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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 227 Brian McKenna
"Yes. Yes, welcome in to another edition. The mckernan show here on the inside STO podcast from the home loan expert that calms studios. Our guest this week on the program. Former Saint Louis sports, talk radio host, Brian McKenna still pops up here and again but for the most part has not been doing it for the last few years and his story as to what he has been experiencing over the last few years as what we talk about today here on the program, and I will let Brian tell his story because it is, it's, it's, it's something else, and I'm not gonna even get in the way of it by by attempting to, to summarize an advance you could hear his words. And also, we happen to have this conversation, the morning after the blues beat the sharks to advance the Stanley Cup final, so Brian's, huge blues fan and so all fired up about that as well, like a legitimate huge blue crystal clear with my phantom live and die. In the Stanley Cup playoffs but regular season not my bag per se. But he's live and die like a lot of blues fans throughout the regular season. So we've been happier for people who live in died or in the regular season to see what's going on here in Saint Louis with the blues being in the Stanley Cup final word the homeowner expert dot com studios Ryan Kelly the sponsor of the studios. He's online at the home loan expert dot com in the home buying market is heating up. I don't know if I can get any hotter house on the market and they're gone. You wanna make sure that you're in a good position to get a home should the one, you want go on the market get pre-approved now with Ryan Kelly at the home, loan expert dot com, or with home values continuing to go up. What a great position to be in capitalize on that in refinance with Ryan Kelly, he's online at the home loan expert dot com. First class guy run the first class business and I recommend him to you. The home loan expert dot com were in the Mark. Hanna evergreen wealth. 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Three one four eight eight nine zero five zero three that's three one four eight eight nine zero five zero three more Cana of evergreen. Wealth strategies. Highs, the sponsor of our guest this week on the Tim Kernan show, ladies and gentlemen, Brian McKenna. Brian, thanks so much for coming in and, and sitting here and hanging out man. Thank you for inviting me. And thank you for this morning. I gotta tell you, first of all last night with the blues the greatest deal. You're I mean you're there there guys in the media who are who are fans because it's the job and then the guy's become fans because it's hard not to become fans once you around hockey players because they're the best by far the Beth, but then there are guys. And I think of you, I think of my clayborn, I think, Randy character would fall into this category, and probably leaving some people out on intentionally and I'm not trying to, but who have lived in died with the blues before it was in style, and you're one of the guys just concerned with little my older brothers from a family of ten seven boys and my brother. My brother Bill got got us into hockey. We used to place a stick hockey in between periods downstairs. My dad would come down every fucking hit each other. Shea what's there's room for give us five minutes, and you're could come out and watch the next period. But I had a Barkley plager- jersey. My twin brother Kevin had his Bob plager- jersey. And I'm trying to think who was Dan Kelly. I guess are who was calling the TV gangs back then. Yeah. Who was calling TV games? Dan kelly. He was radio, the radio, you're right. I can't even Joe buck on the show this morning. He was a people don't realize it. But my dad called games. The first one I think he was. I think he was. And then I if we had Dan beard or from the podcast, and I feel like he called is people don't realize it, but I didn't J senior also. Yes, he did. Yeah. I mean, all the all these people were involved with the police broadcast from that seventy sports department came wax, which is like, you know, the Paul department of all time. But yeah, I mean there's these names were socio with it. And so it's a part of your your I just love, like I don't I never really get vet nervous during sporting events. Nine no not. Really? But you have a lot of times, you have money on the line. I well I bet on the sharks night. That's how I handle it. We know is really perverse. But that's how it's like okay if the blues lose at least I'll win some money. But last night, it got to a point where I'm like, even if they even if I if the sharks win, there's not enough money that's going to make it worth it. You know, I'm betting something that's really irresponsible kind of you weren't feeling bad. No. I couldn't be hap-. No. And then my dad, I use it online site. My dad comes over to pick us up and he's always. Is saying it's like it'll be Christmas morning, and they'll have like he'll say, I got the over on this one, it's like the blocks in the T wolves, and I go, what are you doing? You couldn't name. You don't even know who LeBron James is much less. Kidder wolves. And it's it's Christmas morning and you're cheering for points tending. I got five dollars and someone has to be a code for five hundred bucks and we probably need intervention. And then so last night. He comes over and we're about to head down to the enterprise centre. He goes, hey, could you switch over to my account, and I'm like, oh, this is the moment where I'm going to see, like he's minus thirty thousand there. Talking. He goes, I'm going to put some money on the over I go here, but that means you're going to be pulling for the sharks to score goals. Just bet on either the sharks, if you like the blues, but in the blues and I'm gonna I gotta go you overnight. Okay. What do you want me to bet God, this is going to be be it, and I have to call my mom and say, Dan, got a problem? And he goes, let's go five dollars, and I go like as an five dollars, he goes five, and then I see the account, it's minus thirty dollars. He's really been putting five dollars all of this time screaming at the TV now. That's the thrill of them. I guess real for him. So I'm betting it because which is really stupid. I mean, the blues keep winning, which is it keeps costing me money. But I couldn't be happier. Right. But that's how I handle it. So, I would I would think you watching it. I would think you'd be a nervous wreck. I'm not I'm nervous. But. It's kind of weird, but this, this cancer should have had for the last couple of years changed everything. Yeah. I guess that gives you a little different perspective on this. It's like, hey I love the blues, but if it if it doesn't work out. Think about how fantastic, this is for Layla now, if they don't win she's going to be heartbroken. But just stupid stuff like that. You just, you know, you, you really value everyday the the previous day. So that's the thing. I really wanted to get it. I wanted to get into your career get excitement or growing up in watching you on I it was probably wasn't charter then. I don't even know what the Cato local origination. Is that what he would Pete Parisi with worldwide magazine was all that was public ex up? No. We have had commercial from release your one to me, the castled Anheuser Busch. Thank you. Mark lamping. Oh, my, that's my brother. We sold high five Jerry absolutely sold hooters because the general Cao hooters, the general manager happened to hear me on radio and who they're with concord sports cards and concord plaza Fisher, I knew Dave the owner. He you know, he gave me give me a couple of hundred dollars, absolutely. Oh. And the president casino the president. Now. Keep in mind. My oldest brother was a state, Senator then. So they were looking at me going. Yeah. We really just they're calling. What can we do down in just how much is it worth giving this kid the money you know what I mean? So your show, though, was like I don't even know how to just kind of reminded me, the set up was kind of like a late night talk show set. Wasn't it yet? The in did you have guests? But euro pining, what was going on, on the show started? We started no, what I remember. Okay. Let me think. Yes. Yes, I did. And I'm trying to remember if I've interning at ks then or not. I can't remember which one was that thirteen? Yes, there was rich gray random gray. He got God bless his soul. Let's see clayborn was on there Jennings. Right. Giannis was there Howard balder Ramsey. Rick wallace. The Colonel rainy Hugh did some weekends talk about a hockey nut. Randy Hugh, Mark is man. Oh, yeah. And so, yeah, I started. I started John euros that was early nineties. Yeah. Somewhere right around there. And it was, you know, it was just a, a total fuck around show. I had a little death. I don't even aware I bought it. I'd probably bought it dollar store or something, and some weeks, I'd have my friends on and it just developed a hockey Kalt because my brother was doing videography, and we would go to practices. And we were getting tons and tons of shots in interviews, even it was only like six minutes with Brett hall hall chase Shanahan all took us under their took my brother nine hundred under their wings and it. Became his hockey culture. So it was really weird because there wasn't there wasn't anything around the cardinals. Weren't very good. And there was no NFL football and on top of it, you happen to have some incredible talent with great personalities. You know it's not just talent, but personnel keep in mind there wasn't I mean, I think ESPN was I mean, they were going, then but they weren't you know what they are today. Don't think much of the league that along. Jimmy start on these Stephen a Smith shows and Shannon short show. Go ahead fire here. Here's what I do because I think the most a phony motherfuckers on the face it here. You know they sit in a room and it's all premeditated. So here's what you're gonna do. Now here's the problem, though. They like me because I watch at once in a while because I want to yell at them, and I find myself, walk around doing Shannon Sharpe going skip skip. Let me tell you skip. And then I'm like like that impression single guy sitting around trying to imitate this fuck head Shannon Sharpe, who just and skip Bayless is the worst. I can't stand that guy. I can't believe that it works. I tried it because through it works in the sense that they're filling time for low cost, even though they're paying those guys, a hell of a lot of money, relative to sports television, expenditures for rights. Okay. And so that's why it works and by works. I mean it fills the program they're able to sell the advertising, but I. Can't believe because if you want to spend money like a real sports caliber show, it costs so much money to travel, and higher the reporters and producers that pay for a studio, you, pay skip, whatever he's making like eight million a year. How much do you? How much do you making ten million and just to have like you said, choreographed takes I couldn't be that phony? I you always when you were doing sports talk radio, you always say what you thought I personally respect the game. Game man. Because kind of the game, you know, your loyalty, and this is why you know, your advertisers, love you is because, you know, you don't just endorse products. You know there's a lot of guys who just doubt. I'm sure the salesperson comes in everybody solutions all my gosh. That's, that's what they'll anytime. Somebody asks me if you're just and I said, no I can't because we got into a spot here with an account within the last few years. And I found out some things that I was uncomfortable. I said, I can't I can't not bots anymore because I think of body solutions and you're a guy who keeps yourself in shape, and I'm sure like, oh, if you don't eat for four hours before bed, you're gonna lose weight. That's not really a whatever the hell that thing like a drink, or something, you drink late at night, and basically, what it is don't. It won't take this, right. Fill the bubble had bleeding comes in two sales chicken. She was like I got a great account for you and I needed the money. Then trust me, it was dollars a month. That's a nice there. And I, I can't do it. Can't you said why? And I said, well, first off, you're not really need of losing. He's gonna say, fitness free, I need to gain weight, and I just can't do it and she was so pissed off my boss called me. And he's like dude, the station needs the Mayan. I said, I can't do it go find. You know, the fat guy over there, usually them potpourri of guys in our building, our business turn out. So last night, I watched it by myself. Now. I'm not watch it. I watch. Because you're nervous or is that because it was because we can watch a big game by myself. Okay. It's very odd Super Bowl. I am home alone. I go to Pueblo, so at five o'clock because I can't stand the pre-game show. So I don't turn the TV on until five I call them, my order Pueblo Sali's at five I go to Tom Margaritas some chicken fajitas, and I am home to hear the national anthem. I like that. I like I like that, and I'm not texting with anybody. It's I wanna watch the Super Bowl with hockey. It is a little different because I've been watching the games with a group of people, and it is fun. It's really fun. But I was sick yesterday from, like I said, this is a great day from the blues would have lost. I would have been okay 'cause I'm taking my last chemo pill today. This is the fourth time I've gone through an eight week pill treatment program for four time in the last sixteen months. Oli so shit tonight. I pop. That last pill and then I get eight weeks off. I didn't think I was gonna do it again. And then I do it for another eight weeks, but towards the end of the chemo stuff, you just really fatigued. And so I was tired. I- diarrhea. I had a respiratory infection old. Poor Brian, everybody, get out your violence last week and I got an allergic reaction to the anti-biotics. And so I'm broke out in hives, the last three day or something that was just all red and throwing up and diarrhea. So I wanted to go out last night, but I knew I throw down, too many cocktails, and I would be set back in, because you invited me here. I'm not kidding had. Did you not invited me on the show tonight, probably last night about six fifteen I'm not going? Not going out so thank you. So we so Peter Agee booking. The day I'm dead densu. I always worried if maybe if my dad wouldn't have been with us, we might have gone out and stayed out all night, and go home and ended on the show and I'd be like, oh, just I'll tax Brian and say, hey, man. And then I would've felt terribly now the next set my God. Yeah, but we went to we went home, like, you know, eleven o'clock news for you sat there and watched the post, I was just so I'm so happy for so many people. I mean, all your guests this morning to tell everyone you hit on again this morning as a gangster, Pete Iggy and plow. Boy did a hell of a job this morning in order Kelly chase Joe Mickle. Eddie, Cam Janssen, Dallas, Drake. Darren Pang, and Joe buck. Wow. And so from from an alumni perspective, and, you know, how strong that alumni is because you cover those guys they're the best, get the national perspective with Micheletti, who's also an alumni. And then Joe buck who's a hardcore fan. He pulled don't you talking to him? He was so into it. I watched Joe a couple times at the game. And he does he still sit in the corner, down near the he's. I do know this hockey room and he is intense. And when he said today after they score, I get up and I'm high five in anyone. But the funny thing is you have ninety five people coming down to Jones, and they all want to take the Celtics the selfie with celebrating. But as though he was watching it at home. But, you know, I'm happiest for who I'm curious because you will have a good perspective on this, Bobby player. That's the guy I always think about too. That's the exact cobby plager- plager- in, in Kelly chose yes. Oh, chaser, to and the guys soul. Yes, you know, and those guys can't help but anytime you talk about the blues and the Stanley Cup, they just immediately go into addict for meal mode. You know, they can't help but do it because they mean so much to him. And sure enough hall was telling the story of he's walking down the hallway and he runs, he's he sees Bobby and chaser emotional. And then he starts getting emotional means so much to those guys. And, you know, I'm a fan too, so I got emotional ladder. When you're a lot of people handshake in hockey. It's the end of the best. Well, it's the fun. I mean you beat the living fuck out of each other for six games. And then you look at the guy and the guy says go in a Cup, I summer tell your girlfriend or why did I like, wow, it really is. It's the absolute best and what's happened here over the last few weeks in Saint Louis will lay a foundation for generations of hockey fans, just like for me growing up in the eighties with the cardinals for so many fans. It was in the blues in the eighties. When there's no NFL the cardinal sucked in the nineties. But now I mean for a kid who's eight years old and saw Pat, maroon the Oakville, kids score that goal. It's a sent him to one instruments finals on after the hand pass and win three straightness go, okay. Fuck you lose again wrote Buller those guys best. They're the best. They're the best. I always said that in, in now, I think people are seeing these personalities. They're just so down to earth. I and chase when he was on the podcast. He said, what's the deal with that wire all you? I mean for real. It's like I don't even know who to pick. That's an asshole over years. And he go our game kind of has a way of rooting out the ass chaser, once told me the reason. Why they're also respectful and down to earth is first of all, a lot of them are farmboys from candidate. There's that and he says, secondarily, they have to win their fourteen or fifteen Mullen, leave home and family. Don't go to somebody else's house and establish rules and fucked the house rules and leave your shit on the floor. And so. And as you well know stuff doesn't hit the floor in the locker room. You don't step on the emblem new, it's just so different than the other sports, and that's really not a knock at the other sports. It's just hockey players different Wendy ever hear of a hockey player. How often do you hear about them getting arrested domestic abuse drugs? I mean it's, it's so rare the way that it is intends to they police throwing locker room whole hell, absolutely physical. Yeah. Code red, you know, like you see you see to baseball players. You know they they're, they're having a beef in the locker room. They're not ready to throw down. Yes. Like some of the shit that's going on with the cartilage. I thought was a sign that they were Mike with any kind of losing the room when yada, your Molina was listen. I have great respect for, for both those guys. But yet, you're Molina kind of shade, Athenian, Instagram. I'm just like oh, yeah. Oh my God. You never it just it's understood, you know, you just respect the America. And that's what I love about it. And the thing is Brian, and we've, we've been around for a while one of the things that I the first time I started going into the locker rooms Mike. Oh my God. I'm more upset about the loss like if I go into the cardinal Walker and they are like what a mess up that. Get your Bentley. Now, of course I have and you didn't have your supermodel. Now one. Okay. I did have my hair, my hair, so yeah. The help but the hockey players we can invest because we know they care as much as those of us, who pay in the stands or watch it on TV and it truly is something I absolutely love it. Hope you're enjoying the conversation with Brian here on the Tim mckernan show from the home loan expert dot com studios, our sponsors, make all of this possible, and James Carlton's been with us from the very beginning three one four nine six one forty eight hundred to go online at Carlton insurance dot net. James Carlton is his name. James Carlton is now my agent so impressed with him that we switched to him. And then when we've run into problems since James has been at the absolute forefront of taking care of business for us. His name is James Carlton, three one four nine six one forty one hundred for your home for your auto for your life insurance. 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And 'cause what you've done what you've been through. I'm sure some people know about it a little bit. It's been in the paper, there have been a bunch of gofundme me's and in your updates on, on Facebook, but as far as how it all began in what you have been through. I mean it's I I don't know. I don't want the right. I mean you're living this. And you're talking about tonight. You have your last chemotherapy pill and then there's eight weeks off. And then you're going at it again. Hopefully that's that take me back to what happened and how it all started. All right. Let me start by asking you a question. Yes. Do you remember your healthcare? Absolutely. And I feel guilty talking about it because I got the first chapter of the book, and then I, then I got to jail. But, you know, you know, the feeling when his I, you know, when I was actually dating this chicken, she found a black spot under my right, armpit. Then what year is two thousand fourteen fourteen really five years. Yeah. So. She was a nurse. And she's like, you gotta go the doctor and I thought blackspot under I, I didn't even notice it and I mean, when I say a spot it was a little bigger than a freckle, and she's no, it's there's some there's something trust me. I was like, oh, don't worry about it. And she said it was in may may of two thousand fourteen I said now I have an appointment in October. And she said I made a making one for you next week. I said, so for some reason, my ObamaCare was all fucked up. And I had to drive down to Washington, Missouri, which is beautiful love Washington like wash closest doctor down there, and they take a biopsy. They took a couple of biopsies, and then two days later, they called and they said, they, we need you to come in and all this, and I'm thinking you know it's all good. So I still remember, we're walking back to the room and they didn't take me to an examining room. They took me to his office, and I'm, I'm thinking, that's the fuck is going on here. So we sit down. And I did you know, they say if you're going to have an operation don't look it up on YouTube. Oh, god. What he had REU. He had his laptop out, and he didn't know I could see the screen so he said, Brian, and he's going through a few things and I went down to the fourth paragraph, and I saw malignant melanoma. I almost passed out. I just the word malignant. You know. So he tells me all this and he said, we think we caught it early. We have to make sure it's not your lymph nodes, blah, blah, blah. So I mean they scheduled a surge right away. So I really didn't have too much time to over analyze it, you know, and plus, Evan my girlfriend back then who was a nurse. She knew how to handle the situation so it all started there. And so how quickly do the surgery then within seven days while and then. Did they give you any I remember the phone call? I got. And again, I I'm not ever trying to draw parallel because I feel guilty. If anything that I got out of jail free, but, I remember my doctor when he called me to tell me, I had foam, which fortunate that weren't too. Yeah. And he said, you know, this is this is obviously, I know it's devastating, but you should know you know it's an eighty five percent survive. Right. I'm just hearing survivor as you're going. Oh my God. So I'm sure they the very least the doctor or your girlfriend tells you starts giving you numbers, I would imagine I feel like that standard. You start hearing this stuff that he gave both sides of the coin. You know, he said, you know, we, we should be should be able to take care of this, but you have to know this possibly could happen as well. So everything, basically turned out, I, I had cutest on hold. Home. So you know what you're playing I was thinking about being totake, but so then it's just since two thousand fourteen it hit me again. When was that February of two thousand seventeen I wouldn't have I had a pretty big chunk. Right near my ear. But I thought it was just going to be cut and burn thing. So I can't get into too much detail because there's a lawsuit. So the first doctor who went in there tore up all the nerves on the right side of my face and. I can't I'm trying to think what, what Joe nail my lawyer. Former neighbor. Yes. Indeed, right. Down the street. All right. So keep in mind, this place is Don highway forty it's a most surgery clinic. M O, H S, and most surgery is you're in a room with a bunch of people. Everybody has gowns on and shit, and they take you gonna room and they have like eight rooms and the doctor goes from room for room to room chopping, stuff off people faces knows it's, you know, it's, it's degrading but, and then they take the specimen immediately downstairs to a lab, and it takes forty five minutes, then they come back up, and they say you're fine. We, it's not outside. The margins is the medical, okay? So if you go in for let's say a cancer spot. To be cut out if it's the size of a BB, they'll probably cut out size of a quarter. So normally, you say, you're okay, or the first two times, you're okay I want he had me come back six times. Wow. So I'm gonna show you a picture, and hopefully your stomach can take this. You gotta dig deep here. This is what he allowed me to leave the office with. Okay. This is it's pretty crazy. Now, you have to keep in mind, I'm gullible. He's telling me everything's okay? I may have hit a nerve or something. You know, come back tomorrow, and we'll take care of everything. And so. Which one is it a may have hit her may have hit a nerve now? And you know what? He he, he thinks he's making me feel okay about her. Sure. I'm really very. Yeah. You know, you're, you know you are who you are. And you're in fact, I did so much research on this, that this is the guy I chose because of his resume. Here it is. I'm flying through. Okay. You could stick a tennis ball in their oh by God. You're gonna look pizza sided to look. Oh my God. So that. I was curious. But we're looking at the if you're facing Brian the side of Brian's, head to the right of your ear I would. So you're saying that's the size of a tennis ball. Fall in it, and it would fit halfway. Oh my God. Now I own your head. I mean, mitre whole, like like I can see bone. I think so. I didn't know it. So, because you're not he gave me twenty at twenty eight so you walked out like that. Oh, yeah. I twenty eight locals I couldn't feel anything. I also couldn't move my eye or my lip. He grabbed my head in a like an ace bandage, and so he said. Don't go to the hospital tonight, if it starts bleeding, or your pain. Here's my cell number. I'll meet you. I'll meet you back here now being as Goebel as I am. I thought this fuckers the best doctor on earth. He's going to get up in the middle of the night, and come back. Well, and then it led to. Let's have had seven to nine surgeries. I'm trying to remember this was my well you I think you've seen me a couple of times since then. So, so, luckily, the doctors from Barnes and wash U forty-eight hours later, had me in for surgery separate physician here. Yeah. We're done with this other doctor was not affiliated with them. I wanna make sure not associated with BJ see or wash u or site mint or Barnes. So ten hours later, I'm at Barnes. I'm never been. I never spent the night in a hospital and they did a four hour exploratory surgery because they didn't know what he did, if he got all the cancer. How will these nerves have been cut, so ten they stuck this hockey puck thing in my face and I walked around for a week with that my and what that's doing is that it's clogging up. But it's it's it's it looks like a hockey puck and it looks like a hockey puck Mialich ones. Put great taper. Absolutely. I walked around for a week with that because they didn't know what to do. So. That was, you know what when it got really scary was on Wednesday. He cut me and did whatever he did. And by the way, doctors, make mistakes. It's what he did it after the mistake. And I can't get into that legally. It's what he did after the mistake that shame on him. Okay. So when, when will this, a legal issue, be I don't know? I got to see my lawyer here not chill Joe's. I always say Joe because Tim and I know. No know you lose to another doctor or a lawyer. So I have that surgery. And I just remember I woke up the next morning. I'm like. Fettered anymore and make Barnes, and it was just like crazed. Like what what's going on here? So that was just the first surgery. Are you in horrible pain while this is going on, so met it up that you don't I don't I don't like taking opiates and stuff like that. So I try to I try to man up and I do have a high tolerance for pain. I'm not bragging. Some people do some people don't. Mostly on little Heidrick road on I know it sounds dumb, but I'd probably have a beer couple beers, instead of I don't like taking pills. I guess, so I had to go through four other surgeries after that. And then I had the big one, which was a nine hour surgery where they took tendons out of my leg and put my it's I think they've only done this operation three times ever, they head to put almost every nerve together, it's like wiring, you know, in the house, and it took nine hours three hundred stitches, then I had radiation. I'm in my fourth bout with chemo, but I'm still fucking standing here because you don't what you make a choice earlier, either going to be the bugger the windshield. You know, you're either going to be the victim or the Victor, and the best thing for me was my main surgeon, Dr Schneider Warwick, who's just a wonderful, wonderful doctor. She. She's just she put my fucking face back together. I mean I don't know how she did it. It's it's seriously. And they had five five surgeons in there during the surgery. And I just remember I woke up the next day. And first of all, I'd never been cath before. Kath meeting catheters. Yes. Uh-huh. So I went in the bathroom p and I had to rip it out of my dick how and that that was worse than anything. No, you know what was what was worse peon. Right. After that. So, luckily, the other surgery, I've had I've had when they have to cap me, I'm under. And then you think about the nurses, you know, grabbing your crank and. You're laying there plucking ball throwing impressive. Whole in ear. Got around, but no. So the best thing is her office is at children's hospital. So every appointment, I would go to I was the only adult patient. So I still remember the first time I'm getting off king's highway highway forty turning left to go to children's hospital for a checkup and I started crying because I looked in my rear view mirror. And my face was completely mauled. I had faced palsy. My, my ride is still as the I can't I lost all the nurse on top of my head. He cut myself very gland. I don't have that on the right side of my face anymore. Really, as you can see he took part of my ear. I have like a gully on my ear when he was doing this understood. It was it was he trying to remove skin cancer, is that was going on this. Yeah. And what it is is this going to be like a standard when you were going to do procedure where you were you thinking 'cause I mean of people have had skin removed, especially rank and mix like us. But he yes, he was do you didn't think when you were going into now. Yeah, I guess you're right. So I have a one in a million, if it's called an infiltrating, aggressive basal cell cancer. This cancer is doing. Is it wraps itself around nerves and, and it was headed towards my brain written instead of most, most can cancer goes to the surface, you know, then most skin cancer, basically, superficial basal cell carcinoma, but this was a really weird type of cancer going towards my brain. So I remember walking into children's hospital feeling a little pity party for me. And I sat down and within the first two minutes, I looked around and saw these kids. And when I say kids, I'm talking nine months old, two years, old, six years old with, with, with horrific cancer, and that was I tell you dude that was the Pitney the awakening, I'm like died today. Dude, you live the good life. And I've always, I've always, I'm like, you, you know, you're blessed, you have a great family. Great y kid. I mean. Good friends, you're doing what you love for living. You know, you went balls out and sports radio and do different things instead of just caving in like ninety five percent of the people. So you and I are lot alike in that whereas, I just went okay, and I'm not kidding. This all started when I walked up Saint Gabes your former grade school, and I was having a rough time in my life. And I don't go to church, but I do go up there and pray once in a while. So walked up to the cross started dropping bombs says dude, you gotta give me some throw me a crumb throw me anything. I need a sign that, that meat coming in here mixed difference to you in the cancer turned out to be the difference. Well, and then he I didn't hear a voice in my head, but I felt him saying, okay. Now you have to do with it. Don't be a little pussy. So I ramped up my charity work. And I made that part of my rehabilitation program. I know I'm so glad I didn't know the background on it because considering what you're going through. And then I feel like I see like you're doing so many different things in what is what is the phrase, you always five attract. Absolutely. Well, it's so true. Yeah, there's, you know, and I see that I'm like, man, you're, you're exactly right. Well it's one hundred percent. True, but eight years ago, my therapist. Yes, they went to therapy fucked you. Affect you. Go to bigger wanted building don't move to Montana. So that kind of fucked me on my guy. Yeah. Doug sambol. Listing in Montana. But we would do FaceTime, and it just wasn't the same. And then, you know, and I didn't even really need therapy after a certain point, I just like dropping shit on people who aren't in my everyday life. You know what I mean? I can always call one of my buddies, and my twin brother and my family, but so Doug moved to Montana, but