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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Preseason with Paul Asleson

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Preseason with Paul Asleson

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It's been awhile since I've done one of these insurance for survivors as you can tell, I'm rambling, but that is no difference to how I usually work. Let me just bring these people to say, can shut me up of I, the co-owner of the BNB the lovely Liana Boris Liana. How are you. I'm great. I like that this is the this, the land of opportunity. No, this is where this is where things go to die. I am beyond excited for this season. I think it has to do with the fact that I am totally in on this cast. I can't not wait to talk about everything, although I have to say, if you are Goliath in bloom, am I your David? And then does that make you Jessica Lewis? This is all very confusing to me, but I think we maybe by the end of the season can sort it out. Paul also listen, I know you are very methodical your head writer after all. Can you draw a rough whiteboard, like Jeff of the Cambodian finale as to who is what? And how does this tie-in to the y. blank lost our sister survivor podcast here on pups. Yeah, I feel like much like a David. I'm going to have to fight through a lot of this podcast of figure that out because that's a little bit too complicated for me because all I'm thinking about is where does crap is fawn. All this delay. The goliath. Pretty Goliath, like I mean, he's used to winning, right? I mean, you're the one that knows the myth more than I do. That's true by he doesn't eat the kids that I feel like you're Jeff prototypes with like a fighter, does some eating or throw in some them a David every time. So that's why I've Strack. I feel like the preseason stuff at anything you get with Jeff move, kind of learned. You can pretty much make anyone David and you can pretty much make anyone alive. So you know what, I think you should sell select Liana. What are you? What do you feel like you are. I think I need BuzzFeed to help me out on that one. I'm excited to take the quiz to answer whether or not I am David or Goliath, or maybe a cramp is thrown. As the other answer. I only analyze my personality based on quizzes. I take online, so very, very healthy of you. So let's talk about this. Let's talk about survivor David versus Goliath at the time of recording this. The cast dropped about a few weeks ago. I got together with rob the day drop to talk through our basic. You know, first impressions of the cast and a couple of twists upper thrown in, and I'm sure we're going to be talking about over the course of this podcast. I know at the time of recording this, we also very recently got a drop of Nicole and robs requisite Cass analysis. I one out has also come out in the past couple of weeks, so we have some preseason fair to get into. I want to start with a point that you made Liana I'm we'll get into more details obviously over the course of this podcast, but what are you thinking about the David's and the glides, considering what we know about them so far. Okay. So my overall impression on the cast is that everybody is actually really interesting, and I know that that sounds bizarre. Right? I mean, there are people who are cast on reality TV. They're supposed to be interesting. Everybody's supposed to have a story, but I feel like the diversity of the cast, both, you know, in age and background in raise really just make everybody so unique and gives everybody an interesting story. And even the people who you know like Alec, for example, who looks like he may be was plucked from the jersey shore really gone for that. Polly. D haircut? Yeah. Is he my favorite? No, no, no. But it was up to you and say, yes, the cast is super interesting. We have so many interesting people and we have Alec and Alec up, you know what? He plays a part on the season. You know, we talk about, I don't wanna season. That is all super fans. I don't wanna season. That is all recruits. And so having really a good diversity to the cast, I think is just so important. And I cannot wait to watch his people interact. Act with each other. I, I'm just pumped. How dare you malign Alec Merlene. No. I know for a fact that his social media is extremely interesting. That's right. Yes. So, okay, we, we should talk about this because I completely forgot not to go on a little bit of a tangent, but there was as Mike was referencing a post on social media. I believe it was Alec posted it and Kara k. I think was the other one who is in the picture and they posted on social media before they're supposed to do so survivor was like, oh my gosh, you know, maybe they're going to get find like five million dollars or something. And I think Alec actually ended up getting banned from the the reunion as a result of this. So yes, he's even he brings his own drama, how exciting I like how you said they would be fine, five million dollars. So I just love this idea of like, alright, Alec for you know, doing this, you owe us four million dollars even if you won the show. Yeah, right. Exactly. I don't know. Exactly. You know it's one of those threats also because I think you know how much money do we think that this man hasn't his Bank account. I highly doubt anywhere close to five billion. Oregon, the show, and that's why he had her bake something online was to get some more tension. So I think firms the fact that he is most born cast member now, most pretty sure that I recall reading his bio and I think I talked about this on a podcast that I did with rob. I'm pretty sure he said like, I have zero dollars in my Bank account right now. So. A little bit of a stretch Ileana. Well, maybe he had five million before he broke his underway and had to pay the some sort of fee. We have to have defines a poll. What are you thinking about this cast overall echo everything. Liana said, I think the age factor is a lot better in this cast. I think that we didn't walk go walk away from this cosmic, oh my God, these people are all so young. So even the people in their twenties, most of them are twenty five or older. So I think that I'm very positive based on how big brother went this summer in the way casting went with that. I'm really hopeful that that carries over into the season because I think that this was a really, really good, good bunch of people with a lot of different backgrounds. So I'm really excited dive into this with both of you to that point. It's interesting in that. I do agree that. I think from an agent a, you know, a ethnicity perspective, very, very diverse, especially again compared to something like ghost island, who Wally enjoyed that cast as people. They definitely skewed towards those those twenty something, you know, beach body types. And so I'm happy that we sort of have explored people from more walks of life. It is really interesting that if you look at like where everyone comes from, it's all California, Texas, Florida, New York, and then like a couple of other random states thrown in there. So I guess when you're looking at something at the outset, something like geography might not necessarily matter to the story of a person because I can even argue that like Carl and Elizabeth, for example, who both come from Texas or two completely different people with two completely different stories. Right. And then when you talk about California people, sometimes it's a k- how many of them are actually real California people. Like if we look back at Cook Islands, I remember that came out. It was like, oh, my God, seventy percent of this cast is from California. And so I, I don't think I, I don't think California people necessarily equates to to the diversity in geography. Because so many. So many of the California's than on the show do hail from somewhere else originally wanted. I think also because the number of people have followed their career, they've ended up moving to a number of different places. So like you know, even though let's say, I think Jeremy. He was one of the group in South Carolina. I think now he lives in New York. So you know, even though. Yeah, sure. He's New York City. He still has sort of interesting background in where he came from. Well, we'll certainly get into more individualise off on these cast members as the BNP progresses of before we get into where usual fair. I want to bring up once more that we will be doing our sealed predictions for the season. Aka Liana wins game where for those that might not be aware of it, myself and Liana are going to over the course from now until Wednesday, write down what we think each person is going to do on the show and how they are going to do then when that person is voted out every week, we're going to read what we ROY. What about them preseason Liana. Are you already how many bottles of wine I should ask? Did you buy in order to prepare yourself for these preseason butts? So I haven't come up with my strategy yet for how I'm going to write the is I was thinking, maybe I would let Alexa write them for me. I thought about just sort of like twitch played Pokemon sort of crowd source it. We'll see. I really wanted to be an even playing field Mike. Thank you. On requesting your identity before you are definitely Goliath when it comes to this time definitively a David Wright, and then I can never go back to being David. So this shows official or unofficial head writer. I'm not sure which. I do have to issue the statement at might you refer to this as the Liana wins game, we actually refer to refer to it as the Mike loses game. It more emphasis on Mike sabotaging himself rather than Leon, actually winning look. So I'm going to try my best to not self sabotage which is difficult to say in three, my general proclivities in life, but I realized that we were doing the big brother stuff over the summer for the to be that you know what? I think I am better at reading fan fiction than writing fan fiction. So Liana I would love to see what's creativity you bring to your predictions this season, whether it be Alexa flex place Pokemon you could do. You could put in a bunch of different predictions into a robot and have it right something like it did for those olive garden commercials that I saw on Twitter. That one time I'm thinking I'm going to take the format that we use in the big brother one where I'm going to write like three or four bullets things that they might do in the game. I think I definitely shot myself in the foot, particularly with, you know, my go. Ghosts of Patrick alliance has you know. Is nothing compared to the Kris noble Chelsea towns in showman's that I created for goes. I know it really is the Mike sabotage game because you just write paragraphs upon paragraphs. I think I just wrote one there was like the most generic simple one and somehow ended up beating you because you just go on and on and on. You just need to go completely other direction. Just say she gets voted out. He gives them what it out. He wins, you know what I'm going to have. I'm going to have Rupert right then he might not be on Twitter, but I'll see if I can reach out to him. He might still be traveling around the world for one reason or another, but maybe that might be the best way to go well, so okay, if you're going to write them rave, you're gonna follow some sort of, we know, you know, you're super into literature of mice and men. And so I think if you are going to ride it just follow the cease spot, run format. So it's like, see, Angelina, see, Angelina Placerville, ever. See, Angelina give voted out of survivor. And I think that's really what you gotta stick with that as your key, your. Mood, two birds with one stone because I also teach basic sentence structure to those Howard checking this podcast out in how fun is that for us to listen to. Yeah. Oh my God. I was riveted just listening to that very as exciting as as you guys think of Alex prospects right now. So that's just I'm putting opinion. Now. We'll see how we each prepare a remarks. I am ready or some revenge baby quote the outcasts of survivor, Pearl islands. We'll see if that actually plays out. I want to get into this cast let let's talk about the cast through something. We've been doing the past two seasons here on the BNB with our preseason podcasts. Let's talk about some superlatives. So we've come in here with a list of some superlatives and based purely on our preseason views of these people are going to try to predict who is going to be the most likely to do whatever activity or have something happened to them on the island. This had another one Liana that I feel like it's always fun to revisit when the season ends. Oh yeah. It's always so fun because most of them are wrong, but every once in a while you have one you are so spot on with and it's like, oh my God, I'm a genius. I'm the most brilliant person in the history of ever and it doesn't matter everything else can be completely wrong. I think you might most likely to flip laurel, brilliant on the money on the money. This is always a lot of fun. I can't wait to go through all of this full. Let's get into it. Then we're going to start with a pretty traditional one. Most likely to find an idol poll of these twenty people who do you think is most likely to find an idol will know my. There is action ultimate spelling in how to spell idol on. It's spelled. He AT and I just think that hat is like gotta find an idol. He was the reason this theme exists. He is like the family man, hardworking, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, if he does not find idle in the first three episodes, I will be shocked. I would actually be not surprised if all of a sudden like one of his tattoos is an idol, like somehow all my guys what the palm tree. Ever the idols have been predetermined. They are tattoos all the contestants bodies. We partnered with ink master on paramount network, the tattoo idols on people. I was picturing like that seeded. Second chance for Jerry. He goes off to find the lanterns Zygi follows that lantern into the woods or whatever. But there's kind of like a little tattoo parlor setup, Tiki hut tattoo parlor until you actually get a tattoo in the middle of the night use an idol is they're like, okay, okay, Jeremy step into the laser machine and. Will Kurt Wilkerson becomes out and he removes the tattoo tribal. Yeah, I don't know if you get to keep it. I thought it was already a tattoo on him. I mean, considering the Pat was the guy that apparently this entire season was based around. You know, I thought maybe there would have been some inspiration. Visible in these CBS photos. So I'm a, we're onto something. I mean, he does all ready having immunity necklace considering has that like necklace tattooed around him. So maybe I like this tattoo idle idea because you could also do fake idols by taking a sharpie and drawing like an idol on your skin. No, it's like one of the temporary tattoos. You'd get up and jump ropes like rubs it off like this is not a hit. Official test is just like he just hiked Dipsy licks his finger and like runs the you. This is brilliant. All right. We should write this one down the next time. You know, we need to come up with some survivor ideas. Liana who do you think is most likely to find an idol? Yeah. Okay. So I think hat is a good person, but I really think that Nick, we could see out there looking for idols. I know you know, he is a super fan also, you know, numbers don't lie. We have a tendency to see more males find idols. And I feel like he seems very where aware of his surroundings could be looking for potential clues. So I see neck finding an idol out there. I could see it. I'm just worried that Nick is to focus on getting his slingshot ready as we've seen from the myriad survivor promos. In the past couple of weeks that he might not be able to find an idol divide his time equally. How is he not bounded by now? I've been seeing those Bravo's for weeks. Gotta go get my slingshot. All right, buddy. Actually, that would be really fun if we do not see a challenge that involves a slingshot, I will be very upset. Yeah. Maybe they should do that instead of like the physical contact challenge. They're all just the all stand up on a balance beam, and you have to like fire. Not rocks, but like beanbags asked them to knock them off the balance beam. The player rocks at each other. That's very TKO of you. Mike. But I would be down for it. I mean, Kevin Hart did make an appearance at the ghost island finale so there could be more cross coverage even though that did film before this who knows who knows at this point in time is a flat circle. Well, I don't know this because I stopped watching TKO because did you guys know it got moved to Fridays at nine pm. I think it share was like point three or something ridiculously low. But anyway, because there could be a contestant on TKO that's now in this season of survivor. Maybe Powell was on TKO. I don't know. I feel like I'll get out my tinfoil hat. I'll walk through this later. It just magin Kevin Hart be like, come on tattoo, man, watch over the big spike vols. Well, for my pick, I'm going to go with Carl, just because Jeff pro said that Carl, one of the things that he really liked about him is that he has sort of has this don't give an f attitude, and I'll give a bit of a spoiler for this season of Australian survivor so far. So to now for the next thirty seconds, if you don't want to hear it, all that might be MU as well. I don't know if you've caught up at this point. I'm pretty caught up. But it's very, I could see curl doing a very like Shane Gould like maneuver where he knows there's an idol him back at camp. He'll walk in front of his allies grabbed the idol at from like under a tree and just like put it in his cowboy hat and walked away. I get totally see that too. Don't fuck with Carl Boudreau. Yes, he I, I like that idea because of that attitude, but I also feel like that's the same attitude that will lead him to not care to bridles at all. So it could go either way. I don't know. I still, I think I put my money on either Nick cooked both ways. We never know as well. There's going to be a bunch of idols hidden. I'm assuming and also this idol nullify. We'll see how that turns up. Who knows if call finds an idol nullify, or he might just not give an f. and decided not to use it to. No. Do you think he'd go home with it in his pocket. That's a good question. We didn't. We didn't have that as a guest. We can put this as a sub topic. Do we have any picks as to who would be most likely to go home with like some sort of twist in their pocket, whether it be a idle mole, fire, legacy advantage, etc. Paul, I mean, just based on the pre-game stuff, I just feel like maybe someone like Jeremy, who's kind of you get the idea. Very, very confident in himself in various feels that he knows what he's doing would someone would maybe be someone to go home with that occupied. It isn't that I don't know if anyone's sticks out. You think having an idol in the low fire in your pocket, when you go home, do you think that's going to have the same stigma? I feel like no one's gonna care like, okay. Well, let's be really you'll. So you're saying if they go home with a well, I, if you went home with an idol notifier in your pocket and the regular idol took you out, then that would have the same level of embarrassment. But if not, it'd be like. That's a perfect use of like the final words. This person like, oh, I didn't use asylum the fire. Hey, all right. Onto recess. Hashtag that Russia spell that, but h. e. h. s. tag. All right. Let's move on. You're actually very nice segue into our next topic here most likely to get a hashtag podcast. Mike anyway, continue. You're very much Goliath all when it comes to that Liana who who do you think is most like big a hashtag out of this group? Okay. I'm actually really proud of this one. I think it's going to be be because I think it's gonna be hashtag sting like a bee. I feel like it's going to be hashed hashtag is easy as hashtag ABC at Subic AB I see you guys trust way too much in CBS marketing to come up with these hash. They came up with Sean coffee's for closers. So, well, I agree with you. The fact that these Dame is most likely to like fit into Random House shakes, but I actually disagree that you get that that she'll be interesting enough in the show to warrants that many hashtag, okay, here's my, here's what's going to happen. It's going to be her boot up because we're not gonna see her for like three episodes until it's going to be her and she's an MA fighter. So definitely gonna eat alive. I like flow like about a fly sting like a bee hashtag sting like a bee bee. I. I think it's written done deal. Maybe you should write your predictions exhaustible. You should write your predictions using the hash tags that will show up on the screen for when they sort of like what we did with the superhero names in big brother. That's actually not about idea down. Right? All it seems like you are antibody on this one. Who do you think is most likely to get a hashtag here? I just think we have to if I'm doing the most likely I went to pick someone for sure. The show wants to highlight someone who's been on reality TV show before someone who is a writer as someone who is a comedian. So it's gonna be might. I mean, I just feel like he's going to give them gold with no want to use and stuff that will easily transfer into a hashtag. So that is my prediction is Mike. Yeah, I feel you is. I went with someone who the show wanted on there. He was on reality. TV is not a writer, but I mean, John Hennigan a wrestler is on the show who is all about, like delivering soundbites for a promo, you'd have to believe they're gonna milk them hashtags out of him forever. How long his on the show, right. We'll yeah, hashtag mayor of slam town, right? I mean, I feel he's got in verse wanted Jane Wednesday, night delight. What was there is. One particular like turn of phrase that he used that really got Josh going. I know I tweeted this out, but I think the first one was really fantastic because I think it really highlights it's great cast. But the highlight for me, honestly might be Josh becoming namrd with John had again because they kept cutting back several types you could hear, Josh is just like so giddy and besides themselves, it's so fantastic up and he calls everyone douche bags, turned cutters and chump stains. Yeah, it's like he's a writer for the BNB. How do we get this guy as most to get a being be hashtag, that's for sure. Seriously of in. He's I'm super excited for John. I mean, do I think he's gonna win? Probably not, but he really entertained me on. I went out. I mean, I get it. It's his job, but the fact that Josh was definitely enamored with him, I think is my favorite thing that Josh said was, or you could be the mayor of slam town. Like they'd be, there's this fictional place called slam town. Maybe that's what the BNB is who coming to you live from slam town. It's j. p. BNB because we like to slam the contested. Apparently if your name is. Yeah. And then they're like sign for our town. Can you know it's the population sign? It'll be like three third cutters. Are we are realtor cutters? Have we have? We don't know what Liana one makes you a turt- cut. You know yourself Liana. So Paul, as it turned cutter. Again, I do not self identify deterred cutter Ivy podcast, Goliath. Now Paul as a douchebag, how do you think voting tonight's going to differentiate yourself from the Trump stains. I don't know Mike as a pain in the ass. What are you. Well, that's not too far from John's other theme, which is what like artists, academics and assholes. Yeah. Oh man. He's gonna be so much fun. I can't wait Hortus. You guys are known for your creativity academics. Your brains make the world work assholes. God, you guys just suck. All right bunch. It's your challenge. Yeah. Well, I think it was Jeff Probst and the first first one out, you know, talking about how the Goliath responded to being called Goliath. Can you imagine it'd be like, all right, so tribe Asfaw. I'm sorry. CBS CBS says we cannot say, asshole. We need to say a whole. Gene may hole. Boy, that might make things worse. All right. Let's move on here. Let's go to the opposite end of the spectrum most likely to get a purple edit Paul who's purposing this season. I think for me, I after just go with the person to me that in the preseason is the most mysterious to me that I get a bike gotten the least from I you guys both know this, but I have been without a phone for the past vica over week. So by podcast with Ning has taken a quite a bit of a nosedive. So maybe this person is a huge hit on on some the podcast, but I don't really know that much. Don't understand who Natalia is. So for me, I'm gonna say, she's my most purple. She's on the purple tribe and the preseason stuff. I just I don't. I don't really fully understand her. Liane GED feel like there's an impression that everyone just sort of like, okay, Natalia. Yeah. I mean, I don't. I don't necessarily think she's going to get a purple edit. I think she was the one on. I one out who sort of got maybe the most negative first impressions from some of the other cast members. I think people are probably a little bit intimidated by her. So I don't think she's necessarily going to get a purple edit. I people have made sort of the Gonzalez comparisons to her being a little bit maybe boisterous than louder. She describes herself, I think, is confident charismatic once. So I don't think that that really fits with somebody who has a Herpel at it necessarily. I said, Kara, first of all, herbal bikini. So you know, obviously. And then also she was the one who Roker NDA. So you know, if you're a producer you trying to get out. Purple at it. Exactly. And you know, she was a person who was on survivor not as JP as JP, but you know, she wasn't someone who really stood out to me is going to be this really dynamic, strong character on the seat then no, the the JP award has to go to Pat right with his all the Yunos. He threw into his talking with Josh. Or or quarrel with man pulling like the his best Judd sergeant impression and putting like seventy five man's in his conversation. Man, you know, I don't know. That could be a little brutal. We'll see how the editor shoes to maybe edit around those ticks. So I put in there the opposite of like a b. that stingers out just because I thought that like she, I think that she has a compelling story, but I wonder like if she's just known for her physical prowess, I wonder how much of a story line can be associated with that concerning that. Like even someone like Chelsea who won two immunities, they didn't really carve out a story line for her, but I ended up going with Jessica just because I know Jessica is the youngest person out there, but I don't know. I just feel like she's her edit might be more of a will wall than a Michael yoga. If we're talking about other eighteen nineteen year olds were like, she seems totally nice, and I like the fact that she is like a superfan in disguise and how you know she feels like she's mentally older than she actually is. But I don't know something just tells me that with all the shenanigans that are going on in the David tribe. I don't know if Jessica will repeat the top of the heap when it comes to content. I think I'm more on the team be just so that I can also support the on his hash tag theory and have some kind of hashtag that's like hashtag be seen not her or something. Here he a b. stick. Nope, that doesn't work. I. Let's like speak softly. Gary, a beast. No, we ought to. You are definitely David. Okay. Maybe by the end of this podcast, I can become Goliath for me Jessica feet. Actually, if you're, you know, we're going to talk about comparisons to younger castaways. I think she's more of a Julia some last week, and maybe it's just because they're young blonde women. But I think she will is somebody who probably is wiser for her age, but it's still young and the which has given me. She's nineteen years old, right? Like this isn't a negative against her in any way, but I just think she's definitely going to fall more in sort of that side of things. I could see her maybe getting a little bit of Annetta later on. But yeah, well, she really stand out as a dramatic character. I think that's probably not gonna happen. Let's get into this next one. I'm really excited about this one most likely to flip because I'm going to pick someone right now. I might stake all my predictions in this on this one. You gonna go with devilish. Davey, look, this man has promised to be a radical to even his own allies. I am very excited for Davey because listen, I'm happy to be wrong and he excels on the game, but I am predicting a pretty fun flame out for daybreak in backer because it just seems like he's going to be very flippant and very chaotic. Which I always have fun with. So I see him flip flopping at least three times pre-marriage personally. Well, Davies, the newcomer, right? He was the replacement. Yeah, yes, him so he does have his, you know, fire under in his belly that he's gonna you know, go out swinging, so I could definitely see that. Yeah, so spoiler alert he was actually my answer is well, because he's describes himself as a Radic who's get, you know, if you describe yourself as a Radic I feel like you could also just say, oh, yeah, dumb. Most likely to flip. And as I watched more and more about him, I was like, okay, somebody needs to give this guy Xanax, like calm down, breathes like, I'm sure you know, he's super excited. He got the call sixty hours ago to whatever to go out and play survivor. The maybe a little bit of that will come down once he doesn't have food for a little bit, but I could totally totally see him flipping. So I I did say him, but I guess in the spirit of picking somebody else, I think. Oh. I think I'm gonna go with Natalia, actually. I think that people what? Why is that funny? I don't know. Just like she's like the star of like all said, she's not going to do anything that you said? Nope. She's gonna flip. Yeah, she was trying to this is likely on just like f you to me, thanks Leon, such a chump change. I think actually most likely to have a hashtag because can big brother, nine. You had a contest name, Natalie, and she went by hashtag naughty nasty net Talia. So I think that's, that's be hash take you. I think she's going to be huge character. And as someone who's had a phone for the past week, I just really feel. A phone in one handed a b. stick and the other one. Someone who's up to date on every podcast that's been out in the last week. So Paul as someone who's lived under a rock for the past week, how do you as a rock dwellers versus trees Weller. Please tell me why because people don't like her. Yes. Yeah, I think I think honestly, I think she's going to be a little bit ostracized by her own try. And so I think if she is someone who's able to make a swap or make the merge, I think she somebody who could flip against her original quote, unquote alliance or tribe mates to go with aggressive screener. We'll leave, let's compromise. Okay users or compromise the tally clips. The show them show it. Okay, that's how we get. And no one gets a hashtag. I liked that because unlike they'll be like, oh, that vote was seventy four who else flipped. And just see. Like of turnover built like, oh, I guess she did. Sorry. Did you have one? I, yes, I, my pick was going to be Nick. Just someone who knows the game involves the online community. And you know, just someone who understands the game in hopefully realizes when a really beneficial time would be. Let's move to the other side once again, least likely to flip Liana. Do you have a candidate here. Okay. So I really like a rally. Sal, you definitely gonna tell you this is just hedging my bets. If I say to tally for everything, definitely get one right. No. So I actually John it was somebody who I know he flipped people professionally for years. But you know, he's somebody who kept preaching loyalty. He said he's going to be loyal to the people that he's loyal to, which I think kinda makes sense. That's how that works. You somebody who I think, you know it was gonna find a strong alliance. He's good stick with them. They may turn on him, but I don't think he's gonna flip on them. Oh, how do you feel about that? Well, I mean, I definitely did. I gravitate to a lot of people on the Goliath tribe looking at someone who are kind of like confident what they do, and they just seem like you know, upstanding citizens in people like Natalie in like John characters like that. But I take him actually going to switch over to David tribe and say, Elizabeth. Elizabeth, she got inspired rather show back in season two. And I just feel like her mentality is knocked the chain from that. I think she's very, she's a religious person. She's a very like moral person. I don't. I can see her not flipping on some some moral reasons. See, I I had that thought is well initially, but I remember that. I think like Jeff said, she loves the, you know, three things in her life. You know, her ranch, her family and survivor. And I wonder if she sort of comes in with that superfan mentality and not say she's a superfan, but more of like a hardcore fan if that makes a difference mentality of like, well, you're not playing survivor if you don't make this move. So I wonder if she, you know, I could see a scenario where she might be resolute, but I also see a scenario where she's like, I'm playing survivor. I gotta take advantage of this yolo or yo PO. You only play once. And so she decides to flip and multiple, you know, screw her chances later on. I do think she compares herself to big Tom. So we know what a dynamic game player. Big pump was. Big, Tom had the record for most number of days played, so we can't. We can't fault them too much, and it's true. You only played twice yoyo. I ended up going away with I've wind up because what's going with David as well with Lisa because I similar to what you were saying about John Liana. I know Lisa had been talking bid in one of her videos about how like if she makes a friend with somebody, she's going to stick with them until the end. She's very much about loyalty and honesty. So I mean, I think a really striking personality in a look as well. But I could see her as someone who would like solidly be someone's number two, and maybe none of -sarily putt them even if it's most viable. Yeah, no, I think that that actually totally makes sense. I think she is somebody who is very, you're. And in the same vein, we fiercely loyal. So I could get fierceness cuts. Both ways. Religion takes fiercer, Lisa. Ooh. Ooh, you're writing Lee honest predictions for her at this point. All right, let's let's move on here most likely to get medevac hall. Hopefully we do not get visitation from Dr Joe this season, but if we do considering the horrible, whether they face this season, who's most likely to fall here? Well, other than the Talia, I think really gravitate or. Some days, eve just seems like if he's a Radic in all these areas that he talks about, maybe he's also like a Mike sue ban or a boo from Fiji where he just runs into things all the time difference himself. So that was my first inclination. Other than that, I don't know that there's that easy target because you don't have super. I mean, it gets Mike is many might using the older. I don't know. I was actually thinking sort of a along similar lines of either Mike or Christian because their eyes are closed. So they're just going to run into like miss the Mr. Magoo theory. Yeah, exactly. 'cause they couldn't find a picture with their eyes open, I think is the joke. So yeah, that's what I went with. Yeah, I had a couple of minutes here. I said that be would kick a log Ola, Gandhi a- and get medevac for like breaks point. I also said that Allison and might do like a personal checkout might be like, I don't think I'm too well. I can. I did a checkup on myself, so I'm going to check myself out of the game. Shake kick a log like a b. As they're known to do work workshop Liana. All right. Let's move on to our next one here. This is a fun one most likely to get blasted on survivor social media and listeners. I absolutely love you, but I think you all can admit that during the season things get a bit frenetic in the internet and they're liable to, you know, really heap the criticisms onto certain people like kellyn really gone at last season in laurel. We had Ryan get at the season before. I know Zeke has gone nip before too. So based on all that Liana, what do you think is most likely to be on the on the end of the beasts? Dick survivor social media. Well, I was thinking about what all of those people have in common and it's if they're least likely to flip. I feel like something so I'm gonna go with the taller. I'm just kidding. I don't know. I really had a hard time with this one. It seems like you know, it really could go any which way I feel like coral is somebody who I could see them either loving or hating right either. They love the fact that he doesn't give enough or they hate the fact that he doesn't give enough mainly because like maybe that's how I feel. And I, I'm definitely a creature of the sub read it. So maybe I'll go with Carl from my answer all. I think for me, I would I. You talked a little bit Allison. The brought her up Mike. In the last question, Allison as a lot of hands vibes to me, she's a doctor from North Carolina has kind of her stuff together at. I can just see her being someone who for some reason because I think she's so put together and she, I think she's going to be confident when she's doing if she does something that the only doesn't like or she's not with the people that he online want her to be with that I can see maybe people taking out on her narrow enough Alison wants to be an unconscious and Candice once called someone rat cancer. Actually, I really, I really liked the answer because I think also, you know, she was the person who if I remember correctly from I one out had a lot of pushback to, you know, the Goliath moniker where you know she was like, well, I worked so hard to be here, blah, and I could see that not necessarily playing all that. Well, I sort of hedge my bets here and what would someone who I think sort of unfortunately fits the mold of some of the other contestants that have been, you know, raked over the coals before by the internet. I'm going to, I hope this isn't the case because I really like him, but I'm going to go with Christian here just because I feel like Christmas someone who is brave enough to even I won out. He put out a bunch of his own theories about the game, which I know when you do that is to write for discussion and picking apart by the internet populace. And especially if the show decides to lean on him a law for things like narration. I could see something along the lines of like, we don't need to see Christian. We already saw David Wright Cochran at cetera. We don't need to see this again. Like if he gets whatever the opposite of purple edited is like way too much exposure. Yeah, violet like an infrared at it. For blasting you in the face. Oh, okay. Speaking of Sudoku Sam. So inside survivor, released pictures, press photos. From the first episode, there's a picture of Christian. He looks like a cast member from Lord of the rings. I swear to God. He looks just like Sam wise GAM g like he's got his some sort of maybe pants or sweater thing like wrapped around his neck and he's got the like the hobbit hair I couldn't. I was like, I was shocked by it all shall tweet it out later. Now Paul, the Lord of the rings series of films that came out in the early two thousands about this. Say, what's a load of the ring. How dare you. All right. Let's let's move on here. While the our listeners are taking a break to go to inside survivor and see how Christian is making the David camp. Looked like Hobbiton. Let's talk about. We talked about transitioning from David to Goliath. Who do we think of this cast is most likely to go from David to Goliath or vice versa? Which again, it's still a debate as to whether that's free goes both ways, but let's just says, no, I know we'll, we'll see. Maybe they can change the game in that regard. Maybe they can teach, Jeff at a Goliath can become a David hallum, assuming them by that logic, did you go with David that would hopefully become Goliath. I mean, had I known the other was an option. Maybe it would have said that the Talia will go back to her rightful spot as David. But no, I went the other way around in a little bit hopeful for I could see something like something like a Gabby who re at the Christian Christmas, like a true nerd. I think average is way more of the Aubrey nerd. So I think what I'm hoping is that someone like Gabby like really proves that she actress council boss at this aim in his really super socially good and stuff like that and said, by the end, you know that she really comes into her own as Goliath, but whom I can pregnant be Pat. I think if anybody is going to make the transition, I think it's going to be Alec. But probably not to a David either to, you know, I don't know. The no collar tribe I think is really where Alex belongs. So I think if anyone's gonna make a transition, it's hip. So you're saying there Alec will transfer not only to a tribe this season, but I try from a completely different survivor season. Yes. All right. We'll go with it. I to couple of options here. I was thinking be it I because I could see against someone who honestly might be the most like physically adept for survivor right now. I could see her dominating the challenges which sort of makes her Goliath, but I'm gonna go with the Goliath in bloom. Here. I'm gonna go with hot cop, Dan because I could see something like again, Jeff's we're talking about how he is finding his self esteem and sort of becoming this this new persona that he lost a lot of weight and obviously to a big social media following. But I feel like he's also just such a down to earth relatively normal guy for being the social media sensation that I could see him. You know, maybe deferring to the David's or maybe he sort of gets lost. In the shuffle shuffle and other people sort of dominate him in the game. I, I just feel like if a ranking people by something like Goliath, like status, he might be at the bottom of the Goliath tribe. So he's most likely to fall off their to the other end of the spectrum. He's not what I forget what he's on the Goliath tribe. Yeah. Yeah, see, I keep forgetting. We go, see, that's that's my my point already made the transition. You cut down my points and the new like subtly feed into my points. I see how it is. Liana is a long con for me. I'm here to play to be fair. My pinions are turds and she's a Turkey cutter. So that's just her natural process. All over the other names but monitor, that's that's what the war brought up Bradley. So you were close. In your head. Version, its butt munch versus sixty nine versus slam town Shambo versus Shambhu. Oh my God actually. Okay. So I was going back thrill. I was whatever. So there was an exchange that Bradley had, and I don't know if either of you remember this, but I wanted to bring it up because I thought we could maybe make it a relative, but then I forgot. So there was a woman who posted on Bradley's Instagram who said you remind me of my son before he left. And then Bradley said, thanks. And then the woman said, it wasn't a compliment. He went to prison. I didn't have time to think of like most likely to be told that they're like someone son, but for a bad reason or something like that. But I didn't complete with flush out. So I figured I would really work wheels on it on the podcast which is such a better place to really think their ideas really repairing beforehand, build the plane as you go is how we do it on the DNB. That's right. That's right. Where where to go serve our country, where to go to the peace corps where. When you went to prison, don't drive the bus. I build the bus anyway. All right. Sanjay over. All right. Let's move on to our final superlative here. I'm calling this the Dominic abate award for most likely to hold a watch party with the most cast members. I feel like Dominic withholding, watch parties all throughout the entire season last year that brought in a bunch of different people from the tri-state area Liana. Who are you thinking is going to again, we talked about how everyone sort of comes from five areas this season who's gonna be the most likely to hold a party that brings together, although their fellow Davidson goliaths. Yeah, it was actually thinking they're going to be a competing watch parties from these different epicenters. For example, Mike white, maybe the LA rep, Jeremy. The New York rep, Lisa, the Boston rep, and then they're going to sort of come to blows and they, we're going to have an offshoot of survivor and it's going to be watch party. And then it'll be like, you know, five watch party is one watch party again, haven't thought of. It's very confusing, syntax. All right. Hold on the good that you're. The sealed predictions seasons don't revolve around theories like this because I think Mike would actually beat you on that wearing a low bar. A low bar. I have an opportunity to read write some and not come up with them on the fly. But yes, so I think that there could be a serious competition or the most likely to hold the watch party with the most cats. I ended up going here with Angelina because she said that one of her hobbies was hosting Margarita nights. I feel like that's a great losing some people into just like sip on some drinks and watch them survivor. Yeah, good call. I should do the same thing for my prediction. Yeah, I had hosted Margarita tonight by yourself, five predictions, one prediction. Right through the night. Right. Actually, I think Magsi is supposed to come up with me and we're going to drink Margaritas and right predictions together. So off to talk to her about that. All right, Paul. What about you who's most likely to hold a watch party. Shoe horn in the last contest that we haven't talked about. Just gonna wanna talk about her and I wanna say Natalie because she's kind of a mother figure. She's gonna be entries wealthy probably can roll a big party and destroy like her. She's a really interesting character and I can't wait to see it as the show. I had nine only down as well for totally the same reason. Like I could see her just had a bunch of people over to her house or they have a big Bangor in a empty warehouse somewhere. But it is interesting like, yeah, I agree that Natalie might be one of the biggest characters coming into this season, but it's interesting that you didn't really fit many the the the superlatives that we gave out to this. Yeah, I think part of that and I think she stupor interesting, but she, you know, has a lot of things working against her, and I think somebody who is more likely to win the Pearl is somebody who's as in the game for a little longer. Although I did think about putting her is least likely to flip because she would have no opportunity to flip. Now that being said, I do. You hope that she goes deep. Do I think it's going to happen. Maybe not so much, but she is a bad ass and totally awesome in. I would probably go to a watch party that she hosted. Yeah, and I, I also put her down for like a third place candidate for at least likely to flip because she wants to be all about calling the shots. And I could see that like maybe by that logic, if you're if you're calling the shots, you're not the one who's deciding to flip in that moment. Yeah, exactly. And then sadly she gets flipped on upon. All right. Well that that'll do it for our superlatives. So we'll lock these away as well more revisit at the end of the season, but it's a nice way to sort of like horse, our thoughts on the cast through these various towers that we created. Yes, I'm very excited to see how poorly we all did, and then only took ninety minutes to get through the mall. The premiere episode. Okay. So I actually, you know, no, we haven't played any games yet, but I really wanna talk about this so badly. So we're going to continue this season with are sort of three questions segments. I guess where each of us gets an opportunity to bring up something that we really want to talk about, and I really wanna talk about this, how do we think this theme will impact gameplay? Now, I know that there's a lot of, oh, millennial gen-x was only important for the first couple of weeks or a coupla episodes, and then you know it wasn't a big deal, but I just got this sense from the way, Jeff ropes was talking about it in first one out, it seems like there does. There might be some impact of the season, and I actually heard it described on, I think on read it as the noble poor versus the privileged monsters. Which really makes me laugh. So I'm just curious your thoughts on how you know how he thinks that this team is going to impact the game. What are you know this very early on back in survivor, Fiji at the Cook Islands, Tonelli win, win. Survivor. Fiji was kind of was bubbling in people talking about it. There was a lot of rumors at that time about if they were going to do something similar to this because it, oh, we have these two extremes. We have like dreams who were homeless than you have. You know, a Harvard educated lawyer in Alex is there was not a buzz about the time in that season. Obviously went in a different direction where they had the haves and have nots in. It was more of not necessarily what anything to do with where they came from, but they were just kinda given those two roles of people who have it all on the people who have to fight hard on the island was kind of funny that it took so long to get back to anything even close to this. I think normally the things really don't matter that too much. But like you said, Leon, I really think this is going to impact a lot of their psyches because you're virtually telling half the people you're the underdog. That people are going to root for and the other half you are the holes that people don't like. See it is. It's tribe eho. Yeah. I mean, it's so interesting. The thing that I immediately drew comparisons to and I did it on the podcast with rob as well as champions versus contenders. And I feel like maybe in the beginning of that, you know there was a bit of managed. We are champions. We have to behave in a certain way. But again, spoiler alert forbid down the line of champion versus contenders that sort of went by the wayside a bit. So I have confidence that I think sort of like millennials versus gen-x, this might bear fruit out in the beginning, especially I think there's going to be sort of a gathering around for the David tribe of like, look, we are the underdogs by default, we have to be the ones to beat them. Like I think even the previews said something about like one tribe is to winning it all the other tribe, they're the underdogs. So I feel like that's like a nice thing to rally around, but I feel like the minute we get a swap. I think that once the game becomes much more individualized, I think those monikers I mean, quite literally, you're probably gonna go out the window because then it gets confused if you have David's on Goliath tribe, but I. That mentally speaking, people are going to become more so like it doesn't matter what I'm sort of representing or who I represent. I think I'm just gonna make the move that's going to better my gate. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I just can't imagine getting out there and being essentially told like, you know, and this is from the way Jeff Probst was talking about it, but goliaths are. Privilege. I don't know. I mean, I don't think I can't think of another way to really describe it. It's like, yeah, you've worked hard but like, you know, come on like you've gotten all of these benefits of life or something. I just can't imagine being out there being told that and then having that not impact how I play the game. I mean, maybe as like you said, Mike is the game goes on. It won't be a big deal, but at least initially my God, I mean, if I were somebody who has them like allies, try by probably pull an Allison and you know, maybe be somebody who was gonna flip to the David's on purpose because I don't want to be associated with the Goliath is will it could be like a horseshoe as well where it's really important in the beginning, not important in the middle, but then once the end comes around because I guess you could also ask the question, you know, on paper could a Goliath win survivor considering that, like if someone has been built out with this stigma, which Mike Wyche is purposely going to lean into like, hey, I come from this power position of power already. I don't necessarily need them. Money and the title. Do you think that a jury, depending on the makeup necessarily honor that just at the outset, looking on where they came from. Well, I mean, I think we so often talk and reality television about the underdog. And how often is it like root for the underdog? You know, we wanted underdog to win, and I feel like the David's are inherently underdogs. So like, how does that? How does that impact how people view them? And you know, yes, maybe you have sort of this reverse strategy where it's like, okay, well, all the gloves have to stick together because we're all privilege, you know, and like nobody can let a David get to the end, which I guess is par for the course. I think, you know, in terms of like other seasons, but which is just haven't hammered home like so much at the beginning I thought was really interesting. All right. Well, let's get into this next game here. So CBS two things a bit differently with their pre-game press. We did not get the traditional meet the cast videos. We got sort of Jeff Probst perceptions on each of the tribe. But what the survivor Twitter account did was they released every day like fifty second to a minute long clips, introducing the. Players, and we got a couple of other miscellaneous videos as well. Like, who is your survivor role model? How do you feel you would deal without food or sleep? So I pulled a couple of quotes from these videos and Paul Liana U2. are going to face off against each other to figure out who knows this cast the best. Here's how it's going to work one at a time. I'm going to read you a quote from one of these videos and you are going to guess the person who said that, well, now we're going to do this using twist rules. So if you just guess without any sort of hint you get two points, if you're correct, if you want to ask for a hint, I can provide you the tribe that they're on either a David or a Goliath, and if you get it right, you only get one point so you can take the bigger risk if you think you know the person or if you wanna play it safe and find out what tribe there on. You can do that at the sacrifice of one point. At the end of these sets of questions, whoever has the most. Points wins now have either one of you check out these Twitter videos before we get into it. Well, we don't ply because he doesn't have a phone. And in the dark, right literally. And in my lack of preparing the answer is no. Or I'm really nervous because the honor is really good at game. So. Like this is the Paul loses game. Yes. Let's see if that moniker holds a poll. Let's let's start with you here. So again, I'm going to read a quote off here from video for two points. You can guess the person without any sort of hint or for one point you can get a hint as to what tribe there on. Here's the quote, okay, when it sucks and it's raining, I wanna be the guy that everybody's like, oh, he's making it fun. He's embracing the suck. I'll take the tribe, please Goliath. Okay, who is going to embrace the suck? I'm going to say, ooh, who'd be embracing the sock. Maybe this is Mike saying he's going to be entertaining to them. I'll go with Mike. I'm sorry. The correct answer wedged. Dan at the Goliath in bloom is ready to a Louis. This suck in true full bloom fashion in my lap. That would be my out of my life. Fifth choice out of five. So no chance on that one hashtag embrace the suck. Itself, right? Liana. Let's go over to you. Hear what my try mates will think is the most endearing thing about me. We'll probably be the most annoying thing about me is that I do laugh at everything. Oh. I think I, you know what? I'll I'll take the hint, David, Goliath, tribe Goliath, I think it's Kara. That is correct. Your pick for the purple said that she is. It's a double edged sword that she laughs at literally everything. Everything that's going to be an interesting challenge. Let's see. I think it'd just be, I don't know. Maybe she won't get a purple edit. Then it'll be really hard to cut around her just consistently chuckling everything going on. They should put her in the audience for all of those shows that need laugh tracks like Boris is the permanent resident of like the big bang theory and young Sheldon or whatever other shows that have laughed. She might be out of a job with that first one pursued. That's right. The last season guys. Alright, so Liana is a head one point zero. Let's go back to Paul here. I think my smiles pretty contagious. I think people are already attracted to that. When you smile it, someone from the inner parts of your soul, they just can't hardly help, but smile back. God. Okay. What try David. Okay. David with an infectious smile. And needs to be someone self aware enough that says like, mice smile is awesome. So let's say Elizabeth, that is correct. Elizabeth Olsen, but the infectious smile. Okay. All right. What happened in the inner it? What happens if the inner parts of your soul? Very black does have the same infectious attitude. Then you get sent to prison in your mom reaches out the Bradley. You're my hero laughs. I bet you maybe carry is that prisoner like comments, lull on like every status, even when it's not appropriate? Exactly like ours shop, but she I'm literally Lulling. All right. We are tied up here. Let's go back to you. Liana being food and sleep deprived is going to really affect me, I think easily. So, I mean, I might be one of those players that face the first day. Ooh. Okay. I don't know. Can I have a hint Goliath. Okay. I might ain't the first day. I'm going to guess Jeremy Liana. You should have gone with literally every other introducer Perla to the interest in Italia. Of course, it was see should answer for everything so we might need to rich wreck, put go back and put her in for most likely to get medevac. She might pull up Boston Robin, pass out the first day. We're tied now, right? Yes, and I'm very happy are because I have a tiebreaking round set up here. Here's how it's going to work. As I mentioned before, there was a video that went up where the players went through their survivor role models. We're going to go rapid fire here back and forth. I'm gonna give you the name of the former player. You're gonna give me the name of the current player who said that this person was their role model. So for example, if I said Jay star, it, you would say, Alec make sense. Oh, known that one boy. All right. All right. Let's let's start with you. Liana Sandra. Oh. Cry and cry, incorrect, Jeremy poll. Hi. Be yourself be? That is correct. Loved the hashtag Liana Adam, Kline. Alec as incorrect, I would've accepted Kara or Nick. Paul poverty. Angelina incorrect. Mike white Liana Sirri fields. Natalie incorrect Christian. Paul entry belks. Andrew Belsky era, incorrect Alison. We on a Boston rob Talia incorrect, Natalie, Paul Cochran. Now what is even happening Cochran Christian incorrect John had again. So there was a fun round of Papa. You got one, right? So you win this game. I wanted to put that in there just because there are some pretty fun picks in there. Like Mike picking poverty? Yeah. Yeah, I like that. I think that's my favorite. I think Mike says my favorite, the fact that he picks today. His role model. It was like. He did it just to like troll like because everyone says they're like poverty. I was gonna say, I love that lake. Everyone says, oh, too many people say that they're like poverty, but I think Mike white might be the most unconventional person say that poverty is survivor role models specifically because he said she was a cunning little vixen. Hey, you know what? Maybe that's just what he aspires to be good for him. You go Mike white. Absolutely. We'll see if his flirtation strategy works here as well, but that'll hopefully let you get to know the cats have been more I think. So a couple more Twitter videos have to get released before the premiere, but congratulations to Paul for being able to eat out victory here. Thank you. Thank you and omen. Throwing the, it's no longer the Paul loses came. Yeah, Leon lose their game. That makes more sense. Well, Paul as the winner, what question did you have to prepare to bring to this discussion? Okay. The one thing I want to jump into talk a little bit about about what what are the format expectations we have for the season like just given our gonna. These tribes are going to go into three at some point or we still going to have a big merge a, how our other, we're gonna swap the tribes and a lot of this here speculation. But where do you think we are in survivor in terms of what is a given for for formats? I mean, I definitely think we're gonna get. I think we're gonna get to swaps pre marriage. I think we're probably going to get, and this is complete speculation. This is based in nothing except for my own musings. So I think we're going to get a swap. And then I think we're going to go to three tribes. Then we're going to go to merge. Then it's merge through the like basically, like a ghost island. Yeah, I think I am keynotes reasons he by us, right? I mean, I think that you have tendency to stick with trends. I mean, maybe a millennial gen-x not to think about how much impact that has a spoiler. But yes, I don't know. I think it was island I was looking millennials versus gen-x personally, because I think that like that's the last big versus where two tribes against each other and where the theme was so ingrained from the start. You could save what you want about triple h, but I feel like they sort of dropped really talking about that in the beginning, whereas I really do feel like it's going to be David versus Goliath. It's going to be at least at the tip of Jeff's tongue refu- episodes. So that's why I know when I taught. On rows pockets about how they're going to swap and episode like four or five people thought that was too soon. But I don't know. I know that there's twenty people, but I feel like they're going to want to hang out in these tribes for a bit. So I'm thinking a swap, maybe an episode of five, but I could see them going to the three tribes where one tribe just gets. I don't know, just gets one more person. They do sort of what they did with Eka Boola where it's like you get one more person, but you don't get any supplies. Probably just gonna win everything like they always do. Yeah, I think you're probably might right in that. Mike. I just hope I would like to go see them with algae and the three tribes just so it's not a given every season. I just think we need to keep the contestants on our toes have us beyond our chosen, not know if it's gonna go to three tribes or not, but I think that's definitely a fair assumption for the season that they're going to need. At least four episodes really build the tension between the two tribes tensions of the talked about to in your podcast with rob about how it's going to be fun to have Zantac Vic sides going at it. Why think that's it's interesting that you talked about keeping them on their toes because I mean, they had it really seen, go silent up to that point. So even if they followed the exact format that goes violent, did they wouldn't necessarily suspect it. The most recent one they saw was like game changers where they went from two to three back to two. So maybe they would suspect that instead of two to three. Yeah. I mean, I don't know in terms of keeping players on their toes. Like if if it's a swab sort of regardless of the format, like you never know what you're going to get. I think for me the biggest thing about having three tribes. It's just the fact that the numbers are so low and you know, you really don't have a place to hide, which I guess is maybe the exciting part of it, but I think you increase the likelihood that somebody gets swapped screwed. I really don't like that just in general. So I'd be okay with that. Not happening, but you know, I can definitely see the three tribe thing happening, sort of millennials, gen-x style at upside. Five will. One question I do have though is something bringing over from ghost island, do we think we're going to see the return of the like double tribal council in the mid merge where they put the players up into two tribes? Because if not, then they're probably going to have to do one of those other hurry up penultimate episodes where they eliminate two people in one episode riot seeming that we're going to merge thirteen like we usually do with twenty. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think I don't know because I Don. I was trying to think if there was any sort of indication of the format from pro so far. I don't think there has been right. Yeah, I know. I don't necessarily think so. What do you think Paul d think that they would take some of these? Not even that type of format in the pre merged, but like some of these other things that are going to shake things. Obviously, the fire making twist is going to stay. But anything else you feel like it's gonna get brought over from previous seasons into this one. I was thinking more about the premium how we're gonna get to that merge. And then I think if we go in with a big huge merge again that they're gonna have to recycle some of those things for this Astra season. So we'll see. I'm always been advocate of. I don't think we always into merge in that such a huge number is then that that long stretch of the the merge can just be a little bit too long in you don't get to know the characters or the strategy. Don't understand it quite as quite as much because they're told many people still in the game. So we'll be interested. I'm hopeful to see that maybe that they'll have a little more confidence in the pre-game the pre merge season and that maybe that'll go an extra week or two. So we'll have to see. Okay. Well, stepping away from some of the format discussions, I would like to move into one of my favorite segments because our preseason would not be complete if we did not check in with the Casuals over in casual corner. This is the next game. Yes. Ya'll doc. BBC he I b. I then like CC from a millennials, genetics power lines for all star season BBC. Yes. Well, and then we can find out what the casualties think of the BBC a. But for now we will stick with their opinions on survivor David versus Goliath. So what I've done is I've gone to the survivor Facebook page and I have pulled comments that have been written by people on the Facebook page. So I will go back and forth, and I will read four statements. Three of them were pulled from the survivor Facebook page. One of them was written by me, so it is up to you to pick out which one was written by me. Okay. Let's get started. So Mike, this first question is for you and it's just generally survivor casual thoughts about the season. A where is Kevin Hart. Jeff Probst is like of Benjamin button. See what about a shearing countdown or better still countdown to lamb. Roast. What. Or d does anyone know where the website is that shows uncensored nip slips for survivor. Oh, God. All right. No, I don't want to be real, but I know it's real. There's not only the fact that someone would see that content, but that would go onto the Facebook page of the show to solicit for that content. I have no idea what the shearing or the lamb roast would be response to because I think like was there some sort of, I don't know, like sheep reference being made in the in the post that they had them respond to. I can't give hints my all right. So then was nonsensical so it has to be real. So it's between heaven heart and Probst is like a Benjamin button. I feel like I feel like you wrote, whereas Kevin Hart. That is incorrect. Where's Kevin harvest actual comments? No. The one that I wrote with Jeff Probst is like Benjamin, I was so close so close. Yes. I don't know what the shearing countdown or better still countdown to Lambros was in reference to you. It was just a general comment about, like is everybody excited for the new season of survivor? This kind of a lamb roast that he wanted to publicize to all the survivor fans like, hey, guys, and I'm gonna lamb roast. If you wanna come down days, that's a new version of the watch party. We're going to have a lamb roast. Seniors invited. She's actually she's the main person. She's turning this spitting everything. Let us thinking shearing countdown. Is that like like shearing sheep is not a competition? I don't. I wasn't quite a shirt, but yes, it was nonsensical. So of course it's real. All right, Paul, this question is for you also general thoughts about survivor a win, Jeff, says survivors ready? Is that a question or a command. Are you ready? At the end was being on the KIRO talent. My granddaughter and I watch it and eat beef jerky. We love it or d. which one of them is the David. I think the Celtics in Rhode see personally. I, I don't think grandma's are watching this in eating beef jerky. You wrote that one that one is real. Apparently. Yeah, woman and her granddaughter watch it and and eat beef jerky. No, which one of them is the David. That was the comment that I wrote. I know I still I do. I do like the question though, in Jeff says survivors ready? Is that a question or a command? Think that's something to continue to ponder. Okay, mic this next question is for us. So there were some posts that were specific about different players. So these were comments on post about Dan whom one commenter said. Looks like fifties, younger brother. Another twenty. I you know, he's been utilizing festive fitness connecting with other Jim Brose and that was how he was able to lose the weight so much exactly for him. Okay. So, hey, I read that as quote closet nerd as in someone who really likes closets and he'd come, organize my closet. Sometime laugh. Cry face emoji, left Christ, face emoji laugh. Cry face. Okay, Carol, we get it. You're using several different accounts. Knowing what your NDA forbade you from doing trying to respond to these posts. Yes. Be what is the name of the new merge tribe? Please reply to me a s a p. The urgency, and that one considering that the season and not even the lamb roast has begun yet. ASAP, Mike. Okay. See, wind does this season air. I've been needing a big dose of Mr. deeds hormones. Nubian both or d one look at him and I think I heard came, oh. Who starts now. Well. Come, oh my God. That is. There's so many things that are running through my Ryan right now when it comes to hurricane category, five thoughts, but I'm quite filled. Subsisted downs, look at tropical storm. All right. Let's think here. I think I'm gonna hurricane sounds like something you would. Right. So I'm gonna keep it in contention right now. Mr. de such a weird way to refer to him. Like you might have written that as well. All right. Let's see a b. I think Israel, I think someone wants to know the merge, try for some strange reason. Maybe they're trying to print their own buffs and even that information as sap what was again, I read that as closet nerd as someone who really likes closets, he can come, organize my closet anytime. So decrepit smudge crap is much. Absolutely. I think that it reminds me of like SNL sketch, where will forte is the closet organizer where he was wearing like Immo cap soup, and they're throwing things at him that could be Dan. I feel like it's between c and d. God I want want her a came to be thing. I'm gonna say Mr. d is not the real one. Thou one was real. The one I wrote was one look at him. I think it was so close again. Wouldn't be proud of yourself on that one. The so proud. I thought it out late last night and I couldn't stop laughing at myself. It's so bad. Also fun fact be was real and somebody answered boom, boom, Magoo. So if the name of the new merge tribe. We owe that person. It's named after fortunately in Christian and Mike who got medevac because they walked into a tree for not being able to see boom, boom ago. Bouma goo part of the c- Angela play survivor game book. Okay, Paul, this next question is for you and these were comments all about Davey. So. I have him at the work pool. Go Davey be over. Cool. They got like a swimming pool, like why had? Okay. Gotta gotta gotta gotta go. Pool b, w t f is a blurred. See, I'm not from third world country, so I don't care about polio. Oh, okay. All right. Now that makes sense because then his video, he said that he wouldn't phase like initiatives he worked toward the Radicati polio. Yeah. Video. Well, or d-. D. h. ATM. Like. This is like it's kinda weird. That's okay. Because in my like the pool that I do with like that I've done forever within small sick. My mom in her like her colleagues at work in south by mom has has Davy in the work pool. So that's kind of weird. Your mom alterable, right? Yes. And then she also like her signature thing is if you're not impressed by something, she unknowingly just always goes. So we always say that. So that's kind of weird. There's some signs in the universe here and then the polio wanted think that definitely happens. Second. The second one is when you wrote it was actually I'm not from third world country, so I don't care about polio. I did write that someone else did. I will say. So I don't know if this is cheating, but they said, holy. That was all I got the idea. I actually did watch video that one. That was a good guess. All right. Next question is about Kara and this is for Mike a Dom. Got rob be what NFL team, what she had cheerleader on my guest, the Pittsburgh Steelers, dot, dot dot. I don't think it was my New England, Patriots. They have more class than that. See to one or d. r.. I love these like onomatopoeia as so. I feel like I feel like argh is a thing to blonde definitely sounds like the Casuals that sometimes like to pick apart through our contestants appearance also, she's not too blind. What does that mean? She's on a targe area and so it's between. Let's see, it's between what team. She cheerleader. Four, hopefully not my New England, Patriots or what was it again? Dom. Got robbed. Ooh, I want to say you wrote Dom got robbed. No, I wrote to blonde little terrified because I think I've learning Casuals now I think this is like the turing tests where like now you have become part of the casual high bind. This is why all my takes trash. Okay. So we are still pied zero, two, zero. All this question is for you and this is about our favorite Alec. Say now on the talent, you know, I don't even think or videos to. Yeah, shocker shocker. I shocked on the phone to know that. Yes. Okay. Hey, like ha- dude, like ha- dot dot, dot, dot dot, you're going to lose the the home. Got rubbed. See JAMA fork in my forehead. Please. More shag bag. Who do beg speller d. o. u. c. h. bag. Friends, they Deutsche bag. I think you. You did the damning the fork. No, I wrote God robbed. Shrink him. I know I was wondering if there was one person consistently dumb got robbed on every single post on Facebook, Mike, you're actually onto something because the answer to that is yes, there is one person as I was going through all these. I was like. Keeps posting Dom got robbed on every single post these same person, but this person had a little bit more variation in some of the posts. They had a little bit more create creativity on some people's posts, and they had very specific comments about Dom getting robbed. So these next two questions you our job is to actually the contestants Miller. Mike to the game that we played earlier, you have to guess the contestant who on whose post this was a comment in English. Yeah. I mean, this is going to be a basically a shot in the dark more so than it was previously for these other questions. So I'm excited for it. I think some of these are. All right. So let's just go ahead and play. Mike. This question is for you, the quote, the comment was attorney. Maybe he can help Dom sue forgetting Rob's. I mean, that has to be Jeremy. Okay. Well, I was gonna give you multiple choice, but yes, that is correct. It is Jeremy. The other options were Nick Angelina or Bradley. Okay, Paul, this question is for you quote, hopefully she's smart enough to not get robbed like Dom dead, a Natalia, be Allison CE Yabe or d. Natalie. From the Talia, right? It's gotta be heard. Oh, I wish this were the case, but no, it was. Yeah, didn't you say the numb Natalia wasn't posted yet? So we're video up. Oh, yeah. She's so some of the other comments include, maybe she can cook up a scheme to not get robbed like Dom. That was a dream come true for Dom until he got robbed. Anyway, so these continue on and on the same person. So yes, making sure that says Dom got robbed all by it team got robbed, boycott. They screwed on and screw the show. So this one person really thinks Don got robbed. We did someone said someone posted, make a t shirt that says, Tom dot, Robin, all wear it, and I'll buy it. Yup. Wow. Jonny. Fairplay. I hope you're listening right? Exactly. Capitalize on this one guy. The other comment that I did think was pretty funny was about John. I didn't have enough to pull a question on him, but somebody said he has a ladies top on period question Mark. So I thought that was fun, wasn't punctuation as he ever ladies stop on. Ready. I five is ready period question Mark. All right. Well, congratulations. Mike, you are the winner of Paphos core or with one point. I'm excited to see how the casualties changed their opinions on everyone. They seem to really love Dan and were lukewarm on literally everyone else. Yes, lukewarm I will not say anything about hurricanes based on that. And of course we'll see if they, if they still feel that Dom got robbed several weeks in. That's right. Yes. Well, that hurricane flooded my basement, boy, let's move on three of seasons that had inclement weather. I want to bring something up here is millennials versus gen-x the most influential season in recent memory. The reason why I ask that is because it feels like from multiple sides that might be the case, I know in talking to you and I one out, I hear a lot about how people were like inspired to apply because I'm versus genetics. You have someone like Angelina who's directly connected through Adam, Alec talked about, like, you know, he'd been watching the show for years. Then finally someone watching someone like Jay, you also have production pulling this sort of versus versus. At one tribe or just another theme because before that, I mean, I'm thinking about like tribes that were twenty people all new two tribes. The last time was what Nicaragua that that happened before we got the stretch of eighteen person season. So the fact that we kept going back to this between like ghost island and now this three seasons out of the last five or so. I feel like the show was really happy and the audience is really happy with Montiel's versus x. that it's not only encouraged people to apply for the show, but also encouraged the show to maybe you know, slide into that direction in terms of its theme in the way it runs things. What do you guys think about that? I mean, so people have been mentioned, millennials, gen-x, I think now for the past few seasons would see a pop up here and there. But yeah, like you said, my really just everyone seemed to be talking money genetics. Now, I don't know if this is a just sort of the survivors sort of sick like behavior where it's like, okay, millennials, Jennifer would gen-x was an all new players. Season. It was recent enough, but wasn't too recent. Right? So you know, these this cast can't really pull on heroes. Healers is or ghost island just because there's not enough time. You know the way that the seasons are film to sort of really take in those seasons in have the impact the application process in impact a lot of the people that end up coming to play the game. But I will say that it's doesn't seem to be coming from just the contestants. It's also from, you know, it seems like Jeff Probst the way the season is structured. So I have to believe that just because it was such a successful season that it does seem to be having some lasting impacts on pretty much every facet of the show at this point on this with the with the characters on that you Raba was back to that lineal tribe and this kind of how they were. I just think it's a season that production was happy with it. We're happy with with played out and you can just point to so many different characters on that season and just relate them to do. Characters that you wanna be like or archetype. So I think that I wouldn't be surprised if some for the next couple of seasons still that this is kind of the go-to season to talk about new players seasons. Yeah. And you know what, say, what you want to about millennials, verse connects obviously opinions vary in the survivor community, but I do feel like if you're looking for a relatively recent season that you know, has characters has a lot of flips being made in blindsides and then also does not have you know, big controversial endings like you might see with co wrong or triple h. I really do feel like that ineffective offensiveness sort of has turned towards millennia versus gen-x. Also, the fact that you know, that was the first season to have be in Fiji since the opponent survivor Fiji. And so that's sort of where they are from there on out. So sort of makes sense that you know, that was the show's flagship returned to Fiji and the way carried out there like, okay, now that things are based in Fiji. We're going to start running things a bit more like. Did back during millennials versus genetics because we have the same territory and we know what to do with it. Yeah, I actually think that's a good point. So it's trying to think of another season that could like it's not millennial genetics. What could it be? And Koran was I one of the popped into my mind, but yeah, because of sort of the controversial ending. You know, that one sort of not taints the rest of the season, but I think you know when people think of wrong daas what they think of and they kind of ignore the rest of the season, which was pretty amazing. I mean, I really really like, is this season. And so that's why it's sort of forgotten. And then other than that, you know, the other seasons are really stand out are like second chances, but that's a returning players season. And so it's sort of you differently. So we shall see how closely this Hughes to millennials versus jenex, but I just thought it was interesting comparison considering, like you said, Leon, it really did feel like that was like this season topic of conversation as people were talking with Josh, and that's going to bring us to our final segment of each and every week here on the BNB. The question of the week of this is your first time tuning into the BNB. First off, I hope you enjoyed the malarkey we put out, but basically what we do at the end of every week is that we put out a question of the week that you listeners can answer. You'll send us your answers a read them on the air next week. The question for this. This week is if you were playing survivor, what would you put as your claim to fame? The reason why I ask this is because these survivors have some rather interesting claims to fame and they range from the obviously big points in their life being a part of the fam- or raising a family, etc to you know, Davies entire diatribe about how you know he runs all these social media accounts of people recognize him by his handle Allison's biggest was winning a fifth grade spelling bee, so it'd be intrigued to hear from all of you what your claim to fame is all. Would you say that being a podcast Goliath is yours or chump stain. Being the head writer on the BNB. I mean, what else? What other answers are there. Yeah. What I like about this is sort of this whole probably only apply to like people in Argenta ration- only ninety kids. We'll get this. The claim to fame reminds me a bit of guys. I remember the show, figure it out on Nickelodeon. Yeah, yes, yes, I do remember I don't think airing. Airing, but I remember it totally, but I remember existing. So it's a show. I think it's like similar, the modern equivalent. Oh, I think the show is called what's my line? The old game show where you know you. This kid comes in who like has this this quoting. To the panel just fill in the blanks. I'm Billy the answer head. It's sort of feels like the claim to fame is that like, you know, oh, I jump rope with my sisters braids or my favorite is my dog. Eat cereal. Outta my belly button. Which, again, like that's not your talent, dude. But, okay, you won the huffy bike anyway. I feel like the claim to fame has slowly become that people are like, here's my talent that I can do this. You totally revived that show. My favorite part was when they had the conveyor belt and the clues would like real out on the conveyor belt, and then people would get slime for getting it wrong. See who needs Murphy Brown. We need a reboot of this show. I actually think they did do a reboot that did not work. But yeah, I do remember the secret slime action, which was like, if you did something, you got something it again. Maybe the unfair producers were like secret slime action is being shaky, Neil. And so as soon as like the round started, they just slime them. So we get, we can go into many more tangents figure it out related or otherwise in later weeks on the BNB's. So your question this week, if you played survivor, what would be your plame to fame and any sort of capacity? You have a bunch of ways you can reach out to us with that information. You can always leave a comment on this post on route has a website dot com. You can reach out to us on Twitter using the hash tag our age AP the NB the letter b. the letter n. letter be always respond to the post and the rob has a patron group. You can also respond to this question. If you have a longer response or if you want to send us game idea, you can always reach out to RHA p. e. n. b. at g mail. Dot com or always receptive to ideas for new games and segments. We'll be coming back week after week to talk through this season and the start off this coverage of David versus Goliath with the big ninety minute premiere. It's our one year anniversary Liana. It was only a year ago that we started the BNB. Our very first podcast I made the worst joke I've ever made, which is saying something considering my Cornelius and I thought it was only fitting that we bring in the subject of that first horrible, horrible pun into the BNB to welcome us to survivor thirty seven. So the one and only roar Gluskin from survivor heroes. Healers hustler is going to be joining us next week to play through all of these games and segments about the premiere episode of survivor DVD. I am beyond excited just as I am excited for the season. We are going to put things in Rourke, and we're going to roll all the way through a fun content from the season or mere. I really think. It's going to be a blast or you beyond the, I Wiley hashtag beyond excited. I would've die. There actually is a half with. Please, whoever you survivor God's, please provide me a b hashtag as the b. Oh, that's, you know what? What do we do? We think in the wand off, someone's going to submit let it be. Yeah, I was gonna say, giving people ideas. Yeah. So we only give people ideas for their preseason predictions likely on it. So that being said, actually a really nice set way, make sure you're checking on all the great survivor content that's going on on our p. as this season begins to ramp up between know it all the recap, the feedback show the wiggle room and why blank lost with David versus Goliath, Jessica Lewis, but thank you both for coming on and submitting yourself to trying to nail down quotes from these Twitter videos, diving into Casuals corner Liana. How can people follow you on social media as you are also beginning to finish up this season of big brother? Twenty? Yes. So I am on social media at Leon Boris. And like you said, Mike, we are finishing cover a coverage of big brothers. So I actually did my final Liana Saturday update as we're wrapping all of that up, but fee are not Mike, you and I will be back for our final episode of the j. p.. BBN be. B. i. b. I b I b I. B. b. i. b. i. b. I n. b.. As we close things out our our panel who yet to wrap up everything that went on in this crazy very long season. So I'm looking forward to that as well. All what about you. This is about it. You get from podcasting, you probably won't hear from me for a long time. So you may. You may not want to delete this podcast wanna keep it for a rainy day. Yeah, this might be you actually might be a podcast want tattooed Paul. I do know that a couple of weeks ago we got together with the survivor historians and talk for us right. Survivor Samoa. Yeah, that was kind of ridiculous. So yeah, you can find the survivor historian, south air, Endo. We've wrapped Samoa and probably be about five years before we finished, here's films, but I assume we're doing that at some time, so, but just don't get your hopes up way. A good thing has come to those who wait, I suppose, but that was it was really interesting, got into a lot of selling this, but I think we also got into a very, you know, pretty serious. Talk about, you know, the whole Russell kerfuffle that happens at the end, the community perceived it at cetera. You can always follow Paul. Apple also saying as well. You can follow me at a Mike bloom type. You can check out the exit press. I'm doing on parade. I'm finishing up doing some big brother press. I just posted exit, press with the fifth and fourth place, or I'll have exit press, but the three finalists as well. The day after the finale and survivor is going to be ramped up as well. 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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 7 with Jessica McKenna

