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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/6/20--Guest Kenny McPeek

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/6/20--Guest Kenny McPeek

"Narrow maximum security has been defeated for. This is the Jason Beam Racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for Horse Racing News interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host Jason. Be around good Wednesday morning. You are. Welcome to the Jason Horse Racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires a proud proud sponsor of the show. Happy but with you here on this may the sixth and look forward to what will be a little bit of a par- up show. I mentioned yesterday. He didn't hear Had some tremendous audio difficulties with with Kenny. Mcpeek during our interview and they all seem to be coming from my end and Kenny was remarkably patient. We had to do like four call. Backs try tried restarting. I tried doing all this stuff and toward the end it started happening again. There's a few spots so I'm GonNa play what I got the interview. It's probably ten minutes but there's a few spots where it Kinda cuts out for. Just a second which is honestly to annoying. But it's annoying but it's not. It's not all that bad but toward the end it got real bad one or two times and I just can't. I'm so sorry I know you're busy guy. And he was very gracious about the whole thing and I still think he had some good things to say about his fantasy stakes winner. From this past week's with skydivers. We'll talk about that race. There was a lot of talk afterwards. You know the big favourite was was a harbor who was well backed and went pretty quick. Upfront and Swiss skydiver. Kenna came to her but then Venetian harbour. Dug in before was skydiver kind of propelled at the end prevailed at the end and. I don't know that there's this thought that you know if the horse would have slowed down a little bit that there would have had more late which is entirely possible. I mean that's you know the fundamentals of pace handicapping our if you know if you go slower earlier able to have more late and if you go faster. Lee sometimes you get worn out late and therefore the closers pick you up. But I don't know that it's necessarily all that true that if a horse ran you know to fifth slower and backed it up just a little instead of maybe running off or You know that would make that much of a difference a mile into a race when it's down to a showdown between two horses. Kinda just gotten it out for the last you know sixteenth eighth of a mile. I mean theoretically it should but I just don't know if that's the case like You know I just feel that. I know there's a lot of things going to a race but I don't know that Venetian harbour slowing down a touch or to make real difference in the end. I know it. I know you want to think that it does and it may have well have but I don't know that it's that. Was that much of a difference between winning and not winning this particular and Venetian harbour is still a very lightly raced horse and she picked up. Some much-needed oaks points and I to think that her connections are you fine with where they're at and where they're heading but so we won't play the Kenny mcpeek interview here in just a few moments. I am going to do another segment of race. I Love I. We'RE GONNA go back to two thousand five to Hollywood park. I've talked about this race times because it's an important race to me personally but we'll replay the audio as well and the audio is the important part to me but the race itself. I thought just had a lot of neat things going on with it during it and after it. So we'll talk about the two thousand five American oaks at Hollywood park a coming up a little bit later also WanNa take a little look at the. Ntr a pole that's right the NPR. A poll is out and I've always said it's not really something I mean I. I don't care about vote in it but it's you know sometimes fun to talk about. I used to have a a segment called hating on the N. T. R. A. And had its own. Music will well. I really went all out with the production on on that one but You know the reason I wanNA at least talk about the NTR. A poll in this instances because it is the three zero one. I think a is kind of easy to do right now. Because we're still in that progressing toward the Derby and the Derby obviously will change all of that and I guess the Belmont could if it if it happens beforehand and I know rumors. Are THAT IRIS? Trying to get back going around Memorial Day weekend. So we'll see what they decide to do with the Belmont. I saw Baffert came out and said that he he wouldn't run it if it was a mile and a half Jewish. It's funny because it is a mile and a half in June. Normally like you know that's the normal thing and you'd honestly be coming into it off more rest because it's not like his horses would be running in the preakness in two weeks. Even though they ran on Derby Day in the Arkansas Derby. But you know I mean. He was asked the question and he answered it. And you know for years. We saw Bobby. Frankel kind of use his power to kind of you know sway away from weights and handicap divisions like. He would make a big deal out of any threatened scratch and tracks tracks want to have the superstars in their big races. And they obviously want to have Bobby Frankel in their big races and his it was his way of kind of I think Not only maybe getting something done for that particular race but in the future to like the Weights Committee or whoever decides in the way sometimes. It's just the racing secretary Sometimes there is a full committee. I was part of the Committee of Portland Meadows and You know they might. They might know how God if we make this horse. One twenty five instead of one. Twenty three bobby. Frankel is GONNA make noise about it. And he's GonNa Scratch and you know so you. Kinda plant that seed. I almost wondered if you know Baffert like I said he was answering the question but I wonder if he's kind of like trying to plant the seed like. Hey if we want these superstar baffert horses. Who are two of the. He's got three of the top four in the N. T. R. E. poll right now. Tis The laws. The only non baffert in the top four Kim Guillermo at five watching that race again we talked about it. Monday of course but Watching the second division that Arkansas Derby I can gear Moran Great Man. I really think he. You know backed up his Tampa Bay Derby and It did make dolls re kick look a little bit more impressive to because I was maybe focusing on Kim gear that time but honore P and six solve Allante and Ian Max Field. Rumor is he possibly Will be making an appearance in the Matt Win at Churchill Week to The fact he's still on the top ten is pretty interesting. I think it speaks to a the maybe lack of depth right now in this three year old division because as I said when we had Brennan on a couple of weeks ago sometimes not running is the best thing in terms of rating and public perception. You haven't proven you're you're going to lose. I mean that's you know when you look at a bad maiden race a lot of times you get horses who have run five six seven eight nine ten twenty times you know. Sometimes you look to the new shooter simply because they haven't proven how bad they are and I'm obviously Mac. `field is proven that. He's a very talented runner. But you know. He did that early middle of his two year old season. We haven't seen him since then so he's still getting some street cred based on. I think people projecting that he might be good but We really won't know until we see him back to the racist but I had no as far as hating on the a poll segment. I had no real strong opinions on the the three year olds because I feel like right. Now they're kind of easy to to rank. The top thoroughbred poll is is is interesting because maximum security is like this big asterisk in there right. He seventh and total points. But he's second in first place votes and he would be first in. First Place Votes. He'd be a landslide first place votes if it wasn't for you know what came out about. Jason surface so obviously some of the voting committee is still perplexed. I think I saw that. He was back in training. Now with. And it's GonNa be weird to see the new maximum security Post Post Service. I I mean I can't imagine baffert would a run him if he didn't think he was ready to do something. Good but also you know. I just don't imagine the horse was running bad for for Baffert but we'll see he's ranked seventh right now. Overall Thomas Day todd at six seems a little bit odd have been. I don't object to that at all. Muccio Gustav that one. I kinda have questions about but by my standards ahead of Tom's Day. Todd seems of interesting and Zulu Alpha still up. There you know cece moved all the way up to fifth ahead of Tom Day. Todd I guess that one Perplexes me as well but Whitmore at eight Mr Freeze night. Code of Honor Tenth WanNa tells me to as I mean we are. We are very void of superstars right now because these are literally the top horses running aside from three year olds and some Nice Horses. Good quality horses all that kind of stuff but Outside of midnight be Su. I can't really and maybe maximum security. I mean there are to me. There's not there's not very many horses that You know put put butts in seats so to speak Know Big names and all that kind of stuff they obviously have time to carve that out but part of carving out being a big name is is against some other big names right. I mean even you know Songbird who was very very good you know. She got beat by beholder but to me she kind of proved or metal a little bit that day because she really dug in against you know who? We had kind of assumed in called a atop kind of runner so You know I know all that the polls and stuff are in the end. Don't mean a whole lot but sometimes it's fun to talk about. Let's take a quick time out. We'll do just one little commercial and Kenya. Mcpeek will join us. As I mentioned it will be a little bit chopped up and I really really apologized. Not only to you guys but to Kenny about it but We did have a good chat for what we did get in. So we'll do that right. After this short break Jason Horseracing podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires is your home for wagering on horse racing from all around the world. Sign up today and take advantage of our one dollars. Sign up bonus when you wager. Five hundred dollars has a twin spires player. You'll receive free Brisbane at past performances. Live video race replays. Realtime racing information and much more plus you can now split tickets with other players using bet share program on twin spires that allows players to split their vets with other members for more information visit twin spires dot com all right here on the horse racing. Podcast pleased to welcome in our next guest. Whose VOLT book graded stakes winning trainer. Who this past week settled so skydiver to a winning the Green. Three fantasy stakes. Please welcome back. Kenny mcpeek to the show. Kenny how are you? I'm doing super. Thank you appreciate you coming on a big score for your philly. You posted some pictures so I was assuming you're on track how how surreal was watching a race like that with like twenty people around you. Yes definitely unusual You you're so used to having a huge crowd especially oaklawn and You know for them to unfortunate but It's a great place to go racing and I think they did a good job. On under the circumstances she She sat behind the favourite early on and I thought Brian Road tactically very good race. Kinda snuck up into second on that I turn and then went to apply pressure. Were you happy with where she was throughout the early stages of the race in which she kind of wear you expected her to be she was able to enter. I start she wiggled or in. Traffic came from next to last and one off easily so we knew we knew she could do it on. I think there were those that thought that the race at Gulfstream was kind of anomaly. In the she she got the easy lead and she's This phillies very professional. She's last three races. Going to turns have been per alley. Can you mention her her win? In the Gulfstream Park folks and people thinking. It was kind of an anomaly and I think lot of people were surprised at the speed. She showed that Dan pocket. I thought was brilliant. That day Was that a new dimension. She showed for you or were you kind of expecting that day for her to be out front. Well we had runner. Short Sheelah D- Pack especially in the race at Tampa. She really probably should have won that day. And she got off a step slow and then she had to circle the field wide and only gets beat about a length and Absorb frustrating and that. We think she should have won that day but then from there was okay. Look we've gotTA get straight to to turns because we all know that the big races are two turns and most people don't realize that the stakes program in Florida isn't very conducive to finding to turn race for three year old filly They run the Devonian Dale Short at Gulfstream IV actually employee raises but the only one of auction was the son Costa Tampa. We mow to in it too so It's a situation where we had. The shipper had shepherd fairgrounds to run in the in the race. There I believe it was the silver bullet that day or forgetting The name of that one. But anyway we shipped over there then we had to had to Chip BACK DOWN TO GULFSTREAM ship. All over the board And but she's handled it really. Well she actually drive doing it. So quite proud of everything she's accomplished and I still think You were hunting for grade. One from here her I want to talk about her development in the sense that you know her debut last fall. Churchill's took a lot of money. It was a big field. Were you expecting what you saw from? Her debut was fantastic. Yeah her She had worked lights out going into that and that was one of those restricted money racist because she had run Awry Bader for thirty thousand so yeah so so that so that condition was was unique but she got that done easy enough and and then I was going to go to terms with her. But couldn't get A to turn race distill and we were hunting and hunting and hunting for two. Turner Right. It just didn't happen so we ran our one mile to act the seven eight and You know it's Since we've gone longer the better she does. You made some news. After the fantasy noting you might consider overseas trip with her with with everything pushed back in a lot uncertain. I imagined the plotting of schedules and stuff now is very unique for you guys. The schedules are moving target. Right now. You really just don't know because of everything happening and you know I think she's a Philly that will take to the term for that any trouble Now there's nothing listed in the US that she could point of any significance and the fact that a lot of their horses are going to be coming off Layoffs they haven't been running so we're GONNA be at a competitive advantage but We've got a lot of logistics works to figure out on that That shouldn't be terribly difficult. I've done it before Wesleyan I've worked together. I was sleeping and then Wesley Certainly perfected the trip And I've run well over there but I haven't won and it might be an opportunity to do something unique. Yeah I would think that knowing that you have the points and obviously you have the first Friday in September you know kind of spot guaranteed there. I mean I imagine that does help at least because you have a poll in the distance of kind of where you WANNA be in. Be Peaking and stuff well if she's training as well as she did going into this go A trip like that. I don't think so out of the question. I mean the euro's come over and back to run an eye races all the time. We just don't tend to go their direction very often. Hansa phillies value dramatically. If you can pull something like this all to prove that she can run on turf dirt. Medica- no medication. When you end up Bringing hurt auction or any of her foals dogs. And then I think you'll get people's attention and or worldwide attention and Peter Callahan's a guy that that that understands that he's bread Top horses and then evariste worldwide. And so he gets the big picture and and he seems at this point up for we've got like I said we've got some logistics to work out and figure out the timing and the details but It's possible we're going to see we're GONNA look at all really close. Can you repeat you on his here on the program? I know you've been primarily running horses at Gulfstream Park. The last few weeks are. Are You staying down in Florida? Are you still basing in Kentucky Right now well Guess yes The you know I spend about twenty straight years based at Gulfstream and then came back into Kentucky just firing away and young horses route Florida to shift it over to Gulf st or. I'm sorry shift over to Oakland for four or five seasons and had a had a over there that there with his young verses We made a an effort on that and it didn't work out. So I've shifted my tax per se back to Florida and And then we ship out of that base I own own summerfield training center and in Just south of Ocala. And we've got all our young horses there and then we've got the main division at Gulfstream but those horses are getting ready to rotate to towards Can All those details right now? Speaking of a Gulfstream Park you send out an envelope I I said that right To a fourth place. Finish in the honey Ryder. This weekend I know she debuted on the grass broke maiden last time out on the dirt. Had you been wanting to get back on the turf with that runner you're primarily Berkeley We couldn't get the to turn to go so we went in the grass We got the to turn race ago and in and that worked out well and she remained easily then we entered into fantasy because she was going to run as an entry was Wiscon- diver and she was to get excluded. So we after over to the Gardenia and she did get excluded there and then they had five scratches which is a little frustrating and then and then it was like okay. We've got her teed up. But where do we go? So we put her in the race at Gulfstream and I don't like the way pace of that race. Unfold for I I think that that we could have done a little better job tactically either way. It unfolded I think a little too aggressive going into the first turn. It didn't show much patience and we talked about that race But but now she'll shift back to the dirt and I'm probably going to take a little time with her and you'll probably see surface in June or July depending on timing. I think she's a Philly. That's got to run in I think she could be an oaks. Philly I mean she. She's she's shown she's got that kind of talent but at the the pattern hadn't fallen right in place on her as far as getting to regular dirt routine to turns. Well unfortunately this is where the audio really Kinda went. Bad and I tried to piece that together as much because I thought Kenny had some some good information and I just I so appreciate time like I said he was very patient and we tried to make it work in the the connection was just dropping out too much and it started getting real bad so we will get Kenny on another time. But really really appreciate his time and his What's the word I'm looking for patients? You know we're all I mean we're just we're all subject to the technology we have and it's It's working behavior at that particular time. Unfortunately it's going to happen every so often but Can't Kenny enough and we will be right back. After this short time out for little episode of Race I love coming up next here on a Wednesday edition of the Jason horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires twin spires not only offers the best way to play the racist from your desktop or mobile device. But we also have great offers for our players visit twinspires.com slash offers to check out all of our great daily promotions from our players. Pick FOUR BONUSES TO WIN. Sheri- thoroughbred to harnessed we have offers and promotions for all types of races and all types of tracks visit twin spires dot com slash offers to find out what operas are available to You. Jason Beam horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin spires. Is Your home for daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation? Join host Jason Bean. Has He discusses racing from around the country interviews jockeys trainers media personality and horse players every Monday through Friday. The show can be found at twin spires DOT COM or on. Itunes spreaker stitcher or wherever you get your podcast from the Jason Beam racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires are once again my thanks to Kenny mcpeek. And appreciate his time in the policies. You guys Indicating for having a kind of piece together that interview with the The technical issues we had We're GONNA do the erase. I love segment here in a moment but I wanted to mention an article that Matt Haggerty who we had on the show last week wrote about Per Race handle rising one hundred sixty four percent in April and the article basically says the. Us held seven hundred forty six races in April decline of seventy one percent But per race handle of course up significantly and it's very obvious number. I mean we know that there's way less track. So therefore you have the same or maybe a little bit less of betters now forced to wager on literally six or seven products so you know the the range of supply is diminished and therefore the demand at each of those places goes up and so Not surprised by that. I think you know there's been a lot of talk over the years about whether consolidation would be a good thing for racing at this point and I think that it. I think that this virus going to do that to a lot of industries. I think racing will not be untouched by that. I think so far. The only track that is literally shuttered. Because of this was a a greyhound track up Ermington Greyhound but you know harness obviously is there you know everybody starting to talk about picking up and going again and running again and it seems like each day. We're seeing another track. That's kind of cemented. Their plans and I think part of that momentum is you know it just took one or two places to kind of you know. Take a step out and say look. We're going to try to start this day. And you know makes you know the first step is always the the first person across the the line is always the one that has to deal with the most Blowback and so. We're GONNA start seeing that in other sports as well but I saw Louisiana announced. They're gonNA open June six. They're not going to run the Super Derby this year. I obviously wanted to have that person. Money for their folks who support their card On a daily basis in terms of But it'll be interesting to see if if contraction is accelerated a little bit you know because of a the slot reliable tracks relying on the slot machines and stuff for their funding for purses and all that but also You know if if some tracks just don't survive what's going to be a has been and is probably going to be for a while a tough economic situation and You know we've seen that one of the byproducts of less tracks running has been field-sized jumping up. I mean every race had oakland for weeks. There was a full field and Okla generally have pretty good fields but early in the meet. There's a lot of sixes sevens and eights and stuff in there and you couldn't you couldn't even sniff a Tan. It seemed like outside of the Arkansas is of course but You know I don't WanNA I. I Never WanNa see race tracks close. I WanNa see the sport grow. I don't know that the growth in racing in terms of field sizes. Obviously I mean you see the year to year decrease in number of full so tell that starts correcting itself because owners breeders and stuff can make some money You know I don't know that. Were going to Nazi contraction. Because you know having to bet five four. Six horsfield's is just not entertaining for for bettors. It's not a good betting proposition And it's a hard game to beat with the takeout. What it is as it is so when you multiply that by less numbers of combinations and stuff it just makes for a a not great recipe. I've definitely been a little more pessimistic. That's the last couple of weeks days. I do think this entire thing is an opportunity for a bit of a revolution in terms of how the game the gaming part of the game is structured. And maybe you know try to incentivize our players to play more by charging less or by offering a better product or both God forbid so we'll see if I mean I'm like I said I'm not. I'm not hopeful that change will be spurred by that but you know hopes Kind of one of the only things we got so we got we got to. We have to try to stick it out. I'm trying to put on a smiley face so race. I love let's Let's let's do the intro. It's a slow racing day therefore time to go back in the old time traveler. To a race I love love that Generic heavy metal music that royalty free not copyrighted heavy metal music race. I love well. We'RE GONNA go back to two thousand and five which oddly enough is the same year of our last race. I love so so far. I'm two for two in fact The two races themselves were only about a month and a half apart Maybe I'll have to branch out next week when we go. Maybe go somewhere a little more modern or maybe maybe even a little bit older. Who knows but we go back to July. The third so July third here in Seattle is the Emerald Bounced Fireworks Night They always do their big fireworks show. It's the biggest one in the Kent Auburn Valley on July third. And then you know everybody else obviously does it on. The fourth doesn't matter what day of week it is. They do it on July third. It's become a big tradition and has been for quite a while and on that day I was down at Emerald downs. But they weren't starting until later on in the evening. I think the racist started at like five or five thirty and so I got there early. I went out to the quarter shoot cafe. Which is the backstretch cafe? Sally Sally Joe Steiner owned and operated there too of just the sweetest people in the world and it's a great backstretch cafe like have you can go out there in the morning. It's open to the public. You can watch the horses. Come and go onto the track and it's it's pretty awesome part of of Emerald downs history so But I went out there because that was where the simulcasting was open. And my Buddy Ben root who was a trainer had been out of his barn and I worked my way back into the cafe and it was about fifteen minutes to post for the grade. One American oaks now. The American oaks was kind of a new race in two thousand and five at had just been created a couple of years earlier. I think it was I ran in two thousand and two. In fact the great megahertz one go a mile and a quarter in two minutes point. Four six but You know she was obviously a really really good. One helped launch this race into becoming a grade one pretty early on its existence. It was A mile and a quarter on the grass. It was kind of a late Season Hollywood park has obviously del Mar. Would starting just a few weeks. It was usually a little bit just before the Gold Kappa. Phi Remember correctly but You know like I said a race that it was was pretty new to the scene and had already generate some interesting buzz and their big thing was. They wanted to get runners from overseas and this particular edition Drew several Single lease a Great Britain bread Lewis Line from Ireland bread three degrees in Irish Bred Irish Bred Silver Cup Sweet firebird and other Irish Brett. Great Britain beds silken scarlet irish-bred. Hallo dream and the Japanese bred Cesario. Who was going to be the CO second choice? The favorite in this race was affiliate Mellor and Miller. India was coming over from New York. And Back East. Bobby Frankel Stud TNT You know they they. They paid one hundred twenty. Five thousand four her at keeneland September and she breaks her maiden at Belmont Park in her first career start rallies from from mid pack on the grass and doesn't only win wins going away by and a half at odds of seven to one. So you got a little bit of price on this Bobby Frankel First-timer so she goes on to win the Miss Grillo stakes at Belmont. They give her the rest of the winter off. She comes back a three year. Old Wins the Appalachian stakes. Lynn follows that up with a score in the sands point stakes grade. Three at Belmont Park on Belmont weekend. I think it was right. It might have even been Belmont Day but That same weekend the first weekend in June one at two to five rallied from off the pace. I mean just had been crushing her opponent. She comes into this. American oaks her first trip out west and we know Franken had spent some time out West but she ends up going off as you're sixty five favorite in this spot Johnny Velazquez coming over to ride. It's interesting looking back at the chart. Garrett Gomez riding single EAS Rene Douglas Lewis Line Jerry Bailey riding three degrees. I mean the Gary Stevens. Alex Sali's Corey Nakatani David Florez P. Vowel ON LONGSHOT. Hallowed Dream You Fukunaga the writer are before the race started. I liked Osario as a bet and before the race started. I remember talking to fixed offer on the show years ago and Vick said that you know this horse. Kinda was washed out and running off and if you watch. Tv G has some coverage of this race on Youtube. And if you watch like she warms up a damn near full sprint. Like it's it's crazy. How much intent. She's working going. I remember Victoria Me. That you know he was really kinda shocked with how vigorously they were warming up and how hot. She was getting and she was breaking from the far outside post. She's breaking in the twelve post a mile and a quarter race at Hollywood so they would start in that far far. Shoot and so not the best of Of Post position for this one mellor. I in drew perfectly in a post five. You know she had kind of a come from behind style and you know really was looking to go five for five and submit herself as As kind of the you know the Star three-year-old Tur- Philly in the country at this point so the reason that this race is so special to me is I remember as I sat and watched this in the quarter shoot cafe vicks call of the race to me is as close to perfect as a race call could get He's he's his timing his pitch his everything. He doesn't miss a single thing in the race. It's just step by step by step this perfect gradual build and SS. Reo comes off the top of the stretch and really starts to open up. You know his call just builds with that and I still to this day. I've heard this race and watch this race hundred times. Maybe more. The hair on my arms still stands up. And that's what happened when I was in the quarter shoot cafe On just never forget. I was watching it. It was kind of raised. Tv Some looking up at it and like the hair on my arms just stood up and it's just such an amazing race call and entertaining race. So here's a listen back to the American oaks two thousand five the Great Cesario. They're good start scenario in single EAS from their outside post show speed. That's what I mean and is. Let cozine close up at the rail. Three degrees is mid pack alongside hallowed dream to the outside Silken scarlet and Silver Cup. Lewis Line has to check briefly off forces mellor second to last early and the trailer is sweet. Firebird cozine take charges. They hook up with the main course and Islam. Cozine is now three lengths in front of. That's what mean in second says. Reo Is well-placed. For Japan. She is third only in the two path from the twelve twelfth hole as they race at the clubhouse turn a length and a half to member read who is fourth in on the front end is look cozine trying to win the American right here. And now she's five lengths in front single eas how low dream and Silken scarlet or next. They're all about nine from the front three degrees mellor. I ended up to the BACKSTRETCH AND LOUIS. Line all eleven lengths from the front. Silver Cup is already pushed along thirteen from the lead. And if sweet firebird ends the fourth American oak she'll make up fifteen lengths in four and a half furlongs. Islah cozine tries to slow it down to the half-mile pole. But that's what I mean and Caesaria will have none of that and that's what I mean has taken over the lead that's all for is let cozine drops back his second. Sorry who is in perfect striking position. Now just a neck from the front single lease memorandum. Lewis Line has passed several. Here's Lewis Line up into fourth but length and a half to Laura into WHO's got a long way to comments says. Reo takes charge at the top of the stretch and says reo has opened up a big lead. She has four lengths in front of singles in second then comes. That's what I mean. Laura India's eight legs from the Japanese superstar Dario Tosari Oh stretch. She's running off their feet. Likes him figure elise how you get in a second? But no way that she touched the winner says reo win the fourth American jobs mellor solidly defeated in second single as third and three degrees. Finish for it. It's just so great. It's so great so Zari. Oh running them off their feet password. Stretch so Zari I. I get chills. The during the whole call it's so great The reason it's also so special to me is literally the next day. I went to the sporting store by my house and they were having a fourth of July sale and I bought a pair of Leopold binoculars that my friend Chris Carpet. Neto had recommended because he used them hunting. And I started. I went up to the grandstanded. Emerald and I sat in a friend's box. I didn't pay for and I would just kind of called the races under my breath and I remember after I did that I go you know I kinda could. I think I can kind of this. And at the time I was memorizing them via the Celtics are the saddle towel. And you know. I didn't really know what I was doing it but I knew that I wanted to do it and I could do it and I wanted to. I wanted to feel what I felt when vic called that race like every day and every race and I spent the next six months practicing every chance I could get at Emerald and then down at Portland and it was actually. It was literally about six months from that day. I got to call my first race because it was January. Eighth of two thousand six. A Colt named sue down at Portland Meadows so That race will just always be so special me of course as REO would go on to have a very good breeding career. She produced a couple of really nice horses including a Japanese Think at Japanese champion. Three year old filly of the year. A couple years later has had a couple of Of Good Offspring Mellor. Linda was never quite the same she. She went on mean she ran a good third and the Beverley D. Had A disappointing effort in the flower bowl later that year and then would win the potty stakes at Belmont Park. I hope I'm saying that right might be capitals but had to Ended up retiring after that She had been off for nine months before winning that capital steaks and so not sure exactly what happened but went to her retirement with Five wins from eight starts. Four hundred eighty three scenario would never run again. Suffered an injury and was a bread after that but That one afternoon in July at Hollywood park she was just some kind of brilliant and it is certainly a race. I love so I appreciate guys indulging me on this little segment. I'm having fun with it while we have a little bit of a shortage in racing and so looking forward to probably doing it the next couple of Tuesdays or Wednesdays till we start to pick it up live racing more so but of course. Tampa's returning today Gulfstream's back Thursday and sort. You're getting into another racing weekend. We'll start talking more about those races as we go tomorrow horse player Thursday Valente. The Track Phantom is going to join US looking forward to having the jury on on Friday. And we'll get you ready for the upcoming weekend Appreciate the emails. Keep those come. Jason Charles Bima gmail.com getting some good ones and What I really love about some of the emails. I'm getting his people reflecting and looking at their own horse playing and asking questions and talking about the things they're trying or doing and Love to see those kind of conversations happening. I don't think they happen enough so All Forum Jason Charles Bima no dot Com. We will see you guys back here tomorrow. Everybody have a great rest of your Wednesday.

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Planning Better Home Screen Newsfeeds E494

Topgold Audio Clips

05:54 min | 1 year ago

Planning Better Home Screen Newsfeeds E494

"Taco audio or ninety four. Let's talk about some online watering holes places you might like to go to make these clips occasionally goes from. What's on my in my hand using Lemur or spreaker APP to record some thoughts. I have some big thoughts about how we need to plan for a world without an office. Water Cooler where I work. A lot of conversation happens around tea room. Call The's sitting at a table. Sheridan a canteen and the big thing. That's happening to me right now. Is We're locked out of work for good reason. We don't want to go back into that workplace and we'RE GONNA lose. We have lost a lot of internal communications. This friction Lewis Line of sight snippets of conversation audible conversation. Just don't have it and I'm wondering what can I do so I snapped a shot of the screen one of the screens on my android phone. That I use to tap around really quickly to read news and some of the things I would re would be snippets of conversation. I share with people. Well I don't have any share that meeting people so I can't share and more than that. We don't have a list serve. We have no online Commons area. Although we are using stern use Microsoft teams and the zoom video system. Where I work I get regular updates from the very top of feeding chain that would be the president of the Limerick Institute of Technology Vincent Kanani puts out regular updates which are helpful and I can see a flow of information from the common people using the Lat instagram account. It's limerick underscore. It that's the Limerick Institute of Technology and then we do occasionally get mainstream media coverage from like limerick newspapers or from other regional press sources radio or if in the national broadcaster. And what you see your Important initiatives where there are meaningful helpful community enablement procedures. That are put in place. But I can't go to the front page of the website from L. A. T. or to the news section and get a new slow. I gotta read this stuff one page and I don't. I don't like that it's too slow in the background on doing screen shots of things that are affecting me during Kovic nineteen. I'm sharing it on a thing. Called Covert Nineteen Ireland the photo album. On flicker and I'M GONNA look at that every month and see what's happened so like right now. I can have stuff in there about shortages on supermarket shelves and some Radio Station minutes that have been part of as the local community. Ramped up and I have some snaps of what the kids are doing to stay to stay abreast in their teaching and learning. The cool thing is I have a group of students. Small Group created media students who've migrated content through three different durations of a content management systems module. I teach and one of the core values of their work. I'm trying to instill that. They should be able to make their content management process. Friction lists so that the results of what are put into the system can percolate out in this case. Percolate out and serve the internal information needs of the company or The Cross talk requirement of a trading group and may time to reflect as an instructor and what students have done and the students to reflect on what they've done and the share snippets in both cases. The students. Say Here's what we've learned. Here's what we've made. And then for me to affirm that both in terms of academic marks and online discussion. And maybe just maybe this whole process or come around the full three sixty and serve the thing that I started talking about which is help me make the world better with virtual office watercooler. It does come down to a service. Internal Communications is a service and then some technologies that help that service. Are you concerned about such a thing I mean? Are you getting your information only from one water hall like facebook or Instagram or Lemur or from your podcast cities or or are you doing? I'm trying to do which is diversified with information where you're getting it and then serving you serving as a curator of the flow that comes in you need content management techniques to do that. I'd like to hear how people are doing that now. Where are you going for your information? What do you expect to come to you? Can you moderate it? Modulate it curate. It I'm doing with the APP Center in the screen shot that I'm sharing. You can find more my life if you follow the handle called the top gold on all good social networks. That's me or go bye bye for now.

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Part 2:Ed Derosa

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:00:21 hr | 6 months ago

Part 2:Ed Derosa

"This will do. Just back off the visit with sid sire. Watch a better refocus. Brought to you by lyndale. Just checking with k. k. You need lenny's you got lenny's number. No or should i hear senator just in case sometimes because lenny will actually it's been It's actually write about exactly. We talked to lenny subsequently but it was a year of a pretty sure it was just a year ago right about now right that that That at and passed as it happens Well in this case one of one of the individuals and and operations in the sport. That i know lenny just held in the highest regard lenny. Showman good morning morning. About how how much anybody can stand him as once a year. Love it Well you know i i. I had a variety of people across my mind immediately To to bring on today and you were. You were right At the top. Because you you'd get glassy eyed talking about judge. Take it up the being a racing fan going to the track out in hollywood park once a week or whatever you know we don't we don't think about breeding all that much you know necessarily horse players perhaps but once i took the job and bloodworks and moved to kentucky in two thousand i it became obvious to me that i really had to get up to speed on breeding you know and this all aspects of the business and you know you start to learn things and you start to look at this at this organization that th that seemed to be the nineteen twenty seven yankees when it when it came to breathing in a relative everybody else and and they didn't seem to go to for sale to get their stock in this wasn't like darlie and and call more spending a million dollars you know for yearlings and eight hundred thousand dollars for broodmares Every year this is this is an organization that somehow you know was doing this internally year after year after year and it just me that the guy who's in charge of this much be a true genius of reading and i thought to usually best i mean since was just head and shoulders on an international day. A we've talked already this morning said rift on on the breeding Elements and the successes and some of the decision making as well More on the racing. Side lenny you would write features and and i know that For as long as i've known you your one of your white wales was was a sit down with prince kali But you know domestically we've had we've had representatives like doc chandler and garo rourke and he'd leave vow you know there's been this constant and then when you fold in bobby frankel and then most recently with chad brown and bill. Maher the brad cox pa baffert that have all late. Obviously in in in the prince's life farmed out A wider array of of horsemen but You know talk about the dealings. And and the coming to understand the approach through garrett and doc chandler and and he'd leave out. You're absolutely right steve. He was the one that got away and You know every time. I would see garrett's somewhere or talk on the phone on another story I would always say garrett of your thoughts on can we talk and you know garrod is called them. The boss snapped the boss. Man's deciding this man's deciding nat. We always laugh. Because i would always inquire after whether you know i could possibly get it. Sit down with them. And i did one interview them. Save at the at empire makers kentucky derby. We found ourselves next to each other walking into the paddock earlier. That day and here i was with him and i i i turned to the print and i said i. Are you having a good day here. And he turned him in any said pleasant and so that was the interview. I i did with him. I get one word at college but the first one. I interviewed bobby predict story. You know obviously you have to ask the question. You know which i did is like bobby here. Yard jewish kid from brooklyn and here. You are having major name with the horses from a from a saudi arabian friend you know. Can you talk about the. You know the irony of that. I five food. It was what he looks up for them. Because you know he's wandering up batchelor. Let's not talk about it. I was very sensitive topics that bobby certainly understood. But you know they. The the prince's run a computer programs to find out who to give to in america. And you know. Bobby ended up scoring the highest of anybody. And that's how that's how we pick five out but you know bobby loved all of his but man when he would talk about or show you you know the judd. Mont phillies in his par man. That's at that pace just with light up. You know the honest lady or flute or who. Whoever whoever the current one was Boy did he love those vilis. I mean it was written all over him and obviously judge martin and so much of his career. And you know. I told you earlier this morning that And i know that clip it sites see at keeneland or not but You know she You never know until they do. It and bobby knew he had something special but you know she hadn't run into greatest state yet This is maybe the fourth or fifth race of her career and we are on the rally together at teen and sightsee was in the raven run and she came blazing by us down the stretch and you know ran off by three and a half or four lancs and i just turned to and i said well and he said yeah you know she might be right. You know which you know. And bobby talk was yeah. I've got another superstar year and sure not what she went. Seven grade ones and who have million dollars and she didn't hate santa anita so much you would've added to that with the breeders cup path but But man they just kept common and common and common and you know the they just meant so much him i could. I could not come up with with that raven run. There's quite a few and there's some that do go back into the arts but th that wasn't there and unfortunately and i dig around And i even look for her humanity staff. Which came you know the next year as well. You know you think about sightsee. Here's a perfect example of some of the things we were talking about with with nick luck when you go through this litany of success and a horse like site seek where would she even fit in the top seventy five of of the horses that he that he produced or campaign. Yeah well interesting. And she's out of a man and viviana didn't really do much arrays is. I think she may ninety five thousand at the racist but you know she ended up just throwing one after another after another. And you know it's night's sixer self hasn't produced all that much of note the man i will guarantee you. That hurts. come back in for this like crazy. 'cause sometimes that's just the way it seems but yeah where she said i you know yeah seven greg ones in two and a half million and you don't even know that you know. She cracked the top ten or not but Yeah it's i i you know. Just ask to be able to ask the what do you see here you know how. How do you know this is going to happen. I it would have been the most fascinating conversation. Probably a of my life canal. How he's figured this all out because this couldn't have been by accident. This isn't one or two mayors that you know that went on and produce this scores and scores of them. And i i hope. I hope that that combination lock got paths on. You know the combination pass on to somebody else because you know that's good knowledge to to just go away without passing for somebody. That's good point. And the you know the group of advisers and with the input that i it seems like that's been a constant but everybody referenced at the same time that he was the decision maker. It wasn't it wasn't like he you know rubber-stamped recommendations that they you know they they put something front of him and then he said okay. That's like you know like Like the don with that Jug of oil reason. Why jared is your per to and park man and you know and the other thing that that you know. It wasn't a breeding decisions. But you know after bobby a pass and they wanted to honor him you know that they had a decision to make as to you. Know what a forced to name franko in honor of everything bobby has done for their american operation. And look who they picked out to give that name only only one of the greatest racehorses of all time and you know you have to make that decision you know when the worst is a yearling or or a young two year old and you know this is not an accident. This guy had an eye and a judge for talent and breathing and everything else it's just supersedes anybody else i've ever seen and what i what i always admired was just how How consistent and really and placid there were there was never any. There was never any hubbub or or any Controversy or or displeasure. That was voiced. It up there. There was never. There was never a reason to say you know i i. I'm going to root against that horse. I it it was just it just has been run with with Such yeah yeah you see those colors walk on to a race track and you sit foward in your seats see what that looks like and to see what the breeding is because because the whole thing is class all the way from from human to to the act wines that you're couldn't be more right about that well you know the the concern. I voiced this to to to nick lock earlier and he was on his show this morning he. He asked john gosden. Apparently seems like there is a survivorship Scenario because the you just you can understand when when certain You know we're dealing with something right now. In fact with those two dispersals that we've talked. I talked going into the weekend and in these couple of days. Already of the sale. With with paul pompa and passing and and with With the samsun team a winding down their operation. Those two scenarios That those are typical for for dispersals Obviously a passing passing But this is. I mean i. There's nothing even compare this to when when you think about the you know the international scope and The the importance. I mean just the just a this is as important. A racing operation as there is a in the world period. Yeah yeah and you know. I i don't think it was a sudden quote unquote a a sudden passing You know certainly there have been rumblings over several years that that he may have been in some failing health so so i think there was. You know certainly the opportunity to prepare as best as they could for it. so hopefully. that's that's true. i can tell you from a personal standpoint. They'd when i you know even when i got the email from keeneland about the dispersals coming i i still have not gotten used to paul pomp and not staying here anymore. It's still just just the children's up my spine. When i when i think about it. It's so very hard and difficult to to absorb. That and i know you had his cousin jerry on this week I just that hit like a ton of bricks and itself a ton of bricks and it's just such a. It's a locked for the for the business and it's such a personal lots for anybody. Who knew paul at all from the smallest interaction to to a closer interaction. There's nobody who came away from that not not touch. What a great human being. He was no doubt i. And you know a a passing like that as well as as well. Frankly as i'm sure people don't have the immediate Connection or or you know awareness but tammy vela's Her passing is really at the heart of of samsun leaving the game. I mean if tammy had not gotten sick i. It's probably ten years. But i if if she she i don't think she she wasn't forty. Was maybe forty something. I think you're right. I mean it. If if tommy goes on the ernie samuel's daughter d- samsung wouldn't wouldn't be dispersing well At least hopefully the wind blood goes on. But yeah you know these are. He's a body blows to the industry You know the these kind of operations. Don't come along every year and You know and and you know obviously. There's the personal aspects that knew them but Certainly as an industry. It's a it's a blow and you can only hope it. You know some something. Like judd mont And i think continue on the same kind of level that we've been spoiled to see through the years certainly the blind a lot. Is there anyway. Well and there's there's obviously stories that will that will be written out of the these results today the when when quality broodmares. You know that are the you know the result of careful breeding like the particularly. I think about that. You know the twenty-one samson mares and i mean. I read through the list of a list of stallions. These mayors were in full to. It's it's it's unbelievable. I mean warfront into mischief. American pharaoh candy rides hard spun distorted. You there's gonna be a whole twenty-one babies outta here that That will produce some things but it part of the games. History is the the introduction of these kinds of you know heritage mayors into other people's operations that goes hundreds of years of that. Well didn't that evans. Dispersal comes to mind. Not too distant past. And i you know arthur. Hancock held a great story because he bought a mayor out of that dispersedly. Firstly a tremendous respect. For for mr evans. And you know i. I think it didn't work out immediately. American resume so i said yeah i could hear ned evans coast coming down from heaven saying hancock. You don't need my help But but that's the way it was the name ghost lady goes anyway. You know the mayor start producing like crazy. I think maybe airports glue is from that family or whatever but you know that's the dispersal was what maybe ten fifteen years ago and you know that sort of broodmare band is going to go on and you know you're right. Yeah warner. john's i'm added. There have been some amazing dispersals two years. And you know top top quality stock. Yeah and that actually would be a fabulous topic For for one of the for bloodstock writer actually to talk about the redistribution at It's just one of the aspects of the game that's fascinating and and that's That's what's so remarkable when you know when the final The final chapters are written regarding prince kali to me that the the success of interbreeding inside and on the racetrack just They're gonna they're gonna stand alone as an incredible really incredible testimony to to him. I to as i said the nick locked to build this from from zero mean from from nothing. i. I don't even know what you compare it to other fats visits like you know like building. I ibm from from from nothing apples. And you know it's on that level Of excellence and towering above the competition and being able to get just to internally you know without having to go outside and an annex other other blood for the most part it's just it's just unmatched by by antioch and i. I'm calling it forty years. Technically i mean if he if you think about him starting You know getting a runner or two and then buying a couple of marriage and apparently the first couple of years That the eric mitchell's eric. Mitchell's got a terrific tobin. As i've mentioned repeatedly this morning. I guess the first couple of years weren't all that successful so i mean figure five seven years you know to sort of get Oriented and really. It's it's the last thirty years that you know that he fashioned all this and Until what i did. was copy from several sources. All of the group one winners. Great britain ireland. France united states Canada hong kong united arab emirates. And then they also found a section most successful horses. So i've got. It catalogued in a couple of different ways and it's seven pages seven pages to it was almost ironic. That the you know bobby frankel breeders cup winner with squirrel squared because once once he opened the doors. You know the bank hills in the intercontinental. You know all the judds Sorry coming through and winning graders raises one after another for him but But yeah it goes on. I mean i just scribbled down some names. It just goes on and on and on you know arrogant. I didn't even think about until later. Empire didn't i'm from my. He's the classic wherever the bunch and he didn't even come to mind so you get finished with all always been married. you know. Well exactly it with bobby. Obviously with bobby. That's the those are the ones you know. You think about Well let me. I've got I got to for you to choose from for us. The play one more One more race. I've got either inter-continental's philly and mayor turf or i've got to arrogates dubai world cup. I think we gotta go with the mayor right. Let's go there. yeah. I don't. I don't i don't blame you i'm and i can. I can r- there's a couple of things about that race. Actually that i'll that i can remember. I was in the paddick arlington. Breeders copper with no no this this belmont and i went down to the paddock with with with jimmy. Toner and I met. I met bobby flay for the first time before this race and and watched and and and your man john phillips right with wonder again was in this race and i think i think we i think we ended up even though i was an intercontinental fan. I i didn't. I didn't think she could. She could wire this field But this was a. You're gonna hear the names case. We're gonna play that two thousand and five breeders cup filly and mare so let me know when when you're ready with that The you're gonna hear a really nice list of affiliate surfers in this and you'll you'll enjoy. This also. goes back far enough that we get to hear. Tom durkin doing his his breeders. Cup work so i want to say i wanna say that that Roffe bay bhairon. Oh god rights. Yeah and by the way the hearts that that finished second the felt the mayor of the french second came back and won the race a year later so well well the name of course we can go ahead and frame that is we g board and this is you know this is the race that prevented ouija board from winning three straight so at anger heart to finish third behind in a kind of nine hundred. Finish second we of year filmmakers. These these were some suffering of the week before the force. Yeah the these are some solid runners. Yeah this is. This is a nice field. Let's listen to durkan here. Is prince colleagues intercontinental. Bobby frankel and full house at beautiful belmont park the two thousand five years affiliate mirror what samara speed but is there risk versus in between those two. When does not far behind mona. Lisa's forwardly placed today but there it goes intercontinental out to race for the lead as they make their way for the i heard so it's intercontinental on the outside up the lead wendy's second and mona lisa. Not far behind on the outside. Third risk-averse opposed today fourth toward the head and then inbetween. Horses is flipped running along and fifth position. Now on the outside. It's karen's caper. She's four wide around the first turn running in six hundred seventh and on hold on the inside. We keyboard right there and mid pack in this bulky field. She's running along eighth position. Not far behind us wonder again. And then on the outside filmmaker watching a bid from about ten legs out of it followed by lewis line favorable terms and gara trails. The field and very keen upfront is intercontinental. Who's the pace year. Rafeal bay around china's settler dom which was able to negotiate a half mile in forty eight and four fifths new seconds over this off going that's attempted pace for these leagues up top intercontinental now being challenged by wind as they race. For the half-mile pole parents caper looms on the outside right. They're running at third mona lisa. Underwrite a stamp with mild ago. Flip-flop continues to run. Well boards only five lakes behind as they enter the far. Turn by lewis line filmmakers launching. Her bed wonder again still about nine. Or ten lakes. Send drop threads her way through risk versus tailing off followed by terms. And at megahertz is wavy. Megahertz has been trailing update. Turns for all still shakes took now the worst case he says. He's says they're buff. They youtube buffering. The thing that's not here we got almost thing we love. Well yeah i mean she. She crap by mail gets this home. Intercontinental wins it. Would you boardman's second was third and wonder again was bored. Were there is intercontinental. Usually a very will full sort. She just liked the toss her head about and resents being restrained at all. Bobby frankel happy about the ride. That rafeal bay ronald gave her. Today was a real crafty running ride. That got her home. Well the her one by the way yeah she was fifteen to one ant pay thirty to twenty and the thing about it is she. She came in hot she. She had one. Listen to these names pretty funny. She had won the pal amar at del in the labor day weekend then she went to keeneland and one the galaxy stakes and then came into the breeders cup. And really the only hiccup she'd had through the summer she'd won the royal heroine. She was third in the maybe she had won the jenny wiley. I mean she you know she had done very little wrong. But this shows you the kind of field it was if she's fifteen two one. We g board was five to two two to one actually. Yeah yeah okay and She now out of his silly who we we haven't even discussed well you know. It's funny because i brought up danehill with sid earlier today we were talking. We went through the bloodline portion of the story. And i brought up danehill in. Here's you know here's a here's the danehill daughter intercontinental This was This was a tremendous performance. She beats ouija board. Filmmaker wonder again favorable terms. When i'd forgotten about wind and gara megahertz. Karen's caper mona lisa. Lewis line lewis. Line flip-flop risk-averse Who really did not run well. And i'll have to ask pat about the risk. Averse that day and sandra trailed so not a bad field of fourteen in that addition of the reader scope affiliate mazing mazing at mile and a quarter. Yeah i think if. I'm not mistaken Wonder again and filmmaker where my betting interests that day. And there's a lot of people i could do. We could you could check in. I always love. Whenever we'd you board comes out by trying to remember the this is two thousand and five so was two thousand and six. We're churchill in two thousand and six or mature or okay. I can't because i just remember lord darby in that in the press conference and he was you know he he'd waited a long time to get a horse like would you board and he just. He just loved he just loved coming back and and you know what are your plans for her. Well we're gonna keep running. I will. I'll try to win again. We'll try to come back next year. He was he was just delighted by few was great. I mean you're you're not megahertz to who was in the middle of that feels. She finished was also trained by bobby. And what was really a tiny philly stature wise and i just Remember the rates I don't know if it was delmar or hollywood. Where is she she was heading. Had with lord day seru philly coming down the stretch and Have been writing a lot for bobby recently and doing really well and he was on the large day seru philly that day and he probably by mistake you would hope smack megahertz and in the head with his whip coming down the stretch and As you can imagine. Bobby was was not real happy i was. I was in hollywood a couple of days later. When can't agent at the time. Tom news Trying to slay the bobby. Why shouldn't lose. Can parse say was an uncomfortable conversation for Our group that about beggar to also that road says there. There's a there's so many nice. There's so many nice stories actually up down that up and down that field. I sing when hearing wednesday and then watching the race earlier this morning. I mean there. There's a mayor that i kind of forgot about Clayborn motte Runner you know she. She had a nice career to the a filmmaker for don adam as well. Well lenny. i wasn't we weren't gonna do prince kali tribute without A visit from you. I must say It's an honor to even be considered because you're talking about just for the top the top there so A huge loss Thoughts go out to everybody connected with judgment. Certainly on this side of the ocean. Starring garriga roark. But all the people back in europol so And you just hope it goes on Just a fantastic fantastic life in the sport lenny. Schulman everybody and lenny will catch up with you down the road and out of you know on a cheery next year exactly. We'll talk to you next january. I would tell everybody to visit lenny on Twitter but there's no point buried in a snowbank. Well i i do. Have if i may yes. I do have a book coming out later. This year called the head-to-head compilation events reviews that i've done Through the years In the blood horse of which. You know the bobby frankel was certainly one of them. But it's collection about forty five interviews. I've done and so i hope to be coming back and chatting with you about that at some point without stale and so a another another lenny. Shulman thome and this that same company that that put out justify the university crashes kentucky is terrific terrific. Yeah very excited about it. A lot of great interviews People like david milch. And sam sheppard and rick pitino and bobby bob baffert and tony. Leonard and the whole section on the great women In this for like helen alexander charlotte weber injustice seeing abercrombie. And i just goes on and on but Tom durkin So it's a really nice collection. Excellent looking forward. I remember when my remember when you were pitching this. So i didn't realize it would be this close to you. Know to getting to getting released. Well head to head. It's called head to head at the head lenny. Showman expanding His author page at At amazon and Safe in fact lenny eye will. We'll talk to you in advance of the release when when people preorder. I think it should be out sometime over the summer. So i will let you. Now thank you all right there. We go the university oppressive kentucky who is sunday. Thank thank goodness is still around. Survived survived them previous governors regime and in in the bluegrass and has been very kind to thoroughbred and equine authors overall. We'll stay here. We got twenty minutes to fill out the morning. And ed droese is standing by. Good morning power there. She was eddie lennie. I had him on a. I had him on a six to five hold too. We didn't we didn't even let them off the off the hook. Run wild out certainly look forward to the book and an echo your sentiments about the press Making it through some some difficult times with its executive situation. The previous administration was ready to You know. I figured that the administration would be Oppose the things like books that made perfect sense but it has survived and They when when they have a sale when they every so often they have this sale. I'm like i got books piled everywhere. I must order three or four because the topics of that their authors have have tackled are are fascinating. I mean they're obviously kentucky centric. But there's i've i've gotten a lot of culinary. There's a lot of culinary titles in the university press collection wow Make sure. I see that next time may have a sale. All right i will. I will send you a bottle. Send you a couple of a a couple of links. Do you have a judd. Mont a thought about the prince. Kelly before we do anything else. Well i mean certainly to me frankel. sticks out Just you know. He came of age so to speak when i transitioned Churchill from thoroughbred times and that was the first horse. I remember just appointment viewing must see. Tv for international audience and thanks to eighty w Those races were easily available. I've certainly heard my share stories of people trying to hunt down the dubai world cup when that launched in the nineties to to go to the red mile and all the red tape to get them to show to cetera and Frank just seemed to really elevate you know just beyond the certainly people enjoy international ray thing and they like to avail themselves too big and small events but frankl just that was the first. I remember you just. You had to watch so if you knew horse racing even if you were just casual weekend warrior here in the states he he moved the dial and judge to be a part of that and having named horse after one of our best trainers and having sir henry cecil involved just kinda hard to imagine a more perfect storm in terms of what thoroughbred racing is in the world. And what's at that time. So that certainly fix out. And i was there in three When the prince was asked churchill. And i think bobby frankel swept the greatest fakes on the undercard and and unfortunately just couldn't get it done in the big one for the print and I i know that's probably about what would have liked to have for guy won a lot of races with so incredible story and legacy and thoroughbred racing and Can only hope it continues because when you think about john mine it's not just what they did on the track but the broodmare band and their commitment to breeding race etcetera so We'll see what happens in the coming years but hopefully the involvement were remain nicely. Nicely put nice coda to our conversations today. And i'm sure they'll be. They'll be more reactions as the week goes on let's Talk a little bit about what's going on on the oval and of course One thing that i wanna slip ahead You know we get the get these peop- said for for fairgrounds so far out in advance makes it Makes it very easy to anticipate. And they're going to get the lion's share the attention on saturday But as part of the action at nor orleans on saturday with the lecompte you've also got the kentucky derby prep race Season and getting going in earnest and an opportunity for players that we did this. We have done this. One guys are another. The last several years kind of what i was thinking. I mean going back. You know you have the the show noun show -vivor type competition and that lost a little flare. When i think we had eight eight people make it to american pharaohs derby on that certainly gave the insurance from cold feet. Going forward So we we've been you know trying to come up with ways to get a nice big number out there and keep people engaged prep season and one thing we had never done. That's actually a promo that mirrored The point so rather than Looking for you know mutual total or an roi or things like that. This is basically. You're you're wagering for real dollars of course The the the the bonus component matches The leaderboard and the road to the derby. So for instance. If you bet on the winner of the lacob this weekend at twin spires you'll get ten points for the leaderboard. And if you hit the florida derby winner you'll get one hundred points and as always you have to often twin spires dot com slash offers With a hundred fifty thousand in the purse and the grand prize i believe is thirty. Thousand plus a trip to the kentucky derby We have a feeling that This is going to be a popular one that sits big time real money up at the top down to five thousand for fifth or tenth place and There's also a consolation for those who Just participate we're gonna be giving away Some wagers kentucky derby day so lots of opportunity to pad the bankroll but without a doubt the biggest for those who play thirty thousand dollars cash first prize and a trip to the derby which should be a hot ticket this year. 'cause i don't i don't think there's going to be on her fifty thousand people there steve. Well it's funny. You say that i i i happen to have been talking to form and yesterday and we were speculating on on that I was asking him how things were in maryland. not great and there are actually positive but He he wasn't sure what was gonna happen on that front for for preakness. And because you know we're making we're making steady progress but It's not a right. Not the kind that i think we were we. We're hoping for so. How do people explain to people how to get involved. I put a link up at the website last night. So you'll see that it's a one hundred fifty thousand dollar leaderboard. Competition is what you're looking for but explained everybody how to opt in. You can't twin spires dot com slash offers. Some other good offers out as well. But this one's the kentucky derby prep hundred fifty thousand leaderboard competition once you're opted in your good week. You don't need to reopen or anything like that but it is important It is a twenty five dollar minimum wage so Little little stretch from you know some of the typical five ten promotion But you know we straight win bat and it's on your first horse that you bet some winds so no dutch ing no taken the field or anything like that and you hit when you get the point corresponding to the derby trail But all the way down to fourth of course just like the point so This weekend is ten four to one and a half to thank you. Know based on the numbers we usually get in these Those those force and third place finishes definitely gonna mean something. So don't miss a race and opt in twenty five to win in the for the proper aces is what sites how you enter each week. Nice i will remind and we'll start to start to look at the leaderboard as as the prep trail unwinds couple of other things. We should mention two. We introduced then. Let everybody know last week with sam. Houston getting started. There's the build your stakes day bankroll. That's going on and Tomorrow we get the first opportunity to play the sam houston space city pick sex no more jackpot To their absolute credit and twelve percent takeout fifty cent which is an interesting increment to introduce to A pick sex going to be looking forward to building the ticket Tonight when i when i start to pull it together and of course we should mention sam. Houston starting at five o'clock eastern on thursdays. So you get that late afternoon and the sequence will start at six fifty six a little before seven for the space city. Pick six no more jackpot but you that every time one hundred dollars sam houston leading up to a ladies classic day. They're gonna throw five dollars in up to fifty bucks so ten opportunities to get five dollars you'll have fifty dollars waiting for you on ladies classic night exactly. Yeah and Fifties a decent amount and the speaking of fifty. I agree with you. They threw a little bit of a curve ball. They got rid of the jackpot but also increase the minimum. And that's that's definitely going to factor in you know how the pool is played for sure because now those hundred forty four dollar twenty seven pick six tickets seventy three sixty and you know i think just knowing my own place i do and our peers and how they play steve. There's definitely that sense with the pick. Five pick four waiting for you You know i don't. I don't know that people are going to play the tickets. Maybe they should try to take down a a nice pick pot. Because if i you know miss here i can come right back and same with the pick five so i definitely think there might be interesting for those willing to suppress on the pick six and and not worry about the other two pools and that she those sorts of pets or backup opportunities One thing i'm not sure probably find out but you might now. Are they doing like naira. And it's paid out every day or is there a traditional carioca opportunity traditional carryover which seventy five seventy five percent would carry if nobody hits And the console. The console structure is twenty five percent of the pool We'll go to consoles okay. Provide additional opportunity. Our yeah and If you haven't looked yet For tomorrow you're you got an nice sequence. Actually it's ten by seven by ten by ten by eight by ten and quality wise. Quite nice you got a three year old turf. Mile starts things out a non winters a two and then it goes to a straight mile dirt allowance for foreign upsets a group of seven Deoras got a seventy five to seventy five favorite there. Then there's an a nickel claimer Non winners of to On a calendar basis goes is the seventh. You've got They're going to go a mile. You're going to go a mile with another Dickel claimer and then a seven eighths fifteen thousand nine hundred thirty. Two eight and the nightcap is a maiden special for affiliate mayors four or five year olds going a mile on the grass so the first and last leg are on the grass. And in between you've got a nice sequence very very nice Races looks like for tomorrow. And i'm going to go after it and ed we should mention. We brought you back on friday and we talked about that turf way sequence which ended up paying forty seven hundred. I mean there was one very tricky horse. The payer youths winner for forty bucks but Talk about that turf way. Action friday night. Yeah that i. That was the key. I mean it was. It was pretty forceful and obviously it seems even beyond that night with the perry bomb It's those big prices that are sticking out but you know i've i've shared with sort of the favorite percentages and things like that. There's plenty of very logical winners at turf way as well and until saturday Betting the favourite was actually a positive proposition at turf way So you know it's it's it's just a matter of finding the right place to lean in and getting creative and where your opinion strongest and unfortunately for me and my strong opinions of have not come through so it's You know some futility as of late there but you know you see those payouts and you know it's encouraging 'cause you know man. When i when i do connect it's it's gonna pay and that seems to be the case even on friday night when i thought the other four were were very habitable and indeed did but That that perry one alluded me. And it's not as if i didn't try some prices and other combinations in races that that was just one i couldn't connect the dots with and for those who get forty seven hundred for an otherwise logical sequence. Kinda pretty much. The boat of what's been going on at this year and almost four hundred thousand Ben into it as well so the number we suggested basically it and very very playable. Actually you know just so happens. Yesterday i had been colebrook on and we were talking about The horse that he and his dad sold Opening day at keeneland for four hundred and seventy five thousand the short yearling and then we also talked about his upcoming runners and the kind of a barn tour and he says that the racing at turf way has been cut throat to use that term. But he said you know he's entered some spots where he did not expect the level of competition. He said the reset the racing been really good. So that can jeff greenhill from the mac and last year. Talk about you know and turf way was really just kind of the first year of the The improvement bowing flax money etc. And you know he knew it would be tough and he posted on facebook today or yesterday. you know. He's he's over the year so far and he and i chat and i mean he basically that would have been said It's it's just a it's a totally different me. From two years ago. I mean just just a total different population and competition and We'll we'll see who's able to adapt. Because i don't think it's going to get any easier. No no well Couple of Got about two minutes couple of plays for today I don't have anything today. And i just started looking at turf way tomorrow but since our big promo kicks off the fairgrounds and i won't. I'm guessing talk to you friday. Oh well you might be back. But i d. I did want to quickly touch on the silver bullet. Day where i like. Charlie's penny Quite a bit and certainly recognize on task is the philly to be I spec super sensational. Probably take some money as well Minute walk if ricky Goes into the pocket could take them when money. But i think the value is going to be charlie penny I thought so the last race Was was good after an odd. Start and brian sticks aboard and debut granted. It was doing five. He's by race day. Out of a warriors reward mayor so mile or chee amount and seventy might be the limit. But i think there's a fast enough rate to run back to and and maybe a wake up to turn To me makes charlie's penny the play. So it's a win. Bet for me on her and underneath dot path in three deca. Excellent feel for for the lecomte yet. Yeah i'm gonna take a shot with santa cruiser. I think this is way more than just mandolin. And he's kinda marooned on the outside. So santa cruz is gonna be the place for me See if jimmy graham in gets this one gate to wire close to excellent ej. everybody eddie. I appreciate it and maybe we will not enough talk. We'll talk next week. and derosa. Everybody along with lenny. Showman sid fernando adam koenig and nick luck. Busy full wednesday. 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November 15: Foreign disservice

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November 15: Foreign disservice

"This is a CBC podcast. Hello I'm Carol off. Hello I'm Karen Gordon. This is as it happens. The podcast edition tonight's foreign. Disservice Davis a former United States ambassador is watching closely while his friend and former colleague simultaneously endures a congressional impeachment inquiry and twitter is your tirade from president trump. Giving as good as he got a Saskatchewan doctor says it's personal experience. That has him promising to pay for an abandoned is baby program whether or not the province is on board for all wells earned good and Nova Scotia. Woman blames what she calls. Environmental Racism Awesome for the lack of access to drinkable water in her Shelbourne neighborhood. Stem the tide at our house. A university researcher searches deep beneath occurrence in the the Bay of Fundy and find a whole lot of garbage that has floated down from US folks about digital revolutionary we remember the man behind Dwight horses storied sour to- cocktail the drink. That's so delicious. Said promises to have you lip locked with a severed human toll and the Texas woman gets a frosty reception from the Homeowners Association for decorating her house in November. But she says she'll be two pregnant decker Paul's later because her baby is due on Christmas Day as it happens the Friday edition radio that comes bearing gifts of Gold Frankencense incense and not in my backyard. Today's star witness in Washington's impeachment inquiry was calm steely and defiant former. US ambassador author to Ukraine. Marie Yovany Vich told the House Intelligence Committee. She felt quote shocked appalled and devastated when she learned president. Donald Trump had insulted. It's at her during a call with Ukraine's president in July. She also told members of Congress that she was the victim of a smear campaign that led to her ouster. Here's part of what she said in her opening statement. I have always understood that I served at the pleasure of the president. I still find it difficult to to comprehend that foreign and private interests were able to undermine. US interests in this way individuals who apparently felt stymied Our efforts to promote stated US policy against corruption that has to do our mission were able to successfully conduct a campaign of disinformation against tasting embassador using unofficial back channels as various witnesses have recanted. They shared baseless allegations with the president and convinced him to remove his ambassador despite the fact that the State Department fully understood that the allegations were false and the sources highly suspect. These events should concern everyone in this room during the hearing Democratic Chairman Adam Schiff clearly been following president trump's twitter feed and he asked Ambassador Ianovich reached for her reaction in the moment as we sit here testifying. The president is attacking you on twitter. I like to give you a chance to respond. I'll read part of one of his tweets. Everywhere Marie Ivanovich went turn bad. She started off Somalia that go He goes on to say later on the tweet is a US presence absolute right to appoint ambassadors ambassador. Shown the courage to come forward today and testify defy notwithstanding the fact you urge by the White House or State Department not to notwithstanding the fact that as you testified earlier the president implicitly. Threatened you in that call record and now the president real time is attacking you. What effect do you think that has on other witnesses? Willingness to come forward and expose wrongdoing. Well it's very intimidating dine designed to intimidate is it not. I mean I can't speak to what the president is trying to do but I think the effect is to be intimidating. Let you faster that some of us here. Take witness intimidation varies very seriously. That was former ambassador. Marie Ivanovich speaking with Democratic chairman. Adam Schiff earlier today Daniel freed is the former ambassador to Poland and former assistant secretary of state he has known Ambassador Ianovich for twenty five years. We reached him in Washington. DC Vaster Fade. First of all. Why do you think it was important to hear from ambassador? Mariana Vich today. I in the the interest of full disclosure. I've known ambassador you've had for twenty five years and for some of those years. I was her boss so I'm not a neutral party. It was important to hear from her because she demonstrates that the president of the United States was being steered by bad information information coming from questionable and I believe corrupt sources in Ukraine and. He made the decision to rover based on these sources. But she wouldn't. She spoke today. She gave details about what the smear campaign of her she talked about the role that president that trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani played leading to her ouster and people who may have benefited from that. It's damning stuff but is it really part of an impeachment richman preceding. I mean is it really crucial to what we need to know about that phone call between President Trump and presence alinsky ambassador Ivanov. It's revealed today is not by itself impeachable but what she revealed is not standing by itself. What she revealed is that the president in the case case of our ambassador? US Ambassador in Keith was following a trail information outside normal government channels and a corrupt trail at that. That's what she demonstrated in. That's all that you demonstrated and Marie Arana Vich is testimony. Today gave us insight into one related but not central aspect of that that larger story and introduction we heard Democratic Chairman Adam Schiff and he read out. The tweet tweet came in real time while ambassador. Uganda Vich was testifying. What did you make of that moment? It was appalling ambassador Yvonne which was explaining how she reacted when she learned that her president president trump had threatened her in a conversation with a foreign leader from the July twenty fifth. Phone call between President from and presidents Alinsky and as she is explaining that president trump is attacking her in a tweet that appeared designed to intimidate her. This was something he did not do. President trump didn't tweet out anything of this nature during the testimony of of investor. Bill Taylor or George Kent which came earlier this week. What is it about today's testimony? Do you think that provoked him to do that. Well I can't speak As to the president's motives I have noticed a pattern with president trump. That strong women bother him on some some deeper level or at least they appear to. This is speculation on my part but it is speculation informed about past patterns from this president. I play a bit of tape from the response of of the ranking Republican member. Mr Newness who spoke about whether the ambassador was was unnecessary witness in any of this. Let's listen to what he had to say. We're not exactly sure what the ambassador is doing today. This is the House Intelligence Committee Eddie. That's now turned into the housing peach. committee This seems more appropriate For the Subcommittee on Human Resources at the foreign born affairs committee. If there's issues with employment disagreements with the administration that would seem more appropriate setting Instead of an impeachment Aaron where the ambassador is not A material fact witness to anything any of the accusations that have been hurled. Devin nunes is basically saying that this is human resources issues. There's nothing to impeachment. What do you say to him fish for? All you might have a point. But it isn't isn't the heart of this is not the dismissal of ambassador. Uganda which after a smear campaign at heart is the president forsaking his public duties for the sake of his private and partisan political interest. What ambassador on which made clear is that the president was inclined inclined to follow? The advice of Rudy Giuliani his private lawyer and Giuliani's corrupt and now under arrest associates impart ons and in that context. Ambassador testimony is relevant. Very important what she said about Rudy Rudy. Giuliani's business associates. The fellows you just mentioned who are now indicted on campaign finance charges including funneling foreign money to make campaign donations nations as they lobbied to get her removed from her job. How important is it that At some point the committee. Here's some Rudy Giuliani. It would be useful it certainly would be colorful. Many of the Republicans have complained that the witnesses so far have only second-hand Dan information or third hand information. Well if that is the case in the Republicans should welcome the testimony of people with firsthand information the fact that they are not not doing so suggests that their complaints are not to be taken as seriously as they hope. There was great expectations or hopes and the part of the Democrats. What's to see ambassador vantage? Have an effect. It means that the public could see her hoping that she would be sympathetic. Figure do you think it had much tiven effect on the public. Well I can't say public opinion may not move by increments. There may come a breaking point but in any event affecting public opinion is not the major issue at some point. You simply have to stand up and do what. Decency and the Constitution require in this case when the president of the United States is following his private partisan interests at the expense of his public duties. Then it's incumbent upon people who have the authority which in this case is the Congress House of Representatives to stand up and that becomes a sort of categorical call imperative. It's important to do what's right and that's afraid we will leave it there and I appreciate speaking with you. Thank you I wish you were speaking under somewhat more cheerful circumstances circumstances but here we are and the opportunity that by Daniel freed is a distinguished fellow at the Atlantic Council and is a former assistant secretary are your state for European and Eurasian Affairs. We reached him in Washington. DC SANCTUM CARE group. Says it's done waiting for provincial. Support the Saskatoon Organization had hoped to offer for what they're calling their angels cradle initiative. Last fall the idea is to set up a secure box that would allow parents to anonymously. Drop off infants. Who who they can't care for but those plans were put on hold? When Saskatchewan's Ministry of Social Services said it wanted more study then last week? A baby's body was found undiscovered in a downtown recycling bin. Now sanctum care. Group says the time for study has passed local physician. John Dawson agrees. He's offering to foot the bill himself. We reached Dr Dawson in Saskatoon with Aspen. Why does this matter so much to you to have this angels cradle? Well I guess I guess it matters to me personally because it really hits home with me. I was left outside of a hospital. Pull in Saskatoon in nineteen seventy eight Thankfully it was July and I was found quickly and I also I do a lot a lot of work with prenatal care and obstetrics and deliver a lot of babies and a lot of our clients are kind of at risk so there there are people who might benefit from having much support in the community as possible. You've said that you're ready to foot the bill. Well what do you think such a such such a program or or or some place like this. This angels cradle. What do you think it would actually cost Well I guess I don't know official official number And well I said I would foot the bill I would probably do some fundraising around that. But I've been told that somewhere around ten thousand dollars. Yeah and so. The Sanctum Care Group has opted to move ahead with the initiative so the province is still reluctant to give its full endorsement. Is that right. That's what I understand. Yes why do you think so why do you think the provinces is wants to look into this more I think last year when When thanked him you know? I said that they wanted to move forward to this. I think I think the initial kneejerk reaction was the fear around you know if a child is left anonymously than not going through the usual channels. Then they'd be disconnected from past family medical history. You you know culture. History is some of their ancestry Which is true but I think they were looking at it as this potentially replacing people going through you know the normal channels as opposed to our viewpoint that this is replacing? Those extreme circumstances where where moms are not connected with the system at all and don't want to be you know other other places where this has been done. I mean it hasn't led to a flood gates being open. I think then cougars had at at Saint Pauls hospital downtown for nine years and they've had two or three babies left so it's a very rare occurrence and this might replace. I'm leaving being dumpster November and that is exactly what happened. Isn't it last week and infants frozen body was discovered in a recycling bin in Saskatoon. I WANNA play a clip from Scotch on Social Services Minister. Paul Merriman speaking yesterday and he. He addressed that. Ah Tragic incident and He spoke about sanctum care. Groups decision to proceed with its angels cradle plan. We have to look at everything. We had a meeting. Where we pull in eighty-five community members in Saskatoon everything from the health regions to Saskatoon Tribal Council? E Gad's sanctum. was there as well to be able to discuss us at that time. The decision was made to to make sure that we were on the proactive side of things. that We didn't get to the point. Where angels cradle would would be used uh-huh and even in this specific case? We don't know the circumstances around it. What do you say to him when he says there's no way of knowing if if this baby was even abandoned abandoned or what had happened and rather the cradle would've helped? Oh He's just he's right there would be. We don't know you know I work in healthcare. So yes prevention is worth a lot and but we would never say we're gonNA stop funding treatment because we're only going to focus on on on prevention for heart disease rather than spend money on cardiac catheterization like that would be crazy. Can you imagine the circumstances in which a UH woman would use an angels cradle of this kind of use this opportunity. Yeah I've I've I've thought about various scenarios scenarios and circumstances that might have might have led my mom or my birth family to kind of make the decision they make and you know this past week. I've I've I don't it's been pretty emotional for me and brought up a lot of stuff just thinking about what what this mother might have been going through. Probably pretty isolated pretty alone pretty cut off not wanting to kind of engage with with the system. You're left In July not November. Though have you been ever ever known any any knowledge as we. We among might've been don't know I I don't put myself out there. You know a few times and then the media just kind of trying to see if anything loose but I don't know if no one's come flirting really talked about it to me But I still you know. I think there's probably some love in that act of of leaving me somewhere where I'd probably be found quickly in in a safe place. You believe it was an active level on the part of your mom. Yeah do you think the province will eventually come around and support. Sanctum Care Group. I certainly hope so i. I would hate for a wonderful organization like thanked him to to have any negative they give relationship with with one of the agencies that they were closely with like social services. You know I as a physician last year in two thousand eighteen The Scheduling Medical Association sent letters to you know the Minister of Health from the Minister of Social Services to express our support as a physician community and sketch Ashwin Four. You know the cradle initiative and what sanctums doing and Mr Marrone's words of of wanting more review. We said you know it'd be great great to have a physician on any committee that looks into you know next steps and then reviewing the issue but we never. We never heard anything back. Do you think now that you have Offered for this assistance with your experience. Do you think that you can really help instance along I think so. Yeah I just giving my history. There's there's not many people that have kind of seem the same story as me and just to just to help explain to people kind of my side of things I think might help. Donna does really appreciate speaking with you. Thank you thank you so much. Go by Dr. John Dawson says he's ready to help pay for an anonymous infant drop-off box in saskatoon even without the support of the province. We reached Dr Dawson in Saskatoon And it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas on one st in San Antonio Texas and if you think maybe it's a little too early for that Klaudia and Nick Simonas would disagree. They started putting up decorations on their front lawn the day after Halloween and all with Mary and bright until they received a note from their home owners association. We reached cloudiest Simonas at her home. INSENT Antonio Klaudia what what kinds of Christmas decorations put out in front of Your House on November. First we started within snowman like a six faith As though men win and then we also put a helicopter with the Santa on some reindeer. Senate that's an inflatable and we would make in many inflatable till what a mole. Once legal three little. Three that that that is why would lights. I sold so you you got a letter from the homeowners association that you didn't see for a few days what did they say to you so it said like please relief The violation was a we put them. And it's no were you sticking out. There's no man they said. Please Remove Judas snowmen on closer closer to the holiday season that unday Gable Ston they remove it. How big was the snowman? It's like like six six exclude. So what did they what what were what are the rules about decorations. And according to Your Homeowner's association well according to the letter on on the but by law they don't specify a time to start to start putting the coordination then they don't tell you the next day so so why did you put your decorations out so early. Because I'm pregnant Do December twenty any faith on general. No one baby can arrive so though recall arrive A little bit earlier on I. Just there's one like my kids. Do the Christmas spirit that we have on all other kids seven-year-old three-year-old we won them like I don't want them to maze. Lake Jake the decoration. The spirit and all that to become earlier won't be able to probably put that Croatian other you know what we decided right right after Halloween too. Does that whatever the creation your baby's due on Christmas Day exactly yes December. Twenty fifth. Okay so you you wanted to get ahead. Sure you want things ready. You want the kids to get into the Christmas spirit. You don't want to be caught going into labor. Sure before you got your decorations up. Yeah so what so when you got this note saying take it down. What did you do while my husband got the the letter he opened up he got upset he was about the writer? Any multo them on the kiss on the to me and I guess instead laughing like are you serious like I just. I would not upset that was I was pretty like I thought was funny so I I put the picture on the facebook group of my neighborhood. Our neighborhood facebook group. I put up a picture of the letter and I said who is. The range reported us when he said appropriate appropriate time to to cut. The decoration is late the twenty fourth of December. Good time or should I put back my my holy Hell Halloween decoration. And they know the neighbor to start getting upset about at the homeowner's association and they were also forty dollars for dinner. That Christmas lights syndication outside. Do you have all your neighbors started. Putting their Christmas decorations will especially the next door neighbor. People People Keep Christmas lights on keys. Twelve foot two feet are snowmen and other nations and some others are are waiting for the weekend. Winter start pouring down their lights. You know a twelve foot snowman. Have you had six feet. And they didn't like it. He put out twelve feet. Yes and they win a little. The bigger take that homeowners association. Okay so what. What is the reaction from the homeowners association since this well well No? We haven't heard from them like nothing that they haven't colas. They even sent a letter. They haven't said send a fine or anything. I don't know if they're gonNA finance or I don't know they just stick into anyone to any new station or anyone they're fighting and so have you have. You didn't take the snowman down have you. Have you put anything else up. Yes no I mean. We didn't remove any of our decoration. We added more more decoration with us. No Mum what I did. It's I put some fans giving leaps around at the now pumpkin and then I put a sign on the snowman. I am a Thanksgiving decorations tonight sore. So now we have Thanksgiving even the Christian and still be fine. Your thanksgiving snowman and so a and your neighbor with the snowman was was there. Someone someone Outta grinch to one of these decorations me looking at. We're looking For grants the whole a a San Antonio until we find one and then I added Signed that says I'm your your Hoa Your Hoa. You put that on the Grinch Wjr Fun and so your own neighborhoods having fun with this yes. It's true it's fun now. Yeah so you have everything ready. You're not even thanksgiving. You've got all your Christmas American thanksgiving and You're all you're all set. You're all all set for Thanksgiving and Christmas. We usually we just make thermobaric ten days after which is fine and you just need to have your baby. Oh Oh yeah Oh yes I can wait cloudy. It's great to talk to you. Thank you thank you so much. Bye Thank you. We reached cloudy. Simonas in San Antonio Texas if you want to see photos of the Simonas family. Christmas display All it's November. Glory go to our webpage. CBC DOT CA slash as it happens residents are Shelburne Nova Scotia. Were thrilled when the actor Ellen page offered to pay for community well to supply them with fresh water. They say they're private. Wells are contaminated and running dry. Because of droughts the situation association is particularly acute in the south end of town where people don't have access to the municipal water system and depend on private well water but the mayor says says the issue isn't so simple and now the town is calling for further study. Louise delillo lives in Shelburne south end and has been advocating for the new well. Aw Louise What do you do for drinking water. These days and Shelbourne own majority of people are buying bottled water. Usually what we we do for drinking water. What did you suspect that there might be something wrong with your well-water why did you get it tested? We started giving the test. Because we're trying to find a why we had so many rare cancers in our community especially in the south in Kansas like multiple myeloma lung cancers that are kind of rare the type of lung cancer we had a brain cancers and not saying that cancer is not everywhere but it it seemed that there was a large amount of people and young people with cancer in the South San. And did you find the water. Had anything to do with this in the cancers and in your community. We haven't gotten that far yet. We don't know we don't we can't we can't save. It was but we did find that our water was contaminated with calley form. Any coli. Now how did you. How did you get the attention of the actor Ellen page how? How did she get involved with with Shelbourne? Ingrid Walden wrote a book called or something in the water and it hurt book. She references Shelbourne and Allen's co-producer e and read the Book and Alan read the Book and then contact went back to congratulated. Came to me so we got involved with this The film that way in Ellen page. He made a documentary based based on this book. There's something in the water and Shelbourne was one of the communities she featured in that and and so but then it came to be that she offered a to actually buy a well to actually get a drilled. Well for your community right yes she did it was just. It's just a gift she she's that kind of person she's so kind and caring she just. She just wanted to help in some way and she wants to help the community in some way so she offered offered to have a well drilled in the community so when people's wells are dry this a source of clean water in the community The SOLTA into Shelbourne has wells. And that's all they have the rest of the town than center at town North into town have of access to town water but the southern had doesn't have that option the And this is what one of the part of the story that Ellen Page and the and Ingrid Walden. WHO say? We're we're telling. Isn't it that these. Your end of town is predominantly black and there is a belief that the reason why you don't I don't have water and the rest of the town does is because of discrimination. Is that right. That's environmental discrimination. Yes environmental racism. We talked about the dump. That was our first issue was our community was becoming ill because of leachate from the dump that was there that dump. It's closed now. But it was research from the late forties. There was a lot of stuff dump their like chemicals and whatnot dump there and we're we were thinking that you know it got into the ground and got into our well so that's was one of the reasons why we started a pain to have people swells tested that you haven't I found it. That leaching is the issue at this point. You know that only time that we haven't found there's been some suspects some some things that could it'd be leaching but nothing that shows predominantly that it was Lee Ching but meanwhile ellen page is offered to have drilled well to overcome. Come to as the problems you have one is that there's this E. coli problem in the Doug Wells and also the wells run dry and during drought periods. So much would it cost to ellen page with how much she offering to to spend a little research and we got a quote of between ten and twelve thousand dollars to put a drilled. Well Elliott just to have a source of clean water. And that's not a lot of money now of course as you know. Your Mayor Town's Mayor Karen Marital is. You're saying that it's more complicated than that. Because once you have that well it has to be maintained and it has to be cleaned it can still get contaminated even drilled well L. and That it's cost a lot of money to do that. How do you respond to him? I really don't see that because the infrastructure if if they put the wall where we want them to put the well all that infrastructure is already there so worked it out to to less than fifteen dollars a year. It's not a lot of money so it's just not a lot of money compared to what you know what the town's spends on other things things but but you'd still have to go and get it right. It's still not going to be piped in Australia. Would have to go and get it. Yes she would. Okay the mayors also saying that if it's GonNa be if they're going to have it at all and have the town pay for the maintenance it's going to. It should be any more central location so that everyone can use it. What do you say to that? Everyone I'm can use it if it's in the south and why not. They already have like. I said two sources of clean water but this well was donated donated for the black community not for the center of town. I really don't don't understand. It's it's turned into into this. This great big chaos things. They're not paying for the well. We're not asking them to pay for the wall. What is Ella Gate? What is Ellen page saying saying about all of this? This Allen is initially was very upset. And she's what she's saying is she's following my lead. What we had planned planned on? Was this wonderful celebration of this wonderful gift of clean water a very positive thing for the town and then and this council was turned it into chaos. I mean it's a if I was taught when when somebody gave you a gift whether you don't use it right away you take that gift from very grateful for Louise. We will leave it. There will be following the story and I appreciate speaking with you. Thank you thank you by Louisa. Louise's Dalil is a Shelburne county resident and member of the Southend Environmental Injustice Society. We reached her in Shelburne Nova Scotia In Yukon's Dawson city. The downtown hotel has an old tradition. That comes with one rule. You can drink it fast. You can drink. It's slow but your lips must touch that gnarly to- that's in respect to the sour dough cocktail often served with one part whiskey Sqi and always served with one part preserved human toe. The Downtown Hotel has been serving the drinks since nineteen seventy three. And we've been talking about it on our show pretty much ever since. It all started with Riverboat Captain Dick Stevenson. Mr Stevenson died yesterday morning and white horse. He was eighty nine. Mr Stevenson's spoke to former as it happens Dennis Trudeau in nineteen eighty Captain Stevenson. How did this hour to- cocktail come to be in the first place? Where did you get? The toll bought a cabin for my cup of Plaster Minors it's sorta retired getting too old Auto Louis lichens couple Norwegian. Thermometers rum runners. Ars trappers prospectors affecting our country heard the toys in there when I was cleaning out off an empty pickle jars a. d. either the toll rattling around. Where did the token from have they used to run rum during probation days between NEOCON over and we're Alaska and on one trip. They wearing wearing marcus when he got an over for that water. Thunder needs to smell. It is what wet frozen pictorial gangrene set in. His brother passed Opie rummy. Didn't have nerve enough the cutoff toffee. Charlotte offers a thirty thirty rifle towers. elder out of hotel. I dreamed up this Cocktail it's it's sort of a takeoff Robert surfaces ice firm cocktail where they participation Spaghetti with red spots in which we do it for rail they try to Human Beethoven bear from Champagne and down Classes Champagne we call it a sour cocktail champagne. Anto Santo Follow Towel. Unfortunately happen does summer. Yeah he was. Count Makara Creek area. Gary Young's rang. They say a US hold sorta six the next day swallow. Yeah he was He was pretty loaded. Ninety back right off the chair whenever taking allows Golf Karen went over backwards when they hit the ground and kind of health. Talk to all because quite a feat by itself. I didn't think it could be done. How big was the tote it swell down the first joint not the big toe? The nail hair towel not about mentioned half long normal human big towel people have tried at this hour told cocktail number. Seven hundred twenty five hundred seven hundred and twenty-five Warren Hellman. Pierre Burton his daughter. They got hers. I I made my about Last summer she drank got reluctantly. What do you get when you when you managed to drink this hour? To- cocktail after Catholic. Made up here remember our co crop and was hoping to break at one thousand mark and then take a membership on them running club. We'll do it next year. What are you GonNa do though that you have no telling where we're GONNA? I would like to put an ad out and get some toes and I made a promise I if I haven't got a call by the next year I showed my own off and I've never back the dairy yet so I'm hoping to get some toes special trip outside this winter. Make sure I got to tell us what I just WanNa Lewis Line. That is Dick. Stevenson the inventor of the sour to- cocktail speaking with former as it happens dentist Trudeau in nineteen eighty. Mr Stevenson died yesterday. He was eighty nine now. In addition to being gulped down by accident the toes also been swallowed on purpose. It's been the subject of a police investigation and it was even at the center. Her of a brief manhunt after it had been stolen today. More than one hundred thousand people can say they know what a mummified human toe tastes like. Well it's unclear whether Mr Stevenson did in fact sacrifices on to- to keep the tradition going. His daughter has said that one of his final requests was that she dry out how many ever toes Rosie had remaining and donate them to the bar. ooh Rob Bagrov is heading back to work and this time it seems to be for good the Port Moody. BC Mayor took a voluntary leave of absence earlier this year. After he was charged with sexual assault he denied. The allegations is and in September. He returned to City Hall but in October Port Moody Councillors voted for him to step away from his role again as the case was heard earlier earlier this week. The charges against him were stayed. The crown said Mr Vagapov had completed an alternative measures program but didn't give any details on what that involved yesterday afternoon. Mayor Rob Bagrov spoke with reporters. Have you alternative measures process first off. It was approved by the crown. I was agreed to by the complain. It I apologize to the complainant way back when this first came out For the awkward date that we had. I apologized again recently. And if she you brought this back She brought this up back in two thousand fifteen. I would've gladly apologize then because it was never my intention to leave with any kind of negative impression and there was nothing else else involved in the alternative measures program. It hasn't been a pleasant process to go through. But like I said it hasn't been easy on anybody involved I think that the same can be set for the complainant for sure. I know firsthand that has not been an easy process to go. I don't I don't dance your question no no. I don't see myself as a victim. Yeah I mean it's you know like I said some of the things that are Some of the pieces of this are still confidential What I can say is that that I went on a number dates with the complainant. Back in two thousand fifteen. It wasn't a match And it wasn't until three and a half almost almost four years later that It was raised to me. That the complainant You know felt like she had her An issue with with the way that the date went down and That's you know next thing you know. We're here well. I I left a negative impression and I feel I feel awful about that. Raw Vaclav the mayor of Portwood. ABC Speaking at a press conference yesterday after it was announced that the sexual assault sexual assault charge against him. had been stayed in the Bay of Fundy lies between Nova Scotia and you Brunswick and it's known for its high tides and flowerpot formations but new research is drawing attention to another feature the trash lying on the base floor according to a study published in Marine and pollution bulletin that debris is numerous and widespread and totals an estimated one point eight million pieces of garbage Alexa Goodman as a research assistant Cintas Dalhousie University one of the study's lead authors. We reached her in Halifax Goodman. Can you give us an idea. What kinds of garbage you found the bottom from the Bay of Fundy? We've found roughly fifty percent plastic. We found seventeen garbage bags mostly partially you covered by sediment and we found about twenty eight percent of fishing debris like ropes we found two derelict fishing traps and the rest was metal. Over how large in area we sampled at two hundred eighty one different stations and we really only saw a small snippet of the seafloor you so you sampled these areas. You could see what was there when you see these small samples as many as seventeen garbage bags. What do you think that is if you could sort of estimate from there? How much of this garbage is down there? Extrapolating that data with the calculations that we did gives us an estimation of nearly two million uses of garbage. That's just on the sea floor is a dump coast buys was there a barge or something that may have dumped. Could it be offended in kind of an incident or do you think this accumulation. It's very hard to tell. I mean this area is highly dynamic. It has the world's highest tides the amount of water that flushes in and out of the funding every day is equivalent to all the freshwater rivers in the world so you have a lot of strong strong water movement a lot of sediment and sand be moved around so is really hard to tell how long those bags have been down there but what I can tell you is that most of the debris on on average was found within nine kilometers from shore. On the periphery fishing area. So it might be an isolated incident it could also be an area of accumulation based based on the ocean conditions. Does it surprise you to find that much abandoned or lost fishing gear. No actually in. In comparison to other the areas of the World War similar research has been done specifically in the North West Mediterranean and in Europe. We actually found less fishing gear. And I think that this is in part because Fisher is in the Bay of Fundy are trying really hard to retrieve any year that they lose but but also because of the high water movement so there are likely hotspot areas that maybe we did or didn't hit where debris accumulating and he saw car tires down there too. I guess and things like we we did. We found a few retires so now by looking at the new car tires the garbage bags the fishing gear. You were diving down there right. You're actually filming it. Yes so The camera system that we use is a regular camera that anyone could own but the students at the Applied Ocean Research Lab at an Sec Nova Scotia Community College. They built a specialized housing to go round this camera. That has a long cable almost like an umbilical cord and it's called a drop system. Because they basically they dropped this camera in this special housing off the back of a boat at its filming. Basically whatever is in its field of you two drops down and it's still me so this so then you watched I mean. I know people binging Netflix. But how many hours of his underwater footage did you watch thirty three hours. So a few seasons of something on Netflix but not quite as dramatic yet an inadequate as dramatic and it was at points. It was really interesting. So I'm scuba diver and you can only go so so deep so when we had the camera in the deeper water it was really interesting to see types of starfish that I've never seen before in Atlantic waters different types of enemies really large monkfish and scope in jumbo lobsters. And then you know you see a some garbage bags and it's all disheartening. Because because you've just been in our I've the beauty of our ocean and then you know you can't help but realize that it's also polluted. Can you see how these two who million pieces of garbage are affecting that marine life in this study we did not observe any direct impacts to marine life. But it's important to recognize that these items do still pose a threat. At the end of the day they are taking up habitat that would otherwise be pristine mm for marine. Animals is also important to remember that these items breakdown over time trading micro-plastics. We know that you know animals are ingesting costing this and we know that humans are ingesting plastics to. It's in our water. It's in our beer sooner seafood. But we're not quite sure what the effects on human health are and so oh I think it is still cause for concern. Even though he didn't observe any direct impacts to marine life the Bay of Fundy is world famous in his place. It's people go there because it is so beautiful. What do you want people to take away from this? What what what? What do you want people to do knowing that what they don't see on on the floor of the Bay of fundy the garbage? Everyone has a role to play. Yes policy needs to change. It needs to support beg bands and reducing single used plastics cutting greenhouse gas emissions than yes industry needs to step up but everyday folks like you and I have the opportunity to make choices that either either support reducing single used plastics and reducing our environmental footprint or not one of the easiest things that we could do is reconsider the coffee top up saying if I don't have a usable Coffee Cup. I'm not getting a coffee. It's as simple as that because every single use item adds up everything that we do has an impact act and so I think that this is an opportunity for folks to really reconsider their waste. And knowing that that The the people in the fishing industry in in Atlantic Canada. Quite conscious of what's going on. We're you at least slightly encouraged to see that there was less abandoned fishing gear. The band funding the new sales. Were absolutely I think that the fishers out here are really well aware that they coexist in this space. I mean the bay. Funding is a sensitive biological area so Kudos to them and I'm happy that we didn't find much fishing gear but just because we didn't see it doesn't mean it's not there doesn't mean it's not still a problem keep in mind. We did only see a very small portion. We will leave David them as Goodman. Thank you thank you so much. Alexa Goodman is a research assistant at Dalhousie University one of the authors of a new study looking at garbage on the bottom of the Bay of Fundy we reached Ms Goodman in Halifax. You've been listening to the as it happens. podcast our show can be heard Monday to Friday on. CBC Radio One and on Sirius Xm following the world at six. You can also listen to the whole show on the web just go to. 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"Judge Robinson"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:22:43 hr | 2 years ago

