possible military crackdown china's official state newspaper. The people's daily published a statement saying the people's armed police are ready ready to counteract quote riots disturbance major violence and crime and terror related social security issues unquote on tuesday president trump tweeted intelligence allegiance has informed us that the chinese government is moving troops to the border with hong kong. Everyone should be calm and safe. Trump tweeted democratic connecticut senator under chris murphy tweeted in response. This is not foreign policy following condemnation of the new trump administration rule limiting permanent status for low income immigrants acting director of citizenship and immigration services cancun l._a. Attempted to defend the new policy by rewriting the iconic emma lazarus poem on the statue of liberty. This is generally speaking to n._p._r.'s rachel martin. Would you also agree that emma. Lazarus's words etched on the statue of liberty. He give me your tired. Your poor are also part of the american ethos oh they certainly are give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not it become a public charge that that plaque was put on the statue of liberty at almost the same time as the first public charge law was passed on tuesday night coochie. Anneli defended his comments in an interview with c._n._n.'s erin burnett suggesting emma. Lazarus's poem was written about quote people coming from europe. One of jeffrey epstein's accusers is suing his longtime associated accused accomplice ghislaine maxwell and three other members of his household staff and the first lawsuit of its kind since the accused serial sex trafficker died by apparent suicide and his new york jail also saturday jennifer arose has accused epstein of raping her when she was just fifteen years old she says dealing maxwell and the other unnamed staff members facilitated take the abuse. It's one of the first lawsuits to be filed under. New york's child victims act which takes effect today. Meanwhile questions are mounting surrounding being epstein's death. The warden at the metropolitan correctional center in manhattan has since been reassigned and two guards who are tasked with monitoring epstein were put on leave reports emerged tuesday. The guards arts may have been sleeping during their ship failing to check on epstein for three hours and then falsifying time logs. They were supposed to check on him. Every thirty minutes facility which is housed many high profile prisoners has been plagued with reports of understaffing overcrowding dire conditions for years. The mexican drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman called the person torture the f._b._i. The justice department and the house judiciary committee have launched investigations into epstein's death in related news. The f._b._i.'s rated jeffrey epstein's private arrive at caribbean island the f._b._i. Search is being overseen by the attorney's office for southern district of new york on monday attorney general william bars short epsteins accusers the case against obscene would not end with his death and that quote any co conspirators should not rest easy. Meanwhile the flurry of speculations arose after it was revealed that a four chan user sir posted about jeffrey epstein's death thirty eight minutes before the news became public on media outlets. The poster revealed information surrounding sounding the death suggesting they may have been a first responder or otherwise present at the scene when epsteins body was first discovered the new york city fire department said they investigated aided the case and determine the information did not come from within their department epstein claimed net worth more than half a billion dollars when asking to be released on bail but lawyers for his accusers user say they suspect his network to be much higher and they'll look to offshore bank accounts epsteins closest allies including his brother. Mark epstein for additional assets sets the wall street. Journal reports brothers are connected financially through investments in two hundred unit condo on the upper east side of manhattan condo building lawyer lawyer. Lisa bloom told the journal quote. We're just getting started to see our two thousand thirteen interview with mark epstein on an unrelated issue about about cooper union go to democracy now dot org at the time. He was chair of the board of trustees of cooper union. That's mark epstein. Jeffrey epstein's brother president trump is delayed ten percent tariff on some chinese goods including cell phones laptop computers shoes toys until december fifteenth other products so be spared from the tariffs altogether trump is repeatedly claimed tariffs would only harm chinese producers but appeared to shift his rhetoric slightly tuesday in around one hundred twelve billion dollars of chinese goods will be hit with the plan ten percent tariff in september last week. The treasury department designated china a currency manipulator after weakened its currency to an eleven year low in environmental news. A group of twenty two states six cities in the district of columbia. Assume the trump administration tuesday attempt to block the rollback of obama era regulations on emissions from coal fired power plants. The new rules were announced by the environmental protection agency agency in june and allow states to set their own regulations for emissions and decide whether coal fired plants should make improvements obama's clean power plan sought to lower or carbon emissions through federal regulations but the plan never took effect due to multiple legal challenges. The new lawsuit claims e._p._a. Has a duty under the clean air act to limit carbon emissions uh-huh letitia james the attorney general for new york said in a statement quote without significant course correction were careening towards a climate disaster rather than staying the course with policies aimed at fixing the problem and protecting people's health safety and the environment the trump administration repealed the clean power act and replaced it with this dirty power rules rules. She said in brazil two thousand indigenous women gathered in the capital brasilia this week to protest the policies of far-right president show your sonata hundreds