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 7 with Jessica McKenna

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You want to come behind this tree for a second. Oh, well, not for that type of proposition. But thank you, Mike. Yeah. I realized that soon as I said it much like survivor your words can get you in trouble, depending on the way you deliver things at. Yeah. By would I grabbed my stuff and walk straight to Ponderosa? If I said that in the game. Yeah. Right now, I quit. I'll pull a B's knee and just go home. But I promise I won't for you under the bus at tribal. Oh, that's good. See you you love me. But you don't have a funny way of showing it. Unlike elissa. Lita, but we are so happy to be joined for this very special merge episode by a star or Callo Kalo if you will in her own, right. You can check her out on the air wolf podcast off book and improvised musical podcast as well. As a slew of other podcasts out there in the general atmosphere, and she is a huge survivor fan in her own, right? Jess mckenna. Welcome to the BNB. How you doing my gosh? That was so good Kalo. Oh, man. I'm great. Thanks for having me. I I apologize. I didn't want to come off as too much of a know it all by knowing what Kalo Kalo means it carves? You're listening to this. And you haven't turned out yet. My apologies, man. Oh my gosh. I'm starting to get a little sensitive to like every woman being bossy or no at all. I was like guys just because like the language used for women in this episode was like. Even though I was like really girl. Well, before before we get into David versus Goliath. Jess, I would love if you wanna give for those who that might not know you just a basic intro on yourself. But also when you started watching survivor, and what has kept you invested in show. So many seasons. Yes. So I'm a actor and improviser in Los Angeles who has a podcast where my partner Zachary known, I plus guest and musicians improvise a brand new musical every week. And it's a lot of fun and it's called off book. And I watched survivor like when it first came out as like a child, and then I had years away from it. And I now for the life of me can't remember who was like, hey, you should get back into it. I want to say it might have been Mary Holland. Who's also like a podcast comedy person and actor in LA. And so now I've been watching the I would say I've watched the last ten seasons. Burton sat and watched the last ten seasons very intensely. Interesting. So you do recall any reason why you sort of like took that high eighties from it. I think I know sorry, go ahead. I think college in like probably not having TV in the same way. You know, like, my TV in college was like through the internet cable, you know, and it was like weird. And I used to like, you know, the only thing I would manage to like follow was just like torrent episodes of the office or sometimes it's like paying for it on IT. And because I had to see what was happening when Jim and Pam of other that that was like just a real drop off in TV watching and then. Similarly, I think just like a lot of people don't ever go back to having like full TV, you know, like a, but I might thankfully, my roommate in Los Angeles. We were just like to obsessed with it. So we're like will eat soup. But we'll have all TV. So I think it was kind of just like as my my TV access through. I was like handbag into survivor, and it was the best decision. I ever made. We'll that's it's funny because I think that's actually how I started watching big brother and survivor and other reality TV shows was because we didn't really have TV, and then I was in the hospital, and there was a TV, and I like stoned on pain meds. What my brother, and I was like, oh, this is awesome. Like medicine. I hope everything is okay. This is a pen to sign on my panics removed. But it was like, you know, ten years ago. Yeah. No, I'm I'm alive and fine. But yeah, no. I totally feel because you know, you almost like you watch it if it's on. But then you don't really have act if you don't have access to it. You know, it's like outta sight outta mind. So right. Yeah. And I guess I definitely didn't have like DVR Tibo. And I was and it wasn't yet where we had like who install or like so many streaming options. So it's just like, you know, as imperial of my life where I was just in general watching less TV, which was may be good. But. Survivor. I do like this winning combination as well of soup and survived for some reason. I just think those those pair really nicely. Yes. Like white rice Wednesday. And yes. It'd be able we have a friend on this network who likes to do she calls like Snapchat, which is like Snapchat, the foods that you're eating while you're watching survivor, but I think we need to do amendments have like soup chat. Like, what super are you eating right now? While you're watching this. That's a great idea. Happy for C chat. Anytime. Well, Liana what what soup would you compare to this merger episode of survivor how creamy and delicious was a man I would say it was it was definitely hardy. You know? I felt like a really solid episode. But it definitely had a little bit of a kick to it. I'm gonna go with broccoli cheddar. Villi really the type of soup that this episode just fully embodied anger. Great answer. Mid would it be ins because you know, I I have a group of friends that watches in Los Angeles on our Tex chain is the chain has spoken, and I. Like for some reason we hadn't done any group viewing yet until this week, which also Mike we've been talking about this for a little bit. I'm so like astonished and odd that it ended up being the merge episode. I feel so honored. Oh my gosh. What a joy. I mean. I am saddened that we didn't get you talking in time about the the 'nigma that is not only Mike. We'll get your thoughts on her recieving at some point. But yeah, just just having to work out that, you know, arguably the biggest episode even though ended up being really twelve to one vote had a lot of stuff going on hardy broccoli Chaz Leon. I think that broccoli cheddar is such a perfect answer. Because there was a moment where I was like, oh my gosh. Is this is about to be like this spiciest jambalaya? I've ever had is like Gabby finding her voice. No. But it was still a very classic episode where there was like at least good conversations. And so I think broccoli cheddar is like really perfect. And I don't know how you guys felt but I felt like the last two seasons were especially last season. We're just a disappointment in terms of game play. So it was just like oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. People like actually gonna make lose. They're actually going to talk about this in the right way. Instead of just like I have no idea what you're thinking. Laurel, you know, like so it was though it. Didn't end up being that spicy of an episode. I think it it showed the beginnings of a lot of promise. So I think hardy broccoli cheddar's. A really good answer. Okay. I have. So I have two things then thinking about so when I was a story that happened to me when I was little I'm tried to make soup like, but I didn't really know what was in soup. So I like boil some water, and I put them like carrots and stuff. And then I can't I don't like I don't even think I put like any like chicken Bouillon or anything and you basically made like hot Hamlin. Exactly. That's exactly what I made. I remember thinking it looked like soup. So it must be soup. Of course. I didn't try it. I made my stepdad eat it. Just like in my head. I remember being like, yeah. You had my soup, and I look back and like oh that poor man. Like at least I didn't poison him. So that was ghost island goes island. What I was thinking. Absolutely. We were all your stepdad forcing down soon for like dominant can win. Yeah. Like, they were good. Like, I wasn't mad about those carrots. It was just like this. They don't stand out when they're only surrounded by hot water. Exactly like, fundamentally the ingredients were fine. Exactly. Exactly. So I guess I can infer that you've been really liking all seven episodes. We've seen of David versus Goliath so far. Well, actually, what was it. What we were thoughts. I going into this because I the community generally sort of maligned the theme were you sort of on the same page of this season has exceeded those very low expectations at the beginning. And I think that a kind of goes to show that like sometimes less is more. You know, like ghost island was like such a hat on a hat on a hat, and it ended up just like all in flat. You know, like every time there it goes on when I was like what the heck is even when of this. And so may those stupid earns said starring no game for you. Or whatever it was just like this is pointless. But also, I don't like I mean, I don't mind when survivor self-referential, but that whole season is is like referencing itself. Anyway. So I thought David David and Goliath what I think is like a a little like weaker. But I also didn't mind it too bad. I don't like that. It felt like it had some like some of the physical realities of that split. I think was just like an annoying leg-up to the David to the Goliath rather. But. But, but I think the thing that was really afraid of it was like that the same thing what's going to happen as last season, which was like this arbitrary thing that you're put in for four days is now the only alliance you care about even though you might have like better connections and better like relationships with which to play. So it was like if these goliaths just like trampled. These David's this is gonna suck. But I think it's I've really enjoyed this season. I think there's like a big improvement in cash theme. Not that I thought like individually people were bad unless she's in her the season before it just like someone fell last season. Had too many babes like too many dislike good looking people who I was like, this is definitely just the future of their travel blog. I'm looking at you, Sebastian and Jen. Hey, do not do not despair. The great Sebastian Jenna of YouTube voice. Follow them on Instagram. I'm happy for their love. It just didn't seem. We'll be playing, you know, like, yeah. So I wasn't like particularly excited about an like using David's and glasses nouns. Also just felt like so weird. But but you know, David does win. So hopefully, I would like to see like an under underdog win. But I feel like people are so aware that that's such a good narrative, which is why they were like even though I'm not digging here. She was right to like point the light Christian because he's obviously has like the best story cooking so far in. It's kind of a shame that people know that like if you have a good story will probably win. So let's get them out. But that was Ramle Ramle answered yet. I'm liking it. I'm liking it. Listen, Ramle answers should be like, I don't know it should the invisible Texan as pot of the show of Ramle answers. Oh, I think that to that point. I mean, even you mentioned this Angelina is now painting Christian as a Goliath because you can tell they're even like warping, the narratives that they were given within their own tribe, and you see someone like Allison. Who's like? Yeah. Like working with Gabby because I'm not a Goliath. I'm David it seems like even from the beginning only a couple of people really wanted to buy into that Goliath title. But I think I listened to a secret seen this week where I forget who it was maybe it was Christian saying something on the lines of the advantage that the glides had in the pre merge is now going to be a disadvantage in that. Now, they're going to be the ones who really stick out. I don't know if he realized that he has unintentionally become a Goliath Leon Liana. Do you think that that's I mean, obviously, we'll talk more about the future and longevity and stuff elsewhere in this podcast? But I mean, do you think that that holds true that? These are just going to completely reverse on things. Now in that good wires down just going to be such big targets above the David. Why think it's complicated because yes, the goliaths pretentiously physically stand out as bigger targets. But to sort of go back, just what you're talking about is, you know, this idea of being a you can't be taken to the end because you already have this good narrative. And so even Angelina in her lot her her argument was like we can't let them get to the end 'cause he's gonna win. And I feel like the David's because they have that good story are also going to be targeted for that reason. So I think I think it really could go either way, and we talk a lot about, oh, you know, the theme of the season, whatever they're still in Fiji's. They're going to have to keep coming up with these themes. That's fine. But I always think it's interesting how it might actually play a role in the season and people that sort of pick up and soak up the narrative and then start to incorporate that into their game play. I mean that could be them just using this common language. Also that could be the language that the producers are. Picking for the confessionals. But, but it's interesting to hear that people are still thinking along David and Goliath lines not just the tribal lunch, but also sort of as this metaphor for a certain type of person. So let's move on into our usual fare, you're on the beam be I'm sure we will get plenty more talk about this briefly cheddar of an episode of the podcast. We're going to start here with our traditional segment the time capsule prediction, so to explain to you. Jessica sort of reset the clock for anyone who might not remember before the season Liana, and I each wrote down specific predictions as to how each person in the cast would do, and we sealed it up as to not reveal it until that person got voted out. So unfortunately, poor miss Elizabeth Olsen. Our resident lizard person. Don, her cowboy hat for the last time in Fiji before she becomes a member of the jury and so- Leon, and I are going to unveil our preseason predictions that we made for Elizabeth respectively. Just as the third guest. You are the arbiter of our fates you going to determine who has the more accurate prediction now before we get into this. I want to ask you since you have this. Group of friends that you sort of consort with periodically for survivor. Do you guys do any like drafts winner picks before the season anything like that? No. But we maybe we should actually used to be even though I wasn't watching it. My mom used to deal with her friends and one time, and I was just like would pick a player randomly, and then not watch it. Because again, this is in my like dark when I went to Arkansas reviver, and I won one with. Which is I think probably annoying, but. No, we don't I'd done it for bachelor and bachelorette before and then I found that sometimes like took a little bit of the fun away. But a random winner strap. I think we'll be fun. You guys do that. When you watch. I mean besides for the pod I'm in. I'm definitely in a couple of drafts that I do. And then I do. Yeah. It's fun. It's fun. And then I do this one thing. It's called foot office pools. If anybody is interested contact me, it's super fun, and essentially it's just like season-long competition where we like put points on who's going home. And we try to like make predictions of the episode very intricate, and it's so much fun. But yeah. The more intricate ones, I think are more fun. Like when I did like a bachelor at one where you could get points for like how many times year person would like say like can I steal you first second or like that kind of stuff you get additional points rather than just like players. I this is fun. But anyway, I think he had drafts her fun. I haven't done one per survivor. Maybe I'll look into it for next season. Well, Liana let's let's go to you here to start with missile is a bit. How did you think she would do preseason? She definitely her personality. Stuck out like a sore? Thumb. Did you feel like that would fare well or poorly for her? Okay. So I decided to use AI to help write my predictions this season. And so while I want to answer your question. Mike. I also had to say. Delicious dig into it. So I did have Elizabeth making the jury, and this is what I slash my predictive. I wrote Elizabeth biggest strength and the game was I laurel even trustworthy so naturally. Others wanted her as part of their alliance come the merge. However, Jeremy, Elizabeth loyal even trustworthy behavior wasn't directed towards him. In a daring move, Jeremy convince the rest of the tribe to voter out because of her smiling positive. Smiling. Positive clam personality would be enough to win her the million dollars. Although Elizabeth takes the blindside well in her exit interview, she complains about Jeremy stating he noodle people. Josh. Don't know what that means. But that was the thing. I would say the syntax actually worked pretty well there until she called her a clam. Yeah. Also think if you substitute of Carl in there for Jeremy that's actually pretty accurate as to one what's happening at the Meryl Streep close, just let's go at that. Yeah. Sure. That's definitely what happened. I just missed Carl. Exactly. Did was a little bit of a misnomer on your point. I mean in her exit press, she actually was she did go pretty hard in on Carl from what she talked what you talk with me about. She was like I wanted to throw these challenges when I was on YouTube. I don't think Karl understood what that meant. So it's clear that she is. I think she really did love everyone. But clearly no love lost for Carl. So let let's see how mind compares I had Elizabeth making the finale theory bullish on the woman who likes to wrangle bulls in her spare time, I said that Elizabeth will have at least one confessional complaining about her. Try members not working. I said that I guess I said she'd make the family visit because I said, she'll be hysterical mess when her husband visits he'll be surprisingly stoic because he doesn't like the show. And I said at one point she'll throw her hat down in anger or ecstasy. Like a gold rush prospector. And then what we also did was we each would be the person's worst enemy and closest ally. I can only assume Leon it. The worst enemy was Jeremy your Elizabeth had their her closest ally being coral and her worst enemy being devilish Davies. Okay. Yeah. I had I had worst enemy is Jeremy I'd closest allies Larisa. So I was to my right on that one. Yeah. Absolutely. That's actually might be one of you were accurate predictions. So I'll leave the decision up to Ms McKenna, who do you think the more accurate prediction, definitely the robot? I think she is kind of a clam person. Nobody thinks that that that. I think you're right. If you swapped in Carl for Jeremy, that's basically perfectly accurate, although I do love your hat specifics. Mike Joe points for that. Although I don't. I I think also like. That really her. It must be right because people are too tired, and like out of it to put on too, much persona. But I was like Billy cheese turning it up a little bit. Maybe she's not like what you mean when she was on the show like, yes. The hamming it up to the cameras or something. Yeah. I think he would if I were on survivor. I think I would know especially now I feel like every so many people who are on it have watched. And so they kind of know like, okay care these types of characters do well. And that like cowboy. You know, hard-working solves the earth is an archetype of the show. So it felt like she knew what she is doing a little bit. I think, but that might also I think that that's her for sure I just wonder if there's like a little bit turned up of like, well, I know I'll keep this cowboy hat on. And that way because I think you know, when you're out there, you're starving, and your you can't sleep. And I think it kind of does that naturally. Leah urine. Be she's moving around doing it on purpose. But you just like you become your raw self out there and everything seems heightened so I think probably most likely the case. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess to refer to that. It's it's more like it is her, but it's like a very amplified ver-. Exactly. Yeah. Basically holding a megaphone up to your soul. Now, we're like you won't they won't typically act like this in real life. But it's like it's like a more exaggerated version of like who they are as per. Exactly. Yeah. I saw still thinking about the gold rush like year. She could have done that you're talking about when she was exalting about the squirrel hunting with the slingshot. She could why did she throw her head on the air? Come on. Yeah. We had we had one tenth of this cast owns cowboy hats, and we have yet to see that. So hopefully, Carl will come through. Maybe he was just writing for Elizabeth to go. So he could hog all the cowboy hat attention. Maybe that's the secret reason why he dislikes her. Yeah. Cowboy hat envy like there can only be one. There's only one room archetype here. Exactly. Well, just before we move further and tro, usual stuff, did you have any any stuff? You wanted to discuss particularly top of mind about the episode. Whether it's about the season survivor in general, no thought. I was impressed with Alec saving Christian. This this episode whether or not he like that was that big of a move or not, you know, it's hard to tell me at it. I thought like when he switched in when he flipped crew. Did he flip on what's her name again Natalia? Yeah. When he's gonna tell you I was like that was very dumb. And so I was like maybe this guy is not a good player. And maybe he isn't. I think like still up in the air on on Alec. But the fact that he's already looking now on how to vote not just Goliath but knew you should go with Goliath for while. I was like, okay. Okay. There's some there's some stuff there that I was like more impressed with and then. Yeah. Just enjoying is such. She's good TV. But I'm also like, oh, man. How long can you ask? And also, I feel like you should drop everything when someone's on their their walkout of tribal. The fact that she said you weird way of showing it is just like I don't care for that. Like that. You know, you're. It's like super emotion. I know that tribals also weighed longer than what we see. But it was just sort of like. Yeah. I don't care for that. Elizabeth was super emotional and was like clawing and fighting for her spot as she should like Gabby said, even though Gaby girl hold it together. Please. Oh, no. She's it's been dropped multiple times. This is like a broken vase scotch tape together that should just keeps dropping every single. She's holding onto. No, it's so crushing. She's also like killing it in challenges. She's really good. I'm like Gabby. I wish you could see yourself how ICU Gabby and how Christian sees you like, you're you're fine. I mean, when she was in that I forget all the smaller tribe names when she was in that tribe. She's certainly would have been voted out before Christians. I understand why she was nervous. But you gotta just go cry by yourself in this game. You know, like, and then crying Elizabeth's be have to vote for her. Yeah. I I'm I'm really curious by by Gabby. But yeah, I'm loving this season. And I don't know if it's just like if it's actually amazing. I think it's like chew soon to tell. But it's off to such a better start than go silent. I'm just I'm just so can at all up. My my favorite part about Gabby and crying was her like emotional or the super dramatic like I when she wipes the tears away. So good. It's like flinging them up this fast. Like, maybe we won't notice which even a triple counseling we saw. But of angry games we had like build the Lewis black taking over from the Phyllis Smith Bedwar. She's like when know enjoyed is like all they're doing is. Because they're on the bottom. And of course, why would we not do that? I agree. Yeah. I love. No. I'm with you. I loved it. And I think I think she has the like like we said before she has like the ingredients for a good player just like blast season had like being greediest rugged season. So I'm kind of like hoping she can like butterfly out of this cocoon a little bit. Because when she was like, we should really lip on Angelina people get them to. I was like, yes. Yes. Gabbay? But I also think maybe that move is to moves away. You know? So. Yeah. And then to the seasons of art Christian. I thought he was going to be just like a one dimensional. I couldn't believe they had like put this poor person to be like made fun of. And he is one. He's amazing. I love him. I love him so much to episodes ago, and he talked about like working on himself to be better at making friends. I like almost cry. She's she's such an invigorating character. And I feel like productions having so much fun with them as well. You saw it in the first episode at the time last we get it this episode as well, we're mid confessional. He knocks over a piece of wood in the middle of his flagrant hand moving. And you would think that like usually that's like on the cutting room floor like take two of a confessional. But they kept in the prolonged experience of him prompting the would back pounding it into the sand. And then just continuing on. I I liked it. I liked that thirty seven seasons. And even though you talked about how sort of self right, parental last season was this is in the leading the strings of been more. Maybe that was unintentionally spurred by the fact that we saw pats medevac when during a time and cameras are usually off. But I don't know I'm liking to see I like to see how the sausage gets made before it gets sliced up and fed to John Morris. And get those macro 's. Get those Machias. Oh my gosh. Clearly, there should have been something hidden at that feast. Right. Oh, yeah. So so I would love to talk about that. 'cause we I tweeted about this. I think it's been a big question. I think the leading theory at this point. And this was expertly spotted and tweeted by the great DJ Lebel Kline. So the picture on the little placard, right? Had this nice vista of this cliff and a bird in a tree in these like lovely sonoma's colors of. But if you look at a scene leader on a shot later on in the episode is in the foreground, and in the background is a poem tree bent looking exactly the same way as the tree in that picture was a chance that there's something hidden under that tree though. I totally agree. I was flummoxed as you at the time when I'm like, okay. Gabby didn't find anything does. This mean that there's something there that we're going to finally in on doesn't mean that we're just showing that Gabby still paranoid. Like she was back in. So too. It seems like at least my hope is that this is going to come up sometime in the future much like a year ago during a triple h when the clue there was the the advantage no in the bundle of nails with the new camp. And we saw that in the merge episode. But it didn't actually come out. So this is hopefully checkoffs Placker. I assume because we did hold on it long enough. And I and I felt like this episode. The narration was turning us away from like, oh Gabby paranoia. Even though that was her justification. I feel like we were starting to get set up. My prediction is Zack Gabby will last longer because I feel like the edit is trying to like show us that she is more than just like a crying sidekick to Christian. So I was like, okay. I feel like we're definitely this definitely is something that we just missed right now. I don't think they would have held on it as long, but yeah, I think I think that this this season and this episode in particular had a lot of foreshadowing, and so I think that the idol clue. Just one, but they're just Angelenos foreshadowing. I mean, her whole story was insane. Like, she starts at the very beginning saying in military warfare. You don't tell your allies when we're you're gonna strike right goes. And then tells you know, Elizabeth that they're gonna vote or out also when she's complaining about Alex. She says seemed like a careless and emotional move. And she emotionally tells Elizabeth later like there was so much about it. And then also I caught this on my rewatch super subtle. But so Christian when he's talking about the Alec alliance that Alec is putting together and he calls it for strangling. Yes. Exactly. I call it a strike force. Then later Alec is talking to Allison about Inge Alina lot of aims and Haluk says Angelina keeps talking about no, you're strikeforce. No, you're strikeforce like, well, if I got I don't know like what is causing what? But like super exciting. So I don't know if like you take her out, and so, you know, like strike for is like that would be. Cool. It's going to be reading too much into it. But I know this stuff goes together. I think you're right. I caught that too. And I think in the like ridiculous, but like sort of helped whole naming trend that that is started. I'm like May-. Yeah. Maybe this is just like a an edit like where we missed the part where they like someone names them, strike course, you know, given and that might even be like a little coated like jab at Angelina an I think that that's six that combo six. I'm see I really hope that works out. I think that's like a fun dynamic alliance. Yeah. Yeah. Seemingly little little random. I guess because we knew the David side of things, right? Mean you the sort of weird love triangle of strategy. That's going on with Gabby, Nick and Christian. I'm surprised that a Nick decided to work with Gabby considering operation throat. Gabby under the bus that happened after the Jessica vote. But yet the the unlike Alison, Mike connected. Maybe it's because we didn't see that much on Goliath proper outside of the Jeremy and Natalie of it all that we really knew what all the other sub connections that were going on. But that was sort of a weird triad that came together. But yeah, you'd have to assume especially now that, you know, once the David start going and might actually become not completely dissimilar from ghost island where they're like. Okay. Let's get rid of all the Melillo people. And then we'll keep Jonathan and Lorraine because they're working with us. I could see something where like, then the strikeforce will truly sort of dismantle the Goliath. Yeah. From within the I I love the fact that that Angelina miss military could be taken out by some strike. Exactly, I think that I think I can see how else and Mike would gravitate towards each other. I think they seem the most similar on the Goliath tribe to me there's a lot of like. Jacked up, bro. He energy in in the glass that I could feel how Mike and Alison would be drawn to each other. And then I think Alec has really again, this is like is Alica. Very good player episode for me, I think like very smartly positioning himself as a swing between like hot hung side of Goliath, and like intellectual side of Goliath. So I think like him being able to play both like I'm friends with the Brose. And also, I'm friends with like the screenwriter and the doctor is like pretty smart positioning on his part or it's just completely random, and I'm like wrong that allergies like trying to read more into it than there. This episode. I thought and so I was like, okay. Okay. 'cause that Natalia flip. I thought was like a little carpet for the horse. So I was like this guy that was like cart before the horse. You just put a couple of planks of wood inference build a card face completely illogical. And I totally agree that I did a complete one eighty like knows diagnose turn of the surfboard when Alec was able to not only put to go to this alliance. But like he acknowledged the fact he's like I am playing a lot of people right now. And I realized that I shouldn't be showing my cards right now. I think it is understated. How good is socially. He is. Because I think we're sort of or overshadowed by the big dumb moves. He was making the obvious twenty days. But this this could be a turn for Alec, right? When he needs it the most. Yeah, I think so. And I think yeah, I think that six is super exciting. I would root for that six big time. So the Mike white also said during this episode, I need a soil taste stat stat. Is used by doctors, obviously him an Allison. Who's a doctor must be best friends. Totally is. I like those flat with with mayor of lamb down. It was the funniest right? Was Nick him or Dan. You need to be so thankful everyday that Mike white is there. I like this idea though, that like the we should be detecting things like the mole style. We're like, oh there was this big alliance. The entire time making coded references. And we didn't realize it. But I like that this this is like they're playing they seem to be playing both sides of. Okay, it's dumb to break up the Goliath numbers right now. This is too early. But also I wanna play who I wanna play with which is what last season was missing so desperately. And so I think like I this was a very was such a broccoli cheddar. Not that not that like atypical, but immensely satisfying like, Yep. Yep. Okay. Great. On the right track. I did take a BuzzFeed quiz. What type of super you? I got clam chowder. I didn't know how to do it. What type of soup with the survivor episode? They didn't have that quiz. But not yet. Plus feeds a community. So somebody take it take it on your shoulders by that quiz half. Mike clam chowder. She's her eyes at Elizabeth was a clam person who own my God is this like a stent thing more. We're getting connections. Now that honest so connects to the they're in the lines together got you guys. And I have a cat named clam. You're a clam person. The most of us know. Oh, man. Okay. Well, actually, speaking of predicting things entered bureau, what type of soup you are. So I have prepared a game that I would like us to play. It's we call it Shambo. And it's our version of the game mash so mansion apartment shack house where essentially you like predict what happens in your life. But we're going to do predict what would happen if the two of you were to play survivor, right? So jambo stands for I still haven't figured it out. But something along the liquor third time's up for for us through full three hundred sixty five days. I still have yet to figure out the like shelter hidden immunity idol like alliance merge, be Babu. Bob, Crowley, and then ocean. I don't know. Anyway. Okay. So the way this is gonna work is we'll we'll start with Mike with you. And then Jessica will play out your game. So I have a different categories. So I'm just gonna have you list four of different items. And then we'll we'll play the game. We'll see how it goes. So the first thing I'm going to need from you. Mike are four movie titles. Okay. Let's go with snow dogs. Okay. Let's go with the bridges of Madison County. Okay. Let's go with the patriot. Okay. And howls moving castle. I love that movie. All right. Four toys that you had as a kid. Ooh, Nickelodeon Gak. Okay. Let's see. GI Joe did you actually have a GI Joe as a kid? No. Did you have toys, Mike? Is there something that you need to? I mean, I guess I could if I didn't wanna say most of my toys were like markers, but didn't want to say marker that would sound marker is one of. Telecomms some sort of like weirdly, like, I don't know. I was like I I lived in a closet and just drew with markers all day thinking about the world sheltered from society. At least you weren't the sniffing them. That's a step up. Well, I mean. Centene markers a reason behind them. They just might not have been that safer children at the time. I will say. No, I'm thinking sponge. Really one of your choices a child. Every time. I think to the glory would be so terrible for you. It's such a struggle. Okay. How no this is should this better than therapy. I should be paying usually. It's what I'm here for. Okay. How about four breakfast foods? Now, Mike have you had wreck focused before this is a I mean marker. I put down the gen. Just took a big of a market if I miss the breakfast one day. Oh, yeah. Let's go with some nice eggos. Okay. Let's go with some scrapple. Scrapple? Yes. Like, it's a weird. Like, I think it's a landmark region type of thing. It's like an on mishmash of meets in one square, Patty. It's very odd thing. But I eat it a lot in college because there were no other better options. Let's go with a nice omelet. Let's go with some kick cereal. Okay. Lastly four objects that start with 'em. Markers? Let's see I have a better chance of markers making my way into my survivor game. Let's go with mattress. Okay. Let's go with make up. And let's go with masquerade mask. Okay. All right. So mike. We are going to find out if you are on this season. What would be Knicks nickname for your alliance? Why are you being targeted by Angelina? Why you got into a fight or what food you got into a fight with Lisa about for improper storage, and your Natalie napalm, esque nickname, and then you have a four potential fates in the game you either get medevac before the first tribal after writing back to camp on a tux. You may jury but announced your relationship with Kara on Instagram and God banned from the finale. You got an underdog edit from a David to Goliath, but you were out in the fire making challenges, the rob g dot ally. You were voted out preacher by Angelina. Okay. Okay. So the way this is gonna work is I'm going to start drawing a spiral. And then you just tell me when to stop. And then this is all very technical. Details of something serious. We'll figure out your game and survivors. So are you using a marker to do this? I should I will I have one right here. Okay. Are you? Okay. With a purple sharpie. That's not my favorite. But you know, what? I'll it will suffice. All right. All right here, we go. All right. Tell me when to stop. Stop. Okay. Give me a moment. And I will figure out your feet and the game. No problem. What we're doing that? Just I have a question for you. I know that we actually talked about this before we got on air. I know you mentioned Mary Holland before. I know you had Beth appel on your podcast once upon a time to talk about survivor is this just like a show that randomly pops up in the comedy community at least within your circles because I've experienced this in my life as well just within like acquaintances where when people here, I'm covering survivor there like oh my God. I've been watching that show forever that just happened. You know, is there something about the show that you feel naturally draws people in this community together. Yeah. I think you know, I think that the that reality is a big guilty pleasure for a lot of people and survivor doesn't feel guilty. You know, because it's like this is to put myself on a pedestal. It feels like the thinking person's reality because it's strategy. And it's game. It's not like. As it's not as. Appeal is not as much like watching people be a behaved poorly. Which is I think what a lot of reality TV is. It's a little bit more like watching people like overcome something and day, something cool. And I yeah, I feel like it possible. Lot people are people are into it. Also, there's like. I've done to ask cats which are like a this flagship improv show at UC be that prices since brigade and we've had Zeke men Hannah do monologues before. So I think there's also just like crossover multiple ways. I subbed a class where student was like, hey, I do these like survivor events in like, I know you like survivor is this guy does like amateur survivor weakens, which I. Know about until he was like, yeah, we did like ten challenges day and all I had was an apple and. And Sandra was there. I was like oh my gosh. So I even though I consider myself a pretty big survivor fan. I also know that they're like incredible depths to this fan. And I just think it's like I never feel guilty about watching survivor. You know, it feels like the salad of reality. Tv. I don't it doesn't like hurt my stomach. I don't regret it. I don't think. Oh, why did I waste my time? Doing that. I'm like, yeah. This is great. This is a great. Oh my gosh. I need you to come to my next family gathering when I tell my because I tell you it like, yeah. So yeah. And I'm plus don't still podcasting about survivor like reality TV, but like. Guys. It's like the salad of reality. TV is. Okay. All right. So Mike I have determined how you would fair if you were to play in this season of survivor, you ready to hear it. Oh, yeah. Okay. You have teamed up with Nick, and you call your alliance the snow dogs. Absolutely. I feel like that's only appropriate in that Cuba Gooding junior is whipping us both along to I it would have been funnier the the the bridges of Madison County, but yeah, that would that would imply a lot the young Mr. Wilson blue eyes them, I say, okay. So also you were targeted by Angelina because she wanted your sponge. You got into a fight with Lisa about improperly stored scrapple. You also your nickname was mattress. Mike. Ooh, that's Madison County with them. Now. Home natalie. Yes. And unfortunately, you were voted out pre jury, but you refuse to give up your sponge to Angelina damn, right? That's my sponge, I need to play with it. Right. And then you were holding it in your final confessional. I don't I don't give him my sponge because I didn't want to exactly why should I? All right. Okay. Well, so, unfortunately, you're voted up retiree. Let's see just if you can do any better. So we're going to do a similar thing. But I've different categories for you. So all right. We will start I need four band names. Okay. We FOX's okay. Blink one eighty two. Ooh. Flogging. Molly. And the new pornographers, okay? Four professions. Dentist chauffeur? In furniture maker a. I'm a statistician. Okay. And then four former survivor players, okay. Cochran. Okay. Joe? Tie. And. Laurel redemption? Mention island. Okay. And finally, four emojis. Okay. Heart is okay. Okay. Sunglasses. The like e you know, the like gritted teeth all the way across okay. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. And. Money is. Okay. Yeah. That's one right. Yeah. Okay. All right. So we are going to find out Knicks nickname for your alliance. Great what your position would be in slammed town. Your nemesis in the season because Pat was medically evacuated. And in this fake version, a former player comes back to play in place. And also you had your big break on this season of survivor, and so Mike white is actually going to cast you for emoji movie too. So we're going to find out what character you're gonna play. Finally, your fate in the game so blindsided by your nemesis winner of the season misplayed, the idol nullify or because I still don't really understand how you're even supposed to play that thing correctly. But went home next week and beloved fan favorite. But did not make the jury. So went out preaching great. Okay. So I'm going to do this viral thing again, I will use a pen not a marker. So just tell me when to tell me when to stop. Perfect. All right. Give me a minute. All right. So while she's doing that. I would love to you. You brought up the mayor of slam town before if we're talking about, you know, exaggerated personalities, I think that you would think on paper he's one to do that just because that's sort of his career whatever your thoughts been about John this season. I, you know, gosh, you find yourself doing this. Where like you would watch the show, but you also know watch the show enough where you are watching for the edit. Yes. Screw you guys. You that big time. So I think is like I don't I don't really let myself get attached. Or have opinions about people who we barely see because I'm like, well, they're not important, which you know, I think he's like he's had fun moments broach watchos and all that. But he's really ultimately like kinda light in the edit. He certainly lighter compared to Dan. And I don't see them. I don't see. I don't foresee any like giant moves coming from him. So I don't know. I feel like probably, you know, the someone they're going to start flushing Dan's idols out. But I feel like maybe John will be a little earlier to go. So I feel like I haven't really paid much mind because he's a little like lighter. I think he's like fun in fine. I don't really have. It's crazy to have a medium opinion of someone who declared themselves the mayor of slam town. But. But I'm a little bit in that boat where I'm like, well, I mean, he certainly in the it. He's not not in it. You know, but like who are poor Carlin Davey who are just so so like, and and really Allison has been pretty light too. So I don't know. He's I think he's pretty fun casting. He's more interesting than than some like. Beefy beefy, boys. We've had before. And I really liked his treatment of Christian. So I think that that that sort of belies like a sweetness in the mayor's heart. Yeah. I think that he he honestly might be one of the most like Ernest people honestly can't think of like a duplicitous move. He's made so far which is crazy because again, like he's in a career that's based on heels, and like his role is go down to Mexico, and I'm this big villainous American. It's crates. Maybe he purposely left that behind on the island. But he seems like such I don't know seems like such a teddy bear. Yeah. Almost to see that different side of him. Maybe it's just because we were expecting something to see something. So different really impressed me though. I do agree. I think when it comes to like a personality perspective, he's had fun moments. But also part of that might be voices when they first broke into those three tribes. He's like, I don't do well in small social situation. Sweet. I mean. Yeah, I think he's I think he doesn't like strike me as particularly strong player. But. But but I don't think like, I certainly like have liked what I've seen of him as as a person even though I think Dan is like needs to chill out a little bit. Just tell yourself here. Awesome. Just keep telling you over your and like, I was like oh boy. Them walking away from the beach when Angelenos like take let's take out Christian being like this breaks, my heart. It's like this is pretty sweet, honestly as dorky as the broach. Rod show is they're they're like honest love for Christian makes me really like them. And it's like, it makes me like John More the Dan because Dan in has been, you know, the the way he likes stormed the just his he's a little hot-headed. Like super Pissy like when he found out that his name came up. Like, Elizabeth was throwing his out there is like throwing this hissy fit and cars, just like this is how the game is played just so you have to idols you're definitely going to show her. Yeah. It's like getting mad that their name is tossed out at all. And just like well. What do you think you're really? Oh, okay. Well, Dan is at least based on. This prediction not involved in your game. However when you played. Nick. Your alliance. Name is the new pornographers. So I'm such a percent. Sure conversation occurred to get that nickname. Now. I know he's you know, the Rockstars and the thorough blood Brad's or sort of like the Matic. So again. You know, the easier imagination we most love Meco case. I'm sure that's what it is. Yeah. Okay. So then you are going to be the chauffeur John Hennigan calls you the chauffeur of slam town at right? Yes. Because Pat was medevac tie came in to take his place. My sis. We feel see is gonna hey. I love chickens, and I'm not one hundred percent, sure. Which one of us the David and which ones the Goliath and the situation the Goliath. Oh my gosh. That guy is fighting player. And then let's see a Mike white is gonna cast you as the gritted teeth emoji for movie too. So I think I think there's a lot to learn about this character. Like why why is there so gritted? So we could we could uncover that. And then for your fate in the game, you misplayed the I don't know the fire. Unfortunately, went home the next week. No once you played in this play, the I dunno fired you made that gritted teeth face, and that inspired money. NC it. Visualized you as an emoji. Now, it all it's all connected. All right. Well, congratulations. Both of you. I guess thank you. Yeah. I mean, it's just an honor to play the game. That's right absolutely competitive sponge as well. I really really. Markers came out. But he may I have your sponge. Hey, Mike, Mike your son's lease. It's just it's so it's so dry out here. And right now, I just run naturally dry. So I need to have a sponge. My gosh. Memeber? So. Well, so I wanna move on and talk a bit about what we spoke a bit about all these characters. But one of the things that I've really loved about this merge episode in particular are that so many people's names came up particularly much much, Dan, chagrin. But I feel like this is the most Representative we've had an awhile of like hell the merge actually works where there are thirteen people. I'm assuming thirteen Factoria Christian. There are so many names being thrown out there. But we got Elizabeth name out throwing out there. We've got Alex for little bit. We had Angelina we had Christian. We had Dan Elizabeth left. But what I would love to sort of prognosticate with you too. Is of the four other people who were on the chopping block at some point this episode between Alec Angelina Christian, and Dan, let's see if we can rank the four of them based on what we think they're longevity. So number one would be who's we think is going to go the farthest of the four down to number four. We think is pretty much in hot water immediately. Liana? What what are you thinking between this motley quarter? All right. Well, I think I'm going to start with the one that stands out to be the most. And that's Dan because he's got to idols. Now, he could do something stupid with them. But I think that since he has to idols he'll be pretty safe for a while. Also, the fact that he was being targeted by Elizabeth who is now gone. So you know, that threat is removed. So I really feel like, Dan, probably what was those order one is the the steam the longest one. Yeah. Exactly. I give Dan number one. No. That was bad. I take that back. I don't want that sound clip being pulled. Dan, was oh my God damn was so annoying on this episode. I was just Ari really. I'm getting riled up. Emotionally. Like, Dan was just like sit don't walk away from this podcast, please. I'm just on my God. What some of this? I gotta pull myself up. Hold on. I'll be back all day baby all day. We'll just just you agree with Leon is can we can we cumulatively slot in Dan number one here in terms of longevity? No, I mean, the two idols for sure, but I feel like as soon as they start to turn on guys. They're going to pick off his first one really quickly that second one will be more troublesome. But I think they'll flush that first one early and as he feels that he is if he catches wind of not being in the six he may use it to save his show Mance or his his bromance. Showman's? So I don't know. I think everyone's going to be gunning for him. But also, I think he's beatable in final in the final three. So turn wine. Yeah. Like, I don't think he'll win, you know. And I think I think Christian might be destined for the four spot. Yeah. Because he's too. He's too likable. He's very, Dave. David. He is David David. You know, and yeah, he's the David David. And he's the goliaths David. So I don't know. I yeah. Any Dan has really good odds? But I feel like they've made us fall in love with Christian for a reason. So, but I'll I'll can see Dan number one. I think I think Angelina. All right. I just I really think he Angelenos days are numbered in terms. Has number four like chiseled into her forehead at this point in terms of this rank? Yeah, I think so all right Angelinos for them because they make it like criminal might be. Then the next one. But I think the strikeforce will protective at least a little bit whereas Angelina just feels like dead woman walking. And I think that this is not a point where because I have since going around and like oh Angelina between jacket gate end this absolutely cannot win the game. And that may be true. But I don't think anyone sort of has a sense at this point when they're twelve people left of who they want to sit next to in the final three, and you'd have to feel like, you know, in theory, you would want to take her to the end. But like, I think it's just too early to decide that you want her to sit next to you. And it's also a long game ahead of you. And she's not necessarily ago. She's a very active goat in that. She's like, I'm the one making the move. So it's that she can't win jury votes. But also she's trying to make moves even though she can't necessarily get the jury votes from those movies, she's off climbing those mountains. That grass very active goat very active goat when my husband has rejoined survivor even later than I have and he he came back in. And he was like, oh my gosh. Just to get to give you a snapshot of how out of touch on the game. He is. He was like, well, wait why more people like Ken? He was so good at fishing. I was like oh my God. Morgan, it's more. You would have been one of us forget and heels versus like, you don't understand how the game has changed in of all no, one cares about fishing. He's like oh always liked that part of the game. I was like Morgan. It's a new dawn new game. God. That's okay. We might have to contact your husband. So we do this other game sometimes called Casuals corner. Where I go to the survivor Facebook page, and I pull comments so I actually had somebody sent me a couple of this week. And they're just like that. I mean, it's they're so great. So this was Stevenson me. This the quote was Ashley reminds me of selene Dion. Who's adage that has so many who is actually what maybe it's Alison Salim Dion. I e that that I think I could see it too. So anyway, just to give you an idea. So yeah, I might might tap on that resource. I mean, I I did hear faint strings of my heart will go on it. She reigned approach to hug him after winning immunity. That's why he could kill. I would say that so evangelism before and Dan's number one. I put Alec number two. Now, there is a chance that if strikeforce gets outed Alec will be promptly on the chopping block because he's the one who congregated everybody, but I really do feel like his bonds with everyone is severely understated so much though that I I think it's gonna be a while before he gets caught. I don't know if he's going to win necessarily. But I feel like nobody is looking at him at this point. And that's essentially what you want to be in a position of. Yeah. He's yeah. You know? Well, you guys have already I've already spoken on high feel about Alec in this episode where there's like the glimmer of he I mean, if he can turn on people in a way where they're like damn good move and not like FU he would be dominant. You know, like if he can make those flips where he doesn't hurt too many feelings of and he can articulate that. Well in the jury, I mean, I think he could really be. A big threat. And it's interesting you bring that up because I was thinking about, you know, Talia him flipping on Italian and really Angelina. It was the only one who seemed to be upset about it. Like, we didn't really get to hear navy other goal is to me. Like, man. I can't believe he did that. So I don't know if that's because they didn't like Natalia. And so they were okay with that. Or you know, he was able to do it in such a way that didn't really rub people the wrong way. Now, you know, how does Natale you feel? I don't know. But it doesn't matter. She's not on the jury. And I think I think also because he was the first one to get rid of Goliath number where they still had numbers. And then I think that's why you know, Mike had to vote had to make that layer so vote he couldn't be responsible for two. Two blows to the numbers. But I think because Alec was I it was certainly like a little crack, but it didn't hurt their overall play. So I think it's a really really forgivable move. But especially if he could explain it now, I think the explanation is she was Boston. I didn't like it. So I think that's not great. And he should not say that. But, but yeah, I I don't know. I don't think anyone's gunning for Alex. So he might he might actually be the two spot with Chris number three. But Angelina definitely number four. I like it. I like it because we got the bread work down the sandwich, the fix instinct to sort of be arranged. Yeah. Well, we can we'll we'll we'll we'll put it like a little toothpick in that for right now. She's taking in that club sandwich and not the toothpick Davey had sticking out of his mouth, the only impact debut had on this episode was the piece of what he was chewing on garnering a lot of comparisons to Wendell. Can you eat scrap apple on a sandwich? I don't recommend anyone eats scrapple period. But I suppose you can in any sort of form, I'm intrigued by this odd mishmash of meat. Gonna play. This would be. I know. That's very me. All right. Sorry. I got distracted. I'm back on track. All right. Well, let's move on to our next game here. So this is something that we brought over actually from when Leon and I did our big brother BNB over the summer. Jess you are someone who week in week out comes up with lyrics on the fly for a myriad of songs. And over the years. There have been survivor players who have put out their own songs either before or after their time on the show. So we're going to see if you were sense of lyricism general way with words is going to is to sink going to sync up here in this game to take on. Don't forget the lyrics called police. Forget the Leary and to how here's how it's going to work. I'm going to talk about a song from survivor player, and I'm going to read a set of Lear leaks in which were Tippett strategically blanked out. And I'll give you four choices as to what word fills in that. Blink. We'll go back and forth about this. This. And if you just correctly, you get a point if you don't you get nothing, and we'll see at the end of this. I have several songs to go through. So we'll see at the end of this who has the most survivor recall knowledge when it comes to their work. There was either inspired by or perhaps spurned from survive. It. Let's start with something pertinent. I don't know if you guys know this. But because John Hennigan is a wrestler. He has an entrance thing. And so John Heineken recorded a song a couple years ago. I wanna say called welcome to slam, of course. So Liana we'll start with you. So I'll read this question again, I'll blackout lyric. I'll give you four choices for to fill in there. And you have to guess you have to guess what John Hennigan wrote, basically since I'm assuming he wrote these lyrics, by the way, it wasn't selene. Dion co wrote the no it was not it was not ghost written by Jeon. Unfortunately in the booth, and I we'll say check out the welcome to slam video if you haven't yet, it's John Hennigan in the booth playing an accordion of oceanic and an upright bass, it's bananas meets the. Play all of them at the same time still. Now, he's he's he's been a big day in the recording studio just laying down all those tracks. But here we go. So this is some of Mr. Hennigan's lyrics. This is my world. It's my blank, you're all just here to entertain. Hey domain be lane. See plane de refrain. I like domain I feel like he would say something like that. You are on the money. This is my world. It's my domain. You're here to entertain were. You're all just here to enter a we are to entertain him. John realizes how wrestling works when he wrote this song. Be entertained. Well. Okay. You know, what he plays the accordion that's more than I can do so them. Maybe he just doesn't like the the past participle of it. All he doesn't like the passive voice. He's a good writer like that. Just let's move onto you. I'm what you're waiting for the way. I'm what you're waiting for the one to bring the war be. I'm what you're waiting for the American Lucia door. Well, see I'm what you're waiting for the one to shake your core. D I'm what you're waiting for the pain convenience store. Oh my gosh. Mike, the fact that three of these are from your brain is very impressive. I love them. All he what these are wild. One to one to bring the war American Lucia door one to shake your core and pain convenience store. Okay. Like I wanted to be Kane convenience store, so bad. But like, I don't think that that like matches with the mayor slam town. I know I think it's probably like the simplest. So I I think I'm gonna say shake your core. Unfortunately, the American Lucci. Yeah. I kinda thought that would be like he would come up with that later. Yeah. It's good. That's great. Good job. Mike. He was he was he was branding it to begin with the I too wish he'd call themselves the pain convenience store. Maybe unfortunately that was not on the stars. See the little collars. Good. All right. Let's move on here. So Liana John Finnegan ends. Welcome to slam town with just a symbol remark. Welcome to slam town of blank. Hey, welcome to slam town compadres be welcome to slam town animals. See welcome to slam town bitches de welcome to slam town broach os. Crab. Okay. Well, I mean, I wanted to be broach Agios because of the references and all that. But I don't think it is. I feel like he would say compadres. So I'm going to go with a no, unfortunately, very uncouth. John hannigan. Welcome to slam town business, which is like felt like bitches if not Roach odd shows, I was I was sad about it. Fitches and its license are contrast to John Hennigan, very proper this episode like hopefully, we can say what the the liars we fight it out in the end like good, gentlemen. And ladies he's very on the island. I don't know what's going on. Here is seeing some rude. Maybe that's the the slam town it's on their sign. Like, welcome to slam town bitches population one thousand. What I'm picturing? That's the slogan at a town. Welcome to slim down business. All right. Let's move on here from John Hennigan. Let's leave. The ring. Let's move on to another survivor alumni Baylor. Wilson is a country artists from survivor San Juan del source. She played with her mom. Missy a lot has been to do about her stall her songs sticky situation back in twenty four team. And actually last week. She came up with a new song praying for rain, which I feel like is very insensitive considering the season, they don't need more radio or so blue on you. But look, let's see if you guys the grout what Baylor's talking about in this song. So Jeff will start with you. You know, better, you know, better than this. There's no right side of the wrong guys plank. Hey, there's no, right. Song of the wrong. Guys, fight be there's no right side of the wrong guys bed. See there's no right side of the wrong. Guys, bite de there's no right side of the wrong guys. Head. Yikes girl. Whatever the lyric, are you? Okay. There's no right side of the wrong guys bed. That is correct. Yes. I guess it's a take on waking up on the wrong side of the bed. Yeah. Let's pretty clever. So I did look. Okay. So now, we're done with the John Hennigan song. I looked at the video. I haven't listened to the song yet. But I just wanna point out that he's shirtless in the recording studio playing or these instruments and he's wearing sunglasses. So I just thought that that was very important detail that everyone should know you sweat a lot when you play the accordion. It's really the work of workmen's is. Yeah. I mean, he's really going to town the drums. So. Yeah. You work up quite a sweat. It makes sense. It's just responsible recording. Yeah. Do you think at the reunion instead of instead of having the houseman they just have like the John Hennigan experience him on? I'll be. That'd be so great. All right Liana. Let's go to the chorus here praying for rail. This one has to blinks when you lay on the track. Don't blame the train when you play with blank don't curse the blank. Hey when you play with fire don't curse the flame. Be when you play with athletes don't curse the game. See when you play with arrows don't curse the aim de. When you play with pictures don't curse the frame. Oh, man. Okay. Well, I because all right. The first thing I thought of before even read the answers was fire. So I'm gonna go with fire and flame. Yes. That is very I don't know if this is intentional survivor take you lay on the track. And don't blame the train when you play with fire don't curse the foot. I also thought it could be rain. But like now that's our next song. Apparently, she was very insensitive about so I don't know. I kind of wish it was when you play with pictures don't curse. When you play with a ehre, don't blame crispy. Listen, I have so much fun with these. But I can never tell for good it there. There's no pain convenience store rotate. Comedian store. All right. Just we're going back to you here. When you blink at the sun. And a storm comes don't complain when you're praying praying for rain, hey, when you take a look up at the sun be when you stick your tongue out at sea. When you throw your hands up at the sun de when you shake your fist up at the sun. I just got the Simpsons old, man. Yells at cloud Joan girl yells at sun. That is so weird. A weird one. Gosh. Can you can I hear the whole thing again? Like, no, just the beginning prompt when you blank at the sun and storm comes don't complain when you're praying praying for rain. I guess shake your fist up at the sun. That is correct. You come on girl. Oh my God. The things we want to go like yell at the wind. I mean, that's what the David and glides could have done to deal with the storm. Right. Just yellow. Well, I don't know if John Morrison yelled at the storm like maybe it would go it'd be like. Yeah. You're not welcoming slammed down even though I set it. All right. Let's move on. Let's say on the country trail, though, a little bit dirt path with chase rice. Arguably one of the most successful musical alumni from survivor runner-up of survivor. Nicaragua turn this into a country superstar career, this is one of his first songs called ready set. Roll we all number starting with you here damn pretty girl. You went and done it, again, you've gone and turns your blank all the way up to ten a cuteness be smile. See short shorts de sexy you've gone and turns your blink all the way up to ten. You turn your sexy up to ten. Okay. Don't answer that question. Mike. Okay. I'm gonna go with smile. I'm sorry in quantifiable. Okay. Well, maybe I should listen to the song. And then I'll figure it out. Yeah. I mean spit complimentary of these young woman say she's gone and turned her sexy all the way up to ten and you're sangha, but eleven. That's really what you did. The sexiness is not cool the way to eleven for time soon. All right, Jeff, we're getting back to you here. Gordon? The chorus ready set. Let's roll ready sent let's ride get your blank on the step shimmy up inside he aches. Get your sixty smile on the step. Be get your legs for days on the step. What see get your little fine ass on the step. See get your cute white pumps on the set. If you like feminism just took a step back. Yeah. Didn't they don't step on the step? Then. Oh my gosh. And wriggle up inside shimmy up in sunny inside. Graphic? I mean, what the heck is he talking about? Gosh, I linked for days. No. It was a little fine ass. Sure. It makes sense considering these complementary how much her sexy has been turned out. Of course, you want to get your little, finance and my pickup truck. Oh is there a truck? Maybe a truck involved. I think so. Okay. Okay. So much. Is about like Bernie talking about burning down the town and like cruising through the night. Now, I guess I guess he's talking about a truck. He's not outwardly referencing it. Thanks. Sexy up to ten. I would like if you say he said, get your get your legs for days lags for days. All right. Leon ever going back though? Now I made a deal with blank he's gonna put in some overtime. We've got all night ready set. Let's Red Devil. Hey, I made a deal with the man on the mood. Be I made a deal with the man down south, which could be the devil. See I made a deal with the man with the clock. D I made a deal with the men in the car. Sorry. I'm still thinking about manuals at sun. So man. It's just it's all it's all conflicting together. Can you read the the the the intro lyric part? I again, I made a deal with blank he's gonna put in some overtime. We've got all night ready set. Let's write as much as I hate this. I think it's the man with the clock on the. The man on the moon. I'll my guy 'cause I was like, okay. All right. Well, my logic behind that answer was it's gonna be something stupid. So man with the clock and time. The first thing I thought of actually when writing that was the small song for the last five years. Yes. Shout out Jason Robert Brown. Just imagine like shapes rise begging his like little folksy Jewish accent unlimited time. Yeah. We're also talking with the man in the car that could have been another option as well. Are. Well, let's let's go super old school for this next one Mitchell Olson was a contestant from survivor the Australian outback and he was a bit of a song. Stor. He wrote a parody song to I will survive called back from the outback we consider this the very first one off in survivor existence. So here are a few lyrics from Mitchell Olson's owed to his time to the tune of was Gloria gainer, I think so let's go to you hear Jess I'd work. I worked out a crafty plan. And I thought I'd firmly. Locked my fate till some blank man sent my ass. Right back to the states or hey, tears till some bearded cooking man, send my ass right to the states plea till some gourmet Baker man sent my ass right to the states see till some smiling dimpled man semi ass right to the states de till some lie. Buying Texan man semi asks. Right to the states, Ryan Texan. I'm sorry. It was gourmet Baker come on which. Yeah. Mitchelson might provide it his own trick answer here. Because I believe he was referring to the one and only Keith was not a Baker. He did not make any pastries the Australia, so funny. Okay. Great lyric. Nice. Sam by. It was like, okay, we could talk you'll be talking about. 'cause there's only so many terms I could come up with for Keith the nuns garnered that many comparison. So I throw a couple of Kobe ones in there. Yeah. I was like that's one of the only things I remember about that season. I was like probably I guess. All right Liana going back to you. Lord knows. I tried. We doubled tied and with my allies jumping sides. We'll hey, I knew my blank. Hey. Well, hey, I knew my game head died. Be will. Hey, I knew my chances were denied see will. Hey, I knew my rice was fried de. Well, hey, I knew my mom would cry. Oh, that's a sad. Oh god. I don't know. I'll go beat. I'm sorry. It was see I would rice with fried. All right. All right. Definitely thought you wrote that one. But. Mitchelson? I very symbiotic. I have come for these nonsense declared. All right. Let's move on here. Back to you. Jess, I couldn't gather would like blank I couldn't blank. So the first one is going to be the name of somebody. The last lyrics are going to be something that rhymes with their name. So hey, I couldn't gather would like Colby. I couldn't eat rice. When it's moldy be. I couldn't gather would like Keith. I couldn't hold my lower teeth. See I couldn't gather would like, Jerry. I couldn't lift a bucket to carry d I couldn't gather would like Tina I couldn't help from being Meena. We begin. I couldn't gather with like Keith. I couldn't hold my lower teeth. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna go with Tina, Nina. I'm sorry was Keith I couldn't would like hold my lower teeth. That latter part is a reference to Maryland mad dog Hershey who had dentures that she took out periodically heights. Okay. Real real really get into the the the grains of the fried rice survivor. The Australian peck reference Slough. And does it. Yeah. We should get the survivor historians to play this stat. Mike, can you make that up? Oh, I'm Paulsen would as this no matter what what was let's jump to something modern here. Everyone's favorite from two seasons ago, Devon Pinto fences himself a bit of a musician. This is a song I found of him jamming with a couple of its friends called smile worthwhile. Now Liana lists with you. It's just I I had no idea that he wrote music. So the road music all use air quotes. I'm very excited. This is not a song. Here we go. I met this girl. I'm telling you a smile for all the world just one blank at a time. Hey, just one inch at a time. Be just one whip at a time. See just one step at a time d just one tooth at a time. Oh, no. Well, I don't know does she turn her sexy. Up to ten. Okay. I'll go a step. I'm sorry. It was just one two at a time because the smile. Okay. Well, I thought it was creepy though. So all right. Is it not creepy now that it's to know it is creepy too. So I thought it wouldn't be that. You never know. Maybe Devonshire maybe even has like a night. John Hennigan has a different identity when he's writing music, maybe Devon's like a secret creeper in his songs. Okay. I'll keep that in mind for the next question are just let's see if you could you could keep that in mind right to see whether or not this interest creepy. I never heard a voice so gentle. And sweet. Yeah. I never heard such blank coming from a woman's teeth. Hey, I say never heard such. I've never heard such beauty coming from a woman's teeth. Be I never heard such poetry coming from a woman's teeth. See I never heard such vibrations coming from a woman's teeth. D I never heard such symphonies coming from a woman's teeth. Oh, gosh. Poetry. I'm sorry. It was the creepiest answer vibrations. Definitely creepiest answer. Wow. I almost mold that answer. Because I was like well smile is the name of the Brian Wilson album and goodbye brations of. You're doing like the Mike in this insane in this insane topsy turvy leered game. These I like this that maybe this was a take on pet shop boy, but it's just all focused on teeth. God only knows what you'd be without t-. There's this homey, so many things it can fill. Dentist's office, boys. All right. Let's move on to this. Last one little luckily, littlest creepy. Little more lascivious Whitney Dunkin friend of RHA p who was on survivor, South Pacific was also a country singer. She wrote her own song for going onto the show called skinny dipping. Liana? Let's start with you dirt road in his old truck lined with blank down that old beach bent. Hey, dirt road in his old truck line with honeysuckle be dirt road in his old truck lined with magnolia see dirt road in his old truck line with hydrangea de dirt wrote in his old truck lined with Goldenrod. I like to imagine you like googling plants did just that. Oh, man. I dunno magnolias. Sorry was honeysuckle or. Yeah. Of course. Yup. Should shit on that one that she does love to suckle her Honey? So he was only appropriate. All right. Just mom onto you here. This is actually talking about the skinny dipping proper. Okay. Took off all our clothes through them in the bushes. Mud between our toes lake. Hey, mud between our toes. Playful pushes be mud between our toes bear white tushes, see mud between our toes. Love by the bushel de mud between our toes. Grassless nature's cushion there white Touche's yet. I think it's unnecessary through your clothes in the bushes, though. Right. I gotta go get them out of the bushes. Yeah. That's that's not integral to skinny dipping when you're carefree and in love because you know, it's good natures floor will serve. Well. I wouldn't know that either things. She even punctuates bear whites. Which is with the Lord after it. I guess just to sorta like forgive the more conservative audience for saying, I'm sorry. I talked about my bare white fish. Then. Well, congratulations. I think everyone sort of one here. But I believe you squeaked it out by a nose to. And I think you really want Mike. I had listen this some of the most when I have what these games are just writing nonsensical rhyming phrases. So I I truly enjoy this. And I hope you enjoyed playing it as much as I had Ryan. Yeah. That was really the the opposite of a pain convenience. It was lovely. Oh, man. Okay. Well, actually, okay. So so speaking of like music, I noticed that there were a lot of interesting music and sound effects. I feel like I'm this episode. Like, I don't know if you guys caught it. But at the very beginning when the merge is happening. There's it's like Irish jig song. I don't know if they got flogging Molly to come in and play the song. But I was really taken by the clanging during the challenge. And also how Jeff Probst was so enamored by the the clanging. He said Carl clanging Alec clanging Elizabeth now clanging so he couldn't get that claim which is apparently the dinner bell at tribal council sound out of my head. But it made me think we need more sound effects on survivor. So I think we got brainstorm some sound effects that we could use. And then pitch this to the producers for them to edit it. So for example, I liked the buoying that sound effects needs to be used. I just don't know how I think if like they do the blindfold challenge and somebody walks into something that they use the buoying. Yeah. Okay. Good. I'm trying to think of other ones because I feel like this. I don't know if it could be meaningful does it mean something? Like, it doesn't have to represent the dinner bell at tribal council, but just having more sound effects like the the whistle. Or what's the you know, what I'm talking about slot, Sylvia? Yes. Five whistle sound. I don't know where that can be used. But I think this is something that they could tap into. I feel like every time someone like we talked about the advantage at the feast every time someone like walks by an idol or an advantage. They should use that slide. Whistle. You know, this is where you should be looking or to the sad trombone. Like that should have played the whole time Kayla was sitting next to that advantage. Like just like every time we cut back to her. Yeah. Yeah. I think. Also, just like the Instagram of some of the super zooms. You know, we could get those involved that would really play. I think I would just every time we finish on Christian. Good. Yeah. Especially as I the. They're also if somebody is like. You know hiding in the bushes. And then they kinda like pop up into a conversation. You do the like doorbell sound effect like Inc. Pop back down the door slams like it's like eight you log in or also some just like a multi Cam live audience when they go to like be role of a snake in the grass, you could just have like a bunch of people laughing or like. Every dannon. Carson you have a live. I like. Oh, man or okay. Or the record scratched sound like somebody says something awkward, then you just play. Or or Jeff says this is not an idle earn. Yeah, they make that face or like. Yeah. When when Angelina or when Elizabeth turns and it's like, you know, guess what Angelina told me then Dan has that like face. He that's exactly what you play. I think it's perfect. I think you could put probably put farts in there at some point. Just at some point. That's why. Right. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know where but I'm sure we can work that in what are others just on that sound effects. Oh, the boom, boom ch-. I don't know what to call that like the snare drum. Yeah. Very John Hennigan half the rate at after somebody. So like the factory hills joke, you know. You know, when I can't remember his Danner, John who has like, yeah. I was gonna say that to do. Two. Should we should we put the Wilhelm scream in there somewhere? This every time Natalie was bossing somewhat around. Yeah. Because that's what that's what everyone was thinking. Yes. Oh, the jaw you can put it in your going to branch out a little bit. You feel like the jaws in there. Like, the psycho music. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. Edit re editing survivor later need survivor, Foley, not to be confused with Dan Foley. But someone needs to like put in these sound effects after the phone. Yes. This idea. Okay. All right. Yeah. Good job gang. I think we have some some good ideas. Mike's I suppose included. And mine was also. Bless your heart. Mike, you also came up with ideas, or let's move on to our final segment of each and every week on the BNB the question of the week last week question of the week nickname a survivor contestant. Mike white style up by referring to them with a new movie or TV show, I love when did with Christian and big bang theory. So we'll read out some answers at the listeners gave and then we'll see if any of us have some answers here. Jonathan Troyer said I would refer to Kris noble as of blue mountain state. Even though the character. He's most like dad castle is in the main character. Oh my God. I love a blue mountain state and Thad was hands down my favorite, and I couldn't take him serious or whatever the actor's name is. He like, I think he's in. He's in. Crap the hunger games movies, and I just couldn't take him seriously. Because all I could think about was that great answer. All right. We have a survivor swapped has quite a few Natalie. Cole would be called. God is a woman. Philip shepherd. Would it be Pink Panther Angelina would be frozen and Chelsea slash purple? Kelly would be hidden guest. What are okay? So I don't have young children. So I don't know the names of the characters from frozen, but the year not to have kids to know frozen. Just have to have love in your cultural juggernaut. Yeah. Ana Elsa Ola. Yeah. Okay. Elsa. Okay. All right. I think those are other names that you could call Angelina. Maybe that's a little disturbing to her as yes, Parker Schindler says a slap a hat on John Cochran, and you get linguini from ratatouille. Very very good, which I'm which I'm totally I mean, I have garnered that comparison as well. So I am more than happy for Cochran tonight to be sort of side by side here at the chef's station. It's linguini comparison. The like linguini meets, mclovin. That means that what you're referring. Mike, actually, I saw. Okay. So I saw a TV ad the other day it was four sling. And there was a guy who looked like you. And I tried to take a picture, but I didn't. And now, I'm telling you this story, and it doesn't matter. But was it was it was was it Paul Rusk because Paul Russ comparisons. Frequently. So I don't know if it was hey, I don't know. I'll try to find it was for sling. I remembered that okay? I'll try Alec right? I'm sling man base ring to it. All right here. We go dancing, then ski says Angelina as girls the Lena Dunham show, it wouldn't it be nice to call her girl. But I think the poor Pertile ization makes it okay? Yes. Well, as long as she doesn't turn her sexy up to ten I can't get over that lyric. I'm sorry. It's it's brilliant from Mr. rice, Mr. fried rice, John John says Natalie Cole should be compared to Medina from Tyler Perry. John John poor form here. John, john. History. Though. I mean, Tyler Perry. Also is connected to the survivor universe at Larson. Maybe it's not maybe if what if not only was the Tyler Perry character. That'd be a great reveal. It's all tied in written by Mike white collaborate elaborate project, but Tyler Perry and Mike white. And finally, actually speaking of my wife, Sean Kelly says Mike white is the human embodiment of droopy the dog since even when he shows excitement or emotion. He has this weird subdued attitude about him. That's a really good one. I like that one. Because I totally see it. Do you owe? He would also have the those let those sound effects behind him. Like do do do. Or like or like a tuba? Yeah. No, no, the the, okay, I sound effects. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you want to get into the booth with John Hennigan to know, your brand yet Cuba's more like. Yeah. That's better. All right. So do we have any ideas in terms of nicknames? We wanted to give survivor contestants. I had one for bass. I think could call him pineapple express. Oh, yeah. Very good. But that's a good one. I had one for Christian instead of big bang theory. I thought of him as Mark from rent in a different university. With the sweater to. Yeah. Totally work. You can imagine being like Penn in on Roger he's looking at an equation, which balances the terms of gravity. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. Absolutely. I think that Mike white would also just play on Cochran being Cochran and would call him something like a you have to admit he's pretty legit. You know, like a cocker Johnny Cochran s grime. Mom, and I think I think the else in this season. So far is private practice. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's not dominant enough for to be like ER, Grey's anatomy. So she has been a, but like pretty good. Oh, man. You could name all doctors on the lake 'cause there's so many medical dramas, right? Yeah. You could name like all doctors on the show. Your will mic from survivor Samoa actually, gave him the nickname mic dreamy because he's sort of resembled Patrick Dempsey. So yeah, there could be another podcast where you just take every doctor that's ever been on survivor and assign them nickname based on television character. All right. Oh pencil that down for next week. That'll be our something redo next week. If we have the time so the question of the week four next week, we talked about this with Dan. But if you were playing survivor, what pep talk would you try to give yourself during a child is it as grounded as your the man just keep doing this is more of a motivational speech? You know, everyone has sort of has a different motivators. So you all out there can let us know your answers in a myriad of ways. You can always tweeted at us using hashtag RHA P A B and B you can respond to the post on bright house, website dot com. You can post in rob has awesome. Patrons group. You can post it on Reddit. You could Email it to us our H AP BNB at gmaiLcom many resources to call together next week. We'll try to talk through your own motivational phrases with our guest leader Berle minute talking through the final twelve of survivor, David versus Goliath. Jess, thank you. So so much for coming on. This really was a lot of fun. I felt like I've just seen so much delicious soup over their hours and. It's I'm I'm full for even more. Thank you so much for having me. This was this was like a delicious tomato bisque with like a gourmet grilled cheese on the side on our rainy day where I didn't even have to pray for the rain. No, you don't shake your fist up at the selling. Never would. And I never would know. Thank you so much. This was really fun. So just if people want to check out off book, how can people a follow you and social media and find the lovely lovely stuff that you and Zakar putting out there every week. Thanks so much. Yeah. Off book listener every listen to podcasts, and I'm Jessore McKenna on Twitter ingest. Jess McCain on Instagram. Sorry. They're not the same. You guys. Just starry about it. And yeah off book, and then you can also check out visiting the just dot com, which is like Zach night we pre existed as a musical deal before the podcast, and it has like a link for live dates book live, which is a pretty fun way to like make friends. Listen to the podcast. I guess we have like we've had a pretty good contract record of people like bringing people who didn't know the podcast live shows. Yeah. I know you had one of my favorite podcasts. Travis McElroy on. Off book last week. So if you guys want to check out the back catalogue of off book, it's a super fun podcast, you're into this sort of random silliness, we put out there. I feel like off book is definitely in that territory. And you have so many fun guests onto just come up with a musical on the spot over the course of our about literally anything see Travis are laid step. So it was really fun. And there is a survivor podcast as you mentioned before with or there's survivor themed episode where it's obvious that Beth, and I love it and Zach has never seen it, and it might be behind the pay wall right now. But. By now. But it was that the Pels episode it's called like surviving hunger. Something lost games. I don't know. It was some sort of insane mash up, but Beth and I were like trying to drop in survivor specifics that Jack just could not pick up, but. Yeah. That's another good entry episode of Europe survivor fan dig real quick between human Zach who do you think would you better on like a blood versus water type season. Would you vote them out? Gosh god. Yeah. I definitely would because we would like, you know, be chill about like splitting the money and using it to like further our our own real lives. I mean, I think I would do better in the game because I know it better. And I think, but I think I think Zach would be good at the game. I mean, he, and I would have similar strengths. I think so I don't think I don't think it would one of us would outplay the other too much because I think we be using like a similar tool kit. But which is like, I don't think enough people prioritized just being nice around camp in that early part. It just seems so obvious. So he will come out to to intense. It's like, hey, if you're just kinda chill for a while the beginning, you'll last at least a couple of boats, just like try be good team player, you'll get like a little far, and then you turn it on. So, but I would definitely vote him out. And he would one hundred percent vote me out as well. We have our eyes on the prize. Yes. Lily, well, Liana how can people follow you on social media? And how excited are you? A by the recent announcement of the rue Paul's drag race all forecasts. Yes. Okay. So you can find me on social media. I'm at Liana Boris. I am beyond excited for rupaul drag race. So there is a holiday special that airs I think December seventh and then the Allstars four which cast just got dropped. Then airs the next week December fourteenth, and Mike you and I will be back with Brent to cover cover all of the Loveliness that will be coming at us in December in terms of repulsed drag race, and I can't wait. Oh my God. Did you realize that this is by the time twenty eighteen finishes? We'll have talked about like four separate installments of repulsed drag know. Oh, my gosh the universe. Just it. Give it give it. Yes. These episodes are like a biscuit, you'd better stop them up. You can always follow me at a Mike bloom topic and check out the exit press, I do every week for parade dot com. I got to talk with Elizabeth this week and true to her nature. She was a really fun interview. She was she owned up to her mistakes guy gave some really interesting opinions about her fellow castaways and gives her perspective. As to why she knew she was going to go ahead of time. Just wipe putting up that fight at tribal council. So be sure to check that out as well. As the weekly interviews. I do their came up with a couple of things otherwise in terms of writing. I finally got to write about my experience on the top chef junior set this past spring, which was so much fun. I got to be there for the big restaurant Wars Episode as well as talk with Curtis stone, Vanessa la- shea one of my favorite top. Contestants Tiffany dairy, and basically sort of a mall over the fact that instead of cooking gourmet meals on my childhood I grasp onto a sponge in a martyrdom. So that made me feel good about myself. So we should have checked that out. I also wrote for the Hollywood reporter about the most recent episode of short tricks that dropped on CBS all access that includes interviews with the the writer of the episode as well as the actor which I really enjoyed. So be sure to check that out if you're into that stuff that's going to do it for this week here on the orange AP BNB special. Thanks to Scott saint-pierre for editing. All this behind the scenes poll also send our head writer, and I'm assuming someone who got every question to that Mitchell Olson lyric part of the last game. Correct. From America for our theme song. You can always Email us games. 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This Week in Survivor: Survivor 38, Episode 12 with Liana Boraas

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This Week in Survivor: Survivor 38, Episode 12 with Liana Boraas

"Stock about. Take. So we can buy the smartest oriented. Why? Sarabhai? You've are. Yes. That's right. Where back for this week in survivor episode. Number twelve I'm rob sister, Nino here to cover everything going on here as we wrap out episode and number twelve for the week. And then we have the wiggle room on this weekend. Survivor, of course, here with us. The man who created the this week in survivor history quiz, the great Jordan Kayla's here. Jordan. How are you? Doing. Well, had it had a good week. I thought it was a pretty fun episode of survivor. So I'm hanging in there. Why what happened on your week? I'm no nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Really interesting. Okay. You made it sound like it was a really good week. Did I? Yeah. I thought it was downplaying the week. I I don't know. It was fine. It was I worked I've coached in lost baseball game. And it's about it. Okay. We had a fun fun viewing party with the pizza and beer lions in New York, which but that's a common occurrence. Okay. Well, maybe had such a good week because you were in anticipation for our guest on this week in survivor. She is the co owner of the ouray JP BNB, you could hear her on a bunch of different ra- happe- podcasts, the great Liana Boris Liana. How are you? I'm good sounds like Jordan really had a crazy week compared to me. My fire alarm the battery died so beeped at me for a while. It was the worst. Like, I don't under-. Here's what's the deal with fire alarms. No like, it just continues to be, but you can't turn it off. So now it's sitting on my desk off. On. So anyway, that was the that was the ordeal in my world this week. Okay. All right. Well, Leon please the practice fire safety. Okay. I'll plug it back and afterwards, I promise. Okay. Survivor is like a broken fire alarm, how cells constantly ream. Broken fire alarm. Great try to change my battery. Okay. Imagine CVS dot com came out with like reinfect alarms that just yelled duty. You wouldn't your house on fire? Represents life. But not not in this case. Listen, do the house is on fire. Get out get out to listen, bro. Yeah. All right, Liana Boris is here, and we're very excited to catch up a on. Of course, you can hear Liana this weekend on the RA GP BNB with special guest host the tabulates Kirk Clark. And my co host on Robin Akiva needed podcast to keep a Winokur. That's right. Yes. We talk about this episode. I know we're going to get into a little bit of it here. But, you know, don't worry unless we don't we don't talk about too much. Hopefully, there won't be too much overlap in less reading reviews of the Ron Clark story count as talking about this episode. I think we'll be okay that was my whole quiz this week. What what what am I gonna do? Okay. That's that's a this week in Ron Clark history. It'll be questions from the movie or well, we have had some great podcasts this past couple of days where we had Dominic and Kellyanne from ghost island on together with me on the recap. Then of course, the traditional Bryce Isaiah feedback show. We got into that on Friday afternoon, and that's up now on rod has a website dot com wiggle room. Still to come here on the episode twelve batch of podcasts, but Leon how are you feeling now after episode number twelve only a one more regular week in the finale left to go. Yeah. So it's interesting looking forward to the finale not like, I mean, maybe in a positive way. But just like thinking about it because what is gonna happen with the island of. Extinction. I just still don't know exactly win. The person is gonna come back. How exactly is this going to work? What is going to be the reaction to the person who comes back from the edge of extinction? How might that person fair? If they do make it to the end, I feel like there are so many unanswered questions. And we're really at this precipice before we get there of just utter confusion. It just seems like right now, this is sort of the bastard child of survivor, and I'm not quite sure exactly how it's going to play out. Also Veivers are Bestard's in their parents is. I think it's also going to be wild. When we get the massive edge of extinction exodus. Yes. Exactly. So with the baseball team that is the jury slash the island of extinction residents. So they now all get to go to Ponderosa does the island get abandoned to Seoul person comes back in. I think that we're going to get a scene where everybody doesn't get back into the game is going to like collect their stuff and Reema is going to have a torture like listen ship, your good friend here for thirty six days. But now, I'm gonna light you on fire. Listen, dude, you're on fire. You're on fire. Beep, beep beep. Evacuate island. Yeah. Dirty memorialize. I don't know a really cool a really cool challenge to return. What if it's like hand on a hard I, but they all have to hold onto the mast like just like the post where the mass design like they didn't raise the thing the whole time. And now they just can't take their hand off of it until somebody reenters the game. I don't know how you gonna do that with like eleven people. Those the stand around a circle get really close. I'm sure Riemann board will love being right next to each other. That's like one of those radio show contests where everybody has their hand on a car, and like the last person to be holding onto the car wins the car. That's exactly what it sounds like. That's fine. I mean, they have all the time in the world to do that. So they can start the challenge like a day before someone actually has to go back in. Yeah. A why the biggest problem I think is just the Jeff's not going to stand there for three days while somebody who's trying to get back in the game. Okay. Liana? So Ron Clark is you've been tracking the new Ron Clark a rule book all season long. What's your thoughts on the end of Ron Clark, pending not returning from the edge of extinction? Well, I think the first thing that stands out to me is the whole family. Visit thing that has happened where he uses earlier in the season. Let's just all make it to the family. Visit and then he makes it to the family visit and his promptly voted out. Everybody honored their deal to him. Yeah. Exactly to the family. Visit won't that be nice? We just get to the family. Visit. And then I won't I won't give you your visit with your loved ones. You can see them though, only Gavin Julie, I'm sure they remembered that they're like, okay. We just have to keep Ron until the family visit then we're allowed to vote him out deals here. This Ron line really made me laugh though. When he's talking about his facial hair. And he's asking Lloyd if he likes it at the end of this. You like it. Kid friend. Up friends. I have never loved Ron Clark more than that singular line. It was so good. He just these friends so enduring Theron in that moment, just. Yes. Everything else after that not so much. But like that is really really great. One of the great things to be out. Ron Clark was that. They were really like two different Ron Clark's where he was like super nice Ron Clark in the group setting of saying to everybody. I love comma, these these are my friends, and wouldn't it be nice? We'll all get to the loved ones. Visit. We can just relax and then the confessional. Ron Clark was super duper shady and like very like cutting in all of his confessional remarks. Yeah. For sure I don't know who the cutting confessional. Ron Clark is. But I feel like the happy. Go lucky. Ron Clark is giving me a little bit of like, Mr. Mackey from south park, salty, friends like that. Okay. That's sort of what I get from him. And then the cut-throat one I don't know what that is. That's a real wrong lurk. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know who the true Ron Clark is. But. Very fun to watch the two Ron Clark's which one shows up in the movie. Oh, that's a good question. I haven't actually watched it. Probably something I should do one thing that did come to light through the BNB is there's some milk chugging that happens to like motivates students or something. So I don't know which which Ron would have chugged the milk. But yeah, I'm not sure I'm not entirely. Sure is Lloyd in the movie. Okay. That was my question because Hello. Ron's husband. Yeah. Lloyd can be in a movie anytime, I would watch that movie. But we think Kirk decided the potentially had happened before the movie was before they may be got married. So we're not entirely sure. From what I understand. I think that the movie takes certain liberties with the story that may not have been historically accurate that never happens movie is about. Liane? I wanted to ask you. So where do you come down on the great Rick Devon's debate of twenty nineteen? Are you in on Rick Devon's? Do you stand? Rick devon's. Or is Rick Devon's your ops? Okay. I knew I was going to get this question. Because this is the hot debate of the week. I think you timely on read it almost every single thread right now is I love Rick Devon's. Or I hate Devon's everybody is weighing or way out on Rick Devon's. I know that that young Rick Devon's is very very high on future. Jordan Kayless has Dan. That's right. Yeah. I don't, you know mini. Rick Devon's I don't wanna step on your toes or anything. I loved this concept, though, that you talked about rob of the Rick Devon's rohrschack test like what the rohrschack test of the probably a newbie game. Their next week. But it's definitely to me. I thought like, oh, this is laurel Yanni the yellow gold black blue because it does seem to be so polarizing it's like one or the other and there's nothing in between which for me as someone who feels like I fall in between like I can appreciate Rick Devon's for the entertainment that he brings to TV. I don't really get the severe hatred of Rick like, I guess, I don't really know. Exactly what he's doing that Garner's likes that level of can't stand. Rick his showmanship. But on the other hand, he's not super appealing. Oh my gosh. Rick Devon's is the best character ever. So I think for me I'm entered entertained by him, and especially his blasting of Ron and Julie at that tribal. I was all about that. Because in terms of the emotions that are brought out on reality. TV shows the extreme emotions are always so much fun. And. Anger as my personal favorite. So the really went after them that was really great. I thought and this. Yes. He's. I was just gonna say the clapping at the end when he development vote for Ron ago. Entertain at the same time. Like, you're such a doofus. Leila. Leila. Is it possible? Did he know more than the episode led on in terms of where the votes were ultimately going like did somebody have a conversation with him of like, hey, if you have an advantage, you should play tonight like with somebody sort of like really invested in seeing go where I mean, he still cast his vote for Aurora. So I think that that would take her potentially add to the mix, but he did seem like not shocked that the votes were coming for Ron and was really delighted. Yeah. That's a good question. So I was trying to sort of put all of this together. And I think the conversation that we saw with Victoria, and Lauren, and then a Rura I think that happened during the that happens later in the episode, but I think that actually happened during the reward. So I think that there was sort of a planned thing between the two say, okay, look, we're definitely voting out Rick. However if. Does have an idol we need a contingency plan. So I don't think because of that that they were really in cahoots with reckon would've let him know. I I don't know. We'd have to go back and look exactly at the shot because Rick still voted for a rural. Like just in case. It is. Okay. But I don't know he seemed to believe Ron Clark. Also with the whole menu thing at least in his confessional. That's the way it sounded. I just wonder if those might have been cut where he was talking about how you know that oh, this is such a great gift that Ron gave me and then followed it up by or it could be complete up gifts. I guess we'll have to find out because he did play the fake advantage menu. I and I did feel like he was almost like one of these like trial, lawyers that you see in a movie where he is like asking a set of questions. And then when he gets the answer that like the person thinks they got one over on him. He ends up like. Turning around with like a complete like out of nowhere point. Because I mean, there's just the delivery did seem like you rehearsals. Where he came back around. And then got the got the idol out. So did you the code Ron? I did not. I did not. One of the other really fun. Rick Devon's moments that I haven't seen talked about a lot anywhere was when Rick found the clue to the advantage. The need it to be secret. I'm gonna go get it right now. This is of impression like needs the idols. No, you must wait for the idol thing that popped into my head and not moment. It's such a good club. Right in they're gonna March in there. I'm just gonna go grab the no. It was like a out loud voice overs. Great. Doesn't really fun. And look I really appreciate what Rick Devon's is bringing to the show. I understand why people aren't on him. But for me, he's bringing a lot of entertainment to this show. And I can't say that for the rest of the other castaways that are out there on the main island. I agree. I've I've loved the whole the whole season. And I think I think part of the backlash against him. Is that people that aren't really loving him are sort of annoyed by the fact that so many people are entertained in do love him. I mean, look, I I've said it before where I don't think that Rick Devon's is playing the best game of everybody left. I think that's Victoria. But as far as entertainment on the show, I think they're downplaying so much of what Victoria's doing which I think is a shame because she is the one who has been in on every vote even though she didn't vote for Ron in this episode. She clearly knew it was going on with Rick. We don't know if you knew national. They're downplaying. What Victoria is doing that? I think that she's not getting as much of an edit for someone who has been so instrumental in every single vote yet. But you feel like that they're trying to hide her or do you feel like that? There's just like a not great footage because I always operate under the assumption that survivor if they have great footage, they're not gonna leave that on the cutting room floor. So if they have, you know, really great confessionals of a person talking about what they're doing. I don't know why they would hide that. It doesn't make any sense why they wouldn't want to put the best stuff in the show. Well, no, I I think that though, then wouldn't they have included the war dog versus reim- segment from the edge of accents fair. That's the best case so far the they don't include the best stuff on the show when they leave the war dog versus ream on the cutting room floor. Yeah. I think maybe I think almost every scene that we have gotten were Aurora. Sorry now, we're Royal where victim. Oria did Victoria Aurora before. Because. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Yeah. I think every scene where we have seen Victoria highlighted has been great. I think she's a very unique character. But I also think part of what makes her so unique is that she's a civil character. So I think some of her confessionals have been really good. But maybe there just isn't the the amount of content that we have somebody like Rick and again, I'm a huge fan. So it's not it's not any slight against him. I just think strategically she's been in on every vote, and she's never been in the minority. But I feel like that you could play a game that's under the radar. But you can also be narrating. What's happening in the show? It doesn't necessarily oh we'll show her game is under the radar. So we're not seeing her confessionals where she's breaking down everything that's happening in the game. No. I think I think that's a good point. Well, if you like subtle players, I have a character view. His name is Brett from Samoa. Tyson. Yeah. I think things ain't person. I don't know. It's interesting because you think about the major characters that are left, and obviously Rick ovens is the major character remaining on the main island, and then there's sort of these other like supporting characters that are there. And I think some of the qualms with over ovens is getting all this airtime and getting editors then there's no one else to really turn to because everyone else's seemingly has less of an edit to them, and I know less about their story, and I really don't in comparison know that much about the other people that are left. Yeah. I do think that that's a big factor. In terms of like, whatever Rick Devon's backlash that there is where he is the person who is the outsider all the other people are working against him. But we are seeing the most of his story when he is clearly on the out strategically in the game where it makes it feel like that his story is more important to the season. And the story of the people who are actually navigating where this thing is going. Do you think he needs to be the the Mike Holloway in order to like to win out? You mean like when the? Yeah. I mean, I think that he just seems to be standing out, especially with the way that the jury is responding to him. I mean, you can't help if you're a person on the other side and see the type of responses that he's getting and think oh, yeah. I should definitely let this person go to the end with me. But he very much reminds me a little bit in the edit of like Benji Bergen. But the problem is is that there's no Chrissy in contrast there, or you know, what Ryan who's the other person. Well, Ben is. That name has been thrown around a lot because everybody is trying to get Ben out of the game. And he is finding all these idols in his season. But I think there were a lot of other people that were in that season where when we get to the final five that everybody has a little bit of a shot to win the game. I mean, don't forget about you have Devon Pinto. Who was there who a lot of people thought that he could win the game? You had Ryan you have, Krissy. Dr Mike is there too. And so you had a lot of people that you Lauren Rimmer was still there. I think at the final seven, and there was a lot of people that you felt like well this is really anybody's game. But Ben was the person this doesn't necessarily feel that same way. So you have that with Rick Devon's where he is the Ben reeburg thing. But that he also is great in the confessional and these little scenes on the fly. So he also I think has a bit of Cochran in him. Him who's another person that has had his own share of backlash against people where he's polarizing character. People. Love seeing him on the show. And it's like, oh my God enough of Cochran stop shoving him down our throats, if the see him why does he have so many confessionals? So Rick is sort of the Ben reeburg in mixed with Cochran. Depending on your mileage on those types of characters. That's really I think why every so polarized. What a love child that would be. I guess it is it's it's wreck. I just go back to the other people and think about what are their narratives throughout this season. What his heavens narrative? The only thing is install remember about Gavin is that voted out his best friend, and he married today's his. Yeah. And he got married two days before survivor like those are the two things I know about Gavin. It also might be a factor that you know, we're seeing a lot of Rick Devon. And also might be that the other people who are in the game may not be giving them the best confessionals to to us. Also where that not everybody that's left in the final six really pops off the screen when they're giving their different quotes or analysis of what's going on. So they lean on Devon's a lot. And that might also be contributing to. What's going on? Let me bring in a voicemail that we didn't get to a lot of the voice mails that were from the feedback show with Bryce let me bring in this question that is from Lauren and she wants to ask a question about what's going on on the edge of extinction. High bright more in time caller longtime listener at the last tribal council, we hall lean wearing the sale from the extinction as an article closing. Fabulous stashing since one of the island with purple tan status where? Okay. All right Liana. Do you have any thoughts on ream wearing the sale? Well, first of all sorry, Lauren. He didn't get Bryce to answer this question. But someone currently wearing an oversized Suraj a t shirt and like tiny shorts. I will do my best to answer this question. So bream completely taking over all of the items of the edge of extinction is I think one of my favorite things like she has opted the sale to be her own clothing. She's now bringing it around everywhere because this one unless it got really dirty, it's gray which is different than the white one the shoeless wearing earlier so somehow found more fabric out there and totally here for it. Listen to I got here. I everything on this island. Mine I claimed it. I've got to sail, and it's mine, and it doesn't mean I'm raising the sale because I'm never ever leaving his island. Okay. Have you ever seen pirates of Caribbean? Where like the the crew of Davy Jones the Davy Jones like the pirate his crew becomes part of the ship. I think this is a case of reimb- cart becoming part of the edge like they all turned into these fish, and I think remains becoming like a an edge of extinction creature. And I think even when they kicked him off like when after the challenge, I don't think Rima's leaving the edge of extinction. I think she lives there now. Well. It's like all right ream time part of the listen dared. I'm never leaving. I can't have to stay here. Forever. Part of the island. This is a symbiotic relationship, we need each other all the trees started die. Go without me. I'll be fine. I'm pretty sure she even said it was in the secrets in that we were talking about earlier with Riemann war dog. And I think she said something to the extent of this might as well be my island because I was here. I think really it is she's co opted designed it is resigned. Yeah. She's gonna leave and you're going to hear like a collective like well all the wildlife and the trees just gonna go. Name and everything's just gonna die on the haunted island. Leon do you like this idea for a future season of survivor survivor, Reem island, where the contestants that every every episode somebody gets sent to go to re Mylan, and she gives them a remaining. But then there's also the opportunity that they can play for like, listen. All right. You want this advantage or what we're going to play a game? Okay. There's this three sales and one of them has an advantage over the other two is a baller ice that you're gonna go. And then go up the steps and go fill up and get my dinner. So is this like ghost island esque where you know, you have to play a game period. Play Rian game. Ream where ongo silent used to like, okay? This is a play game. If I open this read the clue Rina's just there. And then she just like choose you out like she did to ward off in the the whole time that you're there. I would definitely be here for that. Twist. Like, I said, they emotion that I get most excited about on reality TV is anger. And so renamed just going after some of these portions testi- that are out there. Really? I think would make it that much better. I mean, if you're going to bring back a ghost island esque twist, I think this is definitely the way to do it. The buff is just like the logo for the season's just reinstate with a with a chat bubble. That's dude. Silhouette silhouette come on tacky to have her face on the buff. This was her with war dog. Just I can't get enough with this evening that you can bet your rear end, you're going to get it tomorrow for me. Just so, you know, expectation bitter bitter. Yeah dog I'm not bitter. I think that you're mature. I don't have the energy to deal with baked by gotta be with. You can't be fake about oil and water. So why are you even sit next me water over there too? Eyelid as you saying that we're dog is part of the part of the water. He's off the island where Ellen water. This is where the oil goes you go over there and the war. Sweeping the ocean telling telling ward octa, go sleep in the ocean. Go back to the ocean. You see me these challenges. I can't even swim in the ocean. Have room for you on this island? I'm a little to be huge. I got here and Williams supposed to be. The energy for the Biaz right now. I got beef with you get out. I don't want you. Yeah. That's so good her interacting people. I think really makes this even better is then what happens to Ron Clark at the end of. No heart. It's just a game. They Ron Clark is like he is doing his penance have been have been have been a bad boy in this game and reinforcing about it really have lottery of lot game. He's here. Yeah. Ron Ron Clark is obviously water he can oil. He can stay your oil run. You can stay. You're like vinegar you pair. Well with me that's another future season survivor oil versus water. Who's this? Who's this? That's the island with three Meilen to us. What the remind was. This group of people. They're loyal. They're slippery slide through life. Nothing to them. If no friction whatsoever. These people are vinegar that they're bitter. People around way can't catch any flaw. This tribe, and these people their water they've move in the flow state, whatever container there in they moved to fill him. So not going to be on the water tribe. Right. No, no, come on. God. Okay. Let's see from the from the episode. Lemme view a piece of strategy moving forward. Let's see. This was another question that we didn't get to with Bryce, and let's go back to Karen from the love you bay area. Had this question high rather than vase? This is Karen from the love you bay area loving that I'm gonna hear you talking soon. I'm wondering about the situation with Lawrence idle because usually the six is the last time you can play an idol. But we are presuming that it's going to go from six down to five and back up to six again. So I wonder if there's some other deal with her I'll or she's going to think this is the last time she can use it can then use it again. Anyway, love to hear your thoughts about that. We all know what's going to be the deal with the with the you can put it Idelson five. Right. Yes. So she'll be good for this one. But then somebody's gonna come back. But I don't know if they don't know when they're gonna come back is that going to throw her off. Well, they know it's going to happen at some point in time. So they can probably jus it's not gonna be at the final three. But I don't know you never know. Maybe not the final force and sound they know about the final fire making challenge. So maybe think, oh, they might come back in at the last time you could play your idols. So I, but it's so confusing because when you have to go down to like do you go down to final four and that would go back up the final five. Oh my gosh. See this is what makes this twist. So confusing about exactly what time they're gonna come back in because to me. No, I sure that it is going to be down to final sit seven. No, I'm just operating under the assumption that we're gonna see somebody voted off this week. And then the finale is going to start with somebody coming back into the game. And they'll have to get through to votes back in the game, which I think is so much better than if somebody came back at the final five, and they only had with four people left making it a new final five and they only had to win one challenge before the fire making really scared of before the season, but with the amount of episodes left. I think it's going to be coming back in with five making it a new final six. We'll see I mean with Ozzie he came back in it got down to four and then it came back to five with Ozzy back in the game. But that was with no final firemen. So we'll see I will not like it a lot. If we get down to five people or get down to four people, and then and then bring somebody back, and then it's five to get through one vote before we get the fire making. So then she would know because someone would come back making it the final six. Again, before she has to like, oh you have to play it now. Because if you're gonna go final five to final four then back to final five, then Lauren could be out, you know, use it unnecessarily potentially. When she may have been able to use it that next the next tribal. We do you have a prediction as to who's this week. Oh my gosh. I have no idea what is happening in terms of the future of this game. So I do this thing which is really fun. Every survivors even fund office pools where we try to predict who's going to go each week. I know I'm erred, and I just have no sense of what is going on. Because I think it was Jeff probe said at the beginning of the season. Like, this is going to be like a murder mystery. And this is what does that mean in terms of editing? I think what it means is that I have no clue what's going on. Which means I should never join you guys run out all of them. It'd be terrible out. But I guess if I had to pick someone I mean, obviously, Rick is the. First person that stands out just because he is like, oh, the huge threat. But that's obviously assumingly doesn't want him unity. So I guess my money would probably be on Rick. If I had to pick someone just because Walsum, I get a go with I think recast to be out if he doesn't have another idol, or if he doesn't win immunity, I would say though, and again, we were we've been talking a lot about the edit. The fact that Rick really seems to be the only person left in the game with like with a like, I wouldn't say an obvious winners edit, but with like, a real substantial edit, I think there's a good chance that he does find another item. Or he does when immunity, and I think my guess for the person going out next for whatever reason would be Gavin. I think he is seen as a big threaten the game. I could we sort of sauce seeds of a Lauren and Julia relationship forming where they were talking about the women getting together that would of course, include Victoria and Aurora. So I think that Gavin could be potentially in trouble. If devons were to win immunity or find an idol. I think Rick Devon's is going to get voted out. And I think he is going to win his way back in he's going to pull the Victor here early. So that's actually really interesting because I was thinking about the people who are out on the edge. They have no shot right at the reward challenges where at least if you're in the game, you have some shot at reward challenges. And I don't know it have to go back and look and see if Rick has won some, but you're theoretically, getting more nutrients potentially than the people that are out on the edge. So the least amount of time you spend out there. Maybe the better chance you have of getting back into the game. Maybe that's why we're not seeing that much because Joe and Chris Underwood are just like catching like a million fish and Stingray. And it's like a real like smorgasbord out there. Yeah. Maybe I think also I don't know who I would pick out of the edge of extinction cast members unless it's like a quick revolving door type situation this really stand out as yeah. This person is. Definitely gonna come in. And if it's not Rick I think whoever gets voted out this week. I think is going to come back into the game. Because I don't have a good feeling about anybody. That's on the edge of extinction. That is going to come back in and win. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. There actually was another thing. I wanted to talk about and talk about Rick made me think of this. Okay. Was Jeff Jeff is not always the smoothest when it comes to interacting with the loved ones. But I thought he was particularly awkward this go round. Just me. This. Oh, the episode is called awkward like, oh, it's Jeff Bruton super. There was the whole thing with Lawrence. Yeah. I don't wanna know what you whispered in your dad's ear, and then Rick with his wife, does it trigger you, and she brings up your son. And he doesn't know where you are. I don't know there were just some like their comments. I thought it was particularly offer at this time. Yeah. It is like a weird of spot where Jeff is like prying into the nature of the relationship of. Okay. So what's it like being a person who's married like, yeah? I guess it's fun ups and downs. You know, like, Jordan. What's it like being a son? Let's not answer that question. Yeah. That's why. Because just doesn't want those types of reacted. I don't know what it's like to a son. He really wants to have those DT our conversations on national TV Liana. How do I get my EMMY this time? To find the relationship, Jordan. Okay. Okay. 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The current contestants have a little bit slow down with everything that they were saying about the show Liana. I wonder why that could put on. Boyle had I don't know with the exception of war dog who is same same as ever. Okay. Let's let's see. What's what's going on here? So a lot of reactions from the survivors about the family. Visit Davey Rickenbacker was very proud of the big salute to my boy, Mr. Ron Clark for not only time on CBS. But for all that he does for youth here in Atlanta with the Ron Clark academy. Proud of you mate. Good luck getting back in so count Davey as a Ron Clark fan. I wonder if Davey counts as one of math friends, friends, friends. Ron clark. What do you think wrong Clark's role in the wrong Clark academy is still teach? Does he know idea? There's a debate on this on the like what exactly does he do? What exactly would just say you do here? I feel like he does everything he could be like the willy Wonka where more of the tour guide, but he could also I could see him doing every job from why lunch lady to like emceeing the the school shows. Like, I think he does I think he does everything the sides teach at the school. So you think that people will win a ticket to go. Visit the Ron Clark academy. And then he takes them through and loses some people on the way a lot of teachers goes there for training. Yeah. They all come back. They they all they all come back the escape. But yeah, I mean, look teachers teachers do go there and the willy Wonka story, it's like survivor, you lose people on the life. And they go the. Yeah. Survivor hits really like willy Wonka. Chocolate factory. Kind of is. At the end, you win the lot of money. Like a pinball machine. Just like Willie Wonka all say, all right. Let's talk about Jacob Derwin tweeted, man, I should really be paying more attention to the season. Same. Maybe like who are these other people? We don't know either. You are not alone. Stephen fishbach tweeted, this is more pertaining to the amazing race. I didn't go on the amazing race because it interfered with my wedding conclusively proving that I'm a better husband than Gavin fired. Yeah. That was that was pretty funny. Also by the way, shout out to your Instagram takeover. Thank you. Thank you. That was lovely my personal favorite. One was the how to save money on your Honey. I liked that one gonna what thought about the wrong Clark rule of the week. We went with something else. But yeah, that was lovely. That's a good move. It's a good move of just like have like engagement like around the time like with survivor casting is happening and then set that up, and then you could go either way because at one if you have cold feet, and they have good excuse to get out of getting married, and then to have the quick wedding save some money, and then save more money on honeymoon. Yeah. Exactly. I think it totally makes sense. But also, you know, what I will say like shout out to Stephen. It was a smart call that you guys didn't end up going because otherwise he wouldn't have been able to get married on June ninth, which is like my personal favorite date, of course of all time as married. Thanked me recently for informing him that his anniversary was June ninth. And that he will never not think about that. As he should speaking of weddings. Randy Bailey said if I ever get married there's no question, I will get divorced. I want at Aurora McCreary to be my divorce lawyer. I love the way she thinks. That's what you should do. Get divorced and go on survivor instead. Colin. All right. It's all part of your story. Yeah. I would also want Aurora's my lawyer, I should've used I mean, we didn't end up getting lawyers for the divorce because it was amicable. But like me and my ex husband like, I if we had been going at it. Roar is definitely the lawyer that I would want she. Although she does have she does tend to let all the information out would worry. Keep you know, like between us she would just say it anyway. Yeah. I feel like that one of her things this season is that they have talked about her like, well, you never know if she's going to let the cat out of the bag at tribal council this time, we saw her going through said bag. That's a good point. I didn't even think about that. So Aurora also tweet about how she was messing with her roommate when you roommate complaints too much about picking up your Amazon boxes, there's only one thing to do purchase a thirty five pound weight. And no now patiently wait until they text you asking ordered. And they must pulled their backout. Okay. Never mind. I take back. What I said about having auroras. My lawyer that's Pence. Maybe that's just part of her emo- is like, oh, yeah. You go through people's Amazon packages. So you go through people's bags. Not awkward. I just did it. Jeff Pittman at times had a great fact he tweeted out dude ream has now tied met L rod for the most non game exile, redemption or extinction days played, and we'll take sole possession of the number one spot in the next episode good for free, and I would also want to know about confessional counts. Like re must have by far the most confessionals someone not actually in the regular game of survivor. Oh, yeah. That's a good question. If we're going to get the confessional count for the season. I bet she's in the top eight. This is probably better than that. Yes. I think she's gotten the only people who can think that have definitely gotten more than her, obviously, Devon's I think David Wright has probably gotten more confessionals than she has. I would say Kelly Wentworth has gotten more confessionals. But besides that is there anyone else you could think of definitely has more confessionals in rim. Okay. Just dog working on. I'm not sure how much this is up dated. So of the current people in the game. Rick is leading the way by a lot. He has forty one confessionals on the season. And then the rest of the people in the game are Julie has Twenty-three Lauren has eighteen Gavin's eighteen Victoria's eighteen Aurora has eleven. Ream. Has more than one of the people that are still active in the game. It's not as many, I just I think her confessionals are just more memorable than other people's she make it also a lot of content not necessarily confessionals. Listen, listen. So she has fourteen confessionals for the season, which is more than. Julia. Chris joe. Eric and Aurora. So not bad for being the first book. Yeah for. Yeah. Exactly considering remember she was the first Boone of the season. So I don't even know who those people are that you just mentioned. All right. All right. So let me see if there's any other ones a lot of I feel like a kneecap sucking going on between survivors, and the either the survivors are being horrible to each other on social media or a lot of like kneecap sucking meet him. They need to be likely on with Rick Devin stake to somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Here's a conversation between a couple of survivors. Jessica Lewis tweeted about you, don't even really smell bad from Carly compliment that is only truly acceptable on survivor. Elizabeth Olsen responded. How in the world did Gavin make it that far and not smell like crap? Maybe he was sponsored by deodorant and he's testing new slogan last thirty nine days. Yes. That would be interesting you'd be like, oh, and that's how they paid for their wedding sponsorship deal. Gavin and that I was on a survivor island for bunch days. And my wife said, I didn't even smell that bad. Yeah. It's just pops off the screen. It's got to be the pineapple shirt. It's magic. Magic pine shirt. And then Lisa came in to set the record straight. She doesn't want to hear about a magic pineapple shirt. Excuse me. She said we all smell like moldy cheese and a porta potty. Oh, I prefer to think of the magic pineapple shirt. Like, I'm just going to pretend the last parts happen. She knows what that smells like though. It's going to be the pineapple. Maybe maybe each pineapple on the shirt is like an air freshener. And it's just like they're like little pins that are hanging off the shirt and not just that's possible on in may, maybe it's like when you go like the car wash that much of pineapple airfresheners in that pineapple shirt was made out of. Yeah. Okay. Julie Rosenberg tweeted wouldn't have been able to have this incredible experience without having him. Stand beside me in life. No, one is more supportive or a bigger cheerleader of your dreams and accomplishments than he is. Thank you, Mark. And she had a picture of her with her husband, Mark, which actually leads me back into a voicemail from the Bryce podcast that we didn't get to here is a question that is from Eric. Hey brice. This is Eric from Midlothian for Jinya. I have a question. I haven't heard anybody talk about this crazy this Julie's husband, look, maybe a little bit like, rob. Or at least a cost player trying to be rob. Thanks a lot have a good one. Now. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Either. See it. I also get a thing where it doesn't matter who the person is if they're wearing a plaid shirt that I get that sent to me of like, hey, is this you like as like a joke. Yeah. I think it's a combination of the plaid shirt. And then at least the picture that. I'm looking at right now his hair kind of like pooping up in the middle a little man, it's a little bit longer that might be it. But at least facial feature wise, I can't say. Yeah. See it at all. Here's I have a theory on this, rob. Because I think I've seen a lot in like the Facebook group in the patriot group there have been a lot of posts over the years where people are like, oh, this person is a rod Doppler ganger. I think that we we spend so much time listening to the podcast that you're just like in our your inner heads, everyone who might have free one tiny thing that looks like your yet rent-free in our heads. I think maybe nobody knows what I look like tells a possibility sound like I never get this person. Sounds like rob sister Nino. Okay. I want to go back to Julie's comment though. Okay. That's sweet adorable. Love doors. Julie the best. Posted on Twitter was there is a video. She tweeted this out of her of of Mark her husband, decking, one of their kids into the scene. Yeah. It's it's it's a decade. Punching. He he like hold on. I'm looking at it right now. They're racing. They're racing on the beach. And hey, just like pushes the kid over. The hashtag is hashtag bad parenting. And then the kid cries and stuff. I just watched the beginning with a kid gets knocked over. But then she does this editing where like slows it down and slow motion. So anyone is interested in some like, not sweet if I play the audio of it is it does it sound like anything. I think it just sounds like the beach goes, well, an audio pod. All right. So check Julie's Twitter for that. Yes. Hopefully, everybody's able to catch their breath in that video. This was another sound clip that I didn't get the play from the episode. This was when Rick Devon's was cheering everybody on doing good. Doing well. Aurora. A real Stephen fish back out there. Real. Paraphrase anybody? Doing good you're doing. Well. I think is a quote from thirty rock where it was like superman does good you're doing. Well. That's all I remember it. Thanks TV to for right? Yeah. It was like two for and. Who's having a conversation with whatever. Yeah. Okay. All right. Ben Lauren O'Connell at Lally underscore, Alexandra. Of course is that growing on Europe. Yes is strong. Swear handle. She's tweeted out just showed my data tweet. That says Lauren's dad is a daddy. And my dad. For real looked at me confused and said, well, of course, I am. She's my daughter, and she has upside down smiley emoji. And then a straight line smile emoji. That's so wholesome while. Lauren's dad do I have a calendar for you. Yes. Concepts introduce you to and then. So Lawrence mentioned that the she showed her dad, the Lauren's dad is a daddy tweet. And then it was revealed that our own Edward Morris was the person who tweeted look instead, it's daddy. So perfect. So. Of course, it was. Do you mow Liana? So this past week. We mentioned I was on the survivor Instagram takeover and had a lot of fun doing that. Even if not everybody at my house did where I was filming stupid videos all night. But I also recorded a couple of other videos that ended up being shared through the various survivor social media platforms, including video which was shared to the survivor Facebook page Liana, and so I had to answer a question about whether or not I would go to extinction island if I was voted out of the game on survivor. So I let me let me share that clip that I recorded right here in the studio here is me on. On the survivor Facebook page here and find the choice between when I get voted out of the game going to the edge of extinction or going home. I go to the edge of extinction because it looks pretty easy. Are you even kidding me? Right now that are you joking. The edge of extinction is way tougher than you. Because you're lame. Okay. All right. So that was the video that was courtesy of the renew puppet. Also been. And it's been a big a big success addition, do my podcasting. Okay. So Liana, I know that you typically get to play the casual corner over on the being me with Mike. So courtesy of the great Jason Curtis Rivera I-. I have a game for you. Which is I have five comments from Facebook four are from people responding to this video and one is from the rob has a podcast patron group. Okay. Okay. Identify which is the one from the patron grew. Yes. Which is the comment from the patron group. Okay. Okay. I'm about to insult the patriot. And made that com. All right. I don't find correctly. All right here. We go. Number one. This guy isn't the least bit familiar to me. And I have watched every season. Yeah. That sounds about. Right. Number two. Who is that on the stick? Number three. I have no memory of him. And I've been watching survivor began. Number four, get a job. And number five rock looks like Zachary Quinto. Oh my goodness. Okay. So the I do love the inclusion, obviously one of them has to be real of the I don't recognize this guy. And I've watched every season. That is your takeaway from this. Okay. Let's work through this. So that the comment of like I've seen every season. So like this can't be factual is like totally thing that happens all the time. So I think at least one of those real, right? The vet is. A lot of the survivor Facebook page comments start with I've seen every season. And yes, exact- fan splaine and going on over there. Yeah. Because they've seen every season. So, you know. Okay. So then the other question the other ones were about Zachary Quinto, apparently that you look like now does he look like Mark is the other question, and it's like men diet. The corollary lookalike. They're just guys. They're all guys. That's it. Zachary Quinto known for wearing plaid shirts battle we need to take into account. I could see that comment because sometimes you get those weird. Okay. I think that one's real. And then what were the other two who is this on the stick and get a job? Okay. I think they get a job one is real that. Also sounds like the Casuals. So now, I just have to decide if the who's on the stick. That's that could be someone trolling because I think whoever commented on this is definitely a troll. Don't know who it might be. Okay. I think I'm gonna go with my gut. I'm gonna go with who is that on a stack? And that is right. And that is the effort mentioned Morris. Right. At Mohegan actually, he was one of the ones. So I did. Okay. So Theresa this on the NBA a couple of weeks back. I wanted to do like a family feud style game road ask questions and then pull like the number of responses. I got like four total responses, and they were like one real response. Just asking a question the rest were just patrons or like people from the RJ community seeing my comment and EDNA was one of them make sense that he's there. I would like to thank the people that responded to the get a job comments with. Thank you. Michael of who responded. It's funny because this is literally his job. Maybe they're saying get a new job to the new job. Yeah. Maybe it's like you stink at this job. Find find a different occupation. Right. Like, I don't know. But puppet master might not be master. That's right. Okay. Ron all right. I'm the one holding all the sticks with the duct tape to the back of the picture. Okay. All right. We're gonna get into Jordan's big quiz coming up next. But first let me thank our other sponsor here today on the times gases. Okay. Those are friends over at joy bird furniture. Does your future bring you joy? Or are. You a missing a couch or a chair that says this is my home and not like pee wee's playhouse sorta way where they actually had talking furniture. You want a haven a place that feels uniquely you enjoy. 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About Twiss and Liana. So we are you are here to potentially make some history today because there are two two time winners in the history of this quiz. It is you, and is it is Mary quick hausky frail, Mary, but frail Mary is not so happy that you are here to break the tide today. She she thinks that you were trying to one up her and she's not so pleased. So is this a real rivalry? Or is this something that you're making up Jordan? Vincent man of casting. No. Well, maybe I have I have the real statement from Mary cow ski. She says I have taken your spot on BB can Saturday updates and I'm taking your thrown onto ish. You may be scientist. But does your dad giaga l-? Yes. Good question. And then referred to refer to her dad as frail daddy. What is is this real? He's a real this fan fiction. I will say. No, it's fan fiction. I did I will say that. I was complicit in this. I did reach out to marry for a comment. She had no idea that you were going to be the guest on onto us this week. I sort of sort of cokes cokes this out of her. But yes, she has you have ops. You have obviously on wait. So you asked her for comment Abacha's? I I asked her to talk some trash and she did. Oh, she was talking trash. Okay. Talking trash. Yeah. What did she say about my dad? No. She said you may be scientists because your dad juggle her dad job, apparently, which is like jogging and jug running and juggling. I dunno jogging jocking some sort of Ling. Yeah, you're right. I believe he is who Guinness Book of world records for John. Yeah. Yeah. She's she's giving you credit for being a scientist saying that your dad doesn't giaga l-. This is like I think the fact that I was the one who had to like messenger like ten minutes before we started recording this. I don't think she really has too much beef with you. But I think she wants the crown she wants to to still be tied winningest player in twisty. All right. The Elliott Anthony rivalry. Yes. Yes. Completely contrived by me. But okay. All right. Okay. We spent enough time on this. Okay. Let's all right. You know the rules. We're not going to go over the rules. We didn't do it last week with Eva you've been on. This is your third time here. So I'm going to give you the four the four multiple choice question categories the categories that we have today are five six seven and eight the Ana you choose. I what are you serious? Okay. Do you have one clarification question? I have smart devices. And I'm wondering if I'm allowed to still use them. I'm like really apparently government surveillance. I both Google and Alexa. It means. You're not breaking rules. You're you're good for one of your questions. You can use it. Yeah. I would like is. I wish that I could turn. My apple portable device. I don't like to say the name because I don't want things to I wish had rainbows. I did not get what you were talking about cannot do like, listen, dude. I don't even new contact is do you wanna send alarm? I didn't hear that. You're going to have to repeat it. I would pay money for that. Okay. All right. Oh, five six seven eight. He'll shlomo. Appreciate six six. Okay. So we're going to go to survivor Kagi on havoc. Tariq is the name of the episode not re R E K game of thrones from may seven two thousand fourteen five years ago Tuesday at the Kagi on final six, which two players do Spencer and tasha attempt to split the votes between. Ooh. Okay. So this was okay. To rethink about this. So this was so I'm pretty sure, okay. Those Spencer in Taucha decided to split the votes between two of the players, and I've decided to so I'm not going to get them multiple choice because I know who was there. So I think one of them is Tony. I think it was Tony and Trish, Tony and Trish is correct. When they're very very good job. Yeah. So. Choice on that. They thought they potentially had Casson. Woo voting with them cast who ended up voting with Tony Trish for for tasha here at the final six. Yes. Spencer and tasha did did cast one vote each I've alita tasha voted for Tricia Spencer voted for Tony. But the plan did not work and tasha was voted out. Very good job here. This is when they had woo RL. Mary's. From areas very nervous right here on the reward Salins with them. They tried strategizing with him strategizing with woo doesn't necessarily always work out and Liana you have a two zero lead. Rob you have you can choose either five seven or eight Bryce had a great story about woo on the feedback show. Really, I'll take eight eight we're gonna go to heroes vs villains. A sinking ship from eighth sixty thousand ten nine years ago Monday at the final immunity challenge. Jeff reads ACLU to the whole tribe that an idol is hidden at their camp who ends up finding this idol. Could you repeat the question again? Sure, this is heroes vs villains at the final eight immunity challenge. Jeff Redick to the whole tribe that an idol is hidden at their camp who ends up finding this idol. Okay. I. Think I know who it is. But I will I will do the multiple choice because I don't want to potentially find myself in a three zero hole if I'm wrong. All right. So going for one point no steel here. We have a poverty be Rupert. See Russell hands de Sandra. Sandra was going to be my guess. Sandra is correct. So you get a point there. This was a pretty important idol not because the idol ended up doing all that much did play it at the final five didn't turn. She didn't really need to. She didn't get the votes. However, Rupert was a was able to hide I believe it was a rock in his pants to pretend he had an idol, and the vote split was was then between Colby and Kansas Rupert potentially got himself a little bit further in the game by blonde full thought that Rupert had rocks in his pants running the amazing race this season. It would explain a lot. Yes. We ought to you have a two to one lead, and you can choose either five or seven. No nine. Okay. So i'm. With what? Six now. Okay. Five we are going to survive exile island all the way from the eleventh two thousand six thirteen years ago Saturday in a lead up to Terry Dietz, making a call to the web Yellen Slater in this episode who does he snap at for placing their torch in front of his path allegedly causing him to trip in the dark after the final five tribal council. Oh, okay. So I know this one because this is my favorite season. I love sorry. I'm gonna I I'm wanna try one of my sister devices is that is that allowed. Can I see if they? Okay. I wanted to see. Okay. Google. Who three fields deeds? Trim never mind. Okay. Let's open dot com. They say he played two seasons with the Rams before becoming an. I thought we were onto something second. Never mind talking. I have no idea. Okay. This is Serie. I know this. It is serene. You get another two points here. Ford away like that. Okay. Did did it react to you saying? I think it new. I don't know these terrifying. Call the Wham villains to one lead. Rob you're in a little bit of trouble here. But you still even call me Ammiel is definitely not over. You don't have that set up. Okay. All right. So we're going to go to worlds apart for this. Last question holding on for dear life from may six two thousand fifteen four years ago Monday at the worlds apart final seven eventual winner, Mike Holloway, played an idol negating four votes against him. Recent HP, guests Caroline Rivera famously joined Mike and voting for Tyler who went home at the tribal who was the one other person who voted with Mike and Carolyn for Tyler. Who was the one of the person with Mike and Carolyn or Tyler? I kind of feel like I need to nail this one. If I'm going to stay in this one that if Leon as four. Let's see. I think that I that. If you say the mobile choices, I think that's going to basically eliminate everybody else. That's that's possible. So you could read the question. One more time sure at the worlds apart final seven eventual winner, Mike Holloway, play tonight, negating four votes against him. Recent RHA, guess Caroline Rivera famously joined Mike in voting for Tyler who went home at this tribal. Who was the one other person who voted with Mike and Carolyn four Tyler? Okay. So the only other options are Sierra dawn Thomas will Rodney or were, Dan. I will I will say that it was fan favorites. Here on HAMAs f f s angle is correct. You get two points there, and it is a lot closer. Now. It's Liana four to three lead going into the death match. Rob is gonna go. I in the stuff match since Liana some will lead the game is called fifth sixth or seventh. The game will start with one player. That's going to be rob picking a random number between one and eight to decide the order. I will give you a player season. And you must tell me if that person came in fifth sixth or seventh for answers will be given during this round. And if you're incorrect, you may not get any more points less we a tiebreaker. Therefore, if you're incorrect and your first sponsored open the door for your opponent to gain three points in this round. If there's a tie we will continue so rob choose a number between one and eight to start the game. Choose six. Okay. So we're going to go to survivor token jeans. This is the Debbie did she come in fifth sixth or seventh? Okay. I know she didn't come in fifth. I am trying to think who else is there. This is not a three hour podcast. So I'm going to say that she came in. Six six is correct. So you get a point there. We are tied for two four. Yeah. You knew that coach was the fifth place. WB was the one outright before coach. So was seven right. Sierra was on fan favorites. Sierra other whatever her name is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have Liana you're gonna get that her name. We're going to go to marquess, rob the general Decani. Oh. Okay. So I'm just gonna work backwards. So rock draw scalp for. I think. Oh, coconut chop strategies stick in my head. I think he was. Six. He was the last remaining a member of that row to four alliance. The final five. Was of course in the Leah. Sean Pasco and Kathy. So he was the last one out before those five to eat each other. So you get a point there. It's five to four. Rob you need to get this one. Right. And you're gonna get this is a great one survivor Fiji, Stacy Kimball. Boy. So. Okay. Just working. I know that. So she's not in the final three, and then the disease how man get to the final four, and I feel like that. Blue is there also. So they got three them those three and. I don't feel great about this one. I'll say that. She is six six you should feel great. You get the point there. You're tied five to five Yana. You could win the game. Here if not we will continue and we're going to go to survivor Palau, Greg. Carey Greg with three. Jeez. What place to Greg? Gary coming in Palau. Okay. So. Yeah. The strategy is like, okay. Who is the final two who's a final three. And then try to see if I can remember what? Oh god. I think was I think Steph Grosso went out right before head. But I think she went out at seven maybe. Okay. I'm gonna say six six. Okay. We're the win. You're saying six the final five in this game was Tom, Ian, Katie, Karen, and Jenn Lyon. Yes. Greg Carrey was six so you get the point here and your favorite one of your favorite numbers, one of your favorite two digits. You win by score of sixty five. Wow. Wow. Game. Hey, how's really close? It's hard to win. When Liana throws a perfect game. Is that I don't know. Is that the first perfect game? I guess actually, I guess an actual perfect game. It's good as you could. Five most guess, I'm gonna win usually. Yeah. I mean, I guess real perfect game would be robber to get his to his two questions wrong without hearing the multiple choice Liana stole both questions. But that's really hard to. That's like dependent on the other player. But yeah, this is the best you could do without without rob letting you point. No, I think you're definitely better than frail Mary at this. Those are fighting words I like that. Yeah. Rob will actually to buy rivalry for me. I honestly though, I didn't know the worlds apart question. So I got lucky with and the Panama one like, I know Panama like the back of my hand, so those, but you know, yes. Thank you. Awesome. Three time winner. I three time winner in intuitions twister, trusted, my gut. Just said Sandra on the the first chance. That was the difference. Liana we've already found out a long time ago. I can't say I remember who it was. But we've found out who the first survivor you follow on Twitter was who's the most recent survivor. You follow on Twitter because we've done this game with your ready. Yeah. So I do embarrassingly. Remember, the first survivor, I followed. It was the jar neck Myra. Oh, I feel like you're not the only one who's had that. It's. But no, I have I have no idea who the most recent one. She think I'd remember. Well, I think if if our knocks you review this latest follow I would give it five stars. Ron clark. Ron Clark your in survivor Twitter. Follow. Four dog dog is the second most recent friend. Not really lacked. I wanna know his friends. Are you standing the Kincaid baby? Also, you will you ready you've been? Longer than than, Robin. I was part of my conditions on being on the podcast. And we're now I need to have a some sort of like reason for caring what the outcome is. Like, I can't just make those two stand something crazy. Story. Followed followed Brian Clark because he tweeted that he was going to be re releasing the essential fifty five rules his book that you wrote. And I was like perfect. So let's hook up, and I'll give you my rules, and you know. As long as round husband is also there. That'll be the Denham to the wrong. Clark rules. I thought it was a really good cross promotional thing. We do is that why he's releasing because he has all these new rules now because he's very popular TV show and thinks he's going to sell more books. Yeah. So Liana is going to be joining us again. Rob McEwen you podcast this weekend to help us out with a win shut up. Tim's money. That's right. Yeah. It's gonna be interesting. I haven't received the format of the question. If you've got any fun quizzes this weekend. Liana we got some more always here for marquises bring it. Although I think I get to host this one. Right. So I don't have to answer any questions. Okay. Pretty good with answering the questions. I don't know if complain about Leon. I've got an out of context Rick Devon's quote for you. All right. Let's do it. Finally, reached for the gap. And I'm just feeling feeling feel something solid very out of context. Yes. Well, now is that him during his time on the edge of extinction when he was sleeping in the shelter next to Chris Underwood. Was searching for the idol. Honestly, it could be either one don't know. I wish it lets us a reward he found the idol again. But I think he didn't wanna wake then done. Our breaking Rick Neville, strict news. All right. All right. Well, what what a great this week in survivor Liana. Thank you so much. Congratulations on your big win. I can't remember. I'm sure it's happened before. But there's not too many times where people got every single question that they were asked right. Maybe Jenny oughta just got her two questions. Right. And then we didn't have to play the bones around. Yes. I think that was the first time that's happened to you. Yes. You've done that to other people. But I think that was the first time that's happened to you. So yeah. A lot of people making history on the this week and survivor history quiz very much down for coming in later in the season where there's less people left and less things. I have to remember. Very much on board for that. Okay. All right. Well, great job should've listened to Liana on the arch. BNB Liana anything else that you're working on? Yeah. So in addition to the NBA, and then, of course, guessing on this week we have Rupe halls drag race coverage that is going on. So ordinarily, it's Mike bloom myself and Brent Waltham on all getting together to talk about season eleven which is going on right now Michael will be out this week. And so we're sort of scrambling a little bit to find a guest host. Or may it might just be Brenton. I in Taylor. Yeah. Hey, jordan. You wanna come on drag race? Do you allow people who have never seen an episode of the show? Come with a fresh perspective. It'll be it'll. Awakening. We'll do. The whole episode will be Casuals corner with Jordan down for us. But yeah, there was a crazy episode this past week and some like serious Riggott tree potentially. It was the internet is up in arms, and I'm actually really excited to break. It all down. Okay. Of course could follow Jordan Kayla on social media as well. Jordan. What do we have coming up next week on this week and survivor? We have another return guest some someone who is looking to get into the this weekend survivor history. Mount Rushmore, Shannon gates. We'll be the guest. All right. So a jam packed week. Coming up on the podcast again. Of course, all this podcasting all this nonsense made possible by the many patrons of rob as a podcast. So you find out more about everything that we're doing get our patron only podcast feed and become part of our rods podcast patriot community head on over to rob as a website dot com slash patron. Be sure to follow the greatly on a Boris on Twitter as well that she is the one with the king cake baby in her header at Leon. Boris. And then her is this your pin? Tweet of Julie's husband pushing the kid down or the top tweet. Just my top tweet every tweeted serving winters. Running running running. Yes. It's great. Yes. I realize I should probably the Kentucky Derby is tonight and the Julius Julie's husband and her son were running like horses and the Kentucky Derby at the beginning of that video. I was so good with my tiger. Woods prediction. I'm predicting game winner. Six to one odds. He is like the fourth place in odds. I don't wanna get the favor. That's boring. So game winner in a win the Kentucky Derby tonight. Let's just happen. Is that what you're doing? I know I think it starts like six thirty. Okay. All right. Not to my knowledge. It is not happening. I'm going on ESPN dot com, and it has not happened yet. So by the time this air, the by the time this is supposed to have happened. So it'll sound pretty fishy. If game winner wins. But I mean, it's in his name. They're giving us the answer. Okay. All right on sorry. Sorry to be subjected to the Jordan's Kentucky Derby picks on the pie. Of course. That was six to nine odds. I think on it with Duffy. All right. All right. Thank you. All right. Take care.