the this was a turning point in my life. So if you've ever been to therapy. Oh, yeah. I gotta tell you what absolutely. The worst thing in therapy is when their silence. I what I worry about when I've had it and I love it. I think it's healthy is can be I think it's a healthy thing. I know it sounds kind of almost counter dude. But I think it's healthy, I, I've had people where I'm like this. This person is incredible. And then I'm like, oh my gosh, this person's not paying any attention. I felt like that's the worst. I'm like, oh my God. I'm pouring my heart out here in this person's not in. So I guess there's just thinking you know, hey, this guy's by my fucking. My new motorcycle. So when there's such a you had silence. What was going on with the silence, you think he asked me to think about something? And I forgot what it was. And what did he say? He said, first of all, I'll fuck I'm getting chemo cramp in my dream. What's the what's the chemo? I don't even what, what happens you get you get cramps all over your body. If just like Charlie horses all over. Yeah. But I get him in my calf my knees the Beckham my neck and it just it's just a little movement. Like I hydrated all day long and it's just coming from the gym. I mean go every morning, no matter what even if I have to go, you know, do some Hershey squirts into toilets or throw up, I go, because that's all I'm gonna start my day, not feel better later in the day. So I go in the morning. So Doug sitting there you asked me. Give s on your chest. It's like what are you talking about? He was fucking superman. You can only fix yourself. You can't fix other people, and I said, how do I make my life better? And he goes three words Brian eliminate the bullshit. Now we're near the end of our session of three minutes ago. I, I you know, I check the clock out, I didn't have any time out. So I said, what's my bullshit? And he said, you'll know by our next session, or the one after that, and, you know, who I was surrounding myself with, and I looked at certain things I was doing in my life and the first thing I did was, I got rid of just people who weren't really friends hangers-on and just people who just wanted something. I mean, I'm sure you've had a few of your life, and even like relationships, you know, it's up to you to make it better. But if it's not, I know married people who've been in their relationship for ten twelve years, who have been miserable for eight years. And so it's just it was pretty simple. It only it was almost like now, I just think of a situation. Eliminate the bullshit. We started our charity. The vibe tribe. We're turning. It wasn't a five oh one. So we've been doing that. And we have a couple of events coming up, senators one big event June twenty third. We're getting together with exists fitness store in South County are fitness center in South County and one in Arnold. Stephanie both, which is the vice president, and they're going to put on a five K run for the vibe tribe, and we're gonna raise money. It's not about bitch, another another one for two kids one's will our who is I believe, a senior at Limerick high school soccer player. He is recovering from leukaemia, and then we have Charlie Morgan who was a volleyball player at Viana and he's got he's got a rough road going on right now. So we're going to raise money for that last weekend, we raise money for girl recovering from leukemia and Washington's dairy, and we're going to give her a bedroom makeover. She doesn't know that it's going to happen. Just I love doing that now. But that that's become San necessarily brand new. You've been doing this Friday while, but this is now is what you did, like you know, this Nottingham. School up to. Yeah, then, of course, absolutely buddy of mine, ROY Monty was the coach and athletic director there, and it's a it's a public school for developing disabled, students fifteen fourteen to twenty one so they can go there for seven years, ninety percent of them are African American probably seventy to eighty percent of them. Don't have fathers, you but you also have down syndrome students and all that. So ROY invited me up one day and he said, hey, I told him I know a radio guy and they all freaked out and I said, well, they're not going to know him. He goes, they don't care. I was hooked from the day there I was going to gym class with playing jump rope playing ping pong. Now, ROY is gone. He went to be a principal somewhere else. So I go to the classes, and I sit down on the classrooms and just these kids, all they want is hoping love hoping love, I I it's almost selfish, Tim. I feel like a rockstar when I walk in there, like, Brian, Mr. McKenna, we do this with me. Will you do this with me? Or how are you feeling? I'm you can't even. I sometime I'll take a gopro in there, and to show you, there's a hug every ten feet. I went to their prom two weeks ago on Friday, the prompts at twelve thirty during the day. The only time I can why can't dance. But it's the only time I dance sober. So the walk is at the five k fun run, walk June twenty third Jefferson barracks. Go to exist dot com, and we're just gonna raise money and there's gonna be tons of stuff for kids. And I think the bubble house will be there and you know, and it's not competitive. I mean you can be competitive, but it's really just fun. I'm going to raise money. That's the sort of mazing. I mean just considering what you're going through, and then what you were doing while going through it. I mean, it's my drug is it is. It's the thing that gets you. I, I was I almost hyperventilating last set last Friday, Friday night last night. We had a fundraiser for this little girl, who's recovering from leukaemia. And so we were raising money for her bedroom makeover. We're getting them some killer. Bunk beds from IKEA, but I got so Jack and I want to mention Brian Kessler, also who's a Maplewood firemen, what partners in this? And so. I I'm just like so Jackson. All these people Trump thirty six hours. Okay. We just decided to do it last Thursday morning at about eight o'clock, and we said, we need to raise at least a thousand dollars within thirty six hours bunch of people showed up the nine pub we watched the blues game. And we raised over a thousand dollars day. We'll get him some dressers and stuff like that. And this is just all people basically, in the nine neighborhood doing this trying to blow this thing up your relationship with the neighborhood. Which, you know, I mean you now how long have you lived right there? I don't need to give out the ad. No better minutes by Francis park on one side of the frame buying Jameson prior to that. That's right. Yes, I lived on moved up and down. I been in the neighborhood since ninety four five. I mean you have a I love that neighbor. I just love that neighborhood. It's one of those, like, like my wife's like okay we're going to you don't even know where I went to grade school. We don't call it trades will own middle school elementary school. And we're going to go to your. And you're all excited because your school your grade school picnics. Two days this year. She goes, this is so, but at the same time she goes, and he goes people, I mean, she loves the people love count counties say, L Kennedy fungal Belkin, who's a regular caller, fifty fifty. I mean it's unbelievable. And you now have this relationship with that neighborhood. I don't I don't know how I don't even know what the right way to describe it. I feel like you're like a hero of the neighborhood, you know, like people know to come out your place. Right. And you've got your mannequin out there and the kids seem to just just great. I love the neighborhood. And I think that they, they love, you know, every morning, I have my coffee on my balcony and all the kids walkabout. What's up Brian? What's up? Many. They say hi to the mannequin everything, you know, not having kids to it's almost like with my nieces and nephews. I was most of the time the favorite uncle because I wasn't a dad. So, dan. I know what you're saying and two kids, I helped coach a couple of teams. Yeah. I did. I helped Cal and who else was coaching. There Tim Turner was coaching, and we won the city championship. I blessed mother was on the team Mullen, son, Mark Mullen was the point guard. God bless but it's just such a great neighborhood. It is man. It's the best, but they I mean, what you have been through over the last, I didn't realize it was five years. I knew it's been a while. But then, you know I mean and then but then that's one thing that's brutal. But then to take that and then turn it into what you've done with charity. You know. And I mean, certainly some people are aware of it, but not a lot of I mean I just I just, you know, if you were going through that and just like I'm just gonna kinda shut it down and try to get healthy people go. God bless. I totally understand. But the but you're doing something that selfless if everything were going, right, much less with what you've had to deal with. But I keep him on a head idle time. The worst thing you can do when you're diagnosed with anything is just let it get to you right away. So I'm I've been trying to live a normal life, the last four or five years, people say, how do you go out and drink here? And I said, you know what if I feel good, I'm going out if I wanna go out if I don't I'll stay in. But, you know, your, your mind is your strongest muscle on getting them. I told you getting back to children's hospital that day walked interchange, my life to see those kids change, because, you know you make it a tour children's hospital. But when you're sitting in there and you're seeing a nine month old baby with cancer, and what these people are going through when I was in radiation, there was this little girl, she was ten years old, and people from all over the country, come to sight and Barnes, and that, and this little girl lives, right outside of Chicago, and she had her hair, purple, and I was talking to your parents, and I said, you know, your hair's purple, that's kind of cool. And she said my mom said, I could do this. You know, and I was I didn't think she was going to let me and I started school in six weeks, and she was all excited. So she goes back for her radiation. And I said, so how she doing? She said they told us yesterday. She has six months to live. So this, this little girl, had no idea, but she was just happy that day pretty incredible. It really it was the ultimate bitch slap. I said, they should have Missouri law over over twenty one you can't drink. But once every two years, you have to take a tour of children's hospital but not just the tour. I mean, get to know some of the kids how about Leyla Leyla. Anderson has taken this. Yeah. And it's so in her personality and why Kirk her camera presents for gee, I don't know if you've seen the blues such a hell videos. Yes. Yeah. The interview she did having kind. Thoughts on, you know, going up against your former teammate, you basically goes, wow. Good question. Yes. He's the most. Enter delivery. I'm like, wow. She really. I mean it's an incredible thing. Truly is an incredible thing. And that's you know, I mean, I knew you had stories and you're gonna tell them in an entertaining fashion. But I have great amount of respect for dealing with what you're dealing with which I can't begin to understand, and then handling it and taking this, you know, incredible adversity, and then turning it into as much of a positive as you can't impacting people in such a positive way. It's, it's, it's beyond Admiral. Well, my dad was the former director of public welfare, and he always made us realize, you know, act upon the Neath of others. Your true currency is basically the effect you have on others in the company, you keep and. He he always made us to my mom and dad made us do charity work, and your little, you don't wanna do that stall really did. Yeah. We'd have to. That stuff now that I have a one year old just maybe kind of setting a tone early on. Yeah. Now because of all the technology, you know, it's going to be on that at ten ten person Irish Catholic family doing charity were no money. Now. You're never you're out there doing charity. We feel guilty about being old money. This is out there. This is this the way we're being raised. And that's where the vibe attracts. You're trying to, you know, comes into comes into play I'm blessed. I know people some people may think I'm phony. I don't give two shits. I'm plus you don't want. If everything else fails, I still have my faith my family, my friend on what the fuck else do I need, you know, no more cash? I understand that I get that. But plice good. I have no complaints whatsoever. Anytime I talk with you, text. I'm just like this guy. God bless them. I mean, I'm you know, I'm just I'm just truly the word is inspiring. I know what that's almost feel like it's cliche, but I'm just I'm just like God. I don't know how you do it. But you do it and people really, I think now understand, and appreciate the selfless nature amount. You're doing. It's contagious. And other people have inspired me so let Layla Anderson. I so wanted, just meet her. I know. Yeah. She hasn't me the proverbial it factor. Like I'm just like, oh, I feel terrible for this girl. It's brutal. Obviously, she's gotten close to chase brought Stein into the room and it made a very emotional. But then they put her in front of the camera, when she's ringing the bell, and like delivering lines. And I'm like, oh my God. This is like an actress is like a young girl street with a combination of Erin Andrews when she's doing sideline interviews, this girl's got all kinds of things going on and the city's rallied around her, and I imagine the blues have rallied around or not just because what she's dealing with the because her care wrong and just amazing. Yeah. I hope I helped the blues win for many reasons Bobby players up there. But I, I really hope they win for her. Can you imagine that all of our hearts and you imagine that? I mean it's, it's, it's an incredible thing. Well, this is I knew it'd be good. I knew it'd be entertaining but it was even better than that. It was like I said, Brian, it's inspiring. I really admire at thank you so much for coming in. And telling you I appreciate what you do. Because you know you do what you wanna do you do what you love to do. And you've built this brand that successful, both content wise because, you know, I don't like to do. Just sports talk radio. I couldn't but also revenue, but you've given a lot of younger guys opportunities to, but you made it fun. Interning can really suck at a radio station. If you just keep the kids board. Now my advice is I always thought I told Iraqi rocky. Oh, great one big fan just pass us here. Outstanding here. He's like his mom comes up to me saying gay fitness. Hey, Matt graduated he wants to do this, and I said, yeah. Have a meet me. And so we met up at the bread company, and I said, he goes, what's your advice? They don't do this. Ask him. He'll tell you say the same talking about forty five minutes telling him don't I remember him the same thing when I was in Missouri's, like I like I wonder if he's as gonna give me all fires? Yeah, I wouldn't really get. I would I gotta tell you wouldn't do this, and I go whoa. Calling card you'll games right now hosted a show. I mean what the hell in Doug says the same thing, but we're lottery winners? You and I talked about this right before we started the podcast, you got up this morning, how many how many people in the city of Saint Louis, but is it three three million three point while whatever it is. And how many got to talk about the blues game the biggest number one story of the night. The greatest blues game in history. And if one. Who was lucky enough to talk about that five. I could tell you your show always doesn't five but I could tell you guys were so Jack morning like like this is just great because this is we live for this. This this, this is it is Dave Murray's. He's just waiting for the last, you know, when when Kim Kent Erhard at channel four, when that son of a bitch starts rolling up sleaze. You know what's game? I'm watching shit going down. It's a thrilling thing. I mean, they have that to know people care about it, and then the boys gangster, Pete here and Iggy and plow. Boy, they just start rattling off the guests. And they're back there grinding on more guests. And I know that we did a good show that lived up to the moment, and the expectation of the audience. That's, that's a, that's a threat. It's an it's an exactly. Because I know it means so much to so many people, and I always say it's like I'm, I'm April and may and now I guess, June holy shit. I'm all in on the blues, but I know guys like you know, a lot of people, whether they'd be in the lower bowl or upper bowl have been grinding through and looking forward to this shit knocked Tober of, you know, even two thousand sevens. And that's who I I'm like, oh, this is great. I got to be there with my wife and my dad, and I'll never forget, right? But the people who've been going to those games and Karen about a game against the blue Jack tonight, Tober couldn't even fuck and tell you who's on the blue jackets. I couldn't think of I think about those people and I you keep going back to Bobby player Kelly chase and what it means because I just know it means something to, and then those guys, I was so cool. But the interviews you were doing with them and like Frank was all the players are mentioning the season ticket holder. They hold it. Yeah. I mean it's like, yeah he's thrilled. But they're thinking there's cognizant of that. And that's the thing it's like I'm going the cardinals won. I mean, that was like the whole reason I got into this stuff. But you know, I don't know how to describe it for these guys. This is like their life's death west. This is it and the next two weeks. I mean, no matter what at this, this, this two thousand nineteen will live in history for, for for, I mean Frank forever. But if they get it done, it's kind of like the guys who went to the cubs to say you know what? We're gonna take a chance on being. Yeah. Being the ones that, that did this thing. And that's the thing I talked about with the with the blues fans, yet it won't get as much attention as the cubs are Red Sox. But unlike the cubs, a Red Sox fans round here have been getting their stomachs kicked in every year from eighty three two thousand four and then every year minus last year from twelve through. Yeah. Through nineteen and usually it's not with like oh, they got lost in five games. It's like oh, there's John Casey. Steve is Roman. You know, there's Turco and Owen Nolan. There's they're usually like horror story end. And then for these people to get this experience here with the Saint Louis and getting the goal against the stars and beat the Ryan that, you know, getting totally fought in hand pad. And then they keep coming back. I mean it's just I'm just so happy for so many people man, Doug even raise the point this morning about, they don't have a hall of Famer on that team now. Maybe maybe he could be. You would think that that's certainly in play. It's great that he's having such a. Yeah. You can you can do that. Now, I don't know this. It's just it's, it's the best. It's the best. Here's another cool side of the story. First of all, I'll tell you, I if you're asking me, who I think's going to win this series, I'm taking Boston, and it's not the only there are several reasons one they were the better team during the regular season. They have home ice advantage. They have the rest. Now the Stansell tell you against the rest. I last night, they were six the last six Stanley Cup winners had less rest than their opponent. I'd like both teams are gonna have a shit. Right. Right, goaltending, I think right now the way the goalies are planning to coin. Toss Rask has the experience. Just don't you think about shit like hat on real at dudes on real play poker? I, I. I'm uncomfortable. I know you've talked about your man, crushes, yes. This is mine, and it's really really getting uncomfortable. But I hope I'm gone. I you know what I I would be so happy to be wrong. But I just think I just think the Bruins are better hockey club. That's it. Yeah. No, I understand, man. I mean, that's it's like it's just you look at the roster and you're just like wow that's that's that's littered with talent and experience in the state. What do you think of the experience with Stanley Cup experience? Because the blues have one guy, I was staying with Iran front and that was your last year. Yep. That's it. I don't I don't know if I don't either it matters. I just I just think this is a different. It's kind of, like, I don't know what you were thinking the night of the hand pass, but I'm like I came in here because Pete Knight used the same guy for wagering. And I said, I see, we don't have the option of betting the blues winning and six because I would bet the blues winning and six you could bet the blues winning in seven, right? Sharks winning in five six or seventy the I'm just, like, I think they're just going to take this, and then they see Carlson going on. It wasn't handball was a fair. Out there and just go Kate Faulk him. He got the. Vira hand passed. And there's little balk. They're gonna beat the hell out of these guys on Friday. They did beat them. They didn't beat the hell out of them. They did beat the hell out of the next two games. They just were a better team if I were ranking their opponents so far, by the way, I would rank it stars jets sharks. I know that sounds kind of weird because the sharks ones that got there. But the stars were the battle, we'll take a look at the last three games though how the blues outscored eliminating. Gotta be crazy staff teen to, to think if I'm doing math properly, I just think of the city I mean, what it does bring us all together. It does all my God. People were just in heaven last night. It was a great moment. The city needs at the region. We need it. You know. And people are fired up. It's so thrilling to see I'm so happy for so many. I really am. I just want to tell the twenty to twenty eight year old males all right? Do something different if we win the Stanley Cup and other cities don't tip cars and burn shit down the city that need that it. Okay happen. You'll get laid. Yeah, I'm on a quest for lesbian, every moment. There are plenty Morley flex flexible drunk chicks. There will be that night. Where's my job waiting to her until the next morning make no mistake about that? Hey, we could go on for. Thanks so much for having me on. Store. Yeah. And it's been incredible. I loved it. Brian McKenna, thank you so much. All right. So there is our conversation with Brian McKenna here on the Tim mckernan show, presented by Mark Hanna of evergreen wealth strategies. He's online at evergreen asked heal dot com. And then you have Ryan Kelly, the home loan expert dot com. 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The Lake Show
"The parade with a fake coup. Why those people getting all that? You quite a lot more people person that we thought and also nine inches shorter. The other big news of the weekend. Golf class national battle. I you'll go up. Let's go. Also raid way to straight not really. The monopoly on that doesn't it? That second massive risks and rewards behind this, Anthony Davis trade Ramona Shelburne, ESPN RA. What else do they do this, how it all went down? And what's next, the ringers Kevin O'Connor reporting, the Lakers taking a run lead, not that why letter the real letters I the trade Frank solo who wins this? Well, in the short term the Lakers want it. Because when you have LeBron James on your team, you have to go for it. Let's not remember. Kevin durant. Klay Thompson probably not gonna play next season. This opens it up for everyone in the Western Conference three four, five years from now. I don't know who's going to be on Anthony Davis his team. But for right now, the next two years, it's a win, which Danta. Absolutely. It's the Lakers. You have shot clock. Basically, LeBron James as far as prime concern you need to take full advantage of that situation. And by the way, Anthony Davis, we're at that stage where we're starting to question him. And hey, you've been in the league six or seven years how long before you actually get some playoff wins. So I think for all of this being said, and all that being said about the draft picks and compensation, you pay the piper later reality, that's the deal Tim Cal showed, as symbols f- for you, too. It's pretty simple. There's three reasons like when this trade one when you're doing a blockbuster, you wanna be the one getting the star and not the stuff, even if the stuff was pretty good here. You want to as Franks, during LeBron's time there, you know, maybe that's a three four year window. The first year was a complete wash. You got to do something and do it quickly. And I'm gonna give them credit for hanging on to Kyle. Kuzma, good player that a lot of thought they would just throw in, as, as here, taking, we'll give you whatever you want. They were they managed to. That's three for the Lakers Clinton Yates, you're gonna make unanimous not quite I think the Lakers win this battle. But they've already lost this war. Let's not forget, why they're in this position to begin with the train that didn't happen year cratered, the entire season, all the people that were joining LeBron did not work out. And they missed the playoffs wide open. For over already there, the Lakers were not there. Now. We have to find a whole lot more to make sure that they are not just one player. I don't care how since we're focusing so much on the Lakers side. Let's stay there for second and Georgia in Los Angeles, who deserves the credit from the Lakers side. Why did this happen now and not six months ago? I think Rich Paul, I think Rich Paul and LeBron James. And that group, they learn from the mistakes that they made in February, and I think that they really helped create this situation rob Pelinka is still a novice GM. And look some of the details as we've seen it's been reported could come back to bite them. So I'm giving all the credit to Rich Paul getting this. Bustle. George. I love you last week. I said this is about one player one team. It's about rich. Paul trying to Anthony Davis LeBron James and the Lakers and you told me, I'm nuts. He cares about all of his clients. Of course. That's what it's about. And I'll tell you this since late April. All we heard and saw for our selves was had just functional. The Lakers are now they look a little bit different to their Kluge. I'm going back to you is needed. You there. He doesn't have the power doesn't have the capability, but please respond. There's a difference between you saying that this is all about Rich Paul that it's vanity plates and ego play. No, he absolutely did right by his client, both its clients in this particular, instance. So. And by the way, him, actually pulling the strings and having a relationship with David Griffin when allegedly according to reports, he wouldn't even pick up the phone and Rupp. Linka was calling here until the fourth time. That's on Rich Paul. You just heard with Frank said of relationship with David Griffin that goes back to LeBron goes David Griffin owes championship to LeBron years ago. Tim Keller you wanna weigh in here? I do think Magic Johnson deserves a small amount of a couple years ago. He said he was gonna. Star's there. And he had to get the first star there. If LeBron is there, this trade is an so you think it's magic and magical. So it's winning about Jeanie Buss being in play here for some critical and Yates. Are you gonna be laughed at me? When I said that unintentionally this would be magic legacy was getting out of the way in order for Davis to go to LA is stupid as it says the problem is this who deserves any credit when the Lakers have proven, nothing about whether or not a word. Still a huge project. Classic argument from Clinton Yates as stupid as it sounds. I love you. Good. Is this team right now? Georgia Donald this LeBron Davis team. They're the best team in basketball because they have two years on the Rossler wining. Visit the rest of that roster's easier fill out once you've got those kind of pieces. There's not a team in the NBA right now that has to top six play when we left, just seventy two hours ago at lake at the Lakers being the one in Vegas number-one is it is played out that way in just three days for you. George. The hard part is getting the stars in this league reality. It's easier to fill the void after everybody fill the void. Georgia data saying the Lakers the best even basketball Callen shoppers. Oh. Yeah. He said the only team with two of the top six teams. That, that's all they have is those two players. They don't have any. I mean they kept coups. Give them that, but they're a long way from proving things LeBron going into year. Seventeen Davis who's had a lot of injuries in his career. Let's see healthy, and let's see what else is Tim. Let's not act like the pelicans are making long playoff runs wick Davis. I understand he's a great player. But I'm not just gonna plug him in an assume that all of a sudden the team becomes that much better to the point that I think the best team in the that's right guy sold. Yeah. I think the smog and LA is getting the George right now. The best team. I mean, they haven't made the playoffs for six straight years, and you're making see Mike. Anthony Davis, makes these long playoff runs. He has a history of injury problems. I have faith in the Brown. James now is the Braga play in seventy games. How many games is Anthony Davis going to play the rockets Portland, Denver still right? You guys are probably Georgia little bit. It is defense. They do have of the best six players in the NBA, which historically has been a good thing, although not exactly the season, after we saw with Toronto, just acquiring quiet and how that turned into a championship. Speaking of the run, they could make quite do you believe it's possible? You believe it's real George how likely the idea of third max type guy filling out this roster or with the Lakers, be better serve thrilling. The roster giving themselves events. Really? I don't think it's very likely that Hawaiians up a Laker. I'd be stunned if that were the case. But if he did indeed wanna be a Laker. He's the one guy that I would say go with the three stars and then fill out the rest with veteran minimums, and the mid level, exemption. If you can't get Kawai, then fill out the roster with some good shooters with some guys who could defend those type of role players of the guys you'd want. If you can't get wouldn't make a run at Kemba Walker. That's that's the other name. We've heard a quite a bit that no gates. You're not. Yes, you would, I would I think Kemba Walker even though not necessarily as good of an overall player Esco, I would fit better with that LeBron AD blend personally, but they have a real decision to make whether to give that money to anybody, or you fill out that bench, which, again is the original problem, why I don't have that much faith in how problem with the Lakers and it was the problem with the warriors just as pass finals. Right. Not having a bench. Frank Sola would should the Lakers. Do here. Do you believe qu is a possibility? Well, if you can get quite Leonard by all the history proven that I've seen with while the brand James, Anthony Davis, you kidding me. But the Clintons point about Kemba Walker. Remember something else about him. He's a very durable player plays in a lot of games could score. And if Kemba Walker is going to be your third best player. Pretty good. Kawhi Leonard just wanna title by being the guy on a specific team. I hardly think he's excited to go play for less than the maximum and be part of the little baby. But he's gonna play go to LA yourself when you're trying to predict what's going on with qui-. Didn't we learn that that's been the entire store the last year? George just from financial standpoint. What's possible here. How much money is available to Lakers. Can they do? If this deal is consummated on July six reality, they're only going to have just under twenty four million dollars. That would be a huge faux pas by rob Pelinka and company. They didn't get this deal to be consummated on July thirtieth. And by the way, Anthony Davis, also has a trade clause, basically, an incentive that he can wave that's up to four million dollars. So they can create space that way. But if the deal is in concentrated by the six that's the bigger issue here and that doesn't get them to a third player. And that's why we were saying third max tight player, maybe Kemba Walker takes less. Maybe another player takes. All right. Let's talk about the pelicans side of this now because this is interesting as well. I would say for this pelicans roster now. Lonzo ball. Brandon Ingram Zion coming in what can they accomplish Frankie? When it start there. Well, great job. I David Griffin getting a lot of assets. I agree with Tim, they'll cow kouzmines perfect player. Good job by the Lakers, keeping them with David Griffin is done. And he learned a lot of stuff from a good buddy his dating collecting assets right now. The rebuilding they'll have the number one pick on next Thursday in the draft or this Thursday, it'll be on Williamson. They're rebuilding buys himself time. I think it was a great deal. And let's not get crazy about collecting asset has not exactly worked out well for Boston considering version, we're talking about right now. I think probably gotta go for if you trade that pick for somebody all star type player, perhaps a Bradley Beal, they getting, I'm just saying that you can get a team that I put together and not make the playoffs. We'll certainly do you see that happening trading? The number four pick, you gotta be wiser, if you can get a player of the caliber of clear like the one, I mentioned, I think you do. But otherwise using gravity Bill should be object of their affection here, Tim Keller show. You wanna win. Yeah, I would agree with Clinton there. I think if they can move him for a viable starter guide. You know about right away. They'll do that Ingram is a good player. Is still think Lonzo ball can become a good player shooting is the one element of the game. We've seen guys get substantially better. Jason Kidd's through his career. And that's really what lacking. So I mean, even if we said the Lakers