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Mayor De Blasio Announces 'Hometown Heroes' Ticker Tape Parade
"Amanda Blasio has announced a ticker tape parade through the Canyon of Heroes for next month to honor essential workers. That announcement apparently omitted funeral workers got them as reported. Ben Jaca says many of them feel the role they play throughout the pandemic has been overlooked. It seems as though people are still really uncomfortable talking about death and talking about the really stark scary things that happened last year when it came to these refrigerator trucks. And all the bodies literally piling up all around the city. City Hall spokesperson says they always planned on including funeral workers in the July 7th
U.S. and Iran Holding Talks Via Nuclear Deal Signatories
"Countries are doing their utmost to resurrect the Iran nuclear deal in the coming months. Talks open tomorrow with two other signatories to the accord, China and Russia. NPR's Eleanor Beardsley reports France is calling on Iran to show a constructive stents. Following a call with his Iranian counterpart over the weekend, French Foreign Minister Jeeva Julianne said in a statement that he's asked Iran to refrain from further violations of current nuclear commitments. The U. S. Will not take part directly and discussions Tuesday. But for the first time since the Trump administration pulled out of the Iran agreement in 2018 and reimpose sanctions, Ah U S delegation will be present. The 2015 accord lifted economic sanctions on Iran in return for restrictions on its nuclear program. The talks are intended to help identify steps necessary to return to full compliance with the nuclear deal. Iran says U. S sanctions must first be removed. Eleanor
Minneapolis police chief begins testifying in Derek Chauvin trial
"Or hearing from the Minneapolis police chief who's been quoted saying he believes George Floyd's death was murder. The prosecution is focusing on police Department training that show Vin has cited in defense of his actions during Floyd's arrest last year. During which the officer kept his knee on Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes earlier, the jury heard from the emergency room doctor who pronounced Floyd dead after trying to resuscitate him. Prosecutor Gerry Blackwell as Dr Bradford Longer felt if the paramedics who reported to the scene of Floyd's arrest Indicated they suspected a drug overdose or heart attack. There was no report that, for example, the patient complained of chest pain, or was clutching his chest at any point or having any other symptoms to suggest the heart attack that information was absent. The witness testified that based on the information he had at the time he believed that Floyd most likely died from asphyxiation. The other officers charged in connection with Floyd's death are expected to stand trial this summer. The White House
What the Deal to Legalize Marijuana Means for New Yorkers
"Cuomo reportedly struck a deal yesterday. To begin the process of legalizing recreational cannabis for adult use. In New York state proponents contend that opening the state up to legal weed will create an industry that will generate tens of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in tax revenue for the state. Yesterday's agreement specifically addresses the punishing toll that the uneven enforcement of low level marijuana offenses in the state has had on poor black and brown communities. It includes a provision to re invest millions in tax revenue generated from cannabis sales. Into these communities, and the state plans to set aside a portion of business licenses for people of color and women. Now, these plans have generally not produced the intended equity results. In other legal weed states. So can New York do better? What are the terms of the agreement? Why now? And when will you be able to walk into a store and buy some with me now on these questions, and more is Alice and Martin, co founder of Cannabis Wire, a news organization covering the cannabis industry nationally and globally she's been described as the queen of the we'd beat. And she's monitoring the legislative proceedings in Albany. Very closely. Hi, Alison. Welcome back to W. N Y. C. Hey, Brian. Thanks for having me. I always love coming back and let's start with that basic last question first, if this does pass next week. When can people walk into a store or I guess they'll be called dispensaries and buy marijuana products illegally. Well, you know, I don't have a crystal ball like anyone else. But I would say Ballpark at least a year, maybe two years. It takes time to get the market up and running. It takes that much time. Well, rulemaking. Of course, that's that's really the sort of sausage maker after bills passed, then you know a lot of lot of heads, get into the room and figure out sort of the nitty gritty details. Will there be any
CDC warns movie theaters are dangerous places to be if you are not vaccinated against Coronavirus
"Let me start here. Movie theaters We opened in New York City over the weekend. We've we did a call in on that for people who went back to the movies in the city. This weekend. They've been open many other places for a while with capacity limits. Is there any good data on covert spread and movie theaters? You know, there's plenty of data that shows that Cove. It does spread quite effectively and closed indoor settings. And so that is still technically considered a high risk setting. And I would say I would only recommend doing something like that unless he if you were fully vaccinated, and you know that the people that you were going whether fully vaccinated that I'm gonna always there on the conservative side here. But indoor activity has always been considered based on the data, high risk
New York City high school reopening plan coming next week
"Mayor De Blasio says he is aiming for public schools to reopen fully next fall. Wi sees Jessica Gould has more the era of hybrid learning could be over soon. Speaking on the Brian Lehrer show, the mayor said he envisions welcoming back all students in person in the fall. We will be fully open in September. There would be five day a week instruction for everyone. But de Blasio says some students may prefer learning virtually and the city plans to offer an all remote option as well. More immediately, he says, next week he'll be announcing a date for high schools to reopen to in person students. Hey, schools opened in October but shut again in November when Corona virus cases started to rise sharply. Elementary schools have been open since December. Middle schools reopened last
Ron Johnson Makes Senate Read 600-Page COVID Relief Bill Aloud
"Got to this morning's official debate on the coronavirus relief bill in the Senate Republican Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, decided to make a show of his opposition to the bill by having the Senate clerks read out loud the entire 628 page thing. New York Times notes as a point of reference that the sixth Harry Potter book clocked in at 652 pages, and many of you know how thick that was, By the way, that was Harry Potter and the half Blood Prince. In case you were wondering Imagine reading the whole half blood Prince allowed without a break. The relief bill took 10 hours and 44 minutes at about the same length. Here's 44 seconds of what that was like. Section 27 oh five funding for grants for healthcare providers to promote mental health among their health Professional workforce section 27 06 funding for community based funding for local substance use. Disorder Services section 27 oh seven funding for community based funding for local behavior. Health needs section 27 away funding for the National child Traumatic Stress Network. Section 27 09 funding for Project Aware section 27 10 funding for you Suicide prevention section 27 11 funding for behavioral health, workforce, education and training. Section 27 12 funding for pediatric mental health care access section 27 13 funding for expansion grants for certified community behavioral health. on it went. The reading ended at just after two in the morning. Washington Time
Calls for Governor Cuomo to step down
"Small group of progressive activists and elected officials marched outside Governor Cuomo's office yesterday and called on him to resign. WN my sees George Joseph has more The protesters were outnumbered by the press, but they were passionate Amelia did. Cotton, a Queens Democratic district leader, says she made up her mind after hearing about the dubious nursing home death numbers and the harassment allegations. If I were in a workplace and I had those allegations, I'd be fired, and there's no reason that the governor of New York State should be held to a lower standard than anyone else. Most Democratic leaders haven't done the same. Instead, they've been asking for an independent investigation. Cuomo did not respond to W. N. Y C his request for
New York Sues Amazon, Saying It Inadequately Protected NYC Workers From Covid-19
"New York's attorney general, is suing Amazon over the company's alleged mistreatment of workers during the pandemic. Attorney General Leticia James says the company failed to take adequate health and safety measures. To protect employees in New York, for example, by knowingly operating at Staten Island warehouse with dozens of workers who had the Corona virus and not notifying other workers who came into contact with them. James says the company also illegally fired employees who raised concerns. A spokesperson for Amazon says the lawsuit doesn't paint an accurate picture of the company's actions. It sued James's office last week, alleging that she is overstepping
Iran issues rare threat to develop nuclear weapon if "pushed"
"His country could push for a nuclear weapon if international sanctions remain in place. The remarks were carried today on state TV. And they mark a rare occasion that a government official says Iran could reverse its course on the nuclear program. A judge has Excuse me. A judge has
New York City Mayoral Candidates Unite To Stop "Superspreader" Ballot Petitioning
"New York City public advocate Germany. Williams and seven of the leading mayoral candidates are urging city and state leaders to suspend ballot petitioning under city and state law, candidates must gather thousands of eligible signatures to secure a spot on the June primary ballot on the Brian Lehrer Show. Mayor de Blasio said he thinks candidates need to do something to show grassroots support. There's lots of ways that could be done, potentially including online, so I very much would like to see. Change here because we're in the middle of pandemic, but I am not certain that something can do alone. DiBlasio says he thinks the change would need to be made at the state level.
