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The Secrets of RHONY Real Estate (with Laurie Cooper)

Bravo TV's Daily Dish

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

The Secrets of RHONY Real Estate (with Laurie Cooper)

"<music> Hi. I'm Megan Sarah and I'm Eric J. Man. This is the daily Dish Bravo's official podcast. I sat down with real estate legend Laurie Cooper. You may recognize her as derivatives relocate agent on Roni and more recently she appeared on our podcast to surprise comedian heather McMahon who is absolutely obsessed with her. She jumped right into the interview and talked about her celebrity. Real estate encounters. You will not want to miss her story about Kanye. West what it's like working with some of the ladies from real housewives of New York City and she gives us some free advice on buying in the Big Apple. Here's her interview I met her. She was always talking up a storm and when you put a microphone in front of her she's like perfect. Oh Yeah we've had a couple of times shit talk about any subject and she's great daughters like a little bit too talkative. Have you aradio show. Yes yes right. You know why she's a great host. She knows how to get you see being a real estate broker. You had to get information information from your Client Times. They don't WanNa talk to me again but tell me everything right. It's the biggest investment they'll ever make because and they have to be careful so you find out all about the husband's the girlfriends sex life ooh everything. I've gone into apartments where they were totally. I walked in with a client. Had the key walked in all my God what I've found found table here who took his hat because he was a captain and covered himself. He was NATO it out. I walked in saw the but we walked on my. I've found them in bed because sometimes the it's an overnight thing and then now were broker has the key and she forgot. She had this thing overnight and she forgot and I walk in. It's happened so so many times I can't tell you but this is a great business. Academy Awards took my whole family I had a friend Robert wise sound onto music west side story and they loved me and so they took me to the Academy Awards with my children and my husband we rented a a white Rolls Royce so that when you pulled up and all those many years ago our cause because at that time had a very big real estate eight firm I had sixty people work for us and they're all watching and I went to international awards. It was like the best wow I went into her closet at home and she was size clothes millicent wise. You've lived the life I've had I had an it's been an interesting run because you really become friends with a lot of clients. Of course we'll tell us. I've been to a castle as a party in Italy. I've had some great experiences. We'll tell us a little bit about how you met Dorada. Originally she was brought you onto the show winter. I had an apartment for sale. Young couple bought it and they were very good friends of Durand. The children went to school together sacred heart it during this little girl was like five she just started and I met her ex has been who was very nice he was from London and they had not gotten divorced yet. She was just in the throes of getting divorced and I said to render. I think the best thing to do with the money that you getting by real estate and so she listened and we bought that apartment. I don't remember how cheap it was like eight hundred eight and a quarter she can get two million into now three wow and now she's fixing it up making it nice to make it nice see she's making the Berkshires House nice to. There's some renovations going on up there. No she loved that was where she grew up. <hes> that was where parents live but she didn't have that kind of money in those years. When I met her right and uh-huh I went through relationships. She called me from wherever she was on my God is he difficult to handle <hes> what that means but but I had so much fun with her because she's very easy to be with very much my style. I could talk to her. <hes> I give advice to all my clients being the old woman I've been through it. All and some of these women are so stupid. It's so easy to keep someone happy. You just have to be smart yeah well. Can you talk a little bit about. There's been a lot of fan reaction to your presence on the show. So what does that been like on social media had so much social media going out and when I went down to the parade <hes> I had the best time because people recognize me men. We're coming out of their parade line to take photos with me. All the windows broke Laurie. Yeah a lot of people didn't know Cooper. They just Laura broker but there is cooper there yeah and of course I'm doing. This won't say many but over thirty years <hes> I've been there a long time yeah. I've seen it all. I've seen it when you could buy a Fifth Avenue apartment inside of ninety thousand dollars. Can you imagine now they sell right right now. For eight million ten million you didn't have to be smart just had to be lucky yeah and there was those people that didn't want to buy hi there. Were none of victim plan. You could actually stay in your rental and some chose to do that was so stupid and I would go speak speak to these people and I used to hunter high school and have an audience of own of potential buyers and try to tell them which by hi now is going to go up in value trust me little. Did we know kept going and going and going right and look what story now I mean when I went to Hudson yards party last week the hotel opening <hes> it's amazing. We have a city within a city yeah. There isn't a part of New York Walk. That isn't fabulous. I was selling lowy eastside every ABC. Terrible drugs sold on every corner and my husband said you can't go down there. It's dangerous. I went down. I sold block four hundred fifty thousand dollars. How smart again I watched people real estate make so much money you know what is the best city in the world is going to continue and then if you're a smart buyer. You're going to buy something that will eventually go up because the rentals are very high now so you're making the landlord rich not not making yourself rich. What are some of your tips then for people who are looking for apartments not just in New York City or places to buy anywhere. Really you always have to buy the cheapest in the most expensive location. He'll always do well always always because there's always a demand to be surprised. Prized is a lot of people running around now looking to buy all over the United States Vegas. My brother lives there. The market's really gone up so so there is a demand there are many Europeans love Las Vegas. It's interesting. I go to Italy. I Oh my God look at this is so beautiful I walk Capri which is gone nineteen times and they stopped me. Where are you from. I Say New York and they said I left my Hot New York doc and so. I'm thinking look at this view. I have look what they have here but New York is yeah had a fabulous housing cop Farrah aw for sixty eight million euro. I think Europe is the next best place to buy interesting because what's it's happened is the economy is very bad there and what happens is a lot of people have inherited families homes. They never sell it. <hes> suceed to see these beautiful castles really run down but everybody has a romance with Italy rundown castle. Take take anything. Italy yeah really best for lives in Rome. I'm there all the time so I had <hes> remember Ben. Kozara gave me his house house for sale there but the time to buy things like that I think is now because the dollar to the euro and everybody's frantic <hes> MHM all come back. Yeah beauty never goes away. It's always there. It's an escape people so in love with these foreign countries yeah south of France. Italy is just the best of the best yeah and New York is still the city of the world. I believe it was speaking of New New York. I want to ask about the other ladies from Roney that you know so. We know you know to render. Who else are you friends with well. Luanne I met before she started a friend of mine that I know whose husband owned the Carlisle Hotel. They were there for a party and I had gone in because Sushi is my client is sold her apartment. I had to give her some papers and Llewellyn was there with her then husband the count <hes> so I met him and she said Said Oh. Can I ask you a question. I said what she's what's New York housewife all about I have no idea just can I call you to ask you what a new. Gawk housewife is all about and of course. She learned pretty quickly so you were like a mentor well count. She wanted yes. She wanted to know what it was all all about and so they learn pretty quickly yeah what the typical. New York housewife is like to. I know others I know a lot. What about Ramona <hes>. She looks fabulous. Yeah the women put themselves together okay. I think the Beverly Hills housewives put themselves together great. They got a style all their own. That's like the culture I feel like on the West Coast. Yeah but you know if you go to. LA NOBODY DRESSES I go there. I go shopping at the stores but everyone's in jeans. A casual. No one's wearing anything great is on the BRA. Would you go wearing those clothes right well that was. I thought Denise Richards face this season. She was like they were like Oh. It's casual and they'd show up to a party denise would be in a tank top and shorts and all the other women wearing gowns or they word Jean Jacket on something very casual Jean Jacket not thinking wow this is not the right look New York women dress to go out in the evening. <hes> my time was very different sixty seventies. You dressed up at night. You went dancing. You went to a club up. I was single. We went out to a club at night hotel. It go to an saying I'd have evening coats and every call it a go over my formal attire. Course cushite never wear the same thing twice. You went out but you had crinolines. You had match shoes t address. It was amazing yeah so different than it is now right so the women now the New York housewives. Are they working. If they're not working they spend their day shopping <hes> MHM but but the the trend now is to wear what you wear the office at night so the New York housewife housewife has to be a little bit more conservative because it's that New York look and what's expected of you but the glamorous there yeah. They say whatever ever they want. I mean it keeps you going because the more they yeldham. Will they scream the more they drink which they whole wants. I WANNA it'd be a boring broker when I came onto came to derail his home because that's not my style. I don't think let me show you this. Oh look at this closet. Walk in look at this walk in class. This is not what I'm about right. I have to say what it is. I've sold Kanye West I had gone with his mother and him wow those years ago and she was great and she went to century twenty one shopping and she bought these crazy closed. She bought them back. Jack Kennedy said no mom doesn't go together but she enjoyed the start of his celebrity yeah and he was lucky because the record company was paying for his rental and the budget was five thousand dollars. I said five thousand dollars which was a lot of money in those years. There's by something yeah so he said you know and they agreed by an apartment and he still has that so you advise con- yeah on an apartment purchase. None was in L. A. New York here in New York. Still has a he still has been connected to the one next door but the minute he walked in he looked at three things things and he loved this open kitchen that whole look and then. I went shopping with him. West village. We walked around the stores. WHO'VE LOVE CLOTHES. He went into to this one store where they had this furniture with. The couch was stuffed animals all filled with he loved it. It was like a way out kind of a little. Oh freaky a little freaky but he liked it. It's funny. I'm buying this and he had that kind of taste yeah. He was a great son. <hes> warm lovely when he walked with me my arm. He was just a lovely person. I really enjoyed my time with him. Yeah Ted other celebrities. Alvis stone is my client okay. You did the movie Wall Street. <hes> and I was the broker in there that he used with the show on his shoulder. My hair was very curly. Oh by this by that my husband's a mortgage broker which your what would she was and of course he bought the apartment armament at that time and at that time he was dating this woman and he had been turned down down another building because he had done that movie that was a scary movie and people were fearful of him <hes> so I put him into to a condominium and he had large dogs so needed central park and so he loved it but when he did the movie put me in there all right was chatting with strong storm and the way I am. I had Robertson Euros my client and his wife. I know very well yeah anyway now. They're getting divorced so whatever we send to be actually ready. They went back together. I want to ask your perspective to a lot out of real. Estate has been the topic of conversation on Roni between all of the women are investing in new properties this season. Bethany is really big real estate mogul herself. Ramona Ramona has an opinion about the Hamptons and it's that south of the highway is preferred. Do you agree with Ramona the market's off their now okay the first thing when when people get nervous they'll let go the house. They're not letting the apartment south of the highway was always the in spot but north is beautiful reform because you're not one on top of the other and you got a lot of farmlands. I've been going to the Hamptons over fifty years so I'm really familiar familiar with it. It's all beautiful. All of New York lives. They're all of New York. You see on the street. Everybody loves the HAMPTONS. I've been there I've seen and I've had it whatever but the market is going to soften there and has softened yeah I mean I rented a house for two months for thirty five thousand dollars now the getting the three hundred fifty thousand dollars. That's where the money's gone so. It's an investment like everything if you buy correctly lake. It's an investment. It's interesting if you do a little work be surprised to get more money. If you stage it you get more money. <hes> lot of people don't have vision and if wants to same with apartments in New York. Some people want to Gut Rehab could be a nightmare bishop report of directors. There's no you can't do this. You can't do that. They have to approve this. You have to go to the city. It becomes a long nightmare and when you're waiting for your apartment and you're living elsewhere. You have to figure out what it's costing you to live somewhere else right so that's why you have the big craze in New York walk that started a number of years ago for condominiums easy. When I was selling them many years ago they will one bedrooms. Nobody wants to pick apartment so with the coops I did the same thing next door neighbor to want to sell because the demand end was for biggest space and families was starting to buy these apartments than they were pushing the walls living in junior one bedroom with a child pushing the wall that was on the cover of New York magazine of course condo market is what everyone wants new construction then are coming coming up so fast anymore but this sure a lot on the agenda yeah. Did you ever cross paths with Barbara because we've seen our Corcoran Robert Robert Kapp caveat from this season of real housewives of New York. She's a contractor so I wasn't sure if you've ever seen her before. How can I have never run into her. <hes> Barbara Corcoran. I know okay okay but different different from Barbara. Another thing too is Luanne purchased a home upstate and there was a lot of conversation this season with Ramona about Kingston not being as desirable as Rhinebeck. Do you remind with as you bought that roundhouse. That'll that's not my idea of investment and that's the thing I feel like land was sort of saying. I don't know if this is necessarily an investment but more of a you know getaway. Hey for her but you buy with you. Never know your future. Yeah you WANNA sell it. People sell die here be surprised they sell it. You don't know oh the circumstances of your life and that house to me was not what I would think a great investment. It was odd bathroom. The kitchen was in one of the bedrooms. It was very the art how well the I said. It's round so that the devil can never corner so there's some superstition attached to that how many people superstitious when it comes to the money that everything changes face when it comes to the money you always have to buy what you can sell and and you want to buy correctly a lot of money interest rates alone now but what's killing the city is the mansion tax so all my foreign buyers that were buying here have to think twice because it's now going up so much so when you purchase that one percent is now four a percent inexpensive apartment but there are there are buildings that figured it out. I just saw something from toll brothers though pay your maintenance for a few years so it makes up for the mansion you have to be this is the moment to try to really figure out what's going retract you buyer. It's a sluggish market. <hes> downtown cells quickly was selling had listing the twenty five thousand a month four hundred. West twelve. Every celebrity came through there as like Tinsley came. Oh but K. with her mother was very lovely. I Love Dale Great Girl. They came in the problem with that apartment was. She has lot of gowns but she never bought anything downtown. Actually when I saw her the the float I said do you remember me. You looked at four hundred West twelve. Did you remember you. It was so much going on right yeah. They were like there were millions of people out there and I managed to get to the Bravo. How did you get the that's a good story. I said to render I'll get there. She's Oh it's so hard I said. Where are you what street I managed I just and then when I said the word Pravo though the cops was so impressed with Oh my God you're on Bravo rate come here. My wife loves it. Oh my goodness. Can I take a picture of you and then running <music> out of the parade or these guys. Oh Lori and you can always play the Bravo card and you know it's GonNa pay off. It's a great program. I had a Bravo client about twenty years ago. She worked at Bravo. Okay and I said to her. If you WANNA be smart you follow me around you real estate on Bravo. She didn't pick up on it was picked up years later because you know any of the guys on million dollar listing thing of course yellow everybody I know them. I Know Ryan know them. All <hes> the best. You know what I am. I am real. They have their way of doing things. I have my way of doing things. I've maintained my friendships over the years with my clients women that are in their forties. I know everything about them. I go to lunch with them. Whatever part of their life so when I I showed something I never waste anybody's time I'M NOT SLEEK UNREAL. Do you have your own real housewives tagline. Keep drinking drinking. I feel like it could be something like keeping it real with real estate or something. I feel like there's state would be good good even with the New York housewives because if you show them what's round Ramona just sold for my son if you look out of his window you see where she sold her at UC Ramon. That's great. Thank you so much. Laurie thanks for coming in and remember watching. Bravo isn't a guilty pleasure itself care. Let's keep the conversation going. We WanNa talk to you all week. Long not just Thursdays you can find us on twitter or Instagram at Bravo ATV. Don't forget to use the Hashtag Bravo daily dish or reach out to US personally. I'm everywhere at Mexico and I'm Eric J Mac E. R. I K. and if we're on facebook join the daily dish facebook group. You can post about what you're watching your favorite shows. Who's your favorite housewife. Ask a question start some drama. There's a lot of good stuff in there so check it out. You could also learn more about the podcasts at Bravo. TV Dot Com by nine and I got my girl with boys.

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Encore: Stuck In Transit

Kind World

00:00 sec | 5 months ago

Encore: Stuck In Transit

"Produced by the Isla at Wbz you are Boston. Hi everyone this never. Today I've got a great classic kind world episode for you to stories about finding a new home and starting life over. Things that seem daunting almost impossible. Until, you realize that there are people who have your back. Here's a classic episode stuck in Transit. Hasaan I. Can tar from Syrian city called Suada? He grew up with two siblings in a tight knit middleclass family. Dad was an engineer. Mom was a nurse. We have a lot of cousins, big family, whose but it's been more than a decade since Hassan has seen his family now, he just has fond memories of their time. Together are used to go to. My father every weekend a small farm would some of these and small house with no electricity, but. There would he teach me a the value of the nature? How do not forget my roots? In two thousand and six Hasaan traveled to a wealthier state. The United Arab Emirates UAE hoping to give his family greater financial security. But in twenty eleven, everything changed. The assault began at first light, the Syrian regime bringing wall to a city of seven hundred thousand. A brutal civil war broke out in Syria Hassan. If he went back home, he'd be forced to serve in. The army was against my principles, my mom. It's W-. It's not why I born. In this life I onto felt not destroy and kill. Has Sounds father died in two thousand sixteen. He couldn't attend his funeral. and. He says what really eight at him is that he wished the opportunity to make his father truly proud. When Hasaan was eventually expelled from the UAE, he went to Malaysia under a temporary visa. When that ran out, he booked a ticket to Ecuador. Where travelers can usually get a visa upon entry. His mother even sold a gold necklace to help pay for the ticket around two thousand dollars. I double checked everything before I book. The took it because I knew that. It's my last chance. As Has San was waiting to board. The airline staff abruptly cancelled his ticket without an explanation or a refund. So there. He was stuck at the Kuala Lumpur airport in Malaysia, unable to leave the terminal with no money nor visa to go anywhere else. Hasaan frantically sent messages to embassies and international groups. No response nothing helpful anyways. Desperate he took out his phone and started recording himself and posting on twitter. I have been here for the last five days now. I'm stuck in gear the TRANSA-. And there's other places or countries. Accepting Gus. Don't go try door. His videos caught the attention of someone very far away. By the time we heard about his son. He'd been in the airport for about thirty five days. Laurie Cooper is a fifty eight year old mother of two adult children from Whistler British. Columbia she teams up with other volunteers to privately sponsor Syrian refugees to come to Canada in Hassan situation I kind of thought. Well his mom can't help him but I'm a position. Where might be able to help him? So my personal motivation really comes from. I think that feeling of being a mom. but that at heart is kind of just carrying about other human beings. Laurie sent applications and letters on Hassan behalf. She collected tens of thousands of signatures for a petition to Canada's immigration minister. I entered on. March seven today's joy sakes. But this days turned into months and has San was still at the airport. He was sleeping under a stairwell, eating leftover airline food, which was always the same rice bowl with a small piece of chicken. There's lowest show Biz noblest asleep. I am even sick, but. There's no minister and this sound I. I swear to I hate this song. Everywhere. Night! Despite all, he was going through Hasaan kept a lot of is social media posts light making jokes and celebrating the little things are just goes to show it. Yup. You'll showing that it'll things on your life more. You would start appreciating more. That was what I was trying to do by. Doing the normal stuff to refuse the reality and to keep remind myself and the other all the outside world that. I'm still human who deserve to be treated as a human host food live A. Normal life, but he was often reminded of just how far from normal this living nightmare was like on his one hundred and seventy four th day, when his younger brother got married, and he couldn't be at the wedding. Hassan's most difficult days, though came seven months after he arrived at the airport, he was arrested by thirteen armed guards, taken to a small cold cell and threatened with deportation Syria. Lori was traveling when she heard the news. If he had been deported to Syria, he'd certainly would have been imprisoned, and it's highly likely that he would have been killed so I really felt that. He was in a life or death situation and I thought what the Heck I never thought in my life that I would be. Fighting for the life of some person. I've never even. Has Son was in the dark. The guards wouldn't let him talk to anyone. Still he believed Lori was still fighting for him. I had the like the peace of mind that. That it's going to be okay at. That day finally came about two months later when Laurie got an alert from Canadian officials, Hassan's sponsorship papers had finally been approved basically twenty four hours notice that he was coming to. Canada and that was just unbelievable. I knew that it's going to happen one day. But. I did not even it will be that much beautiful and truly. When I saw him at the airport, it really just felt like my son was coming home. My son was home now Hasaan has been living with Lori and her family since November as he adjusts his new life in Canada. He still can't go home. It's too dangerous, but he's on a mission to try to help other series like him. Tell their stories and help them find refuge something. His father would have wanted him to do so. Somehow are have the. Bee's. That he's he's happy. Hasaan imagine what is father would say to him now after everything he's been through I'm proud if you. That's what he is going to tell them. Out If you. Keep an eye on the firmly. Don't forget your people. Welcome back to kind world, so yeah, I mean. It's wonderful to hear that. Hassan is starting a new chapter in his life, but at the same time his story is far from over absolutely not an I think about that fact a lot I mean we're both from immigrant families Andrei Yours from Venezuela minus from Egypt. Both of our families came here to the US in the nineties and starting over is not easy. We know that from experience you have to learn a language and not to mention finding friends and a community. It can get really really lonely at times. Yeah, and I. Think it's really. Really, important to talk about that piece of the puzzle and I WanNa take you to the other coast of Canada for this story, it's from teeny tiny town called antagonists in Nova Scotia where the population is just five thousand people, and that's where totic had a twenty seven year old doctor and his family live now there from Damascus, and actually his extended family is huge like sixty people. They all lived in one ten story building. Wow, yeah, but in twenty twelve during the civil war they remember this horrifying week that they spend an basement while hearing bombs and helicopters overhead after few nights of. Fear of anxiety of not knowing gives that rules could collapse our at any point of time. We decided that we were not born to die basement, we'd cited that be should go out should just re trying to find a safer place for the family so leaving everything they've ever known was a matter of life and death. Yeah, exactly, and even though toddlers and his family members survived, they still suffered devastating losses mainly his family's chocolate factory that his father started in one, thousand, nine, hundred six, and they worked so hard to build this into a successful empire, and then it was bomb. How do you even move on from that? Well the family went from living in one building to scattering all across the world and todd takes immediate family. They all came to Canada where they were granted residency. Here's todd describing what happened when he landed, I arrived around at the time of midnight, and they saw a group of safety five, but they are there waiting for me cutting flowers and signs with my name inadequate in English, and they were saying welcome to Canada I told them waiting on his ideas at the S, but I'm sure I'm not that you're looking for. And they told me yes, sure like it's I. Don't know anyone from you guys topic. How did that feel when you walked into the airport? You know. Do you remember how that felt? When you saw these people and learned about all this? It's really elect to me. That will moment. Of kindness of compassion of integrity the humanistic spirit of these people really has inspired me since then. That's quite a welcome, and and you mentioned that there now an antagonistic so had tar even heard of. Before he was told that this was now his new home. No, he had trouble finding it on a map. I mean frankly and I didn't know about the city. But his story gets even better. I mentioned that there. Chocolate factory was destroyed in the war. And the family eventually did start making chocolate again, but just on a small scale they were working out of their kitchen, and in two thousand sixteen, they donated some of their profits to help victims of these devastating fires in Fort mcmurray. Yeah, remember reading. Those fires were one of the costliest disasters in Canada's history. Yeah, exactly, and so when the community saw how the had had family helped others they wanted to help them, and so their attention turned to this empty, little factory next to the head home, and they started helping them turn it into a chocolate factory. All of the town they came. In the whole summer of Twenty Sixteen, and that's small tiny factory beside our house was been a support. The carpenters of Asians plumbers business counselors everyone from the town that they could come in after they finish their work at five PM. Everyone came supported us and volunteered all time just to build. The factory, the small little tiny factory. Amazing the kindness of this community this was the community that waited for them at the airport. Welcome them, and now they helped them rebuild their livelihoods. Yeah, exactly so listen to what Taty has to say about that. My grandfather told us once before he Immigration can be even harder than death and being forced to leave your. Your land is so much other than this. But really candidate has a stat It doesn't matter where you born. You can be long at a new home. Because with matters is the people down in given another chance fly for the biggest ammunition so now thanks to his antagonists, family their chocolate company. It's called piece by chocolate. It's expanding their hiring people in this tiny little town right now. There are about forty five employees, but todd says that by twenty twenty two. He hopes it'll be more like five hundred people in that's going to include more Syrians who were resettled, think about how many generations and antagonized that that's going to affect for decades to come. Andrea thank you so much for telling me the story. Yeah, absolutely and really thanks to todd for sharing his beautiful story with us, and we'll have a new kind world episode next Tuesday in the meantime. Share your story with us. Email us at kind world at W., B. U. R., dot org or find us on social media at WB. You are kind world. Thanks for listening to kind world are shows a production of WB. You are Boston's NPR station Paul Viking. Matt Reduce Sound Design Sophie Eisenberg our WB your fellow Catherine. Brewer is managing producer and editor an Irish. Adler is our executive producer. I miss me. Namur and my co host is Andrea Sway. We'll be back with a new episode of kind rolled next. Tuesday until then have a great weekend.