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 6

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 6

"Mars cubes keeping a beach close enough. So that space between you and me. Lose the way all dance and sway into the muse. Edgar they body and how you move and every time you cross my girl. Losey Alexa, play the country heat playlist. Okay. With Amazon music of voices. All you need get tens of millions of songs. Download the Amazon music app today. Some game, right. Offense. Oh, you are a. Day. Awesome school. You are. Teams boys and ghouls welcome through the audit shape, e boo and boo. I'm your host, Mike blood. All right. Get out of here. Nick Wilson get out. Gotta you gotta you're a rockstar to to go practice with. Hey, everybody. Sorry about that distraction honor of the late in Holiday Inn, true being beef fashion. We are behind on the tread the real Mike bloom. It's here. Talk about episode six of survivor, David versus Goliath. Thank you all for staying past that horrendous intro for those have really been through the first thirty seconds. We're here to break. Everything down on a really exciting panel here. Let me first introduce our spring loaded killing machine Liana Boris Liana. How are you? I'm gonna say we'd better do a better job on this podcast and the brownies did on that Amir new challenge. But I think what the intro we've already lost that. Okay. That's fine. We can dump as much water as we want. The the wells already drop the liquid our listeners. And I think we just I I was the Mike why just dropped completely and it's still diverse. Jeff Brooks is freaky out of a we're so happy, no matter who might be listening to be joined by this guy, if you are an international survivor listener, he's no stranger. You have heard him talk. Endlessly doing this fantastic coverage of Australia survivor champions versus contenders. They just spent the past few minutes feeding vegetables to each other over our respective microphones Nikai danza, welcome back to the BNB. How you doing? Thanks for having me goes. And if you went hemorrhaging listeners with that introduction. You definitely go to be hemorrhaging listeners because people have to be listening to voice again after very long and winding stralia and saw apologies old you out there who have to hear my voice again. But I'm so excited to be. He lost having me. Yeah. Of course. Well, Nick, I guess we could just like cut straight to it. Because you had a really interesting sort of jog o- across the sea, basically from covering, Australia and survivor too. You know, I think we were Australia survivor NDA to concurrently with David versus Goliath season going on so sort of what was your transition from Australia and survivor back into the American version? And now that we have sort of have officially ended the pre merge structure of this season. What have your thoughts on it? So far. It's funny because like the second civil of US of office season of the year, I'm always soil like hesitant to get involved with. I just feel like gone through this like months and months of strategy and survivor that just goes way too long way too much, and I just had being JAT like these Halloween kids just like binging out a way to much candy, and then Americans have office, and I just like need to take a break because heroes healers hustle is odd didn't I didn't listen to the I didn't stop that until about five or six weeks. And I've binged it, but I got started on me. I watched the first episode I was hooked. So like, the usual curse of straddling survival. Keeping me away did not keep me away. Because this has been really really really fun. It's so fun for this coast. Actually that should be the new metric of how good a season is like screw ranking. Screw whatever it is that people wanna use like, well, Nick happily watch this then. They're all in Las trillions survivor. That really is the true metric, exactly, right. Exactly. Right. So good. I I'm loving it. Like, the absurdity of some of these like votes, and of some of the topics that had been brought up jacket, gay, and everything is just that's why I love civil have it because it's you can never predict what is going to be the topic. When throw people together like cave is always blindsides alliances. But it's these random stupid things which just make my heart sing, well Liana. What did you think about this most recent episode? I know that I put out the call on Twitter to to rank the pre merge episodes, and I know that ranking can be arbitrary and reductive according to other RHA podcasters, but I figure, you know, why not I would say that for me at least this was still a good episode. There are a lot of positives. I wanna talk through and did end up sort of six out of six by default just because the other five before where so much fun while there. Were on moments. I mean, it's always going to be tough to come off the high that was jacket gate, and so it was always going to be a tough act to follow. But I felt like this was pretty straightforward in comparison to some of the other episodes, which I would say maybe had some higher highs. What do you feel about it? Yeah. I think interesting because from Natalie's boot which was if I had to gun to my head rank them, which I'm not saying I would. But if I had to Natalie that boo would have to be number one. So of course, you're going to have a little bit of a drop off afterwards. But I think what I really appreciate it about this episode was the fact that going into the immunity challenge. I honestly had no idea who was going to go to tribal council because we got to see a little snippet of the dynamics and setting up a potential boot on every single tribe and just from an editing perspective that was something that I really appreciate it. Once it turned out that the purple tribe was going to go then it was a little bit more clear. I think although for me, I was still questioning. Rob is the one who talked about this whether or not Mike was going to pull himself from the game. I had that first. What's second? But then I think you know, it sort of became a little bit more clear to me that was going to be the boot on that road. Interesting. Because I I was I was not so clear on the outcome. I I personally thought it was Angelina. But I think what what really Angelina Jolie that's so clear on the outcome of that. I love this. I love this. But I the thing that really did it for me was my favorite part of the episode. Honestly was this host immunity challenge? Pretrial council stretch because you know, I feel like Nick user taught this, but the international seasons this year how unfortunately they do to the American game structure nowadays, we're sort of deprived of what it's like to have like four or three people left in the game. And how they sort of figure out the MacIntosh voting for each other. It's very rare that we still get that an American version, but because at this job any tribe was down to only four people. We've got some really interesting combinations of. People. I know it's been mentioned before. But that scene where you have, you know, Mike talking to Lisa in the water while a stone's throw away, you have nigga talking with Angelina. I thought it was just a really nice counterpoint. And really I thought it was going to be Angelina going just because you had my going back and forth about these things. But I thought actually the most gripping part for me was just as Jeff sending the energy challenge. Sometimes survivor you had nowhere to hide. And it seemed like what has issues, unfortunately, is that there was nowhere to hide there were only four people. Definitely a definitely thought it was Angelina going home. Like, I was so sold on that. And I was like really surprised about well as if we're losing Angelina and Attlee before. The merge portion of an I was like totally ready to beer in feluccas so much longer because she was just going to slug through. So I was really surprised and I'm not down on this episode, compounded. The other ones I actually really enjoyed this. Because I knew I go to come on and talk about it. But like, I just really I loved I loved them in the water talking to each other. I love when it's like full people. And it was just like you two people go off and the other two than the to Pez switch and then the those two people go off. I was the smallest trauma. I was a pup trauma five, and it's very very weird strategizing on a tribe of five people, and I can only imagine how we did. It would be judge is in trouble full people. So I I was all in on this episode. Yeah. Strategizing with that's people. It's sorta like a key party or like everyone's like, oh, I picked yours out. I guess it's our turn to sort of have a conference and everyone else to hang around and do whatever they like. Already. You get to throw you coconut keys in a bowl. And then you pick it. That's what Barry's had was four, right. We had talked about Barry anymore. It's easy on a try a small small trod. It's just really weird because like you so sketched at your real sketch bowl as as Nick would say, you know, you always think that any moment someone's going to help out of the bushes. But like when this four or five people they really on like you can clock where everyone is and keep track of them pretty easily. And it just makes it so much more fun being dead knowing that you actually can have those conversations, and it's going to be like shut down at a moment's notice. Well, yeah. Because literally at the beach, the two pairs could see each other like we could see them in the background of the other pair having the conversation. Like, it's very clear who's talking to who when you only have four people on a tribe, and you you'd have to assume that there's some sort of level of understanding as well because these are also for people who are pretty big fans to a certain extent, even though Angelina is a recovering bachelor addict. I think that there is a certain like a nod between everybody to be like, all right? We're going to go strategize. Because it does seem like this was. Group that end maybe said a bit differently in my in my view with her that she wasn't necessarily going to be Jeb Benny strong. But I think they all at least had some dedication to each other that this really did feel like a heartbreak loss. I mean, Mike white the guy who was talking about like slitting throats. Mr. reality TV veteran was besides himself after the challenge about actually getting rid of someone which was another interesting sort of element as well. I forget it. I think this is Josh maybe talked about this on the wiggle room. This week about how this season is really playing up. I guess the human element in addition to the strategic element. But I feel like we are we are pushing the human element even more than we did in previous seasons. And we see here yet again when we get to see not only not necessarily the emotional ramifications of playing survivor, but the emotional ramifications of voting somebody out, which we get sometimes we got that during the Stephanie Johnson boot and ghost island. But otherwise, I feel like in modern survive rates. It's a general understanding that that's how the game is played that it's barely talked about on screen. So I'm always grateful when we really. Tap into that, emotional qualities, even if some alumni, you're saying, you know, crybaby island park too. I personally enjoy it. I think actually that's interesting because the one I'm thinking about the three sort of scenes that we saw before the immunity challenge where Elizabeth her sort of freak out was sort of sold to us is this strategy sort of thing like it could be my God, the alternative against Elizabeth. But are really was in emotional thing. It was like her. Oh my gosh. And her can we just talk about her faces dinosaur. Dinosaur faces. So good hurt. The I don't do well with lazy people dramatic sniff s and stupid people, which is so good. And I love having that in there. But then it's still put in terms of strategy. So I feel like I'm getting both. And that's what I really appreciate about the season that I feel like it does that it really can mix the two together. Really? Well, yeah. I actually went to it reminded me of when she when she was making this like when you used to teach the movie black swan like the point we'll let the watts one is transforming into the black swan. She's making these really we'd body movements and let knees bending backwards. Like I was expecting like Elizabeth skin to just like Tara PA. And misled we're this thing, but burst at and it was that was trauma. Just like keep it in keep it in keep it I to stop down for a second. You teach the movie black swan. Yes, I'm going to very liberal school say like they get into some pretty lascivious stuff there. I mean, I it seems like a little bad for me. I'm nearing thirty years of age specifically when she was like, ripping her skin off. I'm like, I don't know about the fifteen year olds are really getting behind Darren off ski. Definitely go up behind that one scene. Wait. I'm sorry. I want to go back to this concept of Elizabeth being a lizard person. And. Behind the man. Crazy. I lose it. There. We didn't even know it the entire time. I can imagine she gets the final tribal council, and she's like, well, y'all can't believe I made it. It's an ally must finally reveal who I truly add my name is Dr the lizard people. I knew it. Yes. And then it'd be like now Cana does Elizabeth winning the game ruin the game for the rest of the lizard. Another person be taken to the end and win. This is the new thing. This is like the new Jeremy revealing that he's having a baby like forget that like reveal your lizard, the fun of Trump. And that is how you Elizabeth thirty seven hundred thirty seven terms of winner ranking should only one can she revealed? She was a lizard person at the end. Really have to just count her winner when because of that because on lettering. Took us a few minutes post vampires to get into the insanity. That is Elizabeth is a lizard person conspiracy theories of what they're going to be a record ten minutes. And we've. What's getting into her usual fare here? Let's go back to Lisa, and let's talk about how we thought Leon. And I thought your said what do preseason now Lisa general reception behind her was working fun character? Sometimes doesn't do well and survivor. Indeed, you know, every tribal council she went to she was targeted. She was the cat with three lives that expended them. All liana. What was your personal take on how Lisa would do preseason? Okay. So I did have Lisa going pre jury, and this is what I wrote. So Lear says here to play the game. And while her daring game play is exciting. It alternately leads to her downfall. She found herself in a tight alliance early and she loyal until the pencil vote turned on her allies. The now I- conic pencil vote causes her alliance to call her a can of dirty backstab and vote her out of the game. Lisa leaves the game with a positive attitude and returns to kick boxing undergrad that Ponderosa. Oh boy. I don't want us. All right. Nineteen year olds come in. You know, you want an internship, but this girl's gonna take out her anger at her tribe. Members by kicking you in the face. Yeah. So you'll you'll predictions just get more and more oddly specific. This is not how you win goes. This is the this isn't me. Okay. Focus for a second. Like, can we speculate? What this pencil vote could be or is there a pencil vote that we just haven't given a connotation to yet that's trail like what was the pencil? But I don't know the I said she loyal until the pencil vote. So obviously this had to have happened. The I can't be wrong. So when did she turn on somebody was it, Jessica, I guess she was trying to save herself though. I have no idea how to make sense. So wrote her answer with a bird. They do they write with pencils. They're like little chuckle. If they want with pencils, Aubrey what have done a much better job and co wrong. So I don't know necessarily true. Shop either they let rep would around. So try to make it look like it's a piece of pulled out a fire. Right. It's like, oh, yeah. I've no idea. But apparently, I also wrote that her closest ally was be probably because she was kickboxing undergrad so total swinging miss on that one. It's like, yeah. Oh and worst enemy Elizabeth or Elizardo Beth is you well, so really knocked it out of the park ear. Well, we'll see how it compares because I lear- some making the jury I was one vote on. So so close I said that Lear says shirt will somehow stay pretty pristine throughout her time in the game. She came in with like, a pretty white Hawaiian shirt. It's not as grandiose as Alec Murli knows. But it's still something to be commented on I said Jeff will call her out in at least one swimming challenge. I said it she and John Hennigan will get along prompting a funny picture when it comes to size comparison. And to her dad's consternation as she will get blurred. At least once I think her debt her dad, if you remember thought she was going to go on naked and afraid. I also said her closest ally. I would be I think I think it really is kick boxing connection that just never came to fruition. And I said her worst enemy would be Jessica. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, I when you first said blurred. I thought of because. Way too long to figure out what you were talking about. Like, I don't know gives a new definition to blurred lines. Don't call Robin Thicke on this one. I'm waiting for a one off to happen now in the next few weeks called blurred lines about if Davies Google if Davies throwing fishing lines are like throwing a pick up lines to people I feel like blurred lines has to be a thing. Yeah. Blurred line if someone gets on and wins with that like you need to get credit because that's that's a really really good audience. I'll take the brim of the wombat. I'll that's that's my compensation. That's like my ten percent. All right, Nick, so gut slim Pickens here, but which which which pick we'll have the other person's saying excuse me. Well, I was going to say off to hearing Leon. There's no way she's winning. But I got to say on nj leaning more towards towards Liana. I think that you definitely. Definitely, I don't know. I feel like the fact that you had going mach that you had to go into the jury just kind of really threw me because I'm never would have predicted that until maybe like a so that she was getting this close. So I'm going to give it to. I feel like maybe this is sort of like, I guess the meta of how we approach things at least from my perspective. There are I would say at least three or four people where people are like. Nope. They're never gonna make it. And I would say at least one of them always able to slip through somehow like last season. I think you could say like Angela is a good example where I think it have come up bit stern in the preseason. Where people like oh God. No, she's I gone, and you sort of like learn your Lauren. Remember, I was a good example to from from thirty five. We're like I feel like there is one exception to the rule only one slot of like a preseason doomed person is able to make their squeak their way onto the jury in hopes that it would be Lisa I will not reveal who my other preseason. Pre jury were. But at least one of them may throw onto the jury as a result. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out who like that's left is like an obvious target. The only person I could maybe think of is like Gabby. But even that like, I can see I could see a world where she makes it the. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm really enjoying the people that have chosen the cost is yet this season. So like, I'm genuinely interested in all of that. And my Winnipeg with Jeremy and like, and that's probably the worst I've ever done. So it's actually the fact that I didn't even care that he's gone because there's so many other interesting people it's very good for the season. It's very good one. That's also what makes it entertaining for me is just having people that I genuinely care about I care about who goes home, you know. And that naturally makes you more invested in the season. Just quick question. Do any chance that Natalie Cole gets invited back for another season. Well, choose one of Jeff Probst players to watch. I would say there's a difference between Natalie Cole getting aspect and Natalie Cole deciding to go back 'cause I reckon because I think that the from her approach in my exit interview with her she was a bit skewing towards the Foley angle of I'm a little angry that I was edited in this particular way. And it seems like Natalie also is sort of like my life is fine. I don't know if she necessarily feels like she needs to go back feels like she has unfinished business in any perspective. So I think it really depends on how she feels about her depiction, and whether or not she wants to maybe that serves the chance for her to redeem herself and say, I want I want to show them a different type of person that the Jerry Mandy style of doing it. We're might just her the quote, another Goliath saying f it and say, you know, what I think I'm good, but just one and done survivor. I could see it being someone chosen for like a second chance poll. TSE hit. I think that makes sense that she would be somebody who would be considered. I think what would be interesting to know, though, is because she had such a positive fan reaction. But it seemed like she didn't really know that or that was how it felt in a lot of her exit. And yeah, so it's sort of as time goes on maybe she'll realize that people really really enjoyed her on the show and would want her back. Maybe that would help if Mike your prediction is true that she may be hurt. She personally. No know, my actions are not true at this rate. Okay. Well, I guess I'll run it through the and we'll see what we got. That line. I think honestly, it's all about she needs to embrace the memes, and I think she has to a certain extent. But like Angelina I thought today fantastic job embracing the means to the point where like she actually turned into charitable work. I don't know if you guys saw this last week. But she's like, hey for those of you that were tweeting me to give me a jacket. You can go to goodwill and actually donate a jacket. If you want to use it send send me a picture of it. And all you know, I'll send you something. I think that's like I do like the goodwill can actually be born out of the means. It's very rare on survivor, but I kind of feel like especially nowadays Natalie needs to like a embrace the jen's e population of it, all and just buy into all the fantastic names that have come out of the reign of Queen Natalie. But I feel like it's a lot easier for people to embrace the means who've made the merge the cream. Who's me Mable? Yeah. I just feel like in my in my personal experiences savant of the people that don't lie. They have a really tough till? I'm like with the off to the often math, and and really kind of like separating the positive from the kind of the silly and the negative and stuff. But anyway, oh, well, well, Nick, we as per usual. We have each bringing a discussion question about the episode the season survivor in general to throw around the panel. What goodies have you brought in your after the fact trick or treat basket for us? This episode. Okay. So I thought this episode like was interesting. Tens of you watch the two challenges, and you listen to Jeff's commentary, and I feel like Jeff is just like getting so shady lucky he loves like, you're really hacking into the to the trial out there at one point. He was saying it looks like there are two tribes. You know, how to play survivor at one tribe who doesn't even know how to begin like survivors one thing carrying a giant disc full of water is another. So he's really really like right Riemann on them. And then he took all the Hotz note in. And then they just get the performance to match and then even said like day seventeen a day. None of them will ever forget a day that will live in the don't don't make this the Pearl Harbor of the Betty tribes. So I got me thinking like Jonathan was was vocal during the offseason, but he was still trying to find his face. He wasn't vocals audited have too much experience with a host throwing kind of no shade while you're competing, and it made me think what would be the most demoralizing thing to hear during a challenge by the host. Oh my gosh. Well, that actually reminds me of when Natalie was blindfolded at during that one challenge and Java's another it's not going, well or something like that. I can't imagine being blindfolded knocking able to see what you're doing and having the host berate you for doing something wrong. Like, you can't even fix it. Because you can't even what's happening. Like that must be terrifying. I love Jeff during this challenge because it was very like this Neagle and Ghalem parts of his producer persona. Whereas. Jack Benny, we once Japanese to lose, oh Pechiney has so much heart loves the job any they've perfect Davidson is so like you can see a man torn in that moment as to like what's going to make the best TV moment. And he started real sour that came around to sweep the end like look at them. They're not giving up even when they literally gave up. They have given up yet. Of felt like to me that he was like, all right. I'll just take both approaches. And then I can just pick whichever one in the way they want to they can trim out. My main comments like the actor like, okay, I'll give to pasta. I'll give two different takes us, whichever one you want to and then we'll use as a professional at this point. So I guess maybe for other challenges, and they just don't show it. But that memo. The night it to the editing bay through it all in there. Now. Just looks just like this complete Jekyll hod moment of what she missed. Although it wasn't really waiting for something the David versus Goliath EM Hake. Even though they kept going even though took them four times kept spilling water much like David spilled water or something that like Jeffrey understands the David Goliath story that would have been great. So your question. I mean, I'm not going to try to tech chino check too much into like my therapy conversations that think about what's the most demoralizing thing that someone could say this, buddy. I don't know. I guess what? Do you think strikes? Most at a survivor player and makes them feel the worst. Could he compare them against player other players like previous players, but he'd be like you're doing worse than MRI with a broken leg from San Juan del sore? Like is are we going in that direction? Could be could be definitely people there worried about is that they like edit is worse than the other person. They're going to get shown in a negative light. That could be a wow. Like, this person is really mock is really really struggling to do something Liana would never struggle with carrying that disk. I think my favorite ones are when he's really close to them physically. Like, he's not just giving commentary from faraway when he's like right next to them when they're doing the puzzle. I think that because then it's like drill sergeants sort of yelling in your face. You're trying to do it. Like, I can't imagine. That added pressure of him being close to you would also be so intense. All right. I got it. I think I've found the perfect solution. How do we feel about Jeff Probst doing your momma jokes? Oh my God. I see that with tenor. Of course, what have you go on your mama's so bay we have to dig deep twice as much to get her in the sand. Oh, yeah. Anything about people's family like, whoa. That whole that is note that you'll family you're gonna be so disappointed in you. What is the choking? So we're just coming off of Halloween. So we're talking about people fears of clowns, spiders, or whatever, but really like being ashamed and really being shamed. In front of your family like, whoa. What does it the Tyson? Always says it's public shaming of that has to do publicly. Shamed. Them. Trying to cross a bridge in slow wannabe unit. Couple of months watching this bag with your children. Magin how they're it's your family will be hoped. Your life is getting another apartment to live. Like, you better watch any close male friends. You have I think that like Jeff can do is. When you ask family members. Like, okay. Do you want to be this person's loved one say, okay what I want? You to do is send in a video reaction a one really happy. Like, Jeff doesn't the challenges. Give me two takes one really happy one very disappointed in angry. And maybe what he does he gets out one of these. These cheapo depot phones that they pump pimped out on previous seasons. Like the spin sprint palm pre. They're like Elizabeth. Here's your daughter, very sad in in your performance in this challenge. How does this make you feel? Komo going on. We'll be great as then you bring up full circle in the family. Visit happened. I'm be like, so, and we have, you know, Jessica sister coming on Jessica, you would not are just gonna sister. You would not believe how bad Jessica did in this challenge. Terrible. Let's go the tape. Yeah. They did that with a Colby and read the need. He say something to read about like he's been like this the whole time. Just because. Anything that he could like the so many ways that you can just demoralized people out there and people already just add their lowest like, Jeff like we didn't need you as well. What what what would Elizabeth have done if like coup Vuko lost that reward challenge? If Jif was demeaning them while it was going on like I can't do this with his frigging head off. Lizards do ran off. Bush got into a little spice you've flown away to let the planet. Glacto exactly. Even though I don't know she'd seems like if her black doors mission is to eliminate humans or study their behaviors she might have accomplished the former because it seemed like let's get to the Elizabeth stuff. There was one point when she nearly through Carl into the fire with her gargantuan bamboo sticks. She was dragging back. Did you guys see that still good? It was so passive aggressive. It was like I'm trying to build this shelter and take this bamboo, and she just like soli shoves him in the fire, and he's like trying to dodge it is it sort of knocked them from the knees. Oh by Connick. I love the if Elizabeth is listening to this which I don't know if she is. I absolutely love Elizabeth she's the best and I'm so only Elizabeth trying but I'm gonna say watching that shelter thing. I wanted to weigh in as a place always play Wayne about these shelters. Okay. Okay. When you go out there. Right. I've been preparing this because it just cheeses me when you go out there in terms of making a show tub. You think you need to make his show too? Because you've watched survivor, you know, that that's just what you do. In the first episode the first couple of days, it's something that the whole team can get behind. You don't need to make show to the bottom. You just needed make his show to the top on the first fourteen. I twelve days of my season, we slipped on these lugs and these awful, I really super uncomfortable shelter. And it wasn't until I was sense the other trial that we would just like hell, and we just slept on the floor and it's freezing on the flow. But you can get around that bus stopping so many palm leaves and just sleeping on top of that. And I think the thing that people just do it because they think they have to when you watch the first episode of like heroes villains. The villains aren't wasting time making his show too. Because they didn't care about like looking like we got together and made this show too. And they know that you don't need it. So it's just like. Just like just make a roof and just sleep on the floor say the backside the Thanh save the potential of throw accidentally pushing you try made in the file with one of the beams and just sleep on the flow. Paypal would to the watts so but the ground gets cold. You're just saying you just deal with it with the palm like just like just keep ripping off old leaves palm leaves? Bush's just everything and you lay it on the sand. And then you sleep on top of those and it makes a really cushioning comfy bed. I had like so many great sleeps out there. Once I slept on the floor. Okay. It's now. So like, the villains were Nick were like, I don't know you and Craig doing this seesaw coach and Russell were doing and building the shelter. Yes. We definitely try that it didn't work because you're not a true Valen. Yeah. Exactly. I I was. I was I thought with the other thing the Elizabeth moment is that like she could have had like that admission that she had this back thing. And that she was really saw that could have been a moment that she used in a way to kind of get people on his side. And it could have been like a really touching moment that was unifying, but it just kind of felt like the coach she kind of lot bottled it up for so long it just kind of exploded out, and it became a really negative thing. And then people aren't going to come on your side about oh, well, let's just go to school back on stand. They're going to be like great. You got to sell back back to because you'll fighting with them. So sometimes it's better just to kind of like the honest and let that like don't let it simmer away for too long. And DEFINITELY DO not start taking the show for Paul on your own that is a bad bad mood. Well, so I guess my question is so it's not the problem that she did this. It was sort of the approach to it that she sort of just. Let it sort of exclaim out all at once rather than just sort of admit over time. Like, hey, my back's been killing me. Maybe it was she wants to get far away from the Pat incident to bring up the backstop because that just traumatizing the other interesting thing that I felt from this edit is that we were only really getting reactions from the other two David's on the tribe. And I don't know if that was to sort of put forward this narrative. Oh, the Dave. It's my turn on Elizabeth even though they have a majority. But it is interesting to me that like we didn't hear we heard narrow word from Karen nor Alec about their reactions to Elizabeth shenanigans with the bamboo. Well, no one knows what Alec was doing. But definitely care CARA. Cara CARA era. Okay. Sure. Was just so happy like we saw her confessional. She was just like I'm gonna stay quiet because they're fighting. So I think that's probably why you can see her in the background. But she's just like not tangle word and just staying very, quiet. So yeah, I think it was over the Dave it's going to turn on each other perspective. But she seemed happy about the whole thing. Would be I can't tell Tara is the luckiest or the unluckiest person on survivor because she was the person who was dead center when Jeremy and Natalie were going at it on that sandy hill, then she's front and center again when Elizabeth Dave you're going back and forth where it's just like, I'm not a I'm not a wacko. And he's like I didn't say you were a wacko. This is a half day job at cetera. So cameras unintentionally become like the defunct row audience member to all of these wrestling matches ironically enough, none of which feature the actual wrestler on the show. That is actually what you want to be you won't be the witness. You don't want to be in the middle of it. And I wish I had lent that. We'll speaking of the wrestle. Let's move onto our first game here in honor of the triumvirate that has come to light over the past few episodes from the TV tribe. This is going to be a game called know your broach show. And here's how it works. The great shut up Tim, and I have trolled these social media's of the members of the broach os. What I'm gonna do is. I'm going to provide the wording of a social media post. You were going to buzz in and say, which of the broach shows said that quote, if you get it, right? Get a point if you get it wrong. You don't get a point. A Tim has suggested for your buzzers Liana say, bro. Ana. And Nick say either Nick, bro or brick so I guess pick your poison there. I will take brick. Thank you. All right. So I will read a quote, it's up for grabs. Whoever wants to buzz in. I guess if you get a right? You get a point wrong, you get zero points and all the answers are going to be the name of a bro Chacho before we get into this. Nick, do you have any opinions about the broach chose that have come to prominence over the past few episodes? I love the dynamic between Joan and Christian, Dan. Like we could do that day. No, no. I think that that's fair. I will say the one funny thing about Dan was it was I think it's what Alison and Gabby. We're talking and then it was like cut to Dan, which is like big stick just like smacking it against doing nothing. This is the purpose of this that made me laugh like him him then. But then it was interesting because he's yes, smacking this caveman esque log against tribe flagpole and then cut to Christian who's like breaking twig over his knee. Just tastic timeout literally David versus Goliath, and I will say I liked the Phoenix other seen it because it might be the most homo or erotic thing I've seen on survivor and quite some time. I think John and Christian realized that as well because you know, as soon as one person said as soon as they both realize that it was the first time they were they'd ever fed someone or been fed immediately like start blushing and talking at the same time sort of like stumbling over each other's words. It's okay. It's okay. Also, I don't know if you guys caught this conversation, but it was John saying, what makes dancing cool is misdirection. He's comparing dance to magic. It was like, I'm British magic dancing. And then what was that? He used the moon. Walk the moon. We that's why dancing. Because it's misdirection. You think you're going full my God these back. I guess I don't know. I'm just by this logic. Hey, John thinks that David Blaine is the best dancer of all time or be things. Michael Jackson was an amazing magician that just nobody knew about I'm trying to imagine someone watching that and going that's what I need to do to not in the club. And then they go to go out, and they'll Jhansi and I'd just like throw a gloss of the wolves. Misdirection? Then just like you're just dancing like imagining like dancing with somebody at the club. And all of a sudden you reach behind their their ear plot. You're like a nickel. Out of your sleeves those tissues that just like keep going like. Like. Gonna win this dance. Start doing the Macarena and then at the dove spla- out of the. Yeah. I think we're stumbled upon something here. You know? I think that. Put on your mic white fedora and hit the club with with a rabbit in your hat. And I think you're ready to take on the town. All right. Well, okay. This is good. Yeah. We we took a big misdirection before we actually got to the game. So let's dancer way back. You will vote. It was about a game. But really, it's a dad dancing. All right. So let's let's start off here again buzzing when you think you have the answer. Also, we'll start off with some pretty easy one some layups. If you will these are the TV S cancers, my one hashtag SICOM wish teach everyone the importance of models in science EEG, muddle, Organon Ephron, I. On a Christian. That's correct. The full one my one psych hashtag SICOM which teach everyone the importance of models and science each model organisms and modeled problems when it'd be so easy to smear fruit fly research and laundry folding robots. I thought when you said modal we were talking about, Dan. And then I got distracted. Okay. My bad. Good. All right. Let's let's see moving on to question. Number two. If I keep finding idols I'm not gonna have any room in my pampered, Nick lakes. Break going to break. That is correct. The full tweet. If I keep finding idols I'm not gonna have any room in my pants for the other, quote, unquote, idle, okay? We. I I'm trying to figure out that means to give it to down there. And they're still Rome. I don't know if that's a is it like an insult like insulted himself. I feel like in some way. All right next one here next week smiley face on at impact wrestling, I. Liana john. That's correct next week smiley face on impact wrestling, I defend the title against a sociopath at real killer. Cross scary when someone uses their intelligence to excuse decisions that they are smart enough to understand are morally wrong early scarier for the sociopath that when my foot kicks his face glasses emoji. Christian. What is this about next week uncivil of it? He shouldn't just knew right next next time on some of it with its grueling. I don't know who real killer crosses. Yeah. Either. Next up Leon is ahead. Two two one live from the flight deck, if it isn't just that will. No idea just wants. Just want to say the word brick. Yeah. Yeah, christian. I'm sorry. That is incorrect Leon I'll give you a chance to steal here because Nick buzzed in prematurely. Live from the flight deck, if it isn't an F fourteen Tomcat, but it's still pretty shit. Hot. See you topside sixes clear, Dan. I'm sorry. The correct answer is Teri defeats the original shot show. It's all about misdirection, Jordan. What is this? Listen, I said, no, you're broach. The Roach is we're going to be from this season. So yes, Terry has joined the fray, okay? Why those funny? I was like, oh, that's funny 'cause Terry deeds. Okay. Okay. Well, it's obvious. Joe is Joe anglin option. Then. All right. So that was a bit of a goose egg. But let's move onto the next one. And see if you have luckily on as a head at two one over brick sometimes you just need to dive in and get a little wet. Rick Rick, Dan, that is correct of remain. You really don't like you really have is tweets thanked. Well, I do I do follow him onto. I haven't seen any of his tweets from this week because I've been pretty pretty lazy. But I do know that he loves a photo of him like in the shallow luck in his underwear or shirtless peaks. And I assume that that's one of like him. Himself in a hose with like a sunset and adobe behind. That's correct no dog, but it is him in a woman sort of like notebook style like embracing each other while they are sobbing wet. So I think daily day was actually the most adept of all these people for all the cyclones because like that's just as usual photo. Shoot weather. Yeah. Sorry. I'm busy checking his Twitter. Keating on the game. Just other reasons. All right. Let's move on. Let's evily on us distracted enough for this next tweet row. Parentheses Alex's, bro. Like Smurfs use Murph. Ronna. Yep. Liana on that is correct. Did he say, Alex? No, he said, I pulled the Natalie and accidentally. So it's such similar sounds the right there on the tip of the tongue next to each other, Alex. Is he saying again Alec uses bro likes? Mercy's murph. Okay. All right. Let's move onto this next one hosted without comment, and it's a link to William shatner's performance of Elton John's rocket break, less, Nick. Christian. Yes. That is correct. Oh, good only. Because surely the bro bolt signs kinda Roquette. No, you don't feel like Christian, honestly, talks a bit like William Shatner. So I wouldn't be surprised if he basis confessionals off of shatner's performance of rocket, man. Oh, man. Okay. So I actually had this random thought when I was watching me episode because I was watching the way the Christian moves and sort of the way he speaks. I feel like mimics the way he moves it. He moves in such an interesting way, but he designs robots like he does bio McKay for robots. I was like how maybe keep moves like his robots or maybe he's designing his robots wrong. Because I was like. Oh, man. He is a rose. I got I can't wait for final triple council. Here's what's going to happen. It and and Nick and Christian there and says, I am galactosyl lizard person. And Chris says I can do better. My name is Christian bought four thousand. I am the first Android play survivor. The Nick says, I'm a vampire, and so like you really have to choose who's the lesser of three evils out of all those. Yeah. I think I'm gonna give lizard the lizard book. No way. The listen, listen, listen, that's how you'd be elicited. A and the fun of trouble. The and has to be listened book. This sounds like some really weird version of rock, paper, scissors like vampire versus robot versus lizard person. Vampire, carry fight. The lizard, the lizard kick feet the robot. It's a work in progress will be playing it next week. I'm sure all right. Let's move on your all tied up as we move into these last bunch of questions. My thoughts on my game. Hence, far and hashtag tribe TV at survivor CBS smiley mode of con- smiley, motor con- Brig. Nick is a Joan it is John. You're Craig John is a is a fan of the emojis. I don't know if that means him in Mike white bonded, very easily. But yeah, that's that's the pension on social media. But what are now the emojis? I was it was it was a link to a video one of the secret confessionals Ray talked about it was actually really nice confessional last week about how he felt like he was pretty well connected with basically everyone left in the game, which we'll see if that bears fruit come the merge time. Good. All right, next one. Did you hear about the guy that got hit in the head with the soda can dot dot dot? He's lucky. It was a soft drink. Frick, nick. Is this like a Joe anglin tweet Osama? No, not a Joe Anglo tweet. Liane? I'll give you an I'll give you a guess. I let second I thought I was like, oh, this is like a Rupert, but tweet or something. This seems like I don't know is Malcolm an answer, Malcolm, always tweet stuff like this. No, I'm sorry. It was not, Malcolm. It was Dan Dan, took a break from the sexy photos to post a dad joke. Get you a man that can do both. But you, and I should be fans of the dead jokes. So this is exactly what's so much raining. What's dad to be joke, though, is that a special like bridging joke that we can get. You have to whatever it is. But you're doing it sopping wet. So it's kind of like eight halfway between being young carefree bachelor and Hof way between online non cool debt, daddy's are fully wet, but daddy's to be or just moist. We feel very uncomfortable. All right. Let's move on to our next one. We all deserve pancakes and morning sex shrug emoji. Oh, my. Nick. Fully. That's dan. That's correct. Yes. Most of the twenty sure these tweets were one right after the other so doing his expanding his brand. He is trying. He's trying to get so much like so many cheeks if from this, and he's putting in the. Good on it because it's a fulltime job trying to keep up with your social media presence. And if that's what's important to him than will done. I just like casting a wide net though. Like, he's gonna get all types of women's I fear. What happens if Dan Mason to the day thirty nine breakfast? And what people expect to the people that he's with. Well, we got one shrug emotion. Talking about the most homo erotic thing you are Mike. All right. Let's move on here. Just watch thirteen hours again with my kids. No explanation needed. Break nick. This John had kids John? Nope. That is incorrect. Liana Gary that is correct. Those like, oh, Terry kidding. Eighteen hours is a take on one hundred twenty seven hours. I dunno. It's the John Krimsky thirteen hours a secret soldiers of Benghazi. Right. Did not see that. So well next time Terry comes on. Only watch the real housewives of Benghazi. Which is also thirteen hours season. All right. Let's move on here. This is a bit of a long one. It's incredible. Just how much people take for granted in life acknowledging support everyone who helps you get to where you want to be extended hander to while you're at it. We all could all use a little more, positively and integrity in the world have an awesome week guys break, Nick. Jill egland. I'm sorry. Not JoAnne, Guam Liana. That is correct, Dan the onset. Dan. We did wonder a lot of Dan bootie for this for this quiz. Liane is when we finish. This Leon is going to go and plunder his self a little. Fully Amy below him. Know me all too. Well, nick. All right. Let's move on here. Only two questions left and we're tied up right now. So even after I applied for survivor dot flow. Now for interviews went through months of medical and psychological tests. And finally was told I made it after eighteen years of dreaming break, Nick Christian. That is correct Christian had a nice fun. Little like eleven tweet thread going on after the cast was released or when was the season premiered about his sort of anxieties, and he talked about eighteen years of dreaming. I still worried can I really go through with this, which we we saw partially sort of fleshed out when he finally got his big emotional scene. This week. I'm shocked. It wasn't Dan wishing for eighteen years. Eighteen years. I've wanted pancakes in the morning, and I won't do it supping with by my calendar covered and syrup. All right final final tweet here. Liana you need to get this right to tie it up. Okay. Cake veins. Brought yes, John that is. What? That me and things. So I believe his new wife had a birthday party and one shot was of these wrestlers like holding cake and their veins were so prominent that he had to tweet cake veins with about six exclamation points. That is the give a tiebreaker round that does involved. So first of all, I go cake vans because I was curious and. Responser me on Google was from a website called cake central. It's a forum for making cakes and somebody posted help Venus on our veins on penis cake. How to do the realistic is that a win by dago rent? January underscore rendering. Pena's geic. Oh, that's so funny. People have some people responded with answers. So and how do you make cakes for everyone out? Did that wants to know somebody was like a thin ropes of Donnette say. Yeah. Yeah. Or? Make sure your arcade tea is as smooth as possible. Any of that means t boy? No. Onto a small subculture. I might not be interested. All arcade, t what's coming up for me as an airport. So I don't know. That's what they're referring to. That's right. All right. All I'll bring up a Raynham tiebreaker here. All right. I want you to each write down your answers closest without going wins. How many followers does Daniel rendering on Twitter have? Oh god. Remember, this is the guy who became social media famous with being the hot cop. And he's trying to expand on his brand. No matter what whatever whatever messaging is there each write down your ankles. Let me know when you're done. Okay. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. All right Liana. What did you say? How many followers? Do you think? Dan hats. I said forty thousand Nick, no way, no way. I think he wished I think he wishes yet forty thousand five thousand so you were both over, but Nick was much closer Dan has three three thousand nine hundred and thirty followers. Way. But I thought he got famous for hard Cobb. They did not translate until the survivor game. Apparently, it was a flash in the pan much like cakes. I think that the word famous I think he uses that very liberally. Famous with air quotes on track to Google the picture the picture, and like I couldn't find it. Does anyone know exactly what he does? They don't seen it. Have you seen the pitch? Yeah. I remember why I remember when the picture came out. It's like them. He's like looking at the camera. It's like a bunch of guys. He's like kind of on the like not that this is helping any way me describing a picture. You'll never see I'll end Dan's in the picture. I don't know if you know this. There are some cars. There's a building behind him. Like a swat team. So congratulations, Nick, you have known the most about the choice shows even begrudgingly for one of them. This may I think this makes you an Honore broach. Oh, please accept this offering of spoon-fed pancakes from Dan. It would be my only only way dripping wet when we do it. Cake vein. Oh, you just send me the pitch. Is that to pitcher? Yeah. He's like cut off in half of it. He's not even the main. God that's true. It's sorta like how you know. I don't know if it's sort of like in Dreamgirls, when you know, they point out like EFI was the main girl, but then they said, no, you know, what this girl beyond say's character. She's the one that's really going to become the star. Like, that's sort of what happened to the other two got Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland out of the hawks. I wonder what they're up to now probably putting out there. One of them redneck island, the other ones on like ink master like they went on to do their own reality shows. I can't believe that that. Yeah. That's that's really underwhelming. He needs needs to be fumbled pancakes and a lot more sloping with. They were in a hurricane some surprising. They were not that wet. Yeah. Yeah. They're all dry. What is this? Well on Dan hold on forgetting to with. With what was a four thousand. Yeah. Near us. So he might depending on how much people are interested in the wide swath. He does with his tweet whether you like dad jokes are talking about morning sex at Daniel rendering is your place to go. So we'll see in Bubba about the four thousand by the next time we come on here. So I have a question he gets hopefully forty thousand. So I have a question segue in back to the episode proper because I was so interested by the strategy that Mike really vocalized from the perspective or his personal battle was. Okay. The decision that I make how was this going to come across to the other goliaths? He said in a confessional that keep fell to the foul. The yard long stairs of of John Alec and the others. You know, when he came into the reward challenge that we thought maybe I should stick with Angelina. And I think there might be a stigma out there about people saying, oh the merges coming up. I wanna make sure you know. I don't get people mad at me. But I guess my question is is that valid? Because I looked at bit into some historical presidents as to you know, in the past survivor seasons. When have there been, you know, post swap, but still pre merger votes that really have substantially affected people on the other tribe and made them think about things differently. And honestly, I can only think about a couple of instances. And I don't know you guys can maybe fully and a couple that missing. But like the two that I'm really thinking about our markets from survivor good bone, which elicited the gift Pearl heard round the world. But also firmly told those onion alliance like, hey, these people don't wanna work with you. And the other one going all the way back to survivor marquess when he wasn't the last pre merged bu-but when Gabe went home, I know that that relates substantially affected Pasco and Neue and Kathy. And that's what sort of got them a bit separated from the road to four. So it gets I'll throw out the question, especially since Nick you have experienced this firsthand. You know, when you come into the merging and see someone like Phoebe is being voted out. Do we think that there really is an impression that's made from? Watching the other tribe come in and seeing the particular person that was voted out the night before right before you get to the merge. Is Finally I was thinking about this. Because I think Robin Stevens spoke about on the nodoze that like we just queued to make these wool reactions. But I think we are. But I do think that the biggest thing is not as actually why that person was. But just the rampant speculation the speculation can just go so wild that you don't want to be at the center of people trying to feed a narrative like, for example, when Phoebe was the person who was voted out just before we merged that we all were speculating as to who it was going to be now we merge dried away, and it was I to be clarified for us. But had we go back to camp. We would have had so many aspersions about all this happened. And that happened that happened and then in the crucial couple of Allah's will that crucial morning BA full, you know, you're about to merge, and you. Sitting up everything you're getting all your ducks in a row, you get your ducks in a row based on what you think he's happening at the other tribe. So it can actually be really really bad for you. If people stop putting in their plans, ready to go by stone something today are assuming and I feel that would make a really big assumption on okay, it's Angelini was gone. This is one plan, and if Lewis's gone, this is the other does that make sense? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely makes sense. I guess I was just I was thinking from Mike's perspective. And I know that we have more information than any of the well, potentially any of the players. But if felt like why did Mike wanna stay genie or Goliath strong because it felt to me like he was on the outs. So I was like I didn't quite understand why he wanted to keep that majority together. Anyway, I almost felt like cut to the David's then stick with the David's then you can flip back, and I don't know. I felt like there would be more of a. A road. But obviously he made connections that we didn't get to see for him to want to stay Goliath strong. Right. Well, because I know when I talk when Italia about this is an interview with her she pretty much refuted, the idea that the six was actually a thing chief said that like they have the three girls at definitely talked and they sort of each brought in their own spokes of the wheel, but that will very rarely spun especially when they went to one vote. So I totally do buy into the fact that I think Mike makes has made a lot of personal connections at that might be another reason that he was totally fine getting rid of Natalie because he did he wasn't really that close with Natalie him analogy definitely had a bad beef, especially after she was the one to push Jeremy to go. And so I think otherwise maybe he was just a little hesitant to really pull the trigger and get rid of another Goliath like he was fine getting rid of one stray. But now he has his quote unquote core group that he wants to go all all all in on. Yeah. And I guess if he wants to set up sort of Nick to what you're talking about like if he wants to stay Goliath straw, like at that's what he wants to go with and sending that signal that that's what he's cool with then. Hopefully that'll send a sign to the others. Even though I think that majority of them could probably agree. Like, oh, yeah. We understand why he got rid of Natalie like she was annoying race, whatever they want to say, but getting rid of Angelina doesn't have that same. There's not that same feeling associated with it. So we know that we approached us from the Mike perspective. But I guess let's sort of flip things around and talk about it from the Nick perspective because what Mike feared Nick is going to have to face. Right. I mean, I guess you could sort of slide by with the use of like, I didn't want to draw rocks. But still he voted out a David when the numbers were seven seven. Do. We think there's going to be any real consequence. Again. Like, I said this has it's only happened a couple times in the past despite this abject, fear. But do you think there's a chance that Nick? Could have some David's coming down on him for voting? Lisa. I really I really think in this era of survivor, the original troub- formations really met too much. Like, I think that they matter on the surface, but I feel like in a couple of votes time. It definitely went meta. Like, I feel like it might do do not to get you in hot water for the first one or two votes of the merge, but I'm not too. I wouldn't be too fussed, especially when there are three tribes, and they've been in three Trump's full a few votes now that there's been enough time to make bones three different groups of bums. And I just don't see see sticking together along David Goliath. Lonzo I really don't. And I don't think that I would be as well. They did they see ghost island. They saw like or five episodes. Maybe. Okay. So that really see the home Navidi strong thing actually conned of like, you know, being storyline and Moton survival has. Really been too much of the original tribes seeking together. So I wouldn't be too fussed. If I was them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I definitely think that with all of the sort of all of the tribe divisions. But because you also had Pat and be leave the game. I mean, I know that they're losing some time because of the storms and stuff, but I feel like it's happening really quickly and the number of actual votes because they've only voted out with five five people. So I don't know I almost feel like it's excel A-Rated too. So you don't even you have less time almost to build bonds. So I think it's going to be really fluid when we get to the merge, and I think we're gonna see these smaller pockets, that's what's really going to drive the voting in once we get to the merge, I think any larger block there's too many fractures. I don't think it's going to happen. So you think this is going to be a very voting block every season or voting brick? Correct voting, bro. Ana thank you very much. Yeah. I think so I think I can't wait for this next episode just to see how all the groups sort of start to come together. I'm really looking forward to it and everyone's been to a tribal council, which is a rarity. I feel like in modern seasons of survivor. So we might not get like Jessica Johnston or the or, you know, the Kris noble voted out their first tribal council where they didn't really get away to land. Everyone sort of has been around the block at least once. So it'll it'll be interesting. I think I agree that I think this group especially is going to step up a lot of things they're not afraid to make the game. Play more Connecticut even early on when there's big groups of people. So that makes me hopeful that the post merge is just going to be as fun and fancy free is the pre merge. Benny fancy free. Okay. Speaking of fun and fancy free. I have the honor to be here with two expecting fathers, and we have to play some sort of baby shower game. And I started pointing to baby shower games, and they're all super weird. I do not want to play any baby shower game. Can you describe what they are? Okay. We'll have either of you had did you? Well, I guess Mike you you're less far along. I did not have a zygote shower yet. No. Christmas or something? Just my my wife is actually now I'm just looking for decorations and stuff the baby show. She didn't want to have one. She heights things like that. She heights games with the baby show a game. So broad Osho a games. So we kind of like strong Ontario to actually having a baby show, but they definitely be no games at it. But I know all the bunch of games because just from what my sisters have told me, a well, Christina said, but the ones I liked with a smear different foods into nappies and people have to Smith the nappy and then figuring out it's pain up or it's curry why would you like welcome to my putty sniff. This nappy. Yes. Oh my God. It's called. Okay. This is the game. 'cause I googled baby shower games. Okay. So this one is called dirty diapers next. Exactly. Like, you're describing as okay you take like melted. Chocolate candies or lake some sort of Bill creamy nutty. So yeah. And you put in the diaper, and you're supposed to pass around the diaper, how each person snick and live lick the gooey Poos centers. Like, no, you're don't want the term DUI PU center out in the universe. Oh my God. There's another one called guests the mothers measurements. And I was like unacceptable. That's that is wrong. Guess and guess the fathers measurements. Talk about sympathy weight. Yeah. So we're not doing that. Okay. Good. There's also one way you like if it's like a broad like a coed broad show where you fill up like little like dummies with lot beer, and then the dads have to like chug through a dummy like throat start through a bottle. Just so dumb. Oh, man. Okay. Well, maybe when we have one in person someday. However, we will not be doing any of that I decided instead to create a baby name game because I want to be constructive and help you both pick maybe middle names for your children. I'm glad you conservative instead middle not I yeah, I figured that. That was going to be a really long shot. This. Maybe I think actually this is part of the contract neck by green to come on the BNB you actually a forfeit the middle name of your child. But really the Rumpelstiltskin of our podcast. That's totally on. Because like on the on my podcast this year. There's been so much discussion of what's going to be this baby's name. The winner of the Danzi apparently got the right to name the baby. What was the other thing? They go to do a be a be the baby's godfather on. There was like a basically knew that being podcast, and you'd be signing of a semi ruts offspring. Exactly. Well, and it continues here today. So. And but Mike, you're also obviously, I mean, I just assumed that I would get to name the baby because as your co host, but I'll settle for this instead. Yeah, we'll we'll see we might do a middle of first hybrid like Mary Kate. Well, speaking of that what I've done is. I've actually created portmanteau 's of two first names of survivor thirty seven contestants. So these the names neck and Mike you can pick from. So the way this game is going to work as I will list the name and then you'll buzzing so Nick if you want to stick with brick that's allowed if you wanna pick something else more than two I definitely want to stick with stick with Frick. That sounds like a really terrible campaign slogan. The. But when from anchorman decides to run through well that's going to be Nick when you run when you run against Christian for comptroller of slam town USA stick with brick. Can you explain to me what a come troll is? Because that is definitely a thing in the stroller. It's like an accountant. I thought it was something way way cooler than that. Like, I am comptroller. You will back down to me ironically enough, even though Christians running for it has nothing to do with robots. Come Schoeller is a controller using like the Houston like financial matters. It does sound like RoboCop though. That's why I thought Waymo boring than I thought it would be okay. Cool. Okay. So I'll give an example. So for example, I might say the name cats. And then you one of you would buzz in and that is a portmanteau of Kara and pats, although for some of them, there are multiple names will also would have accepted Carl and Pat or Christian and Pat cat, so. Okay. So we both ready to play the game thing. What's you'll buzzer? Bryk? Just to stay with the theme here. I think it's perfect that works for me. Okay. All right. So your first name is Mimi. Me. Great thing me. If I. Bryk this week. Okay. I think actually heard Mike I I'll say Mike and be. Okay. I will accept that also Mike and Jan no no I want it said that what are we talking about? It's Mike and Jeremy Ono travel. All right. That was another practice. Okay. It's very late. I'm being on. Because I thought it'd been many. Menial because I was trying to make them normal names because I care about you guys. And I didn't want your baby is really him. Yeah. Plus whenever you look at your child, you can think of Mike white end, Jeremy, and that's what everybody wants to think about and they look at their offspring. Okay. All right. Let's move on to our next one. Dan. Gee, isn't that? Break pryke. Yeah. Mike Gabby and Dan. Yes. That's. Jan jan. Like like, I'm like G A N like take again this person. He all my. Yes. I also thought you just said, Dan, come very computes. Oh, I got for my example. I was gonna say so you could have the name Carl which is a portmanteau of Carl in Christian. This is like. Oh my God. I've been at a conference the past two days. My brain is so shot. I wrote these talks so. I was here. It's actually know that the portmanteau of Davey, and Dan, I'm sorry. You're both wrong. Okay. All right. This one hopefully will be a little bit more clear. Okay. Beers. Nick pre. Yes. Lisa and be. Yes. That is correct. I would love to cool monkey beer. Girl up to be like some sort of alcoholic really disciplined. I don't know. It is a little on the note. Like, it'd be like my name is beer says. So I turned to the bottle. You are what your name is. My name's beer Cy. I only drink hard alcohol guy said screw you dad. I'm not a beer. Kid, a why? No, okay. All right. You're next name is let. Lick. Yeah. Lisa, nick. Yes. That is correct. Oh that could have been Knicks alliance named for him in Lisa now lick on. These are also could be couple names. So I would accept that as well leak. Like, okay. Karbi? Nick a break. Yeah. Neck. Carl and Gabby. Yes. That is correct. Also would have accepted car in cabbie. Okay. I'm gonna really enunciate on this one Jearl my break. Right. My I'm going to say, Jeremy and Carl. Yes, that is correct. Girl. That name. We'd us if we use cubby, and then we add beats names that is will cubby isn't that like the referee cobby? Yeah. Cardi B, but like car baby. It's like the knockoff that you find out. It's all through solar storekeepers card even coming to the stage car, baby. She who knows what her legs are gonna earn Nurmi's. They're going to do this time, and she can stay at the Cobb Embi. All right. Perfect. Okay. So it is three to to Nick is currently winning. And our next name is. No one knows he recovered from your Gand miss half. From damn gate. Attack in gate. Okay. Here's here's here's another one. Let's let me and on to gas. Right. Right. Right. No. Jessica Jessica by that's what kills name was. Cabbie, jessica. Yes, that's correct. Okay. All right next name Dahbi Reich Nate break, Mike. I heard my I go with multiple options here, but I'll say Davey and Gabby. Yes. I also accepted, Dan and Gabby Jay like this fun Davey and gatty would be an that's why I picked the to. And they'd be a very interesting mixture. He is. He is a loose cannon. And she is sort of there to pick up the pieces. Oh, it is this a couple or like a weird cop show loose cannon and the straight edge partner there to pick up the pieces. Yeah. Just just sound like a good pairing. Gabby. Okay. All right. You're next name meth boy. Oh, yeah. Knock an Elizabeth. Yes. That's correct. I think we I think we've found it the perfect day for much stop it right there. Okay. You could leak myth together. Lake meth bloom come into the. Oh. Beautiful. That's not your child's name. Then I've failed you it was a podcast there. Okay. Well, we have one more name now. Nick, you have won this game. Mike, I'm sorry. It's an impossible high was the true winner because I found a name for my unborn child. Thank you very much dead lick math at call by two one day. He meets beer. Car BP beer, so please, please please invited to the wedding of lick pa- method, bloom and carby beer danza. So good. That's so cute. Okay. Well, don't count your eggs before they get bacteria because I have one more name that you might wanna use. Okay. Your final name is Jessica. Oh, God homeboy frying like. That's my I'll say, John and Elizabeth. It also accepted, Jeremy and. So this is one of those ones around like sitting there in the talk of this guy, who's like so well renown I mean, he's like won so many awards amazing scientists and I'm like. Just like a potential Nobel prize winning scientists giving a talk, and I'm just like a message is so oh my God. That was so what about Jesus math just really just a meth jizzle. Myth beer. The beer says sounds like I don't know like an antebellum southern name. Like, imagine Colonel come home. We're above deal. Why jizzle? Beth appeal. Okay. Great. Well, if you ever, you know, get an a time machine and go back up on years, you can name your kid just Beersheba. Yes. Exactly. Guttering McCain green. I got an antique them both. Thank you for coming up with those because you know, Christina have had a bit of trouble trying to come up with a ninety despite all the help with the podcast. But one of the things that we because everyone we keep people keep suggesting Fanilo as the person who was on. I really love the ninth Fennell, but we caught him at a rule like no one that's any note with these is. Well, no, one knows any survivors and said we've chosen a gills name. And then we realized that it actually is a savant of that has this name, but complete noteworthy. So I feel like when when if we have a go, and it's announced having this going out there. People are going to be like you said that it wouldn't be savant. How day you forget the, blah blah, boot from whatever country, but. Flocking now, I can completely move away from that and say Honey, we don't need to use at any time anymore. We've got a whole nother set. He and that we can choose room. So thank you. You're welcome. May I show you meth? No one on the internet will be mad if we may market Gand drool. From world jer the Rudjer gander. Okay. All right. Well, that's all. I got. Okay. -gratulations Nick, both the baby name and a win at the BNB. Thank. Okay. All right. So I was actually thinking about this other idea that I had I couldn't figure out how to make it into a game. But I wanted to ask it as my discussion question for the week. So I love Christians tutorial on spearfishing. Yes. Because I just also I love that. He brought science into it. He was like you have the potential energy and then kinetic energy. I e stabbing. And I just thought it was so fun to hear him talk about fishing. I think he's got a real career if he wants to start a YouTube channel a he could teach so many different things. So what would you want Christian to teach you because I think he'd be a great teacher? So this is this is what I was thinking. This is going to be my discussion question. How can we get what other like every day survivor activities? Can we get Christian generate in a highly scientific MENA? This is just. We're right there. We we both love the nine Elisabeth. This is. We're in the Puckett it's read on it. So it could be I was thinking of survivor things. I could also I was thinking like I think it'd be fun to watch him. Explain bowling. For some reason. I don't know why that popped into my head maybe because there's definitely physics involved. But also the bowling there's something humorous about Christian teaching me bowling full. The the thing about this deal. The scientists like we'll see correct in his in his discussion of of how to use the spiel. Yeah. I mean, the potential energy kinetic energy potential energy. I mean, it was definitely correct? I don't know if anybody in the physics field would call Connecticut energy stabbing. Certainly in. This example, how it came out potential. Energies wanna rollercoaster goes up the hill. Connecticut injuries when the roller coaster stabs into the rest of the. Right. Or it's like, yeah. Potential energy is when you swing the bowling ball back behind you and Connecticut energy is when you slam it into your leg because you don't have to control that just like or because you're wearing flippers wearing back I'll give out to any Tonio Massaro who a while back said that Christian was a human Ted talk. And so this is basically over getting firsthand I would like to see Christian describe the voting process. He'd be like when you when you walk which is a form of a form of movement. Then you uncapped the pen on due to gravity, and as the sense of ink coming out of the pen, the ink kicks play onto the paper and the sense of permanence. Make sure that is written down in full. Love this weird Christian slash William Shatner, impression listening. I'm also doing robot arm. So my I'm sorry that was so good. We only to acknowledge how could you a Christian? He also said some incursions said he was just like, I'm a cool guy. And for some reason that SNL skit with Steve Martin, Dan Aykroyd like to wild and crazy guys like that my head. And so that's what I was picturing. Also, it was a very confusing moment for me. So you'll wear that to go to the club. And then that's when you start pulling out the magic, that's where the misdirection lies. Exactly. Well, actually, so DJ Lebel Klein message me and had some other ideas that were very similar because he was in gang. We could create a whole series like this like, for example, you can have Matt from the Amazon teach you how to sharpen a knife. Like Gillian could teach you animal tracking like match like. All right. Just a nice bleed in a nice. Let's just keep going. Ever. Sure. Like animal dung, just Adam of that. I would like to see Jen teach us how to bury a dead bat. Like what's the best way to kind of give a random animal? Barrio purpose end of create your whole pet cemetery. I can see this like survivor to'real YouTube channel where it's like I'm James I'm going to dig a hole. Well, that's that's a that's what James and Russell actually. And this is like our Ted ex talk version survivor. Ted ex. Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, we'll keep thinking I just think this is an idea that really could could evolve into something, I'm just I really let's market. It's marketing whenever lawn when when he was doing it was we just told you about the flippers. And it was like every step was a blow to myself worth. Just just just the personal ego agony. Although it was nice to see he talked about like him becoming a Goliath. And I was like, okay. Well, that's allowed. According to Jeff Probst like that is the one you can go from David Duke ally without backwards at least Christian was in the right there. Yeah. No. I think in order to become a delight. Don't you have to be kind of a weird guy who likes egos peppers like Dan did? Like, oh, man. I'm starring. Hey, look a small pepper. Let me bet you a kit. Eat it. This is nowhere near as good as morning off the pancakes. Whereas. Boy. Well, let's move on here. I'll put a cap on that maybe we'll come up with some more Ted ex talks to tout out my Christian impression. Some more over the course of the rest of the season. Let's move on next. Big tech. I'm one hundred fifty to two hundred percent satisfied with those talks. Let's move onto the final segment of each every week here on the bean beat a question of the week last week question, they'll begin honor of the napalm Natalie, but we were deprived. We only had two voting confessionals where she decided to mock someone's fashion choices while simultaneously build them up. I think someone put it really nicely on the feedback show last week when they said it was a compliment open face sandwich with there's no like complement an insult. So we give it to you guys to create a Natalie esque voting confessional. The discusses a previous contestants style. Choices as usual will go through some of the answers that you the listeners gave and then we'll give each of our answers. Let's start with drew per toldi. Stephanie Johnson your leggings are glowing darling. Like actually glowing. They're hurting my eyes. She that pale. I mean, maybe just because it was legs legates lugging the florist leggings. I totally wrote that wrong. Chosen Patrick bulletin. You're gonna pick. We're talk around. All right. Yeah. We're cochran. Yeah. Exactly. Ten has a couple here. I he says two savage congrats on making it to the jury darling, which is short, but sweet. But like a nice nice. She would say that to Andrew savage. Joke. You'll beanies Nuss reservoir. And then she also said she actually had one four Angelina does. She get her revenge. You'll that burning sensation that's the Natalie. Napalm hope that keeps you warm at night, stay chill, girl. Very good. Jonathan Troyer says hope this move is as big as your cert g C seal later. GC yell later. Like, it was also. I think it was. I think it was we should give them give Jonathan credit there. He did ride later. So it's multiple folds of jokes GCC because for those that don't remember g c from survivor Gabon watching the game with a giant lime green polo. That was about three sizes too bay. Like, he was Tom Hanks at the end of the movie big. Yeah. He brought his own tarp in polish or. Us you'll be competing full atop N GC's second shirt. What could you imagine? Like if Angelina existed down like I gotta vote out g c shirt off his back, literally. G c g c. Always paddling away. Got like when he did before that immunity challenge. Let's move onto Parker Schindler who says Debbie, the only thing that would make you more fierce and caddy would be if you killed that tiger yourself. Let's be honest coach probably work together on that one. Yes. I'm so happy w bathing suit brought up. Yeah. And finally, the Melissa pot to Stephen fish back. Your hair is moldy glasses are poopie Santer. Also poopie I like your intestine I mean severe gastrointestinal distress. Darling. Who needs luck at the end. And he's like some sort of like little. You know, what's what's it code a little Honey or a dulling? Yeah. The one that came up with was routed, your dot Todd is to die full, Honey. And then just like slam the pay down into that thing do a bit of a clicking Z full nation. And the you shuts Jessica so way back down to the stool or snapping an end formation. Natalie. Okay. Some buying. Because. Okay. So Natalie said in her confessional for her voting conventional for Jeremy was get off my island. So obviously I row in for Troy Zan get off my island, by the way, you're green monster is gorgeous. Natalie. No, Natalie and that apparently because I was I guess on a game changers. Kick also wrote one for Brad Culpepper. Take your decorative hanging balls back at Florida, I like your burlap sack dress. So what about we can see your decorative hanging bowls from? Denver. The sack can see your other sack. I came up one with one of four Jonathan Penner says take your wack ass fruitcake. But Dorka and get yourself a new knee in Lyons. That'll take you to the final four. Bye bye, man. Love your Wilson. Blue eyes though. No, no, no. That's what Jeff Probst is going to say to when he's really trying to get his goat during one of the challenges. Did you notice that I enjoy Lena, I'm during the slathering accomplishments? She gave to Nick talks about his Wilson. Blue eyes. Yeah. So because the Nick Wilson, I assumed it was like, oh because Wilson's there's there's a Wilson's disease. Did you ULA? Yes. I've go- goals of Wilson blue eyes because I was stupid a Wilson's disease involves a mutation of the gene coding, which prevents copper within the liver from entering the gold. Yeah. Press and cells, instead the copper accumulates and delivered and other tissues, including the iris of the eye. It doesn't like yellow right? Because you have the iron accumulation there or something like that. Yes. So basically, I in one form Angeline is referring to his last name in my virgin, she saying he's jaundiced so pick your poison. Yeah. This is Christian explaining the come in in scientific terms. This is perfect for the YouTube channel you see when you when liver enzyme rather enters eight think of it like all the next roller coaster effect where the comforts. Up into your eyes end. Wow. Wow. It's like a trap there. Like, it's not there. I'm realizing that I'm Mike Christians combining William Shatner with Jeff Goldblum. And I think that's the perfect. Yeah. Well, I I I thought it was like oh the Wilson sisters. We all know musical artists Wilson Phillips. Yeah. There wasn't scissors. This part of Wilson Phillips, obviously, they're known for their is justly, obviously, that's very true us. So the question of the week or next week? We're going back actually to the very first episode to round out the pre merge here since we know the contestants pretty well. I want you guys out there to nickname a survivor contestant, Mike white style, which is talking about them through reference of a TV show or a movie like when Mike referred to Christian as big bang theory. It can be a current player. It can be a past player. But this is a chance for us to put on our Mike white fidora's and take it stab at Robert Downey, junior style, referring to people by pop culture. References only. This is great. I did this in the first my first ever confessional. One of the things was what do you think of the other contestants and Oz? Talking cat who had arrived caftan and had this giant hat. And I was like, oh, we've got the real housewives of Samoa here and that will win gonna be able to play, dammit. Oh, dammit. He couldn't get the rights to say. I dunno. On a different channel you got to be like Carlin like make a reference to a pod calf. Not even realizing it on the episode, and we are super excited to be going over these answers next week. We're bringing on a very special guest for the merge episode of survivor, David versus Goliath. Jessica McKenna for those that don't know, Jessica, she's a person who very much frequents the ear wolf podcast network of podcasts. She hosts a podcast of her own called off book, which is an improvised musical podcast. You actually did an episode about survivor. She also appears commonly on comedy bang, bang, improv for humans just a whole slew of things, but she's also a huge survivor fan in her own, right. So we were fortunate enough to occur on the BNB. So she'll be here next week joining on an I in all the madness that'll be sure to come from the merge, if you're excited if you know, Jessica and you're excited about her appearance. Feel free to tweet at her at just our McKenna R M C K. K E N N A and let her know how excited you are for her to come on. I certainly am aren't Yuliana. Oh my gosh. Yes. I am super excited. Also, not to change the subject, but Dan ring Garing on Facebook has fifty one thousand six hundred sixty four people liking his page. So I think I was just. On social media. He's like the Facebook, mom famous. That's a good game. Who's more blame as hot copper to buckle? Mom. The classic game. He can definitely play that with just just your way. Your way next. You're ready. Hope you're ready for that one. We'll Nick thank you so much for taking the time to stop down and talk through with us about you know, again, it was only I think there last deep dive for Australians, forever was only a few weeks ago. So we appreciate you taking a short time off to make your way back to us up before we ended up finishing things off would you mind giving us your thoughts because this Australian survivor pertinent news this week in that they officially announced that the theme for season four of Australia and survivor, and we are going back to the well of champions versus contenders next season. I know it's like very tangible to American survivor, but for international listeners that are keen to find out your thoughts. Do you have any initial reactions to the the announcement of that name renewal? We'll all obviously. I needed to do was coming back. But I was excited that it was coming back, and whatever it is. That gets a straddling Volvo on on. I've said this this year, I'm more than happy for whatever. It is is that we get some other. And look everyone was super sketch sketch bowl on on champions versus contended and it turned out being really really good season, especially in the post mood. So I think that what they've done is that just going back to the world. So that I can kinda like keep the numbers growing keep the average viewer interested. I thought that I was going to go for some sort of blue Kulla, no color or something like that. But the problem is that ustralian sa- they wanna have two tribes only that want to have to troves of twelve. So you've really got to try and boil it down just to kind of like the two tribe dynamic, and I think that look I'm I would prefer to be something else. But I tweeted this the as low as Jonathan the is back and they've saw him back on as long as he's coming back, then they could do like potatoes. This is thirty bags of laundry like Auden. Okay. Give me whatever it is as long as GOP's there. I have faith in the system. I have faith in the show, and I'm just going to reserve judgment until I've seen if we and I know that people are complaining on lawn just lie that complained about Las season. But like they're gonna everyone's going to watch it. The fans are going to watch it. It's going to be good it. I have faith in my channel ten ogled. So yeah, I think that's sort of a little bit of a like reaction of like, oh, no they're doing that again. But I really really liked this past season. And so until I'm proven wrong. I'm going to go into it with an open mind. You know, of course, there's a lot of concerns. Okay. Are they going to be able to, you know, have a good cast because I think that that was what was really nice about, you know, some of the champions was that they really were there to play. So I am reserving judgment until I actually see it. I'm looking forward to it. I mean, I yeah, I agree with you anything to keep it on the air. So I'm okay with it. I'm I'm super excited. I also especially because now that we've heard that New Zealand's of is being. I wanna hold that you want to hold onto that you say don't leave me. And I also think that I mean, my hope and my expectation is that they also taking a look at things that might not necessarily worked with the format last time specifically challenges the challenges being so physically waited literally you'd also saving swap for, you know, two votes before the merge, even though they did mix things up properly at the merge, it could become a very easy situation where they could just one group could just picked off the other. So I'm gonna sue them. Now, they're going to make things in the premium specifically more chaotic they might say like the post merge, we can sort of leave on touch because they the castaway so remake their own chaos from that perspective. But I if they go lame to sort of actively worked towards improving that pre merge phase. I'm personally really excited for it. Yep. I think that it was it was a hard slog for the content is because of the physical aspect because of the camera time aspect because of the, you know, the storytelling is told through the people who the audience already kind of knows. And and I feel like if they if they can address that. And if they can fund some really dynamic people again, I think that I think that I will do a good job. I feel like what will happen now is now that they've seen some of these celebrities or more well-known people do well and have a positive fan reaction. I think that what this. She is a couple of celebrities come out, and maybe nominate themselves and say, hey, I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. And know would you have me for the show, and, you know, people do that I'm a celebrity get me out of here, which is another show. That's on people do that dancing with the stars. And I feel like it would kind of be the same same kind of thing. And and if that means that we get people who came to get out there and play the game then coup. So I'm positive. All right. So Nick to find out your musings about the 'tatoes size vs, dirty laundry. Anything else around any version of survivor? How can people follow you on social media? Yes. I was just at Nicole danza on Twitter and Instagram. It's the same thing. And I c k I d ended and yeah, that's what you can find out. Exactly what I've called my baby in a couple of weeks. Yes. Stay for that. We are waiting on him and meth Natal's. Dammit. I was gonna say I'll be weighted with bait I'll be waiting with baited breath. The lose your much on the same page. We'll how Liana how can people follow you on social media to find out? All of your thoughts about the world of reality. TV in the world outside. Yeah. When I go outside I'll tweet about it. I'm on social media at Liana Boris L I A N A B O R A S and feel free to send me any other baby names that you think we could include for either Nick or my baby I will collect them. And then of course, send the finalized binders for you both to choose from. And I will put that in some melted. Chocolate in a nappy. And we'll see what we did. With eleven knows the exact rules of how to play lizard versus vampire of this rowboat. Let us know because I'm super game. Yeah. We'll save it for future iteration when you come back on you can always follow me at Mike bloom type checkout. The interview I did with Lisa parade. I mean, her personality shown through was really excited to talk with her about how she fell actually in relationship with the Rockstars her thoughts about the beginning of the game. And specifically, you know, she's a very unique personality that comes from a lot of different communities and talking about the reception behind that counter really nicely to some of the social. Media stuff backlash that has occurred against her for the past couple of weeks. So be sure to check that out. I cannot with the interview with David Bory honest for seal team, I talked about in the Big Apple circus for parade magazine as well. I got something for Star Trek coming up next week for Hollywood reporter, so a bunch of random onto smatterings out there in the universe with my content over the next couple of weeks, but I'm super excited to talk about it and write about it all so thank you, all so so much or listening. 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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 2 with Antonio Mazzaro