South African Variant Of Covid mutations May Be Stealthier
"And let's start with some of this vaccines versus variants news you recently wrote. Madonna and Fizer Both said their vaccines were effective against new variants of the coronavirus discovered in Britain in South Africa, but they are slightly less protective. Against the variant in South Africa. Why might the South African variant B stealthier So the South African variant has some mutations that are very tricky. It has one in particular that's called the Forward four K that changes the shape off the spike protein a little bit That's the protein that the vaccines are using to generate an immune response. And so the idea is that if the shape of the protein has changed a little bit that the antibodies find it a little bit harder to latch on to the protein, so the vaccines are a little bit less effective. Good news, though, is that they are effective. I mean, these vaccines are so good, so much better than we need them to be that it's not really a big deal to lose a little bit of their
Black and Latino New Yorkers Trail White Residents in Vaccine Rollout, New York
"Sharon W. N. Y. C. And since the earliest days of the pandemic, as you know, black and Latino people in New York City have died from covert 19 at twice the rate of White New Yorkers. Now is vaccines become available. Those communities that have been hit the hardest are not getting prioritized in a rollout system that seems to be giving an advantage to groups that skew whiter and wealthier. According to City data released over the weekend, three white residents received a covert 19 vaccine for every black or Latino person in the city. So more specifics. White people make up 32% of the city's population. Would have received 48% of vaccine doses. Well, Latino residents make up 29% of New York City residents, They comprise only 15% of vaccine takers. The black community accounts for a quarter of the city. But their vaccination wait is nearly 11%. The data is incomplete because a large portion of non city run vaccination sites and failed to report vaccinations by race, But public health experts say that this data that we have shows a definite and concerning trend that is being repeated in much of the country. With me now is City Council member Mark Levin. He chairs the council's Health committee and is calling on the city to make specific changes to its vaccine rollout. And we also have doctor who J. Blackstock. She has some of you know, from her appearances on this show and elsewhere, is an emergency medicine physician, founder and CEO of advancing Health Equity and Yahoonews Medical contributor. She has suggestions for the Biden Harris administration to fix an excellent equities in the distribution system. At the national level. Welcome back to WN my see both of you. Hi, Good morning. Brand. Thank you so much Frying and council member for listeners who did not hear the mayor's press conference on this over the weekend. Can you further elaborate on the data that was released? I know you and others. I've been calling for its release for weeks. Well, we We have an incomplete picture. Brian. I want to stress that we only got a piece of the data which illuminates inequality, but it does offer race and ethnicity breakdowns and you ran through them. White New Yorkers are getting vaccinated at triple the rate. Of African American Latino New Yorkers. Really, That's the discrepancy. That's even greater than some of the other covert inequality that we've been seeing in this crisis. But we're still lacking something really fundamental. We have no zip code level data. Which could compare the Upper East Side to the South Bronx, Um, another critical view of inequality. It's really perplexing that it hasn't been released yet. Because the day that the data is there. The city collects addresses on everyone in vaccinate, so we're still fighting for more transparency. It's not too soon. To get beyond hand breaking ringing and 0.2 solutions. We need to fix this. We need a new Web registration system that stop blocking out people who don't have tech savvy or English language skills. We need to stop. Of crowding out people in vaccination sites and low income neighborhoods who are competing against people generally white, middle and upper income people from all over the region. We can do that. By having prioritization and scheduling for local neighborhoods at their vaccine site. We need to change eligibility and away that fixes the era of committing so many critical groups like people who deliver food people who work in taxis in restaurants, nail salons, people who are who are incarcerated. And finally find we have toe get out of City facilities and go door to door. We have to be going door to door. Vaccinate. We actually can't deliver the vaccine door to door for people who are homebound. Other states are doing this and also simply to make appointments for people who are not able to Get onto a home computer. Let's go door to door with ipads and sign people up. This problem can be addressed and we need to not just talk about it. We need serious action. To reboot our equity strategy for
Amanda Gorman makes history as youngest inaugural poet
"It's interesting that Democrats choose to honor poets and Republicans aren't really into that. That aspect of the inauguration. I think it's really Really beautiful the way poets have been able to stitch together an American collective narrative through their poems. You know, in the past democratic inaugurations, I've remember my Angelou. Marry Angelo reciting that poem, and I think that was the first time that I was moved really internally moved by hearing her words and then, obviously Elizabeth Alexander. So I'm looking forward to today. I think s so many of us feel a five relief but also cautiously optimistic. I mean, we we do know that there are domestic terrorists of sort of threatened to ruin this day, so I think a lot of people want to get to 12 o'clock. And they want to get sort of. They want to savor the day but also get through the day. So it feels like a new administration is on followed footing. And here's maybe where the poetry and prose meat a little bit as reported in USA Today this morning. Amanda Gorman told the AP that she was not given specific instructions on what to write for the inaugural poem, but that she was encouraged to emphasize unity and hope. Over quote, denigrating anyone or declaring Ding Dong. The witch is dead over the departure of President Donald Trump. She's calling her inaugural poem The Hill we climb. Woman says she has been given five minutes to read. I believe the My Angelo poem also was five minutes prior to what she called the Confederate insurrection on January 6th. She had only written about 3.5 minutes worth, she told the AP. She said That day gave me a second wave of energy to finish the poem, adding that she will not refer directly to January 6 but will touch upon it. She said the capital mob did not upend the poem she had been working on because They didn't surprise her and quote the poem isn't blind. It isn't turning your back to the evidence of discord and division. So some
Capitol officer praised as a hero for handling of mob
"Of alone Capitol police officer who happened to be black, now being described as a hero, letting rioters inside the Capitol chase him. As he chose his path strategically to draw them away from where members of the Senate were and toward a different room, where he had backups waiting.
Gynecologist on what is known about COVID-19 vaccines benefits, risks for pregnant women
"Lindsay and Randolph you're on w. N. Y. C with vaccine expert Dr Ruth Karen from Johns Hopkins. Hi, Lindsay. I thank you guys so much for having my call. Sure. Sure. No. I am currently 25 weeks pregnant and health care worker so I am eligible in my feet. Get the vaccine and actually have an appointment on Friday. You know there's super limited data on pregnant women getting the vaccine and so I was just curious as to your thoughts about pregnant women. Getting the vaccine on, but the potential risks and benefits are to that. Right. So, um, So thank you for that question. Lindsay, and I think it's I think it's a question that probably many people, and maybe many of the listeners here have, um, what I would say is that we, um, unfortunately, we don't yet have a lot of data from studies and pregnant women. For either of these vaccines. We do have some data. There were women in the trials who this trial's did not include pregnant women. But there were women who became pregnant and the course of the trials. Just a very small number for each trial on Bui have not seen any adverse outcomes from those, um, from those studies. Um, but again, those air very small numbers. Um, there is, um, you know, I'm sure that you've seen the statement from the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology. Um, which Is somewhat helpful and that it goes through some of the considerations. But at the end of the day says, Of course this is a decision between you and your, um, your health care provider. There is not evidence that M R and a can harm a pregnant woman or harm the fetus. We do not have that, Um, that kind of evidence. Um, and there is not Theoretical reason to think that these that this product would be harmful. There are side effects of these vaccines that pregnant women might particularly want to note and fever is something in particular. And I believe a cock has recommendations around pre medication for fever, You know, considerations around pre medication for fever, particularly In the case of pregnant women. Um I can tell you interestingly, of course, um, recommendations for pregnant women very in countries. So in the US, we have what's called this permissive recommendation. Um, the UK Great. Britain has recently changed its recommendations They initially recommended not using the vaccine and pregnant women. They're now saying that pregnant women Who are on the front lines because they're for example, because their healthcare workers should consider using the vaccine. Muchas we are saying in the U. S. And Israel. Pregnant women are being prioritized for vaccination on day. There are many pregnant women who are because of their risks that you know the risks of covert and pregnant women. Pregnant women are at greater risk. A serious disease from Cove it than non pregnant individuals. And so that is why that population is being prioritized in Israel right now. Um Boy, the visor of vaccine and likely will be the same for them. A daring A
New York City’s mayoral election needs an upgrade
"Democrats running for the office of New York City mayor. But some political analysts say the candidates haven't offered enough specifics about what direction they want to take the city in W NY sees Brian Lehrer show Daily News columnist Harry Siegel said few of the Democratic candidates have released detailed policies and plans including around crime, and the NYPD. The police need to be doing more Do they need to be doing Wes? We have the right number of police is this is this way too many Can we afford this? Given the massive budget shortfall. The city has that those are the sort of questions I want to hear these candidates engaging with now. The Democratic mayoral primary is on June 22nd
ANALYSIS: So You Wanna Be New York City Mayor, Huh?
"How Do you see? Large democratic mayor of field shaping up in general. So far, it is kind of overwhelming for people to get their minds around such a long list. I said We were gonna go down through the list, and this isn't even gonna be Complete list. We've begun having the candidates on the show already, and I keep saying to the listeners this June primary is going to come up on people faster than you realize. But my goodness the field is so crowded. With Eric Adams in Scott Stringer and Maya Wiley and Shaun Donovan and Kathryn Garcia and Ray Maguire and Carlos Man, Chaka and Diane Diane. Morale is and Laurie sudden. And that's an incomplete list. And now we're here. Max Rose and Andrew Gang may both be getting in are their lanes in this race like we used to say in the presidential primary, the conservative rain laying the progressive lane or how can a voter who isn't a political science professor like you begin to sort this out for themselves? Right. I mean, in some ways, it's both overwhelming and underwhelming at the same time. I mean, sadly, so many voters can't really fully focus Brian on local elections, just Jack because we haven't gotten past January, 20th And especially for voters of color, Knowing what the president has has said the types of people he supported his members of his own party, essentially trying to actively create a coup within American democracy. It's a very unsettling political moment, and a lot of folks can't really focus. Fully on a local election until there is a peaceful transition of power, which quite honestly is not guaranteed at this moment. And so once we get past January 20th it's a 2 p.m.. Then I think that there's a sigh of relief when we can start looking at. Okay. Well, who are who are the millionaires? Who were, you know, sort of waking up in the morning, saying I should be a leader? That's one bucket. Who were the folks who were currently unemployed and need a job. So hey, I should run for mayor too. That's another bucket. Who were the progressive folks who have interesting ideas for New York in some sort of some sort of managerial experience, but no previous electoral experience. That's another bucket. Then you have sort of the you know the politicians who have been elected to office once or quite a few times, and they want to expand that sort of leadership style. In a city that might be looking for something totally different. And so we have minimum four buckets. Obviously, there's descriptive politics. Some people think it's far time that New York City has female leadership. Some people want to make sure that there's leadership of color, whether it's another black mayor, Post Dinkins or if we should have someone from the Latin next community, and so there's lots of different angles. I think right now because it's so crowded. It's hard to Even hear what people actually saying. But also that's on the candidates, because because of rank choice voting, many people are reticent to attack their opponents. They're reticent to say any big, bold ideas. It's kind of a milk toast election as a as of now, that's not garnering any attention. From the vast majority of New Yorkers. And we know that municipal elections in New York City have have abysmal, embarrassingly low turnout for someone who will not only be the leader of New York but political figure on a national even international scale. Can I just? Yeah, e You want to say something really quickly about Henry's point about 1993 moving forward with crime. I think we need to back up just four more years and think about the Dinkins years and what Mayor Dinkins was was successful and trying to re imagine the police department in a more community policing way, and we have to be honest about the amount of money we pay out as citizens. For bad behavior of the NYPD and how bad officers are continuously protected on considered, I would say, terrorized particular communities, and the fiscal implications of that bad behavior, you know, goes beyond just training. It is a fundamental re imagining that mayoral candidates must talk about because there's something going on that Justin The top brass leadership. But there's some sort of corrosion throughout particular departments in the city that needs to be rooted out in a real substantive way that we just have never seen before. Well,
"lehrer" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
