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Liam Neeson & Lesley Manville

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:10 min | 10 months ago

Liam Neeson & Lesley Manville

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast addition of Watch. What happens live with me? Andy Cohen she started in the Phantom Threat. And every time he says release the crack and it leaves me dead. It's watch what happens live with Lesley Manville and Liam Neeson now to watch. I'm your host to Andy Cohen in the clubhouse on our last broadcast of the week with two total showstoppers. Their new movie is a must see. Even though it might force you to triple your budget for tissues from ordinary Lavin Select Theaters. Now please welcome Lesley Mandel. Liam slept here all the way from the upper west side from the UK. Where she starring in the visit? Yes you get the award for most smiles opposite. Yeah you did come from Winnipeg. You're making an ice caper. Yeah Yeah Over the Var she is the author. This is a great new book. I'm I read it a long time ago. I'm so excited it's out. It's called the ones we've been waiting for how a new generation of leaders will transform America. It's about the next generation of leaders. It's out now. It is Charlotte. I gotTa Convince Something I've known Charlotte a longtime you want to know. How long look yes. I have a pony tail. Charlotte is like four years old. She you know what the funny thing is. She was smarter than me then and she's still smarter than me now. This is a super cool book though. Yeah thank you you you you were looking for. Republican Democrat the next round of the people who are going to be leading this country right. Yeah I mean I basically saw that. Everyone in charge was in their seventies and eighties. And I was like this is not going to last forever. So and this is the story of. Who's next to lead the country very cool? I love it. Leslie Lever. Taking your questions but before we get to those. Here's what three things I am. Obsessed with tonight first. Lesley Manville is in esteemed British actress. So I'm hoping she's not offended to be sitting here among a bottle appea- perfume and a bunny with very bad juju. Anyway here's what let's dig into. What does offend her in American pop culture with brilliant? Or bollocks? I'm GonNa give you some fads and moments that we're all wrapped up in you say we're right or not. You can't say bollocks on TV in the UK Kennedy Okay. Good Kim Kardashian West and Kanye West would you are they? Brilliant or bollocks in my opinion pollock's okay really loud hair color and baggy clothing bill. Brilliant or bollocks. He's brilliant okay Taylor swift brilliant. Okay face tattoos bollocks the real housewives no it okay you can say you should I? Is it bollocks. No it's brilliant. Is it Josh? I duNno I. Don't judge senior. Maybe Yoda who's the book how Q? from the from the water young. He's cuter he's even cuter. Brilliant there you go The mass singer this reality show. That's taking people dress up in costumes. I haven't seen it but I've read about England. Yes and everyone's saying it's Bollock so I thought apples packing on the PDA in social media posts. Brilliant or bollocks couples who are showing off. And like it's on social media No really take it home bullets. Thank you Leslie. We usually ask the shady questions around here but there's someone else who comes next in the pecking order who is perched and ready to rough the Liam's feathers here's what Liam you started ordinary love. But you're about to star. In Europe to star opposite our shady ordinary does Shady Gonna. Check me Boo yes shady. What's your first question for? Am which of your films would you like to have taken off your IMDB page? Is there any gloom that you would take off your IMDB PAGE? Just no no. There's not all right okay. Shady dove say three. Nice things about jar jar banks save three nights things about jar jar banks. Now you co starred with charge. Our banks is played by the great wonderful. I'm at best. The funniest Guy Guy World. Okay so seriously the funniest okay. I couldn't believe vitriol towards charge. I couldn't believe it okay. So same. Three Nice things about George are bits about charge on. He's cute okay. Lovely walk okay. There's three lovely walk. Okay last up. What was the best and worst part of dating Barbra streisand last time on this show? You revealed that you hung out with her a bed. That's different from dating. Okay okay. We were pals. They used to run the house with some tea or two movie jets. She wouldn't sing for me. Would not did you snuggle. No okay all right. Shadi W tried it. But you ain't GonNa Change We all right Finally I love having two guests from across the pond because I am obsessed with hearing them use their native slang in their super. Cool accents right. Liam okay so here's what I want to see if I can spot the difference between that and words made up by my staff whose accent is generally more of a slur. It's time for Britannic. Okay take these cards and quiz me. Okay these are either real or fake. Genie readings I have my own. I might have to borrow the okay I we still have brought my peepers that makes it very British. Yeah you look great. Okay yes What am I saying? Now you're quizzing the okay. So lovely means something lovely doubly so I have to. You're GonNa give me the definition. Okay yes and you go to tell me if it's real or not lovely up late means something's really nice. Excellent love lead jump really. I Love I'm GonNa say yes because I want it to be true. It is true over. That's lovely justly Okay Liam give me another one. I like this Fanjak's Banja means retired. Broken Band Jacks and Jax. I don't think it's true. It's real do you say that ever. Yeah where are you from okay? Yes Leslie and twits twit. Let's let it means someone who parties a lot. Oh twitter now I like twinkling but a sweat let I think that that is true. No no it's okay. Give me one okay. Dear Ish Jewish means to be frank Yeah I think that's true. Hey I'd sue so fast yes leslie Aweso. Content means to fall over yes. I think that's house over. Say That did you ever say yes. You Do Darmstadt Liam but this is an easy one boy boy. Oh means boy juvenile? That's real yeah. Yeah Yeah Okay. Let's give you one more only got time for one more knocking. Dili's knocking delete means to make love have sex. We knocked Tilles. Yeah no Glenn Beck Fun like it should be real. Does not knocking Dili's okay? Let's go to Sandra from Scottsdale with question for Liam or Leslie. What's your question Sandra? The High Wham But this question is for Leslie delivery. What was your favorite part of filming your sex theme with Liam Visa? We got to do about five or six takes league God. That big old lumberjack was on top of. You was the other one when you're on top of me as well on this. Oh okay let's go to Audi from Michigan for Liam Neeson. Hey Avi what your question. Hi What did you honestly think of the Final Star Wars movie? And we're the rumors true that you actually filmed scenes. That were cut off sweetheart. I wasn't in it but I I. The director had recording some some lines. Right Jackson did as well. I. I haven't seen the movie night. So I I assume they used one of these lions as a voice from the past Jet I it is in their yes so I'm not really in the movie. Did you get paid well for that? tonight paid for what they did to because. I'm a goodwill Eunice half passenger. They gave us a check for UNICEF. Oh Nice very good all right Liam Suli wants to know. Did Charlie's there on actually shove a flower in your ass in a million ways to die in the West or wasn't double okay. Mark van slow as my stunt coordinator. Yeah we've done this working or twenty four film together. Well when we were doing that movie I hate my Irish but okay I said to mark mark. This is a sign of our friendship. Would you ever do this scene where Charlie's on puts a daisy and your but they said sure wow? I know it's not a bad day's work I I gave him a big hug after. There's no way then. What are you going to see my Irish but had it okay? I'm not I'm going to resist the opportunity to say what I want to say you Did you like once upon a time in Hollywood by the way speaking of people in their relationship with their stunned I did I. I like the very very much. Okay I'm not a huge Tarantino Fan guy. It was clever Let's go to Jill from Oklahoma. Hey Joe what's your question. High Ambi highly. Am I personally love your Irish spot? I thank you for over ten years plus of TV. Bliss I just love you and all things Bravo and I'm Mossel to you. Thank my questions for Leslie. Oh lastly hi Leslie Hi. How did you celebrate being appointed an officer of the order of the British Empire? Who from the Royal Family? Were you most excited to meet. We'll you don't know who you'RE GONNA get presenting it to you at Buckingham Palace. Get the okay you got Camilla. I think Camilla does it. It's a waste of the the real royals. No I mean no okay. It was William Ooh war. He was very very I mean he. He must have given out. At honors that day and he seemed to know. Really Donny's Hoa. I was on TV at the time in a three part series. That was coming to an end and he said to me. We're really looking forward to watching the final episode. Wow I love God. You've done your homework. You're in obt to. We're going to get into that. But who presented you ahead to clean rule score you both scored and she said I remember. You're not supposed to address Sir unless he addresses you right and he says is fulfill Ma Theater and I see your Irish but I said I think is both mom then opposite right okay. Let's go to Alexa from Buffalo for Liam Neeson. Hey Alexa what's your question. Hey Guys Liam I love you. I've been a fan of your are so long so my question your gun. Uh My question is so just be honest. Okay whatever it's okay. Don't be worried. Have you ever used the freeze? Release the clock and have you ever used. Release the Kraken as a pickup line. Now let's a you are in the visit right now in the West End at the National Theatre. Megan detected as a prolific theatre actor. Would you hate more a cell phone ring or a candy wrapper crinkle both of them? Drive me to destruction. They do yes. I've actually called out people with on. Yeah I was doing. A play could six degrees of separation and it was. It was a matinee. Lots of schoolkids and this light kept coming out of the audience all the time. Oh God so in the middle of a speech I just stayed in character. And when will you put that phone away and they did? Wow that's all right. Let's go to Erica Virginia for Liam. Neeson what's Your Question Erica. Gleam. I'd love to know where you were little ticked off when Tom. Hanks won the Oscar that year. You were nominated so was that were you. Up for Schindler's List Philadelphia. I have to tell you I was. I was genuinely relieved. Really just genuinely relieved but I remember Tom Coming up and he gave me a big hug and said God bless you thought that's a strange thing to say but it was. It was very sweet money. It's game I've everybody. Both of my guests order of the British Empire which is suddenly making me less proud of the medal. I won for most Tequila. Shots done on a Wednesday. So let's see if they can see their peers with OBI or no be. I'm going to show you some famous faces. You think it'd be giving a title within the order of the British Empire. Say Oh be if not say no be here. We go first up Phoebe Waller Bridge. You know be be. You're right I got this Ceo Ba Liam says no got it last week just last week okay. What about Stevie Nicks? I'd say yes she is. She is not Elizabeth Taylor. Oh the dame's a dame. What about George not? Oh I think he is. Yeah I think so. No he turned it down in two thousand five cure a nightly. I think she is actually. I think she got one. Last year she is with all due to cure nightly meryl streep no because She's American. She's a she's she writes. She is the Dave okay. No she's not what about 'em I as M I a don't even know that is Liam desma Yes she is. So that's all you need to know. What about Ralph Lauren? How I'm sure. Yes Liam because he's America no American. No no no well the answer is. He's an commander of the order of the British. There you go thanks for. This is real. Love Story and tearjerker which are two things that I love good right. It's a love story. Yeah yeah very much. So and tell US couple who've been married thirty years probably only two thirty four thirty five years. It's guy thing is Kinda rare cinema to see a couple of our age. Yeah being in love making love going through this around this thing that she has to go through and it's in select theaters now. And it's all across the country soon so check local listings. It's time for my Mazal of the day. It goes to the small town of Ten deal. Argentina for breaking the record for the world's longest Salami sausage measuring in at three hundred twenty six feet which is bigger than the Statue of Liberty. My immediate reaction is. Is it seeing anybody tonight? Shackle also goes to the town of Tandil Argentina because they dethroned the previous record holder for world's biggest Salani Liam Neeson's and you know this morning when you feel like you just can't get it right. Overslept COTTON TRAFFIC COFFEE SPILLED IN CRISP WHITE shirt. It can be hard out there but you know it'll transform your morning. Dave's killer bread Dave's hardy lineup of morning makers organic bread bagels and English. Muffins are here to revive your day and fix all the things and it all tastes real good. Never skip on. Dkb a guaranteed fresh start. Visit Dave's killer bread DOT COM to learn more and look for Dave's killer bread and the bread aisle of your local grocery store. The stars of ordinary love now playing in select cities. Lesley Manville and the bar. It's Charlotte Alter her book ones. We've been waiting for the TAME. America is available now. She just signed her copy for Liam. That's good I like it. Liam you're going to read it I I'm going to start tonight. Excellent exciting. Let's go to Rhonda from Illinois. I always love Rhonda. You don't need many Rhonda's these days. Rhonda Hi Andy. Cohen McConnell. Annoy my questions for Leslie Good? Hey I was wondering what Paul Thomas Anderson said you after you gave his number outs. Tiffany haddish in front of the entire New York City. Critics Circle. Funny yes I I was. I was What was I doing? I was giving an award. He was meant to have been giving it or I was receipt. No that's right. I was receiving an award for Phantom threads. That poor had one but he wasn't there so I received on his behalf and he said when you get up to the microphone. Will you read out my phone? Number for Tiffany Haddish. Because he wanted to work with her so I did and she came up on stage and I gave. I gave her the number law. I think he got lots of people. Wrote it down really quickly. I think he was inundated with people thanking me a job. Let's go to Erica from Virginia for Liam Neeson. What's your question Erica Gleam? I'd love to know where you a little ticked off when Tom. Hanks won the Oscar that year. You were nominated so was that we were you. Up for Schindler's List Philadelphia. I have to tell you I was. I was genuinely relieved. Really just Janua relief. But I remember Tom. Coming up and he gave me a big hug and said God bless you. I thought that's a strange thing to say but it was. It was very sweet. Let's go to shock from Arizona chocolates. Your question Hello Andy Well my question is for Leslie and my question is how method was Daniel day-lewis on the side of Phantom bread. And did you know filming men? Good he was going to be retiring from acting. No didn't know that he was going to be retiring. Maybe he didn't know he's a very private person in many ways so he only announced that after we'd made the film so who knows when it started to bubble up for him But yeah he does work in the way that he needs to work and likes to work. And that's fine and he had you know the space from everybody in the respect to do that and I did my thing. He did his thing and we did some good scenes. Vote for you for office. If you round that Sir. Very good Let's go to Kimberly from California. Kimberly what's your question My question is for Liam. Okay Liam at home. What do you think about? The chances are of escalating sequel to love. Actually especially censor. Your character. Son Gets engaged in the red nose day special. I think that's one you'd have to ask. Richard Curtis the writer and director. We did a little sequel a couple of years ago like a little red nose day. Yeah I think it was a twelve minutes long or something. If you're flipping around the TV in love actually is on. Will you watch it now? If you're flipping not because I don't like I think it's a beautiful day here. I really do Not least because the opening of that film you see all these people coming in. Yeah you hear. Hugh grant saying the messages from the twin towers were assassinated bombed. Yeah all the messages. Were a bite love. Yes and you're immediately gripped. Yeah anybody not to listen to that and thing I WANNA words more. Yes yet you flip the channel. I WANNA thank Leah's Leslie. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. Remember new episodes go live Monday through Friday at four? Pm Eastern time? Make sure your subscribe to have a great rest of your.

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Between the Scenes - Liam Neeson Admits to Past Racism

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

04:06 min | 1 year ago

Between the Scenes - Liam Neeson Admits to Past Racism

"The you're listening to comedy central. Yes, sir. The unique mission. Blackford? What do I think of Liam Neeson's recent admission that he wished well, I think it's really difficult because in many ways, it feels like an onslaught, you know, I can understand for any black personnel. Should just be like the should never seems to end. Right. You think you get past the age of lynching? And then this little black face in two thousand nineteen. You know, you hear stories every day about black people who are persecuted just because of the color of their skin. Black lives matter exists as a hashtag. Because of that very reason. I do think though the Liam Neeson's story. Most of was would like most of it is treated the way it is. Because of how he told the story, and where he told the story, I think if Liam Neeson had told that story on Oprah. And there was like a conversation. We would have seen it as a person admitting to a time in their life when they allowed their anger and hatred to fester into a racism that they were shamed of then it would be like because then you'd have someone on the inside Oprah would be like why Liam? And he'd be look, I don't know opera. I don't know. It was so horrible. Oprah and she'll be like come here. Leonor? You know, what he's like it was so bad Oprah or so bad. But we never had that. So all it was was Liam Neeson's talking about a movie about revenge. The next thing in the middle of it. He goes, I know what it's like a friend of mine got raped asked to who did it. She said, she doesn't know she just knows was a black guy, and I went out into the streets hoping that some black Boston. And he put it in quotes. You know, any went some black. Boston would step out and start something with me. So that I could kill him and the headline overseas limb Niessen I walked the streets looking for a black person to kill which is what he said. But not technically what he was saying. Right. And I think also I'm going to be honest. I think a lot of people take the story a little bit more seriously because Liam Neeson because people seem as the taken guy if like Tom Hanks said the same thing I walked the streets for a week. We really don't Hanks. Tom hanks. A yeoman gonna kick your ass. Going Bubba Gump your as he like. I think part of it is that it's like people. So it it has a certain weight that it wouldn't have if it weren't for Liam Niessen. I do think it was. It was a powerful admission though, you know, I hope he and people who hear the story understand the gravity of what he's saying. And that is you if you're not careful, you can have inside of you a hatred that is that is encouraged or grown by the society that you live in. And you don't even realize how disgusting that idea is. I think it was cool that he said he looked for help afterwards. I think it was cool to no one bust him. He volunteered. The information. I think it was great that he was shamed. So for me, I that's the world that I wanted to live in I want to live in a world where a person who says something like that is a shame of it. And they are telling it to you not catching them out on the other hand. I hope he understand because I saw him off to it saying, I'm not racist. I'm not racist at all it wasn't racist. Like, no, no, no. I understand why you would say that. But it is it is racist that that is racism that you have the fact that you think you could just go out and kill a black man that you're gonna kill any black man for what a black man might have done is a form of racism because you're going the whole race should be condemned. So you should be able to accept and be like, yes, I I was thinking a racist thought. But a lot of the time I find people afraid to admit that they have had a racist. Because then society says you are racist forever. And then that's it. So there's no value in toning. I guess, you know, and he keeps going out and giving more interviews that make it worse. I'm like, why do you like the things that he says, I'm just like Clinton your particular set of skills doesn't include shutting up? The daily show but cover Noah, here's a dish. Watching the show. Weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy, central and the comedy central watch, full episodes and videos at the daily show dot com. Follow us. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram and subscribe to the daily show on YouTube, exclusive, content and move. This has been a comedy central podcast.

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The Tuscan Landscape Deserves Top Billing in Liam Neeson Drama 'Made in Italy'

TIME's Top Stories

04:35 min | 4 months ago

The Tuscan Landscape Deserves Top Billing in Liam Neeson Drama 'Made in Italy'

"The Tuscan landscape deserves top billing and Liam Niessen father son drama made in Italy by Stephanie's Carrick. Some movies can get away with just being a scenery sandwich. A few fat slabs of gorgeous vistas with US liver of plot slipped between made in Italy is that kind of movie Liam Neeson, plays, Robert, a crabby once acclaimed painter who has been unable to produce since the death of his wife in an accident years ago he has a grown son Jack Michael, Richardson Niessen son in real life who also finds himself stuck. But in a different way, he's been making his living running an art gallery owned by his wife's family. Now, the wife is requesting divorce and putting the gallery up for sale at an astronomical price. Jacks desperate solution is to persuade his father to sell the villa in Tuscany that the to just happened to own. They haven't even been there in twenty years since Jack's mother died. The thinking presumably is who's going to miss that old pile of bricks. Stop here if you're expecting realism very few people on the planet have. Tuscan villas that they can sell for quick cash plus Jackson likeability is a turn off from the start. He's all too good at bossing his father around and you wonder why dad owes him the favor of relinquishing a piece of dually owned property just so he can hang onto his fancy job but remember we're here for the scenery that's the chief draw of married in Italy that and Lindsay. Duncan. Duncan, largely, a stage actor is wonderful anytime. She shows up in film as in Birdman where she played the theater critic responsible supposedly for ruining actors lives. Here, she plays Kate the real estate agent who shows up to help Robert and Jack sell the house which is no easy task. It's a wreck the main room cluttered by a tangle of dusty rusted junk with a Godawful read horror of painting covering one wall. Robert grief-stricken slapped the paint on there just after his wife's death. Duncan sweeps in and hers sensible. floaty cotton dresses and purses her lips in disapproval. At last human being with common sense, it is she who persuades Robert that he to spruce up the joint before it can possibly be sold. She radiates prickly intelligence and is just radiant in general. There's another subplot involving a kind beautiful divorced restaurant owner, Vallario Boulos Natalia, whom Jack inexplicably charms with his sour attitude. Niessen is. Here in a gruff whisk gorie way, the chief plot mechanism is that Robert and Jack have just never dealt properly with their grief. They must come clean with their feelings before they can move on eventually it happens. But remember we're here from the scenery. Written and directed by James d'arcy who has worked mostly as an actor. This is his directorial debut and shot by cinematographer Mike Ely made in Italy treats us to views of rolling verdant hills and many many delightfully pointy Cyprus trees sunlight the bricks of the decrepit village just so forget cleaning it up almost anybody would be ready to move right in. Visually. Me Didn't Italy is reminiscent of another escape to Italy Romance Audrey, Wells' two thousand three under the Tuscan Sun starring Diane Lane and also featuring Dunkin as these types of fantasies go that movie was as satisfying as a deep sigh made in Italy is less so but remember we came for the scenery and on that score made in Italy as a low cost souvenir of the Tuscan villa dream. So many of US harbor without the headaches of rewiring old electrical systems or fixing broken shudders.

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Episode 158: False Dichotomies and Oral Reciprocity

Very Bad Wizards

1:36:22 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 158: False Dichotomies and Oral Reciprocity

"Very bad. Wizards is a podcast with the Lhasa for my dad and psychologist. Dave Pizarro having an informal discussion about issues and signs and ethics. Please note that the discussion contains bad words that I'm allowed to say and knowing my dad, some very inappropriate jokes. Grist it on a seven. Studied she didn't put the extra Dan instead of half s. Plane. Man. Plan. Reigns. Very. Very good, man. Just to say bad wisit? Welcome to very bad wizards. I'm Tim our summers from the university of Houston. Dave. The actress Michelle Rodriguez defended Liam Niessen saying he can't be racist because of how he kissed viola Davis and you don't make out with the race. You hate not like that by that standard. Are you racist? Bye bye that standard. Unfortunately, I hate most people in the world. I'm not going to go into. I'm not gonna air my my laundry. I gotta say which people you hate. Exactly. No, no. But, but you know in my life experience. I I blame society they set a standard of beauty for me. And especially as like a light skinned Latino male like the the the color ISM that I was just raised with him and trenched into my psyche. You know, I don't endorse it. I don't want it to be my true self. It's just my perhaps, you could call it my system one just acting up. I would call you a light skinned quote unquote Latino, but well, your use of use of quotes is just what did you would say what exactly so what you're doing is essentially the Liam Niessen thing where you're sort of confessing something you're not particularly proud of. But. I try I tried. I just you know, like, I just tried. We'll have enough have tried to to make out with with Valey of all. Oh, really tried to make out. What happened? They just slapped me. Yeah. Yeah. Who are you who are you like why are you walking up? This is turning. I didn't expect it to go this direction, but it's turning into a kind of Harvey Weinstein kind of. It's a no. But there is an interesting discussion. I don't remember we've ever talked about it. I I think that if you ask most people, and they're being they're being honest. I could be I have hard data on this. But I think that people have preferences for particular looks and particular races there is evidence actually from speed dating. Studies. That I think we've mentioned before the question of whether it's racist to prefer one race in terms of sexual attraction is an interesting one to me. And like I wanted to fend people's ability to say that I'm only attracted to say like black men and not call them racist against Asian men. Like, I don't think that equality in. That sense requires that you'd be attracted to everybody. If so then I would be like a like a horrible anti male like like what all the Trump. The drummer is in the woods or worried about. No, the, but I know I totally agree with you. You can't control. What you're and who your tracked it to this is why? So I was reading something. And I forget where and I don't know what extent this is true. But apparently, there's a certain segment of the transgendered community. You know, if someone is a lesbian. They want them to still be attracted someone who just rans Incheon into a woman and transitioning, and they say, it's you transphobic, if you make a distinction, but it's like, I was reading something. She's like, I'm a lesbian like you have like, this, isn't this isn't complicated. Right. And I think that's fine. Like, I defend the lesbians right to not be attracted to someone with the Pena's. And I defend your right only be attracted to like Hitler youth. No people who look like Hitler, not actually. But the Liam Neeson thing, which I know barely about like, I didn't really read too much about it. Like. Think it's fair to say that he was totally being racist. When he did what he did whether or not he is racist. Now, I don't know. But definitely whether or not he kissed black woman is not. It's not like imagine like all those clubs like all those quote unquote, negro clubs that white people used to attend like back in the day. And they they're plenty of white men who totally were attracted to black women and they were still fucking asshole race they were marching marching Dr king. But I do think it does say something about a person if they're willing to not willing even eager to be intimate with a person of a certain race that there's a way in which doesn't obviously say like for sure it's not overriding. It's not absolute that they're not racist. But it's too something. I it it does Bill Burr that he's married to black woman. He makes a lot of sort of race on the borderline kind of you and like. Oh, I think the fact that he's married to a black woman credentials him. So okay. So that's a different claim. But, but but the first one that it's that it's signals something about you. I think it it might. So like, I I grant that it's like information that could be on your side here. But I do also think that it's possible like set aside marriage thing because I think if you're married to somebody from another race and your constantly interacting and your treaty. Like, you're learning things that you might not have known about their experience, that's one thing. But like just say like making out a white man making out the black woman. I don't think that it requires any sense of equality or non-racist. I think that you can fully be racist in in a fundamental sense that doesn't require disgust at at like the physicality of them. I know that some people are racist. Like that old timey white people might say like, oh, they might actually respond with disgust people. But I don't think that it requires it. Now, you might in fact, you could marry somebody and treat them like shit. And there's of course, like horrible ugly history of the slave and the Ray plantation or whatever. But yeah, I keep has a great great song back when he was not making kids movies called horny little devil, which is all about about like Whiteman doing exactly that. And it's actually hilarious really offensive. If you're the kind of white person who thinks that that people shouldn't talk bad about you. But but also really funny says, yeah, I don't. So can we talk one second about Liam Neeson? So here's the thing that I agree that I agree with what you said certainly at that time. I think him talking about it thirty years later is is overall kind of good thing that he would bring it up, and the the, you know, anybody, and I don't know the extent to which this is a huge story and people are wanting to like not see these movies is probably not that big a deal. But to the extent that it is I think it shouldn't be like, that's counterproductive. It's it's yeah. I and I didn't hear like his comments about it. Like if he was talking about like the unfortunate way in which he acted then I think it's actually. I think we don't have enough of those conversations in fact, when I'm talking to students and intra site this and this makes my fellow professors nervous largely white. I when talking about race. I try to defuse the situation by just admitting that ways in which I'm racist. And I feel like that that opens up a little bit. It makes people less defensive like if if somebody's willing to say that they themselves have thoughts or or feelings that are racist. Even though I reject them they exist and actually talking about that. I think is the only way we're gonna get past some of the things ills with society. It's just that very difficult to do. So when. When you don't have a relationship of trust with somebody. Right. And the media is not the kind of trustworthy partner that you want to be talking to about this stuff. Yeah. Social media, also. All right had said system one to give a segue into what we're gonna talk about today. So that you could say yes, so segment to we're going to talk about actually like inspired by a suggestion that didn't make our finalists because we didn't. But it was about this idea of conceptual binary and the degree to which we're wired to see things in terms of binary is and how that plays out in philosophy and psychology. And you found a really good paper about how this is played out in psychology and the problems with that. So that's what we'll talk about in the in the second segment. I we're gonna do our another suggestion moral pet peeves before we even get to that. I know this has been all preludes. But since our last episode, you have you're now like the star the headliner of the Atlantic. Matt Lynch monthly they still call it that the Atlanta. That's right. I'm actually too big for this podcast now. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. There was a really nice article written up by women Kathleen McAuliffe about about disgust in politics. And but I just wanted to give shout out to the graduate students who who did a lot of the work. So you well, and I have been doing this. You'll embar some of you may know him from his from when he used to be a friend of the podcast have been doing this work on political orientation and discussed, but this a couple of grad grad students Benjamin Rouge, she's mentioned in the article, and Roger Anderson who isn't virtually mentioned in the article spearheaded this work, it's on tastes sensitivity, and and political orientation, and it's a really cool finding, but but like as always the professors get the book of the credit and the grad students get a little bit shit on. So for all the grad Rajin, what's his name or roge rot, Raj? Raj ine Anderson. He's he's one of my students. Great great guy. But you know. He's not lead though. Like, that's kind of precious to be named rodgen. His he's half Indian half white, dude. That's okay. I didn't know that. Because I thought Anderson bastard, no Anderson is not an particularly Indian name. I know there are biracial people to him. I'd love to love to be with. No where that one was going to. All right. Let's talk about moral. Thanks for letting me talk about my own shit. But let's talk. Sure. Yeah. So we've come up with some moral pet peeves this was sort of something that you expressed interest in. So maybe talk about why you wanted to. I feel like I'm very very tolerant of people's immorality. So I'm happily friends with people who are shady coin. No have done shit. That's bad not that I endorse it. But like, I don't I think I'm not a judgmental person. But what I realize is that I'm a moralizing person in my everyday life, and that like Bullock of my moral, cognition and emotion comes from everyday interactions with people at like anger me to a degree that is probably well, not probably completely unjustified. And so so I wanted just a chan- like some of these we've mentioned before like, I think like well returning the car should. Turning the car return in the card at the supermarket parking the people who don't do that. I think we both. Agreed. They should be like lined up and shot. Fuck proportionality. Well, no that is. That is lex tally on it. And then last episode we talked about people people who go to the ten items or fewer lion with like twenty items and don't seem to have like like, it'd be one thing if they were turning around and being like, I'm really sorry. I'm in a rush or something. I'd be like fine. Right. It's ages. No, no indication that they've been getting things wrong. Totally shameless. Yeah. Yeah. It's like. It's like. It's so so my moralizing is what led to this to this top, hyper moralizing, but I take it that you do this. I you know, it was harder than I thought to think of this. And I think that like I've been meditating for three and a half years. I think if there's one thing meditating is good for it is not getting as irritated and angry about these kinds of things. Because actually, what am I pep ease was people who talk about meditate. Yeah. I totally get that set. But if you betta -tated, then it wouldn't. Other. I kissed I kissed a girl who meditates. You must not. Meditation. All right. Sorry. One thing is my difficulty was distinguishing between a bad manners. And what might be called him actual moral pet peeve? And I don't know that there's a good line. And I think that part of my problem is blurred line, but we can get right into. No. Yeah. And don't even think about it in terms of binary like that like conventional you wanna start sure. So this this still can get me pretty worked up and furious and yelling, and like when you're with somebody in customer service at a, you know, a big company, and they are telling you that they can't do anything to help. Resolve the issue, and there's telling you that when you know with one hundred percents certainty. They absolutely can that they're just choosing not to and they know that you know, that and it's just a massive insult to your intelligence Dame that they're playing. Exactly like toying with you like your mouse and their cat. I like, I that drives me absolutely crazy. Or like, you realize I could call I could just hang up. Call back get somebody else who for whatever reason just decides that they do want out me like we all know that that's how this works. So like, I hate that. I hate people who insult your intelligence in that kind of release. It is your certainty because you have had it happened before like, how do, you know for sure for sure that they can because like every single time like you get another person who has that same position. And they're able to magically like make your problems go like I do think it is a choice on their part. You know, I don't know what it would entail. But it's a choice on their part. Yeah. Probably. Disincentives to like say credit someone's account like they probably are on this like horrible like spreadsheet about like right much. So that's fine. And so I understand then just tell me that's the deal. Like, I'm not helping you because I already helped to guys today. And like so you sorry just be up front. I can actually take a real setback. If I feel like the people are just being honest with me about what caused it. And what's the deal going forward? Right. Yeah. No. I totally agree with you. The flip side is I've had wonderful discussion. Sometimes like I did on customer service, and like the person who's really nice, and we ended up just shooting the ship while this one time I was on with Verizon, and I don't know what the problem I was having it wasn't about my Bill or anything. I think it was about service or something like that. And. I was just like actually having a fun conversation. And at the end, she was like, sweetie is or anything else. I can help you with today. And I was like, yeah. Like could you just like cover my Bill for the next year and just joking, obviously? And she goes, she started laughing issues. Nobel tell you all credit your account with a hundred dollars. I was like oh. That's what I mean. I think the when they're good people because you have such nightmares cough gas experiences with the ones who are actually really helpful. You feel like they're the best people in the entire. Okay. I'm going to work my way from from east disgusting to most one thing. I hate hate is behavior in airports when you're at the gate and you're waiting for your flight, and there's never obviously enough seats to accommodate the number of people who are on a plane. And so you're just looking for a place to sit and somebody has decided that their bag and their coat require one or two extra seats and you're walking by clearly looking for a place to sit and they don't even make icon ttacked like they don't it's not even entered. They're they're not saving that for anybody. They're just being Dick's or even just like when they have their carry on in the middle of the of the row, and you're trying to get around it, and they're not even. Bothering to move it. Like those little things make traff rival is just like one elect a whole set of minor annoyance. Yeah. Please just be kind to just don't add to them. Like, we're all in this bullshit together. I mean, that's one that I like, I'm like Stockholm syndrome d- too. I just expect it like, I don't expect it to get better. Just. Zayn to well. It's so bad that actually so I I should say that like, I'm sure engage in a lot of the that. I do all of except probably the I've never worked in customer service. Sure, I've done something like that. Right. And sometimes you just genuinely don't notice so I can give people benefit out. All right. My second one is people who don't control I wrote this down and the what I wrote is people who don't control they bradey fucking kits. Did control racist. No, no. I actually think that actually it's the opposite. Like this very common in the white community, probably more. So like it's race. Yeah. I mean, like, I think if anything it's more common like among white. So the actually the example I had was on an airplane. And there's a kid in back of you and the kids just kicking the seat over and over again, and the parents just starting not saying or doing anything, and then also the ones who bring their kids over to your house, and they're yelling. Banging on the piano, and like like making huge messes and just we're both parents like like, we we have some right to complain about this because. Yeah. So allies was kind of angel-. Sure. Sure. Like, so. So it was my daughter, but. Yeah, partly because of what we did. Well, maybe in our parent and our parenting episode. Yeah. We have a big announcement to make. Avenue the break. So. Yeah. Like, and you know on the rare occasions where Elisa did act up in ways that other people suffer like we stop. What was going on like we'd take care of it? Absolutely. Like, there's like a general principle of respecting other people's shit. And when you have kids you bring him over to somebody's house, and they start like touching the TV with their hands or or anything like that might in. You're like are you not noticing this? Right. I think a lot of the parents they're so like DAT noun to they're just did. Yeah. They're like because they have to deal with this all the time and nothing. Yeah. But that's a case where you feel like you can't bring it up because like you're an asshole. If you tell somebody that their kids are behaving could you tell your kid not to like fucking like over my base. I suspect I'm more capable of act. Actually doing that. And just. But you probably your. All right. Mine is puzzling behaviors gross. But. Like taking a shit and not flushing toilet. In a public bathroom. Yeah. This is like one of those things like the flush IRS in public. Restrooms are beautiful feats of engineering. I wish I had that in my home. We have these low flow toilets like sometimes it gets stock and yet, but like one press of that thing, and it's sucking everything down, and I have to walk into like an explosive diarrhea situation or just even a big log like I don't I don't understand is how. How you could just not. Think to flush the like are they just forgetting it seems like a weird thing to forget, you wipe your ass. Presumably and you look at the toilet. You put the toilet paper. There. You look at the toilet. Yeah. You kind of want to review and be like my grad of this or. Should I let someone else this? Yeah. I mean, sometimes it's so beautiful that you don't you? Don't wanna be only person. Whoever gets the see it, you know, picture. That's. Yeah. I know. I know I I didn't put this on because it's not like, but my thing with public bathrooms is the people who go into a stall and piss into the stall. But they leave the toilet seat down. So like how there's just like a bunch of. Yeah. Yeah. And so now you are faced if you're going in there to piss you're faced with the do. I put the toilet seat up even though as peon it or am I going to just also piss into the toilet seat down? Yeah. The the one for the that, you would sit shit, and you know, like I and I've done both. Sometimes I just suck it up, and like, partly I don't want people to think that I'm the one that did that dry. No. I know. No, I play janitor and just like wipe it. But that deep Langer's me. So this is a professional more. But I think it's a moral issue for sure people who when they're giving a lecture presentation when they run overtime, and this is in a call for conference. Yeah. Like when there's like three people in the same session or something. So then it's like horrible. But even if it's just their session, and they were told, you know, forty five minutes, and they're going to an hour and those same people are the ones that are like constantly, shuffling papers. You know? Oh, should I do this part? I don't know. Like, it's it's like did you not prepare for this? Like, you knew we agreed to this like three months ago. Why are you doing this right now? Like, why are you making these decisions as if like somebody told you five minutes beforehand? Hey, you're going to go on to this paper and this amount of time. Go. I I it's guess respect for your audience three. Yeah. And the worst is when they acknowledged laughingly into like, you guys don't mind, right goes mind. If I go a little over I really want to do my I didn't even wanna see the the normal length version of the. Shuffling papers though, because insi- collagen everybody just use PowerPoint. And like nobody actually has a paper. Which makes? But then what they do is they scroll through time these slides. Yeah. I'll do the same principle. I definitely this is my final one. I wasn't sure. Whether to put this on and their conditions to say it to suspend your judgement, you're married. So this might not apply to you not reciprocating oral sex. So my I am of the opinion that if you perform oral sex. That at the very least somebody should mention that. They might do it for you, not just ignore it entirely and just like rest on like on. Oh, cool. Thanks. I feel like there should really some reciprocity. They're just it doesn't mean that you have to maybe you hate giving a Rolex and you love receiving it, which would be totally fine. But then just say that like just give somebody a heads up that you're not just being an asshole. This is sort of like, my customer service thing like just just you know, you could. Wow. Okay. I fear that this is gendered in the opposite way that men are much more reluctant to like, they'll take it all the time and not give it. Yeah. In fact, I'm sure that that's the case. I am pretty sure to I think there's more of an expectation one way in the other. I just that rude this this is this is just the Yuan true reciprocity. Well, I want there to be that I want there to be the politeness of of it least acknowledging if it's not if it's not going to happen like fine. Like, they're people who don't who doing it at doesn't bother me. But like, do you feel a oh you to that information before, you know, no make on spring it on you afterwards? They could spring it on you afterwards. I think that like that just knowledge ING that they're you know, like like, even if somebody said like, hey like in the airport. I know my bag is here. But like, I have something really valuable. I don't wanna put on the floor. Really? Sorry. That'd be fine in the same way. That like saying, hey, man. Thanks. Thanks for like, they were all sex. But just so, you know, like I have like a Agri flex or whatever those not allow me to. Just so, you know, I have no interest. Touch. You. Too much. Plush? We. Fast. But wait a minute. So. I'm trying to just pin down the parameters of this. Like are you talking about like a one night stand? Or is this like even into a relationship? I think that like if it goes unspoken into a relationship. So here's where where like it could happen. It could happen that that one partner really loves doing it. So they always do it to to their partner and because they love doing it. And they love giving their part or pleasure, or maybe it brings them pleasure to do it. They continue to do it. But then it's never mentioned why their partner isn't doing it back. Like, I would worry like dude is like to do I smell bad. Like is it? You know, like is there some reason that like you just continuously nor like my my side of thing. That is hanging there. I feel like it should just be something. That's put put out there. You're the marriage until you tell me how it works as a married person. Is it in the contract? In the things that you sound. Yeah. No. I think that I always wondered what would be that persona where you know, like we finally get in trouble and charges brought against us. And I didn't think it would be the moral pet peeves one. But once last episode. This is like I mean this goes boat. Like goes both ways. There's nothing genuine nothing gendered or about this. Like, you know, it might be a greater problem in the gay male community. I'd love to hear what the norms are there. Like, he's just expected. I don't know. Yeah. Well, we'll question hit us up Email us. Reciprocity. Extend does it matter. If you're kind of like, the Bush one or the yeah. Like are their expectation? Yeah. That if you're the bottom that you're the one who's going to initiate Earl sex like, I I'm actually curious about the general norms and conventions. All right. You know, one thing I was worried about is. That this would just explode into you and me yelling at each other about like, it would just be pet peeves about what the person does. Like, I was trying to think of peeves. I don't think I think that like we pretty much air our grievances. Not that. I probably like the first first bit like there there were things like I'm sure I was passive aggressive about. But like now, I think just tell you fucking kidding me. Dude is gonna do. Yeah. Like where like when we we would just we figured out that it was just better to air out. What we wasn't the problem. But I do remember like twenty four hour periods where I know Davis piston me right now. I absolutely know. And it's coming just be waiting for that, text or that. Then it would come with a vengeance. I remember actually being at you. Because. There was one time where you like got mad at me because you thought I hadn't prepared appropriately. It was like maybe the day before or after noon before we were going to record. And you're like you haven't read the article yet. Now's like I'm gonna read it like just not bad at me. And then I remember just like holding onto that until until the day that you told me that you hadn't prepared just to be like see see that probably didn't take probably it didn't take long for that data. Much better just say say things like like, for instance. This was my way of telling you, you never fucking reciprocates. All right. I'll do I didn't know you felt that way about waiting riv-. Oh job for so long. Like, how does it not into your mind that I might want it to? I thought we had that kind of relationship. Just all right. Yeah. The this is it it was that was our last segment now we're gonna go into our last second segment. We'll be right back to talk about conceptual binary. 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But it was self-deception and parenting does parenting matter and also ethics of parenting. They were kind of flip flopping for a while it was sort of fun to watch. But in the end parenting does parenting matter and parenting ethics is our winner. And that will and maybe we'll get Paul to talk about this. He would be great says this. Right as a genuine developments like just I was rooting for self-deception good. Where are you though? You think you? Yes. Thank you to all of our patrons. And all the people who get in touch with us. And who support us you are what makes us do this at the increasing expense of our other lives and. That's right. All right. So yeah. So this was your idea of for a paper, and a topic that you wanted to get to sooner rather than later. So so tell us about it this start I've griped about this before I'll give a little bit. So the idea is. The broad idea is that we tend to think in in sort of conceptual dichotomies that were. Across many domains time saying in our fields people just like. Theorizing classifying categorizing things into two in psychology. My in area social psychology, the field has been sort of dominated by these dual process theories of of the human mind, and they all have a very similar flavor. Even though the specifics of all of them, very but ever since the seventies people have been proposing that there are two primary ways in which say, cognition works. It's Conon when is it common? The common common wrote the book thinking fast and slow, but is that based on his early work, the type one type two sort of the type one and type two does come from condoms work Katamon into verse key and type one and type it was coined a bit later like in the nineties. But, but yeah, that's one example, right? So be idea there being that there is a mental process that's associated with effort and deliberation, and you know, really really thinking hard about something, and there's processes that are intuitive and fast and autumn attic and unconsciousness controlled and those understanding human judgment. Is. You can understand it as under what conditions people are making judgments specifically for common interest under judgments of under uncertainty like what whether they're stopping to think about it deeply or whether they're just like going with their gut that made its way into moral psychology is any listener of this podcast probably knows. So Josh Greene's view of morality is that when you if you think hard about it, you you become consequentialist. But if you go with your gut your more like a d on tala gist, and that itself, those moral theories are also like those are all the dichotomy is right dichotomies that don't necessarily have to. That's right dichotomy like, even even before like type, one type two theories of persuasion and social psychology that essentially the same thing. So so the question was say Tamla, I want to convince you to stop smoking. Do I present you with a bunch of statistics about how you might die when you smoke or do I give you an ad with like the like an attractive person telling you like don't smoke. I don't smoke either. And so the idea in those theories of persuasion was well, it depends which one works depends on whether you are under the right conditions. Do you have the cognitive resources to think deeply about it? Then the statistics will work, or are you just going with your gut reaction in which case like the celebrity at will work. It's so they've been around for a long time. And they've always just really annoyed me. Right. So and my like, my gripe with it always was that when you divide cognition into two types like Josh green does or or or controversy and you say one is about deliberation. And the other one is about whatever that you're missing out on so much, different psychological and John height. Does this in his original paper the emotional dog, and it's rational tale where when he outlines what system one which is the fast unconscious rate. He says like this category of thinking includes emotions intuitions uncontrollable and unconscious thinking, and all of those things could be very very, psychologically different. In fact, even what kind of emotion is influ. In your judgment. Like, it matters to distinguish which emotion is influencing you, but let's just even take intuition, right? When we use the word intuition, we might mean an intuition that has come from a whole bunch of learning like chessmaster has intuitions about what move to perform next. That's a very very different intuition than one that is like say evolutionary if all say like the resistance to incest, disgust reaction to incest. That's like an emotional response at something that that pro- probably have. So if you care about what the mind is like like, how the mind works to lump everything together in that system. One. I think is is ridiculous. It's doing a disservice. I'll get to maybe a defense of this view later. But like, but it was nice to find this paper. So this is a paper by David Melnikov, and John barge called the mythical number two that tries to sort of take apart. This this style of theorising. I just for people like myself who are generally familiar with this type one type two stuff, but not specifics the and just in terms of this paper. So because it talks a lot about this type one type two distinction, but the, but the idea is that in type one the judgments are unconscious, unintentional, uncontrollable and efficient. Yes, all those four things. And then in the other one it's the opposite. So non of an unofficial controllable conscious and intentional intentional. So and and just the way they start out by saying, look, if you if you even just agree that those are the only kind of those are the proper categories. There's no reason to think that all four of them. Four of them are grew. In one place in four of them are grouped in the other in just two quadrants. Like, there's sixteen possible quadrants six possible. And so why would you think that they would all be grouped together? That's actually a pretty striking claim that you that would need a lot of evidence in support of it. And it doesn't have that. Right. Right. So so it's like sort of a the dual process has just proceeded by largely by an agreement that this assumption was okay. And I have to say John barge, even though he's writing this. Critique he's he's the person who put sort of automatic behavior on the map, he's the name associated with automatic City College. And but that's okay. If this. Yeah, it's great that that he's actually writing this paper. So yeah. And I remember early on before before this system, they call it type one type two, but the comment averse. Sqi ways system wants to. So forgive me. If I float between the two forget. But you know, early on. I remember this when I was talking about these persuasion models. There's one called the elaboration likelihood model by Richard petty, and John Casio, and it seemed like really complicated, right? Has all these boxes and EROs, and it just all boil down to sometimes you think and sometimes you don't like it's like all of these theories boil down to that. And what it means specifically too hard and not think hard and. Like, it took it took such a hold of the field that I remember when I was in grad school, like an edited volume came out that was called dual process theories in social psychology. And I I remember. Being like like, even at that point. This is like why would you categorize theories by the number of things in the theory? It was literally like, hey, the number two seems to pop up across a whole bunch of different theories. Like, let's people together. And right right about the number two has some magic magic hold people. So this article the mythical number two is as you said trying to argue that it is a bad thing to continue to talk about two systems or two types for the very reason that you said because you can have things that are say. Intentional and also automatic which I think is obvious. Right. So so, you know, you learn to drive when I drive I am doing so intentionally, but it's pretty automatic like me turning the steering wheel or shifting gears or whatever they might right? It's almost I don't know you as an outsider, you tell me is. But it's always seemed to me like so obvious that I don't know why took hold like. No. I mean, I think that's right. Like, it's it seems very faith-based like just like a religion where people never really think to questions some of the totally implausible almost insane claims that from the outside it seems like and from the enzyme it's like, no these are starting premises. We've grown up with these like, this is our world. Right. I think that part of it is a result of conceptual sloppiness on the part of social psychologists because I I don't think that it was that that they were so insensitive to the facts of the matter. It's just that they very easily were comfortable with libary definitions of what oughta Matic means, and what unconscious means, and this isn't cited because it was a paper that nobody read but Paul Bloomberg Ullman, and I once wrote a paper called the varieties of unconscious, social, cognition. Where we were trying to point out that like oftentimes are. You you might be there's different kinds of unconscious and the authors of this pointed out to you can be unconscious of the influence that caused you to have a preference say, so like, why do I like coffee? I don't know for all. I know it's because somebody in my youth drink coffee, and I liked them in the smell like made me kind of like it. And that's why I enjoy it now. But I know I like coffee that's not unconscious, right? It's it's not unavailable to me to tell you that. I have this preference for coffee. But, but for some reason, we just as social psychologists started lumping these concepts together and not really questioning questioning what the differences were. And this is like a know like obviously a fan of philosophy. But I think a philosopher would've noticed right away. Well. Like what exactly do you mean by unconscious here? Right. Like, what do you mean that it's completely inaccessible? Do you mean that your unaware of the things that gave rise to this? Like, I see I think you're giving philosophy. I mean, we might have done that about this particular issue. But when you look at moral philosophy and other kinds of philosophy. You find all sorts of similar analogous binary is like just the retributive ISM and utilitarianism in the philosophy of punishment. Like just seemed like the only conceivable approaches to punishment for for very long time. And in the minds of some people still a lot of people still today. And on the margins. People are like, well, there's this kind of retributive ISM and that kind of retributive them, but you're still working within that framework or people who came up with hybrid theories. It's like, yeah. But you're still thinking it has to be part of this and part of that. And you know, that's the that's like the materials that you're working with it's. Yeah. It's what you're allowed to start with, you know, my one of my favorite examples of this is really old, and it goes crosses disciplines, and it's cognition and emotion. And so or reason emotion, and so people ever since at least I started studying emotion grad school. It's just everybody just says, well, we know that they are not cleared. I caught Amies. But then, but then they always proceed to them as an exact. Shrugging off the like acknowledge at some abstract level, the totally over simplification of their model and then go on to use the motto right as if it's not an over simplification actually this analogy that they give and their conclusion, really helpful. So they say like, there are two types of cars convertibles and hardtops, and that's true. Not no problem there. And then we also say there's automatic and manual transmission? Yep. That's right, gasoline and electric Motors and hybrids, foreign and domestic, and then he says the point is that these are all different types of cars. We know that it's not just two types of cars at all convertibles have manual transmission, gasoline engines, manufactured overseas and hardtops that have automatic like. But that's imagine having theory of cars that just thought that all of those that there were only two types of cars. And can you imagine group that has that for features? And this group has that for features. Imagine like a thousand papers on like convertibles versa hardtops and being like, well, you know, sometimes we find a difference in sometimes we don't, and it's like really like, you know, sometimes we find that they both can travel at the same speed. And who knows why this is a deep mystery for for the future of the study of cars further research should investigate. The model. I mean, we know that it's sightly oversimplifying to say that there's only two types of cars, but anyway. We tried you open up a electric cars science. We cracked open a hard top. And we put a cloth over it. And it's still the same. It was weird. It was very very weird. Like, it was failed experiment, but thankfully, open science allows us to to report nonsignificant results. So so what you could say is that? Well, cognition is a separate thing from emotion. It's just that. Sometimes when we're talking about emotion, we're not realizing that cognition is also coming along for the ride. Okay, fine. But you're still embracing the dichotomy you're still saying these are two things are two ingredients. And it just turns out that when you use one ingredient the other one like either necessarily has to come along or just contingently comes along. But but people would say like there is no just cleared things in between cognition emotion. Then it's like, well, then fuck. Stop saying, cognition and emotion like come up with another. Cog motion. I don't know if you really believe that there's no distinction. It's hard to overemphasize how much these kinds of dichotomies and distinctions are at the roots. The core the foundation of the research that is being done like so really questioning them is is questioning something pretty foundational. You're really bringing the house down. If you start to challenge this, which is probably another reason why. You're at the center of your closer to the center of that Quentin web of belief that people would like because the quite in web. You know, where it's like there's certain things core beliefs that if you if you challenge those it'll destroy all your beliefs, your whole beliefs, and then there's ones on the fringe where if you change your mind about those it doesn't really affect that much of the rest of the web. But if you go in the center of the web like the whole web comes apart and run you have to start all over centrally. Right. Right. And so I can't overemphasize how much the common diverse ski and others the judgment decision. Making folks how much that system wants them to has influenced not jests the field, but applied work the work. The government is doing work read, even I do in in like consulting. And it's that is the core. Dea there is the look we have a number of Hurace deke's that we use the shortcuts to thinking that that we use them. So that's what comment to prescribe famously introduced or at least popularized a catalog of Heure six which are just mental shortcuts. And the idea was always that. Hey, your your mind. You know, we have a limited set of we have a limited amount of cognitive resources. We can't think deeply about every single decision. We make so perhaps what has evolved or maybe we've learned are are these just general rules to help us avoid making having deliberate. Everytime. We make a decision so think something like a stereotype would be a heuristic all all kinds of these Hurace ticks that influence our judgment that are autumn attic, and they're quick. And the reason that we have them is because they work. On average. But the key message is that they lead to air. So they lead to bias so content of her ski career was built on showing under what conditions you could show the people fuck up really badly by relying on these here six and so the goal which is not a bad goal like say for public policy. Like, why do people do by do people make bad decisions about savings or about whatever organ donation, or whatever it's because they're relying on these heuristic? So if only we can get people to use them to that deliberate process, then maybe we can stop people for making errors. And that's exactly what say Josh green believes about consequentialist them. Right. If only we could get people to stop going with their gut. We get them to realize that consequential ISM is is the right is the right theory to to endorse right on Josh Greene's view the evidence against Dion logical judgments is. Is the fact that we make them unconsciously automatically, or at least that's part that some of the evidence against them. And we've evolved to do it. And there's that whole element of it. But that's the idea is if this comes from this automatic Hurace stick that we have to save cognitive resources. Then that gives us reason to doubt the truth of it. Right. And interestingly like what got lost along the way. Was the claim that that the heuristic? Often do lead to true judgments, right? Like, that's why they exist. And so so like that there is nothing that is inherent in the process of applying here stick that. That means that it's wrong. Right. It could be truth tracking. Like, you know, it's a different set of evidence to show when it's right in one. It's wrong and the flip side, which they described very well in this paper a lot of the time when we're reasoning and deliberating we're very prone to make errors because there's all sorts of things like. Reasoning errors motivated reasoning all sorts of different ways in which we can convince ourselves of belief that it's true using our reason, but we won't think of it that way, we'll think of it as we are deliberating using this using our our reason capacities towards the truth. When in fact, that's not what we're doing. Right. There's somehow got completed that the process of deliberation is a is a kin or equal to valid reasoning. And then that's just not as obviously not the case. And like we've talked many times on this podcast about like the stuff on motivated reasoning that when when you get people who are especially good at reasoning they're able they're able to convince themselves better that they're there. Right. So bias is actually accentuated not attenuated. So like, I'm convinced by the paper. That we should abandon this. And I think the oversell how much people disagree with. I think that like a law a lot of people are really dissatisfied with this dichotomy in theory. It's just that in this get us to the next topic. It's hard to think of things in like sixteen cells versus. Yeah. Right. It's harder. And so I don't, you know, this is always been my fear about psychology that if you really wanna understand why for instance, we make the judgements that we do we're gonna need to understand interactions between like fifty different variables. And at that point like only a computer will be able to to like figure out the underlying principles if there are any of our judgment, but I've been living in this world of experimental social psychology where best you have like what we call a two by two designed four cells. So you say like, I gave people coffee versus didn't. And I gave them an easy versus a hard test. And then I put up a graph, and it's really really easy to grop because it's just like okay to here to here. I can see the interaction, and that just I just don't think that that can be getting us very far in that corresponds. Yes. Graphs, you know, axes, and like there's all everything like our our methods and our tools are designed for things to be in in twos. And that could just not be the way the world works like I've been looking for people to commiserate about this for for a long time now, and I'll never forget one of my favorite quotes from from a colleague of mine impute Winkelmann who is at UC San Diego like fourteen years ago. I remember because my wife at the time was pregnant I'm talking to him about my dissatisfaction with this. And he's just thinking about it. And he's like sort of tapping his cheek with his fingers like looking away. And I'm like, oh, he's he's a smart guy. He's going to say he's going to really school me. And he goes. Yes. I mean, what if there are five things? So let's let's let's divide the rest of the guys into two parts. I actually didn't even mean that. So the first is like a possible defensive what people are doing which I think you gestured we should talk about. And I haven't I idea about that. And the second is where do we go from here? You know, once we recognize Mike quick defense is that when you're doing say, you are doing applied work where you're trying to get people to make better judgments so better judgments about how they handle their finances about how they make choices about about what to purchase maybe even how they make choices about who to date, and you have evidence that people systematically make these errors that even they themselves realize, our heirs and say that you show that if you give them the opportunity to really think about it that they can correct. Those errors then you might be able you can deploy this theory not as. As a deep theory about how the mind works. But rather as a surface pragmatic theory about how to correct judgment under certain circumstances. So if I if I know for fact, for instance, there's a lot of good work on on poverty by elder severe one of the things that he points out is that. Just being financially burdened. And I think we've both been there you're under a lot of stress a lot of pressure and under those circumstances. So a lot of say single parents, right? One of the reasons that they don't even open a Bank account is that they don't have time. They don't have the ability to set their kids aside to go to the Bank to talk about opening up. Yeah. Yeah. And and even the stress and the pressure of knowing that you're you're gonna overdraft like your check isn't gonna clear that's like an incredible amount of of what we would call cognitive load. But which just means there's a lot of shit on your mind that you can't handle. And so you're other decisions might suffer. So if if you really want to understand maybe the conditions under which you can maximize. Good decisions, but not all of them. But at least some of them, then then using a dichotomy might actually be fine. Like, it might actually be the case that if Salang as you specify under which conditions thinking hard about something might lead to a better life. Then you can go ahead and try to plan interventions for that. But that's that's an applied theory and not one that's discovering new things about the mind. It's just helping fix a problem. It's more of an engineering problem than it is a psychology psychology theory. So that doesn't seem to me to be defense of what's happened. Given the debts not how this. Kadhamy has out braided more away a productive way of possibly taking some of those ideas. And right like, and I actually fear that the thing that I just said is what a lot of people have in mind, but that crept its way into a true descriptive theory about the mind, I think that there was some some somewhere it actually like made people think that this is this is the right way of understanding how judgment works in general. And I think that that's that's right. So it's a it's a real tepid defense. It's only very specifically do I think that maybe it's useful. Yeah. So here's my defence very qualified. And I'm not sure if I buy it. But so here's an good example of dichotomy and philosophy. That's just really weird that so compatible ISM income. Paddle them about free hill, and moral responsibility. It's just weird that the camps got divided into those two things where libertarians are lumped with skeptics and compatible as you know, like a compatible it's like Daniel, Dan, it is lumped with straw sin. And so that I mean, it's just a silly and bizarre way for that debate to have been shaped up. But maybe the defense is look we had to start somewhere we had to find a way of talking about this. And we can't start out with an increase like a massive massively complex top allergy. Then we'll just never go anywhere by starting with this kind of framework that allowed us to tease out distinctions and all sorts of ways in which you know, the different theories can be formed in the straw. Sonian? Compatible ISM is different from you know, Frankfurt's. Palpable ISM or Susan wolves kind of compatible as and and but but the dichotomy as sort of silly over-simplistic as it may look to us now was necessary to get us thinking about this in more complex ways. Maybe an and it's like do I reject or accept ecotourism? Right. I mean because we were posed with that question how we can make real progress home conscious. I just want to report that you. I almost got us bit take out of temblor. Yeah. No that's interesting because I think like here's what might be going on say say, we just really have the desire to think in twos. And then you keep it's just essentially like a growing chart exponentially. And I think just social logically. The problem is that now you have like sixty four different positions. But most people are talking to each other about the the one versus the other, and there's really hard to integrate any of this stuff into like a general theory. And you know, what honestly if somebody did write an article about the sixty four varieties of non cognitive ISM. I'd be like. I'll reciprocate though. That's fun. Don't wanna have to read that paper. Either you will. So you painted that? Could just lick it once. All sorts complex shadings. That's right. If you use mostly hand and a little bit of mouth is that oral sex. Yeah. So I don't think it's a limited in our in our abilities. I think we can represent like just like, you know, they do in this paper, you can represent sixteen different ways of thinking of the mind. I just fear that people always fall back on on the to say exactly like as you were saying sort of jokingly. Well, yeah. Yeah. I know, but like for now like, let's just think of this. Well, this is an intervention paper, though, the way they're doing it is to critique, it isn't a is to critique certain way viewing the challenge will be now trying to take this more complex map and create some better framework or our way of about them. I yeah. Right. So you know, I mean, I took it a little bit is about claim to say like, let's look at these sixteen. They review research that has has separated these processes, no. But that's what I mean. But it's a critical way like to show. Hey, look, you can be intention of intentional and it's not an unconscious. It can be whatever the various radiations they come up with. But. That's not part of a larger theory. That's show that your theory is false. It's there. But but but also providing a positive description of how the mind works. But you're right. It is in an attempted to show that this dual press is wrong. I wanted to say actually, it reminds reminds me of something that that I didn't talk about which is there's always been in social psychology really dominant set of theories about attribution where the question is. All right. Tim you behave in a certain way. Like, what do I in for from your behavior? Right. So you bumped into me are you an asshole or not? And so. The distinction that people have always made his something like what was it situational or disposition that is did it emanate from your disposition or was it just a product of the external forces working on on your antigens, Stanford prison experiment, exactly right situation. Or was it? The fact that they were brutal people. Yeah. And social psychologists just not over this kind of distinction. And I remember feeling that like it really broke down when when I was trying to study moral judgment. And I was studying how people make inferences about emotional actions. So say that you. You donated to charity because you were so overcome with emotion when you saw commercial of starving children that you gave money like is that a situational force. Or is it a disposition force? Like, it's pretty clear that it's both right. It's not it doesn't like an emotion can generate from the kind of person that you are like you're the kind of person who is moved by by this, and these are distinctions that philosophers have made for a long time and yet social psychology still like like reviewers would be like I feel like it's situational versus positional. That's so I totally agree. And I certainly have. I used to teach section on situation as them. And I was you know, and again that thing of now, I know obviously, there's a little bit of both. So you do a little hand wavy stuff to to say that you acknowledge that this is a spectrum, and you know. But then you then like immediately forget it. Here's another kind of thing. And I wanted to ask you about this because I was just commenting on a paper that was saying that like the emotion anger has a behavioral. That's the action tendency tendency. Yeah, action tendency so anger people want to punish make suffer engage in acts of retribution. So whenever you're angry. That is. And I just couldn't believe that. Now, I might be wrong. Maybe I am wrong. I couldn't believe that that psychologists really believed that like there's so many different kinds of anger, and there's a lot of times where your anger angry. And you don't want to hurt the person. You don't want to like them to suffer in any way. You don't want like even to feel guilty. You just are pissed off. And maybe you want something to change or maybe you want them to acknowledge something or maybe, you know, you want them to apologize. But right say that there's. Only one action tendency, I something like anger seemed crazy to me. And like there there is there's a lot of that. That is is you know, somebody. Spelling out like the prototypical kind of emotional response like fear makes you want to run away. But obviously, that's also not not always the case. And I think that this is there is this sort of self perpetuating thing where you then bring people into the lab and do an experiment where you piss somebody off, and you show that they are actually more likely to be mean to somebody else. And you say this is evidence that the action tendency for anger is to punish. But you haven't bothered to test a different kind of anger, right? You've been so driven by by this view that. You haven't actually even thought of the variety of ways in which you could test this at Lisa film in Barrett. Actually, she she's really opposed to this view of emotion. She says even something like fear. We we think of a prototypical instance, like, you know, you're in the fucking savannah, and you see a line, right? That's like we think of is fear, and she points out that there's so many different kinds of fear experiences that I think maybe she takes too far. But but because she she argues that may maybe this is just pure purely arbitrary that we lump all of them together under a certain word. But I do take her point that it masks differences to use only one word, right, right? Just in the same way that calling something system one will mask differences because you've lumped into one word, and and like the way that this gets embedded. So let's say you wanna find out if somebody's angry, but you can't test their anger because so you'll so you'll maybe give them a questionnaire that says that they wanna punish somebody. And then you'll infer from that that they're angry. But because you've established that link so you're like, oh, well, the two things go together. So like if you can show one that's a sign that they have the other. And then now like, you know, like, you're you know, that's kinda stuff gets done all the time. I know that you probably won't get this reference because you don't watch Seinfeld. But there is a whole there is up sewed where on-call Leo who's jers. Jerry's uncle burns off. His eyebrows. And Elaine is trying to sneak into his doctor's appointment because she can't get it appointment and she paints eyebrows on him. But the way that she paints them makes it makes him look like he's making an anger face. When the doctor comes in. He's like Leo calmed down. Like he's like what you're talking about. He's like Leo why? Exactly what the presence of superficial feature does not indicate. Try that. Yeah. No. Like, there's a there's a different way in which sometimes what these people who talk about action tendencies are are often appraisal theories. So so they think that there are some judgements that give rise to emotion. So what it means to be angry is that you feel that somebody has done a blameworthy thing. So you feel that they had control over what they did. And it was harmful to you. And that that sometimes they blur the line between just what anger means like what what we generally take the the sentiment. Anger to be describing. And empirical finding which when I angered somebody because you have to make a conceptual definition or else like how how do I angry somebody? So so yeah. Like, I. It is problematic across a number of. Number fields. And I'm sure it's true like history or political theory. There's probably a lot of this these kinds of dichotomies that are blurring things. And you know, I think the question is whether it's more helpful than harmful. I think they're probably times where it's helpful. But there are times where it's it's masking important distinctions that then just multiply like Nair your linking this phenomenon with a different kind of nomin. And you know, the the oversimplifications are multiplying to the point where you're just not. You're you're no closer to understanding the thing that you're trying to understand then you were before you even started any of this research. Right. That's that's depressing inclusion, but, but it might be our with some with some things, you know. Yeah. So so like why? So why are we like this? I think. A trivial answer to why we dichotomy is. But then there's maybe more interesting ones. Like, it's easy. That's the simple. The simplest answer. Is that that it's just very very easy to think about two things. And and maybe there's a more interesting an interesting body of research about numeracy. That you might be familiar with. But but the idea is that. Both some human cultures. Early at least early human cultures as well. And even infants and some animals that they their their their ability to track numbers, very limited. That is they don't they don't have numbers took human beings a long time to invent like enters but people are able to track. One too many in some cases, one two three and many, and and that doesn't seem to require anything like a complex numerical system. That's just sort of like our brains are capable of that without any without any real training. And so it makes sense that that we would Fave were the numbers two and three, you know, pop up all over the place. Like, this is something deeply embedded in us. I think the other reason is often many of the important decisions. We would have made our dichotomies. So like you have to decide whether or not to do something. Right. And so like, take good and bad. I was talking recently to Molly Crockett, she came give talk here, and she was talking about inferences moral inferences about people some of the work that I did with her to like we tend to categorize people as good or bad. And we do it really easily. And we do it a lot. And the question. I was asking is like it's it's weird. We both study this, and we both know that people do this. But like, it's also obviously true that nobody is either all good or all bad like there's no such thing as just a true villain or not. And we're talking about, you know, if if the decision really is do I want to cooperate with you? Like I have to boil it down to a dichotomy decision either. Yes, or no and categorizing people into yeses and nos might actually be very very efficient way of maintaining sort of this the your ability to to get gather resources from other people as you do have to make decisions otherwise he'd be paralyzed. Yeah. The analogy that I that. I really like I think I've brought this up before there's a website. I think called umbrella or not to have I brought this up before many many times, it's probably edited out every single time every single time. But in this case donated up because it is an exactly right kind of analogy for why dichotomies reasoning is important because it's hard to know what it means when it says thirty five percent chance of rain or seventy percent, chance of rain. All I wanna know is like do I take an? Umbrella or not that's like this is the decision that I have to make is very hard for you and beings to process that well on these kind of days seventy percent of the time it rained. Like, what do I care just tell me whether or not like to work, you know, fucking raincoat. And I, and I think that I probably said this to but maybe I had this out to. But like this is the thing that drives Nate silver crazy like when he says like Hillary seventy percent chance of winning or like people just took that as a one hundred percent. And so there was like you got it wrong. It's like, no, I didn't like three ten times of this is what would happen, of course, deliver. You're just backing off your claim. It's funny. It's funny. We are. We don't understand it. And I sometimes I don't understand what it means. Somebody a thirty percent chance of winning and such a one time event. Too hard. It's like it's actually kind of meaningless like like what it means. Is overtime. Exactly what it means is over time. And for a lot of things, especially those things that are just a single event. It's hard to then sort of out of your out. That's why it's good to have rules like when you're playing twenty one blackjack, right, right? You know, that it's probabilistic you know, that if you have a sixteen like you may or may not win. But like to have a rule that keeps you in check. So that over time you do better like the rule is a dichotomy one. It's like people treated almost as just like absolute truth. Like, no, you never hit on whatever seventeen or something. Yeah. So it is important for that. And then it really probably just depends on the case. Whether it does more harm than good to divide. Things up in a certain way. Like, I think in the punishment debate is probably done more harm than good that it immediately got divided into these two kinds of approaches to the expense of all sorts of other possible ways. And also, you know in ways that are are masking how criminal Justice really works. Unlike what is actually going on which has nothing to do with this simple dichotomy of are we putting you and a retributive way or utilitarian way. And so, but people think of punishment that way, and that's been really harmful. But in other cases, maybe it's been helpful first step to divide things up. Pretty neatly may be compatible as incompatible with like this where it's actually it was a necessary way to try to wrap our heads around in a mentally complex problem to just start out with something. And then. With that framework. Start to tease out the complexities. The way your field is like that. Right. The way the way that like the analogy that comes to my head is like suppose that you have a big pile of like a bunch of different things. I say lay goes you wanna organize them. It's not unreasonable to start with like, okay, I'm gonna just least my ipad going to separate like the the big blocks from the little ones right like, and so you start there. So that you can then refined because that actually might save you time. Right. If you have to make if you have to make a decision about whether this is one of eight things like that might actually take you a longer time than if you say to than to than to to right? But I agree with you that it's stifles innovation and creativity to rely on just I caught him as categories because there's always the possibility you bring punishment. But you know, I think in a lot of cases it just leads people to nor what might be staring them. In the face, which is that there is a richness to to the world or to the conceptual world that is being completely ignored because of reliance on these categories. I mean until like that analogy the cars if for some reason people had grouped two types of cars, convertible, man, you know, the ones that are convertible and manual and American and. Gasoline versus electric foreign and whatever, but that wouldn't have been helpful at all like that would have been in any further research on cars, and classifying cars would have just been completely corrupted by that just arbitrary. Way of grouping them. And yet, you know. So like that really would have been a just something that distorted your understanding of cars, not something that was a first step towards understanding cars better. Right. It's hard to know when when it's been when it's an arbitrary classification lets you do a little bit more digging to find like is there any is there anything that is generating this dichotomy that I bring this has this is a gasoline car. So we can infer from that that it's also a hard top car. And listen, we run this experiment about how tired top cars. We'll just say. This is true of gasoline cars, it would just be like it would. And then that now that's your established finding gasoline cars have this feature because your hard top that they ran on that feature and you make you a lot of work. So it makes it seem like, you're progressing. I think what's happened into a process. There is of the mind. Like, you you catalog all this work that you've been doing you're like, no like, you know, like we're moving beyond just these two. But like, we're making progress don't worry. And it's like, no, you could actually be completely fucking it up. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like this. I guess it's whether it's at the core of the web or at the fringe lake it could be at the core with dual classes stuff, and if it's that then this whole edifice comes tumbling down of results and findings and because they've been relying on that that that dichotomy right and on their experiments, and then confirmation bias kicks in you know, and it really hard to discard to discard that feature of a theory. Lesson. I was gonna say is that like I think that thinking in dichotomies at some point in the history of humanity. Just was much like it was fine for a lot of things could just be that the world was such that dichotomies decisions dominated. And so we weren't making dumb mistakes all the time. But now like the world is so complex, and there's so many things that are actually, you know, they're multiple everything has multiple attributes a lot of them, which are continuous as just really hard to to come up with with like how to evaluate the stuff is why like the websites like the wire cutter have you ever been on the wire cutter? Now, like all if you basically if you want to know what the best air purifier. Is it just tells you it's just by this one, right? It doesn't like list all of them and give them ratings because it's a great idea. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I need definitely gonna go to that. Yeah. I I mean, there's a couple. So it could just be that we have these blinkered lenses on now. And we're to deep in to do anything about it. You know, we could start being like contents and start to think, no. This is our conceptual way of understanding like this is our conceptual framework that and so it's transcendental true of like because these are categories or something like, but in terms really understanding it the way we like to think it could it could literally be that. That's not like, we're not capable of at this point fixing this this the truth will come from from machines algorithms, and we'll just be slaves to the to the truth that they're tracking. I fell be right more. They more often than not like now, we're relying on models to predict. That way do way way better than than human judgement, and this is like compensated for their time. But when we get back to the question of Justice and punishment into legal system. And we talk about the role of machines in in actually making decisions say about parole. I I wonder if you'll be more open to to an algorithm that can take into account a lot more information to generate an optimal judgment. Well, we will see. All right. We've been going on to join us next time on very bad with it. Man. Plan. Brings than you. Anybody can have. Very. Man, just say wisit.