"Judge Robinson"

"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show. His barrister, Mr. Patrick Getty's. In defending him said, yes, obviously, this is a bizarre set of circumstances. And my client is apologetic for his actions. Mr. Jameson is at a loss to explain behavior. He was under an enormous amount of pressure from where he seems to have simply lost the plot. So there's call drugs drugs. They tested became. He just lost a little bit of our humping. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now already were chatter. It's a great day. Supposedly going to get worse as the day goes on terms of temperature. And then I guess Monday and Tuesday is snow and rain in Washington. Not so much snow and rain today over the weekend, just cold. Gary Braun is here, gene mcmanus's here. Michael Kornheiser is here Nigel will produce the show run the board. Do the news we're at the corner, Jennifer street, north west, Wisconsin avenue northwest. This is the first of my reminders that three weeks from today. Three weeks. Actually, no, it's less than three weeks because it's Thursday night twenty eight there's February twenty eighth Waldron who handle all of my finances at the moment because I'm too stupid to be able to do it myself. But smart enough to know, I can't do it myself. Right. Waldron has gonna come here. It's going to be an open bar. There's going to be a party. They wanna meet people. They do wanna get clients. I don't think you have to worry if you have no money because the first question will be do you have no money stand over there? Go with mesh bullet saliva. But what what not Helford said that I should say is very simply this. This is the same company that advised me not to buy the restaurant. Peyot me out. They're going to spend a lot of money and have a party here. So put it on your calendars the way we begin the show today. And there's a lot of things that we can begin with having to do with the NBA and we'll get to them. But we begin with Frank Robinson passing away at age eighty three yesterday twice in his life. He was probably the second most famous Robinson. He was less famous than Jackie Robinson. When he played a Baltimore. He was less famous than Brooks Robinson. He is one of the giants in baseball history. He's one of the greatest players ever when he retired. He had five hundred eighty six home runs and the only people when he retired with more home runs than him. Where people we like to call Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron Willie Mays. So that's pretty good company. He was I don't wanna say unlike them, but more than them. Frank Robinson was respected and loved by teammates. Black and white. Frank robinson. Ran the kangaroo court in Cincinnati. And he took it over to Baltimore where? All minor offenses all problems that anybody had with anybody else where judicata by Frank Robinson. And nobody repealed because everybody thought Frank Robinson was fair and tough. I'm going to recommend to you to great pieces today by Tom Boswell and berries release. They are great pieces. They are in the Washington Post, which anybody can access, and I would if I were you. I'd stop what you're doing right now can only listen to me to very different Dipak pieces, different pieces and just wonderful pieces. Frank Robinson is the only man to this point who's been the MVP in both leagues. He was the MVP and Cincinnati in nineteen sixty one he was the MVP and a triple crown winner in Baltimore in nineteen sixty six he was the first black manager. He managed the Cleveland Indians player manager. I think for year he ended up managing four different teams, including the initial couple of seasons of the of the reboot of the Montreal Expos as the Washington nationals. I've got a couple of stories that I will tell, but I wanna I talk about my friend, David Israel, who would would be the smartest sports writer in the world. If he were still a sports writer, but he hasn't been for forty years of David, and I are good friends and David is and was a good friend of Frank Robinson's. David lives in LA, Frank Robinson Lilla. He got a house in Bel Air and David knew the family, very, very, well, and David and I had this conversation last night. And in David's opinion, the three most important people in the history of baseball or Babe Ruth who sold the game to America who just everybody looked at Babe Ruth as as larger than life and Babe Ruth was that important, and he made baseball in America changed everything about it and made it accessible to everybody. This is long before baseball games are televised. I'm not sure there was television at that point. They were on radio. But you didn't get them all across the country. Just got local thing, and and Babe Ruth made baseball attractive and made the World Series and the Yankees the thing that you wanted to see and was. Also before he got to the Anki. And this is not talked about enough. He's the best pitcher in baseball. He became the best hitter of all time. And he was the best pitcher in baseball at that particular time David has Babe Ruth one as anybody would any as Jackie Robinson too. Because Jackie Robinson, integrated baseball in terms of social change and progress and the equality of nation. Jackie Robinson was the right person at the right time and stunningly important and David has Frank Robinson third because we're Frank Robinson. Did was show America. Black people in America who were involved in baseball, and sports and all of America there. You're not just a baseball player. There's room for you to be involved in the game on the cerebral level of managing and in the front office. And that's why David believes that those three people are the three most important people baseball could fled for. I I would have Kurt flood for me, curt flood, and Marvin Miller and changing the reserve was and leading to the freedoms in all sports. You know that we have today and increasing salaries by you know, exponentially I I wouldn't have had Frank Robinson top three. But I was persuaded as you were talking. Wait a minute. I put curt flood three and then. Opened up it opened up for not as many people as everybody would like, but more than had ever been there before pioneering on the part of Frank Robinson. I had you know. I'd Meyer Frank Robinson. As a player. Everybody said he was difficult. Even those people who Boswell who loves him says he's the most ordinary man he has ever met. And he always did that David told me this great this great story that Frank Robinson was over his house. I don't know eight or nine or ten years ago, maybe even more than that. And and he was wandering through the house, and he saw a picture that David Linde have up of the first cover of a magazine a short-lived sports magazine in New York called jock. And it was a wonderful magazine. All the great writers wrote for it. It was not a sports magazine as much as it was smart people writing about sports they had necessarily done it before. And it was very avant-garde. I think it might have been clay Felker magazine in New York and the the first cover he's got the first cover mounted and the first cover is from the nineteen sixty-nine miracle Mets here and it's four guys on the Mets. And it's. Lever and it's cool, man. And it's clear on Jones and somebody else and they're planting the Mets flag like the Jima pose that's the first cover ever of jock magazine and Franco's back David, and he starts cursing and screaming have that thing up. How can you have that thing because to the day he died which was yesterday? Frank Robinson hated nineteen sixty-nine because he was on the Baltimore team lost in. What to that point? Was if not the greatest upset the sort of greatest moment of underdogs in baseball history because they had the Mets you didn't think had any business being there with the Orioles. And if you by the way, if you read the stories about Frank Robinson, you'll see that that stories like that are interspersed in everything else with Frank Robinson. So Frank Robinson to me was scary. Because I read all the stuff I was. I was not I was like sort of a sports writer maybe in his last couple of years as a man as a player, but I knew him a little bit more management. My first memory of Frank Robinson is actually has nothing to do with baseball. That was one of the it was a Miller lite commercial that he did with Brooks Robinson. They said we're brothers Franken Brooks. I just laughed every time I saw and they played it. They played it straight. And it was really it was really sort of wonderful, but my own my only experience with Frank Robinson that that that I remember vividly is running calm at the Washington Post. And he was managing the Orioles at that point. And the PR director for the Orioles was Rick Vaughn. We all. Richard Justice can tell ten million stores have been late eighties. Maybe nine hundred nine nine I think earlier than that. But maybe maybe because I started writing the column nineteen Eighty-four, and I might have gone over there when they able eighty eight to ninety one he was managed. Okay. So yeah. Okay. Ladies, and I'm writing account for the Washington Post, and I go up to Baltimore. And I forgotten the reason, but I'm sitting with Frank Robinson. This is after a game, and it's going very badly smiling. That's very family. No matter what I ask him. I'm getting two word answers. I'm getting hostility thinking you might be escorted to the board. After. I'm not really understanding this 'cause I don't go there with a particular attitude. I mean, I really don't I don't have a particular gender. You didn't say you feel dejected? Not I didn't do anything like that. And so. At twenty minutes in and it's like, what are we doing here? Twenty minutes in Rick Vaughn, says Tony excuse us for a second Frank. I need to talk about something. And I said, okay, fine. And I got the sense that something just happened. And Rick got got word and had to talk to Franken. Sulfide? I come back in and Frank is incredibly expensive. Don't give everything I asked is great like while is really really good. And I go back and write a puff piece. Of course, I read a puff piece. A couple years later. Rick Vaughn said to me you remember that. I it was a weird. He goes he I said to Frank I said Frank this Kyle killing. This savages people. Why are you doing this? And then Frank changed and enrich says if you're nice to him, he'll just puff you forever. Because he's he's so that was that was funny. The story that that I had then, but I mean BAAs BAAs lip with them Barry lip with him. I mean, these these pieces are these pieces are truly great. And I can't I cannot stress enough that although Frank Robinson. He's not Willie Mays. He's not Hank. Aaron who were his contemporaries giant giant figuring baseball just the giant figure, and it was it was that respected black white Latin players all had for Frank Robinson. I don't know that you see that a lot and appeased as a player I heard Kirk in an interview saying Brooks Robinson who you mentioned earlier who sort of our radio third baseman in in Baltimore. But Brooks Robinson told kurkin he taught us how to win. Frank Robinson showed up in nineteen sixty six we didn't know what to do. I'm probably on triple crown and MVP in both. I'm thirty years younger than you. I remember Frank Robinson is a managed. I mean, I was aware that it was a player as a kid. I, you know. Stats that that drown you in baseball. I remember as a kid learning MVP in both leagues and just looking at his numbers. I don't know. How how would we get them? Then I guess I would look in a book or encyclopedia. Baseball numbers are just astounding that I mean, they're still very impressive. But they've been watered down numbers have through years, but they're still again, the only people with more home runs than Frank Robinson to that point where Babe Ruth, hang and Willie Mays. Who are you know, you could argue that that is the all time outfield in the history of baseball Aaron maze Ruth and could argue that easily, and I don't know I was a Oriole fan in my late teens early twenties when he was the manager those were not good good Auriol teams lovable teams but teams, but he was just he was a larger than life figure like even then he was just he he had this. I think it's just as a young fan of the game. He just had this aura about him. I mean, he struck me as like a very big, man. I never physically, but no six four you pointing out before we started, the the connective tissue side with other athletes. Yeah. But you mentioned flood you'll Russ he played basketball in high school when if you wrestle and baseball in high school with Kurt slash just amazing. This was an old. I remember him because I was Washington senators fan. So of course, the Baltimore Orioles would come to town and hammer the center senators game after game after game. But he was very very much part of my memory of of those two was a great and grand gesture and the smart thing to do that the nets name to manager with fame here. Absolutely. The right thing to do. Nobody spent much he finished at first year five hundred five hundred that's team place at the all star team thirty thirty below five hundred and finished at five. Five hundred and that was stuck it to the man. Mr. DeWitt in Cincinnati faded them to Baltimore and saying he was an old thirty and he was kicking him off the off to Montemar just just wanna world. He was a just a, but a great a giant figure the Washington Post today. Not everybody gets the paper because so many people have it online. They vote the top two thirds of the sports page to Frank Robinson and a picture of him in an Orioles unify they don't do that. That's costly real estate, right, gene? That's costly real estate. So not only is there a one story, but the sports page two thirds and a lot happened yesterday in sports a lot and Frank Robinson. Now, we got this. We knew it's been about a week since everybody said the Frank Robinson that the family had asked for people to respect their privacy. Which is always an indication that you know, he's going on we yesterday, we were planning to do a whole show on on the NBA on trades and stuff like that. And about three three thirty. Maybe it was being reported. The Frank Robinson has died and now very often. And in most cases, in almost all cases with. The passing of an athlete or someone related to sports we make room in our show, and we say in a melancholy trails to we put this in the block because he's he's big Willie Mays going in the block. Yeah. Hank Aaron going in the block, you know, this is he's too big to be at the end too big. I mean couldn't lead. That's not something you lead with. But that was numbers retired by ten percent of the league. I mean, he's got the red hills. And Indians of retired at number big deal. Very big. I we will take a break when we come back. Tim Legua will join us. And we'll talk about the basketball news of the day yesterday being the trade deadline in the NBA. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the seacat we do this a lot do it. 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Is carved out a fantastic career in television. And I'm happy to say that I was sort of there at the beginning with George, Michael and Tim Legler. That's what is that. That's that's well over twenty years how long ago was that. Not quite twenty. This is my eighteenth season in the industry. So and you absolute not just there at the beginning. You're out your major reason why this started in the first place, you you're the first one to take aside at some point say, I think this is new doing your life when you get basketball. I didn't think it would necessarily start right away. If I wanted to coach here, I am Tony eighteen years later. So I appreciate the time. I would hardly call it guidance. But I will say that they're there to people in my life who had that conversation with both of them. I think are really good and the other one when she was a tennis player and still in her twenties and had a bad knee injury. And was thinking I don't know how much longer I can play Mary Carillo liked. What was brilliant and Mary Carillo. Let's face it. Seek turned out to be great miracles. Didn't Tim I wanna say when at nine eighty when I was still there. So I left there ninety seven. I thought Tim had was filling. In for you at times even about that. I thought you were doing a little bit of TV not necessarily that you were still playing when you started. I'm not talking about just the ESPN thing. Didn't you relaying? What we really Tony? I absolutely absolutely filled in for you. In fact, why this whole thing began literally was you got a a policy on your show. And after I three I think they're stupid. After people shoot out you had me on. And you know, it went really, well, we had a good conversation, and then you had on more regularly, and then I absolutely filled in for you when you were not there. I don't know if you were going to Katia to where you were extended the entire show, and that Tim that would have been like ninety six maybe ninety five. Yes. Yeah. Well, I want at the ninety six and it was while I was injured. So I totally feel at the end of the ninety six or so most of that entire next year ninety six ninety seven I was out. I wasn't traveling with team, and it was different that time because I even called some college games and time that they were played in college park. Maryland never had a Christmas tournament. I called the games. I did color on those those were like first experience really in in radio or broadcast. Great, and we're world happy for you. I'll get to some actual questions. Now. The Lakers did not get Anthony Davis this. This was. Was a volcano for three or four days. And and clearly what happened here is that. The pelican said we may be damaged, and we may be wounded, and we may be embarrassed. But we're not dealing with these guys, and we're not dealing with Rich Paul, and what are the long term would a long-term ramifications of this. As you see if there are any. Yeah. What I think you hit it on the head because you know, you just I you're not sure if you know the Dell just take time try to be caught. Let's be the best deal once leverage the Lakers to get on the table. The more that this went on and the Lakers, basically, referring tire young court gal roster at plus picks. It then you understand like they just basically put up Stovall did not want to deal with the Lakers. They did not want it to be dictated to them by their star player. Their franchise guy. It was hard enough to slow the fact that he already included wanna be there. Now, you're also going to dictate where you're going to send me, and I think that is where dealt deficit appellative drew the line. Now, the irony in that is this when it's all said and done it might be very difficult to get any deal. That's as good as what the Lakers just off percent, right? That's it could be a pyrrhic victory could be worthless down the road. But they they stiffen their spines and said, we're not dealing with you. Yeah. It did. And people think well, you know, he was more options on the table. They want Boston to get involved, which they really can't make it off until July first and the Knicks clippers and see. Okay. Oh, that's well. Good. I'm just saying remember this when it's all said and done I think they're going to get an offer. That's going to match what they were offered. You're talking about five young players all of our good players your three or three or four guys start plus the pick. So I think it was one of the situations where they took a stance as an organization they were not going to deal with the Lakers. And it's going to remain to be seen that will now be something dealt deaths is going to really take the task for this summer, if they don't end up with something better, and they move Anthony Davis to a different team know, they've probably think well look at the end of the day. We could always still make this deal with the IRS in the summer. They're not going away. There's only one Anthony data. They're not gonna make deal that for some other guy. And we don't have the chance to go back and get those assets. That's where they think that's their thinking is. But in the meantime, they're going to try to find out if anybody else could get close to as attractive, so they can make the move and avoid have to deal with them. Then let me just make a right turn on this and ask you and your experiences a player. I'm sure there were times in your life with you. And with teammates, you were close to where their names were dangled out there, and it became public in the way that Magic Johnson clearly leaked who was going to be available to New Orleans these young guys, and they're reading that they're not wanted by their team nearly as much as the guy they're going to bring in. How does that affect players and for how long him? Yeah. That's a brutal situation compared to last night when they took the court against self is give credit. They got a nice win after get out. But but I compared it to LeBron James going on a honeymoon five x lives that's kind of doing. And that's what he'll be doing for the rest of the season. And and so each guys have different clearly affecting everything up blown out by the end, collectively it because you guys think about this each guy that got added into the mix. I it was just two of those young players it ended up with five of them. So each time they added the guy what the Lakers did collectively devalue all of them. Yes. So now precision when it doesn't happen. These guys are sitting there Kennedy guy like LeBron James saying, you know, my life is completely upside down now, and it's going to be this summer because you showed up and the natural chemistry that you need to have with your teammates. And particularly a guy like that. That's that's so dominant on the court at dictated, so many ways what your night is going to be like to go out there and not feel that's unity. Then you need to win. It's going to be very difficult thing for them to pull off. So they they look like. Like, I said they picked those up last night, and they played really well, east guy's gonna be different. The one thing I will say crews MMA, Josh heart, like those guys they play with such a mountain and energy and a love for the game. They're going to be okay. The guy out worried about his Brandon Ingram. He's looks like he needs to be on antidepressant medication is just not the same guy. And I'm curious to see how the rest of his season goes. But this is a really awkward situation. They all know, LeBron is responsible directly or indirectly directly. He's Rich Paul directly, and by the way, Brian LeBron's the best player in the world. Lebron every single chance he gets in the four years at Cleveland when he came back he dumped three guys year three four five guys in the middle of the season. He got rid of them. He was the GM. That's who he is him everywhere. He goes agreed with that. And so here when he was up, you know, what I everybody was all excited. Out there. Reality starts to set is immediately that okay, nobody in this locker has any sense to like the attire foundation. All this is shaken earthquake. And now have no idea exactly what it's going to mean for you. And this has been going on for a while. But now, obviously comes to a head of the trade deadline and the worst scenario imaginable for the brand James. Although in these players that this didn't happen. So go up every day. And you're talking about guys that the only way that they can get through this and even play something that looks like five hundred basketball, which by the way might not get in. If they only five hundred basketball is the fact that they're young loves to play. But there is no emotional investment in the Lakers anymore guys. And that's where the problem comes in trying to compete as a pro going out there with guys that you don't wanna skit on the floor. That's a real problem for them. And I guess that I think probably eighteen and ten to guarantee they get in and they're scheduled it got sixteen teams on schedule currently playoff teams or I think will the playoffs. Lakers. Very well could find themselves on the outside looking at the end of the world. Don't make the playoffs. I guess to the Bronx be it's one lost year here at the end of his career. He doesn't even get a chance to compete the postseason. It's going to be difficult. I would not be shocked if the K made that less spot, and by the way, the other thing too. He said LeBron is trying to engineer getting rid of Luke Walton, which is why I refer to Luke Walton on PTI every time. I talk about him as the current coach laters because I don't think that's I don't think Luke Walton gets out of the all star break. I don't what do you think too? Well, tell you what it what has not helped him to things rightfully had to stop in the locker over the couple of players. Whether Luke Walton was writing situation or not on mine is the last thing he needs is anything getting leaked out of that locker that he doesn't have control the situation. So that really bad look that optics for him. Then you follow it up with a full two point loss during during during the trade rivers, right now, let's see what last night does that does that get, you know, get them back in the right direction. We could send them off the bottom line is Luke Walton he's he's Dead Man Walking. Whether it's going to be all-star break at the end of the season whenever it may be. You'd have very difficult time finding anybody that takes that Walton is. Going to be there when they have this final together with whoever LeBron to come play with him. Agreed. So that's that's that's where you still badly for him data Platt with this David Platt was a guy that got hired to coach AT ahead number one pick kind of Europe and a lottery bound team that he could grow with as the first time they head coach. And then overnight we traded for the broad and the message is could you come in and grab a Cup of coffee. And by the way, would you mind winning title this year? I know we were supposed to twenty games things have changed. Now, we Kevin love to and David Platt all the sudden they came off as this job too big for him. And now, that's what the same thing is going to be said about Luke as distinct progress. Let me ask you one other thing. I guess I was going to talk about trades. But they don't really matter. Kevin durant? Why is he so unhappy why he's a great great player? He's got a bunch of rings. And he so unhappy why to me, he's the classic example. Of a really good guy that did everything. Right. And I know Scott Brooks, very very, well, Scott was coaching him at Oklahoma City. We had to long talks about this topic, and he would break down. But Kevin Durant was like to every member of that organization with working accounting euro, ballboy, whoever were how incredibly blessed, but our guy that town to himself that way, he was beloved. He is a guy that is now had to adjust to being hated by a group of people and being a villain for the first time, and he is not comfortable with you could go back to even his first year. He got out there. I watch do interviews and he's getting bleeped out sportscenter. And I'm like, I can't think of one time. Kevin Durant ever got bleeped out an interview in Oklahoma City. And now all of a sudden he still to this day. I think is resentful of the fact that he got beat off vilified the way that he did for joining the great what he brought that onto him. He will. Away. I'm not look I'm not trying to say trying to say he's wrong or right? You're right. You should expect on just trying to Spain. Why his demeanor has changed to the extent that it has now Tony how you said it. I think there's a lot of city said at that press conference that actually makes sense to me. And I think the biggest thing is when he is now just trying to play off this and win another title with this team to to have people write pieces as if in some way, keep they know exactly what is inside of his mind, and where he's going to be they write pieces as if it's already taken place. You know, his his feeling is you guys are trying to get so far out ahead of the store, you're missing twenty better ones right now. And that's why he was so agitated at the press conference speculation that daily grind being asked the questions just wants to finish out this year. Whatever happens after that happened get why he was so frustrated the other day, but his overall demeanor that started. When I left agree with that. I'm gonna tell you this. You don't like he doesn't like being this guy. And he's trying to now that to it and fight back. It picked his battles. And it doesn't really suit because it really looked to me. Like, that's what he is would inter-court that's really whatever Durant about, but he's forced into this corner. And this is his reaction to it. I grew up in New York and the only tougher place on athletes in New York is Philadelphia. And if he ends up in New York playing for that owner who's a complete bozo with team that really has it's going to be totally dependent on him for a year or so he's going to get killed. He's gonna hate it too. He's gonna hate. I completely one hundred percent agree with that. And thing is, you know, coming and look at knows these guys have conversations, I don't know what what's in the works already. What? To what extent he has talked corre-? You know, all you hear all the rumors the same ones we all hear Anthony Davis. Put the Knicks on his list of. I signed their wild. Would you do that? Unless you know for a fact that someone's going to McLane with a couple other stars, otherwise you're in New York, and you're winning at a lower rate that you were in New Orleans, but you're going to deal with all this. So to me who knows what's in the works. But I do know that you're talking about we're gonna say shin that absolutely cannot get out on way. And Kevin Durant gonna be signing up for that. If that's where he ends up and dealing with this media award on a daily basis, much greater extent than anything. He's dealt with in his life. And it's something you need to carefully. Consider. What did you to have you on? Thank you so much today. My pleasure. I enjoy when you go to the screen touchscreen. And he become a mad scientist. That's very good. Thanks him. Thank you take care to Mugler. Very darn good. Don't you think? Always watched him a lot this morning. It is it's. I think that all athletes are stupid, and he's not stupid. 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Jackie Robinson, could flood and front Robinson. And number five. Just in case anyone out. There was wondering for you. It's Blake trying would try early serving to the NBA a Mr Tony will get the trades in a second. But it for reeling contest last night between the Lakers and the Celtics regime Rondo was in the right spot at the right time. As the buzzer. Sounded the Lakers win one twenty nine one twenty eight terrific game. There's two things to be said about Rhonda one is it. He never shoots. He does not shoot. So he didn't want to have to do that last night. And to is that he played in the Boston Garden a lot or whatever they call that thing. Now TV American or something like that he wanted championship there. He was on that team. He's one of the guys that hates rayon as much as the other guys eight Ray Allen, right? Yes. Right. So that's a big deal. Rajon Rondo began LeBron James twenty eight twelve and twelve LeBron James taking a little bit of responsibility for for basically trying to trait tire. Not Rondo he never wants to get rid of Rondo on ice. Yeah. The bull just sort of popped out. And he was just in the right spot at the right kind of loose ball game whenever wonderland. Yes. So whether any of the you took a little bit of the trades with legs. Really I'll mention a few the top of the east the top of the east has has gotten better other than Boston. Boston made no particular move Nico. Mitch went to the bucks. He's a really good shooter bucks. A really good. I know you don't know this unless you're real fan. They've got the best record in basketball. They've got it right now. And they just got better because they added a three point shooter, and a tough guy Marcus all went to the raptors that makes them a lot better for Marcus thirty five years old, but he's a mole time all-star. And they're better right now in the other day Tobias Harris, which is sold off dropped by the clippers. And he went to the Sixers and the Sixers also got better internally because they got rid of Marquel? Foltz Orlando, right? Yeah. It didn't matter where they sent him for his career. He had to go and for their stability. He had to go. He was he's. And local for us. He's the math. I don't know how good or bad. He is. But I know that can't play now. Like, he's a mess. Not only not only can't he play. But he don't wanna be out there and shoot the ball. And he's got tremendous issues with Irv stuff. Say complete mess. I think we all hope he does well in Orlando. But nobody thought that it would be good in Philadelphia. They had to get rid of him. That's that's a win win for Markelle fulls and Philadelphia because you can't have them hanging around. He's overall number one pick and he can't play here. Get on your squad. Right. So you had to move in the Eastern Conference guess who got worse as these? Better was that's that's why tickets. Not. So I took it. Yes. One person who's not going to be playing basketball in the near future. Is Pat Mahomes. This is after some video. Yeah. Right. Get receives general manager Bret VH like it's great that you're out there breaking ankles. But let's make sure you don't break your own you. He's twenty three years old. He's played in the league as a regular one year in easy MVP. He can't hang glide. He can't rock now motorcycle riding long boards. Due Kingston option. Seir more than two hours from the coast. Right nothing. You're gonna get hurt get hurt and football too. Yeah. Dallas is going to Dallas football club is going to have a new coach. This is weird. Not the Cowboys still unnamed franchise from the XFL, which is still two years away at two thousand twenty right? Yeah. Here's ever happens, which doubt both send other league if the if the because that's this week if that does well. If that goes well XFL's remember to talk to Brian about that on Monday. Bob stoops has been named believable. I mean, he's out of home for two years. What do we make this? He could I don't know. Like you. I don't like him. But they gave us really good. And this is so odd. Yeah. Because it could go coach and Conan's, right? Has absolutely would think I mean have you heard of him turning down offers or? I think people thought that he actually retired. If if you see knew he was valuable they wouldn't have offered him everything when thank guy look at a job in the XFL or the f- potential conduit as a D league for an NFL, John all Bob stoops husker dentures to get an NFL. No, no. I think that he had nothing to do this retirement thing stinks. I'll take a part time restaurant podcast. And this is an on Bryant situation where people don't want him. No, he's not guilty of essentially, condoning, sexual assault. No, yes. No to Gulf, Mr Tony AT and T O the loud mouth. That's all. But he's right. Is the eighteen de I watched some of this last night. I did. Yes. Yeah. I mean, not everybody was being shown because not everybody's playing pebble the hardest thing for someone like me is I'm I'm interested in the other courses. So I wanna I wanna see Monterey peninsula. And this is a shadow to Mike strand. His daughter my experience design, the short course, Monterey peninsula, his daughter, a broad in some artwork that he had done including the very famous nine poll. This was about a year ago. So so thank you to her. And you're just reminded how beautiful this pocket of the world is and you can't stop watching it this time you're out east. So so you we Lewis. Former rock and roll star. Love apparently. But but involved in other sort of interesting things, I think because I was listening to it. I just forgot what they were. So he chips in eighteen. He's eating one of the most awkward two minutes stretches on broadcast sporting TV with Nick Faldo trying to work in every single. Huey Lewis line. They played together like in the program. So you Louis Tipton on eighteen which reminded me the one time that I play Pebble Beach, which by the way, you can all play it. It's money that's all time around and you'd be prepared to spend a lot of time out there because everyone in front taking picture and how much these days maybe three ninety five around. But but one way I play once save up save up. It got to do it on eighteen. I was in my pocket I had to into water on eighteen and I just I never finished. In pockets memory do on eighteen I believe, I three-putted. It's a it's a tricky green. What you can't see on its I three putted for bogey. Yeah. So at that point, I was pulling an alum view where I just wanted to get out of just a six hour round. I was it takes a long time. But you do it again. It's simply money so save up. So don't do don't do a couple of things you wanted to save up. So anyway, well, some difficult times for Jill Abramson autumn. Former executive editor for the New York Times has a new book out called the merchants of truth now considered a little bit less than truthful by some critics. Yes, as she said some pages numbers and sourcing notes need to be fixed and some sources should have been cited as quotations slammed. Yeah. I that's her comeback g got slave were they had parallel paragraphs from the New Yorker from other places and from Jill Abramson spoke, and they were. Remarkably similar? I mean, there was no walking away from that charge of plagiarism. So when I worked at the New York Times, I don't think I never met her. I don't know her. I have never met her. But I will say this. Plagiarism is looked at I think differently by writers. And editors I mean, I really do. I can see if you're writing a book, not not so much. If you're writing a story, I think if you're writing a story, you know, when you're piping, you know, when you're plagiarizing, you know, when you're being unduly influenced by stuff that you have read because the story isn't that long? You writing that that day or maybe two days three days at the most of its big story. You know, what you're doing that? In a book you're coming back to it. There's months there's years involved in this. I think it's possible as a writer, and I'm just saying this for myself as writer tina's both right around and editor. So I'm interested to see what she says. But I think it's possible that stuff you read it it disappears into the back recesses of your brain. It becomes imprinted on your brain. It's phrases you call them up as you're sitting there writing them. It's I think a lot of cases it's not intentional plagiarism. Now, it's word for word. And you'd sitting there copying it. It's different. But I I'm going to I'm going to air on the side of the writer in this thinking that it is reasonable in the way that I've memorized rock and roll songs over my life that I might have read something months ago years ago that really stuck with me, and it's in my brain. And I've forgotten that it was somebody else's words air more forgiving than I'd. Here's a moment when you cut and paste, which this really looked like, and when you do that you have to if you're experienced journalists as she is. I mean, she was Washington bureau chief executive editor at the New York Times there is that he's got to be on the lookout for people who do this. Oh, there's that moment. And was there when Jason Blair was inventing stories. There's that moment when you cut and paste where any organized book, author will go, okay citation here. And she has a lot of citations in the book. Yes. But there were I saw five clear examples of paragraphs that were way way too close to each other. The one thing about plagiarism. There's always bothered me. Is that somebody said well, you wrote that before I wrote that. Right. That again don't have to site that I wrote that so outsiders take on this will resolve itself because at sixty four years old with her career, you don't decide to start plagiarizing. So everyone now is going to scour everything she's ever written. I realized she was an editor. But she's also written other things and just my opinion won't speak for you guys. But there will be other instances of this that will turn up. It's just I agree with Jean. I think you're being a little soft on these things are Begum pulls from some stuff, including like blog post that people had written or even New Yorker, which would be sell easy has wiggle room. In the sense that she did have an assistant researcher who she thanked very much for all of the work that he had done is possible that still you're now, and with modern technology. It's so much easier to pull that whether you're a great, whether you're just copying and pasting quotes that you want to catalog say. In a separate document. This is really this is a terrible example for kids to see just because there's so much confusion as to what actually pushes something over the edge from say echoing phrased to what constitutes direct plagiarism. And there's something different in a writer should know this when you're copying the structure and cadence of someone else's groupings of sentences, and it's the echo of the phrase. I think you're correct that stays with you and some of the language around that. But it's the direct ordering of those thoughts and how they are going to assemble within that paragraph when I was writing the Washington Post and at the New York Times, and Newsday people stole my stuff that this is what happens member that one. I called him. Yeah. And there are their names. I want to answer I will name Philadelphia Inquirer person or Miami Herald. Anything internet? But in those days, you only find out that people stole it if you actually physically picked up their newspaper somewhere down the road right now, you can find out in an eight now. It's like right when I called was in a national magazine. So that when landed in our lab, yes. So this. And you're angry when they steal your stuff. But you have been proud proud to steal. What else I've got Mr. breeze in sweatshop on? Yeah. I had it story said another story. I wanted to share forget breeze around going anywhere. This team. Yeah. Well, you know, you very courageous what he's doing at great personal embarrassment. Very very and use. And by the way, just to be clear. He would have brought that on himself. The figures like he didn't go to an artist studio to get these bans dot, right? And that's my mother once said, there's no fool like an old fool. So that's relevant there too. But the other day you were criticizing basis because he would not allow himself to be quoted in along. But in his mind clearly today, it made so much sense to me because he wasn't weaponising his newspaper. He was going to somebody else and not using the Washington that plan Harry, his daughter out website. Yes. It's a big deal story. Jeff Bezos is accusing the National Enquirer of extortion saying that I'm printing the different screen extortion. Being you're trying to take get money from someone say we're trying to get him to sort of. Right right from stores. It's very interesting at the heart of it. Of course. The sexy part is the nude pictures, which appears, unfortunately, we're going to be forced to see we're going to see them, and it's not going to be. It's not going to be pretty it's kinda wanna to that. Right. Someone's going to intercut them with video his laugh. It's going to be a terrible. He'll never outrun that he's standing up for something noble. But he and up for something before I have to think that his new girlfriend is on dateable. Oh, yeah. Don't you think? I mean, if it's rather that. Yeah. You asked at one point. I remember asking is she worth sixty seven billion dollars. We're gonna find out that the answer is no pro. We've got the answer is going to being. Yes, What's hard to? This is just feel good story. Mrs. It's eat that. Yes. It's about a cat named fluffy. Okay. Can't fly. The see cats. No teeth fluffy is a native of Montana, specifically town of called Kelly spell and as described as Calisto. Okay. More bell. Right. And at the end of January, obviously with the polar vortex temperatures dropping rapidly and fluffy who is described as a usually confident outdoor cat got into some trouble got a little bit injury. And was not able to get back into her house. Martha I'm gonna well. Yeah. But you know. Joel thing out. So this is a pitch of the people of news channel eight this is how owners founder right, and it looks like she's coming in cutting bowls snow and ice data chance that she will be revived believe fluffy is used up not just older nine lives, but Ted Williams' head situation. They were they use warm water heating pads towels, and they said with an hour the vet said she started grumbling at us. Oh, that's is. This is a picture of fluffy alive, and well and no longer outdoor cat. I'm not a cat. I I know, you know. Heartwarming just in time for candidates should not be outdoor cats. Okay. They should be indoor cats. What about Tigers? What about Tigers and lions? Well, there's frame but fairly has one because they're predators because they kill half of the songbirds in America. When I had that little car. I had a feral cat that slept on the roof for the little car on the canvas roof with a little car and left its droppings all the all the time. I would have happily would have have gotten rid of that cat. All right. We'll take a break. We'll come back guy radio. Yes. When we return on Sony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show county. Guy radio from the day. Handbags and glad rags. Rod Stewart throughout Stewart version. That's also was wasn't this one of the Ricky Gervais show the office British the good office. That's like saying New York style pizza. It's how. Yeah. And I know people like Steve Carell office. And I'm saying it's good though. I never saw a single episode. I'm sure it's good but eight Ricky to nature Ricky. So why are we playing this for no reason other than it's just a great song? We've noted latest in a while originally written in nineteen sixty seven by Mike stop who was in lead singer for Manfred Mann, Dabo Swinney now number Sweeney. No and first releases a single by gun. Chris follow familiar with his work. And then about a couple of years later road. Stuart coveted this become the definitive version. This is fantastic. It's just grow in shirt song over voices in rock and roll are unmistakable voices. Rod Stewart has one of them. Bob, Seger has one of them. They're not dealing. I mean, the bunch, you know, great Rod Stewart still performing a believe. So as Paul Simon has said, I'm done Elton. John has said I'm done. Rod Stewart, probably seventy seventy one guessing. Short seventy four seventy four. I think he didn't do a fair. Welcome jolt when I was out in John. I thought who had recently announced a farewell coming. Okay. But that's it. Okay. Right. That's it road suet just released an album less timber his thirtieth studio album blood red roses. That's let me get let me get to a couple of things here. I won't even deal with this one that rod Stewart's seventy four his wife penny. Lancaster forty-seven original wife. I can guarantee up sure. A one one more time into the fray in Virginia. This just raise your hand. If you haven't all three damaged all surely should go. Nobody's going and the reason they're not going because there's three and nobody's going to say. Well, I know you go first, and I think they're going to, gene. I don't think any of them are going. Well, now, a Republican has stepped into the fray and said and said I was the editor of the via my yearbook he was outed. I don't think he I don't think he's. I think just the picture in town. This is a different year. It'd be sixty eight Sergey north of college. This is Thomas Norman whose Republican would see the state state Senator majority leader. Okay, major. So he says I was editor of the via Mike your book and the via my yearbook contained guess what? People in black face really and racist slurs a couple of the photos that are in the now. Now, he says he's not in any of the photos, and he's oversaw booty. But he was the editor you got to take the hit on that. I had dinner that common. I was nineteen sixty eight with my high school friends on Wednesday night. So we roll in high school in the six did you ask yourselves if any of you wore Klan robes in any this was in the sixties? None of us. Remember ever seeing anybody in black phase in a school play in? A grade school play nothing. What what the heck was going on in Virginia. I mean, it's just a river bridge away from us. Well, Virginia is sell Stoorikhel. That's the capital of the confederacy, and it was different maybe different attitudes. And maybe they took a long far longer time to to end ended yet. I don't know. Would you would you quit if you were any of the three he? Yeah. Do quick him. They're not going to quit now. Now, it's now a coalition there. They're the three musketeers exactly they're not going anywhere most guilty. You gotta most guilty. I dunno. I taught so many different crimes. I would give him stupidest. But. Yeah. And wanting to walk except to have hers vice intervention that. It's fairfax. If true is horrible. I mean, it's should be no doubt that that's true. Right. Well, no doubt at all. There. Also should be you also should be able to say that it's possible. He had he walked out of that thing thinking, well, you know, I didn't doing if her acusations. I don't mean if it occurred. I mean, if it if it occurred as she says it I think he did. Well, what what do I know? But north is there in black and white, okay? The other thing can in a matter matter speaking, the other thing can be adjudicated somehow. And then you know, whatever you think may have happened. It's going to be interesting to me the people on a certain side of the aisle defended a certain supreme court Justice of a similar allegation. I think they're going to attack this guy because he's on the other side of the I think the roles will be reversed in this particular thing. So anyway, so we want we mentioned that only because Virginia Florida posing Florida Virginia. Just the most fun baseball JT real Muto catcher on the Miami Marlins. Or was the catcher that had the nets acquired him last year. I think that's might have made the playoffs. I think he was a difference maker. He is now going to the Phillies. I don't know what that means for Bryce Harper. But it gets me to talk about Harper Machado, but mostly Harper. It means one of those players more likely to go to the Phillies. Yeah. That's what I think too. But what? What if there's no what Scott Boris miscalculated? What if the best offer out there for Bryce Harper is the NATs offer on the table that's been out there for months? What happens then what do you? I think most people in Washington believed that Bryce Harper will play somewhere else. I am totally convinced that the nationals as a group have fought since the end of last season. He was going to go and play somewhere else. They did. They do not did not do not expect him to return. But what do you think the door is still open timing? I think Scott Boris and the learners have a relationship that has been good that has been good. And there might be posturing on both sides. Let's see what price can get elsewhere. But I I still think it's possible for him to come back. I will say I heard on. I can mention local stations. Right. You don't care. It was on radio grant, Danny show on one. Oh, six seven the fan. I should give them proper because we're talking about they went over the the recent largest contracts in baseball. And with the exception of max years, there isn't a single one of them that you would consider doing again and not like these teams look at the zoned out, right? But but things like three and a three hundred twenty five million to Giancarlo Stanton. I mean, it's like no one's doing that. Again. Even the pool halls the money as much as the the money, right? Locked in for so long that at the end of it. It's like John wall in the forty three million dollars come on which is based on where we are in the calendar. The nets may be at Eddie better position to retain Bryce Harper or Bryce Harper goes back to bores and says we have to reevaluate the board, and we're going shorter term betting on our selves and seeing if the market returns to what we think it should we're years one hundred million dollars fourth year with the club options. And you're still you're still technically prime. Yeah. Put it in. Of course, you, but when you're when you never thought he would take that. We ain't guy who forget three months ago. I guess maybe it was ten months ago the beginning at the beginning of last season. When people were talking about me, the natch should offer ten years four hundred million now and get it done when he got off to that. Let's an enormous it isn't. But when you when you when you were thinking to one hundred and fifty three hundred forget it, whether it's million thousand hundred thousand whatever when you're talking when you're thinking you're to fifty or three and someone's telling you your worth one or you're going to get one that's a tough pill to the stock market is like the real estate market. It's like the art market it has its highest. And it's changes. This is not collusion. This is not the owner saying we're not going to do this. This is every owner saying that I wouldn't. I'm scared. I wanna say I don't know that I would agree that that's statement is one hundred percent true. Do you think? Do you think it's it's confusing? Give him this money. I wouldn't give him this money. I don't know how much money we're talking about. I can tie the logger hundred mil. No, no, no. Wouldn't do that? Put but but never works three hundred million offered over to longer. This goes the more readily apparent is that one is going to go and five minutes later. The other words, I mean, they've got all lined up and ready to go. I mean, if you want to make the case for collusion, you would have to what would you do with the NATs offer for three hundred million dollars over ten. What would that that's that's the heart? Of course. That's that is prime face. She evidence of no collusion. I'm not suggesting there is I lose it. I'm just saying I wouldn't say it's hard to say with one hundred percents certainty there is I mean, there's collusion over Colin capital. Yeah. I don't I would I would returned earners comments though, about two and a half three months ago. He said this was the best offer we could come up with as setting a ceiling for the market that the markets basically trying to say if we're not gonna have the NATs trying to raise this up. Why are we going to put a number down to lay stake to who we think he? As a as a player and a commodity because we don't have to they're already out of this everyone. Agreed. That Bryce Harper's thing. Think he's mad with Scott. He's mad with his agent. You led me down a bad path? I was promised something. I saw guys like Jason worth who were my mentors getting these outrageous deals, and this is what I was promised timing. I mean, it's just like you would just like you would be mad at your real estate agent. But, but if your house was listed, two months later than you thought, it was going to be a could cost you a lot of money everyone. Agreed when when the learners made that offer that appeared there was a little bit of a hometown discount built in based on whatever thought the market. Boris inflate the Mark market in what they thought. Right. No tremendous. So we will have jingle in some Email when we return I'm telling Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Tony went to. He got a. Dolder? Sports. You see now he's getting no. 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Or does every NBA analyst mentioned about fifteen guys top five players in the league. Also, it seems that every NCAA division. One school has three players who are going to play in the NBA. I know the universe is expanding that might have something to do with him from gusts in south glens falls. I was minding my own business. Listen to your post Super Bowl pod. With Michael spoke. These words Alexa, play beat bugs help. Now. My kids are nearing thirty years young. So I have no clue what beat bugs work. But when Alexa heard Michael she instantly responded by television came alive and beat bugs was immediately on the screen. I'm not sure what uncertainly more show about a bunch of insects of the fact that Michael apparently able to control my household appliances. The podcast, please don't do that again from Dr Chris Stevens on the other day. You said the wilbon what if balm or have lost his tech company? 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Season 1 Interlude: The Colour Out of Space

The Stephen King Boo! Club

1:20:46 hr | 1 year ago

Season 1 Interlude: The Colour Out of Space

"Hey y'all this is Steven No regular episode for this week. We are kicking off season two next week. With the Tommy knockers. Part one for now we wanted to give you something a little bit different this is going to be a reading of HP lovecraft S- The colour out of space. The reason we are doing this reading this week is that it was a major influence on Stephen King. When he was writing the Tommy knockers? So there's that and the other thing is that it's the subject of Phoenix's needful theme segment for part one so we wanted to give you a little bit of context there and also it's a fun story so sit back relax and enjoy the color out of space by HP lovecraft it west of Arkham the hills rise wild and there are valleys with deep woods. That no acts has ever cut. There are narrow Glenn's where the trees slope fantastically and were thin brook. Let's trickle without ever. Having caught the glint of sunlight on the gentler slopes there are farms ancient and rocky with squat. Moscow did cottages brooding eternally over old New England secrets in the Lee of of great ledges. But these are all vacant now. The wide chimneys crumbling and the shingles sides bulging perilously beneath low gambro roofs. The old folk have gone away and foreigners do not like to live their French Canadians. Tried it Italians have tried it. And the polls have common departed. It is not because of anything that can be seen or heard or handled but because of something that is imagined the the place is not good for the imagination and does not bring restful dreams at night it must be this which keeps the foreigners away for old Ammi Pierce has never told them of anything he recalls from strange days and me whose head has been a little queer for years is the only one still remains or whoever talks of the strange days and he dares to do this because his house is so near the open fields fields and the traveled roads around Arkham there was once a road over the hills and through the valleys that ran straight where the blasted lasted heath is now the people cease to use it and a new road was laid curving far toward the south traces of the old one can can still be found amidst the weeds of returning wilderness and some of them will doubtless linger even when half the hollows are flooded for the new reservoir then the dark woods will be cut down and the blasted heath will slumber far below blue waters who surface will mirror the sky and ripple in the sun and the secrets secrets of those strange days will be one with the deeps secrets one with the hidden lore of old ocean and all the mystery of primal earth breath when I went into the hills and Vales to survey for the new reservoir. They told me the place was evil. They you told me this in Arkham and because that is a very old town full of which legends I thought the evil must be something which grandparents had whispered to children through centuries injuries the name blasted heath seemed to me very odd and theatrical. And I wondered how it had come into the folklore of a puritan people then then I saw that dark westwood tangle of Glens and slopes for myself and ceased to wonder at anything besides its own elder mystery it was morning when I saw it but shadow lurked always there. The trees grew too thickly and their trunks. Were too who big for any healthy New England would there was too much silence in the dim alleys between them and the floor was too soft with the Dank thank moss and meetings of infinite years of decay in the open spaces mostly along the line of the old road. There were little hillside farms arms sometimes with all the building standing sometimes with only one or two and sometimes with only alone chimney or fast filling seller weeds and Breyer's rained and furtive wild things Russell than the undergrowth upon everything was a haze of restlessness depression. Depression a touch of the unreal and the grotesque as if some vital element of prospective or Carascalao were awry. I did did not wonder that the foreigners would not stay for this was no region to sleeping. It was too much like a landscape of Salvator Rosa. Too much like some forbidden woodcut in a tale of terror but even all this was not so bad as the blasted heath. I knew at the moment I came upon it. At the bottom of a spacious valley for no other name could fit such a thing or any other thing fit such a name. It was as if the poet had coined the phrase from having seen this one particular region it must I thought as I viewed it be the outcome of a fire but why had nothing new ever grown over these five acres of grey desolation that sprawled open to the sky like a great spot eaten by acid in the woods and fields it lay largely to the north of the ancient road line but encroached a little on either side died. I felt an odd reluctance about approaching and did so at last only because my business took me through and passed it. There was no vegetation of any kind on that product spent but only a fine grey dust or ash which no wind seemed effort to blow about the trees near it were sickly and stunted and many dead trunks stood or lay rotting at the rim as I walked hurriedly really by I saw the tumbled bricks and stones of an old chimney and seller on my right and the yawning black Mauve and abandoned well who stagnant into vapors played strange tricks with the Hughes of the sunlight. Even the long dark woodland climb beyond seemed welcome in contrast and I marveled no more. At the frightening whispers of Arkham people there had been no house or ruined near even in the old days. The place must've been lonely and remote and EH twilight dreading to re pass that ominous spot. I walked circuitously back to town by the curving road on the south. I vaguely Egli wished. Some clouds would gather for an odd timidity about the deeps guide voids above crept into my soul. In the evening. I asked old people in Arkham about the blasted heath and what was meant by that phrase strange days which so many evasively muttered. I could not however get any good answers except that all the mystery was much more recent than I had dreamed of. It was not a matter matter of old legendary at all but something within the lifetime of those who spoke it had happened in the eighties and a family had disappeared or was killed. Speakers would not be exact and because they all told me to pay no attention to old. Ame- pierces crazy tales. I saw him out the next next morning. Having heard that he lived alone in the ancient tottering cottage with the trees. I began to get very thick. It was a fearsomely archaic workplace and had begun to exude the Faint Asmal odor which clings about houses that have stood too long only with persistent knocking. Could I rouse the aged man. And when he shuffled timidly to the door I could tell he was not glad to see me. He was not so feeble as I had expected but his eyes is drooped in a curious way and is unkempt clothing and white beard made him seem very warn dismal not knowing just how he could best be launched on his tales. I find a matter of business told them of my surveying and asked vague questions about the district. He was far brighter and more educated than I had been led to think and before I knew it I had grasped as much of the subject is any man I had talked with an Arkham he was not like other Russ sticks. I had known in the sections where reservoirs were to be from him. There were no protests at the miles miles of old wood and farm land to be blotted out though perhaps there would have been had not his home lane outside the balance of the future lake. Relief Leaf was all that he showed relief at the doom of the dark. Ancient Bow is through which he had roamed all his life. They were better underwater now. Better underwater since the strange days and with this opening his husky voice sank low while his body leaned forward and and his right forefinger began to point shakily and impressively. It was then that I heard the story. And as the rambling voice scraped and whispered on I shivered again and again. Despite the summer day often I had to recall the speaker from ramblings peace peace out scientific points which he knew only by Fading Parrot Memory of professors talk or bridge over gaps where his sense of logic and continuity broke down. When he was done I did not wonder that his mind had snapped? Trifle or that. The folk of arkham would not speak much of the blasted heath. I heard back before sunset to my hotel unwilling to have the stars come out above me in the open and the next day they returned to Boston to give up my position I could not go into that. Dim Chaos of old forest and slope again or face another time that that gray blasted Heath with the Blackwell Yon deep beside the tumbled bricks and stones. The reservoir will soon be built now and all. All those elder secrets will be safe forever under watery fathoms. But even then I do not believe I would like to visit that country by night at least not when the sinister stars are out and nothing could bribe me to drink the new city water of Arkham it all began a me. He said with the meteorite before that time there had been no wild legends at all since the witch trials and even then these western woods. We're not feared half have so much as the small island in the Mrkomjic with the devil held court beside a curious stone altar older than the Indians. These were not haunted woods and they're fantastic. Dust was never terrible till the strange days then there had come that white noon tide cloud that string of explosions things in the air and that pillar of smoke from the valley far in the wood. And by night all Arkham had heard of the giant rock that fell out the sky embedded itself in the ground beside the well at the not whom Gardiner place that was the house which had stood with the blasted heath was to become the trim white. Now whom Gardner House amidst it's fertile gardens and orchards. Now whom had come to town to tell people people about the stone and had dropped in at Emi Pierces on the way a me was forty then and all the queer things were fixed very strange way in his mind he and his wife and gone with the three professors from Mr Tonic University. Who hastened out the next morning to see the weird visitor from unknown stellar space and had wondered wonder why now whom had called it so large the day before it had shrunk no whom said as he pointed out the big brownish mound above the ripped earth earth and Chart Grass near the archaic? Well sweep in his front yard. But the wise men answered that stones not shrink its heat lingered persistently and now whom declared it had glowed faintly in the night. The professors tried it with the geologist's hammer and found. It was oddly soft. It was in truth so soft as to be almost plastic and they gouge rather than chipped a specimen to take back to the college for testing. They they took it in an old Pale borrowed from not. WHO's kitchen for? Even the small piece refused to grow cool on the trip back. They stopped at AMIS to arrest and seemed thoughtful when Mrs Pearce remarked that the fragment was growing smaller and burning the bottom of the Pale truly it was not large but perhaps perhaps they had taken less than they thought the day after that all of this was in June of eighty two. The professors had trooped out again integrate excitement as they passed as they told him what queer things the specimen had done as they passed amis they told him what what queer things the specimen had done and how it had faded holy away when they put it in the glass beaker. The PEKAR had gone to and the wise men talked of the strange gene stones affinity for silicon. It had acted quite unbelievably in that. Well ordered laboratory doing nothing at all and showing no included gases asses when heated on charcoal being wholly negative and the Borax bead and soon proving itself absolutely non vital at any producible temperature including combat of the oxy hydrogen blowpipe on the anvil it appeared highly malleable. And in the dark its luminosity was ferry marked stubbornly refusing to grow cold. It soon had the college in the state of real excitement. And when upon heating before the spectra scope it displayed shining bands unlike any any known colors of the normal spectrum there was much breathless talk of new elements bizarre optical properties. Another things which puzzled men of science are want want to say when faced by the unknown hot as it was they tested it in a crucible. With all the proper reagents water did nothing hydrochloric. Acid was the same nitric acid and even awkward reja merely his and spattered against its Torrid invulnerability ability on me had difficulty in recalling all these things but recognized some solvents as I mentioned them in the usual order of us there were or ammonia and caustic soda alcohol and ether nauseous Carbon Di sulfide and a dozen others but although the weight grew steadily less less as time passed and the fragments seemed to be slightly cooling. There was no change in the solvents to show that they had attacked the substance at all it was was a metal though it was a metal though beyond a doubt it was magnetic for one thing and after emerging in the acid solvents there seemed to be faint traces of the Vitamin Staten Figures found on meteoric iron when the cooling had grown very considerable. The testing was carried on in glass. And it wasn't a glass beaker that they left all the chips made of the original fragment during the work the next morning both both chips and beaker were gone without a trace and only charred spot marked the place on the wooden shelf where they had been all all the professors told them me this as they paused at his door and once more he went with them to see this Stony Messenger from the stars though this time his wife did not accompany accompany him it had now most certainly shrunk and even the sober professors could not doubt the truth of what they saw all around the dwindling brown lump near the well was a vacant space except where the Earth had caved in and whereas it had been a good seven feet across the day before it was now scarcely five it was still hot and the sages studied at surface curiously as they detached another and larger peace with hammer and Chisel they couched deeply this time and as they pride away the smaller mass they saw that the core of the thing was not quite homogeneous they had uncovered what seemed to be the sign of a large coloured globule embedded in the substance the color which resembled some some of the bands in the meteors strange spectrum was almost impossible to describe it was only by way of analogy that they called it color at all all its texture was glossy and upon tapping it appeared to promise both Brittleness and Hollowness one of the professors give it a smart blow with a hammer and it burst with nervous little pop nothing was omitted and Dole trace of the thing vanished with the puncturing it left behind hollow hello spherical space about three inches across and all thought it probable that others would be discovered as the inclosing substance wasted away conjecture was vain so after a futile attempt to find additional globules Bhai drilling the seekers left again with their new specimen which proved however as baffling in the laboratory as its predecessor had been assigned from being almost plastic having heat magnetism and slate luminosity minority cooling slightly powerful acids possessing an unknown spectrum wasting away in the air and attacking silicon compounds mutual destructions as a result if presented no identifying features whatsoever and at the end of tests the college scientists were forced to own that they could not place it it it was nothing of this earth but a piece of the great outside and as such dour without side properties into obedient to who outside laws that night there was a thunderstorm and when the professors went out to now who's the next day they met with a bitter disappointment the stone magnetic as it had been must have had some peculiar electrical property for it had drawn the lightning as whom said with a singular persistence six times within our the farmer saw the lightning strike the furrow when the front yard and when the storm was over nothing remained but a ragged pit by the ancient well sweep half choked with caved in earth digging had borne no fruit and the scientists verified the fact of the otter vanish moment. The failure was total so that nothing nothing was left to do but go back to the laboratory and test again the disappearing fragment left carefully cased in lead that fragment lasted a week at at the end of which nothing valuable had been learned of it when it had gone. No residue was left behind and in time. The professors felt scarcely sure they'd indeed seen zenith waking is that cryptic vestige of the fathomless gulfs outside that loan. Weird message from other universes and other realms of Madder adder force an entity as was natural the Arkham papers made much of the incident with its collegiate sponsoring and sent reporters reporters to talk with whom Gardner and his family at least one Boston daily. Also sent a scribe and now whom quickly became a kind of local celebrity. He was a lean genial person of about fifty living with his wife and three sons on the pleasant farmstead in the valley he ended up me exchange visits visit frequently as did their wives and had nothing but praise for him. After all these years he seems slightly proud of the notice his place at attracted and talked often of the meteorite in the succeeding weeks that July and August or hot and now who worked hard his haying and the ten acre pasture across Chapman's brooke his Rattling Wayne wearing deep ruts in the shadowy lanes between the Labor tired him more than it had in other other years and he felt that age was beginning to tell on him then fell the time of fruit and harvest. The pears and an apple slowly ripened now who vowed that his orchards were prospering. Has Never before the fruit was growing phenomenal size and unwanted gloss oss and in such a pundits that extra barrels were ordered to handle the future crop but with the ripening came sore disappointment maintenant for of all that gorgeous ray of specious lushness. Not One single jot was fit to eat into the fine flavor of the pears and apples rose had crept a stealthy bitterness in sickness. So that even the smallest of bites induced a lasting discussed it was the same with with the melons and tomatoes and whom saw sadly that his entire crop was lost. Quick to connect events he declared that the meteorite had poisoned into the soil and thanked heaven that most of the other crops were in the up landlocked along the road. Winter came early and was very cold. Hold me so now. Whom less often than usual and observe that? He had begun to look worried the rest of his family to seem to have grown taciturn and were far from steady in their churchgoing or at their attendance at the various social events in the countryside for this reserve or melancholy no cosby ause could be found. Though all the household confessed now and then to poor health and a feeling of vague disquiet know whom himself gave the most definite statement of anyone when he said he was disturbed about certain footprints in the snow. They were the usual winter prints of red squirrels white rabbits and foxes but the brooding former profess to see something not quite right about their nature and arrangement. He was never specific but appeared to think that they were not as characteristic of the anatomy and habits of squirrels and rabbits and foxes as they ought to be emme listened without interest to this talk until one night when he drove past. Now Hoon's house in his sleigh on the way back from clarks corners there had been a moon and a rabbit had run across the road. And the weeps of that rabbit were longer than either me or his horse liked the latter indeed had almost run away when brought up by a firm rain thereafter emmy gave now whom sales more respect and wondered why the Gardner in her dog seemed so cowed and quivering. Every morning they had it developed nearly lost the spirit to bark in February. The McGregor boys from Meadow Hill outshooting woodchucks and not far from the Gardner. Place bagged a very peculiar specimen. The proportions of its body seemed slightly altered in a queer way impossible to describe while its face had taken on an expression which no no one ever saw in a woodchuck before the boys were genuinely frightened and through the thing away at once so that only their grotesque tales of it ever reached the people of the countryside side but the shying horses near not whose house had now become an acknowledged thing and all the basics for a cycle of whispered legend and was fast taking form. People vowed the snow melted faster around now homes and it did anywhere else and early. In March there was an on discussion in Potter's general store at clarks corners. Stephen Rice had driven passed gardeners in the morning and had noticed these skunk cabbages coming up through the mud by would decrease the road. Never were things of such size seen before and they held strange colors. That could not be put into any words Their shapes were monstrous and the horse had snorted at an odor which struck Stephen as wholly unprecedented that afternoon noon. Several persons drove pass to see the abnormal growth and all agreed that plants of that kind ought never to sprout in a healthy world. The bad fruit of the fall before with really mentioned and it went from mouth to mouth that there was poison and now homes ground. Of course it was the meteorite and remembering how strange the men from the college had found that stone to be. Several farmers spoke about the matter to them. One day they paid now whom visit but having I know love of wild tales and folklore. We're very conservative. In what they inferred. Plants were certainly odd but all skunk cabbages or more or less often shape an odor and hugh perhaps some mineral element from the stone had entered the soil but it would soon be washed away and as for the footprints and frightened right and horses and of course this was mere country talk with such a phenomenon as the area light would be certain to start. There was really nothing for serious serious. Meant to do in cases of wild gossip for superstitious rustic will say and believe anything and so through the strange days the professors I stayed away in contempt. Only one of them. When given to files of dust for analysis in a police job over a year and a half later recalled that the queer color of that skunk cabbage had been very like one of the anomalous bands of light shown by the media fragment in the college spectra scope and and like the British will gobble found embedded in the stone from the abyss? The samples in this analysis case gave the same on bands at first though later later they lost their property the trees bundled prematurely around now. Hoon's and at night they swayed ominously the wind. Now whom second. Son Fatty is a lad of fifteen swore that they swayed also when there was no wind. But even the gossips would not credit this certainly however restlessness was in the air. The entire Gardner family developed the habit of stealthy listening. I'm not for any sound which they consciously name. The listening was indeed rather a product of moments when consciousness seemed half to slip away. Unfortunately such moments increased week by week till it became common speech that something was wrong with all of whom spoke when the early Sachse exa fridge came out it had another strange color. Not Quite like that of the skunk cabbage but plainly related and equally unknown to anyone whose side now whom took some blossoms to Arkham and showed them to the editor of the gazette but that dignitary did no more than a humorous article about them in which the dark fears of Rustic were were held up too polite ridicule. It was a mistake of now. Whom this town with Stolid city man about the way? The great overgrown mourning cloak butterflies. Flies behaved in connection with these sachse. Fridges April brought a kind of madness to the country folk and began end disuse of the road past now who's which led to its ultimate abandonment. It was the vegetation. All the orchard. Trees blossomed forth in in strange colors and through the stony soil of the yard and adjacent past Ridge. There sprang up a bizarre growth which only a botanist could connect connect with the proper floor of the region. No sane wholesome colors were anywhere to be seen except in the green grass and leakage everywhere those hectic hectic and press matic variants of some diseased underlying primary tone without a place among them the known tint of the Earth the Dutchman's Richmond's breaches became a thing of sinister menace and the blood roots grew insolent in the chromatic perversion. Me and the gardeners thought that most of the colors had sort of hunting familiarity and decided that they reminded one of the Brittle Globule in the media. You're not whom plow and so the ten acre pasture and the land lot but did nothing with the land around the house he knew it would be of no use and hope that the summers strange growths withdrawal for all the poison from the soil. He was prepared for almost anything now at had grown used to the sense of something near him waiting to be heard the shunning of his house by neighbors told on him of course but it told on his wife more. The boys were better off being at school each day but they could not help help being frightened by the gossip Thaddeus and especially sensitive youth suffered the most in May the insects sex came and now who's place became a nightmare of buzzing and crawling. Most of the insects seemed not quite usual in their aspects. It's in motions. And Their Nocturnal habits contradicted all former experience. The gardeners took to watching at night watching in all directions at random for something something they could not tell what it was then they all owned. That thaddeus had been right about the trees. Mrs Gardiner was the next to see it from the window window. As she watched the swollen bows of maple against a moonlight sky Bow Shirley moved and there was no wind it. It must be the SAP. Strangeness had come into Everything Growing now. It was none of my family at all who made the next discovery. Familiarity had doled them and what they could not see glimpsed by timid windmill salesman from Bolton who drove by one night in ignorance of the country. Legends what he told an Arkham was given short paragraph into gazette and it was there that all the farmers now who included sought i. The night had been dark and the buggy lamps faint but around a farm in the valley which everyone knew from the account must be now whom the darkness had been less thick a dim though distinct luminosity seemed to adhere in all the vegetation grass leaves and blossoms alike. Well at one moment a detached piece of the phosphorescent appeared to stir furtively in the yard near the barn the grass had so far seemed untouched and the cows were freely pastured in the law near the House but toward the end of May the milk began to be bad God then whom have the cows driven to the uplands after which the trouble ceased not long after this change in the grass and leaves became apparent to the i. all the verdure was going gray and was developing a highly singular quality of Brittleness. Me was now the only person who had ever visited the place and his visits were becoming fewer and fewer when school closed the gardeners were virtually cut off from the world. And sometimes let me me do their errands in town. They were failing curiosity both physically and mentally and no one was surprised. When the news of Mrs Gardiner's madness stole around? It happened in June about the anniversary of the meteors fall and the poor woman screamed about things in the air air which she could not describe in her raving. There was not a single specific noun but only verbs and pronouns things moved wbt changed and fluttered and ears tingled to impulses which were not wholly sound. Something was taken away. She was being drained of something. Something was fascinating itself on her. That ought not to be someone must make keep off. Nothing was ever still in the night. The walls and windows shifted did now whom did not send her to the country asylum but let her wander about the house as long as she was harmless to herself and others even when her expression changed he did nothing but when the boys grew afraid of her and Thaddeus nearly fainted at the way she made faces at him. He decided to keep her locked in the attic by July she had ceased to speak and crawled on all force and before that month was over. Now whom got the mad notion that she was slightly slightly luminous in the dark as you now clearly saw was the case with the nearby vegetation. It was a little before this that the horse's has had stampeded something had aroused them in the night. And they're saying and kicking in their stalls had been terrible. There seemed virtually nothing to do to calm home them in one Whom opened the stable door? They all bolted out like frightened. Woodland dear it took a week to track all four and when found they were seen to be quite useless and unmanageable something had snapped in their brains and each one had to be shot for. Its own good now. Whom borrowed a horse from on me for his haying? Being but found it would not approach the barn. It Shield balked and win need and in the end he could do nothing but drive it to the yard while the men use their own strength to get the heavy wagon near enough the hayloft convenient bitching and all the while the vegetation was turning gray and brittle even the flowers hours who's Hughes have been so strange were graying now and the fruit was coming out gray and warped an tasteless. The astor's and Goldenrod bloomed grey and distorted and the roses and Zinnias. And Holly Hawks in the Front Yard was such blasphemous looking things. That not one's oldest boy Zana's cut them down. The strangely puffed insects died about that time even the bees that had left their hives and take into the woods by September. All the vegetation was fast crumbling to a grayish powder and now whom feared the trees would die before the poison was out of the soil. His wife now had spells terrific screaming and he and the boys were in a constant state of nervous tension. They shunned people now and when school all open the boys did not go but it was a me on one of his rare visit to. I realize that well water was no longer good. It had an an evil taste. That was not exactly feted nor exactly salty and to me advised his friend to dig another well on higher ground to use the soil was good again n no whom however ignored the warning for he had by that time become callous to strange and unpleasant things. He and the boys continued to use the tainted supply drinking it as listlessly and mechanically as eight their meagre and ill cooked meals and did their thankless and monotonous chores. The the aimless days there was something of stolid resignation about all of them as if they waked half in another world between lines in some nameless guards to a certain and familiar. Dum thaddeus went mad in September after a visit to the well he had gone with a Pale. That had come back empty-handed shrieking and waving his arms and sometimes lapsing into an insane. titter or whisper are about the colors. The moving colors down there too in one family was pretty bad. But now whom was very brave about it. He let the boy run for about a week until he began stumbling and hurting himself and then he shot him in the attic room across the hall from his mother's The way they screamed at each other from behind their locked doors was very terrible especially to little Merwin. Who fancied they talked in some terrible language that was not of earth? Merwin was getting frightfully. Imaginative and his restlessness was worse after the shutting away of the brother author who had been his greatest playmate about the same time the mortality among the livestock commenced poultry turned. Grayish died very quickly their meat being found dry and noise some upon cutting hogs grew inordinately fat than suddenly began to undergo loathesome changes inches. which no one could explain? Their meat was of course useless and now whom was at his wit's end no rural veterinary would approaches place and the city. The veterinary from Arkham was openly baffled. The swine began growing grey and Brittle and falling to pieces before they died and there Isan muzzle developed singular alterations. It was very inexplicable for. They had never been fed from the tainted vegetation. Then something something struck the cows certain areas or sometimes the whole body would be uncannily shriveled or compressed and atrocious Proteus collapses or disintegration 's were common in the last ages and death was always the result. There would be a graying and turning brittle like that which would be set the hogs there could be no question of poison for all the cases occurred in a locked and undisturbed barn. No bites or prowling. Things could have brought the fires for what live beast of earth can pass through solid obstacles. It must only be natural darrelle disease yet what disease could wreak. Such results was beyond any minds guessing. When the harvest came there was not an animal all surviving on the place for the stock and poultry? Were dead and the dogs had run away. These dogs three number had all vanished one night and we're never or heard of again. The five cats left some time before but they're going with scarcely noticed since they're now seem to be no mice. Only Mrs Gardiner had made pet so so the graceful feed lines on the nineteenth of October now whom staggered into armies house with hideous news. The death had come to poor thaddeus in his attic room and it had come in a way which could not be told now whom had dug a grave in the rail family family plot behind the farm and had put their in what he found. There could have been nothing from the outside for the small barred window and locked doors were intact but it was as it had been in the barn me. And his wife consoled the stricken man as best. They could but shuddered as they did so stark terror seemed to cling round the gardeners and all they touched and the very presence at one in the house was a breath from rains unnamed. An unnamed mobile accompanied now whom home with the greatest reluctance and did what he might calm hysterical sobbing of Little Merlin. Zana's needed no calming. He had come of late. Do nothing but stare into space and obey what his father told him and me thought that his fate was very merciful now and then Merwin screams were answered faintly from the Attic and in response to an enquiring look now whom said that. His wife was getting very feeble able when night approached a me manage to get away for not even friendship could make him stay in that spot when the faint glow of the vegetation began and the trees may or may not have swayed without wind. It was really lucky for me that he was not more imaginative. Even as things worked in his mind was bent ever so slightly but had he been able to connect and reflect upon all the portends around him he must inevitably Have turned a total maniac. In the twilight. He hastened home the screams of the mad woman and the nervous child ringing horribly in his ears three days later. Now whom lurched into Ami's kitchen in the early morning. And in the absence of his host Stamford out out a desperate tale. Once more while Mrs Pearce listened in clutching freight it was little Merwin. This time he was gone. He had gone out late at night with a lantern and a Pale for water. At never come back. He'd been going to pieces for days and hardly knew what he was about screamed at everything there. There'd been a frantic shriek from the yard then but before the father could get to the door. The point was gone. There was no glow from the lantern. He had taken the child himself no trace and the time now whom thought Lantern Impale were gone too but when dawn came and the man had plotted back from his all night search of the woods and fields. He had found some very curious things near the well. There was a crushed apparently somewhat melted mass of iron which had certainly been the winter n- While a bent bail and twisted iron hoops beside it. Both half used seemed to hint at the remnants of the Pale. That was all now whom was passed imagining. Mrs Pearce was blank an Emmy when he had reached home and heard the tale could give no guests Marwan. When was gone and there would be no use and telling the people around who shunned all gardeners now no use either telling the city people at Arkham who laughed at everything thing that was gone and now Merwin was gone something was creeping creeping and waiting to be seen and felt and I heard now whom would go soon and he wanted me to look after his wife Zana's if they survived him it must all be a judgment of some sort so he could not fancy what four since he had always walked up rightly? In the Lord's ways safaris he knew for over two weeks a meese on nothing if not whom home and then worried about what might have happened. He overcame his feared and paid the Gardner place a visit. There was no smoke from the great chimney any and for a moment the visitor was apprehensive of the worst. The aspect of the whole farm was shocking grayish withered grass and leaves on the ground vines falling in Brittle wreckage from archaic walls and Gables and great bear trees clawing up the gray November sky with a studied malevolence level. In which I'm me could not but feel had come from some subtle change in the tilted the branches but now whom was alive after all. He was weak and lying on account in the low ceiling kitchen but perfectly conscious and able to give simple orders to Zennis the whole room. I'm was deadly cold. And as me visibly shivered the host shouted Husk elitism. Ns for more would would indeed was sorely needed since the cavernous fireplace was unlit and empty with the cloud of soot blowing about in the chill wind that came down the chimney presently now whom asked asked him if the extra would had made him anymore comfortable and then me saw what had happened. The stout EST cord had broken it. Last and the hapless list farmers mind was proof against Moore sorrow questioning tactfully. Emmy could get no clear data at all about the missing Zennis in the well. He lives in the well was all the clouded father would say there were flashes across the visitors mind a sudden the thought of the Matt Wife and he changed his line of inquiry. Naby y here. She is with the surprised response of poor. Now whom home and soon that he must search for himself leaving the harmless babbler on the couch. He took the keys from their nail beside the door inclined lime the creaking stairs to the attic. It was very close and noise him up there and no sound could be heard from any direction of the four doors. Ores incite. Only one was locked in on this. He tried various keys on the ring he had taken. The third key proved the right one and after some fumbling emmy through rope in the low white door it was quite dark inside for the window was small and half obscured by the crude wooden bars and I could see nothing at it. All on the wide plank floor the stench was beyond enduring and before proceeding further. He had to retreat to another room and returned with his lungs filled with breathable air. When he did enter he saw something dark in the corner and upon seeing it more clearly he screamed outright while he screamed he? He thought a momentary cloud eclipse the window and a second later he felt himself brushed as if by some hateful current vapor strange colours danced just before his eyes and had not present horror numbed him he would have thought of the globe yellow in the media or the geologist's hammer had shattered and of the morbid vegetation vegetation which had sprouted in the spring as it was he thought only of the blasphemous monstrosity which confronted him and which all too clearly had shared the nameless fate of young Thaddeus and the livestock. But the terrible thing about this horror was it very slowly and perceptibly moved as it continued to crumble. Emmy would give me no added particulars to this scene but the shape in the corner does not reappear in his tail as a moving object. There are things which cannot be mentioned and what is done in common humanity is sometimes cruelly judged I by the law I gathered that no moving thing was left in that attic room and that to leave anything capable of motion there would have been a deed indeed so monstrous as too damn any accountable being to eternal torment. Anyone but a stolid farmer would have fainted. Gone Mad but but I'm you walked conscious through that low doorway and locked the occurred secret behind him. There would be no whom to deal with now. He must be fed intended ended and removed to some place where he could be cared for commencing his descent of the dark stairs. Ame- heard a thud below him. He he even thought a scream had been suddenly choked off and recalled nervously the clammy vapor which had brushed by him in that frightful room above. What presence had his his cry and entry started up halted by some vague fear he heard some further sounds below indubitably? There was a sort of heavy dragging most detestable sticky noise as if some fiendish an unclean species of suction with an associative sense goaded feverish heights. He thought unaccountably of what he had seen upstairs. Good God what Eldridge Dreamworld was this into which he had blundered. He dared move neither backward nor forward but stood there trembling at the black curve of the boxed in staircase every trifle of the scene burned itself into his brain. The sounds the sense of dread expectancy the darkness the steepness of the narrow steps and merciful heaven the faint but unmistakable luminosity of all the woodwork work in sight steps sides exposed lades and beams alike than there burst forth a Frantic Winnie from AMIS horse outside followed at once by clatter which told a frenzied run away in another moment. Horse and Buggy had gone beyond earshot leaving the frightened man on the dark stairs to guess what had sent them but that was not all there had been another sound out there. A sort of liquid splash water. It must have been the well. He had left hero untied near it. And a buggy wheel must have brushed ashed coping and knocked in a stone and still the Pale phosphor essence glowed in that detestably ancient woodwork. God and how old the house was most of it built before sixteen seventy and the gambro roof not later than seventeen thirty. A A feeble scratching on the floor downstairs now sounded distinctly and emmys grip tightened on the heavy sticky had picked up in the attic for some purpose. Slowly nerving himself. He finished his descent and walked boldly toward the kitchen but he did not complete the walk because what he sought was no longer there. It had come to meet him and it was still alive after a fashion whether it had crawled or whether it had been dragged By any external force Ami could not say but the death had been added everything had happened in the last half hour but collapse apps grain and disintegration were already far advanced there was a horrible Brittleness and dry fragments. Were scaling off. An me could not touch it but looked horrifyingly into the distorted parody. That had been a face. One was at no whom what was it. He whispered and the cleft Bowl Djing lips were just able to crackle out a final answer. Nothing Nothing the color it burns cold and wet but it burns. It lived in the well. I seen it it kind of smoke just like the flowers. Last spring the Welsh shown at night fad and Murnian Zanice everything alive sucking the life out of everything and that stone. It must've come in that stone. Pizon the whole place lace. Don't know what it wants. The round thing them men from college dug out in the stone they smashed it. It was the same same color just the same like the flowers. And plants must have been more of them seeds seeds they growed. I seen it the first time. This week must've got strong Zana's he was a big boy for life. Beats down your mind and then gets it burns your up the well water. He was right about that ego water. Zana's never come back from the well. Get Away Draws Ya you know. Something's coming but take no use. I seen it time and again sense was took. Where's Naby me my head snow? Good don't know how long sent fatter it'll get her. We care for just a color. Her face is getting to have that color sometimes towards the night and it burns and sucks it come from someplace where things ain't as they is here one of those professor said so he was right lookout me. It'll do something more. Suck the life out but that was all that which spoke could speak no more because it had completely caved in Emmy laid a red cheat tablecloth over what was left and reeled out the back door into the fields. He climbed the slope to the ten acre pasture and stumbled home by the North Road in the woods. He could not pass that well from which his horse had run in a way he had looked at it through the window and had seen that no stone was missing from the rim. The lurching buggy had not dislodged. Anything at all. The splash had been something else. Something which went into well after it had done with poor now whom when Amee reached his house the Horse and Buggy had arrived before him and thrown his wife into fit to being reassuring her without explanations he set out at once wants for Arkham and notify the authorities that the Gardner family was no more. He indulged to not tails but merely told that the deaths of now whom and Naby that thaddeus being already known and mentioned that the cause seemed to be the strange element which had killed livestock. He also stated that Merwin Zana's had disappeared hurt. There was considerable questioning at the police station. And in the end a me was compelled to take three officers to the Gardner Farm together with the coroner the medical examiner and the veterinary who had treated the deceased animals. He went much against his will for the afternoon with advancing and he feared the fall. All of night over that occurred place but it was some comfort to have so many people within the six men drove out in a Democrat wagon following emmys a buggy and arrived at the pastern farmhouse about four o'clock used as the officers were too gruesome experiences. Not One remained unmoved what was found in the attic and under the red cheeked tablecloth on the floor below the whole aspect of the farm with its grey. Desolation was terrible enough but those is to crumbling objects were beyond all bounds. No one could look at them long and even the medical examiner admitted that there was very little to examine. Hamin specimens could be analyzed of course so he busied himself in obtaining them and here it develops that a very puzzling aftermath occurred the College Laboratory. Where the two files of dust were finally taken under the spectra scope? Both samples gave off an unknown spectrum. In which many of the baffling bans. Were precisely like those which the strange media had yielded in the previous year. The property of emitting the spectrum vanished in a month the dust thereafter consisting mainly of alkaline phosphates and carbonates a me would not have told demand about the well if he had thought they meant to do anything then and there it was getting toward sunset and he was anxious to be away but he could not help glancing nervously at the stony curb her. The great sweep and one detective questioned him. He admitted that. Now whom had feared something down there so much so that he had never even thought of searching it for Merwin Irwin or Zana's after that nothing would do but they empty and explore. The well immediately saw me had to wait trembling well Pale after Pale of rank water was hauled up and splashed on the soaking ground outside. The men sniffed in disgusted the fluid and toward the last held their noses against the fetter. They were uncovering. It was not so long a job as they had feared it would be since the water was phenomenally. Me Lo there is no need to speak exactly of what they found Merwin. Zana's were both there in part though the vestiges were mainly mainly skeletal. There were also small deer and a large dog in about the same state and a number of bones smaller animals. The News and and slime at the bottom seemed inexplicably porous and bubbling and men who descended on handholds along poll found that he could sink the wooden shaft taft to any depth in the mud of the floor without meeting any solid obstruction. Twilight had now fallen and lanterns were being brought from the house then when it was seen that nothing further could be gained from the well. Everyone went indoors and conferred the ancient sitting room. While the intermittent light of spectral half moon played wanly on the grey desolation outside the men were frankly nonplussed by the entire case and it could find no convincing common element to linked very strange vegetable conditions the unknown disease of livestock and humans and the unaccountable deaths of Merwin Zennis in the tainted. Well they had heard the common country talk. It is true but could not believe that anything. Contrary to natural law had occurred no doubt the media had poisoned the soil but the illness of persons and animals who had eaten nothing grown in that soil was another matter. Was it the wellwater very possibly. It might be a good idea to analyze. Is it but what particular madness could have made. Both boys jump into the well. Their deeds were so similar in the fragments showed showed that they had both suffered from the gray brittle death why was everything so grey and Brittle it was the coroner her seated near a window overlooking the yard who I noticed the glow about the well night had fully sat in and all the aboard grounds seemed faintly luminous Ns with more than the fitful moonbeams. But this new glow with something definite and distinct and appeared to shoot up from the black pit like a softened softened ray from a searchlight giving Dole reflections in the little ground pools where the water had been emptied. It had a very queer color and as all the men clustered around the window. Emmy give a violent start for this. Strange beam of gasoline miasma was to him of no unfamiliar Hugh he had seen in that color before and feared to think what it might mean he had seen it in the nasty brutal globule in that area. Light two summers ago had seen it in the crazy vegetation education of the springtime and had thought he had seen it for an instant that very morning against the small barred window of that terrible attic room where nameless us things had happened. It had flashed there a second into clammy and hateful current of vapor had brushed past him and then poor who had been taken by something of that color he had said so at the last said it was the globule and the plants after that had come the runway in the yard and the splash in the well and now that well was belching forth to the night. A Pale insidious beam of that same demonic tint. It does credit to the alertness of AMIS. Mind that he puzzled even at that tense. Moment over point which was essentially oy scientific he could not but wonder at his gleaning of the same impression from a vapor glimpsed in the daytime against a window opening on the morning sky and and from Iraq. TORONTO ACCELERATION SEEN AS FOS forescent missed against the black and blasted landscape. It wasn't right. It was against the nature and he thought of those terrible last words of his stricken friend. He'd come from some place where things ain't as it is here one of them. Professors said so all three horses outside tied to a pair of shriveled saplings. By the road where now naming and pawing frantically the wagon driver started for the door to do something but emmy laid shaky hand on his shoulder. Don't go out there. He whispered. There's more to this nor what we know. Now whom said something living in the well. That sucks your life hot. He said it must be some at growed from a round ball like Guan we all seen in the meteor stone that fell a year ago. June sucks and Burns he said and is just a cloud of color. Like the light out there so now and you can hardly see and can't tell what it is now whom thought it feeds on everything living and get stronger all the time. He said he seen in at this last week. It must be something from way often. The Sky like the men from the college last year says the meteor stone was the away it's made and the way it works eight like no way of God's world it's summit from beyond so the men paused indecisively as the light from the well grew stronger and the hitched horses pod and we need in increasing frenzy. It was truly an awful moment with terror in that ancient curse it house itself for monstrous sets of fragments to from the House and two from the well in the woodshed behind and and that shaft of unknown unholy iridescence from the slimy depth in front of me had restrained the driver on impulse forgetting how the injured himself was after the clammy brushing of that colored vapor in the attic room. But perhaps it is just as well that he acted as he did. No one will ever know what was abroad that night and though the blasphemy from beyond had not so far hurt any human of unweakened mind. There is no telling what it might have done. Don At that last moment and with seemingly increased strength and the special signs of purpose it was soon to display beneath the half clouded moonlit Sky I all at once one of the detectives. The window gave a short sharp gasp. The others looked at him then quickly followed his own gaze upward to the point at which. It's idle straying. had been suddenly arrested. There was no need for words. What had been disputed in country gossip was disputable? No no longer and it is because of the thing which every man of that party agreed in whispering later on that the strange days are never talked about in Arkham welcome. It is necessary to premise. That there was no wind at that hour of the evening one did arise not long afterward but there was absolutely lutely none then. Even the dry tips of the lingering hedge mustard grey and blighted and the fringe on the roof of the standing and Democrat. Wagon were unstirred and yet amid that tents godless calm the high bare boughs of all the trees in the yard. Hard were moving. They were twitching. Morbidly and spasmodically clawing and convulsive epileptic madness at the moonlit clouds scratching impotently in the noxious air as if jerked by some alien and body Lewis Line of linkage with sub terrain horrors writhing an and struggling below. The black roots. Not a man breathed for several seconds. Then a cloud of darker depth passed over the moon and the silhouette of clutching branches and the silhouette of clutching branches faded out momentarily at this. There was a general cry muffled with awe but Husky and almost identical from every throat for the terror had not faded with the silhouette and in a fearsome instant of deeper deeper darkness the watchers saw wriggling at the treetop height. A thousand tiny points of faint and UN hollowed radiance Tipping each bow like the fire of Saint Elmo or the flames that came down on the apostles head at pentecost. It was a monstrous Constellation Nation of unnatural. Light like glutted swarm of corpse Fed Firefly's dancing hellish Sarah bonds over an accursed marsh and its color solar was that same nameless intrusion which Ami had come to recognize and read all the while the shaft of phosphorus essence from from the well was getting brighter and brighter bringing to the minds of the huddle men a sense of doom and abnormality which far out traced any image. Their conscious minds could form. It was no longer shining out. It was pouring out. And as the shapeless stream of untraceable color left the well it seemed to flow directly into the sky the veterinary shivered and walked to the front door. To drop the heavy extra bar across it emmy shook no less and had to tug and point for lack of controllable voice when he wished to draw notice to the growing luminosity of the trees the naming in stamping of the horses had become utterly frightful but not a soul of that group in the house would have ventured forth for any earthly reward with the moment the shining of the trees increased while they're restless branches seem to strain more and more toward verticality the wood of the well sweep was shining now and presently a policeman dumbly pointed to some wooden sheds and beehives near the stonewall on the West they were commencing to shine to though the tethered vehicles of the visitors seemed so far unaffected then there was a wild commotion and clopping shopping in the road. And as a me quenched lamp for better seeing they realized the span of Frantic Graze and broke their sapling and run off with Democrat wagon. The shock served to loosen several tongues and embarrassed. Whispers were exchanged it spreads on everything organic. It's been around here muttered the medical examiner no one replied but the man who had been in the well give hint that his long pole must have stirred up something. Intangible it was awful he added there was no bottom at all. Just use an bubbles in the feeling of something lurking down there. Ami's emmys horse still pod and screamed deafeningly in the road outside and nearly drowned. It's owners faint. Quaver as he mumbled his formless reflections. Didn't it come from that stone it growed down there. It got everything. Living it fed itself on them mind and Body Fad God and Marnie Janus Naby knew who was the last they all drunk the water. It got strong on them. It came from beyond beyond where things ain't like they here now. It's going home at this point as the column of unknown colour flared suddenly stronger and began to. We've itself into fantastic suggestions of shape which each spectator later described differently. There came from poor tethered hero. Such a sound is no man before or sense ever heard from a horse. Every person in that low pitch sitting room stopped stopped his ears and Emmy turned away from the window in horror and nausea. Words could not convey it when we looked worked out again the hapless beastly huddled inert in the moonlit ground between the splintered shafts of the buggy. That was the last of hero till they buried him the next day but the president was no time to mourn for almost at this instant. A detective silently called attention to something terrible in the very very room with them in the absence of the lamp. Light it was clear that a faint phosphorescent had begun to pervade the entire apartment it glowed on the broad plank floor and the fragment of rag carpet and shimmered over the sashes of the small paned. Windows it ran up up and down the exposed corner posts chorus gated about the shelf and Mantel and infected the very doors and furniture each each minute sought strengthen and at lasted was very plain. That healthy living things must leave that house me. Shoot them the back door. In the path up through the fields to the ten acre pasture they walked and stumbled as in a dream and did not dare look back. They were away on the high ground. They were glad out of the path for they could not have gone the front way by that. Well it was bad enough passing the glowing barn and sheds and those shining orchard trees with their gnarled the fiendish contours but thank heaven. The branches did their worst twisting high up. The Moon went under some very black cloud cloud as they crossed the rustic bridge over Chapman's Brooke and it was blind groping from there to the open meadows when they looked back toward toward the valley. And the distant Gardner place at the bottom they saw a fearsome site all the farm was shining with the hideous unknown blend of color trees buildings and even such grass an urban as had not been wholly change to lethal gray Brittleness the the bows were all straining. Skyward tipped with tongues of foul flame and Lambeth trickling of some monstrous fire were creeping about the ridge-poles of the House barn and sheds it was a scene from vision for Sally and over all the rest rain that riot of Luminous Amorphous business that alien and under mentioned rainbow of cryptic poison from the well seething feeling lapping reaching scintillating scintillating straining and malignly bubbling in its cosmic and unrecognizable criticism than without out warning the hideous thing shot vertically up toward the sky rocket or meteoric leaving behind no trail and disappearing through around and curiously regular hole in the clouds before any man could gasp or cry out. No watcher can never forget that sight and stared blankly at the stars Sickness Danube twinkling above the others. where the unknown color had melted into the Milky Way but his gaze was the next? The moment called swiftly to Earth by the crackling in the valley it was just that only a wooden ripping thing and crackling not an explosion as so many others of the party vowed yet the outcome was the same for in one feverish. KALEIDOSCOPIC I discovered instant there burst up from that doomed and occurred farm gleaming eruptive cataclysm of unnatural sparks and substance butlering the glance of the few who sought and sending forth the Zinatha bombarding cloudburst of such colored and fantastic fragments. As our universe must needs disown through quickly reclosing vapors they followed the great morbidity that had vanished I ended in another second Vais had vanished to behind and below was only darkness to which the men dared not return and all about was a mounting wind which seemed to sweep down in black for gusts from interstellar space it shrieked and howled and lashed the fields in distorted woods and a mad cosmic frenzy till soon the trembling ambling party realized it would be no use waiting for the moon to show what was left down their homes to odd even to hint theories the seven shaking. Men trudged back toward Arkham by the North Road me was worse than his fellows and beg them to see him inside his own kitchen instead. Instead of keeping straight onto town he did not wish to cross the knighted. Wind whipped woods alone to his home on the main road for he had had an added shock the others were spared and was crushed forever with a brooding fear. He dared not even mentioned for many years to come as the rest of the watchers on that times suicide hill had stalled Lee set their faces toward the road and me had looked back in instant at the shadowed valley of desolation so lately sheltering his his ill-starred friend and from that stricken faraway spot. He had seen something feebly rise only to sink down again upon the place from which the great shapeless horror had shot into the sky. It was just a color but not any color of our or Thir Thir Heavens and because we recognized that color and knew that this last faint remnant must still lurk down there in the well he has never been quite right since me would never go near the place again. It is over half a century now since the horror happened but he has never been in there and we'll be gladly when the new reservoir blots it out I shall be glad to for I do not like the way. The sunlight changed color around the mouth of that abandoned. Well I passed. I hope the water will always be very deep but even so I shall never drink in. Kit I do not think I shall visit the Arkham country hereafter three of the men who had been with me return the next morning to see the ruins by daylight but but there were not any real ruins only the bricks of the chimney the stones of the seller some mineral and metallic litter here and there and the rim of that as well save for as dead horse which they towed away and buried and the buggy which they shortly returned to him. Everything thing that had ever been living had gone five eldrick acres of dusty grey desert remained nor has anything ever grown their percents to this day. It sprawls open to the sky like a great spot eaten by acid in the woods and fields and the few who ever dared glimpse it in spite of the tales have named it the blasted heath the rural tales queer. They might even be quiver. City men and college chemists could be interested enough to analyze the water from that disused well or the great dust that no win seems ever to dispersed botanist honest to ought to study the stunted flora on the borders of that spot for they might shed light on the country notion that the blade is spreading little by little perhaps APPs inch each year. People say the color of the neighboring urban is not quite right in the spring and the wild things leave queer prints in the light winter snow. Snow never seems quite so heavy on the blasted heath as it is elsewhere horses. The few that are left in this motor age grow skittish in the silent valley and hunters cannot depend on their dogs near the splotch of Greyish dust. They say the mental influences are very bad to numbers. I went queer in the years after not. Who's taking and always? They lacked the power to get away. Then the stronger minded folk all left the region and only the foreigners corners tried to live in the crumbling old homesteads they could not stay though. And one sometimes wonders what insight beyond ours. They're wild weird stories of whispered magic agic might have given them their dreams at night. They protest are very horrible in that grotesque country and surely the very look of the dark realm is enough to stir remortgage fancy. No traveler has ever escaped a sense of strangeness in those deep ravines an artist's shiver as they paint thick woods whose mystery is as much much of the spirit of the I I myself am curious about the sensation. I derived from my one lone. Walk before me told me his tail. When when twilight came I had vaguely wished some clouds would gather for an odd timidity about the deep skied? Voids above me had crept into my soul. Do not ask me for my opinion. I do not know that is all there was no one but me. To question for Arkham people will not talk about the strange days at all three professors. Who saw the area lighten? The color. GLOBULE are dead. There were other globules. It depend on that one must have fed itself and escaped and probably there was another which was too late. No doubt it is still down the well. I know I know there was something wrong. With the sunlight I saw above. That may Asmal Brink. The rustic say the blight creeps an inch a year so perhaps there is a kind of growth or nourishment even now but whatever demon hatchlings in there. It must be tethered to something or else it would quickly spread. Is it fastened to the roots of those trees that claw the air. One of the current Arkham Tales is about fat. Oaks that shine and move as they ought not to do at at night. What it is only God knows? In terms of matter I suppose the thing amid described would be called a gas but this gas obeyed laws was that are not of our cosmos. This was no fruit of such worlds and sons as shine on the telescopes and photographic plates have our observatories stories. This was no breath from the skies whose motions and dimensions are astronomers measure or deemed too vast to measure. It was just just a colour out of space a frightful messenger from unformed realms of infinity beyond all nature as we know it from realms whose mere existence stuns the brain and numbs us with the black extra cosmic gulfs throws open before our frenzied is. I don't very much. If on the consciously lied to me and I do not think his tail was all a freak of madness. Kness as the townsfolk had forewarned. Something terrible came to the hills and valleys on that media and something terrible though I know not in what proportion Shen still remains. I shall be glad to see the water come. Meanwhile I hope nothing will happen to a me. He saw so much of the thing. And Its influence was so insidious. Why has he never been able to move away? How clearly he recalled those is dying words of now? WHO GMS can't get away draws you you know so much coming but take no use a me such a good old man? When the reservoir gang gets to work I must write the chief engineer to keep Sharp Watch on him? I would hate to think of him as the grey twisted Brito monstrosity which persists more and more troubling in my sleep.

