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Remembering Kobe

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54:52 min | 7 months ago

Remembering Kobe

"This Gal Pals Radio Dot com the radio DOT COM APP. Come into here on a Sunday evening after the devastating news earlier today. Kobe Bryant died in a helicopter crash. In calabasas California -Fornia just northwest of Los Angeles. Tragic News comes on Sunday. We're coming to you here with reaction to that. Honestly I'm Steve Sirri alongside NBA champion Kendrick. Perkins who's GonNa join us. Give us some perspective here in just a second Five total died in the crash including Kobe. Thirteen year. Old Daughter Jonah. They were on their way to you. Heard Travel Basketball game. Another player in parent was also a fortunately on the helicopter and also lost their lives. Kobe Bryant was forty one years old. It's one of those things where it just. It's it's it's it's hard to comprehend. It's hard to put in perspective such a incredible tragedy for somebody who you know. Yes was a sports figure but almost seem larger than life. I mean there were reactions from all sorts of Sports League corners of the globe. Who wanted to pay their respects to what was one of the most fierce competitors of in Sports of certainly in my lifetime and I'm sure many lifetimes people covered and watch sports for their entire lives incredibly tragic news here so we're trying to give some respect us some perspective reaction And all of that and I want to welcome in NBA champion Kendrick Perkins who joins me now and I appreciate purchased us on short. Notice your today guy who was. A competitor competed against Kobe for many years including in finals. he joins us now perk hopping on today. How are you? I'm breathing sororities. Those all good man you know. It's one of them days man dark cloud over your head man. You just don't know how to today how to feel so I say yeah well I mean. Obviously it's incredibly difficult to put into into words. You know I remember when I found out it was right after the news broke following it on twitter and trying to figure out what was true. True what was in your heart just sinks and it's like this can't be real. This can't be real this guy that you I for me. I'm thirty one. I grew up. Idolizing Toby my you know he's one of the reasons. I fell in love with basketball. What what just you know giving them? That's what was your first reaction when you heard the news and the incredibly sad news today will not first reaction was was like not as can be true light right here. We go some Hugo someone just spreading these rumors and you know a helicopter crash all of a sudden just because you know Kobe known for taking the helicopters Kobe. Like I ain't believing is in and then all of a sudden it just like you know you see all social social media on twitter networking working. You see people. Just you know. People of relevancy is tweet now. You know Kobe died today in knows. Aided I true win saying I so and then all of a sudden it is thought coming now. You used to turn on CNN news you playing craze and then awesome when you get confirmation life roads and and stuff like dead man it takes it to another level man and I just broke down Kobe nine had battles when I was in Boston when I was in Oklahoma City of competitive. I'm talking about from start to finish in. You know a memento. Kobe had like we have respect for one. Another outsider food like I was a huge span. His and people don't know he was a huge fan of mine. I don't I don't know people realize but like all even even noticed thor. I'm a one time I was out vegas. I was getting ready to go to a nightclub and I remember coat. This co become. Coming up behind me baffles me and was like what's up hurt me or one of my favorites man. Best Post the film there in the League and he don't even know like that just made me feel like at the top of the world man's real man and I just had a conversation with Cogan some of these people couple weeks ago like about the mom of facility and get my boys down there and then just out of a sudden this come about mantis heartbreaking. You is all have worse explain. Yeah I mean it really. It really is because this is a guy who you know. So many people know from him on the basketball court. But it's almost you know. He had so many aspirations things that he wanted to get to in his post. Baseball career already started on that. He's he was an academy award winner. Her you know He. He coaching his daughter's yet his hand in a million different things and he was such an intelligent guy whether it was on the core off the court whenever you heard an interview with. Kobe was just like this guy so so cerebral he so I am. I'm just impressed every time I hear him talk. It's the you know whether we're talking about basketball talking about life. I mean you know people always go back to the Mamba mentality which you you know. Some people may poke fun but it was. I mean Cope mcabe that was real for him and I think it inspired a lot of people to try their best into put their best foot forward and never give up always. He's work their hardest. And that's the one of the things that I think is so we'll we'll be a lasting memory of his is like nobody worked harder than copay and this is a guy who is you know. There are memories and stories of him being in the gym late night early mornings so many hours You know obviously the talent was there from the from basketball perspective but a lot of people. I'm sure Perkins you can attest you have talent. How many people I I mean how many people have the will and desire and the hatred of losing and the love of competition that Kobe had that really made him the mob mentality thing that inspired so many people for what is not even close? It's not even close. I mean Kobe was different than any athlete. I ever been around any basketball player. Ever been around. There's no disrespect to of Kevin Gone. Ned is no disrespect to Lebron James Russell Westbrook all those players that I play with Paul Piss you. Everybody is no disrespect. But you know you go back to just you know. I just went back to thinking about Kobe and reflecting flicked on him as a as a as a basketball player. And as a man. And as a as a father. And you you you you'd never we're gonNA find a guy that meant. That was more mentally to Nick Kobe Bryant and just think about it he wanted to be like the great the the Great Michael Joy like if people used to say. Oh man you crazy this kid and lost his mind note. All of a sudden he worked his way through adversity. What do people tell them? He wasn't GonNa beat this person and and and to me. He's ugly top five greatest players to ever play the game of basketball. And then you take you go to Koby as a man and what he accomplished outside of basketball like every time he speaks speak like my God. It's like listening to the president and then you look at him as a father figure. which was you know like? That's that's that's what touched me most. Yes you know you watch all these videos of him with his child man and with them at the game and he explained to his his daughter. How you know certain situations about the game of basketball and all of a sudden the find out today then you know they was actually going to workout this morning? And I'm telling you man. You know itches. I meant it really touched home with me. I swear manny assuage so it is and it's you know it's really well put Perkin. I think the you know as you mentioned. He was on his way with his daughter. Jonah on a to go to one of the Travel Basketball tournaments and you know that in the post you know playing days Kobe. You know that that's what we saw. We saw him with his daughters with you know with his wife. You know he'd be you know He. He was a great family man in that sense and coaching his daughters. And there were so many inspirational things you can see him passing down to them and just cool to see the immuno be this massive part in their lives and their futures and the accolades are there. I mean at five time. Champion two-time finals. MVP HE WAS MVP VP in two thousand eighteen time be all stars four-time all-star Game Mvp. The guy was bigger than life. Really Perk and you know for me on thirty one years old. I grew up kind of on the tail end of Michael Jordan and basically during During my basketball prime of knowledge and learning the game and really knowing the game it was mostly. Kobe was most of the Kobe's prime so I grew up with Kobe in the man. And you know it was. It was just so inspirational like guys at the gym. I mean everyone when nose now like you know. You're at the Y.. Your plan pickup hoops down at the park. Or whatever and guys are taking turnaround jump shots yellen. Kobe like it was just the cool thing to do. Everybody wanted to be like him and everybody wanted to play like Kim and have the mentality that he had and be the winner that he was and you know he was just a he was just such you know he was a secure on and off the core whether it was you know in life and endeavors endeavors were whether it was winning championships. You such an impressive guy and I mean what would you like to be around and Utah. You played against him talk to play with some of his former teammates. And you know he was underneath guy to play with that. Imagine too he brought out he would bring out a lot of you and you would ask a lot of you and not everyone could live up to the competitive nature that he had and he certainly butt heads with teammates in the past because Kobe had this elite mentality of like I do anything possible in my strength not to lose and to be the best person I can be. WHOA I mean? Can you share some stories about you. Know what a guys tell. Oh you what was it like being a competitor against him. What guy say who played with him? You know what was he like. On the core upper man he was a real man. I mean like I'm GonNa give you an example when we play kkob in the finals. Those years that was the celtics versus the Lakers. We got the fort will. We were saying you know what we came to the conclusion that we were saying in the locker room. Hey man were gonna let Kobe get his. Because we couldn't stop him no one could. You did not even a double team. So we're GonNa let Kobe get his and we just gotTA council everybody else. That's how great that's how a competitor he was. Most people don't even understand in two thousand ten game seven of the finals. Kobe didn't shoot abolish extremely will he was like six twenty four but this he will dems victory. He had eighteen rebounds. He had eleven offensive rebounds at the A to go up position like that. Just tell you his mentality like you. You know certain things. You just can't teach his wheel like Soroti. He's one guy does going down in history man like he's GonNa have both his jerseys. Retired on one team with the Lakers. Like like that's unheard of. He was great as number twenty four and he was great at the number eight man and it just is say eh man. This is like this is the worst day of sports history to me. Man Like my opinion is the worst day sports his I. I've never experienced Venus. And then like this says been fan of basketball kid says since playing the game of basketball and since now being retired in the media this as this is absolutely the worst day ever in history of sports. In my opinion. We lost a Gook Luke we love the great yeah and you know I think one of the things that today brings out of this. Incredible tragedy is sort of being able to reflect and remember all the great eight things that Kobe did. And all the memories that we have of him and there are so many By the way listen Discount Palacio radio dot com the radio DOT COM APP. I'm Steve Longside. NBA Champion Kenji Perkins. It is a sad day coming to you because of the news earlier this evening of Kobe. Bryant passing away in a helicopter crash. And you're right it's it's an incredibly sad day and I I think you know seeing the out the outpouring support of him in the love of him whether it's in the NBA circles of games that are going on now as we speak. We thought we saw a couple teams. Take Twenty four second shot clock violations right off the bat to honor Kobe number. Twenty Four. I've seen you know soccer teams. I've seen football teams. Everybody you you know. All sorts of athletes and teams paying tribute to this man. Because you know Kobe was one of those guys you know. Yeah he he. He was made famous by because he was a basketball player. But as I mentioned with the mob mentality and who he was being larger than life Kobe was the name that you know. I mean that was known all around the globe China Europe Even other countries in Asia South America the name. Kobe was as far as athletes go. I'd have to say I mean up top five as far as guys that you just knew and you didn't have to be a huge sports fan. At a WHO Kobe. Kobe was a pop. Culture icon Whether it was commercials whether was any of the media endeavors that he did Kobe was just larger than life. Man and you know like I said as a kid growing up you know when I was in I think I was probably twelve or thirteen or so. When he started winning a championship with the Lakers? I grew up in Orlando Magic Ben. You know that perp but I was also also a Kohlrabi and I think that's what a lot of people would a lot of people have had the same relationship with Kobe. was they may have been a fan of of their team or whatever but they are also Koby fans and those. Kobe fans are as loyal as they come because they knew the horror and the dedication that he sort of gave to. You know pretty much all walks of life whether it was on the court and off the core and not something that I always remembered. Ah Striving to do. I remember like try to practice. Kobe moves in the backyard and Emma on my driveway and turnaround jump shots doing up and under moves and things like that all stuff that I tried to alert Kobe and I didn't have any sort of the near athleticism that he'd had but just watching him was great watching his clips on Youtube. And you know just the things he did he and he was. He was so fearless too. He was never ever afraid you know he. He didn't always make shopping. He was never afraid to take it. He was never afraid to have the ball or the pressure on him in big situations he certainly butted heads with people because it was because of his desire to win and his desire to be great and I think you know. He wasn't afraid of what people thought of him. He didn't want he didn't care if you were friends than he wanted to win basketball games. He wanted to be this elite guy and he wanted to be one of the all time greats. And he's going to get. I mean he's already going to go down as you mentioned him in possible. Tout five definitely top ten elite scoring player elite mentality. And you know we We just lost we. We leave asked player and we lost an elite person really today in the tragedy of as I mentioned forty one years old. And we're GONNA talk to some more people coming up here. Rick Bucur is GonNa Join US guys. Who covered Robert Him for a while? Now we're GONNA talk to Ryan mcdonagh as well And shot to have some more reflection here as we go through the next half hour so here on the show but Perko head elaborate on that. So cerruti satellite think about this right think about just this situation as opponent you hate coke as the latest thing you love right but let me tell you how. Let me tell you like if you go back and you look at Kobe. Farewell to you his last year in the NBA. It was like the best thing history the way tried to have one where he had one but then what nearly what Kobe Bryant was like. I'm talking about like this do was like it's all of a sudden it's like as opponent you went from hate weakness guy to when he was walking away from the game you was like no. You're not leave a cold. At least give us two more years. You was another another year like I'm telling you I was in New Orleans during the farewell to a man and it was just like it was. It was unbelievable how everyone was just there like coby coby Like if it. If there's any other year like in his prime he he will begin voting but that just goes to show you like they hated them as opponent but they love coke but you had the love Mike you just had yeah to as a basketball player but I was just you know more so I became a a bigger fan and fell in love with Kobe even more more he retired once he retired. Man He he became a person that was more of a icon figure like board just like outside of basketball man just the way care. So as family man man the way he started embracing his role Rolette been a mentor to even young guys in the league like the guys who was coming into the League to work going into the Mama facility to work out like managers is just like man i. I actually became a huge of even bigger fan once Kobe retired. 'cause he started showroom. Um your whole `nother side of him man that you know. I fell in love with a man. I want to be like Jill like ways. Candidates surfing stuff. Like that. Manages manages is unbelievable through to be on his. Maui love I have anymore shave man handler have bake with. Oh it broke is all Shettima. I shut him earlier today. I mean it's just it's it's an incredibly sad and You know but as I mentioned like the thing it comes out and says we can now share all the memories that we have and We're GONNA bring in another guy here for some more perspective Guy Who covered Kobe for a lot of his career and Was You know a guy who was with them through a lot of things winnings wins losses ups and downs and is ric Bucher. One of our regulars here on the show Rick appreciate you hopping on today and these difficult times times perkins just you know sharing our members of Kobe and things like that stories. And all that and I'll start by asking you this you know. What was your initial reaction when you heard the news and You know because you know Perkins economic talking it just it it it. It's almost impossible to comprehend what has happened. And it's almost impossible to put it in perspective but rick. What's your thoughts right now? The first reaction was. This can't be true. This can't cope. This doesn't happen to Kobe Bryant. I always always in my mind's eye imagined him to be like James Brown. You know he would be one of these old dignitary ambassadors of the game and you would look up to him as an icon forever knowing knowing how he had evolved from when I saw him coming to the league. Playing for the Lakers Summer League Team Long Beach State back in the day and the pyramid to seeing him evolve into you know a family man and as the day has gone on and I'm reminded about more things things about what I knew about Kobe. In Our interactions and the things that we shared is made it harder and harder to to accept it like before it just. It wasn't real like when I came out it's TMZ this can't this doesn't happen to Kobe. And then slowly but surely early it became confirmed. And then we find out about gee-gee and then my daughter was the first one in my family too. I hear Richie goes did you hear this or did you see this and coby hit invited her to play one on one against Didi. We talked a lot about coaching and coaching kids. And how to bring kids up the right way in the game and anytime over the course of his career was we got to know each other and we talked about family. You know that that thing. That perk was talking about that that family man that post player like I. I saw that I saw the rudiments of that when he was still playing when he got married and the ad kids and he would just he was he would just gush and if you if you you brought up something going on with your family like he was he couldn't he loved talking about that. He loves that part of his life and so so as I think about him going down. forty-one going down with his daughter I just it is. It's so hard to wrap my head around but it just seems so unfair for a guy who we got to see his entire journey and for all the accomplished as a player and it was a tremendous amount. There was still like he was he. was maybe Halfway through everything that he was going to do and everything that he was going to enjoy in the comfort level with which I saw him living his post this career life that is so. That's as rare as what Kobe Bryant did in the League. He was not only not depressed oppressed or struggling with the change which I expected he would but he was he was not only an not only embracing it okay with it. He was thriving driving in it. He was flourishing in that. Second Life both as a dad as a youth basketball coach and as an artist and so the think that it's ended it's gone in the blink of an eye. I just that there's never I wasn't around when Steve Ripon tain died the runner up in Oregon I was I remember exactly where I was magic. Johnson announced that he was HIV positive. And that for everybody at that time thought that was a death. Sentence thought that he had just announced his death But outside of those two things. I don't know that there's ever been anything that's happened to anybody in the sports world or certainly in my sphere the compares to the abrupt and just disbelieve unbelievable shock of the idea that Kobe Bryant is no longer with us he's RIC Bucher longtime NBA writer And I was sharing sharing the stories early thirty one years old Kobe. I kind of the tail. Oh ended the Jordan era but for guys that are my age. Kobe was the Guy Kobe was the man growing up. And whether it was the first championships with shack with the Lakers and the next one next to with with POW Ghazala he was bigger than life and he was the person that I think everyone every player sort of strive to be when I was growing up people yelling Kobe at the park and trying to be like him trying to copy his moves. And I imagine like you know that that was a very Jordan thing and for a guy who who who model out of his career after Jordan. Rick what do you do. I mean as far as all the guys you covered in your career. How unique of a person was Kobe? Like how because you're right. He had so many interests off the core. He his post career her his post life career was seem to be going incredibly well as an academy award winner. Coaching Coaching Coaching Up Kids coaching up his daughters doing many different things where seems guys struggle with that. Kobe was not struggling with at least that he showed US thriving in it and sort of was like okay my basketball chapters over now. It's it's time to to be great in something else. Put into perspective just like the elite mindset that Kobe had like how unique was that around the NBA. Like how many other guys can say that because he the mob mentality tally thing wasn't it wasn't just like a thing that he had. It was a lifestyle rick. Yeah he's Long said that he was one of the most fascinating assassinating people that I've ever covered. I've got to know both inside or outside of of basketball or sports because he did have this. It's just Indistinguishable drive and confidence but he was also very complex. I mean he was he was he was flawed. It was he wasn't a perfect human being and he showed us all of that. Like all of that was on display display. You never you never wondered what coby was thinking or hoping to do it was right right there in your face any made no bones about it and so I'll never forget walking out of the the staple center with him the last week or so of his career playing career and I said to him. I said you know what I got. Got To give it to you like I expected you were going to struggle mightily with this and we might even here you know in the in the final weeks you know what. I'm rethinking this thing about leaving the game. And he looked at me and he's got smirked he said. You didn't think I was going to be like Michael did you. You and meaning that you know Michael Jordan's competitiveness all the way up to being in the hall of fame like he didn't want to be inducted into the hall of fame because of many couldn't play anymore or that. That was the suggestion that he couldn't play anymore that I figured Kobe was every bit like Michael and it was going to be the same thing he was gonna find it difficult difficult to fill or fulfil you know answer that that that drive and that fire to compete and that somehow some way that was going to. We're going to see that and there was none of that. There was I mean it was. I'm turning the page you think of. How consumed he was with basketball? The ball and he turned the page and he not only went on. He wins an Oscar. He he's like he starts a series of books for kids. It was like that's what made him so fascinating to me just when you thought you know who Kobe. Bryant is because of because he's showed you who was keith like he turned the page he do something else and I'm sure perk like it was the same for you like playing against him just when you thought you understood what he was all about or what he could or couldn't do do he freaking do something and you go down that he's us. Reinvented itself again. We're just I just told that Cerruti. I said man during the finals. We came to the conclusion that we were. Just gonNA take everybody outside. The pitcher and Kobe just was going to get his. 'cause we could stop. You know I was. I was thinking you know earlier. Today I was sitting there man I would just reflect back all the moments and how like Kobe. Now have become good friends since we since I retired since we both were tied like you know conversations that we've been having on the phone of late and you know you think about everything right so you're thinking about like just a Cobham the Kobe Mamba mentality right like and it's almost like when you go through adversity. Are you going through a difficult time. I know I'm a user. I'm just GONNA say you're not I I used to have those bracelets out on those say that that bracing the will be what would Jesus do. Yeah I'm going to say we're Kobe do like now. 'cause I I mean w take me like what will you do because like just think about it like you know even like this like I. I started thinking about everything. Thanks so once I heard that like gee-gee was involved with this with this this tragedy and she she lost her young life and you know it hurt him and and I'm thinking I'm like I wonder what was going on like I could just imagine koby in the helicopter time. Like could you imagine what he was telling L. in his daughter man like a strong. It's GonNa be okay like that's just his mentality like I was telling Cerruti like is just you know I don't I think I will ever come across the guy like Kobe. Bryant that forget the basketball just mentally tough just you just like it is to me it just like when I heard about it I was like. There's no way because the Kobe Bryant that I know he would found a way to get out of the helicopter crash. You like you could tell he wasn't a vessel and that's perk. That's the whole thing like you hear about a helicopter crash and Kobe's lost his life hyphen. And that was it for me. It was like no koby would find a way. A Kobe doesn't happen to Kobe. Kobe like a fix the helicopter. He would've got up top would've replaced one of the Roeder's or or or would have done a shoulder roll out of the helicopter. Just that's kind of you just always figure it out. You always figured he would figure it out. And so that's what still makes it. So and then on top of it was like if he couldn't figure out well he sure as hell not going to let G G go down down in this like he's GonNa find a way and so that to me is what makes it so hard to grasp along with. I just the number of conversations I had with him about different things where his mind would go and end and a watch. I think you know for me in particular watching him grow up before our very eyes because look he got beat up by. Yeah those vets. When you first joined that team they were jealous of him and he didn't care as a kiss straight out of high school he was gonNA fight his way through that and then when he became a star like he could be tough son of a B. When when as a teammate or in a variety of ways because his his his one minded minded drive he didn't always treat people the with the greatest respect? And then you know the Colorado thing happened and I saw him go through another transformation formation but but but I saw all of it and I think that's what's so one of the many devastating things is. I saw Kobe growing throwing all along the line. He was always evolving. He was always improving. He was always getting more mature. And that's where to see him and to see this end for him at forty one. That's what just doubles down the tragedy. Because I'm like there was so much More for him to do that. You knew he was going to do whatever it might have been and to think that. I don't get to see that in in my small way. I don't get to experience it that that with him or to to watch that happen is it just makes it makes it really sad man makes you can talk all we want about you. Just have today but you know he was larger than life and he was living at into see that struck down makes you realized. No one's you know. No one's safe from from having that same thing happened. Radio DOT COM sports. I'm Steve Cherie alongside ric Bucher her and NBA champion Kendrick Perkins also live in Chicago on six seventy to score rick. I'll Getcha on this. I mean you know we could talk for hours about Kobe. One of the things the lasting lasting legacies I think is like the guys now in the league that have that Kobe's either mentor has an impact on. I mean they're playing games right now. It seems almost impossible because some of these guys probably grew of itemizing coping wanting to be Kobi. What could you tell us about? Just how he impacted this next following generation of players that are better playing now and what what his impact meant to them. Well that's what's so funny to me. Because there was a point in his career where I said we should do a book. We should do a book about all all the things that you've done to become who you are and he was like. I'm not giving away my secrets. Tentative part of it was I don't I don't want anybody to catch up with me and and I even joked with him. I said you know that's amazing. Kobe said because when people ask me how I did what I did. I'm more than happy to share. Share it with the because I know while they're working on getting to where I am I'm working on getting to where I want to be. So they're not going to catch me as it. Can you imagine that I have more work. I have more confidence than Kobe. Bryant and we we laughed about it right so about a year and a half later he came back to me and he was like any not only did he wanted. He wanted to do that. Book forgotten that we'd had that conversation he was like I wanNA leave something behind. I want to leave a legacy and so I kind of laughed at that and then I looked at the you know. He had the Mamba Academy where he brought. All these guys in. I mean think about this. He brought like twenty top guys invitation. Only you didn't want any advertising on. It just wanted to come. And bring these guys in and share all his secrets and all the things that he That made him great and and he was doing it for all the right reasons. which is I just want to? I want to hand. I want to hand off what I've learned all all that I gained. I WANNA contribute that back to the game. I will say this. You know. It's one of those things copays and he. Obviously he did it with the love for basketball the ball but and we see players all the time they get kind of lost in you know the branding and the advertising and a lot of other pursuits and he has fling with being a rapper. Or whatever but you never for second ever doubted that basketball meant everything. The coby and the Kobe's pursuit was to be the best player in the game and to win as many championships as possible hospital. And it sounds like every guy should have that but the reality is it's kind of rare that guy's never lose their focus. Kobe never ever ever lost his focus. That that's what he wanted to achieve any never shrunk from the challenge of. I'm trying to make that happen. And that's along with many things that that he's given us. You know the Mama mentality and everything else that ability to focus in on on one goal and not be afraid to just go for it all out. I think it's what served him so well in his postseason career but it's also the that is the thing that I will will always take away. Is You know what can I accomplish if I just say. This is the one thing that I'm going to go after and I'm GonNa commit everything I can to making. The thing happened. So so rigs rudy. I got a question for both of you guys right ric. You know you. You know Kobe right right now. If Kobe had gifts a worse to you Rudi about what happened to him. If you could just put put Joseph would he tell you right now to the concerns of what in terms of what happened with the crash. Yes would you think Kobe advice ice will be to you right now. He just had a spirit just to come in. Just talk to you. What would he say it would? It would be. Hey don't waste this moment. Can you get out of this moment right now because you don't know if you have the next one and he lived a lot of his life that very way which again is what makes this doubly tragic right because there's a lot of people out there that need a wake up call all to get there and maybe an maybe in one way. Maybe that's where we get solace because Kobe for forty one he lived a full life man he got a lot in. He packed a lot in that forty one years. And maybe that's the that's the solace that we can take from. It is that you know in spite of being struck down too soon too soon he he still managed to live a full life. Yeah I think with a with a with a slate of games today people were. We're calling for them to postpone this. A lot of people say Kobe you know with with his mindset and thing would've want people to play through. This would've gone he loved. The game of basketball would have wanted people to do that. And you know as far as hard hard as it is I I think they all right. I think you know Kobe's a guy that was always mind over matter and was was just a so cerebral and so intelligent of all this stuff and I think you know what you know. Want people as you said Rick to to you know. Don't don't don't forget any moments. Don't make sure you hug your loved one. Make sure you don't take anything for granted life in and really give it all. And that's what he did. And as you mentioned in forty-one years I'm not sure many people accomplish as much as he did so Rick I really appreciate hopping on short notice in in such a tragic day but we really Your perspective and I can't thank you enough. Thanks so much. You got guys Steve's Rudy and Kendrick Perkins here radio DOT COM sports in six seven to score in Chicago. We're going to be joined by former Sun. Gm Ryan mcdonagh. Donna in just a few minutes here I think some of the you know an interesting perspective from perk they are from From euchre there. Perk is that like that Kobe mindset like how many guys you were playing language guys. How did you guys like him like what are they? I mean obviously his teammates. We we talked about. He was a tough guy to play with. But when you were playing with Kobe you knew you were playing with a winner. You knew that you were going. It'd be competing for championships. And he was GonNa make you better Butler guy who we talked to all the time. One of our regulars on Scallon Pals is said like that guy made me into the guy that I was because I didn't have the mindset that I needed to be great. He taught me how to be great. And if you open up and let mom let sort of the mob mentality flow through your veins. It's you're going to be able to reach levels that you never reached before so what what can you tell us about like tonic. Guys and ways. Perception was around the league from both his teammates and competitors competed in the finals against him. Or you hated coat light light but you had to respect you like. That's the thing he didn't care you didn't like him he didn't give you eighty you had to respect him though light like that's the thing that anybody around the NBA to say from guys. They played against what I'm talking about all the greats to anybody who was on this team you might. You might not have liked Kobe but you had to respect them and I think respect I rather personal respect me than like long as you respect me. I'm for them as I'm respect you with. Kobe had the respect of everyone in the entire. NBA Yeah you might. Some people might not have liked toby hill. Some people don't like me Cerruti here. Some people don't lie he didn't care he didn't care logos they respect you. That's that's all that matters and I can say is four hundred and fifty people volunteer feed the players and the League four hundred feet. The players respect the Kobe. Brian and you can see it man. It's guys who never had a conversation with cokie then it just touched my wife. She may be a few times but she she met him in New Orleans one man. Kobe had a thirty minute chat in the locker room. And we talked and we call say Gee was right She just you know what's the point where she was just like what not Kobe. My wife went from Hayden. Kobe's a Laker because of I will compare them to like obviously outside of me Kobe. PM like one of her favorite players just because we got to meet the real colby like the person Koby like the personally Kogo the coke the guy who was the human coby the father the outside of basketball he was so so down to Earth. People don't even notice it. Kobe was down the man like not people say he was a real serogin. Yep News a real While perk I mean you know one of the one of the incredibly sad and you know now looking back. Lebron just passed him. The all time points Last night and Kobe tweeted out. You know continuing to move the game forward at King. James must respect my brother with the strength EMOJI and Hashtag three Three three six four. I mean the guy you know was still sort of a huge part of the game. I mean I I saw the Bron wrote like you know both Kobe's numbers eight and twenty four and a shoes last night. He meant so much to Lebron so much to two guys that were playing in. You know I know we've got some tweets that will put up some from some other people around the league because the incredible amount of support that that came out from this and here's Kareem abdul-jabbar on twitter saying now most people will remember Kobe as the magnificent athlete who inspired a whole generation of basketball players. But I will always remember him as a man who was much more than athlete. And that's what he was he said he he transcend the sport of basketball. He he you know he was he was he was larger than life. I mean Kobe was this iconic. Just say Kobe was like Oh yeah. Kobe Kobe the guy was such a unique guy you name. He lived in multiple countries yet. Such a unique background M- early intelligent guy and as Rick said had so many different things that he wanted to get to in his post career. Life it. Just a really. Is it really really is tragic. I mean there's really no other way to describe it and it's as I said you just can't can't comprehend it because you know you knew that greatness was going to follow him anywhere. He went and had already done that with some with an Academy Award with coaching with the Children's book that he had out there are and we'll get to some more of the tweets as well as we go through here but You know for anyone who was just. Who's just tuning in now? I'm sure you know the news but you know we're we're comedy here on. Radio DOT COM COM and six seventy dischord Chicago after we found out earlier today. The devastating news at Kobe Bryant died in a helicopter crash and Calabasas five total died in the crash including Kobe's thirteen year old daughter. Jonah Donna You know it's there's really worse. Don't do it justice but the thing that we can do here tell stories about how great the man was and how great of a player and a person he was in another guy. We're going to bring in to give us a little bit. More perspective here is former sons. Gm Ryan mcdonagh. Who's one of our regulars and McDonough you? You obviously were with competing against him. You know trying to make moves to stop Kobe. Throughout throughout the years I'll start here. I mean just your reaction to the news when you first heard it because obviously it's super tragic and as I mentioned you really can't comprehend. What was your first reaction when you heard the news today? The McDonalds McDonalds. I before before you give us your insight on on a great Mambo Kobe. I just WANNA actual question real quick me me lighten up. The mood is dead. A framed photograph via to the Grace Yellow Green Bay. I'm glad you asked Kirk you you buy yes it is it absolutely is ironically. The White Mamba Right. You know the White Mumber. Yeah we'll yeah about the white race here in Arizona they call Niko manion the Red Mamba so And that's all all attributed to Kobe and what he started perk. What's up man? It's great to see you again. I wish it weren't under these circumstances. Cerruti I think you know my perspective on Kobe. Just my the question you asked my initial reaction was this is impossible or I hope it's wrong and I think a lot of us had that reaction listening to you too and rick doctor out the first hour show so so of the show. We just hoped it was wrong. We hoped it was an error we hoped and then when it was confirmed by legitimate sources. I really hope that his daughter wasn't on the plane a- As a father of two young kids I really feel so badly for his wife Vanessa and their three surviving children. I just gutted about that and and it goes beyond basketball. Obviously we'll talk a lot about Kobe and in his impact on the game and and and that was another tragic part. where the you know just any way you you think of this? This is to me guys like a Greek tragedy. That really is how I feel about it. It doesn't seem real and I say it's tragic. It's not only was Kobe. One of the all time great players but you talked a lot on the show but what are you accomplished away from the game and I was just interested as one of his peers is a guy who was around the same age is Kobe as his scowl. And as Ron just what the second chapter the next act of his life included it seemed like he was already doing some great things he was going to do a whole lot more and for me. That's what's really really tragic about this awful news today. What was it like I mean putting together rosters and putting together guys that you could take on the legendary guy that was it'd be as I mentioned before he's he's bigger than life? Like what was it like you know sort of competing against and trying to find guys that had you know that whatever it took to compete with this guy who seemed like he was a legendary status as far as mob album mentality and the attitude that he had wait. What was it like putting teams together to try to battle him? Yes so so the two teams I work for ten plus years and the Celtics Front office when Kendrick scall- Gal and watch great players play for us in Boston and then the five years is the sun's GM. If you think of the Lakers historical rivals especially during Kobe's career those two teams TMZ or right up there as far as the rivalry. So I think if a different ways I remember when I was helping Danny ainge put together teams when we had perk and Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen Alan Paul Pierce and Scowl and Rondo specifically tried to build our team with guys who could defend Kobe because we knew at the end of the day all teams were healthy in that window from two thousand eight to two thousand ten. It was going to be us in the Lakers in the finals. And we needed multiple defenders to throw at them. Which is why even beyond Pearson Allan on guys like James Posey? We brought in Tony Allen. Were really important because you had to build a team around and I think the modern equivalent of that it has to be Lebron. There's only maybe one or two guys. Maybe just one guy that you have to build a team around today's NBA and and and for those younger fans or you're listening. You didn't get a chance to see Kobe play say that was Kobe as far as you know another thing. I thought it was the player of the decade. Lebron was just named athlete of the decade for the two thousand. Ten's I'd say for the a two thousand just in my opinion in the NBA. It was definitely Kobe Bryant. There was nobody else in the NBA from two thousand and two thousand and ten that window. Lebron was coming up with. Kobe was the man and I thank as an executive in the Celtics offer that time we had to really try to load up our team because that guy was super human and Perkins talked a lot on the show about his competitiveness about what he did when mistakes were the highest. And that's another reason. It's so tragic I mean per it doesn't it doesn't seem like that was just yesterday that we were in the staple center for those games or in the tea garden for those games and you know in the blink of an eye. He's gone it just doesn't seem real running. Go ahead. I'm still I'm still over. Just think. Thank like like this can't be like this can't be real like I was telling us to rule the early earlier Ryan at this is to me and just in my lifetime. This is the the heart is like. This is the worst dipped in in sports history. My thing like I think this is. I'm ready for twenty twenty to be over with already. Saw Thought Twenty twenty one like I did not want to start my year off like this. This is like beyond crazy but I'm thinking right now as you were speaking is when you say you know your heart goes out to the Nelson and Kobe's Hovis family. You know right now. I was thinking because I'm always trying to put myself in and like Kobe shoes. Would he would be thinking right now and you know when he he probably would tell the world on more the more my daughter please. I'm okay more my door this with Kobe probably would say right now. Like it's just like I mean just like McDonald's APP if I'm wrong or right but I don't know if I ever met a guy like Cova Eh. Not Mitts Li like the Milton toughness. How strong he was? I don't know if I ever seen a guy like Kobe. Bryant on and off the court I have now perk. You're exactly right. I mean his his work ethic his mentality talked a lot about the Mama mentality but it almost didn't seem real you. Some of the stories seem like fictional. There's no way he was up at four. Am in the gym. There's no way that in his last NBA Gay game in two thousand sixteen. When I was general manager of the Phoenix Suns the team came off the court in a bunch of guys stopped on the way down to the locker rooms rudy? There's a video room where the video guy said a approximate coaches offices in just about every player in uniform who could fit into the room sat there because the Lakers game was a little behind our game. It was still going on. I believe they're playing the Utah Jazz to watch coby Bryan score sixty points in an NBA game in his in his late thirties. And then the stories about well. He was at his office working on the next chapter of his life with us. Businesses at eight. AM The next day. That doesn't seem possible. Who does that is? Kobe did Kobe. Not many others would do that. And and so. That's the kind of the second chapter. The first for me is is the Celtics years alongside Kendrick in scale and the great teams. We had in Boston. The second is as jam and the sons from two thousand thirteen to twenty eighteen eighteen. All of the young players are best player in particular in Devon Booker. They idolize Kobe. The they looked up to the guy. And and you talk to kids some. We hadn't phoenix some some in the pre-draft process that we didn't acquire what you ask them. Who Do you model your game after? Who's your favorite player? It was coby coby coby over and over again and so so just the respect that those guys had for him. A competitor in Phoenix got a lot of attention here in his last game against the suns against Devon Booker favorite player of of all time. They're playing a game in Memphis. It's about to start right now. And I imagine Devon is Gut it knowing him like I do and in. Kobe signed shoes. They said book be legendary. Sorry just seeing how much that meant to Devon as a young player. The Kobe not only knew who he was that he respected him. I remember Kobe telling Devon Kobe was guarding. Devon Devon tried to move movin Kobe say. Hey you can't do my move that's my we can't steal my move and endemic thought that was great coke. Kobe realize the impact he on Devon while he was still playing in his last years. There's a Laker. You know all this. I mean it's. It's maybe trivial but I think on days like today's important to remember the good times and just the impact. He had on people in short time on this Earth Earth which which for me you know transcended sports and really is another reason. This is such an awful day. LISTEN TO RADIO DOT COM sports. I'm Steve cerruti alongside Oxide former sons Jim Ryan mcdonagh NBA champion Kendrick Perkins Talking about the life and the unfortunate death of of the legend Kobe Bryant and just a couple of things that we've been pass as long trae young tonight is wearing number eight in honor of Kobe. Bryant they took an eight second backcourt violation. We've seen in the rapper spurs game Both of their games. I think I believe there was a twenty ninety. Four second shot violation to start the start the game in honor of number twenty four Kobe and there was a guy who owned two numbers in the NBA. In was it was almost like you know he was two different guys in those two numbers as well. I think it's interesting to Ryan that you know you. How many guys are growing up idolizing? Kobe Bryant wanting to be like Kobe Bryant but the really only is one Kobe Bryant with the talent and in that mindset like you know how hard was it sometimes. It'd be like I know that you want to be like Kobe. I know you wanNA play like Kobe. Kobelco there's only one koby like there's only one really great all-time great player that can be that way and it was Kobe Bryant. What was it like trying to get the best out of guys because we know we know Koby as you said like with Devon Booker like? Kobe was always willing to help guys out as rick. bucur join Israel. He said he wouldn't give away all but secrets but he would tell you how to work. And how to be the best guy you could beat around. Butler told us that multiple times that he sort of changed the way he thought about his career. What was it like like you know you because you were? GM and assistant jam and the time that Kobe was there when a lot of guys came up looking. You know wanting to be the next Kobe Bryant. What was that like kind of scouting those guys and knowing that that brand ran a basketball with what a Lotta guys wanted to play like well it was something where you try to figure out how to deliver the message to young players? That don't try to be like Kobe because you can't can't do what he does. It was beautiful. It was poetry in motion. As you guys know that's part of the reason that he was so popular as a player with the turnaround fadeaways in the step back up and under one of things that came to mind. I'd be interested to get perks. Take on this. As well was how creative he was as a player. I mean. Remember the one handed shots. I mean he chewed one one handed right handed and left hand in one of the things. I remember in the finals. When we played the Lakers I camera for his two thousand and eight or two thousand ten where Cerruti in the finals team sent as you can imagine they send a bunch of plays into the League office looking for any kind of advantage whether it's fouls traveling calls at Lakers sent a bunch of film on Paul Pierce Saint? Paul was traveling and and we sent a few plays in on Kobe. He had this mover. You kind of do an fake and step through and we travel in the leaks. Actually it's not and so we went and looked at the rule book and he said Yeah. That's right how come nobody does that. Then we we started laughing and we said well. Nobody can do that or nobody knows to do that. And that was Kobe athleticism to do it in the mentality to do it. which perk imagine made him extremely difficult to guard? Now you right right. And Look I'm glad you know nickleback ah just host Rudy through what I told you at the top. Put a show about US though Celtics in Boston Gays Ryan Man. Listen we came to the point where we was like. You know what we're just GonNa let Cole. Oh begin he is and we gotta take everyone else out. And hopefully he stroked all we can do is make him. We could contest put a hand up. I mean obviously you guys did a great job but you know the only person that was stopping. Kobe was code. I don't give a damn if men cagey was going trapped or whatever the case may be you you just had the wish and pray that he had off night and I was telling Ryan I was telling them to rudy. Remember game seven of the finals. The the one that we loud that I didn't play and Kobe was like six twenty four from the field right but he hit eighteen rebounds. And I'm thinking had eleven offensive rebounds like that's how bad he wanted like you can't teach K.. Stopped it as wheel like as just like I mean he. He was just differ man. He was different like you know a Lotta guys. Try to compel you say man. He could be. Kobe was in the League of your mom. He was in a legal result. Most guys we're going to We're going to wrap it up here. We are going to have more reaction tomorrow on Gal Pals mcdonagh Nile beyond starting at eleven eastern time with more reaction on the life in the passing of Kobe. Bryant a legend No passing away tragically in a helicopter accident today at the age to forty one Ryan I appreciate you hopping on. I'll talk to you tomorrow. We're going to be back with more gas and more perspective. Here's looking forward to talking to you about that. Because at this point I mean for for for as much of a tragedy is what what is the the the great thing is we can look back at great moments that we had and I mean we haven't even gotten even scratched the surface on all the things that we loved about Kobe. And that we you know you know that that made him one of the most memorable players of all times. I want to thank you for hopping on per thank you as well for on short notice. I know what is such a really difficult time for you to hop on his law and give you a perspective so I want to thank both of you a ton. Yeah no problem man Ryan Cerruti. I have a good day man. Remember what would Koby Duma. That's what I'm standing about. Twenty or in sports a live by live by the man Ryan. Thanks so much. We'll talk to everybody tomorrow.

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"Is your money not sure what to do with itself right now at ally. They'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools. Bucket your money for the things that matter most analyze your spending and save automatically all on top of a competitive rate for all things money you deserve. An ally visit A. L. Y. Dot Com slash savings for more INFO ally? Do it right ally bank member. Fdic so to watch your MIC is highlights. Damn somebody was doing all go. That way flew through the air on pretty much anybody. Mid Range shot playmaking ability. Everything brought to the table. He's a leader but he put into most work. You would always the practice and again. The working said they really stands out. Plays like somebody's watching them for the first time. Doesn't want to disappoint Marian. Sega changed over first impressions. Welcome to the job. I'm Rachel Nichols alongside the hall of Famer Tracy McGrady and the Champ Kendrick Perkins guys. It's Friday I know it's hard to keep track of days right now but I swear it's better we got all of Michael Jordan's best soundbites from the last dance. Cued up and ready to roll later in the show is Mj. The goat of trash talking stick around to find out. What teaneck perk think of that but I today NBA. Commissioner Adam Silver and headed the players Association Michelle Roberts are hosting a conference call for all players. Basically this is to give players a chance to ask questions as the League explores options to resume the season. Which if there are any players watching this show right now and I know a bunch of you. Do Please asking questions for US please. Because we all want some answers. I do know at least the practice facilities for the Portland Trailblazers Ankle. Cavaliers are set to be open for the first time two day since the season was postponed back on March twelfth. The Denver Nuggets for originally scheduled to open today. But which is important. They have postponed until Monday. As for the Mavericks. Their facility is not opening today or Monday guys even though they are permitted to by the State of Texas where you both are coming from right now amp by the MBA mark. Cuban says he's concerned about reopening the NBA is not allowing teams to regularly test players. Something experts do recommend as part of a precautionary protocol. Here's more from Cuban on. Espn radio's Freddie and Fitz symon show talking. About how hard as decisions are. I have? No idea honestly you know. I guess getting feedback in terms of what players would be confident. And you know because that's what this is all about. Who Do we trust with our lives? Seriously if you're a player who do you trust with your life if you're a coach or trainer or anybody for that matter that's you know essential personnel getting something back together? Do you trust the hotel that we're gonNA stay out to everything safe and the technology they're using the the protocols are using. Who Do you trust with your life? And that's a big question to ask somebody but you know we all make decisions like that every day. Do you say you out? What do you do? Where do you go for your groceries? All these things so knowing that teams. They're not testing players. They're not allowed to but they are doing temperature checks. I should say they're not allowed to test you. If you don't have significant system symptoms but they are doing temperature checks. They have everyone gloves and masks. They have cleaning crews come in between each player workout. Would you feel comfortable working out in the team facility right now and I guess that's a separate question from would you even want to? I mean I listen. I've never been through anything like this. I can only go back to when I was training getting ready for a season and what I did I never went to the practice facility or the arena to get my training in mind some local high school or I will go to Shaq's house and train all the time I would never. I mean that's that's just my experience. I never went to the practice facility or never went to the arena to practice. Because I live outside. The city was forty minute drive. I didn't WanNA keepdriving there. Every day so I found a local Churchill of a high school somewhere that had Jim. And that's where I my workouts never went to the rain and then when I play for Houston you know force enough to have a gym as May I may. Here's here's here's here's feel one thing about it. We all know that. Mark Cuban is a television human being and one thing. We also know that not only sees the owner. But he's a fan of basketball and I know he's spending for basketball to come back. I am but I tell you. One thing if Mark Cuban who lives in Texas and he had access to open up his facility to players and he has concerns and not opening up his facilities. I have concerns to would because he knows he knows something that we don't know. And so you know no disrespect to Adam silver but mark. Cuban has been very evolved or doing this corona virus pandemic and in the NBA. So if he's not opening it up that means that you know all the ts are now crossed and all the is not daddy and then on the flip side of it. How would it look like you giving taint certain teams here start of other teams? What do we like that? You know what I'm saying. He Megan Rachel. What if what? If we was going into training camp you give give a certain scenes the two week hair. Start a basketball. How would that look like I don't know but I'd ask why is this is just too much inconsistency inconsistency and trying to figure out how to make this thing work it's taken too much man we gotta go throw this. Why even have a season? Well that's part of what? Mark Cuban was just saying there right that it's very complicated. There's all those decisions to be made in his point about. Who Do you trust with your life is? He said we do make these decisions every day. Right when you get in your car you drive down the highway in Texas where you both live. You are trusting a little bit that the other people driving the other direction aren't just going to swerve into your lane. We know how tragically Monty Williams wife died a few years ago. You make these decisions every day. It is hard the Gorby confronted on your lap. Well that's true but it is hard to make them all at once and that's kind of what the NBA is being asked to do? It'll be interesting to see what comes out of that conference call. Today are coming up Charles. Berkeley said he doesn't think he and Michael Jordan will ever reconcile their friendship. After disagreement some years back. Our guys don't agree. They will explain that. After this stay tuned it could be a routine drive to pick up the kids after school or an epic road trip across the country. No matter where your travels take you. We know those miles counts. We're marathon. We have over five thousand. Seven hundred stations across our great nation are people are working hard every day to provide you with quality top tier gasoline to improve engine performance. And fuel your life marathon fueling the American spirit geico knows there many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers band of brothers always there for you rain or shine to the amazing savings you get with Geico on your motorcycle insurance and accessories coverage all year round but for taking it was one reason in particular. It was my helmet hair. Uh born helmet hair. I've tried to cut it a bunch of times even buzzing but it immediately just goes back down here geico motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. The last dance continues with episode seven and eight Sunday at nine o'clock eastern six Pacific right here on ESPN. So there's a lot of things you notice about Michael Jordan and watching this documentary right. Just how unbelievable a basketball player? He was just out of the how out of control his level of fame was and just how insanely petty he was. The man is using a national television show. Being watched by millions to settle old grudges. Insult old rivals. Even just casually assassinated passer-by who wandered into his basketball life every petty reference. He made over the first six hours of the series. There are just too many but we decided to compile some of the best. Take a look. He cares even to this day. There's no way you can convince me you can take. I felt like was selfish. It's not equal opportunity. Offense go back alley boy wonder and Golah tonight. I wasn't a Phil Jackson Fan. You know when he first came in because he he was coming in and take out of Jesus was to tell me something. I noticed something here so many times tech you yell at me saying move. The ball mood of all an with the threat. I'm not saying he wasn't a threat but me being compared to him took offence. Come on now. He was telling me everything that's happened. Within the group Jerry Krause loved on and just because crowds liked him enough. You think he's a great defense. Okay I'll make sure that he's not great at into time. Which was a mistake at Thomson? Detroit here's Michael. I get the go anywhere but Yada in. Whoever's not with incredible nate and wait guys until you see the stuffy said to Gary Payton during the Nineteen ninety-six finals Gary. Of course well regarded as one of the very best trash talkers his own right but tracy after seeing. How many people like either in this doc. Do you give him the ground. You gotta give Mike the Crowd Reason. There's no limitations on his trash. Talk what I mean by that. He don't you a superstar in the League. He don't care for you as teammate. His coat he don't care if you GM might win at everybody and that's what you know. Separate him from a lot of guys some guys that trash talk they pick and choose. Who the guys they want to trash. Mike didn't have no limits or anybody. He when everybody. I look see meg. I'm bright which Rachel is. One thing that there's one thing that I took from the last dance documentary and Michael Jordan is a me Man. That man is said. Don't lose it we got. We got to stand down there. No Beaumont Texas when you assault type man when you saw on court we say hey man. You're what cool eight you know that team but guess what guess with him. Say What trump Louisiana Tabasco salt. A sad yes he is. He's one person who really didn't catch the vapors too much from an Jay. Too often in the dock was Charles Barkley which is notable because they are actually feuding in real life and happened for years since Berkeley criticized Jordan when he was a general manager in the Washington Wizards Berkeley on the waddle and Silvy show on. Espn ONE THOUSAND IN CHICAGO. And here's what he had to say about it. The guy was like a brother to me for shoots for twenty something years at least twenty some years and and I do. I feel sadness but like I say to me. He's still the greatest basketball player ever. I wish have nothing but the best but Hey nothing I can do about it brother Kendrick. I know you have some experience beefing over things on TV. What is your personal active on this? I'm with saw on this one light. We're talking about Charles. Barkley who says he became a media. Personality and a basketball analyst has done a great job. We're talking about a guy that has won emmys and he's done that by telling the truth not holding back speaking his mind and he didn't attack join personal personally opinion and so he was just speaking on. He felt for his about how. Mj was running his team. And that's part of it. I mean like so many guys have to understand like for example. I got friends and old teammates. That are still plan. Lebron James Russell Westbrook. The list goes on if they're playing bad. I- defies in nine filled. Speak the truth and say hey these guys got US chip it up the way around. I'm going to praise bill so at the end of the day was just job. And they'll join head his team when Charles will be the first to say. Hey Hey hey you're doing a great job so I'm we're Barclay on us when there's nothing else that he could do. Well here's my thing going. I hope they mend their friendship. A hat is furthermore we all brothers in this fraternity right so once we retire and we come into this business. We say some things that might offend some of our brothers I had a situation with. Jr Smith where? I didn't know I said some things that offended him and I just kept seeing things and social media. So I'm like okay. Finally I had to call. Jr Light Bro. What's up Bro? You know what I'm saying so we talked it out. We've mended our friendship because he did some things for me when he was younger came to a charity softball game of mine. And I don't want that relationship to be like that. I don't. I need to to correct that. You know what I mean because when I see him. I don't need it to be awkward feeling. Mj and Charles Barkley. They were brothers. You know what I mean. They had a great personal friendship picked up the phone. Call in and get on that out man. Life is too short to be few notes. Some bull crap like that rage rage you know how usually when you speaking the Gospel call you. Rachel thanks go today. I Swiss tea magnate. His name is Tracy Ole stay with us but he just gave us would just absolutely. We're borrowing nickname name because that was definitely the truth. And by the way Michael Jordan as we saw that documentary never problem saying things to people that they might not want to hear. You think he'd be okay with Charles. Our guys. I wanted to take a minute to mark the passing Mike Store and the father of our friend and longtime ESPN colleague. Hannah storm who in announcing his death called him. Quote relentlessly positive of fierce leader. Inspiring a forward thinker. And above all my greatest supporter. Now store was truly innovative as a sports executive guys in one thousand nine hundred seventy three store and became the Commissioner of the Aba. He played a role in leading the upstart leagues charged Assigned College Stars Helping Push teams to an eventual merger with the NBA store and was the first GM of the Pacers he was an owner of the ABA. Meant the sounds of the Atlanta Hawks. He will be remembered for his innovation. Most notably as a captain in the Marines where he created the toys for tots program. Starring was eighty four years old. A husband a father and a grandfather. He will be missed. The jump will be back after this short break tomorrow. Ufc Two forty nine is live from Jacksonville with the most stacked card. Ufc history to order the main part in English and Spanish go to ESPN FLAWS DOT COM slash p. and on ESPN today at five o'clock eastern. It's UFC live. They'll give you a full review of you seen to forty nine. That's followed by fresh editions of Sportscenter at six. Seven and eleven PM Eastern. Now I WANNA debut episode two of the jumps series. When did you know and this one features Tracy McGrady? I went from a player that was unknown to the number one player in the nation over. Of course the stock made a big impact the summer of ninety six at basketball camp. I go into my senior year in every game that I played. I will see. Mba Scouts culture. Telling me clippers. Here the Lakers are here. You tell me all these NBA Scouts in the building. And I went through my senior. Not really sure of myself plan in the NBA so I declare myself to go to the NBA. Still little unease about my my decision drafted ninth and nineteen ninety-seven bodies run raptors and we had a mini camp and Barbados. We'RE GETTING. We're playing pickup ball. I'm looking at some of these guys like Dan. He can use his left hand. He can only go right this too lazy right here coming in. I thought everybody can do everything. And it was totally opposite like some guys are just lazy. They're only good at one thing couldn't shoot great at rebounding. But he couldn't do this and I was like okay. This is what I have to do to be his greatest. I want to be and I felt like that time at that. Many camp like I'll be low because I had all the athleticism I was able to use my left. House AVIS use. My right hand six eight I can dribble shoot like oh I'm league ready. Here's Tracy McGrady getting his first action. Tonight it was my rookie year. We played the Bulls. We played in the skydome where the Blue Jays played. So when Michael Scottie and those guys came to tell it was like forty thousand people in there right before that it was probably five thousand people because it nineteen ninety-seven and Toronto is hockey hockey town. So we were playing to Kogyo and I had a breakout game. My confidence after that was so high I was going through so many emotional roller coasters dealing with my coat. Him Not playing me consistent minutes. I will play fifteen minutes here. Twenty minutes here and then I won't see the court for a couple of games so it was just a very frustrating year. I played against Michael Jordan. Scottie Pippen I had almost had record a triple double my rookie year. I just felt extremely confident. Olive Garden Michael's garden. Scotty I was like okay. I'm here dunked on Scotty and I was coming down on the break and I see Scotty under the basket and I just froze up trying to dunk on and I didn't get hired. I landed on his back and he actually caught me. Thank up because something seriously could have happened to me. So shot out Scotty per catching the young eight year old and not injuring myself further. But yeah I mean almost record a triple double one guys that that game and that was that was that was. My Browser was awesome. Thanks for Sharing Tracy and I wanNA move onto Klay Thompson the last time we saw him in an NBA game he lit up the Raptors for thirty points in thirty two minutes. A game. Six of the final you now klay does and game sixes sadly though we also know he had to leave that game with what we later discovered was a torn. Acl now closer does not want anyone to think that because he's been hurt this season the warriors are done. Here's what place it in. The last chapter of Rehab Series on new to this is called the kaiser permanente above the waves featuring Klay Thompson and the quote is it just kills me inside say these other teams so many talking heads and some of my peers thing. The dynasty is over. They had a great run. I have so much more to give patients definitely builds character. Alright so tracy. Do you agree. With clay's sentiment that the warriors dynasty is going to continue next season or it's definitely going continue. We're talking about a team that went to five straight finals. The top two guys on his team have been arrested and all season long. So they're going to be fresh next year. I'm never going against Steph Curry. And Klay Towns Long. Their legs are working. And Jimmy is working. I think I wish list does splash for this team. And we're talking about the green out of Sassy back. Vp still got more green over there. Who's ugly wanted the arguably one of the best in the game when his best? And then you add Andrew Wiggins in my opinion. Who's a Harrison Barnes two point? Oh and then they got the number one. Pick able to draft the kid wise men or toppling man. I'm not betting against them. I think they'll be writing addicted things. I'm weekly look. There is a difference those guys and I think this is what Claes kind of feeling there's a difference between hey they are titled Contenders which by the way the super elite group. We're only talking about three or four teams and I think people definitely think they're going to be in that next year versus what they were when they had Kevin Durant and everyone healthy with was. Oh these guys are going to win the title and we pretty much know that on October. First and in fact when they didn't win the title it was only after a couple of guys got hurt so I think that's what's kind of been introduced. Is that the mystery is back at least a little bit even though there's building contenders are guys. Thanks so much. Have a great weekend. We'll see you Monday. Twenty and twenty one warriors Burst Brooklyn Nets finals.

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The Sedano Show [Hr 1]

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

23:06 min | 1 year ago

The Sedano Show [Hr 1]

"Mullaly Mason and Ireland. George Sodano here Ryan Hollins this year spin. The wheel of sidekicks and up comes Ryan Holland's during the fanciest asked suit. I have long time super fans. This dial that is style my man, you know this. This might be the nicest compliment you've ever given me thinking, always complimentary. This is the this is the nicest is, is the nicest like your life on the impact here in a long time, he's emotional while I are for now, you never played with Jimmy Butler. Did you know played against Jimmy Jimmy, Jimmy tree, Jimmy trade, Jimmy practice, Jimmy, Jimmy buckets. Now. Yeah, he, this is an interesting tactic, right? Like my, but you and I were talking about this off air. It's really the only tactic. And by the way it's not like people here having dealt with this. I specifically remember Shaquille O'Neal yelling, Jerry Buss in Hawaii, I believe pay me. Yeah. So I mean, it's not like this never happened before. Right? Right. Although I'm trying to think was shack as much of a distraction in the locker room and involve his teammates Colgate, each other, right? They did all Anthony towns, Jimmy Butler each other, Andrew Wiggins. This happens all the time. There's always a screaming, match, shouting, match, a physical altercation guy hits big shot in the game, and you think he's yelling the crowd, but he's really pointing at his head. There's always some be on, go back on that one. Who was the guy that you thought was that people thought was yelling at the crowd was yelling his head coach. Disclose who's not playing that way. At least it isn't. It isn't go back to. I'll give you Cleveland. We had some people in Cleveland where that happened. Definitely with the clippers. That had did that. I'm not. I can't jump jump names, but yeah, no, it's very frequent that these things happen, but it was just really, really odd to me joys. And that's what we talked about is how is the front page in how exactly we knew what he said in? Yeah. Yeah, that's actually really interesting word for word. I mean, look, who does it benefit? The reality is that's always the question, right? Who does this benefit and if it benefits Jimmy for people to know that embarrassed the organization and the teammates, then my guess is there was someone in Jimmy's camp that was probably at that practice and saw that and then sent it out to everybody. He wants out of there by any means necessary. This is the means we got sources at the network that say, Jimmy set this all, but it's confusing to me because now you've just made yourself harder to trade. Now, this is just a bad perception in when you're thinking about taxes. Now, if this is next year's free agency, right? Let's say the team you go to doesn't commit to long term unless you got some handshake deal on a table. You just eliminated Igli seventy percent of the rest of the NBA because Jimmy, you now refuse to play with young players or thin skinned players, and now you, you have to be in a special type of environment. Jimmy. Oh, now you're saying is that there's probably more of those guys in the NBA than we think that we're led to believe, thin skinned players. There's more thin-skinned in there's more teams than not that actually are going young ace back to like like they're going to have a young star or young guy. This is not a guy that can mentor. This isn't a guy that's this whole. There was an anonymous GM that was cited in an ESPN article this week, saying that thing with Jimmy, is you gotta realize it's always about Jimmy. Yeah, that's yes, yes, yeah. Yeah. I mean, think about Derrick rose as soon as Derek couldn't compete it as high as level and look. We all had question marks of my thing athlete to athlete. You don't though another guy under the bus, you don't say what we all know publicly. You say what your boys you say would you know what your brother ala, Andrew. Wiggins with your burger account? Ajar. Burder count. Right. But shoot, I'll come out and slam your teammate, even though you don't. There's plenty of guys, I couldn't stand, you don't like, but you don't go public, especially not. When the cost, another guy money, this is what this is all about is money. Okay. Baking of which speaking of money? Yeah, s- time to play the stage. Why forgot about that? Yeah, hold on. I gotta get ready for my for our fantasy basketball draft. You got to prepare. I gotta got to. I mean, really, I'm going to read some stuff for. I don't look at Jimmy Butler. I pick Jerry. Savannah show rose on here on ESPN LA Ryan Holland's our guest coast today. We get a lot of guests today. We'll be talking Ryan. I a lot of basketball. We've got some football guests. Ryan Clark is gonna stop by at four o'clock. Jamie burgers. CBS sports, fantasy football expert at four thirty at five, though Sam amick of the Atlantic route. A really good piece about genius and how Koby Bryant was instrumental in her and this team landing LeBron James and we'll get to that shortly. And then marched Larry that five thirty. We'll check in. He's calling Rams Broncos on Fox Sports this weekend and Modell who you know very well for those that don't know who Modell is Modano video coordinator for the clippers Spurs and team Australia in international play for many years. And I thought it'd be cool to bring him in a because you and him know each other very well. Plethora of NBA knowledge and be a as a. Coordinator coming off a game where Lonzo made his debut LeBron's playing with these young guys. I thought it'd be cool to get a different perspective from guy like that who understands the intricacies of the game as well. Maybe even better at times than you. You know what I learned learned you're in ten years, an NBA film, don't lie right as much as you want to go to your your coaches or another player boxed out. No, I boxed out rebounder I'll run every time something different and the film says, oh, you sure. Are you sure. Sure. Right. Where you there on a charge where you there on the block or so famously we argue with the referees in we come yet. I was a foul. So last night Lonzo makes his debut. What was your biggest takeaway from Lonzo? Yes, a little bit of a rough start, but kinda got got to a nice groove later on confidence. He looks obviously no, he's out of the way you look stronger, more confident. Even his airball mom biggest pet peeve was his shot was his balance in his balance look, excellent. Even though he air balled in later on a game, he not one down, but I just like his his demeanor better yet. He doesn't look like, he's guessing that's my biggest thing is as a rookie in the NBA. Do you have no idea what to expect? Everything is going so fast in that second year you slow down and you really start to play the game of basketball. So I mean, it's just rare that you see the Simmons is I guess, if you can count that his first year Donovan's guys that just kind of blow up their first year, but I like what I saw from well to your point. And again, it's not an apples to apples comparison, but as a broadcaster, right, it'd been a long time since I called an NBA game, and that's summer league. I got a chance to call. Mhm games. Yeah. And I was blown away the first game I did in the first quarter. I was like in my head, I'm going man. This is moving really fast even for me just calling the gay just so I couldn't even imagine what it's like playing in those games. Dude. I remember my rookie year when I finally started getting so minutes because Bernie Bickerstaff was my coach, Bernie is old school NBA rookies like you didn't see your jersey play like not nothing. And I remember getting a game, I played really well towards the end of the game trowels going nuts. In the next game. They put me in early in the first and second quarter against the starters, the guy who actually play play and I remember Marvin Williams. It felt like he jumped from the free throw line. And I turn my head one time on on a rotation, and he just took off in dumped, and I was like, all my gosh, like this is so fast compared to college guards are so strong. They move. It's just everything is just a beat faster. Like you said, you're like I urge. Urge every fan to go sit in the front row, even if you go to summer league or something, and just watch these guys running jumping move, you know, look, you played ten years in the league and to your point, not only Lonzo, but you've seen kind of that maturation with Brandon Ingram? Right in the first year, he looked like a lost puppy basically out there noodle and then and then last year you could see, especially the second half of the season. He was kinda come along. You can see, oh, there's that potential everyone saw. And now at least in the preseason, you're like, man, this kid is he's coming together nicely now. Oh, you talk about composure. I are really love the way he's playing the one thing. I like what I saw from Ingram yesterday he knows his shot. He's figured out and this is in this is special to me, George. Okay. Tell me what you mean by he's found his shot. We'll get to that on the other side. Let's break and then and then we're going to tell you how Kobe gave Jeanie Buss the best advice effort that led to LeBron we'll touch on riot Holland's hanging out with us today. It's the Saddam. Oh, show here on ESPN LA real quick, though. One out of every four batteries is gonna fail. This winter get your tested for free during these superstar battery month at a Reilly auto parts. And if it needs to be replaced, Riley has the superstar battery. That'll fit your car truck at a rally outta parts, better parts, better prices, everyday, sit down, show rolls on. We're going to tell you what advice Kobe Bryant gave genie bus that led to LeBron just a second Samay make of the Atlantic. Did a story about that today. We're going to have him on at five o'clock, but Ryan highlands is hanging out with us today as our guest co host, we actually are until seven today. It's been a while since we have a full shows. It's actually nice. Seven. It is. Yes. Mike, by the way was out the last couple of days. Funches did an excellent job filling in Mike had a bug and we all been there. Yes, especially when you have those toddlers that are going to pre k. catching those germs. Yeah, bring it home and wiped out the whole family domino got a road that helps as soon as you get home, my kids have to shower. Shower immediately. We get those germs right off family. I can't afford to be sick. Yeah. Yeah. You know all days around Holland's. Yeah. Yeah, I hear you. I'm the same way we generally do that, but we slipped the other day and now I'm a little bit of like an easily thing going on. Yeah, because my daughter had an easily thing but, but it is cool to be here and Mike, we're glad that you're bad. I'm alive. I thought I was going to die. I. This school preschool, but it was like a stomach bug. That's the worst stomach bug. For his star sweating. You like what was going on here? Ain't you ain't no healthy. Mike Pearson. Bell's still happens to the best of us. You need some bad kale. It happened some back to being. I actually got food poisoning the worst food poisoning I've ever had what's was bad kale. I'm double upset because you trying to write thing. Yeah, and you get sick, eat some bad. Like like the worst food poisoning I've ever had and I've had on these five or six times in my life, but that one I got like a fever about how bad I got. You're making somebody like, man, I knew I shouldn't have been eating healthy minutes. Donald got sick. Yeah, I'm glad I, it took me a minute to go back to kale. I swear to God. It probably maybe like a year before I went back to the thought, I guess you could say you could. I could. Oh, I could talk about it. I could still taste the kale kale you. They did try to kill me. They no doubt they tried to kill that. I've a couple of times and it's been so kale one time the the next one. After that I remember when I was nineteen years. Kale from who tried to kill you. It was in Connecticut when I lived up there. Yeah. And the next one. The next worse food poisoning episode I had was I don't even know if they still sell this at Wendy's, but the spicy chicken. Oh, I had to that went about spicy chicken sandwich Indies. Yeah. And then I like Wendy's, I actually still go back to Wendy's, spicy chicken sandwich. Remember when they used to sell the pitas back. Yeah, like ten twelve years ago. One of the pitas got me once the second. So two times in your life, I try to eat healthy and they try to kill you. They did try to kill me. Tell me that so food poisoning, if you've had it, you've been lucky enough not to have it man counter blessings. Don't eat healthy. So you were talking about Brandon Ingram shot from last night, and he says, he's found his shot. What does that mean? What I say? He found his shot and why this is so important. He's about sixteen six, eleven, probably seven, two, seven, three wingspan. He's getting to the elbows. He's getting to those short corners and he's just pulling up in shooting a jump shot over people for a guy like that is so important. You watch the Colby's you watch the Durant's Larry Bird, Michael Jordan? No, I'm putting him in high company right now, but that's the importance of knowing your shot. There's something that Brandon Ingram can do that not a lot of NBA players, not many, if any great NBA players only have the ability to do and he's figuring that out and he's hitting it a high rate. He's posting up. He spinning off in that baseline jumper, he's getting to the elbows. And one thing. Portent getting to your spot. I remember I was in the gym one time will Paul Pierce when I was a younger play at UCLA, and I remember Paul with just shooting over guys who's making it easy in college. You kind of don't shoot contested shots. We all know that maybe there's one guy on the floor who can shoot the contested one. And I was just never. I said, Paul, how do you get your shot off? How do you do this? Remember Paul went on to tell me that I really don't see who's in my way. Once I get some spot, I raise it and I shoot and the man is one of the greatest players we've ever seen. Probably one of the greatest scores we ever seen because that's so when I watched that grove Georgia's, we talked about that maturation from Brandon Ingram. Oh, man, that's that's special and bully me. I'm coups Magai I believe has the biggest impact, but he has more potential. But you lose potential than Brandon Ingram? I believe Ingram Koumas better right now, his Ingram, Sean Ingram is better right now to see. He surprising me. Yeah, Ingram is better. Right now, I think coups because you play, he played three years or whatever wasn't college just based on age alone can't have more potential than, no, you get what you get. He's he's a safe bet. He's consistent if I want the guy who's gonna get me a eighteen to twenty point score night, you know, seven, eight rebounds big shooter NBA. I couldn't ask for more out of him, but if I want a guy that could be the next, the Durant, the next successor to LeBron puts intially you know, in the next four years, per se, or however long he wants. I'm looking at Ingram, so the way I look at it as this way, if you look at the championship level teams in the NBA, right? Yes. A lot of them acquire guys via trade or free agency or whatever, but they always have one of those cornerstones as a draft pick. Okay. You know, go back to the. I mean the Lakers. Right? Kobe's a draft trade, but Kobe was there. Yeah. Yeah, they bring in, you know shack? Yup. Shack was first, and then I'm sorry, they go train for pal. Right. And then next one was what Boston's Paul Pierce was already there. He goes there. Yeah. Then after that, who you have Miami. Right. Dwayne, Wade was already right the next one. After that the goals they worse. I mean, hell they, they have a bunch of guys. They did Steph curry, Klay, Thompson, Draymond, green. They bring in Kevin Durant later with this Laker team, Brandon Ingram needs to be that guy. I think one of them needed to emerge and I thought Brandon Ingram was most likely to emerge because I think he's just got the more most well rounded game of all these guys. So I think that this needs to happen for them to be successful and eventually when a championship, Brandon Ingram needs to take that step, knock can hear that. You do need. If we're talking dominance through the NBA, it is really hard to fall into the fortunate situations where you make a trade and you get a guy for one, he's cheap right now. So you can go out and sign other max players without having to pay him. He's not. He's not tearing up your salary cap for two. He's got that potential. And the reason why everybody was so big on. Remember I remember doing his draft day special or whatever. His lint has athlete assume the way he moves. He's got every component in the NBA right now, think of the best players in the game. George was named the best Kevin Durant LeBron James. Russell Westbrook, harden. These are all versatile players. These are all big long rangy guys who can play multiple positions. You know, respite can hard and maybe on the smaller tail in, but guys who can literally do everything in Ingram is fitting that mode and he fits it. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it. So I wanna get further into this game a little bit again, Modell who is a video coordinator for the clippers Spurs and team. Australia is going to be in at six o'clock, but Sam aiming of the Atlantic is gonna join us at five, and he's got a crazy fund story today. He spoke to genie bus and Koby and a couple of people and Coby basically, Kobe had a meeting with Jeanie Buss back when she was deciding on what to do with Jim bus and Mitch and Coby. I'm going to read some of this to you and just kind of give you an idea what her lunch with Kobe was like, he says, basically that he tells her gene. Your father gave you the last word for a reason. You have to respect that wishes. Well, he gave you the final hammer to make really, really tough decisions. And sometimes at some point you have to step into that limelight and make those decisions. You got two ways of doing it. You can let it continue to fester. Remove it piece by piece or just say to hell with it, we're turning over new leave. That's when she brought on magic right at that point. And she goes, you have, he told her, you have to send a message. He said he used a game of thrones reference. He says, at some point, the mother of dragons just has to accept the fact she has three big ass dragons and Jeannie you've always been reluctant to take the reins. So Bryant told her cut it all at once. I know it's hard to do, but if you want to turn the ship around, you gotta turn it around sooner rather than later than you gotta make those hard decisions. He said, genie, I know who were trying to get, we know we're trying to get. So that player is not going to come here with all of this bleep going on. It's not going to happen. So if you don't, if you do want to have the focus and go after the. This particular player, I'm telling you that you got to clean house and you just gotta reshuffle the deck and start a new. You have this new practice facility and we're just moving on. And then of course, we gotta have new management and we're off, but that player is not coming here unless you do that. He was talking about LeBron James and then everything happened. She got rid of her brother and Mitch, and then magic took over. So just just so you know, Kobe's involvement is still matters. It's not a day to day thing, but they clearly are lean. They clearly lean on him as they should. Oh, I mean, come on, there's no way that a player of the magnitude of Kobe Bryant isn't making moves behind the scenes and obviously you don't want to be in the forefront. You don't wanna be, you know, we all assume it. But of course, Coby was instrumental and he was a part of the brand. James, there's no way that LeBron comes the LA out of respect in doesn't pick up the phone and have a conversation with Koby. First off, you know, obviously the respect for magic, which we know that. Publicized, but there was definitely conversations and talk, hey, Koby. This is a reality. I wanna make this happen. Do I have your blessing? Is it worth my while? What do you see from these young guys who you have these intimate relationships with? Can I make this work? And apparently Koby gave that blessing and obviously step forthwith, genie, and made this a desirable situation. I've always taught Georgia and you know this from the last two years like you had to make this desirable for Kobe, the Angelo Russell stuff it had to go, okay. Even this coups Malone Zo nonsense had to go. They'll lay had to be a desirable place for LeBron James to land. Now, granted, you can say LeBron chose LA so you had to not mess it up, but you had to make the steps from the Bronx. Get here in the Lakers have a hats off. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm with you wholeheartedly. Like I think that they may off the biggest, but she had a lot to lose their. You know what I mean? Like he had a. A lot of stuff going on there that she had to deal with internally and it's not easy to let go of your brother. So Sam amick is going to join us a five o'clock. He has a lot more details. We'll get to that certainly as well. Mitch's Royal champ. Yeah, for sure. Coming up next Ryan Clark ESPN NFL analyst will stop by how does he see the Rams? How does he see them adjusting to some of the issues they're having on defense what to make of Jon Gruden and his growth recent comment of being depressed as the head coach of the raiders. We'll talk to Ryan Clark and just a second. George, you know what? Small business owners, you know that you can clear and straightforward. Communication is crucial. So an AT and t. says something and actually means another is getting really frustrating. 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Raise Your Game (with Alan Stein Jr.)

The Accidental Creative

21:29 min | 1 year ago

Raise Your Game (with Alan Stein Jr.)