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Cold Pursuit Spoiler Review

Collider Movie Talk

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Cold Pursuit Spoiler Review

"The following program is brought to you by your friends at podcast one. Don't forget to download our new podcast one out. The all new Toyota Raffour four asks what if what is your ride was refined Rudman at the same time. Introducing a car that's got style and substance to spare the all new wrath four limited featuring a sophisticated muscular new exterior and available options. Like a premium JV allowed ecosystem and panoramic roof, the all new raft. Ford LTd, Toyota, let's go places JBL and clarifier registered trademarks of Harman international industries, Inc. A lot of fans. John rocca. Jeff Snyder back for another movie review your loved art glass want. So we thought we jump on top of another film this one starring Liam Neeson another one of his like revenge films that he's been experiencing here in this later part of his career. This one is called cold for suit not frigid chase. As Matt knows and likes to call the Jeff we went saw the sidelines goods green room. What's your overall feeling about this movie, man? This is spoiler discussion. Letting spoil in the movie stabbed now, go see and come back, and we'll talk about a Jeff I was disappointed over. I thought it started out strong. Yeah. I'd seen the original with still on scars. It's from the same director. Peter Molin, Hans better Mohan, who's a really talented directorate and did this movie the beautiful country in two thousand and four that I loved, but he's sort of following in the footsteps of these guys like Georgia sloughs ear who did the vanishing who made his own movie. And then ole Ola born doll who did Nightwatch as well. You know, these these foreign directors are asked to remake their own films. And I just really preferred the original. What's dent Lon scars guard? I thought that Liam Niessen was miscast here because it's about the super nice like family guy. He's citizen of the year. And then he's pushed to you know, to his breaking point to avenge, a family member's death, and to me Liam Neeson Yardley expect him to kill everybody in the room. So that transformation? I just didn't buy. Yeah. Absolutely. I initially I was in for the first half an hour forty five minutes, but then slowly the film started to take like make too many jokes at other things other expenses. And I felt the humor was off the offbeat just didn't feel harass. Putting putting the original has this dark like pitch black sense of humor. And you, and you sense it just because anytime anybody dies in the movie, there's like title card comes up with their name and their religious affiliation. Everything and it is it's kind of like this tongue in cheek. And and it's and it's funny. But here the humor just didn't translate particularly. Some of the ebonic stuff. What do you think of that stuff? Yeah. Yeah. That was my problem. You know, and we got we would be remiss not to mention Liam Neeson's recent comments in these interviews that he's given about how when he was younger and his friend was raped. She told him that it was a black guy. And he asked what color the gentleman was. She said it was a black guy. And then he went looking to hurt a black guy. Whether it was the guy who did it or not it didn't matter to them late on the interview, he said, it was teaching himself to realize how deep into the whole he could go and never wanted to go back there again. But you look at this combined with the black character in this movie, the eskimo, and you're just like what the one black character in this movie is a guy who speaks the, you know, they make fun of his speech patterns calling the bonnet that he has no code. He has no respect or courtesy. And that he's willing to betray anybody. And he's from the hood. I like it was so tone deaf that I was shocked that there was happening. It just wasn't necessary. There are couple of things in this film that just felt unnecessary. Like, the cancelling of Laura Dern, kind of disappears after the first act, the most appropriate frigging instance, I've ever seen because is out in the cold there. There's actually a pair of gay characters in this movie out. You'll never you'll never guess who they are. But it's like it's such a random moment. Like, I guess it's nice to see you know, that not all henchmen are great and heterosexual at the same time. Like, what was the point of this little insert? You know, what did you think of the actual action because people are going to they're going to buy their ticket because they wanna see Liam these and kill a bunch of guys. So I think of the action and that kind of stuff I certainly was onboard with someone with a lot of the action with him physically beating people up and then killing them in the running gag of throwing them into the gorge in the water wrapped in chicken wire. I enjoyed that of it all, but then eventually just became like, you got confused about who's who's the protagonist in this film because eventually it starts out Liam Neeson. But then eventually it becomes the navy. Guy was in the drug dealer there white bowl. I think his name is. And he he he's now the person that you're supposed to be following. So the action is good. But at it's unearned as the film goes along. That's my issue with it overall in that way. Right. I think the the the original Turkish like criminal, and then the Serbian mafia, and like, so so then element always sort of existed that that this guy is sort of pitting, you know, one group against the other and taking advantage of it. But yeah, it leads to this big climactic shootout at the end, and to me, it was totally unsatisfying because the person who, you know, lean is trying to get revenge on tire movie. He he's not ultimately the one who dispatches. There's no it isn't. And it's it's because the the main guy that's Trevor Viking Calcutta. That's Tom Bateman the actor playing the main villain. He kills white ball, son. And so white ball now has this desire to kill him. And where Niessen son had been killed. I in innocent son had been. Killed at least white bull son is a drug runner. He didn't get the chance to kill the main villain. So to me the swerve wasn't earned. It wasn't worth it. And in the end it self felt unsatisfactory to me. It bothered me a lot. Yeah. Satisfying rather than there was a lot of missed opportunities. I think in this film. It did start out strong. And it does have an interesting premise, and it is a little bit different than than what we've seen of Liam Niessen in the past. But like even the cops, you know, there's the subset EMMY Rossum and John donne who by the way, I thought it was d- Norse frilly verse twenty minutes of the movie. Jesse? And the cops really don't have any role to play in this at the end. They don't solve anything. Don't stop anything. They're kinda just there. This movie is two hours long probably could have been cut by twenty minutes, really easily and the villain. I didn't like Tom Bateman. It was like such a weird kind of caricature of a villain. Some of the this guy would be a drug dealer in charge of people. They'd laugh this guy out of the out of the room, and he came in they getting up in people's faces and to think a relationship with the wife was really weird and his wife, the white is native American, and yet he does I think that he doesn't like that never factors into the situation as the film goes along even though his main villa or competition is a native American. They were business partners business partners. Right. And then there's everything with the sun, not not just Liam Neeson. But you know, who is only in the movie for several minutes of the inciting incident if you will be Viking Sun. I kinda like the stuff with Liam Easson. And the boy has some funny lines particularly with dumping lumber dozy from from entourage. And Ray Donovan, but altogether. It's just like this souffle that just tastes sour. Yeah. Yeah. And I went in wanting to enjoy this thing. I'd heard great reviews. I'm a massively Liam Neeson phantoms of the moves. He's been doing. So I wanted to go in and see another like man type revenge movie, you know, but at some point you have to be like, well, there's no character development here. And I know I get it. It's a revenge film. You're not supposed to look for too much. But in two thousand nineteen why cast Laura Dern, if you're just going to ever MOU, you give her nothing to do. And she supposedly so in love with this man and is standing by him as he wins citizen of the year. But they lose their son. And all of a sudden because he doesn't talk to her a couple times coming home. She leaves barely any grieving barely an agreement between the parents, he's ready to kill himself immediately. I didn't either put a gun in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Like blaming himself. And then you know, there's this young actor. I like I like Gus however is his name. He was in goat. Which should I'll see he's like the guy John that was like so stupid. There was too much. It almost felt like, you know, like the scene in the Halloween reboot where they're talking about the sandwiches. The Vietnamese it seemed like there was. It seemed like it was like too much of that multiple scenes like that. And it's all in attempt to give this movie a little bit of humorous edge. But it didn't it didn't work. I think the tongue was so deep into the cheek that you bet it off. That's what it felt like to me this movie was so deep in that eventually just bid it off without knowing and you know, an hour almost over to Jefferson was like if I go home. What do I lose here? So it was just frustrating. How it could have been great. And I think there's probably a lot of people who will in who might enjoy this film. But I just wanted to more character development, especially when you're dealing with the native American drug, there's they're randomly smoking and getting high and they make a reservation joke. I just was so confused. You don't have the characters which I I don't think John wick is a particularly developed character. But that's a developed world. Yes. Fleshed out world and the action scenes make up for the fact that you know, you don't have a lot of character development. There's nothing like that. Here Hans Petter Mon is not an action director. I think he's actually a really thoughtful dramatic director. But the some of this stuff is just outside of his. Yeah. His toolbox. This is reminiscent with John. Woo tries to do the American version of his Asian films. Don't really transfer over most of the time. This feels the same way here. It's a can't recommend from the Miami me to what your score I wanted to ten. What do you wanna give it ten? I mean, it's it's it is strangely. Watchable? I'd give it like a five probably gonna find. I give it a little higher like a six six and a half something like that. Because enough of it interested me to the first forty five minutes to an hour. And then I just completely got. And it's a two hour in a horrible horrible move or something like that? It's just yeah. It's it's a swing intimate. It's more the potential fallible helpful there, you go. There you go go see his original one the two thousand fourteen Norwegian throw find it's called in order of disappearance. Maybe that's the one you'll enjoy more than coal pursuit. Thanks for watching this review on collateral. Remember like insure this video on your social media. You could find Jeff Snyder at the insider, find me at the Rocca says and subscribe here leaving leave your comments, which you think about the movie which about a review, I'm very up to here. Yeah. Take care. Wherever you go. However, you go for energy on the go. It's got to be five hour energy it works fast. It works long. It tastes good and was hero sugar and four calories. There's nothing holding you back fits your pocket fits your backpack. Fits your on the life. Whether you're going to work going on vacation or just going out with friends five hour energy energy on the go. For more information. Visit five hour energy dot com. Virginia's political mess. I'm Tim Maguire the AP news for Jinyan. Governor Ralph Northam tells top staffers he will not resign amid the furor over a racist photo on his medical school yearbook page Richmond resident are now Carruthers says northern should stay. I don't believe in my heart that he is racist. Meanwhile, a second woman accuses Lieutenant governor Justin Fairfax a sexual assault when they were both students at Duke University. 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Ep. 121 Honest Thief Review

Plaza Podcast

22:14 min | Last month

Ep. 121 Honest Thief Review

"Welcome to the film Fanatics podcast episode 121. I'm your host Chris and in today's episode. We will be going over and reviewing Liam Neeson's new movie Honest Thief. But before we do, let's kind of get a little caught up kind of what's been going on. I I haven't produced the movie Up movie. I have not produced an episode in a probably about a week or a little bit more. I know the last episode was about where everybody was out why no one was coming to the movies package. Am I want to thank I could be completely wrong, but I want to thank my episode kind of woke some people up because this past week here at our local theater. It has been a little bit busier than it normally has so that was really cool. I don't know if it was particular because of the episode, but I'm still going to take credit for it off. Also with the local people that listen and come to the local theater. We have a little little gift for you at the end of the episode something that you might be interested. So stay tuned toward the end of the episode to hear what that is. Okay now let's get into this review. I'm not going to talk about it too much not going to try to spoil any try not to spoil anything, but I'm just going to kind of give you some of my bits and pieces on what I thought about this movie any you know things that I like things that I didn't like there's one thing in particular that I do want to pick at but it could also be justified too. So you might want to you know, stay you know, you want to see what I want and not everyone's opinion whenever y'all see this movie if you feel the same way, but first thing it's it's got a pretty solid cast Liam Neeson. Obviously Kate Walsh Robert Patrick always good. So so basically he is a professional bank robber that's robbed tons of Banks and he has probably about 9 million phone stolen, but he has not spent a single Cent spend a single dollar of that. He finds Kate Walsh his character Annie he falls in love. He wants to make amends and he's wrong. To turn himself in and no one apparently at the FBI believes him because there have been a lot of people that have said that they are that Bangkok which they called him the in-and-out bank robber or in and out Robert and and and have claimed that that's who they they are. So in a way they just think it's another month old goose chase but they come and check it out anyways, and two of the FBI agents ended up going to the storage shed that he gave them a key to that claim. That's where the money is. They found the money and instead of Believe in him they ended up taking the money and that's kind of where we're at is basically crooked FBI agents are out to frame Liam Neeson's character which month he gets framed for murder because the head of the investigation or the manager of those FBI agents get shot in the hotel room by one of the agents and that's where all this goes from there. Now kind of with all of that you kind of have a picture. I hope of now we're we're we're at home. This movie I think Falls in a way the same lines as his other movies taken they follow very similar path. They're not exactly but it did have a taking vibe to it. That's what I felt and it seems like some of the past movies are some of his action type movies have kind of followed that I guess you could say script in a way. He's he's a some type of special forces ex-marine or whatever. How long has he is very good in combat. It's always like some of his movies. It's always like that now he is an action star in a way but this is this is kind of where I bought this kind of took me and I swear I felt is very taken ish. I guess you could say but Here it is. It's a short movie. Okay. It's a short movie about an hour and half about ninety minutes long and I'll I want to say this it did not really feel like money minutes. It went pretty fast. The story didn't seem to drag too much. It kind of went it had some good action sequences and it really kind of kept you invested in the movie and And to me it really made me care about Tom's character or Liam Neeson's character and the girlfriend Kate Walsh and they those two really I really cared for them. And even the FBI agents. I was really invested now. This obviously is not big Blockbuster. Not at all. But I will say this and there are probably some people that will disagree with me that I should have seen that have come out to see some of the newer movies that have come out like say Bill and Ted New Mutants tenant. I don't there's no there's not very many but I want to say this movie is better than those movies that have come out. I don't know why I do like action movies. So maybe I'm a little biased but I think this movie is by far so much better than the movies at we have seen our have been in theaters recently. I think this is a pretty solid action movie. I think it's I think it can hold I think you can hold up for at least a couple of weeks. I think it's solid and I think you would really dead. Well yourself coming and seeing this movie because if you like Liam Neeson as an actor or you like the taken franchise, I really think you're going to enjoy on a device. I really do. Now it does come with some of its faults in particular. I'll give you this one one scene here. Basically, one of the FBI agents comes back for an e after they figure out basically that she knows him and they're coming to I guess you could say get the get the black roof that they the flash drive that has the video on it that shows them getting the money and putting it in their trunk of their car from Tom's storage shed or storage building or storage unit. I should say so they were coming to collect that evidence. So they are not incriminated and and he's there she basically gets You know beat up pretty good. She goes to the hospital after they thought she was dead, but she wasn't and Liam Neeson takes her to the hospital. So she's in the hospital. Now. Here's the thing. He comes back later after you know, she's doing fine and everything. She's in the hospital. He said he's basically needs to get her out to a a safer place. Here's where I feel like this is what I don't understand. She she gets up. Basically she's or she still laying in bed and he basically says we need to get you to a safer place. We need to get out of here immediately now, they're in a hotel where she's resting. Here's here's my thing. And how how do you as a patient? That's basically laying in bed like that. How do you get out of the hospital? Without being discharged by a doctor or how do you even step foot past all the nurses all the security or the security guards and everything at a hospital? That's what I want to know. How do you get out like that knowing that you are basically people are looking for you so that's kind of what I don't understand is life. Really they just kind of jumped they let's get out of here and now they're in a hotel room. Now, here's where I think it's it's Justified. They don't they didn't feel like they needed to try to have that in there to show them trying to get out and escape to get out of there. So I believe that it was justified as for runtime purposes to for the flow of the movie because it did flow and so I can see Why they did that but that was the only thing that really felt out of place that didn't like I guess you could say. Well I said flow but how it flowed consistently because it almost seemed like for that part. It seems like they just kind of like bam. It's like it's like you missed a piece like a part of the movie like it cut it out and then it jumped to something else. So that's kind of where I think that comes back to some of the editing part. They I don't know what they should have done on that but I believed that that's kind of where they should have added a little bit more. I believed it just instead of just like cut splicing it cutting it right there and going straight to a hotel without a little bit of you know, showing them leaving the hospital or something. So that was the only thing I really had and I would real Curious to hear what everybody else thought of that whenever you see this movie. But here's the other thing there's nothing out. Okay, nothing out. There's nothing that is. Out in the theaters right now. There's a still a lot of theaters that are not opening a hang on I want to say is it a m c or or Regal? Like now I can't remember I so don't quote me to one of them. They actually closed back down closer theaters because if you haven't heard that the double O7 no time to die. They pulled that movie in November two thousand year. So that was kind of like the final straw for them. So they shut their theaters down. I don't know if they're opening up any time the rest of the year or not, but they shut the theaters down and I cannot remember for the life of me if it was Regal or AMC, but there are not open. So that's that's pretty big news right there. And that's kind of what keeps happening right now. Our studios are keep pushing and pushing and pushing these movies back and some are sticking some or or say they're coming out but no one really knows until they actually come so we don't know about and like I said before it's it's almost a week by week everyday kind of thing that we find out what movies are coming out and what's not but I'm beside the point finish up on this movie Honest Thief Rotten Tomatoes critics. They have it at 33. They didn't really like it too much money. I don't know. I don't know why they're being so hard. On it, but I really think that it was at least a sound movie. I don't think there shouldn't there shouldn't be any reason why you would just need to gut this there's nothing coming out, you know, enjoy what's coming. He'll enjoy coming seeing at least a new release. So I don't think the 33% is actually just spoke to be honest with you. There is no audience score on this. I will give you my score and I will say it's nowhere near 33% so long I'm just I'm baffled that it's that low, but there's not very a whole lot. There's about 27 critics so far, but I'm just I don't know. I think that's just unfair because there's nothing nothing new out and people want to see new releases and because the whole bringing back older movies the wage Feels realized that really didn't cut it no one really wanted to see a lot of people didn't want to see some of these older movies the people want to see the new releases. So with honest Thief I I think I think it's pretty solid and I really think it is worth coming to see it's not the best movie. It's not the best action movie by far. It is one of those movies that you probably would not even think of in a action type movie like when you're thinking about your top favorite action movies this movie probably won't even be in the won't even be in the top probably 25 months. So it is kind of one of those type movies that is not the best but I thought it was really fun. I enjoyed it. Not too many complaints Liam Neeson still does a great he's still he's still like a you know, kick ass guy and and he does that in this movie not as much as he has he did and taken, you know, not by any means but it just still like I said still has that it does have that kind of feel, you know, trying to basically either prove himself or you know, you know, he he's being framed and he's trying to clear his name, you know kind of along those lines, but with that I'm going to give this a chance to give it a solid 7.5 and that might be a little high but you know what after months of not having a movie that I truly truly enjoyed. I'm going to give this a little bit higher grade. I really enjoyed this movie and I think I think you guys will too. So whatever theater open near you you need to come and watch dog. The value really think you at least will enjoy it. I think it would be a nice great movie to come out on the weekend and and check out. I mean only an out ninety minutes literally exactly like ninety minutes long. I not a lot of time for you to to waste at all and I don't think you're I don't think that is going is asking a lot. So I really do believe you should come out and see that movie dead. So with that said next question is obviously what are you getting next week? I have no clue. Okay, I have no clue. There are some stuff that's coming out in Halo for Halloween and they all took us to bring back some older movies like for Halloween like Nightmare on Elm Street. Is that something that people you guys want to re see in the theaters is Nightmare on Elm Street and we're talking about the original Nightmare on Elm Street. Even Beetlejuice. There's, trying to come out for Halloween type movies horror type movies. Is that something you guys want to see or do you want to keep trying to see new movies? And I do believe there's one coming out on Halloween called come play and I'll put a trailer on our Facebook page for you to check out and let me know if that is something that you guys want me to review cuz I believe that our local theater will be picking that movie up as well. So let me know if that is something that you want to review and see. That's up a movie that you want to come check out. So keep a lookout for that trailer on our Facebook page. Okay. Now it's time to also kind of our local listeners that had come to our local theater. Got a little special treat for you so long for Friday Saturday and Sunday only just that would just the weekend if you come up to the theater and you come in by a ticket for honest thoughts courtesy of the film Fanatics podcast mention the film Fanatics podcast episode come to the box office to buy ticket and not mention to them that you listen to The Honest Thief review from the film Fanatics and you will receive a complimentary coupon for a free medium popcorn. Only three days Friday Saturday and Sunday. All you got to do is buy a ticket for honest thief and mention that you heard. Our review on honest Thief to get a complimentary medium popcorn and we will give you your coupon at the box office to go redeem at the concession for your free popcorn. Who doesn't want free popcorn movie theater popcorn that is and who doesn't love movie theater popcorn. So come out support the local theater support the same business and also thank you for supporting the show as well. 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522: Think Outside the Script - Jason Bay

Daily Sales Tips

05:50 min | 5 months ago

522: Think Outside the Script - Jason Bay

"You're listening to the daily sales, tips podcast, and I'm your host Scott Ingram today Jason Bay is back. Jason is the chief prospecting officer at blissful prospecting, and he's also hosting the think outside the script summer virtual tour, which you'll hear more about in just a couple of minutes. Here's Jason. Creativity is really interesting thing I think about it a lot actually if you think about what it means to be creative, you've probably describe someone as an outside the box thinker or that person's really like. They think so far outside the box, right? You've probably heard someone say there may be describe someone like that before. And what do you think about what that really means I? Don't think it's because that person put any extra level of effort into things. And I don't really think it's like something that you're born with either I. Think what that person has intentionally done is said well how things being done right now. And how can they just do it different or just the opposite way, and I'll give you an example in most of you if you're listening to. Probably you're probably using the scheduling link of some sort like a calendar link calendar link, you can send a prospect or or a client where they can book meeting when someone books in meeting. What usually happens? Usually a confirmation page pops up and says hey. Do you WanNa add this to your calendar? That's great nothing wrong with that or the other variation I've seen is it'll redirect to the company website or the persons linked in profile again. Nothing wrong with that, but that's what I see ninety nine percent of the time, but some of the time I get surprised, and this is what we do with prospects. When schedule a meeting with us, it'll redirect to a page that says hey. I'm super excited about talking with you and it's got a Gif of like little Asian Baby I can do because. It's got a little Asia. Baby Dancing, and it's like super cute and people comment on it. So we do that. We different. That didn't take a lot of creative energy for me to do that. I just said Hey, what is the normal explain? How can I just surprise someone and do something different might brighten their day up a little bit. So what I'm getting with this is. This concept of thinking outside the box applied to sales. What I think that really is, it's thinking outside the script. Write the script in the literal sense of what you say in a cold call, and saying the word for word stuff that you hear a lot, but also scripted the sense that hey, when i. Have a prospect I want to reach out to you. I read an email. Email sounds exactly like this and I start with WHO I am. Introduce myself while Wa wa. It's these normal things. He's canned approaches. What if instead of that? You thought outside the script. And what I did is I came up with some rules of engagement. There's ten of them. I only have a some time here sherby three to five of them, but what if we were able to think outside the script and be more creative in how we prospect somebody to share a couple of my favorites with number one is start with empathy, and now you're hearing empathy lot right now, but what if instead of introducing yourself in an email and talking about what your company does? You talked about the prospect in what you saw that they were feeling based on the other prospects like them that you talk about. and. It was hey. I talked to a lot of people like you. And what they tell me they're focused on right now. Is this or what they tell me? They're having challenges on. Is this so what if you started more with empathy and what's going on in their world? Instead of what's going on in your world number to teach, don't take. What if instead of the call to action to hop on a fifteen to thirty minute demo with you so that you can introduce yourselves and talk about your product or service? What if instead of that? The promises that you were going to teach them something. And a promise could be I work with a lot of people like you and here's how they accomplish for us. It's always a promise of learning how other companies prospecting and getting meetings right now? So what if that was the call to action instead of hopping on a call to do a demo? Number three make the prospect the hero. What, if instead of talking about how great you are you talking about how great your clients are! Not Great, are you make them the hero you make them Batman in the story. And you become Liam Neeson from the shadows, the person that teaches batman all those Ninja skills, and you haven't seen it or heard of the story you have to go. Check it out for that to make sense mature one more. Asked for permission and do it often so what if instead of being a so.. And telling the prospect to do you ask them? If you could ask them a question or you ask them if you could tell them something. And those are called up contracts and sand Laurel Right. Is it cool? If I share some feedback with you, haze, it cool a really. It might sound like a personal question but I really want to dig into this. Is that cool? Ask questions around it right? Give the prospect, very todd. These are just a few of the ways that you can start thinking outside the script and being different than every other sales interaction that they have. That's all I got today before I take off I wanted share one quick announcement. I'm putting. Advance called think outside the script. It's a summer virtual tour so instead of a virtual summit with like twenty events. Events packed down into like two or three days, and it being all prerecorded. There's forty events spread out across the entire summer and one hundred percent of the focuses on prospecting Scott Ingram's GonNa be one of the gas. We're GONNA be talking about personal branding about I wanted to invite you. It's free. It's live. It's going to be awesome. You can check it out tour. That's T., O. R., DOT, blissful prospecting, dot, com. Check it out again. It's free forty speakers, a lot of names recognized when you go, check it out tour that blissful prospecting dot, com, thanks to an end, and listen to my tip, and I'll talk to you later. For that link again to get signed up for the tour and to connect with Jason just click over to daily sales. Dot Tips forward slash five twenty two and my presentation is scheduled for June twenty fifth at noon. Central time so I hope you'll join Jason and I for that and once you've gotten yourself signed up. Be Sure to come back tomorrow for another great sales tip. Thanks for listening.

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November 2020 Trailers (Special Episode)

Piecing It Together Podcast

33:41 min | Last month

November 2020 Trailers (Special Episode)

"All right. Welcome to another episode of piecing together the podcast where we take a look at a new movie and try to figure out what movies inspired it and today on the show. It's another one of our special trailer roundups. We're looking at six movies coming out in november. Two thousand twenty this month got a lot of great looking stuff coming our way and i'm looking forward to hopefully covering a bunch of them but just in case we don't we're gonna talk some puzzle pieces on six of november's movies joining me again. Is jason harris who has joined me for our last couple of trailer up episodes mixture. You're listening to awesome movie year. It's another podcast that i produced jason harasses. Of course one of the hosts of it along with josh bell. Who you've heard here on piecing it together as well. And they are starting their season on the films of nineteen eighty-four which is our sixth season and Yeah there's the plug for awesome movie or go check it out and before we get into this conversation. I want to remind you as always to make sure subscribe to piecing it together on your podcast app of choice. You can follow us on social media at piecing pod join our facebook group popcorn and puzzle pieces and don't forget we also have a patriot. The produced by david rosen on bonus content from piecing it together awesome movie you're all-race no beans and for my music career. I just released a new album. David rosen and i've got a bunch of bonus stuff from the album and surrounding the rest of my music career going on the patriot as well so make sure to check that out. So let's get into this conversation which is in ariz- about some of the movies coming out in november. Who back with us. Today is jason harris. How you doing jason dave. I'm worried what are you worried about. Jason harris i'm not worried about the impending civil war. I'm worried about the cause of the civil war. Dave there's a lot of things come in Yeah from many many different angles many. I guess this would be better on your other podcast. But otherwise yeah. Maybe we'll get you over there at bird road to To commiserate about how awful everything is but you know. It's not terrible jason. You know it's not something that makes me want to want to die pending films coming to streaming video because you've seen the lied on. Why streaming is so wonderful and essential at right back to being depressed. Yes there are a lot of great movies coming out on streaming over the next month as a matter of fact while putting together our list for this month i started seeing what's coming in december in man we have a stacked rest of the year It was pretty difficult to even narrow this conversation. Down to the six that we're gonna talk about Maybe we'll touch on a couple of others But yeah a lot of good stuff coming in so this is going to be fun to talk about as you know my goal towards the end of the year. His name is to wear sweatpants and sit on the couch under a blanket and eat cookies and watch movies and ignore all social norms. This year. I think everyone will be joining me. Yeah that sounds like a plan. That sounds like we'll all be doing but let's talk about some movies. The first one. We're going to talk about is coming out just a little bit after election day where it'll be in our rear view mirror. Hopefully it'll be good news but it is called proxima. It's a foreign film. It's coming out in november six vod. It's it's been out for a while overseas stars. Eva green and matt dillon. And it's about a woman trying to balance her life as an astronaut go into a space station with her family life and her daughter. What'd did you think about this. One dave first of all. I think you're mistaken. Assuming that all over an election. Day dave i already told you. Civil war thought it looked fine. It's you know Familiar territory shore. You know we've seen a lot of these. I think there's a comedy here if you want to have a female astronaut with a newborn baby and she accidentally gives it powdered milk instead of breast milk. That's good stuff right there. Of course it's not you're right everybody. It looks okay. You my first puzzle piece dave. Yeah give them all right. Let me hear what you got. And then we'll see what i got okay. I went with gravity. Obviously female astronauts who went on a mission to sadly get over the death of her daughter. I went with interstellar which is about a man who is trapped in space only to spend an entire lifetime to go back to see his daughter and once he sees her he saw. She's like you probably don't wanna see me. Go back to space. So that was a real rewarding ending. Wasn't christopher nolan. Sure was and just for fun. I put space camp the nineteen eighty film. Because i liked training montage in this one and i like the trading montage and space camp. That's a nice curveball. Right there like it. Speaking of speaking of training montages. I thought of i man Which of course another movie about the the push pull between the job of being an astronaut and You know trying to actually have a family and have that life as well. I also thought of lucy in the sky. Which i never actually saw and i know got really critically panned with natalie portman But again it does seem to like you said this has been something that's been being explored a lot lately. They were astronauts and Dealing with that push pull and then just one other one. I thought mainly based on a very cool and synth heavy score in that trailer. I don't know for sure. That's going to follow through into the film. But i thought of apollo eleven the documentary which i has one of the better scores in the last few years and Yeah some great music in this trip. I'm bummed that. I missed that apollo eleven in the when they put it in the theater really quickly for like one showing at two pm on wednesday and that was really good could release schedule so who is worth it. Yeah so this'll be interesting. Eva green matt dillon and it's partially infringe partially in english. And you know why not. Yeah looks good so we are going to move onto a documentary. We we got a documentary in last month. And i figured we might as well squeeze one into our list here this month. We're gonna talk about i. Am greta coming out on november thirteenth. on hulu certainly not going to be controversial at all as nothing that this girl does is ever controversial. But it's about credit thumb berg and the climate crisis and obviously very timely with everything happening right now with politics and everything happening. What did you think about This stock i'm gonna watch it. I'm excited. I think it's something in the name you know greta she gets. She has this controversy surrounding her. Because she's trying to fix climate change meanwhile rock and roll band. Greta van fleet. Everyone says they sound too much like led zeppelin. And it's like just let these kids play music. Right right i mean. Do you wanna see the worst in people people who pick on greta here. Jesus man. that's just the worst. The worst type of person barrels. Oh was a teenage girl. Trying to save our planet. Let's be little demean her. Your horrible human being i. i'm looking forward to it. Looks like a good documentary. Obviously it inconvenient truth came to mind because i was the first one that not the first movie probably about climate change but the one that really mainstream did with al gore talking for an hour and then i picked another documentary that i do recommend about a child. Prodigy called chef. Flynn about a teenage chef. Who like from very young very young age like maybe even before he's a teenager is in the public eye and people expect great things from him and that. Maybe isn't exactly what's gone on with greta here but she has done great things and she's constantly in the public eye now as a teenager interesting. Yeah i i haven't seen that but sounds really good and yeah it'll be interesting to see with this movie. How much of it is about her. And how much is about the mission at hand and and what. She's trying to affect change. I of course also had an inconvenient truth on my list and then Another climate change documentary before the flood. I thought it'd be another one that Seems to be the same wheelhouse of of what exactly they're Trying to push for here with getting the word out which is insane. Two thousand twenty. And we're still getting the word out about climate change. But that's where we are now. Dave which led zeppelin songs. Did you pick for the greta. Van fleet's pieces. Yeah that's a good question. Probably probably rock and roll. That's i think Good one to go with here. All right they play rock and roll good job moving onto our our next one. Right this coming out november seventeenth on vod. And i'm looking forward to this i. I'm curious to hear what your thoughts are on. It's called fat. Man and it stars mel gibson as santa claus and a kid hires a bounty hunter to kill santa claus bounty hunter played by walton coggins and it looks absolutely ridiculous. Pitch black comedy. What did you think about this. I can't wait for this. I think of all the ones this month. This is what i'm most excited about. And why am i would have liked to have written you know so. I don't know about this version but the idea of a kid putting a on santa's is really funny. So you know when you think of dark dark christmas movies you start with bad santa. That's what i start anyway. So that was my first one. And then i picked maybe an obscure mel gibson movie from the early two thousands. I think payback. I don't know if you ever saw it. But it's like a hardboiled. Love payback the movie where he needs to get revenge because James coburn shot his coat or ruined his code. Something like that. And i love that movie so those those were my influences here beautiful. Yeah now those work absolutely. I just have written down. Every santa claus comedy. That's very lazy. But we'll see once we see the movie which ones really work the best. But also i i love including including payback in. The dark comedy seems to be like a big tone here and so i also went with another dark comedy. That's also an action thriller. It's also sitting in the snow. it's liam neeson film called pursuit. Which really grew on me. After when i first saw it. I didn't really like it very much. Because i kind of don't think they sold that movie very well on the dark comedy that it was going to be and i went in expecting just a liam neeson thriller and i was like what the fuck is this. I don't know anything about it. But i'm gonna watch it now because i like comedies and i like liam neeson thrillers so yes it definitely combines those things anyway and let me tell you something about liam neeson special set of skills in each movie no matter what the situation is. That set of skills is purvie to take out the enemy. I just thought you'd like to know that just wondering if we ever did schindler's list on awesome movie if you would break out the leonie's attached it's turned into a pretty good impression to say it was not bad at all so next on the list. Going back to hulu november twentieth. This one is called run and this is actually probably the one. I'm looking forward to the most this month. Even though the story seems very well worn territory. I would say about kinda munchausen by proxy mom keeping her daughter Kinda hostage and you know. But also sarah paulson has just been every kind of tv show series movie thing but searching. I thought was one of the big sleeper best movies of the last few years and so i'm really excited to see what this director does now. And you know there seems to be a lot of technology involved in the trailer. But he is stepping away from that kind of you know some might call it a gimmick thing of the africa what they call is screen life or something like that or is it more. Who's directing you design his name or the other guy. I would butcher name if i even tried to say. It's not going to. But i agree with you on searching great movie. Absolute real screen. I think you said. I don't know but they but they did a good job with that in that film. I'm not sure this is seems like it departure and like you said well worn territory. I mean literally hulu has the act which is actually based on that true story of gypsy. Rose lee is at her patricia. Arquette won the emmy for playing her. Mom who's you know doing this to her and of course that is based on the. Hbo documentary mommy dead in dearest. I also have in here doing something obscure from nineteen ninety-three mother's boys with jamie lee. Curtis where she leaves and comes back and now the data's a new girlfriend and she wants her family back but the dad's like no and she kind of like manipulates her children into doing what she wants to get to to get her family back. And it's all about the manipulation of a mother and children so those pieces there. Dave i like them. Yeah absolutely and i will just add in as a piece here along with the act and the other one you mentioned love you to death which is actually the same story as gypsy rose story but the lifetime version of that story time has done a million movies about this kind of subject And then also throw in there the six cents because they believe One of the segments of that film was the the mom feeding the kid poison or something like that so seems along that line. Yeah i know. That's the spoiler to get out there to six hundred Say i'm looking forward to that. One and i am definitely looking forward to this next one. Also coming out november twentieth coming to. I believe theaters as well. I'm not sure about that. I it's called jujitsu and it starts nicholas cage who we all know. I love as well as tony. And frank grillo and it's just this completely insane over the top action movie with alien invaders in martial arts and It it looks like the kind of crazy want when you hear nicholas cage is making a crazy movie. This does look insane. Obviously i put the expendable because it has so many action names. Right the you would show this might be closer to scott adkins film which i i didn't have on there but if you haven't seen scott atkins movies you should watch him. I thought this kind of like alien coming from another realm and nicholas cage us to play like this kind of guru who teaches someone how to defeat them. That kind of reminded me of the matrix. Morpheus neo thing. Yeah and it's balls to the wall. So i have crank on there and of course My last influence is donkey. Fuck monkey boehner karaoke shit because what is happening here yeah. I think you're right on that one. I probably just move on and that that sums it all up. I love those pieces. I'm gonna. I'm going to add in for good. Measure are going to add in the predator because that does seem to be some kind of alien predator thing that can do everything in his out in the woods. Picking people off. And i'm going to add in the one that i was reminded of the most actually The great wall with matt damon as this white guy who comes in and helps this. Giant army battled giant monsters on the great wall of china Which is a very stupid movie very ridiculous but if you're a fan of giant monsters kind of fun thought but yeah but i recommend highly enough donkey funk boehner carry on your pants they need to get the spelling of that from you for the puzzle pieces on the show nights so moving on to our last movie. This one is coming to net flicks on november twenty four. Th it's called hillbilly elegy. It's based on a bestseller strict by ron howard. Stars amy adams and glenn close and looks just like the ultimate beatty kind of movie. I don't know what what did you think about this. I have this book on my bookshelf. And wish i would have read it before. The movie came out but I don't see that happening. i'm excited. I mean look amy. Adams is excellent in everything right. We know sure. And it's nice to see glenn close like really. Do show it showcase her abilities. Because i don't think you know. Sometimes she doesn't get parts that really show. Just how amazing of an actress she is. You know right right so luck. Yeah it's ron howard Small southern town drug addict mom guessing is a opioid crisis. Type victim there and it definitely looks like you said oscar bait tear jerker but hey it could be really good. And that's what he does good so you know. I think it could be a good one. Listen i'm gonna be on my couch and a blanket under you know my sweatpants and cookies so like i watch this one. Why not more me up off the things. He got thought of it. I was the tv show justified. Because i thought they really nail that kind of southern kind of small town. And i don't know i don't think there's a crime element but there's only like a police drug element in this one and even though it's a different type i just think justify did that as well as anybody in the last decade i'd say and then the other one going really with that kind of small southern town where everyone knows everyone's business sling. Blade is on my list shore so this i admit it was a tougher one to find to really think of pieces so yeah it really was. Yeah yeah yeah. I for me i. I only came up with two also. I one the glass castle. With brie. Larson and woody harrelson kinda like this this kind of drift her family and you know they they kinda squat. You know different houses. It was all right. it's again it's kind of like just that obvious oscar bait kind of thing and then it got absolutely no attention whatsoever but it was. It was effective though. I thought the other one. I thought of was The fighter just because of that kind of family you know where. It's just dysfunctional kinda. You know it's funny. I know you just watch forty year old version. This is like white poverty porn. The fighter also came to my mind. And i just thought am i. Is it just so far out there that it wouldn't fit. I'm glad you said it. It's hard to say when you're looking at trailers. But i think you know i think it works by the way the forty year old version is on my top ten list right now for this year. I would have to agree at the time of this recording. I think that's gonna be next week's episode. I recorded an episode on it so it was not asked me on it. You're you're on a lot of episodes lately. I always gonna have to clean that of so that brings to the end of our six movies. Were did any of the other ones. That i kind of had on my shortlist kind of standout to you. Anything you wanted to give a shadow to. Yeah the vince. Vaughn body switcher bloom house movie. What is that one called filthy freaky freaky freaky like a like a cool freaking friday. Yeah right it's freaky friday but our version. So the victim. The teenage girl gets switched into the killer's body and vice versa. And i'm like that's a really really smart fun. Take on it. Why aren't they releasing. that for. Halloween is a good question. Yeah actually that's a really good question. You and i are about to record this episode later tonight on on the rocks which is coming out. Base came out this week for like halloween. And it's like. Where does hollywood come up with these ideas for release dates. I don't know on. The rocks was on our list for last month in our last preview episode. Did you watch anything. Besides that that you wanted to mention from last month well. I actually really kind of enjoyed huby halloween. I have to say. I had a really good time with that. I know i know you had a an issue with understanding all huby there but i thought it was really fun very ridiculous but fun and i think that's it though i i didn't get a chance to watch dick johnson. I keep trying to haven't gotten to it yet. I've heard nothing but terrible things about the war with grandpa. maybe i'll see at one day. But i kind of highly doubt the and love monster just came out dick johnson's supposed to be all. Yeah it is. And i'm really looking forward to watching it when i get a chance and bad hair. We didn't get to yet. I'd like to see that. Yeah love and monsters. Look sir all right. Well we tried. What what what did you see any of them. I saw on the rocks. And yes so. Just you'll be all we'd i just you know i. It has so much potential to me and it was difficult to understand the main character which is unfortunate fair criticism of it. Luckily for me. I watch everything when i'm at home. I watch everything with subtitles so that made it a little easier. But i'm glad to be hit. It shows at there is a audience. Still or adam sandler. How ahead of the game was that guy to make that deal with netflix. Before everyone was making these multi picture deals with them. So i know right. So does this shit crazy comedies. And nobody does it as well as the sandman. Yeah absolutely well. I think that does it for this trailer. Roundup jason. why don't you tell people about what's going on over an awesome movie awesome movie year dave right now by the time this thing comes out. We'll probably still be in our giving some special gifts out. Some little holiday episodes some episodes from the patriotic people might not have heard. But then we're about to start our six season. We just finished nineteen seventy seven. Now we're moving into an iconic year that everyone loves nine thousand nine hundred eighty four. Got a number of huge hits. That many of us grew up with Very excited about it. Yeah and high josh. My co host josh bell. How you doing buddy. Josh got get josh back on the show to sometime soon. He judge doesn't complain. When i don't have them on like complaints about everything else though as well jason as always thank you so much for joining me and Look forward to look forward to that. New season awesome movie. Or that's for sure. Because i pay you to produce it so you get money Hello everyone my name. Is matt nagla and i am the host of the next best picture. Podcast part of the film. Entertainment awards website next best picture dot com on our show. We explore all year long. What is possibly going to win. Best picture at the oscars we do this by conducting interviews with people within the film industry holding weekly reviews of the latest piatra releases and on our main show where we dive into various different topics. Answer your fan questions and also do our best to explore oscar histories pass in hopes that it will tell us something new for his upcoming award season race. We hope that you will join us on alta dairies podcasting networks. We look forward to see you over bred. Best picture dot com Right so hope. You enjoyed that conversation with jason harris about the film's cum now in november. There's a lot come in and hopefully will end up covering a lot of those movies. And thank you jason. Everybody make sure you're listening to awesome movie year. Like i said at the beginning of the show. They just entered their sixth season. This time on the film's nineteen eighty-four. Lots of big big classic movies to cover this particular season. So it's going to be a fun one Another movie that just came out that i want to give a quick little shout out to is our buddy. Chris crane aku. You've heard here on piecing it together. A whole bunch of times just came out with his new short film bizarro tastic. Oh you can check that out at. Chris crane dot com. I'll put a link in the show notes but Definitely check it out so really really great film and hopefully chris on to talk about it one of these days. We'll see what happens. But as always i do want to thank you all so much for listening to piecing it together. I appreciate all of the feedback. We've been getting lately. You can of course rate interviews on apple podcasts or pod chaser or you just get in touch with me. Month's social media at piecing pod join our facebook group popcorn and puzzle pieces and let me know what you're thinking of the show. Do you like these trailer. Roundup special episodes. We've been doing d like the breaking it apart and the missing pieces that we've been doing to help fill the gaps. Whenever there's you know not new movies to to cover although. There's really a constant on flux of new movies to cover but It's good to mix it up a little bit especially strange times. We're living in right now but Yeah let me know what you're thinking of the show do appreciate it and i think that does it for this episode. So let's play off with a piece of music. And i am still in the very draining process of promoting my new album david rosen. It's hard to promote an album nowadays. Let me tell you there's just there's probably a thousand albums -oday that come out and so to get heard get seen is difficult somehow. It is more difficult than to be seen within the thousands of movie podcasts. That are out there but You know it's it's tough. But i do appreciate everyone. Who's been checking out the new album and is available of course for streaming on spotify an apple music and all that but it's also available for sale and i tunes and amazon and as a limited edition cd over on my band camp and i'm gonna play a track from that new album. This is called together again. Is one that i'm really proud of. This is a track. And i talked about this on the The album commentary special episode. That i put out but this is a track that started off as like a very simple track just kept growing and really became one of my favorite songs on the album Really proud of this one so again. It's called together again from my adam. David rosen. i am out here. Promoting the hell out of this thing so i make sure to check it out. Here's together again Points west production. Produced by david rosen in las vegas.

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Hour 3 - Sean Salisbury (08-13-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 3 - Sean Salisbury (08-13-19)

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Its final hour on this tuesday dan and the danettes dan patrick the show here at the home office a._t. And t. directtv and el segundo for the entire week the rich eisen studios. We brought our basketball who we don't travel without out of basketball who we just had a free throw shooting contest between mclovin and gottlieb doug one of the all-time leading assist man in college basketball history and mclovin. He went out five for five doug went two for five and then <hes> mclovin goofed around a little bit. You need one of your last three and you nearly choked and you wanted in sudden death and doug had to dip himself into our fountain heritage. It is one hundred percent mental free throws. You were shaking. Can your hands and your legs were shaking. I have no idea why i mean. Both i think both tonight at ten on that rim. That is so soft shooter friendly but i couldn't. I could barely get the ball to the rim on the last shot. I hit twenty in a row right now and i couldn't could barely draw room. I know you were nervous. Doc was a little nervous. Do i say was yeah this big-time stage you know they were like nine people watching. I was sure i was going in the found night already prepared like a second outfit soaking wet so do i you did curly in the week the first thing he said to me as you're going that found at some point so am i still going no you don't have to. I thought you were going in. I thought doug would be yeah. Oh i know i know and but no you don't but it is nice and warm. It is very i check the temperature. Lot of executive have no idea what we're doing here that that's the interesting part the on campus here direct t._v. and people just walking by going. What are they doing. Wiser man dipping his head into the direct t._v. Audience were channel thirty nine p._r. Live dot com. That's where you can watch. All all three hours of this program also are great radio affiliates three hundred sixty and our great radio affiliate here in los angeles kalay sig and <hes> we get to have fun for the next couple of days here in los angeles if you'd like get in touch with us with twitter it's at ep show phone number eight seven seven three d._p. Show our a poll question for the first two hours mclovin. We've had a couple of haven't we now we pretty much gone strong. Liam neeson stayed with liam nick just because i watched the snowplow l. movie coming out here on the plane and i didn't know the name of the movie but i watched the entire movie with liam niessen a snowplow sixty seven percent would rather it'd be liam neeson than paul giamati but i think if thanks schindler's list out of there i think the action star liam these. I can't take it out because do i take <unk> out something from paul giamati. Would you rather be you're an actor. Yes star of fast and furious movie like hobbes shaw or an oscar winning performance. Would i rather be jason. Stay them <hes> or daniel day-lewis yes. I'll be jason statham who paulie who was told oldest that people think he looks like jason state now i said i wish people told me i looked like different. Fatal paulie goes yeah. I've been told i look like jason. Tatum and i wanted to be belt. We tell you that we think thank you look like jason safe. My hair's going that way the rest of you not yes what paul giamati it. It seems like he's got a career didn't even break out in the howard stern private parts movie. We'll be playing the radio she vomit yeah and he kind of came out of nowhere and he's always relevant again for really good work and he's not like a paparazzi darling or he doesn't at the carry a movie. He's got kind of that career. I'm sure makes good he doesn't have to because he can't carry a movie sideways in concur. That was pretty good. It was collaboration there cinderella man even though it starred russell crowe paul giamati he was as good as anybody's great but i would rather be liam neeson's and he's not a mighty sun. Write that factors in he doesn't know any sports. Believe it or not i remember talking to. He's not a baseball guy. I don't think he's a big sports fan at all. He's a great actor and we always somehow it comes back to paul. Giamati ends up poll question for. I don't know why but he's that actor we go to. It's not that successful but he's <hes> critically acclaimed. Have you ever ask your friend adam sandler does he wish he had been more dramatic throughout his career like he's made. He's made a lot of money but he's got a lot of good pub for like punchdrunk punch drunk love. He's got a new movie. That's coming out that i it. I think he'll get some acclaim from critics because he says he never looks at any of his movie reviews. He never does because he knows he goes danny. They're gonna <hes> trash me. He already knows that this one that he's doing. He said that's coming out. I think in the fall he's <hes> it's different. It's not like the typical adam sandler movie because we just shot shot the halloween movie up in <hes> cape cod and that's a typical adam sandler movie but this one a little bit different mentioned. Dak prescott reportedly wants forty million ian per year. I was told the cowboys leaked that he wanted forty million and try to curry favor with cowboy fans or make his agent embarrassed that he asked for forty million 'cause you may ask you can ask for whatever you want. It's what they're willing to pay and maybe it's thirty to thirty three million dollars. Antonio brown loses his helmet grievance. He reportedly will be in camp coming up today as early as today. Now he's looking for a helmet that they discontinued in twenty eleven. It's the air advantage. Helmet browns helmet is more than ten years old. There are helmets out there. There are eight or nine years old if brown can find one that fits him properly and is in good condition. The league says they will let him wear it right now. According according to a source brown and his representatives have not found this type of helmet that is less than ten years old that they were hoping to anyone who has one. Please contact the raiders antonio breath. It does ebay. Have these helmets on there you go on ebay looking for the air advantage there. That's how old is it. It's eight years old okay. I'll take that what a bizarre story. It's probably autographed by carson palmer something like an old one from years ago. I'd take it then you know. Repaint it. Jerry jones is trying to pump up the <hes> young running back ezekiel elliott's young running backup. He is tony pollard. I believe out of memphis and jerry jones had some verbal bouquets to of course tell you a zeke done come in. We've always got tony pollard. I'm certainly thought he had a good account of himself. He looks <hes> confident out there. We know he's ordinarily uh-huh understanding what it is. He does convey that. We've seen him do it. We know he's capable. If a really needs to now i like this kid i think he he'll he can catch bows out of the backfield. He ran a four three forty kick returner <hes> but he's not the next ezekiel elliot here and he's not replacing anytime soon but jerry's doing what you would i mean. He may just be assessing housing. Hey what do you think of tony pollard but it just feels like the timing of this and maybe was asked a question about this in fairness jerry new just saying hey. I like what i see so far. Yes mclovin mclovin. Fantasy players are going nuts over trying to figure out who's that third round running back who breaks out and it's is it more the situation than the player like you gotta. I i feel like as you were talking about the running back out of penn state with the eagles mile santa but and i think he's a curtis martin type. I just don't know how many carries he's going to get. It's all about how touches and is as good as he is or can be. I just wonder you got a lot of people there in the philadelphia backfield. There's a guy david montgomery from. I was the kid who's with the bears who get a lot of one. He's the one that i would single out. If i can get a bargain it would probably be him because he's going to get touches there. You know that that's what you want at that position. You know josh jacobs with the raiders. Are they going to run the football. You know gruden likes to run the ball inside the twenty or inside the red zone. You know maybe you get some touchdowns with him. I don't know if you get a big production. You know as far as yardage wise yarmulke so do you think the position is somewhat generic like you can kind of plug and play wasilla. It's a long league. You're in because if christian mccaffrey's may give you a thousand yards rushing receptions n._f._l. Team not just fantasy. Yeah like like ken this guy tony pollard do it for the cowboys. Would you be shocked. If for some reason he got in there without i would be shocked if he's starting over zeke. Elliot and zeke is not in camp. I would be shocked at that but with that line and pollard in there and you know maybe maybe start to have load management with zeke elliot elliot if i'm going to sign him to a long term deal now. I want to make sure that i'm maybe pacing him a little bit more than i would have because my philosophy is. I'm using you up. If you're a running back i'm gonna low job for five years and then that's it i move on maybe if you look at him as an investment long-term investment than maybe polar gets a little bit more run their yup but this has happened before but the cowboys they found their quarterback tony romo they got it. What was he like a six round. Pick out of eastern illinois and they stumbled upon him this guy pollard if he's a good back. What is he gonna make five hundred grand this year. He's got a three year deal for about two million bucks. Which is what that's what you wanted the running back position a young kid. You could burn up and not pay. I think romo was undrafted that right yeah downdraft you by the way just brought load managed the n._f._l. Thanks dan. I know that position. It's the one position listen. If i'm a running back i want load. Man lady unbelted this. He was looking at load management here and if i'm running back that's what i would look at now. You're only playing sixteen games so it's different than play eighty two and colli goes. I'm gonna play sixty games or sixty five load management. There's one position in football where load management literally literally load management is you know something that is a factor. At least it would be for me if i'm if i'm gonna sign zeke for five years now. I gotta make sure that i i have him for those five years. If i wanted to see baseball should have done load management instead of pitch count then everybody would be like well. Yeah you gotta manage that pitch pitch count. It's like what a bunch of wimps get out there and throw the ball. Just it sound a little more serious if it's load management as opposed to pitch like a little bit more masculine with load management. It's a little bit more of a strain on the shoulder. Maybe the load management just when you say okay <hes> what pitch count <hes> he can only go one hundred like what happens after all. You can only only go a hundred okay what happened what what happens. Pitch wanna one. Hey load manager. Come on get through one hundred pitches last take. Did you see where alex rodriguez had five hundred thousand thousand dollars of jewelry and electronic stole from solan from his car he was i guess having a meal with the mothership guys from the mothership and he was in san francisco for giants game and somebody broke into his guests. They've had you know this rash of break-ins around around the ballpark there in san francisco and a rod had five hundred thousand dollars taken out of his car with jewelry electronics. I i don't know how you could have five hundred thousand dollars. I think what he where he'll wear hugo. I think h u._b. L. o. t. watch. I think is what it's called old and you know maybe that's fifty thousand dollars unless he had like ten of them with him right like like which one i going to wear today but do you have just a suitcase full of watches. There and the electronics have seventy five inch flat screen in the back of his verts. He carries that wherever he goes yes and even that you would. You have all of this jewelry but i'm not can wear it. I'll just leave it in the car this five hundred thousand dollars unless he had some j.lo's jewelry you know maybe that he's already engaged right so he didn't have engagement ring in there but five hundred thousand dollars laptop camera jewelry jewelry and a bag five hundred thousand dollars. I'll what if it's personalized jewelry that says like a rod encrusted in diamonds how eddie potty pawn that stuff. How do you get rid of that stuff. I don't know that might be one of those where you get and you turn it over and it says you know to my darling. A rod odd love j. j. lo or something five hundred thousand dollars. Love you broken. Oh celebrities car. How does that work out. I did but it was. It was a verbal. The top off a lot different wasn't probably these guys. He was driving a nissan a read a nissan. Can you imagine how happy robbers they're probably going on. What could be in this nissan or did did they see a rod. Get out of the nissan probably usually they break in the pair ray bands and like half a mil now what's to stop a ride from claiming five five hundred thousand. How do we know is really five hundred thousand not that he's not the most trustworthy person well wait a minute. I go insurance. Fraud easy. Here is selena roberts actually had a report that it was two hundred thousand. That's all reference. Wow he's a security guard. Try to beat me up at a super super bowl party for go with a right. Allie seems actually pretty nice. I don't remember where a rod came in and mclovin got jostled by security by in writing he was he was so we saw him after and we're like what's wrong and <hes> it was a rod and j. lo and they were at a wheels up partying and mclovin cleven got jostled by the security guys in he wanted a piece of somebody and i it's okay like you're not going to beat him up clearing a paso he can walk okay but raj four he didn't know you. You got hit yet but there was this air about the whole party. That was like my word. I mean i'm not surprised prizes dude at five hundred thousand go let it go. You know we saw at the oscars and he had a nice interaction with paulino. No it wasn't the oscars. I mean it was oscar nominated for an oscar. I was thinking of liam neeson apologia body yeah but he was nice to us. At the emmys we saw trauma the sports emmys and we were walking out after our painful crushing loss year two and a rod was walking on as he walked past this this guy who's carrying like big trays that had water bottles and and i'm like a stack trace the whole tray all the trays of water bottles fell over right when a-rod walk past him and i look i will alex what you do. Here's that wasn't me that wasn't me and he is serious. Glad he's used to being blamed for things. I'm guessing mclovin wanted to pilot yeah. They've broken jeeter's car and got the entire payroll. The marlins that is there something about jeeter in the marlins are a mess and i think we're done with. I think let's go back to the liam neeson yeah it's only a nissan and the snow plow movie go to rocco dot com all the parts your car or truck will ever need rocco dot com a family business. It was founded in nineteen ninety nine believe of it or not two goals in mind i to give direct access to all the parts information hidden in the computers in catalogues behind the counter and second to make them affordable. Yes sir chatter over there. I need to be aware just thinking about how we should go. Get low main- here pretty soon but we can discuss that off the air we got. We're hungry yeah. I'm hungry and breakfast. I just had a little. I was like man. What can i go for right now. I know but i'm doing a dramatic retires. 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In and out of training camp and everything else now i know while brings the wire with a joke and his questions and everything else so he's got the goal so he was was show up here a couple of days a week what acceptable as far as load management uh-huh actually on the back row load management all right. They're sad for it. Yes thanks for the phone. Call there. No it wouldn't be acceptable with load management. I'm not sure i'm is important in victory. You're not trying to load manage andrew. I don't know about yeah. I've exhausted from that free. Throw shooter contest all right. We'll take a break sean. Salisbury will join us. We'll get his thoughts on what the cowboys cowboys are doing the logic here and what's he think of my logic asks for a two year deal if you're dak prescott and bet on yourself guaranteed money and then get back into the marketplace in two years with a new t._v. Contract that would be the approach that i would take but that's not the approach. 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Will it be the same old same old or are you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary with the new jamaican jerk turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced smoked turkey breast crave ably sweet mustard mustard sauce and a hint of caribbean seasoning just five fifty five remedium save time order the new jamaican jerk turkey sub on the firehouse subs app firehouse subs enjoy more subs save more lives participating locations limited time only plus tax prices may vary for delivery. We've been on this liam niessen kick because i saw saw this snowplow movie coming out did that go straight to the d._v._d. Was it in the theater. Theaters was yeah. It got decent reviews. The snowplow nope plow movie with liam neeson called pursuit but we were wondering could you pretty much make liam niece and movie out of all walks of life right like let's say sports radio host by day murderer by night and we call it dead air boom liam liam niessen stars in dead air perfect <hes> let's see what else could we do club but he's not a murderer. He's fighting a drug. It's always a drug cartel and there's is probably a child involved. It could shoot. Why is there a drug cartel up in the north polar bears. There's two notes in colorado. There's short north pole. There's true true <laughter> drug cartels that he's fighting so this is a very seasonal movies in the summer what's he what's his other job. He's like lawns at the local golf club. I don't know what he does but maybe there's that's the sequel where he <hes> he mows greens at a golf course planet. He's petunias and and i'm getting fritzy. Give me a your liam neeson. I will find you. I hunt you down and they will cure what if he is like a chef with a goodson into a drug cartel k. like he's a. I don't know a european movie flom but he's a french chef so chef by day right and he detracts down drug cartel. It's always a drug cartel. What what would the movie burn notice or something already. You know it's already been used yeah it. It feels like you can make it liam. Neeson's movie of anything all right sean salisbury post to be sean salisbury show in houston morning drive host sports talk seven ninety in houston a friend of the show former n._f._l. Quarterback cfl star and <hes> u._s._c. legend sean salisbury joining us. Hi sean it in my own mind. What every time i come on this. There's this introduction you said dead air and then someone's coming on. I have listened to me. Dan i auto particular set of skills. If you talk about my career and how bad it was i will find you. I will kill you. The thought you were sending me one of your cfl jerseys i am one of the blue gray in the process and what i wanted to i wanted to over over your right shoulder like a bird that comes on their marino's elway asks have you ever did you ever sit down and talk quarterbacking with montana or elway marino <hes> and a lot not kill not a lot of times. Just it's like an interview and everything here. I talked with marino portugal kate down a lot of times quest okay but what he you said do they look at you mike. How do they look at you because you didn't play too much in the league but you did play and then i got up dick rear end you can kiss in alabama are looking for you know and i say well. I got the train adam sandler for getting because i look i look at elway and i say well at stanford when i was a sophomore at s._c. And you're a senior gotcha their players that n._f._l. Players a week at your expense in denver come back and forth. I never lost you and steve young never lost to you so those are about my only three or four with the league so i use that as a crutch wasn't very good but i didn't play good against a couple of the good ones and hold a conversation doesn't stay on me long it away with all the great i would caddy basically but i somehow remember the good stuff and and and watch them play. I did myself actually study warmer than than me and i always have said that. You're one of the better football analysts out there air you. You have a great i for for looking at these things certainly at the quarterback position but i can't imagine we're always go no sean wait. Tell me more like how how did you do take john foundation. I wish i could have done that quickly movies. He came back and forth eight times and beat. They don't spend a whole lot of time saying hey. Let's talk to those because i really love your quick relief. Uh-huh okay i mentioned this that dak prescott that my advice to dak prescott not that he's asking for it but the financial logic i would have is bet on yourself and with that great offensive line amari cooper and zeke elliott in why oh not signed a two year deal in. Let's say we guarantee it for sixty three million dollars new tv deal comes up twenty twenty you go back into the marketplace you bet on yourself and then you sign that big five year deal. What do you think of that logic instead of jack signing a five year contract with the cowboys. I love your logic dan. I love and i personally. I may be in the minority but i actually think jack prescott is the most underrated quarterback in the n._f._l. And when i when when he came out this year i had the second quarterback on my rank ends up going in the fourth round. The one weakness from me him is can you carry. It seem like rogers. Here's brady or those guys for five or six weeks there mike trout. You know they can carry a team can't do and right now. I think that's the big question mark but it's pretty accurate underneath better throwing the ball down the field can can he carry a team right now. He can't is it. I can't see forty million a year but hey ask the moon. They get a couple of stars in the process. I like your style better because the more numbers he were a numbers. You're going to leave. We you want for bowles but it's really numbers. Oh my gosh you're not the quarterback jimmy numbers and no super bowl while you're not a winner we want full so what it gives him top running back the number one receiver he gets more settled in the offense again competence continuous gluco. It's like the kirk cousins approach with last year guarantee sixty million go do your thing throw me a forty five hundred and give me deep into the playoffs or possible super bowl doorsteps and now we can talk and the money will be bigger than he's asking four now. I do think there's something to prove but i also think he's extremely disrespected when you look at who's compared to all of us. He's not a top ten. I i got. I got the good player but the one thing hold him back is the can carry a team if he doesn't play this. Let's say held out for six games. Can you get the foreign sewer five in one. I think that's the biggest question michael mark why people are afraid to pay him that kind of money. Let's say the open market. You can have dak prescott or org jared goff same money prescott right now. I'm concerned about goff's wealth. Coats soon mcveigh's one of the best in the world of what he does but there's some d._n._a. When it comes to closing out games i got to see more of from golf right now. If i have to lead my team could could prescott gotten the rams were lost it last year absolutely and i'm not sure would have went away and hitting the super bowl like we saw a little bit of the rams off. I'll take prescott. Donald dogs. Don't all right carson. Wentz dak prescott say money. <hes> prescott in my opinion has a bigger feeling. He's got a dude potential and places to reach. I think he can m._v._p. Guy the thing is dan if you're not available. It's hard for me to consider you. One of the top five for six guys in the league wins has the ability but i gotta have him on the field that miss smith and his last when he's out there there is an alarming <hes> talent is through the roof guy great leadership people love him. I think if you have the same amount of money or even a little i pay more you're telling me who's gonna get me to a super bowl. Quick play in that simple. I take win sweats. I but i am taking first before talking to sean salisbury joining joining us dan patrick show. What do you expect. What do you need to see out a baker. Mayfield this year <hes> i would like to see those planning to january anywhere this is i love this team. I think they're the best team in the north. I think that the the the production will match the hype. Now hype says they're super bowl champions since but i think they're gonna get close to it because i love his smacker. Danny wins and when people say break down what you need a quarterback when they said what are the traits well. My traits are number one. What are you mentally and emotionally tough enough to handle boost from your own crowd or people throwing stuff at you or the dog peeing on your leg or whatever it is because you've had a bad first half to come mountain win for me. He's got that he's accurate big arm swagger his teammates believing him now people are going to say does he over talk where he's going to be locker room solder solder and pinup but that's okay because i think that drives and he comes at it from a walk-on personality and approach dan. There's always a chip on his shoulder. I think he's going to be a star. You're i think he's going to have a ring on his finger. Before long. I think the pits the pittsburgh steelers they they may be looking up at the division champion around and i love district but i love with this kimes done and how they're building it and it starts at that position. This is not sake. You can't be this good and continue to make this place for me. They're a mid january playoff house team and probably a little bit of experience away from being us looking at the february or they're kind of like the chiefs were last year. They're close and now they've got a chance to get over the top. I think the cleveland browns around the come and i think they're going to be very difficult to deal with don't lake if they're in the middle of january still playing football. I'm getting more and more concerned about about andrew luck here that it was just a calf and it was just a calf and al jimmer say the owners said well. It's a small bone in there. <hes> is is andrew luck starting week one against the chargers. I hope so dan but i'm gonna tell you this. Team goes from in as much as i respect the backup quarterback position because i understand it with with andrew luck. They are division champions in my mind without him and that now there's two or three other teams that are setting. We've got a legitimate staff. That's now. He's not gonna miss much time if he does. I think he will start but i'm with you you know with soft tissue and the caffeine will creep down the achilles and even though it's on and his left leg which is not as plant leg you still got the follow through in the finnish and how does that affect accuracy and remember dan when the shoulder oh. It's not that big a deal a year later eight or you want throwing so yeah. I'm concerned and while people think well is it soft tissue in the nagging part of soft tissue you know been through many surgeries when they start saying bone and it's not not ready and then i'm not worried about preseason games what i am worried about is the conditioning and the mind and the mental and the physical part and he'll work hard and he knows what's going on but to be able to we just don't plug him in and they wanna say. Let's go back and do it again. This team's built for success long-range success. Yes i am with you. I'm more concerned now than andrew luck than than i ever thought i'd be. I thought it was gonna be no big deal time off camp. This is serious because no andrew luck no playoffs. If this is an extended injury for the indianapolis colts does your helmet matter that much <hes> well i played with wore leather helmet dan and play with billy kilmer facemasks <hes> i think the comfort of put it on and you get a headache and it starts the pants or maybe somebody who has a like the way the visuals out of i think this is this is ridiculous. Everybody adjusts just like doing business. You do in life to do with rules. You do salaries do with new quarterbacks you just this is. This is much ado about nothing. I understand stand comfort we own. We don't want to be perfect uniform to fit right but dan adjustments. When i played in high school and you notice suspension helmets there wasn't anything so then you put on the bike helmet and your pressuring is it and then the next thing and the next thing we don't like it the perfect but you make a lotta money about fifty million to deal with it side the helmet that fits the bill excuse for a great football player. I hated as a matter of fact it matters yes. There's a comfort level but there's also point time we beg on laugh at least overcome adversity and to deal with change antonio brown and anybody else has to deal with change. You have all the other dudes can do you can do it too. It's going to start affects his game. He's not the type of player competitor. I thought he wasn't that. I think is this won't last long and he wasn't gonna retire. Put half always red but these players would take performance overprotection if i said to you that you're going to have a safer helmet but you're going to be able to perform better. I'm assuming most of these players would take the performance part of this nine out of ten would say i'll take performance as opposed to two extra pounds on my helmet. The extra extra sickness e dan it even gets to the point that when you dress it in the locker room and you put your helmet on and get a look at yourself some of these helmets knowing the like the look of it honestly the visible who for some guys that it doesn't quite fit right like my town doesn't look right. What's it gonna look like when i'm running around even that you're one hundred percent correct if they said well increases sixty percent concussion wise where you're old helmet as opposed to the new one but it's gonna feel dead ninety percent of the players in this league would say oh. I'll take the take the comfort and how i look and feel as opposed to that concussion because it's never gonna happen to me. Only injuries happen to somebody else. I agree with him. I do the same thing gimmie comfort comfort over protection. I'd probably do the same thing. Did you wear a protective cup. When you're a backup so i did when i went to bars with the debtor the strangest phenomenon in the left fielders in baseball where it comes running back running through the line where hands are flying and there mitch cup jack and grabbing stuff all the time never comes in. You know what's crazy dan at no time in my career and i know you're gonna make the climate will shot you enough to get where the cup is at no time in practice or game. Have i ever been hit there. Where i got a stomach ache like you would ball hits. You get it wrong. It's it's the weirdest here to sing. I have never watched the play. Put a cup in football in my life. I don't know one that's ever war one <hes> and i didn't on because clipboard protected me on the sidelines. I didn't need a copy and then when you pick out your visor to where on the sidelines mike. How did you choose your visor. I have a lo a matter of fact. I put mine up against. The around. You gave mullet was the best in the n._f._l. I can guarantee you the prime. I didn't win the visor vying to look right. I needed to pull the half down like a closer oser and baseball guy. I'm dana boulders bruton buys guy. I wanted to happen wolf down boy a lot tougher and that's why did visors visor. The forgotten pitching ingrained not for quarterback on the sideline. He's sean salisbury morning. Drive hosted sports talk. Seven ninety in houston always great talk to you sean. Thanks for joining us love being on the thank you nad sean salisbury. We went out one night salisbury nine. I may stop. You got part of my job dan yeah i may stop you there. I think i did that last night. When it went to dinner with seton i started out with a line and then i stopped myself and i said i don't think i'd ever say those words. Because i said here is blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah and i turned turns seton. I go oh my god. Did i just say yeah. That's how i started you know hey i walk into a bar. I'm with salisbury one night. In arizona and end sean famously would give people cup checks and there was this guy who was out with us and he gave him a cup check in the guy and a protective cup calphalon at the bar must have got sean before he had gone out with sean before and was not gonna have him give him a cup check and he had a protective cup hop on in his with his jeans and i went man that is game planning right there that that's a field general. That's load management. Yes sean got me. Once once i two pints of beer may handy check your balance and he hit me pierce billing all over. It's still one of the great stories ever when we were new orleans and and we ran into mitch cup check of all people and sean salisbury was nevermore excited. It's it's one of those one of those moments that if i told you the story and you you know way but i was there and sean would always say g._m. Of the lakers what's in it always have somebody say mitch cup. Check it and then he would hit you in the groin. Join give you a check and all of a sudden. We're there and mitch cup. Check walks in and he goes. I gotta get a cup check right. I go yeah sure and he walks up to mitch and i think he says god who's the lakers g._m. And he goes me you mean mitch cup check and he gives cup check and i went. Oh my god he just didn't he just gave mitch kupchak cup check at a bar. How has a true story at an absolute historic salisbury right there. I know and you could see the look on mitch cup checks face like why did you just hit me in the grady like most people would like if you're out socially and i think shawn had to explain you know cup checks because you know cup jeff yeah like i just checked you. He's like my name is close enough. We'll take a break what we learn. What's in store tomorrow and whatever whatever else we can pile in dan patrick show jordan here. I know a lot of you. Create your own podcast and a lot of you already have one like me. I obviously love of what i do. 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In the backseat applauding share that was part of the script yeah and i remember he had this little small pad in the middle of his back and i was told to pick up this folding chair and to hit him in the back as hard as i could but and i just remember him saying just don't miss and i'm thinking he's probably had all kinds of back surgery but i'm doing the e._s._p._n. Promo the commercial those great. This is sportscenter commercials and he's he's. He's there in the break room and i have my shirt and tie on and i pick up this chair and all of a sudden i can and he doesn't uneven budge. We're showing it right now. Oh my god i hit him. I can remember that director whoever's running thank you gotta give everything got and to see if you're going to do it do it hard and i had to hit this little pad in the middle of his back. The sound that it makes just unreal and and there's this force that knocks all these papers papers offers on a bulletin board and i'm pouring some coffee and steve's they're studying late night and i'm they're doing sportscenter and he designed. He needs a pick me up and he's okay and i and i grabbed this chair and god bless him. He doesn't flinch bill and then he goes gimme another the funny thing about the papers. It's probably an accident but it really helps. Sell how hard you're hitting on my papers fly. I am winding adding up to pound him in the back in any goes give me and i hit him again as hard as i possibly can and he doesn't flint when we first did it. I was like tapping him and you're going to have to go okay. I'm gonna guess we're not recreating that. I wasn't that tough in person. I would recreate that if he brought in that little pad that he put in the middle back on this day in sports history. This is a sad one nineteen. Ninety-five mickey mantle passed away at is longtime illness. We're trying to think about it. There's about the rankings at different places. I looked it up at some of the greatest sports names of all times it just fit easy to remember perfect for time in mickey mantles on all the different lists of all all time great sports names just so easy to remember two syllables mickey mickey mantle and the man. You're the third mickey mantle junior. This entertained sports history brought to you by continental tire exclusive tire the dan patrick show no matter what you drive drive drive. We have a tire for you. My friend who has sent me the the best snowplow movies besides talking about liam neeson in his snowplow movie to start to show the shining has a snowplow. Yeah i think scatman cruthers takes it up there and then he gets an accident the belly yes <hes> misery when james caan crashes strong with catholic income kathy bates. He never got out of the kid duty. They tricked us. 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Scarlett Johansson, Helen Mirren, Jessica Biel

