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Michigan Policast
"lee chatfield" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"Lee chatfield out. Candace miller said no ronna mcdaniel. I don't i don't know she said no by shirke said no. But he also says the dc riots were hoax and the phrase. Chinese flu isn't racist so he's always lying anyway. I don't know what's going on with john james. He launched that pack so he could fundraise and stay relevant. Whatever he hasn't really said anything. I right now. The all-star lineup for the republicans. Are austin chang a grand rapids. Republican who may or may not make eligibility requirements in twenty twenty two because he only registered to vote and twenty twenty and you have to be registered for longer than that and we have garett soldano. Who runs on michigan. He's tight with mike shuki so he sounds qualified. Tutor dixon from grand rapids. She has a radio show obviously qualified. And there's detroit police chief james craig. Who is retiring from that position. I think as of tuesday while. I don't know if that's right. Yeah his qualifications. Let's move onto the next political note. I guess okay. It's a cloud show summit the one person who's trying to make it a little easier for these republicans. Apparently is the governor. She continues her way through the airplane controversy. Although i think what she's done now should take care not that the republicans are gonna drop the issue. But what she's done now actually make sense. She is going to have her campaign committee..
Michigan Policast
"lee chatfield" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"It's unbelievable that we got this far and they keep saying the mail in voting is open to fraud and anything is open to fraud. If people try hard enough that they can find ways to fry but is incredibly difficult to organize. mass voter. fraud is gonna impact the outcome of an election. They have been doing nothing but vote by mail in five states west now several election cycles and there are absolutely no reports of widespread voter fraud in colorado or washington or utah. Our away california's now implementing an all male in process. And it works. It's simply works. And when it's fully implemented it also saves money because you don't have to have as many polling places you have a longer time for voters to cast an informed vote because they've got their ballots sitting on their dining room table and if they've got a question about candidate or a question about a ballot proposal. That's on that ballot. They can get online or they can talk to their friends and get more information about whatever it is there. They need more information about so that they're they're not making snap decisions. Based on some prejudice when they walk into the voting booth it is all about power and maintaining power and quite honestly destroying the of representative democracy. They don't want a representative democracy. They want an oligarchy. Or at least a situation where it's mostly white people you know. The country started when only white male landowners were allowed to vote. If you are a woman or you were a person of color and certainly if you're a slave you had no vote we've evolved from that. They say well let's go back with the founders intended the founders intended for this to be an autocracy where the the rich people basically called all the shots. You didn't have direct election. The united states senate. He didn't have women voting. You didn't have. We had slavery in half the country. So it's we've come a long way from there but now they're trying to kind of go backwards and move back towards that system and i just find that horrible. Yeah and. I don't want to carry this on too much longer or get off on a tangent but i feel like i might be the only one in the country who just doesn't care what the founders intended i appreciate the constitution but they did make it possible change because they knew that the people may want to change direction in this country. Why do i care what the founders intended now. The founders never envisioned a world like this and we'll talk around powdered wigs again. I saw a discussion on link the other day. Jeb livengood this great this great article out a week or two ago about term limits and lee chatfield and somebody mentioned that those of us who support term limits envisioned these gentlemen going to serve their state or their community whatever and then coming home after a short period of time and return to their farm or they're placed business and work under the laws that they passed. I refer you to george washington and thomas jefferson and all this kind of stuff and i thought it's a romanticized view of something that doesn't apply right now. That's just a that's kind of where that's coming from. I just set aside with the founders intended set aside what they did and you know take a look at the world that you live in right now and that's far more relevant to what we're dealing with. You know you get the two sides you've got the originalists who say every we gotta go exactly with original intent which i find ridiculous and we've got those like you and me that the constitution was designed to be a living breathing. Document that adjusts itself as circumstances. Change i really. Don't think the thomas jefferson the iphone. I don't think envision the internet or with the founders think of our podcast. Hello yeah so..
Michigan Policast
"lee chatfield" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"And then is the story of his eleven days as the ceo of southwest michigan. I so it was already tainted. I think by the taste from the term limits and him getting job. He technically was unqualified for based on economic development background. A lot of people said look he's just not qualified to do the job and then finally we chat fields. Background is all about as a legislator is all about discrimination. He was recruited or approached by david. Age to run against frank foster. I don't know if you remember this. Lee chatfield was teaching at a christian school. When frank foster the representative for his district was trying to advance a nondiscrimination bill. David jemma creepy biggest that he is approached chatfield to get him to run so chatfield came out and told frank foster. This poor representative either oppose that equality bill or well as non-discrimination or face a primary while frank foster supported the bill so he was not going to do that and chat field made that non-discrimination bill the centerpiece of his campaign and in foster lost. His primary chatfield won the election. We all know his record while he was there and as speaker he would not allow that bill to come up so this is in some ways a really wonderful story about a community saying we did not appreciate what you did. We couldn't do anything about it while you were in the house. But we don't need to pay some organization to employer here so that's the story of lee chatfield one of the key players in the drive to make. Lgbtq people full citizens of michigan is erin not in addition to being a member of the kalamazoo city council. She's the executive director of equality michigan. And she joins us on the podcast not from equality michigan. What do you make of the late night. Conversion of lee chatfield all of the sudden after all these years. Supportive of the cause of lgbtq equality would like to think that mr chatfield recognize that. If you are going to be a leader Post legislative cirque Service that you're going to have to do right by the lgbtq community and if you're going to be employed up particularly for an organization that's primary purposes Attracting and retaining talent into southwest michigan. You're gonna have to again recognize that diversity equity inclusion is a value proposition. That is deeply honored. And there's just such a strong commitment those those values here not only in kalamazoo across south west michigan. You have the bill probably going to the legislature in the near future as we are talking. The board of canvassers is actually meeting on the petitions. From fair and equal michigan. Do get this before. The legislature is the prospects given the very strong polling in support of this across party lines. I think that we have a number of pass forward with the legislature Earlier this week representative husky introduced legislation house. Bill forty two ninety. Seven that would amend the elliot larsen civil rights act to include sexual orientation gender identity expression. It's my understanding that senator monse is circulating a similar bill in the senate right now. He's working to get cosponsors for his bill. And then you have the fair and equal petition. Where five hundred thousand plus signatures were gathered on behalf of you know. Constituents residents all across the state of michigan in once that certification happens. We anticipate that the legislature will have forty days to consider the people's bill in either move that forward or that bill will go before voters and twenty twenty. Two in looking at the polling richards zuma who did the polling. We have a fair and equal michigan. Said he's never seen an issue. Move this fast..