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Stuck in Transit

Kind World

15:26 min | 1 year ago

Stuck in Transit

"Hi, kind world listeners. We wanted to tell you about another podcast. You might like it's called conversations with people who hate me online exchanges can often get well, ugly. So what happens when you move them off line? Dylan Merrin is a writer and video maker who calls up some of the folks who wrote those messages to ask one simple question, why the conversations are sometimes awkward often political and always fascinating find the podcast conversations with people who hate me on apple podcasts or Spotify. You can also had two conversations with people who hate me dot com. Produced by the island at WBZ are Boston. Welcome to kind world where we tell stories about transformative acts of kindness. I'm Andrea spy. And I'm yes Munem. So Andrea before I was fortunate enough to tell these types of stories some of my first journalism assignments ever were actually about war, specifically Syria. I talked to people on the ground there to try to get a picture of what was happening. And I remember so many of the details being just harrowing. Yeah. This is a war. That's lasted way longer than anyone in -ticipant, it'd and it's displaced almost six million Syrians throughout it. Yeah. And each one of those Syrians has story. I spoke to one man who shared his with us. Old son of Qatar is from a Syrian city called Suada. He grew up with two siblings in a knit middleclass family. Dad was an engineer mom was a nurse. We have a lot of cousins big family. He lose. But it's been more than a decade since his son has seen his family. Now, he just has fond memories of their time. Together are used to go to farm father every weekend. Small farm would some all threes and moan house with no electricity. But there would hate each me. The value of the nature out. Little not forget, my roots in two thousand and six Hasaan traveled to a wealthier state, the United Arab Emirates, are you a e hoping to give his family greater financial security, but in twenty eleven everything changed. The assault began at first light the Syrian regime bringing wall to a city of seven hundred thousand. A brutal. Civil war broke out in Syria. Hasaan new if he went back home he'd be forced to serve in the army was against my principles my moral. It's what. It's not why born in this life. I onto felt not destroy. Hasan's father died in two thousand sixteen. He couldn't attend his funeral. And he says what really aided him is that he wished for the opportunity to make his father truly proud when Hasaan was eventually expelled from the UAE. He went to Malaysia under a temporary visa when that ran out. He booked a ticket to Ecuador where travelers can usually get a visa on entry his mother even sold a gold necklace to help him pay for the ticket around two thousand dollars. Double check everything before I booked took it because I knew that it's my last chance as Hasaan was waiting to board the airline staff abruptly cancelled his ticket without an explanation or a refund. So there he was stuck at the Kuala Lumpur airport in Malaysia unable to leave the terminal with no money, nor visa to go anywhere else. Hasaan frantically sent messages to embassies and international groups. No response, nothing helpful anyways, desperate. He took out his phone and started recording himself and posting on Twitter. I have been here for the last five days. Now, I'm stuck in gear. The transit zoo. And there's no other places or countries accepting us. Don't know. What should I do? His videos caught the attention of someone very far away. By the time. We heard about his son he'd been in the airport for about thirty five days. Laurie Cooper is a fifty eight year old mother of two adult children from Whistler, British Columbia. She teams up with other volunteers to privately sponsor Syrian refugees to come to Canada in his son situation. I kind of thought well, his mom can't help him. But I'm a position where I might be able to help him. So of my personal motivation really comes from. I think that feeling of being a mom, but that at heart is kind of just carrying about other human beings. Lori sent applications and letters on Hasan's behalf. She collected. Tens of thousands of signatures for a petition to Canada's immigration minister, blue are you entered mar seven today's your faith, but just days turned into months and has San was still at the airport. He was sleeping under a stairwell eating leftover airline food, which was always the same rice bowl with a small piece of chicken to show those to sleep. I'll even sick. But. There's no medicine and this sound I said to my hate this. Everywhere. The despite all he was going through has sand. Kept a lot of a social media posts light making jokes and celebrating. The little things are just goes the focus. Would start showing that it'll things on your life more. You will start appreciating it more. That was I will what what I was trying to do by doing the normal stuff to refuse reality. And to keep remind myself and other all the outside world that I'm still human who deserve to be treated as a human host should live normal life. But he was often reminded of just how far from normal this living nightmare was like on his one hundred seventy four th day when his younger brother got married, and he couldn't be at the wedding has most difficult days, though, came seven months after here rive at the airport. He was arrested by thirteen armed guards take into a small cold cell and threatened with deportation to Syria. Lori was traveling when she heard the news if he had been deported to Syria, he'd certainly would have been imprisoned, and it's highly likely that he would have. Been killed. So I really felt that you know, he was in a life or death situation. And I thought what the heck I never thought in my life that I would be fighting for the life of some person. I've never even met. Hasaan was in the dark the guards. Wouldn't let him talk to anyone still. He believed Lori was still fighting for him are had the like the bees of mine. The that it's going to be okay. At that day. Finally came about two months later when Laurie got an alert from Canadian officials Hasaan sponsorship papers had finally been approved basically twenty four hours notice that he was coming to Canada. And that was just unbelievable. I knew that it's going to happen one day. But. I did not even it would be that much beautiful and truly when I saw him at the airport. It really just felt like my son who's coming home. My son was home now has gone has been living with Lori and her family since November as he adjusts his new life in Canada. He still can't go home. It's too dangerous. But he's on a mission to try to help other series like him tell their stories and help them find refuge. Something has father would have wanted him to do somehow know a of the bees that he's he's happy has San imagined. What is father would say to him now after everything he's been through umbrella? If you does what he is going to tell me. Proud of you. Keep an eye on the feminity. Don't forget your people. Welcome back to kind world. So yes, I mean, it's wonderful to hear that Hassan is starting a new chapter in his life. But at the same time his story is far from over. Absolutely. Not an I think about that fact a lot. I mean, we're both from immigrant families Andrei yours is from Venezuela. Mine is from Egypt. Both of our families came here to the US in the nineties and starting over is not easy. We know that from experience you have to learn the language and not to mention finding friends and a community. It can get really really lonely at times. Yeah. And I think it's really important to talk about that piece of the puzzle. And I wanna take you to the other coast of Canada for this story. It's from a teeny tiny town called Anna Ganesh in Nova Scotia where the population is just five thousand people, and that's where Totic had had a twenty seven year old doctor and his family live now there from Damascus and actually. His extended family is huge like sixty people. They all lived in one ten story building. Wow. Yeah. But in twenty twelve during the civil war, they remember this horrifying week that they spend in a basement while hearing bombs and helicopters overhead after few nights of fear of anxiety free. Not knowing that rules elapsed on at any point of time. We decided that we were not born to die in a basement. We'd cited that be should go out should just retry to find a safer face for the family. So leaving everything they've ever known was a matter of life and death. Yeah. Exactly. And even though Todic in his family members survived. They still suffer. Devastating losses. Mainly his family's chocolate factory that his father started in nineteen eighty six and they worked so hard to build this into a successful. Empire. And then it was bombed. How do you even move on from that? Well, the family went from living in one building to scattering all across the world and Todd X immediate family. They all came to Canada where they were granted residency. Here's Totic describing what happened when he landed arrived around at the time of mies nights. They so of thirty five, but they are there waiting for me, cutting Slough hours in signs with my naming advocate in English. And they're saying welcome to Canada, Terry. I told them waiting for Atari that you're looking for. And they told me. Yes, you sure like it's I don't know anyone from you guys tonic. How did that feel when you walked into the airport? You know, do you remember how that felt when you saw these people and learn about all this? It's it's really a lot to me that will moment of kindness of compassion of integrity. The humanistic spirit of these people really has inspired me since then now, that's quite a welcome. And you mentioned that they're now an antagonistic so had tar even heard of Antigone before he was told that this was now his new home. No, he had trouble finding on a map. I mean, frankly, you, and I didn't know about the city, but his story gets even better. I mentioned that their chocolate factory was destroyed in the war and the family eventually did start making chocolate again, but just on a small scale they were working out of their kitchen and in two thousand sixteen they donated some of their profits to help victims of these devastating fires in fort McMurray yard, remember reading those fires were one of the costliest disasters in Canada's history. Yeah. Exactly. And so when the community saw how the had had family helped others they wanted to help them. And so their attention turned to this empty little factory next to the head head home. And they started helping them turn it into a chocolate factory. All of the town. They caved in the whole summer of twenty sixty and that's small tiny factory beside our house was the support of carbon tres of electricians, plumbers business counselors, everyone from the town that they come in after they finish their work is life. VM? Everyone came in support us and volunteered at all time. Just to been the factory the small little tiny factory, amazing the kindness of this community. This was the community that waited for them at the airport. Welcome them. And now they help them rebuild their livelihoods. Yeah. Exactly. So listen to a Totic has to say about that. My grandfather told us once before he died in says five immigration can be even harder than death and being forced to leave. Your your land is so much harder than this. But really Canada has ruled us that it doesn't matter where you are gone. You can't belong at the new home. Because matters is the people around you in given another chance to fly for that big a family. So now, thanks to his antagonists family their chocolate company. It's called piece by chocolate. It's expanding their hiring people in this tiny little town right now there are about forty five employee's. But Todd says that by twenty twenty two he hopes it'll be more like five hundred people, and that's going to include more Syrians who were resettled think about how many generations and to Ganesh that that's gonna fact for decades to come. Andrea. Thank you so much for telling me the story. Yeah. Absolutely. And really thinks to Todic Hudd Hudd for sharing his beautiful story with us, and we'll have a new kind world episode next Tuesday. In the meantime, share your story with us Email us kind world at WBZ dot org or find us on social media at WB. You are kind world. Kind world is a production of WB. You are Boston's NPR station. Paul vicous does our sound design. Gabby Murkowski is our intern. An Irish Adler is our executive producer. I'm reporter and producer. 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100- MOTHER COOPER