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H.P. Lofecraft's The Colour out of Space

Horror Fictional and True Stories

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H.P. Lofecraft's The Colour out of Space

"Color out of space west of arkham the hills rise wild there are valleys with deep woods that no axes ever cut. There are dark narrow glenn's where the trees slope fantastically and within brooklyn's trickle without ever having caught the glint of sunlight and the gentler slopes there are farms ancient rocky with squat. Moscow did cottages brooding eternally over old new england secrets in the league of great ledges. These are all vacant now. The wide chimneys crumbling and the shingle sides bulging perilously low gambro roofs. The old folk gone away and foreigners. I'd like to live their french. Canadians have tried it. Italians have tried it. And the polls have come in departed. It is not because of anything that can be seen or heard or handled because of something that is imagined. The place is not good for the imagination and does not bring restful greens at night. It must be this which keeps the foreigners away for old ammi. Pierce has never told them of anything he recalls the strange days whose head has been a little queer for years is the only one who still remains or whoever talks the strange days and he dares to do this because his houses so near the open fields and the traveled roads around arkham there was once a road over the hills and through the valleys that ran straight where the blasted heath is now but people ceased to use it and new road was laid curving far toward the south crisis of the old one can still be found amidst the weeds of a returning wilderness and some of them will doubtless linger even when half the hollows are flooded for the new reservoir. Then the dark woods will be cut down. The blasted heath will slumber far below blue waters. Who surface will mirror the sky and ripple in the sun and the secrets of the strange days will be one with the deep secrets. One with the hidden. Laura of old ocean and all the mystery of primal earth. When i went into the hills and vales to survey for the new reservoir. They told me the place was evil. They told me this in arkham and because that is a very old town full of which legends i thought the evil must be something which grande dams and whispered to children through centuries the name blasted heath seemed to me very odd theatrical and i wondered how it had come into the folklore of puritan people then i saw that dark westward tangle of glen slopes for myself and cease to wonder at anything besides its own elder mystery. It was morning when i saw it but shadow lurked always. There trees grew thickly and their trunks. Were too big for any healthy new england would it was too much silence in the dim alleys between them and the floor was too soft with the dang moss and manning's of infinite years of decay in the open spaces mostly along the line of the old road. There were little hillside farms. Sometimes with all the buildings standing sometimes with only one or two and sometimes with only alone chimney or fast filling seller leads and briers rained and furtive wild things rustled in the undergrowth hayes restlessness and oppression a touch of the unreal and the grotesque as if some vital element of perspective or chiaroscuro were awry. I do not wonder that the foreigners would not stay. This was no region to sleep in. It was too much like a landscape of salvator rosa. Too much like some forbidden woodcut in a tale of terror that even all this was not so bad as the blasted heath. i knew at the moment. I came upon it. At the bottom of a spacious valley for no other name could fit such a thing or any other thing fit such a name. It was as if the poet had coined the phrase from having seen this one particular region it must thought as i viewed it be the outcome of a fire. Why had nothing new ever grown over those five acres of grey desolation sprawled open to the sky like a great spot eaten by acid in the woods and fields. It lay largely to the north of the road line but encroached a little on the other side. I felt an odd reluctance about approaching and did so at last only because my business took me through past it. There was no vegetation of any kind on that broad expanse but only a fine grey dust or ash which no win seemed ever to blow about the trees near it were sickly and stunted and many dead trunks stood or lay rotting rim as i walked hurriedly by i saw the tumbled bricks and stones of an old chimney and seller on my right and the yawning black mov abandoned well who stagnant. Vapors played strange tricks with the use of the sunlight. Even the long dark woodland climb beyond seemed welcome in contrast and i marveled no more. The frightened whispers of arkham people. There have been no house a ruined near even in the old days. The place must've been lonely and remote and at twilight dreading to repass that ominous spot. I walked circuitously back to the town by the curving road. On the south vaguely wished some clouds would gather for an odd caminiti about the deep sky is void above. It crept into my soul. In the evening i asked old people in our come about the blasted heath and what was meant by that phrase strange days which so many evasively muttered. I could not however get any good answers accepted. All the mystery was much more recent than i dreamed. It was not a matter of legendary at all but something within the lifetime of those who spoke it happened in the eighties and family disappeared or was killed. Speakers would not be exact and because they all told me to pay no attention to old ami pierces crazy tales. I saw him out the next morning. Having heard that he lived alone in the ancient tottering college. Where the trees. i begin to get thick. It was a fearsomely archaic place and it begun to exude the faint my asmal odor which clings about houses that have stood too long only with persistent knocking. Could i rouse the agent man. And when he shuffled timidly to the door. I could tell he was not glad to see me. He was not so feeble as expected but his eyes drooped in a curious way and is unkempt. Clothing white beard made him seem very warren and dismal not knowing just how he could best be launched on his tales. I gained a matter of business told him of my surveying and asked vague questions about the district. He was far brighter and more educated. Than i've been led to think and before i knew it had grasp quite as much of the subject as any man i had talked with in arkham he was not like other rustic side known in the sections where reservoirs be from him. There were no protests the miles of old wood and farmland to be blotted out. They'll perhaps there would have been had not his home lane outside. The bounds of the future lake relief was all that he showed relief at the doom of the dark ancient valleys through which had roamed all his life. They were better underwater now. Better underwater since the strange days and with this opening is husky voice sank low while his body leaned forward and his right forefinger began to point shakily and impressively. It was then that i heard the story. And as the rambling voice scraped and whispered on a shivered again and again. Despite the summer day off and i had to recall the speaker from ramblings peace out scientific points which he knew only by fading parrot memory of professors talk or bridge over gaps. Where his sense of logic and continuity broke down. When he was done. I did not wonder that his mind snapped a trifle. Or that the folk of arkham would not speak much of the blasted heath. I hurried back before sunset to my hotel unwilling to have the stars come out above me in the open and the next day returned to boston. To give up my position. I could not go into that. Dim chaos of old forest and slow again or face another time that gray blasted he with a black well. Yawn deep beside the tumbled bricks and stones. Reservoir will soon be built now. All those elder secrets will be safe forever under watery fathoms. But even then. I do not believe. I would like to visit that country night. At least not when the sinister stars are out and nothing could bribe me to drink the new city water of arkham. It all began old. Ami said with the meteorite before that time there have been no wild legends at all since the witch trials and even then these western woods. We're not feared half so much as the small island in muscat tonic. Where the devil held court beside a curious stone altar older than the indians. These were not haunted woods and they're fantastic. Dusk was never terrible till the strange days then there had come that whites noon tide cloud that string of explosions in the air and that pillar of smoke from the valley far in the wood and by night all arkham had heard of the great rock that fell out of the sky embedded itself in the ground beside the well at the name gartner place. That was the house which stood where the blasted heath was to come with trim. Quite name gardner house. Amidst its fertile gardens and orchards name had come to town to tell people about the stone and had dropped in at ami pierces on the way and it was forty then and all the queer things were fixed very strongly in his mind he and his wife had gone with the three professors from mr tannock university who hastened out the next morning to see the weird visitor from unknown stellar space and at wondered why neom called it so large the day before it had shrunk. Am said as he pointed out the big brownish mound above the ripped earth and charge grass near the archaic. Well sweep in his front yard. But the wise men answered that stones do not shrink its heat lingered persistently and they haven't declared did glowed faintly in the night. Professors tried it with a geologist hammer and found. It was oddly soft. It wasn't true so soft as to be almost plastic and they gouged rather than chip to specimen to take back to the college for testing. They took it in old pale borrowed from names kitchen for even the small piece refused to grow cool on the trip back. They stopped at ami's to rest and seem thoughtful. When mrs pearce remarked that the fragment was growing smaller and burning the bottom of the pale truly it was not large but perhaps they'd taken less than they thought the day after that all this was in june of eighty two the professors at trooped out again and a great excitement as they passed. Ami's told them what queer things the specimen had done and how it had faded holy away when they put it in a glass beaker. The beaker gone to and the wise men talked to the strange stones. Affinity for silicon. It had acted quite unbelievably in that. Well ordered laboratory doing nothing at all and showing included gases when heated on charcoal being wholly negative in the barak speed and soon proving itself absolutely nonvolatile at any producible temperature including that of the oxy. Hydrogen blowpipe on an angle it appeared highly malleable and in the dark luminosity was very marked stubbornly refusing to grow cool. It soon had the college in a state of real excitement and went upon heating before the spectra scope. It displayed shining bands. Unlike any known colors of the normal spectrum there was much breathless talk of new elements bizarre optical properties and other things which puzzled men of science. I want to say when faced by the unknown hot as it was. They tested it in a crucible. With all the proper reagents water did nothing hydrochloric. Acid was the same nitric acid and even aqua regia merely hissed and spattered against its torrid invulnerability ami had difficulty recalling all these things but recognize some solvents as i mentioned them in the usual order of us that were ammonia and caustic soda. Alcohol and ether nauseous carbon sulfide and a dozen others but although the weight grew steadily less as time passed and the fragments seemed to be slightly cooling. It was no in the solvents to show that they had attacked the substance at all. It was a metal though beyond a doubt it was magnetic for one thing and after its immersion. In the acid solvents there seemed to be thanked. Traces of the mid minch dot and figures found on meteoric iron when the cooling had grown very considerable. The testing was carried on in glass. And it was a glass beaker that they left all the chips made of the original fragment during the work the next morning. Both chips and beaker were gone without trace. N- only charged spot. Mark the place on the wooden shelf where they had been all this. The professors told ami as they paused his door and once more he went with them to see the stony messenger from the stars. This time his wife did not accompany them. It had now most certainly shrunk and even the sober professors could not doubt the truth of what they saw all around the dwindling brown earth had caved in and whereas it had been a good seven feet across the day before it was now scarcely five it was still hot and the sages studied its surface curiously as they detached another and larger piece with hammer and chisel gouge deeply this time and as they pride away. The smaller mass. They saw that. The car of the thing was not quite homogeneous they had uncovered what seemed to be the side of a large colored globule embedded in the substance the color which resembled some of the bands in the media. Strange spectrum was almost impossible to describe and it was only by analogy that they called it color at all and of side. Three to continue. Turn the cassette over side. Four tales of hp lovecraft by hp lovecraft continuing with the color out of space on page eighty one its texture was glossy and upon tapping it appeared to promise both brittleness and hollowness. One of the professors gave it a smart blow of the hammer and it burst with a nervous. Little pop nothing was omitted and all trace of the thing vanished with the puncturing left behind hollow spherical space about three inches across and all thought it probable that others would be discovered as the enclosing substance wasted away was vain so after a futile attempt to find additional globules by grilling the seekers left again with their new specimen which proved however is baffling in the laboratory as its predecessor had been aside from being almost plastic having heat magnetism and slight luminosity cooling slightly and powerful acids possessing an unknown spectrum. Wasting away in air and attacking silicon compounds with mutual destruction as a result presented no identifying features whatsoever and at the end of the tests. The college scientists were forced to own that they could not place it. It was nothing of this earth but a piece of the great side and as such dour with outside properties and 'obedient to outside laws that night there was a thunderstorm and when the professors went out today the next day they met with a bitter disappointment stone magnetic as it had been must have had some peculiar electrical property for it had drawn the lightning as name said with a singular persistence. Six times within an hour the farmer saw the lightning strike the furrow in the front yard and win the storm was over nothing remained but a ragged pit by the ancient. Well sweep half choked with caved in earth digging it borne no fruit and the scientists verified the fact of the utter banishment. The failure was total so that nothing was left to do. But go back to the laboratory and test again the disappearing fragment left carefully encased in lead at fragment lasted a week at the end of which nothing evaluate been learned of it when it had gone no residue was left behind and in time the professors felt scarcely sure they had indeed seen with waking is that cryptic vestige of the fathomless gulfs outside that loan. Weird message from other universes and other realms of matter force and entity as was natural. The paper made much of the incident with its collegiate sponsoring and sent reporters to talk with nathan gardner and his family. At least one boston daily. Also sent ascribe scribe and name quickly became a kind of local celebrity. He was lean genial person of about fifty living with his wife and three sons on the pleasant farmstead lavallee he in dami exchange visits frequently has did their wives and amy had nothing but praise for him. After all these years he seemed slightly proud of the notice his place at attracted and talked off of the meteorite in the succeeding weeks that july and august were hot and they worked hard at his haying and the ten acre pasture across chapman's broke his rattling wayne wearing deep ruts in the shadow. We lanes between labor tired and more than it had another years and he felt age was beginning to tell on him then fell the time of fruit and harvest. The pears and apples slowly ripened and name vowed that his orchards were prospering. As never before the fruit was growing phenomenal size and unwanted gloss and in such abundance that extra barrels were ordered to handle the future crop ripening came disappointment for all that gorgeous ray of specious lushness. Not one single jock was fit to eat into the find flavor of the pears and apples at craft stealthy bitterness and sickness so that even the smallest of bites induced lasting discussed it was the same with melons and tomatoes and name sadly saw that his entire crop was lost quick to connect events he declared that the meteorite had poisoned the soil and thanking heaven. That most of the other crops were in the plan. Lot along the road. Winter came early and was very cold and we saw him less often than usual and observed that he had begun to look worried the rest of his family to seem to have grown taciturn. And we're far from steady and they're churchgoing or there. Attendance at the various social events of the countryside for this reserve or melancholy. No cause could be found. Though all the household confessed now and then to poorer health and feeling a vague disquiet name himself gave the most definite statement of anyone when he said he was disturbed about certain footprints in the snow. They were the usual winter prints of red squirrels white rabbits and foxes that the brooding farmer profess to see something not quite right about their nature and arrangement. He was never a specific but appeared to think that they were not as characteristic of the anatomy and habits of squirrels and rabbits and foxes as they ought to be. Ami listened without interest talk until one night when he drove past names house in his sleigh on the way. Back from clark's corners. There have been a moon and a rabbit had run across the road. And the leaps of the rabbit. Were longer than either. Amy or is horse liked the latter. Indeed it almost run away when brought up by a firm rain thereafter. Ami gave names tales more respect and wondered why. The gardner dogs seem so cowed and quivering. Every morning they had developed nearly lost the spirit to bark in february. The mcgregor boys for meadow hill. Route shooting woodchucks and not far from the gardner place bagged a very peculiar. Specimen proportions of its body seems slightly altered. Queer way impossible to describe while its face had taken on an expression which no one ever saw in a woodchuck before the boys were genuinely frightened and through the thing away at once so that only their grotesque tales of it ever reached the people of the countryside shying away of the horses near names house had now become an acknowledged thing and all the basis for a cycle of whispered. Legend was fast taking form. People vowed that the snow melted faster around names than it did anywhere else and early in march. It was an odd discussion in potter's general store. And clarks corners. Stephen rice had driven past in the morning and had noticed the skunk cabbages coming up through the mud slides across the road. Never were things of such size seen before and they had held strange colors. That could not be put into any words. Shapes were monstrous and the horse had snorted at an odor which struck stephen is wholly unprecedented afternoon. Several persons drove past to see the abnormal growth and all agreed that plants that kind off never to sprout in a healthy world. Bad fruit of the fall before was freely mentioned and it went from mouth to mouth. There was poisoned in names. Ground of course was the meteorite. And remembering how strange. The men from the college found that stone to be several farmer spoke about the matter to them. One day paid name visit but having no love of wild tales and folklore were very conservative and what they inferred. The plants were certainly odd but all skunk cabbages are more or less odd shape and odor and hugh perhaps some mineral from the stone had entered the soil but it would soon be washed away and as for the footprints frightened horses. Of course this was me. Country talk which such a phenomenon. The light would be certain to start. It was really nothing for serious men to do in cases of wild gossip for superstitious rustic will say and believe anything and so all through the strange days. The professors stayed away and contempt only one of them when given to files of dust for analysis and a police job over a year and a half later recalled the queer color of that skunk cabbage have been very like one of the anomalous bands of light shown by the media fragment in the college spectra scope and like the brittle globule found embedded in the stone from the abyss the samples and this analysis case gave the same odd bands. At first later they lost the property. The trees budded prematurely around names and at night they swayed ominously in the wind name. Second son thaddeus ladder. Fifteen swore that they swayed also when there was no wind. But even the gossips would not credit this certainly however restlessness was in the air. The entire gardner family developed the habit of stealthy listening though. Not for any sound which they could consciously name. Listening was indeed rather a product of moments when consciousness seemed half to slip away unfortunately such moments increased week by week until it became common speech that something was wrong with all names folks when the early sachse fridge came out. It had another strange color. Not quite like that of a skunk cabbage but plainly related an equally. Who saw it damn took some blossoms to arkham and showed them to the editor of the gazette but that dignitary did no more than writing humorous article about them in which the dark fears. Arrests were held up to polite ridicule. It was a mistake of names to tell stalin city man about the way the great overgrown mourning cloak butterflies behaved in connection with these sachse fridges. April brought a kind of madness to the country folk and began that disuse of the road pass names which led to its ultimate abandonment. It was the vegetation. All the orchard. Trees blossomed forth strange colors and through the stony soil of the yard and adjacent pasture ridge sprang up a bizarre growth which only botanist could connect with the proper flora of the region no sane. Wholesome colors were anywhere to be seen except in the green grass and leakage but everywhere those hectic and pragmatic disease underlying primary tone without a place among the known tints of earth. the dutchman's breeches became a thing of sinister menace and the blood roots. Grew insolent in their chromatic perversion. Ami in the gardner is thought that must've colors had a sort of haunting familiarity and decided that they reminded one of the brutal globule in the name plowed and sowed the ten acre pasture. And the a lot but did nothing with the land around the house. He knew it would be of no use help that the summer strange growth withdrawal poison from the soil. He was prepared for almost anything now and grown used to the sense of something near him waiting to be heard the shunning of his house by neighbors told on him of course but it told on his wife. More boys were better off being at school each day but they could not help being frightened by the gossip that is especially sensitive. You suffered the most in may. The insects came names. Place became a nightmare buzzing and crawling. Most of the creatures seem not quite usual in their aspects and motions and their nocturnal habits contradicted. All former experience gardeners took to watching it night watching all directions at random for something. It could not tell what it was then they all own. The tata's had been right about the trees. This gardner was the next to see it from the window. As she watched the swollen bows of a maple against a moonlit sky bow shirley moved and there was no wind. It must be the sap strangeness. Come into everything growing now. It was none of names family at all. Who made the next discovery had dulled them and what they could not see was glimpsed by timid would mill salesman from bolton the drove by one night in ignorance of the country legends. What he told an arkham was given a short paragraph in the gazette and it was there that all the farmer's name included saw at first the night had been dark muggy lamps faint but around a farm in the valley which everyone knew from the account must be names. the darkness have been less thick. A dim though distinct luminosity seemed to win here and all vegetation grass leaves and blossoms alike while at one moment at attached piece of the phosphorus essence appeared to stir furtively in the yard near the barn. the grass had so far seemed untouched and the cows were freely pastured in the lot near the house toward the end of may. The milk began to be bad and name had the cows driven to the plans after which the trouble ceased not long after this change in grass and leaves became apparent to the i all the verger was going gray and was developing a highly singular quality of brittleness. Ami was now the only person who ever visited the place and his visits were becoming fewer and fewer when school closed. The gardeners were virtually cut off from the world and let ami do their errands in town were failing. Curiously both physically and mentally and no one was surprised. When the news of mrs gardiner's madness stole around. It happened in june. The anniversary of the meteors fall and the poor woman screamed about things in the air which she could not describe in her raving. There was not a single specific noun but only verbs and pronouns things moved and changed and flattered and ears impulses which were not wholly sounds. Something was taken away. She was being drained of something. Something was fascinating itself on her. That ought to be someone must make it keep off. Nothing was ever still in the night. Walls and windows shifted. Am did not send her to the county asylum but let her wander about the house as long as she was harmless to herself and others even when her expression changed did nothing but when the boys grew afraid of her and thaddeus nearly fainted at the way she made faces at him. He decided to keep her locked up in the attic. I july. She had ceased to speak and crawled on all fours and before that month was over. Name got the mad notion that she was slightly luminous in the dark as he now clearly saw was the case with the nearby vegetation. It was a little before this that the horses stampeded something that aroused them in the night and the naming and kicking in the stall and terrible. There seemed virtually nothing to do to calm them and when they opened the stable door they all bolted out like frightened. Woodland ear took a week to track all four and when found they were seemed to be quite useless and unmanageable something. It snapped in their brains and each one had to be shot for its own. Good name borrowed a horse from ami for his haying but found it would not approach the barn. It shied balked and winning and in the end he could do nothing but drive it into the yard. While the men use their own strength to get the heavy wagoneer enough the hayloft for convenient pitching and all the while the vegetation was turning gray and brittle even the flowers whose hugh had been so strange. We're graying now and the fruit was coming out gray and dwarfed tasteless the astor's and goldenrod bloomed grey and distorted and the roses zinnias and holly hawks in the front yard. We're such blasphemous looking things. That names eldest boys zina's cut them down. The strangely puffed insects died about that time even the bees that had left their hives and taken to the woods. I september all the vegetation was fast crumbling to a grayish powder and name feared that the trees would die before the poison was out of the soil. His wife now had spells of terrific screening and he and the boys were in a constant state of nervous tension shunned people now and when school opened the boys did not go but it was ami on one of his rare visits who i realized that the wellwater was no longer good that had an evil taste that was not exactly feted nor exactly salty and ami advised his friend dig another well on higher ground us till the soil was good again name however ignored the warning for. He had by that time become callous to strange and unpleasant things. He and the boys continued to use the tainted supply drinking it listlessly mechanically as they ate their meagre and ill cooked meals and did their thankless monotonous chores. Through the aimless days there was something of stolid resignation about them all as if they walked half in another world between lines of nameless guards to a certain in familiar doom. That is went mad. In after a visit to the well he had gone with a pale and had come back empty-handed shrieking and waving his arms and sometimes lapsing into an inane titter or a whisper about the moving colors down there too in one family was pretty bad but name was very brave about it. He left the boy roundabout for week until he began stumbling and hurting himself and then he shot him in an attic room across the hall from his mother's the way they screened in each other from behind their locked doors very terrible especially the little merwin who fancy. They talked in some terrible language. That was not earth. Merwin was getting frightfully. Imaginative and his restlessness was worse after the shutting away of the brother who had been his greatest playmate almost at the same time the mortality among the livestock commenced poultry turn grayish and died very quickly their meat being found dry and noise some upon cutting hogs grew inordinately fat and suddenly began to undergo loathsome changes which no one could explain. Their meat was of course useless and name was at his wit's end no rural veterinary would approach his place and the city veterinary from arkham was openly. Baffled swine began growing grey and brittle and falling to pieces before they died. And there is and muzzles developed singular alterations. it was very inexplicable for. They had never been fed from tainted vegetation. Then something struck the cows certain areas. Sometimes the whole body would be uncannily shriveled or compressed and atrocious collapses or disintegration. Were common in the last stages and death was always the result. It would be a graying and turning brittle like that which beset the hogs it could be no question of poison. Raw cases occurred in a locked undisturbed. Barn no bites of prowling things could have brought the virus. What live beast of earth can pass through solid obstacles. It must only be natural disease yet. What disease could wreak. Such results was beyond any minds guessing. When the harvest came that was not an animal surviving on the place for the stock and poultry. Were dead and the dogs had run away. These dogs three a number all vanished one night. And we're never heard of again. The five cats had left some time before but they're going with scarcely noticed since they now seem to be no mice. And only mrs gardner had made pets of the graceful felines on the nineteenth of october name staggered into ami's house with hideous news. The death had come to poor thaddeus in his attic room and it had come away which could not be told them dug a grave in the rail family plot behind the farm and it put their in what he found. It could have been nothing from outside for the small barred window unlocked. Door were intact but it was much as it had been in the barn ami. And his wife consoled the stricken man as best they could but shuttered as they did so stark terrorists seem to cling around the gardeners and all they touched and the very presence of one in the house was a breath from regions unnamed and unable and the accompanying name home with the greatest reluctance and did what he might come hysterical sobbing little merwin zina's needed no kami. He'd come late to do nothing but stare into space and obey what his father told him. And emmy thought that his fate was very merciful. Now and then merwin screens were answered faintly from the attic and in response to an enquiring look. Am said that his wife was getting very feeble. Night approached ami managed to get away for not. Even friendship could make him stay in spot when the faint glow of the vegetation began and the trees may or may not have swayed without wind was really lucky for ami that he was not more imaginative even as things were his mind was spent ever so slightly but had he been able to connect and reflect upon all the portends around him he must inevitably have turned total maniac and the twilight. He hastened home the screams of the mad woman and the nervous child ringing horribly in his ears. Three days later name lurched into ami's kitchen in the early morning. And in the absence of his host stamford out of desperate tale. Once more or mrs pearce listened clutching fried. It was little merwin. This time it was gone. Gone out late at night with a lantern and pale for water and it never come back even going to pieces for days and hardly knew what he was about screamed at everything. There have been a frantic shriek from the are then but before the father could get to the door. The bar was gone. There was no glow from the lantern. You've taken and of the child himself. No trace at the time name thought the lantern pale were to but when don came and demanded plotted back from his all night. Search of the woods and fields. He had found some very curious things near the well. It was a crash and apparently somewhat melted massive iron which has certainly been the lantern while a bail and twisted iron hoops beside it. Both have fused seemed to hint at the remnants of the pale. That was all name was passed imagining. Mrs pearce was blank an ami when he had reached home and heard the tale could give no guests. Merwin was gone and there would be no use and telling the people around who shunned all gardeners. Now no use either. In telling the city people at arkham who laughed at everything that had gone and now mirny gone something was creeping and creeping and waiting to be seen and felt and heard would go soon. You wanted ami to look after his wife and zina's him and be judgment of some sort though he could not fancy what for since he always walked uprightly in the lord's ways so far as he knew for over two weeks amazon. Nothing of nam and then worried about what might have happened. He overcame his fears and paid. The gardner place. Visit was no smoke from great chimney for a moment. The visitor was apprehensive of the worst. The aspect of the whole farm was shocking. Grayish withered grass and leaves on the ground finds falling and brittle wreckage from archaic walls and gables and great their trees clawing up at the gray november sky with studied malevolence which ami could not but feel at come from some subtle changes in the tilt of the branches but name was alive after all. He was week lying on a couch in the low sealed kitchen. Perfectly conscious and able to give simple orders. Dizziness room was deadly cold. Ami visibly shivered the host shattered husky dizziness for more would would indeed was sorely needed since the cavernous fireplace was unlit and empty with a cloud of soot blowing about in the chill wind. Came down the chimney presently name asked him if the extra would made them anymore. Comfortable and then ami saw what had happened the status card had broken it. Last and the hapless farmers mind was proof against moore sorrow questioning tactfully and it could get no clear data at all about the missing zina's in the well. He lives in a while. It was all that the cloud and father would say and they're flashed across the visitors mind sudden thought of the mad wife and he changed his line of inquiry abby. Why here she is with the surprised responsible. Poor nam and ami soon saw that he must search for himself leaving the harmless babbler on the couch. He took the keys from their nail beside the door and climbed the creaking stairs to the attic. It was very close and noise him up there and no sound could be heard from any direction of the four doors incite. Only one was locked and on this. He tried various keys on the ring. You've taken the third key proved the right one. And after some fumbling ami through open the low byte door it was quite dark inside for the window was small and half obscured by the crew wooden bars and ami could see nothing at all on the wide plank floor stanch was beyond enduring and before proceeding further. He had to retreat to another room and return with his lungs filled with breathable air when he did entry saw something dark in the corner and upon seeing it more clearly he screamed outright while he screamed he thought a momentary cloud eclipsed the window and a second later he felt himself brushed as if by some hateful current vapor strange colors danced before his eyes and had not a present horror numbed him he would have thought of the globule in the meteoric geologist hammered shattered and of the morbid vegetation that had sprouted in the spring as it was he thought only of the blasphemous monstrosity which confronted him in which all too clearly had shared the nameless fate of young thaddeus the livestock. The terrible thing about this horror was that it very slowly. Imperceptibly moved as it continued to crumble. Ami would give me no added particulars to the scene that the shape in the corner does not reappear in his tail as a moving object. There are things which cannot be mentioned. And what is done in common humanity sometimes cruelly judged by the law i gathered the no moving thing was left in that attic room and that to leave anything capable of motion there would have been indeed so monstrous as too damn any accountable being attornal torment. Anyone but a stolid farmer would have fainted or gone mad. But ami walked conscious through that low doorway and locked the accursed secret behind him. There would be named to deal with now. You must be fed intended and removed to someplace where he could be cared for. Commencing is descent of dark stairs. Ami heard a thud below him he even thought a scream had been suddenly choked off and recalled nervously the clammy vapor which had brushed by him and that frightful room above. What presence had his cry. An entry started up halted by some vague fear. He heard still further sounds below indubitably. There was a sort of heavy dragging and most detestably sticky noise as of some fiendish uncleaned species of suction with an associated sense goto feverish heights. He thought unaccountably of what he had seen upstairs. Good god what eldridge dreamworld was this into which he had blundered. He dared move neither backward nor forward but stood there trembling at the black curve of the boxton staircase. Every trifle of the scene burned itself into his brain. Sounds the sense of dread expectancy the darkness steepness of the narrow steps and merciful haven't faint but unmistakable luminosity of all the work incite steps sides expose laughs and beans alike then burst forth a frantic winning from ami's horse outside followed at once my clatter which told of a frenzied runaway in another moment horse and buggy had gone beyond earshot leaving the frightened man. I'm the dark stairs to guess what had sent them but that was not all there had been another sound out there. A sort of liquid splash water. It must have been the well. You'd left hero untied near it. And a buggy wheel must have brushed the coping and knocked in a stone and still the pale phosphine essence glowed in that detestably ancient woodwork. God old the house was most of it. Built before sixteen. Seventy and the gambro roof not later than seventeen. Thirty people scratching on the floor downstairs now sounded distinctly and ami's grip tightened on a heavy stick. He had picked up in the attic for some purpose slowly serving himself. He finished his descent and walked boldly toward the kitchen but he did not complete the walk because what he saw was no longer there. It had come to meet him and it was still alive after fashion whether it had crawled or whether it had been dragged by any external force ami could not say but the death had been added. Everything happened in the last half hour. The collapse graying and disintegration were already far advanced. It was a horrible brittleness and dry fragments. Were scaling off. Ami could not touch it but looked horrifyingly into the distorted parody. That had been a face. What was it. What was it he whispered. And the cleft bulging lips were just able to crackle out a final answer. Nothing color burns cold and wet but it burns lived in the well. I seen it a kind of smoke just like the flowers. Last spring else shown at night fad and murnian zina's have alive sucking the life out of everything in that stole. It must have come in that stole highs in the whole place. Don't know what it wants around thing that men from the college dugout out in the stone. They smashed it. was that same color. Just the same like a flowers and plants must have been more of seeds seeds growed. I seen the first time this week. Plus the got strong on venus. It was a big boy. Full of life beats down your mind and then gets you burns you up in the wellwater. It was right about that. He will water genus. Never come back from the while. Can't get away draws you. You know somebody that's coming taint no use. I seen time and again. Since zina's was took wires. Naby heads no good. No how long since fedor. That'll get her if we ain't careful just color. Her face is getting to have that color. Sometimes towards night earns and sucks. They come from some place where things eight is is year one of them. Professors said so. He was right lookout ami he'll do something more sucks the life out. That was all at which spoke. Could speak no more because of it completely caved in ami later red checked tablecloth over what was left and reeled out the back door into the fields. Climbed the slope to the ten acre pasture and stumbled home by the north road in the woods could not pass that well from which horses run away. He had looked at it through the window. And it seemed that no stone was missing from the rim and the lurching dougie not dislodged. Anything after all the splash had been something else something which went into the well after it had done with poor neom when reached his house. The horse and buggy arrived before him thrown his wife into fits of anxiety reassuring her without explanations he said at once for arkham notified the authorities. That the gardner family was no more. He indulged shenault details but merely told the deaths of naham and naby that fattest ready being known and mentioned that the causes seem to be the same strange ailment which had killed the livestock. he also stated that merwin and zina's have disappeared. There was considerable questioning at the police station. And in the end. Ami was compelled to take three officers to the gardner farm together with the coroner the medical examiner and the veterinary who had treated the diseased animals. He went much against his will. The afternoon was advancing and he feared the fall of night over that occurs place. It was some comfort to have so many people with him. The six men drove out in a democrat wagon. Following ami's buggy arrived at the pest ridden farmhouse about four o'clock used as the officers word gruesome experiences not one remained unmoved at what was found in the attic and under the red checked tablecloth on the floor below the whole aspect of the farm with its great. Desolation was terrible enough but those two crumbling objects were beyond all bounds. No one could look long at them and even the medical examiner admitted that there was very little to examine specimens could be analyzed of course so he busied himself in obtaining them and here it develops that a very puzzling aftermath occurred at the college laboratory. Where the two files of dusk. We're finally taken under the spectroscopy. Both samples gave off an unknown spectrum. In which many of the baffling bands were precisely like those which the strange media had yielded in the previous year. Property of emitting the spectrum vanished in a month the dust thereafter consisting mainly of alkaline. False and carbonates. Ami would not have told the men about the well if he had thought they meant do anything then in there it was getting toward sunset and he was anxious to be away but he could not help glancing nervously at the stony curb by the great sweep and when a detective questioned him. He admitted that name had feared something down there so much so that he had never even thought of searching it from our winter. Zina's after that nothing would do but that they empty and explore the well immediately. So ami had to wait trembling while pale after paella rank water was hauled up and splashed the soaking ground outside. The men sniffed and disgust at the fluid and toward the last held their noses against the feeder. They were uncovering was not so long job as they had feared it would be since the water was phenomenally low. There's no need to speak to exactly what they found. Merwin zina's were both there in part though. The vestiges were mainly. Skeletal will also a small deer and large dog in about the same state. And the number of bones of smaller animals the ooze and slime at the bottom seemed inexplicably porous and bubbling and man who descended on handholds with long poll found that he could sink the wooden shaft to any depth in the mud of the floor without meeting any solid obstruction. Quiet had now fallen lanterns were brought from the house then when it was seen that nothing further could be gained from the well. Everyone went indoors and conferred in the ancient sitting room. While the intermittent light of a spectral half moon played one lee on the grey desolation outside the men were frankly nonplussed by the entire case and could find no convincing common element to link the strange vegetable conditions the unknown disease of livestock and humans and the unaccountable deaths of marijuana and in the tainted well they had heard the common country talk. It is true but could not believe that anything. Contrary to natural law had occurred no doubt the meteor had poisoned the soil. At the illness persons animals would eat nothing. Grown in that soil was another matter. Was it the well water very possibly. It might be a good idea to analyze it. What peculiar madness could have made. Both boys jump into the well. Their deeds were so similar and fragments showed that they had both suffered from the grave riddle. Death i was everything. So grey and griddle. The coroner seated near a window overlooking the yard who i noticed glow about the well night had fully set in and all the abhorrent ground seemed faintly luminous with more than the fitful moonbeams but this new glow was something definite and distinct and appeared to shoot up from the black pit like a softened ray from a searchlight giving reflections in ground pools where the water had been emptied. It had a very queer collar. And there's all. The men clustered around the window. Ami gave a violent start for this strange beam of ghastly. My asthma was to him of no unfamiliar hugh. He had seen that color before and feared to think what it might mean. He had seen it in the nasty brittle globule in the air. Light two summers ago seen it and the crazy vegetation of the springtime and then thought he had seen it for an instant that barry morning against the small barred window of that terrible attic room were nameless. Things had happened. It didn't flash their a second and a clammy and hateful current of vapor at brushed past him and then pour nam had been taken by something of that color it said so at the last said it was the globule plants after that had come the runaway in the yard and splash in the well and now that well was belching forth to the night a pale in city as being of the same demoniac tint it does credit to the alertness of ami's mind that he puzzled even at that tense moment over point which was essentially scientific. He could not but wonder at his gleaning. The same impression from vapor glimpsed in the daytime against a window opening on the morning sky and from a nocturnal exultation seen as a phosphorus and missed against the black and blasted landscape. It wasn't right was against and he thought of those terrible. Last words of a stricken friend it come from some place where things eight as. They is here one of them. Professors said so all three horses outside tied to a pair of shriveled saplings. By the road where now naming and pawing frantically wagon drivers started for the door to do something but emulate a shaky hand on his shoulder. Don't go out there. He whispered his more to this more. What we know name said lived in the well. That sucks your life out. He said it must be summit growed from around ball like one. We all seen in the meteors stone that fell a year ago. June sucks and burns. He said in his just a cloud of color. Like that light out there. Now that you can hardly see and can't tell what it is name thought it feeds on every in living in to get stronger all the time. He said he seen. It is last week. It must be something from a way off in sky like the men from the college. Last year says the meteor stone was the way it's made way. It works eight like noel. God's world it's summit from beyond the men paused indecisively as the light from the well grew stronger and the hitched horses pod and winning and increasing frenzy. It was truly an awful moment with terror in that ancient and occurs house itself for munster sets of fragments to from the house in two from the well in the woodshed behind and that shaft of unknown and unholy from the slimy depths in front and he had restrained the driver on impulse forgetting how uninjured himself was after the clammy brushing of that colored vapor in the attic room but perhaps it is just as well that he acted as he did. No one will ever know what was abroad that night and though the blasphemy from beyond had not so far heard any human of unweakened mind. There is no telling what it might not have done at that last moment and with its seemingly increased strength and the special signs of purpose it was soon to display beneath the half clouded moonlit sky all at once one of the detectives at the window gave a short sharp gasp. The others looked at him and then quickly followed his own gaze upward to the point at which its idle. Straying had been suddenly arrested. It was no need for words. What had been disputed in country. Gossip was disputable no longer and it is because of the thing which every man of that party agreed whispering later on that the strange days are never talked about in arkham. It is necessary to premise. That there was no wind that hour of the evening one did arise not long afterward but there was absolutely none then. Even the dry tips of lingering hedge mustard grey and blighted and the fringe on the roof of the standing democrat wagon where unstirred and yet amidst that tents godless calm the high bare boughs of all the trees in the yard were moving. They were twitching. Morbidly in spasmodically clawing convulsive epileptic madness at the moonlit clouds scratching impotently in the noxious air as if jerked by some alien body lewis line of linkage with subterranean horrors and struggling below. The black roots. Not a man breathe for several seconds. Cloud of docker depth passed over the moon and the silhouette of clutching branches faded out momentarily. That this there was a general cry. Muffled with all but husky almost identical from every throat for the terror had not faded with a silhouette and then a some instant of deeper darkness watchers saw wriggling that treetop height at thousand tiny points a faint and on hallowed radiance tipping each bow like the fire of saint elmo or the flames that came down on the apostles heads at pentecost. It was a monstrous constellation of unnatural. Light like glutted swarm of corpse fed. Firefly's dancing hellish. Sarah bans over an accursed marsh. And its color. Was that same. Nameless intrusion which ami had come to recognize dread all the while the shaft to fos forescent from the well was getting brighter and brighter bringing to the minds of the huddled men a sense of doom an abnormality which far outraced any image conscious minds could form. It was no longer shining out. It was pouring out. And as the shapeless stream of unplayable collar left the well it seemed flow directly into the sky the veterinary shivered and walk to the front door. To drop the heavy extra bar across it emmy shook no less and had to tug and point for lack of a controllable voice when he wished to draw notice to the growing luminosity of the trees the naming and stamping of the horses have become utterly frightful but not a soul of that group in the old house would've ventured forth for any earthly reward with the moments the shining of the trees increased while they're restless branches seemed to strain more and more toward verticality. The wood of the well sweep was shining now and presently. A policeman dumbly pointed to some wooden sheds and beehives near the stonewall on the west they were commencing to shine to the tethered vehicles. Visitor seem so far unaffected than there was a wild commotion in clopping in the road and does emmy quench the lamp for better seeing they realized that the span of frantic grays broke the sapling and run off with the democrat wagon. The shock served loosened several tongues and embarrassed. Whispers were exchanged. It spreads on everything organic. That's been around here muttered the medical examiner. No one replied but the man who had been in the well gave a hint that his long poem must have stirred up something. Intangible it was awful. It was no bottom at all. Just lose bubbles in the feeling of something lurking under their ami's horse still pawed and screen deafeningly road outside and nearly drown. Its owners faint. Quaver as he mumbled his formless reflections. Come from that stone. Grow down our got everything. Living fed itself on a mind and body fat and mirny zina's naby name was the last all drunk. Water got strong. Come from beyond where things ain't like they be ear now. It's going home at this. Point is the column of unknown. Colour flared suddenly stronger and began to. We've itself into fantastic suggestions of shape which eats spectator later described differently. The came from poor hero. Such a sound sounds no man before since ever heard from a horse every person in that low pitch sitting room stopped his ears and ami turned away from the window in horror and nausea. Words could not convey it when ami looked out again hapless veasley huddled inert on the moonlit ground between the splintered shafts of the buggy. That was the last hero till they buried him next day. But the present was no time to mourn for almost this instance detective silently called attention to something terrible in the very rural with them in the absence of the lamp light. It was clear that a faint posture essence had begun to pervade the entire apartment it glowed the broad plank floor and the fragment rag carpet and shimmered over. The sashes of the small paned windows ran up and down the corner posts corus skated above the shelf and mantel and infected the very doors and furniture minutesof strengthened and it lasts was very playing that healthy. Living things must leave that house and he showed them the back door. The path up through the fields to the ten acre pasture it walked in stumbled as an agreem- and did not dare look back till they were far away on the high ground. They were glad if the path they could not have gone front way by that well was bad enough passing the glowing barn and sheds and the shining orchard trees with a gnarled fiendish contours but thank heaven the branches to their worse twisting high up. The moon went under some very black clouds and crossed the rustic bridge over chapman's brooke and it was blind groping from there to the open meadows when they looked back toward the valley in the distant gardner place. At the bottom they saw fearsome site all the farm was shining with a hideous unknown blend of color trees buildings and even such grass and herb aeges had not been wholly change to lethal gray brittleness straining skyward tipped with tongues of foul flame and landman trickling of the same monstrous fire were creeping about the ridge at the house barn and sheds it was a scene from a vision of few zahlee and overall the rest rain that ride luminous amorphous nece that alien under mentioned rainbow of cryptic poison from the well seething feeling lapping reaching scintillating straining and malignly bubbling. It's cosmic and chrome. Addison then without warning the hideous thing up toward the sky like a rocket or meteor leaving behind no trail disappearing through around and curiously regular hole in the clouds before any man could gas cry out. No watcher can never forget that sight. Ami stared blankly at the stars of cygnus then twinkling above the others were the unknown caller had melted into the milky way but his gaze was the next moment called swiftly to earth by the crackling lavallee was just that only a wooden ripping and crackling. Not an explosion of so many others of the party vowed at the outcome was the same for in one feverish. Kaleidoscopic instant there burst up from that doomed and accursed farm a gleaming eruptive cataclysm of unnatural sparks and substance blurring the glance of the few who saw it and sending forth to zinatha the bombarding cloudbursts of such colored and pen tastic fragments. As our universe must needs disown through quickly reclosing vapors they followed the great morbidity that had vanished and then another second day advantage to behind and below was only darkness to which the men dared not return and all about was a mounting win which seemed to sweep down in black for gusts from interstellar space it shrieked and how old and lashed the fields and distorted woods in a mad cosmic frenzy. He'll soon trembling party. Realized it would be no use waiting for the moon to show what was left down there at names who ought even to hint theories the seven shaking. Men trudged back toward arkham by the north road. Addy was worse than his fellow and begged them to see him inside his own kitchen. Instead of keeping straight onto town he did not wish to cross the knighted. Wind-whipped woods alone to his home on the main road for he had had an added shock that the others were spared and was crushed forever with a brooding fear. He dared not even mention for many years to come as the rest of the watchers on that tempestuous hill at stolidly set their faces toward the road ami had looked back and instant of the shadowed valley of desolation so lately sheltering his ill-starred friend and from that stricken faraway spot. He had seen something feebly rise only to sink down again upon the place from which the great shapeless horror had shot into. The sky was just a collar but not any color of our earth. Heavens and because ami recognized that color and knew that this last faint must still lurk down there in the well he has never been quite right since and he would never go near the place again. It is over half a century now since the horror happened but he has never been there and we'll be glad when the new reservoir lots it out. I should be glad to. Brad do not like the way. The sunlight changed color around the mouth of that abandoned well passed. I hope the water will always be very deep. But even so. I shall never drink it. I do not think. I shall visit the arkham country hereafter three of the men. Who had been with ami returns the next morning to see the ruins by daylight but there were not any real ruins only the bricks of the chimney stones of the seller some mineral and metallic litter here and there and the rim of that as well safer emmys dead horse which towed away and buried and the buggy which they short. They returned to him. Everything that had ever been living had gone high eld rich acres of dusty grey desert remained nor is anything ever grown there since to this day. It sprawls open to the sky like a great spot eaten by acid in the woods and fields and the few who have ever dared glimpse it in spite of the rural tales have named it. The blasted heath the rural tales or queer might even queer clearer of city. Man in college chemists could be interested enough to analyze the water from that disused well or the grey dust that no no-win seems ever to disperse botanists to to study the stunted floor on the borders of that spot for they might shed light on. The country notion that the blight spreading little by little wraps an inch year. People say the color of the neighboring Is not quite right in the spring and then wild things leave queer prints in the light winter. Snow snow never seems quite so heavy on the blasted heath as it is elsewhere horses. The few that are left in this motor age gross skittish and the silent valley and hunters cannot depend on their dogs to near the splotch of greyish dust say the mental influences are very bad to numbers went queer in the years names taking and always they lack the power to get away then the stronger minded folk all left the region and only the foreigners tried to live in a crumbling old homesteads. It could not stay though and one sometimes wonders what inside beyond hours. They're wild weird stores of whispered magic have given them their dreams at night. They protest very horrible in that grotesque country and surely very look the dark realm is enough to stir. Morbid fancy traveler has ever escaped a sense of strangeness in those deep ravines and artists chivalrous paint thick woods whose mysteries as much of the spirit of the i i myself am curious about the sensation. I derived from my one alone walk before ami told me his tail. When twilight came. I had vaguely wished some clouds would gather for an odd community about the deep sky. Voids above it crept into my soul. Do not ask me for my opinion. I do not know that is all there was no one but i made a question for our people will not talk about the strange days and all three professors who saw the light and has colored globular dead. And we're other globules dependent upon that when must've fed itself and escaped and probably there was another which was too late. No doubt it is still down the well. I know there was something wrong. With the sunlight. I saw above that my asthma brink rustic say the blight creeps in she year. So perhaps there is a kind of growth are nourishment even now. Whatever demon hatchlings there. It must be tethered to something. Where else would quickly spread is it fastened to the roots of those trees that claw the air. One of the current arkham tales is about fat. Oaks that shine and move as they ought not to do at night. What it is. Only god knows in terms of matter. I suppose the thing ami described would be called a gas. This gas obeyed laws. That are not of our cosmos. This was no fruit of such worlds and suns shine on the telescopes and photographic plates of our observatories is was no breath from the skies whose motions and dimensions are astronomers measure or deemed too vast to measure it was just a colorado space prideful messenger from unformed realms of infinity beyond all nature as we know it from realms whose mere existence stuns the brain and numbs us with the black extra cosmic gulfs throws open before a frenzied is. I doubt very much of ami consciously lied to me. And i do not think. His tail was all freak of madness as the townsfolk had forewarned. Something came to the hills and valleys on that meteor. And something terrible though. I know not. In what proportion still remains. I should be glad to see the water come. Meanwhile i hope nothing will happen to ami he saw so much of the thing and its influence was so insidious why has he never been able to move away how clearly he recalled those dying words of names and get away draw z. O. summits common but taint no use. Hemi is such a good old man. On the reservoir gang gets to work. I must write the chief engineer to keep sharp watch on him. I would hate to think of him as the grey twisted brittle monstrosity which persists more and more and troubling my sleep.

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#EERS S9 Ep89: Playing the Hydroxychloroquine Outrage Game Again