Michigan Policast
"lee chatfield" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"New New momentum this year because speaker jason wentworth is making this one of his top priorities in the legislature. It's the only piece of legislation. He's introduced so far this session. It's a joint resolution which means Would require two-thirds majority support in both chambers of the legislature and then require a vote of the people because it would amend the constitution and it would do so by not ending lame duck but requiring any votes in that two month period after the november election and before the end of the year even year would require to majorities or for any legislation to pass during that time so there is a critical. Need like a you know. A global pandemic for instance That everybody can agree on the need to do convenient to do something. The legislature still could But it would require. Bipartisan support since either party is likely to have a super majority in both chambers. Anytime soon. look in the. You've got a lot of people there who actually are already lame ducks. They're in the final two years of service and they can't come back because they're termed out is the senate more likely to look favourably on this than it has in the past. That's an open question I haven't gotten any answers yet. Out of senate leadership on this front on distractions in the senate show in the last week or two Speaker went of course it has a you know as a conduit to the senate majority leader as well so he'll certainly be able to advocate for this But you know the senate has blocked. What advocates call good government reforms number of times in recent years the records foia expansion to include the legislature and governor's office for instance has passed the house each of the last two sessions but never been taken up in the senate So it's unclear whether there's gonna be an appetite and again because two-thirds supermajority and not only would you need senate majority leader. Mike turkey on board. But you'd need bipartisan support. For the proposal for it to pass so certainly faced a long road ahead in a number of obstacles. We should get print. Creditors is due as well and that is for representative gary hall. Who has been advocating this for a long time. Republican state representative. I remember talking to him about it during the voters not politician's campaign and he was adamant about the thin and he's just continued the fight. Yeah definitely he Hal is an interesting story. Was the one a special election to actually replace disgraced and resigned representative pot coarser back in two thousand sixteen and that same year Than so you know nine months on the job or something like that. He got from In delaying daca headfirst and you know as a lawmaker not only was he Super freshmen by us slammed with hundreds of bill said he was expected to analyze understand and then vote on He told me what was the tipping point for him in two thousand sixteen. Was this huge energy. Overhaul bill that ended up passing with bipartisan. Or it wasn't mr example hyper partisan legislature legislation. We've seen in lame duck but it was a massive proposal that was over two hundred pages long the bills a governor snyder. A brokered deal overnight. A last minute deal literally the last day of lame duck Met with house. Republicans that morning and an s them to To approve this. Bill Mates that was absurd Know folks were Barely conscious at that each let alone Able to understand the implications of a major bill like that so He has been banging the drum for a number of years and as not gone anywhere But again that's why speaker wentworth. Champion in this caused now is a pretty big deal and one of the last lame duck actions under rick. Snyder of course was the end bridge deal which is still controversial and the governor has been any attorney general. Have been trying to undo it ever since. Yeah that's right. I mean that was another example owner of the legislature trying to hamstring the legislature. The governor in that case trying to hamstring incoming democratic leadership in state government. There is end bridge as i mentioned. there was another bill that that governor stegar actually vetoed That would have allowed the legislature to intervene in any lawsuit involving the state They can petition courts now to enter the this would have as an attempt to automatically give them standing so for instance They could Intervene of a nestle was taken legal. Action against ad bridge or something like that so The former governor snyder De vito that as sort of separation of powers He did sort of stand up for some of the hours of the executive branch. china's way out of office winless question you mentioned earlier. The travail that's going on right now in the state senate with mike turkey seemingly inserting foot into mouth in a regular basis is it impacting him yet in terms of his ability to be the leader of the senate well. I'm not privy to. What quadrant meetings are like. Those are private meetings between the governor legislative leaders. But i can't imagine they're extremely friendly rate now Within within his own caucus senate republicans. It seems like folks are standing by him There doesn't seem to be any concerted effort to change leadership in the senate republican caucus which would be a rare step but he and it certainly sucking up a lot of oxygen in lansing Both to Today which is wednesday and last week. Senate minority leader. Jim anna nick. You know taking time in the senate to speak out against Shirt these comments to say You know there was. There was acrimony center. Amnon except between republicans and democrats in the past under former senate majority leader arslan mikov but annex said at least he was never erice to be a member of the senate at that point. He said he was last week. So when sort of some shirk comments came out so certainly You know some relationships from the rocks right now. Atlantic because of these comments jonathan hosting bridge magazine. You can read his prose on bridge m. i dot com and we think much for joining us from the politics. Talk with you again soon. Yeah thanks for okay. It's political notes. I up a new job inspires a one hundred eighty degree reversal from former state house speaker. Lee chatfield now. As i'm sure you've heard lee chatfield has taken a position as ceo of southwest michigan. I this is an organization in kalamazoo that you know is meant to spur business development and entrepreneurship in that kind of thing so he came out and said that southwest michigan. I supports the expansion into the elliot. Larsen civil rights act to include. Lgbtq and as you know while when we chat field was in the legislature. When he was elected in two thousand fourteen he was against marriage equality and ever. Since that time he had opposed the expansion of elliot larsen. He come up and while he was speaker he wouldn't bring it up. Yeah that's our guy. Now he did try to explain this in the media.