Call Her Daddy

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100- MOTHER COOPER

"Honey I'm home. Oh guys are you sick of hearing me say that? No, you're not wait me either because it's free guys honey is call her daddy's presenting sponsor. You know the drill honey is a free browser extension that you download onto your computer and then single time you go to check out whatever you're shopping for shoes, clothes, accessories, dildos, Dick's whatever prostitutes you name it honey. Honey is going to automatically drop down when you go to check out and it's going to say, Hey, we have coupons do you want to save money and then you're GonNa say, yes sure apply coupons ups applied coupons and then you watch your price go down from ten fifteen, twenty, thirty dollars I literally saved so much money because of honey and it's free. Also, if you guys haven't downloaded honey yet when you use my link, you will receive five dollars directly deposited into your then. Mo Account Excuse me Switz- free in your about to get free five dollars. You're welcome guys get honey today and sign up to receive five dollars directly deposited venue count. You're going to go to join honey dot com slash daddy to install honey and creating account with the same email address that you use for your Ben Mo and then you're GonNa get free honey and free five dollars case you're GonNa go to join honey dot com slash Dadi you're welcome I love you. Let's go. What is up. Daddy Gang. Father Alex Cooper with. Mother fucking gain what is up is your founding fall back cut it. For not another episode of Call Her Daddy. But the one hundredth fucking episode of call her mother. Fucking Daddy. How the hell are you guys doing today? It's a good fucking day. That Gang I put a lot of thought into this episode because I really wasn't sure who is worthy to sit across from me on this beloved episode I heard the Daddy Gang and everyone's like Oh my God we have to its one hundred episode. This is amazing. Let celebrate. And I'm like who the fuck would I have on this episode and then I realized. That this show wouldn't exist. Without the person sitting next to me. Because had i. not come out of her. Vagina. God. DARTY motherfucking game introducing the woman that birth to me, my mother fucking mother Lori Cooper Yup. Big. Big Gal I was having a much better time all week calling you ten times a day who you're going to have a WHO's the person going to be on my God? Are you getting Cardi B.? Daddy gang and literally my mom calls me she's like Oh my God like who did you decide on it and I tell my mom everything. So she's like who's one hundred guests and unlike I'm not even telling you like it's a surprise. So flash forward to this weekend. There they got a ring at the doorbell. And Low behold my mother answers the door she makes eye contact with me I. So excited. Alex thinking I'm surprising her and then she goes Oh God. Oh God I could tell right away Oakland I don't know what how I can tell I. Could I was like Oh my God I am not just doing your laundry. No I am here though my mother and I, just want to get let you guys know she is clenching. Microphone to the point where we may not have her audio. She is so nervous she's freaking out. She's not doing how are you doing not well I'm fine I'm losing my. Fun. Okay. Listen to me. Mom I want you to let you know because daddy gave my mom's like freaking out. She's like Oh my God. But like what if they don't think I'm funny and I'm like mom no one is like looking for my mom to come on and be like cracking Dick Jokes like you can chill I think the moral of this is going to be first and foremost you already made it. You can literally leave right now you're on the show. Okay. That sounds perfect. Go ahead. I think on the one hundredth episode, what I want to do today is. You have been we can get sappy here. You are the most. Influential person in my life. Thank you and. I aspire to. Be Not only the mother you are, but also just like the type of person you are. You're welcome. So I think that the Dadi Gang, it would be really I've really talked about you on this podcast so much how you are so insightful and it will be fun to just kind of let the daddy gang know where I'm from yeah who I came from right now. I. Get I. Get I'm ready. Okay. Here we go. I think the most asked question on the Internet hands down and we can just kick it off with this. People would want me to ask is, how does your mom feel about call her daddy the show? Okay I'm going to correct you right there. Okay. Because what I think the number one question is. And you were just giving me a nice little Khuda. It's How. Does your father? Feel. What is her dad think about the show my God what are the others does in two one everyone? What are their dads think you? It's even instagram girls everyone on the Internet if you're posting bikini pictures with their fathers, think what is their dad think and my mom gets all upset and I'm like excuse me. It's a fifty fifty like she couldn't have gotten here without you me. Right. But to to answer your question. Yeah. I think it's amazing I'm just going to put it out there. I meant. Proud. Yeah. What's going on here and you know I'm just GonNa say I admire the product you've created I know where it comes from I know how much talent I've watched to? Since the be eight years old you were starting to think about doing these things and I dad are both like immensely proud of you personally. But you know and I've said this to you before I. Think you even said it. This creative process and product is even bigger than you which like Kudos to you I am proud I'm thinking I'm going to do a mom moment i. am really proud. Thank you listen. Is it Raunchy does it have sex and making fun of circumstances with Saks? All of that sure. But yeah, a half to respect. The creative process and the product, your like how how do you? How do you not I mean I know I was saying to you Girl Lena. Dunham's girls. Yeah. The showgirl TV show I was like this is amazing. Right I mean maybe it's my viewpoint but sex and the city I think I've watched that three three rotations. Right? Right. I read an Article Sarah Jessica Parker. When she took that role hesitated because she thought it would ruin her career. Now. So that's that's progress. Yeah. You know I mean it's funny because you and I always in the beginning and you didn't still to this day. I think Daddy Gang. My mom would literally call me and be like I just left the grocery store and I ran into so and so from your middle school days and their parents came up to me and okay and so hence they'll go. How're you doing? I'm like fine. Thank you. But like there's this tone Reich, you shouldn't be. Okay, right right. Like I'm good. How are you know? How you doing with Alex and I'm like Alex is Great. Did you hear about the PODCAST, right? She's doing great. It's great. Thank you so much and they just look at me like what's wrong with you. And didn't have a close friend had close. I had a very close friend Mike College Front long she called me saying that she and her husband had discussed what was happening with you and they felt compelled to let dad and I know. That they thought something was wrong and it needed to be addressed and were we aware of unlike aware of it like you think I don't know what's happening. You're like wait Alex is a podcast I. Literally had no idea and this is like a year into it. Yeah. So as a mother like did that ball or you? Did it come on you know me. Yeah. That was good question but yeah yeah. Would bothered me and I started to I told you I started to Parse it out differentiate like I said to you there's a difference between how do you feel about the show where what Alex is doing as opposed to how do you feel about? Feel like many times. That's the underlying message. ooh, how do you feel about your daughter? Right? Well, I'm sitting here. I feel great about my daughter and I'm very proud of you. Thank you, and so his dad I want to say thank you to you for a minute because while starting this show and being going through this show. I can only speak for myself my side of the show but for me my experience with my family and to support that I had. Going through this, you guys have been so supportive not since it got successful right to be able to go into the recording studio every single week since episode one at have my family. Not. Saying they loved the sex content but fully supporting me you that made my career when I went in there, I didn't have to about what are my parents going to think I was very fortunate right and but that's you know that comes with the years of I had trust in you as a person. Yeah this thing. Could have not worked, right? It could have been a total flop. It was confidence in you. And the craft that you were trying this was your first jump in and it's like, let's do it and everybody is looking at like this final product. So to speak that's come out but and you know me and Mike quotes I'm always giving you guys quotes but one of the ones I always said you if you can't figure out your purpose figure out your passion passion is GonNa lead you there. You've been driven by your passion your whole life. No and I think that everyone listening daddy gang I definitely feel like there are people that grow up and that you know what you WanNa do, and then there are people I had best friends that I have no idea what they wanna do i WanNa just tell everyone that's like younger trying to figure it out. Don't put pressure on yourself to be like I. Have to figure it out by twenty five I have to say like if you like you mom and it is kind of a great quote figure out what you're passionate because then that will that will lead you to like success because I wake up every single day and love what I'm doing. Of course podcast is like stressful at times but there's nothing else I would rather be doing listen to me daddy gang. MANSCAPING. Why? 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I pulled up some of your iconic lines that I just think I would say on the call her daddy podcast and I want the daddy gang to hear some Lord Cooper fucking wisdom. Okay. So I just always thought it'd be easier for you guys. If I gave you like a repeating lines, you'll you did you would say the same shit over and over two hundred at the time when I was younger I'm like mom we get it but now I'm like, Oh, mom. Yeah I get it and now it. Stuck with me so The first part has to do with relationships and. It's so beautiful because Lauren having just gone through her break-up I remember you on facetime with her. Asking her this question and I, haven't heard you say this in a while but I remember you saying it to me in college as well. Okay. When you're dating all those guys with all the depth? Yes. All the depth, all the emotions so brilliant. So beautiful but at least they were rich. Okay. So I knew you were just practicing I'm like. Well, let us. She'll see she hits a brick wall should be like that's not that's not working. In trial and error, maybe you don't want that so. This is one of your I obviously don't have it quote culture. This is basically something Laurie Cooper has always preached to me and my friends at my family. About relationships. Unless you are engaging in a relationship where you truly believe that person makes you a better version of yourself. Why would you ever commit to a static agreement? So. Basically leave is how jose sort of yeah. I think I threw that static piece in later it. Basically Their son much emphasis to you know me I have literally gone from. You know I hope you guys find a good life partner whoever that is get married. Right children. I'm like not one hundred percent on marriage anymore right and not that we're against it. You're more just like whatever makes you happy well, whatever makes you happy but whatever allows you to continue to grow? Yeah. Like I mean I think what I was most. I am most thankful in my relationship with Dad and I've told you this is the version you see before you now with dad is like version ten, right? Know like we had to keep moving forward and developing this language and this support system. But when we came together, there was no question in my mind. I am a better person. Like, productively, internally, when I am with this man. Each other better. She A. So the decision. To commit to that and back in our day, it was you got married right? It was it was a no brainer except and I've told you this I had a little right you're. Too. Yeah Right. Because it was being vulnerable but that. To me was the deciding factor and I may have even gotten that from therapy myself. Yeah. Kind of go through that when you're going into my field but I think I know I think it's brilliant I think everyone listening Daddy. That's beautiful. Thank you mom it's like Everybody listening to this podcast, take fucking minute and think of yourself. If you're in a relationship right now or even if you're not think back to pass relationships, did that person make you the best version and a better version of yourself or did you feel better individually and without that person? Did they make you feel like shit? Do they put you down? Do they support your career? which is it because when you kind of ask yourself that question because I remember when we asked Lauren and I know you asked me that in the past and a lot of times it's kind of a very clear answer. And and that's kind of scary because then you gotta be willing to listen to yourself big wait. No, I. Don't feel like a better version of myself. He puts me down he makes me feel like Shit. Right, and so that's what I was kind of jumping into say to you I forget where I got this quote from Ryan but the quote is ownership does it make you feel like the best version of yourself? It's not his or her responsibility, right? You when you come together, you get that feeling from a positive relationship right but you've got to look at it and go what am I doing here M I. D The flip side to this that I've used with you is if someone you're partnering with makes you feel less. Than who you know you are to be and you are. That's not a healthy relationship. Right unnaturally dark and deep, but not a healthy relationship and I don't know whether you got I'm. We literally, I couldn't even prepare for this because I was so nervous. Yeah. But my other quote that's coming to me and I know that you've used this a lot I used to say to you a lot is you need to understand in an imbalanced relationship. The person that cares the least south controls. The relationship Laurie, Cooper I have tweeted that line I have said that line and people get so mad at me when I say that, but it is. It's fucking true hate to hear that. Yeah. Because if you're in a relationship and you start realizing that that other person in a negative way is calling all the shots. That's so unhealthy. It's literally they don't care. Exactly they care. Lee. They daycare the least it's so fucking true. It's so dark daddy game but think about that I remember I use that in my he doesn't like you episode I was like it's I got one. Person that cares lean. It's like hold on think about that. He never calls. He never taxed. He treats you like, Shit? So who's WHO's texting you? You're texting I every time. You're trying to get him to see you your final double text him. I'll try to show up and then I'll bring foods. We likes me. Why are you having to try so hard because he doesn't care and therefore you're the one putting in all the effort and therefore he's the one that dictates the relationship and it's not healthy. It's not but it's the truth it really either one of you it's not and that's where it goes back. I'll go back one more time and then you can move on. This goes back to when you're. Little. Why do you want to be friends with someone who doesn't want to be friends with that was on my list. Oh okay. Lorrie Cooper spitting facts. That is the big like why do you want to be a fucking relationship with someone that doesn't want to be in a relationship with you? What are you doing? Doesn't have the same feelings. Why are you forcing something? Why would you want to force someone to fucking like you or hang out with you or want to be with you and what's the cliche line everybody uses when they see like a marriage and everything later and they go, it's not working out they go. Well either he or she? Yeah, they settled. Oh settled. You. Get one life. I one. Yeah. So what are you doing with this one wonderful life? There's no real. Well, the Buddhist believe there's no, there's a Redo, right? Okay. So that's what I want. Exclusion we're not. Okay. This is this is it this is at your satellite. So you're going to settle. And this doesn't mean most of the best the smartest person it means for you the richest relationship and it goes back to I I. I'm preaching now but I've said this to you know I, love fucking Spit Fax Phase. pleased. But when you find your person, it's what we're for for you. I have another quote from you Lori and this is a quote that's not your quote but you always used to say it to us and it's the one that's. Accepted the love that you think you deserve. Yeah and and that's as far as you can go if you don't think you deserve more than the guy that beats the shit out of you and treat you like shit then you will continue to be with that person the minute that you open your eyes and you see wait I think I, deserve more than. This I think I really see myself and I know in my heart of hearts this is going to be the hardest thing to get out of but I truly like you said I, know it's corneas buck we live on life you gotta figure a way if you don't feel like you're getting the Best Edison and get the fuck out right and I just And I get your passion with what you just said. But I do want to clarify when you're in an abusive relationship that. The balance is so skewed that you sort of as the person that may be. Being abused, you don't really have that thought process to be able to get out and be strong. So you'd need help with that. Do you have any advice for people that are in that situation yet? Help get professional help yeah and I will tell you right now. And I I almost say this professionally but I won't this is yeah daughter. If you're in a relationship and it is not good and and God forbid if if it's abusive, right? If that person will not go to therapy with you. For the love of God get your family around you and get out of it. because. That's a really bad sign if they won't. Work with you to the problem I'm getting a little door. No no, it's true I. Think I think people like this on the show sometimes when I've talked about sexual abuse, and now this is it is nice to have people that are older like sex with emily brought in a different. She. Was Great. She End. This is I know a lot of girls deal with this and it's kind of a lot of girls even asked me where do you find a therapist like you saying that someone I think is real. Static part I'm. Talking about Alex. Like if you think. If you think that making the commitment or you know getting married, let's say right having children that won't change if the person isn't going to go and get some help for to change themselves right and stop being if your partner won't go to therapy with you and you're saying there's a clear issue. They don't think they need to change. Will they also don't care enough about the relationship if dad came to me tomorrow and said I need to dad needs to go. I would go for him right because he's asking me and I care right and vice versa. So it's anyone that goes I. Don't need that right you can go but I don't need that with your partner. There you go right? Okay. Odd Spitting fast well, I think in in not this is another thing that I have kept with me and I think about in every relationship that I get in because of you. and. I've said this to my friends Lori. Lori you're you really are the granddaddy of okay. Well, what are you going to say? It's world's relating to this. Another lorry cooper quote. Brilliance. If something is bothering you and your relationship, and if there are things that you do not like in your relationship. It will only get ten times worse when you get married sue if you are in a relationship right now and he's an alcoholic or he's addicted to you or he's cheating on you or she's cheating on and she treats you and she gas lights you and you're just dating understand that it will get worse the minute you commit to each other in marriage so like you have to knowingly be ready to sign up for that correct and the thing is it's not we're not. No one's perfect in my opinion. So we're not out there like they do that. So leave the point is you need to address it yeah. You have to address it. I have unfortunately a lot of friends right now they're empty nesters right there with their spouses. And they haven't had these conversations like dad would've me off last week I would tell him. I. Me a lot of people have all these conversations in their head and they never even tell them. Communicating. Yeah and it just you know what? That's like Oh my God you just keeps going going going. You're like, yeah, it's gone then it comes up to get. You. Just you got your generation which I love this whole thing with technology. Okay fine. It's probably bad. You know where each other is I cannot believe boyfriends and girlfriends follow each other five months Oh my God you wanted to use that in college for for kids in case like got in a car right right and now boyfriends and girlfriends like following each other which I think is psychotic and my boyfriend ever wanted to fall follow me on a fucking tracking device I'd be literally go fuck yourself right so and you're looking at each other's phones. And all that. Yeah. So but with that openness, use it positively right us a policy of your knock at confrontation maybe be attacked him while he's at work and start the conversation. Hey, like I really think we should talk later and been thinking Mobile Blah Blah however daddy game. It's never too late if you're in a situation where you're like but it's too far down the line or I'm in a seven year relationship how I ever end it exp-. No, fuck no, we do not fucking settle and I'm so happy brought up that fucking word. I can't even imagine settle saddle. Told going to settle with my life, I'm going to settle at twenty five excuse daddy gang. We don't fuck in settle we fucking thrive and we succeed and we get what we fucking deserve. And in turn. You give as much as you receive your. That's all that you're bringing. It's a safe zone. No, it's true. It's true. Laurie I pull my book out that I've been keeping for years I know it's of. If anyone has blackmail on me, it's my mother but at least it's my mother. Commercial. Hello. Fresh haw. 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Any order, you are going to get a free treatment, a hair serum, a hair mask, or a leaving conditioner with any purchase. It's up to twenty five dollars value free function of beauty dot com slash daddy. If we could transition because it will just be fun I. Think we're just GonNa Talk Shit we talked about my childhood it's like the whole thing of self awareness and what have you always said about self awareness Laurie it is the single most important piece to develop. For success. In both, your personal. And your professional life you like it is it Yup, and again, it goes back to the only person you can control is yourself. So awareness of the south it's word all. From you've always said to me like no one ever evolves and grows unless they were willing to discuss change and it can't grow if you don't change and you can't grow if you're not self aware. And Change Causes Discomfort right and people hate that right and that's why everybody's coming up to the grocery store. Real. Are you okay going through a little change here? I do have to say when I pushed like the whole individual self awareness thing I think I might have pushed it a little too hard. Yeah. Let's talk about that because you really fucked me up. No, just kidding. So Daddy Gang I think that. I preached on this show I'm like daddy gang you need to be yourself own your shit you don't need a man you don't need a woman. Because when I was growing up, I think you really taught me you you. Yeah. You did push individuality and you really never put an emphasis on like having a partner. Right? It was more about being good all my own right which I love. But I think I may have taken a little too far. I don't I think honestly in another way, you were probably my my best child disciple you to every you like. Those big. You you Kinda hung you and I had a we have a connection right analogy. Wise. You would know it right now with me. freaking. Out But. You took that and you kept developing the self, the self you know and working on that and being a better person and evolving. I don't I don't think it's a problem for you right now. I think you just have really really always strive to be the maximum at anything. Now you're hitting you're looking for that maximum relationship well interesting because you were having a conversation over drinks last night about like how I've always called it a game with men and it's something I'm going I'm going down this journey in therapy daddy game. But basically like what I've been talking about is I was i. felt like I was playing a game with men for so. Long because for a very long time in my entire Childhood in life and I'm working on soccer my career I couldn't have been more okay. Being alone I was very happy and being an individual into every time. I had a guy in my life it was more. So like a a fun side thing for me to do but I was never expecting anyone to fill me up fully because I do it right myself right and like you call to you call it a game right I call the exact same thing process. Laurie it's true. Hit US were her. And with the game. That kind of diminishes the process, right? It sounds a little manipulative, manipulative competitive. It's a throw away. Right you win you keep moving on it's a process. And I mean, going back to your soccer days, right? Right. How many times did you kick the net thousands until you figured that perfect shot are you to connect us to dating Oh my God so you? Need to date thousands. Of Men right and but actually you need to date you figure out what you want. Yes and that's where it goes back to again the amount of time that my mom and have conversations about like when family members or extended friends of ours are like he's just getting it out of his system. Yeah. A okay and let me let me. Know that I go on a rant with that time and it's not it's not sexist I'm fine with both sexes with this and I don't even mean sex itself. But why can you say oh, he's a great young man. He's got a wonderful college degree and he's good looking. He's got a good job. He just needs to get the Fuck Boy Syndrome this system and then he's GonNa make a great father and Husband. So. How does that not work for a woman for the other person would never have it come out of their mouth she just needs to fuck around so much for a little bit and right he's GonNa make an amazing wife, right? Never never the point I think we're bringing up is like. When I when I called it a game, you're right mom and maybe it was because I was an athlete and that's just what I was calling it but it really is a process figuring out what you like. And you've had some pretty dark games. Yeah. In the relationship. Slicing. Yeah and then I'll always say to you you know where people go oh, my God you regret that happened I, don't ever regret. A negative experience if you grew from it, right this is this is what I hope. This is this is what I see is your message right now I've had so many crazy things happen in relationships and even though I was entertaining the guys that were not the best of intentions for a while give taught me never regret anything because I've had extremely amazing experience i. Wouldn't say amazing but it is kind of a man extraordinary extraordinary experiences because I am where I am I have a better sense of self knowing what I want what I don't want because of those experience. Okay. Here's what you want is want the it's so easy I. Mean we're we're getting into the weeds, but it's like what you want is easy you can and. You can see it right and I used to say this to you guys a lot too and this is what we're talking about here. It's so important to know what you don't want. Yeah and what you don't want when you experience it is usually a negative experience, right? Yup. But then how important is that moving forward this is what we were talking about like the whole victim. I know we're going to get into the victim into well, they did this to me. They did that to me why are you here again you right to know what you don't want it. Yeah. I- accountability is something very endowed reunion with and I was joking to my mom we were just having a conversation about. And I'm not talking about victims of sexual assault. Talking about the people that are like Whoa is me I she did this to me I'm a MC dumber or he did this to me it's like what did you always say to me when I was growing I'm saying I when you say that I see like the little braids and the uniform from Catholic school route out, right? Hey. But you would come to the door and suzy cream cheese said. Of Me Right and I'd say. So. What are you going to do about it? Right? Because you can't change the way suzy made you feel bright but you can change the way you're going to behave and respond now to the situation it's the only control you have fucking boom and that's empowerment. No, it is because empowered ide you want to say to the daddy gang like we are not fucking victims. We don't let a boy my boyfriend. And a tree happen of course, Shit happens of course but you gotta deal with you gotTa deal. It's not going to be like my boyfriend is treating me like shit and it's like, okay what are you GonNa do about it but it's also it's a it's a lack lack of autonomy over your own life, right? You know which is almost worse because your candy and over to somebody else. So that's always Allen. Yeah it's always someone else's problem. They did this to me, and then how do you solve someone else's problems it completely. Enables you. Write a dependency, right because how how? Oh, he's doing that to you and he's causing your pain and your misfortune will you don't control him? Right? You control yourself her why don't you walk away? So you need to decide what you're going to do to protect yourself. This is deep. Well it's deep, but it's also It's behavior one on one if you buy into it yeah. It's the difference of what did they do to me or what I going to do about it it it really comes down to that Lori. God. We're looking at this. No, that's true. It's just it's I mean you've heard the glass half full glass half, right? It's just it's the same dynamic. Somebody pushed somebody said something right Larry did it the actions done? Right. So what are you going to roll over and? Ask them do it again or pick up go to a different sandbox find a new friend move on with your life. And I. Don't mean to sound patronizing but. Simplicity. Yeah. Well I think this is cool because I think like I do like to have like different moments on call her daddy because sometimes I feel like you we go through our everyday life especially in corona and some of us are in rats and some of us are like stock and whatever the fuck we're doing and it's like this kind of a cool I, mean I'm enjoying this episode talking about this and who knows what will go in won't go in but I like I'm having a therapy session with my mother. It is nice to have reset moments to just reevaluate everything and everyone in your life I. Think for me in Corona that something that I really started to look at who is super toxic in my life and why do I still entertain those people maybe everyone after this episode at least something we take like an I'm even thinking about it even more because I've been thinking about it and corona but I'm like who is in my life and how does every single person in my life? Make me feel and? Who are you giving a lot of your time too because I think in the past I was. Giving my time to people that were sucking the fucking life out of me and I was getting nothing in return. I felt empty and I was giving them everything and then you're Kinda like. This isn't seem right but then when you're in a pattern and you keep going with it, friendships or romantic is hard to kind of get out of it I. Admit. I'm I know is saying, Oh, I'm strong. No I've had fucking times where I'm like, how do I get out of this 'cause? It becomes like I don't I don't know if I have the effort right now to like pick up and get out of here. Do you remember when situation I know you do? Okay. Here we go and it was pretty serious and I said to you. You could commit to this relationship. and. If this is what you're going to sign up for, you're going to spend the rest of your life. Trying to help this man. Get healthy. Because he is very broken. Yes and sometimes people do that because they think. I love them you better. Look at your construct of what love is and that was not the way you were raised. That's what I was so So specific on it has to be a partnership. It doesn't have to be equal with exactly the same stuff but to balance out always as an equal partnership and I wanted to scare you at that moment because I meant it, you do that you will spend your life. Trying to make him normal is that what you WanNa do I thought you had a few other things on your list? And he will suck. Every piece of oxygen. Out of the air every time you're with him. And I, was remember it. Should is getting chills. This is verbatim what my mother said to me. Yeah. So I just I I will support your decision. You Know Me. I'm almost tool that I don't interfere once. Once. You become an adult right I. Feel like I've given you the foundation but I I I did want you to know what you were signing up for. I will never forget that moment. It's interesting. You're bringing this up because. I don't know if aired last week or is now airing this week on as part two I talked about how I had phase after college where I kind of lost myself and I remember kind of distancing myself from you and yeah add because. I. Knew You guys knew. I wasn't doing what I wanted to do with my life. Yes. I had just one my silent film awards Yup I in my senior year I was killing it in the film program at Boston, and then I graduated and all of sudden everything I had done my entire life of senators kinda stopped and I became a girlfriend and I remember. Distancing myself because I was to it was almost like I was just ashamed because I knew how you guys knew what I really was and I was. So in this vortex of being a girlfriend that I kind of lost myself for a minute and I remember and this will go in a fucking book day but really what ended up happening Is for another story, but the point is finally I remember you UN, Dad being like where the fuck? Is Alex Cooper where the fuck is the girl that grew up in our basement. Yes. Making movies. Yes. went to high school continued to make movies went to college for Film and Television won the silent film a right like where is she? Because we barely could hold you back when you were a young girl trying to fuck and leave and be like I'm not going to high school I'm not going to college I'm going to fucking Hollywood and you're like no. We're going to give you a normal life and then you gave me a normal life and I'm so grateful and I went to college and I did all of it and then I'm like what am I doing and it really was the scariest moment for me to like. I almost lost myself there to be like mailing it in all of money and I'll have a guy that kinda treats me like a fucking piece of shit and I'm literally trying to help this man through his family trauma and all the things. But what do I get? I was kicking myself because I had taught you how to do. Good. Intervention with your Alex, you can't save this person like okay. Now, and that is where I do I. Do Love You Dad for finally stepping in when it got so dark and you're like where the fuck is she and literally wants that happen call her daddy was made in less than like three months we'll because. The minute you came out I woke up you woke you woke up I was like what the Fuck I knew I knew who you were and all of that and remember that I'm not just saying this to make it sound right but. I didn't even dislike I liked that. No, like, yeah, it was. That wasn't the issue it. Yeah. It wasn't right. That was in the issue. The dynamic was very off. Yeah very off you know. And I think when you get into a situation where someone is so emotionally reliant on you like you said, you almost taught me to do that. But then I got to the point where again I'm saying and this goes back to daddy everything we said this episode. What was I getting and what was he getting? And Most. Importantly. You were losing yourself right. So I wasn't the best version myself with the best version of yourself. So I think the the point is is like you find people daddy gang. And you shouldn't feel. I feel. So many girls are like I regret this and I. Oh my God he was such a Dick, even if you got cheated on, you were sitting there in the darkest point of your life because one day I will tell the story of what really fucking happen to me in one of my breakups and it was the most. Unbelievable situation and it included garbage bags. It's a movie. It is the most unbelievable thing that my parents had to get involved As. Much in that moment as I was so. Distraught. When I look back, I wouldn't change one thing about what happened no because I wouldn't be sitting in this chair right now having my hundred episode with my Goddamn mother call her Audi podcast to call her daddy podcast may not even exist had the garbage situation have had not happened it absolutely would not, and that is my mantra also to you. If you went through that hell. But you're in a good spot now don't regret that. Yeah. Learned from it. Yeah. It's it's it's hard to do in the moment but that's why I always keep saying on my show and I brought it up. I started thinking about it on the show and I keep telling people look at it from a third party point of view everyone when you walked people going through a break up, you're always like Oh my God. You're you're going to get them out stronger than ever. It's Kinda true. You learn something that you hated or loved, and now you're moving onto bigger and better. And how many times come on? It's totally normal for your age group everybody sits around and you listen to these stories and you go. Oh I'd never do it that way. Oh, I wouldn't get burnt like I wouldn't ever get cheated on Alex talks about getting cheated on. She really overemphasizes getting cheated on. Okay. That's what I'm talking about vulnerability. If you always looking at like. That's not gonNA happen to me. You're not living this process fully. Yeah. You're get short changed right I mean you gotta go through this. Hello this is Ben. Honestly I hope you guys are enjoying this as much as I. Am I feel like I just got a freeze therapy session from my mother got I. Hope they're okay with this I feel like I'm sitting in in the. The office of the psychologist I work for them. We're talking about cases or no, but I think I don't know I mean listen if they hated it. You're my mother they can't hate you. So you're not a podcast but I do. I think that this is something I was thinking about and I want you to take a minute to think about this no pressure But to wrap this episode up. Yeah because we've gone all over why didn't know where? Y I annoyed I honestly just blacked out. I wish I could do that. You guys talk about black. Black. Shouldn't be blocking out at that. That's not a good sign, but it sounds. Like. You get to go away and you come back and and there was no responsibility go. It's nice. Okay to get deep here. Laurie Yeah we all like we haven't. We haven't no to finish this into kind of wrap it up as much as we're kind of talking about me and you and and how I was raised and giving your insight. I want to ask you very specific question that I was trying to figure out how to say it. For a while and I think I, have it. That I hopefully think we'll wrap it all up for just as one hundred episode of like. If, you could tell the daddy gang As my mother. Who? They're not always interested in it's usually the dads the DADS. No. No. No I'm. I'm giving you the gang daddy. Cares about you. As my mother. What would you? Tell the daddy gang about me. That you think. Because I have an online relationship with them they would never really truly know about me but as my mother. you know about me and my character like what do you want them to know about me? Take a minute. Wow I mean. I don't I don't i. Honestly don't even need a moment to to know what I wanNA tell them. I just have to collect the thought I need about an hour right? YOU'RE NOT A. Sir We're here for you. Okay. We'll wait. Well, I, want people to know that you arrays with very high moral and ethical principles. Yeah. I mean as a parent. I'm most proud that when your integrity and your character were challenged. You did the right thing. Spent a lot of shit flying around. And well, you may end up cutting this out but. The Entire Story. Of. The factors leading up to the dispute. Most likely will never be told Alex. yeah. Unless you're given. No Choice. And I don't think they should. Because that's that's not how we raised you. Right. When you were facing the potential of significant loss. To your career. I want people to know you were a supportive. Loyal. And caring friend I. Until all the other options were exhausted. And I'm not talking about the contracts and the negotiations I'm talking about the individuals. You cared about. Their personal struggles. So. I guess, this is Kinda. My long winded way of saying I I want people who don't know you personally to know. You're a good decent and strong young woman. and. That's what I'm most proud of Alex. that. Fuck Johnny. Gay. Mom. I'm done. This is getting. So deepen fuck. Thank you mom. Thank you I. Classic Closing Statement I don't think that. Thank you my mother. You're done. You're officially done Laurie Cooper. You've the peaking with their presence. You've gripped the fuck out Mike, my own it's broken. Thank you mom. Thank you for coming on that honestly I. I couldn't have asked for better guest and I, don't think I will ever have a better guest. Oh WHO THEY MAY BE? Easier. To. God. To podcast with but no that was amazing Laurie Cooper. Okay. What does that you're crying I wanted to vomit. Maybe that's our relationship. I don't know Dottie fucking gang you just heard from. My mother and now it's your father speaking which is confusing to say in my hometown House because my dad is like, are you calling for me on my? No Dad I'm the father in this home daddy getting you know the mother fucking girl that is I don't see one more fucking thing I will see you fuckers. Next one.

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RHONY Superfan Heather McMahan Receives a Special Bravo Surprise

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RHONY Superfan Heather McMahan Receives a Special Bravo Surprise

