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"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
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"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"That's what I did. In my early reporting career, I was doing a lot of I mean I jumped pretty quickly into just doing my own interviews. And they were all very bad especially when I started deciding all right wall deviate from this pre written script that I've come up with and I'll just I'll make it up as they go and I have a few early stories of the nightmares that occurred from from trying to riff. It didn't go so well and and I definitely feel like my skills as an interviewer took a very sharp tick upward. When I was at MTV in, I was transcribing a lot of like. You. Know. Lots of lots of like video clips of interviews breakout stories that we would have like this is you know we we just interviewed Chris Evans for something and he's just been cast as Captain America. Let's inputs Bangbat Abbas its own little breakout story and I would learn so much just from listening to the way like Josh, Horowitz interviewed people, for example. And so I do like just just hearing. You say that just kind of reinforces something that I have always felt about people who are right now trying to become up and coming reporters in this space like. Like listen and watch interviews. And in addition to read as much as he can but listening to the cadence and watching the way that people. Develop that report in a moment because oftentimes you have so little time to phrasing of the question. Like everyone kind of prepares some talking points in advance you do your research but it really. How you approach that question you can either shut someone down or have them open up right away. I've had both I've found. Everything, you can like that's what I did when I was reporting. Rewriting press releases the first thing that I would do. Story that was writing our story. I wasn't. I would go back and read the people who Were doing the job that I wanted to be the people that I looked up to. So Nellie Cynthia right I read all this stuff as a copy editor but now when I'm writing the story. That they are if I'm on the same embargo. The first thing that I did really early in my and I still do this is uncle back and read and say like Oh zero pieces. Their angle that I missed have is your contacted that I. was there yeah. Yeah. What was their headline you know and? For. Consumer stuff. One of the big ways that helped me get promoted off the copy desk. One of the big things was covering glee. That shows a phenomenon broke out. We didn't have anyone to cover like a consumer thing we like whereas you were my go-to. I brought you in because you know are. Thrown at Bellamy called me into his office said game of thrones is the number one show on everyone's website except ours fix that. And that's how you into my own window talk about dragons. That I'll do are my dragon massive? Giants I I don't know I'm. Just pick in dragon rider no, we don't want. The weeds that? I'm glad you brought up glee because I know he is really central to the next evolution point of your career. I feel like this is a show that you are covering at that. Would you say at that level that I was covering game of thrones for you and game of thrones was on Up. I tried to be mean it was hard I mean I remember at the time Tim Stack like it had at entertainment weekly felt like he had Ryan Murphy on speed dial? Every glee exclusive was on aws. A big show on the planet was a global global hit and I remember getting the opportunity to go to set as part of like a press junket and. Doing, red carpet events with the CAST and setting up. With with everyone every week and then you know watching on sling box and having to recap and learning how to get to write a story in real time, and which was a whole other experience of deadline where you're watching this episode and you have to write about it in real time and figure out what the headline is. The key moment is what what the picture should be, how to do it all without spoiling anything and how to do that. You don't have the story up within like five minutes after the episode ends. You know what? It's like working relationships with publicists and getting. Pitching Yourself. Okay. We Really WanNa do this. Is this person available and you build a report not just with with cast and the producers, but also with the publicists, not just for the show but for the individual talent and just different ways of covering a show and it was a mini lesson in how to cover a bigger beat you know and when you're covering development beat. For, what I do now it's like you're covering networks and streamers and executives and show runners and cancellations and. I always say I'm sure you've heard me say this four. But now this job is like juggling blow torches and you just hope that you don't get burned by one and at the time working glee, it's like you learn how to like hey, you know here you have set up a weekly conversation with a publicist and say, these are the kind of things that we want to do or what's coming up what what should we be doing? I know you can't say a whole lot but you know we want to cover it weekly indepth. What are the angles? Oh, you should reach out to this person because that's a big episode coming up. So just kind of set that up you know and. It was a crash course in how to cover a beat and. And had to be stressed out all the time. You're you're on watch anytime someone says something are aggregating another interview or if there's a big casting that breaks elsewhere learning how to confirm news and you know not just watch you know it's like when the network when Fox used to send out like, Oh, here's upcoming storylines like scroll down whereas Lee and you're like, okay are there any guests castings been announcer any big storyline that could be its own breakout or you get a screener in advance and you learn how to write a preview without spoiling anything and? Yeah, it was a whole like it's a whole subset of skills that you learn on the fly. Yeah. What were some of the other shows that you you you're covering as you became official TV writer at the Hollywood reporter what are some of the ones that that stand out as either most enjoyable most memorable anything like that? well, t h are really needed me to cover glee. So that was. Obviously the pilot like everybody else did and was like, wow, this show's awesome it and it just was. A musical theater nerd like I loved the pilot and being asked to cover it was yes in assignment but also like. Showcase. Sure. You want me to do what? Yeah. Okay. I'm here for that and then you know they really kind of left up to me and you know at the time I love grey's anatomy I still do and I just started writing about gray's and and. It was basically they they trusted my news judgment effort, Kinda showed that I had the you know that I was able to cover a show like Li every week and and that was a learning experience I saw nightmare stories from from that and. Not Fit for podcasting I mean. I remember. Doing an interview with Ryan Murphy and asked him there were all these rumors at the time that you know of cast departures and. Asking him about the cast departures and he said, yeah, they're not. They're not returning and I was like wait what. Like. And I ran the story and. He called me back screaming. And the story went viral. And A. Few days later, I had to go to comic con and Glee was a last minute addition in hall was either. Hall. Age Or ballroom twenty. I can't remember in one of them for sure though definitely one of the big ones this is at the height of his popularity I remember. Sitting in the audience and moderator Mike Loss Yellow WHO's. If you WANNA be if you WANNA learn how to do consumer show coverage follow him in watch how. Stories because that's As a reader he was he was my master. Yeah. I would say if you're covering consumer stuff that's he was the king of that. You know he the way he positioned stories you know at the time that's how I learned a lot of it and I just remember us. Yellow asking Brad Feld check was up there co-creator and you know he asked Brad he's like Brian Murphy just gave this interview and said that these cast members are not returning and. Said Yeah. Ryan told me he never said.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"The Wilshire Office of HR Speaker on. In one hand. Yeah. Yeah exactly. So I kept doing that and at that point you know as the years went by Janice Min came in and refashioned t hr from a daily publication into a weekly publication. It was a massive change with obviously new ownership she was adding staff. One. Of the people that she hired was lacy rose, who is now t HR's executive editor of television and someone that I consider my mentor and friend. And I kept writing and they. You know when Lacey came in. You know I think she was there for maybe a week. And definitely was already in the middle of closing her first cover story overwhelmed and I liked approached her in the hallway and I'm like, hi, I'm Leslie. You don't know me I work over around the corner in the features department. As a copy editor, but I want to be a TV report. and. She's just like, okay thanks. That's a lot of information. Overwhelmed or you know. Kind of filed filed away and. She did mention she's like I've read your byline and I'm just like wait what I haven't written hr. Maybe, done like one or two things like Cynthia, Littleton, set into the creative arts. EMMYS which if you're a TV reporter that's literally the worst assignment, you can have that show used to be like five hours on like a Saturday as one of the most boring assignments you could possibly ever have. And now it's like over like this year I think it was virtual but held over like three or four nights. I haven't had the bush impossible. You shouldn't. Yeah and you know a couple months went by and. and. Rigor she'd read your freelance studied ride my freelance stuff. Yeah and she looked me up and came back to me and you know by that point we had. lost. A number of staff members obviously nillion Cynthia had all gone deadline and James Hibberd. who was also t HR is a great TV reporter had gone to to entertainment weekly and there was a need and you know that was right around the time of COMECON and they had negotiated to do a comic con standalone issue guest edited by Jon. favreau and I pitched her. Like what if we open that section with like a round up of. Like poll a survey basically, like Oh what panel would you stand in line all day to see or if you were gonNA, dress up in costume to avoid being recognized who would you dress as in right? You know kind of. Stuff like that, and I pitched a list and like these are the forty people that I would go out to. And they came back and they said do it and I'm just like, okay I have no experience I'm like googling like everything like how who is the press person for Zach Levi? or WHO's I know? How do I get in touch with Felicia Day and whose Nathan Fillion? How how do I get you know and I wound up doing forty interviews in? Something like. Thirty five days or something insane like that and I said, well, let's take the best pieces and put them in this round up. But then we'll do like a whole lead up do thirty days to comic con and we'll do a Q. and A. including all this stuff online and it worked out really really well and. And I had kind of started picking up press releases during the day a moved my desk from the copy desk to right in front of lacy. And she gave me an old. Print out of the the TV critics, association press tour a packet, and they used to have a list of like it's representing each show. That was going to be a tour, and so I would just email that like, oh, a press release and she'd forward forwarded to me and she's right this up and it's like Oxygen Green Lights some show you've never heard of of you know. Whatever and just write it up and it was great experience but I was also filling a need and. I remember being maybe two days or the day before I was gonNA leave to go cover comic con in San Diego and Janice called me into her office and you've ever worked for Janice getting called into her office is beyond intimidating I was it was like that day that I called into hr were got laid off I was like oh my Gosh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God she she hasn't even spoken with me yet and she's calling me into her office. What have I done? What have I done? Oh, my God and I walk in there and she had printed out the masthead and showed me pointed to my name and it was not listed under copy editor. It was listed as TV separator. Wow. and. Almost pissed my pants. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Raise you to get that news and so that was that was the official shift. Now this is the way. I just remember. The best advice that Lacey gave me in the weeks leading up to that was figure out what you want this job to be, and then do that and as someone who Loved television. WHO. And having gotten to edit all the stories over the years from Nelly and Cynthia and everyone who? Came after them. Learning about what development and up fronts was and how shows get made whether it's scripted or unscripted in how the business works and learning all the executives are all producers and all these other things. That's what I wanted to do because you know like how happy days get made. You know that like reading about that was like super, fun when I was a young kid and. Now. I'm the person that's responsible for actually writing and reporting those things and it was just like. Pinch me. Pinch me moment for sure I still have the printout. I'll. That framed or walked away safely somewhere I mean. It's am I said Yeah. That's where it ought to be that. That's incredible that can can you that period of thirty five ish days of like interviewing forty people was I With transcription that's what I remember. I was like I got no. But I will say that that whenever lacy did an interview this was like she had just started and and I was it was like hero worship she came in from Forbes and had been doing this a long time and I was just. So India's Mike how she early stories like how she gets these people to say these things and. You know she would give me interviews that she did and just listen to and I would volunteer to transcribe her interviews and. I would learn from the way that she interviewed. At like you know she's the tell me like when I was before I do like an interview with a showrunner and. She's like figure out what you want them to say, and then ask a question that gets you that gets them there, and if it doesn't work come at it at a different angle and you would hear out here, her do it when I would transcribe stuff and it was just it was like a masterclass she's you know I I've gotten to listen to people like. Steven. Galloway. Do their interviews, and this is when i Stevens copy editor back in the features department, Africa rehired and. There are some of the best interviewers you'll ever hear. You can obviously go watch you know, Hollywood reporter's roundtables and you can see it firsthand and but as a young journalist and aspiring. Reporter hearing that at a time before there was round tables and stuff like that like it was invaluable like some of the best stuff that I've ever heard and you know when when. We used to intern. In in the before times when you had offices in, could all gather in the same room and I would tell the interns like you know one of the first things that you're assigned to do an intern is to help with transcription as you say look. Brought job it's awful wants to transcribe but find the value in whatever the job no matter how menial it is especially if it's transcription if especially, if it's someone who's a master interviewer like lacy volunteer for those jobs say yes to everything. Because.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Take any breaks during the I would stop at home because in the middle of all that there was about a month period where one of my cats was really sick. met needed meds through a feeding too. So I would kind of stop at home and do that and then have like a zone bar in red bull in the car on the way out to woodland. Hills. Some so that that was that was reading habits I have. Yeah. Yes. Well, sometimes you know you do what you gotta do is eat on the fly why? Why was it so important you to still be working at the at the baseball card shop. To make ends meet you know this is. A copy editor jobs didn't. Didn't pay a lot. And by I'm trying to remember like early salary over being so excited that I us getting a regular check and I think my annual salary was something like twenty, four, thousand dollars a year for the Daily News and I was making ten dollars an hour at the car shop. And of course, I. Spent some of it. Takhar shot so Yeah So how does how does the pivot to HR begin because that's that's where you're going to be writing for the duration from there while working nights, and as you pointed out twelve and thirteen hour days and driving. All around southern California. It's until I was young and single, and all my friends were. Going out to concerts or going out drinking, and you know on dates and you know I was young and single, and you know wound up being the designated driver when my my roommate and our friends wound up getting having too much drinks I'd go from Woodland Hills after on like a Friday night out to west Hollywood at you know maybe having one drink before last call and then basically drive all these drunk pools home. Here about the good night. Yeah, and you hear the stories end. And yes. So I wound up you know look around journals and jobs calm and saw the Hollywood reporter was hiring and I. Like I said I loved TV specifically since I was little and my mom was a big sci-fi fan is still a huge sci fi fan is one of the things that that my mom and my wife wound up bonding over the first time that they met. and. I. Wound up applying for the job I didn't get it. They kept my resume on file and then a similar post opened up and they called me and this was more dedicated copy editor. The job was copy editing and working the wires a little bit which I had done at the daily news covering like the September eleventh attacks and a lot of that other stuff and know all major breaking stories and. So they called me back for the for the second, you've the copy editing job and I remember the interviews with the managing editor at the time guy named Dave Morgan one of the best journalism guys you'll meet and He asked me after the copy editing tasks. Tell me you know what's your weakness? And I was just like you know what I'm honest and blunt to the point I said, I am an awful speller and I'm applying here and doing an interview for coveting. Job. But the fact that I know that that's my weakness I wound I wind up working harder to make sure that I get things, right? Yeah and I got the job. That's awesome and that was. A trap door questions, it really is. A tricky. Question Yeah. So you're on, you're on the copy desk in what's the? What's the day to day like from from there for the next little while now that you've you've you've pivoted over to teach our, what's it? Had you been reading the Hollywood reporter? I read everything online if it was anything to do with with with movies or television. Just casting stuff I love casting stories I love understanding what the new TV shows were and why obviously watching trailers like know a lot of. A lot of big fans do. You know and I have my favorite shows and and reading about all of them what was going on and that was kind of the birth of of you know the recap movement and a lot of that stuff was starting to to launch and to come into play and. But yeah I mean. My to day I this is when I left. Stop working. During the day and And the weekends at a baseball card shop. So I was down to one job. ME. Only working eight and a half hours a day five days a week now fairly normal shift or early normal shift. Yeah. Well. day started my shift was from noon to eight. Okay. So a lot better than. An upgrade. Midnight enter a second job in the morning. Yeah. I would go in and around around noon and. You're reading stories for T- HR. So that means editing reviews casting stories film stories business stories box office. And the more that I was there the more that I wanted to do more. So I volunteered to edit the business page and I remember. Working with our business editor, George Salah who's still one of our international correspondents now based in London at HR today. And George Talk every every morning and he's like Oh. These are the stories and I was like, Oh, we should do an earnings chart with to accompany this and this and Blah Blah Blah and I just remember reading about like Netflix stock and being like Oh you. Re dollars a share issue yet. I should buy some of that I'm like, I need more money in play the stock market a little bit. At five hundred dollars hours, right? Yeah. Insight Right Yeah, it was a dream job being a t HR and getting to read about how the sausage gets made, how films get made, how TV's May TV shows get made and working with some people that I read for a long time. You know t h argues to have an incredible staff. Right? Still has an amazing staff but when you look around the Industry Nellie Andrea. RTP, editor she obviously Reno is huge name at deadline one of the CO founders of deadline dot Com Cynthia Littleton who was just this week was promoted to co editor and chief a variety. You know these are two of my mentors and getting to work with them on the daily basis in an editing, their stories and learning about the business through being there editor of their copy I wasn't threaded or I was there copy editor and you know that's where I got to learn about up fronts. You know when all the advertisers pitch their new shows. Or when all the networks pitch their their new shows, the advertisers and how to write a casting story and what a put pilot means and and it was what an overall deal was and just I loved it. It was like a peek behind the curtain of one of my favorite things and. That's pretty great. Yeah I think being. Literally having it. Be Your job like you half to read every single thing. All you have to read every single thing about all these things that you love so much. Out that certain people on staff, don't know how to spell Steve Name Right. Right, right. Yeah Yeah. kind of its own it's like it's on. Its own continuation of journalism school it's like a specification. You're getting to have that wake up front look at how this is getting made from the people you've been reading so. Yeah it was absolutely amazing. Yeah. I wouldn't have traded for the world and. I remember how shattered. I was as high as those highs were I remember one day coming in the middle of the recession I want to see two, thousand nine and you know journalism was in the toilet because everything was going online and. And I remember going in early because I was working on. I, just the night before gotten assigned this special year end project and I was kind of mapping it out. So I come in two hours early to kind of work on this package and the guy I worked with this stuff George was based in New York at the time. So the time difference it made it a little easier. We had this whole thing planned out and drawn up some charts and at ideas and mapped out what the pages I was going to look like and we had a meeting set up with the art department and.