won the deal, David Griffin, did a great job collecting as much as you possibly or sedan usually stars are traded for pennies on the dollar that wasn't the case here. Clearly we love Lonzo ball, the potential for all these alleyoop with Zion. Brandon Ingram is an emerging wing player. Josh Hart is a good complementary type player and no one's talking about the picks the picks or the things that could turn into turn into a treasure chest, potentially for them all during zion's prime and LeBron potential decline or even retirement. Give me the pelicans. Just ballpark. Of course, not knowing what they're doing with the number four take. Thirty eight. Four. Forty two. Forty one looking calicoes face seems seems seems so confident himself and how he takes are one. Had gone into Tim countless fitting, the golf clap is coming up in yourself. But if we're gonna focus on celebrations and clearly that's what we're going here with his real Thailand. Gle. How awesome was this to come back after thirteen nothing? Get one in your second every game. The reaction was incredible. Great fire sale next. Around the horn is brought to you by each rate. The original place to invest online. Shots, the three would on fourteen and the chip on the seventeenth green Tim start there. What was the best of those three shots? Well, it's got to be the chip there on the green. It's shot that most of are not allowed to practice. Off the course that we tried to the three would was great, if he puts that the bunker, he's still might get up and down for birdie that chips. The using the, the wedge on the green hitting the down slope that ball could shot off the green into the rough. I'm surprised that did. And he could add. I don't let golf Lovie, simple, optics. I'll say that does that show the best shot, I saw out of all that it was easily the best and there it is Clinton walked into our new band filter right there. And he's happy about it, and I'll get golfing day that we're guy. So what was the best shot? Tony was the three that he hit on fourteen. If you're in a championship that you have to go for Brooks kept without going to come back to you. I loved it. It was almost like an opera got will be where KEPCO was chasing him but he was playing front of him. So the whole time you thinking maybe he can catch him. It didn't happen. I thought that shot up fourteen was shorts. I think it was the chip at seventeen even you could chip at seventeen to be honest with you remind especially from the especially from the green thought that was strange to see it actually happen. And by the way, special shadow to him. And he's one of the most wildlife guys on tour. Everybody was there on eighteen to celebrate him. And also one more shot up to Kirk Hinrich who woodland said forced him to play golf, because he wasn't going to basketball at can't. We give shutouts now. Is that what we're doing? Nick said out sick. Go flack for that. All right. Cali- ticket back to watch a sedan, I down again, this is a rivalry showed up. Some of. I Sola we have a showdown, we have showed about celebrations, which Georgia's all in Frankie is no footloose dance in my town. Let's go parade versus parade. All right. Are we don't have to go anymore? We already did it yet. And then five more years, that was far to the rafters parade today. So we had the blues beret. We had the raptors parade. Of course, we didn't show fake why we showed him earlier in the show, George who did it better. I'm gonna go with the Saint Louis blues clearly bread hall was having a good time. There was a chinchilla at the parade hall is wearing Rick flair t shirt and Layla Anderson. The young lady with a immuno, rare immunodeficiency disease was also there at the parade with their own float. That was awesome. George Brett Hull is no longer on the team. It looks like who someone who bum rush the stage. This was a Toronto Raptors cholera, giving shout out the David Stott Amar wearing throwback Damon Stoudamire jersey five more years for Kawai Leonard. That's how you do a parental giving the north. I'm giving a point for Layla. I think that was wonderful for Saint Louis for me. Fake qui- fake qui- signing autographs. You want to cry. With the point, you want me to adding the league leader in home runs one, the old to about the judge stained back and to do. So Clint Frazier to go back to the minors. He called it a tough killed swallow and his reality Frank to the keys needing or being smart with Frazier. Adding three home, run championship champions, because Stanton is coming back. And of course, judge is gonna come back with the Yankees. Oh, it's too much about offense you need pitching lefty. Righty. That's what wins, not all. These home runs lefty, righty. However, you throw it Georgia's fluffy. So really look at the last three champions and major league baseball all been top three and home runs. The Yankees are adding to that treasure trove and here's the deal doesn't mean they can't add pitching before July thirty. Anybody gonna do anybody trade Frazier for pitching for Trevor Bauer passability Burr. They read that. That's the other part he George you. Well, I love dynamic taking in France to begin so he Mutegi over move Rockies Padres. It was ninety six sixteen twelve fourteen eight fourteen thirteen this weekend. Most combined runs and a four game series ever. Need to run George? Good Abed for baseball. It's always good people want offense reality, people wanna be entertained about baseball being boring. That was not by any stretch. It's way too much about Charlie Blackmon with fifteen hits point game series. That's the most since nineteen ninety. How about that for baseball that Mr. sedan celebrate that you hate fun you off and the face time to Frank is of thirty seconds. What we've talked so much about women's soccer. I wanna give a little shout after Christine elder cheese, the goalkeeper for Chile who didn't unbelievable job. She was the woman of the match against the US when I like about it, too, at hope solo, working for the BBC, We know she loves to be critical has celebrated two goalies Sydneysider born in jersey playing Jamaica. And now end ler goalkeeper hope solo. He was great job. I was screaming three not going to be ornament. Then we would've seen more celebrate is it's a right for your Frank. Twenty three and a half. Outbreaks tomorrow.
Full Episode: Wednesday, October 02, 2019
"Are you hiring with indeed. You can post a job in minutes set up screener questions. Then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today. Indeed dot com slash tonight. That's indeed dot com slash tonight tonight. The remarkable moments short time ago in court the hug moving so so many the sentencing just in the Dallas police officer found guilty of murder of killing an unarmed neighbor in his own apartment. She thought it was her. She says she face up to ninety nine years tonight. Sentenced to ten at legible for parole in five outrage outside the court but then this moment in court the shooting victims brother asking to hug the police officer also breaking tonight the deadly plane crash we have just learned at least seven dead. Dow Flames and smoke seen for miles at an airport in the northeast with the pilot reported just moments after take-off president trump unleashing tweeting while watching Democrats on live TV today saying they are ready to subpoena the White House for all it knows about the president's call with the quite as president the expletive the president used at what he then said before the cameras cameras tonight Bernie sanders hospitalized after suffering chest pains appearing to struggle on stage last night needing to sit down and the emergency heart procedure procedure that followed the record breaking heat tonight at what's right behind it Rob Marciano standing by the new body CAM video tonight after that controversial wrist what what you can hear police say as they lasted an African American suspects walking him through a town while they're on horseback and your money tonight. ATM Fees Retail go record high near the five dollar mark now the simple steps. You could take right now. This is ABC news tonight with David Muir good evening. It's great to have you with us here at Wednesday night that emotional moment in court in just a moment here but I what we have just learned after a deadly plane crash in the northeast at least seven seven people dead tonight smoke and flames could be seen for miles it was a world war two bomber carrying sightseers and take off from the second busiest airport in New England tonight what the pilot said moments after takeoff right before the plane then slammed into a warehouse it all happened in Hartford and ABC's. Johnson is on the scene in Connecticut tonight. You're the deadly crash rocking Bradley International Airport in Hartford just before ten. Am had crashed fire is whether it has a vintage world war two Arab seventeen bomber crashing as it tried to land just just after takeoff slamming into a de icing warehouse the plume of black smoke visible for miles that plainy own I not lined up with runway actually gonNA cry multiple fatalities in at least six injured taken to local hospitals including two firefighters at a member of the Connecticut Air National National Guard of the thirteen on the plane ten more passengers who paid to take the right and there were three folks aircraft's crew and there was another person on the ground in the warehouse according to flight aware the aircraft departed Bradley international at Nine Forty Eight. Am Eastern recent reach an altitude of about eight hundred feet but only two minutes later pilots telling the tower. They had a problem reason for going back before edging. We'd served that come into my associate who was waiting with me that the he just lost an engine and then you could hear sputtering and he wasn't climbing anymore. The bomber built to nineteen forty four eighteen. That remained was part of an educational tour across the country offering flights to civilians. This airplane was not just old. It was the ancient and so it's a real question for the FAA. How old is too old with Johnson with US live tonight from Bradley International Airport with as you're learning tonight there was another the incident involving this plane several years ago. David that's right in nineteen eighty-seven the same plane overran a runway while trying to land in Beaver Ver- falls Pennsylvania twelve people were on board three people injured in that incident as for this crash the NTSB go team on the ground right now investigating aiding the costs David Johnson leading off tonight with thank you and out of the race for twenty twenty and the alarming seen overnight Senator Bernie Sanders appearing to have trouble on stage and then the emergency heart procedure right after at Las Vegas Hospital. The presidential candidate appearing subdued at an event in Nevada last night asking for a chair saying it's been a long day. Sanders is seventy eight and tonight what he's now saying here's ABC senior national correspondent Terry Moran a warning Sign Bernie Sanders at a campaign event in Las Vegas last night apparently feeling worn out and asking an aide for help our favorite chair from amongst on how it's been a long day you not not long after the seventy eight year old sanders complained of chest discomfort and went to a hospital doctors discovering that one of senators arteries was blocked and they inserted two stents unblock it sanders has had a history of high cholesterol but no heart disease in the past. He is the oldest candidate in a race where the top three contenders are over seventy seventy and he'd be the oldest president elected sanders recently talking to Dr Oz about the demands the campaign a campaign trail is really not conducive suv to good health habits but what I try to do as much as I can walk on a walk and he's a famously hard running candidate as he showed against Hillary Clinton in two thousand he's sixteen but I think the secretary is right and that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails in Sanders can typically pack three or four vents into a day in multiple cities not missing a beat when he suffered a gash from a shower door last is march but he took a short break after the last debate in the United States of America. We are spending twice as much per capital on healthcare tonight. Sanders's Democratic rivals are wishing him a quick recovery. I know everyone here wishes him. Well wants to see him strong and back on the trail as soon as possible awesome and late afternoon Sanders tweeting his thanks for all the well wishes adding unfeeling good and always on message he noted he was lucky to have good healthcare adding Medicare for all of course across the spectrum tonight everyone pulling for Bernie Sanders and Terry. What are we next. for Senator Sanders any next steps. Have they revealed well. David you can tell from that tweet is spirits are good as campaign says his appearance has been canceled for now next steps this usually it means doctors. Tell us a couple of days in the hospital. Doctors will want to monitor them for a few weeks so expect him for now to be back on the on the campaign trail at some point with with the new issue to address. Perhaps David Terry Moran with US Tonight Terry. Thank you now to vet extraordinarily moment in a Dallas courtroom just a short time ago. The former Dallas police officer amber number Geiger had been found guilty of murder. She was facing ninety nine years in prison. She was sentenced to ten years eligible for parole in five Geiger shot and killed an innocent good man his own apartment. She said she thought she had walked into her own apartment. The victim's brother before the sentencing testifying about the loss of his brother and then asking the judge if he could do use something he asked to give that police officer a hug the two in an emotional embrace in front of that courtroom here is the moment everyone in the courtroom stunned for for the family of the victim. It was a moment showing the power of faith of forgiveness the jury than delivering their sentence. ABC's Marcus Moore leads off from Dallas the jury that convicted liquid Amber Geiger of murder for killing her neighbor tonight handing down their sentence ten years imprisonment and the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the teen years far or less than the possible life behind bars. The former Dallas police officer faced relatives of both John's family in tears. I forgive you his brother. The judge also hub Geiger and he did even the judge in tears the two consoling each other but outside the courtroom his mother lashing out at police. If I'M GEIGO was trained not to shoot in the hawks my son would be standing here today. The jury taking less than two hours to reach their decision Asian this after Geiger's mother took the stand during today's sentencing hearing asking for leniency she she can take his place but the former Dallas police officer officer facing new scrutiny after prosecutors entered into evidence text and social media posts some have described as racially insensitive including one with a dog owning friend the the owner telling Geiger the dog. Maybe racist. It's okay. The former officer replied. I'm the same tonight supporters of that former officer relieved as geiger occur prepares to spend years behind bars and marcus more with us live tonight again from Dallas that ten year sentence was far less than what prosecutors had been asking for David. They wanted twenty eight years at least twenty eight years old. Both of them would have turned on Sunday but now amber geiger could be up for parole after just five years but David that moment in the courtroom when John's brother hugged amber it was a moment of strength and of grace with the entire your country watching and then after that the judge gave amber a Bible David Marcus thank you we're gonNA move onto other news here tonight. President trump unleashing twitter and then in front of the cameras today after the Democrats in Congress said before the cameras themselves that they are prepared to subpoena the White House for everything it knows about President Trump's phone call with the president of Ukraine saying they are quote not fooling around in their impeachment investigation president trump firing back in real time as he was watching to using an expletive. Here's ABC's chief Blade House correspondent Jonathan Karl Today House Democratic leaders threatened to subpoena the White House for a trove of information related to president trump's efforts to have Ukraine investigate his political rivals. We're not fooling around here. Though we don't want this to drag on months and months and months which appears to be the administration strategy among those watching the president himself he fired off a furious tweet saying the democrats should be focused on building up our country not wasting everyone's time time and energy on bull but Democrats say if the White House doesn't hand over the information they want by the end of the week. The subpoenas will go out will you cooperate with units will always cooperate. This is a hoax. This is the greatest toque this is a fraudulent crime on the American people but we'll work together. We're shifty shift and Pelosi and all of them and we'll see what happens president is stepping up attacks on the still anonymous whistleblower who brought to light the phone call with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinski where president trump asked Alinsky to do us a favor and investigated debunked conspiracy theory about stolen democratic emails and also to investigate the business dealings of Joe Biden's son Hunter you look at the whistle blower statement and and it's vicious vicious the whistle blowers description of the phone call largely matches the record of the call released by the White House and the president it was asked about the call today in a joint press conference with the President of Finland but it was hard to get an answer. The question was what did you want presidents Alinsky to do about present Vice President Biden and his son Hunter you talking to me yeah. I was just a follow up of what I just ask. Sir You ready. We have the president of Finland Finland. Ask Him a question. I have one for my just wanted to follow up on the one that I asked you. which did you hear what you want? You hear me yet. Ask Him a question I will but it might have been you a long answer. Ask Ask this gentleman a question. Don't be rude no sir. I don't WanNa be rude. I just wanted you to have a chance to answer the question that I asked you everything. It's a whole hoax. The the president has said he wants to meet the whistle blower face to face cure phillips asked Speaker Pelosi about that. The president wants to interview the whistle blower. He says says it. He has the right to meet his accuser. Your response to President probably doesn't realize how dangerous his statements are when he says he wants to expose the whistle blower is and those who may have given the whistleblower that information later Speaker Pelosi told George Stephanopoulos she he believes the president is quote scared. I think the president knows the argument that can be made against him and he's scared George with Speaker Pelosi today more of that interview on and GM in the morning in the meantime John Live at the White House tonight and it was right here last night John as we came on the air you report at the State Department's Inspector General had asked to hold an urgent briefing living on Capitol Hill. That meeting happened today. What did we learn all the inspector general briefed members of Congress and the staff for about an hour according to our sources sources he turned over to the committee documents that had been gathered primarily by the president's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani these were documents related to various conspiracy theories that it's conspiracy theories related to Ukraine and various Democrats including Joe Biden Giancarl at the White Lighthouse John. Thank you next to the weather and heat records falling across the east tonight more than fifty all time October records tied or broken today and take a good look at the high temperatures as you need me to tell you you felt it today D. Ninety Philly Ninety Five New York City Ninety three degrees but here's the question what is right behind it meteorologist Rob Marciano tracking it all for us. Hey Rob I David. We've had some showers role as a precursor to the big changes coming tonight after those records tempers are going to drop a good thirty degrees tomorrow very reactive radar tonight not just here but across into the mid west with that slow moving cold front the rich the southeast holds unfortunately but pulses of rain in the eastern part of that fronts. GonNa sack South Long Island immoral so much cooler by good thirty degrees from Philly to Boston with some rain going to be on the miserable side definitely a big changes. The Southeast Ridge does not move though temperatures again into into the nineties heat indices up and over one hundred feeling a heat wave in August rather than October David beautiful sky there behind you. They'll rob. Thank you tonight next this evening the new body Cam Video Oh and a new perspective on that controversial arrest we have reported on here police officers on horseback leading an African American suspect through the streets of Galveston and tonight what you can now hear the officer saying on that body Cam here's. ABC's Stevenson really police in Galveston Texas. WHO've already apologized to the man you see here. Being taken into custody are now releasing police body camera video of this August third arrest that many are calling shameful more Jordan once you hear the officers on horseback talk about how this is going to look as they tie a rope to the hands of their black suspect and march through city streets coats tap embarrassments new forty-three-year-old Donald neely was living on the streets has a history of mental illness and kept showing up in an office building wearing a welding mask. Make them walk all of that for reasons. That still aren't clear the two arresting officers didn't call for a squad car car and instead walked the man through town creating a scene that many find racially offensive grab after nearly half half an hour squad car finally arrives to take neely to jail. The police chief is now deciding whether these officers will be disciplined David all it's tvos than some reporting. Thank you Steve. Now the economy tonight the Dow falling for the second day in a row down four hundred ninety four points today report on slowing US manufacturing activity fueling fuelling fears of possible economic downturn. There is still much more ahead on world news tonight this Wednesday your money tonight. ATM fees reaching a record high near the five dollar mark now and the simple steps. You can take right now. Also the teenager accused of impersonating a police officer at a traffic stop. This is it right here and what happens when a real officer arrives on the scene and starts asking him questions questions newly released surveillance tonight the sixty year old unarmed bank employees fighting off an armed robber wanted three bank heists and now the new headline aww Zantac the latest major retailer to pull the popular heartburn drug at what the FDA is bow saying tonight lot more news ahead here. I'll be right back. What if you can make your work. Take less work you can with capterra compare. 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ATM fees hitting a record high the cost at some ATM's nearly five dollars now and ABC's chief business this correspondent Rebecca Jarvis out to save your money tonight those annoying atm fees keep climbing hitting that record high the average cost for withdrawing cash from an out of network machine now four dollars seventy two cents up thirty three percent over the last decade customers not only charged by the ATM operator but also in many cases their own bank so what's driving the fee hike fewer Americans are using cash and intern ATM's TM's. That's increasing the cost banks charge you but you can't avoid some of those fees use only your banks. ATM'S AND REQUEST CASHBACK cashback wind paying with debit and of course you can also go cashless but if you are using credit it's important to pay off that balance every month otherwise your interest his payments will likely be higher than those. ATM Fees Day but again use your bank suiting charged Rebecca thanks to the index of other news teenager accused of impersonating a police officer and Albuquerque Albuquerque a real officer spotting eighteen year old questioning driver during a traffic stop the actual officer noticing. The team wasn't dressed correctly and installed police lights on his own car. You're the team then confessing. Police say he also had an outdated badge that he had purchased online the bank employees fighting off an armed robber in Abilene Texas police say the sixty year old worker unarmed she took on the suspect who had ambushed her police are still searching for the suspect wanted for three bank robberies he's that bank employees receiving commendation from police the FDA weighing in on Zantac tonight and Walmart now suspending sales of Zantac and generic forms of heartburn medication occasion because of concerns over a cancer causing chemical and tonight the FDA now saying new limited testing shows levels of that chemical end e. m. a. r. unacceptably high. I finally tonight here. America strong the eleven year old who has already proven how tough she is and her heroes. They're pretty tough to but they also have carts eleven year old. Layla Anderson has always been a fighter and a fan of the Saint Louis Blues Hockey team battling a rare life-threatening autoimmune disease what gets Tur- through it is fighting hard at her saint. Louis Blues one hundred days after her bone marrow transplant ringing debt tree bill better than any hat-trick says. Let's bring that Cup home doctors at the Saint Louis Children's hospital hospital finally telling her mom. It was okay for something else. Swear you get to go. I guess is it a blues game you about to meet her heroes. Who Tell her she is the hero when they they won their first Stanley Cup ever this year Leila on the ice and tonight even before they kick off their new season she had no idea they were coming to visit later Friday with a box just for her a championship ring for Layla Laidlaw to a kiss embiid question beautifully beautifully deflate. That ring looks pretty good on your Leila. I'm David Muir hope to see you right back here. Are you hiring with indeed. 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Full Episode: Thursday, November 28, 2019
"Tonight breaking news president trump in Afghanistan the commander-in-chief making his first visit to that warzone thinking. US troops helping to serve Thanksgiving dinner singing. The Taliban wants to negotiate peace in America's longest war plus how Air Force One made the secret trick. The Monster. Storms coast-to-coast fierce winds shaping those Thanksgiving Day parade balloons. One mortar getting knocked over and the new storm. Pummeling the West snow rain and treacherous driving a charter bus flipping upside down on an icy road holiday. Evacuations relations but chemical plant disaster forcing fifty thousand people from their homes the battle to control the flames and protect the air. Choosing sides hides president trump with a show of support for human rights in Hong Kong praised by protesters but vilified by China. Our trade talks now at risk. Risk Danger on the track. The truck stalled at a railroad crossing slammed by a freight train. Unable to stop opened for business. The Black Friday frenzy frenzy officially underway one of the hot items this year the Apple Air Pods where we found them on sale. The best deals to scoop up right now and wouldn't should wait to buy and giving. Thanks a second helping of gratitude for a hockey fan of forever. Mom a sailor's return and the gift of color color. The amazing stories that are all America. Strong this is. ABC News Tonight with David and good leaving. Thank you for joining us on this Thanksgiving night. I'm Tom Yomas in for David. And we begin with President Trump's surprise mission to Afghanistan his first trip there as commander in chief thanking thanking. US troops for their service. Helping to serve a Thanksgiving dinner also and meeting with the president of Afghanistan saying that the Taliban is back at the negotiating table the the president show of support for the troops comes as the recently fired. Navy secretary had scathing words for the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF ABC Senior White House correspondent Cecilia. Vega leads us off on a secret mission that only a handful of top aides knew about president trump. Today landing in Afghanistan delivering Thanksgiving surprise to American troops surrounded by those service members. The president announced peace talks with the Taliban are now back on. The Taliban wants to make a deal. We'll see if they WANNA make a deal. It's got to be the real deal but we'll see the president abruptly cancelled those talks less than three months ago after a spike in violence the move sparking fierce. Bipartisan outrage. The the dead. The dead concerned that dead nineteen Americans have died in combat in Afghanistan so far this year the most in five years and president trump hoping to make good on a promise to reduce the thirteen thousand troops currently stationed there to about eight thousand six hundred. This is the president's second trip to visit troops in in a combat zone traveling to Iraq last Christmas but this mission comes amid controversy at the Pentagon after the president intervened on behalf of a navy seal at at the center of a war crimes case. The Navy secretary forced out after president trump refused to allow top leadership to strip Edward. Gallagher of is elite navy seal L. Status in the Washington. Post ousted Navy secretary Richard Spencer calling it. A quote shocking and unprecedented intervention saying the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices but today president trump eager to show off his military support. The president all smiles as he served Thanksgiving dinner joking about missing out on his own helping I. I never got to my Turkey. It's the first time and Thanksgiving that. I've never had anything cold Turkey. But that's okay. All Right Cecilia. Vega joins us now from the White House and silly. This was a highly secretive mission as you said only a handful of top aides nude advanced. And you're learning tonight extra security that was taken yes. I'm they had had to keep this mission top secret for the president safety on a high stakes trip like this one. When Air Force One took off from Joint Base Andrews did so incomplete darkness? The lights inside inside the plane were off the window. Shades were drawn when it landed there at Bagaram base. It landed in complete darkness as well. Just a handful of aides traveling with the president on this mission Tom. Not even the president of Afghanistan knew that president trump was coming until just before he landed too vague with that new reporting tonight. Cecilia thank you and we are also so tracking two major storms tonight. One of them in the East threatened those parade balloons here in New York City. Take a look heavy wind ripping a hole in Ronald McDonald taking it out of service the nutcracker knocking one of its wrangler to the ground and now that second powerful storm slammed the West firefighters an icy road in Utah Rescuing people whose SUVs via gone down a hill and on I twenty five and Colorado icy conditions. Flip this Charter. Bus upside down the storms now. Moving east threatening travel just as millions of the Americans returned. Home here's Rob Marciano tonight. High winds nearly grounding those famous balloons at the macy's Thanksgiving Day parade the handler struggling to keep some of them under control gust shoving nutcracker balloon knocking this person to the ground. The wind tearing a whole neuronal McDonald balloon causing it to partially deflate officials pulling it off the route on the backside of this storm first responders in Utah racing acing to rescue three people in an SUV that rolled at least thirty feet down an embankment in heavy snow Wednesday in Colorado a bus with some forty five people on board Lord overturning on I twenty five south of weblogs roads icy in the area at least one life threatening injury part of a second storm. Now slamming the West in in southern California. Tow trucks pulling stranded big rigs out of the snow. I five north of Los Angeles shut down for hours driving treacherous on the fifteenth eighteen. Freeway north of San Bernardino. Coming up the past at fifteen here was A Lotta hydroplaning and let us stop and go both storms delaying more than fifty five hundred flights Wednesday alone fears of significant travel headaches for millions heading home with the busiest air travel day of the year looming. That's the big unknown right now. Rob Joins US live from just north of New York City. Rub that new storm. Moving out of the West could mean trouble for people heading home after this holiday I think so. Thomas really starting already to expand this as the storm in the east. Calm the winds down just a little bit on the satellite picture. You see just how much these book and the country and even had a little bit of rain and snow in the middle to boot alerts. New Ones has been posted including a blizzard. Warning for parts of Wyoming ended up and storm warnings of the winner variety in so cal with at core the low still sits over Santa Barbara but it will be on the move who've tonight so the heavy rain will move into the Las Vegas and Phoenix more heavy snow in the Colorado rockies and then emerges into the high plains where those conditions are expected tomorrow night into Saturday the heavier rain causing the Mississippi Missouri River Valleys. Maybe some strong storms during the day on Saturday in the deep south still blizzard conditions in the upper midwest. And then a leading edge of this precept during the day on Sunday he hit some colder in the northeast so Pennsylvania New York and parts of New England at least will start off as an icy mix making for dicey travel there and yet another storm on Sunday getting needed a mix for next week. Tom We know you and your team will be tracking both those storms. Rob Thank you for that in