"Today's episode of the accident podcast is brought to you by our ex bar. Rx bar is a whole food protein bar with no BS at twenty five percent off your first order at our ex bar dot com slash AC and use the promo code AC. Looking at the plug in the. Duggan luggage. In Doug, it everyone. Welcome to the podcast. My name is Todd Henry, I am your host. So what is it about the lead performers that causes them to be able to continually outperform their competitors time and time and time again, I mean think about elite athletes about elite artists thing about elite business people. What is it that causes them to be able to sustain performance even under pressure, and especially to go the distance to continue to be prolific brilliant and healthy as we call. It a Sea World over the course of years and even decades. Well, today's guest is Allan Stein junior. And he's just released a book called raise your game. Alan his coach some of the the most elite performers in the world and help them raise their game to a new level in today. He's gonna talk to us about what those elite performers have in common. The what we can do to work on our own game to elevate it to new heights. For we jump in on one let you know. Today's episode is brought to you by our ex bar. So I've talked a lot about how much I travel and sometimes when you traveling if you're going through airport, if you're running from place to place meeting the meeting, it's really difficult to eat healthy, and especially in between meals or especially in this times when you have to jump a plane. You don't really have time to eat something are you going to go to the fast food place or you going to try to find something a little bit more nourishing will are ex bar is tailor-made for that exact scenario, at least it is. For me are ex bar is a protein bar me with one hundred percent holding greedy. 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Get twenty five percents off your first order at Rx bar dot com slash AC and use the promo code AC checkout. That's our ex bar dot com slash AC and use the promo code AC. And we think our expert bar for sponsoring this episode of the Axial created podcast. Well, it's great to have on the show today. Allan Stein junior. Allen is the author of a new book called raise your game high-performance secrets from the best of the best. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, thank you so much Todd. It's awesome to be here. So you have a dizzying array of clients and people that you have helped over time. Us funny. Just reading through the early part of the book and seeing some of the endorsements and whatnot. I was actually kind of blown away by some of the people who have sung your praises. So can you just share a little about who you are? And what you do for sure, you know, basketball was my first addenda fable passion, I fell in love with the game around five or six years old. And and really haven't looked back. I did a bunch of different activities in sports as a kid, but always came back to basketball and was able to play in high school and then play in college. And then after still wanted to stay connected to the game. So I I basically became a basketball performance coach or a strength and conditioning. Coach I grew up in the Washington DC area, which has really rich talent at the youth and high school ages and was able to work at two different high schools that I think combined has put probably twenty twenty five players in the NBA players like Kevin Durant, and Victor Ola depot. So I I had an opportunity to to really work my. Craft with some amazing kids before they became famous, and then because of my relationships that those two schools both of which were Nike schools. I had a chance to go on the other side and do some stuff with Nike and with Jordan brand. And with USA basketball and see what some already established players, did, you know during the unseen our? So I got to work events for Kobe Bryant and LeBron James, and Kyrie Irving and Steph curry and Chris Paul, so I've had a really neat career in the basketball space of being able to see, you know, high performance and high achievers when they were just coming up as well as those that have already been established and kind of taken all of that stuff that I've been able to see and learn and observe and watch and kind of funnel that into my new career now, which is working with businesses and folks that want to apply those same mindsets. So I know a lot of people listening primarily creative prose are listening or thinking. Okay, basketball, great, maybe like basketball. Maybe they don't. You. I'm a designer, you know, how does this apply to me? And I was reading through what you've written. I realized that basketball is there you can almost parse it into the skill side or sort of the raw talent side and then the craft side of basketball rate. So there are a lot of players that have unbelievable role talent, you raw athletic ability, and that'll carry them so far, but if they don't work on the craft side of their game, if they don't develop that talent and learn how to really focus it, then they're not going to get very far like they might be pretty good in high school, but they're not going to be able to compete at a at a high level. And then the same way I think designer a writer somebody who's a craftsperson who is in an organization, you may have a lot of raw talent. And that raw talent will take you so far. But if you don't develop that talent, then you're only you're to hit a ceiling at some point. You're never going to accomplish. What you're capable of accomplishing. I think in this book what you've done is. You've showed people who who have talent. How to take that talent and get the most out of this kind of an accurate assessment of what you've done here, you totally hit the target totally hit the bullseye that's incredibly insightful. And yes, that's what it is a good portion of the groups that I do work with and speak with don't like basketball or watch basketball. And that's okay. Because what it is is. I basically translate the mindsets and the rituals and the disciplines and the routines of the highest performers in basketball and show people how to apply those to their lives and to their craft and to their work. So that they become the best versions of themselves. And you just sit at perfectly anyone on the creative side a designer a writer and artist they're going to have some natural inborn talent, and they're going to have some passion for what they do. But if they don't hone in and specifically work on raising their game and improving their craft then they'll they'll be a ceiling on on how well they'll perform and how well they'll achieve and ultimately. Trying to get out of the comparison game. So it's it's not me verse you it's me verse me, it's how can I become the best and then they can fill in the blank that. I'm capable of. And I've learned that that these mindsets and rituals and routines and habits, they transcend any industry, and they transcend any area of our life. That's great. So you divide the book into three sections player coaching team, which I think translates really walks players, basically, the individual right within within an organization, the coaches, the manager of the person leading organization and the team is basically how we collaborate the culture, you know, how we sort of exist with one another. So let's start with the players exiting. That's the part that really hits home for me. I was reading through the section realize a lot of things that you talk about here that I think aren't often addressed especially for for creative prose and people who are doing work with uncertain and they have to make up every day as they go. So you talk about the importance of self awareness. Why was that where you decided to start the? Doc. I believe self is kind of the epicenter, which everything starts, you know, especially from a creative mindset, we need to know what we're good at what we're not so good at what we like what we don't like. But we actually have to dig deeper than that. I mean, it's it's not only knowing our dreams and our hopes and what we hope to accomplish. But we also need to take a look at our fears, and our insecurities, and our beliefs and unpack why do I believe what I believe is it because someone planted a seed in me when I was really young, and I've just taken that at face value, or is it because I've actually given some thought and research the topic or looked for evidence to decide my belief so sofa awareness is the perfect storm of all of this. And the better we know ourselves than the better we can be incredibly efficient and effective applying our bestself to our actual craft. It was funny I often encounter people when I'm out working with organizations as you do, and you I will just start asking questions, you know. So tell me a little bit about your days. Tell me a little bit about your ambitions. What is it? You're really trying to do here. Which by the way is a question. It's really difficult for people to answer, your what what what are you really trying to do and they him, and they haunt they sort of talk around. You haven't given me an answer yet. Whether you trying to do why are you so frustrated why do you feel like nobody gets you, you know? And it's because often like you said, they lack self awareness. They don't they don't even understand what it is. They're trying to do they expect everyone else to kind of Intuit what it is they want. But they haven't even figured out for themselves. And it creates a tremendous amount of dissonance in their life. Right. You've got Pepita living with like you said false assumptions, false narratives ghost rules other things. And then they can't even really articulate what it is they want and yet they're upset that they're not getting it. And so how how do we begin Allen to become more self aware? What are some tactical things that we can do to help us, cultivate, that sense of self awareness? That will help us be more effective everyday. What's funny is the answer to that sounds a little counter intuitive. And that is sometimes you need to step out of self and ask the people that that know, you the best because all of us. Clearly, we don't know what we don't know. And we have to have the humility in the vulnerability to admit that we have blind spots. So sometimes asking people that know us the best and people that are in our inner circle that we know love us and want to empower us. They want to see us happy. They want to see a successful. We trust them. You know, they hold us accountable, which is incredibly important and create a fertile environment and a safe environment where they feel comfortable voicing some of these things. Here's a perfect example. First of all if you walk out to any person on the street and ask them are they self aware? They're going to say that they are. I've never seen a human being that says that they're not. But clearly you and I have met people that aren't so they're not even a. Rare that they're not aware. So if I were to say, for example, if you were to ask me if I'm good active listener, and I say, yes, Todd. I'm a great active listener. But then you were to go ask the people closest to me, my family, my close friends, my close colleagues, and they all say, no, Allan is not a good active listener will then the reality is that I'm not so I can have an inaccurate sense of self. So it's really important to kind of get that feedback. And again, I'm not just walking up to a stranger on the street and asking them their opinion of me, I'm asking people that I've really developed solid relationships in connections with to see if my sense of self matches their evaluation, and when those two things are in alignment, then I believe you've achieved a pretty decent sense of self awareness. But it's also important to know that this is an ongoing process. You don't ever arrive and say, you know, put my flag in the ground IM, self aware. This is something that has to be done every single day of your life. So we're going to cost. Gently be tweaking ebbing and flowing through different heights and lows of of self awareness, and that's a difficult thing. Right. Because requires vulnerability requires some degree of transparency, I think allowing people in your life and allow it requires a season of that. It's not just hey once you can hang out with me for the afternoon. I'm going to ask you what you think about me. It's like, no, I'm giving you permission to to be in my life to see what's going on and to see the patterns so that I'm able to have that kind of intimate connection. So you can call out things. That's that's a difficult thing. Especially in today's world where we all feel like we have to position ourselves certain way. It's hard to do it's incredibly difficult. But but I think that needs to be embraced. And we don't need to run from it. And in full transparency, I was going through a divorce few years ago and my ex and I are incredibly amicable. Now, we make great co parents. So certainly had the the happy ending if there ever is such a thing with divorce, but we. I started going to some couples therapy. And after the couple's portion was done, I continued to go on my own, and I really give my therapist full credit for kind of unlocking. You know, the the self-awareness chest for me to start going down that path. She was really the conduit that let me know that I wasn't near as aware as I thought that I was in. Then that's what led me to asking those that are closest to me and found that. Yeah. I was not very accurate in my sense of self. So it was it was neat. Having a trained professional who was an unbiased third party because she could give it to me straight. She could say, no, you're you know, these things don't line up mean. Because a lot of these things work were black and white between what I was believing in. What reality was. So I give her full credit for bringing that to my attention. And yes, it was incredibly challenging work, you know, gut wrenching and painful at times, but it is V best thing that I have ever done. You know, it's funny. You give talks to companies in events like I do. And one of the best forms of sort of the hot poker in my side when it comes to self aware, and this is when I give a talk, and I always have to give a talk with one finger pointed back in my own chest. Right. Like oh. You're not. You're not doing that. So well, are you raise like a constant reminder that like I talk about being curious and asking questions. Yeah. You've been spending a lot of time on your phone lately. Haven't you instead? Instead of observing the. Yeah, you know, so I think we can certainly like you said we can, cultivate, that within ourselves to some degree, but we need prompts and the prompt has to come from other people Ray or from some external force, which which I love. All right. Let's talk about the importance of doing one thing. Well, that's that was the section that really captured my attention in the opening chapter. And what does it mean to focus on during one thing? Well. If we do, and I'll I'll use the basketball analogy again, if you look at the NBA, you've got probably twelve to fifteen players, your LeBron James Russell, Westbrook, your Kevin Durant. Those guys can do a little bit of everything. I mean, they're incredibly talented. They've worked really hard that you know, they're the perfect storm. But outside of the top twelve to fifteen players every single player in the NBA is a role player in every single in the player in the NBA is a specialist. They have one skill and occasionally a secondary skill that they can perform at an elite unit for time of them like Kyle Korver or a JJ Rettig. They're dead eye sharpshooters other players. They're lockdown defenders of their great rebounders. But they found the one thing that in the game that they can do better than everybody else. And they doubled down on that. And they put all of their time and energy and focus into making that one skill even more world class as opposed to trying to raise up all of these mediocre areas and try and kind of be a well round. Ended player which I think is completely overrated, and that directly applies to those in the creative space to those in any type of business atmosphere, you need to find the one thing that you have the potential to be the best that you're capable of at that thing and really focus on that. And it doesn't mean to the detriment of everything else. It just means that you don't divide your time and try to spend all of this time making on applicable weaknesses mediocre at best. You put all of your time and energy into the one thing that can make you really unique and special because that's what's going to make you most valuable. I love so much. I think for people in the creative services industry, especially those who are listening or entrepreneurs right who trying to figure out what what does our business. Do if you tried to be everything to everybody you're going to be nothing to anyone. So you have to I don't think that's even grammatically correct there. It is. But it makes sense. So I love that. And it really has me thinking, it's really really challenged me. When I read that concept to really think about what is my superpower. You know, what is the one thing? I do that other people can't do in. How can I become the person that does that thing in becomes indispensable in that way? I really love that concept. And I think everybody listening can think about that. Right. It's something that everyone should consider. What is the thing? I do that. Nobody around me can do. What would you say? That is for Hallenstein. What is your superpower? I would say it's emotional intelligence in that may sound rather broad. You know, I'm I'm not a high academic guy. I'm not a high Q guy. Now, I'm not a dummy by any means. But, but my superpower, I believe is my Billy to to build trust and connection with other human beings. And that was one of the reasons that I got into the basketball space as a coach basketball was merely the platform or the vehicle. My main job was to connect with players and build that trust that report. In that connection. So zen. I could actually have them improve their performance through strength and conditioning, and fitness, and and I was taught at a very early age by a really wise mentor that you have to connect I and you coach second that if I could get through to somebody's heart. I then getting through to their head and their body would be the easy part. But you can't do it the other way around, and I'd like to believe that whether I'm giving a keynote or leading a workshop my ability to connect and establish that trust early is what keeps them listening and entertaining the stuff that I'm going to be sharing with them. So I would like to believe that my emotional intelligence is my my superpower love that. That's great, you know, spending. My dad is basketball coach to the statesman coaching for forty years. And he he said his philosophy is he always wants to be the coach nobody wants to let down, and I think that's what you're describing. Right. I mean, you can yell and you can rant and you can to some degree motivate people that way, but if you become the coach that everybody loves so much that they don't wanna let. Down that they're going to leave it all on the court because they don't want to see your disappointed is when they come to the sideline then you've got something really special. And I think that's you know, that applies to leadership in organizations to Ray, you can leave by commander control or you can say I am going to be the kind of leader who inspires you to such an extent. And you see me I've got skin in the game right there with you to the extent that you don't want to let me down. And so I'm gonna inspire your best performance. Absolutely. You said that perfectly. So it's clear that whether you're father may not have used those exact same words, but but he leads what the motion intelligence, and he creates that connection, which means and I've seen this time and time again, not certainly not implying anything about your father. But he could have an average understanding of the Xs and os of strategy of different sets, and schemes and yet his teams will always over and over achieve based on that connection because when you get people that don't wanna let the leader down or don't want to let their teammate down. And then they're going to do some some pretty incredible things and the same thing with those in the corporate world, and it's not even just that. What you find people that take pride in filling somebody else's bucket? And you know, I wanna lend a hand out, and I wanna porn to you and help you that I care just as much about you as I care about myself within the confines of this organization, then you've created a really really magical and special culture, and it, and it all starts with that. I love that. We've talking to Allenstein junior. He's the author of raise your game high-performance secrets from the best of the best Allen. What's the best place for people to find you? If they're looking for you if they're interested in the book, they can go to raise your game, book dot com. And if they want to see anything else on me, they can just go to Allenstein junior dot com. That's great. Well, thanks so much for taking the time to be with us today. No, my pleasure. I appreciate you. Look in many things to Allenstein junior string insights from his book. Res your game. 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So they know we sent you all the parts your car wherever need rock auto dot com. Make love the poll question, by the way, you can watch if you'd like audience channel two thirty nine you'll find that on direct TV and the NBC sports network. Yes. Mclovin. It's who's the more pressure. The Rams are the patriots. And it's been consistently almost sixty percent. The Rams, and I'm not sure why. I would think it would. Well, I don't know unless you feel like the the Rams feel like are we going to get a chance again to come here. But you got a young coach young quarterback. You got a young wide receiver. You got two young running back. You know, Dan Marino thought that too that. Hey, I'm gonna come back here. Couple of times. And yes for it's got something extra to prove. Because so many people think that they don't even deserve to be here that they lucked into getting into the Super Bowl. But if they can knock out the patriots and prove that the best team in the NFL. All right, mclovin. Also, what are the patriots have to add to their legacy? What is Tom Brady? Bill Belichick have to add if they're already number one two or three well you get greedy. Now. It's like, you know, when you win something. And then you go I I want to win again, you know, the way Brady acted after they beat Kansas City. You would thought that was his first trip to the Super Bowl. So you never get tired of that. And I think with Brady I mean Radi realizes this is finite at. Some point it all ends. And then you get no more opportunities to do this. He's enjoying the moment. I don't know. How Bella check enjoys a moment. But I'm going to guess he enjoys a moment might go. Yeah. This is great. And that might be exciting for him. But you know, as far as you know, Brady goes Brady's excited because he knows he's adding to a legacy that nobody's ever going to get to. And I think that's exciting for him. I don't think Bella check goes. But this is going to make my legacy even better. Yeah. Mclovin. It's a lot like Bob kosten sports Emmys against right. Okay. Not to shop. That's sean. Go ahead. You're the Rams. I mean, you know, you one view. Hey is I do more stand up? No. How do I get dragged into this awkward moment? Reggie Miller hall of Famer Turner sports NBA analysts reg on the call with Kevin Harlan is Thursday night at ten thirty eastern on TNT, the seventy Sixers at the warriors and reg joins us. Now, kind of interesting last twenty four hours. They're reg what do you make of all of this? Anthony Davis stuff. Well, didn't we kinda see the writing on the wall? You know, as soon as he had signed with club, sports and Rich Paul I think we all knew, you know, we probably couldn't say publicly, but we knew that his avenue Davis time in Orleans was gonna be limited and now hinted at this though last week, and you said, you know, there's I'm hearing something there, you know. But we didn't know to what degree, but it felt like you thought that something there was, you know, impending doom here for the pelicans with Anthony Davis has been a top ten days for New Orleans really has between the no. And and then you have arguably the best player in franchise history. Wanting out if you're a resident of New Orleans is very difficult. But now I'm going to wear two hats here for eighteen years. And a small market it saddens me because power smaller markets ever going to compete with the big boys. So I'm sad at that aspect. But then I put my media had on and what people want to know most of the time. Did he win a championship? Did he compete at the highest level? And if every Davis wants to compete for a championship, it's not gonna be Norrland. He's gonna have to Boston LA. So Golden State. That's just what it is the media and fans alike. It's nice that I played eighteen years in one organization people say that all the time. But people also say, but he never wanted championship. And I think that's what these guys are starting to understand as much as we wanna pile on on K D leaving. Okay, see being up three one against the defending champs. And then losing. And then the very next season, you know, jumping on a plane and heading. To San Francisco. He's won back to back champion championships and been finals MVP twice. So his legacy. I think that's what he wants to build. So I don't wanna hear about a word the loyalty and sports. I get it. I understand it hurts me. Trust me. It does sicken me because there's no way these smaller markets can't compete. But you guys can't flip it and say well did he ever win and championship while he wants to win and compete for a championship? And I think that's what we're saying. Okay. What's the Lakers game plan? What would your game plan b if your Magic Johnson? I would call Rich Paul and say how can this happen? I would call New Orleans. What do you want? We'll give you everyone other than LeBron James. Well, throw in rob Pelinka, if you want to throw in Laker girls, if you want Willie is it going to take for us to get Anthony Davis. And if I'm. Affidavits in Rich Paul do you want Boston in play here because Boston's not play until the off season how badly do you wanna get away or do you really wanna see over think about this? We're gonna have Kevin Durant Steph curry, LeBron James Russell Westbrook. Paul George all in the Western Conference. Every new Davis goes they're thinking about it. Think about all the stars that are out west. There is no TI anymore, which is another thing that gets on my nerves the Eastern Conference is just decimated. But in mad for ratings reg the rating through down and you'll have. Yes. So the west coast games. And and I said at the beginning of the year, they should start the Laker games. Earlier. Just because you want to bring in the east coast audience, and we've seen you know, there's no tune in must see factor. East coast basketball. Again. It's I get it. I understand it eighty and I can't fault that you know, I filed on with Kevin Durant. When he first made the move. I thought it was a sucker move. But I understand it. And I understand why he did it. And he's he's right. I mean, I I don't think they would've ever wanna championship with him and Westbrook in. Okay. See so he he he made a business decision. And it is a business people. And he is one of those players that are he he's a legacy player. We're gonna when we think of Kevin Durant one of the game when his career done. He's a legacy player. Lebron a legacy player and right now his late. He is building a heck of a resume, and I get it. But it feels like this is all the bronze. So LeBron in his agent his agent represents Anthony Davis. So LeBron is sort of, you know, the puppeteer, you know, he's he's the one that's going. Okay. I think we're gonna get rid of Luke Walton. I don't have any loyalty to any of these young kids. I wanna get an Anthony Davis in here because Anthony can help me win at least one more title my window of opportunity. I probably got four more years here to win maybe one or two more titles. It feels like that's what's going on behind the scenes. What do you make of that? I will I will say the Braun and Anthony Davis alone will not win a championship. They will need a third person. Now, if you get Ambani Davis, and then you're able to get like Klay Thompson shooter. Now, you're in the discussion, but to get Davis you're going to have to give give away everyone after that. It depends on the supporting players after that. And let's get Anthony Davis though. Reg, I can get that third person. Right. You you can you can. But let let me say this. What is going on? Now is going to put so much pressure on my mentor when I was at UCLA in Magic Johnson because this past offseason, Paul George uneven wanna take a meeting or a call from the hall of Famer this is a lot of I didn't say the Lakers were on the clock this season. I said the Lakers are really on the clock. This coming summer. They got the big fish in the Bronx. But how can now now magic how can you attract Colli clay Buki cousins? Now, Anthony Davis. How are you going to be able to get these free agents because your Magic Johnson you have that megawatt smile, you have the championships. Can you bring these guys in to play with LeBron and possibly Eric Davis? But Anthony Davis allowed in the Ron James or not gonna win a championship. They need that third player. It's not gonna Reggie Miller. The hall of Famer he's with Kevin Hart. Thursday night. Ten thirty eastern on TNT. Seventy Sixers at the warriors in the boogie. Cousins experiment is were quite nicely for Golden State doesn't doesn't seem fair. But is there any is there? Anything to keep an eye on any issues with his team as we breeze through to the playoffs. Well, success breeds a lot of things and that is going to be once boogie cousins gets his his game legs right now. He's four or five games into this coming back from achilles surgery. He doesn't have his game legs and they're playing them anywhere between eighteen to twenty four minutes, depending on foul trouble and so forth. But once he gets in shape Steve Kerr, and then like to use that small death lineup as they call it with Draymond green at five and a lot of times Kvant loony who started all the way up until boogie cousins came back. They liked to play Kvant looney those closing minutes because they feel he's better defensively. How will DeMarcus handle that being on the bench in closing moments? When he's an all star. And he's looking let's face it to get paid next season. Will he be able to accept that role? From all indications from what I hear coming out of warrior's camp, he is all on board. And it looks. Like that. And I agree with you. It's not fair. But it's how the system is set up. I wanna see how he handles not being on the bench come into April starting into the playoffs when they go to that small lineup, and he is not on the floor. Yeah. That's that's a good take, by the way shack. I think is stopping by on Thursday. Do you think shack has any football ability whatsoever? And what term depends often like defense like like could he heck of an offense of Lyman? Right. Could I could I throw him the ball? What you do you think? He's could he could he throw a football. I'm sure you get throw a football perfect spiral. Probably not. I'd be more interested. If you could catch a football. He has big myths. So well, we're gonna find out have like a real quarterback there to see if he can actually catch some balls. You can catch a round ball. I know that I'm the quarterback reg, I'm going to bring some heat on Thursday to shack. I can't wait to see this good. Paulie in front of them. See if he could stop them put Paul. Oh my God. He you'll want to trust me. Well, no, you always wanna take on somebody. Always you do not. If you've never been around shack like you. He looks big. I mean, he really looks big. But when he's in person, it's like nothing almost looks like the you created this, you know, in a green screen or three D or something like Spielberg created. This is what it feels like when you're around shock like. And what's funny gentleman as big as Theodore is describing how big shock is the year that y'all mean made the hall of fame, and he has shocked to you know, walk him in yell. Follow shack that those are the two biggest human beings on the planet as we speak and as big a shock every time. I check I mean, I'm like I can't believe I had to set screens on those. Times. How did the my hundred forty Brad town way wrenching? I have no video. We look for video view setting a screen on shack. And we couldn't find any. I dreams onto the new now you might have to go back to skinny shock when he was in Orlando with Vinny because when I had to do it in the finals in two thousand I went to Larry burdens, look unless you come out of retirement. I sit and screens on that three hundred and ninety five pound man, and Rick is not going to the basketball are you on the Rams bandwagon. Are you like a photo Rams fan on Super Bowl Sunday -solutely not here? And I'm gonna tell you why number one my one eighteen growing up was the LA raiders can stay ler Lester Hayes, so I'm number one raiders fan for obviously we never rooted for the Rams and my one b team eighteen years in Indiana Peyton Manning. And the Indianapolis Colts who always went head to head with Tom Brady and New England. So I could care less about these two teams. I don't care who wins. I'm watching the Super Bowl for the commercials. Okay. I could care less who wins if the raiders. And if it's not the cold, I could care less. All right. Thursday night care less. Let me get that. Right. I could not care less people always make that mistakes because if I could care less that means you could you care a little bit. But I wouldn't. I couldn't. Last Thursday night. Ten thirty eastern on TNT the seventy Sixers at the warriors. Good luck selling that. That's a that's a good game. Yeah. But Jimmy Butler shell. Hopefully, he'll be back, hopefully, you, but you still Embiid, right? Gotta love made. And boo. It'd be great. Maybe Ben Simmons attempts of three. Oh, I will die. If he if he ever makes the three on air. I'm telling you, I'm dropping my headsets. And I'm giving him a hug they'd be makes it three door nine game. I'm stopping the broadcast. I'm while. I'm doing them. Reg, I said attempt to three I didn't say no who cares about him. If he makes us three. I'm a Cup a couple years ago. I said to brook Lopez would you shoot a three four me in the all star game. And he did at the very end. And now look at him. He's made at least one three and I think thirty consecutive games. I changed a man's life. Reggie I did it and I can do it with Ben Simmons at right now. You're putting it into the universe for Vince Simmons. I like it the doors like it, and I helped him hook up with a Jenner which that wasn't as hard. That's him trying to make it three. But I can tell me you're you're the mess maker to the stars right now. You look those two you know, what I gotta rap is it time to go to commercial break. I'd love to get in that with your reg. But I can't say travels, and I'll talk to you. Thank you. Or I love you danettes great energy in that building was fans there. You guys are awesome. That's Reggie Miller. Playmaker. Michael urban right after this. If you could live your most prosperous life. 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Now's the time to score big with metro switch and get on a big network for way, less. The playmaker. Michael urban is in the building. He's always fun. We were taking bets during the live look in as to what Mike would be wearing because he always shows up. He looks good. He looks clean every time. And I wasn't quite sure I thought maybe suit, maybe something pinstripe, but Mike came in as he shouted to everybody. This is for Sachi. And I said, Mike, nobody cares that it's side shoe, but he looks he looks great as he always does get ready for an electric atmosphere. Crowd favourite three time winner. Phil Mickelson at the waste management. Phoenix open. You can hit the music. Coverage begins Thursday gulp channel continue Saturday at three eastern. Our next guest known for his quiet demeanor at the university of Miami. And the Dallas Cowboys, although he didn't say much. He led his play. Do the talking in a supporting role to stars? Like, Steve Walsh and Bennie blades on the nineteen eighty-seven national championship team in the NFL. He was commonly known as the third triplet. Troy Aikman one said he was his second favourite target behind. Jay novacek. Please. Welcome. Mike look in clone lane. Look good, man. It's always you look like, you're shaft. That's a good one. That's that's a compliment. Like that is a compliment to be shaft, cool mother, brother. Yeah. But like, the the the the original one was Richard Roundtree? Yes. Shaft right on. And then you watch can you dig it, then semi oil play him in a movie, I think, yeah. I know when I saw Sam when he played the move. I was like got my part. Got my part. I'm supposed to do that movie, man. How many movies have you been? I think about three Dan it's him more than me. Don't even try did. I did. Mike I've been in seventeen movies. I've not been seventeen volley. Yes. What did you think? To say that he paulie those your seventeen seventeen. I don't think your work you with here in come on, man. I bet so you were in longest show we were both in longest yard. And we did what's the one Jack and Jill Jack and Jill NAT one we did jogging jail. And then there was this other movie idea, and I don't actually the two more acts one talk about. But but other one's pretty good. You don't know what it is? No. I noticed you were stolen when he got good. And you're trying to go. Yes. Boy did ring up Michael listed in Jerry Maguire as well. Well, I think I I didn't really go in being in the movie just kinda us some highlights of mine, and they didn't send any checks, okay? Count. My wife says there's no money came in. And she doesn't count that as work. But didn't the cardinals play the Cowboys with rod Tidwell? Was that the game? They should. Yes. They showed the cowboy highlights. But then, but then so. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And so they put us in there. But again, I Jerry must have got that money. Well, how good you think he was wide receiver? Ooh. Yeah. What do you mean? How good was. He looked like he had tell installing the peace. Yeah. Did he did? He was. All right. He was it was that was good movie. Now, I I love the movie I love the movie, but you know, you could tell he was acting wide receiver. Why receiver is it takes something to play the position? You know, what I mean, and it has to be grafted in your spirit because we're using different people when we talk about Antonio Brown, and these guys out here, you got understand we're the most independent dependent person in the world. We're out by ourselves. But we can't do anything without someone else. Independent dependent with brings conflict within your spirit. So people call us divas and all of that. But really, we're just complex people. Underlining you guys, they're fun. Have given you the truth is, you know, what I'm saying? Oh, listen Coplex people is what it is is just selene Dion. No, you have that on is is. I had but love selene. I love of course, you do people. Expect me, you know, I just like love Sam Smith that's kind of music I listened to. I think because I'm so big and black and hard. They think I listened to all the hard stuff. But you don't listen to rap. I do my son. My son wraps. His name is Tut Tarantino. Wait, what my son, right? He is his name. He he wraps on the terror Tino. His real name is Elijah urban. Okay. This is us where if you go on I chose listen to him. He raps about some little hardest world, and I say to civil you crew appeal twenty two hundred square foot. Own. Does this come from? Your son is using your childhood Rabah. I worked hard you out of this. And you your right that Jewish what it's crooked. Oh, my mind, man. I'm telling you if you listen you can't rap about a private education. I mean, I'm sorry. The school whole rise. Whole rise. All you you up in a family of seventeen kids of two bedrooms. Right, right. He robbed him about my thing. Right. That's what that's what troops out in the guy just tells me and Mike young guys young kids express themselves. You just got to let them go through this. And everything I'm like, well, what does it mean? Reflection on my parents, what's mom think about this. Well for a long time. He wouldn't let mom hear his music. You know, I don't wanna hear dad don't let it here in. I couldn't hear for a while. And then I finally heard him because he started getting out on. I chose got a couple of albums out tonight. I like man, I mean, you sat next to me every Sunday in church any of that. It's funny stuff man when you hear now, I I like route I like this. When did when did you decide because I do feel there's an entertainer in every athlete to a certain degree you like to perform you like to perform in front of people. But there had to be a moment. I don't know what you were like in high school. But when you got to the U there is an entertainer that was in there. And I don't know if you knew it was there. I I got a lot of people now because I grew up, you know, like, I said with a big family and around people and everything. So so yeah. And I love laughter. Like you guys. Just the greatest thing in the world is I don't care what crosses everything we can have fun. We go out we joke and since I made a lot of dumb decisions and stuff like that. I like to laugh at me too. And people laugh with you if you will out at you. So I do enjoy that aspect of it and just give in truth out. And in the most funny thing, I think is always in the everyday thing. The bible says in those things that are calming all men. We all have those things and you could stay in. I think find funny things all day. Yeah. But you're catching a first down. And granted you would get a four yard pass. Right. And you made it seem like you got an eighty yard because this was right. It can take the journey from Goldline. Goldline line is a long journey. In between it in order to get that through that long journey. I thought when I was younger if I just had a few small celebrations along the way. I don't have to wait till I get to celebrate. That's too long of a German true. But if I just make a small celebration here some all celebration here small celebration, the big celebration. So the first downs became the small celebration. And if you just keep getting a small celebrations your end up in the big one, that's always. So I started doing the celebration on the first. Hey, we got you. They gave him more celebration. Who is celebrating? Oh my God. What do you mean? Besides me. Yeah. Dionne deal. L was good. We used to come up with stuff. I mean, we we wait. Would you practice? It. We had so much a man I'm thinking about this. What do you think about thinking about thinking about doing this just just because we had a good rate team? And so we have fun with. We took it to the next level. We already knew we were going to win the game. But did you let's come up with some stuff in the Super Bowl? Okay. We know we're going to win this drive the price for the MVP. Nobody signs the deal with Disney World, nobody signed the deal. They've been maybe they pay people twenty five fifty thousand dollars. Nobody sells for less than one hundred fifty. So if nobody signed detroi- agree to show, I wouldn't participating. These guys and don't come here with that stuff. The MVP. Actually im-. It didn't Troy one. Yes. That was the first one. Okay. Then when we got to about the third when we figured that. We should we should kind of collude on this deal. So we colluded. Drive up the price was the funnels funds as man fund as I try to tell these guys. Now enjoy this moment, you know, we get to reminisce on our history. You're writing your history makes you write will. So you remain this well later on because I promise you you're going to want to the Cowboys have a successful season. You got in the playoffs. You wanna division? I have to say that's a successful season. It didn't it didn't get to where they wanted to be. And I think if they didn't wait so long to make decision are they think that they can go in with a bunch of number twos. And threes wide receivers before I urge them to go get Amari Cooper that raised the level up. You know what? I mean, they did you tell Jerry to get Amari Cooper. You don't you? Don't think he listens to me. I'm just asking. I'm listening to you. I wanna know he's listening Jerry that team. It was one hundred fifty million dollars after I gave those three Super Bowls where billion dollar you should listen. So you gave him when I yes, I did. Oh, yes. I will. You mean, you think he would have gotten those SuperBowl was not there. Absolutely. I people pleaded people rings a lot of guys even play on them. Hey them rings to. Feel and boomer sites. And I you guys going into the game. And they were like, well, we don't have tickets the game was in your essay, you need tickets say what do you mean man games in Dallas? I'm pulling up in my belly open the Dame. Hey, nobody saying word. Mike will you let me go get year. We'll be. Right back with your plan to leave. Right back was Colby's Lee. Correct. In what he was saying that the front office is the one who decides who gets the football thrown to them. It's impossible. It's flat out and possible that the front office can make a decision. Well, okay. But they could because Jerry could say to Jason I wanna I wanna make sure Mark Cooper gets the ball. I wanna prove that. We got a great deal. When we traded a first round pick for Amari Cooper. I don't think that's farfetched to say that Mike us fits, okay? That's far fish. I don't jokes. You know? Jerry who's involved in the play calling the has to say that to Jason then we need Jay. Get a mar kupuna ball or coupe is a bad. Boy, his Colby's -ly good enough to be a Julian Ataman type. Number two head. You hit the nail on the head Colby's wants to be Julian element. But he's not in Julian Elman like office Tom Brady played game inside out. So he's going to play with gronk Julian element and the guys on outside. We'll get the you later. Cowboys play the game outside hand that's wanted to why receivers outside and if they get double team now, you're one on one inside worth wrote a ball inside. These has the understand that that doesn't come from Jerry from Jerry Jones up stales sales. That's that's the the philosophy of the often. Okay. I got a couple of questions for him. I don't know if you'll think they're good legitimate questions. Would you rather have Julian Edelman career? Calvin johnson's. Julianne element or Calvin Johnson. I in the Super Bowl rings. But okay. I I said Jillian Etem to. Yes. I'm in the Super Bowl ring. Right. You know, alternate. And I would take your career over Calvin Johnson's. Of course. Yeah. I just wanted to let you bowl ring. Well, what is does reason I met a guy day, and he said man might man, you know, he he's talking about random more bad. Boy, I'd say he said, yeah, I ran most of a ring he said he'd say, yes. So so you want to ring them. I said, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. I'm s brother is what do you mean? Your brother? I want floral. I wonder one level or level. College and Brooke are you ready than ran on me? Brother. Are you? Are you better than Randy moss? I'm a s brother that s tell you that. I got rings oh levels. But then that means that Giuliano men is better than Randy moss because he has rings. Yeah. I gotta outta ring. That's what I say. That's what I'd say the game of football game football. But there's a purpose to it all of my catches in rings. Better career gronk or Jason Witten. Rock rings wrung out of Greg. Wrong now vote they're both first ballot hall of famers. Okay. You'll be first ballot hall of fame. What happens on Sunday that's going to be a good game. Because now this team here. The Rams have everything they need to be the patriots. And what I love about this too. I love the stories of football. Like look at it. You got the golden coach the goat. Coach in go quarterback going up against the young guys. He hung Kai's argument. You've had with mom and when dad shut up, you don't know nothing. Now, the young guys in awe, we know something. Now, we're in the Super Bowl. So this this is a great thing. There's a great opportunity for for Sean McVeigh in Jared Goff to strike. It flip a young people did know anything and beat the old head. But it's going to be tough. They got all they got all the tools they need, but just executing them. Sometimes it's a different thing. 'cause Tom Brady and Belet shake. They just execute. They just execute. Maybe boring may not be nice may not be fancy nothing that works for you Instagram and your Twitter, but they just went football game. The ease. The straight way. They just oh is it so hard to be I want I want the Rams to win. But it's hard to go against those patriots man is is Brady better than Troy. Brady's degrade is of all time. All right barn on territorial with Troy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no offense. But now Brady's the greatest of all time. But I'm okay. I I will still take Troy over everybody period. I would take trove everybody. So if we had a draft right now, and you can have Brady or see ROY or anyone else to ROY. Okay. Brady's great for his system. Brady can't play in the I don't think Brady play like in choice system. I think Troy playing Brady system 'cause Troy has an arm to throw outside strong on though bang as DP deep outs. He has a great on 'em for that. And he can still throw the inside things Brady in his system. If you give me you say take any quarterback now in the league. And were we don't know what offense were putting them in. I'm still I will take Rogers. I forget Rogers over Tom Brady. I'll take a few people Tom Brady. But if you say take them, and we're going to put him in their system, and I'm. Tom Brady one one drive game on the line. You can have Troy, oh, you can have Tom and what offense. There near often either one of them, I'm winning with the one. I'm I'm winning with Troy I'm winning. I I've been in that one drive game one ally. Let's go get these rings. We went and got those rings, you know. And and I watched Tom Brady when Dr game on the line. We just watched that. In the championship game. And he went and got him. You know, it's it's incredible. Man. We we we are so blessed to say we live in this time. You know, that we live in the I think about the people that watch Lombardi we actually got a chance to watch somebody and watch them coach. And and you know, I hope they could appreciate it. Like, I hope we get a chance to appreciate a ballot. Check and what he's done seriously, Dan, it is in credible. I know in this day when they give it all them brothers all money guaranteed. Now do Jimmy Johnson controls with fear. But like, you know, you got thirty four to fifty million dollars t they can't cut you. Now, you got to find other ways to manage and mitigate through issues and he's been doing he's just during the live look, and we want to try to imitate your first down celebration. Okay. Oh, yeah. And you'll be the judge. Yeah. Okay. We'll take. Michael irvin. You can say, yeah. You can see him on the NFL network Super Bowl Sunday. Hold on. You can see my Super Bowls. Hold on my okay. See him on Super Bowl Sunday. It's a special eight and a half hour addition. It's only gonna feel like eight not eight and a half. NFL game day morning starting at nine AM eastern on the NFL network. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick show. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. 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So entertain we did the Michael Irvin impersonation when he was at the U when he created this first down celebration. It didn't matter. How far the past was he was going to get his money's worth. And so the danettes they did their best. And then Mike Shoji how we've done and we left it to the professionals there. But it always fun to have him. He wears me out. Like, I it's it's good that we have him at the end of the show because if I had him in the first hour, I don't know if I'd make it through the next to this day in sports history. Pauling I don't have this history. Michael probably had a first hour he celebrated like that. Why don't why don't you have anything computer issues? Also. No, no, that's true. You do freeze proceed you have this team sports history. Jones sponsored item here for. Yes. Mclovin. Tuesday, January twenty second. Okay. Last Castro was elected a winter league baseball game that was last Tuesday on this ballpark of. Okay. January sort of so should be called sort of this dance history last week. Yes, paulie? This is pretty interesting nineteen thirty six the first class of the major league baseball fame was announced and in nineteen sixty three the first class of the NFL hall of fame was announced both on this date way, different years. Okay. Who can anyone named the first class of the major league baseball hall of fame? Can you get three so babe was in there? Nineteen thirty six first class five people. Lou gehrig. Nope. It's tough. Jimmy foxx. I Cobb take up. Jimmy FOX's he's done on that list. Walter Johnson Christie medicine Honus Wagner. Okay. Pretty good list. That kind of thing they didn't get one hundred percent of the vote. Dan marino. Tomorrow saquon Barkley joins us tomorrow. Cam Jordan of the saints joins us tomorrow to Shawn Watson will join us tomorrow. 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"He's good to go, and he's put in a tremendous amount of work for media. be able to confidently say that I think when you search the silver linings with this pandemic and the way things have shaved up. It would be hard pressed for me to find something more obvious than this. It's enabled Ben to reclaim his health, but I think inching along. From maybe a month ago that we spoke That is not true. He's good to go, and we look forward to to to to watching him. Mob with what I'm told is actively a hundred percent help. I love his accent that seventy sixers coach Brett Brown say Ben Simmons back is effectively one hundred percent for some tapes layoff has kept hopes alive because normal circumstances they wouldn't have had their stars healthy in time for the start of the playoffs. Simmons being one of them. NBA Champion. Kendrick Perkins back here with Perk. We will get to you in just a second Stephen, Kelly this can simmons and embiid lead the sixers to a title. I think it's possible because of the Times that we're living in again. If the question marks across the board as to how ready other people are then I think it's something that they could potentially take advantage of. Do I think they will know? I've said that Tobias Harris. Live on national television and I believe in him. He's averaging nineteen this year. Ben Simmons is averaging sixteen, eight and seven or fifty eight percent shooting from the field. Field has only attempted six three pointers this year he's made to. That's thirty three percent, but in the end what that lends us that lends us or leads us to talk about is the fact that Ben Simmons at the only question mark he might be a question mark because of his health, and because of that suspect jump shot, but Brown is a question more because of his coaching ability and I like him as a person. But at the same time, when you invest a kind of money that you're investing in Ben, Simmons Joel Embiid that you've already given the by Harris. Jimmy Butler walks out the door JJ. Radic has the league or you guys don't want to train your luxury tax all in this stuff. The bottom line is we still look Philadelphia Seventy sixers. They still underachieve. You still expect better from them. You didn't expect Toronto to be better than them once once Kawai Linnet left. You expected it to be about Milwaukee Philadelphia and Boston. You certainly didn't expect to Miami to be. Be better than them, but that basically is right there right now so for me. It's about what Brett Brown can pull out of these guys appeal out of these guys. They have the potential to go on a run, but it would be complemented by other teams, not stepping up to the plate like we had anticipated they would do because the coronavirus pandemic really stalled their momentum. We have to remember that the sixers. Sixers are like ten twenty four on the road during the season they will. They were horrible, horrible rotea completely different at home than they were on the road last time I checked. None of these Games are going to be at the Wells Fargo Center in downtown Philadelphia on the South side. This is going to be in Orlando. Florida that that is a road game. It might not be road in terms of hostile. Hostile combines going into somebody else's house, but it Damn Shaw Eight to Philadelphia fateful showing up at Wellsfargo to support you, and when the sixers have been away from Wells Fargo, they have been below mediocre, so I'm sorry. I'm not going to sit up there and definitively say that they can do anything. I would tell you. They got the talent to make a lot of noise. Let's see what they do with it. Well, we see this exactly the opposite Stephen I think. The sixers were always good sleeper pick, but particularly given these unusual circumstances there even better sleeper pick and I say that because teams like the Lakers where Lebron. Really had the chemistry clicking just right. They needed a lot of runway to get there right the sixers I see differently, you know yes. The integration of complimentary pieces are important, but really the engine of that team is they have to star almost superstar, players and embiid and Simmons. They're just more they have. Two guys were usually more talented than anyone on the other team. And when you restart, and it's not about. And there's not enough time for teams to get the chemistry just right who rely on six and seven different pieces to guys like that could very well take over now to your point about the road versus home I really think the reason. The sixers play that way is because envied without a real good plan from the organization has been basically self load managing. Managing. He's had to take take his foot off the pedal at times because he has various physical problems me back especially, and and on the road he takes foot off the gas, a little bit and I really think that's why. The sixers aren't the same team. Well a couple of things there number one yet. They're not at home at all, but they're. They're also not on the road at all either. There's neither home nor road here. All of the Games are going to be televised. Everyone's going to be watching and beat understands this, and in terms of load managing. He just had a long rest and the number one problem. The sixers have probably even more than the fact that Jimmy Butler isn't there anymore. Anymore, is that Al? Horford and Joel embiid in particular has not been a good parenting on the floor together as it turns out, Horford never played the four at Eddie. Level of ordering is basketball which blows my mind I kind of think of him as a four five right, but he's really doesn't do that as diverse as his skills are as as. He can take the floor if you need them to. We can shoot. He can defend the pain. He could play this back to the basket. He can do so many things. He's not comfortable at the forest, especially next to Joel Embiid, so the plan is to have two separate squads and being squad on the one hand and Horford. which will give embiid load management? In addition to all the rest? Because Horford squad is working, embiid can rest I think for all those reasons, but especially because of the level that the talent is pitched for Simmons and embiid. The sixers are an excellent sleeper. Pick in this very unusual season. Mates! You gotta be. Auto Damn Mind. If you think that the sixers are sleeper team before the season, everyone was picking the sixes to come out of the east. When you look at that roster, they have recently. They have one of the most. One of the best closes, or in the NBA we talk about Joel embiid generation of town one of one Ben Simmons stirred so here's my thing stephen a Max. If I have a problem if I get into it with six different people. A later. It's not the six different people that have a problem I have a problem so with that being said I. Don't Trust Brett. Brown right. You had Jimmy Butler last year. who had issues with Brett Brown? You answer bias hairs. Who came on your show on? Yeah, so last week talking about chemistry issues. You had Al Horford talking about chemistry issues earlier in the. The. Season couldn't find his way in and find his niche. You have when Ben Simmons is out Joel embiid stirred. He plays awesome. When so wills out Ben Simmons plays great so to me is Brett Brown because as a coach. When you talking about chemistry that goes to the coach then means that he's not putting those guys in position to be successful and I. I don't WanNa hear Oh ben Simmons cat threes, or he can't shoot okay. We'll have them space in the floor and when they help off of them dive into the basket. Having planned the dunker spot I play will raise on Rondo when guys used to help, offer him doppler. Put Him at the dunk spider and have him duck into the paint and get wide. Wide Open layups. You gotta put these guys in position to be successful so I'm not blaming to hairs, I'm not blaming. Joe will be I'm not blaming Ben. Simmons Al Horford. I'm blaming. Brett Brown he's not putting those guys in position in position to be successful, and when you talking about chemistry, majority of time that falls back on the coaching, and that's Brett Brown. While they. Last week to look at the players you have to look at the players Kendrick, because the players are going to be there with this particular coach now maybe next season comes, and he's not there although I think that this corona virus pandemic has brought him a reprieve, and as a result I think you'll see him return to coach next season because of everything that happened the stall play, but in the end when you've got Joel and beat in the midst of a five year one hundred and forty eight million dollar deal. You've got Ben Simmons. His five, one, hundred seventy million dollar deal doesn't kick until next season. Two buys Harrison's already at the start. Start of this five year one hundred and eighty million dollar deal you see all of these things all of these players that have been paid these who sixers have placed their faith in an hour. Horford is getting a hundred million as damp so so with all of those things being considered. You're right. You're going to have to look at the coach, but that is eventuality. That's not something that's going on right now right now. This is their coach. This is who they're stuck with it and they're going to have to find a way to overcome. My personal opinion is they should not have lost. Jj, redick night, and they make no mistake. They should've kept this. Jimmy Butler and JJ rettig but. That and nobody was talking about the coming out of the east. They were talking about possibly get to the conference finals against Milwaukee but nobody was talking about them coming out of the east the second that they lost. Work! Perk say. They can't be asleep or pick before the season. They weren't asleep or pick, but now they are because no one's picking them. That's the point a lot of people. Steven and I both were told the sixers coming out of the or getting to the conference finals before the season started. People aren't saying by the way it's still Stephen A. About the coach because you either got to figure out Horford them together, or you got to figure out the units separately. Guys like not having rettig Richard Lincoln shooting. He's not shooting. Well this you're thirty. Three percent prefers queer thirty six percent from three he can. He can maybe shoot it well enough. The coach got figure out the rotations, and these guys gotTA figure out how to play together. Makes just because they're sleeper pig now. They asleep a pig because they underachieve just because you underachieved, don't make you sleep a p. the boss still said Fulfill Adelphia to win the championship. They not asleep well. If you go down to Philadelphia right now I walked the streets of Philly and you ask seventy sixer fans are what are they championship of bus? All you least making it to the finals? They not they not walking around Phillies, saying man. We got a chance. We'll sleep a pig. No one is picking those. No, no, you got two guys two studs in. EMBIID EMBIID Simmons. They're not a sleeper they under. The Spore, which is why you're saying they're sleep right now, and no one believes in rightfully so, but that's not asleep. Way at all mix nowhere inhale. On win the things we. Number, two bucks number three clippers number four celtics number five five teams ahead of them. The the title. That we got up to. The one the one thing we gotta bring up about Ben Simmons Sue. Is this what Brett? Brown, Brett, Brown said before the season began that Ben. Simmons needed to be more of a threat from the perimeter and he wanted him to. At least take those shots to try. Keep defense is on. And clearly, that's not something that Ben. Simmons did so again that points us that brings us back to coach Brown, because you're supposed to get them to do these things and you haven't been able to do that, so I think that resonates. Purdy Raptors the nuggets. When Paul! Stephen at Yo to your point, Okay Ben Simmons then work on his jump side and he's not comfortable with taking how `bout putting them and bringing them up as the screener and having them roll to the basket and have the Joe L. Space. The floor with our Horford and Ben Simmons imposition to catch it in deep paint and pay seals on smaller defenders on the low blood to shoot that jump Hook that he shoots, so will he? No, I know. He cares to put them in a position. Maybe you should coach perk. I love you, but we gotta roll here. Guys got to leave it on. That note and beat have won ten playoff games together. Policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and this radio ad from state farm gets you coverage of this beloved ninety six. Either GonNa be! My. For more coverage, state, Farm Dot Com. Wrongfully convicted man who has the WNBA Myanmar fought for was finally released from prison yesterday. You see the moment right there. Jonathan Iron served twenty two years of a fifty year sentence after being convicted in one, thousand, nine, hundred and burglary and assault with a weapon, he walked free Wednesday. More was amongst those to greet him as he walked out. The four-time wnba champion, put her career on hold, missing two seasons to help him or family Ma- irons prison ministry in two. Two, thousand seven before her freshman year at uconn penitentiary visit here. She was on good. Morning America in that moment. I just really felt like I could. I could rest I mean I've been standing, and we've been standing for so long and it just it was an unplanned moment where I just felt relief in. Just it was kind of a worshipful moment, just dropping semi knees, and just being so thankful that we made it, and you know when I stepped away. To two springs ago, I just really wanted to shift my priorities to be able to be more available and present to show up for things that I felt. were mattering more than being a professional athlete, and so this is obviously one of the. Biggest and most direct results of that. Obviously you guys know. I went to uconn season ticket holder to men's and women's basketball and a followed my more for a long time. She gave up two years of her prime as the star. For this mission, it is absolutely unbelievable when we talk about the sacrifice into see this man walk free. It is such a remarkable moment in just kudos to her. What a special woman! In Role Model Stephen I'll start with you. How significant of an example this that we saw from Maya this ultimate sacrifice? First of all. You're absolutely right and everything that you said and it was the ultimate sacrifice. Could Right now twenty years into this new millennium. She she can she she she warmed consideration for athlete of the century for be quite honest with you. The sacrifices that she's been willing to take a considering the fact that she's a multiple champion on the collegiate level on the professional level and in Olympic competition. That's how phenomenal this she has been as a performer, but then to really put herself on display in terms of the kind of human being. The she is the level of compassion and sensitivity and intelligence of that she has exhibited along this route, and you just can't say enough about Jonathan Irons as an incredibly incredibly lucky man, and I say that taking into consideration that he was wrongly incarcerated for so many years. I only use the word luck because my God if my more had an inserted herself into the equation. Who knows what his situation would be? Would he have ever been released for crying out loud and so you know he is very very lucky to have heart have had to have received Hus- support the way that he has over the last several years and I'm so thankful and glad for him. That he ended up being released from prison, but it also at this moment tough to happen now. Is is is considerably apropos. Because of the Times that we're living in gotta remember that it's again George Floyd's murder. Incredibly tragic and we understand that, but the people that are out there protesting to this very day, they're not just protesting police officers. They are also protesting things that have been going on systemically for quite some time, particularly as it pertains the African Americans and the issue of mass incarceration. You're having people that are looking at presidential candidates because of that they're looking at former. They look their former presidential candidate over that is it's an issue that has really resonated and Assadi particularly in recent memory, and so when you take those things into consideration again you see something like this transpire is valid. That kind of complaints that people are are complaining about right now because there have been far too many African Americans that have been victimized. The utilized in terms of being a part of mass incarceration, and that issue needs to be addressed and I applaud her for doing what she did and I'm incredibly happy for him that he is a freeman. Yesterday we're talking about Colin Kaepernick and the fact, the Avenue Rene is making a TV series, and it's going to explore his youth right? Look, what makes capture, Nick. What's that story and I said? If you want someone like you know the the best storytellers of your time, and beyond to tell your story, then you don't do what's convenient. But you sacrifice on the altar of something larger than yourself. Start by the my more will wind up with the MVP of the finals or something like that way Bill Russell has had that award named after is GonNa be named after my more. There's GonNa. Be stuff named after I. Want to start with the kind of player. She is Stephen Her resume is hilarious. It's hilarious like there are so many accolades. It's absurd starting from the time she's in. Her anger of success. All American every year she's in school. Wouldn't award winner. Two time back to back back to back national champion. She's won multiple European and world championships including two gold medals. She'd like before you get to the pros where she's basically an all star every single year. She's the MVP the All Star game three times she goes to the final six times wins four and as a finals that. She can shoot. She could defend by what it's absurd. How great a player! She is first of all. It's one thing because we've talked a lot about social issues, and how oftentimes until the stores take a stand? It's not the same. My more is as great as they come absurdly great, and before the age of thirty she puts it all on. Hold says Nope, this is what I'm doing now and addresses, mass and cars incarceration Stephen a real. We are reacting because it's it's an. It's an emotive issue like this. Police brutality right that's that's what gets. People riled up because they see it, but in fact, a much larger issue is the industrial prison, complex and mass incarceration of people of Color of African Americans. That's actually a much larger issue, and she has taken that on, and then helped. Get this guy, his freedom, who was doing a fifty year bid already served twenty two for something. Something he didn't do no evidence. No DNA no nothing no witnesses for something he didn't do. She is as great as they come off the court. She has made an enormous on the court rather. She's made an enormous contribution off the court. Stephen I agree so far in this young century. If you're talking about the greatest athletes of the century, she's on a very short list. Molly is important to bring up because you, you highlight it and we all did the greatness of Eva. Do Rene yesterday? When she did the the documentary thirteen remember what that was about the thirteenth century about the Thirteenth Amendment, and what you have is a situation where slavery, the emancipation proclamation outlawed in the United States American eighteen, sixty three, but confirmed after Texas was the last eight to give in in eighteen in eighteen, sixty five remember that. Slavery was outlawed except basically for crowd for a criminal, because if you were criminal, essentially paraphrasing the if you're a criminal and you're incarcerated, you can then treat somebody as if they're a slave. That's essentially what the thirteenth man was about, and it showed through the decades. Seventies eighties and nineties. How folks out folks were locked up in you had from one hundred from hundreds of thousands of people in prison to over two point, three million people in prison around two thousand and fifteen. That's what thirteen is about on Netflix. I would encourage everybody to go in some back. If you are black. Stephen I saw, and I learned so much from that and I'll just say quickly Max. You and I have talked about the innocence project at length Stephen I. Know The work you do. What the Hugh I work with the endometriosis foundation of America with the boys and Girls Club and try to support my husband's school, but seeing this just goes to show, and I'm not a star that I'm not doing enough and I think things like this with my and seeing what she's. Do I hope it has a trickle down effect for all of us, and just more that we can do in the community and continue to move this forward. I am so happy for this gentleman that he's free, and he said that irons has said that he now wants to dedicate his life to this mission and getting more people out who wrongfully convicted so again that beautiful trickle down effect. I'm glad we got to discuss this story here on I take capital. One knows life doesn't alert you about your credit card. That's why we created. The capital one assistant that looks out for surprise credit card charges like over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud, then sends an alert to your phone and helps if you need to fix them another way, capital one is watching it for your money when you're not capital on what's in your wallet? SEE CAPITAL ONE DOT com for details. Are bubbler nothing series continues today with a look the Sacramento Kings they currently have the longest odds to make the playoffs, but I want to focus on Darren Fox Fox is the first kings player to average twenty points. Six assists per game, since is Ahah Thomas, did it and they twenty thirteen season lots of kings fans hopes rides on their young point guard Kendrick Perkins back here with a Stephen Egg. We'll start with you. Do Cared Fox. Is a player worth building around? Wow. That's a tricky question because my answer would be no, but not because I don't believe the brother can play. He's significant. He's he's special. He leaves them in both scoring and assist as a team I. Just don't think he can be the face of your franchise. That's going to lead you to a championship. You need a greater player now. I'm a huge fan of his You know. He was the number fifth overall pick year Lonzo ball came out one of. Of the biggest arguments as Magic Johnson revealed to use Magic Johnson and I argued on several occasions because I was telling them. Don't pick this. Don't pick Lonzo ball ahead of his brother. This brother can play these fiery goes after it. He's athletic. He's fast. You'll get to the basket. He had a D. destroyed Lonzo ball and the NCAA tournament, and it's not that I don't like Lonzo. Ball, I, think he just needs to be assertive, but he's got promise, but he's. At Fox shooting forty seven percent from the field, just thirty percent from three point range, but again leading the team in scoring assists him buddy. He'll by Donna Vicenza. These guys like that I get it Bagley I. Get it, but my biggest thing is is that they just need a superstar? I look at Deanne Fox as a five player a might Kendrick. Perkins a might Conley Julia type maybe a little bit faster, Daddy, more more athletic, but he's the cod God. That can give you eighteen twenty night. He could be a significant cog in the wheel. He's he's. He's a special duties. A leader I. Love Him, but you know. Know when you talk about the great great stars in the NBA is stuff like that. That's not the kind that's not the Kinda guy he is. He's a bona fide player that can play alongside a star and be a tremendous contributor perennial starter. Even all start again. That can give you eighteen to twenty night, but I look at him like I looked at Mike Conley junior i. don't see that. Do you know I just don't see that that's my issue with potential star, but not a superstar in other words I. Agree Ryan Right now day. That would be true if you've got about winning a championship today this Arab Fox. Fox cannot be your best player. You'd at least one guy least one guy better than him, but could you win a championship in the future with him? As the best player on your team continues to improve, which he does every single year, he is so slept on nowadays, even a because look, they're all these stations players in the league and young players who are right out the gate like Oh, my God. Is that an? An MVP Luca and on and these guys, and it's just such a deep in great league Aaron. Fox has a chance to be just about as good as anyone and people see them that weeks. He's always been slept on as a college player who was slept on your just brought it up. What happened in the tournament? His shutdown Lonzo ball and he gave him a business on the other end of the two thirty nine. So He's clutch to he saves best play for the biggest moments. He's a good defensive player Steven A., but he's a great defensive player. When you need, it most reminds me of Lebron. That way knows when to put his foot on the gas defensively. Yair Fox does the same thing when you need them to make a play at the end of the game. He's like a clutch defensive player. We think about that on offense offense of life, but there are clutch defenders. He's one of them, and he's explosive offensively getting better and better references third season every year. He gets better if that continues then in two or three years. Maybe he can't be the best player on a championship team. He's certainly fast enough athletic enough. The real question at this point is can he shoot it from the outside? He's a career. Career thirty three and a half percent shooter from three, but he shot three. Oh seven just almost thirty one percent, his rookie year, and then again this year missing time this year, but an inbetween shot thirty seven percent, so he's really more like a guy who can't shoot the three exhibition in thirty one percent as a guard from three. It's not gonNA. It's not gonNA cut it. You shouldn't be shooting that shot a lot. You're not really helping anybody, and in fact, you have to shoot it. You're just not being very effective with it at thirty seven percent. He'll be impossible, but let's split the difference more or less. Give them a little bump over splitting this different the because you thirty five percent from three and continue to improve the other facets of his game. By his mid twenties he should be if not an MVP player than at least the kind of guy guys who if you have another guy as good as him, you can contend for a championship. Don't take a snapshot of them as a baby still. That's as good as he's going to get because he's shown the desire and the ability to get better. Here's the Dane when I'm looking at the Sacramento Kings. They're not gonNA land the superstar nobody is GonNa want to go to Sacramento and play for them in free agency. So with that being said yes. They have to build around the Aaron Fox. This young man has proven to get better every single year right now, joining the League company of nine people nine players to only average. Average, twenty six and four Lebron James Russell Westbrook Damian Lillard Yokich Luca trae young, so this kid is a stud, and would a god driven league. The way the League is now. Four has been Gore driven Lee you have to build around them because you're not gonNA. Get into one free agency, so yes, if I'm the Sacramento Kings. Guess when I'm doing Stephen Am maximally I'm. Do. You know what I'm doing I'm back in the truck up to his house paying them that paper because he deserved and he keeps getting better every single year. He's a youngster and like I four. Sacramento is not landing some big free agent in aid free agency market, so it is a guy that you drive or we at the number five pick who's lived up to the hype and expectations Steven A. and he keeps getting better. You draft them. He's doing a great job. Hey, pay build around. That's what I. Well first of all, we didn't say first of all. We didn't say he didn't deserve his money. He deserves his money, nor did we say he could say living. What we've Weston. I'm saying Whoa we're question is whether this is guy that can ultimately kid it done for you. He's going to be a part of it, but they need it. You're right. They probably go get it, but they need. He needs help and he needs somebody. That's going to be better than his. Feed off to help elevate his greatness. Let's rephrase your but hosted. This is how it goes. You're going to London. You're going to have to give them a Max Steel, right? So can you win a championship if you have Darren Fox UNIMAK steel I think you can potentially with tax taxdeal that tells me everything I needed to. Max deal with him. You need somebody. Out, FELLAS! Sorry to cut you off gentleman. I gotta get into commercial break here Kendrick. Perkins always a pleasure. We'll talk to you soon. Sir, stay safe tomorrow we will focus on. Williamson and the Pelicans in bubble or nothing. What can we expect from Zion? Don't miss that Volvo. 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Please, why? Why should I could see to that? I mean you know. Listen think about what he did. He threw goodbye two hundred and eight yards in the two postseason games that he had in the NFC okay against Minnesota and ultimately Green Bay they just gave the ball to their running backs, Mostert, in particular, just ran roughshod over those two opponents. That's how he got to the super. Bowl then he gets to the Super Bowl and the fourth quarter. When it matters most, you got a ten point lead. And what does this do? He goes three four eleven. For what is it thirty six yards and interception of? Down Sex. Oh, by the way I didn't stop that. This is what people don't realize under the friendship. Courtesy of my man Rajawali who used to work for the for ESPN obviously, and I kinda figure in the city of Philadelphia former quarterback for the Eagles, obviously an exceptional NFL analyst. What does he say? He tweets this after the Super Bowl Jimmy G. with no pressure, zero pressure, eighty six percent of his passes, completed hundred and ninety nine yards, tea, or one thousand nine hundred point five passer ratings. When he was under pressure, he completed eleven percent of his passes eleven twenty off for twenty yards. Yards to Sepsis and a SEC. What zero point zero passer rating his two point eight passer rating in the fourth quarter is the worst passer rating in the super bowl by a quarterback, said stats along those lines started compile nineteen ninety nine everybody WanNa. Talk about Jimmy, G. Listen. He ain't no scrub scrub. Don't get me wrong. I understand. The brother can play didn't win games with them. They lost games out of my understanding, but that defense that run a gay Travis Kelsey, and Carl Shanahan are people, you think about before Jimmy ever enters your head and you're the quarterback for the team. Stop It. Is he ready to be as look? He's ready to look like us. Got Stars around. The reality is the reason people are asking this about Jimmy G., and they asked about ally, and they asked him about flacco and they'll ask it about deck. Although DAX still has time is because they're not really right. When we say elite we mean. Do we see in them? An MVP regular season MVP not just the guy who can turn it on in the playoffs because he's a great organization or on a great team, and so no that level of talent is not. They're not like a Mahomes, or maybe like we're Carson. WENTZ has the potential to go right. But could he be elite? The sensitive top ten quarterback shore. It's GonNa. Come down to exactly what you just said Stephen. A He will make or break in terms of reputation in big moments in the play offs. Because if you look at like is Jimmy G. A win, you can give Shanahan all the credit you want. The bottom line is if he's graded scheming guys open and all that. Why without Jimmy G. or they four and twenty? Four and twenty without Jimmy G., so they can't find a replacement guy good enough to get them more than four wins out of twenty four games with Jimmy. You ask twenty one and six the same franchise they reimburse records. They're the basically the worst team in football without him there. Basically the best team in football with everything else is the same, so you can't just give the credit to teammates. You can't just say well any quarterback with succeed like that. Because if that was the case, then replaced with wooden, basically never win. He's obviously very good. Can he be great? That's really what we're asking. He doesn't have the arm of Mahomes or someone like that. I mean let's. Let's leave mahomes added. He doesn't have the arm of a Carson Wentz or anything like that. He's not as accurate as drew brees, but he can throw it well enough. He's pretty accurate. He's been clutch until that fourth quarter in the Super Bowl. He he's been clutch throughout his career. He gets rid of the ball quickly he leaves, and he wins. His reputation will be made or broken on precisely the moment you picked out, Steven A. had. He hit Emmanuel. Sanders he'd be celebrated today. He missed them. They lost, and so the question is. Can he be elite? Jimmy can move into the top ten and be considered a great player if he comes through in those situations. Call me this. Listen here's my issue. My issue is we throw around the term elite. Way Too much okay. When I think of a League quarterbacks, I think of Patrick. Mahomes Russell Wilson. I think of Gaza of Tier Okay Costume. wiz Is in a League quarterback. In my opinion, those guys are the guys that can literally put a franchise on their shoulder and carry them. I think Jimmy G. is a good quarterback. I think Jimmy. G. Has an elite play. Call in college. I think Jimmy has an elite tight in and George George. Kettle I think his Jimmy G. has to do. Stephen A. You pointed out earlier. When the moment arises make. Make, the place I don't think John. Jimmy, G. whatever be an elite quarterback on if the guy's name, but to be a really good quarterback in his lead when the plays are there to be made, you have to make those plays and to me that that's what we need to see from Jimmy G. if he's going to go from the level these at now to the nets level. He needs to make the place in critical terms. When they're there to be made, and it's to me. That's GonNa be in the service. Being a very good thing and then being a super bowl. Winning team is making the requisite plays. Made well that to me is a difference. That's a couple of. A couple of things and the reason why I brought molly up into the equation is because I'm giving her credit or blame whatever words you want to choose. Forgive him. Nickname Jimmy G.. It's Jimmy Garoppolo okay I don't recall. The name. But I guess we say because G is simply Garoppolo, but he doesn't deserve a nickname as of yet number one number two, his are in a red zone, was forty eight last year, which ranked twentieth in the League was forty four in the playoffs last, but not least you have players talking about how college. Basically took the ball out of his hands in some situations I wonder why that was. That's all I'm trying to say. We got to look at those things and not ignore it. He's not a scrub, okay, thirty, one, hundred, thirty, seven and a half million dollar deal seventy, two million in guaranteed dollars we it. He's not scroll. We all know he deserved. It's not as proud okay, and some of his decision making is not that bad. I'd like to say that as well even normally that alone bottom line I know. Is this in the end when it counted? You know you gotta ten point cushion. You can't just blame the forty niners. What could they stop patching? Nobody can stop. They stopped. The for three quarters stopped the for three quarters. Stephen Jimmy Garoppolo's numbers across the board were better when they were trailing throughout the season where they were tied or ahead across the board completion percentage touchdowns, interceptions passer rating all that stuff across the board. He's clutch. He was not clutch in that fourth quarter. There's no two ways about it. He missed that throw to sanders if he hits it, we're. We're singing a different tune in terms of. Of Elite Status I think Carson Wentz has that potential, but Damian I can't put him in that category right now and I. Don't know if you replace Jimmy. Garoppolo Carson Wentz, they playing in the Super Bowl I mean. The of the matter is while he has much better upside Garoppolos. Consistent right. It's ironic that he blew the super bowl because he's consistent when you need him to be, that's. You know you'll drastically when we're hold on uranium. Has missed time. The Eagles have been fine. When Garoppolo's miss time. They go from in the Super Bowl to the worst team in football. That's that's Garoppolo it's not as teammates. Max. You going to sit here and tell me that you think Jimmy Garoppolo is better than cost of wits. Who would you who would you take? Back! Okay going forward I would hang. Has More upside to such talent, but right now who played better in the last couple of years Garoppolo last season rather Garoppolo. Clearly. You saw. was dealing with. His fourth personnel. At the end of last season and got not open up into the playoffs. I mean you learning. It was literally wake. WENTZ! Quarter on third down and got healthy against the NFC. That's what happened last year yet. He did not have a great year last year, but who was he playing with? Who was he plan with? WHOSE PERSONNEL NOT NOT A. Available. deebo Samuel the Mantle Sanders travel. George I mean look at the weapons that Jimmy G. had all around him. 'cause Winston had. That's a little overstated guys. That's a little overstated. Sanders actually turns out a good player, just not a name brand and he has. A tight end, it's headed to the hall of fame, and another one is totally excellent. It's not like he has no. About? Carson wentz conversation. What I'm saying is there are guys like West who catch your eye and you go? Oh, my God Jimmy G. can't do some of the stuff they can. Do you know what Jimmy G. can do all he does? He takes a terrible losing situation and soon as you insert him, they almost never lose again. He's a winning player. You can't just say he's lucky. Because if he was lucky, they win without him. They never win without him. GAME WITHOUT WITH! Of Louis from year to year, they improve. They improved over that last year. They were vastly improved team with some of the acquisitions that they had to coming into last season. They weren't the same. It wasn't like the same place where there, but. They just lost without Jimmy Report Manual Sanders. Stephen they were they were. Let's let's take it back your before that. They basically lost every game till he started then they won five hundred got hurt, and then they lost every game again until he started again and they won every game basically. Back. Mats mats go back and look at the personnel forcing wins with dealing with laugh at the end of last year, and then come back and talk to. Me Read you all stat here Jimmy? G. Owns the highest career win percentage among all active quarterbacks to start at least twenty five games. That's a winner right there. Good all right everyone. The next. Head coaching suggestion for their former star. Is your money, not sure what to do with itself right now at ally, they'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools. Bucket your money for the things that matter most analyze you're spending and save automatically all on top of a competitive rate for all things money. You deserve an ally. Visit A. L.. L. Y. dot com slash savings for more INFO ally. Do it right ally bank member, FDIC. Next President on, Rose said he wants a new head coach in place by the end of this month or next great Patrick Ewing already has waited with his choice. According to Newsday's deep proper ewing's on forward with Tom. Dividend saying that would be a great candidate that tour together on the Knicks for six years when he was an assistant there Stephen. I, will start with you. Longtime Knicks, fans, I know Max has abandoned his team for the Lakers very bandwagon of him. Who would you like to be the next head coach of? Well to me. It would be Mark Jackson. The person that will come to mind before him would be doc. Rivers because I think the Doc rivers is an exceptional coach, a champion and somebody that New York desperately would love to have I. Just don't think he's going to leave la, but if he does win a championship in La with the clippers the next couple of years. Years who knows was bomber will elect to do, or what doc rivers elect to do for that matter, but outside of that I've been about Mark Jackson, for a long time I. Respect the hell out of the top of it. He deserves to be a head coach in this game, and obviously with his years with the New York Knicks. You can't summarily dismissed that I won't try. The reason why. I keep mentioning Mark Jackson because I'm not just thinking about basketball, I'm thinking about how bad the New York Knicks situation has been for years. How the franchise's turned off a Knick fans everywhere and as a result you've gotta have a coach is not just fixated on basketball, but I would love a local product that can rally New Yorkers around him, giving him the benefit of the doubt knowing that. When you hear that coach speak, you believe in him and you believe that he's telling you the truth so it's not just. Just about basketball. It's about somebody that can offset of the petulance that James Dolan will inevitably throw in your direction, the headlines But wanting to ban people from Madison Square Garden for multitude of reasons or anything else the new. York Knicks are not a regular basketball situation. I love the fact that Leon Rosen worldwide west there I believe in them, and I believe they'll get things turned in a positive direction, but I do think it will go a long way for them to bring in a coach. WHO A local product! Mark Jackson from He. He started Bishop Lachlan Highschool went to just say. John, Star, in Queens New York was rookie of the year for the New York Knicks when he came to the NBA His New York route cemented their undeniable, and if you saw him sitting watching down that coaching sideline, you'd be more apt inclined to give the New York Knicks to benefit of the doubt moving forward there by exercises, some patients and appreciating any level of improvement incremental. Otherwise that would come our way. That is why I preach about Mark Jackson because everybody talks about the need. Need for coaching change and I think he's definitive about being that guy for coach a change obviously second than somebody like Doc, rivers, who I don't think is going to be available for the next couple of seasons to season and next season is well we. We see this very much the same way I take doc. I, and I would take Mark Jackson after and let me tell you why. I wouldn't take mark. Jackson or rather. Let me rephrase that if Mark Jackson wants to coach. The Knicks sure go ahead. Take the job, but he. Martinez in the coach, Steven A.. Right I'm sure is a high paying job. He played for the Knicks. He's from New York. For All those reasons the here and now they have better leadership under Dolan in place. I still don't trust anything with Dole and their running the show, but here's my here's how I see Mark Jackson, the coach I liken in him to to buck, showalter in baseball boxer Walter, the manager of the Yankees, and later the Orioles, and of but showalter was great at creating the right kind of culture and developing young talent at a certain point, they did not have confidence. You can take them. He could take them over the top, and they got rid of him for Joe Torre, and won all those championships, and then show up. There wasn't really back for decades in a place where realistically you're GonNa make. Make a run at a title, so that's reputation got home with and Mark Jackson I in a similar situation, we already know that he can create a culture of a team that believes in themselves and each other. We already know that he can develop young talent. We can do that, but we don't know is can take a team over the top, so here's my thought about the Knicks they went to championship no time soon. If ever right, so yes, Mark Jackson could come in from the Knicks point of view. Do a good job getting some of the things right that the knicks have gotten wrong in those respects. Early on, but eventually if things start heading down the right path and miracle of miracles, even with Dole in there, the Knicks start to become a championship contender I don't think the guy who was hired now is going to be around then and that puts mark. Jackson in the same situation, he is now doc. Rivers already got his championship Stephen A.. You can also create a culture and all that I think he's a better fit, but if mark wants the job, you do a whole lot worse. All Right Listen Bandwagon Fan. You're still a fan of the Yankees right because they still win, so let me get you a topic. We have right here. Derek! Jeter had some harsh words. I'm just messing with you Max recently on the failed negotiators between MLB and it's players. I WanNa read you this quote here quickly. It was disappointing. It was embarrassing at times the back and forth there's no trust between the owners and players is the best way to put it, Steven. What do you make of what jeter had to say? What I fear I. Make what I make this fear and the reason why I say fear is because listen. It's a sixty game schedule. The pandemic has ravaged the MLB season, but it's also intensified the discord that exists between the two sides, owners, and the players, and we all know that they're doing it to own. Just want this money. They WANNA curb some of the expenses, but still have a season and try to get money out of it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you have players that went out there and didn't give their all certainly not trying to. Sully their reputations or anything in any way, the situation between the owners and players is so. is so toxic. It's not beyond the realm of comprehension to see guys out there. Some of them anyway looking like they flat out, don't give a damn over the course of sixty games. I'm not saying definitively. That's going to happen, but I'm saying based on what Derek Jeeter has said along with what my feelings have been watching. This toxic relationship regress even more so between the owners and the players, and the both of their pensions and. And not, really think about the fans nearly as much as they should in that respective sport. It wouldn't surprise me at all if I saw play his out there that just look like they could care less. They didn't give a damn. They didn't want to be here. They didn't feel like plan. They were relatively forced to some degree, so we'll just deal with it if for no other reason just to stick it to the owners. Derek. JETER led a charmed. Life is a baseball player Stephen A. I. Don't WanNa diminish the work. Put in I, know he worked very hard, but he was rookie of the year, and won a world series as a rookie, he got drafted to the Yankees which the team he always wanted to play for he one five championships all together the whole thing by the way he has the only ten year contract in the history. History of baseball for almost two hundred million decades ago, worked out where the team actually got their money's worth, and he was happy, so he always had a good even he couldn't even mend fences with Steinbrenner, making a commercial making fun of Steinbrenner when things went south. That's not all the players experience. Jeeter has to realize that he may have trusted the owners more than most players do because he led a charmed baseball life. All right, we'll leave it on that note. There Guys Stephanie there. was there anything to add or you're good? Sounds like Stephen as good all right for Max. Kellerman Steven Naismith I'm molly cameras. Thank you so much for hanging with us. 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Shaquille O'Neal says Robert Kraft is a hero, LeBron James is right for calling out his teammates, Zion Williamson should not shut it down, and plays the new NBA Emoji Game - The Big Podcast with Shaq - Episode 195

The Big Podcast With Shaq

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Shaquille O'Neal says Robert Kraft is a hero, LeBron James is right for calling out his teammates, Zion Williamson should not shut it down, and plays the new NBA Emoji Game - The Big Podcast with Shaq - Episode 195

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James Russell Westbrook Zion. Williamson the NBA draft age Robert Kraft are Kelly job rule. Of course, we'll get borderline will play a round of a new game called the NBA emoji game. Now live from the shack cave in Atlanta, Georgia John McCain and the big off of all all of Famer Shaquille O'Neal, Joe. Remember blood bomber? That is probably the trigger two brothers. Don't mess with explosives and Alexis. One thousand dollars plans zero and I stuck down knife. And. I was like. Through story, America. We're playing on the six zero zero through the low speed at ten you could take. Me older joint. Together. Soil mask. Senior. How were you playing Zorro them without a man because it's called the measure nation. Oh, you get a little knife. And he put it on stick. No. It's the sword. Jake with a knife on God, that's something. I don't even want to imagine Moser took a broomstick of some black electrical tape and put a knife away. Hi shows just one your mother spying, and she doesn't know why she likes then he went down to the many went down to the corner store and back in his days of being a young thug. Shaquille o'neal. I john. I'm about why kids? Are you grew up? We had to find out way back from the store fight when we finish finish. For one reason only why if the people in the cell so tampons and your back. They will talk about you. And Joe take your mama stamp. Yes, no story. So look getting a bag, and you know, your friends boosters, and they see tab on they run around with him. You gotta fight for your mama Tampa. I would suggest and I gotta fight for your mom's. I'm gonna tell you. Over. I know a little of your upbringing, I'm gonna tell you be dog grew up in a less of a rough neighborhood the night, we say each I'm from the west out of Atlanta. He's from west side of Atlanta. He's never been to suburban Philly where I'm from aren't city Oakland CitiBank area is roughly I don't know it's wanna Reveiz air in the city of Atlanta twelve those areas where you just stop signs are. Optional John's neighbor jokes. Being honest. Honest. They just had. But now book head become to Atlanta Buckhead is our one of our most dangerous it goes now if it top ten crimes of code now or the new mayor the mayor just had to have a city meeting last night about the crime and the violent it is a top ten violent crime in Atlanta. Right now. I I don't know. I don't know if his numbers of them. But it isn't there? Who by the way, kisha Lance bottoms? I love the breath of fresh air. She's brought to Atlanta, by the way. But she'd have town hall meeting last night that was packed and people were staying there were two hundred people trying to get in because of the crime and bucket. So you're saying it's a top ten crime areas. Zip code. Violent crime zip code, grow, violent crimes because people are getting carjacked people are getting murdered people. Yes. Carjacking schools crazy book. Band playing. Street back the. Am I drawing a blank the falcons wide receiver rookie? Oh, yeah. I'm just got carjacked. Ridley Scott Carr. Jan wrote. And they stole his car near St. man because I'm always in Buckhead. Any new Lennox near Lennox gonna save you. What they said they knew they went dude, they knew he was Callan Ridley, and they took us card. Did he let them tell you? Yeah. He said he wasn't going to get shot over a car. Don't be stupid lady. Detective shack would say toss them the keys, right? Okay. I have always said if someone wants my car, they can have it. Really okay now. Now, people are listening to you people. Listen to you this. Okay. You forgive him alone force. I understand. Thank you. But that's why man taking your car you're saying, no one's taken your car. But no for the average guy in the street, though, you're not telling them to tell a carjacker. No, a majority do anything. I'm just saying. Blow forsman? So see I'm telling you this. They took my car, and you can you can have my calling. So you I want my life. That's on twenty years of of never seen that type of behavior bucket. Oh my gosh. Every now and you'll see a five at the club. But all this stuff. For me. I'm going to say that it all began on a Super Bowl night were they former Baltimore Ravens, and they had to tear. Well, let's just say. You a white suit? And a limousine that got shot at that had a tire that blew out that they had to hide limousine dispose of the bloody clothing and get the. And that's what they did. And guess what? You know what they've done to that neighborhood. Now, what you jokes forever? Trump can Kate my life. You know, what they did they bulldozed three city blocks that used to be thriving bars and nightclubs after that event, they bulldozed three blocks because Atlanta wouldn't go anymore. They did they bulldozed it, and they turned it into this rodeo drive, which nobody goes to amo-. Oh. Oh. Bucket. We're going to build me a big building. In the middle. Just I'll give you guys a pre-announcement magazines as much, but you'll get free Papa John's for the rest of your life. Wow. That's all you need to know. Okay. It's making a big announcement next week. Wow. Branding dot com. Shacks? We are you know, he Shaquille O'Neal, I'm Jacky Kate. He's robbed jenner's he's beat dog. And we appreciate you. Joining us on the big podcast. We shack while episode one ninety five we're closer and closer to the coaching. This is unbelievable. Already syndication already there. What we're doing? Now. Now, what's that mobile? You to we're going to be on YouTube us. Oh, man. Always wanted to be on you. Did you really away from your under eighteen if you're under eighteen you live on YouTube? Oh, yeah. Something I know with my daughter's ninth graders. They all their TV. They love YouTube TV they love it YouTube everything baseball talking about your your reality show. Either lay love you to we bought to turn this thing up. 'cause know we've been number one for a while. We got some people creeping up when I was talking to pull out that can can jump not Kim Jong do even Jong Il can't Johnson, Dr Leslie Chow Mogo from a hangover in K. The guy for North Korean Joan Joan Susan, Ken, John. The Kim Jong Kim Jong. Joining dangers naked in the trunk. Blow all secret missile. Yeah. To see your secret missile pull matter got cameras in studio today, let's not have any of that that won't get on. You believe me that will know that. Would you take that down? Let's look shack. I just want you to know this eight it's already this isn't the touch of Asia spa here. We're running. The touch of Asia. Let's get to that. Let's do them. With that. It would give him some music music work touch of Asian simply sensitive. Oh, okay. Okay, sensitive. This is that students. People take us to Jupiter shack. Oh, you got something to say. What about? Breath. Yes. Shut the hell up. What what are you talking about show them? What are you talking about? First of all I'm going on record to say the man had no knowledge of the sting that was on. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Will because a lot of guys including some of these listeners that have had a home run massage. I'm just saying third of all demand seventy seven maybe he wanted to see if it's tool still work. So he went back. He was there Saturday. And then he went back Sunday just to show or what he's a man why you gotta double check John. Seven. No services wife, just pass away a lot of stress fears ago doesn't matter okay. A lot of stress. Bruce billion. It's stressful job. Get out of here soon as begs stress, but you don't have bags you look beautiful. So let's see if all these people leave him alone, demand got touched up. He released all the stress. Seventy seven stopping wait a minute. Wait, a statue of limitations on if I was him. That was me. I would have gotten front of it so quick it would have been a media of it. This is what I would have done. Okay. I wouldn't win said. Hey. Seventy seven among a lot of stress a went into the place, and 'cause my 'cause my man haven't been working for the past five years I touch and before react I released and now my man's working. Again. I'm feeling good. Yes, I've been healed. I'm guilty on all charges, by the way, it happened. Like that like Robert here for like eleven minutes. Listen move when I'm seventy seven, I hope my man, still work. He's a hero in my. Manufacturing music to win a hero comes alive. Comes seventy seven why you can't say covers along that's not appropriate because seventy seven what you have some fun, leave him alone. Oh my gosh. You're unbelievable. You're unbelievable. Leave him alone. Yeah. I can't believe it. Fled not guilty. Because you know, why tell me employees like this they offer. So like like, you know, sometimes you you go from us, and they say do you want the home run really going to any massage? What do you mean where am I going anyplace any strip mall? It has a massage parlor. Jupiter Jupiter have allowed a fancy Randy stuff. They do. But it's now they really don't know. They don't so any places messiah sometimes they offer. Sometimes they don't. The. Like, the dancing business is like born on dancing, stripping, the massage businesses is you know, professional homerun trust me. I've no serious. I've had a lot of offers. And I'm like now, I'm cool. Just go and get the facts. The right back at the left. Let's get the time. Everybody's making a big deal of what all men do. All men to know all men release, John. That's what not all men go to strip malls. And. First of all he wasn't aware of that. We just went to a place to get a massage. Stop is first of all John know, Mr. law enforcement, can I can I say something first of all you have no clue that he didn't know that we fish do. We fake. He's my friend, guess what? But we don't know. They didn't he could lie to you. Some he could lie to you. He Termine the truth. Could you're right. And when you talk up, but he told them the truth. No, none of that was going on. Okay. So hold on. I need to see footage of him. Still do they get a massage? Or did you get a massage? Now, he got got both. No, no, no was in their eleven minutes. He didn't get any massage the first time, according to police report at according to police what they say you'll see on video. He went out. So where he women unite you when he went in for that. That's what the police said flat out, and guess what they stopped him on Saturday when he left the place law enforcement stopped him talk to him anyone back on Sunday. So he's wrong for the he went back to the same place Malone. Gosh, unbelievable. He's a Masaaki realize those places like if you go to chick A and you get like five sandwiches for free. Don't you always go back to the same? I would I would just say I was thinking I would suggest is and I'm being in all seriousness in the prostitution trade in the United States. And this is law enforcement numbers. The average the average woman row prostitution right now is underage. That's a problem. Yeah. That's a problem. If you're if you are dealing with prostitutes, when you know when you know that industry is populated by half the women are underage, then you're doing business with people that you know, are really bad. You got to stay away from that stuff guys. And by the way, if you have six million dollars, and you can't find some woman that wants to do that John. Seriously ill. You're not million billion. Can't find. So if you had six million, you could find somebody to do that, maybe he was going to look for guess what? And he got caught it was taking up his drag which is a misdemeanor about away. Everybody just flipping until Antillean. So nothing's going to happen. Oh, man. He got a free releasing got free publicity. And the headline was should he lose his ownership in the patriot? Are you kidding? This far we found felony felony. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you're filming. Okay. Guess what? Then we're in complete agreement. Then you tell me now Shaquille O'Neal why Donald sterling was forced to sell the clippers. He didn't commit any crime year. But he didn't commit a crime. He didn't even do a misdemeanor, and he was forced to sell his franchise. Yeah. But I think the court of public opinion got him up out of here when you when you blur a racial slur. Like, Dan, you you have a team full of African Americans who here that and don't wanna play for you. They force you out. They force your show because it was bad for the business. Got forced business. Everybody's business. Everybody in everybody's business. You can't rivers doc, Riverstone quit. Doc rivers. Didn't save Quinton. John is getting three million dollars. Exactly. And they knew what kind of man he was there was documented as far as who. He was before that event. Donald sterling. Yeah, they did. And he didn't commit a crime. So I'm just saying to you is it was document, but his documents guy released because he's. Too much. I gotta give props to dinosaur barbecue in New York for having on their menu, a Robert Kraft jerked in pulled chicken sandwich. His brilliant marketing on their part. The Robert Kraft jerked and pulled chicken sandwich and and bucket. Honestly is true. It's it's it's jerk chicken book says today today on our local show. What is everybody saying at the at the combine the NFL's having their combine heavy gotten a crafty lately? On. Crafty, you may not go to jail, but he he gonna have to take these jobs over this your. Live with this. Okay. Gave them go to bed and crime selflessly in money. Can can you explain to me? What did LeBron James not understand about going to the Lakers? What did he not understand about? What kind of team he was joining and where they're at because I'm baffled by some of the tactics that are going on and some of the stories on more baffled told me what the force big out to make sure that the public mutiny of him on his teammates. Let's do this Anderson coach here's LeBron out. They lost the other night still allow distractions to affect the way you play. This is this is the wrong franchise be part of just come and be like this. I can't do this. Seriously, yours distracted by playoff pushes. This is the wrong. Franchise George you're getting soft. That's what the hell you're supposed to do. I deduct Dolatshah wake me Kobe beef. Yeah. That's what you do. If you step it up. And I'm talking to you like this. I'm calling you out so tactic sometimes serious. Sometimes is not a lot of times, I've waited and wave away when I call people they get mad because I'm gonna get mad. They play. Here's Br brought the LeBron is not a militias guy. He's very smart. And he knows what it takes to win the championship. And he he's he's he's right in this. I'm not just saying this because Brown, I don't really care. What is he's right. I even said this on TV. You don't want to be traded. You wind up being traded in step. You're damn game. Okay. Team Fisher on TNT slow Tom to sit and sulk. If you don't wanna be traded or you don't wanna be talked about step up. Lebron is used to play with guys that hit shots and make them. Look. He's not having that right now. So you know, I two ways ago. That say something guys get sensitive and step up or you say something and guys just, you know, stay sensitive all year. It's over you get traded. Look, I was traded six times. I never thought about it. You move on is the business the best ball. But if you wanna be a guy that doesn't get traded. You got to step up period period. Suggest to you. Lebron James on a camera lecturing people about if you don't playing this organization, LeBron you are a renter on the Laker brand. The Laker brand was built on James worthy. And Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Hilo Neo. And guess what? He is a renter till he does something and him. No. You are in a renter. You're an older. That's why you're on the side of the building. You're an owner. Now when I got a room, I got that danger all the type, but they did. And then, and then you mult-, you you one and you want, and you want some more because of the fact that shack he he went to a brand he went to an ape plus brand and he's a renter. He's renting an apartment and until he does something there. And by the way, bailing on young people, and and fro and people onto the bus and making them the reason, you're not succeeding, by the way. He's as distracted as anybody. So. People never win John all that. So I never use that. And I never will even with my kids. I do not play that. I got you know that. And I know that about you in all of Matt over Pinon, but I don't see nothing wrong with what he's doing now one. If I'm a young player and say this was like, you know, people always say, oh, you have problems with Dwight out. I've only got do. I I've only tried to get the White House to do one thing. I wanted to wait how to save shack watch this. That's all. So I wanted to all them youngsters on the Lakers. It'd be at what I'm not. Okay. What? Because listen if all attentions on him, it really no pressure on you. So if you don't want to be traded, and you want to get that that new money work on your game and step up a simple. Here's what I would suggest though on this too. Is that when you're talking about shack? What you what you and everybody else pushes for LeBron tells them, they're distracted. And I'm gonna tell you this. Lebron James is the most distracted professional athlete I've ever seen in my life because he can't decide to be one. To be a celebrity a movie producer, a talk show host social activists. Guess what? And what did Jerry West say to you when you came to the Lakers? Visit so that you can do but make sure you win. What did he say? I when if you wanted your name up in the rafters, you told the story. If you wanted to go have to chill out on some of the LeBron came to LA with four other projects that he wanted to put right side by side with the Lakers. He he even said the other him he admitted it in his own words. I got nothing left to prove something along those lines. I've got nothing left to play for. I'm just. Guess what? Yes. Because you came to the Laker brand you chose the Laker brand to squat on. And that's where you're you're a squatter right now, you'll improve Cleveland nothing to prove staying Cleveland. He came to the Laker brand. And guess what? My man Magic Johnson who I- door. Magic. Magic Johnson to me. That's the Laker brand shack and Kobe is the Laker brand, James worthy and Kareem. The Laker Brad US to win our brothers back. Yes. Absolutely. And I don't wanna hear it totally agrees. Bogor Gordon on all your successes. He's had success in Cleveland. But he's right about it. But he's right about everybody stepping up period. Okay. Listen, Boston, Miami big boy big ball franchises. If you if you can't take the Golden State. Okay. Take the heat. Don't bring to John's point he walked into Los Angeles. Okay. But. Confidence. Cause remember true definition of great players wanted to make others greater. So if I'm kicking to be and be hitting shot. Guess we're gonna talk about mad dog. He so at some point they're going to have to step up and everyone in this room believes that LeBron James is is freaking awesome. He's awesome. But in this is such a miscalculation. It's as if he didn't know the roster that we talked about in the summer that he was joining and we were questioning what does he do? What is he doing this with some people like is talked some people though. Well, but you know, the crazy part about it. Is a Laker fan. Those guys you knew what you kicking it out to to Brandon Ingram or kicking not to Lonzo or kicking. None of these guys are pure shooters. Sola Bronx drive and and kick out where you kicking it out to and having a kyri Irving shooter. I think LeBron is used to playing a style. And correct me shack if I'm wrong because you know, one hundred times more than I do he's used to playing a regular season style where he's not going to expound. He doesn't own expound all of his energy. So by the time, April comes he's dragging his ass up and down the court. But in LA, he doesn't have the guys who can carry him don't way they're going to win is if he plays full out playoffs LeBron and he's not used to wanting to do that in a regular long. You don't to get the ace bottling get blown up, man. Oh boy. Exactly. That'd be good. Let me ask you. Did. You have an issue with all the. Public trade. Now's was yeah. I want this guy to come here and play here, and all the other public trade things that are out an open what the Lakers were offering cause some people feel as though what s shouldn't have been public that shouldn't have been this that shouldn't have been interesting on the reps. There's never been kept on the ropes is just more prevalent because you got social media talk about he got speculators. You got a million pile guys. You've got two thousand shows you got a trillion blogger. So but people always do because that's how I got Horace Grant. So I got hordes going because I knew he was having problem with the bulls. I just said I said on their man if I had a guy like Horace Grant Bobo boom agent his agent hurt to read article called the magic. Now k now what about tampering it was just so just a little subtle. All the other night. Russell Westbrook gets touched by a kid. Yeah. Located courtside probably what ten years old if ten nine if ten he's around a ten year old, and in my mind, Russell Westbrook. And and listen to it. He's hypersensitive he hit me. So I told his dad just do careful to have your son just hitting hitting Ren people. Just going to control your kids. All the fans, though, you know, it's too much leeway man for the fans to be able to touch the players and get away with it. And then can't react. Do things that we need to do to protect ourselves. So it's important that they understand kids, whoever it is that moms that they can say what they want. But the touching to me is off limits to protect yourself from a ten year old aren't can I go Stephen a Smith on this. Are you freaking kidding me? Miss. It's a child. No, no, no, no, adult touched him shack. If a if a twenty year old twenty five year old thirty year old eighteen year old even eighteen year old did the exact same thing. I would one hundred percent back that speech a ten year old touch. It was a mistake by a cancer. You know? Knows a kid. He turned and law when he wouldn't have known point his his point is touching. You. And he didn't hit him. You know, it hit them touch me. He didn't hit him. What are you talking about? No. You can't do the regardless thing because he's saying something that didn't happen. He didn't get hit. Okay. Hold on on dry. And it was a child germs looking at it. What is this? What is that? That's a slap slumped on the slept on the no no slept falls under the category. John. Now, we're doing Samantha. Just what your point I'm saying. Let's. Yes. You didn't hit him? But he did touch them. Yes. He was he's a child. He made a mistake say, here's what I'd say. Mama. Data fast about it. Hey, mom and dad tell your kid not to be touching anybody courtside on. No. Then he gets into this big Tiet tribe, which you know, would the mistake. He made is when something negative happens. You have to turn into of without a did oughta picking little kid grabbing. Oh, that would have been fun. You aren't serious so long. Russell westbrook. Will Sarah that would have been hilarious. Teaching moments to teaching moment, man, fun moment. Russell Westbrook wouldn't have to go on and put on his fake glasses at his press conference. Go out there with his backpack. But do you not think he handled the situation? Well in them in the moment because he turned around the kind of stuff. Join you can't have people just touching people. I agree with you the minute. I saw was a child I would have gone into shack mode. I would have gone into shack. But that's not right now. No, of course, not because he doesn't have one. Well, no. But I'm saying. Today. Old man smile. What if it was mile relaxed? Get get a piece into cheese like what if it was a crazy place. What if it was? I said to you. If it wasn't a dull that had done that. I totally back him. But when you see it's a ten year old you can then take a teaching moment afterwards or even at the time. He talked to mine. Mile laugh, relax. That's how you would have. Did he will have gone shack mode? And that's what I would have done too. And I think most people that don't have a poll, I think most honestly, maybe I'm being naive. I think most fans know enough not to touch I would never touch boast fan. How many times have we seen this happen? Thank you. We haven't. So this is the whole reason why it should have been a joke. You should have been handled positively if I'm the parent of Chow Chow is a reflection of apparent, hey, don't touch this guy. You're not allowed to touch the latest child. No, they think it's fine child. I guarantee you the kid is another issue would it is non issue. But this is the world we live in God. Everything's an issue. Nothing's a non-issue. Let's laugh for a minute as the I will hold that for shack and see if we should read that online. They know back. Oh, the New England pay for two. Sorry, robert. Robert shack roads out on his own. You gotta eat these folks, did you did did you see John's shoe explode? Yes, man. I was in praising measures told the tells me two things that he's probably one of those kid that likes to wear stuff is worn out and just keep wearing it. Okay. Or he has a lot of power. So I'm going to say, well, he probably does a lot of now. About two cents. I did I did some research and they say like he likes to wear shoes. Keep wearing oh, I used to wear brand new shoes every game a lot. A lot blisters never get bliss. I've really get blisters. If yours now remember size twenty two about twenty three to para socks defeat. And a lot of take a lot of tape love. Okay. So the they did there is one of the theory though, that the nine year old kid who put the sneaker together over sweatshop that they actually had you know, maybe they had an off day. May maybe they immediately. Watch off all this talk about he shouldn't play shut the hell up people. Okay. That was my other question for you. Shut the whole shut it down conversation decided to you'll be dumb. Really? What would you rush to a rookie contract? Why would you risk which remain risk? You're not getting paid. Well, risk risk. You've what? Okay. So what happens is the shoe explodes. Any any buses ankle up? Go to sit up like everybody. Maybe go back to college your contract, ain't that great. Every rookie contract will be the same here their their goal contracts. So if you can get higher education, if you could be a better basketball player, hang out with some friends do that all that sitting now stop it. Okay. So he he probably has Loyola London insurance, which is one or two million dollars. And that's how much going to be making him when he went. If you come out, they say Hannity. And then all he could get a shoe. Okay. But listen that ain't going away. True. So for going on. Well, he does have gets eight million bucks. If he drops to fifteenth in the draft sixteenth sixteenth. Yeah. Okay. So if you dropped sixteen tickets, eight million bucks, which is the policy if his policy that he has insurance policy if he drops to sixteenth or worse than the draft. He gets eight million dollars from Lloyd's of London, which is fantastic means his draft. Value was hurt enough. Crosser? Those I would have no from the diesel fun. Don't worry about getting hurt. Just play a game the money going to be their brother. Trust me. That's awesome. Same stuff. Shacks us all the time. So you always. Always true story 'cause I was a sophomore junior. I knew I was going to be no one pick. I just knew it. So I came home one day my sophomore year. My father said I said, hey, I think we should go pro for what? Say man won't you talk. Let's do is get the money. My father says you've been broke for eighteen as you can be broke for nineteen years. Will we will have this conversation three hundred sixty five days? Mazda smart, and then guess what? Made a better name for myself, solidified my number one, and before I signed the contract five million from Reebok a year one million for signing car deal five million movie blue-chip, I already had thirteen million before I came out. So and then he had money for acting, less uncle. Yes. Let me let me just say to that. You talked about being broke for that extra year. What about the NBA dropping the one and done? I am so happy about this which remained trouble. They they're they're making moves to get rid of the one and done after for the twenty twenty one draft dropping as number from nineteen eighteen going back to where you can skip the one year of college most, don't wait a minute. I thought for sure you'd be on you'd be online with this. Why are you forcing guys to come? And absolutely play the clown show up. We're pretending like we're college students for year. They don't care about college. They don't know their average, by the way. Should I saw thing lasts four? No is shoe. It was not last year's included. But the four drafts before that the average guy who coming out one and done was coming out with less than three college three. College course credits. They should they don't care. They should why should they they're just there to park themselves for a year. It's only two successful. Maybe. Three successful at all the guys that came up high school a lot car. Kobe Moses Malone, Kevin Garnett. Lebron James Brown j four K. There's wait a minute. Those burgers didn't win it. This work. It's been more. He has. Chasing McGrady, right? Sarah. Smith was Tracy McGrady. So you don't need one year of college to go the NBA call successful. I would say I would say going to the if you if you get to the NBA, and you tell me you're gonna have an eight ten twelve year career, and you didn't go to college. God bless you. God bless you. I hope to say the money, but I was go back. A lot of names you said a lot of them broke Labra John love ATM's can't play. Then guess what? Don't don't protect an NBA franchise from themselves. Put enough to scout a kid and then not always a player. Why are you protecting them from themselves? It was gonna make it a terrible crappy product NBA echo user, fourth goes through us, and they should have. To go. They should go for the hall three years for you. News. You gotta have credits or you gotta give thirty percent of your money or years that I hate. Hey, man, US at entrepreneur which shock, you know, what I want. I tell right now. I'm a great businessman 'cause I stayed that extra year took some business courses. Okay. But there you and it helped me a new a new the instrument always said that. No, no, listen, listen, I knew I knew that instead of taking the money as a person you start up with subchapter s corporation, you can right everything gets tax money. Little like that save you trillions. Guys don't know that guy was going to take the money in naming and get hit by FICO gonna keep you. So just stay on the extra three hundred day taking a couple of business courses marketing courses, I learnt that they that's why. And that's why nothing is in my name players straight out of high school. Kevin garnett. Kobe Bryant Jermaine O'Neal whole racy McGrady. Okay. How do you measure success? I just told you you have an eight ten twelve year NBA career. God bless you. Yes. That's highly. Success? You've got a contract in there. He's got a nice little that's highly because you can do whatever you want the rest of your life. No. You can't why educated enough to know what to do when they give you thirty million. That's why you can't do it. Well, can't you? Hire the smartest guy in the room to help you with that can't the NBA. Direct the smartest guys a real people do that. But these kids don't listen because they think they know what they don't. Well, guess what you can't protect people from themselves. Just like the NBA draft having them go one and done is trying to was put in place to try to protect the NBA owners for making mistakes on drafting guys out of high school that turned out to be busts. That's what that rule was put in for. It wasn't put in for the good of the kids. Go three years and how proper credits. Tyson Chandler Amari Stottlemyre. Lebron James, obviously, our final there. Okay players. They are Andrew bynum. Hey. Wait a minute. I I know. No. As a Sixers fan. Why moat? How many times do you have to call them people up? Joke. Jimmy and make sure it's broke. How many teams did get a paycheck from he got him for beliefs for these these three? At least three or four guys Asians. They got forget ring. Yeah. Guess what? You gotta rid off Shaq's house tonight and get like three or four. Would wanna do that? Joe? Hey next week in the show. We're gonna take our first look around the NCAA tournament, courtesy of our friends at vivid seats, and if you want to go to the games this year, you've got to check out the deals at vivid seats because with vivid seats, you can get in on the madness. 'cause they're the top source for tickets for all the live events. You wanna see and I've used vivid seats before to get some of the best games of my life. You want those tickets you need to use them to start making memories yourself. You can sort by price or look for seasons section and row of your choice, vivid? 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You think of that documentary the came on the I think they were forced into finally making a move upon a guy that they should have made a move on years years ago. Covered for him charge it for charging Chicago, ten counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse situations that documentary the documentary came in I told you I said this thing made my skin crawl. The need you. Did you already know all these stories because I didn't I didn't. I heard a few things when he had his first trial is in a lot of. Lot of stories. We probably thought they were urban. Yes. And then you're thinking they're missed. That's what I thought when he was found not guilty at the very first trial when they couldn't convict him. I thought you know, what this man's reputation is being trashed with fake stories and things like that. And then you watched that documentary, and it makes your skin crawl a bit and it's horrifying, and I'm surprised he hasn't. Honestly, I'm just saying not not me. I'm just saying is I'm surprised nobody had him on the short end of a pistol. Because seriously what they were why did somebody not where the where the people? Young girls like that. And parents don't know where their kids are all this other stuff. It's like. Bill. No damn documentary then. Yeah. No gosh. No. Cancel all these cameras and tell you I I gotta tell you right now. And I can promise you if that happened in my neighborhood back home. That's not how that story gets resolved easily. Oh, and you know, it too. No result. Would take one man in the neighborhood saying to five other men in the neighborhood in his S would have been beaten to a pulp, and I'm not talking about a murder every song about nasty. There's something to be said for neighborhood policing when people care about their community and police their own streets. I'm police their own. I other could another dad in your neighborhood grownup. Another parent could a mom or dad smack you until you shack stop that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You're doing something wrong. If they saw you in the street, they saw you doing the repair, but not every parent, but some few grandparents do. And your parents would affect you. Encourage my neighbors, not to hit my daughter. But to be like if she's acting up sent her home, cling cheat. You don't have to not censor home under home. Home under home. The did you did you hear or see any of the Jau rule stuff? Gosh, gosh, you don't understand. What's going on? This is marketing what a one Jiao rule, you might be onto something. Hear this. All right. Do you want to hear the audience? Oh, no. I know I've heard the audio, but let people here this Jau ruled back at ninety night last week at the bucks game. This is marketing one on one the let's hear it though. All right. Well here and doing but making this nonsense more famous. Oh, it's hilarious. Did. So you're saying all set up, of course, I can talk about something. Go viral listen to the crowd at this at this event, though. They said this is ninety tonight. So they brought out a two thousand artist. Came out ninety nine. So I guess that counts Sanchez. We ready. We read. Nothing. I guess. You're saying that's tells technical difficulties. Mary go. He finally got it. Go. And then from there yet. It does make sense. Almo put occurs. First of all the next Martin. I who are you. Who cares? Right. People care talked about marking wanna one he's trolled online. So he decided to. Always get get trolled. Thousands artist. With charl. You have understand that marketings market. Good or bad. When I get troll. You think I really care? No, general care. Shack care. Guess what he needs and he's giving because what we're doing right now four minute talking about. Thanks. I looked up. Vis vis NetWorth. Yes, he cared. But shacks onto something. Was putting the story this week show. She I was always I went early putting a general store. You're right. 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What did I just hear being? Other f-? Oh, you do not be did. I hear you heard and. Hoping that you heard and look I would I listen I got if I'd been watching at home, I would've put on the closed captioning. So I heard the words I would have been able to try to read the words on the screen. Okay. Clunker. And john. Thank. Listen to hip hop. It all depends. But she doesn't listen anything Phalle. Owl. She's young. But when she's eighteen. Oh, yes. Older changes on. Really? Yeah. Okay. I got three little sweet wounds with now they're eighteen. I I have no control. None. Listen to John rule. It's a mess. Absolutely. March continues on a ton of action in the NBA college hoops, even the NHL shacks favorite. So with teams now putting themselves in position for the second half of the season, March madness less than a few weeks away every game becomes that much more important as we've been saying for months now, there's only one place that has all your early lines. All the action you want. 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Do you guys everybody for some reason this resurface this week sent me the you? Remember this moment from Paul Pierce, thirty thirty five minutes means it as early twenties. He should just the taste of like it all trying to get the taste almost the whole never that that was number three seed last year's borderline bracket. And for some reason it popped up this week. And everybody's like you go to put it on the show. And I'm like what the hell of y'all been because we played on the show a ton of time. So Paul Pierce and alum, but we are going to start with another border love Paul Pierce by the truth. Shrew f-. I still think if you're talking about if I was making a list of ten most underrated athletes that I don't think get enough respect for what they I think Paul Pierce be one of Boston green was pretty ugly, but you know, might have been ugly, but hall, here's Paul Pierce. Great player, but John Kincaid, a borderline all star what? And he made another appearance, by the way, this Kincaid like third or fourth appearance in the last. This was from the Jesse small at story. How jussie doing he's doing fine? Good. I'm glad he will receive no jail time wise that well he's ended this point. He's nine. Is going to have to pay for all the resources over us those? No, we already know attacker was white. He's that he's still saying you receive no Jota what she said forget believable. Did you know it was being filmed? Kevin, shannon. Here's Kincaid talking about Jesse small at about two weeks ago on this very show junkie smollet, then manages to beat off two attackers to attack. Well, that's a whole beat off to. Tucker. Let's say I don't think you would have reported it if that's what. Remember, this only a misdemeanor. He would've traded phone. Telling you. Just not bleach. Exactly with the first pick in the NFL draft. The patriots jussie smollet jesse's, Mr. Kraft's makes the pick personal. And finally, thanks to barstool sports for sending this one over. This is Mike Giardi is that you say his name NFL network. He's on the set with Andrew Sicilia. No at the NFL combine they are talking about grunk of all people. And this was the live report from the NFL Combi last year, physically the dick van. Distant? Richard. Last year the. Gobi name for a restaurant bulging Richards, by the way, if you never. Bolting richards. If you've never seen the video, and you know, that I think Keith Olbermann might be the worst person ever in the world. I know that if you've ever seen the video of Keith Olbermann and Steve Levy doing sportscenter show. It's the best bulging neck and his neck. Yeah. We've before the it's it's one of the best best ever. But you over. The absolute the absolute I'm telling you this. I've been in the media I've been in the media almost thirty years thirty years, I've been to me, and he is the he is the worst person that I've ever encountered in the media. 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Hour 2: No Stealing