The Erick Erickson Show

2:01:36 hr | 1 year ago

#EERS S9 Ep89: Playing the Hydroxychloroquine Outrage Game Again

"Hello and welcome it. Is Eric Erickson here? This Tuesday I feel obligated to keep telling us what day it is just in case you don't know it is six after the hour. The full number here is eight. Seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I suspect I should probably get into the call screening program here just so I can answer your phone calls. Should any of you dare call? You are allowed to I. We obviously have to get into the al Qaeda situation. We haven't heard al Qaeda in a while we also need to get into the hydroxy clerk win situation with president but before we do any of that Some some sad news this morning Ravi Zacharias has passed. Let me read you. Some of his obituary from His ministry outlet when Ravi Zacharias was a cricket loving boy on the streets of India. His mother called him to meet the local sorry seller palm reader looking at your future. Ravi Baba you will not travel far or very much in your life he declared. That's what the lines on your hand. Tell me there is no future for you abroad by the time. Thirty seven year old Zachariah preached at the invitation of Billy Graham to the inaugural international conference for Itinerant Evangelists in Amsterdam. Nineteen eighty three. He was on his way to becoming one of the foremost defenders of Christianity's intellectual credibility. A year later he founded Ravi Zacharias International Ministries with the mission of helping the thinker. Believe in the believer. Think in the time between the sorry sellers prediction and the Founding Navarre's the IM ZACHARIAH had immigrated to Canada. Taking the Gospel across North America preach with military prisoners in Vietnam and minister students in Cambodia on the brink of collapse he had also undertaken a gospel preaching trip as a newly licensed minister with the Christian and Missionary Alliance along with his wife. Margie and eldest daughter Sarah. The trip started in England worked eastward through Europe and the Middle East and finished on the Pacific Rim all in all that year Zachariah frequently six hundred times in over a dozen countries. It was the culmination of a remarkable transformations emotional Zachariah recovering an Adelie hospital from a suicide attempt. At Age. Seventeen was read the words of Jesus recorded in the Bible by the Apostle John. Because I live you also will live. Response Zachariah surrendered his life to Christ and offered a prayer that if he emerged from the hospital he would leave no stone unturned in his pursuit of truth. Once Zach Rice found the truth of the Gospel his passion for sharing. It burn bright until the very end even as he returned home from the hospital in Texas where he had been undergoing chemotherapy. Sacrifice was sure the hope of Jesus to the three nurses who took him into his transport. Frederick Anthony Ravioli Kumar. Zachariah was born in Madras Nelson. I in one thousand nine hundred forty six in the shadow of the Resting Place of the Apostle Thomas known to the world is the doubter but Zachariah says the great questioners crisis affinity for Thomas Mann. He was always more in the questioner than the question. Itself is mother. Isabella was a teacher. His Father Oscar who was studying labor relations at the University of Nottingham in England when Zachariah was born rose to the ranks of the Indian civil service throughout sacrifices adolescence. An unremarkable student Zachariah says more interested in cricket than books until his encounter with the Gospel Gospel in that hospital bed. Nevertheless a bold radical faith randomness genes in the Indian state of Kerala. His paternal great grandfather and grandfather produced the twentieth century's first Malay- Elim English dictionary. The dictionary serve as the cornerstone of the first Malayan translation of the Bible. Further back has great great shocked her. Name Voodoo Uri family. The highest cast of the Hindu priesthood stood by converting to Christianity with conversion came. A new surname Zachariah said a new path that started her descendants on a road to Christian. Faith rest in Peace Ravi Zacharias We were actually supposed to get together. he he and his wife wanted to take my me and my wife to dinner and it never worked out and we'll meet again one day but What what a what a fantastic man. smeared several years ago smeared by someone claiming. He had engage inappropriate relationships. No truth to the matter but it was magnified and blown up by liberal. Press out to get the man But Man What a what. A fantastic person. What a what. A great great man who lives so many people to Christ I did not expect the The start the show with that today but my goodness I just if you've never seen or read you read the real face of atheism that is Ravi. Zachariah says A book I see my friend. Andrew Walker mentioned it this morning Zachariah was just a a wonderful human being who love the Lord and he will deeply deeply dearly missed by a lot of us who he ministered to knowingly or unknowingly over the years Just a good good man. Now we do need to move onto the headlines of the day And I will take your phone calls. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five of the program this morning sponsored by First Liberty Building and loan in Noonan If you need help getting into the program I do highly encourage you to reach out to first liberty building and loan The reason why. The Frost family has been helping small and mid sized businesses since the early nineteen nineties. It is their specialty. They don't work directly with individuals. They work with businesses. And if your business needs access to capital and needs to grow they can help you but more importantly if your business needs to get into the PEOP- program they can help you. 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There was some of it that I figured it was worth playing Including the president's own words but by and large the media. Discussion of this is incomplete outrage over the president saying anything about it in and recognize. He did it in some. I gotta be real honest with you. Part of me wonders if I really honest about it. Part of me wonders. If the president really is actually taking Roxie chloroquine and the reason I say this and I realized as doctors come up with the defendant him but it just. It sounded very much to to me that it was just the president Responding to the media throwing some in you know he does this. Sometimes he throw stuff out like this to get the media off a direction. He's learning now in the virus. How To control the media response? It took the president long time to be relearn how to steer the media in in particular directions and And now I think he's figured out with a structure Clark when stuff. People don't want to write the news but if you look but he's the one that signed the application the very important form. He signed it now. If he doesn't believe it why would he sign it and a lot of good things have come out about the hydroxy? A lot of good things have come out. You'd be surprised. At how many people are taking it especially the front line workers before you catch it. The frontline workers many many are taking it. I happened to be taken it. I happen to be taken it hydroxy right now. Couple of weeks ago started taking it. Because I think it's a lot of good stories and if it's not good I'll tell you right dot going to get hurt by it. It's been around for forty years from malaria for Lupus for other things I take it. Frontline workers take a lot of doctors. Take excuse me a lot of doctors take it. I take it now. I hope to not be able to take it soon because you know. I hope they come up with some answer but I think people should be allowed to listen. I I take it Listen I I. I don't know whether the president's taken it or not but the media meltdown on this there really was no reason for me to to play a ton of audio of people. There's there's only one that I wanNA play. This is to give you a sense of how the media is responding to this. This is CNN's treatment of the matter is an and trump is taking questions at the White House. He just mentioned that he is taking hydroxy. Chloroquine the medication. The president has promoted in the passes a potential treatment for corona virus though the FDA says that you shouldn't take it Outside of a clinical trial the hospital and other studies have shown that doesn't work on corona virus the NIH has also issued warnings about using the drug for corona virus patients. I WANNA bring in Jeremy Diamond joining me now. Jeremy What exactly did president trump saying. He's he's taking drexel clerk win. Yeah Jake President trump has repeatedly touted this drug. But he just announced a moments ago for the first time that he himself has actually been taking hydroxy chloroquine for the last week and a half and the president says that he's taking it essentially as a prophylaxis to try and prevent getting the disease in the future despite the fact that there is so far no substantive medical evidence to back up the fact that it works not only as a treatment but all the more as a prophylaxis. Listen to what the president said just a few moments ago. It's been around for forty years from malaria for Lupus for other things I take it. Frontline workers take a lot of doctors. Take excuse me a lot of doctors take it. I take it and Jake just. We should note there as you were saying at the top no studies so far have shown that this is an effective treatment against corona virus. In fact there was a pretty significant study that showed that there was no effect on mortality or on the duration of a patient. Stay in the same way that we have seen with the drug rimmed severe but President trump certainly putting his money where his mouth is with this the question though Jake is what effect is this. GonNa have on the general population. What are people going to think when they see that president trump president of the United States is taking this drug despite the fact that he does not have any proven medical benefits? Will Americans then WANNA take themselves? That certainly is a big question here. Jake and again We do know that this drug has significant side effects including a potential heart issues for people so Certainly something that could be concerning. Listen the world is full of stupid people. We should acknowledge the world is full of stupid people. There's there's nothing mean eight. As a statement of fact truth is not mean. Truth is truth and the world is full of stupid people who justice the president said that Possibly we need to find ways to get Disinfected into people There were media stories other that people. Admittedly a media exaggerated stories about people trying to adjust clorox and the like but there are stupid people out there and so I understand the media concern about the president of the United States touting to Drexel clerk when when the studies are actually mixed there are several studies out there that are small studies that show that drexel clerk when gives some benefit of taking early. There are other studies out there That show that there is no benefit regardless of wind taken the studies are mixed the FDA right now suggests not taking it except in clinical situations. Hostile situations you know. I've got an agent in radio and he was in the hospital and They gave him a drexel or quit and he began to recover after they thought it was lights out for him. So he's a believer chloroquine and I know plenty of other people who are but anecdote is not data in the data really is mix and it depends on who you are depends when you get it. It depends on the dosage you get. There are all sorts of things there and eight can't prevent you from getting the virus. You're better off taking a zinc supplement. than you are to take drastic. Laura quit if you don't WanNa get the virus and and the the by the research zinc is dubious as well except it does appear to present as a milder case when you get viruses like the cold or the flu if you've got zinc in your system because of the way it impacts the virus absorption into cells but here's the thing y'all there's no reason to dwell on this for very long time. This is just the bottom line for years. We have been told not to get between a woman and her doctor's decision to murder a baby who am I to get between a man and his doctors decision to take a pill. If I can't get between the one. Why should any of us be allowed to get between the other two books by Ravi Zachariah? So that I recommend if you've never read Jesus among other gods and the real face of atheism and both of them are really good books. If you WANNA basic understanding of his ministry to to eighth and people in the east he was a just a brilliant evangelist Now a few more things on the president's drugs clerk win situation I I the media you know the President I think has finally figured it. Out One of the the remarkable things about the president's A inability his superpower has always been. Well he's got two superpowers president and I Yeah they are super. They were remarkable abilities of this president. One is the ability to make other people reveal themselves to be as bad as they claim. The president is the meditate on that one for a moment there are so many people who believe the president is you know. There's there's no reason to even delve into the the they all the things they claim the president is and the president has this unique superpower to make other people behave in whatever way. They claim he bathes. The president has the Subaru. It makes other people act in ways. They claim the president axe the other superpower that this president has or had is the ability to steer the national conversation in particular directions and when this virus reared its head domestically the president could not. I mean think about all the new cycle we had last year. I mean all the way up to killing Qassim Sulejmani All all of the beginning of this year with Iran Situation. We had all of these situations and every week. There was a new one every week. It changed every week. It every shifted and then the virus reared its head of the end of January. And it has been wall-to-wall nonstop. Iris even overshadowing me at the end impeachment. Which by the way impeachment was another news cycle and just gone. We've been in this nonstop news cycle about the about the covert one thousand nine cents really mid February and really in March and it hasn't shifted seems like every day that's all we can talk about and I've been struggling trying to find other things to talk about and the president has had this unique gift Sometimes you used it badly where he could send the media often rap in all sorts of directions if you will recall two years ago at the State of the Union address. He did it again last year but it was really two years ago it most powerful the president had a family in the gallery of the state of the Union and he began a lengthy dissertation on the ills of Ms Thirteen. The gang and the media was forced finally to recognize that it was a real problem and the president actually there was merit to his argument and there were areas of this country where the gang was infiltrating and local authorities seemed helpless to the gang and Yelp there were issues where we needed to Crackdown DOWN ON IMMIGRATION. The President delivered that. I WanNa stay on a Monday night. Maybe Tuesday night in by Thursday win on a media when went on twitter tirade in attack against someone in the media. I can't remember who was at the time but the media had spit the entire week talking about immense thirteen and they were going to the Sunday shows. We're going to continue coverage of the President's Day the Union address because it had become such a big issue. The president had done a good job. The Democrats were on defense and the president went on twitter tirade against someone in the media and by Sunday it was all gone now state of the union or largely meaningless anyway and they always go away by you know. This was one of my frustrations when I was in the media when I was on. Tv and on CNN You would gear up all this coverage of Whatever it was you'd gear up this this massive coverage of the state of the Union You would all go to New York or Washington all on a set you'd have twenty people on CNN discussing the state of the Union and By three within a week we all moved on every all. This is monumental. This is GonNa Change the course of the president. This is going to change the course of everything and then by the end of the week you moved onto something else and this president has stepped on himself repeatedly but he has this unique superpower where he can redirect the media trajectory in the stories they cover and how they cover him and what they're covering and he has always been able to use that to his advantage when he uses it wisely But of late. He's been unable to do that of late. The media has just fixated on the virus. They haven't shifted to other stories. And I I my gut feeling. Is that the president is not actually on her drugs. Clark would he is just finally realized he can direct the media narrative directions. He wants to go and proof of it is when I use a service that cuts up media audio clips and like the top ten clips. Were all about last night in. The president talked about a director. Gordon and I don't know that actually helps the President I. I don't know that it actually does. But the fact that he is relearning how to direct. The media's coverage of things I think is going to be useful skill moving forward the the Obama Gate situation other one. How you got Margaret Sullivan at the wash. Right WE'RE GONNA turn this Hillary Service please media. Don't go down this road it only helps trump. Yes you're right. It does help trump. And yes you're right. The media is going to go down that road y because the president has refigure out how to get the media to go and directions he wants and that's going to help him and hurt Joe Biden in the run up to the campaign. I found it I found it. It's worth reading here Margaret Sullivan. The media is helping trump turned the bogus Obama Gate into the twenty twenty version of Clinton's emails. It's becoming clear that journalists never fully reckoned with the mistakes of the two thousand sixteen campaign coverage we know this because Donald Trump got elected shit. Ouch she doesn't write that but that's what she means. We know this because they seem poised to repeat them as you may recall the news media from Fox News. The New York Times and plenty of others across the political spectrum manage to make the relative molehill of Hillary Clinton's dicey email practices into a daily obsession roughly equal to the mountain of Donald Trump's financial and personal transgressions. Well don't look now but this has happened again before. Is Its name this time is Obama Gate. That's a moniker. That in president trump's outraged tweets is rendered in capital letters. But let's not. This vaporous apparently made up offense. According to trump is the political crime of the century and heck last injury to because he claimed that it makes the nineteen seventies Watergate scandal. Look like child's play as best as he's ever attempted even attempted to spell out supposedly involves the deep state conspiracy by the former president and his allies to undermine trump by being informed of the identity of the private citizen having covert and legally questionable discussions with the Russian ambassador citizen who turns out to be trump's national security advisor designate. Michael Flynn despite the fact that this practice legal normal the non scandal around us getting plenty of attention on Chris. Wallace is Sunday morning. Interview show usually an island of relative sanity in the hyper partisan pro-trump world the Fox News a bottom screen cry on red is Obama Gate an effective campaign strategy and trump water-carrier Karl Rove was allowed to a pine that there were some very serious questions that need to be answered. It does stink. One Williams the networks designated left-leaning contrarian tried to pour water on the nonsense. There is no Obama Gate. He said bluntly declaring trump's blather a smokescreen to distract from his disastrous handling the pandemic. Still the conversation about the non scandal went on for about seven minutes on this popular show at the nation's most watched cable network nor was it ignored on meet the press. We're host Chuck Todd. While acknowledging the subjects ultimate emptiness kicked around its potential political fallout for a while with White House correspondent Peter Alexander and others and CBS News. Catherine Herridge has been heavily. Hyping her updates on the non-story scoop. She declared on twitter to herald her story. That acting director of National Intelligence. Richard Grenell had notified Congress about the great unmasking. Cvs is hiring of Herridge. Vox News last. Year was sharply criticized by liberals who recalled her persistent reporting on the Clinton email debacle and on debunked allegations that the former secretary of state personally approved the diminishment of security at the Benghazi compound in Libya. Before the two thousand twelve attack there. So let's just say that. Obama Gate is getting plenty of attention across the media spectrum even if it's filtered through the Lens of whether it will matter to swing state voters but it does. So this is this. Is the the ridiculous thing here with Margaret Sullivan? Piecing you're hearing more of this to the media is that please don't talk about this thing that we don't like but when the president of the United States starts talking about it it's kind of hard to ignore it can. We not agree with that. I mean with the president of the United States is out there constantly doing this. The media has a hard time avoiding it. I mean the the media itself would look responsible if the president is talking about this. They don't need even if they're doing it to dismiss this report. She doesn't want to talk about it at all and by the way it will. It have an impact savers. I actually don't think it will. I actually don't think the Obama Gate stuff matters to most people in the same way. Hillary Clinton's email situation did not matter to most people. There were not a bunch of swing voters out there. Who said you know what I'm not GonNa vote for Hillary Clinton because of her incompetence on email or on Benghazi frankly swing voters didn't vote for Hillary Clinton because they genuinely didn't like her in general I mean that's the thing I think. A lot of Republicans missed. Listen just because you hated Hillary Clinton and thought the email scandal was proof that she thought she was above. The law doesn't mean that a bunch of swing voters who hated. Hillary Clinton also voted against her for that no. They voted against her because they didn't like her. They never liked her. And she was a terrible campaigner and she didn't go to swing states that she needed to go to. It had nothing to do with the email server. Benghazi an easy you know in the Echo Chamber of the right where I live. People get spun up on store to stuff and it doesn't really matter you think it matters because you and all of your right leaning friends all talk about it as if it matters but you're never going to vote for Hillary Clinton anyway in the same way on the left hydroxy chloroquine. Does it matter on the left right. Now they're spun up about her drugs chloroquine and the president taking hydroxy chloroquine and the president shouldn't take drugs chloroquine and he's GonNa make stupid. People take drugs chloroquine and people on the left. This is a grave concern to them. They deeply care about this issue but no swing voter cares about the president and his doctor. I mean again after all for years we've been told you can't come between a woman and her doctor's decision to murder child you can't come between a man and his doctors decision. Take a pill. You just can't in sweet voters couldn't care less. You got to be able to navigate through the Echo Chamber to what it actually is reality on on the right. You're convinced that Obama Gate Matters. It doesn't on the left. You're convinced matters. It doesn't what matters is swing voters and right now. What matters to swing. Voters is the virus and the economic recovery and if the president can move beyond the virus to economic recovery that matters which is why so many people on the left are just adamantly convinced that the president should not be allowed to do this that the president should not be allowed to reopen the country by the way the dominant. I wrote about this this morning. And this is this is important. The the president of the United States. This morning I I'm sorry Not The president of the I wrote about this this morning with the president. Everything else. That's going on out there. The president of the United States and governors in the south are invested in the idea of reopening the government. Brian KIP yesterday. Had A call with the president where the president of the United States Commended him on reopening. And this comes on the heels of the president. Remember where. Where's the I save the audio just so we can hear it one more time. I told the governor of Georgia Brian Kemp that I disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase one guidelines for the incredible people of Georgia. They're incredible people. I love those people. They are great. They've been strong resolute but at the same time he must do what he thinks is right. I want him to do what he thinks is right but I disagree with him on what he's doing but I want to let the governor's do I see something totally agrees totally out of line. I'll do but I think spas and beauty salons tattoo parlors and barbershops in phase. One going to face to very soon is just too soon. I think it's too sir. That was what the president said. Then and now he is commending governor Kim for reopening. And you know what's happening when this virus if your regular listen to this program but in January and February. I was telling people that you needed to go on and stuck up. Take this seriously that maybe it wouldn't come here but if it did come here it was going to be problematic and you needed to take care you needed to stock up a you know. 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Thank you to Mrs Griffin's for your sponsorship as well an excellent barbecue sauce that you can get at the grocery store and stocked on the shelves at the Grocery store unlike so many other products. Why because they're local here in Georgia? They're a local business and their stock. The shelves themselves tell about the grocery stores and the governor wants to to reopen the economy. Now here in Georgia and short letting people get back out of their house and resume their lives and let the toilet paper flow back onto the shelves of the grocery stores and the president is now committed him. And there's this thing happening there are true. Thurs on the left. That have come out the truth. Irs on the left now believed Brian. Kemp is lying about the data over the weekend in Atlanta there was a spike of two hundred thirty one covert nineteen cases that disappeared. Where did it go? The left became convinced that Brian. Kemp is lying about the data. Though here's what happens. The state has now begun testing. Some people who thought they had cove nineteen But never got tested originally so they no longer have it in. They're being given the antibody test. The antibody test may or may not be accurate but returned positives and the testing facility that log. The data put it in the wrong column. They put it in the call of test positive. Covert Nineteen is opposed to anybody test positive and those are different things because the we're still sorting out whether or not the anybody test is actually accurate in the people who have it actually. Don't currently have it. So they're only in the positive tests there only put it in people who test positive for corona virus right now and so when they realise the mistake. They took those two hundred thirty one number that two hundred thirty one case out and it dropped the number of conspiracy. Brian Regan the numbers to make it. Look better than it is. It's really worse than this by thirty one in Florida. The same thing happened to the the woman. In charge of the data in Florida has been reassigned. She created a website that healthcare professionals around the nation have loved. The doctor burks at the White House has praised. The design of the State of Florida website. There's a problem it kept breaking in the data kept screwing up and so the woman developed his website. Everyone praised it but it kept screwing up. So they've reassigned her. So the media's now limit let me cover the story for. This is crazy Florida today has the story as Florida. Re-opens Cova nineteen data chief gets sidelined and researchers cry foul late last Friday? The architect manager Florida's Cova Nineteen Dashboard praised by the White House officials for it's accessibility until she had been removed from her post causing outcry from independent researchers now worried about government censorship. The Dashboard had been a one stop shop for researchers the media and the public to access and download tables of Cova nineteen cases testing and death data to analyze freely. It's been widely hailed as a shining example transparency accessibility but over the last few weeks. It has crashed and gone off line. Data has gone missing without explanation and access to the underlying. Data sheets has become increasingly difficult so last week. The woman who set it up was removed after the problem started and so now researchers. All of the left are crying foul. Let me read you buried at the bottom of the story. There is one key since one. He said it's buried does not even at the bottom. It's it's buried in about three quarters of the way down data access since she was fired or reassigned data access has not worsened further yet but researchers are sounding the alarm so the timeline woman creates website. Website is highly praised. Website begins breaking all the time data goes missing. She gets reassigned after all the starts happening. The data access hasn't worsened since she left. And now the everyone else. Oh the Florida Asia. Conspiracy noticed that the media is fundamental. They were invested a lot with a lot of concern myself included on pushing back on conservatives. Who said the data was wrong. There were so many conservatives who were lying about that. It's just the flu. How many times have you heard of just the flu? I'm sorry has the flu killed. Eighty thousand people in ten weeks ever know and so There are those of you out there yelling. It'd be right now but but but but but the date is all wrong. The rate how how. Many deaths are fraudulent. No one can give me an answer on this. How how many of the eighty five thousand people who've died or wrong? How many shouldn't have been on the list? No one can prevent it. Forty thousand well. If it's forty thousand at least forty five thousand people who've died in ten weeks of this virus which still makes it worse than the flu. Nobody can give me the accurate data. I can give you the data. Just can't make you believe it. But the writing Gatien these conspiracy theories people in the right myself included. Push back on it. We'll know the leftist is creating these conspiracy theories that Brian Kemp and Rhonda's Santa's or rigging the data as they reopened the states. They're downplaying the data. They're changing the data. A you know what what's so frustrating about it. Is that members of the media who were willing to push back on. Conservatives aren't willing to do it on the left because many in the media actually agree many people in the media actually believe that Brian Kemp Rhonda Santa's or painting rosy scenarios and they can't admit it because there's no evidence of it but they believe it so they're not willing to push back on the left. If you're not willing to push back a left wing data troopers like you were a right ring. Data Editors. You're not an intellectually honest person. You've got to be willing to push back on that. But they're not so it's left up to two people like me and it's really frustrating for two months. I A bunch of others. Were pushing back on right. Wing Data troopers who were aligned about the data Clayton fraudulent claiming. It was fake Clinton. It was exaggerated and now the left is doing the same that the data's fraud fraudulent the data's fate the data's exaggerated and it's not the data is the data. I can lead you to it. I can't make you take it. But the media that was so invested in pushing back on people. The right is willing to invest in people pushing back on the left. Part of that is members of the media really do believe the viruses going to rebound and reopened. It's dangerous but part of it and a growing part of it. Is that so? Many members of the media have institutionally invested in the idea that Brian that Donald trump is bad. Brian Kemp his bed. Ron Sentenced to better than they be. Beat that they can't afford to give them any credit and they can't afford to allow them to reopen their states because if they're states reopen and the economy rebounds that's going to help the president and above all else the media views. The president is more dangerous than the virus that he must be stopped more than the virus. If the president must be stopped more than the virus then the president can't be given credit for an economic rebound and the best way to stop the president for getting any credit for an economic rebound is to keep you sheltered in place by noreen the good news and focusing on the bad news. Hello there it is. You're here exit here. My mom texts me that I need to slow down so I will slow did Sometimes I get excited. The news is very excitable these days. Joe Biden Oh my goodness they. This is the this plays into the president's ends. Joe Biden on Tuesday released a three page summary of his medical history in which his doctors declared. He is a healthy vigorous seventy-seven-year-old fully capable of taking on the role of President Biden. Who has taken to challenging voters and reporters to push up contests and wrestling matches to demonstrate? His physical vigor has faced persistent questions during the campaign about his age and his mental acuity most prominently from President Trump. The summary indicates that Biden has been treated for several conditions including an irregular heartbeat. Gastro esophageal reflux and seasonal allergies. It was written by Kevin O'connor who is director of executive medicine at the George Washington medical faculty associates and was Biden's physician when he was vice. President wait wait wait where is it where is it edited it where where is it. Where is it hang on? It appears that they did not test his cognitive functions. The only test this is Olshansky. Who is Old Ski Steward? Olshansky a professor of Public Health at the University of Illinois Chicago who analyzes the Longitude. Lun Jeopardy not longitudinal longevity of president said that Biden's workout regime was a positive sign. The most important thing that I saw on there once you get into your seventies the one signal that is the strongest of all that tells you someone is exceptional is their ability to work out on a regular basis working out at least five days a week for someone his age if that's indeed true is remarkable. The only test that hasn't been done as the cognitive functioning test. Olshansky added but the fact that he's on the campaign trail in meeting a rigorous travel and meeting scheduled probably would suffice as a replacement for the formal test for cognitive function. He said the cognitive test are typically not required unless problems are detected. Have you not paid attention to Biden on the campaign trail? Have you not paying attention to this battle? He doesn't know where he is. I mean you tell bite. And he's on the campaign trail and he asks is the traditional with wish to share or it is the one with the EMINEM's not trail mix sure campaign trail. Oh to bite this no I I mean the man does not know listen say which Joe Biden Versus Guy. Not Trying to be insulting here but good gracious. The Joe Biden of twenty twenty is not the Joe Biden opponent. Sixteen the Donald Trump twenty twenty is the exact same donald trump that existed for years ago. The Joe Biden. If today is not the Joe Biden. Four years ago and only the Democrats. Try Not to pay attention to that Joe Biden beat on. The campaign trail is not a test of his cognitive functioning. Because he doesn't even know he's on the campaign trail in order to be able to debts it. Hello and welcome it. Is Eric Erickson here? The bottom of the Hour Byron York is GonNa join me from the Washington examiner. 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He's refusing to leave and Hispanic druglords raid the building. And he's got a he and Kate Bosworth have to fight them off and let me just read us over. The tweets the outright disrespectful it's another. I'm sorry I misread that. It's outright disrespectful to the people who went through the traumatic experience that was Hurricane Maria for Mel Gibson. Any Hollywood company to come to Puerto Rico Puerto Rico and make a movie where the islanders were the bad guys and he and the white people are the good guys Mel Gibson a starred in a movie where he refuses to evacuate his home in Puerto Rico. That's about to be hit by category five hurricane. Where is the cause acidy? Whose idea was this. Americans Mel Gibson to play a Puerto Rican resident unacceptable. The people of Puerto Rico do not deserve this the trauma of my people as the perfect setting for the next Hollywood people. The green goes do not support or contribute to Puerto Rico. But they want this movie. Oh my goodness gracious And people are people are a traumatic hurricane that brutally affected it's it's affected not affected Puerto Rico and continues to this day be made into a movie it. It's about a white man and that white man is the racist Mel Gibson. You can't make this up. Why is racist Anti Semitic Mel Gibson Killing Hispanic people on Puerto Rico in a movie Wow while the okay hang on one more one more one of the most tone-deaf things I've seen from Hollywood in a while to white people stranded in Puerto Rico during the hurricane fight criminals. You'd think it's easier to have empathy for people of color than the Middle. Acrobats needed acrobatics. Needed y'all come on. You know the worst thing about social media is it allows the outrage mobs to connect with each other and grow the mob. This is this is craziness people have been whipped into frizz it's like for example. People are outraged at. What's your name? Kelly Ripa Kelly. Ripa has been doing her to live with Kelly and whoever the side kick is for several weeks now from for a couple of months now from home and she's largely just abandoned worrying about getting her hair done. You can see gray routes and stuff and people have been shaming her for doing that so she got on and basically said. How dare you people trying to this? Show all the time. I'M NOT GOING OUT. I'm not violating quarantine. I'm getting my daughter to do my hair. How dare you criticize me? Now she's Giddy lit on fire on social media for telling people not to criticize her. You can't win with the outrage Bob. the only way to win with the outrage mob is to ignore the outrage mop in the outreach will eventually move onto other people it really is just absolutely silly and and now they're going after more Gibson. They will never allow Mel Gibson to repent of prior behavior. Since here's a people in Hollywood love Mel Gibson People. Hollywood WanNa work with Mel Gibson people in Hollywood appreciate Mel Gibson but they've been scared to be near Mel Gibson because of prior antics and behaviors. He did have some issues admittedly Caught on on tape doing bad things but has largely tried to heal himself in the outrage. Mob doesn't want to let him go. This is something this by the way there's a larger aspect to this and yeah. I'm going to go on a river. We'll get back to politics here just a little bit. This is important though the because this place into which you find increasingly in society these days is a group of people who have no grace now mentioned before the CS Lewis. Line that thing that sets Christianity apart from every other religion including secularism is that it has the concept of grace of God gives you the things you do not deserve mercy. Every every religion has mercy. Mercy is is your God spares you from the things you deserve but Christianity has has Giving you the things you do not deserve. And we should recognize then and what secularism does not have as grace and they don't have forgiveness. There is no concept of forgiveness unless you completely conform so for example. I am an evangelical Christian White male almost to my mid forties with two kids who go to a Christian private school we believe in Biblical and Aaron See. We believe that homosexuality Zinin marriages between a man and a woman those are my beliefs that is anathema to most of culture these days in fact. I can tell you. I've had more than one person told me. I will never be able to grow this radio show to a national success. Which which I to do. I I want this program to be a national program. I don't want it to be just a Georgia program. I won't over time for it to grow into something national I I I've made no bones about that I WANNA be a nationally syndicated radio host. I see so many people who have become nationally syndicated radio show host. Who Frankly I think. Just throw red meat to the crowd and and tell you what they think you want to hear as opposed to what they actually belief and I'm perfectly willing to tell you what I believe in. You can disagree with me and we can still be friends or not. I get angry. Mail all the time for people who are upset that idea to challenge something that they believe even the. We're all the same side of the aisle but I'm not willing to abandon my convictions. And I I. We've those convictions into this program. I I do a show on. Good Friday whether you like it or not whether the program directors of America like it or not. I do a show about Easter Good Friday. And they're putting people wh when you get big. You're going to give this up. I have no plans to do that. There are people who believe unless you conform to culture. You can't access culture. You're not allowed to access culture. Look at it. Take for example. Remember Lauren Dagel Data is a brilliant singer and learn diggle started on in Christian music and she had some crossover success into pop music and billboard astro her views on homosexuality completely not relevant to a music interview but of course billboard is a secular outlet and Lauren Douglas Evangelical Christian. They asked her and she said she didn't know she wasn't sure. Well Christians litter on fire for not having biblical clarity at a moment where she was trying to break over an into into success shoulder. No grace in the matter or understanding and the left litter on fire because she she didn't say She disagrees with her faith just that she didn't know all sides literally fire and she's largely stepped away from the spotlight. She's got a new album out but it hasn't been nearly as successful hasn't been nearly as successful. She gun shy of doing press interviews people later alive. You see this all the time. Mel Gibson were Mel Gibson. Here's the dirty little secret. Mel Gibson is center right like Clint Eastwood. And you notice how The everyone does their best to ignore clinics with these days except on Fox ever since. Clint Eastwood Had that empty cheer on stage at the Republican convention for Mitt Romney The people have been outraged by in the same with Mel Gibson. Came out. That Mel Gibson might be considerate. And he's had vowed Catholic get Hulu or and yes. Mel Gibson has done other things. Mel Gibson has gone tirades about juice before yes totally inappropriate stuff. And they called him out and he had to apologize for it At one point I believe he had a chemical dependency raging alcoholism or something. He was a mean drunk. It had to do with that and people in Hollywood would like to revitalize Mel Gibson because they enjoy working with Mel Gibson but the outrage Mabul let him know if Mel Gibson were to come out tomorrow at announced he was very sorry for all of his problems. He realizes what he was struggling with was his gender and he really is non-conforming and for years he was fighting it and he sorry. And this whole Christianity thing is a bunch of hooey and really there is no god except us and we are made in our own image therefore I want to be made on on the image of feel most comfortable. He would be a overnight box office sensation with love. He never be able to actually have a good box office movie again. Nobody would want to go. See that except Hollywood but the outrage mob would welcome him back with open arms. You would write a big check to some gay rights advocacy group and the left would welcome him back with open arms. But if he's going to will if he apologizes for the Anti Semitic statements. He's made in the past and apologizes for his treatment of other people in the past. It makes a men's and says he's got treatment but he still believes in God and Christianity. And he still has a right worldview will check with him. Now you take that Mel Gibson and you layered on top of WHOA KNESS and outrage culture. Where he's a white dude in Puerto Rico fighting a Hispanic drug lords and by the way if you see the preview yeah the the drug lords were Hispanic here. He is with Gate Bosworth and Puerto Rico and all my goodness racism. Racism it all compiles. Its way together. We increasingly these formula formulas on the left. Fort for check box woke ISM when it comes to movies. They don't actually sell well but it allows people on the left to feel good about themselves. You know I had to give up on so much of the of the the wbz stuff the CW stuff the the DC TV series stuff. It just I mean you've gotTa have an and listen. I this sort of stuff that that turns me off. I don't care that there's a gay person and movie. I don't care that there's a gender non binary person I really don't but the fact that the in the DC comics you've gotTa have you have to have your your white male lesbian. You're you're black female lesbian. You're you're white female lesbian. You're black female lesbian. You're white gay guy you're not gender non binary non-conforming judge me person you're white guy who must learn from the the crowd. I mean air. The formula has become just so obnoxiously woke. I don't care about it being part of the show. I don't care about these characters baggers. I don't care who anybody sleeping with an A. DC comics show. You're there to fight the bad guys. But the fact that it has become the the formulaic woke kness of the of the stuff And that Hollywood believes this is a largely by the way this is indoctrination. Have you ever seen the D. shows my kids on their own decided they wanted to stop watching the Disney stuff on the Disney Channel? That the live action stuff because it was so in your face Ginger not the boys. You're just as likely to put all the makeup. The girls and Mike Gift for like that just doesn't seem right. I mean Hollywood just wants to have left wing culture as a tool of Dr Nation. And you see this on the CW shows you see this on the Disney channel shows and the left loves in by the way dead doesn't perform very well by and large. Now the DC steph perform well for a while when when they got out of the formulate. Check your box witness the identity politics stuff when there was just a gear character. Who WAS GETTING NOBODY CARED? But when you had to to it was it was how the person was defined as opposed to what they did. That became the big thing then. Suddenly people were like I. I actually want. I'm here for the action for the weakness and they doubt but the woke mob demands that you'd be they're not for the action and not for the plot for the witness and nobody wants to see that so here comes Mel Gibson who is already problematic left because he's not woken up and he's got past problems for which he's apologized but they can't forgive him because he did not abandon his long held beliefs of faith and and traditional conservatism to become woke he just apologized for being a jerk among other things that they can actually forgive him. Because unless you repent an abandoned conservatism. You're you're not actually honest. In your apology he comes out. And he's got this movie and they're gonNa let they haven't even seen it. It reminds me very much of conservatives who are upset with that stupid movie about the hunt where you didn't all you saw was the plot it look like oh Rich white people are poor trump voters. This is going to be bad and and the right shamed them into movie out and IT TURNS OUT. Actually that was nothing nothing about the plot. It was completely misrepresented people based at all the trailer and they were all wrong and people be wrong about this but with the really worried about is that this booby. Medics box office success. If it's a box office success will there might be a more of a crowd for Mel Gibson movies and movies like this and it just Cop Movies who cares about the weakness you've got to care about the witness the woke mob forces you to care about witness and if you don't you're a bad person most people don't care about it though most people couldn't care less about it and so the outrage mom must be evermore vocal to silence those who point out that nobody really cares about the stuff. Nobody wants to watch this stuff. People just want be entertained. They don't WanNa be preached to indoctrinated will. You're not allowed to say that even if you believe it because wooten is on abide by that and so the outrage mob has come again for Mel Gibson for dairy to just put out a movie and they wanted permission. They wanted him to realize this bad certainly bad. It's a Mel Gibson movie either. You're gonNA like it or you're not you don't have to go watch the movie but then they don't want you to watch the movie either. I gotTA raise you guys the story. Welcome back the full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. This is from the Babbel I'D BE I. I saw this at just died. Laughing Headline Jolo osteen warns. It is far too soon to reopen the Bible Prosperity Gospel Bridge or Jolo. Stein has warned the nation it is far too soon for Christians to reopen their bibles. We must continue our indefinite lockdown of the Bible. He said in a sermon Sunday. If we open it up too soon it could be a disaster. Just think if people started reading their Bibles Willy. Nilly what I have to say any longer. My luxury cars aren't gonNA pay for themselves out of an abundance of caution it's important we keep our bibles closed as long as possible. Studies have shown that reopened the Bible can lead to sudden heart change reduced fear anxiety and the destruction of every of the prosperity. Gospel owes team says these F. fx detrimental to Christians who simply want God to bring blessing favor and lots of cold hard cash is we simply can't real but God's word anytime soon. Those Stephen declared words a victory over himself congregation for the next twenty minutes to get the taste of the word plot of his mouth. I love the Babylon be It is well done. And let's see hang on If you've never been to the Babylon the website is Babylon be dot COM Let's see here we go. Yes Mayor Bill De Blasio has a stern warning for beachgoers in the city of New York. Today you will literally get blown up. The mayor proudly announced that he had the New York Police Department. Install a state of the art naval minefields surrounding the city. So that anyone who swims the water will get long sky high to make sure as many people stay alive as possible. We're going to explode you for going out of the water. Now listen. This is actually based on the story. Where is this clip? A list of this. This is bill de Blasio talking about swimmers in New York City in terms of enforcement out parts department. Be Out obviously first and foremost to help make everyone remember. Don't go in the Water. Not supposed to go in the water. It's a dangerous situation to ever go in the water when there's not lifeguards present so there'll be a constant reminder that anyone tried to get in the water they'll be taken right out of the water so we want to keep people moving. We WanNA make sure nothing gets too crowded. Don't WanNa see the boardwalks crowded just classic social distancing. I guess I shouldn't say classic something we've only dealt with for a few months. But it feels like it's been a long time. We understand the basic concept of social distancing and crowding and the NYPD will always work to avoid crowds and gatherings. So they'll be out in parts enforcement will be out. They will pull you out of the water swimming here. From the Babylon be. That was actually bill de Blasio's serious. The police will you out of the water in New York. If you're call swimming but here from from the Babylon be to make sure as many people stay alive as possible. We're going to explode. You for went. The water as he said as he unveiled the official New York Minefield. You go out of the water. Boom you step on the beach. Yup more minds boom in if the mines. Don't get you the heavy machine guns will this. Atlantic Wall will keep New Yorker safe for years to come well done when we come back. Byron York GonNa join me for the Washington examiner. It is the Eric Erikson show and the full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five joining me from Washington. Dc is swell longtime political reporter. You see on. Tv's at the Washington Examiner For years was at National Review. Someone you gotta read every day that would be Byron York. Welcome to the program. How are you? Hey Eric I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. I read your email yesterday. In your daily memo. That's come out now. The Washington examiner. And I was glad to see you writing about this I. I was actually surprised that Ben Smith The New York Times of all people would write about Resistance Journalism and Ronan Farrow. And I. It seem so much. This has become a pattern in the median. Washington and New York where You write stories. there are kernels of truth. And then when you issue the correction three weeks later it gets not even a quarter of the attention is the original piece that turned out not to be true. Yeah this is It was an interesting piece in the sense that it was attacking Ronan Farrow who has particular sort of icon sacred cow. Whatever in New York nearly circles about some of the reporting things done On the METOO movement Particularly Yellow did a story about Michael. Cohen is the presence lawyer now in jail That just doesn't hold up at all but resistance. Journalism is way bigger than anything wrong. Pharaoh. has done it is a mindset that we've had since two thousand seventeen That if if you pick the right target. If the person you're writing about is deeply unpopular in your media circles you can virtually say anything And it you know and if it turns out to be wrong you don't suffer great consequences you might in fact when a big award I saw somebody yesterday. Say Well maybe. This is the beginning of the end for resistant journalism. I don't think so. I think it's more until the the current president as long as the president is still in office. I think it will still be the way to acclaim awards and money. You mentioned this in you and I both paid attention to journalist for years and there's clearly always been a left leaning bias but it seems like now it's not just a left leaning bias but those reporters in the mainstream media who either might have sympathies with right or don't lean far enough left or often shamed or punish you for example. Catherine herridge leaving Fox for CBS. And suddenly it's it's the media it's fair game to pile on her. The attacks on Catherine Herridge is a great reporter. Were as predictable as son coming up I. They were utterly predictable. And what's what she did was at Fox Her beat was national security. She had done a lot of Reporting on the investigation into the investigation with the whole trump Russia. Thing with Michael Flynn with the dossier all that sort of stuff and she continues to do that. ed CBS and remember. We got some really big stuff. Recently in the Michael Flynn trial. Remember those I obviously when the The government dropped the charges. We got these notes from the FBI that they were gaming out. The Flynn interview that before. They're doing it and they say well. Should I go be to get him to lie or should our goal to get him fired? I mean this is serious stuff and Catherine reported on that and you looked at it and you knew she would be attacked soon and indeed. She is it. It has nothing to do with what she's Reported has all to do politics and trump and the number of people. Cbs by the way have defended her. Because it's good reporting it is and it's it's unfortunate to see it's almost like a poisoning. I I realized one of the benefits of social media particularly twitter is we can finally see that so many of the reporters we long suspected head. left wing worldviews really do But also at the same time it's it's been increasingly disturbing to me that the media's not only more and more lacking in self reflection these days as they demand Republicans Over go over and above with self reflection but also that they refuse to eat. It takes a lot more time for conservatives to make their case to the media then then further left. I I've mentioned on this program before when I was at CNN. I never ever was asked to talk about a story that originated from the Washington examiner or from national review or anywhere else but from daily Coz from talking memos. You name it Oftentimes the stories were were originated there. It's like they never even had the intellectual curiosity to figure out what people in the right thought. Well look they're just blast could not look conservatives. Have been talking about that for a long time. They talked about during Reagan. They talk veteran. The Clinton Years Bush I mean they. They talked about it for a long time. I do think there is an extra phenomenon here With trump in the sense that many on the left and many journalists feel. This is a moral issue that the president is a moral disaster. And he's a big ED and his NFL. And and and being such a moral disaster Justifies more aggressive tactics in opposing and so that So look Stronger measures are required to deal with his presence. And that's what we're seeing so it's not just old run-of-the-mill to Kinda briars that the media research center would point out all the time very useful e back in the back in the day. It's something different. It is kind of a moral crusade against as well in E that's a perfect transition into your email today about the the FBI. In the. Mike Flynn information the revelations because it's almost as if the media treats Flynn as the enemy because he worked for the president has as we've seen the media to even try to get out. She fired and others tried to Jim. Controversy there And it makes you wonder. What are they leaving out in the story that Republicans are trying to get attention to in? Can't yeah this is a newsletter on doing called the daily memo which you can go to Washington examiner DOT COM and And sign up for the to the story. Today is Republicans on the House now. They're the minority. They can't really get anything done They WANNA know this. This is what we were just talking about. Remember the notes from the FBI before the plant interviews. We try to get him fired. Should we Catch him in a lie. What what should we did They WanNa know more about those and have Invited THE TO People involved The the former FBI supervisor bill pre step and the agent. Joe Pinker To come ask answer questions before the House. Judiciary Committee now. They're the minority chairman. Nadler does not want US okay. It's not gonNA happen unless unless one of these two just agrees to do it. And they're they're they're hoping that one of them will agree to do it. This is the plight of the minority ever happens. It's it's the way it goes. The party that won controls the house completely And and the Republicans are not the party. That won Right but it is good to be on the record trying to get this information and you never know. Sometimes you find things out well for those you just tune in. I'm talking to Byron York from the Washington examiner. He's got a new daily memo. That comes out by email and to make it easy for you. If you use the keyword I always give you guys data a text it to three three seven seven seven. Text you back a link you can click linke go straight to the subscription page for the email if you wanna get it. Byron yet towards the end of your memo today you mentioned the germ investigation and maybe these guys can wait to see what happens there. What's your take on the Durham investigation? Well I think it was interesting when we saw the Attorney General. Say Look you know. If you're thinking. The Barack Obama Joe Biden. They're going to get indicted. Your forget about it and I think it's been a bad trend on the right as well as the last but in the right in this case of wanting to see people hang for various offenses when what we really need to find out is what happened. In the Obama Administration during the transition What sort of spying was done on the trump campaign The use the use of dossiers and and and and Wiretap warrants and all that kind of stuff. So that's what we need to find out now. Durham Is supposedly going way. Beyond what Michael Horowitz was the Justice Department? Inspector General could do remember our which was limited to talking to people from the Justice Department Durham is not so limited at all and A lot of Republicans feel that the intelligence agencies not in the Justice Department were part of all this The the interesting question is Remember in the old world of prosecutors if you investigate somebody and you don't indict them. You don't do a report he may say. I finish the investigation. We've taken no action that's it. Well Robert Muller could have done that but he didn't do that. He published a four hundred Patriot. Port and by Golly Republicans want a four hundred page report from Durham Telling what he found. So I I think that we will this. Is We got such a report because this is just how it's done now But I frankly don't know what it's going to one. It's going to say time is ticking. Away I mean it is already mid to late. May there's an election in November If president trump loses There's no way they'll be any investigations like this in a democratic administration so Durham needs to get going to eat one of the things that I've been concerned about an in last years you sold on the right with Obama here you see it on the the left with Muller now almost back to the right with Durham. Is this quest for the silver bullet. The just this this one thing to take out the other side and there seems to be a lot of emotional investment in the stuff and inevitable disappointment every time. It didn't pan out. Well yeah well. A relative of the silver bullet is the smoking gun. And remember in the search for collusion. There was this smoking or that smoking gun. It was trump tower meeting at proves it or Oh manafort show polls to somebody that proves the smoking gun It just doesn't happen ways. Very very complex Complex thing but we need to find out what the intelligence services law enforcement services were doing targeting the trump campaign when we you know we have tantalising bits of that. We've had you know when we saw news that that this was discussed it. President Obama in January fifth twenty two seventeen meeting new about the Michael Flynn wiretaps. So you think well. What else did you know that was? He kept apprised of this. Did He. Direct it You know what's going on. This is the heart of what's called Obama Gate right now But it's just it's just a desire to know what happened in this critical time because it turned into an investigation. An uproar a special counsel that consumed three years of a four year president. It's not it's really important and we need to know what happened so it before you get. Outta here and feel free to completely disagree with meal this but this is this is has been my prevailing theory about how we got to this point. Is that The Obama team. They wanted to believe every bad thing about trump and his team and his is the steele dossier and stuff started circulating it began to reinforce their presuppositions that trump was bad and that the Russians were involved in so moving forward every decision that was made along the way was made from the standpoint of this guy is bad in bed with the Russians and the presupposition is we hate him in he must be stopped and that led us to the point of them not even being able to conceive of the idea that Hillary was just a bad candidate it had to be the Russians yeah I think that's absolutely right. I would add to that a sense of deep offense that the new administration was going to come in and leave the believe it or not change the policy of President Obama and so it was clear for example that Michael Flynn talked to the Russian ambassador and his his message to the investors. Far As we can tell was You got these new sanctions. Don't don't escalate it. You know a respond You know in in proportion if you must that's fine but we'll talk about it later when we're office that's that's what new administration's always do but it involved changing the the policies that President Obama. I think they were deeply offended by and You Mix that with the suspicion and what you were talking about this this view of trump. Then you get what what they did. And the rest is history. Alright Byron York Your New Daily Memo if folks WANNA to get it now is five days a week or seven days a week five days a week and you know these these newsletters that say it's like a one page digest of everything you need to know. This is that this I I look at stories that I think are most interesting. That are not getting enough attention And hopefully if you look at it you will find out something that you did not know before. Well I appreciate that I. I like the the highlight the headlines and the bullets. 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There is news is very good news in the state of Georgia. Right now I don't know that it's embargoed. I was told it it. It isn't GonNa hit the wires for a little while can I? Can I tell you can you? Can I tell you in advance? Because it hasn't hit the new service yet. In fact let me make sure. Let me make sure I see on. I duNno I may get in trouble for letting y'all in on the secret but it's really good news and I think it's news that you need to know let's see. No no no no. It's no and the wires yet. I should I tell you guys I I'm thinking I can tell you 'cause it's GonNa hit the news. I might as well break the news. There's breaking news this is. This is big breaking news for the first time since the beginning of April hospitalizations in Georgia are below one thousand for the virus. That's remarkable Since the beginning of April we've had at least one thousand people in hospital care for covered. Nineteen Georgia until today. We're now below that that is good news And we should all be happy with that news. We should all be happy with the progress in the state in. This gets back into what I was talking about earlier. That you've got people who don't want to accept the good news now now. There are those who don't want to accept the good use because things have been so bad they don't WanNa get disappointed at the bottom falls out a you know. I I do think in fact let me read you my daily. So if you text data to three three seven seven seven you're going to get back to the Department Kathleen the issue me in the New York thing and you're GonNa get another text message later and is going to say. Hey I've got this daily newsletter you know I pay for the text service on a pocket. I do all the stuff We don't have advertisers subsidizing. It and one of the great ways to help me is to subscribe. It's just seven bucks to subscribe to the email that I send out whether you do or you. Don I try to make a portion of it freely available to everyone and let me read you how I started today. I suspect this is me writing this morning. I suspect we may see a viral rebound in the United States. That pushes some to aggressively. Go back into a lockdown. I don't know that the United States will but I also think so much. Media Rage reporting has happened about trump in the virus that the media has largely failed to note just how similar other countries have performed to the United States. This suggests it is not trump but the virus unfortunately the media is in permanently is permanently in blame trump mode. Certainly they're legitimate. Criticisms silly me just thinks when the entire planetary governmental systems behave similarly that it's not the president of the United States but some are external factor like a microscopic entity likewise other countries are seen viral rebounds contemplating new lockdowns. So I expect that here too I do I I expect. We will see a governmental lockdown. Our at least an a tip. Because I think we'll see a potential viral rebound. I hope not I really hope. Not But if every other country on the planet is starting to see it I but how are we going to be an exception but that should not mean we avoid the good news and the good news is that we have a trend line in the right direction? We have seen a decline in the spread. And we are now below a thousand people in the hospital with cove. Nineteen in Georgia and we should be applauding that news. Hello and welcome it. Is Eric Erickson here across the state of Georgia? And I say that intentionally because as much as I have global ambitions for this year Media Radio Empire We're right now at Georgia show and we got to get into some Georgia news here. Particularly I'm getting so many questions about the ballot There are things we need to discuss But I'll take your phone calls as well. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five This hour of the program is Yet again sponsored by First Liberty Building and loan in Newnan Georgia. They can help you. Nationwide by the way doesn't matter where you are listening in anywhere in the United States of America First Liberty Building. Loan can help you They've been helping small businesses and mid sized businesses Nationally since nineteen ninety-three and right. Now they can help you get into the payroll prediction program. They cannot guarantee it but they will do their best to get you in To First Liberty G. DOT COM. That's the website and click on the apply now button at first liberty dot com apply. Now I fill out the form. Get your payroll paperwork in order. And they'll help you get into the program no guarantees. But they've been having good success getting businesses in if your business needs it. Let them know. I WANNA spend a few moments Talking about the ballots for the election. And you should know I'm prepared to tell you to vote In a couple of races in the ninth Congressional district. If I lived in the ninth Congressional district I would be voting for Matt Gertler for Congress if I lived in the seventh I would be voting for rich McCormack. If I lived in the six would be voting for Karen Handel and if I lived in the fourteenth I would vote between Marjorie greed and in Kevin Cook Kevin Cook Is One of the gay? Murder greened doesn't have a legislative record and Kevin does and Kevin Cook's record is is the type of conservative record. Were you know? He's a stand up to his own side. He's one of those. Dan Gertler both are on the resolution calling for the ouster of Speaker Roulston. Which is the speaker is out to get them It looks like there's going to be a runoff up in the fourteenth of you WanNa make sure That you're in a solid run off with solid people. You want to vote for Kevin Cook Merger Green up there and get the two most conservative candidates in that runoff. The polling there shows. It's going to be a run off. it. Michael Caldwell is running for the state Senate against incumbent brain beach and Brandon's Fi but Michael Cole will hands down more conservative. We could improve that seat by getting Michael Caldwell in there so I was for him. And if you're in the NEWNAN peachtree Syria. Philip Singleton is the incumbent and the speaker of the House hates his guts and is out to get him and I would vote for Philip Singleton. And if you're in north Georgia and the Dalton area chuck pain has a challenge of the primary vote for chuck main. You absolutely absolutely won't vote for chuck pain The the left is out to get chuck pain. You WanNA support chuck pain. Make sure you keep him in office now when you get your ballot. If you're a Republican. I'm looking at my sample ballot. You're going to have some local races but let let's let's walk through the ballot right now and I'm going to do the Democrat and the Republican both I'm going to start with the Republican and you don't have a lot of races. You've got president trump. You got proof for Senate Jason Shaw for Public Service Commission For one seat in and Bubba McDonald junior for another. And then you're GonNa Have Your Congressman Mine is Austin Scott. There's Danny Ellison Advanced Dino. I'll vote for Austin Scott in that race and then I've got state Senate there's no challenger to John Kennedy in the primary and State House there's no challenger to deal Washburn House For Sheriff I don't know who this Ricketson person is But he doesn't have a challenger and then you've got you will have party questions before you get to any of your local and county races. I well actually I take that back. You'll have e- if you're you may have district attorney. You may have countywide races so the way it works on the ballot is your you've got all of your State County and city partisan races and then you have in your partisan primary ballot you've got your partisan primary questions and you've got all the nonpartisan racists starting with judge and work your way down to like school board and Mayor So we get through all of the partisan races each party to ask questions here. Are the Republican Party questions for the ballot should Georgia lawmakers expand educational options by allowing students? State education dollars to follow to the school. That best fits their needs whether that is public private magnet charter virtual or Homeschool. Yes or no And the answer is yes Yes you want. So show overwhelming support for school choice in Georgia because why the Republicans and legislature led by. The speaker have been blocking school choice. You WanNA show overwhelming Republican support for that number. Two should voting the Republican primary be limited to voters registered as Republicans. Yes you should have closed primaries. Republicans should only be the ones allowed to vote Republicans Democrats Democrats And should candidates for board of education be required to declare their political party? I don't see a reason why Why though no? I'm opposed to partisan boards of election Educating your child should not be partisan Now that leads me into the nonpartisan racist and I WANNA get there but first let's deal with the person races on the democratic ballot The Democrats will also have a a ballot nine. He's mine the first race will be for president and you'll go in there's going to be Biden Sanders. There's not let me read you. The names Michael Bennett. Joseph Biden Michael Bloomberg Pete. Buddha judge John Delaney Tulsi Gabbard. Amy Klobuchar Divall Patrick Bernie Sanders Tom. Steyer Elizabeth Warren and Andrew Yang. They will all be on the ballot. And then you'll have your Senate race for the Democrats Ciro rigs Emeco Markeith Jesus James Knox Tricia carpenter mccracken. Jon Ossoff Maya Dillard Smith and Theresa Tomlinson. They'll be your Senate candidates you'll have for public service. Commissioner Robert Bryant will be a candidate. You'll have another race where you'll be able to choose between Daniel Blackman and John Knoll the challenge Lauren bubble. You'll have your congressional races and then you will have your State House and State Senate races. And then you'll have your county partisan races district attorney clerk of Court Sheriff Tax Commissioner solicitor all those sorts of things. Then you will get into the Democratic Party Kushner. Listen to these. These are what the Democratic Party once you pulled on should Georgians work to stop climate change and listen to the scientific community which recommends immediate action to combat the serious threat to our planet. That's question one question. Two should Georgia enact basic standards to protect our environment for from wasteful plastic items that pollute our state question. Three should every eligible Georgian be allowed to register to vote on election day. To make sure everyone can exercise the right to vote question four should Georgia take partisanship out of the redistricting process to have an independent commission? Draw district lines instead of politicians question. Five should our criminal justice system in the discriminatory cash bailout system that allows the wealthy to buy their way to jail while disadvantage lower income. Georgia with a wait. What this question screwed up shooed hour of reading it. Word for word on the ballot. Should our criminal justice system end the discriminatory cash bail system that allows the wealthy to buy their way out of jail while disadvantage ing? Oh I see a disadvantage in lower income. Georgia's okay and then question. Six should every Georgia that has served their sentence for crime. They committed be allowed to have their voting rights restored. The Democrats always asked questions. And just so you understand about these. Because I've gotten these questions about Whitewater these questions. What are these questions are we amended got Susan No These are primary questions. Each party is allowed to put questions on their primary. Party's ballot They have to help pay for the cost and they always ask questions catering to their crowd. They typically come from their conventions their passed by resolution and they're put on the ballot. The Democrats always asked Moore. They're always about stuff like this environmental nonsense and whatnot. Now once you get past all the partisan stuff to the nonpartisan stuff Big Question is The nonpartisan general election for Supreme Court Justice Beth best skin or Charlie Bethel Charlie Bethel is the incumbent and you want to vote for Charlie Bethel listed. A best best is a very nice person but Charlie Hudson nothing wrong as the incumbent. He's also more pro life than baskin So you want to vote for Charlie Bethel you want to make sure you support the incumbents in these Supreme Court races. These are Brian. Kemp picks among others. They deserve to be supported. Sarah Hawkins Warren As well for this report you WanNa vote for her And then you'll have court of appeals races. You'll have Your Superior Court races and the like you. Just vote for the incumbent spokes. Just vote for the incumbents in you will not go wrong supporting the incumbents And then in some places you will have votes for coroner for County Nonpartisan Racist for boards of Education for mayor and the lake Gosh I gotTa Tell You. I'm the so I'm living in making and we've gotta we've got a five person mayoral primary and I don't know I guess don't know this Blake Sullivan Guy. But I I like Larry Slesinger. And we'll vote for Larry. Slesinger Blake Sullivan I'm not really excited about any of the other candidates but that's just for me locally where I am I like Larry But I don't know that Larry Hi I don't he campaign. There's been so much you can campaigns I don't know but nonetheless it'll be Blake Sullivan lyrics lesson for me. That's the ballot the big races though. The partisan races are going to be your Senate race if you're a Democrat and some state legislative races and if you're Republican the Ninth Congressional district that's Northeast Georgia the Fourteenth Congressional district. That is northwest Georgia. And the seventh Congressional district that is northwest of downtown Atlanta. The northeast rather the Gwinnett county area and it stretches north up towards Gainesville Close they're not quite to Gainesville not quite the hall county That's and Mike entrepreneurs in that race and she'd be fine I think Richard McCormick will wind up being a more reliable conservative. Ted and Mike Lee in a number of others have come out for McCormack. I think he would be great that race by the way is going to be a one. The Democrats want to pick up and one the Democrats could pick up a so. You need your best candidate forward in that race and in the sixth Congressional District Karen. Handel wants to challenge loosened me bath. Macbeth got the seat from Karen Handel. Two Years Ago Karen. Handel is back again to try to challenge and take back the seat But it's going to be a it's GonNa be a messy messy race in the statewide level though Absolutely you want to vote for You WanNa vote for if you live up in north of Atlanta in the Cherokee County And North Atlanta area. You want to vote for Michael Caldwell for the state Senate just hands down. If you're in the Newnan Peachtree City area you hands down. You want to vote for the four Philip Singleton and If you live in the Ding County area and you head out towards West Georgia they're You won't vote for Jason Editor. Tei You absolutely want to support him. He is a solid solid candidate. Those are my picks right now I may add to them. I'll put them somewhere and let you know. But one big thing is for the nonpartisan Superior Superior Court. Races vote for the incumbents. They really are good. Conservatives more conservative than those who are challenging them. So I highly recommend that you do that now to the phones John. Calling from mcdonagh. You're going to be next to the program welcome. Hey Hey eric. How's it going headed? Had I'm doing well doing well thought I was watching? Tv tonight and On the radical Fox News and they had Actually to business. I was watching Lou. Dobbs it was talking about. We've got to prosecute Obama. We've prosecute Biden for their obvious Watergate. Nixon ask escapades that they have participated in But I think that that's only GonNa make them martyrs and That would rally the Democratic side. I would much prefer that everyone under them be aggressively judiciously prosecuted so much so is to make examples of them much like they tried to make examples of Roger Stone and Carter page Because that would definitely lend a lesson to the Democratic Party that if you're gonNA play dirty then you're gonNA pay for it and I'd much rather see all those underlings Brought to justice because that way It'll be harder for the Democratic Party to rally any future underlings to perform such various deeds after Erlich men Mitchell and dean when rail The Nixon go democratic Excuse me the Republican Party was Scourged and I'd like to see a scourging of the Democratic Party over this. Listen you're absolutely right on. Obama and by the issue is Obama and Biden. Is you go after them You do absolutely make them eve. You amplify them make them bigger. Heroes you incentivize people. The locker up Janet and going to work with them The Democrats will turn people frankly. It is rather a third world kleptocracy to go after the former leaders. I it is whether you want to admit it or not This is what Third World governments do. And if the trump administration does it to Biden and Obama you can be one billion percent. Sure that the moment they are no longer in office the democrats are going to go after them and it just becomes a tit-for-tat that totally undermines of the foundations of the republic to to go after the prior leader You go after you do it investigation and you see what did Rahm. But here's the thing you got to actually do a real investigation and what Durham is doing. And there may be no criminal charges. He may find nothing wrong in. That'll never placate Republicans. But you go down. This road of investigation encounter investigation of the prior administrations. What we really need to do is try to find the truth If we make it about just Grievances and scoring points and settling things. Then you're going to see it spiral out of control. Let's just find the truth of what they did? Because clearly there were people absolutely. Maybe some of them duty to go to jail. There were people who overstepped their bounds because they hated donald trump so much they wanted to stop him and they sacrificed any objectivity they might have had to believe the worst about the incoming president to try to stop him. Hello there it is. You're here in here. I- neighbor just sent me this. We were planning on For the Fourth of July going to Hilton head and the headline in the island Packet Hilton head. Beach cleared Monday afternoon. For Large Shark in the water Yea See I wanNA take my drone and fly it out and check this stuff out. Ooh Wow they're ACTU- wow that is a big picture. My Goodness Gracious. You know when I was a kid Living in Louisiana we would go down before we moved to Dubai. We would go down to grand isle. Louisiana's one of the the first memories of the beach. I have man I remember getting so terribly sunburned down there one time and but there would be porpoises in the water and I would just be convinced convinced that they were sharks. You would see the Finns coming out of the water. And I would be freaked out man. I hated to go in the water And of course everybody else knew that there were porpoises because they had a flat tails parallel to the water. And but man I was. I was just convinced So you know if the tail if you see the income of the water and the tail is is up and down as opposed to across that you're dealing with the shark but yeah I I know now nowadays. I like to go to the beach. One day I'd love to have a house in Hilton head and just be able to sit there and watch. The dolphins from the balcony washed the dolphins. The where I I love it but yeah I'll stay out of the water if they're sharks but I'm going by God am I going he. Yeah I need the I may actually take off this Friday just because it's it's finally time. I don't think I've taken all sits February other than I was sick last Monday. y'all wouldn't have wanted me here last Monday But nonetheless okay I I digress. We gotta move on to other things. there is actually some more good news out there that you need to know about you. Have you heard all of the stories about people? Getting reinfected have been people who tested positive again for After they've recovered and they've tested positive. You've heard the story. It's happened in Korea South Korea. It's happened into one. It's Taiwan Taiwan has happened in Japan. It's happened now. In the United States there are people who they fully recover and then they get tested a second time and they test positive and there has been a big debate in the scientific community as to whether or not people are getting reinfected and Kenya get reinfected. It's actually one of the unknown things about the virus. Can you get reinfected? Well there is a new study out that The patients who are testing positive in presumed reinfected are not actually reinfected They are the virus is the test is detecting the virus that their body continues to shed. Researchers are finding evidence that patients who test positive for the corona virus after recovering. Art capable of transmitting the infection and could have the antibodies that prevent them from falling sick again. Scientists from the Korean Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Study two hundred eighty five. Covert Nineteen survivors. Who had tested positive for the corona virus after their illness had resolved as indicated by previous negative results? The so called positive patients weren't found to have spread any lingering. Infection and virus samples collected from them couldn't be grown in culture indicating the patients were shedding non infectious or dead virus particles. The findings are a positive sign for regions looking to open up as more patients recover from the pandemic so that is more good news to add to the body of good news including the latest news from Georgia that hospitalizations have fallen below a thousand for the first time since the beginning of April. Good news all around right now on this. You can call in. Welcome media's Eric Erickson here eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five and keep in. Mind that if you want Byron your shoes litter or you want to see the daily totals for the Corolla virus spread in Georgia text. The word data three three seven seven seven. I'll get you back and let me give you that. Update right now. Thirty eight thousand. Six hundred twenty four confirmed cases. But that's cumulative not current. There are only a couple thousand current cases in Georgia which is really good There are seven thousand two cumulative hospitalizations in Georgia but less than a thousand current. And that's the first time since the exact date is April eighth on April eighth. The state of Georgia crossed over the thousand hospital bed mark. And we've been above a thousand people in hospitals in Georgia for Cova nineteen since April Eighth. And now we're below it and that is a good thing and the progress continues In fact the governor's office reached about me talking to him this afternoon. If I talked to him I'm be sure to bring you guys my interview with him tomorrow morning But it's really good news really really good news and we should Be Celebrating that good news. Now there is other news out there as well that we need to get to including You know in the seventh Congressional district Alexandria Cossio Cortes has weighed in on Nabila Islam Once the the that is the best known liberal in the district and the best known liberal in the country is now jumping in because of quote unquote is Lonzo campaign. Because of her working class background it provides her with unique insight into what Americans go through on a regular basis. That's right Alexandria Cossio Cortes Wayne. And you know we haven't done this in a while we while she's weighing in on the Bela Islam because of her working class background providing unique insight into what Americans go through on a regular basis. We should consider the unique insights that we get from Alexandria Cossio Cortez her actual words and now deep thoughts bags Andrea conceal tins. I mean it's true. It's like we need to take a look at factory farming. You know period. It's wild it's not like to say we're going to force everybody to go vegan or anything crazy like that but it's to say listen. Maybe you shouldn't be eating a hamburger for breakfast lunch and dinner like let's keep it. Real was deep thoughts Alexandria Cortes those were actual words. All we did is is take the transcript of her actual words. That was Alexandria Kazu. Cortez who has seen fit to weigh in on a race here in Georgia The seventh Congressional district That a lot of Democrats a lot of people think could potentially go to the Democrats in November and you know the polling right now is very favorable to the Democrats but it's all a reaction to the virus. It's other police wrong. It's just that the polling is right now. It's not pulling in the future. We're not getting a sense of where the race may be There's no reason to panic about it. They're they're actually a a real. There's a real divide in the country. That is well. It's not going away and it's reflected in the polling and and there's a real angst in the polling there's a real angst in the country right now over the direction of the country because they're worried about the virus in there as I mentioned before there are so many people who don't want to take advantage of the good news because they're so worried about more bad news. Come in and I understand that but you can only take so far. Well I I I need to move onto something away from the virus because Do you know what gas leading is? Hang on a SEC. LemMe Lemme we're here it is. I need to read the wikipedia injury for Ya. Gas Lighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual making them question their own memory perception or judgment often evoking in them cognitive dissonance and other changes such as low self esteem using denial misdirection contradiction and misinformation gas leading involves attempts to destabilize the victim and de legitimize the victims beliefs. Instances can range from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents occurred to the staggering or bizarre events by the accuser with the intention of this Rita the victim the term originated from the British. Play Gas Light In nineteen thirty eight but performed as Angel Street in the United States it was adapted into films in nineteen forty nine hundred. Forty four. Both called gaslight. The term has been used in clinical psychological literature as well as in political commentary In the play gas light this husband attempts to convince his wife and others that the wife is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting she is mistaken remembering things incorrectly or delusional when she points out these changes. The place title alludes to how the abusive husband slowly dims gas lights in their home while pretending. Nothing has changed in an effort to make his wife doubt her own perceptions. He further uses the lights in the sealed-off Attic to secretly search for jewels belonging. To a woman who he is murdered he makes loud sounds as he searches including himself. The wife repeatedly asks her husband to confirm her perceptions about the dimming lights noises and voices but in defiance of reality he keeps insisting the lights are the same and instead that she is going insane he intends on having her assessed and committed to a mental institution after which he will be able to gain power of attorney over her and search more effectively gas lighting. We are being gassed. Lit by the Democrats and the feminists. Let me read you. The headline. This is a a opinion piece of the New York Times. Believe all women is a right wing trap. Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault and conservatives are having a field day exultant that they've caught feminists in a new hypocrisy trap. A woman with no corroboration beyond contemporaneous accounts charges a powerful man with the decades. Old Crime Does it that sound mighty close to Christine Blazey forge complaint against Supreme Court nominee Brett capital yet this time many liberals who championed the metoo movement seems skeptical. Gotcha Tim Graham executive editor of newsbusters. Where's the Metoo Movement of the story? What happened to their rigid. Believable Women Boilerplate Fox News host Tucker Carlson the infuriating the sickening hypocrisy of the media the professional feminist movement. Believe all women. No they don't White House Adviser Kellyanne Conway. Three magic words believe all women. I didn't hear in Asterix. In fact believe all women does have an asterix. It's never been feminist boilerplate. What we are witnessing. Other instance of the right decrying would it? Imagines the Americans Women Movement to be spins the mind numbing hours tracking the origins of believe all women on social media sites and use databases as I did. And you'll discover how language like a virus can mutate yesterday's quote suffer the insertion of some foreign DNA all the word inserted was all the rage during the capital hearings with senator from Comma Harris Harris to Maisy Geraldo had their regard for Dr Blazes credibility elevated by Fox News pundits to universal gender credulity. They're actual words. I believe her became believe all women. That's literally the Hashtag former Fox News contributor Morgan Ortega said in February two thousand nine. There's a great search function on twitter. You can search believe all women for those of you. Don't believe that's what the Democrat of the cavenaugh case is they're literally a Hashtag while kind of meaningfully tracking hashtags on twitter as a confounding chore even for the Professional Data scrapers I consulted. It's a very interesting rabbit hole. Pablo Morales Henry Digital archivist at Harvard University Slesinger Library which maintains a collection of more than thirty million to related tweets told me nevertheless. Let's take the challenge S. she doted. Twitter has a search function while hardly great does at least crudely reflect the. Site's use type in. Believe all women for twenty seventeen in the me too movement took off in. October and you get several dozen references followed in October by many more. Here's the thing I found. The HASHTAG is by a wide merging used mostly by stretchers. We wait wait wait. Let me read this again. I found the Hashtag is by a wide margin used mostly by its detractors. So another words. There are people on the left. Who used believe women you know? Here's the thing. This is gas lighting. It was objectively true that believe all women and believe women were both things the left claimed we saw Republicans attacked for refusing to believe women for for claiming we saw Hollywood celebrities. Say that The you had to believe women you had to believe all women us all the time and time again and now they're say no not really no it was actually people on the right say well of course people the right were saying it because we were mocking the people on the left. Saint believe all women. You had Hollywood celebrity saying this. You had Hollywood celebrities leading the charge about believe all women you saw it with the accusations against Weinstein you saw it with the ACURA. She's Matt Lauer with Bill Cosby with with With Charlie. What's his name Charlie rose and you saw with bread capital believable women and now here come the Feminazi. No actually it was really the right using that with this gas lighting folks. This has gas lighting. I lived through the Brett cavill controversy. I was routinely assailed on TV for defending Brett capital and not believing Christine Blazey Ford and was told we have an obligation the society to believe all women. I lived through this. I lived through the hate mail. I lived through the reporter. Sydney me nasty notes that I thought you were better than this and now here comes this. Feminists aid no. We really didn't do all that. Yes you damn well did did it to me on a regular basis. You did it to people. I know who who on a regular basis were sailed for being misogynist for dairy not to believe all women not just Christine Blazey Ford. A now here you come saying actually know. The New York Times has already run pieces by other feminists and yeah as a matter of fact I believe all women and even though I believe utero read. I'm going to support Joe Biden with this is all about. This is crazy gas lighting. This is ridiculous. Gas Lighting and the New York Times is allowing it. Because they've got a help Joe Biden by the way I. I don't think there's the I don't think there's a there. There with terror except to the extent that it undermines further undermined media credibility and it should further undermine Meteo credibility We deserve to have the media undermined for the credibility. They did a terrible job. They genuinely did a terrible job and the fact that so many of them are now trying to rewrite history from just two years ago. That every single person who's been alive in an adult paid attention to new unless you're Joe Biden who's probably been senile for several years. The rest of US already knew this and now they're trying to revise it now. They're trying to say we didn't really mean it that way or you're putting words in our mouths. We're not putting words in your mouth. You set it. You believed it until it became inconvenient because it was a woman going after a Democrat and so now they have to gas lettuce. They've been accusing. Donald Trump of gasoline people for three years. And now they're doing it. They are no better than what they claim him to be again. How did I start this program? Eight is Donald Trump's unique superpower to make other people behave in the way. They claim he behaves. You Think Donald Trump gas slice people will buy. God you're going to you think. Donald trump is a misogynist. Will by God. You're going to be one you think. Donald trump abuses other people. Well you are you think. Donald Trump is a serial liar. Then you probably are to. Donald Trump makes other people behave in the way. They claim he bathes. It is his unique superpower. They believe that he gassed lies. People and so by God they're gonNa gaslight and tell us that the last three years of American history that we lived through the capital here as the like really didn't happen. They're willing to lie to get Joe Biden elected and they're willing to keep you sheltered in place to wreck the economy to make sure Donald trump loses man. It is so I put in the believe all women Hashtag and yeah as a matter of fact. it is a number of progressives berating for not believing all women Funny how that works it yet. They're absolutely absolutely are people out there. Who on the right or throwing it in people's faces but My goodness There were a lot of people on the left. Who were using believe all women who said we have to believe all women who who adopted this Hashtag? It was people in the right who begin at the end of two thousand eighteen. Throwing it in people's face thrown into the less face as a people like Michael. Natty were showing stunning hypocrisy when it came to the issue of believing all women My Goodness Gracious That Wow Yup. All sorts of all sorts of people have left to or adopting the believe women and believe all women and the like and Nope. Nope not anymore not anymore. The we are being gas lit. Good gracious I I gotTA I. Can I give some some combination? I know this. Make some of You. Mad But The mayor of Atlanta has gone on TV and said this mayor. I believe I remember when we were talking to you prior to the quote unquote reopening of Georgia. Which as we know was very early and let's also note. There's a robust conversation going on about the quality of the numbers. Were all getting out of the state of Georgia. But I think I remember you saying that you hoped to be wrong that you hope the situation would be better than you feared and if you were in fact wrong you would say that the Governor. I was wrong is is there a is that a little muddier than say. I was right or are I was wrong are we. As of the time of this conversation somewhere in the middle. Do you think well what I can say Brian is? It's not as bad as I thought that it would be so. I am pleased about that but I still think it's too soon to say the reason being whereas initially we were seeing increases between deaths and people testing positive rising anywhere from twenty five to thirty percent over a seven day period right. Now we're somewhere between twelve and fifteen percent and so it's better than it was but it's still not great. We've still not seen that fourteen day decline is recommended by the CDC. So we're not quite there where I can say that we are out of the woods. We are not because what we know is as we reopen. The state will also see whether or not this impacts our number of people who are testing positive. Listen she still nervous and I don't blame her. It has been the The it's been the urban areas of the country that have been most Most affected and I understand her concern. But it's nice for her to be on television. Admitting that things are not nearly as bad as we thought and that's good and she should be commended for that She should be commended for being willing to say that things. Aren't that bad. Because we're seeing in some places. Democrats aren't willing to do that There are a lot of Democrats in the country right now. Who Even as emmy take example in New York City? New York City is well over. The the curve is not only flattened. The curve is almost a completely on the other side and in New York. They do not want to engage in in New York. They do not want to reopen at all. I mean they're going to round people up for trying to swim. Which is crazy and yet that's what they're going to try to do at least in Atlanta. The mayor there is willing to say you know what things have it as bad as as we thought not as bad as she expected them to be still not comfortable. I get a lot of people are uncomfortable. I still think we're GONNA see a rebound of some kind. I do and I don't think it's going to be Brian. Kim's folder and just people are going to let their guard down. Hopefully the summer heat will stop that you know the places that have managed to avoid major rebound or the places they get hot and so. Hopefully that'll happen here. But man the good news is out there. Enjoy AT HOSPITALIZATIONS IN GEORGIA. Under a thousand. That's great news folks.

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MTV The Challenge RHAPup | Total Madness Preview Podcast

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MTV The Challenge RHAPup | Total Madness Preview Podcast