occupied health ministry building tuesday as they demanded the government respect indigenous rights on amazon. This is joanna weapon janus the first indigenous this woman elected to the brazilian congress. He'll care weeks ago. Test is an important to defend the rights of indigenous peoples. We're are under a series of systematic violent attacks. There's the lack of demarcation of indigenous lands the issue of health education. This is all endanger. We're we are fighting against privatizing for fairer and quality education pakistan's prime minister. Iran con is in kashmir today amidst tensions with india over its move last sweet revoking. The special status of the indian-controlled part of the muslim-majority region in indian-administered kashmir remains on lockdown pakistan is calling for the u._n. Security council to to meet over the escalating situation which it says poses an imminent threat to peace in the region and could lead to ethnic cleansing genocide if a major military confrontation erupts during his visit imran khan condemned india's actions but said quote. We're not at war with india where against its ideology. He said amnesty international tuesday urged n._d._a. To lift its restrictions on movement and communications and kashmir warning that quote a complete clamp down on civil liberties those only likely to increase tensions alienate the people and increase the risk of further human rights violations. The family of saudi women's rights activists lucina half. Lulu says she was offered a released from prison in exchange for taping taping a video retracting accusations she was tortured in jail and offer she rejected hustle was arrested in may of last year along with four other women activists. She led a movement to lift a ban on female drivers and overhaul the male guardianship system in saudi arabia according to human rights groups and her family flew has since been held in solitary confinement and has been subjected to abuse including electric shocks flogging and threats of sexual violence half sibling say crown prince mohammad bin salman former top advisor visor pseudo kotani who has been implicated in the washington post columnist jamal khashoggi. She's murder was present while she was being tortured and threatened to rape and kill her to see our interview with jane's brother and sister lead and lena lou go to democracy now dot org opera superstar placido domingo is facing allegations of sexual misconduct in the workplace from at least nine women spending a period of thirty years the women say demingo regulate harass them and try to pressure them into sexual relationship nations ship several save forcibly kiss them or touch them without consent in some cases. He called them incessantly at home including late night. Seven of the nine accusers say their careers were negatively. Get daily affected after they resisted his advances domingo known by many as one of the three tenors is currently the director conductor of the los angeles opera. The opera said it would hire an outside investigator to look into the claims. He's canceled his tour c._b._s. Viacom announced tuesday they would rejoin forces after splitting in two thousand six six. The two companies along with paramount pictures studio are attempting to head off competition from entertainment giants like disney and streaming services including net flex. The deal is the latest megamerger the merger in the media world after a._t. Acquire time warner for eighty billion dollars and disney took over twenty first century fox business for over seventy billion dollars last year and starting today survivors of childhood sexual abuse in new york who previously could not bring their perpetrators to court due to statute of limitations will now be able to do so as the new child victims act goes into effect the new law allows prosecutors to bring criminal charges against alleged abusers until the accuser turns twenty eight while accusers accuser can file a civil lawsuit until they reached the age of fifty five in addition so-called look back window will allow accusers of any age to bring charges against their alleged perpetrators but traders no matter how long ago the abuse occurred for a period of one year starting today this is new york lieutenant governor kathleen hokuto speaking tuesday tuesday the perpetrators child molester child abusers the child predators made individuals broke with with adults with the worst nightmares. You can imagine today your victims will be your worst nightmare because starting reading tomorrow they will see you in court and i don't care if you're hiding a rectory somewhere during a rocking chair in florida you will be found and you will be brought to justice. It starts tomorrow here. In new york that new york lieutenant governor kathy focal new york is the fifth state to apply the look back window legal experts same major institutions that have faced sexual abuse scandals in recent years including the catholic church new yorker likely to face a litany of lawsuits and those are some of the headlines insist democracy now democracy now dot or the warren peace report. I'm amy goodman. Juan gonzalez welcome to all of our viewers across the country and around the world. Give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free the wretched refuse of your teaming shore. Send these the homeless tempest toss to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door. Those are the words of emma lazarus inscribed on the statue of liberty well this week. The acting director of citizenship and immigration services services can kucha attempted to rewrite the poem in an effort to make a case for limiting immigration to the united states. This is could cinelli speak into n._p._r.'s ars rachel martin tuesday. Would you also agree that emma. Lazarus's words etched on the statue of liberty. Give me your tired. Your poor are also part of the american. He does <hes> they certainly are give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge that that plaque was it was put on the statue of liberty at almost the same time as the first public charge law was passed very interesting timing ten. Kuchi nellie made the comment. I'm an -oday after the trump. Administration announced a new rule that would make it harder for undocumented