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Hour 2: No Stealing

"Spain and Fitz. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage app and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain with you as always Jason Goth Fillon in fits tonight. ESPN radio's presented by progressive insurance. Let's out to the shell Pennzoil performance line. Where ESPN MLB analyst Tim Kirk joins us. Tim, your reaction to the Machado side and the money and the years. Well, I was tiny bit surprise. Although the last week it became pretty clear. The Padres are big time players when they visited Machado a second time, and it is a risky move. Almost any and your deal for that kind of money is risky. But this is the Padres trying to become relevant again if it under five hundred for eight years in a row and been the playoffs since two thousand six that never won the World Series. They've got great young players on the way and they needed to start to build around and Manny Machado is really really good player. So I'm not sure what things are going to look like after five. Years. Let's say let alone ten, but they took a chance at this. And I I say go ahead. We would trash these games for not trying hard enough and not trying to win. And then we trash for trying to hard at baby overpaying. We'll see where this goes who. Do. You think the loses are in the Manny Machado sweepstake some Chicago White Sox fan. So I know who I feel the losers who do you think loses out the NO west the rest of the annot west the other teams, maybe the people who are going to pay Bryce Harper who loses in the situation. Well, I think it's the White Sox 'cause Kenny Williams the club president made it abundantly clear that they really wanted him and their their offer was better. So I think you have to put the White Sox there 'cause the White Sox are in a similar situation. They are trying to, you know, build around a big time star player and let their young players develop while the star helps them, and that's just not going to be the case. I was with the Phillies yesterday and today. A and it was clear that they were not willing to pay Machado ten years for three hundred million. They were not going that high. So I don't think we can include them because they made up their mind or not paying that much for Manny Machado talking to Tim Kirk on the shell Pennzoil performance. You can follow him at Kirk Shen underscore ESPN. Sounds like Bryce Harper is already reportedly turned down a couple three hundred million dollar deals. What do you think the number's going to be on him? And do you have an inkling of where he's going to end up? Still though where he filming for three and a half months that I've been Phillies camp for three straight days is today the day signs, and I did not send from the Phillies that they were in a hurry to do anything. And when Machado signed that was absolutely no, hey, we lost out on Machado. We gotta go get Harper. Now, I didn't send that at all. So my guess is and the emphasis on the word gas or I still think he's going to end up with the Phillies. I think he's going to get more than three hundred million. But maybe another team swoops in here. I just can't find that other team that's within. But this is how free agency works. It's full of surprises tomb. Are we witnessing a redistribution of wealth where we've got analytically savvy general manager's and player's union? That's watching not only guys get three hundred million dollar contracts. But also a guy like Todd Clifford signing a minor league deal. What's happening right now in economically in baseball. We need to keep track of well. There's been a sea change in the game on how free agents are dealt with. We saw last winter. It was clear if you were thirty two years old last winter, you're not getting at declining skills. You're not getting the four or five year deal. These new brilliant remorseless lung young general managers are not paying that kind of money anymore. They have developed a value system based largely on sabermetrics. And if you don't fit in that value box, you are not gonna get signed by that team. Harper Machado, of course, are different categories. 'cause there. Track records prime of their career. But so many other players are out there wondering when am I going to get paid? And the answer is if you think you're a twelve million dollar player or you used to be maybe you're just a six million dollar player now. And I think the players had better get used to it because these owners, and these GM's are just operating I believe in a smarter way. Tim Kirk talking to on Spain fits your Sarah Spain and Jason Goff. I've heard different analysts different baseball players. And even the Commissioner say different things about what we're seeing in free agency Manfred not worried about it some saying just the top couple twenty-five players not signing as the issue not a hundred of them where are you sitting now on I know, you just said GM's have different approach. Do you think there is any sides of the player beef on what we're seeing? Yes. I certainly do. I'm wondering are these teams cruelly trying to win in every possible way? Way. What they're doing is is they're saying, well, if we're gonna win seventy four games, we might as well with the eight games because we're not going to the playoffs and it way and eight maybe we could save some money develop some young players. I understand all of that. But I think good portion of this is on the players for basically signing a collective bargaining agreement. And the the owners have every right to make a change in this now, and it's up to the players to make that adjustment. And this is not collusion. Like I covered in the late eighties. But Andre Dawson had a blank contract and said, please somebody films. Same thing, especially after Manny Machado, just got three hundred million dollars. How do you feel about the signs stealing culture going away? I, you know, the game has always been a little bit about getting an advantage and getting as many advantages you possibly can without breaking the rules wholeheartedly. What do you think about this new these new policies that might be implemented? Yeah. I'm a little worried that we're overreacting here. I've had major league manager for years pill may look there are those secrets in baseball. We kind of know how the game operates everyone's stealing science. They know how this works. The guy gets traded. He goes to the next team and kids sign that's just how it works. Just a little bit worried. We've gotten a little bit paranoid about how stealing signs with technology today. And even though it's really important, and there's there's no place for electronics dealing of sign. I think baseball is just a little bit too worried about this and putting too great an emphasis on this. See, I agree, Tim. And here's why. Because even if it's not happening as often as teams are paranoid to believe the optics of a game ending or a series ending and people genuinely believing that may have been decided in part by one team being better at cheating are really bad for baseball. Right. We don't want to end the series and have the Astros accused. And then they say, well, we weren't doing it. We were actually just trying to see if the other team was doing it, doesn't it just makes sense to put more measures into place that make it less likely that we believe that that had a hand in the game. I see your point. But I don't think there's enough electrons stealing going on that is going to affect the outcome of a series or a game. And again baseball people that I've talked to went through all of this in the winter all these meetings. They had they just told me it was kind of a waste of time and their mind, but these are veteran baseball guys and they don't run the game anymore. The game is being run by young brilliant, people who understand everything about technology. And I think that's why these changes are being made. Speaking of new advent and things that are being implemented the pitch clock. We've had a couple of pitchers already high profile pitches. Speak out about ignoring the pitch clock. Not caring about it. How do you think rob Manfred will respond to this after spring training is wrapped up? Well, he has to see, of course, like the rest of us how it goes in spring training and the ballpark's which it's used how the pitchers respond to it. If it's a negative if it doesn't work. Then they're not gonna put it in. But if it starts to work, then eventually, we're gonna have a pitch clock. Maybe not in two thousand nineteen. But now in spring training is the time to experiment again, the players right now or just in no mood for, you know, stealing signs and pitch clocks and everything else. They wanna get their free agency situations. I and they don't wanna talk about anything else. That's like Tim Kirk Senate ESPN, let's talk money. And then I'll give you my expertise gotta sixty or the bag tenth, thanks for the insect, Tim. Appreciate it. Okay. I love. Tim's goodbyes. All right. Who's mad g allow us secure the bag with Tim Kirk? Yeah. Dial on brand for him. Just bending culture is over and over again sarahspain, ladies and gentlemen. Get triple action protection for optimal engine performance with shell v. Power nitro plus premium gasoline coming up on Spain and Fitz can baseball stop teams from stealing signs. And when we'll Bryce Harper sign. We'll talk about it next benefits on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the SPN Eappen Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain with you Jason gov. Filling in for fits ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance making easy to bundle your home and car insurance, and we can get to the Harper stuff. But I quickly want to wrap up that conversation about in the science dealing. I don't think it's as simple as just putting into place the measures that the MLB is doing I think there's tiny little cameras, and there are people who are always going to make it a priority to try to get an edge on the other team. I don't think having manager sign a piece of paper that says we will never knowingly intend to steal signs, right? Like, we already all know. It's not allow. Loud. So a piece of paper ain't gonna change that. But I do think it matters that they're gonna make these steps and order to make us the viewer feel better about the product. Right. They're going to ban info in-house outfield cameras from foul pole to file pool. Live broadcasts are limited only to one designated official who's going to be monitored by security expert when they're looking to replace all other monitors in the clubhouse in the bullpens in the stadium will be on an eight second delay. And there are penalties. If you if you're violating the rules. I think you need that because I just don't like the end of games were series two and with people having arguments about which team cheated better. I don't know if I'm a the barometer that this discussion may need, but I'm gonna give you my opinion on it. Because I I don't know that I find myself being upset about signs stealing or the the intimation of signs stealing it happened with do you feel bad about pitch tipping guys who just have a tick? And you figure it out or seems that's that to me is knowing. The game being smart player. So if that's the case, then changing, your signs up a little bit more often or having more variance in your signs would also be that in a more extreme fashion than me. I know if that's what Clinton Yates it on around the horn today, just as simple as be better and have more different times and everything else. But I get that. But I think the game's been around long enough there's been enough attempts. I think there's a reason why they've made this something that they consider cheating and not just getting a leg up. I understand it. I just don't find myself thinking man, I wonder if signs stealing was the reason why this game went this way. Even though we did have those kinds of conversations in this last this last playoff bout. I just. It's always been a sport to me that guys whether it be the Rosin bag, or you know, a substance on the ball or pine tar on the bad side. It's always been a sport. That is bending the rules just enough that it's allowable or understandable. Where in other sports any any part Tissot patient in any kind of cheating is is at Monash not so in baseball. So I've always kind of been like a, you know, you're damned if you do damned if you don't kind of for me when it comes to sign stealing and other ways of cheating and baseball. I'll see exactly how much it actually has an effect on teams or whether we'll just be hearing about the increasingly secretive manipulative ways that teams are doing it versus the traditional ways of stealing side, and Jason golf. We also talked to Tim Kirk about how Machado's deal might put some some steam into the Harper deal and get that done more quickly, and where he might go and for how much Tim was pretty honest that it's still up in the air. You know, everybody's hearing Phillies, but there's still a chance that a team might come in. And sneak in. And take Harper out from under the Phillies BUSTER only was on the baseball tonight podcast, and he talked about how the Harper deal is one hundred percent going to be tied to this deal Machado, just sign if you saw the face of Kenny Williams, or you heard the voice of Rick Hawn. And you know, how much pressure is on the Phillies ownership Scott after John Middleton in a made that comment about spending stupid money in the expectation of their fan base. The question is we move forward for me is okay. Which of these teams? Now, the Phillies are the White Sox gets emotional about pursuing Bryce Harper. Because of the disappointment about Manny Machado, which of these two teams stepped forward and said, you know, what if this point we're not gonna worry about the cost so much? We just wanna make sure where we get the player. And that's how I do think they're related. What do you make of that? You know, I do think that you have to be fiscally responsible. And if you're one of these teams in the reveal tax or the the tax threshold like the Yankees or the Red Sox of the cubs. You've pretty much told your your constituents your fans that is not gonna rock like that on the other side. I mean, Bryce Harper is generational talent. No matter how people feel about him and he's box office. That's the other thing that I think people need to bring into account when they talk about the Manny Machado deal when I give you ten years three hundred million dollars. It ain't just to hit a baseball. It's the sell seats. It's to be an ambassador for the team. It's it's to be anywhere. I want to watch. Hey and also in the community, right? I mean, you got to be a part of it. You can't just pull up in San Diego on the code is beach house and say, all right. This is where I'll be until I'm at Petco. So I don't think Bryce Harper is going to to to slight you in terms of value when it comes to that Bryce Harper getting more than Manny Machado, you you'd think he would if he waited to see how much he was going to be signed for. It's just you know, some some teams are able to do it. Some teams have kind of taken themselves out. For instance, the giants like Bruce Bochy says he's going to be done after this. Yeah. This is a hall of fame manager. Do I go to the sepsis? Go giants. If I know that the guy that I'm going to play for is not going to be there in one year. Yeah. Absolutely. We've heard according to reports that he's turned down a couple of different offers you for over three hundred million dollars. He knows that Machado said a record with the three hundred million ten year deal and the assumption is that Harper and his agent Boris would want a record that they would want a better deal than that. If Donald Khalil Mack all over again. Right. Right. Exactly. You set the market, and I'll beat it. Andy Martino of s and why the giants are still a real threat to land him and Philly faces a tough road to get a deal done thinking the Phillies get the job done if it was ten years three hundred twenty six million. It would have a bigger annual average value than Stanton and definitely tops Machado. I think you're right. I think he is worth the extra money because of box office because of charm, and I also think you and I disagree on how much you care about whether Machado is a guy who's got effort problems. You think that that's a throwaway? That deserves more context. I think that that would never come out of my mouth in any context. And that he proved that there are times when it is in practice as well in the World Series, not running out the one extra base hit. He could've had. I'm not saying he doesn't try. I'm not saying it as at work hard. I'm not saying this is overall vibe. But what I'm saying is we give someone a ten year deal. That already has a contract year said, I'm not a hustle guy then four or five years in if you're not winning. He wants to put on a couple of pounds. Not put the work in and coast because it lives on the beach and makes three hundred million dollars. That's. To surprise me. It won't surprise you. But I think also that's the worst case scenario best case scenario is he stays healthy for six or seven six or seven of those years. And of course. But when you make the deal, you're not thinking, well, let's just make this count on best-case. You also have to consider what the what the basement is all and you have to also consider what you are. Right. I if I'm giving him see the assurances that the White Sox did not want to give him where the final two years of that of that deal with all the played appearances that he would have to have which means that you have to be healthy. And you have to be at a certain level of play. What he did with the Padres. As a I know I'm gonna lose the first couple of years here because there's a terrific farms club is getting ready to come up here for entertaining. He's junior and all these other guys. So in order for me to get the money that I need I'll go through a couple of years of you know, Midland player losing from the team overall. And in the end, you're going to have to guarantee me some stuff on the back end. I just the Johnny hustle comment. I think yeah, he was being honest. I think that there's a lot of guys out there, and every sport and we've practice been around people before who put on the fake hustle when people are watching. And then when they aren't aren't doing the things that they need to do to win. I think in that instance. Yeah. Him saying it and then him being the guy that didn't run out an extra base hit as unfortunate. Is it a part of his character? We'll see in the long run. But I think in that instance, I appreciate the fact that he won called out guys who are the fake hustlers. To said, I'm not going to be that guy. I'm just going to play the best baseball. I possibly can. Yeah. Guess for me? The answer is don't be fake koffler. Just hustle all the time put the work in behind the scenes and put the working on the field because what are you lose? That's my opinion. I you could send us your thoughts on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at sarahspain at Jason one Gough at Spain and Fitz coming up the Steelers moving on from lady unbalanced Antonio Brown and their GM wants to make one thing clear in the locker room. We'll tell you next Spain and Fitz Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Goth with you. Bell is going to be gone. Antonio Brown is likely to be gone, and who will be left of the killer bees. Just Ben Rothlisberger. In agent quarterback. Who's got a pen shot for picks and doesn't seem to know how much longer he wants to play. But he SPN's Jeremy foul reports the general manager, Kevin Colbert or perhaps Colbert, I'm not sure if he does if he does then we Stephen Colbert does getting the cold air for now. I'm going to give him the pump. And I'm going to call them. Kevin there today, he called rothlisburger the quote, unquestioned leader of the locker rooms and that he has freedom to publicly criticize teammates if he sees fit. He's the elder statesman and the Super Bowl winter. Colbert told a group of local reporters on Wednesday, quote, if our players were smart, they'd listen to him because he's been there. He's done it. He can tell them. No guys. What you're doing is. Or is not good enough to do this. So let's start with Colbert is his name, by the way. That's a disappointment Colbert's thoughts on this this kind of plays into theory. You have that. Because big Ben's been around a while. And he's the quarterback. He gets a different set of rules, which is not uncommon in sports. It's not uncommon. But the way he's interacted publicly with the media in chastising or put pointing out the mistakes of his fellow teammates is uncommon and I'll say this. You know, I come from the school of what's understood doesn't need to be said. So when I hear that that means that either somebody in that locker room to hear it or more importantly, and I think more alarmingly Ben Rothlisberger needs to hear that. Because his his whatever has been shaken by the Tonio Brown. Comments Levy on bell not being there. You know, him buddying up juju Smith Schuster. I'm sure has been something that has rub Antonio Brown the wrong way. And also he's got the cover of Antonio Brown. Acting like a madman on on Instagram and social media as of late, and of course, Levy on bell not playing the entire season. I think Ben Rothlisberger has kind of flown under the radar when we talk about the the. Culprits in the the the devolving of this situation in Pittsburgh. This is one of the cities and franchise what the greatest infrastructure and all of a sudden in the last two years. It's all come falling down having been Rob's. Berg is a little bit more to do with this than we've been giving credit for. Yeah. I would not at all argue with you on that. I think the problem is is that if you are going to call out teammates publicly and do it in a forthright way. It's not a positive. Oh, isn't it will potentially create drama, but the way that those players react to it can either exacerbate the situation or they can come out and say, you know, I wasn't particularly pleased with Ben calling me out by name. We all gotta be better. We all want to win right versus imploding, in a way that negatively impacts them significantly more than Ben. And he's the one who potentially started it with the comments, right? I think that Big Ben absolutely finger needs to be pointed at him at MAC Thailand at the Steelers organization in general, but it's arguable that bell and Brown have not hand. Ruled themselves particularly well over the last couple of years, and what's interesting to me about it. Antonio Brown is a lot of people pointed the guy he's been before the last couple years right before right around when he started by filming the periscope video in the locker room, and then complaining about the media, but arriving in a helicopter and all that stuff. I don't think that means as soon as he's out of there. He's going to go back to the guy who was around early in his career. He reminds me of Jimmy Butler guys that were very very hard working prove it guys hunger, not drafted high who suddenly become max players who are very highly regarded, and that changes them, and I don't know that either one of them can ever go back to being the try hard guy that everybody remembers and says is in there somewhere. And that's the thing to nobody had anything to say about his effort until of course, him missing the practice and then him missing the final week of the season Antonio Brown. You don't amass the numbers that he's a mess by not playing you know, when you're he's not one hundred percent off. He's been hurt over the last few years, and he's still suited up and played. He's got what the number one ranking in yards reception and touchdowns for wide receivers since two thousand twelve I believe it is. So he's put up those numbers because he's been a terrific player, and he's been available. But the the the issue is and like you mentioned he is not handled this well, but the issue for me is if a guy if a guy's doing things in the background, but his handling himself publican publicly in a way that you know, we respect and then another guy who the message the message could be the message, but the messenger is probably flawed in. Antonio Brown comes out and says, this is what's really going on y'all. Yeah. You might you might get mad at him for telling, you know, telling tales out of school, but in the same breath, you got to look at some of the things that he's pointed out Ben Rothlisberger has intimated retirement. The last couple of years. He's turned the ball over a ton over the last couple of years. And in the end, you know, this is a guy who he's got his own issues. Now at Tokyo. Ben Rothlisberger didn't make Antonio Brown. Get into a couple of domestic incidents. He didn't make Antonio Brown. Threatened to punch a reporter. And all this other stuff that he's eating arrested for speeding all these other understanding, not a free agent executives at Tampere, exactly exactly. He's a flawed. He's a flawed messenger. But after the messenger goes away, whether it'd be severed Cisco Houston wherever he goes, you may still have an internal problem in that locker room, and I don't think Kevin Colbert Colbert or Colbert, I should say coming out and saying that Ben Rob's burgers, the unquestioned leader the team. Well, everybody understands that especially after you got to personalities like that out of the locker room who going to challenge that. Right. I don't. I mean, I think right now. Absolutely, right. It's not going to be juju. He's too young. There are other people. But I think the line if our players were smart, they'd listen to him as crazy sounds like a threat. It sounds like a warning. And then rothlisburger is a guy who has not been well liked in a lot of places that he's been right? And I'm not gonna speak to the. Last few years in Pittsburgh because it's been muddy in there. We don't exactly know whose side everybody is on. We do know that he is a part of the conflicts that go on there. But earlier reports stories about him throughout his life. He is not a guy that everybody sides with or thinks this particularly genuine, and certainly has had some serious issues, not the least of which are multiple rape accusations. So for this to be the guy that your ride or die for even as you watch things burn around, you that may be the core problem that's gone on here is we're searching for it to be bell and Brown now that being said there are ways to handle this better than bell and Brown have. So that they came out looking better than they have. And that's the issue here. And I mentioned it when we were talking to Sandow about this. How much teams are going to take into account bell sitting out a whole year and making it feel like even if it's not the case it was all about the money and never about how much loves football or what he owes a team when he's on a contract with them. And then Brown seeming almost detached from reality. In that. He doesn't understand that. He doesn't have any say over where his destination is going to be teams can't call them because that's tampering. You're not gonna start yelling about guaranteed money. If you wanna make yourself a something that teams are going to wanna go after. So they aren't helping themselves. Even if they are the root problem for sure. Oh, yeah. I don't I hope this isn't being misconstrued as me letting Antonio Brown Olivia on bell off whatever hooked that they need to be on. But also, I think the question to Sarah is what is the atmosphere that foster this kind of a vibe this kind of going going about your football life, right because let's face it. Ben Rothlisberger has also been chided for not coming into training camp in the best shape as well. For the last few years. Like, there's a lot of things I think that has been festering that has been covered up by ten win seasons. In the moment. They make the playoffs. All of a sudden, you know, Mike Tomlin's clock management and practice management and and also discipline disciplinary situations a lack thereof come to the light. Like all these things come pouring out. And I don't think. It's a coincidence. So whether it's Mr. Rooney, whether it's Mike Tomlin, whether it's been Rothlisberger one of those three if not all three of those guys probably should should you know should chop this off immediately. But it festered, and it turned into a catch that they can't control. And now they've the going lose to all pro type talents. And I think it's kind of cutting cutting you off despite your face because if you think James Connor and juju Smith Schuster arts to the level of those guys either you've been doing outstanding drafting, which we know the Pittsburgh Steelers have been known to do or your spinning the wheel a little bit too often that you could replace guys that that that you might come up short with. And we we've we've had to adjust our expectations for Rothfusz, burgers tenure. Because at one point felt like this is gonna be it. And now who knows every year, he's sort of his honest, which I don't blame him for that. It does put the team in a difficult position. But he is honest in saying, I don't know how much longer I want this. I'm gonna let you know when I decide right? He's allowed that at this point in his career. But if you look like. To rights their right? Look like plate like it. Then it'd be like, I am busting my ass. Every time, you know in the off season, I'm eating Brown rice and broccoli and Sanford. Sanford makes defend him and say he is not fat. He is putting on that that kind of shell or layer to protect against getting hit because he's not a mobile guy. And he's going to go down like a skyscraper. Which is as love. But turned says how he runs he looks like a skyscraper with legs. But so I don't know. But in the end, it'll be interesting to see what's left of the Steelers team. And how they go forward. And whether we've dug out the the cancer the cancer remains in his being called new the head of the of the team the leader of the team ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. All of our guests on the shell Pennzoil performance on straight ahead. Is this an honest injury report or TM, I talk about it next. Spain and Fitz and Fitz on ESPN radio at the espionage app and siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain was always Jason gov. Filling in for fits who's going to join us in about fifteen minutes with go Joe from Cameron indoor getting Duke UNC go Joe golick junior. I did not know that was his nickname believe it started with the lebatardshow like with stugatz. But it's just a much faster way than always winning junior has junior been Joe before no go lick and then and then Joe like junior just rhymes with go. But go junior because there's no there's no shortened way of junior. But then you change it up, though, the change the whole vibe of his name. It makes me think there's a Joe at the end of his name. It's just hard to say my junior every time. It's just too long. It is it is. And the building by the way, they got through security, which is step one for anything that they send fits to do on Jehad's with them where he gets sent to an event, and he just outside and he's like, well, it didn't work out with the passes that was supposed to get. So I'll just be out here. A little talk to them to say it was gonna profile because of his sleeves. I think I think that's what it is. That's either that or he did something bad there. Once when he was on never know did use to shower and public restrooms and public showers without any shoes or socks. So that's problem. It's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. Two quick funny stories the first one involving John Tortorella the blue jackets head coach our pioneer and former Blackhawk is now potentially on the trade bloc, and he's sick. And so Twitter. Ella was trying to explain to reporters that he's really sick. And they're not just stashing him hoping. He doesn't get hurt. Well, a trade goes through and people weren't buying it. So he really had to get his point across sick not eating puking. He wanted to go into tire tread as far as what happened today with him. So we can get that speculation done with his far as that. He's going to be moved. His pants. He was puking. He was doing everything. So. All right. So you said, you don't even think it's true. You don't think? Golly. Drawers are don't. I think I think towards got mad at at the line of questioning, and he he was done with it. And you know, people are sitting there like, okay? I don't believe you. So what do you do when somebody who doesn't believe you? Go hard you go even harder than your need to. And I guess, you know, going number two is is going as hard as he possibly could. I shout out to him. I do not believe it happened though. I don't percents leave it how. Yeah. I don't think you air out someone's dirty laundry, and I mean, literally dirty laundry unless they do it. I don't think it's going to be particularly happy about yelling about him hooping his pants unless it's a thing that happened. He's still not going to be happy. Then it got out there. But you know, I'll tell you. I've been on the toilet puke in between my legs wealth. Things are coming out the other end when it gets that bad. You don't even care anymore. You're just like listen, this is what's happening. And I just gotta get through this. I don't even care. What's happening right now as long as it ends at some point. And that's probably what Pinera's going through. I don't blame him for saying. Listen, you guys aren't going to buy this unless I really really really convince you, and then I'm going to open up the full details, and you know, in hockey, it's usually upper body lower body this time, he was like you're getting real detail. No more ambiguous injury reports are goal at you know, what happened. I want to know what the man was eating too to cannot help that. Usually, you can get yourself a warning some whole wheat bread. Maybe he's a multi grain action get as much stuff going in there as possible to kind of clean up, maybe some roughage. But if you're sick on top of you kinda know that you can't trust certain things to right. Like, you're not just going to be walking around letting Iraq. And then thinking, oh, I gotta go. I make a pit stop here ankle shell suze like he should have been on high alert at all times, you're talking about the brat diet, right? You got the brats bananas rice applesauce tone things you're eating. I'll tell you. What I got some sort of food poisoning out my way from Portugal to Hawaii in September, which is not a direct route. And definitely don't recommend having back. Back vacations in torch, village know, why aren't completely opposite time street when I picked up I picked up some sort of thing at the Newark airport. Probably shouldn't have eaten sushi there. It is a massive two million dollar build. But maybe still not the spot for it and newer, and I was I was on a boat. I was in a variety of places where I still was like let me scout out where the restroom is Anita know exactly how long it's gonna take to get there. Because there's going to be a very little warning going on here. And I'm surprised he didn't have that scoped out already. You know, our friend our buddy at ESPN one thousand Mark Silverman. Sylvie once talked on the air about on his wedding day. He's sitting in a hotel room relaxing couple of hours before. Yes. To get ready, and he played a little fart roulette knee lost. So maybe Panara and was like, no, it's just a toot and just to know know in there. Oh, of course, I don't trust any man who who hasn't been there, you gotta know. I don't play roulette. I don't take chances. Kind of like when you sleep number of show, you it's kind of like you sleep number. You gotta know exactly. How much Clinton gotta do. I haven't discarded sleep number. Yeah. Pressure being applied this. I know this feeling this is a four hundred need to go straight to a toilet. Oh, yeah. You know, if you if you're lifting one and not the other, you know, exactly what handle something might have a mean chinks. I'm just sound. So okay, I garden expert on this. Oh, no. Discarded a shirt on. I ninety four an old shirt. Get on there. Well, I didn't have anything, you know. Oh, no. I had. I was on a date. I didn't wanna miss no user. I another shirt. No, no. I just I didn't wear it up. All right. Okay. Moving vince. There's Bannon base in Gough pooped in a lot of places. But in my car's not one on I pulled over pulled over behind like little garbage, dump cool. It all out on the nose. The way the site is soft asserts. Oh, get that to play shirt Steph. Curry was partnered up with Jimmy Fallon before the all star weekend and Jimmy told him to sneak in a couple of phrases into some of his press conferences, let's see if you can pick out which things Steph curry was told to say we love Steph curry here. So a couple of weeks ago, we asked him to try something fun. We gave them three weird phrases and estimates sneak them into the interviews. He did over all star weekend. The phrases. He had a sneak were energizer bunny. Flipping pancakes and when bam can of ham. No, one knew that we were going to do this Thursday morning to now just kind of try to get as much as a kid to be like the energizer, buddy. Between San Francisco that's down on the ground Thursday morning for like I've been run run. Crazy. I gotta be energizer bunny this week. We'll try to get to it. All we've been having these these competitions since we're kids as we flip pancakes young Charlotte from the time I picked up a basketball new like shooting loose was kind of second nature flipping pancakes. The last one it just look from the time. I left a hand. And I was like why am back in hand. That's going. I love that. He closed that prison, ma'am. Damn cana- him. My said doubling up just leaving. No doubt. Right. Can do. No wrong that whole family, right? I mean, I should too. Underhanded one hand half court shot like she's just practicing all day for it. The curries just the American dream like top to bottom. They're all beautiful like painfully beautiful like Dell's the only like normal looking one and he's six foot, seven rain. All right, right. Right. Idea though, like I feel like I'm going to be back on a round the Horne on Friday. I'm wondering if maybe we should solicit from our listeners some sort of word or phrase that I need to try to get into one of my answer. So go to the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at sarahspain at Spain and Fitz, Jason one golf, I'm gonna put it up there and respond to my tweet. Let me know what phrase or word I should try to get into one of my answers cannot purchase the horn. Yeah. Of course, you can listen, it's gotta be something clean. This is the Disney show, national Elvis. I'm not getting fired for you, guys know straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage on America's largest and most dependable four G T networks. I don't trust you Goff gestion. But I'm not saying for sure yours will be chosen should be chosen either. But you should do it for jas. You should do it for my son, so seven met your son. Well, well, you you'll meet them soon hopefully one day, but whenever he has to go. We do the giants thinki- song. Go giant, stinky? That one in for sure if the topic from ready giant, stinky when eggs book it coming up on Sunday and Fitz full body. Search complete and Fitz and Golic are in the building at Cameron indoor will join us next to talk about tonight's Duke UNC game and the game a horse. They played earlier who won financed Spain and fits their Spain. With you as always Jason got filling in for fits, forget, the tune in tonight for college basketball action is Butler battles Marquette presented by peleton, which is far better than an elliptical. Ellipticals are the worst. Don't add me. Coverage begins eight thirty pm eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN app. We talked about that last night. Do you agree? Ellipticals are the worst degree all its equipment is the worst. But peleton is out into cool. Peleton I like a treadmill roller show bike ellipticals our trash about role. No, aroma, sheen, rowing, machine's fine. It's like pretty boring, but it's it's good. And it's low in. Packed for people with injuries not lifting districts you into thinking, it's good for your knees. And then they lock out when you try to run on it 'cause you're not coordinated enough. And and you just give up and so they suck. It's definitely not user error Spain and Fitz. There's thing. Vulnerabilities coming out. Lillard made a some headlines in an interesting way kind of going against the norm of what we've seen in people are reading it very differently. In fact, based on the pre show meeting golfing. I seem to be reacting in reading what he said a little bit differently. But he did a podcast with the out. Who's Chris Haynes? He said the trickle down effect of what a trade request would mean for his colleagues is a big reason he isn't interested in forcing his way out of Portland. Now Portland's had a lot of success with him there. But they never can seem to get past a certain spot. They're sort of like the way the raptors have been in the east. So he says, I think a lot of people will tell you just because they go and win a championship. It was like, oh, we want a championship. And then they look back, and they're like man this happened because of that here's a little bit more of what he said with posted up with Christine's, a Yahoo sports podcast like this what happens to this. So then put in a different situation knowing the years have left in this game. He those probably six seven years of fighting trying to get over to you know, even. His heart. I don't want to take my position for granted. No. I think it it could be worse off of being worse. It's where I'm not valued to wear. You know, obviously, we all play to win a championship. Like, I want to win a championship are compete to win the championship. But you know, I learned this about so many other things I think a lot of people would tell you just because they go and they win a championship. Like, oh, we wanna championship. And then they looked back and they like me. This happened because of at this happened because of that like what my career is over them and know their relationships that I'm gonna have them not people who knew outside with him, regardless of I was at the top or controlled artist stuff that I did it the right way. I tell I read that as I don't want to sell out myself. Meaning my way of believing is that I'm gonna be loyal to the team. It'd be loyal to the fan base. And I'm not going to negatively affect all these other people, staff, teammates, etc. But trying to force my way to contract. I have agreed to I don't think he was necessarily passing judgment on others. But I know other people have said it sounds like he is criticizing those who choose to do this. The the mention of doing it the right way. I think sticks out to me because then that would that would imply that doing that the other way is the wrong way. Now, I will look into it that much I will say this though, there's less pressure on Damian Lillard than a person who goes to a championship ready team. And then they don't wanna championship. Now. All eyes are on you. And I'll ask this is Steph curry doing it the wrong way. Now, I know he didn't go to a different team. But he is part of a super team, and in if you don't believe that it will Draymond green comes to Steph curry and comes to Bob is knows kind of guys say. I'm going to recruit. Kevin durant? What you guys think? Then you're you're out of your mind. I just think the Damian Lillard is in a position where you can say those kinds of things because Portland isn't a threat to win the championship right eye. Lamarcus Aldridge lose. They're not. They're just now I'm saying about why why does that put him in a position to say this because you can say it in the back of your mind subconsciously? I know he wants to win every game. And he says he wants to win a championship, but Portland, the Portland trailblazers aren't going to be a threat to win a championship. And I think him being abreast of the league. And understanding the game the way that he does he knows that he knows that he's going out there giving his best effort, but he knows that the end of the day that they're not going to be. I mean, they were the three seed and got beat by the Anthony Davis lead pelicans that we're all, you know, crapping on these last couple of weeks or so so I think Damian Lillard understands the situation I think he also understands his personal inventory like some guys have different motivations. Like, he's he's the Weaver state guy. He's the guy who hurt himself in college and was little known as as as a prospect. And then he got drafted in the first round by. The Portland trailblazers and headed terrific career. Had a chip on his shoulder when he wasn't making all star game so incrementally. He has had goals that he has set for himself. And he's he's reach those goals. But I also I also think that he understands that in the back of his mind, he's not going to win a championship. Even though he's fighting as hard as he possibly can. Because to me is why it makes it easier for him to say, listen, we've done our best. We've put out the same thing every year, and it didn't work. So there's no pressuring leaving any wouldn't be criticized in the same way. Because it's exactly like the raptors where he's just we need. We need a fresh up. I think this will help the team as much as it does me total out on that. When you speak on it the way he spoke on it. As far as you know, hurting the team hurting everybody else. I mean, there's no pressure the he is Portland trailblazers basketball. So he can be there forever. And if they don't wanna championship he will be revered as one of the great Portland trailblazers of all time like somebody's got to be the nineties pacing because in the nineties Knicks. He doesn't have to be good enough to win. He isn't. He isn't. Guilted into saying you never brought us this because he's not enough level. But he's good nose to still be the face of it. And right, right. Like somebody's got an almost say Mitch Richmond. But like there's been guys in the nineties and the and the odds who who were very very good player celebrated players, but you knew that it was going to be hanging over their hair that they didn't win a championship. And then the other guys who were very good players. And you don't hang not winning a championship over the head. Because you never really thought that they were in position or could be the best player on trying to win a championship. I don't read it so much as he's giving himself. He he's in a position to be able to say this. And that's why saying it I think that this is who is no he's not he's saying it because of that. I think he can't say it. I think he had think he can say that. And mean it, but at the same time, they're like the pressure of winning a championship isn't on that Portland. Trailblazers? There's a lot of criticism for him in that team from having great regular seasons and not getting it done in the postseason. It's not the same. As maybe some other markets to me. This is just you can say, you're okay. Hey with it both ways, you're okay. With guys who say I want my career to be defined by victories. And it's not going to happen here willing to force myself out. I'm not a big fan of getting out of contracts early. That's just me. But I understand it in this case, I respect that. He cares about the ramifications of it. You know, there was Espy nation a piece on him where he talked about how he was upset when the Twitter account for the blazers tweeted a joke about a player that they had sent away and getting cash considerations. It was a minor deal and he sent a text to the team presidency. Oh, and he said he was upset because this player Tim quarter men's life had just been up rooted. He'd been sent somewhere else family was moved, and they considered it this thing that was a joke. And when there's a thing that I appreciate it. And that means that he's criticizing other people. He saying for me, it would be selling out me. And it would be doing the way the the things the wrong way for me to do it that way. And I think that's cool. No, I definitely believe he's one hundred percent authentic. But what I'm saying? Is he is in a position where that kind of pressure isn't on him. Right. Like, he's not under that James harden. Lebron James Russell Westbrook Steph curry pressure. He's g just not. And he's a terrific basketball player. And I love Dame time like I love the fact he's one of the more clutch ball is in all of the NBA. And the last two minutes of the game. There are very few people that I'm going to pick a head of him to to hit the game when he shot, but he's also I think his his front office the last couple of years has pretty much let it be known that they don't make a lot of moves during the trade deadline or in their off season to do anything with the team of, you know, obviously, the cancer move and all that other stuff this year. But there's there's kind of that almost they Malays around the trailblazers, but they're the plucky franchise that you like watching, but you know, is not going to contend for championship. And I think he operates in that space as well while being as authentic as you possibly can is he trying to win every game. I you bet you it. Does he want championship? I'm sure he does. But I also think us watching it. I take it a little bit differently because he's. Not underneath that kind of pressure season in season out space to say, that's different. Maybe other guys though. And I appreciate it. And I'm sure the fans do that's why it's so beloved there Sarah Spain and Jason Goff. I'm putting it up on Twitter right now. I've narrowed down the things that I might have to work into Friday's around the horn show, Steph curry, Jimmy Fallon style. It's it's just a flesh wound. Some of the lyrics to shallow betcha. Bottom dollar, and you don't get the show. I'm putting it up right now on the on the at sarahspain, one eight hundred flowers dot com vote on it and tomorrow, I'll be solo. And I'll let you know what wins thanks for being here gone tomorrow solo Spain, and then you get Butler Marquette right here right now on most ESPN radio stations, right after Freddie and Fitz Simons so stick around for that thanks for listening to Spain Vits and thanks to Gough for continuing to heal my broken heart as fits cheats on me lotta over again. So you.

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Melo's Return to NBA, Gronk Dances with Laker Girls, and More

Jalen and Jacoby

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Melo's Return to NBA, Gronk Dances with Laker Girls, and More

"Jalen and Jacoby worried about the strong profit. Did this week the jailing Anthony Rose. What up? Don't I'm David Jacoby. Cool Shaikh in centerstage though Mike putting it on wax. It's the news we are Jalen. Jacoby what is it that we do people yes they Carmelo Anthony. Did he play real basketball. We got Luca Dodge dominating. We've got a little deep dive in the warriors. Draymond green had something really interesting to say about that. And we have of course only female voicemail Carmelo. Anthony played professional basketball yesterday in the National National Basketball Association for the Portland Trailblazers Wearing double zero. Not only that Jalen. He started the game. Come on. You've got to start. Do you remember all all this talk about whether or not what his role was GONNA be accept. The role for fourteen played pretty well in a loss albeit lost against the pelicans Notre Dame Lillard for the blazers. What'd you think about Komo's debut and what it means for the Blazers and himself? I said this yes that I'm GonNa make sure I repeat it. The walls of the Portland Trailblazers Star in five and ten. Dan are not on Carmelo. Okay it's because they don't have and last night they didn't have Daimler So I'm happy that the blazers gave him an opportunity. He knocked down a couple of shots in pick and roll type actions. That's what he's going to be able to provide he pump faked at the three line. Made a nice mid range shot. The Lost Art of the mid range is something that he has mastered going it a best scores. The game game has seen but just as a future hall of Famer. I felt it was important to him for him to go out on his own terms. He has the opportunity Rinat. Return the Denver and get celebrated. Yes yes the opportunity to return to New York and get celebrated. He didn't get that because he got unceremoniously. The release basically bought a Houston Rockets and been out of the game so for that I was really happy. He was back in uniform me too because he's such an influential player. It's such a great person and he's going to the hall of fame. He's and he's part of that that famous draft class. I didn't want his to end after nine games with the Houston Rockets. The I want him to be able to go to Denver to come back to the garden to get the standing ovations and to get buck teeth. You'll have a game where he gets like twenty five twenty seven point. He will now yesterday today. He was minus twenty. And it's twenty four minutes. I don't like plus minus says this that I do not like plus minus is a stat. So a Lotta people minus twenty. He's the reason they lost forever. How do you feel about plus minus? This is a step. I feel like any statistic can be manipulated. And that's why I always make sure that analytics are part of the The analytics are a tool not the tool box and so when you look at the totality of what was happening out on the floor. There were times when he was guarding brandon. Ingram you know. Oh He is twenty one twenty two okay. He's on a dry path. A thirty five year. Old Defense isn't exactly strong. That's when he tried to driving drunk on Jackson look at that. Let's because this is my favorite part of the whole entire case. This is my favorite Jackson's knows a great shop income L.. And just just the idea that he was gonNA dunk on him off two feet like that just really made me happy what do you think of. The Duncan. Tell us the second quarter. He Ain't been in the League in the year. No so he lives in his best life really warm it up a little bit young quarterback the buses going but just think about it like this Jackson Hayes nineteen years old Carmelo Anthony Seventeen year in the NBA. That was a perfect example. No country foment as a really good shot o'clock at least the rim protector and he gets the more weight on him and get some more. NBA Skills but the idea that Carmelo anthony just to see the Jackson. Hey let's do this do. This does make a moment but when you roll to the WHO that feels like a great idea I'm telling you I've been old player. I tell you and I couldn't jump been an old player. Promise you it seems like a good idea. And then you're about to take off his nineteen year. Old Seven footer Boeing. Like this is not a good idea. Never got him feet no did they were usually. He's trying to go to the line. Check get highly of it. Well another player. Who's part of that draft casts Jumping by the name of Lebron. James just made history again. He had twenty five eleven and ten against the thunder in a win for the Lakers becoming the very first player in the history of the National Basketball Association to have a triple double against all thirty franchises in the league. What do you see see from King last night in the win long Javadi consistency durability professionalism and when I purchase a ticket usually to watch Lebron Lebron James play he shows up he plays Okay and for him to have triple doubles versus every team? That's remarkable nose up before for that that that is outstanding. And I know that he's going to look at the stat sheet. It'd be like I had seven turnovers But I look at the stat sheet and was thinking about this. The Bronco legitimately intimately average a triple double this year. He could look Lebron. Could Westbrook could like there's some players that could do it this year absolutely. It's amazing to watch him play with. Anthony Anthony Davis you notice that little pocket pass get it on the right wing. AD set slipped to pick boom layup. Oh fall to the free throw line. He he scored over thirty points. It was their sheer dominance. The lead their team to victory. I think one of the does get overlooked as Anthony Davidson's performances this year like he had thirty four four points seven and four thirty four. Seven four do you think the Anthony Davis is production is actually more important to the Lakers than Lebron James. Of course it is because we all know that Lebron Bron James can lead a team to a championship up but at this point of his career. He's going to need a young buck. Like Anthony Davis to not only be productive in the regular season season and make sure that they secure a nice homes. Nice home seating but also when the playoffs come that's going to be his chance to deliver this. This is why you leave the Pelicans to join the Lakers. So you could deliver on the big stage. Anthony Davis is doing that and you remember last year when Lebron was healthy when they were playing he looked around his team and didn't seem like he had a true duo. He had someone he could rely on the way that he can rely on Davis. I think that this was his plan all along like oh I think he planned to have Anthony Davis and the purple and gold with him like two three years ago. We talked about it on this program and when he switched ages the writing was on the wall. Talked about it on this program program. Going to the season continued to talk about it. All of a sudden he went to the office. Like you know Kimmy out of here when he left headed. That's all folks. Yeah I think he said someone laid out for my kids my own children who were four years old have more say over what they wear. The Davis according to Anthony Davis. Come on David David. That's all folks on here. That's crazy but the lead domino to that happening with the Lakers. Getting top number. Four Day was big for direct. Because if they don't get the Pelicans don't get Zion they now have to include Kouzmin in the deal deal which changes the dynamics of the current Lakers team? Of course so rob. Lincoln did a great job of being patient and also Frank Vogel. Aw defensive-minded you have so much. Height is so much size so many players that can protect room to Vail McGee Dwight. How're you're Anthony Davis? Now all of a sudden you put on a perimeter. Avery Bradley when he's helped him Danny Green who can play degree for so they have a complete basketball to you. Think Frank Vogel looks like me no I think I get it a lot shorter Joe. Cabbage hurts my feelings. was that a handsome man. He's he's just try. It is time for news the matter it's Jalen one thing that you are very proud of the various Jalen in the world of sports just in the world generally say when we're walking this result someone says like all. Oh my son is named Jalen and my cousins named Jalen like your mom created name and then it's really stuck in my father biological father. James uncle inner just had a birthday Earth Day yesterday. Happy Birthday uncle in. She combine those names thus gave Arnold a birthday yesterday. He alkyl doubt day for you. So you're not the only person that leaves a legacy with their name especially in the world sports. I want you to take a look at this list of names these are actual collegiate players named after rappers. We Got Mexico Cameron Ride Harvey and Mace said. Do Do do it again. So Jada his name Jada and he was born on the same anniversary the data had their first kiss. But that was the best Jalen. Would you name your your son. Jada rose possibly. There's a Ray Quan out there to football. Rake ones no doubt about it. Aw I appreciate those guys get celebrated in appreciate it for the work that they put into the game At how hip hop has become so the very mainstream that it basically walks hand in hand with what's cool and what's and what's not and so I appreciate all of those guys in their own right and I've been fans at each for really long time. You know what I'm a fan of all those I've never seen any of those people play whatever they play a fan if your name. Is Jana Kiss. I'm supporting no without the Golden State Warriors they were pre pre. Nfl Championship favourite seemed year after year. It was it was. It was the warriors of the favorites every year. And then Katie Leaves Klay gets hurt. CHECK-CHECK STEPH gets hurt dream on in and out of the roster and then all of a sudden this team which used to win every game it seems seems like they went out and played lost. Seven Straight Games. They finally beat the Grizzlies last night. But Jalen to watch this franchise move into a new arena and go from of a pencil into the finals every year to playing like this is just. It's too shocking to see what a league catches up with you. Quick and that's name some of those players out there. Pascal on a Villanova. You're involving Yup giving them good quality minutes Alec burks been playing really well and Glenn Robinson the third nephew been balling to twenty points in the Cauley Stein always like Willie Cauley Stein. Great painters will. Oh he's a painter. Yes you'd never know what you'll learn cocoon but just Lee catches up with you a homeless. You real fast. Yes and that's why as a player you can't try to always CLA- back when when somebody says something you don't like because winning three championships making it to file finals. Of course you're gonNA have your chest. dugout deserve to. They were super team but all of a sudden that Jersey looks a lot different based on. WHO's in them? We were comparing them to Michael. Jordan's bowls you remember. We're ready to doing that. And now we're looking get them like who are these guys again and loses seven straight games. I know Diangelo Russel have been playing well before a young team. Because that's really what they are. You trying to find who can be a part of the growth and still be on the squad when the big guns return. That's all this is a trial right now for all all of these players I also like how Steve Kerr told the media he was. This is reality. Well we've been doing the past few years that fantasy stuff this is actual NBA eighteen. This is how this works. You go out you compete you try to win and you lose more than you win and you mentioned about clapping back in that brings me to something that draymond green had to say about the sort of experience of being with the best teams to be one of the worst quote we put them down so they're trying to kick us while we're down to because we've put them down for years but we didn't have to take shots. Well they were down we just put them down so it's a difference. What is your friend trying to say? There he's basically saying that when they were a team to have four all stars I they were super team. Had it their way Now that they don't have that people want to come at him in particular because he's the one remaining guy still trotting troughton out there in that uniform so now opposing players ally. Okay no stuff no klay no Katie. Okay we'll try to give you some work and and so this year is going to test his professionalism in a lot of ways because as a fiery competitor and draymond green has always been winner and has always been a champion. I've been watching him since high school for years at Michigan State. He's always been a really competitive person he wants to win every play Don't matter if this team is up twenty or down twenty but the difference is when you're on a team that won three championships versa. Team had just lost seven out of eight. You're not the benefit of the whistle. So it's GonNa be interesting to see how his relationship with the referees plays out over the rest of the season what do you think he means like. Oh we just put them down but they want to kick us when they're down like how does that manifest itself in the things people say things people do against what is flash brothers shooting from everywhere lights out once they get going now all of a sudden those guys on the floor and people seeing that member one you your your owner said you were light years ahead of the rest of the League catching up this year and this is our chance to quote unquote like you say kick you when you down. Well one of the players they did. Add this off. Season Diangelo Russel. Who's been an lineup in Digital Russell? Interesting to say about the decision to play in Golden state quote. I did my first winter in New York and that was tough so to get the opportunity to go somewhere where it's warm again. I think that played a major part in my plan. I remember. He was traded there. But but Jalen people talk about this. All the time weather and the basketball players don't WANNA go to places like Minnesota Milwaukee. Is this a real consideration like do players. There's actually considered weather when they decide where they're going to play a love Diangelo Russel. Lucky lefty how much money did he get paid to play basketball. Does this off season hundreds of millions. Okay he would have been anywhere to get that. Don't get it happened that he ended up in with the warriors and by the way he got traded. Yeah but he does business history. You know what I mean. Thought it'd make a decision to go there now. He got one hundred million dollars to play. Take less money to play for a team like Niagara. No that's a playoff milwaukee or several going anywhere where the money's the best. I don't believe you I don't believe you j let me tell you what I'm not doing. Two words you said taking less soon as you said those two words Ed what you said after that. Okay well I remember a Jalen. Rose went to play for the Phoenix Suns. That's right and the Phoenix Suns. We're really really good. Good so would you take less money to try to ring chase. They'll actually you didn't chase every case did not just about weather if you're if you're into your career. Would you take less money to plant champion contender. I went to Phoenix because they had the back to the vet. MVP Steve Nash All NBA Amari. uh-huh all-star Shawn Marion. They we want sixty seven games. Day Year I was trying to get a chip. That's what I was trying to do to Robert Tori Steve Nash into the war and derailed my entire situation. I hate the coming off the bench absolutely hit his case by case evaluation. To decide whether you're trying to trying to instigate immuno increase the fight or not. I hate that. I'll tell you something funny that I did after the game was a I got a lot of DMP EMP stay here After that game a newborn's deal. Numerous Donmar get suspended. That's what I was doing gets ready to. 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Well here's the number one Implication is that the more games he misses during the regular season. Unlike last year plan in an Eastern Conference to twenty one games. He missed me was seventeen in four when he did not play he joined a Toronto Raptors team that was basically Furton with the number one seed the last couple years in that conference but now he's in the West and won a championship in the West. With the San Antonio Spurs however season in is a marathon out there and the more games you ultimately end up miss- missing it hinders their opportunity to host homecourt. Yes versus certain opponents. This wasser earlier in the year. Don't be surprised if the two best teams Lakers and clippers. Don't face teach other in the western conference final that could be et CETERA. And you talk about home court advantage when they're playing the Lakers. They don't have home cornish whether they're the home team or the awaits correct in that building. That's going to be elite crowd all the time and they're nine and five. Now you remember after that very first game putting the League on notice the clippers run L. A.. They haven't they haven't played up to expectations since then. How much that you think is because of Paul George being quiet health? Well both but the one thing that we felt like would be their calling cards defense and they haven't been locking down like you anticipate when you see all of the guys on their team that are capable defenders. They have not been defending the way that they can and they should so Jalen. You know that you've got certain guys in the League that that you love. There's a guy in the league. I love under celebrated person the casual NBA fans. Don't even know what this person exists. That is my Guy Sacramento King Bugden. But but Donna and he had a coming out party last night my guy bogged and had thirty one points extremely efficient thirty one points. Here's why I love Bogdonovich pitch doesn't turn the ball over. Always make the right decision very efficient. Shooter just doesn't do anything wrong. He's he's a coach's dream. I Love Bogdan. Do you think the kings things have kinda turned it around after their slow. Start Your an amazing dad terrific. Disrespect me no because what ends up happening is when you love somebody like last like the joker. Just die easy. How you love so many people you overlook something overlooking looking six turnovers? That's fine. Don't turn the ball. He doesn't listen. Jalen rose I've been following Bugden for like three years now higher career because he had turnovers last night that he's a turnover prone guard because he is not he doesn't make the fancy play. That's one I think I don't like about Harrison. Barnes played good minutes for them last night. Swim another guy that the world would know Sean. Homes starting to center play quality minutes. Luke Walton is doing a terrific. Perfect job is getting. This team turned around after a slow start. We always felt like they would compete for the eight CD. Think they still will. I think they will. I think a handful not are in that conversation. That didn't make the playoffs last year. And we'll have a chance to make dishes. They fall into that category. The King of those teams. We'll see where they are around the trade deadline. They might make a move. They might make a move to try to make a push all right. We spoke about the Lakers. They had a win yesterday in the staple center but the real action was halftime. Jalen rose I want you to see who joined the liberals as none other than Venus Williams with the choreography out the whole thing. If he's not alone also join laker girls. We haven't got in in Carmel. Gronkowski learning all the choreography. James Corden my question for you. Jalen rose is this. How long would it take? You learned the choreography. Because that's lewisite through longtime that would grop was doing probably take me our what's Jalen. I'm alleged this machine records the things that you say and broadcast them all over the world. So you're trying to tell me that you can learn that choreography and how long how our our you Wanna put that to contests. Nick dances could use some help. Sure you'll dance at halftime with the Knicks. Dance to love it when you say stuff like this and you know we're GonNa make you know. Oh I don't like right now I'm already drafting email my head I'll get the Pistons to Jalen. I want you out there with the Knicks city dancers. We're GONNA make that happen record for the show count. I love it when you say things. Like that. And I'm microphones. And that was obviously a great for the fans as he gronkowski out out there and Venus Williams and James Corden but the fan favorite Lakers Lebron James. It's not Anthony Davis Casey P none other than the legend. Alex Caruso Caruso got a mural in Los Angeles my mic Caruso has a mural where he's dunking on all the major players in the western conference. Murray hardened Leonard Booker Luca all fallen victim to Air Caruso First Audette Muros cold. It really is whoever did as well done That's a plus shoutout to them and I'm glad we get a chance to Jisi. Jr Junior sure we giving you love on our program. Don't bureau with with that being said take off on all of them. Do you think if Alice crews will had a full head of hair. People would love him too much. I really think that that helps them. I think in the same way that people associate your hairline with you. People associated his hairline with him and it makes them more relatable and likable and also there was a movie about this call. All white men can't Joe Athletic and so when you see somebody that can You WanNa make sure you celebrate Jelly we gotta get you a mural they'll get you a mural we're going to be considered a corporate MSG we'll get your religious writing today. I can't believe you agree to either animal. I can give you an hour to prepare to. They get one hour to prepare the choreography and you'd be dancing in the middle of MSG. I cannot wait for that really make that happen. I've never been more excited for the program. Besides this jalen jailers exclusive home of updates on a few players like Lamelo ball our guy. Jay Z's nephew. Now's this Carter. Remember where you heard about Nas Carter I. Because he's about to be a national sensation. Do you know what does I do. Do you know what he did last night I do. Now it's quarter multiple all domestic. JC here he goes here. Was this you ready for this. Oh this one's my favorite. You know what he did to the competition. What what he do ether? He threw the competition. And this is a windmill a two foot windmill in a game against main Jalen. Why do so much I mean literally just showed seventy five percent his points last night? Yes if he's we will show. We will always always always always give you the latest on US Carter Jay Z's nephew high flyer four Washington got a cold name. I love it is now time for soft move or boss. Jj Watt Man of the people. You Know Likable Guy. He's all social media media and he did something very interesting. He put his telephone number out on twitter. So people could reach out to him directly giving out your phone number your actual phone number on social media software. That's the kind of boss move down for. No I think about your phone number right now do that please. Don't I appreciate that Eh. He wants to interact with fans. You know what we should do this. Just call them. I texted him. Hit Him All. I texted him. You'll never believe is awesome. I asked him the boss of money to his is number sate. Let's say his number. Is he get questions you know. I don't like follow questions. The boss move. He wants to build a second. He got back to me. What's going on JJ? I know what you're thinking. This has to be an auto techs. You're right I too. I Yeah I mean you got you got this one Jalen rose love leagues have random drug testing right. Well Levy it'd be on. Bell is saying that through ten games. He has been randomly selected five times in ten weeks for Ach Blood Tests Jalen. Do you believe that league's randomly select players when they drug test if you've been tested five times and ten weeks that ain't random no that's harassing awesome are harassed is that that's what that feels like to me. It's unfortunate in theory that they seem to be single and him out in the league that has fifty to fifty three players on the roster in his thirty two teams. Yeah I'm not going to do fifty times thirty to six hundred. Yeah about sixteen hundred players. You're gonNA tell me that. He randomly selected by times in ten weeks. You remember last year and Eric Re was randomly selected a few times when he played so. I'm going to ask you. Do you think that they do not randomly select the actually select. Who is going to be drug tests? Well I under this premise have to believe that the latter is taking place Okay okay because it ten weeks five test does it does seem excessive. How often were you tested in the NBA? Well the rules changed aged. Okay at first. You only got tested in training camp unless you in the system in once you get into system they can random tests you later later in my career. They started to implement the four random tests throughout the year And you could get upwards before but you might only get one so it it just depends that seems to be more random than five tests. Let's say we let's say you were tested like twenty times. How many did you pass? One hundred percent moving on with sixteen points in six assists in tonight's game lasagna's can become the fifth player in NBA history. To average a triple double over a ten game span. Other players are Lebron James Russell Westbrook Michael Jordan and Oscar Robinson. I want to remind everybody this man manage twenty years old Jalen rose. What is it about him that makes them so successful in the NBA? So quickly versatility. His pace he never seems to to get sped up. I really liked that bottom. He has unlimited range finish at two using overconfident. And you mentioned at twenty years old. I'll hear still getting triple doubles and I said this the other day when I was watching him play. Seems like it's easy work. Yes you'll see like overextended himself in any way shape before he's plays within himself and he has a lot of confidence it seems like the game slows down for him a little bit like he never seems to be pressed and he seems very comfortable when he has the ball even in traffic even driving to the hoop shooting over biggs and playmaking for others. Now you know I've said before. I think that this team with this dynamic duo will win a championship not this year not next year but soon but I also say this is they need to get more complementary players around him kristaps. My question for you is what type of players would best complement. Those to the next level for this team is to have a another all star in particular on the wing because all of these guys come to town on a nightly basis upon James Kevin Durant Koala Leonard. Paul George Use is my play against those Gaza. Make those guys work so I think that wing spot something it'll be trying to add and you can always use big bodies on the interior. Okay we're talking about the Dallas Mavericks and we always talk about hip hop culture on this show. It's sort of the impact hip hop culture has had on society. And how over years it just seems like every year it's more and more welcomed into the mainstream but that's a good thing but it's not always a good thing I want you to look at the mavs jerseys. Okay Jalen rose. What do you think of that Maps Jersey with the graffiti lettering? I'm not as mad at it is you seem to believe at it because I love hip hop and I appreciate graffiti a fee so very much it teams where alternate uniform. They probably have ten different uniforms. I'm not mad at that. Being one of the. I think it's Corny. I think that is corny uniform idea. Let's make it hip hop let's get some graffiti and there is going to be so cool and the kids are GonNa love it like no no no just just make it Brady. The Uniform Brooklyn Credit. Try to do something like this. It's like you can make an alternate uniform just making a different color. You know what I mean. We don't have to make make graffiti mural. That says maths mavs aren't Nahmad at it. I'll mad at it. Required online physician consultation only available at the physician determines restrictions appropriate so Full details the safety information. Eight guys canoes. The outrageously expensive little blue pill is now generic which means you can get the prescription medication to treat e at affordable prices and hence makes it extra affordable. You pay just thirty bucks for a month supply and right now get your first on my doctor's visit totally free when you go to forum dot com slash. ESPN five. That's right free. Three zero copay. 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If you want to discuss the topic you hit the brakes. If not me in the manager of the minivan and keep it moving. Are you ready Mr Rose. Let's get it okay. I I have some nice hit the brake news under your hit the brakes on that one Nasir Jones better known as Nice became quote Voice of Hennessy to empower. HP See you students. Hennessy has a ten million dollars scholarship though initiative for African American students. That's does have a question for you. Hennessy doing more help or harm for African American collegiate student. You said they bring it out the checkbook. Then you say scholarship and million dollar any attached to this is terrific as somebody who's philanthropic himself itself And really passionate about educating young people. I'm happy to DC to partner up to try to do something special and I must say this about athletes it's an MC's entertainers. I love to watch him graduate. 'cause I remember chip to Nas Yup on the live at the Barbecue Yup you know talking about snuffing somebody Yup and then to now see his evolution as a businessman and philanthropic is great to watch and also so just the the evolution of the lyrical content. Because you know you listen to ill matic. It's not exactly the most uplifting helpful you know tales from his neighborhood going classic classic. Is that album quick question for you is Tennessee. Cultural Regional Cultural. Hennessy is cultural cultural little. John was detained at a Vietnam airport. Report keep moving or hit the hit the brace little John was on tour and he was attained at the airport because he had to declare his jewelry he was wearing hundreds of thousands of jewelry. Look Vietnam hemmed up over my icy shaking my head but Jalen rose. Here's what happened. Look at all that jewelry. They told him at first that he had to leave the jewelry there. No for it to be appraised they would let him go but they would leave. The jewelry told you that you had to leave your jewelry in a different country. But you know what would you do. Now what would you know you like. You're very calm. You're very kind. You're great all the people around us but when you get upset you get upset if you get upset about but but it also allows me to continue to make sure our plot our military and appreciate the freedoms that we are as Americans in our country. Sometimes you do travel abroad and you forget that you could sometimes take it for granted and four hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry. I would not be comfortable wearing four hundred thousand dollars worth anything. I would not be making no. I don't have a single article clothing. That's over like five hundred dollars. The first of all you said I will. Yes you will you talk about Christmas rich. I see what's happening avenue. Here's C.. You Walk in a slick Rick Kit. No no you know me better than that. I missed it Kinda wear watches. Jalen were different. The movie we have some news about Brett Brown. It'll bring much else. backout keep moving or hit the brakes keep moving for now okay. We'll keep moving. We keeping Komo Lamelo ball had to. Hey I know you're gonNa hit the brakes on his. He told bleacher report. A swear to God I can be an NFL quarterback Jalen rose. Do you know who the quarterback for the Lions is currently starting Jeff Driscoll Jeff Driscoll would you rather have Jeff Driscoll Star alliance or Lamelo Ball be honest Carmelo. Mansaray Colin Kaepernick. Okay let's see what you did there. Yeah I won't call it. A cabernet wanted to eighteen to win. Washington workout Lamelo ball great distributor. Tall tall that's important. Great Passer Great Vision Crafty. I could see him being quarterback. I gotTa Get one in a shares Colin Kaepernick with rock. And it was. Don't don't get fired hard. We have important Vermont Basketball News keeping moving their hit. The brakes hit the brakes. They have a shot clock. Oh Yeah Anthony. Lamb scored seventeen straight points against Virginia. Again seventeen straight points now. That's work. Did they win the game. No but Virginia only because up about forty points. A game. Seventeen straight was the most consecutive points. You've ever scored in a game. I'm not sure I really don't know any level. I'm not sure I do. You remember being an eighth grader for precious blood and we've playing against Jay Zoo at a Christmas tournament and I think we had like forty five total. Oh two points. I have forty five down because I retired. That's probably going to happen to the roads. We have have something that we don't usually have on the program. A hockey highlight give him over to hit the brakes. Hit the brakes. I want you to take a look at Marc Andre few as he robs this this goal Lewis Bull diving. Save right there. Jalen rose really impressive. Now I've seen you attempt to ice skate. If you were to play hockey you can only be the goalie pads and let me take shots at you. Know because that puck is that puck Izhar. Yes a hurt. Yes and also trying to squat my six eight self inside of a net will be heard gonna be living. We spent a lot of time together. Right we walk around New York City a lot sometimes when the lights. You'll countdown from like three to what and you have to cross the street. It does not look good. I feel bad like we should just. That's why the cars won't hit you. What just knees all broken? I wasn't a part of low management phase of my career we have new college football rankings. Thanks giving or hit the brakes. We'll keep it moving for now. Lsu Ohio State Squad yes no. The top seven teams didn't even move Jalen ranch ranch dressing new brakes. Oh hit the brakes on that. You Know Hidden Valley ranch some of the best ranch out there. Let me some ranch put ranch on everything ranch. On Pizza. Ranch Ranch Rancho. They have a Christmas stocking. That is the shape of a stocking yet. It is fifty two ounces of ranch dressing. Are you interested in a stocking rocking full of ranch. Dressing one cookout. It'd be gone to what one 'cause people you haven't over. The cookout houses announces fifteen people was the weirdest thing you've put ranch dressing on the weirdest thing Sometimes I dip fries in it. Your pizza in it like Pepperoni Pizza. Do you have device Friday. So here's the cool ranch delicacy. This is why ranches so clutch. Because you put it on things just because it's available yeah just is to try to put it on putting a drink anything makes everything better at keep ranch in the fridge. Keep rant in in the fridge. Yes yes okay good. Sometimes you keep things outside the fridge. I don't what about las in the fridge in the door the fridge I have one specific shelf on the door. The Fridge Justice Surro- various hot sauces. Served me my wife go back and forth on. I wanted outside of the free very viscous and it gets in the fridge gets a little too. Who Biscuits to your viscous means no okay moving a happy out of nowhere? I mean we have a new delicious Thanksgiving Delicacy Kassi even moving to hit the brakes header. Break pringles is releasing a special can of pringles flavor of roasted Turkey Erkki. It sounds good. Are you into Rosa Turkey. Flavored pringles. I'm into I'll try to if you notice I cut down my chip consumption. There used to be heavy into the chips. AP's better made on better made on better made you had a full box like a television box. You had chips all over the place. Ito Ito was much even either. I'll tell you why. Yeah well going to the dentist or they say it hurt to sit Najeh Phil. We are very close to Thanksgiving. Have a couple of updates number one. We're going to a restaurant. You love the restaurants cleaning no leftovers. No cooking now keep the house. Clean your rich. I love it so much number. Two Turkey's the most overrated part thanksgiving. I can do Thanksgiving dinner without. Pass the Turkey easy so easy so that's controversial. No that that is really contracts. Should but I can easily do Thanksgiving and not not having ounce of Turkey hat him. This is one man speaking for two of Jalen rose. So here's the thing you may not notice. I don't like white meat. I love white man so I'll do the Turkey legs. Oh No oh no will you go to like a fair and eat the Turkey leg. No don't don't say you will. I used to know the people so gross corn dogs so grow all of the little sticks inside every time I see a Jerry Lewis sticks on one of those. You're not going to finish that. You Know How many times on aligns in their sick for the staff so many times. I Love Turkeys how many times I brought the staff Never you know what I'm making a confession right now deep fried Turkey overrated to know. Do you know it's overrated to. I don't like Turkey. Turkey is just like a worst tasting chicken. That's what it is. Would you rather have fried Turkey or project. Answer the question right now. It's the question right now. Would you have fried chicken. Fried Turkey Fried Chicken. Of course so why are we. Why are we making this meal all around Turkey? But here's the notice days. It's a secondary bird. Well here's the other thing. I want to say I could talk about this. So many people that love Turkey defraud however I have a question for them that I challenged myself on the last few years and I corrected okay. You love it so much. Why only eat once a year? It's not good. It's not right. It was a year a reason only once a year. It doesn't taste good problems. It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things. Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety. SMART LOVES PROBLEMS IBM IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT com slash. Smart to learn more Jalen is Wednesday. Wednesday is where we celebrate the more intelligent more responsible. Hardworking kinder generally superior gender of our species the females by taking only female voicemails. If you call nine eight five eight zero Joe Jalen you can leave us a voicemail and if you could read your shut out and he just happens to listen to that one because we know he doesn't listen to all of them put it on the show just like this high Jalen and Jacoby. My name is Connie from the sound. Seven Shadow. Rich told me on the pot. I've got a cultural or regional question could issues on your small smoke and rice ice with gravy. My stepdad makes me listen to the pot every day in the car which is an obvious fossils and he said it's a soft move to occur on your smartphone in rice with gravy. Enjoy listening to the show he would kill to. Caleb leaving name is Guinness. A Call Uh gravy on your rice. Jalen rose cultural regional I would say regional regional definitely Megyn also calling calling sauce gravy regional cultural. It's like I think Italian do that. Italians call soft call sauce gravy. I I think that's regional. I think it's it's cultural calling. Sauce gravy is cultural talons. Italians do that okay. I've never understood it. It's not great. Maybe he's a completely different food item Do you put gravy on your rice. No Do you put sugar in your eyes. No just butter just come come on right. Never I've never been good at making rice. I've never been good at it. I never could get stuck to the par cook into law or take it out too quick. It just seems like I only get like eighty percent of the rice actually ends up on a plate. I like Fried Rice me to shrimp fried rice at the House. Yeah yeah but I don't use I invested in a walk. I was walking out and walking it up walking rolling all over the place for a while there. I know what happened to me since we moved to New York City. Komo Grill Means Cook Anymore. The grill used to be my contribution. I remember family meals. No more grill outdoor space put the grill and the stoop. So here's what you can do. What's that I spent some time with your brother? I would love to you know what I like to do that. I realized makes me happy at night. Why nightmare you know? It just seems like it's dark outside like I'm doing something mischievous do you know what I've never been good at the using the coal drill like with colds so much better the smoke waiting around that long enough control the heat. Turn the dial carry bags of coal. Good there's nothing worse than having people over cooking on the the grill haven't oh ran out running out of gas. Nah I always have a backup. I always gotTa have rotation of to you gotta rotation that those things dangerous. They are dangerous dangerous fire. Whenever I'm driving home from the gas station one of those? I feel like if I get a car accident. I'm always nervous about. I'll never go with one of the kids. Spray liquid. Never ever go with one of the kids in pickup Whatever they call it the charcoal now the big propane tanks? I'll never take a kids with me when I'm running out here. Well I'll just bring you behind the curtain. There were periods in my life where we did have heat so we use kerosene heaters really frequent. Oh yeah one of the things I used to do because my mom works really hard doc. I used to try to make sure the house was warm. When she woke up to get ready and we she had to be at work at eight and obviously had to be a school today so we used to lead a house around seven so I used to pop up around six jump into ride before I even have my license go fill up to kerosene tank? Bring it back to the KRILL. So I've done that multiple times. Not just ain't willing to do it to cook rice no gravy. I'm not putting greenery. Not really appreciate the call definitely boss move your step that makes you listen to the podcast but gray always a boss move but but gravy is is really slept on based on. WHO's making this? I can't eat Turkey with that. There are people that can put their foot in some gravy quote unquote quote. I've never heard that before. You never heard never heard that before. Ever that's cultural. I've never really never in my life. Never third that put their foot some gravy up now. I did not make that up and we ask everybody Reggie for deer tallow. Hello Kelly boy. Tell sometimes I'm reminded. Just how different for you. Because we have a live we share a lot of common interests we do and I gotTa make sure I pay. Raised allege some homage. There was some want on social. Who told me that they were at a Memphis Grizzlies basketball game and and somebody on the opposing team went up four shot and he got blocked? Forty nope in the arena. Oh influencing how about that influencing speaking of inflow never draymond green did that rap at the parade the warriors were loose it. A couple of those parades the warriors the GM saying things that his neck about Katie Green was free styling. There's one parade was like nine the morning like I really didn't go to sleep last night. Did you know why why would you I. Would I remember when it was dirk was doing the interview with the podfather and he said that they lost Shawn Stevenson. They lost they lost him. I like speed lost. Where he went? What happened he was just loss? I gotTA bring you guys behind the curtain or something yesterday. Jacoby in our at shape. forty-five that's right shot out to my brother Lord sear for showing love. I'M GONNA go back there and DJ at one point of Lords here we'll go back Dj. He's a veteran again. stretching Bob Vito days stretching. Bob If you don't know stretching Bob they've got a documentary out. They've gotTA show podcast stretching by also I gotta give it another shot out to ladies love cool j out got a chance to kick it with him for a second checking yesterday. supports our program. We will be doing rock. The Bells Radio again shot the rock the bells that had us onto a little takeover. They want us to do it again. Said about that. We're going to do that. And I gotta bring you guys behind the curtain on some really important to the program. What's this the person? What's this person? I've called the most influential artist in the history of hip hop the most influential artists in the history of hip hop. WHO's at Andrea Young? Oh Dr Dre. Oh Ah facetime with him yesterday really. Yeah what do you say just that. He appreciates the program really. What are you gonNa tell me about this on works? I wanted you to know wax because he's going to be on the show. Wow he's rich rich he is. It's fresh he'll billionaire yeah he's with a B.. would be wow man. I can't wait till I'm a billionaire so we're going to get Dr Dre on. The program supports our movement. Appreciate the love. I love that when you come to town you guys number number. Oh number number joking about. I'm not the person numbers away to chase me. David Jacoby the Kobe won. Say Hi and I think you're great artist COUPLA million dollars. Here's my memo account. Hit me on. That's hilarious interest. I'll say like a couple of grand. He's working duty. I watched that documentary on. HBO and like he is such a perfectionist. He doesn't release music like he's obsessed with it like every little detail has to be perfectly. We're not like that on this show careers coming here. We do whatever we want. Let me leave. Forget about it so I need because there will. It'll be people that question what I said about the most influential artist in the history of hip hop let me bring you guys behind the curtain on. Y Okay I'm old enough to remember the world class wrecking crew and there was a song that influenced me to actually won the DJ Eh. It was caught surgery and you know who was the disc jockey. Dr Dre Dr Dre Dr Dre Dre dray. Hey that's a great scratches ever and so he graduates from that situation and Who grew was the apart after uh-huh we grew apart after that I'm not allowed to say yes you are. NWEA's the recreation okay. They're really popular popular very high fluential. Were they changed hip hop forever forever and they only had rest easy in the group Who went on on have a couple of classic albums himself? The gentleman bought enable O'Shea Jack Suchet Jackson my brother Ice Q.. Who not only went on a half so so many classic albums so many classic movies too? Oh how about that. BURSARIES HUSTLING DMC Rin. Dj Yellow Classics. Okay thank you. NWEA still dropped a classic out. Yep Hundred Miles of running classic I would I remember as being the EP six songs classic. He just stopped. There stopped there. nope he helped discover an artist on a song called deep deep cover. That's an early ninety. Oh Snoop Dogg right. And he's only a legend. He's only had classics movies movies. Television all right. They had movie together. What were they on death? Row Death they also have another guy Death row records. She was like he was named three pockets and he did a song Last talks occur also going to love when he got out of jail right And I'm GONNA introduce you guys to somebody that you probably don't know that you should know the deal. See how energy eighty four with the wisdom since of a rich man knowledge in the rhythm but those that don't know he was on his way to be Jay before whole he was that don't had an unfortunate car accident Lost his voice. But you know what they continue to go on to do. The chronic onic the quadrant remember the chronic chronic is a classic will best album of all. Right it's a classic. The top ten right just stop there is it more than one chronic. Yes well you're off this also interscope Marshall mathers. I Dunno familiar with him. Also gentleman by the name of Curtis Jackson is also generally about the game. Yup Warren G. Kendrick Alamar most influential figure Anderson packed up and again people. Oh Yeah of course you know we do list you forget every time people that time with your listen. Let's say Dogpound Lady of rage don't say how you think you said okay. They ah bars heroes time. Who said what a perfect as a perfectionist not think about what you just said? All of these individuals are legends regions in half classics. Everybody we just name has classics. How about that? I during the television portion of the program Jalen rose agreed to dance with the Knicks city dancers time of square. Because you know they're gonNA love this. You know all all we have to do is write one email to the PR people at the Knicks. And they're gonNA agree to this in a second. I think are promoted. They'RE GONNA put your face on a ticket in a bikini. I can't wait for this to happen. And you know I'm lazy sometimes when it comes to this show and preparation you know the staff does all the work now and and you know. I'm GonNa work on this one. You know make this hat. I don't believe with Michelle. Your great assistant make sure we get dates right. I'm GonNa get you a hotel room in the cities so you can't complain. It's GONNA be Great. I was initially when we put you in for an outfit. The only the initially I agreed to because I was thinking ain't no way it's got got half but now as you say look at my face. atten that was done. That was that was done. You can't take it back now. I'M GONNA put it on social. It'll be a movement behind it up. We'll put the date will promote it masks. Quick sell out people outside selling tickets for double faced. No one's GONNA be leaving their seats at halftime the bathroom's empty bars. Anti waiting for you to come out of dumb glove when you do dumb stuff. 'cause you're used go usually protect yourself from your vet usually protect yourself from this cinnamon cinnamon challenge that one shelter. The PA father. It's a February eight the Pistons aren't town. Shout out to birds one stone February eighth everyone mark counters right now. Jalen rose will be dancing with the Knicks city dancers the federal eighth. And it's only gonNA practice choreography for one hours. Choreography sued flopping around when you saw grunk Shelter Venus. I love her. She great competitor. How long do you think that they practice a day? A full eight hour day. It takes some time. I've never done choreography Agassi. I did one time for a flash MOB AT MY BUDDIES WEDDING. Shut the J. Bot so we had to learn choreography targeting. you think it's a flash mob serious. It's it's a serious. Yeah what do you think of. FLASH MOB is. Don't answer that. Don't get lift up their shirts. No it's How do I explain like it's like a grand central station? A flash mob would be two hundred people prepare a dance then they would play the music and then just start dancing in the middle of grant station. God it so. My Hallway is getting married shouted Judson and They made us all learn a dance. The night before more beverages involves cultural and we danced cultural right dancing the big party and you don't go. Headings any weddings lit dance off. He comes in on a horse. You do a dance off. So it's like a dance off with his people against her people. Lear yes you do a dance off. It's amazing anyone that knows what I'm talking about knows knows you know when you guys are doing flash mobbing. We're doing soul train line. Yes yes all day yes. So I don't know what a flash mob is dance off his great horse run Horse Manhattan Dulcie Dole switch partners and all of that. No no you do a dance off. It's like it's like it's like it kind of was that was the jets and the sharks movie. was that one called. You know I don't know I I. I never see west side story. I don't remember you've seen west side story. Dance fights story. We're taking off female voicemails as women's Wednesday here on Jalen. If you call ninety five eight zero Jalen you can leave his voice mail and we'll put it on the show. Just I like this one rich Jalen and Jacoby. This is bubbles. I I want to thank you so much for giving people what they want. I've been listening to the commentary relating leading to Colin. Kaepernick kidding aid trial on Saturday and I am curious about your thoughts about this underlying possible topic. Do you think that there's a rush in terms of the timeline of the child because `Antonio Brown's has met with the league this week and perhaps there are teams who are clamoring to get him and maybe the League is considering him back but they know that the optics excess allowing him to come back considering. All that has happened would not be a good considering they have not even given Cowan a shot to come back. What are your thoughts? Shots bubbles petite call Jalen. Rose do think there is any sort of link between Antonio Brown current situation with the League. And the CON- Cabinet Child. I'll Lincoln income right here by saying this. I believe as training camp approaches next season in the NFL. Both of those individuals would be participating debating with teams. I think so too. I don't think I haven't heard a single serious inquiries since the workout about hiring con cabinet for the season. Have you heard anything. I don't think the I don't think it's going to happen this season. But I believe and I noticed microphone records things that we say Would training camp starts next next year Holland Cabinet and Antonio Brown we'll be there participating with teams truly believe that do do you think this is just. This is why I say it was not a perfect storm. Thirty two coaches. GM's there of course they were trying to set ended up at the Falcons facility that fell through but a template got me that shouldn't get overlooked because eight teams did you see him throw And the template now is he went from not working out for. NFL personnel for three years to work enough NFL personnel. nell which means that. There is a thawing of the ice So to speak so now if I'm held when the winter meetings happen and I know the coaches the GM's are GonNa be there. Yes what he can do again at a high school set up another work again and nothing this is. There's a time when the franchises around the League would say well. We don't want the distraction. It would be a distraction or there'd be a backlash or the fans there'd be implications implications on the fans and they say it's not worth it and that was the reason you know I'm not GonNa sit here and say that he was colluded against there was a whole lawsuit about that but it served felt like it. Well he was white ball. Yeah Yeah and there's also this it's not the same now like it's not just has there been a guy like it's just not such a hot topic anymore. The kneeling or not kneeling or Colin Kaepernick. He's not As controversial I think if a team brought him in there wouldn't be the same clinical distraction and quote unquote backlash once upon a time. And let me flip it for you. What what about the level of intrigue that team is going to have once they add him People are going to tune in to see him perform and that that that that in itself brings value but also. I want to acknowledge this the way you see. Russel Wilson has a dual threat MHM The way. Lamar Jackson has taken the League boss. Dr Patrick Mahomes as the reigning. MVP Jala cabinet is a mobile quarterback. That's what's needed today Eh. Unless you're going to be Tom Brady. Drew brees standing in the pocket so to your point as the time continues to progress. I think we get closer to the goal of getting him in uniform and getting a legitimate opportunity to every season. We see how important the role of backup quarterback for an NFL. French I'M GONNA give you two teams to watch okay because it's thirty two and I and I sit down to just throw stuff out there. I'm GONNA give you two teams to wash all right. Dolphins MHM Falcons Wash those Dolphins are definitely going to have to bring in somebody. They're going to draft a quarterback. You're bringing new quarterback those are interesting franchise. Thank you so much for the call bubbles really appreciate you in all of our female callers. We're taking all callers on Friday. Were off the show tomorrow birthday day off a long time Jalen. Yeah I a long time. I need a vaca- do to get up. They offer your day off for a AH playoff game tonight. I'm coming big wreck tonight. You're not coming come dance at halftime with nick or something. I don't even believe I said that's mark. I cannot wait for us to do that. We'll be back on Friday. Why is that the game a little guys? I love what I do baby.