"And low everyone roberts with a challenge. Kotal madness preview podcast. I am Brian here on the coast. Eyelash Alley how are you? I am very excited. I was sort of like when this first got announced as united. Dixie like should we even do this? He's very like Ma- on it but going through the questions getting ready to do this preview. Podcast honestly I'm glad we're doing it this season because I am now more jazzed for this season than I was five hours ago before I had done any research for this. How are you? Yeah are you know. I think it's fun to get a little distraction. I think you know is not much else going on. That could provide a level of enjoyment. I'm sure we'll check change tunes when we're on our third episode of maybe two and a half hours about of yeah I was going through the cast. And we say this season newbies the returnees. There's a lot of people excited to see so this is obviously a terrible time. Everyone's going through so we figured we have extra time and ever can use some extra content so we will be previewing. This cast which Mtv did not give us a lot to work with. Luckily we're experts in the field. Yeah it would be funny like actually right full byles like what it would potentially still look the right about like bananas your seats. You like here on the twentieth season. Here's another fun fact that you may not know about but I guess for some of the New People would have been nice to have some level for information as avian opera million with some of the shows that they're coming from since we don't have a lot to break down as far as the content material that these contestants for the most part everyone tuning in knows who I would say. Eighty percent of the cast is we have some quote unquote veterans and rookies. I hate distinction. It's like ridiculous. That big T is a veteran but whatever and not just big like almost everyone on. The season is listed as a veteran. Irks me? But let's really break down the by little material. We have first of all. I want to ask you what you think of the title challenge total madness. So do we think that. For as opposed to less. He's in this is actually the title working to hear a lot of dubs throughout the entire season of what the alternate title would have been. I think this is it though and there was a rumor that this was supposed to be worthy world's three right so maybe there. Oh boy it's I like when the title had some meaning to the beam I mean I guess if the theme is just whole madness and then it's fine but you know it's doesn't move the needle one way or the other. I I say hated it and was like it should be one of the world's three that would be better than this. I don't understand it's like a total give up now I love it. It's like I Mitch. Watch myself on the on the title and now I love it. I think it's I do love it. I think it's on but I agree. It gives us nothing to work with. We have a question related to that so Germany Hamilton says. What are your predictions slash hopes or the game format this season while the title doesn't give us a lot an MTV has not given a lot. Is there anything we can speculate on that? We might see the season format wise so I guess one of the big questions is what type of format the challenges are and I think it's clear obviously limitations and with a final are individual. But we think it'll be like a free agent type thing or they're going to be moved together between teams payers individual or. Do you think it's always going to be individual? Like how do you view? The Daily Challenges Challenges Going Zero Idea. And maybe it'll it'll shift around like we've seen that before that it will you know oscillate but between like larger teams and individual and airs. But my real thing I want to talk about here is like what we just glossed over of the biggest twist ever and how the eliminations are going to be. Because that's what we actually do know right so this is TJ clearly had a lot to do with the format this season and he said he's sick of watching the final. He wants people to earn their stripes. Got To win them. So what do you think of this that you will not be able to go to the final unless you win and elimination? Yeah I don't I wouldn't mind when people avoided elimination because I think that's part of the game. Is building a strong alliance with you to avoid you going in? Especially if there's like an individual thing where if you perform poorly enough you have to go in like that's why. I never minded someone avoiding emulations eliminations. But I guess this will be interesting. I guess probably people look time there. Eliminations go up against people or it could create a situation. We are saving we people still so it adds a different dynamic. But I wasn't craving this to be at is I tend to agree with you. I feel like we saw something. You're describing it. What was the one where they were in the shelter? And then they had to like earn their stripes to be with the big dogs. What season was that the island right? That was my first one that I remember like recently like vision thirty or so invasion of the champs when they're all a shelter right. Yeah I mean look I. Don't care you guys either note. I'm talking about you. Don't don't ask me. I don't care but basically when you had to win an elimination to get out of the shelter. I feel like that's something similar. People wanted to go against week or people like if it does end up with like people calling out the newer people all the time just earning an easy check to the final. I don't WanNa see that like I'm not interested in that Outcome either but I think the game lay has changed a little bit. People are a little bit less afraid to take out major threats and there. Aren't that many layups here. You know. Look we're going to talk about the cast one by one but I do think it could yield some interesting results because there aren't really that many people to weed out until quote unquote labs. But I am worried about ct here. That's the person I think is most going to suffer for. Yeah he's he's going to be one of those that's going to have to pick a spot. He can't be finding himself Jordan and hoping to make a fire in the right time to to navigate this world because the last season he was kind of like the right place at the right time the entire season it worked out well but he probably wouldn't have the same porch in the summer. It's also going to really have to be the right. Elimination like not only the right partner. But like you know brute. Strength Weight is going to have to help out. Like he's not going to be out running anyone and I'm thinking other part though will play a big factor as it always does just like the format of voting is is where the winner gets to pick one and then everyone else votes. Is there a loser that goes in? So there's obviously other formattings up that'll play a big factor in voting. Happens and how you can get by and stuff like that so that that's also another key factor to see with the rules are. Let's keep going through if you don't mind before we get to the actual players the breakdown. The full extended trailer that we got to see. Because that's really all they gave US A. Tj does say that this did yield at least one good result for him. He said in his entire challenge greer. He's been waiting for these two guys to face off. Who Do we think? These two guys are Nelson Corey. Obviously right isn't that we're all related to say you got me on that one but with some combination of CT West Bananas like those three and tossed to with them. And then that's a matchup. He wants to see right. Yeah I really went in on this one because it's not Jordan and bananas because you're GonNa Bananas Have Gone Against Each Other before and free agent wes. Bananas did face off in Joe's versus pros according to Youtube high stills. I do still think it's them like bananas. Bananas Backpack Count as them having faced off. I know it wasn't I C T to stay in the game but I feel like you can't really save and waiting your entire career for them to face off when they face off was the most iconic if and challenge history and I think they have a vague face off like impairs in rivals as a key point even another chat like a puzzle partner. The fine so I think they're probably all at some point. If I would be stunned if those three in all combinations have never gone in against each other. I would find that very surprising at this point. Think West and Bananas Have Never Face Each Other and elimination unless it was in the last two years. Two thousand seventeen. I was hoping you would know this at least up until two thousand seventeen because they say the shows versus rose preview that this was the first time that they've ever faced off. That's wild no because yeah because bear sent West home in the last one also hasn't been on as many to either like when I was the one thing. Mtv did give us was their amount of challenges they've been on and it's like. West is down seven challenges from bananas. He reads the biggest too low pretty impressive stuff for anyone who's playing along drink game about us. I'm sure people are taking a drink. That like last season wasn't bananas. Where against each other be. I guess. That's probably have to be at other. I mean we see some clips of elimination that. They're going to do which I think I saw at the hall seemingly in there some classic ones probably get in the mix. So some good teaser there. The monster trucks her back to the cars are back. The action movies doubling is back and some classical nation. So I'm here for that and once again Zach in Genoa skype fight which I feel like happen. Every season both never on together ones on the always fight it. Somehow they can still fight. Why is that? Like Geno wasn't on last time because she got injured. Why izak not on this season do we know that no I? I haven't seen that would. Maybe he's sort of work going on. I don't know he not honest one. Imagine having a job you never know I I mean like I is it a spoiler to give an update on their life like to me the the art Zaken Jenna Break Up. Long distance over challenge is sort of a very tired forced storyline out. That's going to last more than one episode That oh probably lasts like a scene and then by the end of the scene though I think them being like engaged in very happily together wasn't sure for you're going to say that I'm going to say there's you know it's all active even like like I mean if you follow this show at all you know that they're I think they got engaged while we were recording. Lessees it so yeah a couple who is probably not going to get engaged. Halen bear an a a largely speculated couple about couple from last spoiler dead. I would tell you to not look into this issue. We'll give you all the information that is necessary to know. I'm sure there's more information but the like the deeper you dig about Ceylan. Bear the more likely. You're going to be come across a spoiler. So if you're spoiler verse I would not look into that. Let's talk about this because we get Ceylan bear making out and she is yelling at him saying she ruined relationship for someone who doesn't give an f about him her. The first ago to save about this is Kayla. Someone I've repeatedly complained as being what about being one of the main people who will tweet. I don't watch the challenge. Not Watching this episode but like feel free to tweet questions like Oh can't bothered to watch a challenge tonight. I'm not saying she deserves us at all. But maybe if you tuned in to show that pays your bills you would have seen that bear is not going to give a crap about you. Probably not wording relationship over. Maybe she did all this just to prove that she actually was not watching. People thought she like actually was was just lying about it so this this would be definitive proof. If she really didn't know what type of person bear was. This would show that yes. You really just does not watch the show that she is a part of so. Let's dig a little deeper into this. With bear and Kayla Kayla was in a relationship with Mike. Ep was off credited as being on. Mtv's from G's to gents. I did I watched the show. Absolutely what I still want to be credited in two thousand twenty or being on that show no but my keep he is like on the list reality shows he was on naked dating and he was on just one other like Bela show. I forget but they've been together like three. They were together three years. They were living in Vegas. They were an instagram perfect couple and then disaster struck. Rumors came back about Kaelin bear while they were still taping the season. Here's what I have. Here's what I dug it. My spyglass Emoji out on to rumors swirled that they had hooked up because Kayla posted a picture wearing a ring that there is known to be wearing and they're posted pictures of like Kayla's very identifiable tattooed arm in the pictures. What's that about? Why are they together? And Dave van speculated. Listen I got to be in the mix jemmy chimed in the backs not a PR stunt. Which that she can't speak to things that are not that are have not aired now. I also feel though Jimmy. I can't speak things but also like I got this information from a variety of great up culture websites everybody has written about this in that covers like the MTV beat them. Okay 'cause we cover the TV beat right. Yeah we do our press. Stats a real throwback. All right so then. Mikey tweeted during after the show had films like to answer a couple questions. I have no idea what's going on at all. I'm as losses you KAYLA and I have so many amazing times together over the past three slash four years. I would never talk bad on any of that or her. No one is trying to be an X. On the anything FLAT FACE IS OPEN. Emoji not to be confused. The flat plate face flat is emoji. And Kayla responded. We not make this a public spectacle. This this is no one's business but ours you act like I haven't contacted you at all and that is not the case. I've told you time and time again that we will talk when you and I are both back in Vegas. That's the last. I'll say on that and mikey responded to that. Like me question. Imagine cheating on your boyfriend on television and then telling him not to make all grey logic. Recently in February though Kayla did tweet that Mikey cheated on her the entire relationship. Mind business so that she no. She said my business. I don't have to realize in the tweets come on. I'm a journalist now really so. Interestingly Enough Kayla has left Vegas. She moved to Florida with Noni and Marie. And it's actually very entertaining to follow Maria and their antics on social media. Okay so they're living in like basically Boca with each other and old folk vista Kayla since January now Brian. You need to be if you're really going to cover the challenge. You need to be watching ex on the beach. He of love Kayla has been dating. Sam Bird who is from levion. Uk who appeared at the beach peak of love since January and did not meet him on ex on the beach because she was not on it. Ironically this is the funniest thing people accused her and Mikey of fake breaking up on the beach and she responded that she'd rather late herself on fire than ever be on that. Show now eight. Someone from that show is really the sweetest thing of all. This Cork Bird Cork Board to like follow this stuff. I know it's like I'm Charlie Day. Read Shrink but I am upset because I thought crack this case ice took a screen. Grab of the Kayla. Tweet she re tweeted a video with him and it recently and then he tweeted a like just my luck girlfriend for a few months now banned from her country and I was like literally me with the red string and then like apparently was very public January. Out of myself okay. So that's what we're going to see unravel to give the background and the flash forward on what's going on. I think to come into the season. All you really need to know. Is that bears. Notorious like cheater and manipulator and hooks up with everyone on these shows and Kayla was in a three year but now as she expresses unhappy relationship. But that's a danger putting on instagram and social media that like your relationship perfect. Is that when you cheat on your boyfriend and National? Television people are like what happened. You guys perfect so maybe watched the show. You're on yeah there's no hiding For Kayla this is all coming home to roost so I want to talk about the living situation. How they're in a bunker but maybe we should stay on topic and talk about the hookups. Our show what do you think living keep on with the HOOKUPS? Okay you know. I saw the trailer and took screen shots to figure out who is hooking up in this five minute problem proud of you know. I'm not GonNa just let a hookup go by and not know exactly who that is. Okay and I took the screen shots because there's one person I cannot identify and I thought maybe I would send it to you and see if you can identify on my phone ready in less. Do you need to email to you? Email ready to actually going to send. Nba smoke signals to open. Like we have to ask you for your email. Maybe not on the PUCK is okay. Let me just go to eat? Cat would have your email save for the social. Also when I don't have your number saved Ryan could give me season. Okay sending this Brian. Making for excellent casting all right. Let's talk about the first couple. I give you some time to focus on. Who the person the Red Bandannas and this Oto But the first hookup we see is Noni and coming to you straight out of Israel stopping I and argue the one and the are either one game show. That happened after. Are you the one whose name escapes me? Second Chances Whatever Asaf who's got everyone's going to put your his name Ace off. Asaf and ninety locking lips in the preview dear God ninety. What are you thinking? I mean this is this is about sometimes you need like a constant in the world through all the chaos and just having Noni in this world hooking up with someone like it's just what we need them just you know this brings us back to reality that the world is still normal speaking of consonants. I knew you were going to say something to that season. So Kelly is this her eleven seasons. Look back us. How free agents was. He's twenty five. You shut your mouth not even not even one heck on a few more are the ones where a now for about that sweet. Sixteen for hot casting seasons can't even talk about that. Okay now you've had plenty of time to go over the woman in this photo is D- I think unless it's somehow Kayla there but I think it's because then they they go to a photo of rogan looking pissed which I'm sure didn't even happen. But it almost could be mattie now. I think it's probably the but so it seems like it's I think it's easy. Isn't that Kyle? I okay. I think it's Kyle into hair is weird which means it might be. Kyle and the other thing based on the hair. This is someone with a is that are those twos that almost looks like someone just scrawled it on with a pen it could be because none of his hands tattooed. Bandanna the hair I it seems like Kyle I agree. I think it's most likely accept. This person look shorter than Kyle but he is doing a significant amount of crowd. It was a club scene. So what could be sitting in heels things going on all right also good for the I would never promote someone hooking up with Kyle but I'm happy to see D- hooking up with someone who's not Rogin yes. I really hope that goes on. There's no Rebound or bounceback. Situation there between them to Hanae pull up see. I'm really out of practice. I can't pull these questions up as quickly as I used to. I might not have pulled it. Because like Rogan indeed. Disgust me but it was someone asks. I'm sorry I didn't pull it. I'll get better rogin. Ask someone Rogin did not ask. Somebody asked if Rogan indeed like have any chance to be like working together. What do you think about that? I I think there's there's probably a better chance to them. Maybe trying to work together than getting back any type of romantic situation happening. I could see them at least in the beginning of the game not going after each other and trying to maybe keep like a UK type aligns together or something like that in the beginning but long term. I don't see speaking by long-term which is so fun because these from Australia but will forever be exactly as we'll see but but yeah I think I think D- showed that show show like jerked around by someone but like do what's best for her game wise like I think she did forgive Rogan without really understanding. What happened last season? But I think the would end up being loyal to Rogan. And we'll all like Shakur and frustration. So I'm happy to see this clip of her Mac in it even. If it isn't Kyle back I don't don't ask me back. I don't know I haven't heard that in a while All right let's talk about the living situation and then we'll ship ears and I'll be quiet but is there anything I missed in the in the trailer you wanted to talk about. Let's talk about the bunker all right. Let's talk about the bunker so they're living with no doors no windows no natural eight undergrounds probably might be replaced to be right now but yeah. That's their living situations. What do you think about this I I think he's probably add stuff to the first couple of episodes but again. I don't know what it adds long term outlook with MBA. Able to swim in a pool and dewlaps like taking away from the game. Sometimes edgy drama. Because people weren't working out and stuff like that so I don't know I don't need them to be in a bunker for this escalate game. Play or something like that. I agree I absolutely hate. This is my first reaction was also sort of like. I hope. This doesn't go the whole time. I don't see any value in like putting them in like mentally compromising situations. Maybe this is madness. Like you're GonNa go matt like I don't need to put them in like you know padded rooms to emphasize the drama. I want them to be in like a mansion drinking having fun in like sexy situations for the social aspect and then come to compete in the game. I don't want them to be fulltime. Living and basically like a final situation or they're like in a highly pressurized stressful environment. I think if they want to use this as like the losers go there by the time you go. They'll or something like that. But like for twenty four seven I I think. Probably the middle of the season. We're going to forget that they're there and it's going to be storyline and we just GonNa wish that we were watching sunlight. We just like have a little fun. I know everyone takes a challenge. Show seriously now especially because there's no more sports like who just have a little bit of fun please. Don't need them in a cage on these cases all right before we I keep saying before we get to talking about people we got. This question from Nicole Horne. Who Ryan what are you doing? I'm going out to the people a meeting the people at Kayla's fantasy land and I'm bringing them to the challenge Nicole Horne. This is going to be my first challenge. I'm very were you. What does a fantasy land? Where's on this? Do you have advice or like what I should expect as a first time viewer now. I can't say that Nicole is only tuning in because we've met. I'm assuming she's shooting in because of the big brother people but Brian. What are you giving to? What are you doing to increase the audience of this podcast? I doing doing literally nothing. I'm tweeting about every every like seven days. I think that's usually my goal. Is I just toss him a child's tweets as he does very well? That's that's how I spent my streets. I'm taking to the streets. I'm bringing in listeners. I'm sorry I'm taking credit for the listeners. That FECI and billion Swaley or bringing in people hold up signs like Oh. We're all in this together. We'll get through this. Maybe I'll just hold up a sign that says watch the challenge Wednesday nights and they'll listen to our that's our challenge is listed out so we are but if you want to. We're going to talk about the influx of survivor person. People an amazing grace people but not call. I think is asking a question that I meant to start out the show with but then we got. We got rolling and I want it to rail the rolling on on the trailer talk. So let's talk about this. What Brian can you do to ease? Nicole's years of jumping in the season for the first time. So you just have to. Don't take the show to seriously. Don't you're GONNA non understand some of the past relationships and well leads to some of the decision making just go along for the ride. You'll have fun with. It is take it for what it is don't want to be so as structured and rigid because the rules are not gonNa make sense. You'd like to know what's going on. They might change us with episodes. Just don't take any of that too seriously. Just watch your further chaos and enjoy that. I think that's very good advice. The I have told people I've met in person who are like. Oh I don't watch the challenge so I don't listen to podcasts. I'm like I WANNA hear. That should try so if anybody else in addition circles giving the challenge at dry. You're welcome for doing this preview. Podcast I think this will help. I think we'll we'll try to map. Some of the relevant relationships as Bryant said this. It's twenty seasons long some of these relationships so these go back decades. You don't need to know all of it. Mtv likes to kind of tell you the history so they will tell you what's important to know And Otherwise Look Brian. I have not come in new to the challenge recently. So it's hard for us to reassess what you need to know but a lot of new viewers have started recently and I haven't heard any complaints so just you know. Come along with us and we'll try to as the episodes by like. Oh this would have been good to know Yada Yada. We'll get it wrong. But we'll say it. I think editors a reality shows a really good job of the flashbacks as I've seen it with Bravo's on Van Department. Something that shows really. You're doing a good job of doing nice callback key moments to make new listen watchers. I understand what's going on so when this moment needs to be fleshed back to I trust. Tv We'll we'll do it because they've been doing recently and is there anything she didn't ask this which. I'm offended by. But is there anything Brian that we need to tell new listeners of our podcast? What if they didn't in the last twenty six minutes? Lean enough information. Yeah I would say this is probably the only time we're both going to be on the same time so prepare prepare for that. I say that I have no plans to leave my apartment anytime soon. Brian. Chaos our podcast. Just take too much structure and rigidity and just enjoy for what it is. I we don't know the most. We also don't claim to know the most you know we were here relatively early. And you know we're like your grandmother like just like gross a bone how more I just aged us from anti grandma congrats to one of our nephew's etiquette or August right. That's Cohen Brian Child. They're always doing. I don't stop and wonder although Amanda Congratulations to Amanda Challenge of veteran who had a baby. Since we last spoke her name was not lascher. Alison Colin Brian. To See it is. Are We talk about these people or do you know honestly think we gave enough we gave with MTV? If like that's it right yeah more before that or are we actually at the at that. I think we're at that but I'm suggesting we just end the podcast. Now why do more work than MTV did certainly did it? Us ANYTHING IN THEIR BIAS. All right I don't really know we talk offline about how we were going to do this. I don't know where we came down on so let you decide on the air. Live how we're going to do well. Let's say so. We're super excited about is saying we'll say someone that were not excited about and then we'll say there all right so yeah keep offer like people are like who are you most Rather than going out for medical. We'll just we'll we'll do like this and if you don't understand that's the brakes mids the bricks we'll get we'll get to all twenty eight people in motor no matter what so. We're all getting all people forget right. Who are you most excited this ad? Let's not suggest that this is like in order of? Who's the most excited right unless you want to? Throw this out as your number one. No I kind of just like I was going to. The castle is awesome and buckets. I didn't have any Particular ranking order. But for me I. I'm so happy that Jordan is still one hundred percent back in this world so for going forward. He's always excited to see the best chance to win yet. So much so much drama and strategy and he's a huge target this season so him being back in fully back and can seemingly seemingly coming back. I'm super excited. That the original future of the challenge. Now become the future of the challenge. Yeah I was GONNA ask you. Were going through this. I was like Oh God. He's GonNa call them the future the challenge and then he's GonNa quit again. We have a couple of people. You've called the future of the challenge you talk about. The seasons of the curses is broken. May Be with the season I to Jordan on my list of most Jordan is chaos. Jordan is not someone who plays ease like historic alliances. Relationships Jordan is flexible. He's insane he's wild He's a true athlete. In every sense of the word. He also comes on. Maybe we'll throw Tori here authoritarian my most excited to see so we can talk about them together maybe Tori was also on my list. They got engaged. They have a wedding to pay for. They are perfect Yin Yang. I think they're very fun to watch on. And off the challenge on social media. I don't have enough good things to say about them. Interestingly though I feel like a lot of Jordan's main enemies are not here in Pali. Kara Yeah I think though. He's he's not going to first of all. He's very quick to make enemies so I felt that I would also these. He's going to have such a gigantic target on his back for the entire season that he could have people that like them. They're still going to be at least been the back of their mind. Contemplating how do we get him out? And I mean they'd be stupid not to but tell me. Show me a person who wants to go against Ori Orr Jordan limitation. That's very true. That's very true. They're probably going to benefit the most for new viewers or people who watch this show like me and can't remember Shit Jordan Tori had to like win out all the time last year as they were like the main targets on the UK team after switching and even when they're on the USDA so there are no strangers to elimination. They're going to be fearless when it comes to going in eliminations. Hopefully it don't have hubris which during intense to have But I'm excited. I mean there. There are the rare powerhouse. That's not afraid of competition whereas bananas it is strategy agree that avoided. Elimination strategy is a plays more of a scared game than Jordan does an art. I'd agree sodas West and so it's not like an anti venom furniture. I'm scared just watching home. I play scared watching game to. Who are you least excited to see? What the positive negative so. This is a problem. Fortunately she went straight there the second I saw her. He's very pleasant but she just doesn't add anything anymore. And that's Jenna. Sorry she's she's there. She's a lot of promise first. Couple seasons seemed like she was this great competitors. He hasn't done much lately all seems like she. We're GONNA have the classic episode for getting into a fight with Zach and that'll be ended so I love you janice she's very sweet nice but I am not craving Seymour Jenna. This is amazing to me because talk about the evolution through how many seasons already forgot. Did you say we've done eleven seasons at the challenges like what the Lucien and you just say? You're not excited to see you know I I came on a yeah I mean. It's sad like she. A first year was nothing on the real world. I don't really care about her. Then she came on Chelsea. She's great and now she the peak. We reached a peak. And she's a flattening. I we flat in the car with China. I do think Hernani haven't gotten that much facetime terms of their friendship and then being on the show together recent in recent seasons but I agree. She was in my everyone else. We both had. We didn't talk about this but we both ended up having a throwaway like they don't fit into any category. We're not offended by them. But we're also not excited. She was in that category. So I think that's fine to put her here my agency and this is not my mostly excited to see but I imagine that this season will be the last season that he's in this bucket for me one more time. I'm putting Josh in my Lisa. Say to see category. Yeah I thought I had them like hovering away where because I would expect to be excited but I think josh had like a very impressive showing US using so. I'm excited to see if you can replicate that. So I guess I am sort of excited to see so for people who are just joining us or who have forgotten Josh. Went from being like for me personally. Like the bottom of the barrel in terms of challenge contestants like the drama felt manufactured with him and gus like the relationships he pursued manufactured. The he wasn't that good in the challenges glass season was really like a renaissance him e was sort of like he was a very good narrator. I think he was a good foil. All in Kara in Georgia thinks somehow worked out for him came from nauseating too far. I need one more season right now. I'm still I still have the gut instinct for like. Oh is he really adding stuff? I think he'll be good on this season but I just. I had to honor my gut reaction. That's that's for me if you must people so for me for surprise almost anyone. That's a rookie. Season is surprised. Because I didn't expect like I didn't know where there would be like. We've reached the point of the show where we don't know where they're going to get people. It's not like we can expect from the real world and somebody. That's almost all rookies surprise and kind of excited this between the big brother people. I guess like I'm the person that's like. I guess surprise or non excited but all the rookies for me are in the surprising bucket. Picking all of their. I'm taking all now you can't take off Iraqis I'll start. I don't have them on suppress. Let's shake it up for us all star with the to the to surprise excited to see and that's Swaggie and Bailey. I think those are pretty good. Picks from the fries are excited by the. That's why we can't do a draft surprisingly excited so then talk about them in the next round. Who are used to prize? Obviously all right whatever. I unsurprisingly had been leased excited to see and I also group Bailey Swaggie unfussy together. Talk about them individually. Let's talk about them as a trio. At least I think Kayleigh maybe belongs elsewhere. Do you WanNa talk about all four of them show. We were talking about them individually together. I here's why I'm not excited to see Bailey sagging fussy. 'cause I'M A HATER? But also like they were like people are going to come from the big brother fans going for me and I don't care very rational level-headed. They don't react poorly or over the top. I don't know what you're talking about Swaggie. Bailey are insane so for anyone who didn't want bessie. They were part of like the least successful alliance their season which I found out as valid words with friends word. Why there's no definition is valid Bailey and SWAGGIE got engaged after the show. They're still together. They're actually married. They secretly married. They now have plans to get married in. May I actually? I'm really sad for them. I hope it doesn't get canceled. I hope they're all free of all of this situation by then. Unfortunately maybe that won't be the case. I do feel bad for them. Not a monster. Maybe we'll be like Paulie look. I have to just honor my truth to live my truth like Caitlin would tell me to do but to me. I didn't love them on big brother. Fasih is an athletic. How do we describe his athletic dudes goofball goofball but like is it fun like? I feel like he's just a little. Does that make friends? There's not a lot going on between the years. I'm a good-looking guy was relationship. Is He still with Haley? No they broke up but it was sort of like Bailey Raggi fussy and Haley or like the couples of the house at season. I maybe this will be a better. I have more excitement for Bailey and Swaggie than I do think bailing swagger he strategizing and outrageous and weird and like get become hated but also make inroads. I have no idea what he is going. To bring justice. We got kind of short change with Swaggie with him. Being what else so quickly. I think his personality could really thrive in this type of environment and I think if he gets his feet under him he can. He can last a fewer. I think he can make an inference similarly to Paulie. I don't know if you'll live the success that Paulie is how for whatever success. He's Ad but I think this is the realm that swaggie should be. I think Bailey is another just strong female competitor. That's GonNa add even more to this crop of female players that we've that we've been adding the last year so I think both of them are right for this world. I think they are very like likely to be thrown in especially given the new format like I think. This hurts their chances because swaggie athletic dude. But he's definitely a smaller guy as compared to the like behemoths on the challenge. So I think he might be an easy hit. Somebody might put him in earlier than Essex just based on size alone. I'm sure that will be the case. Well like bear. I think he could win at like. I don't think he has no athletic ability. I just think he might be an early target. So probably be like mouthy and small all true but I think if it's passed that think this is this is his arena to really thrive. Okay have you been to strategies instagram lately? No but I was actually just trying to find it. Okay well I have is bio- I don't have the handle by do have his bio and did you know. That's raggedy is a day trader C- announced probably not the best time to do that. Not only is he day trader but he has an online training course where he provides a phone number for course information. I obviously went to his website that I forgot to post linked to year but I think we have a new lease SWAG ECONOMY DOT com. Yeah go to that website for me. Just shut my phone now. He's got a nice sticker at the top with all the you know some parts. He's got a mission. WanNa know what the mission is? Please you want to enable aspiring traders to learn the four x market via a fun and easy to learn platform with a nice little graphic of you know going up and down? There's nothing that instills confidence in online. Financial Education Tool and being called the Swag Academy and of course it's a dollar have been there six so shout shout out to swaggie. Hustle ed if he's supporting himself as a day trader. That's great but I don't know that it's worth seven hundred dollars or whatever to do a little one coaching support. But it's seven fifty but alas point is huge and probably makes it worth you get a free shirt so you get a Free Swag Z. Shirt so old. That's probably seven fifty so it always say that Swaggie has the entrepreneurial spirit he is like one of the main people came into the Big Brother. House already with branded merchandise. Ready to go. Everybody was wearing so you see crap and so. Are we going to see more swaggie merchandise on this season Chow? Oh I'm sure I'm sure if the costume thing he'll probably dress up as a giant sea or something like that. So it'll be ready to go credit on one of the craziest fights on the show where she bit her tongue during a fight on big brother so her mouth was bleeding so like imagine challenge level rage. But like what is dripping out of your mouth so yeah. I am surprised to see them there because I just didn't know what they will be going down this road who they'd be picking them. Did you say anything about? Where are you at with this? I mean firstly. I mean you probably of all the people that he probably the best chance of doing the bashes because of his athletic nature is how big and seemingly. He should be pretty good at this stuff but yeah. I don't know what he's GonNa add elsewhere. The most charismatic is not the most smart guys always gonna add in other areas. But like we always say you want a wide ranging grouping of people want everyone to fit in certain buckets for the show so they'll fit the You know the joss bucket. I guess for the season De Vesey is the archetype that I have no time for like. I just don't think he's going to be good at relationship building. I don't although he was relationship building and big brother. I don't think he's going to be good enough at challenges to intimidate. I think he I think he will go the way of elphick of Victor. Where like he's on your sort of like I guess accents. He's athletic and like US fired on big brother so like I understand the casting and then he does like passable and a few challenges. That goes home early like that. That's where we never hear from him again. That's that's my prediction. Definitely definitely on the range of outcomes. Let's talk about this Logar. Anything is him being on the show in the range of outcomes. Let's talk about Casey also from big brother. Yeah I think she's Carl. I would say the female ESI right. She's not going to be much anything other than probably. Pretty good at some of the challenges. I think she'll be better than Esi and I think women will be more intimidated by her than the men will be by Vesey Fisher case. He's not like an overwhelming physical specimen. So she'll she'll she should be able to slide a little bit by like that but I'm saying I think people will be more. Intimidate women will be more intimidated by Casey than intimidated by? I think he'll be the bigger target going in. I think if you don't really while you watch KC season of big brother. I don't know why you would think should be some great athlete or anything like that so I think the people would be looking at Fussy more for that. I think has a very athletic build. And then her sort of archetype rate comes out of the Evelyn and the Laurel and the Nicole just like this fit woman like not like to me. Nominees not going against Casey Jenner. DoesN'T WANNA Call Out Casey? But but we'll see I she strikes me as a very physical looking woman but Yeah I don't know like personality wise. I don't think she'll add a lot. I think in terms of where she was at with big brother for anyone who didn't watch brothers. She was in like the very tight. Six Person Alliance that made it all the way to the end. Her game is sort of her brand loyalty and all those boring things. She's athletic and she's loyal and she can stick with a big group to the end so kind of a yawn. We'll see how the challenge house like shakes. Her up are just was on his way over to Kaitlin Herman's and it's amazing how much she looks like Jessica from Lewis Line. That I can't like unsee it anymore. It's wild crazy and they're like the same personality to the person is like ten years old is like a feature all right so let's get out of the negative or well. I guess maybe that covers my surprise to see too. I don't know that was a whole whirlwind. So let's not go too far within the rules. Let's go to. We'll move to euro six. I just say this. This'll be a little bit surprising having given. I haven't been that Nice there in the past but like I'm excited to have an ISA back. I think you know she's been off a little while. I think those are the whole new crop La Young women in his. I think having like an old veteran and then to try to like she's GonNa have a veteran quips and somebody that I haven't heard in the mix with this group could be fun. So I kinda like this little throwback of having her back I know I never remember anything but I do recall debating you on whether or not an Isa added anything to the challenge. I think this is like the perfect. Another perfect example of if you go away for a few seasons no matter who you are outside of like you know if you're actually prices people will miss you and be happy that you're back so. I think it's fun so this is interesting. I had her surprise to see. I am surprised to see her back. Oh she was pursuing another degree or a higher education. Some sort maybe. She finished up in his back. I'm not sure where she sort of. Is that other nieces. Kind of good at letting us know where she's nauseous. I'm sure we will find out it's an ISA's thirteenth challenge. It's really blew me away. That's same a number of challenges as West I would have been higher historically in our podcast on an ISA. I'm sort of like did an ISA miss the boat. I would be very happy. Elated for you to be right on this and heard really add a veteran whippy perspective. Like Jemmy in these Sorolla. I would be thrilled for that. I hope that's true. That's not my expectation going in. I think it's fun. The have someone like car as opposed to a lot of these like Like I know she's back like Melissa. That's really only there for like drama. And are they having heard? There is like a balance I think is fun. I don't know where she's GonNa find n roads with this group. I also don't know that while she is powerhouse and eliminations. I think she's someone that's going to continue to be a target. If it is the case that people get some say and like people arrange okay. I want to go against someone weaker earlier on so that I can Kashmiri tickets to the final. Let's throw Noni up in here. I don't know where you had her. I had heard my everyone else. Category A hatter not excited to see but then when you described her hooking up with Asaf and I was like. This is what we need then. I got excited to see her because I like it. Feels right having her in this world doing exactly what she's every season since she's been on the show doesn't change. She's every time I have to change. I had to be better than who I've been every season. She comes on and she was actually in person disrespect that I am happy that our life. So yeah they're dropped. The nominee is just like non as a true veteran of the game. Noni has never won. Correct Ninety is very close bananas but Schmultz Ruus and like we never really know who's gotten on his back. She hadn't made mainly drama. Leroy last season. He's not backed. We won't see that to who knows where NONI will fit in the season but the reason I bring her up with an ISA is because we got a question from Jordan Spencer between a niece. Noni who have yet to win. Okay confirm which one is more likely to ever win or make it to the yet. They both have what the other needs. Non is decent in the daily challenges but mediocre and eliminations while and nieces decent in the eliminations but mediocre the daily show. I would say nineties most likely to make it to the right. That was the only thing I can win or make the Noni because ninety I would say because she's been on more recently would at least have more people have her back that you could reach over like an ISA. I'm excited to see me so I'm not expecting her to be there much longer than a few weeks but I. I just usually have anyone on her side ninety. Will I think have some people in the mix productive? Yeah I think Noni I agree with that. Take I think nominees most likely to make it to the n? On a normal season. I think maybe and Lisa's more likely in this elimination like I think noni could very easily get knocked out in an elimination or would be someone who would be a target also in eliminations in this format depending on how it works out but Nani does have more protectors she also is more willing to mix it up but I think we even saw that on last season like Noni will mix it up with the new people to you and play ball there and for some reason. I don't think like bananas. We'll get mad at her for doing that. So I think she'll get protection from both sides in a way which I think is makes her stronger over niece overall. I are you making paper over there. What's going on? I don't. I'm not doing anything. I've scratched my nose. I picked up the phone all right so that was your most excited to see. Yes I'm GonNa pull out someone we talked about or we alluded to earlier is being someone who you have called. The future of the challenge then went away for a little bit. Who's now back? I'm going to pull out cory. This is his seven challenge thinking MTV for providing that. I it's it's no surprise solicitors. I'm a big fan of the Corey. Cheyenne Rider K. family. I don't watch teen mom but I do follow them all very close in instagram and I told myself during teen mom just premiered last week so I figured I will watch it while I'm in quarantine ethically. I think. Corey is a good athlete. If we'll see you how his knees do. But he's fun and he's funny and like his like. I like his little quips. Here released one of the funniest. Like just flip the switch teams. I've ever seen check that one hundred scrim a couple life update from corey for anyone not following stocking as well as soon as I am. Corey was dating Taylor from ex on the beach. They broke up. They wreck together that she is now pregnant with a girl and two corey. We'll be having a second child with Taylor's second. Mtv Baby Allah. Tony Raines. Say That by the way some really just click on my brain. I trying to figure out who that new girl from Vanderbilt rules. Looks like the blonde girl. She looks like Taylor try. They figured it out. All right. Okay you can say to you so so so. I'm happy to see quarterback. I think he's GonNa be fun to be Dad Corey Right. He's not going to be messy. But I think it'll be a fun spot. I'm happy to see quarterback. I'm happy surprised. I didn't think he thought he he moved down from my curse. Cottam and he and he was gone but yeah I think being in the mix is fun. I think he he. He's the fun personalities good enough in the challenge to make an interesting helping the MIC. So I I'm happy. He's you know we can have some of the young bucks in this world all right speaking on. Let's let's move till he's excited to see. Who Do you have your food? Was you'll leaning towards Nelson and I'm not GonNa have that happen because he's very much excited but we'll get to that later if you ask you this a year ago. I would say J. someone that I was excited to see. But based off a seemingly you the way you described his poor excellent the beat showing and it's just not share. He's needed in this show. I feel like at this point. Someone else from survivor should've been breaking this mole in a not happy that it's him. Yeah I totally agree with that. Taking it was also excited for me. I am shocked to say this. I think Jay had so much potential from going from survivor. But then really isil out on ex on the beach Just joining us or you need the refresher J. showed up as an act of Morgan. Willett to his brother over the top and basically they tried to make it work and then Morgan was on the challenge. Shacked up with bananas after the challenge. They were partners. J shut up like you cheated on me on the excellent Mitri Union with bananas and she was like I never cheat on you but like we are together now so six and a half dozen other whatever but J. A. Showing up here after kind of like being pretty whiny and boring on ex on the beach now. Maybe because he's not in love and pursuing sub one it will be an imprint. You'll be more interesting and more fun but it's very unclear to me where bananas and Jay are going to stand. I think Jay is like number one guy to be targeted for his size. And because he's a rookie early on eliminations. I don't know how he's going to hold his own. I J did demonstrate a willingness to mouth often bigger dudes e- what to- what tiptop toes with Corey from Big Brother? Who's our next on the beach? Who's a bigger dude? He may because you know you're not gonNA get hit on next on the beach but you will get hit in the nation so I don't know where Jay is GonNa fall. I don't expect them to see him on here for that long. I really hope I almost hope him. Graduating from ex on the beach to the challenge means that MTV will be willing to dip into the survivor. Well even more because I guess. They liked him on ex on the beach if they're bringing him again for the challenge. Yeah I don't know where him in been on a stand. I wish Morgan was here because I think I would. At least be interesting. I don't know what's going to happen with after their. Yeah I think if you're doing a first one out pool I think Jay's probably one of the first picture with it for sure I felt like I could see him being gone quickly and then probably never being seen again. Josh Greene's has does Jay have any chance? Did his past Morgan. Bananas GonNa make sure his. I've Kinda prologue you later. I think this is a very good chance. People can rally behind him as being someone to kind of get there when and and go from there. So I think Jay's close to join debt there's also nothing bananas loves more an excuse to take the easy way out without making it look like it's easy way out to bananas is pregnant. Mouth off. About how like J. J. cooked his is goose was cooked or whatever by what he said about Borgen and how he treated mortgage and how he said things to him and act like he's all heard about that and then put him into elimination even though it has nothing to do with that and he just wants to go against someone easy. I could see that being the episode episode storyline. I've lost track. I think I'm up with lease excited. And it's my last person to see. Ooh That's why. Hey like that for positive liberty during these trying times and people are probably going to get at me about this. I don't know if you'll see I with me on this. But I put Rogan here Interesting knowledge why Rogin to me is going to be so self assured and so sure in that he can replicate his game from last season and to me like you cannot replicate game this. This is sort of like how I analyze survivor returnees when I have to talk about them with rob like you can't replicate lassie's it like. That was so insane that a team would eat themselves that those dramas would run so deep that people would actively self sabotage that people would misunderstand the format of the game and that you would you know almost intentionally matt seeing yourself down to having four people and then that advantages you in the final and then you win the game and you screw over a woman that you claim to love and she still works with you like. There's just no way that that could ever happen again. Lightning could not shrink twice like that. And I don't think Rogan is going to recognize that and he's GonNa be cocky is helped so annoying also. He's not like he's not on at all to me like in a way that bears annoying. At least it's fun. Rogan has all the qualities of bear and none of the joy. Yeah I think that's all fair but I think that's kind of why I'm excited to see him. Because I'm I'm waiting for the awesome crumbling down on him. I think that's going to be fun. That he's GonNa. He had this perfect ride less. He's in and it's going to go very poorly. I'm kind of excited to see that all right. Who Do you have next surprise? See I'm surprised to see big tea back. The fact that she's getting a second call back is quite the upset. I guess you really made a huge impact like basically limitation episode. The way she battled. It won't but I was stunned when she was popping up on the cast list. So we're gonNA correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we did speculate about not getting the right back. I think she has a very memorable name. Like the fact for anyone who wants to be on the show like yet a nickname like big t and people will just remember you receive your little. I think that helps. I definitely had earned surprised to see but I do think we did say that there is a chance I was just I. You could speculate that. There's a chance but then to happen. I was surprised. Say they're gonNA do that well so I think this is her to ask. That's air. I'M GONNA put Mel on the table. Another person who was sort of gone very early on in her first two seasons and I think we also did speculate that potentially she could come back at and even question why she hadn't been back because in her relatively short stints. She did bring so much drama. That I'm surprised by but I am surprised to see your back in a while. I mean she's in the same bucket as Kaley right like she's from the UK like drama drama with girls hopes up with guys get in the mix in kind of always is good enough in the house that she wouldn't be like reliability was a team fe but probably not GonNa win so she kind of fits that mold of being dabble in all areas and sort of a bad person. I've at least she did a lot of outside of the game bad stuff if I remember correctly so that's not great but I mean a lot of people. Aren't that great so that's okay. Yeah I think she brought a lot of drama I she also had one of the better eliminations with Sylvia. That was very memorable. They're all like had oil and whatever as dirty as it was. Actually a really. I think it was. It was one of the eliminations cemented. Sylvia's actually a physical player and Mel really put up a good fight there to of ended up going home on that elimination and then Kayla. It's interesting that Kayla's back with Mel. Because they were both eliminated on file. Reckoning was a final reckoning for physical violence so another thing to note mel and I don't know if it's GonNa come up or how it's GONNA come up. Lamelo is pregnant now and I believe was pregnant or at least sources are saying that she was pregnant but maybe didn't know it on this season of the challenge. Oh so he interesting. Mel Is GonNa be a mother's congratulations smell so we may never see her again. We'll see Amanda. I think you said she's done not that. You can't come back if you have kids. I'd actually like to see more women with kids coming back. It seems to be no problem for the meant back so retirement sound like me. Nothing like she could come back in two years. That was like one of my favorite things about the challenges people announcing retirement. When like you don't have to you know tying from baseball where goes to announce that that people don't like sign you when you're done you just go away for a couple of years and then come back if you want. I love that yeah. That's that's a commonly discussed trope For us on talents haven't gone into while but I do believe man has done a Dave. Oren also did like an unnecessary retirement. But we'll see how I felt for that. Apparently she does that all the time. But on this one so so far I m right all right so let's go back to most excited. I'm super pump. Rashly having her she's kind of like to me like the female Jordan. Just like in the mix in every conceivable way. Not We'll never pull punches. We'll get in fights with anyone off anything like it could be the smallest thing. She'll hop often go crazy because obviously one of the better competitors having won a couple of times is she's one of the strongest female betters all facets so having her in the mix is is makes a great season. Yeah I had her in my like uncategorized a lot of the long standing vets. I have been just sort of like what else is there really to say about them. But yeah never upset to see Ashley. One thing that I think will be very interesting is like okay. She adds the lavender ladies. They're all gone then. She has the family the family with Kara. And Kaley Cam. And I'm sure I'm forgetting some other people but I don't believe any of them are back. So now Ashley once again I mean maybe with the exception of one person whatever you know she was very against ninety and that faction of people last season so now we see Ashley once again having to come back with almost no friends and sort of start from scratch. And she's done it before but we'll we'll see what happens here and I think that the reason why she could do with is she doesn't get really emotionally attached. These people some people they form these bonds and they truly do think they're friends and they're gonNA ride off into the sunset with each other. Ashley sees this for what it is that it is a game. It's a lot of money and she's able to build relationships within the show and understand that it's just you know it's a means to an end and I think the fact that she's done it twice. I don't see any reason why she can't do it. A third time. The one thing I disagree with is I tend to agree but the one thing I disagree with. That is that like she doesn't get emotional about it like in the game. She is ride or die for those people and she will jump into fight and hope and like you said doesn't pull punches for those people and then I agree that she can step away and work with the enemy and the next game. But I don't know that those people are going to forget like Noni and Jenny Jenness by proxy of Naughty like will forget that Ashley was there screaming in the bedroom at them too. Just like Kara and everyone out but also would actually has built up such a level of like when she flips off a people that it's the fact that she gets mad at everyone. I feel people. Don't take it personally and that she just like. That's just mad that she's get super mad or crazy like she gotta. How's that going for a little bit that? She's people expect her to do that so when she does it to you. It's not as surprising or jarring. See that's never worked for me but we'll see another excited a person. I'm excited to see is Mattie I love many. It's hard to believe. This is only her second challenge. Like I'm still like that can't be right. Yeah no that's surprising specific impact I love Mattie. Matty's a beast Maddie's a good mix like we've been talking about of like drama and Fun and challenge beast. I don't see people really wanted to go up against Mattie also I you know I put the work in matty's been on floor Bam ashore this weekend this season so you know what I did. I followed her to floor. Sure she comes from like what's a party down south so it's not that far from her wheelhouse she got quote unquote invited for the weekend by Gus Year friend from the challenge and she started up with Jeremiah who I think it's like it's a short trip from the floor. Bam Ashore House to the Child Chassar Jeremiah. I just putting that out there but matt is so much. Fun and Flora Bama. Show is a fun show. I watch and I keep up with regularly but like it's a fun show to drop into and Mattie definitely had the desired effect that he wanted which is that people came to watch. I came to watch him. She's just like a barrel of drunk laugh. She's so much fun she's so smart. I'm I'm thrilled this year. Back on the challenge. I think she cheated super. Well I I'm around. It was at least a season goes so now. She's got a sense of what she needs to do to win. I think for for females. She's got a great chance to win this season. That that's how high upside is. I'll close. She was last time around so I think she she's going to be an extra shar. She's also going to benefit from like she has a close relationship with Kyle from when they were partners and I think they also like speech that's unclear And and car is not so like I do think a lot of people are going to get some room to breathe and room to play on different sides of the house different relationships without having to just have this line hatred toward everyone. Who's scorned are are most are drained out your lease excited category. Who else you got the only thing I love this surprise. Unhappy a great so maybe let's dip into the everyone else pool instead of lease excited because I guess that's kind of the same. Yeah I mean everyone. I don't know what else there is to say. I but then like this. Is You know fourteen. Fifteen twenty one seasons like this is who they are so I mean I guess of those who you any of them can win or who do the cat like as the best chance to win. I think all of them can win. I don't think all three of them can win together but I think any given season to me West Bananas. If you like roll the dice one of them will likely be in the final or one or two of them. I don't think it's insane to keep betting on bananas. Even though it's been fun to see him continually get knocked out I think a very personal al West is beer. Show distracting from a West Fan. I hate her in an instant. Dexter Series Finale thing but Jessica campaign interesting question about these guys wondering how much you think. Morgan willits outside relationship influence both bananas and West in the game normally to us as move to pick up the rookies however johnny will likely already know the BBC. Twenty rookies should assume the BB alliance will be guided by the Nana's. It's it's interesting one thing you know. If this was a few seasons ago I would say there's a good chance of that but I think the bananas has really taken a bake it recently so I don't know if people are going to be clamoring to work with him. I feel like if you're some of these newbies on big brother you know you kind of want to make a name for yourself you don't Wanna be thought of is like a Lynch mean follower type person so I don't think bananas is going to really have like a lot of people on his side. I I think people are going to want to go after him just to say that they slayed him and I. I think that we've seen recently. I don't think that's GonNa Change. See I don't know that these I always wonder if there's ever going to be a season where you know the the young bucks or whoever is actually going to stage an uprising and Westman. Anna's we'll have to work together in like a real way and like maybe I would say this season is primed for that because they are introducing enough connected. Big Brother people presumably. J. Somehow is connected to the big brother people the amazing race personally. There's enough rookies that when mixed with like a Jordan and Nelson and Corey and whoever else can sort of band together but given that. We also speculating. That Western. Panetta's are going to be against each other and elimination and unless it's because they're working together but I also think that Western bananas know that their value is in being a like they're they produce enough of the show to know their value is in them like being enemies. I don't think that's going to happen this season. Although I'd always welcome it I do think there's a good likelihood that Morgan and bananas have been working outside of the game on the big brother people and given how poor their strategy was and big brother as alliance. I I think I mean the sides Casey. I do think that bananas will be able to kind of like scoop. Them up lead them not because of his mystique not because he's Nana's but because a the format is such that the rookie really vulnerable and be that. They may have developed real relationships. Outside of the show and bananas is a charming person. Go ahead no. It's the fact that they were such a poor alliance. I almost think they almost want to over correct so much really show. That was like the exception. We can do this. We can do this on our own. Need I almost think that even further goes it? They're gonNA WANNA try to prove that they can do this on their own. I mean but what is. You can't do the challenge on your like. I almost think that would be. I don't think it's impossible because I don't think they're such a breakthrough. Tj lunch but that would be so stupid right like you do have to like Tori is being one of the most successful rookies to enter from a non real world road rules show and like really ingratiate themselves like she have the most exciting rookie season. No but I do think if you're learning the game at all right and I'm not saying this like it makes no sense to come in as like the four big brother people and be like. We're not working with anyone in the house. Yeah not even more so now working with anyone but not wanting wanting to elise pick who you're working with you bring them in like you feeling you're choosing to go and not wanting just be like under someone. I think they've they're going to build a lot. They're going to want to be in the mix calling shots and stuff like that. Yeah that's bold. That would be very bold and not and not impossible. I do think the advantage of bananas has of having Big Brother connection who sort of get around that regular bananas in calling. Our shots were friends with him. We know him and we have a seat at the table. Even though no one has to see that their organs even have a seat at the Table Bananas Fleet Interesting. Twist to what? We typically see with rookies coming in but to that end. I think it's fair that Wessex's strategy what really work on. Maybe won't work on them as well of like like. Maybe everyone's seen through not enough to know that they're not going to be manipulated by him. But it'll be interesting I don't they don't seem like the biggest force for cerebral power in my mind and interestingly you know Casey was not aligned with them but I don't know that that will like old brother wounds may have healed or maybe they haven't. Casey was like that the whole process so probably makes it easier. Okay where are we shall from everyone else? Bears sort of everyone else to be not in a way that I'm not excited to see bear. We know a bear brings bears not GonNa Change Great. He's become a better challenge competitor. Okay good for back barriers. What he has back Halio. Reseda it just discovering. Who Bear is is is. We'll be on but I mean this is going to be there for the foreseeable future. All right back up to most excited anyone else here I love the Nelson's in the mix is he just looks like a lovable guy. You know he just. He loves this show. And it's on the season passion. I map seem. We'll see if you cory. What the details with them who he tries to stupidly. They make a fool out himself. So it'll be fun that Nelson Back Nelson someone. I'm surprised to see back. I think we kind of like God. All the juice out of Nelson. I don't know what else Nelson Ads Jonathan Lilia says. Do you think young up. Stand a chance season Set up the young bucks for anyone new. Y'All box led by. This was a few season ago. Honnor Corey Nelson. Someone else in there was just those three. They tried to leave the coalition that you were describing before about these new people coming in not being led by the older veterans. They wanted they started of the game and they failed miserably. So we could see a big try to rekindle. What's new young box in the makes me some UK young bucks as we have abacus swirling by that. That's kind of young. How young box all the history and the challenges was when they put a name to it but maybe this time around. They can have a little bit more success. Yeah it'll be interesting to see where they go. I think they were sort of ahead of their time. I think now the challenge is more prime for people who are willing to take out bananas and West and go against them like you've been describing before the other people so I think there's more room to play than there was when they were the young bucks Nelson has had sort of a rough relationship road recently to catch people up. Nelson was with Angela one of my favorites on the challenge. I would love to see her back. She started on bad girls club and she's on excellent the beach then. She was on the challenge. She had a thing with Banana Nelson. She was dating Nelson broke up because Nelson cheated on her. Watch Youtube about it. Then they got back together and then very recently they just broke up again and I don't know that she's put out a video yet about what happened. I don't think it was on the challenge but who knows So you know Nelson Okay I'm not upset to see him but I don't know what else what other juices left there. Who Else is messy though? He is fully must All right I'M GONNA I'M GONNA put up. Kahlo talked about her but I'm happy to see Kayla back for her fifth time. I think there's more to come out of Kayla and she. She's sent home for violence. Hopefully she doesn't escalate. At that point again we talked about her relationship drama. Chino him to be here for her and Jenna are like the wonder twins from ABC. Her Jenna Noni no wonder triplets. And she's a good competitor gala for me like Jennifer not miseration for UK Jennifer. Clearly one of the strongest beam is again a decent chance to win. Doesn't really add much elsewhere. But are you jumping in with another most excited to see after Nelson? I was running into another just like this is just someone else there. I know what else listed in any other bucket other. That's except my excited to see Kayla. Also I I have Jenny who you're talking about perfect disease it keep going. I was just resting you. Were what was your change. She doesn't she's doesn't really add much personality wise. I don't think she mixed up in fights and stuff but she's fantastic competitors. She lost a unbelievable elimination to Tori last season. So I'm sure she's GonNa Remedy that and I think she's she'll be a competitor in the see. I'm hoping that Jenny has like I think there she has more to give. I'm really excited to see Jenny. I think she's fit as health are a British expression but she's actually very fit cheese one of the most athletic women to come on the challenge in a long time and she's got strong bonds or Jordan Tori like despite the fact that Tori took her out. They were really close. It was not like something they wanted to do. Go against each other. So I think she's really well positioned in a lot of the power house people with the powerhouse people on the show and I have faith that like she has more to give. I just think like she didn't have a lot of room to play last season. That's all very true. Okay I still have one person. I two people left in surprise stunned to see soft. I'm truly stunned. I kept forgetting like even though this cast was leak and then I looked at the cash announced and then when I went to prep for this I continued to be surprised or times. I was surprised that he's on this season. And they they don't even list which crazy is the. Mtv website does not even list the MTV credits for Japan. The soft but whatever. Asaf has been on big brother Israel. He's been on so you think you can dance. He's also been onto. Iterations vary the one he was Tories. Perfect match I think and they were on our either one second chance at love and happiness or whatever together talking on my behind now so I hope that's correct so who knows what Tori in a soft relationship has been. I do not know but I guess I'm excited to see me. I'm just really surprised. Yeah I'm surprised that they wouldn't list like the other. Tv Show on classic MTV do that but we just didn't see what he can do for himself. I mean he's athletic. He's like a dancer but he's crazy and he's done weird stuff outside the show also but for sure. Yeah I guess. I am sort of excited to see kyle. Only because I'm excited to see kyle without Paulie there so I think that'll be fun just to see what storyline and stuff that develops with him. They shadowed by this car. Paulie love triangle. So in that respect I'm excited to see what does this season. Because these doesn't have that looming over him molten Aaron also. I think I'm really wrong about what I just said about are the ones I need to. Okay yeah he was not at all stories. Perfect match not even close So everyone just leave me a lot. it's been a long time so but they are. They were on the same season. I think I don't know whatever remembers us off. Okay although people were you know a couple people were reminding me that one of my best and only good impressions from the podcast was my impression of Asaf. Israeli impression is like one of the only impressions I can do. So maybe we'll bring that back. I'm not sure we'll see about that. Some of them look forward to run. Get excited Okay what else we got. I'm still looking at. What about the amazing race about the amazing race girl? Yeah I'm surprised to see her. I asked I did talk to just gleese in some other amazing race fans. Her name is genuinely Jessica. Lease says she was the first one out on her season. And that's really all she has. She also directed me to look at her ridiculously anatomically improbable body which is normally not earth also comment on but it's like in Gotari instagram. It's like wild it's just. She's smallest ways of anyone. I've ever in my life so for anyone who's like why is she the first one eliminated on amazing race on the challenge? Go to her instagram. I'm sorry but that's clearly why she's on the show. She stunningly beautiful. I'm looking at her amazing race. By because like what can we find? Okay she's a professional model. She's from California. Will describe what you do. Hang out in front of cameras. Smiley Motor gone okay. Good for the challenge favorite hobbies swimming in any sort of body of water running down the beach hiking with my boxer Bronson. Anything adores. You're crazy I'm in. Sounds like she's ascribed. The challenge is her hobby I don't know what else to say about her. Mtv gave us nothing. Apparently she didn't give anything to the amazing grace. And she's like stunningly beautiful. So I'm surprised if only because the amazing race does not seem to have the overlap in the audience like my grandma watches the amazing race. She's not like coming over to the challenge to watch the first boot of music right. Did you have any thoughts on her? In her instagram. Just popped over there and your descriptions were accurate. I mean don't let your wife see on. That inspired me tell you. I think he's the last person we haven't talked about. Unless we're doing shit we normally do. Which is we forget. Someone dawn marking. I will know that it's the only person I have left. I also have nothing really same. Di Di came from like I. Everyone doubted her. She proved them wrong. She watched coming off a win. She's got extra. Select me here for D. I'm you know I think it almost would have been. We would have been probably left wanting more from. Dc was honest. He's not it would have been good for her to be there. But then I guess you could be forgotten about so season the maximum fine with it. I duNNo. She's she's back at the right time. Maybe after that like I feel like people still need to see the Rogan. Depaix off giving me. Does she didn't know what happened on the show so I'm excited to see her comeback Herbieres she wasn't there. I wouldn't be like Oh my God. Where's the Cindy Bowen says? Who are you most excited to see what we already talked about that? But who is missing back? No no but who is. I pulled this. Who is missing that? You wish was their car for share. We need our camp rang me a second time. I don't know if anyone's top of mind that I'm drastically visiting the other classrooms like Laurel Emily's with that but like reasonable someone that is starving Lee missing. I lear- in camera. Not here. I'M I I love. Cam has more to give Leroy like last season. Lee Really we. He portrayed broke heartless. Lassie is we need. We need like a season and we can go through that again. We need to go through it again. I I wish Lee rose there. They do appear to still be together. Lycee recently posted mushy instagram posts. I'm thrilled about that. Talk that Corey's back at Nelson's on probably you know hunter on are being mixed together would have been more fun now. I'm fine with hundred people. I'm fine if not being here. But that are noticeably absent. Ninja this. That's qualifying. You mentioned car but we're going to have to talk about it. Jonathan Forman says what effect will the lack of car and poly have on the season? Although if someone has engage everyone can have a fun time. That's for sure I think like finally like people are free like Dhabi is free like MTV's given us a sock and we're GONNA get to see people play without like free from the shackles of death. Stare air and negatively and I think this season is GonNa have a lot more. Join me a lot more fun as a result and not even the players are very. I think we're free because she's just like it just took up like so much of the show that it would like sucked energy out of so the fact that the show doesn't have to focus on it because of course they're going to have to focus on it is pick up so much of the drama and what people are talking about so the fact that this showed out to deal with it it will allow so much other stuff to blossom Lauren Pratt says which rookie do you? Guys think will be the most successful season successful to go furthest proud Casey. I think she probably has the best chance to where the thinks she's already. Probably one of the strongest females. So I think she's got the best chance to do that. Well I was going to say that to say yes. I did convince you that she looked physical but I I asked you. Think he's e- okay. Kyle Picard says. It's been awhile since we've seen people who are somewhat regular second who were somewhat regular for a second like Britney Tony Oh I understand okay. So you've seen so I MISS. Toni somewhat regular for some people who were regulars for a second like. Britney Toni Marie Sylvia jemmy Devon Dot dot dot CA. You think we'll see them on the challenge again or will recruiting from shows outside of MTV continued to be the power. Now I think we see people come back. I'm sure Tony probably gets calls. I'm sure he's probably say no with them. Having having kids and so that's probably why he saying though I think given the right time. I don't see any reason why those people can't come back. Yeah I mean Jimmy and Marie both kind of got and Devon got quote unquote offloaded to the beach. But I don't think that means they're offloaded ex on the beach. I don't know it seems like you know. Mtv's able to get people who like are drama. Starters who also compete better than maybe Jimmy. Marie but I will always be here for Jimmy. Emory coming onto the challenge. Jemmy was on the beach. People love she did not have love interest but she still the narrator that show inexplicably should no reason either kind of amazing another personnel. Shut off from on the beach is Marlin. Who was there? Miss Him Marlin was phenomenal on ex on the beach club. He's a jerk like he's a total F boy but he is one of the most interesting TV characters or saw if Isabel Smith he also is extremely fluid. He was like open to literally everyone on the show in a way that got him in trouble what it was so refreshing to see someone just like on an we're seeing a lot on MTV with are you the one and an ex on the beach but Marlin is true to himself. In a way that I don't think has like transferred from Rei. The one the flu season and ex on the beach to the challenge and not to discount. What like Laurel did coming into your own challenge. But for the most part I think we have still the remnants of like bigots past who keeps showing up on the challenge and we have great people on our either one and it's on the beach or not making that jump. I think Marlin would be a phenomenal person to make that to bridge that gap who is of the world of the challenge. I think him being in the mix on the beaches definitely increases his chance because Mike for People like him just his old keyboard and get a call it a comeback show unless he got his name back out there so the fact is on that show definitely as his chance of the comeback which will be fun he would. I think usually on one season and he was very successful. Very entertaining so income back would be a lot of fun all right so speaking of copper card. What do we want to do but the GYM DO WANNA pick a couple of keepers or odd? I think we can start fresh. I think we can usually keep a couple of keepers for the first episode. But I'm sure if we start fresh and chew some we're probably going to pick some anyway because I mean there's only so many things that go around so we can just probably just start freshman. We just duplicate that unless you had a specific when you really want to get. It looked at it yet. I expected us to put a few armed for the first episode. But we don't have to. I mean some of the ones that would what are your keepers anywhere like. I love looking date night EJ. So I guess if we're doing that I'll keep that no. No this is your thing. So we'll start. We start fresh next week next week. Whenever this show starts to be here next week an ex week next week times a flat circle right now. I know next week okay. So shall we start next week or should we start now? Why don't we just keep to for the premiering? And they will bill from their star. Because I have not looked so. Kyle sent us a list of every. I expected to do from last season. But he's sent us every rule that's ever been used which is like brutal so care. Middle School Yearbook or something. Okay so you start because I have this. Yeah I'M GONNA keep working on with the easiest wearing a button down and his hair slicked back and he knows going out for a nice dinner afterwards so I I love happened. That one okay. Let's go do you have your second one over. Should I think this was a fun? One that track any uses of British slang? Because there are there. There's I love this document. Use it but I love Ashley bringing up being such that. It would be funny if you if you chose to keep like one of if there's one very specific to a season obviously would have no chance of going through. Let's all right. I'M GONNA do one of those but I don't think there's no chance to come up. We don't know this is going to be rogue we don't know what the format is. But let's say uses the phrase burn. Vote like it. Here's a guarantee you when I come back about Dave and says ass imagine did the first episode. They liked playing. Like a flashback to do on what you old classic I don't think either mine are really gonNA come up like this one. I feel like we haven't brought this back in a while. Watchos probably unless season and you alluded to it in the intro. I think this is a good one to get people who are new to the game. It understanding the challenge producers. Change rule on the fly for you go. It's a classic episode one. I did really have an eye on the premier to visit. I picked so that that's what it comes back after. Like you have a clear understanding of the rules and all of a sudden like a longer time challenge and it's really based off of whatever is. We'll just happened okay. Anything else to talk about here. I don't think so I I saw you tweet. Tweet about the Premier B two hours. I think that's wrong. I think it is an hour and a half and then maybe there's an after show but I don't think the actual premiers two and a half hours. No I think I also think somebody later tweeted that like that's happened before we're like that is wrong. And then it's ninety minutes so I think every episode is ninety minutes the season I eight nine thirty nine thirty a little bit earlier logos survivor fans. That's true. Dvr So okay so a couple of things to plug. We're up for bid currently spot on this podcast is up for bid I don't know the link but you can tweet look at my twitter. I re tweeted it out. Pin The tweet and up until I think let me look at what when bidding closes really quick but you can bid to be a guest on our podcast and benefit students at Michigan Law who are pursuing public interest careers so working in areas of law. Don't pay very well. 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S2E108: The Shawn Harvey Morning Show 02/19/21 | Coach Drew | Women Interrupted

The Shawn Harvey Morning Show Podcast

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S2E108: The Shawn Harvey Morning Show 02/19/21 | Coach Drew | Women Interrupted

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That's the sunday the next day The that sunday right. Today's we have bigger. You know we're doing a comedy show and after party over at the i. N. new york come on out the spaces. won't be required to have a certain amount of folks in the building and we're almost reaching that level already. Hit me up fleas five seven zero ninety. Two six five zero We have Monique latino she's coming through She's hilarious man. Tim whole will close out the show against some local new. Jacks comedians is gonna perform well and you boy shot harvey's hosting the show and then we'll go to a after party with dj hot sauce. So you'll come on out is absolutely free. Two drink minimum minimum food minimum as well So you'll come on out and have a good time. yes way. umass of course The place spacious. We're going to do the social distancing thing of course we will If you don't feel safe you know wanna come out. Please stay home if you feel like you come out. Have a good time come through. We goggles gouzer kareem abdul-jabbar glasses big thing. She'll you helmets with the you feel comfortable where where you'll be fine We not stay in long. You know we're going to get in and out of their pores but come on now. We got a lot of people coming out already. Cats sunday march seventh at the mill. Eight thirty one. South delaware dr Eastern if you know if you have never seen a barbie cologne personally barbie there and You know you come and see the rest of the crew. Sydney be there at the same time. So i think that'd be a treat. As well barbie the cologne personally come on out. Hang out march twenty landau. That's something else Anyway April fools atlantic city that some now I if if the world has come to an end. Costa rica july twenty July twenty second through the twenty six. I wanna thank Some of our members who are coming down in costa rica with me. And we'll have a good time so thank you so much appreciate that. Oh and also april. the eighteenth. the sunday I mill but new york king talent of being a building. Okay so mother's they will tracks so nobody going to church on some of the two plays worst places. You want to be right now as a hospital now. Is this. go to church there. Cocoa with the bub-bubba says she ain't going back. Stand right so bobby colo on friday. I just wanted to say this. Ploy you first for coming out in this weather. Let's clamp you. Watch the bobby for me for coming out his because barbie just said and i'm going to We're going to hear her experience. Strength and hope with it. But bobby this morning i. I've been up since five o'clock this morning shoveling snow and ice and all that and they just took my time just job even though only live five minutes away. It's still alive and man. I'm proud of myself out there shoveling last night and in this morning i woke up and cleaned of tiniest car. She just walked down in car. Drove off like like. It was a sunny day died. That's what must be really nice giving clear my car. Yeah you might need a insa instable. Not just a car like instable she just like and she said thanks and i say goodbye. I wanna say this about this weather going on here in the north part of the country and i know that this is la going on in other parts of the country. We into that and bobby. I wanted to hear your experience for the last twenty. Four hours before me This weather is not good for me. And i'm gonna say that kind of a selfish way. 'cause i know there's a lot going on in this world and now mindful of that before i say what i say yesterday brought me when we cancelled the show and we did that for safety reasons of course and we did the right thing because by ten o'clock in the morning was snowing. Like crazy out here. I think five minutes. After we spoke coming down i mean it was fine like six o'clock in the morning and we could've got here with no problem but then we got stuck over here. We're not doing. That is quite shout. Chris rooney running the replace for us. Thank you party yesterday after we made that decision and it was done and as i just said not gonna do this from seven o'clock in the morning bar become to literally eight o'clock at night. I couldn't stop eating on donald e worried. That refrigerator door was like a new york city or a toll changer. i. I can eating incident every six minutes. I'm showing on something like a madman. Like i feel bad. And i got that netflix popping. And i'm on the phone. And i'm in my glory put. I literally think. I gained five pounds of hamburgers type of everything that tiny cooked. This just leftovers got home. All you wanna make dinner. Go ahead eight. That and i'm not eating today barbie Better eat today. So how was your twenty four hours experienced. It actually was very productive. I worked all day. I think eight once. I was talking to my best sean oliver and Around eight o'clock to citizens we have allo compensation because she always check. Let me she said. Did you eat today. And i asked you really sit the thing that i eat today. 'cause i wasn't hungry because i'll stick a lot of water and i say you know what i had some grits with cheese right this morning but that was it. That's all i let me. Because i don't wanna wake up a midnight star. I went and got a little balls. Level sean hav yesterday every day i did all know before we move on. We want shoutout to room and show you some love. You just said to me that. I will beloved real hollow Announced in the chat room that he has a corona virus upset. Well listen everyone you know the deal. You don't deal with well like relish the type of person if you have love and respect for real holiday type of a personality in person there is something wrong with you thank relatives that type of guy like if you don't like a real hala like seriously some character defects is going on in your life. Because he's just that type of guy. Noel from the beginning no roe member. When you came in barbie colonial started doing radio with us you sat there and it was just like dumbfounded like not going to. You know what's going on which is fine. It's tied is. That's how i was when i started doing. Radio and rail was general. Manager the radio station as you know anybody who who's done of course look like headlights. Yeah of course. And i'm saying that to say that this is the type of relationship that i have with this young man and we all know rela relatives come on this show times celebrate in life. We all cried together. Breakup relationships turn this onto the coffee maker. And the whole thing and now our beloved is Mandouh so we're gonna do is what we do if all all reservoir folks because we are in this thing collectively qualities family and that's what it is here Y'all gone over there. I'm going to reach out the role after the show. Your going over there and reach out the real and our members who who have gone through it your all reach out i did. She was he was messaging him. I want you definitely. You'll reach out the route. Because i don't know well colon if you can We we love and respect you Thank you for your transparency. My friend because lord knows. If i had i would let everybody know i had that Because that's the right thing to do to stop the spread so well we love you to death if you if you feel well enough calling and if you suffered from corona or not please reach out to row before the for those in the chat room who have experienced please your run over there i because they know oh i just speaking of corona virus. That was When god tessie last week. And i'm good last week. Yeah because i was exposed women last week so you just got the results back now. I got him back next. They told me this now. Forgot about it was over the weekend. You had a corolla says last week. Got the results. Last may have rona. That'd be added so you took the corona virus tower. Yeah got last week and you tell on my toes so okay so why. Why did you do that. I was exposed. And when you is expected to eat rebound out that somebody in the vicinity had so we had to get tested. So you're all went out the e somewhere. Somebody had it not in our party. Somebody that was in restaurant close to our visits. Yeah restaurant and everybody sitting closest and someone was exposed to it. yeah or they. They didn't have it but it was supposed to somebody else. I'm not sure if they had it or not. But i know got back to me that i asked you get tested so i we ain't got tested and where did you go to say. Looks plus yep same place. I go to all time driving thing. Yeah and how they administer the tests the loss while he knows wops goal deepen. They were deeper this habit last hop way and it was so funny. I had molasses on. And i'm sitting there. I'm gonna is closed. And she's got the swap. And i'm sitting because it takes me. It doesn't hurt me out. Some people say the bother me. So i'm sitting there blinking. My eyes really fast. Try not to sneeze. 'cause lord knows i don't want this cotton swab and go up my brain. Oh you have beautiful ashes. By the way you to make me sneeze. This about the goldman knows lady when i took the test to the coronavirus tests. That was the same thing to happen to me that i wanted to sneeze. But that's a natural reaction because you by china reject whatever's going so. How many times have you taken over to live. I think the average folks. I think two or three times depending on how much you go out now. Did you feel a certain way that you found out that someone was exposed that you have to go run and take a test because i know that i leave my house. It was a chance that i could probably why did you. Why did you feel that way. Phil what the leaving your house that there might be a chance because if you leave your house you take a calculated risk that if you know your house and once you leave you out. It's unsafe do you make at you. Do you really believe that. What how you. maybe we'll get. That happened with few you are you. Are you justifying this whole thing. I'm not i it is. I know you say that because you knew that when you left your house you know where you're going. Yeah what was going down. You can exactly. I'm taking accountability for my and there's nothing wrong with that part but it's not easy for us to say yeah. It was soon as we step out the door. Of course that's outside your rule that it was going down pepe day. Was it at the party out. All i want to say without. We did a comedy show. I did a comedy show. I did a comedy show last saturday. Shout out the barbara. I l she did a show. She hired me to host. It was about forty people in there. We was in a small room. Barbie cologne was there jacob. Holmes was there as well. And i would tell you this. I have my mask on when we started. I took it off throughout the whole show. And then i put it back on when i started taking pitches. That's what i did mass. I ate when i drink and at that it was on the barbie. Cologne looked like batman. Not right say she didn't. I didn't i didn't even see the also everybody else had that mass onto most but there was some folks that were sitting in there. That didn't have the mass for the whole time. They don't care care then. No doubt but bobby bobby practices. She doesn't the times that i've seen barbie out in public. She's always had her mast on. I don't play no game. I am not trying to curious. Gerona the lady that was in the house for a year to got delivered. If if the catcher this gopi listen barham colo back in the day man. When i was doing all this talk about that later everybody. We got the one and only real hollow on the phone. Know what things hyphen darling. I'm just warned everybody. You do not want this shit. This skews my friends at this is. It's the worst feeling fall whole week so far been delegated. It fevers headaches. Chills coffin sneezing runny. Nose congestion The only thing. I've been fortunate. Is that my breathing is good. But i i didn't i didn't lose my tastes. I did lose my smell. But but as far as the symptoms. It's not fun. It's not fun to deal with it. But as long well first of all again like press up to you rail you know i love you to death and secondly right you you call it in being transparent probably with this does is. It helps others Real how long. How long have you been feeling like this since last wednesday. Not this more. Like a right. After i got it i i was exposed a super bowl and i'm low tight with the people That because a friend of mine. It was just a house in our house camera but it was at her cousin's house and i feel like a cousin knew she had it or she has something because the the right the next day that monday she texts everybody. Oh my cousin got covert. So i'm like. I'm like well if you know that fast. If you had symptoms something was wrong or you already got tested and was waiting for your results. But the fact that you insane. Nothing to anybody was you know is messed up. Because this thing affects people a lotta people differently. You know if i could cute. I know people. I mean. we've known people pass away. Of course though sorta fact that i feel like they knew like her cousin new but they kept the event going on any way and just didn't say nothing you're mean or they knew something and they didn't say nothing so i'm low upset about that because a definitely put in everybody in the vulnerable vulnerable position but finitely was expose Super bowl sunday and then that wednesday. I got an that wednesday. I got my symptoms started. It started with the coughing and but thursday night ahead the chills and i went got tested friday and And i got my result saturday. But yeah so bobby cologne. He was out there. Tenet debt did dana dead. That tenet danta. He's absolutely right. There's no someone knew something that was going on with this party to had for her to tex everybody the day after the super bowl. Why we're going to say hey. My cousin is a positive corona. Even if you took a rapid test you know that that day even what you did you find out the next day so this person must have took the test the day that they next day right all the day to day or super bowl sunday. Maybe the tests on friday and monday. They got the resort. Right you're right but yeah you're right. Took politika saturday and got the results back on monday. And knowing that because there's a lot of folks out here that know that they've been exposed or filling sick and they still come outside. Yeah and this is unfortunately happened with well but it sounds like this role is on. Like what are you on the ninth. Temp day now. Eleven days with this. I'm more on What to say about day day. I don't want you to talk too much. But see he's on He's on the on the upswing recovery. Yeah okay and now this weird how the way we live our lives barbeque. Long rail was jumping around last year. being very active realm lost a lot of weight. Anyway he changed his lifestyle right. Remember we all follow a contributing factor to him getting through this Because how much weight did you lose prior what was what was your at your heaviest before you started letting us letting the whole world no us trying to get yourself in shape. I was in like two sixty something. And i dragged down to twenty seven this now. Imagine having being infected by becoming by the corona virus. And you like to sixty to seventy two three hundred. This is alarming where your body might not be able to fight this well well so now moving forward because you're going to recover from this and i believe you're gonna be covered because of the way you've been living prior to it now. What is your perspective. Now move forward. I know you still say but do you have a different outlook on life. Once you get through this It makes you question your friends but Not just you know. Like i'm just go back because i i you know. During the summer i was out. I was traveling nose during a lot. And i calmed down because i was like you know what i think. The bullet by not getting sick. And so i said let me let me not been home. I've been home. I just regard restore do is go to my pops house at and that was it you know and and actually i was. That's where i was supposed to go for. Super bowl was to pops house and because it's snow dead day. Remember sonya my boy. He didn't wanna drive up show being a he didn't want to drive up. I was like i for that. You know i'm not going to go up there because didn't know the snow's going to do so and we know state gets the stage like up there you know. It gets heavy with the snow so we was like you know what it sounds and i knew my blue. These people were doing something down here so by the weather's supposed to be it wasn't really a lot of pupils only like eight of us. You know it only takes one. Yes but man. So that's why. I went over there and i've been and the crazy part about it is. I've already been around these people. He same group of people before you know so. That's why you know. I overlooked certain things. But you know. Not definitely i know one thing i have been doing and and there's just suggestion everybody. I've been looking. I've been learning the stock market since everybody's everybody's talking cisco subsequently he's going to build on that thing a crazy though because it's a baked i've made money like in my sleep so it is. Is you know. That's one thing that i'm i'm just picking up on and you know i'm just trying to figure out different things to make money from inside the house you know and and socket i all i got to do is go to storm come home but i you know fortunate that my father my sisters another friend of mine. They all help me out. They delivered stuff. Dropped off stuff you know so you know it's a right. It's collective with a family. And thank god that you had your family with you Now why because you know he was over at the super bowl party then right. He's been around these people before everybody had guards now. I don't think that he could be yeah he had. He has a valid reason to be a low upset at these folks. No question about it. Do you think moving forward rail and barbecue on x. cool. Well 'cause i wanna preach i appreciate barbie cologne. I'll tell you i barbie. Yeah to even these last couple of months of it in meet going out during these. These comedy shows whatever. I haven't been around. Nobody but you zinni cynics. The city come back around me. She needs a tap around more people sneeze. I've been around you and the folks that live in my house and that's it i can track it down so i appreciate you taking the test because You came back. Negative and tiny still takes this test once a week. Well my question to you. Is this the especially i. Yeah 'cause you to ask somebody who's been affected by corona virus because they only know. Would you feel differently knowing that someone gave this to you. One of your loved ones. Maybe not intentionally but they were being reckless knowing that maybe they had it and still had this event moving forward. Does that put a put some kind of a damper on the relationship or is it just cool and you keep pushing because this virus is so infectious a i mean i feel like it does make me look at them with a look at them with side. I like. don't be for anybody. I know people you know tied to being in the house. Todd you know being cooped up in the house a nice but don't force a situation even if somebody even somebody just if you feel safe if you feel if you feel something's wrong don't put anybody in life in jeopardy just to have an event what i'm saying because you don't know how it could affect that person right. You don't know what to happen to a person would. If i would if i got to be i. I didn't make it through 'tis so it's not as unpredictable virus. You know and it's like it's i wouldn't. I wouldn't take a chance on jeopardizing anybody's help you know just to just because i want to happen event you know. It's just not the smart thing to do so so my next question would be okay. Yeah thanks for answering that question so my next follow a question would be. Would you have that conversation with that person that you think caused all of this or do you two part question or do you. Just keep moving with your life and just gone. Would you allow i'ma chairs person out. Bite my tongue. So they definitely at some point moorhead. Look you know. I'm definitely going to situation. You know i'm just waiting 'til i'm feeling better. You know i. I'm definitely a gonna Because it's crazy because to the cousin that got sick. You know she. She ended up having to go to the hospital because oxygen was down. The seventy though. So i'm like you all that the out the way. I'm learning how virus affected me. That didn't happen overnight. So so i'm definitely gonna address them and she and my friend she's been apologized like crazy l. discusion and i'm just like you know i don't don't this apology could have been too late. You know and i already lost two cousins to stay right. So you know i i definitely have to have the Because because Speak me after that. I don't care how after that. You know but i definitely got addressing because you could just kind of went left cologne cologne if us in this position to say because it's weird because sometimes i your loved ones people that you live with can be infected right and then they come home and infect you but they but it wasn't they intent This happened for me personally. That wouldn't be something that will will be issue in the relationship that i've been with my loved ones back. It was a collateral damage in. I'd say that the most sensitive way but was having an event or something was going on and they invited you. They know that someone might have been exposed. Just like you said about nia. What will you almost kind of went through it would that. Would you confront that person. Like hey i got sick at your event and you knew that somebody was exposed. Would you confront that person because you got sick or would you just leave it alone and just keep pushing our confronted because their actions put not only myself other people in jeopardy like if you knowingly had an event and knowingly new a you want to your guest hack hove it or possible to they may have had cove it you should have casualty event or low told them not to come role so because you wanted to be selfish. You're putting many others at risk. Now that is the reason why i will confront them. Say something to him because you know you need to know from this point going forward you can't roe harvey's cutting off people i will. I will cut for me mom. I'm gonna say my peace and cutting you off because just like you said barbie and just like well said if this event supersedes you're more worried about the event than the people's health. What does that say about you if someone said to me we have a comedy show on the fifth to seven and they said to me yo. Somebody's been exposed at the restaurant. But i'm gonna come on horn. Whatever is cancelled. Yeah because you gotta think of others exactly so well. You're going to have that conversation and then you're done with that relationship or what Definitely that's i'm i've been on the cutoff to like i don't really i don't deal with a lot of people know more 'cause you know i just bad vase bat energy and that definitely it definitely makes me look sideways at people. I can't do it. I can cause we're not 'cause now now come around you. I'm looking at crate. And and and i'm not a phone person. Right can't protect. You can't protect everything you know that because this this thing we're not talking about we're talking about something that's actually killing people. Yes we know. we're not talking about. Oh she just had cold right we talk him out of virus. Does killing people that you know. What if you know. I mean it's a. It's a lot of variables that could happen and just to fulfil your instant gratification and needs of to have low super bowl party in whatever is like you know even if you felt like she would because it was at the person that was sick was at their grave right i okay well she s move it. Yeah let's move. Movie aware routes your cologne that person. The cousin of relatives friends. I'm saying my piece to this person and you cut off because you have in your house and you know damn well you fill in a certain way. Do not being responsible enough for only eight people. Jesus quiet at this woman was in charge of five hundred people everybody. It'd be sick right if i was in real situation. Have that conversation with this young lady. And i'm out the door now. The soot the the friend is apologizing to everybody. Yeah and the friend. This is a weird situation because the friend had to know something was going at. You knew they should've cancelled this event. Right six eight people for their cousins their cousins and super close. So you know it's like an recipe but but it's like sydney in her cousin. How close they okay. You understand like so. It's so you see note. I can show you the text messages. Like her saying like you know that texas's the next day saying oh she she she. Her oxygen was down seventy through the way. These symptoms kicked him for me. It took three days. She all that didn't happen on monday. Here that means kiama having that maybe she was exposed Three or four eight four days yet. They knew she knew this is. This is a bunch of bs. She know it she needs to get cut off. I'm sorry. I know that they are close. But the anybody judy only a crazy to i was the only one got sick so far because some people they may have been exposed they have just exposed to other people So that's the thing too but Near nobody else everybody else got tested. Nobody else got sick will row. Now you can stay house with few more days. Jump on that stock market Talk to folks online. Dual your corona virus research and. What are you doing drinking like drinking like african. Boxing orlando with the with the person. Take lavelle would you taking you know what's crazy i'm gonna tell you and this and it's the virus is so unpredictable. Is that only thing that you really have to you. I you wanna fight the fever as best you. Can you fight in the fever. So dr immune system can build up. You know and that you're not week but it's it's so many people get so many different happens in different variations. You don't like everybody's like oh. Did you lose your appetite. I at first. I didn't lose no appetite at all. You know and. I didn't lose my taste so i've been doing like the same thing you would do to fight. You know a fever cold or flu. Whatever and that's all you really could do it and then just trying to make sure that you know you'll oxygen stays on point right now. A lot of folks have been saying especially in the room. That's had the corona virus. It's good to walk around. Land you walking around and not laying in the bed. Yeah i get up. I get up a walk around because i plus i gotta make my own. You know. i'm here by myself. So i gotta make my own soup stuff to eat. You know so. I get a move around trying Open window get a low air is like that's all you do. Well let's take that and we're gonna let let's have a real. Everybody put some clapping emojis in there for our beloved. I'm going to start a new industry real hair. You go what you start. Showing start the the quarantine dating service medals who have been infected with cove it and we got past it and they all start dating each other after the fact and share their stories. Would you like to be my first member of the quarantine. Do broad support. I will walk the walk around your apartment. Keep the lights on and and everybody reach out the realm man. We love him to death again. Well thank you so much for your transparency and you know just just thank you such a good dude a great dude and you will get you like. I would always say you will get through this. Yes right and we're all in this journey with you together just like everybody else is la ron when there. I haven't seen it yet net. Can we get some some soothing kind words to if you took llanesa ronald well for more than three minutes you will. I will guarantee you will start crying in joy and she knows she's so relaxed harming kami is you'll role we love you bro. I love yard. Fill good friday Columbus real holler. God bless them and is what we talk about here. The extended family. They you know we share what we go through and a truly appreciate ralph for sharing and we all can learn. Learn from it and Bobby cologne the two cousins. I'm cutting them off. It's just it was reckless and it was disrespectful. Yeah for what these young ladies. And even though i know we do have a responsibility. Was somebody knowingly doing now and even in my house a few people. And i didn't know anyone exposed because they didn't tell me how can i share it so i'm not at fault but if i had an event no one one of my cousins who i have a cousin. I'm real close to we like sisters those times. By that event. I am one hundred percent if anybody gets sick. Shaw have morning. Show cine barbie. Good morning this is what j. johnson in florida. How you guys doing this on this so listen. I'm praying for a young man on a constant basis. The one thing that we have and realized. And i i've seen it a lot is this. It's not over. It has to be over and people are getting real with the fact that they think is no matter how small. How big event is it's someone has been exposed and they don't know it as systematic then. Because you don't know who has this thing you don't know who has it so this is what i've been doing if i invite somebody to my house but first thing i'm gonna ask them if they've been tested. Have you been tested. And they say yes. And i said well. That's what i'm going to need for you to come here because i'm a cancer survivor and i don't need to disick. Grandson has asthma. He doesn't need to be sick. So that's what i'm going to need if you wanna come here but otherwise you can stay home and and i even though i'm tired of this. I'm tired of being subjected to staying to myself being careful when i go out you know. I sent my grandson back to school which was against our better judgment. But i can't keep him in here for ever in need socialization. He doesn't need to be around his grandmother and his mother. All these women you know he. He needed this. So i mean it. It was a hard decision. But that's far. It's been going really good. That's fine great. He's in a charter school. And they have you know they. They're doing really well. But i say that to say that you know we can't get comfortable we can't. We can't no matter what you feel how you feel. You can't get comfortable because this society this society that we're in now working against us. They're not working for us. I don't know if you guys are looking at the statistics or whatever but you don't see white folks doing what we're doing. They're they're they're banking on the fact that all black folks don't take that vaccine because that means more for them banking on it banking on the fact that they'll have more vaccines come through where black folks won't take it and it'll mean more for them everybody or eight johnson's on full goblet. It's going down seven at the free admission. vip tables. Call your boy sean. Harvey at the party. Dj is going down where you match spread. This is a superspreader imitates. Make sure everybody wears take everybody's temperature think now in the culture that we live in orgies right. I think that now in this time is going down more sub at this time. It's a valid question. Yes you come into my house. It's going to be valid question for all time now has been exposed tests. Have you been any little tipping for the forehead. The way you get that thing you back and that's what relatives have at the super bowl. Berth doctor even doctors. Now they don't let you in office. They ask you all kinds of questions before. They even make appointments. Have you've been exposed have you. Have you know they ask you all of that. Even let you in their office. You're running around buying all these stocks and stock which are need by is when they have this whole rapid testing thing because that's was going to be the norm in the next six months to a year. You're going to be able to go to a cvs and you're going to be able to buy your rapid testing kid that you and then i'm gonna go anyone who knows anything you need to whether you feel bad. You don't feel bad whether you've been tested or not been tested. The whole thing is keep your immune system up. Take your vitamin c. Take your vitamin d. Three take you think and magnesium take your b twelve. Take this stuff out the berry. Take stuff to keep their immune system strong so if you do come in contact with something it will be very difficult for it. To attack you immune know what san orlando and. I'm sure that folks take heed to what you're saying. And i'm going to add onto that because there's no more say 'cause you said it all or jay johnson. It's going down more seven hundred twenty twenty one at the i. r. meals the crazy. Thank god bless you. Bless you all quick break Cipro gordon sean. This wanna peterman. Hi four wanna. Good morning god. Bless ya. Athletic calling in Then away In newark with my family was like this year don came in. We had back the back but you have a good topic this morning and last year wouldn't cove it first. Came out my mother. She was working at walmart warehouse and she caught it. Not god i remember talking about it to you. Guys in april k the whole family quoted ashida. And no she had it. She lost a taste. That spell and father is with the family because the dominican. You know a lot of kids. We don't need no outside party so we gave a father that week birthday party here at the house he sixty nine. He's a diabetic and her mother knows. She has five full malaysia. So yes thank you. So the fatah. So he was so weak it everything that they had the rushing to the hospital. We almost lost him. And then i quote it. Because i have as so i had the chills fever. I lost my taste so smell and my husband. You know working with the minute you know my son. Anthony came and got me. I was isolated at home for fourteen days monitoring. Tv's down okay. Papi tapie down. I'm so like i'm saying is this is no joke I got ask recently because obviously not was around my family One of the members exposed to with porn their job and they was positive. So what happened. Was that before. I went down and got tested at saint luke's anderson campus so my tests came back negative. But i don't wish this one no one no joke. It is serious I'm praying for the young guy that he gets better. I feel the same way like barbie if you have an event but first of all you tense. Everybody that you know they don't have Shot have like a small gathering. Try not to have nothing at all. Because i know his heart. I'm tired of being isolated and everybody is ready. Get back out there. But it's getting worse on home stuff got them said I will And yes again. This is what we talked about before. Wouldn't roll spoke a party cologne. The fact that sometimes family members will have the corona virus. Bring home to everyone in her in this in this situation at two one is talking about and i get it now. That is what this virus is so you can't be mad at that family member foot because come home. That wasn't day in ten loud. The whole thing with this is with well. We already talked about that. I think that was almost borderline intentional because the woman keeps apologizing and the girl sick and she knew she wanted. Audrey a johnson brings up a great point. You know about protecting yourself and the virus and the vaccine where folks are hoping that black folks. Don't take this medication. Hold on hold on. We'll get to that. I want to feel good friday. So now you an orgy account on the same page as far as being cautious corona virus and i like i love oggi's idea like hey a the question like hey. Have you been tested. All the problem with this is nobody. And we're gonna get it so good friday you know how feel about this or this new variants of this corona virus right. There's a lot going on with this. There's a scene out there. That people are taking blackhawks. Don't wanna take it said it is more for the white folks. Take it but i think we should take it anyway now. That's just my opinion. I know everybody has. These people are scared of it. But this this this this certain time of your life. Because now barbie colonie said the life expectancy has dropped the first time and seventy years due to corona virus one year for why folks two years latinos and three years. So what are you doing you okay. So so the life of a bill to thank you. The life expectancy now barbie cologne. This has dropped like i said one year. For why folks surprise two years for latino votes in three years for us this. This news came out yesterday. This crazy right now. There's different various of corona virus. New new viruses coming out. We win a mass. There's a vaccine. You don't have to take i get it but there's gonna be a point for all of us. It's going to be a question that has to be in your heart and in your soul bobby. Cologne and everyone else is listening. What are you more. Afraid of the corona virus or the vaccine. You gotta action self that question but it can't be both. We don't have the luxury to have both choices or put them on the shelf. Yes we're to to to wanna relle an orgy. Johnson had the sang common denominator. They're not coming outside. No more and you can do that. But audrey has her beloved grandson going to school yeah they are going to have a version of this vaccine foot children next year thereof be this year. They're saying this you can go. I'm not taking it fine. i'm not. I'm not advocate for you. Know how i feel about this. I'm gonna take doctor's appointment today at one pm. I if i can take today feel bad i the whole weekend feel bad but the question is now. Don't you again. We could do it in the news we did. We didn't show me now. We don't do it in the news. The life expectancy has dropped everybody one year for why folks two years for latino folks and three years old on phil go friday. You can do whatever you want to do. You can wait for heard immunity. You don't know when that's gonna come because you don't know. How long are you going gonna live this. Is max please my friends. Be careful out here in streets but no that is you at some point. Well you're gonna raw. Are you gonna take vaccine now that you recovered from the corona i. I wanted a row. Quebec and i don't know what you're gonna do now. A lot of people are phil. Fear food a lot of people know these facts. They are different variants of corona viruses. Coming out facts but at the same time. Oh hell no. I'm not taking this vaccine. Fine and there's multiple reasons why audrey johnson said. I keep mentioning a nail. Tom but she's a cancer survivor twice. God bless for that and all the things that she's been through so she's very hesitant. Oh she doesn't take that. I understand that but if you're running around here half healthy have healthy if you got one one even if you got to underlying conditions. I would think that this would be something that you might want to consider. You don't have to do it. Keep you updated special. Shout out to aid you in into spaghetti. Man he posted in the group. He took a second i in he paid a video of it. This guy was was held. Bit on not taking this. Yeah he put it in their tricky. Lewis another one. Tricky as cine were best friends. I don't even think they talk anymore that that so my whole again. We're gonna we're gonna go back to the break new england. shout out. Doing the question is are you more afraid of the coronavirus itself but a vaccine but can't be both live in you see how it was continuously. Snow in bobby cologne. It's never gonna stop that. Was i just how was going. Be if we don't do anything with corona virus we just the ongoing quality of life change and the life expectancy is gonna drop even more right like get healthy beheld the do what. uk. Audrey jackson's how keeps sending you take your vitamins and all the things that you need to do. But go out there. And do like sean harvey and get your ass out there saying this for years. Get your ass out there and start walking said house of high said. Get your ass out there start. Walking like harvey said in many times harvey walks scoring down more seven south delaware temperature checks on deck and and wral holiday. Safe thing at the we just talk about. Well got out there. He whiff from two hundred and sixty pounds heavy barbie and loss fortieth those pounds. I know i know about that too. Prior to heaven corona virus. Get your gas out there and walk instead of that refrigerator like harvey bay yesterday and try to earn back those three years. That black folks have lost. We've everybody this is facts. You're went out there and you go look at it and google it while i'm talking about. Is the big news story yesterday. Your could sit there on. Feel good friday part colonial. We take out break. Shot out the room and jumping that chatterbox until the cows. Come home information is not even real. Here's the facts. Black folks have lost three years of life expectancy. And you're sitting there and you're running around stare and we all around here. We'll all fake on earth. But you don't have no way knowing that your life expectancy had been dropped for three years. Yeah day are faithful that their immune system. It's gonna work you more than that. You're gonna need more than that. You're gonna need some more than that faith. I would live dropped three years and one in the one year cal on a calendar year bob and it hasn't dropped for seventy years. That's not from the chatterbox and yoga with that cesspool. Chatterbox with three years. Have been taken off your life Because you scared. My mother says she ain't going to church. No more been in church since she was. Is mama going to church since eighteen sixty seven. Mama got baptized. eighty four. mama got married in church in nineteen hundred and three and she's been every sunday bobby call can't bless. Oh let's go out with my mother. She said to me recently going back there. I'm not upset with her upset with her. Going down seven. But guess what my mother did. Barbie call eight years ago. She took a second shot of the tape. Vaccine took a second shot. i no. You're listening over there. I wanna say this to you. You know how about your love you to death and i i hope and pray that you have a glorious day today tomorrow. Beloved mother who've respect for all my life why we cologne even my sanity in my life a never disrespect my mother. I never yelled at my mother. I never i never dacca take that to my grave right. It's because first of all. I'm not my right and i was scared. So she's that's all. I'm mother was little and you never la raise. Your voice at your mother never was disrespectful to your mother and this is where how does that make you feel wonderful. Exactly i'll feel good. Gideon side cameras. Woman's eighty eight izzo should be eighty nine thousand years old. She took both shots. Says the to say who encourage mother to take the shot i did and she did and aunt and all the rest of the seniors hang out with engine dropped connection drops and crystals it all all all all the rest of these How long she's got his back. No she's okay. she's backing this snow message signal. She took that shot. And i wasn't afraid and i one time for my mother. My aunt took the shot. My mother's sister. And half a women in the church or union baptist. Church bronx new york. Who haven't been to church and over year because it's hotbed of the corona to my mother. Want to say. I love you to death and god. Bless you and i'll talk the after this show but this is a woman kitty. Eight years old eighty nine coming up. God bless bless her yes harvey. She took both shots. Shout out to my mother. Shout out to adrian spaghetti man trick lewis the son oliver lozano. Alright masan the man is the asa so goblet shaw but a know vis and with the facts on good friday life expectancy of the black person has dropped three years while you're sitting here running around on that chatterbox is going to go down to five years. If you keep acting thing in this would. I believe in You'll get mad at meal you want. I'm here to give you some information. And i say it all the time. The world has a way of cleansing itself. You're never seen overpopulation. Sometime of virus is with the world puts on this planet. The get rid of some of us. Well i don't know if i will say that. S say that in a respectable way but not this planet cleanses itself. So you do what you need to do to live longer. No this is a virus with the mainly vaccine measles mumps or making a rapid return. Bobby when you as a kid took the shot it. I'm sure my mother got everything. The measles mumps know exactly chickenpox. Yes no shot because he put the poisoning my body. I know that right. Nothing yeah yeah. Big shots are non vega. Kristen mancini new year's celebration. That's right two thousand nineteen big things the new label an imprint gray show feel-good front yeah Friday february nineteen twenty twenty one forty four minutes after i walked back We're gonna shout out the room up. Once again apprentice cox no pause blackheart again. Like timing is everything with the jokes and he text me some very funny barbie already knew that. So barbara do some quick weather and saudi arabia. Well right now is only sixty two degrees there partly cloudy but yeah they're weather has been crazy. It did snow this little bit little bit. And then we print is it was fifty two degrees there a couple days ago yesterday and Like you said do. Y'all got your ticket to heaven ready. Hey thank you. Thanks was degree. It's still cold here. What what's going on here right here. In america where we live and bethlehem because broadcasting from here and it's twenty five degrees. Thirty four will be the high today. It is still snowing outside with a day. Lighten up a little bit. I thought it was go. Get heavy for a little longer but lightened up. This tad is post. Should stop brian levin. Am this morning but who knows We woke humanly between one to two more inches of snow today. Guys the roads are very slippery so please please be careful if you are out about if you do not have to go out. Do not go out. 'cause a lotta side streets in the mainstream have not really been salted also. Please be careful in strasbourg. Twenty five degrees thirty two fourth of high light snow as well as having a m. It's going to be cloudy and they also should get between one to two more inches of snow today. Re up there too in a new york new jersey. Twenty eight degrees thirty four for the high snow guys may get a little thin. She is And that's going to be until about seven pm today. You guys aren't a winter weather advisory so please be careful and As well as new york city grease their thirty four for the high light snow and you guys are under a winter weather advisory until seven pm. Thirty six atlanta forty-six for the high cloudy in the sun is gonna come out at eleven. Am this morning. And the rest of the other day should be pleasant. Seventy seven in miami eighty-one for the higher mostly cloudy in chicago is twelve degrees. Twenty one would be the high today in clear. Forty eight in los angeles clear in seventy two for the high end louisville. It's sixteen degrees at thirty four. The higher partly cloudy and rochester. New york twenty three degrees the highest going to be thirty two. It's snowing He's going to pretty much snow all day there and they should get about seven inches of snow today. That's the way the half of your. What's it look like where you are where we cologne coming to. You live from the one show featuring sydney j i will you get you started right. Excellent job why be cloned way start. We just to let people know what's going down more seven down. Yes i knew temperature checks. Thank you practice. Pause blackhawks shot but See you've been though it was funny. I sorta text message Snow flurries saudi saudi arabia. Fifty two degrees Armageddon's coming soon. Barbican harvey's ready. Are you right with lloyd. I am so right with the lord. I've been on both sides. I've been with for and i've been with the almighty harvey's good harvey have accepted his fate. And i am not scared. You run around here. Scared descendants level is low not harvey harvey ready. You better get ready snowing in. Saudi arabia. chatterbox dreaming. Fake news are you. How's your sept- this level. Bobby colona you ready. you sure. I'm brad no brand shoes. You ready if i go tomorrow today. I believe i'm going to have right. Yep harvey's reading your faith in the world you scare the underneath your bed. Bobby went armageddon. Come in that fiery rock climbing. Hit this earth barbican. Cologne like i said before. I'm gonna run into the streets. I'm gonna kiss my loved one in the mouth. I'm gonna run out in the street here. Bethlehem why that route coming down and destroy this berg. I'm gonna get naked. And i'm gonna make love to myself and i'm gonna go out of here with us why stratified fodder getting ready to burn up. You cutting you up your texas a mighty. Harvey gonna make lonzo while i yell. Better get right Life expectancy for black folks go home. Life expectancy for black folks. That didn't drop the league years also thousand days that a you better get right with god yes and you better stop getting into force information from the chatterbox. And that's what your boy has to say. I love you guys death. you got. Listen to me sean. Songs always talking crap for wiscon- true bobby colonial cindy j. has sat here for a year. No facts harvey's fax ever show the love. You guys you guys. Good morning cheers cheers. Everyone filter friday. Your boy shot hobby. Loves you okay. Listen to whatever you want on a chatterboxes take for you know. Grain of soda with it is to stop believing all that mess. Here's the facts. Life expectancy for black folks down three years to say no good game stock. Whatever this stuff you guys. You're talking about this facts. Going out there and walk and get right which god not being scared quiz. Harvey going to love to himself win. Come down because i think that's us going to draw barbie. I'll go to. I'll go to hell for that show loan. I don't even like wearing clothes. I understand that part i. I hate winter clothes. I love reading so you think when that time comes. Hey i was born with no clothes. On right tech. Came right out of the The vagina no close today ran with something. I'm going to go out with no clothes on. And that one of my last words that i would probably say if i have my loved ones around in this time and it's my time to go. Why be lonely. My words might be witty. You say this is my last honey. What take my take. You look back what you show them off. Take my hand. Take my take you to myself sean. you are. We are going to shut up that. We're gonna show these folks in love took chat check with asset. Bobby let's go. Hey wait turn hey heart set with heart set turned hey with heart with a heart. Where the jaffa but hey hey oh hey five-set check check. Check that let's go. Hey wait a heart set win. Wait wait hey wait a heart set. Hey hey slow. Yeah we got in was sub. Young night to w m dixon. Hey cousin good morning to you. See land rooney. Hey christo morning. Terrible leads in the booth. Lee scott was suddenly. How are you calling. Give us an update lee. Police say their water has gone. He asked early in calling. Please let us call squad jessica. Wilcox is here. Hey jessica good morning to you. How are you this martin. Allen swab mcallister's in the building. Hello alan good morning to you. Peachy cream lebron is here. Hager ogm those hearts coming. Everybody may veneta. George is in the building what's cobbler to wanted to see more as here higer all town. Tanya net is end up building martin who also we have here. Kareem lewis here. Hey kareem today nathan. Jones is in the building. Good morning nathan you. Audrey brown is here all brown. Are you audrey warren. I believe so because your name does not look familiar to me if you are new. Welcome to the party. We appreciate you tuning in Please let us know. How did you hear about the show and Like and share the show having morning show business bait and You know there's throw to show when you washer. Which people rare. Mr station house and the building rail. I will be praying for you. We hope you feel better soon. Everybody look out for rails. Charlton narrow my road johnson harrow. Good morning girl outside. No role is not playing. No games ninety ruined by. Dear jackson is in the bill. Hey dera good morning. Dear jackson has been outside every day. The corona viruses donnie. Back in that. I really need to overlap like you know then outside every day too much. I try to stay in house. I wish you stained. Cologne is here. Hey girl good morning. In the sean hayes. Jones in the bill. The halen sean and low pay two point. Oh was here. Hey in. Michael miss one emoji. Johnson is in the building. Good morning. markus chat out to tim. Harriet is hello. Hello the godfather. Tracy raise in the bill. A hey tracy. Good morning to you michaela. Hey girl good morning. How are you today emotional. She's with us yeah. Electro homes is here. Good morning lecture homes. How are you this morning. Thank you for tuning in. We appreciate you watching. Yes she's let us know. How did you hear about. I think he's actually from new york brooklyn. I think it was bronze wanted to. I believe that's what i read. What was coming so fast. But yes us know How did you hear about us in she. She's an air came a little late so she's way towards modern Donna oldham's is in the building. Down down how we use like that name. Donald i had a real good experience with donal was awesome. Yeah was upstate new york. Two thousand five may. may you live long donna. Whoever you are night when we we can get it in couple of donald nicole harris nicole border to you. One of my many one night stands donna. Lot of one. That's probably how many one night stand. You never never worry cologne. You're grown as women. I am you've never had a one night stand. I have never had a one nice thing. Wow well thanks we honesty. Why use a long-term spell. First of all i was in a long term marriage and then after i got i respect by cookie box a little too much to him and myself orbis nothing wrong with. I'm not judging anyone doing. I never said it was raw. It's not for me in your lifetime remembered the life is spent the blackfoot right. You might wanna try now. I'm good thank you. Thank you bobby you you really have put them. World chapman potty. Not even those when he was in college high school. When i was in college and high school i was with my husband. We got together always. I think maybe you might wanna might wanna venture into a lease before. You sell lynn on something having a nice day. Now thank you. Shaw morning show sydney barbie sean morning. Barbie is lynette. She sound difference. I didn't pick up on your voice. Hager let me get hold on a pony right now. Okay there you go thank you darling. Welcome i have been listening but the work that i'm doing right now is a little bit more. You're not done in the past few weeks in terms of timing so i may not make a lot of comments but to row. I did make a comment earlier. And then i did another one. But i'm just letting you know. I am listening all right because you like lynette and like when the nets and i'm telling you this is facts when you and printed in a few of us are not around chin star sweat and it gets weird for me. That's so sweet. So win i freak out wins. There's certain folks chat. We do get a little weird weird you you you in princes a few others like if you're not around i i don't even want to do this thing i swear so. That's how i feel when i've been accident or like where the hell is. He did too all right now. I know i feel. I'm i'm good now. I'm in a better place. Okay bless your heart. I'm gonna go back to work at the diverse mattis is here. Hey burn good morning. The sondhi is part of the bill. What's something that's on. How are you feeling today. Feel good friday. God bless you and thank you for more than the movement appreciation. Boy this is concerning to me over forty now less you look you look great barbie. God bless you. Listen life expectancies. Drop three years with black folks. Everybody need to put the numbers up in that. Chapman barbeque along taste. I want you to as some point before you really settle in on one one guy feel free on. Keep those hearts coming. Feel free barbeque alone. One night you had some kind of fair as some your dressed up and everybody's just been some guys start kicking to you and you have that connection. Why because i want you to have at least one time in your life a one nice day. It's nothing wrong with anything wrong with it. Put a number one in a chat room if ever had a one night. Stand my cup of tea and put a number two if you never had one nice then put a number one if you had a one night stand. Put a number two. If he didn't feel good friday. I've i've lost count on. How many one night stands i've had in my lifetime but bobby i do worry. I swear. I want you to jump out the box pause one time and i need to experience. I'm telling you is going to is is is a filling of euphoria. It's the same time you like. What the hell am i doing but at the same time. It's such a turn on in the right. Scenario barbagallo hope and pray one day before armageddon before the world or at least different variants corona virus. That you bobby. Cologne will experience the almighty one. A lot of twos in here a lot tools to wants to. But i was expecting winds in twos. But there's a lot of tuesday but here who's to don't smith the to fab-fabulous to jacqueline davis is headed. Jackie good martin. Thank you watching la peachy cream is a to a name like peachy cream you'll never had a one. Okay hold on. My wife is shot. them won't let me say something l. Get this. I just share. What you guys are. Boy sean harvey. How're you doing now. I love you guys deaf notice. I'm never in a chat room. I don't even know what's going on if you never experienced the one nice stand i want you to the life expectancy of black folks facts have just dropped yesterday. It dropped in the news. Three years due corona virus thousand days when everybody to stay healthy and live long. And i want you to experience things. You boys sean. Hobby lobby clone. I was very slutty in my. I was such a whore. Get very horse show so nasty horrid why is is blessed me would i still. My blood is cleaned baumgarten. I want you guys to go out there and experience a one night stand savvy peachy and all the others. I want to go out there. And once in your life this okay. Under the right scenario is fine. Barbie says she doesn't give cookie box overnight. One i but that's not the that's not. That's not an objective of the one night. Stand you gotta look at it. You gotta look at it. Beyon- dripping bobby cologne. Before she shall shot. You have to look at it beyond thinking that this is something sexual that is not. It's like taboo is still look at it that way. It's an experiment. Sometimes the universe aligns to folks and under the right conditions say the gospel houston or whatever and you can have that one night. Stand and keep your pushing. Have you wanna show sydney barbie morning angel. Engine hold on hold on hold. Okay bobby finished finishing got holy it. There's a bunch of folks going to want. pd minutes here. Good morning tanu washington. Just pop in the building and valerie time as hey valerie. Good morning to you to lead. He just popped in good morning. Ruth kamanga ruth elizabeth camargo just popped in good morning to you. Don smith is here narrowly rights in the bill. Dan kenny be winning us here. Audrey johnson audrey queen diana's here. Y'all say good morning to queen. Because she's in the building lenny. Jones hailing it. She also knew. Welcome to the party. Girl please let us know. How'd you hear about show and share barbecue. Have you ever fantasize about a one night stand. I can't recall. I don't think i have bobby fantasy. You know this. How data seat is fairly new. I've only been under say so. I'm not married. But now i must say you could be in the relationship. It doesn't that as you never fantasize about even well. What famous or something like that you but regular regular folk not reassure you would have a one night stand for somebody famous. If there. let's here. I yeah probably. I'll probably coffee that door. He blamed like less. Get it aid you angel you do with what's going on god. Blessed bless you to. I call it tell the true so yes i have had a one istan and it was awesome. Awesome okay a girl because bobby cologne and others look at it. Like a something bad. She just said she said you should go. Gone will give up my cookie like that in one night. That's what she said i did. I sure did. Wow was your experience. So great major. Our even know his name. Oh wow okay. that's even better all right. Go even know his name. And i had to be about nineteen years old. It was in chicago. It was at the race track under the bleachers. He was fine as hail. I hit acquitted. And i went back to betting horses with my auntie and now remember his name. I didn't know when i got there. And i didn't know him when i then we didn't exchange numbers and i never seen him no more my life. Let's clap okay. This is women who gets it. All right go ahead girlfriend home. I'm clapping one more time. You know what are you a grown woman. That what a story barbie cologne. At one time this is a story that she can share even if she doesn't want to in thanks for being transparent. This is something that was a good. That's what i'm saying. These things only in the right circumstances could be a great experience. Even older guy's name. She did any head on a candy cane. Go ahead grandma. The i want you to hear this. Because i'll share my story but this this everybody angel. John's on on. How did that happen. How many more named jambo about maybe twelve thirteen go. Good d mother. Fm free just popped in the building The princess cat is in good morning. Mr rabson has had a whole bunch of wines. Dj cadillac here is here. Hey around has had a one night stand you know here. Oh hell chris would and so view has one next thing veronica is here. She's brand new. Don't sound like she had a one night. Stand beneath english has had a one night. Stand hold on hold on angel. How did that all play out. Was it i contact. How did you get down to the bleaches. Please share he. Was i contact. There was just no conversation. None fever day. Rita look i gave him to look. He just like nodded his head. Like come on go this way. I was like all right. I gave him hit up and then we just kind of walked he motion this way. I wash your net way riches. Kind of you know he at me. I looked at him and it just went down my god. Why am i have to go to the bathroom make myself. I'll be right back a hybrid. Who who else. Who had a one night. stand out. now. I've never had one yet. Shaheed johnson is here going. He's had a one night. Fabio days train. The pinker with china not think his hat. Nasa rather has had a one night. Stand arago. this. Jack davis hey cousin she said yes of my now now nobody arizona for nearby so angel woman interrupted so now. You're don't say nothing down in the bleachers and then the smashing commits is. That is that that would happen. And how was the passion level on this one night. stand smash how was that passion going for somebody that just gave you i contact and your smash. How was that. it was intense. It was real tense. God he was just you know he was real. He was just like real strong. And you know he just gotta love making. This was a you know coming here. He get this gustaf. And just it was due narrow it was almost sorta barbaric grant which you say they will not want sorta like were bar barrick like a loving way just wanted it. Will you know grab. He had his hand in my long hair around did in august. i'm over. he likes it my little coffee. Hold on relesae. That sounds great. Stop sean is having a moment. Yeah who she's lobby. You don't want to tell a story like this now. Not answering. Hold on hold on god. Goals tricky lewis is here. Hey tricky good morning number. Do is in the building. What's on sale hall just popping good. How're you angel jazz. Say it's all the foul yard one nine stages with one the whole home. I ain't you. God bless you bless less and so then after. The acquis override. You're just kind of like. How did you go your separate ways. How did that work out. he is. He tipped his hat. He was like you know like you. And i'll just kinda you know. Did the same thing. I guess you know nodded my head. And he went one way down to bleaches and he you know made sure i got back to where i was. You know he was a gentleman who me shark back to. Where i was i was and she was like. Where'd you go. I was like two ladies world which i did. I went to the ladies room and took what they called her. Bath real quick and Got myself together and went on back to what i was on. Had a good night at the race track with her and can my ass on home and told my sister were happy. Did say nonetheless about it to you. Know he'll now walk alone. You have to ilya life experience a whole bath and that's always been your problem. I guess you live a little more home. Hauling shaw wants your whole angel or we're gonna give you the last word well you know. Women's interrupt is from our sister station. A connie net or coming world network. Us can go now. Thank you for sharing. Harvey fills much better. I'm so glad. I just wanted to make sure you felt better. And i'll let you know that there are some women out there who do have one night. And as i'm going to do this and i'm gonna take eight to you because you shared this story. I'm going to go home tonight. I'm going to smash my fiance. And i'm going to think about you in this whole story. That us hell you do that. Thank you you treat her like a one nine stance amid and let her know what's all right after after we smash. I can tell it to go take a bath. Yes we'll go fast and hold path before she has her shower. Just tell it to enjoy angel. Ain't you tell us a quick about women interrupt real quick before we go to the next call. Women into roasted is a conversation between myself and three other of the world's greatest female comedians and we constantly get interrupted by life. It could be anything from our spouses to our children to work to whatever. But we talk about real life topics real life situations in a funny way. But it's real life and we're constantly interrupted and you can find us on one of our comedy world network sister stations which is comedy cloud dot l. o. l. and you'll be hearing from all real soon our thank you so much we appreciate you. You're welcome and we appreciate you every single morning later guy batting s trial say saint. Good morning i'm sean and mostly young lady's name bobby. Hold on a second hold on. Who was on. The who else have adrian kayla just popped on atrium to one nice day. Jp peers is here. Good morning tiffany thompson. It's in the building what's up. Tiffany as indiana's diane always at a diane. Diane hall has never had a nice thing. Mike bakers in the building. Baker has never had a one night. Stand believe they went. Yeah we appreciate you guys so much. Thanks to tuning end please. Liken share our business. Patients will feature retail business patriot. Get notified every monday. Through friday ten. Am ten twenty when we go live on so but download our beloved apps that's fan radio and also a comedy worldnet radio. Thank you okay. We have someone on the phone. Okay how you doin. Who is this on a phone. Ipod insists process lonita. Shum how ya doing just want to Give real And embody a way that they can fight it and Not catch it. You know Slow that steamy. Your body. Get up big the bigness. Hot and your house put some water. Line limited Rummaging the pot and golic and gentler and sit in the middle of the floor. Put two or three blankets over your head and body and also what Audrey said no burying vitamin c. Vitamin d three I also take All of extract and Vitamin ease and Flat a flaxseed and Blaustein oil him as he moments. See more very good. It has ninety nine vitamins And it's another thing on. And i'm just going to say don't hold on. How many hours a day that you had to say. We'll take this every day. Day as i'll take once in the morning time and say because i had a stroke in april i had a buck log on my head and a along on a Collado ordinary lands You know i haven't. I never used to take vitamins. And my mom always told me take your vitamins take your vitamin another date for starting to in malignant to you know my mother and my oldest son he provides me with all of these volume great. See and that's and that's an that's a great thing. Come in come in and so on where you going out now. The ming this thing is going to be around for seven more years so double up on your mask when you going out in your year round You know more than ten people you know you gotta double up even if you go into. Somebody's house and you you know kardashian. Whatever just we amass. That said you know you can't trust people because no one is going to be honest about if they have it scared the tell people they have it. And i'm glad the young lady that Your host she you know she didn't catch it but we have to think for ourselves and be careful and mike birthday a sean and i wanna come to your party. I'm going to try to get tim house. The take up did so you saw share the connection that have with this young lady all right go ahead share all the are running around. They're connected through. God bless each. And everyone of i as a good friend of mine radio show with tim house on the block. Radio now probably cologne. I've no a marquee three. I know i know more back in the day. This is the young lady that said mark hats music to play. Are we start to her. Yeah okay marquis or his songs that we play all the time. This was responsible for lincoln me mark to get the music out this class for that right. I been doing radio So long you had to host the end when i was watching you and it was like in a little room right. Yes and now you have x. You have advanced i. i'm. I'm so happy for you and your team and how you doing. And everything is organized for you. And you know. I'm praying that shaw. All stay healthy and you know you know blessings to everybody you know and i wanna come to your party so the guy they hit up ten house make sure he brings me up there because i need to see you gained a little bit away and i gained a lot of weight. The clothes he has on state. Because sean amendment say thank you and thanks for the kind words and one day. We will love you and tim to come on out here avenue myself have you. Have you ever had the one night. The one night stand. Have you ever did that. You have i ever did a one. Nice stand yes. I sure as i was on see was experience. One nice then. I don't know because i guess it wasn't because i go back. Listen we got a been. Thanks for being in the chat room. One more question when you get married. Remember virus your wedding to. I'm getting married on june. The twelfth small ceremony okay alcohol. We said we ain't doing now. We we wish we could be lockdown with that one vagina action joy. Appreciate job people go. Yeah we'll take a quick break and And we're going to get into the news but barbie Let me call my beloved. because we're going to dedicate our smash tonight to johnson is now asia angel johnson's u2 at least try to have a one now so you would have a one night stand would celebrity definitely. That's like bragging rights like your bag soup with a regular person regular like if i'm gonna do it. I want to have really regular when you talk like that would have regular. That's not good enough. You do it really rag. y'all it is. What are the chances of you being a you around morsel. That's my point. So i know will never happened more celebrities or around more regular. I'm i'm around. If that's the case your chances of doing this would be somebody regular right. Yeah allen is a habit because my chances of being around so one of celebrity status to make it happen. Allow your hope one time one day you. In a moment of weakness the weakness you do have a one night stand. I don't have a one nice shopping morning show. Sydney barbie has gone coach coach. Buddy coach news on the phone. So let's talk the kosher before we take a break. New england coach jewel. God bless you. We've got a lot of snow out here but it could be worse could be in texas. Have a coach a lot of sports. Going on the new york knicks winning We're gonna talk about a carson wentz. He got traded boy got traded. We'll talk and and you know the coaches philosophies and also his show is well they call it on friday. We appreciate coach. Practice cox not pause blackheart and a few others. We've had been down that one night stand trains. We've made multiple stops a in our lifetime or weeklong. Now you said prentice said he had a one night stand practice that he has many of at one back away in connecticut in economist. He's having don't chat run around. Here shown wait in bed coach. Have you ever. because bobby cologne has a barbie. Cologne has never fascinates me. She's never thought because in a sense. We we respect you. But we sympathize. At the same time you haven't had any fulfillment i much prefer. There's other things. Besides strange's johnson went to the bathroom again. You've never turn. Why because coach have you ever in your lifetime experienced. Having a one night. I play basketball. Yeah yeah now coach. Bobby and i want you to listen to this. I'm listening because you're not gonna listen to me and wanna your numerous one. Night stands prince cox pause. I've had one. Night stands bardy clone three nights in a row. That is such a hole hours. I was such a little whore coach playing basketball now. We remember coach is a basketball coach. That played basketball coach. That didn't play basketball coach. Kill us one of these scenarios before we get into the you know we talk about. Because i want i really want to know about carson winston reason why barbie cologne because contract is so complex. I want to know what the phillies gave up. Who anyway coach. What happened at night when you dunk the basketball my friend. It was a freshman year in college. And i was also a walk. I was on the track team as well so we went to that you know that initial orientations meeting at the end with the will do athletes come in and it was. It was a different time. You know high alert was a really good movie and you done So i think it's hard look like he was took rhode. Then you know so. I decided you know what. Let me go introduce myself. You know we're going to be teammates now. So so so i introduced myself. I sat down said. Hey doing drove this this this we go back and forth about it. All couples jokes later a back in her room. You know i'll go show you a comedian you go you just keep. He can get back to the room kinky back in a room and everything who challenge now. Now jokes stop now. There's no more hockey. Hey and so we must. And of course i was there for mission i completed my mission after mission was no but i know jake off for a roommate gets back and the next day at practice it was kind of like a that was dando but this is now gone. Yeah if the common denominator with everyone who shared their one night stand. What's a pleasurable one. Which he joked hisself into the vagina went before getting into regina jokes. He said even though you were married in the relationship at this was in his college years and he experienced that now maybe he might not tell the story an impasse in the years. But this is a story barbie that you need to have you. Don't need to you. Do you need to have this in your catalog of life. Film superb cologne. I want you to think about it. I fantasize on his first and then even as a grown ass woman. It's okay name to at least one time experience. A one night stand. Would you agree. Go coach occupants showing. I would definitely agree. You gotta understand. Nobody really knows how. Good rich cracking safes. Until you have a risk and also saint common common denominator with princess myself angel true and princess. Is this a since you. You're not gonna notice it happens. There's a sense of euphoria park. Yes that it's it's different than like a dayton and going having whatever this is a whole different round of you four that you have with a sensible. Maybe doing something wrong. The so much pleasure. At the same time barbie had to experience without right the forbidden fruit. It's forbidden for reason. Okay okay all right. Not not now. Barbie combined is a football fan coach. She loves the eagles. I'm a jet fan of from new york. That's fine right. it's snowing again. We cannot hear this picking up and The young young quarterback the can't remember his name He took over the team. Two await no the bill for the eagles. The young the young black mom. Jalen i care most guzman. So i got hurt. Jalen hurts gentlemen. So he took over the team. They put winstone the best. He started crying and now yesterday. He was traded. Bobby colom wentz to the indianapolis colts. Who has the Offensive coordinator who used to be with the eagles who won the super bowl. He's over there coach to first question is bobby. He had this contract. This massive contract. Who pays for the rest of his contract is a contract. Still out there coach. How do they work this out. Who he has re hundred four hundred fifty million dollars remaining on his contract. I think it was picks up. The how much is it. I think it was done. Three mill wrestlemania do the upper team pickup. The contract do the previous team payoff. The how does that work now. It depends on how to deal with to deal with me given some on some shade subject deals. You know you pay you. You're trying to buy out because you just want to get a So you you. Organization prior to trade will Will say i'm gonna. I'm gonna take a percentage of this. I must continue to pay percentage while we trade deal that is other situations with free and clear with you. Destroy that you take over the contract and that's the case with carson wentz. That is not disturbed by the fact that we seen what he can do why. He was sitting on the bench time so thirty three million dollars. You're gonna be somewhere else not stinking it up somewhere else cali happening. Don't have a job. That s jazz theory that point. Good joe that is an excellent point kind of nick. Will i think he's passes crime and football's but you absolutely right but even bass inclined showing your jets fan even passing right now. They say that they were signing colin capital company. You wanna do a little dance. Yes i would be excited if the jets had signed up to today made an announcement. That colin kaepernick is the Starting quarterback for the jets. But you do bring up a good point on almost entitlement. I hate to use that word that this is happening data where this guy who we know is a horrible quarterback it's traded and gets his money to go to another team and cabinet can't play football with good point coach. But let's even talk about the ones that are playing football and look back that that is not getting treated right. And he's a very good. Ever since shawn watson yeah i would gladly take the shawn watson on the carson wentz and if i had to trade deal thirty three million let them shawn watson contract. I'm telling you did at least the at least ten ten teams right now in the week. I'll gladly pay extra thirty. Three million for shawn watson. Wow sometimes it. Gets it angers you in just a little bit you know barbie cologne. This kind of entitlement happens and professional sports especially football on a quarterback. I ain't even mad at carson's contract i give. I applaud his agent for putting all this together right. Oh yet but they but at the same time. Look at the standards here foot. Nfl football quarterbacks. That are five to ten times better than this guy costing whisper probably have to go to. I don't even think he could. Even he has to probably have a fight for a quarterback job. I don't even know the regular quarterback out there put her like this. He's so far behind in that condition. This still probably going to give it to either pay and you before he gives him. He's so far that jock in the eagle in indianapolis he just sitting there watching extra coach. Wow that's something that coach. Thank you because this is something that we need to be aware of in this business transactions with nfl football and quarterbacks in this entitlement that carson wentz is getting. And you right dax's i would pick that of prescott twenty times over carson wentz. I will play whatever you need to pay for that prescott over cost Okay what's luxury tax. Okay i'll pay that. You want me to imitate that contract gladly. Do you know because of wednesay. Still think about think about that too. I mean we talked about william getting traded that contract. That's going to go to somebody else. And is he really paying that much. Now a million left me thirty three million dollars worth hip to watch him play. That's crazy now. Before we let coach going please let us know where we all can find you now. Let's go back to the collegiate days of coach. Say that coach. Everybody coach jews party. He said he went shrek. As well playing basketball i guess tracking running as a whole different animal. Wait what happened. I thought i was going back. Never taken out at three. Never did you try recently. When your system you lie. Facebook playing softball. You don't get call get any anyway coat running track running. For what distance did you run. I ran the eight hundred. Four hundred mile bobby That is forget about that. Hundred meter sprint thing. Both get about that. That's where he's running around the whole half baby. I asked him. I think i play basketball. One track eight. And how did how did that. Come about running track. I'm jamaican okay. Well let's see my father's jamaica would jamaica jamaica right. When we gave to the states like sports my father was would say you know what your you could do that without any. I don't have to give them any further stories. Yes i into sport on track. So i'm not coordinated enough to do soccer. I just didn't have that ad foot coordination like everybody else. Did i got the disappointment as the jamaican that could play soccer. That's the question my mom a couple of times like right and then so i started running track and other natural. I could run for hours and just not get tired. And and so. That's where it started and actually a basketball coach stormy at a track meet during the long jump and then asked me to come play and information on i'll be playing basketball and running. Track the one eight hundred meters track prank. Yeah and the whole track. Look around. the ball was coming in. I had a one night. Stand a long jump. This is some vaginal back in the day. Right back that the nineties. It was like right after the eighties. Kevin casual casual sex type lifestyle so in the nineties it was yelling and i was gonna go because we gotta go. Let's close coach before you give information track shoes. That these guys were like manute barbeque. You're running around here with us. Joins these attracts shoes. Coast hundreds and hundreds of dollars barbecue. The wheel like olympic track coach. Probably have some track shoes back in the day and now that we never heard of that probably a few hundred dollars i would ask some water as a more popular ones like since i was additional adding zoom rival dis by nike. Still make the versions of it just the other day. Wow it kind of took me back to see it Branches the spring changes that. I had 'cause this is poplar during the time right there. Was this a sprinter michael. Johnson that He wanted four hundred. Eighty two hundred. He broke the record one like the fastest times ever shoes that he had like all things right and he had all like a patent leather type goal show when he would at the olympics. I almost fell out. I need to get that. She do if. I don't have that show i quit. I don't wanna run. No more. But i don't have that you so i finally went out and got that she got book. I to convert a nineteen point two three and the two hundred if i have that shoe last well. That's not the case. It's not the shoot. That man worked hard. You did what he did. But the shoe look for nominal on my feet. When i was running identical nineteen point three think i lost that race the first time. I want to show what. I look stabbed. And what's the average price of the shoe that show at the time with one hundred and nineteen dollars this barbarous that this thousand dollars remaining now when i used to smoke crack i did a lot of spring. Yeah did a lot of sprint in an eight hundred meter. I wish it everyone quick break and then we'll get out because it's snowing everybody coming back and you will find me any way you get. Your podcast is ball court with coach drill world the world basketball. You can check it out anyway. You get your podcast. You could go to see. Wfan sports are right there. Also you can. If you wanna hit me either go to williams next level training dot com. And you've seen right bid directly get in touch booker. You can booker. Training crazy is is great. Well thank you appreciate this class coach and so much we appreciate. But we'll be back on iraq iran Folk guest put with a smile with that did is the one game. Do we get out of here. Do whatever you wanna do. We're going to do a news story to one quick Everybody i wish we can show your people people who live in this part of the country right. Now you'll notice and safeties. I and it's starting to snow sticking to the ground so we do one and then we get out of here because you know safety first and we want to continue doing the show. And i don't want barbie to get hurt right and me getting here and i don't want show i'm happy to be slide. And getting back backhoe lewis line right. We'll show have you wanna show cindy walling. Come on and good morning. Then a builder getty show. How are you darling. Hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on okay go ahead. We're back with. That was cool. I applaud applaud. You my yes sir yes sir. Oh yeah you gotta question action like not even a question but a combination you know on Y'all should do some better screening a julio except in in Sean hav immonen and show you know public chat. Hey whatever will be. You know posted on what i posted my experience spec in does not you know because the thing about it. I know there's a lot of people out there that feel some kind of way about was going on and everything that's far as this cold in that stuff is concerned you get themselves off. I share my experience. May maybe it might change some people or whatever and then this colo nowhere comes calling people dumb and everything like that like like right. Who's that these people. So hold on. Bobby let's go. Let's go to to his post. What what we do is with the league the post but listen again. It goes back to pull the chatterbox. People have opinions. Adrian is like hold on a second hold is like is like a wreck mario. Everyone has one on social media without facts but this is the only place where they could go to start typing in opinion. That has nothing to do with what you're doing and nasty liability of the internet now. We we're believed the post. I don't even know what it is but we needed if you don't you don't delete the post you know. Stand get them saying but the thing is you know he. He's he's going on about. How own oh. I want pray. Pray for nobody. That dumb enough to take that vaccine. Oh by the way. I don't pray anyway because you know i don't believe in god and on and on and and was created to control the masses and i got i got knowledge itself and everything. Hey misspelling words to go somewhere. Asian asia bailey circus. But i'm is john clown somewhere agent. He may get a job or some adrian. My friend who burn way before all of this and love your family. Your wife is beautiful people. Your kids are beautiful. I know you guys literally welcome to my world. My friend welcome to the world is shown harvey. You gotta get all of that because again people don't have any tax. They go on the chatterbox. And they say these things that are not even relevant. There's no truth to them now. Do we vet. Sometimes we do. Sometimes we don't but we get like twenty thirty fifty we get a lot of members coming through the rhone all the time so you know we don't we don't have the time to sit and vet people and they how you doing right. We do any dumb or they get disrespectful. We already have in our god lines which you should just fine. I just wanted to get that much about that birthday angel. Mom come a year year. You have the option. You can block them yourself. Go in his name. No buses something disrespectful to him right. I'm i'm not. I'm not about blocking nobody. Let everybody say whatever they want. They're not going to back end in a day. At the end of the day you get loose in the members of the year chat room all grown you started giving given on cheat sheet zone grand theft like brother living you come from some guy. We'll be blocking them off. I ain't even going to town with this On i'm not gonna waste my time with with that person you i'm concerned about. I'm not gonna waste time with this barbie. Whoever that does block them there see they found out off time man. Now let's move on. I'm for sure. I'm going to bet my life on the barbie but for sure that agents spaghetti man has how to one nicely dan in his life. So i'm gonna ask them this question right now adrian my friend. God bless you the whole marriage. That was my ran for tuesday. I just wanted to get that off my chest. That's his has everybody out had adrian yet. Have you ever had like myself. A few in this chevron princess apprentice cocktail pause coach. Zoo also angel johnson. Thank you andrew for. Share your story my friend before the marriage and all that have you ever had a one night stand man from brooklyn all day. This cloud brooke burke a lot of things going on in brooklyn that thing on the brooklyn. I'm not saying no. Of course saying there's a lot of things that happened in brooklyn that continues to happen in brooklyn that will continue to happen. You know the the the thing about brooklyn you know. Like like the biz. Millions of people living on top of each other. You know you know where people are. That many people conditioner in a small area. You know you been happened well. No we'll take that will say it is an abundant a woman all over this so new york city things happen so i asked him barbie cologne. I gotta go. God bless you. Yes asia the spaghetti man. One of brooklyn from brooklyn has he ever had when they stand and his answer was i'm from brooklyn. Oh that's it. Why would you have real quick here. Ted cruz took a flight to cancun wild texas under this hill. Crazy storm Mess him heads family and he said he immediately has second thoughts as soon as the plane. Land of the game right back ted cruz. Senator of texas defendant taking a family vacation to cancun mexico. Thursday after critics accused him abandoning the constitution the constitutes since yeah pronouncing at the height of a catastrophic winter storm that left more than five hundred thousand people without power ted cruz at that. He had lost power his home for two days before elected to travel and admitted that he began to have second thoughts almost immediately after boarding the flight. Heidi who was his wife and me. We lost power for two days crusade referring to his wife. Our house was dark. we had no heat. We were all huddled around the fireplace because it was the only heat and house and after a couple of days. The girls began Being really cold Entertains now house. Hold on pop up and outside. The girls looked The girls looking school had been canceled for a week so we took a trip somewhere warm. And he blamed on his girls. And he's he only war-damaged chaperone kids but his wife. Heidi her text messages. Relieved and to a friend of her neighbors and she was inviting them to the trip to mexico and she And i quote. She said Ten ten and i are going to take a trip. Poll numbers that she said. And if you guys wanna come. We're going to go for a week. We may go to cancun. There's a direct flight at four forty five in the hotels is almost at capacity. She reportedly in the note. She says she also wrote in her text measures. If you guys is she said are you guys warm. We have a fireplace. Let us know. She was talking to her friends and her family and our houses freezing. She said that We are going to stay this. I and we and we couldn't stand it anymore than we are going to mexico so His he's low live trying to blame it on the kids. Kind kinda backfired on ted cruz. Who immediately came back to texas. You lied on your daughter. A look pro. Just say that. She was scared he didn't want to be in texas. You wanted to go to mexico. I know you can't say this to be warm and then come back when this is over with. It's not a good look bro. You are lucky that you are just being. He just won his seat again. He got six year term. You lucky this was an election year. Joe as was done maiming very disrespectful. You lied on your daughter you. He had to immediately come back. His ticket was for friday or saturday to return out there for three or four three or four day. But he can't write back the next thing you might back at the He was gonna blame it on his. Y'all gonna drop my daughter or with clearly stated that he was coming back sunday tat not a good look. Man people in texas Suffering and going to cancun is just not a good look and they even ask the governor. You know the governor said the governor said. I don't have no time to figure out what ted is. We have an emergency and everything is done. You talk the ted. Ooh i talk about that racial today. We are going to announce the chapel member of a to do that because this is each and every friday and ready to count going out. Are you ready one. Two three dr smith you are the new check on the week to week back member. Felipe paid take the week the week. You're the chat road member of the week. Hey let's clap going smith. You ought to chapman remembered week. If you could call it in ninety seconds we love to talk to you or not. We'll see you on monday. Everybody applaud dawn. Smith chat remembered week. Thank you so much. We appreciate you and your participation in this show. Bobby witt can find us any cindy. J. off facebook's cindy j. xinjiang either three on snapchat and the underscore j. on instagram barbeque along. Facebook barbeque along design and stylists on instagram design. Bay three am four eight four. Jay okay shall have your facebook community. Facebook is y'all y'all pray for bobby leaving and they'll make sure we get on safe. We're going to get on outta here. 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Episode #29 "Fortunate Son"