low income immigrants or documented low income immigrants to stay in the country the so-called public charge rule would penalize immigrants seeking benefits including medicaid food stamps and housing vouchers by allowing officials to deny green green cards and visa applications those individuals to on tuesday night. Cancun ellie defended his comments in an interview with c. n. N.'s erin burnett and what do you think america stands for well of course that poem was referring back to people coming from europe where they had class based societies where people were considered wretched. If they weren't in the right class well we turn now to the pulitzer. Prize winning reporter sung in this idea who's closely documented why migrants from central america are fleeing their homes earlier this year nevada has spent a month in hunduras documenting how corruption and gang violence or forcing many people to leave. She recently wrote a better trip in a piece headlined pay or died in the new york times. Saudi won a pulitzer prize in two thousand three for reporting on what became her claimed book and the journey a story of a boy's dangerous oughta see to reunite with his mother so you nevada welcome back to democracy now before we talk to this talk about this remarkable piece you wrote if you could respond to president. Trump's immigrations are coochie nellie rewriting the words of emma lazarus's poem well. I think most americans disagree with him and <hes> it's it's a wholesale attempt to change who's allowed into this country. Hey we give us your rich. Don't give us your poor and of course this is contrary to the entire tradition of immigration to the united states so this is is what the administration is attempting to do and then saying in fact. Those words were written about europeans. That's right well. Those the the time they were largely europeans who were coming but in nineteen sixty five we changed our immigration laws to amplify who could come to this country <hes> legally early and that is the law of the land on tuesday. President trump was asked to respond to cancun alley's comment about america our taxpayer paying for people to come into the country and immediately go on to welfare and various other things so i think we're doing the solana's are your response to the president's comments well. The reality is that immigrants who come here legally are no more likely to be on welfare them people who are born in this country so you're you're. You're again targeting immigrants. You're scapegoating immigrants and the reality is that <hes> immigrants who have come to this country whether they are poor or rich are what have made america great well. I wanted to get to to your piece that appeared in the new york times recently a payer die and here in the united states we hear a lot about gang violence fooling some of the migration or a much of the migration coming from a central america people don't really understand what that means and you've done in a remarkable effort here to actually go into what actually is happening you you mentioned that since two thousand ten fifteen fifteen hundred hondurans who work in transportation have been murdered shot strangled cuff to the steering wheel burned alive by these gangs thanks because they did not pay <hes> the <hes> the bribes that they were supposed to pay to be able to keep operating transporting people. You talk about this whole issue of well. How transportation especially in honduras has become this saw this goldmine for the street gangs that's right. I was focusing and one on the role of corruption in these countries like honduras and <hes> that that's really the swamp that we have to clean up if we want to help up clean up in an attempt to slow this this influx of people who are who are coming to our southern border <hes> many it's the corruption is what it allows all the other bad things to happen. Including gangs imposing this reign of terror in these neighborhoods and charging this war tax this extortion tax from anything anything with wheels buses taxis motorcycle taxis and forbidden from businesses in the neighborhood where i spent time one in four businesses <hes> was paying a war tax to the gang and one in four businesses had shut down completely because they could no longer pay the war tax so this is paralyzing the economy so i wanted to show what this was like for these bus owners who are basically told by the gangs. You have to pay up on monday morning every monday morning. Thousands of bus owners are going out and delivering these chunks these bricks of cash to these gangs were they are murdered if they say no a and along a bus route of any driver refuses to pay they'll just kill a driver randomly and so this is what i saw that in just the capital of honduras these he's <hes> these gangs are receiving are being paid an estimated twenty three million dollars a year in these war taxes. We're gonna a break and then come back to hear your description. I mean this month. You spent in honduras not only you covering people risking their own lives or people who were murdered but but you yourself risked your life. We're talking to send in this audio. The pulitzer prize winning journalist author of journey <hes> she just did a piece in the new york times about her <hes> trip to honduras call hey or die stay with us <music> <music> <music> <music> ooh absence a- view by via lobos brothers. This is democracy now. Democracy now dot org the warrant piece report. I mean the goodman with one gonzales. Why do people come to this country. We're talking to sing in his audio. The pulitzer prize winning journalist arthur in the journey the story of boys dangerous odyssey to reunite with us mother. She just wrote a new york times op ed piece <hes> the cover story story for the new york times pay or die m._s. Thirteen eighteenth street gangsters wanna run honduras cutting off american aid isn't isn't going to stop them a sonia. You describe hunchine down behind a bus driver as he's about to make take one of these payments. Just take us on that journey what happened. Why were you hiding. I wanted to see what it was like to make one of these payments ayman's by these bus owners and so i went along one of them offered for me to go along as he made the cash drop so we hopped