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 2 with Antonio Mazzaro

"Some game right to your mama. Offense. As the r h Peyton Ambi. Some day. Awesome school. I can sell you. The our ace. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the RHA p. BNB for the second episode of survivor, David versus Goliath, my name is Mike bloom here to bring you everything about this fantastic second episode including all the know it all shenanigans in New York. That surrounded at first, I mean, welcome in my tried and true co host of the BNB the Mason to my Dixon Liana Boris Liana. How are you. I'm great. Although I do feel like this season, we've been podcasting, like a bunch of David's. So I think we really need to step it up. And I think this is the perfect episode to do it. Hopefully concerned the David did not do too well. I don't know if we're the designated weak links of, but this guy is definitely not a weakling when it comes to podcasting, our guest for the week. You know him from a slew oppo show recaps podcast. Most recently, the fantastic better call Saul coverage he's doing with rob Saturday. No, let me give him a virtual fist-bump so it's not completely visual. Antonio are welcome back to the BNB. Thanks, Mike, thanks, Leon. I can be the Dixon to your Mason. I'm not sure that I want to embrace that, but I guess I do live in Kentucky, like Nick. So here we are. Yeah, as I don't know if you want to speak on behalf of all Kentucky ends, but is the Mason Dixon line. Like, I mean, this probably speaking to my geographic. Foibles, but I necessarily realize that the Mason Dixon line also ran over the border of Kentucky. It's it's not great. I mean, it's the Maryland Pennsylvania line, but it one hundred percent has an impact around here. You you certainly hear about it or it's part of it. I mean, I believe and I don't want to be wrong about this, but I believe the Dixon part of the Mason Dixon line is where Dixie the term for the south in general comes from, and there's definitely a debate where I live in northern Kentucky about where that line actually begins and ends. If you go probably about fifteen minutes outside of the Cincinnati area where I live the southern accent's pick and would add nowhere, I guess because that's the TV or radio. They listen to when they were growing up, but it's it's instant. You can almost feel yourself crossing the line on the exits on the interstate. I'm just looking forward to survivor season fifty three, the civil war. Red versus do. Exactly. Not the halo inspires? Yes, no, maybe I'll just throw a throat in their throw a couple of gamers, and they're just to catch all of everyone who likes the idea, red vs blue totally racist. It's fine. We're blue versus gray. I guess our modern civil wars red versus blue, but we don't need to talk about that. Well, let's talk about another division that might have occurred on our screens this week with survivor David versus Goliath Antonio through to episodes of Dave versus glide how you feeling about the season so far are really like the way the story is being presented on the BNB last year famously catching talking about how all of the edit base talk in all of the group. Think around that and people highlighting specific confessionals was driving me crazy listening, so I just took myself away. I dropped out and stopped listening to cast that we're talking about things like that or spoiling perhaps things down the line. I feel like maybe the survivor or the producers of survivor have have heard. Some of those cries not mine. I would never presume that my my opinion had any importer influence on that. But I think in general, the edit of this show in the stories of the characters. I thinking back to the first episode feel like we got something from every single character even if it was just a little bit, and I know a little bit about each person that's. Out there. And that's certainly different from seasons past, and I feel very good about where we are with that. In this in this season, the tribe divides pretty rough. The David drive is a hot mess for sure. Doesn't doesn't seem to be like there's a swap gone the horizon so and they're going to maybe Meyer in that for a while. But I think they're going to build some strong bonds as they continue if they continue to go to travel council. So I'm excited for this season and I'm definitely enjoying some of the characters and I'm looking forward to talking about a more today. Well, first of all, don't this your opinion. The NSA is always listening and forwarding your opinions to survivor production. I can imagine the NSA being one of those like old school telephone operators with the big board with a bunch of snakes, like, all right, that's about survive this call to to Mike Burnett. Death producing. That's how it works. And of course there with that accent wearing a newsboy cap for some reason, the telephone operator voice, Mike, thank you very. Who's on the party line. This is good. Give me Parkway six, five hundred. Please Liana I know that we sunk praises about the premiere last week. It's always hard to sort of follow that up. Second episodes tend to not necessarily be the best draws, maybe set the tone us to the way the rest of the season goes. How did this land for you personally? Well, I think it was nice to start to release e wear the alliances are gonna fall. I mean, obviously, whenever you have tried that has to go to trouble council does alliance is tested and we get to see where people true who they really wanna play with in the sand or otherwise. Although it will be nice eventually to see if goliaths ever go to tribal council. Although I doubt they will. I so you know, it'd be nice to see their divisions, but in terms of the David's tribe, definitely it was nice to see to see more of everybody. I mean, again, I think I kinda cosign what Antonio is saying of the David's really being put through a lot and billing for strong bonds. Oh, it's gonna be interesting. You know, they might be the ones that survive when we get to the merge and the Glaive starts eat each other up. Yeah, I'm gonna make a bold prediction here. I think five, six weeks from now, we are going to take a look at the game and say, the Goliath in this moment should've thrown a challenge to get Natalie out. That's that's just the feeling I have not to spoil survivor South Africa, but that's something very similar mentality that Shannon gates tonight sort of imported that obviously played out in the end game and I'll keep it vague like that. But I don't know if a -sarily with indie glides mentality to throw the challenge. I know to your point, I try not to read the edit too much, but I remember when I was sitting there and there was a nice little statler and Waldorf and other muppet I guess, triage myself, Josh, and Steven sitting together during the note which was fun. But I just felt like we were getting from this episode all the like all the Natalie stuff made me feel like, okay, there's there's not enough intrigue, or you know, other options being provided here to make me feel like life. It's going to tribal council and ended up being true and I. But I will say the second half of the episode which features the entire David tribe flipping on itself, I thought was extremely well done. Even though rob does make a point on the cast podcast that we didn't hear too much from like your Davies and your bees, and your Jessica's and your corals in terms of the strategy as to why they're gonna vote for Lisa, we really did see every step of a counter movement coming together, which was really cool. We got to see that Elizabeth and and Lisa alliance really almost immediately bear fruit. We saw the alliance that was made earlier on the episode last episode with Christians. You know, various one on one pairings start to bear fruit as well. So I'm starting to really enjoy how you know the things that have been brought up an episode. One really segue into episode too, because that doesn't sometimes happen on survivor the Nick and Elizabeth one to the quote unquote thoroughbreds that seemed maybe that was important as well. Even though we didn't necessarily see the evidence of that or the direct evidence of it up to, we saw the Pru. From the pudding with vote. So yeah, people Nichols out there making alliances with everybody, but the two that we really see him talking to directly are two of the main people that are involved in this flip. So that's great. And maybe we didn't see the Lisa stuff because Mike, I think you're forgetting jested. People just don't wanna talk about it like, won't talk about it. This is it. People have made their minds up. They don't really wanna talk game. That's that. Maybe just go play in the sand. Gabby just do that. All my gosh, that that conversation on the log or wherever be Gabby and just over all sitting was so uncomfortable. Like I totally get work. Abbey was coming from. They were targeting me and I wasn't even playing. I was like, why are they being so eighty? They talk about the vote, God, they're targeting me. So it was so poorly handled terrible. We've seen early game survivor meltdowns if you will. The first time somebody really has to face a tribal council and they're worried it's going to be them because they don't feel in the loop. I think this in this case, Gabby had every reason to be worried that it was her because yeah, you're Riley out of that conversation was so brutal really inform the way she like counter interactions. The rest of the episode like that prompted, I think, are very panicked discussion with Christian of like, okay, are you gonna play with me? You're not gonna play with jets, right? And then there's this one, but when Elizabeth goes to her with the plan and Gabby goes, oh, no, it's me right. That's what you're telling me right now. Essentially, Elizabeth was trying to like build her up before completely breaking her down south. I was a little intrigued, see, hyper paranoid Gabby, you know, she, she advertise herself as a Kleenex commercial to Josh, and I won out and we have seen. A bit of that emotional fruit over the past couple of episodes. But it was interesting to see that other side of, here's hoping that you know now that she is past the first vote, she's able to calm down a bit. Even though you know she, she was able to to make the flip, and that might put her a bit more front and center than maybe she wants to be. And also heavily on them while I was just thinking psychologically. I mean, that's still the sort of the first one out you know for because Pat really was developed, and so in terms of who is voted out, I. So there's sort of the exile that goes along with, I guess, sticking second one out. I think I voted out Nick. I think talked about that at some point or somebody did like this is the time Christian. Maybe this is the time where you really get it's Christian. You really get to test these alliances like you really see where the people have been talking a lot the last few days, but now you're going to see where the line's lie. And so there is that bit of anxiety for everyone, I think. But I, I do wonder if b and ingested handled that better with Gabby. If this vote result would have been the same way or would Gabby have just been pulled in by the move that was already in motion with Elizabeth and Lisa and deciding just realizing in the middle of the conversation, maybe we should vote just out. Would that momentum's have carry. He'd Gabby into that alliance anyway. Was this already in motion or was it the bad handling by and just that really led to this and it's hard? I think the episode presents it as though it is the bad handling that that is part of the reason why Gaby gets in that position. But I feel like that move was already in motion if she's truly aligned with Christian, and if they wanted to move to work and they approach Christian about it, I'm not sure it wouldn't have happened anyway, but it seemed like they're poor handling was a huge reason why this happened. And I guess I guess this is what David Bloomberg and Justice. I will leave that to the site now. I mean, I do agree, and you know, from my exit interview with Jessica, she alluded to the fact that apparently Gabby and be aware very tight. So I do wonder to your point Antonio, I do think a lot of credit should be given to the fact that this conversation was completely bungled and stoke the fires of her paranoia. But if this didn't happen, I feel like she would have been a very interesting position and maybe. She would have been presented as the swing rather than Christian and Nick in the episode because she would essentially be torn between her lines with Christian and her lines with be which you never wanna make those tough decisions early on, but it just shows how this David tribe is a full of very active players. I do not attribute any other additives in terms of good or back that thing that we have yet to really see. But I think this is really what happens when you pass people who are actively excited to play the game, it might not be the most optimal style of gameplay, but dammit makes exciting television. It's a hot mess. It's a hot mess. Tribe the is a bit of a hot mess to me. I, I understand where we're going with Fiji, and we have to keep continuing to come up with these creative things. And I've talked about themes in the past on podcast, and I've never been super pro theme really, but it's never bothered me as much as this one has. You've got Elizabeth talking about what David's are like as though she's ever contemplated that in her life, like five minutes into the game. So it bothers me also, I'm this is going to just make me look like the biggest loser in the world. I don't like polarizing the Goliath have a huge advantage. I can just say Goliath has a huge advantage. It's bothers me that we referred to every one of these people as goliaths in that there was only one Goliath and only one David. So why can't we just call it in the Goliath, tribe and the David tribe and be done with it, like goliaths are getting out into the water, just say Goliath get is getting out into the water. It just bothers me getting triggered every time. I hear one of the tribe names is my problem. This is my problem. I would have breezy, Dave. David is out in the water. Any having trouble even though it is Bler allies with just picturing all the David writes, whole tribe of David rights is still the only thing I picture. So I think that would really help. Nicely also be a bit of a problem considering that there is someone in the game named Davey. I know he doesn't want to go by David, but it could be a very, who's on first moan of Jeff saying David Davies like no, Jeff back here with the puzzle. You for God like your come on, Jeff, wipe your eyes off. This is bad, but you glasses on. All right, seeing your dimples, Vicky of Jessica. Let's get into our preseason predictions as to how miss Pete would do Liana. What did you and I have to say about Jessica preseason. Okay. So obviously I was inspired by to write this prediction, but her placement that was on me. So I had Jessica in the finale. Yeah. So here's what I wrote. Jessica was economic positively around camp the entire game, which is what helped her around with the weather was less than ideal. She stuck with the dominant alliance was afraid to make it move because she sends how to survive because with survivor family, blessed experience be while this strategy got her to the final three. The jury just didn't respect as game as they underestimated her toothbrush blonde. In her final jury, she claimed I'd grown positive and I believe thinking of my game causes sneezes. Sadly, her speech was all for not and Jessica. Got zero votes in the final three. Also, this doesn't make any sense now, but I promise it will later her closest ally was Dan and her worse. Enemy was also day on. Wow. I a, you literally took us to church there between be blessed and also saying, bless you in response to her saying that thinking about your game will make you sneeze. Mike, that was a BB. I think I don't think that would be. BNB by the way is like every changed the spelling this year. Well, the well, we know we consulted with like, how would you change the name? And she's like, I mean, a lot of companies are doing different things. I can't really tell you anything right now. And so we, we just sort of went off on our own. We didn't have the proper technique. So yeah, technician about such a big issue, give a big pep talk about, like guys doesn't matter if the other podcasts are bigger than you. You know, like where I come from, even though we divide specifically by the size that we are, doesn't matter what size you are. So poor, toothbrush, blonde, and fortunately did not make Manelli by my own whims. I went with Jessica going pre-euro. I said the parents on her tribal look to her as a temporary adopted daughter. I did say she would get swap screwed, which was ironically enough after she said, she loves twists and I said, she'll post the most photos from the pre jury trip on social media which has to be seen. I said her closest ally would be Gabby and her worst enemy would be Lisa. Unfortunately, no, Dan involvement there and Tony. Oh, we put things in your court here. Who do you think had the more accurate? Jessica prediction? I don't know, man on one side, you've got a toothbrush blonde. So this is really tough to match, but come on my like, this is I, I really am. Sorry. Liana that did not take it this week, but Mike, you like the Dawda like that's there. I feel like that was in there. Like she reminds me of my daughter. I feel like that was in the episode. The Lear stuff is in the episode. The pre Jerry stuff is in the episode. I gotta go with Mike on this one. I'm sorry. No, that's totally fair. Although this prediction game causes sneezes. Yeah, you might be allergic to your predictions now by the end of this? Yes. So, and I did actually at the chance to speak with Jessica on my exit interview as well. And to your point, Leon about her sunny disposition being able to tide over even the worst weather. It sounds like that was something she was actually intending to do before the bad weather hit where she said that like just chains completely personal personality wise because of that understandably so. But I think you were on the right track for the first twelve hours of the game before it started raining. She looked miserable. She and I know you know, they were doing the sharing the stories on the David tribe, but still like she's crying. It's cold. It's wet. Clearly, this is wrong, but kink wrath, Mike, I'm proud of you. I have. I'm just waiting much Goliath to like eventually fall to some sort of. I don't know. I don't know what my slingshots going to be from Liana slash sky net, but I'm just waiting before a fall. Yeah, I gotta go, I gotta go find neck and get that slingshot that he hopefully found you're gonna find you gotta find Christian and turn that into a death robot that will take out at some point. There we go Foshan dynamics. There's no playing games without inherent risk involved produce exhilaration. So bring it on my God. Doesn't look as well when you do it. Mike tilt, my head like forty five degrees and placidly lookout. As I'm talking talking ending, you make like the perfect Christian conversation. Is that Christian? Are we talking about religion? Now, this is the names are also very confusing. We have blessed be. We have Christian conversation. This is David tribe. Like I'm off the rails right now. Let's put. We'll put you back on the rails here Antonio as per usual. We each bring a question for discussion here on the week after week. What did you bring for us to to Molo whether it be about this episode of survivor proper. I want to talk about this season because the first episode Jeff's big soliloquy at the beginning of the season when he's gonna Huila and Tonio Shaquille this show shaqueal that Jeff delivers at the beginning of the season when he's convincing all these players that they've into some archetype that they've never thought about for their whole lives, and then they're gonna talk about it for the next fifteen, twenty minutes and confessionals. He goes into this detailed thing about how the person who wins, it's going to be the person who seizes finally advantage. It's not about what the advantages about. We're gonna finding the advantage in using it and the person who does that best. Will will capitalize. And then we have is pretty well constructed challenge from the off that that emphasize that underlying issue between David and Goliath, where David was stronger and Goliath was our Goliath was stronger. David had to be Wiley and uses slingshot or whatever be be smarter. And there was that great element of that. And then I'm just feeling like kind of dropped the ball on that in this episode, there was the one moment where I think that if David gets through the thing I and they chop though the the rope than Goliath, if glide gets through I, they chop the rope and David has to untie the knot at some point that comes up. But I'm just wondering, did they drop the ball on this? Is there a way they could have altered some of the elements of this episode, especially the challenge which I think ultimately we saw them level out at the puzzle, and then it seemed like David just gave up on the puzzle some wondering if there are ways to to play. I don't think the theme has come into this season as much as I expected other than one try. Seemingly being stronger than the other. And I'm wondering if there are ways that you guys think that they could have brought the theme into this episode more from a game design standpoint and looking for going forward from game design standpoint, that would underscore this theme a little bit more. Why would say that? I think that we've seen this choice come up to your point in a lot of first challenges. I think back to millennials versus gen-x when gen-x, although shortcuts in exchange for having, I think more pieces of the puzzle to do at the end of the day, it is interesting that they bring this element of choice into like the opening challenges you mentioned before, how even the immunity challenge had. Okay, I threw had to do one thing and then the second trip through had to do something a bit harder, but it so interesting how, yeah, those don't don't really get brought up. You could say, maybe like an individual Porsche, we have the eat or play that could involve a bit more strategy. I don't know if you're Hoffer, just wants to put forward more straightforward things out of the gate that don't require much higher level thinking as malnutrition begins. But I think you make a good point that this always seems to occur an introductory phases, but it's not something that necessarily gets brought up, especially in. In other pre merged challenges. I mean, ghost island coming off, goes dial, and I don't mean to jump on. Yuliana coming off goes Thailand where that became like that was the theme that was was present throughout the season, and we had all these ghosts and we had all these elements. So just feel like this, the only elements of the theme this season that are carrying through the episodes, and maybe that's why down on our that one tribe is stronger than the other. And that's it. There's no element of what David can do to get back that seems to be presenting itself in the game with regard to strategy or any elements in the challenges are things like that. Yeah. So I'm just trying to think. I mean, if you all down, sort of what I don't know, maybe we'll our interpretation of EMAS because although I originally thought it dear parents love you, but in terms of games, see, I don't know how that baby like your like David parents are cheering from the sidelines or as the glides. Don't get survivor. Daddy issues coming CBS. This. That's after the civil war themes us so so yeah, to your to your point Antonio about like, okay, so, okay, the David, let's say they have less physical strength. Okay, that's that's that's inherent to the teams, but then they get tools that sort of help them. So you know, how is it that you design the challenges that sort of help the lack of physicality of the David tribe in terms of tools. So you know, I don't know. I'm thinking for this past this challenge. Okay. Maybe the, they don't have to hold the things that the pal the puzzle was balanced on or something, or you know, one gets to stay in place or to get to stay in place to fix them or something, and that sort of there. Instead of five or something. Yeah, right. That's really, I think that's valid. What about it's just what? If they, I mean, maybe they should be getting to pick who sits out from the Goliath tribe like maybe there should be almost like that as well. Like I, I just feel like Jeff, Jeff had that big shaqueal as my put it at the beginning of the season about it's about identifying the advantage and finding the advantage and using the advantage. And that's what's going to get you ahead of the game. But then the challenge comes in, no advantage was presented or no opportunity to work. An advantage was presented. I just feel like if we're going to be in Fiji, we're going to have these teams every season, then they should embrace the theme and they should put more work into designing elements within these challenges that speak to that. And that level the playing field to a certain extent that said, even though David just got housed on the physical portion of this challenge, it seemed like they blew it by not doing the puzzle, well, which is would think you would have thought if we're leveling it out that they would have had a shot and should have been able to do that puzzle in an hour. So I'd. I don't know. I watching the the episode that either of you get the idea or the sense that the reason the puzzle didn't get done in an hour because it was because people kept dropping it. When you look when you look at David's puzzle at the end, there's two pieces together and they're not even like they're not even right. So I don't think it's because they kept dropping it. I don't know what the hell happened there. Well, I mean, my assumption was because they kept dropping it and that's where people were saying, oh, it's David should be at the puzzle, but in my mind, it was all about having to balance five different platforms at the same time and able to keep them essentially when you start putting the pieces, keeping them balanced is most important at the beginning. Because once you sort of have the whole thing built, it's a little easier for one to sort of fall because the puzzle will hold itself up. So like when you see the Goliath, actually stepping backwards Karas is actually her platform is like dipping down, but the puzzle stays together because the two people on the other side, they're sort of holding it. And I think that the David really couldn't get. Over that hump of like getting those all those first pieces together. But yeah, it did seem like there are pieces are out of place, so maybe there's something else going on, but my initial assumption was all had to do with the physicality of having to hold up those balancing platforms. I would compare it to that team building exercise where you're all going, you're you and a group of people are supposed to count to twenty together, but only one person can say number at a time where to on his point, like everyone is going to jump in on those first couple number that you're almost always going to start over. But once you get further along and you sort of build a rhythm, that's when the team were kicks in and everyone has a six cents as to who's going to save what so, yeah, I think it was just a matter of like the goliaths were able to get on the same page. I think the conditions also didn't help. It's a little crazy that I went from blistering cold wetness to dry heat in the course of like twenty four hours and it seems like everyone was. I don't think we're. I don't think we were getting like. Caleb Reynolds salt and pepper memorial award levels of passing out, but it seemed like the conditions might have impeded everyone's performance as well. If you look in the background, one of the shots while David is doing the puzzle, you can see down on the beach that Elizabeth has her giant cowboy hat off, and she's fanning someone who caught the vapors. I don't know it is, but I would love to know who has suffered the heat issues there and Elizabeth is tending to. I can't really see who it is, but I'd love to know who that was. So I think the bottom line and Tonio essentially what you're suggesting is perhaps some sort of I dunno, medallion of how no. It. No, that can't be David. Just always has it. I just that's really funny and it couldn't be a slingshot either because invariably Christian would fire the sling shot at the wrong team or something like that. Not to throw shaded anyone specific. But yeah, you can't really have a slingshot, so medallion of power. God. No can't be. We can't do that. Okay. Got you. Connected to Mr. Bonetti says, great idea will bring it in episode three. Mike whites out there like no. Saved us from redemption island, maybe medallion of power revote you're going somewhere else with his last name, and I did not want to make that joke. So I'm glad you were making a different, Joe. I wonder if I wonder if he does have poll where just says, dropped her buffs. Mike goes no hold on. You could Jeff's like, you know what? You're right. Okay. Let's let's next this slob let's get to your next challenge. Jeff. Just texted our mutual, Fred. Did she says no. I just I, I feel like we're gonna. We're in the cycle. We're in the cycle now and that's fine. I think a lot of people have been turned off by the themes that emerged because you're in the same location every season. I thought ghost island did a creative job of working with the seam and putting the people in ghost island. I think they can improve on what they do ghost island. But I think in general, I was I was I was pleased with the idea of ghost island and it didn't always work, but I think it was a good groundwork for theme that played into the course of the season. This one is pretty trash in my opinion, and I feel like it's just a, it's just a repeat. You make the joke about the medallion of power, but we've seen seasons before where where people have an extreme advantage or where people are in in control. And I just wish that the David versus Goliath and the idea that David could be creative or Wiley or that there were some element of, I think they did a well at the first challenge. I think they dropped the ball on this. Challenge, I think Liana makes great point about, maybe you do something where you can acquire something that makes you ropes easier to control or something to that effect. Maybe you're, you can do something early in the challenge, make choice that gets you a smaller puzzle to solve the puzzle to get another. There are just elements. They could've worked into this challenge. It seemed like a straightforward physical puzzle with a challenge at the end, not one. I thought that highlighted the ability of David's to be different than Goliath. So here we are. I have, well, we watched the David not dropped the ball as they dropped their puzzle pieces. Let's move on here to our first game of the podcast, and this is something that I have lent from rob session. You know, this is a game he brought up last year. I believe when previous guests Rourke was on the podcast CBS all access gotta love the platform. Gotta love all the stuff they put out there. They're caption. Game might have been written by David as compared to a Goliath. And that sometimes they mismanage or miss here words, and we see them delightfully on our screen as they watch the episodes. Here's how this game is going to work. We're going to go back and forth for each of you. I'm going to read to possible misspelled captions from a sentence that occurred in the past two episodes David versus Goliath. One of them actually appeared on CBS l. access one of them I made up, it's going to be your job to figure out which is the fake caption and which is the real caption Liana how you thinking your chances are before we go into this man, I dunno CVS all access closed captioning. Like a bunch of David's which is I think now my favorite phrase to us, so watch me overusing run it into the ground. But I am excited and I have no idea of the go, but let's play. Until you're someone who totally loves to to rewatch episodes of television order to break down. Have you ever watched survivor with the close captioning on? I have in some cases to to hear what what things were said or, but that doesn't always that doesn't always work because you're right. The captions are failing. That said, I on those robots better than I do and knows these. These automated machines, Leon, his AI friendship here may serve her. Well, we'll see. I'm excited for the blessed experience be causes sneezes, close captioning. Absolutely. So we'll see who ends up smiling like a toothbrush blonde. By the end of this. All right. Let's start with you. So again, I'm going to give you two possible captions. One of them is true. One of them is false, almost pretty. Elementary one here. So this is from Jeff's previously on survivor episode to, obviously the sentence is supposed to be at the live tribe, Dan fell for CARA, but the all access, Steve mismangament, Dan's name. So you're have to guess which one of them is the correct captain here, hey, at the Goliath, tribe ban fell for CARA or at the Goliath tribe, grand fell for CARA. Oh boy. I think there are interesting connections in both possibilities here. I don't want to really delve too deeply into them. Blessed I reveal some issues about my own psyche. Let's just say. I'm gonna go with band. I'm gonna go with band because we have a b on the season. I think maybe these people just don't understand like that. Not everyone has an aim like be and maybe somebody's name is just dance. I'm going with ban that is correct. Correct. I really wish it was grand. And Mamie also think about the fact that if you had a grandmother saying the things that Dan says on survivor, it becomes a bit more palatable. Oh, I don't know about that. Grandma's like finding with the two hottest girls on the island I found I don't with the two most beautiful woman on the island. Doesn't that sound nicer that it coming out of a father to. Know, does it. Miami, I retire at the retired phone. Operator operator retire that she's a grandma back in the day Eisenhower. He was a looker much like CARA. Off the rails. I'm honestly grand play time. All right, let's let's go to Liana here. So this is going back to Knicks confessional about his relationship with Christian comparing themselves to another survivor pairing, and it was really fun to watch Stephen fish back in person at jump up and throw his arms than the expectation when his name got mentioned specifically the part that he was a genius, but here the two possible captions, hey, we were like JT and she had or be we're like j. p. and Stephen. Oh, man, it's probably JP and Stephen. But I just really wanted to be she and yeah. Okay. I'm going go, she I don't care. Yeah, I the more funny answer, but unfortunately. Sad, although I like this concept of being sort of a closed captioning. Rohrschack test Rourke to your psyche. Right. It's a rohrschack test. Like this idea of JT closest ally being chicken Oshii Han. Or it's like a combination of she and Stephen with a chicken matching some sort of mash up there. But it also provides a nice image of Stephen working with JP hills, aback, which I don't know how crazy this even would have been driven by JP's mannerism and things like that. He's just so good. To call my grand funny, really funny. That's my favorite. It'll be hard to top that one really until you are up one zero, Mike white white a bit into his resume. In the first episode, this is Mike white going over his resume, hey, I wrote stool of raw and Nacho LeBron or b. I wrote school of rock and Nacho leak Ray. Stool or leak Ray trouble either way stool of a raw like this sun God or not show leak Ray like some sort of cheese powered death device with stool, boom, from the powder to the pool room. Mike, let's just go with stools. Unfortunately, you are not coming up like Blaine. It is not show league Ray, the correct caption on really. Notch only actually the affirmation Rourke Senate couple of these to me after our podcast last week and yes, Mike, right. Talked about how much he loved writing nut show. Leak Ray if you have not your leak, right. You should see a doctor, I think, or not show nitro lira as Dave wrote on his vote for. Shout out to Keith Dixon for the tweet that that voted out fibromyalgia really hard at that tweet. You're David, you have five mile GIC. You need Lyrica. All right, Leon, let's go back to you here. Natalie is done with the booger teeth of Goliath tribe. Great way to start. By the way, Natalie like Boogers Alison did not say Boogers in my teeth. Natalya said, do I Booker my nose? And do I have something in my teeth connect the two tally facial system is not that I'd. But initially, Natalie said everything here is childish in high school like so, no, I'm not doing that here. The two options that all access provided a everything here is childish and Holly like so, no, I'm not doing that or be everything here is childish and Christ tool. Like I'm not doing that Moore's tools. Okay. Well, I guess I'll try to try to follow the last question. I'll go with a void. The stools. Much like a share me getting washed away by the waves of waiting. The stools is nice childish and Holly like is the correct answer. So you had to fake stool answers. What is going on? This is the test. I mean, I had to do tool fake stool answers. It's only at right drink. I used to ride and councils corners than like one's real ones not. But. Nice. Try. Has chosen any other word than stool, though. Like, okay, whatever this is fine. Everything's fine. I do like Holly like, 'cause I don't know how you got that from high school, but it feels like Holly like maybe people have against girl named Holly Holly Hoffman, maybe. I don't know. You should get your Nacho leak rate shack, Mike. I will Dr Alison. Please help me. There's Boogers Dr. Life is the one who would check that actually God. No, I don't wanna be washed over by knock knock jokes, like Dr Alison tidal wave. All right. Let's let's go to number five here. Going back to you over tied up one one. Someone Davey is searching for the idol. He mentioned he pulls a and says, you know, my my, I always for being the premises ninja style here you're to possible captions Odier, hey, my rise are always surviving. The premise says, ninja style. So p. r. e. m. e. s. space SEZ is how they did premises be. My guys are always serving Perm ISIS, ninja style. Oh my God. This is worse than my predictions. No stool options. Mike. No. My stool is always stooling the stool stool ninja stool in somebody make that into a drop. I'm going to go with. Is it possible that ISIS made it into CBS all access like this is bad. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna void ISIS at all costs. That is a good motion of action. That is correct. Yes. The my are always saying the premise says was real and my guys are always surveying the Perm ISIS is incorrect. It sounds like something President Bush said at some point. I don't know. You lost about halfway through. I was like, I, I mean, technically, I think I know the words that you are saying, but not in the particular order in which they are assembled. All right. Let's go to you here. You have to get this right to tide. Otherwise, in tuna wins episode one brought up the broad calls this the idol gap last episode between Angelina and I think Alison, we're talking. The actual was not enough woman find idols, but your your differentiation is not enough woman, find dribbles or not enough women find angles. Okay. So Judy is more math is what we're going with. Yes, the the always the biggest discrepancy is this our society for Judaism that should be a new game on the BNB by the way, just bidding for future BNB episodes Judaism or math. Now cosign is that a Hebrew word function. Okay. Let's see. I. All right. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with math. I'm gonna go with angle. Understand belief early on, and that is correct. Not enough women find angles, which I think is pretty applicable to the game of survivor to support women in stem. All right. So you are tied and I don't have a tiebreaker. So I think the true winner is CVS all access per for providing these fantastic options that have made this game. Truly you have given us a stool to stand on for the best. True winner. Our the listeners are the NB who just got a stem joke. That's fantastic. The highest level of humor here between playing. Really, we're finding angles. Snag. Well. Take it back to the episode. I guess not the closed captioning of the episode. I was actually super curious about how how is it as a survivor player, how you approach being told you're getting voted out because you're the weakest. Now we saw leaguer Sesay. Oh, I'm not the weakest sort of fight against that moniker. And then Natalie, although she kind of took it a different way of being the biggest threat. I guess she was selling herself as I am the weakest, and you can take me and dragged me to the end. So I was just trying to think of if you're being voted out because you're the weakest, like, how are you supposed to convince your tribe otherwise, or like, how do you go about? How do you sell yourself? How do you stay when that's the reason why they're putting you out. I've seen in the past, you just read just race somebody down the beach. Right? Isn't that how. They can run backwards or forward, but you have to raise them in show that you're strong. Good question. I debate never came up because rob, I thought, did a great job mentioning this know it alls. Like, I guess this is your curiosity. We can call this beacuse. The fact is that the the was saying, I'm basing it on challenge performance and be blue. The challenge. Like really, you're gonna basis on challenge performance on all? No, but I do think that if you put that on blast that would've given, I think Lisa doesn't feel like she's gotta move right if she feels like I've got no allies. I'm being called the weakest. Then the goal is really to put that on display in the middle of the tribe and say, you say, I'm the weakest. Here's the evidence from the first suit challenges that show. I'm not the weakest. I did the first challenge. I was the first one across the rope ladder. I could have fallen in the water. Then we would a lost. I didn't. You saw me like almost vertical or horizontal just flying through that morning. Earning considering Chievo an exactly upright. Yeah, either way. Right. I think you put that on blast and you just say, here's the evidence that shows I'm not the weakest, and if you're targeting someone else as being weaker than you than, I think you can put that on display as well. I mean, you have to go to war on that front. I don't know that you can do anything else if you're cornered like that. I think the solution is to show your strength another way, which is what Lear did. She showed that if they were challenging her weakness in the physical game, maybe they have a valid point. Look like she gave up on the puzzle, but her weakness, her strengthen the social game. It was a huge advantage to her here because it helped her rally votes to help her change what the perception was about who is stronger or weaker needed to go home. And I think that she showed her strengthen different way and that's what maybe David, maybe that's what she needed to do. She slingshot away through that vote. So I think there are multiple ways to do it depending on what your situation is. She had options because she had a good ally. And because she had people that were willing to make. Move. Other players might not find himself in the same situation might have to behave differently. I am interested in the the Natalie strategy though, because Natalie's like, look, you're gonna vote the fifty seven year damn near sixty years old. You're gonna vote me out like you're gonna. Why don't you just drag me to the end. My response to that is like, why do you want to stay in the game? If you don't think you can win if you're out here selling that you're definitely going to lose the game anyway. Then why do you wanna stick around like what are you sticking around for? You? Don't think you can win. I don't. I find that her pitch was a lot there wasn't there wasn't I think that was an empty pitch. I think she wants to stay in the game because she knows she's not the weakest, and she thinks she can win. So I think her pitch that she should be kept in the game because she can't win is pretty weak to me. And I don't see that as a reason to keep her around in any in any way. I don't think selling yourself as a go works for me because I think that if she considering her position in her tribe and considering that she's older, she's not fitting with everyone else. The deeper, she makes it into the. Game, the more dangerous she's going to be. I think that's a really poor cell on her part to sell herself as week that is. It just doesn't speak to anything that she's experienced in her life in any of her skills that put her on the Goliath tribe. So I did. I didn't buy her pitch at all the economic stand, what you're saying in terms of, you know, really coming forward providing point-by-point evidence as to the challenges, but could there also be a case of like the lady protest too much of, you know, sometimes if you raise too much of a stink, you draw the target even further on yourself and maybe almost turned around and you and saying like, oh, she can actually, you know, she can defend herself pretty well. Maybe that's another reason to get rid of for. I mean, it's a really tough situation because it all depends on the people that you're around. Did you make some sort of like loaner deal? Could you say like, hey, if you keep me an eye Beth, put me on the puzzle the next challenge, and if I screw it up for everyone vote me out. Do you think making as bowl of acclaim as that could actually. Lead to you getting kept over some other random person. What kind of bargain is that Liana like? Is that some kind of like is there some that speaks to like the idea that you might be able to just make deal down the road for for what's happening now, but I don't know that I'm not sure we've ever seen something like that. I don't. I don't think so. I mean, certainly something that's that's so concrete Mike, you know, I mean, it's like, okay, if I don't do if I don't win this puzzle or you know, do this puzzle while enough to win the challenge, then you can vote me out. I'm trying to think of any example that we've seen before. I think I think maybe what I thought of Mike, when you said lone wolf deal is, you know, sort of Lear SaaS at worth. I can be a tool for you. So if Natalie is on the outs and Jeremy tried to pull her in, you know, John heading it and tried to pull her in. And obviously she was resistant to that, but I think maybe that's where you sort of you gain your social. Foothold is through these one on one side deals with people where it's like, look, keep me. I'll work with you. I don't know if maybe that's the right approach, but obviously that requires some self awareness, which it's up for debate whether Natalie has or does not have. I don't know what you're talking about. I, I am very self aware. You're not software. Everyone says, no one says that wait what? Yeah, this is. This is very difficult for her. That said, I, I'm definitely team Natalie, like I'm one hundred percent team, Natalie. It wasn't a good look for her, but I'm with you Mike, like the fact that it wasn't a good look for her and they didn't go to tribal council, makes me feel like there might be shot for her going forward because we're getting a lot of. We're getting a lot of evidence of the problem she's having, but we're also getting evidence. And I think Dom about pointed this out. We're getting evidence of things that she's doing. She's taking Mike aside and saying, hey, people are targeting you like, you're, you're standing out. She pulls car side and says, hey, like the showman's thing, people aren't like in that John Hennigan wants to work with her. So I think she's got options and I don't think our best sell is I'm weak. I'm terrible. I'll never win this game. You wanna take me along. I just it's an interesting situation though because. In some some respects that plays to the egos of the David tribe and saying, you're all bulls, you're all strong. You're all you're all great competitors. Don't you want somebody like me around who isn't like that and who's clearly outlier and who's different. You can use me. That's the tool strategy, but I just, I think their different people like I, I'm not sure that Natalie is being targeted because she's perceived as the weakest. I think she's being targeted because she's being perceived as an outsider as somebody who wasn't working on the shelter. I think she's also being targeted just because because Natalia's is being portrayed a little bit as a mean girl who just doesn't like her who's ranting about her saying she seems like a stalker. Like just saying negative things about the way she makes her feel that doesn't have to do with week so much as just, it seems like that Natalie thinks earn Atallah thinks that she is running the tribe and therefore she's going to target this person who's perceived as an outsider, that that seems to be more to why she's being targeted. So is being targeted because she was the weakest like that was the stated reason. And I think our way of proving that she wasn't was the best way she could have done it, which is proof. She has strengthened other ways, and that's what she says at tribal council. Alternately, it makes Jess look really bad when steps up and says, maybe you shouldn't start playing when you get to tribal and it's like little, do you know that I showed my strength in the day before tribal when I was working to get you voted out. So I think that's the best tragedy for Lisa. But if you're on the outs and you have nobody and you have no social out the show your strength in that way. I do think that's when you have nothing to lose your already the target and you're already gonna. Go home. Who cares? If you put a bigger target on your back at that point. So it's all about what your best alternative is. And I think for Lear says she had a better alternative. She used it worked out really well for her. We heard her say in the episode I wanna get Carl out like I want to vote him out, but she didn't target him. She targeted somebody that she could work to get out and that worked out really well for her. So I think she did a pretty good job and I think. She didn't have to resort to the strategy where she put it all on blast because she had other options. But if you don't have other options, I think that's where you maybe have to resort to just like blowing it up and seeing what happens. So you can either say use me like a tool or I'm a tool. Keep me around. Or I'm a stool. Keep me around. Stand, stand up on me. They'll elevate you further in the game, the stool tool strategy next level evolution of the game. Survivor fifty stool versus to you. You're the stools, people step on you and get your tool. People use you. Listen, you're all you're pretty washed up people point, but we're gonna try to help you while here. As well as long as it goes after rock paper scissors season, then I think we'll be okay. Well, speaking of putting things on blast I wanna get to our next segment because this was a very bizarre idea that I had, but I want to do it anyway. So this was inspired by the quote that Jeremy had during the episode where he said, I don't know what's worse the storm or Natalie. So in Tribune be fashion. I was like, well, obviously we have to play the storm versus Natalie where we have hurricanes typhoons compete against survivor contestants, but that didn't work. Because how do you compare gale force winds to like throwing rice in the fire? So instead what prepared today is what we are calling some version of survivor mania survivor royale. It is essentially going to be a tag team bracket to determine what team of survivor k players would cause the most chaos at camp. So what I've done is I paired of. Different survivor players, and we will have a bracket very quick bracket to talk about which payers would cause more chaos at camp. The criteria is I suppose it's up to us. We can define it, however, we want. But yeah, this is the grand idea that I came up with. Oh my gosh. So, and in my mind, it's a wrestling match. So they're wrestling each other. It's like tag team wrestling, but I don't think they're criteria. They're actually fighting anyway. Solicit get into this. Yeah, we, we pick the perfect guest, though. Tony, you're so you're such a big wrestling devotee that I feel like you're going to be like the defacto. You're going to be the Goliath on this game as to how things are going to go. Vince McMahon. This particular game? Yeah, I'll be alright. I'm guessing we need your help with this nebulous bizarre idea that I had. So. All right. So here this is the teams that we have our first matchup. I'm very nervous. I just want to say, I'm very nervous about this. See how this goes. Okay. So I have four total teams, so we'll have. It's going to be two teams face off, teams face off, and then the winners face off and then they're gonna fight. I don't know. The says, I just couldn't put the hands in there as a team. They're just to chaotic so so the Hansen's were coming up with the hands is already have the Bill? Yes. Are the grin or champions of the world, but you know, Brandon, he got into trouble online, and so he was forced to give up the belt and now there's a new out to determine who will take the Bill. Exactly. So all right. So these are our this is our first matchup. So we have the tag team of Natalie from David's versus Goliath, and Debbie versus Scot Pollard and Kyle, Jason. So the Natalie Debbie team, I, they're called team, SAS, aka team, self-aware, sisters. Scott and Jason are the great balls of bounty. Lousy idea. These names for you for me, just the Roma been captions. It'll be fine. So that is the first matchup. And then just to give you idea where we're going, our next teams, it's gonna be Abby, Maria and coach as the Brazilian dragons versus Jatiya and Cass as the bad luck brains. So I let start with Natalie and Debbie versus Scott and Jason. So anyone have any thoughts to start with. Well, my first thought is I'm not nervous anymore. I was really thinking that you were going to pair survivor any famous versus another depressing real quick. No, that's why I was worried Liana come on like I didn't wanna talk about Hurricane Andrew and Debbie. Hurricane Hugo Atalie's. So here we are. I'm glad that this worked out better because I really want to hear anything like that. But this is this is much better. I was really worried like that was a lot of places. I did a lot of third rails in that now uscis that I didn't wanna touch. So this is much better. Can you? Sorry, I don't. Sorry. I don't mean to be sidetrack and you run down the, we have Debbie and Natalie versus versus Kyle pollen and Skopje. I saw Scot Pollard recently at a Indiana Pacers basketball game, and he was a superstar, like people were coming up to them all all game, getting their pictures taken with him. And I thought there are no survivor fans here because he would be getting booed. As far as chaos around camp. Mike, what are you thinking here? I feel like the Debbie Debbie, Debbie is the biggest chaos agent in this whole force them? Yeah. I mean, I think that Debbie would probably be the most full of rage in the course of this. I think that I'm also thinking about like entrances, I think that Debbie will will walk a balance beam into the arena. I think that's something that she believed wants to show up. I don't know what Natalie, what do. I think Natalie would just sort of like sit around and observe her maybe criticize her afterwards. But the thing that Kyle and Scott have above those two, it's quite literally height. Kyle does not need a top rope. They just stand on Scott's shoulders. He's a stool in that regard. So I feel like especially when it comes to, you know, poking grabbing idols away from people and throwing things onto the fire. Neither one of those two women have done that yet, even though apparently didn't Debbie like poop in the middle of camp. So this might be a very odd matchup. I think you're forgetting one thing too about Debbie, which is that she is very professional wrestler, like in both her ring attire with tagger bathing suit, and the idea that she's worked so many gimmicks over the course of her career. She's been like a scientist gimmick and she's been like, honor. Yeah, she's had all these different gimmicks so this she's, she's probably worked in a lot of different territories into Mexico all across the US. She's had a little bit of problems maybe with the thirties. So she has the background of a professional wrestler, I think. And of course, Scott powered as an athlete, you could also point to him and say, he's got the background of a professional wrestler. There are a lot of athlete to become professional wrestlers after they serve their time in their various fields. Hi, the size that doesn't really matter in professional wrestling. You like dantonio. Yeah, it's all about the technique, Mike, it's all about the technique in that sport. So I feel like the powered and Sergey team would be the heels in this. And I think that also matters because you, you're looking at how these Turnham insultingly play out. I feel like Debbie is the is the x. factor here. I feel like Debbie knows the ring. She knows how to work this, and I feel like she's the difference maker. I think that team is the one that I let coast. I'm not also I think Scott and Jason for me are also a little one note in terms of what they might bring, whereas you never know what you're going to get from Debbie. And Natalie, we've only seen a little bit from her like who knows what other levels of chaos she could bring, she's going. She's going to drop the Natalie napalm all over and Scott and Jason trying to try to put out the fire, the buckets of water that Natalie's napalm. 'cause yes, exactly. We don't know what Natalie may. Tom is, and I think that also adding to finishing. Debbie x. factor and I agree. I think they're the ones that win this ballot. Perceive it like a hot tag to naturally, and she just steps over the top rope and she gets in drops a leg on somebody, and that's the end of it. So I'm on this team. This is good. I like Mike Yari with that and you're being your outvoted anyway. So you don't really have a case. I don't know why I I've been sufficiently pinned, so I'm writing. Sit on your school are right? So our next match-up Abby, Maria in code versus Jatiya and casts. Mike diva. This is going to be someone's gonna end up in hospital with this about because you have cast with her newly announced pacemaker. You have Abby, Maria who you could very easily take out at the knees and you have coach who you can just like give swift kick to the back and he'll start spasm ING and hit the floor with the nice goo. Jatiya might be like the throng est among them that being said and cast were able to win at least two or not win, but at least survive. One challenge together as part of the brain tribes provided that Jatiya does not screw anything up. I might have to put the preference on them plus get like an all female final four, which would be a lot of fun. The the fact that you've got the dragon slayer versus the pacemaker. Those are really good wrestling names. That works really well. So that's the first part of it. I think the issue in this matches that coach is probably playing to the crowd too much directed. He's he's vamping along the ring. He's showing off. He's he's in his character, the conductor, like maybe that's what he's bringing to this one and he's not actually coach. He's the conductor and he's like conducting the audience like symphony, and then he gets up on by. Bye. And that's the end of that chaos cast is, is I like the pacemaker Monica. She could also be working. The attorney angle with the brainiac could bring that to the table. She also really would probably be very invested in taking coach down. It just seems like she would be the kind of person to throw a low blow into the mix. Maybe that's what's happening. Coaches, distracting distracted by the crowd, cast lied into the ring, low, blows him below the waist. And that's the end of that. So I like this idea as well. Coach coaches y so far Abby fits into this. What happens is while coaches like pre into the crowd Abby says like, okay, like eft with me, I'm gonna flip over to the other side and it's actually three on one opened up on a coach, and then they easily double team Abby after that seems that seems. Well, I was thinking, Marie is often the crowd trying to find her bracelet like she not even in the ring at all. They could also happen this idea of Gitonga when she comes out. Part of her entrance is like throwing rice into the crowd or something like that. She could be. She could be like the bride she'll throw rice out her wedding dress. I think JT in cows definitely stay focused. Where's Abby? Marie? And coach just a hot mess for like a whole myriad of race. Yeah, they're just some Abby could be the one fighting with the ref and the ref is distracted when when throws the low blow, she could be. I like the three on one, the double that works really well for me. They're just either way that team is going down the throwing rice with the entrance breaks, a bottle of vodka over coaches head is her. Okay. So now we have the true match up Natalie and Debbie versus Jatiya and casts. Who do we think is gonna take home the championship belts from the Hafiz. This is so confusing. So the winner of this team, just the Bill or did they take on the hands is I don't know my dumb ass Hansel lions team or something like that, or maybe who hamsters the Dudley Boyz. There's a lot of them. They just keep coming out of the woodwork. Some of them are small, some of our big like, I don't know. So you could just throw to Hanson in this lineup. I think you could take them on. It could be Sean. It could be Brandon. It could be there just a lot of options with the Hansa. So I, I don't know the matchup hand the the final four, I'm this is tough for me. Any thoughts on this, either of you? Two. I think that Debbie, I know the I, it's going to happen when Debbie attempts to do chin ups on the bar to sort of show off and then cast just sort of like, takes her out right there. She'll still be standing, but I feel like that's going to be the first major hit and I do have an idea of how the hands are going to get involved that we can talk about in a little bit once. Figure out who's the main winner from the sisters of SAS versus the bad luck brains, this self-aware sisters. The dad luck brains. See for creative ideas. I think the thing that I appreciate about cast is that her chaos is very directed and focused, and I think that that's really what you need to pull out a win here. You like. I'm just thinking the chaos of Debbie. Natalie also narrowly hasn't been around all that long on the survivor chaos wrestling circuit. So I don't know how in tune she'll be with her teammate. And I, I think Gitanas just a force to be reckoned with, although Debbie does bring a certain genetic Kwa. I will go ahead. I don't know. Here's a force to be reckoned with that. If you put any real challenge in front of her, she's not going to to well, they could cast, could we are, I don't know Debbie wheel, outward that fish puzzle NJIT would just spend the entirety of the match concentrating on that and not able to fill it out, but just to get distracted. I think the missing element here for me, at least on some level is that Natalie and and Debbie are classic tag team pairing like you have this, this kind of quiet just dominant beast, monster heel who will come in and the mouthy front person is the person who's out front of the team, talk trash going nuts. And then you bring in there like the end zone and casts of this. Sincere as a cast. On the other side, it's a bad comparison and also ends. Oh, and casts are not great people. So I don't want to compare them one to one, but in terms of the tag team pairing where you've got a Littler crazy person and a larger person who doesn't, you don't wanna mess with. It's a classic tag team pairing, and I feel like I've seen that pairing workout so successfully so many times that it's hard for me to see them losing the question that I have is famous for her. I love nerds take. Does that play into this at all where she is she is embracing any element of any of this. Does that. Issue that does that come into play because we have Debbie's Debbie. So smart, everyone knows it like she'll tell you how smart she is, and that is so successful. I wonder if two is in any way swayed under we have any kind of elements where where there's a turn happening there just in Amherst by the two of them. Well, I'm trying to think as you know, if we're going to take down the hands is what if we somehow get some teams to walk up happening and we try to send our best competitors to take on the hand, says, I feel like that could also be a twist that happened, sort of in this final battle. That your bracket. So you tell me, I think that would work really well if you're realigning the teams. I mean, what? What was the situation for? GTO wasn't it in a. It wasn't a brains brawn beauty situation. So maybe we can have three verses two or three verses three in the in the finals as well. Like there are those opportunities. I like that. So I think that Debbie is a Namur to buy the iheart merits concept. And she says goodbye to Natalie says, Natalie someone's in the in the locker room talking about hice Holly like highschool things, and Natalie sort of runs off to dispel that and to three them against the Hanson. And here, here's what happened. So Russell enters the ring to uproarious booze, but he's able to sufficiently start taking down. He's got like idols, growing them around people's next, pulling them in and dropping them down. And it's just a blood bath out there until right, enhance enters the ring wearing this champion's belt. And what happens is Debbie and casts approach him, and they say. Hey Brennan. You know what? I think that the man upstairs, you know, he's looking down upon you. He would really appreciate if you gave away the belt. Nothing's going to happen to you. You just give the Bill to us and everything should be okay. So Brandon much like he was duped in South Pacific, does the exact same thing gives away the belt and as a result, he is an s. voted out of the championship, and it turns out that are three way. Winners are cast Jatiya and Debbie love it. I love it. And of course everybody else is yelling from the stands. So you've got coach out there, yelling the cast of Australian survivor from this season is out there yelling, I, this is really entertaining. I love this ending. It would be very fitting, I think for Brandon hands to do that. That is this very wrestling standpoint where there's a psychological game that's played and he loses out to the mind games and he's he's swayed in that way. And maybe he could even join the family like he can leave family and take on a new gimmick and join him. Join the the people on the other side like this, there's plenty of opportunities in the wrestling world. If you were to continue this story where Brandon could take on a new personality and he could come out buttoned-down and wearing like a like the attire of like a Mormon elder something show up in the ring. Like I'm ready to preach the gospel. And then you've just there's so many wrestling characters, the hands family, really. I mean, they book themselves in many respects, so it's definitely there. I like this. I can't wait for a flip flip, flipped off season two. When actually the flipping involves flipping people in the wrestling ring and said, flipping house as you can put Debbie on flipped off as well. She's who is it? The food's it Eliza. Breath who flipped off the cameras in the preseason picture throw around there too. All right. Well, thank you for engaging me in my very bizarre idea, took on. Wasn't actual storms. That makes me feel. That I didn't have to jokes about hurricane sandy this well, and I have simulated much Wieder insisted on survivor seasons before. So this was just par for the course for me. Ugly. Yeah, we didn't have any inanimate objects. Good night yet. Although I didn't think this is super tansel, but when Davy found the lizard that everybody thought he was gonna eat and then he like put it in his bag. When I was thinking of this idea, this wrestling idea, I just had David popped into my head and his thing was throwing lizards. So he just be like pocket lizard, and he would just throw who is it somebody that was also an idea that went nowhere. But I thought I'd mention it because why not. Yeah, I went somewhere here. I love that. You said like, you know not to gentle as though we're really on point here lost too far away from our simulated wrestlemainia with the crazy survivors ever. I d like David lizard wizard. Lizard, just like catch, throw them on people to the Strack. Yeah, we and following in the footsteps of Jake, the snake Roberts. Well. Little lizard on his show, love it. So it's, we call them the lizard king, which would I think John Morrison would then say or John Hennigan would say, gimmick infringement Brel. That's my thing. Then we bring him in. It's perfect, we'll we'll have. Maybe we'll do another one in the future where John Hannigan wrestles the trail of cast and Debbie to see who truly reigns supreme here. But speaking of Davey, Mike question involves Davies, fantastic confessional about him finding the idol. He said, you know, I never. I never saw idol before, but when I took a with its smells like an idol, which begs the question, what are you guys thinking? Idle smells like this was discussed a bit at the panel is going to whether or not it smells like leather intone award. Are you thinking, what are your Ola factory senses telling you about the smell of an idol? I think the reuse these things so they have to smoke gross af after the smell like the go and people's pants. All the tile. Yeah. And. They go underground like the seafoam like beach, like just washed up nastiness that the gets buried under the ground there. I just think they smell like fish and inter five, like it's not good like this is some people's thinking. We are. I totally agree. I think Neidl just smells like straight up Dookie just because it's been in so many different places even just like sitting in the woods like it was in this wet sack or sit in the woods, Mike? Yeah, exactly. If an I I do sit in the woods and I just the way it probably did not smell too well, no matter what it was made of Leon. Do you have any thoughts about it? We already heard her thoughts are so little som in comparison. I was like, it's most like the craft store because they just bought all the beads, Michaels and slightly scented candles. That was my. But man. I mean, I can see where you're coming from, I guess. 'cause it's been sitting in the whole wet sack. Thanks Mike for that visual. For a while, smells like like damp burn. Yeah, exactly. Much like the sack you buy in four packs last week from Leon is listening. Well, the other thing is well as maybe there's something that producers can do in future seasons, where if they want idols to be more regularly found, should they like give the idols ascent so that people can follow that if you smell pumpkin spice in the middle of beating and you follow that sense, there's gonna all my God, more white girls will find. That's how you get more one. Thank you. Pumpkins. So glad that you. Because I wanted to make it and didn't feel. That is exactly right. I think that I think we'd have. We'd have the idol found in post-haste if you made it smell or something to that effect. Now there, what does that cinnamon rolls just walking off into the jungle women. Oh no, it's an idle. People might be so hungry that they might eat the idol though. That's a problem. So we had to run into that. You gotta make it smell something people is that movie theater popcorn. I don't think you wanna make it smell like something appetizing because they're so hungry out. There could just happen. I think you'd have to. I don't know what you could make it smell like that. Wouldn't wanna make people eat all these scented candles are some variation of something that you might want to eat. So I don't know if it's old books. Does that smell like old books? Exactly. But some people might be like, yeah, they, oh man, just as appointing. 'cause it's so frigging boring out here. I could read it Lisa book now, just haven't idol. What good is that information is the true advantage, obviously, books over idols. I think though if you want, if you don't want women to find it, you make it smell like axe body spray, but. Yeah, Dan would find it again though. That's the problem. Like you just run into this issue where the same person finds it. So I don't know. Maybe maybe what they do is instead of instead of the comfort items, you list your favorite smell before the season and that they have various things that are your favorite smell like, I don't know what Mike White's favorite smell would be maybe not side of. Show. Nacho league Ray. I mean, I think that I mean, dammit obviously brought him by acts bodies. But what about grand? Would it be like worthy original. Mothballs you really want grand to play this game. I want grand versus Dan Daf. This smells like those orange circus peanut candies so much. That everyone in the world hates. I don't know, this is how you maybe the same this game for a future week, but you could decide what each person's individuals smell was. We had Angela from big brother this summer who was very famous for her sense of smell and identifying the smells of the various people. Maybe we identify in the future what the various smells of all the various competitors are probably too many people left on the board at this point. And I guess maybe by the merge, they're all just going to smell terrible, but they came into the game smelling like that's a good question. Surprise, Josh. And that in Philly. Like, okay, here's a picture of a person. What do they smell like? Maybe that can determine a lot about what you think about a person who's talked about Russia, Russia, all the senses walls. I don't think we want to go there. We don't. So we will promptly plug are noises maybe for a future date to address more smells of survivor. But at least we've sort of functioned on our circled around one in idle smells like, and it doesn't sound like it's knows very good, good on the players for being able to hunt them out and keep those nasty smelling things on their person for such a long portion of time. Let's move on to our final segment each and every week here on the BNB. The question of the week questioned this week in honor of tying with our survivor mania segment. What is your John Heddon like nickname. And I think we sort of opened this up to be like either for yourself or for another survivor. We got a slew answers a lot of names. Let's see if we can go through these. Let's start with great friend of the podcast. Melissa Melissa. The most about said, I think Johnny Chen moon vest would be a good nickname for wrestler, John. They also said mayo of slam talent, be good as well though at Nick, my Arana might disagree. I think my mayo of slam town would be fun. Yeah. Can you could go the whole. Condiment route, you know, like. Really mustard relish only their time to shine in slam town. I mean, I think though Debbie, Mike distracted from her possible 'bout win by the mayo of slam town. So, you know, I used to be a model. He's like a Greek God donnas flam town. Let's go to partnership who says some nicknames of mine include garlic. Bread. Ouray r. a. k. man which stands for ropes axes, not man. Harks me put Mark sauce. Yeah, Parker. I don't know if you revealed your weapons of choice here. It's like BT k. are like, I think there's death a serial killer. I'm pretty hard jobs. Sounds like a park. Suck. Porn is into part killers struck with his RFK's again. I have two signature at the scene. Got a call the mayor of slam town so a foot. Well, that's what Parker's idle it smell like garlic. Bread. Obviously. Man, I would doesn't that idle. Yeah, that'd be. That'd be go hand in hand with the olive garden merged freest. I think that would be the hardest idle because it smells like garlic bread. Moving onto ever, Morris one, quick one, the less stress Adam. Oh, I love this very, very Haley from big brother, like active to apply to somebody as a wrestling. I would buy the pop figure. You're looking very a lesser this evening. All right. Next up trend. See, great comment on the AP BNB thread on the website dot com. Captain commenter cheap seat, concierge peanut gallery president. Hopefully not circus peanut gallery. We got the opinionated TC Khalidi thunder buns. Trent trivia to nations TC trencher the tormentor mister twister. For NATO, Trent t rent syndrome and tinker bell from hell. You really gotta get focused. That's too many. John had trips. Transmit working in Mexico, asks there. What is he rents in? Is that like a looting to something specific remote? It sounds like something that the close captioning people might have. We should look into it. Yeah, I want to go back to a law street. Does that just like an illustration like that word me. I mean, I've heard the word. I've just never really thought that it's just like the word Illustrated's. So Admiral just look like like drawing is a flat Stanley, just a tutti cut out of a Per Stig wish says a way a well. So similar illustrating that maybe they only used to draw illustrations of distinguished people at some point, and that's related. Yeah, all those paintings of English kings exactly. Lustrous well, known, respected and mired for path according to dictionary dot com and likely. Illustration, illustrating crowd. There was something rolled in here on the side of maritime updated that sorry. Well, look forward to our next segment where we talked about word origins, right? Sorry. Etymology to your podcast feed Edme. Oh, is. Algae. Grace leader said the saving grace. Everybody calls me that period everybody. That's ominous. They should team up with a Parker. Why don't they call the amazing grace? Like isn't that better than the saving? Greenwich have a saving grace. Nobody. Oh, man. Mazing grace would be a better wrestling game. I feel like, but that's just me unless you like always comes in is like the person at the very last minute to save the match all the rooms. Yes, she does run ins every time, so that might work. All right. Next up, Michelle says her wrestling names death-knell Michelle, the maroon Munns and magnanimous spider frenzies. Okay. Got this from a wrestling name generator? No, no, no, no. Crushing that one? No, Yep. Stepping on it. So I like the maroon monsoon because that fits in with all the chaos in the storms. And you can jump right in on the tag teams, not the actual storms. Thank God tag teams. So the maroon monsoon fits right in there. Let's go to great. Let's the Brennan Tatra. I'll be one of those wrestlers who always changes their Monica binging, Brandon business, Brandon bumbling, Brendan bully branded, and perhaps my favorite Bongo by new. Working like a like a drum circle gimmick where he's like dreadlocks and hanging out in the Park Lane hack. I like the seems up with the bucket drummers from the subway. I think you've got something there. Team bucket. Buck real better VME. Better and finally will from America had to put this in here Grover brains and brawn. Grove us, Jonathan Liana you got to watch the premiere of the neighborhood this past week, the lustrous neighborhood. What was it like. Okay. I'm trying to think of how to best describe it. I think I was confused most of the time because it was sort of this like so Cedric. The entertainer was clearly racist towards white people. Assuming that white people either are normal racist or they love black people so much that they're also racist. It was very unclear how I was supposed to take the show, the sons of Cedric entertainers character were a little more nuance feeling to really dive into it. We need a whole podcast about it or no one should ever podcast about it ever. But needless to say, so. I was I was intrigued. I might actually watch the follow up next week. Shows only get better. Right? Like the whatever you watched was what they used to sell, the shows I hopefully they've got more legs behind this thing this. You just watch the premise, here's I will say, Zine tire episode. I felt like I was watching the Grover Johnson promo. Am I what's funny about it? A my supposed to laugh like all the jokes were kind of like that where it was like, I'm sorry, is this funny? The laugh track is telling me to laugh. So it was sort of my impression. So we'll see if it changes and we moved past the Grover. Johnson promo, say promo for Grover John's because make me feel like he would cut a wrestling. I'm gonna take you in the backyard center entertainer. The love. Let's not take that promo any I, I don't wanna hear any threats from this little kid to his new neighbors because it's really took about a third forgot sake. Let's not do this. That's interesting. Grover. Johnson all cut to you. Hear what? What are your John Hannigan like wrestling names? Oh my gosh. I feel like I'm working like a like a lawyer gimmick. I did win. I once won the title in law school. So like I think the Missouri list might work to that effect. Yeah, Tuesay's one are somewhere in there like the, you know, the the, the Italian stallion Tuesay's one are I really. Yeah, you just have to like figure your way into working. The best wrestling gimmicks are the ones that are the closest to the person at their core. So like John CENA's wrestling gimmick is John sina like that too. We is right. So he came out when he first came in. He was this guy from the Boston area who was the white rapper, like that's the gimmicky was working. And that still is part of the all John CENA, but he's not out there really wrapping anymore. He's just John CENA. The rock was the rock like that's that's who he is like his legitimate name. He wasn't really portraying a character. It was like an amped up version of himself. So my wrestling guy is probably it's probably the Missouri list because I would just come out and talk the whole time and everyone would be sick of LOL your people into sleepy. I like that. So my finishers. I didn't. I had a really hard time coming up with as for myself. So the first head was because I do the Saturday morning updates for big brother, the Saturday morning delight, which is super creative. Yeah, the the the gallon Thein of sixty nine that I had. I don't know what that means. I was also really intrigued with George Bush of pushy, and I really tried to count with one based on like, I don't know, Theresa May or Angela Merkel, and then like who work in something that never came to fruition of anybody has ideas on that, please let me. No, no, no. The Theresa Theresa May of solid uniform. See exactly. This is why I need. I need help at all right. So Theresa May Saturday. You're going to Brexit from the rings. This is definitely might gimmick which normally make sense. It's just like I said earlier, amplify. You know. Let's go Theresa May of you. So I had. I've been fortunate in that. I feel like I've had some monitor monikers like gifted upon me in the past years of podcasting, Mixmaster Mike in the pocket. I've MC blue misery. I have from this podcast, a mop like meat boy, which I don't know what that would mean. Maybe I'll like brandish a Ma and throw meat and people spaces like Davy did with lizards. But I also went the presidential angle likely animus trying to do with the Millard Fillmore of man horse. Great. All right. So I'm sitting, we're all going to adopt that. As we start the p. wrestling league coming up berry sued the question of the week or next week in honor of gabbing Christians. Fantastic misunderstanding over their conversation. At the tail end of last episode, which survivor player would you want to play in the sand with now? Look, you can be whatever you want. Okay, open door here it can be drawing in the sand. It could be building, same castles, whatever you want, but you have a one player to pick out of the past six hundred plus that you wanna play in the sand. What's so go crazy people. This was such a good exchange. Like when I was watching the episode, I was just reminded about how wonderful it is. You wanna play with me in the sand. Onyx. He starts like. So good. Don't play in the sand with Rupert is all I can say, ends up with you. Murli underground shelter shovel all the RA k. man. So you can give your answer in a bunch of different ways. You can always tweet it to us. So using hashtag RHA p. b. and b. you can post your response on rob has a website dot com as well as rob has awesome patrons group. We'll be going over these next week with our very special guest. Look for the season started. We got this great announcement that Canadians are now able to apply to be on survivor, which is awesome. We've had Canadians on before, but we thought an honor of this occasion. 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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Big Brother 20 Finale with Pooya Zand Vakili

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Big Brother 20 Finale with Pooya Zand Vakili