Ellen on the Go

36:54 min | 1 year ago

Scarlett Johansson, Helen Mirren, Jessica Biel

"It's Ellen Degeneres welcome to my podcast we're GONNA listen to some of the best moments from the show and it's GonNa be hosted by four executive producers that I love Hi Hiney ten you heard US Jessica Biel and Justin Timberlake go clubbing in Paris three-year-old viral sensation ion diop motivates us awful romantic but I was very yeah it was I was surprised I mean even if you kind of imagine what that moment's GonNa be like it's still unlike smart and funny just yeah just all of it and she's lovely every time she's on our show but I found her to be particularly hello everyone happy Thursday I'm going to thank you not to touch my feet so happy Thursday everyone today we get to see your haunted house very excited if I choose to allow it to I'm sorry what you do not have approval sweet that you think you have that kind of power no I don't think so I I guess I I mean it seemed like something that I thought would be I mean we talked about Right Collin did a great job you look Fabulous Hill congratulations I you got engaged since the last time I saw I did yeah Dan I know one you can tell us if you want but you don't have to it's a very personal thing and it was very personal it was happy on this appearance because she got to tell the story of her engagement to Colin Jost it seemed like she wanted to tell it and yet sort of didn't want to give away too many can you talk about Scarlett Johansson because she had a wonderful appearance first of all just objectively speaking she's one of the most beautiful people on the earth yeah she has just beautiful average Andy surprise his a b kind box scrubber Kevin Plays Holy Roller with a fellow Disney fan let me read that again the single nerdiness sentence you'll ever on the go I'm your host Andy Lassiter High Andy Andy joining me is our our I'm Mary Connolly I'm currently in the second and Glavin it started rolling with fellow Disney Fan and Ellen give some tips on how to slow down in life welcome to eh a little weekend trip to new hope Pennsylvania which is a fun little rt community outside of Philadelphia on the Delaware water gap there and she found did he do it in a romantic way you don't have to say exactly what he did he killed it yeah he did like a whole James Bond situation is he was very yeah I know he's when will the wedding be so I can clear my schedule I need to know I had to clear my schedule for US Yeah Yeah you're pretty busy you are expecting that to John Thank you locked in central cute guy he is a cute on this sort of stained glass jewelry box Debussy Debbie that really that she really fancied and I told that I thought it was too expensive for for for her to buy it but she could a special moment and I think more than anything when someone tells you they want to share the rest of their life with you and and just as a it's a lovely special we finished our weekend trip in new hope and the next weekend she had plans and I drove back to new hope from to buy jewelry box not this way when I bought her engagement ring I had to get my credit limit increase on my credit cards engagement ring but I got the engagement ring in the fall with the help of a friend of ours named Alexandra Jewett he uses surprising yeah he's got a lot behind that newsdesk hiding no he's now he seems like he does he's charming and very charming and very it was like nineteen ninety got married in nineteen ninety two and it was right around Christmas break and in the fall we had gone we worked in New York we had taken man partial our engaged I really down that path now right no no were you really expecting it and thinking when is this finally going to happen tails cushy private what she ended up not giving a lot of detail but conveying how meaningful it was to her absolutely and how beautiful it was and how with balloons just one with just one single balloon a hot air balloon no there was no hot melt wasn't really that great that she wanted but it was a lot of money and she didn't and then we went to another place and she was shopping around and I ran back to that place and I said hold onto that reduction me I'm going to buy it and they put it aside Puzzle Story Kevin No did you propose I did did he propose I propose that's right I wouldn't say it was a good start with just the two of US sweet romantic a stereo and I said all right let's each one gift before we go away because we're going away for a weekend and she gave me a gift which was a book on how to play the harmonica buying up roses from data's all around all around the area so you had a lot debbie thought I was surprising here with a Christmas tree when she came home the place was buried in roses and I hid the ring in the jewelry box so we finished our last taping donohue now she's now at this point yes okay and so now we're both leaving thousands of five star reviews on trust pilot go check them out they take care of everything they design measure and install making the whole process super super simple they provide great sure and retail of custom window treatments in the US is a company you can trust they've been in business for forty years and they have an a plus in the better business bureau rating and they've got it easy by sending professionally trained design consultants right to your house they come with books and samples and the best part is it is all free there's no charge for the visit no obligation to buy and it's a beautiful moment was it like a like a balloon situation was at like an era you know something over the top like a hot air balloon to be enjoying it so I'm looking forward to seeing she's incredible in everything she does she really did there's a better way to buy blinds and window treatments and it's called three day blinds fof deal on select treatments but you have to go website three day podcasts dot com to get this special offer and use the Promo Code Ellen that's it it's the number three talk about this election my goodness there's a huge number of styles and blinds shades shutters drapes to choose from and it's all custom people three day blinds is the leading manufacture that's a good thing in the podcast now that was enough but anyway Scarlett Johansson was here promoting Joe Joe Rabbits to those people who have seen it are saying it's amazing he show this night and we now have three or four days off and I said I talked to runs marines and I'll meet you at the apartment which was in little Italy at the time and I took the subway down to literally and then ran around little Italy jury box that she didn't open it so then she turned to me and saw I guess all the blood left my head man five four three nine that's one eight seven seven nine one four five four three nine speaking of I I must have had fifteen dozen roses and I picked the song that I thought would be our wedding song which was by Marco called true companion and I put that on service great value and they work within your budget you just set up an appointment and they'll get you a quote that 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I'll tell you what I did yeah I'll tell you here's what I did I didn't fly in the family we were working at the Phil Donahue show adage she didn't tell the story we thought she was going to tell instead she told that she had gone camping with Liam Neeson take a listen I'm hearing really good things sort of risky topic to you know yeah set against the backdrop of Nazi Germany Yeah exactly and yet has some comedy and people seem got it because I did at the time guitar and I love the Harmonica and I wanted to be frustrated musician with a mullet and now you open yours and it was the jewelry box and she was so floored by the e day podcast Dot Com and use Promo Code Ellen or if you prefer your old fashioned light and you can call them at one eight seven seven nine one four Helen Mirren Yup bad s bad ass yeah I'm pretty sure she's never camping and being in a yurt right and we Sean Hayes asked the Question Sean the guest host asked the question she started talking about incredible in everything she does Dame Helen Mirren Utah Game when you see her you're on the stage and you see her on stage what do you call it Mademoiselle then I got a friend of hers to help me woman was it twelve dollars how much would be two hundred dollars for the jury box office in nineteen eighty nine that's like seventeen thousand today the very outdoorsy Helen Mirren outdoorsy. That's a yet a you're you're you're in easy so she opened it and then the ring was inside it and then I got on my God that's a that's a real that was real yeah had a bad talk show appearance nor a bad film right she is just that good she she we learned something we didn't know and what was that I'm anthony more permanent than attend more permanent and attempt yes yeah set less insulated maybe then a cabin when you do that ridiculous number three I got pulled over for driving on the wrong side of the road not while drunk the truth is and then we we we can't in this tiny little tent that and it rained all day every day we become in Cornwall and then we yeah I know we lived we lived together for four years we did yes yes when you're looking at your instagram a big fan of your instagram it's hilarious like these half photos you take and everything but also you like camping right there's another photo of you camping and INSTAGRAM AW is watching Jersey shore with Akilah on ice number two I gotta to when I was really drunk there's a thing going on here truth is that what we did yep take a listen let me listen to the clip all right we're GONNA take turns three facts about us that she had lived with Liam Niessen for four years wow one and she was supposed to be telling a story about going Turkey Sandwich I sprained my ankle doing the electric slide at a wedding oh I wanNA owned blue it's almost like a t it's almost sleepy it's more like a teepee it's supposed to be sort of better than tent not as good as a cabin right okay more actually ideally with the minibar also very good at lying turns out yes here she is playing to truth and a lie I believe it's to me the latest movie style is now and we went camping in this tiny little tent there was about the size of this table and we drove there in this tiny little card vay drop okay great okay now turn yes he'll turn okay so one of these is the truth okay number one I once went camping in Los Angeles you have a choice of either paying for cabin which is like furnished with the bathroom or something a little less which is called a Yurt and these are gorgeous no you didn't get that noise when you got it wrong because I'm the host near the guests a lot you like the outdoors you like it I've always loved camping I once went camping with Liam Neeson's because Leeann I used to date really yes we have here in Los Angeles called Glam Ping Yeah which is really embarrassing even say which is sort of a camping for the less heart for people hop in the screen two of them are lies and one will be real we have to guess which one is true about the other are you ready are you ready yeah my guilty pleasure Liam Neeson and a tiny town okay number one I have a piece of Arianna grandes hair I was arrested for stealing I need to educate you anyway look it up but those those really smart Car Liam is six foot four so he's head with some touchy topics he was driving it like this ah I didn't get that but no go jersey shore tattoo when I was really drunk pulled over for driving wrong side of the road the third one wrong which one in Santa Barbara your tend to be circular they tend to rally well if I had to choose between ten and a year I'd probably pick a four seasons bladed you'll honestly get excited about receiving box each week with recipes that satisfy each specific dietary need an are continuously delicious and you get open and you have to try played it it's the perfect meal kit that fits your Diet and schedule with over twenty recipes to choose from with plated. You're going to feel like your time belongs to you again one of the best things about your into played it is that meal planning easily fits into your schedule played it can help you spend time at the table together no matter where you are your family will look forward to your plate at nights every week with three cheese grilled cheese fudgy brownies and Pumpkin pancakes me and my fiance tried it last weekend it is so simple an awesome like oftentimes we don't Cook Month C- plated dot com slash L. in terms that's plated Dot Com Slash Ellen Jessica Biel was what's that or you got a tattoo and really drunk check out but she also told the story of her and Justin Timberlake her husband in Paris and what do you do when you're married to Justin Timberlake and the on the Indian reservation in Minnesota Okay and I was very so it must be the last one that's the truth I sprained my ankle yes nope I was arrested for stealing a Turkish in Paris that's right you go to a club and dance the night away seemingly wearing couture take a listen to make your box your own this is the only meal kit with Brunch and desert add ons some of the delicious recipes you can enjoy with planet include honey balsamic chicken thighs camping in France as well so yes I do like camping I love I like camping with Leeann niece name to your your is a round we stayed out dancing until literally three am I think we forgot that we were in our late thirties and we thought maybe we were in our early twenties or we sweat I sweat through that at beautiful outfit Yeah it was a beautiful out my gosh it was so beautiful but it I literally was ringing it out by the end of the night and I said this is going to have to be recycled Louis Vuitton shop was I mean it's so glamorous and fun when you never ever do that kind of yeah it's so cool to see that and then we I mean we really went for it are beautiful lovely married to the wonderful Justin timberlake friend of the show friend of the show just in front of the show and she was the little boy who you don't know who I on you don't know I on but you know the little boy you probably have seen him he's a little boy who's walking to school I if you're struggling to find exciting foolproof recipes that fit your diet plus fresh ingredients to make be listening on today's episode Ellen on the Go Scarlett Johansson tells us about Colin Romantic proposal to her Helen Mirren Camps With Liam Nielsen in Bolt and made into some sort of tote bag or something yeah so when you and Justin go to a club and are dancing that that's a good statement when we go to cool doing affirmations himself I love it so much I love that he's the he's the boy who says I am smart I can do anything promoting the show lime town that Ellen loved Yellen loves everything Jessica Biel elements crazy about the center yes she'd Love Jessica Biel Yeah but a show promoting lime town which you should definitely you all were in Paris Justin and that seemed like that was a lot of fun it was a lot of fun you went to all the fashion shows or just just one just one being next Justin Timberlake do they just kind of give up and move away yeah you can you just give up and move away and sort of admire more of you throw out your best moves and see what sticks that must've been so fun though it's so much fun we should talk about ion ion other and then like just brought us together we had it and then we had a delicious dinner right there in our kitchen experience your own meals worth making go to play dot com slash L. to save twenty five percent on your first well it is but it just we never go right ever yeah but you did we did you dance and then what is what does that like for everybody to kind of be dance slow yeah well that's club this club what would you go to we went to the place called maxine it's that not a club was a Dutch oven I didn't know what she does no I didn't know what it is like six you didn't know what to God I will end what I love is his parents like how brilliant of them to teach that boy at a young age what's important and what to be saying yourself so can you just want to be part of that families the kid you just think my life would be better if I was around them more matching wardrobe I always wanted to wet all right so so you've heard ion I was in a conversation with the four of us about what he'd be wearing to do this live shot we talked about a slight costume we do and never said so well and you know I just wanted him to have something positive to say for himself and on that particular day he to the people I know who have gotten it love it and usually people who ordered these boxes subscription boxes are people who order a few subscription boxes are into that whole thing and they consistently say and these are people who are very honest with me because they tell me things they don't like they say that Ellen's subscription boxes amazing and you we did the idea was for me to hand deliver to one of our subscribers of the ellen box who happened to be in Andy Ladner fan exactly to have me show anything with so much purpose in that I keep finally like could understand it right can do anything really big yeah yeah when did you start teaching him to say those affirmations well I started teaching him when he turned to and it's something that we don't

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AP Headline News Feb 05 2019 17:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

04:30 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Feb 05 2019 17:00 (EST)

"Space some regions are vast empty other areas we call closets. Fortunately, Kevin from the container store has answers. Right. Kevin. What gives you the power over space? I'd say alpha, customizable, closets with free, design and Elvis adjustable shelving and drawers, I can create space in any size closet. Kevin master of space and closets or just Kevin plus right now save thirty percent on elfin installation and earn up to five hundred dollars credit through February tenth at the container store where space comes from who wears music coming from. AP radio news. I'm Ed Donahue one week later. That originally scheduled President Trump is getting ready to deliver his state of the union address the AP saga megani has a preview. The White House says he'll be calling for unity in his first speech to a divided congress, but political analysts David Barker says the president will focus more on a recent a bid to undo the perception that he's weakened after the government shutdown and by Democrats taking the house. This is his opportunity to try to make the case. I think mainly to his base than no, no, no. That's not right. How will the speech itself? Play. George Washington University is Larry Brown doesn't think it matters. I think he likes just dominating the news conversation. Saga megani? Washington earlier. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer got the president's attention saying President Trump comes up with the idea of unity on state of the Union Day. And the president spends the other three hundred sixty four days of the year. Dividing us the president heard that. And said on Twitter Schumer hasn't seen his speech. And the minority leader is upset because Democrats didn't take over the Senate. In November a source tells the AP President Trump has a leader in mind for the World Bank. Here's the AP's. Warren levinson. A senior administration official confirmed the president plans to nominate World Bank skeptic David mopus to lead the institution Malpas claims the multinational organization, which has always been led by the United States is too focused on its own prestige. He's been critical of its lending practices, claiming they create mountains of debt without solving poverty, problems cities, like Seattle, Las Vegas and San Francisco are getting a cold taste of winter. Rare snow and cold wallet, Portland, Oregon. There was some light snow in the ground in parts of Las Vegas. San Francisco had its first not noticeable snowfall eight years lawmakers and Mississippi are again killing bills to remove the confederate battle emblem from the last flag in the US to display it on Wall Street. The Dow finished up one hundred seventy two points. This is AP radio news. The premiere of Liam Neeson's newest film, coal pursuit was abruptly cancelled because of fallout from Neeson's comments about decades old thoughts. He had about killing a black person upon learning that someone close to him had been raped. I'm not racist. I I this was nearly forty years ago. Nissan was on ABC's. Good Morning, America. I did seek help. I went to priest ever my confession. I was rare to Catholic a two very very good friends that I talked to and I'm believe it or not power walking PowerBook. Yeah. Two hours every day. To get rid of this niece. And also said talk about these things is needed because bigotry and racism exist. ABC says modern families next season will be its last modern family has been on the air for ten seasons. It's currently seen by nearly five million viewers of week. I'm Ed Donahue, AP radio news. Space some regions are vast and empty other areas. We call closets. Fortunately, Kevin from the container store has answers. Right. Kevin. What gives you the power over space? I'd say alpha, customizable, closets with free, design and Elvis adjustable shelving and drawers, I can create space in any size closet. Kevin master of space and closets or just Kevin plus right now save thirty percent on elfin installation and earn up to five hundred dollars in credit through February tenth at the container store where space comes from. Where's that coming from space? Some regions are vast and empty other areas. We call closets. Fortunately, Kevin from the container store has answers. Right. Kevin. What gives you the power over space? I'd say alpha, customizable, closets with free, design and Elvis adjustable shelving and drawers, I can create space in any size closet. Kevin master of space and closets or just Kevin plus right now save thirty percent on elfin installation and earn up to five hundred dollars in credit through February tenth at the container store where space comes from. Where's that coming? Trump.

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Episode 477 - The Commuter

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1:53:40 hr | 8 months ago

Episode 477 - The Commuter

"This is a head gamut passed this week on the program. Don't even get US started about this New Yorker geography. It's the commuter Manjoo Stevens Sadek. Eric Cisco Chris Cabin and we ate movies. Hello everyone welcome to movies tuning in as always. Welcome to the first quarantined edition of our fine show. Wait a second. We're doing the commuter on this show this week and we can't commute. What's that about dude? It's cruel irony is what it's about my friend. Does everybody have tinfoil up around there. Studios got a tin foil. Hat on my head testicles. I keep newspapers on the windows just as a matter. Of course Steve's interior decorating fuck diaper after me. Oh and they are dude absolutely. Yeah I take all my safety. Nods from William freaking bug with the tin foil reflect the the snipers laser back Adam. Laser focused the scope thing. And then he's someone's shooting at me now sure I will say. It is tough to Because just me and my wife and two cats in this apartment. It's hard not to feel like you're in bug sometimes. It's what Steve is as you light each other on fire over there. I think you do it all right. We're day three. We'll see how it goes. Yes we should say. This is being recorded March. The eighteenth twenty twenty for posterity sake are knee deep in this global catastrophe. Right now Talking about the computer the computer talking to our computers. Yes that's about the commuter quickly up top one. I mentioned there was some concern over this. We tore scheduled for June share. We as of now it is on them. So you know we will see and then you know what if. Shit continues to happen. We will figure it out from there folks but let's not try to get ahead of ourselves here But in the meantime this is the commuter from two thousand eighteen directed by Michael. Clint Sarah you may remember him from a few weeks ago. We talked about his movie orphan. this movie also is terrible. I was requested. It was requested by our buddy jove from Longdale California. Let's hear what he had to say. Hey guys this is Joel from California and I'm calling in to request twenty eight teams the commuter starring Liam Neeson Gets ABOUT HIM? Trying to figure out a mystery plane around train rather and It's really reminded me of those Big budget legitimate budget action movies of the nineties like Steven Seagal. And some of the Lesser Bruce Willis stuff And Yeah it's a stupid. If you ride the show thank and here we go. Yeah this is a it's a Liam niessen movie this is Liam Neeson's stars in the boomer And I can tell that. He's definitely a boomer. Ask older figure because the opening montage of this movie is Waking. Up to ten ten wins every day. This is insane. This is like groundhog day. But with Lia Lee's yeah God out early of Niessen Yokota you're GONNA see a shadow. I'll tell you that much puncture Tony. I mean this diner eating whatever I want. I just put it anywhere pal. Morons your buses leaving the mortal it sticks to be in this red neck Pennsylvania town because I can't find any black stick at a device with. Oh I'll find a black wandering the street at night Liam Neeson's I literally said I. I'll never get over this no one. There is no mind. Charles Xavier's machine doesn't exist. No one knows what you've fantasized about. So don't say you're racist fantasies to people and you'll be just fucking fide. Idiot being confessional. He thought he was being a good guy by saying this gourmet some points. Wait a second. Are you from the Catholic Church or access tonight? You've got one of those Charles. Xavier remind machines. Better come clean about the racist fantasies. Niessen was doing a no Vena before. Interviewed Him Aleve. Niessen was picked on the nitpicked up on the Nixon White House tapes There's another weird thing is the Nixon White House or the white has in general. This is the movie came out in two thousand eighteen and part of like the the News Radio Show. You here is like yeah. There's without about Hillary Clinton's campaign and you're like we would y what the fuck are you talking about that for? Its skipping around. I mean it's supposed to be like is this book. It's like a couple years all the years. I think it's supposed to be or could be because it's came in his son and his son. Have they have this thing? Anyone noticed that the sun is by the way of looking at era. Who's this Mogo? Tell me I didn't and by the way I want to add a million now that we're not doing this at Andrews did you print out a bunch of TV at home or no. That's why I have a little asked by gave today. I can't I get sit around on a train. I can't be a commuter computer over there of a fat guy. Podcast is in word detective with that. Is it up on the cork board like true detective. Yes there's little strings. This son is tolman Barath NAP is a Barassie. And it's been a while. Oh Yes yes. Foreman giants pain. It depends on who you ask. You know. Some people will tell you this. Lie that that that it's really thome in Lancaster right because you know the the twins. They're you know what I'm saying. Yes he was. He's also the The fat guy in nineteen seventeen the time until just last night. That guy is By the way stone there's two guys one guy skinny one guy is not. You could say the plump soldier George McKee is very thin and also Stephen Sadek Reading for the plump soldier could've just said the one. That looks like Ben Shapiro. Oh man that's unfortunate So yeah that's his kid. His wife is played by Elizabeth McGovern See of course previous episode a shock to the system. How yeah yes. She's The lady interest in that and then of course She's on Downton Abbey. One of my favorite parts in this thing. So what are the bits he has with? His kid is like or read in books together. Because I'm a commuter on a train so I read the book that you read in school after. Do All your schoolwork because I made a billy matter should Essex. I really need to pass that hurt born. I fail the festival. He's a the reading Lord of the flies. What departure you at? Because Oh midway through chapter five and he goes oh the part where they almost killed that kid hooting and hollering also as an sixty year old ban if it takes you more than forty one minutes to read the Lord of the flies era illiterate forty nine pages triple space. It's good to know that I have a little over twenty years to to read it that fast I S I. I love the part. Wedneday meet the Lord of the flies and he gives them the Magic Sword. That's just stop okay. So it's a better book. We'll talk about do they. Fucking drop a rock on that kid. It's Awesome Accountability Cristo. A great sat book about that Sandwich. Dad You're not doing Turkey and cheese. I came at 'cause playing for naked lunch. Boy was that a mistake. I came I showed up naked gun and they lie young for Halloween. I'm going as naked. Gosh I loved all the talking mice in of mice and men wonderful characters fantasy world like that. That's right I'm Reid. I'm playing thanked. Rabbi an naked gun conduct undeterred. Or whatever where he reads the book okay show his purple headed warrior. I actually think that Rather thousands around Now that he's in his older days and he's just serious actor he'd be if he ever wanted to reboot the The naked gun series. He'd be not so bad. Sure as Frank Driven Yeah. Kinda sort of like you and that's when Leslie Nielsen was never had the race problem but you know I mean frank. Tremon character kind of plays everything straight. But he's and it seems aloof given. The scenarios is limping. He's never done a comedy like an intentional comedy. He's popped up in some bits. He's not a he can't carry a cop movie. There was the commuter. That's one of them a nonstop unknown goody doing the Lego Movie Steve. He was the cop and like it's I I don't remember it's been a trillion years. I if he was I think he's a sort of a bad guy in that movie. But it's like he's he's really serious and it's very funny the way he's so serious. Gotcha I can't believe it. Forgot it. Schindler's List I but I knew betterman bad cavity you know. We're in the midst of a global catastrophe or no. I'll I'll save the mood. Right out Yonder Lego COP. Yeah you're blocking off in there and I can hear that you're blocking off. Indeed this movie also see so I was complaining at the at the top of my little zinger at the top of the episode about the geography which is dumb. But this movie's one of its biggest sins. Also presupposing that New Yorkers fucking talk to complete strangers on their commutes like this who note that is patently incorrect. I'm vaguely I commute every day to work or I had up to up to a point and I. I'm vaguely aware of like. Oh it's that woman. Oh it's that guy you know what I mean like you. You sure basis recognize the faces the patterns. But I don't see a fucking word to these people let alone no I. You have a particularly unique set of skills that I could explain that there are there are such a thing and I can say this because in this movie the commuter the commute ends up being to cold spring and out myself now that I live in cold spring. It's a small small town north of New York City and there are like track buddies like you hang out on the platform waiting for the train to New York in. Sometimes people strike up a conversation if you look like me not so much but I took a socializing me again. Not so much. I've had like maybe two people get any type of real conversation with me and I mean some people have said. Hi if you see some from the town I get it but like generally like I don't have a commute buddy. John Banks some hanging out with. I can actually back this up because I I. I'm in connect I take. Mta Two and one thing. I thought was ridiculous. First Time I saw this movie was like the chummy ticket checker that I now have a chummy. Like strain out Frank Capra movie. I think there's something in place all so you don't get too familiar with your ticket taker. The where they after a while they will change their shifts. I remember it was like three months with one guy and then three months with another guy. I don't think they want you to familiar. Because then maybe they'll let someone off the fair share although the one. I totally buy that. The one time. Though that any of this was really made an exception. I saw a story in one of those like you know Metro. Amber you know one of the local paper e type things that you get when you're like going on the train and there was a story about a metro north train conductor who was retiring and the people in like one car that we're like the regulars like through a retirement party and I was like you've gotta be kidding. All of these people are breaking the agreement. I could see it happening. Dude I really can. It's unbelievable I took the train. I've I've worked out of the city at the Burns for thirteen years. I've often on owned cars to drive there but for a large portion of it. I took the train and I didn't talk to a single fucking soul. Man I really did. No I mean you're Westchester me. And we in Chris. Cabinet live in CAPRA country. More of a small town Westchester still kind of feels like the city. There's that Abrasiveness to the People God and I need it. I will say this. I mean like seeing the same ticket taker every day. I get talking to that person. Because that's like it's a service industry thing it'd be an asshole like you don't even that's fine and have a polack at fourth with the Guy. Yeah politeness but again I'm not talking. I'm the last person absolute last person. I'm talking to is Jonathan Banks. An old guy who's just talking about. How soon is to death like no? Thanks Dude I'm cool. Absolutely also what is he doing going downtown everyday? Like don't understand his thing of going from Second Street two hundred twenty fifth street. I'm addicted prostitutes. Walter Income Day in and day out. I just go and meet with his sex worker. Hey back in the day you used to be able just do in grand central station you up against the wall and you do it but now you need a motel room in eighth of how to buy some shampoo a money will to Walter. All you have to do is sit down to the shoeshine spots that will give you ball. Shines confusingly enough his name in this waltz. Yes so it's like a Jonathan Banks's name. Yeah did not notice that at all all you know. It's it's it's fun hanging out with your wallet. Could you shut the fuck up? Please exact try. I'm trying to read. It's taken me an hour to read the fucking the Lord of the lies over here. I'll be getting made fun of on podcast and it's because you're distracted me so this is the second time I've seen this film and the first time I did think. His commute was two hundred and Twenty-fifth Street. Which would make no sense. But in this scene. He says that he's going to get out for a beer or go to a bar somewhere. It see that's I noticed that too and I love this because it's like Oh man Walter I fucked with three stops on this train and now I gotta get off and have a fuck good beer already. Exactly that's a problem. And He's twenty th those. Those long commutes are not cheap. Derides spending twenty bucks. I can't make it washburn correct unless you have a a monthly pass which costs like three to four hundred dollars a month and you could ride the train all all you want your flash and you can get on and off wherever in two years zone. Yes but he conceivably he could have spent twenty dollars a few blocks if like a single ticket but also by the way you could drink on those trains. It's fucking it's Shangri la on the metro north you guys. It is kind of lawless with the with regard to alcohol absolutely. I'm also pissed off. Not One single joke about the quiet car in this movie which leads me to believe the person who wrote it is not actually familiar with New York commuting. Not at all. Was that the one where the was out. Was it the quiet broken? Oh no but it should have been you know where like Lebanese and like kills a guy and he's like I said this was the quiet car which was my fucking fantasy. You know what we're going to keep going but my cat's about the job in the cabinet. So that's gotTa stop this thing. Close the cabinet. This isn't working from home episode. Everyone there with us so in a stroke of pure hilarity Liam Niessen is Call callously fired from his job of ten years as an insurance salesman. Yes he says he has to mortgages by the way which is like why would you ask two thousand and eight no a second mortgage on the House Gop? Yes I believe. That's what the deal is. It was like oh no. I'M GONNA lose my my cabin in the woods. I keep my Merman. How else am I supposed supposed to support my second family to my second family? I've got one family in tarrytown where I live and another in cold spring dude all right. Let's get to that really quickly before we go any further. Every single person in this movie mispronounces the name of that town. The the accentuation is on the word cold not the words spring. It's called spring. Yeah everyone this movie is called Spring. Hey we're going to cold spring we're going to call spraying. Try to fuck it up the wall. It's a lot it's a lot. Yeah and I guarantee you. There had to be at least one person. One person on the crew of this film that was had to be familiar with the area and had to should've taken it upon themselves to be like. Hey WAMAE Mr Collazo Sara. Sorry it's cold spring not cold spring. All right I'll take it again. Are you going to call sprung? Annex dish has apartment. Just go back to the first thing you were saying. It's fine it's fine it's fine. It's so weird I. She won fat guy with all these. Imdb pages. But I'm going through another fat guy's house subtype of fat conspiracy. I do like in this one movie for one for some reason. They're like dude. Just be Irish. They they like because they say it's the beginning it's like came from Ireland. Fucking God right there. It's like everybody can let their guard down. This movie can breathe a little bit. Fucking weird voice makes sense. Finally I'm John Thomson and I was born in the middle of Kentucky like it so dumb that movie. What the fuck was that movie? We did years ago with him and swayze next of kin. Yeah yes I'm I'm just from this holiday. Yeah maybe they fucking self isolate their. I'm from the South side of Chicago. So he gets fucking fired and he's given some severance and this is a whole thing where his kids go to college the two mortgages on the house. They're living hand to mouth kind of thing. He goes to a bar and meets with. Patrick Wilson playing Alex Murphy Hilarious so excited I got Excited Grocott movie become Roebuck are like doing a script like this. You somebody on some team needs to. This is the name of we can't. He's robocup that it's GonNa be that same guy that knew how to pronounce Cold Springs. Bagai also point fucking Patrick Wilson would be a great robocup. That is a great call. Chris Cabin part. Is that a good lower third of his face. Actually that's what you want. Perfect yes. He needs the jaw. You're totally right and actually that mouth to not to not I would also I would take Liam Neeson as it clearance Bodecker. Oh I'm in Faulk Betcha. Leave him as a bad guy I would. I Really WanNa see that got. Thank you could fly bobby. Well he's Cabinet Levi's it as a bad guy man. Let me point you back to that press. Junket WELL SHORT. I what are you saying? He's a bad guy widows right. Yeah but he doesn't like Ham. Oh I wanted to. Yeah I want him twirling a nonexistent mustache. Also in this scene Sam Neo. Who SAYS WILLIAM FREEZE? Yes Sam Neill as the. He's like a police captain who they both kind of. Hey I wrote it in my notes. Sam Neill as Captain Scumbag. He's captain red herring because like. Yes because when you see Patrick Wilson immediately. If you're me I'm like he's a bad guy. You know what I mean like okay. My old friend. Patrick Wilson is. He's the bad guys gonNA betray. Yeah and then I guess the ideas they bring Sam Neill to sort of take some Heat off a Patrick Wilson there yet veritably. Yeah they definitely do because like he comes over there all the bar and he's like. Oh Patrick Wilson I need to talk to you about something Blah Blah Blah and then like Patrick Wilson Talk Shit about him says Oh yeah. They already made him a captain. Blabbity Blah. He's trying to throw some heat. That way definitely yeah. It all depends on whether you're a possession. Fan Or an Aquaman fan is is. Oh yeah that's right that's right. I forgot about him an article man. Yeah Patrick Wilson. Yeah Dude. He's he's like James Warns Muse and also he's in he's riding a seahorse seeing that. Yes we're for my business movie and they're like Patrick. Wilson from is the dispenser and Pepper Tracy and Hepburn of mid-tier thrillers. Absolutely true and it's kind of crazy because they don't share a scene in his movie there like fake talking over the phone to one another But yeah it's weird because I see her in a movie and I've previously seen him in this movie already so when she comes in. Is this a paranormal thriller? I wish it was due to all I as a matter of fact. Yes you're trying to hunt down this witness to a crime but also this train is haunted. Yup Haunted train better movie by a million Definitely witnesses ghost all witness. The witness threw themselves in front of a train. Ran Out a window yet but in my news. Oh sure as out now there goes to stuck in the train and now Liam Neeson has to communicate with the ghost. A totally Hubbard twenty years ago tonight. Midnight tonight okay. Wall to get out to we. Jeapordy communicate. You got it Walter. Wouldn't be the first dead girl I tried talking to by the way. I'm addicted to sex workers. So they get to the artificial eighty sixth street and Lexington Station Metro North loudly. That there's sixty eighth street. Which by the way they shot at hunters point Queens. We CONNECTION UGLY FOR IT. Might be the subway station. They're using a green screen background or it might be. I think there's a long island railroad hub out there. There definitely is. Yeah and then they stop at eighty sixth street and then they stop at one hundred ten th street and it's like these are like local subway routes the entire purpose of a commuter train and it just it drove me up the fucking wall. It's very local. I understand that. Yes love taken the commuter train. Walter it takes me three and a half hours to get to white plains out instead listeners. That's a thirty minute. So but at this eighty sixth street station. You know he makes contact. Finally with Vera Farm Megan. Who's kind of been eyeing him like job at the bank says like hey wall? Do you look sexy broads. Watch new or what she's looking at. You like a sex worker would trust me. I know you got a pro on the train. Walter. Probably give you a discount. There man and her character's name is Joanna. She introduces herself as some sort of Social scientists or something. Yeah like he gets to see it and she sits across from him and he's being a real pig on the straight he's got his big fucking bag. He's got a four seater. He's got bag on the other side of the Aisle. No Way Dude. And these mother fuckers exist in trained commuting men they should be expelled from trains Yeah so she's like. Hey what kind of person are you and lays out this whole thing That at first is like a hypothetical and then you realize that. The plot of the movie mogul psychology tells us there are this many personality tests. Do you gotta you gotTa cite his source here. You just can't say psychology. Yeah I don't know. She says sixteen personality types accepted by psychology. And I'm like art movie. I guess I have to take your word for it but you know I don. I mean it was just weird because I would expect her to hand me a note card with a smiley sticker on telling me that if I want to give to her. I can give her a take this sticker and give her a dollar happy dude. You're telling me there's only sixteen types of skulls and phonology and I have to feel everyone going cold so yeah the basic layout is like. Hey there's twenty five k. And the toilet you can go grab that and then you got to identify someone on this train who goes by. Prynne and you have to like identify them and give them something and they're on the train until cold spring right and it turns out to be like you put a tracker on them or whatever all right put a tracker in their bag because then the conspiracy is like someone's GonNa show to kill them to stop them from testifying about a murder city. Planner the thing about this. She starts it off as a hypothetical. Like what would you do to somebody? You didn't know for a bunch of money which is like six sort of A. I guess you could call that like something that is somewhat relatable but like every second she keeps talking and becomes less relatable and less of a hypothetical what the fuck this is stupid it also becomes closer and closer to the plot of that Richard. Matheson Story Barks yes. That's all I thought about the whole time. I was like this is just the box. The first doping. Where's Frank Langella with that fucked up face please? Isn't that a good movie? It federated in this one. I liked it also cabinet. You used the word great though. Is that correct? I I really liking it and I don't know why that that I I think it was just three strikes in or two strikes. A box office receipts. Why Richard Kelly's movie jail but it's funny that poor bastard though. 'cause it's I mean because one. Donnie Darko there. Were No box office receipts. But it was a thing where it was like. Hey man you didn't come up with two more instant cult classics urine movie jail. Yes you know what I mean. That really got the shaft. It's true I wonder if he's a famous a whole. That's possible yeah. I don't know so anyway. So that's the whole idea. And he goes into the bathroom. He finds the money And basically the one before we get into more of this. There is ever recall the terrible. Cgi shot of like. Here's all the people on the train that he has the lower right. Edit just going back through all the cars. Pretty Tom. It's a fake David. Fincher shot kind of yes definitely but so there's a girl that gets on at one hundred ten street and she's like a little teenage girl and she's like. Hey Salim Niece and did you make your decision yet? Are you in or are you out at? He's like Oh you know you've made your decision or whatever and she gives him an envelope and jumps back off. The train and the envelope is his wife's wedding ring inside Dunton. Well this is after. He starts fishing around in the in the in the metro. North bathroom to. He's on his hands. It's disgusting now. Also I sh- again. I WANNA point. I know it's a everybody but that bathroom is way cleaner than any. Irl public bathroom in this town took the words right out of my mouth was about to jump right in and say that is not authentic. I mean if you did this in an actual. Mta fucking bathroom. You would be like you chose the Wrong Cup. I think an MTA bathroom was actually. How the corona virus got start at mix. I mean let's actualize every people. It's a moving train. I have seen toilets on these trains. So full that it's a slash with Piston Shit and starting to spill over and you're going to be digging for money on your hands and knees. It sounds like a great game show Art Japan. You'd get out of there looking like Bruce Campbell at the end of evil dead to you just lack car laughing. Maniacally I mean. I'm sure people who have commuter rails and their towns deal with similar bathroom situations but I just feel like. New York's are particularly terrible. Yeah so any funny Grand is a lot of dough and five now. But you'll get seventy five of you do the job so it's one hundred grand. It's a real old right right right right right right. So he kind of has an encounter here with one of several shitty stock characters that the use of this movie and it's a weird thing where like when he's getting on the train initially and he's walking around like the camera stops off at characters to let you know that they will be characters later in the movie the most obnoxious of which is Tony. Like just this like short little business guy or whatever and like Liam Neeson's calling him Tony's their first name fucking basis. Get OUT OF TOWN. Will he goes. Hey Tony every TEGAS wife's. He's he finds his wife's wedding ring. Hey Tony I lost by phone can I use yours? And the answer is not dude. Also excuse great reason why you never talked to anybody on the fucking train. I'm not your buddy no way dude. I am not helping you out there. Who might be a chance that this dude also lives in Tarrytown or some things you all my neighbor in the apartment complex. I know him very well. He lets his azaleas grow in little to Ueli. Nearly if you ask me if it was basically all you know what I know Sam takes a six fifteen even though it. Kinda MAKES ME LATE FOR WORK. I take six thirty because I don't WanNa be that closer to stab all the time. What do you think of? When you hear the words citrus. Is it orange slices after a soccer game or a lemon wedge and your water at your favorite restaurant yes and yes? But another thing that citrus springs to mind sharing because citrus was literally made to be shared and no one knows that better than sunkist sunkist grows the type of citrus. You can't wait to peel or add your favorite recipe. 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Oh No 'cause he's got he's got this gruff voice and he's he's got a great gruff voice excellent gruff voice. Yeah he gets poison. Oh yeah one. One thing about the rings I was like I'm like maybe just shows a maybe I'm a shitty husband. If maybe my wife Spring I am I supposed to put this on. Like what are you Gonna? Unlock something you know like. It's just a wedding bed. I wouldn't be like oh I wouldn't just immediately like oh. That's my wife's wedding this you just you just throw it out. You wouldn't recognize lives banned. Yeah I would be like. Oh Am I supposed to put this? I really would be. Is this like a? Gps My supposed to put this on the why need a second. Gps is why no one selects you to be in their murder conspiracy all right. He didn't get it. What what we do. We have any ever hair. No all right Mr Cabin when I stop on your feet. Oh so he I love it so this is Mike. The cleaners final bow here in one of the greatest moments of his movies so Liam Neeson's sits down next to him and they're kind of like shooting the shit for a little bit and Liam Neeson's thinks he's like slyly writing out on a newspaper like call the police. They have my family this that and the other thing and he's like all right. I have to do some more train inspection. Now have a good day. Thank God but look how much has transpired right like so much of this. Movie's plot has occurred before. We even get to Harlem which is ten twelve thirteen minutes from grand central terminal under fifteen. That's exactly it would take again. It would take you fucking two hours to get to cold spring. It's the usual eighty minutes. He does like Passes them the newspaper and he walks away and the John of the banks gets off the train. And Joanna calls back if you're for my caused back and she's like hey man f. y. We have is on you. You just got your fucking friend killed. And he's like what do you mean and you know. She tells them which way to look out the train at its Jonathan banks like just waiting to cross the street and someone pushes them in front of a bus. This was so funny Sa Malaria's it really it's fucking laughing. We saw the Eric and Eric wasn't there. I believe it was Andrew. Chris and I right. I didn't I think maybe it was just the two of US dude with the two of us and we were pretty drunk. I remember laughing out loud in the theater and kind of getting a look. 'cause everyone's like Sweden come on. It's funny as pop dope it absolutely dude. I do think we got some like. Are they being serious right now? A man just lost his life. I just love that. He's like muttering to himself. Why while it's about to happen. He's I now they make you buy condoms before you used to be able to go free. Willy Nilly upped Walter. The list girl told her. I gave her something blacklisted. Walter Collapse impregnates. Six prostitutes all of a sudden near the bad Guy Walter. I told her that. That giving her the clamp was like an applause. Oh you know getting Getting stink as at the movies for laughing at inappropriate. Times reminds me of a cabinet there when we did the big staff screening of snakes on a plane and by staff screening. I mean a bunch of people that worked at the multiplex went to a public screening of the film. And like everybody was fucking laughing at this movie and one of the managers came in at one point and like chastised our entire row. And she's like Someone came out and we received a complaint that you're laughing during this movie. A movie in where people are losing their lives. And that's not something to laugh about and we were like who the fuck NARC Donnas fucking snakes on a and that's the whole point isn't it? Yeah it's that's what I thought serious film. It's a serious film to be taken seriously. I'm just picturing something like Hans. Moamen motherfucker like why are they laughing at the movie? That man was bitten by a snake. Came here to be frightened of snake. I want to refer to the snag lease mad at any day. Forget what it was like back in the day when there were actual snakes on planes in the Middle Of Upright. You could smoke on planes. You could snake on a Don Don Don draper selling snake repellent for Trevor Planes. They took you there. You're alone you're in your zone you closing your eyes. The last thing you want to think about when you're on your cross country flight to do your business is whether or not you may be bitten by a snake while you're meditating. Don't you WANNA feel safe on a plane save from snakes? I would love it man I I kind of. I'm almost like I haven't really watched madman. Steve Yuri watching me. And that's why I came up. I saw your your tweets on then. I'm Kinda getting jealous. I'm like I want more seasons kind of a relaxed. It's like both tense and relaxing and especially in the where we are right now. Oh the sixties were fun man when the The you know the biggest threat against US was. I don't know I guess Cuba and what smoking in the office. And I you know. Kennedy's GonNa get eventually but you know what's going to happen. Yeah right listening to this. Have no idea what's going to happen. All the you know more than us because this is a like a week or so. That's true So yeah a dude Vera for Megan like kind of makes them more veiled threats again. Right not veiled threats. Whatever If you do it now on the phone now right on Tony's funny told him Dude fucking minutes. Are we still worrying about phone? Minutes in two thousand eighteen. No but I mean Tony Bite. Who Does what plan he's got? That's true that looking shitty honey. Sorry that fuck it. Irish guy used my phone up. I can't call us. Oh Yeah your best friend Irish Mike that you talk about from your commute. All the time tall is good. Look at. He's kind of creepy where they used my phone. I was too afraid to ask for back. I thought he was going to beat me up honey. Oh we have a little thing. He's Irish Mike. I'm Italian Tony. How it's something from the train gang. That's what we call ourselves. It's kind of like chain gang but train. Oh I don't know we think it's funny prison. An old Walter got bird today. Who Else Sees Walter get it? I'm curious because I feel that would make everyone a little uneasy on the on the train will. Tony has something right after. It happens where he's like. Hey did you see what happened? But I don't think he actually did like people down on one hundred twenty fifth street. See It yes. Oh Yeah I guess it makes sense. 'cause it's a crowd of people you just see this dude shove him. So what are the conductors? He's asking this conductor like so. Hey there I'm looking for a friend. Who's getting off at cold spring And the dudes like go. Fuck yourself man. We don't keep track of WHO's getting off at. What stop it? He tells them about what he takes the tickets and puts the like you paid piece of paper down. He has to do a little stamp on which zone. They're supposed to get off at so they know if they've written past their stop. What I love about this too is like I. I knew that overriding the train for like a year. And he's been writing it for like ten chance if you figure that out pretty quickly twice. Oh the I'm in a three because I'm going this far. Oh five because I'm going even farther. I fucking figured it out exactly. Also by the way the end of the line on this particular train is cold. Spring which also makes zero sense. Cults brings like a super local stop. No they're in There in beacon at the end of the movie because they blow past it. Yes Oh it is supposed to be the end of the line. Conductors says that it is Train is terminating a cold spring down to the line. I don't know that is pretty just might as well stop by indictable. There is a mentioned like in Grand Central. There is announcement of Hudson train to poughkeepsie. And I'm like that's more like it. That's the end of the line Massing the list of. Who's going to get off at this thing at correct in that zone and this would meet kind of our cast of rogues which is one. Is this Wall Street? Guy Who's like a total fucking flimflam Straw man that I can't even deal with this guy. This character is fucking obnoxious. And what's worse is that? This actor looks like a thirty year. Old Ralph Macho yes. Yes so that was Kinda thrown. May So he tries to like interrogate him for a little bit and the guy is basically like he's putting Liam Neeson is pretending that he's like looking to invest money or whatever and the guys I worked for the biggest hedge fund in the world. I don't deal with people like you and Blah Blah Blah and this is I remember this specifically Steve. Letsie of you do very vivid memory is a he leaves this guy and then he comes back and he goes all by the way Mr Goldman Sachs on behalf of the American middle class. Fuck you and he gives them the finger Steve. Do you recall as I do definite applause in the theater? It was embarrassing. I love it by the way. Great local joke the Goldman Sachs asshole. Guy Gets off at garrison the people who also read that train. No people like me now financial crisis sense. It makes total sense. I love it. It's nice realistic. Touch financial crisis stuff is fine. But it's like it's I don't understand like the whole let's make Liam Neeson one of us. He's not one of us. This is fucking six and a half but fucking Irish God. He's never should've key. I'm sorry but like this movie takes place in two thousand eighteen and like yes fuck those people 'til they're nothing but dust but like that shit was ten years before the release of this movie like when the story is set. Like nobody's still telling people to go fuck themselves that. Maybe maybe maybe this movie wants us to learn a little. Something Ain't been in a coma five to fucking do it. That's that's fine but like you stop the movie dead unfurling American Flag. Throw Confetti. I'd say fuck you Goldman Sachs. It's fucking stupid. It's like the Spiderman moment of the move Shit spider-man's. Hey you mess with one of us you mess with all of us. Exactly actually wait a minute. Lift up that mask real quick okay. Yeah he's one of us all right. Wait a second spider man. I saw what happened. Stock Industries okay. Fuck you'll your those magic fuck and glasses malone who lost their lives in the incident talk your how the fuck does Peter Parker not. Have those glasses destroyed at the end of that movie? That movie's trash. I'm sorry you're talking about far from home. Yeah not seen it yet. He gets glasses. That Ba- like it's these Tony. Stark invention of he can basically like hack into whatever with these glasses and violate anyone's fucking privacy whatsoever. Call Endurance Drones Day strikes which he does. Oh Yeah and then. It's like the end of the movie. Should've been him being like. These are dangerous and destroying them. But if I'm remembering that movie correctly and I was drunk because I was an Alamo draft house back when you go see movies in theaters. It was a different time like the movie. Just ends without him destroying. He's back to he's like. Oh you know what I feel. So bad Mr Mr Stock. His his Mister Fury you're you're part of the fuck American the American industrial complex. Why don't you have them? Oh that's the fuck at worst fucking shield. I don't trust you know you guys fucking kill people. Willy Nilly Eddie's ways why don't you take him touch give it to to to the actual deep state. Yeah correct if only that was a real thing folks if only attribution buried with this Batterman we should say actually the Wall Street Guy Ebbs and there is a What do you call a A A younger girl whose high school girl who he like sitting next to and he offends her because he's being loud on his phone just trying to read what you know what offends me. Is Cheap fucking purview? Because I know it's fucking ridiculous. She's like do you mind and he goes. Yeah Mind you fucking ninety nine cent perfume. Oh Market Oh man. Now we're watching the big short. Yay and so she gets up. And that's sort of an important thing for the end of the stupid movie correct We also then meet a pre fame. Florence Pugh who has some dude with his fucking pause all over and she's not having it and this fucking lady another like friend on the train of Liam Neeson's is like millennials I walked you again. Look I understand. This movie is for older people. I very much get it. Like we don't need to have the Golden Sachs they. Late millennials. Bit. Hey millennials on behalf of our bumershed faulk you but that's what I don't get about part of this though. I mean aren't boomers like fine with all that Goldman Sachs stuff. There's no fucking complaining. They got they got grease pretty hard Oh I guess like their retirement said well yeah totally man but yet they keep like voting for the people who continue to fuck them though when you get misinformation. You're going to do some bad ideas share. I guess. Oh yeah so. It's a Florence Pews whole crime. Is that her boyfriend Like Liam Neeson fucking follows this girl on the train. He's Kim your bag water or give me that bag and all these fake. Id's fall out. Well going up to. Everyone likes to look at your bags absolutely not but why act and the thing is he used to be a cop. Yeah like and then. He went to this insurance salesman job. I mean I mean he should have known this was dumb move but I guess he wanted to make more money question mark but now I think they say something. Well I guess maybe it is a money thing. 'cause Patrick Wilson's like you gave it all up for the family. Yes so that's why I think it's or maybe the threat of not being murdered. Yeah that's also positive. Probably a little bit of that as someone who grew up wondering if his father was gonna come home from work every night again. Understand that so what I'm trying to get at is like just impersonate a police officer? Dude just say your detective exactly. You've been there before you can have that cadence or whatever because you actually worked that job. Yeah exactly all excuse. Pardon me excuse me would you mind off please? He kills his poor conductor guy into searching random people's bags and he doesn't want to do it but then he does it and everyone's freaking out in Yellen Adam and he's like oh so random security check ma'am also. The doctors can do either copied the doctor Kit. Search your bag. I've never seen that happen. No this woman's there's this other woman who's a nurse and he's a Excuse me Miss There's been a complete search your bag absolutely. Not You fucking Weirdo been deputized. No you have sorry about of a conductor patio inspection like they were rounding up a posse. And I'm part of it of deputize. Now let's say it's at Leonardo di Caprio gave me a bad. Oh this is fucking ridiculous. Though here in this moment when he's trying to wrestle away for Florence Pews bagger looking her bag or whatever she fucking pepper sprays him yes he recovers immediately from being pepper sprayed no way. I'VE BUILT UP AN IMMUNITY. Y- it's happened to me once or thrice every night when I go home pepper spray myself in the face build up a tolerance only way. I could feel anything. And this is when he fucking pulls a see something say something with conductor and he's like I don't know Sam. I'm just saying the posters talented me if I see something say something so Say and something tip from New Yorkers say nothing nothing say nothing and keep fear fuck itself. Just walk away the one time I ever did that. it was New Year's Eve as wanting to time fucking square Two thousand like call two thousand seven. Maybe so not not that far off from nine eleven but certainly share. But let's just pause one second Steve Sake as a native New Yorker especially and a grown adult at this point. In the story you're telling What the hell are you doing in Times Square on New Year's Eve? I was under a stigma train on underground. Oh who was so? You're on the train or you. Were in the stace in the station like transferring trends. Yeah and there's a huge like plaza underground plaza practically to get from one train to another transfer transferring. It's pretty early and then I'd probably five or six o'clock. I'm walking passes long hallway. And there's a bag in the middle of it and I'm like well that's not okay and at the end of the long hallway. Go to to to a cop and I'm a man is willing you know. There's a bag in the middle of the alway. They're young and he looks at me like I'm a McDonald's customer that's at my Burger was too cold is a Gal. Sure Pal Buddy you know what thank you but mind you fucking business. A business okay. Nobody likes to rats or what not just have a good night and happy new year. I'm here to serve you. Definitely Sir thank you You Italian. Yes Sir Not Enough. Get the fuck out. Excuse me officer planes about to hit that tower. You Ain't seen nothing fancy nothing get Outta here. Oh this is around where he gets in a fight with this dude who he thinks is this prim character and he's like printing and the guy goes what did you say they just this huge eight th. There's the payoff is terrible on on the print thing anyway friend is such a dumb thing to say throughout this entire movie it sounds alien like and it just just it. It doesn't roll off the tongue in a cool way felt awkward. It's a theory on that. Because you said alien like and spoiler alert at the end of the movie. The one girl that ends up being prynne. Kinda just like blankly stares and can't communicate so maybe she isn't ailing. Oh that's something. He's an alien in the Cocoon Universe. It's ghost or an alien better movie either way absolutely After this fight it's great because they're like Hey Liam Neeson This is a commuter train. Why are you sweating and bleeding? There's there is so many times when like I mean like I know different cars. You can't hear stuff but like you would like he's throwing this guy around into stuff you know what I mean like. He's yeah it's like they're fighting fighting in between the cars in this movie. People started shooting guns throughout the strain and a car. A car like up. Everyone just sitting there like this is fine. I don't hear a thing. And this is the greatest light. He's like scumbag tried to steal. Meanwhile that wasn't a Wallet Inspector. And he like he fights this guy and then like later he goes to look for this guy and he's dead. He's older he's under the train thing and his phone is ringing. And it's a it's a very formica again. Being like you you cost his death because you you identified the wrong man because he thinks him is a gps on the bag and in the scuffle. Gps on this dudes bags a well. That settles that and then this guy wants up dead and for migrants like well. You did the wrong thing. And I'm like beer for my. This is a bad plan. Clearly the whole thing is you're supposed to blame this year. The view lane anyway but like this is not a great plan. Also you don't need to people you haven't s acid figure at the fuck out. Well you just get the assassin to do all the work as well. That's the thing is he says. There isn't assassin on the train and this is the first he was paid for one kill. There has to be some like she must be contacting. Really Look we. We fucked up the first one. No this is not the right guy. He's got like Ben. He's got a benefit from that. He's got to get like two hundred thousand now and a little bit cool if they saw. If like you knew in the movie who this assassin was early on and then like you're seeing his conversations with her also. Yeah that'd be something I mean. Also the other thing too is like the Guy Kills Jonathan banks like with just. I don't think he falls off the train. I think he was waiting there. Something like does she have an army of other assassins at every and she needs to be of a point. I think this is part of the John. Wicker verse. Yes Scott Got. Oh Fuck well. It could be a thing where she's like you know Liam Neeson. Could you know? Try to get off the train at any moment. Maybe we need to have somebody like on there at the stations to monitor stuff. I mean you're supposed to fifty guys now. This is it expensive operation well absolutely but I mean at the end of the day. Dude spoiler alert. We're trying to cover up for dirty cops when you're trying to cover up for dirty cops. That money is fucking endless. Let's get a little bit to the end here. Not The end end but just like the idea is this is to cover up the murder of a city planner. This yes right. The city planner who had like Info on something something money going missing. It is so insanely vague. Like the end of the movie. There's like some newsreel clips all put together to make no coherent sense but it's like Oh there's collusion and corruption and it's like I guess there was money in local politics was being misappropriated. Yeah so then this COP Spoiler Patrick. Wilson dropped this kid thirty five stories out of a window and they're trying to make it look like a suicide however there is a witness who saw that it was a murder and that is this prynne character. And they're trying veer for micheals people need this assassin to kill prince of that. The only witness to the crime is snuffed out to kill her before she gets to kill the witness before they get too cold spring because at cold spring. And this is one of those things. You can't do in this movie if you're doing the train movie where it's like who's on what train. And what's GonNa Happen and Blah Blah Blah? You cannot just cut to two random. Fbi agents at cold spring being like wait for the witness to get here. You do have to scenes one is that and the other is like. Oh Hey I'm agent Garcia. Let's talk one of these dudes by the way. I JUST WANNA point out I don't I mean I don't think either of these F. B. I. Agents have names in this movie. Sure say it's like FBI one John and it's aged Garcia's room thinking of is the actor. Kingsley Bene- dear. He is the guy who plays Mac on that new high fidelity show on Hulu. Okay fucking solid. Recommend that show. We just started at the other night. Zoe Kravitz is a fucking awesome in it. Solid solid supporting casts total surprise. Big Recommend Just in this time of quarantine we need something to watch you know So yeah that's the whole thing so these two are just like standing there waiting for this train to come in and also the other thing. Is You know when this train is supposed to get in. Just show up around that time or like. Can someone get a fucking cab or a fucking police escort to drive this witness up our look? We want to make sure because the idea at the end of that well listen. It's too hot to be in the city right now. You gotta get Cold Spring. The why don't you get a fuck? Get this agent in a car. Pick her up grand central and let's drive to bring together budget cuts. We can't afford when you get on the train. Just I don't know how print that no one else is pregnant if someone your neighbors. Abc Prim well similarly with The fucking Goldman Sachs Guy. Because I believe the conversation you wind up realizing that he's having is something with his mother and he has some lined with like you got me out here in the middle of nowhere and blabbity Blah and it's like okay rich dude car service man if so pissed off about like slumming it. That's not how you save money you gotTA Use Public Transit. Who Good Point by Chris? That's why he's a rich Man Yeah he's He's a hard worker and he does pull the benefit by his bootstraps. He doesn't eight dollars on coffee. Andrew Asks what I'm doing wrong. Anybody else fuck you millennials. Your car service. Don't use an Uber. Just walk in the streets. And also maybe fantasize about killing a black bad. All Wait Uber. Black isn't what I thought. It wasn't all own request cancel request. Oh Lord Victor Christi Uber Pool At walking outside trump. I'm ready to go swimming in my Uber Pool or no. You're not really freaks me out. Is that Ober? Eats who wants to get eaten by UBER. What a fucking Weirdo. Let me okay. The car each you all great ober exile. Now some fat guy is going to be driving me around. Or maybe just. Maybe it'll be magic. GotTa Real Hog Kobe that Ding Dong. Here's a successful sequence of this movie where he is stuck under the train for a little bit. Sure I was having some fun with this. Why the hell? It was a moment of suspense. It's Kinda crazy too because like he's like okay so this guy's dad he's hiding now. The police are searching the train. Four specifically because he's getting in fights with everyone on that point and then he's like oh no the cops steps on the hidden passageway to under under the train. And it's locked so he has to get out under the under the train. Dave very dangerous. Don't recommend doing yes. No not at all do not try. This train starts moving. And he's like kind of running his feet a little bit and then he falls down and he has to do like all right. I'm going to roll over this giant railroad track while this razor blade is coming towards my face. I Gary I would say. Don't do this general. If you're sixty years old maybe just die of heart attack you have I would be. I'm I'm I'm half that age. I would die instantly going for those metro north trains of a heart attack. This mother fucker not only gets out from the train which she would be smashed in half and we all know not only. Does he do that? He runs at the pace of a fucking train and catches it after. Doing that is a good call. Cars gathered there is not great green screaming here but Dude Liam Neeson keeping pace with this fully moving drain. I don't think in defense of that. He's so he's such a huge guy. Rightfully like seven feet tall. It's like a horse. Took a horse chasing after this. Train rite aid. If he got down on all fours and start reading like that Oh man sent a Centaur. Oh Dude yes yes. It's it's merely ammunition an essential too much like Clinton that Terrible clash of the titans remain. Yeah I thought he did some crazy like crab person that move. Zeus Zeus God or Oh. I'm confusing it with the Scorpion. King starring the Rock Dude Liam Neeson Anamour. We were turning into all sorts of Cheetahs and stuff. Better catch the trade every pretty bad ass dude. Also if this movie it was like a surprise and amorphous movie. Yeah I haven't used this ancient power and far too long. Better turn into a Daego real quick. Now that's a question What was the deal with? Anamour of Steve. Did you have one animal that you could turn into or could you turn the several sadlier asking the wrong guy Guy? I don't know either but I think the covers of those books always showed someone turning into one thing you gotta pick or choose or maybe like borne turned ostrich. I remember maybe Fuckin- Liam Neeson's like the God of Anamour of stories like the one Dam or something. He's like the guy in the cave. Assigning anamour and he can do everything. Well we'll wait. Wait wait but I I remember Ben Stiller turns into a lion swimmer turns into of Madagascar. Chris Oh fuck yeah. That's animated right. Yes yes I thought it was reality. I'm also it's almost as animated as your personality. Chris I would think. Ooh about this train sequence. The on off train thing is because like he's on the phone from Oregon and she's like listen. This is your mess Cleanup Blah. And by the way. You can't leave the train because the this is trying to be like a speed situation where we're like there's really clear rules and it's and it's a god you can't stop the train kind of thing and he was on the phone with you by the way go to call the rules are never that clear and they kind of always change and it doesn't make a ton of sense so it's kind of a waste of time right. Yeah I mean it's just it's to keep this movie in any kind of forward motion. Sure Hi Joanna. Hi Kimberly remember. We met at the meeting. Look I saw your budget and you're spending Two HUNDRED BILLION MOONS. What we instead hire somebody to make it look like she committed suicide like her cousin. No we can't do that. Oh stupid me. Sorry. We'RE NOT GOONEY NARES OVER. So we Killed the head of the five in Brooklyn just an FYI. That costs US two hundred thousand dollars a really good hit for this city planner. We'RE UP TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS. So let's maybe think about this a little bit better just thinking about it. Also Patrick Wilson. I Dunno man. Why don't you? I try bribing this yeah I I mean when this whole thing gets revealed. You're like that's what. This movie was a city planner. Okay do this movie ends with me going. Hey wait second exactly big bad way. He's moving around now he. He loses all of his money when he's getting back in the train like his bag get stuck on something and he pulls it and the bag rips open all of this money goes flying into the air and I was watching intently last night. 'cause he was like he's doing this crazy shit to get on and off the train. What does it give a shit about his messenger bag for and then like and I guess you're supposed to remember the money's in there and then the money flies out and I was laughing all the funniest little button on the whole thing is he? He grabs a single under dollar bill. It's the only thing that's left Which he then goes back into the train and starts like playing poker with these guys. Everybody's moved to the back of the train. That's right knee when he does something where he kills the AC on all the other cars because he's a fucking train genius all come on man. How the fuck do you know how to do that? There have been instances in the summer. Where AC is out and there have been times that. I just stay in a hot car. Because I don't WanNa be around all these fucking people up totally did. I've said many a hot car and my day SMELLY cars though no way. Oh yea was an empty car. And you're like ooh bonus might be a hot car. Might be a smelly car ready empty car on the subway. Definitely thinking about smells metro north. Though you know it's harder to S- Nikon not as many homeless people. The bathrooms all some of those bathrooms that has never cleaning the shit and Piss just and then like people leave the door open to those little bathrooms and it's just like a whole. The whole car is gone. Nine percent of our listenership really enjoys these really deep cut metro north queries. I WANNA KEEP. That goes by all means the tables in the car. I don't know that's that's not a thing right. No not a thing. There are old timers that do ride the cars that ride the train. Still that will regale you of a time when there was a bar car in the metro north trains. But no longer and I've never seen a table like no other than that the color of the seats and stuff pretty realistic. It's actually right. Yeah the Amtrak Amtrak still have that The the bar cars and they'll have a little tables Amtrak's have dining cars. That's what it is for is a dining car absolutely cabinet. I wanted to ask you specifically though because you are on in local parlance here the new haven line which is the commuter line that goes from Connecticut into the city and at last I checked which now we're talking like the early odds when we were in college but those trains with the last bastion of the bar cars. I mean when I'm getting on the train I'm sitting down and putting on headphones and trying to forget that everybody else's dare not want to be asked. Is that the only way you could shoot? But I do remember that those old timey new haven line cars because eventually the new haven line comes in to New York and make some stops in Westchester so like we would sometimes get on there or Chester and Ri- and Yeah and so when we were a purchase you would get on the train around there and I always remember. There were bars there But I guess I guess. Progress has eliminated those also. I think people got too drunk so I think it kind of which is hilarious though dude because also something they have in this movie. That's inaccurate. Is this train is going to Yankee Stadium on a Game Day? And there's very few drunken assholes around which come on there are some people in the Yankees stuff but but my the line that does go to colts. Being does stop at Yankee Stadium when there is a game and the white annoying. And you're right. It doesn't a capsule at the exact feeling of how to do his stadium while you're trying to get the fuck home. Well you can't really express. The smell of piss is a lot of his smell. My new movie the commuter it's coming out and smell-a-vision Four D. ax. I'll just pitch on your number movie theater. You know that light mist coming out to your seat it's Pysche tinkle vision exactly being on the MTA. Yeah Oh wait Oh. The movie stopped for twenty minutes for no reason the being the MTA it's like being on the MTA. Now in the movie shown people talking and laughing way too loudly cabin. People are losing their lives in this movie. It's a serious stop ye laughing at. He's playing poker with Tony and this other guy who he thinks is as big suspect. It's just like huge bucket hulk Russian guy or even know what the the was he. I don't know if we have a radar on the ethnicity however he looks like it's from Street fighter. Leeson's like looking guy. Tattoos must be a villain us well that that also is what led him to kill a fucking FBI agent not too far lelong ago. Yeah absolutely do this. Character does not learn from his mistakes and he's also what are you doing? Hey we're just playing poker. Here's out broadly hundred dollar bill. That's have if you're commuting and doing like some like innocent gambling and some guy comes in with a bloody to bill and says this is all I have left to my. Hey don't maybe don't let him by in. Don't worry it's not my blood it's FBI blood. Jesus were you just a dirt bike race. What's going on here? No one questions. How fucking filthy isn't just? Don't get it and I saw like ten minutes ago perfectly clean and he's harassing everyone. The train at it'd be like Yo Mike Honestly. Thanks but no thanks. We're Kinda done for the day. Ambien train buds. Well maybe everyone sees him filthy and dirty and stinking and bloody. Oh use the bathroom. Happy come out and one of those Gotcha. Oh crap I was. I was pretty okay. I thought I had good footing in the bathroom. And then the train took a quick look at me. Now been there so tank. Look at me now covered in Shit and fish so he basically lays out his entire plan loudly to these guys so the whole car can hear it and he's like you know step one. I'd kill the ACC. Everybody has to go into one car. I would then figure out who has to get off at cold spring and Bobby blabbity Blah and then like this dude with a guitar just gets up and leaves. And he's like well. There's the next person I have to go follow and merged at this point to like they take as he's talking about it. They're trying to keep the suspense. And even though the suspense this movie is gone. And they show. There's like I don't know like twelve people left on the train but once we get to the hostage situation coming up. There's like seventy Oliver. Yeah but there is a magic number of extras in his movie. They appear out of thin fucking air and it's a real continuity problem is he goes into the next car with this guy with the guitar. What's on your Qatar case? It's a guitar music. Are you sure did show your show to the devil this train? Don't stop at the crossroads friend. And so like they kind of. Get into it and yeah. Eventually they'd turns out. This dude is indeed the assassin And they start fighting. Let me tell you something points for this movie. Liam Neeson hits this dude with his own guitar and at the first sign of guitar making contact with this dudes noodle there is definitely an amplified guitar. Sound like a borough along. I wish I wish you Cobb on time for a sticky leakey's Solo. Here I go. Wow all sham. You're here how you it's every great. Some shitty little white kid crawls through the window and this is when this guy. This assassin is fucking firing wildly at everyone. Else is just reading fucking. I don't even know what Redo words with friends. Jody cold the next garlic. Nice try. Yeah you have to tell me. There's like a dimensional vortex between these train cars for no one even fucking notice this not even the fucking conductors. It's fucking crazy at because. Yeah he's like shooting out windows at this point and then he eventually throws this man out of the train window. This guy ticket ticket it could use some one liners. This movie kind of takes itself too seriously. I agree we'll also takes takes forty minutes for Liam Neeson throw a punch and a movie. No thanks movie absolutely not. And here's how you sort of Wet The appetite for that Steve. There is some sort of an N. It could be quick. I will say this is under two hours you can be a real quick prologue where it's Liam Neeson. He's on the beat with Patrick Wilson. And then like something something he's injured and has to retire but like you know like a little bit and he's that way you have some you know wouldn't it be better to see him reading books with his son. Is that better as an so relatable? Don't you do that like he's like chasing down some dude that like robbed abode data? You know they have a little bit of a fight. I would love it if it was just like. He stubbed his toe cut. He's insurance agent after a tire. Mar Murph. It's it's over for me bad. Leave these saying Murph throughout this movie e realistic with his whole disk disbandment from the NYPD. Retirement where we're just be like. I shot a kid yet. He hides some sort of ray on. Oh No actually it's Oh it's the NYPD. I gotTA raise arm the Commissioner told me to keep doing but when he's fighting before he fights this assassin the assassin who is you gotta tell me who the person is to kill Blah Blah Blah Blah. And we're still doing this. And also what an appropriate metaphor what a way to run a railroad. You've got one guy with the gun that has to ask the other guy who to kill the come on and clearly doesn't want to do it like I always love these movies whereas you know who's the best person to do a murder is someone who absolutely doesn't WanNa do it. Well yeah and that's just like it's the same this assassin. It's the same thing with Patrick Wilson at the end of the movie where they're both characters that are like listen man. This is far beyond you. Herreid the people that are running the scab you know to you. They're making me do kind of a thing and this is SAS installing. That and I'm like no. It's actually it is pointless. You're right like Patrick Wilson chasing this girl and give this girl agency in some manner do and now. She's looking over her shoulder trying not to be murdered and make it that. We don't need all these characters hacked. Xactly Hi Joanna Kim again. Yeah you remember. Did you send five assassins to take his family to assassin job? Could you fuck and tell me what you're doing here? Listen join a we're going to meet the receives when you're back in on Monday. This was just really blown out of proportion here the end. They don't even fuck in accomplish that mission the FBI apparently gets there before an arrest. Three men outside his house. So it's just like these. These goons are being so misappropriated. And they're going to. They're just fucking bad at the job. Yeah you know last year when you asked for two hundred goons under your supervision greg and I really were. We fought about it but we gave it to you but now I think it would have to bring Greg in for another meeting. We're going to have a bad day. Don't Joanna did you say he would cover his travel to that. You're paying for his gas money. Now that's happened. Yeah welcome to a discount go home. We sometimes get the job done but to be completely honest with Jews. Sometimes we will grossly fuck it up. Yep we're based in got the city okay all day off. Garish. Names like you would imagine. This is no Blida Reiter. A tough a tough. A Nike Co blue. Raiders are extra expensive. I think but this shows you these fucking goons man like the Mafia. They know what they're doing it on this has been a pro mafia show since inception and it's like why stay out of the crime racket amateurs. Exac exactly you know who's fucking finding this girl and murdering her immediately the mafia their greatest killing witnesses. It's never like Oh. Should we gotta find that witness? Let's all get fucking Irish fucking cop on a tray that doesn't WANNA kill. It didn't do it like no actually. It's fucking veto. That killed four people as good at it yeah. The Mafia has never sat down to have a planning meeting in where they're like all right. Johnny finally we're going to let you execute your elaborate plan to kill this witness. I guess they're trying to north by northwest type of thing sherm moving. Look look I can get. You were ten snipers for like five hundred dollars. But they can't aim. Never reveal whom Joanna is working for or is and that sort of thing you need is she like all you need to do is be like she works for the governor. Something that is the thing right there. Do the governor like the next highest up some sort of statewide scandal or even yet. If that's the case or something you know just drugs vague drug altaic but Sydney Planner. My Eyes glazing. You have to make it something you just have to. This is a baseline city planner. Anyway ended the movie by. There's there's a surprising number and maybe Eric again you you in Chris take the metro north far more than I do. Air Under has as well. I've taken my fair share. Ever seen quite as many train axes in these absolute total of zero train. Axes back cool. That's part of this as well. I better use this trade act. I guess it's supposed to be in like a fire. Emergency can't or something like what break glass in case of assassin a hatchet. It's not even a fucking. Yeah so he finally fucking figures out. That plan is the teenage girl. Who's had her ear buds in this whole movie? Lucky her like it's now he's basically been like okay like I know who you are. I'M NOT GONNA kill you. We have to figure out. What's going on and Vera? For Mega calls back. And she's like hey man Everyone's GonNa die Just FYI everybody's GonNa die and Salim. Niessen in this last act of heroism is like well if we never get too cold spring then we don't have to worry about this and he makes this fucking conductor. This dude has been on the job for thirty two years. Sam pull this emergency brake but oh the emergency brake is rigged to the front of the train and it blows out the like engineers area and do this old guy who we see here and there throughout the movie cooked up like a crispy critter kinda looks delicious. He does He. Looks like some fucking Chinese barbecue. This guy I mean like if no one the trains going to derail any way you always wanted to know what human flesh tastes. And it's all you know what this train may derail better resort to. Cannibalism why I sounds like I'm not gonNA eat dinner for a long time. Hey millennial you wanNA split this guy. Who's this fucking? Mta worker with. I know he's not spread across avocado toes. Or whatever thirty dollars to eat this guy. I got the deal. Best meet is in the ass just watched look eaten ass millennials. I thought you liked each class. Well here I am a boomer eaten ask show Charlotte's Abba jump on going to hold out. You mean you mean you say eat NAS is tugging the asshole. No no no no no no I put it on a plate. The eat like a fucking loaf of bread. There's acid show good. It's as good as those horse. Carriages in central. Oh Man I forgot. That's another dumb opinion of his. He's very adamant that he wants horses. Running around Manhattan. Which makes it enough. We might be back to it. That's true waiting for the wolves to come out of the park. Christopher be splitting a fucking carriage down to your place we have to get. Cape's then you'd ever GonNa be just ride down the road fucking Oswald Kabul pots parrot. Oh whatever man so he you know the the explosion happens or whatever and they're trying to separate you know the engine car from the rest of the cars so everybody can be safe in. This thing can just crash and like he needs more help. So the Sam the conductors back on the job and this guy right here oh man. He's got this libraries like he's like I've always said it would either be the people or the trains that get me. I always knew it would be the train and I'm like so sir in your storied career as a conductor of for this railroad. You always knew the train would be the cost of your data like again. We we we. We we poked fun at the police. But like you know those those guys really walk in like hey this might be the last day I sign up for this job you know. And that's a real fear and similarly with the with firemen. That's into brave thing to do when you're a train conductor. You shouldn't be. You should be suiting up. The League like my last day on Earth every day. Well you don't understand you see this This train was briefly. Part of the UBER EATS program. I was expecting one day to be eaten and consumed by this train. Uh for sustenance so eats that's why they added so many fucking local stops that make no sense absolutely so yeah there's a massive derailment like they they get everything gotTa unhooked. This conductor is killed because the engine part of the train like flips over. This guy just goes sky high. I WANNA see him. Niessen GETS BACK to safety. Somehow I WANNA see him. Bite it a little harder. It's a quick cut away and I'm like I kinda WanNa see something go through his brain. Yeah absolutely there's dislocate the train cars. And then there's an just a random chain that flies out and connects them again so they have to disconnect that and then that goes flying up and Liam these goes flying forward and makes it into the rest of the he's invincible. In this move there is some bad fucking like Liam Neeson's cartoon makes it back to the train the CGI's but he starts chewing on a carrot. And I mean like guess what everybody's dead not just Liam Neeson's but you see this from like a a bird's eye view in holy Shit. Everyone is dead. Kinda like tables and Shit like non asa on their dead. You're seeing a train car. This is a huge missed opportunity. We're talking about how this movie has some previous missed opportunities for some levity. There's even some flat out comedy right. Here's where you need it. Because there's a shot of a road with the railroad crossing and the things are down people. Don't drive through and whatever and then. The train comes through sideways cause of the derailment. You need a gag. Words like an old couple in a car and they're waiting at the train crossing. And it's like Oh Harold. These trains always take forever to pass by broken. Train passes the wrong way you know. And then they're like MAG goodness knows who would have some levity. We can't have that you want the ghostbusters couple. We'll take the next one absolutely. There's a bad in his apartment. That Kinda Shit. You need those kinds of thing. Meal like there was a joke. Like that. And unstoppable that right. I've never see the shore. I don't think it stop and honey. Yes it is Eric Good. There are people that swear by that being a great movie. What say you Chris Cabinet? It's what it's fine. It's trash trash bag. Dude Oud trash bag. I probably should all these directors works of because it's the same director right non stop now. That's Tony Scott isn't it on? Data unstoppable mixed up. Yeah Oh yeah I'm talking about unsolvable the Chris Pine Denzel Movie. I believe Chris Nonstop is the Liam Neeson airplane. Yes which is. Essentially unstoppable as the other train movie which I remember I saw and I was like this is not for me but then people are now raving about it. So I don't know maybe I should go back in any event so there. Yeah the movie four because this is like yes. The train stops and everyone's like stopped and like all of a sudden all this nypd of why? I am beacon. That's how that works. Sam kneels got them surrounded. And it's a hostage situation and also Pat Kiernan becomes really important at the end of this movie. Pat Kiernan local New York one news broadcaster part of the MC you officially. He's just like well. It seems like there's Oh Hey there. It's a Canadian accent. But like it's Oh there's the train derailed and there seems to be a hostage situation now like. How do you get any of this information? Do not only that he fucking straight up is like an it would appear as if there's an ex nypd officer who's taken hostages and. I'm like really dude. Where's the information being relaid year? All right and now let's to what is in the paper. How garb is eight LASAGNA? We now cut to Roger Clark Petty Gitten. Yeah just no one for the Roger. Clark jokes all right. No sorry what's that he's like he's kind of a living is a really nice guy but he seems like a living joke on the. Newark one offices because he always does. He kind of looks like what's that character actor Salt Ruben a little bit. Is that right and he gets like silly anytime. There's a silly story a New York one. It's it's Roger Clark just an FYI. Oh I don't remember that guy. The funny thing is now my cable provider does not give me New York one really. I just got it up here. Which is crazy. I'm white man. I hope someday files gives it to me so I can have that sweet sweet New York ones zen monotone news delivery bag. Hi Joann Have you turned on the television? I would like you to turn on and remember we could have hired one mother fucking assassin and this would have been all over but now we've got a PR disaster this size of Fuck in World War. Two on our hands. That's fantastic but no Joanne refuses famously. To work with towel now everyone knows we got bad. Goons try that. You don't want to try. That said they have bad goons. The goods are great. I tried to goods that great. It's because they don't slice the garlic thin and it's this thing where Liam Neeson's knows the score meetings are all right. There's gotta be snipers. Let's put newspaper on the windows. Okay Okay Yeah. And they're still twenty minutes left this movie and it feels like forty five to this movie goes on for fucking ever and by they go ahead they put up these newspapers and then the NYPD which obviously by the here but they take out of their sniper takes out the super scope. Like we're in. We're in the fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger movie a racer and we see like everyone. Talented with this x Ray. Shit Yadana what's going with that and everyone's got this yellow thing this yellow or And then Patrick Wilson like I'll go in I know the guy and he's wearing like a body cam of some kind or a look a little tag so he's blue so the guy knows who's who it's like. What the fuck technology is this. Yeah I have no clue desert Israel or not. I'm leaning towards move magic here The Girls Sofia's her name this Prynne because she's reading the scarlet letter Hester Prynne. Wow does everybody get it even Liam Neeson is just like okay. But even scarlet letter doesn't really apply to what is even happening in the does and it's just like the name. Yeah I guess they were like by the way before you get on the train. We need to know what book you're going to be reading Because that will be your codename going forward. Isha scarlet letter. I remember that. It's a lovely romantic comedy book Between two people and he writes him letters on red paper. It's it's ready for my son's class. Yeah exactly this whole fucking movies like shadow to basic lit eighth grade mandatory. Bi Ch- we'll even what's his face Mike the Cleaners Guts Online kazaa leave Neeson's reading weathering heights at one point and He's like Charlotte Bronte or whatever and he goes Amalie it's right there the of the L. Let me tell you how books work right so in the front cover and ordinarily if you WanNa know who wrote the book you'll look right. There in the information will be pretty prominently display to be honest with you. Mike only know that because my favorite Girl was reading it so Patrick I'm going to get in there. I'M GONNA solve this case and look right and you know he's crooked immediately and he gets John He walks he walks onto the train. And he's like. Hey My hey. Mike we're in a real fix your buddy. How ARE WE GONNA get out of this? When I'm like just reveal yourself to make crooked that double exactly you know how you know. He's crooked Steve because he is appearing again in the film. Now I'm remembering actually when I saw this What I what? I saw that the theaters. We had a few drinks to start sure and I was very very clearly. Remember like really having to Piss at this point and I'm like shut the Fuck Up Patrick. Wilson. I'VE GOTTA GO. Take a leak. That'd be good for your stand up album name. Patrick Wilson I gotta go also. It's weird because here is Sam. Neill this NYPD captain. They say that he's in-command in this situation. Which yes he's out of his jurisdiction but also not for nothing the fucking FBI is on hand that's the FBI is all over this thing. Yeah they're they're subservient to the NYPD. Where's the state police in all of this? Oh state you see the state police for two seconds in the scene where he is there in Tarrytown and he's hiding under the train yes and I believe they're wearing the wrong color uniform. No I I think they're correct. It's the gray with the purple at look. I thought it was green today. Maybe maybe I was greening out. Ooh that could be but yes we get the whole scoop and you know. Murph is on the scene and he's trying to do the whole like well. You know we gotta get some passengers off here. He had asked him previously. This is where I was like. What the fuck did he say because he goes or how many people patrick wasn't says how many people are on the train. Leeson's like I like fifteen or twenty and I was like well that can't be true. I think there's like five and then all of a sudden you see all of these extras just booking off this train. That was like where do these people come from? The twenty other people leave and they're still like the eight to ten people we've been following and I'm like what the fuck happened. And Patrick Wilson does this thing where he fucks up because look when Prynne reveals herself. She tells the story about how this guy said something. There are no noble people and data and then Patrick Wilson said. Well you know Mike. There are no noble people Blah Blah Blah. And right yeah And so it's like he's crooked and then he's like all right so which one is Prynne. This girl stands up and is like Oh you know I'm praying it's me Blah Blah Blah. And then all of a sudden in a sickening turn in this. They have a fucking. I am Spartacus. Moment started up by that fuck in the big tattooed guy that he's playing poker. We know arc. You know I am print and then Florence. I'm printing can I be in a better movie now doing very very soon? Sure sure you can absolutely Florence. You could be in two of them. You can also do that. Wrestling Moves Yes so they have their spartacus moment. And then like leaving using gets in a fight with Patrick Wilson and Patrick Wilson out of nowhere. This masterful knifes men. Yeah and he's giving them all these a quick stabs like a Ninja and everyone's getting involved in the fight. Now like Tony gets involved there is. It's the worst part of the. I am spartacus moment. After saying where I was I am printing I am printed. Everyone gets up and does it all the main characters except for the wacky other conductor. Who's like well? I'm definitely not print. Let me let me know that. Fucking Jake Lee. Remember a huge laugh in the in the theater the time with the Lulu real mild applause broke out. God Damn it and you guys saw this in New York yes so it's like I guess these people just never never ridden the metro north or anything. Why some people in this town that never leave the five boroughs the same people that laughed at that of the same people that literally always because this joke always kills for some reason that eminem commercial. That's in front of every movie ever with like this. Is Your mission. No this is an odd. Elope people lose it at that line. I've never noticed that really people appreciate that eminem humor. Yes they do and also my wife is now in the in the audience. And I've stolen that joke from urged mad at me. Oh Jen gets full credit for that joke. Isn't it at long last? Leave say like the fucking Carlos Mencia of podcasts. That everyone knows outed everyone knows. People love eminem comedy. They love Emmett him base. I have seen the green one. Oh dude she's so sexy. It's unbelievable I can't I can't whenever that comes on. Tv I gotTA throw a brick through it. Have you ever tried the green? Eminem TAB on porn hub Azziz. It's as a bunch of fucking losers fucking bags of candy. While Chan Tab is open on the computer. I said wild. Yeah you want. You want to spend a few months in containment. Check out the Green EMINEM TAB on. We'll say yes so whatever he Patrick was again this fight at it turns out whoops Liam Neeson ripped the little blue thing off of him and all of these snipers murder. Patrick Wilson it's kind of funny and then like everyone from the FBI just knows immediately Liam Neeson was good the whole time. And they're like. Don't worry buddy. We're not even going to bring you in for questioning. It's totally cool do. They're not bringing anybody in for questioning because there's an FBI agent who's asking this girl print like right there about all the shit and I'm like get this woman to say at log last. I you save the money on gas. Could you now get into the same house? Fucking detective Garcia. Whatever he's doing this interrogation in the middle of a flaming train yard. But I do think that Leeson. We'll get the Ethel Rosenberg treatment for this. This is just too much and the destruction of property it all sure property. It's real easy. Fbi agent. And Mike I. I swear I'm good. He's again I know it's you and Patrick. Wilson Patrick. Wilson is clearly fucking Evil Wilson from these. The bad guy There's there is a kind of funny like around the Horn with like sort of the more famous of the train Crowd here including like yeah the aforementioned like wacky train conductor is hitting on the nurse and Liam Neeson's like ha young love dude one of the funniest shots every he turns his head. He looks at. They cut the floors pugh. Dumping all of this fake. Id's dumpster. Leo Decent. Just changing lives left and right. He hit proud to in that moment. He's just yup towards Kasese like he when he has an encounter with her about it. She's like they're not mine. My boyfriend made me carry this Bhagwat. Vlade he's like well he's not much of a by friend if he's making your do schemes like this now is he. He sees her dumping out all the ideas. I S now. Two hundred children have to find another way to drink liquor illegal all right. I want to transport these two hundred fake. Id's costs a lot of money to make him pretty legal. Doing WanNa spend the sixty bucks on the FUCKING UBER. Up to cold spring now. I think what I'd like to do is put her on a fucking train where she has to go through three fucking checkpoints seriously and also. I don't know what this like. Mail order fake. Id's sheet is back in the day. Man I just went to a fucking head shop down and macdougal Street and some dude took me behind the curtain and took my photograph and that was the end of it was when I was the only one with a fake. Id Nude photograph. No I mean maybe it was just my face. They had a nude idea. That's it I had a brother. My brother was a couple years older than me. So just would use old ones. That would work like seventeen percent of the dime stopped working out So they're really shorter. All right. Your height is on this issue. That's that's a problem says here you were born in. Nineteen fifty two. I was wearing stilts when I got my. Id taken yeah. That's garbage exchange. Like so his his wife and son show up and they're kind of like taking him home and Sam Neil's like standing there and he's like Oh just give me a second honey and they kind of talk and it's just like you know we miss guys like you and the department guys that do it right. I'm like all right. So you're missing not crooked cops. That's what you're saying. I mean you've seen the news right I'd be. We are just like a fucking nest of vipers. Oh Man we do. We do get a fucking great Pat Kiernan with a potential sequel setup. Because there's like this news montage again of like all this like Television News Years Audio. And it's here in and being like also. Police are trying to figure out the whereabouts of this possible. Joanna while we ask does she even exist. And you're like man nobody cares and then there's speaking of nobody cares is a Stinger seen. Oh yeah and epilogue the button. Yeah it's it's an epilogue it's Li it's Liam Neeson another train In Chicago and he comes up to Veneta JOANNA WHO's reading the Count of Monte Cristo is I liked that book go dead. Ding. And it's like Oh man shut up everybody good ending. Better Sandwich. And he's like well. Let me tell you something do you want? What would you do in this situation? What you're about to get arrested. And he shows his New York City Police Department badge which has no jurisdiction in Chicago. Who are you fucking Axel? Foley not is happening like it's one thing if you wanted to make him like oh he's now part of the FBI like make him have more of a connection with aging Garcia or some. Yeah exactly or maybe. She's on the subway. You know what I mean like the regular regular subway. Jags excellent. Why did YOU HAVE TO BE CHICAGO? Greg it's Kim you're sending Joanna to Chicago Office. I'm not dealing with this again okay. I'm sorry I th I think part of it is like to scare the audience. Oh my God. I'm a commuter but thank God I'm not a New York. Elite happen in shark or another city. Yeah I guess so. It's just it's so dumb that he's just part of the NYPD. Like I don't know I'm just like that doesn't really solve his money woes. Either why I know. Well that should have been a thing. That's the that's the thing is like Sam Neill. You should have seen Sam. Neill offer him the job right there. Yeah yes 'cause then it's like all right you're at least employed the money stuff you know you'll be able to put your kid through college and whatever maybe him and Sam. Neill are on a different take. You know yes. They're like maybe with the Mafia against these new upstarts and that way he could pay his two mortgages. Go there double secret. Corrupt lied about being a double with anybody. Recommend this movie. No I remember seeing it the first time and kind of enjoying it for silly romp and again I was pretty lit up having to see it again knowing where it was going in the silly beats i. It's a no for me. Maybe it's worth it the first time around. But it's I can't I can't distance myself from this last watch which felt like a slog. It's a no for me. I mean it's okay to like a movie. I know people do enjoy this movie and I feel like it's tired after seeing Liam Neeson play this basically same movie like fifteen times. There's better versions of this movie with him in it right that I can't recommend this and also I know and by the way yes we nitpicked about New York geography. And but it's I know this probably pissed some people off but it's so easy to get it right why why do it wrong? Why do it wrong white alienate the people who live in the areas where this takes place the place where there's over eight million people? I mean not for nothing. You have the Internet now. You can check this stuff you can. Have someone do research when you're writing the screenplay you know Chris Gavin. Ics FOR ME. Actually I think this is pretty entertainment born. Yes that's me I'm a contrarian. Oh why do you love it? I think it's I think it's well directed trash. I think that I think it works up until about when the assassin fight happens It's it's engaging I actually didn't like it the first time I saw and liked it better this time and with the accuracy of the things. I don't give a fuck like I. I honestly like the fucking subway flies. Great if I don't future I actually. I liked it better on re watch as well but I'm not definitely not singing. Its praises I would say. I mean Steve. I think I was in your boat the first time we saw it. Which was the booze cruise that we are on? That was the boat that we were And yet share like liquor helps with these kind of movies. I'd say it's kind of like a soft recommend think this is a kind of a hangover movie. Abbas especially because it has pretty much the singular location that you're kind of like dozing in and out and you can up and be like well. I guess he's still on the train. Or whatever and like and I actually I think I also kind of agree with Chris a little bit in that it is kind of a decent enough mystery trying to figure out what's going on here because she's on the phone it also has a little bit of that like die hard with a vengeance or like phone booth kind of you know the terrorist is on the phone kind of thing which keeps me engaged even though like. I'd rather see Vero Farm Megan doing more than just you know ninety nine percent voice performance. Yeah but you know. I will say if you're looking for like a better movie and Mr Colette. Sarah's filmography I do think orphan is a better movie I think has of waxes a better movie but also as far as the LIAM NIECE IN CA- labs. I remember kind of having fun with run all night which they did three years prior to that has like the best cast. I think of all of them in that one Ed Harris. Oh yes only one. I haven't seen that one you got. Yeah it's common. You got yourself some. Oh Yeah Bruce McGill. 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News AF | Krull is News AF  July 7, 2020