"<music> Hi. I'm Megan Sarah and I'm Eric J man. This is the daily Dish Bravo's official podcast actress comedian podcast hosts and thought he on a heather McMahon McMahon is a huge rony fan naturally. We had to talk to her about her love for the show. Yes Bravo Hollick's need to stick together in this hilarious interview we discussed the first season of Rony what her tagline would be her favourite house husband and what she would absolutely absolutely not do in certain house by Scenarios Think Sonia wearing a diaper plus. We had a little surprise for her towards the end of the interview of course it was Roni inspired. Her reaction was adorable who can blame her. You won't WanNa miss that that moment. Let's take a listen guys we are here with comedian actress and thought Tiana Extraordinary Heather McMahon Hello Hi thanks for having me of course thanks for coming in so you are a Rony Superfan oh you you have no idea like I keep waiting for them to call me and asked me to join the series but they haven't well. This is your call out to them to do that. Grant we go. You're in the right place great. Who is your favorite housewife Sonia Sonya? I here's the thing I love D- Dorinda but I really connect with Sonia because it doesn't matter what she does. She's never embarrassed right. You know what I mean. She could have the sloppiest night she could forget to wear panties and the next issues like whatever I was just doing me so I just really appreciate her her tenacity and her honesty. Do you have a favorite season of the shells okay so crazy. I was on a flight to L._A.. Like last week and they were playing the very first season on jet blue and I was like this is I forgot what the rooted show right when Jill was still on it I mean that first season was wild. We're just introduced to the Countess. When she was married? There was oh so she was very like Oh you introduce me to the driver. As Lou and I am tests that was the best S. moment ever and that is such good foreshadowing for what this season was about. Yeah and Bethany is like what do you want. What do you want him to call you this driver? Mike like layoff me right exactly so what about like house. Husband's sounds like there's been a lot over the years okay well. Alex is husband. What was his name Francois Francois Yeah Alex from what who lived in Brooklyn Alex mcchord mcchord sorry? Oh what was the Simon Simon yes her. Her Son was Francois Right right right and then Joe was like that's too hard of named Brunell of course Alex Yeah Alex and Simon truly like the Oh Jeez that just really like their whole dynamic was just wild to watch. Did you ever see they went onto into V._H.. One show bootcamp yeah. It was no it was not marriage bootcamp. It was like couples couples therapy. That's what it was and they were on with Courtney Stott in and Doug Hutchinson. It was like those Mish Mosh like doc dealers celebrities can specifically remember Alex mcchord like fighting with him by the pool and she storms off that she slips and falls on her ass like do you need help in just like no we don't need any help and it was like this peak Simon and Alex Right now Alex. I really think it was just like once that move to Brooklyn it was just we all knew it was downhill from there of course that's what happens. We're GonNa Leave Manhattan Brooklyn. Where do you live now because you're just moved here? I live in Brooklyn. No actually here's the thing I love Brooklyn but it's justice expensive if not more expensive to live in Brooklyn than the cities you might as well live in the city neighborhood in gramercy okay. Oh Yeah I was always a West cider and then I found a great deal on the East sinus on all right. Let's try it out and I love it. It's amazing. How long have you been here now <hes> well? I moved two and a half weeks ago and I've slept in my apartment three night. Where have you been all over? It was like I moved and then I had to go to L._A.. For Work Place Travel Yeah. It's a little trap jet-setting okay back to Rony yeah. Reunion is coming up. Do you have any prediction well. I definitely think that they're just going to roast lamb. Yeah I mean I don't know how she couldn't watch the season back and just see the monster that she's become and I'm here for the cabaret look. I'm about to go onto her in the fall. I love it. My Fiance Jeff just watched. I made him watch the last episode last night and he moves literally was floored at her show. He's like people pay money to go see this all over the country they do all over the country like honey. You like you can just put on a feather Bella and saying you know Mary had a little lamb and they'd better show I mean I love Louis and because I just think she does. She is not self-aware right well. It's like someone was saying and we've talked about it. On the podcast like the idea of have you can be kind of an ego maniac and narcissistic but it doesn't make you a bad person. I feel like that's the point lowlands trying to make to everyone but that's coming through properly. I fully agree unless I'm glad that she's you know sober and doing some self care by when you do self care you can't also push everyone else in front of the bus right you know which she tried to do to Sonia a little bit Miami Yeah a lot of let's talk about Miami Beckons breakdown. What was your reaction to that? Here's the thing I fully empathized empathized with her. Yeah like Bethany is she goes from zero to one hundred real quick but it was really truly one of those moments where she just lost. It and I didn't blame her like but I love I'm Italian so like the hand gestures I got but when she was just like pulling her chest like how dare you. How dare you just truly good for you? I don't know where her emmy nomination is but angel to come also had the editors for the real housewives of New York. Have they won emmy. They should I mean truly listen whoever from like the academy is listening. They better get an emmy because truly the way that they edit that show is just mind-blowing. It's so good other than Roni to have any other shows that you're obsessed with Bravo. <hes> I mean honestly I'm a Bravo Hollick. I truly whatever ever I just keep Bravo on. Just let it scroll. Here's the thing I recently got into southern charm now. I'm from the South so I was very hesitant. I really was very skeptical getting into it because I said you know what I bet this going to be. Another show that makes us all seem like idiots but now a bunch of southern termed cast members send messages on Instagram and I'm in I'm obsessed with Cameron up sound God's name obsessed and Catherine like all of them. I just want to go to Charleston and get like a makeover by Catherine and just like have a moment. So who would you WANNA hang out with the most on that cast. I think Catherine and no Cameron Cameron I are more like I think we have the same humor we'd volume but I definitely want to have oh no. I Want Patricia like what's your take on Patricia. Well Patricia is who I like. Chose like who I want to be in a couple of years. I just WANNA wear beautiful like Mu Kaftan House dresses and drink dirty Martinis and you know my Jeffrey. Is You know her Michael Yeah well. That's how my I won't. I can't afford to Butler but I would just really really rather fiance. Fiance knows how to make a meeting cocktail and can like make sandwiches and stuff. <hes> it's amazing. What is your real housewives tagline well so I'm getting married in Italy next year so and my goal is to like eventually own a Dahlie and a vineyard because I just want to be like this like old Italian lady and tracksuits the I don't just drink the wine I own the vineyard? Oh my God that is good yeah. We need to get a boomerang of. You're doing that video your way out. That's so perfect perfect listen. I like pitch. I tweeted any unlike listen. I'll delete the real hostage of Rancho Cucamonga. I'll do the real houses of like Tampa Bay. I don't care just put me. Some franchise dropped me in a city and I'm ready to go yeah like the real houses of Reno whereas that that would be amazing nine one one style so oh I love it okay so you have a podcast called absolutely not yes so. I wanted to play a game where we give you scenarios that are things that have happened on you know shows from this season or in the past I and you tell me absolutely not or yes I one pudding. You're dead dog in the freezer. That's an absolutely yes really if there's nothing else in the freezer freeze shout out to contaminate anything else isolated freezer. Maybe in the basement one hundred percent like if you have like a tiny little mini French you know like everyone has many fridges now for all their like cool facial products right so if you want to put like your face cream and then you're dead dog that's fine but that's only inbetween right like that's so it can then be stuffed later on one hundred percent exeter. It's not gonNA stay there right. It's not going to stay there next to food and were good okay so the next one dating slash making out with the guy. Not One but two of your female friends have been involved with. That's an absolutely not that's an absolutely not because I know where my friends have been. There and I want none of their germs full. You know who referring to with that one my girl Ramona okay. Can I tell you I met Ramon an event at once and truly like she just is she is oh absolutely you see on the shell that energy that is just all of it that those vibes are truly who she is well. That's one of the biggest questions I feel like we get working here at Bravo was everyone's like are they really like that and I cannot stress enough enough that yes they are. They are who are when they come in. They are who they are on the show. It's like there's no difference whatsoever at all and I appreciate that yeah. I do okay the next one you'll love this when I think openly wearing a diaper and sharing a hairbrush with your dog. That's an absolutely it's not both of them. Actually sharing a hairbrush with your dog. We've all been in like you know. We've all been there. I mean we have us fine at that point. You're like the the dog looks you in the face. You might as well sure yeah yeah that's true. It's sharing a diaper. No well just wearing a diaper not a further with that and we were GONNA go but no wearing a diaper. No Okay Yeah I. I'm not ready for that. I'm not ready for that but if if I WANNA make Lisa Renan money honey and like depends wants to sponsor me right I will wear a diaper Dan Fifth Avenue with my top off. I don't care I've always said that because that was one of Joan rivers big things she was like I will say yes to every opportunity. I have bills to pay people to support. I will wear that diaper. Joan rivers was my idol icon econ like everything she she gave me her blessing in the comedy world. He told me to yes she told me and I was GonNa make it and I was like thank you like. She is my end. All be all so whatever Joan whatever brands Joan worked with I will were speculate putting that out there to your like everyone I'm ready. Yes a hundred percent okay next absolutely not inviting your friends over to a cocktail party at your house and then asking them to do manual labor for you know that's an absolutely not okay yeah in your class of your host than Craig from Southern Charm. Let's see wanted them to put in some work on those pillows. Craig is a hot mess handsome hotness so he ends up. He's a high functioning. That's a good way to put okay okay living in the same house as your ex husband having sex with him but not remarrying him. Oh that's an absolutely not well actually no. That's an absolutely yes because now you're in the driver. See Oh that's true. You know what I mean yeah. That's Robin from Real House is a Potomac as a chef licking a Ross steak that you plan to serve to your guests absolutely not a little also. Why would you do that just to check seasoning? I don't know no one knows why chef meal did bat chef. Manila we talk about chef meal a hoot and a half and well how do not walk the plank like actually physically i. I think it was because you know captain. Sandy was like she was always very respectful in my presence right but like I think probably looking back on it. You know seeing what Captain Sandy maybe didn't see. She might go a little differently. I mean Taco night or was it Nacho night it was Nachos and it was hard shelled Taco Tacos and then it was a Nachos that I can and make better Nachos of that and I cannot cook Oh the worst cook in America the worship ever and I could pull something together better than that right yeah disgraceful very disgraceful. Okay another one reentering someone's home after you've been kicked out of a dinner party with a butter knife. Oh that's an absolutely yes you know back in yeah just like pop back in you know maybe they needed to take ten and like reevaluate everything and just in ten minutes they could have two extra cocktails and forget that they kicked out in the first place so I always say reenter reenter. Maybe do a quick change but like show back up and that was Ashley Darby from Real House is the Potomac so another reason to why okay. I'm going to get back into it okay. This is from Beverly Hills when you're very drunk but you're the only person who can help your friend who is more drunk helping them go to bed. <hes> absolutely yes you would come through for your friend absolutely like no matter how drunk I get. I'm always the mama bear who can like. Have you know dominoes on speed dial and getting six people and a cab Adler. Just how I rolled. It didn't matter how wasted I am. I'm going to help out a friend. No that's too and that's the Mama bear mentality. I think Kyle Richards has because in provence she was like Teddy your to beyond all take care of your women like we're not drunk enough. We're going to bed good luck. You Guys Yeah Kyle like like the way she takes care of Porsche. You know what I mean. It's just the way that she treated teddy and I just I could see that motherly instinct kick in yeah absolutely another one from Beverly Hills getting your significant other a happy ending after a Masan Denise Richards Churches everything here is the thing with that absolutely yes if you have an open relationship if I found out that Jeff was getting hand jobs you know at a spa somewhere he'd be debt so does it count though because usually there as a towel inbetween but contact if I'm present like just creeping in the room. That's an absolutely yes but if I don't if I didn't like sign off on it what are you would have signed off on in this hype because that's denise. He said Oh okay. She said she did but I'm also like or did he just come out afterwards and she just said that he was like by the way this happened and she's like all right. That's the point I didn't even think of that right and then following up on that absolutely not or yes would would you then go ahead and tell your friends about it. Oh for sure Yep. That's something you have to brag about. I actually thought about that the other day. 'cause I'm really into massages right now. That sounds creepy but like I just like to be rubbed care. Yes thank you bye. self-care journey has taken me not to like nice face creams. It's all about having people rubbed me like I'm to the point. I don't understand people who don't like massages. I could be sitting in a food court at a random. All creeped just came up and start rubbing my shoulders. I would just go with it. You know what I mean so I'm very into massages just but no one has ever offered to you know. Give me that good time at the big conversation where we talked about those episodes on the podcast because we were like what is the process there like. How does that work like? How do you know how do you not know right when it's time like it's tricky thing it really is okay last one carrying around a plastic bag full of pills Lisa Renner? Oh at least Renna can do no wrong in my book. She is a goddess. She deemed me on instagram. Shake Dad I swear to God I through my phone just across the house. I was like I am unwell. This is not really happened. Yes I so I I don't have a bag pills but I have a sidr of pills. I get up in the morning. I just open that baby up and I just kind of play pill roulette. Maybe it's an upper. Maybe it's Downer. I don't know which way by day's GonNa going to find out exactly so I'm here for it. Okay always need accoutrements that will either be moon stabilisers. Take you down okay well. We actually have a surprise for you so as a Rony Superfan and I'm sure you're familiar with real estate legend and Rony icon Laurie Cooper Laurie Cooper's everything to me. Oh my Laurie Cooper is here. My God Surrey Cooper dressed like an angel and cream. Come in here baby doll look at her. This is the greatest moment of my life hold on these absolutely has removed her headphones. They they are embracing. They're kissing kissing Laurie well. I'm like shook with this so glad because that's exactly what we want and so here we wanted to give you the opportunity to talk to her and ask us some questions. I okay first of all you're the queen of New York real estate thank you. Why is this place such a Hellhole till it's true it is thank you number one? Is You chose the wrong apartment. I know I know we didn't by the walk through and see see this strange amorous like a red squirrel. You call it a rat. It's a highlight right squirrel. Yes and I'm thinking it would to death she having home at night you never know when these creatures reaches jump over on the ground floor where you live now. I'm on the ninth floor. Oh He's not getting up there right but I get a costed actually assaulted by these rats squirrel hybrids and grammercy I dunno where they came from the underbelly of the Earth see I always lived on the west side and now I moved over to the east side. I don't know how majestic I think. I like it but I don't know grammercy. I'm in gramercy. You know what Grandma's interesting you can walk downtown. right you can go to i walk so much if i show something on twelfth street i woke up town right i loved worst villages fabulous okay it's it's a happening great restaurants great brian atmosphere i love it over there i mean i i i opened patti's when they came in again which i love by the way the only thing that makes me mad about that restaurant is if i mean you get charged forever drink i mean that's new york in general but one time i had seven days it's really was forty five dollars no free wealthier literally no free refills and i spent forty five dollars on ice teeth and i was angry when i hope it was good teasha the new one the old one this menu is excellent okay we've got one hundred dollars i mean it's happening it's great okay and the funny thing is it was the first day they will open and i was so excited and of course we had everybody round us we became best friends with everyone everyone in again these said guess who's coming tonight at eleven o'clock i said who andy cohen was coming at eleven o'clock within justin cooper perfect when home i said should i get dressed again rundown and say hello uh-huh indie of course you should yes anyways it's a great restaurant i like a very up atmosphere right and you wanna be seen you're always very famous there's so many things for you thank you are you my new manager she wants to i want you to know something very good clients became very good friends and we were invited to the academy awards many years ago okay robert abbott wise west side story and let me tell you the real estate at that moment was a little down and they said you should move here and so real estate you know what i should have or had another i've thought when i was single i worked for marvin josephson who was created management and i was just the receptionist let me tell you i'd be great management for celebrities i would just know what to do with them and that actually missed should have done that there's still time there's still time and here's the thing i feel like when it came like getting deals done you'd be pit bull about it yeah and that's what you need like i know you'd buy that you would get the best deal for your clients there's no way absolutely so what's up i get the best you'll buy absolutely you negotiate but sometimes you can't negotiate depending on whose negotiating along with you of course but timing thing is everything question because we were just talking about brooklyn what do you think about people moving to brooklyn in droves but i think it's just as expensive if not more expensive than living in many was joe i grew up there okay at my time it was it's like oh who wants to live in brooklyn you wanna live in the city right but it's changed and it's become very hip and trendy and when something becomes hip and trendy the prices go up yeah i looked at this one building i went into writ this lady was so rude to me she literally like pretty woman me she was like well what your budget and i gave her a very healthy budget and she says well i don't know if we have any of those one bedrooms left i was like excuse me i literally achieve ford you should have said how could you amen system i never i could deal with someone buying a low price department <hes> i just did a deal so low four hundred ninety five thousand he so grateful to lou apartment like that in west side of new york was amazing right he's a columbia professor i never said to him only that amount to spending i'm not working with you i gave you the same courtesy as my forty million dollars client right it's a lot that's good business uh-huh it's a lot of money to whomever it is and you never know from what evolves from that brand action because my business is clients my businesses referrals and so you you don't see my listings but you might clients call me year after year i so something two years ago i sold it to them twenty five years ago and i resold so people how much jury sell it for like quadrupled right hey you i went out with them i would say thirty five years ago showing them properties and the first thing they saw was park avenue uh-huh never forget the building was nine thirty five park and we will it three hundred thousand dollars deal maybe maybe two fifty was big apartment they never forgot that they didn't buy that they they took we went out like a year later we looked at one hundred things snowstorm i had a slip dissed academy over the snow in the snowstorm across the street they just had to see everything right then they ended up at eighty six and nadison they pay five hundred thousand dollars wow and i sold it to them <hes> those years ago and we resold it at a bout close to three three in a quarter with linda my girl dorinda during this the best i talked her husband into buying her an apartment as part of the settlement and she bought a very good deal two bedroom magic word c. o. n. g. o. <hes> over a co-op because if you're in that kind of situation as a divorced woman <hes> or you travel you wanna feel carinthia home out because it's constant income new york's filled now with eastside west side tenth avenue twelfth think twelfth avenue i also i mean literally you have to draw break prims over there to be able to find your way back i really want to just be like on the board of like an h._o._a. like i'm in h._o._a. kind of gal yeah i like to sit in the meetings i like to stir the pot you know what i mean i'm like i do this thing in my mom's gated community in atlanta where i do neighborhood watch but are like walk around the glass of chardonnay angle midnight walks just kind of like spy on the neighbors so can i do that in a condo correct because they have h okay great great thank you that's all you needed to hear this okay guy and that was walking around showing apartments and they said you have to come up to our apartment was on seventy eighth and i believe second avenue you should come in here i went in looked did the shades everyone having sex shades were up and they hated to lead the apartment because this was there nighttime writing to watch people have sect i didn't even wanna watch coach he said look over there over there i couldn't believe it so is this building having to be in grammar building shades down okay i'm giving you unless you don't mind i did that moment 'cause i think new york just totally desensitizes you i lived here years ago and so i was i was just changing last night you know lights on window open and jeff my fiance gimmes like what are you doing i'm like that building so far awake when my son went to private school iraq give you the name right well-known school the regency hotel was right across the street and of course all the boys were always looking because they could get all women undressing undressing whatever was going on how you don't think people looking at you especially boys loved the window race as time they all went to the window her son is in the room right by the way is in the corner like actively i really try to get my like <hes> entertainment career up and up in coming i would like actively send nude photos to different people and nobody called me back no-one no-one and it's Actually falls the way it's supposed to just works you know so this. Is You have no idea I'm like so honored that you're here because you are just such a lady boss and I just really want. I thank you for the advice whether it's in real estate whether others just in life like this is truly a moment for me. I'm so glad you ever wanted to come over to my closet and just like judge me up. You know what I mean. I mean you always have a look and I'm all about looks these days so yeah. I need a signature look. I don't even have a braun. Do we're not still hot. You can get a signature look. You don't have to spend a lot of money the D. The will was saying that yesterday. Those expensive clothes are not doing well those designer clothes nobody does that. I mean I had a client. Tell me nobody that no. I had a client. Tell me something I just couldn't believe right before her boyfriend died in Paris and they went to Chanelle and he bought her skirt but the the original should know skirt that they worked off of hundred and thirty five thousand dollars for skirt a skirt a tweed league skirts. Yeah we'll talk with it I could buy I could I mean I could buy an apartment yeah right. It's absurd that is so what happened. In New York is all these inexpensive stores that copy theory this theory but they come in now and they you get you know if you buy simple solid color <hes> you just can make it look fabulous and you have a beautiful scarf on. That's the thing you have always have your gorgeous gorgeous uniform and then you judge it up with great accessory and that's my dresses from old navy you know I went to shoot aware old navy but we're good pair of shoes in Africa until Chevy to shoes and if you travel you can buy I mean you. There are so many great close out there that a simple you gotta remember to match everything for the future so I if you chair right that's the word that's the case I bought in Capri in Italy. Oh my God so I just know where to go and this these weren't that expensive and I just can't find anything here that is nice. Some of the things you buy in Europe they are ahead of it ahead of the the look even h Zora's like the cheap stores chefs in Italy in April and I can go to his ARA in Italy and just clean the place out narrow zarate. Excuse me Sarah Sarah Zara my neck tell you do they have great stuff and many times I work with people that worked at Ralph Lauren and they mixed and matched and they use our <hes> h and A._M.. The mixed things you gotta do high low and my thing is this client who bought one hundred thousand dollar skirted Chanel what the problem is chanel didn't make my size so I'd have to end up spending two hundred thousand dollars taking skirts so I always do not go by icon sausages the icon yes. She was so <hes> because I ran into her. I couldn't believe her tiny. She was like <hes> but a great mouthpiece. Yes let me tell you and she said it as is that's. If you came for certain background like Judge Judy they and I came from that Maryland name-dropping my favorite questionable you came from Jewish background and with the parents parents were very much involved in every day of your life right and those children from a lot of these people strive to become very successful you see them doctors professors mayor you know our the mayor ex-mayor. I mean the all come from the very strong mother. Why do you think I am the way I am? My mother is like I have the mother and my mom is. She actually looks like a mixture of U.. N. Judge Judy Judy that is truly yes. Robert McMahon is so fierce and I grew up with the mother who spoke like Joan rivers like if you didn't look good she wasn't going to let me walk out of the House online nowadays everyone so sensitive and it's like all you can't body should nobody's body shaming me but if I toilet paper on my foot and Boob is hanging outside of my shirt. Please tell me I wanNA look my best. I WANNA set myself up for success right not to be on the page six worst-dressed in Manhattan Yeah although today at I know meeting my icon my idol I would've liked put on a brush. Maybe not living dress. My hair is like what am I literally address like an Amish like I should be shout out to the Amish. I should be on a farm somewhere like you know picking. You have to get his signature. Look like your friend a busy. Yes she puts on these weird things mix a hair pink. Yeah it's part of her whole thing right and this is where you have to get a signature. Look you have a certain very big personality. Yes you're right and because you have such a big personality. You have to show yourself. You could be a fashion icon cry. Wow why not not right life is quick. Yes into what you want. I learned my lesson whenever you hesitate. Don't hesitate who cares my era the problem was we all worried. When everybody said about US right couldn't do that? What will the neighbors say? What will my friends? No one cares anymore in cares years ago. He didn't get divorced. Oh what will everyone say right. That's so stupid. It's your life. You come along you leave alone. Yes get rid of him. Get another guy yes s well. This is the way it is now. Hang at why suffer I have a key sheeting kick them to the carb out good and you have to you have to think you have to think a lot of yourself. You secure. I very secure because if you weren't secure you wouldn't come across the way you do so like Joan rivers. She was secure just Judy Jewish upbringing. You're the best you're brilliant. Oh you are this and we have so many fun times with our parents in the things they said it never it never stops and people ask me. The one question I get from. Young Girls Online is like how do you have such good self confidence and I say honestly and truly my my mom was so like real honest with me growing up. There is nothing that it producer director could ever say to me that my own mother hasn't said so. I'm just like you know she also. She kept it real with me but she also said you're beautiful. You're funny. You got this do it so I think think we need to instill that and women you got this but also just like you know everybody is like how do I find self love if you don't get up every day and look in the mirror and say I'm good person like what I'm doing then. You've got to reevaluate some things. 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October 5: That's all she wrote

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October 5: That's all she wrote