Talking Sopranos

2:17:02 hr | 10 months ago

Episode #29 "Fortunate Son"

"But somebody. Things. All right. Very good. I got a very special show here. Yeah. especially for you somebody you acted with, you know more than you know one of the people you acted the most with on the show actually. My TV wife I haven't seen her in a while I am. Very. Excited to see I've spoke to but I haven't seen. Well born in Brooklyn. appeared in over fifty movies including Mickey Blue Eyes Sleepers Deep Luc- appeared in over twenty two different TV series including curb your enthusiasm nurse Jackie, the blacklist, the night of blue bloods nominated for an emmy. The one series. Most of all, you know her from the Sopranos where she played. He sister to Tony Soprano Yahtzee. Crazy. Crazy bitch lease welcome. I eat two to yes. How? Can. Look to. Thank you. Thank. You both look great you. Thanks for hanging in there. So. You know we've been watching the show. From the beginning and it's the first time you know. I don't know if you do you watch your show you ever seen in now I did try like a few years ago I was with easy and we were going to try to watch it, and then we started watching it together and it was a little too soon after Jimmy died. And I wasn't ready. But now I think I'm GonNa do it. I'm I. It's hard to watch yourself. I wasn't ready before either. Him and all that my and time. But now this was kind of perfect timing to start looking back and really appreciate it. What we did and what everybody did and I. Think you know one day I had seen like one episode for certain celebration for Sopranos. And I have to say I went to a theater I saw and I was like Oh my God like that's a great episode like Am I. Think I'm ready now I. Think I'm ready. You know I gotTa Tell You you know. So we we started a only started the podcast in April and we've been watching now This is the third episode of the third season. Today and this is when you stroll. My delayed. Have to tell you I haven't seen. You came on and see. What was it episode one or two? To say, yeah I, mean you Janice most evil crazy fucking lewd it's Very complicated. On? Yes she does you know I I guess like I never looked at her like that because you can't look at her objectively that way for your filming you know when you're being her and so I never got to appreciate her I think. So I think like if I go back and watch her I think I'll have a better time of it. She they wrote great stuff. You know come on who gets to like you know steal a lake not many people at. All your side Jobs Katie Roaster. Ace, garage and the videos and. Why not? You Gauge Nineteen. Year old you say. And he could go all night long. Only on my guys. All. The character that Turk pipkin played all I forgot the. Name. Of. Something like yeah, oh he was. Born again or something that was funny. I remember shooting that because everybody was like at the table at the kitchen to the dining room table and was like laughing about the and I couldn't laugh to be angry and serious about them picking on him than the knock the narcolepsy right? He was left. Born on have you heard the good news traffic? And I. Remember being like you guys stop I'm trying to forget stay in character. So Before we get started I wanted to yeah acquistion came in. Episodes back. Who would now Janice was with? Renew people but Richie, and then she was Ralphie Ralphie and man yeah. Turkey. Said after Bobby. Di. Next Guy. Who Do you think it was good question. Oh God. I, don't know I think she's got she wants money. He's gotta go for some money who has some money I. Don't know about her quality I D. I. Don't know. Maybe I think they always have a little butt heads a little bit does to. THOUGHT HE RECO Guy Last. Week we shot that we did the episode of the Libya's funeral after. Do you remember when we were filming in the House? Okay. Do I. Remember that you at Drier weather for finding it. You you guys killed me the whole group was hysterically like The that to me is the funniest scene and you killed me I mean it was just I mean who's to say I mean I never forget that everybody I couldn't couldn't keep it together. We couldn't keep him as soon as that musical non we all lost. Music A. Serious serious. Production. I Love Janis because she? She really believed I mean she was a sincere. She was a real narcissists with other things but like she never really thought she did anything bad. She really believed it. It was she was like L. Mentally Illinois home. Yeah I mean. Really I mean because she did not like she really thought she was you know she was right i. mean she really believes that that's why it works. So well, you know what I mean. Just you know the the scene when he puts you on the bus after you. For Season Two after you kill Ritchie Yeah and you lose it and you say I love him. So I love much. Yeah. That's one of the best. Acting moments in the whole series I'm not blowing smoke stop I. She's so 'cause the the conflict between who he was, what he did, what you did and you're still talking about how you love him. He was so in the moment in not seen thank you I mean a lot of it honestly is it's great writing to I. Mean you know it really is some that you don't get to do. So if you just follow that I, I remember that day with Jimmy. We'd all work and prepare, but sometimes, you'd have to be a little bit more on your ball and usually I didn't go often turned into a pretzel or anything. But this day I'm in the car driving over to the set with Jimmy and. Is like I'm like trying to get a little bit desert big scene and is looking at what's wrong with you today. And I was like Oh. Oh sorry. I'm just trying to get get into the mood and he's Oh sorry. Sorry. He wasn't used to me trying to be so you know well because. A lot of times when we were working early in the morning. Six, thirty, seven. YOU WOULD START I eat at not chance was. On you dance and then then you go and see. Saving Aida. GonNa be here until. Easy. High. Now. Blessed to have such good jobs and I was so happy I was so nice. To go to work with people like you really liked within our group we all got along. You know everybody was happy for everybody. Yet. Nobody was like Oh. You got a better CNN. I did like we were really proud of each other. We were really supportive of each other Jimmy It was a family. I mean it really really was and I, mean to this day I I feel like seeing you guys. It's like the other day last week it's just like we're still connected and And guess what if you want to 'cause tomorrow's birthday? Birthday. Twenty Nine Yeah. So let me ask you. Season Two when you came on a on for a season did you know? My God that was a big thing. Well, I. Got Hired and of course it was excruciating because you know when it first started Jimmy actually called me because James and I you know we we met Join Streetcar named. Desire on Broadway in nineteen ninety two. People who worked with him. Before and we had done I'll. Movie we did Angie, and then he idol part and some other movie that he was in. So we were friends and yet called me up and said, hey, there might be something in this show I'm doing for the first year in never panned out. So he calls me up and now I'm watching the Sopranos and I love it and comes the opportunity edition and now everybody wants it i. Mean Actors Yeah. I'm a huge Marcia gay harden fan I mean and so she was up for it luckily, she wasn't right for the part or else I probably wouldn't have gotten it but I figured once I did get it that I just figured hey, I mean this is going to go on right I worked so hard I did the episodes so David Chase calls me up we. Was Right before Thanksgiving and he gives me call these as hey, we have this great episode for You is episode I Kill Ritchie and he tells me about the episodes Bob Bob up. I'm like Oh. My God, this is great. This is Great David he goes, and then you get on the bus and go the Seattle, I'm like okay. And I? Do I come back is again I eat I don't know that I don't find out until basically June. And you know it was really hard because you get this job at get these people you get this fantastic opportunity to be part of this all, and now I don't know if I'm coming back. So it was really really hard and to tell you the truth and not believe you Nancy Marchand past at the same time like two weeks after my mom died and they actually both died of the same disease lung cancer and I don't know if I would have been back if Nancy. Didn't leave. Yeah. I'm not sure they I. Don't think they have me back or maybe like once in a while or something you had a goal. So so from the member yeah, I mean you just had to hang on you didn't actually had a job now I, and I, get another job until they let me completely let me go. contract. And it was emotionally hard. I mean especially after working hard doing well, you know killing Rehana. Thank you but. I am in God I didn't I didn't know this until all this had passed. You know and working with Nancy come on I mean I knew. And I mean I know personally. But I was a big fan of hers consummate actress, and then just the opportunity to work with her on any level but those scenes in the hospital I I was I felt so privileged really early. So when you when you do through throwback. How Jim Calls you says it might be too. Yeah. So you addition the first season or you did it no, he mentioned something I said, thanks James thanks for thinking of me whatever. So nothing happened and then the next year they introduced Janice and so the audition came up but don't forget everybody else was up for it. You know like everybody who? Did. You have to go. Did You Say Take me did you. Could Georgeanne Chiel. I knew them for years. They knew at least. I didn't have to do that tree audition the first thing I went in and I read. I did read for all of them. You know like the group David and whoever else was in there and then they got called back and with everybody and I will say once I, go to Jimmy and Jimmy's like, hey, why don't we just go over the scene I really want you to get this. Am I said, you know we kind of went over it and I said to James That day I. Swear I'm not I was like listen Jimmy of course I want this but what do you pray if it's meant to be it's going to be I just have to say you have to lead me my money so I'm. I. I, I don't get it but they need rent money. So you have to give Jimmy. You go with the jury just once the second one I just read one and the next day. They called me in. They said, can we meet you tomorrow and I was like, Oh, my God what's happening. So go down to Silver Cup and I meet with David and I lean and me and I'm thinking shit what's going on? So David then says to me you know we really really liked you but we really need you to stick to the script. And I was like, oh I could stick to the script you had come from films that had been doing a woody allen things or you know movies where you could Improv I haven't done television on that level and I was like I'll stick to the script note you know I was just like doing Jimmy reading it throwing in some you know some stuff. So, anyway was that that was it and then you know then I told you they tell you. You Tom did they tell me there I? Don't remember my Jones. I don't remember. Can you believe I don't remember that? I. Think I don't remember. Your way in. To Janice. How did you approach what was based on somebody real what was? What was your wear definitely not based on any one I basically always kind of look at what's there in the script Ambae by what's there obviously more things common and she evolves but just kind of find it organically like you. You do the homework a little bit of what stay Aaron what they say about her and the beginning again. There was it was more par-fie, the as Shenzhen, and so I put it all together. And I came out with. What I came out with an obviously as things were written and you saw the different dynamics of her and. Her levels all our levels than I you get to add on like as many of us I mean when you start in your your first episodes a, you're as big as you're you can be, and as the character grows at as there's more writing, you expand it you're getting obviously more information I mean I felt like she was a whole person when I started but then by getting more and more information. She just grows as a human as as character. was interesting to see because in the beginning she still the HIPPIE and she turns into a mob wife. and. Then when she gets on the bus, she's a hippy again. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it could be anything. She was what suited her would. Lobby and Janice survivor no matter what she was I think she felt like she was on her side you know to her nobody was on her side she had a survive. You know like I, think she always thought Oh everybody loves you know Tony and pour me so she she did what she had do no matter who it hurts but never really thought she was hurting anyone I think she just thought she was walking out I south. You know. See Janice as very much. Tony sister if very simple in so many lying. I mean the I mean they did come from that family don't forget I mean they still have that distill siblings by birth I. mean their genes are still their genes I mean, do you ever see effect of family where? Like you still see the through line like maybe this one's different that way or does this but they're still got through line inside. You know there's still part of that family and they are they come from sick mother a really sick mother and trying to survive that and each one does it differently you know for you know but they were both smart people they took logger a gangster father and a gangster five. Murder Yeah. So when you when you grow up That it's okay the murder. And where the board? Where are the boundaries I mean if you think that you can if you gotta kill someone in, it's okay. Then whatever you do really okay as long as you know, you take care of yourself. You know about line what's wrong with our family when you see on who was Kinda Great? It's a moment of a rare moment of kind of stepping back in like, wow, we really are up. Yeah I mean she rail I don't think they did that. But Y- everybody like whether you're sick or not even sick people have issues of lights bod why didn't we get loved or what happened I mean? The beauty of the writing and with David was. There was no one dimensional characters never our people and between the writing and the actors. It you know it's no one note not one person in the world goes one way it could be funny could be boring. You could be you know scary you can be tender. I mean that's real life and so therefore that's so wonderful about all the characters because they they were real people first and foremost whatever else they did. They still were real people a male had contradictions. Could be one way like you said, one minute they could be doing something actually very caring during next minute just vicious. And and that I think that is the truth of that world or any world I mean, you've seen it. You know yes maybe more. So one way it doesn't mean that doesn't exist in their makeup. Let's you know so so so are you to tell take me back you grew up in? Brooklyn. Did you actually grew up in the lower east side of Manhattan I was born in Brooklyn and my mom was sick a a very I was one. So my mom was sick my whole life she was mentally ill. Father was a bit of a you know beginning Bohemian when I was born and a incredibly talented painter artist flooded cellars work we I grew up on the lower east side when it was on. Cool to live in the lower east side I grew up in a very like Black Puerto Rican neighborhood Jewish neighborhood what street. Henry Street on. High can rockers before it was like a while and I grew up with this real ethnic upbringing. I. Went to school actually in the village because they want to go the better schools. So I took the train by myself at an early age i. loved where I grew up played had bob, you know hung out in the streets love the people although my father being the artist we lived in an on renovated synagogue. And I mean an on renovated Magog like you walk in and we took the pews out and my father hey, did on the part where the men would prey on the floor and I'm talking I'd come home and I smell the beautiful oil like the paint and the Turpentine. Big Huge canvases vary extremely down sold to a great gallery So I grew up I I was very shy believe it or not I swear I. was I mean really shy i. did not love this. I. Want to have like. Wall to wall carpeting, I wanted the normal life. But. during the summers because of this artist's way. Go the block island or Martha's Vineyard. So I had this very diverse. Group of France they. Some of my friends were on food stamps. Some of them lived in you know in in Boston as millionaire. So I grew up knowing sorts of people and as I still have. Friends of all ages all ethnic just. No judgment just people. So was your father and like John and Nick Detroit's Father Brothers, oh. Yeah. John's father. Yeah. He was the oldest one. So John's father actually grew up in the and then came over at a young age but my father was born here they had four brothers a sister actually. Everyone is passed so that sad but John and I are really close actually spoke to him today he's a great Guy John. Know. He's a good person a good. A good. A good friend a lot of people. Yeah. And so the jargon into the acting I do it together. Basically, John is five years old that may so John at my cousin Ralph, they would always do imitations and my sister who's four years older. They all did plays and it all the uncles loved all the old movies. So they do imitations and watch the old films and Y'all. So my cousin and Nicholas to WHO's more my age they all were doing theater and shows am I was too shy one. So John went off to Suny New Paul San. Years later I finally started getting into it and they had all been into it. So I said to be an actress and everyone's like, yeah. Okay. But I didn't feel that need to be like, no look at me. So I went away sent myself to college I was on my own since I was fifteen. I would assume he knew. All you. saw a great theater department and then I'll never forget. So at one point I'm doing some shows in June comes to see me I was like Oh my God you're really good. Good. You know whatever and then I ended up doing some off Broadway with him at first I would do the lighting or the soundboard, and then eventually I was in the place but and John and I had this nice bond of working together you know and so I've done some of his movies. Nepotism if. I was in his first movie in Mac. Oh My Scene when they cut off the roof of the car and driving around. I'm one of those guys. I haven't seen that movie in a long time. and. He played Howard cosell Monday. Right how would co sell. With being Nick Oh. Cooking sausage. Scraped to. A fighting crazy crazy funding. Wonderful. Act One of the few people that call Jim James and you did that for whatever we work together Yeah James Most of the time I'm I guess I mean I wouldn't really call Jimmy I'd say James I guess when we met Ninety two. Maybe Maybe I don't know why that's just how I call him J. James Sight of fuck. Get Out Jimmy. Jimmy was Bradley I was like I don't give a fuck who you are. I was like. The fucking Boston. They James Love is he loved it because I was like I thought. I. Knew You when you move in garbage bags, contract the bags that's what I did. Close in the fact that bag I was like you insane. The play were you a street you just so you met on streetcar with. Jessica Lang. Up where you Mitch and I know we were Steve and Eunice. Hubbub the APP. You and Jim were the couple. Yeah. Yeah we were. We were little people that but Oh. My God we fought back that like we had one fight and Alec is like Oh my God you to where you stop or any way you kissing make up. Please you know. was. We did a scene. I think it was the scene I figure what season that thing where roadies in that scene where she was blowing road he's above Blah and you jammed got into an argument you got mad. because. You thought he wasn't looking at you. Turned around and you got mad. I, got. James and Johnny v was in the scene and Jim was going to me AM I. Am I wrong and he wants to say. Would you? I mean I was in the middle. Going out of that well, that was I. Remember that day I actually was really sick I, swear to God, I had some major flu or whatever it was I didn't know but I mean Jimmy was. The most giving argue so he never wasn't there now. Because, I was sensitive because I was ill or maybe that day he wasn't I went bananas. It got so mad at me. He walked like I don't fucking givers judge us. I remember because John was alive. Remember John the Director and I like this I was like, oh thanks, John. I resist. Everybody wasn't sure at first. They thought it was part of the scene and then they were like I. Think. I. Mean you know nobody I mean I talk to Jimmy all the time nobody Lisa no I I mean I literally. I talked to him and I have been talking to him and he is I don't feel distant from him because I I know he's with me and. He such. You know he was such an unselfish person. Getting gotTA. Get. Sad. But He really was. Like so talented and I said to his friends and all his friends that he knows from way way way way back in. High School. Guys don't want Tommy what they said to me they said when I had seen him years later doing sopranos they said, you know I, eat a we did streetcar. We went out one night all of us and he said, you know you told us Jimmy was gonna be something now I don't remember telling them this but a told me I did and I guess I just felt but. You know he he had that special thing but James was so hard on himself. You know it was harder on themselves than anyone. And but talk about if anyone needed him. If. You needed him. He was there for you. No matter what even. If I. Don't I don't think he was ever hard on anyone except himself off. So giving. It reactive feel comfortable saying. Up His Lines Jim was there to help and yeah, I, remember Robert Loggia by the bench. had a real tough time medecine? Just. Getting older and Jim sent his person over to help him run the lines that night. More patient and and He was never. It was always very giving and mentoring very very giving and working with him like. There was no work you know like scene with someone and you're all of a sudden you're like Shit like trying to. were is so hard to. Connect do something but yeah for the most part most of us I mean, I didn't get to act a lot with all the guys except you know Steve You but it was always so easy. It was like everybody Jimmy was like I didn't feel like we were acting like jocking you know a one of my favorites feeds. I haven't seen it since like twenty years. But when I go to anger management and we're sitting around the dining room I, don't know where you I don't think you guys got to it and hold him there. Yeah. Okay and then and James James Tony does it like that I'm so calm. So he provokes me he ended up provoking lean and I, lose it on him and that I got to see it. Now, you guys have inspired me to go watch it. Of Your your view, your other lovers out the shell. I know that bobby was your favorite. Prove that. Isis fasts I had with. Let me tell you. He seemed like a little pussycat. Animal. I do remember this because of course, I knew. Before they put us together. Of course, I didn't know you that well, and you called me and I came over to your apartment. In gramercy. And we ran the lines and you couldn't have been nicer and then we went on Second Avenue in the park. I. WanNa live. That way we got to know each other better and Getting married on the show where we had a lot of work. I. I've said it. We need. You never had a problem every. Second to I was just because Seattle good people. Some works honestly and they're good people. They're not. China do something else. The problem you know and if there's a question are you don't like something you just talked to them like, Hey, what do you think you know like how about this or how it? You know it's like it's when people start with a big ego. It's like when actors have egos, that's when you get a big problem. And we and that didn't fly on our show and like if people tried that they knew they got the message weekly at that was not the place for that. Yeah. That's not and I remember having I remember one scene at the kitchen. Season later on. And it was a really hard scene but to. And you said this is a hard so I could see it and they got it and it was great but you know you. Like not everything is once you learn your lines that doesn't mean that. You know here's. C.. Sometimes, it happens like that. You're like, what is it an and you don't know why is or is just a hard thing. You want to hear Nancy Marshall and started a story about me in her. So it's my I. It's my is it my first episode? Not Maybe it's my second episode, but it's the first year and I'm getting to do so a scene I think it was the third episode but I we skipped a second one. So I'm looking at the script and it's kind kindness scene where it flashes where are like throwing her down the stairs is a picture of something like that where it's like someone's getting thrown down the stairs. Anyway, it was a very strange. Kinda hitch cocky. escaped. And I swear to God. I'm reading it and I'm thinking Oh my God I I don't understand this. But who am I to say it's my second episode of the shut my mouth you know so we go to rehearse. A little bit and Nancy. Thank God she goes. On this stand is what the how, like he was I thank you Nancy I was like, okay. I don't feel so bad. She was like what? The focus this I don't understand this shit I was like, okay snuck. Me Either I was like, thank God, she was. She was amazing. Working. I met a couple times but I, I didn't have the pleasure working. It was also very when we did and she was in the hospital my mom was in is, is like a lot of A lot of life stuff going on. As. You vinnie and Annabella your first movie was true love to. Walk Three of you. Qadurah. Really good movie with Rondo. Many Fox I think there's like a huge amount of. Cursing a lot of cursing I. think they counted like eighty or nine? Oh. Yeah. I mean I never counted but I think. Although Nancy was a love yet nancy lease. On. Saint Sir also sang household saints. Did you that was your first film though that was my first movie? And that was I. remembered it because I was working at the time you know a regular nine to five job trying to stay alive and had a call in a bunch of favorites. So I. Could get the time off to film in because at that point, we weren't making money on it so. Do. Mom I I was working as a Mississippi in a commercial company, but it was like we were in the Sales Department for a commercial advertising company. So the directors yeah, I was the Office Manager We talked you talked about out different jobs was. Well, my main job my main job I did for seven sixteen years while was cleaning houses an an organizing houses I still organize houses. I'm the master organizer I'm the Best I am one of the best organizers around like it's like everything. Nobody is faster and. They say this woman, she wrote the book and Bubba but you know I been doing it since I'm talking years old and I love it. I just did it the other day my friend had moves I call her up on upcoming over. I. Drove from Montauk I went to my friend. I helped a bum bum bum. So I love that like if you asked me to talk about I could talk about organizing. For Hours. The Second Mall you search love now it's like, I think my I love I think a better organized than I am an actress. So you better watch out but you know what's weird. So I clean houses for sixteen years and I love cleaning houses I was on my own and everyone like when I went to college and I had no money I, come back for the holiday and I would book Gov cleaning jobs to make money to survive. So people would save up all when you coming back because they love the way a clean. I was a great. People say, Oh, you're great actors I know that I'm crate. I really was good. Now Forget it. I came in frequently down. Now we were. We were up at the Lake House that was Episodes. Everything's where it was basically just the four of us up there. I. See Yeah and the crew. and. There was another incident. That we about to this day. Chicken Salad. So. It's July. Hot Hot with by the lake and. Fun Yeah everybody swing in the crew at lunch. We make up and hair you know we can't do it all. ADDS lunchtime deriding the boats and speedboats beautiful. Lake and where's wedding? Eater you know as calling out. Back. Between thanks mom she's. So. For the third person, e- wants chicken salad. The way you need. You need to hear the story about the chicken salad okay. Let me just preface it preface it a little bit about why I had a breakdown with. Okay. So here we are I I find out a little bit before this how I'm diabetic okay and as a diabetic, you need to make sure you eat and you don't want to eat a lot of sugar you need your protein. So we go away where there's no stores or restaurants and trailers. So I go to the production and say, Hey, guys to the craft service and say, can you guys just have some make a whole thing about it? Could you have some protein? There I'm diabetic I'm trying to eat well now sex in the city if they said boo there'd be like. POWs the frigate Chicken, Salad Okay but on Sopranos how can I get the topic invalid? So I said that I planned it and I'm just trying to get some food. So at that point I blood sugar was dropping a little bit because you know it's not like we're filming and it's time for lunch I realized Oh, I need some something to eat and I was just asking for some food and. They never brought any protein there was no chicken salad or something. That's when I eat out became a cycle. Just like John is I was like whereas Jack Salalah. So I out but you know. Who's diabetic knows your blood sugar drops you need to eat but later that night, where do the see the carrying? Okay. So where Carmella? and Jimmy Bobby on the couch a JIM starts breaking balls. Zach. Vassar. Remember I either Tito. Jim, fallen. Ties. A bitch. I'm not I'm so. I just don't every now, and then you know I've I've calmed down now that I don't Sir. Our Our was that you know what it's like being was family. When you're working sixteen hours, eighteen hours, you have to seize his. Shoes. Hilarious. You can leave the said you. Could. Go anywhere. Couldn't even bring a container with me with the ice packs who were staying at the hotel, and so you know we all I says, you think he'd be have some proceeds. Oh my God and then when I lost that I was. Google a little. You can have cheese. Bread. That hasn't. Right not so bad a little. Oh my God I I had some friends over last night and I made such a cousin. It was like a tree birthday and I made a sausage sauce and then my friend may homemade pasta or my God it. Good. Good. So good. I. Make us at Sausage. And juice worked in Serbia I work in Serbia. That's why couldn't talk to you guys early. It was interesting. The Serbians were very nice. The food was very good the. Production a little just crazy. You do this. It was actually a Serbian television show, which is a nice part and the woman that was the lead was lovely. I mean the crew with the people of God. So great I mean really really Nice. But in a little disorganized at times you know is. Not, always easy being glitch, the shows in England. Well, actually, it's since Serbian but at one point of the woman in the character goes over to see her son in America and I play the next door neighbor. Jotted in in Serbia to be. They were. Posted but then Kovin happened couldn't leave. We were supposed to do half and half in America but. Yeah it was soon as it was what it was, but you know it ended up being a happy to work I was very happy to the Serbians were very Nice bluish-gray and a Lotta love I met some lovely people there. That were just so nice and Yeah. They like two Sopranos and Serbia I think. So yeah, I think they do I mean a of people were happy to see me and I had this lovely assistant who? Who I went to her house and I saw this artwork on on her in her home as beautiful and you know what she did hired their mother when in bought me a little painting from that artist, gave it to me as a call. In my kitchen I mean the happiest most beautiful loving. You know really Oh, by the way I have something Oh my God i Wish I. Could I have something for you guys from a guy in England talk to you about another time but really nice artwork that descends. Blanket but I'll tell you later. Didn't bring home of serving God did you talk now I'm on my. Old Now, what do I need I'm on my ancient please? Listen all my sexuality I don't know where what why do I have? No idea. Thank you happy happy. Birthday. so good. I mean I have to see you guys actually see you I will see. Shooting to new. Come back come. Back. Come out to my house in Montauk. All right sounds good with the extra people you friend. Thank you thank cat chow. Thank. You. Thank you so much I eat. We'll talk to you soon. Tennis Dick. Thank you. Fantastic great interview. Great Lady. tastic I could talk to her for hours man. She's great. Very funny and a lot of fun a lot of fun and aided great character. 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This is a cruiser, move it back a little bit Sopranos only the Good Die Young, nine, hundred, Ninety, seven. So that was what the end of the last season t-shirt Jimbo all the cast and crew this shirt. This is a real collector's item. I only have one show you have one somewhat I am somewhere I was talking about last week. The Ministry of Propaganda Shirt which you have to. Fine. But I found that lassus every year there was like a crushed t shirt or sweatshirt or something with a little. Inside joke quote said somebody said during the course of. And this was the ending was the final This was on the end man only the good. Meeting the Sopranos of Died Yeah Yeah I guess maybe I didn't think about it just now that it has number meeting. Unfortunately it does. I got a email from the pundit. We haven't heard from him for awhile and. This shit. Again, he's a little. He's he's a little upset. It seems figure focus off on. Well, just hear him out at least or her I. Don't know. You know we don't know. Who It could be you know women we don't know gentlemen. Just a quick note to ask. In quotations has my invitation lost in the mail. Seems, I've given you to lots of food for thought and judging by the comments on Youtube and social I've become a bit of a fan favourite. I am preparing a detailed explanation of the Doctor Goalie Paulie Walnuts Dad Theory. But may want to hold back till I. Join you boys on the air. As This is what I got for you is. See this why why? I'm going out of their way. I. But you know he is right about one thing he has become a fan favourite. Canadian. Fans on social media have brought up to me. I don't think they're fans of his but they do mention it. I'm not knowing. issue you worked on the show, a less you were an actor, a director audit, a crew, etc. You're not coming on the show that's the criteria. So we got to tell you that a s we said it before. I. Don't know if we can arrange kind of a middle ground. I don't really believe his theories I. Think he's a convoluted. Is So complicated all the time Michael sometimes things all what Do you think sometimes things are accidental and have meaning a double meaning accidentally. I think it's possible but that's only if you make it up I, don't think David Chase. I. Would Take Fifty Years when all the series, not only this schmuck. But so many other people with all these crazy theories, these deep deep thought David, chase won't be able to write it in real tiny Norwood yourself you. Five episodes? Will you think all this crazy stuff while I didn't go that far with that big theory about it's all a dream that I didn't I didn't have that in mile. Well, there you go. So there you go. But that doesn't mean that could have been David intention and we weren't aware we didn't need to be aware of because it's playing out in real time. Anyway I think it's interesting that this. Obvious. Santos. Who you know as a scholar about the sopranos hasn't reached out. We've talked about him. That was my guess. Maybe it's not. I don't know anymore I. Don't think it's immoral I think that's been. I don't think Amari US half the series. I think. Is Great. But I don't think. This is nonsense because you can What's the word I want to say I mean he? As very pretentious. Obviously, he wants to opinion of he wants to show how smart he is. He wants to show us and not everything is something sometimes it is what it is. Her Institute, This Cup is a cup cup there's no deep theory it's black. Well, here we go. This and the white lettering means that it's talking couple water going into this episode, which is called fortunate son and it. There you go on a lot of levels you have. Christopher whose father is dead and Paulie says to him. He's your father. In this episode, you treat him like you'd think a Tony like he's your father you have tony being the son of Johnny, and that resonates is a scene with him and his father. There's AJ dealing with be in the sun a Tony Soprano, and then his Jackie aprile junior dealing with being the son of the dead mob boss. is a title fortunate son a lot of resonance. Yes it does but you think. was. It before the fact or after the fact? Question I don't know probably after the fact, the type naming naming the thing. Yeah. But you might it might have been. The theme David Midas said, let's the theme of this is father son father. Son here. Too Great episode directed by Henry Branch, who we've he was a guest on our show and read by Todd Kessler who we hope to be a guest on our show, we have to contact the good old todd. I loved the episode. There's so much going on a lot going on and I enjoyed this a little bit. It's funny. It's sad. It's. A little bit everything in the swamp. And the retailer Janice is Tony Soprano with a wig. Basically. She in this episode she really she stoops said. So, there's she doesn't hold back anywhere. She says. There is such. I. Mean we'll get to it but one of my favorite carrots is is spent lava. She wonderful and a really good and. Favorite characters. Yeah. She's she's great. All right. So here we go. We're Christopher's apartment. He gets phone call. The smoke it we the phone rings. It's Paulie. Paulie wants to get dressed up and meet them at Modell's fucking lot. Adriana says don't go and took the day off a making your cheese hawks atmosphere saving of Christopher. Love Cheese. She's dogs and now is that. Hot Dog with cheese melted cheese on it. Is that a cheese? No. I think so. I'm not really sure I would assume so. Dal's is our friend Mitch Modell Mitchell family business. They've had for hundreds years, and Mitch is a good friend of of yours and mine we've been to the Yankee game with him many. Yard good generous. And and a close friend and unfortunately. It went out of business after his great grandfather started the business in the late eighteen hundreds said Nah. I think more than the pandemic because it happened before that I think it was Amazon. Is. Taking over the world you know. It's moved in on businesses you know and ensure it's just a matter of time before you know you're going to be able to order. Like mail order bride on, it'll be able to bet on the football games like they're doing here on everything. You know how the Talian Grandma, you know breach send me. A four foot eleven five footer. No. Most dangerous makes nice Sunday sauce for Zhou Sausage ribs. Now he comes to your house and she cooks for you. She comes over they mail as they pack like that idea. Floor eleven five footer now. No mole no mole, mustache. Now. I'm older than you. Do you remember this when I was young, they used to salesman would come over like dry goods guy and he would come like twice a month. And he would sell sheets and kitchen equipment and you know he become and sit down my mother. I'll guy they were silent and sit down. But no, you need this need to remember those guys know we didn't have that they were. They were the old time Amazon and then it would be delivered you know I. I think he was salesman maybe came by twice a month for something else. I'm else who knows. But. seriously. A. Guy You know I want the ball didn't look like you did he. Smith for years and years, and years. And there was a couple of them and they would come they. Would you know people like you said look announcing almost ten years old now we didn't have that we had a truck that came at the sharpen knives. Yeah. Yeah. We had a truck a bread truck to sometimes that will of fish truck. You know they had a fish fishman, you know. But there was a guy like dry goods, kitchen equipment forks, knives. You know all this household goods and you would order through him out booklets. So Amazon is taking over the world unfortunately Mitchell, modal? I. Absolutely. Love Mitch don't. Do you know anything about this they don't. Your candidate to get made, they don't tell you advance. They call you like that on the spur of the moment it's like a secret get out, get a suit on and get me over in the party I. Don't really know I mean the only thing I know from is obviously goodfellas and that's kind of the reference here they call them came into the That's based on real scancen. You know I don't know that much about the the being made ceremony I mean obviously through stitches this was the most sacred. Sin The stuff. About it, and then a couple of stitches. gave up the whole ceremony over the years had a couple of rats. Mob brats was it into the LACI papers did they go into? I don't know. Exactly where it came from, but they know how obviously and There's definitely movie references here. You know like you brought up goodfellas. She gets a little scared. He's going off all happy with the suit and there's there's also seen in the godfather with Carlo and their someone's helping him into his jacket. When he goes into the car, they put him in the front seat. Very. You know and he says, you see too many movies and when it cuts from this scene to Christopher in the parking lot, it's it's a very much like the seen Goodfellas railyard in front of the car Christopher's in front of the car with a cigarette push in. It's kind of a cool cinema reference in a cool cut. Yeah I think the both of those because Carlos sat in the front seat and that's where he gets strangled So I, think it's a little bit of both. Christopher meets. Paulie that both Jewish as dressed to the nines now when they says shoot cuffs, did you know what that meant? They had to tell you. Don't those Christophe. Shoot coffee and he's it's a classic report on how you doing. Kid. Given the hug. It's so Tony. Rica sharp is how he's got nice wings his his jet block you shoot cuffs. For, a second that Kristof is a little. Where we going even you doubt it. But I think they're also playing that up on purpose like. I mean that part of it just fucking around and just I don't know if it's always part of it, but it is here. Also. A little bit. I didn't know was Silvio driving the car until the basement you could see in the fall. Kunsi. He says so we're we're going when he gets in the car. Christopher says it but I think it's a looped line I don't think I it. It sounded like a looped line like Driving the car you remember. He was. Yeah. You can't see him if you look close enough. Weird is Christopher standing next to a Mercedes. When he's waiting. But in the rest of the episode, he drives our Range Rover. So landing. Trove Him Christopher Biesma Range Rover as soon as he's made. He goes out it goes out. You know now Dixie here to be making big money and he goes out and spend a ton of money on the radio and he still had the og license plate in this episode. Which is interesting We're in the basement Christopher, an eugene played by the Great Bobby for narrow made these guys I remember this day it was a hot day. We were all outside it was in location in a basement new. Jersey we're all on the grass off front. So Tonio here he is He was sitting on one s cheek Silvio says because he was afraid Kinda was unsure of himself. Christopher denies it older guys? Are There Bach Lot? I guess. He's a made guy or he won't be at the ceremony. He's made guy I didn't really know until then I think anyone who's going to be that close to the boss is to be made to saying these life like a high. Idiot and your, and you were in charge of the mood lighting his his lights and I remember Henry, the director. I didn't quite know what they were saying he plays lights and Henry came over and said, can you be? Come on be more like buckle law. Whatever the fuck that which means a lot I guess be like a big fat dumb idiots I don't know and you see them laughing I and he's playing with the lights. So I didn't quite know there wasn't much. To do. They give the ceremony they did he really prick your finger I don't remember. I mean but This is like a little bit of like witchcraft center, China stuff. You put in blood on a picture of saint and you're burning it like it's their swearing to burn in Hell If they betrayed his thing if they if they this has to come before anything. Including your family does Tony put it before everything? Well, first of all, there's a lot of bullshit here. Okay because he says, if something happens to you, we'll take care of your family bullshit. You hear this story, a million times complete bullshit Guy Goes to jail happened in Goodfellas. Henry Ho goes to jail and his wife he wasn't a May Geilo. Okay. This I'm sure at times it works out and a lot of times you don't work out and he says, if you have a problem inside or outside the family, go to this man and he'll fix you don't take care of it. Really. Maybe it does at times but. It depends. This isn't. You join. Our Club now don't worry you're taking care of the radio like. But I. I also find it interesting because they're saying, may I burn and health I betray my friends not necessarily may burn in Hell. The fact that the stuff that they're doing killing people if they have to and. You know Providence. Contradiction. It's all a big country and it's a lot of bullshit. So Christopher sees the Raven out the window he gets spooked. Thinks it's bad mocked? That's really it's a moment that he's he's been waiting for for a long time. He's very excited about it. It really me. It really means a lot to him and yet now this bird has got him really stuffing votes about becoming and if we. As we see down the line. Season six or so eugene does become. Yeah Yeah he does a little footnote. They're my friends. Okay we're in. Suva which really this is the studio. This was music I. See you baby shaking that ass groove armada with grandma funk. You had a Gramma funk didn't you? Thought, you had a grim. Grandma to farmers. To folks. You know I remember that day. It was a lot of fun that was one of the nights that you talked about We shot at night. At Silva. We all the email together and we're all there. I did Tony Lip Lewis Line a bunch of times and he was laughing asked Halston we were laughing and distributors and. kind of was like a little party. Was a fun guy to be. A great sense of humor and a great attitude and. A pleasure to work with and I think he blowing the line and we were all the ball laughing and he kept going with the. Funny Chris tells poorly my still pounded. Now this moment like you just said for Wiseguy, you just got called up to the major leagues. That's the analogy I'm GonNa give you a minor leager just got called up to the Yankees right. There's a Lotta perks and there's a lot of responsibility. But big moment and Christopher's life in that world. This is a big deal. Yeah. So what are the perks? The perks are nobody can mess with you? Unless you know you know it's a big deal. To have permission to if there's a altercation if. You know it's your pretend. You're you. You need they can't kill you need to get the okay. From the boss is all kinds of stuff you know you can't be you know. You see the guy later on, we'll talk about it and he says he's got a stripe. So everyone in the neighborhood knows you walk tall? Christopher walks trolling the neighborhood. And the The cons are you got he is in the scene Paul. He says, I'm giving you the sports book. You'RE GONNA make, money Christopher's excite he goes, but you gotta give me six thousand every week. Could be alarmed money that could be A. Hundred grand a year. So he's gotTa give them. What do you think out of that six grant? How much Paulie keeping? How much does he kicked up the Tony? I don't take anything from the six I, think he gives them the ten points. He gives Tony to ten points. Maybe give started ten points or half of the ten points to sixers for Paulie. But Paul he's got a kick up. Sixty two sportsbook I dig that's his the ten points goes to Tony. Think maybe. Ten ten percent. At six grand, Tony gets six hundred. Ten points of the book. Like said, maybe I'm wrong. I. Think that six grand is police. I don't know I. Think it ought. It sets a pyramid thing he gets kicked up the Pauli Pauli captain so he might have a several guys. Given. Him weeklies on different things different. Avenues of income and on each one, it goes up to Tony. Right. All I know is that there's a lot of money. If Paul these making three, hundred grand I don't think. This Denver I think it might give four of that Tony. Maybe right and then he says. You know he says you know it could be a lot little depending on how you grow the book. So there's a lot of pressure but Christopher's about that right now he's just happy that he's made skorts book had been doing. Well, that's all he cares about it. Then, you got to Tony Strips any comes over he talks to combine com is be a better friend to yourself. He knows about. dispels he calls them the panic attacks sees it was an epileptic. says. And then Tony says. Old So how do you know about that? But everybody knows everyone knows that he goes to see a psychiatrist while a bit of power move it's as low. Sigmar no stigma knows thing Mata well, and his son little carmine will become the master the Malapropism when we meet him later but. I think it's so. carmine. Is One of the New York bosses he's. Boss Yeah he's one of the bosses five family. He's a big big big shot. This is a power move saying. I'm way more powerful than you are Tony Soprano I'm New York boss Your Jersey. It's a little bit of leverage. He's he's laying out here. I know that you you have mental illness he saying it's okay but it's also listen that that can be used. That can be used against you if we had down later on down the line now Tony Lip people I know he started out he was a captain maitre d' at the the Copacabana famous nightclub and then got attacked. He was in the Pope of Greenwich Village the Book Green Book the Moving Green Book the great movie. Is About Tony Lips Vigo Mortenson Place Tony Lately Tony was also in Goodfellas in the scene with me. I met him. He was at the car table in I. Don't know if he's in both of those scenes but at least one of them, he's not the Car Davis Donnie BRASCO together small role in the Godfather and. Green Book is a great movie if you haven't seen it where two soprano house in the middle of the daytime Janice Drinking Tallboy Colt forty five, the middle of the afternoon she's got a buffet of junk snacks and snacks. We see Tony Eating that later on. She's watching a TV show about. Aj Benza used to write for the Daily News would manage a good man about Jayne Mansfield. Whose Jane Mansfield was the mother of Mahogany yeah and I eat it would go on to be a judge on law and order. Svu. So little bit of now is that planned in advance? Now let's not playing our the name assure she's watching was mysteries and scandals and. Was Fame. Bitch. Fame. Bitch, it was a good show, Aj best I read his biography actually and I liked him a lot. In Brooklyn I believe he said. Yes. He's he's a writer and actor also. Did you ever think fame bitch to you? You Got Derek Like this. Like a lot of things in life, there's this big upside and big positives and there's negatives you know I I find most things in life. Have you know a double edge to them? Like. Being made for Christopher like this big perks and his big you know there's big advantages and with that comes responsibility responsibilities in certain negatives and and difficulties in you know. Like we have here for what you wish for a lot of times. Tony got a call from her fiance genesis. Fiance drew that kid nine, thousand, nine, hundred. Nineteen and he could go. She tells him. He says, when are you going to leave time to leave get out of the house? She's awfully comfortable very comfortable I said, what time could it be noon one o'clock in the afternoon she's watching a repeat of mystery scandals where the Colt forty five toll boy, which means she went out and bought that because they didn't have that in the fridge obviously no no one in that house drinks that except for her. Lana is moving out but don't forget she already wanted and she tells for yet ago she she gotta go now and Yes he warned her now his Christopher arriving first time. We see Benny Fazio, who is Mexican some of is going to be outguessed in a few weeks. The Great Mexican he's in a jogging suit. Chris. The far pizzeria, which is actually the Ralph Piccolo Pizzeria famous Pizza Parlor in Paterson on Union Avenue. The Real Ralph Piccolo passed away two years ago but the pizzeria still there I I'm pretty as very recently was still there and great pie great pie. Yeah. Extremely good. One of. Christopher's dressed like a made guy suit and tie he comes in and now. It's called the which is why like an Italian slang far who fought means like? Oh Oh. Five, this. Whole, he will go away. David David Name Nut. I like the name it's like being. Very. Very odd though you know Max Casella was the original. Tea. Mon in the Broadway Lion King. I did not know that. Yeah but I know he does a lot of stuff max I mean Broadway. He was Broadway's visited numerous woody Allen movie. Mrs Meisel, he's on that now Mrs Mazel. doogie, Howser Houser newsies. He's still alive while he was in a great film by Timber Johnny Depp. Ed Wood. Marlon plays Bela Lugosi. It's. Kind of an underrated movie I love. That movie and Mike Star. Likes to. Scroll he's in that. Yeah. Veto. We also have Steve. Grillo. Steve Grill all that's the guy on the way out of this, which we'll talk about the second. So so Christopher comes in Jackie and Deano Deano was played by Andy Davoli. He's been in a whole bunch of stuff he's sitting there. Jackie Junior. Colds Christopher. He says if it wasn't for Tony Soprano, he's zero which shoes. That's pretty harsh while he's jealous and he's very arrogant is fucking kids. He's Aryan but Christopher's really he's Lording it that he's a made guy. Now he's wearing A. Fraud as peacock, he's feel the pizza owners play as played by Kevin. Janna. Sally, who was a crew member of the soprano he was electric and he's very good. He's very. He's very good. He says get them a large old blue eyes on the house where these that is. I don't know what the ingredients are. The song playing is rock and roll by led Zeppelin, which apparently is the first time led Zeppelin allowed one of their songs to be licensed for television already. Yeah. That's interesting So you know. tacky junior comes over reluctantly gives. Christopher. Congratulations Dino does progressive waits for it. He standing there he doesn't say anything he's just waiting. He knows he's that's what you gotta do it. Everyone in the neighborhood knows that Christopher's a made guy. Now Christopher walks tall like I said in the neighbor this is what it's all about you get to respect. Right so he doesn't like dino wants to butter up to him buddy up to him a little bit. He tells him about this they get a St Rob, the coffee shop. Jackie junior saying that's how thing Jackie junior is in so far overs fucking head Scott an attitude he's four rich kid. The kid bumps on the way out by mistake. That's Steve Grillo. Grillo work for Howard. Stern. He was also a standing. He was Robert Isla stand it. He now has a podcast also called aftershock Steve. Young. Terrific Guy, he's been he's been around a long time in a good good man and Kevin Jenner cell. He does a good job and Christopher he says this. I don't want to be an asshole. But I can't be seen in places like this. I. I've heard Michael say that. Michael you said it. I've also said, don't disrespect the pizza parlor. That's a good one like you said later on donors disrespect the bank. Disrespect the being but you said I've heard you. Places where where did I say I don't WanNa be an Asshole, but I can't could come to places like this anymore which specifically where did I say that to shock ball screen rounds Well we all get into fights when we were very drunk it about three in the morning, a guy got in your face. But. Every time we went covered anymore. Every time we went there was always some weird weirdness and like some bullshit, what's you're going to have to use some of your taekwondo shit you never know. Mill Fees Office. This has gotta start showing some results he tells. The patients. Go, fast enough money and you. Enough. Yeah. He's like what's the story where we at I guess you know? In some ways very legitimate. I've been coming now he's a couple of years now I guess, right? What's going on over time I going to be you know it's like Listen you go to a doctor for a problem you expect to be better. That's why you're paying the doctor. And she says it's a three prong approach. It's. This is a great line he she says I'm the syndrome and he goes Oh, so it's you're it's It's like Africa casting. Bad or good. I don't even I mean his brain you know. He tells her about Noah and meadow tells you all about that thing that they Bench and she puts together a about the connection the gobble goal. which is like A. 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Right. Back So Christopher win the back room the sports operation he's betting on the USC Game He has Warren His right hand man there Warren do pre. Brian Anthony Wilson Who's playing Warren you know they meant get Tony said fifty large. So somebody wants to place a fifty thousand dollar bet on this game. And just to give some some context bookies when there's really large bets, what they'll do is They'll kind of break it up and give some of that bet to another bookie. So they're not. So in case the lose their not taken that hit the. Divided and but but often. bookies will not do that. If they feel lucky I, feel like you know the odds are with them or they feel. Confident and Christopher makes that mistake here. That's also if Some bookies don't gamble. You know they just they'll take the vague each way and and you know they'll make you know right they perform out some of the bats. Somebody else that needs USC or the other way. So you know if they have a lot of outs, a lot of different bookmakers across Asia the city or the country. They'll get off you know Kristie the game up man he's yelling at the bookies lost the fucked up Chris. And he's crystal. Is. We go to the Soprano House. Cuts right to the meat from their. Coach. Ray to Tony's grilling in the backyard with. Ralphie. Christopher. Frost is on the Pumpkin. I added a boss when I worked at the wedding place Alexan- Henry's guy named. Nat Racine who used to run own the place used to say. When the frost is on the Pumpkin it's time for dickey Dunkin. That was one of his. His famous quote. What do you think dickey Dunkin's to ship. All right. Because, one of his famous quotes. When the frost is off the Pumpkin when I is on the pump on the Pumpkin. So when it gets cold, it's time for Dickie. Duck at time to get under the covers. Remember that for. Write that down. The words of wisdom. Live by NAT racine from Alexander. LA's they go. So Tony's grilling be. Say J. F. Jackie Junior showed up yet. Christopher tells Tony. KRISTOF is going there. You know he's going to see the boss and make sure everything's Okay a little setback will be okay Tony. He didn't lay off the bet and he lost all that money. Tony, sister Chris Chris Mentioned Jackie Junior and Dino at the Ufa Pizza and Tony says, why is he? What's Jackie doing hanging out with that? Tadao. Motor Delegates Cody Cook a lot of meat reference. Derogatory ageist. Stupid. The Soprano House the group sits out to dinner. Now. We is the first time we're establishing rosalie appeal. The widow of Jackie is now with Ralphie together. 'cause we just saw this is only the. Second time we see Rafi we see. Ralph. Time right your kids ladies being rude. You set him straight. She's at a neighbor. She babies as she enables. She's wanted by this. You know I do no wrong. He's very rude route to Tony at Livy funeral. He's a rude arrogant, very entitled I'm sure He. His father left money. So they have money that's not a problem and Rafi she's dating is mother Rosalie makes excuses for Jackie. Journey just lost his father. He says, I lost my father at six. And, the GT says to the table. that. Feet dropped out of the eleventh grade to take to raise his brothers and sisters and. Berry. Camilla's mother says you would never know. which is such a good line. I can't even say how specific and right on that is how much that says about Mary as a character her beaten all the way she's trying to keep the peace and I don't know. It's just it's just she's crazy now like Livia crazy crazy hugh is putting on his glasses to stare at a fork either he's looking at it as reflection in the fork or you're seeing if it's clean what he say what they say he doesn't know what's going on. As I'm Satan to this kid yeah now. We're GONNA get a little esoteric. Satan. The next season, there's that episode I think it's Ralphie's last episode where he starts inadvertently saying lyrics from sympathy for the devil. Not. On purpose I'm Anita some restraint you know start saying he starts saying it as if he's conversing so we're setting up that Ritchie. That Ralphie Sorretto is the devil. Okay all right it. Chip Hereto. I think is how you really pronounced shofar I mean Crypto Code. So maybe it's a code. This simply there was a code that he is the devil he's Satan incarnate. A by the I'll buy that one I is rude to Adriana. She's asking how the cheerleaders any hobbies and he we don't have cheerleaders. He's very Ruta. Tried to be nice to make small talk camello comes out what Mario Batali Stream Beechwood Parmesan and she is so proud. that. She has MAREO batallions recipe for string beads with Parmesan, Barrio Batali the famous chef who? Got Himself in a little trouble he was a college roommate. He's he jim and Jim and Mary roommates married chase a restaurant by. A friend of mine I'm. Looking. For them in touch with him Mario Batali string beans are red onions, string beans, mint red pepper, and olive oil sauteed in a Pan for about twenty minutes and then Parmesan cheese on. She's so proud that she has this recipe you. Now she she's on the inside barrier had a TV show on the food, network for you I was on his show. On. The cooking show. Cooking on the cooking with Barrio can't tone. The. Two of US together you'LL MARIO CANTONA AMERICANS and. So metal rings the phone. Waiting for Jackie Junior show. As a very odd kid. He's an odd duck. He's had a we had aged fifteen fourteen fifty. He's an odd duck and he does anyone he doesn't like everyone's there Sunday, dinner and Italian household growing up every Sunday was like Thanksgiving to me cousin aunts and. Cousins and it was wonderful. I. Mean. You know there's a lot less and less than that. People are busy different lifestyle. Now I'm sure some people still do it but you know it was a wonderful time. He doesn't like it. Everyone's there. Jackie. Junior colts, meadow calls he started to meddle. Janke junior rings in he's Very Rude Roget's on the phone. You know. Metal doesn't want talk to a father. It's very strange. There's a lot of tension in the family AJ's age as really kind of. He's depressed. He doesn't know everything about his family. It seems right now is depressing him. Yeah. I mean, this is listening to us. Grandparents they're he's got. Cold. Saran role even though it's not a I. Think it's a little hard for him that his sister's going to because yeah. She was kind of a buffer between him in the parents and now he doesn't have that and I think that's a lot. He doesn't want to talk to the parents just want to talk to adults. Now we see that in in coming pork, store Paulie is sleeping. Was that built I? Know we use sometimes actual back room at the pork store was that Oh that wasn't built on Civic Cup right I was always in that location kearns. Back there the back of the bottom being. was and I remember taking a nap on that car. That was a very comfortable car I have to say and now they. All Poli. You GotTa notice this quickly you watch all the when he gets up. When he says Paulie and you turn and Chris returns a light on the wings are. A little out there like Bozo little bit a little bit. Then we're Christopher walks over. There's another caught the wings are back to normal but he was sleeping on the wings. They're a little messy. Sleeping on the wings going to be his biography. But Tony. Sleeping on the wings A police says, this is unacceptable. Christmas come on four thousand dollars. I'm giving you unacceptable. I'm GONNA give you a couple more days. You're be an extra to grant extra to it's not this is not a school Christopher's like it's me we're talking about you know I'm good for it. Not doesn't WanNa hear and he's nipping in the bud right now he's letting them now that this is not gonNa work and. And Matte Stat don't give me to Moloch Evil why you're the one with the show of bags short bag and there's no excuse. Now. At the at the Soprano Dinner When Room Complaints Carmella talks to me, she says, I'm going to talk to Tony, have a heart to heart with Jackie Junior, and here it is at the Trivia restaurant Army comes out. Giant v Out A gesture of diving you notice out now they're out into the world. He's great. We their home life too comfortable for them. Furio is at the table. With Jackie, junior walks in being rude. Disrespectful sunglasses leather jacket he. says. FURIO GETS UP I don't know why it struck me. Funny. He goes I gotTa make two phone calls to. I gotTa make a couple of phone calls. I gotTa make a phone call I got to talk to it's he takes his food he goes He's. He's extremely extremely rude Jackie. A says you want something to eat Tony asked him. I. Said this was a lunch meeting. Lose the glasses take some off reluctantly I gotTa Tell You This kid is so respectful. Tony is way patient with this it's only because of his love for Jackie Senior I. think that's it. I. Think he feels he's gotTa. If it wasn't that he didn't have the relationship was respond these character Jackie senior he wouldn't no way. Would he deal with this and the Jerry Jerky June you know. Out of respect for my father, He Tony tells them I did not kill besides what you think. I did not kill your Uncle Richie. He says he says, I just want to let you know he was Iraq and Janki junior jumps up. Hey. Don't WanNA. Hear it no way and then he tells him everyone knows he's in the witness protection program and it seems Jackie Junior kind of to turn it Tony Soprano is a very good actor Oh, yes and no yes Jim. Really, I actually it's a very well acted mean really now things here any kind of you know. Makes him believe that that's the truth. and. He tells them I don't want to you. You can father didn't want this life. You wanted to be a doctor and I don't want to life for my son either. She makes that very high school field AJ guess he's I. Guess. He's a freshman Ninth Grade High School Physics Regiment. He's nine. He's nineteen years old. My kids sitting in. Sitting on the bench. Long story short he comes out Tony, very excited AJ recovers a fumble. He's very, very excited. Happy. Tony Proud really props you know my daughter played softball both of my daughters athletes for my daughter. You know she played softball she was pitcher. She was all Brooklyn she was pretty good high school pitcher captain of team. I was so crazy. I couldn't watch it. I would get nervous four. At the empire. Crazy. So what I I made me nuts from when she was literally. Down in Battery Park City. So yelling at the. I would one of those guys no I didn't want become one but I. I did do it but I do I I started doing it y'all when she was really young and there was a fucking thing haven't fucking treatment at the guy said I can't do this. I can't become that guy I want your daughter. So I get a chair, you know Lounge Chair beat share whatever you call and I would sit in left field all the way out and I put my headset on. I just watched A. Did you ever coach? Did you coach? I never coached them I. Took My. Little. League when I was a coach years ago, best football coach for kids. And I make so crazy that I would have to even to high high-school just leave me alone. I would go out there put my headset I don't WanNa hear what people were saying. It was tough for me to watch. Very. Good. It was tough stuff. So Tony's they're very happy proud. He's in the stands he wants to taste it. WE'RE GONNA go to Stewart's get a cup hot dogs reward yourself. You got a nose for the ball. He's very encouraging. Anthony wants to can't we just go play ten though He doesn't want to be alone with his father and and and Tony Season. Real bonding. Moment we're going to celebrate we're going to have hotdogs and a AJ's just. Yeah he's. He's uncomfortable. I would totally says, then you throw it away and he says why like he has no idea why why he should be he should throw. We go to the bottom being back room. Calls I need you to come home I don't WanNa turn into one of those family he's standing at the counter so. Tony to come home. Yeah. It's the beginning you know. Once you've experienced that with the first kid goes off to college it's a big shift in the family. Is Very different and it's you know it's The routines are changed and things different and it's you know subtly you and your wife was staring each other. Now you've been raising the kids for years now it's like well, it's just me and you. Now it's time to have fun now what the fuck we can do. So we're at the soprano dining room community, AJ. Aj spills his milk. Very tense and it's awkward drinking. Milk. Drinking milk and Tony. Who normally sometimes we'd be annoyed is you know he's not I mean I think he's still happy about his son playing football. He recovered a fumble, which is, which is a big deal I mean the recover a fumble is a big. You know he was on he was on the bench, the first three quarters Tony's very proud. He says you need. Milk for your bones to be strong you know the one good thing about this whole pandemic and the only thing. Is One thing. You were home I know I was home with the family. I actually sat down and ate dinner with my daughter and my wife I mean we cooked and I spent. You know a much more time. I wife. Over six months. That's never happened since we've been married thirty one years that never happened. Yeah. That's. The one good thing families finally sat eight together spent more time together. You know the father wasn't working out working and. D. Probably. Get fucking but nevertheless. Less you know he's talking about going to college where do you WanNa go? He doesn't know and he's you know it's that age where do you don't want to tell you parents anything? You know what I mean you don't WanNa make them happy. You don't WanNa tell them anything. You know you know they're talking about west point he doesn't want to He. He just doesn't WANNA deal. Aj is very low self esteem he wants to TV on. We put on the TV wants to do anything but speak to his parents certainly about anything serious. You know he doesn't want to get days uncomfortable Libya's house shred ladder journalists make the bed. Janice, being will con man self the worry I'm sorry to a treated you at the cemetery. Janice just wants that wreckage watch. She's letting her stay and she's giving her some extra time to sweetener up social get to record collection, which may or may not be worth anything. You know everyone always says all these are worth money and then you go to really check it out and it's probably not in great condition they're probably sue knows you know what everybody thinks everything's yeah. What is it? What could it possibly be worked? This collect autographs people dig it's worth a fortune my autograph it's like. Cut, to be it's actually yeah. Mine's like a negative. Now it'll cost you to get rid of it It's very interesting what they do here when sweat, Lana. Takes off her leg. And what they did was they put a hole in the bed. So she puts her leg. In the hole so it looks like there's no legs. So when she's sitting there, you don't see that and it's really good effect. It's really I could swear she's only got one way. Yeah. It's very it's really good effect. They did a great job with that and then she got her leg with the Buddha on it she puts it up against the dresser. She's got the bottle of vodka stoli's bottomless stolen and she's a great character. Greek. Recount I John This is fully shaded trying to connor and. The typical Janet stuff Christopher's apartment. He's complaining about the Raven it was a bird that sucker. That's why I got bad look. He's really stressing the money. He doesn't know where he's going again he's gotta get it. He asked. Kind of her mother can you on his mother lend it? She said she's paint just paid off the hysterectomy. is also weird because Adriana has an issue with her reproductive system I believe to. I don't think Adriana was able to hourly at an issue wasn't able to have kids or something I don't know if she had to get a hysterectomy or something we have to. Find that fact out, but there was something similar. Or something that had to do with that. You know her her ovaries ovarian system. You Know Pauli, Pauli keep saw beat Christopher these over his head. Christopher's fucking miserable. This is not what he signed up for and all he saying it was bad luck. She saying it's only if it comes into the house, the bird it was outside the when there it's not bad lot bird in the house. Look. I've never heard that, but I've heard that. Yeah. He throws the she wants to tennis bracelet. He wants to hock or sell it. She says discovered of yet range rover he throws down on the bed she's very patient also. He sorry. He's losing it. It's a lot of pressure and it's not what he thought. It was going to be. On a wakes up and realizes her her legs miss. It's a great. It's a it's an incredible scene. She's hopping down the hallway. How do that? I'm now that's either either they literally tied it up and how to or they may have CGI. Among shopping. I should ask Henry broad team I, mean she's hopping hallway. It's absolutely hilarious I. Mean it's not hilarious that she has one leg just. Oh that jazz would go to those like that's how we're like the the one thing you you would never do as a human being right the one thing you can't do to somebody she does she picks the leg she's knocking on genesis door she's cursing Russian it is really funny hopping down the hallway is one of the funniest we're talking maybe for six hundred dollars probably not even that much. Oh Yeah for the record collection. Yeah. She's this she's evil. She's Tony Soprano with a WIG. -obably worse worse. Tony Soprano has some good. Moments. Tony has to do stuff for other people and she doesn't basically. Johnny Spanish plays the junkie in this scene desperate junkie that Christopher is giving him dollar bills IOS. Christopher three hundred or something minutes how you see the Range Rover Dead Center. We're at liberty back Libya's house. Schmidt law the answers, the door with a cigarette dangling out of her mouth is She's a little loaded. I think. She. Totally walks in he sees Irena there. and Irene looks like either she's drunk or she is a little bit. Like, playing it like she's Not Right, in the head, you know she sees Tony She's getting married but she sees Tony and she's still in love with it's very tense and he doesn't want He doesn't want to deal with it and Had Not explains that I read on what he's doing what she's doing. She brought the old Lang over. For Blah Rushing leg she lost weight. So it doesn't fit anymore the late she had was twenty thousand dollars and Kenneth Cole who? Wore the at had what what did she say? Something Flex Foot superfly. In detail why this? Why this leg was so expensive. Great Line here. she's going on and on about the booth in the thing and and he says. Let's stick to the subject. Of cousins missing a leg. He tells Irena. Let's stop all the bullshit about you getting married. Let's stick to the subject cousins missing Elaine. Janez for delay. He says. Anything, then he goes to the refrigerator. Cold cuts. Opens up the Gaba Goule. Flashback. I he smells it because he's not sure if they're keeping up on fresh long been. A long it's been now and we go. He goes into a flashback to He's eleven years old. He's with Johnny Soprano his father and they go to and this explains how the family got hold house. Really such was a bad gambler who owed money to Johnny Soprano and junior soprano. We see it here and they see you know they cut off his pinky. Cleaver which foreshadows the movie. Christopher's movie cleaver. This is kind of A. Foreshadowing of that because you're a younger Virginia, slapping him around to around play by That's a raucous. and Joe, Slovo who plays WHO's very honest sopranos a great job. tastic. Really fantastic job. This is the origin how such realities got into the soprano family I guess eventually. Later on, he owed even more money and he couldn't pay it off and they took over the pork store. Now I know you know the thing is he says, I'm giving you thirty dollars. We can meet you know Gaba goal and a standing. Rib Roast the reverse with the bone in. Giving it thirty dollars a week. So I don't know the he does that much money. He saying I got venables. We three hundred. Fifty thousand dollars here I maybe he does but it's enough. To let it slide. You know he said come to me give plan. He doesn't wanna be bullshitted Johnny Soprano is very ruthless. Seems like a nice guy he's a ruthless Scott. No Fees Office Tony says what he's explaining to Melfi white you're father never cut off a guy's finger. picky. You father never forgave picky and she said that's traumatic. Anyone much less eleven year old. He says, if you WanNa know the truth that was rush. while. I miss. You know. Then he then is Livia and there's a lot of sexual tension between them and You know she's excited by the meat and she's looking meat juices of the meat and there he's grabbing her ass. So this kid this eleven year old with violence and sex and his parents it's all. Messed him up quite a bit and his father as we learned before his father was prone to anxiety attacks and passing out, and there's you know there's mental issues there in the family and certainly now they're connected to violence and you know extreme violence in this case Le`veon's turned on. You know Johnny is singing and dancing with he singing all of me Janice a young Janice looks very disgusted. Johnny boy grabs. Libya's ASS. Let's get it. Wash it while it's let's Obser- meet he says. She says, let's while it's still hot. I Tony. Faints she cuts to me. Young Barber. Wants it in. To good scene. It's a really good sense shifts shot beautifully. And then going back to Melfi. She compares his relationship to to meet whatever with Proust's Meta lanes right which is like he takes a bite of this cookie and it reminds him of. His childhood. and. Writes his book about it, which is funny because you're talking about a very kind of a very revered kind of classical literary. IDEA. With. Remembrance of things past and and produced, and then in the soprano version, it's Kabul. Yeah. Exactly and for the funny. Fun having the making that comparison is very You know headed swimming. She. She's happy Melfi just as we're making real progress here she thinks it's a real breakthrough in our. Tony doesn't really WANNA talk about it. It just got to be kind of painful. In. To be honest soprano living Tony Jada watching football a bonding moment. agee's tiny tow- has watched a game keep your eye on the ball. The tailback, he's so defensive moves Hermel comes in she's GonNa Bring. Metal Brosio. Well in a when when they had the Sunday dinner meadow called in metal look like she missed being there. Yeah Yeah. She She, she really wants to talk to Tony but. She's angry. Really bad. Thank you now and now. You know so he Keep designed the ball they're eating snacks same leftover giant satis snack. He's explaining to the Defense Aj she's bringing. Some workout stuff helmet for the bike riding and so show Tony says, I'll get my shoes. Let's go. You know Aj of course wants to get out of hanging out with his father watching TV and I guess and wants to see his sister too and he says I like this I want to go to the city. And and Coppola explains why she doesn't think it's a good idea and Tony, take shit. Tony's like fuck it. In I gotta go but he saying I pay fabric. Leaves it all out you wanted to move back home? You want to go to a state school. Of course, that's it's got to go to that. That's that's what's going to happen. She's GonNa flunk and she's GonNa move home and go to state school, and if Tony goes there, it's like guys who've afraid to. Tell the daughters. No could still wind the PRESCRIP-. Right. Chris Rock did a bit like that. Say, no, you don't think she's GonNa wind up on the Strip in. That's the chain of events set is going to happen. You can't go out tonight our. What do you? Can I stay to one now? Oh, my God she's going to turn into a restrict. Let's get a maker rebel even more. Junior Sau Studio Bob, watching, Football Nice scene here. So for for Tony's watching the football game and it goes to the being. TV The bottom being. All the people at the being watching the game or the game, and it goes from TV. To Junior House watching the TV bobby junior or watching the game bobbies having a great hero sandwiches I remember it was booed. It's funny how a Member that's back it was. A. Roasted peppers and mustard. That's it. I can't remember my fucking middle name, but I remember that say it was brewed roasted peppers. It's olive oil whatever beautiful talion bread, CRUMB Christie Italian bread I them. If he wants any Santa Barbara. Olives and he says wanted to leave me the fuck alone and is he saying that because he's losing his his baton? fucking combined. Everything combined Christopher's sports operation. Go for the touchdown sweating the game up. Columbia dorm. Actually behind meadow said, there's a poster is a band called Scout. And in the episode. Season four believe Telltale Matzah which is one of the ones that I wrote. Scout is the band at the crazy horse the name of the band in the in the show was the Miami relatives but it's really this band scout and scout was the main person and scowls Ashen Keelan PUT, out a really good record. Several especially, then it seemed like a good idea at the time they did a cover, the replacements song unsatisfied, which was tremendous cover I got to see them live once Very, good ban. ashes Keelan really good music. Now, why do you think they were on the wall and? They were Fr- I. Think there was a connection between art department maybe and the band like someone new them Chris Collins. Chris Constant Work Art Department but he was He knew the office production the office, but he knew people in the indie music scene I think. Came through them and also Aj's wearing a slipknot. Switzer. Slipknot, which is heavy metal. I don't know what the. Think Robert at the time Robert I actually liked slipknot he still does. Camella and a JD arrive. Barrows dorm room she's on the bed. No is there. That didn't come. I. Don't know did metal really want to see that she wanNA father to call them and I don't know what he did. Tell her what he Tony said yes. Noah told Toll Meadow what Tony? Racist remarks that he called them racist names. Noah says he's GonNa. Punch. Tony's lights out. It's a good thing he didn't come. That's a good thing. He didn't come and take it fucking easy Nagin easy. But again easy. You know e Carmel is trying to make excuses. You don't understand your father comes from a different time and place, and she's like what? New Jersey, the third millennium she's she's not making an excuse now and she says, look look what you've got yourself into. She tells Komo you know. Look what you got yourself into you know. She. She did tell Noah. Noah, what did tell her? Melodist that know exactly she doesn't know exactly what Tony said. She knows it wasn't good but she's asleep. Filming. The thing that annoyed a be. Very disrespectful. And know what she said. No I WANNA talk to my daughter. He up. Well, it's not Kerr House I mean, if she said that at the Soprano House that would be really disrespectful but he's like. I'd be saying little disrespectful a lot disrespectful. He says go if she tells me to go. Way Out of line here. Tony did was thousand percent role. Metadata, light treat and I don't know about that. I don't know if I agree with you there. Really. No I think she say she's taking it out on her mother. Her mother came to bring her because her mother's not. You know because peace peace has not been made over what happened. Something happened. That was really bad. The father didn't say anything and she's you know the mother hasn't taken meadow side and. She says your father is a racist at home. Now father was wrong. He's thinking you know basically you know not make excuses for him. Okay. I got you there. But it's a fine line. It's a fine line I. got you finally does and they ever talk and and the mental there's going to go to the trio Connecticut this weekend friends of those parents they work for. NBC. Like. Getting John. What are they doing, BC? Yeah. BIGSHOTS WHO GIVES A I, that's impressive to her. Age as outside and the whole thing is a too weird for him like it. You know it's it's Columbia kids are little little artie intellectual. It's not his not what he's used to. It's funny. The kids that he sees on the on sitting on the grass. They have to Mario Puzo books. which is odd. They have the force K and the fortunate pilgrim to of Mariposas books, and then the other book is a book about Black Theater. So. which is what we were just dealing within the room. Right? You have an African American and you have mobster and the two things kind of. I don't know if that was I mean obviously was deliberately marrying Zo although these kids are like you know intellectual college kids at Columbia it's. Just a very cheap deliberate straight. But he's listen he has been outside of Jersey much. Aj. So I mean that touch about. The Art Direction of having those books too. But it's all clean and white AJ lives and you know he's Mama's boy and now he's saying I'm GONNA be in a couple of years. I'm going to be here. It could be very intimidating for anybody. Yeah and Columbia's very specific. You know the college place it's New York City and it's it's Ivy League and it's very very liberal and it's not it's not. Yeah it's not the world that he's from now that's for sure absolutely not Libya's house bill comes down you should be ashamed of yourself. And bills very specific. You know I thought bill was going to be like some guy like a a Russian immigrant kind of similar to her he's he's not at all. He's kind of this average you know. It's it's interesting casting. I don't know who he is what? I want to know more about this bill I have to say. It. I don't know he's very Yousef he's divorced. She's She's going to move in with him next week or whatever they GONNA go. The kids aren't GonNa be there anymore. It's funny. Janice says he she says, where's my leg genesis? Of course denying that I denying she's just evil. Evil you think that. You know. Sri Lanka wants the leg back Janice wants to work. She's pure evil. She's a con artist she's devious. And she says, if you see some comic connection between the records in the Air It's of your League Qua-. Wow? Don't forget also spend longer told Tony. that. She gave her three housing. How seems very pronounce it? Pills in her sprite. Same thing. They're given Janice case. Fed. Lana pill at night. So when delay same thing she did what she gave Libya. She gave literally nembutal. That's. Chiro. No To jazz. Plays. Dumb On. Discount will be sorry she ever fucked with me. We shall see. All right. So we'll get the pizza place Christopher goes back to. Just up to seventy, he beats with Jackie Joan get him Abani fuzzier. Right, and they're talking about the rutgers rutgers James and. Mara Batallio Amata and talking about robbing the coffee shop. He says well, this jewel and an Amnesty International Concert Little Steven did a lot of Amnesty International, concerts. On the jukebox is Van halen eight talking about love and David Lee Roth from Van Halen was. On the Sopranos Little Little tidbits there and Christopher needs money. He's desperate and he's willing to you know he's willing to do whatever. So this sounds like a good idea to get some quick cash. Soprano House Tony Come in Asia. Eating. The headed off to college soon yourself he descends I don't want to go. Of course, you do Tony Income look at each other. there's a bunch of freaks college. He didn't like what he saw, Columbia And he gets up and storms out before they can have this conversation and he says there's so many people that are all smarter me. Yeah. Like you said Love Sosa. Data. Rookies School Concert Christopher bidding and Richie arrive. His dress like a college kid his version of God's Kid. College kids they have the screen masks. Scream, Perez Hilton is in the bars. show he's a big wad gossip columnist. Blogger columnist media personality he page six, six, six that was his dot com Perez. Hilton. Dot Com only paid six, six, six, Dot com went to nyu graduate at Tisch. School there and why you? He's very funny telling him. Do you guys realize this is? You know for charity and they don't give a shit, they're taking you know. Most of the kids play with their student cards. So I don't know how much not that much money it is enough for him to make up his debt. Christopher tells Jackie Julia you know don't. Do not whatever you do. You know move from this spot to come out Jackie big tough guy arrogant. pisses his pants he scan. So scary moment he is shot here's a gunshot they come running out. He's the getaway man. Yeah. We. Go to police car. He gives a Paulie the money. Police says, you gotta hit a Tanning Salon give that shit arrest a man needs his seven hours. So he's really Christie's got to stop doing coke. He wasn't doing cokie was you know what he eats knows like he was so Tony Rico. He wanted to tanning booths. Yeah. He go. You would go tony you're would you get that paradise? The Paradise Tanning Salon that was his big Joe. Did you go somewhere in paradise? The Paradise. Tanning. He always. Always. Always. took. The, back in the MODELL's parking lot. I assume. Up. Restaurant. Poorly comes it gives Tony, the envelope and mentions that Chrissy and Jackie Junior. Knocked off. The concert got money only don't like that all these piss he told him to stay away from Jackie. He's calling Christopher Christopher is just disgusted with the whole thing he's under the covers he wants to fuck in high to disappear. And Tony Drinking. The fall high school football coach really pump it up Aj. What a great job he's done. He sat on the bench for three quarters. He didn't lose focus came in he recovered the fumble he's being named defensive. Captain of the team. Jay. And this is the thing going just going back a second to the Christopher given the money getting calls. There is that pressure right to you gotta you gotta you gotTa kick up a certain amount of money every week at least or Monta whatever right at. The deal. Absolutely yeah. When your associate, it's more like whatever you're doing you. Do you give you know you get you get cut in on a deal you give some money. But when you're when you're part, you're made guy, there's a strict. There's a friend of mine got evolve a open a restaurant and he got involved with Wise Guy who I guess gave him money. to be a partner and that guy wanted his money whether the restaurant made money or not. So he had to give extra amount of week x amount of months whether the restaurant was making money. So if you lose it ten. Restaurants you gotta give this guy into the four. Now you're losing fourteen that's where you go on that. You can't do it it just hell or high water gotTa make you go into business with them. No good is gonNA come Goodfellas they touch on. Your show that and Davis Katina own. We saw the bus down at the sewed, but I was very real. So at the end. Aj passes out at this. Now, what do you think he is getting this praise Responsibility I. You know I mean we're making the connection between him and his father and Johnny with anxiety attacks. I guess it's a little too much. Does he WANNA play football doesn't even seem like he's really enjoying playing football. It's weird like he feels like he has to is. Should no, he was the one that when he saw his friend in the last episode. So he saw the Nice Jersey and his friend he was the one that went out for the team. Donated push him. So what do you think about? The passing out. Pressure, pressure the responsibility yeah. I think because he has low self esteem and being put in that position, a position of responsibility isn't seem like he can handle it or it's warranted. Actually Ask that asshole that you talk to every now and then S. We'll see the end credits. Where's the money by Dan, Hicks and his hot licks. Good episode great episode. All right now it is time for the Talking Sopranos Ask me anything segment the winner of m. a Ama question of the week is. Bruce. From Franklin. Wisconsin we will send bruce a pair of bose headphones. Bruce Hi Stephen Michael as seventy one year old baby boomers. I've always been interested in the history and evolution of TV from black and white sets with manual control to color to cable, and now streaming the progression has been remarkable for a ten year period the sopranos defined. Quality. Television. My question is twofold I what is your view on how the series altered the landscape of TV. and. Secondly, what if let's do you think the series had on your contemporaries and future artists who would gravitate towards TV rather than shows? Good question. WanNa take the first part of the second part. Hugo well. All right. Let's go to the second part I. What influence did it have on our contemporaries and future artists who would gravitate well Before the Sopranos, there was a very big divide between TV actors and film actors, and it wasn't always easy to navigate to be a star and both You know if you're a working actor, you could go back and forth. Guest. Spots and stuff like that. and. Movies. But there was a little bit of a stigma. You know like film actors were were You know a higher echelon and TV actors. Changed all that. Now if you look at TV the biggest stars in the world to do t al Pacino, even did Amazon TV series. So it's not there's that whole divide. On and actually it's become a lot of. T you know a lot of stuff is better. A lot of the TV's better than most movies I mean when I told you this story at that party at the Chateau March after the Golden. Globes in that film actor said I don't watch TV and I said well, you should because it's as good as anything that you do. Yeah. You know it was that attitude. Reveal that fucks name right now. I. Don't like doing that okay but That was kind of the thing you know they look down a little bit in that. That's gone. It's it's almost actually the opposite. Now it's almost like film has become more of A. Kind of less quality and then you know actually TV has more consistent. Overall quality stuff's in filmed us. Well, I mean there's that for sure but they also is. This an enormous amount of money to be made on TV especially if it's a hit show, so you could stay in one place as opposed to bouncing from movie. If you have a family going from film to film the film, you're gone four months, five months, six months the other side of the world, the other side of the country and you're away from your family. You got kids you pull them out of school is up all of that. Okay. You do a TV show you're in one city whether it be La New York. Wherever. You can make four, five, six, seven, hundred, thousand in episode a million even. especially. If he'd show some big stars on point. Someone the show is a he gets into. Kid. Syndication. You're talking many millions of dollars like. Just, friends is only one friends and Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David and even the modern family that whole gang I think they were making well of a a million dollars each episode, each cast but a lot of money you're doing twenty two episodes ten, million, a year residuals, etc, etc so. This certainly that financial reasons plus artistically. Sopranos Changed Things I think by bringing. You, know instead of an episodic type thing you know that people use to on TV this was like more long form storytelling storylines that would develop over the course of a season and the whole show like it was much more. And certain qualities that normally you'd see in film especially like in the gangster genre. Finally seeing that in the comfort of your own home on TV's TV series that was very new I, think and a and a and a lead character who was a killer. And Lee character did that didn't look like a lead character right that we knew of he was you know was it the first guy? There was also Jake and the Fatman? Tennis France Yeah. Blue you know he wasn't the first first guy but he became a huge star you sex symbol Jim, which he was most surprised guy in the world of that. But. You know they they use people that were real. Look at people. I was fat. You know a fat overweight they were people weren't hired by their looks. You know when you see a soap opera, it's all you know acting is at an act because they should article but a lot of network stuff to you know it's just good looking people you know. So you got a letter that I think the Sopranos. Sometimes, you can look at the Sopranos as an eighty six hour movie. Yeah I mean it has that kind of quality eighty, six hour movie and film making two shots. The way it's edited using music that stuff you did you didn't see a lot of that on TV and no. No Komodo commercials and I did that. So Bruce Thank you very much. We will be sending your bose headphones and. I was a good question. The question. All. Right. So thanks for listening. 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#EERS S9 Ep147: The GOP Takes the Stage