"Some game right to your mama. Offense. As the r h Peyton Ambi. Some day. Awesome school. I can sell you. Our ase. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the RHA p BB BNB four. The final three weeks of big brother twenty. We have finally reached the end of this long road the highway of the future, and that's cracks along the way. But we have finally emerged at the exit into the fall. That is twenty eight. Mike bloom here with a monthly crew people to break down the final weeks of BB twenty. I welcome my rider die. My perennial final to partner, no matter what Liana Boris Liana. How are you? I'm good. Considering this is the end of the hashtag summer, Steve. It was a fun summer, not so much Steve, but definitely summer. So it's sad to see it come to the Ed come to an end, but I'm excited to talk about the crazy finale that we had and everything leading up to it. Yeah, goodbye summer Steve. Hello. Follow Fessel. It's coming just you way people who fly. The leaves flipped. They change colors without even realizing it. I'm so happy to bring in this gas because I feel like it wouldn't be a season of the AP BNB without bringing this guy on near the end. You've heard him every week on Fridays. We're a bit late with our updates this week or happy to have him on regardless how you doing. I'm doing good man as me summer Steve is over, which means my podcasting career will be temporarily on Jatta until the next big brother season. I couldn't think of a better odd cast to be a part of the BBB finale. Can you describe the brick walls that are behind you as you podcast? Because mine's a nice day. You know, very order like gray. The brick walls behind me are yellow because that's the road I'm gonna take out later. Well, actually big brother's gonna be back sooner. You know? I mean, well, sooner than the summer hashtag summer of, I don't know Stacey, her whatever. We're going to have next summer because celebrity big brother is back which I am super pumped for. I mean, I think that a lot of us cat Assad coming, but it's nice to have it officially announced and coming back for shore. Yeah, winter of Winston come so slippery brother. Those odd cats reprieve second because I know that terrain was mightily offended by them, poking fun at his profession of choice. Wouldn't you guys think of that? I just feel like intrude big brother, twenty fashion where their definition of technology was murky at best. I think it was the perfect capper at the end of the season to have them to find a podcast as sort of a livestream sort of like a YouTube how to video sort of a hostage video from Angela's like trip to Guantanamo Bay. Apparently. I'd really seems like they didn't necessarily know what aesthetic ever going for here. No, they couldn't decide they had a little bit. Everything like Scotty had the twitch stream thing. Go and Haley had the Instagram live for like frame going. So it was kind of couldn't decide which direction to take it, and it wasn't. Everyone wasn't a podcast, I sure it's all some of them look more like a broad Cadillac news broadcast looked like he was in a news broadcast. I did like the competition. The ultimately it was funny for me and it was fun to see who's going to be what I think Terron was really triggered when Scotty got that twitch one though. Yeah, exactly. Hit him. Weird hurts. So I actually loved it because it just fit with the big brother doesn't really understand technology theme, which was really ultimately the theme of the summer. It wasn't big brother, you know, meets technology. It was like, big brother doesn't understand technology, right? So. I love it. I mean, big brother was essentially the grandparent that calls every week to be like, how do I turn on the cable box? What's what's an like that was essentially big brother the entire season. So I was totally happy with. They're very much living in like this Sam space of, you know, after too, and it comes to technology. Yeah, right. I was actually kind of hoping for the new, your parents like hold the camera too close to their fate to your face to their faces. I was just like sort of their eyes and then half the ceiling is the other half of the screen because that's sort of what you see. I was expecting one of those, but I was pretty happy. I mean, and they were so stupid. And it's so funny to watch them, try to act like Angela was so clearly reading some type of teleprompter cue cards, like see her eyes scanning back and forth, which then goes back to the fact that she was actually kidnapped. Yes, and I did love my favorite might've been Brett's, like Jim Cramer. Mad money style, which again, to pull point isn't exactly a podcast more of a broadcast, but I just love that. Like to that point on the other side of the enthusiasm spectrum, you have Bret who was screaming, devil level eleven for the entirety of his eighty, something days in the house to have them end. The season on that, I feel very apt and he had the sound effects too. I think that was my favorite part of the sound effect buttons. So it was like parodies sorta not like completely flushed out again, totally fits, but I think two point of actually the content of the competition I liked. It actually wasn't a crap, shoot. I know Terron said he likes that idea, but it was nice. Actually. Finally, the days incorporated into the game. I think it was something that was similar to what we saw in celebrity big brother, the first season this past winter, and I for one appreciate it. I'm very good with those. I really enjoy that. I did enjoy that. They have to, they have to earn it. It's the last one that should be the most important one. And as far as technology and big brother goes, I'm really excited for BB thirty when they bring back the technology, and then there's a veto comp with some kind of book cameo parody going on where old house houseguests will send messages in the got to figure out who said what and who it's about. Exactly. That's when Eric Stein rob takeover as show runners for big brother when they finally get the dual hosting role, let's let's serve a pullback the scope a little bit and focus on not only the finale, but the past few weeks of big brother because you know, it has wrapped and we have a lot to get to. But first into Julie, Chen moon vez style. I want to get your thoughts on not only the past few weeks of twenty, but BB twenty as a whole. Looking back. I don't know if either one of you do season rankings, but I would love to go around the horn and hear what each of you think about the season as a whole and if possible, where they rank, let's start with you. All right. So for me, you know, it's hard to rank. There's twenty of them. I got to think about all twenty. But as far as recent memory goes, let's go with when I first started watching live. So from fifteen to now, I do think this was probably the best one would like BB seventeen. Knock in the door. It was really fun. I drove the pre. Jury stuff was amazing. The jury stuff candidate Peter a little bit, but there were so sparks here and there from me that I enjoyed. And as far as as a podcast feed update or goes, this was my favorite one to cover so far in since nineteen out of the United. I mean, BB nineteen. Celebrity big brother be can't six. Then this out of the four been my favorite one, but it really did remind me how much love enjoying this show and taking it in from both the show angle feeds, angle character angle and the internet on on top of that, you know what? The fun stuff you get outta read it, the fun stuff you get out of Twitter. Ultimately, I loved it also just to make sure that I am safe. I love Tanja tangible best couple we've ever seen. They are the lot of my life and the inspire me to be a tangible as relationship. I think for me also, of course, yes, love to Angela tangles. All hail Tanja. I think that there's a tendency to let the past, you know. Four weeks or whatever of the game where things really started to get boring, just stand out and really like, oh my God. Yeah, see, see this season is no different. It's just as boring as all the other seasons. But I think it was MRs crazy for me to say, but the Rica show on Sunday reminded me like, oh my God, this season was awesome. I think because thinking about on my daughter's birthday, the fight with rocks and Brett was so crazy Caitlyn messing up the puzzle. Like really the first two-thirds of this season were dynamite. I mean, they were just so good and you know, yeah, the end of the game was maybe a little bit more on the boring side, but I still think that they're, you know, JC winning that final four h. o. wage a few curveballs that still make it somewhat exciting. And I think also, you know, some people think that, well, you know, Tyler didn't win, and I can maybe put us our taste in people's mouths. But I think when we look back in the season as a whole. It was awesome. And I agree with we like covering it. I was so excited to do the updates, and I can't really say that about nineteen. Now, I know that that's only one season in comparison, but still I thought it was a ton of a ton of fun. Probably in my top five seasons. For me personally, it'd be recency bias which I will admit. But in the moment, that's how I feel top five baby. I would say, I don't know if it would be top five for me, but I would definitely say top ten, which I guess makes it sort of in the top half of seasons. I mean, just breaking things down this cast, say what you want to Abro strategic accurate. Considering that, I think one side of the house might not necessarily have compared to the other side, you think contributed to what you guys were talking about in terms of the internet's growing apathy towards the latter half of the game, but they all brought something to the table and whether it was ironically or on, ironically, I feel like they each have a story. Be told on the show as well, which you know kudos to only the contestants, the editors for doing that as well, because it's tough to do when you're editing show on the fly and you're like, got to come up with the storyline for Klein's. Now what's Klein's doing? It does really feel like everyone sort of had their moment in the game to point. I mean, those first six weeks of the game were dynamite so many me Mable moments. So many viral moments. I would dare say probably the best pre most entertaining phase out of any big brother season. I do wonder how this season would come across on a rewatch because I do think one of the good things about big brother is that when you're not watching it day by day, there are certain things you can almost fast forward through say, okay, we can push this even BB seventeen, which is also held highly regard of if we're talking about like modern, big brother for using a Mons definition of BB sixteen on BB seventeen sort of held up next to it even be seventeen, I think had. A big sag in the middle with the Jackie, Meg James boots, the when the gremlins ended up going out. And so I feel like I don't know. I might be inclined to say, now that this is our fifth season with this twelve thirteen week format. Do we think that that's just going to always be a natural consequence of the way the game is that you know, I would say that PB seventeen might have had a stronger endgame or the strongest endgame out of this final batch. But the fact that all of these seasons have some report where we're saying, okay, next yada, yada, yada. I wonder if that just means that you know, it's not necessarily the contestants or the game play. It's just the fact that the game is so long that there's naturally going to be these types of weeks where we go through the motions. Yeah, I think that long and there's three episodes week, what edited show or written scripted show could even be that interesting. You know what I mean? I just feel like there's so much content that they have to put out there like. How do you not have some weeks that are going to lag that are going to be boring? And I think you know, maybe this is where the twists come in, try to spice things up and make it a little bit more exciting. But I just think with the sheer number of episodes that they have to get out. I mean, you I, of course it's going to be boring from time to time, and that's why I think, you know so many of us go back to our, we need to go back to the seventy season. I think that that's better. Obviously, I really don't think that that's going to happen. So I think we're just gonna have to sort of get used to these weeks that are a little bit of a law. I will say for me though, as covering it too. Sometimes it's kind of nice to have a low week where you're just like, oh, thank God like I can breathe a little bit. So you know, it is nice. But I do say like feel like on a whole, you do have these laws and its overall probably not that great. Yeah. When it comes to this format of having the ninety days or ninety nine days, if you will, it's important to note that this kind of show a really does end up because the more people leave your leaning on, whoever's left to produce the show now for the remainder the remaining weeks. And while the whole Tyler Tyler is really killing it level six is getting to the end as Liana mentioned, aside from the j. c. hiccup JC Wednesday, HOA age. It was pretty much starting to get clear cut, and that was what kind of killed nineteen was come Friday. We knew who was gonna get nominee we knew who was the replacement new who was going to go out and that really put a damper on everything. Obviously, the internet, we've all gotten together. We've talked about what can be changed. You know there's there was this mean thread that was going around of like you have three wishes for the show. What are they? I saw a lot of people mentioned like add more people and increase, put a double vision there. If you're going to put another double vision in there, and I do think that will help. The fact that the double vision this time round came in, we barely got to be almost didn't think we were going to get one because of the Caitlyn thing. It really does. The end game is worth slows down and it does lean on who's left because seventeen you mentioned. Mike. Then game was pretty pretty fun and we had the Austrians we had Vanessa. We had Johnny Mak. We still have people that we were rooting heavily for some of them, and then for other ones that were just entertaining to see how they were going to crack the end game. So there are these things that it depends on and if it doesn't land the way you wanted to let it does get boring does get stagnant and it is difficult to make a good show out of it at the end. Yeah, I will say the double of fiction. I agree. I think it came super late and we were definitely missing an earlier one w we usually do in the game with sixteen players, especially with a buyback. I don't know. It was. It was run those things where for previous like. For previous, unlike the spectrum of double visions between, you know, okay, we know this person is going to go out and they know they're going out to. We don't know this person's going home and they don't know they're going home like judge vixen and BB fifteen fell towards the latter end of the spectrum because while we knew the plan go against bread, read had no idea. And so I do think there was some entertainment value in that that I think put it above some of the other double of actions that we've seen in recent seasons. But I do agree that I think, you know we're about to get into our preseason predictions and we're gonna talk about basically half the cast. There were seven people left for the final three weeks, which is pretty crazy. I do think that throwing in a double Vic vision, you know, early on the season or even to start off the jury, like they do sometimes is a good way to sort of row things up. I don't know if the producers were figuring like these guys are creating their own frenetic energy. Maybe we don't need to necessarily rock the boat in that regard, but still it's a sturdy boat. You can rock it. A little bit Liana. Yeah, I was thinking about that because most of the twists came in the early part of the game where I feel like you've more characters and you're actually going to have probably more chaos just because you know you've more people to pull from as in terms of content. So I know that this is probably not a popular, but I think it will make the end game, you know, maybe more exciting if that's where the twists come into play. So I don't know if we'll see that. But yeah, it's, I think also it's sort of the combination like you're saying about the combination of the people that were there, but they also sort of get fatigue. I feel like, right. I mean, that's what's going through ratio going through fatigue and getting tired and Angela and like Tyler Tyler is just, you know, things are going well. We can let us foot off the gas, but then also it's just hard to do that for ninety nine days. So you know, I don't know how you necessarily combat that apart from making a shorter season, but it, you know, it's gonna be interesting. I don't think that the format really though is going to change moving forward. So I think we're sort of. We're going to be stuck with this for a while. Yeah. What I would advise is I can understand the double feature that was the survivor from Aaron, big brother, finale, but look on how everything played out. I kind of would've liked a big brother, two hour finale and maybe that's something that I take Vaga by all the final product. But I mean, I think we saw it actually vocalized here for the first time this season about, you know how the finalist felt didn't necessarily have enough time to, you know, vocalized their entire ninety nine day game or how we got essentially the first forty minutes was the final three ram which left us very little time for anything else or the fact that we didn't talk to any pre Jour's in spite of the fact that we had probably one of the biggest reality TV characters the past couple of years in Caitlyn. Fortunately, sit there mute the entire time like her late uncle, Lou grandpa, Lou. It was really, really interesting. Finale bolt between the result and the actually actually it was structured out. Yeah, it was. I think two hours would have been necessary. Maybe even longer rob has mentioned like, I've heard on these podcasts that you know moving the final three h part one part two into the recap episode that way you have room here because it's one of those things where they were privy to the fact that there were some shenanigans or some actions that they wanted to implement consider including the pre jury. So knowing that they I, they rushed these two. I mean, we've talked that we talk about how you know it's thirty nine days on survivor. And the final three get the talk for like two to three hours. And then they edit that down to give us enough to fill in a finale. But then here it's live. It's a final two. They've been there ninety nine days and they each get like minus the pauses in the questions of over like six minutes to really put everything into perspective for these people. It's. Not helpful. It's not going to not ask, and it really does take the wind out of the sails. Like the preacher was a lotta fun Caitlyn speaks for itself, but I wanna to know about Steve. The men looks different now use a major role. Sixty pounds. Yeah, secrets surely was summer Steve. Or lack of Steve? I guess we lost a lot of Steve. We love we lost more. Yeah, we lost a lot of Steve in more ways than one exactly not only on the show. So I a lot of people have been complaining about the way that the finale is always organizing the jury questioning. And I think that this was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back and not to sort of spoil a Casuals corner segment that will be coming later. But the casualties were not happy either. And I think that big brother is gonna get so much pushback on how terrible the finale was. I would hope that then they would do something about it because I agree. I mean, this was just this is worse than normal. I think that every everything just felt so rushed yet we didn't even get started Kaitlan I'm sorry, but they need a reunion. So I'm hoping that this is sort of the precipice of the pendulum swing that will then start to swing back. And now we'll be able to get along either a longer finale or Yelm move part one and part two to the recap show. Although, you know the no one's gonna watch the finale obviously, although that's a risk they're going to have to take. Take, but I just, I think now is the time to do it in preparation for next year. I only hope that CBS followed up on. They're just doing a nice sixty minutes full episode interview with Caitlin, like they did with the sitting presidents. Exactly. She totally deserves the exact same treatment. Totally. So let's let's move away from the macro. Talk in more into the micro talk. As I mentioned before, we're gonna go over mentally a bunch of preseason predictions. Talk with someone who's accused of having something micro. I didn't even realize that in saying it, but we're going to go through our preseason predictions for the final seven, Leon, I know you have some other stuff prepared as well as usual. You are the arbiter, but before we get to that, just so I can clarify, I have done nothing to anger. Any of your favorite big brother players? Right? I haven't. I haven't mocked them in any way just making sure. No, no, Mike. And I gotta say, this is the fourth time making an appearance on the BNB, but only the second time I've seen you or talk to you and the last time I did feel like we got off on the wrong foot with the Malcolm kerfuffle as I like to call it. So you are forgiven pardoned, this is a best of seven and the odds being your favor. We'll see. We'll see if it's close as Casey and Tyler. If it says lopsided, as I dunno, Adam adamant Abe of Reiner a baller from big brother. Go to. I don't know why was thinking of a six to say boogieing Eric to there were a lot of six to one votes early on in big brother, not so much lately, but let's get down to it. We'll start with from seventh place Liana. Let's go to you. What did you have to say about Haley? Miss seventh-place preseason? I'm BB twenty. All right. Start off strong. I had Haley making the jury and for her I wrote, she will be shocking comp beasts slash winner. We will see a confessional of her on premier nights, the ink. She felt butterflies looking at Bessie new. And comic book name idea was the blonde bombshell, just so creative. I know I mean, to be fair, you were kind of, I think, thinking along the same lines as the comic people, because I think now that we've actually seen the comics firsthand biddable wont womb in terms of the comments for BB twenty. Yeah, they were really, really dropped the ball here, especially after the blockbuster, that was revenge and all the stuff that went in there last year I feel like they really lacked. I mean, they added the letter t on Winston's name that was his Brett was some Efe cake, which I feel like, you know, with all the other diamonds that bread has given them, they could have done better. I was overall under well, yet. I'm looking at right now having one shows hilly was slam wit. So. Which sounds like sounds like an off brand Denny's menu item. Yeah. A slam l- it is the grits part of the grand slam. It's like the Cuban for the kids. You get the slam lit all that's so cute. Oh my God. Okay. Let's call up Denny's after this and see if we can market this idea. You know, I have Denny's on speed dial, let's face it. All right. So I'll go with my prediction for Taylor here. I also had Haley making the jury. I said she would wear a costume. She would be surprised. Beast in endurance calms she would not be the first to hook up, but the first to get a definitive showman's said her closest closest ally would be Sam woops. And I sent her superhero name would be quote something to do with the costume. She wears girl God damn, who am I. God, what. Mike, this anew, Mike, where see. Ghost rider come in this. Oh my God. I thought this was a slam dunk after Liana mentioned the festive thing. But I think after that last bit with the costume, I think Mike, you're getting point here. You're getting point number one. All right, good star. Good. Start much like Haley's game abo-. It falls apart. Very soon if I get Google is for another prediction here, speaking of which let's move on to the man of the micro our let's talk about Brett's all start with Brett here. So I actually, I had Brett going preacher. Jury. I said that Brett will be the first person ago shirtless he'll be the person to campaign the most to be on the bold and the beautiful. He'll win at least one veto while he's on the block. Wow. I really like that. I said, its closest ally would be Rachel, and I think his superhero name would be captain cyber or the hack slugging slasher frenzies because he thinks people will be shipping him with others and. He's not my what the hell are. Here's what I had for bread. Although I did have him making jury. I thought he was going to be a total douche bro the entire season and all of my predictions match that. Twitter will unearth something offensive. He said in the past roofing, cyber-security skills aren't all that. You'll be one half of a dish bro fight in the big brother house, but more Polly, less Matt Klein's. We'll have a confessional of him on premiere night saying how attractive Bailey is and who I. Yeah, I know I'm blowing it because you want to you to ship BNB Leon. I think it's just naturally part of your DNA conscious, obviously. And then for comic book name idea, I put the hacker tracker. I also don't know what that me. Keeper? Yeah. 'cause he's too. Oh, my God spill supplies. He is. Okay. Puja sill obviously who had the prediction Leon, if you had to guess I think you'd get it right, but let's go through them in depth. So like Yuliana I thought it was gonna be our douche bro. This season. Definitely nothing. He did preseason jumped off the page similar to how we all thought Winston was going to be an amazing winter, right where we were just off on it. I ended up loving Brett, but my you get this point because of the shirtless thing because of the winning veto even the Rachel wasn't his closest ally. Rachel was in his alliance. I'll give you that. And both of you were off on the comic names, but I really can't fault you because these comic names, where was the beefcake. So. I can't remember. I think he's either on the bold and the beautiful or the young and the restless Tyler that was shot in the dark that I was able to connect on like seriously. That's amazing. Yeah, him and Tyler apparently going to be on the bold and the beautiful. So congratulations. Mike. Okay. Really, I'm really excited to see what what that's going to be just because like I think the people get what like one or two lines episodes. So the maybe it'll be like surf Bros. But I wonder what sort of like, because I think wasn't Josh, like a caterer serving Meatball last year. What reference do you think they're going to make? Could Brett be like he'll be in the clinic being like, I've got a case of anal lice, I dunno gotta get rid of it. Dr. I had a picture it as Dale dancers, but that could have been a dream. I have the other day. Yeah. No, I think I definitely think it's going to be like the surfer bro, like type. I just because Tyler like what else do you cast Tyler as you know what I mean? Like I know, right? It's a soap. Operas reality is maybe not a thing that they truly strive for, but still feel like you have to go. Tyler is the surfer bro. I feel I Tyler will be some either clown at a birthday party or a gardener, or plumber or pizza delivery. Boy, that would be great. And then I do think operas, are you watching that have pizza deliveryman in the bland, the beautiful they've been going on forever. They're going to run out ideas of. I like as maybe he likes truly finally lives up to his carrot top comparison that I think of us had preseason. My name's turnip head. Some props, and that's his one line as long as he just like weird bug out is then I'll be happy. Okay. All right. Let's go to. Let's go. Let's go to Sam e one. Sam. All right here comes meet our right. I had Sam making jury, and here's what I said. Although she'll never understand big brother. She will be a lovable character because. She quote brings her own sunshine, and she will also have a mazing quotes. And then I have example from her preseason content quote, you could be a preacher or hairdresser, but hairdressers have more fun, wholesome, Sam. Okay. Then I also said, she'll just chill in the house. Vying her good social game until she's a victim of the double vision because she's an easy target. And then for her comic book name idea, I put Sammy the solder like Rosie, the Riveter, but she's a welder. She sews it. You're actually pretty close because she just though welder. Right. Take it. So, yeah, I think this one's going in your corner, but we'll see. I had Sam also making the jury. I said that she'll get named by Julie as a top vote getter for AFP or af h, but not get it. People will think she's not what she seems like how they thought Kevin was a cop or Donnie was an army commando and she'll win at least one mental competition. I set her closest ally would be Caitlin with her superhero name would be slammed SAMA. That's very Marissa lamb town ish. Maybe she's the mayor s of slam down. I like herb stop you. John Hennigan. Perfect. I think the the Kaitlyn is her closest ally, you know, obviously, really killing it. There. This is law of averages. I have one really bad prediction, so it's finally come back to me, what do you say? Well, I love that you that triangle of Caitlyn Hailey and Sam. You said they're all going to be close allies. So that was that was a nice cookie to find here. I gotta give it to Liana Liana mentioned that she's never going to get big brother kudos jury, kudos lovable character big strike like some people love her. So I can't fault them for that. She did give us a mazing quotes not in a lovable way, but in a home, my God, she might kill someone way. So that was fun too. Pretty much the same thing. Lovable murderer same same. Same same? Yeah. And like your comic was closer. So Liana you get this one hands on. Nice. All right. Let's go to Angela here so I can ask what's wrong with our Angela predictions. All started here. I had Angela making the jury. I said that she would become a perennial nominee in the initial stages of the game. I said the internet will coin her. The resident mean girl of the season. I said she would try to get an all girls alliance going at some point. I said, the women, she'll be the woman to win the most vetoes this season, which was not definitely not sure that I said her closest ally would be Casey, and I had her superhero name the pole. Vaulting pulverize are that's kind of fun. I like that. You know, Angela was super good competitor. So I think you know, it would've been like, oh, yeah, like she won a lot of calms, but just in a season where Casey literally tied the records, this. Look as great. Okay. So I had Angela also making the jury, and I said she was going to be middle of the road character and personality out a second. Juror boring. Oh, so boring. Her comic book name idea was the vixen vaulter or big brother forgot to make our comic because she's so boring. That would be really interesting if she's like, you know how you lost because he was running around looking for Rockstars name when rockstar was there the entire time. Like imagine everyone looking for Angela like, where is she forgot to make a comic for her one day, they'll drop the ball and something he just won't get one. I'd be okay with that. This is this is close gang. This really is close. I mean, you know, Mike, you nailed the head on the internet mean girl, although it was like the first half by the second have no one thought about anymore. She lovable and we love Tanja. We love them. More than Vegas for sure. I don't know if that was possible, but like I now genuflect to their alter. Yeah, me too me too. They made me believe in love again. It's important to me, I guess more just to keep the. Cover our bases gang. Got enough. Do that. The pole vaulter stuff also good Liana though you did hit home with the so boring. So boring. So boring, although she did smell stuff and that was pretty cool. So she has heightened power of scent, so you're wrong there. I got to give it to Mike. Sorry, darn. I will say that smelling segment was like my favorite segment of Angela hands down. Have I talked about this already? I just love that segment so much. It was. It was the only intro segment. So, yeah. House of your favorite. No, I don't know you guys are such tangible support. You would put that above Tyler Angeles, mutual secret that they love each other. Oh, it's crazy. We secret. Man. That's going to be. That's going to be turnip heads storyline in the bold and the beautiful. He's like, wait a minute. I gotta stop my act, beautiful woman in the audience. I have a secret. Do you know what it is? Man. I was actually really sad with many likes the dire, although I guess it was. He said, I guess I'm in love or something like that. Very couched. Romantic, let her know she was the lampshade on another couch now, right. Yeah, the couch one. Okay. Really. We're not to the couch yet, but let's go with quite an interesting character quite the opposite from furniture. Let's get to j. c. so Liana. How did you think JC j. c. I wrote about this in my parade article. I think he is by far I think maybe since Joshi's definitely defied preseason expectations across the board with the internet populist, but how did you feel JC was gonna do preseason. All right. So I said he was gonna make the jury. He was going to be the first person to go streaking in the house. He was gonna win the wall Cup foreshore. Sam, Sam has a word with you because she's pissed off that he did not win the wall. At least we got that like really great gift of him falling off where you still in the lake sort of starfish shape that was truly wonderful. I also said that he was going to be a diary room yeller. And his comic book name was the master of minions. When that was the, that was the most effective thing about JC. Can those true salad this right. Ripe before JC was giving the house the opposite of salad. I also had JC making the jury sort appears. If you and I were higher on him than I think a lot of the other people in the big brother populace. I said he would wear at least one costumer. He's dressed up like a leprechaun or an elf. I said he'll get an entire segment about how nobody knows what he's saying, which I ended up being multiple segments. I said he'll be part of a fake alliance at the other person has no intention of sticking to. His closest allies will be Bailey in his superhero name will be the fancy dancer and his minion. Closer fans and dance. I got a saline on coming into this. I thought this is another season of Mike just getting pummeled in predictions. But with this one, the fact that the fake alliance thing was there. The fact that no one knows what he's going to say was there the Bailey thing not really on par, but not gonna fault you on that and then the fancy dancer wouldn't have got it. But then you had you had the minions in there of that negates Leon us Qasim. So Mike, you win this one. If I'm correct mathematically you got four. So you win. Wow, I win the finale pockets. I don't remember how we really other predictions, but it feels good to get a rare victory once in a while, I feel like I'm Jay c beating the other three members of six game, they know so well, yes. While this are being season had a better ending, brother, twenty. I'm so sad. Well, that's all right. I think it was bound to happen. You know, statistically obviously. Oh, wait. I mean, I threw it. I threw it through it. Don't do that. That's gonna make some people very upset when they say interviews that you through. As I know, first hand. I'm just pulling a page out of Scotties book. This is my revisionist history British for short the predictions. Absolutely. Yeah, it makes sense. Totally totally makes sense. Let's let's let's go to Scotties best friend here. Let's get to Tyler all start with Tyler here because I'm so close. I had Tyler as my winner pick so close one vote away from that noise Leon, I think I'm gonna think I'm gonna make an assumption here that you also had Tyler Tyler. Winter pick on twenty. Twin stones. Twits tins. So we'll see who's more correct on her inaccurate predictions here. I said, Tyler will get a non crippling injury in the first half of the game. I said he'll have one shirt that becomes feed famous for wearing it for a significant amount of time without washing it a lot Judd's bear shirt. I said he'll get deep queued from at least one challenge for not following the rules. I said, his closest ally was Scotty and his superhero name was the rolling tide. Oh, okay. Roll tide. So mine was, yeah, that was like sort of, but not really, I think minus similar. So good luck puja. So I said that even though Tyler moves like an animatronic robot from Chucky cheese, his calming presence will win over the houseguests. He wins just enough calms to save himself and saying control, but not enough to come off as a total copies. But then I said he'll have a mediocre strategic game because quote, he fell off a pool slide when he was a kid and died kinda. For his comic book name idea. I put the Sowa vase. Surfer. So what do you think? I think his comic presence and winning enough calms you got those two mediocre strategy, hobbies, one of stronger Seuss actually. But this is where this is the Mike. I know in love in his this prediction, the non crippling injury that he made up and the feed famous. Sure. Like you went all out Mike, but this shows that you should stick with the other the basic stuff because Liana gets this permit. See my too much detail gotta be basic bitch. I mean to be fair, I guess I close to the shirt was the band. He kept wearing. Another house gets also wore them at the same. The one article of clothing. He was famous for well, NTV heat did not wear a shirt, particularly often not enough for it to become my conic skin feet, famous. Thank you for splitting straighten hairs as it were. But let's let's. It to it. Let's get to our winter winter chicken dinner here, miss Casey Clark. Liana. How did you think Casey was gonna? Do I said Casey was going to make jury, and she is going to sleep until jury. And this she said preseason, she would quote take her Derek to the end. So she will be. K. stupid loyalty all season long, which will annoy the shit out of me. And then for comic with name idea, I wrote something generic stupid. Give up ran out of time or just. That's great. Basically spent the equivalent of like ninety nine days in the house writing these who want to see them just sitting around at the end like I can't wait for this to be over. This is going to be a w in your column no matter what, especially because I had Casey going previously. I said, she'll get the least amount of confessionals out of all houseguests said she'll finish in the top two of at least one endurance comp, I guess if you count the final choice part one that visits. She'll get nominated as a pawn, only get blindsided or closest ally. We'll be Angela and her superhero name will be gridiron girl. That's actually better than I think, probably whatever they came up with her. It was a healthy. Hours? Yeah. All right. Well, you know, just the cap off this season. It kinda ended up being the same Leon, a, you get this one and you lose by four to three and you were probably the Goliath, but the David one case he was the David and Goliath. So congratulations. Casey. I mean, Mike, you on this one. Yeah, I got to pick the games that we were playing the route that we took and I was able to prevail. My bread prediction was like solving a slide puzzle in eight seconds has truly are David Bloom. Oh man. Okay. Well, let's move on from that because I lost and let's move to something else that I was really terrible at which we're the superlative. I went back and religion to support lives that we might you. And I talked about at the very beginning of the season, and let's go through some of the answers that we put for our superlatives. So are you ready to be wrong some more? Absolutely those back during the naive areas where you didn't even know what a group of baseball players were called. That's yes. Baseball players? Yes. My truly have learned so much over the course of the season, how to spell analyze. How to climb a rock wall how to say Yata. It's just stuck on a rock wall. Out to come up with a really rousing song about my best friend and his micro penis. So it's really an educational summer for us. All. So let's cap this off by talking about our superlatives. So for most likely to misspell a word, might you really knocked out of the park here? You said Brett, which that'd be like eight falls under that category because we, we didn't get a spelling competition outside of that unscrambling hacker com. So I guess that's the only thing we can go off unless you like j. c. just miss mainly managing pronunciations of words, right? That's misspelled pronounce. But I said, Fethi. So I'm really sad now that we didn't get the spelling competition really feel like that one. Okay. Harshest burn from Zing Botts. I said, Haley which she did. She get a burn from Zing, but. Let's let's remember just to make sure that they all got, you know she was in the house when she did. Let's see Haley God you were so get reading hamlet, but the real Shakespearean tragedy was your h. o. h. rain. All right. Well, this one, you know, this is a competition, but making it one because Mike said Rachel and shouldn't even get one. So feel like got the. Feel like she got, she got the worst burn from the comic book competition, it's starting to dance or might be the most nonsensical comic book character. I've seen in both internet a big brother, absolutely. No sense. And of course me trying to ascribe a meeting to it spent so long trying to figure it out like, no, what does it mean? This is like, you know, the kid trying to write a book report on the sentence of the door was red and the curtains were white, like, all right. So what's the red door mean? When really there's like no meaning to it at all. Anyway, my life. Okay. It's dance a sword, not date. Kartli on. Yeah. No, no one being hoisted by their own petard in this big brother season, so. Okay. For wearing it wasn't. The Petar was not a costume. Someone had to wear. Was to see my Patil. Yeah. And then that becomes their comic book because we all know on the punishment comic book names, I think we, we have a lot of ideas. Mike, we really get a start right in these down. All right. So for wearing a costume, the petard costume if you will, I said, swaggie, see. But Mike, you said rockstar, and I think she did get a punishment costume. Yeah. Although I think everyone else punished by having to wear swaggie shirts the entire season. That's true, which I feel like then that's like super beta encounter five points in this made up games like twenty points now. Okay. Most likely to bang pots and pans. Mike. Steam. Steve was around the pots and pans out. So quick like. Me. The reasoning was that you thought he would do it in an away to try and get bats and be pissed on getting back. That's that's what your reasoning was. I listened to this podcast. It was interesting also before you move forward. This is also around the same part in the podcast where Mike pitched this idea that he's got, I hope patented by now the smart call unders come. Again at it's the long list of great v. Oh man. Okay. Most likely to be a bitter juror Mike, you said Caitlyn an is faily. So I feel like I get the win there because Bailey was early on the jer. Slim margin though. I also think some could argue that like, oh, it was some people say, oh, as Bailey's vote that you know, one of the game much like same as Cody that one Paul's, but I think there's an argument in their tail and holds water, and that's Mark colander exactly. Isn't flow through the holes. Okay. Most likely to pander to the cameras, which I don't think we saw a lot of camera during. I don't know if that was because big brother would cut away if anybody ever tried to do it. Do we do? We count like the pin wall where they're putting their Instagram handles. Yeah. Yeah, I think that totally counts. Well, then, Mike, you might get this one because you said Fethi and I know he did put up some festive fitness things up there. He also shattered it shattered out in his victory speech as well. Exactly. He's got those bracelets. I said, Angela. For some reason she has an SE store. Oh, yes, that's right. That was your reason for business. Yeah, that's too bad. Those really amidst opportunity Angeles. You should've done more about the business. She was able to craft a love for herself in the course of the game is not the best craft to say. Don't listen to that part by the way. True. True. Artisan being able to build up love within the big brother house. All right. So most likely to eat cereal and be purple. We both said Winston, although Mike, you did add KC of course because apparently Mike had hit of before the season started and was able to predict all of these. I can't imagine Winston being purple and eating cereal. Just eating cereal calmly. Oh, no. Considering I can't remember what who's eviction it was, but when he was just like angrily drinking coffee in the kitchen new just looked so mad. Oh my God. Rice checks are soggy. There's no fruit loops. Okay. And then finally, most likely to be d- are yeller I said, Haley and Bailey. This is me just like sort of covering my bases. Like if I say everyone it'll be okay. And Mike, you said JC. Oh, I went off of your prediction for. AC not even consistent again, maybe just trying to cover my basis. But yes. So those are predictions some spot on, like most likely, bang pots and pans, some not so spot on, like most likely pots pans. All around a lot of fun to look back at sea air boy. Of bed tastic well, let's let's finish up our like requisite stuff on the BNB here. Liana. Did you have any BB BNC breaking news coverage from our post. Finale shenanigans. Sort of wrap up fig rather twenty. Yeah. So well, one, I had Tyler and Brett we're going to be on the bulletin beautiful. So obviously, if you're interested look out for that, the one thing though I did want to mention and this is super bizarre. Describe what happened. So as soon as the contestants were out of the big brother house there, obviously given their phones, it's back and Bessie was responding to a comment on his Instagram page it. It was a Haley STAN account. Vesey responded Haley, pick up my call, whereas Denny's. She was like, oh, you're, you're, you're slam. Let's getting. Yeah, you're getting cold. So I think he thought it was really Haley. Somebody like Bessie that isn't Haley. And then that's Dan account was like SEM not Haley. Oh my God. He is. He's going to be in for a world of hurt if he gets duped by one fan cow, considering how many fan accounts are out there in the big brother community, he's going to be like, Tyler. Why are you saying these things. Exactly. So he's got some lessons to learn. I saw this on read it so credit credit to read it. No. The top comet was if it walks like a Haley in tweets, like Haley, then it's gotta be a alias. Truly beautiful. Thank you for that. Wonderful. Delightful. Vesey just entertaining. In my opinion, from beginning to end he was he's really been the star of the BBC with all the festive fitness stuff. So I'm excited to see what he does. I think he he was also able to poke fun at himself though. I remember it, wasn't there a picture of like level six plus Caitlyn fifty settling. You flipped. Yeah, and he was at the party, the wrap party he was there. There was some videos of somebody yelling, fussy who flipped Ono who flipped. So which I think we saw when he got a victim like he's to have a really good sense of humor about himself about all their mess ups and screw up. So I think it's gonna be excited exciting to see what happens with the future of ESI fitness going to be keeping a close eye on that. But in terms of everything I have right now, that's all I got for the BBB and see. We've got the recording this actually on the big reality TV bash weekend in me which features most of the big brother twenty cast. You have any bold predictions as to how things are going to go for the cast that literally just left the house in the city. Do you have any beautiful predictions of what's Kappen. All right. So. Okay. Okay. Bolt predictions. I think one of them will lose their phone. Someone's losing a phone this, no, this this trip is not going to go by without someone having to get a whole new phone altogether. And if I put money on it, I'm gonna put it on j. c. losing his. And then as far as beautiful predictions, Tyler Angela are going to light up the entire city with your tangible Boehner. All right. Hey, it's not mine worship. It's a collective share. We all love them. We all have a collective Boehner. Yeah. Figure out a portmanteau for Tandel in Boehner, but it's over now. Oh, no. Angel owner, toner Gillette. Oh, man, yeah. Owner sounds like a like a bad, like off brand fruit that you the the back corner of the store. With your slam lit, you can get a site of handle on owner. I don't know if I trust that it's pretty not in season at all season just ended. Well, we couldn't do a bean see without doing one last visit to our corner of fan fiction. So I have one more little piece of fan fiction because you wouldn't be able to appear on the BB BNB without getting to hear some of this is one by Heke ING. RAD that I saw a couple of weeks ago when I was preparing for the previous alley Lascher, but actually found it applies much more here because this is cold flooded thoughts, and it's a cross romance between Bailey and Tyler. And I feel like considering the way things turned out, it's very apt for this occasion, hit me with it, man. I completely forgot. This was gonna happen on really excited and happy to have an ashtec's shocker for you here on the on the bean beef Bonaly. All right. Here we go. Barely lied in her h bed staring up at the ceiling you how this week was going to go. The high of was dwindling down fast for swaggie than Caitlyn rockstar Fessel and Scotty. Okay. So I guess this is an alternate universe in more ways than one where Bailey was the one who survived at the high massacre and now it was only her and Haley battling for the big brother crown and with Bailey as reigning HOA age. They can make a game altering decision. It was no question about who should be target. It should be the main leader of the other side of the house Tyler. The only one in the house winning comes left to right the only one in the house playing an obvious puppet master. The only one in the house that everyone could agree would most likely win. The big brother crown, but something in her wouldn't let her make that move? What was it? Why was it there? She knew what moves she had to make to win, but she let herself through that for the past few weeks. She in Tyler had grown closer after. Swaggie him ruined her name in the house. The Wiki left Tyler was right by her side, comforting her swaggie tried bragging to the whole house. About how quote unquote easy she was and how good she was in bed. Of course, none of that was true. She hit only kissed once the got victims. She was distraught and confused Intel. There was right by her side stroking her back and whispering comforting words into her ear while she'll never know why Tyler comforter her that day. She does know that it changed for outlook on him completely ever since then they got an insanely close. They did almost everything together. They would swim together, spend countless hours talking sleep in the same bed and hell. Sometimes they would eat off the same plate. Considering what I heard about Bailey's story with brenten the burrito, isn't that something that she likes to do just like sniff and take other people's food. She just knew that he was her best friend in the house. Everyone could tell everyone pointed it out and you're maybe there were stronger feelings for him than she led on. Maybe there was something romantic hidden behind the scenes, but she knew that it would never happen. Tyler was focused on the game. His mind was dead set on that half a million and nothing she could do change. That wasn't just a player came to win. And with every competition only got clearer. He wasn't there to mess around to get into a show, Mance. He wasn't there for her who knows how long she laid in that bed, who knows how long he thought about an she'd saw about her nominations. She just knows that every thought she'd have about the game always came around Tyler, just Tyler. Billy's is flashed open, losing her train of thought as she looked towards the screen that showed the front of her h room door and there as one would guess is the boy himself. Tyler Crispin Bailey rolls herself off the bed and fix the wrinkle in her shirt, walking towards the door and opening it her heartbeat lightly against chest as she opened to reveal the curly haired boy, her heart flutter for him, hey, he said is she greeted him and moved assigned to let her in just came to hang out, then you're going wild out there. He said on the bed, leaning against the headboard and watch Bailey. I should close the door. What do you mean as she cocked her head to the side and asked him sitting on the bed next to him. You know, he said, as she leans her head on his shoulder, his head on top of hers, just being generally annoying God, what do you do now? She laughed everybody in the house dislike JC, especially after what he did to Tyler and Hayley. Tyler brushes hand against hers on on their knees as he spoke to her, making her heartbeat harder and her chest. Oh, you know, aiding hot food and ice cream. Even though he's have not getting mad when people call him out for it. Bailey roller is last fucking j. c. I swear. I just want him gone at this point. She could feel Tyler races head off hers and turn his head towards her as he asked how you do with Nov. You're not stressing out right? They closed her eyes inside as she lifted her head off of Hayes and put it into her hands as she sat up from her position laying against the headboard I don't. I don't know what Ty I know one JC out, but him being out, doesn't benefit my game at all. I know I should be targeting someone big like Angela, but I know you're allied with her Abbott, put her up as a pond by, no, that she take it the wrong way and probably put me up when she gets h wage. Tyler, put his hand on her back and rub it up and down as she continued like I would consider putting you up upon since I know you would entice. Get me and you would most likely not go home, but if you did, I would be so distraught and like confused and she'll let it a heavy grown, rubbing her face, dressed Tyler, slung his arm over her shoulder and hunter, close his chest, pulling the two back to lay down their heads on the pillows, her head in his chest and his arm around her neck, rubbing her shoulder with his thumb. Please don't stress yourself out over this. Everything's gonna be okay. You can trust me want me to talk to Angelo about her being upon I will. He said in a soft voice, she could feel the genuine, genuine knee genuine ity in his voice, it lull Turin more and more the more they talked and she looked at him with a gentle smile and smile back in the same way. I really appreciate that tie. She said she buried her face into his chest and hugged him closer to her. She always felt safe around him. She knew she could go to him for anything and everything. He was her rider. By her number one, not even Haley or last alliance member was above Tyler. She trusted Tyler with not only her game, but her life is well evening Tyler with the same. Right. You would be right tunnel. Title he would ever meet someone like Bailey, all his life. Girls would play him. They use them for a few months and then drop and like he was nothing. Girls would use them as rebounds, they would cheat on him. They would mentally abuse him over the years. He made himself belief. You wasn't worth being loved. Being in the big brother house didn't help that the whole game is about lying and playing others. He told himself nobody could be his friend, let alone a romantic partner apparently was different billing me, feel safe. Genuinely safe, felt like she was someone he wanted to take with him as entire life if wanted her to be his is heart pounded ESI held her close to him his space, probably flushing read it was smitten for her any dreamed how she felt that she felt the same for him. They would brush hands share Bez and cuddle all the time. There was no way he cannot feel these feelings for her. She was genuine, may Tyler feel loved and safe. He couldn't help how we fell for her. He wanted her to. Stay as much as he wanted to win big brother season twenty. He was rooting for Bailey. One hundred percent of the time. She was so much more than half a million in his eyes. She was priceless. She deserved the world and so much more as he lied there with her. He felt like he was back home. It was familiar and warm and he wanted to stay there for ever. He didn't wanna show Mance with her. He wanted something real, something genuine, something like that was rare in the big brother show with everything that has happened in his romantic life. He he really hope that if anything happened between Bailey and him, it would be real in forever. So they both lie there with pounding hearts and flooding minds. Wondering if the other felt the same. The ban. Oh, I know, but, but now what. Literary blue balls. Visit a medical term for that. You should listen to the. The Notre Mike. This. This was this was a passionate, one. Wait, I'm get views. What did JC due to Tyler and Hayley, I think that's room for a sequel prequel to what happened with Tyler and Hayley that JC was trying to get between them like you did with Tyler and Angela or might be doing with Tyler and Bailey. But yeah, there's, that's. That's something that goes on spoken of apparently. Also, I think the should consider pitching this to MasterCard. She's priceless. Three h h wins, seventy dollars America's favorite prize. Five thousand dollars spooning with baileigh priceless that that accent than pression role. Good. Mike, I think one of your best. Better than the Scotty versus Brett. The morph into a Brent one, though, kind of job. I was gonna say that that was my thing was a pointed, sounded like Brett appointed sounded like that drunk yelling guy from the Simpsons. So it was a little bit of everything. So it's been of a treats Trump Barney. Yeah, Barney, yes. That's the one. Overruled. Bart. All right, that's fine. Hopefully we'll have if not survivor fan fiction. Definitely some more big brother fan fiction dip into future BNB so we can do more cross comparisons as to what my voices sound like, but thank you hitting RAD for giving me permission to read this as all the other fan fiction writers giving us plenty to pore through. Again, this is part of the big brother, thank community. I did not know existed until doing this BNB ended. His been a delight to read them, hopefully as much of a delight for you to listen to them. Yes. Okay. Sorry, I was. I was thinking about the story, Mike, sue me. Actually before we before we move on, I want to speak not about Tyler and Bailey, but I will say, you know, I was happy to talk with the final three the day after everything happened. I think what I was genuinely most surprised with with Tyler was not only how sincere he was about, like the mistakes he made in the game. But you know, Terry makes this point that Tyler sort of played on people's emotions rather than their logic. And I think that's just because from what I perceived, how a very emotional person to the point of where as bluetooth before he told me that not only did he throw the final four veto. But if he was in the final three with Casey and Angela, he would throw the final h. o. age because he wouldn't want to make a decision between, you know, his best friend and his show Mance, which, again, I don't know if that speaks towards necessarily his strategic accurate, but I at least was a bit surprise as to how outwardly emotional Tyler admitted. He played his game. What do you feel about that? I feel like I'm. I'm not really shocked to be honest, we, you just pointed highlighted and we've seen him do it all season where he is a guy who feels, and the reason others felt close to or felt like they could trust them was because he, he emanates that that's what people get from him. Also for me, the other factors, maybe this is another one of those things where if this season we talk about how being the big brother house with people, these relationships are getting you're getting closer and closer to people by the second, you're with them literally every second of every day, if it was three weeks, shorter, would he be feeling the same way? I don't know. Maybe most likely, but that's another factor for me that I would have to consider is that that's three extra weeks with less people less game on his mind and more just, you know, farming these relationships and getting closer with Angela, getting closer with Casey, like we made it all the way. This far he's an emotional guy. I understand him from that point. I feel like I'm kind of similar in that sense, but. Ultimately, I can't really fault him because he got trapped into this thing that he had made. He closely before game ended up being more than game to him. Yeah, I agree. I co-signed I think that totally makes sense. I think he is just inherent in his inherently personality is one that is so emotional. And so the fact that he's sort of played in a motion game. I mean, I think there are so few people that can play a different game than who they actually are as people. You know what I mean? I think that and that's why like a lot of the strong players are a little bit more cutthroat in their own personalities also. And so I think for him, like his strength was the emotional game, but then he sort of LAX's ability to then step back and think strategically and put emotion to the side because he's just so entrenched in how he feels. And I think that's why you know you couldn't see him, maybe make some of the harder decisions or people at certain places. And that's why you know we talk about, oh, why did he take Casey so long while men now kind of makes sense? Right. He was just so emotionally tied to her that he could never make that cut even though we all wanted him to, and we saw him. Strategic player. Really. He was more of an emotional Blair. I thought it was interesting just because you know, when Dan tweeted out right out for the finale of like, oh, you know, the muck Iavelli and strategy players that they're not able to win brother anymore. I feel like that's a different conversation, but I feel like from what we're saying, I don't think you can put Tyler in that boat. You know, I feel like he made moves, but I feel like it's a different category than you know, triple d. Dan Dr will and Derrick doing which was more social manipulation than Tyler, who just seemed like he genuinely got along with everybody and was able to utilize that trip to the. Yeah, it's one of those because that's the thing we're Tyler to. It's like when you get close to people like that, it burns more hurts more like we're talking about how you know the Liana mentally more cutthroat people. You see them, they're just game. It's all game. If Tyler stands up, it was all game. They're not gonna feel that way. Because of the close connections, he's mate. And then also these are not just game moves for him because obviously he felt close enough to KC and Angela that he just couldn't put himself in a Sophie's choice situation where you had to pick one of them. He couldn't do it. He couldn't stand up there. Look them in the eye and do that. So I don't think he's in the same league in that sense. I'm getting comparisons to like the mom archetype, right? Like emotional connections, and you use those emotional connections, you know, they're genuine, but you still have to play the game. This is just the sort of surfer bro male version of that archetype, I think which actually that's super cool to think about it right, because now it's how do we, oh my God. Do we think that we okay. Sorry, I'm having lots of thoughts that are all happening at once and it's kinda like a fireworks explosion to my brain. Okay. So do we think that as a community, like which game do we say we value more? I feel like I hear people talking more about like how good Tyler's game is, but like what? If it is super sim. To sort of like mom archetype game, but we're not valuing them because of gender inequality disparities. Oh, my God. Wow. I feel woke right now. So so woke. So woke Jesse from big brother, Canada, six is smiling right now for no particular reason. I think that it's a really good point. I feel like it's a conversation that can definitely be had as to like the degrees of social game because I feel like what you're saying on a sort of speaks towards, there's a gradient of, you know, the way you play with the relationships you're making with people, and it's a, it's a sword. That cuts both ways. And I talked by this Tyler, my interview as well about like you make these bonds people which helped further in the game at the same time, the closer you get with the person, the harder it's going to be when you cut them to have them, then turn back around and say like, you know what good game and was able to do that with a couple of people. You know, he was able to do that with someone like Brett. He was able to do it to a certain degree with someone like Haley. But it seemed like for the most part, other people, Scott in particular, who would seem like what someone that a lot of people were confused on with his jury vote that that definitely cut him that you know he, he felt good by the fact that he felt extremely close to Tyler, and that it was an injustice that his friend ended up cutting him without at least giving him before thought as to warning him. Or, you know, basically saying like, you saved your game instead of our relationship, which is a really obtuse way of looking at it. But I do feel like when it comes to perceptions and the way people are received in comparison to their social game, there is something about, like, you know, maybe something as well about if Tyler was perceived as this big recruit, do some super fans feel like, oh, I got blindsided by this guy who hasn't even seen big brother. Do I want to give them the money. Well, I think also part of it, we would talk about jury management is like being able to assess what type of person you're sending to the jury and how they're going to vote and how they're going to be h-have. So you know, talk about, oh, the best time to explain your game is in the goodbye messages, but that may not be applicable to every single person, right? Scotty is going to vote for very different reasons than a bread. And so being able to as a player, you have to break down how these people are going to vote and how they're gonna vote differently and how you can then you know appeal to them for your game game is your game, but how do you sell it? What's the narrative that you craft you send them off the jury house with? And obviously it can be tainted by the jury members, but I think it's just important part of the conversation that not all jury members of the same and you have to treat them all differently. Oh my God. Well, like meaningful discussion, having large AP and be crazy. Yeah. The thing with Tyler too, is that we saw him try guys. We did see him try to jump out of that shell and Seymour cutthroat when he says it has got to go tell your friends. I had the second power up which the power of the fact that he thought it was so important. It was just funny for me to keep watching that. And then also the whole one step at two steps that these not only to me. I feel like to the audience felt very authentic to what we had seen. But perception is nine tenths of this game. He's he's sending them out seemingly everyone. Cuddly mama, bear type. You know everyone comfortable with him confides and then he does those things which don't stick. So it's one of those things, whereas he's watched the show. He knows the grates. He knows what he needs to do. He's trying to give us, you know, showmanship good TV. But if someone like Brett was the one who was doing the wants to. That would have fit his character perfectly. Yeah, I think it's about this also segues into a bit of like why how Casey one is because I think authenticity and sticking to like what your perception is is a good example of it as well. And there's certain ways the winner of trillion survivor twenty sixteen is a person who can in the in the final turn say, like, you thought I was this, but I'm actually this. But like you said, Casey was pulling quote herself the entire time. She always approach people in the same way. You always knew how she would pave and as a result, like you always sort of knew where she lied either one side or the other as opposed to, like you said, puja when you have Tyler, try to sort of rise above his image and do these other things that come across as almost authentic, and it comes across as phony by not maybe phonies too extreme of a term, but it saying like, I knew this and now you're behaving like this. This leaves me very confused as opposed to someone. Casey who was very straightforward and now worked for her because everyone sort of said, yeah, that's Casey. I goal reliable, Casey, I'll give her my phone. Yeah. Well, I actually had a friend over for the premiere and the finale and we were talking about this because we always talk about like, oh, if the Philip shepherd or let's say like the crazy Kook character gets to the end. And then all of a sudden, well, actually I was playing all of you. I feel like the jury is just gonna be more confused, so, and then they're not gonna vote for you. I really don't think that that's a strategy to win. So sort of Mike to your point is of just like you just gotta. You gotta just be authentic and be who you are and maybe like ride that all the way to the end in any sort of deviation trying to explain your game, at least especially with the way the jury formatting is now is just not possible to explain. So you know it's like better safe than, sorry, just stick to who you are caricature of. You. Compared to someone like Andy who also was like he, he was somewhere spot with Tyler where like everyone seemed to be with him at some point in time, I feel like he was able to couch his thoughts in a way to say like, hey, I'm sorry, I had to get rid of you, but it was for the betterment of my game, but he did it in such a way to everyone was like, okay, that makes sense. That's not exactly going outside of the Andy, we know and love. Now, granted, it also depends on who sitting next to as well by comparison. But I feel like if you wanna good example of someone who is also able to really, you know, ride that social game workhorse, but also able to turn it around bits while still holding the reins and say, okay, now I'm going to use this sort of build a good case for myself at the end. That's a great example of it. Yeah. But I think also, you know, one thing Andy didn't have the Tyler Tyler had that sort of dumb surfer bro. Where I feel like Andy was ever perceived as dumb. So then when Andy makes a move that's in his best interest, it's like, oh, yeah, okay. I can see it. Whereas, you know, win Tyler out. Brett like JC was like, why are you so stupid? So I don't know if that was the perception of like, oh, Tyler, just messed up or Tyler didn't really know what he was doing and they couldn't take him seriously even if he did try to explain. So I don't know. I don't know. It's difficult to little bit minutia, but so. Okay. Who are right all that. All that serious discussion. Let's move into something another corner if you will, the casual so many corners in this room right now. We're only allowed to have four unless we somehow can get to the ceiling and then I guess we'll have eight, but. Okay. So we are going to tap into Casuals corner, one more time to get the Casuals opinion on the season. And here's what I will say. The big brother Casuals are way less than the survivor Casuals because big brother Casuals are like, I found myself agreeing. I was like, I wanna like these. But like where the ridiculous comments. But I still think it's going to be a lot of fun because I was able to pull some different perspectives. And so the format for this casual corner is going to be which one had more likes. So I'm gonna read Jew, comments that were on the survivor survivor, big brother, Facebook page, and you have to tell me which one had more likes. Okay. So Julia, we will start with you for this first question and this is the opinions on the winner. So why are people so upset that Casey one, she was a beast competitions. She didn't have to get her hands dirty and she knew it Tyler wanted to be making deals left and right, pulling strings all around him. So he got tangled up at the end or be CBS, you cost Tyler, the game, you've rushed everything. So swaggie can have more TV time tonight wasn't him wasn't about him. It was about the final three then to them. The winner. Tyler speech at the end was rush and cut off after Casey, whole speech, good job, CBS poem face emoji thumbs up emoji. So which comment had more likes a. Likes Nossa reactions, angry, sad, whatever I I didn't actually look through, but I picked comments that had like heart or laugh face coaching, so responsive. But yes, it is total. It is a lose to think that these Casuals would really want to give the likes to Casey. I think they'd be giving more likes to the Tyler things I'm going to go with beat. That is correct. So Harrison, the first post had one like. And the second host had one thousand one. Yeah. Casey did hover advocates, but every comment about Casey was couched with. Oh, tie. Tyler played a great game, but really happy Casey wants. So you know, it was like a lot of that. So it was hard to find though is like just pure positive for Casey? Immediately not liked opinion. I liked a though, because I feel like it would've been better though if he said instead of Tyler getting tangled up at the end, you could say Tyler tangible or not at the angle up at the end? Yeah. Okay, mic this question is for you. So this is about the format of the finale a worst finales ever to be attention away from people fighting for the win, be bad. Finale we should have to boot Alison. Poor, finale poorly, scripted produced, etc. Have worst finales ever to quote another Simpsons character that I'm apparently doing impressions of now. And bad finale as if they're scolding the finale. Who I mean be sounds alerting because it has so many fun statements in there like boot Allison and poor. Finale, but I'm gonna go with a because it's simpler. Yes, that was correct. A had one hundred and forty three likes be only had two overall. Finale was widely despised. So this is why I have hope that if if the Facebook Casuals are complaining, maybe we will get some change, but we'll see. Okay, who? Yeah, this question is for you. So this is overall impressions on the season. Hey, this season was weak, dot dot, dot dot. We need people who aren't afraid day one to call people out dot dot dot, no back door crap or be. I think this was the best group of houseguests since Jeff Jordan's. It was interesting all the time. I'll be be eleven fan. Okay. Would you rather option eight or option? B. I'm gonna want to go with b. I don't think the top ones going much, hey, I think I think the j. Joe, yeah, that's actually correct one at sixty. One likes compared to a which only had six guys thing by the way about Jeff crashing the brunch to be like, you guys don't know how to judicata brunch. I'm gonna do it for you. It was actually made by rob. I liked it more because it felt more natural. If they were telling Jeff the story of the season versus them just being like, hey, guys, you remember when this happened. So I think maybe you could pick somebody else. Although a lot of people like Jeff, obviously, given comment be that this was the house Gessen's Jeff Jordan. So what do I do? I'm just so happy. I got a new piece of a cabbie Lowry in my lexicon. Now Tiki Tiki I've no idea that was thing. I'm gonna say it all the time. Remember to use that key. In the house. Okay. Sorry. Next question. This is for Mike. This is for the format of next season. A BB Twenty-one should be a houseful of bitter jurors from over the years or be I would love an all-star season, but with all second runner ups playing, wow, these are extremely specific third, third players or extremely bitter jurors. Yes, I love the second one because it's like Victoria versus JC versus Manasseh like, yeah, like over just Christmas. Had some interesting there. Got you. Got Diane. Henry in there, you've got John l. two times we'll have to clone her. You got big Sheila, you've got Jerry. See isn't. And I feel like every time Dan post something, it's always like, Yep, Jerry's ready to play again. So if they want to do it, I think this is an option. So by that logic, I feel like it might be. No, actually be a actually got zero likes, whereas Bhagat nine people on the Facebook page wanna like the bare jerseys. No, although they were claiming bidders. So you know, obviously they, they don't like them. So obviously they're gonna vote or something like that would be on the bitter jerseys in. So I guess for like if the BB movie posters are any decay. Shit. I guess you get like the entirety of the nineteen jury will make up half the house and then who would be in the other half of the house. I feel like many oven nessa definitely falls under that could put a jig Giacosa in there. Trying to think. I'm trying to think about who else he could put some of the fourteen people in there. I mean, Sam, obviously, from this then Scotty, Scott Scotty, God equally disaster. All right. IV to- both of these from production, it'll be the best season since Jeff and Jordan best. Okay. So puja this question is for you. This is about rockstar, a all. The matters to me is that neither Bailey nor rockstar one a dime or being how dare they show highlights two months after rockstar stutters. No, this was a game of which one did you write? I feel like that's an easy indicator. Giveaway. I, it's interesting because I feel like I should say the second one. The second one is runaway miles ahead and it's an injury. People love their. Enjoy the Facebook. We found out the Casuals love that joke to death, but I think you're trying to full me. So I'm gonna go with a because people were pissed at Bailey to for the proposal stuff that is correct. That comment had four hundred and forty five lights. Oh my God compared to only three. Look, it's understandable by don't think the proposal was Bailey's fault. I think it was also also given everything that happened to Bailey and swaggie, which was revealed yesterday for those that don't know. Actually, the speculation slash sort of joking about there being a pregnancy was confirmed when it turned out that Bailey was pregnant, but she miscarried in the jury house, which is absolutely horrific. My heart goes out to both them at the same time a bit torn because the proposal was a little fame Hori, but the same time it was a horrible situation. I know like I don't wanna make jokes, oh, bad. But I know I can't because it's like what happened was horrible. When I saw that video yesterday was kind of one of those moments and the scar real like they had to deny thought about, you know how much stuff they had to have dealt with the fact that Bailey ended up getting all her friends one by one in the jury house must have helped or lots on. Glad she had support that she wanted there. So that worked out well on the fact that. So another thing I saw was that she found out about her pregnancy that day before the house meeting Tyler. So that kind of change that from using? Oh no, that's brutal. So all in all, it was just a shock to hear. I'm glad they have each other, you know nothing but happiness for them. Alta do after saying that proposal was straight up, like I'm going to steal the spotlight goes swaggie didn't even do a decent job at it. You know, are beautiful. But like it did come off like he's been planning this and it did come off a little q Cardi. How did he do a bad job? What was he supposed to do? No. Have something to say, and I'm, I'm gonna stand up for it knows like, why is it coming off? Like issued be more natural is what I think I like to Angela g. like is this proposal. Jaycees phase was also so good too, because jaycee is just like confused confused, slightly disgusted. And then. Face palm. I love Brett's who's just tearing agape Fethi is just like looking at him like what intrude festive fashion. So like the again with all the news, it's absolutely horrifying. My heart goes out to them. But if you wanna look screen shots and gift from the actual proposal reveal, it's it's it's kind of fantastic. All right. So let's move onto our final question. Mike. This is for you. Has won the game, but we'll let you take a final stab at this last question. So this is about Paul. Okay. They did Tyler just like they did. Paul laugh emoji laugh, emoji cry, face, laugh, emoji, cry, phase laugh, emoji crisis laugh. But I liked Paul more glad Casey one dot dot dot, but oh, well, dot dot dot. Now it's hashtag survivor time or be there's this lady named karma and she came back to bite hard just like she did all friendship guy. Maybe comic void. I'm sure he would have preferred anything to potty mouth, so right. It's a game for entertainment purposes only dot dot, but hurt much. Push Moore question Mark. Why wondering if talking about a lady called karma is that actually Caitlyn's old boyfriend, Joe because Carmen the song. Okay. So this is my mind, win reading comments. I was like, oh my God. So we just quoted Ireland. I gotta pull it, and then it was like read more. And I was like, no. But I liked old friendship guys. So I really like to, but I don't know of a like as more generic. I wonder if they would go with the more generic opinion. Can you read it one more time? Yeah, they did Tyler. Just like they did. Paul laugh emoji laugh. Emoji crisis laugh. Laugh, laugh moti, but I liked Paul more glad Casey one dot dot dot, but. Oh, well, thought it's now it's hashtag survivor time. So I'm wondering, you know, they do include that glad Casey one opinion in there, and I feel like those are the ones that don't get as many likes. So just for fun. I got an end on on an answer that I like, so I'm going to go with the old friendship. I'll go with b.. I wish that one we're true. No, though one only had two to the sixteen likes on comment a so. But I think from now on out, I'm gonna call Paul friendship guy guy fringe guy. But anyway, I actually have one more that I was gonna use his tiebreaker. Although we congratulations you, you're the winner, three one, but the tiebreaker actually what was really funny because so this is a comment as far as y'all who are seriously hating on the airtime that Christopher Bailey's proposal took up. I have to ask if instead Tyler had planned out a proposal that Angela and up that much exact airtime. Would y'all be reacting the same negative way? Would there be so much negativity hate and anger question Mark? It had ninety seven likes. So anyway, I thought that was a real wiring puzzling. That's the surprisingly adept for the Facebook page for someone to point out the hypocrisy that can come with the phantom and they're shipping. See, this is why hate them. They're like self-aware. It's awful. Yeah, just stupid stuff and helping segment. Asking for the website for the nip slips for big brother guys, not there. Exactly. Surprised that he did not respond. If if if they were doing if you're doing casual tweets, festive would be like, Haley. Why did you say that? About two Tyler winning. Segment for next summer when we do the BBB and be for twenty one, it's going to be the best tweets game. To the Rupert tweets game. Fantastic. Well, then that makes me look forward to so many reasons for the and BNB because we're going to close up shop here at least for big brother to allude to the comment. From the last question, we do still have some survivors stuff going on Liana. How can people follow you on social media and check out these survivor base worth that we're going to be doing through the fall here? Yes, so you can follow me on social media. I am at Liana Boris l. i. b. o. r. a. s. and survivor is hashtag back or now attached survivor time. Beckley on don't say back. Trigger word. All right. So we're not going to get on that boat, but out too. Four this season of survivor, Mike, and I will be covering survivor as part of the survivor BNB and we are actually going to be recording later on today with our guest Rourke Lesquin, which I'm super pumped about. I think it's gonna be a ton of fun to cover everything from the premiere episode. And of course, you'll be continuing throughout the season with our coverage and Pooja. Thank you so much for coming on going through all seven preseason predictions on it. Hi, wrote off making some bold and beautiful prediction as to how Las Vegas we're going to go. I always enjoy having you on. I'm glad you said we get an opportune moment for the two of us to actually talk on a podcast together. So thanks for coming on and lighting up our lives. For this final podcast. Your guys Tanja yours. We're having a tangible owner for you right now. Thank you. Yeah, no, I love. I love stuff like time capsules and that kind of thing. So to come back and reflect on your guys predictions from before the season, I'd love that. So I'm really happy. I got to be here. Fourth appearance on at the BNB always a five star stay. I want to leave with one question for you guys. Rawson Marissa. Did this for their wrap ups that they were doing in the backyard? At the end, I want. I want you guys to each name of celebrity. You wanna see in the upcoming celebrity big brother season. Ooh. Can I vote not Metta world peace. That's your pick just anyone. World peace. I would like I would love Gus. Kenworthy cosc- is he's such a big rupaul dry race fan, and he is very, very sassy. So I feel like either him or Adam Rippon would any of the any of the Olympic athletes would be a good fit in the post. So cheese CB two. I'm still holding out hope that miss New York, Tiffany Pollard. Because I love her also any drag Queen I would with because I feel like there's so many that you could choose a. Koffieh listen Edwards, Netflix series drops next week. I feel like it's a, it's a perfect way to catapult her into the limelight. I feel like it would be. I don't know. It would be perfect and hopefully if New York's on the show, I will provide the stipulation that she has to be on with someone named David replied another another hopeful, big viral moment. That'd be wonderful. Also Mike white. Surviving on just getting just get him just do the whole pantheon while we're at it mayor slam town. I don't know. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm actually really looking forward to celebrity big brother. I think the shorter season, it's just like, I remember in the winter. It was just like this three week, just crazy bend or that was so much fun. And you know, I hope that this is a repeat high hopes, but let's my expectations low. But yeah, I am looking forward to, but who who would you pick to be on the season? Oh. Happen around the question back. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know that what's his name from the OJ trial was in the audience if you like, that might have been like a snippet of Cato Calin. Yeah, yeah. And he's into living in like beach houses and slumming it. There you go. That would be one. No, I think we should get. Cedric the entertainer. Oh no, it's visit from Grover. Johnston, I I can only hope so that's that's the dream. We're three days away from that premier to some excited for that, or how do you know that it's all every commercial break. Embedded exactly. It's it's branded into our heads. Thank you. CBS. Well, can always follow at checkout. All the great Casey has route this reality TV season. You can follow me at a Mike bloom type. If you haven't yet check out all the exit press. I did what those final seven contestants, including talked with the final three. 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And hopefully lately on could be a quick and dirty celebrity big brother, two. But maybe if we'll have some y- initially on it to do at least a couple of those as well. Yeah. All right. I'm down. Yeah, we'll have to do some. I'm sure the caz. We'll have some definitive thoughts about celebrities and we'll see response celebrity accounts the way he response to stay in accounts. Oh, yeah, I just got I, I write down all the fetchy fitness. We're going to do a whole show on just you, wait. There will be a little offset rebuilding a little section for festive specifically, but thank you all again, so much for for listening all season long. Thank you too. Big, brother, twenty for being such a fun season to talk about, we'll be talking about survivor very soon. If not, you'll probably Hurace in the next year, talking about big brother in some capacity. Consider this a tougher now, if you will. Thank you so much. Liana puja great work as per usual. 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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 9 with Akiva Wienerkur

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Survivor 37 Episode 9 with Akiva Wienerkur

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I actually really liked that analogy of us just like gnawing on the leftovers. That's all we get. We get like the table scraps. And I'm thankful for this table scraps. Absolutely. All the goliaths are sitting at the adult table. That is the David's are like fighting over the last advantage. I'm we're so happy to bring this guy. Back co host of Robin. Akiva need a podcast as well. As the three to fans podcast. We're happy that nobody decided to step up notify his appearance here on the bean be Akiva winning ker. Welcome back. How you doing? Wait, am I the table scraps? No, no. You're the whole meal your snack. Tristan almost that. I've never been called the snack. Yes. I was thinking I think maybe more for my -nology of like, oh, we sit at the kids table. So. Yeah. Maybe you you are not the scraps. But you have to sit at the kids table and entertain us because we have no toys. Yes. I was telling I was telling him coming on my thanksgiving was very plentiful. It was like much like actually a survivor merge. We had fifteen people instead of thirteen and we also had like five dogs one ring around a three year old child, and it was my task to entertain said child because their parents her parents decided to not bring any sort of toys or entertainment devices or other children to play with essentially how to sort of running a defacto survivor challenge for just sort of like the hot pursuit challenge where you sort of try to lap each other. It was just us running around a my in-laws house in circles for about half an hour. So I feel slightly more well equipped to go onto survivor and more well equipped to encounter parenthood as well. We're her parents supposed to just go find another child you save at like children easily to together. I dunno. It keep it you have for them. Is that true? I've first of all like, you should save all your parents to do it at the same. It would be like eating. Big meal days before thanksgiving ridiculous. Don't do any hang out with any. You're going to regret every every interaction you had with the kid that wasn't completely mandatory in I'll go cold Turkey. Speaking of thanksgiving on kids from now on through kiva is plentiful advice that he gave on the dad know it also with rob as well. I'm hopping on Rene up. Nap. That's the only thing you've done to prepare, right? Yeah. Absolutely. That's all I've done so far like you are my respective Dr spots, Akiva in rob for four parenthood. So. Yeah. We basically planned it as our data by the new what? It's just it's just as plentiful. Well, let's let's segue into David versus Goliath a bit, Akiva, we're nine episodes in at this point. Actually, the end game is in cyber pretty much like a month away from the finale at this point. But what if your thoughts been on this season, so far I mean, I'm not going to break so much new ground with my overall thoughts came in with low expectations. I will say the one difference this year's post many other years I-, consumes your content. I wasn't I didn't wasn't thinking anything in particular from any of the players there. What I've learned that basically piss learned from watching the show I went through. Where'd you've already was eight times Coulter on like on the pre-game stuff? And like most people I've been so as at least deprived everything almost every episode seems to get better than than the previous one in. There have been very few punctures. I have at least a mild opinion on everyone left. What you can't say during the couldn't have said the last three or four season. So what what could be bad? I'm in love. Yeah. I yeah. I mean, I I guess I just keep waiting for the season to you know. To be bad. I don't know if that's hasn't mistake of me. But it's like literally the definition of pessimistically. I don't know if it I don't want to put labels on things. Yeah. It's I mean it has been really like it's enjoyable. I'm having fun. Yeah. This is a very fun season. Whether it's, you know, whether it's the cast, whether it's the results, I just think there's a lot going on which is a lot of fun discussion. This and many other podcasts, Akiva, I'm going to ask you probably the most well-equipped questioned you're going to answer in your number of years, and podcasting if you had to compare this episode of survivor to a soup. What would it be? Also, I listened to your episode of Jess McKenna. I did tell Mike I was one you missed to sing. I will say you guys need. I am able to think this is when you pull up your mom, you reveal that your shut up Tim right with in. He. Well, no, not that. I can. It's a good question. Like, what soup would you expect to kind of suck with then? It's like good. But then everybody gets better. That's that's really so I'm going to say mushroom barley like nobody's excited about it. But then you you sort of get in the middle. And you're like, hey, I shouldn't eat mushroom pearly suit Murrah like no one actively seeks out mushroom barley soup favorable, and it doesn't even sound up teasing like David versus Goliath doesn't sound appetizing. Versus light is the mushroom barley of the Campbell survivor based season line. Look at the end of this little compared to all sorts of soups way, we won't miss. I was thinking I was thinking maybe French onion to just because it's felt so jam packed like not just the final tribal council. But also everything that was going on during the episode with Christian finding the idol and sort of goliaths falling apart and then coming back together. It's just there's so much that happened. I might go a bit off book here, and I might say, and this is a little contentious that this episode was kind of like a chilly to me. After the podcast with Hannah last week. And there's been a lot of conversations with our at Jp universe at large as to is chilly a soup is it not. And I feel I can compare those to the struggles of Allison. And Alec this episode of like M I Goliath. I want to stay with them. Do I wanna do something else? They really can't figure out what they want to be. And so I can directly sort of compare those at the end of it you felt you know, warm it was a little spicy with the idol nullify are coming out. So Akiva, what what are your thoughts? You are probably the residents soup connoisseur. Here is chili a soup and your opinion. No, no till is not a suit people are like, hey, here's a hot take was not a super like here's another hot take like my grandma. I don't know. Definitively. Oh, here's a hot take. This. Sun comes out at night. I was gonna say I was about to say like like bed. But then I realized I'm taking my. I don't know. But I I got there. But anyway, listen you wanted a great improviser you had just the Kenna. I'm very pointed. We didn't do a mini hot take off. Because then that would have been really interesting if you'd gone with that sort of baseline, not take what you would have deemed as worthy or not. It's my grandma dead. Take. Yes. No. I don't know. I also got to feel like this is from, you know, your English class when your teachers trying to have you ascribe meeting to something that just doesn't have any meaning. So if this was a chil- now, what type of chili now, what does the the beans represents what does the ground beef represents? But I'll go with it, regardless. Well, let's start getting into whatever soup. You wanted to ascribe to this episode, and let's start with their usual fare our preseason predictions. And let's go to Dan here. I'm very intrigued to see what we wrote about Dan preseason. Because Dan was I even though you didn't check out the preseason stuff. Akiva Dame was like a perennial favorite preseason people thought he was likable enough strong enough. He was enough of a fan that he could you know, really do. Well, he seemed like he got the lion's share of winner picks across the board only to have him go out in tenth place before we get into our predictions for Dan. Akiva, what thoughts did you have of Dan over the course of David versus Goliath. Yeah. I do think they sort of I guess similar John. I think they wanted one of those two guys sort of be there. So you slash Joe. But I guess knowing that they didn't last long enough. It never really panned out. I liked then I certainly didn't love him again. Like, I would have liked to see his edit if he was super relevant to the endgame. We might have seen a little bit more from him. I would have they didn't really get into. So he he became semi famous. Like, he got like Kim bone, fifteen minutes for being the hot gap. Right. Ken bone. Yeah. Well, his fifteen minutes are over. But we're trying to bring them back. We are bringing back in barring the bone. Didn't he have some issues or something? Yes, shoes. Let's let he wasn't had. When you say some porn issues. I think that sounds like you're implying that he was in the porn. But I think he was just watching the right? Yeah. I think I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not. But I think you just didn't clean, okay. What could happen to anyone? Sure. So, you know, it's always interesting when someone gets on the show for maybe reasons, though, aren't just basic asking, right? And they don't really bring it up. Right. I don't do not come up during the course of the show. I'm not crazy. Right. Just the fact that he sort of got recognized not not not him. I know Mike got recognized. But I don't think Dan talked about his personal story bounding. There was something going around of like, hey, well, he wouldn't have been recognized by by like someone on the on the show for any. He wasn't that famous. But I think just the idea that like, hey, I sort of had this notoriety. And maybe that's why I got asked because I don't know. Maybe like how did that change his life? But that usually isn't gonna come up. It would only come up. It was really a finalist or something. But yeah, no. I will will we will. We remember him in like three seasons. That's interesting because I would say that I don't know if I have a call, Dan one of the bigger characters, but I think in terms of like being consequential to the overall plot of the season, you had the stuff going on with Keira you had him getting in this sort of like food with Angelina you had him playing both of his idols. You had him getting nullified. So I feel like if anything damn might become like a cautionary. Retail as like, you never know what happens on survivor, someone might pull out an advantage that you knew nothing about it ends up screwing your game over even though you played the idol correctly. So I personally think Dame will be remembered in the annals of survivor history, though, maybe four more. A more infamous reasons than famous. Well, I mean, I think it's interesting because Dan is somebody who he's sort of his edit starts this guy lost bunch of weight. And he's you know, he doesn't really feel like a lie. And now he feels like a Goliath, and then he sort of became this cocky asshole, pouty. And then he went home because the first idol nullify of all time got played on him while he played an idol. And I just I don't really know how to find him how he will be remembered because it seems like three sort of disparate things because I think to be like, oh my gosh. Yeah. He was the first guy who had the idol who knows if this is going to go the medallion power out, or you know, actual idle route in terms of its stay staying power in the game. I think it's one hundred percent staying now that it's also like I'd now that it's correctly been used like I have said that survivor Fiji was the real maker break season for the hidden immunity, idol, not exile island or Cook Islands because they tried out that new method of like, oh, you have to play it before the votes are red. But after their cast. And you know, had the Gardo stuff not happen. It had gal man not saved himself. It could have possibly gone the way the dodo, but because it worked out so well in both instances the show said, oh, yeah. We're going to let it move forward. Say what you want to about fairness. But I think the fact of the matter is this created entertainment, and it's created discussion. And so I think the show is going to say that's a win win for us. Let's let's move on and use it. Yeah. That's fair. And I will say I will eat crow because I thought there was no way anyone was ever going to be able to play correctly. And it was actually going to nullify an idol so props to Carl being for him. Good on ya. I guess I guess it's here to stay. That's yeah. Keep it. Do you have any thoughts about the idol and all the fire and whether or not it has longevity. I'm very I'm sort of interested in your opinion on the order of which everything got played. And I haven't really been able to hear the outcast from this week. I don't know a lot of people have had concrete opinions on this. But because there's so much sort of production involvement in when you're playing. You know, when you have multiple sort of competing advantages. I am I'm super interested in that aspect of it. Because you know, when are you led to play the I'll know of fire versus a regular idle versus the steel vote advantage. It does seem like it's so ripe to the producers sort of picking the order of whatever they want feels like the order of operations some back in class. Yeah. Basically, depend us of advantages where like, okay, I would say of the three then I think the votes steel is by far the least advantageous because you actually have to play it, you know, before the votes are cast. And so you really putting your cards out there. And you can do it to make a bluff sorta like what the David's did this episode or you could completely screw yourself. Like, Dan Foley did where when he stole when he was going to use his extra vote that tipped off mama of like, oh something's going down. I need to play my idol. So I feel like while the votes seals like, oh, this is a fun idea. We get to rob someone of the right to vote the or that you have to play it in completely like screw the person that they really need to show right up. Front what they're doing? Yeah. Because I mean, essentially, it's about wind can you make decisions right because there's a decision that's made after the vote steel happens because then you can change the vote whereas in terms of win the idol nullifies played, and when the idol is played really there's no decision that happens in between those two in my mind. Like, I know that I'll nullify has to be played, theoretically when you when you cast the vote, so it is before the idols, but it feels like those are pretty much at the same time. But yeah, I mean, there's just there's no way to predict the idol Mullah fire. I think I it's just I it's really difficult piece to play with if you are on the other side of the vote. So that didn't really answer the question. Terms of order of everything. But I feel like I don't know if I were in the middle kind of get played at the same time. In terms of how they are flushed out in the actual game play that episode. Yeah. And I did like Jeff had a very interesting way of delivering Rigas like this as a hitter immunity idol, and this is the idol nullify, and I can only imagine how w Tf the vast majority of the cast was on that like they had no idea this thing even existed. It was like the legacy advantage. When it first appeared in millennials versus gen-x, the only got a reaction after Jeff cut to explain exactly what that meant. And I don't know if it will appear again in thirty eight, but they didn't see it happen in thirty seven. So they're going to have no idea what it is either. I feel like starting in thirty nine. Maybe we'll start to see some of that emerging game play of trying to plan around the idol modifier. Yeah. I mean, I think if anything it's going to make you the propensity for keeping idols to yourself. I think is definitely going to increase, right? Because you were definitely not going to share that information. Because now, it's it's no longer. Loses some of its power, not only through sort of the bargaining power of it all, but then also with the fact that somebody can legit nullify, your idol, and it actually has literally no power. So I think it's just gonna lead to people keeping it to themselves. Yeah. It's a good question. I guess we'll start to see down the line. You know, how much this play in particular makes an impact. Well, let's get back to the recipient of us unfortunate nullify are so Akiva as per usual. You will be the judge during executioner to figure out between myself and the pairing of Liana and the robot and have you done breath. First searching in costing your AI for this. No, no. I clearly could learn thing or two from Christian hubadoo. No. This was just a terrible idea that I just ran with. But unfortunately with this prediction, this is half. A I half me. And this is my God. This is so embarrassing. All right. I had Dan as my winner. Pick. Oh, wow. I know this is oh my God. I read this. Did you do the robot have Dan as I know? I should have just blamed it on the robot. But I can't this one's definitely on me. All right. Well, this is what is last. They I wrote about Dan. Okay. Dan is the total Dana's the total package with this empathetic non-threatening attitude in his humble approach to the game. He makes bonds early improves his strength to the tribe win. He been likable calming and is million competitive strong. His one weakness was being strategically more overweight. But that didn't stop him from reaching the final three because he was never anyone's target along with his strong social game. It was his final juries each that really sold. His case he told the jury he played for the love of swat and him daughters. He also inspired the audience remarking, get desire out of life kids, less running. His closest ally was alike and his worst enemy was Natalia. So many things as per usual to unpack from that. I mean that I was a little inspired by that speech. And we know that Dan is good at inspiring speeches at least to himself. Yeah. Maybe desire out of life kids, less running less less running. Please stop Doug don't run anymore. Yeah. Well that one I agree with for the love of swat in him daughters. This is a disaster just from top to bottom on to say that outright. Well, I I will say I did not make damn winter pick which is good. Could Leon a you? And I have been on such the same wavelength for the past year. We both had Morgan as our winner picking. Actually, I believe a key lesson. You were on here was when Morgan got voted out, and you both disparage us for picking the third boot from ghost island as our winner. We both ended up picking Tyler from big, brother. But now we're finally going to have disparate winter picks. A while. I'm excited to see. So I was not as high on, Dan. Obviously as we oughta was I did have Dan make the finale, I said that Dan would be the workhorse of the Goliath tribe. I said that Dan would get cut for being too much of a jury threat. I said he would attempt to name his alliance the Justice league because he was a big superman guy preseason, I said, he'll find at least one idle, and I said that Dan will be Jeff's go-to person at the finale, prompting Casuals to make the push for survivor, forty two. Dan versus Michael. And I said his closest ally would be John and his worst enemy would be Christian. Like, Michael, you're damn. No me versus me mice bloom for season. Forty two bloom versus Goliath in bloom. I feel like it makes the most sense right perfect. All right. Akiva, the decision is yours who do you think had the more accurate prediction as to how Dan would end up doing in the game? Well, first of all, I agree with your with your prediction that then we'll get some a disproportionate amount of. Finale time as someone that probes wishes had one I'd say between him and John they'll get more questions than like every woman the woman game from by. So I'm going to go with with Mike, Mike three seven. There's so many other things I was wrong about that one. Yeah. We'll see. I definitely have sort of grease the wheels. Now for when I go on with rob and try to predict to will speak at the finale, and I don't know if Dan was as much of a totally honest point earlier as much of a Perot ick character as someone like Michael yorker. But I still think he he has a big enough storyline especially from a personal standpoint to garner. Some some finale screen time come a few weeks also considering that there might be a couple of people that might not be there that means more screen time for the rest of that. Yeah. That's crazy. I still can't believe Alec isn't going to be at like, I don't know what to make of him now because I really like him on the show. But I don't know if I'm allowed to like him have you? I think there's I think there's a chance that let's say there's a scenario where Alex wins or or makes the finale. And then you have this knowledge of him sort of doing what doing what we could speak openly about it on this year. I mean, we we talked about a preseason. So I think if you want be dealing spoiled there if you don't want to deal with the TMZ stuff skip ahead, like three minutes or so. Yeah. So I just think if you're a so pretend you're like CBS, publicity or your Jeff Probst, and you have to make this decision. Don't you just say he's banned anyway, and then just takeaways money and like sort of make him come. If he actually does really well if he's relevant on finale night. I think he's I think he is there. I'm not positive because it could be like probes makes a big example of this is what happens when you. But this really wanna get into like stuff. That's never been mentioned on the actual show, which is like sort of like, the idea of pre-game spoilers and nonsense like that and bring more. So wouldn't shock me? We're I think we're like too deep in the weeds of being insane fan people. Whereas like up first of all, obviously, this is something that like no just regular show watcher knows about. I think there's a chance that that. He is there, and maybe just got fined or something like that. They could take away. Show singing, you know, like the economy, maybe not doing so hot. This is a cost saving strategy. Like, yeah. If we ban them we don't have to pay him the million dollars to give his flight is family flying. Then sure that's a good idea. Right. A few wins. And he's not there. Great. Well, what if they just make him Skype in it's much like a Akiva would notice that the finale the reunion for thirty thirty. There was a person who won who was not at the finale. And when the winner was revealed, it was the host who had to play the role of that person. So maybe it could be a thing. We're Jeff Probst reads the votes Alec wins and Jeff has to be like Alec and excitedly run into the audience and jump up and down with a bunch of random strangers. I would be okay with seeing that they could be it could be a one time thing. It's interesting though, that you're talking about the like maybe not getting into like pre game stuff because maybe Pandora's boat boxes been opened with the Pat stuff like look the already. So what happens with the boat ride? It happens beyond the scenes reality has been shattered as to they don't actually walk back to up. So you know, what let's just let all the strings be shown. Here's here's here's the contract. And here's what Alec broke. Why think about the philosophy? 'cause like I love the MTV's the challenge, but I really love them to these real world, which is right now not on that's coming to Facebook where Facebook I think the no television platform than Facebook watch might not exist in in three months when they're ready to learn. I so what they did their last three seasons is they completely broke the third wall worthwhile third wall. I know they broke one of the walls, and they started showing you the cameraman this sort of showing you sort of like both angles of the interview room where they would even show like the question like the producer who's the question ask her, and I sort of liked it. But it was a tacit omission that like the show is in popular anymore, and we'll just throwing stuff at the wall. That's no longer there. But they. But I do love I would love if Robert dry that once like if the robbers like about to go up there that would be fun just to like break all sorts of like conventional of rules that they had and show the cameramen, and I don't know show them on the bus going to the challenge things like that. The saying that I just made up. Nothing's more entertaining than a desperate, man. Is that a thing that I make that we can put that on a motivational poster behind like a seagull and put it on an office wall with the famous same. I believe it was ABRAHAM LINCOLN who wants. Nothing. Nothing. More entertaining, a desperate, man. I mean, if there's any high school seniors who are listening make book, quote, nothing's more entertaining than a desperate, man. Dash we on a Boris dash ABRAHAM LINCOLN. That's the job. Make sure you put the hashtag in the branding out there and argue book markets. Don't pay for a full year book ad in the back. You want? Decided to pursue that form of marketing. Let's pimp ourselves out to year. Bodey amazing. Let's call up rob right now asking this question. Rob we need we're really trying to plug the BNB with the youth. You know, everyone wants the eighteen thirty four is the the fifteen to forty fifty four's in. We just put a BNB add not the quarter page. We're not going full gold page. We don't have we're not his parents. We quarter page ad in the back of like every like New York and California high school year. We like should we target it to like a kid who doesn't exist? Like if I'm like oh today this happy graduation. Make sure you check out the AP BNP every weekend during the survivor, Susan. That's a great idea. Okay. So for our this is yeah. This is really the business plan you can tell both those at the business school for our marketing strategy high school your books. That's it. That's all we're doing and billboard. Can we get billboard to voice billboard three? Seventy. Congratulations on your graduation. Be sure. To check out the hashtag JP BNP three billboards outside ebbing, Missouri. It'll be like five billboards outside Schenectady, New York nailed it. Well, Akiva, do you have you brought the order of operations stuff any other things you want to bring up for for random discussion about survivor at large before we jump into the games proper. No, I didn't know there was such a clear delineation before we get this note playing games. I wanna play the games. All right. We can just jump right into the games. I don't like talking to Mike either. Yeah. Yeah. I can see through that the texture. That's essentially what that meant. I was I was you guys were essentially talking. I was on my own like Dan huddled up in a ball for two hours on the beach watching other people talk. Why are we only get to talk? We on podcast, I speak to Mike like every day. So it's you know. I got I to get my Leon. Well, that's because nobody pulls me aside for Powell while. Go wandering around the podcast studios. Yourself looking at for conversation. That's how you play podcast just curled up in a ball and my podcasting studio. No knowing comes talk to me, no one. It's a five gas of me before we get into that. Can we talk for a second about like the quote unquote, break-up of kera slash, Dan. Because it would have been forced out around the previously on. Did it meet your expectations? Akiva. You know, I didn't really have an expectations for our. We assume that like that that CARA is going to start dating. She's going to get into another relationship in the in the next four episodes or is that like a post game? I mean. Yeah. Love blooms properly in the last two weeks of survivor when everyone is out there most malnourished and disgusting wouldn't it be wild deflect there, the final two like Robin, amber style, and that's how the relationship started. And then you could like flesh back to like how insanely mad Jeff Probst than the production. What's the pin when they posted this picture like this is the final two, and Dan this is the final two just like screwing us over for no reason, what's a fit whatever. The caption was. His most entertaining when he does. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I don't I also don't know what I expected, I think because this kind of goes to comment of us being the like weirdo super fans of knowing what was going to happen, and knowing that Kara doesn't end up with Dan, you know, in the end, he doesn't get the girl was just like these two and acting like a child and cars babysitting him, and so it was like, good riddance. He can just go. He can go be a little baby and his ball on the beach, good riddance, but chunk. Liane? Let's get into some stuff with the kiva because we have a lot of fun stuff for fair for this guy this week, Gerald, please. Okay. So I really like, Robin. Akiva to podcast so props to you Akiva for showing up in doing some weird stuff. So I was inspired by your tweets or trash episode. So I decided we're gonna play our own game of your tweets are trash and we're going to visit to different Twitter accounts. The first one is the survivor Twitter account, which I don't know either. If you follow, but they have a tendency to re tweet very generic things. And so the first few questions are about this, so Mike, we'll we'll start with you. So you're going to try to guess, I'll give you four options and one option I wrote the other three were actually re tweeted by the survivor Twitter account to play. Why do we think survivor Twitter account likes ago as generic as possible considering that like by comparison big brother, I guess it's like a form of visual reach waiting when they put the tweets up on the screen, but like those are very very center inside really centered right of like, oh, I hope the next wins. Head of household. You know, not just like big brother is a good show. They tried to be. So it's interesting that survivor decides to go the more vague route. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're also they're not putting them up on the show leg. It's just the generic nonsense. But I think isn't that would Eric Stein discovered. Is that the more generic the better? Yeah. That's how that's how you get the SEO at everything. It's possible. The person who runs a Twitter account like runs eight different shows on CBS count and doesn't actually watch survivor, and that's why it's like going for as possible. Because even if you got into like proper nouns, they're nervous like oh. That person's not actually on the show. They're just trying to. Chris things like survivor is great house near annoyed. This person is like, oh, I don't wanna get tricks like last time. The windy. Alejandro is not in the not in the final duel of destiny. Start tweeting stuff like that tag survivor. Yeah. Otherwise, maybe the Windies Twitter account will come for them. They like gotta stay in their lane. Give it to me. These guys reach tweeted things. All right. So, hey, woo Hoo. It's let hashtag survivor beat y'all. I just love Christian face emoji with the little hearts. Hashtag survivor see sectors emoji with glasses. I g- losses. Hashtag survivor or D. Yes. Go, dan. Hashtag survivor who see a beer d makes me feel like it's one because I feel like those are two focused to be retreated. Like, I don't know if the survivor Twitter account wants to take sides because it is very much divided down the middle. This is probably the most like as much as we're talking about people possibly jumping back and forth. This is probably one of the most divided seasons. We have seen in quite some time. Might be because of the theme. We definitely talk about that. So I feel like it might be or D even though sectors is completely random. I would not put it out there. I'm a possibility. I'm going to say that be you wrote you were on the right track. It was d- actually my to proper nouns. We follow Keita's rules of Ray tweeting. You can't pick things with first time ever. I was wrong about something the sectors one took me a second. But it was Christian talking about his strategy for looking for the idol sectors. What is wrong with the in that runs the Twitter account? Why don't think did he even say sectors on the shower d say sections? I don't know they read tweeted sectors. Check survive. Okay. Truly genius. Okay. Kiva? This question is for you. A tribal tribal tribal has checks survivor. Be this tribal is going to be everything has shag survivor. See yum burger bar has shag survivor or d I love the David's hashtag survivor. I love this tribals going to be. That is correct. What a tweet that really has value for more than the two minutes after the after the challenge, and the and the travel starts because after that, we basically useless like why would that getting likes pass this tribal? One other interesting strategy as well in terms of being vague. You wanna make sure that you're not referencing any specific events because they could be federal and just completely like out the window by the time. The next segment ends. Well, my rule is that I'm Robert live tweeter. I don't watch live. But my rule is. I think you get to tweets per episode if your life tweeter, I don't think you should be able to live tweet the whole show unless like that's your job like you run the CBS survivor on Twitter. So I do think you have to make them count. If you want that to be one of your two fine. But that's not going to get any likes after the first five minutes. I think you have to go big picture. Yeah. Like, this is the this is the greatest tribal ever like if you're gonna go super generic or like. You can't you can't do something. That's like that's only relevant from eight forty one to eight forty eight was yum burger bar relevant for a longer period of time. Then I don't think that's I don't think they got a single light. If that's not getting retweeted that's not getting one. Can we talk about like Jeff creaming himself over the Boola burger bar for a second. Because that was by far the most salacious Jeff has delivered any reward in the show's history, in my opinion. Yeah. That was pretty bad. But I I don't know. I think it's maybe it's just hard for me to differentiate because he I think he just does that a lot though like what was unique about this one. He felt like he dragged it out, and he really dug into that dirty talk voice of his talk about cheese Bergers, they can burgers like he's legitimately was pulling things out of a one nine hundred phone book. And I don't know felt very odd to watch. Even though it does seem like, I don't know. I feel like from what I've been hearing the burger bar might actually Trump like the floating pizza in terms of actual quality of food. So maybe we'll burger bar is here to stay much. Jeff's happiness. I like the chef guy is Jeff ever eaten differ even during during a reward challenge. Like is. He just like, hey, let me go. My me. Let me dig in with today. It's a good question. I mean, maybe I feel like in those challenges where he can offer up food. I feel like maybe in the early seasons when things were a bit more loosey goosey and the role between hosting contestants were a bit more blurred. He could have said, right? When Jeff was a beta back in the day when he was like below the contestants. Exactly, I feel like then he could be like. Yeah. If you're not gonna these orange slices Iowa. I like this idea that Jeff doesn't have access to the craft services table on the on the set. And so he's having to just like go and get the scraps they need it more than he does. So didn't he go with Wigglesworth to the bar? Yes, they went. They did. They did go to the survivor bar to watch the premiere of survivor Borneo. Yes. So that was the greatest moment of Jeff life when he got to drink onset. All right. So that's enough for the survivor Twitter account because literally all the tweets are just like that. And they start to get super boring and super repetitive. Hashtag survivor. So I'm going to move over to Dan, Dan has posted some interesting things on social media. So mike. This question is for you. Dan, posted a video to his Instagram of him. Singing a song called bitches. Yeah. The chorus revolves around the lyric. Yeah. I don't deal with bitches. No more. Oh god. Then this question is you have to guess what lyric? Dan, does not sing your turning this back on after I challenge just kind of a fake lyrics two weeks ago. And it was this his song this like an original or he's just singing. I had never heard of it. It's by Mitchell. Ten penny. Is that someone I should know? That sounds like that sounds like a fake name. It is no one you should just like a fake name. When I was writing my fanfare later. Mitch ten penny showed up. Okay. So also this was posted with the caption shots fired back tag. You're it wink emoji hashtag, you know. So wait Harris child, you know. So he was these are like sub tweets on sub tweets on subject. Yes. Is this? Yes. I don't know what emotional gymnastics this man is doing, but let's try to guess with some of the lyrics. So, hey, you're the best damn deal. In town owes so cheap. Ooh. E twenty four hour corner store, and you have a lot in common. Damn see. I still believe in love. But not the kind you're making with every guy in this club who or no, no, no bench. Well, I mean, I feel like d has to be in there because you got that your hook, right? Like, that's how bitches ended up climbing up the charts with Mr. ten pennies lyrical witticisms, the other two being see or very much slanderous towards this woman's activities. So I feel like they're sort of paired up together. And what was again, you're the best damn deal in town Oso cheap. Ooh. That one's kind of slander as well. I'm gonna I'm gonna say that a you wrote. Good guests. It was be so guessing you're wrong. Good guess. But no. No. It was twenty four hour corner store, and you have a lot in common. So anyway, Dan, definitely throwing some shots. ICBM kara. Alec. I don't know. This is this is this for guy who I'm going to go in on Dan for a second for for someone who in his Ponderosa video. It was all about like I wanna prove to my daughter's like, you don't need to get ahead in life by lying cheating and stealing and then produces a video on Instagram. That's sick enough to Lear like, no, no, no bitches that doesn't that feel like despaired disparate logic. I don't know. That's Mike you're going to be a parent soon. So you're going to have what are you going to teach your kids? It's you can't lie cheat in the game of survivor, but you can when creams concern legs. It's the wild west. Yes. Exactly. Go ahead. Sing a song called bitches. Definitely go for it. Okay. All right. So Akiva is still a winning this game. And this next question. This is free. Keep us. So NAN accidents took a medication. He wasn't supposed to and posted about it on Twitter. So what medication did Dan accidentally take? Hey, his dog's heart worm and flea medication. Be laxatives see his sister's birth control or de tide pods. It's not tide pods. I'd say it's like the dog thing is funny. Laxatives? I guess I'm going to say his sister's birthday was a his dogs heart worm and flea medication. Ooh. I don't know. I don't know what you'd rather as as the as the wrong. L D marry kill sister's birth control dogs, heart ramidus or tied. Pots. This is the dog's heart worm and flea medication challenge. Yes. So I don't Dan, Dan is a hot mess. Okay. So let's move onto Dan ring ring. Daniel ring ring dot com. So these last few questions about his website, so Mike you have to guess what clothing you cannot buy on Daniel ring ring dot com. So three of these are actual products. You can purchase on his website and one I wrote. Okay. So, hey, a hash tag team rendering t shirts be hashtag embrace, the suck yoga pants a t shirt that says, well, it's FC UK fake friends. And there's this little emoji guy who like stick figure guy who's humping. It's very bizarre. Yeah. Definitely wrote this one or a hashtag swat cop, women's jersey tanktop. Ooh, okay. I feel like swat cop like sin concerned that he wore the Gainesville swat t shirt on the show. I feel like that's that's consistent with branding. Dan is like something like what the haters? He is relentless like he is just it seems like he's a properly fine gentleman except for when the haters are involved in which case he says. Yeah, here's this merchandise to say screw all of you put out the song to all the haters. So the other two are the embrace the suck yoga pants, and what was the t shirt the first one hash tag team rendering? That's a horrible hashtag as well. Why not team Dan like first name for so much shorter than your last name? I'm gonna say that embrace the second. I don't think he ever said embrace the suck. So I feel like that's that's inconsistent Brandt. Okay. That one is real. I don't know where hashtag embrace the suck came from. But you can buy it on his website, unlike t shirts and yoga pants and tank tops. No, it was d- swat cop one which he is not selling which seems like this opportunity. Do we think the swat brand is like copyrighted that he won't be able to use it? You're maybe he can't like he can't do police related stuff. Possibly as part of. It is like, you know, how it's illegal to like have a fake police badge and claim that you're a cop is it a legal to like having a t shirt that says swat cop on it. Because you're technically impersonating swat cop. Yes. You can't be a Cup. If you're a swat cop. You have to tell me. Hold on before you. And before I answer the door wanted to show me all the t shirts, you have on what all the t shirts. What are all the hash tags on those t shirts? Yeah. Everything was pretty much a hashtag except for the fuck fake friends T shirt, which is a brand new. He's selling I will send the link if either of you want to check that out. It's just very bizarre. It's like. I just I can't get over. There's this. If anybody is interested checkout, I think he's on his Instagram and his Twitter. But it's this little stick figure guy humping or or farting sonar. I don't know. Honestly, I can't offer. It's just very odd. It's very odd. Okay. I wish you had asked me to guess how much it is before. Yeah. I know it. Yeah. It's oh it's worse than heroin. Okay. So let's say by the way, if I saw somebody where this short like even if even if like they were any any like he was one of my children like they're immediately out of your life. Now. Judgement towards no coming best seller. Let me just grab this. There's no way he sold. One of the it has one review its five stars. But it's it's done like an across stick. Like a crossword puzzle where the F F C K. It goes down for FA K E, and then the of e of fake and becomes the Ian friends. But I think by far the worst thing is this fording like I think it's working. I think that's that's what it's supposed to be with the wifi bars coming out of its rear end. But like, it's not even completely different color. It's not even blended into the rest of the shirt. It's just a gray box in the middle of your t-shirt. It's insanely bad. And it is thirty twenty nine ninety nine to thirty one nine nine. I guess like, I guess it goes at the four XL assuming it goes by size. I don't know how these shirts go. You can also Mike you can switch the color of it. And it only gets you can go to dark Heather gray athletic, Heather or true, Royal? Yeah. The the review is like you said, Mike, it's got five stars OMG. I ordered a bunch for Christmas. This is exactly something me, and my friends would wear be real rod genuine, no room for fakers. Mrs from Ninfa, Z, tow, my sano from two days ago, a real person as real as Mitchell. Ten penny or whatever it's doing. What's right? Also, it's an extra two dollars for two three zone. Four excel. And if I'm not mistaken didn't then used to be like a like a very heavy Asan. So this kind of kind of root once showed him twenty nine ninety nine. I don't think you need to charge extra on the T shirt or like to make a larger size. I think you can you can take the two dollar loss there and discharge everybody the same. I mean, really the shirt without the logo is worth more. Putting the logo on it. It makes it on wearable because I would say sure to so bad. It's like some people are like, oh, you know. I got the shirt, but it's like, okay. It'll be like a nighttime charter like I'll wear this the bed. Nobody'll see it outside like my family if my wife saw the shirt like it's a meeting. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way shirt screams, irreconcilable differences otaly. Absolutely. Like, if my kids are like, what's. This whole conversation of like, why did you spell that wrong? Oh my gosh. Imagine going out in public with this shirt and Leona is right. It's not clear. Whether this guy's body is going forward. There is like what do you call it? There's a wifi signal coming out of the guys. But like, I assume that might be a far, I'm not sure I think it's working is he pooping on his friends possibly Ospel. I'm the. Yeah. I couldn't believe that this existing. I feel like it's fake friends such a big probable. So like is that a big problem in life, like your friend? They'll say wise like he's humping them. He's humping his faith friends. I feel like that's a sign of maybe it's literal. Maybe maybe he's being literal is like don't, you know, like like just turn them into your life? You know, we're going to. Oh my goodness. But anyway, so if anyone's interested in ordering their very own fuck fail. No, do not do not linked to it in the pod. All right. Oh my goodness. Okay. So the last question, Akiva, this is for you. You've already won the game. But we'll go ahead and ask this last question. So Dan also has a been a book cover model for romance novels. So I'm going to ask you some titles of books, which one did he not model for what was he not on the cover of? So your book titles are a elder bonds be crossroads of the heart. Sec-? Dear step, brother. I want you. Oh, oh, dear. It was so painful for Leon even sat for not flirting with forever. Okay. So I don't think it could be because it was so hard for you to say now, I don't think you also came up with that that would have been like double. Flirting with forever is kind of generic generic what was beginning with roads of the heart. Yeah. I like to think there's like Britney Spears tie in there. Also, I'm gonna go the crossroads of the heart. Okay. So I don't know do either. If you watch flora Bama shore, no like jersey shore rip off. Okay. So there's a guy from there was also a romance novel model, and he it seems to be a very common job. Again, Bobby really light broke ground on that trip. So many of these jobs there are so many of these books. It's pouring an entire industry of men. Exactly. And and it was not, Dan. It was Gus who is on the cover of deer. Stepbrother? I want you Gus from flora, Bama, sure. So no, I didn't write it. It is a real book if anyone is interested of anyone's interested in purchasing copy of deer stepbrother, I want you that is packaged with the fuck. Vic friends d shirt. This time ring dibbled deal on Daniel rendering dot com. Can I very quickly read a the Amazon synopsis that is written during I want us. Please have all if you have kindle on limited. It is free suggest an advantage to go for that on cyber Monday. This kindle unlimited have an income. No, you have to attach your name and possibly your IP address. All right here, we go gorgeous incendiary tempting original sin and totally off limits. He's rough dominant and hottest hell on wheels. Channing Hensley blew into my life. Like a firestorm now I've been in love and lost with him since the minute. I laid eyes on him own secret. Of course, he doesn't know. No one can know the things I dream of him doing to me. No one can know that I at the picture perfect. Sweet little good girl. Want him to be my first. So I hid it away. Instead in a letter where I poured out my heart, and my deepest darkest fantasies for the man with the body made for reckless choices what the man with the body made for reckless choices that could also be your yearbook, quote if anyone's looking for and the piercing green eyes that dare you to make them the man with a dark past and the fierce gaze that lingers on me in a way that takes my breath away. He's six years older than. Me. He works for my family's law firm. He's totally wrong. Utterly inappropriate and completely irresistible. Fantasizing about him about Channing Hensley is so bad. But I want him. Did that scratch your? Fan fiction, which this was like this is a trip to the burger bar in a book. Yum, burger bar, whatever the tweet was. This is this is crazy. This is like a this is like we're graduated from flowers in the attic right now like they are out and about in terms of their lusting after Channing Hensley, brother. That's terrifying. Do know Jimmy Kimmel does the videotape yourself telling your kids that you ate their Halloween candy or like waking them up on thanksgiving morning, like bashed in the heads up like that. I would like if listeners could tweet at Mike in Liana and after they've bought the love you my stepbrother. Solter altered wine around like right by my step. Reading the book wearing the shirt, and then like if you have a significant other or a child or a parent, whoever whoever would be most mortified by seeing this. And then videotape the reactions secretly and send them my man, I'm excited to be responsible for so many broken. The problem is I don't want to don't endorse buying that shirt because it's so bad. So you need to steal money. You'll the shirt. I don't know like maybe by the sheriff and return it and say effective because there's like stab wounds or by the shirt and say and just right in the message like I'll pay you back play her. Something like that. Because I don't I the book you could buy because that's not going to them. But we can't we can't let him have any money from from the shirt. So maybe make your own copy, which would probably cost you a lot less than twenty nine ninety nine. He's selling. Yeah. And it's it's I would like to see those reaction, and it's a way easy. It's so easy to just make yourself like this is not a complicated design. I'm pretty sure this is just click on the minute. You could literally just copy one of his daughters could have done it. As far like, hey, Honey tie. This idea for shirt your mother graphic designer for Daniel rendering dot com. Oh, no the child. All right. Well, that's all I got for your tweet slash website slash products. You're selling or trash. Congratulations Akiba on winning. I although I really don't think any of us one here today discovering the t shirt, but you know, it is what it is. Yes. And so hopefully, all of you will take the rendering reaction challenge. And let us do help people in your life react to dear stepbrother, I want you aka I love my stepbrother or the t shirt or a I hate bitches or whatever the song was the dam was was lip synching to don't deal with bitches. No more. No, no more. Let's let's let's stay on the Dan train here. Because I want to talk about the pond Orosa videos, that's per usual. They're very high quality produced, but we haven't three jury members. And we haven't really gotten any of the like production numbers that Ponderosa gotten the past couple of seasons. If finally came to its debut this. Week as Dan and John came back together to give a message from Brochand show Inc. Which also included the four rules of being a broach. Oh, I just want to talk about this. There's a lot baked into this. And all the preparations that happened. And the way it's done first off before we got on Eric kiva. You gave a pretty hot take not as hot as my grandmother is dead. But a pretty hot take about how you want. I thought we were going to. That's forever. But you pretty hot take about the Ponderosa video. My dad doesn't listen to the being putting hopefully it's not really gonna yearbooks anytime soon. No, no, no reaction video of your glistening. No, no. No. No. So what what what did you have to say about the Ponderosa videos in general? I think I used to be like this particular video or the idea for we get into the actual used to be much more into them. But I felt like I would watch them. And then like, I never got anything out of them. And it was like all right. I'm wasting a lot of time watching these. So I kinda stopped and I feel like if something super interesting it's sort of boil so the service and people started reading about it or posting about it in a Facebook group. But this was really interesting this sort of my bring me back into watching more of them. Yeah. I I kind of feel the same way of you know, because sometimes they can be hit or miss. And so if usually there's something good it will bubble a surface. But then, you know, then I worry about missing something something entertaining. Oh, no. I think your life will literally be fine. If you miss tanning. I don't know. I mean, I feel like another we live in like post Kris noble, period. Where everyone's like you have like things can become legitimately viral for they get taken down due to copyright issues. Like now everyone's but if it gets viral, you're definitely gonna see it like, it's not like. Let the people do the work for you. That's true. Yeah. Let because there's a video like there's a copy of it somewhere on the internet. I think so let's get into this. So I'm going to sort of talk through this segment, and we can just sort of riff on it. So it starts with legitimately. The green texts comes up says a special message from broach shows Inc. And Dan as El presidente as he declared so long ago, essentially is this some sort of like training video like is this leg if your being employed as a broach Acho approach owes Inc. The CEO is going to sort of play video for you. That introduces a message from the president about the rules you need to follow. Well, I had interpreted it like, it's an MLM type video that like, congratulations. You just purchased. Your I share and Roach Inc. The fold Dan I have a former survivor player just in mind to bring into the full Holt. Team up. Okay. That makes sense. But so Dan, the, Dan and John have a very different dynamic here in terms of approaching broach. Chosing Dan has this nice? Blue Hawaiian shirt on. He's sipping a nice drink. Poolside? John is just like clowning around in the pool, and we'll get into the disparity between their ways of talking through the rules. But I'm wondering if this is like a good cop bad cop type of a type of explain the broach. Rules, just interesting how there's not really a unified message coming from the company swats good swat cop, bad swat is that different. I can't imagine. How if you could be a good swat up isn't out. They're supposed to like bust into people's houses. Yeah. But this one is very politely. They ring the bell. I don't know writes their feet on the mat before they enter so Cuba. What did you think about the production value behind the specifically all the quick cuts? We do back and forth between like how long do you think? It took them to shoot. All this. A shooting. I'm not sure I editing. That's really what I had in mind like that. How long edit versus the old videos were just like some dude clearly had like a two hour filming schedule, and that's all they just threw up like the best seven minutes of a confessional alongside some background of some guy walking on a beach or like exercising. This probably took a long time. But I also think he knew he had some gold with two funny guys. I don't like to me. It's so different from what the other ones were. I assume it's a new person doing. I mean, it could be there could be like an entire production team. Now, that's just like coming up with no way. There's no way. There's no way is more than one you. It's just one guy. Who's just as having the best time. I mean, he might have might be like a cameraman and letter. But there's no way they like, you know, we need to do we need to spend more money on on the road of like. Yes. Sorry. We're going to have to do the wrong with whole family visit reward again because we spent too much budget upon the Rosa. Yeah. Eight does sometimes fuel though, keep I you didn't watch the preseason content. But it does feel like these are have higher production than some of the preseason videos that they put out on the cast just in terms of the editing quality. Yeah. It's really weird thing about specifically this where they're just utilizing a bunch of quick cuts. But like again, I go back to the rat video in terms of like actually getting a jet ski on their involving the staff but let let's go to the rules here. I I will say so Dan in John had this very interesting way of delivering things reminds me a lot of the key impede sketch with Obama and his angry translator, we're like damn will be very matter-of-fact, and John will just be gritting his teeth and yelling at the camera. Yeah. That's a good analogy. I didn't. I didn't think of that. But yes, I'm sure that's exactly what they were going for. I thought what was interesting about the rules is sort of there were the four main rules, which I'm sure we'll talk about and then just like random rules interspersed by John my favorite part about the yell at corollaries an amendment, right? Like, what was speaking of soup? What would what did he say? Like broach owes don't eat a spot show or something like that. Yeah. I guess. So I don't know if that's supposed to just have a ring to it. Or if it's like, you can't ingest objects or do things that rhyme with Roach off show. Spot show Rocho I feel like that would be the food of bro chat show Inc. This either deeper than that Leon it. Plus, they don't like cold soup. It's all it's hotter. Nothing for them. Right. Hot cop buck soup. But let's let's go through these rules here. Number one, bro. Chacho is much must always do their pull ups only pull ups. No other exercise. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how many pulse I can actually do. So I think if we're sort of charting our own. I know minituck to like lifetime life in your in your lifetime. You can do hero push pull ups. I'm saying like, I've never been able to do one. I think I'm going to be stuck at zero at the end. Like, I think I'm. The euro. Right. It's a very specific type of exercise that I guess is particularly Brody. Although the only person in my family is my daughter. Yeah. Always your pull ups. I don't know. What else? They would do, you know? But always do your pushups situps. Always do your presidential fitness test. I don't know. Well, he is the president day. So this is technically presidential fitness test. It's only pull ups it's only pull ups I would fail rule number two for being Brosio. Watchos hair? Must always be on point. I don't know what that means. I guess that means just like I mean, these are very like they start off with personal style tips, which feel much more qualitative than like the actual process of being approach. Oh, these are not too dissimilar from like the GTL jersey shore rules from several years ago. Yeah. That's very true. I mean, this are also very oddly specific like I've never been part of an MLM. But are these types of rules that you have to stand by always do your pull ups and heroin point? So these are more like cultural. Yes. Okay. Great. That's what's going on. Here. You must get up every morning, and do your hair a certain way and do your pull ups while like bowing to the altar of Dan rendering, God all right broach rule number three Abro Chacho. What's always maintained his magic skills and apparently he clarified at the mad skills refer to survivor skills. Like fire making coconut aiding and Michetti, Akiva. Can we power rank those three in terms of importance on survivor? So fire eating coconut eating you're making. Coconut fires fire making sorry. I thought you said fire eating buyer making coconut eating and using of fatty. I'd say like is coconut eating skill. I'm rave, so I'm really good at. Like, I don't I don't like coconut. But I feel like I'd be able to on survivor like is there someone who can eat coconut, if you're allergic, I guess, then you can't be part of Roach out showing also. Fire that's pretty discriminatory. Yeah. I would definitely say that's the least important with I guess. Kill. No, it's not a skill. How dare you? I just practiced my Turkey eating skills. Mon- mad skills. And I'm pretty good at it. So I think coconut should definitely be included and fire making makings got to be number one bright consuming that there's now a facet of the game. A whole round dedicated to it. Yeah. I think so I think so I'm just glad that they clarified what maintaining mad skills. Also, I like that it's maintain your mad skills was part of the application to broach. Oh, Incas that you have to demonstrate these skills and be like, okay. You to eat ten coconut all right in front of you have a Flint, you have a machete, and you have ten coconuts. You have five minutes. I'm sure that was definitely part of the the hazing ceremony that happened for Chacha the pro-choice as we go into like a hazing process. Of course. Obviously. All right. Final rule here the word broach. Oh is quote, unquote, Hugh, big US, it can be used as a noun adjective or verb. So broach honcho has gone full Smurfit at this point. I like first of all I love the Dan mispronounced. You you big yoU'. What did he say you said like ubiquitous, I mean, you, Hugh, Hugh big US. John is like. This yet. Yes. So I don't know. I feel like these skills. Go from at least simple in concept too, much more difficult. Like is this a this is a rule that you have to use the word? I I just I didn't understand how to execute this. Final rule. Not to mention have we ever seen it being used as anything other than a noun like were they saying, oh, this is a pretty Chacho day. We didn't get any practical applications of this on the island. We trust. The Dan knows what given verb like an or or is that like the producer now injury telling them what what are the things instead of schoolhouse rock San grew up listening to Mitchell. Ten penny. That's all I educate from. Okay. Dan is bitches and now verb or an adjective. So so I mean, we had also not heard the term, Hugh big US. I don't know exactly what that means. Is that just mean that Christian like it's Christian referring to things vaguely could Christian be the one running this or via Twitter account. Yeah. You're gonna only and that's why one of the tweets that included a proper noun was I love Christian y'all or whatever it was saying it's a conspiracy theory for making connections here. So anything else about this ridiculous segment and the the rules? Do we think that are going to be more rules added on to the point where Dan and John will come up with the broach? Oh rulebook much like the Boston. Rob rule. Book became thing. I'm excited to see how much he sells it for on Daniel rendering dot com. God it's going to be like fifty dollars going to be made out of toilet paper. I've got a question. Did did we don't you think that until a few weeks ago, we were out of broach autos altogether? Like, we had sort of retired the word that had been brought back who quarterback Kerry. Yes, it was. Yes. And then we were done would people were calling. If someone was ever like, hey, bro. Chacho on Twitter. It'd be like all right. That's kind of over. Right. I think we it was sort of like the MRI Baylor thing where it's like love you bay. Okay. That's done if like three seasons you can't use it anymore, even as a joke. So brow rotunda was had just died. And I was happy about it. I think nobody was mourning the death of the word broach. Oh, now, we're stuck with it for three more seasons for chatshow Incas like the Ken bone of of sayings on survivor. Now, I think broach is sort of like a victim. They rebooted, bro. Chacho even though it was only because if we're gonna reboot poultry, essentially, tried to reboot it, and it's become I guess you'd say more successful. It's been more prolific like it's time. We're staying. Yeah. But they gave. No, they gave. No love to like the original. Yes. You know what? I mean. That's how these things work. They just take they take it. If you remember it because I know Mike probably wouldn't know this. But like the win Stuart Scott on sportscenter used to say who young and then like, Jim Cramer of mad money stolen. And now everyone thinks it's Jim Cramer's him. But he really just like really just, you know, yanked it, and that was sort of Scott's gone, and it's all you have to make. Yeah, exactly you have to at least throw in the references. You know that you can knowledge where you came from. But yeah, who came which came before you gotta say so you're saying that Terry should have made a cameo like sort of like how in twenty one jump street the movie you had the original twenty one John three people come in for like a blink. You'll miss it type of thing. I think if they if if they start selling t shirts, he needs to get a cut is what I don't know. If you want those designed by Dan, what is what is ten percent of exactly he might be going them money at that point. Let's move in here. And we're going to try to another Renou trend, and you guys haven't technically done this yet. But we're going to do a take off on your beloved IMD bags segment. So we got very lucky this season in that we had not one but two people who came from the world of entertainment onto the show. They had some renown to them and it by proxy was able to allow for me to do with deep dive into the respective IMD pages of one John Hennigan and one Mike white. So I created a little quiz about the pages of John and Mike. We'll go back and forth. It'll be multiple choice questions. These are all about the various non survivor projects that they are involved in. I'm we'll see how well, you know, the IMDB pages which are pretty extensive of both of these gentlemen. I'm not gonna lie when you said to people as Kate mayor slam town and totally forgot because I was thinking Mike white. I'm like, why wrestlers don't necessarily always have like a lot of the wrestler. I am d stuff is just like wrestling shows. Okay. Well, that'll be that'll be my guess then for any John Hennigan WWE. I avoided all the wrestling stuff. Because to akitas point. It was a lot like I saw oh he has like eighty eight credits as an actor. But then like, they're mostly all, you know, appearances different episodes of like slightly. The slightly idle differently. I'm also I like like wrestling. But I also was not around when my when John was a wrestler. So I have no familiarity with them as interesting, well, hopefully, you'll get more familiar with him as an actor, and that'll sort of parlay into wrestling below. Let's start with you Liana. So John put out a movie he talked about this on his exit interview with Robin with myself as well called Boone the bounty hunter, which is now on Netflix, and John this is like a completely self funded self created project by John you did a good job of bringing on actors of some renown. I'm gonna give you a list of four actors, which actor of note does not star in Boone the bounty hunter with John Hennigan. Okay. Great. Hey Jonathan lip. Nikki be Lorenzo lamas. See mccully Kokin. Gee, Kevin Sorbo. Home. My gosh. Okay. Let's see. Okay. I feel it. So this is on Netflix. Okay. So I'm just trying to gauge the level. You know, not to hate on Netflix movies or anything like that. Like who is trying to make a comeback. Who hasn't been busy doing stuff recently? I man. What is MacAulay Culkin than up to? Honestly, what is what have any of these actors been up to three of them are up to Boone the bounty hunter? Okay. I feel like Kevin Kokin had had a podcast that one point. I think of. Well, anybody can have a punk is these days? Okay. Well, Kevin Sorbo. Definitely I'm pretty sure he's in it. Right. Because he was Hercules. So I feel like that would be get or John Hennigan. You know, what we'll just go with MacAulay Culkin that is correct Jonathan lip Nikki, Lorenzo lamas. And Kevin Sorbo are all in Boone the bounty hunter. Now, I'm interested. Now, you're interested in you really selling that moving. Truly an interesting caz. If you want to find out what happened to Jonathan lip Nikki host, Jerry Maguire, you have to watch Boone the bounty hunter to find out. Knows really been making the rounds six cents kit. What's again paid in Haley, total Osman? Yeah. Haley Joel has been on every podcast this year. Well, he's he's been all over the all over like the old come he's done it. But unlike he was on Silicon Valley like he's he sees you work consistently. I don't flip Nikki has but he's really worked pretty consistently. He has like a decent body work on Doboy. Six hundred guy whose name I just forgot alias allows me Joel h j show. Actually, let's just. Censored. All right. Let's go to you here in two thousand seventeen film. John Hennigan played a mythical creature what mythical creature did he play. Hey, a Centaur be a minute. Tar see a Merman D a Griffin. I never really know. What a Griffin is. I'm not going to go with that. I'm gonna say between the center and the minute towards one of those. And I'm going to say the minutes is correct. In the two thousand seventeen film David made a maze. He played the miniature. I guess which speaks back to the Smith myth from Greek origin. I write this down from my new versions of bedtime stories. Start time. There was a mini tar name John Hennigan named John Hennigan. He was stuck do support. You guys going on Rob's podcasts. And watching the the Netflix. John thune. Yeah. Yeah. I get I could do it. I'd be persuaded to do it. Because I think it's also we're not we're done with win. The bounty hunter stuff because I'm pretty sure it's it's about like a reality TV star who actually becomes a bounty hunter. I might actually watch this on my own like that's nothing can be worse than Santa's summer house for you have nowhere to go. But up it's true. Nowhere to go it up but only for Kevin Cervo. For the Renzo lamas. That's really why I'm watching it with Kevin a might be the woo of it and only appear in it for like five minutes. Get top billing. It'd be too bad lip Nicot is we are one all Leon number going back to you John China. They made an appearance on a Cartoon Network children's reality show into in the two thousands, which one did he appear in. Hey, destroy build destroy bees, dude. What would happen? See brain rush, d the other ciders? What are these shows? These are all actual reality shows that released by the Cartoon Network in the two thousands. Okay. First of all, how does Cartoon Network. Have reality TV, it's cartoon popular. It's popular MTV doesn't have music videos anymore. It's just a name. Okay. First of all, you could've written four TV shows like made up names, and I would have absolutely no idea. This is a complete shot in the dark. I will go with a that shot in the dark landed. You are correct John appeared on the show called destroy build destroy. Which I actually remember involved basically like two teams of kids with one adult supervising them like building giant machines, essentially attack each other. And I think John Hennigan actually competed against the Miz in one episode ended up prevailing. We are all real TV shows. These are all real TV shows. Wow. All right after Boone the bounty hunter. I got some TV to watch dude. What would happen might have been the most of noxious show? I've ever seen an involved like three dude Bros sitting around. And I'm not getting at the camera. Like, dude, what would happen if you wore fish tank on your head? And then they like, it's basically like the dumbed down version of Mythbusters where they were just walk around and do those things. This is some real quality television being put out on the Cartoon Network. It really there's a reason why they would back the cartoons very quickly. All right. Let's go back to you doesn't against been very busy. He's involved in several upcoming projects, which of these is not the name of an upcoming project starring John Hennigan. Hey, Dodds of medicine be the twenty seven club. See ATI Shane cars. God's in secrets de dare to dream. Twenty seven. I'm sorry. It was dare to dream. Oh. No, I works like he's a wrestler who works more than almost any other actors and insane. Yes. It's a lot. He's got a law going on. Let's say the twenty seven club a singer, songwriter chasing, fame and a journalism. Student researching his thesis are drawn into a sinister underworld as h attempts to discover the truth behind the curtain of the twenty seven club is he is he the student. I his name is his name is Jim Morrison, which isn't that the name of the lead singer of the doors? It's actually a remake. It's a bio pic. Yeah. I just say it's a bio pic nestled within. Yes. Philly goes to the doors also happens to be named Jim Morrison. That's very odd. Classic. All right. Let's go back to you Leon for question. Number five our last John Hennigan question. So I am TB has this really interesting feature where on each actress page they pick like the four movies. They're quote, unquote, most known for so of these four movies, which one of them was not in which one was not in the most known for category Boone, the bounty hunters already up there because that's his baby. But the other three were and one of them wasn't. Hey, Hercules, reborn. Be Sinbad and the war of the fury's. See twenty feet below colon. The darkness descending de strange nature. These all sound made up. These are all real movies. Okay. I will go a strange nature. No, I'm sorry. Sinbad in the war of the fury's. Despite him playing the titular character was apparently not known enough to make his mount Rushmore film, the war of the fury's or the furry. Nope. That is that'd be a very different movie. Sindbad the sailor takes on hold of furry. Listen that might be. That's true. At least you have the niche market appeal. Right. But maybe maybe there was like a misprint, and that sort of just attracted a weird Nishat audience to it. Right. I mean, they just confuse it like, I did it makes sense. Let's segue into the history of Mike white who has a he's mostly more known for his writing. But he has some acting stuff as well. So we'll certainly get into it. Akiva, let's go back to you. What John appetite produced TV show did Mike white not appear in this is only three choices freaks in key cts undeclared or love which one was he not in. It was not in. Now. I don't remember him in love and every episode of love. I'm going to say love, but I'm not con do should be confident. That is correct. Mike way was actually a writer on freaks engage and he made a cameo in one episode. He also made a cameo on credited cameo in undeclared. So fortunately, Judd appetite did not decide to bring him back in the Rolodex. He's resigned to being on survivor. I guess it's a fair trade considering I think loves fine. I know you wash it all the way through what'd you think of it? I really I really I was going to say I love I really really like it. It's not for everybody. But it I I love I love the spoon, man. Who's in really become at the end from Bill. Boys becomes like one of the main guys. I love the all right. Let's move on here. Liana what post apocalyptic film had Mike white played an uncreditworthy role. Hold victim in bathroom. I actually have a vanity license plate. Then I got down. I got my role of victim bathroom on my business card actually contagion be zombie land Sea World war Z de scouts guide to the apocalypse. Let's go with zombie land. That is correct Mike white appeared in zombie land. As victim in bathroom. Just imagine that on on putting that on your resume victim and bathroom sad. He was on credited. Well, I'm as extra after that burger bar. It seemed like Mike was going to be victim bathroom very soon up to was actually, Bob doc. Also victim Bruce Kennedy guy victim bathroom. Very much victim bathroom later on of throwing exiling or to keep it going back to you in two thousand and five and Mike white sermon. Vehicle called welcome to California. And he played a music composer who happened to have the same name as a celebrity, and it wasn't Jim Morrison. What was the characters name? Hey, Tom Hanks be Michael Bolton. See Kurt brussel, d John Goodman. I feel like the Michael Bolton been done already right from office space. So if they did that they sort of went to the well again with a joke. So I'm gonna go with Kurt Russell. His name was John Goodman. Okay. But my my thought is definitely office space reference that I put in there to see if you pick up on it. Should have been Fabio is the name. They should've picked. Yeah. Nobody knows Fabio's last night. I was gonna say actually, I don't know. What does last name is? I don't think it was real mailing share. Moving to Google it. I don't wanna be saying, let's say, Osceola and Sony. Yeah. See that runes Fabio same fob. You just got ruined when you revealed his last day. All right. We're going back to you Liana. So as for aware, Mike white vote for the emoji movie. But how many writers including Mike white recruiter data as part of the writing team for the emoji movie? A to b five c six d nine. I feel like there's always there's like the sweet spot of writers that when there's too many you can tell that the movie was just disaster. And it was like desperately passed from writer to writer to try to improve the screenplay. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go six that is correct. There were six people who wrote the emoji movie, you really need it. You can really tell that. It was touched by six hands. I mean, yes, it's an odyssey for our time. This really anyone has to craft it icon ick. It was a joint joint written joint tweeted. I don't know. They were outsourced. They were passing around and join absolately. All right. Let's go to you here, which of these roles has Mike white not played in a film. So I'll read you a role including the description and one of these is not rail. The other three are a corny a highly religious security guard be Nick are rich and accomplished Hollywood director, see Tyler a shy lonely IT guy. De Frederick a smug adult child of divorce. I'm going to say Frederick a smug. Adult shot is correct. The other three he did play lane corny the highly religious security guard in the good girl, you play Nick the Hollywood director in Brad status, and he played Tyler a lonely IT guy and enlighten, which was the TV show. He did with Oregon Brad status Brad status. It's Ben Stiller movie. Oh, oh, I thought it was like a Facebook status. The prequel to the emoji movie. Yes. Facebook status the movie. Yeah. Oh, no. Yes. That's what the real world is reboot. It's gonna all be about. It's about it's all communicated through status. Classic. Well, so Lena has four Akiva has three we're going to approach. One more sudden death round here. Here's how this is going to work. We're going to go rapid fire. We'll go back and forth. I'm going to read growing back to the John Hennigan. Well, here I'm going to read the name of a movie all real movies. But you had to tell me whether or not Jan Hennigan was in it. So just go right off, your gut. Don't be a victim in the bathroom. Just tell me if you think John Hennigan was in this movie, and we'll see hopefully, this means that Akiva will be able to have a shot of surpassing Liana here and taking the last minute win. So Liana we'll start with you as quickly as you can answer deadly press. No, that's great. Akiva, never leave alive. Yes. Liana the big shot. Yes. That's correct. Akiva, evolve. Over. Yes. Liana American Justice. No, yes. Lucky dragon wars colon de war. Liana house of hardcore too. Yes. Yes. Finally, Cuba are low the burping pig this as twenty points, right? Yeah. The correct answer by swapping, fifteen points, a Cubans. This. You guys got three right out of eight. That's not too bad considering these random smattering of films. I think that's what it's going to sound like Mike when you're talking to your child. Yes. No. No. Yes. Yes. As I'm showing them are load. The burping pig the hit family film. Yes. Everyone loves it. And the it was the straight to DVD version of babe knows the real crass version of bay it dealt at bay was to was to gentle. And so they really wanted to thirty it up a little bit the PG thirteen virgin. Well, congratulations Liana you have won this version of IM D bag. So I think we all have a really tucking into the extensive cinematic history of Mike and John alight. I like it a bunch of movies. I will probably never watch also. Yeah. We know way too much about I've looked to way too much into Mike White's filmography, also I'm looking at of the burping pig. The pig is voiced by Drake bell. Yes. Speaking of the challenge wasn't he on champs versus stars. Yeah. This is only like a year before doing that. So really he is a hopping from stone to stone across the Hollywood rounds truly making his way in the swan Jonathan Nikki. Of course, this is the new six degrees of separation from Kevin bacon. But no longer Kevin bacon. So cigarettes the separation from Johnston. Let John Hennigan I'm here for it better. Oh my goodness. Okay. All right. Well, I I actually have one more thing before we start to wrap up about like actual strategy. I don't know if that's something that this point that we are brains could handle or my brain could handle, but I had this yesterday of feeling like the post merge of David versus Goliath is just the post merge of ghost island, but with advantages that actually makes it interesting that sort of how I feel and I think that there's cases to be made for while these advantages are making it interesting, otherwise we. Have David sort of steamroll sort of similar to the navy's versus the Melos. So I don't know if either of you have thoughts on it. But I kind of feel like that's the situation that we're in. I mean, I have heard a lot of conversations about now that we have sort of dissect at the post merge of ghost island about how it was a bit unlucky that all the advantages sort of ended up on one side, especially the idol's like Jonathan had an idol Kellen had the extra vote, but they both ended up sort of being used for not. And that's how sort of Wendell Dahmer able to have a stranglehold on the game. So I could see the point that, you know, now that you have the David's commiserating together about all the idols that they had all the advantages that they had it definitely helps improve the underdog story as opposed to like, you know, the gongs, for example, all they could do is just sort of big be sitting ducks, quite literally. Yeah. I dunno. Akiva, do you have any thoughts about this? Really? Okay. That's fair. I don't know. I just I feel like this so often people are just, you know, say, oh, blah, blah, blah. I don't like advantages. But I think this might actually be kinda boringly. I know we're counting the season. And it has been a lot of fun. And I stand by that. But I think part of that is because of all the advantages. I mean, they were three really that. We're played from the idol. I dunno fire and the votes steel that all made this super exciting not to save the cast couldn't carrying themselves on their own. But I just think that sometimes there has to be a case for all of these advantages, and why they could be a good thing. I'm just throwing it out there. I don't know if that's sacrilegious in any way by just want throw it out there because I can well, I guess well, don't you think like something if like nowadays if somebody says, oh that was an amazing up. So almost always has like an epic tribal council rarely talking about the I like forty eight minutes of the show true. Even sometimes some of the classic episodes of let's say the last ten seasons. Like, you couldn't tell me this really would happen. You know, what a challenge or or it's sort of like light moments at camp. At almost always comes down, though that was like a tribal we've never seen before mother question is like how do we know is their chance? The I don't know if I was going to get re hidden or or no, I don't know. I feel like it's sort of like a one time thing. I mean that would be my hope because we only get only have like four rounds until the end. So it feels a bit foolish. So I can understand hiding idols. But I don't know if you need to rehire, the idol nullify or that being said, it could absolutely happen. And I think I think in other interesting, I think it would be so anti-climactic the second time. I almost think like it would almost guarantee it gets played also like how would you because Carl while he was on exile. Right. Could it be a thing of like does someone have to sit out a challenge most likely Carl because that seems to be the way is is going and he happens to get it again. I'm not entirely sure, I guess to answer your question Liana could this also just come from the fact that no offense to John and Dan. But if we're talking about the bigger David versus Goliath story the. Advantages are producing exciting route -able out tops as opposed to something like advantage dead. And where people are love Sirri. They hate to see her go that way. I mean, I think that if someone like Christian went out when he played his idol, and his I don't know why people would be pissed off about it. So I mean, I don't want to necessarily cry double standard. But I do feel like because you know, some people specifically are not big fans of Dan. They were totally fine with this wealth of advantages coming in right? Exactly. I mean, some of it is definitely being results oriented of. Yeah. Okay. Like, maybe this is a case for advantages because I was excited and happy about how it played out. But I guess I'm just trying to think of would it have been as exciting if it had been a David steam or Goliath steamroll over the David's, I don't necessarily think. So also, I'm realizing I had missed opportunity to yell numbers. While Akiva is trying to answer his question. Much like win Christian because I was trying to think of what happened during the challenges. And if there was anything notable that happened during the rest of the episode, and that was the one thing I pulled from. But no one's gonna remember that long-term the yelling them. I mean, I think it's a good tragedy to jus again. I think this happened in the challenge as well. It just you just sort of try to screw the other team up. But I just seemed to be like a drop in the bucket of everything that happened in this episode eleven. All right. Well, let's let's move on to the final segment of each. And every week you're on the BNB. The question of the week last week's question of the week in honor of the stick twirling that Davey was doing and order to distract the others while Nick and Carl looked for that vote steal what would be the distraction you'd wanna utilize on survivor as per usual. We'll go around the line from the listeners, and we'll also read our own responses that we gave as well. Let me start with an Email. I got from mummy Gaga from RHA BNB gmaiLcom. I would have to sing the arch. BNB theme song as a distraction where Mike and Liana then show at the beach out of nowhere to do the actual BNB. That would be that's like our version of the live show. It's people who have no idea who we are who aren't interested. It's not recorded. That's like being invoked like Beetlejuice like you have to sing our song three times and turn around and we'll like suddenly appear into a show right there. What about that? Would that be like the world's worst? Our reward challenge. You get to hear your a two person like live version of your favorite podcasts on the beach. That's your roar food. I mean, not to to ourselves too much that you get so bored out there like you would wanna listen to you. Listen to want to listen to like car talk as a reward to get away from people. Sometimes sure. Actively excite well because you know, when people like, oh my gosh. This is the best burger I've ever had. Oh my gosh. This is the best NPR episode. I've ever heard exactly your senses dull just from the sense of playing the game. And I guess that includes your ears as well. So Christmas said here's what you do. You get yourself some money clip if dollar Bill in the money clip, then when a guy flashes a blade, you go you want my money, go get it. Then you run the other direction, which is essentially John Mullany sort of approach for dealing with muggers on the street. I yeah. I don't know how you're going to be able to sneak that onto survivor, but he could definitely luxury item is a nice scene note. Right. DJ Lebel client says my perfect survivor distraction. I would give an extended exhaustive theatrical retelling of the iconic Shelley long film troop Beverly Hills. Everyone will be transfixed I promise hashtag. It's cookie time. That's a good idea. I don't know why. But this makes me think of the Beverly Hills wa wa movie, that's the first thing that Jonathan let s connection to every now, Akiva, if someone was trying to distract you by talking through the Star Wars franchise with that people to like satiate your appetite enough while they went to for an advantage. If someone explain Star Wars, and I would just fall asleep. And then I wouldn't I would not find the advantage. Somebody else Trent says my ploy to distract other survivors, just like big, Tom. I would stick a feather in between my clenched cheeks, but the feather would be attached to a live chicken. So essentially trying to saying I'm gonna stick chicken up my, but now a distract people. That would be a brand would have struck people with that would. I don't think I don't think that makes air though. That's a problem. You're doing it for all that work for no reason. Well, I mean, listen if Sandra garnered so much internet negatively for trying to kill the goat. Imagine how much pita would come down on somebody for sticking chicken up there. But as a distraction. Those would be all time tweets from pizzas, you're not getting that money. No, absolutely not. In fact, you have to pay SIA, you're find by CEO, you think people are out there really like wondering like who's going to get the money and sort of hand during the love of animals and sort of being the underdog the emergence strategy. Nah. I think that time pass because time was really the only one who got it who didn't someone else gets Danzig money Jonathan did. But it was also because they didn't see ghost island finale at the times, they didn't know the Donovan to keep his point in my have been just zeitgeist. So they didn't think that it would never make a comeback. I would be playing hardcore for I would be singing songs. I'd be. I'd like I also don't show my face during tribal. I would really be pandering. The Melissa bot says a my distraction will be yoga. I mean, Joe ga and also says shutout to human, Akiva. I didn't is there a robot. Akiva, I don't know. There might be do, you know, if you have a botox count? I do not have anybody counts. Thankfully, no, not yet. Although then maybe I would get verified. I don't know if you have the body we ought to do of bought account. So they're on us. Thanks. So I hope not and are now I'm assuming there's fake Mike were a couple. There was one who was trying to make account for my wife, which was really interesting here. No, I would say that's weird. I'd say that's. The people that separated whatever they want to do with their social media if they want to record a I hate bitches on their Instagram. So be it. No, no, no bitch. Mike does your wife have an opinion on the canon of her situation on the on? My other were actually listening to the dad know at all in the car ride here at she. She was she was a little incredulous about the pronunciation of her name element to that. But she loves you guys. So she'll go along with it. Well that will right. I think the just explain I think it was it was the second time. It's come up, right? That the canon of her name on our podcast is. Yes. Absolutely. And they think it makes her sound more professional as well. So maybe they'll show it'd be like her her stage name it'll be on her business card, even though it's no things about it. Like, a world leader named Angela you think of Angela from the office, that's not tough. But you angle miracle. It's like I don't wanna mess with her. She she doesn't want me the person. But like, actually it's ongoing. I have no doubt that envelope miracle like would always correct people and this many, Android uncle, but with dramatics. But now, that's why you have to become a world leader famous world leader. Then like, you know, if somebody asked how to pronounce your name come on. That's true you become the gold standard than for name. Your name could be like fluidly blurb in and like you can't pronounce it any other way. Now. Yeah. Or, you know, be like Anglo. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. It's Angela now, you know, that's like that's my wife's gonna have to become president now to supersede ongo out to become the number one Angela pronunciation the world, obviously, the US or German. Well, we can move. Good work on some visas. A Pirker Schindler says I would distract people by whispering. Tony's llama speaking peoples ear. Turks. This only one at a time. You gotta start to hold group. You could yell it. But to go like this. All right like left. Hold on one over. Not sure Azima for this version of the BNB. Hope you enjoyed that little for a all, right? Let's move on John John says if I have to distract people I would lie. I would do like Whoo. With the kids showing some karate moves and spending a coconut on my hands since. No basketball's are available like the Globetrotters. Now is this John John John John already? That's that's actually I think a rule in broach Inc. Also, the before you eat the coconut spin on your hands. I could use some Agean like someone just being distracted by like stewing like Harlem globetrotter tricks. Yeah. And then I don't know who's going to be the Washington generals. But like they just get the whole thing going to the Goliath early the Washington generals at this point in terms of following for it every single time. Elizabeth not to be confused with our Elizabeth says I enjoy living vicariously through my sixth grade, self. So I'd probably bust out. Some cheerleading moves I off my Herkel, a Herkie spirit fingers and Cartwheel's that that's yeah. I mean, that's sort of similar I think in the same vein of what David is trying to do with his like baton twirling, Tai Chi thing that's the basically the stick thirty stick her. Stick fingers. I know. Jonathan Troyer says when waiting quietly identi-, so my try mates might be accustomed to seeing that why my distracting move would be to strike various poses like superhero, supermodel, Kenneth the page, celebrating, etc. So essentially, it's like a version of like a frenetic vogue gang, which was sort of just drop people's I. If you wait loudly does he also dance like must. He be quiet when I win waiting quietly identity. I'm a mentioned what he means by dancing as well as it like shuffling back and forth on your feet, or is it like actual choreography? It's doing moves like the superhero or the supermodel, which I don't know. What those neither do I the superhero supermodel bowl sound pretty generic that really like any, you know, you could really do any sort of pose attributed to a superhero. I'm very white. So that's also how I'd answer finally dancing. He says the best way to distract people from my allies looking for advantages is to dig for an advantage in plain sight, LA Chrissy, Hof back once I'm thrown out of the way, I could either join my allies or running the opposite direction. So it's almost like being the red herring purposely and trying to get people thinking that you're looking for an idol when it turns out that your your allies are actually looking for one. I should like that strategy just start digging random like holes in the beach. Like, I didn't realize there was a dog on our season. I like that just start like digging Raynham holes. I know that on survivor South Africa, someone dug a giant hole, so they were using it as a heating duct or their shelter. So if you come and saying that you're in constructive, come up with some sort of cockamamie construction excuse justify a reason, I think it's good. Absolutely. Well, Akiva, what would your distraction mean to get people to look for the the idol or advantages while the cats were away. All right. So you ask me what my distraction would be. But you didn't give me like when you told me to prepare one thing. Just this. You didn't give the advantage part. So I went into the completely different direction. I was thinking if I was on the show, my overall, general distraction would be that I would make up that I was a billionaire and that like I would just because who wouldn't want to hear stories about like being billionaire? I feel like everyone is asking questions though, I'm about a richer. And then also it's like we'll bring me to the end because I think it's three point one billion. You don't wanna just have one billion dollars? So I have three point one billion dollars. It's like a family thing we own like, Sears or something. Although that would be dollars now. You know? And then it's like bring me to the end. But then you get to be on your like just getting I'm actually a really poor. And then you win like just kidding. I'm actually middle class. That's that's my overall. Well, they can be story time. I mean, I think you know, this can be applied in so many different situations. Right. Because then it's like storytime with Akiva. Let me tell you stories of my three point one million dollars. I don't know what they would be three point one billion. Oh. Seers of the of the Sears Sears. Yes. Sears. Is Weiner ker was was the original name for it. Anyway. So you so you could say like, hey, everybody gathered around why tell you a story about my boat trip with Warren Buffett, and while you were doing that like your allies where the off looking. Everyone who like who was a recruit would be like, oh who's wandering puffing? But then my to to answer your your question of to distract them from finding an idol. I think my my distraction would be just talking about my podcasts all day, and then people would be so bored. They'd walk away from me. And they would be like, oh, great. You went into the woods again. Like, we don't have to hear about his eight five minutes. They would be you're pretty happy with segregate yourself by knowing people by shura podcasts. Sure. But it wouldn't. Because like that's not like so grievous that they're gonna vote you off for being mildly annoying about your podcasts unless you have a real pod hater out there. But I could at least get myself some free time because they'd be thrilled that I wasn't wasn't talking about like and this one episode Mike bloom came on and we liked it a fake cast. You guys know what brand Steelers and there's just none not stop once. It would be. That's what I feel like I could regale people with conversations of all the prints still like let me tell you about a season. We're aunt Patti didn't play her idol. Oh that was the worst movement survivor history. Or do you could just like, hey, guys. Let's play another fake. All right, guys. It's four where like fake season. Twenty three is like, no, no, no. This is with genius Gary everyone from the all, right? All right. We're gonna take a walk on the beach. And then you go find the right? You look at it only feign interest for so long like when you start singing the bang rang song when you're doing your intro for the brand steel that you're playing on the beach with genius characters than really they don't have time for it. All right Liana. What's what's anchorman is literally sleeping during the day. While you're doing what's your distraction Liana, why was just so inspired by our bedtime stories from last week that I feel like telling bedtime stories. It'd be a great way to entertain people. Also, Jordan Kayla sent me something from I think it was from the survivor Facebook page, but it was would love to see Princess beg a lot and K Angelina gone. So they could be a new character along with the other one that we came up with it. I don't remember from this episode so Princess beg. A lot would be the main character of my story that I would tell to distract you hopefully have prince. Beg a lot. We can have her brother Mitchell through ten penny. And then her gorgeous stepbrother Channing Hensley. It's very dramatic. Yeah. So I had a very simple solution. Three. Very concise words close up magic. I feel like there's so many things you do you might not have a deck of cards. But like you could do a lot of stuff with coconut or palm leaves that could distract the eye to be able to just like get people's attention. Even for like, fifteen minutes, the David Blaine of survivor. Mike, just go ahead and do your beach manager and not the Goliath Blaine the David blade. John Hennigan said that dancing is all about misdirection misdirection. Yes. So much now that would be that's something that you can tap on dancing, and in close magic, whatever you said, and plus like that would make me more appealing as an ally. Because like does anyone really wants to vote for a magician to win the game? So like, I feel like much like a key viscera billion dollar lie. I could lie that I'm a magician. And so people would want to bring me to the end. The ultimate goat profession is magician. Anything anyone really wants to vote for magician in the end game because it has to represent your season. You know, you're thinking like this is the winner that represents our season, and we really gonna vote for magician is that it's not a bad point. Although I mean there have been the past. I heard Fabio may the money disappear. I can think of several sports stars also done the same thing. Yeah. Exactly. He's the greatest magician of them all next week question of the week. Alec talked about how it survivor one. Oh, one to never or to never tell someone that you have the idol. So we're going to sort of collectively build a survivor rule. Book much like the Chacho rule book. Give us your own rule you'd like to enter into the class syllabus for survivor one one. So it can be anything from survivor history can beat something generic. It'd be something completely specific we'll sort of build them out next week with our guest. Jessica lease. We'll becoming on to talk about the double episode of survivor, David versus Goliath. You have a bunch of ways you can reach out to us with this information. You can always tweet it to us using hashtag RHA P B and B you can post on as a website dot com. You can post on broth has awesome patriot's Facebook group, you have a bunch of ways to reach out to us. You can Email us RHA P, B, N, B edgy, mail dot com. Tom, and we actually have a bit of a lesson or mail. I wanna go through here. 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Akiva, Nita podcast you want to explain it briefly. And what you guys have been doing. Sure. Rob sister, Nino was on survivor six and eight and then he started a podcast network. You're listening to one of the shows on anyway, Robin. I we couldn't think of a podcast idea after we watched one hundred eighty episodes, the Seinfeld. So people send the podcast ideas every week, and then we spend a magical wheel, and whatever the wheel turns up. We do that podcast this week. We became Harry Potter experts in previous weeks. We've announced the football video game. We've what else have we done? We sometimes watching TV show. We watched the movie leprechaun, whatever people want us to do. We are their servant, and we will do it. So we're at eleven zones in and there's definitely gonna be at least three or four more. So people listening, and they could find me on Twitter at kief K, E twenty-six, actually speaking in this actually was just complete synergy because we've found this out after Akiva got booked on the BNB, but speaking of the brain steals, the might serve as a distraction. I'll actually be appearing on. On this coming week do a brand sealed through the top fifty TV characters which is shorter be. Hopefully, very insane. Yeah. Seriously. Check it out if you haven't it's just it's so much fun random, which I think fits my emo- so very enjoyable, and I'm looking forward to this brand seal are really on a you have to what's your thing. Like, I could we get you on with your people are always pitching themselves or like their favorite host. But what how could we get you? What would be your thing? And don't say something like scienc- because Robin. I Don I wouldn't subject anyone to that Liana has really become prolific in like going through people's like social media feeds or going through their official website stuff. Like, I feel like Leon could become winging name merchandise expert and the in the in the vein of like us bagging on Dan wranglings t shirts like we could do something similar here. Yes. She did. Do a really good job today with that. What about like a like a your through trash like who else who's your merchandise s? You're you're Murchison mess tweet like who who is like awful social media cow now know that we could really just tear into. Yeah. I feel like that would be that'd be good. Right. I'll I'll put together my pitch at the BNB are serious about our business plans. So eilly on will put together my pitch because guests on the podcast. You got a schedule on it's complicated. What it's very annoying. I think this might be the last one x Ray pitch to no one. It's like, it's like a three band reply chain. And then news like all, right? What what time we doing in the no one responds for two days? And it's like, oh, the ideal time would have been yesterday, right? Liane while you're working on. And if people have pitches to send you in order to to forward to Robin, Akiva, Anita podcast. How can people follow you on social media? Yeah. You can find me on social media. I'm at Liana Boris L I A N A B O R A S. And I am excited to announce that of course, in addition to the BNB wall, Mike, you myself and Brent welcome out, and we'll be getting back together for a Rupa's drag race coverage. So next week. We're going to be recording a preview for all star season four, and then we're going to be covering the Christmas special as well as our regular season coverage of all stars four. So that will be coming up soon. So keep an eye out for that. It's been a good five months since what about rupaul drag race. So it's time to take the rust off those wheels and roll into the end of the year. 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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 2 Episode 2