Texas tonight families within four miles of a burning chemical implant forced to spend this holiday away from their homes new video of the first explosion at the plant captured by a doorbell camera. See it right there. Nearly forty eight hours later. The fire is still raging as authorities closely. Monitor the air. Here's ABC's will car tonight. Firefighters are dousing a massive fire at that southeast East Texas Chemical Plant. That's been burning since early Wednesday morning late today. Local officials pledging significant progress has been made in the battle to extinguish those flames fitch improving but we are not completely out of the woods yet. The initial explosion injured three workers to blast caught on camera inside inside a coffee shop. You can see a bright light flash just before the massive explosion blew out doors and windows across the area heard a big crash big boom. I didn't know what it was. And then all of a sudden a split second later the glass windows complained in the bedroom then hours later a second blast causing a steel tower power to shoot out at those hellish flames then torpedo down towards the ground. There's a mandatory evacuation forcing tens of thousands of residents to flee from their homes for Thanksgiving packing up in leaving. I swear about what we're breathing in tonight instead of celebrating their wondering when they'll be able to return home authorities say they're keeping a close eye out on the air quality and while they won't be able to find out what caused this fire until they get it out. They say tonight one thing is for sure it is a miracle recall that nobody was killed. Top we'll car for US tonight will thank you for that. Next president trump caught in the middle after signing new measures supporting human rights in Hong Kong grateful Pro Democracy protesters waving American flags at Thanksgiving rally but furious China summoned the US ambassador to a meeting in Beijing are the US. China trade talks now at risk. Here's ABC's senior foreign correspondent in panel thousands of protesters taking to the streets of Hong Kong many waving the American flags to say thank you. They're grateful after President Trump signed legislation strengthening the position of pro democracy protesters to build the threatened sanctions and penalties. If China metals with the city's rights and freedoms it's also bands american-made Tig Assen rubber bullets it from being sold to Hong Kong. Mr Trump said he signed the law out of respect for President She China and the people of Hong Kong. The Beijing's furious the American ambassador summoned in anger China saying it strongly protested the move calling it serious interference in China's internal affairs and I'm warning of strong countermeasures during a time when both economic superpowers are engaged in highly sensitive. Talks to end the long-running trade war all this as the battle on the streets of this city descend increasingly into violent clashes the recent siege of a college this campus but escalating tensions with no end in sight the protests now straining US west China relations. If Beijing could ignore marginalize the demonstrations in Hong Kong has just gone out the window with America backing the movements it the likely only provoke more protests and potentially violence. So I'm chief foreign correspondent Ian Panel for a site Ian. Thank you and back here now. Some major stories major stores Are Open for business at this hour. Black Friday is already underway. ABC's Gio Benitez with some especially good deals including where to find apple air pods which really go on sale tonight. Retailers are open for business not waiting for Black Friday. Many offering doorbuster deals right now like at bed bath and beyond which opened its doors at five. PM almost forty percent off this kitchen aid mixer. The store also slashing an additional twenty five percent off your entire purchase us but only until noon tomorrow at macy's this thirteen piece. Cookware slashed seventy-five percent. Now just twenty nine ninety nine. It's time time for black. Friday doorbusters target offering these beats wireless headphones for one twenty nine down from two ninety nine and Walmart discounting some apple products bucks which almost never go on sale like these air pods down to one hundred twenty nine dollars from one. Fifty nine with next generation gaming consoles due out next year multiple retailers tonight are unloading the xbox one s bundled with three popular games for one hundred forty nine bucks. And don't forget you can let a mobile APP. Like shop savvy. Find you the best deals. It's scans a product's Barcode and alert. You if another retailer is selling it for less and if you're just sticking to Amazon this season Camel Camel Amel Kamel Contract Amazon's prices telling you when they reach rock bottom or at Juventus joins us live now from macy's doors now open a lot of deals out there anything anything. We shouldn't be buying yet Tom. macy's opened up the doors here at five. PM across the country. So that's some good news but listen so we're seeing some some good deals on electronics and kitchen appliances but experts are telling us hold off just a little bit if you're looking to buy toys bedding furniture even fitness equipment. Because you're probably going to get some better deals closer to Christmas on all right a hold off on that master now with the medical issue taking the New England patriots by surprise at least nine members of the defending champions sacked by a bad case of the flu. ABC's Kelly Hartono with more flu season proving once again it can tackle anyone tonight. Sidelining citing several members of the reigning Super Bowl Champs as they prepare for their next game accepted by New England. Nine of the New England patriots hit with the flu this week. Mostly at home from Wednesday's practice including five starters guys came in you look in their eyes and you can tell they were just out of Massachusetts among six states battling widespread spread influence activity as the virus continues to spread. Flu Season. Came early this year. Its earliest start in the last decade but the Center for Disease Control says it's not an indication of how severe or how long flu season will be the Patriots now taking precautions to protect its healthy players and encouraging them to speak up instead of fighting through it. If they feel ill tonight four of those players still unable to practice this is a reminder. It's not too late to get vaccinated. The C. says getting a flu shot is the best way to prevent the virus and its potentially serious complications. Tom Always a good reminder. All right Kayleigh. Thank you time now for index and we start in Louisiana and abandoned truck full full of sugar cane stuck right there on the railroad tracks south of Baton Rouge that train slamming right into it. One person sustained minor injuries. The incident is now under investigation. Allegation and the waltzing captured on Dash Cam. In new. York's Lincoln Tunnel police looking at this crash video posted on instagram. A father and a son each driving corvettes accused accused of drag racing their last February. One car seat here. Losing control and crashing police arrested the man and his son this week charged with reckless driving and participating participating in an illegal speed contest overseas now to the spiralling violence in Iraq security officers opening fire on protesters in the south killing at least forty wounding one hundred sixty people the attacks and ongoing unrest part of a series of anti Iranian protests and riots over the past two months overruns growing growing influence in Iraq protesters setting fire to the Iranian consulate in the holy city of just last night and the surprise at a sixers game. We're grateful to witness. It's the twelve year old son of an Army Staff Sergeant serving in South Korea. You see them there on the court seen his dad for the first time in a year and a half you emotional moment. Is Father now now. Retiring from active duty grads to them. We wish them and all our service members and their families a very happy Thanksgiving finally tonight as we gather around the table. A A spotlight on those giving extra thanks this year fleeing us all with an extra helping of gratitude. It's America's strong in Saint Louis the hockey team from there the blues so thankful for their toughest fan. We told you about her eleven year old Layla Anderson battling a rare autoimmune disease when they won their first Stanley Cup ever this year. It was Leyla they wanted on the ice with the team. Then stopping by Leila's home with something just for her the giant championship ring. Oh like etched inside Latoya's name in Massachusetts one family thankful to a teacher fourteen-year-old Jake Manning's mother. Paddling breast cancer for years at fell in love with them instantly and she got sicker that year. I just thought what what is she gonNA do. Oh He's teacher. Carry brimmer making Jake's mom a promise if you need a backup plan for Jake than our family is happy to make him part of our family and she said I'll sleep better tonight than I've slept in a long time when she passed Kerry and her husband Uh kept that promise from all went to heaven. So let me sum rush. Do you love her so much. Thank you and tonight. This photo from the new families first Thanksgiving together this in Pittsburgh Berg. We were there when relatives of War Two veterans were so thankful for something they thought they'd never witness this footage showing what explorers just found fourteen hundred feet below the surface off the coast of Japan the USS Gray back the resting place of eighty American sailors. A submarine that that has not been seen in seventy five years. Gloria Herni and Kathy Taylor's locals were on that vessel. This is the gray back we wanted to be to this person right. This is where your ankles are the discovery a type of remedy Eh for all those years of pain. Comebacks Comeback Cold All yours and this past week and we were also also thankful for this moment out of southwest Minnesota seventh-grader Jonathan Jones extremely colorblind handed appear of special glasses. That let him see vivid colours for the first time I was feeling joy and happiness that I could finally see all this color and rubio sadness because I wasn't able to lash. Jonathan got the glasses from his principal. WHO's also colorblind? After this video went viral wolf the family started a gofundme page to help out others. In just a few days. Donations poured in skyrocketing to now. Roughly thirty thousand thousand dollars snowballed a beautiful beautiful Jonathan now and just to see the world in full color. One thing I'm looking forward to is this winter here. We go into the Caribbean and I'm excited to see a Russian blue and we will be on the lookout for that video from the Caribbean. I want to thank our staff tonight. Who worked Thanksgiving and we thank you as always for watching? I'M TOM LLAMAS NEW YORK. I'll see you on tomorrow morning happy Thanksgiving.
"Power-washing our way into the weekend is the Friday, four on outside kiddos. I'm Clinton Yates big stories about this week as the NBA NHL crown first time champions team USA celebrated at big time at the World Cup. I this is just in the elevated California. Shares office has confirmed. It is investigating last night's post-game courtside incident seen on video from NBC bay area involving raptors president of basketball operations beside Jiri. According to reports jury pushed a deputy after he was stopped as he tried to join team on the floor to celebrate the raptors first NBA title. I'm going to jump in here Daego. I spent a lot of my life on the road as a musician when you started to or you're given a pass, and I have been on tour with aks, whose faces were on the side of trucks, backstage, the couldn't get to the stage because they didn't have their pass at the end of the day security guards, just doing his job, which means you keep that area safe, especially in a world where the NBA's had issues with people, shoving people. They shouldn't you keep these people safe, everybody that's on there. If you want to be on the floor, get a pass, or get somebody there that will allow him to get that access. Get to this later, but the point is security, there to protect Jiri from everybody else. Not to protect themselves from Jerry. Anyway, the NBA Katie goes down the warriors of doing a lot to me. I guess I just not just. K. D. Where or the warriors for you right now. Shop, you know, look, I think it's a big question, Mark. Right. I mean when you talk about arguably the best player in the world, we simply don't know if he will ever again be what he has been last several years. How can you answer any of those questions, with any kind of definitive nece? And then you throw on top of that what happened with Klay Thompson. We're talking about an ACL. This is an insignificant. This isn't a head cold. We're talking about another potentially career altering if not ending injury, everything. Right now is a question Mark for the warriors. It's been a remarkably bad week for them despite the fact that they were able to force it game six and it's not just questions about their future on the court, but about the organization as well. Let me have the opportunity to be melodramatic air. It's not just about the warriors. It's about the entire MBA. How many franchises across the league had been telling their fan base don't worry. We might stink now but we're gonna be great only hit the summer twenty nineteen because we're going to get a great. free agent. Now we're in a situation where you don't know what you can Bank on Katie. If you're going to sign him, Claes, top five free agent. You don't know of he's going to be even if he hits the market, who will he be? We're in a situation now where suddenly the best. And maybe only top five free agent available could be Kyrie. That's not save your franchise guy. What the big trend story for me. And this NBA finals at slowed management, Leonard told ESPN's, Rachel Nichols when he would not be in this place. He didn't have rest this season. He played only sixty games this is a second final in four years, where it's been decided by major injuries. I think this is a huge story going forward of players of teams resting their star players this whatever you say about this organization. At least they gave why the leverage to do that. I mean, overall here my issue is this is the warriors earned -sulting my intelligence. I mean serve curse coming out here talking about. We had no idea we would taken by surprise yadda yadda. I'm I'm sorry can look sit on my couch say that. Looks like it might be an achilles in the next game it happens. Don't follow up with me. Oh, my staff had no idea. I don't care if. Didn't have any idea they didn't know they should have known if they didn't know didn't protect him from it. That's a problems. But Kevin Durant people were involved in the decision that allowed, Kevin Durant to get back on the court as well. So that's fine themselves at some point at some point, though. I mean he's an adult. He's thirty years old. There is informed consent. We send boxers at into the ring every night is we will tomorrow night on ESPN. They know what the dangers are. Maybe that's not the most perfect analogy here. But, you know, if he had his own medical team told them, this is okay to and he made that decision. I just think there was a toxic environment ever since he came to Oakland about what he was dedicated to for that team from various reason, that's it was built up over the course of two seasons. You've got to play in this game. We need a pound of flesh or else. We're not going to consider any of this stuff legitimate, and that's what I have an issue. But if we take that stance, then you take the stance, Kevin Durant is so soft he won't consider his own future so off pressure about but pressure like he's a grown man. And he's the best player in the NBA right now. He is fully capable of looking at his own situation just like Hawaii ended when he walked away from the Spurs and said you can't make me play. So we're going to acknowledge that Kawai has the strength to do that. But Katie doesn't do for human beings doesn't have the same sort of. I don't know. Conversational syndicate, does anyway, moving on national TV, of course playing in the women's World Cup put up two touchdowns. One point after try I guess Thailand thirteen death. They got into a lot of discussion, Emily how they chose to celebrate their copious amounts to me was over reported ad nauseam. I wonder if the people who actually criticize these women for celebrating so much scoring. So many goals, actually put themselves in these women's shoes, if they considered how much pressure they've had over the last couple of months to repeat as champions. The media twin been let alone the fact that brought litigation against their own federation for gender discrimination for all of that said, I think the little rich to upper us the police, how these women should or should not celebrate it perform on the field. Well, we talk a lot on this show about celebrating. It was ago, I was pretty Derek Dietrich homerun celebrations on this show. So we talk about, I think this is interesting, I think there is room and I've been looking at all of the clips. About this from everyone just about. The reaction to this. Our own Julie Foudy who I deferred usually in these things, one of the icons of the team. She said, I think they went too far hope solo said, she thought they went too far they're entitled to their opinion. I think what's, what's more. Interesting here is how so many people seem eager to jump on them, and it's not necessarily about the discussion about the celebrations but it's kind of a proxy conversation about women's sports, in general, that we're still struggling in this country to have a fair discussion about. They are underpaid the women relative to the men. They are under appreciated relative. The men they've been struggling to make a go of their professional league here in the United States military put. It's all in the kind. That's what the reaction, I think, has been so strong on both sides. It's like you can't criticize them at all. Because in these other respects, they have not been dealt with fairly, and I think, that's part of the discussion where you work your whole life. Your sacrifice everything to get the opportunity to play soccer at the highest level. You've done everything that your body could ask you to get to the highest platform, which is the World Cup. And then you score goal and we get to suddenly, tell you what level of celebration is appropriate for a life's work. I have no issue with going in celebrating that glorious moment. Don't act like you've been there before when you've never been there before, and you may not get there again. It's a lifetime's work to get there. Let them celebrate and other thing is women. Didn't create the role goals differential counts in this tournament. They didn't create the role, equally three south. I'm sure they would put in the rest of their bench, if they could. This is the world champion. Do we different argument than the celebration? I think at this point everybody says, if you wanted to score thirty one Austrailia did against American Samoa number years ago. Then then go also, let's not throw the baby out with the bath. I don't have to hate women's everything think celebration was wack and I happen to think that couple of Iraq on their own stand there. That's all later switching used to David Ortiz, six men, including the alleged gunman in custody, and several other suspects are still at large in the Sunday shooting. A former Red Sox star David Ortiz, in the Dominican Republic police are alleging that the man who coordinated the shooting was offered four hundred thousand American pistols, or about seventy eight hundred dollars to carry out the crime, but they declined to identify who offered the money. Meanwhile, according to update somewhere teases wife, Tiffany, poppy is in guarded condition, but has been able to sit up and take some steps he remains in the intensive care unit at Boston's Mass General hospital. You spend a lot of time in Boston. I this story off the top was very odd. You know. You hate to see I cons like this put themselves or get in situations. All sorts of speculation comes around about who's doing what why anybody is elsewhere, but I oughta magically think of the people of the DR, who root for and care about diversity and the people in Boston. Yeah. You know, I've been in Boston all sprang, covering the Bruins, and I just can't express enough but appreciation they have for him. He exudes joy, he exudes strength, obviously, was there after the Boston marathon, and it was a beacon of hope and, you know, when I was covering the Bruins everyone was talking about who's going to be the flag that for the last game was going to be Tom Brady. I was told that he had prior obligations was going to be Tim. Thomas is pretty much lived in a bunker since twenty eleven when he won the Stanley Cup. But the thing that was getting people, the most excited was this rumor going around that big Papi was going to a message from his hospital bed, that would brought the roof down David Ortiz, assemblies establish. He is not just an everyday kind of icon, the star the history of the Boston Red Sox. He is arguably the most beloved player in the history. I might have Ted Williams bigger star. I'm just going to say baseball, whatever we get to that. But what happened six years ago in the aftermath of the Boston marathon, bombings, I was at Fenway that day when he made his speech, he became an emblem for the city for the region and beyond as well. He became someone beloved by all Americans in a way that we don't see very often these days with baseball players you mentioned, the rumor mill this is one of those moments in life, where it's not about being I it's not about being loudest. It's about being patient. We're getting information from a different area. That's trying to give us what's going on criminally in this investigation. It would be great if we could all calm down on the rumor portion of it, and let this case, we're out, so we can get actual facts before we react to rooting for property coming up Nick VIN, exiles life has changed. Find out why and the Cavs making historic higher. Geico presents yet. Another voicemail from your roommate. Doubt the kitchen turns out when there's a grace fire, you're not supposed to throw water on it. Wouldn't own right? Anyways, the fire department is here and it's totally cool. Can you call back when you get a chance? The Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected like if danger is your roommates middle name, visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance. Welcome back to the Friday force the discovery of the week week that is easy for me to say, let's read some tweets, look at Nikki had an iced coffee. For the first time yesterday. My new drink sidebars twenty nineteen next week good night set. Upset is coffee in the AM for me can't wait. Let's say. So. Ice coffee, this morning, just one of that. Everybody know on Twitter followers. Everybody say my phone a friend of my family. Disappointed. About is coughing before. So we'll disappointed but. Since it tastes. Good. Forget y'all outrage. It is outrageous. I mean what happens when he discovers cold brew five times better? Outrage Bruce to boost. I can't afford correct. Raised cheaper shooting ice call and he will do they have the cafeteria sonic. I. It is coffee. Tells imagine going the first forty seven years of your life. And then all of a sudden rut introduced to coffee. It's amazing ice copy, this budget's going to be good just down. Dick vitelle under reported stories. I really what you got. Yeah. The cath higher Lindsay Gottlieb, as assistant coach and I love it. I think this is a trend that should be going forward in sports. And, you know, I cover hockey for a living and Tronto Maples are the team that are setting the standard with hiring women to their front, office and Kyle Dube is hired Hayley Wickenheiser their head of player development highest role ever held by a female, also the first ever female fulltime scout Noel Needham. And he said, if we're only hiring white males were excluding, a lot of big qualified candidates out there. So I love with the cows did here, also because I mean, they hired her from a big time program. This is not just some wanna be some Rando, who came up their system. They got her away from which was already doing which to me says a lot about what women's opportunities in terms of what you go one route, you're not just but police in that sense isn't the NBA sort of still ahead of everybody. This. I mean game respects game, the NBA respect between the WNBA in the NBA from the players is one thing. Now we see coach leaving a successful college program to go. Join to join a staff here in the NBA. It just continues to assimilate into a world where I don't think gender really matters to anybody. That's involved in that league. It's one of the things that's inspiring about it. Hopefully, I just hope I'm related my mother's maiden name was Gottlieb in trying to figure out what do you get tickets out of that? If you're nice, you're other, I'll give you another reported story. It has to do with the New England Patriots. I know that sounds impossible. But by way of the patriots it involves the Texans the patriots have filed tampering charges against the Texans who last week, fired their general manager Brian gain. And in the course of this, the patriots, he's gone after Kazan the vice player vice president player personnel for the patriots. They filed the tampering charges, that's not the most under reported part of it. The most under reported part of this is that we're holding the Texans continually two different standard than we would hold the jets. The jets fire their GM in an awkward time for everybody and sports. Media explodes because it's New York. This is with Houston a division champion team coming off an eleven five season that should be in playoff contention. Again this year with a star quarterback, and we're not even talking about the fact that they've done this the complete wrong time in the complete wrong way. I'll tell you. It's most remarkable in that be roles. That was it. Vero. Machine. And if that's one of those fifteen years, right afford, real digital legitimately serious. Art. I'm trying to give great this love at this machine. Ties are all these phones courts this. As doing watch my real all done. I love that. Sorry, I see. This is the whole this part of the problem here. I am trying to bring awareness to the Texans not being held to the standard as the jets. I mean every time wait you told me I couldn't do it now, you're at my brain. This is what's got me worked up this week. Okay. I o see announcing this week that they were stripping the silver medallist from lift Lithuania. A canoeist silver medallist of his silver medal, every tested positive for steroids, like seventeen syllables silver, battles silver medallists, two ADM Lithuania. Trinidad sink country canoeist. I talk about this. Here's the headline though, you could see it. I was building up through it. But, you know, the thunder's been stolen from the twenty twelve Olympics in London seven years ago in they said, we had to do this before the statute of limitations runs out next year. They're going to continue to, I mean, after seven years. He gets a phone call. You weren't steroids. Back in twenty two fair. When he brought out a more day, I completely forgot where this what he's hoping that because. Next won the French Open. But lost Jeremy shafts love and we celebrate Lord Stanley's Cup in the peaceful transfer from power for Washington to Saint Louis. Got it fits boom. Saturday you could always see this on ESPN plus Tyson fury takes on Tom Schwartz. In the scheduled, twelve round made of 'em GM grin garden arena in Las Vegas, both fighters coming onto feed it, you can stream the under cards on ESPN two and he's deported starting at seven eastern chapel. Be there. Sportscenter six eastern. Keith olbermann. Lease icing sheet with the raptors went in the NBA China last night. They'll have the latest on the draft and free agency plus the most notable NFL minicamp. No-shows in interview with heavyweight Tyson fury. Sportscenter after PTI on ESPN the ESPN app right now. Here the fans cheering on surprised by that in and the players are telling them not to be doing that. Plus, these fans have been wonderful, but the tier for player who gets injured. Jason Budo sage. I don't know that not enough. There's some nights probably deserved it. This is a terrible. Look for Toronto sports city, which, by the way, I'm side on this show. Couple of weeks ago and said they got great shine for the way this entire process. Look, you get such a sales pitch of who we are sports city in these finals opportunities when you do. And it's not just in the arena was also interesting part when you take that approach to the best player going down. It's an absolutely savage. Look when you pay for a ticket to a game, which are paying for is entertainment. At some point, you may want your team to win but to want someone to be injured to make that happen is absolutely not even human. And the raptors fans are good should look to the raptors fans that are not and remind them that every single fan is Representative of a brand those fans represented the Toronto in Toronto Raptors brand as poorly as possible, and that's make light of this. But when you throw in the critique of the US women's national team by the members of the Katie in women's national teams, probably the worst week for US Canada relations, since the war eighteen twelve I'll I have to say they've been spending a lot. Time with Canadians spring and the Stanley Cup playoffs. Not all of them agree with us. A lot of them are embarrassed. They say sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm willing to give to run a little bit of a pass for just a quick reaction. Something they didn't know it was that. And then taking it back and Chinese, that's fair. But I will say this is a lifelong raiders fan for me. There's a certain reputation that comes with a certain fan base is, that's not based on the way, most of them act, the reputation of fan base is based on the worst, the worst apples do poison the welfare, everybody. That's the situation here for Toronto. Right. Or wrong. That's what people will partially. Remember of this series, I got I went to Penn State. I'm known as the person who flipped over in his truck. Clay. Rafael Nadal, winning his twelve French Open. I mean it's so mind boggling it so unfathomable that anyone could win twelve of the same major tournament. I mean when I was growing up. Royal Merson had the record twelve total. He wants six Australian Opens that scene like that would never be challenged my problem with Raphael. And the Dow, he's my villain because he's ruined this tournament. There is. No suspense. Let's face it anymore. He's too good for the good of the French Open, which is one of the great sports, have you ever covered it if you ever been around in the history of the world, you know, people tell you dynasty grade, etc. In this case, it's gone onto long fought him. I'm not telling you should stop, but it's to be falling in the ground every time he wins it like he's never done it before. That's my dear that's very, very good point. But what Bob even I know you're waiting for me to get to the nineteen sixty track. What did to the long jump in nineteen sixty five twenty nine two and a half ruining the event? Centrally for fifteen years before Carl Lewis. Mike pal verbs it exactly to beaming something, let's get to the hero. See well done my hero Carlyle for those who don't understand what happened last night, besides got involved in, but we'll just call altercation with a security guard at Auckland Rina's to county. This is some sort of share situation count. He says come here, let me say something to you what happens before. This is a very simple situation happens in a lot of black people's lives, where you're forced to encounter a position of authority, and you ask yourself. I'm not gonna let myself disrespected going to try to get out of the situation. Kyle from that. Okay. And there's a moment of brotherhood, embraces him and says, we're not letting this happen right now not on our watch not in our time. Not in this space drags him out of there. There's another angle where you can see a little differently. You can see the stair on guard's face Kyle Lowry after you endured, what you get in the crowd in excuse me in Oakland as well. Good on you might hear the week in real life. Forget about this program carry your next back to the tear bat to French clay actually Bharti's hero. The Australian who's now number two in the world. She wins the French Open her first major victory. The amazing thing about her story and their many amazing elements to her story when she was a junior, she was ranked as high as number two in the world juniors when she's eighteen years old or was it seventeen years old. She walks away from tennis, entirely to pursue a career in cricket in professional cricket. She didn't even really have experience in cricket. She spends two years, she's burned out in tennis comes back comes back three years ago. Steady rise up the rankings. It's a remarkable story of, and that's why she's my hero fits my hero. Jordan Bennington Saint Louis blues, goalie, there are a lot of here of the blues in this one, but fourteen in two after a loss in the Stanley Cup playoff for rookie goaltender is incredible work by him. It's why they host the hoisted the Cup night here. The week is eleven year old Layla. Anderson from state Laurie. Yeah, more putts. He has a rare autoimmune disease, only fifteen kids in the world have been diagnosed with this for a long time, only go from the hospital to her home. She had to go bone marrow transplants and chemo. But in the hospital, she prevented a lot of blues players. And when she finally got clearance to travel the team insisted she go to game seven the Stanley Cup final in Boston. She was there on the ice. She kissed the Cup and the cutest thing I talked to after the game she predicted a rally was going to score the first goal her months at n not. So sure she said mom, you'd never doubt, Brian Riley, and you never doubt me, shut also sidewalk bread whole not a long time. Actually.