in to his <hes> a small black car and he drove to a place where he picked up a brick of cash basically six hundred and fifty dollars and he was paying for his his three buses and a total ah fifty five buses just for that week to one gang the eighteenth street gang one of the two largest gangs in honduras in central america and we hop in his his car we we get the brick of cash from the bus dispatcher and then we start driving up this hill into this neighborhood called less baba's which is an eighteenth street stronghold and as we're going up this hill <hes> there are these gang lookouts heavily armed with ak forty sevens watching and as we reach the top of these two gangsters easters appear out of nowhere and i'm crouching in the backseat wheel well trying to tape this on my iphone with my hand up to the <hes> window with my iphone but he the driver rolls down the window. Two inches shoves this a brick of cash through the window and <hes> these two gangsters disappear and this cash will go through many hands until it reaches <hes> gang leader but this type of transaction is happening with thousands of bus bus owners every monday morning monday. Morning is the day to pay the gangs and many of these bus drivers pay one three even six gangs things to not be killed and this is this is what's driving a lot of despair in a place like honduras that <hes> because the ah police are paid off by the gangs because the politicians are paid off by the gangs because thirty to forty percent of all the revenues of the government <hes> are estimated it to be siphoned off and corruption by all of these players <hes> that the whole system is rotten and that there's no hope that things will change in a place like like hondas we'll sonia you mentioned the <hes> the corruption at the highest levels of the government that allowed this to continue and you document in your story some of the outright outright theft that occurred by some of the current president's families a nonprofit groups in honduras have revealed but around around the same time came this new filing in the court case of of of the president of honduras his brother one antonio head non this who's uh who's under indictment right now in jail for drug trafficking and one of the one of the amazing things about this this new filing by the f._b._i. Is that they specifically name. <hes> as two co-conspirators not only the current president of water orlando anonymous but what the previous president porfirio lobo and they are actually named as having been participants in discussions with drug dealers in receiving campaign contributions contributions and promising to protect <hes> to protect of the drug operations so you're if if this indictment is accurate here it has become a nocco state in in effect at the top while at the at the bottom of society all of these gangs terrorising the people with government consent percent. I'm wondering your reaction to this latest filing by the federal government <hes> narcos state supported by the united states so there's two ways to <hes> to ah to <hes> to steal money in honduras you either take money from the narco cartels or you steal from the public coffers and the system mm for doing that in recent years has been set up these these real or fake nonprofits <hes> where you send government business but but in reality you're not doing anything for that or you're doing less than you should be doing in terms of providing services for the poor and honduras and it's alleged that members members of the president's <hes> and the president <hes> are involved in both of these <hes> so you have the president's brother being arrested less this year in november for moving according to the allegations in the u._s. tons of cocaine over more than a decade to the united states and labeling it brazenly t h tony nana's with the bricks of cocaine with his initials and you have allegations that the president sister ilda on on this <hes> she she died in a helicopter accident 2017 but that she had siphoned off twelve million dollars from the ministry of agriculture are into to nonprofits that basically did no work they were supposed to train people to produce more crops in the countryside but instead that she used that money for the president's <hes> campaign in two thousand thirteen to become president juan orlando and she used it for personal reasons and now this bombshell allegation that the president what the president basically took money from the narcos for his twenty-three presidential campaign so the president was in washington dc yesterday and there were a lot of tongues. He's wagging in honduras wondering what he was doing there. And of course you have <hes> the very questionable election that took place with massive protests s. throughout honduras that went on for week after week when he <hes> supposedly one against us ryan this goes back to two thousand nine <hes> what would the us backed coup against the democratically elected president zelaya democracy now followed him back into honduras when he finally finely returned. I want to turn to the ousted president's eliah coordinator founder and opposition party libra. We spoke to him last month. They're they're going to look for some solution to the system that is provoking the migrants because everyone talks about migration but the causes says migration that easter are the u._s. Policies the i._m._f. Policies the policies of the southern then command for this region provoking more and more migrants with each passing day so militarizing central america militarizing honduras yet they a new it means that that escape out that people have had which is to be able to get work in the united states level scout soon zone moving again and one hundred people haven't even looked for jobs in the united states and is the u. S. businesses u._s. businesses for example large orange crops and cannot pay a u._s. person to work in the countryside they give the travel expenses to the family members of those who are their employees and that is why does massive migration to work in the united states now. That's ousted did <hes> president li- just recently speaking to us a sonya's audio <hes> if you could comment on that and in your piece what happens when people refused refused to pay you talk about the murders and