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News AF | Krull is News AF July 7, 2020

"Hair ready a what's going on. I rob sister. You know back again to talk with you about the week's most interesting movie of July Twenty Twenty here on news a on crystal. It's about makes to death saying yes. That's right welcome back to this news AF special here today where we are going to be talking about the favorite film of all time of one of the members of our panel. I would say probably three now all three of us now here a man who could probably throw a five sided glazed with no problem. Tyson apostles is now were you. I'm awesome dude and is before we really get into it. Here is glaze. A real word eve. Is that a real word or is that just a made up word for the film? Leith glazed supposedly Shakespeare main a bunch of words for the English language and now it seems like cruel has to that writer of crawl has also made up much words. I mean it sounds fitting. It's just like I don't know if that was a word before. That was something they come up with. Someone said Blade drunk heard glade. He's perfect that is a G. L. A. I. V. is the macguffin of the film crawl. Which is a favorite of Danny Bryson who Is the person who brings us all together here today for this epic? Retelling of crawl fireside chat. A fireside chat was a movie of My Youth. My brother put it this way. He said that growing up we only had five or six videocassettes that we could watch in one of those crawl and so it got used and watched constantly. And I gotta say when I re-watch Kroll a couple of days ago it was it's held up. Got Even better with eight really. Has That's what we're here to talk about today? And now if you haven't seen crawl don't worry it's not easy to find. It is on Amazon prime but at the pay to ninety nine to watch it in standard. Def I'm wondering if I should have held out and gone. For the three ninety nine. Hd Rental I bought it in hd for like twelve nine. Wow I regret that because I don't spread myself watching it again. But maybe if Danny ever visits we can sit down and have a crop. Watch party also rob me. A new had never heard that I heard of it. Never sent Danny. Yeah Yeah and I think I know why it's because Danny has older brothers. Yes I don't have. I have an older sister so yeah so like I learned of like the. I can't even remember the band named the something sisters sisters. Not The pointer sisters a crocodile. Something or other not the crocodile sisters. They saying they were like ninety. S for sure and so I heard like all of these like nineties girl groups and that was like what my sibling did for me. And so danny like all of this dough like good friends with Taj for all these years. Yes so for me. It was funny because when I bought the video or sorry rented it. I looked at the customers who watch this also watch and what I saw in. The suggestions are all the videos of my youth. So Flash Gordon S Willow never ending story Conan the destroyer. I wasn't allowed to watch but I did. See Pretty Awesome. Yeah and it just goes on and on all these videos that I watch when I was a kid and they all fit in the cruel families Flash Gordon. I feel like I knew better than this. Got My dad watched Flash Gordon. I remember that movie being on when I was a kid but crawl was never on in my house and was today. I have to say Danny a my kids were very into it. My kids were very much that the formula held because both of my son's Dad. What is this what's happened? It really appealed how this I should show it to Bergen. Then no I felt like I. I'm glad my kids in watch it. There are one or two scenes where I thought. How did I handle this as questions? Like Mike what what part so one part that when it started to happen. I'm like Oh my gosh. I remember this when the blind old man who's guiding them to the Emerald Castles so then they can find out where the black fortress is going to be the following day. The old man sitting there. He needs to be guided. He's he's blind and everybody's off fighting and from behind him comes. An identical blind man looks just like him and he walked creeps up to the actual blind wizard and he puts his hands around his neck and his fingernails start grow and they don't even know who's making what noise like. I can't tell the one guy is having like this orgasmic experience. He kills the original blind wizard but they're both like it was just that I remembered that part. That was seared into my mind and when that happened. I was transported back to Nineteen eighty-three kid the day. Before you found that playboy porn stash at our brand new house. Forget the images. I saw playboy when you were five years old. Eight seven or eight later later on and then what was the other moment? Besides that one there were actually a couple of moments. A cyclops. Yeah I'd completely forgotten about the cyclops and when he chucks his Trident across you. Save you know the the Earl or whatever his name is the the guy the clown s earn. Yeah that That part I'm like oh I remember seeing that cyclops going. Whoa dude and same same reaction. This time. There were a bunch of parts that when they got caught in the quicksand. Yeah that also stuck with me because I remember looking at the material of the quicksand getting on their faces and what is that? What is that made out of? It turns out that at some kind of Cork that they use. I was reading about and Cork Sand or broken court. I don't know what it is dude. Quicksand was one of the most horrific tariff. Yes scary things as a child of our day where it was just like every cartoon everything anybody imperil. They came into fucking quicksand. Dude yeah there was. You were like how how can meet in your mind going to bed in your in. Spread it all out yeah. It's John Mullany. Talks John Mullany. Does this bid on it. It's it's so true like quicksand was definitely the top five things. You were worried about exchange okay. So last week we talked about how the Qube the geniuses over a he have remade the princess bride and even my son dominance. I is this movie like the Princess Bride. It's kind of is so what I was thinking. Today is as as we have seen crawl especially Danny has lived crawl all of these years. Many of our listeners are not familiar with it that basically we could tell the story of crawl so that people are able to experience the magic of crawl by this podcast and we can all take. We'll tell the chronological story of crawl. Here in this podcast. Does that sound good? It sounds like something something. It is something for sure and Yeah I definitely have a few moments picked out of the film and one of my all time favorite moments. But we'll let Dan get into it right. Yeah and we'll let our listeners if they have questions or comments along the way of that. Hey we I don't understand. Wait what's happening. Then we can fill a fill in the blanks a little bit more so that people can all hear the legend of crawl. Okay we ready okay. Ready all right transport yourself if you can to another time and place a planet way over the past. That's one of those movies where it's like medieval but in space with magic but with futuristic shit as well and it's like you don't know like when. I first started I was like. Oh what is this going to be as it's going to be in the future? Is it going to be just like a different time? Is going to be like a different? Yeah and they just kind of everything against the wall to see what would stick is all all. This stuff is pretty popular right now. Let's just throw it all out there. See what see what we can. The battles are like swords but then guys come in with guns and lasers and you're just like why are you using the swords when everybody has a laser gun to you know get out of there and and so? I was honestly right as we started. I was like okay. They did they did use all of it. It's futuristic but it's also medieval takes planet Kroll by the way gay role is the name of the planet and the planet is being invaded by the beast and his army of slayers. Which the cost you about the slayers Ms Pretty Dope say that I always liked the look of the slayers and they're better than stormtrooper for sure for sure they look fancy everyone actually has really nice body contouring armor it really makes. Everyone looks super slayers seem to move very slow though is in there. Like squeezy type. The beast has an endless supply of slayers would be my guess and so for him. The numbers don't matter he doesn't care how many die he just relentless? That's that's the whole idea. If you notice that you can kill a lot of slayers but they just keep coming and you can't stop the wave of slayers like storm troopers. Yeah I would say. They're a little bit more methodical. They're like a mix between a stormtrooper and a Terminator They. Just keep going and lives. Don't matter to the beast. Yeah obviously yes. Yeah case throws a band this laters do have most of the laser guns. Yes Yeah K now. Laser guns is a bit of a stretch because what they have is a weapon that can shoot one laser and then they have to turn it around after shooting the laser and now use it as a sword so each slayer can deploy one laser. Shot was then describe in the movie or You just noticed that I noticed that that is really stupid technology. It's sort of like an old style like Musket. Do they need to like low. You kind of what I thought jars. It's like charger. Yeah IN ANCIENT WARFARE. You discharge your airborne weapons and then you know polite your swords and you check your spear that's what it's like you would throw your spear and then you take out your sword and chart. Okay cool all right now. There is a prophecy and much star. Wars opens up with the wise old man describing a prophecy where people are going to get married and they're going to have a baby and that baby is going to rule the galaxy but you don't think that they copied star wars at all anywhere. No no but they're definitely riding the star wars wave on this one. Now the problem I see every step of this film's Development. There was some guy in some in just trying to sell to executives. This is GonNa be the next Star Wars. Oh yeah totally sequels. An action figures. This is going to be it. We're GONNA be rich. Oh totally the actors. Did it for free. But they got merchandising percentages and there was a to see though that one day. Why young upstart actor from this film would eventually be in Star Wars? Oh yeah that's true K. Going Danny all right so I don't know what it is with directors but the movie basically opens with about fifteen minutes of riding through the Italian countryside. Lord of the rings suffered from the same kind of editing Indulging but this editing. This was back at a time where you could do that. And that was the style of film is there was a lot of moments in this movie where it was just like like when they ride the horse all the way across the entire planet overnight and they're like laser horses. Those that's true. You want the fire. Horses move across the planet for like thirty five minutes so combined part. Yeah let's talk about the opening hor scenes and what we're seeing is The trying to get. Yeah a prints marry a princess. So they're trying to get prince cal win to princess. Lysa and the princess and prince are all in on this marriage parenting not because they're two warring state s also Princess Lissa Princess Lists. Yeah exactly I actually thought the Prince's father the king had a great line where he said warriors don't make great husbands And that'll come up later. He believes anybody wrong. Yeah exactly that's foreshadowing. Exactly what's going to happen in this film? Where not only is Calvin the full package and we get quite a bit of his package. Because he is wearing pretty tight. Pants are so tight three quarter. Those pants are painted on Wade. He was and God damn those guys. We're getting we're getting ahead of it. Let's get people to talk fans that's not that far literally made out of like flex tape that you have something. Then I'm like Leclair's Norway serves no way tape on their Danny would do any rock climbing in these address boots that this man is wearing no way. Okay let's get that part part okay. We're jumping ahead but at though it. Let me tell you at that point. I realized they didn't hire an actor for the lead role. They hired a rock climber. Who that's all their whole thing was like. He's got to be able to scale mountain in weird boots. And if you can do that. He's perfect for the part and so. I think they didn't do that climbing when I was watching that on. Mike do that kind of editing. All the time okay. It's like you're just over a grassy flower filled ledge and it's like they just cut that out to make it look like your ten thousand feet fine fine by any the lead of crawl Ken. Marshall did not go on to have much success after this real because this was Michael Drop his mic he his damn fund history. Yeah listen when that guy came on I was like Rachel guess who that guy is because I knew Liam Neeson was in this film and she's like Oh and I was like that I think is Liam Neeson and she's like no not really but it also doesn't not look like I could maybe for handsome Liam decent Liam Neeson came and I was like. Oh never mind that guy's not Liam Neeson it looks exactly like Liam Neeson's with a mullet is. Yeah and so yeah. I had mistaken there but also I was like why did they choose the most boring dude to be the lead of his. I mean like when even when you watch it and the the kings the king of the prince's like he's up to no good he's a warrior and then he comes he's like. Hey everybody I'm super nice and you're like that guy's not aware he's makes a perfect husband. Mike you know that from the get go. That he's a super sweetheart Okay all right. No one interpretation you. Don't think so Tyson the CAN. I finish telling HILLARY FINISHED IF WE GET. We want people to have an idea takes place. Okay all right you tell the story. Then ought all prints Calvin K. If I if I I say these names wrong ca some of them when you look at them spelled out look incredibly complicated. They rarely rocket name the prince. Yeah but the Prophet Guy in near In ear. Yeah Okay so let me go on. So the prince and the princess meet. It took a lot of lives to get the prince there right. They started off with the group. Three hundred with the slayers picked him off ended up with like ten people. Get INTO THE CASTLE. But no big deal. No sweat off the prince's back. They're still going to have marriage and his bride is looking fresh and ripe. So the day comes which happens to be the very next day after the guy gets underway. Close this castle. You can ride horses inside this castle right. I know what's going on the stairs. The mini you see the castle. You Begin to appreciate that. This is going to be a movie of Setsu big large set. Yes the castle is a giant set that that sets the tone for the entire movie is huge sets. I found I found Pretty Amazing. So anyway yes you can ride your horse right into the castle. No big deal. Yeah if you have an indoor horse you can definitely right around that castle. They're going to get married because they're going to give birth to the son who rules the galaxy and the thing is like he's going to rule the galaxy from world that still rides horses and fight with swords which I didn't understand whatever so as lasers no no they don't have lasers the the people of Kroll do not have to appear to have some sort of an electrical charge though when they read they. Don't they have a charge every time they strike slayer armor? How are you seeing this so deeply? Danny it's crazy like on a different level than us. I saw ten year. Old Is So anyway the marriage is taking place. They're about to exchange vows which requires them to exchange fire. That's part of their vow. At the princess. She possessed the ability to create fire in her hand out of water. And he's supposed to take that Byron right is what he's about to take her fire. This layer show up big party crashers blankets and they break into the castle. And the first thing you notice is that for being the two most powerful kingdoms on the planet they really suck at fighting Like the slayers are coming in almost unopposed walking up walls. There'd killing these what you would consider to be the king's guard the greatest fighters in the kingdom at whim like almost no no restraint. Yeah I kind of thought when I saw this that they only did one take on pretty much all the fights. Oh for straight in retake any of those they were like good enough ex now do show a slayer getting killed which is important because you instantly realize slayers are not humans. They appear to be human form. But when you kill one something like an alien comes out of the face and it's always the face masks that breaks and spills out and furrows into the ground. So it's like human form but worm operated human Okada. Yeah so that's what a slayers slayers not. It's not human So anyway the princess gets taken the print. Is you think dead big shocker. Thought he was not dead. The profit the man whose voice you heard at the beginning of film in Ear shows up to heal the wounded print. He puts them healing salve on the laser wound that he had in his shoulder. Exactly which was also a scene. I remembered I don't know why it made such an impression. Maybe I thought that's really gross. But yeah he creates paste. Yeah and puts it on the wound and that stuck with me as a child. I don't think that's right is what I thought the rest of the movie. The prince had a hole in his shoulder of his costume where he got shot. And I was like a lot of movies. Wouldn't do that. You'd that whole would be gone at some point. This was so realistic. And he wore is closed for however many days that that whole always maintained now describing rest of the movie from here on. It's easy the prince cal one has to do two things he has to acquire a weapon of untold power. The Glare And he also has defined the Black fortress now. The Black fortress changes its position which is super smart right every day or every other day. I couldn't figure out so he has to do those two things he also has to assemble Iraq Tau Group of fighters which is where a decent comes in and so those are his. Three quests part that happens well yeah. He goes in and out there. They find him. He's about to get ransacked by these bandits and gives the most unmoving speech I've ever heard and all of them decide to drop what they're doing as bandits making that print net cash and to follow him into battle. No they don't drop what they're doing because of his speech. I think they drop what they're doing because he possesses a key that only the king has and he shows that he really is the king that if you look at it that's the turning point for them it's like. Oh this guy instead of just being some crazy do talking about going to the Black fortress this is the king these guys still have some Krav of devotion to their king and kingdom and I think that's what turns to to be his followers. Okay so we hear approach a tale of a weapon Danny felt more about the grave. So the glaze. You don't choose the the chooses you. We've been in positions like this before sword in the stone Esq King Arthur story of King Arthur. So the profit guy in near tells Calvin Yeah you can defeat the beast but you're going to need a weapon special weapon and of course these weapons have never easy to get to. He's got to spend fifteen to twenty minutes of edits climbing the rock climbing fraud climbing. He would back then. No ropes filming in Italy in the DOLEMITE's is yeah. I looked it up. That's where they're filming it now so again very generous edits that just go on on the Horse. Riding and I love those Those edits thought the mountain looked awesome but man. It went on for avalanches. Oh yeah which was awesome part and eventually he reaches the cave. Because that's where you keep seeing what it means. I think the reason they had to go so long with this edit was because they didn't have anything for after this they were like the glazed has to be hard to get to. So what does he have to do in? They're like rock. Climb up there and then walk in now hole and they're like that's not a lot of obstacles to get the most important weapon like okay. Yeah that's true and they're like okay. Let's just show him rock climbing. Like wherever longtime yeah? It's super hard. He gets super sweaty anyway. Yeah and he doesn't boots regular like Leather soled dance boots the and then and those tight tight pants back brand. I don't even know if they had LYCRA. So those were probably non stretch the sheer muscle strength progress up every time eventually he gets to the cave and force the grave is hidden. It's it's under about six to eight inches of lava we think it's lava no IT'S LAVAS LAVA LAVA. Okay it was stated as being lava. And the thing that blows my mind is obviously. He'd loves the princess so much. I didn't even hesitate to put his hand in lava to get the globe. Like I don't care like Liz. Let's say to save Liz from the beast. I CLIMB UP THERE. Cool got to go to a colocation and then I I'm looking at the grave and it's under eight inches of lava I mean. The beasts can travel space in time. Maybe not such a bad alternative to me in my dirty horse run kingdom because reaching your hand into lava that that really stuck with me to that seen the I like how he didn't try he he didn't even try a stick or his source. Anything which is what I would have done. Yeah older like poke sick. And there'd be like Zach Industrial. How are you so sure? It's lava when lava isn't transparent like that you can't look down through eight inches of lava. It is bubbling smoking law day. Okay fine lava wanted to think it is. I know that so he reaches his hand in his hand starts on fire for a second OUGHTA bone. He's going to have bone hand down but it's going to be cool and I really was hoping that he pulls it out any skeleton like like one of those old Greek mythology movies where the skeletons are like. Oh that's another great movie for my us. Jason and the ARGONAUTS. Yes so I thought he was going to have like Jason Argonauts hand skeleton hand but he pulled it out and flush there because she's there and the grave because he was chosen right there and then the grave is encased and entombed in an Hari crusted lava look like breaded like breaded. Fried Chicken Nuggets. Breading falls off and reveals the shining bejeweled glaze which thin five blades pop out super frequent dangerous. Like how did he know to hold the? I would've hold they get the right way. Or is he gonNA get jammed by a blade he did it. But that's part of the he was chosen and called. I would have held it and taken blade right through the palm and then dropped the grave Back into lava where it would have been tuned again in Lava Inc Brennan Charcoal. And then game over. You know. I'm that part up right now. Where he's definitely holding it where he will be impaled when he out but then at the point win blades of pop out of this. Starfish is he is holding it in a way that he will not be impaled so that if he managed to in the just right before the blades come out. He adjusted his hand. Now he's got this awesome weapon. He runs down the mountain and seemingly insane times like fcat. All over the place gets to near and he's like so excited show near our God. He's about to chuck it in the near tells them do. Don't you can't just throw this thing around? Yeah it'll tell you when you're supposed to use it so now he's got this stellar weapon in for the rest of the movie. He never uses. Take the hey only use it. When it's the appropriate time by now you see him. Use it you're like. This movie could have been over in thirty minutes after he asked the grave and maybe he didn't even understand the full power of wave but the second he pulls it out and then when he pulls it out. He's allowed to use it. Willy Nilly on every single thing that he can instantly and we'll get to this aid pulls it out use it and instantly can't get it back that's the other thing it's like. Did he lose it? That's why we can't have nice things so he can't have the glaze because the chose an idiot to used it and in five minutes couldn't get it back. So yeah this guy. So he gets the glaze if he goes down they tell him that and so he stashes it on his person and then they hike back down the mountain. And and what happens next Danny so well every movie needs comedic relief of like C. Three Po. He's the brass one right. Yes so they. They came up with their own and they bump into a magician in this forest in some weird not important like branch of the story. The magician ear go or go urge the percent. Yes and at first. He's not going to join them because he thinks they're crazy but as he wanders away from these two he stumbles across the cyclops in the forest turns around runs back and decides to join their married. But he doesn't tell the people what he sees. Yeah which is weird. Because I'd be like dude. I just saw freaking cyclops. I'm coming with. You doesn't say that he just runs and just assumes that Prince Cal win will let him ride on the horse with him It's on the back of the horse with the prints and I'm like dude. That's that I'd be like dude. Get off my horse like it. Just seems very intimate. Okay who've only known each other but in not in on the planet of Kroll and that's where they might have custom hill person. You can do some sort of a magic but he can only do his magic can from other people is only to himself like he'll try to change somebody into something but he always ends up himself into that thing by the way he does change himself in his meeting with the Prince. He changes himself into juice and the special effects are out of this world. Really are pretty incredible. He also throughout the movie changes himself into a puppy. What else does he do Tiger Tiger? Just those three I think so. So he does that and my favorite part comes up a little bit later. We'll talk about it and second but it does include the cyclops and about this actor. He's been in a million things. But I think that what I most notably recognized him from that in Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. He Plays Charlie buckets teacher and he is the person who he's like teaching class but all he can do is like do experiments and then talk about things and he's like so say. How many one Kabbah did you eat? And Charlie like he's like okay. Two hundred is no no only to the. Why can't figure out to do you remember that thank you? He's an excellent actor yes his talents were us. They really were her the magnificient here. Steve Coogan Coogan Coogan in or whatever. That guy's name is no Coogan. Steve coogan yeah. Yeah so now. They've got hurt now. They got Ergo And they've got a group of three and now the touring the countryside lots of countryside horseriding and just as they go through a group a tight a tight grouping of rocks which is a perfect ambush spot right which jition mentions yeah go on. Tyson while and the leader Guy. The the old wizardy dude was like. I know a shortcut that will cut five days off our journey. We just have to walk through this elaborate set which is obviously an elaborate set. Another huge set. Yes yes okay. Endo on as they're cutting through the shortcut which a shortcut in bandit country always a bad idea idea always always take it because it's short shave off some time but I'd always leads to attack. An ambush takes place and these people aren't really committed to a life of banditry because they're easily swayed to join the group and this is where young handsome Liam. Niessen makes his appearances. Well yeah he's part of this group of bandits who now become the prince's army. Yeah we find out that the Liam nascent character later on in the film is like the womanizer of though yeah seven lives in there as role in a group of bandits so they go now again. We have countryside travel. They've joined the group they have to find the black castle. I mean the black just to get the black fortress remember it changes places they have to contact a someone called Emerald Seer. Something like that the seer So that's where they're headed and of course they get hungry. They get tired so they stopped for a time near one of Liam's wives and she brings them all food and apparently tons of prostitutes to the group and one of them though is under the sway of the beasts. Now you don't know this weight high but we didn't did we already go get to the wizard part. Is that after this? I think this years after this. We skip the sears introduced. Klopp's Seyran the cyclops. Yeah okay must be given a up you go into this year. They go into the Rock. They just step through right. The green the Green Emerald thing opens up and for some reason. These people always run headfirst into just magical openings. And they're transported to where the seer lifts the emeralds. Yeah and they're going to try and get him to tell them where the black fortress appearing the next year or two and so they peer into a spinning very nice special effects once again a spinning Emerald P. Chunk of Emerald Rock but the beasts is allow that so he blocks the sears view and the Sierra says we have to go to I believe is called like the Emerald Castle. Or something like that where there's so much emerald that the can't block the emerald seer from Looking and finding out where the black fortress is going to be so now. The group consists of the bandits. Arrigo the prince in ear and now the year in his apprentice new really quickly. The Magician Argo clings to and befriend. Yeah because I think he's a little kid and they become they become a group within the group but the boy is like what like a servant boy to the like. What is the boys relation to this year? They call him an apprentice. Susan Davis Okay. Yeah so he's going along. Yeah and then yes well. I think it's important to add the mythology of the cyclops. Who's now of following the group? So so we'll the cyclops appearance. If I'm not mistaken in the swamp saves air go right ear earlier for prior to going to the no because zero with no the sears with them in the swamp so grab this year with them in the swamp? Which by the way the swamp is another shortcut. I think and it's like they have to go through some swamp that nobody wants to go through. But that's of course you get to the place that you have to get to so they cut through the swamp and this is a really cool scene that always liked Because the the slayers just appear like they come up out of the ground. They're just like I always thought that was super cool. Another huge set by the way And yet so I I think the quicksand also takes place in the swamp right with Andrew. The swamp just like Princess Bride. They encountered quicksand and quickly. You know they're smart for being in a medieval world. They formed a human chain and they get almost everybody out but one guy is even touch fingers but the king is very heroic in that moment and forces everyone to create the human chain not to be confused with human cyclops or is he remained. Centipede gets it. And we haven't met the cyclops Yat right officials or he's not there yet because what happens now is they recover from the quicksand and the the the slayer show up and a fight ensues and like all fights in this movie. It's a terrible fight. Seem like everyone sloppy sword. Play one take done. Take One and done on. All the takes fight scenes. Yeah right when Ergo and I believe Tich or about to be killed by a slayer spear comes hurtling through the swamp at a tremendous speed. It's like not a usual spirits. Got Like three points to it. A semester pointed slayer and low and behold who is the savior of Ergo. It is the beautiful cyclops. Who's been following them stalking them. And this is my favorite part of the movie when they meet the cyclops. So ergo and the boy or they're having a conversation with the cyclops and they shake hands and at that moment you realize the cyclops is costume has no way for him to actually see full on paper. Machete mask with a weird looking. I and he can't see out of it because as to say cans. He misses the hand almost and they readjust and get the handshake. I thought about this Tyson. Go look at this cost. You might not have any depth perception with just one he will. He can see because he does perform stunts that I thought about this. After examining closely his face relatives the name of the cyclops. Ari'el the CYCLOPS. He does a lot of stunts that he has to see because when he ends up killing the fake wizard or see. He is running through the forest jumping logs. And so the cyclops costume has to allow for him to see he might not be able to see for low him. You know what I mean. But he has some vision. I imagined that was the only moment in the movie where they did a reshoot was the handshake probably took him like seven hundred issues to be like no a little higher noble loyal because when they reached in you saw they missed and then kind of were like readjusted in got it. And that's as good as we've gotten in seven hundred takes. Let's just roll with full? Cyclops costume was one of the greatest costumes ever made. I decided I found my new Halloween costume. Twenty twenty patient a psych offices so good and so anyways so they they realized that the cyclops is friend not fo- but the old man sear and the king have been like you've been following us for awhile now having you friend so yes. So here's here's the thing. The whole season Canadian the backstory cyclops at those also super interesting of the cyclops. Their people they started with two is but they made a deal with the beasts right. Oh is that true? How did I miss that is that is that real? I thought they made a deal with the beast Tyson. Right they were supposed to be able to. They chose the power to see into the future. They try. They traded traded an eye to the future but the only thing they can see is their own death. So would you magistrate Tyson? One I to see my own death I mean I pretty much can already see my own death in a spinoff cyclops. Rail spin off. Sounds like they've got a compelling back Chad that the prequel should be about how the glazed got into the lava. Oh yeah probably a cyclops. Dropped it there when he lost his eye and he was not a fair trade. I bet what happened was the demi-god me tried to sell it and then dropped it as he was trying to get it. The humans of door he guiseley open for a Prequel to crawl. There is something very important takes place during this battle in the swamp so I think that the slayer the slayers are there as a diversionary tactic because during the fighting to put down the WHO is blind right ironic so they put them on a log. Now this is the now is talking about earlier where an identical sier created by the beast suddenly appears in is a great scene behind the original series here and he creeps up to him and puts his hands on his shoulder neck area. Not In a strangulation and dig his fingernails grow into the original Sierra. And that's it's like the faces and the noises it's very disturbing. You're not sure exactly what happened. Maybe you don't want to know what happened. But then after the fighting ends they go back to the seer. Who is seated on the log as nothing's taking place and I can. Let's continue our journey. Were basically they're the says? Okay let's go Prints offers to guide the seer. The seer puts his hand on the Princess's shoulder and he opens his eyes for a minute and they're pure black. Yeah Okay now you know. It has creepy so creepy. Yes now evil see our. We'll call him the evil sere. His plans with warranted when one of the bandits offers to guide the seer. And so if you remember he's Kinda pissed off because he puts his hand on the bandits and it's like Abbie touching the prince. Yeah Danny I want that I want to that. I just thought of this now but I think I can incorporate some of the visuals that you're talking about from the film here. Okay onto the could this as a screen screen share and incorporate some visuals for people that are this is one of the best visuals than the cyclops close. Gauze failed is hands down the best part of the film with that hand. Shake Ya okay. So here is dying. Yeah Yeah I did. I found this as a child so disturbing his is. I mean just looking old people's always disturbing but to see one being murdered like this isn't mick experience. The beasts clone clone go. Yeah go to the part where he's creeping up behind. It looks like it's very. You're so right by this evil. The evil sere the clone sear. He's going to walk walk. He just walks the same. Yeah and that's that's what's crazy. Run up and be right here. All I thought was so cool. I mean remember this. Is the eighties. This is eighty three and star. Wars had done things way more impressive than this and then everybody else kind and he says. Tich that you thinking that is apprentice about to guide him. Oh boy did it is not oh no. He opened his eyes. Guys dies fingernails figure to them. And it's like I can't tell if he's enjoying it or he's not enjoying it. Look at that face is just taking the most painful dump we even saw a little bit of the cyclops their over here. Louis if we can get. Here's here's here's the cyclops all the handshake. This is Danny Halloween costume twenty twenty. This is the handshake. I don't think he could see very well. We are going to get the handshake here. Yeah the hand. The handshake comes a little bit of a blunder. Yeah outbreak there. You missed it by like ten seconds this okay so cyclops is gonNA shake hands with our with our lead a little bit of bad handshake like that. Yeah but that's still like you can still be like the cyclops. Can't see very well. Yeah all right. It's watch the handshake one. More time. One more one more shot here. We go cyclops. Can you see the hands get not very well? That's like me shaking hands a teenager with adults and maybe that is it was like because Saul cyclops is are solitary beings and maybe he hasn't had much shaking experience. Yeah so now. The evil imposter sear is guiding them to the enrolled. Whatever they don't know that they don't know that but the evil Sierra comes up with a plan to get the prince alone as only the France can take me the rest of the way which is classic like these alone so they start to go and the minute they lose sight of the Group. The fingernails started girl out. Now what's happened simultaneously? The cyclops stayed back for some reason. I don't recall I recall. Why did he had? He had to stay back because that was oh. That wasn't as far as he was going. No no no he. He found the old seer. Well what I'm saying. Is he stay back at the swamp he maybe he just protecting their rear like more. See your show into his on log the original sear emerges from the swamp and cyclops realizes that an imposter has taken his play the place of the original series and he sprints through the forest while holding his awesome spear and this is why the this is why. I think he can see through that mask because he's doing amazing. I mean this guy has got to be top of his class. Stunt man you know what I mean. He's just running through this forest and right as the evil series digging. Those would I'm guessing are poisonous fingernails into the neck of the prince. He does his like five hundred yard. Spear Chuck Right to the forest perfect hits the evil CR in the back the alien inside this year. Pops out name goes into the dirt. It's it's a very moving part of the film very very much so very much. So but they've got a problem because now they don't know how to locate the fortress so the the was a big part of it because member teachers place. It changes his place every day. So where does the Black Ford just going to be? There's only one way to find out but it Sou- it's even more dangerous than what they just went through. Yeah what they have to go visit the widow in the web who is obviously some kind of witch. I'm guessing and also Spider S K. Now this is another great part that the minute came up on the screen. I was transported to an you know thirty years ago to watch this movie because this part made a big impression on me. I think it's actually kind of a cool little side story. Yeah and what is the widow and the website where we get to the widow in the web? We're going to stop down and we have a little bit of a sabbatical to Liam Neeson's basically What would you call that that he's his concubine hideout Oh look now at the concubine hideout on their way to the widow and the web? Yeah so they're all hungry one of going on here. What are the members of the band group is like Hey Liam doesn't one of your wives live around here and he's like Oh yeah for sure? And anyway he like I said he recruits her to make some food. I think bring some prostitutes and one of these women that You know that shows up in camp has a thing for the prince. This is Leeann with one with one of his wives. They're very just one so this woman brings some food to the prince and you don't know well first of all Liam says. Oh who's this girl to his wife? There and his wife says she has some girl that we saved and brought with us like they don't know they do actually have a discussion about a little back story about her where she's just like was rescued with solid. Didn't know her but she was brought along so she's now with the group and she's serving the print some food and she's being very tasteless tasteless. Yeah now the beast the type pants is Campbell. That's sending the wrong message to her. Yes but the beasts is using this lady in the camp as a double agent. And he's got the princess by the way this whole time that we're talking about the princess trapped in the black fortress and she's running around seemingly not making any sense of where she is again. These sets are huge giant eyeballs. Remember she runs into the center of a giant. I I mean there's just these massive sets the pre the beasts. Juke never leave. You must marry me and this is where you find out that the beast is trying to marry the princess. Yes and that's easy super strange right. He he wants to have the child that rules the galaxy which weird because the beast already kind of everything. He's already very powerful. He doesn't need the some peasant woman kroll. He's already gone all the power he needs. Anyway she's running around she's trying to escape and the beast corners earned says your prince doesn't love you and kind of allows them to see this flirtatious exchange between the prince in this double agent. Scott in Kansas traffic say Tyson. I thought this was such a Dick move by. The piece is really was really. Does HE SETS. The tree sets this trap for the prince known that he sends this woman to go and come onto him and then he's like at the same exact moment. It's basically like hey let's face time and see what your boyfriend is doing right at this exact seconds and then it just happens to be the exact moment that this woman is hugging him and saying like oh. I'll I'll be the new princess. Cheaters be style. Would you like to see what your prince's doing right in the second? You see your boyfriend's down with this woman. We're paying to be very flirtation as an aggressive with him. Just not right. It wasn't right. 'cause he's a beast crossed the line and he's also catt fishing right now. Ask the form of the Prince and right and here's what the real prince is doing. So this is a lock on the beast shows that he can take any form he wants. Time insists wants him to be. Yeah most the time he's swamp monster form. Yeah he can take the Prince Prince's forum if he if she so desires yes anyway. What's cruel. Is that this double agent just kind of gets thrown onto the garbage heap by the beast when she fails at her attempt to seduce the print. Well she has objectives. The objective one is to seduce the prince in if she can't seduce the print. She's the film kill him but she can't do either Bankas he's too high bs powers already. Waning Yeah and so the beast kills her right there in front of everyone face timing the whole thing to that process which by the way trying to earn the heart of the princess. I mean. That's not something you want to show her. Yeah that's the best way. The beast is no cazenove. You know I don't know what to do. He doesn't know the language of love Not like Princeton press princess. Now he's like one of these guys like he shows up for flat with flowers for the princess and she's like oh no I already have. A boyfriend was screw you then I never liked you either. Yeah today me no no I. Didn't you smell them your ugly way what you wanted today me a minute ago? Should we move on yes okay? Let's go to the widow of the Weber with this is where the Prophet and Near? Who's been with us? The wise old man with the beard he has to go visit the widow. The and what you find out. Is that another cave. Love Caves in these story out in. This cave is an elaborate set of Web Senator Weber. Spiders nest an inside. That is the widow the web and what you find out. Is that to get to on the web where she can. Give you a prophecy. You have to cross through the Spider Web Man. The spider comes out and this is the same person I think he did. I read about this. I WANNA say he did Jason and the Argonauts the same stop animation guy. Anyway spider comes out onto the web and in near so slow like these scenes and they're meant to be this way he's going so slow to get to the center of the Web and this old and is all but it's like he's binders web. He's he spends too much time looking around. Like you just need to stay focused on that egg thing in the middle and you just need to go now the whole strategy forgetting I can. I see the spider. Come out I go back. There's no prophecy were a giant Giant spider explain though the the spy. Is the spider trapping. The widow in the web is the widow in the web married to the spider now so if their son no the widow and the web is there. It's punishment for her. Remember Killing The Sun. That we're GONNA find out spoiler alert this guy. They're a little dark. Yeah so she. This is her punishment. She lives in the middle of that Web. She has the power to stop spider machine. Only do it once so most people will go into the web and get a prophecy but she can't stop the spider from getting you. You go back out. And that's the that's the thing about the widow and the web so in ear go super slow and she showed he yells her name and it's her original name and she recognizes him so she turns this giant. What do they call those hourglass? And that'll put the spider on pause. She can only turn it once though. So that's the only ause again we did. You read the book Danny No so. The spider is sitting there like in stop animation version of pause and near still is going so slow like a young healthy male like the prince. He could have gone up during the whole pause spider pause Scott in the prophecy and comeback. Yes but because they chose an old man for this it would just it just backfires. So he gets to the widow and the web in the middle at little egg SAC. Right is the spider gets on PAS. Now the spider can't go inside the egg. Saxo he safe and he sits down and what we find out is that these two have a history that a near and the widow on the web or lovers at some point. She was super high and for some reason and he hallucinates her as being super hot the ever he sees her. Yeah she is. That's what true love is. Oh we got from that Yeah is that you always have is and always see your significant other as their most attractive selves. That's how they always are you right. Yeah I guess but even after she reveals to in the air that she was so mad when he left the that she killed his baby which he did know that he had. He's still says that he loves her. Like if you look like he's not even that mad about the Avedis got. He's trying to get out of the web to so maybe there's some strategically to okay. Yeah so anyway. She asked what what is the widow in the web do all day. She just sits in that. It's probably spider brings her stuff. That's what I'm thinking too. Yeah I mean that's got to be the all new like Disney web have its own nutrients. Maybe it's like a giant spider riding the jail. Yeah it's her jail. She always able to see the future when she gets this power. I think she was always something of a wizard or witch It sounds like that was kind of like their thing as a couple a making between these two is just fireworks all the time. She know that you near with would leave her now. Obviously she should use her little crystal ball to see that happening then she would have been half as no that she would kill her son. Yeah she's really not very good to see in the future but she can tell you where the black forest is going to be. And that's what she does. She's like he's going to be in the fields Blah Blah tomorrow morning. Yes and so thanks. But how do I get out? And she said she's going to be. We're going to see the younger version of the widow in the web also. Yeah Super Hot now. She says the only way to get out of here is to smash the hourglass. You have to hold the sand in your hand and as long as you can hold that sand in your hand you'll you'll live. You'll be safe but the sand trickling out all the time. So what you see. Next is near is fleeing with the sand in his hand and he's being super clumsy. If if I was holding what remained my life as sand in my hand. He is spilling it all over the place get through an obstacle course. I know it would be great for like a gladiators reality type of show like anyway. He's holding the sand spilling all over the place spider. Can't touch in spider get Super Mad. Goes back and kills the widow and the web. He runs down to camp holding the sand spilling it all over the place. This is his life. This is basically his life in his hands and right as he gets to camp yells where the Black fortress is going to be as the last grains of sand fall from his hand and he collapses and dies so Tyson. My kids had a lot of questions during this part of like Dad. What what is it in his hand? Why is he dying? I don't know I I wish I knew but it's the Santa Time Dad is that blood. I don't know sand. Yeah it's time for his nighttime. Make sure they listen to this section. The podcast is this about the so the problem is that the blackhawks is going to appear so freaking far away and remember we are living in a pre industrialized society here on crawl so poorest travel. No-one travels faster than a horse but Tyson. What do they have fire horses late horses? Yeah this the following scene a fire horses and rounding out the fire horses also. A big have made a big impact on me. Yes what was the impact? First of all they ran up these horses in what appears to be incredibly an incredibly dangerous shot. These actress actors are in the midst of what appeared very agitated horses and I always feel like one of them is going to get trampled. I don't know if you guys felt that way like they're jumping off rocks the horses of jumping off rocks. They're in an enclosed space. These horses are huge. They ended up enough horses for everyone. But the cyclops asked Tyson yet. These horses did not seem very fast as they are tending to wrangle them. They appear to get to fire speeds when someone is writing them. Yes as soon as the you know you dig your spurs into their sides. They will hit vire speed and maintain fire speed all through the night. Yeah all through the night all through the night. In at this is real life those horses would have been setting fire to the countryside for thousand leagues the those feet they go through a field and I think this is what stuck with me. I'm so surprised that doesn't burst into flame the fire. Horses are just setting everything on fire jumping huge distances. Like they can at I. Can they fly because they just the run really fast and fire shooting out? Then you find out. These horses can kind of defy gravity. I mean it's almost like In the way that like. Et is able to like a levitated. The BICYCLE THEY APPEAR TO I. I don't know what the actual Gr- specific gravity is on the planet crawl but these horses that they seem to just they the reach enough of velocity and they're able to just Seemingly defied the laws of physics. Yeah so defy the laws of physics. All the way in the black fortress entire about I do think that the producers of crawl may have been a little overly ambitious with the green screen that they attempted to go with because there are. There's a lot of shots of like with like the countryside flying by that I do not believe were real. You're viewing it through your modern. Cgi Saturated Lens. Some amazing things. You've seen things rob that you can't even tell our fantasy all right. This is one thousand nine hundred. Eighty three what we're seeing here is some of the finest work I mean. It's it's amazing would've been done if you were a ten year old child or hover old. I was when I I watch this. This is mind blowing has as far as I was concerned. When I walked from this movie there are horses on a planet crawl can defy gravity and shoot. Fire out of their hooves. Okay all right fine you gotta appreciate it for what it was. Yeah back then so anyway they get to the black full of Jersey. I was GONNA say once. They carry their momentum off the cliff. Their air aero-dynamics how that works slips underneath their chest lifts them. Yeah so it's only because they're going so it's like a Ferrari. A Ferrari went four hundred miles. An hour would fly. Yes okay and as a wise man once said I would rebuttal. That's not flying. That's falling with style. Oh yeah all right they get to the black fortress. Let's wrap this up real quick and nothing's ever easy. But supposedly getting into the black fortress is fairly easy because there's only like five people guarding and by the way they could have never any of those doors to defend the black fortress and all those people would have been. I'm guessing killed when the Black fortress disappeared. Yes so the our our group of heroes start to climb the black fortress as climbing some doors open up and some sleighs out of the rock. They're not of the road doors right. Yeah they come out and they start shooting layers now. All of a sudden the slayers have unlimited lasers up until this point every slayer could shoot one laser and then had to buy with sort but these guys are shooting lasers nonstop. Yeah and their deadly accurate. They've got our heroes pinned down behind the rocks. They're not going anywhere when who should appear to save the day. Tyson's best friend Raphael. The cyclops shows up on a fiery horse and by the way he's getting shot by lasers not even a problem for the cyclops which I mean we could use that throughout the whole movie anyway he. He's blocking laser shots. Everyone's behind him. It gets to the door the doors closing because the sun's coming up He going to hold the door open for them. They're all getting through. They always take away too long. Poor rail is getting crushed and again. This really stuck with me as a child. Rail gets squashed by the door rushed and they show they show. The whole thing is pretty gruesome guys Danny Dot. He's rushed for me now. Now how's IT unclear? He's didn't like a five inch. Space all you could see as his sad cyclops now. A couple things here. That did that if I may. Game of thrones spoilers incoming okay so click out if you have not seen game of thrones here but did George arm Martin blatantly. Rip Off the Horror Story from this. The cyclops going into holding the door here and not only that on top of that. The cyclops knows his own fate. The cyclops concern one thing. The future knows how he's going to die. No you're wrong because like the same exact thing is hold. Or that's wrong rob he. The cyclops was supposed to die in the desert where they caught the horses and he. That's why he stayed because that was his time and then they said well what if he betrays that fate and they said then he dies very painfully. Oh he accepts his fate. He's GonNa just like you know slip into sweet slumber or whatever but if he doesn't then he will it will he will get whatever. It's excruciating pain. So yes what? I'm understanding is that the CYCLOPS is in the desert waiting for his fate and then he's like F F it. I'm going to save those people. I'm going to ride or die as long as I can with them. Maybe I can make a change to this world and the universe and sacrifice myself and even if I can't see through this godforsaken mask to help my crew Rider he he could just like Easily slip in at this point. No I I don't know the physics of stone doors on Magic Mountain's 'cause it spring loaded like it was going to snap you let it go and we have to assume that. Marvin assume that so he's GonNa lose a limb at the very least because you don't shut a door like that with that I mean. He doesn't have the catlike reflexes socially that cyclops. I and no peripheral vision to just boom pop out of the door Bam shuts. He was done. Plus I see. This is the thing when people are holding doors and movies. They're the people going through the doors here to take their time It's like hey no rush guys being crushed slowly. Just take your time crawling through his legs. But the so ends rail the cyclops very sad ending. Danny I think a big theme of crawl is the idea of noble sacrifice. There is a lot of members of this band of men who come together to save the Princess and there are many noble sacrifices made along the way and right. Now we're to the point where one of our favorite actors is about to be sacrificed. Now you would think that a big headline star likely Niessen is GonNa die but right after holds the door open forum. Liam runs right into laser. Fire it takes one. Yeah it goes down. So He's out of the game so Liam Neeson's role in crawl. He's he's down he dies. The death is a big moment for him in the leader of the bandits like they were best friends. So now they're in the fortress which is huge Nah. I don't even know if you're someone who breaks into the Black fortress how you find anything on the death star though. I like some schematics of the complex. Fortress come his for the sake of apply that true love finds a way right and that he could sense where princess was well and he has the glazed steel. Are we forgetting about the grave? Maybe the grave is guiding. Tyson vibrates as you get closer. If that's true. Yeah that's a good point is about the. Let's assume the GLADE is the guide because you're not going to find anything in the Black Fortress? I bet most of the players don't even know where they are. They can't find the bathroom now. They're in the fortress. They start to run through the hallways and the floor opens up which was also a cool scene and it's it opens up a crack in the people fall down not even that deep like another room. That's almost bigger and nicer than upper where it's like. The Lid opened and then was going go then clothes back down so you think they made a giant. They had rubbermaid make giant. It opens up. Some people fall into group gets separated. Great move by the way if your the beasts because that's the first day and get a divide and conquer so he splits up the group Ergo and Tich and up in in a different place. The head of the bandit guy ends up and the prince decides he's going to just run off into the Solar. He's got this right with on by his side. He could do this. Thank you for giving me this bar guys. Screw you off on my own solo mission. So he breaks off to go fight. The beast Ergo is trapped with Tich and the bandit into two other guys they just wander into a spear filled room. Yeah it's like a dead end the starts to close in just like star wars except for giant spears into protrude one of the guys in the band group drops a knife. Which if you're in a room that is closing and it has spears coming out and it stops. Yeah like count your blessings drops in sinuses. Diaz he decides when it stops now would be a good time to go back and retrieve this knife that dropped and no one stops him. I don't own no don't move. Don't move no he goes goes I think he takes a spear a wall spear super slowly by the way super slow right into it. Looks like he's back I can tell who's back and if you notice. The spears are very robbery and her. So don't you guys aren't guiding the soft spears that make it look like they're jabbing into they're like oh. I'm going to have one close to my throat and you can see him. Like actually like manipulating. I noticed that there really manhandling spears but the one guy takes right in the back and here. No reason yeah. Theses ran into a cold sack guy. Beard Yeah Ergo and TICH HE ERGO turns into a lion or tiger to defend pitch against some slayers does a great job. But let's go back to the prince who locate the. Dome and somehow knows that inside that dome is the princess so now after fighting all this time now is the moment when he is going to take out the glare mainly use it to defeat the beast all this time no he. He didn't need it when they were trying. To get into the fortress that would have been a great time to use instead. He sacrificed the cyclops. So now he takes out the boom the bejeweled glade. Pops out the blades. And what you find out is that the glaze doesn't possess lasers it is like a throwing star. They can spend endlessly. Cut Anything and if you hold out your hand that seems to be what it and move it around. It's like this is a mind of its own. Yeah he knows what to kill and what to destroy and when to come back and win to just hover so the glades spins light crazy starts just like fly here. Yeah like it's something that the grave is something any to Home Depot and buy right now I. It's probably seemed really cool back then like if you went back in time with a circular saw in the Medieval Times. Show that people they'd be blown away but for us we're like we've got a grave almost we'll have a glaring the garage Yeah I I actually imagined like I actually imagined the guy who made the glazed designed the grave and him being pumped and then everybody being pumped around him and be like we need a mythical weapon. That's like kind of cool and the dudes like I know what you want shows up with this thing. And he's like that's not all has blades come out but we're going to not you know off. This is the movie profits. Sold a thousand throwing stars because I bought a lot of throwing stars asthma so many I threw him at my wall and then put a poster over all the holes because I wanted to glaze it. Never they never returned to be. I've never even gotten a boomerang to return to me. Yeah up throwing star so the glade cuts open the Dome and inside is the princess and the beast during all. This Commotion Is Asleep. Apparently ASLEEP BEHIND GLASS CHAMBER. Which by the way terrible leadership as a general the pieces falling asleep at the wheel or the switch. He's had all this fighting. He's got intruders inside the Black Fortress and he's sleeping so they start to slowly creep out the dome and they look back toward the beast was sleeping. Which by the way. The beast is a swamp monster and always distorted by some kind of filter. Yeah and the piece is gone. You know it's one of those. Shes moments where where's the bee's run start to run the beast emerges he smashes breaking his own house down to make a scene and now the grave fights the beast and it actually doesn't take very the beast can shoot fireballs out of his mouth like a flame thrower that's his power. He's got a flame thirty one of his power. All of his other people have lasers but he's a flame thrower out of his mouth of fight. Ensues unless you say that the glaze lands a killing blow in the beast chest. What we think is a killing blow. That's right the the beast collapses to the ground. The Prince of Princess. Begin to run away. No no sorry. They try to retrieve the glove using what Tyson was described the force so the force. Yeah but the is stuck due to went to the sternum like classic thank. You can't get it out. They consider A. They're going to go up and they're going to get it out of the corpse of the beast and that's when it reawakens right when they're looking at the beasts rises the is stuck the Glib can't be retrieved. They start to run away. Follows no dude. You can't without the glare. There's nothing but true. Love finds a way and what they discover is that they both supposedly the prince has had a flame thrower in his hands this whole time or or had the ability because the Princess. This goes back to the wedding ceremony where they had a fire and water and is this a property of the indigenous people of crawl or stuff to do with the prophecy of him being the prince and her being. We don't know but the says at a moment when everything appears to be lost the beast is hovering over. There shooting flames out of his mouth. She hands him fire. They finish the wedding ceremony and all of a sudden the prince now has flame thrower hands. Which would be awesome to have. And he begins to fight the beast now. They spent to this point at this movie. They've probably spent millions on these sets dramatic sets but when it came to the beast itself they must have really script because the beast looks awful again. It's like a rubbery swamp monster from the fifties and early distorted lens with it through a distorted land. So you can't see all the problems. I think that the glaze was like the feather in Dumbo for you didn't need. He didn't ever need the leave but he needed the grave to boost his confidence to realize his inner strength. Yeah so you're saying that he could just with the flame thrower although did he get the flame from Princess Lissa. Do they need to be together? Together you're right. They had to be together so he hasn't had her hands only up to the right now. He's got flame thrower hands and he puts him to get use and he flame. Throwers the crap out of the peace. Feast explain through her mouth but as we all know flame thrower mouth does not even doesn't one mouth two hands hands the toast the beast and then room. They have to get out of that castle now because things are falling apart. Whenever you kill the end guy the castle crumbles castle always crumbles because for some reason those two things are tied so now begins the scene of locating everybody. Who's still alive in the rag? Tag Group name getting them safely out into Phil and that's what they do. They struggle they run. Everything is collapsing. The it's it's a near thing they get out into this field and the black fortress is taken back up into space one piece at a time and something that bothered me at the very end is that they don't know really where they are. I mean they're in the middle of nowhere but they're also happy they just get up and they start walking. It's a where are they going yet? Did the black fortran horses again during the night today. Yes it moved. It moved while they were in it. Yeah so move near their house. How can that be yeah right around the house? Liam niece got another wife Perfect perfect dude just YMCA five but instead right yeah. So you wouldn't have that in the band. Bandit King of the guy who's head of the band. Is He probably knows most of why are these? The only people that made it out of the down to the six of the prince the princess the Kid Argo and then two of the bandits. That's it to the bandit. Yeah that's the most wholesome bandit and then the leader of the bandits who was pretty smart. Yeah yeah the most wholesome band. The very first bandaged joined the group and one of the final scenes is he unlocks the chains or the wrist cuffs. That were once handcuffs of this bandit. He should have done that way. How much better will fight or would the band have been without these giant iron hand cuffs on the whole time because it was obvious he can use those as shields. That's true. It was a broken handcuff handcuffs to give you an idea. They weren't they weren't connected or anything but they were still there but yeah they could deflected some blows so thus ends the rain the beasts. We're going to assume that the prince and princess go off and they will now. He's a King King in Queens Kid and somehow that kick rules the galaxy on a horse. That doesn't happen the movie. That's not happened but this is what we're assuming that's the prosecutor again. Maybe THEY DIVORCED. Maybe after give maybe after going into the. Black Fortress Never talk suggests. They got divorced shortly after. Well I think the reason why they never did a sequel was that this movie lost a lot of money at the box office. Tyson movie I. Let's finish by reading some of the the reviews before we get to reviews. Lease them staff. This movie cost twenty seven to thirty million dollars to make and brought in sixteen point nine million dollars at the box office. Wow Dude twenty seven to thirty million quickies putting out ten minute shows at that price right now That is crazy dude. In one thousand nine hundred eighty three. That means that by today's standards it would be sixty four trillion dollars to make this every. Read my favorite review of Kroll at the time. I'm assuming this was done at the time and it says Kroll. It is a hot hollow wind which only reminds us of what a pleasant breeze feels like an angers us because it isn't one sting gotta stink. Yeah I thought you were saying that sting was the one who wrote that review. No sting wasn't another movie. I think Dune this probably sitting in. I'm doing they're redoing Dune right with Timothy. How Alamein Shallow may yeah? I'm excited another review. One of the most boring from Roger Roger Ebert and gene. Siskel one of the most boring nonsensical illogical fantasies longtime. Okay and that is a long time so crawl now. You don't see it. We basically took as much time as the movie takes to tell you about the movie so in the time you listen to. Us talk about it. You could have watched it your own opinions you. This was free and also that you listen to the audio of this and you can multitask. So was so much fun. Yeah it was great and thank you Danny for introducing us to crawl months maybe years ago and now we finally all got to watch it. Every time I recommend something to people I get really worried and I go back and watch it. That's why I watched it the day we brought up the idea of doing a whole podcast on it because I watch it thinking. Do I want other people seeing this and thinking that this is something. Oh yeah yeah and I gotTA say like it. The first half of the movie. I was like man this snack and reflect well on year old me yes but by the end I was like no no. This is good. What is your crawl? Strange Brew Strange Brew to do to. Have you seen strange brew right? I have not what now how that is of another movie of my youth right there. Yeah that's what I'm saying. I remember there was a time where I was watching. Strange brew every Yeah okay good one. Maybe we should do that. One next give it some time and do another strange brew review. Yes I love this. This was so much fun today. Danny Prequel affir- crawl award or complete reboot. Now I say prequel following the cyclops people in their promise with the beast. That's smart. Yeah and rob. You never told us what your role of what my crawl is. I'm trying to think of a movie that is from the this period of time that I have seen many. I've seen many times Boy trying to think of something. That's just not super mainstream that I a that I could talk about. I don't know if I if I have off the top of my head about it find out maybe Yeah I'm trying to think of something that that would be obscure. Yeah that I mean I don't know if Strange obscure enough. But that's what I want to get the jerk. I watched the jerk quite a bit too. Yeah so this. This was great. It was great next week. We will get back to the traditional fare here of news af back to the news af that you know in love. We are two weeks away from news AF two fifty. Wow can you believe that? Danny that means I'm going to bet she one hundred and fifty pounds just posted on your story. We should all try and be able to bench pounds. There's no way any of US squat to fifty right I every I don't know that is so much weight. I bet guys. We all have the power within us. Engine fifty but if we don't realize that power then we won't bother to some in my inner cyclops and I'm going to put up to fifty Stephen F. To tear all my pectoral muscles to do so okay. All right Danny well this was so much fun. going on mediocre amateur any. Will you be recreating a shot for shot remake of crawl sometime soon? Actually client that part. Where he's in Italy. I thought what if this is what sparked my interest in amounting mediocre amateur. Because that's exactly what I film. Basically for every episode of Mediocre Amateur. So maybe if I can get out there if things open up I will go to Italy and recreate the famous glare. Will you do it in dress boots and I? It's I will have Liz. Make me those exact tights too dangerous to do it in boots. I mean they were willing to risk the life of their you. Top actor for that but isn't that crazy that they put him in those boots for those scenes. So yeah that's what I'll do. Rob Mediocre Amateur Kroll style. Yes a remake. Okay and what do you have gone on that? You could talk about a got some top secret stuff. I can't talk about but I also am going to be in Missouri Branson Missouri July thirty first to August second at a pickle ball tournament. Whoa yeah it's all coming together and then stay. Tuned got some more stuff in the works coming up but right now it's still in the works guy all right. So in the meantime follow Tyson Apostle on Insta- on on twitter. Tiktok Tick Tock. Yes I made a tick tock. Music video the other day. I saw it your family. Everybody who ever had fun. Yeah it looked fine. Yeah that's what we do on the fourth of July. So that's that's the most exciting thing we have gone these days. Yeah is Mediocre Amateur GonNa get on Tiktok to and now music video could barely handle is too much too much. Everything teach their own. Guess all right So we'll be back next week with more news af until then take a good one. We did a guys.