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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 2 Episode 2

"Hey everybody before we get into this week's podcast, we just wanted to take a second to outside of the make brief mention of what's happening in the world outside right now I just WanNa. Make it clear that both Liana and I stand in complete solidarity with the grief and pain and anger that has come from the black lives matter movement in response to the unjustified killings of George Floyd Brianna Taylor Ahmad arbitrary. Arbitrary and many more at the hands of police officers across the country, and we know that there are a lot of important conversations that are happening right now. This hud guys it ain't it, but if taking some time away from the news for a couple hours of silliness can help you happy to be that for you at the same time we WANNA use platform as a way to amplify block voices people. People of Color who are speaking their truth about what is happening in this country every day, so if you haven't checked it out yet on our reality, TV wraps feed. Bryce Isaiah actually just recently spoke about the recent police killings on this week's episode of the Purple Pants Podcast, which rob subsequently re posted on the main feed I, highly recommend each and every person listening right now. Please check out his extremely. Extremely vital message. If you're looking for ways to dedicate yourself to the caused, you'd go to join campaigns. Zero Com a which outlines ten policy proposals to help curb racial policing practices, and for every donation you make campaign zero rob sister Nina will match your donation dollar for dollar just sent a screen shot of your donation to rob at rob website dot com also include in the show notes a list of. You can donate to around. The black lives matter movement as well as several articles that aggregate podcast created by black host. So to all our listeners of color. The BNB Archie P at large is here for you whether it's an ear to listen handhold or A dufy podcast about random episodes of survivor, which serves as what Mike would call auditory junk food. We want to stand alongside you. As we fight this injustice, there is no ambiguity black lives matter. Some day. Right? Sounds. As the R., H.. E., Ambi. GotTa. Bright? Lay. School I can tell you. IS THE ARE A. Welcome to the HP BNB for episode, two of Survivor, the Australian outback, where should I say good day? Mate, that and many more Australian phrasings will take place over the course of our podcasts as we do a deep dive into the classic episode of Survivor. The Australian back all the way back from two thousand one only a week after the super bowl cannot wait to get into. Into this with somebody who I always share my beef jerky and my mangrove worms, and my small bars of chocolate with Liana Boris Liana. How are you? I'm good at this was the food episode of survivor apparently discussions about rights talk about fish, talking about rights about fish beef jerky grows food, eating a very thematic, and I enjoyed that very much welcome to old school survivor. Actually mattered nothing. Yeah, that's what I was reminded of. Because we do the casuals corners segment frequently, and I, always see comments about. Why can't we make get more like the old days? Where they had to actually survive and I was like Oh. That's why people think that. They're getting more food now because we don't have whole episodes. Focus on how they're starving. Yeah, well to be fair. This was also the season where they literally ran out of food, and we're so drained that Jeff probst had to like basically mercy. Give them like a welfare check on rice exchange for Kobe's flag. Yeah that's true. The trade I trade Angela had never so. That yeah, that's a good point. I didn't think about that. I mean I don't think. Was it just that they ran out of food because with the conditions more in his harshest, some of the other places all right, it's a little bit. It was that they had ran out of food, and they'd also located their new merged shelter in a riverbed, and there was like that's right and as loud that Ha-. That took away some some good portions of their food. Yes, no, that's right because it like wash everything out and I remember that okay. We also mentioned here by the way. We're not having a guest on this week. People have been waiting desperately for a third voice to drop in. It's just GonNa be the melodious tones of Liana and myself or keeping it in the family as rupaul would say just the BNB this week. Yes, just to be. Just the B. and the be from the BNB this week. So, we were talking about this off line. Has Josh by lawyer who is a part of sort of like this? Look back series with rob has called his version I think a wiggle in time trying to figure out. Is there like a cute little tiny weiming nickname? We can give the BNB. The closest thing came up with was the flash being back, but I do not know how that rolls off the tongue. Nothing, you say. Is Horrible. Texted me the flash beaten bag that. What is that what you said? FLASH BE FAST BEING BACK OR AND FLASH BOOK AND BE BACK flashed back and be last and. Now! It looks way better when you write it out because it looks like Oh. That's cool. It looks flashback being there, but because it you say, be and be like. An amorous, and you can't just make a small little noise. That's really terrible. Should we do an Onomatopoeia for an percent? Back. Actually being in back. Flash being back. Lash back. This is a flashback rewind. What if it's the RHA P.? B. and B.. R.. B. Rtd. BACK WE AREN'T JP. REWIND Kinda. Cool okay. JP BNB rewind I like that, but you have to do it like with like a an affliction on your voice like Rha. Really put on life, the sound effect of the taper winding. Yes, okay, perfect right now. The whole thing we'll have to figure out how to edit a at that end the tape rewind sound effect, but then that's cool. Because if the BNB, we ever do a remix version, then we can naturally do the RHA. Riemann imagine what the Remix is going to be this podcast at a normal. Exactly, it's going to be the most. Palatable Parts smushed together. It's probably going to be about ten minutes of content across. The near sixty episodes. You've done at this point more than sixty. Yeah, Yeah, Oh, my gosh. One. Hundred the nonsense we created. How many episodes do you think we done? Let's see we've done we've. We've done five seasons of fourteen episodes of peach. Peach. This the food episode. Yeah, we! We've done five did six season. We've done the six seasons. You're right, okay and. Then you throw in like i. a combined like eight episodes across the two big brother seasons that we've done. We might be at one hundred why this is her hundred podcast so my God Mike we're doing. As. You thought we'll. Because there's fourteen then. That's eighty just from the survivor. alona Oh my God. Okay, so we're eighty eight. And then we did one last week, says eighty nine approximately Mike. We're GONNA. Hit One hundred episode during our BNB realize. Records! Don't know this is what happens when there's just the two of us like the third voice sort of buoy us right I was just the two of US mumbling aimlessly, but here's the thing. Obviously, it has been a very heavy week at a number of ways, but I think. This rewind has at least helped with. Is this ability to? Have the ability to do so like mentally. Take Yourself. Out through this window into the past into an episode of survivor, and as much as we might talk about how this episode differs greatly from the extremely fast paced, we're used to seeing I. Mean to to personally I think Leon. I know that we were. We were both in love with watching the Borneo Premiere last week, but I have a suspicion that you enjoyed suspicion as well. Yeah. We was at the episode title. Has It was Oh okay? Yeah, that makes this four. Thirteen when they start taking quotes from people because they just started running out of generic terms to use for situations. Right well I would just imagine that the random mortgage generator it was starting to get a little thin in terms of that I. Did I enjoyed this episode? I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I think. I wanted more Jeff probst. Oh! I kinda missing. Here's the thing you knew like new schools Jeff. PROBST would be all over Roger. Jumping off that rock. Right, oh. Yeah, Oh, for sure I can imagine the comments now. Roger Think about your lawyers at home. What they want to see you. Jump off this rock into the water. Or if he doesn't like him, it's just a lot of shade. Roger, refusing to jump when everyone else has already jumped. Exactly, it's interesting. It wasn't very focused on the castaways much like the first episode of we got barely any stuff between the immunity challenge and tribal council. I guess it's because it was a pretty foreign gung collusion, right? It was a unanimous vote so as Oga Cores vote was much less sloppy than target. Vote that we saw last week, but I mean I will always go on record to say that I still think the pre merge of survivor, the Australian. Is One of the best pre in survivor history and I. Think this episode just like brought me right back to where we talked last week about how the Borneo cast was iconic, and each and every way I think Australia castell had a lot of incredible stuff, and it is not. Is it really the Halcion? Dame changers that were used to across the board sixteen for Sixteen I don't think so, but there's still a lot of magnetic personalities, even showing six days in here yeah, I agree I would say probably overall. Just because of my memory of everything, it's like you know it's the second version it's. It's the remix right? Aubert with an Australian accent. What what does that sound like? And recognize. Where's Shannon when you need? Yeah, exactly I think. Never, coming back to the pockets did my spotless impression of an Australian record. Attraction, the world's largest records. In Canberra. Yeah. That'll be on the list of not will fund will make one. Yes. Why was going to say something and the thing? Oh? Okay, two things one when I was watching this strategy the what I will call strategy. Shannon it's GonNa. Hate this schism Shannon out. There was no strategy in Borneo. GonNa think there was zero strategy. In this, but that being said I didn't mind because it's kind of a nice reprieve from all of the strategy, and because like you said, there's such a good cast. You get so many snide comment. and. Happy well. It's tough going back to this season, but I'm like you know what it's episode two. It's going to be fine completely. Forget that on Kucha. This episode was literally the whole. Kuta storyline was Michael Spook in doing Michael Stupid. Things and Jeff Varner being the main source of frustration for a confessional perspective, so it's like a can't escape it on Cuccia this week. Yeah, I will say that was a little like oh man. No, of course these are the two people that we get to focus on first because it was effectively right off the bat. Jeff talking about Mike Vesting up the rice I'm like starting the rice, and then leaving or whatever, so that was a little bit of a like Oh. Man Moment. But the quote I'm student of. Still whole area. I absolutely love it in so many ways, but I definitely talked about this last week. How you know I was definitely team gone as a kid, but now as it adult I'm more interested in. It pretty much gets transplant adhering to Australia. At the time, I was a big fan of Cuccia. Because I thought that was probably the closest thing shoe PA- Gong you know. It seemed like they were the more like high-spirited tribe looking back. That is so weird to say, but going into this the over Koru tribe not only has it sought more success in general, considering half of this tribe is going to be you know some of the biggest names in survivor history, but I would also say that they have much more interesting dynamics, even just showing them this episode. Where while I do agree that there wasn't much strategy. There was so much social stuff embroiled boiling like a nice Tortilla in like the food stop. Jerry basically subverting Keith's role as Cook. The whole beef Jerky Stop Maryland's response to it like there's a lot of interpersonal dynamics going on in the core that makes them a very complex try I think it's super interesting and I think because you have people I mean Jerry especially. ICON casting, standing out in such a way and being willing to kind of do these types of things, and then, of course you have the whole jerky gate debacle which is all just super fascinating, but I think that's what happens when you just cast entertaining people and I'm you know you're looking at the list or I? Don't know noteworthy for many reasons. Because you've got like Kimmy. I would say Jerry who else Elizabeth Colby Tina like there's so many people from this caste that are just. How such a place in survivor Lore! Even though we really do talk about season one because it's the first one. There's so many people that really played a big role. Yeah I mean it's not to say that. Because of the success of season one this was and will always be like I. Think cumulatively most watched season in survivor history. Where because it was building off that have. Its second season had a super bowl premier for a reality show in two thousand and one that is ridiculous and the fact that able to build returning success out of it as well. It's like it's an underrated cast. Maybe I would say in the Annals of survivor history. Obviously, the Borneo caskets a lot of love, but I think Australia is up there as well whether due to. A famous or infamy begin Jerry. What are your thoughts on Jerry? Because it does seem like I think especially, in lieu of maybe more modern day, villains or things that people have said and done over the years on and off the show, it does feel like there's been a bit of like a resurgence of popularity with Jerry Mandy as opposed to. Her first season, she was known as affectionately the bitch from survivor. I think the thing is. Is that because I've watched so much reality TV. She she ain't boring. You know so. That's the type of person that I wanNA see on television so I'm sure if I had watched live and had been part of the survivor. Community at the time. I have been the biggest Jerry Fan I. Don't know, but I would have enjoyed that she was on the TV, because at least she's making drama. I think I. Appreciate Her because she's a straw like she's a strong woman and I like seeing that on TV and I see I like seeing her being willing to just make the Tortilla. When Keith, the gourmet chef was just making the Mush Rice. I really liked dairy and I always appreciate what hurts seasons. I like watching her. I Love Jerry I think Jerry, no matter what is wanting to bring you entertainment, which makes sense because I believe her career, and this season is aspiring actress, and so I think even though maybe her consciousness of the camera leads to a bit more artifice reality, I think it does lead her to become a bigger personality which definitely sticks out with all these people are like slowly shrinking into themselves. Jerry never did and whether it was that her quieted crush on Colby, going to start coming up next episode her friendship. Friendship with amber. It's like you said like she is someone who will pursue something that she wants, and I really admire that about her I loved that seem or she starts making the Torty, because not only does it show up, Keith but it also shows like Jerry. Go give this that she is somebody who's like you know. What if I have a problem with this I'm just GonNa. Take care of it myself then if I don't like kids cooking, going to do it on my own, and she was super ingenious, and that ends up creating this big hit of the Ohka Cork camp over the gourmet chef who who what he's saying tribal council. We have not a source enough protein around here for any creative ideas. Yeah, Jeff was like you guys have fire and a gourmet chef. Why are you not eating well? By the way rude and I loved it like. What's the deal guy? Why and Then? Keep keeps that until we start sourcing great ingredients. He, it's not a farmer's market. You're in the Bush. I also like to use the word sourcing. You're sourcing like gathering ingredients. Maybe it's an industry term is from watching and covering top chef for so many years. Is Like an interesting term like sourcing Great Rating Greens like going to a market and being like. How fresh is this a rubella? Let me make sure I can use with my leafy Greens. While they've managed to source rice. And Flour, somehow, which I was trying to remember, how did they give flour and just one of their packages like the remember that through? They jumped over. They were after they got abandoned from that giant cargo plane where they all puke their guts out Maybe that's another reason why they're so hungry. Because they were abandoned on empty stomachs, Jeff. They were given like these big crates to take to with their camps and I believe. I think flower is there I think that corn as well as I do believe at some point. They're gonNA cook corn kernels down the line in the season, so I think there were some rudimentary like hey, I'm clearing my Pantry as I move, and I can't believe this stuff is still here type supplies. Keith Pantries Staples okay. We don't know how both source today are. Yeah, you're truffles. We'll have to wait brow. Maybe that's where he's like I'm going to go look for. Truffles and perhaps some time. Of some five spice around perhaps last kangaroo for some, so you guys can cook that Tortilla. Yeah man, if only the pig. That they caught. You could have used that for truffle-sniffing instead. I mean Australia is known for its wide supply of truffles. Imagine Jeff Being Right guy in the hat. How you hold a cab, Jeff, we found a fantastic supply of white truffles. We've. Got It all night. I. Don't think it has many calories, though so I think if you're you, you really. WanNa get some food. I. Don't know if that's necessarily the best, but it is a great ingredient. So would be happy about that. I learned from this week of top chef that. White trouble. Almost three thousand dollars so like. We had colby pocketing coral later on the season and getting off I. Think you could just like honestly. Throw some truffles into your shorts and like ask to get voted out and then just fly back to the states with more money in your pocket. They may be somebody who comes in second place. That's right. Yeah, Fleiss case. Sneak the truffles on the plane. Don't declare them when you cross systems because I don't think they're gonNA. Let you take your trump. And then yes, sell them on the black market. I don't know, I think you. Would you still make more? Or how do you truffles last a long time, 'cause? Maybe you can still hang out for a while. See how well you do, and then that's your backup plan to make money, or you could do something where you like threatened to burn the troubles that vote you out. ooh, yeah because you're GONNA l.. Maybe there's a rule against splitting truffle money, though yeah, that's the way around it like while. They said we can't put the money, but they didn't say we couldn't split the truffle earnings. Up All earn truffle alliance it's going to happen. Yes manifest the best. Liana you talked about calories I'm so happy you did. Because that segues perfectly into our first game ear on the NBA because this week much like the second episode of Borneo Rot in the rose food challenge staple of old school survivor as opposed to a pantry staple Keith, I would say that there are some interestingly sourced ingredients. I would say that that we're. The survivors had to eat in communiques. Maybe not eat so much in some exceptions, but you know. This differed a bit from the boot Todd Larva that they had to inborn neo and they had a whole wide variety, a literal wheel. Redknapp style of ingredients to eat, but you know what I. I feel like we hear sometimes on survivor. Like Hey I'm I. It doesn't matter if I eat those disgusting thing. Because this is calories big like survivor, go bone when Kenny and Michelle are eating termites on day. One like it's protein so I thought okay. Let's think about how much nutritional value they're actually getting out of this stuff, so Leon basically I'm GonNa, give you two foods that were on the wheel, and the grows food, eating challenge and ask you which one had more blank as in like a facet of nutrition, and you have to figure out which one was the more nutritious in that value all right? Let's council Macara's Bro I got. Exactly like people who are calorie counting on survivor, you're to want to write this down Do you think that people muschamp kimmy opted out due to her vegetarian? Still I guess it's sort of Pesca -Tarian ISM because I believe. She said that she wouldn't have any land dwelling mammals. In email, yes, any mammals. Did she say anything about? Birds. She said she won't have foul either. Okay. Okay, so, but she really fit well. She's worms are. Sarah Worms Fish. That is not true I. think words are fish. We're defining where. All become dirt fish. Yeah well one thing I will say before we get into the game. First of all super, sad that Jeff probst did not make a personal hand delivery of either the roared or immunity challenge mail, so that was very disappointed, grownup all only from that first season, he got promoted from version mailman. That's so sad. Also the no was that impact packed font like I. Could I look? Like the smallest. Hosted No. For goodness, sakes at least one of the really good positive changes survivor made. Making them readable. That was such like there was a real test. Feel like people who are not very good at eyesight would have a really tough time reading that parliament because the was such an I mean it was like such a close leaked printed together because at the scribble everything onto it. They couldn't get food source larger pieces of paper. And that would help also. There was a ton of didgeridoo music during. Challenge was all I could hear. It was a fun. Especially the theme the opening intro was so much fun right because it had like the crocodile stuff especially when his mouth closed and the guy went. Yum like that felt like very. Americano of infused. Take on Australia, right? This is what we know about Australia. These things I hope that you enjoy well. We learned a lot about. Bush Tucker, which is sort of like another. Is that a euphemism for what a drag queen does in their career? I think so. Yeah, it's a good way to define them so this is some of the Bush Tucker stuff that Jeff helped guide people through, even though he did not die the tree mail that was written on a thumb. Tack all right so Liana, which has more fat. Cow Brain or mud well. Okay I. I think brain is super fatty, so I'm going to go with brain. That is correct. Cal Brain is super fatty. Nine grams of fat mud only has point three four grams of fat that lean a little mud well. We per what? The. Per per ounce per per pound for per serving purse or Okay got to. Those nutrition facts on the side of things they're like these are the calories for one serving and but like one. Two goldfish. Now that reminds me of. There's a medium where there's a kid and it's like how many. Like, how how many how much orange juice you want, and he's like seven, and then it's like seven. What and he's like red or something it doesn't it just? Doesn't make any sense that's going to be my son guaranteed. To like father like son. My son has taken to like. I've started to realize that my son has gotten to an age where I can't. Do things with him because he'll want me to do them again and again if he really enjoys them. Yes or two point. And so instinctively one day he stuck his finger out and I stuck my finger out, and I touched it and went. How much like et, and he loves it and we do it at least fifteen times every day now. owned. That's terrible. Hope you'RE GONNA. Get really into your impression. There's another one that's a little more little less on the sanitary. That also involves fingers. Wear. He sticks his finger in my mouth and I go. And he loves it, and so does it to me twenty times a day even more so than. All right, so the key is stopped doing stuff with your child. Early Sunday involving fingers. Yeah, like if you you have to think before everything you do with Asher just think am I okay doing this fifty times a day. That's the world that were I. Remember One time I babysat. One of my college professors kids. We played this game called icebreakers a million times. We wanted to wear like there's like plastic blocks of ice. You have to like tap. Yes and it's sort of a I can't. I can't remember if it's like Jenga. It's just random, but you like. Knock them out and then eventually it all falls, so you don't want to be the one to knock it all. CALLED THE RANDOM JENGA I don't know if the other ones have structural integrity the whole thing up, or if it's just like random chaotic ZANGA feels like a way to describe twenty twenty. Yeah with less rule. Somehow yeah all right well. Let's move on here. The which has more protein, an apple or a worm goes outside the apple. Okay, it's gotta be the worm. Yes, the worm has twice as much. Worm has one gram protein and apple slice only has half a gram of protein. Were Verses One apple. Yeah exactly like you or you could have two apples, and you'd have as much protein as from one work. What if YOU WANNA? Skip worm today just to apples. There's I think it's a joke from little Britain, but it's my diet plan is i. just take it home and eat, and then I cut in half for the now am eating half so then I can eat twice as much. All Right Liana, which has boy fat? A fun sized snickers Bar, which is sort of like what I labeled the Nondescript Candy Bar as like I don't I, don't remember. Snickers was the sponsor at this point and came in during marquesses by assumed it was a fun sized, snickers, bar or a cricket. Okay first of all that is so wrong. Dow is definitely a full-size snickers bar. Just cut in half. Okay, so get your candy right Mike. That'd be. Like I don't know wait a cricket. No snickers bar singer singers I'm sorry. sized snickers. Bar has three point. Five grams of fat cricket has five point six grams of fat damn. Cricket. Stick it. I don't know what that is, but. I WanNa drawing now a thicket. Cricket with like giant Hind Legs Yeah and The damn boy! Day. The big boy oh boy. A platform dedicated to insect videos that we can put it on the Chris Krok. ARE INSECT MEMES kill. Yes much like a praying mantis would kill before we move onto more fun and Games Brenick, a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsors. And, we are back, so let's keep on keeping on Liana. which has more calories, tripe or a worm? Tribe or a worm? Again, the units early, messing your I'm going to go tripe. That is correct. TRIPE has one hundred thirty one calories. A worm has one hundred twenty five close trump wins out. Well, you know if you are counting. Calories got away the Worm I. Because you know, you can't just say it's just a worm. It's a big worm versus a tiny worm might be different, though, but that's probably on an average worm is one hundred and twenty five calories. That's bad actually for like a like an earthworm. Yeah, that's that's the because I couldn't find specifically for Mangrove. Worms right. That wasn't in my fitness pal, it was. You don't have to log it. Okay. Yeah, I am I logged in, and then the APP sort of logged me out and said I think you need to do some thinking is i. think you're going down the wrong path here? Nutrition you. You have bigger problems. Have you ever had because I feel like out of all of this is probably like the biggest crossover thing outside of the apple in the snickers bar obviously into. Like more. Modern. I've had it. Before as part of like you know, you can get the assorted bowls. Every single type of me. So I've had it there, but never just on its own. Yeah, I think I've had like a similar type thing. I mean I would imagine that like. It seems like it's fine. I guess I've had hagous. I, it's it's in the family, but it's not like exactly like that. They're related. They're like sucked incurred next to each other in the digestive system, the brain. We're doing set by biological region depending on where it's located their family. The brain is also relatively normal I think. I mean last seen in western cuisine, but you know it's around, and it's fat like fat delicious. Yeah, speaking of that, which has more saturated fat. An apple a well. It has to be a welk. Do Apples have saturated fat? Apples have point one grams of saturated fat. Well. Have Point zero three grams of saturated. has more saturated fat than wealth. Are Super Lean apparently. Okay well, we, the cricket thicket has to get on the WELK's workout plan. Where we have like the buff welk and the thicket. Well. Let's be adventures of buff. Welcome the. I smell comment. Oh My God. Can we okay for our nap Abo, because now that we won the survivor draft by the way. You so much for that. Was drawing dead I believe I came in dead last place out of the four of us, and you crush it because you've got tony on your team by default. Yes, so thank the three of you for not taking Tony so that he ended up on my team I think I like I was looking at the scores, and it didn't matter even if like, let's say Allie had had every single person at five people that had the next top scores, the some of those still less than Tony because he got show many confessionals, and because he won, so it was essentially the WHO had tony on their team wins. Anyway. Let's BNB rewind. Might Mate. To talk about the thing that I was also. Buffalo, welcome the thicket. So that can be our choose. Your own adventure will ride up and then we'll make rather keep a play. The Adventures of Buffalo in the. This is this is something that needs to happen at some. We have enough episodes here in our rewind. We can probably figure out a time to. Bring up their their misadventures once more. Okay yeah, that's what we'll do. If I ever write a choose your own adventure for one of them I'll be sure to feature prominent characters right for this last one Leon. I'm throwing in a bit of a twist. Here I know this is the era of no twist on survivor, but I'm going to list three items. You have to order for me from most to least. In terms of cholesterol, so what has the most cholesterol, the middle amount of cholesterol and the least amount of cholesterol between the cow brain, the fun sized snickers, Bar and tripe. ooh! Okay. I know what cholesterol is. And it. Is it a good kind of cholesterol or the bad kind of cholesterol I don't know I guess it depends on the number. Maybe that's the indicator is like maybe Lena amount means that it's good cholesterol, but like there's a lot and it's like it can't be ov cholesterol. Anyone? WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT NUTRITION? He's freaking idiot. No my mom told me there's good and bad kinds of. She has a lot of bad, but she also has a lot of good, so her doctor said it's fine, but my mom only wants to eat seen wires I. Don't know I stopped listening at a certain point. It was too much. Okay Cow Brain, snickers and tripe. WHO. I want to say the SNICKER. SNICKER is bad for you, but I have a feeling like that's not the case. I'm GONNA go with. GonNa tripe. As the most, yes, has them. Oh Shit! I have to rank that rank empowering them Hauer. Okay I'm going to power rank. Them I'm. GonNa say tripe. Snickers and then how brains? You couldn't be more wrong. In place, fund sized snickers bar with zero milligrams of cholesterol Oh. I I think it's like a crap ton of sugar, but there's no cholesterol and it good or bad. It's like a chaotic neutral snickers bar. Set Place Tripe two hundred twenty milligrams per portion. First place a resounding success, cow, brain, two thousand, six, hundred thirty five milligrams of cholesterol Hamsun. Cow Brain. Watch those arteries cow brain. I suppose so I did not realize it'd be a heart clog, or though maybe this is again over two thousand five hundred milligrams of cholesterol, so can all be bad, okay? Maybe it's Ok I'm now also just thinking about doing an alignment chart for candy bars. SNICKER is chaotic neutral. What what's like what's what's chaotic? Evil chaotic evil has to be something like what's that bar like the fast break garlic? What's a bar? That has like too much crap thrown into it. Oh, yeah, the fast break is like a pretzel. Plus chocolate plus Carmo. It's weird that it's got a pretzel in it. Yeah, I would say the fast break is probably the chaotic evil at this point. Trying to like what other evil candies there are. I think Liz butterscotch lawful good because it's just or lawful neutral. Good Apple. Yes the best kind of change an apple. An apple has saturated fat in it more so that a wealth so it's not as buff as that. Lawful good would be like a Hershey Book. Right like a plane Hershey Bar. It feels like something you can go to. It's like a stand up bar. It represents something very simple very wholesome. Some people don't like chocolate. Though will did. Why are they in here? Yeah get away from my. Candy Bar. To your jolly rancher and whatever fruit bars you got going on through ours? Popsicles yeah. A vegetable as as the summer months, come off the U. of. Lyman Charter popsicles. Did I. Tell You one time I tried to make my own obstacles why? I've bought from idea. They have this little popsicle. Thing where you know you have like the You pour the liquid in the mold whatever east ticket any reason okay so I'm just bought pink lemonade from the store. I made it and I froze it, but when it when it was frozen because there was no like. The water part is frozen, so you're just eating the flavor. It was painful to he'd they were in because it's like this. Our Suite of pink lemonade on times ten. Too much so then I melted all the popsicles poor them back in the. Added more water. And tried to remake them. They were awful I. Mix them back together. Go Mingling once more than maybe we could separate this out and all work again. My thought process was. Concentrated so I have to dilute them so instead of just throwing away the dollar, because it wasn't even the full thing of Lebanon, they were tiny i. was like no, no no Leeann. Several more hours trying to solve this problem. Oh my God, they were horrible. Got The control faction. Can. Okay, we'll do I keep one frozen to be able to compare. I don't know now. Did you like stick popsicle sticks in them, or did you like just like put pop amount in like? Lick them in your hand. You try to create something to hold the possible. Holding my hand. Holding colored, Ice Cube and Put It on a plea and the like it. No, no I had They come to the thing for Mike comes with little sticky stakes that use since. I'm glad tessler name. He Sang So. Yeah I mean Oh man. Nothing those memories now and then I kept them in my freezer for like a year and a half. Why did you guys? They were bad, but I can't throw the either. I really try to not throw food away like food. Waste really bothers me, so it's reporter using. Them Pink lemonade back into the show. And every couple months I tried them again. Maybe this time they'll being so you have this weird like complex with this big limit neighbor. Like maybe this time it'll be good. Yeah, right like maybe maybe now. This is not like wine on it doesn't. Get better with time. Aging a fine popsicle. I think that's what they said hey yeah. That's the phrase amongst all the ice cream vendors. Right. Common in their lexicon much like sourcing so it. It was the mess all I. Could have soap ingredients to make popsicles Oga core would've loved that in the heat after they went to the world pool as Maryland called it. That's right the family, whirlpool or whatever? Where was this? We're all just going to hang out. Oh, that was a really really fun editing moment. Where was it I can't remember who was he was like? Oh, I? Don't think there's any fish out. Mitchell then just the camera one right below the surface of the water and showed the fish swimming around. There's a ton of fish. That was so good. That was hilarious. Well Liana Congratulations, I think we've all learned a little bit about not only nutritional facts about the various things, survivors, but your own popsicle making expertise so I. Think we're all the winners here. My popsicle making adventure for only I knew how many calories I bet there's no cholesterol lease least I was good there. Okay do I. Ask a question now. Whatever you WanNa talk about it or you just want to move on I, think we're. We're sort of being loose and fancy. Free of the past half hour is an indicator of that at this point. I was trying to think of a question. The only one that was good that I could come up with was. Can you Fisher Rubber ducky out of a bathtub because I was obsessed with that confessional from? Toby is a like I. Think just because of the reputation. We have from Kobe. We don't really remember him as a survivor character. Remember him as. hunk challenge beast. Nearly one the game, but he is a stealth confessional giver like he had that moment. He's GonNa have the I. Ain't no Hershey Bar like he is maybe one of my favorite confessional givers survivor history because he is so stealthily. exactly and I don't know if he he intended I. Maybe, but it doesn't matter because it's entertaining. I think it's the Jerry thing because he's also an aspiring actor like. Do you not remember when he started the movie Red Eye after this classic? The classic is of course I forgot. I think he played like an FBI agent or something. Like that, but yes, obviously, he's going to go on to have his own career in television and film, so let's clear that like he knew he was. Given it to the camera. That was a fun little. This episode was surprisingly light on Hopi. In honor of Jerry I suppose, but that was a fun little little moment from him. Well, be careful. Don't remind rob otherwise. We're going to have a Santa Santa's summer house. SITUATION ON OUR HANDS WON'T BE DONALDSON AS Keith's head bodyguard interesting. It's not Keith Keith. Keith, yes! I believe it's the character Linda Keith played by Beth to saw but I like to think that it's a reference to Keith. Keith Keith. Yeah exactly you can't sue a CBS not Keith Keith it's. Maybe KIEF can make our guest appearance and buff welcome thicket. Was I think kief should be their enemy. Oh. Yes, the villain, of course everyone good story. billeted this case Keith and his bodyguard Colby Donaldson. Dolby Donaldson. Yeah don't. Make It. Totally different. It's totally different. You guys that reminds me I. Think I love this story so much. There's an interview with Vanilla ice where he's talking about the Dun Dun Dun Dun under pressure versus ice ice baby, exactly yes, and he's like no, no, no, there goes like this done done done to Donda Dun Dun, Dun Danta and ours goes like this Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun. Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun. So it's totally different, and he's like one hundred percent serious in the interview are Dobie. Carlson doesn't wear a cowboy hat you wears. The door. Yeah, he wears A. Colby Carlson Fedora, wearing enemy of the thicket and the Buffalo Elk. That's amazing. Well see things that are amazing. We are going to play a game where Mike. You'RE GONNA have to guess. What country contains what giant thing so last week we talked about big things. In Australia we talked about the banana prawn hand with the little hand on the finger of the big hand, which I've since seen a picture of and is super creepy. Very Weird. Hilarious because we we didn't know at the time episode. We were going to be doing next and so I just thought that it was. So. It's so weird that we ended up going to las granted. They don't visit these because they're far away from where they should've taken on gone on one of those reward trips. Ooh, yes I think so or maybe the premium. That's what the jury people did like who knows maybe they got to see some of these icons. Australia who I can't imagine cal visiting the giant frock. Chime word, the giant beef jerky statue probably. Yeah. He worships the giant beef jerky. Got Damage just went to the giant piece of grass, and I smashed it in my jaw and two on it. That's right. It's actually giant piece of Grass Mike, get your stories straight, okay. So because we talked about that like let's continuous stupid converse. And so what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to guess what country is big thing existence. You're only two options. Okay, so it's just the the US or Australia okay now what I did just because everybody's a stickler for rules. I removed something that existed as multiples. Dir duplicates in countries, so there is big like the big apple, not like the big apple like New, York but. Big Apple. In Australia USA New Zealand and Canada. Saturated Fat, I know right, it's. Way More than a worm or whatever the comparison was, so those got removed. Okay, so we're doing things that are unique. There is only as far as I could tell one big version of that item okay. I know. I'm also not including things. That are not currently up as far as I can tell so for example I really wanted to include the big slurpee, but that was dismantled in two thousand nine, so sadly likely why? I don't know why they would ever dismantle the big slurpee I've I have no clue. Brain freeze from looking at it. We're like this is too much. This is too much saturated fat. Saturated Listen I. Need to watch my weight here. I, WANNA become a thicket. Know thickets here. If you want to follow along I, have old picture, so Mike you the Lincoln the chat, and then if anyone else, who's interested in this stupid game, you can go to a bit dot. L. Y. Slash big things BNB. I know I. Don't we? The United States that can I make that a thing? So, yeah, that is bit dot, L. Wise, slash big things being be all lower case, so the word big were things, plural and the word BNB, no Kief okay, so just big things. All Right Mike now. You have the pictures of these items. I did have to make some edits to some of the pictures. The weird white polygons that are really. 'cause I didn't WANNA I didn't WanNA. Give anything away for example, a flag in one okay I was GONNA say. Is there like a side and it's like welcome to USA. Thing. There were also few things I should cover them. There's an ad that cover because I didn't I didn't know if it would give it away. On your computer. No, no, no, no, like in the picture. You can see an advertisement in the background. Oh, my gosh is this. Might be able to game the system do. Though the Australian adverts, obviously, of course. All Right? Let's just go ahead and jump on, so your first thing that you have to identify is the big mango, and there is a man for scale or maybe a child. Perhaps I don't know how tall the child is well. How old do you think this guy is? I don't really WANNA play that game. Let's age this. Sounds like a little kid because like Spencer bledsoe. Itar. Maybe this is maybe it is better bledsoe. Young, lad so I think that's unlike this is probably at least ten Spencer's high, which is pretty pretty high I'm GonNa? Let's leave that away with Spencer. I'm going to say this is mango. I feel like the fruit like mango does not feel very American to me. So I'M GONNA go with Australia that is correct. Yes, this is in Australia. I didn't know if the foliage would give it away, but it was. I gather places in the US is way, too, but yeah I mean you could see that like plumage in Hollywood boulevard or in Miami I. Don't think that I don't think Miami would have a giant mango maybe. Maybe they should get on. It got a we're going to be. Be Great, you know. We got to get those big ASS mangoes. All right and I. It's not real. I just to make that clear. Real Guy Johnson the giant peach situation where there are a bunch of bugs and a little British boy living in the bank. They loved that. I liked it I liked the book more Hashtag hip survives, but it was a little scary to me. Because his parents member of his parents got killed by rhinos, and then there was a rhino in the clouds that was haunting him the entire time. Yeah, now that was terrifying, actually now that you brought back that horrible memory. That was very very scary. I also couldn't eat a crinkle cut fries for very long time after that movie. Because if you remember like little green blowy, worms that peach grow ruling. IRIDESCENT Green Crinkle, cut fries, and so I felt like I was eating worms every time I saw that afterwards well, you wouldn't have done well on the gross food eating challenge. The worm on the Kimmy reminds me of with the beach. Weird dissociation yet, but I'm here for it. Yeah, so all right well. Let's move on from Spencer blood, so and the giant mango and move to our next. Large item which is a big fork oud, which by the way I think our next little literary venture, after the adventures of buff, wealth and thick, it is definitely. Pledge in China. Good. Oh, yeah, we'll make sure to not include any little creatures that remind you of fries. French fry based creatures in this. Okay! No thanks all right so the fork. Alright so first off the forecast sticking straight out of the ground. Trying to look at this architecture here, this brick building feels very like early twentieth century American to me, so I'm GonNa. Say The USA. That is correct. Yes, I thought you would be like. Oh Americans are fat so forth. But. Yes the giant fork, which looks like. Four someone's lawn, but with one giant over the prank. Yeah, this is the rank that was played on this clear office building or whatever it. All right next item up is the jump in crocodile. Yes, this is a crocodile that is on its tail, its vertical. But it looks like it's jumping. Is it like bouncing on its tail, or is it like jumping and the still dragging on the ground? That's a good question I think it just was jumping, so I think it jumped in the air and its tail is just happy. and. It's also fake a statue and the. Whole. Notion them the actions and motives of a statue of A. Crocodile. So, character work, let's get into the what. What would the jump in crocodile? What is it jumping from its father? All right so I mean all right here. My here's my thought process like crocodile. The first thing I think Australia did you want me to think Australia and go with the USA? I think that's a legitimate thing you can do so I'm going to say America. No Unfortunately Mike it was. I thought you might overthinking. So No. I told me as long as the Liana. You can't do a crocodile. He'll know immediately then. I was like not. He wouldn't think that I would think. We're GONNA Princess Bride. Oh, you did and I drank the poison. Next up. This is included because it is so ugly, it is technically by description of Buffalo. It looks like from this angle. It looks like a cow version of Jimmy Neutron. Looks like someone an ugly paper mouche Jimmy Neutron Bath. They're like crap. Yep? This is this is my statue. Put it up. Man The Guinness. Book of World Records People are coming tomorrow we. That was supposed to make the statue of Jimmy Neutron well I. Guess He'll have four legs in this person. Be completely nude. That's what's weird. It's not good. Buffaloes are not like pink. What is this? It's really weird, and that makes me think it has to be American, because I feel like this is the type of craftsmanship that would go into this type of. Mike you Judge. Really! Here's the thing. This is sort of technically a trick question because there is a giant buffalo on the US, but this one is so ugly I just had to include God can't stop. Now this is going to replace the Rhino and my James and the giant Peach Tree Hymns. That will be spencer blood zone the giant mango. This will be it'd be. Jimmy Neutron. Nude Buffalo till does parents. Name. Oh, go to sleep Jimmy Neutron Nude. Buffalo doesn't exist. Terrifying. Or the season for anything the you know the guy like sleeping turned away or like. I'm pretty sure he's thinking about breaking with. Thought Oh, here's another thing for your nightmares. This is the big chainsaw which its nickname is big gusts. Interesting. Do you think gus was the man who made it is just like? Did he just choose to name the thing gus. Yeah. That's a good question. I don't know like is is is it a? Monument to someone who. Worked with. Chainsaws frequently. Craftsmen perhaps. Liana as you and I. Both know from Cats Lor, gus the theatre cat, short or asparagus could also be at this mean. US Yes, that's definitely what my I said. That was someone chopping down asparagus with a chainsaw. girthy stalk of asparagus. You're going to need something cup. Just grow out of the like sticks out of the ground. You just like Yank it out. But, maybe maybe this is the thicket version of the ASPARAGUS. I'm going to say I. Feel like big. Gus could be like an affectionate Australia nickname, but I feel like it wouldn't. Actually, I feel like would cheekily name. It's it's chainsaws would say Australia. Is Good Oh USA. How yeah. I'm trying to remember where big GUS is. It's just like along the side of the road. This was. It actually doesn't look that big. This is probably the best picture because of the perspective. The ankle photos taken out but exciting on the last. It's in Ish Meg. Michigan apparently yes. Oh, there was one place in the US somewhere in Illinois I think that had a bunch of really big. Big things it felt like they were going for some sort of record. They have a world's largest knitting needles and not mouth. Do they're just like finding objects and are like a world lamp, world's biggest phone charger just like looking around at at things and making them giant. If you break againist well, okay, a few questions one. Is there a Guinness World Record? For big items like the you have the world's biggest thing. Is that one thing and then the other thing is? Do you get money for winning the Guinness Book of World Records Or is it just notoriety and your name in the book? I feel like as soon arrived I feel like the money comes in when you can say like. Hey, we're a Guinness winners and that's GonNa. Bring more but traffic. You know like right you're you're GONNA make more income by notoriety. Notoriety is linked to come with a Guinness record, so it's sort of a transitive property. Okay, okay, all right, so that makes sense. Yeah, it's like. You know. It's like then if your record gets broken, would you have to like? Give money back if you were given money in the first place? Yeah, that's a good question, but if you you just lose the title, if something else is made, that's bigger than neo, which I guess is less money changing hands. Otherwise you could run a scheme where like you in another guy or like? Okay I I'm going to grow the world's biggest Pumpkin then you're going to grow one like one inch bigger than I'm GONNA grow on one inch bigger than that, and they'll just keep trading money back and forth. And Dennis will just completely have to go broke. Declare bankruptcy. I declare bankruptcy. Declare the biggest bankruptcy. The world's biggest bankruptcies record for that at this point. Maybe I hope not be sad. was being big thing. Let's continue our list. The next thing is okay the world's biggest bench. As. As soon as I saw this I was like this is the Dan Lembo. The giant share from from Gulliver's travels. They had pictures of just the bench, but you really couldn't tell the size because it's just a binge so obviously. I had to include a picture with a little person by. What appears to be a you know five foot six. Persons sitting on the bench, so do you think this is Australian or United? States looking at the power lines and I'm trying to see. Traditional Australians and power lines as you would know as I know from. An Australian electricity by night. That is my other career I'm going to say that this is. There's so much arid dusty land that feels Australian three I'm going to go with Australia. That is correct. Yes, when I take my tour of Australia, I'm going to have to go see the big bench see I'll admit I. It's Sorta gave it away with power lines. I know exactly how they stand in Australia. I. Know I shouldn't should block those out to. Let's see if you can get this. I'm trying to now look in the background I see a transformer in the back maybe. A trash can or you gonNA know Australian. Recycling bins. Okay good well. This is the world's largest PECAN, which of course is not a Pecan and it's also not particularly large, but I guess as A. Ratio. Compared to a normal size pecan, this is very large I guess so. It looks more like an almond at a pecan. And it does look like an. pecan or Pecan I say P CAM personally. pecan yes. Yes, pecan! That's going to be the catchphrase of thicket. Rates! USA or Australia all right, let's see here, so pecans I feel like pecan Pie is like a very American type of desserts or as I. Don't feel like Australian really operates that into their baking and I feel like. If it was Australia. The world's largest pecan would be so much bigger. Given the mango so I'm going to say this is America. Correct! Yes, this is American. And there's a plaque dedicated to it, so congrats I think if somebody else were to make a bigger pecan that upstate assigned down so. The money, but we'll see. The garden. GNOME is up next. Go lunch is now. This is a thick boy. Yeah, this is as big as a barn got a nice hourglass figure baby I could waste time watching this thing. I'll tell you what. No. Do not tell me tell me what. Lease lease. All, right, let's see here I. Don't know how much a garden gnome is a part of Lawn Society in Australia as much as it is America, so I feel like Americans will be the first crate giant Gnome, so I'm going to say America. Yes, that is correct. Good good good work Mike. Where is this garden gnome located? I don't know I have to look it up real quick. It's the world's largest garden so. Holding holding flowers porting someone, does it need the world's other worlds largest garden gnome? That'd be so cute a needs to trust trying to find partner. Let's see so. New York. It's a new. York somewhere. Oh. Yes, a coordinator also see. Website, that reads known chauncey world's third largest cardinal. See. Get on that. Maybe. He was the largest at one point in time. They couldn't put stilts on him. That's so sad unstated anyway. You have to rebuild the GNOME people. Now this one. Is called the big sausage king. Show. So. This is a royalty waging. Treat them with some respect. Hot Dog. Let's look here, so this is. This is a hot dog with. Standing wearing what looks like athletic socks and sneakers, and seemingly covering his head in Ketchup. Weird. Is he not wanting himself, or is it like a gatorade? Thing like it's clear. Just worked out right? You're right. He's got the workout socks on the tennis sox. Play a game of pickup basketball like Oh, I can't wait to have a nice cold ketchup bath. I wonder if it's controversial. People because I. Feel like some people would be like. A Ketchup Hunt disgusting. Why is he doing that? Why isn't it mustered? Wire their. toppings whatsoever wiser even. Are you condiment, person I like ketchup and mustard on hot ducks I was obviously as I've told before another podcast I was a famously a picky eater. A while to build up I had to start with hot dog, hot dog plus bun and hot dogs, plus plus catch up, and then I can move on to muster because musters that one. That's like a little. Dab will do yet, because especially if it's like particularly spicy. That's all you're gonNA taste. Yeah Right. I. Love The vaguely you to work up to eating a whole hot dog. Auto! Proud of you probably my. Program All right so I'm going to say. See the sausage king. Makes me feel like like I. Wonder if they don't say hot dog in Australia I'm GonNa say this is Australia. That is correct I don't know how that works, but that's amazing I. Do they say hot dogging Australia. Second Question I'm trying to think of I've ever heard. that. Only her be honest. The only time I've heard Australians say hot dog was one time when I was on Nikki Danza. He also put me through and Australian quiz. He talked about how they had recently had elections for prime minister, and to incentivize people to go to the polls. They were offering free hot dogs to people, but I can't remember if he said hotdogs or sausages. Interesting so yeah, because when I think of a hot dog I think of Oh. Yeah Lake Baseball, hot dog. That's the first thing that pops into my head. Yeah. Edged it. Let's see I think. Snag is I believe in other slang term. Do Australians. Say Hot dog. Is that a weird question to tech Shannon too late. Okay? Maybe we'll find out. Well speaking of sausages are next. Is the giant shuttlecock. Oh, my God that thing is giant. Nothing is massive. No. Tall as a giant government building is now. Look I appreciate the Angola Ankle on. It's specific forty five degrees. I feel like that takes some science behind it OH, yeah! Wait balanced. Shuttlecock, all the weight is balanced in the tip of it. Like a real one exactly sleep model at there's no flesh color Jimmy Neutron Buffalo. Right, Yeah okay, so someone just played. Some giants just played badminton. In front of this whatever building. You think that they played in Australia or the United States I feel like this has to be Australia, because no Americans are so committed to badminton, they are going to light. Dedicate an entire monument to its paraphernalia. This is the USA. Yeah! This is America. Knowledge surprises me. In Kansas, city, so you know if you ever WanNa see it. It's just out on the lawn. It weighs five thousand five hundred pounds. Oh my goodness! I know it's crazy. So. Yeah, and there's also a museum where you can see more Cheryl Cox. Away into that type of thing, yeah, this is the museum. It's a badminton museum or something. Oh, okay, well now that makes more sense. I just thought they were just gonNA randomly plop a statue of a shuttlecock. City it's an art museum, so I mean. You know natural turn our. Our. Art I suppose I. Mean It is the most artistic of sports equipment. There's feathers involved there combs. Yeah right! Yeah, it's it's modern art. It can be anything. Monarch can be anything. I think it makes it look. It made us go. Oh, my gosh, so shuttlecock her birdie. Shuttlecock. Guest I should have been the. Same Birdie when you have the option to say shuttlecock and get away with it because it's totally normal phrase. Why when gym teachers teach badminton, they never let that keep their mouths right exactly. It's always the Birdie Josh Jordan Kayla. Get Him away in here. Okay my our last thing. Is technically called the big wave. WHOA, that's a thing. It's so ugly looks like a beached whale with a giant mouth. If the if we thought the Buffalo was ugly. This thing is a mess. This is the funniest Stucco Project I. Think I've ever seen. This type of our makes us go. Wow in a bad way. Yeah, well legitimate looks like it has like an is so that's why I keep thinking. Wail and little fins on it. I mean this just looks terrible, and there's a surfboard in the middle of it, but there's not a personality which makes me feel like it's like a co surfboard for someone fell off. So I think it's definitely for photo op, so you can get in there and pretend like you're being eaten. I mean surfing Zaka. Giant wail creature. I know it looks like a mountain. It looks like a mouth when I was reading because it was reading, the are the wikipedia articles for large things in this country. There was no picture of this item. And, I had to go and look it up because there's like I have to know what this looks like. And when I saw it, I was just aghast. Oh God. Okay well, so we know that. The Buffalo! The Buffalo was Australian right. Yes, okay, so I'm trying to think like. Is it going to exist in a similar aesthetic? Are we going to balance out the nations here? I feel like Australia has a Raider appreciation for surfing right like the time of rocket power has died out in the United States. Surfing is no longer a thing. So I. Don't exactly know if they would dedicate a monument to it. So in honor of the Great Ross from Australia and survivor, who recently came into the news, and for not so fun reasons. I'm going to say Australia that is correct. Yes, Job Mike you win. By Winning a better appreciation I win a lot of nightmare fuel from these abominations of sculptures. You're welcome I. Greatly appreciate it. Before we get into our next game I just want to take a second to talk about this. The the rock jumping challenge because it's so interesting in so many ways like I think there's a bit of a Mandela where I think we just remember that the challenge was jump off a rock when it really was like jump off a rock, Yo, grab onto the crate and then like Whitewater raft with the crate until you get to the beach. That's a crazy component to be. Yeah, that part. I did not remember at all. It was just so fascinating, and it's like wait. What is happening right now? The Poor Roger. In. Barely swim like jump off. The cliff hobbles doggy paddle to the crate, and it has to hang on for dear life as rapids are like throwing him around before they get to the beach. There's a difference between just swimming in calm water, having to not be swept away and rapids. which is something that we saw here? I also did not remember the most triumphant old Western music. All my God in the ring of fire, taking them into the challenge are so good i. mean it's it's all out of butch and Sundance rise. Alicia put it Sundance. The Sundance you all see Sundance. They call 'cause that was that was the challenged name. Right was butch cassidy. Then I was like okay. That makes more sense for what is happening right now. I love that. I loved that they built into like the natural topography of. We've seen this a couple times when they go to Africa and they have to run across the hills and field I think that's a lot better than like having to build something into a rock, face or construct something entirely. It's like hey, we have this giant cliff. Why don't we use that for something? Oh yeah, no, it was super cool Another moment where I did miss for a second more. I missed it more in this the Jeff. probst commentary, but I did enjoy the fact. It wasn't necessary because there is no puzzle at the end right, so it's just you can just say what teams ahead or what teams behind it does say that in the lower third right exactly exactly. The replacement for not having any of Jeff. probst commentary but then there was that one body Cam Movement, where Roger had a can like look like it was his pov, or do you think that that was recorded beforehand it's a good question like was it a dream teamer like when they describe the challenges and people walked. Over this is GonNa make good moment. Roger put on this body Cam. Yeah, right, but just you. Though because we only have one. Okay, we get spare one. And years. It'll be the most epic, so we're going to use it. I also thought it was pretty crazy that they were playing for two blankets, which is like? A crazy minimalistic reward, but then when they bring the crate over Jeff goes all right. Court opened up that crate inside of the Blake. It's like what. You tired. We'll because he said it what he was saying. Oh the. Once. You're shoot. What did he say? He said something along the lines of your blankets or in the box. I was like no, they're not. There's no way they're actually in the box. They're just GONNA be soaking wet. Come back to camp with your wet blankets. Enjoy. Don't catch a cold and wonder why Oklahoma's having trouble sleeping because they had these like sopping wet blankets from the war challenge, Yeah! So, yeah. When they popped open the top like Oh, they were actually. In their. I wonder if they were wet or somebody just did a really job. Ceiling the containers because that's impressive. Do you think they should do that for all challenges like when they're like you're? GonNa have to hurl this heavy chests across this field. It's like pitcher wondering where the pizzas are open up the chest. Oh one hundred percent that would be amazing. You're probably wondering where your family members are opened up the puzzle box. Know that so much better because I was thinking if they they do the peanut butter. Peanut, butter Jelly bread milk kind of thing, but if they're having to throw the milk round, just butter by the end. Yeah, exactly, it's just it's like. Speed sandwiches like covered in milk and peanut butter everywhere. Yeah. If you Angie version pizza was bad before. Wait till you. On a crate that you have to lick it off like it's honest popsicles. You. Add popsicle now, buddy. Her last game I wanted to make things a bit extracurricular so i. don't know if you remember this Liana since you were a bit of a Johnny come lately to survivor, but in two thousand one survivor, a huge boom market ability was palpable so survivor in all its wisdom came out with a CD ROM Gabe. Survivor the interactive game. Do you have any knowledge of this? Yes, I know that this exists and everyone every single time I hear about it. I'm like Oh. My God i Really WanNa play. That's so bad, so this is making me have that feeling. Thank you very much. Yes, so I never played it so I. Know It exists, says I'm trying to. Related. owned. It I tried to play a multiple times, but it crashed on my dad's computer so many times I never made I never got past the first challenge. The computer would crash, and then I'd so. All I could experience for the first two days. I would never even got. Tribal Council, but there are so many interesting elements of them trying to bring survivor to this game and Liana. What I'm going to do. Is I'm going to talk about a specific facet of the game? And I'm going to list out five options. Four of them are actual things that existed within the game and one of them. Is something I made up. Is. You figure out what I made up. That was not in fact involved in survivor. The interactive game. Okay, I'm super excited. Let's figure this out all right, so let's start here so first off. You can pick. To be any person from the first two seasons. or You can create your own character. On, now, And as a character, you can first of all, there are several custom characters in great like Ron the moustachioed lawyer, but there are stats that you have no matter who you pick. A so which of these five is the fake stat or a character on survivor the interactive game? Running. Empathy. Cutting. Field, craft or intelligence? What is field craft. You tell me. Okay running empathy field craft no intelligence, and what was the other one cutting? Oh in. Running! Right of course, yes, very different skills that. Well there has to be like some sort of physical skill so I'm gonNA say. Because that would be like a challenge like challenge abilities so I'm GonNa Save? Running is real. The weird one that you said I. Don't know what it is. I'm GONNA say that's real because it's weird for you to make up. I'M GONNA. Say I think empathy is real because that would be like social game. Okay? I'm going to say I'M GONNA. Take cunning as the false one. You were so close intelligence. Not Statistics surprisingly for a character running empathy, cunning and field craft are all parts of stats can make for your character. What is a field craft? Well funny? You should ask that. You pick your character. You are taking what's known as survival period now these exist between every reward every challenge, so like going into a reward challenge and going into an immunity challenge. It's essentially camp life. You are given three minutes to assign yourself to a task, and we just watch your character. Do that task for three minutes. So for those of you. Saying I would like to play this game. I will say this. This might be one of the most boring things I've ever seen in a video game because remember. It's three full minutes done twice an episode for about thirteen episodes. What so you don't do? You don't do the chat like the thing. You just watch your person. Do It for three minutes. Yes, if you assign yourself to a role which that being said, which of these roles can you assign yourself during the survival period? Water carrier. Hunting slash fishing shelter builder fired tender or Cook. Oh fire builder or Cook what okay. What would you watch? Someone do for three minutes. I feel like you could watch them hunt. I feel like you go. Watch them build a shelter. Would you watch them tend to fire. Would you watch them carry water. To any of these things, okay I'm, GonNa pick. I'M GONNA pick. Fire tenderer because that's gotta be so boring. I'm sorry. Fortunately, that is real the correct answer, no shelter building in survivor, the interactive game, apparently your shelter as already been worked on. Don't need to worry about that. Thank you Boston guesses this before Boston raw this as I guess you could say I don't know I. Don't know bb. He worked in construction. Maybe it's him. But yeah everything else. Water carrier I think just carries water like to this barrel has a water droplet on it to symbolize the water, others, hunting and fishing, which probably the most active one fire tender you literally grabbed would go back to the fire, repeat, etc, and Cook, which was sourcing local ingredients I suppose. I. That's that Okay Shore. Video game that was a choice. Well the Good News Liana is very survival period. You're not exactly just stuck to watching. Somebody tend to fire or carry water. You can choose to converse with members of your tribe, and this is by far the most fascinating part of the game in my opinion, because this is how you build like Camaraderie with people there are. Are Charts attract the emotional intelligence of our emotional energy. They call it a viewing your try. Members so based on the conversations. You'll have with them. Their will either to you will either rise or fall, and that will impact. Who Votes for you or against you? Okay, so you have to make everybody enjoy their conversations with you. Otherwise they'll vote you out. Or like turn people against other people. You know because you can do that well. This leads into the next question. So when you choose to talk to a person, you are given a prompt of several questions. You can ask someone to start a conversation which is not a question you can ask. How do you think I'm doing? Who Do you think is going to be voted off at tribal council. What do you miss most? Is Annoying you the most. How are you holding up? Okay. I am going to say that you. Can't say you can't be that direct. About who would you vote off so I'm going to say the second one vote one. I'm sorry you cannot ask who is annoying you the Ma and but that's the question. Everybody wants to know yeah, and it's a little weird, because like people will give, response is being like. Oh, it's the end of line for Keith, and then you can sort of give response to that, but you can't flat out. Ask like WHO's getting on your nerves. which this episode of survivor was sort of like predicated upon right? It's like who is who is annoying people, but yes, you can flat out. Out Has Cudi. He's GonNa be the next travel council I think my favorite of these five was. How are you holding up? Because you are then given several responses, you can give to the person and one of them is like you'll do okay. Only blank days left. The best one is I saw someone do this. In the first survival period. It was like data to so it was you'll do okay. Only thirty eight days left which the most passive aggressive sarcastic thing to say someone who's struggling. Yeah, don't worry about it only. Most of the entire game left for you to do. Oh my God. That's funny I'm GonNa Start using some of these phrases when I talked to people. Mostly you how it happened, and we'll see how much emotional energy is coming out of them by the end of it. All right so obviously. gig To do some challenges now you are a bit limited obviously with this being two thousand one on the PC, but which is a challenge, you cannot play and survivor. They interactive game. A slide puzzle of kangaroo. Shooting targets while paddling of dugout canoe. Firing rocks out of a pot, a poll by stomping on a log. Shooting a blow dart at a target. Or throwing torches into a giant walk. Wha, what? Why would you throw torches into a giant walk? You tell me. Okay. I'M GONNA. Say That once real 'cause. That's super weird. The blow darts one I think is also real. A slide puzzle. About rocks, fire rocks out of a catapult by stomping on the on a law. It's sort of like. Remember that challenge on survivor Africa where you like stomped down the lever, and they tossed like a little thing up into a basket. It's sort of that are stopping on a log in a rock goes flying into like In whichever goes, the furthest gets I see okay. So one of these things is not like the other. The slide puzzle stands out so I'm going to say. The slide puzzle is a fake one neon. The slide puzzle is what made my dad's computer crash so many times back. Only known no, you know shooting of blow darts at a target. But everything else whether it's paddling dugout canoe and shooting targets. Whether it's firing out of a catapult by stopping on a log end. Yes, rowing torches into a giant walk are all challenges that are done on survivor the interactive game not only that the shooting targets is used I think like four different times. There's one with shooting them in the canoe. There's a slingshot one. There's like like a sphere one. They basically just repeated the same four games about you know three or four different times. How do you win the walk, one? It was who they did like three rounds, and whoever had the most torches thrown into the wok one? Must have missed that. You didn't remember the giant challenge where they held tortures and threw them into walks. Oh Man Yeah. Keep them yourselves out about that misuse of cooking. This to bigger a risotto. We've sourced ingredients now. Guys Stop It. All right finally challenges a source, a good number of rewards over the course of the season, which is not a reward that contestants receive in survivor, the interactive game and these are applicable, tribal and individual perspectives, a basket of fruit, a chocolate bar, a can of peaches and attentive sardines, an evening with a family member or a bottle of wine with cheese and crackers. The CAN. One is so weird, so that's real, because Y. Yes. I'M GONNA. Go with the wind and crackers. I'm sorry. One of them to be a bit of a lush, no fruit for the wicked here no basket of. By far the weirdest one is can of peaches at attentive sardines. Weird if they're on the. Pairing whatsoever! Yeah That's that's so bizarre. That's so weird. Okay, sure. Maybe that's what all try for my next snack. Maybe it's good maybe. On extra. Sweet and savory nothings says that like peaches and sardines. God Yeah just saying it like me. James and the giant. Giant can of peaches that words yeah well, then that'd be very hard to get out of and see. New York all your voting with the seagulls. The Big Apple, not the one that is in you know. The big things category exactly exactly and I will say this is not a question, but the other fine little fun, little quirk about survivor the interactive game there is no strategy between the immunity challenge tribal council you. If you lose the challenge, you go directly there and God. Help you if you know where the hell to vote. My Gods you have to do all your well, not even strategize. Ask How are you holding up? Who? Voted off at the next tribal council. My God that's awful and you can definitely tell. This game was one hundred percent fast track, and so there was no quality control. They're like it doesn't matter. People will buy by. People love survivor. So. It will buy whatever crap we've put out. Suffice it to say this is not the last survivor game that has made, and we'll definitely put a pin in it. Because something tells me we'll be talking about the other ones sometime soon, but has we're talking about Australia and considering that all these challenges supposed to take place in Australia I wanted to dedicate some time about perhaps a forgotten part of survivor marketings past. Yeah those guided that I still. Own Man for some reason, I still really want to experience the terror. Myself who doesn't WanNa Watch Mike Character. Just spend three minutes carrying water. Just watch a review and the other is I did see like I'll send you. A link is like the reason. I was able to grab all these answers because I. did see like a full playthrough of it online and it was three and a half hours long because of all the damn survival periods Oh my God Mike. How do you spend your time? Give out any time. You can stick your finger on Asher knows. Exactly like listening to his either that or my son stick his finger in my mouth opted for the former. This case makes sense makes now. This is all a naptime thing. Don't you worry, so? I was I. Understand what the spend my free time looking up nutritional facts about crickets and researching survivor the interactive Gabe, but that's what we do here on the BNB we bring out truly ridiculous facts about the world at my God Liana did I. Have such a fun time here, talking about mostly like extraneous things, but also a little bit about survivor. The Australian outback episodes to. Write. The episode recovered. Mike. I love having guests. I love getting to talk to so many different people, but it's always fun when it's just that you of is because the insanity is just allowed to flow, it takes us in insane directions, too weird places, but always enjoyable from my perspective. Yeah, I, hope unlike the reward in this cassie challenge. None of us were wet blanket this week. All dry blankets over here maybe well Liana. If people want to check what else you have going on, the podcasts fear a. what irons do you currently have in the fire that has had several torches thrown into it. Yes so I am podcasting about Ru Paul's drag race, so all star season five just started so Brett Walmart Amman out of an eye. All recorded the first episode for that, so that should be out soon. And then apart from that, yeah, just! At the BNB. You know enjoying enjoying a little bit of a break I guess. For All the silliness. That is this Rha. Array want. Might. We're GONNA have vegemite might have. We're going to have to get rid of the Australian accent because next weekly on. For the next episode of RH. AP's look back into survivor episodes past for episode three. We're going back to mark. We're going to season four episode three next week. which I believe is called no pain, no gain it is a member known for two things I for more survival Listrik perspective. It is the episode where John Carroll. Got Stung on the hand by Che and Kathy Fabric O'Brien be in the bad ass person she has just he's on it to get rid of the poison, but also for Mr TJ perspective. This is really where Boston rob sort of starts coming alive as a survivor tragedy. Tragedy, this is where he makes the big move against hunter and spoiler alert for conversation next week I know the Marquess has talked about a lot about significance of the road to four, and how that really shaped of survivor strategy I would say that Hunter Ellas, boots and survivor marquesses is another under edited historical moment. I think bears a lot of fruit down the line so super excited about that guest. Td, but Leon and I should be back talking about some season four next week. That's right. Yeah not the fruit that you can't get in the game, but. Better than canopy says I think for sure entertain sardines to go with that You can always follow me at a Mike Bloom type adventure before I'm covering top chef, which is in its waning weeks. We had a perennial BNB guest work in on this week, and she was a lot of fun of course I'm going down the Hatch Josh regular every week hovering loss getting some very fun episodes there as well as we round the. The bend on season two and also this week I was on a Robin Akiva. Nita podcast did a double dose show would I was the back half of the week it was a big old back caffeinated like thicket here as we did a brand steal a longtime in the making a survivor stands versus ops where friends and enemies of Robin Akiva Nita, podcasts were pitted against each other in a survivor simulator. It is nearly four. But we really enjoyed ourselves and I. Hope those of you that want to check it out. Enjoy yourselves as well it was. 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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas | BB22 Week 11 | Nigel and Kevin