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"lehrer" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Lehrer on WNYC so how do we get out of this social distancing has been disruptive but we know ending it will certainly in fact and kill so many more people especially since scientists now think some people may be a symptomatic carriers of covert nineteen and we don't yet know if you can get the virus more than once with us now a doctor and an economist together who have written the Wall Street journal article called testing is our way out Paul Romer a twenty eighteen Nobel laureate in economics is professor at NYU and former chief economist at the World Bank he's also advising governor Cuomo now and Dr Rajiv Shah president of the Rockefeller Foundation and former Obama era head of the agency USA ID which helps promote development and democracy and developing countries their joint op ed in the Wall Street journal is titled testing is our way out professor Romer doctor Shaw welcome to WNYC thank you for being here yeah so what you're both proposing in the wall street journal out that I see is a system of two types of tests that we don't yet use to determine if someone has called it nineteen doctor shot you want to start and explain the two tests sure well look I think the first I'll just say the biggest lesson we learned from actually beating the threat of a bola in West Africa was getting testing to be ubiquitous fast and effective without that we're stuck in this tragic situation where either you shut down the economy through extreme lockdown and social distancing or you re open and allow waves of re emergence of the pandemic itself and so given that and we did successfully do this by the way in in West Africa we got testing down from seven plus days to under four hours in terms of how long it took to get it confirms positive now we have to do it within minutes and what I call and I have proposed is a national strategy on testing that would be resource at an extremely high level and Paul can describe why even a hundred billion dollar national investment in testing would be absolutely worthwhile if it moved the needle even a little bit at allowing our economy to survive but that too big the two tests and what is more important and the other is the PCR test that allows you to know do you have corona virus you could have that test within minutes find out if you have a corona virus and we think virtually everyone should have access to that and have access to it regularly and it should be rolled out much more broadly than it is today the second test is a is a serology tester test for whether or not you had it and therefore might be protected from immunity perspective that one there's still more work to do on the science to get those tests to be good and to be ubiquitous both are useful over time right now there's an emergency and we need to know who has coronavirus that those people can self quarantine can take themselves out of the system can tell their loved ones that they can't even be interacting with them inside the house and protect the people around them you cannot do this without data and you can't have data without real time cheap ubiquitous testing in the city from the articles that you are talking about testing people throughout the country at random to get up to date information about who's infected now and who's ever been infected so that's the doctors take professor Romer where does the economist into that part of the equation well to begin with it's important to remember that we have lots of people who were at work right now are essential workers that healthcare professionals police officers EMTs one of the very first uses for additional testing capacity would be to test them for some of them like the health care workers test them every single day so that you catch someone as soon as they are infectious at a stage where they're still a symptomatic they don't know their infectious but identify them with the test and then let them pull themselves off the line so they don't infect their colleagues this is a kind of a production we owe them and it would also be a very good additional measure to help contain the spread of the of the virus by these people who do have to interact so much with the the with the public now then let me address the the cost of right now the the the economy has fallen so fast faster than ever we've ever seen and recorded data and fallen's very far we don't know exactly how far because again we don't have the best data but a good estimate is is that we're losing three hundred and fifty to four hundred billion dollars every single month in lost output in jobs that are done in services that are provided goods that are not produced so if we could speed up by just one month the return to normal life with the widespread deployment of these these tests it would be well worth it would be a three or four X. rate return and the sooner we get back the more likely we are to return to the full level we were at before if this uncertainty this back and forth with walk down off continues for a twelve months eighteen months it's not just that we waited that long to recover when we recover we won't even be able to get back to where we were before so a hundred billion in kind of a a basically a health defense department along side of our normal national defense department would be the best investment we could make right now N. Dr Shah you write about how it's not viable to wait for a vaccine so the better method is to do this widespread testing or ramp up to be able to do this widespread testing of people for the virus and for the antibodies indicating that they have the virus and got cured you want to compare this to the vaccine scenario sure well look we we need a vaccine and that thankfully you know hundreds of groups of scientists and and investment groups and governments are working together to accelerate the process of getting a vaccine but it's going to take twelve to eighteen months then it has to be manufactured and distributed very very broadly in that period of time the potential threat for re emergence which we've seen in parts of China we've seen in Singapore we've seen in parts of South Korea are is very very high and keep in mind that once the flu season starts again in in August or September of of just a few months from now those same symptoms the common cold symptoms could both be caused by code nineteen re emergence as well as you know new novel corona and adenoviruses which is what the flu is that are relatively mild so we have to know who can be able to participate in the economy and who can't and we're gonna have to know that for what is a longer period of time than I think most people realize this is going to go on I had one additional point that I think is very important understand especially in New York the you know they've been photos of of folks on the subway going to work and those are the essential workers Paul talked about and a lot of them are the ones delivering food to the people who are poor then trying to be safe in their homes in their apartments a lot and they're the ones that are on the front lines of the health response and a lot of them are the essential workers who are keeping cities like New York and every other one in the country functioning while others are protecting themselves by staying at home those folks tend to be disproportionately lower income disproportionate minority and we know that they're experiencing a higher exposure rate a higher infection rate and a higher death rate right now from corona viruses this is not just this also requires understanding that if we're going to do right by those essential workers they're protecting the rest device who tend to be lower wage and tend to be more higher proportion of minority populations we have to do this to do right by them as well listeners we can take some questions for doctor G. Shaw president of the Rockefeller Foundation and Paul Romer twenty eighteen Nobel laureate in economics together as a doctor and an economist they've written an op ed in the Wall Street journal saying testing is our way out our phone number two one two four three three W. NYC and listeners if you're we're we're still holding on to talk to the mayor that segment is over if you're calling in for any other reason please be nice to a soul screener today ahead and hang up voluntarily and only if you have specific questions for this scenario the doctor Shaw and first Romer are laying out two one two four three three W. NYC two one two four three three nine six nine two and professor Romer how far are we from being able to do what you both are describing I mean I heard one news report yesterday that said never mind not having enough tests they don't even have enough swaps what yeah the Q. tips that you use I don't think you tips is the medical term but those swabs that they would stick up your nose to to take the test and there's gonna be a swap shortage so how far are we from being able to do this yeah let me try to explain that because this is a very important point I think it's a little confusing to people when the FDA approves a test there are a whole series of specific steps and materials that are part of that approved tests like this particular swab that goes way back inside your nose to get the the sample they're also specific regions supplied by specific companies that are part of the approved test the people in research laboratories around the world I have found that when they get a shortage of the swab or they get a shortage of a particular region from a particular company they can alter how they do the test still have a perfectly valid test and find a workaround for each one of those constraints now our regulatory system the United States has always meant that a laboratory a firm did not have the freedom the service switch to a different place where you take the sample thirty use a different reagent so we need to be sure that our regulatory system is not creating these chokepoints and if we remove those chokepoints trust me I could send you three papers that have emerged in in the past the last week to get around what sounded to many people like this huge you know bottleneck with with reagents so I think we just need to be flexible enough to understand that tests are not something like vaccines where the safety of the public is at risk and we just have to move flexibly quickly quickly and if we do that we can scale up testing much faster than people think we can easily be took testing at tens of millions of people a day within two months I'm now starting that we can even do it within one month if we just give some of these laboratories that have experience in this the freedom to just move quickly James in Manhattan has a question about this James you're on W. NYC hello could I call on March eleventh and got on to talk about this testing issue which is the central issue of getting out of this and restarting the economy because we do ask all our callers to log the exact dates that you get on the air no I'm kidding because this this issue is been I've been reading of it you know the the op ed and stuff like that just coincidentally that day Alan blinder had an op ed in the Wall Street journal said making exactly the same point testing has to be the central element to get out of this both on the health side and the economic side to collection question so we don't have any legal action so give me a Russian you but what's your question for today is because president trump disagrees he doesn't believe mass testing is necessary and it'll take months maybe a year or two thirds changes mind is it feasible that the states can do it on their own especially state like New York which is so reliant on the tourist industry so people be coming from all over the world every day we restart our economy how can a state or or a consortium of states do mass testing without federal leadership idols I don't know how that's possible let me give that to you professor Ramis insured visine governor Cuomo sure so the the first thing is is that the Congress is going to consider a new bill emergency bill I think it would be very important if we could get in that bill a commitment to spend a hundred billion a year.
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"Brian Lehrer on WNYC and it's weak line of remote learning for all New York City public schools and it's been starting up pretty much for all the schools in the greater New York area here in the city we have the biggest school district in the nation in normal times if you don't know the stats eighteen hundred separate schools serve one point one million students just to keep the sheer magnitude of this tectonic shift to distant learning distance learning as a reference point at the beginning with so many students having their life in education thrown into limbo we know this will be one of the harder new realities to adapt to for students for parents for educators so we will be following this closely in the coming weeks and months and W. NYC is teaming up with the education news organization Chalkbeat to cover it with the latest news now and to tell you how you can help report this story because they are asking for your help for the sake of improving everyone's experience I am joined by WNYC host and reporter should meet about shoe and Chalkbeat reporter covering public schools Lima I mean Sinead and Ranma hi thanks for coming on this morning hi thanks for having us and I want to start before we get into these issues by technology in the death of Mr Xander romaine and I hope I'm saying her name right the principle of Brooklyn democracy academy in Brownsville who died because of complications due to the coronavirus she was thirty six years old do either of you have anything to share about principle remains impact in her community yes so my colleague Alex reported on this actually a couple nights ago and you know we heard from as far as her legacy as a principal I think mostly what we heard was that she you know devoted her entire life to the school and she was really dedicated from all accounts to sort of making the school a fabric a part of the fabric of the community in Brownsville and that you know it was remarkable we also got emails in yesterday okay and people were sort of saying the same thing that she made it a point to get to know all of our students she really worked hard to try to make the school which was a transfer school first it is who are over age and under credited to try to make it so that it was a tailored experience almost for everybody who went there and so it seems that she stood out as a principal from all accounts that we heard now to me that you want to tell our listeners how you and Chalkbeat are asking them to participate I know you've got a big crowd sourcing project going just starting obviously with respect to the distance learning era and maybe we can get some calls going that it to the point of what you want to hear so what do you tell people what your project is and how they can best contribute sure WNYC and Gothamist have paired up with Chalkbeat we decided to work together to document this huge shift in the way that education is being practiced here in the New York area this is such an unprecedented time to be teaching to be learning and there's really no one better position to document this moment than the people who are doing the teaching and the people who are doing the learning and of course their families who are inevitably affected by this so there's lots of talk about remote learning right now but we really want to hear from from students from the teenagers who are being affected by it we wanna hear from the teachers who are having to shift the way that they delivered their lessons to students and we also are welcoming comments from parents because this is actually touching their lives a lot too we have a short survey that we work together to to put out and reporters from Chalkbeat are looking at it reporters from WNYC and Gothamist or looking at it and it just has a number of questions you can select whether you're a.