Michigan Policast
"lee chatfield" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"The secretary is supervised by this state's office but done by a lot of local election officials. Republicans and democrats. They had counted more than eighteen. Thousand ballots randomly selected from thirteen hundred jurisdictions. And what they found was the election was clean. The machine reports were almost exactly on spot. You know there's always gonna be some machiners but it was nothing significant and the audit confirmed what we knew all along. It was a fair clean election where the numbers were accurately reported yet. You still like you said earlier. There's a lot of people who believe the whole thing was stolen by the companies or by the politicians or by somebody no matter how many times the votes are counted. They just say well look at his during the recounting and on and on and on and on but i will have links to both of those stories on the website. It's kind of incredible. Another potential republican candidate for governor appears to be locked in as non-candidate former house speaker. Lee chatfield has taken a new job as chief executive director of southwest kalamazoo based economic development organization although not categorically ruling himself out. Chatfield is apparently joining a list of people not running that includes senate majority leader mike shuki former congresswoman. Candice miller and former lieutenant governor. Brian tally looking more and more like a third chance for two times. Senate loser john james. The only announced candidate wingnut ryan kelly co founder of the militant right wing american patriot council and they planning commissioner allendale and the sky is an nuts i think the republicans could end up with another primary like they had a ten years ago when you had four conservative kennedy released by the standards then they were very conservative candidates running and you had a fifth candidate who came out of nowhere a very rich businessman by the name of rick snyder. Snider got twenty five percent of the vote in the republican primary but that was enough to win and so he wanted under of course to become the nominee and he ran against verge venero who was one of the worst candidates for governor in recent history within the democratic party. Anyone very easily snyder was able to portray himself as a moderate republican in the mold of bill milliken and won the election fairly easily. And i think you could see the republicans having that happen again. Some business person or some very wealthy entrepreneur will come out of nowhere and announces a candidate and try to position themselves as moderates could be peter mayer logical candidate. He's proven to be successful electorally although he's got a problem right now with his own re-election given his vote on impeachment i wonder if somebody like him could win the primary probably what they need is somebody who's got absolutely no public record so there's nothing to attack probably in that it. You know where. John james would be someone who would be attractive to them. Yeah he really has no public record other than running and losing a couple of times. He's said very little on issues and following up on my favorite political story of the season the growth of the good pillow company is a competitor to my pillow and the founder of that company. Mike lindell who is the ultimate trump lover. As you may recall christine. This good pillow company is the project of twenty year old..
WNYC 93.9 FM
"lee chatfield" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"It cannot grant plaintiffs requested relief. That decision by Judge Braun was affirmed on appeal by Judge Stephanos Beavis, a Trump appointee who agreed and wrote and I quote Campaigns. Claims have no merit. The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000 vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud. Or that any of the votes were cast by illegal voters. Plus, tossing out millions of mail in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate. Upsetting all down ballot races and quote Similarly As Judge Linda Parker of the Eastern District of Michigan framed it. She said, stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach. If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of more than 5.5 million. Michigan citizens. Who with dignity and hope and a promise of a vote participated in the 2020 general election. Donald Trump told his supporters. They are stealing the election. They took away your vote. It's rigged. That was not true. According to judge after judge the truth was exactly the opposite. Trump was not suing to ensure election integrity. He was pursuing lawsuits that would, in effect strip away American votes so that he could win. In other words, Donald Trump was asking the judiciary to take away votes from Americans. So that he could steal the election for himself. Then, after losing in all the courts, Trump turned to another tactic, pressuring and threatening election officials. You saw what happened in Michigan after Trump attacked the state. And it's election officials. His supporters surrounded the secretary of state's home. As you saw in the earlier slide, chanting, calling her a felon. November 17th the board of Canvassers. For Wayne County, Michigan, home to Detroit unanimously certified the election results for Biden. That same night. After their vote to certify the results. Trump called the to repent Republican members of that board Pressuring them to change their minds. Call worked. The next day, both Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the Republican board members attempted to rescind their vote to certify Michigan's election results. They simply couldn't President Trump didn't stop there. He then contacted majority leader of the Michigan Senate, Mike Shirky and the speaker of the Michigan House, Lee Chatfield, to lobby them to overturn Michigan's results. Trump invited Mr Chatfield and Mr Sharkey to Washington to meet with him in the White House. The president lobby them further. Let's be clear. Donald Trump was calling officials hosting them at the White House, urging them to defy the voters in their state. And instead award votes to Trump. Officials held strong And so trump moved on to a different state. My home state of Pennsylvania. Am certain my senators, Casey and Senator to me, remember what happened there? In early December. As he did in Michigan, he began calling election officials, including my former colleagues in the Pennsylvania Legislature. Republicans Majority Leader Kim Ward and Speaker of the House Brian Cutler. Majority leader, Ward said the president called her to quote Declare there was a fraud in the voting and quote Then on November 25th President Trump phoned into a Republican sex state Senate policy hearing trying to convince the Republican legislators Senators and House members. There had been a fraud in the vote. He even had his lawyer hold a phone up to the microphone in that hearing room. So the committee could hear him. Here is what he said. We can't let that happen. We can't let it happen for our country. And this election has to be turned around because we won Pennsylvania by a lot. And we want all of these swing states by a lot..