also if you can talk about the issue of really what you describe describe as femicide when you go to the third largest city in honduras that has the highest number of femicides the murders of of women well when people refused to pay i send my reporting on corruption in a neighborhood called no yup and the capital of honduras which i've been going to for twenty years years and there was a woman at the top of the hill in a neighborhood dominated by eighteenth street. They demand payments from all these mom and pop stores every week. You have have to fork over half of your earnings every day to the gang and she had said. I'm not gonna pay anymore. You go make 'em go earn some money on your own and they had sent us guys yo a killer from another part of town so she wouldn't recognize this man and he came up to her storefront and ordered some orange juice and as she came back with with his change <hes> he shot her in the face and she stumbled back towards the back bedroom towards her four year old daughter who was sleeping in the bedroom she she died. I chart of reaching her daughter. That's what happens and people know that this is what happens to people who refuse to pay the gangs and so i also reported in a previous story this year and the new york times about why so many women are fleeing and increasingly the narco cartels and the gangs are recruiting women <hes> some join because there are no other jobs in these neighborhoods in the neighborhood. I was in eighteen to twenty five year old. Half of them are unemployed and so <hes> so join willingly to sell drugs some are forced to sell drugs and when they try to leave that life or leave being the girlfriend of a gang leader <hes> they error murdered and i saw what i saw in honduras was that four of ten women when they are killed they are killed with the brutality that far exceeds what is needed to kill them there. It's a message. They are so shot in the vagina. They are cut to bits. They are skinned alive. I was having horrible nightmares. I'm in therapy now. After returning from honduras the stories that i heard of what happened to these women one woman described described it as if you're a chicken they strip you of all of your parts and the government and the police don't take the claims of domestic violence seriously. They say well just resolve it between the sheets. Maybe you didn't give him last night what he needed. Maybe you fed him something. He didn't like last night for dinner and so <hes> and most of these crimes <hes> get no conviction nine out of ten of these murders of women get no conviction and so the gangs narc oh cartels tells know that they can get away with this <hes> to address your previous point you know the u._s. has assorted history and latin america and <hes> we we can go back one hundred years with united fruit and dominance of these countries by u._s. Companies and replacing presidents at were going to be good for u._s. Businesses and more recently suddenly in two thousand and nine with a coup where many countries in latin america and international organizations <hes> said let's let's have. Let's not not allow this to happen. <hes> in two thousand seventeen when the current president was reelected in very very dubious circumstances other countries called for a reelection and the united states said we're basically were good with this and so i think the u._s. needs to take a hard look at support of quantum orlando at nine this given the fact that is starting at the top and given the fact that people will keep surging out of honduras until this corruption is addressed and one other point about these gangs that many here in the united states don't really <hes> grass when especially the president is constantly talking about m._s. Thirteen is that these gangs started in the united states. They started the streets of los angeles and sacramento and the prisons of california from young people who actually we're living in large part of lives here in the u._s. And there were convicted of crimes were deported back to central america and reform their gangs. Could you talk about this connection between into the the origins of these gangs what's going on there. Now the violence now the most violent place in the world central america absolutely i live in los angeles one and you know i had the eighteenth street gang mexicans during the wars in central america in the nineteen eighties. Many central americans came to the u._s. They they got picked on by the mexican so they started their own game to defend themselves the m._s. thirteen gang in one thousand nine hundred eighty six when the u._s. toughen laws towards permanent residents who had committed certain certain offenses do is drug offenses. We started deporting a permanent legal residents and we have deported more than three hundred thousand <hes> criminals finals to central america in many of these neighborhoods in honduras. They say well before this. <hes> you know there were gangs but they were basically controlling turf and arguing over girls but they they were not highly violent. They were not armed in the way that they are now. But once these deportations occurred and you took these gang members and put them into countries countries where they knew no one and they had to survive <hes> the level of violence rab ramped up massively and so this together with the u._s. Use of drugs drugs <hes> we are the biggest consumer of illegal drugs on earth and many of these drugs that originate in columbia were coming through honduras. The drug flights were landing in honduras and the narcos and the gangs were trying to control this turf to move these drugs north to us consumers in the united states. This really fueled ruled a lot of this violence. Well sonia news audio. We wanna thank you very much for being with us and just the end by asking you've covered this. You've been through this many times and what most shocked you this time and especially as we look at president trump's rhetoric about about migrants coming into this country about what he calls the invaders well i think amy the the level of <hes> rot that starts at the top and goes to the bottom it affects people having medicines that are basically don't work because people get kickbacks to buy back bad medicines. It affects the lack