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"The Brian Lehrer show on WNYC good morning everyone as our world continues to change in this way that was unimaginable just a few weeks ago even just a few days ago I mean the world changed a lot yesterday afternoon with all the different closures and other announcements so we're all living to various degrees in a state of shock this morning and I just wanted to acknowledge that because I guess it's probably best to just say that out loud to each other to help us face whatever each of us is facing with us and to help us get through this together as a city as a country as a world I hope everybody listening right now has a good private support system we will keep trying to be part of your public support system and do our best to provide information and community but not everything is different and we began as usual on Fridays with our weekly ask the mayor segment my questions and yours for mayor bill de Blasio two one two four three three W. NYC two one two four three three one nine six nine two if you want to call in or you can tweet a question just use the hashtag ask the mayor Mister mayor welcome back to W. NYC thank you very much Brian brown I want to thank you for what you just said I think it's really really important that we have knowledge the shock for all and it literally seems to change hourly a lot of the time we have not been through anything like this and people are fearful they're anxious they're confused they have every right to be and I think it's really important that people at places like your show to turn to for accurate information and you know a real dialogue I really want to emphasize the people as a lot of anxiety and fear out there first of all listen to the actual official sources of information I can give you facts for example there was a a ridiculous rumor yesterday that all of Manhattan to begin quarantine that's patently false people want to get the truth can go to our website and why C. dot gov slash corona viruses can go look at can call three one one to get updates we also have a text which I'll get that for you right now what's the number people can tax to get regular updates texted to them they can watch obviously the the city hall a Twitter feed them and the author magazine management are constantly putting out the first information so anyone wants those text alerts and tens of thousands of new Yorkers have signed up for them you text the word covert C. O. V. I. D. again C. O. V. I. D. to six nine two six nine two and you'll get those sent to you and the last thing Brian which is to people's feelings and emotions which are real that anyone who's really feeling worried or anxious besides trying to get good usable information if you just feel you know worried depressed confused in a way you want to talk to someone professional any New Yorker can call our helpline eight eight eight NYC well again eight eight eight NYC well W. E..
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"The Brian Lehrer show on WNYC good morning everyone today we will look at the second coronavirus case here in New York and the communities it is having an impact on combined with a very aggressive measures that China took in Wuhan that suggests how widespread quarantines and other behavior changes around here could potentially become with the Supreme Court hearing another abortion restriction case today will also talk to Katherine Stewart who has a new book about what she calls Christian nationalism in the trump era in the U. S. including how Attorney General William Barr is trying to insert it more into the justice system will start and end the show today with reactions to the absolutely shocking super Tuesday results the Joe Biden search that nobody predicted and the people would have thought was impossible just a week ago after Bernie Sanders one Nevada so convincingly and biting kind of limping along in all of the first three states will discuss super Tuesday with the Massachusetts based reporter right now and a California based one later to bill Smith will give Jimmy all the extra hour of sleep out there west coast time to recover a little before he comes on one of the most surprising super Tuesday results and one of the most disappointing for some Democrats was that Elizabeth Warren came in third in her home state of Massachusetts she got just twenty one percent of the vote there to Bernie Sanders twenty six and Joe Biden's unexpected rise to first place there Biden got thirty three percent part of his national resurgence according to exit polls Biden one among moderates black voters and voters over fifty and Massachusetts looking nationally Warren met the threshold of fifteen percent of the vote needed to gain any delegates in each state in just five of the fourteen super Tuesday states as of the latest count we'll talk now to Jess Bidgood Boston globe national politics reporter she's in Michigan where one receive the results last night and where I'm told Bernie Sanders this morning to Michigan is one of six states that vote next week I just thanks very much for coming on we're in Michigan are you thanks for having me on in Detroit Laura wood before it took the stage last night really before any of the results started coming in so I wanna play a clip of senator Warren from after the South Carolina results came in obviously a big button when there and and then I'll ask you to compare to whatever she said last night here's one on Saturday after referring to the trump presidency as a crisis this crisis demands more than a former vice president who is so eager to cut deals with Mitch McConnell and the Republicans that hill trade good ideas for bad ones and this crisis demands more than a senator who has good ideas but whose thirty year track record shows he consistently calls for things that failed to get done and consistently opposing things that never the last he fails to start school that was Saturday night one was trying to thread the needle there obviously between Sanders and Biden did she make similar statements last night when she spoke last night she she took should I say I think that you took the vehicle for results came in and before polls even closed in most of the country so her in less light actually did not feel very connected with super Tuesday and that may have been intentional of course she is a fairly standard stump speech in front of us very excited crowd of about two thousand people I will say but she did make a few comments that she doesn't usually think on her account news comments concern to this squishy and hard to define issue of electability that has become I think something that she's always struggled she does struggle to put concerns about that that it's a concept certainly that can privilege management and data a male candidates over over female ones but she said what I see happening is a lot of folks trying to turn voting into some kind of strategy she said pundits friends neighbors are all saying you have to second guess yourself she added that pundits have gotten it wrong over and over and urged her supporters to cast a vote that will make you cry out and then it she told the crowd why she was still running for president she said I'm in this race because I believe I will make the best president of the United States and from there she kind of went into this stuff he talks about it every step she makes her background her policies those kinds of things so those are really the only words we've heard from Elizabeth Warren since the end of voting she has not yet made a public statement about last night's results and I've just gotten word from some of her age that she's talking with her team about assisting the path forward but we don't know anything more than that at this point listeners we can take any questions or comments you have about any super Tuesday result at two one two four three three W. NYC two one two four three three nine six nine two we'll take those calls with Jess Bidgood from The Boston Globe right now and we'll have another super Tuesday at the end of the show that's going to be more west coast oriented but we'll be able to talk about anything nationally then as well but for now two one two four three three W. NYC two one two four three three nine six nine two just one thing you just said there is really huge for Elizabeth wind and not to her advantage it's that everybody this year feels they have to be a pundit and not necessarily vote for who they like the **** who they think would be the best president but who they think will be the most likely to be trump in November and I imagine that's working very much to the detriment of Elizabeth wind it might come out fairly differently if people were just voting their preference yes absolutely and this is an issue that she started to take on more directly I would say in about January but she's getting a lot of questions from voters on the trail about people who knew they had people in their lives what's the what's the foreign origin could win and where that's going to vote for someone else and she tried to make the case to voters at that time that they had to that they should go with their heart she she started rolling out this catch phrase hope over fear but I not clear to me that she was able to make that case as actively enough in an environment where as as you say every voter kind of decided that they needed to be a pundit and voters around the country are making their decisions based on their assumptions about what voters in future state might choose or might not want to Q. you know which candidate can I strengthen who I think will then have a good shot of doing well in super Tuesday those are the kinds of questions that voters have been asking themselves and that came that that that can that that made it tricky for for a lot of candidates who who announced presidential runs and and and are you know no longer no longer running and it and it also is making it tricky for for candidates like Warren who are still in the race in the new York times today one of the article says once most ardent supporters said she was unable to overcome the extra hurdles for women running for president the attributed her weak support among non college educated voters to the same sort of biased sees that a bit that badly damaged Hillary Clinton in the twenty sixteen general election against Donald Trump are you hearing the same thing I hear that often yes Elizabeth Warren draws a lot of women it to her advantage and I've spoken with hundreds of them over over the past month and I hear a lot particularly as warrants polling lead began to slip women will say to me I just don't want to see what happened to her or to Hillary happened to her in in their minds they watched a very qualified female presidential candidate who's to president trump and and and that was crashing and I think they are feeling some of that same disappointment about watching a candidate that they believed deeply into that they feel is utterly qualified seating and and and and I did too I think for some of her female supporters particularly this feels like a very crushing moment the exit poll number I saw said one only one a third of her core demographic in her home state white college educated women only a third in Massachusetts of white college educated women have you seen any breakdown on where the other two thirds of those Massachusetts voters want so Massachusetts is is there is no way around it this is a this is a very very tough or salt for Elizabeth Warren even that just a few days ago it seems like it was a two way race for best use that's between her and Bernie Sanders and and and her supporters of her endorsers had been saying in recent days there is no such thing as a must win state they had been they had been kind of predicting their guys might do well because he did very well there in the twenty sixteen primary but I think Biden's surge in Massachusetts took a lot of people by surprise and to me that makes Massachusetts kind of an interesting lad if you will for how our narratives and the power of a small bench him when we hold the doctor Grove and second university and and W. B. easy cheesy Paul Bassett she sets out last Wednesday to Friday I think that whole sided with wave heights warrant Warren and Sanders I have a neighborhood about eleven percent while they were out at twenty two percent for ward twenty four percent for Sanders and I I think what happened in that time is that by the big win in South Carolina showed voters in Massachusetts and around the country give them a reason to say okay this campaign has had some large breasts woman has stabilized we know by then we we see him as someone who could beat trump and I think it gave them kind of a reason to feel comfortable voting for a campaign that has not always made people feel that way and I think that's a big part of where his Massachusetts surge came from and it shows just how powerful this resistance and just how willing to to to change their minds voters have been I've seen data that says that that among voters who made up their mind it's just the past few days I didn't did very well among voters who made up their mind a little bit earlier Sanders did well so Biden has ruled really had had I had a question commented that perhaps just the right moment after a campaign that we're we never guaranteed that that this is going to happen perhaps here's a question from a listener writing on Twitter the question is what is you guessed think about the idea that wanted to staying in to help Bernie at the convention I think there are many reasons that she could do if if if she decides to stay in the there are many reasons that that that she might or might not do so as I said we we know that she's talking to her aides to day and assessing her path forward and if he were to stay in until the convention she would have she she would have a certain number of pledged delegates and if you stay in until the convention you have or you have a little bit more say as more power over where your delegates might go I think the question for her team is going to be can she amassed enough delegates that that is a a useful thing to to to have or is it better at this point to to to let it go and those those are the kinds of discussions I imagine they will be they they they will be having two days stay as they think about the path forward another thing that that I think could potentially be interesting for her warrant if she does stay in there's a prospect that just a week or so from now she would stand on the debate stage potentially with only Biden and Sanders the smallest debate to Jacksonville number one then of course if Bloomberg stays in the race that would be her and three men that could be an interesting moment for her so I'm curious if if the possibility of this debate is going to factor in and also their calculations of of how you know whether or not to stay in and how much longer to stay and and and and what they what they what they want to do I think in the race that's a very interesting prospect that you just raise that if Bloomberg drops out which many people think he's going to then the televised debate next week could just be Sanders and by then and Warren match and if it was that from the beginning but it could be you know she's she's got a lot of delegates.