KQED Radio
"lee chatfield" Discussed on KQED Radio
"No, I believe Congresswoman Madeline Dean, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, will be speaking next for the impeachment managers. She is also a member of the House Judiciary Committee. Esteemed members of the Senate. It is my solemn honor to be before you today. AM Madeline Dean congresswoman from the fourth Congressional District of Pennsylvania. I'm a lawyer. I'm a former professor of writing. I'm a sister. I'm a wife. I'm a mother. I'm a grandmother to three with fourth on her way. I'm a person of faith. And I'm an American. Along with Manager Lou. I will present the actions of a desperate president. And we will present evidence today of a class of public servants who standing up to enormous pressure from the president of the United States. Did the right thing and upheld their oath. My colleagues just presented evidence of a President Trump's months long efforts to incite his base. Leading them to believe the election was stolen. That they needed to fight like hell to stop the steel on January, the sixth These weren't President Trump's on Lee efforts to overturn the results. Manager Lou and I will present evidence of President Trump's relentless escalating campaigns to fabricate an election victory. By ignoring adverse court rulings, pressuring and threatening election officials attacking senators and members of Congress pressuring the Justice Department. Finally bullying his own vice president. President Trump and his allies filed 62 separate lawsuits in federal courts. Across more than half a dozen states and the District of Columbia. Including Pennsylvania, My home state. As well as Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada and Wisconsin. Of the 62 post election legal challenges he lost 61. Only one was successful and that case involved ballot curing in Pennsylvania. And had no impact on President Biden's 80,555 vote victory in our Commonwealth. To be clear, not a single court. Not a single judge agreed that the election results were invalid or should be invalidated. Instead. Court after court Reviewing these challenges, said these cases were quote not credible. Without merit based on nothing but speculation. Flat out wrong. The judiciary resoundingly rejected Trump's fraud allegations and upheld the election results. It was more than that. The court said these cases were different. They were dangerous to our democracy. For example, in an opinion by United States District Court Judge Matthew Brand from Pennsylvania. He said, and I quote This court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit. And speculative accusations. In the United States of America. This cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter. Let alone all the voters of its six most populated state. Our people and laws and institutions demand more. Because this court has no authority to take away the right to vote of even a single person, let alone millions of citizens. It cannot grant plaintiffs requested relief. That decision by Judge Braun was affirmed on appeal by Judge Stephanos Leave US a Trump appointee who agreed and wrote and I quote. Campaigns. Claims have no merit. The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000 vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud. Or that any of the votes were cast by illegal voters. Plus, tossing out millions of mail in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate. Upsetting all down ballot races and quote Similarly As Judge Linda Parker of the Eastern District of Michigan framed it. She said, stunning in its scope and breathtaking in its reach. If granted, the relief would disenfranchise the votes of more than 5.5 million. Michigan citizens. Who with dignity and hope and a promise of a vote participated in the 2020 general election. Donald Trump told his supporters. They are stealing the election. They took away your vote. It's rigged. That was not true. According to judge after judge the truth was exactly the opposite. Trump was not suing to ensure election integrity. He was pursuing lawsuits that would, in effect strip away American votes so that he could win. In other words, Donald Trump was asking the judiciary to take away votes from Americans. So that he could steal the election for himself. Then, after losing in all the courts, Trump turned to another tactic, pressuring and threatening election officials. You saw what happened in Michigan after Trump attacked the state. And it's election officials. His supporters surrounded the secretary of state's home. As you saw in the earlier slide, chanting, calling her a felon. November 17th the board of Canvassers. For Wayne County, Michigan, home to Detroit unanimously certified the election results for Biden. That same night. After their vote to certify the results. Trump called the to repent Republican members of that board Pressuring them to change their minds. The call worked. The next day, both Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the Republican board members attempted to rescind their vote to certify Michigan's election results. They simply couldn't President Trump didn't stop there. He then contacted Majority leader of the Michigan Senate, Mike Sharkey and the speaker of the Michigan House, Lee Chatfield, to lobby them to overturn Michigan's results. Trump invited Mr Chatfield and Mr Sharkey to Washington to meet with him in the White House, where the president lobby them further. Let's be clear. Donald Trump was calling officials hosting them at the White House, urging them to defy the voters in their state and instead award votes to Trump. Officials held strong And so trump moved on to a different state. My home state of Pennsylvania. I am certain my senators, Casey and Senator to me, Remember what happened there?.