Cops and Live P.D. canceled following protests against police violence
"I'm Kim. Masters and this is the high. Would breakdown joining me is my banter buddy on the Business Matt Bellamy and Matt, the protests that have been going on around the world are really relevant to Hollywood and we see Hollywood. Reacting are trying to figure out how to react to broader concerns about racism and also concerns about the way. Television and movies have contributed to the perpetuation. Of an idea about police, and how they function, this is just filters all kinds of programming, even if it's not a cop show, and it has created a situation where the cops in the public mind get a certain amount of benefit of the doubt as the heros that they are portrayed, even if they break the rules. And, so this now is something we see cops being canceled. We see a live PD, which is hit for an e cops has been on for years and his money maker, but like PD is Annie's number, one show and Anne pulled the plug. Yeah, and they pull the plug after recently ordering one hundred sixty episodes of the show and I think that's really a testament to the soul searching that's going on at a lot of these networks, and if you look at the top ten most watched shows from the past season most viewed you look at blue bloods you look at Ncis you look at Chicago PD. You look at all. All of these police oriented shows that that really do portray these police as flawed, but ultimately heroic, and I think that's what's really going to be the subject of soul-searching, and I wonder if you know beyond the obvious like these verite shows that you can go after right now I wonder if the creatives behind some of these police, procedural shows are really going to reassess how their characters are portrayed. Yeah, I mean most of these shows are run by white men, and there's a certain accepted myth about how things work at is not based in reality, and these shows don't reckon very often with racial injustice and how the Justice System Perpetuates racism. You know it's interesting. My Colleague Lesley Goldberg talked to Warren light who runs law and order Svu and asked him you know how `bout this portrayal, and he's sort of had to say. It was clear that Dick Wolf would ever who, in he has so many shows on TV, and they run in reruns. That Dick Wolf whatever you know. Step away from that portrayal of cups and again this filters through, and it's not just about cops. I mean you just saw Hbo Max pull gone. With the wind because of racist stereotypes, the glorification of the South in the era of slavery. It'll be back. It's not being censored is still available. You can buy a lot of these shows that are being looked at but. It the they're going to bring it back with some context to make it clear that this represents a certain view of the world that is no longer acceptable view of the world and Disney did that when the Disney plus dreamer launched. They realized that some of the Older Walt Disney content was not culturally appropriate anymore, and it's easy to alter things from the past, but what's more interesting to me is when we go from here. Here, and whether these concerns that have come to the forefront today where you see the entire New York Times nonfiction bestseller list devoted to issues of race and injustice. This is clearly permeating the culture right now, and where will Hollywood take it? There's GonNa. Be a lot of scrutiny on the content of these shows going forward. Yeah, I think we're going to need some change in the executive suites, but we'll see going forward. Thank you. Thank
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on The Frame
"The studio of artist? Akiko Staring Burger and talk about the competitive world of movie posters. I sat down one time. Tried to calculate how many posters I've made in fifteen years and it's anywhere from eight thousand nine thousand so I can guarantee you that ninety percent of them never saw today Dan with kiss on. Its final tour. A lifelong fan says farewell. That's Today on the frame. We'll be right back. The Corona Virus Pandemic has forced the closure of thousands of businesses around the globe. Closer to home. It has also led to the shutting down of pretty much everything in production and Hollywood movie series reality shows late night soap operas at a certain point consumers have nothing new to watch. And how might that change? The Future of Television Lesley Goldberg is the West Coast TV editor at the Hollywood reporter. Leslie welcome to the show. Thanks for having me first off how many TV shows have suspended production at feels like pretty much everything right now. I'd be surprised if there was anything. Still running in the US right now. It's hard to get a specific tally because we are in a p t climate where there are hundreds of TV shows currently being produced. That's just on the Strip inside and you've got another seven hundred unscripted shows in their last year plus late night and daytime and syndicated talk shows but it it's fair to believe that largely everything that was currently in production is no longer in production right now in terms of scripted series. I think we can divide the list into a couple of different categories new series. Where maybe a pilot was shot continuing series. Where maybe there are scripts? But they haven't yet started production and then there are series. That might be nearly finished but can't quite wrap up all episodes like Fargo Are those the basic groups of shows? Yeah I mean there's basically two types of shows that are being impacted I it is largely broadcasts so because of the march timing. A lot of broadcast shows things like grey's anatomy for example were in production and nearing the end of their seasons. A lot of those all almost all of those I like I said I'd be shocked at anything. Still up and running have been shut down so whether that means a show like grades for example had I believe it's on episode. Twenty one of twenty five for its current season. Those remaining episodes will are extremely unlikely to be shot the priority for resuming production. When it is safe to do so will be for shows that were in their final seasons. Things like supernatural which was at the end of I think it was a fifteen season runs and needs to deliver a satisfying conclusion. Things like empire And then there's the cable and streaming shows to your point things like Fargo which was in production it was on episode eight of ten F X removed it from its April premier date because it's unclear when those final two episodes will be shot and this is again. I'm a small close ended show with only ten episodes. That tells one specific story so those will eventually have to go back up. Things like stranger things which no netflixing is going to have to finish. Because it's allegedly one of their top rated shows so yeah there's this is creating quite a quandary for a lot of people in the industry. Plus of course there's scores and hundreds of thousands of people who are out of work actors producers directors Set Duck assistant directors crafty hair and makeup. It it's just we're just at the beginning of of of seeing what the larger impact here is we're talking with Lesley Goldberg of the Hollywood reporter about the shutdown in TV production if a show gets delayed and then started up again down the road. There's no guarantee of access to the things that show might need like a sound stage. Directors Editors Writers. Those things are booked months and months ahead of time so even though this hypothetical that could be a big problem down the road couldn't it? Yes well we are already in this peak. Td climate where you had six hundred plus scripted shows. And that's just what was ordered. We're not. I'm not even talking about the sixty broadcast pilots of those that were just ordered between January and in January and February. Only one has completed production. There are some that haven't started at all some that. Were halfway through some that? Were all but done but needing to do post. Nbs acts which is another facet of the industry that has yet to be impacted. Those rooms are still working albeit on trimmed down stages but we're seeing a massive rush for things like production space and when everything shuts down at the same time and will need to resume the crush and the schedules for those limited down stages. I mean some of those. Those facilities were already backed up and scheduled out a year or two years or more down the line and there are a couple of important dates coming up the up fronts or sales presentations by the networks cable channels and streaming services to advertisers. And then the start of what might be the traditional fall TV season. How do each of those look impacted right now? Well right now. Because this is a rapidly changing scenario and our world. No one knows what next week is going to look like let alone next month. So right now we know that the May upfront presentation. This is where broadcast networks present. Their fall schedules of new shows in return chose to Madison Avenue. Ad buyers that typically generate six billion dollars of advertising revenue those presentations are all being scrapped in favor of digital