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"The Brian Lehrer show and if you would like to see good morning everyone and we begin as we usually do on Fridays with our weekly ask the mayor said when my questions and yours for mayor bill de Blasio at two one two four three three W. N. Y. C. two one two four three three nine six nine two or you can treat a question just use the hashtag asked the mayor good morning Mister mayor welcome back to W. NYC good morning Brian so you gave your state of the city address yesterday and the big room with a big well natural history and titled it save our city will you give us because most people didn't hear it the essence of what you think still needs to be saved after six years of your administration yeah and Brian this comes from talking to new Yorkers all over the city is seventy town hall meetings all across the five boroughs in so many other conversations and I think what people are feeling right now is very anxious about the future of the city because it's become so on affordable because are worried about being displaced and not able to stay in their own neighborhood because they see small businesses a lot of closing all the time they see vacant storefronts there's a tremendous sense of anxiety about whether this is still going to be a place for everyone and a livable affordable place or not you know in the speech I said look we we overcame huge crises in the past once upon a time people were fleeing the city because it wasn't safe and that was dominant as as idea and a concern for decades and we became a much safer city we became a city with a very strong economy a lot more jobs as a lot of things I'm very proud of is best in the last six years but I was trying to be blunt about there's a new and different kind of crisis that we're facing which is all about affordability and whether our neighborhoods will still be places for us you know whether this is a I quoted the the concept this land is your land from the famous song you know what that new Yorkers are basically saying to me all over we don't know if we're going to be the last generation or family able to live here and so what I propose yesterday was a series of very different approaches we've tried a lot of things and I can tell you a lot of things that help people to live here and afford to be here fifteen dollar minimum wage and a huge affordable housing plan and you know rain freezes free lawyers to stop evictions we've done all sorts of things but I'm being very honest having done the mall it's not enough for them to go to the next level so for example passing laws that will protect millions of tenants who right now do not have protections to stop rent gouging by the landlords huge rate increases on the topic unfair objections we need to do that we need to create community land trusts that one sure that public.
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Jessie yes he thorne. Were replaying my twenty ten interview with the late Jim Lehrer he was the host of PBS. Newshour in the moderator. At twelve presidential debates he died last last month. He was eighty-five. TV news is by. Its very nature of a linear form. There's no way hey to I mean. There is to some extent now in a new media but essentially what you're doing is unlike like a newspaper where you're essentially providing a smorgasbord of different stuff. Everything from Crossword Puzzles to jumble to international news to to real estate column. Television news is presenting something to you where the assumption is that. You're going going through from beginning to end and You know paying attention to all of it even if maybe you care a little bit more about one part or another how do you think that that linear irony that that need to sort of like make a judgment of this. Is The staff that everyone who's watching should get Effects Your News judgment relative to for example doing print type two. Well that's basically the old fashioned view. I mean it's the gatekeeper form of journalism. I've been a gatekeeper. For over thirty years for an I was an editor of a newspaper. I was a gatekeeper. Essentially you just outlined stuff comes in and you're no mother stories you don't do as well as the stories you do and it is absolutely right. It's linear now. The new world order information is completely or as it's coming at you all the time and it soon you're right and your left and it's over you under you. It's everywhere the the flood of information. You cannot go anywhere without somebody either yelling at you or the or telling you something that that you analytically or or otherwise it may be true may not be true or whatever in the old days in the linear days we would we we. The old fashioned gatekeeper would would would sort through all of that and then we'd have eaten diety newspaper or uneaten diety newscast. I now the horizontal what we're doing the news hour we are. We're going. We're I've as I've said a million times people I don't care if you watch it linearly as a television program or are you watch horizontally on a pink ipod. It's it's it's the journalism that matters and what we're also doing and everybody's doing it. We're not the only ones anybody if you're a see if you've got a gun a journalism perspective that is real and that is verifiable and professional. We'll make a deal with you. Collaboration to amortize Journalism caught. That's what we have to do the idea that that newspapers can afford to send two or three reporters to city hall. Forget it you know you they may send one reporter and that person may also have to television may also do blogs may also do radio do things which cetera etcetera etcetera and. That's what we all have to do. All of us who care about journalism and are are in the business we have to. We have to Familia familiarize familiarize ourselves with all of the horizontal stuff and let the mechanics. Worry about how we get all that out there And and eventually intially. What's happening now is it's become almost there's going to be a reinvention of the linear approach because there's so much stuff most people do not want to spend all day? Hey in front of a computer screen reading blocks or listening to rate listening to radio not your program. At other people screaming people do want to spend their whole day. You're listening to my program. Yes yes right. But that's the only exception that I can rig up everybody but that But but but I could do I. We would have folks six the new gatekeepers. They won't be old white men like I am. They'll be they're going to be a whole new generation of gatekeepers and they're going to have to build trust just like newspaper. A newspaper and television is whatever and And they will say okay I WANNA listen. I WanNa know what Jesse had to say today but I don't. I didn't have time to listen to. I want to hear the whole thing. Maybe but I WANNA be I if I do I want to be able to do it but also want to know what What what did the New York timesaver save this today and also by the way somebody? There's some this weird blogger out here cuts in and and somebody who does this professionally goes through all all of this for for people and that those those gatekeepers those people who do that are they have to build up trust and all that sort of stuff. That's where we're going that's where we're headed. There's too much stuff out there and it's driving people crazy In a good way you know all this information available but We they need some help. We talked about the ways that Resources shape priorities in in public radio news there was always this joke. It maybe. It's a little less applicable today but it is that since since there were very few reporters since NPR. Maybe had a couple dozen reporters they would mostly read about something in. The newspaper reported the next day and collar analysis in a funny way while NPR now say has of a few hundred reporters rather than a few dozen reporters and hundreds more. If you account local stations that perspective has been a strength of the form as as those resources have have grown rather than a weakness that idea that timeliness isn't the only essential quality of news and I wonder what what ways you can distinguish your news content. That aren't just first and most back but it seems. Public Broadcasting is is uniquely set up to compete and differentiate itself in other areas. Besides those two well I agree with you. I think that By the the in this new world order that we're in now if you want to know. Did they arrest the suspect. In the end the attempted bombing and at Times Square there you can find out in a second all right but the bid who was guy. Well what what are you about him. Was He part of the group. What group will what we're did group come from and use keep asking questions? Well was a law enforcement thing right What what about what why did they? How did this guy get loose To get on an airplane in the first plane. Why was it going to do by? Won't we're where's what is Dubai every step along the way. There's got to be a place that you can continue to go and public broadcasting in my opinion is the place that takes you through those various various steps and and you The the the we always got to keep in mind that the old way of doing things is which is the first thing you for us to be. The first time you heard about a story was when you read your newspaper the newspaper now you know everything you never know what happened and long before you ever see that newspaper. So what's the point of the newspaper now is to go start peeling back. Keep moving back moving back movement. One of the reasons newspapers are not doing very well because they haven't caught onto that they didn't they they haven't hired the scene they haven't they haven't trained their folks to move the story With where the where. The curiosity is about the story and in public broadcasting the news hour. We tried very hard to do that. And and Sometimes we sometimes we. Don't we fail it doesn't it doesn't work we cannot. We can no longer see ourselves as the first responder journalists. You've got to be that second and third year talk. You're you're you're you put your finger on it this is still a development stage for that And you've got to be compelling you gotta realize all kinds of places you can go second or third time second or third step after you find already know about arrested guy all right but now who don't want to take the next step and you get it's You know well I you know. I'm not just in the New York Times. Maybe but you've got to all be there and those of us who are who are in this business have to have to go with the new flow and public broadcasting gaffes should be leading the way some ways. We are some ways..
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"The Brian Lehrer show on WNYC good morning everyone on a day when the Senate will take its final impeachment trial vote I always Democratic Party may or may not finally released its full caucus results and there is a state of the union address to react to or tear up your own copy if you want to follow speaker policies lead our first guest today is relevant to all these things New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand is a juror in the impeachment trial was a candidate in the presidential race and was in the joint session of Congress for the speech thanks for coming on such a consequential day senator welcome back to W. NYC thanks so much for having me is the state of the union in twenty five seconds from the start of the president's speech and will invite you to react our borders are secure our families are flourishing our values are renewed our pride is restored and for all of these reasons I say to the people of our great country and to the members of Congress this state of our union is stronger than ever before shows senator Joe brand is the state of our union stronger than ever before I would not have given him such high marks I thought he unfortunately he lied a lot during the speech she told a lot of things to the American people that simply weren't true stuff about the economy stuff about people who have come off food stamps stuff about energy independence stuff about pre existing conditions it was really a very defensive speech and it seem to me to be much more of a campaign rally take speech then a proper state of the union I was deeply offended when he gave the medal of honor to Rush Limbaugh I thought that was very inappropriate and I really didn't like how he treated immigrants I thought that was extremely defensive and then just he made a lot of statements that just weren't true we fact checked a bunch of stuff last night and at least five or six claims were just through the fall and we could such at the president's claims all day and the news programs on the station are doing it to suffice to say for the moment that he took credit for many things in the economy and claim they were reversals from president Obama when really they're continuations of the exact same trends that have been under way for a decade but let.