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Hour 1 - (08-13-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

49:51 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1 - (08-13-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net production available on apple podcasts and podcast wind. Everyone knows the risks of drunk driving. You could get in a crash or people could get hurt or killed by. Let's take a moment to look at some really surprising. Statistics almost twenty nine people in the united states die every day. A an alcohol impaired vehicle crashes. That's one person every fifty minutes and even though drunk driving fatalities have fallen by third in the last three decades drunk driving crashes still oh claim more than ten thousand lives each year drunk. Driving can have a big impact on your wallet too. You can get arrested. You can incur huge legal expenses. You could possibly even lose your job. So so what can you do to prevent drunk. Driving plan a safe ride home before you start drinking designate a sober driver or call a taxi. If someone you know has been drinking take the keys and arrange for them to get sober ride home. We all know the consequences of drunk driving but one thing's for sure you're wrong. If you think it's no big deal. Don't become another statistic stick. Don't get in a crash. Don't kill anybody. Don't kill yourself. Just take a couple of minutes plan your evening get sober ride home drive sober or get pulled over okay. You're craving something spicy during your commute am i right what i do. Snack on blue diamond saracho flavored almonds. They're really good and spicy and almonds are superfood superfoods. Don't deny your cravings eat them. Blue diamond almonds crave victoriously. The dan patrick show was sponsored by a._d._t. D._t. Real protection is the latest innovation in smart home security from a._d._t. With everything from video doorbells indoor and outdoor cameras smart locks and lights all controlled from the a._d. App or the sound of your voice you could even stay connected to your family and friends with the a._d._t. Go app including location sharing driving activity alerts and emergency esa westbound that's a._d._t. Real production brought to you by a._d._t. Siri is joined by the ford. Dan at a lot of these guys are not gonna make final. It's dan patrick <hes> tower one on this tuesday and annette's dan patrick show glad to be on board here in los angeles the home office of a._t. And t. direct t._v. by the way i'm going to say something. This has nothing to do with anybody. I ran into yesterday or today. This is just something an observation. It's he's. This is an observation that i've had for a long long time. Have you ever been around somebody who asked how you're doing and then when when you get ready to tell them how you're doing they've already moved on. I'm not gonna say that. Management has done that before to me. Maybe a couple of the mother ship but it happens sometimes where somebody say how's the family and then they keep walking and then you go there fun. Have you guys had that happen to not here not with th- management on campus because everybody loves everybody here and everybody spends quality time asking about how we're doing. Yes polling. Sometimes you meet people who are kind of like busy hotshot type people go to see. How's everything going. Good family good good. Take it easy and what if you just one of these times when they say family go you so you know the the seven-year-olds not really pick up the reading and she's going to be in a kind of program and we're waiting for the test results but we just got the blood test back actually and yeah. You got a minute to grab a cup of coffee because i tell you about the ten year old. She's an accelerated program. I'm loving it but do you teach somebody in management how to sound like management. Hey how's how's it going. Paul just natural. I don't know it feels like that's what people in management hey. How's it. How's the fam ep the truck. I saw the truck love ya yes. We love to be fair. I've had to listen to tie pretend he knows who all these people around here are to some extent the desperation desperation is voice all good to see you. Do i know this. I have no idea is he knew i have no idea i think a lot of it is and i'm guilty of it too checking that box of like minimum kindness of the euro. You've got things things on your own and i think management. Doesn't i don a box to check for minimum kind. I that's what i call it. What is minimum kind. I think a lot of people get caught up with their day and they think they're very important. They gotta get to there and i've done it to their email there texan. They don't have time for a long conversation. They don't necessarily want the detailed answer her back but they could say in their minds did ask how someone was doing talking about you right. I'm saying i've done good is referring to and then you know you briefly feel bad about okay. Go on with your day but you're able to somehow check that box mentally that you said hi to that person you a pleasant kindness toward with gaza they played bonnaroo ladies and gentlemen minimum kinda yes mclovin time really you have no interest in these people just want to get through that social interaction and don't take time and the date is uncertain moments your focus their even yesterday there were there was a group huddling and catching up and talk and stuff and i was worried about the guest situation and i kind of it didn't join the social atmosphere because i needed to get some stuff done so i don't know if that counts as like not caring about other people hopefully appreciate that. This wasn't supposed posted a confessional for you to tell me about how you interact with people. This is management not here at a._t. And t. every here no no that the management entertainment we have here. They're very very good people. Do they wanna be able to look themselves in the mirror and say i said hi to everybody. Even though the spent maybe four seconds with each person yes well. I knew a little kindness when i walked in yesterday was very early about four or five a._m. I know the camera guys here met them before many times but i walk in. I give a quick handshake how you doing and and then i mean that speak to them for the next few hours because we're working so i tried to get that. Hello checked off to be polite mckiness but you're not saying something to them where you go. Hey how's the family because i don't care how their family out. I don't want these guys. They barely have an apartment more like they don't have a family. Wow i would just like to. How's it going to see that. Nobody here has family really minimum alright. Has you can tell welcome to the program already in progress here. It's a fine line between minimum kindness and minimum a wholeness. Yes i go both sides yes for because sometimes you deal with that person. That doesn't get the social cues of like that. You need to wrap compensating of which that's unbelievable you said that do do you know what you just said about social cues i tend to ramble but you start engaging too much conversation with someone on the other and they actually want to tell you the whole life story in your things to do for the show you that somewhere to be and how do you wrap up the conversation. You just admitted you do then. I guess i had done all of a sudden. This became a therapy session because she wanted to get something off your chest about the way you treat people. I was just joking about and how management will walk by and go. Hey how's the family and they don't care. They keep walking. Keep walking. Hasn't that happened where now you're engaged in a longer conversation frustration that you envisioned and now you're kind of stuck in there how do you how do you make this end so right. That's what we're all wondering. How do we make this phone comes out. We got this guy's trying to right now. You've never been on the phone with someone just kept rambling and then you're like anyway kids bleeding from the head. I gotta go and they continued so you you go down stairs like i really got to go. So what are you guys doing this week. <hes> welcome to minimum kindness tuesday here on the dan patrick show <hes> direct t._v. audience number channel two thirty nine and be our live dot com. They carry all three hours. We're here in the rich eisen studios on the campus of direct t._v. a._t. And t. doug gottlieb stop by dougie fresh. We got a basketball hoop out there. Mclovin being mean spirited knowing gottlieb's struggled at the free. Throw line in college was going to put out a temporary free. Throw line just say that was between us us now. Do i have to say that the doug that was on monday. I could say that nobody when you tell me something. Then tell there are times when you say hey not for air yep to say twice doug minimally minimum kindness that's minimum maximum meanness. <hes> former cfl legend sean salisbury will join us. We'll talk some football with with him all right. Let me start with the big news because it has to do with the cowboys therefore it's bigger than any other situation every time i go online and it seems like like the numbers for dak prescott. Keep going up. I there was the report. It was thirty million. Then there was a story he wanted forty million. I've since learned this morning that this this is a story according to my source the cowboys league this. They leaked that <hes> he wanted forty million dollars to try to curry favor with fans fans now once again. This is a source here who saying he thinks that the cowboys leaked this and said look how greedy they're being therefore. The fans are going to be on the cowboy. We cited this now. I haven't heard anything specific from the cowboys or prescott so i don't know what the actual dollars are. My source also said and he's not involved in these these negotiations but he's keenly aware of what's going on and he said my advice is bet on yourself and if i'm dak prescott scott what i would want him to do is to year deal sixty three million dollars all guaranteed you get the new t._v. Deal that comes up you. You hit the market again and you could benefit even more. This was strategy that my source said he thought russell wilson was going to do aaron rogers was going to do but dak prescott bet on yourself two year deal all everything's guaranteed sixty three million dollars then you hit the market again and you could ring that cash bill again yeah this almost seemed like the kevin durant plan where you sh- order to deals to keep re upping as the money goes out well that was as you know it's interesting you bring up durant because the analogy that my source said is that you have to take the approach the way the n._b._a. Players do it just do it two years control. Oh you're a control as much as you can. Get what you need what you want and that would be the strategy here for dak prescott doesn't seem like that's going to be <hes> and my source were says dak has leverage here but maybe you ask for forty to end up at thirty four but this according to my source the cowboys leak this to make dak canoes agent look greedy but i don't know where he stands as far as value. I don't think every every starting quarterback who's up next is going to make more than the predator their predecessors. I don't i don't. I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's a great business logic. He's not a top five quarterback now. He's a top five quarterback right now because it's his turn to get paid is see better than matthew stafford. Now mean go down the list. He's not better than matt ryan but it's it's his next he's next up here ear and then jared goff is going to be up there. We already know what carson wentz god. He's not as good as carson wentz and you start to get into this game of dak prescott. How good is he. He's is really good and really bad valuable to the cowboys if we put them all in a lineup and you're just picking your quarterback. Just start your team. Dak prescott not getting picked anytime soon but right now he's valuable. He's got leverage but you don't cowboys got to figure out how to pay all three of these guys but you gotta get back and amaury taking care of first and then how about this should your best player make twice as much as your second best player because because that's what this is gonna come down to is he gonna make twice as much as what ezekiel elliott is gonna make but ezekiel elliott's actually the best player ironically. I know what you mean yeah but it's the quarterback i mean. The most important player is still the quarterback on virtually every n._f._l. To it comes down to the quarterback but hall of famer though right ironically but he's not going to get paid thirty million so the point is the quarterback is going to get paid. Should he get paid twice as much as your second-best player and it might come down to that with ezekiel elliott. Is he gonna get sixteen million a year. He might cooper. Amari cooper also make more than ezekiel elliott. So what would you pay him more than zeke. I think the wide receiver market is a little higher the franchise tag way higher. I don't know but yeah i've i've actually read a couple of people take cooper. Numbers might be bigger than the elliott numbers k but i don't understand that if i look at you and go okay it's dak prescott turn. How about. I say you don't want deck year. Were twenty any seven million dollars not hey well. The last guy got so you have to get this. I i mean it's it's great if you can do it. I just think it's it's flawed business logic. If i'm the cowboys i just go no. This is what we're paying you. Brady got twenty three but look at the list there of quarterbacks and what they're getting paid is dak. Jack prescott better than kirk cousins. I tell you about the same okay and what's kirk cousins eight yeah. He got it all guaranteed though now if you start got to run he's not better than matt ryan. He's not better than matthew stafford but these guys got paid a couple of years ago. Stafford stafford's a bargain at twenty five million and if you look at it yeah any chance of cowboys do with deck what the redskins did with kirk cousins and franchise tag them once or twice because you're still in that he's he's he's good. Is he great category. His stats are nice. They're they're nothing special. There are other. He's like a good quarterback running team but if i was the cowboys i i would propose the two year deal therefore you get to see a little bit more of dak prescott. He gets guaranteed money. He gets hit the market again. I think that's great business. Shenice for both sides both sides win. Jerry knows that this this year next year the two most important years of trying to win the super bowl if my agent called me and said i've got sixty sixty three million guaranteed for two years to pass on that type of life changing money that means injury stinking whatever i'm guaranteed sixty sixty three million if i just say yes on the end of the phone call but i would do this if i'm the rams with jared goff. I wanna see at least one more year. You played extremely extremely well. We obviously had a disappointment in the super bowl but i'm gonna give you guaranteed money and that's what they want and you can now have an n._b._a. Contract where it's two two years you're controlling your marketplace and then you go back into the market in two years and then you can go next man up in two years. You're gonna make a a lot more money and everybody benefits here. You got a poll question for me mclovin well. If you're gonna do the question who you wanna quarterback dak prescott or who's like the perfect equivalent. Who's the right. Is it carson wentz. These are both in the n._f._c. No winches winstons better cousins. That's pretty even joe flacco. I guess you would want diabetes way younger yeah how about golf even though jared goff got to super bowl. They're still question marks about both guys if you put put golf prescott. Maybe one other goff was at m._v._p. Candidate though i don't think prescott was anywhere in the same vicinity last year yeah but what doc does to the cowboys is different than what golf does with the rams in wednesday's with the egos you know these quarterbacks serve a different purpose. They play the same position but you don't load up with dak prescott and say hey. You're going to throw it thirty five times right but is that a fund can be dax not as good as those guys are just he's not as good as those guys right but he's equally as important if not more so with the cowboys yeah and you know that's where he's arguing his value in the marketplace here. Could you say of elliott's so good and the line is so good and the defense is gonna be great that any other quarterbacks coming there when to. I don't know what their ofensive style is going to be here with the new offense coordinator <hes> because they don't say dak go win a sa- game now not not like these other league quarterbacks and i don't know if dak is capable full of winning games on his own where you just go. Hey two minutes to go. Dax got the ball boy. Am i confident here. You feel like hey they got guys who can make plays in zeke and mark cooper but you don't look at. I don't think you game plan for dak prescott. Do game plan for carson wentz. Yes jude game plan for jared goff probably not are you gain planning for kirk cousins. No you're not you're game planning for matthew stafford. Put your game planning for aaron rogers. Are you game planning for mitchell trubisky. I maybe that's maybe that's the litmus test do we do. We have a game plan to to stop you patrick mahomes. I gotta stop him like it. Starts with patrick mahomes yeah pull. It seems like the game plan against the cowboys is to make that throw thirty times because they're not handing off to the best player yeah. That's not a that's not a great sign. No i wouldn't i wouldn't pay him that kind of money. I would say dak we love you. You get far more love because you're a cowboy's quarterback farm you got. Can you actually say that though in a meeting i if you're honest with him and just say here's the deal all right between us. This is what we're offering by the way how's the family good. Thank stackhouse mississippi state bulldogs minimum amass bulldogs wherever you minimum minimum kindness tuesday house family hey come on in. Hey mclovin. How are you so are they paying him because he doesn't get in trouble like ezekiel. Elliott is that part of it. Too is such a solid. He's such a good dude solid face of the franchise like is that have dollar evaluate your quarterback it probably does. I don't know i think these owners just one whoever's going to help them win. The raiders brought in vont as perfect and richie incognito. You think they went <hes> you know. I think these guys are great in the community. Well i mean the raiders are a model. The raiders are supposedly the team. That's been doing a wrong for two decades. I don't know if they're gonna go dax not as good as these other guys but we're going to give them a little bit more because you don't what he's a nice guy. I think it is true. I think his personality is part of <music> this deal. I ain't stability okay. I love his role with the cowboys. I think he's better than what advertised but he's he's not a forty three million. He's not a thirty five million dollar your quarterback he's just not unless their offense have strategy changes what i ask him to do is manage again and remember alex. Smith managed to game although he hated that. I called him again manager but that's what is a game manager. You got a lot of money yes he did did and so we'll back but his his this is what quarterbacks used to big barge star bob greasy you know they were game managers and they'd be giving they went to the hall of fame by doing that and look troy aikman would not be a hall of famer with had the three super bowls without the three super operables even if he wins one but he got no way too much credit because he was too cowboys quarterback. Tony romo would get a lot of credit. He's the cowboys quarterback. We know who the cowboy quarterbacks are. Yes mclovin to remember when i sorta told phil simms. Jay cutler was a gay manager. Then phil simms relay this information mason to bill ballantine who said it was the stupidest thing ever heard it was like five years ago i think phil took me out of context and actually bill belichick said that's dumbest thing mary that was so good and you were taken out of context but color is the opposite of a manager if he could a gay man it's good so bella checks tade mclovin said what the fact that the fact that phil simms is quoting you to check mclovin says jay cutler. There is a gay manager bill. Did you hear about the other day. Get all that darkness smartest of j. colors game. How's the family that will take a break. We'll settle on a poll question here. We'll get phone calls as well. Dan patrick show brought to you by legalzoom. Go to legalzoom dot com today. 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That's not veneer that solid stuff progressive can't save you from becoming your parents but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations. I guess in tonio brown is going to show up at practice today. He didn't retire. He didn't get his helmet but <hes> he decided that he was going to show up. Today and tonight is hard knocks. Should the first shot of hard knocks be antonio oneal browns helmet or his feet or both. Can i get a shot of both of those. That's what i want is antonio because this is all about antonio brown. Antonio brown has made this about him. You know he he falls into a long line of selfish wide. Receivers wonderful talent going to be a hall of famer charismatic but he's made this about himself and it'll be interesting to see how that plays out because because he's gonna want touches. He's gonna wanna be the star. He's he's going to vegas. We don't know of derek. Carr is plus. Its performance over health. He wanted to have his old helmet here and if the helmet is deemed unsafe by the n._f._l. And i talked to somebody earlier today about this and i said to the players have any say in this and <hes> my source said yes players have a say in the new helmets. They were given a heads up. No pun intended to be able to adjust us to this new helmet and everybody's a creature habit. I was told this <hes> by somebody with the n._f._l. They said there are players who don't pull their socks up to the required height because they don't feel comfortable playing that way. They get a fine every week because they don't want to conform to this is everybody's a creature of habit. You know could tom brady have played without deflating footballs are being accused of then of course but you play in. There's a comfort level that you have of. This is how i want the football. This is how i want my helmet. This is how i want my ankles tape and my source said antonio jio brown is a creature habit. He wants a helmet and he wants to go out and play in that helmet but the fact that you would rather you would put performance over protection. Tells tells you a lot about when people say these players will never go for an eighteen game regular season and they probably will pay him enough now. They don't look at mortality eighty and did you look at mortality when you were twenty two. Did you go man. I hope i live to be thirty forty fifty. These these guys aren't thinking about that the thing about now and what do i get but antonio brown is apparently going to show up today yes and if you look over history defensive backs and wide why does she over the years got rid of kneepads. It used to be a rule that you have any pets. They said we can't run like we want to. <hes> there's there's lots of different cases where guys just where different things that they're they wanna play with and stacy his second. Well even five pounds there guys you don't wear pads then basically wearing tights from the waist down yeah so so antonio brown is going to show up and i don't know what that means for the raiders but <hes> i guess things are a little bit better. Yes mclovin i think. Do you think something else is going to happen. Though i mean you got to remember. Antonio brown didn't show for a week of meetings in pittsburgh last week foot now the helmet i don't know i. I wonder wonder if he's gonna settle down. What the deal do you okay and i know what you're saying. Yes i do think there'll be other issues with antonio brown because because antonio brown is sort sort of checked out checked off the reservation here because it's about him you know with the steelers. You had to conform a little bit more. This is ben's team. You know you're you're an integral part here but this is the steelers. That's a powerful brand while you go to the raiders used to be a powerful brand. You gotta head coach. Who's trying to reestablish himself. You got a quarterback in in limbo and then you have a wide receiver who doesn't show up and when he shows up he works out with his own trainer he goes to meetings reportedly as texting through the meetings not even fully engaged here and he just got there so he's doing what he already was accused of doing with the steelers making it about himself <hes> the fact that he got suspended and then you go to the raiders no do. I think there'll be other issues because it's in tonio brown. Yes paul in the past fourteen days. Antonio brown has shown up to work in a hot air balloon. He's missed practice because he burned his feet due to frostbite in france and he basically left the team completely early because he couldn't wear the helmet and we're not even a week two of the preseason. He's still awesome it when she liked. It all shuts down but that's what i you want him to be. He's awesome on sunday and i would hope that he would be a better team player because he's he's put up numbers that jerry jerry rice is the only one who comes close to and i would want him to put up these numbers because he is a great story he spectacular but he bought into social. Social media bought into a brand. You know he's become singular and it's hard to do. He's topped with terrel. Owens did like tara loans. All of a sudden seems like a decent team player. I mean like yeah all right. Well terrel. Owens wasn't that bad. He didn't play on a broken can leg in the super bowl. That's true at twitter wasn't around that twitter dealt with that guy yeah but you know these guys love this the it's a chance chance to have your brand in a b. Brand absolutely pull options. What are we we play around with. How about just putting paul paul. How's your family question. I don't care the only but <hes> there is a an interesting pre show discussion well minimum kindness according into the dictionary i think it's i think the definitions is saying hi to someone asking how the family's doing well not really listening briskly walking away that is minimum kindness china's. I like it yeah so that's what we aspire to. There was a big liam neeson debate before the show. You wanna get into comps. I okay brady throughout on twitter liam neeson cop. He was career you would want. I got it. Wait wait wait. I got the actor who we could ask. People would rather leave me since career. This guy wait wait. Wait wait wait. We were just on poll questions. Tonio brown dak prescott and we just took a left turn a hard left turn on the four oh five and now we're with liam neeson's special set of skills here okay yeah. This is based on you the other day seeing the movie no no don't tell me the name because i watched the movie on the plane <music> okay. It's the liam neeson movie where he's a snowplow driver. How early events i have the name when we saw the promo the trailer for that. I go god i gotta watch. I thought it was is funnier. Die liam niessen a snow plow and you know he's. He's the good guy. I don't want to spoil it but seton and i were talking about how movies on a plane are somehow better because you're on a plane and it's because you're held captive and you're just desperate just to get through the flight and you know oh five and a half hours on the flight to come out here and i'm going through movies and i see liam neeson. I don't have to think too much about this. I can just watch. I suspend suspend any any belief in you know just like okay. He's all right. He's driving a snowplow. Just plow your driveway and kill some terrorists now. I don't know what the name of the movie is. I know it's something cold. You're halfway there. Okay cold truth closed the old vengeance closer cold shoulder. No that'd be the then he could okay. What is it cold. Pursue coal pursuit suit the it got decent ratings. It got pretty good reviews. It was not panned okay. You got the ever review for us. Wow the holy plans to up okay todd. Nobody doesn't like liam is it. The best snowplough related movie. You've ever seen has to be has to be topped the cannon i don't know isn't there another snow plow snowplough into beautiful girls that matt dillon and movie grains today plows at great makes thomas sowell of the snowplough trilogy mineta. Hey don't pick on my buddy. See tom the thomas hell yes. I will hunt you down. I will find you and i will plow you. Choose new is given the same lines that he had adding taken and taken to and taken three and and they just incorporated those paulie gee of the description on the liam niece and movie that i watched and i didn't know the name of an <unk> action thriller liam neeson as nels cockman family members thank you yes yes but but you know there's a twist in that last name of cockman and i don't want to give away the movie but i will say that that <hes> that's his last name. He's he's what's his name nells. Cockman family man whose quiet life with laura dern is upended following a mysterious death of their son spoiler. His search for justice turns it a vengeful hunt for viking. This is druglord believes connected the death. Yeah i gotta see this is a little too serious. That sounds really sad yeah but he's he's a better father member in the that movie take like i'd never let liam niessen around my kids because he loses them they they don't they go on vacation asian and then he can't he lost his daughter like how do you have that very specific set of skills but keep losing your kids how to sandals and jamaica and not to a third world the country as well <hes>. I don't want to spoil the ending but <hes> the snow plow plays a large role and the outcome yeah no but yeah of all the great snow plow movies. That's one that's one. That's pretty much. The godfather of snow plow movies hold pursue due to minimum. Will there be a snowplow to. I'm checking but okay. The liam niessen gave us one of the great acting performances in schindler's list then he winning academy award or the movie did. I don't think he won but the movie. I definitely one yeah. He was spectacular in that movie. Although ray finding stole the movie ray finds the german sergeant. I think in there yes for recall wants to tell them. That's where he peaked in. His career was all downhill from well. I would have liam neeson on. What do you remember. He was on e._s._p._n. And any screwed up. I don't remember they asked him about hey. What do you think of the jets this season and it goes the jets. I don't follow american football. They said wait cut that let's start over again and e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. on live t._v. He's not exactly are. I guess that'd be fun if you leave. Niece break down below powell's rushing ability. That's not really what he's is in studio for. I would hope that somebody did some research at the mothership where they'd go. This liam neeson know anything about football. What are what are they gonna do without jericho khatri liam tortuous good. Would you be scared. Liam niessen would like he like that of real life like an action by opie is i hope he comes in as liam niessen or nells coxswain. I hope he drives a snowplow here to our set. It comes blasting through the window. Fritzy not loves to do is go ahead. Give me another liam neeson country down funder will cure you. I would love to do the show dan yes seat. You know who <hes> liam. Neeson's lost the academy award that year. He was nominated okay. Do you wanna guess who he lost to guide. You give me the movies or that. Give it away yeah and what year was a nineteen ninety three to ninety three. Yes some heavy. Hitters nominated guy could actually give you those people okay okay. <hes> daniel day-lewis course natch yeah. You have laurence fishburne. Anthony hopkins liam niessen. Tom hanks okay was hopkins for silence of the lambs. Something called the remains of the day. Never that's a good one lewis him and debra winger <music>. Are you will cry. If you see that moon okay stop larry fishburne was up for robert love got to do with it. Okay <hes> day-lewis look great movie in the name of the father elastic okay yeah and then tom hanks winner for philadelphia not gonna win. That was a big deal. Yeah it was tom hanks was great. The heavier movies yeah well those are heavy hitters but those movies weren't heavy hitters except for philadelphia but liam neeson's schindler's schindler's list schindler's list is pretty heavy yeah but i'm talking about the other movies like anthony hopkins is a great actor but no remains of the day remember member remains in the day. That was a big big movie. No it wasn't like a big baby. It's like a merchant ivory movie yet. It's like british like back when you had those independent emergency stop. You're not you're on strengthening your brand here. That actually is my prayer. Ah by way in the name of the father day lewis he should i hate to he should always wiz he. He's always daniel day lewis except for when he was lincoln but he was still daniel day lewis lincoln so you're saying the guy in the name of the father same guys there will be blood in a way yeah angry yeah well well. I mean you're a thespian both played lincoln both play lincoln. Yeah man i wanted to talk to daniel day lewis about that like like the nuance of playing link. Where does he rank on the guys. Were not getting on the show. He's in the upper upper echelon daniel day-lewis in studio well he. He stopped acting. I don vinnie stop acting he. He was a cobbler. I think he sneaks stopped the cobbler starring liam nation. I'm gonna shoot you that i think he retired after phantom threat which is right there with remains today a movie you guys phantom tim threat painful right. I saw i did not love it. I prefer not to say anything goods. It would damage my brand. Yes full liam neeson. It has another action thriller coming out soon. It's called the minute man. A rancher on the arizona border becomes the unlikely defender of a young boy fleeing drug cartel no snowplows it just breaks. Wow isn't the snowplow movie about a young boy in a drug cartel. So was the one with we're running all night where his son is running from. The drug dealer car was ed harrison harry's. Oh yeah he's got the wonky. I right yep solid yes wonky. I uh-huh that's what the doctor says you gotta wonky optometrist emission by what your stance on crying hang on a plane because i think you're more likely to cry because okay. Let me take yeah. I gotta take a break. I got her play the day clyde kreider movie. I let let me take a break here but seems the one who said you know. Movies on a plane are somehow better than movies in a theater. Sometimes that's how i discovered the greatness that is d._w._p. W._p._a. doubles were delaware's. Devil wears prada. I was on the. I was on a flight out here. I don't know how many years ago and for some reason that's the movie just to watch. This movie is fantastic. Okay we're driving around yesterday. I'm with seton and some great music came on low writer from war and we're just having fun. We're singing and then seat and brings up double wears prada and how he fell in love with it and it was a you know a heartbreaking story of how he found double wears process so good yeah. They're on the plane getting emotional. I get random text. D._w._p.'s on channel five forty two hours. The david did all right. Let me let me take a break here. We got our play of the day coming up. Is it okay to cry on a plane when you're watching a movie. This is the dan patrick show in sports at trade can make make or break your team a good one commu championship but a bad one can set your franchise back for years. It's no different when it comes to selling or trading in your car you need to make choices uses and with truecar you gotta start your roster. 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They're half game back the twins in second place so knocking on on the door there that is our play of the day brought to you by dollar. Shave club products second to none see for yourself just five dollars the ultimate shave starters set basically everything you need need for an amazing shave after that they restocked the box ship regular sized prices and products get yours at dollarshaveclub dot com slash patrick all right <hes> <hes> michael in california joins us good morning michael how are you. I'm greg jarrett by eleven one picky. Eh calling about your crying on wayne two weeks ago. I'm cross country from l._a. To cincinnati and i'm watching i missed it the first time the first star or excuse me the last star wars to come out the very last one music comes up talking takes off there on the planet trying to get blown up by the big cannon. I'm bawling my eyes out emerald twenty two. It gives me a seat. Did anybody notice michael. No thankfully it was a it's pretty quiet. Fly there the light them i was. I was able to keep it to myself. Oh all right well. Thank you thank you for your honesty. Anybody yes make the air. The pressure and something about planes makes you more emotional. I've heard that i don't know if you wait. Wait wait wait. Wait so the the cabin pressure mcadam pressuring back with your brain because i was i was crying at the end of his am about three days ago and by the way i don't regret it was a very good movie and there's very touch sam. I always think of shock when i think of shoes downs his am. It's actually an old d. c. comic and they made a like a low budget like action hero movie. It's actually really really good. It shows him zachary levi. I don't know <hes> anybody else but it's good. It made a lot of money but <hes> i also saw the movie the lion last year on the way to l._a. Where you remember that movie where the kids trying to find his family in india on a boat yeah lyons with him on the boat no no that's why he's on a train and he loses his family and the whole movies about him. I think okay yeah. I think he shot we talked about. I saw it on a train on a plane. I was is openly crying and everybody was watch it. Is that okay you've done that. I know you. I don't know i mean i cried everything but i don't know if i i've cried on a plane outta here. I really don't think so just on our way out here. One i enjoyed creed to way more than normally would've cry at creepy at the the end of it. I did start to like get choked up and i had to say to myself like like dude. You gotta be kidding me. Stop or get a hold of yourself because i started to get choked up yeah. It's todd how you know so much about apollo. I'm a son hypothetically creed movement. Thank you welcome all right. Let's use his aim. Was jamie foxx game. Show you love so much. Is that the name of that show beach them. Oh yeah think it's beat beaches yeah i. I actually started the other night. Thanks to your when you said about just to see how horrible that is well. I'm glad you gave my opinion about jochen. M there. Yeah i remember you what you said about cross jamie foxx off our guests with fox's and joining us anytime soon you did love allen's game a game link calendar game a game me too luke. I'm entertained by ellen. I think she's got a great personality game night dean lynch throw that in there i haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I think i was invited to be on it really really yeah we do that. Place your rates with like you know from the level of celebrity they have. I don't know what just happened is first hour but you can't get your money's back money back here. <hes> doug gottlieb will join us in in studio minimum kindness. It's minimum kindness day here. Dan patrick show. We'll get phone calls. 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Farmers insurance as we know there's a crucial difference between kick drum pedal and your car's accelerator pedal because we covered it click for more honors a hello. My farmer's truck insurance exchange and affiliates products not available in every state joined by the ford. Dan at a lot of guys are not gonna make it to final. It's dan patrick actress our two on this tuesday dan and the danettes dan patrick shell. I hope you're on board for the first hour this program. I have no idea did we talk sports. I i think we did a little bit with dak prescott and antonio brown we talked about in great liam neeson movies of course because who wouldn't i saw the snowplow snowplough movie with liam nason. I call it the snowplow movie. I don't know it's called cold pursuit with liam nielsen and he was in a snow plow and i went okay of all the great snowplough movies. That's up there one of the great ones of all time i mentioned <hes> dak prescott and i've had a source telling me this. It's morning that he believes that the cowboys leak the information to make doc look greedy agent embarrasses agent <hes> forty million. Maybe turned turn down thirty and maybe a settled for thirty four million dollars. My sole source told me that he has through channels advised dak prescott ascott bet on yourself to your deal sixty. Three million dollars guaranteed that way. You get your money. It's guaranteed. It's two more years great h chance at a super bowl the next two years and then you'll hit the market again with the new t._v. Contract and you could make even more money <hes> that this person said that <hes> <hes> thought that that's where russell wilson was going to go with his contract and seattle bet on himself for two years and then hit the mark at one more time but <hes> the way it is now on the outside looking in with dak prescott more cooper's yukio elliott and how do you wrap them all up. And how much is it going to cost. You guaranteed money. Also antonio brown is going when you show up for the raiders camp today. I don't know what kind of conditions in as far as his feet and i know that he wasn't going to retire. Although i did talk to somebody earlier today i was busy earlier today and he said that he really thought antonio brown was serious about retiring on friday really thought you you know he said he came to his senses but you know he he gets into this this world his own little world and thought there's a real chance that he would walk away from this. He's an emotional guy and he wanted to have his helmet. You know these guys are putting performance. Overprotection brady said look. I don't like the home if it's it's all about the creatures have it in what they wear and how they wear it and and it's being comfortable in the moment with what you do and antonio brown round said he didn't like the new helmet and it restricted his vision and of course that's everything for a wide receiver but that's sort of where we are and then. I just saw all this news. I love the colts this year. My biggest concern is andrew luck and there's reason to continue to have that concern because the colts also announced july twenty ninth luck was going to stop practicing until he felt his calf was one hundred percent healthy well here we are. He is not practicing another week. Not practicing the colts have today off. They have two days of joint practices with the browns. Wednesday and thursday luck has been participating dissipation in walk throughs. He's working with his throwing coach. The former pitcher tom house he will not be practicing. He suffered this calf injury in late april. I wonder if he's gonna play week. One as the chargers host the colts. Do you have the jimmer say comments on this year. The colts owner was on sirius x._m. N._f._l. radio and said that looks injury is actually ah bone. <hes> he the quotas. It's in another area. It's a bone you know what i'm not good at these things. It's a small little bone and that's the first time it had been referenced publicly that it's separate britt from the achilles injury. There's a bone lower leg bone injury that luck is out for yeah and there's more to this story because keep in mind member when jimmer you say got out in front of the andrew luck and shoulder issue and he'll be back and he'll be ready for the start of the season and then midseason and then maybe not at all and here we are again it you know not the teams are going to give you full disclosure here but i never felt like i was getting full disclosure here with andrew luck with this calf injury yeah mclovin man. I'm thinking about how many people are looking at the super bowl darkhorse. You just can't do it. Can you know no not right now. Yeah paulie and lock had his best year last year thirty nine touchdowns fifteen picks forty six hundred yards and sixty seven point three percent passer for a guy who's a career sixty percent passing. Yeah i just there's there's something else attached to this last year we we weren't sure if he was going to be ready to go and he started. It all came together at the end and he got out. There was awesome so maybe this is his shoulder older. Though right like i was shoulder last year member he was thrown little nurse foot could throw a regular football and it was just you know with no zip on it and that's why i look at cam newton this year. This isn't a foregone conclusion that oh he's a young athlete great athlete and you'll be able to come back from shoulder surgery. It is so tricky with that injury and we saw that with andrew la. These are the finest doctors you can find. They haven't perfected affected surgery on your shoulder. Take it from me. Having put it off for thirty five years with a torn labrum i wanted to do is lift my arm over my head and even after what they call successful surgery. I still have a hard time. Doing it and i'm just trying to have normal routine quality life life. These guys are throwing the football under duress fifty yards yom mclovin that's shape at the panthers and cam newton because they feel a little stack this year. They have a lot of talent around him. Finally bakes sorta got the team the offense people love mccaffrey. I mean they're talking about an m._v._p. Candidate why wouldn't you jay more like curtis samuel. They have a lot of weapons for him. That'd be a shame. I think it'd be sad if he wasn't never got back to himself well but you're also looking at an offense where they now dump it off because cam was a guy who was completing. You know mid fifties upper fifty percent of his passes because he was throwing deeper balls. They started to adapt the patriots style of offense where he's utilizing is <hes> running backs wide receivers and he's going to need that with coming back from his shoulder. You know i have a big question with him being able to do this and andrew luck if the shoulder is fine but this is just a calf injury you never talk about. It's a serious calf injury. You know kevin durant. They said it's a calf injury. I thought it was an achilles right away and they were saying no a calf injury you know with andrew luck and a calf injury and he's an athletic quarterback and he utilized and you know he needs his legs now he uses though he's not just a stand in the pocket yummy club. We haven't even talked about it. I don't think we've talked on this. Show about the drew brees story. We were talking about before the show to you know he's the guy who had shoulder way in the past but looked like he was losing tomorrow strength. That's a year went along well. There was a headline and i don't know if the headline represented presented the article but is it bill barnwell bill barham for e._s._p._n. Dot com has the inevitable drew brees decline. Already begun was the headline on the story. Okay and you know this was well researched. The only thing i didn't like at the very end it was basically hey. He could get benched this year or or he could be the m._v._p. Everything else that was leading to this at the end it and they could still be a super bowl contender so drew breeze. I thought there was something about him. Maybe from week eleven on where i just didn't see the crispness that you saw with him and he was having an had a great year but had an unbelievable first half of the season. One of the great first half's that we've seen in a long long time. He's completing over seventy percent of his passes. He lost a little bit zip. Did he just gets hired. Was it a combination of things. I'm assuming all quarterbacks get tired at the end of the season. Patrick mahomes fell off a little bit at the end of the season the defenses who adjusted to him you lose your left tackle in new orleans how big a role was that. Withdrew breeze drew brees wasn't as threatening and is there an inevitable falling off here. Yes absolutely at his age and you start to look at that. We keep waiting for brady to show signs of that. I really think think bill belichick has modified his offense to ensure that brady when he starts to show decline. It's not as obvious. I thought the saints with drew brees. He's it was a little more obvious that there was a decline there in the second half of last season you can watch brady and then you see him in the super bowl any looks like hey. This isn't a big deal. His performance level yeah pulling the barner. Article goes really deep dive on the first half a pre season where he just lights out he was an m._v._p. Candidate one or two then he calls it off. The one thing that's never brought up is that there's any health issues or injury issues they compared to peyton manning and others who had a drop off but there is usually mitigating factor of an an injury and he says drew brees could've just had a series of average games to end the season. There may not be a reason. There might not be a health fall off our age follow well. I think there has to be a little bit of that. There were signs of decline in the game against the rams i just i don't know there was something about drew brees that i didn't look at him as that guy who's gonna lead you down and win a game. Should they have gone to the super bowl should that if that calls made correctly yeah but their defense didn't hold up and brees threw an interception there and overtime i'm so do i think there's going to be a fall off. Yes is it dramatic as it cliff no. I don't think so but we're getting close there just because you have to do the math here with the ages and i know brady wants to play forty five but he is taken care of himself to play to forty five brett farve didn't take care of himself kenny any stabler and you know. Jim kelly like these guys later in their careers. They weren't doing brady's. Doing i mean brady created something different. You know he created aided. His own workout regimen his own diet. You know he is the he's the walking talking throwing experiment and these other quarterbacks. I don't i think they were putting in as much time as brady is and breezes a workout freak is well. It's it's remarkable what he's doing as well philip rivers rivers philip rivers takes care of himself. He's not a guy who's out not me. He's chasing his kids now. He's not chasing anything else. Yes mclovin is it also also the game is show mental now at grady season defense knows where he's going so i think the brain is the key thing yeah but then again you you know. How long do you wanna play like. Don't you need to have that joy to play. You've talked about that with broadcasters. You need that enthusiasm is that brady but brady and brees love it like they eat needed up. They need it so. I don't think that that's an issue yeah. I have a patriots theory that over the past two years they've changed their draft strategy to. I don't know if it's protect or or help. Brady they would never take a running back in the first round but then they do last year a sony michelle and then they usually wouldn't take a wide receiver in the first round and they took nikiel harry out of a._s._u. And i think that they're thinking okay. We have quarterback that might decline. Let's give him a little bit more to work with and we have in the past because it can't be all him and we always marveled at brady does as much with less than any other quarterback because when you look at their wide receiver settlements never been an all pro running back by committee you know sony michelle is a big time talent and harry's a big time talent and that's that's the future here. That's the next stage for the patriots. Is you got a great running back and potentially actually a very good wide receiver. What's the poll question mclovin about sorry. It was the topic of last hour. Whose career would you want liam niessen or paul giamati the wait wait who put that up. I did god that's a great point where never talking about paul giamati. I know but i couldn't figure out who's who's a guy who's right right there with liam neeson and i said to myself paul giamati got sideways you know he was villemin billions billions. He's a critically critically acclaimed actor but he doesn't carry a movie like liam neeson's but he gets the cream. He's a critical darling so the question is would you rather be able to kill a lot of drug cartel guys movie. We can get a golden globe for movie like sideways man. I wish i actually thought of the late phillips he will often but he was such a great great actor. I feel like you take him but he wasn't an action star right so yeah. That's question would rather be okay. The fact that liam neeson could give you schindler's list and an he could give you taken. I was kind of taking schindler's list out of this new action hero he's liam neeson but but he's more of an action hero now though i don't think of him is chillers us he how many how many critical movies has been in like schindler's list and he was really good tonight actually but i would rather because love actually a good movie love actually put schindler's list and love actually the same. What do we what what happened today. Happiness pretend you love actually and that john. I don't even know who's in love actually laura linney. I need need more than that. It's a british hugh. Grant plays out hugh grant plays hugh grant okay. What a shocker care neilly. I'll keira knightley with that same look on her like she's british movies. I should go after remains the day which confused with the movie shadowlands but no big deal now. You're not into love actually gosh you've changed. I just not a big hugh. Grant fan you grant had it has an actor today and this just shows up and says the lines cleanly and with a quirky little tone. He's got an accident. That's it. I seemed like a great guy and some guy probably fun to go out to a public rate hair. Yeah dated liz hurley. No i mean there's a lot of things that that's where we've got the guy peach right now michaela. Would you rather have me do the lease and paul giamati paul or do another cowboys paul because that's mike how many cowboys polls the dak prescott. I'm not sure how many polls we could do this. What's the question. Dak prescott did send me this with potential potential poll questions. Whose acting career would you want. Liam neeson or paul jimani. Yes liam neeson has hit that sort of robert deniro part of his career rare where you're like. Why is he easy here. Robert de niro doesn't say no to anything right now and you're like why isn't that movie. Bob jeez robert deniro golden and our golden road shoot later today. He's going down to the brewery with you. Guys shoot a promo. Get a beer. Get it get up here. Get a bit get a beer c. n. N.'s got a problem with bob de niro just he repeats his lines like venero says the line twice in every movie he just keeps repeating the same he has one one scene in it where he just repeats the same line over and over kindness minimum kindness subminimum is kind of talking to me actually do that's the only at the end of goodell's carrying the right down there right down there. It puts the glasses on the end of what he's trying to make the dresses. Were sitting right down there if you'd like to get in touch with this program. I don't know why you would eight seven seven three d._p. Show email address dp dan patrick duck twitter d._p. Show say good morning to our radio and t._v. Partners historic t._v. The audience that work that's channel thirty nine b our live dot com as we're broadcasting from murchison's studio this week riches on vacation kind enough to let us crash here at his crib. We we appreciate that rich all right. We'll have a poll question. I think <hes> doug gottlieb is gonna stop by and next our sean salisbury friend of the show yes mclovin. Did you like by doug godly paul. Would you rather lead the nation in assists or rebounds. That was the doug gottlieb special <hes> okay. You want assist that means. You're gonna put on a show. I don't care about rebound lot doug. I'm sure led the nation decisions whether the all time leader. I think he did two years. Was it oklahoma state. I think back to back eight and a half nine assists a game but that means you're controlling the game. If you're the leader you're dan. You're a shooter. You wanna jato important shooting the lead the sharing that i don't know <hes> kevin in indianapolis joins us hey kevin. What do you have for me today. Hey dan six the three trimmed down to ten. I have an idea that was applicable until liam. Neeson's skillset derail the show <hes> i think the n._f._l. P._a. needs to start pushing this huge day and that is two years average ages of longevity. It's a structure contracts that way running back can get two or three contracts quarterbacks get two or three times throughout their lifetime and it evens it out and make it's a little bit fair in the event that this actually runs its way up to totem pole. All i would require for my intellectual. Property uses a measly tenth of a percent of all contracts linux the n._f._l. Thing well. They're never going to give that to you kevin but i like it. I liked <hes> where you're thinking. Roger gets on a podium kevin in tulsa really it helped us out but i still think that dak prescott should bet on himself. If i said to you two years sixty three million dollars i guaranteed for dak prescott. Do you turn that down so you're gonna make you know thirty one thirty two million dollars a year. It's guaranteed new t._v. T._v. Deal takes place in twenty twenty. Then all of a sudden you hit the market again and then you get your five year deal. If you want to or you bet on yourself again for two two years that would be the approach i would have. My source said he thought that russell wilson was going to do that. In seattle it made sense to do two years and then maybe your future is elsewhere but you hit the market one more time and i think that makes a lot of sense janklow if he did end up even getting hurt in his career for sixty. Three's not a terrible cushion right. I mean that's that's a nice chunk. I don't know how much more cushion yeah so. I would totally do that deal if they if they call me and say well. Let's give you two years sixty three yeah but that's why i'm saying if i'm fine dak prescott this is it. I want to years betting on myself here so in two years mike are you going to see fifty million for a quarterback while what's mahomes worth. If tacna dacca's asking for forty years agent is and you know the cowboys from what i'm told leak this this. He's not getting forty but if you're mahomes what is mahomes get does he get five years two two hundred fifty million dollars. I mean whatever the max is. Mahomes is probably going to get that and plus. You know that'd be would mahomes bet on himself yourself and go two years and then hit the marketplace again. I would have more of a n._b._a. Logic to my contract than what they have because the players always it's rare when they go to free agency because they'll they'll sign that extension with the team and i think if you bet on yourself you you get guarantees and you control the marketplace. I think that would be the way to go twenty after the hour. Doug gottlieb will join us here in the man cave coming up mclovin wants to shoot shoot free throws against the godly and you talk trash talk to pretty good game i our mclovin gottlieb showed up and said all right. Let's go identify. Shoot free throws not three-pointers three-pointers because he put on a display last time he was a godly can shoot. He got into his head psychologically. When you're there at the free throw line. That's a a couple of decades ago for god so we do a contest five three for me and for him. Who do you think wins. How about we do ten. Each okay loser has to go into the fountain. That's okay you knew. This is coming up later in the week. No you could go at the end of the show. Oh boy before friday. Okay all right. I gotta check with gottlieb if he loses a free. Throw shooting contest to you then he's got to go into the show is when all the big management is walking by the way to do it now all right. Let's take a break here. Doug gottlieb will join us next and <hes> mclovin will shoot free throws with doug as well twenty two after the hour dan a._m. Patrick show okay. This is just a thirty second commercial and i'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you please please stay with me. 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We love armoire insurance exchanges and affiliates products available in every state during the live look in you can see on direct t._v. Audience number channel to thirty-nine v._r. Live dot com the godly former college basketball player we have we brought got a basketball hoop over here and mclovin went out there as well mclovin played junior varsity at dartmouth and <hes> doug of course one of the all time leading assist man in college basketball history history had some issues from the free throw line when he played but he's rectified those he's got a great shot. Looks good looks comfortable. Mclovin and dougie fresh are gonna shoot free throws shoot ten free throws and lose her has to go into the fountain here direct t._v. So <hes> doug good to see you good to see you as well. I see you bring the camera indoor your stadium rims as well. Those are some lose very very very very badly. I you know i was always wondering about that. When you go into a building and there's certain places where the rim is tight or the you know the background is different but when you did you ever go into a place and just say i'm not going to have a good night because because the background or the aesthetics or the rim every night i was. I was actually very good shooter that just you know you get in your bonehead. Notice becomes like stage fright became like rondo before rondo you know or you could just find a way to play without a jump shot. <hes> did you see a therapist i did. I did like a sports psychologist. I should've gone done therapy. I mean i think it would have really helped you get like now. I do therapy and like i'd like yoga like why didn't they do this. You know but nowadays you could do it and nobody would give you grief or make fun of you know back then. It's like oh my god. He's seeing a therapist now yeah. I have a fr- friend jake rush back. Who's is sports. He does sport psychology doesn't think tapping whenever there's that athletes do in order to kind release your your brain from things that hold you back but anyway to answer your question. Yeah i mean there are different types of you know like if the further back the background is the lower the hoop looks you know the closer. It is like you know if you go ever go and high school gym. There's a wall behind it. The hoops sometimes looks like it's ten and a half feet high and they're all about ten feet. I you know what you think. Lonzo ball and more careful vets now more mental salsas physicality lonzo's healthy though i think lonzo be okay okay. I don't think lonzo free throw line. There's an issue there. I think marquel foltz how'd you shoot. Forty-one percent from the line was a good question. You're asking the right guy actually saturday lonzo ball barely and that's nothing to brag about right like but how eighty percent free throw shooter highschool high school he's just hold the ball and get fouled and then make three thousand one game right yeah and then you you just get to you get i. There was no like traumatic. It was traumatic moment so but my first year notre dame. We're playing rutgers. The first ever big east game for both teams were up seventeen the second half they make a comeback. I get fouled a airball. The first free throw. I make the second so we end up losing the game and the next day <hes> the late giannakou passed away early this year he. He has his secretary leaving message. Come down to his office because that's how he would talk to you so we go and i sit down you know in his office and he's got the game on and i thought we're going to you work on like our zone offense. They went zone and we screwed up and some defensive breakdowns. He starts to look at the free. Thirdly what happened here. I was like a scenario ball coach. He's like i was like i made the next one so we went out and he starts heat. He called denny price. Marking <hes> brent prices. Dad ed was his old assistant in oklahoma and i john okada never played basketball and he's sitting there and got my left hand in foul no but it was more than that like i could actually feel feel it coming before that i just had an era bowl from the line before no no but i had plenty of after that yeah and then you know i i got in trouble. I sat out round here. I went to oklahoma state and i felt like i was better than i get at the free throw line at times and then it would just go like your legs ago. You just feel like numb uh-huh so it's definitely a mental thing for most people i think marquel foltz. He's basically got what i have only now even worse because now he's got a hitch now. There's the hitch and there's a lack of belief and i thought they made a mistake. Last year. Drew hamlin's a great trainer but he is not he does not understand you have to have somebody who understands the mental aspects of what he's going through and hiding him out in a gym and saying he's cured that ain't gonna work but how does lonzo ball with a hands on dad dad you would think he might part of it. I had a hands on dad but if you know the other other brothers can shoot. They have a better looking shot than launch. Yes yes so. How do you get to the point where you're starting point guard then i do like him. I just i saw where he would come down. The defence is basically saying go ahead. Well look he's. I think he's going to become a solid open three point shooter but the mental aspects of the free throw like that changes everything right you drive in there. You don't want to get out and he's a spectacular freak athlete. You don't want to get out and you have to give out at the end of the game. It hurts your average is in her to create assists. He's already not a great finisher like all of these things. He has to solve the free. Throw thing and i think i and as much as the funky notice of it hurts them in game action. That doesn't hurt the release is fine. He can make free throws the way he shooting the basketball. It's completely from the neck up and you gotta get somebody who knows how to deep dive in there and an understands how to fix that the n._c._a._a. A rule here with rich weather calling it the rich paul rule the rich paul will lebron james held the bridge pole yeah and then they backtracked a little bit yeah. If you really care about the kids in your altruistic and you believe in it then why are you backing up but you know with this that say honestly scared of backlash is social media because on because if you look at what they've done all they've said is okay. We're gonna adapt the n._b._a. To be agent you have to have a degree or all you have to have some sort of special circumstances and apply to be an n._b._a. Agent in spite of the fact so really they grandfathered in rich paul. It's it's corporate america being very very scared of of social media. That's really what it is. Because there's i actually wa- while rich paul made a good point in his is op ed piece piece that you know it doesn't mean you're not a con man just because you have a degree like look all we're trying to do is protect these players to get the best possible advice not advice from their uncle or their answer their cousin or their a you coach somebody who's legit and reputable okay but create the perfect system here for these kids if they they want and we're talking about not the top guys coming out. You want to protect the kids who aren't getting great advice. You want to test the draft waters right so how'd you by the way our guys that rich paul doesn't represent. Thanks so it's not really the rich paul exactly the christian doctrines rule christian doctrines was a guy wanted to be an agent was a runner and they just want to try and they just want to protect those guys away. Hey from the players. That's like the best that they can do but they're still going to be there. Of course there's still there's still going to be there but are they gonna be acting as if they're an agent because in in and the way it works now you can actually agree to terms with an agent and that person can advise you and those people specifically n._c. Is just trying to protect the play. It's it's it's. It's not a great system. Why can't i draft whenever i want to draft. You and you play for me. Whenever you want to play for me. I love that. I love that idea. You know there is there there's problems with are you play a really you know you play <hes> duke north carolina on a tuesday night and then. I want you to play though next week for the charlotte hornets. It's like i'm call you up. You become official leagues. How you wanted to know once you are drafted. Let's say you're a high school player. I draft you and you decide. If you wanna go play for me or you want to go to college for a year and then you go for a year at work on your game and then you come out and then you're going to play for my team. You're not playing for north carolina one night and then charlotte the next tonight when you're done with your college career yeah then i heard island rights rights yeah i mean we do it in all the other sports where we're able to draft aren't we. We we do now and baseball once you go back in. You can't see you the e. They lose your rights right once you play for university. They lose your rights until the next time they they can draft you. That's like the larry bird had that he came out. He was drafted got to go back to indiana state. I don't have any problem with that. I think the n._c._a._a. And the n._b._a. Need work together because the idea of opening up for high school kids a bad idea makes league worst makes the product worse. I think college is a great place in college somewhere that you should welcome. More people not less because it provides more than just like the education. It's the whole lifestyle and something to fall back on family basketball family all the things. You don't have as a pro athlete when it's done. The athlete is done in college when you're done. You know there's place in administration. There's jobs you can get i. I'm a big college sport guys you you know but i i'm with you. I don't think it should be anything wrong with a guy you know plays for u._c._l._a. and they can go train and work out with the clippers in the off season. There's it's no reason you can't you shouldn't be able to do so in terms of owning your rights. I think that's that's probably a hard sell considering the basketball idea you play really well and then are you gonna shut it down for the rest of the year. Oh my ankle hurts. If you just moved here. Would you become a laker fan or clipper fan. I just moved here so you have no loyalty no allegiance. That's a that's a great question. <hes> probably a clipper fan. You mean like look there. They check all the boxes for what you'd wanna have at a team right where they're like legit excited at the opportunity of the future. There's no over those expectations. There's not arrogance with those expectations. Get champion coach got championship <hes> figurehead in the front office. You have an owner who just willing underspend wants to create his own entertainment complex. You have great energy with how they play. The other side to it is having grown up here like the idea that the clippers and lakers are on par. It's so hard to so hard to fathom it. Just is the when i was in high school. They had the l._a. Riots so people forget when larry brown's team made the n._b._a. Playoffs they had to play in anaheim because the sports arena was in the middle of a war zone. You know like you couldn't there was no clipper fans. Now we grew up a clipper fan. You go covering him because it was less expensive and now the clippers clippers have a legit shot. I still like what the lakers have done. <hes> who's better this year. I think the lakers are still probably due to they've guys that have done it. I know hawaii has done it but paul george never seemingly healthy and all these other guys are they're great first and second round dudes. I want guys hasn't done it. When it matters i do lakers more those guys yeah and i wonder when this becomes the davis is t. b. Because at some point lebron has to realize this and i wonder if is he the last guy to realize that this isn't his team anymore on the court so anthem. It's now anthony davis's team. He's supposedly sold kawhi leonard and he sold anthony davis on this is going to be their team right mclovin in six months ago. It's going to become mclovin. Shell right and we understand that it hasn't yet evolved into that. Where's make love. He went and back. He said to stretch get his gear on a warm up. He's outside of this free. Throw shooting. He's taking advantage of doug being here. Oh wow he's really good. He's really he's he's he. He knows that he talked <hes> some trash about you in the first hour he did. I i would i would say this. I think like the big unknown is lebron and what he's is going to be like. He did not move the same last year. He was out of shape. I thought yet what is lost a bunch of weight. This offset looks good. He looks you at but he's he's lost weight in off off seasons in the past so carmelo did this for years where they they super trimmed down and then they get n._b._a. Lifestyle they that they're not they're just i. I wonder how he moves thirty five years old. No one moves the same and and a lot of miles on he's not a regular thirty five year old right they have good defenders around so suddenly you're hiding hiding lebron little bit defensively and how do you play around him offense and then the style that he plays words a lot isolation's and create and help. That's not really. It's not really how anybody anybody plays now in the n._b._a. Even james harden were they do isolate. They run a ball screen to get the right switch like it's not really how they play so i'm interested and then you have frank. Vogel is ever coached him. I never wanted championship. There's a bunch of different reasons to not totally go all in on the lakers. Who's got more pressure. Lebron kawai frank vogel frank vogel frank vogel. Is he coaching after next season the lakers. Yes yes really i just. I don't think that the idea of you brought in jason kidd. I think jason kidd or get a job. I don't think it'd be with the lakers. Oh you don't think you'll be the next head coach of the lakers. Maybe but now i i just don't you're not gonna have three head coaches in three years. I don't think so i could be wrong. I reserve the right to be wrong. I mean they brought in david blatt and cleveland and my thought frank was a great hire for them given what was going on. I didn't need to add to the fire. I didn't i needed somebody who is just a little more stable able not saying anything incendiary. I just wanted. I wanted it to be home occasionally jason kidd. I don't think brings calmness to ooh that situation yes. He was the head coach. A grid issues that catch but in in the role that he's in what is that role though conduit conduit. You know i've been a head coach. I've been a superstar player and because the one thing frank has not really coached is a star a superstar right paul george but he was not he knows when he was done he was he was indiana. Paul george paul george and even even now paul george's not a tough guy to coach like lebron challenge. He's like that's really what the david griffin article said was. He's got a pain in the ass right but i mean super super talented and everybody wants to take a shot at winning the title with them but it's it's not easy. It's not easy for anybody and i think that the idea of of jason kidd having been a great player having been a head coach. I think that's the idea of the role all the conduit to all those pieces by the way if you missed any of our interviews from the mercedes a._m._c. man cave go to the dan patrick show app where you can watch and listen from inside mercedes a._m. G. man cave mercedes' stayed a._m. G driving performance. We'll take a break if you're watching on t._v. Audience summer channel two thirty nine or live dot com. It's the showdown. This is what people came soon and it's mclovin is out there you can see mclovin shooting jase close and he did he got into basketball gear and he's at the line and and those are back to back makes their with mclovin <hes> the bet is ten free throws for oil chen free throws and the loser goes into the fountain fountain here at a._t. And t. yes. I got pie in the face towns. You have video of getting a pilot shortage a few times yeah. I remember that one who would offer this one dan. I'm gonna go doug. Doug has a clutch team when he hit that three in houston. Get one chance for the first the shoddy shit but you got a great looking shot. He's got nice follow-through nicer. I mean he looks great but you know what when the games on the line. When there's inherited got with the pie oh boy i was so proud of that moment the very good that was a very good set had to give the pie to somebody in the crowd and put it behind your back. 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Did kinda sure i'm giving a good follow through three korea mclovin fiery now four make lovin j._v. uh this is so nerve wracking by five wow that is just not good. Here's doug two for five here three for six percent. It's all going to come down to love is ability to eight eight closer deal six for nine. You need one dog god at seven down mick. Lovin four listen coffee's for closers. Always <music> always four win win. The three wins andrew. Thank three rings hit. The second one seven can't miss seven one more way that goes over a lot of people shooting free through susan okay elite mclovin just this on purpose wow. That's really kind of old humiliated. Wait wait. Wait wait wait. We understand without mixed okay. You have to laugh off now. Yeah we have a it's. It's a suit off. We've got woman sudden-death doug you go. I i one doug mill doggie in doc. Y'all got the baptism all here. I could off your microphone. You go well done. Well done man the kids. He choked blacked out. 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COLD PURSUIT - Double Toasted Audio Review