Tony Talk with Special Guest Dick Vermeil Episode 21
"Tony talk here on scooped with danny mac dot com our weekly visits with the hall of famer presented by marie davila's senior living victory men's health triad bank greenville university and the fine folks at be the match and we bring in the hall of famer tony tony larussa and tony question for you. When is it ok whether it's fans or media. I guess maybe different than the team but start when we can start the magic number talk. Is there a time in the room even when it's appropriate or do you guys ever bring that up. I just think it's a personal kind of <hes> decision. There are some that i've talked to whether they're players coaches that you know they. They don't want to be distracted. They want to get onto what the business of that particular day is and there are others like me that felt like it was <hes> an extra incentive. I think we talked about this earlier. Show you know when it got to. It'd be under fifty somewhere in the forties you know i started tracking on my sheet and it was. I thought it was inspiring. You know 'cause it just kept you understanding any of the value of that game and that series so i think it's just a very personal thing i would. I would recommend it but if somebody feels like it's a distraction than america but you you were tracking it but did you like. Did you post in the clubhouse or was it. A how public did you make it. No no solely personal personal for me. I mean if somebody asked me which they did. You know they they knew like hey. What's our magic number. I said twenty two you know and at the top of my head because i was doing i was tracking getting it but no i didn't. I didn't feel like it was something that that you are team. As a whole would benefit from <hes> you know guys say the team is playing. Well you know the why why why bring in something else. It's distracting. I think maybe once or twice you know when we got a little <hes> <hes> we had a a good lead and we started to get careless where part of trying to get their attention was to show them that you know the magic never had been reduced by. You'll always felt you know we always do the way i looked at three-game series this hoping to knock all three numbers. I mean you win your series two out of three and they they went to three but you gain three numbers off. So you know very occasionally ever mentioned. It is as as a way to get them back on track. Cardinal second half surge really led by the young armagh. Jack flared a guy who has ace type stuff but i think people are waiting to see it sort of kick in and it certainly has i liken it to something john tudor in nineteen eighty five this incredible run for the cardinals were basically every time out had nearly no hit stuff or shutout type stuff when you've got a young guy in there carrying around a lot of potential what clicks because we knew flaherty could be good and something just post all-star break because it's like the switch got flipped for him. When young pitcher is there a time when they just sorta figure it all out here again. I think it's individual you know what you have rookie two years and there are some guys as players never had rookie pitcher always position player and they they get it right away. You know the understand the significance uh of getting grinding out every game so in jack's case at some point you know he's evidently learned that as soon as that outstanding appearance is over then the next day he comes to the ballpark and he works on the next start. You know he doesn't sit there. What reading reading the paper and reading is headlines and and say hey man you know i was great and you know kinda cooler for a couple of days. You immediately go to work and there's no doubt my mind at some of the leadership. Even the clubhouse like an adam wainwright would be <hes> would be right there to explain till that you're only as good the next starred as the work you put into getting ready for it so but he's on his festival run so you know the aug pitcher of the year whatever was and now he's back in september and he's doing the same thing. It's what they got going. You know as he pitches once every or five days. I mean they got a team thing going. <hes> i watched it. Back can't play that <hes> goldie made yesterday you know and all that great pickup by by by the third baseman clutch things going on throughout the team. <hes> certainly flaherty deserves a a lot of attention and credit. It's interesting you point out anime wainwright. Who's actually i've said this many times on the radio if you just did the blind resume and his name was bill smith and you put his stats up there and said here's what he agreed to contract wise. You'd say god that's a steal but because he's wainwright and people are comparing him to his past they say well. He's not what it used to be but he's been a hell of a good fourth or fifth starter starter and i would think that if you're a manager you want a guy like that not only to pitch but because you got hudson and flared i mean. I don't know that you verbalize dwayne right but you need them. In there just from a leadership standpoint i would think beyond that he's pitched very well. Well i would never underestimate and i would encourage fans to <hes> always give veterans equality veterans there do <hes> especially if they're still competing and a high level <hes> adam still competing at at a high level now he may not be quite as great as he was when he went twenty but <hes> the fact that he's there and end is showing those young guys what it is to be successful in the league is a tremendous value and you can put dollars cents and had had a lot of extra mehta's contract because <hes> it takes young guys to see what somebody who's arias jeez success how they made it work and believe me. There is a process that works whether you're a hitter or a pitcher. There's a there's a process that you have to work. You just don't show up a game time every every five days or show up in your lineup and start banging out base. It's <hes> a lot of it has to do with the preparation in starters cases four days. He's getting ready for the next one so yeah. We talked about this before. The mentoring situation in in sports is really really important important especially for a big team like football hockey baseball so you get out of wayne right you know. He watched the braves where he lived. When he comes in early on his career. He's he gets expense a little time in spring training around maddix and smoltz and <hes> and glavin well then he comes into into saint louis and sure enough. There's <hes> you know there's kyle. There's more as <hes> you know hentgen and what's it's going to happen. Is that the the mentor puts his arm around the young guy and shows him. You know how to work to keep sustained success but also you know what you do when you're not the ballpark. You know how you take care of yourself. I you know what you eat right. How you make sure you never get enough rest so i mean there's <hes> that mentoring system is invaluable. There's a little bit of a debate in st louis young dylan carlson tore it up a aa did graded did triple. A. and people want to see him here in the cardinals who said he's not coming up in september for the most part roster space which i guess doesn't really matter but playing time. How do you balance that where maybe a young guy could just get a little flavor at the bigly level. See how it's done. Versus is really no value just going to sit there. How do balance that <hes> actually. There's an interesting in between that <hes> that i would be in favor of the first one is do you put him on the roster and you know and and i tell you if you're a fan you wanna have a young men around for a while then you don't want to burn big league time when he's not being a key part part of the club so there's a lot of incentive to just to make sure what he's talented young guys when they're put on the major rosser and they see that clock starts ticking that they're ray to help but at the same time <hes> the most the biggest priority right now the cardinals have the best chance to win down the stretch and if they felt like he could help. I'm sure he'd he'd be on the roster so the in between the dodgers have done it. <hes> actually the p. The red sox are for about a week or two with the young guy named bobby dog aubrac is you can bring a young guy up not put him on the roster and just let them work out and <hes> by just being around you can see see how the process that these guys we talked about you know how it really works and you can start to see the atmosphere in the big leagues especially in september you know with the team in contention you'll start to feel the excitement so you can actually have a guy come up and spend some time and <hes> get a feel for it even if he's not on the roster that makes a ton of percents just to kind of be around in a special team. That's in the hunt. What about september rosters in is it specifically changed for next year. I know it's been debated talked about. Maybe going onto twenty eight instead of adding all these guys for the final month. Is there a final decision from the league. I have not seen that martin <hes> it has long long overdue. I mean that that's been discussed. I can remember way back when there was commissioned. Sealy hit fourteen committee with a bunch of us were on and we were discussing it <hes> and it was necessary then i mean there's just a few arguments against it and there's a whole ton arguments for it. <hes> it just doesn't make sense to play games differently in september then. You did the first five months of the year. A little extra help is important to make sure you protect protect their but not wholesale you know bring in you know ten fifteen guys that populate the bench and and create a little bit of chaos so i have not heard officially that <hes> that they've fixed it. Did the ideas start because they wanted young is is to just get the flavor or was it always got. It's a long year. We need some help. I can remember when i played you. Were hoping if you had had a big minor league season you would be rewarded with a month of september so yeah. It's been going on for four forty years but the <hes> the ideal has always been <hes> guys that come up. Is there a purpose purpose. What's the benefit to the team or to the individual with giving him a september chance and normally it's <hes> it it it. It's got a more of a issue now because that month does count on your big league time but i can remember. I'll tell you real quick. Which is i just talked about the other day. <hes> in nineteen eighty seven my first full year with the as we were in contention early september and the twins are tied for first place. They played better in september. They go they won on the western division ended up winning the world series but in september our shortstop fatal griffin got hurt and we had brought up walter weiss the aa shortstop to protect a little bit of mostly because we had an idea that maybe we could we would trade <hes> and we wanna see how good weiss was but we were in the race so bill griffin was getting most of the time and with about three weeks to go griffin got hurt and walk played and he played so well that <hes> the trade was made during the winter invoice invoice was rookie of the year in nineteen eighty eight. So you know the point i'm making it's gotta be a purpose of why when each and every one of the guys who gets promoted and <hes> just just wholesale filling their rosters it doesn't it isn't good for the game really great example. They're getting a glimpse of the future. What's something like a guy won't wise could do in the future. One of the great aspects of this show <hes> throughout the whole baseball season friends of tony. We hear these connections to <hes> people the names that you know and i thought this would be great fun because is in saint louis. It's a small club coaches managers who've won a championship in this town who have experienced a victory parade through the streets of saint louis and this week my good friend dick for meals going to be back in town because is bruce's. Put together a twentieth reunion for the rams super bowl championship team so we have a championship football coach hall of they manager here coach for meal dick for me a welcome to the conversation. I'll let you say hello to someone you know. Well tony larussa coach. Take it away good morning to both you guys. I took his pleasure the on the on the air with us and i just i mean just start with by saying that for a lot of us <hes> dixie young coach which and his commitment to the work and <hes> the amount of time that he was spending at the <hes> his office getting ready for that game on sunday showed us that the only way to make it was i work hard and then the other part of dick was the <hes> his creativity and the relationships that he built with his coaching staff and the players <hes> he's the guy we tried to follow as far as earn that respect and trust with our team well. I appreciate that only. I i don't know if i agree with you said but i'll accept the nice compliment uh-huh predate it very much you know <hes> as you know you know how feels to be involved with the leader as coach or manager where the same things and those guys around here are the guys that really motivates. You is your responsibility to help them be the best they can be and i learned a long time ago. That hard work was not a form of punishment. You know it was the solution and i never wanted to put myself in a position. I wanna try to outsmart somebody. It's pretty hard to do when you jin against the landry's of the world the joe gibbs and the ourselves and all those kind of guys so hard work was our solution and coach. I'm wondering and tony could speak do it as well when you you've had a great career but when you win a championship ship it celebrated forever every time you're back at the airport people run into you <hes> for both gentlemen dick i. How much does it change your career. When you have that championship inch and and people do talk about it forever will tell you this. No one ever introduced me as the losing super bowl coach soon as i wasn't what every time i met her do somewhere. I'm introduced as a winning super. Bowl coach lost one in nineteen eighty. They forget those and it's so true right. I mean tony what you've lost world series but we never talk about those yeah. I think about them all the time and believe me. I don't know if you'll remind right though wins the the winds are <hes>. What's your dream about. Actually i mean <hes> as a kid. I always wanted to be part of the world series victory as a player and just wasn't good enough to be part of it is on the coaching staff you know has the same kind of of celebration and and warm feeling and you know i. I can't remember dick's team. Yeah it was so much fun to watch and and <hes> come in and generate a world championship there in saint louis with the fans that <hes> that take everything so personal and embraces so much <hes> you you know we all enjoyed it and i think that's the thing in the end that <hes> i get my greatest pleasure for is when you win a championship how many any people really enjoyed throughout the organization and your fans i mean they really embrace it and talk about it and you're forever a part of it so very very special and coach and no question no question tony the one thing i've recognized to having been in two super bowls winning one and losing one to things that get there and loses it does to get there and win in fact my eagle team put in more work more time with less to get there and lose you know so i have every bit as much respect for those guys. They're they are not respected by the public as much for what they accomplished because they didn't win it but i'll tell you data awful lot to get there. These are two of the most youthful people i know. Maybe it's the northern california vibe. Maybe it's the wine that they drink but this is. This is a topic that interests just me because when coach from y'all got the rams job. Everybody said oh my god. He's so oldies over the hill. What are they doing. What are they and you were. What sixty sixty one and you think about about it now that i i just think there's a tony and i talk about bill belichick. He's going to be closed on seventy at some point. He's still at the top of his game. Do you both think that there's maybe it's just society in general but just this ageism that if you're older well he just can't do it anymore. We need a young guy and then that experience sort of dismissed coach. How about you. I well well. I think wisdom is very very important. You know you can't buy it and if you have all the experience and you're still healthy. There's there is no limit to how long you could do it unless it's a health problem or something like that but if you're healthy i think into the seventies i think ability that great if he still has the passion hey that's great. No one has ever done it any better than national football league that he has done it and he'll continue to do it. I think as efficiently maybe eighty better now because even as much experience as he has you keep earn a little things you know and help you do a better job of leading in <hes> evaluating <hes> putting your programs together your practices together your schemes together late in my career. I couldn't do it the same way did it. When i was young coach coach coach my own offense call. My old plays run. Do everything you know <hes>. When i came back i had coordinators. Fortunately i brought mike martz in <hes> my third there and he was a tremendous contributor to opening up our offensive and lightening all of us as coaches and making all better and put us in a championship position and we got it done. You know i agree totally. What dick says i think you know just observing coaches. <hes> and also the players the big as you get older is if you can maintain that desire to compete and your enthusiasm for the job and all the work that goes into <hes> pre-game in an end of the game then you're going to get better and better <hes> especially if you're in coaching because you know your your physical skills aren't evolve. It's only mental and so forth so i think what happens is at some point. You know the <hes> you lose a little edge. As far as how a ah deep you you want to have to dig to get the work done and and you and you know your drive to win is not as important as it was when you were a little younger and that's when you gotta live but if you can maintain your definitely learning all the time success and you have a chance better question. I know i tony i. I felt as i got my last year there. You know i noticed that <hes> she's <hes> when i was tired my mind this didn't work as quickly and and i didn't think as efficiently you know and when you're coaching as you know you live in a constant state of being tired and i recognize that about three quarters through the season that who says you know for meal. It's time for you to come on on from kansas city because your mind just isn't working as good when you're tired and hell. I'm always tired martyrs. There's one thing go to ed dickson listening and and <hes> you're so fortunate to be part of a world championship and there are many times that that i have you know i'm reminded of that because you run across a situation i remember buffalo. You know they had a wonderful coach there and they got away with it three times. They got in coach and they didn't didn't win and it's it's. It's amazing to get in your really successful to get in unless you taste that you know the final the final victory and and you know there are players. Great players are game that have never been on a world championship that are in the hall of fame and it's so to me. It's you know i empathize the ones that missed it and you never wanna take it for granted a lucky we are that we did get the get the win no question no question and i can remember my first recites <hes> in winning in say <hes> i saint louis was my thoughts automatically went back to all my players coach to philadelphia else you right. We're getting to enjoy the feeling of being world champion and i remember i just i hope i said to myself and i i think i even said it publicly hope very much. They can vicariously join in with this team. It'd become part of it because they they certainly deserved an opportunity to with <hes> you know like this and they didn't get it because we didn't get it done. I didn't get it so you know and the other thing you already mentioned this tony share that kind of i'm an experience with the entire community. I remember that prayed like it was last night to look down there and see people that were actually probably living on the st standing next to someone interferred code and i mean all walks of life all wealth wealthy people poor people they were all saint louis louis rams champions that weekend and celebrating that night and that parade and it really touched me to see how much that game meant into the city into all the individual people so many parallels between the two they leave saint louis after winning a championship. That's unbelievable able to walk away. They also voracious readers. I know coach for meal and tony both always reading a book and one of coach for meals favorite one of my favorite quotes from him. I would say people poke you because you're always crying or your emotional. He said you know what general schwarzkopf said. I don't trust a guy who doesn't cry and i thought that was a great quote and i know you guys both read. A ton. Tony's talked a little bit about playing high school football. How about coach for meal. Did you ever play baseball and did you have a guy growing up. I know you're in northern california was there was there. You're a player that you wanted to be as a kid. I remember you know i grew up here. At san francisco seals oakland oaks seattle <hes> seattle mariners. Where's it <hes>. I remember remember that in los angeles teams in oh yeah i remember those guys roy nicely lubar debt <hes> you know it of course we all knew d'amato's their san francisco. I'm in the napa valley. You know i've been in the modules bar. Okay you bet and one of the biggest drills i ever got as an adult is i walked into the rose bowl super bowl game right along with joe maggio holy mackerel the holy grail will he is. I love playing baseball. Yeah i've played my dad was a catcher so i had his old catcher's glove in. I remember getting backyard and calistoga so i'm there and i'm calistoga today here for a couple of weeks. I fly out of here friday a to be there then then i'll fly back here with we start picking actually start picking but i see yeah baseball. We had a distant cousin in our family. My dad's family named joe or go. That was a baseball guy in in the major leagues in management stuff or something like that my dad shoes to brag about it but anyway yeah. I love baseball all of our lessons. I've got a p._s. Uh i got a p._s. Two module real quick in nineteen sixty. When the candidate became the oakland a.'s <hes> i made that club out of spring training and and there's a picture earth day we're all standard and joe module as a coach <hes> and have a picture that in spring training you know i have a bat and and he's talking to me and i've been asked many times you know what did you tell you and he told me start managing because you've got no chances of hitter the coach for meal thanks so much for hopping on and and to all our listeners they need to stop by. There's the storefront napa calistoga spring store front you oftentimes we'll see coach there and it's ver- meal winds dot com award-winning wines. Check them out online or find it at your local distributor coach. Look forward ford to seeing you in town. Hey you both thank you dixie. <hes> that is the super bowl winning coach dick from ill come right back and wrap it up with tony larussa be be the match a great organization now a proud sponsor of tony talk. 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Everybody is really immersed in what they're doing on the campus at all times greenville dot e._d._u. For more information about this great institution solution great fun having coach for meal on and talk it over with tony larussa my job just stay out of the way when you have two great minds on the line at the same time. I'm assuming zooming you. You were busy but you had to have crossed paths a little bit. When you're in saint louis yeah at times yeah you know the problem is you are busy and when it was was our off season and it was their season i would maybe go to practice for a little bit but you don't want to interrupt because they that serious work and dick felt the same way but you know oh. I really appreciate martin. That's a great thought to have dick joined the show and he is a great coach and a great person so that was fun. Thank you art all right our final thought here we always do redbird relent claire tony's other would make it a former coach because the september call up the cardinals includes jose kendo who of course was played for why he played in saint louis but on your staff for many years. Give me a thought on what the secret weapon meant to you as a member of the staff. I think it's the most important point to make martin. Is that for that for a long time now since we've been promoting young pitchers and hitters through the minor league system very quickly the amount of teaching that goes on at the big-league level is absolutely critical jose. Oh kendall is one of the great baseball minds i've ever been around. He loves to coach has a way about them to connect with the kids and whether it's the infield play or just strategical <hes> use of that back because he was a very smart offensive players well those a._o. Can is a is a great baseball mind and again. That's another great move the organization to have him timber. He will be the difference in a couple of three wins between now and the end of the season. It's tony talk on scoops with danny mac dot com. We appreciate our great sponsors. All season long triad bank greenville university be the match victory men's health health and marie davila senior living tony look forward to next week. I don't know what surprise i'll have to worry about. We'll come up with something all right man thank you.