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"Lehrer anchor of the PBS newshour host of the macneil Lehrer report has died in an interview that he did with PBS Lehrer talked about one interview that he remembers very well I think the most important interview I dad was the one I did with president Clinton that was the day that the story broke Charlie before he came in the rose about round I realize that you know had to ask him about it would you acknowledge though Mr present this is very serious business this charge against you that's been mine and I will cooperate in the in Korea Jim Lehrer was eighty five the C. H. P. is reporting an arrest in connection with the projectiles striking vehicles and injuring people along highways one a one and one fifty six in the prune Dale area recently fifty three year old Charles Lafferty was arrested in connection with the case now faces charges including assault with a deadly weapon that was not a firearm possession of a silencer and throwing a substance that a vehicle with the intention of causing great bodily injury San Francisco's new product top prosecutor says his office will no longer ask for cash bail as a condition for defendants pre trial release the filling one of his key campaign promises DHS of Bodine announcing yesterday prosecutors will use a risk based system instead and weigh whether a defendant might flee or pose a threat to public safety the chronicle reporting at D. able Dana said their cash bail system unfairly affects indigent defendants and people of color Oklahoma governor Kevin fit is banning state funded travel to the state of California the first term Republican says it is in response to similar travel bans the California has put in place on travel to Oklahoma Oklahoma was added to California's travel ban list in twenty eighteen after passing a law that allows adoption agencies to deny placement services to same sex parents and account by an environmental group shows the western monarch butterfly population wintering along California's coast remains critically low for the second year in a row they are style researchers said today the annual count of the orange and black insects recorded about twenty nine thousand butterflies compare that to the nineteen eighties one four and a half million monarchs wintered in forested grows along the California coast did you know the baby's brains are wired to pick up languages try playing music in multiple languages at home or in the car more tips at first five California dot com check in now with mark piano for an update on highway seventeen if you wait ten traffic is sponsored by indeed dot com the children auto body traffic deaths abroad were delays in the Santa Cruz mountains south bound on the seventeen of the some of the right wing to shut down it's actually a tree maintenance there and that's why you're backed up to about Idlewild north down Nimitz heading into Oakland we had this some sort of.
"lehrer" Discussed on Design Matters with Debbie Millman
"Life one hundred and one books how on Earth did you come up with the ideas for one hundred and one books will some of them had been stockpiling you know they've my previous five books were documentary works were nonfiction although they were expressionistic in their form they were about real people crossing the boulevard which I did with my wife Judy Sloane about new immigrants and refugees from all over the world who live in Queens prior to that I did this series of portrait books about eccentric Americans and I felt after the crossing the boulevard project which also had an exhibit in other branches to that I needed to eh needed to do a project where I could make stuff up but maybe get at the truth in a deeper kind of way so that was the impetus for that book you know I get these book ideas I'm always walking around with a notebook and so I had some of those but it took awhile how to figure out what the story arc was who this writer was and I sort of early on new he is in prison looking back on his life and careers I was also interested in this contrast between the narrative of of the maker of an artist of a writer in this case compared with the work that they make and sort of presenting to the reader that relationship of the Creator you've process I was envisioning how you could possibly keep track of the linear narrative in a book like this and imagine ginned your whole house filled with papers in terms of the direction of the story and how one connects to another which connects to an event which can next to a time and it was exhausting just thinking about her magin doing it parts seem really fun very fun did keep charts that kept changing because sometimes I would have a book idea and I would think it came at a certain let's say mid career for blue mobely and then I had come up with the title titles are up and funny and the covers then and do something else and then sometimes I write the excerpts so there are excerpts of many these books which read like short stories so I ride the excerpt and and then after writing the excerpt discover something about blue mobely since he wrote it that I hadn't realized and then the chart changes and meanwhile I'm continuing to write his narrative so it's this huge puzzle back and forth kind of Sarah Movies Strip the titles of the books are extraordinary some of my favorites I think my number one favorite is the phenomenology of lint absolutely amazing title then there was declassified which seems like it was an inspiration for the redacted muller report there's the self help book yes I can't ahead not to book there's pieces just another word for nothing left to kill which was outstanding and privatizing air and other untapped resources hell long did it take you to come up with one hundred one bucks well that was an eight year writing presses swale teaching at two different colleges and touring and doing everything else but eight years that year writing process the similarities between you and blue mobely are interesting for instance you both have roots in letter pres- he both appreciate how the printing press democracy is knowledge how much of you is in blue aside from the fact that he's in prison in you're not yet you know my father to reading the Book said You know Warren we never knew that you wanted to be a girl and hear these reading a novel in which the protagonists doesn't have a father and yet there's this identification with or some shit into this is just an alter ego I would say about fifty percent blues Mother's struggles with bipolar illness but it is also blues muse how did you come to understand mental illness and learned to write about it with such empathy through friendships with people who struggle with that so I've just learned through experience and my own late and lack of normalcy you consider the book in illuminated novel what does that mean well it means a couple of things lose writings eliminate his life his life illuminate his writings but also in terms of the graphic approach instead of an illustrated novel I like to think that the images which in this case in the case of that book was mostly the book covers that they the ad to the texts that they combined with the texts to tell a story instead of just sort of giving you pictures of what you're reading in the tax yeah I mean I think in this case one plus one on equals way more than two it's like five or seven may be because there's so much of this story that is built between the books the text and the visuals I understand that when you were doing events for the book launch people would come up to you and ask you if blue is still in prison or even still alive and then be shocked to learn that you'd made the entire thing up and that vexed you at first how come well I think I enjoy I did at first because there is a verse similitude to the whole thing that if people suspend their disbelief they think the characters real and the whole thing is real that's kind of a great thing but on the other hand I it it affects me only because I'm I'm not into fooling people I wasn't really trying to put one over on anyone it says an illuminated novel on the copyright page it says that this is a work of fiction everything is made up and so that that's the only sort of vexing part of it I think that it's so convincing as a life story that it could easily be a an autobiography you've said that you're working on fleshing out one of blue nobly books into a complete novel so which one and how's it going and when Louis C. that so I was pretty full on into that more than halfway written I think when I then took up working on this new book that just came out with Dennis Bernstein of poems that are now visual so I put a time out on that book and I'm hoping to get back to it in a matter of months and the book is called trace a surveilled novel and everything that you read in this book his by virtue of some surveillance technology so it's through email texts surveillance cameras bank statements police reports your laptop camera looking at you or someone activating that so everything that is read is through that and it's very difficult piece to write because it's not written from a first person in that way but I'm having fun with let's talk about your brand new book five oceans in a teaspoon pitiful title This collection of poems by Dennis j Bernstein longtime collaborator that you've brought to life visually the books roots date back nineteen seventy nine when you began working on a collection of Bernstein Short poems dubbed stretch marks but things took a detour and U. N. Dennis pursuit you'd pieces social security and French fries and other projects instead Steven Heller debut and Bernstein the Lenin and McCarthy of Viz lit how close of contact heavy maintained with Bernstein over the years we've remained good friends let me see the last book that we did together prior to this was a study of social patterns which was nineteen eighty eight but then in two thousand twelve his book a special Ed poems about being a special ed teacher and he was also a special ed student is a book that I helped edit and I designed but in a more traditional way really pulled back and letting the poems do their thing and then I was visiting him in twenty fourteen or fifteen when I was touring with a life in books and the he started showing me these new poems that he was writing in small pads smaller than I'm used to seeing him because he's always writing he's always got these notebooks reading these shorter poems and then I started translating some of these things typographically what was the aberration like did you have to show him what you doing in sketch form to get his feedback or did you show him finished compositions and the in hopes that he loved what he was looking at so right there in San Francisco where he lives so we've been three thousand miles part for thirty years I showed him this one poem which was called ten smiles where he had actually done little drawing tens miles and I translated that into parentheses the smiles and I showed it to him right away and he really liked it and very quickly decided we're going to do this as sort of co oh collaborators and then you know sometimes it's a hundred two hundred pages of iterations till I think it could be any other way and that's when I felt ready to send him in an email so it might have had one hundred rations before you would send yeah wow as fully couldn't be any other now he's going to hear this thing Oh my God what did I do too. I don't really like the W in that one warren can your fletch it around in a little bit but mostly he says and he said at the time this was like a gift you know struggling with various things and they get this sort of gift in the morning but also sometimes he would say wait we you can't break that line there because I didn't always stick to the lineage that he had that's the one nice thing about both writing and designing your own work you can be your own editor and ashamed anything you want when you're working with somebody else's writing so much negotiations some of the poems require a bit of effort on the part of the reader to just turn there's a poem that I'm referring to called a vowel hetty regard the notion of putting the reader to work well it's it's funny too because is in that poem which basically ends up saying that the vowels are in control of the consonants so the minority a minority which are vowels are like running the show reading the poem would be much better than what I just said so it is a mystery when you just look at the poem you can't read it you have to piece it together and I love that I love the idea of engaging the reader in the activity of reading and then hopefully when they pieced it together it's it's a revelation in 'cause smile and then our own performances of the poems and the poem that you the animated for living with Alzheimer's for example we see an experience the letter struggling to become words searching for memory thoughts halt rotate stretch and a confusion of pleasure of frustration and of habit and pathy and in many ways it feels as if this book is the sum total of your numerous approaches that you've developed over the years when you say that that's correct there is you know I was talking before about being self critical I'm not that critical of this book and I think part of the thing is how pared down on it is and I take I tried to distill the design or the visualization as I put it in a similar way and I think something is really working in that combination that's the title five oceans and a teaspoon deal distilled and that's me you know what I'm what I'm trying to do in the design as well it's quite a perfect little book and when I say little I don't mean in stature on Coltrane in that kind of approach to my writing and everything we talked a little bit about your teaching before I do have one wanted Zayn matters media is Secretary Pettit and the art director is emily.