"This is a CBC podcast with breaking news, suspected leader of a capital region chloe's been charged with sex trafficking and forced labor, serious. Awful pain was big, dragged across by body. What happens when someone you know tries to take down a bizarre self help group, which has been a part of for twelve years thinking, how am I going to get out of your like literally wears the back door? How do I scape escaping? Nexium from CBC podcasts, uncover subscribe now at CBC dot CA, slash uncover. Hello, I'm Carol good evening. I'm Jeff Douglas, and this is as it happens. The podcast addition. Tonight she wrote at the end of a long speech, Maine, Senator. Susan Collins says, she'll vote to confirm judge bet Cava, which means barring a last minute surprise. He will sit on the US supreme court, sparing no detail to spare others two years ago, Nobel peace prize winner. Nadia Murad told Canadian parliament about her life as a sex slave of ISIS and Ron. Ambrose says that convinced MP's bring hundreds of ziti refugees to Canada. He was hiding in plain sight, but after seven months living in Malaysia airport, a Syrian citizen is arrested. Our guest fears he will be deported to Syria and the sordid details. A valiant hero Yanks thousand year old Nordic soared from Swedish lake, and we're going to speak with her dad about that because she's eight and she's busy as it happens. Right addition, radio, that hopes he'll provide a saber second thought. The procedural hurdle was cleared barely tomorrow. The Senate will vote on the confirmation of judge Brett Cavanaugh whether he will be confirmed hangs on the votes of just a few Republican senators. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Jeff flake today, Senator Murkowski announced she would break with their party and vote. No Senator flake says he will vote, yes. And on the floor of the Senate this afternoon, Senator Collins spoke at length revealing that she will also vote to confirm. Here's part of what she had to say does spike the turbulent bitter fights surrounding his nomination might fervent hope is that bread Cavanaugh will work to lessen the divisions to end the supreme court so that we have far fewer five or to citizens. And so that public confidence in our tradition and our highest court is restored. Mr President, I will vote to confirm judge cabinet was Senator Susan Collins speaking earlier today, democratic Senator. Joe Manchin also declared. He would vote to confirm judge Cavanaugh as he explained his decision to reporters. He was drowned out by protesters. I looked at what was in front of me. Was that at thorough investigation, it was for my staff star. I sold the people that I was concerned about how they said what they said, how they did it. Democratic Senator Joe Manchin. Gen Bendery is senior politics reporter for huffpost. We reached her in Washington DC. So Jen is that it is this confirmation now locked in for judge Brett Cavanaugh at certainly looks like it. As of this afternoon, everybody has announced how they plan to vote and with the final news from Senator Susan Collins and Senator Joe Manchin Brett Cavagnaud has the votes to get confirmed tomorrow evening. So realistically, anything that could change between now. And then I mean, barring something completely insane. I don't see any reason why anything will change. We were just following senators, Susan Collins, her speech and making a very, very strong case as to why she is vote hanging favor of judge Cavin. Why wouldn't she follow Senator? Lisa Murkowski her call Republican colleague vote against this confirmation. I think there's a few reasons why would split it is very unusual for them to split. They like to vote together because it gives them cover. As moderate Republicans. But I think part of the reason this is just my guess because there's a lot of wondering why she voted. Yes, but I think that they have different constituencies, Lisa Murkowski gets elected and Alaska by mix of independence, Democrats and moderate Republicans. Whereas Susan Collins gets elected by more Republicans would lesser reliance on Democrats and independence. I also think that Susan Collins might have. This is just me speculating, but my guess is that Susan Collins has some plans down the road for after she's in the Senate. I got tells me maybe she's not running again and she's looking at how she'd like to set herself up after the Senate, who is she trying to court in Maine with this kind of vote. And if she leans to the right and votes with Trump and votes with the Republicans, then she can arguably run for something down the road, maybe governor or maybe land a Plum position in a Republican administration, having held up her end of the deal by supporting a conservative. Nominee to the supreme court. So she's setting yourself up for a more conservative or Republican aligned track with this vote. She also told her constituents that any. She would not vote in favor of anyone to the supreme court who might affect Roe versus way. So why is she so convinced that that's because many people are supporting back Kevin because they think that's exactly what he's going to do. I, she so convinced. That's a very good question. And it's a question that many people in the Senate have wondered as we speculated about where she would come down on this. It looks to me like she actually believes that Kevin would uphold the precedent of Roe versus Wade. On the other hand, despite, you know the soaring speeches that she may give on the Senate floor about her belief in this. One thing that is glossed over in that is that the supreme court is uniquely positioned to overturn precedent. So I don't know why she believes the cabinet would protect reproductive rights. I think maybe she thinks that he's a better pick than some of the other people on Trump's shortlist for the supreme court. So sort of picking, you know, out of that small pool, I, I guess more interesting is the democrat, and this is Senator Joe Manchin who voted in favor of the nomination. Why would he do that? Why would he break with the Democrats devote in favor of judge Cavanaugh, Joe Manchin breaks with the party on a number of thing. He's from West Virginia. It's a Trump state. There's a lot of. Republicans who really liked Trump. So in this case, you know, I think most people were expecting him to vote. Yes, but I think he conveniently wrote in on the coattails of Susan Collins who went onto the Senate floor and announced in a grand speech that she will be supporting Brett Kevin out. And when she did that that secured the votes already. So whatever mansions that after that didn't really matter. So I think he just conveniently now that the votes were locked in. I think he quickly put out his statement saying, I too will vote for him. So he's not like a deciding vote on anything that that that's him up for more comfortable re-election. But if the point was going to happen anyways, so his vote doesn't really matter. Right. I mean, I would have he would have been confirmed even without Senator mansions that, right. That is true, but he would've force it into being a tied vote, which would have required bringing in Mike Pence vice president to break the tie in which case cavenaugh would still be confirmed. So I think for Joe mansion whose election is coming up, he wants to make a few. Ripples as possible politically ahead of his his election. This allowed him to do that for a lot of people watching who observed to follow things on Thursday or and followed the fallout from Thursday of Christine, Bazi Ford and cavenaugh in those testimonies. The question that people are asking what was all that about? What was the point if it really is just going to go the way it would have been. If none of this had happened. I think that's a fair question. I don't think that just because have now is getting confirmed that that means that Dr Ford's effort and the two other women's allegations don't matter. I think very much matter. I think it has been very painful for women across the country who are survivors of sexual assault or rape. I also think that they see Dr Ford is brave. There's a watched it happening all around the capital and in my personal life, just all around me. I've seen so many women sharing their stories about what's happened to them and thanking Dr Ford for what she did because there is this much broader movement going on the me too movement with people just coming forward and calling out there users and they need to be believed. And I think if anything, I don't think Dr Ford's testimony was in vain because I think she has elevated this issue to a level where people have to look at it again, how significant victory is this for the Republicans? Will it affect what happens that the in the elections in November. There is some speculation I've seen right now about how the Cavanaugh fight has has fired up Republicans to now go to the polls and be excited and ready to get more engaged civically because of this. I think that it's a bit premature to say that. In fact, I think that the excitement and energy that some Republicans, they feel around Brett Cavagnaud will fade because we've still got a month ago for the election and Democrats by contrast have been very angry, very active ever since Trump got elected. So they're going to be roaring into November with all this energy and anger. And, and that's why at least one Republican strategists that I was reading about was saying strategically would have been better for Republicans. If the Senate had voted to confirm Brett Kevin out in like two weeks and not this weekend. Just we will be watching Jensen q. anytime. Jen bender is senior politics reporter for huffpost. We return Washington DC. For the past seven months, Hassan Alcon, tar has lived in the transit known of the Kuala Lumpur airport. When his Malaysian visa expired, he tried to go to Ecuador. He was not permitted to board that flight, and he was afraid that if he left the airport, he would be deported to Syria. So Mr. l. Konta stayed put now. He has been removed from his place of refuge on Monday. He was arrested by Malaysian authorities. We spoke to Mr. l. contour back in April when he had already been living in the airport for more than a month. Here's part of what he said at the time. It's not my Ford that I born with say that I am Syria. I can be an extra Ed value in any community. I am a very good worker, an expert, man. I keep trying to prove myself yet. I'm not able to find a place, safe place, a clean place where I can be read. I'm so sorry to hear this. It's just awful. Can I? Can I ask you what? If you have a Syrian passport, as you say, what would happen to you if you went back to Syria? I won't. There's thousand eleven because there's this military service. So I'm wanted to join the fight. I'm brave man, but it's not my fight. I cannot just bought a part of killing machine to destroy my on home since April. A group of Canadians has been trying to help Hassan. I'll leave the airport and resettle in Canada. Laurie Cooper, spearheads that group. We reach MS Cooper in Venice, Italy MS Cooper. As far as you know, where is has Alcon tar tonight. I've been told that he was moved from the police detentions, Nancy centers that he was in. He is now in an immigration centre in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, and why are they holding him? One will have on has been living in the arrival terminal at the airport in Malaysia for the last seven months after he's sort of got stuck, there was overstayed his visa in Malaysia and then was unable to lead the country and stuck in limbo. But on Monday, he was arrested by the Malaysian police. And initially they said they were going to charge him with criminal charges for being in a restricted area of the airport without a valid boarding pass today, they announced that they do not intend to in pursuit of criminal charges, but they have suggested that they want to deport 'cause on to Syria if they did proceed with the charges that he would stay in remained windy, so they would. They. They want him out. Yeah. If they had pursue the charges strangely, it would have been better for his because he, we would have had time to try to figure out how to protect him. What would happen to him if he was deported this area, it would. What does he believe would occur? Well, he would definitely be imprisoned because he is wanted because he did not complete his mandatory military service. He has very clearly stated his objections to the civil war that's happening in Syria, and he has been quite critical of the Assad regime, which means that he would definitely be imprisoned probable that he would be tortured, could be even worse. You and others have been trying to stop this deportation. And in fact try to bring him to Canada for all of these months that he has been in the airport. So what happened to your efforts? Well, application in a pro to sponsor. Launch, come to Canada. We raised over twenty thousand dollars to support that lots of application. The worked to find him a fulltime job. So he has a job offer, which includes housing in with liberty Columbia. He has four close family members here in Canada. So we had the Canadian tweeting government to expedite the processing time for that -cation. And today they have been not able willing to do that. His status of his file at this point, son has been accepted to Canada's that, right. His application has been approved. But what all that means is that when we submitted it was reviewed by immigration refugees into chip Canada, and they approved it so crossing at that point, it was sent overseas to high commission of Canada in Singapore, poor processing the standard of time for processing there is twenty three to twenty six months. He has said that he is willing to sit in that airport for twenty three months of that's what it takes. Right. Yeah, that's what he said. We are grateful that they have permitted him to be there for the last seven months and was only able to survive to the generosity of airline employees who provided him with airline meals. It can't to the point where Malaysia felt that he could no longer be in the airport. You know, when we spoke with him back in April, he talked about you and your efforts to help him. I just want to play a bit of the clip where he talks about what you've done for him. They made me believe again in human. They are just ruble volunteers, amazing people, no matter what consequences will be jailed or or to Syria. These people I'm in there. I'm grateful for them as long as I'm staying alive that was sound counter talking about what you and the other Canadians have done for him. Heartbreaking. I, you know, I have never met her phone, but I feel that I know him. I mean, we've gone through a lot together. We've spoken on the phone. We'd had video conversations. He has nicknames for me. I feel like he's my son and his mother has reached out to me and his sister to, you know, think Naper what I'm doing. But I just I'm very scared right now, but I'm also hopeful, I believe in our government, I, I'm just praying and hoping that they will do that. One of the things that the Malaysian immigration chief said about arresting has Kentucky is that he shamed Malaysia because of how much publicity he got that he was making these little videos people. I was following him on Twitter about what it's like to live in the airport, acts of kindness acts of cruelty that he was subjected to. What would it actually take this point to get into safe. Thirty. One signature from minister in the Gration. He just needs a what's called a temporary residence permit that the minister Kinney shoe for someone who is inappropriate situation, which would permit Hassan to fly immediately to Canada where pawn. He could wait here while his ship applications processed and without that signature what happens he could die. It's very, it's very real. It's so outside of our daily existence. You know, I'm a Canadian mom. I never thought that I would be in a position where I am fighting for someone's life. I'm just thinking the Canadian government to step in if would be so easy. We have raised of a twenty thousand dollars. We have sixty thousand signatures on a petition, asking the minister of immigration to allow them to come to Canada full job. Here he has family members living in Canada. He has dozens and dozens of volunteers who are ready to welcome him and integrate them into Canadian society, and I just don't understand why we can't help this young. Now, Cooper appreciate speaking with you and we will. It will keep in touch him. We'll see what happens. Thank you. Really appreciate your interest in sport by by by nearly Cooper is one of group of Canadians that has been trying to help Hassanal contact come to Canada since April. We reach MS Cooper in Venice. You have likely seen something like this on before? There is a place, usually an island that is small and quite geographically far from the focal piece of land the center of the map. And so they put this little island in a box and shifted closer to the focal point. It's completely inaccurate geographically speaking, but it's convenient and it makes everything just nice and compact from a design perspective. You've also probably spent little to no time questioning the existence of those boxes. I'm not sure Catroga for or you were from Shetland for some residents of that Scottish archipelago. Those map boxes have been a point of frustration, but this week, a new rule came into place that freeze their home from that to dimensional confinement by banning government bodies in Scotland from pudding Shetland in a box on maps. The rule was proposed by Shetland politician tavist Scott reach Mr. Scott in Lerwick. Shetland tavist. Why did you want to get Shetland out of the box? The many government publications maps and and other ways which chef and has been exhibited over the years has usually had the islands placed on a map in a box in the incorrect geographical position and many islands. If not, all of the islanders feel pretty upset by that, and we're fed up with the irradiation of being in the wrong place. So some opponent you legislation was available earlier this year, and I was able to move some changes to that legislation. So as to make sure that in future shop as you say, not in the ball, but in its correct position now, is it just because they the people don't like it could huggers again, Shetlander reason for putting Shetland a box. I guess the reason is we're two hundred miles north of of this mainland and therefore correct my pass. Stor has to have a favor to see the North Sea in the way. I don't have a problem with that because we live on islands. We depend on boats. We have a huge fishing industry that that depends on a prestige marine environment. We have the oil industry all around us as well in all the industrial mechanisms that depend on or use the see. So it seems to be a strange to have to see as part of a joker fiasco from this, the reality of where we are taggers who are posed of his band, say that if maps had Shetland where it should be, there will be no, no details. They actually use these boxes to avoid maps that are mostly water and you lose so much when you have to have to expand the map that large nor to have Shetland in there. Well, hey, hold my heart believes for them. I mean, they, we live where we live. I think it's time that we were putting the right place. That's what I believe. And it's not just my islands, but I think violence around the world have the same view. These of the as use these things. I think it's terribly kind of city Centric central. As we say skull from the central belt attitude, which is that Edinburgh Glasgow the center of the universe and everyone else who just be very lucky to be somewhere in the in the vicinity. I think we in chef and take the view is about time that we reverse that math, but instead of looking at it from the center, we looked at it from where we live that would make pleasant change in the modern digital world we live in. Okay. So we are talking. You can put Shetland in the middle and put what Great Britain in box. Absolutely. We have very good t shirts that sell very well to tourists doing our tourism season where exactly that happens. That shepherd is in the middle and in a small soft to the right to the rest of the UK. It seems to sell sickly well, okay. So what maps with this new rule applied to old government publications and the agencies of government now have to produce exact maps? We also offer broadcasters. I in. Our case the BBC and and others in the UK loves broadcast across the country to make sure them ups oracular the weather of the the famous one we've we've been literally removed pinched off the top of being received by the police, say the BBC got along better over the years. But those matter because obviously, people see those every night off to the also the news bulletins when amounts tend to be the ones that people really feel strongly about it because where the patterns in in and around the coastline of any any islands are are tends to be more dramatic than the weather to the middle of of the country. So those are the kind of mounts now that that have to be by Lobi. Correct. I wonder if this is good or bad for your tourism, because I guess when people look at him at and they say Shetlands in a box, I think it's not so far away, but if you see it where it is, it really is quite a distance. Do you think that will dissuade people from making that journey when it was just go to the outer Hebrides they look closer. I think the probably cups of both ways. I think people like to know where they're going on. It's a twelve hour ferry journey from Aberdeen on the northeast coast of Scotland all the way up to Shetlander tone in our flight from sloughs going in the middle of Scotland up to the islands. But I think people do want to know where they're going. We have been very fortunate to have had a great television crime series called Chaplin enough going that has been filmed in the islands, and there's now syndicated across the world not has many visitors diamonds, and I bumped into a couple from Sweden today who are walking close to where I stay in the islands, and they had fully understood where the islands onset that was part of the Trump. The twelve ferry journey was very much positive. One of the reasons they had had come to the island. So just in some distance on and the length of journey kind, of course be a disadvantage, but it can also be an advantage finding that with our growing tourism industry at the same time, this hatlin series. A Netflix, it really it really do see the beauty of the place, and I'm sure that appeals to people though they must presume that to have far more murders per capita than any other place in Scotland. Yeah, we. We keep telling people, it's just a story, not true. Yes, I accept that the same Swedish couple of trying to find the murder location of particularly gruesome instant of how during the filming, but I was able to tell them they were. They could find the location, but we have not had a merger in and so feel very safe. When you come this. Finally, do you think that other islands in a box they're going to start thinking? Well, they work for Shetland and they will start lobbying to get out of their boxes and good luck to them. I certainly had a few emails a few messages thing exactly that and I think from Thailand will from the the, the islands in the very west of the of the English Kohl's coast called the silly islands. They have the same problem. They invariably get put in a box. I think people live there have the same view. They are where they are, and that's part of why they're important. So it'll be interesting to see how others find the arguments that we've been able to successfully use in Scotland to to work in. In that part of the world tavist. I'm glad you're out of your box and. I would say really isn't appealing place to go. I appreciate speaking with you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Bye. Bye. Tavist Scott as a Scottish member of parliament for Shetland. We reached him in the Lerwick Shetland. And if you'd like to see some examples of Shetland being put in a box while you can visit our website CBC dot CA, slash h. For today's Nobel peace prize win, Eze, refugee, Nadia. Murad stunned Canada's parliamentarians with her story of survival at the hands of ISIS in two thousand sixteen on parliament. Hell MS Murad described being held captive by ISIS as a sex slave. The testimony helped convince the federal government to bring hundreds of us eighty refugees to Canada that year. She also spoke to see sees the current here is part of what she said and a warning. This is disturbing. Left them in Mocatta thought when they took us to the center, girls were taken to two rooms. The militants came and looked at us. They could pick whoever they desired, whoever they wanted. One of them approached me a very big men, a huge person. I was very scared of how big he was in. I didn't wanna go with him. So I begged another militant to take me for himself. No, eat him of your. This is what. They would do. They would keep the girls for a day or two days a week, and then they would pass them to different done yet foot, push his class. Women after I was freed. I thought that the world would bring Justice to us that the world would be fair to us. But still nothing has happened before my dream was to have a beauty salon to help girls look and feel pretty most now now I don't have that dream anymore. Now I just want our areas to be free. I want peace and I wanna go home. I was not Murad speaking to CBS's the current in two thousand sixteen today, MS Murad along with the Congolese gynecologist knee McQuay won the Nobel peace prize for their work in combating rape as a weapon of war. Ron. Ambrose got to know not Murad when she visited Canada in two thousand sixteen and the former in term interim conservative party leader helped champion MS Murad. 'cause on parliament hill, we retron Ambrose in London, England Ambrose. What did it mean to you to learn the news today that Nadia Murad is a recipient of the Nobel peace prize. Pride and joy and emotion quite wrong. Shen. After spending time with her and you heard some of what she's gone through. It's quite it's going motion because she's we had some time to spend talking about the things that she dealt with in whether it's the death of her, the murder of her brothers, her mother being sex, slave at the hands of ISIS and she, you know, to be on his having spent time with, I would say, I don't know if she's overcome that. I think she has compartmentalized it at one point. You know, she described it as sort of just feeling dead inside, but the ability of her to set this aside and to become an advocate for her people at such a young age. I mean, she she was just a young girl really when all started. She's only twenty five now and she and Ma USA. The youngest ever to receive this distinction of the Nobel peace prize. And what to say is this not only that she what she went through, which is just. Horrific has just unimaginable what she suffered as being raped repeatedly and treated as she was by these men pathetic urge to speak and when they wanted to disguise her to protect her identity so she could speak, no, no, she insisted that the world would know face her name, her voice. What did you make of that when you when when you encountered that? Not only was it courageous, talk about especially within her own culture and religion to talk about what had happened to her from sexual point of view because of the tabby issues is not that was relevant to her. It was about literally saving her people. I mean, it was remarkable to meet her and her strength in her poise, her clear determination to get these things done on behalf of people and to be voice. You know, we have been working on this since the, I guess it was International Women's Day in twenty sixteen with my first question to Justin Trudeau day in question period, asking him. To create a special program to bring us girls and into eighteen Canada, but it became apparent particularly when Nadia king ca, Canada. She heard what we're doing. She came to Canada, and then it was undeniable. No one could look at her and say, no, we don't want to help the government created a program. And she said, she never imagined that this would have happened, but she's become really a Harlan to her people into people all over the world. I'm gonna ask you about that voice that person coming into parliament and the affected had she was what she was in the gallery. When this was debated sitting with my husband, holding his hand squeezing it so hard for, they'll never forget that. She was not the only time she cried. I spend time with her listening and I remember I wanted to break down so many times and I thought, how could I, how could I cry when she doesn't. And I just held it all in the suit. She left the house. I just broke down. But she was so strong. I just couldn't. Where did she find that strength? I kept thinking to myself and then when the it was very emotional when the. When parliament voted in her favour, she broke down and she always collect physically. My hope for her is that she will heal and then she will find time to heal herself. I, I want her to be happy. I know she's engaged now into he'll and find a normal life. One of the significant things among all the other things you've just itemized that she did for the Zizi women girls for her people is the awareness. She brought to the world about rape and sexual assault as a crime of war as a weapon of war. There finally prosecutions about this and we're crimes. Tribunals Louise are bored, champion. Those the recognition that these aren't things that happened that some individual goes too far. These are organized campaigns to destroy communities and cultures through destroying their young women. So do you think that is ultimately what she's brought to the world? She has no doubt about that and exactly what you say that. The symptom Amores just a side effect and it just warrants dirty and nasty and complicated. And these things just happen when they just happen because the truth is rape, a use of the tool of our particularly when we think of ethnic cleansing. But what happened to be eighty? Women was exactly that when we talk about women, peace and security, it shouldn't be talked about, you know, over here in the sandbox, I, you know, this is just a gender issue that we add to the no two. The subtext of a of a particular discussion around the peace process. What should be at the center of these discussions? Because it's at the center of what is a big part of warfare. I think what she's done is remarkable. I look at her and I think my goodness for someone her age and for what she went through to be able to rise up and be that folks person. It's just it's remarkable. I don't know if you've had a chance to speak with natty Morad since this. Have you talked to her reached out to her? I did. I send her no right away. I'm in London on. I thought. PVC headline a little earlier than Canadians did, and I just want. I had a let out a big yell of glee and center, no right away telling your how incredibly proud of him or her. And all of us. Everyone is in that she's which is so well-deserved. I'm sure she's getting many, many messages like that from around the world. Zan rose. I really appreciate speaking with you. Thank you. No, thank you, Carol. Speak with you. My Rana embrose is of course, former interim leader of the conservative party. We reached our in London UK and later on in the program, we're going to look back at carols twenty twelve conversation with Dineen mcquaid gay is the Congolese gynecologist who won the Nobel peace prize alongside ninety Murad for his work in combating rape as a weapon of war. Are. Years ago, Chicago police officer, Jason Van Dyke shot. Lequan McDonald sixteen times. He said he was afraid of the seventeen year old because he was holding a knife. But when footage of the incident was finally released, Mr. Van Dyke story fell apart because for one thing, even after the seventeen year old had fallen to the street, the officer continued to shoot him. Well, today, a jury found Jason Van Dyke guilty of second degree murder in the shooting of Liqun McDonald. It is the first time in nearly fifty years at a Chicago police officer has been convicted for an on duty shooting after that verdict people outside the courthouse celebrated and chanted Justice for LA Kwan. Jamal Greene was there. We reach Mr. green in Chicago, Mr. green, what was the reaction outside when the verdict came down while we will relieve that he was found guilty on second-degree. But as well as each count of aggravated battery, love mad that he wasn't, you know, convicted officer misconduct because of course he's still has an appeal, but we really have a statement was made today officers all across the country is that he can't continue being judge, jury and executioner. When you say relieved, did you think it would go the other way? Well, you know, if you look in America when officers going trial, they always get off. Majority get off. You know, you rarely see officers actually getting convicted. So it was expected. You know, we were expecting a not guilty verdict, respect him to go home, expecting him put on another police uniform and end of the day. We are glad that that did not happen. When you say that there have been some thinking about what happened to police officer in Dallas who was sentenced to prison this summer for murder. And there have been some other cases that Oklahoma on your city. So do you think is the tide turning our our these cases are changing because you mentioned there were a lot of the shootings at didn't go this way now know about trying to. We've got a lot of work. Okay, we can't stop. Now. We got to make sure that the criminal Justice system works. We gotta make sure that we have good state's attorney good attorney general's people that will make up the criminal Justice system to be fair. You know, we need judges that are diverse. You know, we don't have many black or Hispanic judges and a and a county, and as a Cook County court, you know, we have to make sure that criminal. The criminal Justice system is made up of people who. Care to do what's right, and until we have that and we don't have anything, we just have mall wind along the way where we, we kinda got lucky. When do you think it was about the evidence that convinced jury. Wow, you know, I think that you know the fact that no other officer to start your weapon and he got out of his car with six seconds and he was already firing around the fact that lie on the stand and acted like the quantum was coming towards places part show. No remorse really acted like everything was right. You know, they look at at at those witnesses, witness testimony helped as well. So I mean, I think that he did horrible on the stand and the state attorney ripped apart. I wanna give the state's attorney. Thanks and, and you know, I appreciate the great work that they've done in this case because I think that they've done the job and they look at the jury, looked at all of that evidence and look that. Jason van dykes testimony which now we're hearing that if you Jerry said that that was why they decided he was guilty. Maybe it wasn't goofing. I'm gonna take the stand. So his testimony was pre was persuaded them of his guilt, but the video itself, can you describe the video and the effect it had on the jurors in and like likelihood. I mean, if you look at the video and you see, you see someone that shot ball to ground and you see air smoke for more bullets. I think videos very gruesome. I think the jury thought so as well is that why would you keep shooting? I think if he didn't shy shooting Klein as many times, it's possibly could've got shout shout at one time. He possibly could have got off what had a very a small charge, but I think it was the fact that he kept shooting was sixteen bullets. Why would you keep shooting him? He was defenseless. He wasn't a threat in the first place. It shouldn't have shot of the first because he wasn't a threat, but even when you shot him, why would you keep shooting? And I think that the jury. You know stuff that time and they, the argument was that the time they'd said that while that he was brandishing a knife and that the the officer fired in self-defense if it hadn't been for that video. Is it possible that this trial would even have taken place? No, I think that the video open everything. So I wanna thank the great work of Brandon Smith and William Callaway. They made sure it released wants to video got released. You know, that is when everything happened. So I just wanna thank them. And if there's video did not happen, we would not have be here today. So I'm headed to. I'm at a protest now. So to start went and protest because whether they protesting since they made under demonstrations, all the protests. And what you have is you have the mayor who played a partner cities, resigned today. You have all who signed off on the settlement. Rahm Emanuel put money into the war trust to convince them decide five million dollars quickly. So we have all these elected officials. Everybody who played this cover up, have to get out of our city. So now we gotta take it back saying now shifts to the political stakes political. Now we gotta do you gotta go? What does it mean for Chicago? This verdict, well, this may that change is now and it's up to us to do it. I can hear the two. He wanted to get into that that demonstation Mr. green appreciates taking with you. Thank you. Jamaal green is an activist and community leader in Chicago. That's where we reached him. Every parent has asked their children. Where did you get that? It's usually said in a somewhere between shock and disgust, but of and Yvonna check said it to his daughter while they were visiting lake Vida. Stern in Sweden. I imagine he whispered it and the tone was one of sheer all with maybe just a little disgust because Mr. Vanna checks eight year old daughter saga was somehow wielding an ancient Nordic sword, which looked kind of filthy and was definitely not a toy. We reached Andy Vanna check in Rita home, Sweden. And what was your daughter saga doing when she made this discovery? She was actually bringing a buoy out to me. I was going to the water was really low this summer. I hadn't rained for like a month. It was like the dry summer and Swedish history. Last two hundred. Years. So we had a big country blocks that we used to keep the boat instill in one spot. And so I was I was having her bring a buoy out to me and shoot taking it on three time like kids do you know, playing and picking up plans and rocks and throwing them around and stuff. And then she picked up what I thought was a stick. You know, it's kind of getting frustrated with their like she kind of looked at the stick a little strangely, and then she raise it high kind of like a proud Pippi Longstocking stance and to Popeye found a sword. And I was just kind of like what it's a stick. Right? And she's like, no, it's a sword. So I kinda ran over to her and sir enough. She's got this big rusty sword that looks like Viking sword in her hand. So what did you make of it when I look at it? Well, I mean, it looks like a Viking sword. The in looked really, really old. And you could see like the wood on the handle. The thing is that makes this sort unique is that it actually had the scabbard on it really. So yes, this is that's an I didn't realize because I just kind of looked like a big rusty sword, but the reason why looked rusty was 'cause it was leather and underneath leather were worn off would. And then in under that, you could see there was part of the sort of the kind of bench when she held it up there, the weak spot. You could see this. You can see the steel the rusty steel and then the wood, and then the ladder of the scabbard. So that's never happened. I mean, that type of material doesn't last fifteen hundred years in less than Senator certain circumstances like this was in the mud so it doesn't accident. There's gonna air there. So. And you mentioned only reason they say, you mentioned fifteen hundred years. How did you determine that that's held? It was. It's sort experts have looked at the images that we sent have. I guess they determined by looking at the shape of it and kind of the. You know, these sort experts, they see a lot of sorts and they've studied decided that. So that's what they kind of base. They're finding that. How did you get this sort experts involved. There's actually an archaeologist lives in the village where we have our summer house. I didn't know that, but the day after this is on a Sunday. So the day after going, I went to work and one of my colleagues knows and our allergist, and she looked at the pictures. She said that is she got goosebumps. She said, that's definitely a Viking age, sorta older. It's at least thousand years old and my in my estimation and she, she's an archaeologist, they have, you know, they know who to talk to and they sent the pictures off to sort experts and and they said that. But the cool thing about it is since it has the scabbard they can actually carbonate the would we'll be able to get a really close estimation of exactly how old it is. There are people. There's some people saying on online that she's like King Arthur, she should be the, she should be the Queen of Sweden. Now that she has kind the x caliber story where the latest the lake passes it to King Arthur made. So has she bought into that. Mythology. I don't think she knows about that yet. 'cause that is big, basically happened in the last twenty four hours or so. She was in school today. We haven't really talked to her about that. I mean, I've dropped the fact that she might be the cleanest Weeden couple times shit and understand what's but I'm talking about so far. I haven't heard from Cal Gustav and Sylvia, the king and Queen sweet and having having called me to to relinquish the throne or anything. So now they say that it's fifteen hundred years. So that would actually be older than Viking. Right. Exactly. Yeah. If it is disappointed as the Minnesota Vikings fan, if it's not a Viking sword, but it is pretty cool actually older than that if it is. You can't complain too much your accent does betray you as an American. Yeah, totally any theories as to who owned it any story around they can start constructing as to the person who soared might have been lost in that lake. Nothing too detailed yet the lake used to be a lot bigger. There was more water in that area back in that time. So there was a lot of transport. It was happened on on those lakes, so it's possible someone could have fallen overboard as possible. Somebody could have fallen through the ice when when they're transporting stuff in the winter, it's also possible. They've told me that, you know it could have been a burial because they did find a broach for Cape, it's about the same age, they think so they may have varied someone there. They also think it could be an offering to the gods because back in that time start that that they would offer there. Most valuable items, you know when they're desperate. So there's so many cool possibilities, but I mean, we'll never know for sure. So many stories that come out of that, and I appreciate you telling it to us. Thank you. No problem. Thanks for having. And eventually eight year old daughter saga pulled an ancient sword at of lake veto star in Sweden. We reach Mr. Vanna check in Rideau home, Sweden, and you can see saga who is so aptly named and the sword. She plucked from the lake on our website, CBC dot CA, slash h. You've been listening to the as it happens podcast. Our show can be heard Monday to Friday on CBC radio one and on Sirius satellite one, thirty seven following the world at six. 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Dorinda Medley & Kristin Cavallari