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Saints sore losers?, LeBron's Lakers, KD's advice, Wentz's future

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

1:07:11 hr | 1 year ago

Saints sore losers?, LeBron's Lakers, KD's advice, Wentz's future

"What does make yourself? I'm Jason wedlock. That's Marcellus Wiley that do coming up. We'll tell you the whole world was wrong about the Brady Bill Belichick feud, and if LeBron is about to make the worst move of his Lakers career. Why is he illiterate? I but we start with a with law like every day which got today. Oh, man. I hope someone stands up to Sean Payton in the New Orleans Saints this off season. I hope they're not allowed to turn the NFL competition committee into a protest rally celebrating the victimhood of the saints and the aftermath of Sunday's controversial no pass interference loss to the Rams. Gale benson. The owner of the saints released a statement yesterday, making her intentions clear, she wrote no team should ever be denied the opportunity to reach the title game or simply when a game based on the actions or the inactions of those charged with creating a fair and equitable Plainfield as is clear. To all who watched the game. It is undeniable that our team and fans were unfairly deprived that opportunity yesterday. I have been in touch with the NFL regarding yesterday's events and will aggressively pursue changes in the NFL policies to ensure no team fan base is ever put in a similar position again more than five hundred thousand saints fans doubled down signing a petition demanding the title game be replayed. Stop sanction not victims. Not in my opinion victims are targeted the referee who fell to call the penalty on this past had no intention of harming the northern saints. In fact, his motivation was to protect the integrity of the outcome. He failed to act because he didn't want a judgment call by the refs to decide the game. His intentions were good. They were appropriate. The NFL's a reality TV show. The play offs are series of season finales, the goal of a season finale is for it to end with as much drama as possible you want your biggest stars to make the biggest plays to decide the outcome. No-one tunes is to see the ref in the game with two minutes to play the referees. Make a mistake in New Orleans this weekend. Yes. So what that's what humans do. No one died. The same still had to additional opportunities to win the game. They could've stopped Los Angeles on its ensuing possession. And the saints could have scored on the opening possession of overtime. Listen. I understand the whining. I don't have a real problem with it. But all this insistence that the NFL ensure this never happens. Again, the belief that Shawn Payne is going to use his position on the competition committee to right a wrong. Give me a break. It's the kind of misguided prisoner the moment emotion that causes us to overreact and make mistakes full. The need more emphasis on pass interference. It needs. Less pass interference is the most important play in professional football. And it's also the most frustrating for fans. Let me repeat football is a reality TV show, nothing annoys viewers more than arrest and on the sideline under a hood. Looking at a small screen. Nothing is more consistently aggravating than inconsequential contact between a db and a receiver moving the football. Thirty five yards downfield to the one yard line. It's all bad TV effort to placate Sean Payton's feeling of victimization could damage the game. Don't let it happen. The solution. What happened on Sunday is de emphasizing pass, it affairs allowing more contact we between receivers and DB's and relieving some of the judgment calls from referees. Don't treat Payton in the saints like victims, they're not they're sore. Lou. Users who may far more game beside him mistakes than the referees did on Sunday I joined the desk now or Fox Sports NFL analyst, Eric Mangini. And Tony Gonzalez ourselves. I'll start with you. Thanks like sore losers. Here mean man, you mean, I mean, really, oh, I never heard gale Benson speak. I'm sure she doesn't sound like Martin Luther King. Your. This whole sore losers. Psychology is always disturbed me from just growing up when you're wrong in competition, and you wanna show integrity. But you also want to be now only objective specific about your gripe. It's weird that people like you always say there's expiration date on you complain about how you were wrong case in point. Let's say I race you sane and he false starts. But they let them keep running. And he's already faster than me any keeps running. He beats me in a photo-finish. Do you know how long I'm going to complain about? How y'all let him get away with a false start to the day. I dot if there's a situation where you're talking about you wrong me. I was victim of the music city miracle I just brought it up again yesterday to the day. I can talk about my gripe. Why does that all of a sudden get terms sore? Loser sore loser to me is when you were beating beaten fair and square, and then you. Or making unnecessary gripes? Or you're exaggerating the wrong that probably didn't even occur. This is not that case. This is not a conventional case of a sore loser. This is a team that if the referees is do their job in that one moment they're going to win that game. So for me sore. Loser is a little excessive and also out of place for this category. I think we stand on a call depends on where you sit like, I think the tuck rule, call was a great call, and you know. I was in New England at the time. But but even even looking at this situation, there's no guarantee that they would won the game. So it would have been down to thirty seconds, and they would cook kicked two field. But if you look at the first game the end of the first half, what did the Rams do? They went down at the end of the half with twenty six seconds left and kicked a field goal because they've missed the fuel a lot of things could happen throughout the course of that game. They were letting these guys be physical it happened through the whole game. And there were a lot of calls like that in overtime. You could argue that the pass interference call that that that the saints did get was a wrong call the that was to those to light a call. So you can argue that throughout the course of the game. And if you're in Kansas City, you're unhappy about the fact that the New England Patriots able to go down score and overtime win the game without getting the ball back. So there's a lot of things that people are going to be an unhappy about at the end of the game. Was it a bad call? It was a bad call was it a guarantee that they would have won the game not necessarily. Well, I was there. And when I saw it in real time I was shocked. That would shocked that they didn't call that. I mean the ball in real was watching it. And I'm played the game a long time looking at it. And I'm saying that is no brainer pass interference. They're gonna run the ball three times. First down run the ball. Three times game is over now. Going back to what you said, by the way, that was very mean to put tears your mocking this man's pain. And you said it's nobody died, but I'll tell you this in people out there might not like this. But it does it feels like somebody died I played in the NFC championship game. We lost that game. I didn't get over it for a month. Literally went down to Mexico. I said forget about the program not going. I said I'm not I didn't watch the Super Bowl year. Literally was like somebody had kicked me in my gut. And we lose we lost parents square. We just couldn't score to lose like this. It is a tragedy to these people. It is it is it is like somebody died literally you can compare it to it is a death to them. It's that serious and I'm not exaggerating. I'm not saying it's like somebody. They literally feel like a part of them has died. And it's something they'll carry with them for the rest of their life. Some people get over it. But there are certain people out there that will never get over it. But it will never get over. It's very very tough to deal with. But it didn't end the game. It didn't end the game. And they had an opportunity to go. Stop the ram. They had an opportunity to get the first possession overtime and go down and score. And you wonder was the. Focus on that call the thing that distracted them for the rest of the game was their inability to move on from that that they eliminated difference in the rest of that game. They butchered everything I mean, calling I pass on the first down that did not go that way that whole clock shouldn't have been like that. They messed that up, and I'll give that to and yes, maybe they could have put the chances are if they got that call and then just take a knee three times in a row then kick a field goal with fifteen seconds of the game is over there in the Super Bowl. So I understand where these fans are coming from have a little compassion have a heart for them it bad. But now, let's go to the competition committee and ensure that this never happens again why I'm just sorry. There is long as humans are involved. There's going to be mistakes somebody in that competition committee, Mike Tomlin Mara fan. Somebody's got to stand up to Sean Payton who to me is going too far and gale Benson going too far my change in rules. Because something bad happened to the New Orleans Saints give me a break. Well, I I think a lot of the rules and the changes in the rules is because of the effect on the Konami and the business the football. So if you talk about the game being safer impart, you wanna make the game safer because you're selling into soccer moms and second generation athletes like Tony myself. So the economics do sway you in terms of how you want to change the rules in the competition committees and their votes so sticking replays about safe. Yeah. You know, what this was this was about integrity of the game. This is about the fan. Who's sitting there say, hey, is there another interest involve other than fair square competition? So yeah, as Gail Bisson even said in her letter, if you read it fully is started off talking about this play and then expanded to the fan base. And how she's blessed to be a New Orleans Saints and blessed to be from New Orleans. You know, what you have to reset that fan base? And the NFL has to reset his fan base as well. You can't let them have an entire off see that they can at any given time the referees may or may not call it. So. So the competition committee is influenced by the economy of the game, which is based off impart the integrity of the game. No calls have been a part of sports since the beginning of time and fans getting their feelings hurt has been a part of sports since the beginning of time the Saint Louis cardinals and their fans in one thousand nine hundred five Don dig consider messed up a call unintentionally that people in Saint Louis believe cost them a World Series title in game six now they blew the rest of that game. They had other opportunities to finish game six, and then they came out and got their butts kicked in game seven eleven zero. So I've seen Saint Louis. The city is fine. All the people that fans in the same Louis Cardinals. They're fine. The New Orleans Saints got delta, mid versity and a painful loss. Heartbreak is a part of sports. That's to celebrate victory. How do you get over it? So quickly though, I mean game was two days ago. The ready, right? You eighty five percents two days later, if they wanna be upset five, but all this. We've got to change the rules and people signed the petition is about Roger Goodell overturning the outcome and sending the saints to the Super Bowl are making them replay the game stop it. It's called volition. And for you to say, there's not one rule that's been the same from the get in a sports guess what Jason Whitlock is anti progress. You know, what we have to evolve the game continues to evolve, and this may be a part of the evolution. You're saying victims don't weren't intended in harmed in the process in ten intense. No intent you understand the difference. In a tent is like manslaughter to murder. You know what I'm saying? I didn't mean to hurt you. But guess what you go. So guess what? I still have to deal with that. So don't use it tit as you're only gauge you don't have to try and hurt me and still feel the pain. But how many times have pass interference calls? Ben, Ben Ben called and the balls on the one yard line, and it shouldn't have been called. It's worth the other way for years, and nobody really argues that strongly. About that. We tried to overpay. She ate the catch role and that didn't work out. So then we had to go back this year and change that. And then there are a bunch of balls that look like, obviously, they weren't catches. But everybody was afraid to overrule it. So we went the extreme the other way too. I like the idea of being able to to review calls, I think that'd be an open ended deal. But look this human error is part of the game. I agree with you. I agree with that. Absolutely. And you know, I agree with saying Sean, don't worry of the game. Don't overcomplicate this stuff. It was just a bad. No call by that ref. It really wasn't. I believe it was they let them play in the playoff. I'm not a thousand. But that was just a back haul. You don't think it was back. Call. No, I in Helena, the handles one call the helmet should have been gripe. So that's one of Hass in France to me is totally questionable. When you watched it lie that ball was uncatchable. I believe it was passed the dude actually, and it wasn't canceled was a bad throw. Another one of drew Brees is bad throws on that. Same drive, and it really wasn't because I was upset with the db like why does your touch and you didn't need to do anything. He could pick that up. But it, but he did. But he did do it. And yeah, he impeded the. That was a good ball. He would've had a touchdown would've caught. And that's what the DB said, by the way, he can. And he don't know. How would you feel if if you got your house robbed and the police were there there's intent and it is stop them. This like why would you mean my stop this? Call. This is wrong. That's not bad because it is their job to stop a crime from happening. But it's the police it's like, well, we didn't think he was going to do it. We thought he was here. So I just I honest to goodness. And I I love drew Brees think he's the Walter Payton of this era sham Peyton to me. I've lost some respect for he. He's a bid of over Ackerman. His wrongs for talking about ego control Marcelo does that have to do with the fact that he lost respect for him. His eagles out of control what you're using this to kind of galvanize that point and say, oh because you're complaining about a wrongdoer sore loser. So now, you're eagles out of control. I don't see the connect. He's not taking responsibility for what he did to cost them. Again. You know, what if this was during the regular season? I would agree with you. I would I would say get on you got next week. But there is no tomorrow here. That's why it feels like a death. You'll never have this opportunity, and it's gone forever. And you know, hard it is to get to these situations. It's extremely hard. So yes, he's grieving right now as I compared it to death. Is there a proper way to grieve? Are you going to tell somebody can't grieve that way? They're greeted it feels that that we are. But he died because this well this how I would like for them degree. You know, what the rest made a mistake, and I made about six costs us this game. And so you can blame the rift. But don't forget to blame me because I really did some dumb stuff here that help cost us the game. And there was so much football left after that play. And that to me is is what I think is getting overlooked. There's so many plays where they could have done the right thing and overcome this call it's not like that play was was the only one that that could end the game. I'm never going to awake with either way. Why did you tears he go? I'll give you the. Well, if you if today, I leave here and go to a buffet and choke on a buffalo wing and die. Don't blame the restaurant. Analogous. Robin Hood is an investing at to let you buy and sell stocks options, PDF's and cryptos all commission free. They try to make financial services work for everyone. Not just the wealthy. 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I back Woodlock Walli, Eric Mangini genius back. We're joined now by former pro bowler, Shaun Merriman time for a big story sponsored by Volvo and the all new s sixty follow no one. Let's move to the patriots who have called their way back to the Super Bowl for the nighttime in the Brady Bill check era. It's almost hard to believe, but a year ago the story coming out of Foxboro was one of discord between the two leaders of the NFL's greatest dynasty. But this week both bell check and Brady denied. There was anything to those reports. Some of these people who are never met him never talked to them. So I mean, I'm not going to get much of gossip, you know, we've always gotten along great. You know, it's we've worked together for nineteen years. So had the same goals in my for nineteen years. And you know, he's been just a great great mentor in my life. Great coach. He's taught me, you know, more than anyone ever heard about the game of football. And. You know, I've always just loved playing here and playing for him. He's the greatest coach of all time, and we just had some incredible moments together nineteen years in the same relationship. There was never a rift. There was never a problem. It was never an argument. There was nothing. It was just all gossip and rumors. These guys saying Coon by every night by a campfire. I don't buy to. No, I don't go hit nineteen. I it's very mature. What they're doing and saying, but in nineteen years, of course, there was a bit of a riff, but like to grown adults. They eventually saw. Hey, we're better together. And you know, what I really do love you. And we got over. Let's get over this Malcolm Butler deal, and let's go out here and try to win another Super Bowl. I give him great hat tip adults instead of growing apart. They the riff probably brought them back together and made them even stronger. That's what makes them great. They're mature and keep their eyes on the bigger picture. Over the long haul. But any relationship of nineteen years? Go have a rift or two you gave them to wit lock for door hat tip. The full hat tip. You might be you might really feel that way. I hate to go through semantics, but real rift versus arguments fights disagreements are, they saying are they synonymous are they really different. I take real riff to the point where these guys both have individual power and collective greater power real riff meetings to me that they try to execute an actual is our disagreement. That means I'm going to Bob Kraft Bellichik, you're going to Bob Kraft. We're trying to divorce each other like literally like to action like that's real riff. I've been on real riff. I've been Doug Flutie. Rob Johnson seen real riff. I've seen owner till way Phillips one thing. And the next day tell them something else to the tune of we lost the game. Because of that that's real rip. I seen AJ Smith. Now talk to mardi shot fourteen games walking down a walkway like this name speaking, that's real rich. Like, we're gonna make something happen now that that's not real riff nineteen years. And we, you know, we've been at six months already couple of times he looked at me. Like, all right. Love and that's a that's the that's really the ingredients of a great relationship. So hate to go semantics, but to me not rift because they didn't really make something of it. And I don't agree with it. But that's good. I agree with Marcellus. I think we whenever you're with someone for a long time. It's not going to be all roses and walks on the beaches, but there's a difference between having a disagreement being frustrated with someone and having something that's gonna tear you apart and they lost the Super Bowl. Jimmy Garoppolo all those different things that come up, but they both understand that they're good for each other. They both understand that they wouldn't be in the place that they're in without each other and dislike with any relationship there's certain characteristics of your partner that may get on your nerves after time. But you you respect the great things about it. And you move forward understanding that you each help each other achieve your goals. I believe wherever they're smokers fire period. I don't believe that anyone will make up some of the things. It was coming out. First of all, they keep organization so tight so anything to come out of it. It has to be something, right? When Jimmy G was was up, and he was supposed to we're going to stay organization leaves from Wales. Bill Belichick wanted him there. That's a fact people knew that. Well, the Tom Brady is won't come back. They will decide to that's that's a fact that if you want to call that riff, that's real riff. I do believe Bill Belichick. One thing. I do believe that he didn't speak to anyone of those reporters say anything negative about anything himself. But when I say, they're smoked as far I believe that players have seen. What happened hurt would happen in lock Rome. They seen it firsthand. One thing these players have wise. These wise have friends these friends have cousins, their friends they'll have. So it's out there. I believe when smoke there's fire have had been something over these years than it had to come from. You just don't make up things like, yeah. You know, never four. Yeah. But not from not from this organization. Nothing this because it's wrapped so tight. They don't let anything get out. Hold on. Respect yourself wicker sham in his report. And the fact that you went to sources not the source strike one. Maybe even strike one and two because as you're going to these anonymous teammates as soon as you can go to Tom Brady. And here, I'm not speaking to you. Didn't you go to Bill Belichick? I'm not speaking to you. Guess what? You don't have the pure on dope. You don't have it. Like, you think you have it? So now, you're getting into pillow talk you into guys who maybe have different motivations guys who are not in those intense moments and seeing it from afar everyone's vantage points starting to add up to a place where you like I got the complete picture instead of talking to the sources also. So you let me when allergy Guerrero when when that problem happened when he was to end the organization he was he made himself too comfortable that that wasn't a problem that was just made up. Oh, yeah. But Alex Guerrero doesn't mean that now Bill Belichick and Tom Brady going to have a real rift. We can have a disagreement you gave them access. Now, you want to rein it back OK. We got a disagreement on his access, but real riff like what kind of world we live in that. We're so sensitive that I can't say, yes. And no to you. And also, we've got a problem when I say, no, okay, Marsalis, all you. This is the single side of the room ad married. South. When when your partner says, I think in his own documentary that he was doing over Facebook wasn't. He the one saying that he didn't feel appreciate it wasn't. He the one is basically saying Bill check Gibbs him Nola when your partner comes and starts time. I don't feel appreciate I don't care. That's a problem that will lead to some counseling if that's not address. There's a big problem. The first thing I heard on record Tom Brady, not feeling appreciate it was years before this article and years before it is real riff. It was winning took his parking spot back. It was like five six years ago. Tom Brady had his own parking spot, Tom Brady desert his parking spot. I don't know what gets probably first time. He leaves probably last. But Tom Brady is is on parks about ended. They took it back. Now. There wasn't a real riff conversation. A real riff article written about that. But that's part of the fuel for this. Call real refire. Now, we all of a sudden have all these people talking. About their situation. When really all it was was a power play Donnie represented three of the four parties involved. Jimmy, G you represent Tom Brady Bob Kraft in a loose fashion. And then as Bill Belichick and feeling isolated like, no, y'all consultant about me. And then that's all that was exaggerated. If there was a real risk. Why didn't they just really beef it out to the point where they're not together long? But look if you're in New England, you can't be sensitive that that's just the way it is. You can't be sensitive and be there and Tom Brady one of the great things about him is as much success and fame, and all the all the things that had he still coach all he still appreciates the role that he has and that role allows him to be lead everybody else who's in there and with any relationship. Yeah. Are you going to get into arguments? You are are you going to have to give and take a little bit. You are. But at the end of the day when you understand that this person is what's best for you. You move on from it and go to the next. Next thing in line. They certainly have. And I can't criticize either one of them after that class. We have to. It's grits. Philosophies on believe in compromise. I'm not meeting. Anybody halfway stupidity? We'd lock it while they were joined now by NBA insider, Kris Haines now, let's move to the NBA. We're Carmelo Anthony is finally on the move and being traded from Houston, Chicago. The trade is just a money dumped mellow won't actually play for the bulls. But he could still end up with his good friend, LeBron James with a report servicing that the Lakers are still interested in finding a way to acquire. The former all star who likes this. Do they Carmelo Anthony it didn't work out with Chris Paul his best friend there? Why would it work out with the Lakers and LeBron James Carmelo makes no sense with the lake? It makes a ton of sense. Whatever you want to say about Carmelo Anthony. And a lot of people wanna point to his last two years of production in declined to really just say that's who he is in totality a lot of movement. A lot of moving parts Carmelo Anthony. I still think he's a very good player in this league and very good for the Lakers situation for two reasons one he is a veteran and Esa young core. And LeBron James at his age is looking for guys who are ready right now in two if you look at him from the three point line, which is today's game Carmelo Anthony on this team would rank top three interns shooting in his decline like the decline years at thirty five thirty six percent shoot right now. We'll be right behind the best three points shoot on Lakers, which is by percentage. Anybody full-fat trivia heart last divas? Hello. Hello. What? So Carmelo Anthony because of his versatility, I'm not going to use all the decline in and just say, that's we isn't totality. I think he can really help this team. Specially in a veteran mindset I have to with Whitlam on this one smoke. He was in Houston. He was on a team where all he had to do was play a minimal role, and it didn't work out. It lasted what a couple of weeks before it was let go. So now you asking him to come onto a Los Angeles Laker squad. We'd take LeBron's aims out. This team is young. Yeah. Is he in is Carmelo in of the mindset right now that could come in? And be a veteran leader just help these young guys or is. This mindset is is I can still score give buckets. Because if that's his mindset, that's the mindset that got him out of Houston and the Lakers right now, that's not what they need. And I know LeBron James like the Lakers interest is it Lakers. Or is it LeBron? That's interested in Comilla. So we know LeBron wants them over. I just don't think that's a good fit overall. That's messed up. This is messed up Houston. And okay, see, if you talk about Carmelo Anthony fitting in what's in common in those two destinations the leader of both franchises, not the same facilitator and open minded leader as a LeBron James Russell Westbrook and James Hart who did takes hard right now who I love who I respect who soon as Chris Paul down James hard to hang. Hey, hey goes back to what he really wants to do what he's been suppressant which is takeover. Russell Westbrook plan. Well, with Paul George we understand that. But it's a difficult process. Carmelo has taken a lot of the blame for dealing with two of the superstars whom don't necessarily like to share put them in. Lebron james. Say what you will about James Ross. But there one elite leaders an assist every year after they get their book, Libro, willow. Broncos back you feel for the okeydokey. I understand that. I understand they wanna get their numbers. I do I do get that. But you you bring Carmelo who you taking minutes away from. I think you're bigger problem is is an Chris do you? Remember, Alan Iverson in Denver, and he still thought he Melania Alan Iverson from Philadelphia. And that's the problem with Carmelo Carmelo is a sober. Alan iverson. That's all he is. He still thinks he's the guy that won the national championship in Syracuse. He's still thinks he's a perennial all star. And you know, a number one number two player. He's not of the minds. He's still thinks he's one of the ten best players in the league. And Alan Iverson to to this day probably still thinks he can go out in NBA and get forty. This is a sober. Alan Iverson, it just won't work. Man, y'all either alone. I. He's going to say if he thinks if that's his mindset it won't work your, Los Angeles. I don't know that that's the case. Yeah. I don't know if he really thinks he's still a tap to imply. He's a good player. He should be in his league. But as a right now at this stage of his career, it's all about fit ONA EC. He can't help. He can't help eight warriors who've come on strong lately winning nine of their last ten to regain control of the west earlier this season like things might be falling apart and Golden State with Draymond green getting suspended by the team after an on court spat with Kevin Durant. But as Marcus Thompson writes in the athlete Draymond into rant have made up with Katie asking green to rein in his emotions, quote Durant seen green control it. He seen him keep his composure in the crucible of championship stakes. He seen him locked in and focus forcing his emotions to submit to his will so Durant. Challenged him to be better. Green accepted. All right. Is this a good sign for the Golden State Warriors in terms of long-term, keeping Kevin Durant? I say it has no impact there. I think Kevin Durant is trying to get through this season. And he's going to do. Whatever the hell it is. He wants to do when he off season comes around. I'm with you there. I think a lot of times, especially NBA free agency. We look for any little scrap. Any little kernel us out? That means something oh, he has a home here in off season. Yeah. You gotta home about five cities. If you really want to know, so I'm not going there with this. I'm not putting too much on this for a guy like myself. No shame. I was engaged four different times. And every single one of those we went through counseling, and we really try to work it out. And it was always them always knew they would've probably found that out in council. I thought it was all be found. It was so, but the point is you will move on and still say, all right? Well, I tried and I think that this is one K D is doing he's like I tried like I'm trying to fix the situation. Doesn't mean I'm married to it. So I wouldn't put too much on this. I think it was going on is that isn't it happened? So early in the season that at some point they had to talk about it try to move on past. It actually got Katie a few days after that incident on my podcast posted up with Chris is pocket podcast. What we heard about that do with my boy markes and terrorists all, but he look he said that he let that go immediately. I don't know what I believe him from that standpoint. But look, I agree with I don't think this is going to have any bearing on his future or anything like that. It's a situation where it's a long season. I gotta play with you. I gotta see you everyday. So we're going to have to discuss about discuss this and move on now. Was the warriors. Are they concern or they still concerns his this day? Yes. I think so was that incident that I have played pick part in their casare. Yes. It did play a part in the summer. I'm not so sure a smarter K D to do it this way too. Because one you address a younger player or less accomplished player in him. And you don't son them. You just say look man, I think he got more in you. If you hone this in really start to be a well rounded player said it just always being emotionally driven. But to like, you said it's really awkward to be on a team travel. Everything would have guy and you're trying to ignore them. Because my grandma used to say to ignore is to pay attention you ever try to ignore somebody. You gotta pay more tentative. Oh, here they come. Cool do pay more attention to this dude. And I'm right in front of you, some of the other thing here, though, I think it's smart by Draymond to accept this criticism and try to change because he still would like to get paid again from Golden State, and he can't be seen as the reason. K D left that would cost him money. That's an credibil-. Good business decision. Right. Make sure you go in and appeases guy because he was a big reason why he got them there. But you don't wanna be the the reason why. Yeah. And you think about it like Draymond green? He's interesting case study his numbers don't support max dollars or even anything in that respect, however him in this circumstance does suggest you need Swiss army knife for would they do if he gets himself in his position where they lose the love for him in the organization. I don't know where else he can go and command that same dollar based on these numbers and the perceived effect you'll have on another French. You know, what's not smart job boards that send you candidates that aren't qualified for the role you posted or send you a mile high stack of resumes to sort through. But you know, what is smart going to ZipRecruiter dot com slash speak to hire the right person. Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter finds qualified candidates for you. It's powerful matching technology scans thousands of resumes to identify people with the right skills education and experience and actively invites them to apply to your job. So you get qualified candidates fast. 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But my house took a screen shot and post it on Twitter asking a question. How's this happen people over to this? I just because he says so right for the people who didn't see this. Let me remind you of something that happened over Twitter for thirty minutes that you didn't see and should you be offended? It's a mistake. Some kid was trying to motivation was trying to honor Dr king and kids screwed it up. And they corrected it. I don't understand how this ended up on the front page of ESPN dot com. Not big news. This is not big no dog make mistakes. Ooh. I mean, I'm not dead. To know. My legacy is going to be if I have worked outside my family, but. I don't think there's anything you can do it. It's gonna make me feel like I want to wake up from the grave. How dare you like this? When I saw it. I was like I hope he explain why should be mad because maybe I will be mad. But if you don't explain it. I'm not mad offered this image imagery, right there. Like, I know what you're doing like Cain. What he stood for obviously is not this scope, but is it a violation of put them in his lane. I'll tell me, but I feel like it is it is to me is just as bad as when you ever see the flyer people don't a nightclub, and they got Martin Luther King on the front of a nightclub like doing to me. Ever seen that you'd never you. Never seen heard about about me. He is saying the same thing trying to promote something on his day. What you're trying to promote him and use the university. You try to promote something. That that's why have a problem with it. Because you're trying to get something out of your not just you're not promoting him. You're not celebrating him. You're trying to get something out of it. So that that's my problem where Martin Luther King day. It's not like snuck up on anybody. We knew this day was coming. So you have time to plan Sekli plan. How you're going to honor hill that's much people looked at that. Pro February fourth and they do y'all got a problem with. Yeah. Okay. So king is why you just promote Martin Luther King and trying to get something from that. What I'm saying? It's not just from Morehouse along those files this over there. I think it's a bad attempt at trying to get young people to relate to Martin Luther King. How can I put something out there to get them to think about Martin Luther King? It's a bad attempt, but they removed it almost instantly on the stand. Why this is page news on ESPN dot com to hold this little Casaus moment. I hear what you're off the site. Wrong. This does that mean is wrong. I mean, I'm a little looser cut to the first time. Moving on big NFL news with cheese fans rejoicing with the news, I defensive coordinator Bob site, and has been relieved of his duties celebrated. She's decision with most people saying should have had a long time ago. Adam Schefter, Florida Rex Ryan name out. There's a possible replacement Ron has been approached about other positions in the past few seasons. But do you guys the wrecks would fix all the problems? Do I think Rex will fix all the TS? I think it'll be an upgrade over Bob. Sudden I think I would be upgrade over Bob said. Yeah, man, we went through this and all of them yesterday. And I want to get somebody fire, but it. Palmar made the call. Abra? Thank you. I'm wrong with this. I in pass rushing and sacks. And in thirty person defense like I've never been on the team where I've seen that actually worked together so gay Bob sudden, you're Skien old antiquated. Gotta go because they couldn't tackle to be. When defense came tackle. That's the mentality. The US still instilling your whole entire that's coming from the top. That's a deep. It's a coordinator. They ain't tackling. Nobody and I had argued with Brian Cox about this healing. Oh played for Bob said. And I know I say let me tell you something you get older time to go. Like the game has changed. Your philosophy might be different your attitude might be different towards a game. And this time has passed. I don't care. How great it wasn't in the past. He's just not good. Bob. Sudden is not dick lebeau. Let's. What I'm saying? I'm making your points like dick lables, a special case old, correct? They can still get it done. This old do the needs to go. All right. Along our own in my favorite clip on Twitter. The seventy Sixers beat the rockets yesterday and once when one nine hundred blow out even more impressive with this. Big Tom dance between these two kids. They're really going at hitting oh, the dads moved from fort night. Oh, I try picking the winner. It was too hard to choose one. Both was killing gotta hurry up and day out of his eyes. More. I've been chew before. I know you like to tempt to do a few moves. Yeah. Yeah. And with lock what'd you say? Who will win? You went line dancing this as so I know Marcellus. You had a chance like chair dancing? Big us your. Aggressive on a damn about the dads get out he gets. Gets. On the ground loving, man. Yeah. The do finally got out of his shirt one. But it was a great contest. They got to stop this. Right. Because you missed when they were showing this like two or three kids next to was also taking their shirt off. You gotta you gotta stop this at some point. That becomes the thing. You've gotta real you got a real problem we hand. Yeah. Just had a daughter. She not getting. The day. Got to keep the club and over. Say. Timeouts keep your eyes closed. LS next moving on to a guy went viral last week on Twitter Qena Sanders, aka to three hundred twenty pounds backflip gal from western Illinois in NFL draft prospect Zander found out that his pregnant he asked was going into labor while he was at the senior bowl and decide to stay in Alabama me I said delivers her baby and Chicago some people online criticize the twenty two year old for not being shelled while others pointing out and he's doing something that could help revive what family better later on. What would y'all do this for you? What his wife told what exactly? Go make. Right. We do this once in a lifetime thing, and that we're going to do some more of you know, what it's a tough decision. But you gotta go if you could jump around you better stay right there. Rouse, the opening no problem. I'll say this. I wouldn't be able to get away with it. But to teach teach this. Oh. No, I don't think. So I do not go. Wpro passes versus I don't they gave you slipped into third round textile coming. He's taking all the heat. I guarantee you his girl who's the world was like we'll come speak out there. Jay, she speak on those bath. Being here is enough. That means. You think you think man you can't face time to see your boat. You can't be like those doing this, right? They all that accommodate not saying that. Thanks. Jason Whitlock, here's Marcellus Wiley. It's time to put on our thinking caps. Eric Mangini, Shawn Merriman or back as you know. I'm a journalist. And we've got our resident Ivy league Lombi is very oh Marcellus Wiley. We're gonna talk about a big issue in sports on much deeper. Intellectual level. Yes, we are for our Columbia grad. We have a special cab Darnell bring it out. Guys have to put up with this who biscuit, Eric went to Wesleyan is probably pretty smart school. Got maryland. Grad bell check, I'm from ball state. I socialize very well once all right? Let's return to the NFL where the patriots once again proved to be greater than the some of their parts with Brady leading another unheralded unit to a huge road. Win over my Kansas City Chiefs and back to the Super Bowl for the third year in a row before the grain Brady said he felt like everyone doubted the patriots and right after the win. He vented about all the criticism to receiver. Chris hogan. Nothing HOGAN is just wanna Brady's many unheralded skills players the most notable being Julian Edelman who has turned into the most productive postseason receiver in the NFL since joining forces with Brady I'm watching the game Sunday night and Julian Ataman crushed the Kansas City Chiefs, and I just it just popped in my head us bite. Jillian is more valuable than all the diva receivers, they get all the attention. This guy's out here killing putting together a hall of fame resume helping the patriots go back to the Super Bowl for the ninth time Julian Edelman is more valuable than Antonio Brown. Odell Beckham junior and all the other Deavere receivers wrapped together. May maybe take shots at Julian Edelman right now. I I'm with you when they said it during the broadcast, he's putting together a hall of fame candidacy. I was like, yeah. 'cause he's clutch. And that's amazing. But we we have to dive into the details. Also highlight why Antonio Brown, and they'll Beckham or more valuable one before you even get to this postseason. You got a ball out zero to sixteen as they call it. So you gotta get your regular season games TV getting that conversation. And that's where Julian Edelman one loses a conversation Antonio Brown and to deal Beckham junior by the gist of the numbers Danielle his only been in league with five years before those five thousand plus yards only once he missed it. And that was because the empty calories go head open while. Okay. We'll fame empty calories. Don't count the two games in the postseason. Maybe three versus the sixteen regular. Okay. Desio? Great scale Eto. Etem Antonio Brown league. Same amount of years who don't look at two one thousand yard seasons for men versus seven without Antonio has just opposite set in with it and to without it. There's no comparison in terms of like just what they can do out there. There's not a comparison. Now, if you put them all in the same situation structure and lessen the assets around him, then you're gonna have a conversation. But here's my real thing as we just watched a hall of Famer and Teo who put up the second best numbers NFL history. Get slighted because of off the field issues. I'm gonna slide Julian Ataman for on the field issues. I'm not even gonna go into Snapchat, y'all going to have you on around. I'm gonna go into the fact you've got suspended for peak AD's now where I'm from the athlete. I am who never test them. Anybody who did it and one of my best friends in the game? Rodney Harrison did it Merriman. I caught. I love y'all as people. But as a player, man, we don't even count you beyond discounted your discarded because if you had to go and cheat to go get their man versus machine, I'm a bet on the machine you own that. Thank once, you do that you're discarded in this conversation in comparison to other guys who haven't been affected by that. I do agree with you let certain parts of that. Because I've also got a few times. What do I feel about going forward? You got some of the baseball players who up and I had to comment on. So I do feel about that certain point. But I'm going to to a whole point of. None of these notes diva guys can even play on this team in the first place. They can never play on his systematic off into scheme program. New England Patriots team in the first place. They can never go into field. They go too much about giving a damn ball in this. You can't have a gimme today about attitude because this ain't type scheme the last person that plate next game that you knew you had to throw the ball to you knew you had to get a bubble. Was Randy moss that was there. But he that's so rail for that even happen. They'll never happen again because you have to spread the ball around too much these guys that's what makes them so unpredictable on what they're going to do an office out of the ball. I can go back to even west Welker. I mean what's woke up we lined up west worker, eight us alive, and we played them. He's found ways he was he was Julian before Julian element, even was really talked about Walker was the man he leaves go to Denver. I knew had a concussion some some some injury problems whatnot. But you didn't hear bottom again. I can't put him up in that category. Only because he. Has too much help one being Tom Brady. The other won't be being Bill Belichick. You go to another team, and you produce the same way. Then we can have these talks if you can't do that. Then I can't talk about. Yeah. Jillian minute is a fit in this system. He's productive in this system. Just like Wes Welker was productive in the system and before him toy Brown was productive in the system. Now Antonio Brown is a different category because he's uniquely talented. And even when he double team when he can find ways to get open. But if you look at their their whole body of work, and all the things they bring you've gotta look at how much you have to pay an Antonio Brown versus Ataman have to look at the distractions that each guy brings the table and the off-season during the regular season all those other problems and hide. How do you weigh those things we're just gonna look at cheer ability than Antonio Brown? Would would have the nod without a doubt when you look at the system fit and how productive is in this for. This team. It's no comparison. If Marceau's you made a point that someone, you know, obviously, clearly wasn't even close to being appropriate, but never use PD's. But I never had a problem with guys that did I really did. It didn't bother me. No. Because if because people do generally speaking, whatever it is necessary to compete, whatever it takes to compete, people are going to do and you can't stop. And again, it's not that. I think using steroids is okay. But I let that got to do to compete. Well. It's not necessarily just as players. You also had to understand this the committee who vote on it is not just to players you have some players. Yeah. Some guys who do don't even get caught for a long period of time. You got some guys like me who made a mistake. You got I believe in his case. And when he presented to link he made a mistake. So that's what you get suspended. That's what it is. But if you and I always say if I was in that position, and I wouldn't get in. Because of that reason I wouldn't be totally upset because I understand that you got a bunch of guys that have long careers never been in trouble number of for that. Anyway, and never had any auto fill issues. None of this stuff. I understand it. I get it. But I don't necessarily think that that's going to be the determining factor for him. At least because he's had a log enough career. He's been productive. You know? You know, and not just something short and happening went away. I wanna move back to valuable and so to me if I'm an NFL owner executive or head coach I wanna get to where Bella check and the patriots are nine Super Bowls in eighteen years. Five Super Bowl rings that kind of consistency. And so if I'm owner executive coach, I'm like, how come I find me a Julian Ataman, and how can someone who will adhere to the system that I wanna use to win he's reliable. I don't have to worry about whether he's going to be at the practice before a must win game. I don't have to worry about is he going to get to the spot where my quarterback expecting to. He's not going to be Facebook live in my locker room. He's not going to be a distraction. This is a guy that I can win with and since two thousand nine one hundred five postseason receptions, the second place is Wes Welker with sixty one third is Julio Jones. You don't get to Antonio Brown until like ninth or tenth Odell Beckham. These guys aren't as rely. Liable as as Julian Edelman and availability and reliability are talents that are highly valuable. I mean, look when you're a patriot as adamant is. Yes, six more games in the postseason, then Brown and Beckham combined. So guess what you're gonna have more opportunities to get those numbers up but per game averages he doesn't beat Antonio Brown. So, you know, if Tonio had more opportunities and his numbers with Trump adamant the thing about it is you can't replicate what the patriots doing like, they even Mr. Magoo them themselves to this position. They didn't know what they were getting in Bella check in terms of this level of greatness. They thought they were getting a damn good coaching an amazing defensive coordinator who had struggles in Cleveland, thirty six and forty four record. And then when he got to New England he was five and thirteen before Tom Brady stepped on that field. Now, everyone always says who is it Bellichik Brady. I can't isolate the variables except saying one. Bella check had opportunities before Brady, but none sits Brady. Five at thirteen. Then Brady hit the field that year, they want eleven gays and wanna suppo Jules, I'm reliability consistency. Availability lack of destroy vote. You take those values anywhere in sports anywhere in TV anywhere in life. And they work and Julian Edelman adheres to those values, and that makes him more valuable than guys that don't when you look at deller Antonio, and you say, well, they haven't had as many opportunities in the postseason if they were more reliable if they were more consistent with those teams of Ben in the postseason more as a chicken or egg in terms of their production. What about you lie? Manning anybody he might perform. She was. Them adamant Las better. If I give him the culture and the here's to reliability. Eric genius John Maher or bat moved to Philadelphia where despite another late season surge led by Nick foles Beagles have made it clear that Carson Wentz their starting quarterback. But yesterday reports surfaced that the locker room isn't fully behind wins who was called selfish and egotistical by anonymous sources some of his teammates jump to his defense with lane. Johnson tweeting, quote, whoever wrote that article needs to check their sources fake news. Carson has been and is our leader. And our quarterback, y'all know where to find me if you have any issues with Zach ertz, adding don't believe everything you read Carson has been nothing, but a great person great teammate and a great leader since day one our locker room stands behind him all the way, we can't wait to get back to work and be the best team. We can be in two thousand nineteen question is should Carson Wentz be worried about this? And I would say, yeah. A little bit because I think there's some truth to it. But I think it's natural. I think I read the entire article guys are upset. He threw the ball Zakar is too much. There's a couple of wide receivers out Sean Jeffrey Nelson agriculture maybe have a little problem. He targets eckerd's. I think this is the proper pushback against Carson Wentz to try to point him in the direction. You know, why we play better with Nick foles because he does x y and z you need to do a little more of this. That's eight earlier. I don't trust articles that talked to the sources not the source strike one. Strike to is this one this whole narrative of all the teammates coming out saying man, you target Zach so moored in the Nick foles did did y'all watch the games. I did hear some facts for sin of targets. That's kind of comparable to me if not the same look at that. Carson Winston, dick, foes, basically, saying, hey, Zakar. She opened up though, all the same. Great a lot of people wanna exaggerate that maybe because of their friendship, you know, how that goes all you. I've been onto me disgruntled teams man, I've been through civil wars cast even speak to each other. And I'm like narratives start to run in different places in parts because the cancer separated. Awesome port this player or you support him. Now, we haven't communication. The article was well written, but I just don't buy. I buy a lot of disgruntle individuals who tried to map on what they felt to this situation. And it got taken out of context, I struggle with the term well respected anonymous sources well respected. In a locker room. If you really are. Then you're gonna take a young player, and you're going to take them to dinner. You're gonna take him somewhere privately and say, hey, these things are coming up. I wanna make you wear of it. So that you can you can adjust and that's what well respected teammates to. They don't go and say that there's all this strife, the other thing is for as many players to come out as publicly as they did and support them usually guys feel a certain way, they won't say anything at all. These guys were proactive in coming out and saying this is not the case if your boys with someone, but you may feel that it's it is true that typically those guys say nothing as opposed to come on deposit. Wiz anonymous source the first thing I think of is coward period. These guys that have a personal vendetta against somebody. Don't likes a person in lock for whatever reason. This could be a guy that's on the way out the door could be leaving. Because Carson Wentz into into the ball on Carson wins. Didn't do something. For him. Or didn't help him stay with the team organization. We don't know what it's anonymous source is. But let me tell you. This is not a non for long. If somebody really said that because they might not come out to the media might be off the record. But the guys upstairs they gonna find out who spreading these bad things round the locker room that person's going to be gone. If not already I think it's crystal clear that there's a segment of the eagles locker room that loves Nick foles. Yes, they put up a low shrine in the locker room and all that other stuff. And so there's a segment of that locker room that loves his leadership in his approach, and they're trying to push Carson Wentz that direction not doing it in the best way possible. They're young people. They're inexperienced with the media. But that's all this is to me. And I think Carson Wentz will be better for this. Not all fake news stories or not all anonymous source stories are a bad thing or lead to bad. Vacations. There will be a conversation between Carson Wentz and some of his teammates this offseason. Yeah. He could grow from it. But oh Carson Winston buy. You a shotgun for Christmas. Everybody about shocker be careful talking about this boy with owning up to just be careful. It's the rare occasion when these types of stories are always. Jimmy's here to help us talk about our puja Raitis for saints coach, Sean Payton. What would it be like be catching? Would it be like? Beka funny, man. It's funny over here. Everybody got joked, right? Hey, go find out what visa when they get back to the locker room. Get back to the drizzling. Who who? Oatmeal raisin. Taking a look at highlight from our discussion earlier in the show about Sean Payton, don't treat Payton in the victims. They're not they're sore losers who made far more game deciding mistakes the referees did on Sunday. This is not a conventional case of sore loser. This is a team that if the referees is do their job in that one moment they're going to win that game. I'll give you the greater Balaji. If today, I leave here and go to a Buffy and choke on a buffalo wing and died don't blame the restaurant. Analogous. As I told you early in matters. There was no intent by the referee to harm to say. Who you sure about that? No that referee play for the Rams, you know that that'd be auto re-look. John. Peyton is a sore. Loser in a wine. Jimmy, what's your take leave the bees alone? What's your take? You really seriously defending these referees right now, get them kidding me. Right now know who who who is you Johnny Cochran for the referees. Let. Man. These referee's got saints blood all over the body. You ruined the glue don't fit so he had to get hit. The hell out of here about the slogan. Drew Brees you're still on the sidelines of the Super Bowl would tell police Trump tape around. Talking about the DNA is contaminated stopping listen met. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying they're not victims what audience. These being the Super Bowl and they're not 'cause damn referees. Didn't do their job. Dad sound like a me to Vic me. Tim don't matter. I'm getting ample let me get sample victim, then chair you say, no right there. Victor. Victim every goal is of your ten. You got you gotta lonesome coming. Right FOX studio. There are no victims in football, Jimmy Merck Alice. Yes, sir. Yes. Gals top. We'll that's what it'd be like you for me. Hello, my nephew, some money or. Debt that she's bed. He talking about yesterday it hurt eight hundred him a little more than when he led. No. Eight Hockley somebody James's pocket for these referees. Real top. How much you lose breaks? Hear that. Again. He was out in Vegas suit and crafts all set. There trying to make it rain Cardi Jeep. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Cardi, B, B B. What the hell I say. Can't afford. No Cardi B here. Kind of game. Only one in the family. They got game like that. Jim. Right. Tell you. They call me, then the toys Jimmy. Please believe me, sweetie. I got enough to feed the needy sneak up from behind. I give it that line. Say things to make a smile. What numbers? The dial. Hula would me girl. I'm at to pay you for that child. I might be old but Jimmy still cold. Oh, man, you let me get to my approval for Shana one is approving you. I'm not approving John pain. He's down in a lot of category. Well, this first time we've raised NFC championship performance in nineteen all time greatest seventeen character. Fourteen. People don't know this is not just bountygate Shaan Payton was a striker. He was a scab back in the NFL came in as a five ten quarterback. He was the original collar Murray as they scare authenticity. I'll get my nineteen. He is he is who he says he is. Stance on that picket line. Total of sixty nine role player right now for. Kills you should be in the Super Bowl a role player. I give them much more love that. He's a goat. He's a guy that they're trying to copycat. The Shah McVeigh is the next version of him. And they're trying to find all versions of Sean McVay and champagne who still has options out there. Twenty two job performance nineteen all grain twenty two job performance. He just cost him the game. He should have been running the ball. Wow. Should've been Super Bowl last year out of fire. Yeah. Right. Last two years. Probably had the best team should a little bit of editor eighty four go status respect he did have a gate so that character is a little lowered and it should be an author Tissot. He is we is doesn't shy away from the moments, and he goes for the jugular. I like what did you have Bill? Check rating yesterday, Dan, they're the same score house. Bella check on the same level with Sean Payton because Bill chick more gates. Jason is.

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#157 - "Gucci"

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#157 - "Gucci"

"Oh Hello there. Welcome back. The X nursing a show with me, your host casinos Inga. This is episode number one five seven coming at you live in direct from strategies London. How you do it? How you feel? Because a well. I'm fucking awesome. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling really refreshed. I've been do a lotta pushups these de LA past couple of days did about one hundred day, which feel quite good. It's weird. How much pow? How a few ups can really help define your chest. I something I should probably know after probably known a long time ago. But I've seen a lot of more foam come into my chest area and my arms against stronger as well. And in general, my muscular, endurance, being able to bag out templates easy to doing is is just again, you need to go examples in life to kind of Matete you already know. But it's just interesting. How? It's interesting. How? So so anyway, you just as interesting is kind of interesting. How can you do something propensity of long period of time it becomes easier to do? Right. So when I I I do push ups I had to if I was doing a Steph ten that the break them up into fives now combined wholesale ten as I can do twenty only one go about stopping which is amazing right with great form like put making sure my on my elbows, tucked in and pushing up not doing to the Christmas standards. And again, this just from doing them every single day. And honestly, I used to struggle lots to push ups. I I had that weird strength while could do a bench by couldn't actually do pushups. And the reason why couldn't do put us because guess what do push ups regularly? So the moment you start doing something more frequently the easer becomes. But again at the beginning is very difficult because you know, you're panting. You're breathing heavily you feel like you're about to drop dead. And everything hurts it's not really the best solution to be let me just remember it here. You don't. Oh. I don't feel good about how you doing it. But over time, you know, you get better and better and better and you start to slowly ambushed up some muscular, endurance and strength when it comes to doing pushups themselves. So I'm feeling really good about in the moment. I'm going to continue doing it on top of the running them doing at a moment. I'm having run for the last couple of days, but I'm gonna go run in this evening when I come from work and stuff should be good. And then kind of carry on until Sunday and get that going all the way Ford and apart from that was been going on violate interview stages over to stop being forced kind of finally top. I'm going to be starting a new role and Monday such should be quite interesting to come get back on that wagon. Again, it's been cool. These last couple of months have been an interesting experience, a kind of gopher, you know, trying to apply for things off the Christmas during the new year is not the most advantages time, I'm really a believer like us never guitar never guitar time. Sometimes, you know, their offerings outside of your control. Role that add to the issue of it not being a good time. And maybe looking for something looking for a new role during Christmas during the new year is a profitable advantageous time, especially because most offices like people working that usually closed quite early December or they sought winding down December. Usually the one time in the year where generally everyone takes holiday ever has a break even summer sometimes even because I've mentioned a few times though, with the prevalence of fucking festivals taking over the world and people and the cost of travel, especially mainland Europe, his drastically cheaper to what you wasn't a pass and some intentional flash. To quite chief people from ahead of time. It seems like everyone's getting a holiday right seems like everyone's gonna go to broad up even the summit. There's local to stay behind and don't really go knew it. But Chris one time with people tend to take time off work and really kind of, you know, take the break the break that's given to them. And this year is been no different. I felt like anyway, I felt like Olympic Committee here. Ear. They're good most move up and over here and this year, I felt no different actually to with it. Because it seemed like every other plan for people are only getting back to me what elephant middle of January or something. I saw I saw pile all responses and that was with stuff I've been sending out applicastions from lack November's face. It just goes to show that maybe this time of the year from like, let's say October. Maybe February is maybe the slowest month in terms of kind of tied in Iran. Rightfully Rousson FM. I n that just for some good timing, and you know, lucky now and kind of apply for things I'm kind of interested in I've been able to finally get a row and I'm starting on Monday. I should be interested to do and see what goes from there. I'm really looking forward to the whole first week of like into no people, and you know, the whole audience deductions having to repeat your story about yourself to four or five times should be cool. It was a bit. I don't know if it was even I enjoy being a set of attention are finding I find those kind of things a bit cringing. Also, all wow, what's your name from the litter? This is the same. So like questions that you're used to used to kind of here in which is no no fool the person, of course. Because you know, you are the new person they generally didn't know you existed before that. But let's see let's you happen. This happens star. I want to keep keep my mind open and see how it will as when I start on Monday. But yeah, go new position starting on Monday and everything should be fine from then on apart from that taking a break this week DJ wisely do this weekend. Let me staying home trying to kind of focus and get my mind right for the Monday just want to kind of ease into it. And not going to be surprised by anything that should be interested in so doing that. And yet just chilling up. Yesterday was interesting wasn't it yesterday. United loss to not PS PSG, which was a result. I don't think offense expected to to see so quickly. Or to see actually level. I think as usual as football files, we always kind of our eternal optimist, right? Whatever we see any kind of light into tunnel. We always kind of hope that that's kind of the the turning point only gone socials on a really good job we night, so far he's come in. Really inferior kind of restored the feeling back in the club. Right. And he allowed us to kinda dream again allows us to be hopeful again, a small back on faces cost play more tech in full gosh to win possession, high up the pitch lows of interesting things that he's basically done right. And it kind of looked so far so good. But in the moment, we kind of faced up came up to real quality, our quality on the other end of the pitch injured, you know, back to back injuries to just lindgaard entity must shell and effectively Tulsa over as soon as they sculpt. We didn't really have any Frisco food, Matt Tocchet money. You know, he doesn't just doesn't have the pace to cut a really teams, and isn't probably ingenious enough in the middle of the positivity. Do anything Eva Sanchez just looks? I don't know that is that has been a website. Running a worse kind of high profile punches especially considering how devastatingly good. He was also he just hasn't really turned up since he joined United and all in all it. We've seen effectively that we acquire top-heavy team. Right. I think biolog- top-heavy our tax is where we're really potent. Right. A front free of Lingen mash lingo, rush word and Michelle can score goals against any side. Right. But the midfield still kind requires some attention. I'm not really sure if I'm the Harare and madij are the best accompaniments to pull pub material, you could probably do upgrade in buffet. And where we really loves down is definitely indefens-. I think of back free of like of bay and young you just need more from them in terms of bringing the bull out of out of out of defense and intimate 'field. You need just need more on the bull. We need more inept sense. You just need more from them. And unfortunately, just don't. Have it? It's not their full their community what they can do within that kind of talent range overnight Bill range. But that's why a lot of investment needs to be put in and I would be it would be it would be really negligent. If we went into the new season next year and did address that I was annoyed with, you know, Phil Jones that log in contracts ascensions as she not so much because you know, he's done a good job on blow the pro, but Phil Jones cut again hundred was a bit annoyed because you know, he's definitely showed us that even even without injuries just to level that we need. He probably is a good backup center backout say, but maybe not a good starting not maybe definitely not as at about for a United, especially if we have emissions to win the league again with the Champions League. You just can't have it in front of that level, you need something more. So by getting the transfer market just so of price these days, so it would blow I'm not sure how we're gonna get if we're gonna get the for cheap the become looking at those Manila sat rumba does a kid. Delights deletes are the seventeen year old kid, I exit people look at us looks pretty good. So if you that there obviously coulda evaluate we've been talking about religious new contractor station. So I'm sure it won't be cheap to get him out of that contract law people out there that we should probably be go for and hopefully, we do, but by large every Beverly check I don't think this is a thing that should kind of you know, hamper social chance of getting a job. I still think it's a big job. Anyway, I think the Mitchell is always been a weak spot for United. I think over the years we have failed to coveted address even Joe size fences, period. I think I think for Lenny might have been the first new midfield that we bought in like maybe since suspects retired. You know, like an actual knew that when he came in. He was like the new Matilda we'd never ever built lifted before we kind of always kind of may do the people that we had put square pegs run holes. But now, we definitely just at the global. Which is not going to be cheap up by large PSE will kind of webby winners. The goading of de Maria didn't seem to work is definitely turned up more. So than he did anytime. He was he was quite annoyed to see fep lights latte. He he took a lot. Stick out. Trafford got got Bebel from him push into the stands by actually still manage to kind of turn in amendment format. So he did really well in that game to which is annoying behavior by lodge at this point a game for us. And hopefully, we, you know, we we show a shop at solves in the return leg, it could get embarrassed second return leg we could go out there and try to attack just pick us off of the counter-attackers. We still have scary baptize pace was. But I'm hoping that we can kind of give us something to shout out when we went to Paris this basically, no risk or not in any way. Because kind of the game is over on paper. So it will we should be going out there tried to do something. But it's a bigger city with must shower out in. Options often that aren't that. Great. We've out to change the way we play without the play five midfield and have one front in terms of that way. We're going to play for free whether to go to play with about those players might need me by the combustion the youngsters coming up to the first team. But it's going to be tricky tricky ended the season seems like if does plays out for sustained period of time. But hey, hope that happens what type of when you stop playing top level. I guess anyway away from football stuff to talk about updates updates updates number. One update is on the whole Gucci black face the buck would that kinda rolled out over the last few days. I was here made some comments by the Monday. And I think having kind of four about a bit more and really meditate on what's kind of going on. And just kinda Ford about it a bit more. I don. I just don't I don't know. How constructive are them know how what why oh constructive responsibly is to council Gucci for the black face debacle? That's going. I sometimes being like, no actions should eat it, you shouldn't be judged fully action. She may be just for the buddy of what that you kinda produced a spa. I think Gucci since they've hired at a southern mckanie. They've got going from strength to strength. Of course. He's kind of restored the house kind of Britain back to the levels of influence. It might have had when they were under the helm of Tom Ford, and he's really kind of restored this great feeling around Gucci feeding of nostalgia feeding of opinions of feeding of accessibility. And for that, you know, he's obviously kind of leaned in mostly with the kind of hip. Hop crew or hip appro, hip, cultural, black culture, and we've kind of taken them in kind of kind of really embrace them revenue cutter represent. And of course, along the way, they kind of had a couple of missteps, you know, the whole deputation, but it quickly rectified that gave me on the tiller of you've gotta what basically in house with Gucci has intimidate hall of the economy runs a similar to this the stuff that he was doing the AT's. So essentially they've kind of corrected. Those wrongs they've kind of you know, they are very much for gifting undressing various hip, hop acts that we know love. I'm sure behind the scenes, they probably allow give people discounts and stuff. So they do a love great work, right something. They don't need to see many luxury brands you've kind of got out of their way to kind of discipline to be associated hip hop. Right. They don't want any activities association and yesterday collaboration but good you have really embraced hippo community for the most part. So I think their actions are quite genuine, right? I think they are really about the culture. And I think the Blackfish jumper is if anything just a misstep on their part because it probably have anyone in their offices who is of who come from the cultural understands what it means significance of it right of seventy get it again. I don't think there's some commentators say, no everywhere too sensitive. We complain about everything and everything out of this every agree with that. I think sometimes. You need to cool things out for exactly what they are. But I also think sometimes true things can just happen. Don't necessarily have the intentions that you may think they have intentions. Oh, that jumper could just been a jumper. They looked quicker Japan extension of the Bannock lava schemers spin, they do right. It could just be that. We just don't you actually don't know what intentions by thinking nowadays, you know, with the whole with how we are on social media. There is a tendency to maybe council people council brand by think Gucci in this case publish shouldn't be council because by large they have been a big supporter hypocrites distri. And also think they addressed it in a really good way responded quite quickly. The politicize down the the item one of their champion made a lovely statement kind of you know, really opponents will happen. And now a century Alexandra mckennie himself made a statement now, but he's a statement onto stopped. I'm going to read out loud that kind of echoes the same sort of force. And it says the following to the day colleagues. I have I need to write to you. All these few was to give you a name to give a name to the pain of these days. My own doubt that people who saw in one of my creative projects at intolerable insult is important to me to let you know that the jump actually had a very Pacific reference completely different from what was described instead, which is which we can understand. It was attributed Lee. Barry to his camouflage are to his ability to challenge Bhutto's conventions and to conformism to ease its Centric as a performance extraordinaire vocation as a mess grader met as a him to freedom, or this makes sense in become view of how he kind of did that really messy lipstick southway with kanobi edges is before cardiac KENDALL, by the way. Maybe definitive converse, really barrier doubt. But anyway, the fact that contrary to my intentions at tone. Dick, jump a racist. Imagery causes me the greatest grief, but I'm aware that sometimes actions could end up with causing unintentional effects. It is therefore this so taking full accountability for these for these effects, which is know admirable in that regard for this reason, our company immediately apologize redrew the government at producers controversies as you may have read from Marco. And his letter we are putting in pressures of immediate actions across the world that will increase exclusivity diversity participation in cultural waiters at any level, and any place we are truly committed to facing what happened as crucial learning room for everybody is always for now dig thing. I'm not that you know, I don't know. It's it can get it can come across behavior handed. I don't mean what they want. They're going gonna do. They're going to start hiring black people or their stores and stuff actively only to kind of increase in creativity. Diversity I'm not really sure that's the right thing because it's not. It's not just a black issue. It's an issue of cultural awareness. So no that people are that culture where people out at buffet on our affiliate with a see suffering right obsessive about including the right type of voices in the compensation. But most of most of that is about that cultural is about understanding what's happening now. Because I think what we're seeing now in the last few years lost decade or so with the prevalence of hypocritic growing and growing where see this influence that is very different art forms. Are these coaches have within commerce, right? We'll see how imported with seeing the effects of it more visually that we probably understood in previous may because incident may because ocean meet other what it is. With seeing how influential influences artists DJ's wherever they may be special. Socialized, whoever these people are will see what influence they actually have them come directly. Right. We'll see if embrose was top as she posted a unique link of it to fashion over and people click it they can see they can track. How much traction Ambrose takes their website. They can track. How quickly Ambrose top sells out on their website. We can see it. Now. Black Welsh it. This person's really culturally relevant. Right. We tap into them weans associate with him we to lend up with them. So because of that there's even more responsibility on our end as buyers lets consumers or people in the culture to be very cognitive and be very well who we are given attention to and who is bidding on money with. So if they do anything that kind of like rubbed off the wrong way, the best way to protest the best with the kind of make them understand what to make take no is is to stop buying what they're making right. But I also think within that process on the brands in the things on the stand that if you're directly market. To a set particular demographic particular kind of cultural base, EPA user. Particular subsector people you need to have those people included right in the messaging right in the design in the iteration pro-soviet doing when the consultation, they need to be consulted. Some on the other. They have to be included in conversation. You contra preferring out shit to people and not having voted just doesn't make sense only way. That's the only refreshes the only place that always happens. Right where they kind of escape was infighting. There were pushing will these fucking cringe. Webby skateboard editorials. Right. But had no basis skateboarding write that off completely tone dip. I just have this model Steinbeck's escape with of choice. You some do from palace right now. I was just fucking shit. It just didn't make any sense. But at the moment you start including people from that scene into the process of design into the personal consultation. The process the effects of the input become a little bit more polish. They become a little bit more nuance. A little bit more point. That's what happens. So it only serves a brand of best of to include people like us in the conversation about give him at least we like the culture. And if ever they don't is when we get these Beckman's jumpers. So who they consider diversity conversations included it, it's not just a quota thing. It's not just the bad about is about reflecting your customer base. And if you're going to directly cause market to them, bring them into the compensation don't just have them on the outside, and that's been happening in the fashion industry, right law like gatekeepers and people just trying to make sure they're they stay set of a job, a low of nepotism, right? Hiring of the same people from the same scene for a particular family name by figure slowly. But surely changing you see even with the streets. Stop pictures. Right. People are feature though, she top pitchers. They look like me, and you right there there from all over the fucking world right away Brian's. They've smashing brands to give her the head to toe in different things you never expect him to be in. And I think they need more. We need to see them more including more in the designed attrition process that just sitting on the runway or just standing outside of show or walking down the street. That's all well and good. I'm happy that's happening. But we see more active participation that. And so I'm hoping what good is doing. Is it just going to be hiring more black and Brown people in their stores? Right. I'm hoping that it's going to be a more active role, given given black and Brown people who are involved in making your brand more of an active role in what goes into making your brand. And what goes into the campaigns? What goes into the editorial 'cause into the runway? We'll get into what makes it onto. What makes online? What how you do? You imagine dicing get those voices involved and you'll avoid these backfires conversations. That's all it takes really. Because what you see when you see the black facing is not that is -fensive is that it tells you that there's no one in that company that understood that that could be offensive that's their issues like fucking hell there was no company. No one or no with a loud voice because you see for show. We don't understand your McKinney isn't a racist. No, he doesn't have those bigoted views because he's very he's been very open very aware very unhappy to kind of tap into that. Well, right to have to be associated with the names are in that while these actively go village to do it. So he's attention. But you know, it means that know, how company there's no relieved that looks like access debt. And that's and that's a scientific considering just how how important of a customer base over influence. We ought to their overall market to their overall revenue shrimp better way. Because the statement continues I've always fought to wait for to myself, and any of the possibility different of Headley been for a Holly been for this all over my personal parley been produce. I've hardly been for this fight all over personal life and later brought her into my work here. I was always tried to give citizenships right to the traditional marginalized to those who felt unrepresented those the history. Silence and made by may believe they were weapons my aim in which personal and political intimately woven has always been to turn the pain into Chun, therefore voice what to let the measure is loaded with joyful inclusions emerge. Imagine imagery is able to celebrate diversity and every form imagery able to empower images to favor empowerment and self determination process. This is these are the things I believe in a really short of the suffer of really shelter the suffer. All I have offended that I feel hot felt sorry for this her. I hope I can rely on the signing of those who know me and commercial concentration towards the celebrity diversity in that shape. My work. This is what you said abrasion stunned for that's a great apology in. I'm. Sure. For for sure that central Kelly is very sincere. What you saying? I'm sure he's an I would I would say he's action really proved that he's about the cultures faces a misstep for the most part. I don't think we should have counsel Gucci again. I just think it's a wake up call for the fashion issue Jonas to address these obvious Brian spots, right where they don't include people in the conversation. They are dressing to. That's the problem. I think everyone had better in the later years. I think the first couple of questions when they were supposed to seen. It was a well and good to see a completely white cost of models. Right. Thrills. I didn't even know is right. Because there were the representing a particular kind of Fetig capable particular place. Dennis from Georgia eastern bloc. Right. There's a particular harsh Soviet influence seeping fruit of brand, and you know, by large. I would assume you probably didn't grow up people from different places of the wall. All we did it did grow people that look different than what he looked like. Right. So I can imagine the first couple of touches did us coming from. But in the soon AS Roma's I pick it up, and you saw people that looked like me wearing it. Right. Or he saw Asia people were who probably the biggest kind of consumers of the Brown by large if you click visible hashtags Instagram, you only gonna see black mcinally people. That's it. Right. Where the brand it got a little bit tone-deaf. It got a little bit it didn't remake sense when he what including those races in the catwalk right 'cause catwalk runway show for my whom what I think of it. It's like a living look book. Right. You are essentially. Trying to give you try to provide a visual imagery, a kind of, you know, a moving pitch of what suppose by look like on the person wants to buy them. Right. And usually you want to see someone that looks like your runway or somebody. You wanna imminent look around win the eager to tap into your brand. It's just kind of tap into the casino based on kind of went away. You'll put and put out this kind of build this kind of all my God. I need I need. I think of my wardrobe. So that's my world doing. That's why people kinda got that annoyed. I wasn't really annoyed by just because I wasn't because of the whole like, oh, let's just include by who for the sake of it or Asia for secretary all just for sake of these the people that are actually buy into your Bryant. Why not have them on the runway just didn't make any sense? Because obviously, I'm from the street where world where for the most part sheet where brands putting look books and they're put up shots. They usually just use a friends, right and friends usually kind of that from all over the world, right? They cover the United Benneton ministry Rembrandt. Right. And it only makes sense, right? Because you know, by large kids die industry where? Don't really come from one place. Right. They come from all over the place. So it I've never ever not seen different colors different races, different heights, different genders on runway shows on collection. So whether a company coming up into Mostar that obviously had a love street, wet influenced. Positionings or products of stuff and do the approach things and the customers are buying them from holy wide swath of social economic platform. It only makes sense to kind of included when they did it. They kind of let the out of them up but to month that good, and they kind of cracks it Costain couldn't people runway everyone's going to forgive him. So I think in this case Gucci need to be afforded the same kind of room to grow into polarize for the kind of move forward into learn from it. Hopefully, this is a learning experience. Hopefully, we do see more of an active representations inside the design studio inside between, you know, there are people out there that would want to what could probably might not have the Commissioner's might not have the in to govern their, but they need to be given a platform to kind of go in and hopefully see that going forward. Again. I I tell us. Andrea isn't a racer won't say he's a big at any kind of way. I just think it's one of those misteps I happened to the company when you don't you don't really have anyone in that is culture where which is shock really considering you know, it's a big. Luxury fashion house, but you know, everyone can be aware of offing. So let's give them a let's let's give them the benefit of doubt. And hope it was just a one thing and hope that we've kind of with this consultation. I think that that is going to have with the good you see yoda's come up in a few weeks, and hopefully with some changes they want to enact we see some change coming up shortly with Gucci. Yeah. That was a story that they've built over the last couple of days for took about. List? You got the Gulf wearing spring summer two thousand nineteen little book, which looks gray as per usual is Tina is to nineteen why the two zero two thousand eighteen book that twice before. I think I have. Anyway, look at anyway, as per usual, man, the is doing the damn thing easily. Right. I'm out of I'm not sure we actually appreciate just how important either crater is. To the old scene of row is we don't really appreciate how much of a good job. He's done intuitive highs position himself on the industry MS influence, when it comes to the festivals when it comes to the things that he doesn't music fashion, but he's really fucking good at this fashion ship, and I really appreciate him because with the clubs that he's made, you know, he was he he kinda worked for a Bevere tubby time with future of odd future match in that kind of got taken away from him a machining or a soda essentially happened there, but he was not really voted anymore that kind of a brand metro kind of exists. Only thing you just kind of chose out inside the people wear by then excite during Gulf and now it's sort of like involved out of just being a standard much brand. And this kind of grown with his of Russ Fetig too. He was always someone that kind of dressed a certain kind of way before you. Call them shows report up soaks environments and the older he's he's kind of maturity's wardrobe and his brand is active infection event. That's always something. I'd like to see. See with cloven brands all with individuals have brands and just like when Browns are a direct reflection of the owner themselves of the of the brand owner, which is why I love like regards, right? He looks like recoveri- and old future. Also entire the credit. Looks like golf, and it just looks great overall every season scam, Barron bear, it seems like he's improving seems like the cotton. So's getting more sophisticated is take it a bit more risks. And you ever like about it? A lot is the colors is probably one of the rare designers out at the moment, especially for especially in the kind of hip hop scene. Who's kind of strays away from doing black looks like there's never ever black. Look, it's always Loza colors this bulletproof vest, quote unquote is called the violence around in the front and yet it's like a green like a bright green bulletproof vest. We don't use you see everyone use those black and the guy's gonna little hand Scoffing his hand. Like, it's always great colors. That's why we like about I'm tired of Craig's collection. Did you always going for colors and? Given the consumer telling to take a risk telling them not to just go for the safe the safe option trying to take take some risk a little bit. Like, we're like this little kid with the pink cable, jump some Keke some olive green shorts white socks. And what they forgot the brandy shoop untied way to refute Padmore or Padmore shoes finished what collaboration coming up soon. So just taking a few more risks like with cloven and every really appreciate him. And I think it's fucking awesome. And again, I think most stuff is available online at the moment. And if you want to check them out online, so you can this with his fucking awesome color tracks. Fucking awesome. Great. I love this look with a grandma or the grandad a cardigan Todd has been wearing quite often these last couple of days, and by large is a great collection. And obviously. The down jacket in infl- in flora, which reminds me of woes at brand does that old LA primates do lows of floral is take my old couches until them into hoodies Rimba, upholstery for the name. It just reminded of that. Again, this co is somewhat late with a little flowers on them. And till he yet once again big up. And of course, time signatures like Katie green color is always a big fan of debris the area would tell only at greenhouse peer. That's great so tired of krill Gulf Wang will win the two thousand eighteen you can check out feel viewing pleasure for ELO, quite interesting. What else is next on the list here by being buddy being but a bone Kiko in Tampa? Oh, these really really nice actually ky-ko has kind of risen risen to prominence on Nova's the promise assays been doing doing good bits here and there right for a long long time. But I think one thing that he's really really good at is collaborations, especially when it comes to sneakers. He's a I think maybe that Sadugov is that to do with being a good designer like being actually when designer to able to really plug into a brand and footwear. Brandon. Just kind of do something really nice. 'cause you know, how to design stuff from scratch was we'll gives you kind of silhouette to cut a runway is so black probably easy. What from us as is. Right. Like, I think of someone like Jeb Edison. He's re does good singer Carla sodas Kiko, but he just hits them out a part for the most part, and he stuff that he's doing campus been really interesting because. From you know, in a in just a conventional sense, they're incredibly ugly. Right. But they just look good for some reason. I don't know how. But they look good at the at that. There's a real tension between her ugly. They look and how good they look and the issues are are, no exception. They kind of remind me a little bit of the kind of shoes you to get like an shoes on in Stratford shopper more at like five pounds. Right. And that usually usually most Asian kids in my in my Indian kids in my in my school where wear with the fucking message strep, and he looked like they look like even when he put them on. They look at the wrong way around by getting awesome. I'd actually wear them. That's the thing. So they looked so horrible. But I'd actually weather so vocal shop was always a bit behind. So I remember how to pair of velcro strap kicker shoes, I both from the fact bacteria longtime ago now a hard to kind of you sell by friends with them, they kind of flawed. Okay. Canadia wearing them because you know, vocal shoes have way coalitions tools. Mm-hmm. But I loved him by I understand the contradiction skies have with wide vocals, especially when you're over the age of seventeen may be one to way voca shoes. But I feel like this model it seems like he's finished new cut. She's done quite a couple of new models for Kemper as you can see here. Could these the AUSSIE go there? These are Angels' look fucking buying actually love the soa limb. Nervous member parents over some cutouts. Another black one was from to by think of black with a strap for be my favorite so far out one of them. But yeah, Kiko a collaboration with Kemper coming up, very very sued ice Schumer, the due to come here should have a day actually summit of pressure. So quite interesting too. Don't they okay down screen, but they're due to come out these fucking pups on online. Did you to come out on the twelfth? Oh, they came at one yesterday. So check those out if you want to purchase. You can bring Kiko else's next t on the list. Per Oba's, yoga spring summer two thousand eighteen campaign video looks fucking cool very matrix or berry, essentially mattress inspired. And yet it just goes to show how on the power on the Powell how much you have to do nowadays, the garner attention gun views or to kind of, you know, really tap into was going on the digital landscape at the moment. If you're a brand you call it's not just enough happy to good runway show shoe campaign shorts. You have it has to be a Listrik thing has to be all encompassing. And of course, last cut ship for Bill geography, which was springs. So but wasn't tepola joke. Like, should it was very much fierce futuristic influence those at Mazen tunnel would kinda with graphic swagger rounded. There was loads of free d printed of suiting out. They did in the last couple of seasons. So low of steering towards that kind of disturbed pin? Futuristic whiled, of course. Some of the glosses. They've been pointing out recently have lend themselves to the whole matrix. Phil by full video, really cool. I'm gonna play a bit of it now. So you guys couldn't see it yourselves by matrix video inspired video from Balenciaga which you can check out, but Betty baba deba-. Let me play here on screen, but. But. Those with. Where all public. It's been a long time. All people. I love the says that shares a really awesome. Great suit to shoulders. Video show graphics. Puckett was break. This editing on soccer videos their comeback into both. We. Pepperoni. Probably the action. Get up many hours. Great use agrees. Genius. Isn't he? Great outfit. Out. Thinking them Bevis actually for the glasses. But we are probably is probably obvious to see that. We're getting the best of them at Balenciaga right finesse often at known committee argue with think over the years as as the years have trend have kind of developed over the years as as time has gone as time has gone by over the his finger with demonstrate supposedly being split between bells Mba's yoga was seeing his best work at bless yoga. Of course. Maybe the platform the resources have may be and we'll see tomorrow now be turning more into off project seems like from the outside looking anyways. That's where he kind of goes a bit crazy, and does what he will crazy. But he goes he kind of defies conventions where he kind of stays away once because should previous loss was kind of based on Georgia influences. The question recently, Debbie behind it was kind of based on that dog web influences. So he's kind of you know, doesn't it? I it seems like he kinda doesn't spend as much time as he did in the beginning, which obviously makes sense. And we kind of get more commercial polished version of his vision. Appalachia the influences from of his industries is obviously. But I think he just doesn't really good job of understanding how to appeal to DR kids like me, right all the people that kind of give ship. References are looking a bit deep into deeply into things and just just a kid who's campus of by devastate Marquel? Decided off loom and once by lack of a fresh kkob. Dateline ordered evening like he knows the pay applicable people, fitness. That's usually the that's a very red Tallaght to have how to appeal to like cut of the culturally aware people and the people that just want to look fresh on the weekend. It's very hard to do. And LA doesn't really George doing at the moment. So yeah, I recommend you check that out by large sugar in out of older big luxury pressures out of the moment. They're probably my favorite dot com. Kind of keep an eye on what they're doing. What else have burned the all talk about fast fashion? Yeah. This is fucking fos. So this story's really funny are founded on diet product. So I think essentially what happened is Kim Kardashian posted an image on the Instagram of of an outfit of a dress that she hasn't worn in public yet. So the caption goes as follows right go through old fitting picks found this gold looked at Kearney. Made for me for my Miami trip last year. I went with the Neal, viruses that Pierce, FOX Brennan's. Can you please wait until I way this roll up before you knock it off? And so essentially, she Nokhanya Mehta. The distress that. She didn't get chance to didn't get to way. And as soon as he posted, the insects have Bauge free hours later misguided had had it available like how they on their on know what you're on the Instagram feed. And it's going to be available to buy now. And that is essentially that is even even more than fos fashion. That's like other that's terrifyingly quick and misguided. Capture images the devil works hard, but misguided works harder at concussion very few days before this drops online cheeses Christ. And it's just interesting because dia part of all this is the new angle of collaboration is just apply in the beginning to kind of get. A little little apply to announce a collaboration in the first place. I'm not really sure I wouldn't read I wouldn't be cynical. And I think it's just in general, you know, it just happens to be that she posted it and misguided copied out of the early collaboration. Bought it does for me. Interesting. Question is intellectual property, right? And who has the rights of things, right? 'cause you see a lot happening with Virgil and he gets out of steam people designs, but he kind of goes way to say he doesn't really categorize stealing. It's just referencing his brain when it cut with essentially when you put something on the internet is Fred game. Any kinda take it remix and do it in their own way. Which is something we can all get cows, come home. But is there something is there? A is it is it fair love and war when it comes to just taking something and making euro because sensually Konya designed this distress. It's a it's a it's a dress. That was that didn't exist prior to Kim Kardashian. Person Instagram, and essentially, we've got up now taking address and decided to remake it, you know, Fred by Fred or image by image and input it available to sell, and you know, I fashion browser bit. It is for ages essentially fast fashion brands are doing this because consumers want that right because necessarily fought to buy stuff on the runway what that looks fashion steps in. And if you don't have any scruples don't really care about the environment. You don't care about working conditions that so Manal Qian, you know. Wastage you'll go in there and buy your selene copy from Zara, right? You gotta go by your like fake bombing genes from high today may be you're gonna go by that look because as you just want the look we don't care about actual label right which is fair enough. And I think that's fine. But I the what happened in the future if we'll get so point where people can start cooperating shapes copywriting material. I for instance, there's nothing stopping someone taking the supreme bucks logo hoodie and just writing whatever they want in the textbooks, and then reselling it themselves. Right. I think even baba Krueger has been quite funny. I think was prem- suits and company for using the bucks logo supreme spelled box or the reference books. Rely Davis from Barbara Kruger. So I think that was quite interesting development rights, the brand that takes inspiration Dentsu somebody else we're taking that inspiration. So when they will happen to the future to get with someone could actually copyright a t shirt design, which is no. Okay. Hawaiian this now 'cause you call copyright address or trade as particular kind of dress ticket kinda shape. What is would also doing themselves? I guess maybe. Creative integrity. If you're an actual creativity. Actually can about the work you're doing you. Don't want to be known as the guy will go that copy stuff. I think that's the thing. There's something about your peer group. Right. Maybe something you maybe talking bad about you don't want that to happen. But by large if you care about commerce, you care about making money data feed, the general public cares that much especially if you go out there, and they're out to have any scruples out. You don't have you W hold of the whole referencing as highs more virtuous people do people actually that it. So here's if tension between what the customer base expects from you. What your pig route one? What y'all kind of RFID designed for designers at what you want to do in terms of making money by yet. Interesting pushed over by the moment misguided obviously again taps into that market ready. Well, they must make money handed for fists with stuff. But again, it must be annoying. If your celebrity in some way, shape or form because I know for me. There are times. I remember back in the day. Even when you postal sneaker for these to be a time when some people did like posted their shoes aware because it will be copied them. Right. You you'd find your actually actual actually being sneaky hit back in the day. Right. I'll take the screen being an extra sneak head back in the day mid that you are you at digging deep into the archives. Right. You'll scarring internet scarring, your stores, go to Teague ticking max with places and try to find gems that was actually will sneak as about sleepyhead wasn't about buying up. T flipped addition shoot at Georgia fucking pegos out on Nike retro puts out either. Rachel's puts out right now that this essentially play up to his right, and every lychee every shoe comes out. Let's say I don't know five nine ten shoes come out imitation by the very nature right limited edition. They put the press briefing. They put out a books. Elliott Elliott, Elliott everywhere. So they play it's we have, you know, consumers of sneakers by larger sheep really have many. There's no collective empowerment with sneak heads as customer base for the most part. It is a sick with the people who just want their shoes don't care. Some people say when people who do ever it takes by recently gore pays will prevent a prices. Some people buy something because bills warrant by remember when I used to post crooked tongues, the actual point the biggest kid go out you'd find models that no one else knew a hall, and you kind of make them cool again. Right. Wherever's Essex high-tech where the Dora Mizzou reveals obscure editor. Shootout wasn't really in vogue at the moment. You do ever took to kind of go out there and fight really rashes Knowles wearing Ravitch don't see around Raritan like Ted will made and just wear. Right. I remember had these pubis shoes of these possible like high mid high tops our like coveted cheetah print by going off in the spring sale. And that's where the rights are bulletin put them in ice for like a couple of months outside wearing. Although no in store anymore and people go freaking out by both for twenty pounds. Right. But was era where people didn't wanna post issues they want to know. So. Why is up for whatever it is? I don't know. But. But back then was much fun. It is nowadays of nowadays. Sable choose being retro two million times in different Calloway's, people still are clamoring for some reason. I remember I should yet clip right before of how much it would cost. If you buy every single Jordan retro from last year. I think something like thirty thousand dollars or some shit proceeded may be that whole collection by the two free shoes that you actually want to wear every fucking garbage. So there is over saturation fucking flooded. The monkey shoes is doesn't editor anytime soon. But again, man, I wish those more. It was just more in innovation. Osho's more. Creativity. When it came to what's Nick has actually where for the most part. They're actually wed that many interesting shoes man, they don't wear interesting ways. It's the same old shit. But again, you know, maybe the market cools for that may be involved. I'm taking the starts trying to make things different myself. So I compared to blame myself. I regard either way it's cut a to see where sticker culture has got to nowadays. Cut a food coloring proven kinda get bit. But hasn't really happened in that way. But what can we do move forward? Oh, Shek west alleged domestic abuse case, not to be laughed about unless funny. Puppy touchy to talk about because again this alleged. We only were we've only got one side of the story effectively from in sky, who's when she went on a Bevo media, total prior this kind of getting out in public again a second time talking about it. And she seemed quite hesitant to really mention who it was. I think if you will read them forms and go onto south you would have known it will check with that. She was leading that supposedly was mentally physically abusive to her when their relationship, it was the price to everyone even worse relationship. We didn't know that. We didn't see them social to give up because you're mostly in relationships on social in nowadays are posted about racial, social, but we don't necessarily see that from them. So it was quite shocking to hear about it altogether and shook into the shocking, but it was a of here by from just in sky too. Because for the most part, she's been fairly quiet and Freddie private until talking about her personal life. Right. She tough kind of guarded. I think a lot of people have attributed that. To the reason why she has necessarily spin. 'success why she would help to be successful because he seems limit to polish necessary showed Yvonne abilities in the edge where people cry though, social media and being overly dramatic, right? It kind of baby cold for you. Let your God down a bit. And social media by very nature is quite possible is quite a. You have that puzzle issue you're able to directly of the two directly. So maybe coast for maybe Larry goddamn being open. I don't know what is true or not. But some people say that's why she's not as she cut should be give given the talent given. Connections giving them able that on. But you know, here in the story was just like, wow, that's fucked up shit happened in it. So now, it's kind of transpired is kind of rolled on again. And we have a more of more and allegedly. So the real story goes something like this reading is high fees single sky has accused of abuse of their he called him out. She took the Twitter Monday to reveal that request west reportedly abused her in the past when they were couple most recently claimed that he along with a group of men stoke Tyler friends attack tech, which is you know, story that came out of the weekend. All couple of this goes over to which is kind of horrible, you'll prophetic shake, and you beat women. She wrote the first tweet you hit your go before be anew again in the same tweet. She states that she was on a walk with some friends at my man when the alleged took place in recent recently her boyfriend, Goldman addressed the abuse allegation. Guest Wesley, so unquote just this year. So, yeah, it's just not unfortunate state of affairs. Right. I think by lodge, and again, we've already got one side story. We don't exactly know what actually happened. But again, it's just, you know, I don't know. I don't know what's going on with these kids abusing yell. It seems quite a prevalent thing with books like young hip hop artists. Again. Maybe it's because of the, you know, you get money, and you get frame so early life in that kind of heightened emotions and stuff. But I kinda certainly see myself pitcher hit in the woman's relationship. With just doesn't seem like the thing to do at your in love with somebody especially considering the power that we have the way were able to confirm those around his strike, the woman just seems like the worst possible that you could do especially if you wanna win and all kind of immediately counseled anything, right? You had to say and generally your hit someone defenseless released company defend themselves, if you get really into your rage mode. So it's seventy fair not part and just in general as well. It's just not good image representation. You want for the kids coming up? Right. Follow these people to see that is such a prevalent thing that is so such a normal thing and. Maybe it's not the Morphing. Maybe we hear about the stories. They get pushed out to us more, and they get dramatize. I people talk about them. And it kinda makes them bigger to what they are know about. I just don't I just don't know what these be happy to kind of bake Shaw these things occur anymore because we'd hate it to get serious at the moment. Now, they're just abuse cases. Right. They know they have they have crept into that kind of the Davis era where people are being. Face being disfigured or a bitter ending up dead and shit because that can happen. Also. Right. We've we know what crimes of passion was so fake for that has happened yet. But we we call it light be we called the we caught assumed that might happen in the future. So some it needs to change people need to take stunts people need to kind of address these things, and you just hope that it friends people in their circle are kinda put aside in Telugu how to go about life, and how to conduct of public because is this something to be said for the neck of ADA that these things are coming up more regularly. Right. Like, the fact that he's kids are going from soundcloud to YouTube too, big record labels to money being pumped into them and not being told how to conduct themselves. What is riper able isn't the right behavior in just kind of left to fend for themselves. Maybe you'd hope that their friends would step in cutting get involved, and they get I'm hoping true, hoping it's something. Has happened because you know, is just getting career started for something happened with ultimately would derail the other soom. So are the know how community deal with these cases? It seems like if he was if he was if he was white Shuman Republic council, right immediately alone. But maybe it gets bad place. Now where you know, you're not just been canceled due to accusations. That's probably a better thing. But also, you're hoping that if it is true that this is gonna be, you know, you go around like, hey and women that's not necessarily a finger should or can be doing. But you know, again, hopefully more comes of the story. Hopefully, we see a resolution soon. And hopefully, this learned probably won't be none. But Heyhoe can you do for go out to Justice guide? Her friends known as the someone get murdering his spoke by ex boyfriend at Mason, get rushed like these guys are absolutely nuts. Dead risky order. And he conned his these these rushing things as well. Confusing because these guys are worth millions. Right. And you know. America's probably the one of the places one of the one of the one the place while we don't wanna get into physical decay. Sure. Somebody because they might wanna see you people. Love get Sudak. They love suet everyone. Right. Does that video that guy in these office on these kitchen in his place kitchen, then he kind of spills some water flow tried to fool over Clemson compensation, America's are wild that shipment. Like they love good Mosul. So the Lahser one do is gonna be actively Stoker somebody in my car and jump down Russia, especially someone that knows the that want wanna do because you don't know who hit they could have those big could they could by by any kind of code of the streets just want to sue you get money. Okay. Cool. You're gonna hit me no worries. You got your temporary L, you got your stripes. I've got busted lip black guy. But now, the take you to the bike easy do that. This little something that you know, that's something that he won all your books is it really? So I don't really get that stuff. I understand that need for. Physical altercations to kind of settle disputes. Call somebody up you wanna one quarter up scrap somewhere. Converse about this whole jumpy I'll causing rushing randoms. This fucking is such a issues of the foot at other. Anyone anyone deserves a beaten that's gonna cost them a hundred a cost of like, you know, coup of a Bill like even my worst enemy. I would want to be just record meal. Right might wanna slap for ten grad. But no for a core. Bill. That's a hell of a lot of money to. Twitter. Good to risk of just hit somebody want to do that personally in my opinion. But maybe maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we do really hate somebody kind of do risky or just kind of get your hands on them by the it's just seems strange to me. But hey, ho will can you do. So hopefully that story kind of resolves itself and all part is can get whether into get to buy just because say to see this guy is a new art. It's just come out. And now he's been accused of some heinous crime by a person that doesn't necessarily seem that she would lead to lie about anything. And it's just weird because it seems like Sheeham. I wonder what's kind of on. Because for the interviews. It seemed that just in sky was really going to have a way to say anything. I think she kind of knows the way of her power of words or the power of a words, and she knows how she knows what she saying what the effect that. It could have these career. She's aware of it. She's very cooperative. Which is you know, it goes to show the ago. So she was really trying to go the way to say look don't mess with me. Don't fuck out of me. I don't wanna fuck over your career. Just get started me to Cologne. Right. But just know that I know just know that they know the public. She was kind of saying it and I came between nights. And all of a sudden she kind of now just snapped. And she's not no fuck basam. She's kind covered cover Saint. Maybe it's because you know, literally, this whole rushing thing happened but credit credit because I think women have position would just be wanna be vindictive and kind of getting get the person back share way. But she's very aware of how she's very aware that this could really derail these career and it could fuck him up for life. And you know, he could he could be changed. You could be a changed personnel. You don't know. So you don't want to necessarily do that. You don't take the enjoyment of ending someone's Creole? Maybe you do if you're really you're not kind of be to train. But yeah, I'm hoping against sort of hoping they get resolve it and everyone could cut a move on. And again, hoping lessons can be learned from it. This generation of the kind of hit women, and that's not really a coughing to buy large to be said. But you know, I'll say anyway. Next list. Support cooler g goes to pull could adjust. So the story a while ago. 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And how much of a lucrative business is people that own them and in new put it into stores unit and that ends up banning. Oh, absolutely frustrating. So yeah, goes uphill critic g get back up the choice going through a tough time at the moment now, and everyone kind of needs to Besse point regard inner get missile insurance. You're in you're in this urine hunt to hunt your property searching your money tied up in deposits few. Probably doesn't mean it is easy to see how quickly money can run out in that kind of space in time. Let's how creative it will contribute to culture. Demi contre be amazing nighttime that probably was soundtrack to your youth. Always good to kind of be support them when they needed to. It's ready to come at reach out to us, but what they do Gaza. So like, I said go to pull Gaza pull could Aji put a link of the of the gopher meaner show description. So you can go donate to get back on her feet. But. What else is on here? Now Rogers Cresa festival jazz fans does copy festival LA boxed up it's festival season festivals festivals festivals everywhere. Everyone's fucking Percival. So yeah. Narrow just from Sheikh has his own festival. Fucking nuts. They're not so much as these festivals awake or as much festival sometimes, but sometimes just like an expert a concert outside. Right. So some of the relief festivals. Is Otis here is featured on. Versus the visor. He's got his own festival topic centre you're going to book an eight-day festival take this up by center from the if will. For the federal they never number one. One person's go festival, and then we have just cafe Lucia festival, which sounds really interesting. I think for me personally that the the. So just febblue festival in east London just to effectively Sundin maiden voyage, which looks fucking awesome. Right. Just good interesting sport. They do good gigs that interesting bookings. And the articles is fully risen advise any festival cold. Matt made the boys for the team behind just east London, August twenty fifth made boys will run Friday free islands, focus on jersey. Pope effort be in according to the press release still be just one stage with no frills will condense into once. More navigate space, the text, which is quite interesting. That's a real real throwback. Right. That'd be how they used to be. How does usually what councils do? Remember, what council some apology? That's because what it is like a some fate. Right. You just have one stage and actors come on to the vote or the stage itself new missions in between but not sitting. That's that's old score person for festival among the book for the debut. Maiden voyage Bradley zero. Josh peterson. Of course, show the Santos awesome. Tastes africa. The Billy buck. That'd be any bucks or ROY isn't madly? So seems like a really good lineup. Very click tick far reaching very similar to the kind of program. They have just cafe. So I'm looking forward to going one day one stage twelve to top ten pm on the free islands in free, which is fucking awesome. Those natural space fitness where they did a few. The festival day before the on the go is cool by Serena space, Bevere bitchy. Get two tons of de LA connections softball, we've got ten pm ever should be fine in that regard. All you can just cycle there. But yes seems like everyone is doing a festival now. I guess there's a lot of it has low of your money in the table. If you're just cafe, right? You, you know. The extra Obama you're earning from having a festival from tickets stuff. It's just makes sense to do anyway. Right. And they get it might be a better way to kind of people into your program, you get into just coffee might be a bit are going to get them unto the festival platform. But again, it's just great to see these festival popping up year in year out. Righteous keeps goes from shrimp to show. They're not stopping the festival people always putting the new nights festivals new festival festivals. And for the consumers, really because the most petition we have the better, the price the more competitive, the more competitive price, and we ended up getting these tickets for these amazing things, you know. Are you know, get see these amazing? It's a whole period of time that fucking awesome. So I really recommend. You check out made him boy festival come into direct from the jazz. Cafe crew. What's next here? But people oh Virgil selling war now. Right. So verges wobble came out with thinking announce a few weeks ago that he was a good to be creative director for sustainability or something like that. Right. Was the role that he? Crate direct credit adviser for sustainable innovation design and the boat was finally come out it looks. Okay. I'll say, right. I'm not that high for the most part, I have my things people that drink Reefer before reasonable wobbles. Anyway, if you've working office, you know, that person voice for concealing the flowers award and walking around, you know, dragging guzzling lethal liter war in the hopes of trying to balance out there on healthy diet and the unhealthy lifestyle. Always gonna run out of the runway like drinking war isn't gonna make you skinny isn't gonna make you fit right walking out and not eating fucking a six pack of timeouts probably do that. But hey, ho, what do I know? But refillable design is a collaboration with the Broncos Somo something that right or the movie the fuck summer is is a freeway collaboration. Evian reasonable free conversion between Virgil. So Ma and Evian Scott the rainbow inside on the on the outside in these quotes, and he come looks bit. So so right. It's not it doesn't look like there's any effort really into it. I don't really get the point of it Virgil is necessarily somebody that I would have scribe health and wellness to put most pop off always post pitches. Drinking green juice of for the most part is appropriate. But he is just just promote an unhealthy lifestyle right in terms of like, no sleeping and working around the clock. Which is something that he's able to do to really great success as is obvious. But for the most part he doesn't necessarily strike me as somebody that is overly conservative health. But maybe I don't know him that. Well, so it's a bit old that connection in that regard. But I guess in terms of just pure design positioning, it makes complete sense, right? If you're evidently wants to tap into that you've market you want to sell wool to to millennial kids will get them away. Get them caring about it may be tapping into the design on the. Right right now and get into kind of credit direct. It might be a good way. But it needs some more to it. I just come. We just have this. I think there's going to be more. We're gonna deputy more from the whole put by those just enough to get the product. We just need more of a story, we need some Lisa narrative to go with it when he's materials Isam when he'd like a win Needham, the website a dedicate site, dedicated Instagram page that promotes health and wellness that maybe talks about some things concerning the environment or why this item to use these refillable wobbles from Soma why it's a limited edition refillable. Warhorse fucking makes me laugh. No. And maybe it's just me the notion that there's a reef limited edition, refillable woods toys this fucking. Just the one of the greatest finesses ever known to man, right? It's the person that kind of balled up too, right because the laws in states America, you call actually turn rain will tend to drink water, which kind of get it was another strong, fitness right to make sure you definitely you definitely caught just happy. Happy by. In the store, but that's a great for this. Right. The dish in reasonable fucking crazy. And it's definitely going to sell out its or the the retailers are going to be the main kind of fashion stores econo- so's that right yet matches yet. It'd be Venables exclusive your matches come which again, you know, kind of funding itself. Right. A buying a waffle a refillable to refillable was about of matches is kind of a peak height based territory in that regard. But yeah, it looks. So so that so I don't really care. I wouldn't want it. It doesn't really resonate with me. I don't necessarily think verges a good fit for we for promoting being hydrated. And that song Malaki. I don't know. I think it might make more sense him do the whole green juice thing, which I think he my bed already, right? 'cause was drinking those things again. Maybe the kids will like it. Maybe kids care. I don't know. Let's see happens. I guess for him. It's just a great way to probably add more. So he's tall. CV get more money in the Bank and use as a platform to kind of, you know, show his skills in present. That's what Malaki I'm sure that's kind of wasting vicious in that regard. But yet. What what can you say? But it's just the one about it, really. Next on the list here. Heck the Bill in YouTube channel, this is interesting rice heck Bill arenas, been a fuller who has been much derided. Right. I think a lot of people have a lot to say about him, especially within the traditional football support is because he really he really kind of challenges the conventions retire it really challenges. What you think of he really kind of makes you think question what it is to be a more than they focused right now. 'cause he's all about the social media. He's all about health and wellness. He's about living. These very suffer way of talks. Really? Well, it's a strange, right? It's the strange commend footprint over because it will buy large. Don't like seeing if it will plays enjoy themselves outside of football, especially when the teams losing is something. We'd incredible plays where but will to see their plays out to dinner having a drink hanging out. They don't wanna see that Fink bay just live for football and train overtime all around the clock. And just would you wanna do dime briefing? Club will like it when the players place clubs just because the job they wanna believe all their players play for their club play for the club because they love the badge, which is which is never trooper. Hey, so hatred resumes. Interesting lately would be is injured at the moment. Now for quite a while. But he's been posting updates on his Twitter account. I'm integral by on there. And he's taking whoever's around the mistaken five Bolivia film pitches of his recovery process right of grave rehab. I think is a Brooklyn what it is. But it's interesting because he's turned his injury into content. He's made that into content. Dr Mike is into content generation platform neighbor to shave journey with his people kind of love him or him liking. But I guess it's just a different way of doing things nowadays, what is of something that you kind of have maybe have to do to keep your name around to came to keep your keep the buzz up of what you're doing again. I don't necessarily. I'm a fan of care for it. But it's just interesting what kind of. Doing by large. And now he's gone a full fervor, and he's doing is on flock. He's on YouTube. Not the moment, I'll play a little bit of it having a screen the of generally. Little clock enough. Been stretched off from. From the game against against Chelsea. Ofo something Melissa. Anyway, you just continues to Kim. It's that he's doing at the moment. And she just right. I see what is going to do go forward with something. We're gonna see more often for for below with become a bit more private because unfortunately, for football is when they do go super social and stumping goes wrong or they lose a game or they have a bad performance. The first thing go to the first they're kind of people criticize unlike the go to is that to social media, you see a little Benjamin medi somebody really unsocial heavy on the whole. Stories over time. He's always around and you see how. But he's really well when he's playing he's injured enough for a while. But when he's playing is really good. But soon he has a performance the first points of is kind of inequality of USA social media. But it seems like sports athletes Napa she fullest becoming a bit more aware and probably become a little bit more jealous as well of the US counterparts because in America seems like most athletes most Russian athletes can get away with just being on social media, Brooke and live away every may be it's it's not looked down upon in the same way. I don't know why. So I guess if you're a young kid coming up now, you kinda see LeBron James Russell Westbrook being so active in you kind of do the same thing too. So they kind of change in tactic, go friend. I'm I'm a big fan of it. Personally. I'm I don't really care for the whole injury update thing on with the film on it. That's that's one thing. But again, I think is good for the Hector rim brand. It keeps him is his name kind of out there for the most part, even though he knows he's role or even his job doesn't really call for him being always around in front camera because you know, in the days plays football Suzy's injured he'll play it's not bad that by a good positioning for him. But when he does eventually hang up his boots or does to time his career. He's Lenny can go into straightway. Right. He's built this kind of following social that you can kind of immediately kind of get involved in again. I'm a big fan of I think it's cool to see. And we probably see more of it in the future coming up soon. You never know you never bloody note. Anyway, that is an hour already Zinger show. Thanks so much for. Tuning in leave you guys from there are guys death already from from there from the English, please. Anyway, so much shooting in actual pleasure to have the company your company today this morning, if you're doing anything this week, I guess take care. It's only Wednesday probably not doing anything for the most part. But if you all take care of yourself and those around you out, we'll see you back again unexciting episode number one thousand levers, very soon piece.