"Hello and welcome in his Eric Erickson here the Eric Erickson show all over the place. Let's actually go to the Republican convention floor live where Kimberly Guilfoil is still on the stage where you're filling your now. Well, let's see if we can get through all this stuff to to get this she she gave this impassioned speech and the speeches continuing on and I'm just impressed with where we are with the with the whole Kimberly guilfoil thing I don't know what that was folks. Kilfoyle Ladies and gentlemen. Still speaking just. freaking out of the house, it was incredible. The bill was just incredible towards the end of it. I don't know who she was yelling at. It was like she was the driver of Wendy's I like a Burger and free. I. Just I I don't understand the the guilfoil speech and I got yelled at by someone though you're you're so sexist. No trust me this I don't know what that was ladies and gentlemen but. The the speech was just who. Let's not. Let's let's. Let's move away from that one for. Paul and you have the ability to choose your life and determine your debts. Stunning. I mean, you expected an evil after that. Your destiny. I'd just it didn't work I'm sorry. I I. Don't know what was up with Kimberly Guilfoil. Last night. If there was a crowd, they probably would've worked but I I I don't know. Okay. Are on a serious note the Republican National Convention Day One. Here's the thing you need to understand about the Republican convention if you're a Democrat if you're a partisan of the left, if you hate Donald Trump, you were going to like this convention I. Don't understand why we've got to listen to the commentary of the left today complaining when last week it was like they were watching their favorite x rated movie I mean they were just all giggly and excited and heavy breathing and sweat watching the Democratic convention in this week is just battlefield rage. I couldn't care less what Republicans think about the Democratic convention I couldn't care less with. Democrats. The about the Republican convention what you're trying to find or the people in the middle there are A. Lot of people who don't like Donald Trump but are sympathetic to his policies and they're willing to vote for him. Consider just again, the data from yesterday from the Pew Survey that crying has risen to the top five issues in this country hadn't been in the top ten for the last number of years, and suddenly it's in the top five and the president whether you like it or not whether you like him or not. The President accomplished a lot of the goals he needed to accomplish last night in terms of his convention and he the way he spoke and interact with people, i. let me just read for you John Pot who is not a trump fan but is of the right. The first night of the Republican National Convention was all in all sensationally. And effective ways that the mainstream media in its twitter chatters clearly found it impossible to understand. America's opinion leaders Loathe Donald Trump so much that remains a great puzzlement to them how he can retain the support of even forty-two percent of the population rather than you know zero. The, implicit. Share is the deplorables theory that anyone who wants trump to be an remain president is at root a bad person or someone to easily tempted by false promises and evil allies. If they had ears to listen, they might be able to understand better after tonight the message of night one was two fold first. The case was that trump has done many things to help individual people in extras working to. Release Hostages Deregulating certain types of medical treatments, fighting entrenched interests and leading a strong economy until Cova came along to kill it to a variety laughed at the supposed- Awkwardness with which trump interacted with front-line covid workers hostages. But what they missed was trump's good cheer as he talked to them, these exchanges were actually less weird than the ones last week in which Joe, Biden Talk to party activists, over zoom. And second the case was that Democrats are supporters of urban chaos and socialist policies that will make American lives less safe and we'll help Immiserizati-. The American middle class nowhere was that clearer than the joint speech of the Saint Louis couple who were seen in a twitter clip standing in front of their home brandishing guns against the black lives matter March they pointed out the the people were undisturbed by the cops, which would they while they? Themselves found themselves under arrest their message. This could happen to you homeowners surely struck a chord with Americans. Who owned guns as protection stats tell us that forty three percent of Americans live in a gun owning household. That's a lot of people. Trump's hope for reelection is based on getting those people to turn out in greater numbers than they did in two thousand sixteen to Offset Democrat gains and the Democrat message that cops are bad and writers are good plays right into trump's hand. The Democrats also may have done. Trump a favor by spending four nights last week talking about America's supposed grave sins structural racism polluting the like speaker after speaker last night hammered them with tried and true Republican patriotism most effective with Tim Scott. The only black Republican in the Senate who speech concluded with these words growing up, he had to cross the street. If a white person was coming, he suffered the indignity of being forced out of school is a third grader to pick cotton and never learned to read or write yet. He lived to see his grandson become the first African American to be elected to both the United States House and Senate are family whip from cotton deep. In one lifetime and that's why I believe. The next American Century will be better than the last Nikki Haley Child of Indian immigrants elaborated. America's perfect. But the principles we hold our dear are perfect. The there's one thing I've learned is that even on our worst day we are blessed live in America, we seek a nation the prizes together not falls apart in Anneke and anarchy and anger if trump can turn the election around, it will be because these ideas resonate with the Americans. The media has lost the power to hear to whom they knew agreed A. Tip to speak one more point about both conventions necessities. The mother of invention in necessity may have done both political parties a service as with the case with the Democrats. Last week, the pandemic created need to substitute intimacy for scale broke the scorer mold in which the GOP's quadrennial gatherings have been frozen for decades speeches flowed quickly without interruption of a roaring crowd. The film material didn't seem like Filler as it did during conventional conclaves. Let me stop there. That's John Pot orbs right into watt in the New York Post and and he really is on point here. And one of the things the Republicans did That was missed by Democrats that enraged the twitter Ati is the president team played a video. Of all of the kind words that the Democrats said to Donald Trump during the pinnock. And that was effective. It was a reminder how two faced some of these people are. And it was a reminder that many of them said, mini kind things about the president during the pandemic win he was helping and that is is something that you can't. Under appreciate in this? The. President of the United States. Trotted out those voices let them breathe on their own. And it was a powerful moment. He was able to reset a lot of what people like about this administration. Even if they don't like the president, he reminded people of the things they had done I to play for you right now part of the video that the trump team aired last night. In in. From Washington DC, they aired it during the during the events of last night and the they're their their theme is a land of promises as voiced by the American people listen to part of this. Promises and I've kept every single one. This current administration had made possible. We, want this nation to continue to. Be The beacon of hope for the world how many people said they gonNA leave America Donald Trump was elected. They're all still here and they're not going anywhere because we are in the land of the free we will never hurt. Trade deals. America first. Again America First America great USMC. A. This a big win for the United States. America. This is a great great deal. We are going to lift the restrictions on the production of American. We will create millions of more Jones obsolete belief in a better tomorrow. Creating. Future for our children. But when I look in the ice of my grandchildren. I want them to know that their Papa was not silent. We will rescue kids from failing schools by helping their parents send them to a safe school of their choice. We will completely rebuild depleted. The countries that we are protected. At a mass, of course. We'll be asked to pay their fair share. J. Jaroslaw great patterns? Never been taking. Flaw is Tyson. He saved me. Thanks to him. I'm here. To me. He's giving people hope. What he's doing for the people what he's doing for. Everybody. We are going to avoid justices of the United States Supreme, court who will uphold. Our. Constitution. Supporting Lofoten is so important for keeping America. Long as I'm president. I will never defined your police that I promise you. It's time to deliver a victory for the American people we are like this start winning again. It's called promises. Promises. Now listen, you may not like Donald Trump, but this was an interesting juxtaposition from the way that the Democrats did it last week. Last week during the democratic. National. Convention. What the Democrats sought to do is to show Joe Biden is a likable personable person. And they showed numerous clips of Joe Biden interacting with people randomly Joe Biden apparently has the cell phone of everybody in America but he calls them. All calls them all the time. It was warm and it was endearing and it was affectionate towards Joe Biden in a way very few people actually relate to donald trump what the trump campaign did and I think they did well was they showed it doesn't matter whether you like Donald Trump or not. His policies are what you're there for and he keeps his promises on those policies. Now you can disagree you can say, no, he doesn't. You can say a liar I, mean the media's in full meltdown today in their fact checking pattern. I the media doesn't matter here. And the people who pay attention to the New York Times and MSNBC don't matter here. What matters here are the people who don't like Donald Trump but actually don't like the policies of the Democrats and what the president is trying to show them and I think did well last night was that it doesn't matter whether you like Donald Trump or not donald trump keeps his promises. And they used the voices of Americans not to relate to donald trump, but to show donald trump kept his. Like the his his exchange with the people who had been held captive around the world who he freed, we're we're in play a lot of that audio. If you're here for the nonpolitical stuff, you're not gonNA get a lot of that today because there was a lot that happened last night at the Republican convention and I think there was a lot of it. They did well, and if you want a sense of of just how well it went for the Republicans with just kind of the honest brokers in the media consider this clip from Van Jones on CNN on the one hand I think everybody here would applaud and should apply The fact that the trump administration has helped the black colleges criminal justice reform. There is stuff you're that should be applauded I'm not so much partisan I won't give that do. Now jolts went on to be critical of him, but that little nugget there it plays into this that the the the honest brokers median Van Jones is of the left, but he is an honest broker I I very much like the Guy Even as we disagree in politics, he's willing to call it as he sees it and he's he's not willing to be pushed over by Democrats. Torture talking points and he was willing to give the president credit there. There are some people who are but most of the media so profoundly broken in the age of Donald Trump they can't do that Brian. STELTER ON CNN already out there highlighting the CNN, the New York Times The Washington Post and the MSNBC. Take all of which are critical of the president. They don't matter what matters is the people watching at home and apparently from what I'm told reliably this morning more people watched the first night of the RNC then watched the first night of the DNC. That matters because the message last night was all pro America. Donald Trump keeps his promises and he's GonNa. Keep you safe. The currency executed well, last night. Not Everything was perfect. We'll get into some of that. But they did a good job last night they should be proud of themselves for what they were able to pull off a you know it doesn't help the media that they're focused on the peaceful protests in Wisconsin that have turned violent and they can't bring themselves to say that. I it really is just fascinating to me that. The media cannot bring themselves. To be honest. With, what is going on the media cannot bring themselves to be honest. With the violence in the protests and that is something that has been hit on. By the Republicans in their speeches. And one of those speeches, one of those that that really resonated was maximal Alvarez whose family fled Cuba for South Florida who teared up talking about the goodness of this country, a sound of tears hitting the paper of an application to become an American citizen most heard unlike the promises. But soon after they experienced that reality look at them. Listen to them? The Those false promises spread the wealth. Free Education Free Healthcare. Deformed the police. I socially state more than your family. And your community. They don't sound. Radical to my ears. They sound familiar and Fidel Castro's is if he was a communist. He said he was a Roman, Catholic? He knew he had. To hide the truth. But the country I was born he's gone. Totally, destroyed. WASHINGTON LOSING SEATTLE CHICAGO PORTLAND, and other cities. When I see the three being re reading. When I hear. The promises. Heard Echoes I've hear echoes of the former life. I never wanted to hear again. I see shadows. I thought how? My parents. Only, wanted one person. To decide my fate. meet. Some Body member, some government official. Some bureaucrat. Mary. Would be starting my own future. That was a powerful powerful speech it really was. Just, a a a wonderful speech. It was you. Can. You know how you can tell that was a great speech how forcefully the Democrats came out and denounced it. mean the there were some real nastiness towards that Guy by Democrats pointed out. So he apparently owns now a chain of gas stations in south Florida, and fought and won against regulators and and they were claiming that was somehow bad attacking this guy in his business calling for boycotts of his business. That's a good man and he had a compelling story. I'll tell you another compelling story the president with the American hostages in the Oval Office who surrounded him and told him their stories was I. It was a moment of most people i. don't know that most people have been realize. That that's what happened and that was the relevance of his speech an of him doing stuff like that to show that side of him is microwaves president do once again, it's an honor to be here honor to meet you in person basically what had happened with me is I went travel over to the country but Ron turned out it was a major major trap and that was apprehended there I went through a lot in there injustice system and the rain Ian Justice does Meron Oppressive extortionist terrorist regime what I'm talking about. But what you did search you were able to keep me out of that prison record time. It was amazing. That was a great store. He had a story to tell in good for him for tone and great By the way this hour of the program is brought to you by dynamic money. 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Now I want to get into some of the other speeches you may not have heard before I, do that. I. Need to give credit to CNN. Now a full disclosure here. I. Work for CNN for three years before moving to Fox where I was for five and a lot of friends at CNN. I think behind the scenes CNN does a very good job. I think CNN has been broken by the president s have so many media outlets and the Don Lemon Chris. CUOMO hours are flat out insufferable and some of the the midday anchors have become deeply hostile to the president and just across the board the level of nastiness towards this president and I get feel embattled he called the enemy of the people but but they descended to him they have not risen above him. And I just I? This is this is important to me to get on the record so that you can note it. As, much as I am you may criticize coverage at whether it's the Don. Lemon stuff or Chris Cuomo stuff or some of the mid day host to who just I mean the complaint hours. CNN does have really good in fair people who I very much enjoy, and like I know I like and respect. Wolf Blitzer who actually had a lot of positive things to say about the Republican convention last night I know like respect Gloria. Borger, she's like my big sister Dana Bash Jake Tapper John King I think they do a good job I think Anderson Cooper heightened too many. Social Conservatives who tell me regularly, I can't tell you the number of theologians in particular who have told me. They would far prefer to go on Anderson Cooper showing talk about the cultural issues of the day. Then go on Fox's shows where they feel dismissed and on Anderson Cooper show they feel like even though they know he disagrees given his background worldview, he gives them a fair hearing. I say all of that to say, I, as much as I criticize CNN often these days with a lot of the content that comes out of Chris Cuomo and his incest best with his brother and with down lemon and and just the the staggering meltdowns that he has and some of the other anchors there. They actually covered the Republican. Convention the way a convention should be covered and they actually I think deserve credit for it. They let the speech speak for themselves I watch CNN last week, and I watched this week because they're the network that advertises themselves as fair you you knew that the Fox. Network will probably be a little more critical of the Democrats and MSNBC would be just like I. Mean. It just just staggering love fest for the Democrats and you knew this week. MSNBC at one point last cut out of the speeches altogether, they just couldn't handle it at Fox I. got to tell you the reason I appreciated Fox News didn't even cover the nine o'clock hour CNN gave copious coverage to it. They broke in no more last night than they did the first night of the Democratic convention I actually had to go back and watch because I. Watch the braves last week. But I I did go watch and pay attention. How many times do they break in? When did they break in? They did a very similar format. Now, you can quibble with commentary if you want but CNN played it straight and they actually do deserve credit at a time that CNN is routinely a act and bashed and criticized including by me on occasion. They deserve a lot of credit particularly wind. They had some of their own loud voices like Brian stelter and others saying that CNN needed to jump in and fact, check in an update crayons and do stuff like that to combat misinformation disinformation of the artsy. They resisted the urge to do that. They played it straight last night we'll. It lasts all week I'm GonNa Watch and find out and I'll tell you. But last night. CNN did a very good job, and if you're watching the Republican convention unless you're watching the youtube or the c-span stream, CNN is the only place to watch it before ten o'clock and from ten to eleven even Fox I i. don't know what was up with ox last night. was very weird to see. Steve scalise on Fox while Charlie Kirk was speaking and then see Charlie Kirk home was Fox. While Steve Scalise was speaking meanwhile, you can actually see them giving their speeches on CNN. They cut out of Steve scalise speech on CNN to do some commentary and take some commercial breaks which they had packaged in the run-up to enroll calls and stuff which the RNC didn't do in the way the Democrats did but I thought it was very fair handling I thought the the punditry analysis and commentary was good I thought that Dana Bash and Jake Tapper. All of them. Did a really good job last night and I I wanted to spend a little bit of time pointing that out because I know in this day and age Republicans Watch Fox Democrats LOT WATCH MSNBC CNN oftentimes seems like it wants to be MSNBC light and people seem to be skeptical their coverage I think the political team at CNN is the best. And I, think they showed y last night in their coverage of it and they deserve credit even the president this morning if don't take my word for it president trump, this morning is tweeting. Nice things about CNN let let me say that again 'cause I know it may blow your mind the president of the United, states, this morning is tweeting. Thanks to C. N. N. for their fair coverage of the Republican convention. That right. There says everything you need to know. Now. Let me play you one sound bite from CNN analyze analysts, Dana Bash talking about Tim Scott Speech Tim Scott's speech, the senator, the ultimate. Speech for this evening was incredibly powerful. In so many ways. Yes it was political. Yes. He went after. Joe Biden and Democrats on a lot of. Important contrast issues, but he also talked about his personal story and the line I think will all remember is our family went from cotton to Congress in one lifetime abby that was pretty powerful. It was and I wanNA play that for you right now especially for hard working people hoping to rise instead we must focus on the promise of the American journey. I know that journey well. My grandfather's ninety, nine, th birthday. Would have been tomorrow. Growing up, he had to cross the street if a white person was coming. He suffered the indignity of being forced out of school as a third grader to pick cotton. And he never learned to read or write. Yet he lived long enough to see his grandson become the first African American to be elected to both the United States House and the United States Senate in the history of this country. Are Family went from cutting. To Congress. In one lifetime. And that's why I believe the next American Century can be better than the last. There are millions of families just like mine all across this nation full of potential seeking to live the American dream. And I'm here tonight to tell you that supporting the Republican ticket gives you the best chance of making that dream a reality. God bless you. And father. please. Continue blessing the United States of America God bless. I had to tell you that was a powerful powerful speech. From cotton to Congress in one lifetime. That was a powerful moment. In fact there was a real buildup of Nikki Haley speech. I want to get to her speech because she had some great things to say. There was a real build up of the Haley speech last night and and Tim Scott was somewhat treated as an afterthought. And I think Scott he closed the convince last night and gave the best speech of the night. One more bit from Tim Scott Speech make. No mistake. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won a cultural revolution a fundamentally different. America. If we let them, they will turn our country into a socialist utopia and history has taught us that path only leads to pain and misery especially for hard working people hoping to rise instead we must focus on the promise of the American. Journey. The promised American journey in any win on outlined that I all I it was a great speech. Tim. Scott. Just by the way I I know Tim I liked him, I, just I my time on stage with him. He's come to to multiple resurgent Red State Conferences that I've done and we sit on stage together every time and have always had the best conversations. He's just such a dear dear person. I. Hate that we're GONNA lose him. He's not running for reelection in the Senate really hate that we're gonNA losing but man, he's a good guy let's go to the phones. Four, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five Michael Watkins. Ville. You Watch you last night. What did you think? it was powerful. I. I was moved to tears multiple turns in in in your spot on about Tim. Scott. it was amazing. Or Limpar take. A Cuban man. Another. Another opportunity to drop her tier. He was He was sweet and concere knowing didn't look him up later. Didn't do any of that I thought it was fantastic. Okay. Now, listen you're you're a Republican to begin with I presume. And you'RE GONNA vote for Donald Trump anyway I presume. Okay now is there anything that you would have done differently I? The only reason I ask that is because if Democrat were to call in and I would ask them, what did you? What was there anything you light anything that you as a trump supporter wish they had done differently. I don't know really that's a good question. I didn't really have an agenda I. Don't think I I wanted to see if there was a connection or if they did the same thing Biden's group did was just fast Biden and I didn't think was going to play, and so I think I was pleasantly surprised with. Connected it was to the people in in Especially, especially given trump's I dunno Abrasiveness call it that I've not been a big fan of him as A. The way talks about others even his enemies I I wouldn't do it way myself. So I think you know they connected with me on a level that frankly Eric I think causes me to jump up this morning and one a good work for the man. And prior to last night, I was just going to be quiet in vote for him. It call it a day. All Right Michael I'm glad I asked that question because you you said something I wanted to get out for all the Democrats who may listen whether you hate listener not any any. You can't fathom what you saw last night. This wasn't a convention for you is for people like Michael. Who who is excited now where where he was going to go vote and maybe not do anything and Michael I gotTa tell you first of all I appreciate your phone call I'm GonNa. Let you go there I appreciate your phone call and I want to tell you that one of the big issues with Republicans that Democrats can't fathom because Democrats eight the president so much. They can't fathom that there are people out there who disliked the president. But are willing to vote for him because of his promises and his agenda, and that's what the GOP needed to do. Last night is to highlight those people and persuade them that you know what you may not like this guy. But look at the good stuff he's done for Americans, he's surrounded with first responders that he's talking to casually and humor with humor. He has on stage the woman who because of the president allowing her to take risky medicines was able to be healed away. She otherwise wooden he had him surrounded in the Oval Office with people who had been rescued from abroad, some of whom were captured in the Obama Administration and he was able to bring him home. He had to show promises made promises kept any did that? And I think that actually was effective for him. back to the phones eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four, two, five, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. Douglas from making how are you? Been, Zella. Zella. All right. Yeah. Not Live that long. But. Yeah Anyway I was really impressed with that that I'm really deal. Know. If you called her on not but she hit the nail on the head. Very, thanksgiving I gotTa tell you that I disagree with you on that one I, felt like she was the lady who yells at the drive through window. But. But she I thought she was great. She did the nail on the head and now I. also the Mess Donna Brazile. I felt she had been very successful through her. Lifetime and career, and I did not realize that she was and been praised. So badly I mean what? What, what can you tell us about this? Brazil's Life and career she. Look. Donna Donna Brazile and our friends We've known each other for a while she's actually dear family friend she's over on Fox now she and I were at scene together and she was the associate was Al Gore's campaign manager. She became chair of the DNC and She was booted from CNN over the allegations that she had sent Hillary Clinton budget questions in in one of the debates to help her against Bernie Sanders I do think in hindsight that that was a somewhat misrepresented story there She's a good person. You know let let me Tell You my Donna Brazile starring I realize if y'all hater politics. We're not supposed to like people whose politics differ, but but let me just tell you my Donna Brazile story. We. Were at CNN together and we had a debate in Mesa Arizona and she came in late. She actually came a day later than everybody else. To get ready for the debate of because it was Mardi Gras in New Orleans and she wanted to be a New Orleans. We're both from South Louisiana and she wanted to be in New Orleans and she came in she added this massive bag of beads into balloons from my kids. She had stayed out on the street all night a collecting this stuff for my kids and when she got there, she apologized and said it was actually. had been full but when she got off the plane, there were a group of soldiers coming back from Afghanistan who were also getting off awful plane as she was coming up coming into the terminal, and so she stood there and she beated all of the soldiers as they were getting gave Mardi gras beads and balloons that she had collected for my kids and it was sweet and she is just she's a wonderful kind person. We disagree on Politics but man that women can cook too she. I mean she grows her Okra up in washing just like I do here in Georgia grown Okra to make our own Gumbo I can't say a bad thing about her I just I genuinely like curve a person even if we disagree on Politics and I'm glad she's over at Fox now because I you know she's got a very Quick wit and you may hate everything she says but she's very funny and how she says a lot of the stuff and so I'm glad that Fox has someone like her over there. Now, the phone number here if you want to call in and give your take on the RNC is what is my number eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four, two, five, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. I just I continue. Okay. I no. No. No. I'm going to talk about I'm GonNa talk about that later I I just y'all I'm. I don't know what was happening with. Her last night. The the the Jinyu genuine reaction from left and right and this is important even from Republicans was did he have a hit a weed before he went on stage because he had read, I read Glassy Eyes. And I have no idea. But there was something I. You know all I could think was being charitable if drugs. Did. The makeup lady get makeup in his eyes I don't know but there was something there was something with him. He gave a good speech though and it's it's you know there was pulling out that shows that in in twenty twenty, four, pinch it's Don. Jr. evonne could trump and Nikki Haley would be like the four big candidates I don't actually believe it about the trump's. The reason I don't believe it about the trump's is Americans tend to Abhor Dynasty you the grumbling from Republicans over the Bush family over time I think that it particularly if the president wins. You're going to see the GOP want want to go with pence as the loyal vp it's his turn. If trump loses I think you're going to go YOU'RE GONNA. HAVE RE Republicans react badly Republicans don't particularly like losers and you're gonNA look how long it took the GOP to re-embrace George H W Bush after he lost in ninety two I it is. It's. It's this is a GonNa be an issue. and. We're GONNA have to deal with this issue of of where we go as a party in turning the Republican Party into the trump dynasty I don't think is wise for the GOP. Now. There's a side note here. On where the GOP goes moving forward with this right now the party is the party of trump. And this week although it is branded as the Republican National Convention. I think the GOP did something smart last night They made the entire convention about Donald. Trump. And a defensive trump's policies in his person. As. I. Mentioned yesterday. The polling clearly shows there is a divide between people's views of the president and people's views of the Republican Party and by firewall in the president and the Party some degree if the president goes down in November, they have insulated the GOP from the and if the president rises in November, will the GOP doesn't have anything to worry about people want to elect those who affect the president's agenda I think this was smart of the Republicans do some people disagree with this but I think it was very smart to make this the trump national convention, not the Republican National Convention the to give some separation between the Party and the president to insulate the party to some degree from the president's personality that one thing that people even those people who like what the president does a lot of them don't like his personality and suburban voters in particular tin the lash out on stuff like that. This gives some level insularity to the GOP and it was smart of them to do. I Really WanNa struck last night by just how much it is the party of trump. Every single thing was about the president The word Republican was not used very much last night. Now I don't have a word count of, but but I watched the the nine and ten o'clock Primetime Ariza Shreve to. Stream live on on instagram again and I I don't know maybe I will. We'll see but the level of insularity between the GOP and the president was actually smart and the word Republican was not used nearly as much as the word trump. Making sense a current events during this extraordinarily time can be trying conceived in liberty. 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So come back often subscribe to Youtube Channel be notified when new ones posted that is Bradley Fda Dot Org Slash Liberty Hello is Eric Erickson here the. Show all over the place. The fold number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five I'm glad to have you join me this hour I have waited until this, our our Athens affiliate does not come online until ten o'clock. And so I waited until this moment. And I WANNA play. A good three minutes of it. And I WANNA take your reaction on the RNC last night we're making our way through the RNC, I got lot audio cut up from this. Last night there were some great moments. I'll give you my thoughts on it I wanNA talk about dishwashers. Before I do that though. I need to play this for you. Oh, that's right. It's time. For Herschel Walker. I'm not an actor, a singer or politician. I'm Herschel Walker. Most of you know football player but I'm also a father, a man of faith and Vega Judge of character. I've known Donald Trump for thirty seven years and I don't mean just casuarina to him from time to time. I'm talking about a deep personal friendship. I watched him as an offer professional football team. Right, at the the team he said out to learn. He learned about the history of team, the players coaches every detail. then. Use What he learned to make the team better I watched him in the boardroom he can be in the middle of beak meeting. But if one of the keys was on the phone, he dropped everything to take the call. He taught me that families should be your top priority. Watch. THEM TREAT JANITORS, security guards, and waiters. The same way retreat a VIP he made them feel special because he knew they were. He understands that the other people who make this country run they clean they could they bill they dry they deliver. He told me Herschel make an effort to get to know people remember their names that stuck with me. One Time I plan to take his kids to Disney world with my family. At last minute donald say he'd like to join us. So they was in a business suit on is a small world ride. That was something to see. It just shows you what a caring loving father he does. It hurt my soul to hear terrible names that people call Donald. The worst one is resources. I take it as a personal insult people think I've had a thirty seven year friendship with the races. People think that they're talking about. Growing up in the deep South I've seen racism close I know what it is and it isn't Donald Trump. Just. Because someone love and respect the flying our national anthem and our country doesn't mean they don't care about social justice. I care about all of those things Sodas Donald. Trump. He's shows how much he cares about social justice in the black community through his actions and his ice and speaks louder stickers slogans on Jersey. He keeps right on fighting to improve the lives of black Americans and all Americans he worked night and day he never stops healy's nothing on the field. Some people don't like his style the way down obstacles that get into wear his gold. People on opposing teen. I. Ran over them either but that's how you get the job done. I pray every night that God gives them more time. Give him four more years. He has accomplished so much almost all by himself on a constant attack. But there are still more work to be done if you love America and won't make it better. Donald, trump's president. He's my president. And blessed to call him friend. That was Herschel Walker speaking last night a former dog guest wants a dog always a dog and a lot of people even people who are fans of the president really liked that speech and I thought he sold it very well one of the other people who I thought did a good job actually. was Vernon Jones from here in Georgia Jones didn't generate a ton of buzz by the mainstream media. But I thought they did a great job. I thought he did a good job in CNN aired a good portion of his speech and I want to play for you some of that as well. America. My name is Vernon Jones and I'm a state representative from the Great State of Georgia. As you can see, I'm a man of color. And I'm a lifelong Democrat to. You may be wondering was a lifelong Democrat speaking the Republican National Convention. And that's a fair question. And here's your answer. The Democrat Party does not want black people to leave their mental plantation. We've been forced to be there for Dick as and generations. But I have news for Joe Biden we are free. We are free people with free minds and I'm part of a large and growing segment of the black community who are independent thinkers, and we believe that Donald Trump is the president that America needs to lead. US forward. This is no time for sleeping in the basement. Joe Biden has had forty-seven years to produce results. But. He's been all talk and no action just like. So many of the Democrats who've been making promises to the black voters a for decades we've been there captive audience. When president trump saw to earn the black vote? The Democratic Party leaders went crazy. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer Literally started wearing Kim Tae clause around the US. Capitol. As if pandering were enough to keep us satisfied. Let. Me Tell you why I'm supporting our president. I grew up in the south and Law Hill North Carolina Scotland County, the Greenpan community to be exact my parents, Robin and root for Jones built, what their own hands they four wrong cinderblock home with no indoor. They had very limited education. But they instilled in us a strong work ethic that drove me from those tobacco Fay's of north. Carolina to those hallowed halls of the Georgia general. Assembly. My parents taught me if I believe in God worked hard and treat it every person fairly there was no limit to what we could achieve. I tend to north, Carolina Central University. And Historical Black College. For Generations, Hughes, have been the incubators that developed black scholars, math and science and religion engineering and politics. They have been imported springboards for the black success. But. Democrats haven't treated them that way when president trump took office, he changed everything. He delivered historic funding to ABC News and he guaranteed it for ten years something that has never happened in the history of this country. That gave our ABC's stability the chance to grow and produce the next generation of black leaders. That's right. Donald Trump did that he's also supported school choice to shoot that no trial no matter their race or zip code is left behind. I'm GONNA stop there. It was a good speech. And the line that drove the left absolutely insane. is quote. The Democratic Party, does not want black people to leave their mental plantation. Genuinely. A riot on social media among the at the moment he said I was actually doing a livestream last night. The moment he said I knew all of the right heads were going to explode and and they absolutely did absolutely did. They also exploded over her this particular line from Nikki Haley speech, Abidin Harris Administration would be much much worse. Last time. Joe's boss was Obama this time. It would be Pelosi Sanders and the squad. Their Vision for America is socialism and we know that socialism has failed everywhere. They WanNa tell Americans had a live much a think. They want a government takeover of health care. They want to ban fracking and kill millions of jobs. They want massive tax hikes on working families. Joe. Biden and the socialist left would be a disaster for our economy. But president trump is leading a new era of opportunity. The did not like the fact that Nikki Haley pointed out Joe Biden wouldn't be his own boss. They really did not like that last night she actually had a remarkable defensive. America's invite my fourteen year old woke up sworn into wire people attacking Nikki Haley for saying the country's not racist and I had to play her part of the species like, Oh, it was a good good defense. We'll get there as well. I WanNa take your phone calls eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five Richard You're going to be next. Welcome. Eric I there Tortilla get. Sure Hey look I just i. i. gotTa Tell You I watched Fox last night and I also had in my hand. I my phone. So I could watch the speeches you know in in pretty much real time. My hated what Fox did. I mean I really did. I I wasn't there to see their commentators wasn't there to see see there you know guests it I wanted to hear and listen to the speeches and it it just ear me to no end. So I guess I'M GONNA try. CNN tonight. You I gotTa tell you. I'm I'm glad you said that I was I was perplexed as to why Fox didn't do that and I guess they wanted some level of counter programming ratings in the light but a CNN is going to capture the ratings because Fox I mean listen I I I didn't want to hear Charlie Kirk speaking when Steve scalise was giving a speech. I didn't hear Steve scalise talking to a Fox host while Charlie Kirk was and that was the dynamic less it was bizarre. I mean they they skipped over the the. Cuban gentleman I mean, I don't even think they may have recapped him once or twice but he gave very good speech. You know in that in that whole thing. Yeah, and you know I gotta say I, think if I would've programmed differently knowing Fox knowing what Fox was going to do if I was at the RNC I would've put Herschel Walker and Mr Alvarez in the ten o'clock hour with Nikki Haley and Tim Scott to make sure you had been there because they were powerful messages but it was really was bizarre of of Fox not to cover the nine o'clock hour. Right Ono. I. I completely agree and you know. I I agree with you about. I mean I felt like she was screaming at a little time. I. Just Heard you. Re Richard. I gotTA. Let you your your cell phone's breaking up on me but but thank you. Thank you for the phone call eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. Listen we we had somebody call in about kilfoyle who liked her I. Just I don't know she's in an empty room folks. I'll play this little soundbite for you. She's in a completely empty room talking fallen. You have the ability to choose your life and determine your destiny. Don't let the Democrats take for granted. Don't let them step on. You don't let them destroy your family's your lives and your future don't let them kill future generations because they told you and brainwash you and fed you lies that. I just I'm. It didn't work for me. Now look I I got a lady from Republican activists Atlanta She's upset with me. She thinks I'm a sexist and misogynist that led the Latino Women on stage and you just don't. Know it's not that she was boisterous is as she was over the top. I mean I kept expecting her throughout an evil laugh there at some boy don't let the Democrats, decide your guest. Off. It did not work. And I I I'm in the majority listen No. When you're in the minority even when you're right in and those of you who thought it was a great speech. You're in the minority even among Republicans even among Republicans who heard that speech are like, why is she yelling at me? I just eat it didn't work it don junior gave a good speech. I knew what was up with his is there are a whole lot of people I I was getting text messages all night for people did he smoke weed before he went on stage people suggested was the on drugs what glassy red is it? So. Here's the thing Guilfoil speech and Donald Trump junior speeches were prerecorded they. They weren't live on the stage Nikki, Haley and Tim Scott. Were live on the stage. Those were pre recorded. And I just I'm perplexed by the Guilfoil speech if it was prerecorded. Why didn't they go say hey, take to comb the heck down. I don't I don't. I don't know why they didn't do that. I just eat. It didn't work for me. If you're going to be on this program eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five we're going to take a break man this is a Wendy's can you call them down? Welcome back on the words of Kimberly. Guilfoil. Come back. I just look I I'm sorry it was just it was. So over the top, just it didn't work for me. The phone number. If you want, you can call it in praised Kimberly you'll hoyle speech that that's fine the full number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four, five I I do I have to play this one little clip from the president it it it just it broke the souls of members of the media and I found the reaction Y'all. Okay. I, just a real quick. I just I I gotta say this. There are things that Brock Obama would do. That the media would give him a pass on like for example, if you remember raft in two, thousand, nine when everyone was at the White House and John McCain was trying to tell the president something he interrupted John McCain is at John I one. And the media gave him a pass on the sort of stuff and the president knows that the media has no humor for him and he can say stuff that just causes their heads to explode. Let me play for you a sound bite of the president in the the reaction from the media not from the left. But from the media, which you can say is of the left was predictable. Thank you. You WanNa really driving crazy. You say twelve four years. because. We caught them doing some really bad things. In Two thousand sixteen. Let's see what happens. We caught them doing some really bad things. The reaction from members of the media was hysterical outrageous. It really was the man knows when he says stuff like that, it's like the the trump tweet that shows that the trump twenty twenty and then it has trump twenty twenty four in the history of two, thousand, eight, hundred, Eighty, eight, and then it has trump thirty, thirty, two or twenty, thirty two and on and on and on it goes and and the media absolute staggering meltdown over him doing that at some point you. GotTa, laugh at the stuff or you've just got to be willing to ignore it. If you're in the media because all it does it helps the president when the media blows up everything about the president when the media fact checks every word the president says when the media goes that overboard with the president statements, it allows people to tune it out in the president has figured that out it is it becomes very much like the boy who cried wolf except it's the media crying wolf. And the president knows this has used it remarkably to his advantage and the fact the press can't figure it out. Is actually strike because these are they're not dumb people. But they can't figure out they can't get it in their head that screaming about everything makes every single scream less noticeable it. It was like Kimberly Guilfoil speech last night she every line was yelled and a lot of people just kinda cringe his white. Why are you yelling at meets the same way with the media when it comes to their treatment of Donald Trump and I just I gotTa tell you as an aside I find that very funny that the media can't figure it out in the president has figured it out and uses it so often so well to his advantage to to bypass the media and get other people to tune out the media. I wanted to your phone calls on your reaction. We got a lot of speaking to go but a lot of you want to chime in on this as well. So a lot of people we had a caller in the first hour who called from Watkins Ville, and he was going to vote for the president. Well, not enthusiastically, it was gonNA vote in Nelson he's energized and that's part of the point of this convention that the Media Mrs when we come back I'm going to take your calls but I want to talk about dishwashers of all things believe it or not. We need to talk about dishwashers. This hour of the program is brought to you by true precision that. A good segments of the second men that last night true precision supports the second there obviously benefited by the Second Amendment they make modified parts for your guns and they're awesome. I have a glock forty, three x what I take it to the gun range people want to know where I got it I. got it at true precision. I was a customer there's, and then they reached out, they wanted to sponsor the program I love them they are fantastic. They are works of art, but not only are they works of art. 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Good Morning I've heard Some complaints and Avocado planning about it to last night about they show the convention for a little while and then go to some talking heads toward Babylonia. What we think they said so for. I found a fix for that. Last. Night I skipped from four different. Channels. and. CNN. MSNBC. C. Span, and Fox. And one I was watching if that one they're talking heads popped up I went to another channel and I didn't miss a thing the whole night. You Know I. was tempted to watch C. Span and the RNC stream the whole speech live on. Youtube. They've got a YouTube Channel but I I, decided to stick with CNN last night because I really wanted to see if their coverage differed from their coverage last week with the Democratic convention and it didn't I was pleasantly surprised particularly when there were calls by people to get them to change and to get them to do aggressive fact. Checking on the like and they didn't they they. They stuck with it. They covered them fairly they interrupted at the same time. They interrupted the democratic speeches. I thought it was good and CNN even the president this morning giving a shout out to see an end for coverage of it which I'm. I'm surprised he did but he did be in making going to go to you next. Welcome to the program be how are you? Okay. Good on. I was thinking about how the Kamala Harris was claimed be the first lady of color to run for vice president. And I was thinking about Sarah Palin is native. American wouldn't that make her the first lady of color run. For President I I I. Don't know that she is. She is she's from Alaska. She's a native American and Alaska well Her family is actually she they moved there. They're not native hang on a second I'm going to find this out for us Let's See cer- when she. President, that was what they were saying that she was native American the. no let's hang on a second Okay. The Daily Telegraph does her profile for back. Then she's native. She's not a native of Alaska. It's toby. Harnden I know toby toby is a great. Guy So she her her father is Irish and her mother is a German British descent and she's from Idaho and moved to Alaska. I wonder why they were talking about her. Husband. Her husband is apparently Okay, that that must be it. Yeah. So yeah, that's it. Todd Palin is part eskimo champion snowmobiler. She met todd and eloped with him sometime after her family moved from Idaho to to. The answer to the question? So he been the. Yeah absolutely, thanks very much for calling in Yup. All right. So, he todd would have been the first second dude as he referred to himself. And would have been the first native American, Second Dude. All right. I want to talk about dishwashers. You may not realize this but dishwashers in the last five years five to six years have been changing to meet EPA regulations and one of the things with dishwashers in the last five to six years is their efficiency use of water and in addition the detergents that go into dishwashers now, no longer use phosphates. Phosphates are very important in dishwashers because phosphates help break down the. Bond between food and ceramic plates and glass. You get stuff stuck on the even your pyrex dishes that you you run them under this. This is so calm. You do all of that and it doesn't come out. You can run them in the dishwasher phosphate in the dishwasher detergent and in a dishwasher on a high pressure, high rents, high heat cycle, and it'll come off typically. But not anymore the key to getting a dishwasher that works for the last five years as you've got wash your dishes before you put them in the dishwasher that then really just sterilize the dishes it doesn't actually wash them I know that sounds bizarre. It sounds a little bizarre and absurd. But that's where we are in this country has a lot to do with EPA regulations adopted in the second half of the Obama Administration. Washington state band banned phosphates early in the Obama years and other states began to expand it. The EPA grabbed onto it and started doing it in an addition insisted on efficiencies within dishwashers that make them less functional as dishwashers. I bring this up because the president has talked a lot about this on the campaign trail and at least members of the media, very perplexed two weeks ago the president talked about water pressure in showerheads. When I buy a shower head, I have to drool out the water regulator every shower head in my house I've had to drill out the the the pressure regulators because the pressure regulators slowdown, the pressure of the drain. Now, I I've got a I've got a pressure regulator that comes into the House that keeps everything compliant, and so the press regulator on the showerheads messes up things further. So I. GotTa Take Them Out in the president talked about this the other day the Congress limited the amount of pressure that can flow through shower heads in order to save water and the EPA interpreted that whereby if you have multiple shower heads the shower heads combined must meet that flow as opposed to eat shower head beating that flow. So if it's too in, you've got to shower heads each shower head can only have a a one pound of pressure as opposed to two and the White House the trump administration's revised that so that each can have to this sounds very oculus it sounds very dumb. But this actually resonates particularly the dishwashers with a lot of people in America And every time, the president says, these sorts of things. It's the members of the Media Act with puzzlement and and like it's nonsensical and why is the president bringing up dishwashers and showerheads on the campaign trail? Well, I bring this up to point out that much of the media these days is actually in a bubble they live in the DC New York corridor they tend to be highly secular. They don't often go to church they less and less celebrate a sectarian holidays they they gravitate to each other they. They may be foodies or what have you in this corridor between new? York and Washington and it becomes very, very insular. And because reince alert the lives of Americans. And most of these people lean to the left socially culturally morally fiscally. They believe that government does a lot of good. They have a lot of faith in government. They have a lot of faith in people, but they've decided that people betrayed their faith by supporting, for Donald, by supporting. Donald Trump. and. It really was incredible. Over the last couple of years to be mindful of in the coverage of the president, how much of a bubble? So much of the mainstream media now is in. They do not relate to the average American. They don't relate to people who hunt they don't relate to people who own guns they don't relate pro-lifers. They don't relate to people who go to church on Sunday. They don't relate to people who have big families in need good dishwashers and they don't really people who need big vehicles to carry their big families. We are increasingly diverging into two countries culturally morally fiscally. And the media overwhelmingly has planted its flag with the left and cannot relate. So. Much of the coverage that you're seeing from the media today about what happened at the Republican Party convention last night is fueled by being within that bubble. They don't understand that Maximal Alvarez. A Cuban refugee to this country could potentially relate. To Americans and have captivating story to tell. They cannot understand that Herschel Walker might relate to people. They do not understand that the president sitting with a bunch of people who were hostages in other countries and he helped them get home could relate to people that they don't understand that they look at what the Republican Party did last night and they believe it's a lie they believe it's out of touch. They believe it doesn't represent anything America could want, and that's because the media lives in a bubble where it's not the America they want. and. That's a very important distinction moving forward when you understand that. So much of the mainstream media in this country the political analyst at CNN. NBC ABC CBS MSNBC The New York Times the, Washington, post the even some at Fox. They don't live in the world that you and I live in. I. I don't care where you're listening to be right now I'm broadcasting from Macon Georgia. I'm broadcasting from the middle of Georgia. We haven't been able to go to church and months although we want to our kids just started going back to school i. have a fourteen year old who turns fifteen this week I have an eleven year old who turns twelve in December. We have dishwasher that is eight years old and it is broken in pieces and. Parts of it are broken and we keep adding fixing repairing because we don't want a new dishwasher because we knew how bad they are. We have SUV's to be able to transport our kids to various things in their friends. We don't live in an urban corridor. We have woods behind the next to our house. We live in a suburb and most of the media doesn't they don't live in houses they live condos or apartments they don't have big cars they have drivers or they take public transportation. You, they don't have to worry about their dishwasher because someone washes the dishes. They don't have to speak to the middle class except maybe the doorman in their apartment or their driver other way to their network. This becomes a serious problem. In one of the things that has happened in the past is that the media does get outside of Washington during primary season, they go to places like Iowa and South Carolina. But because of the shaping pandemic, they missed a lot of that travel this year. So they missed being able to get a sense from the American people what's going on in the country and as a result of that, they've missed a lot of things and their ties in their links or often people of the Democratic Party side, and so they're. Surprised when they see that crime as an issue, which hasn't registered with people as a major issue in this country for three or four years is suddenly a top five issue according to Pew like how can this be? They don't understand that the president can highlight of the protesters burning down local businesses, and that's an issue that resonates with people because it does resonate with them and it doesn't resonated their bubble. It doesn't resonate in the bubble of people who don't realize that there's a problem with dishwashers of this country. A buddy of mine on twitter in the two, thousand, sixteen election. Asked, how many of the blue check marks knew anyone who who drove a pickup truck? I've mentioned this before. Members of the media he's he's a he's respected on twitter. He's got followers people pay attention to him. They lost their minds in in rage with him for daring. Asked that question as if he was suggesting they lived on another planet. How dare he questioned the Americans? And the reason they acted that way is because they don't. The Ford F one fifty is the best selling vehicle in this country. The Chevy Silverado is the number two bestselling vehicle in this country. The number three bestselling vehicle in this country, the Dodge Ram and the number four is the GMC. Sierra those are the four most popular vehicles in this country. Last year, those four vehicles outsold every other type of vehicle. Normally though the best selling cars combined out sell trucks not last year. And many of the major members of the media who shaped the news who guide the news who participate on the news don't know anyone who owns one of the top four selling vehicles in the country. Because they live in a bubble. And that bubble. Shapes their coverage. And they shape their coverage based on those they interact with and the people they interact with our people also in the bubble who do not live the lives of ordinary Americans who live within one hundred miles of a major American river valley. They all live within twenty five miles of coast. In. So so much of the coverage you're going to get this week is going to be for people like that that by the way that is actually why I like listening to people on CNN like Dana, Bash, Jake Tapper, Gloria, Borger John King, and even Wolf Blitzer. who go out of their way to try to relate to people who are outside that bubble? That's why the president is praising coverage at CNN. They go out of their way to try to understand travelers, they may not like them. You may not like their coverage, but they try their best to understand these voters and so much of the coverage are going to. Get from the New York Times or The Washington Post Ord Don. Lemon's of the Chris Cuomo's you are on. CNN. But but actually in the bubble and don't recognize it as so much of the coverage you'll get from them as is so hostile violently hostile to people who might vote for Donald Trump. They presumed that these people are all racist and they're not. Then you've got good people like Tapper Bash and Gloria, Borger John King. Wolf. Blitzer, and end the like on CNN. You've got print bear at at Fox you've got Bill Hemmer you've got Martha maccallum Tucker Carlson You've got the Fox guys in guys and Gals I should say. You know one of the things that that helps Fox with his coverages they tried to do a great deal to pay attention to what people within one hundred miles of Rural Valley think as opposed to twenty five miles of coast. And you're seeing this in the coverage now and the hostility to trump voters and the inability to process that the message from the Republican convention actually works for those voters. If, you don't get why dishwashers in America or an issue the president brings up on the campaign trail. You fundamentally cannot understand the president's strategy. You think it's a dumb strategy it's not it's a strategy that gravitates geared towards people who aren't attuned to politics but have real world grievances about the way government has regulated problems into their lives. The president gets this that. So many of the National Press Corps doesn't isn't a reflection of the president it's reflection on the press corps and they need to do better. I. I. Just I. I'm as an aside here I'm just gonNa tell you. I'm sore. I'm like, I, it pains me to sit right now I went to the Joe. So I go to this place in Macon called towel training it used to be cross fit towel. Now it's training, but it's IT'S It's more comprehensive than Crossville but yesterday it was crossing it. And I had to throw a twenty pound medicine ball in the air one, hundred, ten times. In swing a fifty pound Kettle Bella hundred ten times. And do one hundred, ten pushups. That was my workout and I'm dead. I feel like I've been run over may maybe I would feel better if I was run over I I'm dead I just eat there are parts of my body that I didn't know existed and I only know exists because I can feel them hurting right now from what I did yesterday I I literally went to bed last night I thought Oh gosh, I got the virus. My chest hurts so bad and and that's one of the signs you have the virus is you have just pain in your chest and I thought I I've I've gotten the virus. What have I done in the wait? No. No you idiot you had to throw medicine ball one, hundred, ten times and do one, hundred, ten pushups you're you're hurting because of that. I'm blame Stephen The trainer a listen if if you live in making an and you want to die at the. You want a really good trader workout. Go go go see Stephen at at at Towel just I I pay so that you can't come work out with me I I have an excellent. Yes y'all. Okay. I really should get back to the convention, but I'll just I'll. I'll tell you this is this is my level of petty selfishness. I. I pay extra to work out by myself at the gym with a trainer with no one else around and the reason I do I kid you not if I go to the gym Apparently, everyone in middle Georgia listens to w macy where I broadcast on, and if I go to the grocery store I gotta wear ear buds now so that people can see in not because everybody wants to stop and talk and I was going to do just a regular old jim and people would coffee I'm on the I am literally running on a treadmill and people want to ask me my take on politics like I. Can't talk I'm reading and I just I. So now I'm like, okay, I'm I'm GonNa go pay extra so that I can be at the gym where no one else can be gym's closed and you can't come in while I work. But if you want a really good workout I in across towel a where I go, it's by the mall the the river crossing store shops. The Stephen is great the owner man y'all please. I love you I really do and I'm glad that so many people listen to the show and milk George I really am. But it's getting a little awkward out there particularly in political season right now. The. The the number of people the and I love you all and I actually had a guy at the store. As I don't WanNA bother you. But I listen to you and I love your show. Thank you. You're the type of person. I could talk to I just don't want to give you the play by play on the polling analysis while I'm in the grocery store down the down the healthcare I'll looking for vitamins for my wife I'm like really I can't do that. All right when we come back, I will take more of your phone calls and more analysis of the Republican convention and baby. 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Y. at the end fd in dot org slash liberty video new videos appear weekly. So come back often subscribe to the Youtube Channel be notified when a new ones posted. That is Bradley Fda Dot Org Slash Liberty Hello and welcome everyone out there it is Eric your ex and I'm happy to take your calls on the Republican convention. The full number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five I'm I'm? GonNa, take a phone call. I'm going to move on to a different topic and I'm going to come back to the convention. We we still got stuff to play and things to talk about and I guess we'll be doing that this. We just just fair warning for those of you who kind of get tired of the stuff that there's so much happy this week. Now, why didn't I do that Do that much the last week with their? Because if I did none of you would listen to you really want to hear Barack Obama drone on for hours on end I mean some of you would, but you've been the minority I, I know my audience. There there's good stuff this week and me as someone who doesn't particularly care for the president personally but I like all of his policies I can feel after watching the convention just last night I can feel like you know what we're. We're headed in the right direction here we've already had a couple of calls for people and I don't really like the guy but man, this is good. It makes me WANNA, go vote for him and that's the message that Republicans needed to hit now. I want to Go Diane Colin from making Georgia Diane. Welcome. Hi. I'm calling about what you were talking about regarding various social classes in groups of people who live in a bubble. I would add that. One good example is politicians with unaffected incomes deciding which are jobs and livelihood are central. Oh that's a good one. You're absolutely right. The. The multimillionaire politician who doesn't have a day job other than he's a full time politician who doesn't have a stake in the economy who can decide for himself whether or not your business viable? Yeah. You know I gotta say that is one thing I think is to Brian Chimps credit. Is. He did not decide to classify businesses as essential and nonessential now just so you know. In all fairness to all politicians there actually is a law that defines actually gives a technical definition for what is an essential and nonessential business, and in essential business is a business that provides communications and supplies to those who aid the government. So if you are a if you work for gas station your essential if you are work for Cable Company and you're keeping utilities going, you're essential If you're in the military, you're essential if you work for a media broadcaster, you're considered essential and that's actually there's a federal law. But beyond that this, this is important beyond that. There is the issue of whether or not your businesses the right to stay open in some states. Politicians picked and chose an in this state. The governor decided that is if you can keep Your Business Open with certain requirements that's fine. Until he decided it was every business needed to close except for those the federal government classified as essential and we need to shut shutdown. I saw the a responsible job and I realized that that he made a lot of people angry foreclosed closing down at all and he made a lot of people angry for opening I. thought he did a good job. Now. I I want to move on to something and. This could get me in trouble. I need to be careful how I talk about this because I I know this is something that could get me in trouble. I know that. But I feel an obligation to say this. One of the. Ways, the world conspires. Against you. Is the world conspires to make you care about things you cannot control. And distracts you from the things you can control. I want to say that again because I, need you to understand where I'm going here. The world works. To make you care about things you cannot control. And distract you from the things you can control. I. Had to. Sneeze. Try this again. I. Could feel it coming. The world works to distract you from the things that you can control and keep you focused on about things you can't control. And so you see the state of the world around you. And you become despondent and prone to despair, you see rioters you see looters UC, violence you see police brutality you see the things that you cannot control and you care deeply about those things and it distracts you the world distracts you the media distracts you everything distracts you from those things you can care about and can control. That's where we are as a country. I just got an email from a friend of mine who actually is a Democrat who's listening to part of the program and it was expressing some frustration and upset about what's going on in the country. They got me thinking about this in the not original to me. I can't find the actual CS Lewis Line but see us Lewis made a point about that as well. Would someone asked him how to care about things around the world far off in far off places that he basically said don't. Not that you should be concerned about them, not that you should pay attention for not that you shouldn't pray for them, but you can't control those things, but she can't control your backyard. And I think there's a real divide shaping up in politics between people who realize that. And, people who don't people who were so focused on changing Washington, DC as if it can change the whole country when it can't when people are trying to find the silver bullet to solve the problem when there is no silver bullet. And what we see at the national level during conventions of last week in this week is an explicit focus on preserving or changing, keeping or taking over. Washington DC. And the fact of the matter is your local school board plays a bigger role in your daily life than Washington DC does. And how many of you are going to your local school board meetings? Your mayor and city council wherever you live. Will Affect your life on a daily basis more regularly and more completely than Washington, DC and how many of you care about your may oral incidental races. Your County Commission will affect you in more fundamental ways than the president will. Your governor in your state legislature will as well on a daily basis impact you more regularly than Washington, DC from Your Kid's education to crime on your streets and how many of you are focused on that. Or are you focused on Washington? DC. And the odds are it's not just this week and last with the conventions. It's every week. We all get spun up about things that happen. Washington DC that aren't really going to affect us in the way, our school board, our City Council, our county commission, or our state legislature, our water authority or our industrial authority in our local communities will. And when we see what happened in Wisconsin. When we see the man killed by police. It has spent a lot of people in Wisconsin into outrageous fury. I think we're probably not getting the complete story there given it does appear the guy was reaching into his car. The police were concerned for their own lives. They told him not to do it It's being spun this way in that way. But she can't unless you live there really affect those police were that situation. which you can't affect is your local community. And this is broken record time for me. Some of the best advice you will find on planet Earth resides in a single book. That book was written over thousand several thousand years. Is a book of Wisdom and advice, and for those of us who are believers, it is the very word of living God. And one of the great pieces of advice you will find in that book. Is to seek the welfare of the city in which you live and pray for it and there you will find your welfare. And I that is found in Jeremiah. Twenty nine. and. I want to read for you. The passage of it. because. This is the advice. That I think, is the advice that all of should take for how to navigate through our life. Thus says the Lord of hosts the god of Israel. It actually reads. The says Ya way. The God of Israel. To all the exiles whom I have sinned exile from Jerusalem to Babylon. Build. Houses and live in them. Plant Gardens and eat their produce. Take wives and have sons and daughters. Take wives for your sons and give your daughters in marriage that they may bear sons and daughters multiply there and do not decrease. But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile. And pray to the Lord on its behalf. For in its welfare, you will find your welfare. For. The says the Lord of host. The God of Israel do not let your prophets in your diviners you are among you deceive you and do not listen to the dreams that they dream for. It is ally that they're prophesyzing to you in my name I did not send them to you declares the Lord. Seek. The welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile and pro to the Lord on its behalf for it's welfare and you will find your welfare. Let me ask those of you I'm I'm just randomly I'm Gonna I'm GonNa, open a map. I'm. GonNa. Look at City Georgia. and. I know. Given our audience that I've got listeners there. And so I'm going to ask the people of Eton Georgia. On the map. People have eaten in. Georgia. Do you know where the battered women in your neighborhood go? When they need rescue. Do you know where the homeless man on the street goes at night. Do you know his name. Do you know where he gets his meals? Do you know how he became homeless Do you know your next door neighbor. Do you know their name. Do you know anything about their life. What about those of you in Athens. Do. You know your neighbor. Near apartment complex or down the street. Do you know where the homeless go. Do you know where the children. In your neighborhood go with her parents aren't home. Do you. Know How to help. Do you know where the Food Bank is? Those of you enroll. where's the soup kitchen? I say these things and I'm mindful of the fact that there are areas and make in where I live and I've gotta do better at. You can be spun up by Washington DC all day. Long. And the politicians of America right now, the convention last week for the Democrats the Republicans. For this week, they're trying to persuade you the other side is bad and they're good and righteous, and really they're all centers to. You may like the policies of one better than the policies, the the other but the reality is those policies aren't going to affect you by enlarge sure a healthcare package can affect your income and your insurance and a tax cut or tax increase can affect your income and your life by and large. It's going to be your city council. It's going to be your board of Education Your Board of education that starting whether gets you need to go back to school. Is Going to the local nonprofit in the local churches, is your church engaged in the community or is your church so aloof that it only preaches on a Sunday and since missionaries around the world endorse its own backyard. Are you in your church in your community in your unchurched nature. Are you seeking the welfare of Your community? Are you engaged in some way in your community to improve your community because there you're gonNa find your welfare. And I've mentioned before I believe this nation is in cultural decline and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Donald. Trump is not gonNA, stop it anymore than Joe Biden is going to stop it is just the way the world works we are in cultural decline we we are headed that way. You may not like the pessimism I call it realism. And if you want to preserve anything, you want to protect yourself. You want to avoid some level of persecution and hostility to you be engaged in your community as a member of your community. Don't abandoned your faith don't abandon your values but be involved in your community seek the welfare of the community where you live build your house, Grow Your Garden Start, your family don't decrease. And seek the welfare of your city. So much of what we're seeing of the political conventions last week in this week are to tell you that the other side is bad out to get you. The other side is not bad enough to get you. They just view the world differently from you and I realized as a partisan with the talk radio choice was tell you the other side is bad and wants to get you and I used to really believe that. And now, I've come to realize that the other side I think has bad ideas but they themselves are not bad people by and large they're exceptions but you know there are exceptions on the conservative side. If you don't believe me all you people who rallied with Jerry Falwell junior to defend the president of the United States, he's been letting his wife sleep with another dude while he watches a if you can believe the press reports. It's always amazing to me how private immorality precedes public displays of apostasy and bad behavior. Not Thought original to me. But a lot of you allied with him. Well, he's not exactly a good personality and you're so busy looking at the other side maybe stop looking at the other side and actually look in your own backyard in figure out a way to improve your local community whether you're in Macon or eaten, or Athens, or Clarksville, or Clayton, or Romer Dalton or Jasper. Vienna or you Adila wherever you are. Seek the welfare of the city in which you live. We are so focused this week on a political convention for a politician in Washington DC. How much will we focus on our own backyard? It's a question I gotta answer for myself, but it's when you've got to answer for yourself as well. You can't affect what's going on in Wisconsin with the riots and the violence you can't affect the people in Portland. Oregon. You can't affect change in those communities. You can't impact those police departments you can't open people's eyes to injustice in those communities. Unless you live there. But you can in your community. And part of me just. Hates that that. So many people feel like on talk radio. Now my job is to spin you up and get you mad when really what I want you to do is focused on the fact that you have the power to change your local community in many of us would rather complain about Washington and focused their than doing anything for the homeless guy down the street. You are your brother's keeper a powerful moment from Nikki Haley in last night speeches is so many Democrats condemn the country as inherently racist. She defended the United. States, and I thought it was a great defense. There's one more important area where I president is right. He knows that political correctness and canceled culture are dangerous and just plain wrong. In. Much of the Democratic Party, it's now fashionable to say that America is racist. that. Is Ally. America is not a racist country. This is personal for me. I am the proud daughter of Indian immigrants they came to America and settled in a small southern town. My father wore turban my mother war. Sorry. I was a brown girl in a black and white world. We face discrimination and hardship but my parents never gave in to grievance and hate. My mom built a successful business. My Dad taught thirty years at a historically black college and the people of South Carolina me as their first minority and first female governor. America is a story that's a work in progress. Now is the time to build on that progress and make America even freer fairer and better for everyone. That's why it's so tragic to see. So much of the Democratic Party turning a blind eye towards riots and rage. The American people know we can do better. And of course, we value and respect every black life. The black cops who've been shot in the line of duty. They matter the black small business owners who've watched their life's work go up in flames they matter the black kids who've been gunned down on the playground, their lives matter to. In their lives are being ruined and stolen by the violence on our streets. That was I thought a powerful moment. And you know that the e left. Thought, it was a powerful moment as well because they've left out everything after Nikki Haley, the country's racist and they have been savaging her I mean genuinely savaging her for daring to say what she said last night and she's right and they're wrong and she has an American success story just like Tim Scott has an American success story. And the fact that the the left decided to go nuts over what she had to say is is really a I'm I'm not surprised. I'm really I'm not surprised I'm disappointed but I'm not surprised that they would go there and I find it interesting that they want to. Haley is actually in an in an interesting position right now in that. There are a lot of people on the on the right who don't like her because she wasn't sufficiently pro-trump to begin with and they don't believe that she. They believe she'll sell him out eventually solid values. There are a lot of people on the left to despise her because they really genuinely believe that she's the biggest threat moving forward within the GOP, and so they want to destroy your now and she's got to figure out. A way to navigate this very carefully over the next four years whether the president wins reelection or not. I mean the question goes for the president. If he wins reelection is Mike Pence the front runner in twenty twenty four we haven't heard for Mike Vince. Yet I've got somebody from him. We need to listen to when we come back right here on the Eric Erickson show hello and welcome back it is irregular your accent here the. Phone number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric. Eight seven, seven, seven, three, seven, four to five if you WANNA call in and be a part of the program Thank you the listener Taylor who's city the Louis quote I was thinking of earlier listen to this I think each village was meant to feel pity for its own sick and poor whom it can help and I is the duty of any private person to fix his mind. On which he cannot help this may even become an escape from the works of charity we really can do to those. We know God may call any one of us to respond to some faraway problem or support those who have been so called, but we are finite and he will not call us everywhere or to support every worthy cause and real needs are not far from us seek the welfare of the city in which you're an exile. Now I WANNA turn my sights on the president and the Vice President I played a lot of the other clips one more from someone not named Mike Prince or Donald Trump. And this is from Jim Jordan. Who if you watched CNN last night they actually I don't think covered all of this. They interrupted part of the head to go take their commercial timeout before the big things began. But listen to this they tried the Russia hoax, the Mueller investigation and the fake impeachment. But in spite of this unbelievable opposition, this president has done what he said he would do taxes cut regulations reduced economy growing lowest unemployment fifty years out of the Iran deal embassy in Jerusalem. From North Korea. A new US in the agreement, and of course, he's building the wall and rebuilding our economy as we speak. I loved the presence intensity and is willing to fight every day in Washington for our families. But what I also appreciate about the president is something most Americans. Never get to see how much he truly cares about people. Are Family is seen it two years ago. Our nephew was killed in a car accident. He lived a mile up the road from US grow up wrestling and training with our boys was a high school state champion Varsity Athlete for the University of Wisconsin. Saturday morning three days after the accident. Walked to the car to head up to utilize parents home when the president called, we talked about a few issues and then he asked how the family was doing. said they're doing. Okay. Mr President but it's tough. The presence said, yeah losing a loved one is always difficult. And it's really tough when they're so young. I then said Mr President I'm actually walking into their house right now. Obviously, they don't know that I'm talking to you. But if you'd be willing to say hello to utilize dad, you'd make terrible day a little less terrible. What's his name? The president asked? I walked the door and said, todd, the president wants to talk to you. For. The next five minutes family and friends sat in complete silence as the president of the United States took time to talk to a dad who was hurting. That's the President I've gotten over the last four years. The Democrat sit a lot of that what you'll biden. And to be fair, there are a lot of stories like that. Tell about Joe Biden. Again this goes back to me sane. You can quibble with whether you define him as a good guy or not based on the policies of, but Joe Biden is nice guy. And there are tons of people with tons of stories about Joe Biden like that. But, those stories exist for Donald Trump as well and you would never know what by the media coverage of Donald Trump and that's why that needed to be highlighted now to the president and the vice president let me begin with something the vice president said you know a surprise the delegates in Charlotte who were doing their official nominating in Charlotte a Joe Biden did not go to Wisconsin or where the Democrats worried didn't go in and do that, and so the president wanted to come and the vice president wanted to come here's the vice president it was four years ago. All of you gathered here made it possible for America to have a fresh start. You knew we could be strong again. You knew we could be prosperous again. You knew we could have a president who put America first, again, and in twenty sixteen. You elected President Donald Trump to the white. House. And think of all we've done. We revived this economy through cutting taxes, rolling back, regulations, unleashing American energy and fighting for free and fair trade. and. After years of budget cuts, this president rebuilt our military. We restore the arsenal to democracy and we're once again giving our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines. And Space Force the resources that they need to defend this nation every day. We stood up for the rule of law for our most cherished liberties. This president has seen with your support. More than two hundred men and women confirmed to our federal courts at every level, and they are all conservatives who will uphold the god-given liberties enshrined in our constitution like the freedom of religion, the freedom of speech and the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. One more for the most compared the message of what's coming this week to what we saw in Delaware last week how do you see a differing? I think the choice in this election is clear. The American people are going to see a great contrast you have. President trump who said that? We're we're not going to shut this economy down again into hear Joe Biden actually talking about shutting down our country again just shows how out of step he is with the progress that we've all made as a country I know Joe Biden last week the democracy is on the ballot will president trump and I believe that the economy is on the ballot. Future of this country is on the ballot law and order is on the ballot and where to take that case the American people. You cannot say you listened to Mike Pence's performance, and all of the the Kabuki theater from pundits over the last year is the president of dropping the president of droppings. The residue Guinea he'll is the president going to get somebody else. The vice president every time he speaks dispels those rumors the vice president is so capable. So competent is such a promoter of the president and is so trusted by other people. There's no way the president was going to abandon the vice president and I'm glad we've reached the convention in the nominations and stuff, and we can ditch that nonsense It really is a was a silly conversation going on and I'm I'm glad to be rid of it. Let's go divulge ray calling from making ray how are you? Doing well, how are you? I'm good. What's going on? Well, look I heard you talking earlier. Actually someone called me and said that you were talking earlier about the homeless And, feeding homeless folks and I wanted to invite you to come down to Housing Avenue to location we have in banking where we prepare meals for the homeless and on Sunday. We feed around one hundred almost folks and and you people in the South Macomb Community and as well as downtown and we're coming up on an anniversary for the seven will be our fifteen years. We've been doing this and making we underneath a underneath a flag because we just don't I don't need a Lotta. I just need to feed some folks and the ministries called scrambled eggs for Jesus and. I would love to invite you to come on Sunday. The servants come around six thirty and we began to prepare the food. And then we serve it out around a quarter to nine. A. Quarter to eight, and usually we're gone by eight thirty, a quarter tonight and we'd go downtown and we find some folks homeless folks walking around. We've got one simple phrase. Are you hungry? And when they say, yes, we jump out of the car we hand them a box of grits, scrambled eggs, sausage, and those pancakes give them water bless and move onto the next person while that's fantastic. Okay. So let let me ask you a question. Are you calling from your cell? Phone? I am okay. I got your number I'm we'll give you call. Is. Probably going to be this afternoon but I wanNA give you call but I. Scrambled eggs for Jesus I like that name. And we're on the facebook so you can look it up on the facebook. You can see what we do. We've got a little Kobe nineteen because we had to change our protocols in the way we do it, but normally, we would have everybody come in jammed sit down and then have an opportunity to give them a word of hoping encouragement about Jesus Christ and then we didn't really go downtown because I had leftovers I began to go downtown and I found a whole nest of of people and and the homeless situation and making this growing because they're well taken care of and make it. There is one thing about making Georgia they Homeless people or gain weight. Like that, they're well taken care of, but the distill terrible need for some counseling and some and some other needs that need to be met on a personal level for the homeless and making. But at the same time you want to help them along they need to either grow in in or port success or they need to. Find a place where they can be secure at to mini and making his erling stoops. They're they're disrupting business and you know it's not too long before we were gonNA, cry out about how many they have. So along with daybreak and other groups and organizations they are well taken care of and making them. We're not proud to see the different groups of people that work towards that but. Invited me. You question about that actually because whenever I bring these sorts of things up, I know the question I get most often when this comes up from people who may not understand the situation is. Is that not in creating an incentive for them to stay if they're that well-fed. Absolutely, absolutely, and and but you don't want you got a fine line you're working with their, you want to help them along but you don't WanNa kick them out either I mean making doesn't need to be listen genuine about what we're trying to do as far as help them. But at the same time, homelessness should not be a career path. We should be working on other ways to help them up and help them out and and should be requirements to with a lot of, and that'll that'll take care of a lot of people. He's not put requirements they tend to move on Luke other places but you know that's just sending your problem somewhere else or but. Really, the the homeless situation and making can be defined as people that are that are have substance abuse problems, people that actually have mental abuse problems or mental problems, and then there's those people that actually are down on their luck with a little help in a little encouragement if he can get them going, they're gone they'll they'll. They'll be successful and they'll move on but you still got that Core Group of folks that are still mentally ill and have substance abuse problems. And those are the ones that really the ones Jesus tells us to love. Those are the ones we gotta help out. So I don't know what the answer is to that part of it but yes, you need to have some requirements help people move cheap movie. Ray. Look I'm so glad you called in I I got your number I want to Give you call this afternoon. I would frankly honestly ray you know and I didn't mean to keep you this long but I feel like now I gotta get my kids involved in some ways walk got up my buddy Jason who gets his kids down to one of the soup kitchens in making Jesu his kids in that world and I just I feel like I gotta get them involved in some way. I got a perfect place for them to come and see people that are are totally homeless but they're they're they're poor and it's a good place to start and I have plenty of things for them to do you know handing the plate to the person making I contact and smiling and saying, bless you a handing the water to them when we were in the gym and actually doing the serving the jam whether I had kids stand in one way put butter on the grits and other one cheese grits and other one would would scored jelly. On their toes and other one would score pancake syrup. So everybody had an opportunity to to to have ownership and be there and serve and be able to look at people smile and they exchanged pleasantries and make for a really good opportunity for children to see how blessed they are. They've got mom and dad, and they're their living well, and they've never gone without food. It doesn't hurt them to see that there are people in our community that are living on the line or living on the edge and It doesn't it doesn't hurt anybody to help. Well listen our leave their raith. Thank you so much for calling in and I will I'll give you call. I'm. I. Never scrambled eggs for Jesus is the charity in you know there is a balance and if you're wondering what, why, why, Ray and I are talking the first this hour I wanted to get away from the convention in talk about some of the people bothered by. So much of what's going on in the country in in, you got to actually seek the welfare of the community which you live and I didn't know scrambled eggs, for Jesus, was a thing and I, live in Macon. So I'm delighted to know now you know what? I don't WanNa make an awkward transition there and get back to politics I'm GONNA take a commercial time out and when we come back I wanNA play some of the president soundbites from last night at the convention he wanted to speak every night I told you was concerned with how he was GonNa, do it but he turned out they did it very very well. All right the president in his own words last night One of those moments was the president talking to a covert survivors in first responders obviously the the music they. Are. Not, wearing masks, you know they do have rapid tests, they screen people with the white. House, this was actually funny line and it caused all the right heads to explode, and by the way I've used that phrase several times today it just what I mean is there are predictable people who peddle outrage on TV who you know when the president does certain things they're going to lose it, and this is one of those things that caused them to just lose their minds police officer in Inglewood Colorado handbag contracted Kobe in late March and recovered. That means we don't have to be afraid of you. Once you recovered. We have the whole thing with plasma happening. That means your blood is very valuable. You know that. Right. Thank you very much. Great. Please detention Kirk county shirt for Mount California. And I also contracted Cova in the march and recovered from that. Also, how long has your problem? I was sick about ten days. Really bad. I got everything but size a cough. But recovered I. was off work for a month and a half and I work in our local county jails. DID THEY ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY TO HELP YOU RECOVER Z pack medication? Coster okay and I won't even ask you about the hydroxy chloroquine. It's a shame what they've done to that one. But I took it. I took the Z pack also and Zinc I wanNA thank you all very much. It's an honor to have you in the White House you're fantastic people and the people you represent you represent an incredible group of people and We love you all. Thank you very much. I gotta ask The the president saying he took Drexel. three mice in zinc. Did the president have the virus. And I don't mean to be conspiratorial about I don't but why would you take drugs of Corcoran or is it in zinc which is the prescribed treatment for people who may have the virus if you don't have the virus in, you know there was a time there earlier this year where people were saying the president is something was going on was there something going on with his health He seemed sick. And I'm just I I I don't know mere speculation on my part but agency he he did take directly cork what he says and and he turned out fine what other one on the president showing up a surprise the the people actually in the crowd he showed up in Charlotte I wanNA. Thank. Kirby. And the incredible people I just met farmers and wonderful business people and really humanitarian incredible people. I'm thrilled to be at the flavor, first growers packers facility here in the Great State of North Carolina Uh. You Know Joe Biden. was supposed to be in Wisconsin but he never showed up. I showed. Fact, we count our our vote. We did here in North Carolina in Charlotte a little while ago. I was there. It was a great exciting moment actually. I just look I I liked the president Doing stuff like this because you know he does have a very good sense of humor I the you know I talked to the president of the president called me when I was actually out, I was in English side pizza here in making those of you who who live in middle Georgia probably been there. It's kind of a classic restaurant in middle Georgia grade pizzas been around since I was in college and we were sitting there late one night and the president just randomly called it was the unknown number. And I kind of suspected it was him because he'd called a couple times before and I pick up the phone you know that story from the impeachment inquiry where is the president called someone there at a restaurant and everybody could hear him talk so loud on the phone I the president called me we're this restaurant it's it's loud in there and I swear to you every one of the restaurant can hear when I answer the phone and say, just this is Eric it's favor president he actually that's how we actually answer the fold or that-that's how he responded when I said this is Eric your favorite president. You know stuff like that is actually it's very funny it's it's the site if you don't see and it's the side of the president they they really really really wanted to highlight and emphasize at this convention to try to humanize him particularly with what the Democrats were doing Jill Biden last week more importantly though they wanted to highlight that the president you may not like him, but you're going to like his policies and that the policies are what matters and they were very they were fairly explicit in owning that contrast one more for the president. The worst year they've had in decades and decades, and we had the best year we've ever had. But we took in billions from China. We never took in ten cents from China never took in ten cents they took China for twenty five years not only Obama for twenty five years. China was taken in anywhere between two hundred billion with a B. and five hundred, fifty, billion dollars from the United States. 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Edward Norton  On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn (#393)