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Dorinda Medley & Kristin Cavallari

"Welcome to the Bravo. Clubhouse for the podcast division of watch. What happens live with me? Andy cohen. She's a fashion and lifestyle creator, and she'd probably get fired as a phone sex operator. It's watching Evans I with Darrin medley and Kristen Cavalieri now. I am your host. Andy Cohen in the Bravo. Clubhouse still reeling from another trip to the berkshires. We're derivatives bloody Halloween decorations were the least frightening part. Please welcome real of New York City and matriarch of bluestone manner during the madly. I met her as a teen in Laguna beach. And now, she manages the store staff with employees or motionlessly high school aged from very Cavalieri Sunday night, sunny, it's New York super van Kristen gavel area. The sale of both of your hair tonight. Ain't you both of your outfit? Coordinated. Good. I mean, I hate to ask is that Giovanni? That's now. Oh. Point. Okay. My friend Mona's shirt. I board. Over at the bar. We have a real housewives side character who is making the Kim dis Dana Wilkie and the whites of the world shake, and there are twenty five thousand dollars sunglasses say hi geringas icon, ick real estate agent. Lori cooper. I got to tell you people saw you on the show, and they wanted more and more and more. She sold me that apartment my apartment eighteen years ago wanted to buy an apartment call. Yes. By the way. I heard you sold departments to deniro and Kanye west L. She has. Wow. What do you think? Do you know Sonya, I know about her you? Know about her. Okay. Should rolling her eyes. She'd make a great housewife. I know my. I teach them thing or two. Let's get started to render. We are obsessing over the fact that you and Erica Jane have matching confessional. Did you sit out? I couldn't believe it. We were all winter. When tastes us would did at first she did. Wasn't on these ex-boyfriend made an appearance tonight. He is so out. This guy has been a cater waiter at events. I've been out. He's I he's like Razi great. I the friends of my friend, Greg Kalaheo ozo-. Yes, how I met him L all roads lead back to Greg Callejas. I know I know Greg I wanna get your opinion on all the sparkle themed outfits. It Bethany dinner party. Okay. Take a look you'll you could pick your favorite. Here's Bethany in silver pants belly revealing top. I mean, let's say if I had a stomach like that. I would do it to go. Three long sleeve top, you know. Clearly peanut going, Jeff. Drowsy with silver detailing kid. It's very collage shopping. What about sodas warlike left? I kind of felt like she was going to come out of it. And I think it's sexy. I think it's very Sonia. What about chins lease being sparkley spur spaghetti strap dress? I like it looks like a near stress. Barbara gets a lot of heat for clothes. She went with the black pants and polka-dot a little boring. Okay. Armstrong ring a little late. She could have worn some sparkles and stuff that up or notch. Thank you very much. Jesse wearing my Giovanni other cabaret Ramona was absolutely whole Larry tonight. Take a look at Ramona being Welt remote. Studied changing my PJ. I brought cocoa because she only has a year left. What are you giving the dog a death wish docket it really large wine glass, the metal stroke? I take it with me now like touching in between. Give me a jail or give me a truth here. Do you think you'll fall in love again? This is complicated. Enjoy the. Your questions for Durango and Kristen or coming in. But before we get to those. Here's what three things I'm obsessed with tonight. I if the walls of bluestone manner could talk the fish room would probably say, well, it is nobody wanted to sleep with me. And here's what all the rest of the walls would say run for your lives. New. Look at the ladies once again going buck wild in the beserk Shire's. Gary the guy that looks like crying. I'm in the fish room. Nerve putting me in the fishermen girls. Yes. Stop no sack. Mike bethany. You come near her room tonight. I'm going to punch your face out. There's this ring going on there's casting out going on. Laureus? Farting. The beserk shares looks a lot crazier when you don't drink. I mean, I that night looked insane. But also, it seemed like you were really going out of your way to meet Luandans needs. Well, you know what I decided going? I mean, my mantra was take the high road. There's less traffic up there. Take the Highwood 'cause my goal was to get her. I didn't want her to be able to distract. What does trying to do? The point was trying to finally talk with her and ask her do you want to be friends or not? I mean, I'm not continuing this. And I knew that she would use any point to, you know, make shoes thought to go there. Right as low doesn't always like to confront things. Okay. Well, second on tonight's episode. Bethany of the ladies over for dinner party where the women played a naughty game of truth or dare, and here's what if the ladies wanted to say hydrated between drinks and caviar Tinsley made sure to turn the waterworks on watch. Telomeres, the love of your life. I'm not doing that. Because me for doing nothing about putting him on laugh with girlfriend. I just said your boyfriend. I am trying to make this one work every day without must be very fun. It's literally torture. It seems like it's too much pressure. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. If you want my best girlfriend, I'd say we have to pull you out of this. Shrugged. But then you have to be strong women, and like nod let him drive I am not this like bra burning feminist thoughts Tinsley sets women back one hundred years. Kristen what's your reaction watching Tinsley in the way that she reacts to Scott? It actually kinda makes me sad. I don't think that anybody should feel like that. And be with someone that's really controlling everyone deserves to be happy. No, no relationship should be that much work. I don't think on the swimming. You agree. I agree. And I think you know, I think she was always walking on H shell. She didn't ask a question about Scott. So Finally, I was like I can't play raids with you. You know? No, she can't even call that great phones. Like you. Did it? Cushions farm in Tennessee. She tends to all the animals. So I don't think it's going to be a stretch of I asked her to tend to some women who made like bunnies. And in part of Hainault weren't exactly housebroken. Here's what it's time to get. Kristen take on all the NYC drama with Bravo. No. They did. And okay. How do you feel about Barbra? Good addition to the group, I'm getting used to her okay? About a huge endorsement reaction to extreme outrage of being put in the fish room and overall Adams. Scott. Ju- prove of remote, Sonia and Tinsley taking lobsters home from Barbara's clam bake. Well, I believe Barbara said that they could. Okay. Oh, in that sense. Why not how did you feel about Terendak kicking Barbara out of the her apartment? Lot of debt. Okay. If Bethany would you forgive Ramona for her insensitive comments about Dennis, oh, that's tough. I think you have to just to make make the peace and move on. But you always remember it. Do you think that tins? Lease Mondale puts too much pressure on her to get married and have babies, yes. And I think that's part of the reason why she's in this situation right on a scale of one to ten how do you rate Ramona's flirtation skills? Hurry. Makeover though to seems to think so. No belly button. Yeah. Let's just age appropriately. Thank you very much. Okay. Let's go to Jessica from Michigan. He Jessica which question. Hi anne. My question for Renna. Okay. I Jessica what would you react, what was your reaction to Tinsley telling Liu and her struggle with alcohol is just like a peanut allergy. The hard hitting. It was very Kinsley. Okay. Very tinsley. But you're Kinsey does have a way sometimes minimising almost childlike responding to things. So it was almost like a child like response. Let's go to Eric from California for Kristen Cavalieri, Eric. What's your question? It's actually errand not air. Erin. I'm sorry. Okay. Hi, Andy tied Arinda either. How? So like, what's in it for Kristen what was your reaction to Whitney recently saying that the infamous trip to Paris on the hills never actually happened. This is the first I'm hearing about this. That was pre my time. So had you heard that before I've never heard that. But I can tell you most of my stuff wasn't real. So I'm gonna take that road say that maybe it's true people are finally coming out saying that stuff isn't real because for the longest time. It was only me you think you wouldn't need. Yeah. I just like to point out the Newark housewives pretty real. I mean now, it's completely real. Ask us about the house is saying we all pretty much the way we are onset as we are all that's. What are the house has like, I'm like, wow. No the show. Let's go to Denise Rica. Donkey four Arinda what your question to these? Andy, first of all, I love your babies beautiful things. And Secondly renting, you're my favorite housewife. Denise you're welcome. Why did you send Lou Ann of how it Perry quote? And what did you think of Bethany and her mocking it the light of juice under the Tyler Perry quote? And what did you think of all of them mocking it, I sent it? Because I just felt like I felt like the whole seemed appropriate quote was very appropriate. Tyler apparently, Perry supposedly loved it. And. I wanted to start a conversation because she was voting me and avoiding me, and I didn't I didn't want to kiss the ring. So I thought this was a way of opening a conversation, and it wasn't. I could do. No, right. I clearly don't know. Right for the next day. Tyler Perry was texting me inspirational quotes now said all morning long like memes of tell. There you go after quote on your girl next week's New York the Ramona coaster does if you loops around one of her old flames, here's a sink p. Purposely got married later. I waited I wanted to marriage lasts forever. You got to go with the flow. There's no rules. I got a new rule it should be a renewable contract. No. I think what's really important is communication like you. Don't wait a things like coal apart. She communicates. A, hey, I'm not happy because of this list discussing marriage should be a renewable contract renewing. All right. Let's go to Mike from Boston for Kristen Cavalieri, which your question. Mike, a an independent into my question is for Kristen. Yup. Reston's with Jay getting rid of your milk. Ducts by sucking, the milk himself and nicest thing he's ever done for now. What's that the nicest thing, I mean, getting saved my life? Let's be on us. Listen, you can't judge it and left unless you breastfed. Okay. So I stopped breastfeeding. And then we went on vacation like a week later, and I hadn't my milk hadn't completely dried up. I didn't have a baby I didn't have a pump. And so I was in a lot of pain, and they can get really infected, and you know, it's a whole thing. And not that. I remember your number. Listen, Jay, how to do what he had to do. And did you Google it? How to find out that? That's what needed out. He literally was like, we'll listen. I mean, if a baby can do it. I you know, I get down there. It'd be a video to it. I love that works, really. Well. Okay. These things you can drink your daughters that one really I hear you've tried an Andy don't try to play like, amber Tamblyn, breast milk on either on that was very I can still taste it. To render now that you know of everyone starts on the fish room or you planning on redecorating. Donna m Winston. I'm not giving any secrets about that. Listen, you know, what I'm planning on not inviting them again. I call him the wicked the wicked. I'm Cinderella under the wicked stepsisters it's game time. Everybody. Others said Sonya into a dark trance. So I hope what we're about to do doesn't cause miss Morgan to leave her body. Again. It's time for. Morgan letter talk. I'm gonna present you with the classic lady Morgan as one letter at a time you both to compete to see who can yell out. The correct Sonia quote for each round whoever gets the most right by the end. We'll become heir to the Morgan fortune. Okay. Our first category is that ridge accessory, the letters will present themselves trying to guess what the quotas. I'm the straw. They serves the drink. This. Okay, that's category. Did you forget someone? What are you doing here without doing? Dating advice from Sonia. More hours. The there's. I sleep with and guys you for that. All right. Okay. Let's see the next category. Drinking mantras, let's reveal. I always had the greatest time. Oh. Next up special skills section. I. I. Say yes, love stop one more mobile. I love this game. I'm international facts. Emily from Ohio ver-, Kristen Cavalieri. Hey, andy. My question for dirigiste is you've had issues with Sonia using the Morgan crest. Why did you bring her to the Morgan estate where you trying to round her up? No goodness. So I just wrote about this in my blog. He must not read the Russell blogs. I did it as a fake leap. I thought it was a nice opportunity to say something nice for and what she would enjoy. Yeah. And and I thought gotta remember my house was built by Mr. Stanley. And that was built by Mr. Morgan, and then there's the whole Morgan Stanley. So we kind of have been similar for very long time. Let's go to crystal from Indiana for Kristen what's your question? However, everyone had to run you're one of my favorite fish. Thank you. Kristen what do you think of Matiur Barton joining hills review and who thinks she's gonna have the most trouble getting along with? It's interesting. I would say I was very surprised by that. Yeah. I was too. I mean, I'm curious like everybody else to see it. I can't wait. But who do I think she's going to have the hardest time with here? Stephanie Pratt is sort of stirring, the pot, and who are you still in touch with from that, Chris still talk to Adriana and Heidi? Yeah, I do and Brody a little bit. All right. It's time for the day goes to this newborn inspired photo shoot with a French bulldog puppy that's super cute. It's very inspirational especially for someone like Ramona who's bound to get a new dog soon because well CoCo because she only has a year left to move. I know God today's Jack whole goes to the Florida man who was. Arrested last week. Always a Florida man for his alleged drunk and obscene behavior that included sitting shirtless in front of an Italian restaurant and aggressively eating handfuls of pasta. Not sure how much personal information. The police jot down in their report when they arrested him. But I gotta ask is seeing anybody. Guy. Surprised by how hard Lou was going on Bethany about the fish is it. I just think loose suffers the loss of memory. I mean, I don't know. I mean talk about no deed goes on punished. All right. I want to rid the Christian. For the ridden. And Kristen Barry cavalier. Hosting FOX's new show paradise hotel premiering on may ninth buying the bar. Laurie Cooper Deridder. Laurie. So the market is for luxury apartments is it softening or what what is it? It depends on where. Okay, I'm in the west village. It's a hot area always upper east side. Still the best kept secret. How about all these tall? And so Bill I get gets a lot of you get great apartments reasonable prices. Yeah. Near the schools central park big space. What do you think about the all these big pencil buildings that are like two hundred stories tall that are going up? I mean, they freaked me out. I think they're screwing up the skyline. I don't know. What market they're trying to attract be, right? We're not getting the Europeans. Like we were. So, you know, do you wanna see view from the end? You're building shaking. Yeah. All the way up there. You know? All right. Let's go to Jacqueline from Boston. They Jacqueline what your question. I n b bend Instagram pick of beyond beautiful. Thank you. I love you render hoick. Thank you. You're welcome. My question is for Chris. Cinta which New York City housewife. Do you think would be the best in the worst competitor on paradise hotel question? All right. So it's all about coupling up. So I'm gonna say Sonia would be the bad. And the worst told me that new girl's name again, Barbara. Room on. Now. Let's go to shave Larga four Dorando what your question. Hey, ain't if shag from Georgia first of all, congratulations on your baby. And hey, associate with a head full of hair. He is a dull to render. Yes, you've been somewhat these somewhat vindicated from last they've been Eker saying how Lou weigh-in tastes Bethany for granted. Even after she has -solutely. Absolutely. You gotta remember this isn't the first time. There was Barbara. Then there's me then there's Bethany, and you know, as Dr Phil said pass behavior represents future behavior. Okay. I want to rid. Dot com tonight. Everybody. Thanks for listening to the podcast everybody. Hope you enjoyed the show. Remember, new episodes? Go live Monday through Friday at four PM eastern time. Make sure you're subscribed to have a great rest of your night.

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July 4, 2019: Trump Pushes For Census Citizenship Question; A New Gilded Age In America?

Here & Now

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

July 4, 2019: Trump Pushes For Census Citizenship Question; A New Gilded Age In America?