presentations which I've really detail which have yet to be ironed out. But the question becomes is if you can't produce a new pilot and pick up a new show because there's nothing to show because nothing's been film or it's incomplete. Do you presents an incomplete schedule to add. Buyers will add buyer. Still be buying time if we are headed toward a recession there are a lot of variables here so streaming services with library titles like Netflix Hulu. Disney plus an Amazon have a catalog of older work that they could use but what about legacy broadcast networks like ABC CBS and NBC? At what point might they run out of content because they really don't have library that they can put on there? Well they can still air repeat the current seasons which would be a boon to writers right now because they're paid residual for show like raising airs. Repeat do they have unscripted shows that they could re air One of my suggestions was to just say okay. Well we're GONNA rare law and order. Svu from the start and we're GONNA marathon it and early every you know every night at eight pm you know or you know. There are things that they could do. They're still on summer. Unscripted programming that has been produced largely in the CAN Like world dance. Nbc which When things started being shut down last week it stayed stuck it out one more day to complete in order to complete season and there are a handful of shows that that did that because they want to eat complete a season or an episode. Lesley Goldberg is a West Coast TV editor at the Hollywood reporter. Leslie thanks for coming on the show. Stay safe and healthy. Thank you same to you. Coming up next on the frame the art for this designer it truly is an art of making the perfect movie poster. We know you may be tired of hearing about the corona virus everywhere you turn so some of our content will be coverted free like this interview with artist. Akiko Stern Burger who designs posters for movies. She's created standout movie and TV series posters for projects including dead pool to portrait of a lady on fire and veep. She recently released a book with dozens of her poster designs. It's titled Akiko Matic. I visited Stern Burger at her highland park studio when such meetings were okay to see some of her prints in person and we started with her designed for the two thousand nineteen film. The last black man in San Francisco. I wanted something very simple and striking but also surreal at the same time and so when trying to come up with concepts for the poster. I was thinking of things that screamed San Francisco without being the Cliche Golden Gate Bridge so upon research and researching and researching. I finally came up with this idea of like. Oh they have these incredibly steep steep streets. I just thought that this image of him leaning forward and and shifting the perspective of the camera would be intriguing to someone to see. And then when you look closer you finally get it when your brain shifts and you notice that he's just on one of these crazy steep streets and I thought it was a good way of representing both metaphorically and literally his his struggle in this film so I was really happy when the client.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Hilarious and you out yeah he actually you you do it tell tell everybody about the the take TV's top five podcaster do yes beacuse top five podcast is a weekly podcast that I do with my teacher colleague Lesley Goldberg who is Tina Turner's house stick calibration reporter if there's any news in Hollywood and TV it comes from Leslie and it's it basically structured as we go through the week's biggest news stories and each episode culminates with my critics corner which means we talked about TV as I do and then we do a weekly show runner spotlight where we've talked to some really spectacular show runners in recent weeks including and gore Brooklyn nine nine this week's interview is with the after mentioned David Weill of hunters and it goes into a lot of the data on the things that fascinated me about the show so it's a it's a good conversation not respect but yeah we we talked with Dan gore on the podcast about the new season of Brooklyn nine nine about the fact that it's been renewed for another season he wanted to emphasize that very clearly because he you know he knows the chance of the night and I'd get a little bit which is what happened when fox cancels your show right all he wants sure everyone get fifty don't need to worry there's one more season at least after this one and they're not doing that you can as being the last season that Sir away yeah so cross your fingers but yeah I know it's it's such a good show and it's just so good to have broadcast comedy is still be around and so the fact that good places now gone is in satin or OR one out for you could play Hanson there is still she is still Brooklyn nine nine there's still super store which I think is a really really good show in the to start reduced for another season the plow so some successful really good comedies on but yeah so I will people need to watch your Brooklyn nine nine I just I just laugh out loud every single every single episode and I I I really love you know how they're handling hundred Brouwer's character now as he is he has you've been demoted and I thought they handled it beautifully it you know during last week's episode that's the kind of thing the show has in the past kind of glossed over one of those big turn everything upside down twists for months an alley and then keep that one episode in the next season and then get back to business yeah well shows tend to do that because you don't want to overturn the premise of the show entirely but the fact is that you can old in a diminished professional capacity and it really just allows you to let Andrea brown would do more of what underpowered has been so brilliant that on that showed it doesn't actually up and what's so funny about that character because so much of what's funny about that character in the way you puncture choose a blizzard dignity and so they've just been having a lot of fun I think the intent and I I got to tell you I I happen to be a a ridiculously massive fan of Vanessa Bayer and she came in and stole the episode he was so funny she ate everyone knows the your window that's a fair answer no issues she is really good and she requires I think she require specific usage which is part of why she hasn't had her own sitcom vehicle that's been successful since you left that's an album I think we're part of it is that is that I just don't think you can you can just turn things over to Vanessa Bayer but if you use her in the right capacity and if you use her surrounded by the right equally talented people I think she's extremely funny and I like the character they gave her on the show it was very very funny is it a it you know and I know you hated the show but is anybody is anybody watching indebted in also what a great cast but it's a terrible show is it wouldn't understand it is it is a very bad show it is this is a show where you have to be sickly the North Carolina what any of them are doing and you just have to say I love Adam pally from happy endings I loved Abby Elliott from the very brief period she was on SNL when they barely gave or anything stupid she did a really good very more information the I love Steven Weber kacy Steven Weber and printer sure is a certain kind of national treasure I don't know she's necessarily you know do you she should or could be everybody use national treasure what she does she does spectacularly well yeah and it's all just stopped in to an entire Lee less than generic NBC sitcom which she couldn't really figure out what its premise is what it's Boise is I've seen you weapons so and they're all kind of different from each other because I just don't think anyone knows what the kid who the characters are what they're doing there why they're funny all I can't imagine this is a show that's gonna have a long run and I don't think it should I think everybody involved should have the opportunity to better things what's what's what's the general premise of it I mean it's just you know a as you said it's a generic family sitcom what's the general premise and who played a what it global issues a couple and this is the ideal yet and tally sheet and now it's in the opening scenes that they're excited that after your kids going through there he came about finally ready to help you live should there celebrating that they finally have once the doctor and they have to our lives under control the other thing you should discover very quickly that their kids are still warring XIX or something what do you what do you know who celebrate getting their life with cancer or in fact it makes little sense I think some point this must have been written as a currents whose kids finally graduating high school they become empty nesters and then their parents moved back in which has been the premise of but after five years course than they thought Adam pally interested in they said okay plan will never will lower the gauges the characters and it makes no sense so anyway they're celebrating their getting their lives back