The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 257 John Kelly
"Yes yes welcome in to another addition of the current show on the inside s._t._o. Podcast network from the home loan expert dot com studios. I am your host timothy michael mckernan kernan follow me on twitter at tim mckernan follow this program at tim mckernan show subscribe to the tim occurring show please do it helps the cause it really does. I'm i'm starting to learn why it helps the cause house but all it is is in the show's downloaded to your phone wherever you podcast whenever you want <hes> and do that with <hes> the ryan kelly morning after at t._m._a. s._t._l. All have all these kinds of products for you can't chat all of its therefore you at your listening convenience every sunday night monday morning. We have a new guest for area every wednesday we have questions from the audience in which the audience just asks random questions really no particular format whatsoever <hes> it seems like gangster pete's buddies like to ask a lot a lot of questions i've noticed and they can email at t- mckernan at inside s. T. l. dot com <hes> or d. M. mehan social media at t- mckernan on twitter timothy michael mckernan on facebook and and then we have the pick six podcast the gambling podcast <hes> where people are paying attention to the weather man's picks after going sixty five percent send against the spread last year and <hes> he went to know in week one now by the time you're hearing this you will know how he fared in week two but i am recording in advance of the week's game so hopefully he's continued that momentum because the man is a mastermind of sports wagering so to this week <hes> we had a run of about a month maybe month and change of <hes> nothing blues interviews and <hes> and then he kind of pivoted <hes> because it was like okay we got on lose interviews and then joe buck in the mix and <hes> and <hes> and engaged armed in the mix as we get no football mode golf mode baseball mode and <hes> and so before the blue star up camp which is which is coming up here really quickly. One of my favorite interviews that we did from this whole big blue's stanley cup championship run run was with john kelly <hes> and you know everybody kind of had i mean when you're talking about bobby plager- when you're talking about <hes> cam cam janssen read lowe's former players bobby players legendary alumnus of course craig berube e doug armstrong pat maroon twice <hes> <hes> everybody has their different angle on this incredible experience in moment for for saint louis in for blues fans <hes> everywhere but john kelly's goes back to the very beginning because his father was was on the call from nearly the very very beginning writing and his calls are synonymous with blues history in the seventies and eighties and now john's calls are synonymous for new generations of blues fans and john kelly is about as kind of a human being is you'll come across <hes> incredibly knowledgeable at the game loves the franchise and as i recall throughout the stanley cup playoffs <hes> when i would go abbott this has happened before and so. I'm worried that it's going to happen again. Because if you see now it's now it's over and it's been a couple of months and it's like the blues have won the stanley stanley cup but if you can take yourself back to what you were feeling say when they lost game five at home against the stars and we're a loss away from elimination or even the <hes> near wraparound by jamie benn game seven against the stars or being up three two on the sharks and it looked like it was obvious that they would have to win that game considering all beat up san jose was an armored texts with joe buck that night and i think we talked about it and that podcast with joe like this just they can't win tonight because it would be so on blues like the john was always has yet but this year is different the app at this year's different the app at this year's differed and he just felt that way and you know what a number of people did as well and so to get his perspective both from being the son of the blues legendary broadcaster at the outset of the franchise but also kinda going game by game by that emotion by a motion of these high points and low points not just throughout the place but also the regular season what was going on and then to hear just what i would describe as just satisfaction happiness joy that he has <hes> is because i pay when when when when for example in the parade you'll hear him talk about it the float and how you know he had his family extended family on that float and what that meant form. That's that's a different perspective perspective than many of the people who we've had in had because you know his dad's tied to this organization from the very very beginning and he's <hes> <hes> you know been calling games here for a long time plus. You know there's always incredibly you know the hollywood. Ask elements of the blue stanley cup run <hes> take your pick pat maroon comes home not going well at the beginning of the season to the point that he's a healthy scratch and it looks like it might be big time mass and then he gets it going and then he has this signature win. I think at the the very least we would all agree. It's a top five goal in blues history. <hes> i've talked to john kelly this past week and as a matter of fact and he says the biggest goal in blues history <hes> <hes> either way that happens you have the layla anderson story that culminates with her lifting the stanley cup in boston. You have bobby plager- bigger and not being able to watch the games but being at the games and walking around and pacing and then being able to take the stanley cup to his brother's graveside. <hes> you have the worst i you have the interim coach who everybody bought into you have all of these elements that that factor in to the the story <hes> and in john kelly is also a part of that story in the sense that john kelly was done after the first first round calling games and then chris carber the night the blues advanced the stanley cup final after beating the sharks in game six a he asks john kelly to call a period of stanley cup game but not just one time throughout the entire series because he felt like it was the right thing to do you honor the name means. You're just like like if a thirty for thirty or something of that element wherever done on this it would be very difficult to condense it to properly tell all of the sub stories of the organizations run and this was one of my favorites. I think everybody whether you're in broadcasting or not. What can appreciate it but what i thought when i heard that i i saw it on twitter the first time in a lot of times you kinda like i see what the person's doing what they're doing it for likes tweets and it's kind of <hes> yeah. You're doing it but i know what you're really doing early like promoting and it's not really charity because you want attention for it and i get get it and i guess the ends justifies the means but for chris kerber do is this was so selfless mean chris curve calling blues games. I think for close to twenty seasons. I remember interviewing review in two thousand when he got the job and he's he's he's a saint louis and he's dreamed of this moment and he gets it and he gives a third of his call in the stanley cup final to john kelly just because he felt like it was the right thing to do to honor the name and not just a a period every second period of every game. That's you know that's something that that that will always be you chris kerber bio and <hes> to hear john kelly tell the story of how that came to pass on his reaction to it is is one of my favorite elements of this interview. John kelly is is presented by mark hanna of evergreen wealth strategies. Mark hanna is online at evergreen s. T. l. dot com so many people l. specially younger go back. Twenty five just got out of college. You know whatever making this maybe. I'll save this a little bit. I i don't know who cares 4._0._1._k. I don't even understand it. I got a match okay. What's that pattern who cares because it seems like retirement. Is something that exists in another galaxy i see and then i can tell you somebody who then hits forty and you go. Oh this retirement thing. It's still a decent ways away but now i got actually pay attention to it and you have a family and you go wow. I really wish i would have not gone okay. I'm going to set aside half my paycheck at that but it just you build it and then it compounds. Remember hearing that stuff in my early twenties and go on who cares. What does it matter now like. Why didn't i do that well. That's marquel evergreen. Wall strategies can put you on the right track to do. 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Since we started this thing twenty three months ago ryan kelly the home loan expert dot com the sponsor of our studios support the sponsors they make podcast possible ryan kelly the home loan expert dot com so without further ado ladies and gentlemen it is my pleasure to present to you by marquel every wealth strategies blues broadcaster john kelly john welcome back to the podcast return engagement but under different circumstances you have drank from the chalice or now you've of course been part of to organize to championships before but you never drank the channels and i saw your son tweet that out that was great. It was an amazing experience tim <hes> you know i did a lot of interviews in the playoffs. You know some with you and others on your radio station station. I think the number one question to me. Was you know what would it feel like to see. The blues win the stanley cup. What would it be like to experience a parade and at the time. I didn't know i mean until you do it you know and now that i've seen the blues go through the process in the way they did <hes> to win a game seven in boston and to go to the parade and you know right in the parade with the other broadcasters. It was this one of the greatest experiences of my life period. Wow it was actually better than i thought it would even though i had no idea what to visualize i feel like the reaction. I feel like the community were sitting here. It's been fifteen days since they won and i still feel like communities on a high from it you know i think it was bigger and better and what drove that home to me. I am sure you had a variety of different. Experiences was the reaction of the city and the people around the building after they won game four to even the series was the first time they'd wanna stanley cup final final game in saint louis that one game in boston and i felt like the reaction was like they had won a championship that night and that drove home to me if they actually win this thing. This is going to be bigger than we even -ticipant it. I don't know if there was a moment for you before they actually did it like this thing is this thing might be bigger than we might have thought it was going to be yeah. I don't know oh aside from the last game. In the last ten seconds you know was that moment bigger than gutters goal in game to ride the first ever win in the final was that goal bigger than maroons goal in double overtime in game seven or schwartz's goal in game five with fifteen in seconds left to make it three to one of their there were so many pivotal goals in moments tim <hes> so i don't i don't know of game. Four was the moment <hes> you know. I think in the in the final aside from the last game to me the governor's goal was the goal that really really gave the team a lot of confidence and i think it really it really say energize the fan base but i think blues fans really felt that they had a really good chance to win the cop nine right now because if they go down to oh it's a really really tough hill to climb yeah i i i like i i just give me a high to look back on the seasons two months twenty six games of every day record by the way oh is that right. Most most playoff games ever played. I did not n._h._l. Record wow and you think about it. You can do the math here. It's roughly thirty percent of a regular season. Yeah i mean it's crazy. Raise the max and went through some incredible teams too. It's not like there were now and that's no disrespect to boston's road but i mean you know the yeah but we're now we're now. Let's go back to october. November december and you're seeing it. You're there with darren pang and you're observing this too. I had had a weird thing and there was the story about the guy <hes> who put the bet on the blues and one hundred grand on them and when when i was watching them play in my knowledge of hockey is like you know i mean one millions of yours but it when i'm watching a planned thing and i don't think they're that bad not that i think they're gonna win the cup but i felt like there the values we talk about in our world gambling world that the blues were like one hundred to one. I might throw one hundred bucks on that just for the hell of it just because i and then i went and i looked on a site and they were like thirty five to one i go thirty five at one like one of the worst teams statistically right now anyway in the league and i was surprised by that but i didn't think they were that bat so you're observing games. You've called games of course both for the blues and the avalanche now all these years with the blues. What were you seeing. What were you hearing when you around around the team round the coaches. Obviously there's a coaching change. What what are you thinking. As you observe this team play before it turned around you know i it's it was one of those <hes> periods that you just couldn't make sense of a tim because going into the season they had such a strong team on paper they really didn't mhm and then they were just so inconsistent <hes> but they might loose six to one at home and then they might go to toronto on win four to one or or they might you know win. Colorado in colorado is a red hot team so just when you thought this team might fall off the rails within be done they'd play greg so i never gave up hope now that i think that time that win the cup of course not but i always felt that if they could get hot and this was after the coaching change when they started to play a lot better defensively yeah and i think that in hindsight if you look at <hes> mike ios <music> season he he was fired just before thanksgiving so basically two months. They were not a good defensive team. They were just a bad defensive team and i don't know why <hes> was that the the structure <hes> you know the play of certain players but ruby came in fixed their system and they started to play better defensively although in the first six weeks brewers record was not you know he didn't start off twelve to. I think i read somewhere yesterday. He he started five seven and water something but they were playing better <hes> but to answer your question it. It was just one of those things that you just couldn't understand tim their team and they win big games yet they would have these lowe's that were lower than you'd ever thought was possible so you never gave up hope but at the same time you didn't know when it would turn around as it as it turned out it turned around in january. The blues digital media team does an incredible job and the quest for the cup by. I don't know if you've watched that on e._s._p._n. Plus <hes> which is such good production wall behind the scenes yet off the stanley cup playoffs the way ba- ruby carries himself it seems to me that there is a a directness of bluntness that the team appreciates and comparing and contrasting edited clips from take your pick of other coaches throughout the stanley cup playoffs and it just seemed like he had a way that the guys bought in was that your read and if so why do you think the guys bought in. I think they bought in because number one. He has a lot of credibility and he has a presence. I mean i'm sure you've met craig <hes>. He has got a presence. He's a big man who did it for a number of years. He was invited back to teams. Even when a lotta guys went to the right team and it'll come back right <hes> but he walked the walk i mean this is a guy that had over three thousand tamsin. He told me one day that he fought pro robert six times in his career and you live but he had a presence and you know i think you know in talking to players over the years the one one thing they always say about a coach they want honesty and if nothing else craig ruby's honest and as you said there there's no gray area <hes> he'll he'll call a player in and just say you're not playing well and the player might argue with him. He might go to video and ba ruby. Just says no. You're not playing in well so he got he got the attention. He had the credibility and then slowly but surely he got them to play better as a team a better team game mm-hmm and i think the the other thing tim is that certain players had to check their egos. I mean just because you played on the power play two years ago or you are on the top line and another club a year ago. Does it mean that you're gonna have the same benefits to this year's club because they had they had a lot of talent so oh i think the players had to realize that the rules could be different and it took a while but i think they check their egos and they accepted the roles jordan bennington to make that that i start. What did you know about him. At the time i didn't know a whole lot i mean we had only seen him play a few preseason games he he was a backup once or twice and that's it <hes> you know as a matter of fact i saw the rampage play game in winnipeg in october because the blues were in winnipeg had an off day and the rampage played the winnipeg's farm winnipeg's farm club <hes> it went pagan he wasn't implying who so was the goalie is a matter of fact who so started something like ten of the first twelve games with the rampage and they got off to a bad start and he they turned to bennington and then who so got hurt and bennington turn their season around. They missed the playoffs but they had a pretty good second half so to answer your question. I didn't know much about him. We just hadn't seen and knew he was a sort of a tall skinny goalie who had never had a chance. It's the cam janssen low and here. We were talking about the domino effect. A team can get from quality goaltending because it gives them confidence that if they i slept up there is a net that is going to protect them from the puck going into the net and they felt like that was the chain reaction. It got things going on in january. What's your assess. I think so there's no question and you know if you look at the goaltending in the first half it was inconsistent and for whatever reason jake struggled at home he was he was really good on the road but i a lot of nights they would give up a goal at home and you could sort of see the bench shrug her shoulder shoulder or you can you can feel the energy leave the building <hes> but wants bennington came in and started to play like the way he did it gave the team so much more confidence and i think tim if you look at the way the blues play you know i know there are four line team with pretty good physicality but their defense is also very active <hes> i think they had the second highest highest scoring defense in the n._h._l. So you know they take chances but that's the way you have to play in today's game and that's the way this club needs to play to to generate goals. It's not like this team was obviously like the eighty five oilers or whatever they they didn't have you know seven or eight superstars stars that scored fifty goals. They were four line team so their defense had to be involved than they were in. When you play that way you're going to give up some chances and then benneton he he gave that confidence in the great goaltending that you have to have as you said sometimes when you're taking chances you're going to give up chances and they're playing really well their point away away from winning the division which is amazing considering where they were famously on january third having call this many seasons you have <hes> with some great teams of course some cup winners. I i recall you being on on on the ryan kelly after and saying it's just it's just different this year. You know it's it's kind of it's kind of written in the stars so to speak you know. When were you feeling because we were saying the same. I mean i know doug and i were but we really felt that way. We weren't just saying it for the hell of it. We really felt that way but i you know when we were coming from an inclination standpoint. What was your feeling going into the winnipeg series regarding the possibility because we know what the possibility is but how likely the possibility was that this was going to be a deep run because winnipeg's challenging opponent opponent start with. You're gonna sound like you're into thing. No is a matter of fact i think on paper winnipeg was the best team the blues played in the in the first three rounds. It really solid team but i had heard rumblings that there was some dissension on that team and they did not play well down the a stretch yeah. They blew a lot of leads down the stretch conversely. The blues were playing really well. As we know i mean they had never lost more than three in a row all season even in their darkest days in october november december <hes> but under baru you know in the second half that team was rolling so i felt they had a had a good chance to win the series but it wasn't locked by any means and i felt winnipeg on paper was a really tough challenge and it's interesting. I think you mentioned winnipeg blowing leads because i might have happened in game two but for sure and game one famously in game five in winnipeg they had the lead and the blues came back and won both those games it might also happened in game to game one. They were down one nothing <hes> in the third period they they scored a couple of years. I believe yeah. It seems seems like that was in october. We talk about it now but i always felt like look back a game five a plan. You're on the call this one with that first round. I can't recall it was you might know where he's winnipeg's article three oh and one of their forwards as puck's going in kevin hayes any clear the park that was i mean what three inches from crossing i know i mean one of them and you know tim you look back at at moments like that and i have not looked at all the highlights of every game but you look look at that play. You look at the jamie benn wraparound. No i was i was in the suite. The fox weeded that end and if if you look at the replay that park was was at half an inch from the line and have been eaten doesn't get his pad down at the last second the game's over now so you look at plays like that and obviously the schwartz goal in game five and obviously the maroon goal there were so many defining moments and i really felt after the maroon goal to win the second round. I felt this team was destined to hopefully win. A come. Now was i for sure of course nine <music> but to me there were so many special moments and as you said it almost felt like there was divine intervention from somebody or some people that this might be the year and as it turned out it was hope you're enjoying the conversation with louis broadcaster john kelly here in the mckernan show or in the home loan expert dot com studios and we are talking it over with the great broadcasters we go down memory lane on the blues run and his experiences throughout and none of this is possible without our sponsors the home loan expert dot com you get mark hanna evergreen wealth strategies got johnny lon chevrolet chevy find new roads and you got designer heating and cooling online at design air service dot com the the train dealers in the west. 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This was the year and then what they outshout them something third and then they wind up losing and instead you have the hometown kid of course winning that thing and that launched people into absolute manian etienne even though it's only three years removed from what happened against san jose in the western conference finals. I felt like this took it to another level for whatever reason i don't know famous brower goal. You're calling the brower goal in in two thousand sixteen forever and i felt like there was more belief this year. I guess it's easy to say because we know the outcome but i don't know i just felt like there was more belief that this was real and keep in mind. They lost game one against the sharks but everybody i felt i remember tweeting it out and get like four thousand votes. You lose gonna win game two and like seventy five percent like yes. That's it just wasn't the mindset of the blues fan years path. You're always waiting for the shoe to drop in. This year's like they're going to be fine. Yeah i felt like after they beat dallas that they would be san jose and i felt that they had a better team than in sixteen and they lost six games with san jose better a team. Maybe they didn't have carlson <hes> thima meyer. Wasn't there really good young player but i felt the blues were much better team this year than they were sixteen. I really did and as it turns out if you look at that series they just rolled over the sharks. They should have one in five yeah they really should everyone looks at the hand passed goal. Well shirks tie the game with the goalie off. They should have never letting overtime. They wanted five and by by game six. You know you saw the game. Sharks were just they were a minor league team. Yeah they were in pieces so they were just the better team and i felt going into the series. Is that a really good chance to win the series one of the things i loved about that series if anything it's the highlight and there's the post game after the hand pass game carlson thornton burnsville not mistaken in and carlson you know i mean what are they gonna say. I understand but he's like well. We weren't playing handball out. They're just like if i know this group of blues the way i think they work. They're going to be like okay. Screw these guys. We know better. We played them in game three anyway yeah. We're just going to run them. They're not going to win another game. This is over six and that's exactly what they didn't lose another. Yeah exactly i mean they ran them to beat the hell out of them. As it turned out tim i think it really galvanized the team and hand fast games and i really do. I think it really pissed them ma and it should have and they said we're not losing. We are not lose in this series and as it turned out. They didn't lose another game so they get back. I mean that night. I was there with my dad. I was there with my wife and to see the team. Go to the stanley cup final at home an incredible night. What is that night like for for you and your family. You know this is this is this is this is the kelly name here. That's a bigger this is. This is something that i i was thinking about throughout. It's like bobby players eggers in with frank coucilman right now doing it. I was always thinking about players in in kelly's obviously the name of the alumni are so prominent town but there are some names synonymous with this is that i think about what was that night like for going back for the first time. It was a special night. It really was <hes> my entire family. Was there <hes> so you know we watched the handshake line postgame work for fox sports midwest and then the blues had <hes> a private party in one of the clubs and they had the western conference championship trophy in there and we went in there and took pictures with it and <hes> celebrated and had a few cold ones and i it was it's a really special night but <hes> you know i thought about it a lot. You know might my dad. He called the blues for the second and third her trips to the finals he wasn't here. The first year young buck did the games as you know <hes> so to think about you know back then my dad probably felt that oh oh man this is easy every year and lo and behold they don't go back for forty nine years so you know i thought about that and you know mainly. I was so happy for the fans because you could you could just feel it in the building tim how happy they were and how badly this team they wanted this team to win a stanley cup and now they knew after the san jose series. They were four wins away. I know the go there was a goal in the third period can recall who scored it and at that moment because it's a little tight. Here's a push at the start of that third period they were dominating acting and i'm like oh my god no no no oh no no maybe bows acts goal to make it was and couture had a breakaway opportunity been intimated save and then the blue scored a few minutes later and then at that moment uh i think people like this is really going to happen came countdown in a celebration which was so incredible and then all of these things are attached to it on top of it. You know i mean that's the thing about this. It wasn't just a great hockey. Team was the team is in last place hockey players in general likable but a lot of personalities emerged who you probably already knew a great personalities always but you knew about the layla anderson story and what went on with her in her presence with the team <hes> video of bobby plager- walking around he can't watch the game became aware of that guys knew about. I'm sure forever but that he could watch games and then chris kerber comes to you and says i want you to call the second period of of the stanley cup final games. I'm telling you i mean so often. I'm like okay. Somebody did this but this is. What's in it for them and i know it's not going to get the ends. Justifies the means but this is like the most selfless gesture in an appreciation of history. It was perfect perfect so how did it all come to pass will actually can't pass in that in that party room. After game six against san jose <hes> as i said i was in there with my a wife and kids and and chris was in there with his family there were one hundred people in their employees and and and executives in chris this came up to me and said john. I want you to call a game <hes> appear in every game of the final and my reaction was no. I'm not gonna do that. It's not my job at your the job and he said john. It's not an option for you. He insisted and jennifer my wife was there and she was she was all crying and i call my mom the next day and she was just over the moon and it yeah the word that comes to mind to me. Tim is unprecedented he because it's never been done before that i know of where radio announcer has said you're going to do part of the stanley cup final or any championship so you know it's it was unprecedented and i am forever grateful for chris for making that gesture i mean i initially i thought it was one of the second period the game one of my right. What a great that great anyway great idea was that it was second period of all seven games. I mean it's just something else and and and how much different is it calling ling on radio versus television. I mean there's there's some elements to that. I would imagine that happy. You have to be cognizant of that. Of course the people listening or most likely not viewing unless they've picked doc emrick fans and there aren't a lot of those no and by that. I mean not a lot of people who are not fans of doc ever yeah obviously you're. You're way more descriptive but you know tim. I came up in radio. I did six years in the american hockey league. Were i did eighty games a year on radio with no collar man and i was the engineer holt. Oh oh days early broadcast right and then. I did some some games in tampa bay when i was there on radio but i'm not gonna say that it was seamless. It's a bit of a it's a different <hes> challenge and it's also unique to come in in the second period plan and but you know you you you just are coming in and the first periods over and but i would listen i would sit next to chris and joey in the first period so i could hear everything they said so i didn't repeat if if they gave a stat or a quick anecdote or whatever i repeat that right because there everyday like they are getting ready for the games and things like that so it was a lot of fun it was a lot of although i must admit in in my seven second period periods. I was a minus player. I knew you were coming in of like what did he have. In the second period of that of the game in front of thinking like k. ain't nothing really doing in. I aims game three was bockel. I felt like they got up early with riley's wraparound in game four and i was immersed career right yeah. I'd say ah game five. It was more famous with the bosak. No call in the peron goal that was third period game six was a tobacco goals there yeah i did call. I believe in game five o'reilly made it one nothing that was very early in the second backhand. That's right. That's right. That's right that's right but then as you said peron got the winner in the third on that controversy. I'm just having i was. I was a minus announcer but it was it was the greatest we drank from game says all said i wanna i. I happened to see you. I don't know if you remember this by the way <hes> before games james and young page views in his chinchilla yeah so he's about to appear on the fox. That's the thing so i was talking this guy. I know where i was going with it. <hes> we were talking and then mike torika walks by because we're all by the sets of fox sports midwest and n._b._c. and you said hello and then you guys wind up talking for a few minutes and i felt like he was saying some very kind things i didn't like. I was over there with a chinchilla. I've got i got. I got two things i'm dealing with but what was what would mike obviously had appreciation for the significance of this for you and your family. He knew who he knew of my dad and i don't think he ever met him but he said great things about him and actually i complimented him. I said mike i can't believe what a great job. You did. <hes> doing a few games on n._b._c. S. n. when you had never done hockey before and i meant it from my heart <hes> because i know how challenging it is to call play by play and here's this guy that comes in in the middle of season and again. I don't know if he'd ever done hockey period in any at any level and i thought he was fantastic. So so i just i just complimented him and he was so nice and gracious and <hes> as i said he he he mentioned my dad and and things like that and so it was a nice conversation we are a lot of stories from listeners who somehow crossed paths with take your pick of somebody on the n._b._c. crew whether it be production people are on air and they were so complimentary of the saint louis experience in the blues fan base but in in a sincere way not kind of the gratuitous these fans here they were really not to say that they were pulling for him but they realized from being on the ground here how much this meant to this region and i thought that was i mean. I guess it's obvious i mean i don't know if there's n._h._l. City you could pick where it really wouldn't matter. I mean i don't know how much dramatic no matter the people of phoenix for example but here that mattered so much and they could tell that and so everything is set up. I think people came into the enterprise centre for game six thinking that there was going to be this was the night i know i certainly did and i certainly was hopeful that it was going to and unfortunately i think once the second goal that was kind of the knuckle puck that got happening. Tennis like the arrow was out of the building. <hes> after a few attempts and rask had an incredible all night and then not only are people going was twofold. I felt like number one. We thought we were going to see the cup tonight now. It's a realization that we're not an oh god. We've got to go back and you know what would be three nights to boston and play a game seven with everything on and when you're third game on the