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Full Show (Zeke, Tyreek Hill, NFL Week 2 Preview, Kyler Murray vs. Lamar Jackson)

First Things First

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Full Show (Zeke, Tyreek Hill, NFL Week 2 Preview, Kyler Murray vs. Lamar Jackson)

"Hi Ron Welcome to first things first. Some Jenna Wolfe fence the hall of Famer Chris Carter Berbere prepared on this Thursday morning. This is Nick Ri- Brother Fun. Show you say good morning. Jennifer neck bring up to watch. I'm a cut you hear all what I had on that. Watch people responded to that segment yeah. There's a lot of idiots out there. Yeah Absolutely I. I love that glossy. We gotta say hi to our guy. Lucas behind the scenes guy works on the show hard. It's his birthday today. Happy Birthday embarrassed the show. Let's go. We got a great show for you today. On this Thursday the newest chief is blown away by his team's offense. It's Big Ben is gearing up for Seattle's defense. We gotTA start with the Dallas Cowboys first time long time. We can talk Zeki Elliott without talking Kabul Abo- without talking contracts the cowboys had Zeke back in the lineup forgave one but certainly didn't need him as Dak Prescott mop the floor with the giants. Zeke rushed the ball just thirteen times in an attempt to ease him back into that offense but this week against Washington. The all-pro back says he's ready for the full workload slowed get closer to normal work lows so you're not had a couple of bruises but felt pretty fresh how close you ready to maybe a normal old workload this week. I'm ready now for a normal workload it just depends on how North Carolina coast on Sunday but talk about RTC Kellen. Moore put together great GAM game plan for the cowboys this past Sunday one that really let Dak Prescott China and didn't rely obviously heavily on Ezekiel Elliott. Do you expect a full workload for Zeke after only thirteen carries in his. I ah this is what I would like to do with Dallas. I believe Dallas's in a unique situation and very very few times team changed their characteristics and because Zeke Zeke because he missed a camp and because to hold out and he would like to think yeah now. I'm on my second week of practice. I'm ready for full load. Well no no you're not I would take it and live look at the schedule. I'm I've I've been trained by the NFL. I'm going week to week but I'm in TV now. I can look for the reason why you don't know Zeke's. It's going to hold out but also you don't know that schedule is going to turn out the way it is. You got the giants you got Washington and then you got my high school team from Miam- stowe for me what I would do is I would work him back gradually because I don't want him to get hurt. I wanted them to get ready for that next two game stretch being New Orleans and Green Bay so what I would do is I might have a few more touches but I want people to see another sixty to seventy plays of Kellen Moore more net passing game John King his impact on doctors the passer because I'm just going to tell you you put enough feeling out there with guys running wide open and hitting guys down down the field the NFL will adjust so by the time they need to go back and grind it out they would have enough video and the young young players Presley Michael Gallup and some other players Randall cobb not a young player but they would have tremendous confidence as you get into the meat of the schedule so they got a unique opportunity community and I would take advantage of it after seeing that film last week seeing the route combinations. I put another two games out there very strong so yes he might touch touched a ball another three five times more but it wouldn't be as physical was amused to a lot of those might be in the passing game and I don't often say this but I almost feel like you're cheating off my paper there see because I agree with you a thousand percent sitting in the front next okay no problem looking on the Uh April because he does have to do with the schedule if this were if they had weeks four and five in weeks two and three if it was New Orleans Green Bay these next two games names instead of Washington Miami. My answer would likely be different because I don't think Dallas is best offense. Even no matter how well deck plays is one. Where's e touches. The ball thirteen to seventeen times. I think their best offense is Z. Touches the ball twenty to twenty five times because he is still weak one notwithstanding not withstanding their best player but what is best for the cowboys in a very winnable road game is for deck and the passing game to try to continue this momentum awesome to try to continue feeling great about themselves and Human Gene Kellen Moore and obviously Kellen. Moore had some really nice adjustments. They did a lot more pre snap motion. They you did a lot more play action week one than they were doing last year but if you go back and watch the big place a lot of those plays add no play action a lot of those plays had no window-dressing pre-snap those big plays the biggest of them were. Dak Prescott dropping back and firing dimes to no not necessarily even wide open receivers. There is one place where there was a clear miscommunication the tight end touchdown to jar where Ogle Trian someone else clearly somebody didn't do their job and he was wide open but it was Dak Prescott with precision and accuracy with the game on his shoulder so if you can duplicate that you obviously the number one goal is to win but if you can have your cake and eat it too to use a cliche if you can win winning that way or Dak again continues news this momentum where Zeke can ease himself into it because holdout notwithstanding there was one thing during the holdout Jerry Jones said that was accurate. We do want Zeke peaking at the end of the season. We don't want to overuse. Zeke at the beginning of the season to where he is worn out by the end of the season if they are going to be a playoff team so so for all those reasons I agree wholeheartedly with Chris I see of Dak can do it again and see if by the time you get to saints packers if when their game planning for so you're like Geez. Can we put eight in the bucks can we can we defend the cowboys the way we have the last couple of years and just because Zeke wants to have your workload doesn't mean Kellen more is going to gain plan a larger workload for Ezekiel Elliott but but Nikki says interesting if games four and five were games one and two. Maybe this decision would be different. Also you had the cowboys lost to the giants. Maybe things would be different and they'd be more pressure to get him in but they have the luxury and the comfort now having seen what Dak Prescott could do in an offense that was able to succeed without relying too heavily on the run game. Yeah run it back try to do that again. And then you must not forget telomeres only been in one. NFL game name calling plays. Let's let him get some Reps. I'm not as concerned about Zeke in his ability to be effective. As I am about Kelly Moore when we get in highly contested games save when he's calling plays against Sean Payton man I mean that's a huge advantage to the New Orleans saints but as we grow throughout the season and I know through talking walk into a a one a Dow staff members they were pleasantly surprised at the rhythm for which Kelly Moore was able to call place. Oh man these next next two games are very important not only for the young quarterback but either a young even a younger coordinator next and the one other thing that happened in week one that we should mention that I feel Felix gone unmentioned throughout the week. This point was travis. Fredericks return showed up in showed up on the stats sheet up on film of all the Games played on Sunday Sunday. No quarterback was pressured less as a percentage van Dak Prescott when you're pressured less than ten percent of your drawbacks you are going to have high level. Success is particularly with the receiving core working the way it did and so it Tyron Smith played well that entire offensive line but you could see they got their all pro center back for the first first time in over a year with tracks rhetoric in week one but in watching week number one being care food. Jay GRUDEN had Washington pair they had philly on the arrose gentleness text people go Casey go casing. I came and that's gotten go. Go for half a season or half a game. They it must have been conflicted. You had your Super Bowl tickle oncein now and case O'connor case keenum and Washington did have philly a little nervous there in the early half of that game they might be able to do the same for the cowboys pressure on them to get out in the real world mentioned that is you don't WanNa take teams for granted as they say oh you know some. It's it's like we'll work. Zeke in their slowly. Are you know you need to know. This is a divisional game. You get to and division your own. The roads the first time this team is going in on the road to formula to being successful. Is I need to win. At least half of my road games I go seven and one at home and you're eleven and five and you're looking good so for me. It becomes important in this rare three game window developing my passing game creating film out there that the NFL realizes that Oh oh Dallas is throwing the ball a lot like they had done the previous nine games nick because we can't forget how effective Daqing Amari were the second half of the season and real quick you mentioned Dallas going on the road for the first time the flip side of that is home opener for Washington so little extra juice for Washington in that regard after being on the road and one coming home and seeing what they can do all right cowboys want the win but the steelers need a win. Coming up is Pittsburgh on the verge of an Owen to start. That's next on my first one. You can always check us out on the Fox sports channel channel that is on Sirius. Xm. We'll be right back. Are you ready for what's ahead. You can't always predict predict the future but you can gain plan for it. 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A good defender folks saying harden was traveling on his setbacks last year's so he decided to change in a bit is it is our furnace canner there. Oh come home as ready to set a pick ready to play some defense up to defensive game since guys like you got on his back yeah. That's him all right here. We go pro. Donald J Clarke the jumper throwing down incredible off the dribble under the legs dunk all right. I gotTa Watch this again. Oh he bounced it caught up with the same hand. Look the nasty. I've never seen that one before. You got to catch the beginning of it. He goes between his leg with his right hand catches. It switches to his well. Thank tackles. This guy might be the best dunker in the world this we. He's on the show once every couple of weeks all right. Let's stay insane. dunks watch closely offer. This is Doin' Walker holding the ball between his feet in the standing position then up between the legs. Dunk said all in one motion. This might be the most impressive single dunk athletically because you have to create all the power. There's no momentum from running from that sit position. You know that general you do all your exercises that way helped you. Explosiveness major ups dimissed Walker. Wow Nicknamed Sky oh I I like that but High School Football Carl Alberts David trailer making a great one-handed diving catch. I got to watch it again day high schooler what's is name. JV ON JV ON. I didn't think because with the uniform and everything because he was a lighter complected the name fit the depiction the wide receiver but the hands matched a name isn't hands with a name like I would it would it would y'all don't understand. I had some to say I got scared. I must say in an hour. I say the same thing. That's what you were scared and you get your haircut. You got to go tell your wife. Barbara cut my hair to way too scary. Go talk some stealing. I mean they were handed a rude awakening in their week one blow out on don't move but our guys over at Fox at Pittsburgh will get their first win of the season this weekend they got him as four and a half point favorites to be Russell Wilson and the seahawks Ben Rothlisberger her nose that his team struggled last week but says the ready to get back out there. It's not like all of a sudden. We have to go back to the drawing board and start doing this just scratch and everything crossing out. Where do we go from here. It's just we we all need to start with myself. Please play better and it's not it's nothing drastic on anybody's plate plate. Just little things here little things there. I told the guys on Monday. We came in here. we're out doing our own self. Say guys look up to the sun's. Still Shining Scottsdale still blew the first thing is we still plan Sunday. RTC Let's talk about what the steelers are going to have to do. They're going to turn things around. What adjustments do they have to make against Seattle this week well. Let's get some type of identity. I mean who are the Pittsburgh steelers. I know that they've lost a lot of firepower. You cannot replace the productivity left leftback offense in two years but every off offense including bad ones have an identity. Are we going to lean on James Connor because for me with the offense of line that will the smartest thing to do slow the game down. You can't play at a fast break pace. You can't be when we were growing. UNLV days play fat Jerry Cartoon and get up and down the court. You're no no no Pittsburgh so you need to do because your best receivers are twenty two and juicer James Washington's twenty-three. You can't play the tax you can expect to have your top receiver to have fifteen hundred yards. Other guys have fourteen hundred yards. Maybe guy both guys score double digits touchdown. You need to slow down and be hill to play to your defense is is not really good because if you throw a ball and you don't have that clock moving and you don't generate enough first downs which we've been used to them doing in the last five or six years they do not have the firepower to play that way early in the beginning so for me. James Getting touchable twenty times and if he don't get it samuels is getting ready to get it. I'm ready to run the ball and the bill to eat up this clock to be more physical because that is what the Pittsburgh steelers I can guarantee and then we'll get back to ben in the young white receiving core. I'm telling you now the wide receivers coach suddenly died in training camp and they picked up a good friend undermine race Sherman but we saw this last year with the Minnesota Vikings and with other teams sudden death of their offense of line coach last year they never never could recover they have a competent guy and Ray Sherman but these kids are young and now all the pressure of this great franchise their fan base when you've been throwing the ball is easy. They've been throwing you. Come sometimes take for granted and right now. After going against what I consider to be the best secondary this is not a throw in team yet and so listening to some of the commentary in Pittsburgh. There's an element of listen don't overreact. The Patriots beat us. If we're talking about in Pittsburgh they always beat us. That's what a lot of the talk radio in Pittsburgh saying we can be really good even if we can't beat the Patriots. There's an if you were the Houston Texans. I understand because they go to New England and King but they don't have the pedigree. They don't have the quarterback with the history. They just don't have those head to head. Battles were stellar franchise. I could understand that'd be like you know something. We're going to be ready eighty for that element almost of resignation like it. It's a raptors to Lebron situation accepted. Tom Brady's not changing conferences next year. They'll give you a chance but that's not what I saw yes. The Patriots have been the stumbling block for the steelers. Yes if Tom Brady and bill belichick never existed. Maybe Ben Rothlisberger has three or four super bowls but that's in the past what I saw in week. One how good the Patriots are notwithstanding was a wide wide receiving corps that right now is going to struggle getting separation against almost any secondary not just one of the League's best secondaries. I saw an offense that nick cannot rely on a running game that cannot just say to James Connor. You'RE GONNA get us one hundred ten yards from scrimmage we know or at least ninety five yards from scrimmage image and if that's the case then who are the steelers who is an NFL team that doesn't have a great defense doesn't have a reliable receiving core and doesn't having elite running game that NFL team is average at best. That's what I think. The steelers are now. Maybe they're going to beat the seahawks who I think are good soundly this weekend and we are going to say okay. It was just that the Patriots are on their way to fourteen and fifteen and one and they're gonNA make a lot of people badly or we're going to say away even against Seattle who is good but not great this offense struggled got stuck in the mud because a lot of teams played very defenses this week not a lot of teams were held to three points league wide and that is the concern term for Pittsburgh not getting in the end zone once in that game even though the Patriots replying with a substantial lead that's gone. That's majorly concerning. If I'm a Pittsburgh steeler I I would be careful because New England patriot no-one. no-one runs on them now. There's secondary is better than the front seven but if you're going to have success against New England is typically through the air when you have seen their defense give up. Big Holes are big gainers. It's not through the running game. It's do so. I wouldn't overreact because I couldn't run the ball against since New England New England took out of the running game. They lost confidence enforced on the past and once you get behind you can never get back to that but if you look from a strip standpoint fine strength weakness the strongest group that Pittsburgh has on their team is their offensive line. I believe James Connor is a better running back then. You're potentially giving even credit for. I believe he's better than just an average. NFL running back but those are the questions. where you're going to have to ask is. James Connor going to be a James Connor. We saw the beginning part of last season going to be the James Garner. We saw in the first game this year is there is Judy GonNA figure out how to play getting double teamed or is he not but if they go down and they lose this game and they lose it pretty poorly is Mike Tomlin on the hot seat. Cc All you can do in Pittsburgh. You know you can't come for the ownership all right because it's one of the most stable own teams all professional sports the general manager he's pretty good in his position. Kevin Cobra. He's done a great job for a long time so this is your choice journal you either coming after after the quarterback oh they just gave him an extension. Are you coming after Mike Tomlin and I'm just going to tell you I can only watch so many press conferences where you're telling me you foam at the mount so many press conference that we're you seem like you more fired up than the players and as a defensive coach when your defense is bad as they had been for the last couple of years yes. Everything's going to be point Mike Tomlin. There's not gonna be any other excuses. LBL No distractions that team locker room okay so let's look at the coast where the a quarterback stare. He's proven he's a made man with a couple of super bowls like so. You don't have to worry about them coming for him. Mike Tomlin. Yes missed the playoffs last year. You have have mediocrity this year. Mr Playoff. Let the browns get in the playoffs. Let the Ravens both get into the playoffs. The heat in Pittsburgh will solely be directed fair unfair affair. This is a business. He's a big man. He's a big they're gonna come after Mike Tomlin. What if though it's not an excuse. It's an explanation and that is man. Look roster like I'm just curious like who are the elite players I have anymore. If I'm Mike Tomlin who the true difference makers the no question you have have to account for guys on either side of the ball the steelers right now to me have a lot of Nice players I think. TJ what tonight's player I think Juju Smith Schuster Mr is potentially a very good player will see. I think they have a good to potentially very good offensive line. But is there a defensive player. You've gotTA double team. No is there a guy in the secondary like he's GonNa shut down one side of the field. No there's now maybe Devin Bush the first round pick took is going to end up being a difference maker but it's very very hard for the dairies Leonard Notwithstanding for a linebacker in his first couple weeks in the NFL to instantly difference maker. Here's what I feel like. I know oh no no matter how poorly the Pittsburgh steelers do this year. Mike Tomlin is going to be the coach at the end of the season. How poorly would they have to do for him not to be the coach at the beginning beginning next season for a guy who's been to two super bowls one one and has never had a losing record in Pittsburgh that's yet to be I do believe they have some players up front cam. Hey what's been elite player for a long time. The white kid is special rushing. What I'm telling what they're out. There are talented team without a system why had had Mike Tomlin changed at defense. They were from blitzing zone dog team to what are they right now. Are there thirty fourteen or their forty three teen and why is the reason that why don't we have answers. Answers is because the head coach so enough with the press conferences. They might not fire but we should be talking about. Mike Tomlin because of Belichick don't have good players. We don't make excuses for him so I'll be damned. If I'm getting ready makes them excuses with Mike Tomlin. Oh look at my roster. I've been looking at it with New England's putting out there and he'd been doing a lot better with nothing nothing than what you don't f you saying that you have nothing all right. Let's leave it there. Take a break coming up. We'll the Kansas City chiefs offense Mississippi without Timea. Kill talk about that next next on first things first birthday. It'd be nice to be the right time for us to go. Viral Kyle Murray and the cardinals are preparing to take on Lamar Jackson in the Ravens Sunday on Foxy. You'll be in Baltimore on the call. Check count this image that the cardinals tweed with the caption learning from the best showing collar looking an employee of the year wall with those all Larry fifteen years in a row years in a row. They needed him to sell them a piece of the team. You got the money you're right about about that fifteen years in a row none of those years general did he wear a watch on the field because if he would have General Mike I would've would've flown wherever he was snatched him by his dreadlocks drug him off to feel boy. I have told you better your mamma taught you better. You'll daddy taught chew better man teen years in a row gentle. I've we also fill man of the year something. Some other people never get okay. Okay okay geico flamed rats to Fizi off by not represent him. I'm not too much straight down by the way I mentioned to your good friend and former coach and offense coordinator Brian Billick what a hard and fast stance. You're taking on diva wide receiver behavior in a few comments about what you say go ahead. Give me give me the most diva thing I've ever do well. I I can't oh I had a Mercedes one thousand. That's a rich person thing. That's a demon thing. You're deavere receiver unless you re right agreed. Now we're having no because when Abe was what was hard working on here what happened call. God stories to start your morning press regrets deficiency that Prescott was named the NFC's offense if player of the week after his monster opening win over the giants four hundred passing in yards four touchdowns nick has taken that next step or seen one. Come on what up man in week week one one does not make you in Shannon or slow long deck all come on give it up and we got to do do it again. He doesn't I mean again. What he has to do is again now? He doesn't have to be that good again but what he hears what back needs to just don't take step backwards it just stay where you're at and it will be progress because he was so he took three steps forward in week one so if he just stays there is still ahead of pace but no. I can't say he's taking the next step yet but he seems to be on on his way. This is the thing Jenner if people depends on if they like to the player not if you missed the last half of last season you'd be like yeah that took a step first week but if you watch the last half the last thing you man he's up and running now say no baby steps. We have a second half of last year. He had a Mari. They have a whole training camp together. They add ed Randall Cobb. He looks excellent. They give him time and he continues to step into his throws. Don't only watch where he's looking but watch when he comes off to the one to the two to three. That's after talking to members of the staff. That's what he's doing better than he's ever done before all right moving on to Deshaun Watson he almost led the Texans to a last minute minute win over the saints but sadly almost don't count in the NFL Watson heroics led to some high praise for hall of Brett Farve. Far said that Watson has ice ice water in his veins see. What do you think arbs comments. It's true but it just didn't start when he got to the Texas. I'll go back and check him out when he was in Georgia playing football in high school you go go to Clemson. He's got one the great records against the University of Alabama Nick Sabin as far as individual player who was the most successful over college career and that Guy Right there would be at the at the head of the class so what he's doing the NFL is what Nick and a lot of people expected even though he dropped a little bit in the draft he's missed nine games tenure there with the Texans and has only seven quarterbacks have more winning drives more game only seven quarters of more game winning drives last two here's to Chris's point and he's only played a season and a half a football he has been and it does go back to Clemson. I don't know I don't know college. Football doesn't official all decade team but but if they did for me he would be the quarterback of the twenty tens and we've had some great quarterbacks come through college football in the two thousand ten because of what he showed you in the biggest moments it's and he has continued that into his NFL career hopefully he gets some help this week upfront against a ferocious jags pat and very few of them look like a heisman trophy winner once they got the league's he instantly looked like one all right moving on to some news out of L. A. Philip rivers will be without his tight end hunter. Henry Henry suffered a left knee injury reportedly expected to miss four to six weeks nick how big of a blow to the chargers a blow for the chargers by the way I would be shocked shocked if he only misses four to six weeks a tibial plateau fractures and injury that is knock people out for the season before and the chargers are kind of known to soft pedal the injuries. I remember Joey Bosa last year he was going to be ready by preseason game three and he wasn't ready until into the season chargers seem to of all the organizations. Asians in sports have the worst injury luck if it is luck year after year Hunter Henry after blowing his acl last year now having this injury this brutal unfortun- Fortune for him. A promising young player has suffered significant injuries early in his career and this is the kind of guy. They don't watch out some people on their reviewing. The Games names are gonNA. Get them screwed up. How do that to your friend? Your friend good throwback to last. I talked to him the other day he no he oakland straighten that makes us back so much better. Cam Newton in the panthers host Jameis Winston and the bucks the NFL network both teams coming off season opening losses but for very different reasons unlike the box the panthers really just need a few tweaks as they six and a half point favorites in this one that according to Fox Bet Chris Carter what needs to happen for the panthers to pick up their first win of the season tonight. I'm going to be looking at Cam Cam Newton but I'm GONNA be looking through him looking at that Carolina Defense because when they've been good they've been a top ten defense didn't look like that last week against the Rams Guy Gouged the running game. I looked for them. Try to force a lot of turnovers with James put a lot of pressure on him early because they have high expectations inside that locker locker room and that defense has high aspirations they know not only does Kam to be healthy and playing well but that defense it's got to be planted a championship hip level for them to reach their full potential and for the Carolina Panthers this tonight starts the most critical stretch of their season and by that I mean over the next six weeks they play five teams last year that one five or fewer games if they are going to go on a run it starts tonight and it goes from now until all about until about Halloween when they could really put themselves in the similar position they were in last year at six and two midway through the season which for a promising season last year that I believe only got derailed by cam shoulder injury. You talked about the defense. I want to talk about the offense because Cam joked about it. In the press conference like maybe a norv norv Turner got cursed him a cap on his fantasy team but the things that have made Cam Newton special things that have made Cam Newton. MVP In this league he was not allowed to do in week. Guan no deep balls thrown and essentially no runs. He ran the ball. What two times in that football game so are you. I understand using Christian McCaffrey three Christian McCaffrey right now until cam gets fully back to himself might be the best player on that team but you've got to let cam unleash it a few times and you've gotta let cam on some. RPO's or some design quarterbacks run runs get out and run the football because that adds an element to the offense that was lacking in week one and not to make excuses for Cam but but in week number one especially going against the rams. You have to know who you're going against Aaron Donald. WE'RE GONNA double team him every play. He's in the spot. That has a direct line to the quarterback so right now what we're starting to see an. NFL in Laos Season Aaron Donald led the way with twenty sacks. We're starting to see more talented players. Play defensive tackle so now they're able to get to the quarterback so you try to have a lot of quick sets and everything that guy can still get to the quarterback and I can't throw the ball deep and hold the ball why Aaron Donald is spent so when I have Aaron Aaron Donald on the field my deep passing game. It's going to be negate. I'M GONNA try to get rid of it and someone's going to have to make some people miss to be able to run off with it. Now Tonight's game and let's not forget what happened a couple of weeks ago against New England. New England came got banged up missed a couple of weeks so now I got out there the first week I'm not getting ready to have him. Run the ball with him. I'm having a a leg or foot injury that he sustained in that New England game so he might be healthier in week number two. I believe it's going to be all out to try to win so they'll do whatever they have to do but we have to if they're going to reach their potential cam still got to be a pocket passer. He's still got to be accurate and Kenny hold up his new fundamentals when they rushed him and especially when they rushed him and have bodies right in front of him where he can't step when he can't step typically his fundamentals leaving report. Scott was on the show. Yesterday made a joke you. How do you beat a team like the bucks. We'll just make sure James gets the ball in some capacity. How much of this game is GonNa come down to the panthers just not making making mistakes plane within their game and let him go out and I think it's a great point. Is that the the Carolina has to play clean game in this game weak one. They they turn the ball over three times. That's how you lose a game. Despite blocking upon that sets up a touchdown despite picking off Jared Goff wants yourself. Is You lose the turnover over battle like that and one other point to this football game. Gerald McCoy who for the better part of a decade might have been the best player on the Tampa Bay Bucks was somewhat unceremoniously cut this off season they then instantly gave his number away he signed with Carolina. He goes back to ten or he gets to take on Tampa Bay tonight as I think potentially essentially the best player on that Panthers Defensive Line So Watch for Gerald Tonight Kidnapper James All Right. Let's move onto the Kansas city chiefs the running narrative around Patrick Mahomes. This preseason was regression. How could the reigning Lina. MVP possibly repeat the incredible season he had last year. I told Nick not to worry that. If anyone can do it it would be a homes but my worried man over here. Your chiefs running back with Shawn McCoy agreed wholeheartedly said it was nice just watching how fast they were going up and down the field how much space they had how many opportunities they they had the gains. They were getting each play at one point in the game. We were averaging like fifteen yards per touch. That's not normal to see it. First hand is pretty cool see okay. Is this offense good enough to keep dominating even with tyreek hill out for the next four to six weeks. Yes in that in that window. I'm still concerned about indeed yes in that window because they do have a unique skill set and Andy Reid is one the best play call is one of the best coaches that we do have so yes over the next four weeks weeks without Tyreek Hill. Yes they still have enough and what shady McCoy is talking about. Shady McCoy never been on a team where he has so many guys that were so much faster than him and just better football player like he's been typically. We say okay who the best player on this team Shady McCoy after you go one shady. McCoy is going to be mentioned in that and he's not and he sees that it doesn't take long to build to see it they have on any given Sunday. They have one or two receivers go for one hundred and fifty to two hundred yards and it's not just because the quarterback order back because they have that big play type Ability Sammy Watkins. That wasn't the Mirage. We saw last week with him being healthy. That's what Sammy Watkins. That's how you can be a top five pick. That's how you can be a freshman all American Dominate College football as a true freshman when he came from Fort Myers Florida Tareq. We he knows a special player Travis. Kelsey is the best tight end in the Anna L. Conversation all who what about no he's the best tight eight in in and Patty mahomes especially with the ball. Andy Re puts them in a position where they can play fast to create those big place so no shady is rice aid. He's not no shade. He's not lying about this one and the for the show McCoy going from that bills offense this chiefs offense has to be an element of being a vegetarian for a few years and the few yeah they were telling me there right but he was a Philadelphia though was much closer to the talent level on this chiefs offense since then buffalo was buffalo was it was shading according to cloud of dust for a long time they're limited passing attack to say the least but one of the things that was so impressive to me about the chiefs in week one and I think when a month now two months from now we're going to look back on dropping forty casually in Jacksonville. Maybe with even more optimism than we are right now because that's the only time we've seen jags defense this year. I think they're going to be really good again is the way they did it. Tire got hurt early in that game and still they had dynamic plays down the field nine different guys caught a pass and you mentioned Travis Kelsey. I think with tyreek hill out he becomes the key he to this whole thing because Travis Kelsey while he isn't a gronk level a run blocker. He is a good run blocker and he is a dynamic pass catching tight end. I totally agree. I see that he is the second best football. Maybe it's George Kettle maybe Zakar but we know who the best tight end in football is and the other question gene and this applies. Shady McCoy is did he do enough in week one to jump over Damian Williams and become the feature running back in Kansas City because if you were going to get anything close to that level of Lucia McCoy production a level that I thought at aged thirty one you weren't going to get any weren't going to have any more in this league from him then that is an element that chiefs offense lost last year when they cut Kareem Hunt when they were running back by committee and we'll figure it out Lucia McCoy this weekend looked outstanding outstanding but of course all starts with Patrick Moans who in that first quarter was eight of nine for two hundred and eleven yards in two touchdowns and the chiefs kind of coasted from there. Mahomes uh-huh is going to even without the most dynamic teeth threatened football put his team in position score thirty five points every single week the question. The chiefs is one. We're not asking right now. Which of of course comes back to the deep one guy give Andy Reid credit because you'll say patty. padding homes had this stat eight or nine but the guys were white hope. Yes that's playcalling Yup. That's not Patrick Mahomes. He wasn't looking someone off coming to the other side. No Andy Reid had a great game plan. He put a lot of work into the game plan with Jacksonville. I don't know if we'll look back and say you know something. Just Jacksonville defense is a great Jacksonville to me is a team that can implode. They're talented but they could be four and twelve all right so we can look back and a couple of months and be like well Jacksonville. Yeah because I've seen some other team. Pittsburgh not in Jacksonville but Pittsburgh man they went up. I've been down on them so they have once a month. A clunker of a game was that the clunker or is that just a new nor Jalen. They didn't extend him he. He keeps talking about that. That's a major distraction. The other guys out there getting paid so watch Jacksonville and they're big time middle linebacker got thrown out in this game which early in the game which hurt them up mouths jack up the norm for Kansas City's offense is going to have to be thirty five forty points until we know what they have on. Even all right coming up should seek a full load offloading week. That's ahead on first things for Chris already engraving the championship rings for the Pats. It's gone the Miami Candy is here of course thanks for being with US and being a part of our family drama every everyday. Let's get to it. Let's get to it eagles in Atlanta Sunday nice to face. The falcons overcame a slow start to pick up a key divisional win last week over Washington. They know they can't do that again. This week against the Falcons even though slow starts sorta became their theme Lassen. They ranked dead last in first quarter points in two thousand eighteen head coach Doug Peterson knows it and knows the tests that lies ahead in the falcons into solid defense when you look at you know that's why you can't go off last last week because we know we know this defense. I mean it's another good test for us. Offensively comes comes down to execution. How well we prepare this week but this is a this is a playoff caliber team with playoff-caliber defense. It's all right Chris. What do you think the key will be for this game other. Give you talked to both Doug Peterson and Dan Quinn. They would tell you that they want to start a lot faster than they did. You look at what happened with the Eagles and their game against the redskins and they didn't score their first points until right around four minutes before half-time at that point. The redskins already put up seventeen points on the board but they shook off the rust a lot of their starters. It didn't play throughout the course of the preseason and they were able to get on a roll. They scored on every single dry from that point on with the exception of one the Atlanta Falcons. That's a different story. I mean that game looked ugly. They went up to Minnesota got molly bought a Viking Vikings real good. We've got to watch out now. Well no no I'm saying I'm not saying that. The Vikings are good. I'm just saying they got a beatdown up in Minnesota. Yeah that's exactly what happened. It didn't look like they were prepared. They got a couple of touchdowns late night game but that was garbage time. Minnesota scored twenty eight points. If you look at the Atlanta the Falcons first possessions they had black blocked punt interception punt fumbled punt halftime interception point and then of course the last touchdowns but if you look at all asked if you look at all of the turnovers the Minnesota Vikings score points on all the turnovers they capitalize on those opportunities and when you look at what that Defensive Front Front to Matt Ryan I mean after the first play the Game Matt Ryan is picking himself up at the Anthony Barr Saxon the interception at through the first quarter that was forced by Danny Hunter in. Yes yes sure and so at some point the Atlanta Falcons debt offensive line that they invested in that offensive line that they have five first round draft picks including this year's two first round draft picks Lindstrom and mcgarry. I I said that you said that a couple weeks ago the only line with five I I'm like what five first round picks and they haven't had the good offensive line so Utah Key to the game upfront that Minnesota Minnesota go after them and Dalvin Cook run defense our lack of run defense now Grady Jarrett for Atlanta Plate well he was outstanding he stayed in Minnesota's back view but when you only force kirk it cousins to throw the ball ten times how you GonNa win that game so that game from the beginning Minnesota was playing at a different level but if they can't rush the passer that being the in the Falcons. How are you going to build negate Carson. Wentz walk it to win now swimming Land Shannon Tennessee such pretty ball he could just walk into them so the you've got to be able to get after him and get him off his spot early then yesterday. I mentioned the six teams that are that have to be really concerned about how they played laden week one. I understand there's fifteen teams in league better on one but there were six teams that it's like wait. Is there anything from game tape. We can take from the game. Is there any positive the the falcons were one of those six where it's like no not really we didn't really do anything well and they were only one of three who have real expectations other teams unless we're like the giants who we know are rebuilding rebuilding the dolphins. We know rebuilding Atlanta. Though better be careful here it can get late early in that division and that conference and when you I understand understand the struggle of having your first game of the year begins Minnesota second game of the year be against Philli but this is a team that you played each of the last two years once in the playoffs wants to start the season eat the last two years. Your defense played really well holding them. Under twenty points granted. Both of those games were without Carson Winston. The lineup they were nick foles was was the starting quarterback for Philadelphia. I understand that and both of those games you had a chance to win it at the very end down less than a touchdown first and goal and you couldn't upon Janine if Atlanta's starts this year Owen to and then as at Indie next week. It's going to be another season. It's like wait. Look at the town on offense. Look how good we think this team can be. What's wrong with them and so for the Falcons to me. It's a critical critical moment and it's an opportunity for them to remind people well they should be included amongst the contenders in the NFC and every team that doesn't follow the Falcons you need to know they're the only team that kept her head coach but change all of the three coordinate changed the special teams coordinator change the defense coordinator chains are offensive coordinator so yeah they got some of the same players that we talk about everything thing but the lack of continuity it happens to be there. This is a team to watch as far as one of the more talented teams that this year are. They even a five hundred team if they get off that own to start into that. NCC You bring up switch with all the coordinators. I'm still trying to figure out what the identity of this Atlanta Falcons team is. I I mean I brought up the draft picks because when you look at draft capital it would give you some insight into what they want. The identity of that team to be but Atlanta Falcons just haven't been that look at their offense fans look at all. The first round draft picks that they have on their team not just the offensive line. Julio Jones Calvin really all of these guys Matt Ryan. Those guys have got to be able to step up. They've got to be able to do use something with the ball. In the early part of the game you only get the ball ten to twelve times in a game. I mean to start the way that they did. In Minnesota. That's unacceptable and so that team is is going to have to play a lot more physical if they want a chance to be competitive in this Eagles Game Eagles didn't start that great either which like I said earlier is a theme carried over from last year. How do they do that. How do Eddie pickup getting to Sean Jackson involved early added. They come out firing unlike what they did last week. If I'm Philadelphia as great as to Sean Jackson was throughout this game and as good Buddha's Carson wentz in the offense was after the first quarter and a half really I WANNA see if Atlanta can stop my running game. They have three to me more than competent running backs in Philadelphia via. We just saw landing get run all over. I want to start there. I want to start with my offensive line against that undersized defensive front that is used to that is built to play with with the lead and to play fast and try to gouge them the way Atlanta did. I'm the Vikings did and then once I the running game going that's when I tried to hit him over the head with to Sean Jackson Jackson. That's what I try to hit him with the deep shots and that's when I try to have Carson Wentz be more of a- almost the reverse of what a lot of teams do which is try to get the lead passing game early assaulted away with the run game late had a heavy dose of the running game if you're Philadelphia early and then allow that to open things up for Aguilar and for or and of course Sean Jackson Yeah when you're on an explosive team like Philadelphia I've been on a lot of teams like this and you start talking as far as offensive players how important every every time you get the footballs individuals and the reason why is it's important. That Alshon is successful because if he's not successfully dropped the ball. I'll thought the DJ I'll thought to I got other guys that I can go to so for me going into week number two. You can never think you know what's going to happen so you can't go out there and say you know some Atlanta. They got run on last week. You know something we're going to run on them in the NFL what happens man. They put their big boy pads on in something. You like to see the film you like. Where did they come from now. They're stopping the run so don't have your mind made up Philadelphia. It's a blank script every week. They should be able to gouge you with the running game and the passing game but if I'm Carson Wentz Doug Peterson every game going out there with the confidence that I can carve you apart throwing this football and I don't believe their secondary especially safeties entirely can match up with the Interior Passing Game Zack urge and what they can do going down the middle of the field with the Philadelphia Eagles all right right. We gotta take a break Kenny. Stick around coming up. What big band in the steelers need to do to beat Seattle. That's next. We're talking steelers. They were handed a rude awakening in their week. One blowout loss to the Patriots guys is over at Fox. Bet Thing Pittsburgh will get. I one of the season this weekend they've got them as four and a half point favorites to be Russell Wilson and the Seahawks Ben Rothlisburger knows his team struggled last week but says they're ready to get back out there. It's not like all of a sudden. We have to go back to the drawing board and start doing this as you know scratch and everything crossing out where we go from here. It's just we we all need to starting with myself. Please play better and it's not it's nothing drastic on anybody's plate. Just little things here little things there. I told the guys on Monday. We came in here. we're out doing our run south and I say guys look up to the sun's still shining Scottsdale. I still blew the best thing is to plan Sunday all right Chris. Kenny is is big. Ben Reid is just a few tweaks here and there for the steelers to get back contract after you lose by thirty and your first game. It's more than just a few tweaks here. They're not want to overreact but the Pittsburgh steelers that performance was unexcusable bull and when you look at the Defense Asadabad they got a lot of work that they gotta do especially with their pass covers. They're trying to get back on the winning track then going to do that unless they put a little more pressure on Russell Wilson than they were able to on Tom Brady on Sunday night. I mean it's GonNa take more than one sack since the beginning of two thousand seventeen no quarterback in the NFL has more touchdown passes than Russell also Wilson you saw in that Cincinnati game a lot of the plays that they were able to use the set up the touchdown drives that was because of Russell Wilson getting trump plays in the the passing game. You had a forty four yard touchdown pass to Tyler Lockett. The forty two yard of the decay metcalf another twenty five yarder to him. I mean knows where one on one man covered situations diva wins Cincinnati lineup zone at some point in the down zone turns into man and you got to be able to cover somebody so this the Pittsburgh steelers gotta clean that part out of it up in order to try to have some success but impart rushing coverage have to work together and so if you're not putting more pressure on the quarterback then a quarterback is going to have more time and more opportunities to accurate throws down the field and that's the part of it that the steelers gotta get right if they don't do that they won't have a chance on Sunday. I agree with you wholeheartedly. The defense needs play better but they also scored the fewest points of any team in the league this weekend. They were the only team I believe did not score a touchdown this week and their their offense was their offense if their defense got a indeed their offense got an f. now maybe maybe both sides of the ball get enough and if thirty three two three loss but for me if you still get a d. you gotta repeat at. Class though yeah no no no. You don't have to repeat a class major. You gotta get used to see or listen to your talking on Sustainable Egypt from regardless the point okay regardless word list of being the steelers offense which has been to reliable part of this team the last half decade was nowhere to be found and and that to me is an even bigger concern going up against the Seattle then their defense is Seattle's going to run the ball and scream. It's twenty five times irrationally then asks Russell Wilson to make some magic. That's what they did in the playoff game to what they did last year is what they did throughout last season and the beginning of this season but that won't matter if you slow that down if your offense does not get on track and I'm not trying to overreact two week one from James Connor but how about the last ten weeks from James Connor where where he is averaged forty four yards per game rushing the football if they don't have a reliable running back when we know to me they only have one reliable wide receiver that offense is going to be in trouble all year long no matter who they play much less playing a defensive front that I the front seven Sio the back in might not won't be what it once was but that burned seven Seattle. I think is excellent. You already saw the impact from cloudy. We know they have Bobby Wagner K. J. Right so that's my focus going into. This game for Pittsburgh is how can the offense get back on track after a miserable performance in week one against New England yeah but it starts up front. I don't believe James Connor as part of the problem I I don't believe they got enough touches enough. I down to build to get because James Connor and Jalen Samuels. Both of those guys should be touching the ball an awful lot but the Pittsburgh steelers. Where do you spend spend your money. They spent it on a quarterback and that's the only place that you can say they got an idea identity cam hayward. He's GonNa take you out of the running game. He's GonNa take a double team. Besides that hadn't proven himself as a throughout the season that he can rush the passer consistently so what do they have. This is Mike Tomlin and Ben Rothlisberger. No need to be blaming. Anything is only talk about receiving core Jujubes only twenty two James Watson. He's only twenty three. I don't expect them to be dynamic but Mike Tomlin. I do expect him to come up with a competent defense for the personnel that you do have. I don't know if there are thirty four team. I don't know if they're a forty three team. I don't know if they're zone-blitz team. I know they can't play man to man because their secondary is bad. There's safeties were awful but I'm just going to tell you Pete Carroll Pete Carroll is he's not in love with his wide. Receiving Corps Knicks not in love with how they call plays because Pete Carroll. He called Drew Rosenhaus last week he was trying to get. AB A B in this game so y receiving core decay Mecca he was hurt during training camp. He came back. He looked really good his first game now. Lock it as a deep threat. They are going to miss the ball when he was the him and Russell the heart and soul the teeth the physicality of that offense so for me if I'm Pittsburgh. Let's Blitz Russ. Let's place a man to man their wide. Receiving core is not that dynamic to build a show some people that we got some punch in this defense hadn't had punch and a couple of years. I think you've got to cut the head off the snake you gotta go after Russell Wilson. That's where it starts and that's why the needs to be such an emphasis on this. Pittsburgh steelers front front being able to put pressure on the quarterback. That's my only that's my biggest concern. When it comes to the steelers with the offensive side of the ball I have confidence that they'll be able to figure it out Big Ben. This ain't his first Rodeo. He's got two super bowls for reason. We know that Big Ben is one of the top ten quarterbacks in the national football league like he's going to have to elevate the play of everybody around him and I believe that he will do so. I mean coming off of games where he doesn't have any touchdown passes. He's twenty three and six. That's his record so I think that Big Ben understands that a lot out of what happens on the offensive side of the ball is going to be on his shoulders especially after the off season. Were you moved off from Antonio Brown and Levy on bell. Now your concerns about the run game are valid Alad but there have always been concerned about the run game in Pittsburgh. I mean you look at the last several seasons. They haven't run the ball very well. They're only a couple of teams last year that were worse at running the football than the Pittsburgh steelers. I I hear you in terms of wanting to try to provide some balance but ultimately this is gonNA come down to bend being able to make some place like you mentioned in their twenty three and six after a game where he doesn't throw a touchdown pass the lion share. That must be a very long time ago because it has been since week five of the season before last the twenty seventeen season since Big Ben had a game. We didn't throw a touchdown pass and you mentioned. He's been two super bowls for reason I I understand that but the first super bowl he got to they had a great defense the lot the seconds of really got to eat a good defense and a very good offense. This is the toughest ask in my opinion the big bins career. This is the least overall talent he's out on the roster every season he's played in the NFL. He's at least one of the following three if not two who or all three and elite defense a true number one elite wide receiver or a great running back back these played in front of behind in front of one hall of fame running back another Guy Leon Bell who was on a all pro trajectory depending on jeopardy hall of fame trajectory. He's right now. He's Oh for three in those categories categories not through his fault right that's Rosser construction but that's why the job for him so difficult to be but the good quarterbacks make those guys of course I mean what does Mike Wallace has done. Since then Emmanuel Sanders had a couple of years with peyton manning but Ben Rothlisberger made those guys he made. It wasn't the flip side. Oh these wide receivers levers they made him and I know you mentioned James. Connor worried about him. If you're worried about the passing game you need to be worried about Dante Montgomery Pittsburgh steeler fan and you throw the ball to him ten. Sometimes I've been watching Moncrieff for awhile. I know a little bit about why receivers even though Nicholas Moncrieff is my concern yeah if you talked about the offense and you're gonNA target him ten times man. You are not going to throw a whole bunch of touchdown moncrieff came out yesterday and said it was the worst game of his career talked about how poorly he played. He had no great recruiting glad you showed up to the absorbing. New England Tim later coming up. This cuyler. Murray needs to play more like Lamar Jackson. That's next James Washington. Man Rate Changed fans this article. It's a keiler and Lamar in a second but first right here in New York. There's James Harden showing off the one foot sidestep move. He's been working on also. What's he trying to accomplish -CCOMPLISH on this. I I don't I don't. I don't understand remove the threat of the travel on his step back. Three people ask for saying it was a travel now. He's not laying before where he doesn't. That's what he's saying. He's going to do that in game to me. It's not going to getting met wide open. Danny Green is still right there on his shot like no no no. It's not necessarily the the separations created by the setback. It's to remove the ability of the rough to call the travel on them. I'm just telling you I listen. I didn't teach them you ask me answer watching basketball aww for Nina's kanner friend of the show his own defense watching Road Clark the jumper throwing down. This is an incredible often triple under the legs through the hoop nothing but net the catch was amazing right hand through his legs catches it with his right goes back to his legs to his left. I WOULD ASK Commissioner. Let's do this man open competition. I need these street guys burst. NBA guys how right center core or half a nick nick salary whichever ones greater oh interests that what's happening here. I'll channel Pool yuks Kamal Louis. The emir three two one Waqar is holding the ball between his feet a standing position luck. Tell us about this tells. Ellsworth the explosion the athletic. You're not running and you're just starting from that position. How much momentum on your you yourself your lower. ABS- CBS lifting your legs up and getting the run nick have just the place. We asked to generate running them. Who is is use the same person same part of the body nick different part of the got it? I don't get muscles feel different DOC Wallet Oklahoma High School Football Carl outwards jadeveon trailer making a great one handed diving catch. JV and trump. I was is totally lost on this one because I actually thought it was a white kid catching it then I heard the name then. I'm like okay either. They got some some some some some some out Albert Oklahoma. What what speak to me. I got used more. Jews not to use the word club here we go anyone can be named. JVM man it works for everybody. That's a great name visa. Let's do this waited for. No Ah for where would you like to be sponsored by visa everywhere you want to be and see see you will actually be at the Cardinals Ravens game in Baltimore calling the gain rain for Fox this weekend. You'll get to see the dynamic cuyler Murray and Lamar Jackson facing off in person yesterday. Lamar was with us on first things first and had this advice is for cuyler. Just be yourself. You hear Great Flim. I washed them was number. One that came out of high school mayhem came at the same time he I agree. QUARTERBACKS baller be out. I like it see what are your expectations for cuyler and Lamar Sunday on it should be a tremendous mundus matchup for for young kids coming into the league their styles just because both of them are dual threat. There are different points in their life. keiler is a true pocket passer. WHO's five ten in a great athlete. Lamar is a great athlete who has had one game where he sat and the puck and Dan is trying to work to one day to be a pocket passer. Both of them very very excited in their own right Lamar first of all he's on the better football team. He's a lot lot more composed and he was last year. If you look at that last third of the season and then the playoffs that was great experience for him but he's got that institutional talent around him not being wide receivers not being things like that yet but he's got people in that organization to support him as far as what they tell him what they they want him to be. Don't listen to any outside influence. That's why he keeps repeating being yourself because that's what John Hardball and I would be willing to have a a debate about this ugly Jim Harbaugh coach but I believe John. Harpo is just as good and he does a great job preparedness team and they attacked Miami Miami from the kickoff. Now Miami had fifteen new players that were added that week people talk about Miami tanking. Yes but Baltimore win out there and just took the fight out of the Miami. Dolphins game was so lopsided in some of the things that added this season Fort Lamar as far as play action action pass Arpaio's where they put Hollywood on the inside slant to to create some big plays. It's GONNA be interesting to watch them going forward to see how his passing develops over the course of the season so for Arizona the first second and third key to this game is going to be are going to be can. Can You keep cuyler Murray clean. Can you prevent him from being under constant duress because the numbers in week one were jarring. He was pressured on on eleven dropbox in week. One see those eleven dropped back to resulted in five sacks an interception one of six passing and zero yards. If he was pressured pressured he was dead. He was finished and by the way the player who had what nope passes batted down his last year in college. Football only two passes he all of a sudden passes passes batted down left and right for one the defensive linemen are so much smarter in the pros especially the defensive tackles now most of his passes and this this is gonna be a challenge for the coach there cliff Kingsbury to build design less thing Tom Brady. Tom Brady the whole games on the line. Where you want to throw the ball I WANNA taught right down the middle because he can look and see over everything. Is the most open part of the defense. If you ask cuyler where those passes get better down going right right over the middle because the defensive tackles at Detroit they gave up Russian they made eye contact with him and he was ready to throw you could see they were getting our hands and five ten makes a big difference when you're playing quarterback and you could see that in game number one. How do you get around that well. This is the big question the beginning into the sea in the beginning. You can roll them out. Some you can do quicker throws. Boy You really have to do is just prevent him. From being under duress. You can give them a clean pocket where instead of the defensive lineman being an half yards away from him. They're five yards away from and that's the best thing you can do so but when guy there wasn't pressured he was really good twenty eight to forty eight three hundred yards touchdowns on the comeback on the flip side. There's Lamar and we know how great Lamar wasn't week one but I do want to give some context for how good Lamar has been since he took over Chris you and I I don't know if we necessarily agree on this but what you say all the time what is the number one statistic for a quarterback in the NFL winning winning. When do you get on the winning bus. Lamar took over a team that was four and five last year since then they are seven two with the two losses being to to the twelve and four chiefs on the road in a game they had one until Pat moms did something magical and to the twelve and four chargers in a playoff game so nine in games as a starter seven wins two losses last year to the two best records in his conference what he did by the way on on Sunday hit if you care about adjusted yards per attempt which is kind of a new age stat but a pretty good one it was the highest in any NFL game in fifty years the second highest ever to a johnny united game in nineteen sixty seven. We've had a lot of quarterbacks play bad defenses. We haven't had many quarterbacks ever have a game as efficient and as dynamic naming deep down the field is Lamar ad and his instant repore with Hollywood Brown that he talked about yesterday despite Hollywood missing off season missing some training in campus and to have the connection with him on deep passes down the field that is increasing that that speaks volumes about how good this offense could become if the market continued can you to evolve as far as the question to ask. How do you adjust what do you do with cuyler. If you look at drew brees you watch drew brees play and you rock Russell Wilson play when they go oh to check the ball down or they throw the ball from the centre to down the middle of the field five ten yards. There are times where they get on their tip toes and throw the ball and and that's what tyler if you watch him in the pocket almost every time in the pocket when he gets the snap he makes his job he is flat footed and five ten flat-footed food is five ten so drew brees them have developed when I'm gonNA throw the ball in that area. I knew I need a little bit hilt so not only do I need help from the organization agent in Kingsbury. Bill designed things because it's a real thing. There's a reason why we haven't had a quarterback at five ten is because the lyman the sight lines are very very difficult difficult in the first three quarters of the game. He looked like a short quarterback flaine. NFL Did create momentum in the fourth quarter finding Larry Fitzgerald and over time but exciting things cardinals fans you do have a franchise quarterback but you better be able to keep him up in Cape. Jr swayze away from JR Souissi Zack. Tim Did like a cross body block. He gets beat and then he's running back to the quarterback alison unbelievable play so he's got a void. Both Jerry Kleinberg play when you're calling the game on C. We'll be in the booth call in that game. Call for that. Play us while you're there. No let's say some promos yeah. I got you okay. Gotcha hard was wrong. Live television fifteen hours a week as I don't have enough attention is going to be gigantic. Nick didn't realize that back appear first things first it is time to dive into Thursday night football super six as a reminder for those at home so this is the new free to play game where you can win up to twenty five thousand dollars of whose money see Jerry Brash. Oh Sorry Brad got divorced five times so they love him a little chef in everything we get in the rest of so let's get it does sure that also nick out one of the questions this week's. There's an football super. Six is which team will win and by how many points are so. The part of this is easy for me. The panthers are going to win but by how many points I while full a bit between less than seven avenue in seven to fourteen. I ended up landing on seven to fourteen. I think there might be a defensive score in this game the Panthers Win by two scores Panthers by seven fourteen eighteen Chris Carter get right here. You can see the option. So what do you think the first couple you know the Tampa Bay by fifteen only way they can do that man. Let's James GET AHEAD TRANSPLANT TAMPA BAY by seven fourteen. That's totally out the question but in Thursday night in the divisional game I'm a little concerned about Carolina in the short. They got embarrassed last last week in not finish in that game strong supposed to be a playoff team. You should be able to finish bill to get a score there against the rams. I'm going with Carolina but barely getting a a net seven to fourteen. James probably gives them a gift late all case like a three point. Carolina lead Tampa trying to come back pick six the other way. Carolina wins by ten has the Big Day camp has two hundred seventy five yards passing on the same side on norv Turner. Will that means. I'm probably GONNA lose man. I'm good at this stuff. I use all right before tonight. What does he could download. I just went with it download. The Fox sports super six at play Thursday. They night football super six for free for a chance to win. Twenty Five Thousand Dollars Ski Bradshaw's mine a I didn't have a good week last week. Did you not art. Let's move on time for stores to start your morning. Dak Prescott was named the NFC's offensive player of the week after his monster opening win over the giants. Four hundred passing yards arks four touchdowns nick. You think tax taken that next step oh he's taken a few steps towards the next step but one week does not a season make. Jake and I can't say that Jack has moved into that tier of elite. Franchise quarterbacks not yet now I understand he was on the right track at the end of last season and and I think he played the best game played in over two years in week one of this season but I questioned the competition question of its duplicate but a great job by Dak.. Just don't don't take a step backwards this week see. Did they play like one of those directional schools. Do they play southwest Louisiana they did did they play a d. Three Schools Alabama amounts notice the twenty thousand New York giants defense correct and this is the NFL man talented players everywhere. What else can they do for those who don't like taxes talk the there you go do he did at the last eight games of the season he did it in the playoffs. Jenna Jack Jack is already making strides for those who've just don't like him. They just wanted to make take a few more start last week with the passing game in his decision making our move onto. Shawn Watson he almost led the Texans Jackson to a last minute win over the saints but sadly almost don't count in the NFL his heroic sled to some high praise from hall of Famer Brett Farve. Far said that Watson's got ice water in his veins see. What do you think are had to say. No Brett Farve is on this one. Brett farve got it right now the Shawn Watson what he's he's done. He's been special in high school. He was special in college. I got one of my college buddies college coach and buddies. He texted me do a thousand yards against Alabama into games because I I talked about how good he was against the knicks saving and under duress. Even though he's been injured you see him comp- perform consistently week after week. I believe he's underrated as a quarterback and ice and some other things in his vein yeah there listen. He is on the very short list of quarterbacks who I would most. I want with the ball down for minute and a half left drive my team down the field. We've seen him by the way against the Patriots his first season in that situation and and the defense blew it last year remember the game against Philly. He drove down the field for what should have been the game winning touchdown then cloudy roughs. Nick foles they end up getting in field goal range and then obviously on Monday night. No No. There's no he loves thirty seven seconds on the clock. Yeah left too much talk dirty seven seconds no question he's shown this. I don't know him back to high school but I didn't see him in college. Play two of the greatest championship games I've ever seen from Carter Georgia somewhere. I moved onto some news out. Avella Philip rivers will be without his tied hunter. Henry Henry suffered a left knee injury and reportedly expected to miss four to six weeks nick. How big of a blow is this to the chargers. chargers have just year after year awful injury look. Hunter Henry unfortunately a very promising pick a guy that was surprisingly dropped to the top the second or it'd be a first round pick. He blows ACL last year and now he has this tibial plateau fracture. I'd be surprised if it's anywhere close to four more expected to be six to eight weeks. The chargers played last season without him but I don't think Antonio Gates walking through that door for them so devastating for him personally and disappointing pointing for the chargers his his skillset he's tied into can run. He can threaten the middle feel. He's really a promising prospect but he's injury prone and you have guys in the league life. I bet they'll get him back but it's hard to depend on that. These first eight games of the season was for us continuity with Philip rivers were critical and they have lost a number. no-one lost work top-flight players than the charges already so I know they have one of the most talented rosters this is something we must continue to watch all right moving onto the eagles in and is -Lanta Sunday night to face the Falcons philly overcame a slow start to pick up a key divisional win last week over Washington. They know they can't do that again this week against against the Falcons even though slow starts became their theme last season they ranked dead last in first quarter joins in two thousand eighteen their head coach. Doug Peterson knows it. Ah knows the test that lies ahead in the Atlanta Falcons into solid defense when you look at them you know that's why you can't go off last last week. As we know we know this defense I mean it's another good test for us. Offensively comes down execution how well we prepare this week but this is a this is a playoff caliber team with a playoff gallery defense all right Eagles Falcons. What do you think the key is to this game see well. I think that the eagles they're are. GonNa look that tape from Minnesota are going to be like. Let's not be fooled by that because that didn't look like a playoff caliber. Team didn't look like that. Lanta Falcons that we've seen the last couple of years and Philadelphia knows firsthand the last couple years they've had some knock down drag out battles with these falcons and they've been right there with the opportunity to build win win what to do that in those meetings so I know coming into this game whatever the film said it's going to get the attention of the Eagles for me. I'd like to continue building on on the passing game. I believe that they can have a exceptional passing attack. I believe they can be special passing the ball and the reason why I believe that is because they got so many different guys have different skill sets last week we saw the Sean. Take the top off the defense and finish those plays like no one else has consistently done better than him from fifty yards twice in those games to build a bring the eagles back we know arts is his favorite target working across the middle. We know alshon is going to to have big games and we know Nelson. Aguilar has been starting to have those breakout. Last season had a tremendous season so I keep building on that because my quarterback quarterback at my quarterback continues to play this way then my super bowl aspirations general wolfe. She's got the Eagles in Super Bowl going against New England. That's how how they're able to get their ride that passing attack going against. Atlanta got huge problems in their secondary. I continue to build on what I did in the the second half of that game against Washington and that's that you mentioned is jarring the dead last in the NFL first quarter points last year. He was a little upset. Even though he was like oh he was like so many when no no it's an important port numbers in you wouldn't expect that from a team with an offense of minded head coach team where you would expect the for fifteen plays to be scripted nearly to perfection guy who by the way he's a Andy Reid prochet right. Andy Reed's makes his money in the first quarter a year after year with those in fourth quarter absolutely right yeah good thing he had something built up and but that is something for Philadelphia they need to address is the season and in this game because you were asking me a few minutes ago. What's IT GONNA take for me to believe in deck well. If that keeps playing anything close to that I will believe leaving the Dallas cowboys and so if you're Philadelphia man even if you're right that there is super bowl contender the difference between winning that division at twelve and four and coming in second check in at eleven and five Dallas's goes looking weak one is potentially having a by and going all the way to the five wildcard so a game like this against a desperate falcons talkin steam becomes a every game becomes a critical juncture of their season especially when you're playing a team as talented as Atlanta Atlanta. The last couple of years has underachieved underachieve to their talent but offensively. You know they can score you know that Matt Ryan and Julio Jones are going to connect on a more consistent basis and they didn't week one you we know that Calvin Ridley's a legitimate number two option so can Philadelphia get out to a fast start because I don't think you can get that last week and I don't think you can down seventeen nothing to the the Falcons and win against Washington near Pal case keenum. It's another thing it's Matt Ryan these Atlanta Falcons. It's going to be hard for Doug Peterson. The staff to look at that tape of the Falcons Defense and say say Delvin Cook is he that good better than the guys we got so I looked for Jordan Howard in miles sanders to get a lot of Kerry especially early name the try to establish dominate the vikings took a kirk cousins ten passes the ball ten time for ninety. It'll be alright though at ten coming up the newest chief in awe aw the Kansas City offense that's next on first things first the offense the city the fountains the barbecue so we're just a great place to live. That's why you moved away okay. We're back here Chris Kenny Kenny. It's time for say What Russell Westbrook admitted it's still feel strange to be a rocket. After spending eleven seasons in Oklahoma City Russ was a guest on the it's an ice show at Jimmy Fallon last night and the conversation turn to video games saying what NBA Two K. Twenty just came home yeah and a lot of people that just came out. Everyone's excited to play but I don't know if you saw your ratings. They rate the player. No I haven't haven't even played the game yet you know I think. Would you like to know what your rating tonight. I mean sure why not I mean the Broncos ninety-seven okay yeah. That's the best. That's the best okay. Uh You want to know you're in general. Please check it out. Your rating is ninety the clever because good yeah but to me this is doesn't mean. I knew is going to be mad man. Does he think it should be higher than you know. There's a Gulf between ninety ninety seven and ninety. I think he thinks it should be ninety three ninety four. I guarantee you. It's lower than his teammate James Harden's we should we have a video game expert on the show Deontay. He plays about twelve hours. NBA Tell me Your James Harden's Radio Ninety six ninety six ooh about Kevin Durant Kevin Kevin Durant ninety-six as well. I'm being told by videogame expert Dante so Lebron's nine seven thousand nine hundred six three guys at ninety six. Leonard is a Kanani seven tied with Lebron James Janas durant harden ninety six because ron is free throw shooting included in there yeah because he'd been one hundred five you can choose from free tunnels in this guy sure would have been a little bit higher. Had they done better. I guess the trailblazers in the playoffs wow this hatan eaten salt coming out as the lie though Nick. There's a lot there's a lot of things you can say that are true with between Lebron James Russell Westbrook but I you think I should be around ninety three what stain Lillard. I don't know I'm going to say eighty nine. Ninety two probably ninety ninety to ninety. I got them from this. He's a free agent. In the game. Five Star girlfriend speed on the guy without work uh-huh Chris Carter speaking of a ninety nine overall Patrick mahomes act to the chiefs now the running narrative around Patty mahomes. This preseason season was regression. How could the rain. MVP possibly repeat the incredible season the AD last year. I said to nick. Don't worry nick if anyone can do it. It's going to be mahomes. sheaves running back. Lesean McCoy agreed wholeheartedly shady said it was nice just watching how fast they were going up and down the field how much space they had how many opportunities as they had the gains. They were getting each play at one point in the game. We were averaging like fifteen yards per touch. That's not normal to see it first hand. That's pretty cool. Christina is this offense good enough to keep dominating with tyreek. Hill now out of the lineup four to six weeks. I think they have enough deep speed to threaten the back end of defenses so yeah. I think they'll be the open windows. They'll be the high percentage throws. Andy Reid will use some creativity to try to help quarterback with the Absence Atari kill. Maybe the Shawn McCoy more involved in the running game. We saw running back to be a big part of that in week. One Damian Williams had six catches so I mean there are other guys that Pat Mahomes will be able to get the ball to in the passing in game that can pick up some of the slack tyreek. Hill being absent what I'm most concerned with with his chief team is not tyreek. Hill what happens on the offensive side of the ball without him. It's the defensive side of the ball and I know that those concerns are going to be there throughout the course of the year but if you look at that team last year I think the book is out on them in terms of the formula to have success yes against that chiefs team it's to play keep away against that offense. The best defense for that offense is to make sure that they're not on the field and if you look at the last three losses that the chiefs you sort of had the seahawks the chargers and patriots they lost time of possession by an average of nine and a half minutes so ultimately this is going to come down to his that chiefs defense being able to get the Oakland raiders offense off the field and that Oakland raiders off into week one gets a pretty good Denver broncos defense personnel wise. They were ten of fourteen on third downs. I that was shocking. They were shockingly good and we're ahead of schedule. I mean it was third and five or left or less for the majority of the game so that's going to be challenged in this. AFC West divisional match up come Sunday well. The chiefs are going to have no problem with. They're going to go to Oakland then. They're going to beat Oakland by around a touchdown or more. That's what they're about favored by. The question is for the chiefs. long-term can the offense until the defense either gets its legs underneath it with six new starters and new coordinator or maybe it never does but either way beginning greater. You're probably of the latter happens. Let's let's over that percentage the office. Let me ask you this. Is there any other team in the league that could bring in six or seven the new defensive starters a new defensive coordinator and we would just say flatly. We'll obviously going to be terrible again or is it just because we we we know the offense is going to be great in Kansas City so we so the question is on the defense so we act like it's not a question. It's an answer that a team with drastically new personnel fennell with a new coordinator is going to be the I can do is be responsible for myself if there was another elite team that was unbalanced the way Kansas City is is and they had six new starters on defense and I only like two of those stars. I don't like the other four they knew but they they haven't had great great success. In the last couple years their defensive coordinator this question marks about how good he is. Yes I would be doing. It just happens that. It's your team in Kansas. It's not but that's what I would be doing. Okay that's fine but it has nothing to do with that. It's my team in Kansas City. It has to do with the fact that we are told every year. Don't overreact react to week one. We are told every year. coachman Jeannie says it seemingly months on end that you are not going to be at the end of the season the team you are at the beginning of the season. Can you do not pick up where you left off the previous year and yet every discussion surrounding the chiefs has been will the defense is going to be just awful once once again. I don't know I because most of my career played on the team would all offense and every time I got to the podium Chris what about the I'll work I'll work. I'll don't do stuff over there but that was the challenge when I was on a team like that. That's the challenge for any team. That's not balanced the white the chiefs so it's not a personal this something that I personally went through and the chiefs and the Andy Reid. It's legitimate the reason why we're talking about their offense because there ain't nothing talk about the defense. Even there ain't no hardcore none all we can say spag Nola when he is faced New England. They've put pressure on them. Anything else you can make a case for Frank Clark a right as far as we'll hear improve I can say he's just as same town as the guys who just left so they didn't improve in that area secondary wise. How did they impro- so linebacker. How did they improve their all question-mark. Tomo huge question marks but they secondary wise. They drafted the Guy John Thornhill Cornhill. They signed Tyron Matthew while he might not might no longer be an old pro. He is better than any safety they had last year that I'm very confident and you talk last year on what you like. A manual logbook was now on this team. They brought in Alex Okafor. I don't know that the chief Stevens going to be good bad awful mediocre the the point that I'm making this. I feel like we do know the offense to your point. Even without Tyreek Hill is going to be elite. We can show the speed you mentioned that they have enough speed to take the top off the team without Tyreek Hill. They've still got six guys that ran a four five that run a four or five forty or faster during that without the fastest player on the team tyreek Hill so the offense with Andy Reid Patrick Mahomes in that much speed plus named on that list Travis Kelsey the offense is going to be fine and we will see and this week will be an example you mentioned. Oakland was better than a lot of US expected them to be in week. One I think on both sides of the ball to be honest with do you even though they're playing a Joe FLACCO led Broncos team as far as what their defense did and so there's GonNa. I don't know how right I don't know how how explosive that offense is going to be but we'll see if the chiefs defense takes a stride this week after let Gardner Issue Minzhu complete eighty-five percent of his passes or we'll see if it's going to be the same thing where if if they don't score thirty five points it's the biggest problem when you're shooting team is like golden state's been so sensation when they want not only their great offense. They were great defensive. When I've been on teams like Kansas City and your two year people asked me the same thing jen defense getting breast got five new starters we got new defensive coordinator one ends up happening. They ended up giving up thirty or something once we get into playoffs so late in the season so I think it's fair people. Ask Me my whole career. I've been on TV asking. I think Kansas City the questions are how you defense not. How's your barbecue all right if you WanNa win a championship. You'RE GONNA have to stop somebody at some point. I never seen a championship team that their defense can't stop someone. Thank you for listening listening to the first things first podcast. Remember leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on Apple podcasts and catch us on F s one Monday through Friday six six thirty A._M. Eastern for Chris Carter Nick right on Jenna Wolfe so on everybody.