despite having two kids in elementary school or younger and then at that point she is Terrence clippers people ever for international announced that they are deep in debt and that they are moving back in to the house for some reason and the nature of their debt using how to sing the first episode relating to medical bills would turn never mentioned again and the gap becomes something where it's just sort of like okay well I guess maybe they need money but it's not a serious thing and maybe they're living at the home but maybe they're not it just whatever the premise is it just evaporates into space and it becomes Fran Drescher being a luddite and seeing things about the tweeter and being vaguely racist but her characters only take the research in the first episode she's been just becomes kind of Kenya we Domon subsequent episodes it's just so inconsistent and it's one of those shows that it I have to blame on on developments words where it's like a network executive had to make sure they knew what the show was before the war they meet a pilot and before they ordered thirteen episodes of it as opposed to in the process wow okay that sounds that sounds terrible the problem is there also looks are you sit coms this means she isn't that have almost the same premise there's outmatched on the on fox which used to my mind slightly better than a couple of the poem which there's that other one on EBC United we fall CBS has world which is coming out in a couple weeks and they're all you sickly the same comedy and none of them are funny well that's that's not good okay I didn't find burger from.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA
"NBC universal has released some of the details of their upcoming streaming service is going to launch in April twenty twenty and the service will be called peacock they say they're gonna start with more than fifteen thousand hours of content with library titles like the office and parks and recreation and original content such as reports of Battlestar Galactica and saved by the bell for more on this we spoke to Lesley Goldberg she is the co host of TV's top five podcasts for The Hollywood Reporter well takes its name from the iconic NBC logo is more than sixty years old peacock will be an ad supported platform Comcast cable subscribers will get peacock for free they will have an option to step up to another tear that ad free for a small fee and non count Comcast subscribers will also have the opportunity to buy into the service as well for what I told a different city we know that it'll debut in April twenty twenty but we do not know a specific date original programming will launch later in the summer the entire Comcast portfolio will use the summer Olympics which is one of the biggest events of the year if not the biggest event of twenty twenty for television they will use the Olympic Games as a launch pad for peacock so expect a lot of promotion around the Olympics for the streaming service and whatever content they will have with originals at launch after the games are over I mean that's going to be a great vehicle for them to get the word out obviously as you mentioned it's the biggest thing for TV everybody's gonna be glued to their televisions watching coverage and that's one of the key concerns as as the field of all the streamers really starts expanding how do you make a name for yourself obviously one of the big thing is original content but still how do you get the word out and using the Olympics as a foil to that is going to be hugely beneficial to them and then you can expect a company wide promotion behind peacock as much as they're gonna promote the Olympics they're going to promote peacock as well and you can expect to see ads for both things all across the NBC portfolio so the broadcast network the slew of cable brand. USA network sci fi E. Bravo oxygen they will all be promoting this both of these things and in terms of how to cut through I mean look the fact that this streamer is something that's going to exist alongside the likes of the Warner brothers entry which is HBO MAX Disney plus blue and YouTube still sort of doing originals though not really of course Netflix Amazon that controlled by Disney the piece that's hard to cut through with all these is what's going to differentiate the streaming service from all these other ones and the main answer here is going to be property that is owned by NBC universal's various studios they will have a wide variety of library titles including one of my favorite Friday night lights everything from Brooklyn nine nine to keeping up with the Kardashians to parenthood to Bates motel and thirty rock all those titles will be shared with flu and other outlets that they're streaming on until those deals expire at which point most of these will wind up becoming exclusive to peacock the big way to get people in the door is with big favorites and lots of library programming the office is a great start to that so when it launches they say that they can have more than fifteen thousand hours of content obviously original program is going to be a huge part of that what we know about the original programming that's slated to start for this new peacock service while using the libraries as a backbone that's going to be really wants you look to for our originals so knowing that they have the office and parks and recreation one of the first things they picked up with a new show from my sure who created parks and recreation and was an executive producer and course recurring actor on the office that show will start at helm's school force was a star for me all right and they're gonna do the same thing on the drama side so they were we'll have the library of Ron Moore's sci fi favorite Battlestar Galactica and guess what the rebooting Battlestar Galactica with one of its most important cable focus producer Sam Esmail creator of Mister robot and Amazon home coming and as for other originals there leaning. into the people who have eight nine for your overall deals with the company so Lorne Michaels will have a new docu series focusing our writers behind SNL which by the way as an L. the entire library will be available on peacock they're also looking to Seth Meyers to exec produce he's gonna do AT late night sketch show imagine Jimmy Fallon only doing the opening monologue that's what he's gonna do amor Ruffin who of course is from his show from late night with Seth Meyers or whatever that was called or late late show with that Myers is too many we chose many of everything. Lesley Goldberg west coast television editor at The Hollywood Reporter and co host of TV's top five podcasts thank you very much for joining us. so much of a letter. you're listening to.
Netflix, CBS And Sony discussed on The Frame
"One day at a time the Latin x centered remake of Norman Lear nineteen seventies TV show of the same name is back for another season. Netflix canceled the series back in March. But yesterday pop TV CBS owned cable network. Announce that will pick up the show for a fourth season. Lesley Goldberg is the west coast, TV editor at the Hollywood reporter, and she joined me talk about the deal and told me, why Netflix canceled a series to begin with Netflix. Like many of the other streamers and the upcoming ones will not and do not, and will not ever release exact viewership data. So it's very hard to measure shows or movies success. But, you know, we'll look, I interviewed Netflix, head of original Cindy Holland back in April. And one of the things that she said was that didn't make economic sense to bring back one day to time for a fourth season part of what how networks does make its decisions is. They look at how much they're spending on a show and how many new subscribers. It's bringing, which of course, we don't really know either way. I mean that's looks reports. It's quarterly subscriber gains and losses. But you have no idea, how much of that is tributed to their decision to renew, or cancel the new show. But with their with the billions of dollars that they're spending on original programming every year. It's the, the decisions that they're forced to make our will fourth season of show like a of a show. One day time bring in new subscribers. Or would we best be us using the millions that we're spending on that show to do a new show that could bring in more, one company did feel the economics made sense, and that is pop TV so who is pop TV? And why did a show like this make as much sense to them as it didn't make to Netflix? Well, we should before we even talk about pop TV we should give credit to the producers of one day to time. And that's Sony Pictures television. The independent. Studio and they were successful able to save this show. This was their business dealing, and this is look this is ground. This is TV history. This is the first time that you're seeing a scripted original show that was picked up and aired originally on a streaming platform, moved to a linear network like pop TV pop TV originally known as the TV guide network. It used to be co owned by Lionsgate television and CBS about a year ago CBS wanna buying full control. So this is a niche, basic cable network, that is owned by