Michigan Policast
"lee chatfield" Discussed on Michigan Policast
"That you would want to be associated with also walk in type. Wrote is the brand new congressman from west michigan. Peter meyer after voting in favor of impeachment. Which will certainly ensure him the wrath of donald trump down the road and already insured of a primary for twenty twenty two. He decided to vote against stripping a representative green from her committee. Assignments saying that. This is something that the houses of body should not be taking away. Committee memberships from anybody should be left up to the party caucus. It's interesting in michigan. The assignments to the committees are made by the speaker of the house. The speaker takes advice from the minority leader but the speaker has sole authority over who to put on committees and the previous speaker. Lee chatfield took great advantage of that by stripping committee assignments from both a republican and a democrat. There's some squawks raised over the reasons that he did it. But that's long. Been the practice in michigan in washington. They apparently don't think that the speaker of the house should decide to her. Have any input into who. The minority members are committees. And that was the argument that was used by meyer but he's really walking a tightrope over there. I can understand the philosophical Belief that this is how we've always done things in. We should not change the long standing way of doing things over what somebody said and what he said in his statement was this was not a vote on whether or not we approve her speech but whether the house should take the unprecedented move of stripping members of committee assignments and i want to focus on the word unprecedented here because look a violent attack on our capitol building killing capitol police officers replacing. Us flags with trump flags. Shotting hang mike pence who was the vice president. That's unprecedented the hostile transition of power. When we have ongoing military conflict a pandemic that's killed hundreds of thousands of americans and one if not the biggest security breaches of public and private sectors in history those are unprecedented and that's just the context but among the people who created their context was marjorie taylor green and so you have to have an unprecedented response and look while the committee. She was on education labor and budget. At those are the two committees. She was assigned to our just what you would think right. The budget is spending revenue debt limits. Education and labor is very expensive and without getting into the details. One of the subcommittees of that committee is civil rights and this is a woman who called our two thousand eighteen election's an islamic invasion said that muslims had no place in our government. She called are twenty twenty presidential election a crime against the american people. She still believes. These things mishaan maddock the new co chair. The gop is part of this group of people. And i don't see how anyone in michigan it's not just about peter meyer. No one in michigan can be a member of the republican party and say with any credibility that they don't believe in conspiracy theories that they are antisemitic that they aren't anti-black that they aren't anti-muslim that they don't believe in violence as a solution to domestic disagreements policy. They can't see those things and still be a member of the republican party because their leadership believes those things sixty six percent of the party activists the local leaders. Everybody else who votes within the party elected that leadership. They cast the vote for for racism and violence within the party. And you can't be a member of that party while also voting for it you can't condemn what that party stands for. While also voting for it you can't condemn violence and racism while also contributing money and paying dues to an organization that promotes it and the partisans who are constantly fighting the election. Battles are jumping on this quickly on. The democratic side groups affiliated with the democratic party or supporting the democratic party are working to identify republicans as the party of of our marjorie taylor green and of cunanan a whole lot of examples of that to to play this week. Because it's it's such an easy target and they're kind of it's sorta like working the refs early in a basketball game. He just wanna get him softened up for later while they're working the voters right now getting them preconditioned to think that the republican party is just totally out of their. This comes from the republican accountability project and other trump holes loyalists are fighting for a republican party. That promotes lies. The election was stolen. there was fraud. President trump won this election. Violence all widely dispersed semitic conspiracy theories and republican marjorie taylor green speculated at the fire which killed eighty five. People was far too by a jewish face. Laser now they want to exile republicans like liz cheney in adam kensington for standing up to a president that caused an insurrection on the united states capitol the soul of the republican party. He must stand up to those who act with integrity and against the ones that lie. That's just one of the commercials. It's part of the republican civil war. Another comes from the democratic congressional campaign committee which is branding republicans as the cunanan party human. A conspiracy theory four nine took over the republican party said followers to congress and with donald trump incited a mob that attacked the capital and motor cop. Then trump and republican in congress decided who the violent cuma mob comes from. Mike garcia should have stood with us but he was a coward voted to protect trump congressman. Mike garcia q. Not you dcc's responsible for the content of this advertising. And then there's this one from the folks at the midas touch. today is the day american patriots. Start taking down names. Fan kickin ass watching folks just roll over. If you don't fight trial by combat fight like hell you're not gonna have a country anymore. You'll never take back.
WAAM Talk 1600
"lee chatfield" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600