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Dez Bryant, Saints, Patriots, Le'Veon Bell, and the Cowboys

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Dez Bryant, Saints, Patriots, Le'Veon Bell, and the Cowboys

"Thanks for listening to the heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports radio and f s one find your local station for the hurt at Fox Sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. You're listening to Fox Sports radio. Here we go breaking news. This is the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio and f s one joy Taylor is joining me on a Wednesday. And we got breaking news, lots of stuff happening to all right? We got lots of breaking news. Let's start with the breaking news Dez Bryant troubled wide receiver little bit of a diva still got some talent. No question. Good enough to be an NFL receiver not a one. But on a good team. Maybe two or three has been signed to a one year deal by the New Orleans Saints who are averaging thirty a game. It's not like they needed him. You know who got Dez Bryant this job. Do you know who Dez Bryant should send a thank you note to. Josh Gordon of the New England Patriots. Josh Gordon comes with some baggage can be needy high maintenance, but Manzi talented and Sunday night. Josh Gordon and Tom Brady the veteran quarterback the established offense Josh mcdaniels Brady, Josh Gordon and Tom Brady. Ooh. That looks pretty good. Josh Gordon Brady. Oh AFC. Josh Gordon Brady, look pretty good. And this is a copycat league. That's all this league. Is this league is always loved change. They like rule changes coaching changes player changes legislation PAT changes. But they do like to see somebody else. Do it first. And succeed. I Russell Wilson. Five eleven quarterback. College numbers were amazing gets drafted succeeds. Everybody's out. Yeah. Johnny manziel. Let's take that five eleven Johnny Mandel. Didn't get drafted in the first round. If not for Russell Wilson. Philadelphia Eagles do a bunch of. Free agent moves in the off season when the Super Bowl, and then Jay Glazer told us now everybody league wants to do it. Because like well the eagles did it. Everybody's trading like crazy in the season and making moves in the season and free agent at trades during the season didn't used to do that Sean McVay get to job with the LA Rams. He's thirty two years old. He just got his driver's license. And now everybody wants to hire. Matt Nagy gets job and Kyle Shanahan gets a job. The day are talking about Lincoln Riley, coach Dallas Cowboys Lincoln Riley, didn't even get a phone. Call five years ago. Sean McVeigh is the gateway to all the young coaches. How about remember you couldn't draft a running back in the first round? The Cowboys got Zekiye Elliott at number four for the Cowboys. And he leaves the NFL in rushing and he gets saquon Barkley drafted at number two couple of years ago is that you can't draft a running back in the first round Cowboys. Do it boom hit two home run? And now the New York Giants pass on quarterbacks to get one. This is all about Josh, Gordon. I mean Dez Bryant is no better today. Day than he was three months ago. He's not any better today than three months ago. Hey, by the way, the saints don't even need him. Just like the patriots got to a Super Bowl that Julian Edelman just like the patriots have gotten to a Super Bowl without grunk. Patriots won the AFC gronk was hurt and element was out. But when you watch the patriots Sunday and you'll watch Josh Gordon and Tom Brady, let's be honest. You sat day if you were Steelers fan you sat there if you're a chief's fan if you're a chargers fan of your Texans fan, you're like damn. This Brady this break. Josh Gordon be towns. Deep threat, Tom's God's I d threat since Randy moss. And I think drew Brees is looking there and they're watching Sunday night. And I think because they just beaten the Rams they go out to dinner, they come home and they watch Brady and Josh Gordon, and they don't need him. And Josh Gordon to patriots in half to have him. But man, Josh Gordon gives you that little icing. It tastes better. And if that's how he got picked up. That's the difference Payton, Sean Payton and drew Brees watch Tom Brady. And Bella check get Gordon every week. He's better and they're thinking themselves. You know what? Eight weeks from now, we're hosting Philadelphian a playoff game or hosting Carolina. And a playoff game. We're hosting the Packers or Minnesota and a playoff game or hosting the Rams in a playoff game and to tie game. Late condense make a thirty eight yard catch to get us in the red zone with three minutes left darn writing can darn righty. Can there you go? All right. Let's shift gears yesterday a store that broke when we were on the air. And I do think by the way das- is going to work superstar. I don't think he'll probably be quite as good as jar scorn in New England. But it'll be something they've already got, you know, Mike Thomas they already got two backs. The got Brees have a great line. He'll be something. He'll be a catch a game. He'll be at twenty eight yard catch again. He'll be something. So yesterday, Troy Aikman used to words. And they're they're big words and their powerful words, and they got everybody talking. These words did because Troy Aikman must've said two hundred words. But there were two words he said was dysfunction one was overhaul that got everybody's attention. Let's start with the first thing he said yesterday about the Cowboys dysfunction. I talked to people I talked to people who've been inside the building and have a pretty good understanding of of how things are run in a lot of ways there's a lot of dysfunction, and and that has to change if this team is going to be able to compete on a consistent basis like the teams that you look to around the league that seemingly are in the hunt each and every year. So let's talk about the word dysfunction that that lands. Big in Dallas. That's a talk in Dallas yesterday. I was talking around the country yesterday, toy Benton, talk like that about the Cowboys much dysfunction is he right about that. Yes. We have seen over the last one hundred years in this country wealthy families, the DuPont's the Kennedy's the Rockefeller's the Hearst family that Trump's wealth creates power and leverage. And it creates celebrities and stars and entitlement and it creates some dysfunction. I told joy this yesterday. The Lakers Real Madrid, Manchester you. Added New York Giants New York Yankees. Fica the soccer organization. I o see the Olympic Committee. Dallas Cowboys New York Knicks when you are that big and there's so much money involved. You start making decisions for money couple years ago. The Lakers signed Kobe Bryant to a massive contract why because they're broadcasting partner. Time Warner said we're not signing a deal and less you signed Kobe. And so the Lakers made a move for Time Warner now ready for the team to appease a broadcaster for the for the record years ago. The yes network, the Yankees games, and they said sign a-rod big contract. Well, it's a lot of money you want you want to deal with us. You want your games on? Yes network. Make sure you sign a rod. So when you're a rich family the DuPont's when you're a rich organization Real Madrid. These these these Manchester United Dallas Cowboys New York Yankees. There is. So much money in so much wealth. That decisions are often made not just about wins and losses. So I think Troy Aikman's common dysfunction is accurate. It's fair there some of it. And I would say it you see more of it than you do less at the very top the second word. Troy Aikman use. Let's overhaul. That's another big word. Let's go without. This team over a long period of time has been what it's been. And it hasn't always mattered who the head coach is Ben. And so to me dragging me I'd say there has to be a complete overhaul of the entire organization. You just can't simply replace head coaches and say now it's going to be better. No, it it. It's it's been shown that it's not better. Now. That's where I disagree. The Chicago Bears made one move Trubisky played for John FOX Trubisky now with Matt Nagy one move, it changed everything thirteen points. More game. Sean McVeigh replaces Jeff Fisher. Now, they did get a left tackle. And they grab Robert woods wide receiver. But they made one huge move. Jeff Fisher defensive guy. Sean McVay offensive guy, by the way, the Philadelphia Eagles that chip Kelly. Hey. Doug Peterson and become changed everything. This is a quarterback coach league. Don't kid yourself coaches manner. Never forget the four teams in college football that are one two and three and four Nick Sabin, Dabo Sweeney, Brian Kelly, and Jim Harbaugh all four of those programs before those coaches got there. Those huge brands were a mess. Bama was a mass Clemson was a mess. Michigan was a mass in Notre Dame was a mess. I don't believe the Cowboys need an overhaul. I think new coach. And I think they probably have to draft another quarterback. But let me tell you. I don't think it's an overall they have cap space. They have an excellent athletic aggressive talented front seven very few in the league better than them. It's a passing league. They now have a number one receiver you need a star running back to that helps they got one of those. They also have an elite left tackle and their offense of lines. Not as good as it was years ago. It's still top eight stop ten. I agree with a dysfunction, which I think is unavoidable in wealthy families and mega brands. I just think it's I think it's unavoidable that much money creates dysfunction, but I don't think the Cowboys need an overhaul. I think with the Cowboys new need is a fresh leader at the top in a do think you've got one more year adak the rest of this year next year, you should draft another quarterback you should draft. Another quarterback. Dysfunction. Yes overhaul. I disagree. All right, two things are the college football playoff rankings came out. And if you're a cowboy fan. Not only afraid John Goulet be terrified of what I'm going to say next. He thought I was going to be in a good mood today. Terrified it what I'm going to say next. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. What understand your DNA? And what it tells you about your family story now through thanksgiving Twenty-three in mean, ancestry service kits forty nine bucks. When you buy two or more twenty three and me dot com slash the her joy Taylor and a couple of minutes. If you want to know what the Cowboys should do a Dak Prescott. You know? I mean, listen, what do they say the past tells you the future just pay attention? And so I look at the Jacksonville Jaguars. And they kind of gave the Dallas Cowboys a roadmap on what to do with a young quarterback. Now. Matt Dallas crush Jacksonville earlier this year right last year. Jacksonville was the talk of the league. The patriots are always good. The Steelers rose good. The Packers are always good. Oh my God. Jacksonville's good. So a year ago. Joy Jacksonville had a great front seven had a star running back and they had a young quarterback who runs better than he throws. And they went out and Jacksonville had a decision to make and a had little success. They almost beat New England a beat Pittsburgh in a gay. Blake Bortles a lot of money in a contract extension. And now this year Jacksonville looks like the fourth best team in their division. So now you have the Dallas Cowboys. They have a gr really talented front, seven young and talented. They gotta star running back Zeke. And they've got this quarterback who's young and his kind of mobile looks like he kinda runs better than he throws. And here's what Jerry Jones said he's about to do with that Prescott. Gac is completely capable of looking at what the situation was last night. You know, have anybody that's more capable to look at that. And take it to the practice field and take it to learn from that for the next ball game. Is he your quarterback for the next ten years back is the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys? He's young and he's going to get extended. Okay. And we were all asking the same questions about Blake Bortles a year ago. Right. Like Jacksonville had front seven star running back power team in a mobile quarterback runs better than throws. It didn't really trust. So he had his moments and a couple of big wind beat Pittsburgh gave you a glimpse Dak Prescott thirteen and three rookie year. Nobody had film kind of gave you a glimpse and then extended Blake Bortles in now. Well, Colin Bortles and dagger different 'em. Another not is it fair. If you take the last sixteen regular season games of a quarterback is that good enough. Number of games to get a fair kind of read on a player. I think it is last sixteen regular season games. Dak Prescott on the left. Blake Bortles on the right? Oh, they're the same quarterback for our radio listeners. If you hear something it's John Goulet throwing up in his mouth Dak to the left and Blake Bortles to the right and Dak Prescott. It should be noted had the better offense of line. Joy Taylor with the news. Turn on the news. This is the third line news. I'm not even a Cowboys fan. And that statements. It's scary. I mean vertigo we were saying a year ago. You know, Blake Bortles in a e he'll have a winner to you can't I've never been a portal's believer. And I was maybe this is really adapt. Believe not at all his rookie season. Kind of force. You six games into his rookie year. I'm like about I was wrong. Allan McCollum was right. So there's mentioned earlier we have some breaking news the New Orleans Saints have reached an agreement with Dez Bryant s- a one year contract, which he will sign the contract on Thursday. Although they've won seven straight games and ranked second in the NFL with thirty four point nine points per game. They're actually kind of thin at received. They are Ted Ted Ginn junior was placed on I r with a knee injury last month and Cameron Meredith is not hand out so far he was newly signing zero targets in the past three games. So they do have Michael Thomas Alvin Kamara is fifty one receptions, Benjamin Watson and trae Kwan Smith, but they could. Hughes guy, by the way, New England had James white, and they have Sony, Michelle. They got two bags like New Orleans Saints at Ben Watson patriot have gronk. They have a Michael Thomas in New Orleans, and you got element. You have a go to guy you could have lived. And then you got a bunch of Chris Hogan's and trae on Smith you could live without rolling. Then they don't need. They don't need him. But again. You have two more great years of drew Brees. You got about two to three more Brady when I'm watching that game Sunday joy. Josh, Gordon is different Dezes different. I think you're right. That's the Josh Gordon the successive. Josh, Gordon has has shown that that can still happen. And that it's that it's worth taking a risk on them. Yes. If it if it all pans out, and they can work within that system. I like this move. Actually, I think that if you know who knows what shape does Ryan cinema assuming he's been working out. But obviously, you know, he hasn't been playing football. Yeah. Kind of the same fear with with levian coming back. But I like this move. I like everyone thought that does Bryant should be playing on a team. It was kind of weird white wasn't in over the past month or so that story is kind of died down because he hasn't been on a team. But I like this everyone's gonna be watching and everyone's definitely going to be watching on November twenty ninth because that is when the saints host Dallas and the Philadelphia Eagles born golden Tate. So the All Saints are looking out there and are like who is in who's a roadblock for us. Maybe you know, Atlanta's got good receivers. Philly ads golden Tate. The Rams have good receiver. Only makes you a deeper. Why receive it can't hurt like they of driven team? The the NFL is trending in offense of direction. I it's not. It's it's a good move for them. Speaking of the Cowboys Jason Garrett, he's usually stone-faced during his press conferences, but. He was different response when he was asked about his job status. I just focus on doing my job as well. As I can do it every day. We just go to focus on what we need to do. We have to clean up the game. And we have to get a rise on Philadelphia right now. Obviously it's a short week players will come back in. We won't do a long review of this game. The will hit the highlights. I still not buying Jason Garretta's going anywhere. I know that we talked about at the beginning of the show which way Aikman said and then overhaul and Dallas schedule gets really rough in the next month. What if he goes, oh and for it's really rough Philly next. I mean, what if he goes? Oh, and for I don't think at this point in Jerry Jones tenure as the owner of the Cowboys. He's going to all the sudden start trending in this revolutionary innovative way. He's just an ado, Jerry Dizon and who's Jerry. He's wrong. He's been incredibly successful in business. He's built the Cowboys into an unbelievable brands. Well, I mean, LeBron you can have all these brands you got to win basketball games or LeBron brand isn't that big of a deal? I don't care about us pizza. I care about is basketball. The Cowboys have survived as a brand for very long time without winning a lot of play. I know. But it's it's I mean, you can keep telling me the brands great, and I agree with you. And LeBron brand great. But if LeBron stunk the basketball player tomorrow, I'm not not as pizza I prefer, I prefer the winning winning myself. But I am sure. Cowboys fans due to but bringing in a coach that's young and innovative and is gonna make all the personnel decisions and make all the calls. I just don't see that happening. Finally, it's time now for the real deal presented by Carl's junior and Hardee's and Zayn Williamson at RJ Baird are the real deal may have only been one game. But it's extremely difficult. Not already found its national champion to watching that beatdown of Kentucky last night. One eighteen eighty four RJ Barrett. Scored thirty three points in Zion. Added twenty eight with some impressive. He doesn't even look like a college player. He's two hundred and eighty five pounds Zionists such a he. Yeah. I mean, he's just he's a force. He looks like member Larry Johnson with UNLV yet. I covered. Larry, I covered them in Vegas and Larry before like all the weightlifting stuff. Larry, look, like an NFL linebacker it. Yeah. I mean, he looks like an NFL player on Herschel Walker. Larry johnson. You're like they're like, yeah. Just do push ups. Sometimes God touches you with a magic lawn and that kid looks like a nine year NBA Zion. Zion is incredible. And obviously, he gets the, you know, the pilots with the crazy dunks. But I actually think that our Gabeira it's going to be the number one hundred what he says he doesn't get as much attention. You know because he's he's from Canada. But he has a lot more experience and he's played internationally. He played with the Canadian team. And he his he played at seventeen and the end of nineteen team international team. And they are the ones that beat Calipari USA basketball team. They're both number one pick. They're just both coming out in the same year. Right. This is to number one picks. They're both both worthy of a number one show last. Oh god. Daddy, did that was fun. Do fun to watch this year. Yes, they're going to be a little Alabama. We know they're going to win it. We'll just we'll just enjoy the show. Yeah. We got a lot of that warriors Alabama football. Now, do we know who's going to win? But you know, I know the end of a movie, I knew Titanic was hitting an iceberg. I still like the movie I knew Apollo I do Tom Hanks was going to survive. I still love the movie, and you knew that in mission impossible. Yeah. But by the way, I have moved it up to the second greatest movie of all time behind silence of the lambs ahead of God. Well, I'm dark. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by heard. Again, my buddy, Nick writes opinion on Dez Bryant Kaz Dez is a little flaky for me. But my theory is I watched that game Sunday. And I think drew Brees and Sean Payton beat the Rams went home. You know, they went out and got some great food in New Orleans and they sat down, and they watch Gordon and Brady and they called each other and with Dez Bryant on the market, Nick right via the cower global satellite network in New York City is joining us. That's kind of my takeaway on it. I don't think that's any better today than he was three months ago. What's your takeaway on it? I'm surprised by this. I think this is great for Dez Bryant. I'm not sure if it's great for the saints. I understand why the saints would do it. They've got an incredibly productive number one receiver but their second receiving threat. This year's a running back. Their third receiving threat is at tight end who's your age, Colin and their fourth receiving threat is a rookie who has twelve catches on the year and trae Quant Smith. So I get why they feel they have the need for a number two receiver and Dez is biggest issue is generating separation pair with the quarterback. Then you don't need any separation because he's so accurate. He's basically handing you the football. But man, this is a big belief in Sean Payton, and their culture 'cause this right now to me is the Super Bowl favourite in the NFC, and you're bringing in something of a live wire. Maybe they not only saw what happened in New England with Josh Gordon, but they saw the team they just played in the Rams who despite. Down just beating them. The Rams brought in a bunch of livewires this off season. And it's worked out brilliantly for them for desert. It's great for the saints. I think it's to be determined to actually great point on the Rams, you know, what Josh Gordon's working if Dez works te'o better. Stay by the phone. He may get a phone call here in the next six months. Slowdown called slowdown thought. Like, okay. So Troy Aikman used to big words yesterday dysfunction and overhaul. I agree with the dysfunction. I don't think the Cowboys need an overhaul. I think they need a coach. What did you make a basement thoughts? All right. So Colin just think of one of the many homes you own across the country God and the Cowboys. They listen they've got a lot of really cool stuff, and they might have a pool table. That's their left tackle Tyron Smith. They've got a really nice theater that Zeke Elliott, they got a pass rusher. That's I assumed the spa or the pool you have outback they got they have two linebackers. They got an all pro guard. They now have a wide receiver. But they don't have a foundation. That's the culture, they they don't have even a ground level. That's the quarterback, and they don't have a coach. So they have everything you need except for the most important things you need a coach a quarterback and a culture. They're like the bizarro Seattle Seahawks. The Seattle Seahawks have those three things in that it they're four and four the Cowboys have everything else. But not those three things they're three and five. I think that's what Troy was getting that. Yeah. I mean, listen. Here's the thing with Jason Garrett. And I see this with Mike McCarthy Green Bay. I don't think they're bad coaches. But sometimes the world changes, and oh Facebook I o on Instagram, and if you don't embrace it you look old now dated. I look at Jason Garrett. He could be a coach somewhere. But I gotta be honest. I watched Dallas offense. And I see Green Bay's offense. I don't see a lot of motion. I don't see a lot of clever. That's kind of my take away. Is that what you see I? Well. Yeah. I mean, I think both of these coaches, I think Mike McCarthy has achieved the minimum level any competent coach would achieve with Aaron Rodgers. I believe that. I think that we assay you win a Super Bowl. You're an all time. Great coach. I don't believe that to be the case would Jason Garrett. I you say that if he you know, he could coach a lot of places if he were to get fired. What's the next job? He gets head coach at air force like. I know who's lining up to offer Jason Garrett this job again. I don't know who's lining up to ask him in the NFL to be an offense of coordinator. Like Jason Garrett is very well qualified for the job. He has because the Jerry Jones spectre looms over it. But as one calling guard has been since he took over the Cowboys only the patriots. And the Steelers have fewer losing seasons zero. He just has the one the year Romo got hurt and Weeden came in. I they're going to have a losing season this year with the level of talent on the roster. Despite Dax clear, limitations, they like I think they've got to move on from him. And I know by the way, Colin there's almost nothing in your career. You regret more than saying? You are wrong about Dak when you were right? You were on the right? It's like it's like picking a stock, and you abandoned it too early. You were right about Dak it just took us forty games to see it. Speaking of deck. I made the comparison to Blake Bortles is that Blake portal's had the defense. He had the star running back, and he was better running than throwing and we knew we had a ceiling and they extended him another trap with him in Jacksonville. Looks like the fourth best team in their division with the fourth best quarterback by a mile. I kind of feel Daqing Blake Bortles. That's that's the connection to me. That's what I am. I that far off. No. And I hear Jerry Jones say and we're going to extend back if he extends to this off season. It'll be the most grievous error. He's made since he fire Jimmy Johnson or moved on from Jimmy Johnson. Like, you people in today's NFL where passing never been more important where the teams with the biggest edge are not the teams with the best quarterbacks. Always. But the teams with the best cheap quarterbacks that chiefs. The Rams the eagles the Texans like leaving some out that there's a line. I call it. The Matt Ryan line if your quarterback is Matt Ryan skill level or above then you can give him the twenty plus million dollar extension. Cam Philip rivers, obviously Rogers Brady, Big Ben breeze. I'm leaving some guys out. But if he's Matt Ryan, and you give him that extension. It kills you. That's Derek Carr. That's Matt Stafford that's Alex Smith. That's that. That's really. That is obviously Kirk cousins is right on the French right by that is obviously Dak Prescott you when you decide to pay quarterback what it costs to bring in three quality players. They better be an awesome quarterback. I have no evidence Dak is an awesome quarterback. So I be remiss if I didn't ask you about LeBron Lakers or foreign six they've got five close losses. Their third in the league. In scoring a lot more fun to watch this year. Third and field goal percentage lousy on defense. But few in the league plant any more. I think there where we thought they would be. I think I look at it tonight. If they beat Minnesota they're five and six they beat the crappy teams, they lose the Toronto very good team. And they're they're they're competitive with everybody else. I'm okay with where they said, I don't get the Magic Johnson, Luke Walton story. What's your take away? The first ten games. My takeaway is that right now they're getting a version of LeBron that the Cavs got literally until the trade deadline last year, and that's an important date. Lebron last year if you remember it he even said that was the day the day of the trade deadline. He hit a game winning shot. I believe it was against Minnesota. The last thirty games of the year. Whatever it was. He was absolutely unreal. Then went on the greatest playoff run we've ever seen from an individual player. Why is the trade deadline important with all the change on the team from the kyri trade to the next trade all of it? What LeBron was doing in the first fifty plus games? Or was seeing what everyone could do that. He was not imposing his will to squeeze out every single win possible. Because he wanted to see who could do what I I know LeBron's averaging twenty seven eight and eight this year. So it seems like it same old LeBron and is not same old abroad. If you're watching it, I believe that's. Intentional. He is using this part of the season. So they can find out is Luke Walton the right guy. Who is Brandon Ingram? Really? What can Lonzo do who are the guys we might move at the deadline? And then once the team is set once they're in a real playoff push. We will see the LeBron. We saw the stretch run last year. He would be you will not get they know they're not winning the title this year. It's impossible. No one's beating the warriors. What they need. This is an information year. And it would I'm not comparing myself if when I was filling in for you, Colin. Yeah. It would not have done mean you were at best one any benefit if you came in half way through every show and walked me through segments sat on the couch for like, why don't you do this Nick like you got to figure out if I could sink or swim? Yeah. I think that's what LeBron's doing with the Lakers. What he's doing with the coach. And so when that's the case, it's an average roster with one awesome player. They're going to have an average. Record. Well, I like Kyle Kuzma and Nick, right? So that whole thing made sense to me that was very good right there. Good good talking to you, buddy. Talk to all right. Hugh Jackson Browne's coach next hour. I I like I've supported Hugh a lot on the show a lot of people remember human sixteen. Yeah. I said resign him when they fired him last week two weeks ago. I said, oh, okay. So Baker mayfield's better without an offensive coach. So Hugh Jackson's coming on the show, I have been often on the Hugh Jackson island. I have supported him through it. And I think he'd be a great head football coach at the college level. Hugh Jackson in the room can sell a program. He's going to be joining us next hour coming up next. So I know a lot of people were watching all the politics and stuff last night, not may college football playoff. The second. One joy was introduced last night. And what it said that is coming up next car shopping confusing. Lot of terms dealer price list, price invoice newer used. Here's what's not. Confusing. Get clarity saved three grand on average on MS. RPM? Breaking news today that Dez Bryant has signed with the New Orleans Saints. I like the move. I think we're seeing it because Josh Gordon has been a nice little fit for the New England Patriots a guy that's got some maintenance. But Josh can play Dez can still play. I I've been saying this all year, he's not a number one receiver on a bad team. He's a two on a good team. He's a three and on the saints. He'll be there third-best receiver. He's not as good as reliable as Ben Watson. He's not Michael Thomas. They have a big time running game. But you know, Dallas has excuse me. The saints have a great offensive line. I will I'll make the argument this morning. I think it's the best offensive line. Currently in football one. Is that mean does can go deep. Michael Thomas can go deep when you. That's why the the Rams Brandin cooks that that Rams oh line allows Jared Goff, like four seconds. Not three Dez Bryant can run the. Twentyfive plus routes. I think he's a good player at eight hundred yards the last time he played and that was with Dak with drew Brees. Can you come in? And can he make you know? I I'm not gonna put any numbers on it. Can you make a couple of plays a game? Now, I think he can I I don't think he will this weekend. But condense Bryant come in and make a couple of plays a game. Yeah. And that's what you're going to need extra to beat the eagles to beat the Rams that to beat Carolina you're going to couple of plays. So we saw golden Tate. Go to the eagles. Just a couple of plays. And Dante Fowler went to the Rams just give us the Dante Fowler had one big shot the day. Just give us a play. Just give us a little something. We're not going to build our offense around yet. So I liked dance to the saints. Great coach great foundation. Mickey Loomis real GM stability, you're gonna great offense. We just want just just a little more fettuccine on the salads little sprinkled sell sprinkled on there. Well, like, I think it'd be fun. By the way, Cowboys host the saints week thirteen Thursday night football. Do we got that game? We got that game. We got tomorrow we got Carolina Panthers at the Steelers. I got Cam at Big Ben tomorrow and a couple of weeks. I get Dez and the saints against the Cowboys. That does day night football bosses. I'm glad they got on that. God bless we got on that and paid a bunch of money for that. I like that tomorrow is great by the way Steelers hosting Cam. So college football playoff last night. I'm driving in this morning. And as watching some politics last night. So I missed the live version of this. And then I went online and stuff. Alabama's one Clemson two Notre Dame three Michigan four in Georgia in Oklahoma real close every you know, what I keep hearing. I drove into work this morning who's going to be number four, Michigan, George Oklahoma. Who's you'd be number four. Who cares? That means you play Alabama and get beat by thirty. That's like saying I can't wait to be the eighth seed in the Western Conference playoffs. So I can get swept by the warriors. Everybody in. This thing is opinion to Alabama. Now, it will say the three best teams. I've seen this year. Alabama. Clemson Notre Dame in that order. I do think Alabama could make it interesting, and I don't count out the possibility of Clemson up setting Alabama, potentially Notre Dame is just below. Clemson could give Clemson a fight. I don't think Notre Dame matches up well with Alabama. I think clemes. Zain's got the athletes and they've got the quarterback and they've got the coach. So I think Clemson I I'm not counting out. I don't wanna hear about you know, they can beat an NFL team. Don't give me that crap. I don't wanna hear that stuff. There is no the best Canadian Football League team would beat Alabama. Don't tell me that garbage Alabama coming into a national championship game having blown out everybody. And I got Clemson plan with house money and three NFL defensive linemen up front and a big time quarterback in a bedtime offense and NFL bodies all over the place playing with house money got nothing to lose against Nick Sabin who they beaten before. And almost beat the second time. Don't tell me Clemson camping Alabama not saying they will Notre Dame. Can't michigan. Can't I don't think. Georgia Ken, Oklahoma, Oklahoma plays. No defense, Georgia. Secondary is bad. Get lit up by two. Michigan's offensive line is mediocre at best. They would be overwhelmed by Alabama's front, but yeah, I'm hearing this driving today. The season's over. I don't want to hear that. I don't know. Don't tell me that Kentucky at Anthony Davis. They were great games got close. Don't tell me. Alabama can't lose to Clemson. I don't wanna hear that. They can lose to Clemson. But you know, you're talking about I've watched everybody nobody really nobody really matches up to Alabama perfectly. Clemson Notre Dame matchup. Okay. Georgia matches up. Okay. Except they're horrible secondary. So that's what you got. But it's you know, everybody everybody's talking about. Could be number four. That's just the first one to get crushed by Alabama. All those teams that would be number four. And I also heard this. Well, what Alabama loses will they drop out. No, they won't Alabama can lose a game. They'll still get in. Nobody else can lose Clemson lose the game and their bad conference. They're out. If Notre Dame lose the game. They're out if any of those other one loss teams, Michigan Oklahoma, Georgia lose a game. They're out in Alabama's good enough to lose a game in stay in. They should I got no problem with that. If Alabama loses the George on a field goal because they're not going to get blown out. You know in the SEC championship game. I'd keep Alabama, and I moved down to three or four, but Clemson one then you have Notre Dame to then you probably put like, you know, Georgia beat him there three in the Alabama four. And then Clemson, I I think my gut feeling is clemson's going to beat Alabama the title. That's my gut feeling. And so if Alabama did lose move to four Clemson we'll go to one they'd still meet the game. I wanna see his Clemson Alabama. That's the game. I want to see. And I think we're going to get it either way if Alabama goes onto. Feed. It will eventually get it and availa Bama loses to Georgia and his fourth. And Clemson was one we'll get a sooner. But that's the national championship. Whether they play for the final game of the second to last game. Clemson Alabama feels like the national championship. And I don't think the line's going to be twenty-five. The line is going to be like seven and a half. And I think Clemson playing with house money as a real shot to beat them Daboh Sweeney's, Clemson coach he joked about, you know, by the way, he's a smart, dude. He he's he's planning up that nobody should even be discussed with Alabama. We're glad to have an opportunity at this point to know that we're still in the hood. But the reality of it. It's like, you know, back when I was a player, you know, they had kind of the the the big time bus, and then they had to ROY Bush the rest of y'all, and you know, it's gonna is kind of Alabama and in the rest of y'all we're just glad to be on the ROY book right now and still have a chance. I don't buy that now. And I gotta tell you something that New England Patriots team. Don't kid yourself. When you came come into a national championship game. And you're being you're telling a bunch of nineteen year olds you're the best college team ever. You could beat a pro football team. And you got seniors on that team. And they're thinking about plan on Sundays and making money and yesterday, John middlekauff our buddy a former NFL scouts at. He had a scout. Tell him I think Bama could beat the raiders no they couldn't. And but you gotta remember you got a bunch of nineteen twenty year old kids. Those are boys not men, and they're going to be told to the best team ever. It's it's it's I don't know why we do this with people have been constantly doing this. They did this with the two thousand one hurricanes forever. It's there's men, and there's there's kids difference. Clemson's got a shot the only ones that have a shot. But, but you know, if Alabama losers they should still play in the playoff. Absolutely. If you've got the dreaded stuffy nose cold and flu try Vicks sign X nasal spray Vicks, sign X nasal spray. Works up to twelve hours. Hugh Jackson around the corner, Joel Klatt to it's the heard our to this is the heard wherever you. May be in. However, you may be listening live in Los Angeles. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio and F S one joy Taylor is joining me, Nick. Right. Stop by Hugh Jackson, Browne's raiders coach coordinator for many teams through the years will be joining us in a couple of minutes excited for that a million questions to ask him. I want to start our to talking about the NFL. And I think a lot of businesses I've been in the media for thirty years and everybody says there are a risk taker everybody loves a risk taker, but they wanna see somebody else doing I. And everybody's like, oh, I want you to take risks take away. Well, hold on hold on that network. Do Ariss sing it didn't work out. Like Russo much the NFL's copycat leak. Everybody wants to hire young coach because Sean McVay worked. Lane. Kiffin didn't work and everybody didn't like young coaches Now, Sean McVay works. Everybody wants to hire Lincoln Riley who's like nine years old. And I remember years ago they had the wildcat offense. Now think about what the wildcat offense was thinking about this. Listen, here's what we're gonna do. We're going to snap the ball directly to a running back who can't throw good God. You don't wanna running back throwing and he's going to run the offense. Even the patriots. You some of it that thing just as all, of course, because it was ridiculous. I mean to gadget play you could use it once or twice a game like Tim tebow guy, but the wildcat offense for about a year and a half was the thing and all of a sudden everybody caught onto it. Now this morning coach has got onto it and everybody then went God. This thing is stupid. Let's just get a better quarterback. Okay. Not nobody uses it. And so my whole point is Dez Bryant, I think that the Saint sat down Sunday night, and they watch Josh Gordon, and they're like, well, you know, Bella Chac and Brady, and they bring on this guy a little bit of Maine. Silence. And and kind of works, and we got Mickey Lummus, and we got drew Brees. And we're going good culture here and Dessel high maintenance. I think it work. I don't think of Josh Gordon if Josh Gordon Brady Sunday night were screaming at each other. I don't think that's Brian to Saint. But I've watched every snap New England this year in every week Tom trust him, a little more just a little and I think Dez Bryant I two weeks Dez Bryant week three. Dez Bryant week for oh, we got some here. And that's all it takes the worst team in the league. Buffalo beat Minnesota handily this year in Minnesota. This isn't college football. It's inches not feet in candesartan. Get those feet inbounds and give you the extra inch. And that's all it takes to beat. The Rams beat the eagles beat the saints beat the falcons. So I like it and with that wanna bring in a man I've watched for years, I've known people who've known him Hugh Jackson on our show today. A real pleasure for me. I have said through the years, there's a handful of NFL guys that should never discount college football. And I'll get into that about ten minutes. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing Pugh? It's great to meet you. It's great to have you on the show. Glad to be here. Let's start with Dez. He was in your facility, and I may be full of who hooey. But I do think the Gordon thing makes it easier to get the death thing. You had Dez why didn't make the move. Well, we just you know, as an organization that. Time then fill like, it was the right fit. You know? And I think also in fairness to Dez I didn't think he felt like it was the right fit at that time. You know, sometimes those the both sides have to come together, and it's got to work for everybody. And at that time, he just didn't work out. I mean you had a new quarterback in a young quarterback. Now similarly. I didn't think Josh Gordon in New England would work I came out. And I said boy, listen when you get when there's too many things on the periphery here. I just don't think it's going to work. I get Cleveland. And I and at the time I'm like, I don't want. Josh Gordon with Baker. I don't feel. This is good. So I didn't mind your move. And I didn't get New England's move. It's kinda working. Let's go back to the Josh Gordon thing you let him go wife again, you know, again as an organization we made a decision to move forward and move on in. Honestly, I think it's it's great for Josh. I think Josh Anita change of scenery. I think everything that had happened to him happened in Cleveland in the organization did anything and everything that it could to help him be the best version self it just didn't work out. So we moved on. And we wish Josh. Well, obviously Josh's doing great things. You know, I'm not gonna put you in a compromising situation. I have supported you. I have said before I think the problem in Cleveland is not coaching. It's ownership, and I'm not gonna put you in that spot because I that's my opinion. And I don't think coaches should have to comment about owners because you have further employment down the road. But I will say that I said on the air two weeks ago that I had been told through sources I trust that you liked wins. Loved him that you liked to Shawn Watson loved him. And then TJ Hoffman's oughta came on my show a day later and said this number one I knew he wanted wins two years ago. I knew he went to Watson last year being Hugh talked when he was in Baltimore. We talk about players when he was in Atlanta. We talk about players when he was in Cleveland, we talk about players prior to each and every draft in he straight up said we I love Carson Wentz, dude, he loved the Shaun. He loved him. But you don't get that choice that choice. You lobby for it though. Right. You're gonna ruin lobbying. Oh, you always lobby. But at the end of the day, we make a decision as an organization you be collaborative. That's where you work. You do what you think is best for the organization, but owners don't get fired. You do. Oh, you know. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I I am not mature enough. I would be a little bitter. If I lobbied for stuff, you didn't take him they star against for down the street. How can you not have a little bitterness? You know, Colin, I'm I mean, I am excited that I was one of thirty two, you know, I was very privileged and honored to be the head coaching Cleveland. And when I look back at it, it just didn't work out. You know, I think why didn't really that matter. You know, rather? I did get this didn't get that. None of that matters at this point. I think today where I am they move forward. I have to move forward. I'm grateful for the time. The fans have been outstanding matter of fact my flight over here. It was fans in the in the airport, and they were outstanding. And I need to take the opportunity to tell them. Thank you. Because truly all I've ever wanted to do was bring winning Cleveland. But at the end of the day, I wasn't able to hold up. My end of the bargain. I'm not a fan of hard knocks. I as a consumer. I get it. I think it's unfair to coaching staffs. If you put a Cam. In my house and my wife's thrown I think. I think people. Okay. I don't like it. I think reality shows you start acting young players start acting. It changes people. I didn't think you or the organization looked great. It took me to places that I don't need to see did you push back on that. We always push back on those things. But I think when I looked at it again, I didn't see it the way everybody else saw it, you know, because in real time, I think it was totally different. I think the optics of what people see are totally different than what really happens as happening. You know, all that stuff is put together they're trying to tell a story, and sometimes it can tell the wrong story, and I get it. Yeah. So I mean, there's a moment with you in Hailey and Thomason Todd reputation. He's an intense. Dude. He will he's been a head coach he wants to be a head coach again is it it just joked showed fifteen seconds of roll type. Our team has to get mentally tougher and able to fight through that we got to fight through. We got to change drastically in a week. I guys haven't done sitting around doing nothing. You know? I just don't know how we're going to do it. Why respect you saying that? I mean, I used to sit in the same event. Let me finish. I used to send the same chairs. You said. Now, you still Safeway is why kill him K until all of a sudden I said this chair, and then they're not there said again, but the charity said a little different, and you guys I get to watch a different lens by all taught me a long time ago. You know, what what is it out here? Your take into it a hell. Okay. So this one's mine. So that's just the way it's going to be now. Do you regret that it looked? It looked like he was not happy with it. And what do you make that? Now you watch. No, I still think, you know, everybody need that understand the conversation prior to that it was already explained why we had taken guys out. So I was a little surprised that we we even going back through it again. You know, we made decisions because the data that we found that if we monitor how guys practice it cuts down on soft tissue injuries. So here we are again, discussing it. And I understand where Todd's coming from. He's new, you know. So maybe the first meeting, maybe he didn't hear everything maybe he didn't understand it all at that time I needed to move forward. Because what we were doing. We were gonna do. We wasn't gonna change. We had too many too much of the data. That said our players, we don't pull muscles. If we do it this way. So everybody else that was there. Understood it he was new he caught that piece of it. So really I was trying to make fun of it. And that's why I say, our would what do you? What do we always say because that's something between me, and I'll Sanders and the rest of the guys at been there. Hey, look, you know, when you get your own team, you get to do whatever you want. That's all that was Baker Mayfield. I didn't like the off field nonsense and a lot of the grabbing stuff. I was more of a darnold guy. But I did say that darnold would lead the NFL and interceptions. He played hero ball at USC. He's two years younger half. The starts Baker beat out as it may you you like Baker enough because I could you can tell that you like him enough, and he can do some things. He's accurate as hack with a mill. He does a great ball. What was the ultimate selling point? If there was one thing they're all lined up because Donald Gelo, beggar, the pilot better athlete, you know, he's he's a he's a big played linebacker in high school, and he made some great didn't have quite the system. But was there one thing about Baker that when he was out of the room, you could like or not like, but what was the deal with the deal closer for you to deal? Closer for me is I've watched him in. Impact the people around him. He's able to make people play better than what they can play. I mean, he has an internal fire within him that is unmatched in my opinion. The guy is built the right way. And if you're going to turn around and organization that has been losing a guy's got to be able to handle that you can't just walk in there. Because all of a sudden you become with that organization is and I don't think he will ever let the organization was gone on their effect him. I think he will rise above it. Now, there is a moment of peace at tape was early in the camp. This was one of my favorite moments where you is the veteran coach and the kid and let me play. This was. He said when you said, a different type track, and what time, you know. A little bit later this elbow known. What time you come over? Thank you. The ever come in with your boy five. He does he does his own little workouts. Where'd you gone? Flo. Workout more start starting your career. How you aren't. Essay competition. I'll get everything. No, why not. You know, what I'm I saw that. And I went, oh, oh bakers already shown up late having a bagel in the morning come on. That's not what it was at all. No. I think what I was trying to do is. He was already had a process to me less. Make sure it's the best you're competing against tyrod Taylor. So I made a statement in there the, hey if you're gonna compete on the football field compete off the field compete in everything that you do the meeting room everywhere. That's what that was about. I think Baker has had a really good system. But boy, there's more you could do do as much as you could. I was just challenging him that way. I think there was nothing wrong was nothing that he was doing wrong or anything like that. They have just again, that's the moment that people catch. And that's what was said. And all it was was, hey, here's an opportunity for you to do more compete. Go. Take a shot at it. You like that whole grabbing himself stuff in college though. Hugh, he got swag. So why did you tell me why you hate it? I don't like the police video. I don't think Russell Wilson would have that. I don't think Andrew luck would have that. I don't like grabbing junk, I think quarterback is an extension of coach. I think I always use a term one of the reasons I have a problem with Trump. He's not presidential. I like mcwhorter backs to be quarterback. He'll okay. So when so Jeff George one my Cup of tea, Johnny Mandel, not McCoy Petit. I think there are times that Russell Wilson had a player drop a touchdown in the end zone. Sunday made a hell of a throw and for one second Russell was angry. And then it snapped on the quarterback la- franchise two billion dollar franchise. And there are times bakers not quarterback. He'll is that fair. Why think you know, I understand where you're coming from? But I think we're talking about college and young men, you know, and I think again, everybody makes mistakes sometime, you know, what I think I know when I. Dove into it. I understood better, I think the young men learn from it. I don't think that's who he is. Now, he has a swagger. He has a fire, and he has a desire, and he's trying to beat you. There's no question about that. I would never take that away from him. Can't everybody do things better. Yes. We all can. But that young man is a quarterback. And he's going to be a really good quarterback in the National Football League. All right. Stick around. I got to ask you about. I got the levian bell situation. We got the Gruden situation. Wow. Oh, we got all sorts of stuff. I think you should be a college head coach at a really big school. So you don't go anywhere. Okay. We got Hugh Jackson here. More of it. Coming up, plus Joel Klatt into the our be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. Sunday. It's great slate of NFL action highlighted by drew Brees in the seventy one seats taking on anti-government the Bengals or Philip rivers in the chargers chargers battling the raiders it all it's all on FOX the Fox Sports app. Check listings for the game in your area. That's got upset written all over it. Bengals at home, desperate big persons to how many big games can the saints play that go to Baltimore. And then they come home. They're just saying in like four big games in a row. Vikings Rams nag on the road dome. Team called watch out for Cincinnati. You played them enough times. I got all sorts of personnel. Oh, no. They do the the Bengals are, you know, they'll be in a cut waiting. Yep. All right. Jon Gruden right now. You know, we're we're pretty brutal in the media. Once the avalanche starts we all just play on it. And the you you were in that you're in that little bit of that tornado where Hugh Jackson's no good get him outta here. Now. Jon Gruden you've been we're starting to pile on John the avenue sympathy for him. Yes. Get off my guy. It's my guy. Yeah. We that taught me a lot of football. He did with the university Pacific together, we were office mate's. So I do sympathize with him because I know what it's like when you try to go in and change a coacher and trying to build it in your vision. And you've he's had obviously to make some decisions to do things to get it to where he wants it to be is going to take time. I mean, none of those things happen overnight. Even though we all want him to happen fast. It's going to take time. But this guy is still a really good football coach, he's still the same Goetschi. He was which is greatest strength offense. The guy can run an offense, and he can lead a football team. There's no question about that. I think guys would follow him because he just has that inner strength and believe me he's gonna come out of this. I understand where he is right now. And regardless of what the record is. I just know what kind of football coach is kind of person. He is Hugh Jackson. Joining us, Hugh. You know, you've watched Bella check. And he was in Cleveland for a while. So we all know bills. Really smart academic guy is mom spoke seven languages Bill bills. Just an academic. He's a really adaptable guy. You know, Brady's funny. So Brady six around guy. Didn't look the part, right? I'm just a believer in this thing that early failure creates the metal everybody Russell Wilson, by the way had to transfer to Wisconsin. Because it's coach at NC state said we're going with Mike Glennon and Aaron Rodgers had to go to a junior college in Big Ben Ohio State didn't want him. And drew Brees. Nobody wanted him in Texas is that the secret sauce with Brady how good of a thrower is how good is arm. Like if you were scouting Tom today. Like, what is he is his arm under rated I think is underrated. And I think he's improved himself tremendously. Over the years. I tried to get Tom to leave Michigan and come to cow when I was in cow. So that was a long story, but we wasn't able to persuade him to leave. He said he was not starting to Michigan. Absolutely. And so we thought we had in myself, and Steve Mariucci we thought we had him come in. And all of a sudden, then we'll because one he was he was from. That's where he was from you know, he's from the bay area, but we his staff. Catcher in his ability to throw the football. You know, you didn't see that lettuce them that way, you know. But boy he could throw football, and you can tell he had fire. He had fire. He wanted to win. And that's truly what it's all about. Yeah. What what what with Bella check? This is the NFL's not built for dynasties colleges. You get the best recruiting class every year the more you win the better players. You get in the NFL goes the opposite. They want you to have you know, there's just there's limitations on what you can do is Bill smarter than everybody. I mean is it owner Brady? I mean, he didn't win before Tom when you go up against Bella check. What's the one thing that always concerned you he's gonna take your strength away period on offense and defense and special teams? He's gonna make you got to work, obviously, we all work, but you're going to have to find different ways to do things because he's going to definitely that. Well, I think everybody tries to do that just as a way of doing it. I mean, we're talking about arguably one of the best coaches. Ever coached in this league and one of the best quarterbacks to so they have a really good thing going, and I think he's done a tremendous job Mike McCarthy's in a different situation, so errands, great. And he just got a big contract. They don't fire quarterbacks Mike McCarthy's a very good football coach. But you I mean, listen, you can see it on TV. There's attention. Errands, taking a few passive aggressive shots at the organization, Pat Riley used to say, you no matter how good you are for ten years. You just Charlie Brown's teacher your noise players. Tune out is it possible that might McCarthy's a real coach. But that after eight nine years with Erin, maybe they're wearing each other out if you've ever been with a quarter if you've been in a situation where you kind of feel players tune out. Oh, they do. I mean, I think we all know that they do. But you said it I that Mike is a extremely good football. You think so I know he is he is. And he's very good at what he does. And we're talking about one of the better quarterbacks in the National Football League. They will work through that whatever that is. They will. I think they will. Because in the end, you have two men who had driven towards winning. And I think they both wanted to everything they can to get the Packers back to where they should be. And I think when you have that kind of like minded Mina, and they have the mindset to fix it. The no do it together, lady and bell. What do you do multiple teammates? Now said we like James Connor their first in their division. I got Big Ben doodoo Smith Schuster. Drafted him to he was. Antonio brown. Brandy. They have to oh pro of offensive lineman. Heck of a pass rush. They figured their defense out. And now, I got lazy in bell. And I'm not sure how he plays in the locker room, Hugh. What would you do? Why think obviously, I think Mike Thomas on a great job? You know? It's not about the people who are not there. This about the team. That's their right now. We don't coach players that's on the team will deal with all the other things as they happen. And right now as you see the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're playing really good football. They've done and outstanding job you played. Aren't you played them twice? They were a different teams. They were different teams. The second time. I think obviously we come out of training camp. You'd think your team is is ready to do certain things. And then you look and go we need to press on some of these other things get them better. So I've watched that team improved from week one to week eight. All of it pass rush. The waiting ran the football just they improve overall. And that's what you want your team to do. Just keep getting better during the season. Not take a step back is the keep moving forward. And that's what the Steelers are doing. You know, finally there are I told her members this years ago and I worked with him. I said her you could work in college you'd be good in the living room. And I said you build a staff, you got great energy. I and I've said this before I thought Gruden would work in college. I don't think ballot. Check would. I don't think he deal with boosters. I think I don't think Parcells would have worked. There are guy. Tony Dungy would've worked in college. He would relate to the kids. I think you would work. There's big jobs. Don't even need name them one right down the street. Would you consider college? I would always consider college. I think coaching coaching and obviously leading men rather they're grown men or young men. This is truly what it's all about. So you you like the idea that I do. By the way. I don't think it's any worse. Dealing with the NC double A, then crazy owners. I mean, billionaires are different castes. They are they are. So I mean, you've dealt with a few billionaires. It's a have. I don't think it's the easiest job in the world. Hey, it was great meeting. You today. Thank you. Absolute pleasure. Hugh jackson. Thank you so much joy with the news. Turn on the news. This is the heard line news. Dallas week is always a big deal in Philadelphia for the eagles and for their fans and apparently also rubs off on the players Jason Kelsey at some fighting words for Cowboys fans this morning, we'll boy everything's high. And I would say mostly I just don't think that a lot of players in particular me. Just don't really like the franchise to the organization what it stands for. It's always stood for just never really appreciate it. What the organization, and what it spans really stood for, you know, nine Fairweather people from across the country that just kind of fell in love because they're winners having any type of emotional connection to the team whatsoever. Well, what what is wrong with being a fair weather fan? What what is everybody gets a I'm a true fan? When it what does it matter? If I like team. I like it team. I didn't like New England before Tom Brady. I like New England now with Tom Brady because they win a bunch of games. What's wrong with be fair weather? I like Fairweather. I don't. Snowy weather. I tell you. I I gotta agree. And before one starts talking about Miami. I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So don't talk to me about fan base. The Steelers have some. Probably I think they had the strongest fan base of any team in the NFL Steelers. Yes. Yeah. You can argue you know, the chiefs and the and the raiders or the Packers whatever. But to me, the sealers do the bigger point is. So what if if people are fair, weather sports is entertainment. Yes. Okay. So if I go to a movie, and I sit through half the movie, and the movie is terrible. I perfectly within my right to get up and walk out of that terrible movie because I'm paying entertainment. This is not the law something the fan police. Yes. Just like whatever you like by further record is I have friends who are fans of Liverpool. Real Madrid didn't grow up with them. They weren't born in Barcelona. They they watch them on TV, and they're like oh that teams wild. And there are sports. I didn't like that. I like now, they're sports. I used to love that I'm bored with now you can move in and out of sports anyway sports fan. Dome. Who you are is a person who look at so dramatic about this. But I will say what I will say the Cowboys fans fan base is is is very diverse. And it is worldwide as we know because they have the biggest brand in sports. But I think what plays into the the whole Cowboys mystique is that people love to hate the Cowboys. There's this. They have the top three rated games so far this year. Yes. And they're boring by the way too boring team their offense his they've been they've been mostly bad and dysfunctional the they've had Cowboys Panthers week one Seahawks. Packers Seahawks in the Cowboys. And then the Seahawks the Cowboys and the Redskins and they're not they're not. They're not the Aikman cowboy through the boring Cowboys, and they're still getting a huge rating. So it's okay. You can say about Philly talking too much. Nah. It says it's Philadelphia Philadelphia. There's there it's a tough blue collar town you if you're not one of us bomb. It's philidelphia. They got a chip on their shoulder. They think everybody hates them. It's philadel-. I actually like it. I I I like a little trash talk leading up to a game. It makes it better. You gotta you gotta sell the fight a little bit especially after that that Cowboys law. So I like to get all the Cowboys fans fired up. So then offensive numbers exploding. It's not a surprise that a lot of players on pace for big numbers this season. In fact, five quarterbacks are currently on pace throw for over five thousand yards which is the same number of players who have done it in the history of the NFL. Yeah. That helps you break down all the offensive numbers that are exploiting this year. And wrought this burger who's one of those five on pace to do that with us. If that feed is still impressive. It's still pretty big deal. I've never got there. And a lot of guys have it. So it's probably still pretty big number. But it seems like there might be some some guys on a few guys on this year. Yeah. It's I mean, listen, this is why I don't care about stats like baseball is lowered and risen the mound. Raise the mound and lowered at like twenty six times hockey's got different rules than ten years ago. The NBA now's a three ball league. I've never been into stats because you how can you be into stats when Babe Ruth played a different game than Bryce Harper. I mean, the things are going to change and. I mean basketball is trending towards more offense football shining towards more offense. It's it's just the way that it's going on this five thousand or five thousand times five times five times and Patrick Mahomes Jared Goff, Matt Ryan and Kirk cousins are the other four that are on pace sue throat for five thousand yards this season. So this is going to become less of a big deal than it was in the past. But I still think it's a it's something it's something for sure finally last night was a shows. I n Williamson at RJ Barrett. Put it on. No one eighteen eighty four win over Kentucky is only one game. But it's kind of tough to not crown Duke, the national champion after watching that it was it was something I'll tell you where thirty three points. Zion added twenty eight do didn't want to do a one and done and Mike. Chef ski initially said I don't like one done. And then he started losing games to people who like one and done, and then might chef get smarter older. Guys said you know, what we're gonna brace this one and done. And now they do a better than everybody else. I I mean that was just that was unbelievable last night. Just just watching how they did it with such ease Zion is a complete force. I mean this look at this. He's what are you gonna do? He wished two hundred eighty five. There's only like five guys Kentucky. Yeah. Kentucky by the second best team, and they blew him out. Yeah. Yeah. And RJ Barrett is going to be I think the number one pick everyone's focusing on Zion Zion. Obviously could be number one pick also. But Barrett has a ton of experience playing internationally against. Older players and he actually beat the US team. He plays for the Canadian national team. He doesn't get as much love because you know, he's from Canada. But he's you have to watch for him because seeing what Luca Danni pitches doing this year. I mean, averaging nineteen four and six. Yeah. You know, front offices are going to be paying attention to that. So a shooter sports to watch joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping heard lie. Joel Klatt feisty. Joel Klatt is around the corner. And I've got I have I have because that story broke on Dez Bryant. I have so much stuff here. I have not gotten to. It's incredible. I I haven't even gotten about a third of my a quarter of this. I got all this show that we prepped for and I don't even have time to get to it today. So let's just. Over there. Seriously. I I did want to show this by the way, you know, how like. My dad used to say this. That most of the big decisions in your life will meet made when you're not in the room. Everybody's nice to your face. But my dad always said the big decisions like your employment will be decided when you are not in the room. It matters get along with people be a good guy. So everybody always says Bella check. Oh my God. Aaron Rodgers is the most amazing. So here's Bella check last week the week both before he played Aaron Rodgers when Aaron Rodgers could hear it. He was in the room. Go ahead. As a great player. He does everything. Well, very mobile in the pocket extends plays. Good vision down the field. A cadence wells good situational player. This is one of the great quarterbacks. In football question about. Oh. So is everything good. Oh, everything. Everything. I don't really dangerous thing. What does he say? When Aaron Rodgers is not in the room sideline. Mike this past game. Here's what Bella check said about Aaron Rodgers pass. We want gotta keep doing it. Hey, we gotta keep doing it for sixty minutes past rice is what we want. All right, G Morgan. Keep in a pocket. He's trying to throw it to interceptors. Now, we're gonna get one already this law, but it up there. Keep president if he runs backwards. All right, then runabout about that's great ages lobbying him up there. Funny at best quarterback of all time secretly my Bella check straw up. There is lobbying up there. You're already floors to that good. Aaron Rodgers in perfect. We all we our problem saying breezes to short Matt Ryan didn't have good enough, arm and Cam's not precise enough and Brady's not an lead. And Philip rivers is a weird delivery and Lux. No good overrated. Oh lobbying him up there. It's okay. To criticize Aaron Rodgers. You're not a hater. Just adding context to it cranky, Joel Klatt. What did you make the college football writings that's coming up next? It's cold and flu season Vic sign X nasal spray, twelve hours at works. When congestion strikes Vic sign X nasal spray. Joel Klatt the voice of college football on our network. All right Klatt, Dirk what's up, usually you. And I argue there's always got to be something. I disagree with. So can we both agree with this? Alabama's the best team in the country. Yes. Okay. Who is a second best team in the country. All right. We agree on that. Yeah. All right. Who's the third best team in the country? I mean, I would say Michigan right now. Now that Notre Dame beat them. Yeah. I mean that was a long time ago Michigan's playing better football right now, they just beat Penn State basically to death these boat race. I've Notre Dame has struggled during this last few weeks. Remember they struggled against pit. They didn't play great against north western. I think they might have some trouble down the stretch. Here was Syracuse in Yankee Stadium. That's going to be a neutral site game in New York. What a what a what if Michigan and Oklahoma went out who would you put in between the two? Yeah. I would put Michigan ahead of Oklahoma. What if Notre Dame and Oklahoma went out who would you put in? Well, Notre Dame because they are undefeated. I think Notre Dame with one loss would lose an argument to either Michigan or Oklahoma Georgia. I think is going to get a second loss to Alabama. So I think what you're waiting for. If you're Oklahoma or anybody that's trying to get into the top four. You're waiting for the Ohio State Michigan game in the Syracuse. Notre Dame game. I don't even think Alabama Georgia is going to be that much of a contest when you model it out. Okay. So I do thing where it's called plus minus K what are you on average give up versus what the opposing team averages. Okay. In Alabama, basically gives up about fifteen less points than what you average offensively. That's what they do as a defense. And then if you were to do that same model out with Georgia what you would get is about sixteen point game between Georgia and Alabama two touchdowns. So I don't think Alabama's gonna lose an even if they do there's argument that they would get into that. Oh, I put him in so high AllState in Syracuse is everybody's best bet that would have been loaded me. In oklahoma. If you're looking for an in, you know, maybe it's West Virginia that wins a couple of games there at the end, Washington state. That's looking for a prayer. The I think those are the only two games that are gonna shake up this top four Syracuse Notre Dame and Ohio State Michigan other than that Alabama. Clemson. They should send them invites right now. I think those teams are in the playoff. I think you're right on the gala Bamako. And by the way, I don't buy this Alabama could be an NFL team. They couldn't beat the best Canadian Football League team clemes bay. Maybe PL Saint John left tackle for the Argonauts his class. Okay. All I'm saying is when I watch Clemson, and I watched Bama bunch of Sunday guys. I look at those two teams Alabama comes in being told that the best team ever. No losses. Clemson's plan with house money dabble Sweeney nut staff know, exactly what Alabama. Does. I think clemson's got a real do that. Plus minus thing you do when when I when I put them into that kind of like equation. Yeah. It spits out of three point game. Okay. Which is the closest game that Alabama would have. There would be a two touchdown favored against everybody. Clemson's the only one that spits out basically three point game. Okay. So you do this. This is the Klatt computer at home to your washer and dryer. It's the plus mind how much do you? How much you score versus what your cabinet is constantly gala bam against Notre Dame. What's the spread? Oh, gosh. It would be about twenty Alabama. Michigan. It would be fourteen right right at the two touchdown, Mark Alabama, Oklahoma, it would be sixteen and it would be right now what I have is that fifty to thirty four Alabama Georgia. It's about seventeen right now and Alabama Clemson three. Okay. So don't tell me they're better than the raiders is Clemson better than the rate or no not Clemson has the only only shot. Remember now, Clemson is balanced. And I think that's what Alabama could potentially struggle with Clemson has the number four scoring offense number four scoring defense. And this is a team right now that's leading the country in rushing yards per play against an rushing yards per play four. So they're winning. The line of scrimmage at all times running the football. And stopping the run. They do a better than anybody in the country on a per play basis, that's a huge feather in their cap. And then you look at what they're doing against an egregious Lee bad ACC right now. But what are they doing what they're supposed to be doing watching people or games? They've won by an average of fifty one points by an average of fifty one point four game stretch, they're playing unbelievably let me give credit to somebody. Now, we both like Harbaugh. Yep. Okay. When all these critics of Harbaugh route there there were two right thinking Americans joy to the whole world, the whole we've only two. Out on the planet. And so fine banners was out. The stadium was our Jim except for us. Yeah. Couple of winners. Right. Okay. Let me let me say something Brian Kelly private school cold rural. No, Jay sees a religious overtones academically hard Notre Dame winning eleven games to me is more impressive than Bama winning the title. I'm dead serious. Interesting. I think he's done a great job. A great job going undefeated is really hard by the way, they play out of conference. Michigan Stanford NFL players on those teams. And then they have the ACC relationship in the ACC has historically bad this year. I mean, historically bad Kelly. Some love Kelly is doing a great job. And he's also made a couple of of decisions this year that have changed the course of their season, benching Brandon wimbush going with Ian book has improved them fifteen points per game, fifteen points per game. That's just a coaching decision. They're also doing a lot of really good things on the ground even minus their best offensive lineman who got injured earlier this year and two guys that were in the first round last year, the mcglinchey and Quinton Nelson. So they're all the sudden down three offensive linemen from year ago. And guess what they're still doing running the ball. They can play really solid defense with Jerry Tillery. I like Notre Dame a lot. I think that they're gonna lose. So I think that they're going to go to the playoff. I think the best bet for somebody else. I own. Oh, you if you're waiting for Notre Dame to lose. I think their best bet to lose his probably Syracuse in Yankees, Dino, Babar's, great coach, and they score a lot of points that are averaging over forty points a game circuses. So maybe if all of a sudden you get a turnover or two and now Notre Dame can't catch up. I think that's the blueprint to beat the Irish I like this whole let's go back to the Klatt. You're like an oddsmaker. It's it's a plus minus system. So basically, I have this huge me, actually. Yes, along with one of our guys here named Steve Owens who does a great job in helping me in research, and what we do is basically we plug in on average. So here's a for instance, let's say Oklahoma scores fifty points on you, and you on average give up twenty five K. Well, then they get a plus twenty five value for that game. Okay. And then you average out what's your plus minus over the course of the year in scoring offense scoring defense total yards. Awesome defense. And then rush and pass, and you can get a good sense of what teams are dominant in what areas, and then what matchups are bad for certain teams. Here's the things that you're gonna see. Oklahoma is the best offensive team in the country in the country by all those plus minus statistics, they're also really bad on defense awful, really bad on defense, Alabama. And Clemson are the only two that are consistently strong across the board in every category. Even Michigan who I think is a great team. We'll have a plus or minus ninety sixth category there ninety six in the country and plus minus passing yards per game. Well, that's not very good. So they basically averaging fifty yards less per game. Throwing the ball them. What their opponent averages giving up? That's not very good. Yeah. That plus or minus will give I think Michigan against score outcry boat race by Alabama. I don't love their offense. They would get beat by fourteen points because that's what my model says. Well, I got a supermodel at home. She says, you know, what else you got a book, by the way, damn has this Sweeney doesn't like me. Why does Deb own alike? You the day we left, no doubt. Tonight. We wanted to play Alabama. Because now y'all got to change your stories. You got to change the narrative. Gotta mix it up. You know, the guy that called us a fraud. Ask Alabama for a fraud was a name, Colin coward SQL and never met him. No him ask him if for all. Paul. Joel clawed. You're not gonna hold grudges that was two years ago. He's a good, dude, sir. He's decent. Our three live in Los Angeles. Welcome back. This is the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening. Iheartradio, Fox Sports radio f s one joy Taylor is joining us. We had breaking news right before our show a couple of hours ago when it started Dez Bryant to the New Orleans Saints. And I think we both feel like it's something it's not the it's not everything, but he can play still he should have been the league. But I think, you know, everybody's a little hesitant with a high maintenance players, especially when you have, you know, the young bad teams don't want Dez because everybody's just trying to win games, and he'd be disruptive in the good teams are worried about a guy like Dez because they don't want to upset all their mo- jail. But New England brought in Josh Gordon, and I watched him Sunday, and it's working, and I think the saints looked at that game with New England and Brady Josh Gordon thought, you know, what does could be a good enough to make plays. And I do think Dez is not going to happen in a week the saints bingles this Sunday, by the way, keep your eye on upset there. I don't think he's gonna make a big splash this Sunday. But I think Dez Bryant it will be a little like, Josh, Gordon. Maybe not quite as good, but a powerful strong receiver that gives them an occasional player to down the stretch in the last six weeks, and I gotta tell ya. The NFC is wide open. I mean, it is what they're eleven teams still vying for six pots and the New Orleans Saints told him anything wrapped up Carolina's on their tail in Atlanta, just went out and got somebody told me Atlanta went out and got somebody this morning. They went out and got a Bruce Irvin from the raiders. So they went out and got a pass rusher this morning. So all of these teams, you know, most of the NFL outside about five New York Giants, you know, Cleveland Brown messes New York Jets. They're all in it. So I like to move saints Bengals this Ananth FOX by the way Cowboys host the saints week thirteen on Thursday night football. So that'll be fun Dez Bryant Beal dial, Dan, maybe not this week. But it'll be dialed in for that game. Tone up in fifteen minutes. TJ Hirschman zodda his thoughts on desk. Bryant to the New Orleans. Saints will Troy Aikman. The all time cowboy great when he talks especially in Dallas. And he talks about the Cowboys and Jerry Jones people listen. And after that sluggish performance in loss. I'm gonna night football. The titans. Just Aikman came out. Criticizing the Cowboys. And just listened to the word he uses here. I talked to people I talked to people who've been inside the building and have a pretty good understanding of of how things are run in a lot of ways there's a lot of dysfunction, and and that has to change if this team is going to be able to compete on a consistent basis. Like the teams that you look to around the league that seemingly are in the hunt each and every year. So let's talk about the word this phone. Talk in Dallas yesterday that was the talk around the country yesterday. Troy Aikman didn't talk like that about the Cowboys much dysfunction. Is he right about that? Yes. Yes. We have seen over the last one hundred years in this country wealthy families, the DuPont's the Kennedy's the Rockefeller's the Hearst family, the Trump's wealth creates power and leverage. And it creates celebrities and stars and entitlement and it creates him dysfunction. I told joy this yesterday. The Lakers Real Madrid, Manchester United New York Giants New York Yankees. Fica the soccer organization. I o see the Olympic Committee. Dallas Cowboys New York Knicks when you are that big and there's so much money involved. You start making decisions for money couple years ago. The Lakers signed Kobe Bryant to a massive contract why because they're broadcasting partner. Time Warner said we're not signing a deal and less you signed Kobe and the Lakers made a move for Time Warner now ready for the team to appease a broadcaster for the for the record years ago. The yes network, the Yankees games, and they said sign a-rod big contract. Well, it's a lot of money you want you want to deal with us. You want your games on? Yes network. Make sure you sign a rod. So when you're a rich family the DuPont's when you're a rich organization Real Madrid. These these these Manchester United Dallas Cowboys New York Yankees. There is. So much money in so much wealth. The decisions are often made not just about wins and losses. So I think Troy Aikman's common and dysfunction is accurate. It's fair there some of it, and I would say it you see more of it than you do less at the very top the second word. Troy Aikman us. Let's overhaul. That's another big word. Let's go without this team over a long period of time has been what it's been. And it hasn't always mattered who the head coach is Ben. And so to me grass can me I'd say there has to be a complete overhaul of the entire organization. You just can't simply replace head coaches and say now it's going to be better. No, it it. It's it's been shown that it's not better. Now. That's where I disagree. The Chicago Bears made one move Trubisky played for John FOX Trubisky now with Matt Nagy one move. It changed everything thirteen points. More game. Sean McVeigh replaces Jeff Fisher. Now, they did get a left tackle. And they grab Robert Wood JR. Wide receiver. But it made one huge move. Jeff Fisher defensive guy. Sean McVay offensive guy, by the way, the Philadelphia Eagles. Know that chip Kelly. We brought in Doug Peterson. And it changed everything. This is a quarterback coach league. Don't kid yourself coaches manner. Never forget the four teams in college football that are one two and three and four Nick Sabin, Dabo Swinney, Brian Kelly and Jim Harbaugh all four those programs before those coaches got there. Those huge brands were mess. Bama was a mass. Clemson was a mess. Michigan was a mass in Notre Dame was a mess. I don't believe the Cowboys need an overhaul. I think the new coach, and I think they probably have to draft another quarterback. But let me tell you. I don't think it's an overall they have cap space. They have an excellent athletic aggressive talented front seven very few in the league better than them. It's a passing league. They now have a number one receiver you need a star running back to that helps they got one of those. They also have an elite left tackle and their offense of lines. Not as good as it was years ago. It's still top eight stop ten. I agree with the dysfunction, which I think is unavoidable in wealthy families and any mega brands. I just think it's I think it's unavoidable that much money creates dysfunction, but I don't think the Cowboys need an overhaul. I think with the Cowboys new need is a fresh leader at the top in do think you've got one more year adak the rest of this year or next year you should draft another quarterback dysfunction. Yes overhaul. I disagree. You know, I will say one of the things I really like about the NFL. And it drives me nuts about baseball. Baseball just struggles to adapt and evolve and make change. I gotta tell you this. Josh Gordon to the patriots golden Tate to the eagles Dez Bryant to the saints. As a consumer is a fan. It just makes it more fun. Like, we talk about sports all the time. Lebron the Lakers Jim Harbaugh to Michigan. A rod to the Yankees. Chris Paul to the rockets. I like fun are too big brands. Yeah. I mean like the Dez Bryant moved to the saints. So, you know, I I think his impact on the games will be fairly granular. It will be fairly small. But man, when this is not college football, these these NFL games think about this. The worst team in the NFL's buffalo, Minnesota's top ten buffalo. The rookie quarterback went to Minnesota and blew him out at a twenty-seven nothing lead in. So you. In pro sports. You're never going to have a locker room, especially when you have fifty five guys in the NFL, we alike everybody or everybody likes everybody. New England has about as good a job as possible that they're all unified headed in the same direction. So you know, a Dez Bryant he's no better today than three months ago. New Orleans is in a dog fight in their own division. Carolina's not going away Atlanta. Great last weekend. What New Orleans is saying is can you make a play? I mean Kenny make a play. It is remarkable. We've seen games this year. They've all come down to a play all of them. You mean one play New England and the Packers on Sunday Green Bay fumble. That was that that was hard for Green Bay to overcome that fumble only at one big mistake the fumble. But it felt like it changed the game. And I watch you know, New England Kansas City earlier this year, so dense Brian to me, even if he's slightly. Disruptive. Can you make a play? And I think he can I don't think he'll make it this weekend. But I think he can by seller hold. We have a great last forty five minutes. TJ Hoffman's oughta all coming up next to my thoughts on the Lakers who played tonight and a number that may surprise you in their favor. That's coming up. One. More heard heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like don't be that guy in the room in the long sloppy. Look at untucked shirt good untuckit dot com, code her twenty percent off on dot com code hurt. I wear them all the time, by the way, Lakers host Minnesota tonight. Jimmy Butler is gonna play and Lakers are foreign six, but they're interesting. They're fun to watch their third in the NBA and field goal percentage. Their third in scoring and LeBron's like twenty eight eight eight he's fine. Everybody's freaking out though because he hasn't had a dominant game. As numbers aren't quite as good and Doug Gottlieb, Kim on the other show, our show the other day and said this just give me one game where you. Oh, yeah. Lebron's the best player in the league. I haven't seen it the is not there defensively like just take over be selfish show us why your LeBron James that there's something there that that's missing from the brunt. And I can't explain it. I wish you could. Well, I will try LeBron is doing what parents do he's allowing the Laker kids to figure some of their problems out. This is what you do is apparent. Lebron got stacks of money and titles. He moved to a team with a bunch of kids, and he's letting them make mistakes and figure some stuff out on their own. What value is it? If LeBron drops forty eight tonight plays every minute. And they and they win or lose by a bucket in the end, you got to figure out if coups MMA and Lonzo and Josh heartened, Brandon Ingram compla-. There's no is why LeBron figured it out years ago. I'm gonna take some nights off this is all about may and June. Everybody loves Westbrook. Oh my God. He plays hard every night. What are you doing? Do. You know how? Many three pointers Westbrook is hit in the fourth quarter this year zero he's a shot fighter by the fourth quarter. D-notice free throw percentages in the fourth quarter. Fifty eight percent, Westbrook's are shot fighter. But he plays hard. He shouldn't pace yourself. There's eighty two games. This is why every year Westbrook gets to the first round of the playoffs and he's absolutely exhausted. Remember this? The screen. Three. Challenge. This time. He's got nothing. Nothing. These. Shading heavily lean. He's got nothing in the tank. It's the first round he hasn't hit a three pointer this year in the fourth quarter Westbrook. His free-throw percentage is fifty eight percent congrats on crushing Denver on a Tuesday and scorned forty eight and getting ten boards, but LeBron's babysitting right now, he's got to figure out if the kids can play, and it's just let's let's sit here. Let's watch him. Let's monitor let's elevate. You know, I it's this this idea that about ten years ago. All you fans started saying you didn't care what LeBron did six for six m j six for six six, and when you did that with LeBron you told him nothing matters except the finals, so LeBron paces himself and tries to get to the finals. And here's the thing about LeBron. You may not like him. But dude it is June. And LeBron looks like it's November. He's got nothing, but energy and Westbrook shot. So I do get LeBron's doing. And I think it's the right move. And with that I bring in. Former Pro Bowl wide receiver one of my friends one of my favorite guys. I bring on this show, a real insider, TJ horsemen zodda. By the way. I don't know if I could spell your name without looking at it too mazing. That's an amazing name. Nice. Call you Bush. Yeah. Who's pushy so TJ? Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing eleven NFL seasons. Push. So Dez Bryant to the saints like it or not. I love you actually, love it. Yeah. Really? I was going just thinking about it. When I when I saw on TV today that the Saint sign them or not the last year he had a competent quarterback. That was really a thrower was twenty fourteen. Yeah, he played extremely well. Dak Prescott is a good quarterback. But he's not he's not a receiver friendly quarterback so to speak. He's gone with the most accurate passer NFL if they give him the targets. Everybody's gonna say oh my God. Why didn't dads get signed sooner? He's going to play extremely well. If he gets an opportunity, and he gets those target. How long do you think he's in shape? Oh guarantee he's in shape guarantee. If you wanna. Play. He should have been working out five days a week Monday through Friday, Saturday Sunday off and just grinding it just grinding in hope it pays off. And if it does it, okay? It is what it is is the drew Brees, Sean Payton system highly complex that you need six to eight weeks. I don't this is just me personally. I don't believe any system is that complex football is universal. They can run a drive concept. They might not call it. Dr they'll call it something else until until you understand the plays. You just. When they call it plays. Oh when we were when I was with the Cowboys. This is what we call it. An you memorize it that way. That's how you remember certain things until you get a grasp football's universal it's not that hard. So you think he comes in and makes an impact in two weeks. Michael Thomas has seventy catches Alvin Kamara or second receipt. I know is. So if anything like, I think he is I think he's gonna light it up. I really he's playing with you breeze. You give a little bit of separation to balls on a money balls on the money because you get to the playoffs. They're going to they're not going to let Michael Thomas do what the Rams point. They're not going to allow that. And when Camara comes into the game they normally run him on toss plays outside or give them options. No to go in and out in the passing game. They're gonna stop that teams are going to shut that down. And force. You to go to Benjamin Watson or force you to go to the other receiver to Ricky Smith. Yeah. That's going to be Dez Bryant. Now. He can get opening win yesterday. Troy Aikman said dysfunctional and overhaul for the. Cowboys dysfunctional maybe overhaul. I don't buy it. Do you know what I was thinking is like Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones fired themselves. We we suck. We know. We're doing we're going to get rid of ourselves and hire somebody else. Choi heartbreak me they need overhaul their dysfunctional. Here you go take over, you know, lead us to where we need to go. I if if it's that bad if they are going to far that would you fire yourself? I don't think they're gonna make a ton of moves. I don't think they're that far off. I think there are a coach if you put McVay in that offense tomorrow, I'd be like a better football team. You just need creativity. They don't have. Tibby? They they're playing back Prescott. Like he's Tony Romo. He's not. Tony Romo was a great passing quarterback. Tony Romo was extremely smart. And I'm not saying that that Prescott is a smart. I don't know. But I know he doesn't throw the ball like Tony Romo and you have to cater your offense to what you have run somewhat of a Philadelphia style office for Dak Prescott. And they're not doing that you go back to the game. They had the ball. It was third and ten they went trips right in normally everybody knows in football trips. Right. The backside receivers three receivers favors so the right. A single sire receiver to the left Gallup was a receiver to the left. They got man to man, why wouldn't that be Amari Cooper to the left? They played them press mandate through Gallup ago route he didn't catch it. It was good coverage. If I just give up what I gave up to get Amari Cooper. He's a single side receiver because they're going to man you up on third down fourth down it came back with the same formation. They play coverage. I'll put Amari Cooper has extra for single side. To see if he can win. So you think it's more garrison? Dak I I don't know who. Well, Linden hand is office coordinator, it's Linda Hanner geared. It's one of them. They're not creative. They're not. There's certain times in games where the system like Sean Payton, like McVeigh, get you open the Dallas system. They're not getting guys. They don't ever do guys are forced to get open. Like, we played Cincinnati. We were forced to get open. We didn't have play calls. Got goddess open. We had to get open. And that's what they're doing and Dallas. And they don't have those type receivers, you know, it's interesting. I want to run this video. Do we have the video of Bella Chet criticizing Aaron Rogers? So I mean, listen ballot. Check before the games at Aaron's, great, blah, blah, blah, and Aaron is great. And then during the I always want to know how players sit with us. So here's Bella check talking about Aaron Rodgers Sunday during the game NFL films watch this pass rice is well, we want gotta keep doing it. Hey, we gotta keep doing it for sixty minutes pass rush. What we want? All right working. Guards. Keep in a pocket. He's trying to throw it to intercept. And now we're gonna get one. Up there. That's a great top keep president. If he runs backwards all then runabout about that's great. When you were a player, if somebody would have bad mouth, you what how does it land is to me? It's the heat of the moment. Really? He he's just getting his guys fired up coaching them up more. So than anything else. I I don't put anything into it. That's what a coach should do. What you going to say? Oh, man. This guy has great. Liz just do our best to keep him in a pocket. Don't he supposed to say that this does your did your head coach come 'cause bell a check once twice a game? We'll go to the back of the bus and start. Did you guys do that? Does your coaches? I couldn't recall my position coach not the head coach. I can't recall ever in all the games. I've played a head coach comeback. No ever Bill. Does about twice a game in. It's pretty effective. I mean, it's funny because when you say Bill everybody just assumes you're talking about a check. And that's how good he is. Because when you say Bill, that's the first thing you think oh, Bella check. Yeah. So it's funny about I was talking about this the other day that I'm older, right? But as you get older and young people come in any business media law dentistry amount. What is our this football? You don't want to look old. I maybe get. No, I don't wanna look old. So I wanna make sure I'm in shape. I'm gonna make sure you know, the contact lenses worked so don't have glasses and look like Harry Carey. So the point is Sean McVeigh's me now and Shawn's young. He's ripped he's fit. He looks young Kyle Shanahan good shape. Young. You know, the young guys, and I'm watching these guys and I'm watching Mike McCarthy this weekend. Now, Bella check wins all his game. So he can look what he wants to look like. But I remember watching. Mike ditka. And he was a legend. And then about an hour later. I looked at him. And I thought he looks old and he sounds old and he hasn't adapted. And I'm watching Mike McCarthy the other night, and with all these young coaches. I mean, listen man, it matters in politics that matters in everything appearance vibrancy dynamic. I look at McCarthy. And I look at Aaron and McCarthy just looks like an old ticked off Chicago cop tired. He wanted to go golf, and I and it's funny because McVeigh's coming into this league now and his energy, and he's cut and he's talking he's ripping and I p carols older, but he's got good energy and Andy Reid sixty. But he's funny, and he's clever any adapts and Sean Payton's fifty four. But he looks forty four with McCarthy. I watched that game Sunday team. He's like fifty five. Fifty six fifty seven. I gotta be honest with you. He looks tired. He looks. He looks tired Aaron he looks tired of the situation. He's not. He looks crusty. He looks frosty. It's funny about it might it might crates player that ju- players you won't be getting the Christmas card from Mike McCarthy. That's for sure. You don't think players think about that stuff? See this is what happens is the pinning onto longevity of the players on the Green Bay Packers roster the stuff it gets stale because you've heard every analogy you you've heard all the we gotta play better. And then you actually when you know, the offense inside out you when you get the game plan. This happened to us you actually go through the game plan and look for new plays and get excited about a new play for that week. I'll call we got into. I knew plays this week, y you just get tired of the same thing. Okay. So Sean McVeigh got new plays. Every week. Kyle Shanahan has new plays. Every week a lot of coaches Adnew plays. I'm not saying that's the case in Green Bay. It's almost they don't just watch them in as good as Aaron Rodgers. No. Yeah. It's almost like it's like that loaf of bread. When you you wanna sandwich, and you go look like. Oh, golly. Three-week-old? So we yeah. You feel the bagel. You're like that. It's it's two days the bag. Tobago's? That's and I'm not being on. But it I mean, there's a reason presidents have consultants on what they wear. That's what I know. Somebody a guy. I don't know if he's still alive said rogue gauge was Reagan's like consultant the ties e war the shirts. He wore. They they wanna know. Everything's okay. They do that for a reason in elections, the appearance you want to be useful. When I watched McCarthy in Green Bay. He just seems there. They don't he doesn't seem new. He doesn't seem slick. He doesn't seem dynamic. I won't change. Now hearing this he's going to subtly change. He's going to start making some change because he started looking here. He's like oh. By the way, might be right. Matt Patricia hat on backwards first week joy. And I said you'll be credit for that. I said you look like a frat boy, it's a billion dollar organization can't wear your hat on backwards is a head coach, you know, what it is the owners general managers. They listen to you. They watch you a nice Colin has a point here. They they watch. This show. And they listen to what you say. And you have a point with a lot of things a lot of points that you make and they start to say, hey, man, turn out around Commons. Right. Turn it out. Or I did take credit for that. You did take credit for that you had to NFL executives go. You are absolutely right. And I'm watching McCarthy on the sideline he needs a consultant. Just like this. Mingles depress conference. And he's just grumpy, and it's like, then I see McVeigh hundred miles an hour. Peak Hyun is gum any Reid region. The sideline got vibrancy and Peyton Manning's over. There fighting yelled at wrestling yelling at players, and I think it matters McVeigh's a new wave of coaches, though, too young energetic guys that can relate to the players. I've heard from people on that team that anytime anything goes wrong. It doesn't matter whose fault. It is McVay will get in front of the team say, that's my fault. Doesn't matter whose fault. It is. It's my fault in its players. You really appreciate that. Because you know, it's not his fault. But he's gonna take the blame. Because he's the head man in charge TJ Hoffman's audit. Good stuff car shopping confusing. New car used car, go to truecar dot com. Check out true price. Save three grand off MS RPM joined with the news. Turn on the news. This is the third line news that news where you calling what your guy what? Sam darnold spent today watching jets practice from the sideline with a walking boot on his right foot. And now, he'll miss them. Gametime two is debt Cincinnati. He's out for Sunday's game against the bills and could miss their week's game against the patriots. After their by as well. Apparently Donald foot has a significant spring going to be ugly game. Well, first of all Josh Rosen. Got her darnold now her bakers been under assault for about three weeks. I don't know what happened to the Brown to align. Josh Allen got hurt. There's the we we have there is something going on here with all these rookie quarterback's going to those teams of higher eyeballs in the NFL. Don't have a complete team. Yes. And by the way, they all have battle lines Cleveland. I thought I would go online. That's not any good either. In Baker the last three weeks has been get from that chargers game on baker's been under absolute assault. Yeah. Darnell was sacked four times and hit seven times by the dolphins last week. So Wednesday was the first time that he's ever miss a practice. But that's that's not good news for the jets. So as we were just discussing the saints reached an agreement with Dez Bri. For a one year contract, which he will sign on Thursday. Oh, they've won seven straight games and ranked second in the NFL with thirty four point nine points. A game. They are actually thin at receiver. Ted Ginn junior was placed on I r with a knee injury last month and Cameron Meredith is not panned out so far zero targeted the pets three games and outside of Michael Thomas their next leading reception or the next perception leader is Alvin Kamara than they have been Watson and trae Kwan Smith does in sixteen games in two thousand seventeen sixty nine catches for one hundred thirty eight yards and six touchdowns. So I like this move for the saints think everyone felt like that should be on team just kind of waiting for the right fit and well run team with a stud quarterback if he makes waves he's gone. I also think does kind of knows by sitting out the books out on him. Yeah. I don't think I don't. I don't foresee that at all I don't see that being in the city. Like he hasn't been on team all year. He seeing what's happening with with offenses. He's actually quite valuable the way that that the office of explosion. That's happened in the NFL if he can make any impact with so ever he's going to be in a good position going into next year for anything. Yeah. So I it's like you said it's a it's a game of inches if you can make one big play. It's worth it. I'm I I don't know what they signed the details of the contract yet. But I'm sure the saints are put themselves in a position where it's not a disaster. If it doesn't work out, right? But but it's it didn't move and everyone's going to be very excited for that match up later in November against the Cowboys. And speaking of the Cowboys. Shanley cannot say help in Dallas Morning new lows. We'll miss four to six weeks after he injured his hamstring Monday nights hamstring issue that also kept him out of three games earlier this season. It's over it's over. I mean, he's that with injuries his entire career. He hasn't played a sixteen game slate in his career despite being leaked since two thousand ten this is why they took a linebacker out of a small. University Vander eight man football guy. This is why they did that I like, Sean Lee. But this is why and I and I actually like Jalen Smith who I liked their linebackers. I think the linebackers are second third best unit. Smith lane. Smith lane Vander action, Damian Wilson. Yeah. They'll probably see time. Now. I mean, he is the leader of the defense. But I I mean, he just say healthy, and he's has a a cap hit of over ten million going into next year. So so he's done here old. It's done. We'll see what happens there joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard li- like him. Macomer like him. He's a good player. But you gotta stay healthy. He's he's the leader of their defense. But it's always seemed to be a hamstring situation with him. And I mean do not have to be there. You have to be available. All right. I'm your stockbroker. You have questions. I'll tell you to buy your stock sell your stock or hold your stock. It's by so hold time to. Golly will decide if he'll by it. So. Speaking of the Cowboys by Ciller hold the Cowboys will finish below five hundred for the first time index career. Well, they're two games under five hundred now at three and five and let's look at their schedule at Philadelphia at Atlanta, Washington, New Orleans, Philadelphia at Indiana. What are they all have in common? Their next six games are against teams battling for playoff position. John. It's a rough road. Cowboys will be under five hundred for the first time in Dax career by solar. Hold Aaron Rodgers and Kirk cousins will miss the playoffs. Well, the Vikings are currently the second wildcard team also a half game behind Chicago for the division. Kirk cousins is actually having a good year. And we know this team offensively with those lied receivers scores and can push the ball down the field. We don't doubt that. But I think people are overlooking the Vikings defense, which after a rocky first three weeks a lot. Out of it because they had a tough schedule there. Now I in the NFL and sacks I in third down defense and first in red zone. Touchdown percentage allowed excuse me. Third in that. So John they'll sell south. Now the Vikings are gonna make the playoffs. They can go over the top. They can run the ball. And this defense after a rocky September is really really buttoning things up by seller. Hold drew Brees is the best quarterback in the NFC. Well, I don't even know what the argument is. He short is that we're holding against him. Now completion percentage is seventy six percent. It not only is it. I it's absurd. I couldn't do that plan catch with Goulet from here. Number one in touchdowns number one in fewest picks passer ratings number one. And I think he's got better leadership qualities than you know, who in Wisconsin, John. Yes, drew Brees right now is the best. Quarterback in the NFC. Why are we still arguing it? I've great hands. We could totally get eighty percent. All right. Bye. Sell hold. The raiders will make the playoffs again before the Cowboys. Listen, we're I think we're over dramatizing a little Dallas as plight. Excellent front seven star running back, elite left tackle. Let's slow down on this Kate. The raiders have one playoff appearance in fifteen years. The Cowboys have six okay, the raiders are man overboard in the raiders don't even have a home game neck. They don't even have a home next year. So John sell sell sell the Cowboys. We'll get back to the play offs before the raiders by seller. Hold lebron. James Russell Westbrook. Or James harden will miss the playoffs. Lebron hasn't missed the playoffs since the second year in the NBA Westbrook's made it eight of nine years in James harden has never missed the playoffs. Listen this game. This league is more offensive than ever. And some of these good teams are losing shootout slow down take a deep breath. Remember the Lakers have beaten the band teams lost to the one great team Toronto and had been in five go either way games. John sell sell sell. Also, LeBron Russell and James will all make the playoffs. Last one buy-sell sell hold. Jim Harbaugh will make the college football playoff for the first time. Well, Alabama's not gonna lose clemson's not gonna lose the weaker ACC. And I don't think Notre Dame's gonna lose. So it's going to come down to about four spot. I would not have made this bet three weeks ago because I didn't know I thought they'd beat Michigan state and Penn State, but I didn't know what they'd look like. But they dominated Michigan state. They annihilated Wisconsin. They completely humiliated Penn State and right now states defense is a mess on. And I'm not I'm I mean, Ohio State my entire life could run the football and play defense. They can't do either. Michigan is significantly better than everybody in the big ten John. Yep. They're gonna make it. I also think Georgia will have a second loss and in would be shocked. Oaklahoma with an atrocious defense also gets upset in that arena. League called the big twelve coming up next. The biggest story of the NFL week. Ten will definitely be taking place off the field. That is next in best for last. Sunday at the plate of NFL action highlighted by drew Brees in seven and one saints taking on eighty dollars in the Bengals or Philip rivers in the chargers battle the raiders. It's all on FOX and Fox Sports at check local listings for the game in your area, by the way, I think we're going to crazy on this whole Alabama could beat an NFL team. They haven't faced any quarterbacks their out of conference schedule. They faced Louisville's terrible on a neutral field. They faced Arkansas state, Louisiana Lafayette. And I think they face citadel later. They beat Ed ores you're on this weekend who gives a rip. I mean, USC wouldn't even give him a job interview. I mean, the the side that can beat an NFL team. They wouldn't be good Canadian Football League team if they played Clemson the line's going to be three we literally do this every year they played Georgia last year with two and it was a dog fight. They won the national championship on the final play the game. This idea that George in Alabama, they're recruiting the same kids. And by the way, Kirby Spartan knows Alabama's offense and dabbled Sweeney's already beaten him once and couldn't beat. Him twice this. This idea that Alabama. You can't beat him a bunch of hooey them played anybody LSU when it or Giron went and tell me the last great quarterback. He they haven't faced a decent court. They haven't faced a decent college quarterback. Look at it this way. Do you think that they could beat the Browns the God? No, they'd get the get stomped like a narcotic bikers route. Beat the bounds. So. Do you think he'd beat the jets? The Browns beat the jets college team can never ever beat the absolute worst NFL team ever. Thank you. Because the call a college team may may have say that's be generous ten NFL player by how many in the last decade? How many Alabama players have come into the NFL man stars four? Let's just say there's there's ten players on this Alabama team. You'll be great in the NFL. Many NFL players are on the raiders team all of them not hard, by the way. I gotta read this. You won't understand your DNA. And to know your family story, go to Twenty-three Mehan Sestri service kit forty-nine bucks when you buy two twenty three and me dot com slash the heard. All right. Best for last after almost three hours. Colin apparently hasn't gotten to the point yet quit holding out on us. Coward cates. The best for less. Join. I are literally the only people in America makes sense anymore. Alabama's gonna beat the raiders. What is it? I I could not agree with that statement, the raiders already beat another NFL. It doesn't make an by the way, they beat Cleveland Cleveland beat Baltimore. So the Bela Benowitz. Benowitz team isn't even the best college football team of all time. The Miami hurricanes had a team would like twenty eight NFL guy. They wouldn't have us. Yeah. And nine of those guys went into the NFL and were studs, by the way, Thursday. We have a great game on our network. It incredible. It is the Steelers hosting Carolina. The game sells itself FOX wanted us to run a couple of promos to rant the game up. And I this is just my opinion. I think the game sells itself, and I don't think it needs a lot of promotion. But here's the promoter promotion the hand of this Thursday the Panthers head to Heinz field a take on the first place Steelers and Le vian bell. Heads to the end of his driveway to take out the recycling NFL action tomorrow night. I don't think you have to mention levian bell in the promo. I think the game is amazing. I think it's one of the five best games of the year. I mean, it's nice that he recycles. I guess I don't think you need to mention levian bell in the promos. They've got another one. Thursday, the Carolina Panthers head to Pittsburgh to face one of the hottest teams in football, while levian bell faces the hottest pockets in his microwave NFL action tomorrow. I just think they're pushing it. I don't think you have to mention him like that that seemed agreed just to me. We're trying too hard to make lady and bell part of the game. Hot pockets of tricky, though. They are good. Yeah. You can't bite right into them. You burn your mouth it. You gotta make sure gets heated properly. I just think Carolina. Pittsburgh is the it's maybe the the I'm not sure if there's ever been a Thursday game this good. So there's a bunch of promos. I don't think we need promos for it. Thursday, the first place. Pittsburgh Steelers look to continue their push to the playoffs while Levy on bell looks to invent time travel. So he can be himself back to September and stop himself from making such a regrettable career choice NFL action tomorrow night. Yeah. That that's a cheap shot that that was over the top. I don't like us doing that stuff. It's too early to tell if it was a bad career. He made come back and win a Super Bowl. So anyway, the game. Yeah. Yeah. He's not gonna get seven point seven million back. I don't like the movie made. Yeah. I just wouldn't have made the move. I think but the game I would say in the history of Thursday night football. Do you ever? Remember a game this good now. This is very good. Yeah. Oh, you're right. You're right. Rams vikings. What network was out on? This one. Apparently, there's one more promo. Go ahead. One more. Now, just the three. That's it. All right. All right. That was enough. Three was enough. That was fine. Nice job. You know, I got a somebody was telling me they said they texted me. And they said man, you're just killing McCarthy. I'm not killing Mike McCarthy. Green bay. What I am saying is we see this in politics all the time telegenic appearance. Do you feel robust you look robust? I said this a couple of said this a month ago. Joy, Sean McVay is going to get dudes fired. Sean McVeigh is going to get. I mean that that's a given. He is getting an end matinee GI may do the same thing. These young vibrant dynamic coaches in every time, I watch Mike McCarthy and Rogers it makes me think a Ditto Ditto was a rock star. And then an hour later he felt old and outdated and he wasn't slick enough. And it's like Mike McCarthy needs a wardrobe consultant. Maybe he's got to put it may slickest bad. I don't know about the appearance thing. I I was I was with you with the with Matt Patricia in the hat, although I am not at backward. Tat means something person. Has a bad. Look it. It wasn't the best luck. But they all wear like sweat. I'm saying the Vince Lombardi fedora anymore. I just it just did that McCarthy Rogers thing it just doesn't look and feel dynamic it doesn't feel right? It looks frosty. It looks like they don't like each other. I don't like the way it looks. I don't like the what my eyes tell me. All right. We'll see you tomorrow. It's the herd.