CBS, and, you know, look, CBS, digital platform all access what really express a lot of interest in picking up one day at time, but because of the original clauses in Netflix contract it prohibited. Any other streaming platform aka any Netflix competitor from picking up this show within a few years, and nobody's gonna wanna wait multiple years to pick to revive a show that winds up. Being expensive. You have to re promote it people have lost interest. You know you you strike, while the iron is hot. And that's exactly what pop TV did as for why they picked it up. I spoke with pop TV president Brad Schwartz yesterday on Thursday, and one of the things that he mentioned is, this is a very, very small network. They have only a handful of originals shows what be it scripted and unscripted. That's largely network that is home to repeats of some big pop culture, syndicated shows, like Buffy the vampire slayer Dawson's creek the original Beverly Hills nine oh, two one. Oh, charmed. And the reason this was interesting to them is first and foremost. Everyone CBS from Brad Schwartz to the executives like Joe Iannello and David Nevins over at CBS creatively. Loved the show, and it made sense for pop because this isn't network that as I mentioned is very big on the stall. And they looked. They're sweet spot. Viewers are people who love stuff from the eighties nineties, look, no further than what their syndication, their syndicated content is ROY. Right. That's the sweet spot Dawson's creek. You don't get much more nineties, and that Buffy the same thing. And the fact that, that this what they picked up is actually a reboot of show, that, that many of its viewers already have an awareness of because of the original from forty years prior it really hit the sweet spot, so creatively. It's an IP. It's, it's intellectual property that it's audience already knows said that. It's, it's unprecedented for a show to go from a streaming service to a cable network. Does that mean it was legally difficult to unwind the deal at flex and get it on this new platform? So in terms of setting, you know, the legal precedent. This really was a business it move. So because Sony owns the rights to the show it become becomes there to figure out what they wanna do it. However, I will say that Netflix does own because they paid for and have a contract to keep those first three seasons. Netflix will remain the exclusive home streaming home to the first three seasons of one day at a time. But in the new deal Sony gets a whole lot of rights back from Netflix. Because of their pass on season four. So that means that Sony will now be able to sell the show internationally which it never did with Netflix because Netflix is in many international markets and Sony. Also in a couple of years we'll have a streaming library starting with season four. And if the show goes five six seven through ten like producer, Mike, Royce told me he wants it to they're going to have a streaming library to sell. So, you know, in APR twister fate one thing that could happen later down the line is Sony could say, hey, we've got you know, seven more seasons of this show net. Flicks, do you want buy the library to go with the first three? And even if the one day at a time fan base didn't have a lot to do with coming back on pop TV are they at least happy now that it is coming back overjoyed? I mean, it's, it's like Christmas in June. This is this is a deal. It's never been like I said, it's never been done. A streaming show has never moved off of that to find another home. Usually, it's the other way around where Netflix has been heralded as, as the save our. Show champion because they've revived so many other shows in recent memory. I mean designated survivor was canceled at ABC and moved to net flix, FOX cancel Lucifer, and Netflix picked it up. I mean, there's so many shows that Netflix has done that with. And now this is the very first time. Netflix said, nah, no will pass and left it to the studio to find a new home for it
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Download
"And it sounds like the report suggests they're going to be spending half a billion dollars to sign up Jj Abrams. What do you think about this? Yeah, we'll shout out to my wonderful colleague Lesley Goldberg who first broke this story on Monday that it was nearing an end this race for JJ. Listen, it makes a lot of sense that Warner media needs content for this new platform, and, you know, they, they need to lock in talent. You know, the proliferation of all these new platforms means that talent has never been more into manned. And if you don't lock them in, in these big overall deals, you, you lose out on getting them onto your platform. And, and when you're spending a lot of money and hiring a bunch of exact to launch the service and a few months, you gotta have. You know, big names producing shows for you. So, you know, it made a lot of sense that they were willing to shell how a lot of money for someone like Jj Abrams, snow, a when I talked to your colleague, Tim Goodman, TV critic the Hollywood reward TV critic he has this theory, and he's written about it, that, you know, there's a little bit of danger in getting behind a big creative giving big creative person a bunch of money, because you you're spending money on tried and true talent. But what we are they in their career? Are you going to be missing the money that you could be spending on finding the next Jj Abrams, or great Berlanti, who's getting paid four hundred million to produce shows for Warner Brothers TV as another example, or Ryan Murphy, your shonda rhimes, these kind of big name producers, one of the things that strikes me Abrahams though? And I know his previous TV deal was with Warner Brothers so they ended up of like going back to Warner, but he has a movie deal at paramount that's ending. And apparently, that's gonna get moved over to be part of the Warner media thing is people don't realize. Just how many TV shows Jj Abrams has percolating. They're not all written. In fact, most of them are not written or created by Jj Abrams. But the bad robot is involved sort of deeply involved in it. And so you're not just getting somebody who will create and write a TV show in direct a movie here and there, you're also getting somebody who has built this company that is a really productive. Westworld is a good example like Jj Abrams. His name is on Westworld is he is he a writer creator? No. But his his company produces it and there are a whole lot more like that. So Warren media's not just getting an tour here, the right. They're getting a whole production company, that's been like incredibly prolific and successfully. Yeah..
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Fuck around and we'd do because Falun like plays games. We have a fun doing that with Seth we go on, and it's just like the Bancer his like a one, you know what I mean. And it's just like different. Yeah. Different. I don't have Chris asking us ask. Because they're all good. There's no late. And he got a Di. We can also have the thing professional, you know, how they whatever they call it like vision, board, you put something on there. It's gonna happen. What professionally that you haven't yet gotten to do? Would you most wanted to, to give 'em e acceptance be? Yes. Oh, yes. The care about like, who won. I was just like taking the speech. Do you wanna webby, but the webby thing was, like you have a five word? What would a these are some Mero. Emmy acceptance speech, definitely coming on every person in the Bronx alphabetical order. So Anthony Angelo, Barry Angelo, Christina. Agile. It's probably like this interview just thanking everyone, that's in their people complex from vices everyone that's helped us. Get to the point. We're at that point our career because the thing is I us winning is so many people helped us get to that moment. And we always see even the fan, people just like I'm so proud of you guys like you have sixteen years coming up like you guys feel like my son so proud of you, and just like we'd have to all those would there be certain visual that we might see. Just go outside and put Cup your ear. You hear the whole Bronx sharing. No matter where your if you hadn't gotten the I guess the original thing would have been the Email from complex and this career path not happen. Would you be doing today? Funny story, we were actually about to star podcast before complex reached out only problem is we had no idea how to do a podcast I was sitting at my desk, googling how to do a podcast I actually reading for this kind of thing. So, so you think that's why you would be I think what we definitely would at least give it a shot on. We were just like there's something here, this, definitely something here. And if it would have blown up, we would have kept on doing it while maintaining our day jobs. The podcast just kind of successful but never led to all this. We probably it was still fun doing just like some podcast, just be doing, you know, the last question asked to be our neon sign. Absolutely. Got our neon. Can't wait to put that EMMY on my coffee table. I am not going to have any more children. What I love you Adrian Avery Amari. And his alia N, Heather for birthing them. But if I did have a fifth child, it would be named AMI. It's a long. Appreciate. Thanks very much for tuning into awards chatter. We really appreciate you taking the time to do that, and would really appreciate you taking a minute more. Subscribe to our podcast for free on I tunes or your podcasts up and to leave us a rating as well. If you have any questions comments or concerns, you can reach me via Twitter at Twitter dot com slash fiber. And you can follow all of my coverage between episodes at T HR dot com slash the race. Finally, be sure to check out the other podcasts that are part of the Hollywood reporter's podcast network, all of which are excellent Lesley Goldberg, and Daniel, Feinberg, TV's, top-five, set Finally, be sure to check out the other podcasts that are part of the Hollywood reporter's podcast network, all of which are excellent Lesley Goldberg, and Daniel, Feinberg, TV's, top-five, set the branch and chip pope's. It happened in Hollywood Caroline. GR. Dina's behind the screen, and Josh wig, lers series, regular on behalf of all of us at the Hollywood reporter. Thanks for tuning in.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on TV's Top 5