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COLD PURSUIT - Double Toasted Audio Review

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I think I'll just doing as a challenge. Now the Liam. The challenge. Take me a niece this shit when I get you as a child. So far, nobody has has one. Well, wolf one. I think so not I am. Liam these and had them a little Tabasco. I think if you if you know the last frame that willfully shit. Now, somebody took a snowplow he may. They killed the son. But he but that Plowman middle lot to him. And you know, what normally people would root for leeann Niessen, but people ain't happy with Mr. Nissan. These days Lee, you know, it was it was bad that he was he was making taking over and over and over again taking on the plane taking on a train, and then people find out that trading taken was might have been a true story. The most racist. Berge taking up. Taking taking the prequel wears that black past. Oh, you know, she got to read. You things turn ugly. Man. If anyone could use a good movie right now, it could be leeann Diesen, and we're going to see this film is actually that good movie Liam Niessen need so much and. You know, it's it looks like it's a uphill battle already because. This is it does look like another. It's like let me say taking what a what a snowplough in snow, and look we can't blame anybody. But thinking that let's go and take a look at the trailer. One more time, he will find something new, and we'll tell you if this is actually maybe a new decent version of taking who knows could be something different. This time. I'm very honored to be named kilos citizen of the year. I'm just a guy keeps stripper supplementation open. When you drive the team role day after day easy to think about the role. Now, take I was lucky picked a good role in early. Kochman? I do for your son is about your name. Fun really could change that. You know? I think my name is. Yes. Cockman yet. Died of heroin overdose. Kyle was my sorry. Parents pay a few words. Cow's, deb. Tell me what happened mixed up with Trump deal. I like certain people with with all these nicknames Speedo Viking eskimo. It's a gangster do nickname wing, man. Matt. One guy could disappear. To who wants me dead three grandkids drug dealers disappeared. What makes you thank you? Crime novel. Cowbell Clark with. No way, man. This doesn't happen in Kiel dead. Now's Cockman citizen of the year. Good for him. All right. Let me start out by saying that I don't I'm not wanna turn away business. All right. What we we do depends on audience views about years all that kind of stuff. But if you plan on seeing this film anytime in the near future, don't watch don't listen to this review get outta here. Just goes somewhere do some males. Come back about twenty minutes, or whatever. Because believe me it not no pun intended. Right. No. Actually, you're going to blame me for it. Anyway. So yes, it is is better going cold toes. See that's why they wanna do not doubt about it said that there was no other way to say no other way to do it, man. Thank thank you serenity. Thank you. There was no other. That was no other way that I thought about like, you know, now look at you like shit. Oh, man. I'm not gonna jump on you. Really wasn't trying to make. The way. I mean, it happens that way sometimes there's just no other way to do a man Greg go in without knowing anything about this. And believe me, you need the reaction that you that you get thinking that you're going to see a taken fill that sounds so go please go in Galway. Did he leave? No fuck out here. Okay. Trying to help you trying to help you. All right. Good. Because I you know, I. I'm sorry that I went in. But the things that I that. I know I'm I wish I had gone in here to treat in my mind. I was prejudiced with this in my mind. I was like good another get Dan taking rip off. I'm in town mangle do this movie. I don't care if you in the snow doing it this time, it's the same thing. And. And as I say watching this trailer. It it really is like I said early read it doesn't like taking on a snowplow taking in the snow taken in the Arctic, whatever they wherever they are, which I know the, but you don't know whether the trailer it's not that, you know. It's funny is when when we you lash the trailer, we talk about the whole Liam Neeson thing. And when they brought up those ridiculous nicknames. Those are kind of laugh at and heard him mention about being darkened comedic. And that's what made me go see like, you know, what I think despite this marketing, I think this is a dark comedy. I want to check it out. Yeah. And you know what? And no one can blame you for going in thinking that. You really some of you already. You've already seen some interviews and some probably reviews of this where they described it. But you really the the less, you know, the more you need to have a natural natural yet. A naturally action to just the weirdness that this movie takes on certain points. And no one can blame you. I don't even blame myself as much as I was being prejudiced about this film. No, one can blame you for going in thinking that this is going to be another taken film. I would even say that early on the movie woodland, but very microscopic exceptions it plays out like a taken fair. Really does. He goes into key goes places. Listen, you know, how it is? Somebody does something here. He tracks down the bad guys. Bad guys looking him, even when he's bigger than them. They got shit to say. He says don't talk shit to me beat the fuck out. Usually ends but death, and he goes on to the next person to rinse and repeat starts out like that very early in this movie, Dante. Hello. Do. He worked at the keyhole airport of myself. Kyle. You know, I'm too. What happened? Ops. There's door. All right now. I don't know what you call it out. But I think it's time you crawled back in. Interest me, that's your best. Don't you ever tell you as back only? You stupid. Don't you ever turn your back on Lee and niece and man without threaten anybody? And then just turn your back on. Yeah. Don't exactly I don't care if you've got a gun in your hand. Right. Do know that don't especially when somebody got this look on their face. Don't turn your back on their man. That's about don't give a fuck about that gun that you got. Yeah. You know? At after that as from Lamar taken from after that ass-whipping right there. It's a that's what we end taken Ville. And that's what ten minutes into the move. That's ten minutes into the movie, we all different city after that. Because after that, it's funny because Liam Niessen he gets pushed out the movie. Yeah. Yeah. All these characters start coming in you you because you know, if you look at the at the trailer, you see you see a lot of besides lean niece. We see a lot of people. You know, the you got to cops that that come in that kind of like different Fargo. You got a, you know, you get all these gangsters with funny names with their own subplots in all cracking jokes in the funny like taking two in three were unintentional comedies. It's almost like this movie just embraced itself. As another taken version of says, you know, what this ridiculous. Let's make it funny. And actually try to be smart about it again. Yeah. Yeah. And and yeah, you mentioned the two cops. That thing is yet. This movie is a lot more like Fargo than it is taken. It's only that beginning. But it said. That's a crime thriller in the north that darkly comedic. I mean, it's really black comedy. And it's up on you. Because at first stuff is just happening. That's that seems like plot holes are kind of ridiculous. And then you like, wait a minute. Yeah. That's this will be has been too smart to do something this ridiculous unless it's on purpose. Exactly. No. It takes you to kind of go like hold on. Yeah. This is. All right. They know what they're doing here. Well, the funniest part of it is the funniest thing is the funniest character in here, which is the the main villain, Tom Bateman as biking this in any other movie and any other taking movie like you, don't see you. Don't see the main villain until the end of the move. He's used the head mob guy the head honcho the last Boston video game. He's the one that talks the most shit and give Lee and niece in the most challenge. Right, right. This do of push his pushes Liam Neeson out of his own. Movie. And he is he's hilarious, man. He's slimy. In the most entertaining way, Tom Bateman is a British actor, actually. But you got that that makes sense because his his American accent was too weird. I was so that's what made this guys from. I should have known. He was British as an in this one. You know, that you are really in comedic territory, he has his thing. He he he makes sure that he son is on the is the most insane health diet writes, you eat chicken and rice, he says a mate list, right here, chicken and rice for breakfast chicken rice for lunch chicken rice. And then the white like a snack anything every day. No. Broccoli from breakfast dinner and lunch. Yeah. He's got a warped sense of work ethic. Guys p him, but his wife beats the shit X Y x wife that he's a hilarious character men. And when you see his performance, I wish I had a clip, but I don't because I really liked that character, man. And you know, and don't even get me started on the the native American mob. I love it native American. Mom. Yeah. I was like I would just wanna movie with these guys. Yeah. Yeah. You know, is that a point where that look only amazes face? That's confused and he's like shit. This is my movie. These people another thing lemme since character, he's not especial forces or anything like that. He's just a father who's just just mad. His son got killed the world's most bad as snow plow driver. Yeah. You like the punish snowplows robbers, man. That's that's even weird because it's like this guy. He just driven by anger. And even after certain point, they even kinda hint that maybe he's just crazy because they don't even like get into the sun that much after that like the sign is kind of a becomes like an afterthought lay. It is so quick how this here's a character. Who? His power is that he's got nothing to lose his been killed his wife just leaves him. Suddenly, and he's at a point we only give away too much now. Well, he's he's ready to give up on life. But the one thing is keeping him going is his revenge. Yeah. Yeah. In like, I say man, you know, he goes into punish a territory where you're just like, okay. This guy the killing because he just got a taste for it. The first time, and it just fine is good. I is is because that can say they don't even mention the sign that much anymore after a while. I mean this mentioned but not that much. It's not it's not like, it's a driving force where he's just sitting bagging, my boy, you know, it's like there's other characters into that actually seem to have more emotions towards that children than he does not say, he's a bad character. It's just it's this action movie that doesn't it's now. I'm no that they did this on purpose. Make it as a as darkly comedic as they did. But it they pay so much attention to like try to stick to the drama action and making that a priority, and then put in the human whereas appropriate that it seems like it's an action film that does doesn't know how funny it is. Well, okay. So here's the thing about this. Because I. Thinking that too. I was like man between being an action film and being a dark comedy. It's it doesn't quite know. How to meld these things correctly. It's like sometimes it's one thing sometimes the other, and yeah, it doesn't know what it is. And then a big motif about it is people getting killed and showing you their name afterwards. Like, hey, you it's always like the hunger games where a cannon goes off in the air. There's a screen where they get their own name plastic what they do is. They I thought it was created what they did. Because you know, they they put a lot. It's a creative movie too. Because what they do is no matter whether it's a good God Bagai, one of his one of his gimmicks is that you'll you'll it gives a visual eulogy of some sort to people who have died. Yeah. Just so if any party that wonders, yeah, they get to a point where they'll show somebody alive and the scene just cuts, and you see that name come up you like ho well, yeah. Yeah. Give you scorecard. But but the thing, but once it was all said and done I kept thinking man, this feels like it's an adaptation of of a book with is probably more than explained some things. And then I thought to myself that's about this. That makes me think I bet I could see this movie. I don't know how it's gonna be received here. But I bet if it was from a foreign country like Norway when those Norwegian crime movies at fantastic fest. Everybody would love it only to discover this. That's what it was gone in here in that they made a starting start to make a big deal about how this was this was a Norwegian film by the same directors the same. Yeah. This was Stella Stella scars plays. The lease is interesting. I'm seeing the movie you did watch last night. 'cause he could tell me what is like 'cause I looked at it. And I thought, wow, they are staying very close to even to certain shots that they did. Except they looked like they had a bigger budget and this one, but the same very close to what they did Thomas in the trailer, look like the door and shop shot remake. Overdose to not come on. This is all the thanking era. Is taking those comments. One of the things I don't know how they would bring in native American mobs that. Okay. So here's what they do. Because you're right about it. It's not quite shot for shot. But it is beat for beat. This is a very faithful adaptation, it's just that it has more money. And it is it's slightly better to to be honest. I thought maybe I'd see the original because because it co pursuit I liked it. But I didn't love it. And I thought if I watched it originally probably have all the cool shit. And they're no matter of fact, they've added things and with the original instead of the native American mob. It was a Serbia mob because air there in Norway. Gotcha. So there there's the Serbians are the there the foreign mafia. That's come in. They gotta deal with. Yeah. You know? I mean, look there's a lot of things that I really they're really love love about this movie. It got the point where in a what we kept talking about Fargo. And then we kept talking about taking. And then dawned on me that okay? This is taken. If the corn brothers got the script. I yeah. Yeah. In maybe made the movie of a like somewhat that we see here are made into episode of Fargo that you see on TI thinking more like the TV series. They did a season of that where the where the criminals actually, the good guy going around taking out the other bad guys. But. And I love it. Another thing about is like Fargo. I love cinematography, man. Look, you know, what all you feature film makers out there. You want to do some good cinematography just use some in snow. It does give you a lot to play. Yeah. And make sure that you kill a lot of people. The blood is ways you can get that. Rear plasma hitting the white powder is beautiful. But they, but what they do here man, they make it's in Denver, but they make Denver look like they make Denver look like a. The Arctic are are. They are a time to make it look like like, no way. No way. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, you know, sometimes it's really beautiful with these big these big modern homes, man, you know, the cinematography in this is a is amazing. And sometimes it's frightening when they had these blizzards going through when this this gloomy looking dusk is coming over the landscape. It say, you know, it's definitely you look at that trailer until they do have way more Monday. He had in the last one, right? And any any made a better movie? It's a slightly better movie. I I I've watched that I felt like, you know, what if he would have tightened some things he could've made actually much better movie. It's it's like he's trying to do the Coen brothers here, and you know, succeeding more than not. But it's still one of those where man if they had done this. You wouldn't a question what kind of movie it was I agree because for one look everybody. I know I love story. I know one care to development want care to be. I want every cat to be developed as much as they can. But not every care needs a supply. Right. Sometimes you don't serve no purpose. In the back. You know, maybe pulling the trigger, but they try to give these subplots. He's weird absurd supply somebody's and quirky subplots some of these characters that don't that don't do anything. But either make the movie too long are one of the things that brought the movie down a notch. With me is that they they introduce a character in a subplot just to have a convenient coincidental. Way to end the movie, and and I thought man, that's this is way too convenient. I did not. I did not like the end. Oh, yeah. I I what happened. I didn't mind. But I thought that's not a way to end this. Yeah. That could have been something that's almost insignificant. It could have been something that just happened in the movie and didn't have to be here. A thing about the original one improvement is that those those cops they they are just almost like a comedic thing. Comedy relief that show up twice in don't really play an important part in here. The police there in there a lot. But if you took them out this would proceed as normal, Dan, you don't you don't need them. And you get recognizable actors for these roles almost like you got them to agree to be in it. So you beefed up their part, but they don't really serve anything on the people. I'm talking about like man gotta do shit. Yeah. Name in and I'm like real life. Didn't investigation is just disappear. Got they really didn't do anything. There. We useless. Yeah. It's it's a little too long. It's two hours could have been a real tight hour and a half hour forty five if you take some characters out, and you don't need it. And I think it needed a strong ended. I really liked this movie. I did I liked to lot. But I'd have to give it a matinee couldn't go full price. Yes. Same here. And you know, what I paid for it? And I was like, okay. This was work that, but it's just some things I was like man, if you could just get this back in the editing room, we can fix a lot. He's problems. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And just get that director sit him down. All right, man. I notice your darling, and you did it before they worked here. But maybe this time lose some of that Lisa's just had me just beat more assets. That's all kill more people. That's what you came to see in a way, I'm thinking, I'm glad it's not taking but. Commend kind of just gangs move. Well, you know, all things considered. Maybe that's what probably is probably. Yeah. But it's good man is really the biggest thing that movie has going for it is the is is really pitching this one moving going in and saying another are maybe walkout saying that's bullshit. I mean, maybe it's just one that. I I thought that I might be getting a much worse movie than this. Because thinking it's going to be another taken or the commuter. All right. Let's let's get this over with. 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SIO180: Liam Neeson and White Fragility

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SIO180: Liam Neeson and White Fragility

"You're listening to serious inquiries on. Hello. And welcome to serious inquiries only. This is one hundred eighty I'm Thomas Smith, and I will be doing a complete one eighty today. There's my allotted dad joke for the day. Yeah. Also, sorry. I have a cold. I'm gonna sound like crap, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But lots to talk about today. There's there's a few things that have really been bugging me. There's this Liam Niessen thing. And of course, as always as I say every time. Yes, it is about Liam Niessen partially. But it's also about our society as a whole, and it's the same with any of these me conversations, you know, the conversation blows up around the details of whatever the particular situation is the particular bad apology or awful, weird confession or whatever it is. And in the end, it's still the same societal problems in my opinion. And I think there are some things I have to say about this one that I hope will be useful. Maybe maybe we'll add to the conversation in a good way. We'll see. But then before that I wanted to talk about something. That's I if anything I guess, it's kind of a point toward the direction of conservative won't say that I would say, it's it's I want to clarify something in the news that it's it's a case of I think the left is not being entirely accurate in what's happening. So in that has to do with the tax return thing. So I I started seeing this my wife shared with me, you know, and I saw it around on Twitter and stuff people tweeting their tax refunds, and I should say at the outset. I think that tax Bill was horrible. I think Trump's tax plan was horrible. I'm against it. I'm absolutely opposed to it. So this isn't in any way to defend it. But when I saw people posting ham not getting a refund the Trump tax scam. I had a little bit of alarm bells go off because I'm like, well, that's not. What you know? My problem with the tax Bill is that it's giving back to many taxes not that. So I was a little confused. And I I was wondering what the situation was and didn't quite make sense to me because people might know by listening to me by now, my background is actually an accounting. I have a business degree I specialized in accounting. I worked as an accountant for while nice, which to more data oriented stuff and programming and stuff, but that's my career. But anyway, I heard that I thought that this can't be right? My problem with the Bill is that taxes are too low. And here's the thing. Like, I think they're also too low disproportionately it may be possible that people on the lower income brackets aren't getting enough back, and I thought okay that could be a possibility, but it's still I still know after looking into the details of the tax plan that something like only five percent of Americans will have increased tax burden under this plan. And Furthermore, I was. Pretty sure that those five percent based on the specifics of the plan are only going to be people with high incomes anyway. So I was finding a little confusing that there's this hashtag going on. And there's all kinds of people sharing their pictures of their tax refund and saying outs tax scam. We're paying more in taxes. And I was a little worried about that rhetoric because I see liberals jumping onto it. And I wanted to remind everybody like wait, we're four higher taxes for some people. So it's weird. I felt uncomfortable trying to latch onto and and signal boost an echo, the like, yeah, we should all be mad that if our taxes go up in the slightest it's like no people like me or people, you know, I'm in a two income household. We were deal. Okay. We have a lot of expenses because we're in California. That's a whole nother story in daycare and all that. But like, I'm fine. If my taxes go up because I'm sitting on a mound of privilege. I'm not wealthy by any means. But I'm doing fine. Like, I don't if if a tax Bill came out that. At or or some sort of legislation came out that guaranteed healthcare to people and guaranteed living wage to people and my taxes went up, I'm fine with that I wouldn't be posting a picture of my tax refund being like what happened on my God, you know? And therefore, I was a little worried about what was happening in this social media thing. So then come to find out through. I think the Washington Post had a good article about this. What happened is I think this is important to know the details people are paying less in taxes under Trump's plan. And I think it's important to it's important to me. Anyway to be factual and make sure we're criticizing things for the right reasons. What happened is they didn't adjust their withholding. So like over the course of the year their paychecks. Everyone's paychecks went up because the way they executed the tax change they made it. So that you if. If you wanted the same amount of refund you're going to have to adjust your withholdings to keep your paycheck the same because, you know, there's obviously two sides to the coin so like your tax refund in the end is very basic stuff that soom most people know, but some people actually shockingly don't, and you know, no offense intended to those people. Maybe I'll just explain very briefly, but you know, your tax refund is simply the difference speaking in broad terms the difference between what you owed in taxes throughout the year. And what your withholdings were on your paycheck? That's going to depend a lot on what kind of work. You do Bill. Let's say you're just a run of the mill fulltime employees with a modestly good job somewhere. And you earn a decent wage. Your your HR whatever's going to figure out your withholding number that's going to keep a certain amount from your check. So what happened with the tax Bill was that amount that's being withheld every single paycheck went down. And so you started getting more in your bottom line not going to be a ton more. But a little bit more. Each two two weeks or months, or however, your paychecks are configured I work for the state so ours where every month, which is whole nother story. It's a very weird weird thing. But anyway, people who don't work for the government get paid every two weeks, usually. But anyway, so that went up, and as a result people were expecting, you know, they go to do their tax their taxes at the end of the year, and they're expecting a refund which by the way, not to go all libertarian Republican on you is an interest free loan to the government. So if you're getting back a bunch of money come tax time. I know it's fun. And we all love it. And I certainly loved it back in the day. When when I would get back, you know thousand bucks or something that attacks time that is your money all along you're not getting anything from the government. Like, you just you gave them too much in. They're paying you back, and you didn't earn interest on it. So if you are somebody who wants to be really scrupulous and good with your money. You don't wanna be getting back a big return come tax time and. Again, so policies of the for for those of whom this elementary obvious information. But I'm seeing a lot of people not understanding this. And it makes me nervous. So people got a little bit more in their paychecks. They went to do their refunds, and they're not getting anything some cases. They oh money. And now they're saying what attack scam I paid more taxes. When in fact, they probably didn't. And so that's the that's the fact that I wanted to clear up, and the reason I want to once again is because I do think some people should be paying higher taxes. Now, I think mainly billionaires and people who die and try to leave tens of millions of dollars to their kids. Like, that's where I think most of the chunk of the tax burden should be. So it's unlikely under president Thomas Smith's tax plan that you are gonna pay more. Maybe we will pay a little bit more. But, but the point is I don't want us to be kind of stabbed in the back with this later, you know, for if liberals are rallying around this like, oh, look at Trump's and you're paying more taxes and. A you're not actually and be under a causE' president of Cossio Cortes. We're going to be wanting to pay more in taxes because we're gonna want to deliver more to more people. I just don't want that to come back to bite us. So just wanted to clear that up. It's again, it's only there's only five percent of of citizens who should be paying more in taxes, and they will most likely be p actually might be people like me who live in a state with high taxes because as as you'll recall, it's the salt, you know, the state and local taxes deduction got capped. So if you live in a state, like, California, I think the other ones were, you know, New York, New jersey, those kind of states that have high state local taxes that and you make by the way and you make a good living. Those were the people whose taxes we're going to go up it. It's not the case that people making, you know, twenty five thirty thousand dollars a year their taxes aren't going up. Like, I think it's unless they have very weird circumstances. Their taxes should be going down. Under Trump's plant, and the reason for that is Trump wanted to give or not I shouldn't even say Trump Paul Ryan and a bunch of Republicans wanted to cut taxes to the ultra wealthy by a trillion dollars. And as such also hand if you crumbs to the middle class, and they did. And so what you should see a few crumbs like when when you when you do you get your CPA like here's a couple of crumbs. Yes, you didn't get as much a refund, but you also had more in your paychecks. So it's we should expect to pay less taxes under this plan. So just wanted to clear that up hope that made sense. But it also sucks if you were expecting refund, and it's kind of interesting because on one hand, I do totally understand the feeling of like, oh, I love when I get a refund from the government because it's while you aren't making interest on it. It is in some ways a sort of someone forcing you to save money. You know, which isn't the worst thing. So I actually I mean if you are somebody who has a hard time saving money. It's it's not the worst thing in the world. You know, I would I would suggest I would recommend setting up in a direct deposit to a savings account rather than just giving it to the government to hold for you. Because you know, you're not running anything on it not out of some distrust of government. But because you literally don't you don't get any interest on that. Whereas you might get a little bit in savings account. So if I were money manager, given some tips here, I would say if you're somebody who has a hard time, saving that's my first recommendation. But like, it's not the worst thing in the world. If you have a hard time, saving and your deductions were too high. And so you were not making enough on your check in the your counting on the government to give you back some money that was yours the whole time. It's not the worst thing in the world. Like people scoff at it a lot like, oh, you should've taken that. That's your money. Not the government's like, well, I don't know. I guess there is some benefit to them may. Making you save a thousand dollars out of the year two thousand whatever might be. And so, you know, that's how you that's how you do your personal finances. I just wanna say that might not be the most outrageous thing the world to do. But you could accomplish the same thing by by having some of your paycheck go into savings account. All right off, the exciting topic of accounting and paychecks and the tax plan. I wanna talk about this Liam Niessen thing. So I've tweeted a decent amount about this a little bit. And you know, the usual stuff has happened in. I'm not going to rehash too much of. Well, I mean, I guess after do basically so. Liam Neeson's this. This is what happened in bizarre all around, you know. And there's the discussion there's the meta discussion in is always there's the overreaction to either side of the discussion, we find ourselves in this situation every time and part of my takeaways that I want to just tell you and I want to put out there. What I think in my opinion. My fallible opinion is an appropriate reaction. And then that's kind of that, you know. Whereas I see a lot of other people who want to react to the reaction in us as I've called it before nut picking I didn't invent the term, but I came across it the other year as a brilliant term, not picking find people who are reacting badly in use that to then react off of that. Now, it's one thing if you wanna take note and take stock of how people reacting and that's fine. You can you can see where you think people are going wrong. But to then. Base. Your opinions off of that primarily I think is a trap because it will always lead us to the same conclusions. If we want to you know, if we go into this wanting to say people always over a yak to any sort of racism of any kind and they wanted to murder Liam niece it then we find for people who like tweet that they wanna shoot Liam Neeson our or something. And then that's that's the frame of reference. We're bringing to it. You can do that every time because we live in an age where a billion people are online giving they're really bad opinions oftentimes, and you can find the ones you wanna find. And you may even be a notable person, you know, like may even be celebrity or something for example. There was somebody who tried to defend Liam Niessen in the worst way. And maybe I'll bring that up. And that's Michelle Rodriguez said she Liam Neeson couldn't be racist. Because of how how much he was kissing his coast black co to move. I I don't know if it was a joke or what? But that's an insane. Take and I could sit here and just use that and use Fox News to Judd to to base my entire reaction. And that would that would be I think not equally wrong without also be wrong. I think it wouldn't be equally wrong because Fox News and a bunch of white people represent more of society and of people in power than the vice versa than than people of color who might be reacting viscerally to this racism anyway, with that little meta discussion aside, let's get to the the actual fact so his promoting his new movie Liam Niessen was he was on the press junket for that. Which is it's not taken ninety five taken six hundred seventy thousand. I've never seen any of those taken movies. You know, may maybe maybe someday I'll see him. But I've never really is. The basically the concept is someone is kidnapped Liam Neeson's daughter, but he's Liam Neeson's. Hi, I'm Liam Newson. And I'm gonna get ya. And somehow they made like ten of those. But this is not that this is virtually the same. I guess it's a movie called cold pursuit. That was like, let's do that. But slightly different because they've done the taken movies too many times. I think so it's revenge. It's another revenge based movie is the point and over the course of this press junket, you know, they do a billion views all these different journalists. And there's plenty of times people are tired, and people are whatever during the course of this for some reason Liam Niessen decided to tell a very disturbing story an incredibly disturbing story. And we'll we'll talk about the logic behind telling the story, but what he talked about was that a friend of his back forty years ago or so was raped by a black, man. And and so then Liam Niessen sought out. And he he admits this in a in a very scary way sought out like you just walked around with a cut. Joel. Looking hoping that black man random, not this is important, not the perpetrator of this crime. But just any black man would try to fight him. So he could not in. So again, I wanna use his words not. So that he could may be getting a fight, you know, that kind of thing. So he could literally kill a random black, man. That's what he said by his own words. And yes, he brought this up and didn't have anybody reveal it which I give them credit for that. So far as it goes like he brought this up. I guess it's not as though he tried to hide it, and then someone discovered it so slight partial credit there. But he brought this up in response to question about revenge and the way he left. It was very short originally. It was only a couple minute clip the way he left. It was this is basically how bad revenge is. And yes, he did talk about regretting it. Regretting this incident. But he didn't speak ever in that first clip. He never specifically addressed the racism of what he was doing. And which is why I tweeted something that got some got some retweets on Twitter, some people I think what I was trying to say agreed with it. Which is it's like if you admit that you used to litter all the time. And then also you're like, yeah. In ice cream, the N word as I lived. And then you're like, but I don't litter anymore. Don't worry. I don't litter. Anyone I regret that? And then people like we will haunt what what about the part with the N what he said he doesn't let her anymore guys. And that's a joke. I was making. But it's kind of I think it's pretty in my opinion. It's it's pretty relevant because he brings up a story of quote, unquote, revenge in which yes, there is a revenge component, which would have been all I like imagine. If the story were just revenge. It would on this way. Like if this were just in my mental. Files and my past. There was a strike. I go, you know report. I'm Lee niece. Liam Neeson reporters asked me about revenge. And I'm like, let's see go through my mental Rolodex. What stories do I have about revenge? It would be my friend. You know was was sexually assaulted. And I was so mad that I said who did it, and I just went and try to find that person. And just I was going to beat them up. Maybe I would've killed him. I don't even know. But I realized eventually that. That's you know, it's something best left to the police. And and I could have been heard could hurt somebody that that would have been revenge. That's that's just revenge and also, you know, little bit toxic masculinity mix in some other things. But that's I would that would be comfortable of being like, oh that's a lesson about revenge. But there, but that's not the story. The story is I just I eventually asked what race the person was for some reason. And then I decided to go punish an entire. Race and maybe kill an innocent person of the same race. And if you're going to bring that up, you need to at least, here's what I was asking, you know, it's I would love to grant Liam Niessen all the leeway in the world as a white man, especially because I'm sitting on a pile privileges. I said earlier, you know, like from my point of view there. There are people like Chris pitchy Leany, I think account, I don't know how to pronounce it. But something like that pick Leany maybe who was in the KKK, and he somebody who is Aton for what he's done, and he started to do the work of how do I do some of that damage and people love him like, that's it's not as though if you've ever done anything wrong racist, or whatever you are out of society. Forever. Few admit, it's just not the case. But we keep running into is people is white men usually who have either done or said or been racist. And then don't want to do the work. They don't. Want to do the work to actually recognize to step one to listen to like find? I don't know find a get a hold of a black friend and ask them if they're willing to listen to like, if I you need to make sure to ask them permission first because you can't it's another component can't just lay this on whoever. But maybe have a black friend you trust in. And you can ask me. Hey, can I talk to you about a story that that might include some of my previous racism, and they are free to say, no, I don't wanna deal that. Or maybe they'll be like, yeah, I'm your friend late on me and get some feedback about it. Nobody's putting a lot of people aren't putting in the work of even trying to do that. You know, this is this is something you need to properly atone for they're willing to like kind of address it in offer an apology, and then everyone gets really mad when their apology isn't instantly accepted, despite the fact that it doesn't seem clear they've properly even addressed the issues, maybe, and it's it's. It's at best ambiguous as to whether Liam Niessen understood when he told that story how bad it was. It's it really is. Now, he did a follow up interview, which I'm gonna talk about in which he did slightly better. But in that original interview it is unclear like at best. It is unclear if leonie's fully understands what he did someone said this. He was a George Zimmerman who didn't find Trayvon Martin. Is that wrong at all? I don't think that's dead on one hundred percent dead on. Maybe George Zimmerman has some family member friend who wants, you know, had some sort of crime committed to them by a black person. Maybe I don't know. Would would that make it in any way better? Okay. No, absolutely. Not not in the slightest. And so as such I feel like that's a perfectly apt comparison to say he Liam Niessen for those four five nights that he talked about was a George Zimmerman who didn't find Trayvon Martin. And think about think about how horrible that is to just say, you know, like just if you were going to say something like that. And a you should not be doing that in this venue, the time to do that is not in a press junket about a movie, you're in, you know, that's not. I think number one probably the time to do it is in therapy. That's the time to do it. And that's part of what I wanted to talk about, you know, there's a vox article. I saw that's that's that's really good. I think it's called Windu racists deserve forgiveness. That's that's part of the article, I suggest you read it. But that's not actually the crux of what I wanted to talk about in this article. There's a really interesting component. And it's something that I I think is also reflected in the book white for Jilay to book, I read last year that I would highly recommend as looking at it on my bookshelf there white for Jilin, and that's by Robin. Daniel actually, tried to get Robin Dangelo on the show while back, but she was too busy. But that's okay. Fully understand. I'm just another dude with white dude with podcast. I get it. But but yeah, no fantastic book. I absolutely recommend it. And I want to say that I recommend it even though like. There's there's probably five ten percent that I don't quite agree on, you know, but like it's fantastic. Ninety to ninety five percent that I do agree on my. That's just me. And maybe you'll feel differently. Maybe grew hundred percent of it. Maybe agree with seventy five percent. Who knows but there's incredible value there. And there's there's a lot of insight there as to even win we as white people. I'm speaking speaking speaking for the whole race here. No speaking for myself here in anybody like me, even when as a white person with privilege, you want to be respectful careful. You wanna be acknowledging and cognizant of racism. There's still a lot of mistakes you can make that do real harm to people of color, and here's number one. And I was going to get to this with this discussion. One of the biggest things with this whole Liam Niessen thing. And it came up a lot in the second interview was that we have this desire in this day and age to label someone as either a racist or be not racist. If they're not being not racist than their heroes, if they're a racist than they're the bad guy in the they're they're the people in the robes and hoods, and obviously that's just not how it works. But but sorry back to what I was saying from this vox article this. This was written by Martha Crawford who I think is a let's see is a writer and psychotherapist, and she was talking about this particular thing that happened. Let me just read a paragraph or two here. I think it's really interesting. But it is very important to remember that to inflict such confessions on people of color without their consent is a kind of psychological violence. We have to think about the settings we speak into and how they may inflict further injury. I was taught this lesson many years ago as a social worker intern working in a clinic for kids in Brooklyn that served a diverse community. The frontline staff was almost as diverse as our clients. A newly hired supervisor gathered the team together and announce that we were having a workshop to talk about race and racism. She asked us all to think of the first moment that we felt racism and awoke to the effect. It would have on our lives. She then asked people to share. An overeager intern. I was the first ago I told a story from preschool about visiting friends house. I was surprised to see the Chia white mom and a black dad when I expected that both our parents would be black excited by this discovery. I shared it with my parents at dinner. My father chewed his food and silence and stared at his plate. I saw his jock clenching, and I felt in my bones that I would never go to play with my friend. Again. I didn't know if this was because my classmate was black or because of her parents interracial marriage. I was filled with a nauseating. Shame realizing that there was something very wrong inside my father after a few minutes of silence. Another volunteer spoke a white man who had discovered his grandfather was a clansman when a black woman across the circle from me stood up saying, no, no this is not happening. I'm not doing this. This is not. Okay. And she walked out. So I'll end there. And again that was by Martha Crawford vox, article linked highly recommend reading it. But that's a component that I think is overlooked here. It's it's this idea. It's it's interesting because it's like partway there and all through this minefield of white people. There's going to be this feeling, and I I've experienced it myself as a white person. And I've done my best over the years to outgrow it, which is when you when you've decided within yourself whenever that was maybe it was forever for some white people. Maybe it was hasn't happened yet. But for me in overcoming my conservative upbringing. There was a point some years back many years back. I think where I decided it's not just that. You've personally label yourself not a racist. That's I think everyone does that. I think even raises most of the time do that they label themselves. I'm not racist. Most of the time. But there's there's another component to it. At least. I'm just speaking for myself here as a conservative that there still was in my heart. There was an in my mind. There was a resistance. To to any complaint about racism because part of being a conservative in America. And watching Fox News is a complete denial that racism still functions in our society, and an anger at anyone who would bring it up and just total belief that they're either making it up, or there some something else explains it, you know, it's not their raises pry they think it's the race. But they're wrong. They're just don't know. What's going on there blaming everything on race because excuse that is very much alive in I would say, by my estimation. As having been a conservative ten ten twelve fifteen years ago. That's in most conservatives that that feeling is, you know, at somebody like Adam Corolla, you know, thinks that way I used to listen to him. I couldn't do it anymore. Eventually. But it's that kind of casual they're not hardcore, right? And he's not even a hard core right winger. He's just somebody that's a little conservative, and that's very much. Operating in his storytelling, which is everybody. Who's talking about racism is making it up? That's a convenient excuse. And I remember I can remember vaguely obviously, Dayton time or anything. But I can remember when I started realizing that that was not true. And when I started realizing that as a white person who has benefited from privilege, and who is in a society where white people on the whole benefit from privilege, and hold, you know, vastly overwhelmingly all the wealth in this country, relative to black people, certainly that I at least had the obligation to listen, you know, that maybe it still would be the case that somewhere in the world there. There will be a person of color who thinks they were the victim of racism, and maybe they're wrong. Who cares doesn't matter? Maybe maybe that would be true. It's probably not true most the time. And Furthermore, the least I could do as a white person with privilege is not close my mind. Into it. That would be that would be at the very least. And that's that's the number one message. I wish I could get through to a lot of white people I interact with on Twitter who are denial is about racism in our societies. Okay. Maybe you're not on board with me, by the way. I am somebody thinks we should pay reparations. I I would point people to the tunnel. Hussy coats article about reparations, which I think states case better than I ever could so read that I think we ought to be paying reparations that. So that's where I am on this issue. But maybe you're not gonna go that far. Okay. Fine. Could I at least get you to stop in? Listen, you know, like could I at least get you to realize that at the very least as a result of all the harm and the systematic deprivation of wealth and opportunity that this society over the years over the decades has has inflicted on black people. Could I lease get you to take that in? I'm not be defensive and say, okay, maybe maybe after listening. Maybe I'll still think this person, you know, is wrong about what they're saying about racism, but I'm going to at least stop, and listen, it's not the hardest thing to do. Because that's we don't do that. You know, let conservatives don't do that conservatives are full on defensive mode, blah, blah, blah. I'm not listening. Now. There's no racism, you're wrong. This is another hoax thin, but I will tell you also from personal experience in involving on this over the last decade and a half or whatever it's been that when you're in that early phase is a white person of recognizing that and thinking, you know, I do need to I need to make an effort. I need to be better. I need to listen more. And you still get called out for something or you still maybe you're trying but you disagree or some that's a very sensitive time. You know, that there's a very sensitive reaction. I see in a lot of this conversation around Liam Niessen, which is no I consider myself. A speaking of somebody else now they to themselves I consider myself on not racist and even a little little bit. It liberal maybe progressive, but the minute they're still criticism. Like, no, no, you're still not getting it. Then it's like another opportunity to slam the door. Feels it feels personally like an injury. No, I I'm not I'm not a race. I'm not the Trump support. I'm not the conservative. And you're still treating me like, I'm doing something wrong. Like, I'm a racist. How dare you? And then you shut off and it's hard. But you have to realize that that also is something that you can't do. And I would encourage people to read white for Jody. 'cause I think you know, she puts it a lot better than I'm putting it now. But the point I'm making is that there's resist there's there's all kinds of different levels, you know, people in specifically white conservatives in this country, usually and even white liberals just white people in general, in my opinion are at different stages of denial of what's happening in what's happened throughout history. Some people are not in denial, but some people are and even when you're my point is even when you're going along. Spectrum toward being someone who recognizes the problems with race over the years in the society when you still get called out or disagree with people of color or see what they're doing. It can be even more personal when you feel like you're making that effort, and you're still not in. You're still coming up a little short. That's the point. I'm making I see that a lot of are a lot of our dialogue on this. But back to that vox article. So I think that it will Strates the point well that it's why I thought of it. So these people are described in the vox article, these people are not, you know, quote, unquote, racist, they're not yet likely most likely the classical archetype of racism that we would think of that the person clan hood, even though that's that's a caricature that that doesn't often exist. These are people who would consider themselves progressive and Furthermore, probably consider themselves part of the solution. And they think oh, I'm gonna tell these stories. About how there was racism in my past. And but I'm better than that. I've dealt with it I understand. And then you don't think of what that is like for this black woman who is in the meeting you have. And this is something I could one hundred percent relate to being being blind to this like to this is this is something I could I don't think it's happened to me. But I maybe it has and like that would be a sucky feeling that you've in wanting to try to be good on these topics and wanting to be considerate an in wanting to speak out against racism. You might make a mistake like this in which you have essentially made a black woman hostage to this meeting where you are making this black woman hear tales of your or your family's racism, and then she's going to be expected to be forgiving about it. You're putting her in impossible situation of she has to be. She can only she isn't given the space to react how she would need to react. She's going to feel immense pressure to be conciliatory to forgive and to have to hear stories of people who've done real harm. I mean, it's it's a white person who's discovered there. Their grandfather was a clansman, you know, horrifying that is I wanted to bring up another another thing here. Which is I recently watched the Sam Cooke documentary on Netflix. So it highly recommend, and you know, what blows my mind about that that they're interviewing all like most of the people who were there, you know, this era in which black people were still being lynched and murdered by white people in the south where you know, smokey Robinson is being interviewed in and, you know, obviously, Sam Cooke was was killed in a in a questionable incident that you know, it's kind of unexplained this part of the documentary, but he's he. Can't be there to tell the tale. But a lot of people who sang with him in new him at the time are here today to tell the tale. This is five minutes ago and cosmic time not even that, you know in in human time. It's five minutes going geological time its five milliseconds ago. Like, there are a lot. They're here. The people who, you know, Sam Cooke had to not go to his own performed like he boycotted his own shows because they were segregated. He couldn't tour through where he was from because they wouldn't allow white and black people to be in the same show in the same place like the black people had to be far away on the balconies couldn't be enjoying themselves right next to Sam Cooke, whereas all the people right in front were white people. Because that's that was the law. Like, you know, this is a heartbeat ago. This is no time ago. I think back I've said this before, but blew my mind watching this when I think back to when I was learning about the civil rights era in so far as I did in public school, and it was like nineteen ninety seven or something, you know, or ninety five or it's like that's ten seconds from when it happened. And you learn it as a white kid. I'm sitting there as white kid in a small conservative town. I'm learning this like, yeah. Member this problem that we solved. Remember this thing? That's over called racism. Yeah. And I'm thinking, yeah. These are black and white photos is a long time ago. And then I think back to now when I was learning about in school, you know, Martin Luther King had been shot what thirty years before that maybe thirty years ago is no time thirty years ago. I can you know, I'm getting to the. Point in a few years here where I can remember thirty years ago, not quite yet. But it's it's no time it feels like no time. And so it's to treat. It like racism is this thing that's in black and white pictures from different era that we solve once we put a couple of things into a Bill and signed it in the sixties, then it was over. It's just not true. It's just not how things work and so back to the vox article in that in that meeting that is described when you're putting a black woman in in in this hostage scenario of having to listen to people talk about clansman, you know, who might have murdered people. She knew or relatives or her parents like you for all, you know, you don't know. It's it's it's horrible the terrorism in this country was exclusively committed by white people for hundreds of years, and it's a terrorism we don't even think about and we don't teach about because it was terrorism of. Of racial violence used to keep people black people in the south down. And it happened for hundreds, you know, hundred like, obviously, there is slavery. But even after slavery was ended. There was a brief time when reconstruction was attempted, and then it was abandoned because white people and Jim crow happened and roving bands of K K K. And or just ordinary citizens who wanted to keep black people down would commit at horrible acts of terrorism of lynchings murder torture, awful things on black people. The black people had live with Ed to live with that fear that that could happen to them or their family for decades for decades. This is not a it's not a casual thing is not a thing. You just bring up, you know. And when I say that I mean, you don't bring up like, oh, my grandfather might have been you know, like that. That's what I mean like being conscious about it is tough. And it's a challenge. But it's it's it's something that we ought to try to do and in that light what in the world was Liam Niessen doing when he's telling a story about being George Zimmerman who could have murdered on innocent black person. What are you doing men? Just don't tell that story. And I'm serious. You know, I was going to bring up Sarah haters reaction to this because Seth Andrews retweeted it, and I think it's it's absolute nonsense in my opinion. Listen to the paranoid ramblings of Sarah Haider here. Here's our Twitter threat unfortunate lessons from the Liam Niessen debacle. If you are human enough to have made a mistake. Do not also be stupid enough to share the mistake with the outside world, do not expect circumstance dilution character or contrition to save you from the fury of the mob. By the way, the fury of the mob has been not to see his movie. So there you plus, you know, probably say in tweet angry things out like like exists everywhere here step one. This is what I mean when I was setting it up in the beginning that we can't base our opinions on how people are reacting in the world. It just it doesn't if that's all you're looking at like you can look at it as a component. But if that's if that's all you're looking at you can find anyone to you cannot pick. Anyone just to be a person in the world right now on the internet means fifty percent of people hating you like, that's reg, really just is what it is right now. I can't you know, like if you want me to point to my files of people on the other side who send disgusting stuff at me. And all that I can do it. And it doesn't mean that. I'm right. Just as if you can find someone who was to mean to Liam Niessen on Twitter. It doesn't mean that Liam Neeson's, right? We have to realize that we are kind of stuck with social media. And how it is. Like, we're that's that. Should no longer be shocked now doesn't make it. Okay. I personally I'm going to do my best. To. I haven't been on social media whole lot lately, I'm doing my best. You know, a try to act better because it got hard. When ahead a bunch of in insult douchebag white men tweeting at me, it got tough. You know, I lashed out at times, and I hope very much I only lashed out of people who directly deserved it. But maybe I didn't. I don't know. Maybe I made a mistake. I don't know. But the point is I'm not excusing harassing behavior on Twitter. I still think is awful. But we know that anyone on any side is subject to it. You know, we can argue about the prevalence, I think you know, that that's a separate discussion. We can argue that does side X have more harassment than side y we can argue about that. But I think it's pretty obvious that it's everywhere if I'm a liberal, and I go to certain places online. I will get disgusting weird racist things I got a whole bunch of people when I dared to. Challenge. You know, Karl Sargon San some weird racist stuff at me, really weird stuff. Like, oh, how come you didn't how come your baby isn't black? If you love black people so much like just makes no sense. It's everywhere. It's on all sides. You can't pretend that you're the only rational person and your side is right because you found you've done some nut picking and found some bad reactions on the other side, what we have to do is try to have a logical response and try to model that as best we can and realize that we will never be rid of assholes who comment weird stuff on on both sides. Honestly, then didn't even get one tweeden. Okay. Second tweet tips on surviving unscathed. Again, this Acerra hater who I actually interviewed a while back. You know, Alica as a as a guest and everything is person. But she's certainly annoyingly centrist in my view. But then also. Pandering to kind of a white conservative audience in ways that I find obnoxious, but you know, not nothing nothing against her. Personally. I would talk to her. I would debater if she would buy I don't think she'd bother, but but yeah, this is really frustrating. This is one of those threads where it's like, you can really tell which audience she's pandering to in which which side that goes so tips on surviving unscathed. Be perfectly woke even according to behavioral standards. Not yet set the future will come for you. If you fail to reach the standard, do not worry. What matters is managing appearances woke nece is performance above all tip to do everything possible to erase evidence of bad behavior. Hope no offense archaeologists comes to dig through your past delete, delete, delete erase the memory, even from your own mind. You've only ever been faultless as such you can feel righteous in hunting others. Lastly. Point fingers at others as much as possible every minute the mobs attention is diverted to another which is a minute. You can breathe easy. Be sure to never try to intervene in an unjust attack. Less. You become the target of suspicion yourself, whether the wo- crowd wants these to be the lessons we learned from this is irrelevant. This is what will come out not more, correct behavior, not more honesty, but more cover-ups more popularity more witch-hunts is that what Justice looks like. They have at the paranoid delusions about this current. I mean seriously. This is nuts. Like point finger at race everything. Yeah. No, all because in actor in a bizarre context admitted to being a George Zimmerman to wanting to commit a racial murder. And then just some people are like, hey, that's weird. Don't do that. You know, like what you know. And for my part my criticism was if you're even going to bring that up what you shouldn't have done. You should not have done that it selfish to bring it up in the way that Leeson did for many reasons least of all but still important how much your how about your co stars in your movie, you know, like how about you think about the whole production crew co-stars that everybody went into this movie. And you just totally screwed him over and decided like oh here. I'll tell this bizarre raises story, and that just goes to show, I think in my mind, in my opinion, rather how that he didn't recognize the ridge. Weight of the racism of historian. That's my criticism from the beginning. I don't think he would've brought it up. Otherwise, there's to him. It was filed under the category of revenge, and in his mind, it's perfectly acceptable, not acceptable. But it's. It makes sense in Liam Neeson's mind. That revenge would cause you to one upon a whole race. You know, in a way that is not. Okay. That's not revenge. That's racism, so in responding to Sarah hater, I would say this the it. It's this bizarre expectation that the minute a white person talks about committing racist murder, even if he doesn't really fully acknowledge it. But just does it in like a regretful way. Like, oh, I regret all that. If they're not immediately Cigna like celebrated as a hero, and forgiven than we live in a Salem witch trial scenario, that's where you're going for this like, that's where we live if we don't instantly accept this non-policy this weird half policy. I guess you could say I mean, that's what talk about false dichotomy. Come on. And here's the thing. Here's the weird thing in in a weird way. I actually think Sarah is unintentionally right about part of this. Because after reading that vox article, I'm realizing like, yeah. The answer is Leeson shouldn't have brought this up. He should not have brought this up not to hide it not for him. But for other people, I think it was Trevor Noah who said, oh, yeah. You should have brought been on Oprah and done a whole thing. Yes. Something like that. Maybe like if you wanted to bring it up in a separate context in a conversation with a willing and notified ahead of time. Interviewer, you know, if it's somebody like Oprah who's willing to do this. Okay. Fine. Who's gonna maybe hold your feet to the fire little bit? But to spring it on somebody unawares and to talk about it in this context and throw the whole movie under the bus and in jeopardy because of your weird past racial murder. Story. It's we're yes. So don't bring it up. Like, you know, like if you really feel that you're not racist now or you're trying not to be or you think you're doing a good job of not being. And if you know if you're Liam Niessen, I'm I don't for a minute. I don't believe that. He there's a threat that Liam Neeson's gonna go beat up a black guy. Now, like, I don't you know, I I'm not saying that. But that's part of it. Like, if if you really think there's no threat to it. And a and b if the story's never gonna come out. This is something only he knows about. I'm not saying hide it again. It's not hide it for his sake. It's for everybody else's sick. Or or talk about it in a more Britt venue talk about it. When when it would make sense within the news cycle and not as part of promotion for your movie, you know, like maybe who knows maybe there's a story about some violence, racial violence or something if you really feel you need to get this out, and maybe that's a good input. Maybe that's a honorable impulse. Of out shoot. I have something bad in my past. I wanna tone for but do it with the you have to do it with the knowledge. And I know it's tricky. But if to do it with the knowledge that you can't force it on people just like in that meeting described in the vox article, you don't you don't force black people to be your hostage while you get something off your chest for your benefit to his ways, your guilt and force them into a position to have to forgive you for it. And or do that to the public at large? It's just not as actually it actually is selfish weirdly, and so in a bizarre way, some of what Sarah is saying is not that bad. Like, if if the message here is, hey, maybe I don't casually off handedly bring up past extreme racism, like maybe I either discuss it with therapist or maybe find a willing friend or something like that. Maybe that's where where I go. And you know, if you are public person, and if it's like a black face thing if it's something. Like that. I just wanna say sidebar if you are public person who wants war about black face. And there may be pictures of it. Okay. Go ahead and get ahead of it. But don't do it in promotion for your new film, and do it and do it in a scenario that makes sense. And do it in a way that shows people you understand what you did was wrong. That's what people are looking for. That's why Christian picky Leaney is beloved and other people are two. There are plenty. There are people who you know, accidentally or intentionally murdered people who are able to get back in societies good graces by saying, you know, by doing their time and like trying to make it right? Like it happens. It's not that society's entirely unforgiving. It's that you have to you have to show. You know, like the reason I said that is I I'm blanking who it is. I know there are people who are arrested at seventeen because they're part of a robbery in which somebody died. Like, you can you can come back from that stuff. You serve your time. You recognize what you did was wrong? You do everything you can't fix it. You know, maybe the families never gonna forgive you. But obviously, but society might you know, you can't. And that's an extreme example. You know, that's that's an extreme example. That's not wearing black face. You know, that's murder wearing black faces something if you if north had come out, and a lot of black people have said this if he'd come out apologized said why what he did was wrong recognized. It was wrong from the beginning. And that was that it would have been more or less. Okay. Would have been great. But would have been survivable as a as a politician because it did happen forty years ago. But the way he did the way people white men are doing these apologies is so weird. It's so bizarre north of Mike denied like he said. Oh, yeah. That was me. And then he came back and said, wait a minute. It wasn't me in those pictures. Like, actually, it wasn't like there was so much black face and KKK uniform pictures happening that it's hard to keep track of who was who made it even worse. And then he said he put on shoe polish address like Michael Jackson and did the moon walk. And then he was almost gonna do the moonwalk again in in a press conference, but his wife stopped. I mean. Bizarre stuff and so-. Rightfully people are like, oh, that's a weird apology. I don't really accept that slash. Maybe you're still racist. If you don't understand what happened here. And then and then come the Seir hated. Oh, nothing. We can do nothing. You'll never be satisfied. Seth Andrew said this. There's people never be satisfied because because Liam Neeson's trust strating himself. It's like, okay, come on. And you know, what maybe there will be people who will never be satisfied. And that's okay. Because there are people as I said to be a human on the internet in two thousand nineteen means thirty at least thirty percent, people hate you and want you to die. It's just a shitty time to be alive in some ways. That's just the case of if you're expressing any sort of political racial opinion. No matter where you are. There's there's going to be those people who for whom it's not good enough. But what you don't do as you say, oh, there's a few people for whom nothing will be good enough. So I'm not even gonna try. No, you say, okay. Well, let's what would be rational what's a reasonable apology, which in in your opinion reasonable reasonable person would accept and you try to do that. And for me trying to be as reasonable as I can that means doing a little better than lamb Niessen that means explicitly understanding, the racism of your story and explicitly condemning it and not getting defensive and saying, I'm not raised. I'm not raises. That that's not it. Oh, man. I've rambled a time. Sorry about that. There's one more thing. I want to make sure to get to in. This is in the good Morning America interview that Liam Niessen did. And again, I for me just speaking from my own background, which entirely fallible and could be wrong. I give him partial credit here. Like, he did try. He he got on with a now somebody who actually agreed to do this. Like, you talked to his to somebody who consented in hearing this bizarre, racial murder confession story. So that's a step up, and he tried to atone for a little bit. But listen, listen here, there's a there's a part that just really was curious for me. And I just have to play. It goes me on me. You tell me what the teachable moments, please. I'm going through a bike at you. I think the teachable moment is that we have to own up to when we the one point that I wanna make out is that this wasn't discovered by somebody you admitted this this isn't a Gotcha. This isn't like, oh, so I give you credit there. But also having to acknowledge that the hurt even though it happened decades ago the hurt of of an innocent black man knowing that he could have been killed for something. He did not do because of the color of skin or people are making have killed me too. He was getting clo-. You know, like he he asked Robin to to tell him the lesson as long as she's you know, as long as he's not forcing her into that. And it's something she's wants to do. That's that's good. Okay. Start listening as somebody. And he still can't stop when she's like. Yeah. The hurt you could caused that that a that an instant black man could have been killed. He still he's has to say or he could have killed me. No. This is not a fifty fifty thing. There's not like ima-, just imagine. Let's say it somebody telling a story about living in the south in the fifties. And let's say they say, you know, they'd have to be a little older than Lisa. But that's okay. They say, hey, you know, what one night me and my white racist friends drove out, and we looked for a black man that we would have lynched we would done it. I want to say, hey, this is not factually that much different from lameness story. He went looking for an innocent blackmail. To murder just just just putting it out there. But imagine if someone said that and then the interviewer says, yum. Wow, the hurt you're causing. Bye bye. Telling black people they could have been there. Maybe their family member. Whatever would have been murdered by you. And then they say, oh, yeah. Or they could murdered me. When we tried to Lynch them what? No that that's that's incredibly inappropriate thing to say. It makes no sense. It's really mind boggling to me. And then the Sarah haters in the Seth Andrews is of the world the minute you pipe up and say, no, this wasn't a good apologize. Weird stuff in this apology, doesn't it's not quite right. Oh is nothing. Liam Neeson can do good enough. The they set up that false dichotomy where. Whoever put a label on it. I won't put a label on just people who find Liam Neeson's story. Weird inappropriate and not properly accounted for. We're put in a bind of accept this apology or it's the Salem witch trials, and it's just a false dichotomy. Sorry, not gonna do it. So that's how I feel. I know that was a lot. But but there's a lot there too. It's immediately issue. It's an issue that, you know, and I'm still learning every day about please feel free to tell me where I'm wrong, you know. And if you're somebody who by the way, if you are black in a listener, and you have any thoughts on this. And you would like to share them on the show, please contact me. Because I it's an interesting thing. I would love to get a person of color on the show to talk about it. But then I also feel the kind of the the bind of, but then if I'm just reaching out to make them talk about this particular thing, then is that kind of weird too. Two. It does feel I just want to be sensitive to that. And I don't wanna put anybody in a weird position or or just feel like I'm asking people to come speak on behalf of their race. So you know, that's why I'm just putting my thoughts out there. And if there if if I'm wrong about something people can correct me, and I'm happy to admit, I'm wrong. But if you are somebody listening who if your person of color, and you have thoughts on this. And if you disagree or agree either way, I don't care, and you and you are somebody who would like to come on and give your thoughts. Please. Let me know because I would be happy to have you on. But it just it just feels weird when things like this come up, and it's like, then in my just asking a black person to come on and speak for their like, it's just a it's a it's a sticky scenario either way, and you know, I just want to do my best to be respectful, and if I'm if I'm doing something wrong, I polish is I I don't know. You know, what's the best wrong thing to do here? So I just want to put my thoughts out there and hope they help and please if you. Like this episode. If you think it's worth people hearing, please share it. You know, I haven't been pushing that too much lately. But please do so I'd really appreciate the the signal boost. And if you like what I'm doing, you know, support the show on patriot patron dot com slash series pot or Sears dot com slash support. Either way works. So thank you so much and speak you soon.