"73482 to 1600. Somebody e mailed me earlier and was taking me to task for the music. I play on alternative but music Friday. Which is tomorrow. Tomorrow's alternative buttons. You credit they're listening, but I they were saying that I should stop playing music by what was it I'm paraphrasing, but drug fiends and perverts. I should play more blues music. I don't know. Anyway, I thought man Uh, if if we did have music by drug fiends and perverts 80% of the cool music wouldn't even exist. If it wasn't for drug fiends and perverts. Life would be really boring. As far as writing goes, I mean, Oscar Wilde just referenced earlier. Yeah. Uh, You like bottle there? I mean, look, you've got to put in perspective doesn't mean you're gonna be that. But my God, you crazy. Get rid of the music by drug fiends and privilege. There won't be any music left. None. Sharon, welcome down the edge. Hey, buddy, Okay, hope, my friend. Hope you have to give the masses hope. OK, but these days, it's hopeless. Just, uh you know, I'm gonna push back like like we had this conversation earlier. Watch. It's not hopeless. Quiet. Watch the sin, man. Come in off the ledge. I know next week itself the crime. Listen, all I'm gonna say right now, if I can't do anything more to help Trump couldn't vote in Georgia. I worked the polls on Election day, but we have an election coming up in our state. And we have a little bit more controlling influence in our state. And so I'm telling people is okay. We'll wait and see what happens with who takes the White House. But I do believe that we did it before with the tea party. We if we can get this collective frustration, anger, suspicion, whatever it is and harness it and focus that I believe the masses can do something favor on. I don't think we need to stop by and left state. Here's your candidates. We have not. We have not felt the pain necessary to do that. That's what It took place when the tea party formed and I don't think there's been enough discomfort yet to get people out in the street, so to speak and do what you're talking about. I'm not. I'm not hopeless on this. I have. You don't have to be on the street to be doing things behind the scenes and talking and getting together with everything going on. I don't mean that. I mean to get active. Get up off your ass and go Do something, like attend the meeting or do what you're talking about. I get that. Of course we can't. We can't attend meetings right now because we're in lockdown and everybody is But I'm saying that once this once this is done the frustrating that people are feeling right now it is going. It's gonna happen, and it's happening right now. People are talking to each other. And they're saying, Hey, you know what I don't have to work through the Republican Party or have to wait to the Republican Party says. Here's your candidates for governor. You know, we can start doing something right now vetting their own candidates. Floating their own names and figuring how we can do it. We did it before. There is no checks from the Coke brothers. When the tea party started, we did it on our own diamond on time. Here's the catalyst on you. Tell me if this is off base It's going to take people finally realizing. Oh, my God. You know, I really supported Biden. But for some reason, my single family housing is not zoned out of existence. Oh, I supported Biden. But Man, the stuff I was gonna leave my kids. It's being taxed out of existence. I mean, that's what Z Dad. It's when it hits financially, and it's gonna hit financially within a year to big time. Okay, But I'm gonna say this all this stuff and again, there's 20 unless generous 20% of the people that are engaged right now and the rest of them. I agree. You know, the kind of out there living life having fun. I vote but whatever, but I'm not feeling it. But whether Trump takes the White House or not, he is not going away. No to me. I call it Trump unleashed. If I don't take the White House, man, I'm going to be exact and some retribution and I'm just pointing out and here for the country's gonna be doing the same thing pointing out all the stuff that we weren't about. The two guys thought would never happen is going to start happening. This movement needs to grow. I see. Donald Trump is becoming more of a dynamic force than he ever was. The problem's gonna be this. It's twofold. We're going to try and make it so they can't get any communication out that that that's gonna happen. It's already happened that our president has been completely shut down right now and tell him if he doesn't delete two posts. He won't get back out. And if he does, he still can't tweet for 15 days. It's absurd that the other thing and on Facebook to the other thing These rallies that bring people together. That's gonna have to come out of his pocket now or some kind of a donated fund more so than ever because that was all election campaign money. Much of the security for him was provide while he's still got secret service protection, But you get the point. It's gonna be a lot higher to get the message out. But I said, I don't think Donald Trump is backing down at all. I don't need it. Let me go back to say before there was any Donald Trump and back in 2000 and 9 2010 when the tea party started It cost me probably 2 to $3000 to do that really implement, But I paid it gladly and 1800 people showed up. I'm willing to do that. I'm sure other people are but what I'm saying. What I'm trying to say is, people don't be discouraged and don't give up. The states have rights and the lines have become blurry. Right now we need to formulate and get back together and say This is what we can do. And this is what we should be doing. I'm just saying, I want people to stay engaged and get ready for my need them when we do and and you're absolutely speaking to what we can do, Yes. That's right. Okay. Don't soldiers don't go away. People don't give up. Just hold tight and see what comes out. But I will have to say that I am not going to Wait for the Republican Party or anybody that's in the so called authority or power position to tell us what we need to do well on most of them. I want most of them taken out of office. I'm dead serious about that. I want most of them Primary out of office. I mean, almost to the man to the woman. I can't think of one right now. But I support not one. I'm disgusted with every one of them. I'd haven't gotten to it yet. But a lot of the people that we thought were on our side are not even Christy Nome is going south. Right now. It's pissing me off those damn Crenshaw. It's disgusting. Well, you know, I guess I'm gonna be realistic Bill about the money issue. There is only so much money that the grass roots the masses can can get together. So what you have to do is you have to sit down and you have to figure out a plan. But for me right now, my plan is getting rid of a governor. And getting getting the top three officers back. However, we're going to do that. But like I said, I'm not gonna wait for newspaper articles on who they say this is should be important and it can't wait for that Running for governor are Mike Shirky or Lee Chatfield? I ain't voting for him. I don't give a damn if they gotta after their name. I'm not voting for them. I will not vote just because somebody's republican anymore. I've run that strategy out till I'm blue in the face. And people would always come at me..