"Some Game Bright Offense Law. As the R.. H.. Peyton. Some day. Lay. Off. You. The are ASE. I everybody both in two RHA BNB or week eleven a big brother twenty two we are here to talk about the penultimate week a big brother twenty two that was only seven days but felt like seventy but we're here to break down all of the shenanigans lots. Of Shenanigans in particular that ensued this past week. Of course, I am joined by my one and only Liana Boris Liana how are you? I'm doing well did expect terrence morning updates to be like it's Day two hundred and seventy six in the house because that was the pace at which this week moved, but we are so close to getting to the end here. We're GONNA talk about our final four four episodes somehow this week but you know what? For everything that didn't happen we can make so much happen here. Yeah. Four episodes is like twenty eight Nicole Sneezes. Sit through that again and again, and we'll be there before you know it. But we're here joined by genuine. You can call them untouchables you can call them rider dies you can call them power couples. These two we were so happy to welcome from the AP Class of twenty thousand when we did our survivor rewatch over the summer. But now we are welcoming them officially to the big brother being be Kevin mclain Nigel Boca Negra welcome back. How's it going, guys? Oh. Yes. Very excited. It's always weird. Speaking in unison worry. You must only speak in unison. please. One of you said. Okay. Let's try that. Okay. MIC introduce them, and then we'll see how the alright McLean natural, Bocanegra how you guys doing we are doing awful. Things. From US making you do that makes you feel awful. Sounds like you don't WanNa make it reminds me of now I have the really stupid image of when they introduced the teams and big brother eighteen and it was the. Big. Paul did this Weird Hamilton because we saw it every like that was that season's version of Memphis made to alliances called wise guys like you just heard it every single previously on. So now we've had a callback spoiler alert. We're GONNA have many call backs a big brother seasons past but thank you for bringing up a time when maybe things were a bit brighter or at least more entertaining and big brother history, which is to say big brother eighteen, which says all you need to know about. The season. Preacher Big Brother Twenty was kind of fun. I Post. The poster, the twentieth interesting as well. So listen. Some seasons are more fun than others I think we can certainly take some time next week to do a postmortem once the winner is officially crowned but I'm GonNa go to Kevin Nigel here, you guys do not need to speak in your alternate. because. Obviously, we know you guys as survivor fans who came to be as survivor fans, but I would love to hear from each of us to like what your respective history is with big brother where you running alongside with big brother as your survivor fandom were you into one show over the other initially. Who I? In order. I actually started watching big brother one back in two thousand and. I was really into it but understand anything. Like Cassandra for some reason. and. Numbers would come up to banish them. I. Thought I was to save them. There's like American idol or which is often yet in this time line but like brain when too. So it's just a different time, but it was I soft Washington, all stars, and then definitely to becoming a full-fledged superfan and big brother twenty Tuesday means to a casual. So I think it's an interesting trajectory but I'm a Superfan for almost most big brother's existence. So I had been watching survivor actually hadn't heard of big brother until a fringed. Survivor and recommended Big Brother But it was during the offseason. So I ended up just binging probably two thirds of BB sixteen. binging overwhelms me and I kind of just like dropped off. I was like it was enjoyable but it was just kind of like a lot when I didn't know the product that well then when bb seventeen rolled around. The live experienced is significantly more fun than just like binging the TV at it because I. Think you can be a bit more interactive. You can follow along podcasts and everything. So from bb seventeen on I been completely invested your. Seasons. entrees some real. All Stars you know and So for the first time solid big brother five on big brother three right now finishing that up. So it's just been a really fun right for him to say things from the old school season's too and I have to say, I, think it is absolutely insane that we don't always talk about the fact that people found out. They were siblings on big. Brother. Bizarro world where I'm like, how was I see him for so long and this never came up. Like. Yeah. What other show has this ever happened on or would ever happened on where you have this reveal right? Like yeah, it's a wild. Just take that isolated incident and you're like guys this is crazy. Okay. Well, let's not forget this. We'll specifically in the context of a competitive reality show because it could be something rail world, right? I'm like Oh, let's bring on these two people who don't know at the related, but it's like, all right. You're in the competition for five hundred thousand dollars and also surprise you're GonNa Change Your Life because you actually have a half sibling that you've never met before is also competing against you and it's crazy to think about a lot of people are saying like what the Hell is big brother doing with steaming and it's twists and we forget that even on top of the project DNA stop the season before it was like through XS together in the house like let's. Throw people who have had like really toward relationships together and have them compete against each other big brother was not afraid to get pretty messy with like just kristen creating naturally bread drama its initial casting I think now it's moved into like creating problems. It's casting and maybe a different way a less digestible way than just putting siblings who didn't know. Each Other on the show together I. Think also the point about the experience of big brother to watch it live is so so important because big brother is almost like a lifestyle especially when it's typically on on the summer like, okay it's big brother season like now this is this is my life. Now it is big brother this is my live. Do not remember this big brother seventeen. Celli did a Musical nobody. Yes. Yes. Unfortunately, I do remember that and it was like what the hand motions and they were all standing behind. The Shelly Audrey Jason I think back in the days before like every when everyone co-pathetic in okay. Before things really cracked open on big brother seventeen. Maybe Miss Remembering the Wax Street boys? Was a surprisingly, very musical season Oh and then what is on? Did they play and Big Brother Sixteen? It was the team America tasks like Frankie came up with was. So. To impersonate the impersonated the evicted houseguests and I'm Tim America said that does that doesn't count you don't get any money. Frankie, it's really great reaction shots in that season and that was one of them when Julie Chen comes over and be like whatever the. Word was. America does not approve of like. The way she said it was so cutting to like take that. Play. Well. Kevin Nigel we are nearing the end of big brother trying to, and you've you've come onto a couple of our edgy podcast to talk about him. But now that the season is slowly being lowered into the ground before we declare a moratorium on it, what what if your thoughts been especially as of late as we make this March to the final week so I've never been. So excited I brother season to end. So that is a positive in general I think it's just. To me, it shows that I think for all sorts of returning seasons. You should want a little bit more messy players. The brother I think was a little bit too many competence affable generally people who are part of any en group in their normal life, and so they clung together and that was a path along the way my dad's attacks. She hates the season and he is like complete casual I. Just Christmas has a bad temper Dave on insulted Devon. Is Okay I. Guess it's just like the randomly casual tweets what I get from him and so it's. Exciting he's in the world, but it was cool to see some of the people we haven't seen in so long and I it something that's important to remember when you're watching it live is that because there was still little unpredictability from week to week, it felt really torturous at times but I think at this point looking back in retrospect it's a little bit easier to. To evade accepted that you weren't gonNA. Have a lot of unpredictable moments. We can appreciate some of the conversations between Dave van and Kieser, for example, I. Look back and enjoy some of the high points and just kind of try to block out. So maybe some of the lower. Tier and that plan on this past week round table out how people are obviously very low on the season because I think what people are looking at right now it's to your point, the predictability of the fact that one alliance steamrolled and line with that alliance steamrolls once it came down to that select few but I do think that you bring up a good point that like we did get a month of Qaysar did get three weeks of journal the preacher even though that had his own set. Of unfort- of predictability still had some very fun moments. It just turned out that you know once we rolled into that second half of the game which people usually ascribed to being the more like Oh my God exciting have this is when moves are being made alliances breakdown. The ends incite the opposite ended up happening here. It was more scattershot in the beginning when everyone was just sort of running our some people are running around like chickens with their heads cut off and others were just trying to. Solidify some sort of mass that could steamroll their way through the game. So I do agree that I think looking back on this things will be a bit more favourable I'd say, maybe a bit more favorable in the way to like a big brother twelve wise of like, yeah. There was a larger macro story line was one of being straightforward. There was a little curly accused in there. There were some fun moments and characters and. Dan One that mini veto. So it was not completely one straight line the entire way grow I. Think also from a strategy perspective of when you can kind of go back and think about the dominance like that's something that is really impressive. I know it's mostly rooted and competitions, but the whole committee of being completely made up essentially Jewish the laugh ability of Julie Chen saying the committee Memphis, the committee and US being like. Oh, she has no idea what's going on to the committee making all the way to the end was just like did that really happen See did. She really did and like that's hilarious it sucks I think a lot of our faves got cut. So early and that was the group that steamrolled when you think about the fact that it was something that Julie Chen truly did manifest your point. That's that's just hilarious we. Got There is something about the endgame cares or not exactly contestants most of us wanted to see recanted. Appreciation or insight into who they are as people beyond just like Christmas is the person that her foot now like oh christmases deranged which i. Came to that conclusion of few years ago. Right. So it's fun to see the these contestants I have a new appreciation. I WANNA say ironically love Nicole France all ironically appreciated Nicole Frenzel. Like. Idea, that one of the biggest villains and. Being. Is just on these kind of flaky. Hilarious in its own right. and. I appreciate the more I think. In retrospect is a lot of really strong moments and I think a lot of casts telegenic. It just didn't go the way our hearts wanted to live. In one thing that I've actually really appreciated about especially survivor in particular because there's so many seasons. Each season is like a self contained story. So you have almost choose your own adventure. What are you looking for? You can look for a tragedy survivor whole our one tribe just gets decimated and we can look at bb twenty two as like. A season where a ton of people came together and we're just like too good at the strategy in just like road outside the very end and like I think selling it's like it can be impressive. South one that we particularly enjoy as we watch it but looking back at all of the different volumes, we can kind of appreciate some of the game play from. Yet I mean tear point actually thinking about this. I. Kind of think this is like the survivor Palau of seasons and that you have one group. Decimate the other one, and then maybe you have someone like a David who is going to be the Stephanie Allegro Grosso of like you're an outsider but likely really want when the group here and then when it comes down to it, you have your Tom Westman in the form of Cody Calcio. Also try stater. Who's like, okay. I'm the big leader here and you have people putting is on him, but he's able to take them out in the form of like a Tyler and Memphis and now you sort of have like I don't know is is Enzo the Ian Maybe the Throws their game on the line to protect them and see the Katie Gallagher I. Know I think is the Karen Oh weekend gave the front runners because. That's actually very true ends as the carrying of, but unfortunately I think we're missing that moment where you know cody's about to get rid of Enzo Enzo blows up on cody the way that carry. Oh, cody, how dare you? Actually. Very appropriate timing because Katie Gallagher's on talking with tbirds at the very pullout everything. But yeah, I've totally been having that same thought of. This is the type of season that not only is dominated by one alliance, but also dominated by like an internal contingency within that alliance and not to say that it's impressive but I do in retrospect I if you're looking for back and forth I think this is a season where that is non existent. And I think also for the Tom Cody parallels I think are really apt because Taryn even makes the joke about. Well, cody was h week one and never stopped being a Joe Age, and I kind of feel like Tom was the leader from the Gecko and really never stopped being the leader all the way until the end, and so I think definitely with his dominance as a single player that's also something that's very interesting from the season. All right. Well, let's get into talking about the person who went out the door jiggling all the way this we let's talk about how we thought. Christmas Abbott was going to do preseason. So Liana I think Christmas was. For lack of a better term one of the big question marks of when this cast was revealed bowl from a why is she here angle and what is she going to do without a broken foot angle? How did you think that Miss Abbott was going to do preseason here on DVD twenty two all right. So first of all, before I get my prediction, I have to say that the cody small talk with Christmas segment maybe one of my favorite segments. It was it I because I could empathize with cody so bad and the fact that the editors did Christmas show dirty with the editing just really made me laugh with the dance and she's like trying to figure it out and remember it just standing there like Bob up and down when the hit song by Tina. Tar Us. Round Mary Proud Christmas anyway. Okay. I just had to save exits hilarious. So four my prediction for Christmas, I had her making the final three. Yes and I said that she would be not targeted because she's perceived as loyal, and then in parentheses I thought I might forget the fact that her son's name is loyal. So notified solve to save that. And then I, what did you exactly right to notify yourself? Her son's name is loyal. That's all. These Christie On remember to say this for son's name is loyal. The logic that you were thinking was she is loyal and her son's name is loyal. Therefore, she is very clearly loyal. Yeah. Did it yes. Then I wrote that she would. Be pulled into an alliance by Tyler at the final eight along with David. So that was my final three was tyler David and Christmas on, and they would make a deep run to the final three in Christmas would ultimately get cut a final three. I also most importantly mentioned that she does not sustain any major injuries. All right. True very true and her comic book name was the spirit of X. massive destruction. That's a callback to like when when it started watching brother back in two thousand three. I know. I think I remember looking the follow lunatic how's that goes guy we Christmas the just I came up with I mean that totally. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if you're a sustained major injury thing actually because like didn't you talk on the feeds many times about health like she still has repercussions from that injury her foot still hurts from it. Well. Yeah. But that again, that was from the previous injury Mike. She doesn't get any new ones. They're still covered in this. Format yeah, exactly pre existing condition. So admittedly, perhaps I am opinions about Christmas Abbott, we'll be into my own objective predictions. Christmas going pre jury maybe matron manifest my own thing her. I said that she will spread. Christmas, joy throughout her time Never Going Agro on Ensemble Oh Mike Oh my I was so I was so hopeful and I never would who would have thought it only took a month before that ended up happening use on. Christmas child. I said that she would get a punishment where she has to run around yelling something which we didn't really get. This was dirk space jam. The closest thing to like the I'm flying. Smell. I ice. The starbucks. Yelling. More subdued but I agree that that was probably the closest we got. The babies were crying but you know she's getting what she was handling and she'll bang pots and pans jokingly as an image to Josh. Upset the judge wasn't there to represent him and that she'll get put up as a pawn and sent home in the biggest move of the pre jury which ended up not happening but I also check with the Christmas steam, my superhero name for the stocking stuffer. I'm trying to decide what that comic would look like. I think we like soccer like I'm talking somebody like I'm punching them is that going for I think very simple lake. We talked about this last week with Mary like the Weird Art on the comics I think it's very obviously Christmas shoving a missile up some these ass thanks very much like on stuffing you and then like that, she is the stocking stuffer in that regard. Had her feet are covered with stockings because one foot still broken like in Oh yeah. I like that. Or maybe she reveals one stocking for another stalking Allah Roxie Andrew Away. From like that could be. This comment. Stocking reveal. Boy Well listen. We know that from where we saw with Tina Turner dance we know that Chris would not do lip sync for your. She'd be the Charlie is like do something Christmas? Me I'm I and she would like pick someone up like throw them through a wall. At that might be more accurate. Yes. Singer out of this cast actually. Gone. So we we have the of course Anita veto in like Kevin Kevin get a leg up him being actually having a drag persona. Now I would imagine that he has like. The most memory pull from like what have passed Queens done me borrow but. Actually. Really crush any song that solemn or sad. Handling Faith? And really he really looks like Danny Boy I. Know. That's exactly right. It's all about song choice on because I'm trying to think who else. and. So it would be very comedy Queen I feel. You. Know and so would like. His own wraps but I feel like he'd have to improvise in the middle. There'd be like Yo. That's it. That's My Lips Inc Yo. Dave was always coming up with cheers and rhythms and beats and stuff like that. So she is very musically inclined. So I don't know and that helps her I don't know if anyone's been watching. Zena on Tiktok, but she was doing Britney spears dances to like I think she could get it to. Yeah I saw that. I mean yeah maybe I. Mean speaking of Tiktok. If you saw certain Nicole Anthony Tiktok her lip synching skills are up to snuff as well done. That one cheer from. Bailey. So this was the Friday episode, the recap of Recap Wind Maili on a tricycle thing and the cheer that was like she's got one. She's got one moyle actually got one and that was super catchy. Using Matt. Daily. Life. I think a better question is who would be the worst? And why is it Nicole Frizzell? I was GONNA SAVE MEMPHIS MEMPHIS Thinking members because I think the issue is a unique shouldn't late not afraid to look a little foolish because I was what makes fun and Memphis seems like you'd be chew serious when. Nicole were definitely like trip over her own gown. She's Ramon Leon. Just GonNa Crash and then you all my. Trim that's her sign office. She's walking off the stage that's being illiterate only my God. Banji. Backwards and just repeats over. Nicole. Congratulations, congratulations. Her. Like dream board manifesting segments have also been really interesting. She's just trying to like will it into existence and not not the Willett Sisters It really spoke about this when I was on the Thursday recap of like, I think the show is just like. Well, I guess I guess Nicole might have a chance. We got to put some stuff here. Okay. We'll have her speak into existence will have some segments people being like am I making the same mistake? I made him baby sixteen between Khorasan Nicole. I mean. I. Think that that was certainly. My favorite version of Nicole the one that we've gotten over the last few episodes where she's a lot more cocky and she's a lot more. Self confident in. You. Know I just think that like when she braces that side of her a little bit more, it's like a new edge. It seems like almost a little bit more authentic to me is just a little bit more fun than I think what she typically gives us the deal I mean I think not only gets unique year but I feel like Nicole is like a low Ren Valentina. Were calculated in the way that she's being perceived by the television audience, you should be very sweet was actually not exactly like the best friend to people post show either so I think this is fascinating person. season. Of Her though. I'm just imagining all Valentina quotes and find a goal friends. Well, there's an opening the opening line that Valentine uses in her confessional in the all season is pretty much in some people's eyes. I truly am this congeniality and others I'm a snake but I know I'm both which Unical frames will quote. We are more paralleled than people realize and I. Like this doesn't work with my French Vanilla Fan. Quick. I'm trying to remember it. Did she wear a diaper at any point in time? Does this? Is that I. Don't know. Yeah, I've I feel like the way that Nicole talked about. The way that talked about Valentine right. Gosh I'm loving parallels works so well. Let's keep talking about you know some of these contestants from seasons past because we spoke about this, a bunch of this was a week of filler segments. For the first time in a long time and outright final four week spoken about before usually that you have the final five episode on like a Tuesday final gets condensed. It's usually one episode on a Wednesday or Thursday, and then we move on from there not this week. So we had plenty of chaff there between Nicole Sneezing seven times between cody being a very. Cognizant of his nose shape between. The clash of the Comic Sur which is. Without a doubt. The worst thing I have ever seen the produce I mean outside like the obviously heinous stuff like racism sexism homophobia like those actual eve rainbow low that. I had so many problems with it because they took like. Every single decision that they should've made with this challenge, they went the opposite direction of like they won't get to play. To watch it like this could be completely preordained. They're matching people up without even like being cognizant of WHO's on whose team now just sat there watching at the entire time saying. How did this? How did this get Greenland? What is happening with the most? Decision was par when on for so long like we even had Nicole asks the winner win, their two characters left into like we're going to see them fight anyways. Exactly, US we God. Damn it. We paid to animate this. Yeah, and it's just I was just in disbelief to your point like watching it grow on and on and on, and you know they do few luxury competitions on this show. So I was happy here was a luxury competition but I don't know I know when we heard about this on the feeds thought it going to be like they didn't succeed right? We're like the jury gets to come in and they'd like bet on a jury member and that's it is support no Nicole wins by happening to pick the right character who faced off in what I would say is a like basic level of photoshop skills were you take someone's arm you stretch it back and forth to simulate punching It I can't believe they kept going with the comics like did they the I know we gotta keep going back to this comic books while we just did it last week but we got even had them wear the same costumes from that competition where they laundered at all Liana I was just like I'm still astounded by the this competition I think the other thing too was that. Okay. So I like the Saturday morning updates. Okay. So what happened on on the Friday that I was covering was fees went down something happens right? Where someone ten thousand dollars. Okay. They were wearing their comic book costumes. It seemed to be something related to comic books, but Christmas was devastated. She betrayed Memphis. She stabbed him in the back. She didn't trust her gut. She didn't hit him and Taryn and I were speculating what could this be a? What could this be and to find out that Memphis wasn't there wasn't in no way involved in the competition and it was a terribly animated version of Memphis. She let town was just. Mind Blowing Electric Christmas what is wrong with you? Oh, it was a rough. Slightly more understandable if Memphis had anything to do with you outcome. was essentially a random number generator. which really only extended the whole second grade. And, that's what we thought. It was like, okay. Somehow they like to watch them compete or something or they were teammates in some way because like who would feel betrayed I mean Memphis had to have been there. Maybe he casts disappointing. St. Some fatherly disappointing stare Christmas or something like that. But yeah, it was. Animated. More. In a terrible way like I loved I think the first one I I remember seeing was Bailey versus the coal anthony and they didn't know job at all to like size them up appropriately. So the coal anthony looks like she's about twenty feet tall. Next to Bailey looks about four feet tall they're just like, yeah whatever fight and I I got on the house gets for relief trying to get invested in it. You know to have cody like screaming at the TV screen Enzo saying David Lost Him ten thousand dollars again because this is the only form of entertainment they probably had quite some time especially given this season but Wow Wow it is legitimately moments like this where you're like. All right I'M NOT GONNA. I'M NOT GONNA show this to anybody or let them know that I watched this particular episode of this show because this is not the big brother that I that I want people to see from a public perspective. This is the private big brother that we. We're like, yeah, we're what will muddle through it somehow, but not prominently show it off to our friends and family. Keep it out on our China Cabinet for visitors. Will this thing for the next subsequent season? Will he do this and then end game every single season? I. Hope so I know I know it's terrible but like it was so funny pin especially to like. So last week we did. You know they're old versus new Comic Book Characters A match battle my second idea was this it was bracket of them fighting each other. So then when the episode aired on Mike and I are messing what games are we gonNa do this week and I was like how do I make a game of what was essentially of game on the BNB already essentially called really I think for the first time we were predictive in nature and not just by writing our preseason predictions we actually figured out what they were going to do at a time. Nest. So here's a question. If we do see this segment comeback in the future are really see segments of the house just trying to build credibility with each other like, Hey, just like if we make it to the final four, like I'm going to draft you in the calmest. That's going to be like a jury management style, right? Like let's say I'm sorry I'm going to have to evict you this week, but you know what? I'm going to pick you in that comic competition at the Final Four. You'RE GONNA win me ten g's so be happy about that. That's another thing as well as Jerry ever have. No not only do they have no in they also get nothing out of it. There was also like alleged like. MEMPHIS ten, thousand dollars but no, it's more. So you're being like, well, don't worry. I'm going to pick your comic book to get me money get any more money from a kit further the game at your expense once more. And, that was why Christmas being so upset about it too like Memphis, one has no idea. This exists and to he wouldn't even care of unity did like I don't care. Before we move onto more funding games. We're GONNA take a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsors. Support for this podcast comes from cdw and trend micro and cdw we get the patch together security can leave gaps in protection. I catch things together all the time like this broken desk chair some duct tape goods orchestrated by cdw trend micro cloud one provides unified protection and better visibility across cloud services. It's all in one cloud security that can it's all. K- Gently used office furniture. 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But none of you made the cut here but I'm going to give you chewed that fall into this category and breached going decide you no one is going to be Filler Aka filler. There's nothing in it and one's going to be killer I love this. I WanNa see this all the time we're going through twenty twenty one seasons of big brother here. To go over some filler segments. Now defined a filler segment basically as any sort of intermediary segment on a show that does not have any strategy in it or any competition really anything to do with like the main threat of WHO's going up who's going home, etc. It's the just for fun stuff across twenty seasons of big brother. We have had a lot of it. So I'm excited to to get through some of these go through the history of big brother to find some of these very noteworthy segments. I will not say good or bad because that's what we're here to do. Yeah, I'm hoping to discover that. Big Brother has always been this way. Always talking about like the big brother of the past being better I don't think. That is not the case. All, right. Well, let's let's start here. So again, we need to be cumulative. We can sort of come up with our own assessment but again, for this category number one, which I call. The karate category I'm going to give to filler segments. Here we're GonNa you can decide one is killer Lovett one is filler hate it the two segments in the karate category in kicks himself in the head from big brother fourteen and Caleb Judy chops the button from Big Brother Sixteen which I will say was a write in from one Brendan Vegas and the rule here is a big brother alumni suggests something you have to put her in a game that's. Being. So, Liana at the outset here because I do have some clips that we can play if need, but in case anyone's. Memories are foggy on this, but do you have a filler and a killer between these two? So the Judy Chop segment I'm trying to remember because I feel like that was something that was mentioned like continuously. So are we talking this was specific clip when they were going to hit the reset button and judy chopped it. Let me. Let me play this and I apologize. You know this is not a video podcast. Listeners were not be able to experience the audio but not necessarily the video. But let's I'll play a little bit of this is cody and Caleb. This is indeed the week with the reset button I'd leave this at this point they've already hit it and they're just waiting more than time to tick down much like we all are this season, and so this is part of the segment in which Kalem, in cody decided to use their own brand of martial arts to make the button go faster. Four Day. Of this Clark and we have no idea what's going to happen. When it reaches zero. You think you're nice 'cause you're golden. Attached to you. Thank you. Cool Code. There is a way. That how power there's your judy have to be. The time. If this was the marcus we're going to start having this in and giving it a budget. Judy Charts. Lessen the amount of time. Oh That's what you. Want. Background. House Judy. Doing software slow Judy. Doing crazy. Judy Chops. This is ain't giving in. Also there, there's a lot more judy, fifty more seconds of each. I feel like the okay. Okay. Yes. I remember this the and Katie himself in the head is probably the shorter sweeter one. So I want to bring this up for anybody's memories. Was, I entertained by that. Does the sour taste of. Cowboy and. Cody unfortunately, a little bit now does that does that because I I remember being entertained by this at the time. But the one is also very classic. So that one is like hard and you know there's something. So lovable about that like the I. Remember the kick to the head is just is just such a cute little Ian Moment. That is really really horrible. So I don't know I'm torn. What do you think? You know not to comment on whether which one is which I have to say the Judy shots is into game segment because these people are strove award that they have to do something earlier on in the season, there's like more people around think you're probably a little bit more entertained. There's more stuff to do when the normal call of you use something to keep your yourself. Call Entertainment I. I'd which will spill or which ones killer killing me and I I guess I like the Ian One more for the sake of. It was kind of endearing in a way. Sewing. I guess adds to character which is. Seems less filler to me I. Guess I'm GonNa go with killer as well for the insight only because of the international value I don't know how much you guys followed the genius when it was really popular and it's podcasting but it was revealed in an interview, Andaman Colin I can't remember which and they talk to you about that in. Terry had made it big in south. Korea because the clip of him kicking himself in the head went viral in Korea. So essentially interior became like this. Sigh. And it is absolutely or guest these the reverse side from that perspective it's it's absolutely incredible. So we're just for having like worldwide appeal more. So than the Judy Chop, which also feels a appropriation. GonNa give it to adhere. Yeah I think that's definitely the right call. All right. Well, let's move into our second one. We're moving from karate into. I. Guess I called it like self violence. It's people getting injured from a certain perspective. We have we're continuing on the cody train here we have cody punching himself in the face in his sleep. And Jerry falling in the pool looking at a plane in big. Brother. Ted. So Liana what are your thoughts here? For me, this isn't close as much as it is hilarious to see cody punch himself in the face which I believe it was while he was sleeping if I am remembering that correctly and he just like and then he got confused because he thought someone else that punched him in the face. That's hilarious. But Jerry walking backwards to look at the plane and then falling in the pool is like an all time moment. So for me I have to give the killer to Jerry falling in the pool. Jerry following the pool is definitely the killer segment A. Question that I'd be most interested in was like, what was the? Insurance, deductible at the time like how were they? The seventy five year old man fell into a pool of water. I I wish that was like the inside we got the seats, really add to it, but I just think that segments so much stronger I do feel like big brothers sort of like if life alert became sky. Net Watches you twenty, four, seven I'm like, Oh, you've fallen. We'll. Now we know we've been watching you this whole time to help you. We know you can't get. That we're going to let you Li- there. Yeah Nigel. Any any other thoughts on cody sleep punching versus Jerry's pool falling. Cody sleep punching is. Funny in a more fleeting way. The hauling coal washing the plane I think that's just a classic and how can you can you? Killer I think as I read, it was Jerry to is hilarious. Very. Very few pool related shenanigans as well. You know I, did take out. The did not put in the JASE INNERTUBE infomercial from big brother seven that's probably another one. But there haven't been many like water based fillers, segments railway, and so I feel like Jerry is also in a class in his own for that The only thing I can think of is his. Fiori like peeing in the hot tub but I don't think that made it on this show no I think progressive Jewish peeing in the hot tub other candidates to make this show I can't remember if she remembers her I don't think so. That's more on the editors. Yeah I would say south. Well, let's let's keep sleeping because I have chew other sleeping related filler segments and they're both sleep talking filler segments. We have, of course, Corey from big brother eighteen game of Harry Potter but people reminded me on twitter that also Eric from big brother three had his own bout of sleep talking. So Kevin Nigel either one of you what what do you think killer or filler between these two sleep talkers So I think that we need corey his mission Harry Potter. It's funny. It's like a cultural reference, his sleep. Big Three just like the sheer amount of sleepwalking that was happening was like a little bit overwhelming. I am I. saw it. I think. The killer there was just so much going on the talking was so much that it's scared saw. Yeah. Killer. Serial killer the irony actually. Let me. Let me actually I have some here because I think some people might not remember. Eric. Eric was also what he was like the fourth boot. So we had some here a lot of is subtitled. So we'll. We'll. I'll try to play it loud enough that people can in here exact. Yeah. He gets a little A. Little intense in varying degrees of this talking. Let's give out Austin here. were. Chatter. My school. Work. My sleep talking is definitely starting to progress a little bit. Short. Look. I'm starting a little more comfortable in the house. I'm falling asleep. quaker I'm sleeping through the night, which means that my mind's going my dreams again a little more intense. Full. Force. Eric Sleep talking as certainly intensified I've heard a whistle in his sleep and so now it's time for singing and dancing. Dancing. These clearly a psycho for. Still. There's another mid but I think that's cutting it off on safely to is probably the perfect way to segment. The kissing snakes I forgot about that I remember thinking that line was so funny. Because they have this mental image of snakes kissing, which is to me. I also loved I wish we could've seen on camera Josh. Josh. Recounted him snapping fingers and going now it's time for singing and dancing. To me so obviously Eric's. Gone. Really early, he doesn't have the best personality but his personality most shines in that bed apparently because those two moments and for those who remember is obviously one the sleep talking to second is that he said Lisa's favorite word weather amazing out one night when he goes high and she like. Beautiful thing is keeping all looking back is the John like the dumbest thing Love language only thing i. Is. Exactly Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. I think I think to go to the other clip for a second that was didn't Corey who said fearless bat for Firmer that was clay. Clay. Okay Yeah. Okay. I know look come on. The fertilised Bat. Yeah I think I have to probably give killer. For for all of the reasons that we discussed to because yeah the Harry Potter thing is funny but there's there's so much more there with the Eric Clip and so I think that that has to be the killer for me. There are some interesting similarities though because I do think you know what you're describing to. To, Eric I would say that you know Corey is also a person who did not have many noteworthy characteristics of the plane where it's like he loves Christmas slash she loves Nicole like the game of Harry Potter theme was like Wow. This kind of generic guy actually has something weird about him out so much more and so both of those sort of have these in common. But I agree and as a frequent sleep talker myself I think I'm more in line with the Eric stuff than the corey stuff. So I have to like from a personal perspective go with them there as well but is it corey words sleep talking with Nicole Nevada next to him and cuddling her sing talk title ix talking about kissing snakes that might be a better moment altogether. Mother I'm going to have to give her. Like how how bad you have to be you wouldn't the best thing about you is your sleep talking. That's the most interesting thing about your personality is your. Unconscious just you wait I get wild. All right. So let's move on here to some more. House guest centric segments we have a couple of houseguests have had multiple filler segments about them throughout their season. Let's start with J. C. from season twenty, one of the more modern. Characters here we of course have the infamous yachties segment in what she thinks that hiatus is pronounced hottest and Jaycees cooking segment Q. Fatten up the house guests with his beef sauce and his Spaghetti and all that Nigel who gets the killer here out of the two Jaycees segments. So I, think it is a little tough because both moments. I think are often referenced A. PODCAST that I think they're both memorable but I think I have to give it to try to fatten up the other houseguests because it was just like so weird and bizarre. I guess technically you could almost call it strategy. Does that actually make an affiliate? Technically not be I mean. He's filling them up. So maybe it is actually liberal. That outweighs any strategy there. Yeah. Okay. To me is better because it has infiltrated lexicon. Rated anymore. So I think that's the better segment. Actually have a white quirky keep track of all the shows that we're watching and we have a few that we've taken a pause on and instead of writing hiatus we have your shoes. Oh my gosh there's broken onto the whiteboard as well. Yeah that's a good argument because I think also in my daily life view like you and I will say Yada. We're going. All Now. Lisa Donahue's favorite word by the way. If someone says, that's gonNA cry in bed. Making out. The other thing too and I remember this from last week when I was putting together the big brother Comex but jaycees comic is the yacht us. I don't know exactly what that means per se but but yeah, I'm trying to let me see if I can pull up his catchphrase right now but anyway so that's that's something I think to take into consideration. Yeah I don't know I'm personally going to give it to the fattening up because that's more of like a montage based filler segment whereas there are some that are. Like Oh, look at all these things. This person does sorta like with what we just heard with Eric. It's like actually with Eric and Corey with the sleep talking Eric. Was the more periodic one in corey was the more like flash in the PAN and I'm literally going with the one that helps pans than the flash in the pan in plus the stuff that Jaycee made looked so Vile. Like like a camp counselor preparation meal waiting for Christopher Maloney to come out from American summer. It's just like the beat the hotdogs sticky out of the beef sauce is an image that will forever be stuck with me. Then so grows. The oddest catchphrase was putting crime on hiatus, which is stupid because like why would you not say Yada so again, I don't know too repetitive that we're going to have to end up with Thai here because I think Yada for me is is the killer. With tie I don't know who breaks the tie here. We see we'll put an on goddess for now and then we'll come up with a tiebreaker and maybe later on to to push or the other. Let's. Let's go back further to another person who's personality absolutely lit up big brother, and of course, I'm talking about Jen Johnson from Danny Brianna original season the to jen segments I have here are. freaking out over her memory walls photo and the Gen drinking game at several houseguests take part in where every time she said the billboard is they had to take a drink. Shoot. I was immediately going to give it to the picture one because that's so so so funny but I forgot about the drinking game segment, which is hilarious I love making drinking games. This is going to sound horrible and Super Mean I love making drinking games around other people when they. Like. UH, there's nothing more beautiful Matt. Shoot, shoot I don't know Kevin, what do you think? So. You'll drinking games, I'm. LIKE SCAR Rangers engaged. Why Sixteen remember a lot of people are like this election is early count so Funder Games for the debates and I remember getting so drunk because this may not like trump does acts, and of course, he did a billion times and it just throughout everywhere that. Dreams to me are terrifying. I think drinking is fun. I'd actually put. Genius. Agenda member all his shirt filler. Segments Omar. Her crying over picture is pretty iconic and that's definitely my tillerson. Yeah I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go killer as well with that one because I think that because I was also I believe in a week one because it was the debut of the memory while photos and I think we had no idea who jen was at that point I think that is the quintessential introduction you need to Jen Johnson, is just her being like that is the worst picture I've ever seen. I look absolutely ugly Danny Looks Great. Kale looks why do I look right in her like being histrionics read says, all you need to know about what you're about to see from Jan Johnson so just serving the microcosm of her I'm going to give to the memory wall personally Nigel. What about you I think I completely agree it's it's just such a phenomenal way to be introduced to her as a character and I think that that's probably one of my favorite single scenes. In all of big brother history it's like, how do you not fall in love with this woman who has an meltdown because her photos like not quite to her liking interesting. Mall thing but she's like I'm on a television show and people will see this one picture of me. She can't handle ever. Cut to it all the time they're gonNA cut. You know the fact that she needs such a big deal out of their own draws more attention to it. It's like the streisand effect rate but. Secondary Part that people forget is that no two weeks later she becomes H H because she understand how all works and. She gets her her. Pictures and she complains about those pictures also. Yes, I. Remember that because I remember the memory wall, she held her hand up right to like block it. So no one could ever see it, and then when she got those pictures, she like turned him down. So No, one ever see that boy genius to prevent us from ever seeing those Otas. Yeah. All right. It's definitely the photos. My God. My God was right here listen to love drinking games and like I can imagine having a drinking game in the Big Brother House around Jen was hysterical but I mean it will forever be an imprint much like Jen's pictures on the memory wall. Let's let's go out on the scope here. Let's turn the camera lens a bit further going from single houseguests to single seasons. Of these two, two segments from celebrity big brother Cue, which is the Filler, and which is the killer. Tom Green as the cereal box Osprey, the bird or Kato Kaylin needs some colon help Liana. Nah. Stomach Hertie or you know like? Yeah that one. So that's like the lion that sticks with me Tom Green was hilarious. I think if I did have to pick a Tom Green moment the one where he's like I, know this isn't a segment that was like Natalie, would you like some sandwiches? We stand Biz it was. Yeah. It was the net I that the move in when he's now we have a great array of sandwiches and I think that might be report was when Taymor Braxton was like eating a bunch of grapes because like how are the grapes Taymor Mar she just like nearly gags on the graves Which is really ironic given like the relationship that they're going to have over the course of the season. So. It's tough I. Mean I probably have to give it to the to the Kato Kaylin segment just because of the clip, her me ability. Whereas like the Tom Green one was funny but I still think I'll pick the sandwiches over the offs right one. So you know Nigel what do you think? These are these are both filler for me I. People who. Tom Green do not connect for me at all. I never understood the hype around him. I don't know what it was. I just was not a fan. So when he everyone was. Talking about the cereal segment, I was just like infuriated that he was getting so much attention I want to go back to people like team Mar I want to go back to law hand I don't need any of this coverage. And I guess technically I might give it to Kato Kaelin just because I'm obviously triggered by talking about. Your Kaelin to to make it. Max. Out. But I really hope Deena low hand being catfish is also in the conversation. Now. So. Wasn't. Getting catfish that's to me that's that's maybe one of the best. Of all time and like the big brother Phantom, we gotta find this guy we gotta find this guy. Oh Gosh Yeah, I forgot. Wow what a fun season that was well listen it's sort of like the grass is always greener. I think at the time like this is a very trashy season because I was like you know low low and Natalie and Taymor screaming each other Kato Kaylin begging on the table like have you ever taken an acting class? Stole much mess in that season. I mean not to include the mess that Kaelin made in the bathroom after Ricky Williams put his hands on him and like used his Rakia energy I believe. ME. I got a rewatch that I was thinking of something to get the taste of big brother twenty two out of my mouth and I think could be celebrity big brother to. Win a wins Hungary and is voted out and came. Almost, literally dancing on his greatest, he's walking out the front door and she still manages to get his vote is. Now. Remember, that time Greenhouse House did not have good history with Ricky Williams ricky was like, Hey, do this joke that's not funny. It's just it just really got an his nerves also when the mood was was apparently a house guest but not houseguests. Oh my God you guys. This is mounting evidence to rewatch this season. I really wanted the first comment on the Ricky Williams Tom Green issue because I. Because I haven't seen comic and like I get it like you can shoes and I wasn't the Big Brother House you know I'll. Never. Vote for person who was mean to me over. Funding one time. Dare you. Yeah I. Guess. That's the opposite then Ricky Nicole essentially the opposite of Ricky Williams with Enzo. Congratulations you've earned the award for making me Piss my pants is the opposite of Ricky Williams telling Tom Green, not funny. All right. Let's move on. Harass you to stay on the Tom. Green note because I have filler segments of the musical variety we have, of course, Tom Green's hit coffee is a lot of fun. And from the grapevine, not just in singing pizza and I feel like this is a slam dunk I wanted to at least give. A. Little Bit of play but I got imagine we gotta give it to say here right Yeah, I think. You know not holds a very special place in my heart. It was when we were doing. So you think you can podcast. So it's very, very memorable to me I because of the way that. So you think you can podcast played out. You never know when we were going to get a call up. So I know not very very well, and the pizza song was such a great great moment of that season that we were playing all. The time and it kept coming up. So yeah, I mean, I definitely have to to give it to the pizza here although the coffee is a lot of fun. Sure coffees fun. But Pizza Man, the Justin doing the pizza song can't go wrong I. You know I really remember all of the talk around the pizza song cannot for the life of me remember that soon, I cannot remember any of the words but I remember it being really enjoy. All I'll while you guys practice, I'll look it up if you WanNa if you WanNa talk through coffees a lot well, actually now united because I know that it's in Tom Green thought. What did Tom Green Doodoo? Issue that I thought that everybody was cheating so much praise and. Tom Green and you know like sometimes when you you just don't agree it only like riles you more than happens to all the time when washing repulsed. Goes overrated I'm sorry. She was a robot. Kevin. Come on on replace that blame on the person 'cause it's everybody else's reaction that some problems but I want to do it with Tom Green. So I have no taxes. Yeah. Oh my I know that feeling so so well, and you like you you, you know that they're allowed to have their feelings and feel positively about that person but still you're like over rated talking you suck in your phrasing but it's not fair. Yeah I gotta I gotTA. Living in a BIZARRO. World. What else agree with me here? Yes. Yes. Look sends the Palette. With some pizza just play a bit of Justin's pizza the remix specifically that big brother did. Some pizza. easson. Yard walks. Up Cigarettes. Needs. Who Eats? Being. Contracted to sing backup to this. All right because central casting we're looking for are three women to come in and Sing Pizza about ten times. I believe. This is actually one of the rare segments that they played on the eviction show. They do that sometimes I think they did that actually with Jerry falling into the pool. To have people laugh back at it. But yeah, they actually played the remix everyone was like going crazy over the fact that they actually remixed pizza. Song. Well now, when there was only like one like summary Episode Reich's. Weird. So yeah. All right. Next up next category. I call. Winged creatures, we have Ali is afraid of birds from big brother ten verses Holly. Can't get enough of butterflies from big brother Eighteen Kevin. What have you got? So when you tweeted about your favorite. Out, of all the in the birds. All the birds is like the quintessential A. Low level character already. Deal so All in the birds because to me as a special place in my heart. I'm happy that you gave that clips credit I. Think Though for me the the butterfly clip is just so funny. It's so so so funny and now knowing more about pollock healthy or a and and following his path like huts, his origin story man or not land on me beautiful I have to give that one even though I think they're both. I think something important to remember about the police segment is that. That's when he was kind of going into his like losing spiral and we were. A number of weeks like candling really getting frustrated at things seemed to be stocking. He was just like commanding everything. So I think that a wasn't just funny but it was also kind of satisfying to see him this spin out a little bit because he was like he was going to be the cody Riley we were like I remember the discussion is polly California one of the best players to ever play big brother right learn. Having at the time then he cries into pies and cries over a butterfly and we're like, oh I think I might have to give it to holly as well. Just because I think a key cog in that scene, not allow people talk about is the James Element where James is the one who sitting there in like has to react polly just being completely. Like absolutely bananas freaking out over a butterfly lazing on him and James being like. Yep. Yep. That's that love butterflies to man as opposed to everyone else. Unfortunately understand only laughing at always fear of birthday. This was a tough one. I would say these are arguably both killers segments, but I think if the more killer one is polly in my opinion. Right I appreciate Ali one. Really. Burns. Zoe Ziemba Kiss. You just. You hit the presentation of her is like he's just the small things become. technic Molly's birds were the friendship bracelets. So he's not for the birds anytime soon. All. Right. This next duo. I'm calling H H Room Mockery. So we have a from a big brother twelve where Brittany and Matt Ware Rachel Rachel's Hair extensions and make fun of her and Big Brother Eighteen where Victor Paul and Corey Make Fun of Nicole's very small high school graduating class Liana. Do you have a horse race? The ugly clip is like low key funny because they're just trashing on ugly and it's really really funny. In, retrospect knowing that that Victor is not only living there but for. Now, he's here. He's. He's an ugly football coach now. And that unlike that's so that's so funny but the the mocking Rachel with the extensions and it's Britney and it's mad and. Reagan's there. I think. Right. So that's just that's iconic. Feels rude to not make that one, the killer segment original shows up in the middle of the mocking that and. How they just started like. Doing it as an order to show you. She just like buys into that I think that's what really ties it. Also has the infamous. Britney. Griffin obviously, I can't do for audio purposes but going. Yeah and they add the sound the off. Like whatever that sound is she's back and forth like, Oh, we're praising you like you know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery right? Like totally buys into it. A great class. It's tough. I'm GONNA throw a bone here for for the clip just. Like, very like Improv to me right of like they've this is true. What is true and it just reminded me of just like classic riffing with your friends of like, okay. If there's a graduating class of one, you do a play. Someone gets sick you play a soccer game and you have to forfeit like I just love all of the the ways they spun things out and it also proved like I was going to include a clip of Victor as the Eagle asking James for for the money but I feel like a Put so much eighteen on here but it just reminded me of how. Funny Victor was. For. Now, I don't know agree football coach Victor is the same as big brother eighteen victor but man, that was a fun segment. Pointing other victory ended up moving there really hines the overall quality of manages. All right. Our final one this is the title match because these arguably might be the two best segments squaring off against each other and what I'd like to call. Do People really think this we have a RENAE and timezones versus Ravens list of accomplishments. Up The tough one, it's a really really tough one. This is a tough one. The the Rennie timezones clip is clus. ICONIC. The Raven clip has raven in it. Which? She is just been continuously made fun of so much and I can't deny even though it's more recent her impact. On big, brother and and our perception I mean she is the mastermind but impacted than her kneecaps. That's right. Her inverted spine Louis. It's got to be ready. I'm sorry. Okay I. Feel like for me. It's gotta be. It's gotta be. Returning. Also, actually timezones was a recent conversation of ours. In California and he moved to DC of course, and I told him it was like so like. Like eight seven central right and he was like I didn't know what that meant. I don't know. That's what they say. The phrase like Oh eight, seven, seven, central. What time is it on a wall it's going to be on on seven central you just added on. Like the central time, but eight is prime time. That's when. The central type, then there's like the time it comes on. Yeah. timezones. Yeah, it's got up. It's so tough. I don't know I've been really like honestly since I've put these together I've been going back and forth 'cause like reading so great about it. She's flabbergasted the idea of like some fun of me like stop it Dan but I do love granted Xiaodi Dr. Paul. But I do love Paul of all people being the One to like summarized the accomplishments because this is, this is when Raven reveals that she is in Mensa. Her mom has a five minute fifty second mile she was struck by lightning inverted spine. She qualified for the Olympics like there is so much and I also think context king here and I do remember at the time all of us were like finally. I think the ravens expose party had been prominently. In full feature at that point, people were just like waiting for the show to make it happen and when they did it was it was all at once again rough kneecap syndrome was not included in this so So, tough. I'm going to give it to Raven I'm GONNA give it to Raven just so I can finally get my diploma with my GPA and dance from her. Yeah. I think I'm. GonNa have to agree with you in that. That season film really unbearable to watch at the time and so gang that segment. Finally calling her out. I. Think it was. Abi satisfying that you're like, Oh, my God, we we're finally addressing this is it's spicing it up a little bit. So I think I'll go with. Yeah there is nothing more satisfying than like something that you know and you're like the casuals need to see this, they need to see this and finally the editors give you their do and and with so much so much wonderful content. Yeah. That's a great point. So yeah, that's that's going to do it for filler killer, but I think it's been a nice trip. Through BB history and I think to your point Leon reminder of how sometimes these sort of Chaffetz segments go all the way back to big brother three granted they are more few and far between back then. But for all the complaints we have about filler segments we can look back on how many of them were just so damn iconic across twenty years of big brother. And that we still talk about to this day you know what I and we may have forgotten about the fact that they were siblings love and big brother. But Jen crying in front of her picture Nana we will remember. Okay. So let's move on to the next game that we are going to play here. So this was submitted by the fabulous Keta who came up with a Mad Gab game that we are going to play here. So. We've been talking about Julie's awkward quotes all season, and so Kadim came up with challenge for. Hate. Okay Tummy Hertie. Colon Hertie Yeah. In. So Kadim came up with a challenge for us, and so we are actually all GonNa work together here. So I have not looked at the answers, the way that that hate us, but it together has been fabulous. So I I can't see the answers. But what they've done is take twitter eleven Julie Chen quotes and replace them with a Mad Gab. So what is a Mad Gab? That's a string of words that sound similar to, for example, bud diverse sounds like but I okay but diverse but I oh yes. So our job is to decipher what the original quotes were. So these are all Julie Chen moonves squad. So hopefully that helps. You at least narrow it a little bit. Now, as Kadima's wants to do, there is a Meta puzzle where one syllable has been deleted and it is our goal to not only identify the quote, but also also to identify the missing syllable. So this is going to be hard or I'm just going to say it from the outside onset. So if we can't identify missing syllable, I can stick that in there I do have the list it's blacked out right now but I can figure that out but it will reveal something that is new to Julie this season but familiar to big brother players and fans. So we have an example here. Where Mike do you wanna go ahead and read the example for us so that we can get a sense of what we're what we're in for. Sure. So phonetically, it's red heck. Dion. Pec. Ted. Yes. Which stands for expect the unexpected where the e sound is what was in the blank Blank packed Dion -pected expect the unexpected, right? Okay. So we're looking for the missing sound essentially it's supposed to be pronounced like you have a cold. Yes. Kadim did give us some tips. So if we have trouble hearing the quote slurred the words like you're drunk. Read small chunks at a time or emphasize different syllables. So. Like I said, we're all GonNa work together here because these are very challenging if there's one or struggling to get I, think we can skip it and maybe come back to it but I think we will be able to identify some of these very bizarre Julie Chen quotes that she said throughout this and do we think that there are officially done because I talked about this on Thursday recap that I don't know if we'll have time for it during the finale. So I'm happy that that she brought it back again, we think what was it be just to be right is going to be the final Julie Chen Ism of the season. I'm so curious because is it going to be after the Confetti is falling right and then is that when she's GonNa hit us with the line. That would probably let me let me clarify always living truth in love with her final data. I don't think we're going to see that quote today but you never know. Okay. So let's start things off. So I'm going to go ahead and read this first one for you guys. And you have it in front of you but also remember listening also can be more important sometimes reading it in sort of make things a little bit more complicated. Alright. So I'M GONNA I'm GonNa try to read this. So I know the answer to puzzle one because I was looking. So I'm not gonNA guess. All right but I don't know the answers to the rest of them. Okay. I'm telling do. This sea wall to them. I M Ller weezer higher. Day phone in Paly. Amir idol as. Let's okay. Let's look. Let's Assume. Julie's messages. Okay let's go back. Let's say at the beginning. Okay. Okay. I'm telling you Hey, that's the first part of the phrase I'm telling you. Yeah. Okay. This Sequel Walt. Tooth Alma Antler Weezer hi there. Louise yes. Legal Defense as their. Day phone 'em Paly Dave on him. Bailey. Now. Their nicknames of day. Photo. Arrays deleon. Comic now. Phone Yeah Alright. So okay. So what do we have so far? I'm telling you wrangler. Film Louise. Dave and Bailey. Amir idol lay sis am I right ladies yes has. No Redeeming myself from the last time I was on. No that's close enough. That's close enough. All right. So the quote is I'm telling you the sequel to Thelma and Louise Wright there, Dave and Bailey am I right ladies. God I forgot about that I just reading it out of context makes even weirder that we heard here. Say This I know. Okay mic. Do you WanNa take a shot at reading this next one? Do I of course I do all right here. Rideau. Fatty is eggs sacked Lee wide deep up lick photo did shoe packing they've de Mir's egg. All right. Let's figure this. Okay. So thaddeus exact. Exactly this. Is this. Is exactly thaddeus exactly. Why Deep Lick photo? Oh the that is why they voted you back in the public as other public but you back in fifteen years ago I always, the final one right is that what she said to K. 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Let's skip. Didn't. Let's skip nights trip aleve action. Okay Eviction Aleve? Action. Credit. Twins for. For now like with the houseguests was, let's let's Kipton night strip. Let's skip the nights are APP a live? Action Credit. Pitch. Wins for now. Four now okay. So let's keep something. Oh, grand yeah. Let's let's. Let's keep like the triple victimised secret, right. Asked. 'cause that's what she said at the beginning before the Don revealed between us. Now let's keep a secret US let's Tripoli fiction a secret between. Between us for now I, think is what it is so. So see the red. Yeah okay. Okay Yeah. A secret. Let's keep tonight's. A nights triple of vision a cigarette. This pig Latin, but weirder. This is very odd barnyard speak. With a few more. Let's go. Wait to Kelsen do we earth at? The OS orphans free minute third ella fishing right now. Okay we got gotTA break this down. Let's start with that first and. Wait to. Kelsen. Wait. Wait to call us in like way to call us in. The Colts Someone. Called the earth that. Doing players do you. Do we. Oh, do you hear that? So. Wait listen you hear that. I don't even know this. I feel like there was. A man this is not my program. I can't hear my programming in my ear but. The OSEA orphans cream minute third L. fishing right to now. Right now. L.. Ella Fishing L. officiant third ella fishing. Third. Third. Phone those Oh. Yeah. Your your. Your fans. Oh. Those are your fan screaming right now or whatever. It was And it was awkward because it was silent. She was it was like, do you hear that or something? Yeah. Do you hear that does the Osa or scream minute third fishing rights? Are Your fans? Yes, Ya. Those are your fans screaming something right now. Your fans are are. Are. Okay can you read what the quote Leslie? Let me look. Okay. So wait take a listen. Do you hear that? Those are your fans screaming at the television right now so Shing. Ella Vision Elephant. officiant efficient. That's incredibly awkward. Stop listen you hear nothing those are your fans screaming. That's so awkward at the time when Julie did it like Julie Girl what. Those only week three we didn't even know what was to come. Your earliest. The warning sign. All right. Here's here's puzzle nine. Okay. Well, these are to these are two sounds knew. That Ali Herb oth member US sledge enter eat do. Their Rene get there they're in a sentence, a headman Houston better dude. Are you are. View. That do you herb oath Bertha member member of the Oh man they're. Fledge remembers the `member `member `member the fledge enter. member. Remember this has gotta make for terrible five cows as. member. Just saying random sounds. Okay. So okay. So what do we have? We have both both right member no members members. Remember the whole. Yeah. You're you're you're both member member of like urban. Fledging dairy legendary, much fledging, Terry. duos yes. Oh. So he's never. Yeah. Okay. Members of legendary Duos I think right is what that says. Is this truly was talking to cody in Memphis when they entered the house? Yeah like that. Who Do Obvio-? Agu. It was something like you guys are both members of legendary duos. Yeah. She asked the question who is better and of course, they're going to say the ones that always. Better who's in bed to WHO's The duo? duos. So both of them are is the same as the. WHO's the better deal? Okay. So I don't know the middle part, but I guess it would be like something with the. Rene Anglade the renegades there? And ahead and Workman Hitman. Okay. All right. Let's see. I think we're close enough. Yes, the two of you were both members of legendary duos, the renegades, and the Hitman who's the better do oh, that was the quote. Okay. We got it. We figured it out. Okay. So Two more. We got this. All right. I'll of Thud you'll of cod, within aim lick grissom Hawkeye unit. I is focused on the. I. This sounds like something about God. What was? Another you love God with the name like Christmas how could you not? Yes. Yes. GRISSOM. How how so h? No, no at us. Oh Okay so within with an aim like Grit psomas Hawk I do not. The name like Grissom, it's how could you not? All right final one, which one. Had peoper stay char moon of link. INVIS-. Yeah. Abby, Charlie Moon Vet. Route Charlotte of this. Okay so that would be also what s sound as well. Yeah. Okay. So the final answer to the Meta puzzle clue is the Double Cross From Phil because it was do ub Phil Eat. Double. Philly cross yeah it's gotta be. Double Cross. Which apparently Julie has been wearing a lovely necklace all season with two crosses on it so It was GONNA be shady when they're like this is something that a lot of people know about what Julie Chen found. I. Was like Oh God Be. True We will visit the island Godwin. you'll have pod. I love. I. Law. You'll love God I love God. And? Busy. I'll rescue. hoops. Grassy soups. God Man Okay well, I think we did a great job guys working together to figure that out that was very hard on and it was only like slightly less sensical than what we usually do. So I think it was actually a game that was perfect for all of us back. Effective as the committee this time you know we burn through one small hiccup the no one really cares about and then we. End Yeah there early, Hiccup no one remembers. It's fine. Well, finish things off. Of course, we've been going to our guest to present charity or call is that they would like to highlight outside of the Big Brother House during this season. So guys returned it onto you. During thing, you want to bring light to either singular or multiple. You know. There's so many. I think. On the election. Appropriate charity to. Push for so. We can be completed her project again. A lot of great work for lgbtq youth. So I think they're always organizations have direct resources to interested in it Yeah and so let's see. Let's get the link for that 'cause I. Know We've plugged that before but yeah, and then Trevor Project is one that has. We talked about so much for Rupaul drag race has been involved with drag race and especially after the whole share pines all that stuff. But yeah. So it's just the Trevor Project DOT org. And of course, there's a big fancy donut button right at the top. Of. Their also even up besides donating opportunity to actually like get involved as well from voluntary perspective whether it's. A parting with lgbtq plus youth or you know helping the phones or just just getting involved with the community in general. So even if you. Go there you your voice certainly can so be short to you know like Kevin said, there's lot of important stuff going on right now especially around the next couple of weeks. But there are issues that will last beyond November third in a manner of speaking, and so it's always good sort of called back to that because you know the big brother season his ending soon but there is plenty more stuff to be talking about in the world out there to beautifully. Guys thank you so much for coming on getting getting involved in a big brother style. Especially, look you know the the end of the season is probably not what everyone wished it could be, but you were the guests that we wish we could have each and every week. It's so we're so happy to have the two of you back to talk through all things brother and just say nonsensical words over and over again in a row to see it makes. People wanted to catch up on. You know what you're doing on social media or any stuff you're doing I suppose in the world how can people find you out there? You can find me on Instagram at Nigel speed on my twitter bio. Link is a little harder to spell out on the PODCAST, but the link is on my instagram invited. and. Since isn't audio podcasts. Handsome, you could also follow him. narcissist or Asian are for short on twitter. Doing Plug I have is that my political? Comedy Troupe that we do a lot of acting. Impersonation. Is Actually doing the trump biden debate parody. And so that's coming out on Amazon very soon in following this platform for more information will be available once that comes out. All. Right. Yeah please nobody I. If you go onto Kevin's Instagram, please tell him. He's funny. Do not be a Ricky Williams. A. Liana, what do you have going on now as we start to around the corner on Big Brother Yeah. So I, you can find me on twitter out. Liana. A p.. In addition to wrapping up all of the stuff for big brother who are doing the massing our coverage and we took a week off because the show took a week off. For the world series. So we didn't record an episode this week but hopefully, if the world series doesn't go to game seven and then we will be back to talk about group C. which are full new contestants that we have not yet. The Lips is part of Group C, which is just a big old payroll lips. So we'll see how that goes but yeah you and I are having so much fun with the Massingir and it's definitely a podcast you where you don't have to watch the show if you don't want. There are like I. Want to say there are actually get singers on this season but I think the the ratio of good singers to not great singers are higher than they've ever been before. which is very surprising like I would think it'd be the opposite that as the show went forward and the the talent pool gets smaller and smaller, but it seems like they got some really good people this time around. Yeah. It's tough competition, which is something I wouldn't say for a show where others the seahorse singing. You know but we are baby alien puppeteer like. are where we are. and. You can, of course, follow me at him Mike Bloom typing and check out my exit interview that I did with Christmas where she certainly have thoughts I think it's an extension of the Julie Chen exit interview terms of how Christmas thinks about herself and her competition. So be sure to give that a read and they will be interviews at some point with the final three going on as well at some point next week also doing exit pressboard the amazing race which finished its second episode had A. Very Fun Recap with rob and just and just gang together this weekend with Corey Cool two-time amazing racer for the tar pits really have a lot of fun and weird stuff to talk about from the the world of the amazing race. So if you're into CBS reality, you're looking for something new to get you through the recipe twenty twenty heavily recommend that, and of course, over on Poe, show recaps doing all things a lost and star Trek, and I cannot believe we are finally reaching the final week. The plan right now for the next week is we're GONNA make it oh. Gee, WE'RE GONNA make it Leon and myself. At the moment, we're gonNA take a look back and maybe some of the other stuff we talked about preseason including our our. Our superlatives do one more casual corner to see what people really think about this season we do some other games as well. So there's still time if people want to send in game for us to do on our finale show next week, then you can email us j. jp be NBA gmail.com or tweet US using the Hashtag. BNB as well but yeah, this is going to it's going to cap off. Street months of doing the BNB a witch, it's weird to think about all that time has passed, but I'm excited to see what's to come next week. We only get two episodes. It's still three hours of big brother left that we have to fill with big brother according to Leon I think you and I will have a very great time breaking down. No matter what happens. I mean. Have I wanted to hit fast forward on the season yes. So I'm looking forward to the result I WANNA know who wins I want to know how this whole thing concludes and I think capping it off with with with our family Mike you and I breaking everything down I. Think we'll be fun. You say you WANNA hit fast bowler but like when you hit fast forward too much that's when you get the triple of exit happening you're like, no I went too far. Doesn't like okay. Where's the thirty second rewind but note bath exactly. So against send us any games if you want, you've got one week left to do it. Special. 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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Big Brother 21 Weeks 11-13 with Peridiam

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RHAP B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Big Brother 21 Weeks 11-13 with Peridiam