"lehrer" Discussed on Design Matters with Debbie Millman
"For fifteen years has been talking with designers creative people about what they do how they got to be who they are and what they're thinking about and working on it was written the name is escaping me right now but it was written as a sort of send up of a play that this printer publisher saw it is this is somebody who was your mentor Louis Finkelstein my great teacher and someone also taught me how to teach I think we he also taught you something about turtles and grasshopper he you do your homework he said Warren you move too much like AH grasshopper I think you should move a little bit more like a turtle because I did have a tendency to jump and I and I still jump but I think I have more focused from which jumping but he said that Alvin Eisenman who was the director of the program at Yale at the time had said you know we do the best abstract art here in the graphic design program the MFA program at Yale when he said that to me and then when I came up for an interview they showed me concrete poet you know these projects that were visual oh literature they fed my illusion as to graphic design being this pursuit of abstract literature and I I found that my classmates who I very much like and learn from and had a good time with did have a different pursuit I mean they were interested didn't working in a more traditional way for clients and getting assignments in many cases that ended up being corporate so yeah but I coming mm-hmm to this more as a fine artist and a writer had my own project so when I was given assignments other people's problems to solve it seemed puzzling to me because I had plenty of my own you talk about how you try to write in a way that considers the form of thought the shape of thought and the shape of space and speech how do you go about doing that will that really we started at Yale when I eventually worked on this thesis project that was eight dialogues eight conversations and the title of that book was called Verse Ations so I'm also playing with the word verse and I read plays I read scripts a lot and it always bothered me that the flow of the reading if you're reading the name of the character and then the dialogue the name of the character the dialogue so that didn't seem like a working system to me so I came up with a system where you said each character in a different typeface and configuration based on their personality and you list their name once at the top and then their narrative their dialogue is not poured into an arbitrary column but like in verse the line breaks a very specific based on pause in the foot or breath in the speech and also in this book for stations the kind and of relationship that the two if they were flirting or if someone was being proselytized to those configurations were different and visual key these visual cues and performance scores because I was looking at musical notation I understand that part of the reason you wanted to go to yell was she wanted to learn the tools to compose your own books what do you mean by compose compose a book well there is is even in letter press the composing stick and I write in my character blue mobely in this illuminated novel that I wrote that he I got turned on to the letter press shop when he was fourteen years old in junior high school and anyone who is in the letter press shop had to work on the school newspaper and so you also became a reporter and one day he had written his tax type written it and brought it in he was going to set it in the composing stick which is that metal rack that you put the individual pieces of title type but he left it at home and so he just started writing a composition spontaneously based on the news things actually Vietnam at the time a story and and he composed his first work of fiction in the composing stick so that's one way that the term comes from but for me when you take in Intro to freshman in class in college it's called composition and when you take Two d design is called composition and when you bring these things together its composition and so when I ride at its best when it's really visual in its inception I'm composing the tax I read that when you show your thesis for stations to an art dealer or a book dealer the man admired its artful density than advised you to come back when you were dead why why was it so difficult for him to wrap his brain around what you were doing I think he thought it was wonderful but in terms of he was an antiquarian dealer so you know he saw that this could maybe have historical significance or rates of first refusal no I just talked in the amelioration and went to the next place which you know I was I in the beginning I did I win around two stores and I've got my stuff into stores and I remember my book French fries a bunch of years later I went to books and company near the Whitney at the time and they bought ten copies of French fries and I went in a few weeks later to see if there were still copies left or how doing and I'm looking for it now it's a play some looking for it in the drama section I don't see well it sort of visual book too so I look for it in the art section designed section it's not there and then I founded the cookbooks and I was gonna say what about food and there was an an so I went up to the person at the counter and I said or the buyer can't remember who was but she's me my book in its there but it it's in cookbooks but it's not a cookbook and actually the guy had a British accent he says actually it's doing quite well we'd like to have another ten copies so you know I couldn't argue with that it's doing well in cookbook section keep it maybe cooks have more men when you were publishing blue mobile you also got stacks since tax of rejection letters from what I understand what has kept you persevering no no I I am I am somebody that also Oh has tended to keep pushing even in the face of deep humiliation I'm not saying that you were humiliated but I've been rejected more than I even want to remember are what what keeps you persevering I do have a strong motivation to keep were looking I'm I'm a workaholic on my artwork and in between all those rejections there are acknowledgments and Nice reviews and recognition I think the hardest thing is falling between the cracks because when you're later in your visual artists in your graphic designer and you do performance and you can't find yourself falling between the crap out of sight easy to categorize you I don't know I have driven from within and I think if I ever made something that I thought was really perfect I may just stop and I think because I'm always somewhat dissatisfied with what I've made it keeps me going how would you know that something was perfect well I wouldn't see the flaws right but it seems like it's sort of subjective what is right well yeah but you know of my own work you know so it's always a funny thing like when you come out with a new book you're you're out there peddling and you believe even you do you know but you're also like onto the next thing and finding in yourself what you could have done that after you reference French fries and French fries was I believe your first collaboration with Dennis Bernstein who've since collaborated with again on your current book French fries tells the story of a fast food restaurant following the murder of a customer and brings this scene to vivid life by using expressive type Hug Rafi and design critic Julie Lasky said this about it and it's a it's somewhat long quote but I do think it's worth repeating lehrer has pursued the anatomically silence distance passing time interwoven lines of dialogue overlap as words take on thoughts very form bringing sensory variance to the reader as directly as ink on paper can allow and wearing your subsequent books have sought to find the shape of interior thought patterns and the spoken word through typography and iconography and image do you feel that books should always have a visual artist component to them no not at all I think you know Craig Maude writes about with the I pad coming on the scene as compared to the kindle making this distinction between formless content text that's just written his text and can do just fine being poured into a kindle column and of course the crystal goblet as a metaphor for transparent text and we all read that way and it works very well but I think there are some of us who just can't help but see the writing that where writing or if in this case you know also or collaborating with with writer so there's no reason for all literature or poetry all documentary works that used text to be that way but I think we're living in a very visual culture and more more writers have at their disposal all these choices choices you know on a typewriter you can do a heck of a lot of things but now more and more writers are things talking about the shape of their text and that isn't necessarily just for the page could be for interactive screen based eating as well and so it's getting getting pretty interesting you've said that writers should not take for granted certain visual aspects of the Book Types Election Chan size placement do you think readers take them for granted well readers will go with what you present them Oh I think more that the form of a book for the Longest Time Post Gutenberg was taken for granted I mean it was just the very convenient vehicle for transporting text and so eventually the means of production that grows out of Gutenberg got faster and faster and more mechanical and churning out these books that didn't matter what they were about if there were about experimental jazz if there were about the life and times terms of Donald Trump they look the same and I think one of the Nice things about the threat to books right now is that it liberates the book to not only be this convenient vehicle because we have them in the palm of her hands these very convenient vehicle that really couldn't just as well replaced the paperback book so now people can think about the turning of the page and it's not some the reader it's up to the makers to think about the book as an art form like filmmakers think about cinema as an art form study film theory and think about all these attributes of the book just like if you're right waiting for a song or if you're writing for the stage it's very different but how many writers really think about these physical properties of the book the turning of the page I actually read something recently about how carmakers on mobile makers go as far as the costing the sound that the closing of a door makes to test what range it should be in relation to what people want to see they are digging the form you know this yes in two dozen in thirteen one of your best and popular books was published it's titled a life in books the rise and fall of blue mobely and features the title character writing one hundred need and one books before going to prison and fictitiously authoring this book and You bring each book and it's covered to life one hundred and.