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Be What? Sam? It's exciting, but at the same time, obviously wish we are Still, up in Edmonton, and just getting ready for the quarterfinals of the Stanley Cup but So way it shook out and here and. Get back to the drawing board, and we need to do to move on to the playoffs in the future I. Guess. Why Young Alexander your lovely wife. FELICIA. is number three do. First. Week of October. Lico the. Off Season during the cold and stuff. So it's that works out somehow, and I should be able to be around for the birth number three and that's obviously exciting. I'm number two is a little bit scary being in Toronto and getting caught in the middle of the night to get home Immediately I did make it but That was a little scary are the with number three to join Simon and Selena. Are. The initials of number three going to be P., A., B., or PK. VERSE TWO OUR S S so It has to go. They'd have to be way different to be any of those three I, mean I it we have. Not set on anything but I gotTA do some more homework and and On my end in the final named. Hey, we're about with with that cohesion, you had Sunday with Arrigoni with a, you know a certain south Florida, track called Gulfstream I. Think you should do be a and go barbara and stay lock. How's that sound? That's not bad. I never cohesiveness. I never got around to getting back to be able to happy for him, and I'm glad it was one of those days that I didn't have time and things got busy and I didn't get involved because it. Doesn't take. It went really well for. Yeah. Come on. I mean sixty one, thousand reason to like tech somebody back. I I took my first Cova. Tests yesterday at the Vikings Facility, the the swab tickles the nose and I know before you went to the bubble, you went through a series of Cova tests like what did you think of a whole process and stuff were? Were you a little like nervous into it, and then it happened and then you're like Oh, that's it. Avi Well for us. Yeah. Leading up to it I think we're every other day year once we did get up to the the so called bubble, it was every day and I know the big thing was For guys was taking the right nurse. If you know what I mean, they're you're here, we have like three Okay. For nurses and you know some go deeper into the maze of Cabbie and someone you knew who to go to Yeah. So you get up to the bubble and also fifteen lanes to pick from and Obviously, there one day was nasal in one day was. In Thriller Day was was not fun and then every time. You gagged and They had to go deep in the drought so that that wasn't very fun It was Yeah and then you never saw results of those tests or any of that stuff. But they seem like they did a great job and didn't have a positive test once we got up to the bubble and That was very effective way the NHL They kept a tight security was tight nothing from the outside, and once you're in Iran and there's fifty three or fifty, two bodies, each team allowed in there and. you know guys are smart about it, and obviously they're on to the next round with no issues. So it was It was Kinda flawless and you know what it was fun. It was. Fun thing to be a part of. The all the other teams, a lot of moving parts of the small area It was great. Amen when I got back from a Monday night column, Racism Canterbury, yesterday settled in eight. A meal started to watch some TV and I? Think on CINEMAX. There was a show called, pick the nurses I always love that one. So I like quickly went to NHL Network and just like you know kind of caught up on stuff like that Alex loughgall tender for the Minnesota. Wild, the the way with the with the situation I start doing vikings work at twin cities. Orthopedic Performance. Center on Monday, Super Special Work, beginning Monday. So multiple test. Test this week, and it's like you know when I took it yesterday I mean like I can taste. I could smell I. Don't have any symptoms, but you got like that as symptomatic Cova terrorism that we hear about read about or is bouncing around. So like low key man, there was like seven percent when I went to bed last night, I'm like when I, wake up this morning I, hope we see not detected, and then we saw a not detected I'm like, Hey, nineteen bleep you. Let's go right and that was test number one, right and you have to get to before you show up to to facility. I'll be back there tomorrow. and. That's the weird thing is you know obviously is it can happen at any time. So when we were here doing it every other day that was none of. That was Kinda. The part where you know you go to the grocery store and. You get in fact there and all of a sudden you're chilling for a day and a half. So that was kind of scary part you're getting ramped up to Boston, the bubble and. and small little MISSTEP could Derails you or a couple of guys you know. So that's that's part of this and you know. So I think the bumble outside the bubble is so effective of any. Doubt about a man. We got KFI in. Canterbury some you know some vikings, related stuff kids. All Bang sly. You know when? When the when. I let the innermost individuals within the Covenant Know What was transpiring yesterday, you know they all wished me well, but I think low key. You know they were just like two percent nervous because if I got bit in a symptomatic fashion, then that like changes a bunch of lives and I I didn't want to be a walking clipping penalty now I know. There's nothing you can do honestly early about, and that's that's the weird thing Still trying to figure this whole thing out. not to be weird or anything, but I'M GONNA give you credit the the performances in the bubble. I know it didn't work the right way I. Know we had a greasy overtime goal. Now, all of sudden you're back home in Minnesota but you gave everything I know you're devastated losing that game in overtime. So the whole thing was weird training camp. Camp Two, point zero. Then you're in Edmonton your facetime from a hotel room where where you're like in their fifteen hours in Raleigh, just that it's almost like the whole thing was a blur and it didn't happen. But man, you know, I just know you put everything into it. You did the best you could. So I'd like to publicly give you credit for that. and. Are Groups that are great job. Obviously where we left off, we are one of the hotter teams in the League and. You know a good feeling about you know last games or whatever we had in the remainder of the schedule to get into playoffs and. Fortunately for us when it got shut down in the NHL, all their homework and they came back with their return to play plan and twenty four teams were getting in and we were one of them. We kinda got a second life and you guys showed up ready to go and day one of Bay. Street when we came together as a group we. We, we had a goal that You know. We were going to be Vancouver, and You guys had a good training camp. We got up there the unknown of what it was going to be like when we got up there, but like I said, the NHL did a terrific job with with the bubble and it made it so easy for the players The the one thing that all we had to worry about playing hockey and. that made it easy for us, and you know obviously, we it was a great series and You know we came out with the with a great. You know game in game one and then. From there, we just You know we has one ball games and game and You know bouncier there in the series changes. But you know we will learn. We got, we got a group You know we got great veterans, and at the same time, we got young guys that are still learning the right. The right way to win win big games and Valuable experience, we gained up there obviously You know going into the this. Now that's of secondary off season. We'll see what happens Guys are Kinda looking forward to getting back on the ice started against. Hey, how what we have here? Hey, Alex, like with where you are now in August child to arrive early. October. Like what do you do now? Man You keep chopping trees to stay in shape or do do you like eat some greasy food put on a couple of pounds and be like normal? was funny because that was outside this morning with the dog and I'm kind of looking around the yard and say ball. I. Guess. It's back to work out here for a little bit and. Finish, some of the projects I started during the during the shutdown and But Yeah I. Enjoy a little greasy food here or there, but but get some stuff done around the house. Get caught up around here and just call it a time with the kids. Obviously, before another enters the house and Now, it'll be a good time. You're here in Minnesota to obviously whether starts getting a little cooler and. and I'm looking forward to it. Obviously. Big Evening Tonight mentioned it yet, but we had a horse. Yeah. We got a horse that's running. We'll see you I, mean I didn't know about it. Until I. saw your name in the Star Tribune sports section today. There's like I have like a blurb big quarter, horse racing day at Canterbury. Today, there's a massive stakes race called. Northland's trace number six about seven o'clock of you WanNa come out and watch Canterbury Park Dot Com to get your tickets and that's That's a big spot for you today, ma'am. I saw your name in the newspaper as CO owner of a fabulous painting running in that big stakes race. Today's four to one. In the morning line. He absolutely can win I think after you know after certain individuals who execute their toil on skates and you know maybe find their way to the Palatial Pony Paradise get done betting. Think you'll be favored. You gotta be excited for that today man that's going to be cool. Very exciting the big part is Seeing those horses absolves again those athletes man and from what I hear. It's it's It's a freak of an athlete. I haven't seen the horse in person. So it'll be a, it'll be fun tonight Well, that's you're not obviously. That's your fault. You know why? No location whereas ran I haven't been out and get down to Oklahoma and they are. Early Spring edged. Out and then obviously being out of town on his last wrap. It was almost nearly impossible to see the phone now that that's inaccurate with all due respect, you are so freaking negative on the horse when he lost his first three races, any regrets bashing him the way you did during the early stages of his career, and now today at seven o'clock, he's going to be favored in an eighty, seven, thousand dollar piece your names in the newspaper. He has legitimate chance to win. I don't think there's any. obviously at the time you just. Upsetting the only thing going on in the world was worse ray racing sport and to be a part of a horse that was probably asked the time at the time like they say, maybe the slowest horse in the country, it was It was frustrating, but obviously, it figured something else Tonight yeah, So other than last one, other than creating your third child, could this possibly be the best eighteen seconds of your life tonight. Or something like that was coming I, hope it I. Hope it's faster than eighteen. I. Don't I don't know what tops in his last race but I'm alternate faster than eighteen and then at the end I'll have the the team purple had in honor circle I'll be smiling and mind. Cutting checks and. Enjoying that. So I'm looking forward to the We'll see you this evening. Yup, M. pop tags, Arnold, see you and your family later, Canterbury Best of luck to that animal Appreciate you coming on the radio show again? Great Workman did very best. You could chill out clear your mind and we'll talk soon. Okay. Take care why a young Alex Alexander stay lock goaltender for the Minnesota. Wild kicks off nine to noon. Today is part of the set list. Cartasi of Timber Tech. Timber Dot Com. What's on deck nine to noon is provided by timber tech looking to construct the perfect deck for you right now with an unprecedented warranty and material that looks the most light would it's incredibly durable needed deck. Nita. Porch. 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Thong bathing five. Morning Ryan Burns. Bow. Hunter I. Can hear the smile coming through the radio at FM, one hundred point three. K. F.. A. N. and I figured with those big ten report with football and everything. Yesterday you needed that Mario related smiles of just take it in man for about seven seconds. Okay. Show. Do. You? Think you. Need. Ma'am is with the with the report yesterday started at ESPN. I, picked it up Detroit free press that that the big Tan you know may be in it. Maybe officials today, maybe it's official Mr. I've been jumped on twitter in the last twenty, four minutes that there were no big ten, football. Twenty twenty could be postponed to the spring could be cancelled when When, when all of that hit yesterday. In fact, about twenty three hours from now? How hard did that hit? You Man? I. Mean. It's Ryan. Burns at Ryan Burns M N via twitter, and he runs gopher illustrated, dot com, and good morning. Yeah, it's. It's been a crazy twenty four hours. It's been a crazy week and just the amount of reports that come out, and then you're trying to fact, check them with your sources and the no one really knows what's going on and that's really the the prevalent theme is you ask someone associated with? I. Guess My position, the University of Minnesota. What are you hearing and when no one knows anything or they know something and then it changes in our. That's kind of where we're at is. you know to for lack of a better phrase here, but he's Kinda running around with their head cut off. and. Changing. So frequently, that's where you saw that Detroit free press story came out yesterday morning that. That the big ten was going to cancel their fall season and then you know was it leaked wasn't not I don't really know. But that's certainly send shock waves through the rest of the big ten for the remainder of the day. You Saw Nebraska head coach Scott Frost come out and really say that you know they wanna play the players, WanNa, play the coaches want to play. They're gonNA potentially find alternate solutions in terms of maybe even leaving the conference versus a not. Not entirely sure who if he knows what the different bylaws there in terms of actually allowed to do that. But it's clear that there is a gigantic disconnect between the coaches and the players, the president's of their institutions, and then it comes back to Kevin, Warren. The you know the first time commissioner, they're trying to get everyone on the same page clearly, not something that was happening yesterday. Now, the latest news I saw is there supposed to be a nine thirty? Am Central Time meeting between all the big ten presidents again to try and get everybody on the same page of what they're gonNA do going forward. But it's very clear from yesterday that room is very divided and Kevin warrants got quite the process and try and make sure that everybody can get on the same page today. Well, speaking of the Commissioner I mean unless you've seen. Seen something I. Haven't. I think the last time that he splashed with this, he said that there will be big ten only there. Potentially could be big ten only season amine dilemmas. Anything here did did Kevin jump out and say y'all these stories are right. You know twelve twelve postpones cancel on Nebraska and Iowa now less push through and I missed anything from from Kevin Standpoint? Know. Last time we heard from Kevin the big ten schedule came out last week, and it was a conference only schedule and then things came out later in the week that potentially his thought process was maybe a spring season was what he wanted all along. But we haven't heard for Kevin warrants scheduled came out, and that's where lack of clarity there is learning and. It's not even necessarily Kevin warrants fault because I think this comes from leadership above him, which starts at the answer of that, Blah and. The. Lack of clarity in the last five months that we've gotten because it's hit during spring ball back in March. Obviously these these presidents and these commissioners. Had five months to really kind of figure out a plan of. Okay. So if we're GONNA. have. Fall, college football. What does that look like what are the testing procedures looks like How do we potentially move forward this and here we are in mid? August. Potentially Twenty, six, twenty, five days away from Minnesota's big ten opener against Michigan State, and we're still searching for answers to those questions and. And so that's where I don't really see a feasible way that Gopher football kicks off on September the fifth. Now, I think there's a way it can kick off and either late September or October, but there's still so many questions that we need answered from the big ten and they have to figure that out. So so Ryan Burns Gopher illustrated gopher illustrated dot com. So now the way this whole. Whole thing hit yesterday talk about that. Nine, thirty meeting today I mean it's it's I'm Racetrack Drain Ryan. Now. Now, you know more about you know instinctively speaking I would say I would trust your instincts more than mine when it comes to college football what's transpiring right now, but I'm feeling this race might not be over I. Mean for like right now fall into winter and on the other side. Side of it. You know if there is to be something for college football that begins say relatively shortly after the super. Bowl. You know then maybe there is a football monopoly to be had at that time of the year, but then you get into, then you just get into so many different scenarios and tentacles. Bad. It's just it's just also. So confusing, bow hunter, it's just so confusing. NFL, and that's even where if even look outside of the big ten used to see a report this morning come up in the PAC twelve that they had their presidents meet with the medical professionals and they got a quote Psalm Bring Medical Perspective whereas the SEC commissioner came out yesterday afternoon and his talk with his medical people said yeah, we can continue going forward. So you have one conference that's getting sombre information. You have the SEC, that's like, yeah. Our medical people say we can move forward. It's. It's five different power, five conferences in the ACC, the big ten, the SEC, the PAC twelve. and one of those escaping me right now, that is clearly not on the same page from one another. And? And they had five months from to get guidance and leadership from the double A. and they didn't get it. Now, everybody's just trying to kind of fend for themselves at this point. But I'm with you I still think there's a shot. The college football is played this fall I. Don't think it's a great shot. I would certainly think it's probably fifteen or twenty to one, and it's not even much more than that. But then then we get into what does it look like in the spring because I'm talking with people at the University of Minnesota and I'm asking them the questions that everyone wants to know when they you know they're saying back me, we'd love to know, but we haven't heard anything, and here we are X. amount of days from the season. So even if they do decide today this morning this week or whenever it may be that they're going to postpone until the spring, there's a lot of questions that still need to be answered including what? What happens to the players? Now they've been on campus for two months. They've been tested every day PJ flex. told us. As of last Friday. There were no positive cova tests, gopher football team. So they've been doing it pretty successfully in terms of making sure that their guys are healthy to go football tampering with the University of Minnesota Governor Virtual for essentially their entire fall semester. Does that include the athletes doesn't non include the athletes? If there is a spring season? When do you bring them back on campus? When can they start practicing? There's just a lot of questions that no one has answered from the you and there's a lot of things that have to be decided here this week. So, now, so okay, say say it goes pear shape time for two more copyright, Bob, Hagan Ryan. Burns, gopher illustrated. So say it goes pear shaped end. It's canceled or postponed two, zero, two one. So now for like you and Gopher illustrated man, you you start sweating gophers basketball, right? Yeah I. Mean It It would certainly be interesting. I mean girl for football recruiting would still take first and foremost, and they've got a top twenty five potentially with small recruiting news going down later this week regardless of what the big ten decides, and if you WANNA learn more, you can go and go froze dot com. But yeah. Then we're starting to see how does the big ten learn from this fall? How do they learn from not being able to get the football teams adequately up to? To snuff adequately from testing essentially meeting with I. Wonder if the Big Ten basketball players come out just like the big ten football players didn't release a joint statement trying to say if we're going to play and we need to have these demands met. Now I think truthfully, that's what all these big ten presidents are almost worried about is i. don't that it's necessarily the health and safety, but it's essential lawsuits that they would get down the line that could really hurt the bottom line and that's where. Even with the potential unionization and You know you've seen the different conference players come out and say that. But yeah, it would switch to big ten basketball and how do we get them able to potentially isn't to be a bubble scenario? Is it going to be just have better testing here in two three months than what we do right now so that we can get these guys in better procedures. Get these guys in better testing. Testing. So they're not tested on a Monday, and here we are Wednesday and Thursday, and we really don't know what the results of that is. So you hope that the big ten learns from what this past few weeks have been, and they can get them ready for a big ten basketball season. All right. So say say, no big ten, football, two, zero, two, zero. Lastly does this sadly mean more blow hunting for bow hunting Bergonzi. It does that's that's about the only solace I can get out of that is when I had the discussion with my better half, no I've been talking to her and she's been next to me and you know there might be a be a fall season this fall. You know the first thing she does is she looks at me and she says, you have no excuse to not get a bucks this fall now. Not Gonna I thought, she was GonNa put you on a honey. Do List about a mile long. Oh Trust me. I bought a house here a couple of months ago, and that honeydew list all ready seen. He's already seen a chunk. Out of it, but it all it seems ever expanding. But yeah, that'd be the only solace is I spent more time in the trees and hopefully get. A nice one on the ground, and if that's the case you know I might be able to call you. Hold. Call you about nine ten o'clock and say, Hey, I'm standing over a nice one, hundred and forty inch right now. You WanNa talk a man I'm I'm in on that. You know when this thing popped yesterday, I'm on the radio and so started sharing I think Ron. Johnson was with me at the time. You see cares about this too, and you know like I'm not being a doomsayer, but me like it was super negative, this Detroit free press thing and I two people at bought about were you in Justin Guard because. Because you and Gopher Gopher illustrated and how much work you put into this and how much you enjoy at my know how how a good justin is as the sideline analyst for the GOPHERS radio network. But how close he is people over there and you know it's more than the double using the owls man. I mean when you when you work at it hard like you guys do you develop relationships and you know you want those people to have things go well for them. So I duNno math. Oh, bad for you, guys. Well I appreciate it, and it's just Kinda Peak Minnesota sports or even gophersports to the effect of Minnesota. Football has their best season in. Nearly one hundred years, and they have a pretty good team coming back and then this pandemic kits, you might not even get a false season kind of figure it out and Resod. Bateman. OPS OUT WHO's for my money. The Best Gopher receivers certainly in my lifetime if not ever in terms of talent and you don't get to see him for a third year because now he's worried about covert and it's just. Just Kinda the way it tumbles sometimes, but we got plenty to talk about a gopher illustrated and you know fingers crossed that maybe they can figure this thing out. We get a six or eight game season. This fallen. We can try to get a twelve thirteen game season next fall, but we'll see what the big ten decides here this morning. Hey, ma'am. I am nine to noon. Got You whenever you need anything stay in touch. Okay. I appreciate you. Up. Bow Hunting Burns e Ryan Burns at Ryan Burns. NBA. Twitter it is gopher illustrated. Dot. Com speaking of colleges. There is a there is a family friend of yours. Truly. There's a kid named Jake sugarman, who at this moment is being driven to the airport by his father Eric somebody with whom I also am very close. Jake has worked with Vikings equipment for many years I've known the kid with the Nice hair since he since he was very young and right now he is driving to the airport to head to Arizona State, university? So. Young man welcome to the newest best part of your life and I got this for you. That's it man, good luck to you, Kiddo Arizona State University Fight Song Jay sugarman best of luck to you. Bless you, Eric. I know what you're feeling right now, sending a kid away to college Day warming, but it's also scary. So blessed both of you guys and. Rug goners returning home. DACA hungry runaway Pe. Walks down all along. He must be from the four years is schoolgirls. Cancer. Sad burden with Wolf fairies trust injured. The hidden. pleat sank you were. He's the whole. Stone May. Breaking beams and Croston with spastics real and perfection. Nuns. Run. Through Vatican halls pregnant. Pleading, immaculate, conception. Red Bodies. Street. From, again. At blood. Sticker smile sweet as gunner breeze, the nine, the new radio presentation. Minnesota wild general manager. Bill. Darren's. On the presentation ten o'clock, Sam Farmer. Super well respected, and at Bell and golf writer with the time. So beyond about one hour from now, Mike Florio profootballtalk dot COM this this particular Bruce Song here you like this one, Mike. The. Name of this pick that are yesterday match. Well, what is lost in the flood? All it's lost him the flood. Lost Him. Again. And we've got some bone West Virginia phone related problems analysis again, and to see see if see if he does. About. Okay. Maxwell Favor Maxwell just put a song in per second. I got a privately give you a phone number on air production meeting just. So people got something listen to just put a song and it's GonNa take two seconds. You. Already. Arrogant Stri. Florio profootballtalk dot, com phone number numeral dose. Because with Mike I mean you got some national football, league. Things that require conversation, but also big ten, potentially cancel leaner delaying football season gotta get gotTa get the Florio opinion on that near. We go a Michael Big ten cancelling or d'alene. It's football season big day day for that from what I understand, what, what do you think in good morning. Good Morning. Hello how. How are you? Good. I don't know what we're quite setting up here. We setting up a two phase college football season where the ACC and the SEC go forward in the fall, and then the big ten in the pack twelve play in the spring, and the big twelve I don't know maybe bridges of the two. It's just a weird situation overall and I'd like some clarity. Fans would like some clarity I think the NFL would love some clarity because if the college people are going to vacate Saturdays you just backfill one o'clock eastern four, thirty, eastern eight, fifteen eastern on Saturday three games in three windows and off we go. So they just need to figure it out and a lot of the points may they're making are very valid. They should have been making them in April and may not in August it's. It's a little bit too late to slap this together and I get a kick out of the fact that. This notion from the players we WANNA play. This is kind of overtaking the conversation and people are like, okay. Well, if they WANNA play, I mean I was trying to come up with an example today and it isn't a perfect example. But the best I could come up with is a group of high school kids who just graduated and they want to celebrate by going skydiving and their parents are debating the risks. The very real risks letting their kids who just graduated high school go. Go Skydiving, and they're deciding what to do, and then all of a sudden the kids say, but we really WanNa do it and the parents. Okay. Well, if they really WanNa to do and let's do it I. Mean there needs to be adult somewhere who weighs the risks makes a decision and figures out a plan. The problem is they were asleep at the switch during the months when they should have been coming up with the plan, and now they're just kind of pulling it out. Out of thin air or or out of somewhere, you know pulling out of something else that things get pulled out from time to time. How `bout? How `bout all sides of that Vikings, linebacker? Cameron Smith Story I believe it or not at first sight appropriate dot Com Cova task leads to him needing open heart surgery. Yeah. Hey, look sometimes diagnostic efforts that are looking for one thing result in other things we've seen that before we've seen guys who've had brain tumors that were spotted. Spotted based upon physical that were given to them. Before they, they were signed by a team Marcus Cannon. He had a growth in two, thousand, six or thereabouts that he was told don't worry about and then part of the pre-draft process they discovered that it's lymphoma and he needed to have cancer treatment. So you know things like that will happen. It looks like the Vikings are handling it in a way that he's GonNa get his full salary for the year instead of opting out and. A only a piece of that, which is a good gesture. If those facts are true and if that all lines up the way that that it is that that's good for him and and you know one of the rare stories we can point to and say, it's actually a good thing for him that this pandemic is happening. Yeah. The way you laid that out. It's my knowledge that all of it is true from full. Full salary standpoint. Now, you know we we we've talked about this in common thread fashion Ma'am for a long time, and now it's here three non bubble sports college football with turmoil about this baseball, the Saint Louis Cardinals, the played five games. Other teams have played like seventeen or eighteen. Now, the NFL, I mean, it's. It's just all the non bubble bit. Man is all very perplexing well, and you know the non bubble can be. Be Enhanced. It can be improved and I think the League is holding in its back pocket. The possibility of hardening the bubbles around the various cities where you just have hotels where the players stay coaches and staff. The saints are already doing that in training camp, they may be doing something that's a modified approach during the regular season. Maybe a Tuesday to Sunday thing I've heard talk of that. The buccaneers have a hotel setup for. For the regular season, it's all voluntary. That's the way to hack this. That's the way to get around having the NFL PA agreeing to separating guys from their families for four or five months. You do it on a voluntary basis, and then for some teams, it ends up being everybody's voluntary offseason workouts where everyone's going to volunteer to do it especially, if the coaches are and the key team leaders are. So that's one way. Way, to avoid you know we're concerned about players doing things. They shouldn't do going out the place. They shouldn't go to, but you could just go home and be around somebody in your house that has been out and about Andrew Whitworth. Entire family and extended family ended up with the virus because his nanny when Alpa lunch with a friend and brought it home so that you know that's the risk if these guys leave that hotel. Hotel and go home. They can pick it up from somebody in their family, bring it to the facility, but you know what? So far, the NFL is making it work and I think one of the reasons the players are very conscientious. The coaches are very conscientious. The question is, will that last deep into the regular season now? Much Florio Profootballtalk, dot, com The the ACC in sec reportedly, what WanNa push forward through this. This purge big ten, maybe not so much. Likewise, PAC twelve, I mean the lack of unanimity here. It it. I. Should Not Be Surprised I. It's like Nick. Sabin I saw this a pro football talk yesterday Nick Sabin said quote look there. They they. The players are a lot safer with us then running around at home. So it's it's percolating Ma'am it's about ready to get hot and here's the thing the argument that they're safer. Safer with us than they are on their own first of all I think it's somewhat demeaning to the players who would be smart enough to avoid catching the virus. You know I, think the average eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old is stupid reckless and selfish, and if the average like George, Carlin would say there's half of them that are even worse than that. But there's also half that are better than that and more prudent. So. It's a blanket assessment that every player is somehow being saved from the virus by playing college football. The reality is there are people with a vested interest in college football going forward, like Nick Saban, and the question becomes Paul and I'm not GonNa get too far into the weeds here. But there are reliability concerns now even though it would be virtually impossible to prove exactly how you caught the virus and proof of causation is always a key part of any type of negligence lawsuit I. Think the way the legal system is going to adapt to the inevitable cove nineteen litigation will be to say you don't. Don't have to prove down to the molecule where you've got this. If you can point to a business to an organization to some sort of private endeavor that decided to go forward in this atmosphere without appropriate safeguards in place to ensure that the virus won't spread. That's enough. We're going to presume that the chain of the molecules of the virus goes from that activity that was conducive to the spread of the virus through to the player who gets sick or dies the family member who gets sick or dies the coach who get sick or dies the staff member who gets sick or dies and I'm you. The financial impact of one last college season will be nothing in comparison to the damage long-term financially that that kind of litigation can do to university separate and apart from what the right thing to do is, what's the right thing to do? Do we WanNa be as a college organization as a Football Program as university do we want to be? Associated with the potential spread of this virus. It's one thing for the kids to go out and get it on their own. We're not part of that. We're part it when we bring them under our umbrella, I? Wonder if with the Big Ten presidents and Kevin Warren the commissioner former Vikings Chief Operating Officer I. Wonder even if we haven't heard it if it's if it's not partially true in that, they recognize we pull back now. You know maybe things calm with the virus as we get to. February. And March NFL gets done with the Super Bowl we start and we kind of are a monopoly know what I mean. Oh, it'd be like the XFL, right? Yeah, it'd be. The. Big Ten, the xfl bright spring football. The people actually care about grant to take the big ten and you drop it into February march. April people are GonNa care and people are GonNa Watch, and you're right. Maybe they say, Hey, you know what? We're going to let the SEC in the ACC guinea pigs, we'll go forward in the spring, the PAC twelve, do their thing the PAC twelve, we're the big ten. We'll be the the kings. They can play their games. What those late games kick off at like like midnight eastern time. We let them do their thing. We'll do our thing and yeah, we'll learn from the mistakes and the experiences of the SEC the ACC. Here's the thing and and and this is what I think. We can't lose sight of just because the ACC, and the SEC seem determined to go forward that doesn't mean it's going to work. They may be going straight into the iceberg. Right. The NFL has the benefit of the size, the resources and the motivation to get their games in because that's all they exist for colleges exist for much wider range of things and I. I just think there was a failure of leadership back during the months when they should have been coming up with the proper testing protocols. You Know Jim Harbaugh comes out yesterday and his touting what Michigan's doing. That's great. But that doesn't mean everybody else is doing it some of these schools they only test the kids if they show symptoms or if they are proven to have been in contact with someone who is covert nineteen. The kind of testing that that you need in order to be proactive about keeping the virus out of your building like I started doing radio and TV at the Vikings facility Monday. So I got my first Cova tests. Yesterday came back negative today I gotta do it again Thursday. So then from a semiautomatic standpoint because I feel good I. Guess. I. GotTa Sweat till Friday morning. It's just it's the the overused new norm. It's. It's just life if you're in that. That business, you know whats the turnaround, how long does it take to find out that way? It was less than twenty four hours. So it was a Q. Tip in both nostrils not super, not super intrusive. Maybe a couple of centimeters up there tickles a little bit, and then from the bio reference bit, I got the email this morning boom done. Yeah. See they're working toward the point of care testing where you can do the testing on site and get the. The result fairly quickly. There are issues with having enough reagents, the active material that tells you whether or not you're positive and you know there are a lot of people out there that want to get that quick turnaround on whether or not they're positive. But the NFL seems to be doing the best they can under the circumstances, the question becomes, what's the fallback if they do have outbreak at some point, but so far so good. We'll see what happens as things. Things move closer and closer to September ten because that's when the Texan the chiefs going, and we'll see how it all plays out I'll be on the exclusive by radio. Network. Parts, next Tuesday when I call you watching training camp. Thanks for the conversation. Great as usual. Have a good day. Bye Paul Florio P. F. T. I'll let us a couple of with Minnesota wild general manager, Bill Garin who's in studio with nine to noon around the corner. It's Paul Allen. Does. Tax. Bill Garin general manager for the Minnesota Wild welcome to the Brian. Heating. And Choline Studios will get when when you grow up this, this is like the music that you were skating too. Right. Now now. Not. What? What, what music did you enjoy? Say when you were starting your national hockey, League career. I'm a I'm a huge Bruce springsteen fan and Motley crue yeah. Holly, crew was my banner in the eighties like I. I, love MOLYCORP. Some springsteen, those. I mean I've seen it. I've seen it a million times with football players and I've never been in hockey locker room like up to a game. Do players have their headphones on with their preferred music? Getting, just getting pumped up and jacked up for the game or is given this day and age like no headphones or maybe headphones, and then just like phones, and just like flipping through stuff. I told our guys that I don't. I, don't want that. Don't want what I don't want them with their headphones on before the game and really you know it should be time to I. You know I get everybody's focusing and this and that, but you're not. Like beer around your teammates. Like. Before the game like it's, it's you know you have to talk about things communicate this, don't go into your own hole just worry. I don't know I just don't interesting I. Don't know if they do it. Normally, but I'm with you on that man. Is. Still sitting in the locker room in one of my teammates was over there with his headphones on and. Not Paying any what anybody else is saying or what anybody else like to me? That's it's kind of. I just don't believe in, I don't like. Bill. GARIN general manager for the Minnesota Wild Nice, enough to join nine to noon for a couple of segments and. Wondering. Last night, are you guys in any way still in the market for a right shot? Right wing. You know we do have a lot of We have a lot of left shots. We have left shots, play right? Wing You know to me where where it really makes a big difference Is like on the powerplay. Yeah. You know just have been able to have that right shot having multiple options for one timers and things like that. We have. You know, listen, Kevin, fiali's left shop plays right wing same, Kerala. Same same with Capris off like. They get the job done five on five, even though they're left left shots that doesn't bother me as much. It's just The power play that that. You know that it'll come and. The reason why we have so cutting gets a lot of. Yeah. I do too and he gets a lot of You know he gets you know both special teams and you know. For me, if I was the only shot, it'd be site. Well, why bring it up? Is that dumb? Not going down a weird road here with like names that potentially could be drafted or whatever. But that Jack Win with Ontario of the Oh l. look skilled and scrappy man, right? Right. Wing. If you've seen it or how much have you seen in place? I haven't seen him watch. No, I haven't seen. We got the nine spot that might be a genuine spot. Know we? Got Our people out there and the season Kinda got cut a little short too. Yeah. But No we've. You know we've interviewed him. We've We've we've talked to I. Don't know how many how many kids we've talked to for the draft. No, I have complete faith in our in our scouting department and That's what they're paid to do. That's their experts in that I'm not I. DON'T WANNA go up and I. I would have liked to have seen more of these kids And I. Actually did see him in the prospects game but. You're playing coy. No. I know what? Mister Rattler purge listening. DOT, com. Whether. He's going to give you that fifteen spot or not I, don't WanNa know I don't want to know. Too. Much to to kind of dangerous. Yeah. Let the scouts do their jobs. They're the, they're the professionals at that. That's their field. Yeah. I. Don't WanNa come in and say, well, no, I like this guy, one of only seen him once or twice. that. All right. So you get bounced out of the bubble. You know as as we get to know each other now and through the months and years and stuff like that. It's you get bounced. You come back yet your press conference yesterday, very open and honest about a lot of things very pointed about a lot of things. So like do you have to guard against emotionally sane or thinking things right now because what you just on the bubble because I, mean I i. You know I don't know who the players could be. Good or bad. But I mean, you probably came back saying that guy was bleep that guy didn't do what he needed to do. This guy was fantastic. This guy was fantastic. And I would imagine in your spot, you have to guard against emotionally making quickfire comments or decisions. Yeah. Absolutely and. It is emotional. No matter if you're playing or if you're coaching or managing whatever. You, know motions run high and and You're not happy about it when when the year ends like that and you have to remember that the the players are human beings. And their feelings and you know, but I also feel a responsibility to be to be honest and and to to tell everybody how I how I feel. I won't say everything. Obviously. 'cause we gotta keep some things You know you know top secret of, but it's it's I. It's just the way I operate and you know looking back at the bubble like that's a that's a short sample size. We have to remember that. You know we played. Games will be played before the pause six, fifty, sixty. What solely, we have to remember that part of the season to him. Megan would add the numbers like that like that. You know. What. So you you. You ended up with nine spot. Last night. Could could you could you draft today if you had to? Yes, could you really like the whole thing or the nine? Yeah. No I. Think we could. Be, I'm tripping right now once the draft early October. So we have. I think they have a date pencil then but none you know could change everything's penciled in. Yeah. In this day and age of everything it's passed by patch. You got to take spurs life patch by batch man, don't you? Yeah. I, mean. We we. Just gotTa Roll with it yeah. Bill. GARIN GM for the Minnesota Wild in studio you know and and so you get the nine that they do the the lottery with the teams that got bounced from the bubble last night wild up with nine to me. It's so crazy. The the Rangers were pushovers in the Toronto bobble got rewarded with the first overall, pick what a world. World. A great world, right? Hey, you know what it's. Like the draw. Yeah. Oh. Last one on this. If you go by the way with my Jack, Quinn Ontario Oh L. Intel a was it. Okay. I mean watching three were good video clips. Last night, right? Shot, right? Wing read three paragraphs. scrappy you like scrappy bill. Garin likes puck battles scrappy. Doesn't it? Does I'm like, Jack? Quinn, you know kind of around that spot last one on this. If you need a Centerman, maybe we circulated rumor coal. Perfetti, only will play for the wild. Called Perfetti, is he good? They're all good. Are these kids are all good? They can't all be good. They're all good. But the names mentioned I mean, I'm either hitting on pertinent names because I've put in the worst as strong draft. It is kids are all good. Nice. They are all going to play the don't know how good they'll be in the NHL, but they're all good right now and. They're all going to be in the first round. So they're good players. You you follow football at all closely. Okay. Well, Say Yeah Well I think from an an analogy standpoint bill. What I'm getting at here is something I read from your press conference. It might have been with Rousseau radio and it's like is gaining a true game changing Centerman, akin to drafting or finding a big time quarterback. I mean you Kinda. GotTa have one. You gotTa have the right one. It's apples and oranges because the quarterback had sixty five snaps and the game changing Centerman Zenon out. But you know what I mean, right? Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know what you mean and this is It's kind of like what I said in my press conferences that nobody trade, it's kind of quarterback. Nobody trades her number one quarterback. Nobody's the they just don't. You see all these quarterbacks and they stay in the same city forever and ever So. Nobody's trading their number one center the there too valuable there too hard to come by. So yeah, you usually just have to draft and You know we'll see. We'll see if centers avail. You know with with with that lottery last night, and then the draft coming up penciled in October you get the nine with grill caprice off in town that that's kind of like landing a first overall pick out of nowhere right or maybe not I. But like high pick you know Oh. Yeah. Yeah, this is Yeah, he's. It's just like an getting a first round. He's You know. He's he's. He's very good player. What with caprice off what happens with him now that he's here. He's got quarantine for for a little while and then Once, he's once he's done with that, we're just GonNa Kinda, show on the lay of the land and try to try to do things like we gotta get him at like a social security number, get him and US cell, phone. Take, him around town see maybe where we you know we he. or where we suggest he live just things like that get to know the place a little bit So so this is this is kind of step one of acclimating him dare thing around. And that that's seriously I. Mean. We say it as Americans were like social security number, a US phone you know got determine. Is it going to be acton? We're going go. Or Dinah in on. It's like in one ear out the other for a lot. Of Americans, for him, it's massive all of that, right? Yeah. I mean imagine you're twenty three years old and you go over to Moscow Yeah, and somebody's you have to figure all this stuff out because you're going to be living there. It's. It's not easy. Yeah. That that's why I've always said like. We just want to manage our expectations and like this is a young kid and we hope that this kid comes out and tears up the league. Yeah. But there are gonNA be some adjustments form. It's I mean. Hockey part will probably be the easiest. But when you have like, you know the the adjustment to the culture to being away from your family and like your country for the first time. That's going to be hard. So so I, mean, even with that, you know from an MBA standpoint man, I remember years ago. There's the Spanish kid who was like it up in. Spain, named Ricky Rubio and he was playing against adult men twenty five to thirty at eight sixteen and just running circles around them. He gets over here and everybody had heard about him for so long. It's like let's say let's see what you can do, and it probably will be like that for him here specifically with these veterans. Who are on their last deal? They're about ready to be done. Put you know wines or Longman. Gigs are hard to find. I've heard a lot about you for a long time. I've done this fifteen years. We'll see what you can do. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly and I. Say That to to college kids that are turning pro and. You know they're they're good. College players earned their contract, but they're gonNA. Play in the American Hockey League for a little while and they don't. They don't know the American. Hockey League, they don't respect it because. To be quite honest with a lot of the coaches, don't know it and they don't respect it and I said, okay, well, you got a guy that's been here been in this league for ten years. He's like you said, he's on the last year of his deal. He's got three kids at home. He'll tear your face offer loose puck. Okay, go go go get him. Yeah, and they're like So. You know and Krill. It's just it's going to be an adjustment like this is the best league in the world. These are the best players, is the best hockey players in the world that kid. That Spanish kid coming over I mean going into the NBA, it's the same. You know you're you're running circles around A. Whole Bunch of a bunch of all guys in that league and then Oh, well, there's there's Lebron James Russell Westbrook is. Dongguan Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So so You could cause nets off without with the capitals. Now when when was he ballyhooed? Was He like we touted like caprice off, he came from Russia, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's what was he like super hyped, and then like when he got here, was it a little slow for him and then he took off or what I don't. I don't remember him being super hyped Like. Around the League maybe he was in, WASHINGTON? But You know a very good player like just and it took him a little while to he. He wasn't great for you know a number of years and then he finally grew up in got used to it. I think just, and then he just took off were like reason, number eight, you have Marcus Delano a caprice off. We Got Garin picking on caprice off Felino, go get him. You know the the the unwritten part of it, round, the corner much more on the Minnesota wild hockey conversation with wild general manager of Bill Garin in the Bryant heating and Coleen Studios. It's Paul Allen it's nine to noon. Maxwell Fuller as the cash thing. The Fan and Wickson jewelers want to give you a shot to grand in your hand with our national cash contest text, the Keyword Smile Keyword Smile to two hundred, two, hundred to enter standard text message and data rates apply. And to cafe. Bell. So be like was the whole training camp, two point Oh and bubble excursion kind of just like a blur. Business and I know you WanNa win but I mean, it seems like I don't WanNa say it almost seems like it didn't happen, but it was a blur man already seems like forever ago. Yeah. But I'll tell you what it was. It was so worth it. It was. So it was awesome. Our players came back in. Honestly great shape. Great Attitudes. excited to go. And you know what they they handle the whole thing. Great. You know what they You know we're we're staying in a hotel with with five other teams and You know we're getting. The staff was complimenting our players on a pretty consistent basis on just how they carried themselves in their plate nece and things like that and Now I I honestly I'm I'm really proud of our guys I. Honestly, they're just a good good group of people and You know they played hard and. It, just didn't didn't Didn't click. So I'm analyzing any form of hockey in. August, is weird But nevertheless, just just like from an analytical looking back at it standpoint, you may not even watch these games back. Maybe we're just moving on, but like the power play when so dry in games two and three, I mean now you know outside of what coach Everson to set or some of the players you know now X. amount of hours removed from it. Any any idea why? You what No I have not analyzed them, but you know looking back to like you know game one, we played I i. think we played forty seven minutes of five on five hockey. And, and we want out three nothing and and. I thought we were just the better team that game. Then we then we get into games two and three, and I think we pay played thirty one and thirty seven minutes or five on five hockey, which is not enough for us and you get into special teams and it's kind of like. You know when you're on the power play and. You start. It's almost not good to get like a boatload of power plays in a row because if it doesn't go well, then frustration starts to set in and it kind of snowballs and then guys that aren't on the power play aren't on the bench. So they get frustrated that they're not playing and it's this this whole. You know it. Just it just Kinda gets out of control and it doesn't. It doesn't. Do you think you know? Yeah, you got all these power plays and this is great. This is great. But if you don't, if you're not doing well on the power play it can it can hurt your momentum. You're you're being GM and carrying the way you do you're in the belly of the beast, but you have to have the ten thousand foot view too. So like for for coach Jefferson. This was the first run granted of short truncated, but as the official coach. So from handling things into the first win, and then the way you handle prosperity after that, then the struggles with the power play and the way it ended just what? What are some things you learn? I saw with Dean that just may be amplified the respect you already have. Yeah, I. Mean, I think the the the adjustment said he made from game to game. were were. You, know some of the things that he did I I really liked and We, go over it beforehand. He tells me what they're going to change what they're gonNA do differently. and. When you see it working I, it's You know it makes you makes you feel good about your decision and I, you know I believe firmly believe in Dean. He's a good coach. like I said, he's got a good A good way with the players, he knows how to communicate with them but. I. Just like the I disliked the adjustment said he made that's that to me is super important because if things aren't going well even during a game, you know he'll change them. He's not stubborn. He's not just Santa's ways. He's he's open minded and I, just think now. Looking forward, he's going to have more of a runway to you know implement what? His values, his his, you know, the the small details of the game that will help us create an identity and that's you know to me I'm just looking forward to that about this. My Lord Your Bill Garin General. Manager for the wild and studio nine to noon home of a Minnesota wild hockey or one. Your one year anniversary on the job is in a week and a half. I. Mean it made you smile. But I mean like the the ever lay back and go like. Wow what a whirlwind pandemic? Yeah I was I was talking to my wife, the other day on the phone and. I was kind of Sanley. Holy, cow it a year. And Daughter in the background goes dad, you should write a book like read a book on just one year. You know it's been an adventure. But Hey, look, I've enjoyed every day at this job. Yeah. I, you know this is this is what I signed up for, and this is what I love to do. It's it's Like this has been crazy with all these different. And stuff, but it'll make hopefully. It'll make me better. You think I'm that that Zucker try. Do you think your former squad will give you the fifteenth pick or make you wait until the twenty one draft I don't know. I don't know what? With an awake, right? Yeah. An answer within a week. So do you want that big? I'm not, GONNA say Okay I. I guess. Yes. If the if you know the way you laid out the talent of the first round will let the chips fall where they may. We don't get a choice, right? So. I wanted the first pick to Doesn't that were you surprised in any way that they got bounced from the bubble? I was. I was. Because they're there they just you know anything with? Sidney. Crosby is. is possible gets. So came back to against came back. And they had a they had a full squad. They're they're they're they're great team, they really are, but I, think that was You know teams. Biggest nightmares is just running into a goalie like like Gary Price Yeah and he was excellent they the handicapping of it for people like me from afar. It was so fascinating, unique tricky because you can look at it. You know it doesn't mean it's going to be right, but I looked at average ages of teams. Okay. Because I wanted youthful exuberance with with players like let the Blackhawks. Okay. Blackhawks, we're not gonNA make the playoffs. My opinion had there been no pandemic and I never would disrespect cain tapes Keith Crawford was hurt never. But what I saw in that series against. Edmonton. From Jonathan. Tapes. With all due respect. I didn't see when I watched Blackhawks Games in early, March or February, and and you know and I like to watch blackhawks hockey because Cain Ted. Good. They're just Takia mortality. So like I'm looking for the Kirby Dachshund, the youthful nature of teams that are like Whoa. This is great. Let's go. WHOA pass. But then you got hall of Famers who are engaged and a goaltender who's house alight. It did did you gotta look at it that way to where you kind of need all of that to advance and maybe when? Yeah, absolutely you need. You need a good mix either a bland of You know you know like you said that that that youthful energy in kids that can play. And the experience and the you know the the veteran leadership in you look at Chicago and you know Taes and Kane, and Keith, there in Crawford they're arrested and they were healthy and those guys they know how to win and you know Edmonton is as good as they are in his talented. They are. They haven't. They haven't been there yet. Yeah. And those guys have been there and they know how to close and and You know. Now they're getting support from, you know guys like doc bleak so. It. Definitely. Helps is dominant Balik young as you like mission is like twenty five. Now he's. been around for a while too, and I are not that long. But I thought he'd been around longer after like seven years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Couple of quickies too close for Bill Garin, general manager for the Minnesota Wild. You. You you. You mentioned yesterday that we want to make. I want to make changes and maybe an embrace it. The right way I meant, but I mean. Now, you you look at the landscape where you are with certain contracts that are for a lot of money and still have X. amount of years, and you just look at the the scape of everything contractually and stuff like that and I mean you'd love to snap your fingers man and just like you're out, you're in, you're out, you're in, you get more money because you deserve it. You get less money because this it it just it does it frustrate you that it just doesn't work that way. Not Really, it's it's more of A. It's a little bit more of a challenge you just honestly. We have to just take a step back, analyze everything and everyone, and and we have to kind of move forward patiently, and we don't WanNa make. It's kind of like when I first got the job I don't make any knee jerk reactions and I still don't We have good players here I like our guys But you know what we we, we could be making some changes in and we just need to get better. You are, how did how did Nikos term play that with a limited opportunity? He's break. He was. He gave us exactly what we needed. We we we deny spoke about it You know after game two and. We. We just brought his name up in in. You know what? He gave a size. He gave us He gave a speed. And You know he's good. He gives us a second Centerman on that line I. I, think he has contribution was was great. I. Mean he he? He changed that line. What what, what was it like watching games? At Rogers with no fans. Specifically on the power play with nobody yelling shoot. In our games I was yelling. Yeah. Obviously it is. It so much different. It's. It's not. There's nothing like having a full building. Yeah. You know having our fans in there and just you know when you score the place roof blows off the place and it's there's no better feeling than that. Yeah. But the great thing was honestly we never as as a as a GM. You never get the chance to see that many. NHL. Games. We're watching three NHL Games a day. Yeah. So. Now, am one was on up. There I. Mean, it was range. And if you're not watching it live, then you know you're you're back at the hotel or grab one of the the TV's all over the place. You're just never not watching hockey. 'cause it was awesome. Yeah, and was awesome. I mean unless your Bill Garin general manager and you're breaking down all twelve after games and you know exactly what you're looking for. You know it's upbeat. What I'm getting at here is is I'm sure some players may have given the eighty, eight, ninety, two percent where you need one hundred percent to get to winter circle. So you. You know what you're looking for. But like from my standpoint, watching these games and and they look real I mean the level they're real. Yeah. I mean you look at our first game. You know you know Moose goes out and fights Furlan rate right off the hop like it's these guys were not messing around. They got they got into it right away and it was great. But like like the cool thing was like to be able to see other teams playing and like we're, we saw national play, I think five times in who you know, I. It's hard to watch the other team when your teams playing. Because you just focused on your guys. Like when you go and you can see it like I knew like Roman Yoshi I, I knew he was a good player. But I kept watching him watch on like. Wow, this guy's not. He's not. He's really good coach. He's unbelievable like. And then you see some guys that you thought were You probably thought they were pretty good. And, he's not that good. Yeah. Right. And then like for me I with all due respect, I never watched Columbus play Nano Columbus scrappy enough. Leno's brother and plays. They're toward the real thing, but I never liked take time to watch them, I. Mean What? A scrappy bunch Toronto series and guess what they're gonNA beat Tampa. They will beat Tampa in this first areas, mark my words. You're here I. Mean it's a it's Tampa. Oh? Right. Now. It's Dan. I don't say a word about it. You don't want to sit here. Make predictions like Stanley Cup winners and everything. Oh, it's your job. Okay. Now, last one If if you bill if you WANNA make changes, guys, you do WanNa make changes aunt. But when it comes to making changes, is it harder to negotiate if other GM's know that you really WanNa make changes? No. BECAUSE THEY WANNA make him to. Just. You know. That's awesome. You you'll find. You'll find it. Yeah. They'll find a partner out there somewhere. Yeah. So there's somebody you really like on some team. You're like that guy socks just throw him in, I'll take it, but you really love him. Yeah. That's the art of your fantastic Ma'am I I look forward to future conversation. Sorry about the bubble, best of luck in the off season. Season enjoy beautiful weather, and thanks for stopping by. Thanks for having me in La coming in into the studio. This. Great with some other time. Aaron segment. Thank you very much. Appreciate. You looked at the races. Thank you very much. Big One tonight for a yours. Truly. You know a current goaltender on your roster. It's ten, thirty, six Barmer. La Times around the corner tonight to do. Sam Farmer L. A. Times Paul Allen how are you? Doing pretty good man. I. Got I. Got Some Jefferson Airplane, some white rabbit for you. You just got back from just got back from the bay area covering the PGA in the city of San Francisco. So I don't know man I, don't know what your proclivities are went when you're not writing like have been for a quarter century for the La Times covering the NFL golf and stuff. But you know I hear I, hear that White Rabbit Song Minister are thinking about Haight and Ashbury. Right up by the hate this weekend. Yeah. It's Yeah. Pretty Weird experience talk about bizarre experiences covering the PGA. With no fans there no spectators and and Colin. more college coming down the stretch and and it's like no one to see it and it was It was surreal. But very cool in fact, and unlocking the right now like out of California. Hometown of the PGA champion right and and with harding park. Now, being a former racetrack announcer at bay meadows and Golden Gate Fields. I lived in either PACIFICA foster city. But I lived in San Francisco on the corner of hate, Broderick for three and a half years. Now harding park is that is that like the sunset district people ask me this this weekend, I couldn't remember. Yeah, it is a sunset district. SORTA wear sunset. we just stayed my wife came up to and we got an AIRBNB. Just. Sunset. On thirty seven, but it's a it's right there in the sunset district and it was very shocked in a week. You know coming from L. A. Whereas one hundred degrees come up there and it's it's just slate gray is and and cool. That was a nice change, a nice change of pace. But the weird thing is I mean. You. Your Instincts say Oh after the tournament, we're going to go out and have a nice dinner and you really can't It's everything is shutdown and so. there are a handful of restaurants that are open for take out about it. So it really changes the the feel of the city and being in San, Francisco but. Everybody's still a a really cool experience in a unique one because there were no galleries, may it could have been the tender This is Sam farmer NFL writer for the L.. A.. TIMES for a quarter century also covers golf was on site for the PGA Park in San. Francisco you mentioned column Morikawa, a whole home while kind of hometown hero angle. Here I guess went to Capitol his family lives in San Ramon about forty miles east of the city. Sam had there been fans permitted they. In my opinion, they would've vociferiously backed the northern California rising star. How did do you see it that way? I do although you know another guy who would have been backed as Jason Day The Daly City has the largest Filipino community in the US And it would and Jason Day certainly connects to the Filipino community. lost. Thirteen family members. In Typhoon, back, in twenty fourteen, I believe tragic situation including his grandmother and he's a huge. has a huge following in that area. So I, that gallery would have been sort of Split, but certainly Colin went to cal. Actually, families were locking out. Okay. where I'm from and where, George. Peyton is from but his coach Walter Chun from cal listened San Ramon and watching from there and and it was funny because when we went to the the final press conference. We'll have maybe five reporters there and everybody else is on, Zoom. Steph curry was there and Steph curry was at the tournament watching that Big Golf Fan, and so he actually asked the first question posing as reporter and and It was pretty cute and tall and Collins said. CADDY's huge fan I. saw you out there I'm not. I'm La boy at heart. So he's a Lakers fan and I, say I know it was painful for him because outsides there, giants, colors, they were saying giants bags and being a big dodger saying it was painful for him to walk around that bag but. I think he got over it. So Morikawa attended in Yada, high school in Southern, California, which that that's your Alma Mater to, right? Yes, it is. It's. It's mile as I said George Peyton. Georgia's a years younger than me locking. Ya is brothers were. Doing my best friends, and so I've known George ever. Since he was kid yeah. George George Peyton experiments right hand man with the Minnesota Vikings now is is more AQA on the fast track to fame. I really think he is I, mean he almost one in June. He won the workday in July and now you know having won a major. I was talking to gymnast yesterday about Him and he said. The. This is not a bomber. This guy who has extremely solid game from TD Green. You know he he was number one in accuracy off the tee. is putting number one and. Gained on putting He's got a very, very solid game and so often hear about you know a guy wins a major and you say, Oh, he's GonNa. Win. You know two of the next ten This. Really feels like and then he disappears. It really feels like Colin from his game to sort of mental approach. Everything is so solid. Not Fragile at all and I could definitely see him. You know we're going to have. Why in the next eleven months, we're going to have seven majors plus Olympics You gotta think that he's GonNa be in the mix at least some of those what. What do you think off the PGA Sam? What do you think? Tiger, woods, future looks like. What his what his future looks like? Yeah. Well, you know I was at the masters last year and what a stirring situation that was, but it's just hard at that age. You know I just don't think he's GonNa Catch Jack and I think that I think that at that age is just. So. Difficult. When you look at the top of the leaderboard number guys are twenty, two, twenty, three, twenty, one years, old these young stars who are arising every tournament, and it's the gap is close so You know everybody is not together and it's just going to be really tough for some somebody to break through and I. Just. Think tigers. You know it's sort of wishful thinking to think it went learn other major now. But. he's fun to watch still draws the biggest gallery I just say. I don't same where in other Major Sam farmer La Times SAM is an elite football golf and according to Bob Hagan Tennis Ma. I mean, you know so much I've been told. You know so much about tennis to some. Your nickname is bud collins, can you confirm? Can you confirm or deny? I texted Bob before now do cover Wimbledon checks Bob before I got on the radio here I said Bob Quick, give me the last live. In case. I'm asked. Right what. What what? What is it like covering Wimbledon? Oh. It's a blast and Black Bob Hagen comes out and. He is my Some say on that. He knows so much about tennis almost as much as he knows about football and he follows it. So closely, so I he is a walking encyclopedia for me, say Bob Tell me. What did I just see in Bob? Bob. Can translate everything for me and knows everyone down to the junior level. It's actually Kinda twisted. How much he space that occupies in his brain but I, you know I love it. The experience a Wimbledon is unlike any other I guess, the Masters would be the closest thing. But just being over in England and Sort of how they. Treat the the media teach you have The history you get to see happen employer is and and the players because they're all sort of independent contractors. They as opposed to cover and a team which I love covering team sports fan. For a long time but. They are generally pretty bland when you're talking to them. 'cause they're they're in line with the tennis players are all over the map and Really. Interesting. Sort sorta promote themselves, and so there are a lot of untapped stories there and. I really enjoy the whole experience. Well, yeah. I. Mean You. You can even take that back Sam to when I was at Glendora high school end of to ten. You were at locking Yada up that other weird to ten and McEnroe McEnroe was jumping. He was Johnny Mack. I mean he was he was loud and cantankerous and very polarizing on the other side of it. Yvonne Lindow was unbelievably good but super STOIC, and quiet. You know. Yeah. That's a great call I mean. It's you know I, sat down for an interview last year with John. McEnroe, and actually Bob Health set that up to ESPN. and. He was phenomenal. I mean, it was a half hour and we'll about three minutes in my wife called me on my phone, I was using my iphone to record it. And And I hit ignore or decline or whatever to up in the middle of an interview. I get out of the interview and I realized I had turned off my recorded. I had three minutes of a half hour interview. He talked about the future of this sport. Things I thought, wow, that's kinda controversial. Auditing Ma. It's a disaster. Oh I've had. Yeah. I've had a few of those where. It, just it's just horrific Zam. Since since since Bob, Hagan seems to be the common thread here time for two more. Let me outlet. Let me my my producer. Eric Norquist, is not here today. I've he's off yesterday and today. So I gotta fill in producer assisted me now Brie Brie and Queen Toddler. But I think Eric his first assignment with. With me was out at winter. Park where the Vikings practice and I had an interview set up with Adrian Peterson. So I do this twelve thirteen minute interview with Adrian, we like it ready to play it on the radio show in like his first week producing my radio show something went wrong and and he didn't record the interview. So I mean what? What an? So he he felt then kind of like what you felt with the Johnny Mack. Thing. You know. Oh, my gosh. Oh. Perio- stomach and and Bob Bob take every advantage to To kind of troll me. So. After each Wimbledon thing, you'll send a picture of me sleeping like. In My airbnb mouth open head talk back on the couch. Dead to world and flies, and he'll run caption. It says like Nobody works harder than you, Angeles Times. Seriously, cut covering tennis is exhausting I mean. Back forth back and forth I last one. And the closer we get to the NFL season, you know, I'm GonNa tap on you. Again. MIAMI. Twenty. FIVE YEARS LA TIMES NFL super, well respected. But on the NFL, do you remember that Saturday night early? January on Bourbon Street when. When, we gathered with. Bob Hagan Rob Brzezinski, and and a bunch of Vikings friends, and we had zero idea what was coming with this pandemic two and a half months later we we were. We were just excited for Vikings, saints the next day. The that feels like five years ago, and now it's. It's so it's so remarkable. But yes, of course, in fact, that's one of the last things. normal things we covered I, mean the the super bowl, the combine, and that was it, and again that feels like. So long we'll get back there. But But I just don't know win a Sam I don't care what Bob Hagan and George Payden say I I. Think you're a better rider than Scott Osler and Mike Luca, but that's And Kevin Modesto that that's just my opinion. So. We'll Jack closer to football okay. That's Great FC. Yes. Sam. Farmer. More than a quarter century. La Times at At. L. A. Times farmer via twitter NFL writer also covers golf. He was harding park in San Francisco for Colin Morikawa, and the coronation of that champion. The MINNESOTA, twins. found. The Winter Circle We will chat about that some baseball and much more with the techie around the corner. This is nine to noon. You. Off. Long. Rianne. Given. I had a Kobe tasked Mr yesterday. Yeah, and the results came back this morning. Hey nineteen screw you. Knock detected. And to do that and I have another one tomorrow. So we can make out that means, yeah. I finally for the first time two months for the first time in five months opportunity to jiggle excuse me squeeze your supple saw. It's right in front of me. Let's start and see where leads to I, well, and here's the deal it's. It's multi-faceted decky because now that. So few of had the task. Yeah. I never had it. You know and they hear about long swab terrorism and painful nolting and all that. So now you going back to twin cities orthopedics performance center where I have not been in for an half months and Monday. From two to four, I. believe there's going to be some form of stream bit that that that I'm hosting it on Fox nine and Kfi an and vikings dot com. So now you know in the nine to noon radio will be there two or three times next week exclusive Aikins, radio network. Perch socially distanced not by six feet, but by sixty yard from anybody and we're GonNa Start doing you know a vikings training camp related shows. So for all of that to happen and this by the way does not include. Just to get out there and do this stream, and then like be a mile from everybody and do my radio show and watch Viking's practice a mile away with my binoculars roster. It'd be like in the same city as the Vikings. Thank you, and I just I just need because it's you get this man because you know you specifically now that you're closer to the baseball team and you've been to spring training and you're you've been in club houses before got all weird and you get your sneaky background and all. All that it's an incredibly important time of the year for me when it comes to sharing on the radio sharing during games. Hey, nobody cares about undrafted, vanderbilt, fullback, Cari blazing game I'm telling you I just heard three really good things about him, and he's probably GonNa make the team, and if he doesn't make the team, he's GonNa get picked off the practice squad, which he did went to New Orleans ended up on Tennessee as the UPBACK for Derrick Henry. In the playoffs. So like little things like that develop. That that, you know being next to the players and coaches during the practices and watching it would not. You'll lieber knows what he's looking for. Okay. So all that most likely is ninety two and a half percent debt. That's fine. I. Need Binoculars Roster and Hail, and that's it. That's all I need right. I just want to memorize numbers, give time down and we'll start there. But even to just be there like you said with. No. No Locker Room. No face to face players AIN'T GONNA, kick your feet up Zimmer's office and learn about the defense events going to tackle on a Friday, watch it on a Sunday talk about it on a Monday all dead for now. That's cool. But the the the whole testing situation, it's like I'm having now that I put the picture of covert nineteen knocked detected from bio reference that I got my email this morning. Put. It on twitter. So now I'm getting people texting me and you rolled in and you're like I've had people here do the same thing. What's it like is a pain? Yeah. Does it take and I kind of feel like I'm in a very interesting spot. Now where it's proven, I, do not have Cova. You feel like a stronger and better night been able to taste and smell all the per. But when I was rolling over there yesterday, you know they're potentially was potentially never know followed a forty thousand to one shop, maybe ten thousand to one asymmetric terrorism. You got no idea, right? You can control that. You never know what could be a symptomatic terrorism. So you know I jumped in there did the thing the I'm I don't know outside of this you. You know what transpires that twincities orthopedics, performance center with the way they test, which was cute. Tip Swabs that get up in there. About Jiu to an APP centimeters, nasal swab bone and nasal swab, and now they tickle in the old ring. I mean, they're they're up there in in looks not great and then I gotTa tell, Ya. It's fine it early. Yeah. Because I didn't tense up or anything and the nurse was Super Bowl and then I'm like all right What's is going to be Well, there it is. Oh, that little technica and then the other side a little tickle. Don I. Well, that's good to hear. But see I'm thinking I'm wondering if like in the early stages of the purge when the tests were being administered and remember it was long swabbed terrorism that was like a sword. Yeah. When if somebody's no, yeah. That's what I'm picturing. When you said it everybody was tripping out I never hear about that anymore. So maybe that was like the medieval early stages of purge testing war, and then now we'd gone to not tickling rang I. think that's but getting q tip Swab up nostril and maybe the nurses and health care officials just needed some wraps. What I mean like first day of training camp, it's like you might fumble a couple balls under center by the Eighth Tenth Day. Bye Week, flattery week four. Smooth. It's smooth sailing, right? Well, I was asking some questions before and I was not nervous, but it was it's different. Yeah. It's the world and I got no, I don't I feel great. But the a symptom terrorism part can't control. You have no idea what's coming that was in twins camps. No, and ask the do tested positive on day one of of summer camp. Yeah, and both of them said. Said I've never I've never felt better physically, and even they both quarantines asked quarantine for twenty something days because he couldn't get to negative tests in a row rally and he came out of it. Now, he's working on in Saint Paul. In the whole time, he said I have zero symptoms I, feel great, and so it's something i. mean you can't. You can't control it. Well, the AIRING LEHMAN AIRING LEHMAN DOT com at Aaron, Glenn covers twins for the athletic. The athletic dot com twins got the money for two last night after the bad for business sweep. At Kansas City against the freaking royals without Freddie poject George Brad, and our Rabovsky unbelievable plenty of baseball during a the find lower with the techie. Gleaming via twitter salacious, scintillating, and titillating. But the the whole, all of the mental gymnastics that go into like what I did yesterday because I'd never done it cova testing man and like if it was a symptomatic and that's what it is. Okay. We'll see what's next window comeback test again, but the mental gymnastics of like I don't WanNa root for myself to have cove it in a symptomatic Basham. But fourteen days at my house with all these sporting events and the food and my laptop and I did think. As the debate about what they're going to do with school is ongoing little bit. I thought back to you know like thirteen year old Tacky. Yeah. Just wanting to play madden and eat chips and drink coke all day, and if they told me like schools on zoom now for the whole year I felt good luck trying to get thirteen minutes, sit in front of Zoom. and. Jet The guy literally would have just put zoom on and just played madden franchise mode on zoom for months at a time. Yeah. I mean I driving over there i. pull into the parking lot my things at one o'clock and get at one, two, five, two. So I got time. So I'm like, all right. Let's Take. A look at the third day racetrack schedule around the country. Woo racing starts at eleven am here and ends a shot in Hong Kong at two, am can make a real day of it. Sit around there with my left off in the TV all day and I can taste and I can smell and I have a symptomatic tear. So the mental gymnastics, of course, I'm kidding with this, the the you know, but then there wasn't even a sweat for me. You know like. So then I go to Canterbury where I get checked every single day temperature normal, you may proceed which is what I every time I go to target field which have gone to now nine games. Home and it starts back up and if you they check us just to give the door and then we we are not within two hundred feet of a player or a coach at any point. Basically, we're not getting the full nasal swab. But but it, there is a liberating side it to know whether you know you have a runny nose or you can't take your lethargic and Oh. My heavens I got grown virus amount for fourteen legitimate. You know like sugarman had the the Vikings about athletics trainer where you know in talking to him, and there were some there were buying a scary moments. But less than comfortable moments for about forty eight hours or the a symptomatic side of it. It's liberating seen walking around this workplace and the public, and later at the racetrack where I wanna get on the top of the freaking race track and just like proclaim I am king because I do not have covert and I actually have tested. You Watch is of tested. You're all guessing and guess what I can go blow on all of you and nobody is going to get covert which I can. I can blow on you right now. You'RE NOT GONNA get grown a virus. Well, I, can lick my finger and put it in your eye and you ain't GonNa get Corona virus. You can say something different anger and put it in your I, ain't gonNA give coronavirus. It's. It's I'm not detected what up well. As of yesterday. That's true. If you got it this morning, I don't want you put your finger anywhere near me. I mean been last night. It's like a reverse scarlet letter. Saying to people like I'm not a so but the problem with it is like, yeah, the the the. For your safety starts a new like it's it's it's Czechoslovakian Roulette, you spend the thing. No bullets neck. You're a media FIG. Leaving it just everyone listened to think of what he immediately went to safe. I'd like to tell everyone. I'm safe and what's the first thing I'd like to lick my finger and put it in your. I can't immediate figure you wanted to do I can. But guess what? No? No, no. Judging by me was stuff like this period let alone ain't. GonNa be no judging in the purge that that's not my job with the way I live. So for those who are fearful scares or whatever masks in cars masks jogging stay away from me, jump away from you in the in the postal at the grocery store. Okay. There's that side. Then there's the other side where it's like screw this guy screw that screw I've never wearing into a smash DC that people went to a smashmouth concert at Sturgis, but there were like ten thousand people. There are no mass and I just thought that whole sturgis thing. The way it was described to me by somebody who lives. Lives in spearfish and their family. Oh, somebody who from spearfish, their family left spearfish and got out of the state while these knuckleheads were in there. The way it was described to me or the way I look some pictures and stuff. It's a petri dish man. Yes. That's exactly what it is. It's a petri dish for negatively best to look tall y'all. I. Don't I mean I, get your super into the motorcycle culture and all that you go there. You probably all your buddies are probably all that sons of anarchy though. I mean, it is a fun culture to not be a part of and just watch. But the other thing is like slap a mask on like I've been wearing one. I've been wearing when at target field eight hours a day in the sun, it's not the greatest experience, not two point. Four on. That's not the point because these image conscious losers don't want to have the mask on right because they don't WanNa, think what people think about them. Even though guess what you're not significant enough, nobody's freaking thinking of you in the first place. It is absurd. It's a weird like badge of honor to be like, I'm just GONNA put people even if it's an insignificant amount of risk, right? Why have any risk? It's not the end of the world for mass. Yeah, I don't know. I've been wearing. You know not twenty, four seven, but but close enough, and obviously the twins experience. They've been very They've been very good. They do not want at Saint Louis Cardinals are a Miami Marlin situation or even a Texas Rangers radio broadcast the down with it and they had to be quarantined how that happen I mean there that sorry they on the road with them. No. No cap in like a week and a half ago the to not the play by play guy. But the color commentator and I think the producer got it, and so they quarantined everyone and they brought in substitute radio. They don't WanNa do that I mean the the twins are going I would say the twins are in the ninety nine, th percents terms of precaution. Would be me if that team started foreign zero and somebody got. To me, that's my nightmare, is like it whether it's actual players on the team or even if the the broadcast people and they got it and they traced it back to me, I would feel so horrible about that. And so if I have to wear a mask for an extra couple of hours away, it's no big deal, the techie, Aaron Glam, Aaron Glenn, Dot, com, the athletic the. The, athletic, Dot Com Miss Bryanne Queen House toddler God's the Great. Ship Love Covenant during the Final Hour, and here she is courtesy of wixom jewelers, good morning, and unveiled the cash thing. Good Morning. Thanks PA The fan in wixom jewelers, WanNa put grant in your hand the keyword. This hour is love text. The keyword loved one, hundred, two, hundred, standard text message and data rates apply. Home. Sipping. Imagine of. A. Facing. The table tile. His voice was rusty. As SAJJAN. Hands on the. Zozo. Nine to noon. When the DON. Come on. Dishwasher. You want that two hundred right now. Don't you? Well? Yeah. We start talking about gambling as we always do during the commercial breaks I'll take ninety five percent of the time and then I say, oh, it's good. You got these good opinions on gambling lately. You got the two hundred bucks to give me what you said Well, I hear, let's let's assume it's a racetrack day and I'm a racetrack announcer and you know so look at this money you of Tanovic, but I just want to millions. I got four fifties, right? Right. Which would be earmarked for you, right? But the championship of the MLS is back. Bubble is this evening. So technically, if like something goes dramatically amiss from now, until that championship game, right and there is no coronation of a chance off the board. Now you'd get paid, but I mean, there's got there would be a moratorium or there would be some type of like time that you would have to wait. You know before we could officially determine what the roles were of the WTA the winner take all. Well, we can wait till till next week because Nordahl also helps me two hundred and I feel like both of you giving me two hundred dollars at the same time will really be one of. Of the highlights of my life. So you can do it all at the same time. Yeah. We we will do that or plus next week. Are we gonNA do the NBA Situation? We got you don't we? Yeah. Yeah. But here's the vikings training camp next week. So now it's now excuses are star. No, not. We're going to do it. But mean, you're saying you won't have your normal level of expertise. Some I would here's the deal. Okay. In normal. Times. Yeah. techy branded as baseball guide her but car carrying member and a staple within the love covenant. I. Would Have you come to twincities orthopedics performance center for like an hour and pay. There's kirk cousins or Dalvin. Cook Look Jeff Glad Wow Look Justin Jefferson run up and down the field with that eighteen and you take it in and we would do radio. The to have you at the exclusive Vikings Radio Network Perch I would. I would have had to have started. That process of protocol read stay. Tuned, right. You'd be quarantined at TC Oh performance center, suspending our there in some broom closet. Just just like on ice so that you could do one segment. Would they slide me like a meal each day under the door? What would the situation we figure it out? Okay. What would you like to shotgun with Jack Stellar at at at the Sturgis bit when times are normal, I don I would. I, can't. Yeah. I can't think of anything worse. Honestly, what do you mean like Sturgis on a normal year? I wouldn't want to be a big Fan Sturgis at this point a great. Great, you know with the like somebody. Asked me this morning or somebody asked me this morning or last night post? potential as symptomatic terrorism, forty, thousand, one shot when you weren't certified safe. Yeah. Yeah. If it pops up, what are you GONNA do. Yeah. Packers Training Camp? Hey guys, I just want. Paul. Look. WE WE PAUL SHARES LOCATION WITH ME WHY? Why is he and Wasserman elk mound and appear and why C. at Green Bay packers training camp? Hey, rod. Medical. Games for the Vikings what's going on? Honestly may I shake your hand and maybe hit up the saints when done to just to? Keep things in line. Well, I mean you've got of the saints. All you want and you know the no, I'm saying you want to eliminate the take them off the board to we're doing that since you use that team as a reference. Yeah. It I think adequately segues into bubble gum bubble 'cause here really were now at the okay. Let's get serious. We now, we're at the ridiculous stage of MLB non bubble. Saint Louis Cardinals played by gangs. They've missed roughly fifteen games. There are teams that have played sixteen, seventeen eighteen now, and they're stuck at five k non bubble college. Football's a freaking disaster at this moment with finger pointing this commissioner socks. This president's Dom, this coaches lying what's going to happen. You know everybody just calm down Trevor Lawrence is trying to put the whole thing on his back and kind of. Of Karen, and then the president re tweets him. So like their entities around their reading in that everything I'm like why? Who Cares? Let's just let it develop see what happens. So again, non bubble and NFL non bubble knock on wood if that matters to you so far. So good yet the OPT outs. Yeah. Some some rather prominent players to opting out but now they move for work, training camp. Right around a month like like a date. Wise. A month from yesterday or actually a month from Thursday is Texans and chiefs Thursday night football along a month from Sunday Vikings and beloved BJ's team in. US Bank stadium. So they're pushing forward with that. But it's still out of bobble non bubble. You mentioned the saints. Now, I've read up on it in about five or six days. So if they didn't do this, it's going to sound dumb. The saints have rented out a spacious hotel. Okay. They have taken a hotel and it's like. Gleaming Blood Bj you plan on staying here and like touring Bourbon Street in October. You're not staying there. Right? Because the New Orleans Saints have bought this hotel for six months. Yeah, takeover. So it's not a complete. You have to be in that bubble twenty, four seven, but it is the closest thing and NFL team has done to creating a bubble and you're moving forward I. Bet you work I. Think I mean that's smart i. mean, obviously, you're depending on, it doesn't help any. Any if a bunch of players just go out at night and come back to the hotel anyway, which we just saw to. Cleveland Indians. Clovinger and police to their best pitchers just got booted out and into quarantine because they went out on the Saturday night or whatever in. CHICAGO. Together So yeah, I mean, you're still counting on some level of personal responsibility here, but I do think that's a good idea I wondered why? When, when Major League teams are now on the road? Road for three or four days at a time. They're all stay in a hotel, but it's my understanding at least in the initial series there like wedding parties at the hotel. Normal people stand at the hotel like you are putting players in a situation where they don't straight up quarantine in their room. Yeah. They are going to interact with people who are not in a bubble situation. Let's it doesn't have to be strict quarantine in room. I mean, maybe it does like the wild. Wild. Just in Edmond, Ryan. So goaltender stay locked friend of mine in contact. You know he's bored. I'm at the race track whatever I mean he was in his room and I don't know if it was mandatory like almost the whole time. Now, they had separate rooms for like games and stuff like that, and and the wild, really really handled this whole situation. You know the best you can while being respectful with it mingling with the public and lobby outside an absolute. No brasow. What road protocols are for Major, League baseball teams, but they switched it after these two. With the MARLINS and the but again, and I'm not. You know it's you know I like baseball man, it's not my favorite like it is yours. But I just don't understand when we have a second layer to techy where we joked back around fourth of July that let me get this straight the the commissioner of this leg, really surprised ups and Fedex. Planes Ed are not available over a fourth of July weekend and it stalled testing US teams like the nationals or whomever. Whomever have had their spring training delayed. I couldn't believe what I was reading, and now assuming this comes down from the Commissioner's office while Whoa Whoa Whoa on the road, we're going to be doing this and no hotel lobby bars because like NFL wise. They haven't done expert. No traveling right, but it's it's no casino. No Strip club, no restaurant. No Hoover's no lips. No gathering with the public. Yeah. You can go out and you can. You can hang with guys mask. Mask on within a certain circumference of the hotel. But here, here's the roles and I can't believe MLB with like road trips. Didn't didn't already have that place and they've they've put in some some harsher protocols following the first batch of road trips because of the Marlin situation especially now that the cardinals situation But yeah, I mean I don't think it's a stretch to say that Major League baseball was not a particularly well prepared at any point in this process and it's It's nice that they're clamping down now. Yeah, and you know it's more mask wearing even around the ballpark. Certainly in hotels, they're asking guys. You know you can be in the hotel, but don't don't go out bar hopping on the Internet. In Chicago, and the thing that's I think really egregious about the to Cleveland Indians guys doing it is Carlos Carrasco one of their rotation mates has leukemia and missed a big part of last year. He's coming back from a he's. Immune compromise, and they're like literally in the rotation with him and and they talked to big game. They posted on twitter about a please follow our lead people who? Put a mask on and follow protocol, and then they go out on one road trip and they're out on a Saturday night in Chicago and you know I get these guys are young is and they they wanNA. Do what they normally do on the road, but but you're GONNA have the rest of your life to do. Year career, you've got seven weeks left. And their manager. Terry? Francona. Is a cancer survivor. He's immune compromised. So I don't know Levin Clovinger in Xactly I think have have really rubbed. A lot of Indian fans. Even I think very bad way at this point. techy. So seriously speaking with the Saint Louis Cardinals, they start playing again today right now it's been canceled. It canceled they're supposed to play postponed that thing yesterday org and then now they're postponed and they're done darts, they're going to use them. Yeah. Guess what they're about ready to go the route of FC DALLAS NFC national. Yeah. There was a route I saw an interview with Manfred. Maybe yesterday the day before where somebody essentially said that. that. which is like how few games can you play if you're the cardinals and still be considered in the mix here for a playoff spot in like you're saying at what point do you just pull them and the problem? There is well, if you pull them than other teams are GonNa fall short of the sixty games, the cubs play them ten times or the brewers play. Then sometimes for the twin, still have two games against them at the end of the season actually in Saint. Louis, and so they seem. Seem to think at least if you can get this thing started by the end of this week and the cardinals can avoid any further breakout situations where the stall again that if they can play forty five games, even instead of sixty, you can at least sort of do it by winning percentage and make the playoffs. But I wonder like, I, say if you're another team, wouldn't you say, well, we'd rather just play forty five games. We'd rather get some days off of there in a very tough spot if you're. You're their best pitchers, Jack Flaherty cy, young caliber guy. He's just been sitting in a hotel room for fifteen days. If you want to just go out there and throw ninety, five, hundred pitches, you guys at tremendous risk, especially pitchers. But everyone else just in terms of injuries techy. You know we talk angles and stuff like that is what we do on on on or off the Mike Erin gleaming at Aaron Glenn via twitter, Aaron Gleaming Dot Com got some cool podcasting going on right now with the gate jam bonus. Gleaming. GEIC learn more about that Erin Glenn. Dot. COM But you know we we we mentioned the quarantine and the cardinals and everything, and with with the making up of Games I. It's like the One bad angle here is or you know one of several potential bad angles or opinions that I would have when handicapping it I'm not. I ain't trying to win an argument with Kevin. Kevin Warren, I'm not trying to win an argument with Rob Manfred. I'm not trying to win arguments here. I'm this is on a precedent it and it's never going to be like this again. Never ever ever. Well, no. Because even if there are bubbles stuff like this next year, they will have done it well, and they've the they will have learned from it and J to it. Yeah. So. If you. If you're in my mind moments like this are unprecedented. You're never going to see them again. You you strike, you strike the the Iron Wolcott. Our says drug to fire when it's out, whatever saw like the Phillies, they Miss Games because they got bit around somebody who got bedroom. I thought that they would come back and like our Yeta and the pitchers is. Warm. Up Stretch out hittings going to be diseased. They came back like the frigging twenty, seven, Yankee and so did the Marlins marlins terrible team right? One, five or six in a row I? Think right away. I mean, they're still so fascinating man. Yeah. I mean when you have followed angles handicapping and or sports as long as I have for more than a quarter century of working in horse racing and breaking down, you know analytics and stuff like that and trying to find the winter circle when there's something for. For. The first time in the history of the world and it's never going to be like this again, there's golden are hills and you better go get it. You just gotTa know how to get it. Right? You better go get it the more extreme the situation or like you said, the the less sort of precedent there is for the situation. Yeah. The more edge there is for someone to find one side of the other. You just have to figure out which side you WANNA be look at look at. The the line makers in the seven, zero, two in Las Vegas. Okay. The Baltimore, Orioles, suck and nobody recognizes any of their players with the exception of Techie and bonus people like that. But guess what? So the sixty piece begins well, Roxy Roxborough winemakers Las, Vegas Sports Consultants, they're gonNA lay lines like the orioles are terrible doll different. Let's see. Let's play some games and then have adjustments in stop. So that's like one example. Now, we're at a weird stage of the NBA Babo where teams have settled into spots and you've got teams fighting to like get into that eight spot, but you also have the human nature side of it where what's just say. jrue holiday, Lonzo, ball jj rhetoric and Brandon Ingram were very, very interested in winning all their games in advancing, but it takes a team to be fully interested, and then if you have reason to check out and get out of that bubble and get back to what you consider normal see, they're gonNa take it and you can see it i. mean you can see the flow of it. It's it's remarkable to follow if you know what you're looking for plus a lot of teams that are secure in a high spot. had been just benching guys from injuries like they've been. Oh, this take that game off and so it's very difficult to get a sense of, as we put our bet together for next week, which teams are legit and right teams are just sort of agree on the same place they were at the end of the season. And we will have some form of fantasy piece beginning next week, twins beat the brewers last evening when we return nonstop twins and baseball outside of outside of those getting bit or not getting bid, the first question will be. Is Randy Dob neck supposed to be the BEST STARTER IN THE MINNESOTA TWINS ROTATION? The answer is no, but is the answer being? No, a good thing. Find out next. and. Wait. Wait until them. Go tomorrow mom very well, be Julie. and. Minnesota twins techy. Aaron Glenn, twins checking, their there. There've been a couple of interesting moments where. Yours truly and. Johnny the Mouse Mickelson captain of the eighty three was at a club hockey game, most formidable club hockey team in the history of hockey. In fact, I had wild general manager Bill, Garin in Studio Ninety minutes. Between segments I was talking to the GM. I mean, he's one stand cops and bill guarantees, hockey immortality, and even he knew the depth and the prominence of the eighty-three was at a club hockey team led by Johnny the mouse medical yet. Didn't. He say we're trying to kind of build up the wild in the image of that team between segment didn't righty air? Yeah. Yeah. Because like like. Like mouse, he didn't play for wise that varsity quite honestly because he was five four and two little, but that doesn't mean he can't wear the same on the club hockey team and Garin recognizes that in the dominance and prominence of that eighty. Wise at club hockey team. So mouse and I have worked together a Canterbury for a quarter century runs the department tapping twice now randy. Had that diseased. He gave up one earned run. But it was against the white sox first weekend right? Second Game of the season and I'm like, yeah, this is great. The only game we lose I mean Kyko was okay. But he wasn't great the Dob neck bit sucks just like it did South Bronx whatever. Okay. All he does after that is one earned run in three starts. Starts total earned run average is like point? Ninety s nice. Take by me. Secondly, the timing last night remarkable. Yeah. Okay. Because we're watching the game and in the Canterbury press box mouse and I between races and I didn't even know he was at the plate because I was in my computer crafty nine to noon mouse and I are chatting baseball and I'm like What's up with that? He Rosario and that two oh eight average, my God. Seriously there goes. WHO had resigned? Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, it's just cool. When stuff like that happens. I'm rippin the crap out of somebody to mouth loose. Your next guy you're GonNa rip, that's what I want to know and I'd like to bet on them. Well, to have a big day. That's not going to be snow because I don't see that average soaring anytime soon. Well, yeah, he's the next guy. You're GONNA maybe I don't know that's the true test of your anti jinxing ability, which is you have to pick someone like you couldn't make up the timing last night, seriously eight seconds after I said what's up with resign in that too will to Oh. Wait that socks It has to be. Kappler. Doesn't it? I mean, seriously, you start the season, the way you do maxwell each is Paul and everybody's counting on you. You can play the field, you can hit, you can run your the five tool bid. Everybody loves Nice Job with that to forty two, really good job with that two, four, two. Oh, and the on base percentage. Percentage of three, twenty, four. Yeah. That's pretty good to read the slugging percentage slugging percentage of five, forty eight. What are we trying to do here? Like be the outfield version of Marc Bolanger? Seriously, what's up with Max Kepler? Okay. Three to there it is. Let's watch tonight, grand. Slam what's up with Mac Kepler predicting Grand Slam, Mexico been good him and Nelson. To, you know who doesn't batting average in the wrong decade for that. To matter. Well hitting wise. A five, forty, eight percentage percentages. Great It's probably top twenty in the League it is that you needed to be six, hundred, six, fifty or. Six fifty are gonNA. Win Mvp. I. Got You. Okay. Thousand. Six hundred something. But yeah, I, mean Nelson cruises carried lineup Kepler's been been very good. Bazaars had a few big moments, but otherwise the lineup as we talked about snow. Mitch? Garbage Hidden. You Know Oh ninety four or something like that. Yeah. They even arise has not been great so far. So yeah, I mean the lineup he tossed in the Donaldson injury, it's It's not been the same lineup we. We saw last year, but it's hard to argue with eleven and six. They've gotten much much much better. Pitching. The defense has also been improved especially since since Buxton came back. So I think the hope obviously is if you can start eleven six with the team hitting two thirty as a whole, what can you start to do when they you know they start putting together better at bats and start. Like. Even last night. Rosario it's the the grand. Slam, and then that's it for them. offensively. Year we saw somebody comes through with early grand, Slam that they start piling on runs. They get to double digits a ever hear shame Bieber I have. Justin. Burland have Zack Wheeler. All pretty good, right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there earned run averages. All lower than are all higher than Randy. DAUBNEY gotta be He's gotTa be leading baseball at ninety number one and second. Wow Trevor, Bauer the former Indian with with Cincinnati re starts with. Cincinnati three. Thousand. Nine hundred twenty innings bowers gone nineteenth of that last goal man Milwaukee Milwaukee six and eight. The looking up one and five at home. It's it's judging Roden. Home Records, sands fans loses obviously some of Zor. It's impact, but you also have the convenience factor of being home and it was up plays into it a little bit men's teams one invited home. Yeah. It is weird. I mean baseball used a little bit homefield like you said, the motions aspect of it, but most of Of Baseball's Homefield. Advantage is just having the last at bat and that hasn't changed. So it's very early a lot that that's the thing with everything about this season for someone like me who likes to take a bigger picture view, analytical view breakdown, worry about small sample sizes and all that will the whole thing's a small sample size. So normal you'd go well, Milwaukee's only six and. And Eight, they're one in five. What is that? That's only a week two weeks, but there's only going to be six seven more weeks this whole thing, and so when someone starts slow like Mitch garber normally I would say who cares he's played eleven games big deal when you're only playing sixty changes, the whole equation with that aim our chat soon. Yeah. Hope to see you next week. Week I got NBA Batman next week, we gotta do it. It'll happen. We will formulated over the weekend. We will compensate I, mean, respectfully, ask power trip bets, score it. Yeah. And congratulations on winning the winner-take-all doesn't matter how you got to that winter circle using Athletic Ryder whatever you've got the winter. So you got to the winner's circle and for that we credit. So, you'll get your money way. Aaron Glenn Aaron Gleaming Dot Com I'm Paul Allen Breath Max Bowler. Thanks everybody talked y'all soon. Bye Bye.