"Let's just get back to the idea of a supernatural spinoff why you've got Batman. Which is I we would all be shocked. I've said multiple times if that. Doesn't go ruby rose doesn't sign onto just guest are in one episode of superhero show and do a pilot and not do anything at the same time. This pilot season the network is already working on spinoffs of Riverdale. And Jane, the virgin, which is the latter is going to be an anthology with Gina Rodriguez still participating in some form as an exact producer. And I believe the narrator. But I mean, all of their pilots this year. They have a loss boys reboots that again was redeveloped from last year, which I think was redeveloped from the year before or something crazy like that charmed is coming back. They have all of this IP of their pilots this year, only one of them glamorous about a gender. Non conforming highschool grad is based on an original idea. So why do you need a supernatural spinoff? They never attempt to redevelop the post apocalyptic Little Women said in Philadelphia with zombies. What's up with that? I you know, that's what I want them to try again on. No, I just think you talked about the revenue streams if it's about keeping them open. I think the Jane the virgin spinoff is frankly, the one that's a lot harder to justify. I understand that creative. While you want to keep everyone involved with it happy. But there's no there's no ratings justification for that too. But on the other hand, you wanna keep Gina Rodriguez happy, and then the family has become the face of that network. She has despite again starring in the show that is not watched by that many people. And so you do still have a large supernatural audience. I just don't know why you would cut it off. I I don't know this -sarily like you make a huge deal of of. Here's what the spinoff is. We're planning on it because I feel like that's a mistake that they've made in the past. But if I were pedal wits, I would be telling the writers look introduce a couple of people who you like let us know who they are. We'll have conversations. I I would not say, okay. Here's what the spinoff. It's because that has been a mistake for them, and it has caused a lot of fans to be pissed off on an almost annual basis when it doesn't get picked up. But I would say look, I know you're tying this up. But also if you happen to find a couple of good characters, we're not closing the door on this Bill. But they've done that in the past where they've had fan favorite characters. Do a spin off. And then it doesn't go. I mean, and that's gotta be heartbreaking for these actors. I think so I I would guess and without knowing anything that you could probably do something weird involved me Chicagoans coming in a couple of times as a guest star and being sort of the connective tissue. But I mean that that goes against what pedal was was saying at where it's like this show is the guys and at this point those three stars make oodles of cash doing fan conventions on weekends. They make more money doing those conventions than they do doing the show that made them famous in an able to do those conventions in the first place if you have not googled, Leslie spectacular and a word winning story on fan conventions. If you Google Lesley Goldberg teach our fan conventions. It's a superb story and really probably will tell you more about the business of the CW, and the people starring on it, then anything else, we could tell you 'cause that actually included reporting. Thank you, Dan. Your check is in the mail. Excellent. Well, I think that's a good transition for our next topic. It's time for our first mail bag segment. Last week. We unveiled a listener feedback MO line, and you responded with some great questions. Many of you.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"The Walking Dead season nine episode six is over. But we are just getting started here on the Walking Dead polls show recap. And now here the two guys who are about to make some awesome buco or I mean, Stu, I am rob sister Nina here with Josh Wigley. Josh, how are you? I'm good. I'll take the buco. We're making stew now. I'm putting in the requests on changing the menu. It's awesome. Buco? It's also Buca week here on pusher. Recaps already buco week nuts. The different. Oh. That'd be a great week on Bush recap says it would be already buco episode would be mealtime with the Allen wall. Well, but that's not what we're here to talk about tonight. It's the Walking Dead two point. Oh, yeah. This is like, I don't know. We're certainly nine nine point something we're getting closer and closer to season to any seven. Starring Judith the joke that we always joked about it. We are getting very close to being a reality. First off just a lease is on assignment this week. A regularly scheduled vacation for gesture will be back with me next week to talk about episode number seven, but we are in a great luck tonight because we have host show recap and the Hollywood reporter's own Josh Wigley here to hold our hand through the new time jump. Edition of the Walking Dead, and I'm very excited because Josh I need your help to explain this strange new world to me. Yeah. I, you know, I don't have a lot. But I do have unfortunate amounts of Walking Dead know-how brimming through my brain. So I think that I can help you here. I think I think that I'm going to be able to get you through this. Okay. So I guess start off what have you filed so far for t- HR about this? So so I should say first of all that a lot of a lot of the great coverage that you're seeing on dot com slash Walking Dead. Some of that's coming for me. The lion's share has been coming from the great Lesley Goldberg who had incredible interviews at Andrew Lincoln coming off of his time on the show show runner. Angela king Scott and gamble as he is sometimes known. So there's been great stuff going on over there in the wake of helicopter gate now. Now, we're turning the page. We are now officially in the post Lincoln era, and I'm going to be running point on a lot more on Walking Dead beginning with a full blown post mortem that I've got with Angela king up on T HR right now talking about all the different changes that happened here in Walking Dead in really I mean, we are if you wanna call it Walking Dead two point. Oh, I'm not gonna fight that we're in. I think we're officially in the territory of this is basically a new show. Now, we are. We're six years past the point that Rick Grimes, supposedly blew up. I didn't actually die. We're six years on from that moment. And obviously a lot is change father Gabriel getting it like a lot has changed. That was exactly the same. He was just getting it. But he's getting it again different person than someone. New someone familiar yet new. Yeah. Okay. How many familiar yet new things happening here in the Walking Dead season nine episode six? All right. Are you now? Okay. So I'm looking forward to talking this through with somebody who has seen this all and be able to make sense of it. Okay. Josh would absolutely be able to make sense of this for you as well. Obviously, I meant as opposed to the person who if you king occur. Yes. I'm speaking for high own one hundred percent, can I ask you a question before we get into this. Please interview me how are you feeling? Are you feeling? Okay. Are you feeling any better than you felt last week with Walking Dead? Having watched this episode was this a better experience for you. Or a worse experience yet. This was fine. I know gripes with it. I think that there's definitely some interesting things that happened in this episode. And look, I I did feel it was a little slow in terms of like, let's cut to the chase with the new people that I don't know how much of the tribunal we needed to see. But I felt like long tribunal was kind of a long dry like we get it there new people. We don't know who they are. Let's see let's cut to the chase a little bit with that..