"lehrer" Discussed on Design Matters with Debbie Millman
"Episode warn their talks about the intersections between images and letters and about the future of books I wouldn't want every book to be but I tried to walk between five and ten thousand steps a day sometimes I'm successful sometimes I'm not but it always seems like I'm running around latest project a book of Visual Poems written by Dennis J Bernstein that Warren composed for the page Warren Lara Welcome to design matters Thank you Debbie. It's great to be here we're in legendary design historian Philip megs wrote this about you rain developed a rich imaginary world creating scenarios for his puppet collection and secret dolls that his parents knew nothing thing about is it true that when you were a kid you'd set up puppets on chairs is your own personal orchestra and you'd conduct them with a piece of uncooked spaghetti I heard all kinds of symphonies that were beyond my imagination but I could gesture unloved the music in my head and in the spheres around me and I also I recently was visiting my parents and they showed me these letters and postcards that I sent them when I was very very young that had words spiralling from the outside the middle and meandering down the page and made all kinds of shapes said the liaison between text and image with something that you were born with absolutely and certainly do nothing about the word typography yeah it was it was something that came natural to me I understand that you were considered a visual arts prodigy as a priest ruler who who declared you being my parents and so they sent me to art lessons with this is Eric in the basement of the Lutheran Church on Bill Boulevard in Bayside where I went for about six or seven years Mrs Emmerick though would really touch up my paintings and add highlights to the ocean waves and extra flair to the land escapes and still lifes and she had a much more graceful touch and I think although I was considered very talented I think I was sort of clumsy about it new awkward in what what strokes you know it didn't it wasn't like went on in college I took a calligraphy class I would look at the young woman next to me and it was coming out so graceful and I was working more hard to get a good letter although the compositions of were interesting it's interesting that calligraphy is is something that is so simple yet choirs so much skin I it's quite extraordinary how much skillet actually requires your dad was an electrical engineering your mom was an elementary school all teacher so where did the artistic inclinations come from I think I really think it came a lot from my father's side particularly music and in the love for literature but my mother was a schoolteacher and both my parents made sure that I went to museums we also went to the theater once a month really yeah not Broadway but equity theater uptown down and so I was introduced to that I don't think that they meant for my brother and I to take the arts quite as seriously as we ended up Oy now I understand that you didn't really enjoy the art classes that you're taking when you were a little boy and I'm wondering if it's because as of the heavy handed way in which our teacher edited your work which is really something I've never heard before yes and was re I mean I was painting things that I wasn't seeing painting bullfights we were doing a lot of copying of paintings that had been made a long time ago and so that was not all that inspiring and then through junior high school and high school I was an art major almost by fault so when I entered college I sort of rebelled against art believe it or not to major in something else which was masking indications at the very beginning but you ultimately changed it to painting and print pretty quickly what did you think you wanted to be professionally at that point in your life you know I t. v. something you know I graduated when I graduated from High School in mid year in December I got a job at CBS broadcast center as a mail boy at delivering mail to Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather and and Robert Kishan captain kangaroo. And I don't know what I was thinking but there I was for about eight months doing that and reading a lot of books there's a lot of downtime when you're a male boy you have a really interesting history of success in the face of quite a lot of rejection and I understand that when you were working in art in college you showed the work that you are making that was incorporating type and the visual to one of your painting teachers and I read that he wagged his finger in your face and told you that you were a really good student but you were barking up the wrong tree by making work like you're making why hey will he said that words and images live in two different parts of the brain they occupy different kinds of languages and admonished me not ever combined think you didn't feel you didn't take that seriously I think I did I I left office feeling like I've been given a mission lights I you take it seriously to the other a for better or for worse I've been combining words and images ever since we're making images out of words but there's such an incredible history of artists combining text and image going back hundreds and maybe thousands of years where was he coming up with that so this was probably nineteen seventy six so we're talking in a fine art program where painting painting sculpture with sculpture and there was absolutely no graphic design whatsoever and I I think that it's true particularly when phonetic alphabet started to proliferate around the world that the language systems which started out as I kinda graphic pictorial systems parted with these phonetic systems and that words images did separate cave paintings are claimed as the origin of visual art and are claimed as the origin of writing as well and and it's really with that historical change of our use of language that these things really did separate and so that's a big thing that education does even today which is to put things in their compartments we're gonNA separate you're old enough now to L. That writing is writing and visual art is visual art no I've since and you and I know this very well that there's this rich rich history of these things coming to get other but I I in retrospect understand where he was coming from one of the things that I wanna talk to you about a little bit more in detail later in the show is your teaching but you are part of a book that one of my favorite guests of all time Steve Heller just published and it's a book about teaching in design history and you have quite an interesting chapter in the book and you actually outline the vast history of visual storytelling from our prehistoric days and be reference ancient pattern poetry in your syllabus what is ancient pattern poetry well it dates back to Minoan fastest disc which stories even are not even sure what this piece is but they think that it is poetry and it's not pros and it is a spiral of iconic graphic letter forms and it creates a pattern and yet it's known to have meaning and then if you move to medieval and even early Christian pattern poems where you have words that can be read vertically they can be read horizontally they can be read diagonally and it's this very you know we think in the twenty first century that we invented interactivities pattern poems they're operating on all these different levels like this poem by a German Benedictine monk from the fourth century called four angels which in and the black letters there is the text about the earthly domain and then there's during of an angel in each quadrant of this four quadrant poem and they're in red lettering superimposed on the angel is text about the Supernet troll the heavenly domain and there were words going in these different direction so as a heck of a lot going on and what year was this this is fourth century ah eighty I wonder if this particular body of work influenced William Blake whether he knew it or not yeah I was really happy to see in your syllabus is that you included Lawrence turns life and opinions of Tristram Shandy which was originally published in seventeen fifty nine it's an extraordinary example full of how text and image are intertwined hundreds and hundreds of years before I think anybody realized what the potential was and right how the book is written as an autobiography of a fictional narrator and is famous for its literary parody meandering Digression Double Entendre Cz options of sex purposeful misspellings Meta and graphic devices using super long dashes asterisks in place of expletives severe the views of arrows florins and other Ding bats embedded throughout the text digitally lines diagramming shape of his story missing chapters is that reappear in subsequent volumes text printed on top of a solid black rectangle evoking the voice of a character after his death and blank pages for readers to write their own responses I mean can you talk a bit about how revolutionary that book was I am obsessed with this book by the way it's really nine books but I am obsessed with with this in its entirety but I I really contend that that book is the first postmodern book even though is in the seventeen in seventeen fifty whatever now I like to continue to show my students examples of things that really predate the modern era that have amazing typographical and met her and structural devices in them you know be it Lewis Carroll's services tail and the song book from the eighteen hundreds that was a farce I thought I thought it was absurd play and so he did this farcical take on it and little like chap book taking out most of the text and so you have these floating pieces of punctuation and occasional word and it and it looked so John Cage look so contemporary and he was doing this to criticize but yeah there was satire and graphical play and yet in the nineteen seventies you had a teacher that said that you can't do that I'm glad that it mobilized to actually do it more where do you find these books and these examples I came upon Tristram Shandy quite by accident in an English class in college there's some great histories out there like Joanna drucker has six or seven really important texts that divisible word I think is one of them and the alphabetic labyrinth where she really analyze 'cause it's one thing when you look at Aaron Nitty or Tristan Zara or apollinaire or Stefan maller main you look at the stuff and you say oh that is that is so great looking but when you lead her analysis which she's helping you understand what the text was about translating and what the visual metaphor is worse than that helps me have insights and understanding of that material because we could just so easily go sort of Gaga over the stuff visually well I I do and I and I get it I mean the one thing that I do that I'm always cognizant of what I'm looking at visual poetry or concrete poetry or visuals stories is the notion that both independent disciplines have to be a certain quality in order for this to really work you have to be as good a writer as you are artist or designer you have to be as good a designer artist as your writer which means that essentially have to be a polymath which isn't that easy now you went on to pursue an MFA in graphic design at Yale and I understand that you were surprised by what you referred to as the underlying in corporate sensibility of the program talk about that a little bit well I really entered Grad school with and allusion as to what Rafic design was I really was this fine art major and I had a different teacher who introduced me to Kerr twitter's and Dita road and a normal lives.
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"It's the Brian Lehrer show on WNYC. Good morning, again, everyone many poor people today than a month ago. No the name and face of Arizona, Senator Jeff flake for better or for worse or for tortured ambivalence. Of course, this came as a result of when California professor Christine Blasi Ford delivered her allegations of sexual assault against the now supreme court Justice spread Cavanaugh flake was the sole Republican defector on the judiciary committee to call for the FBI to investigate. But the next week voted to confirm flake confirmed later that in the end he was always planning to likely vote for bread cavenaugh, but the nation needed a bipartisan pause in his opinion, regardless the call still made him a household name. And a short lived hero for Democrats. My next guest this American life producers Zoe chase had been accompanying the Senator in the days before and really the weeks before and sometime after that historic decision originally, not thinking. She was doing a cavenaugh story, and she chronicle those moments for powerful and thoughtful episode of this American life that some of you have heard called the unhappy deciders. Hi, Zoe, welcome to WNYC today. Thanks so much for having me, Brian. It's exciting. So you thought you were following Jeff flake for a different story before this nomination fight exploded. Well, I I don't know ABC. I would put it exactly that way. It's more than I thought I was done with Jeff flake before the nomination fight exploded because they had done this this this long story for this American life about Jeff flake trying to get a deal done, you know, the basically legal status for undocumented immigrants, and it's really hard to do a deal like that around immigration reform when you're a Republican running for office. He is not a Republican running for office. He's just a Republican who's retired from the Senate. So he thought he could do a bipartisan deal turns out he could not this is not a moment for bipartisanship, then this cavenaugh thing. So then do that story that's three areas. Then this cavenaugh thing heats up, and I see the Jeff flake is in the middle of it. And he's looking as as you pointed out as tortured Lee ambivalent as he always is. And I called them and said, hey, can I hang out with you figure this out? And that's why the title for the piece. The happy the I'm sorry. The unhappy deciders, right? Yeah. Exactly. He was not happy about having to to make this decision. And when I called him, and we talked before I went down there just to see if if there was a piece to do if he was truly undecided. He truly was I believe he really was in that he had a limited amount of time to make up his mind, and he did that kind of in front of the whole country. Here's just twelve seconds from your episode of flake agonizing over the cavenaugh decision. Debate staff.
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"Lehrer show on wnyc good morning again everyone and now we launched the brian lehrer show series called the eighth a brief history of the american culture wars decade by decade how did we become polarized nation that we are today in this series in conjunction with the house poll we will attempt to answer that question as seen through years that end with the number eight so come along for a series of conversations in which historians participants and definitely you on the phones recall how american saw ourselves each other and this country's place in the world in nineteen forty eight nineteen fifty eight sixty eight seventy eight eighty eight ninety eight and two thousand eight and of course leading up to today twenty eighteen we'll have historical audio to a place on the justice second all this to prepare us for going back out again for two thousand eighteen brian lehrer show harris poll that will ask what can really make america great and greatly unified in the decade to come we're calling it the eights because this year there are round number anniversaries obviously of some really benchmark events in modern history so much happened in nineteen sixty eight that all the media are already talking about and we'll get to some of that next week when we get to sixty eight in this series but it made us think a lot happened in the other years since world war two that ended in eight nine hundred ninety eight saw the impeachment of bill clinton right with obvious culture war ramifications for today and some echoes two thousand eight so the election of obama and the.
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"Brian lehrer on wnyc so are democrats counting their proverbial chickens before they hatch in counting on a blue wave to wrest control of the house and maybe even the senate in november that's what jonathan alter suggest in his most recent daily beast column he warns that republican money and a search for progressively pure candidates and democratic primaries could backfire and he uses the cynthia nixon primary challenge of the more centrist andrew cuomo as a prime example even though it's not a congressional race and he joins me now jonathan who's written two books about president obama among other things welcome back to wnyc thanks very much brian democrats with their head screwed on right or reviving an old ethic party and country over personal preference tell me why you think cynthia nixon's candidacy is quote screwing well first of all i think she has the perfect way to ron and i i think she is arguably doing some some good things in pushing andrew cuomo to the left so that's that's been interesting and people have a perfect right to vote for her my concern is what they do with their support for her and what that support in terms of time and money means because you could argue that every dollar that goes to a a primary fight like that especially one with a lot of publicity is one less dollar that would go to elect a.