WAAM Talk 1600
"lee chatfield" Discussed on WAAM Talk 1600
"I don't go for that, Ivan. I support people doing it. But I also put in the proper perspective. Let's Let's talk about that. For a second. The The crowd yesterday. Was big. And crowds like that tend to get out of hand when they're really big, and there's something that they're driven toward her pushed toward that could go South. That's what happened to the capital. But that wasn't the trump supporting crowd that did that. I'm not making excuses for them. Let's say car plants because you know, some people may have gotten slightly caught up in it, but by and large the people that we're doing that you could see it. That was Antifa 100%. Plus, there was a call to action for Antifa. That one up before that happened. Straight up that was planned it out. Now that the Rallies that took place in Lansing. When people were walking around with a RFID 15. Acting all macho like, and now we're here to express our second Amendment blob of which was stupid. People came down on me for that because I said just that That was stupid. That was that was that was a show of idiocy. We're gonna walk around Lansing with a ours because we can What does that do? What does that in any way, encourage to do anything toward possibly making it such that we get open carry reciprocity. Baba, by anything to do with the Second Amendment scares the hell out of everybody in the Capitol building was scared of her own shadow. Even on the Republican side. So I didn't support that and that whole thing about Let's go to Lansing in our cars and, uh, tie up traffic. What was that called? I would, but there's a name for that free. It was called stopped well, gridlock or something, anyway. That would have only been effective. That didn't move the needle and people got mad at me for that. We're trying to do something here and make a statement. Yeah, but what you're doing is you're feeling good about going to a rally. It's a feel good thing, man. It's like a rock concert. Because that doesn't move the needle operation Roadblock. Thank you. Pals of mine. Put that on. They called me before they did it. They wanted some input from me. I don't know if they still do after the way I talk on the radio now, but at the time they did, and and I thought to myself I agreed with. I talked about it with Petkovic and we both said the way this would really be effective. As if you had Mike Shirky and Lee Chatfield in the head cars. If you had some type of political Component to it. That didn't happen. So everybody went there. As I said yesterday about this thing in D C. What? And I posted this on a couple of Facebook post. Uh, What happens is on the trump side on the way the thinking site people go to the rallies. Those people were wondering what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen? I said they're going to mill around for an afternoon of they're going to go home. And they're gonna leave the place cleaner than when they got there. Because they pick up all the trash around them. Even though they didn't bring it. That's what we're thinking. Do they just do it? I think it's genetic. But yeah, the rally they're not moving is not moving the needle. It's gal. You're supporting each other and you're keeping people kind of fired up. But the last end all be all is that Donald Trump needs to invoke the Insurrection Act. And the executive order from September 2018. There's no other way. Colin, welcome down the edge. I say wrote thanks for taking my call. Um, I've been listening to, um To you today And then also before you gosh, was a Dennis Prager of which I have to say. I really like way better than kill me. Oh, God. Damn. It sucked. I mean, preggers actually got a brain. Absolutely very, very smart, very, very articulate person. And I agree with a lot of the sentiment about, you know, carrying carrying a ours around at the Capitol, and then you know what the melee that happened yesterday in Congress and that, but For me. Um, what it spoke to is that I think You know, as the had the bottom line being do we want our elected representatives to be at least a little bit afraid of us, or do we want to be afraid of them? And I think that it's better that they be at least a little bit. Afraid of us. Well, I don't think they are, though. Do you think well liked, but maybe a little more like you say, move the needle a little bit. Maybe they are just a little bit more afraid of us than they were. Uh and and again, you know, I'd rather them be afraid of us and also afraid of them, But I don't see the big afraid of us. I see them painting the picture as the people that did what they did yesterday and did what they did in Lansing and other places around the country are the right wing nut cases that they're not afraid of that they need to protect and guard against And they are not in any way going to respond to any demands from people like that. Oh, you know, I hear you and I am through with you. You're gonna fear I'm not trying to throw cold water, but it proved otherwise. Well, you know, I get it, you know, in in public and when they're all gathered together, and and that sort of thing, but when they go to sleep at night Maybe they might be thinking. Yeah. You know, people are serious now, will you here? You know, I think you know that the political class is in America has become a pseudo royalty class. And shortly after we've informed as a country, but it's become a suitable relative class that's entitled They call it the best damn job I've ever had center and that's where they're at, and they don't care what we think out here. They go along to get along. I mean, the reason we're in the shape we're in other in the public school system, which I was on. Deep yesterday, eyes the Republican Party has completely acquiesced reach across the aisle. I'd go so far as to say, Don't reach around that they just didn't give in. So where we're at right now. Well and and I'm I'm totally with you on that, and I'm hoping That may be. The Republicans are getting a little bit afraid us. The people would be good shit. They should be. They should be. They should. And by the way, the way we're talking right now, they say, Let's see that these guys need to be arrested. These are the people the broken the Capitol Building history. It's coming again Won't listen. I'm telling you something. Listen, comments for real. We're going to see a Communist hurricane hit these shores on January 20th. That's gonna be the you're going to see the gale force winds come in. By June or July. Quite seriously. What we're talking about now could be hate speech. Oh, yeah, well Bring it on. All right. Listen, thanks for the call. No, I'm with you. I'm with you. Politicians should be afraid Not that they're going to get their car keyed or that they're gonna get somebody's gonna show up at two in the morning is they're getting out of the car and going to the graduate their personal home. No, no, no, no. That's antifa stuff. They should be afraid that they're gonna lose their job and they love it that they're gonna lose their job really fast, Not five years down the road. If they don't total line of what the people actually want, and the people did not want. Joe Biden is president. Uh, let's see what Look, I've got this right. Ken has to say can walk him down the edge. Well, Colin seems like a cool guy, and I respect them quite a bit. Got good patriotism. But these people are not afraid of us. Know very few of us it all or not at all. They look, they look at us with disdain. I'm not. I'm not uneducated guy, by the way, had a second. Hang on a second. I just took your call, but I interrupt for a second. Did you see any of what happened yesterday after they reconvened? They have under disdain for us utter display for us. It's an old voices that was in every statement. They hate us. Absolutely. Lindsey Graham. Even push him off. Oh, my God, that kind of money taken. Oscar Wilde said. There are two tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want. The other is getting it. He wait till these Democrat voters.