of teachers in schools. One in four teachers don't exist. They're ghost teachers occurs because of corruption it affects people's daily lives and i think what i want to say is that we need to have more compassion towards these people who are running running from these very violent circumstances and i believe that we should not cut off u._s. Aid to central america. I know that this is a controversial the point of view but i think some of this aid i have seen especially humanitarian aid not military not police aid humanitarian aid has been used by the u._s. to lower violence to lower impunity to lower corruption. This is a ten to twenty year effort but it is more humane more effective. I it is better to find a way to allow people to stay in these countries and improve conditions there and it's way cheaper than to lock up <hes> all these people in these horrible horrible prisons in the united states which is costing us billions and billions of dollars sonya's audio. We wanna thank you for being with us. Pulitzer pulitzer prize winning journalist author vindicates journey the story of boys dangerous odyssey to reunite with his mother. Sonia is a new york times contributing op abed writer her recent cover story for the new york times. Sunday review is headlined pay or die m._s. Thirteen and eighteenth street gangsters want to run honduras terrorist cutting off american aid isn't going to stop them. When we come back the trump administration plans to restore the federal death penalty will. I'll speak with sister. Helen sean leading anti-death penalty activists stay with us mm-hmm <music> <music> <hes> <hes> <music> and and thirty thirty four ghosts four by nine inch now. This is democracy now. I'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez well. The trump administration is moving ahead with plans to resume the death s. penalty after a more than fifteen year more torrent last month attorney general william bar ordered the execution of five death row prisoners beginning in december for the federal government has executed just three people since one thousand nine hundred sixty three the last being in two thousand three on monday bar proposed fast-tracking iraqi next mass murder cases we will be proposing legislation providing that in cases of vast murder or in cases as of murder of a law enforcement officer there will be a strict timetable for judicial proceedings that will allow the imposition of the death sentence sentence without undue delay punishment must be swept attorney general vars comments echoed president trump's remarks from last week in the aftermath of the paso alan dayton shootings today. I'm also directing the department of justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who oh commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly decisively and without years of needless delay experts say capital punishment does not help deter homicides in that errors and racism racism in the criminal justice system extend to those sentenced to death according to the death penalty information center more than one hundred and sixty people who had been wrongly convicted and sentenced to that have been exonerated since one thousand nine hundred seventy three the death penalty has been abolished in one hundred six countries while another twenty eight have moritorium to effectively do not use the practice. The united nations has called for a global ban on the practice. Amnesty international calls it the ultimate cruel inhuman and degrading punishment for more. We're joined by sister. Helen pachon one of the world's most well known anti-death penalty activists activists as a catholic nun. She began her prison ministry almost forty years ago. She's the author of the bestselling book dead man walking and eyewitness a witness account of the death penalty. The book was turned into the academy award winning film starring susan sarandon and sean penn her new book. Doc is just out this week. It's called river of fire. My spiritual journey sister helen prejean also the founder of survive a victim's advocacy cacique group in new orleans. She continues to council not only prisoners on death row but also the families of murder victims sister helen per sean. It's great to have view back here right <hes> congratulations on your book as you here in the last week's surprise announcement of the attorney general william embar that they are re basically restoring the federal death penalty and they immediately said they would kill five five prisoners who've been on federal death row and then in the wake of the past so in the dayton killings saying bar just announcing that he will <hes> particularly go after mass shooters in this country. It may be that many people agree with him. What are your thoughts well. I'm not surprised that we're embar. Did this or the trump administration wants to expedite federal executions. It's is their whole way of approaching everything that the way is through violence to try to solve social problems. The federal death penalty is not going to a. b. Any more equal justice under law then the st death penalties have been the mood in the country is to shut the death penalty down i in practice actes and then gradually state by state to repeal it. The way that federal death penalty has always worked. It's been up to the discretion of individual federal prosecutors secures so we've had side by side whereas in manhattan in new york federal prosecutors never went for the death penalty over in texas they were always going for the death breath penalty and this will be no different so i'm not at all surprised they're doing it. They also seem to have no understanding about how the courts work. They can can claim all they want that. They're gonna fast track this and speed up these executions but there is the constitution and there are the appeals and so i've been talking to a federal defenders of these cases and of course they're going to do everything they can't to save their clients life and your new book the you it. It's more of a recounting of your life story in terms of how you're your own journey from a child in louisiana. What's suit. Could you talk about how you you developed. I in in your ministry <hes> in in when you decided to go into prison ministry yeah yeah i mean it's called