"It's here and now i'm lisa mullins president trump acknowledge with a tweet today the employees at the commerce and justice departments are hard at work on this july fourth holiday they're scrambling to find a legal justification to edit question to the census that asks whether someone isn't american instead of some the rush began yesterday when donald trump declared on twitter that he wanted the question added to the survey that was one day after the census form started to be printed without the question because of supreme court ruled it out for now yesterday to federal judges ordered the administration to justify its reasoning for the move let's get the latest now from emily babylon staff writer for the new york times magazine in a fellow at yale law school emily how unusual is this i can't overstate how unusual what happened in court was yesterday where where's the justice department reverse their own representation from the day before said that other than president trump's tweet they had no guidance about what was happening as that they had been instructed front of from above love to come up or to see if they could come up with a legal rationale for adding the citizenship question what makes us so unusual it's there's just no question that the day before when they were saying that the administration was ready to drop the citizenship ship question or at least that forms or being printed without it it is clear that he attorney general the united states bill bar and the secretary of commerce wilbur ross had signed off on this decision so this really did come from president trump and it's a reversal of the administration's own position and in response to the supreme court's decision and here's what the president said monday about the supreme court's decision to have the question cut for now to go this is where everybody is so we're going to do that why i did the supreme court leave a window open on the question the kid opinion the majority opinion is from chief justice john roberts and he said that the government had the authority to add this question but had to provide a plausible true rationale for doing so andrew roberts said that the rationale that the commerce department had so far supplied what's contrived in other words it was made up a pre taxed and so the idea was well if you can go back commerce department and come up with a reason that is you're real reason for doing this then will look at that and consider whether to let the citizenship question up here on the census forms on any end so today there were reports the the president might issue an executive order to make it happen is at all it would take no i don't think so i mean the problems we're the commerce department's lack of a plausible rationale would presumably also applies executive order in other words trump just can't do an end run around the process that has already gone through the courts by you know signing a piece of paper with with his pen it has the same burden 'em as the commerce department has and so i think that would just be a kind of another loop in the litigation litigation of trying to look at the rationale behind the decision and whether it is in fact plausible not not a high bar right little could clarify though what kind of a argument the administration might making the courts cause yesterday to federal judges jews who had ruled against the question said deadlines for these white house to respond a judge in maryland once answered by tomorrow afternoon a judge in new york wants answers by next week what could do ministration say right that's a great question they administration station could say hey we're just gathering information for the sake of doing that it could continue to try to make this original justification were trying to enforce the voting rights act could try that provide evidence that that was in fact the justification i think that would be very difficult based on the court richard justice alito in concurrence last week said that one rationale would beat a healthy united states government protect immigrants against discrimination the trump administration could try the claim but that's it's true rationale i'm not sure what evidence that would be there would be for that and then the one other option is to allow districts electoral districts state and local elections to be drawn on the basis of citizenship as opposed posed to the one person one vote full population count we currently use it's possible that is illegal rout it hasn't been tested before it is probably what was really going on in the first place based on the rock road and the trump administration has so far are not said that not tried to justify that it would be a huge shift unpolitical power on if we did redistricting based merely on the counter citizens it's a shift that would benefit mostly white and republican rural voters could this go back the supreme court yes absolutely i think if the trump administration really pursues this a rout of looking for an alternate justification it continues to try to add a citizenship question will absolutely go back to the supreme court and the reaction action to all of this outside of the justice department of in in a in a wider circles is watch i mean trump has deep concern about the census the census is a huge mission it's are biggest piece he's time mission that we conduct it's complicated they're all these moving parts when you start making it shaky because you are delaying or your not clear about the process you're gonna use you threaten the accuracy of the count and so i think there's real concern about census observers immigrant's rights groups that the census bureau will be forced to cut corners to do things in a rush in a way that will only undermine the accuracy of the census and there's also just the problem of the damage that's already been done with all the publicity about the citizenship question people who are afraid to give information to the government because they're not citizens or they leave with people aren't citizens they may still be afraid no matter what reassurances are provided at this point emily baz long staff writer for the new york times magazine in a fellow at yale law school thank you thanks so much every year thousands of people become naturalized citizens since two thousand five thirty two hundred students have gone through the preparation program offered to immigrants to montgomery college in maryland have become citizens nancy newton is the program director and nancy what distinguishes your program from others we are quite unusual in that we ask us students to be and taking the test and the oath to become a citizen you have in the history of government and also english language but we also want students to look at what it means to become any member of the community in the u s and how'd you do that i know you for one thing you you ask them to volunteer and i i wonder about that because you would think that a lot of these newcomers assuming most are newcomers are just trying to get up to speed with the culture and was making a living right and that's that's them a little better misconception about naturalization is quite a long process people may have been in the united states for a number of years so we actually find quite a lot of our students are already volunteering and then we just continue to take the founding members along something as simple as going to the library in the library cocked 'cause i lost a va loan is a library and then they just countries like a museum and not sure if all the services are available to the library very focusing a library cock and open them up to on the children up just such a great world of possibilities can you think of one particular story didn't the time you would consider a success that has to do with wonder if you're students who is gone out into the community yes so we have any student who was say a high beginning level english letter so her english language was somewhat limited so she hired herself attacks he said the day and she went around to all these monuments in dc and she wanted to really mess herself in history of the united states the lincoln memorial the washington memorial and along the way she reported back but she felt so enamored by what she felt and afterwards she went home and she began to volunteer a local church and from that she got her friends involved involuntary voluntary all from you know just going out jumping in a taxi and talking to people at the national monuments wherever she from by the way she's from iraq i mean that sounds like the kind of result you want it really is leaser naturalization is the culmination combination of such a long journey for a lot of you know alana's and so when they come in and they say oh you know i've done this and now i'm involved with volunteering and i'm brandy starting to understand you know the united states the feeling you you don't often get in your everyday gel and you went through the process yourself a year from england you became a naturalized citizen i would imagine that your experience was quite different from those if you're students right now compare the two force yes quite different from i originally came over to be uss a new path with mary poppins but for me i'm a native speaker i'm white and it was robbed a simple but some of our listeners it's been so harrowing some of them were very limited english and having to navigate the system when english if not you'll first language is extraordinarily difficult so it requires a lot support for all and it's but then once you get through the protest and you've been fingerprinted and you'll background check has been done and you go to the actual interview financial ization and suddenly you're looking get somebody but he in the things who is the president of the united states yeah mind goes beyond i like chicken you know you don't have you know the circumstances on great so that's why you know program we try and help people turn number two breeze muster membership reads when you go that but the feeling that you get asked a an officer says to you congratulations you've passed is second to none because for a loss of all learn is that means now the beginning of a new journey nancy newton is the citizenship program director montgomery college nancy nice to talk to you thank you and happy fourth of july thank you to lisa have a lovely that we're in now is supported by daily harvest daily harvest delivers carefully sourced chef crafted smoothies soups harvest bowls overnight oats and more all built on fruits and vegetables each single serving up and be prepared in minutes daily harvest is designed for convenience so you could load up on fruits and vegetables first thing in the morning before bed at any time in between learn more about daily harvest and get three free cups in your first box when you go to daily harvest dot com and use promo code now that daily harvest dot com use promo code no we've got a big weekend coming up in the world is sports the tour de france bicycle extravaganza starts saturday and the women's world cup final is sunday these women will plays nettle ends for the title on sunday in france meanwhile basketball fans are keeping tabs on free agency let's bring in mike pesca here in sports analyst and host of the daily podcast the gist from sleep dot com a mike when we start off with two of the biggest nbc stars who were switching teams kevin durant and kyrie irving or heading off to play for the brooklyn nets question is why brooklyn brooklyn is cool place delivery of two blocks from there that by the way is something the nets are very well run team 'em they haven't had a huge success but they've been on the upswing their management their coach kenny atkinson attractive place to play play but really what it is is the players themselves it's called the player empowerment they get together they work out a destination where they'd be happy and essentially you know a d andre jordan who's another player go into brooklyn gets together with his friends kyri irene kevin durant and they all decided to go and we should say durant's probably gonna be out all of next year 'cause he had a grievous injury in the playoffs but it's a four year contract so the future looks bright on flatbush avenue their rent is leaving the golden state warriors who lost the toronto toronto raptors in mb finals the season but the warriors have been the gold standard so to speak in the bay for the past few years but do you think that is dumb yeah i think it's done i don't i wouldn't say that they are for certain going to be a losing team but not only do they lose durant's but they also lose klay thompson who also like durant's had a terrible injury in the finals they also lose eight key component a great defensive player andre iguodala i mean i just looked at the las vegas odds in past years not only were they a favorite they were what's called the odds on favorite you'd have to bet you know a hundred fifty dollars to win a hundred if they want nb a title they're probably going to go off it's like more of a twenty two one shot this year so that still leaves the biggest name out there collide leonard who led the raptors should be a championship could toronto afford to let him go they might not have a choice i said pair player empowerment europe before that's what it is this wouldn't be why stabbing them in the back or anything like that he did deliver a championship under to the north but this was essentially they knew it was a one year rental when they made the trade for why from the from the spurs and if collide decides that his passions live there north of the border he could reach up but there just seems to be a lot of indication that he's interested in one of these southern california teams yeli clippers lakers yeah i mean you think they would wanna be with a winning team which now the toronto raptors are but i guess we have to keep in mind at their players and they are businessmen well other thing when you have players this good they are a winning team you know collide leonard can go to any team in the league and i do mean if he could go to the worst team in the league which is the knicks last year co why leonard alone there were three or four guys that player alone makes the team a winning team such as the nature of basketball and the excellence of individual players were talking about what's happening with lebron james and the lakers they didn't even make it to the playoffs this season 'em is james attracting other star players joining manelli yes one of other final five ten best players in the league anthony davis is headed to allay so that alone makes them one of the favorites to win the title after not even making the playoffs to get davis they traded almost the whole team but if collide leonard or goes to join them you have another situation further down the coast of eight super team of it's supposedly unbeatable super team remember the last supposedly unbeatable super team was beaten by why leonard and his raptors mike pesca hearing now sports analysts to the daily podcast the gist at slate dot com thank you mike you're welcome this week syria accused israel of attacks that killed several people outside the capital damascus says lives near its border with lebanon it's been eight years since the civil war broke out in syria and violence has become the norm for locals according to the united nations almost six million syrians have been displaced from their country and each one of them has a story wb viewers yasmeen emory tells us about one man's journey thirty seven year old son of corn thought is from a syrian city called swayed a he grew up with two siblings in a tight knit middle class family but it's been more than a decade since her son has seen them any austin rounding assist on that fond memories together i used to go to a farm my father every weekend a small farm with some of the cities and small house with no electricity but did he teach me a bad deal the new children's hope to not for good my roots in two thousand and six hassan travel to a welfare state the united arab emirates her you eighty hoping to give us family greater financial security but in twenty eleven everything everything changed it felt began at first light the syrian regime bringing rule out a brutal civil war broke out in syria has some new if he went back home he'd be forced to serve any army was against my principles my moral i own two votes not destroying has sent father died in twenty sixteen he couldn't attend his funeral and he says what really we ate at him is that he wished for the opportunity to make his father truly proud when has son was eventually expelled from the uae he he went to malaysia under a temporary visa when that ran out he broke the ticket to ecuador where travelers can and usually get a visa upon entry as her son was waiting to board airline staff abruptly cancelled his ticket without an explanation or a refund so there he was stuck at the kuala lumpur airport in malaysia unable to leave the terminal with no money nor vesa to go anywhere else desperate he took out his phone in started recording himself in posting on twitter i have been here for the last four days well i'm stuck in give us and there is no other places all comers except for his videos copy attention of someone very far away by the time we heard about her son he'd been airport for about thirty five days laurie cooper is a fifty eight year old mother of two to adult children from whistler british columbia she teamed up with other volunteers to privately sponsors syrian refugees succumb to canada in his son situation i kind of thought well his mom can help him but i'm a position where i might be they're helping so of my personal motivation really comes from i think that feeling of being a mom laurie sent applications and letters on hassan half she collected tens of thousands of signatures for a petition to canada's immigration minister today's minority party and starts in a modest other news today is six but just days turned into months in san with still at the airport he was sleeping under a stairwell eating leftover airline there's little mister show this week i'm even say but a little bit of a solid i i certify the everywhere despite all humans going through has sent kept a lot of his social media posts slight making jokes and celebrating the little things of course you would start showing those things on your life a more a you wouldn't talk appreciating it more that's why i will what what i was trying to do by doing the normal stuff if you study honesty and keep in mind my says end the other rules the outside wall that i'm the one who deserve to be treated those whose lives a normal life but he was austin reminded of just how far from normal this living nightmare was like on has one hundred and seventy fourth day when his younger brother got married and he couldn't be at the wedding hassans most difficult days though came seven months after he arrived at the airport he was arrested by thirteen armed guards taken to a small cold cell and threatened with deportation of syria lori was traveling when she heard the news if he had been deported to syria he certainly would have been imprisoned and it's highly likely that he would have been killed so i really felt that you know he was in a life or death situation and i thought what the heck i never thought in my life that i would be fighting for the life of some person i've never even met fan what's in the dark the guards wouldn't let him talk to anyone one still he believed lori was still fighting for him i had like a piece of mind that it's going to be all that they finally came about two months later when laurie got an alert from canadian officials sent sponsorship papers had finally been approved basically twenty four hours notice that he was coming to canada and that was just unbelievable i knew that it's going to happen one day but the i did not even be that much beautiful and truly when i saw muddy airport it released just felt like my son was coming home my son with home now has sun has been living with lori in her family since november as he adjusts this new life in canada he's still can't go home it's too dangerous but he's on a mission to try to help others syrians like him tell their stories and help them find refuge something his father would have wanted him to do somehow no i have the beef that a he's he's happy has sent imagines what his father would say to him now after everything he's been i'm proud of you specialty is going to some clouds a few keep an eye on the movie don't forget to that story is produced by ask me hammer f wb be whereas kind world podcast usa economy entered its one hundred twenty first month of consecutive gross this week that's a historic high the beats beats out the dot com boom in the nineties by a month but while all that growth is led to low unemployment it is increased inequality making some people wonder whether in a new gilded age for more now let's bring in robyn farside host of public radio's full disclosure lucia hype ron how're you good so what do you think are we living in a new gilded age i don't know if we need a great gatsby sequel quite yet but the number of people receiving federal food stamps is north of thirty nine million that's up forty percent from two thousand even as the national population is up just by eight percent you you hear all about rents going up and crowding people out you look at the bay area and homeless crises of loss angeles and manhattan in an even above that a disturbing fraction of americans still can't come up with say five hundred dollars for the unforeseen expense an were seeing the number of billionaires in you as more than double in the past decade back in two thousand eight we had two hundred sixty seven a last year we had six hundred seven how are they making their money sure yeah tech entrepreneurship property values farmland you see recor dark values the usa stock market is again at a wreck cleared so portfolios are fat there's been just a healthy almost indefatigable mergers and acquisitions acquisitions market whether you're talking about small business a family business public private writ large i think assets the world over truly swelled in value in the decade since the financial crisis and that's just spiked the number of billionaires everywhere how much of this is the result of trump policies or did they a trend predate those look i think so much of this is driven by a tech you talk about the gilded age and big tech you routinely have the giants have big tech i mean even before trump trump was in office there were approaching market values the word bumping up against the trillion whether you're talking about amazon or apple jeff bezos you take him the ceo and founder of amazon he's worth a hundred and twenty one billion dollars he spent pocket change they essentially so they found in the cushions of his couch to by the washington post and his companies spent fourteen billion dollars to buy whole foods so it's not just big tech it's big grocery this is a it's just been incredible decade for a handful of players and they've made many many many millionaires of employees and their their founders and fellow executives are billionaires is well so what is the best hope to try and do is never gonna have an even playing field but try end reduced inequity you it goes back to the caddy book and be a the the controversy this cours talking about a conversation about wages are better social safety net a rich people are are gonna become wealthy but are they being tax at the correct clip offer capital gains if anything you saw trump coming in with a you know there's recor tax plan on coming in capital gains tax rates for people it's much easier to keep upside that you've had in their other people like elizabeth warren and on the left flank of the democratic party saying that some of that has to be recaptured captured a to level the playing field you talked about even argument with medicare for all is younger people who came of age in the financial crisis professionally are are very adverse having to pay full freight for healthcare expenses so there's at least this conversation conversation you're gonna see it hit a fever pitch as the top of the democratic field wiggles down from twenty five people to one robyn farside host a public radio's full disclosure drinking likewise lisa thank thank when david french needs money he heads underground he finds his favorite subway stop in boston and starts playing let's say the rest of my heart france is a professional violinist but he was homeless for a time in slip behind me aquarium downtown boston these days though he chooses to frugally it could be performing in teaching for good money instead he gives his time and talent to help change the life of teenagers through classical music f the rush to ready to france teachers coaches and controls these kids three hours a day five afternoons a week in the cafeteria at the john deal brian school and the rocks reporter boston on this day eight high school students pulled their seats in the circle starting metronome at practice practice practice france calls the group of young musicians the rocks for youth orchestra it's part of an organization france founded in twenty thirteen revolution of hope here's the group in concert two years ago i will be the trend is life experience in helping identify five and some of the kids he teaches he's the child of immigrants from the west indies andy felt a bit adrift when he was young i was super shy and i really needed voice and bows seven offered a chance to play the violin sort of free pilot program so i kind of found my voice and find my way those free violin lessons changed everything france develop skills the propelled him to new england conservatory on graduate fellowship he studied the renowned el systemic program in venezuela venezuela and saw how young people in the neighborhoods rocked by poverty were uplifted by classical music training he came to realize students who come from low income backgrounds connex sell just as much as wealthy ones if they have the right teacher one an you're cute one in three and four starting at thirty one percent the i q e oh one and two i came when attorney to use music transform their life and they wanna play the ditchmitch but they won't one point what prince equal parts in theory uncle and sarcastic sibling but mostly meticulous maestro well i think it's pretty hopeless sacrifices a lot of time to be able to teach us all the media scrutiny is one of the fourteen kids who played in your country this year he took up the violin eight months ago he any other students only have to pay one hundred fifty dollars a semester that would normally covered just a few lessons were kid instruments are donated diaz says he appreciates that france makes the program affordable end but he doesn't make make it easy he's very kind but he's also strict you could get the wrong idea because he shut all the time but behind the strip is there's meaning what you want the teachers more he wants to get better he will be without a program like this wouldn't be playing the violin because like i mean my family we i'm not gonna say look we don't have money but we don't have too much money spent on top of things are like like essential like we can do it by like it wouldn't be too wide before savior joined the program you never even been to a concert this first week with a group play this invigorating i kind of forgot the fact that is my first time their first time anywhere in this country and performing in one i'll just like some russian the music i wasn't joined the fact that was playing the music playing for other people that they're enjoying get to david france these kids become musicians the moment they take their instruments in their hands he sees music and the connections that brings is a vehicle for the students to expand their boundaries a lotta times jim people who lives in neighborhoods like this they don't feel other parts of the city are places maybe that they're walking every year when we got a harvard square whether it's reformer just it just hang out there's usually a student who's never been there and they can get there on the bus her the train and so finished music be a bridge connecting people who maybe wouldn't normally interact that's what it wants him to and green on the screen one to brady and interact with each other there have been times when a student is not very communicative and maybe i see a cure is rolling their eyes and while i'm tough on they're intonation imposture i might step back a little bit that day and just let them be in their in their feelings i think the last part one of the reasons why they come back because they're allowed other people have many places where they're allowed to be themselves and they're allowed even pack up and walk out without saying anything and then the next day not treating them as if they walked out you know giving every new day at a new opportunity to allow them to step into hopefully a space where there's a lot of joy france wants to help the kids becomes musically proficient as possible whether they plan to pursue careers going on leon upward teal had studied violin briefly before she joined orchestra she says the program has made her passion it's after school you could be doing a lot of things why are you here i'm here because i want the violin as my career so i'm putting in all my work now so that in the future and pay off later and if you didn't have david here would there be a program for you know because without mr france on my violin and playing wouldn't even have a meaning behind it david france says he wants to reach any kids who have a hunger to express themselves through music one day a student from a different highschool nick allen wandered into the rehearsal from allen likes to wrap in france invited him to freestyle to be orchestra now ellen shows up the practice every week that he told me i'm gonna get out and get a right wing in everyday not play now mean right now how you know we've never had a guest on the odds like a guy that's what i mean there's no way i got no limit that last line i got no limit to what david france once these young musicians to take away from older practicing performing it sat through learning something of course violent or shallow they can get confidence became learn endurance resigning with the school administrators say that translates into better performance in the classroom for many of the kids the students have the summer off most of it anyway they're performing at educators conference in philadelphia next week student liana proteome who wants to play professionally applied to a summer music academy in minnesota david french is urging and she accepted there she performed her first ever responsible last no this summer france plans to indulge his passion for rural travel with little luggage but his violin on his back when he needs a little cash along the way to do some the netflix series when they see us looks at the case of the central park five five teenagers who were arrested and convicted of raping a woman in central park in new york in nineteen eighty nine the men had confessed to the crime after hours resume interrogation confessions were false and they were exonerated here's some audio of corey wise during interrogation he was sixteen at the time of day assault the oldest of the boys they audio the difficulty here he says the boys went to the park for trouble trouble in god blesses for for children got some elaborate so that's what they want and i guess that's what are we doing that's what i would have he may not do the teenagers lawyers say the confessions or co worst by police investigators those kinds of false confessions are at the heart of an initiative by the innocence project organization uses dna testing and reformed measures to exonerate those who've been wrongly convicted the project wants to require the police videotape are audiotape there interrogations about half the states require taping interrogations but not not ohio where bill has been introduced remedy that the bills democratic sponsor is representative thomas west of canton ohio speaking to us on skype end from new york rebecca brown of the innocence project welcome to you both thank thank you lisa thank you for having us representative west what would you build do it will require law enforcement agencies to record suspect interrogations for most serious crimes including felonious assault and sexual assault and murder suspect interrogations interrogations asians that can last for any amount of time for you said including murder and sexual assault charge or limited to those charges yes a including those are some of our most serious crimes we like to see that videotaped or audio taped a at and make it a mandate throughout the state of ohio so now some a currently there is being done in some ohio cities a but we would like to make it standardized all across the us is there a particular case you could point to representative west where you know that an interrogation resulted in someone being wrongly convicted the cause the session was not recorded all yes now while there's many cases in ohio which terror interrogation recordings according could have helped a notable case is a dell johnson a mr johnson was wrongly convicted of murder murdering his stepdaughter in her boyfriend and they had lack of physical evidence a an when he the interrogation there were problems and interrogation but had that been videotaped had that a situation been recorded then this probably would have been very significant in his outcome and he could've went free so that was a big issue and later he was exonerated you have a republican cosponsor a representative phil plummer how much support overall disability have including from police in ohio well let me say this first of all still a plumber who is say former former sheriff of ten years a come to a legislative with a lot of experience of course being interrogations a and so he jumped on board we have ohio chiefs association on board an we have public defenders association on board the given that there is a apparently a growing lack of trust in law enforcement 'em especially in the african american community will do kind of legislation simply add to that lack of trust well you know i think with this legislation at also ultimately increased transparency and accountability in are justice system which then will help in a help the matter with respect to people trusting of interrogation process rebecca do you see this as another tool similar to a police wearing body cameras yes it's quite analogous and you know i often a when we do advocacy around legislation like this argue that you know body worn cameras were used you know with great frequency you know all the way through the system and yet when people are at their most vulnerable in an interrogation room the tape turns off and so a this is the us very much a continuation of that trajectory that in fact it's very important to record interrogation termination procedures because it gives you a solid recor of what transpired and interrogation room and if there is a suspicion of someone who is unduly pressured 'em this this could presumably clear the police of the suspicion is well absolutely i mean i think there are a lot of benefits to law enforcement for a this kind of legislation you know it prevents as you mentioned false claims of officer misconduct it allows officers to better prepare for trial a it captures settled details at might have been lost the interrogation and not been reported which help law enforcement better investigate the crime given the federal law enforcement agents are already required to record interrogations 'em what what evidence do we have the does make a difference we've seen cases where a law enforcement unintentionally fed facts about the prime that only the truth perpetrator would know during the course of a long interrogation 'em and so certainly the presence of the videotape were audiotape helped uncover that i mean there were certainly other reforms that are necessary necessary in the area of a confession but i think that a recording interrogations is the single most important thing we can put in place for starters and rebecca brown of the innocence project representative thomas west of ohio nice to speak to you both thank you