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Goop on a Mountain (Children's books featuring Native American Women, Janet Jackson Appreciation Day, Superbowl, Liam Neeson, Fyre Festival)

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Goop on a Mountain (Children's books featuring Native American Women, Janet Jackson Appreciation Day, Superbowl, Liam Neeson, Fyre Festival)

"Welcome to minority coroner with an gay and James, the wonder twins Apolo casting. Learn laugh play. It's like blues. Clues only it's more black queer and lady lies. Minority corner. Hey, mama. What you doing? I am bringing us is another list of bookie Wookey. Yes. Those are popular good. Yeah. We're going to be tackling native American girls featured in children books on that is fantastic. I'm loving. I can't wait to get up it over in me. We're going to celebrate. Janet Jackson appreciation day. Might be taking a knee as we do it. Because apparently it's on the same day as the Super Bowl weird. Okay. You know what I'm not? I don't mind a little bit of taking a need to. Yeah. Taking somebody's always just controversial controversial. So just kind of want to unpack it where we are with the Super Bowl. What's going on with the NFL? What's going on? I've seen some help impact pacman again. Let's do it. I think we've got a lot of the things that we're going to be covering to you know, what's going on in Virginia with their governor ios, and what's going on with Powell truck. Yeah. Happened man we watch we vote watched a documentary or two about the band of major major vegetable who would have fine surprise. I got tickets. I hope you're ready to go. Now. Thank you. Let me get into. Do I know I felt like coming in strong with you to come in with some celebration a mad at that. I did I did. Man, I feel like there'd be confetti and the hand it's a grand celebration. And we're not telling them why you're not going to find out. Why we're celebrating this episode not a celebration. It's like it's black history month while I'm celebrating every single day every day. Oh, thanks for reminding me because do you know about what's her name? I just learned about her today on her bike history month because you really stuck in there. Her name was Mary. I mean, there's chance Mary something. And what he knew she was one of the first black female stage coaches to deliver the mail cool. I'm so we've got to during the break. She. She was like fierce with like a rifle because she 'cause it was dangerous times before trying to steal the mail back. Then people were let let me get that mail yet. Not to mention she's a black woman doing this shit too. I'm like that's some scary as shit. She's a bad ass. Yup. E- and she was like six foot, two shit wonder pound something other. She was to be reckon with coach Mary. That's her name. Come on. Citrus. Mary I literally just put the two and two together. Yeah. No. That's literally her name was Stade's coached Mary. Thank you that gay. Oh, you've heard of her you just he might stay in this entire time. Do you literally relaxed the stagecoach named Mary? So I was like stagecoach, Mary how come I couldn't figure out her name? See this is what you and I need to go on some sort of game show or something because we'll just put these puzzle pieces together. Did it? It wasn't even a puzzle tease. You literally for me. My name is Mary. She survived the Stade's codes just off the dribble it during the break. What sorry is. Well, whoever your future children are they are going to feel so smart uplifted from you. He's just. He's just. Really? We've got that too. When you have that. I know what equals four, but how do I get four? And maybe there's another to involve I'm not sure bet z. Betts v. Well, I need to look of states could because she sounds by jasmin fleece Jones as my first daughter's name. Yeah. And I I know this jasmine police Jones who get over here right now. And you saw this all. Your own conversation about Betsy and just the names. Yep. I forgot I ain't got no daughter named Betsy. But I drove out jasmine Felicia Jones, miss jazz move. Lisa jones. Wow. So I don't wanna be a bummer. But I gotta talk to you about some things that have been happening in the news. Oh, what happens is? I think I went into. I don't know what's been going on in the news except for. This is and that's a good thing to know. Because a lot of people on the Twitter's have been talking about we need to turn black history month often back on again because there have been some white man shenanigans that have been blowing up the spot. I saw a headline and he's even read it because they just couldn't handle it. But Bill Maher said something ridiculous on his show. Mar n were get. No. But that one time is enough is enough. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Bill Maher does that whole entire like he just tries to run the middle line, two months. And it's just like and don't like it either. He's enough so smug. Oh, God definition a smug. Okay. So for this. We have not my taken not don't take my taken. Okay. So Liam Neeson unsolicited said this. This is a story of two unsolicited stories that didn't need to happen. Liam Newt Niessen. Yes, he found out. So he was giving an interview for promoting a movie, and I don't know why he brought this up. I think it was like a trying to talk about a lesson of like, oh, this is how I learned to be more accepting. But it's so weird. He he found out that one of his family members of family friends. Somebody got raped by a black guy. I'm fortunate. Terrible. Rain. Yeah. Then he offers up the story of how a whole week he walked the streets of Ireland hoping quote, unquote, black bastard would step to him. So he could kill him interesting approach because they've you saw the one guy like, obviously, he did it or this is like revenge or see he's got revenge on the brain with those taken movies. I know so everybody's like what the fuck. Liam neeson. Yeah. That what what I think? It's like, I don't. Yeah. I'm not sure maybe I don't wanna be just or anything. But maybe he's lost in thought. He's just like getting like free with his verbal thoughts. I don't know. I don't know. I just fully offered up a platter of his own racism, and we never needed to know that you know, the thing is tuck deep away in the history files of Liam Nielsen. And then he was like, here's a fun fact about myself, I used to on a murder black people. But he's like, but look how things have changed. See that Seattle. I've changed. I don't walk around the streets of Ireland anymore trying to murder black people. What the fuck? So now, I can't support Liam Niessen anymore came. What sparked this like is there is there a movie he's doing green book two or something? Like what he's just he's doing some like revenge porn or something that he normally does men. I don't know why he had to bring that up even as co star who was being interviewed was like what the fuck Liam like set. This are black. No because it is. I think that why people like when they're around other black people they just fill this need to like confess things. And so maybe I thought that's what was happening. And he's they don't do that though too. Yeah. There was a priest of your racism. Well, I have we'll get some super Bruin. Liam Neeson's for me. I'm about to ruin the pow tro for you. Okay. Tell me what she did. She is being sued by this sheep ran into an older gentleman skiing up in Utah. And then my his account. She like. It's not funny. It's okay. Picture this. So she ran into him. And then like got up and like Tatler random tackled a got up, and then left didn't say anything. Oh, so she lifted scene. It was a hit and run. And there's like in where they were skiing. They've a stanch like courtesy like the goes against the rules of the mountain or something and boozy means so but anyways, like he's suing her for like two three million dollars three million dollars. 'cause it. Yeah. Well, he's claiming that it's he's always medical bills because of it now and he break him. What happen? He's like a sad and depressed and has anxiety ruined Gwinnett as much as LIAM's fucking racist rampage. I just keep imagining the way the tell the story that she just like hit. And then just dusted herself off just kept on going. I wouldn't be surprised. I ran over him. How to ski and was like. Thank you for minded me. 'cause the quote is that she was three king like gorilla when he. That she came barreling down the hill. Streaking like a guerilla ran into him. And then got up without saying this guy means to this guy is too much. He's seventy he's he's he wants his payday. Certainly was a regular person. He'd be like, whatever. But he did say that he's just wished that. She would have apologized. That's all he really wanted in two million dollars out because she didn't apologize. Let that be a lesson. Y'all. Better apologize. You'd better policy is when you come barreling down streaking like gorilla, my guy. Speaking of apologies. That's what the state of Virginia is looking for from their governor. Why would he do where was I don't even know you're missing the only news? I heard was about about streak like a gorilla on the slopes like that's. That's funny. I need your Twitter. Resting at I need better Twitter feeds so this guy Ralph Northam, he somebody dug up in his yearbook and found you know, like in yearbooks. You can like buy a page or whatever. And it's your page at the end. Oh, yeah. So he had a page in like nineteen Eighty-four whatever in on his page. This guy's a democrat. Just to go goes to show. I don't mean nothing on his page. There's a picture of someone wearing a klu Klux Klan outfit next to a person wearing black face. All you know, what I did see that had blocked it out, you sometimes those news facts, you're just like can't handle this today. Belinda. Here's the part that I wanted to talk about though. 'cause everybody was like you got to resign. You got to resign? He's like I'm not resigning. I don't want to resign. Because neither one of those people were me, but still there on your page. Many ways he offers this shit up during a press conference. He goes, no worse. It wasn't me in any of those pictures, but I have been known to do some black face. Oh when I impersonated Michael Jackson for talent competition and did the moon moonwalk. You didn't have to offer up the information. You actually could've just been like I wasn't in those photos, and I wanna pass this Bill reparations. That's all. That's it. Very simple and said he's like. Was this one time when I used to be. Racist. And I think these raises things, but I don't do them. Why? What's happening? I don't know. I don't know. Oh, wow. James? I don't I'm at a loss. I'm at a loss. Oh, well, piggybacking off of white fucker. And so yes, I would say predominantly white talk your e because there's some job rules involves so good. Here we go. I think I know where we're heading. I have you news for you saw some die have business for you. Okay. I got tickets to the next fire festival. Thanks, Neil wanna go. You don't want to come with me thinking. I'm not really a part of influence or cultures of second. I clearly not on the radar of anything because I honestly did not know anything about the fire festival. Stop this. James what world are you? Did you both of them? Or did you just watch one? I love the US. And so it's so fascinating. So I watched there's a two documentaries about the fire festival that came out like days apart from each other. There's when is growing through I got confused because I thought they were talking about the two different ones. One is Hulu in one is on Netflix. Hulu Gotcha moment. So they were like they didn't tell anybody about their documentary right into Netflix three days before they're like, okay? Here's ours. Yeah. Manny that flex how their release date, and they did it. Yeah. It was like three or four days beforehand. So on Hulu, you have fire fraud and then on on Netflix. You have fire, right? So many interesting takeaways was whole entire thing. It's easy. When she first start watching your and just because here's the thing. Most the people who went to the fire festival or involved in fire festival. Lotta white dudes. On a white dudes. And a lot of just like I in. So some engineers. like this rich kids, you're watching a lot of like rich kids debacle each other. Like, oh, God, we created this mess for other people who are similar to us spend part of us like, oh, it's hard to care. But then the real victims of this whole entire thing were the, but he means island who worked like for weeks and on end with little sleep. And we're almost all this money, and we're never paid for their work and mama. All I'm seeing visual representation of this is slavery that just happened. Great to black sign. It's bullshit. Yeah. And so your question is I'm gonna post a link to vulture did a article about which fire festival documentaries. Right for you. Both. I you watch them. Yeah. Don't mean to I watch both. Yeah. I watch them too. And I I watched the which one did you watch. I Hulu I wa. Ooh. This'll be interesting. I watch Netflix one. I. And I watched an ethics one first. And then I had I didn't realize what experiencing until I watched the Hulu one that I was experiencing foam. Oh because. I I was raising for more because I was like, well, what's the other one saying that this one minute? And so then I watched that's why the watching the other one see I feel like yeah. I liked watching the Hulu one before the number one. I it's a nice primer wouldn't. Yeah. That's it up with like what the climate of the country, and who the people are a little bit more than one. Yeah. And it's snappier Hulu is wasting Appier? Netflix is good because it gives you some antidotes where you're like. Whoa. There's so many like heads Slough, I literally slapped my hat for head so many times watching that net. Flicks. One of like, oh my God. I can't it's like watching a horror shit show. And I like the Hulu when is looking back on it was like, oh, I like this. Give me a nice primer and the net. Flicks. One goes in a little bit more because yes, they have all that footage of essentially, we'll show you more like how from the inside. It got put today because they have all this footage. And this is where both of them too. I think are very interesting because they both have what the fuck moments from behind the scenes. Yeah. Exactly the net. Flicks. What is produced by the this. Why why they was so much footage as because it was produced by the fuck Jerry producers who. Jerry media, guys. Who are they were the media company that ran the media campaigns for this fire festival that was promoting all the stuff that was going to be there? And none of it was there like an exactly so much fucking false advertisement. So they were along for the journey filming all this Stott. And then with the Hulu one gets dinged because while they have an interview with Billy McFarland who is the con man behind this whole entire thing. The the all the Griffin behind this whole thing interview, they had an interview with him. But they also paid in something like two hundred fifty thousand dollars. So again, just like rich continues. No. And he didn't say anything. Well, he doesn't come out looking rosy in either of them. Yeah. Absolutely. I think I had seen the net. Flicks the net flicks one really rakes him over the really takes in the town. They really go in for him. And so then I guess when I watched the Hulu one I was like I was so angry at him was like, I don't wanna hear it. You have to say, but. But you also see that I had to check that. Because you know, what I'm not judge jury and executioner and actually like I can listen to someone and still I I needed to check that for my own self like he was saying anything that was making them come out looking awesome. Very true. Very so. Yeah. I mean, I watched the Hulu one I and I was like fuck this guy yet. And then after watching that I watched the Netflix when I was like extra this guy. Yeah. Thoughts and opinions about job Royal, oh, God, what an idiot. He's the same. He's the same as Billy MacFarlane. He knew what he was getting into in the fact that he's trying to weasel out and say that he was scammed to is such a punk as like a hate it. I hate that. He just seems like a weasel to me. I mean. Yeah. And I I try to I always try to support black people and try to, but you know, when you Bill Cosby or Kelly it up. Got to let you God, man. And what I do think it's interesting, and it wasn't until I watched the Hulu won the the Hulu what I think really reveals that he did know what was going on like the Netflix. Skates around it a bit more. But the Hulu on the interviewed that guy the Bahamian guy. Who's like? Oh, yeah. John crew was like so this isn't going to work out is it. Yeah. Jal rule is equal parts of part of this whole shea. And I hate the fact that he's just trying to get out of it to me. He just is. He's he's slimy to know the whole whole Gervais. Going to say, yeah, what's the news? So you know in the net flicks. When there's the woman who owned the restaurant, I win I win and I went to try. So there's a woman who own side to jump in. I would try I went to go try to there's woman who was feeding all these people. She lost like fifty thousand dollars of her own money doing this one thing I went to that. And after I watched both those like, mentally try to donate to her go fund me, and I couldn't because it was already paid and done so way over like, I think one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars she got so dead. Dead. Well, I I, and then I was like, well, I know someone selling these my money so all those workers I'm going to link. So all those workers, it's about five hundred thousand dollars or something something ridiculous that they were not owed. I think paid up and there's a forget it's called the it was on the zoom island. I believe. Yeah. Exuma? Yeah. So they're six foundation. And so they're doing a go fund me campaign for them. So we'll link that as well. What I really did. Appreciate this was like reminded me of like, why do storytelling is should be able to activate people. And I was really kind of a really cool moment. I mean shitty that this happened. But, you know, some energy watch something here just like wish I could do something. And this is like the first time I was able to watch something immediately be able to take action. That's good. Really good. Yeah. Speaking of documentaries. Oh, yes. Well, I do wanna just one thing though. Okay. The net flicks one if you I would say watch both of them because then that flex one. You're gotta get the famous story of the guy who almost suck dick for the water. Well, I mean, I don't want. I didn't want to spoil it for sorry. I spoilt it's quite a job dropping story. I heard it. I knew that I was going to happen. But I just didn't know the logistics of it. And like everybody who is involved in this festival is fucking bananas. I think that guy's gonna get his own TV show. Now, look see just try to some dick. And you never know what you can get people just be willing. You don't even have to maybe. I, but I do those documentary really speaks volumes to I think it was a seemed like it was a good sort of like warning song to just this. I flake, you know, back in the eighties. The main villains around business were Wall Street people and like today, it's like tech industry people which I see that. Uh-huh. Which is why I think like, you know, I thought it was a very I didn't see it. Oh, no. I didn't see it. Did I see it man of where wants movie was lex Luther? And I didn't see it. Did I see X Luther is the villain to superman? I know, but they had the most recent one like I just the Isenberg and my making him up man of steel. Yes. So he was a tech. He was like a tech guy. 'cause I was like who would like Luther be in today's world. And I just. Always always kind of stocked with me. And I think it should be this movie this event to serve as a huge warning signal to. People who are Li as if you have a business, and you're creating a service that what are you really giving to these people and even like myself as an entrepreneur to make sure that like I'm giving people a good service of whatever it is that I'm giving to them. And I think it was like I it was it speaks volumes. Have just like where we are in this moment of, you know, even just understanding like now like, you know, if you're an influence early. I think the new rules and regulations being in place of I let you know. It's an advertisement, you know, like at certain things like that of just like I such a hopefully a huge learning lesson for folks. And also like all those people with a lot of money. I hope you're also like donating to all like charities and organizations because y'all we're spending like five hundred dollars to go on this island for four days to like be like Pablo Escobar who murdered a bunch of people. Like, I hope you're being of service and giving back to the world in some ways with all this money that you have. Raim into that. You know, what these documentaries have definitely been like a cultural zeitgeist for the past couple of weeks. So I'm sure if you haven't seen it definitely watch it because it's an interesting thing. You're going to talk about documentary price off back to these. Yes. Yes. So I feel like a documentary that has been slowly growing in steam might be looked over. Okay. And I think once you're done watching fire festival and seeing all that controversy in you were intrigued by that avion, dick, sucking antidote. You know? I was I think you should watch the documentary called -ducted in plain sight. Oh, it's on Netflix. Okay. Yeah. It is about human trafficking. No, oh, it's about this guy in. I don't even wanna get into it. Because I don't want to spoil it because it wasn't spoiled for means spoil don't you spoil this spoil free zone. Just basically know that there's a guy who abducted girl twice from the same family. Oh, but this shit is why don't I was watching it. And I had to posit continuously to yellow Andrew and. Like this. This is what's happening. Why this is what's happening? This is what's happening. What is happening? It makes. No, God damn sense. You're gonna watch it. And you're going to be like what I have so many questions by don't want to answer ask questions. I don't want to be spoiled for me or the listeners. I'm just gonna leave that to you guys and let you know that objected in plain sight takes you on the most wild ass. You think you're watching and it's done Jala, basic. You're like this is like some budget ask documentary. But then the things that these people are saying oh. Oh, this is going to be like oh child abductor objections story, pervert, whatever twenty twenty investigation. And then you meet the parents. And with the parents are saying and you're like. Why? How he like objected this girl, your what was just like, hey, here's the keys to my house. And she was like, okay stranger than you, can even I can't Janka right now by immagination couldn't even keep up with how this I really want to just walk you through it. But I can't because I know that you liked the documentary, and I love I love a surprise. I love a surprise. And you love a ride and you're going to get that with inducted in plain sight. Like, it's bananas. Like, I can't even like some of the things that happened in the documentary. I'm dislike. Did that really what how do that? I could still see the wheels. You guys can't see. But the wheels on the neck as head are still turning like she's still trying to figure out. How did this happen? I don't I don't know, man. I don't know. There's there are several moments where you're like, what am I watching? Okay. Well, that's gonna tune in and figure that and see that one up to that. Because you know, how that feeling when you're listening to the guy slowly talk about how? Billy Farland was like you're going to have to take one for the team. And you're gonna have to your the gay leader. And the guys like, okay, I'm the gala leader. I gotta suck. This guy's dick. You're just like what then. Yeah. Exactly. Instead of him being like, no fuck you leave me alone. He's like, no. I I went to my apartment, I got cleaned up put mouthwash, and you like what what are you doing? This festival is not worth that. There's so many moments. It was like y'all should have stopped like a mirror. Out. Civil and that'd be a whole different story. So, thankfully, no one had died. Before we get to the main events two things. One cancer is back in theaters y'all black history month three I keep seeing that it's like a fake story or real story. I heard. I heard I thought I saw some this a fever dream of ngelo Bassett saying something about it. But she had actually been saying something about kill monger coming back into Black Panther to tell a died. You're not well complicates come back. All the time. So I know and he was such a fan favourite like he's one of the best films of the have. It's alright she's e though I love the study guide, and it was so poetic where he was like, you know, like, my ancestors through, you know, I think Angela Bassett was like, well, you didn't see him getting that water. Oh god. She knows how working system she's an she's like, you know, what I'm produce on non one. I'm right this shit trip. I got this. Speaking of amazing black things though, I'm going to the BT premier a little TV show produced by Halle Berry, called boomerang. A TV show version of boomerang. Yes. It's produced with Halle Berry, and what's her name black lesbian writer on on ways? Yes. They are producing this together. Yeah. Friends from the Manhattan and Democrats the black ones. Obviously had extra tickets, and I'm going. This car just be like a balloon pump pumping. This is exciting. I know boomerang. It's a movie that just keeps like the, title boomerang in and out of my life 'cause going back. I was watching like at three o'clock in the morning on my cousin's house in DC never fully had seen all of it was the movie when I was a kid like yes everybody ever seen. It wasn't like mom and dad wasn't going date night on a sexy black movies actually black movie the nineties where they used to do like they used to do a lot of those sexy black movies genre. That's going to TV now back to t- turn into TV show. John ryan. Yeah. That's that's just the updates. I'll have awesome updates for that later. I'm excited to hear about how that went down sounds really cool. But shall we kick it off into your Kona? Yes, we're going to go into my corner. I am going to give you guys what the audience wants another book list, and this as I know you're leading into it. But this is what the audience wants us snaps to one of our. Listeners who has put together a list, especially of your money list Ecoles. So it's like a Russian guy. Yeah. Yeah. My god. That's dedication, Jesus. Now. So another get get that spreadsheet ready. Some working book lists. Not all heroes wear capes, some heroes watch war movies and then review them. Friendly fire is a war movie podcast for people who don't necessarily like war movies. Although it does not exclude people who love war movies. I'll have you know, that I am wearing a Cape Mike is just made of sound deadening material from an audio recording studio. It's a really great show. John's daughter doesn't like it because we sometimes say swear words on it. But almost everybody else that has ever listened to it has enjoyed the program. Download and subscribe to friendly fire wherever you get your podcasts to the Victor go. The spoiler alerts. Okay. So did some digging in the this is from the minority corner. Kids playgrounds, if you're not already in this is the place to be because y'all are now's the time doing it up. So Aaron C had asked is there, a consolidated list somewhere of all of a neck as books and recommendations, and Chelsea as came in with like just the bat signal was founded, you'll see us was like do you need a list of the list and has posted a link to adopt that they have created. So that's really dope. And check it out. It's amazing. I want to take them because there's a lot of stuff and Maggie you were approved for the group. Yeah. You just just just literally people getting approved every moment. So you get the live. Approval. Well, this week we are going to be talking about offend a cool list of it's called forties children's books. Celebrating native American indigenous mighty girls love in this is by the website a mighty girl, which is a great website. Just to check out if you have kids in your life. If you are an educator. You know, this is and I notice how I said kids because you know, I don't like the idea of oh. Oh, black books for black kids, obviously. But all kids benefit, you know, young boys girls, non gender, conforming kids. This is a good way to just exposure kids to any to everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely. I we're gonna live up to this. You know, melting pot or salad bowl thing. We got earned that by, you know, letting people learn about other folks. Hello, I'm gonna side. I this list though, because I do I do a little side. I everyone which is good to do. You know, what your own research is not above a little side. This list has a lot of books that cover soccer, Julian Pocahontas. Okay. There were more. I'm pretty sure there were more. Oh and his other book of Pocahontas? So while I fully celebrate Sokoge away and fully celebrate Pocahontas Hokkaido. I'm not going to shut out these books. Camman? There's other people other folks and other stories poco sire girl, but you've got enough. I mean, come on lake. Let's let's mix it up just around this other riverbed in check out some other books. Yes. Okay. So the first book that I'm gonna give you recommendation to is it's called red bird. Sings the story as it colossi native American author musician in activists zoo, pretty cool, right? Yeah. It's written by Q L Pearson. Gina couple couple Leany in its illustrated by Gina Kappa Leany. So basically the description says that one of the most important of American we reformers of the early twentieth century was Gertrude Simmons also known by her gang ton soon. Name 's it colossi, she found strength during her time at a residential school for an unexpected source music classes the. Story of zip kala SaaS. Learn new ways to sing both through playing the violin and the piano in through her many, writings and speeches in support a preserving native, American rights, and culture. So there's a lot of things that you could kind of read between the lines of this. I so apparently zig spent time at a residential school. Let's just call a spate of what it is. She probably was sent to one of those. Re cultural schools that native Americans were sent to in both America in Canada. Yeah. Which is fucked up anything that we need to knowledge when you reading this to kids always remember to kind of fill in the blanks when there is some glossing over which I think is important to to like not sugar. I think kids are smart and not to sugar coat it. And just like, hey, this is the history. And this is the thing that happened. And I think that we spent so much time trying to shelter. You know, something about anything. There's a way to honestly tell the truth of history. So that way, we can you know, they do it in Germany with all the cost. No kids. I mean kids. Gotta learn kids. Gotta learn we'd be saying that in a lot of these have age recommendations, but I'm not going to give Dreckman Dacians because I think that if you read your kids books. No matter the time, it's a good experience aging. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. There's another one called who is Maria tall chief who is writing. She it is written by Catherine gory. So it goes this engaging and accessible biography tells the story of the osage girl who moved beyond culture and tradition to become America's first major prima ballerina. Oh, I know although a SaaS tradition does not allow girls and women to dance tall chief showed gifts for dancing music at an early age after choosing to focus on ballet, she attracted the attention of choreographer George Balanchine in with the help of balancing in her support a family. She would eventually reach the top of our art form, in fact, balancings famous choreography for the Firebird was created for Firebird is a famous ask ballet, so cool new hub is indigenous roots that's super special. I love that. So that is called who is Maria tall chief? And you're about to find that when you read that book was she also achieve. No, okay. That's just her last night. I was like damn she busy. She's like, I'm dance annum achieve you. Do it all just her name? So here's another book called marooned in the Arctic. The true story of ADA blackjack the female Robinson Caruso who socal already. I'm like intrigued. It is written by Peggy caravan has so it says in nineteen twenty one four white men in one anyway woman traveled to the wrangle islands in northern Siberia. The men's goal was to claim the island for Great Britain. But the woman ADA blackjack just wanted to earn money to take care of her. Sick son conditions quickly became dire. And after three men left in the remaining man died blackjack spent nearly two years alone on the island, trapping foxes. Catching seals and avoiding polo beers. That what this sounds. I want to see that movie. Like why isn't that? What was that one that the revenue? Yes. I want to see this. This sounds fucking amazing. Also reminds me of anything this makes sense. This was in Siberia, Siberia is on the the European Asian continent. So that there were digits people up there as well. Yes. I did not know that until just now. Okay. I love this podcast or k I just. On Lavenham playing. Okay. Hell, yeah. So also, I want to point out that I liked that they called her and any women that is the what you that is the real name of the eskimo tribe. I was wondering when you said that it was like, okay. And then clarifying since you're some other people have the same sort of bull. I think eskimo was actually like given by like, oh eskimos actually don't call them that come anyway. This sounds fucking amazing two years a lung like why would she left alone? I have so many questions men leave her alone. She was two years away. She had to come back to her six, son. Like, this is a movie we need. Yeah. And almost reminds me of the plot that one about the mice members that one with the the mother she's trying to like save her children. There's the secret of nimh moves secretive Nim. Oh, oh, late the rats of nimh. Yeah. The rats of them just because she had that sick child. Okay. I was sort of. Okay. In the colony, and but I just wanted. Maybe some implode about the story, and they were inspire. They were like, you know, what I'm gonna tell the story, but with his mice in the tree. I don't know it made me I'm going to give you that stretch Inc. Yes. Because you're my friend. Okay. So here's another book. This is buffalo bird girl. SD Nielsen on into it. Okay. So this fascinating picture book biography of the hid this God. High debt saw woman buffalo bird woman who was born around eighteen thirty nine two picks a life in a hit at sigh of village, Nelson used the life story of buffalo bird woman as transcribed in the early twentieth. Century to capture the spirit of what she was like as a child. However, this book also celebrates the now lost way of life since the hid deci rely more on agriculture than on game. The story provides a contrast to the stereotypical image of woodland hunters in their tribal life. I like that. Because a lot of times when people think about native American culture, they they base it purely on kind of the central plains native Americans of of of the. United States, which is valid. But we forget that there are hundreds of thousands of different tribes each of their own culture tradition landscape. You know, so let's diversify our outlook of the indigenous people of America. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This one's called crossing BOK Chito, a Choctaw hotel of friendship in freedom. It is by Tim tingle in. It is written by Jean Rex bridges. So since both African Americans and native Americans face racial discrimination. There are occasions when they worked together to avoid persecution or violence in Mississippi in the eighteen hundreds the buck Chitose river marks the divide between Choctaw territory in the plantations of white settlers when Martha Choctaw girl crosses the river. She befriends the slaves on a nearby plantation. When one slave family learns that their mother is going to be sold. Martha knows just what to do get the whole family across the river to Choctaw land where they can be free. This gripping story written by an award-winning. Choctaw storyteller is perfect for reading aloud while I love that story because has many different stories of time that are happening there. Yeah. There's a lot of layers that story of just like again like here's history in. Here's what's happening. Here's what loving. Loving. I feel like there needs to be more stories about the intersection cultures especially with blackened native American culture because there's a lot of that. There's the. God I'm playing enough. Yes. No. I'm thinking of in in in the south. I don't think it's Florida. But there's the. Oh, we should probably cut this out. Witty. Cut off the thinking pause yet. But there's there's a combination of black and native American that have created a culture of these beautiful feathered costumes, and they do like great dancing. I wanna say it's in Louisiana. I yeah. But there is like I think again, my a few different ones because I know that we've talked about this podcast to I forget the name of the tribe. But there was a tribe that had formed down in Florida. Between black and indigenous people that held off against the I want to say confetti white man army. I don't know which side it was, but it was white as army, and they had revolted informed and allegiance together. Oh, wow. Cool. See this stuff is. So fascinating to me. Which again, like it's like there's so many stories. I mean, we talk about all in time. But it's like, okay. We don't need to see another civil war movie. Well, there was like so many other stories to tell right. Exactly. So I'm gonna give maybe let's do two more, given, you know. Okay. So this one is called. I am not a number is written by Jenny kae Duprey in Kathy case hurts illustrated by Jillian Neuland when the Canadian government removes Irene in her siblings from their home on nip sing first nation. The children are forced to attend a boarding school miles away. See like what I was talking about. Yup. Yup. There. Irene's hair is cut, and she is told that the names are not allowed and that instead she is number seven hundred fifty nine oh Irene refuses to give up everything that she is. She is now. She knows that she will always be Irene. And when she and her siblings return home for the summer. Her family is resolved. They will not return to school. No matter what based on author k Jenny k Dupree's grandmothers. Experience this powerful picture book for older readers is difficult. But unimportant read back matter includes more detail about the residential schooling system in about the truth and reconciliation report of twenty fifteen. So this is a good one to pair with the book that I talked about before redbird sings the true story of collar saw young because it actually talks about what happens in schools. Yeah. But also kind of like to is it gives some honest historical side, I to Canada, I think very often we can be like Canada. Oh, it's so perfect. And like it has a history to and it's still dealing with things as well over there. And exactly it's important to you. Get the side. I around the side, I around the globe. K it's how we're gonna eat, man. So we can bring us all together to everyone's got some side. I I mean, there's nothing wrong. Given a little side keeps people in Chan. Okay. So I wanted to end with this one because it's called berry. Magic. Ooh. You know, I love magic and berries. So thank you for this game. Very mad. My gosh. Written by Betty huff. Mom, I want to remind on bare. Imagine hate bury magic gonna give him some of the berry magic. You. Don't try. So it's illustrated by Terry Sloat. And so here's the right up longtime ago, the only berries to collect on the tundra were hard tasteless crow, berries, so young and then aunt. A N A N A. Hey, Anna, and then. Yeah. An- Anna, this is decides to try a spell Neta I at a sukey Nana, which is translated to berry berry be a Barry. She sings transforming four dollars into little girls at run across the tundra creating patches of delicious, blueberries, cranberries, salmon, berries and raspberries. Now, there will be an unexpected treat for the fall festival in the special Ed to cook ice cream. Yupik elder Huffman shares and exciting lively version of this tale for slow to illustrate and the book even finishes with its own recipe for making quick at all ios island. Buying of a book that gives me like talk about food, and then gives me the recipe. So I can make that food. I used to be. I used to be so it'd be like reading these books, and they'd be like more eating this delicious food, and I'm like, how do I make it? I want to eat that. I know of this book. I love that give me that berry magic. Hell. Yeah. So I thought that that would be fun. So definitely check out. This list will link the list to the show notes. There's a ton of other books, I focused more at the beginning where it's kinda historical fiction, but it goes into more magical whimsical magical whimsical, and then also some like modern delay. And then, you know, just some great experiences of girls. Native American and indigenous girls that you can share with, you know, the children in your life yourself, if you want to something simple to read beautiful illustrations, and we'll what I think is so nice about this story is again, like if the children are futures that song things, and I do I do I do believe that children are future lead them. Right. And something something I don't remember the best. They can. Yeah. They'll do the best. They can. The words. I like it. But what I like is that like again like I think that one day. I believe that. I believe that Christopher Columbus day will not be any more. It'll be you know, digits people's exactly they think like when you get these stories into, you know, the these young children's minds that grow up understanding our history. And so when those bills are presented or they lead the charge. Just it just helps. So yes. Yes. Plant those seeds early. A men to that. So share that out in look look for that spreadsheet because that's fucking awesome to create and that guys. Thank you Chelsea us. Hi, I'm Beth, and I'm Teresa, and we host one bad mother a comedy podcast about parenting. Whether you are a parent or just no kids exists in the world. Join us each week as we honestly share what it's like to be a parent. I'm just going to end with everybody your doing a remarkable job of swimming through the shit show lettuce parenting. So join us each week as we judge less laugh, more and remind you that you are doing a great job. Find us on maximum fund dot org on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The. Omis yuma. Okay. I was like. We go. I really miss you much gather, but gamma babe. Okay. So you know, the Sunday was Jan Jackson appreciation day. Or some of you may be no it as I think it's called Super Bowl. But for me, definitely call Janet Jackson appreciation day this. I just doing this sort of like, let's talk about the Super Bowl sort of. But yeah, I do me neither and I will first of all an honor of black history month. I wanted to acknowledge Fritz polar d- and Bobby Marshall who were the first black players. What is now known as the NFL in nineteen twenty. Yeah. And polar became the first until nineteen eighty nine and only black coach in nineteen twenty one. How jam? Yeah. So I just wanted to give them props in that. And like it's interesting because you look at the back, then they were the first ones. And now the NFL's made up of seventy percent black people, right? Not owners though, which speaks volumes. He had. So I guess it was like there's just some things that I wanted to sort of, you know, touch base on about like, it's a very, it's very complicated. I think what's happening right now, the NFL, I think it's it's and I am trying to wrap my head around in a not trying to demonize anybody who does watch like the Super Bowl by do wanna like have a good conversation just to remind like, what's at stake. What's happening? Why are people upset? You know, Colin Kaepernick. This definitely so many time which is why like I kind of just jump right in and gives a refresher. Yeah. Yeah. Because we're talking about so much. It's not going away. And I feel like the Super Bowl just happened. So it's a nice sort of reflection of like what what what does happen? I love remind the people remind the people's I mean, essentially a man lost his job for standing up for using his first amendment, right? And so thank you for clarifying it in simple terms. So people in the back understand. And that's what like I don't understand. Like, I feel like Republicans are very conservative. People tend to be very strict constitutionalists, and are all for like, you know, the Bill of rights, and so it's like, I don't understand it feel like everyone, regardless of like how you feel about the issue someone using the first amendment right like whether or not you agree with them or not like the lost their job. And so I I don't I feel like. You know, I guess I'm surprised that like, and I think it's easy for in some ways I do recognize. I don't I'm not a huge huge football fan. I did catch myself because I was at the grocery store, and I was trying to the chips and the chips and guacamole lady was out. Try some of this. Mind if I do, and she's like, you can get it for your Super Bowl party this weekend, while I haven't I kind of had I had a brain for was like, oh, yeah. I wanna eat some not nachos out, my friends, and I watch football. And I was like, wait a minute. No. So I had to take. I enjoy the festivities of eating and drinking. Yeah. It is. Yeah. And I guess like I feel like it's such a it was an opportunity for, you know, us, I think socially, you know, black folks. And just I think people around the nation to really all we have to do is like not tune into something. And I I understand that some people that like they really wanted to tune in and some people protests and in different ways. But it did seem like this was an opportunity for us. I think just because it's like someone lost their jobs standing up for something. You know? And it sort of gosh. Like, I I guess put the thing that I may look back in history. And like, maybe not everybody was, you know, down with the Montgomery bus boycott. You know, there must be like I'm on. Well, no, I'm a ride this bus. I it just feels like a bit of a missed opportunity moment. It's rough. I mean, I can't really say anything too because I've never really been football watcher. So it's for me to boy cut because I just I I'm not invested at you know, it's stuff. If you think if the same thing happened to I know you're a warriors fan. So the same thing happens like Stephan curry, and he was thrown out of the game and wasn't given a contract, and it's hard to say because it's not happening that you would I see that would be a bigger conversation for me. Because that definitely is something would even have to be something sports to me. I'm on. I'm whatever let's just beyond. Okay. It'd be like something it was wild house y. Lives were comparable think it's hard to find something like that. Because it's like where does your your loyalty lie? And I think a lot of people. It's also the fact of it just looks because. I feel like a lot of people boycott. And then they feel like their boycott isn't doing anything when actual it is. You know, people are looking at ratings people are looking the reason why Super Bowl commercials are so valuables because so many people are watching. So the point of a boycott would be to decrease the where the money is. And that is the people watching, but it's so ingrained into our culture. Like, literally football is a is a war surrogate. That's the reason why football became popular is because young men didn't have a word ago too. So they needed a battleground which turned into football, which turned into a spectator sport, which turned into what it is right now long story short, which is why a lot of military vibes are fed into football. Like, you notice like a lot of times it sponsored by the military. A lot of times commercials are played for the military or during the football. So it's really bore its way into the American culture more than anything else. Has which makes sense? Why racism is playing a huge part in it as well. So I it's easy for me to boycott. But there are other things that I would have to probably myself take pause. If I were asked to boycott them like, for example, shea moisture that is a hair brand that people were calling for boycotting. Why I have because my shame moisture right here. Yeah. You're showing me so good. This is a good indication people cutting it because the owner was using when the owner went mainstream just use me on word. No god. I've always had to come out that there's no owner who is using the. Owners. Okay, he could use. But he didn't he basically whitewashed the ad campaign. Using come like white ladies talking about their hair journey, which is a very black natural hair movement thing to say like using all the lingo. So a lot of people were upset that when. Shea moisture went mainstream. They went white in uplifting. Black people in black women who have basically brought them to this level by spending their money on it and black men to clearly you showed me your hair milk. So, but you know, what I mean? So we're calling a boycott of them. But that's a harder thing. The boycott. Because also, I think I plot it because it's like, you know, I think it's hard to find the comparison because you know, it's again because you look at the protests like no one's job was lost in a sense for standing up for a right? You know? So it's like it's sort of more so social politics as opposed to like, I don't there's something. I do appreciate the finding the connection. I do Tillerson what you're saying. But it seems like I think I'm very I'm very blessed that like there's not a lot of things I find that the end of the day that I have to boycott because a lot of the comedians artists that I like tend to not be problematic. So it's really easy for me to like it was really easy for me to our Kelly on Spotify. Because you know, what I was wondering what the big fan on our Kelly anyways. I sat it what I believe I can fly as tired and ignition. I could do without it. I and like and also like I like Louis C K. I wasn't a big fan of him. And it really know any of his stuff, I really don't know any of his comedian. So it's easy for me to like, but not really been challenged with that thing that it's like where do you stand on this issue? But I do want to circle back to them. And you did talk about the I think like you're saying it's money talks and and buying ads things like that. I just think like what a huge movement that could've been. I mean, if us as a community, especially black people or just an allies around the just didn't watch the Super Bowl this year. It would have taken such a huge hit and would have had. There's so many conversations. I think that that is calling cabinet thing is opening up about like, the NFL general's is really fucked up organization and place, and it gets like it gets. It's gets. I think it's a not for profit tax exemption. We talked about before like the cheerleaders. How they barely make any money on like there there some of them that my hours of their working. It was way below minimum wage there's super rules that like if they're at a restaurant and football player comes in. They have to leave the restaurant like they cheerleaders hops through that. They can't you know, be around them or anything like that. I the like you said the the lack of you know, black managers as well. And it just is like so much prog. Facing off of these black bodies. It's a such and the concussions concussions that were happening. They were they were knowing that these men were being put in danger of a Faulk because they were making money off of it. Like, it's such an organization that really demands a gutter all like inspection. I feel like I think operas Americans should demand better from this organization that is a billion dollar fucking industry. Yeah. Which is why it's going to be hard to stand up to that. You know? So I also I think a lot of it is. There. There hasn't been maybe because of how much money they have the they can suppress it. But there hasn't been that constant stream of outspokenness too. Which is why I think that there was a little bit of lost. Momentum this season. I am very proud of a lot of the musical artists. That vary helplessly turned down at the Super Bowl. I think that the that Rana Jay Z Cardi B, I'm pink. I'm right there with you. Really? Appreciate that. I in on. I you know, I didn't watch it. But also like some earn five some ruined five took the gay. And what am I came home? I suppose that performance I saw pictures, and how am I gonna explain that Mel nipple to my nephew? Oh, yeah. I saw that go to explain that male. He ripped off his shirt, and they're just was male nipple on the three and my nephew. He's one and very impressionable. What does he how do I explain that? I just think a stupid laying it just like the joke of it. You know, Janet. No loss. And you know, what someone brought a really good point. You actually never see Janet's nipple little Doyle leave. Metting around her never. And also who cares about nipples like calm. The fuck down nipples feed babies babies CPAP ABC nipples in boobs all the time. So who the fuck protecting adults? So it's dumb, and it just goes to show the fucking link that black women have to go through to just like be a performer and being normal lake. Fuck you less move as. Yeah. Who was out to get her joy torture there? I guess I would have been like a really cool. I would have been since I just like looking for that solidarity moment of like how dope it would have been. If like, everyone, the music industry is like, no, we're not gonna perform, you know. And it sends it sort of sentence that sends a message and. It just seems like sometimes folks wanting to India maroon five the last, you know, some of their hits they've been working with, you know, black artists just like you say that you respect people, but then your actions speak louder than. Lot Donnie Wahlberg overly. Yeah. CBS blue bloods. Yeah. You saying a lot about the NFL in maroon five in all of this stuff that happened during the Super Bowl. So I really, you know, some people are coming out of the woodwork that you wouldn't expect you come out. And I don't I like maroon five doesn't surprise me because they're fucking cheesy. Grab money ban. Let's the prize. Yeah. That's that's a huge surprise. You know, that's a huge huge surprise Yuccas. Maroon five like people like holiday still around because they're like, they see the money, and they're like, let me go grab this. And like though there you don't really get like you don't really make a lot of money from performing at the Super Bowl. It's really budget by you, definitely get a surge and just publ amazing publicity for yourself people then start downloading your songs like member that young. I wouldn't Katy Perry performed. There was young new artists. Missy elliott. Yeah. She started her career. Yeah. Lucky her getting to death next that fucking shark Buchan kids. She says. Do your research before you today. You know, I will I her and I do not agree on the subject because I again am. Okay. I like I'm not against Colin Kapp cabernet kneeling. I understand why he's kneeling I support his kneeling. So Meghan McCain on the beauts, Doug. But wait before you before we roll your eyes. So her this. I would I appreciate it this, and this is important for us to be able to come to the table to have a conversation because her and I do not agree like, she don't agree, but she suggested this until the sexually brilliant. She said before the she's like, this is a political the NFL's trying not to political. But you can't not like the it's that if was always a political place where things are happening, and she said before the game, there should have been a discussion, you could have had three people on one side people on another side. Emmy, let con copper Nick beforehand on the on ESPN having a conversation of like, this is what's happening. And I felt like yeah. That's actually a really great way to kick off kickoff the game. And just getting I think we need to be in a space of having these conversations. Decides to getting into the same space, and I really I really appreciated that the modem in a dope way to kick off the game. And it would have it would have been a whole different experience. I feel I think discussion is always welcomed in certain parts as long as it's civil. And it makes a lot of sense. You know? No, absolutely. Yeah. Well, I just wanted to sort of unpack some of that. I I even have people in my family. I haven't figured out how to broach this I don't understand how folks and a lot of people are still watching the Super Bowl. I don't get it. I don't I guess I just. I just wish there was more solidarity. I get it to a certain degree understanding actually linked to articles. That are very interesting. I really appreciate the root dies. There's there's two writers on the route. And they both like one Steven A Crockett who I've references articles before he is very much against like the NFL on issues boycott of the NFL impacts. He calls the call the Super Bowl, the clashing of the overpaid slaves. And then on the other end you've got Jason Johnson who he talks about. He's like, you know, what I watched. I watched the Super Bowl, and he enlisted out of his reasons why interesting, and it's really they're really really interesting read. So it's like I do understand. It's not that. I don't understand it just like I have a wish that we could all just would have you know, what for this one day. We're gonna we're going to not going to tune out, and it's gonna it's gonna hit them in their pocketbooks. You hit someone in their pocketbooks. That's how you get change happening. He acquainted it saying that you know, he said I watched the I watched because at the end of the day. I didn't care. I just didn't care to make the NFL the place where I expressed my resistance to those pervasive elements of American history. And then he said watching the NFL for me is more like eating me or buying sneakers or watching porn you rationalize the individual pleasure. You get out of it. While knowing full well that you're contributing to a system that is built on 'exploitation interesting. I thought that kind of summed it up because I'm pretty sure there's like I'm still eating me. Even though I know that there's probably like I'm trying to win myself off of it. So it was like, okay. And he even talks about the article that he's cut back on his NFL involvement. And I think a lot of people kind of have like there have been watching as much or they didn't participate in the NFL like fantasy sports games or things like they would normally. Yeah. No. That's interesting. I think it brings up a good debate on on protesting in where you live on that. I would be interesting. I'm glad you're linking those articles. That'd be really good Lincoln. I love to it's a same. Same website, two different viewpoints. Which I really. Doing doing good work. Yeah. Moon right while that's it. Ready set play ball. Okay. 'nother episode, boom, you know, those where it is. No. What are they confetti cannons? Kids for you. And they're all the colors 'cause I don't want say the, you know, baby, collars, pink, collars, or green colors. All the collars. I'm leaving say let me say it. I'm going to be going away you guys, but noth- forever, boom. I will be back. 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After The Show 581: Cold Pursuit Podcast

After The Show Movie Podcast

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After The Show 581: Cold Pursuit Podcast