final yes not easy that was i mean walking walking out of there i was i was really down. I was really down but yet had a weird thing. I felt like i for whatever reason felt like the real. Lose games six boston was going to be on tilt over what happened at the end of in the middle of third period of game five kind of like the blues being on tilt over the carlson hand pass right and they were going to respond but i felt like the blues would have been game seven which was obviously not something most people would have. I think boston was minus. One eighty i mean they were a big favorite thing. What were you thinking on the night game six as it comes to a close not much drama although there are plenty of blues fans who stuck around and said let's go blues at the end and they were cheering of a were you thinking. It was extremely japan because it was all setup. It was almost too good to be true right. They had clinched the first three series at home. Don't forget and that's yeah to see the three handshakes in your building and now potential fourth with a cup coming on the ice for the first time ever in fifty two years. It was almost too good to be true there eighteen two thousand and the building is you know i don't know thirty forty thousand in watch party outside and you know the air would other balloon and it's not like they. He played a terrible game. Tim it was a misleading game. It was one nothing nothing to five on three goal by marchand and the blues were over four on the power play and then the second goal that bounced by bennie ten so i was disappointed and i remember walking with my wife and and and a couple of my kids kids and i didn't say a whole lot you know it was really disappointing. I i wanted to win that cup that night. For the fans of saint louis sums it up perfect and it didn't then happen but i didn't. I didn't give up. I just felt that this team was destined to win at that point and they were too good. A team on the road. Bennington was too good a bounce back oily and that's what happened anything you see or hear in those because again it. Wasn't you know it was that that made it tougher to you. Had two the days in between he had monday and tuesday then game seven went off for a ma i did did you see anything or hear anything or talk to anybody leading into at that stands out to you now that you look back and we know what wound up happening. You'll you know 'cause they show that ruby speech on quest for the cup and it was perfect i mean it was not as dramatic again. His loquacious is the one that her brooks portrayed having a miracle but it was very direct you belong here. You're good because you're a good hockey team now. Go out there and win it or you're. You're going home with a cop or something like that and cassidy didn't. I didn't feel like it really resonated. It's like they're kind of trying to tell themselves because burs ron had apparently a famous speech before game six. I mean speeches only get you so far for a lot of people made great speeches in los games <hes> but anything that you noticed leading into that that wednesday night in boston that that now you look back on it yeah right now that i see that i feel like these guys were in a good state of mind or good place or nothing that is really significant about. I think that that karrubi address game six immediately after the game and was spot on you know it was one game. Our power play didn't get it done. I'm paraphrasing phrasing here and now we come. Come down to one game for the cop. You me back in one game for the stanley cup. I say sign me up. It's kind of the same way you handle the hand passing game you couldn't read from a textbook handling something like that right after exactly yeah and and conversely i thought that <hes> cassidy and i i've met cassidy and he's actually great friends with darren paying. He went to high school with darren. Oh yeah he actually played professionally with darrin on three different teams teams in the american league and then also with the blackhawks but i don't think they handled game five very well they were they're crying for today's about game five <hes> now they won game mm six so i guess it doesn't matter but i felt that ruby after the game handled a wealth and the next day we flew to boston late in the afternoon and it was just business as unusual was like fly into phoenix for a game in december and it was just okay it's one game and then they were business like at practice the day before game mm seven <hes> you know the the game was the same morning skate loose gated after boston and the players the coaches all said the right thing so they just treated it like another other big game another road game. We all know it wasn't another game. It was game seven for the cup <hes> but i think as a group they handled it very well and they prepared the right way and looking back. They won the game the way they had to win it. They got great goaltending in the first period benneton stood on his head head and they got a couple of of. I don't wanna say unlikely goals but certainly goals that were not goals at rask would normally only give up i mean the tip in between the legs and the portray angelo goal when marsh and made the the inexplicable line chain within seconds seconds left so you know you scared off with a to nothing lead in your own robbed a bank and got away with it and that's what happened. I mean that was on the first fifteen fifteen minute. I guess the first three minutes the blue planet but then from three minutes in for the next fourteen minutes. It was just like you're just going. Oh my god oh my god 'save save after save after save and the blues i think had one shot and a hell bond having one shot maybe until the actual goal effect with four shots in the period and half of which yeah so i can't imagine and you were there and i want to play. I was like i said i was standing next chris cooper and the radio position <hes> in boston because of all the media was basically on that goal line. I was standing standing at the end of the ring bennington okay and i was just like i turned into our stat guide dave auto and i was like wow how god would have say and just kept happening. They should have scored you know regardless of how many goals you think the blue should have had in the first period boston. They should have had four goals. It should have been either four two four one or four nothing. After one instead it was two nothing was on real and as far as you know we talk talk about momentum so often. It's the natural element of playoff series baseball hockey basketball. I feel like whoever loses feels like oh god. We're gonna lose the series and whoever wins. She's like oh my god. We're gonna win the whole thing because you have forty eight hours to sit there and analyze it and you get to high with the high into loza lows but as far as momentum goes i can't imagine and the feeling and the boston room following the first period after outplaying them like they did tampering bennington like they did and then they go in down to nothing as great as the first goal was was to give up the second one to portray angelo especially self inflicted with marshawn seven point nine left and they show that inquest with cop and like char's trying to say stuff and and it's just like they're like what are we going to do here you know and it was even more of the period you call. I felt like it was a floyd mayweather fight <hes> which i realize there's an analogy algae that might not make a lot of sense to people but it was like there was pointing them to death in the second period boston was trying and then his cam said he goes on the blues with send the puck down and then he goes no idea how to fighting ain't gonna come back down the is try a couple of things and they have it set right back down and is there pointing him to death dominated not by scoring but just by out playing them and playing playing their game and you asked him was deflated and playing four lines and basically six defense and if you know when i look back at the way the blues team played aid especially in the last forty games in the playoffs. I don't know if i've ever seen a team chuck harder than the moose and i mean four check harder backcheck harder and check better in your own zone. They were relentless in all three zones and if you look at the last has two periods of game seven it was textbook out of the way the blues checked and i think as you said after was to zap after one and and in the second period it was basically an even second period the blues crossbar. They all went up three nine schwartz hit the crossbar. They got really lucky but the bruins couldn't get the inside they could not get to the inside and in the blue zone and that's the way the blue plate i mean it was layers in their own zone and that's assuming they got out of their own zone and through the neutral zone tim. I'm telling you this team checked. I think going back in n._h._l. You know the history and and cup winners the last team to me that check that well was the ninety five devils the trap teams under jacques yeah when they swept detroit in the last in the final detroit was a heavy favorite in ninety five and they got swept by the doubles and to me the blues checking game was the best checking <hes> display and team that i've seen cincinnati five devil statistically seeing that they won five and six against winnipeg seeing that they won two of the last three against dallas. Tell us that they won five and six against san jose and they went to the last three against boston. It would indicate that they wore teams they weren't they did yeah and they were down mentally and physically by mentally as you said after a while teams were saying you know when games five and six decks when they're down by a goal or whatever oh my god there are three players around the every time i get the pot. I think that's the mindset the opposition hat in addition a lot of guys were beat up especially in that san jose soon <hes> and if you look at the way the blues especially that fourth line <hes> barbara chev and sundquist and not so much steam because he's not as physical a player but those guys were less than they hammered and hammered the opponents defense game after game after game at a paid off the tarasenko look over the shoulder and the pass and then the goal in the third period period. I think made people go. Oh my god. This is really going to happen now. You're still not your blues fan until they're zeros you know but when when that happened and it's now three nothing i think people going oh my god. This is really going to happen whether you at that moment. That's exactly what i thought him. After the second period after i i call the game on camelback i went to the other side where they had some seats for four bernie jericho and darren and i and and all the blues after players were over there the guys that were not addressed and when the schengen goal was scored there were a lot of high fives and as a matter in fact all the all the players left after that they went down the locker room really because they knew they had to address because they wanted to get dressed and go on the ice. I and celebrate with your teammates so all the players left after the shan goal and i i knew in my heart it was over. I think we all knew that boston was like no mosques yeah. It really was like that exactly how it felt and then the sanford goal was the old proverbial knife through the eye dog armstrong. Might it's exactly right <hes> bennington winds up. They get one but still he hasn't increased. I mean absurdly good game. They cut to the benches inches time's ticking down and these guys the smiles on their faces. The gloves and the sticks go up in the air. Where are you. What are you seeing. What are you feeling. What are you doing. What's going on. I was <hes> again working post game for fox sports bed west but we knew the timeline and the timeline was we weren't coming on the air for or at least twenty minutes n._b._c. has the right as we were not allowed to count the air in the ball. They could come on the air at at ballpark. Village got warm and jamie but we can't go on the air in the ball until after n._b._c.'s off the so i told i told our producer tim pabst who does a fantastic job. I said tim i'm not going down and lining up in the zamboni area in not watching this i wanna see this with my own eyes and so i stayed up in the press box to watch the final ten seconds to watch the gloss fly in the air and the sticks and i wanted to watch betray angelo lift the cup because i've been waiting for fifty two years to watch a blues captain lift the stanley cup and i did that and i stayed up there and then after four or five guys skated around with the cop then darren i bernie made our way down to the zamboni area and then we lined up to go on the ice to do our interviews. What do you remember about your emotions. Your there with paying or you're there with i mean bernie dives synonymous with the saint louis blues especially for guys my age you know and grow up in the nineteen eighties. I mean what what was it like with those guys well again. Tim paps producer <hes> he was up there and he he it's on social media he he did on his iphone he he shot a video of of the final ten seconds and we hugged in high five and <hes> you know i'm not not an emotional guy and i didn't know how i'd react and as it turns out i didn't cry. I don't know if i would but i didn't think i would <hes> but it was it was it's just you know aside from getting married and seen three kids born. This was the greatest moment of my life period and as you said i worked for the avalanche avalanche and i saw that team went to cops ninety six and no one <hes> in no disrespect to that team or those moments by din compare right because because this was my in you know the fans of the blues and my family and my dad's ten year and my brother was in announcer here actually actually my late uncle was a broadcaster four kelly broadcast blues games and to see our team win a cup like that live was again and one of the best moments in my life and as much as you look back on god yeah losing two in a row at home to winnipeg in in the you know the the hell of game five against dallas and having to go through game seven and the hand pass game and the fact that it went to seven sometimes it's the fact that you had the battles that makes the eventual victory even better in game six the cardinals two thousand eleven series isn't the same of josh hamilton doesn't at home run the bidding and makes the comeback after having you have to have these moments swept through or they wanted five isn't as has dramatic as wow now being like we said twenty six twenty eight possible games were played yeah and i sort of felt that game seven against dallas alice was almost the microcosm of that because i watched that game from the fox sweet and from the mid point of the third third period until maroons scored i was literally an i was just so miserable because the thought of losing that game i don't i don't know it was just so it was something that i did not want to see happen and i was miserable bowl and then they scored and one and it was one of the greatest moments of watching hockey in my life. I think that you know it was again. A microcosm kerr qasem of the playoffs you know is so great and so awesome <hes> but there were so many moments where they could have lost and they didn't lose so so that's what makes the whole story so remarkable and you know if if if you were the most creative writer in the world you could not out of written a script. I couldn't have to from opening day until the last game on june twelfth. You couldn't come up with that script new coach new goalie last place the cup winners first time in fifty two years i would i have to ask about the prague's i saw video of you not only in the parade of course in in in the garden arden drinking from the challenge with the boys spray. How great was that was yeah and then you're on one of the floats with your family. My mom is well yeah. I mean what's what's that that parade superseded. I think people could have expected. I'm inbred hall doing interviews. We have a parade raid. We're going to be a parade for a week and it was kind of turns out he was still going on the parade was ridiculous. It was <hes> we actually lined up <unk> on. We're on a flatbed truck and all of the broadcasters in our families. It was really nice of the blues to to allow us to do that. So we lined up on on on brett hull street. They're just south of of enterprise centre and walk into the building to to walk over to the floats. There were thousands of people and then we went west on on brad hallway and there were probably twenty twenty people deep on the on that street. That's not even the parade and then we turn the quarter. I'm not sure what street that is right by union and we had north orth market and you're like oh my god and i know you're there. Tim and you've seen we all seen the video. Oh but you know at at certain points. They were fifty sixty deep. My god he was just it was way bigger than anything i imagined and it was just an amazing experience and then to get down to the stage area and the broadcasters were all <hes> the co m._c.'s. He's up on the stage and to see the cup. Come up and to work out <hes> now. I know what the pope feels like because he talks to people like that you no way at at a sunday mass every week in rome right yeah i mean it was it was a perfect scene. I mean it was the you're under the are yeah and it was a beautiful day. It was perfect. You couldn't have written era final thought it what this does for hockey in this region now i mean i yeah i think my generation was a byproduct of brett hull <hes> and then what that led to with the alumni and the presence and then you know the famous draft raft with all of the saint louis. I feel like right now. There are people going. Oh my god i can't wait for hockey season to start and a lot of people who otherwise would have never even been saying those words on top of it. You have a group of people as is the case with. Probably i would imagine you don't have a whole lot of players. You can name in your broadcast in korea. That guy was a real ass. I mean most of the time hockey player count on one thing really the amount of guys i really is that right. Yeah one hand just went to say. I gotta ask you who guy one guy but i mean that's the thing yeah so now. Fans wear like these guys like. I think you're probably like yeah. I wasn't surprised that they were all walking along and signing autographs and taking pictures and you know shaking being hands and letting people touch the clock that didn't surprise people who are around the game but now fans who might not have known that hockey players about his down to earth as it gets with professional athletes in north america erica they know the personalities and they can't wait for october when this thing starts up again so the foundation has been built to have this become something that the twenty nine thousand nine team his turn this market into an even bigger hockey town that it already was anything yeah yeah i i've. I've always felt this was a great hockey market and you know they've had some tough time. Sir this team almost moved a couple of knives and <hes> they were last overall all the year. I came back in in five. Oh sex <hes> some some low points but the they've had some great players some great teams <hes> <hes> until this year. I don't know why they didn't win because they really should have won before this year but to answer your question. It's going to go to a level. <hes> the interest in the blues who's <hes> the interest in the game of hockey that we've never seen before in saint louis and it's already been really high as you said <hes> you look back at the mid nineties in particular <hes> oats and fall and then gretzky came along and ninety six. I mean hockey was was really hot here. In saint louis and it's it's gonna go to a level that we've never seen their building. As we know the new practice rink in maryland heights for sheets of ice <hes> they're going to have a hard time you know getting ice time for for for boys and girls in this city and then in the next <hes> whatever five ten years because it's going to we're going to see growth in the popularity larry of the blues and the game of hockey life never seen well. It has been awesome to relive it with you. I'm so happy that you and your family got to experience this and that you got to drink drink from the stanley cup as good as a kit yeah and you know the best part you never asked me about this was after after game seven <hes> the broadcasters were on the plane and it was just the players and the staff and the coaches and the broadcasters and that three hour plane the ride was the most incredible free hour plane ride of my life what was going on it well. It wasn't like animal. I was about to say it's my mind. Automatically goes no honestly <hes> the coaches are up front in the in the ownership and and doug armstrong the broadcasters are behind the first class area and then the player right behind that famous picture of maroon holding the cop in o'reilly with the right and and that was literally right behind where we he said the cup was there in the conn smythe so for three hours <hes> it's right there and you know we took some pictures and that was that was honestly as as as great a three hours of my life as as the plane ride home was incredible. Actually we went down to enterprise. The blues arranged a party and we were there till seven thirty in the morning. I've ever seen video woke up the next morning and i live at the enterprise centre. The blues and i go what the hell's going on. Yeah i know i called my son and daughter and i said wake up come on now and they drove down with me and we cop came in in with all the players and some of the staff and we had a party and <hes> i left there at seven thirty in the morning it was what a night oh also it was. Some of those guys kept going. I feel like they'll be clark toby clark and the players with o._b. Clarified but you know what i'm fifty eight till i had to go home. I don't good for you for making seven thirty. Exactly this has been awesome john. I always liked talking but this is the best to go through this so happy for you and your family. Thanks so much of the time hey anytime there it is john kelly here on the tim current show presented by marquette evergreen wealth strategies as we broadcast from the the home loan expert dot com studios. I don't care how long it's been. It's kind of like what i had and i still have actually with game. Six of the two thousand eleven world series like i'll click on the n._h._l. Network just to see what's going on and they're showing a blues playoff game. I flip it on so to relive these. He's moments. It's they have. They have this evergreen shelf life. I'm just always happy to listen and to get the perspective of a guy who uncalled as many blues games as he's called and lived it as much as he's lived it. <hes> was just really i just i it was an honor. Actually as i said about a number for these interviews with these blues players coaches g._m. Doug armstrong bobby player it just puts people an instantaneous state of happiness camp just a a couple of weeks away. Ami's regular seasons a little more than a month away but <hes> it's a different thought process for me and i guess too good good thing for me because i just you know i knew that a lot of people around here loved regular season hockey and i just couldn't care any less about it. When it gets down to it. I just couldn't and i still i still think i i still don't like that is many teams get into the playoffs as they do but the juice of the squeeze is the stanley cup playoffs with the greatest thing going so it means a crappy regular season in my mind crappy because it doesn't have the value of the postseason <hes> the value to the postseason the postseason so damn good. I'm it's it's fine and in college basketball. You have one game. You can play those thirty. Some odd games get knocked out in one game aim at least at hockey. You're gonna have a best seven <hes> and the intensity every other night so where is almost every year previously where the blues playing hockey games and october november and i'd be like watch hope they win win whatever i'll be watching just from an insurance standpoint. I know when it gets down to it. Whether the seat of the one seed it's a crapshoot <hes> but just get in but i'll be watching and i'll be watching and enjoying it and i know i've i've talked to guy this has come up so much over the last couple of months the increase in interest in hockey in the area already and registrants this group of players. This organization in has done something for this area that already had taken place but it is it is laid a foundation <hes> upon the foundation that <hes> the blues alumni built that you're going to see an explosion in saint louis area hockey. It's going to be <hes> huge so <hes> to get john kelly kelly's perspective <hes> very grateful for his time loved the passion the enthusiasm satisfaction happiness in his voice and <hes> and thrilled that we could bring that to you here on the tim mckernan show. Thank you to gangster pete nagy for producing thank you to our sponsors. 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Hour 1: Worst To First
"A delta flight of three hundred cities three hundred cities where people singing the car, and where people miss him one in one of our other two hundred ninety nine cities we don't fly to three hundred cities merely to bring us together to show us we're not that far apart. Delta, keep climbing. It's time to get off with the warriors last that role born can they find a way without cagey to force a game seven plus right now just standing by with news onto superstars who made huge moves yesterday. Ford's new beginnings? Don't miss the latest on a D And Kyrie coming right up history made on the ice last night. The celebration is on in Saint Louis. It's time no voice the Cup together. Let's get up right now with a jam packed house. I want I would argue is the best sports day of the year. Celebrating like crazy in Saint Louis. Tiger. Woods tees off about five o'clock this afternoon at Pebble Beach, and then game six of the NBA finals is on this schedule outside of you about Pebble Beach. Well, there are no words to decide. With all his money look at all. Haggling over there. We, we are really splendid, and we are revved up and ready to go. And we're going to start in Oakland game six of the NBA finals tonight final game at or go one way or the other. But the warriors at struggled at home against Toronto, this year, they've lost all three games including of course, the two in these finals. Better top to knockout, the champs at home, in the last twenty five years raining, chance facing elimination are five and one at home in the finals, the one loss in this building Golden State to the cabs in two thousand sixteen as you obviously know Kevin Durant is out. That means more Steph curry curry averaging ten more points per thirty six minutes with Durant off the floor in these playoffs and attempting five more shots per game. So it could be time for step to have a huge night to try and keep his season alive. Meanwhile his teammate, Kevin Durant is by now. I'm sure you've seen was on Instagram from a hospital bed yesterday posted a four paragraph message explaining how he was feeling saying in part. I'm hurting deeply. But I'm okay basketball's. My biggest wa you see and finishing here saying, I know my brother's can get this game six and he'll be cheering along with them his cO Steve Kirk spoke yesterday about the decision to play him in game. This last month was a cumulative collaborative effort in his rehabilitation. Kevin checked all the boxes and, and he was cleared to play by everybody involved. Now. Would we go back and do it over again? Damn. Right. But that's easy to say after the, the results what you know, when we gathered all the information our feeling was the worst thing that could happen would be a reinjuring of the calf and, and that was that was the advice and the, the information that we had. And at that point, once Kevin was cleared to play. You know, he was comfortable with that we were comfortable with that. So the achilles came as a complete shock and. I don't know what else to, to add to that other than had, we known that this was a possibility that this was even in the realm of fossil -bility. There's no way we ever would have. Allowed Kevin to come back. So there's all that, and it should be pointed out. Doors Burke reported that at the beginning of a game game five that the advice had been that the worst that could happen realistically, that he would re-injure the calf but nothing as catastrophic from an injury standpoint as this turned out to be Jay. We'll obviously you were there. No, Kevin Durant as well as anybody in the media does, what is your big picture, take all to me? I think this falls on the Golden State Warriors, he got misdiagnosed he got misdiagnosed, and I know, for fact that he was told that with the torn calf a partial torn calf that it unloaded the pressure on the achilles that there was no chance at the achilles could be injured at all. And for that to happen in the first half of a ballgame. I think just cave-in bad them that because watching it, I got it ninety I got pissed off because that's what you, that's what you came into the game thinking what's going to happen? Number two, from a public relations perspective. I think the way the warriors have handled this whole thing has. Been horrific their camp knew that they weren't going to play until game five game six it was set from the beginning. The water didn't come out and say that they separate tension even during a Portland series. Hey, he could come back game one he could come back to. He could come back. Joe leg going on evening Smith show Greene, saying he will be back. I think all of that gives subliminal pressure to a player who we all know wants to compete at the highest level. Now, if you really have his best interest at hand, if you really want to be around for the next four to five years. You say you're not playing this game. We're thinking long term instead of short term, but when it seeps into your mind you think he could leave all of a sudden we have to get it right now. And I don't care what anybody says that plays into your psyche a little bit. When you think this guy is going to leave, and you wanna make sure that you get three because fourteen it's about winning right now. If you're not going to have that option next year Koran you played with Kevin. You're also very close to Kevin, what is your what are your thoughts is? We watch all of this happened, especially while j just said, I don't think he checked on the boxes. And I think he was misinformed. And when you have that type of information that's thrown at you. You think that you can go out there on that platform, and be the best possible version of yourself and doors, Burke, poorly, extremely will, and I think Jalen rose touched on also on this show, where he said, would his Itis, Kevin Durant? Did not look like he was ready to go out in the NBA finals and perform at a high level and our biggest fear became the biggest nightmare for a lot of extremely closely him that love him as a human being and you know, that's what it was. He got injured. So Klay Thompson got injured. And we talk about this all the time, they exactly if we're competitive, sometimes we want to go out there and compete against the best. We don't care how injured we are. But it's the team's job to actually protect you from yourself. Right. So they protect it clay, and I don't see anybody talking about von looney today. Combat loonies in his contract year. I know it's not the same amount of. Kevin Durant gonna make camman looney. Rush back from injury, then got reinjured again. And now we're talking about trying to come back. How could this affect his free agency as well? These are all questions for all these guys that are lingering now it's such a complicated conversation. I agree. We also laud the athlete who comes back and plays through the pain in place through the injury and sacrifices whatever he or she may sacrifice in the interest of winning a championship when the result is arguably the best player in the world, having the worst injury, you could possibly have it changes the dynamic of the conversation. It really does. And that was the hero moment that everybody wanted and you know, that was the headline in the story. But ultimately did not work out in his favor and not going to stay the two thousand eleven when Raymond brothers and the Dallas Mavericks, elected to protect me from us self and not allow me to go in that platform in reinjured muscle. That's all the narratives runaway green. That's what you'll say. Well he selfish. He's the only thing about himself. You know, he's thinking about free agencies not thinking about his team like if you're Kevin Durant. You're Saint back. You know, he takes all that stuff in he feels that. This is unfortunate all the way around it. It is a perfect storm of terrible circumstances in the sport. Now, there are lot of other major NBA headlines. Whoa, just ending by with those lower. What do we have, what would reporting that the Lakers have engaged the pelicans and trade talks for Anthony Davis? One key asset the Lakers had is that fourth overall pick which road reports could be used to entice another team. The come a three way deals waiting to see what could happen with and for more. Let's welcome in NBA insider Adrian words now ski in which it appears trade talks getting very serious here. Let's start with the Lakers. What are they trying to offer the pelicans for AD well as little as possible, and that's, that's she should is? But I do believe this. I the Lakers have enough to get a deal done for Anthony Davis, but it's going to be a question of how much are they willing to give up? Will they add a Kyle Kuzma to a bigger package? Will they include future? I rob picks beyond this fourth overall pick in next Thursday's. NBA. Draft. But wouldn't these two teams engaged prior to the trade deadline? There was a different general manager in New Orleans, New Orleans was never going to do that trade, but they're serious now about moving Anthony Davis getting maximum value for him. And they would like in a perfect world to have that done ahead of next. Thursday's NBA draft blows. Hang tight. We'll get more on Kyrie Irving in just a few minutes. But let's get it back over to greedy and the guys more on AD the Lakers, the pelicans and maybe that third team that could be involved. Yeah. I mean, this is such a fascinating thing. We're talking about a fast moving. I was, I would set the world on fire. You won't bomb yesterday. Everyone was reacting till we could so quickly. What do you make of this, the notion that Kuzina might be part and part of the hold-up in all of this? What does that make you think back to three two thousand four season? I got traded for seculow Neil. Is business is the way that it goes. And if I'm able to acquire a cow, Kouzmin would LeBron window at thirty four thirty five. Kevin Durant out of the equation going forward for the foreseeable future. Sorry, I do this deal in Koumas, one of my favorite players will that roster. But I have to get the deal done and trend in the right direction right now. Lebron James thirty five years old, how how much longer does that window exists. If you need to have Cal who's involved in that tray, you need to do that in order to get Anthony Davis to LA, and I don't see this being of three ways scenario. I see either the pelicans dealing with the Lakers or the pelicans dealing with the Boston Celtics directly. It's not going to be a three week. Well, we're going to get what would you back in the minute, because it's going to tie up all into kyri, and we'll see what he can tell us about