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"I think that's actually talking that through you know, that in the Commonwealth storyline gets reunited with her daughter a daughter that does not exist in the world of the TV show. So maybe like the row the really emotional reunion for shown could beat the promise of some Rick out there in the universe who has been here in the Commonwealth. And now she's going to go off and find him. And that's how it was shown. Yeah. That was the prevailing theory that I heard about it. Interesting senses. Anything else? But I also think you are vastly underestimating the shows ability to draw things out granted, we don't have Scott Gimpo. Bearing down on every little detail of the show anymore, but they could certainly draw this whisper war thing for another two or three years. I hope not I really hope not. I really really hope they don't do that. I think one of the strongest things about this season is the pace. I think that the pace has been on point. And I think that we're probably at a point now where things aren't going to move quite as fast as they've been moving, but it's been such a breath of fresh air because Walking Dead 's narrative, typically moves as slowly if not slower than the walkers, you know, it just limps forward. So little time passes from really from. I would say the second half of season six when about a month passes between the the attack on Alex Andrea and like a month later when Rick and machine finally solidified their relationship. It's basically that's like a couple of weeks between that point and the end. Of all out war, maybe two weeks at most. And it's just such a crawl and to have gone from that pace to two weeks spanning two and a half seasons to go from that to almost a decade has passed in one season. It's just so refreshing. And I think it's it's such a defining characteristic of the speed with which Angela king is telling the story now that she's in charge of the Walking Dead. I just hope that that at least theoretically somehow drives the action forward if not like months passed between episodes, I'm fine. If that's not what's happening. I just hope that the pacing of story arcs is a little bit better than it was in the past. And I say that fully recognizing that this is the Walking Dead, and I should be careful not to get my expectations too high all the thing that was getting me through last season was the promise of the time. Jump. Yeah. And now we've gotten three time jumps. So it's an embarrassment of riches, really. Lauren Cohen's, not on the show any more. Did you guys talk about that? We did in brief. But is this really are. We not seeing anything of Maggie next episode is she gone for good. So this ever gonna explain that? So this bears out from the reporting that the incredible Lesley Goldberg, my boss and great friend at the Hollywood reporter did in building up the hype around this Walking Dead episode and doing a lot of post mortem coverage on what had happened was in speaking with Amy Abe AMC's programming president, David Madden and also talking to Angela king. She was able to find out that not only was this Andrew Lincoln spinal episode of the Walking Dead that was Lauren Cohan's final episode of the Walking Dead for the season at least whether or not she returns at some point in the future remains to be a remains to be seen. She will not be seen. This season, it would appear and I don't know. I don't know if they're going to I got to imagine that they will have to address like Maggie and Hershel went off to blank, you got imagine that though, explain her apps and tonight think that that's something where this huge time jump does do them some favors, and they can have a little bit of flexibility in where they're going to send Maggie off.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Post Show Recaps
"Would like to really reiterate that we are grateful for your ears and your feedback and josh will definitely be back and we will do a recap of season two before he's in three starts a hundred percent one hundred percent and again i'll reiterate with joe said you guys have been tremendous so much fun to interact with you online you've been very very kind or all just having a good time here in doing the best that we can trying to process this crazy crazy fricken show also give a shoutout to steve's panty and robs esther nino both those guys who who made the gist of this podcast happen behind the scenes huge thanks to them huge thanks to lesley goldberg at the hollywood regard her for for co hosting us here all season long that was super fine hopefully we will get to do that again for season three i think either way joe and i we will certainly make our way back to your ear buds before too much longer special thanks thanks to both mike bloom and emily fox who who pitched in on on multiple weeks of the podcast when you and i were both away at certain points this season joe i thought they both did a great job when they filled in so many they were excellent hosts taken out of cold storage and now they're in warm storage because they have been revived yes yes yes indeed i just and we must be overhearing we right now just got the tax when we're going so i will i will take that as my clue clue that i should probably get outta here and go spend time with my wife i you remiss unless i mentioned this that this weekend and hopefully by the time you're listening to.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the two hundred twenty second episode of awards chatter the hollywood reporter's awards podcast i'm the host scott feinberg and my guest today is one of the reigning kings of comedy he's a stand up comedian writer producer and director who's been a driving force behind many of the funniest tv series and films of the last thirty years among them the ben stiller show the larry sanders show freaks and geeks the forty year old virgin knocked up super bad bridesmaids girls train wreck and the big sick i'm talking of course about judd appetito now at the age of fifty appetite is as busy as ever making films got eleven in some form of development and tv shows to which are currently active hbo's crashing on which he serves as an executive producer and occasional writer director and netflix is love which he co created and on which he also serves as ep and occasional writer and director but he recently received some of the best notices of his career here for directing documentary the then diaries of garry shandling a four and a half hour to party b o film about his upon mentor and friend who died in march of two thousand sixteen appetite i discussed all of the above plus much more but i i was joined at the offices of the hollywood reporter by lesley goldberg our west coast television editor and the primary force behind the blog the live feed to chat about an utterly insane week in the tv landscape with the june eleventh start of emmy nomination voting just around the corner leslie thanks for coming back thanks for having me scott so i don't even know where to start with this week this was crazy i guess the the biggest news has to be the fact that the top rated show on television got cancelled never thought you bill to say that did you i can't remember a time when the number one show on tv in terms of total viewers and an end in the demo was outright canceled and i'm not talking about hey the mash series finale seinfeld calls today but out of nowhere boom gone by by roseanne and.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on KCRW
"I am joined by my colleague lesley goldberg for a special additional tv banter leslie has covered the affronts for the hollywood reporter and we are gonna look at trends in the tv world now that the prints are concluded for this year and the big presentation to advertisers in new york by all the broadcast networks this year has been marked by this thing that never seemed to exist in the past which is you know it used to be your show got cancelled you were sad and that was the end of that but now as is the case with brooklyn nine nine and another sitcom last man standing the tim allen sitcom cancellation does not equal death that's one hundred percent right and part of the the reason that we're seeing brooklyn nine nine and last man standing move around is based on their ownership the studios that are affiliated with nbc picked up brooklyn nine nine after fox cancelled it and fox picked up last man standing it's studio twentieth tv owns the show which originally ran for abc was cancelled last year so when these things go to other venues like you know they stripped episodes of two and a half men or big bang theory already which is still on the air this very profitable thing if you own these shows and you can make more of them to sell you make money and it's in your interest really if the network were you sold it in the first place doesn't want it to go back to your home network which probably passed on it when it first was a thing i mean nbc passed on airing brooklyn nine nine when the studio that it owns created it but the world has changed a lot now you go back to nbc and say hey look we've got five seasons of this thing do you want it to die now or would you like to keep it alive a little longer.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on KCRW
"The right and overall belief in what binds together so why can't pass the senate to the point where ever you get your podcast coming up in about twelve minutes kim masters features dan gore with t hr's lesley goldberg in the scoop about brooklyn nine nine dramatic reversal of fortune that's on the business coming up at two thirty right here on casey are w this is marketplace i'm kai resolve the television ratings of late have not been kind to cnn for all the headlines and presidential rage tweets that it gets the original all news cable network trails fox news in nbc in the ozo important prime time hours cnn is hoping to start turning that tied with a new show tonight cuomo primetime it's called with their former morning guy chris cuomo an hour of live in depth news and analysis is promised an antidote of sorts to the back and forth and back and forth and back and forth of most of cable news whether it's going to bring the ratings boost in the extra ad dollars that cnn wants a needs here's marketplace's were not a sago cnn's marketing for cuomo primetime focuses on one on one interviews with washington bigwigs and key players abroad forget about the spin this is about how we got here darrell west is vice president of governance studies at the brookings institution he says an emphasis on one on one interviews as potential to give the network's primetime viewers more of what they may be looking for during the trump presidency people weren't the background on an issue they want to go in much greater depth about what is involved and so the oldfashioned panels were there three or four people arguing with one another doesn't provide enough depth for people in this criteria that has been a staple of cable news so cnn's willingness to try a different approach is probably tied to its ratings the latest survey from nielsen show cnn is losing the primetime cable news race it's got nine hundred forty four thousand viewers from eight to eleven pm eastern time compare that to two point three million for fox news and one point seven million for msnbc that was the.
"lesley goldberg" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the two hundred tenth episode of wards chatter the hollywood reporter's awards podcast i'm the host scott feinberg and my guest today is a man of many hats he's a stand up comedian who was a central figure in the early days of the alternative comedy movement he's also a podcast host who show wt f with guests ranging from robin williams the barack obama helped to popularize the podcast as much as anything and most recently he's made a name for himself as a character actor with his work on the first season of netflix comedy series glow garnering him critic's choice and sag award nominations with an emmy nomination potentially to follow the one and only mark merit but i i was joined at the offices of the hollywood reporter by lesley goldberg our west coast television editor and the primary force behind the blog the live feed who join me to talk about her view of the tv landscape at the outset of this emmy season leslie thank you for joining us thanks for having me you regularly a lot of shows on the broadcast big four network cbs nbc abc fox at a time now when their audiences are still the the largest generally by far a most of the time the okay a lot of them are but increasingly undermine by cable and streaming competition and i just wonder what you if it's even a fair fight in your mind if it makes sense that they are grouped together at something like the emmys when these guys have to produce so many more episodes they have to work within the confines of standards and practices that places like hbo and netflix do not are we talking about apples and oranges here should they not be in the same category.