"The. You're listening to the after the show movie podcast from ace co dot com. Confined this podcast on the I choose music still Google play. You choose voice assistance. Just say listen to the show, maybe poke cast, and you can also find as an ace Galeta come where we post written reviews without the way area hosts. Hey, Scully and sits. Hello. The long term. Yeah. It's a very whole. If you have any if you do which you shouldn't, but you might some weird noises in the background like like a child, making noise or dog back in real ways. Children as because we have the window open and the care, hopefully. Well, they might if the grad John's on all the care that we're hot. Because eighty seven in this room does they were not going to some might say, webpage Dejan on your air conditioner. We need to give it a quick service, and I say it's not really been that hot that long. So we'll buy we will. That was before the after the show discussion it was you talking about hot. You are. I was talking about actually talking about this movie. I little bit little bit about figured we'd carry that on then into the rest of the discussion. Anyway this, because this post is coming too late. Why is it coming too late? Why is it commonly was near last week because I went to my nephews college. Graduation, congratulations, some laude very proud very proud. And he's the kinda guy who's taken like. Advanced mathematics and Latin and ancient Greek and Iraq cast stuff. So I never was able to help him with his homework, that's for sure in high school or in go. So this week, we will have to focus right now just have the one from last week. And then Saturday this week this one. I'm gonna post this thinking it. It's this one's from last week. And then Saturday will be neural immediately after we finish this one's going up. All right. So is the Polk cast that will be coming to you from the weekend of Saudi may the eleventh after the show, five hundred eighty one or a movie review podcast. We'll review some movies, and this way, we're going to be reviewing the movie cold pursuit. Sue twenty eighteen movie so unfo- k Blu Ray digital now from our friends at lionsgate's. Rated R says on the cover a darkly comedic throw ride kind of agree in read that I know so sits the synopsis of coal pursuit taken by now. Yeah. Or what's other one? It's Liam Niessen special skills. Women defined the mess. Such in this movie special schools in this movie. I e comply good road. It snowed of late taken mixed with grey mixed with Fargo, it, you're saying and yeah Fargo TV Fargo movie, I'll combined now. All right. So let's onto this movie coal pursuit. If you look at the Cova for coal pursuit, you aware of Liam Neeson's later, works, since taken is many movie where he's a man and something happens. And then he gets revenge, right? I mean we've seen it along. On. That's what I thought this is it is that, right? Are we going to big? Spoiler. So we might let's expose the foil. So go and say this movie we I think we both kinda liked it. Yeah. I liked it. So go and sit on our recommendation and then come back. We'll talk about not recommending it. I'm just saying I liked. So what liked about it is this it starts off. And you think you know exactly what you're going to get. It's like that one, we just saw with him in a train. You know, something happens. Yeah. He's gonna kick everybody's ass. He's Liam Nason. It's like taken actually I thought he's wife was gonna get getting up to the beginning, all something like that close very somber, because he said, when it started per, not a good idea to be nieces wife in a movie. And you were also very dark about it and said, or in life. Because unsettling his wife to diamond years, go, but and then, as the movie progresses, I said or one of his children. Spoiler. So, yeah. One of these children. Joe's gets taken, actually, those kids, I can it. During them like oh, yeah. Here we go. So it's kinda like tone is different. It's different set of circumstances, different types different skills. Similar, but different. Yeah. Or so what, what is really different though? And I didn't expect that's all because I didn't even read the governor, it says a dad, we comedic throw. Right. I didn't know I'd like a like a phony tone to it. I actually thought it was going to be playing it serious taken does. So it started to play out on it didn't at first, it just felt like a regular Lisa movie. Like those first three very briefly. Yeah. And then you didn't start noise in some old dialogue and some quirky characters. And it kind of goes from that. And I said to you, there's a movie called smoking aces. Remember that there was actually a sequel to it as well. Jason Bateman dress at than a rabbit outfit. Yes, I'm not had the same. It was like people getting killed really violently. But then the next minute you laughing, because something ridiculous and silly, it's like, everyone's sort of accepted the horrible. Darkness, and sort of living it up at the same time. I'm this, I hate to say it like we don't like to compacting exactly. But it does borrow a lot from Fargo. I mean from all of ago, but this is also we forgot to mention this is actually the same director writer wrote another movie region movie. He's Norwegian, he made that movie. This is that a remake movie is not a remain. It is an updated version. What do they call it an uptake and adept patient? So the same guy made his same movie twice with the same overall premise. But. Slight differences. Yeah. You read the synopsis of the of the no agent. Version is pretty much the same story might Norwegian has a vegan drug Lord this whereas this one has a wheel CD guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's not vegan because he wants to give the kid meet two. Yes. So, yeah. What he's OCD. So they did change some things. We haven't seen that original movie. But from reading the synopsis it's this movie pretty much. Yeah. Probably with a smaller budget. And you know, it's like cabinet in the woods that guy remade, his own movie, and he did remake it. That was not like a what Adam Tate, hop in fever. You have fever. Yes. Not Kim via literally just make say movie. Yeah. And that wasn't big improve. It wasn't like he was saying, I want to redo I don't even get why he did that cause regionals actually better. Right. I guess he had ideas he wanted to us. Yeah. But it was the same story. They didn't really change anything. You could say that about lousy trio when he made psycho as well shot for shot. Remake of psycho, Mike, why just to challenge himself, like, Yep. So this movie unfolds. I didn't it's got loads of twists and turns and like the style of it. Because when somebody dies in this movie it prints, the name on the screen with, like, yeah. Not even makes it feel a bit funnier than it should be. Because you've just seen somebody murdered horrifically, because they're the name of the original movie, the original story is in order of disappearance. Right. And the credits for this movie also. Yes, very cool, because the credit show, everybody is in the movie on one screen, and then they just fade them away in the older that the died in the movie. Yeah. That's cool. I've never seen that before. That was pretty cool. So this movie it was surprising. I did. I'm like, oh, yeah. This is like fog goes comedy, because somebody somebody gets like each shouldn't really be left at some of the stuff from it's horrible. And even some of the stuff about like the native Americans in it. And, you know, some of the stuff's real you'll why why do. Find funny like it. It shouldn't really be. But it is funny, and there's a lot of just every single character in it like all the bad guys. And it's mostly about the by guys, they're all like logic than life coming, book type carrots is on there got something about. But for some reason in this it works, right? They've all got like they're all different is like, you know, he starts with the guy would like to cool mohawk type thing every all every single one of them a something a little bit different about them is like a gay guy like wedding dress guy. You know, it goes down the chain of, you know. Yeah. All characters really all developed something we about. And, you know, some of them are some of them are a bit over activity. I thought that there is not perfect example. You know, the main guy that the, the big buddy Viking play by Tom Bateman. I thought he was like, I don't know. Got it sometimes. But then sometimes I was I always a bit overboard, gray. But sometimes it was funny. Like when he's trying is a little boy the little buys, like a crucial by the movie, too, and one when he's the guy, and he's like father in the father in the little boy, but in light away, by guy would father a little, he's like, what did he say about him going to school? I is really just an opportunity. Yes shell you're medal. Yeah. Sit I hit him. Yeah. I mean, I don't agree with them, but the what you're like this guy. Yeah. He's probably would've wanted around kids. It's to murderous, but I don't think it's. Yeah. Well, yeah. So lame Neeson's character in this is a snowplow which I found interesting because this is no power in like not just like the guy who plows you'll street, when it snows. The guy who liked plows like big walls of snow. It's like ten feet. He's making a passageway from the small town into Denver, right? And it is like ten feet of snow. And so he just has to make a path. And when I was watching him snowplow, the beginning, when you saw those long shots of info power, and I was like I could probably watch the minutes of snow really fun. Heating because these machines, the machine that he's in, in fights. They do our shows, you know on the history channel snowplough bound snow. What's called like trucking across icy parts of the world or wherever AB Canada. And having to light tow trucks in the ice ventricle. Yeah, there's one in America, there's one in Britain truckin show called trucking help. Nice. That was a good name ritual. Kinship. So Leeson's doing the snow plowing job, which found fussily NFL like I liked. I like movies that take place in the snow. Hence why like Feige quite up. I also like on a really hot daylight today to watch a movie and takes place in the snow, psychological. Yeah. And effing snows fascinating, because it creates like road literal roadblocks characters. Doesn't it like you can't do certain things cluster? Phobic when it's really snowing unless you watch that what was that really bad, snow me? We watched Brian's snow blinding white bone snow White's out. Twi. It was a that can sell review days. Our po- cast it wasn't even about being cold. House was tragic don't remember lot about apart from mascot, rope from one building to the other, which we've all seen in other but can still remove close at one point in all dressed up. I'll sexy in little t- like they did for Ripley. Yep. Exactly stupid. Yeah, it was pretty bad. So Kopa suit is nothing like white blind white line. So it's. Yeah. If you like a really if I to say, what movies is like fine go and it's like it's not like them though. No. But as viable Fargo a law include as soon as those police officers came into the uncomfortable at the comedy stuff for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm always been light is phony. You're like why I'm laughing because somebody's just gonna wood Chipper like what the hell why kipper we have snow Chipper those? Yeah. That know. Things like that. And those two cops which I do think we saw enough of this to cops in this movie there. The small town cops, you know, you've seen them in a billion different things these type of guards woman in a block, and didn't think we saw enough of them because they were really good characters. And I was like, oh, really want to spend some more time with them, but they were in it. Very little, right? You don't they couldn't fix the problem. So no, you know that's the way I look at it. They were gonna be useless, not because they were hapless but because the story wasn't about over the pay grade. It just wasn't gonna resolve, you know, a lot of things this movie. So verse all the stuff tonight. It's a law of g like okay, so this thing Ono is not is this thing. And then when the cops come along, okay? Now it's going to be like a procedural thing. They're going to try and figure it all out. But then it's not really that either as like it's just these bud people, and I said, to you at the beginning of the movie, Liam Niessen, does allow kicking us, and killing people. But then what happens is he has to do less, and less of it. Because the, the bug guys, they figure out some of guys. You know, everybody going against each other in the, you know, Clarence, he's got the go game, thus literally will up in like Liam nations, like, oh, I've got to kill some of these guys, and then the guy's, like, hey, some of our guys have gone missing, then the bug I start to kill each other. While leeann. So he has to kill less and less as the movie goes on. And you might think that's not fun. But he kinda, you know, the other thing that was under used I find I fall. I really love Laura replays, it just kind of went nowhere like it just felt like that part because they didn't explore explain overtly that this marriage. They all kept saying what happy marriage? They have I disagree because this happens before this happened. She was already like you don't listen kind of thing she wasn't really into him. She smokin dote to like, kind of you could see then she makes a joke about having to like cook the dead deer 'cause she's like, we've got the last of the Bambi here because he's a hunter. So it's like she's already disconnected. And then when this happens, there's no more son to stick around the Leeson is not a communicator of his feelings. He just goes off. And does his thing she doesn't know what he's doing? Who knows she might have state, you know, like she's, but no one, they didn't take the time to explain if this was like such a lovely w wonderful relationship or of all the years, remarried. It was it felt really cold distant it he was the only reason they were gather, you know what I mean. So I felt like the kind of that was missing. Spoiler. She she leaves him during. And then she's just left a movie doesn't. She's not just left him. She's never again. That's why when on the credits she disappears. Yeah. Which I was like, oh, really like I thought she was going to be involved in the plot. Again, at some point like. Thought maybe the by guys would phone him about somebody go. Hey, we got we got your wife, you know, I thought that she was going to be pivotal go with anything obvious like that. Yeah. That's why I think this is pretty good because I was never going. Oh, yeah. I'm sure that the only thing I was completely. Sure of was that everybody who is bad. It was probably going to die. Right. And the name was probably gonna flush up on the screen at some point. That was the only thing I was sure of I'd no idea. How a why we're introduced to some of the rates is real late on in the movie. I don't we, you know, the other side of the gang is a native American gang, which in the original movie was a like a Russian gang. Yeah. So they've switched around. It made it like a like the director guy said try to make it like a western. I don't agree with that. But I do agree with by guys going up against each other and stuff. But yeah, they were trying to do kind of like an old western. But in action movie was there any did you like special effects and stuff? I mean think it looked really cool. I mean it wasn't like super polished, fancy glossy, which I always like, yeah, it was mostly a it was mostly practical. Right. Practical work. It was some CGI. The was used don't know why. But kept saying that shot where whenever we drove into Denver, gummy ashtray. I was like that, that just doesn't look, right? It looks phony like he's driving into painting. And that was the only thing where I was like, oh, it always a bit off. But everyone else was not, you know, it wasn't there wasn't there wasn't any, it wasn't like a CGI type film. It wasn't CGI blood when anybody killed it was all real stuff. Did you know is that like it did look a bit? Well, I don't know. See jin. See Jin when you watching the Walking Dead, and like there's no actually no blood on. The set is just CG book this, this movie was all people with makeup, blet. All they really kill people. The really killed the minute, what you think. Wasn't a snuff movie. No, so, yeah. Overall like to address is an end into a realized that ending seen absolutely Harley. Finally ending scene happens. Exactly the same way in the in the right thought maybe. So moving onto the cast Liam Niessen plays. Nells Cockman is a cock men, also Cockman. Politic. It had sex. Yes. I'm not sure that's his main skill is main skelly Snowden wife got together. And then had a Solis marriage. So my mind, yes, so did you lightly on? You just think he's just doing the same still a lot of the same. But then I felt like are times on, like, yeah, let's pretty good. You know what I mean? Like one all say about him is he does do the same thing like over and over. But he's quite good at doing these particular movies. So I you know, back in the day when Bruce Willis was in a bunch of action movies. I'm not so much. Big Musi final, Bruce Willis now. But I always thought he fit those movies, you know, the diodes. Yeah. Feel like Nason fits, people said, always like an unlikely action hero. But I don't think so he looks like they saw love actually. No, no. What I'm saying that was that was when he was. Funny in Levette Uley, and also tragic Honey ish. So. Yeah. Laura dern. If you haven't seen twin peaks the revival, the third series go much hit. She will wait. Have our pizza while wait for them to go watch that. Yeah. Also wild hot by David Lynch. It's bananas in a really good way or also drastic park. No. Don't choose it. Drifts? There's no denying. It wasn't drafted by course. She's great not not utilized enough in this movie. Just right now, white more of our, like, of course. But I mean, this furthest movie goes, it was just right. Because it was about him doing what I would think I'm not a parent, but that's how I would want to go about it. What about EMMY Russell? Screw everybody every rule every expectation and kill everybody. Emme resume is Kim Dutch from shameless. She left shameless. A belief. I think it's over. No, it's not just a new season. It's just that she's not in animal. But she was any for eight years, or something, I've never really seen him in anything else apart from so good to see her. Unlike say, again, relied more of those two cops, but they didn't really amount to atone a lot. I disagree. They were like reflected screen three your life. Yeah. But doesn't us for what they did. What about the the male Cup? John Doman is John. Sneeze could have been innovating. Tom Jackson as white bull. Who's the leader of the native American? Yeah, I liked him. I liked him too, and Tom Bateman is the opposing leader, the, the kind of like, why what would you say his crew yuppies like him, rich assholes? Yeah. They described him like he wants to be like a fancy businessman. Right. And I think now has to wear a suit and become a slick, but they're kinda dopey. He kinda dopey like like like a cartoon from. Yeah. Tunes or something a bit bit dopey. I thought on he is some of the scenes were really good. I like twenty was talking to his wife. Yes, those are the best ones of him and I didn't put down, but she is awesome as his wife, when she grabs hold of his bowls. Down. He's about to hit her swings at her. She don't go. She ducks and grabs his balls, like reckon Chaim really twenty thousand two that, it's, it's just funny like this guy. At least somebody can we go? What brings him down? Don't touch the balls. So this is directed by Huns pizza Moland. And he directed the original version of this crafty Oaten which when did you go bone up on your nor weaken? Abon open it. Yeah. And he's done over store like he's done. Some TV shows in the Netherlands, but not movies this is big Hollywood movie. I did a really good job. I think it was really well designed it was well shot. I think it was well executed. It's not it's not like it could be super confusing movie like this with so many characters, but it wasn't don't know about that. A lot going on in this move. There is if you went on your phone, five minutes, like believe, after the event, your own fault, you can watch an episode of friends go on your phone. You'd lose track of what's going on, if you're an idiot, so I did like what he did. I'd like to see more from him. I don't know if this is one offer what I don't know. So extras on the Blu Ray. There is some deleted scenes is an interview with actor Liam Neeson's is as. Do we have to actor in front of you that we know is like a plumber, namely a niece out there in the world famous not snowplough? Dr agai interview with the director. Welcome to ki-ho behind the scenes feature at which we watched features pretty long actually like faulty minutes. It is not fully promotional knows. All right. It was like explaining everything, I know when you watching a proper making of these lots of interviews on the set and about two thirds of the way through the costuming lady guest to talk from every time and she did in this one. So that means it was a real feature at. So, yeah. Co pursuit is actually a big surprise may cause I thought I was not train the one on the train. I don't know what it was called. It wasn't unstoppable. Because that was the moment, Denzel Washington. We watched it. They're trained, one betrayed the train William Nason that we watched last the last Leeson veer for Mainga. Yeah. I thought it was going to be latte that in the snow, somebody like that. But I was pleasantly surprised that it was not one thing. Liam must've saw this. This is kind of like in my ballpark, but then also goes a bit different too. Why usually so I was happy with them because it was a surprise. What about you? You really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it even though it's pretty brutal. Pretty on. It's pretty. I mean, it's not trying to say anything or do anything, like is it you know, you might you might say, there's no hidden message. You know, it's just a straight up by other than confirming that, for a lot of fathers, who maybe don't express a lot of feelings, if you kill their son. This is what they would want to do. And it kind of you can live vicariously like highly, I would. Don't give a shit about all these little punks. They're done. I'm done. All right. So, yeah, I realize the lesson if you knew her to your children, you exact very extreme event. Plow. So thank you to Lionsgate for Sunday, a copy for review, and maybe that we're going to do this weekend will be LEGO, the LEGO movie, too, essentially, cold, the LEGO movie, the second part excellent. It was really fun. The first one. So maybe recommendations, I am going on the what we just watched culpa suit. I just missed I just missed a big section of show. I it every week again, a skip right over. It Reese, can't skipped over the IMDB revolve. It's new you're adjusting. He don't like change much some input. Let me let me read you while you explain this. Okay, you go on I am Devi every time to watch movie in you like to read, what people think about movies, which I Ronnie siklie couldn't give a shit wedding by thinks I don't listen to podcasts reviews, but you do either to confirm your bias of that. You do like the movie or to confirm that it's easy graph when you don't. And these are the one-star reviews that you like to give a little bit of personality, too. Little bit of a voice chancellor's the one-star reviews on MD just funny to me, because it's just people who have nothing to say, no, nothing constructive to say what, so ever. So number one, and this is a one ton. And he says, I phoned the film in no way funny, and to taking or amusing. It's a complete waste of time how Niessen signed off on this garbage is a mystery to me time as a big favourite with these, it's a huge zero is like the main thing in all of these every single this guy, this guy, actually. Gives a shout out to the movie taken. And he says, I likely Niessen he used to be able to act. But now he's just a parody of himself, which is said and this movie tries to hard to be hip it. Dislocates it self. It's not even funny. It's not dramatic. Every character is a cliche and the plot is ridiculous. As to border on madness. Save you save. Save yourself. Toment a rent out taken instead, he's actually still renting out me this as well going to blockbuster. If he got taken. All right. The thing is all that many said, he still didn't say anything, you didn't say anything except insultingly Newson, he didn't say because this that and the other just until insult insult go watch it, which doesn't make any sense, Christine ac- TV, who said that. You wanna watch out if you are insulting Liam Nason is especially. All right. So number this next one is I regret paying for the ticket for this movie. It was really badly doing. Does it? My gosh, you people, you people are as another, we went, because they spent the time and spent the money and then to the time. But you know what they probably went on their phone, and did it while they're watching movie, but you take the time to write that says we win, because we enjoy Liam Niessen, but we couldn't wait for it to be over. Can't believe Liam signed off on this, this is what another person even said, good friend, LIAM's apparently dome Huma, nothing at all. Like, well, we expected out of Liam movie, poor acting the worst movie ever seen. That's another classic the worst movie ever, not the worst movie I've ever seen. No, no, no. They like to make it the worst movie. I'm finally this movie is a huge waste of time his and structure implausible, even for a movie at the writing terrible. The blood over done in a supposed to attempt to Huma. Love is a rather foes, concept and the left's are in the wrong places for reasons beyond understanding a thirteen year old my find this funny, but it's a waste of Liam Niessen. I'm trying to be go. Can't deny that there are some Fargo knocks are not that I think probably the director, just a fan he lives in Norway gonna be that kind of place. Yes. Yeah. Just goes on. Yeah. That's pretty much what the one star is. Think of it. They group all of their own now. Yeah. Stars so moving on to write me recommendations I am going with on a mentioned, the million smoking aces. It's a movie from what if teen years ago, twenty? Yeah. And there's a sequel to two sequels not quite as good. But it's like a ensemble thing, it's like killers hitmen is kind of wacky a little bit. It's really fun. And I will also recommend Fargo. And I actually recommend the TV show. Vago absolutely. I like the TV show as in the movie widely. Now, I wouldn't say better, you're just you just move on from things very quickly. It's it's equally as good in continues. The whole of the story, unluckily, we're getting Fargo season for next year. So not I think it stars, Chris rock actually, Chris rock's. The main character an iphone when they bought the last one, I was, like you mcgregor's demand character wonder what that's all about good. But it was good. It was really, really good. So yeah, that's my with a on yoga. Mine are first time this year brought this up. But if you talk about revenge, gotta talk about kill Bill. It just is what it burned is a dish served cold. Yes. Kill Bill is my first one and the other one as you mentioned it while I can think of the name of it in the new said it wind river. Yes, with Hucker guy or whatever they miss, and the woman who was pleased in this was in it. We can't figure out what she was. However, it's talk about making me feel cold ended bleak. And there's no comedy now it's just sad, but really good. Like the winter version of Manchester by the it in about cost, you can go listen to correct. Or just go watch it that that'd be my recommendation. It is good. I would recommend you watch that one. See, that's rare butts happening. So a Scully stuff I have been playing more days, gone on. On is cold days gone, because it's been zone be apocalypse. It's not it's not year. Novels on apocalypse say like illness. I guess that is, Yep. That's always that. Yeah. People have guns on the not the boring kinda zombies in this game that really frustrating. Not. You're like give you one second to react to them, though. The fun kind is on these. I like those ones fun very fun. Twenty eight days later believe was the movie that introduced that type is on be right? And then you're like, whoa. They usually shambled to do. But now they just run full speed shambling. Yeah. So as gone is a open world PlayStation four game. You're in this open world. It's like I can't remember where it takes place. Wooded mountainous, mountainous would would learns is really pretty looking on your this guy de consent John, he used to be in a motorcycle gang. Light light the sons of anarchy type thing, and he's not bad guy a search, he as the apocalypse was happening his wife got injured. And she got took off on a helicopter on this is light. And then it goes, like, you know, I think it's five hundred seven hundred something days later, and his not seen his wife since so the aim the main storyline of the game you try. And you think she's dead? He's even made a gravestone for, but I'm not spoiling it. No. I haven't even I'm not even like third of the way through. I don't know if she's dead or alive, but I'm assuming injured probably isn't dead. Right. Because she didn't she wasn't in. That other one you don't see somebody dying a story true. You know. So, yeah, he's going around the world is going around the wilderness. Somebody's there is there is like in any of these things think of the Walking Dead like hilltop, and the, you know, this, this civil and he's a drifter he doesn't fit into any of the console. He goes to this three different comes in. He goes to three of all three of them, and you basically like an errand boy for these camps where the game Luke comes in, you know, one guy or say, hey, why don't you go and go to the library downtown? I'm gals a bulk of something wherever, they won you go. Of when you get to the library, infested, you got to fight your way through that get the boat. Bring it back ends up as a bunch of, like shopping missions over silent shopping at the grocery boy. Okay. But then some of them missions, a real interesting taking counts of like like these even zombies that, like you know what my max people. I don't know why we always think people will end up like Mad Max people at the end of the world. I save out the we watch were just because people are like alone or stranded. At just gonna go looking the name. And yeah, I just don't think that's doomsday. Even not that I believe, realism because our need realism because I loved on. But we always write that into zombie stories under the will the buckle up things. Hope people go crazy in the all of them Mohawks, and they, you know, they look like that parched. Her. We'll all have Mohawks in the future when there's an into punks current. Luli so, yeah, it says game, the big leap on and, you know, when you play feels a lot to me, like red dead redemption, to in redemption to you spend a lot time right in your house about and people. Hey, if an I said to my favorite part, it's like get on my awesome riding around horse. Maybe. So in this game you know, you don't have a harsh, you have motorcycle. I knew motorcycle, you have to keep hope keep it, you have to find fuel you have to repair it. If I'm parts for and you find grading stuff you, making you bite better as you go along. So a lot of the game involves you ride from Bicester another on the bike, so the bike as to really be good to drive and it really is. It's got like a drift mechanic. It sounds really cool like a heavy Harley Davidson, havi Davidson, I was gonna say nice. But it's it's a cool game it so it's really long this game of heritz like fifty hours, if you do everything, but it's one of Sony's exclusive games it's only on the PlayStation full and. It's really fun. There are some issues. The issues. I I've seen out the frame rate drops occasionally as like pods like, like thousands of Swamy at once they called holds, and there's really thousands on, on the screen, and sometimes the PlayStation kinda is like, please, please don't make me make thousands of these beyond the screen and the frame rate. Drops quite significantly to the people who don't know what you're talking about frame rate is. Well, when you play thing again, is, you know, it smooth you may be carried to around so soon frame rate is how many frames when you watch movies. Twenty four point six frames. A second of movie is not so much now but as a moving is moving pictures, which is used to be a whole bunch of individual pictures on pieces of film that ran in front of your eyes at a certain speed. There's a rate that the frames pass before your eyes nowadays is not like that necessarily. But it is how, how fast it can deliver to you how fast the, the frames are flashing in front of your face when you want to remove it, twenty four point. Whatever frames the second. It always it doesn't jerk around it. His smoothie inside. Right. You're looking at people doing the thing if the framework to drop in that movie went to fifteen you'd be like, why is my most wrongly Makeba box? It seems weird. You know. So that's how I would explain this. You play in the game a bunch of this, too much going on, on the screen, and all of a sudden, you'll carrots it doesn't respond very well like he's trying to shoot an it's like delayed and it doesn't quite often in this game. I'm hoping they Pochet 'cause it's a really cool game apart from those technical issues also some technical issues where a walk into accomp-, it's clear, the comp by guys scientifically the camp. And then I fell through the floor and I could see I was not in not in the game anymore. I was underneath the game. And I could look and I could see everybody's feet above. Nice. So I was supposed to up, so yes. That was I also put an track, you can explain what that is track that movie with the green guy. Yeah. Or vikes, we bought trek bikes and don't get excited and think home track. Some of you may not know what that is just brand of bike. It just happens of their bikes can be more expensive than like a car, SUV very pricey. However, do have three hundred dollar three ninety nine of so four hundred dollar range in bought a couple of those didn't buy your birthday present last year in employment by new this year signs instead bought us to bikes and they are very much better than before were WalMart bikes Mongoose now mine that issues through the years couple years that we wrote them pretty heavily. But for the most part, they did their job that got me convinced that I do like writing bicycle. And so now this is just upgraded essentially definitely feel. Different to the. Yes, even though the bikes when they were new didn't feel like these bikes. Did fix my seat though, because some reason it was slipping slightly. I think they just didn't screw that thing on tighter, which you can do that by because we have shop in town. They are trek dealer and repair. Shop into they assemble it and all that stuff for you and give you a service, whatever it is not in the world of bikes yet, but I'm excited because feel like this one could handle knee writing it to work, which is my old goal when we went for a ride on them today. It was extremely halt. Yes. That's why we're hot now. Eight eighty six degrees on the trail and it made it really exhausted. The Kennedy heat that makes me almost want throw up, but then the first time and I'm covered with a lot of fat cells on my body. So I think the fat, like swells up. It's not pleasant but I'm just like no this. I love this and nothing in my entire life. I'm not I'm talking about Noah amount of exercise as ever, I would rather. Either be probably fat on the couch forever. If my only option was delight do aerobics billion. No, I'm out, you know, but for some reason, writing a bike, my crotch hurts. I sweat my back sweats Monette, Kurds until my head up all, you know, for couple of hours in a row. All of it seems like it would be very much of a deterrent for me is not. No. And so, I feel like it was worth the investment worth my healthcare investment. Yes. I like to say, all right. So I also played well Morgan code rage to it's a software. The people might doom and quake mcnew game Cole rage of literally played the first thirty minutes. I will tell you is like, like any idea software. Title is really smooth shoot stuff, a lot on his like super kinda like heavy metal music, play stuff night is kind of vibe, I like stuff. So maybe it'll be good. I don't know yet, so. What's for dinner it in the oven? It's Papa John's pizza because I am not cooking. It can plus still of this forget, you tell you this. Or maybe I did I went into the store while greens end did tell you this. But I guess I'm sunscreen got Hawaiian tropic, which is my favorite smelling used to be suntan lotion that we would put on in order to get more of a tan, and I love wine tropic it smells like coconut is fantastic. Escort Allama hand, while she's ringing me up. And I was like, oh, I forgot. I can't even smell it. I've lost missive taste and smell for anyone who has been losing a few weeks. And she goes, oh, mesia, whatever it's called the actual name of it is like you've heard of this, she goes, I've heard of it, never had it. But I've heard of that sounds awful. It really is. It's really awful. So I don't wanna cook think it's gonna last forever to, I can't taste anything which is like margin. It's slightly depressing them figuring out. What foods I like today, we got back, and it was like all sweaty and tired. And I'm like, oh my God. I could eat all those candy bars that have. I can kind of tell when something sweet. But then I looked in I'm like, oh, rock heritz. Yes. Crunchy raw carrots. So maybe it will improve my health overall, but it's awful. It's so the worst thing you're going to happen to you, basically. It's just a personal things, and people who don't give a shit about eating food, agus wouldn't care only won't cooking. I love cooking been have a bit of, you know, separation anxiety from wanting to cook advice really interesting Neil for you. But what's your advice vice is pretty basic, this time, do you see on there? Well, I guess culinary advice going. Yes. This leads back to somebody. I can tell them eating something spicy because whatever the spice in the food, does to the skin of your mouth. I can feel that but cannot taste it. Right. So I can tell if I beaten, Hello, pay no or chili powder or something like that. But I can't tell that's what it is just feels like my mouth has been burned a little bit. Sounds great. I know. And then anything crunchy, so it could be anything crunchy. I mean anything equal, give me a piece of cardboard at this point, that's fried ability, really good. 'cause it's crunchy. So I put jalapeno cheese. You know, pepper cheese pepper Jack cheese on a saltine cracker. That is awesome. My vice try a salty cracker with some healthy new project tease on Mars via Viasova deep advice this week, but assaulting krecko with some earthbound spread on the on that. Yeah crackers with butter, always good. That's deep because my brains, too hot, today's overcoats aren't. So as you heard me, say, the beginning of the show, you can find out where all the in all that stuff, catches on Instagram and catch this podcast on YouTube. Sometimes most. You can Email me as excluded come to ima sit talk. Never. I mean you can. Yeah. 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Men In Black International

Black Men Can't Jump

1:13:32 hr | 1 year ago

Men In Black International

"Hey forever dog listeners. My name's Don finale and not the former head of a mafia family wish I am the hose of forever dog podcast. It's called the need to fail. It was named by vulture as one of the best podcasts pointy eighteen. Yeah. To my own horn. What's the podcast about why sit down with actors writers comedians and creatives? And we talk about the major setbacks in their careers, and more importantly, how they push past them, often feel very alone. In isolate in our creative pursuits. It's great to hear other people's stories about over common failures, or just totally wiping out. My guests have included Chris gathered Nicole buyer Clemens Natasha, Rothwell, John Gabor's, Abby Jacobsen more in the lab guest, I got Neo Casey talking about how he is writing his SNL packet in a homeless shelter. Jessica Sinclair, talking about hush got fired from two sitcoms Darcy Carter, talknet hush accepted the fact that acting was not gonna work out for then she put the good place a month. Later got dishing tips, writing tips, organizational tips record almost one hundred of these bad, boys. They dropped every Tuesday on the forever podcast network, wherever you listen to podcasts nowadays. If you need a good, pick me up, or he just wanna be inspired checkout. The need to fail. Keep on failing keep on grow. Wing. Oversaturation of franchise. Don't do this to me. We gotta talk about it. I love ridge is. Making the same movie over and over again too much of this. I liked the movie once I wanna see it in fifteen different than. At the audience is finally just saying, no are there, even international audiences like Dopp, just make a good movie. You can't make a sequel, good stop making him. I don't know. I saw Jurassic world falling kingdom, five times in the theater. And I don't think that movie's good. I'll, I'll say that is not good. No, it's not good. But that's, that's the most I've ever seen a movie theater. Okay. But that movie didn't make as much as didn't wait following was the other one at world, just period yet. Right. See they're, they're, they're getting diminishing returns now because if you notice if a film is good more people will see the next one right film is bad less. People see the next one. Right. So. I mean it's like sometimes you have the worst film, making the most money, only because the film before it was so good, right? Yeah. I mean, isn't that how like fast and furious like stayed for so long, and that's why I kept making more money, right? And but the now they've gotten better the I've only seen only saw which, which one did I see theaters. The one we talked about fast, eight fate. Yeah. That's the one. Well, because it was like it was like it was like too fast. I made more than fast, the fast and furious. But then Tokyo drifts made less than two fast fast was bad, 'cause too, and they like, and they like VIN diesel wasn't in it, and people are like what and then fast. Fasten the furious, which they took out the right. That's number four. That's number four. And I think that may more than the third one and it was, I think people were like this is okay was better than the third one actually some people told me 'cause I didn't die for the ride or die with third one. I didn't watch all of them. I hadn't seen any of them. Right. And people told me to watch fought. There were like don't even care where the other ones start at five or something. And so I I just bought five it was like it was like cheap on voodoo or something right? Bought five, and I have started five four times. I can't get it. But it's been tested. I mean it's really good. It's all fun. And I think Hobbs going gonna make a lot of money. I can't wait. My man pulls a helicopter. Connects a chain going to see that seat talking about break with, with the no franchise. No. 'cause the lose are good only. If the movies are good I'm saying, I'm saying, you gotta keep making them because we didn't think that one day, the rock was going to be pulling because you don't know. You didn't know that one day the wrong is going to be pulling the helicopter with a chain. But then you saw. Oh shit because it's the right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I mean, there's certain people, you know, they be a franchise Samuel Jackson. You know men in black. What are you international? Because. Because they're international stars. Just say two black men, and then say. Minim black. These. I'm just saying around the world, they do well around mental, they do way black, that's doing well internationally. There are other layers, honestly, I saw the different. I thought you were doing different thing that made less. Well, honestly, here's the thing is that the great thing about by openers is that there are a lot of layers. They're just like the really great cavalier, thought out not like improvise them in the thirty seconds leading up. Has to be what you do, though. Don't act. Like that's not what you know what I'm saying? They're like, don't find another way to say many. You're like searching for the other way to say, no, I'm surgeon man, because you already know already know once your gets here. Many bike. Now, I do want to say before we get into I don't wanna start yet. What I want to tell everybody is that we're actually. We're going to London baby. Running for the Argo. We. Man. Yeah. Men in black international. All right. Let's get out of there. James. Joe? Right. The black men can't jump in Hollywood Hollywood's sit heated defeated them, nothing but my witch series seventy atom atomised. That was my. That was my Chris Hemsworth. Wait. That was your Chris heaven. Like I guess he's. I didn't actually Chris, hold on. I have I have. I defeated I defeated. It's getting closer right? Why are you making it so serious? Like a. Okay. Well, let me go for Liam Neeson. I defeated I. Feet of another my witness series. Seventy atomised getting better. That sounds like thank you should just stop. Yeah. Find you and I will kill you. All right. Okay. Enough of this. If you don't dress, not here. Okay. Yeah, you're not living but my wouldn't other. But by woods cert- SU there's a little bit more nasal. I defeated. That's, that's Liam closer, Liam Neeson. I defeated them with nothing. But my wits an Indiana series seven at a series seven data, right with nothing. But my wits. All right. Let's do this perform seven. Why? Okay for those of you who are listening for the first time in haven't turned up. We are film review podcast. We review films of leaning black actors, we talk about them in the context of race was going on and diversity. That's why in Hollywood entertainment. Okay. Okay. Ross says Moore stuff it's. Close today, we are reviewing the film men in black international. The fourth film in the series. Yes. This one has no Will Smith. Well, you know what? No, Tommy legion, the hold on. We see them in an oil painting whip over to an oil painting. Okay. What did I just say this movie has no Will Smith now? We see them in an oil, Tommy Lee Jones. I think that means they're in it. You know, they're not in air likenesses in this movie has no rip torn RIP. No rip torn RIP. But, but no, Tony shillue. No way. No way, will Tony. I don't remember know. This is making sure he didn't. He didn't play a voice for somebody like oh, he could have, I guess. Yeah, I, I don't think he did. Now frank. The pug is back trank. The pug is back. The worm guys are bad guys are back. Not really back. They're just they make Quinnipiac. Matab sins back. She's in. Third one. Yeah. But for like hot second, right? I think she was the rip torn in that. Oh, she was, yeah. I forgot about that. I feel like that's why spoiler okay? I feel like that's why spoiler alert they sent her back to the US at the if they want to make more movies, they would want to keep your she's three legit forgot about men in black three we review to recently. Here's the thing, you know, just to get this out of the way. Like I don't like any men in black. I've, I haven't liked men in black sequels your but men in black is one of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah. Course now this movie now, this is probably going to make the least amount of money of all of them. Yes. Yes. So they're not gonna make any more of these movies. This is the end of the mini block. I, I would be. The end of the minute black. What I read was that there's nice show and. How are you? Mate less than dark Phoenix, how little weight while they know. So jarara really important question. What's your Liam Neeson, impression? Probably going to be way better than mine. Terrible. Go ahead. I really am. Only thinking of taking. Away. Hold on, on the sites will set. Said no. Skills. What is say that particular set of skills? And if you hurt my daughter anyway, I will find you. He so rat, so hard to describe his voice is so funny. See him, do all these action movies knowing life, before he was like such a prestige, like Schindler's List, like for St. jacker. Yeah. Saying he's not anymore, but it's like wow. All right, look. But yeah, but this is may no money this movie. This movie is going to Polly make about twenty five million opening weekend, three point one million dollars in, in the previews and Thursday, previews, we're recording this on a Friday. So we don't know how much money it's gonna make. But it's not looking good franchises going down in flames for sure. Even internationally is not going to do to. Well, I mean, the, the rotten tomatoes has it at twenty five percent right now. I mean I don't understand why they didn't just do the thing that was supposed to happen. Twenty one jump street crossover like that would have been good. I mean, she was so long this all would have been put to me, you, it has something, you'd have something that people would have been curious to see right? I don't know if it would have worked by twenty one jump street and down to film stars Tessa Thompson. And Chris Hemsworth who t- who were considered a duo within Thor ragnarok? Yes. Even though they weren't fully in that movie. Together, and also Thor had the hulk in that film as well. Right. I do as as much as I like the ragnarok and I like it a lot. I do feel like their team up was a little bit over reported. Because if you watch that movie again, it's not like not like the movies about those two trying to do. They're definitely trying to do like a callback to that. Yeah. But it's so funny because it is not even there isn't even close because literally his team probably is with LOKI and hope split with her in the mix. I mean right now, this movie cost one hundred ten million dollars to make ham. They make none of that special effects. Looks good though. None of that back. It's black director f Gary gray, Gary great. I mean, it was a big deal for him to get this gig. I'm gonna be doing this your thoughts, you know, dancing around stuff. I'm talking about the fatigue of. Okay. This, this episode is a hard episode because this episode is about people that we want to work with in the future that we hope to work within the future artistic. I respect everything they do. Like that. We think we think highly of I mean we sat on his owners podcast before Impreza movies at Tom's minute and praised movies to Gary gray has done a great is the man director, just for people who, who may not know, and they're listening director StrataCom straight out of cop to direct day direct the Italian jaw, he directed heater negotiator. Which we which I love and set it off off, of course. And also, apparently, I. He directed the fate of the furious. Yes. Wow. Did. Yeah, of course. I mean talked about it. Yeah. Because we reviewed that film to remember the move. Directed by this, right. He also direct be cool, which I like he directed a lot of who a lot of films that we love. It's all right. It was a lot of films that we've covered we we've this is, let's see we did one two three four of his films already. All right. Is that? This is a tricky predicament, where we're reviewing a movie of people that we respect. And again, we want to work with in this again. I know your thoughts you feel like it's clear that we're all about to just sit on. The lead. We said he's a thing. K respect. We have exulted these people own way enjoy them. I don't know this thing. I am conflicted because I don't know what to do because this is something where like normally I would be like our go it, I would and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say the fans you can't do that. But I do think there's a responsibility now, until, like, okay, how do we do this for our particular few chance? We gotta protect ourselves. All right. Screw it. Which I think. I wanna hear what I feel any better that two white men were with this. Does that? How? How? Conde over us. She's in from zero to. Matt hollow Holloway. And our Mecom Markham. Markham wrote transformers the last night. I love that movie. I love that movie. Are you saying with a straight face transformers five is one of the better transformers movies that? All right. Night, baby, brother. He wrote he wrote punisher war zone. And he wrote iron man. Yep. I like the first one use name. He's way. Hold on one second. Oh, yeah. A lot of people. A lot of people are creditors this, all right? To thought these guys I resent that they both did. So I think they both all those movies. I like I like this team like some of the stuff done. Okay. I'm ready. Let's do the hold on. And. Got more. Go ahead. Okay. I'm gonna be real. I did not enjoy this move. Okay. I the thing is, you know, that this is not like this is trying to save face. But almost not really like I do think, after great dit a good job like. I think he did a good job whereas like the special effects look good. Like if felt like the pacing was well, I just think the script was insane. Like I they had Chris him worth be like this, this agent who is just so silly. If felt like again, everyone keeps trying to do the twenty one jump street thing, like making things kinda slapsticky when it doesn't need to be a do think in Tessa Thompson is really good. I think she may not have been the right person for this particular part. Just because I think she has really abilities in other in other ways, but this did not the script, and what was happening did not lead to her success. And I don't think Chris Hemsworth character was really good. So, like we were really watching the movie just to see them play off each other. But for the first twenty twenty minutes, they weren't even together. So I'm like, well so yeah, I didn't enjoy it. But I respect everyone in it. Okay. James. I gotta go next. I. I didn't like it. I really I respected their. Totally trying to capture the spirit of men in black like the score is damn near the same. Like didn't even change it. They really the same score like a. Yeah. Wasn't score. There are clearly some new, they're like, there are some new, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a different music, for sure. But they definitely like bring back a lot of the original thing, obviously, because it sounds like like you said, you felt like it was the same. So I like that. Definitely feel like there's some things that they got. Right. Like there's some comedic moments that really feel like like old school men in black. But then there's a whole lot that they got wrong like, and there is some of the action sequences are so fun. And then the moments leading up to them, so bored. And so like it was on, on this was two of them. It has I am to be has Chris bacon. End Danielle Fman. Okay. Because of that, because all of the was released, SO, I feel like maybe it was just Chris bacon, and Danny often it was like his original stuff. Right. I don't know. I so. Yeah. So I mean there was a lot of really for the first like twenty minutes. I was like, laughing and nodding, at the like the stuff that was like that feels very men in black. But they, it was a lot, it felt like a lot of like fan service like, okay, we'll do this. We'll do this. We'll do this just for those people who like are looking forward to that. But like without any of the, the like watching watching Will Smith like experience all this stuff for the first time there's just so much happening for him that you feel as an audience member, and it was just apps very absent from from this movie, and I think that hurt it and then like the team up. Of timely Jones Will Smith is so important there. So like from another world then each other that like putting them together. So fun to watch and like their struggle to get close together is so fun to watch. And but this didn't quite have that for, for a for a lot of reasons that will talk about when we when we get into it. So I had issues with that mostly mostly stories stuff. I thought it looked great other a lot of funny moments, but particularly the beginning story stuff just fell really flat for me. I don't know how to say, I don't know how to talk about this movie in, in a way that feels. But like. I'm trying to be super respectful, but I'm also trying to be honest and the reality is this. I think the casting of this movie is a detriment to the to the film. I don't think I don't think that the screenplay was particularly great. I don't think it was particularly bad either. I want to kind of put that out there like the film just four what they're trying to do with the sequel because I don't like men in black two. Do not like men in black three and the cat. And like that's like the same cast and I still don't like those movies. And it's because I think the screenplay is not great. So I actually think with that cast with this green play it would have felt like okay it wouldn't have felt great. But like. With Tom Jones would have been kind of fun, and it would have felt like if that if this movie was men and by two with the same cast, I think would have been like, oh, the secret step down, but it's like you know, it was like enjoyable. You know, I don't try and wouldn't have seen. You would not have seen many black three. If I probably wouldn't think why saw a box you anyway and those movies were bad. So I don't know. I would have seen like three but I just like men in black. I wouldn't have been excited, I wasn't excited for black three when it came out, even though I saw it. And then I remember thinking men in black three was better than two but it still wasn't agree. You know what I mean? And so this movie in the terms of that kind of thing, I think like men in black international is kind of like men in black three except I think the screenplay for this movie while like not being the greatest wasn't so bad, like some, you know, so here's some spoil like just some like spoilers like, there was some things that were happening that were. That genuinely surprised me. You know it was surprising that the people who we thought were bad round up, not being bad. I didn't know that was going to happen. Yeah. It's a it didn't surprise surprise me who the mole was. But I thought they did a pretty good job of like masking so it wasn't super super obvious. Because the reality is the MO if Chris Hemsworth wound up being the hive, I wouldn't have been super surprise. If the other dude was part of the high would've been super surprise. I knew they were kind of like a kind of knew it wasn't the other do just because it was like it seemed like very, obviously they were very trying to make it seem like it was him. And you're like, okay, it's probably not him. It's probably either Liam Neeson's. Chris Hemsworth, and in and I kind of my guess was Liam Neeson, but I'd liked what they were doing to also, you know, the little the callback with the little creature. I didn't I don't know why didn't recognize that, that creature was the thing like it was the same colors, but I didn't recognize until she said it until she was like, wait a minute of. Whatever the race was, and I was like, oh, I was waiting for that. Did you know when you first saw him that it was him? Did you too? I didn't I was just waiting for news, come back to knows him. And so I thought that was pretty I thought like that was pretty good, you know. And it was a funny moment of like, what did you say to me that I, I said, I would kill any in the most horrible way like I'll kill one person. And I was like, that's a funny joke. That was a legitimately funny joke. There are some legitimately funny jokes in this. And then what was the last thing that was, like there was another little surprise? Oh, just that he was neural is that, that was the thing. That was that was cool. Oh, yeah. I didn't like when they add that was cool when she was like wait, she was, like, how did you defeat him again? When she said that was when I went, oh, snap, he was, I was like how did. And I was like, how did I realize that was so? So there are some things that were laid out in the script that I was like, oh, this is like pretty good. But the reason it feels like it doesn't work mrS partially a script problem. Parsley casting problem is like. Guys, like I wanna work with his casting director, do any of them. But my thing is just like think about the original movie in the original movie, you have Tommy Lee Jones and veteran. Okay. Tommy Lee Jones, as, as a character is a veteran. He's on the verge of retirement. We start with him with his with his partner who's older than he is. You know what I mean, and that, dude, retires? And then it has a nice care MR stakes of that are, so if they feel very real. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And then, and so you have, and he's like straight laced. He's by the book, straitlaced by the book. No nonsense. You know, very confident, but then you have this other kid who's, like new to supposedly new flashy doesn't do things by the book, you know, but will, but has so much passion would like do anything to get the job done. And then we see we see that encapsulated with Will Smith running after a person who wants to being an alien, but he like even the aliens throw him off because he still going to do his thing. He outsmarts does all this stuff, so very cool. And they're like, oh, I like this guy. Right. But there's a clash between their personalities which is so funny throughout the movie. But the other thing in terms of casting, Tommy Lee Jones, even at this point is a very well respected actor a veteran actor who is capable who is capable of doing comedy, but it's incredible at drama. Right. And then you have Will Smith who. Is also capable of doing drama, but isn't credible at comedy now as much as I again, as much respect. I have both of these actors, we do not have an equal pairing of this, because one neither of them are considered veterans. You know what I mean Tessa Thompson, who supports now the straight laced person even though she's in the rookie position. As much as like I've liked her in the thing. She's cast in. I won't. I wouldn't I can't you can't let necessarily she's not yet at the Oscar caliber, you know what I mean, she still has some, some more years to put in and she's not in, like Chris Hemsworth as funny as he can be. He's not a super skilled comedian also he's done one role. That's really funny. Also, the problem, I think, and I think all the men in black of had this problem after the first one is that but because wills myth became so funny in the first one it lost ground in this of it. So to two things happen to me like what you don't see. And I think the thermal was trying. I think the billon is a big deal emit in black, the sticks were so heavy because Edgar was terrifying. Right. Editor was terrifying. You know what I'm saying also echo was legit going around, killing people like legit shove someone in a fridge at one point. He breaks the guy in half like just like see him broken in half. So to me, is, like everyone at that point, no matter how many jokes Will Smith has the weight of the situation is always there might even Vincent, the Nafi who did at your. There were funny moments like the opening scene with him like asking for more water, and like pulling up his face. Like that's funny. But it's also scared. It's terrifying because he realized that Elliott. Doesn't get it. Whereas this movie made us difficult is that everyone is joking. You know what I mean? So must think Tessa Thompson's character was a little bit more grounded. But to me at that point. I was fused on who they wanted the comedy. Yes. Like who, who was supposed to do what that certain point percents? She was the thing was Sheba comes at the very time when she becomes a man in by, and just this here. Before. But this thing she, she's supposed to be the human, right? She wanted to figured it out 'cause she she's figured out, she's the cocktail. Right, cool. She's a little bit of the problem is Chris Hemsworth is also the Kaku and way more cocky, yeah, and this is the problem, I had with this is the problem, I had with the Ghostbusters reboot. 'cause I was like everybody wanted to do the fun thing where Mike. So what has to do the straight person thing percents beat a crazy person? But like no one wanted everyone wanted to have fun. Whereas I can't tell who I I don't have. I you guys know this, I don't have a barometer for that stuff. Like I didn't notice it. I didn't notice in in Ghostbusters. And I also didn't notice that in this, but you, you breaking it down this way, I totally I definitely see that they're both cocky into their butting heads that way. She's cocky, until he comes muffing she's met cocky, like, even when she's talking. Oh, she's like, yeah. I'm the best will here. Blah, like she even was she see her guns check, please, like she's cocky in until she would it doesn't feel. Here's the thing that I didn't like about it is that it seemed like they are trying to imbue certain Will Smith 'isms into her where it doesn't feel now it doesn't even feel natural Tessa Thompson, but also doesn't feel natural to the character because it's like issue supposed to be super cocky like that. Like the whole first of all, as much as I liked the callback to the beginning thing, the beginning doesn't set up this person's character rehab in a different way her character. Like it's just like it's just her as a little girl like seeing her. Seeing like seeing the men in black. You know, seeing an alien not getting Noor lies and then she's like she does a kind thing, which is nice, but it felt like just a kid thing, and it wasn't something, it's not like that character trait that we saw her as a kid carried over into the movie. It didn't it did it at all. It had nothing to do with her success. And then it was just like all of a sudden we get we see her in the future. She super smart. She knows how to hack into things. She so good that she's like she can get into any agency. This is supposed to be funny that she's like applying to the agencies and she's like trying to be like, you know. I want where the aliens, and they're like, oh, she's crazy. And I'm just like first of all, it's doesn't feel realistic to me that she would think that in the application process, they're going to tell her about this thing even if they knew about it, it's like wouldn't you be, and it would have really annoyed me was like. In the first men in black movie, during the whole during Will Smith like like, you know, doing the trials or whatever you know, he was with a bunch of people who are high leads of the military, FBI CIA, meaning, if she just entered that program, it's possible, they would have thought that they were going to do, like I thought that like she was going to be like, in the FBI forbid, and then they were gonna find her and that would've made more sense. Yeah. And, and the other that I had in this in line with this is we see all of that from her. But then the second she gets into my be, she's pretty much a second fiddle to Chris Hemsworth, doesn't get to doesn't actually get to demonstrate any of that. Like they're there moments where she like detects things like, oh, I saw. I saw a thing, but we never get like why she does that whole thing where she like. It's like I'm actually fluent in such and such languages and I can do and I base off of the person that we saw her before she got in, I believe that to be true like there's no easy light about, but that was a lie. But there's no reason that, that should have been a lie understand. It felt like you know what this is? And I think this situation where like. Now, does your tell me about two men? It was like, I think, for me, for instance I feel like I won't point, this was two men and somebody was like, hey, this should be a woman, and they're like, oh, this should be a woman of color. And then they had to go back in and at little lines of like she likes them now. Yeah. You know what I mean I it felt it was women in black. If felt tweet my God, it felt tweaked, you know what I mean it felt like an infield genuine. It didn't feel like do feel like a woman wrote the script was like a right a movie, and it's going to be like one of the ages will be a woman and be the Li like it didn't feel like it because it felt like it was like that. I'm pretty sure Tessa would have had to fund stuff. Right. Chris wouldn't if I'm telling, you know, moment she goes to his desk, and they go out that night, all of that cockiness is gone is like on that cognizance gone. Chris is still the one that's like the rebel bad ass, when or whatever she becomes more straight laze in. Then not only that, but a lot of comedy is my from Kumhal say, come. All right. Has a lot of shows that resume and that's the first mission. The first, but once they go, there is like he's there, the entire time, giving you jokes and the numbers might be isn't like that. The comedy comes from this relationship in front. Yeah. In from like this. Boerner kind of pug, Frank. The pug is in one scene. Yeah. Maybe two, but then immediately in the second one, I COO, Frank two hours of Frank, right? Like a mmediately tried to do. They also did the also did this thing with undercutting Will Smith in the second one as well. They were like okay. He can't. We can't have him now. No stuff, like you know what I mean, like, yes, the now the second time Jones because he has to be second fiddle, which is I don't know. I don't know. It didn't feel it didn't feel g win felt like in a difficult. Every time I look at these actors, I love, his actors, it's just like this wasn't it? We got a sponsor sponsor man. We got helixsleep baby helix sleep, you want a good matches. Look, there's nobody on the planet who doesn't like good matches. 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It's not like you don't think Tommy, you're like, oh, she's doing her thing, and sort of put somebody who's not a comedian into move into a movie that, like was written so much for the comedy more so than the realism of it, and then, like have her play like sometimes play the voice of reasons. Sometimes be the cocky, one like just made it just made it like like. Hemsworth, who is just doing his thing. And even though I recognized the movies on good. I still Mike. Oh, but Chris Hemsworth, really and Koumas doing his thing to like it doesn't make any sense like that character doesn't make any sense in a movie, but he's still funny because he's doing comedic thing. I gotta piss update this movie. They wanted to make all right. So bagging the straight laced cop rookie fast talking blackout. Right. They needed to do is a needed to be. Chris Hemsworth is one of the like and again, this is not saying Sex's on purpose. But would it should have been? It should have been like this, dude. Who doesn't wanna partner doesn't want a woman partner you saying, I got never need a partner Thompson comes in super versed in everything the best in the class prow I mean, because there's no conflict of, there's no conflicts on. Alison no person who doesn't wanna wanna partner out need like now is like. Like we have conflict now we have now because see, like some of his ways versus like what she can do. We can do a thing for their team up in the movie. The, the reason that it's like if felt like the laziest literally, the reason they're together, we lazy reason together is because she she she has she gets sent to m I b international, which, by the way still doesn't make sense, because at the end the moves he's like, oh, I knew something was, and I wanted to send you because you really smart, and I was like why? Officials. No imprint visual agent, but, but also one that and then two with no information, just amazing. Amazing. You just lose like follow up like just discover this whole thing by herself how okay. And then, so she gets there, and we have the scene where an alien a woman alien is like with mind control. Is like slowing Chris Hemsworth down to like make him walk by really sexy and Tessa Thompson. I still don't know to this day, whether her character romantically as interested Adonia, and Chris. They fuck it the end of the movie. They definitely do. They fly off in that in that in that there is. But you don't like the movie was, like was like, I guess we shouldn't say this, but they like put it in there anyway. So it was like the most watered down version of that. And then she literally is just looking at him. And then she just goes, like I should be on your case. First of all, I was like she wasn't partnered. This is what I wanted to this was what I was going to say was just I, I understand that. You guys had an issue with, with the casting of this movie, I didn't have a problem with the Casio's movie. I, I thought that the actors themselves did find but shit like that. Like may know like the, the characters made no sense, Bo. Both of them, right? We're supposed to think something is off with Chris Hemsworth, right? Because he's his behavior is bizarre and erotic, but he's some he some hero. But then from scene to scene, it didn't make like I couldn't tell in that first scene if he was just not doing his job or if he was actually on a case for him. I b or what? And that was not explained. But, but I mean, the whole the whole movies. I don't know is like what is he what was he like, before, the, the newer Leuser? We will never know right? Because it wasn't the New Orleans change. And then she and then right because. Well, well, I think the reason I think the reason is his career defining moment is something that he has no actual memory of because he didn't because he didn't do anything so he's not he's building off of his what makes him him, you know, in my being actually that makes sense that felt that felt so he changed is because he probably wasn't that great of an agent before, and then he was told that he saved the world and because he was totally say the world, he became this, like, really pompous cocky, dude who felt like he was the best agent nothing but his wit, but he actually wasn't good. He actually was never a good agent was actually not. That's not that bright. Yes. Right. That's the whole idea, definitely not the top dude, you know, but he now had to like exist as the top, dude. Like he's not the top, dude. Why? Okay. That kind of makes them. And then and then I just the thing that you were talking about before I before I start this was I, I really hated that. The thing that brought them together was something as thin as that, but could have been bigger because we did establish that, like she, like she was like, I have no lie like my life has been finding out aliens. I don't like I don't I honestly don't like that. Her whole thing was wanting to be a men in black because she saw them when she was a kid it doesn't make any sense. It makes way more sense to me that she wanted to know about aliens, or whatever it was like figuring out like what if she just figured out, what was happening apart from the men in black, and they were like holy crap? She's like cracking our case for since you don't even know like you know what I mean. Also, the weird thing that you like try to find the men in black. And like, I don't know like what, what purpose of that doesn't like the movies. Because I feel like thought about this before, like the whole thing was always like, oh, she's, she's told us twice like they bring up the fact that she has no love life, you know what I mean. Because reason for that. Yeah, bring it up a few times. And I'm like, there's something about where I'm like, I don't know why when it's a lead woman character to make her tougher than everyone else. She can't fall in love and can't have a love life. Yeah. Whereas like a man a man, if it comes up, he's like is handled different is they do not address it in the first minute black, and they only bring it up in the second black because of the dousing character, but it's not even it and the first the first one this thing in the first one will hit someone that Dr the entire move is right? The higher movie would be for sure. You know what I'm saying? He is in his not. Is this weird because I feel like there's been a bunch of movies. I watch. I've talked about this a few times, even when not to about Star Wars, like, oh, I thought big levels going to be between right Ray in fair. But all of a sudden, like you know, supposed to fuck that, but, but my thing is like, is this a weird thing? Whereas like why can't it takes the human? It takes a human out of her to me like you just use her catcher of somebody that you want. You made her, like, was that call that carrying to call, like the, the, the good at everything? Like Ray is no is usually is us. That's for a bipartisan before women usually look it up. Well, yes, but then, but then also to that to that end is, you know, that was her life before men in black? She just didn't pursue anything. But then I think we're supposed to believe that like she's not blind. She liked goes up to Chris Hemsworth, and she's like, okay, I'm gonna work when you know what I mean? Like she thinks he's attractive. Yeah. So I don't I don't think. I don't think that they were trying to. I know it. I think it's just poorly executed. I don't think that they literally how they get paired up as like she thinks he's attractive. And then she just walks up to him and she's like I think I should be your partner. Yeah. And it's like what Mary sue? That's what is yes, we this, right? Okay. Because what they do to her in this movie is like, again, she's the best computers. You know what I'm saying? Like nowhere like she lily gets a job at the FBI like CIA and then doesn't work at any of them for no is working this back at a computer center. Right. I'm fine with that with this is the thing of like I don't maybe it's just me but like every time we have a super tough women like the thing wonder woman did that was really well, is that one woman was able to own everything by she's able to owner strength or intelligence and our sexuality. Right. Like hooked up with Chris pine and kept moving. It didn't Depp in her brains didn't dampener strength. But sometimes these movies, it's like. Oh, wait. So you're saying like that is supposed to be a weakness. Oh. She's that dope. It won't matter like you and do that to the do. Right. Exactly. I the so the other thing. Okay. Just real quick 'cause like too much time. But like we're done late twins was the. Gosh, what's Phillies right now? Here's the thing when I saw the chiller, they were the only thing that I was excited about because I, I, I think there's such incredible dancers soco, and I was like there is a way. It's like if they don't speak and just they are doing really cool movements. There's a way that they can be super menacing. Now. What I didn't know was that they would be CGI half the time we saw them. And then. Like. I think the scene. That's so like the Pitta me of, of misuse the MRIs of boys, like they have a scene in which they dance now. It doesn't make any sense why they're dancing. Why? There. You know what I mean not the club? They're both. So Dan, they literally one day literally start dancing. And I was like I was like, okay. Now, I understand that you had to get like you have to you want to you want to get them to dance. Now you could a freaking came up with something to make make it make sense. You didn't. But then on top of them, forcing them, the dance, they took the footage and sped it up to make it look like they were moving faster than doing real life. And I'm like, first of all, they moved so fast and real life, and it's incredible took the one thing that I wanna see them dancing, and then you're screw with the footage. It's also it's, it's hard that they in that scene because they're trying to be covert, right? Like they're trying to not be. That if anyone saw them do it. They would be attack. You know. Them you have the two guys who can dance if you wanna see the move like that they're going to cooperate into their dance. It I mean fighting. Fight fight. They won't be able to hit them because they're gonna be also I don't think we even address yet. We learn for second. They are not the bag as they've been murdered and as never addressed. Not only that it's like their, their home world was being attacked. We don't low about their home and then. There's like this. Several genocides happened in this film, the other the other raise that komo's apart of them die. The Queen is all them are dead. Yeah. The use it as a joke, like they're like, I don't know like shoe here. This guy we let him kill himself. I was like a kinda wanna see I kinda wanna see what is happening. Also were pissed me off. Is that this dude has a gun that like is a real gun and then anytime he we need him to be helpful. He doesn't the gun until the very end. And that again, and I was like, where was this whole time was the rocket to pair was the rocket. What was the pet? Because time way, the rocket PEC running around flying in the air, and they're like, he's like helped me and it's like just use your us around. Packet, just you're fine. All of a sudden he lily at the end of the movie he is with a jetpack in to grab lingers. To Mike you had as the whole time. And yet, there's a moment where you're on the person shoulder. And then you like hit him with the sword. You could have popped there with the freaking also he's he was strong. She's being put on a worm. Oh, my main his rocket is as strong. The right time. I was saying, I was is the only thing. I get very annoyed by Kemal, and I was probably, I enjoy. One of the best. Honestly, I was like I liked homegirl who's funny was homegirl from she's from other things. But the thing that I just now had a flash. I realized I knew from was she plays the opera singer in greater showman. The forearmed. She the same woman from our mission impossible. I wanna say I wanna say, yes, she's I just couldn't tell. But. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is headed notes us from the greatest show. Yeah. Yeah. She she I thought she was great. She showed up. I was like, all right. Let's I'll watch two more hours. This. Fergus Rebecca Ferguson. Yes. Yes, she was impossible rogue nation. And then also the one low right in the end. I thought that her those scenes were fun. That's the thing. The thing is like, so much of the so many of the big set pieces were fun for me, and I enjoyed watching him, and it just made me so mad that it took us Alana. Get there. I was excited, I was excited when the, the little creature came back, and it was that guy. That was really fun. They get good ideas. It was tough because in the thing is I really don't think it was at Gary great. You know what I mean? I think for the most part in looked beautiful. The pacing was the action step. He's were great the pacing, I was okay with, it was just a script foot like I don't know, man in a sucks, because sucks because I do these movies going to do really bad and is like this. This was Tessa Thompsons. I like co lead lead, like big budget. Wait, do not consider creed. I don't know. She she big budget. She bothering sheen on is tough. She is. 'cause to me is like, when when we first came out, she was in that movie was marketed as Michael Jordan and still own. Whereas this is marketed as the post is tesla, and then his in his, Chris, I'm like this is her movie in. It's an right property like this really could this could have relaunched a franchise it if they had it been to women and be like, have you had the commentary the commentary on, like, Why's it caught the men in black because the brain shading that'd be two women. Shake it. There was this movie was always gonna fail. I don't I because the sequels because no actual minute. Black sequel has been good. I'm just saying you mean just like it's I'm not looking at this movie like, oh, if they only did XYZ I just feel like from top to bottom. Yeah. Like the cat. I just feel like the pairing of these to the story. They try to tell the way that the, the characters like I thought Terminator was done after five. I thought that that was going to be I thought four was going to be the nail McCaw, and then they were salvation, we're going to do five, and I was like okay, and then I saw it, and I thought that was going to be now they're going to do one more. I don't know. I am because men in black is so believable. What are you black? So beloved I feel like had. They just had the stars align with this other movies. You're talking, the other Terminator movies, aren't good. Yeah. What I'm saying, but they still but they still. The new one five they still keep trying. But I feel like none of them, none of them tank ceus. But, but this is my thing, though. Would it comes in it like the new one I will see, but 'cause the new one the people who made the one that was is back for this. That's because here's the thing Terminator, Terminator two was better than Terminator one, right? Yeah. So this is what I'm saying you get a couple back, but because men in black two was bad and three was bad. It's like this is the last it's like how many bad ones are we going to wash before, like we're not watching anymore movies that you keep making? And then you didn't even bring back the original like it's not like Tommy Lee Jones Will Smith can act still. And so it's like you didn't even it's like they didn't even want to be a part of this. They didn't even show up to do cameos like to. I mean there is like. The tone. But also, this is the thing like this movie has tone whereas like. Like the Baywatch is like, again is so playful. I can't take anything that's happening in it serious because no one else is, is like, again, the real tough part is like, I think we're bracing the actors in the first minute bike were so good. And they played it. So real even with bunny things were happening. The reason the reason Edgar exit from water is funny is because he is playing this alien is like thirsty. You know that big ass. You're like, oh, he needed the situation really. But they're playing like is not. They also have way too much. Thank CGI. And they've had that had that since men in black two, it's just like the overuse of CGI black movies is, I can't, I can't talk, the first one practical effects the practice. And yes, there is CGI in it like the cockroaches CGI course. Yeah. You have to worm guys are not they're public. And they've been pretty much CGI for. And it's like you have a do with, like an alien with a thing on his face. And you're just like a puppet, there's just so much stuff. It was like we talked about this with to where they took a little parts from the first one, and they're like, oh, it'd be funny if we just do this. But more. Oh, I hate. Okay. I hated in this movie when the one of the best parts of the first men in black is when Will Smith like pushes the little bell. Red button. When he put the little red button, we push the ball and the ball like that in the ball like goes all of them. I be and he's, he's so it's crazy fucked up so badly. And this caused the nineteen seventy something. Yeah. That's great. That's so funny again. No. And they tried to do that, again in this win the like creature comes up to end cheap. But that's just. In the first one, it's a character who is who is really a fish out of water who is like trying to act like he's down. And he belongs touches the thing and he messes up right in this doesn't know what's, what's happening in this movie it, someone who we know, for fact has like studied, she has study. She's she knows all the ins and outs. And then just by happenstance. She just touches a weird doesn't make any sense character her character. This movie is, is literally nothing. It's just an amount of nation of different things. They were trying to do like there. There is. No character. It's like the beginning the first time we see her character is just setting up like a thing for. The movie. It's not it's not like her kindness, is what pulls her through the film, and that's an it's the kind that, that made of impact on alien in the beginning, you know, and then it's not even like her, like her curiosity is what pulls her through the film. Right. And then it's like, and then it could be like the moment where these moment when the guy gives her the gun, the thing that we learned is the gun could have been like I've read your that you're very kind, you know what I mean? Like it could have been connected to that date. It's like why did he trust there? It doesn't even his, his power was to people in figure out wasn't he supposed to be a bad guy like he was an arms dealer, something like all this other political stuff. That was happening that I was just like what anyway, let me tell you. Quick want to say you know, we don't have to reboot everything unless you have a fresh take just just let it be good. The one of the best things I heard is like when it came up to the sequel to brass maze. It was like, no, we made a perfect movie. I mean, like we did it the job is done, if we did another one, it would only be to dampen, this brand damp in his movie, and just make money. And then people would not like it was like why vita we do this very said, the second third men in black were critical successes like yet. It may money but no one was like, we got to damn got to get men and bike. Again. Also, what is Hollywood remake these Will Smith movies, and putting white dues in it, like, what surreal going on what is to deal with, and it's a himself, brother, every time I mean, I like this more than true. That's true. Whether every like, what are we going to do what you're gonna do is going to be another one in bad, boys? 'cause like not our own is fun. It's the young rival team going to be like a white. That's so funny. Oh, I, I hope that happened. Hey, how Hollywood make that? Saying is, is that there's so many fresh ideas out there that you can make cheap and you can just start your own franchise. You know what I'm saying? Maybe just make one good movie with a possibility of a sequel, but as make one move, we don't need to keep rehashing stuff into dampening people's childhood. Go ahead. I was just going to say that I just because we don't have this perspective on the podcast because it's just like we just been way too busy. It sorry. Guys couldn't begin guests and stuff like that. But I am sure that it is nice, you know, just in terms of representation to see Tessa Thompson, you know leading a role to see a black woman in a role like this that you don't get too often. She's a bad, and I, and I and I do think, and I well, at least I hope that we're at a point when which a movie like this bombing won't hamper the options or ability. You know what I mean that they won't be Thor? She's fine. Yeah, I just hope that they don't. Yeah. You're right. You're right. So I just like your. I don't think they will. I'm just saying like so we have the ability to bomb like this. So it's like I don't know. Like you know, but there is a part of me that's like man like they could have made this. I don't know. I feel like they could have had a, it's just I just find it interesting the way that they did this because it's like. You had a formula, and it's like you didn't even stick to the formula. But, like anyway, go ahead. What were you gonna? I was going to send it west, the just the only thing I wanted to say was. Minna black too is good. So just just so that, that can just be out there. You know what I mean? Many black two's, pretty pretty great Dawson's in that one. Yeah. You say many black to Yemen two's, pretty great just want to make sure I said that we reviewed men in black African love to okay. I don't know what's happening fantastic. Are you saying this? That's what you wanted to say. That's it. Many black to is this is this new bit. This is my I know what he's doing. Your new business. Bit. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all this is a bit now is good. Okay. We, we do need to say anything, about the end of this movie. What happens at the end the end? They definitely have sex at the end. Right. Because she is just in my man's car driving. Yo he walks up to the car, push the in the car. Has. All right. We review films. Whether or not they helped the cause more leading black actors in Hollywood film, a film, feel, the film fully 'cause we go to fist someone helped the 'cause we give it a white pomp feeling didn't help the cause it out. We don't give it anything guys on the count of three. We're going to do this. Goodness shit here. Not none of like we don't like it. Okay, does not matter if we like it just does it support the cause more actors. Why are you taking so much? I know. Are you trying to convince you all right? Three. I'm doing I'm doing this. You gotta go. Go ahead. I'll, I'll say why. The palm was given by Jonathan Braila. Okay, good. Movie. The movie palm for on the casting directors. Here's what. Here's what I just think here's why I'm going to say this. Maybe it's to route, I think, tests Thompson's career before this movie is fine. I think be okay. I think it'll be fine after this. But you could have you could've just made somebody's career by putting them in this film. That was that had a career, but didn't have this kind of movie success. And you didn't do it because you were like, Well, Chris Hemsworth, and Tessa Tomsa were together. And ragnarok. So let's put them together in this movie because they already have chemistry and it's like Wilson and Tommy Lee Jones were never in a movie. And they have some of the best chemistry of all time, stop. Not like I don't like the fact that we can't bet on black people. You and I mean I don't like that. We, it's like they have to be proven in some fashion, by, like other stuff. And you can't just pick somebody who is like, really funny. Really good. You know what they do, but hasn't been given in this kind of opportunity, and it just feels like it feels lazy to me and it feels uninspired and I'm really, really not anything against has Thomson. It really is. Just like you could have had a black woman in here that doesn't have a significant movie career yet. But like has the chops that do this kind of thing. And like even if the movie wasn't great really puts that person on the mat, whereas has already on the map, you know what I mean. I do understand that this gives. So I gave it upon because it was like it's still is still will help it helps in the whole general. 'cause but I'm just like, I don't know man. Sometimes I, I, I don't know we never never gonna give anybody that, that much of a. A plug because it's like we we're not allowed to do that. Will smith? He did in on the map. Yeah. That the time of day. Thank you. Thank you. Jonathan Bray lock for your your, your closer remarks. Jonathan Bray lot, just. People can make sure that voice saying your full name because that wasn't that wasn't. That was not James, the adrenaline Jonathan Braila. Wow. Who? Break just said is not a false statements. James. An uphill. Man. I mean come on now. I mean listen. No, no. James third. I respect you opinion James to take you this a landmark up. Are you going to say why you gave this movie? I am scared. Kid us. I say honesty, right? Listen because we Witkin to close. I thing we hear me out here. We do think that our listeners needs to note that a certain point. Sir point you go. Wake up one morning and none of this pocketing a. Be a newer allies. Joe? Charlize dolphins memories. Listen because we we saw. Three years ago, the handle job. All right. Okay. Let's. Let's. Okay. There's, there's a strong likelihood about an end of the year. We will see Tessa Thompson. Or f Gary great. That is a strong case, but this thing too about it straight up. I do not like this. I do, but I will say and I agree what kinda Johnson too? I do think we could had a new actress be put into this movie. But I do think this was a stepping stone for to sit Thompson, because it was a lead, as she's afra- Latina. So it I'm even looking all our already articles defending the movie, but because of what you're like everyone's saying, because black woman is starring in this is like, what is all the hate for? And also f Gary gray is, is getting bigger and better things at the end of the day is like a Safran. The script the movie looks, beautiful movie looks clean be looks neat. I thought the action set pieces went really, well, I mean for the most part, I've really think they handled CDI character like Kamal so well, because that kind of character normally gets annoying rural fast, you know. So I thought he thought everyone did the best that they could do think we're saying it was miscast but at the end of the day, I'm giving it a fist, because I'm not going. You know, I'm not trying to get, you know, Gyari said thing. All right. Well, nobody gave it a fisa arrive. Milligan. If you wanna use a quote poster. Here's what I do that. I do think this film was miscast and that quote is by Gerard while militant. Wow. All right. J. Aches spell. The name James, this is James. I gave a fist because I believe this movie deserves a. I. Smart. Smart rectify f Gary gray. It's directed by f Gary gray when I saw Friday I thought it looked so fucking good. And I was like, who directed this movie because it looks amazing. And now this man just buck in men in black international, and that's amazing. And he, he was almost gonna do winter soldier. Whichever one he was going to do one of those one of those Jane, what you see what I'm doing. Yeah, you're saying this. Do not like change the wing Connecticut. All right. Go ahead. There's no telling truth. Okay. It was right by grain. It starts says the Thompson, and that's amazing for both of them. I don't know if it could have been somebody else, I think that this, I liked the casting of this, and I enjoyed these two actors in mind. Say. My soul. I know it didn't make a lot of money. But I feel like I feel like you know, go out, go see it go support, because, you know, we need to have more leaving black actors more black directors and film. Wow. Wow, stop. Don't do this to me. Wow, you saved that was going to say both of us to actually more reckless. All right. For those of you. I I I'm you, can you get at man pike is on Twitter, Instagram, black pockets dot com. Our website there, you can find links to our merch. Find links to our patriot. We got new patriot episodes coming out soon. We reviewed an episode of when they see us that will come out soon. 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