all of that. But that fourth pick is an interesting one. Because if your New Orleans right now, the notion that they re engaging in these conversations. They want to get it done this quickly. The fact that the Lakers, all of a sudden they're trying to hold calicoes out, it sort of, I think a little bit a window into where the leverage is falling and the leverage seems to be sliding away from New Orleans. It feels like by the day, it feels like the longer this thing goes on. And maybe rich Paul's comments about how look he's going one way or another to the Lakers are really working. Against New Orleans in this, I would agree with you, wholeheartedly. I actually I had a conversation with Rich Paul back in February. And he's stated on a record look anybody outside of the Los Angeles Lakers in the New York Knicks at the time it'd be a rental situation, but anybody engage in if you know, rid says that he means what he say, and you saw them on the cover of Sports Illustrated like he's a guy that means stay on his word. I get that, the only thing is that sometimes people's decisions change, because the circumstances, change Paul George who is going to be a Laker until he wasn't and Kawhi, Leonard, we think he's going to be a clipper. Maybe he won't. He decides to stay in Toronto and you don't think he will. I don't think he will either. But all these things are yet to be. Let me just ask you this, if the Lakers traded away the majority of their young players, but they put together LeBron AD and whatever they could put around them. Is that a team that could win the Western Conference next year so team that can go far? I don't think it's a team that can win it was a team that can go far I think that could be maybe a four seat, which I think is talented, but also don't forget about. This evening. You're talking about two players who are under the same Brennan. They're both under sports so that he can't really relate this to a PG thirteen kind of situation because they worked together they're talking about this is what they want. This has been planned. And that's okay. Too teams plan out what they want players. Complain out what they want is, well, this is a new normal in the NBA that, that's the Rich Paul part of this. We'll talk about it, but just on its face. They trade away the young pieces. It's LeBron AD and whatever they can put together around it. Can that team win the west anything is possible to Western Conference in the NBA championship? Trophy is wide open for mixie's. Yeah. The injury to Durant. Pages wide open. Right. That brings us to the other piece of this, the guy, you know, I think should be teaming up the brand, Laura and whoa. What do you have on Kyrie? Yeah. We'll get to that in just one. Second, I do wanna get whoa, JR. Quickly on the pelicans and the eighty talks with the Celtics because that would be a one year rental, and we've talked a lot about what's going on with that. And how it's worked for Toronto with Kawai. Why are the Celtics though interested potentially in that one year rental with a d? Because the stature of Anthony Davis, a player of that, caliber, you have a chance to acquire them. You're going to exhaust every possibility to see what a package would look like that. Maybe wouldn't completely compromise your future. There is great risk in trading for Davis. But I think in Boston, especially with Kevin Durant now out next season, does it give them a chance to re-engage with Kyrie Irving and sell him on an Anthony Davis partnership in Boston, which is what they hoped would happen all along given that of Kyrie goes to Brooklyn or go to the Knicks he could have Kevin Durant hypothetically, but he wouldn't have them next season. But Boston believes in its its organization, the environment that players like to play there. And they think they could sell Anthony Davis on a future, but there's no question. Anthony and Rich Paul have done a good job of depressing. The market holding getting some other teams to hold back on offers because of the. The fear that it would be a one year rental, and he would walk to the Lakers. That's what their job is to do. They've done a good job of that so far. But Dinnie ages fairly undeterred on this one. Yeah. Well, it's really interesting because you're talking about the potential of kyri staying in Boston. A lot of people think there's no way that happens another note on him. You're whoa jammed from yesterday saying the Kyrenia has parted ways with his longtime agent, Jeff Wexler now expected department with Roc nation as a six time. All star prepares to become the free agent at the end of this month. So what is the significance of kyri? Switching representation to rock nation really at the twenty third hour here Roach, it is uncommon to make a change like this. So close to free agency. I don't know that impacts where Kyrie Irving is going to play next season Brooklyn is in great position. He's twenty seven years old, the venomously along time he knows what he wants. I don't think he needs at age it. Most players at that age are being dictated to by their agent where they're gonna play. Jeff Wexler did an outstanding job for kyri throws old career the drew campaigns. A lot of national marketing. And when hiring wanted to get out of Cleveland, he helped get him to the one of the organizations. He wanted to go to in Boston, but players certainly have a right to be to have the representation. They want. I'm told that Kyrie is headed toward rock nation. All right. Thanks so much, great steps. Whoa. And greenie interesting there. The rock nation in Brooklyn tie. Exactly. And so let's turn to Brooklyn's own. We'll tell you what. Brooklyn also, you know, everything about Brooke. If I'm a San what should I be taking from the fact that Kyrie is going to go to rock nation? How directly is that connection to the Brooklyn? Nets Jay Z was once part, owner of the Brooklyn nets, he sold. Oh, you're all right. All right back. He sold a portion of his team to actually get into the player agent and business. But I think that's a power move by kyri. I think Kyrie signing with Roc nation leaving jets Jeff lecturer in the twenty third hour before. All this happens state said, I'm not only coming to Brooklyn but I'm coming to Brooklyn with the heat with the flame. Like I this is a chance for me to own this city, which makes free agents breed is he still interesting all the way around. Guys want their own teams. How's that going to play out, you'll is Kyrie Irving willing to wait for a year, if that's with Kevin Durant? How who knows how that situation goes down? It's just fascinating all the way around. I listen, I've made my feelings very strong on this. I have pushed all my chips to the center of the table kyri Irving by himself to Brooklyn is a terrible move. I mean, absolutely terrible move if he could find a way to get I don't know, coli, Leonard with them, which no one's talking about. That's one thing Kevin Durant is not an option for another year. At least Kyra every Brooklyn doesn't make the nets one of the three best teams in the east. So I don't I don't know that I fully understand if it's considerations are well, beyond winning basketball games, doesn't that's one thing. But if you're looking to win you put Kyrie Irving on the nets right now. Do they do they get that much closer to a championship? I don't think so. I think there be extremely fun team to watch, you know, so to speak. But when you talk about winning the championship in the Eastern Conference, obviously, the road is much easier. But I think if both was the Depa. The possibilities of kyri in LeBron James, join him in Los Angeles, again. Kevin Durant goes down. And I think that whole conversation of him in the package deal of those guys go into Brooklyn together changes immediate. I completely go ahead. I don't I don't know if I see and I know they've been hanging out and been talking. I know they're still really good friends. I still. Nope. I see that relationship because at a narrative that will follow kyri career is a different do very he's a different guy. And I know that we wanna see people chase championships because we think that's what guys are supposed to do. But also, don't forget Kyrie's from New Jersey. Carey wants to have his own stake. Now I understand that opposing argument when we had that in Boston. But that wasn't by his Tuesday, he got traded to Boston. This is by his own choosing potentially to come the Brooklyn gives something for kyri to own as long as he can recruit other players feasible option for him. I love Kyrie Kyrie changes his mind every month about what he wants to do at the end of the day. If Kyrie Irving wants to be on a championship team again in his career. He needs to play with another great player. One who is ideally, better suited to be the leader of sort of front facing person in an organization that guy's name is LeBron. I just feel it. We're going to see the NBA go back in a way it was before ten years ago before LeBron. No, you wait. Will you wait? We're not going to have that. I think you have individuals on different teams. Maybe two guys parent up. I don't think you're going to see any more of these super teams for awhile and NBA time for everybody to observe a mom. You got to is two years. And one mile for a reason this may with we'll see there's obviously, a lot to get to, including we have to start looking ahead to game six tonight and we will. But right now, Laura let's get up and go to the drought over for Saint Louis, and the blues, you've got the voice to Stanley Cup for the first time in franchise history had to the four one road win over the Bruins in game seven last night. It was a stunning in season. Turnaround for the blues. They were dead last in the NHL in January and Ryan Riley named the contents trophy winner after becoming the first player since Wayne Gretzky in one thousand nine hundred five to score a goal and four consecutive final gains. The wind for the blues makes one fan of very happy, man. Back in January. Scott berry put down four hundred dollars on the blues to win the Cup at two fifty to one odds at the blues advance through to play off and to the Stanley Cup final berry. Steadfast about not hedging his bet. He's not one hundred thousand dollars. Richard got very, we on the daily waitered day at six eastern on ESPN news. That's fun back to the NBA the Cavaliers making history. They hired Cal Berkeley, women basketball coach windy Gottlieb as an assistant coach on Wednesday and got leave new as mayday final four and seven t h ornament the women's collegiate head coach recruited to an NBA staff to go. The US open gets underway at Pebble Beach tiger. Woods tees off at five oh, nine eastern among the favorites at Caesars sportsbook coming in at eight to one along with Brooks Pepe and just behind favorite in Johnson, who is at seven and a half to one tighter. Of course. Won the mass was back in April, but failed to make the cut at the PGA championship last month that he did not feel well, they're tighter failed to make the cut in each of his last two US open starts though. Dating back to twenty thirteen twenty six over at the US open, and twenty under at the other three major championships. You will. All be tuning in to tiger today. See what he does as well as game sick tonight. They're still much to talk about this morning on get up. And we are just getting started as if winning another NBA title isn't enough here, way Steph free and clear Thompson are extra motivated for tonight's game six and Ben Rothlisberger thing, Steelers will be very good even without into Neo Brown and Levy on bell spears thing we've played wagging said the head on get up. Spillman. Yet up is brought to you by century. Twenty one the only moves anyone remembers are the relentless ones. Relentless moon. Now, as we prepare for what will be the last game at oracle tonight, we're looking back on morning long and somebody historical nights there, maybe none greater than April, fifteenth of two thousand sixteen that was the night, the warriors won their seventy third regular season game of that season, breaking the all time record. I remember watching this, this is a huge night you see it, there step at forty six. This, of course, was pre K D. They set the all time record for most wins in season as they close out that building with night. All right. So coming here on get up in five minutes and they're gonna try and win this one for their fallen teammate j will has a lot more to say about K D. We have some football in the program today. Swaggie Dominique will be here, just how goodwill the Cowboys be this year, and then don't miss. Jalen live from Oakland and hour from now all that more as you get up with us on ESPN. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on homeowner's insurance. Because home is more than just a place. Home is where you have a cute little reading, nut for those rainy days, when you want to curl up with a good book, but you don't even read so you just sit in there during thunderstorms and scroll through means on your phone and laugh in the darkness. The Geico insurance agency could help protect the dark mean filled corner, you call home. Call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on homeowner's insurance. On get up and tonight, the K D Lewis warriors will look to stave off elimination once again in the final game at oracle arena, and once again, they will need bid for doctrine from Steph curry, and Klay Thompson here are the splash brothers talking about winning for K D, expect fans be lowest they've ever been, especially in the name of Kevin, you know, bring his type of spirit, he would bring to the fight, and in the competitiveness, Noah fans will do that because we deserve it. But more importantly, Kevin does what you gave this team Oganization. They wanna be banners if it wasn't for his presence. So we expect our crowd to be loud for him. I don't think much these it'd be said about the motivation that we have are going to have tomorrow, like likely to protect the home court feed. Oh for Kraus's energy play for k and try to keep our season allow so I mean, there's a lot of things that you can kinda tap into for, for energy tomorrow. We'll be ready. All right. Tomorrow is now today all the Barbara's on the line tonight and Jay Williams gonna show with some tape as we look for a lot of people want to blame Nick nurse for that time out. But how about this defensive Toronto? Overall was to their demise, Golden State may twenty three's greenie twenty three's. It only eighteen twos and shot forty eight percent in the three point line. And some of these defensive lapses or things that broke down in the last three minutes at a ballgame we're going to see this play developed see stuff with the ball and you bring a ball, down the court. And here's the beautiful part about this game as it goes up. Look spacing of this, right? Slip comes up. He comes up mounds up joy mound go, right? So now we have one two, three four warriors all above the free throw line Koran. Right. Look at a spacing what was up for this side of the court for three point shot. Obviously got boogie over here in the corner spacing. He brings market all out, but you're going to see the play comes up. They're going to double team step. Okay. One to one step, which allows Draymond to be free screener three months gonna screen Kawai, who's garden clay. You're gonna see Quin cook stripped down. The corner. But the most important part person here to watch. It's Norman Powell he's going to kind of be Nolan no-man's-land as the play develops like comes off rescreen here comes another prescreened. Courant rescreen. What is Norman Powell doing? He's garden Quinn cooked down here in the corner. But he needs to be up here on this action, especially considering there's no help on the screen on dreamer. Look, I wanna see boards, even though Draymond is out here body, search it and Honey owner perimeter. He's always popping back out on the perimeter with shot an opportunity that he's not gonna take. I would love to see him dive what you stated right here. Get one of the guys it on the elbows at the boxes for tag, you normal. Oren pals looking here. I mean you're watching that, if you stare here, you're not paying attention to that. That's the problem becomes off vein knockout. He's shooting fifty seven percent in the three point line in the NBA playoffs. By the way. No hot hot in another play developing. Boom, waving them through screen now this is simple. The miscommunication here. Greeny. He's already on the green. He's already in the high side, green, okay, forever, bleeds already on the high side here come on jumping switch. It's an easy switch, if you decide not to switch, because your tired. Sometimes your body can't communicate your mouth is not in tune with what's actually happened with your body. You're gonna see stuff this curl around here. And I mean, this is a this screen right here. It'd be careful screwing that screen on call for that at the end of the game. What six nine six two hundred eight five pounds on run around that. Right. As he runs around it. We'll get the late. And you can't even see it. Steph, kicks out that little leg just in case thread runs this way, which allows them to hit that leg. But once again, forty four percent three point line in the finals, he making that defensive lapses once again it's a play. Now here's a person to pay attention to greenie market soul. My man right here. Just watch him now. What's win the race starts Marcus O was running. We're booking boogie boogie back here Marcus here right now. The teachers you big to run all the way back to the pain. I can't do going. Big run all the way back to the pain, Marcus ole to the paint. Get back to the paint protective paint. But when you going against Golden State, they flare out and get the guards at three, okay? Why from Arkansas, who was he garden was Marcus guarded was Marcus all garden garden. Now, what you're going to see Iggy over here now, I want you to watch this screen. This is incredible. Yeah. They make three passes within a second within one second three passes. The ball's gonna hit Iggy. Watch out AG going to kick the ball and your dream on. And you're finally seeing boogie and get back into play. And also you're going to see a guy here in the corner, who has his hand raise who's wide open. He's naked open watch how the ball goes, not just indigo and bam. Bam all in the second greenie. So I still splash wants to talk about the Nick nurse time out. My thing is those plays psychologically down the stretch defensively. That's watchmen case it wasn't clear. Those were the last three game those. Threes. Apply. They'll try the raptors will sign when a championship for candidates tonight, thinking of Canadian championships. I'd let the Stanley Cup final last night, Laura, let's get to it. And we've got rigged EPA tro, here in studio with us, of course, a former NHL goaltender as well as hosting a radio show, ESPN ninety eight point seven called Humpty, and Canty. But let's get to the highlight you ready. Let's do it. So Bruins hosting the blues game seven Stanley Cup final in Boston. Of course a couple champs of their own. Right. Allie? Razman Julien, Edmund on hand honoring David Ortiz. First period under four minutes could go Rick Ryan Reilly tick bite to harass for the goal. Yeah. This is good ship, essentially the food shot on that in sixteen minutes for Riley in front of the net. It's been great. Better job on his thinking from here under twenty seconds ago and the blues able to keep it going. What did you see here? This is a dagger Phil marshawn in that line their their best line gets tons of offense with get caught him a long shift. That's on defense. He decides points the puck past. He's gonna change up Schwartz recognize it finds pitcher and will come late. Let's go to the third period. You see the Stanley Cup is getting ready. Who would win it sending thin. Big Dave right, there point, win grains. I'd say of the game you got eleven minutes. You make us a two one game. Now, the sudden probably won't get a chance again with the right guard. That is desperation, but that is a huge time and make a big save nine minutes ago, still trying to make something happen there and not able to take another look there whilst listen three minutes, so you went from two one Bennington doesn't let you do that fix to save in three minutes later a three-goal game, and that's pretty much. Win it Ryan Reilly wins the MVP. Here's Levi with Bennington. I heard you came in fourth on the depth chart, the start the season. Tell me what this journey has been like view, and it's a short journey or NHL rookie. Everyone you just got to believe in yourself and, and just keep working hard and just keep believing and I worked pretty hard and you know, obviously the group was incredible. And we, we mesh well and everyone was playing hard for each other. So I'm really happy with where I'm at right now. I absolutely love Jordan Beddington just confidence. You saw it right there with Steve, Levy, and as a former goal yourself, Rick. What impressed you most about him, especially some of those huge saves last night, you could actually see it before the game. And I love that clip too, because I mean, you can you can feel his team fees office confidence. You're talking about the Saint Louis blues team that on January third was the worst team in the NHL. I mean, they lost twenty two of their first thirty seven games, change their coach Bennington steps in and he's been like from fourth on the depth chart that save. You're seeing right now on March was on the power play was a huge save. With Boston did everything they needed to do in that first period, but Bennington stood in the way football players. Want to hear telling you goalie is the most important positions for we have players in here. We're not going to tell them that you swag. Most of all myself the big Ragu. Oh, I like that good pasta reference. Okay. You mentioned that the blues were in last place in January, now that the champ just put that into perspective for us a little more about the changes that they went through and then to able to be able to the Stanley Cup starts with their head coach Craig ruby. He was actually a roommate of mine. When I first came into the league in he's all about. He's all about honesty, accountability, and respect. And you could see his team fees off that and then on top of that you bring in Bennington who was lights out in February. This kid was ten and one. So he is exactly what they needed exactly what the city needed you. Get Gloria Leyla Anderson there at the game. I mean it's an unbelievable story and let's face it being here in New York to Boston need to celebrate another championship really. Well, you are from Massachusetts, and sometimes I know but I do a radio show here. New York, the big Ragu. That's our new thing. You mentioned Layla Anderson, and this is really, really special as we go to my favorite athlete of all time, right? This second eleven year old blues superfan, Leila Anderson, she's battling a life threatening. Autoimmune disease. You got to share the celebration with the blues players. She's pissed because it was an incredible moment. He's been with them and really has been sort of their heartbeat throughout this entire run. Very special rights. Unbelievable. I mean that's for me. That was the most rewarding part will be in professional athlete. And especially around Christmas time you go visit the hospitals and just didn't even know who you work. But the fact that you came and spent the time and, and she's I mean dealing with what she's dealing. She has that relationship now with Colin Perico. I mean you saw smile on his face. She gets the hoist the Stanley Cup fall in the Marrone. I mean it really is. It really was a perfect ending to a really, really good NHL season. The blues, of course, had her come within. They wanted to make sure that she was in Boston if they were able to win game seven, and that's exactly what they did. Thanks so much. Thank you for joining us here. And I think actually think that big swag you wanted to give you a little love. I'm surprised Jay wills not wearing the giant turtleneck toward the like oh look like a narrow. Where do you get that? Tell us a Moyal swagger. We go swag and Ragu. Ought to get a nickname like that number one you've got to be a superhero. It's good point. And number two close. You gotta not give a Dale. I can't be though, you know that Chris cannon you'll Bengals. It's a licensed panty. Tune in ESPN ninety eight point seven thanks so much rhythm. Glad we could coin. You never know what's going to happen. It wasn't an accident. The Dak Prescott took off last season. When the Cowboys got Amari Cooper, why Cooper wants a Cowboys do right by his quarterback. That's next on get up. We'll be right back. We're back on get up game six tonight between the warriors and Toronto. And the biggest story in sports today with all eyes on the warriors in Toronto. The injuries suffered by Kevin Durant, a ruptured achilles tendon that has dramatically changed the landscape of the series. But it's not just this series with Katie set for free agency this summer just a manically change the landscape of the league. So without a mind, I've got Koran Butler here, and it's time to talk about the dominoes falling so athlete. We named this segment. Chew on this now. I felt like for you to be fully comfortable I needed to hand you a straw. So everyone chew on this. We can go ahead and do that. Oh, there we go. Thank you. I did it the right way to kick, the Reverend okay so free agency starts June thirtieth, that's about two weeks from now and we had talked a couple of weeks ago before Kevin Durant was injured. Of course, you had said he would be the biggest domino to go in all of this. He would be the one that everybody was having there is on. So when you think about it now, where are we with Katie, and the whole complexion of this stupid? He's the biggest domino to fall, even though he's not playing next season. He's the best player on the planet so that requires but his decision to be made first. And then I think that everything else opened up, and this is going to be a domino effect, but it starts with him. He's still the major dominant. It's fascinating. Because even injured even nothing available most likely for next teeth and people still want to sign him still want to give him the max. Okay. How about after Katie who signs next who was the next big domino to fall? Look, I think his career, I think I really has a feel of xactly where he wants to go and where he wants to be. And they're not thinking the other K after that, I think, is Leonard, I think that's gonna come down to two locations where there's the Toronto Raptors or the Los Angeles Clippers and I think he has a field on where he wants to be as you'd think. Y already has a feel as you've told us now, he would be the next domino to fall advocating in Cairo read the what did that feel, what do you think he's leaning toward, because a lot of people think of Toronto win people think, man, if even MBA champion with Toronto he's going to say there. It was just the best situation possible for the raptors in why litter, where you have a riddle situation where you get to be a face of a country and win. So you're saying he doesn't stay there though. Okay. Just a flash in the pan for quite a bit out. Stroll to. Yeah. You can keep that for the rest of the show. We'll see how you talk after a thrilling game five win. Monday night, we'll be back at work for teens sticks tonight with the rafters looking to close out their first title the warriors trying to force a game seven Sunday back into Rondo. Our coverage starts with NBA countdown at eight thirty eastern on ABC and the ESPN app. Mchugh tune into that greeny to football. It is time for one of our all time favorites. It is Marcus spears here. With swag says we'll go through some of the headlines of the day. We'll hear what some folks are saying, and then we'll see what swag who says it begins with Kirk cousins who was the most talked about player in last year's NFL off-season come now. Everyone forgets where he plays. He's going to be entering the second season in Minnesota and despite some gaudy stance last year. He's more concerned about the one staff that really matters and that wins and losses. I think the next level really is all about winning. You know, I'm pretty much a five hundred quarterback in my career so far, and I don't think that's where you want to be. And that's not why you are brought in or or people are excited about just so if I don't play well if I don't have Godley statistics, but we win multiple playoff games this year. The narrative will be I went to the next level. That's what cousin says, what does wag who say, you know, one of my big things g or common denominators wanted to come and denominators is Kirk cousins was in Washington. They took Alex Smith and they were in playoff contention. Last year, the Minnesota Vikings were in the NFC championship. We case keenum Kirk cousins shows up and they don't make the playoffs. There's a common denominator Kirk cubs. Yes, he has the win the take the next step. And I like his self aware of this. He is a five hundred quarterback. Yeah he paid like a superstar quarterback. And a lot of that had to do with dances of his contract in Washington. All right, next to wag who says, Amari Cooper helped the Cowboys turnaround their season after coming over to the team in a mid-season trade from the raiders Cooper talked about continuing to build chemistry with that Prescott going into this year. Coming here. They call it a particular player. Right. And obviously I ran that play before somewhere else because football is pretty much the same place similar. So I might know the play. But I don't know how to do it. I don't know. His his thought process on that play. I don't know. Is favourite his, his favorite route to that particular place? You talk about those little things, and kind of pick his brain. Now, I know exactly what he's thinking. And the more the more I know what he's thinking on every play the better it is for me. All right. That's what I'm Ari says what this way. You know what time it is, is tend to pay that man. And he talking about them getting better together. They will good. He came and changed. Everything about Dallas offense last year when we talked about them, not having the number one receiver. But the fact that he knows that and that knows him a lot better. And both of them looking to get a lot of lot of money a lot, a lot of as what we used to say, I a lot of lot of the fact that they know, each other should bow, where for both of their pocketbooks has a league receiver is he making the best receivers of the sport right now is he one of the names, he has the potential to be that for sure. He can be a top five top ten guy in this league for Joel, he helped himself, a lot coming from Oakland last year that worked out, well for everybody. Next up a lot of changes in Pittsburgh. Of course Antonio Brown gone Levy on bell gun. The Browns are suddenly the team everyone's talking about. But talking earlier this week, Big Ben Rothlisberger says he's not buying the idea that the Steelers are an underdog. Oven here, a long time, and we're still the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're still going to go out try whenever football game. So low top since we've been to the big one. But, you know, like I said, if everyone puts forth, the effort that we all think we can with the talent that we have in this room. We feel pretty confident that we can we pretty good. That's what big band says. What does wag say I've said a lot about Big Ben at some of it even may be fighting words, but one thing I will not say is that he's not an elite quarterback. The do kin ball and this will be a better team. They're hungry. They're ready to come back. They've heard all of the Cleveland all the Browns under new darlings of that division. But being like, hey, we're still is we make the playoffs last year was an anomaly, we are spilled the Pittsburgh Steelers. So I'm saying a lot of what big band is saying, Dominic Foxworth is with us this morning as well. How many jumping I want to get your perspective on the FOX, I find this a fascinating dynamic here that all the talk about the Steelers. Is it possible that without living on bell, whom they didn't have a year ago and without Antonio Brown who remains ridiculously productive, despite all the craziness do they? Actually get better. I mean it's possible. It's not likely, but it's interesting that been Rosberg is the one who said this, because he's part of the reason why they got a little bit worse. And also, he is the only reason why they can be great this season. You said he was an elite quarterback. He hasn't always been that elite, especially in recent years. He's been a lot depending on that. And depending on some of these players that he's run out of town. So if they're going to be good, if they're going to be great. Frankly, he has to go back to that Ben Rothlisberger. That was shaking off taxes, staggers and making big place to do that in elevate the people around him because he's been accustomed to having some of the people around him. Elevate him you and I don't usually do this by. No, I disagree. With everything else, you said early. Three with the other stuff. You say Amari Cooper, we can go through on. With it, but the facts Audifax, I mean, we if we want to stay the case Kirk cousins has made things worse where where you heard cousins was cooking. You can't say that the reason why they were bad because you can get thirty a game in lose eighty two games. Man, tom. Man. That's fantastic. You're talking like a fan, you're not talking like an analyst who's been able to watch and understand that there's more complex than than gradient quarterback on how many wins the ads. How many you got eighty million dollars? That's suppose equate the. Polo. Well, you got eighty million dollars, I think you did get it w as far as I'm concerned the way I'd get my life. Two three eighty million. I sure I want to make sure I understand what you're saying. Basically, the people who try to try to put up on the screen what we're talking about. Have lost hope we apologize to them in advance. But, but what are you saying? You believe that Kirk cousins had a good year in Minnesota, and it wasn't his fault that team fell back. I made Kirk cousins. No. I don't think it was his fault that team fell back. There are a lot of issues they've moved on from their office coordinator, or a lot of issues on that team didn't seem that. Are you arguing that Kirk cousins that case keenum is better than Kurt cousins? That is foolish nece. Well, I'm not arguing that case keenum is big Kirk cousins arguing is, is that when case keenum was the quarterback there, they were in the NFC championship, and when he left Washington they were not in playoff contention. And when Alex when we were when I got here, today it started raining, so maybe maybe I am impacting. The rain looked looked in the rain. What, what does what goes on a quarterback record? A lotta things wins and losses. Does it go into what is going to run? It backs dolphins of land. Defense plan ails goals on a quarterback record. I like the pretend that it's more complicated than that, because that's why they pay. Well, don't pretend they paid him eighty million dollars to get ws. And this is why has the best team in the business. Ladies and gentlemen, we continue in just a moment here on get up and find her. We got a huge fight Saturday night. You can only see it on ESPN plus undefeated, heavyweight champ, Tyson fury taking on time shorts and he's scheduled twelve round main event, you can stream the under cards on ESPN two ESPN deportees starting at seven eastern. Start your free trial of ESPN plus by downloading the ESPN app or visiting ESPN, plus dot com. 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