river of fire and the epigraph in it is from saint bonaventure. Ask not for understanding ask for the fire fire. The fire part was when the passion and my own soul erupted that i can't just ask god to solve the problems of the world are it just be charitable to the people around me but that the deepest dimensions of the gospel of jesus called me to justice so i got involved with poor people in new orleans african americans who became my teachers helped me understand what white privilege is helped me understand what institutional racism and it's while while i was in that soil in that terrain living among african american people struggling against poverty and racism. I got an invitation one day to write a man on death row. I i never dreamed it was going to be executed. It was in the early eighties and we hadn't had an execution in twenty years a wrote a letter to he wrote back in two and a half years years later he was executed and that's the fire because i describe it in the preface. In the book they killed a man with fire fire. One night they strapped him in wooden chair and pumped electricity through his body until he was dead. His killing was a legal act. No oh religious leaders protested the killing that night but always there are saw it with my own eyes and what i saw set my soul on fire a fire that burns me still so i- traced my journey of spiritual awakening from private religion being apolitical. I pulled it a call to rolling up my sleeves and getting engaged with if justice is going to come then we have to be the ones to do it and in our democracy in our country so i've had constant dialogue with mike church the catholic church people first of all also the hark but mostly host the people and i've seen how that dialogue pays off finally on august second two thousand eighteen after sixteen hundred years pope francis declared under no conditions. Could we ever trust governments to execute their citizens so we need love your your country. When you love your church you keep up constant dialogue of what needs to change and helping to make that change happen. I wanted to go back in time to that film. <hes> that so rock this nation <hes> dead man walking <hes> that starred susan sarandon and sean penn <hes> based on your first book. I wanted to go to a trailer of that film. John wall delacroix two times in the back of his and raped. Hope person stabbed seventeen times courtroom at sentencing. He was smiling and june his go. He is unveiling diverse misfit a and it is time request be the spiritual adviser to matthew exposed be executed in six days you. You must be very very careful. How made customer <music> place like just want to help him take responsibility for what he did. <music> death breathing down your neck. You're playing at home games white supremacist. A follower of hitler hitler was a leader on the right track that the area was soul easy for them to kill you. Come across from canada crazed animal nazi racist mad dog who deserves to die. You leave beat. You want to be there to comfort him when he does. This is an evil man come. Nobody asked what got thank you. Don't share the kids to be passed from drugs. She blamed black. What about matthew poncelet cla. Was he just an innocent. If you do die as your friend i wanna help you out at dignity and see how you can do that unless you start to own up at the party planning walker and hopes so there you have the trailer for dead man walking susan serandon would win best-actress playing you <hes> she won the oscar for that a- and <hes> tim robbins directed bruce springsteen wrote the music everyone was nominated in the power of this film was the power viewer accompaniment the story that is real real and how you started on that process and go through it till today joe cards cards are off the convicted bomber of the boston marathon <hes> one of the focuses of the new discussion about reviving the federal death penalty you met with him five times in two thousand fifteen and you testified on his behalf saying i presented him as a human being talk about what drives you to do this work. What is it like to meet these prisoners to accompany them to their death well. It's human rights that human beings can never be identified salty with their actions that everybody's everybody's worth more than the worst thing they've ever done so like joe whores trial all prosecution wanted to do is demonize. This is a boston marathon the boston marathon and he was the younger brother. All i said the all the words i could get before the jury were he's a human being and he felt sorrow for what he did and i showed why i could say that and say that because i had met him and <hes> <hes> and i it some point in this came out in the testimony <hes> i just sit girardi haggis all. Would you drop a bomb on all of us us. Any lord is is like this and he just said no of course not. Nobody deserves to die like that so you had to be so careful in the language. The prosecutor was holding me to just the language you could use the judge and so forth but it's with everybody of the company to death some of them. Most of them were guilty. Two of them were innocent because it's so broken and they have done a despicable things but the death f penalties about us and more and more people are standing up now including guards and wardens who have been close to the killing process. We haven't even had an execution in louisiana in seventeen years. There's no official thing that is said we're not gonna kill people and that's going on across the country a lot of times because the gore to pay to do the killing in the warden's. Don't wanna do it anymore because it does nothing and they're so close and that's been the heart of the conversation sation in the catholic church and said to pope john paul the second a says the catholic church only uphold the dignity of innocent life when i'm walking with a man to execution and he shackled hand and foot and he's surrounded us six guards they can walk him down this hall and strap him down and kill him and econo- turns it says sister. Please pray got holes up my legs. Can you help the church opole the dignity of all life that take a human in being and rendered them defenseless and kill them can never be justified and so pope john paul was the first one and then pope