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"All right. Well, yoursel Miami. Marcellus Wadi that do Cirque. We'll tell you who's really the blame for the saints loss yesterday. Almost did you lose? Super Bowl fifty three. We start every day with a wit log. So what you got today? Bill Vela check put me in a clown suit Sunday, you notice throughout the NFL sees. Offensive clowns. Yesterday, inspired by the high risk wager. Clay Travis and cousin Sal placed on the New Orleans Saints. I doubled down on my season long narrative that this season. Would Mark the end of the Bella check dynasty. I think this could be the Bill Bill Belichick. Bella checks got some explaining to do. And I look at this season as Bella checks last season. I don't think they trust. Bella check one hundred percent because Bella checks on his way out. I think Bill is gonna take his five Super Bowl rings eight Super Bowl appearances and go home people will start tuning him out. I bet ten thousand dollars on my favorite NFL team. The Kansas City Chiefs today, I feel like an absolute clown. I bet against Bill Belichick important football game is the equivalent abetted against death and taxes. You can do all the right things for one hundred years, which is still going to die. The government is going to get it's money. She's linebacker d Ford lineup in the neutral. Zone on a would be game. Decided interception was as inevitable as our president tweeting something inappropriate the chiefs lost thirty seven thirty one in overtime the Bill and check dynasty did not fall. Inside. Aero hoods Arrowhead stadium. It grew stronger. The patriots are headed to their third straight Super Bowl their ninth in the Bill check era, and I look like homey to clown. Tire two thousand nineteen football season. Criticizing Bill the chick for last season's Malcolm Butler Super Bowl decision. I thought that decision. Ruined belot. I thought it would irreversibly snap the circle of trust established between Bella chick Brady. And the patriots players. I haven't been this wrong since I thought a shooting incident on the walls Vegas strip would stop to pop from putting out music to plots is the perfect reference for Belichick Bella chick is Machiavelli. The Don Kaloom Nadi death in Super Bowl. Fifty two did not stop Bill. Check from putting out a platinum performance in two thousand nineteen. The patriots are still down until the end of time. And I'm out here. Screaming hail Mary Bill Bill. Check regret running all the way through my body. AFC championship felt like a twelve gauge shoddy. Let me repent my sin. I will never speak another ill word about Bill Belichick again. He's the goat of go. Oats. He's the most powerful force in football history. More powerful the Jerry Rice Lawrence Taylor. And Tom Brady put together Bill is greater than Tom Brady. If I could only choose one, I choose Bella check stand by everything I said last week about Brady, he is the most dominant athlete of his era. He is the Michael Jordan. Muhammad Ali of his time. But Brady isn't Bill checks. Equal no way. Brady was average yesterday. He threw two picks should have thrown third. Bella check may tyreek hill and Travis Kelsey disappear. Bill check confused. Patrick Mahomes with blitzes and coverages. Bella chick is the primary reason the patriots in their nice Super Bowl in eighteen years. Bill Belichick is why feel like clown today. I joined the desk. Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson and Redskins defensive backs. Norman Marcellus I'm gonna start with your own nose back on. Clown. I'm here to Bella. Check is the greatest of the greatest the greatest, and he's more powerful and more. He's greater than Brady. Look, I'm not taking anything away from Bella. Check the great to goat. But he's in a different lane than Tom Brady. They shouldn't even be in the same race coach player, but we don't combining because we don't do TV. Here. We end this barbershop argument. Right. So who is the greater of the two is Tom Brady is Tom Brady for Sipa reasons. One. Let's isolate variables have we ever seen Tom Brady away from Bill chick. No have you ever seen? Bill Belichick Tom Brady. Yes. Oh, how did he look what out Tom Brady? I to say this. But America, they'll Bill was a losing coach. Oh, damn is that true that that by Google, no way? Bill bill. Lost more games. Anyone before Tom Brady? Oh, yes. So now, we get him with the marriage of Tom Brady and Bill to check in now. See what was the Kurt this excess? This resume is in part because he found the greatest quarterback of all time. And what he founded him is not the greatest town. He felt the greatest sheriff that any coach could ever find in terms of materializing your message every coach has a scheme every coach has a philosophy. Every coast goes out there and yells at us to white noise. But when you got the granddaddy of all sheriffs in Tom Brady who not only could ball put enforce them. Message to everyone case in point Bill tick says some to the team and like every other team there's someone in their sleeping so in their Texan so wanted or not an often whatever man I heard that before. And then Tom Brady does one of these and looks forward. It's like a Kobe Brian moment when Kobe looks at them players boys getting lie, and that's what he got Tom Brady, desks. Why he is the greatest of all time and greater didn't even his coach because he info. Sources everything that's the coacher and patriot way who what can I say? Dame to say anything then. You know, what I agree and I disagree. I think that I always say I say they need each other. They really do when you look back at Bella Bella checks career. Yes. He didn't start on ready. He was a losing coach at Cleveland. But when he got to to the patriots with an owner that really trusted him it kinda gave him the reins. Thanks change for him. It really did. He was winning with Drew Bledsoe. He wouldn't even get to the Super Bowl. But that's when he got hurt in Tom Brady stepped in. So you gotta say that with Tom Brady is made him that much better and vice versa. Tom Brady's the player. He's the guy that's out that taking his the coverage is throwing the football. Most definitely. But you still have to have that guy that coach that's making the right decision as you saw yesterday. He may tarry he'll most disappear. You know, he made Travis Kelsey almost disappeared as defensive coordinator. I mean, so they they work hand in hand great together. So like, I say, I -gree with you and I disagree. But I, you know. Hey. You had to choose one. Who would you too few starting to franchise? The franchise. I'm gonna have to say this. I got to go with the players. I'm a player. I gotta go off rated. Tell. I'm a coach can make player in a way player. Right. Exactly. Because I've seen it. We went through it is is crazy because coach can actually you can be good player. You can be a great player. You have great attributes and skills, but you're wrong. You know, what I'm saying Joe raw player, but then a coach come along. And then he gets you technique. He gets you to form breakdown of what you supposed to do. And this is how you do it. I mean, it's a sense you need that. You know what I'm saying? So don't go like handing glove. You know what I'm saying? It's like the hand the glove. But man, it's hard if you hadn't shoes walrus in. I'm a budget. Mom retracting. Well, hey, Tom because right now, he's go coup and everybody else's GD. Just being you know, some I gotta see end over somebody. Let's keep a real real Belot Schick and defense the personnel over the past twenty years has all changed and every time they get into the playoffs. They figure out a way to embarrass the other team for the most part with that defense. And and Andy Reid is a really good regular season. Coach and a really good offense of innovator. Check this. I'm not the only one where clown suit I'm wearing for Andy Reid. Bob Sutton, a bunch of people chick clown. I just happened to be the biggest clown 'cause I wasted my money and got emotional, and you go here you want with John. Spit. It thing. No. The thing about Bill Belichick. There's no doubt. He's the greatest defense coordinator we've ever seen. Now, he's elevated to become the greatest coach of all talk. But when you're talking about how does that materialize into you had the greatest dynasty of all time, you need more to just a great defense. And what is found is? I can have started Lawrence Taylor. So this respect that he asked him troops out there. And then you took that to Bruschi Willie McGuinness and all these great talents. Rodney hairs these hag is and he still has gosh to gilmore's a beast. You should know that Josh norm as well. Playing that position. Here's the thing the messaging, what is Bill the greatest quality beyond being a great d- cordinator the extraction of your talents and your abilities to maximize who you are case in point west, welcome goes, the San Diego undrafted Welker in San Diego. I remember that was no, no. Miami. If you were doing some analysis, you knew of west wokers Dawson, he gets to New England not on a defensive side of all household name. Julian Edelman now is in the conversation of hall of fame candidacy as well. He should as well. He should. So these things are happening because the extraction of talent who's making them household names. And I'll give you offense of side of play offs aside players because of Tom Brady and his greatness. I'm not on the fence with it. If you make is Tom Brady little man, you can bring anywhere very near. You got Tom breed. They're gonna have to go back. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Tell you. That's just what you do. I know why you got clown know why you feel bad. I mean, you got to place playing what happens when you go against Jag news five rings. That's most to happen. What do you ever do that? He took his guy. You know, they played a guy yesterday that he played thirty nine defensive snaps in the regular season. This kion crossing. This was some kid. Some kid wasn't even a factor. They throw him on he's one facet guy. They throw him on Tiree keel. That's Bella chick men. He would double team which. Another Bill either. I think cross may have been under the other guy was like a seventh round pick something like that. That's Bella chip. They're putting in Peter king's piece today they put in eight new offense plays at eleven AM yesterday morning and us five or six of them. That's Bella check in the coach he's created to thinking even handle that they put an. Point now 'cause preparation is the separation you get caught up in the results as you should. But what it is? Is that coacher that climate were Tom Brady sitting in this same meeting room with all these guys team meeting room and people understand you have to work as a patriot patriot way is not because the Bella tick is because of the sheriff is because the enforce given the under boss credit for the mu-? John Gotti is still the ball's not the not Sammy the bull the under balls. Tom brady's. You've got you've got you've got Bella check on defense. You got Tom Brady office. They working together. If the defense don't do the job Tom Brady has even work that much Tom Brady do his job. The gotta work that much harder. It's working hand. That's why it's so hard to pick one because they're hand in hand. I don't think this would be the same patriots football team it Bella check when them or Brady wouldn't there wouldn't be. But they are. So we gotta give credit where Credit's due right and seeing go back to your point where you'll saying they put the fast guy on tire. They will eliminate Tyree. He'll in the first place. They already saw what he was doing fields before. Like tyreek hill all the way. He's going to beat you is over the top. If you could take that away from him, and what you do. But we knew that going into it. When you just sit there and watch feel he tire he'll had a big game in a regular season game. And they came back with a strategy that put him out of this game. Let me give you. If you had a choice. Let's go to the wire then says you don't wanna go. Give me some mobs. Barksdale stringer Bill who you ride with? Barks stringer booth. See I'm different though, you know. Like that. Plus that's been a long time recant. This. No, Bella checks the table everything. Every time we go into a new team setting. It's it happens in every sport on every team. Whoever is the Don Dada as the player whoever's the one I played on team. Every team I've been with Bruce Smith and Dermot Thomas on one team in Andre Reid. Go to junior Costa say what he wants to say push it a position to do it. But who's in forcing it? And instead that enter disciplined that comes from you and then enter discipline that comes from that sheriff because after a while we're seeing great coaches before Bella tick is almighty Huckabee can't touch every single player. But Tom Brady is no no there's some players that have not been so great with Bill Ocho, Cinco built-in. Oh. Oh, it was all Belgium. He can just make a habit. Single fifty five. Pop say Tom Brady is the one that beyond the field because it's really the preparations. The separation is in those meeting rooms, that's when you gotta take seriously when you can't say anything media because Bella just going to sit there and dog curse you cut. You is also because your peers that positive peer pressure starts at the top the top. There is Tom Brady. I don't know who it is to get all that. I know exactly what Bob Robert Kraft was going to say Crafter. You say Tanya is I mean come on man, so many great owners without one single. S not completely wrong. The guy's only own the team for twenty five years. They just celebrated the anniversary twenty five years and nine Super Bowl appearances. You gotta give craff some of that cove. Absolutely. And so when Kraft is when you sitting there saying, hey, Bob Kraft, Bella check has to run that decision. We're going. We're Brady over Drew Bledsoe. Bob Kraft has got signs off on that shit me. I'm not argue what you guys, but we still gotta keep a pecking order here in Bob Kraft, Columbia love, you know, I love him. But there are a lot of great owners who give the proper resources support as still don't see the results. So that's all I'm saying. And then get out the way there's a lotta great owners what our one Lombardi trophy doing that in Kansas City, air eighty reads. 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And when you register be sure to select speak for yourself from the dropdown menu in the how did you hear about a section this lesson? No, I sent. Today on speak for yourself. We'll back some of the king junior's greatest accomplishments on August, twenty eighth nineteen sixty three okay delivered his I have a dream speech at the March on Washington, which brought his message of nonviolent resistance to the nation's capital and help facilitate the passage of the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. I welcome back with lock Wiley, Eric Dixon. Josh Norman or bat time for a big story. Let's now move to New Orleans where the Rams came back to beat the saints. See an advance to the Super Bowl yesterday, but not without some controversy late in the fourth quarter. The refs missed a what many people consider clear pass interference call in the red zone. That would have helped ice the game for the saints. Instead the Rams got the ball back tied the game then won in overtime afterward. Sean Payton address the play. And his talk with the league about what happened for that? Not to be made man, it's just hard to swallow. And then to get a phone call. We spoke initially, then I called the follow up and first thing when I got on the phone. We messed it up. Listen, it's hard job for those guys because it's happening fast. But I don't know if there was ever more obvious pass interference. Call that you know, here it is the NFC championship game. So. Tough one to swallow played a ball if I to play the ball, and it would have been a different story. But I just went straight to him and his hands go up and I hit him. I just heard to cry go crazy. This plaque got incomplete outlet. Obviously in a situation like that. Where it seemed like everybody in the world sought. That's there's a lot happening out there. And it happens very very fast. Obviously. If they were replaying pass interference or whether somebody was hit early before the ball got there. Then I'm sure that would have been reviewed today, and it would have been found that that was PI. According to the Washington Post this off season, the NFL will consider making pass interference reviewable. I disagree with this move completely. First of all, I think this is an optical illusion. When I watched the game live, my I also for the db was stupid. The ball was passed the receiver and wide. It wasn't catchable. And I was like why did he even go even make a play because the the ball was off target. Now, they show you this replay. And from the angles they show it it looks like he hitting before the ball got there. I don't believe that. I'd listen was it helmet to helmet and could they have called that absolutely pass interference. I don't buy and that's what replay is not infallible. And I think some of this is an optical illusion. Yeah. I'm with you there. Let's not expand replay for those same reasons. Imperfect beings will be the ones reviewing in replace system. So if you want to expand it is funny, we still gonna have imperfect world because. Because there's imperfect person making the value judgment on even things that are review -able, which is interesting because Bill it's been a record saying all place should be reviewable. All right. We watching the game live this DVR to go take damn long to go through an NFL game. If they get the review everything plus in the trenches would a real man live, you know. I'm saying about we got a pill the on every play we go start reviewing and not review in place. That's going to be issue in terms of time in terms of affective nece. So my my only my only two cents is say if you're going to expand replay do it with the technology, which is one of where reproach the flag as soon as the flag is thrown in that instance, someone back in New York is reviewing what that flag is. And then they buzzed that same Indus into quickest moment possible and says, yes, or no, that's it. And then you pick up the flag or you go with that other than that this whole we go into this television screen under the booth into monitor ticket forever. Forget all that don't expand it for those reasons. No. I don't think you do. I just don't I feel like if that's the case you're going to say at the holding two he got he grabbed his face. I mean, I just feel like this you or the ram Bassett. This year the ram Bassett Bassett when I saw yesterday. I saw it. I'm like that might be that should be passing affairs. But it happens so fast when they showed it on replay slowing down it looked like pass interference. It really did slowing down. But you know, how it is. I dip all that stuff happens like that super fast it just hit. And if he if he turned around and been no question, but I still think that you know, the replay you kid replay everything you just can't say well did he have his face mass? You know, did he hold him? I mean, you can't do that. That's going really slow gait. Then it takes the human element out of football. I mean, very. Accolades greatness. Do you do that trait? Have to bear this guy. I wanna defense out about 'em defense back so perspective of where I'm coming from is to worlds, and yes, it is a big call. What about when you call passing? Appears when you don't touch the guy. What about that? Yeah. But we ain't go, man. But literally that play in self. I mean, yeah, that's clearly passing appearance. He told you he did. So when you don't get a buzzer down about that and the whole world see that's a bad look for the league. So you gotta figure out a way to where if that's not a play to call. They would is because right now it looks like some fishy stuff going on. No. There's nothing fishy about what happened here in my view other that I'm telling you the referee on the spas like ball's not cats was a bad past. It was it wasn't interfering with this dudes ability to catch. He was him. Trust me on this super stressed Castano the ball when you got to get to it. They know called debt, and then they said do we call him at the helmet as like, no, we're not. How is and we're not getting in this. I don't think this is in any way trying to put LA in the Super Bowl. I don't think the referees weren't giving bad instructions they were giving the greatest trucks because up until this point they had stayed out of it. And it was a great clean relatively clean game. And I know they miss the face mask on Jerry golf at the other end. But I just don't I'm for massaging the rules, and to me allowing more contact between receiver in defend toback is direction we need to go not more pass interference. And just handing out first downs like Halloween treats that's going. That's saying. Or allowing contact and I am for have you can challenge perhaps add this to the challenge there. But just more replay more replay. Yeah. I mean watching that saints game. He looked more like the NBA playoffs didn't NFL players because like you said swallowed her whistle. They were just like, hey, go play there that I know other because you know, what you told in a regular. In be boot in the playoffs. I need to see that. Because look a foul, and I hate when we say hi levers moments aid, not our Fowley, Brooke. If you if you commit a passenger fares you committed I play I down fourth quarter. It's the same for me. So we saw means going out there all to face masks against the saints. And we saw the mean where they had a face mask is twice one time. I stepped on the head. What time they went? When the play clock was zero. And this is like. While there was a little too much for me. They did they did. But you can kind of feel the environment temperature at a game house going go at the beginning of it. When you go over and talk to shake hand and anybody, hey, we're gonna have good game. Right. We'll have a good game today. So it was like, okay. Well, let's play a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Let us get out there and get after each other as a defence a bag. I can say that in that position. We get in front of you were gonna try to interfere you because we'll ever do that fifteen yards or give you that. Where a spot foul is instead of eating touchdown food. And you gotta get liver. Our river on that's that's Sean Payton talked to about the one. We've never won with the Rams are Owen. Eight with him. We Onate we finally got a win with him. We petitioned to give him off that game because we've never won with him. So so so I mean the hit one if he if only been a bit. That would be a first and goal at the fog. Your line will one time for the Rams. They would've made you wasted time out there to rent a clock. Okay. And that is it a guarantee they ran path guarantee. Not touchdown. They it to us. They need y'all wouldn't been able to go back and score. Like you deal with one forty one ago. We wouldn't we wouldn't add the ball. Again. We would four the second all they would have wasted all the time. When y'all they would have ran the ball three times decided to get. That was good. No. Our look back on MLK day on December tenth nineteen sixty four king junior became the youngest man to win the Nobel peace prize for his leadership of nonviolent resistance to the racial prejudice. In the US. Just wanna mini reasons? We celebrate his life today. I welcome back with locking Wiley. Eric Dickerson is back, and we're joined now by FOX NFL analyst, Michael Vick. Let's return to New Orleans or the Rams got a controversial win over the saints in yesterday's NFC championship game. While a lot of the focus has been on the reps missing late pass interference. By the Rams. The saints mate's mistakes of their own surrendering thirteen point lead. The biggest playoff Li they blown in franchise history. And a couple of plays before the non call Sean Payton had a chance to milk some clock because a pass that fell incomplete. That's what I think. We're all overlooking. Everybody thinks the refs decided to game all the refs chose to say that ball was on catchable was on calling pass fares swallowed their whistle in the helmet to helmet. Sean Payton's decisions though, I down that. Inaccurate pass by drew Brees. Should've never been called run. The ball run the clock. All three all three plays should have been runs with Kamara and Ingram. Make them use up their timeout. One o'clock kick the field goal game over he went super aggressive, and it blew up in his face. Well, that's what we is. You know, grandma, always said the way you come in to where you're gonna go out, and you super aggressive going in and obviously they wanna Super Bowl by being super aggressive. Onside kick we saw advance. Because of what was that a fake punt a SU super aggressive? It's hard to turn valve off in a moments like this. And he went. He went for the throat. He went for the jugular and drew Brees don't want to enter him into Blaine conversation. But why not well, this is why because they still have football to play after chomping decision here. And drew Brees went out there and put up his worse home game performance this year. And by by actually is worse. Home playoff game performance ever for drew Brees. So wasn't drew Brees MVP early most of the season candidate out there will we saw yesterday. What happened was they still had the ball and overtime. They had about first overtime. So. I'll know when I play and you made a mistake that Phil grave, but you still have plays to make Julian incomes among to the oh my God almost Testa punt that that got overturned. Did he went out there tip? The pass got intercepted and still went out. There may plays after once you make plays or you have opportunities to make plays afterwards. I kinda minimize the blame game going before. Because that's just a part of playing football. What we don't blame the football team. But Jason agree that when he made that call throw that ball to Michael I jumped up, thank you. Thank you for throwing I'm so happy. Go get the ball got. Go get the ball. We've got. I mean, you know, sometimes Sean Payton is a is a really good coach great coach. But they get arrogant because they think that, you know, we we go show them we go show them. How smart we are another play that that they should have been ready for was the fake put that we read. I mean, we've been the pay punt on our like thirty five yard line. When I'm like, I was afraid I'm like, they wouldn't ready for that. They know we do it. We did it last time and that cost us the football game. So for sure I really believe that was one of the worst calls by throwing the football to Michael Thompson, Nike Thomas and not run the ball. That would to me seal that game. Like, you guys just said this is going to sting with Sean Payton for a long time. I mean, we thought last year's in then was bad. I mean. With the Vikings. And being that position as a coach super pair as a team you prepare for those type of situations and. If you didn't learn from what happened with Seattle in the Super Bowl a couple years ago, and we'll have a land in a couple of years ago being in the red zone. Not running the football not playing the clock. Not planning percentages. This will continue to happen. But this is as much respect as I have Sean Payton as a coach, I think he's very Intelligence Review. That was a bad decision to throw that ball on first down. And once it happened. The only thing I can say to myself as I hope this don't backfire any did. Now, you you have a controversial call it. It's leaning on and it's a relevant is relevant. It doesn't matter in that moment you make that decision to run the football milk bad clock. And then give the Rams opportunity go down to school with with the least amount of time possible. Love your point. It's like a smokescreen. Hey, don't look over here at what I did. Don't look over here at the fact drew Brees just played a poor game did early in the game. We had a chance to take control of this red of the settling for field goals. But our offense was inefficient. And then our quarterback at crunch time was accurate to Michael Thomas, and he was inaccurate on third down the trust me what contributed to that. Non call was the inaccuracy of the as if the pass is more on target there. I pass. No, I'm talking. The second the second. To the non call of the passing of France was the inaccuracy of the past. So all of this ranting and raving about the non call to me is trying to draw attention away from the fact that drew Brees and Sean Payton came up short love them both rate. Great hall of famous, but they came up short here. Yeah. Gut wrenching the type losses New Orleans last year with keenum. Yeah. And then you talk God Seattle in in the Super Bowl. You could talk about defor damn if you. Hey, it's me like gut, Richard. But the commonality income denominator of all those is football cliche. But every time we went out there. Even in your greatest games, you remember you going team beaten, and you sit you'll chest all up in your face you. So like you read into the field. And no matter who you are what you did. There are mistakes that have been made and in that all twenty two when we watching the film without the without the sound coaches saying do this dude is better that that's a mess up that could have cost us. And I think right now, we saw some glaring examples of what most football games, look like that's a bad play right there. But they still could have won that game. We saw the patriots do it. And it was in total control of the game from the from the beginning this the Rams they hung in there they fought. And that's what four quarters football is all about. But I still wish that ju- breeze would sit liberty took it upon yourself to change that player. She. She had opportunity. It was so many things that could transpire it in that moment. And it's the reason the Rams are going to the Super Bowl team. Hang around. Yeah. Let them, hey. Because they let us hanging around. I mean, we went up playing great in the first half. They couldn't hear office. Was you could tell it man, the offer them because you really couldn't hear in that state. I say we had we went in thirteen ten and half. All we don't win this game. I stay going to try to. We don't want to lose it. We don't wanna lose it. And that's exactly what happened. I think a point accurate member. Who said I think eagle plays a role in this all this hype around Shaam McVeigh, and Sean McVay as the next Sean Payton, I think some of that crap into Sean Payton, you're thinking in terms of there's a conservative way to go ahead and win this game. But you want to deliver the Dag tried to bury them try to try to instead of just taking was there and was given because because when you look at it Now, Sean McVeigh. Won the game with his fake punt early. He did undermine the whole. He is the next Sean Payton or maybe the next Bill Belichick. I think ego played a role in and I might you made the point. And I think it's indisputable. We disagreed on one thing when you said that we should have went for the touchdown the fourth and one you take the points. Take the point you take taking the bay win. Did he would conservative? We did that and week nine. We didn't take the points wind up losing because it that put us in a bad situation. We would have been up three. Instead, we're going down three and losing by ten. So you take the points. When you stay off topic Willie. Back with lots of wild. Eric genius back. We're joined now by former pro bowler, Shaun Merriman time for a big story sponsored by Volvo and the all new s sixty follow no one. Let's move to the patriots who have called their way back to the Super Bowl for the nighttime in the Brady Bill check era. It's almost hard to believe, but a year ago the story coming out of Foxboro was one of discord between the two leaders of the NFL's greatest dynasty. But this week both Bella check and Brady denied there was anything to those reports. Some of these people who never met him never talked to them. So I mean, I'm not going to get a bunch of gossip, you know, we've always gotten along great. You know, it's we've worked together for nineteen years. So had the same goals in mind for nineteen years. And you know, he's been just a great great mentor in my life. Great coach, he's taught me more than you know, anyone ever could about the game of football. And you know, I've always just loved playing. Being here and playing for him. He's the greatest coach of all time, and we just had some incredible moments together nineteen years in the same relationship. There was never rift. There was never a problem. It was never an argument. It was nothing. It was just all gossip and rumors. These guys saying Coon by every night by a campfire. I don't buy. No, I don't go hit nineteen. I it's very mature. What they're doing and saying, but in nineteen years, of course, there was a bit of a riff, but like to grown adults. They eventually saw. Hey, we're better together. And you know, what I really do love you. And we got over. Let's get over this Malcolm Butler deal, and let's go out here and try to win another Super Bowl. I give him great hat tip adults instead of growing apart. They the riff probably brought them back together and made them even stronger. That's what makes them great. They're mature and keep their eyes on the bigger picture over the long haul, but any. Relationship of nineteen years. Go have a rift to you gave them to wit lock for door hat tip. The full hat tip. You might be you might really feel that way. I hate to go to semantics, but real rift versus arguments fights disagreements are they to saying are they synonymous are. They really different. I take real riff to the point where these guys both have individual power and collective greater power real riff meetings to me that they try to execute an actual is our disagreement. That means I'm going to Bob Kraft Bellichik, you're going to Bob Kraft. We're trying to divorce each other like literally to action like that's real. I've been on real riff. I've been Doug Flutie. Rob johnson. I real riff I've seen owner till way Phillips one thing. And the next day tell them something else to the tune of we lost the game because of that Neth real rip AJ Smith now talk to mardi night, fourteen games walking down a walkway like this name speaking, that's real rich. Like, we're gonna make some happy now that that's not a real riff nineteen years. And we, you know, we've been at six months already a couple of times he looked at me. And I was. Like, all right. National love. And that's that's the that's really the ingredients of a great relationship. So hate to go semantics, but to me not rift because they didn't really make something of it. And I don't agree with it. But that's good. I agree with Marcellus whenever you're with someone for a long time. It's it's not gonna be all roses and walks on the beaches, but there's a difference between having disagreement being frustrated with someone and having something that's gonna tear you apart and they lost the Super Bowl. Jimmy Garoppolo all those different things that come up, but they both understand that they're good for each other. They both understand that they wouldn't be in the place that they're in without each other. And just like with any relationship there's certain characteristics of your partner that may get on your nerves after time. But you you respect the great things about it. And you move forward understanding that you each help each other chief your goals, I believe wherever this fire period. I don't believe that anyone will make up some of the things. It was coming out. First of all, they keep the organization so tights. Why don't they come out of it? It has to be something. Right. What Jimmy G what was was up? And he was supposed to, you know, going to stay there with organization or leaves from Wales. Bill Belichick wanted him there. That's a fat people knew that. The Tom Brady's won't come back with gonna decide to. That's that's a fact that if you want to call that riff, that's real riff. I do believe Bill. Check one thing. I do believe that he didn't speak to anyone of those reporters the same thing negative about anything himself. But when I say this woke this, I believe that players have seen what happened hurt would happen. Lock room. They seen first hand one thing. These players have wise. These wise have friends these friends have cousins, their friends they'll have. So it's out there. I'll bleed when smoke. There's fire had been something over these years that it had to come from you just don't make up things like, yeah. You know before but not from not from this organization mattress because it's their rat. So tight on that anything get out. Hold on. Respect wicker sham in his report. And the fact that you went to sources not the source strike one. Maybe even strike one and two because as you're going to these anonymous teammates as soon as you can go to Tom Brady. And here, I'm not speaking to you. Then you go to Bill Bill chick. I'm not speaking to you. Guess what you don't have the pure on dope. You don't have like, you think you have it. So now, you get into pillow talk you into guys who maybe have different motivations guys who are not in those intense moments and seeing it from afar everyone's vantage points starting to add up to a place where you like I got the complete picture instead of talking to the sources when allergy Guerrero when when that problem happened when he was to end the organization he was he made himself too comfortable that that wasn't a problem that was just made up. Oh, yeah. But Alex Guerrero doesn't mean that now Bill Belichick and Tom Brady going to have a real rift. We have a disagreement you gave him access. Now. You want to rein it back. Okay. We got a disagreement on his access, but real riff like what kind of world we live in that. We're so sick that. I can't say, yes. And no to you. And also, we've got a problem when I say, no, okay, Marcellus, all this is the single side of the room, married south. When when your partner says, I think in his own documentary that he was doing over Facebook wasn't. He the one saying that he didn't feel appreciate it wasn't. He the one. Like basically saying Bill ballot. Check Gibbs him Nola when your partner comes the US starts. I don't feel appreciate I don't care. That's a problem that will lead to some counseling if that's not address. There's a big problem. The first thing I heard on record Tom Brady, not feeling appreciate it was years before this article and years before it is real riff. It was winning took his parking spot back. It was like five six years ago. Tom Brady had it own park. Spock Tom Brady deserted parking spot. Probably first time he leaves probably last. But Tom Brady's deserve parks ended. They took it back. Now. There wasn't a real riff conversation. Real riff article written about that. But that's part of the fuel for this. Call real refire. Now, we all of a sudden have all these people talking about their situation when really all it was was a powerplay Donnie represented three of the four parties involved. Jimmy, G you represent Tom Brady. Bob Kraft in loose. Fashion. And then there's Bill bell check feeling isolated like, no all consultant about me. And then that's all that was exaggerated. If it was a real rift. Why didn't they just really beat out to the point where they're not together along the look if you're in New England, you can't be sensitive. That's just the way it is. You can't be sensitive and be there and Tom Brady. One of the great things about him is as much success and fame and all the all the things that he's had he still coach -able. He still appreciates the role that he hasn't that role allows him to be lead everybody else who's in there and with any relationship. Yeah. Are you going to get into arguments? You are are you going to have to give and take a little bit. You are. But at the end of the day when you understand that this person is what's best for you. You move on from it. And you go to the next the next thing in line, but I certainly have and I can't criticize either one of them. After that, we have this. It's. Philosophies on believe in compromise. I'm not meeting anybody halfway hidden. Woodlock Walli we're joined now by NBA insider, Christine's, let's move to the NBA. Carmelo Anthony is finally on the move being traded from Houston, this Kogyo, the trade is just money dumped mellow won't actually play for the bulls. But he could still end up with his good friend, LeBron James with a report servicing that the Lakers are still interested in finding a way to acquire. The former all star who likes this. They. Do they Carmelo Anthony? It didn't work out with Chris Paul his best friend there. Why would it work out with the Lakers? And LeBron James Carmelo makes no sense. It makes a ton of sense, whatever you wanna say about Carmelo Anthony. And a lot of people wanna point to his last two years of production declined to really just say that's who he is in totality a lot of movement. A lot of moving parts Carmelo Anthony. I still think he's a very good player in this league and very good for the Lakers situation for two reasons one he is a veteran and as young core. And LeBron James at his age is looking for guys who are ready right now in two if you look at him from the three point line, which is today's game Carmelo Anthony on this team would rank top three interns shooting in his decline like the decline years at thirty five thirty six percent shoot right now. We'll be right back. Hind the best three points. You don't Lakers, which is by percentage. Anybody fact trivia last divas? What so Carmelo Anthony because of his versatility, I'm not going to use all the decline and just say we isn't totality. I think he can really help. This team's Bessie. In the veteran mindset. I have to -gree with with lock on this one. He was in Houston. He was on a team where all he had to do was play a minimal role, and it didn't work out. It lasted what a couple of weeks before it was let go. So. Now you ask him to come onto a Los Angeles liquor squat. If you take LeBron James out this team is young is he in is Carmelo in the mindset right now that could come in. And be a veteran leader just help these young guys or is. This mindset is occupied still score give buckets. Because if that's his mindset, that's the mindset that got him out of Houston and the Lakers right now, that's not what they need. And I know LeBron James like the Lakers interest is Lakers. Or is it LeBron? That's interested in Comilla. So we know LeBron wants them over. I just don't think that's a good fit overall. That's messed up. This is messed up Houston. And okay, see if you talk about Carmelo Anthony fitting in what's in common in those two destinations the leader of both franchises. Not the same facilitator and open minded leader as LeBron James Russell Westbrook and James Hart who today's harbor now who I love who I respect as soon as Chris Paul go down hard to hang. Hey, hey goes back to what he really wants to do what he's been suppressant which is takeover. Russell Westbrook plan. Well, with Paul George we understand that. But it's a difficult process. Carmelo is taking a lot of the blame for dealing with two of the superstars whom don't necessarily like to share put them in. Lebron james. Say what you will about James Russ, but they're one elite leaders an assist every year after they get they buck, willow Broncos back you feel for the okeydokey. I understand that. I understand. They wanna get the numbers. I do do get that. But you bring Carmelo who you taking minutes away from. I think you're bigger problem is is Chris do you? Remember, Alan Iverson in Denver, and he still thought he Melania Alan Iverson from Philadelphia. And that's the problem with Carmella. Carmelo is a sober. Alan iverson. That's all the is. He still thinks he's the guy that won the national championship at Syracuse. He's still thinks he's a perennial all star. And a number one number two player. He's not of the minds. He's still thinks he's one of the ten best players in the league. And Alan Iverson to to this day probably still thinks he can go out in NBA and get forty. This is a sober. Alan Iverson, it just won't work. Man, y'all either alone. I he's going. He's going to say if he thinks if that's his mindset it won't work your, Los Angeles. I don't know that that's the case. I don't know if he really thinks he's still a tapped him. He's a good player. He should be in his league. But as a right now at this stage of his career, it's all about fit ONA e c. Eric being genius. John Mayer are bat moved to Philadelphia where despite another late season surge led by Nick foles Beagles have made it clear that Carson Wentz their starting quarterback. But yesterday reports surfaced that the locker room is in fully behind wins who was called selfish and egotistical by anonymous sources some of winces teammates jump to his defense with lane. Johnson tweeting, quote, whoever wrote that article needs to check their sources fake news. Carson has been and is our leader. And our quarterback, y'all know where to find me if you have any issues with Zach ertz, adding don't believe everything you read Carson has been nothing, but a great person great teammate and a great leader since day one our locker room stands behind him all the way, we can't wait to get back to work and be the best team. We can be in two thousand nineteen question is should Carson Wentz be worried about this? And I would say, yeah. A little bit. I think there's some truth to it. But I think it's natural. I think I read the entire article guys were upset he threw the ball to Zach too much. There's a couple of wide receivers out Sean Jeffrey, Nelson Aguilar that maybe have a little problem. He targets eckerd's. I think this is the proper pushback against Carson Wentz to try to point him in the direction. You know, why we played better with Nick foles because he does x y and z you need to do a little more of this. That's eight earlier. I don't trust articles that talked to the sources not the source strike one. Strike to is this one this whole narrative of all the teammates coming out saying man, you target Zach. So Borden, Nick foles. Did did y'all watch the games? I did here's some facts for sin of targets. That's kind of comparable to me if not the same look at that. Carson Winston iqf, foes, basically saying as at Kurtz, you're open you to ball same rate, a lot of people wanna exaggerate that maybe because of their friendship, you know, how that goes all you. I've been onto me disgruntled teams man, I'll been through civil wars cast didn't even speak to each other. And I'm like narratives start to run in different places in parts because the camps are separated. Awesome this player or you support him. Now, we haven't communication the article was well written, but I just don't buy. I buy a lot of disgruntle individuals who tried to map on what they felt to this situation. And it got taken out of context. I started with the term well respected anonymous sources well. Well, respect. In a locker room. If you really are. Then you're gonna take a young player, and you're going to take to dinner you're gonna take him somewhere, privately and say, hey, these things are coming up. I wanna make you wear of it. So that you can you can adjust and that's what well respected teammates. Do. They don't go and say that there's all this strife, the other thing is for as many players to come out as publicly as they did in support them, usually guys feel a certain way, they won't say anything at all. These guys were proactive in coming out and saying this is not the case if your boys with someone, but you may feel that it's it is true that typically those guys say nothing as opposed to come on be positive wiz Nana source. The first thing I think of is coward period. These guys that have a personal vendetta against somebody. Don't like a person in the locker room for whatever reason. This could be a guy that's on the way out the door could be leaving. Because Carson Wentz enjoying the ball on. Carson Winston do something for him or. It didn't help him stay with the team organization. We don't know what it's a non story is. But let me tell you. This non source is anonymous along if somebody really said that because they might not come out to the media might be off the record. But the guys upstairs they gonna find out who spreading these bad things around the locker room that person's going to be gone. If not already I think it's crystal clear that there's a segment of the eagles locker room that loves Nick foles. Yes, they put up a low shrine in the locker room and all that other stuff. And so there's a segment of that locker room that loves his leadership in his approach, and they're trying to push Carson Wentz that direction not doing it in the best way possible. They're young people. They're inexperienced with the media. But that's all this is to me. And I think Carson Wentz will be better for this. Not all fake news stories or not all anonymous source stories are a bad thing or lead to bad ramifications. There will be a conversation between Carson Wentz and some of his teammates this Aussies. Yeah. He could grow from it. But oh Carson Winston buy. You a shotgun for Christmas. I can get everybody about everybody. Shocker better. Be careful talking about this boy with owning up to just be careful. It's the rare occasion when these types of stories always. Time for a big story as move to the Super Bowl where the patriots in the Rams will face off next Sunday in Atlanta, the chip on Tom Brady shoulders bigger than ever with the quarterback making it clear. He's on a mission approve all the doubters wrong. But apparently even that wasn't enough to stop ram safety. John Johnson from opening his mouth about Brady. He's all the time he'd been Super Bowl nine times. So I mean, he's beatable though. So I mean, we can't go in there with the mindset of over Tom Brady. He's definitely beatable. So go in there and give them a good go. I just wouldn't have done it. I just would've left off the last. I would have never said, Tom Brady's beatable. I just talked about how great he was Tom Brady is made it clear he looks for any little slight any little doubt from his opponent. What why give him any Bill bulletin board material because it doesn't matter you your Suming that Tom Brady needs some more motivation. Then me give you a little understanding of what Tom Brady is feeling right now this. Moment motivation at capacity. So no matter what you try to add to it already fully motivated. I'm ready for this moment. And this is actually a smart play one. He gives full respect to Tom Brady. Great. But to he takes a play out of the playbook that one against Tom Brady and the patriots last year example, Malcolm Jenkins before face it Tom Brady and a Super Bowl last year says and I quote, greatest quarterback of all time. But that doesn't mean that he's unbeatable that word again, we've got a destination that we're geared to no matter who's front of us. We've got somewhere to go it worked last year top, right? He put on his pants Saint way. Everybody else. Does he like manning sitting here? Like, I gotta say it. I just do it. I'd be Tom Brady every time. I see them in the Super Bowl. So never scared man go out there and just play your game. And if you gotta talk it long as you walk it, give them nothing. I mean, I mean for me anybody that play sports beatable. So thank all he said was shitty of said it the cult McVay is probably gonna ask them. Why did you say that? But everybody's beatable. It is what it is the super. Bowl is motivation in itself enough that's enough motivation. I don't mind it. Now. John johnson. Go play will go go play. Well, this show them why you said in that interview that Tom Brady's unbeatable. I'm sure McVeigh doesn't like it. But it's not that big of a deal. Yeah. This is pretty tame. And the idea of trash talk. He recognizes how great time is. And then he recognizes that he is beatable. And I think that's important because there's a lot of time in New England where we'd face teams, and you knew you hadn't been it's just by showing up in the uniform. And there is a sense from the other team that that they were at a distinct disadvantage because of what we had done. So I like the fact that they're they're establishing. Yeah, we recognize your greatness. But it doesn't mean that it's going to continue through us love how you referenced the uniform, and we've all been there in the stretch line, especially when you're on the road and that team comes out their locker room, and there are like meant to actor beauts shoe place on the team. And you gotta be careful what you do. So every time we play the patriots you sitting there like disciplined, they're not gonna beat themselves. You play the raiders talented. They gonna beat themselves. Stay in the game. Like, we're things like that. Because they're always two scoreboards the one that shows the points and the one that shows the momentum, and what your thought process looks like don't beat yourself before you get into the game. That's why like these comments I'm gonna tell you the other reason why I don't like them because I think reveals an overconfidence from John Johnson because I think his statement is soaked in truth. He watched the tape. He saw the game Tom Brady. You know? I hope he's not watching. But he is beetle. He should have got beat last week. He should've thrown three interception. And so to me John Johnson aware of that. And that's the conversation perhaps a bit among their defensive players. Like man look at the chiefs had deforest stays on side Brady those three interceptions. Let's just don't give it to them the way the chiefs did and we'll be fine here. A bit of overconfidence. I think from the real question here. Are you a person that believes in one hundred and ten percent because I do believe it? And that's. Doll every time you out there you fully motivated, you're trying to the incentives to grant for you to sit. There say, oh, you said this. So now is time to really prepared you, really. Yeah. I mean to me any you should always look at anybody. You're going to get your competing against inflow up instead of in all of and so always look at them in flower instead of all up because if you look at them in all of your going to be intimidated, the first thing he does is going to mess up your psyche. So I don't mind it at all you just have to live by that anytime you compete. I'm looking at you instead of. Joined now by NBA champion. Anyhow, let's move to college basketball. We're Jay Z was courtside to watch Dianne Williamson last night. Oh, the Duke star didn't disappoint shoot a perfect nine for nine from the field in the first half before finishing with twenty five point seven boards and seven assists in an easy. Win over pit the hype around Zahn coming into this season was massive. And he continues to live up to a game after game. I think the guys can't miss. I think he's the next iteration of Charles Barkley. I think that. He will adapt to the NBA very quickly. And then I think four or five years in could be the best player in the NBA. How much they're even though there's always anxiety. When you talk about bully ball players like with that type of body using a lot of their Bruce transience players their age, but not as developed as them because when you get into the NBA is it takes strength beyond the weight room. And you gotta have your man bones. But Zion Williamson really silences that exiled when you look at his foot work, and you look at what he can do outside even the painted area. So I say he's can't miss. He may not be the number one overall pick because his teammate RJ Barrett is next level as well. But can't miss I'm with you. We lock on this. I really would you guys with that can't miss as far as the things that I see translate us hit on his foot work that's going to translate to the next level his strength. That's going to translate and his athletic ability. A lot of the majority of shots are coming into the paint. Real. Close right there in a restricted area. But he can work on his game. But the thing that is a question for me is he's to eighty right now. Right. When you get older you naturally put on weight. So if he nationally put on weight, where's he going go to three hundred he's going to have to try to share some this way. Because the way he plays at three hundred pounds. I don't think is joins will be or two eighty continuous pounding on them joins at that weight. I think is not going to be good for him moving forward. But he's going to be able to get his jump shot off when he wants to because he's gonna work on that. Because he's so strong. He's he's going to be quicker than the guys that are Garnham end. He's going to be stronger than anybody that you try to switch on this quicker than him. So I think it's gonna it's gonna work out. And I think you have to he's going to be a top three pick. My pick dough from that team. I like Cam reddish because shooting is where NBA is going right now. And I think he's their best shooter. Let me why disagree with you. Why he's a number one picking why think he'll be special that people aren't talking about. He plays the game with a passion and a joy. Oy that I think is uncommon. I think a lot of guys love the game of basketball but play because they're really good at it. I think this dude has that little extra it quality factor. An energy zest for the game that I think will make a difference. And I think it'll get the weight off of him probably not in this first year. But I think by his second third year in the NBA he will play to sixty and he'll be just fine. Well, I agree with that that he'll play he could still lose. But really lose any strength. If he loses his way, that's one question. I wonder is he going to gang quickness. And maybe a little bit of its strengths give and take. I don't think you'll be able to do both gang quickness and gang strength at the same time. Why he's losing weight? You know, especially he's been he's been used to playing at this wait forever. So he is infectious though, the way he plays everybody feeds off of him. And it doesn't necessarily have to be one of his monster. Crazy three sixty dunks. It's blocked shots. He's feed. And I mean this kid can play basketball. All that's the thing. He's just a frequent nature as far as his body. We never seen anything like this. Yeah. I think Instagram agrees both of y'all two million followers and growing that means he's captivating. That means he's box office. You gotta respect a guy like that. Going through the process, we did, you know from high school to college and you're trying to work out. But it's a different. It's a different program. Like, no matter how much you worked out in college. It's a lot more effort a lot more programming, but it's not necessarily precision. It's not necessarily the best thing for you. You get to the NBA. You get the NFL. They're looking at you. And they're gonna work on that body. And if he takes his seriously looks like he does he's going to be able to shed that way. Because a lot of that is just Pizza Hut. Downstairs in the dorm and stuff like that AB fat baby lifestyle family teenage. Yeah. So he's don't eat better have more money and take more focus on his body. I think he's going to he said something else. Interesting last night. According to the sporting news some other places Zion. Williamson talking about Jay z and after the game and how excited he was that Jay z was at the game. He called Jay z the goat of rappers. And I assume that YouTube would have an opinion on that. Agree with Zaylon bear with us audience. I'm just sorry. These I know Marcellus Eddie beer from the bay. I know y'all got an opinion Jay z to go out. I mean for longevity consistent excellence year. But it's kind of like the Kobe argument when you say that Kobe's the goat. Our last say is what year was Koby the best player in NBA. And it wasn't a shared experience. What year was Jay Z's best rapper? And there was no question that he was and I'm like, good luck finding that year. And if you do how long did that last? So for me, it's weird. It's logically. How you to go? But you never been the number one by consistently. So I'm kinda with you. I'm with all of these now to go. Well, we we kinda from the old school. We come from the same cloth. When we come when we come down to the hip hop game. But from this perspective, you can call him to go. There's not been anybody in the rap game has done what he has done as far as on. Onstage and offstage phase would do say the title all the money's made movement close to be now a billion, and that's all from hip hop. So if you look at it in that perspective, take that lane. He has to be the go as far as the best rapper to come out and do the best with his platform. Daddy, had they make the most of his opportunities. Holy disagree. What rapper wise who made more money, JJ, greatest, all encompassing. Have you ever was a billionaire? Okay. But he. For for do. So don't say, I say judge dre is the greatest producer of all time. So he's on that all this Jay Z have a better album than the chronic note. But if they're chronic not, Dr dre, Dr jury presents chronic would snoop would everybody corrupt RV eggs as like good Lord. It wasn't like it was like hold it down by myself. Jay z has done that with you. If you wanna say all easy turns water in the wine. Man, anybody. He touches goes triple right, quite all, right. Right. Freudian slip. You got caught there. For me. He's not my favorite rapper. That's Andre treat thousand or Jerry crow is cube rock him. But yeah book we got. We got snow. We had opera deuces put together a list of the greatest rappers of all time. Yeah. And they need to be slapped. Man. Oh as not on this list guy, you need to be on that list. Conyers need to be on this list. Not on this list. And can we please take on? Joya? Snag minority may. You know, what's not smart job boards that send you candidates that aren't qualified for the role you posted or send you a mile high stack of resumes to sort through. But you know, what is smart going to ZipRecruiter dot com slash speak to hire the right person. Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter finds qualified candidates for you. 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Hey, let's go with everybody's favorite diva and Tonio Brown who despite all the year end drum with the Steelers seems to be living his best life right now. At the spend the five hundred thousand watch to goat rings five cared earrings diamond chain, I know Twitter tore apart. When people question is decision and comparing them to the likes of Mike Tyson, saying he'll end up broke, y'all. Cool AB, drip. I like, I'm okay. The youngest one year. I'm not gonna play old man because I used to be young and dumb. And I remember I think it was nineteen ninety four ninety five. I got my first job in six figures. Yeah. And I went I'm bought me a bit goal chain had a customer said the lead. Literally, the leeann I. Yeah. Instead the league from black news made six figures legally. Work. More than chain twice. Yes. S and came find now this was nineteen again. It's nine hundred ninety four I've been young and dumb and blowing money. They're young. No moto. Yeah. No, no. That's still, but he'd already he's still going this third contract. You do that on your second your first big one yet? Well, I I'm what you would like I am not gonna sit there and talk about high. I used to flaws to the best level. I did everything ABD except there was no social media. So one people out there, you didn't know exactly what I had less. You around me. But I remember one time I was out Rolls Royce. Right. Me rolls. Royce had one with me about go. Find another friend. We do this. Right. Good night. Tonight. My homeboy interleague was in a cab with three other friends. And I was like, wait a minute. That's the moment. It hit me. I'm like, I am doing too much. He went and he got three piece. What no more trying to get the three. Him in the cab. I mean for me, I don't mind it. Everybody's gonna have fun. The jury for me. That's never been a part of who. I I've never really worn it, but I'm not spending five hundred thousand dollars on a watch. I don't care how much money I have. And then put it on social media as you're seeing come rob me, bro. Come get me Lawson. I never I'm like you. I was never big on jewelry and stuff like that. But I big on count other people's bread either. And how they want to spend their money. So if he wants to spend his bread like that and do it in hopefully, he has everything set up to where it's not gonna hurt him later in the long run it. I mean, if that makes you happy then go ahead and do it. I will just be clear yard young and dumb the keyword. I used to be young. But it's not a smart thing to do. No. It's not. Grow. I used to have a third got one. And I'll even watch it. Evolve. He's thirty. I don't this is what it is. What he is who he is. I agree with that. I Don L what's next. All right, man. Baseball hall of fame voting came in yesterday. And there's no surprise. Mario Rivera made it in. Let's listen. Making phone call. Remember what I just? Another. Let him get it out. Let's go. Probably the first person to be unanimously voted here. I'm not surprised. Yeah. I am surprised because there's so many guys that should have been unanimous, Ricky hinders, man, you got him all this. That's my. John. And so when I hear the top thirty forty baseball players of all time Mara great player deserves to be in the hall of fame greatest reliever perhaps of all time, but the first unanimous out of savior for somebody better. But in that list, and we all have the list, we heard it who had a greater reputation and less competition at the position in terms of being the closer. Like, I think that's what put them over the hump is just like, okay. What did you talk about position players there this this this guy, and then what was his reputation a lot of guys came out with their own flaws, or whatever you wanna look at it. So maybe he was just a perfect perfect person for the perfect. He was Mike Tyson when he was knocking everybody everybody. No he come into game. It's over. Yeah. Yeah. Lights out trust. But the thing is too is not only he was lights out on the field. He was just a great person off the field. And I think dealing with the media that also Bose will for you moving forward. If you're gonna give voted into hall of fame as you treat everybody to right way, they owe your. Yeah. You play in New York. They're gonna go ahead and put a check buys name for show. All right. Dr L what's next sticking with the hall of fame topic? We're for the seventh straight year, very bombs not voting in. He reached sixty percent of votes for the first time. But still short of the seventy five percents needs to get in social made. It was livid about the decision saying that it was a total joke that arly the greatest baseball player of all time. Still wasn't in the hall of fame. Barstool sports without this long list of mazing stats from bonds that to me makes a pretty Irish that he should have been voted in his those keep going up every year guys close to getting there. It's got three years left to do it. And he goes to the veterans committee where he may not have a shot of our senior committee where he may not have shot. I think they're gonna let him in on the tenth time. I think when it comes down to is last and final shot. He's going to get seventy five percent of the vote. Did you ever feel the test? No. So that's I mean, look, we guess all day. We you look the part you played and a lot of people say, even if he did take steroids his body of work before the steroids was taking he already was a hall of Famer. So in that, I think they're gonna make them. Wait, send a message to everybody, especially the new prospects. Like, hey, we're not allowing this but get him in. He deserves to me. It's a damn shame really to be honest with you. When berry bond seem like he was either hitting a home run or getting walked when I was watching a home run or get walked in Utah. We just unanimous. He should have been that guy because he was by far and away the best player in baseball. It wasn't even close. And you know, the thing is is they talk about the steroid use. Right. And he he was never caught a tested positive. We know that he used it or whatever. But. The pills only to giving them. They're able to instead of getting out taking out the six seventy able to complete games. They got a little bit more being on curveball their arm. It's never bad that velocity on fastball. Staying the same throughout the duration of the game. You still gotta hit that baseball. And that's a damn hard thing to do. Let's be clear though, Roger Clemens is in the hall of fame either. And he certainly deserves it. Here's what I always say TJ, Eddie Antija Marcellus before steroids. Berry bombs was on pays year. Yes. A hall of fame. And we look the other way, and he was like automating, I'm letting Sammy Sosa Mark McGwire and everybody do this. And so he said, you know, what I'll do it too. Steroids for the hand eye coordination. Okay. That's how you know. You took him. People always say that Leanne walks and Homer magic. I lease. Rob Parker was on the heard not too long ago in the had a lot to say about the patriots. So they decide to clapback on Twitter page Segye. Listen, this is about independence day for NFL America, the reign of terra will finally be over direction Grady under center, a gift Burke at runs left. For the worst nightmares pack. What if they do in? I think moving to Mexico. You light at the patriots of the cloud back on this one. I love it both ways at Rob's having fun. The patriots are having fun, right? Remember, it's the game. I liked this kind of smacktalk. I love it too. Man. I'm gonna lie. I was a little jelly belly too. I'm not gonna make really believe. But if I'm wrong come give me baby. Offline for me as rob you need help moving to Mexico man of God. It's all it's all in good find the patriot fans. They brutal, bro. I just got on social media. And I'm talking about when I man they don't play. Nick. Yeah. This was all fun. Rob is a good sport with it. And if you able to dishes, you'd be able to take it back, and that's what they're doing. So you have no problem without they more organizations should do that. If they see guys talking about should've troll guys. I think that'd be a good way to have more of. Yes. A lot more. We media and sport Rancho you build that relationship chiefs. Did it to Colin cowherd? Somebody did Stephen a Smith with he you know, somebody harder. I'm Jason Whitlock. He's Marcellus Wiley time to put on our thinking cats TJ who's on and Eric Mangini are here as well. As you all know, I'm a journalist, and we've got our resident Ivy league Columbia's, very own Marcellus Wiley. Yes. All right. We it's time to go deeper into a sports issue today. We'll do that here in the thinking cap, but first let's bring out Marcellus this special cap. Oh L. Yes. Thank you. And how when is that Oregon state thirty for thirty. Anybody? Ever do. I gotta do. That's moved to Kansas City. Chiefs fans are still reeling from nother crushing playoff loss after pages. One without Patrick Mahomes, ever taking the field in overtime. Some people started calling for a change to the overtime rules that require both teams to get the ball. While Andy Reed says he supports the Kurd rule. Mahomes is agent Lee Steinberg sounded different. Tune tweeting quote absurdity that to NFL teams play a game for the right to the Super Bowl to fight to a tie. The vagaries of a lot of OT coin flip then grants to only one team the opportunity to score at TV and win without the other team touching the ball least armor good friend of mine of known lease nineteen ninety with lease wrong. Here. There's not a damn thing wrong with the NFL's overtime system. That's all I'm gonna say for now. Most someone who has a problem with the OT. What's your here? At least Oliver my former agent as well. So I got then beloved for leeann once again, we're in a court the NFL rule right here as I quote states, no more than one Tim and appear will follow it three minute emission each team must possess or have the opportunity to possess the ball. Each team. Right. So our team is made up of what three units offense defense special teams the way to the rule is right now the way that the system has been implemented. You're only giving two thirds of that team in tune. If you go down escort us down. You have the special teams kick the ball off special teams. And then New England says, hey, we got our offense out there in case our defense out there. There's one of the unit from both sides that in even tested the field. So if you think about it, why is it a two-thirds equation? How come you won't let the entire team in all three units? Get an opportunity to dictate what this outcome's going to be. How did you get to this place in sixty minutes? Regulation you lead all units play you units go out there and show that this is what the outcome's going to be. Then you get into the moment of truth. And you say, well, we'll just slice one third of that unit away. And see what it is equivalent in. My brain is watching a boxing match for. Twelve rounds. And it's a drawl and someone was like, no, we're not going home until we figure out who is going to win this fight. So they have a thirteenth round you like, oh and then to refuse in the middle says, but you can't throw your best punch. They just went up to Casey you sit in the thirteenth round. You can't put your offense in the NFL MVP out there on the field to me. It's absurd. We're on the wrong side of history. If we continue with this rule, I like it how it is. If you New England had ninety four plays in that game ninety four you got forty five guys at Souda in essence, they would've played two games worth the snaps in one game had Kansas City got the ball and going down the field and scored it's not enough bodies. There's the league is moved towards health and safety. This is going backwards. Now Kansas City had an opportunity you gotta stop New England. And it's gotta stop them. You got us. That's not Kansas City. You have to stop them. There's they're Vince. It's one of those things where if I'm a Kansas City fan. I want the rule change just offer this game. I would like that. It's not a bad deal fan, but health and safety reasons. Stop and Kansas City, you get the ball back. If not it is what it is. I'm fine with the way it is during the regular season. I appreciate the health and safety aspect, but in the postseason there is no ten minute period. They're gonna play until the games decided. So I think in the postseason giving each team and opportunity possess. The ball would be a more equitable way to do it. And I don't think anybody would would argue for health and safety in that situation. You don't think that he's aimed the following week would be at it advantageous for the team that won that game in crude snaps win it and regulation. That's the that's my point to the cheese. But I'm saying if each team has a chance because the OT is going to go until it's decided in the postseason that's a difference from the regular season. So I'm fine with there being a difference of everybody gets a chance at least once. Have the ball. If it gets intercepted on the first possession goes back. To get the ball. Stop him on defense, and they would have gotten the ball. That's the game Marseille their game. And look what do you make an amendment to the rue as coaches pointed out, no more than a one ten minute period in a regular season. Oh, but you amend that part what finish a mint in it. Why did you have the east team can possess the ball? But you don't let each unit possess the ball to me. If you're going to start abbreviating it go all the way with our sellers and Ross Tucker, the NFL network, very smart guy, very competent down NFL haven't been able to double check this. But he says. The coin flip winner wins. Fifty two percent of the time. There's a two percent difference. And we need to change the rule because to there's a two percent advantage to winning the coin flip. Yeah. Because you have a number one offense in the number thirty one defense, and the reason you're at it's not their fault. I'm not saying that you change the rule because the Kansas City, I say you change the rule because this team was not multifaceted in terms of his dominance. It was led by off if they changed the role and they're going to have to expand rosters. It's hard. It's hard to play that many snaps with forty five guys. Look if you tap out in ninety four you tapped out of ninety four, but if we gotta go one await we go on one away like I'm not going to sit there and say health and safety in the playoffs do or die. I'm doing or where dead. I know that we're using this example because it's Casey's office, and it's the NFL MVP on the sideline. But I don't care. What team it is? We brought this entire all three units this entire team. And then you're just gonna get you a blade say slice. We only want you guys to dictate the outcome. When all of you guys are the reason why we're in overtime in the first bright in that one third of the two-thirds as you've reference had stepped up and stopped it then the other three thirds of the team got fail. The man. Third third. All right, y'all know is right. It'd be interesting to see if anybody would be mad. If Ken citied won the toss and walk down and scored like with there'd be the same level of outrage joy of this oil. And. Because you saw the best like you don't want the best the Super Bowl is about. What's the best team? And then you want to see the best opponents two teams fighting for. You wanna see the best representation we didn't see Kansas City represented self to the fullest into its best because of the rule that is archaic in this moment any had two hundred eighty some yards and tire game to England had over five hundred. So New England was the better team and Andy Reid sinned. I you can blame the NFL all you want. But any restarted the game throwing his defense out on the field by choice. Not in the do. It won the coin toss and sent his worst unit out onto the field and the patriots for nine eight nine minutes stuff that down their throat took a thirteen percent of the game set the tone for a nightmare scenario. And now I'm supposed to the rules are stated well before the game ever took. If it goes overtime the team scores attests down I wins. We knew going in. In what the deal was. Yes. And so just because we don't like the outcome and Patrick Mahomes didn't get the plan over to love the cheese. Love pets homes that damn defense needed to make a stop hold onto a field goal then their offense gets to play it's called complementary football. But where were you at two thousand nine two thousand ten when the rule was changed? So this rule like there was a moment where we saw took rule. We saw in the game. And we're like I didn't think it needed. We're like, wait a minute. That's not right. They just went down and kick a field goal. Drove forty yards kicked feel going to games over. So we changed the rue. I'm saying there are moments in time where you use it to actually implement something new, and this is the moment. Nobody's complaining about the way. The New Orleans game worked out. Got it. Both ways it worked out fine in that game. And really there is some Justice in New Orleans getting the ball. I if it's fifty two percent fifty five percent. He'd say, okay. They had the blown call. But now they got the extra opportunity to go down and win the game without giving the Rams a chance. It's I'm fine with in the postseason. Make sure that everybody has one possess -able. I don't think it's a health and safety issue at that point. I think there's a lot of other health and safety things that you can do during the regular season to offset a lot of. Because it's the playoff game. Why why it's not that? It's not that. It doesn't matter. It's an outcome has to be determined. So because an outcome has to be determined. You can't be limited in the same ways. All those forties and young the NFL overtime used to be about sudden death that used to be the big thing sudden debt, and so they're trying to preserve sudden death that on any given play. This game can end in overtime a team scores a touchdown on their opening possession. It sudden death. That's what used to be promoted. It used to be a big deal. They're trying to preserve that that in overtime. Every freaking play matters. Whether this team goes down score because again team down score tests there. Now the other team goes down score tests down you make them go for to make them everybody kicking fifty are Phil like what is it? You know, what it is is like you guys are in the draw, and we wanna see this fight. But you can't though your best. And that's what happened Tokay. See you can't win and fight New England through its best ponds Tom Brady. In that offense out there and not came to city out in regulation and again in overtime. Big story. Let's move to Pittsburgh where looks like this team is maybe softening their stance about Antonio Brown. Couple of weeks ago owner art Rooney said it was hard to envision Brown being back with the team. But now Rooney says they'd have to sit down and figure some things out. Meanwhile, his teammate Browns teammate marquees pouncey says Brown and big bins should be able to set set aside their differences. You can't tell me a phone conversation sitting can't get things, right, man. They're the best do of. Still thought to have a famous play with each other. And did so much to do. I just don't understand what all the teen isn't me. So all right. It could be just a coincidence. But this morning Brown tweeted quote open for business. Yes. I don't know that sounds like he's opened to leaving. Or I I'm not sure. But look, I'm of the opinion they need to be open to moving on from Antonio Brown. He in big been, I think if this point of all in water, and I hear Markey's pouncey putting some pressure in my opinion on big been to make peace here. And maybe the organization wants to make peace so that will enhance Antonio Brown's trade value because they know everybody knows what are getting rid of him. He has less trade value if they can create the belief that you know, we're going to try to retain him. His value goes up. When you're with someone you're in that tug of war. Remind yourself while you're holding the rope in the first place, and I think a lot of times arguments, we get caught up in the wind and the loss of the argument. And forgetting why the hell my even go as you learn this and counseling. All right. Pittsburgh. Fox job. You're right about reality. I think that's what's going on here. Like, they finally took a step back in the motion started to to go away. And you start to see a little clearer of the picture and you start to realize this is Antonio Brown. They don't grow on trees every day every decade like in Tonio Brown is amazing. So yeah, he's a nag as hard to deal with. Yeah. He missed games J missed the game we needed. She's so fine. Now, you know you ever. Look at that picture jam. She led you wonder how does she look since two thousand and ten let's find his girl list since two thousand ten and Tonio. Braille what's the ones over there? Doing in terms of. Oh, you're first in receptions. I receiving yards. And I and touchdowns all receivers since you've got the league. That's fine. They put headaches up there. He's. Hey, what do behind OB? Jay. We'll do. We'll point is. I think they're coming to the realization. And to the understanding that we shouldn't let this go unless we exhaust all options. Smart play. I mean for me is is the toothpaste outta the tube already. You can't put it back in in my opinion. They need to move on. Because it's too much. Animosity is way too much. You look at the clip when they showed them praxis. Everybody has jersey in shoulder pads on he got his sweater on yellow and white with eight and a folk he was only one dress like that. And it's because of who he is and coaches kinda let you get away with certain things when you are that dude, but two AB has all the power if he wants to go back to Pittsburgh. He's going to be a Pittsburgh if he wants to leave Pittsburgh, he's he pretty much can do what he wants to do. Because penalty knows how good he is. He is ability is second to none. But I just don't believe him being. Can make this work once being when they lost Denver said, I should have thrown off balls juju that was it. Then you come out, Chris. I don't think you can rectify that. I don't think you can men that fence in to open for business to me is like I'm man, I gotta get outta here. Man. I think Levy mbelle learned that the orbit or showed us that the organization has the power and as much as Antonio may think he has the power he doesn't control whether he goes or doesn't go. Now that being said, there's always this this equation that you do how productive guy and how headache is as long as it's productive is here in the headaches are here, you move on with them you deal with those things. But once that starts to come back on coach Banco production and personality personality gets above it late night, the late Ted Marchibroda nicest human beings, the world sat in front of the team said, look we're going to use you till we can find some way to get rid of you. And he tell the guys who were problems that that that's what was going to happen. He did it in the nicest possible way, and that's the equation. But at the end of the day, these two guys are good for each other. And and hopefully, they can sit down over dinner or something and like Marcella said get to what is the issue. What's the core of this issue? And how can we solve it because they work well together on the field. See I think it's gotta be bigger than just been Brown. And what is the issue if I'm the Steelers I'm asking what's the issue with my team? I have more talent than the New England Patriots. I'm not having this much postseason success as the New England Patriots. What is the difference between us to? And I think Antonio Brown is that the foundation of what's the difference between these two and its reliability. It's can't it be big being. Came big, Mick. But again, the organization has already said we're going to give Big Ben a new contract and extend they're committed to big bend. And so now the question becomes because big Ben's argument is and I don't know who's right is like, oh, I don't get to operate. Like Tom Brady. Does Tom Brady gets basically dictate to the wide receivers and to the offense. This is what we're doing. And he's not question. I quit. I question Antonio Brown and any kind of way he flies off the handle. He skips practices. He's not as reliable, and maybe he juju Shusha Smith. He's gets upset if I feed him the ball too, much, maybe removing Antonio Brown and put in a different receiver in there and elevating ju to the number one. Maybe that's a better solution for the Stephen. I don't wanna waste this moment. We got a man here in New England one three championships with them. Just just in contrast. What's the difference between New England and? Their success in that system, and everything the culture, and what you're seeing a very talented Pittsburgh's team, that's underachieving. First of all Tom Brady doesn't call anybody out. I mean, of course, as nineteen years. How many times have you ever heard and say, hey, this rivalry no publicly publicly he does. And look Tom Brady is inherently coach will no matter and everybody in that room is under you all operate the same. You are all exposed to the same level of coaching the same level of scrutiny and to Tom's credit with success with fame with money with all the things he has he takes that coaching. And there's a self a selflessness that that permeates the team where you're going to do your job, and you're gonna you're gonna make sure that you do it as well as you possibly can regardless of your stats. So if that means you're a box safety, and you've got to play cover to you gotta play the part of the field. That's what you do. And you accept it for the greater good. And in terms of personalities have been personalities in New England. Yeah. But there there's they're sprinkled in and the locker room is strong enough. So that those. Those those personalities band towards the rest of the group as opposed to there being a. Core of of distractions that bend the the group the other way. And I think that's the biggest difference. I mean, if it's about culture they have to they have to move on. If if it's about the team in culture, they have to move on. Back with Wiley. We're joined now by NBA champion, and he house moved to the NBA where James Harden's crazy season continued last night with the veered dropping career high sixty one in a win over the Knicks over his last five games hard is averaging more than fifty two points per game. And he's done it without being assisted on a single basket, which is by far the longest streak of its kind in NBA history, which only seems to be adding the hardens reputation as a ball hog. I'm going to color me unimpressed. Compl- unimpressed. This is a bad form basketball. These new rules that don't allow you to play virtually any defense on the parameter is creating a lot of guys at scoring fifty sixty points. And clearly the best at it to do all this without an assist takes all the shine off off over for me, the gas sit now plan ice oh ball and Mike dantonio system. And it's it's great to look at in the box score rate to go online and look at the staff, but to actually watch it happen. Not that impressing are impressed. Sixties? I what the old forty or thirty five. No, it ain't. No like, I sew is a play. You know, if you've ever been in a basketball coach say we got ice. Oh, right here you like all right. And it is. And it is. Right now. Well, it's okay. Because guess what the team is is actually responded to it. If you look at their officer rating is higher in the last twenty one games when you've been on his hair. If you look at him in terms of what he's doing bad Knicks. All right. Well, that's. Well, that's his fault. I said twenty one games they look at him. He's forfeit assists. The guy is facilitate doing his thing and put up buckets. I just don't understand how you can really be both in this for discount would his hands. Right. And there. Winning. I'm with you. I agree with you as far as the optics of it. It doesn't it's not pleasing to the eye to watch that brand of basketball, but hey to hell with that brand to be pleased into the I they're getting wins. And they moved up since Chris Paul. He has to do this, Chris Paul and clean. Cappella went down. He had to pick up the low. So you want him to not have the ball in his hands when he's four finish this when he's their best playmaker on their team. So you wanna put it in Austin rivers to be the play makes so pass it to your guy who can get buckets PJ Tucker. I mean, you gotta assist. I'm not impressed. How you not impressed with sixty one because the Lee has outlaw perimeter defense. Everybody's scoring. Everybody's now scoring who. When somebody got sixty and it's had. Doing is him doing. Face. That's was impressive. He keeps doing it over and over and over when you I'm just going to draw line to Wilton because that's ridiculous sixty point games in their careers thirty two of but when you start getting into Elgin Baylor Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan doing so you gotta be impressed with that, then sixty points and fifteen rebounds, like, Mike, sixty points, visitor module. Mike, Mike is totally different. How how you did? It might have the judge the threes amount of threes. And didn't go to free throw line as much as James harden does. But when you look at what he's doing having sixty points, fifteen rebounds, and then he had five steals with with this. That's all effort. I'm not mad if you like Kobe's last game. But look at though if you can fifteen rebounds, Dow love that get all. Eighty shots. It wasn't that stop that man with five or twenty seventeen thirty eight. I mean, that's a lot of shots. But if you get fifty rebels you out there working rebound effort play if you steal Demi you engage defensively. So hey takes a few extra shots, especially how you feel right now about the effort. How about the fact he's leading the league minutes. That's let you right. You have to carry the low. There's ample nine for the moment. He just rising to the Cajun when he's undermanned. What's the option? Give us the contrast. Okay. How could he play more effect that the helped his team win in a way? That's the different argument. Okay. So I'm hands. Just remember. I'm a fan over here, y'all professional athlete. I'm a professional fan not pleasing. The watch doesn't remind me of Michael or any of the all time greats even Koby as prime does remind me of that. It reminds me of a guy who's in a little rigged up system with Mike, Dan, Tony where he gets to do. Whatever the hell he wants to do it. He gets to play ice. Oh ball, topless key. And they. Call all he gets to get him bait people in the files and go to the free throw line. It's not fun to what I can agree with you with that. But you say he's it doesn't look like, Mike. No, nobody looked like mic except Koby a little bit. So that's why you like Kobe. And then that's James harden. He's doing how James harden? Does it now? Kobe does it not how Mike does it? He doing how he does. He found a way to hey, I could get to the free throw line. If you're a great shooter. He's a great shooter was the best way to start to make sure that you could get hot go to the free throw line. So you go in get easy layup, he's playing his best basketball because he's utilizing his skill set to the rules. It's not its fault that these are the rules. He's hey, I'm just playing this is how they're going gonna have the garment. He's a tough gore. I'm excited about tomorrow night, though, the raptors, and I wanna see what Kawais are they gonna play out. He got to play the more. He said I'll four games I think he was circled into. It'd be one hundred percent for this guy. I think the NBA should look at their rules and look at the product they're actually putting on. Court it nor the little rigged up media deal that they have where no one questioned anything the NBA is doing. And instead look is our product any good is that is our rating slipping because our product is bad, and what we're putting on the court isn't pleasing to the eye. So nice little gimme he looks good in the record books and people can talk about it on shows. But are the fans, which I am one are they pleased and entertained by this do the fans are very rockets fans are enthused every night. He comes to play. They happy to see him put up sixty forty they happy. You just not a rockets fan. There you go and this is a fishing office. You like their bottom league in terms of fishes see their top eight in office rating. So their affective there officiant, and it just doing it a different sellers. She grew up out here in LA. Magic johnson. All do not wanna see no more. No lift no, look passes eighties respect the magic. But that game is pass. Nice bra. I wanna see all that. And you. Lincoln to liberty is the basketball, you know. It's don't. Evolution also, wants slapping NFL. You love it because it was yesterday. And it was tougher. It's a Magic Johnson the fast-breaking sharing the ball. You try to tell me this. Who to do? Johnson in his prime. Play play any air. But you preferred that over this prefer Golden State three flow in office up at the top of the three point line. We'll give you whatever you don't won't I love. And by the way, Jay he's he is in Dan Tony system, but they're not running Dan Tony system right Now, Dan Tony system is just rolls. The ball out their players play for play once he lay let's give money case scared to death. Hey, guys, Jason Whitlock here. Thank you for listening to the speak for yourself podcasts. If you like what you hear you should take a minute to check out. The maybe I'm crazy podcast hosted by the Herge, very own joy Taylor on the maybe I'm crazy podcast. You'll tap into a different take on the world of sports joy will break down all the biggest stories from the NFL NBA culture in and out of sports and everything in between. So subscribe now for a weekly episode of maybe I'm crazy every Tuesday night on your favorite podcast platform. Now back to the show. Put locking Lally. Jay who's was on in any house. Get antisocial my favorite segment darn L. Smith our social media manager. I didn't have villages very orange intro where Bill orange central or. Now downtown legend man playing. Hey, hey. On the more. You had to take it out. Sane. All right. Don was popping. Guys, been giving some great content and Tonio broil seems to be one after another guy. I had an appearance on the mat singer, then the Instagram James Harrison and yesterday, we talked about the half a million for them jury. Now, he posted a picture on the ground with a blond mustache and one Blige drifts match with the caption rock store has that. Quite the noise. Now AB is Louie. Opposite of quiet in the noise has lost his down line here. I'm just you called me at old man early in the show. If I go. Oh because I don't want sound. Oh, just look stupid stupid. What about a man with earring? Got tattoos. We go there. We all got our express. Earring? I got here ring soup. When all the way. Go. Poppa pump from. I think he lost a bit. That's what that was. You had to lose a bit or you cut to other blonde red late on his lip. That's right. Live. What's the problem? We all got weird expressions, man. It's all good. I guess no. I liked the airing by ear. Not your rings, plural. You like to do. Just the one left growing growing inside. And that we was talking to one airing and the left fact y'all hit when they went to civilized society. Out the billions. I got the dose today next moving onto the Pro Bowl where there's a ton of pagan stores. Patriots going on no surprise here. The Kansas City Chiefs Twitter page tar req- signing autographs skipping straight over and innocence patriots fan then Jess Jamal Adams posted this video of him. Absolutely. Destroying the patriots mascot? Adam said is actually the person inside the suit to the hospital, and he plans on visiting the positive to the person New England's been dominant NFL from us twenty years now. So it makes sense why the rest of the league has been having a vendetta against them. And as a coach fan, I loved it. But the L at the pay towards the patriots global you do really went to. Ground. Oh, he didn't trying to get a lawsuit going here. Hospital four Jovan band the dead. Beggar hit it says the Kushtia. Kushtia boom. The back the. Probably probably a little tiny guy. Look, look, it's a lot of pad their football players, man. I had to learn this very young. Even I was like six foot two thirty in like sixth grade. My my mother says, hey, man, you played to play with little kids like that you played through them rough. And that's the issue here. Somebody to do NFL player, man. No. He not even NFL player. He's an all-star. Dues in a league. I feel for low man in that for that that day. He is he wasn't wearing hospital for real. Yuck. Over here. That's school. He got stuck and look here. Get up quick. Holly and happy he ain't get up have been doing radio sign autographs award. That's cold. Sure. His face when he was in where right over him like that down. It'd be a super salty right here. They had nothing to do if he's a kid I'm selling but thought I might do this. A one hundred. It's all in fun. I'm jealousy. Y'all. Don't come to me with the patriots. You better get about Joe's. Nine that for the young. All right. What's next staying on the grid iron raiders quarterback? Derek carr. Clapback TV pundits for questioning his lack of passion and saying that the raiders should move on car tweeted, Dana white and you'll see quote, hey, how do I child or couple of these trials on TV to fight? I think we should start a business together pro athletes can challenge some of these people to an octagon fight until they give us an answer. You don't know me? Stop lying. You guys like cars business idea here. Terrible. Formal to Hulu. You will find let us know that we got to you like, no smoking. We we kill you what these warriors seem life while we don't challenge the wrong person and get your Bank brains. Yourself you won't to. I'm gonna be careful because this is my I'm raider fan. Right. So I don't wanna go to our. Plus, my brother and loves dare cars. I wanted to deal with him today to the house about talking about his quarterback. But I'm with you might have to move on from me, man. I mean, that's thrown really gonna take care of your brother in the. That one go deep with it. But I think we ought to move on from him for this reason his numbers going down. His numbers are going down. He's not looking like the same quarterback. He's scared to take the ball downfield. It's a roller coaster ride up and down. But I hear what you're saying. He's here. He's just have some fun here. We taking his much on the show. Far out there. The game. I don't know if Dr red defined print of his contract, but that's one of the reasons why hired him. If anybody tries to jump on me is John. He. Got your back. That's why we got you here Buick as that way. Michael Thomas run over here. I might have to protect you. I wasn't ex-. Yeah. A funny right here. Larry FitzGerald decided come here for sixteen season in Arizona. Kranas Twitter page made video listen leaving. I'm leaving. I'm not even. Wolf of Wall Street yet as you got surprised still wants to play for such a bad thing. No, I'm not I think he's the face of their bad team. And they've given quite a bit of money. I think he's getting sixteen million mix you to try to gloss over the fact, they're not going to be any good. Yeah. I mean, I think if building NFL career, especially a hall of fame. Correct. I it starts with I want to do it. Then it can I do it. And then you never want to give that up a lot of people. Now that were saying it's time for you to go, then go, and you like it when it's over it's over. It's over always team a good team. I'm still out there. Living out my childhood dreams. Man, Kibo Umbro, the I love you. I mean, the thing is with Larry Fitch. I'll live in Phoenix. He is he does so much for the community. He's just upstanding citizen. Great guy puts on so many charity events in Phoenix foot for the city and. I'm happy to see him come back because it was a question was he coming back all FitzGerald probably play twenty five years spent half a year with every team. So we can teach the guys what to do and what not to hurt. By the way, big. Larry's one of the best guys I've ever met all right last. But not least earlier today on a herd. Kala had interesting point about the bras injury. Take a listen he wants to make sure people think this is no big deal because with LeBron Lonzo ball being injury. Riddled? Brandon Ingram is not as good as we thought. If LeBron is now getting old, and this is a real injury. How attractive are the Lakers to go to Lonzo can't stay healthy. Lebron now suffers a real injury. I think they're downplaying the injury. I've been calling awesome here. No, no, no. I don't I think he's overplaying the injury. Because again this year is all I think they said it became a year is about protecting lebrons minutes and making sure he's fresh at the fear and fresh for next season. I think LeBron's overplaying this injury and just taking a year off. I think the Lakers did put out false messaging, maybe not malice. But when they kept seeing is two to three games or we'll check next Friday when you tear your growing when you hear pop it's a month. Minimum and anybody's ever been sports lows in the moment at pop, I'm like we. Did you see how he walked off the court when you get off the core? That's at least four to six weeks. Just the way he walked off the court. So let me just though this in there. I think any was a witness to this. I saw Paul Pierce will. I was the win came back three that was in the final. That was in the thought it was his knee. He thought it was wasn't growing. Boys is sensitive though, man. I don't think on this. This is nothing. Time to put on our thinking caps. We're joined by Eric land and TJ who's been zodda as you all know, I may journalists, and we've got our resident Ivy league Lombi is very oh Marcellus Wiley. We're gonna take a deeper look at a big issue in sports got a special cap for Columbia grad bring it out. Thank you very much cleaner. Bathe him thoroughly. The move to Tom Brady was about to make his record ninth Super Bowl appearance. And a lot of people are wondering if it could be his last before he decided to call it a career our buddy Jay Glazer went so far as to say that he could see Brady and Bill to check retired together if they win at all this year while fans and the media love the going out on top narrative. Many of the sport's world's greatest figures for Michael Jordan to Muhammad Ali to Joe Montana, Willie Mays stuck around until they were well past their championship prime. I think if Brady wants to do something to distinguish himself from Joe Montana from Michael Jordan from Willie Mays from Muhammad Ali going out on top after winning and or playing in the Super Bowl would elevate. His legacy. Look, it would distinguish him from the other goats if he did something they didn't have the discipline to do. Okay. So as legacy is defined certainly perceived is what others judge you based on your life's work, and what they think of your reputation beyond your existence on this planet, and it's funny that if that's the case, then one let me improbity live my life the way I want to this whole legacy in priority versus you gotta go out on top is better messaging is a better. Look, it's better optics versus dammit. I am playing child's game. And I'm playing it into my forties. And I wanna play it to forty five or beyond should be the focus and Tom Brady if you are in decline if you have the Michael Jordan Washington Wizards last couple of years, we ain't gonna remember that or we're certainly not going to prop that up to a place where we're going to start to take slice. Tom Brady and his greatness. So for me when we start saying legacy. We give ourselves on outside too much power about what this guy wants to do if he wants to go out on top Michael Strahan drone bed is. John. Elway. Okay. That's great. If you wanna go out and talk, Michael Jordan, but still be the goat. That's fine with me as well. But if you wanna just ball till you fall and go out in a big bucket of ashes and just to the remains of Tom Brady is out on the field do as well, man. Could people understand how hard it is to even get here? Let alone do what he's doing at this age do it until you don't wanna do it. I think he's already separated himself. Just just off the career. He's had in the long jibbidy of being great for such a long period. He's already separated himself from all those guys you name number one. Not Michael Jordan. You don't think? So Michael Jordan wasn't great at forty years old shocks Michael Jordan's playing a sport where you can't do that at forty year. All I'm saying is Michael Jordan wasn't great. From the time. He was a starter to the time. He left Tom Brady is pretty much been great from the time through Bledsoe got hurt until today in VP leisure. And there's a zero percent chance zero percent chance if they winning here retires zero percent chance I know that four fact as hero percent. And Tom Brady's playing sport. That a lot of people said you couldn't play at a high level in your forties and Tom Brady gets hit and Michael Jordan didn't get hit. And I think the one thing are you joining the. When you're talking about a contact sport. I is not you know, you gotta put those in. Well, you got to put into context in terms of age. But the thing with greatness is you set a bar, and then you surpass that bar. And that's what Tom's doing is. He keeps resetting the bar of of what greatness is and then works to surpass it. And I liked the idea of him continuing on. I do think it's probably in their both their best interest to go out together as opposed to Tom leaving and Bill stay I think this marriage works really well for them. And when it's time to go, they should probably move move off together. You've said something you said several y'all interesting, but I do you think Bill Belichick will care about leaving at the same time as Tom Brady. I don't coaching is a discipline. You could he could do till he's near eighty as long as faculties there. It's funny because of a long time ago, you say can't if I'm one of those old guys coaching, you know, put me out to pasture and here he is he's coaching a lot longer than maybe into spaded. But I think the unique thing that he has is his kids are working there. And so it's an opportunity for him to spend time with the kids in a totally different context. Football season for guys who are in it with their family is you don't see them. But now the fact that he's able to work with them think that may put a unique spin on how long he stays in terms of of working together. It's going to be hard to find anything like Tom Brady. And it's going to be interesting to see how his legacy is affected wants time. Does leave I think that would be the joy in the challenge of trying to do something without discredited. If Tom retires Bill continues a coach, but he doesn't have that same type of success. Does he now get discredited? As Tom Brady was the reason, I can tell you. There's no joy in Cleveland when he had one winning season. And there's no joy our first year New England when we went five eleven so joy is a two before Grady his first start. Yeah. Let's the wind down. It's crazy. He's going to give who wasn't a hit Jubilo was a mole, Colin. Oh, Louis Louis Louis got him. And it's impossible to say is it possible to keep up this level of excellence once this marriage is broken apart. Whatever happens like that's impossible on the remaining individuals. So Bill check send the stuff up for failures. By staying everybody. Also has a great challenge. Saying look I wasn't a winning coach before Tom Brady. But let me show you that. I am winning coach head coach outside of Tom Brady. Maybe that's a challenge. I think he would do it easily. I wanna go back to your point of somehow that Michael he's already exceeded what Michael Jordan accomplice? I I'm not ready to go there. And I do look I'm the guy last week said Tom Brady is the greatest athlete of this era. The greatest athletes since Michael Jordan put him right there with Muhammed Ali in terms of will the competition and all that other stuff. But if to say, you know, Jordan went six for six in the NBA finals. Jordan, you know, wizard years, I kind of agree with ourselves don't count his record is unblemished as far as greatness dominance. And I do think if Tom Brady doesn't participate in a year or two where he's fallen off and as the shell of him. So I think that's how he distinguishes himself from Jordan. He came in on top. And he goes out on top. We just have never seen that from the all time all time green. It's weird. If you re it doesn't count when you're talking about Jordan's greatness. But if you want to compare his greatness to Tom Brady, I'm accountable with her years you have to. We can't describe as your own accord. Yeah. You have to include Jordan individually was great from day one. His team wasn't and Tom Brady his team was he wasn't necessarily. But guess what? Tom Brady hit the ground running that team. They want eleven games that year when they were over two and five eleven year before did they win the Super Bowl pump the boat. Okay. Just three offensive touchdowns in the playoffs that that you hear that we wanted to write. Well, and one of them was Drew Bledsoe. So Tom com has matured in that position. And the only thing I'll say Jason about on pop that the sanctions Tomen my mind is he keeps resetting fought on top is. And that to me is what distinguishes him as a great athlete is every time. We think there's no way this bar is going to be surpassed. He then resets what how many hall of fame players over. The course of Tom Brady's career offensively. Did he play with Randy moss? Probably the only one agreeing. Yeah. We've got adamant I'm gonna put in the hall of fame. Come on Jason what? Ballot gronkowski's grind grungy onto the hall of fame. Are you serious players? Good defensively offensively gronkowski. Randy moss. I love joy element. There's no way he's going to the hall of fame if they do then they should let everybody in hoping they shouldn't because just remember this Terrell Davis part of his argument for getting in the hall of fame was his playoff postseasons, which you can't like you can't control. Did we all down? You can't control like Julia element was lucky to be drafted by the patriots. Like, you can't control that you just there's not one coach in NFL that will take. Julia element not one including Bill Belichick over Antonio Brown. Odell Beckham Julio Jones AJ green, Michael Thomas, and there's heat and Ali and go on and on and on those guys that wouldn't love to have Juliet elements postseason resume if you. Housing game. Where do you think gronkowski rates hall of fame? One hundred percent. Yeah. Around Cousy holiday him. Randy my whole point is Michael Jordan play with another all-time, great Scottie Pippen. And so Tom Brady didn't have that. He didn't. He played Randy malls short period of time. He had gronkowski whole career where gronkowski's career. So where's your fing? Tom Brady have named Bill Belichick. No. That Phil Jackson. That's what you had Dante. Scar naked the offensive line coach into that whole fame discussion. He's he's done. Incredible things there overtime. Very little. We include it what listen man, don't compare Phil Jackson and Bill Bill is just not the same football so much more difficult to coach fifty three or as opposed coaching twelve. I want to discredit Phil Jackson. But he's not.

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