KDWN 720AM
"lee chatfield" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"All right, Welcome back. It's the Vegas take so glad you could join us on a Tuesday by the way, coming up at the bottom of the hour. Gonna talk about this crazy airport story that happened at McCarran. It's nuts. Getting on a wing jumping jumping over I'm just trying to think what drugs that guy was on. Thinking that he could do that and why he would do it. I just don't understand. We'll get to that. One of the most famous Raider fans of all time. He's a part of the very famous black hole. Reiter Savage will be joining us. 11 30. What's going on with the Raiders man? I don't know. I have no idea. You know, we talk about alleged voter fraud. I want people to understand something because I think this is very important. There's always gonna be voter fraud. Right When you got 180 million people voting, especially I've never said there's voter fraud doesn't exist. Of course it does. Whether it's hundreds or thousands. Of course it exists. Every four years. We have voter fraud. But this turns to read voter fraud and widespread voter fraud that can change the outcome of the election. That's all now if you disagree with me Just explain to me why Donald Trump's attorneys can't win in court why the Supreme Court keeps shutting them down. Very fair questions. And we had some callers. You know, that called in last segment that as shady a very specific and I think very fair question. If there is widespread voter fraud, why have the attorneys not presented any Evidence in the courtrooms to judges. Now I know the answer to that number one There isn't and number two. If they make stuff up in front of a judge, they can could be disbarred for that. Folks, this isn't like Extremely genius stuff. It's pretty logical stuff, I think, right? I think it's pretty logical. And as I try to tell people prepare if you're trump supporter that Joe Biden is going to be your next president on January, 20th. I mean, I don't know what else to tell you. I'm just being honest with all of you, that's all. What else do you want me to say? I try to be honest with you every day on this show. I never lie on this show. I certainly have made mistakes. I'm not perfect, but I come on the show. I do a lot of show prep and I try to give you The most recent and important information that I think you need to know. And I never lie. Never go on social media and just read something. And just assume it to be true. Do research on it. And I try to find out what's really going on. And you know, we have some Lot of irresponsible politicians out there. We heard of this guy. Very ison. I believe I'm pronouncing his name right? He's one of the Michigan State representative. He's a Republican. He was stripped of his committee assignments yesterday by both the Republican leader Lee Chatfield and Speaker elect Jason Wentworth. I want you to have a listen What Gary Ice and had to say, Cut eight and understand that when you incite violence People could die. Have a listen to what Michigan State representative Republican Gary Ison had to say. So we're going to make an attempt because there we can't keep me from going into the capital on official business that they can't do that. Okay, So if they did today, they were simply going to move our event to a different location. And proceed with what we're gonna do today. What? What? What event? Are you referring to? Yeah, it'll be all over the news later on. This sounds dangerous. Scary. I'm not kidding around and violent protests. Uh, you know, and then asked me if I would assist today. And I said, You know what? How can I not? Who asked you to Our Gary? Who? Gary, who asked you to assist in? What kind of assistance are you providing? Okay. Originally, it was to supply Guy support and escort certain members in and out of the capital. Okay, and, um, I can't go into a lot of it. This is a Michigan State representative that went on the radio yesterday. Republican Gary Ison, and he is inciting violence. I want you to also have a listen to how this interview concluded. Have a listen to this. Which I was state representative Gary Ice, and Gary. I'm concerned about violence today in Lansing. I understand your passion about this. A lot of people are passionate about it. Can you assure me that this is going to be a safe day in Lansing? Nobody's gonna get hurt. No. All right. I don't know, because what we're doing today is uncharted. It hasn't been done. There's more to it than what I could say right now, but after it's all said and done, and we want to go back and talk about the details of it I didn't want to happen to you. Okay, so he's inciting violence. And he was stripped of his duties. First committee assignments absolutely, and positively disgusting. And in case you missed it. Cynthia Johnson. Was actually threatened in a voice mail as many other politicians, Democrats and Republicans when it comes to the selection. Have a listen to a voice mail. Somebody left her a voicemail. Have a listen to this. I hope you like burning crosses in your front yard because I'm sure by the time this is all said, and done, there will be several. And maybe even a new sir to hanging from the tree in New York. You don't Um right now. I mean, that is just deplorable. Obviously Cynthia Johnson as an African American, just racist and violent and a threat. Come on, guys, This has no place in society. And I know everyone's not leaving Voicemails like that. I know if you think that Donald Trump on the elections Certainly I disagree with you. And I think you're a moron. But I know that you're not leaving voicemails like that Many of you are not racist. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, everybody should come together even if you disagree with Joe Biden winning the election. Everybody should come forward and say, Man, that's vile. We shouldn't tolerate that. That's racist. Nobody should tolerate violence threats. Well, that's not what Gary Ice and did the Michigan State representative who happens to be a Republican. He didn't do that. Can we just call out what's wrong, for God's sakes and not have to worry about Republican and Democrat? Anybody who threatens US sitting congresswoman? State representative..
Science Friday
Biden's win still stands according to Michigan GOP leaders
"Group of senior Republican legislators from Michigan was summoned to the White House today. But after meeting with the president, the lawmakers say they will follow the law and normal process of selecting Michigan's electors. Chemical sense gave from member station W. K A. R has more After the meeting. Republicans might Shirky and Lee Chatfield released a statement saying they haven't yet received any information that would change the result. President elect Joe Biden won state of Michigan by more than 150,000 votes. Many criticized the meeting as an attempt by the president to influence the legislative leaders to appoint electors loyal to him. Both legislative leaders said they would follow the law and that the certification process which happens Monday, should be free from threats and intimidation. The statement also noted quote Candidates who win the most votes when elections and Michigan's electoral votes for NPR news. I'm Abigail Sense Ki in Lansing,
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After meeting Trump, Michigan Republicans say there are no new details that change state's vote
"Leader and House speaker will follow the normal process regarding the state's electors in the presidential election. That's what Mike surely and Lee Chatfield said After a Friday meeting with President Trump, the duo noted, there's nothing they're aware of that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan. They also argued the state certification process should be free from intimidation and threats. House Speaker