francis finally finally moved it to completion and said under no circumstances. Can we ever allow the state to kill its human rights that drives me because i get to meet the human beings. Have you been surprised by the gradual shift in public opinion in this country and also the fact that most americans don't realize what an out liar liar. The united states is compared to the rest of the countries in the world on this issue. No absolutely you know what when i came out of that execution chamber when pat sonia he was the. I had just been killed. It was a middle of the night. I threw up. I never in my life seen anything like this and i remember thinking very clearly. The people people are never going to be brought close to this have been to court cases to try to make executions public. They're removed from it. They're made to be afraid these murders evil. They're gonna come kill you. They can get out. They'll kill people in prison and you make people afraid and you keep them from seeing what actually happens. So that's why i wrote dead man walking and why i've been out talking to the american people mostly through story to bring them close like the death penalty's about us people are going to do terrible oh crimes but we have the most premeditated protocol of taking a person rendering of defense and killing them. We're better than that and most host the people. I have all these fifty states i've been in. They said well we did not like that. Bring the people close to the reality. They have good hearts and they get it and so. I've been very gratified to see that happening. You said after you accompany company the first man dead man walking <hes> that the film is based on <hes> patrick that you were sorry at the time you hadn't reached out more more to the families of the victims but that is something you have done now. A great deal over these years talk about that experience. Let's you know i had a great editor. Jason epstein when i wrote dead man walking and when he saw in the first draft that i'd kinda downplayed played not reaching out to the victims families said i'd never done this before i was so in the human rights of the person being executed and he said helen you letting yourself off really easy here. He said it was cowardice. Wasn't it was scare and that was absolutely true and he said you need to go back and you need to rewrite that. Just just say what a great mistake it was not to reach out to the victims and and see i just thought they would hate me so much because i was opposed to the execution and i was wrong. One of the families did in fact take that position but lloyd la bla whom i consider the hero in dead man walking his son david seventeen have been killed old and he confronted me when we met and he said sister all this time. You've been visit those two brothers. You didn't come see us. She can't believe the pressure we under under and that i'd made a great mistake i hadn't reached out to him and he was the first one who began to teach me and then we started the group survive to help murder victims families. They are the ones rising up more and more helping to end the death penalty. We new jersey did away with the death penalty and they legislature twelve of years ago sixty two murder victims families said don't kill for us the death penalty re victimize us. We need to be able to grieve and we need need to be able to move on but you put us in a holding pattern of fifteen twenty years waiting for this justice that never happens and all of these prisoners on death row who are an essence awaiting their execution the the the continue to grow the quote death row population even as you say many states dates are are are not going through with their executions. What's <hes> what's your sense of their lives as well at you know on death row well. It's like take a living death in so many ways because you you are waiting for death to come. You're an extremely confined. The environment like the death row cells louisiana. It's somewhere so hot and constantly the constant noise all that you are subjected to waiting to be killed and you considered disposable human way. She get a thousand signals a day that you know worth anything and that's so opposite of what i've you know what jesus is about what christianity is about it went. I hear religion quoted like jeff sessions exit attorney general jeff sessions just did to justify the separation of children from their parents at the border pulling in religious quote from romans thirteen that if something is the law god's behind it with the authority of god. I hate to see christianity use like this. I now have actually head head. People say like a member of the part boards and we will jesus was executed for our sins. If he hadn't been executed by the romans we wouldn't be saved. We we got to have executions like the image of god behind that is a wrathful god who sends a just has been offended and demands a sacrificial dan. What kind of god is that. We gotta get jesus right. We gotta get christianity bright and i hate to see religion use to justify violence silence. It's the opposite of what jesus was about. You have the federal government president trump and william bar saying they're going to resume uh-huh a federal death penalty cases executions after almost twenty years yet. You have the states one by one. We're in in this country. Almost at a majority of states that are saying no to the death penalty because the trump administration feels they have absolute power and they could do whatever they want so they declare where we're going to do this and if we notice a pattern that often the the trump administration it's made declarations cla rations of what they can do to immigrants of the muslim ban and if no understanding of the courts so please god that the federal defenders will be in. They're using the constitution to block this to slow it down and make it not happen. We're going to do part two of our discussion and post online democracy. Now dot org stood sister helen for sean is the author of river of fire my spiritual journey <hes> this follows her book dead man walking and i witness account of the death penalty that does it for our broadcast. I mean goodman with juan gonzalez. This is democracy now.

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