The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss

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Edward Norton On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn (#393)

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His most recent film motherless Brooklyn which he wrote directed produced and stars in will be released on on November. I I've seen it and I do not say this lightly. It is spectacular based on one of my favorite books and we dig into that and get into a lot related to creative process creative struggle and so on in this episode people mostly Know Edward for his acting but he has a substantial oh parallel career as an entrepreneur investor and activist in both technology and environmental sustainability ventures. His hit a lot of home runs. We don't cover over that in-depth in this episode talk about it here and there as one example in two thousand ten Norton Co founded and was chairman of crowd rise. A charitable crowd funding platform performance raised more than five hundred million dollars for US nonprofit organizations before being acquired by Gofundme me the largest social fundraising platform in the world for which Norton now serves serves on the board. He also co founded Ideo which applies advanced data science and machine learning to the analysis of audience engagement signals for the media and advertising industries. Edo's data and software are used by every major film studio in their meteoroid. Titian planning and virtually every major television network now includes ideo data alongside had Nielsen data within their pricing metrics. He is the Founding Board Member of the Maasai Wilderness Conservation Trust and award winning Kenyan conservation and Community Development Organization and and in two thousand and ten. He was appointed the first United Nations goodwill ambassador for biodiversity. Edward really seems to do it all and in this wide ranging conversation explore or how. He does that why he does that. Why he feels able to change chapters in his life? We go deep into as I mentioned creative process creative creative struggles both inside and outside film. If you'd like more Edward after this episode you can listen to my two thousand sixteen interview with him. which is very very different at Tim? Dot blog forward slash Edward and take my word for go. Check out motherless Brooklyn in theaters if just for the musical on it's absolutely outstanding. What's up with that said without further ado please enjoy a very wide-ranging and for me superfund conversation with Edward Norton Edward Welcome back to the show? Love being here. You know I love our conversations man and we have a lot to talk about and I want to start with going back in time to nineteen ninety nine and this is an interview where I'm going to ask you questions but I wanNA share share some autobiographical sketch from my own life. So nineteen ninety nine. My mom recommends book to me and my MOM IS I. I would go so far as to say a book Snob in the best way possible. She recommends me preps one book every two or three years and in the span of two weeks is my brother who is exactly the same recommends the same book which was motherless Brooklyn and it became a favourite book. I read it multiple times and for ages. I thought to myself why hasn't a movie a a film adaptation of some type been made and I wanna know how you came across motherless Brooklyn in I believe ninety nine or thereabouts and what impact had or why it grabbed your attention. Sure till I was I was living in New York. I was like new. York actor started working in films but I would always split back home to New York and I came up with a lot of people in theater and people who were writers and people who are artists. And there's kind of that. The thing I love about New York is the density of it. You're it's not like a company town like La Great Great One and I think I was at a party in the village and someone I knew Who Knew Jonathan Letham got we were talking and and she said the Jonathan Lethem and I said sure sure? Yeah he's at Brooklyn Writer. Who did this net and on? She said he's a friend of mine and he's got this new book coming out about a terrific detective who has obsessive compulsive disorder also and and his Trying to solve the murder of his boss Austin Brooklyn and I stopped. You had me terrific I like. I literally said terrific. I was in -tective active. I'm I'm an salivating. I'm I'm I have to read it and So I I somehow got connected to Jonathan. I persuaded I got the book. In Galley form. It hadn't been published yet And and you know revealing our age I I it was it was xerox. I had I got a xerox a clip binder and for those on the podcast who are young nerdy techiques. Who Don't know what Xerox's before pdf you actually had to print something on paper on a copier copier? And so I had. I had a paper you know bound xerox copy of it and I read it in one go and you know. It's it's funny because I when I really think about why did grab me so much. It's very similar to the experience I had reading catcher in the Rye for the first time it Lionel. The character motherless Brooklyn has many of the same same emotional hooks that I think Holden Caulfield does you by the end of page one. You're you're on his side you know you're sort of because he's narrating his own story to you because from the first sentence he's telling you this is how my head works and you can hear the calm. Rational mind at the center of the story. When he describes this chaotic a condition that he has that that he has to spend his life navigating you Jonathan Letham he he pulls off the thing that we all tried to do in books in art and music which is the end of page one? You're emotionally bought in your your hooked up to you relate to this character you feel for him. You have empathy but you're laughing you're sympathetic. You're impressed it's just like he does. It's zero to sixty emotional buying. That's very very rare. You know you you you relate in in in the most reductive sense you you and then from there it becomes this this study of the mind and how it works and the fact that his condition is extreme that he has the physical twitches of threats the the mental obsessive compulsive components of it the vocalisations that are that he can't control that are both hilarious and painful and awkward and make life difficult for him. We don't we don't all have Tarazi's let's but I think what Jonathan Achieves is. Everybody sees themselves in it because we all are constantly in a conversation with our own minds. We all have a rational center that deals with our behavior and are are noisy. Voices that tell us to do things we know. We don't WanNa do you know. We all relate to being essentially in an argument with ourselves and with the impulses that we wish we could control better so turrets is threats becomes This it becomes comes this sort of he and Lionel they become a proxy for us. You know and are are the difficulty we have navigating ourselves and that just nailed nailed me. It just like I was. I was completely entranced by it and honestly as an actor. I just was greedy. I was like I want that Gig. I want the part no I want. I want to be because not because it was like. Oh this is instantly you know showy it was more. This is hard. How would you do this you know how do you it presents? All the media's challenges for an actor. It's paradoxical oh it's actually physically demanding you have to see the humanity of the character underneath it and it just was like this would be a field day I would really like to play roll. Okay so let me hop in for a second here because I really want to underscore a few things that you said that struck me about the the book and also about the film and if I'm misquoting you here I'm going to quote you quoting someone else but in one of the interviews I read in prep for this. Even though we know each other I've found you referencing a CS Lewis Line from shadowlands. We read to know. We're not alone and I think that as you said Lionel Lionel on on one hand is such an unusual character but on the other is very usual in that he represents this This schism that we sometimes feel about our outer an inner worlds or or perhaps even dueling in our world right. And I'm not echina- I'm not going to give any spoilers in this but he then references parts of himself as Bailey right he has. Yeah and we we. We kept in the film. It's one of the real. It's one of the. It's one of the details of the book. That's really marvelous. where the his condition the part of his head? That has the inhibition the lack of innovation and the impulse control you know Problems in literally fights fights fights his his conscious self fights the attempts to restrain it and calls Him Bailey. So he's it's so it's such such a schism that that when he yells sometimes the voice in his head yells at him and names Him Bailey. It's it's And you think you think about the ways we talk in our head like you think about about the number of times that you've said quietly in your head you're such a fucking idiot like why you know. Think about the critical voice in your head aimed at yourself it. It's literally right out of it you know and you being a meditative the noisy mind right. It's like the noisy easy mind literally given given name given form given voice. It's like it's not just that we can't stop our thoughts. It's that we actually have a piece of our head that criticizes the the actions. That another part of our head is is you know implementing. It's a it it's amazing. It's an amazing thing that we live with and most people don't discuss openly or actively as a a phenomenon. You know it's It's it's also it meaning the film. I'll be honest. Initially even though I know how skilled you are I was I was very nervous to see the advanced screening because this book okay so dear to me and it's on top of that in some ways are very hard film to pull off and you you you not only pulled it off and and we'll certainly spent some time on creative process which I want to get to in a second but you made some decisions that I think strengthened the the not just the main characters but the humanity and the drama and the tension and everything that goes into the storyline itself to to zoom in on the on the the the creative process which I really know very little about. I don't know the backstory but if we look at nine hundred ninety nine then we jump forward ten years two thousand nine ten additional years two thousand nineteen when we're recording this. When when did this catch for you when did it? Actually we start to happen because you out. I just want to point out to people wrote produced directed and starred in this film. That's a lot a lot of concentrated effort soup. What did making this film look like? It went in phases is an in some total. There's no question that the most work I've ever put into a film. It's one of the. It's one of the deepest dives lives and longest climbs. How whatever metaphor you WANNA use? I've I've worked on this one longer and deeper than you any creative piece of I've worked on The initial hook as I said was character. I was then busy for a while. I I had a lot of other projects that I knew would really gonNA take me a couple of years before I had the bandwidth to really seriously contemplate it but much like you know as a function of what we're discussing the brain works on things you you're you're busy doing other things but I was noodling on it. It was rattling around in my head. I would reread the book I would think about the character I even when I wasn't actively trying doc to write it even started to sort of like try to imagine the physicality of it. And how do you take something. That's an interior monologue in a book and and reduce it down in select pieces of it and what are the best pieces of Lionel in. My brain was kind of cooking on that for years but when I got around to saying to myself all right actually what happened was in about two thousand three in two thousand two. Sorry I did a run of work. I did Did A big film. I did Red Dragon With a bunch of great actors and I did Spike Lee's the twenty fifth hour and then I did a play in New York for the rest of the year I did out Lanford. Wilson's burn this and it was such a the whole year was it was an amazing year. It was a it was it was a very notably vital and satisfying year of creative work for me I worked with amazing people. I worked with heroes of mine like Spike Lee. I did I did. Two films in with Phil Hoffman and and then we did play next door. What do each other and we'd come up together and that was really gratifying? I I I I kind of got to the end of that year and I felt something very a rare for me which I sort of felt satiated. I actually felt like I spent the whole year working in a gear. Sure that I'd wanted to work in for a long time and I felt like I'd run a marathon very successfully and it it was sort of like why run another five miles until it hurts. I feel good I what am I gonNA do. Do I wanna just like keep going until something goes badly you know and I kind of got this moment of clarity where I was like. I need to take a break. I Really WanNa take a a substantial break and in two thousand three I just. I stopped working entirely and I focused on getting my pilot's license and I I did that for like six or seven months. Just trained did aviation Asian training and and got my pilot's license and it was it was great. It really cleared my head it really It emptied it out and I sort of got to the end of that and I thought I'm ready to work. Where Camels Brooklyn so I I? I had this nice sort of clean slate kind of feeling and when I sat down to look at it again I realized there there was some issues with turning it into a film because it's very interior monologue. The whole book is kind of this interior narration and it has a plot but really it's like Lionel and he's had Edward. Could I ask pause for one second. You taking that break and we're GONNA come right back to where you left off but I would imagine that there were people people who said this is not the time to take a break. Your Red Hot. This is when you should commit to. ABCD or e perhaps. Not but there are many people who fantasize. It's about taking such a break. But never do. They can't shift out of six gear. was that hard for you. It was a little bit. It was a little bit but I I've had good examples in my life. My you know. My Dad is like an incredibly accomplished person in multiple dimensions you know. He's a scholar and marine veteran and a lawyer. He was a corporate litigator he was a US attorney he was you know. Federal Prosecutor for Maryland. He was an environmental litigator. He was environmental organization builder. He's worked at a private equity firm. It's like he's really A. He's had a remarkably rich tapestry in his career. There's connectivity through all of it there's intellectual connectivity there's a values mission driven kind of thread to everything he's done but I've really watched my dad over the years. Very fearlessly pulled the video game cartridge out and put another one in he really. Hasn't you remember when we were kids and you had your Atari sorry cartridges for play tanks or am I gonNa play like you know what was it combat it was called combat. Right or you or you're gonNA play on the whatever He I've seen him have what I would call the pleasures of staying very the feeling Challenged fresh invigorated about what he was doing. Through phases says of his adult life and and I kind of learned to view those changes as as not not as risky but as like refreshing. You know what I mean I I saw even as a kid you absorb you absorb when your parent is turned turned on by what they're doing you know and I i. I literally remember the new spring in his step. His enthusiasm being charged up in in it. I think as you get older and you have kids yourself you you forget. Almost how important it is how much a child perceives about whether their parents are happy. You know what I mean. It sounds like most obvious thing in the world but I I had an awareness that my dad's happiness was often pegged Egged to making bold shifts in the way he was spending his time and I I felt like I'm one of the luckiest people in the world. Because I get to work I get to. Do you know work or make a livelihood out of something that is play for me. It's it's and the last thing I wanted to do when I kinda meditated on it was why do I wanNa why do I wanNA turn this into a career. You know what I mean. Why would I turn Nisa in to something where it's exhausting me or it's Y- you know what am I? What am I chasing? Leg if I'm satiated or if I've just achieved like the things I want to. What what what a waste it would be if I if I if I make myself a careerist copper top? You know what I mean. And and and and what a waste if I don't see is while I'm thirty years old on the freedom to the freedom to the comes with this Gig of the freedom to like get a pilot's license you know what I mean and those were dreams I had to I. I dream my whole life getting my pilot's license and I was like a got the money now. I've got the time what's my reason for not doing it. I don't have one so And then we get back to the voices in the head. Royce's coming ahead. Voices of insecurity voices of competitiveness. Competitiveness voices of aspiration Ambition maybe more than aspiration unlike ambition to for ongoing plaudits affirmation applause. You know like the the the hunger for for achievement it they come in the head and not to mention the. There's the voices voices from outside but really the truth is like the ones that master you are the ones inside. They're the ones that are saying like you know you're GonNa you know you need to get more of this or I think it comes. It comes in but piloting was really good for me. It was really good to not Take a break and just kind of like go on vacation or lounge around because I replaced the consumption in my work with the consumption in learning like in my brain piloting was like one of the hardest things I ever took on. You know it was like it made. It honestly made the work I'd been doing. Feel Kinda like play. Play acting which weirdly it is. It is you know like it's like oh making up stories and playing dress up for a living or like hurling myself into the sky by myself in a plane with you know ultimate consequences to screwing it up. You know what I mean. It's like it's like great creative. Risk and risk of botching landing or not are not not actually equivalent perspective. You know what I mean. 'cause I've always found I get some of my my best sort of for me like I get him. Think we talked about this the first time I did your show. I think we talked about like the things things that are meditative. That are not sitting with your legs crossed trying to clear your mind. You know what I mean. We did because we were sitting on a pier looking at threat correct surfers Amer talking about the role. That's played in your life so pot piloting great meditation for me absolutely eradicates. It's everything but the present moment is very very very difficult to be out of the present moment and there's a function in it. That's really interesting. which is a they take off and landing in particular? I'm sure there's a metaphor in this somewhere. But taking off and landing are extremely extremely focus things even for a modern airline pilot in a plane that basically flies itself. You are seriously on deck when you're taking off and landing that plane and I think the experience is so intense. It's almost like this. It almost does what sometimes it takes me. Forty five minutes of meditation to get anywhere near which obliterates atomised distraction right because you you must deal with that moment in in which there's very little margin for error if something goes wrong and it sort of atomised as your distraction then you get yourself up into the sky and you're floating and somehow that atomization sustains I don't find myself stressing once I'm on autopilot and I'm floating along. I looked down at the landscape going. I think about it's real Daniel Conman thinking fast thinking slow like once I'm up in the air and I'm kind of ahead of the plane I get get into a very slow slow gear and a very meditative. You're just watching the landscape. Go by and it's it's wonderful. It's like really really really wonderful for me and I think It's I get that surfing scuba diving. But it's amazing. How quickly piloting kind of straightens you out straightens your head out so you you've finished is this incredibly productive sprint with acting? You take this sabbatical medical of sorts to focus on piloting which sounds very therapeutic and holding you in the present tense for much of the practice you you come out with a clear mind and you take another look at Marvelous Brooklyn and you're realizing there's some challenges challenges as you mentioned one of them translating an internal dialogue in words on a page into something. Cinematic what else. What else were you you pondering turning over in your head as you reexamined brothers Brooklyn because it is not an easy book to turn into a film no will? Sometimes I think people don't even realize the degree to which the sound mix and the music or make or break for film. You can have a film that's cut. The same film won the Academy Award for Best Picture. With a bad sound. Mix will seem like a pieces shit like it it really. It is astonishing. How important that the layer of varnish is on the whole thing and you can't adapt a book into a film? A book is not AH film. It's just not it functions in the mind of the reader in a totally different way because you are activating imagery in your head you know much much more. Surreal way than when you're receiving the sensory you know being encompassed compass by By visual and sound in film and you have to you have to. You can't think about I think. Faithful adaptations almost. Never work. If you're trying trying to literally transliterated the book into a verbatim as close to verbatim thing in those the worst film adept at the very best ones. I think are literally like they're like transposing piano concerto for guitar. You know you have to completely change the The wave form of it and my favorites are ones where you know like out of Africa. which is a film by a truly great director? Can you pollack with one of the great performances by an actress ever and it really holds up. It really really holds up when you watch it. Not only technically but also fanatically in terms of being film about loss and the desire to hold onto things in possess them and coming to an acceptance of loss and in permanence. It's a really really really beautiful film. And it's based on in theory Isaac Dennison's memoirs out of Africa and Shadows on the grass. There's none of the narrative plot that's in the film is embedded within the book. It's her those are memoirs the whole romance the things these are all set positional national date they springboard from the essence of her sort of spiritual observations and meditations on impermanent and they created a story from whole cloth. You know it it. And that's why it's a great film. They understood what the essence was and they turned ended into a narrative and cinematic experience. It's totally its own thing and Jonathan lethem not only loves films. And he's very he he really held holds that believe that that it better to springboard in create something new unto itself so when I said to him like look we've got to deal with certain structural challenges in this one of them is that models Brooklyn has a slightly surreal tone in the sense instead. It's about guys in the modern world. Who feel like they're living in a pocket of Brooklyn that has never mood from nineteen fifty seven and they speak and act like almost like Raymond? Chandler's gumshoe detectives but if you slap that under the screen and have guys in Fidora's talking that way with practices floating by you. Who are you have you have immediately? Put yourself in an ironic mode right you've you. You're centrally saying we're being tongue in cheek here. Nothing needs to be taken seriously. And if you go in that gear then Lionel doesn't have to be taken seriously either and his two reds is now a gag not a complex person. It's IT'S A. It's a wink wink. Kind of a gag because the rest of the thing is a wink wink gag and I didn't WanNa do motherless Brooklyn like the Blues Brothers you know what I mean. I didn't which is great movie. That's just you know not what I thought it had within it I wanted to play Lionel Straight and I wanted him to be a rich complex. Flex sometimes poignant and affecting and you know A human being whose loneliness Israel whose isolation nation Israel alongside his humor and stuff. And if you if we played it ironically. That wasn't going to be there and so I said Jonathan like you know in the book. Look people call him freak show. Would people really do that in one thousand nine hundred nine. You know what this feels like is maybe maybe let's set it in the hardboiled world of the books. You love the films. We love and let it D- A fifties and amazingly. Jonathan was like I dig that idea. You know he wasn't eat no he really was. He wasn't like for one second. He I mean. Think about that you write a book. People say they love love it and then someone comes along and says hey what if we were to transform it like literally said it in a different time and therefore have to come up with UN different mystery plot because the book is about the Yakuza. The Japanese Sea Urchin trade. Zen does and all these things that are highly contemporary a even though there's an old school feeling to the new are sort of vernacular and without and he was like I love it. You know he's like I love it like let's treat him like Marlowe and send Lionel into another mystery and he was like I. I think it's a cool idea and it's it's very I I can't really overstate how rare it is for someone to be that broad minded about their own piece of work you know. When did you have have that conversation with him? Roughly was that yeah somewhere somewhere like almost like five years after he published the book. I got it so this would have been after. You've revisited it after after the piloting can a two thousand four two thousand five period and somewhere Honestly somewhere in flying around over southern California -fornia can't do things. I had this kind of clarity that like that. This that the way around what I was feeling like a tone problem was just simply said it in the fifties and that and once that once that things sort of settled in me and I knew Johnson was okay with it. Then something really interesting happen. which is something else that I had been chewing on for a long time? Totally unrelated motherless Brooklyn was my fascination with what happened in New York in the mid-fifties this really dark part of New York's social history. That was really really interested in and in one person in particular this kind of Robert Moses Moses and always thought to myself how do you approach that. How do you approach coach? How do you approach the density of what was going on? It's and I and I had sometimes thought it's kind of like the way that Chinatown is about stealing L. A. being built on stolen water. I always thought like what happened in New York under Robert Moses historic of its own original Sanity Dark History in the twentieth century. But yeah it's too dense. Though it's all this urban planning stuff and Blah Blah Blah and. I had this moment where I suddenly went. That's what Lionel Lionel can be the conveyance into Lionel can we can take Jonathan's phenomenal detective and we can send him in in a movie which has has to be bigger house to have bigger scope. We can send him into this into this he can become the conveyance into this very dense and complex thing On that I was also interested in and suddenly suddenly I had this like You know this mash up this this idea of mashing up so these. Two Things Suv Robert Moses for people won't spend a we don't need to spend a ton of Moses but as I watched whether it's Brooklyn Glenn I wondered it had to be in a way right how could it not be a Robert Moses incarnate in this film played by Alec Alec Baldwin and for for those who might have some passing through the name. Robert Moses is the subject of a book called the powerbroker also very very very Very good book by Robert. Caro and there's a whole chapter on him to in the in the Burns documentary called New York. There's a there's a big section which was that was my first encounter with the story of Moses. This was in a new documentary New York but yeah he was and he was. He was titular Lee. He was the Parks Commissioner but secretly. He was essentially darth vader of New York in the twentieth century. He held an almost uncontested. Imperial power our over New York City above any mayor. Any governor he He Ran New York City like a like an autocratic. Caesar and Dan made almost all of the significant decisions. About how New York evolved from being a nineteenth century city into being a modern city. He the the whole physical landscape Newark's transformation in that era was directed by him. Speak speaking of directing as I mentioned earlier you you wrote produced directed in started this film. Did you want to do from the outset. All of those things or was that a byproduct of challenges ages you ran into or is there some other origin story. And I'm just wondering how it came together. No directing I I wanted to like. I said I'm I'm not really totally joking. I was kind of. It was a greedy actor impulse to grab a great role. I really thought this is a really memorable character in. It's great great challenge. It's everything I love to try to take on and it was like it's one play this part than I did. I was turned on by the challenge of adapting it and then I ran into that went through this process that we've talked about and when suddenly I kind of had this. What was for me exciting idea about the mash up and I had Jonathan's hall pass House to be that sort of freewheeling in it I spent a lot of time than researching and working a non how to make kind of a literary Mash up That between books but really just of motherless Brooklyn but conveying it into sort of a literary version of this history and and once I was finished that which took me a long time like many a number of years because I went through writer's block and I and I got hung up on the plotting and I got distracted by other projects but when I finally got it done took a solid eight years I would say for me to get to where I was happy with it then. I reached a point where I was in my own mind going to shop at around two directors that I admired but someone you know did something. Good good for me The studio executives that I was friends with actually sat me down in a bar in New York on Twelfth Street and was like. Do you need to direct us and I was sort of like a hub at the part is really challenging in and and he literally said to me. Look think about the movies that we it came up. On the matter to us do the right thing reds Warren Beatty great film about American Socialists You know dances with wolves also in unforgiven like he kept citing all these examples of like sometimes an actor is really right for a role. It's really in their wheelhouse else. And they've come up with a story and they just do it you know they they take that big swing and and he was like kind of said to me like you know. Why wouldn't you do this? Why wouldn't you you've this matchup is yours? You don't WanNa sit over someone's shoulder older you know and he just was like you can do this and I kind of did have that moment where I went. You know what. Yeah why would night. I do love those films. They have meant a lot to me like some some of them were defining films for me and it was SORTA like I. He urged me across crossed the line into into getting excited about just owning it. You know and Win If were I don't into obsess on the time line but I'm so curious to get an idea of the time since this is such a longitudinal project right. I mean it's so when when did do you have that meeting with this executive who gave you the talking to related to directing the film roughly so if I was because normally I started a jumped in but but normally what happens to me and I'm sure happened to a lot of people as they have this backburner set of projects six but by and large in my case. I never come back to them so I'm fascinated by someone as busy as you are and certainly not just just with film you. Have you have many many hats that you wear a much like your dad in a sense. Very multifaceted how this Remained a project roughly. When did you had this conversation? I I probably started. I actually not probably I started actively writing at the summer of two thousand and three and I wrote like sixty or seventy pages of what became one hundred fifty page script and they were good. They were good. They were the beginning of the movie as it is now and and people really liked it like they were like this is really really cool and then I got horribly ably blocked I got it. Wasn't like distracting. I really I had it framed out and I had the things but I couldn't in my mind just sort of puzzle out offs a compelling way to get lost in the merck but emerged from it. You know what I mean. I do with this if I could call. John Ra Ra is the the getting lost in. The Merck is absolutely importantly. No you anybody who watches Chinatown and tells me the first time time that they they have any idea what's going on until about twenty minutes before the end of the movie is lying. You have no idea what's going on in that movie zero zero. In fact I've tracked it. There's a very specific scene where he's in the car with Faye dunaway where he finally married's his read of what he thinks this is going on and there's only about twenty minutes left in the movie and by the way he's wrong he he he. He thinks that what's going on is all about the water and of course it's about incest right And and that you know these homes that it's not about comprehension. The getting lost in deep conversation is actually part of the point which is which is an important point. which is that? It's hard to know what's taking place around you. It literally existential noir at its best is about how difficult it is to see where the dangers are around. You and where power is. Who's got the power you know that? That's that's what they're thematically adequately I think is their strength is they really do. Remind us there are things going on in the shadows that are that are antagonistic to us. And and that. If we don't figure out what's going on damage is going to get done. You know but I I wanted puzzle to make sense. Even you have to get lost but you have to know underneath it. What's really going on so that you can emerged from it or bring people out of it? In a way that is it all is satisfying and it does make sense in the end you know to some degree and it's got hung up and then I did that terrible thing. which is I put it in the drawer right point? I put it in the drawer and I was like I just need a break and then literally I got sent a really weird cool script called down in the valley and I decided I'm going to do that. I'll I'll do it quick. I was like I'm GonNa do that. Really quick it's a little independent film or do out quick none of come right back to this right and then than I did the illusionist and then film I had been working on for years to pull together came together. The painted Veil Naomi. Watts got free in. She wanted to do it in suddenly. Like a making a film for six months in Prague and then I'm making a film for six months in China and time just starts to roll by and your mind gets further and further from the thing you're working on and it just one thing after another kept coming in and then that thing in the drawer that you haven't figured out becomes more and more and more of a block of lead. It's just like doc it's not an active thing and I think the same person who later helped me embraced it. I should directed had a certain in point called me and was like hey there's other people who are interested in this. I think maybe Initially let someone else take a crack at it and I don't even know if that was is true. I have a feeling might have just been sticking a fork in me but it worked like and actually he was the studio executive who at that time was running new line And he actually did something that I laugh at. In retrospect which is he cited a specific director director to me who I think he knew the idea of giving up my project that person specifically was gonna make my skin crawl. Paul like end he just whether it was conscious or not. He hit me with exactly the right piece of information from my resolve to get very very strong again and I I took it out and and he. He did kind of put a deadline on me. He was like like look. You know we we've been sitting on this thing a long time and just person wants to do it and I was like no no no no no no no no no no no I talk about how about we just agree. How about we just agree like you'll get it done by Christmas or we'll start having a real conversation about like letting someone else take a crack jacket and it was? It was great it. I literally knuckled down and I pulled it out. I looked at it. I talked to some other writers with some focus who I respect puzzled it out cracked it and finished it really aggressively really. I wrote like I wrote my college college thesis. I wrote the large bulk of the rest of it in like two or three weeks of like long debate nights of just powering powering it through and then it was done very very helpful. Friend the anonymous executive toby. Keith Warner Brothers. Announced announced sounds very very Clever it may accidentally but very helpful clever helpful but also like you know Hollywood and the business of movies is sort of like inside baseball. I honestly I sometimes think it's probably very boring most people but I do think I do think it's it's always good to highlight. When when there's exceptions to sort of the the the reductive cliche about something and people in this day and age are constantly constantly talking about how studios you know? It's impossible to get original adult stuff made and everything but I had. I had this champion. Toby Emmerich it's been this incredible stalwart champion of my project for over a decade. Like a really long time encouraging me pushing me along helping the actually like get it through these mental block moments and then I actually got it done starting to try to figure out with me how to get it made. And he didn't have the collateral to get it made and then we went through this next period which was like five years of really struggling to to you know it. I like the produce orioles struggle. The writer struggle is over but the produce oriels struggle was at least five years of both of us hammering on it and trying every the equation of casting and financing and everything to get it made an all sorted throughout we were constantly worded. Let's let's sticken to thwart for a second here because I I would imagine that many people listening on some level or thinking. You're Edward frigging Jordan. Like why on Earth would you hit. These roadblocks what what what were the types of feedback or the the pushback that you experienced. And I'm not saying that I doubt it. I just think it'd be helpful. No and I'm curious to hear more about honestly. I think no one can ever take for granted that someone's just hand you money to make a film. I never know like it. It doesn't matter if you've been nominated for ten Academy Awards for it it. It doesn't matter it's risky it's risky and when someone's coming at you with I'm GONNA do a big scale. Nineteen fifties these period film about like a dense kind of the Chinatown story about New York City and its urban development. o Oh at the middle of it is a guy with Terrell Syndrome obsessive compulsive disorder. It's sort of you know rainman. meads Chinatown people is just it is start crossing and you cannot Chinatown L. A. confidential was much more accessible. It's it it is not rainman. He's he's got full on autism. It's forrest gump meets. La Confidential twenty meets L. A. Confidential. The more accessible accessible of both but people's eyes are just like you got your chocolate in my peanut butter peanut butter chocolate. They don't they're like what the hell are you talking about like you know it's really you're you're definitely like describing something in the trade. It's like to say that it's execution dependent. Pendant is a is a is understatement. Mo- mostly people are like. Oh please bring us the next one. You know what I mean It's an when you're saying people will you give me tens of millions of dollars to make this. You can't like walk around in a huff flake. How can this be so tough? I understood why it was tough I I understood why it was. It was tough and also like I oh I the upsides have not pursuing. Let's call it a careerist pursuing projects. Where my agenda was? Will this be one. The biggest movies ever is that you can make a lot of really excellent illnesses that you're proud of and that people end up not only loving but seeing is maybe almost like essential zeitgeist movies like fight club or twenty fifth hour or American ex. But those none of those movies were financially Ashley Successful. So it's not like I was walking around like you know like like some actor on a run of gigantic hits. Who's considered like you know of this guy's GonNa Open the movie at twenty million so we'll do anything he wants to do? You know what I mean. It's it's just not the the same and you can't unfortunately you you can't you can't collateralized Artistic Credibility into any kind of you know any any number you can you. Can you can do it in some measure. Sure and if I'd been willing to make if I'd been able to make motherless Brooklyn the way I wanted to for fifteen million bucks of budget I could. I could have done it the next day. Hey you know what I mean but I needed slightly more than that and so it was tricky. Tricky May Be I want to continue on the on the hunt for producers and production budget but may I ask you a question about writing process. See you pull out this dusty. We found pile of paper. That's been sitting in your desk. What is the first day of writing Look like do you. Just start spitting out anything that comes to mind and hopes that something good lands on the page. Where do you use a a different strategy? I mean I as someone who's put stuff on the shelf and I I find writing very very difficult and so if I if I let something thanks for a long time I might be able to go back and edit what. I've done very quickly. But the thing that struck fear in my heart that murky part that I couldn't quite find my way through may have been turned into a mountain in the meantime right like it's it's I've developed all these stories around why it it was hard how hard it was. What did the first day or the first few days of working on that look like and feel like you will the really interesting thing? was that when I read Ed Wood I had written. I forgot some of what I had written and I liked it like I was reading it as if someone else had written And it was making me laugh. You know I was I I kind of had this reinvigoration of of the pleasure of it ironically. 'cause procrastination does really weird thing to your head. When you when you push something off it starts to become monolithic? You know I I. I don't know what that is but it it becomes monolithic and then it just intensifies your desire to avoid it and it was it was it was fascinating to read. Read it and find and kind of have like this. This is so much fun like this is such fun language. The character cicle why but they had to give up on this and then in a funny way I went back to my cards because my issue wasn't a character issue wasn't the language it was just a plotting issue and I looked at my cards cards. You mean literally index cards for totally. Yeah and I sat down on a huge drug and a map them all out and I kind of looked at the node. That was like this with a problem and like I said I had a couple conversations I brought some people in that I trust and I was like really. I'm hung up on this whole thing over this. I did kind of almost just some Rubik's cube ing with some people and it was like like like. Oh wait a second. I'm over thinking this. This gets easily solved by just doing X.. Rate and then suddenly it was like Holy Crap Blake. That really. Wasn't that big deal at all. I just needed. I needed a few people in a room brainstorming and I did it with them. Brian Koppelman David Nice who were you know. Great Powell's great writers wrote Rounders Produce The illusionist. And it was Kinda like it was kind of like you know Iran them through it. They're they're obviously drift on this stuff and really just let them. As a sounding board threw ideas around you like our member David Libyan saying at some point like I said something they'd lead goes what's wrong with that was like you just said it like what's wrong with it like what's wrong with that. That's great you know and and I was kind of like. Oh that's you know. Is it that simple you know. And and it was like they helping. They helped me crack my own. My own blockage way. Such good guys just just to take a second for that. They're there to really really skilled and really really good. Human beings also co creators along with Andrew. Ross Sorkin of billions. Yeah yeah that's their their show and they're they're a great those guys some day They're like serious tradecraft pros. You know they really are like the UH their writers In the old school mode you know they and they were great. Helped me so They helped me punch through it. And then I went. And like I said I wrote the rest of it in kind of almost like a blitz and and It was great it. You know it's funny. I was actually thinking about as we've been talking about this. Sometimes I think guys don't acknowledge men especially maybe women experiences too. I don't I don't know by certainly see it in a lot of my guy friends like it's so stupid to be competitive native about some things but but in what we've been talking about. I can actually kind of recognized if I'm honest. I that two things happened. One is that when toby at one point said to me. I'm going to give someone else a crack at this. This was actually like the flaring of a very like you know Low a very low kind have primitive kind of competitive egg gro sensation in me. That galvanize me you know I I kind of was like you're not giving it to that guy. No no way a no way like this is mine and I'm like give me A. It was like it did kind of push me right. and that's not necessarily like a quality that that's a quality I would say. In general that I try to deemphasize were were cultivated out of myself like like competitive competitive at a competitive attitude within creative work. It's really stupid stupid and I think it can be really counter productive. I also think like around the culture of movies with award shows and all this shit. There's so much absurd like like construct of competitiveness that is beyond in authentic to anything to do with this kind of work. You know but I mean it's like it's like it's even more authentic to creative work in it isn't figure skating you know where it's like subjectively soaring figure Skating routine. It's like the idea that the idea that that the culture would construct like a a competitive matrix around Any kind of a creative forum which awards stuff is really like sort certifying. You know in some ways and I think but at the same time like it it galvanized me and it's funny because when we're talking about we're talking about flying Dick There's an interesting kind of component too which is say like oh well your insecurities come come in. I'm not working and you know People GonNa Forget about me. It just stupid stuff comes in your head but there's an interesting thing about doing something like getting good at flying are getting good at surfing which is like it drops through you into this kind of confidence and there's a component of that competitive too because in a weird away you go in your head as a guy. I used to go yet but I can do this right. It's like having a black belt. It's sort of like it's like you're listening to someone blather on about something in the back of your head going off a plane and landed. I mean it's like serious. Yeah I get it I get it totally got a you know again. Not the highest order of of motivation. But it it when you say like a lot of people don't do that a lot of people wouldn't take that break sometimes. I think if what you're doing is you're sort of. I don't know exercising your muscles souls or developing a musculature that you're proud of right if it's if it's like a component of yourself that you it's almost like you have a secret you have some secret skill or you have a thing it. It's interesting the way that it. It's interesting the way that it It dials down down the volume on on insecurities in general. You know what I mean I do it. I mean it really hinges. It seems to me on the stories you tell yourself which create the lenses of your reality in the sense that they they mold mold your perception of what you're doing and don't don't you. I mean have you've done so like when you famously like with with the you know when you were worked on kickboxing right. Yeah things or when you do any of the things. You've done to sort of demonstrate that with that you you can do things within body transformation learning dispute or anything right. Don't don't you on some level come away with it come away from detain. You know. I have a capability. Now that that I carry within me whether other people see it or not what that gives me like a kind of confidence one hundred percent one hundred percent which is why often recommend to people bowl even if they never have. The opportunity hopefully never have the opportunity to use kick. Boxing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu the martial art outside of practice environment that they should train because the way they will carry themselves through the world. Male female doesn't matter age doesn't matter will be different and there will be a certain quiet confidence that I think can be you built and added to with many different skills that demonstrate an ability demonstrate to yourself and ability to learn learn be self sufficient survive. Whatever it might be so it makes perfect sense to me and also the the motivation that you're talking about are the motivations be they good or bad somewhere in between putting aside the value judgment they are meaning they exist and in in the examples that you've a few examples you given You've been able to utilize them right. Harness them ultimately to it as as one example. Get the script on right so it's it's it's It's IT'S I. I was listening to to someone not long long ago. Talk about how they've shifted from looking at things on a value scale of good to bad as an experiment to one of beautiful or not beautiful. Like how can you take whatever. This motivation is whatever. This opportunity isn't turn it into something. Beautiful doesn't mean you. You ignore morality or good or bad but but as a thought experiment looking at things through that Lens. So you're able to take what might be looked at as a base primitive urge. This drive Dr and transmute it into oddly enough. I mean at the end product like something that looks very deeply at impulses send human nature true. I also think there's frustration at not being able to achieve some. Some goal is never pleasant rate great. We don't associated it just not a pleasant feeling. 'cause you sort of want what you want and especially if you think you've got the high minded or or only positive motivations you're sorta like It's frustrating not to get to do this with this project project. I definitely you know there was a period where it was it was always hovering it. Was it had a kind of an albatross kind of effect doc. On me in the sense that it was I wanted to do it. And I felt I had a good vision for it and did it could be unique And and and actually like be the kind of hypnotic movie experienced. It really reminds people bowl. This why we go to movies. You know what I mean And I really had all that conviction but then I was I was like bending my life it it was like it was like the shadow force. It was like a dark matter force in my life because it had this gravitational poll that would it. It would affect my decisions you know. I would sort of go. Well I could take another year off for the. You'RE GONNA point you know you were. You don't have kids and you're in a great new relationship and you say Oh will let's just take our surfboards and go but it's like Oh but this might you know I gotTa keep pressing on this because it might happen this year and it sort of it throws like like those old models of the universe where the black hole is you know taking the time space fabric and bending it you know that's how this was for me it was it was like bending the space time fabric of my life even though it was not happening in any en it. And there's this point where you have to kind of keep reassessing. Its like hell. How Long Am I gonNa let this? Mirage is this a mirage. Or is it a thing that I just have to persevere. And how long am I gonNa Chase as the Mirage. You know and and when you were shopping. I'm not sure if that's the right term but when you were Engaging in the produce Oh to sorrel southward challenges and pursuing that at that point. Were you confident that you could get made in that. It was going to get made or was it more of a test run to see. Were fishing trip to see what type of feedback you would get. How can I guess at that point? How convinced were you'd happen? Or how committed were you to sort of willing to happen I I. I had many moments where I thought This this is not gonNA work out the way I want it to I. You don't have. I don't have cards to win this hand. I'm I'm and I went through a couple things whereas like well. Maybe I will direct this now and go to another actor who I think we get. This movie made instantly and I think would be really great. You know but that kind of broke my heart a little bit selfishly I really felt connected to the character of land on. I kinda see my way in that but I just I just couldn't bite the bullet and make those phone calls you know I had a moment of this all went on so long that you know Netflix became a a big force. In the in the landscape of ways you get this stuff done and I could have walked over those guys who I think are awesome and I think gotten this done in in probably one conversation an I didn't have I wasn't negative on that I it was probably the thing I would have but I but I had a note it was before they had really started making commitments to putting things in the theater the way they did with Roma the way they did are doing with Noah Baumbach terrific movie marriage story and others. You know and and I I I didn't WANNA get hung up on sort of the lake. Almost like the pretension of saying I want to see this in the theater but I did I I just I. I wasn't quite willing at that point to surrender to the idea of of making it only for a streaming presentation like they did with Roma Done it in a heartbeat. You know like I think it's I'm not one of the ones whose negative on the way. They're approaching this stuff. I think it's really. I think there's a lot of really really new and diverse voices are getting a platform to tell stories because of their model you know. Oh slow I but it was a timing thing and I felt very low about it at times. Yeah very very a Not defeated but very discouraged and thought that it might be one of those things I just I just had sort of Science make a big pivot on or let go of and then A A a weird set of things started becoming emerging to me. Post two thousand sixteen. Toby Emmerich became head of Warner and he said to me like look. I'm not going to have this job in not make a couple movies I would. I really WANNA make. And and it's Warner brothers and we've got to make those movies. That's that's part of our tradition and yours is one of the ones I want to get done. And I'm going to figure out the absolute best deal I can give you to get it done. And you're going to have to find some of the money or a lot of money but we're gonna I will create a way that we can get this done which is amazing mazing zone? No no his his. There's a lot of people who have that job who don't have don't say now that I've got this job. I'm not going to tighten up. You know what I mean. I'M NOT GONNA play to be here forever. I'm I'M GONNA I'M GONNA use the position to do some of the things that made me want to get into this in the first place and he did immediately. He did with Bradley Cooper on stars born and he did with me. You know he he was like I'm they literally said like party. Tradition at Warner Brothers. We make like you know altered driven. Stephens Clint Eastwood's films were done there and they made Elliott confidential show and So that was a shift. And then also I got Bruce Willis Step Dannon Bannon stepped up for the movie that made a difference in I found a called a lot of chips. And figured out some very clever ways to pull together whether the co-financing alongside warner brothers we needed and suddenly started the tumble. I have to go ahead. Good Yak Jack have followed Gregg Post. Post two thousand sixteen. You've seen the film and even though I had written it. Essentially the way it is by by two thousand twelve. There was a lot about what changed after two thousand sixteen that suddenly toby was ringing me up and saying man a lot of what what is embedded in. This script is is staggeringly on point. right now in a way that it was not in two thousand fourteen annum and I think that maybe that was part of why when I was giving it to all these terrific actors and saying. I don't have any money for this I I have to have everybody like you know. Defer fees just work for love of the project but it felt toothy two people it felt in light of its moment more than it had a few years before and uh and I think it it exerted more of a gravitational pull on this incredible cast of actors and that helped me get it made to you have an incredibly star studded cast. You have in front of the camera you also have. I did a fairmount research. Prior to our conversation you also have a lot of talent behind the cameras and working on the film and other capacity's who were involved. You talked about deferring fees or having actors willing to defer payment in some fashion. You used Jeff. I think the phrase creative co-financing found creative ways to co-finance you feel free to not answer if if that's the best move but could you give even a hint as to what that means what because you can never You really can't hedge off the risk of an an individual film The only way you can do that is if like the way that Steven Soderbergh and channing. Tatum really brilliantly lately with Magic Mike realized like we can make this film for like under six million bucks and we can pre sell the foreign For more than the budget it and then we can own it. You know what I mean so like we can. We can start shooting the film knowing that we're in the black on it and therefore literally finance it ourselves and own it that you can you can hedge off. You can literally de risk of film if you can make it for less spend what you can pre sell the foreign on. That's the only way to to literally heads off all risk on a single film. All Right which is why. Like most co- financing companies are the ones with big bankrolls like legendary that can do big slate financing with the studio. Because you're you're you're essentially playing the portfolio right and historically studio returns have delivered a return like a positive return right so so if you're going to people in saying hey we put some money in my film you can talk to your blue in the face about why it's GonNa work but the bottom line is the numbers. Don't lie you you you. You're taking just a massive singular risk if you invest in one fell right but I I did a deal with some of my co financiers around basically I had access to the secondary trading on accompany a technology company that I was an original investor in and strategic advisor to and I I had a fund a Little Boutique Fund that was doing secondary trading in that company and and I and I basically basically set up a situation where some of the investors in life film had been looking at acquiring that company through their private equity firm. And I I. They couldn't but I I was able to essentially do a deal with where they could be of my LP's in in by By a stake through secondary a secondary deal in this company that they were very interested in and we all felt that at the we all felt that the the likely returns on that. Were such a shirt saying that that they considered it I basically told him. I'll get you access to this deal. You'll finance my film to and so I set up like a pair trade. I set up sort of like a can trade film and a position in this company. This is also a great example of where the cartridges in the top. The video game. That is the timeline of your multifaceted. Career paid off in really tangible. Way Right because you've got you've been exercising other interests developing other capabilities and knowledge wjr in a seemingly completely unrelated sector. That then allowed you in some ways to get done project in what many people view as your primary career over a period of twenty years to finally get it done. That's that's remarkable now. There's no question that might kinda parallel life Outside of my creative filmmaking life on this whole other dimension of my professional the life the is you know it's not a public facing component on my life One hundred percent the that ended up Unlocking the way to to get this passion project done. There's no no doubt about it. Yeah while and I think I can say that no film no film has has ever been financed off of the specific type of deal that we did for this one and and and I will. It's not replicable either. For me it. It was very very very unique situation and I am. I wouldn't don't even want to go through the headache of trying to replicate what we did on this because I think it was a little bit like Alex Donald I felt felt like I was. I felt like I was going up a pitch without a rope. And if I didn't get each each and every handhold perfect it was gonNA. It was GONNA be a a complete and utter. You know I was going to be a complete fail like like it was SORTA like I was either GonNa get to the top or the whole thing was gonna crash and burn completely. There was no there really was not And it was clean. Their Wigley wasn't an in between like an the bet paid off in every every way and end the beautiful about it was actually in a funny way. The the alliances I formed with people to get this done are thick now. You know there's like I really feel I really feel like a deep kind of alliance dance with the people who helped me achieve this. This long held dream and it's been I've been able to reciprocate. There have been ripple effects next to finally getting it done that. Were that were as as as meaningful as as the thing itself which is Great. How cool the The tour of duty that was put in to get it made is no joke and you mentioned theatrical will run and putting the film into theaters and I could make an argument and I texted. Do this right after I saw the film that even if the projector ceased to work and one were only able all to listen to the movie through a proper sound system like some of the sound systems in theaters. That would be worth much more than the cost of admission. Shen could you speak to the the soundtrack in the music and anything that you think makes it nowhere because I am not an audio file musician. I appreciate music. I enjoy it but I don't know the first thing about music theory or sound quality or anything like that and and yet the the audio experience was so different for this film compared to the last. Let's just call a dozen films. I've seen seen in theaters. Why is that well? I think the music and sound in many films is approached as what I would call emotional accelerator celebrator or just a an emotional enhancement of what is already taking place Within the text so the moment is obviously dramatic and the music reflects. That drama is violent and the music reflects the violence. It's it's sad and the music reflects flex the sadness rates and sometimes you get what I would call a very reductive kind of mirroring effect and and what that does I think it makes a music disappear rate. It makes music become a pad of embellishment underneath the other aspects of the film as opposed to like a unique a unique element in its own right. That is almost taking on primary role. Oh in communicating emotion or character or narrative or whatever right and I think a lot of my favorite films have have I think not even mind. Everybody's favorite films usually have music. That's more transcendent than that. Anonymity transcendent transcendent literally that transcends the tax it's not it's not solely There as kind of a subtle embellishment. It's it's it's it's Kinda more boldly used as its as its own a primary piece of experience of the hypnosis. The film's working on you. And I I you know jazz was going to be a part of this film because of the era it was also to me if there's a if there's a kind of music that's terrific. It's jazz in the era of it's absolutely terrific Type of music not just in. It's like sort of explosive sort of But because literally you it's about taking melodic forms and twisting them round and round and round doing variations on a melody variations on a melody variations on analogy and And so I knew I knew I wanted a little bit. And once on the jazz component of it I I went initially to basically a genius when Marsalis Sallis who helped me curate and think through Some of the key music that was being played in a a club in the film But I also wanted to. We've been wanted to weave in on free. I don't know why I was so into mashups on this mashups ships of sort of like you know terrific. A terrific character with the old fashioned. Are I wanted to mash up. Sort of jazz with with radiohead. In a way the things I love and I got time to write a beautiful song for the film that we in that we work in the film not only in his performance of it but also in a fifties style miles Davis like arrangement of it end again. It was one of the things that a lot of people kind of looked at me. A little bit cross eyed there like this. You can't so you know it's GonNa be it's GonNa feel weird to bring his voicing into a film in that era or to try to bring a modernist sensibility. Ability of dissonance and electronic components into a jazz score but I didn't think that was true because I I knew the Tom really like has an appreciation of jazz. Especially Ashley like Charles Mingas and other jazz artists who explored the kind of dissonance that I think Tom has explored in his own music. On records kid a and AMNESIAC knees Yakin his own solo stuff and I. I knew there was more energy than people were recognizing on paper and I thought we could do something really interesting. mashing these things up and and we did and I think this Trifecta of Tom and went Marcellus in this incredible incredible young composer in London. London named Daniel Kemberton. And everybody's been reacting to it and I agree with you that I've been working on this for like a number of years and I am still not tired of listening to the music on the film. I I have the the soundtrack gate. Actually the Sanchez came out. This past Friday we we released the soundtrack and score last week on the streaming services and smart. There's wonderful they are. They are just they you can listen to them without having seen a frame of the film and it is really really beautiful stuff really beautiful stuff Kudos for the dancing as well. We we don't have to give any spoilers but what a what a fantastic fantastic seen people who watch. It will know what I'm referring to and I want to hop to of reference to. I dare call it a review but I don't think review is quite the right word so I've had kimber on this podcast. He's one of the people who don't recognize the name or the name one of the most legendary. If not the most legendary well respected documentarian humantarian of ever possibly in the United States are just a prolific prodigious talent and he wrote a piece I mean I would say I would say he'd bent the genre. I'd say there's a there's a redefined the genre I think there was never over. There was never long form you know you could even argue that the whole the whole embrace of long form storytelling. It's now ubiquitous on net. We call binge. TV watching started with the civil war. You know what I mean. Kens film civil war was in the most audacious long form film in American history at that time and and he basically said he was one of the first people to say people will not only sit for this they will devour it. They want rich nuanced long stories. About these seminal events in our history there's still defining who we are you know. And and he re he re invigorated reshaped the entire form of Documentary but I literally think of filmed storytelling. He did he has. He has an. I'll I'll probably get some of these numbers wrong but since since we're just doing a quick deep dive on Ken. There are there are film effects named after. Ken Burns most related to his treatment of still photographs. uh-huh with embedded within named after him in some of those popular software programmes currently being used and the civil war. One must keep in mind. End was on broadcast television. And it was somewhere between fourteen and twenty hours of total content and at the time I WANNA say within within a year or so between thirty and forty million people head watched the civil war and if you just let that sink in for a second considering that it's appointment viewing I mean it's it's absolutely incredible so he writes this piece on medium which I which I Only very recently read. And I'm going to read the last paragraph I mean it's it's it's absolutely worth reading and all a link to it in the show notes for people at teamed up log for podcast and you can find Edward to search norton or Edward Norton and then we'll have a link to this but the last paragraph is is one that it really strikes me so if a lonely orphan burdened by societies heartless response to his terate syndrome can rise above his daily struggles and battle against Gedid masters of the universe types than what. Excuse excuse to the rest of us have for our own apathy motherless Brooklyn answers with a resounding none exclamation point. That's a hell of an ending to to hell of a piece about the film about you about society also. We could talk about that but the the question I'd love of to hear your thoughts on eventually is what would you hope this film to do. What a what effect if any do you want it to have on people or The the sort of larger larger picture. If any just up Kim curious what what you'd like the impact to be on individuals who watch it or otherwise. Well I think to stick with Ken Ken Starr Cans affirmation of the film was just like it was about as meaningful a- compliment as I've ever gotten On my own work it. It's like he's he's he's one of the druids in in I in my matrix of people who have really mattered in in filmmaking. He's he's one of the giants and he and he also in particular. He has clearly got this unparalleled commitment to dissecting kind of the American character. You know he he. He really is committed his whole creative career to. You're trying to understand who we are through the past And I I can't you know I. I can't overstate eight. My admiration for the work. He's done so it's it's to have him kind of Actually take the time to write this piece that he wrote about the film was was you know I. I had tears in my eyes when I read it the first time kill. I'll just pause for a quick second. I'm sorry because people may not realize just how a few sieve and don't direct. His commentary is in this piece. I've never seen anything like it. So I'll just give one more coaches dots. Dot's I'm not gonna read the the the entire paragraph but an instantly classic lead character in a career best performance by one of our finest actors seen after seeing if memorably smart and funny dialogue delivered by a Brilliant Ensemble cast gripping action with a gorgeous jazz score. That's the best. I've heard nothing less than a modern masterpiece. I mean how did did you know you just said it it. It could bring a tear I but like how did you feel after twenty years of hoping to make this to read something like that from none other than the legendary Ken Burns. I mean what happened where you dumbstruck. Where you yeah I I I mean it's a funny thing when you finish the thing you go through you go through these you start to sort of amass data points on. How is it actually landing and you show it to people you respect specked in you show it to some friends and you you know you you? I was starting to get a happy sense of slow. You know confidence that it was working as a film that it that it was doing what I wanted to do and people were with at least engaged with the character in some measure of the way that I that I had been engaged. I with him right. I I think I might very very very very first thing that I really was holding my breath on was anyway did I do due Lionel Justice. You know. Did I do letham great character. A basic honorable Reinterpretation and that that seemed to me to be working and Jonathan very very nervous showing the film to Jonathan and when he was really about that that set me into what I call A kind of happy relief but but I think that what can what can get that. That's he gets deeper level of satisfaction is that he he is more what you read in the beginning it at a certain point you kind of there's the there's the there's the hope that you can in craft something in a way that works a kind of magic on people just as a piece of cinema. Whatever I the things that have meant the most to me as audience member were things that had a transparency to them? Where where you could feel you felt like it was really hitting the nerve of your own experience or even better the collective experience you know so for me like do the Spike Lee's do the right thing had a had a seismic impact on me? It was this Guy Writing and directing and starring in his own film about his own neighborhood. and it was wildly entertaining. It was visually original and dynamic and then it but then it was about America. It was it was about the toughest thorniest questions about like racin. And how we deal with each other. And what's the correct response to the tensions that we feel about living together and it was just so so rich sophisticated and most importantly it it put it so squarely early in the audience his lap. It didn't give a cheap homily at the end. It didn't give a cheap redemptive reassurance in the end it it basically basically like insisted that you deal with with the question yourself you know and I think a lot of us it changed almost like the aspirational goal. For like what you're going for what you can do with the movie and on some some level. The thing I've had the most ambition to do is find things that in some way or another Instigate the gate that same kind of like Activation you know in we get so much stuff that's essentially engineered to make passive passive like. There's just so much in the culture that literally wants us to be a passive recipient of downloaded loaded cheap nutrition. Mostly I think Trying to put us in mode where we're inclined to buy shit you know but I mean I think that and I think The stuff that activates people the stuff that really gets them engaged is it is rare. And it's really cool when you feel it when you when you have that sensation that reminds you like that. You can get actually provoked emotionally or provoked. Vote ethically or provoked intern at as a citizen. You know it's that's pretty cool and I think it doesn't mean that it's gotTa be you you know a dynamic or intellectual or that it's going to be I don't know what the right word is a screed or a It can be art. I mean it's like Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan doesn't explain to you. He refused to explain to you. What a lot of what he did was about? But you knew you knew you know people in his generation. They knew what he was writing about. They knew what he was getting at. And he didn't have to say it and it galvanized people you know it really galvanized people to participate in in their generations and causes in all of it and I think in some measure. That's the highest aspiration. It's the if you can if you can get people to think about their own participation in the world around them that's pretty fantastic. I think you nailed it. Man I sent you a message right after walking out of the theater I saw it here in Austin at the violet crown. Really Nice small theater fantastic sound good luminosity which is a whole separate conversation. Ah Conversation but they project properly and it really does. It brings up a lot and it communicates a lot without about doing it in a heavy-handed too on the nose. Literal Prescriptive Way and it as as said doesn't offer neat pithy unrealistic simple solutions to complex situations but it in not doing that that in presenting the story and the characters and the universal struggles and challenges and desires in artful powerful way. I think does a much greater service. It's a fun watch but it's also meaningful watching and that's that's really hard to do so. Oh thanks I I mean I I it's funny I fi- you know. There's there's the poet Wilko's You know who I I. Love his poetry and his work. But there's that famous collection of letters that he wrote to a young poet. There's a bit in it that I think about a lot. He we're kind of says ten years is nothing to artist. Just station is everything and It's kind of one of those things that you put over your desk when you're in college college you know and you because it just sounds it sounds it sexy to think that you know it it means you know what I mean I totally do you. You're sort of it's kind of you look I latched onto when I was young You imagine yourself with that. The romantic struggle of it but then the reality of it is. It's not so pleasant. Sometimes you know what I mean but I think I think that for me the the justification on this effected what I wanted to say and my capacity to even understand and what I wanted to say a lot. I think if I had been able to make this in two thousand and three a whole bunch of things wouldn't have happened. I think I would have at that time in my life. Sort of had more romance for the idea of like the cynicism. That's in the Nawar Genre right. I think I might have embraced in an almost like showy way that I could be as dark and cynical as any new our our movie before you know at my age the phase of life and then with what is going on the country now I really. He felt differently by the time. I made this film like I did not want Faye dunaway to end up with a bullet in the eye and detective saying do as little as possible because I think that is not what this country needs right now. and I am not super keen on things that are artistically rich but ultimately really nyla stick like I don't think we need I don't think we need nihilism romance straight now at all. I think we've got. We've got nihilistic mystic. We've got nihilists walking into classrooms with Ar fifteen blowing kids away like way way way too often to be casually putting a sexy stamp on the idea of nihilism we and I think An and I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have felt that strongly about that if I they had made this ten years ago let alone twenty years ago you know so it would have changed the what can wrote what can wrote about this and and that sort of repulsive message of it or I wouldn't have been. I wouldn't have been the person you know trying to put that message across if I'd made this before and I'm glad in a way like I really genuinely glad that it took a long time because I think I feel more spiritually determined that that it goes in the direction it goes in at the end instead of into what I'd call like some sexy. It's it's funny. 'cause fight club somebody will say intellectual type. I never felt bad about that movie. I always felt one things I liked about. It was the future for all his You know for all his crusty exterior link. That's very much about what we're talking about an I. It's about a person who goes into romance with an idealistic thing but absolutely comes out of you know like absolutely recognizes the destructive the destructive freight train that he's set in motion an end moves to derail it and moves to grab hands with a woman in and say like no to that. And and yes to linking up with another human being and and making a connection you know what I mean and I think The violence in that film is a two to reduce the film's message to the exploration of the nihilism is a pretty weak sauce. Read of it in my view I think the I think the the message of evolution and growth in it is there And I I kind of feel that way about this. I I think that this making mothers Brooklyn now. It's it's gotten more of what I'd want to say a father other even Than than I than I would have been capable of earlier. I also couldn't have made this movie in with the budget that I had it on the schedule that I had to make it if I hadn't worked with spike Lee Wes Anderson and Alejandro. When you remove the I wouldn't have had the chops to do it? Those guys made me realize how much you within limitations and I think I think marinating in their work with down had a really really big impact on on my capacity to do this logistically. Well I've I've said it before I'll say it again Kudos human. It's a great film and I wholeheartedly urge everyone to check it out and I do not take the saying that lightly because I recognize one careless recommendation and people are like fuck that Tim Ferriss so it really interesting in talking about personal transformation as an artistic benchmark. We don't trust him ever again. Yeah exactly YEP YEP EXAC- right but I do feel comfortable recommending this it's great and Seat in the theater that that's definitely recommendation it'll be great when it comes is out on other platforms but it's it's really one of those films you WanNa see in a proper environment and we've been talking for a while I know you're you're busy man these days and I think this is a good place to to wrap up but people can say hello on twitter at Edward Norton Instagram Edward Norton Norton official facebook official Edward Norton a link to all these in the show notes everything we talked about a link to in the show notes per usual Tim Block for such podcast but Ebbert is there anything else you'd like to say any parting comments suggestions anything else that I'm missing now I it was interesting to talk through this like that It's one of the things I dig about your show. I think you as you know I hadn't as everybody knows you pack the The process you know better than anybody and I think I think that I've been talking about. I've been talking about the thing itself. In sort of reductive ways that are necessary when you become a cog in the marketing machinery Project but I do think it's very interesting to actually think back back through the process of thing with actual consideration because the truth is like it's amazing how much you tell yourself you start to discount phases of it. You know what I I mean like I. It's it's amazing. How much the maybe this is? Why like the mind also like eliminates the pain of workout? You know what I mean. It's like you if we if you remembered numbered pain viscerally. You might not ever do anything again but you you. It's funny isn't at. The function of the head has tendency to focus on the positive in some measure. You Know Fisher like the selective remembrance. Yeah this is this selective remembrance and it turns it starts to turn things into a story in its I must say I think you know what I think I would say. Is the the rap on it is. When I was thinking about doing this I talked to Warren Beatty one time about making reds which is his his own incredible? You know a three hour long movie about American Socialists and it it's one of the really great films of that whole decade about America and about the American cashed in it's also emotional. It's about relationships in all these things. It's it's a masterwork And he told me it was. He told me that everyone told him that. That he was gonNA flush Shaw his chips on that bet and No one wanted to see a three hour movie about Socialists with documentary footage from people who actually lived through through the era you know and he just went and did it anyway and the thing is that when you grow up on the film and then he got nominated for awards in its affirmed and everything you you you you discount the fact that in truth for ten it was a very very very Out On on a land experience and probably felt very half-baked allowed at the time. And I think it's good for people is good for people. Avoid any phase of life. Certainly I think it's good for young people to hear people who get a thing done. Say like it doesn't feel good at many phases. Along the way it feels entirely half-baked baked you feel entirely behind the eight ball and discouraged and this is an intrinsic part of it's an intrinsic part of it. It isn't all fun even when you're like already like you're saying you're like well but you've had success in. This thing is should be easier. It doesn't it doesn't get easier. It's it's anything that's worth things he's got any actual merit in. It is going to be hard and the hard part isn't romantic. It's hard you know what I mean. It's leader later. It's romantic later when you selectively. Remember Romantic later But it it really doesn't feel good along the way and I think sometimes it can. It's nice to be reminded that it's been hard for other people when they were getting things done. That you admired because it gives you that extra little bit of determination or patience to persevere little more absolutely and when in doubt find a friend like Toby Emmerich to call you up and threatened to give it to somebody else. All people your tribe the people ably trust like sounding boards. It's like nobody gets anything like this done along. It's just it it's you know it it's almost it's like when in the back of your book you see an author. They thank things in names but when really when you look at it as a block and you realize what that really is. That's a good tribe. You know what I mean around an author nobody they what's more solitary than writing a book right. But you look at the the network that's around author earns In it makes them feel compelled to say I could not have gotten his done without these people. Right it's it's. There's not many things that are that are truly done in solitude. The two agreed and a lot of things worth doing not in solitude also to have companions on the path and I am could not be happier for you and it means a lot to have you back on. Hope we get a chance to hang again soon and thanks. Thanks so much for the conversation for sure. Hey guys this is tim again. Just a few more things before you take off number one this his five bullet Friday. Do you want to get a short email from me. 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TWiG 569: Lettuce Cats - Twitter hack fallout, Tesla's Austin Gigafactory, Softbank sells ARM to Nvidia?

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TWiG 569: Lettuce Cats - Twitter hack fallout, Tesla's Austin Gigafactory, Softbank sells ARM to Nvidia?

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As time for tweet this week, a GRUNDEL, to show recover the greatest and the latest from the Google. Go First Stacey. Higginbotham here for Stacey on IOT DOT COM Hi Stacey. I Lo. Yang. Shelf you've got books, you really. Got Up Plant? There I think she needs. Bruce. We Really. Yeah that's Jeff Jarvis by the way President Journalism at the Craig and Interior Decorator School of journalism the town he's. City University. He's He's a kangaroo. A stuffed kangaroo would fit nicely there. We were looking. At some tanks army. Although most of it was weird. Carson sent along a rat with butterfly wings. I didn't think that. Would really. Ross rat was excellent. Sent a creature from my nightmares, who does rival which rivals spot for like striking terror into my heart? Frog taxidermied frog with the teeth of a shark. And Pretty Scary. was fantastic. Whereas you gotTA. How about this would that be good? This is the most lifelike dead animals anywhere according to. TAXIDERMY POOR STACEY! We ended last week, so folks kind of. It for Stacey for needing a two. Spruce things up for raped by skype room. You know we could just with a little photoshop. Frankly just put that in. We because can yeah, that's true. I could have a different taxidermied. All of this changes mood color Oh. Chuck mounted this Ohi. TAXIDERMY DOT COM. That's an Pruitt from hands, photography hands on wellness and the reason that everybody's trying to look better because look. How good look look! Look at that Shaw, thank you. Lit and the person in it. He don't need no taxidermy. Stuffed animals. Just think. These. Days show about this, Stacey. We could put this. I'm just thinking over Stacy's shoulder. The perfect perfect I love trash pandas. Yes, it's kind of a reclining trash panda. He's got his chin on the tree stump. He's just all. He's looking at. Yeah never heard that phrase. Aka Raccoon. But he's a flying trash panda, because there's no leg on the ground. No, he's in the air. He's definitely in the air. That would be a very tricky trash Pat Badger Badger. Reporter emblem. You are as nationless as a badger. I'm really liking the raccoon. I think saw. Lion now I was looking at an alligator there. Some caymans that were kind of like. Upright and I was like Oh that gives me both height, and it's kind of a skinny spot, so you don't have a lot of animal room. These people also offered to yourself burden mounting kit if you wanted to. Have prices deserve price on the trump. Yeah, let's see here price levels. This is posted and twenty sixteen. I'm going to zoom in on this here. Antelope Badger is five, hundred, fifty, two, nine hundred. Oh, shoulder, Mount, versus full Matt You want a full Matt I think. If, you wanted to showcase the entire Aminul. That all sounds quite competitive on the person. I think it's very good. I mean that's a lot of work. To make those Cox, damn the bus Cox I want to hold. Javelin open mouth. The bighorn Wolf Bob Cat. Bison, Caribou. You could just have a cow. I feel like I must. Have a rundown open. No wonder I'm feeling so lost not that we're talking about people yet, but. Even close. We're not. Googling to get to these, honestly, maybe it's just me I. Don't think I don't. I can't get excited about anything. On this thing! We were. Actually I was exciting last week. Because right in the middle of the show, the big twitter hack happened why yeah, that was that was booths, and by the way I was. Twenty four hours. Because who is still off who Lori Gills? A I'm more DOT COM is still off. So is cranberry because and this is a classic story there. They were very early. Their it department immediately saw the first finance hack. And Brock that it was going to go I guess they saw a couple of people and they've somehow understood that it must be blue checks, so they immediately change all their passwords hydros. Thing, they could do wall. We were on the show last week. I changed the password. And so when everybody else came back, I wasn't back I had to go to. An executive was job. This was not but who was very nice. I. Don't want him to say who it was because everybody go to. Twitter problem, but he was very nice and he got me up, but I had to go through a couple of steps to back up. Because I was obviously, it turned to flag. It's not because you're Cunanan a conspiracy theorist. Well. Let's talk about that. Let me, finish, break away. Yes, Glenn Maxwell, her feisty, her father I met her father, had very close Russian connections. It was presumed to be a Russian spy, so I I think. Oh Yeah. Pronounce, G. H. I. S.. L. N. E. Land as Glen Glenn Glenn. Glenn I heard it from her father. It's like Chevron. It's like one of those weird. Irish, yeah, long then then bars. Father of course hired epsteins of. To teach. At the college and Maxwell has ties to the Israeli and Russian mobs through her father, and yeah, I do conspiracy and there's a lot. There's a lot of two threads on that one boy. Are they start pulling because a whole sweater sweater fall apart, but just to go full circle on the twitter attack. The New, York Times did some. I think intrepid reporting unless it proves that at some point that they were taken for a ride, but they did a pretty good job of verifying that they were getting. From people actually at the scene, the story of what happened. And they did this. Very quickly! This is only a couple of days later, and they were able to finger a user. Named Kirk. User named Kirk. Who claimed at the time that he worked at the twitter? which would sort of make sense? Except that it turned out, he didn't work for twitter. He in fact did have access though to something that only twitter employees should have access to the God account the God dashboard that lets you do anything but the most. I think dramatic part of the story and again they're getting this from. People who are connected to the hack they matched their social media and crypto currency accounts to accounts were involved the the people that they were talking to also presented screen shots of their corroborating evidence logs on discord, so and so forth so there's some reason to believe this story, but boy. This is if your twitter and they've not admitted to this or said anything about it. This is the thing that is the most damning for twitter. It turns out no Kirk didn't in fact work at twitter, but he did get access to the God mode because apparently. Twitter had put the credentials for the administrative console in pin them in fact in their internal slack, messaging channel that's smart. Not Way, no, that's true. Experts. Opinion yes, and that's all we had to be hacked. Really was that slack and that gave him access. To all those accounts still I think the kind of the unknown. which was is is Kirk Really Vladimir and were Z. Spammy and probably not very lucrative messages just a misdirection while he did other things because he certainly could have done other things, twitter says only DM's of eight accounts for downloaded and all eight were unverified, but they won't say what the we're. Not Blue checks cares about that. Yeah, we don't. When I. Yeah when all this stuff was going down, I had reached out to our friend Dan. Patterson, because he he covers a lot of the security stuff and the first thing he said to me. He's like this can't be the in game. This is more than likely misdirection. That's that's certainly tempting, isn't it? That Taylor will be on twitter on Sunday by the way, so we'll. We'll yeah. We didn't tell me not just talk to him a few minutes. Didn't things from ant. He figured you would know. Yellow that. Tan Of course we're CBS's grace EVS news. Go ahead Stacey. Oh! No I was GONNA. Say if you you have to think suspiciously like okay, this could have been something. You know that the twelve nine dimensional chess whatever happened edmund dimensions of. What basically. But. I've also kind of like. After Reading The New York Times story was like Oh. These are budgets, stupid kids. Having Fun and. They may have just stolen. Their accounts credentials just to see if they were talking about them, and that's not implausible. It would be stupid for you to like plan for that. Right? So. They you know if if Kirk? Were time. didn't get a lot of money. If you watch the account, you can't really judge because hackers typically will put money into an an out of accounts in such a way that you can't really sure. They're making, but we do have one source finance, which is a bitcoin exchange buying it said as soon as we saw that address, we blocked it and we were able to block more than a quarter million dollar transactions, so a lot of people wanted to put money. Idiots but it. You know so. It wasn't a super lucrative hack. It is like you have. The you have. The keys to Disneyland. And all you decide to do is ride the train around in a circle. It's it's. Seems like they could have done more. Well if You had if you are a state actor that had the ability to have those credentials and that access. You wouldn't blow it. dupage! Did Right, so that's why I'm like, maybe as Mr Action, but it's Kinda looks. Unless! You're state actor. That's had access for a long long long long time, and now you just want to blow it up, but that even that doesn't make sense. Why would you blow it up now, yeah. Right. Right, yeah, you know election I think maybe the surface. Reading is just the right reading. So how did how did they get? So they say it was it was social. Did they pay off? Somebody inside twitter is about still it's not that's not clear. But it could be all kirk really needed was. The. Access to the slack channel, so it could be. He got some twitter guy drunk and I. Think he got into was giving them anything particularly. Yeah, you're going come in our slack. Hang out with US maybe. He. you know that's not like saying. Hey, dude. I'll give you hundred bucks if you give me God mode. That's that's a little lower level, but it turns out. It was giving him God mode so I don't know. Twitter says it's an active investigation, so they wouldn't comment to the times and we haven't heard much since. Always, worry about the social engineering at a company like this that supposedly should be sort of you know in tune with no that they could be socially engineered at. Time just because of wording work. Yeah, well, you would think. Engineered in the past few times, one contractor on leaving in two thousand seventeen. T deleting trump's account that was fixed quickly. Dorsey was hacked quite notably. Sim swats wrong ago, but he was swapped was interesting because it's a Sim swap gang. Another Sim swap or the same I don't know that did that started this they do. The SIM swapping with an eye to getting the og handles like at why or at six right makes me glad I didn't take Leo way back wedding which I could have. It was available that I was. More. Because that's those they go after those quite actively. You don't WanNa Short. Twitter handle I pour at. Yeah poor at. Yeah. Yeah. And he doesn't even have to tease his right. It's really short. Avenue! Yeah. I. Do have a beef with one of the stories that went out that said. Twitter was better now that they've verified accounts. Could he tweet? Yeah, that was. A Little Lewis snarky. You're right. You're right. It was just a different star I say. It because. It's like it was back to the people. I. Think twitter was better before. The celebrities in the big brands arrive. Twitter was really cool when it was. That's what you were. The biggest seller was number one. Okay. Let me, put it. Let me put it to you like this I'm looking at three verified right now on the panel. I want to see what you are saying on twitter. You know I. Know that you can use it as a marketing platform and things of that nature, but most of the time I'm looking for you three information for just general conversation. Because in my eyes, you are regular people that just happened to have a blue check so. Just thrown at blanket statement out is like glue checks also twitter is much better. That's because they're plenty of good blue checks out there providing a guy, you know good content I agree like my dreams. Nicest person on the Internet isn't any way too Nice I. Don't know about way. I've been angry the last couple of days maybe not. No Yeah! Oh aunt, you should have a wig. It'll make you feel better. Well I got the mandate. Yeah I'm just saying you know when life brings you down you gotTA. Yeah. Are? You fluffed up right now, stacy. This. I'm trying to be fluffy. Love it she's just. You just need. A trash pan behind you then you'll be really. Oh, man I! Just right over over her left shoulder there. It'd be so cool, perfect, ver-very perfect. They're just ready to ready to claw right. Yeah. Yeah exactly. I like that we all think that my taxidermied animals should have some sort of aggressive anti this going on. I use a threat it's to. Scream oh Jeez. It is. It is the closest to me, isn't it? I don't. Oh launch trash handed button that's. Just come out over those. Long comes out from behind the screen. Good give. Carson things do get. Get attorneys on it now so. Let's talk about this Qa thing twitter. Band. Seven. Thousand Cunanan accounts this. Was You know twitter's known about these forever? they're going to classify cue in on the conspiracy. Theories coordinated harmful activity because of a rise in harassment, targeting high profile critics of the president. Of Bad for quite a while to. Yeah. the also one hundred fifty thousand accounts. will be affected. other. New there were that many Cunanan accounts. It will stop recommending accounts and content related Cunanan. Pets been doing that. Okay? Maybe that's a good idea. Twitter and it will take steps to limit circulation of content. In features like trends and search. One hundred fifty thousand Cunanan. Accounts are included in this. But the thing is folks. We can play whack-a-mole forever. They're not going to go away. We what we have to do is learn society to ignore them. Attention, you have to be quite a mush mind to fall into the queue non. Fiction rush mind right there. And I would say Jeff. No, you can't ignore them. Smith these people are actively scary and hostile in represent in the physical world, and as a woman I would say to you know ignoring them as a bad strategy. Don't want them saying Stacey Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. Absolutely what I'm saying is though. that. It's it's the revision of the Old Yorker, cartoon. I can't come to bed. There's a nut on the Internet. As best you can, we shouldn't declare the Internet broken. And throw up our hands that it's awful when one creeps on, we'll get rid of them. We'll get rid of them. We but but when we give them attention. That's what they most want. To get rid of them quietly I just read that Chrissy Teigen has been a constant target of harassment by Q. On in recent weeks, and they've targeted some of her friends. Some of whom are private figures. Posting violent threats on their instagram accounts. Okay now you've gone too far if you that's practically, that's as bad as threatening at pro if you're threatening to Chrissy Teigen. And why why would? Probably. Try to break into their mind. That's kind of what they wanted to be in your head, so just get rid of them and. Say Northern Stacey just don't give them attention. That's what I want. That's what I mean yeah. Yeah, and that's the hard part, because human nature is to respond when someone speaks to you whether it's a hello, or whether it's You're a jackass. You're going to respond to either one of those statements and a lot of times with the people on the Internet. It's hard to sort of put that filter up to say. Yep, this is just another keyboard tough guy coming at me with rubbish. Although sort of supporting your point I guess the one of the reasons they're targeting Chrissy. Teigen is because she regularly goes on twitter and. You know bashes them. She doesn't well. She bashes them for being jerks to her in. Trying to police her because she's I. Mean I maintain that. They're trying to please her because she's famous woman Ryan. If you see the attacks that women on twitter, get when they have a large audience. Oh, it's true. Yes awful! Yeah, so you know it's. It's kind of like. I know that's politics, not bringing it up, but see I'm with you in. You just have to not respond and you have to sell yourself like there's plenty of times. People are like saying stuff to me on the Internet and to. It's funny because it's so outrageous. That you know, but it's also seductive in a weird way because. As you as you get sucked down that rabbit hole, you get all the support from other people say yeah, now you're seeing now. You're getting it now. You're getting it and you get this feeling of being just like any. Yeah, it's really Colty is, and you feel like Oh wow I, the you know. The scales have fallen from my eyes. I'm finally seeing what's really going on. It so I understand why people get sucked into it. But. I mean. How much how much is it? Twitter's job to? To fight this I mean that seems like an impossible task Cunanan on, but conspiracy theories in general. Openly says that they want to have this as a safe space where everybody to enjoy the platform I mean if you go on to report a particular twitter account, or what have you to have all of these different reasons? Why are you trying to report it because they totally don't agree to people, being harassing or just insensitive or spammy? It's the. Clock Right. Right. I think I think that I mean think about it this way, so if the media's at party. Twitter's like you know what you gotTa leave the part of your your being a giant Dick to people. Bingo Bingo. Yes I'm stacey thinking about this day to it's. It's SORTA facebook Arabia what do with it on