"Some game right off sounds law as long as the R H Peyton day a write off. I can sell you the our ASE Hi everybody looking to the RHA. TBN Be for the final three weeks of Big Brother One am one my name is Mike Bloom still sweeping up some confetti and watermelon shaw from the end of big brother twenty-one along thirteen weeks but we are finally here and if you days afterwards as well truly digest all the stuff that has gone down. I have assembled a fantastic panel to break down the very end of the season personally bringing somebody who you've heard in your get your buds every Saturday breaking down big brother twenty-one Liana Boris Liana how are you. I'm good. No it's funny. I was actually at the grocery store the other day and the or out of watermelon and just oh my Gosh Jackson was here like now that I know he's out of the house who's like he came and he bought all the watermelon with his half a million dollar winnings. That was my wreaking havoc on Kroger's across the country Buddy Watch out. We are so excited to have our guest here. This is the first summer having him on for big brother proper. He was on survivor earlier on in edge of extinction. I would call him the best survivor and big brother Youtuber bird there is out there his handle is parade welcome back to the BNB how you doing thank you so much Mike for letting me on this podcast inviting me on on for my this is my third time now with HP second time with the I was GONNA quickly. Say Bouncing off of your watermelon store Ileana. I I don't remember the last time I've had watermelon or ever be so relevant in my day to day week to week living situation just having the word and just picturing it seemed Jackson eat them on the live feeds nonstop so actually went out when I was at the grocery store about three weeks ago and I bought myself a watermelon which I don't really understand why it was just there I was walking around in the aisle and there was a watermelon right there so I'm going to buy that and I'm GonNa crack it open mostly because at the time that was when that was when things were going well l. for that for some the cliff Nicole Jackson I was really on. I was behind Jackson's okay with him. I was actually phone pretty good about considering where we started but then I don't know what I forgot about the watermelon it's just been sitting there and then all of a sudden it became really messy at the final five and then the next thing you know I have not I had just had neglected the watermelon altogether and it's been sitting there on my counter top for about a month now and it's really like the story of Big Brother Twenty one for me. Were just was a roller coaster emotion all centered on one little watermelon and that's it yeah I was GonNa say that's actually a pretty good analogy especially for the the game too. It was like okay. You're feeling really good and it's like oh no. I was looking out of the other day I was like I wonder what it looked like just like a sledgehammer to it for the heck of it. I don't know this led chamber could represent. I don't know certain comments that Julie Chen might use right and just smash things open completely the play where you make a similar face to Ah Jackson Dan when he walked out of the Big Brother House five hundred thousand dollars richer put at what cost you got a gallagher it up also though you might just want to throw the whole thing away. I don't know how long watermelons last but I don't know anything about them so it's GonNa cool is this good and my wife was like I think it's still oh good right but she has no idea either and even like watermelon so I don't know okay. It says it says the shelf life watermelon this pretty long about three to four weeks when it's when picked off the vine they got along well. This is also a mini watermelon smaller different. It's like it's like it's what zing embodies the baby's bought watermelon watermelon yeah. That's so cute. I don't know I don't know considering our canonizing but I don't know what that's GonNa mean. Oh yeah that's actually very true. I don't think you want to get involved in these sort of zing by comparison so yeah maybe just toss. It would probably be the safest option so a lot has happened. Even since we were on last with as Caribbeam said last time we were on we were looking down the barrel of a really intriguing final five though Nicole and cliff I do no wrong. They were riding high in fact Leon and I got to not only meet sit next to each other. During what I would say is probably one of the most energetic addic- epic big brother episodes ever in terms of how live at the vote was up until that point and we watch things kind of just slowly roll off countertop from then on culminating in a win from Jackson making with very belated congratulations him holly for second place and of course coal anthony in one of the most I would say overwhelming fan favorite votes to the point where Julie Chen evening quantifies it. I'm really intrigued to get all of our thoughts about the season especially if she podium since I know you're arranging big brother twenty one season and review. Let me just throw out a question and get all of your responses to is big brother twenty-one the weirdest modern season big brother I would say personally I was thinking back. I would modern big brother or consider. Maybe like sixteen onward. Give or take and I would say yeah. I think it is. I just think the whole dichotomy of the jury versus the poster how it's almost split right at the middle middle with day forty four and then just there's just a lot of mixed emotions here where I think I know I'm feeling and then all of a sudden somebody else walks into the room and I'm like I don't know about this anymore and it just as a weird mess of all kinds of emotional Mike. I'm happy that make one but also like Ooh but I'm really not that happy sometimes and I'm like I love Nicole. I'm glad that she's received support and then all of a sudden like ooh but she won she won part two almost think she probably would have been the winner. I think she taking it but anyway lawn mixed emotions. I think it might be the weirdest I think that's a really good way to describe it in terms of the mixed emotions because especially with Jackson and seeing the reaction to Jackson's win and of course with all of the sort of racial comments that were discussed at the finale and of course happened during the season just so much controversy where I feel so torn where I can appreciate Jackson's game play but also he's done a lot out of horrible things and you have like crazy characters throughout this whole season but I'm still sort of torn about so yeah maybe that translates into weirdest artist. The other answer I was GonNa give actually was sixteen but that's only because the battle of the block was so stupid and I don't know to me that makes it weird but but yeah I think really the dichotomy between all of the different events that happened on this season has to make it weird right. It was all over the place. It feels like yeah. That's the thing is that actually on the note about of lock. I would say that almost the consistency of the bowel the block makes it less weird because big brother twenty one the first three weeks Kim combat like okay. This makes sense. We're GONNA end when there are four people laughed and then someone's GonNa come back into the game and we waited a couple of weeks okay. There's a field trip. Okay okay sure this will sort of be like a way to vote people who don't like right so next week must be something right no okay. I guess we're done with the twist we what is prank thank week. What is this person do? Why are we voting on this okay? When's the double eviction okay? It's not happening to later and then we get extended weeks of the vinyl. Live haven't find four there was just so much on stuff going on. I can't say I'm particularly mad at all because I think it provided some entertaining moments but I mean you're both of your points. Look no further than the art of Jackson Mickey. which was you know you pretty you know universally reviled the first month of the game gets separated with holly leave from the rest of his alliance and become a bit of an underdog because he's against someone like Christie who the audience is turning against and joining a Nicole who people like so he becomes a bit of a rude mutable person then he turns against them and ends up getting rid uplift Nicole and he becomes hated again by the time is blocking that house especially bringing stuff like Eliana? I know we got your opinions on the finale with regards to them addressing not even just accidents comments but allow the general itchiness of that pre Jerry pretty me as someone who has studied. I mean you just did to videos about finale in terms of best and worst jerry speeches. What did you make of the way this? This finale was struck in particular wanted to quickly mention what you were talking about with. The whole structure was really unique for this season and I think it really started once. I'd say the post story started. My theory was that all of this this whole bowl just the domino effect. I think started with when Jack got a victim. I I think the producers looser kind of happy they kind of I mean this is just all tinfoil theory. I don't even know anything about this but I imagine given Jack was easily the most controversial person and I think probably the biggest Heynen thorn in their side for the producers. My theory is that they might have just said you know. Maybe we don't do a battle back. I don't know if they produce this so far ahead that day for sure or had a battle back locked in a battle back after the first four. That's usually what it's been pretty pretty unique that they have like everyone sort of been like maybe in the last few years and we're like no more battle bax pleased like it's just a little too much last year and big brother twenties didn't work like maybe they're listening or maybe in this case is just Jack was so bad that he like inspired inspired them to not do something that I have not worked in the first place and then it just sort of created a weird series of events where America's field trip was strange because it felt very reactionary if like a slap on the wrist and it was more like okay. Let's punish the people that we don't like but what if it's a cast of really likable people where we don't want anyone if you know hypothetically not that that's realistic but what if like what if it's a bunch of people at all we really want to see wanting this to happen so they're punishing them. Maybe this like a reaction and they're not letting they're not giving Jackie chance to get back and at the same time earlier punishing them with this weird twist and they sort of a really cool and the twist for a while they cooled down it seemed and like I think based on my memory and then on the prankster showed up which is like a a a weaker version of the packer from last year ultimately and then like the whole ending comp the whole schedule was pretty bizarre with the final four final three just I couldn't predict it and actually preferred it that way. I liked being unpredictable in that sense because I think that big brother has become very predictable in the modern era at least and maybe just in general going all the way back to the earlier seasons you can kind of see there's very much a pattern and the same like every week the houseguests in this season on the live feeds. They're just like I know exactly they can already tell what cops coming and they already know like most of the best strategies for every single comp so it was kind of refreshing to be like they're on the life is like Wednesday saddleback and they're all talking about. Everybody know battle back okay well. This has got to come up when it's out. There's this like why is there. This endurance at the final four that's unusual and so for me is is a super fan. I was totally it was sort of expect the unexpected I was expecting the expected and then it totally superseded tatum expectations which is very unusual for the last few years of big brother know you're expected to expect the unexpected I believe the chicken Georgia's jockeying for the Coupe de dookie or not and then as far as the finale went yeah that was tom view a little bit. I was half and half like I understood that there were there was good that they were responding into a lot of the criticism that were happening in the pre jerry particularly in the pre Jerry and I liked that I liked that there was emphasis on that to an extent. I still think that they're very rush the finales I don't like it even though I was a little bit bored watching Mickey and Holly in the final two because I felt like it was a foregone conclusion. I thought it was going to win. If that was the case and initially it was going back and forth that final week in my mind like I think hall he's got I think he's a he's got it and then by the finale night I was like I think Mickey has this. I Ah actually told my wife I guess the votes and I got them right so I was happy with that although also predictable but ultimately I think it. I think that the finales need just a little bit more time for some reason I think that they need to like part. Two out of it. They already part one. which was that was good and that's what I was hoping hoping they would do because I think there was in the Big Brother Twenty? It's always been in the family they start with part one or maybe I'm confusing they kick off art one usually when the recap of the the the recap episode on the recast started it but then yeah they pretty much do one center and I totally agree I totally Ho- sign putting parts one one an two in the Sunday up in might make you know like in this case for instance physically gives fans no hope for an old going to the end since you would know what Jackson and holly going par-three but that being said wouldn't have Julie Chen essentially doing hurry up offense sprout a you know an hour and a half period yeah. I think think that having it I just I'm looking at the older seasons a lot where it's a little bit more. There's more time to digest what's going on and I enjoy watching being the final to sort of. I Dunno mingle for a little bit more being able to explain their games a little bit more. I don't know of Hollywood benefit more from that if it would have made the final two more interesting I thought it was alright like I thought that their Jerry Cuny performances is Russia's. They were thought they actually both did pretty well. I wasn't too. I was like trying to see what would I put them in the top five or bottom financing now I wouldn't put them in either. I think they're both somewhere in the middle or even upper half of as far as overall performances go and a lot of did some meat to what they were saying. I think actually Hawley was able to and from my from where I was standing. I was like I think I don't think she played that as good of a game and she was saying but I was totally buying what she was saying. I was almost like maybe I would have voted for or then but yeah just the finale was okay for me. I'd say it was like it was progress kind of felt like on some levels it was good. I liked not having having Parwana nate. I wish I was out of two. Maybe we'll just jump right to part three. I wish there was more time for the final two to talk more and then as far as the the mini reunion with the preachers it definitely yeah the spotlight preachers which is unique it usually doesn't they don't get as much time I think but I wish there was more time to talk about that stuff and less time on it. Just felt really rushed. The whole thing felt very rush to me and I wish I know there was probably getting like five six seven minutes to talk talk about but I kind of wanted more wanted a little bit more of a conversation going and just one off liners back and I think in comparison listen to previous years. It definitely felt less rushed to me but that being said I mean I completely co-sign the the idea of wanting more time with the final a two just because I always feel like now that we've moved to this live I mean I guess it's been several years now since big brother eleven but this live jury questioning format I feel like is never ver- is satisfying as giving the players a little bit more time to really truly explain their games so yeah I mean I would agree with you on that point. I would say looking at Jackson in Holly Apartments. I agree that I think they both did a pretty solid job. I've very quickly rising all the survivor that I've been watching that like final speeches ages slash jury performances or one of the most intriguing thing for me to watch any reality show and I feel like I mean the past couple of years and you had people like Paul in Tyler make pretty glaring hiring errors in their jury despite the Games that they might be playing. It didn't really seem to be the case here. That being said you know holly was reticent to tell me that she she doesn't really believe anything really changed anybody's minds in that mullet but I will say when it comes to trying to separate yourself from the person that everyone is looking with the entire hire time. I thought she created an okay narrative. I do agree that. I think you know maybe maybe it wasn't exactly rush felt Russia's because Julie giving us time limits by being like Oh holly only have thirty seconds or oh okay yeah. Oh David sorry you can't talk about you. Know implicit bias anymore. We had to go to this question. Yeah I think a part of it was probably a Hollywood talking a lot so for me I was I think I was caught off guard by what she was saying. Because I was interested in hearing more and then it was lamenting that this was the new modern it's been around for the last ten years and that she doesn't have more time 'cause I was interested to see where she was going with a lot of it because I think she was doing she was hitting a lot of the notes that I was noticing when I was looking at all the best approaches to the jury and how these final two and big brother have been handling especially since big brother eleven with the modern format moving forward forward and I noticed that a lot of the best ones tend to have like a couple of really strong quixote they just hook the jury with one or two lines that really like slammed down the gavel Alec this is is why you should vote for me and I thought Hollywood doing a pretty good job at presenting herself and building her case up with this euphemisms even the sniper and she explained her what she was strong with the social game and creating relationships early on it's a kind of checks a Lotta linked up buzzwords that I think a lot of juries do like to hear I wish she probably she's still tried to maintain connection with Mickey. It was a little too strong. She could have done more to go. Make is clearly getting shaken up. As the Cuny it was going on and he was trying his best to to stay as composers he was when he went into it but I think he was getting rattled kept going and I really really wanted her and I was like a young put on twitter was like go for the jugular holly like you need a crush and put your foot your foot on his throat and just get the five hundred thousand dollars. Make them move and then tomorrow you can apologize to to him. I mean I don't know what's going to happen with them in the future but you walk out with five hundred thousand dollars richer that's that's what she wants. I thought Holly did I was more impressed with hers. I'm probably because I had low expectations yeah. I wish I kind of wish one more time. She kept going on going on now. She kept going on and I waste Brehm. I told you we had one minute. During our we recorded yeah it was really I was intrigued by her speech. I wish they'd kept going and it was just interesting to hear a little aggravating here. Julie aren't hall you. GotTa Stop Okay. Stop like we're going to the next person. It's like all right no actually Julie in that moment when she was you're talking about okay so we have. We don't have any time left. Please wrap it up but it felt like she was spending so much time telling them they didn't have time it reminded me of happily from parks and recreation during indicate where I have an update on your time remaining and you have ten seconds remaining on your time that is left and right now. We have an update on your time. The update is you have no time actually takes takes the five to ten seconds yeah well. We can certainly get into a lot of stuff that happened not only in the Finale Anneli but during the final five onwards as well as we started here with our various segments and games. Let's start by finishing off our pre season season prediction only five houseguests left and waited here to talk about how Leon and I thought they would do. We actually have comic Book Names Bill Off of now compare. I don't think any of them measured up to Hashtag horse but you know what I manage dream the letter with Tommy. How did you think Hami was going to do seem to be pretty high on him similar yeah so mike sitting next to each other at the live show whispered over it was like spoiler alert? Tommy was my winter pick so spoiler alert Tommy as I winner pick what I wrote about him that he would be most likely to throw calms early will run the game behind the scenes and we'll strongly benefit from his relationship with Christie and for his bb comic. I had the tiny dancer in parentheses. Hold me closer. Oh no well I think that he nick would probably have the opposite message imparted to him and in that conversation Liana whispered that Tommy was his her winner. I was backed me to the second big brother season in a row on and I have had the same winner pig who needs to get some for Big Brother Twenty we had Tyler Oh nice looking okay track record. I think we've done better. It's a smaller sample size. I think we've done better with big big brother survivor but so I said the Tommy was going to win at least or competition where he drops into a split or a toe tap and celebration uh-huh. I said his fans will be the most annoying on twitter due to his Broadway following a said Hill succeed in strategy big Italian meals to make everyone fat and I said he'd freak out the most when Jeff Slash Rachel slash polls slash slash whoever comes into the house guest or host a competition and his superhero we're here. Oh name was either Broadway Bronco or Tommy the Mommy that just based on rhyming or do you think that was motivated by something. Oh I think it was remember he wanted. He wanted to be the house. That was the strategy going in okay yeah. Well imagine him in like a Strega. No now like you know like a head wrapped happen like early gray hair. I could see it happening. I see all right so it's your call which one of our two winner was the more accurate when Tommy also also that when I was looking at the winner picks I also had Tommy is going in so you guys is Irma similar company here and also picked Tyler from Big Brother Twenty so we are all on the same page potty go I will say that I was a little bit more obsessed zest with with LAWA's. I liked what you said. You pretty much said exactly what I was thinking if I was to do what if I was taking part in writing pre jury stuff I are pre-season stuff. I think I would have written exactly what you said. His his comic was the Flash Mobster which sounded pretty similar to what you had and yeah. I'M GONNA give it to you Liana. It's all right. Let's move on to the returning did not come through in a battle back did come through in a buyback. He was able to survive our oldest house guests. This is Dan Mr Cliff hog the hog father also with the fear. I had him making the jury. I said he would be nominated the first week but he survived since people feel they could use him as a pawn. I said he'd wipe out a bunch during competitions a said he'd be the most game to make pardons in the diary room and I said he'd make the top three for America's favorite player and a superhero name was oil baron. You wrote title lot for cliff. Did you just feel like there was so much to work with their yeah I think I think that I think he feels a certain archetype. uh-huh in big brother that you know you have a lot of work with in terms of like they're going to do a lot with him no matter how long he last and I I don't know I just got a certain impression per minute and appears people did as well considering that they have them around for as long as they did yeah yeah he definitely stood out as amongst this cast. I think so there's definitely work with okay so I was a little no less optimistic about cliffs chances so I actually had jury. I said that he will be a fan favourite for the few weeks. He's on the show. We'll talk talk about wanting to win competitions but won't be able to win. Competitions will be in alliance with lovie. I don't know why I thought that but I'm happy about that one and then. DD comic name was boss Hog because I'm creative turning him into a weird like furry combination with groundhog yeah that was so weird. I didn't really understand the connections. It says if you see his shadow run was that on on the comic back that was actually that was the line on that weird does that have to do with the groundhog as Shannon. No I know I know that but I just didn't know if there's any other association with cliff specifically also his last name is two GS and the only just one g obviously it's crown entitlement better for you include Jeez there. They didn't even put a second gene the NOPE. It's just one g looking at it anyway. It's interesting because technically cliff breath was both pre jetty and poster. That's exactly you guys kind of divided and conquered without one. You did get that. He was in an alliance with lovie which was right. He was in the top three America's favorite player. It was very it was very light. I think he might have been at his most light up until he got busted with these cliff notes so oh early on he was definitely fan favorite. I would think I'm going to give it to Mike in this. I think you've made more I agree with more of what you had to say there and he didn't go quite the distance almost almost one the season so you didn't win competitions. I don't think he was going to be able to so it'll be very interesting to see both how all passing and the contestants look at the older man archetype now that someone is sort of I guess broken the curse and like deer point not even May Afar but you know was a couple moves away from nearly winning the game you know I feel like seven Kevin Brother. One thousand nine hundred certainly went the distance. I don't know if he necessarily had the wherewithal actually get the win in at the end but I wonder if that's GonNa change you know if the knock on wood today CASS older people or people say let's get this person out quickly because they might pull it out at the end. It might be less trusting 'cause I was his key. His keep focal point that strategy was you've got to trust me. I'm the old guy and everyone did and it costs a lot but I mean he was also affected preacher so he's back because he e said that competition but yeah he was evicted preachers. It's just like remember them. Oh all right well. Let's move on to our Lord and Savior our Queen Nicole Anthony Leon. How did you think that okay so I said technical would make the jury and said that she will channel Rockstar on the feeds she will also do arts and crafts projects in parenthesis assist Pegasus drawings? She will get voted out sixth place. I don't know why I was so specific had super super specific. You went very like Mike you know a super weird and then her. BB Comic was the Pegasus early so I had I was less bullish on on four or less Unicorn. I had her going out and read jury. Actually wrote literally goes out in the in the Bronx spot in a similar manner so totally quirky underestimated girl who just happens to get nominated and maybe due to other people are one other person on the block that can be more useful than her gets it almost like what when cliff ended up getting victory over her exact reasoning I said Gee be part of a few worke antics that weird out the other houseguests said she'd wear at least he's one costume that she that incorporates in her regular wardrobe and she does a lot of singing on the feeds and her superhero name is high now the toddler Tamer Tamer all 'cause she's a kindergarten. Teacher is a preschool AK. Yes okay that makes sense yeah. It was interesting interesting called. A nickel losses was be comic name. Maybe I'm thinking for Instagram Davis Strong Island from strong island on it so you might Batman not too far off. I would probably give I'm going to give this one to Liana simply because i Nicole went much further and she I wouldn't say she was much of a Rockstar type She didn't really have any costumes that she incorporated into her outfits. I don't think she did arts and crafts. That was one for big things that was like one of the biggest things don't all our wacky arts and crafts now swimming around with those so I'm GonNa give it to the on a two one yeah I I don't I remember not feeling hi Nicole going into the season. I don't think a lot of people did I mean draft right and I think that that that was a feeling I think that was shared by by a lot of people so it's actually really interesting to see her trajectory over the course of the season and especially to see her become a fan favourite and of course you know when America's the player in the end. It's kind of a really cool almost success story. I guess Nicole in the preseason. I didn't have very high sort of like Dr like the Bronco and I mean I'm looking at jokers update. She was at the bottom of the poll in the preseason to one point so I don't think a lot of us like a lot of people didn't have a a highly at that. I don't think it was I remember she said like she was not a big fan of bullying but then she was like my number one favorite Paul I think that's also the the lock my parents it's been saying like we Nicole turn out to be like the complete opposite personality of that but I feel like when you're that and that's one of only if you sound from someone you're like you're a little unhinged. I don't know how you'll do in the house and then she told the story she told the story I think postseason I don't actually was founded way more charming because I in your sandwich better and I was like wow that's how it works. Isn't it yeah it was she wouldn't show or parents like wouldn't tell her what's in the bag or something and she still doesn't know what's in the bags. I'm really hoping that Teheran Keren can really get to the bottom of that. 'cause I really WanNa know that's the that's the one thing we need right. Let's move on to you are runner up here Holly Allen Thirty one wyoming and see how she did so I had holly making finale. I said that Hollywood get nominated at least three times. I said she did a segment about ranch facts where she talked about her upbringing. I said she'd win at least one H H. I said that she'd be the first lever current job when the season it remains to be seen her superhero name was ranch hand parentheses double entendre Andrea because you'll also get covered in ranch during a salad inspired Endurance Hgh oh man that's a that actually wait didn't didn't that happened happen because of cliffs the tossing salad before the wife joke. Oh why husband bowl catching. They got salad tossed right did she. She Give Ranch Board on my I don't think so she could have been ranch sauce. The close the most accurate prediction all season okay so I had holly making jury I said that she will form an alliance with cat and Christie that alliance will be completely ineffective will will go in a fiction because she's a good boring consensus boot and I had her. BB comic name as the Safari Cevantes. I think I'm going to give it to we had a really strong point. The right other ran out of the gate. Mike Mike I'm GONNA give it to you for just you Patriot going into the finale which is pretty good she she was there she she was a bit of an insignificant character throughout at the season so I could have seen her going out on double diction and some alternate universe she maybe even could've I guess if say Tommy on the double at the final six and Jackson won the veto so maybe either yeah I'm GonNa give it to to Mike with this. One all right. It's all tied up as we move into the one and only Jackson in Mickey Martin DB winner obviously neither mind nor Leon nor ready oems winner but Liana. How did you feel Jackson would do take sorry I had Jackson making the jury I said that he will be Winston two point Oh and his intro packages and will kiss his gun? He will let paranoiac get to him in his attempts to build a big Alliance Aka see Devon for BBC sixteen will be a very emotional player and make a lot of emotional decisions and his bb comic name is hip to be square so Liana. You and I are on such the same page because I also had him going Jerry. I also wrote he gets the Winston Award or most intense stare and pitching skills. I said he gets nominated for being perceived as physical even though he hasn't actually won anything and I said a superhero name would be tracks in but it's just him running. I also imagine him an attract suit also for some reason in this comic so between the two of you guys are pretty similar. This is really coming down to the wire here. We both thought Jackson was so similar to Winston I mean he did he did he did a gun in his intro. Oh you know like he was going to be that guy. I feel like he was more parent as like who Winston was once after episode whereas in the preseason Winston I think I just remember everyone was so blindsided by all that making it was a little bit more predictable to me. He kind of played what I thought he would do and he. He didn't really deter too much. You definitely wouldn't say wasn't unless he's definitely wasn't emotional. He had some moments where his emotional but I feel like he was definitely more stone cold than most of the people this season so Kosh on just cut the point now offer something Dr Jackson Mickey Give One to Jackson won one Jackson the awesome let's do it. I'll take Jackson you want McGee B Jackson and I'll take the Mickey Point here congratulations to the both of us everybody well it kind of makes sense also like we had the same winter pick kind of in lockstep so well so. I think this is a fair room. We've been we've been divergent on survivors is it just seems to be our trend that survivor wrong completely separate pages over totally in the same book Airway uh-huh. Didn't we both have Morgan as our winner for yes there. was that one time that we have more. I think that was sort of our curse that we're like okay. We're done being on the same page now. We're going completely different directions this morning. She was actually a pretty underrated. I remember I made a joke okay. One of my videos the week before she got voted out where I made my the last by used in the video the week before her elimination was of Morgan from getting being voted out and I ended the video with that because I was joking about her getting Jacob gave her the advantage for the information and she voted out I I joked about it and then all of a sudden shut voted out the next week and I was just like oh my gosh curse all Morgan dollars y out. She'll so man man before we move onto more fun game. We're GONNA take a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsors and we are back. Let's keep on keeping on okay so I think it was really fun to see everybody's trajectories over the course of the season and so we're going to sort sort of stick in a similar theme I WanNa talk about the final part of h competition and the little videos of the jury during this time so I know most people were focused on what was being said in the video. I was just watching weird stuff. That was happening in the background. So Oh i WanNa talk about. Just you know some of the things that were. Maybe a little behind the scenes if you will during these videos so the way this is is GonNa work is I'm going to essentially ask a question that has a numerical answer and we'll just go back and forth and we'll do it where you each like pick a number so honor system and then whoever is closest without going over just whoever's closest. We'll get tiebreaker exactly all right so let's just go ahead and dig right into this so this is all about hats video so how many pictures of Brett were behind cat in her video so yeah so each of you can think of a number and then Mike when you're ready. We'll start with you all right. I'm going to say they feel like there. Were three things behind her but I don't think Brett was all the pictures I'm pretty sure one of them was like a heart that she'd she'd made him one of those jury instagram things and not the head that she ripped off somebody. I can't remember at this point. I'm going to say there was. I'm GONNA say there. Were two pretty. What do you think okay so we allow the same answer to? If that's what you put down okay okay I was thinking too. I remember seeing him doing his jury or when he was on the block and he was doing that weird speech where he started yelling. I remember seeing that. I don't know if there was two more. I'm was one of the left. I think there was one on the right so I think I'm going to stick with two who I don't remember what the second one was but I do remember seeing him doing that weird yell where he was standing up during his speech so we're starting off much like holly versus Jackson in an in this competition. You both get correct so yes. There were two pictures of Brett and Mike you're right. The other one was the heart I like cat. Hearts Brett sign that was in the background okay so let's move on Jack's video so I talked about this on the finale podcast but I was obsessed obsessed with the fact that production was like blowing wind at Jeff and it wasn't in a sexy way Jason Momoa type way no it was like sideways ways blowing his hair in front of his face. which I thought was so bizarre so the question here is how many times did Jack push hair out of his face? During hiring is like a twenty second video okay so I was thinking like what would you do because I do. Recall Jacks just is being hidden in a forest and just not having a fan blow the right way just like so it's just a weird too because like you put him in at a windy forest. Why those forests are the most Lindy they're basically hurricanes can be formed their unifrance trains? Thanks Okay Pretty. What do you think boy? I'll say three yeah. I'm a bit more bullish. I'M GONNA go with five times Dong the hair Tussin okay so pretty on the three was correct so you get a point ain't here blooming the money I did. I did think it was much more because I just remember him constantly doing it apparently so oh the next question is about Tommy's video so this was super weird because he wasn't writing a letter which the just like staring off into the distance him weirdly fantasizing about the season making some uncomfortable facial expressions so that was very odd production choice of this question is about what percent of the time was Tommy's is closed as he fantasized sized about the season during this video so again so anywhere glance a percent of the amount of time so I'll give you guys a second about okay. Mikey will kick this off all right. I'M GONNA go with Miko with mercy thirty percents. I feel like Tommy's someone who used dramatic is not going to have his eyes close most time he wants to be big inexpressive so I'm going to be a bit conservative and say his is closed only thirty percent. I think so if it's whoever's closer without going over or just too close okay. I'm GonNa say twenty. I I think it might be even less even though he's definitely somebody I remember seeing that I was just like what is what is this is. I think that was what encouraged me to start tweeting tweet out that I would rather get evicted pre jury than have to do this. I I'd have to make the finale in the final three or go pre jury because I cannot be in this. These videos does so. I'm going to say twenty five percent but I think it could very well be higher. Would you rather lose and have to be a part of these weird jury things would you rather win and not have to uh-huh oh boy. I will go in third if they'd asked. I'll I'll go to UH. That's sweet smart of you. You definitely missed it so you. You don't have these weird videos so mike you work closer. It was actually thirty six percent of the time yes so so you're both pretty close so given the range that is that might be the most useless trivia I will ever know. I'm very I'm very happy to know. I mean you know there are times. When when I'm putting together games right take a step back what ridiculousness am I doing right now me sitting on my phone timing? Tommy's Oh Ikhlas is okay so the oil yeah I wanted this. I appreciate you doing that. This is stuff that I'm here for all right. Let's move onto the next question which is also pretty silly. This is about Cisse's video. How many any chickens were behind this in her video so I do watch this multiple times to try to figure it out because sometimes the chickens go in and out of frame so I picked the frame when there were the most chicken that I would see? I don't know if that helps or hurts. The what was the maximum capacity of chickens on the screen right were they different chickens or whether the same chicken and it just happened to be walking back there. They were definitely different so this is independent distinct. Thanks so in general how many distinct chickens walked behind system the background. I think that's what I want to know that we're not counting her. As a know. Your costume does not count also I feel horrible that everyone else do wearing regular clothes and she had to Kim chicken it back. It's all they know about her all right so we'll I'll start with you. What do you think the chickens and the details I appreciate that she was the only one there in the costume? It was the most memorable thing she going for. I think I would say there. Were Gosh I. I'll say six okay Mike. What do you think I'm going to try to count my or there on screen? I'm going to go with four okay so there were thirteen so is like four when I I watched it four four or five or something like that I barely remember to bring any says the chickens in three different areas of her videos so there's like some in the foreground around some sort of middle and like some way in the background like by the abandoned cabin or whatever she was sitting in front of but yeah there were thirteen so this point goes to teen eighteen that must've been really fun stock footage that someone had to fines ends of for this for sure okay so our next question is about Christie's video how many inflatable pool toys boys are in the background of her video. So Mike we will start with you are well. I depending on the same numbers chickens check into might be like twenty-five Christie is that she was doing very nice. Yoko old post which is interesting is like like you forget how she was sort of like this. This very boutique owner I mean the season and that's regret loss amongst all the other Christie stuff that happened manifest aside. I'm municipal. I'll say four I'll say five five pool toys behind I yeah she's doing her yoga. Okay pretty money aside legit. I don't remember there being any I remember there. She didn't like a campground. I think doing the Yoga Pool Toy Gosh so mike. Would you see said I five. Is it five all right. I'll just say I'm going to say four go lower okay so there was only one so pretty and you get the point here. I originally went in thinking all do how many are in the background because I also all I remembered was the tent as I was watching I was is that a giant inflatable killer whale you you know like one of the ones that the handles that you can ride in the pool so as soon as I saw that I was like well that's super weird. So of course I have to make question okay so congratulations pretty Amir the winner of this quiz on the other ones. I had tried to come up with ones for like Nick Super Boring. He was just sitting in front of a campfires. There is nothing exciting there. Oh surprise surprise did not have an exciting video that was forcing them to bring out its personnel. Exactly the most interesting thing I could come up with was how many pockets next shirt half it has one so dumb. It's like okay never mind. I won't everybody'll just do a subset of people muscle essel like that at cliffs. was I mean it's it's really interesting. They brought the memory wall stuff but I kind of felt that everyone else was like this happened to me was like my picture was below average on the on the memory wall like eating it along the game. Even some conditions like wore glasses or something or centuries contract dragged lasted like basically what you're making people play guests who instead of talking about what you did at the gave you know it's an unfortunate yeah which was so silly because he had a lot of game related things that he did so yeah very very odd much more than a thirteen chickens yeah oh man that was uh funny all right so I know the last time you were here. You surprised us with a game and we are living up chicken. George won thirteen chicken relatives than we are expected to hunt expect a year. I believe you have brought that game back for us. Big Brother Style I did yes of course of course I had so much fun doing it. Last time I arrive edge of extinction. I tried to put together. This family feud you'd fast money game and I thought it was really good actually really enjoyed it a lot. I think you guys so. I thought you know what let's do it again. Let's do it one more time and that happened. Actually before the season ended now we have one with the season over so we have cumulative opinion the Agra opinion of all of my youtube channel followers that responded and I went ahead. I asked on my Youtube Channel for People's answers to questions about big brother twenty one. I pulled their answers took the first one hundred that responded bonded over about about nine hundred total right now and I decided to try and put them into this family feud fast money game so I can explain the rules or shy explain the rules I yearn for those that are uninitiated that are we're too busy checking out big brother all summer that they environ watching their ABC family game night and Harvey on the family so basically in the family feud fast money game or shall we say the big brother fast spewed. This is going to have five questions asked you to both Mike and Liana separately there one is GonNa step away from the microphone on headphones or you don't have enough to do. I'M GONNA ask five questions to each of them. Their objective is to try to find the most popular answer that was given to me from my youtube follower so for example. If I said what who is your favorite player this season they're trying to figure out who was my youtube channel favorite player season. They want to figure out the number one and eventually number two two answers that will accrue points or their answers the pick the more popular answers they'll get more points. The objective is to get to two hundred total points between both both Michelina and last time we did this was the edge of extinction and you guys narrowly beat the game you were very. I don't know if you guys remember you. Were really close to not beating it. Do you remember how close it was down to like the last question and we barely got over the edge. It did yeah it was the last it question the last answer you guys out of two hundred points at two hundred and three points so that was I was I was I I remember thinking like I have no idea this could be completely broken. This game could be completely imbalanced and it'll be like incredibly hard to find like incredible guys to win or it could be like the easiest the thing in the world. I don't know both happy to see that it was sort of the best of both worlds. I think it was pretty difficult but also good enough that you guys you guys excelled that image to beat it so we'll soon happens this time. It was GONNA say I don't have high hopes for the version. We'll see I'm here to play well. I'll step away I so I'll lightly on ago because I think I think I went first last time suggested me in the chat when you're ready to have me back. I'M GONNA go listen to my h headphones dance around all right all right so Liana with Mike offstage. I'm going to ask you five questions. We'll have about about twenty seconds the timing for the most part if you can't think of an answer would be incredibly surprised by you can say pass and if you can come up with two hundred points after the both of you go. You'll get that confetti on your shoulders. All right thing are open twenty seconds on the proverbial Clark Doc all right so question number one is going to be named the player Youtube said was their favourite for big brother's gone okay name. The Big Brother twenty-one twist Youtube said was their favourite the field trip other than Jackson. Tell me the player Youtube said Ed played the best game this season Tommy Okay on a scale from one to ten giving the score youtube rated big brother twenty-one sex lastly named the Big Brother Twenty one player Youtube believes is most likely to return for an all-star to all right right all right. Let's let's bring Mike Back. I guess see us. This is again recreate some of the magic from survivor There's there's no matter well so you can stick around for this since you're near the questions and all that sounds good okay so Mike Leon I just went. We'll reveal. Both you guys his answers. After you both go so ready to go mike we're going to give you about twenty five seconds on the clock proverbial clock half a net. I'm ready to go all right so question number one name the player Youtube said was their favourite for big brother. twenty-one Nicole need other answer cliff okay name the big brother twenty-one twist that Youtube said was their favorite okay other than Jackson. Tell tell me the player Youtube said played the best game this season army in other answer Nicole okay on a scale from one the ten Gimme the score at a Youtube rated big brother twenty one six in other answer seven last question a name the Big Brother Twenty player Youtube believes is most likely to return for aid all-stars to Christie all right there you go. I've answered a lot of us. I'm GonNa wants to know what it is drinking the same Kool. Apparently I think it was the same aim flavor that Paul made in the house. lets us an adjective to describe this tall. No can you describe a noun she that she said physical or unless you see she used a noun to describe him. I loved her and she was like a noun. As a person placer thing bang great jobs says okay so we can sort of just tabulate the points as we go along with these questions and I'll reveal both your answers for each question one through five I do the math and I figured out that well we'll go through. These question and I'll let you know what my thoughts. I was trying to make sure that the game was broken or impossible to win at the same time. I didn't WanNa make it so easy that you guys would win by like I dunno question too so okay so for question number one an wise named the player Youtube said was their favor for big brother twenty-one Eliana you said Nicole and Mike did you send a call or is it and I thought I said Yeah. I figured that would be the case so Nicole was in fact the number one. The answer not surprised she was worth forty one points which is an insane amount mathematically. You WanNa get about forty points for a question so you've already the everything else. After this is gravy cliff was the number three answer was worth twelve points what you no not number two Kenny was number one two three six and I was GonNa ask do you think would be number two if it wasn't Nicole or cliff maybe Christie if they're going for like the train wreck factor of at all nope Christine actually read after Chemi Tommy nope Thomas or after I know right. I have no idea so I'll say no obese Lisa five people didn't get a single mention sadly and over he was one of them will auntie and the other four were Jack Sisson so the number to just does not know Jesse was she got one person right this is it is a cat. It's not cat was Richard Tommy and number five on the whole rock I can't I can't believe this. This is crazy so pretty. Much three is literally only three people I think left that you haven't said one of them was the first David it's not David the other two. Were the final two it. It was Jackson Jackson number two thirteen craziest since you did this survey like right after the season right I did. I did it over this past weekend. How you would think of it in the finale given how much people were like? Yes we got our pound of flesh from Jackson. Maybe they were happy happy about painting such a negative light. I think I think the only community there are some Jackson's Tigers who weren't fully one in one sync with what was shown on the live feeds versus the episodes so for them. They probably were a little bit blindsided. Maybe they feel bad for Jackson or something. Maybe they WANNA forgive. Give Jackson these your favorite though is a pretty big stretch. I couldn't imagine putting him as my favorite but actually I have a little bit of insight right on that because I was putting together casual corner game that we're going to play and there were definitely a lot of comments that were I can't believe that. CBS would do that to Jackson you know what did he do to desert so so yeah I can definitely understand where thirteen percent of people would come from Geena or having him as their favorite right well. The good news as you guys are sitting pretty after one question with fifty three points over a quarter of the way there to two hundred so go into question number two which was sort of a random question and I couldn't think I had four that were pretty easy for a fifth one. I'm like okay. Let's talk about twists so this was named the big twenty one twist that Youtube said was their favorite now thank you I yeah I know right so I was interested to see if we're going to say and if there was a runaway winner or something on it you said the field trip America's favorite America's fueled trip and that was actually number three with twenty three points so actually a decent amount yeah not not so bad mike like you said. What did you say you said? The double eviction even count was one of those so that was one of those interesting ones where it's like technically. I guess it's a twist because I would. I called it a twist in the past but the actually it actually was worth three points. Oh great so I went ahead and decided to not skirt around some people leave lots of random answers. Sometimes they'll fill out four to five answers or they love to leave leave multiple names so who is your favorite half the gas and like I just go with whoever they put. I sound like that was the person at the front of their mind so a lot of times people for this example. They didn't like it so in this case I took some of the joke answers and included them because why not only worth like one or two points. You guys have any idea what might have been American. America's field trip was number three. Do you guys have any idea what might be number one and number two. I feel like it's like none of them number number one or something that's exactly on the Internet should should give it to be so I was initially GonNa name in this question. We're GONNA make it say including none of them named the Big Brother Twenty one to us so you do so decided to get rid of it and I'm like that's too easy but number one answer was none one of them for thirty one cents was I can't seem to okay so I was it. America's pranks that our number two is frankly yeah no pranksters. There's actually a number four with only four points. It was a huge drop off after America's field show a the Oh yeah the wax worth one point while they got even less double of Vixen might not be a twist can't is Kim combat embed can come back. I think it was so so remembered that people just by default put it in it got thirty POW. Wow Wow I guess as much as none of them. I guess it's because it allowed us to like watch the people that we liked more but I feel so much. Watch bad happened almost as a result him come back to the bad outweighs the good yeah I mean that was my thought actually because I thought cam come back and I was like Oh. No you know I had a lot of controversy or at least that's what I remember but but yeah that's point. Also you know if you're trying to think of twists. That's the one that lasted the longest so maybe you're more likely to remember that so but yeah none of the above is is great. Yeah I totally forgot activity competition think people have stronger memories when they're in pain and I think cam comeback was very much a month long unfunny cancer cell so we can go number three. You guys got twenty six points after question to on top of your fifty three points so we can just sort of slowly do the math as we get down questions but that'll be sitting at seventy nine total which is pretty good about where you want to be number. Three question three was other than Jackson figured most people would say Jackson and he'd be a runaway easy obvious obvious who who played the best game this season so I started to say okay outside of Jackson. Who Do you guys think and Liana you said Tommy and and Tommy was a pretty good answer? He was the second most popular answer for best game other than the winner. He was twenty four points. I guess that's pretty good and Mike you said you sit in a coal played the best game I've I assume some people like to equate popularity with the gameplay employees as well so I just sort of went with that might set okay do do you feel confident with that already. Feel like that's going to be another double eviction through actually feel pretty confident about it because she's someone who we saw up until finale night and she was making some good moves at the end of winning competition so I feel pretty good well. You should feel good because that was that was the most runaway answer of the entire survey us do self worth the forty five points. Nearly fifty percent of those responded that I surveyed believe Nicole played the best game other than Jackson Congratulations I. I don't know if that's the case but I'm not going to the Internet. If it's helping us that I honestly I was. I was like wow that is such a runaway answer. I wonder if you guys would would maybe like not good enough of an ad like no. No aren't going to sign a coal and then you wouldn't get like forty five points there. I mean I've been I've been following the Stock Watch. I'll see we know oh how much the audience loves to equate popularity with good gameplay numbers. Yeah turn okay so that netted you guys sixty nine point one for number three which is huge so you initially had seventy nine going all the way up all right number four scale from one under ten. Actually I really want to go back. Let me go back on question number two. I had a few jokey answers that I wanted to bring up. Bring up that I thought were really funny and this was talking about the twists twists because a lot of people didn't like the to us and so instead of saying none of them they gave me jokey answers that our great like on person said Jess winning two comps in one week uh-huh hey expect unexpected training odd twists Marcel. Somebody I think was so over the moon about Nicole they the best waste list of Nicole's existence and last one person said letting Jackson in the shower. Oh yeah that's so funny. Money didn't keep deny that when he came out of the House it's like I didn't do it yeah yeah yeah trying to come after him with video evidence which I think he's just GonNa keep denying until you know until until he decided not to go onto the yeah. I wish I don't know technically. We didn't see the food go into his mouth but shower. I don't exactly know what purpose would be if not to eat said well. He brought a cucumber into the bathroom that one time so true all right so number four question number four and a scale from one to ten give me the score youtube rated big brother twenty one. Let's see Gaetana you said six hundred ten so just barely above average that was actually the number one answer worth twenty the three points all right well. That's could be worse. You know I mean it could have been so you know what I'll take exactly which I'm assuming assuming we'd be like the one of how many people gave this one yeah on the Internet also tend to go like really one way or the other so I'll be intrigued when all of this has done to find out how many ten about how many votes there were somebody gives us season Nicole ten so that would have been worth one point Nicole. You're saying Nicole for every single answer you could have done it and made a killing but anyway so then okay twenty three points the next one was Mike my seven out of ten and I assuming zooming six hundred ten. Wasn't everyone answer seven to ten the number to answer for eighteen. I assume that maybe it would have been a given uptick because Jackson say what you want about him but I do deflect he's one of the most unique player types win this season of big brother and he certainly was flashing down the line so I think that is definitely a very different compared to the past two finale or it was more of like the quieter which is set out Josh but like less flashy player one so I think that's helpful people's opinions right. It's interesting when we did this edge of extinction the top two answers were by far and away. There are seven and eight hundred ten so it's interesting to see. I'm not a huge correlation. I I can only imagine if you asked that question. After the finale that number would have been yeah right. That's true this is right after the double double of Gillian David so more a lot higher on it before for that point. I wonder if this was done after the double of twenty one. I think that six seven might turn into a seven I mean that's that's the thing and especially with ninety nine days of such rollercoaster. You know you pull at different times. During the season you could get a huge array of answers from nine to ones. I'm sure just depending on when you ask yeah and so I figured since you brought up the people number of people give it a ten and ten or one out of ten actually really low only one person give it a ten and one I give it a one wow yeah one hundred people so the same number of people gave the season a one ten in another ten yeah and I decided to look at this survey of the first one hundred people and see what their average scores out of ten and it turned into a five point three nine out of ten which isn't that high yeah especially compared to the number one number two answers. I guess is so heavily weighted to the bottom half sale yeah looking at the numbers go down the the number three was five at a ten and Ford Ford attended three hundred ten so those are the third fourth and fifth most popular eventually state nine people were more down especially with the ending of season so number five question over five was name the big brother Tony One player to believes is most likely to return for the Hypothetical Authentic Uil Mythical Pegasus all starts to season that will not come to be. Maybe this winter knows okay salona cliff and Mike you say Christie now knowing how many points we have between between the flask four questions you guys are at one hundred eighty nine. Oh my goodness means. We're going to work in a similar situation. Although I will say you were in worse spot with the previous one that lasts times about five months ago you guys were at one eighty seven with one answer left now. One one eighty nine with two answers left so suming you didn't totally a double of action on this morning should be okay for some reason. I assume that since I got something interesting on on ahead said Oh. I didn't realize you said Yeah I said cliff. I should've answered Nicole for everything. What have I done? Yeah you have to just believe in their faith of the Super Stans who just love Nicole so say cliff and and cliff was the flip best answer out of ten that were given so named the people that are twenty one player you believe is most likely return. Cliff cliff was a fifth out of ten names out of the sixteen. Hour cast was worth. Oh No what have I done hope that at least east six people wanna see Christie TV screens again so of course was it five with five points yeah. This is going to be an interesting ending yeah so I can tell you now. Nicole was in fact the number one answer Tom by far and away she was at thirty six points and so okay so you said Christie while I can tell you some good news. Tommy was number. Two with twenty one points joints number three number three was Christie and she did not have five points. She had twenty. Thank God God save the day by the last answer. I really doing this Atlanta. High anxiety is not good for this type at the gate puts you at Total of twenty two hundred sixteen two hundred points you guys now officially have confetti on your shoulder my gosh and I think I looked a little bit happier than Jackson so yeah my teacher not as red as his during that one commercial break when he was like furiously whispering at Hollywood right or are they talking about yes clustered. I was GONNA say my fear of going in. was you guys were going to say Nicole for everything because she was like thirty six points lanes forty five points forty one points like somebody just says Nicole. They're pretty much like one hundred fifty. You can say whatever you want at that point you one person said for name the the player that's GonNa come back. I decided to accept this answer and the answer was worth one point and I don't understand. I think it was a phone typo correction. It says pretty jury back you know we want the pretty I think trying to sing the preacher even bring the whole sense. That was my best. Guess Lazinski pretty good when they were on the finale night. I didn't notice that I was texting actually with Liana about this that I did notice that they did not do speaking of the rush along the they did not do like that each jury member walks out on stage to rafters applause and part of me wonders if it's because of the mixed reception of some of those jurors that they wouldn't want to risk them. I'm getting booed by walking out onto stage finale night yeah. I don't think they were going to be coming out with you. Know everyone's like yeah. We Love Jack. Yes yes yeah all right yeah. Thank you for bringing that game. That's a fantastic way way to get a pulse of very interesting way to get a pulse on on what people thought especially post finale so I'm glad we were able to pass the test as to what the pulse was on your community yeah. No it's fun for me too because I don't always have the best read and this allows me to sort of assess like the people that watch videos and come to my channel. I don't always know what they're thinking king and maybe I give this season like a seven out of ten who knows and they're giving it an average of five out of five out of ten. I don't know who they like and it's like okay well. They clearly all all our Song Sandler page. We all love Nicole. Nicole is number one pretty much and then as far as the twiss goal is really interested to see because I'm not a big fan of twists. I made that known this this year and and get a little bit of pushback from the thing. Most people are pretty okay with the twiss but it's like the number. One answer was none of them. I'm like that would have been so. It's nice to know that we're on similar pages well on that note of sort of getting the reactions to the finale and the season in general I want to move into next game that takes takes the power from the people to the people who have played big brother before and I have cold together several tweets about the big brother twenty-one finale rahm previous outs or we're going to do is we're going to go back and forth between the two of you each question. I'm going to read to tweets from big brother. Alumni is your job to tell me which one had more lights from the twitter verse on the night now a lot of stuff lying around with that very interesting finale and we'll see who had the hotter takes or who was just hotter in comparison to some of their big brother rather okay all right right well. Let's start with Yuliana. This will keep it in the family. Start off so your your tweets again. You have to pay which one has more lights. Kayla Herman said I feel like the big brother Fam- is like Greek life initiation. They spend up to ninety nine days in the house are version of hazing then they come out and joined tasers community welcome to the club Hashtag twenty-one you paid your dues mode of a goofy face versus Eric Stein Stein that finale dot dot dot. I'd be twenty one which one had more like Oh man okay. Yeah I think on this one. I'm going to go with Eric. I'm sorry it was a heat lynch. Eric had five hundred forty likes CAITLYN's had nine hundred and nine how okay I thought it was a simpler tweet. Mike Garner more likes of but but yeah okay all right now we have the big brother Greek system and that could be the team did camp this season. We could do GRANOLA ratty guys on this season that like I feel like we already got a pretty yeah. That's true I'm good with and this next one is for you to big brother. Winners had very different opinions as to how the end game would come out to be. I tweet Coal Frenzel. I right now think Holly has it at tag twenty one. What do you think versus as Derek La- Vassar this Jackson's game to lose and if he doesn't own his game with the jury he just might Hashtag twenty-one so nicole versus Derek which tweet had more likes okay? It's interesting that Derek was on her school Nicole on his season. I'M GONNA say I'M GONNA say Derek that is correct. Eric Cantor four thousand lights on one thousand four thousand likes on his tweet Nicole had at one point one thousand so it's close but it was very interesting to calls like oh I think holly has maybe she was to your point about her surprising on the on the jury question I think meal pre I was just thinking like I think more people were less interested in holly winning than Nicole our Mickey so I was just thinking if you're going to favor one side of the other more people probably GonNa go own Mickey's direction but I don't know anyway all right. We ought to this next one for you. I all of this question own your game. Natalie new GROTI tweeted word word of advice for all big brother future players jury management is important. Some people have it and some don't simple as that and it's a if of Jack Jack from willing race or doing like a gesture versus Josh Martinez Goodbye messages will forever be a game changer. You Are Wealth Dhamma Dhamma wink emojis fist emoji Ryan laughing emoji Hash. It'd be twenty one so now I know both of those players have crossed over into the challenge world but I still feel like Josh may be more prevalent with big brother especially because he won so I think I'm going to go with Josh here. That is on challenged tonight. Nonetheless Josh was trying to all his plate spinning as a word tweeting about both yes. Josh is tweet had one point five thousand likes Natalie's at five five hundred sixty six not surprised all right. We're going back to you here. I'm really going back to Nicole friend. This is a conversation actually between two in house. S and I'm GonNa let ask you which one had the more lights. I guess side of the Internet take okay. Maybe we'll said I feel so sad. That was not happy finale or break Emoji Hashtag DB twenty one versus Andy Herren all and says it wasn't but it was necessary. Sorry I think the show realize it go a little happiness in order to each valuable lessons about how some people treat others because of their race sex age etc Hashtag BB twenty one so between Nichols. Why is this finale so while wha andy sort of rebutting that point? Who Do you think had more lights? I think Andy I think Andy's pretty thorough with the twitter community you think he knows what he's done. Yeah Sandy you overestimate the rat voter. It was a whole will andy speak up five point eight thousand likes to eight point or off the record with Andy more but it seems that the twitter verse maybe agree with Oh. That's crazy yeah well. I think it's similar to what you were saying before about how there were some people I think the thing about finale while some of us were like I'm glad they're bringing this up. I think some people have the image of a finale supposed to be like a big happy ending for the season no matter what and this was anything but so I think that might have sense Liane. Let's go back to you here or some shoutouts Mr Pek tackler Jesse Daughters tweeted huge congrats to Hashtag Jackson it'd be Mickey on his amazing at CBS Big Brother Win last night what a win whatever finale what a season and baked and grasping America's favorite hd at bb Nicole the two H Jeez who said things about me one who incidents I think not ha ha ashes BBC twenty one at this was an instance where I'm like twitter needs to go back to one hundred forty characters. This is clearly an abusive. You're tweeting power Jesse so so that's one versus swaggie see Robin Click passes literally like my best friend. I love this woman so much lol. That's my dog Hashtag Bagged Twenty One oh man it was a shoutout to CBS extended shout out by Mr Patankar much Julie Chavez rushing him along versus Swaggie see see on out robbing bats. I mean Mr Particular tweets allot did he. I don't know if this is cheating eating but did he APP people in his tweet. He added. Cvs Big Brother an act CBS did not add any other okay. You know what I'll go with. Mr Particular story was Swaggie. See Don't underestimate the gang game darn those t shirts. It's man guys on Marketing Swaggie see got two hundred fifteen for his robin cast. A bishopric tackler only got ninety six year point lead on and just might be the church proliferation. What I know about Jesse is that he not only tweets incessantly but also re tweets his own tweet as well so they appeared voice so I didn't know you tweeted so much? I very rarely I've seen him on twitter. I don't all yeah that's interesting. I didn't know that he was still even watching in the show. I mean he did he did he make an appearance not using him Pandora's box after beebe another another used last season right is he he was the one who gave Rockstar the instructions of Adam Smith but before that he wasn't really on since fourteen when he popped out and was I think that's that's when he was Christmas version of some. I don't know I don't so he does follow me on twitter which I would say a humble brag but maybe more darasing at this point though so like I don't quite know but he's always tweeting about big brother or he's always just always tweeting. It's kind of annoying twitter. Fingers sodium bolted up all right. Let's move back to you rhythm. This one's polled expect the unexpected. The first tweet is from Brett Robinson at BB. Maybe twenty breath plot twist dot dot dot I walk into finale Hashtag. BBC versus Paul Abrahamian Wow Ashtec bb twenty one feels like an episode of Black Mirror. I'm going to say Bret. I actually remember seeing Brett's don't actually actually members in both of them. I don't remember their likes. I'm going to say breadth. Are they. Use a little bit more popular. Sorry surprisingly all the doppler the bigger reception here with his black lack mirror comparison. He got six point. Seven thousand likes opposed to Brett's two point nine thousand. I don't know exactly what Paul meant when he said it's an episode sort of Black Mirror which one also the ringling they're being deprived of technology doesn't really feel like I guess if it's someone being publicly humiliated lead in front of America during a reality show. Maybe but it's an odd comparison I will also say this is completely worthless. Speaking of survivor Brent Robinson did tweet on fact Teheran Meredith in Survivor was my cross coaching high school. Oh okay well. It's a small world fund crossover. I suppose on Cross Strait great all right. Let's move on here back to Liana. This one's called thirteen hates Jackson first tweet it is from Shelley Moore Hashtag. Bb Mickey Mom just kept saying you're good. You're good to Jackson Hashtag. Wow HASHTAG LOUIS VERSUS ADAM PA he was turning Purple Hashtag. BBC twenty-one with a Gif of I think it's Bob the tomato from mm-hmm Veggietales of God a I'll I'll go shelly. I guess is he's correct. Shelley's Kurt but very angry aiming about Jackson's mother dot four hundred twenty seven likes Adams Veggie comparison only got six. Okay Um right back to you. Iridium some pre juror love from the alumni meg molly. All I have to say is Cammy is stunning Hashtag. DB twenty-one Ursus Jessica Graph Lovie for President Hashtag twenty one which one got more lights. Gosh I feel you should underestimate the power of cameo on twitter. Let's see okay so Jessica. Graphs lovie and the first person person was who NAG MOLLY GRANDMA MEG Meg molly four I`Ma say Jessica graph just because of the fact that she's pretty big on social media that is Iraq Iraq her lovie president one point six thousand lights megs only got five hundred thirty game. Okay I think it would be yeah I mean he has nothing to do with Zing Bot I think then he'll be fine because we know the controversy of his presidency. We really want to try to avoid avoided anything associated with imagine lovie being like I dunno like a cookie in every play and I won't wake you up with a nightmare power. I'll be the solved off tonight airs. Oh man remember the nightmare power. Oh maybe we should put that as I'm sure people ironically put that as favorites whistle the man com. Nobody remembered any of that stuff yeah. There wasn't really yeah I mean might might didn't even remember it. Ah Twist so I will say it was the naming of those powers were nightmare panic and chaos and it was funny when we were watching it at the time I recently recently moved. How about two weeks ago? I'm in a new place. Since I started recording. We used to live on a peninsula and for some reason the just the one way street that I lived on have tons of emergency medical service vehicles rushing down firefighter shocks just ambulances. They just called blazing down every every day. I don't know what is it random times and sometimes early in the morning I was like how is there so much like chaos at the end of the street. I don't understand like how many people are actually down. There and my wife and I look was a loud noise wife and I ended up nicknaming naming the street that we lived on nightmare panicking chaos just because of all the constant noise that we would get involved there. It was endless and that was definitely one of the pros for I love you said the year Panik power have been for you to pick a new house to redraw right yeah right they they because of Jack's right so stupid two out of three same people yeah we've all along with the nightmare power where I think it was. They have to like move house in the middle of the night you get up. Take your stuff and all of a sudden there's new nominations so so yeah and then Christie's our is that she comes to you and says look. I could've issue from this house right now but you have to do what I say or. I'll all use it and then you say okay fine. I'll do whatever you want and the Internet really craps on you for a little but then ultimately benefits your game because people trust you know exactly actually I'm going to finish off with a couple of questions here. We're GONNA we're going to change it up a little bit these next questions one for each of you is actually going to have three tweets and what you're going to do is order them from most likes to lease like you're going to get one point. If you get the first place one you're GONNA get one point. If you get the second place you you can get a possibility of two points if you do all three in order so Liana. Let's go back to you here. these are three Nicole lovers and again and you're going to rank them in order of most likely slights big meech tweeted let Nicole they'll hugger parents ash tag. DB twenty-one Danielle Reyes weeded baby girl. If you walk out tonight don't trip vanilla chip. We are proud of you. You may not one but you the game that you want America's heart thank you for being the Ray of light of this season. We got nothing but love for you at. CBS Big Brother Ashok between one hashtag Nicole finally elissa Riley slater in graphs to the winner of Hashtag DB twenty-one Nicole we all love you so much and you're trending girl wing face champagne emoji. Oh Gee up already horn Emoji Hashtag coal ash tag big brother winner Nicole Ashtec big brother and Nicole big brother okay. That's far too many hashtags I'M GONNA go with Danielle Meech Elissa. I'm GonNa give you one pointing wasn't he. The first one it was closed between the other suit and Y'all got one thousand likes. Don't trip Manila chip Elissa wasn't second but only with six hundred eighty one lights Hashtag Galore and then meet was in third with six hundred thirty five all right already for this last one which I like to all who put a nickel insys Judd Party darty wow analysts is alive and well now Hashtag. DB twenty-one Daniel Mercury wow our dot dot dot wow dot dot dot on elise is looking really really bad to me in this Brown table speech. Not a fan of people like that. My entire I review of her has changed dot dot Ashtec. DB TWENTY-ONE HASHTAG bitter ask shocked at over it and J. C. Do you guys thinks she's showered every day or not. Laugh Primeau g laugh prime. OJ Till Crime Og chiltern Emoji and this is also tweeting his big brother after Dr Orwell backyard interview with where he confronted her about the not showering so between Casey Daniel Murphy and Judd or those tweets from most to least Lisa okay. I'M GONNA say Jaycee is number one number two and Daniel Murphy is number three that is Karang when you're on the money Sir Jaycees tweak that seven hundred thirty seven lights judd dot two hundred five lights and Daniel Murphy got one hundred twelve l. but they all have the same feeling about on Elise where the hell she came from in that round give quick tangent the WHO put a nickel and Joss 'cause I is that what you're referencing yeah from the challenge. Oh my gosh I still say that line like now. Watching whenever jazz does anything that's the first thing that pops into my head so Kudos into that reference. I appreciate them. Congratulations for radium by a score of four to three you have won. This game tiebreaker was going to be a how many likes investigator for the tweet. How do I watch right now on east coast if I'm in? La Awesome it's such a such a tweet. What would it be? I think it was ninety. Okay I was GONNA I was Gonna go a little higher. Maybe one hundred something but make sense very fussy man. Actually you know what my phone. The other day was like. Oh you know you haven't used these APPS and awhile. Would you like to delete them from your phone and one of them was Fethi Z. Fitness and I was like no I need it. Have you gone onto it recently. I think I lost my log in information so I think I downloaded like right in the preseason bill twenty and I left like a really good review. I started using it as a joke. I haven't touched it since but yeah I don't know maybe he's got another since then also is ugly but the other part of it is that no one uses it so you know I don't know problem the challenge I see might have another outlet to him. Belfast fitness coming very true bracelets for a while or something like that or you could buy them. I appreciate the fans out there that tried to push for me to get one. I did not receive one a but anyway all right so let's get into our last casuals corner owner of this season wrapping everything up here with the casuals response to the finale so this okay so overall. I will say there was actually a lot of I don't know if controversial is the right word but essentially there was a lot of debate going on about how Jackson was confronted with regards to his his comments during the season so there were a lot of comments that were not so funny so I focused on things that I thought were more entertaining and that is Jackson's reaction to winning and casuals thoughts on so this first question is for you pretty amazing so again. WAYCAPITALS quarter works is I pulled three comments that were from the casuals and then I wrote the fourth comment so it's up to you to guess which one I wrote okay comment a wow dot dot dot. has anyone been less excited to win be. He wanted the confetti the and he looked like he could care less see. How can anyone be sad with confetti? Maybe they needed balloons as well or India. Oh my why the big square red unhappy face Jackson so which comment did I write okay so it's trying to understand what your psychologist for writing these. I'M GONNA say I'M GONNA see. The third third one was on that you wrote the balloons right okay. I don't know I thought I think they'll be the ones that yes. That was the comment that I wrote one zero but this question is for Mike so the casuals were also interested in Jackson's clothing that he wore at yeah he wore the exact same thing that he entered the house in yes exactly and the casuals have some thoughts on that so a couldn't have dressed a little better for finale be did he dressed in plaid because of the camp see sad mickey had no other change change of clothes same thing over and over dot dot dot well now you can go go buy you some more clothes or who by us for more cows or D who cares this. Dude stupid needs to get out of those thrift store clothes ooh I I really liked the amazing that you partially so ambi. Were were was putting find anything nicer address. What was he addressing plaid because of the camp? I kind of hope yeah. That's correct we own. You're making comedic decisions. I'm like dress and plaid because of camp or because of the camp like which one do I think is more stupid but yes that is correct Mike that I did. I did right okay so now. Let's get into some more general comments that were made so pretty on this question is for you. This is just a potpourri category. A The camp stuff was very very immature and childlike didn't care for it be Mickey hit it at the Holiday Inn over under under and then an a-plus slash minus sign question mark a boy. Why would you over under an plus? I don't know but like over over under what not a numerical value got guys see. Three out of five of the past winners have openly cried for their MOMS can't tell if bb is changing or the world is what is Holly's always name again okay so I wrote D- The most so I'm GonNa just going to say to being a very comedic line weight. It's so now I'm intrigued to find so re the five last. PB winners. I guess who are the two that they felt didn't cry for their MOM's okay well. Josh Maybe Casey is one of the ones that it did not Casey Josh Dead. I think oh Steve Dead so just like us so the three during the three guys cried for their MOMS and the two women yeah sure we'll go with that yeah I think my favorite comment was the camp stuff was very immature and childlike didn't care for it which I think was just a Typo but I like to think was somehow related camps for. I don't know no I like this. Yes I do like no. We didn't like the campus to go to a fort into the military should be the theme next thing more mature. BB armies right okay. I Mike this question is for you. Hey can we just redo this season with a whole new cast which I think is just another season and like I don't understand how you redo the they're coming in and doing a redoing season with the tardily new cast is just a difference fritzy right. Okay be big brother. Please no more Chad's Becky's and stacy's when casting the show dot dot dot well. We talked specifically last time about what made Stephen or whatever it was that an Chad I think were the two that we talked about. There was another one that we looked up Spencer. I don't remember this at all. See My wife had the remote so I couldn't change change the channel. I was very angry or D. Welcome to the Illuminating Brotherhood where riches empowers are achieved having you looking king for a way to join the great brotherhood. Here's a golden opportunity and a chance to join the great fraternity during the Aluminum Brotherhood today and receive a sum of eighty thousand dollars immediately really after your initiation and more benefits to come your way no human sacrifices involve only a few items needed for your initiation interested. What's up the temple Lord on the plus a tooth insane? What's going to be my new twitter bio? It's like the high on bumble yeah just like swipe right under the temple Lord certain phone number for more information on how to be initiated. Oh my God I feel like you really bent over backwards for that. I I read a long one. There and I'll wait for bb twenty twenty two the illuminating but the grand prize is eighty thousand dollars more mature than camp so yeah. That's true very Tom Okay now. I I completely forgot about the first three because yeah. Can we redo this season with a whole new cast the Chads Becky's Stacy's or my wife hid the remote because I had this image of hiding veto like miniaturized with this guy is just like tearing out to find the remote. I feel like you wrote. I wrote see yeah so I don't know where that came from creating this character of this angry hudsonville chart it's changed a journal wants to watch murky well. I guess I was trying to understand what I was like okay so they're mad because they have to watch big brother. You're forced force is what show and somehow that's more so is that we well congratulations pretty. I'm for winning. I will say my tiebreaker were all comments about the season being over so there was some comments that were the best part of the season was when it ended which which I thought was surly fun comment so so yeah so the casuals I think overall pretty torn on everything but the holiday and we'll never know I think Ed's represents howling. We all feel a little silly little strange about big brother twenty one. It was certainly an interesting summer and we're going to have to wrap this up by temple or what San I am personally I see some future but this was so much fun to get literally everybody in the planet's thoughts at this point about the BBC twenty-one Finale segue into whatever is coming next for big brother at least big brother Canada is coming. We have no idea if there's a celebrity big brother. There's GonNa be a miniaturize all-stars version that they're going to do a completely different season with a tiredly redone season with a new cast who's to say but for more breathe brother no matter what premium thank thank you so much for coming on and subject yourself all these games bringing one game yourself as well. It's always great to have you on. I'll give you both all you on social media and what do you have coming up in terms of coverage for both Big Brother and survivor yeah you can follow me on twitter at Billy guys real name you can also search the per diem will probably show up on Youtube Youtube. It's PALADIUM HE D. I am as far as he was coming up next week. Well whenever this we're going over. This podcast is going up. I should have a review for big brother twenty-one. She's GonNa be a long one all encompassing talking about the entire season but we just watched for the past ninety nine days he's and then after that I'm completely shifting to be talking about survivor and survivor island the idols and unless there's a winter season of big brother. There's a good chance chance I could be talking about survivor until who knows maybe big brother Canada or brother or big brother twenty two so yeah. I'll be talking about nothing but survivor for the foreseeable future wow so quick thoughts by the way what did you think about the island of the idols from here. I thought it was okay. I'll say that my wife was very down on anti was much higher on it than I it was interesting because normally we will talk about it and I was mixed so it's all right. I guess we'll see where it goes. I kind of felt like a little bit like ghost island with the theme that twist raced except instead of there being flashbacks we had flash forwards with Robin and Sandra Fair bit older than they used to be and you know I was like okay. We'll see where this goes. I thought it was really interesting that we had such a prominent female cast. I don't think I've ever I don't think we ever had such a so much. Visibility with the women on the season which I was I was blindsided by and looking forward to Let's see where this goes. You know people were saying the same thing with David versus Goliath so maybe it'll lead to good things yeah and I liked it I because of an so focused on big brother twenty I almost went into the season almost totally blind which isn't usually very common so like for season forty. I'll be totally the opposite so I have nothing distracting me so I thought it was pretty good. I felt yeah not offensive to not like didn't in straight up dislike. It and my wife thought it was Kinda Hokey with the whole Rob Sandra thing it's like gosh there's really really phony at this point. Aren't they and I'm like half survivor's life spans than voting voting in your is it your on board with the phoning or you're just like not watching anymore. 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It wasn't rooting informed so anyway we all know what about you all you on social media and while the brother might be off the air for the time being but you have working on in the pod sphere well so first of aw I will give this podcast in coal out of ten very very fun and then also I have to say this because I thought of this quote since I watched watch the video about the final two jury performances the comment about Gina. Marie de one where she's reading from a teleprompter written by a first grader. That's trying to write it yet. He's hard to their grandmother. Oh my God I left so hard. I think about that quote often. I'm just I'm just Gina Maria itself so it's been really fun to have you on Kurt for the finale of this. You do absolutely great coverage on your Youtube Channel Yeah so for me. Mike and I are back together for the survivor her RHA PBN. BSO We had our first week of coverage with Nicole Susteren. 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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 39 Episode 6 with Jessica Liese

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Survivor B&B with Mike Bloom & Liana Boraas | Season 39 Episode 6 with Jessica Liese

"Some game right off sounds law along by himself as the R H Peyton Day a lay off I can sell you the our ase he's three I everybody among to the key. BNB for episode six of survivor island of the idol my name is Mike Bloomberg just pulled out the cork from our little two liter bottle of soda filled with sand so we only have so much time to discuss this excellent episode of survivor thirty nine fine I mean welcome in my co host here Liana Boris Liana how are you oh my gosh I am so happy that you already started the timer we gotta like move things along that was such a bizarre thing from the island of the I don't know why that was necessary but hopefully we can finish this podcast before our Sandra's out you you know we were both so long winded that is not going to happen now what so ever we'll need several more bottles or a really giant bottle you know those giant novelty bottles sales of like restaurants sometimes we need one of those full of sand all right the Jiro I believe that's called how do you what is it it's called Jerem it's it's one of the large containers a champagne champagne bottle cool man I knew we brought you on for a reason exactly our resident words Smith and guest this week someone who I personally have been leaning forward in anticipation when finding out she was making her return to the BNB Jessica Michalis welcome back how's it going it's going great you guys I got over a little bit of my trauma from being triggered by the reference to a busted can of biscuits because because I have to say that's like the most nerve wracking thing in the kitchen is if you have one of those cans of biscuits and you tried to peel it peel it and feel it wait for it to pop I legitimately gentlemanly like my blood pressure goes way up on waiting for that to happen it is exceptionally terrifying and you're kind of kind of turning and twisting it and then looking way it somehow worse than popping Champagne Bottle Nar journal Jared Bowen Origin Yeah exactly know it is scary the like busting open those Kansas biscuits which do you think is more nerve wracking opening up a can of skits or waiting to see who the Lyra people were going to cast a vote for oh my Gosh Gosh yeah that was also very nerve wracking probably the busted canopus it's though not GonNa lie I'm just on this one it's terrifying way more terrifying terrifying than anything that happens on survivor like that's more attention than anything that has ever happened server I can imagine Lauren's like shedding a tear Jason's like I'm just praying to the biscuit guides rides to make me survive this encounter well well let's get into this season and this episode large let's crack this open and hopefully no biscuit residue shrapnel will come our way just we haven't gotten your opinion as to this very interesting season of survivor so are couched in a really interesting episode episode what are your thoughts been so far six episodes in for Iowa well I gotta be honest I'm glad I didn't sleep on thirty nine it is very exciting so far it's it's almost a little too blind sidey I feel like every episode I've heard the analysis like all of us I listened to many hours of podcasts odd casts about survivor far exceeding the amount of time actually spend watching survivor and I hear people say well this is what I think the editors pointing to this is who I think is on the out this is who might be in trouble and then every week it's completely wrong and completely blow it all out of the water on my Gosh I'm actually really happy that you mentioned and then that was going to be one of my like a discussion question potentially but I just it's too it's too much man you know like I get it I get wanting to have that blindside inside and make something crazy and really something you know oh my gosh no one was expecting it you know but to me it's just too jarring I don't know because I can't handle it I'm I'm just I'm a simple woman I like my stories simple and so I I don't know but it is a little too blindside heavy in just in in terms of the whiplash I feel like I'm getting from the editing every episode well it's interesting that you say every episode because I would definitely attribute that remark to this episode and though Oh we got some really interesting series of confessionals right before tribal council of Elaine and Missy just sort of going down the firing line of this says why we should keep slash get rid of each member of Foci I would say that if you're looking at like a story perspective Jason's boot is by far the most surprising surprising even upon looking at it rewatch we really didn't get much outside of like Jason was probably the most visible of the four x Foci members or ex- foci current vote members if you thought okay who's going to get the boot here probably the one who has a little bit of visibility spike I would say I tweeted about this as well you know I think to that point ain't the editing style has changed in this season in particular but particularly in the latter half of the episodes where I think the traditional survivor impetus is okay could be a but it also could be but we've really now sort of segue into developing more of a shortlist where now there's sometimes three in this case four possible targets we're going into a tribal council now say though this episode I think left us a bit wanting in terms of why Jason Left and I'm glad he was able to eliminate on that and some of his exit oppressed I would personally say the previous five episodes at least told a story as to why that person went home you know like I don't WanNa do gyp David and Jessica's work for them but like like I feel like we could reasonably trace dotted line back to some comments that were made or things that were done earlier in the episode to justify why Chelsea went or even Wyatt Tom went Jason's might be the most muddled and might be the biggest downside to this editing choice of sometimes when you're trying to obscure the vision of of the viewers so much they're not able to see a lot of the details and as a result yes you're producing a Lotta sizzle when it comes to the big surprise of the moment and definitely got that pop but when you're sitting there eating the steak itself you're like okay I like the theatrics behind but I have no idea what the substance of the actual production was about sizzling like the fajitas at Applebee's in yeah I guess I mean obviously reacting immediately to this episode because it's the one that just happened right so I I can see your point about if we went back to the previous episodes being seeing more of a through line in terms of who went the home but yeah I don't know just like for me I my alphabet doesn't go that deep okay and be is fine with me I don't need the season the dis of it all well that's not a phrase anyway whatever recalibrating in some ways and it might be I mean I mean I don't WanNa get too are down the road and look too far ahead to the future but we know that a lot of people the reason that people were telling you not to sleep sleep on thirty nine is because there's May or may not be something very special in the camp for season forty doesn't bust open yeah hopefully not I I think all that pressure is building and building and building you just gonNa keep peeling and peeling and peeling and you don't know what's GonNa pop but here I think we're recalibrating we're maybe maybe the editors are looking at like how deep can we go how many different stories can we tell at once because we know that coming down the pike there are a lot of stories that are going I need to be told and it's going to be probably a much more subtle game and we don't have any total duds in the cast we're not gonNA have any boring episodes that so let's see how much we can get away with telling how subtle can this be before it feels too subtle and that point Mike I think maybe this episode we swung a little too hard in the direction of subtle and we didn't get enough there we we tried to do too many things at once so we might see the pendulum go back the other way next week and we might have a very much more straightforward ordered boot that could very much be the case and yeah I mean I know that we think we have been praising this episode calling it the best of the season I would definitely put it up there I I still absolutely love the entire first half of episode four particularly but I feel like there was so much in this episode that maybe there wasn't even time to build up why Jason ended up being the target here you know between a reward challenge and immunity challenge visit to Ireland of the idols that that extremely important and extremely beautiful scene between Jack and Jill I'm sure we're going to get into that they certainly not only let expand but let breathe which I'm very very happy about I think unfortunately when it comes to that type of format something's GonNa have to give it and I think unfortunately this this episode it was maybe the actual rationale behind why somebody ended up going home I don't know if we're going to see it next time because it really seems like also along the lines of this editing we barely have seen this season like the night out of tribal council fallout from the vote usually really we just cut to the next day and maybe it's because you know the situations I've been more cut and dry with all this stuff but I'll be very intrigued to see the aftermath from from Foci in many ways and if they're gonNA talk about exactly why Jason was the one who got the top here yeah well he I think if we want to again we don't WanNa go down too far down the road of by he lost but I don't know how interesting that's going to be it's GonNa be oh you had an advantage and we got he got advantage screwed okay people might be mad about that but they might also be like well there's probably not very much we could have done to mitigate that Yeah I think okay so the reasoning for why Jason was selected. Yeah I think we might see a little bit of that to your point about there being so much content in this episode there wasn't time for it but at the same moment it would have been nice to have you know one confessional about doubt it just to sort of highlight like oh this could potentially be the reason or yeah they're just GonNa go ahead and wait and save it clearly you know it was obscured in the other rely ropy Boakye people you have a lane being like hey Jason's extremely smart and strategic he could be a good option to get rid of his well but that was sort of hidden amongst all the other Russian roulette possibly be taking the bullet again that's just too much so much there's so much they haven't in this episode even I'm just looking back through my notes I mean the them killing a chicken Nora saying this morning the water tastes like Pu so so many great moments from his episode I like that fact that once again a nora for all her talk about like hey we need more coconuts she cannot keep coconut like like out of her mouth it seems like every time we see you're talking to somebody she has food in her mouth which look finishing school I think that's totally fine and just like it's an interesting behavioral tendency but I I like to see that as a sign of like she's like okay I can trust de now so I'm going to get more intimate with him complaining about the camp and how the water he's been living with with for the past two weeks is has a pool after taste to it that's our social game at work yeah exactly so speaking of Jason Let's get into it and I'm sure we can get into a lot behind this episode as we progress through this podcast but I want us here Leon what you thought about Jason Pre we season because I will very much that the sense I got from Jason for my interview with him and the outcome I ultimately had for Jason upon leaving Fiji after the first three days are monumentally different yeah the this is where this is lie again I've already won because you have to see the first three days although Oh you know we'll see if that actually helps either of us here okay so I had at Jason and again in in response to your question what type of super you he said Split Pea Sup- Jason Making the jury so as the only survivor of the failed split pea soup alliance Jason was able to squeak by till the merge but unfortunately that's as far as he made it he became a consensus boot because he came across untrustworthy to both sides his desperate attempts attempts to search for idols the day of tribal certainly didn't help that image after the vote Jason made like a pea soup and split who's who's the other person I can't remember Ronnie I think all right so maybe they were sharing some nice split pea soup on the trip to Australia Yeah Jerry I know surprise ended up having Jason go again like if you watched episode one on its own you you can understand why even when we visited the vote camp like nobody was talking with Jason he exchange a few words with Dan but we really saw some physical isolation out there Jason said as much of my interview with them that he was even worse that he would like down to sit with seven people from his tribe on night one and they didn't say anything then someone literally said well this is awkward and he yeah he just knew immediately that things were not going to go his way so suffice it to say I did have Jason Making the pre jury I did say he might be on the later end because I predicted a winning streak or vote by I but he's still wasn't going to be able to escape that pre jury curse said he that we have at least one tearful confessional about the game meeting a lot to him and I said that he would quote fish at least one time because he was surprisingly the biggest fish head I think I've met in my life he said his closest ally alive would be nora and I said his worst enemy would be Dan wait Nora oh well yeah I guess because yeah okay it makes we had heard that Nora and Jason were on the outside like okay I guess it makes sense for them to find solace in each other and it looks like they did so I guess that that prediction ended up bearing out just your thoughts on Jason because it was such an up and down trip for him over only six episodes what what's your final thoughts on the game of Jason Linden well well he seemed like somebody I think going into the season without knowing anything about him apart from what we heard in preseason interviews I really really wanted to like him I wanted to feel like I think the same way that the other tribes saw him they were they didn't know what his name was and they were just calling him fish back and I wanted there to be Stephen Fishbach slash rob sister Nino kind of superfan no it all type out there who was good at the game and and played the cerebral game that's always the kind of person I like to root for and I was hoping that would be him but it turned out he was a lot less fish back and from episode one he was a lot more skinny the Ryen yeah yeah I can see that comparison I mean my opinion actually Jason changed throughout the season I think think I had that impression too just at the beginning but as you know I got to see more from him especially the confessional where he does impression of his mom look that was really funny and so I think as a character he kinda grew on me it was actually sad to see him go but but yeah maybe not as fish back in and as one might assume does that make Nora Lil. That's exactly what I'm thinking I was getting heavy any Ryan Lil flashbacks back from that first episode I mean they certainly did enough over the next few episodes to separate themselves from that first impression but the first time I was just like oh no oh this is this is not go well for either of these characters Oh man at least you you know I don't think I don't think Nora Nora face I guess I was GonNa say she doesn't cries much well the faces like sort of like a ticked off face I I don't know I feel like nor would actually be the exact opposite of because lil is so downtrodden and Nora is the exact opposite motivational like she'd be like Yeah I lost is to hook up why yeah even when you know she was very very clearly on the outs she was like Nah it's good fam- dance dance dance yeah incidents with us the other thing is Jason Gone now foci can dance you think that's one reason why Jason Left is because they're like we gotta get rid of the guy who's you you know tamp down on dancing we are wrestlers or Lila rose crazy fun lovin people we can't allow a square here to determine you know the rules around Cam Yeah I mean it's just like the end of footloose right yeah that's that was their inspiration said there were like we must get rid of him yeah that's they drown John Lithgow in the river and then they dance on his corpse literally in a long time since I've seen that movie yeah well they revived it so they went for more darker aesthetic in the wake of something like the Dark Knight rises all right just let's get into the peace of educational material that you have brought to us as we've asked our guest to do over the course of the season about literally anything in the world even beyond the world and it is up to Leon it's not only digest your information but see if we can apply to this game we love so much what do you habit bring to us at the lectern this week piece piece of educational information I feel like you guys know so much already this is really hard are you going to teach us about wine bottle sizes because I feel like I already already taught you one thing but I'm also going to teach you since we're since we're on the topic of the Canon biscuits I don't know if you guys know this particular kitchen tip but if you if you have peeled the entire label off of cannabis gets and it hasn't popped what you do is you take a spoon and you press it you find the Z.. Menu precedent to the seam and then you can separate that inner layer of can from the biscuit and it will eventually pop like the back of the spoon you take the edge of the Spoon Chris it oh I see down next to the scene and then it should it should finally release the seal if it hasn't yet is is this also how you open coconuts I think you open coconuts I I feel like I would not be good opening coconuts I think I would probably end up opening coconut by like throwing it really hard against a hard surface I mean that's not a terrible way to do it I think blunt force trauma might be an easy way I guess yeah I mean it it depends if you sort of like did a good machete and they're sort of Utah Spoon to wedge your way in there I guess it's a good way to just open things in general right because not to get too much into the lost of it all but we had a question this week as you know how do you open something that is an impregnable and I've heard the tip of like put a knife or a spoon under the lid and work your way around there maybe that's a way to like break into an alliance as well you know but I think we've seen that happen before push push on them I'm with a spoon that's all I can think of now is like someone walking around just imagine gemologist pressing Spoon Jack it's like mhm a spoon using like seashells yeah I guess so I guess I'll have to have to improvise snow unless unless you like hid it from album apple brought him back to spoon specifically so he could wedge himself into unbreakable alliances and people to open them up so we drink the innards this emerging strategy right here Bush on people spoons Oh man can you imagine if every food was anxiety inducing is the biscuit sorry that's all I can think about now we've been talking about this or I would have a legitimate eating disorder if that was the what if every food required like that tie okay what's the most difficult food to eat I guess this is a two part question what's the most difficult food to eat or what's the most difficult food to open because I feel like those are two different questions and I feel like for the ladder I mean if you're talking about literally opening I would go with some sort of shell fish or seafood inserting the goal of their biology is to not have you get in there yeah I would go with pomegranates home agreements are so annoying okay I've done the thing where you put it in the water and then the like you cut it open and then you can kinda like peel the seeds out that's the easiest way I've found to do it but then you still need a bowl of water water has stupid pomegranates I don't know the worst I mean at least the shellfish they have the thing where after you cook them the ones that die open or the ones that are good to eat will open and the other ones you can just throw them out they have like a self regulating thing like right like a self selecting thing that's actually a nice so are you saying if we encased all foods in pomegranates we would not have a problem with overeating like like American society does today if we in case McDonald's in a pomegranate I think we've solved the obesity crisis yeah palm mcdonagh in Lake Doc opening a pomegranate and just finding like instead of the seeds sitting there just a bunch of French fries I might I might do the work though for the French fries instead it's a lot of work for pomegranates pomegranate seeds like aren't good but it's just a lot of work God and they're messy it turns your hands bright read it looks like you've been murdering people my Gosh guys I think are here I figured it out you know if we're in this really advantage late in period of survivor why don't we put put advantages in Hama grants because think about it takes a lot of work to get open and when you do to justice point you're going to have to explain why your hands are beet red red when you come back to Kendra literally caught red-handed it's really more of a risk reward situation than I think the people have shown on the actual island of the idols that cell well yeah or that could be the next island of the idols challenge you imagine Sandra boss around like a you gotta peel these pomegranates nor is yeah I'm GonNa do it regardless whatever I don't care I did see a youtube attack that involves like if you cut around the top of the pomegranate with a knife I four I guess a really sharp spoon and then pop the top off and you can easily pull out the seeds in sections but I don't no no that looks like something that I'd have to have the youtube video open to do so if fostered rob asked me to do it unless he's got his own with I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to do it in the moment I also liked like this idea Liana because I would love this island the idols just getting to a point where they're like do our chores for us you know like almost like a Mr Yagi type of thing like I would not be surprised if we come merging urging they're like all right you're going to have to test your craftsmanship by working on this giant shelter that I've been working on and if you pass my standards than you get an idol that you know they could have them cook wash their laundry I don't know what are the other things that they would want them to do although so I'm again like I'm sure they're so bored out there they're like nods finals dude ourselves it'll give us something to do like the time amazing race went to Christchurch New Zealand in the greeter was Phil's Dad I was sure they were GonNa have a roadblock that just involved doing yard work for pills parents I mean then fell doesn't get an allowance so you don't want to deprive him of those precious few dollars I've also say on the Boston Rob Shelter I am very much in the minority because I know we have people sort of you know trying to look past I guess again does the blurred edit of it all and there's no way rob's building that shelter but like I think people undervalue boredom You know he has is literally nothing to do out there keep come from construction he helped build probably one of the more impressive shelters that all-stars homedepot challenge. I I personally think that this is all rob is doing day after day with Sandra just sort of like watching by the wayside occasionally making commentary maybe trying to call him reverse the construction guys situation yeah I I think it's probably the truth lies like most things somewhere in the middle because looking at that ladder though do you think he made that ladder no I think very much went to production and was like hey can you give me these things but I don't think they're like hey let's bring a couple of dream teamers and they'll help you know this is my crew will work on this with me I think that rob is also the type of guy that he would want to work on it by himself you know Yeah I think about this like where's rob going next like he comes off of this show he goes right back into another season of the show perhaps perhaps and he's had all this time to practice building shelters yeah that's a that's a great that's a great point because I think you know I I think if you are going to be stuck out on the island of the idols you wanNA use your time productively right so if you have this opportunity to practice now given he probably had the supplies that maybe he may not have if you were to let's say play another season so you know maybe that was the situation but But Yeah I mean 'cause what day are they at what later on July fourteenth through sixteen was this two weeks with doing pretty much much nothing I mean that's you can get a lot done yeah absolutely and I think that look if they're getting watermelons and the survivors are they get ladders you know I think I think he can get you can ask them to run out to to the Fijian hardware store and get any sort of supplies in terms of hammer nails but I trust in the craftsmanship of Raw Maryono maybe over some and I think I'm very intrigued to see what this is going to be you know we walked in on them actually in the initial stages of building in in this building this new shelter we visited the island of the idol's like literally Roberts hacking branches and Sandra was sweeping the area let me went there so to see it no matter who's WHO's working on it be a deluxe apartment in the sky is pretty damn remarkable the only problem is he was really tearing up that island you know so as someone who's very concerned with the deforestation of Fiji it does worry me a little bit but you know we'll see I hope he plant some trees to repopulate the island yeah I mean their spending so much time out there that I'm assuming they planted a tree on day one and it's GonNa be fully sprouted an idol tree by thirty nine title tree growing idle pomegranates doesn't production just leave a huge pile of bamboo there in order to keep people from chopping down in all the trees I feel like that's something I have read at some point I heard that they provide bamboo I assume they would do the same Sandra in Boston Rob let seems is weird for them to just be like scattering bamboo for their island of the idols people listen again they have time they probably asked like hey make it a scavenger hunt for us put put all around this island so if you could just take the time to go find it that would actually I would love that I wanna like I also just want to know what they're up to you know I it's like Oh we don't want to spend too much time on the island of the idols but maybe we could deal more secret scenes that tell us what Boston Robin Standard doing like when was it last week when Boston rob went on the roundout or almost got lost it's safe because they would have allowed that to happen I want more things things like that and they all end with Boston rob taking someone out in the raft and pushing them off right exactly him over the head with a piece of bamboo try and and and also trying to get as far away from Sandra's ball so all right well let's get into our first big game here and you know what we're six episodes into the season then I feel like we've been watching a lot from these castaways in many regards I thought it was time that we bring out the old buff or snuff so for those who might not remember how this works this is essentially a BNB fashion review of some of these survivor contestants clothing choices or maybe not their own choices choices from somebody and we're either going to give it a thumbs up or a snuff a thumbs down now I have compiled piled all of today's subjects in a Handy Dandy photo album if you WANNA follow along you can go to bit dot l. y. slash buff or snuff enough thirty nine so we're going to talk about a lot of clothing we might talk about some extraneous things as well but in general we're going to get into some of the style behind on these people because look the castaways have been looking at each other for the better part of two weeks I'm sure they have thoughts and we're going to try to fill in the blanks here I want to start with the noticeable hat section of it all because there are quite a few which I'm happy about the sun is blistering hot in Fiji at that time of year so I'm happy they get at least a little bit of shade as the cash shaded towards others now want to start with the person who was the big central focus of this episode whether she was going to island to the idols or nearly at leased from the editing perspective went home had an advantage to us obviously Elaine's cammo Boston red sox cap is top of the head when it comes to iconic survivor fashion choices Liana do you buff were snuff little became hat what is so funny about this this is like Whoa. She's not from Boston right so is she just a fan or did she like no I know somehow that you know Boston raw was gonna be out here on the season I like I don't know maybe she was just trying to sneak it past productions and so was Cammo so she thought oh they'll never know it was random that she found it in the store we have no idea I would love to know the story behind this US saying all of that I would probably give it I don't know a buff I don't feel super strongly I'm just more like confused used about the story behind this for me to evaluate the HAP properly well what what is your sort of head or hat cannon behind why she would make this because like you said she's south of the Mason Dixon Line I think I don't know exactly if she's a big Boston red sox fan yeah right exactly it seems very awed also it seems it seems pre frayed or do you do we think fray is real the brim of the hat looks worn which the like pre stressed close you know is thing actually quick tangent there is a competitor on the challenge this season who has the shirts who have like holes in them clearly pre parade Oh my God i want so those whole so badly I just like really really bothers me so I don't know maybe I'll snuffing 'cause fraying I dunno Jesse becoming US frayed about this hat as Liana as well I'm not afraid to share my opinion here I first of all I don't think this constitutes noticeable hat because it's camouflaged I guess that's true yeah it should be if it's working correctly it is the opposite of nurse of and I think that might be that might speak to why someone south of the Mason Dixon Line is able to get away with wearing a Boston red sox hat because it's camouflaged lodged nobody looks too hard at it it's just like oh it's a cabinet outlets people were Cama whatever and they don't notice the be so it's got a stealthy it I guess I like it for that reason and I in my head I think she one hundred percent owns a Boston red sox hat because now because she's a Boston red sox fan but right because she's a fan of somebody we know where's a little be hat eight is not out of the realm of possibility someone goes on the show as Boston Rob Superfan regardless of whether or not they know no Boston Rob's really going to be there so we think this is this is this is an Omar that's that's how I'm interpreting she much like Nora when she got to the island of the idols I did say I know who you are so she knows rob Ya does she does Sandra was her hero but maybe Boston rob is like above the level of hero maybe he's like a god to her and she's like maybe she's almost like part of his religion and this is like her Yarmulke yes totally Org Sandra doesn't have she has a noticeable hat but it's not an iconic hat like if you just go around with like one of those little green green army caps and you're in the survivor universe I don't know how many people are GonNa say oh you're wearing this hat where you wear a little hat everybody knows what that is can you think more survivor contestant should wear pieces that are modulus two other contestants I think they should do it subtly I think it should be like you shouldn't no one hundred like I'm trying to think oh here's a good example you should wear a little yellow Cardigan with a duck sewn on it and it's your oh mas to Ashley from Survivor Samoa Yeah I'm trying to think of what other good things that you could do that would be a modulus people you know who has something that is iconic or or maybe not so iconic depots what the deeper the better that's my deep poll reference that's really like you're not a true Superfan superfan unless you mimic clothing from random survivor Guatemala contest in Brian Corden and do that as a bit of a call out to him. I'm going to buff this purely because through talking through Jesse made me realize that Elaine's hat is literally the hat child of Boston Robin Sandra Oh Yeah Oh God you just blew my mind buffing it as well then be for both amazing sea issue like lanes just so smart she was able to see into the future so elaine or did production give her this hat production sometimes gives you clothing like they gave Cochran sweater vest and they decided they decided everything brought was not cool enough they're like you have to be a bigger dork so you wear the sweater vest maybe they just gave this delayed or like look trust us you're going to want to wear this hat and make a lot sense about like three weeks and if you make it that far lane was the chosen one all right she's been anointed did yes let's move on here too noticeable hat number two and this one's a lot more noticeable in fact we even talked about this on the podcast before just buffer snuff off Tommy's big straw hat what even is this hat like whose head is it for told it looks like he's got a pretty big head and he's got a buff on his head and the hat is still too big for him like what giant Ashead is supposed to be wearing this hat what is this did they steal it off of one of the Easter Island statues like actually this is just beyond Sandra statue but they said you know what no we should give it to a contested. They're they're dying in the Sun Right now take this well they looked at Tommy he's like oh he's a ginger he's GonNa burn really badly we don't give him a big hat so we'll just steal it off the top of the Sandra statue and give it to him yeah I one hundred percent believe that's what happened I love this hat so much because it's so ridiculous it's like ten feet tall perched on top of his head diameter ten feet wide he's just out here in this giant ass Straw hat so funny and I I love the way it just like purchase on top of his head and makes him you know like three feet taller I definitely buff this one I think at the mazing I really want somebody to photoshop this this hat onto the face of him really mad at the end of tribal council because like if you really like want to take them less seriously just put them in this big hat yeah right right you really can't take him seriously with this ad on just looks so ridiculous yeah exactly who is this hat for it's so great though I love the only way this gets more ridiculous is if it turns out to be the novelty cowboy hat that norm McDonald wears as hurt Reynolds on Celebrity Liberty Jeopardy Jeff extract it's funny all right let's move on to noticeable hat number three another foci we haven't seen this one around a lot but Liana buffer snuff Kelly's black sunhat okay so that's what maybe I'm confused about whether or not it's a son had it just looks like some sort of like a felt hat from I don't know the fifties it just doesn't seem like it's really a sun hat or maybe I'm just confused about the material so it's sort of this lake dome shape on top and then there's a brim but the brim is very floppy so it doesn't seem to have a lot of structural integrity know where she got this or why she has it seems like an odd choice for survivor yeah just another production election ha well they didn't like Kelly as much production don't you like a costume shop like a community theater and they're like well we had this from our or a production of Eight misbehavin Cheryl throw this on go ahead Kelly where this hat it's more like they have on lost and found box like someone discarded boarded this we're not really sure who but why don't you wear Kelly here you can have this really ugly hat I mean I was very noticeable to me so I think it fulfils that criteria just doesn't look like it's made out of felt do you mean like felt like I guess I'm thinking of like you know I love for near Medieval Times and they often give out like Robin Hood hats they're not made from felt there may from like a heavier man like that's what I felt yeah that sounds wool felt right there's different radiations of felt I I feel like there is like the wool felt is kind of the most durable expensive stuff that you might actually make it out and then there's like the stuff that you get for the the arts and crafts tend to your summer camp and that's what I feel like this is made out okay yeah I'm I'm gonNA snuff this one because I guess you know the choice of color is not great as well because wearing a black hat just makes me feel like she's consistently attending somebody's funeral and you don't want to give off that image in a game where you're trying trying to eliminate people yeah right exactly like she's signing your death warrants right it's very intimidating also I did Google felt felt hats and there is one women's foldable wide-brimmed felt bowler fidora floppy hat which looks very much like her hat so how wow that is seo friendly I'm also very confused because you put at least two different types of hat within the name of the same this is like neither which is this this this leg someone someone just like dropped a bunch of words on the ground and was like okay that's fine we'll just go with all of these fidora puppy Elizabeth Warren Google yeah it's a foldable wide brimmed felt bowler Dora floppy wool asked Miss Derby yeah which is really more what it is but anyway yes yeah I'm GonNa Snuff this because it's the one that's most shaped like the suffer that's true do you think baby Killa gets voted out jeff can use it as her it'd be like we're gonNA use your hat instead Ed yeah used there's something happens it's like in the wings waiting in the wings it's the understudy snuff like jeff accidentally drops the suffering breaks they're like okay Kelly give us your hat I I love the under snapper this idea of like crap where we use it this missing somebodies hat otherwise he just had to stand there and blow on it birthday Funnier Yeah Oh man if you had a you know those those trick candles if you've got a trick torch he'd be like sake that happened to Norris predecessor Lil remember that's right yes well yeah she's the biggest trickster there is before we move onto more fun and games take a quick break to listen to a word from our sponsors and we are back let's keep on keeping on let's move from the north side of the body down south the deep South after its introducing in last episode Jess we gotTa talk about errands kids socks are you buffing or snuffing these well they inspired one of Eh wand off moments that made me laugh I think the hardest of all and walk into work and this comes up and I had to stop and like lean against a wall because I was laughing too hard at the kid on the socks which it was epic and I'm going to buff this because this is one hundred percent outside outside of the box thinking this is like in the early seasons of survivor sometimes they would let you and I believe Sandra did this they would let you have a t-shirt with photos of your family on it so that you could have family photos with you and they've really cracked down on that kind of thing so I think having socks made with your child's face on it is is an opportunity to kind of circumvent that in a new and creative way and I know that after the season survivors not going to let people do that anymore do you think he would do you think he told dumb like Oh this is my kid or do you think it was like Oh yeah it's just because it's like a cartoon face kind of it's not like you know how you can the the irony pictures where it actually looks like it's a photo right this just looks like some sort of weird cartoon face or maybe I don't know maybe it's just the picture the era and was like Oh this is my favorite little rascal but I put on a soft yeah I have socks with Rando kids face show I just thought they looked cool that's weird niches are going to be looking back into the background checks after that save it I'm like okay how does this make it through again it's just it's so bizarre they're very odd and it's just the head to their kind of weird I mean I like them I'll probably left them but but is are also very creepy distort them stretch the socks Oh yeah that's yeah yeah that's also true 'cause once you put it on your foot right you know it's all like stretched out it feels kind of weird to be walking around on your kids face to are they on the bottom of the Sauk doc do we know looks goes around the whole thing like it's a pattern all over but yeah that'd be a good question Mike can you ask that an exit interview yeah let me the first thing I asked Aaron is so you've got you've got kids face on your feet buddy the bottom of your foot has what he thought about stepping on your kids face every time you killed it in those challenges exactly what do we think about the choice of purple I think probably the most intriguing part of me a my thinking behind this because I mean purple in itself is an odd color throw grow the kids face on top of that is that just like only marginally adding to the weirdness maybe his son's favorite color is purple and there is some sort of reasoning behind it I'm still more thrown off by the disembodied floating heads on the socks so the colored didn't really bother me does this get croupier if it's an adult person's head on the socks or is it especially creepy because it is a child that's a good point I think it's creepy regardless Louis Okay so the creepy nece not mitigate based on age so like if his son was like twelve that would be less creepy how old is I I think he's like I think it's like five I wanna say remember but like if like if he had a grown son like a twenty two year old you know well you know you know I actually think that would be creepy I think it's a much clearer picture of your twenty two year old son you're suck you know what I think you gotta get my mom for Christmas socks with my face on it too I endorse this one hundred percent where do we think he got those I feel like facebook targets people with kids with these kinds of ads all the time I feel like I myself have seen an ad for this company many times on facebook because facebook knows I have a child facebook is like I think you WanNa put your child's likeness on every single thing you own which of course you do right by kids adorable of course I do absolutely so I'm going to I'm going to buff this one also for the utility of it it all in that now he literally has is everywhere so long as he's not wearing pants or he has capris on or something you know he's got like three sixty all around seeing what people are doing and knowing how paranoid flipping Aaron can be I feel like that's appropriate yeah I think so too okay so I found a company based socks dot com which I think is aptly named so all right good I've already done my Christmas shopping sounds good you get it on some some nice built socks for your mom who felt felt soft foot covers google whatever the long description was sandals drills Dell's yeah exactly slippers Marcus and what we're not leaving Aaron just yet because Jess you are resident tattoo the two expert expert here on the and also we have to take advantage of the Opportunity Elaine did in this episode i WanNa hear all your thoughts about ahrends tattoos Yeah this was interesting because you sent me this link prior to the area and I was like what is the deal with the picture of air you're not wearing clothes like what am I supposed to talk about here and I- correctly surmised that we're talking about tattoos and honestly I am I'm hesitant to really savage someone for their choice of body modification just because I understand that frequently when somebody is tattooed it's probably something that is deeply personal to them and there's probably a story behind it that being said this is the ninety s called and they want their tribal tattoo back this is not a good look anymore it's very dated and it's not it doesn't say say anything about Aaron except that he fell victim to one of the Great Tattoo Fads right around the time it became legal in every state to get tattooed he's like Oh yeah I'm going to get that thing it's like the only thing more dated is if you had the barbed wire going around your bicep it'd be like tribal tattoos user just one step down from that that's my thought on the first one and the second one I can't really tell what the other one says I think it says something only God can and I know a popular way to complete that phrase is judge me which feels very defensive it's sort of like was somebody judging you or are you just assuming that somebody's going to be and if they are is this about your tattoo or is it about something else you did you think that after you ended up betraying all those votes Aaron just flashes his right arm Tommy to be like it should've trusted the Tattoo I had had it pegged all along shut people down like see I think what's really funny is like the order of priorities okay so we're going to get a tribal tat the we're only GONNA put my son's face on my socks like the kid is not special enough to get a tattoo slot yet like let's just hold off on this one sock excessive fine but permanently on my body nothing's yeah well you know that it depends on how you want to pay tribute like getting your kid's name maybe I was going to go like full portrait those can go so wrong so hard and I think anybody that's ever seen ink master knows what I'm talking about but maybe he's just waiting because children's turns faces are really hard to commemorate in portrait tattoos so maybe just waiting for his puberty and get out of the awkward phase and be attractive enough to be on his body and attack the rule is when it comes to twenty two year old children no on socks yes on body yes that's what I was Gonna ask is it weird to have of your four year old's face tattooed or your twenty two year olds face tattooed on your body I feel like maybe it just goes the other way like maybe you should only ever get ancestor portrait's corporates Oh my God that would be so cool we definitely have some old timey photos of like our ancestors from way back she gets that tattooed on myself that'd be hilarious well I just do not cheap out on Matt like this is if you're getting a portrait of anybody make sure to go to the best artist possible bowl and pay top dollar for it do not get a bargain basement portrait tattoo that's that's my free advice for the day that's going to be the equivalent of like when they ask those painters like like Redo the Mona Lisa you'll get essentially that in Tattoo Form Oh Mike you're going to get that woman that painted over the Jesus in Spanish Oh my God my my family family family group chat and every once in a while somebody will just send that picture 'cause maybe he's GonNa to of it then if it's so meaningful for your family I know we should get matching tattoos well just put it on socks I think that that's probably a safer place to start Angela has been really trying to get me to buy because she just got her third tattoo which is an absolute bad ass and she's been really trying to get me to buy until like bloom family maybe we'll get one day when our son is twenty two yeah take him take about for his eighteenth birthday and all the same tattoo I already made the appointment for that for my kid what what would it be like going to create like a little seal family seal feel a little seal knowing us just like put a seal I don't know my mom and sister got tattoos of giraffes on them for some strange reason reasons so it would not be outside of the bloom family to get some sort of random adamant animal tattooed on US I have a random animal tattooed tattooed on me so I endorse this fully see there we go Yeah Lucille do you think Erin should have like the tribal tattoos it's almost maze-like and it's shaped like do you think he could hide phrases or words in there to sort of double down on the whole design of it all well I think that's a thing that is frequently done but I I now I'm looking at it looking for that kind of thing and I'm not seeing it I I would do with words I can't spell because like Russell Union just like it's just like a crib sheet yeah so you just look at it and it's like accommodate free to to ours and embarrassed I forgot yeah exactly that could be useful and then if you ever go on big brother and you have the competition Asian where you have to spell stuff we were like a luck words already spelled out for me a myriad to choose from and then you know the correctly Oh look there's yes nice no analyzer Tektronix for me yeah I will say I'm GonNa Snuff these statues unless unless that tribal tat PAT is an edge to Tony Watchos so maybe is that one step beyond lanes hat is that if you get a tattoo no Masha survivor contestant what what if you show up with like a Boston Rob Portrait Tattoo because I actually I only know one person who has a survivor themed tach and it's like a full sleeve of incorporating the cover of the first survivor book like that Logo Treatment and it's very cool it's awesome but that being said he all he was also very smart to not get a survivor contestants face tattooed for that reason you mentioned you never know like what if I would never get a tattoo of portrait of a living person especially a famous this person because you never know who's going to get cancelled lady what if you got a Michael Scoop in portrait you that'd be that would not age as all the people out there with the scoop in debt yeah that's a good point you never know who's GonNa get cancelled so it's best to just avoid people and small children in general yeah in general in unlikely to be cancelled so you might as well just try to avoid it as much as possible yeah the socks you can earn right you know but a tattoo that's expensive speaking speaking of that I actually want to move in something that one of our listeners pointed out which I did not notice whatsoever Elizabeth apparently has some like Tutti Frutti whacker do sucks Liana what are you thinking about these socks buffer snow I love them so much I definitely buff them as someone who also likes knee high hi socks in crazy colors in fact right now I am wearing knee-high socks with little green hearts in some like little blue hearts all over them so I am very much in support of the is there like visits flowery patterns with us like thick green stripes at the top they may have buttons on them perhaps perhaps I thought at first they were maybe compression socks which also then is functional also I love and his photo you can see errands socks talks with his kids face all your little sneaky sneaky cameo from the kit socks so so yeah there's no faces on these socks which I appreciate so yeah buffed Buff Fisher if you want to hide some misspelled words into this crazy design I feel like that would be that that'd be something you could do their tents it's definitely choice I think you could do to prevent boredom out there is you get like a highlight magazine spread and put it on your socks of like the difference between the two socks you'll have people going for hours at that rate oh that's a good yeah that's a good idea or you just get two identify socks and you tell people there that I'd probably take more time yeah that's a better idea them putting goofy and gallant on your first thing that popped into my head when he said highlights magazine what gallant always said only God can judge me the believe it was gallant from goofy and gallant who once said goofiest Chris pays top dollar goofy goofy goes and gets tribal TAT's gallon pays top dollar for high quality body art I'm sure I haven't read it highlights in a long time but that sounds just Liana that shows the last time you went to the dentist I know for Real I'm like Gosh you know you're allowed to go to a grownup dentist now you're old enough I don't know state of healthcare in America today I still want to reside within the comfort of pediatric dragged this again I I want this as well dorm also intrigued by these buttons because I'm not entirely sure why they're there but that's why I thought they were compression socks at first Chris but then yeah the buttons threw me off compression socks of buttons like what are you what nitty garters you know what I actually I have any high socks buttons hands on them I don't know the purpose and I'm like do I put the buttons on the outside or the inside like do I want people to see the buttons or am I trying to sort of like like what if I need to hook them I'm together there's nothing to hook onto what a button and buttonhole served keep sucks together in the laundry oh my gosh or even when you just put them in your drawer then you don't have to do the thing we like roll over them you can actually button them together and fold them Mike is a great idea wow so elizabeth could legitimately go to Elaine and be like look I'm GonNa help you fine that advantage at the challenge I'm going to stick on you like this ach sticks onto the other one with buttons buttons yes that's exactly what she would say as we all know Elizabeth Basil Prolific TV. Erica I want to move on just keeping me your thoughts here on I'll just flat out say MRIs Pothead Pancho that's her drug this really doesn't seem on brand for missy like what do we know about missy she was in the military she's an athlete she's choosing to disrespect her body that is her temple by putting this audit production must have pulled this out of the lost and found Fabio they left it out in Nicaragua it's been sitting in the lost and found box since then and they're like oh you're cold you could wear this you could still on Mris face she's not comfortable all in this thing and I'm not comfortable looking at it you definitely know Majd Fabio here we're talking about that okay so I know it's a stereotype but all this donors I knew in college had these okay so like there's something to it I don't know why but like that's definitely the case but like we've even seen on survivor like remember sea bass had one of these. I'm pretty sure Ozzy War something like this after he got voted out in Micronesia and to your point jess though MRI middle you know does come from a heart and military background she did tell me that like she made a big list after her cancer scare things she wanted to do with her life Hyphen on survivor was one of them another was to try pot for the first time an