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Jesus Christ she's bodice Addison baby at this point. You know what I mean lead. The woman allow also happy weaning episode. Yes you've got a nice nice big milk but of course like we are in New New York and New York is of course home to my absolute favorite Bravo show of all time the real housewives of New York. We don't we don't have any the real housewives of New York cast members here however what do one of our favorite people who came out of last season was windows realtor. Laurie Cooper and Laurie. Cooper Cooper is here somewhere there where is see Laurie. Laurie Laurie Laurie Party. He's back there. Take a look at that Laura Cooper you are a national treasure that are being every episode next season where obsessed obsessed with you. Thank you so much. How happy crap in giving everyone? I literally licked up how to become a realtor after I saw and I learned it was really hard. I'm not doing that so the hotel I'm staying at today so I got fancy because you know I'm cheap cheap. I'm a podcast so yes I wanted on it. What am I going to say everything you know you know so I got a hotel went the upgrade at the hotel and I got a little terrace? The hotel is twenty five square feet right so this is like I opened the door and I'd just like kind of role into it and then I just wait until the sun comes up and I roll back out of it so I got this little terrace and it was closed of course because sparking New York. So they're like the star at the terrorists is closed and I was like. How dare you so? I wasn't in total fucking mode yet so I called downstairs. Smells like the terrace close. And she's like what do you mean is closed. I said there's a sign. There's I didn't know there was a sign. I said it's etched in the glass. It's not like thing you tape on the door. Like the full on thing they cut and paste like a window person king. It's just like I am so sorry will move you into a terrorist room but it won't be ready for two days and I was like okay. 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It's it's like salt and chocolate works right but this was like a garlic and salt garlic and salt lake like this. This is such a New York cookie like fuck me. Yeah you'RE GONNA garlic. I like sand bed and light just watched YouTube. My mom experience is very different from yours. The other way left buck you kind of dake actually was very cool but thanks. I got to go to instagram. Graham you're feeling a little under the weather. Yesterday we got good instagram. And don't tell that to people. I just hugged fifty people back there. Dying of bird flu and I didn't tell off off off. It's been a fun time anyway. You went to instagram. It was very cool. Very actually. Don't have any story about it. I was just bragging I wanted to instagram anyway. Welcomes or watch crap in the PODCAST. All that crap on Bravo there would love to watch also let him Melissa. Melissa Cardi and Julie Roth I.. Bitches love your sister Jill Okay so here we go real housewives of orange. Can you guys. It's my dad. Even watch real housewives tonight so that's like a big. That's a big league. Thanks Dad surely did that or do you think he just lied and said I watched he. You Probably Watch an old episode of McLaughlin Group which is pretty much actually the same thing. Sometimes yeah I don't need your weaning party within thin. No delays on having babies every year of your adult life that's great contributing to the economy. Nothing wrong with the children. Put your breast milk away on my TV TV. So by the way Lauren Fender herself gave me a gather sign and I forgot to bring it out on stage. So I'm sorry what she has a Bronwyn. Look at that props already got all this stuff. She's got everything there. No it's okay. I don't feel like standing up. Sorry she's this is very friendly so the episode opens up with Pontiac. The Summers are Rose Canyon Cantina and grill and so she gets a table. Why not mention them and so so she gets a table and then Vicky comes in and she looks like she just had cataract surgery? She's looking Tamra. Hoover Tama Tama table for Tamra Tamera hostesses face like just looking for the table details. Debbie it's taboo job. I'd like if you're job. I'm searching for a friend of Davis. I'm not a friend that I will never be afraid I wouldn't be so. Did you guys see where Vicki he gave some interviews somewhere look. I'm good news reporter right like Maverick. Vicki said something to somebody that time see said that Bravo tricked her into becoming a friend of love. She's so silly okay. So she's she's so she's like I definitely do that. Profitably trick the trick me. And they're like well. How did they trick you? And she said what they said. You'll be in a reduced role. You'll be reduced role and I said I've got a friend of a friend of and they said Okay we won't call you that. And then the end of the paragraph is making thing and then they started calling me that so I can vicky so Tamra camera is in like full-on victim mode this episode and like Vicky comes to sit with like how you doing good like how's it going good and I don't know if I'm good so much much shit has happened today. It's not even funny. That's actually very very funny. It's hilarious. It's Hilarious and we can't complain about this this episode because this is where people really start to try and back dog on Tamra and God if Tamra isn't the fucking superhero of the world. It's like a superhero poces. Like like no one gets into the trash. Camp at Possum is on see wins. Like you've got a habit to Tamara's she's pretty good so so basically Tamil Emily Vicki's like speaking of things that are not that funny emily's coming right so there's been so Tamraz road has blocked Kellyanne social media. And she's like DELMONICO's she said. I said that she threw her mom. Data staircase and then it cuts. Let's to Tamra saying she threw down a staircase word for word at PAT at lunch. Kinda about having about me and not saying that found mother Denver Staff and is that person. Whoever it was video uh-huh Bravo? What a you always feel like swimming? You like heather down there with a little camera got it got it running and Ben and then there's then you you see cell phone footage. She's like you cell phone footage of Timbre saying they're not pass Tamra. This is the most guilty you've ever been in life so then she starts explaining that was set at the T.. One of those things was what do you want me back so instead of saying like I never. I think Kelly is a great person. I was just saying she was saying I didn't say that. She threw her Capelli through her mom down the stairs. She's just like thicky said that she she just passed the blame right along which is like classic Tamra and one day earlier. Where obviously they weren't allowed to film this restaurant because they had to that whole Tamara's setting tech about hip hop hip of backs so they sought it in front of the bathroom sign? It's like woman lady like whatever like this signed to go into the bathroom. There's just like shooting it and they're silly cheap costume few at sent as someone less tab our assets passing the pattern ever not for that I will right here. The bathroom by the way has Tamra ever looked more evil than she has with that. Like T- with with Shannon because they keep shining put her sitting there at the table. This like waiting like with a giant coffee cops over and over again. If I'm more times you'll say so then. Emily joins and but she grew hauge roles. I got a parking spot. She is that girl he always says that the everywhere. It's not a water burger commercial. Oh No it was. It was stripes on the thing for popcorn. I swear to you I see stripes and I'm like what a Burgers here Bridgewater Burger see. Do you see there at the popcorn. Does look very whataburger ask. I'm sorry. Let me take the next thing says mind eraser of sorry. I'm such a food addict. Addict was like what am I like. All My vegetarianism goes out. I'm like fuck account. Sorry but emily is that friend and he says up to everywhere good. Traffic was RAV room so long to get here in my. DVR was broken. Delayed Mu ten minutes and Vicky Vicky kind of friend who in L. A.. We would say the friend that moves to the valley like the Vanderbilt Pearls cast. Ask but here. It's like your friend who's like I moved to Williamsburg because it's cool. And by the way I was that friend Tom I I was like I moved to Williamsburg but it was like the edge of Williamsburg you got up on Bedford and then you have to go like two miles to an old pasta factory across from the C. Town. Aw Anyway Becky's friend because she's like well. We live in the country. Look at us. We live the country leaving the country. Just fucking far you made me come come to Williamsburg because that's like not the country that's just like there's like one less applebee's there. So they all order for his shares saving Adam. Sorry heaters down this Eh. Halfway down the stairs they order. Heat is because the sound of the heat is just like one hundred cameras coming like have I actually feel like I don't remember. I didn't take a note on this but I seem to remember that the last person to place for order did it like so sadly like they didn't WanNa get Feta. It probably was emily emily. Of course it was like I guess I'll go really wanted a burrito. You got me now. So Tamara's like Emma theft talking about how this monning Keller has confidence level not that psychotics southern we cut to Kelly breakfast. I can't get it in You're not that's not a call. Your mom she's calling her mom she's like blue by the way it's been like a year and a half of loved ones my mom and being a big hole right right. I'M GONNA call my mom and said she was like Oh over just getting right back to normal now. Am I love seeing her mom again. Hormones just say hey how yeah. Here's the screen of the phone. And then here's here's Bobby's heads. Hey cal excuse riding visible little seahorse behind Kelly. So they're like Egger united at last while they're having breakfast and Kelly was like of course like chroniclers and the waitresses like coming over serving coffee. Like ah going on dinner with emily and everybody and she said you better call your mom. Mom's going to die. It reminds me am. I just saw great new episode of NCIS. It was wonderful wonderful. I'm alive Scott Back you want. Well very alive her mom thing he and I are good. There's no problem I live in a rancher. Sure now now. I'm on a one story house. We're all so cal. His toys like. I'm sorry I was using my a real estate Linga. Laurie knows what that's about. That was for you Laurie coupon. So they're like no ranchers in New York City. Yeah I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing so his leg and Bobby camera needs to Shanta. Yeah That is defamation of character I where she thinks she's coming off seeing me things like that. Now why why. Why is it that when I touch Kelly's face it doesn't turn into a jolly rancher? Mom It's not candy crush Ninja slicing Kelly's face. Aw David I think it's time to go to commercial to commercial David. Um So Kelly Kellyanne forms ask goes. I don't my mom down the stairs you to work. I picked up and put her out the door which is probably down the stairs. Buchan Callie I picked her up and down stairs stare Eh. She's actually downstairs placed her there like this. It's not my fault is a staircase out the door. She's also acting like her mom is like dino in the flintstones like fucking Kelly House Kelly in jail and I love that like seriously now and I love how Kelly backtracks on every single drug the done drugs. Yes Mary Mack. So there at this restaurant called terrorists which is so cruel because then Shannon walks up and you know she's so triggered by just seeing toast. I guess we're just going to eat someplace where I can't eat anything. Oh she's already got her lips purse like well since they are apparently is only carbohydrates nitrates at this restaurant. I would just like some hot water and lemon. Please thank you hot water as representation of what I'm in because of Kelly Dada Data and lemon to remind me of these sour feeling in my mouth. 'cause David David David. This waitress is such a bit by the way the waitress. who must know what's going on? This season comes up and goes high. You WanNa join the bloody Mary Train. train train. Santa's like no. Thanks egg whites. I couldn't even. I couldn't even sleep. I just won't happen. I saw your picks will who Kelly. Oh Wow I mostly saw the text. There was a little hard to see because I do have some blurred vision from this. I from when you struck me with a heavy object and gave me a category four hurricane concussion just and I'm still suffering from that Tacconi now while I'm in the second act of awakenings because the ending is coming soon and spoiler alert. I'm back to you sad. Sad sad vegetables Shannon was hit on the head with the ball. Yes Yes well I like vegetables. It's part of my real for real coma. Diet Vegetable. I just like Kelly. I know that you've gone crazy onto twitter. Temer is insisting that she was defending Youtube Avenue Shannon goes. She's like well I was. I was up till three thirty in the morning when I saw your tax and then on the bottom screen stupid bitch listen okay. Well that might be in reference to her ubereats failed or maybe Tamra. I'm not sure well when you hear. The context of what's happening happened in the restaurant you wilco oops oops oops oops was. I was just repeating over eating again familiar. Just repeating repeating but it doesn't mean you have to repeat it. She said she said I feel like people are Bashing County But what she was saying. Is that like Vicky said you through someone down a staircase bashing I agree with her now like you can't you can't use logic with galley since it. Then Kelly just goes to her best defense. But she's the Colbert she's the Colbert of all. Everyone's running out to the parking. Lots of sexy if their cars are still there. Everyone's checking their pocket for that. Little buzzy thing that goes off on your tables so then we cut back to. She's like let's set now Adam. Thank you seth threat and Champollion. How about last year and she said Peres shedding things so Kelly? Are you saying Shitty. Thinks about Jimbo. Lena now look I think that's the bullshit lawsuit. Please don't shoot me. Jim Pollino important. I love trampolines. The think you're doing a great job over there. Yeah but you have Tamraz getting sued Tamra enchanted for those of you. Who Don't know are getting sued for sit? They talked walked at a Heather McDonald. podcast live Zim. Heard it and see their asses both their asses. Yes is horrifying mind cause like here we are high. Yeah but and basically what Kelly tweeted out was basically. She's like Julia was about ten. She doesn't listen and so she's sort of like taking Jimbo Lino side on twitter which is a very large side and basically she's Chin and so that does so. Which of course is the worst thing you can do for Tamra and really for Shannon? Because they're in this lawsuit so Tamra of course is in full full victims is like you don't know if there's money's and things and it's taking away money for my kid's college education. I'm so I'm so sorry. That Ryan was finally about to go back to school. I am and this happens. Sorry we blew elite through Ryan's hair fund western half a million dollars legal bills. Why hope you kept a receipt for your face? Don't you wish you could do that. This implants aren't really working for me anymore. Back thanks so Shannon Shannon's also annoyed by this because she's also dealing with this and and she's like you know what can you do something bad and I'm GonNa tell you so what you did today on the Instagram when I have a lawsuit with with David and I'm happy I'm happy. I'm happy because I have salmon with cream cheese in but what you did on the Instagram Kelli. Kelli what am I gonNA do. There's not defend myself but to do that. We are both in often lawsuits Kelly so Santa's like even though I want my case it's back an appeal. Also attorney fees attorney's fees for something on the beach attorney seats seat posts naked on Instagram sliders. Everywhere it is. It's very difficult to know where to place. Call toasts off sunshine. It's it's about the good times and then and then like Shannon always movements but then they really big. It's she starts doing like I mean I don't know like some aeroplanes about to land because she's like do you know that damage this. Do you know and she does like an Evita thing. You know like the movie Evita where you like doing this. I don't think you know the the damage this has caused Commie Sato like a third baseman. Just like slides and right in front of her. A plane land Overhead there's another damage. This is causing Kelly. Kelly is just pops up from the table. Forget cal CAL. Didn't realize there was a step outside my door but we're good Ed. So Kelly is live Shannon. WHO's intellect like winter? You will see which is like l.. Allow well these days right. I mean I love your children. But Yes aso's she's just like so she's talking about shafting challenge involved with us and then Kelly does something that I love when Kelly comes up with an insult on the spot but she hasn't quite figured it out and yet she starts to like improvised bitches. Like you know what I think. I think that I think the Timur Shannon problem. Patty hearst first the victim chair chair chair with Patty. Hearst's this is crazy. I keep rewinding because you know when you're watching housewives in your life and my the one was a captor Tamraz probably Patty hearst. His captor captor. Aw captain she was. She's she likes hamburger patties. Captain Patty Patty hers. Oh the camera like you're an idiot. She's like if you look on Stockholm Syndrome. The Dictionary Tamara's face is on there and then she just kind of look around and the camera just stays honor. It's like the camera or just go with that one. Did Kelly dodgers make Stockholm Syndrome. Like like what. So she's like well she shannon. She's telling everybody you're wrong and all you do is drink yourself to death and now I am being reconvened St- and to another opinion. I have no idea what to was what Kelly told me the other day which I totally believe to now there is. What Kelly's telling me now which I'm not sure if I believe camera told me not to leave my fingers are coming together? My thinkers are fighting with each other. Where if I think are just hit? My finger on behalf Shannon's Shannon believes Tamra big because she's as well. We've been through a lot and we've we've gotten to a place where we tell each other. The truth am I against Tamra is Tamra. You've been lied to a million times. Come to a place where I am more terrified of Tamra than the actual police camera. My half. So Kelly's like all right but I'll let you know I'm not going to stoop to her level. Kelly is doing something. She's got a Napkin in. What is she doing? Kelly's like going crazy with this Napkin. Space Work so then we come back to you. Ten sharp that got a lot. That was a really intense amount of metrics. I've been drug free for too long worse shopping. Nancy at the same time. So Tamara's like Kellyanne ed second Vicki's just back they're going yes double double. If you've been to shit okay. Give her a hall patched treat people like Shit like I went to Shit. I was dating a man who had cancer almost. Okay we've been through but you get a half past and emily's like well there's only one site you're allowed to be on. I'm married to Shane. Does everybody just feel bad for me. Can we disagree on Matt Identity and then in a precious gift and he's like I'm not giving your whole of your hall pass because it was not right what you did to Shane. And that's a we. Get a flashback of Shane going yet drunk. Look you're fucking you're at Busni to work. I'm so proud. My parents are here for this. We literally there is no classy episode to choose from so then we cut back. Kelly is still like dabbing yourself all over crazy with this napkin like staring going wild in her own mind and she's like I don't see my point of view but I'm sick of getting kicked out by these girls to remove myself. I'm here removing myself for the trainee. Guys I'm going Shannon's like well you actually were not part of the tracing migos but you know what the positive thing is. It brought me back to my mother. Shared sure did cow on because my mom hates him. Oh Way to fit your mom in a bad situation at the next Bravo Party. Yeah Shannon's just staring back Shannon. Adenjer does that thing where she sees like a bullet tortilla chips out of party. Do I do I do. It saved amy right now. I've got a mild concussion and I'm going down right now. Uh Oh Sam. Soon nextstep. America's sweethearts Ronin on winning Shaw. Even the car is used to her. Breastfeeding goes flash flood warning. Think about it. Why is this thing? Flash flood warning and my husband's like I still. I think we're in Florida fast forward festival. Ron What Bronwyn says Brahmins heads one of the worst things I've ever heard on on Broadway Broadway and Broadway away. At the rate we're going this could be true. Yeah she's meaning party. The new Broadway show jukebox musical all Barbara Mandrell songs. She says one of the worst things ever set on bravo she goes winning. Parties is something I invented. Aw Yeah I invented weaning. Parties poured it. Yeah Okay so then at a restaurant. Bronwyn I don't know if she has a lot of. Oh no they're reading talents. What's happening? I don't know I checked out at this. 'cause they they went to like a buck user. Something I don't think that's towels hilarious. There are what happened to me in my sister entering a gift shop like looking at all the funny towels. Like isn't that hilarious. I'm not going to buy it but I will take take a picture of that. Well those I mean so. Those towels were ridiculous. Okay so like one of them. They're like very wordy okay like I. I like my jokes I understand. My jokes take sentenced to get through. You know but like I know that my jokes don't belong on a tea towel you know and this one was like I pause screen and this is what one of the tea towels actually said this on a tea towel like a fund quip on a tea towel says it says. I'm having fruit salad for dinner. Yeah well it's mostly grapes. Actually okay. All grapes fermented grapes. I'm having wine for dinner. That's a lot of texts and it's also stolen from an e card. meam okay somewhere someone already trademarked. It's wine back but so the only joke I have. That'll fit onto a tea towel. I was just Katie. Katie's wedding I'm just GONNA put that on a tea towel and see how many you can only buy it on Wednesdays Wednesday weddings. So they're having. They're going to be having a winning party. 'CAUSE BRAHMINS had like forty five babies for the first time ever in her life. She is knocked me breastfeeding anymore weaning. So she's invented this whole weaning party thing and she wants people to come over to their apartment and bring like inappropriate gifts and I can only imagine what Dr Deb is. It's GonNa Cook up here. I got a job application inappropriate for you. I now so Why would Tamra West Hammer making me out to be a liar? I've been nothing but nice to Tamra. Well there's your first mistake. Yeah but then. I'd love that the clip that they so Tamera sit at one of that prominent drunk cat. It's like not even bailed at all. Yeah and Brahmins shocked that timber would even say that about Tamra. She will say anything about you to make sure that she keeps her position on the on the garbage. Can you know. Yeah so this is so emily. Okay so emily is driving in the car with gene. 'cause I wrote the same note and I know exactly what you're really doing it wasn't I but then I read the I read the scene and I was like this is such an. Emily seen. Emily striving with Geomancy Goes Masih the exhibit. Because of this car like nothing more. Emily what ever been perfect metaphor and she's like. I was telling insane about the winning party and he said Weenie party is it intersects bad No no no no no no no no no no no no no. Wow even from the king of snark chasm even from a distance how I was at a laundry when I was packing to come to New York and like the last t shirt I had was king of sarcasm. You know man people look at you. You like you're such an asshole when you wear that shirt and I was like it's fitting so genus wife. Never been to a winning party before unless you call me. We drinking by myself a whole bottle of wine after breastfeeding a wing body. Alcoholism delicious leashes. So she's Gina has really interesting things to say that she is. She starts talking about Dr Hobby. WHO's the guy she's sort of dating and she's like? I think. Seeing talked haughty has been the best thing for me while like looks like we're sort of like dating and going on actual dates you know like isn't it weird. I heard like when the person that you're on a leash would you actually see face to face. It's sort of cool. I like It's weird though because I went to sleep and I was like it's like three in the morning and he never really came into the house and invited so that was kind of not really sure if he likes me on then then she goes but I feel terrible. All because Matt's like so upset he likes wrong guy. I'm like he also cheated so cheated. Goja get a job. I was reading through the rest of the scene like Debating on what to say next and I was like you know what skip about that okay. Hey sorry I'm sorry your life as miserable your life as miserable to me to get. We're on the same page there or okay. So let's get a sexy adult wicked costumes at the wicked chamber. Also what you call a government building in Boston. Jane take this. This is just a continuation of that scene. So my favorite sound effect like something bad just happened happen. You know whenever there's drama but then it's just Sanan ironing on her bed. There's a wrinkle. Their sort of reminds me of my marriage. David Lincoln Time wrinkle in time. Rt like arches. Not Happy well. My divorce is coming up going to my first step position. And that's where attorney what guess. He's finally hired attorney. Woo Hoo for me. Working out great for me. Apparently I have made a lot more money than I ever did. Anything Sir I'm doing well I'm actually going to my first deposition ever and I'm a little nervous mainly because I've never been in a room with David where someone was asking me questions. So that's going to be it's going to be a new experience for a Hi Said and David's lawyer. Just eight cattle Chris some front of my face while thirty interested. What I'm going to try to answer the questions as best I can? I will have to explain to them. I do have a mild brain trauma. My brain is actually been split in half my left side of my right side around talking tweets other and I'm not even sure David is anymore so she calls her business manager and she's like I'm driving to court but I just get off their the two things are going to be okay. Could you please road stress eating combos you now. I love going all over face a food line. I don't want to have to rely on David. I'd I actually make up on this car. o God the ramp because David use drive up ramps. I can't go on ramp. Oh God it's like every time. I wonder if this is the ramp where he met that curl up the Rambo. Now it's the second floor up you know. I can't do second floor. Talk to the second floor. Prep what they have to go by showing up a ramp like I can't take the stairs either because I know what he was doing when he's already bearing tank upstairs. Okay now a very special surprise for you people besides this lovely thing of milk. We've actually got something to give away than I. Yeah yes you know our asses hate to clean. This is actually very very. This is amazing that we get to get this away. This is this is actually probably probably the coolest thing we've ever given out at any. Show anything ever podcasts. It is a room is seven robot. thing is amazing. It actually cleans my house. BUELLER CHANGES IT and tries to kill it and I'm like dealer it's actually useful. Buehler does nothing beulah drops. The hair shamed your I did I'm still wearing dealer. I haven't seen Bueller and like a week and a half and I'm still oh covered in fucking bueller. I need like an iron for my body. No it's very cool. I don't know what it is. It's sort of like it. Goes by itself like like maps out everything and you're in your in your house or man mapped out and empties itself into an Allergen. Lock bag okay. Now you want more information you can fits. I ROBOT DOT com slash cracks. Now under your seat there is a number. There's something taped to the bottom. Yeah there are some of your seat everyone we did not have this was like an elaborate prank just to like manipulate the audience. Fuck with you guys. Okay so you you might. I have an envelope this is this is tricky a bunch of people holding gum. So I feel like someone disagreement as did you open open up. Does it say anything. Was it say what does it say more and the more you don't Nick my God. Oh my God that she has a shirt. How did this amazing? It's you. Oh my God okay Herve we actually have it for. We're going to actually send it to you because it's like this big but you saw right my yeah. I wrote Nicky Morgan. Congratulations on your IRA. By Ruma. That is the coolest thing ever. I've wanted one ever Everson's Lucille. Blue Scott one awesome. Thank you I robot. Yeah thank you I robot okay cool so now Tamra is going to have her telling off Bronwyn scene which should be pretty good because Brahman like. I'm not taking any camera shed that I've learned how to stand up to girls else. So tamra orders. She's like I'll have said about it with lime before I sit here and call thank you thank you. So they're meeting MINNEAP some restaurant and so tim too high and like that like tourists cold. I'm you know I'm mad at you. Hello you know. And Tama goes. I don't know where to start honestly. I doubt which is like you did start at the hell started. Everything started everything so thank you called me a liar so we can start there. And she's like no no I wasn't I'm calling. You know I was going to talk about the fact that Ryan's creative writing class. I can't stand him anymore because they don't have the funds don't John have the funds Brown was like well. I didn't bring up the boyfriend. You're the one who brought up like no no no no. I'm not talking about that because I thought you were saying that I brought it up. Second no no no no now. That's why this camera. Just keep going when he. You know it's not gonNa work tonight me. They have to do some more mets before the next show. It's like a cold wind blowing through the trees so they're the fighting over. Who brought it out? Timur brought it up just in case you guys forgot so then Brahmins like yeah and then the next night dinner her. Kelly said that you said that you don't like me and I'm drunk and you don't like my outfit and then I guess hammers excuse. She has no. I said it was like an Asia drafts and it was really cute. That's all I thought. It was an Asian address address. I don't even. I don't even understand what they're talking about anymore. Hearing grown women fight like this. She said You said I'm a drunk. Anti don't make my dress. I said it was an Asian addressed. It was cute. She twists everything. The winds thing. If you have an issue I think you would come to me and Tammy goes and do you think I look like I wa. I was barely following this. I was writing notes like what what is happening here. Look my mind turned into all cap. It's always trying to ride. I believe I believe I believe Tamra bad. We tell I've lived bobbly term but legally really Kelly lab lab TAMLA. I'm glad we met because Tamra me bad bad patching. I'm doing journey party soon. They're basically having a fight like the SIMS. You remember makes sense as people in this five hush your heart about the Fisher Fisher. Butcha pooper boo. We'll Bush Bush Russia Shaba Salvo Suba like walking on Kaga Toilet. God what I knew my hours of come in handy twenty years later via reference it so yeah but what about my winning party okay. Gross so then cameras like. I think it's best to assassinate temper so if set it constantly I'm leaving and then the second. CPI Dot Kelly's not going to be there she's like yeah. Yeah I'll be there I'll that'd be there. Yeah so so now. Cameras looking at a huge audience. That people would you registered at Mackenzie childs for your winning Patty. They makeup because camera is satanic. Talk anybody into believing are brought him and just wants to be we liked. Yes and Kelly can't stick to any kind of script so it really is a perfect storm I would. I would really love to see Bronwyn face to face with likes and someone like Ramona's saying you know what I'm saying like. WHOA okay? Listen Okay what you're saying about. `Bout Me Very Asia dress right now. Don't like Asia dresses okay. I'm sorry I'm sorry but Asia dresses or day day. Classic winning you were there you went to the toilet then. Ramona takes your best attributes and uses them against you. Gross taught denic which go to a wedding party. Not My cab. Same Gabriela was here at the Gramercy Theatre Brewed speaking of Cabaret Tamas calling for strippers and eh pass and the guys like male entertainers or female entertainers no twenty nineteen gene. I want some twenty sixteen mother. Strippers over here. You got your entertainers. I don't like this nonspecific like male entertainer. No he could be singing or like the that. I don't know I don't want poetry. I WANNA fucking strip over stripper full on stripper yet. So we're seeing everyone doing different things. We see Kelly. She's like an in her apartment. She was wearing some crazy thing. It was like a placebo but there was also no sleeve. It was and it was also up to here at the same. It was like it looks like Juliana Juliana good like such weird seem to be dressed like gift wrapped Arnson noble and like accidentally ran out of the paper. So you can see part of the gift. Every teacher has seen this. Because you guys get so many Mike Barnes and noble gifts. And they're always like that Bo. That's too tight around the Coffee Cup. And says he yes he comes into. What am I gonNA put a Tampa sitting there right now but even tap on? Well I put it to me in both over China's Jolie from the other is like mom. Please stop talking about this on national television is it's a big day. You talk about it so then Tamarin Vicky are getting ready together and there's a there's a boob geic because it's a winning day. Yeah and Vicki looks at correct. This needs to get a job. Get a job cake get a job. Are we supposed to. What's going on? Vicki makes US shock disgusting discussing faces but nothing moves except like she's like and timbers like that fact accent just not really says the tax and she's like no. What does this go to that? Anyway Ed never been to a lactate party party because dating party from invented that to invented that too. It's like no Bronwen on Wednesday from the counselors semi toby you here. Here's where I heard. Seventy Toby Sibley WSL lactating party so they're like we're going to. We're going to a party. Hey let's face I'm Shannon before we go this party like how I I was speaking to forensic accountant like Mark Allen Burger of C. S. Y.. ACS why Markelle Burger with them. Magnifying glass looking at receipts or the the flashlight light. Like she always used to hold up Mark Allen Burger. She'll the flu shot up here. Like David Caruso is like we're going to need to see it hits sunglasses but I like how Mad Shannon is. But it's like her own fault she was like I just got back from forensic accountant and apparently I'm make more money than I thought whether time to become successful I if somebody had told me that it would hurt me in the long run. I wouldn't have done it. So she's she's afraid that Davis is GonNa get all the money or something like that. She's not anything so a good friend would say listen Shannon. Don't worry everything will be fine like this happens all the time I've been through it you'll be fine. I was just have fun tonight. But Tamara's head goes so there's a chance to lose every time I got secret rockaway. Nothing everything hi. She's already lost so much Sheila's mar well. There is case law just support that. There's a business created before marriage account and I would love to not rely on him at all but I am scared. I have a lower quality of life. Then where am I going to get the screen cheesy. And the temper their the case law KISLA. It's like someone case law to her and like the rest of the rest of the night. It's like I am afraid I can't go to key West because there's case law. Aw Case Lie Way and anything anything with your barbeque case. Ask US and then Tamra who was just complaining about being sued because at Seth's many ah Yes yes yes just money and vic with the transit biggest but after point out cameras telling ailing Vicky. She's like it's a winning party. Should just finish breastfeeding and VIC who cares. It's like having a puppy Eh. What are you talking about man? So she's also also like you and get you by the way you invite me to this party. I never heard from her. I never heard I wasn't even invited. It's it's you that I'm it's about by the Judge Kelley tonight. I'm like that's why you're not invited. 'CAUSE you're doing drug test. The People at parties and being directive for Kelly so then we go to your Bronwyn love sack the Strippers Bartenders Boob the Asia address. I'm like literally scrolling. Sex Swing swing wanted to have them at home but I figured they were better here so I dont sex swings. Oh God we are six weeks I have St Blah the imagine I have a jungle gym. Gentle Jeb Steve Lodge much like you ever see you ever go. You ever had that friend growing up. Who had technically had us like a tire swing but every time you go to like beyond the tire swing? It's like full of stagnant water her. I think that's the Steve Lodge sex. That is wow yeah well done thank you I felt like I was. I felt like I was really channeling. Settling your experience. You know that was really descriptive. That was really well done. I can pull it out sometimes into the picture it was it was like you're not so Tamara's like who cares so Bronwyn Yob. I still don't care okay. Kelly Kelly has a Kelly has arrived event at social with her friends and she's wearing wearing pants and a growing DJ. James Kennedy on the Pont's now we're gi. WIKI wiki Kelly. I love living here so much better than being born with Tom Yum. So so emily and Gina Arrive at the Party which means the party is just beginning and I forget which one of them said it. But they're like I'm just GONNA assume it was emily who said if you shot the genus Dino. Well of course see I need like online Gena like I need like a gap. A sign on my notes gathered that Gina Yeah like if you turn the blue light on. There's probably semen everywhere I was like. Oh this is a winning party was bad. I don't need it to be like a winning and invisible seaman born they do. That's next season for Brodmann. Black Light Zemun Party so gross. I'm so sorry Mandal sats out. Sorry my sister was like Ronnie because I told her if you WANNA watch episode. Here's a link to it. Just download it and watch the plane and see watched a preview. And she's like. Why would you tell me to watch us on the plane with my children and my career and let me remind my dad did watch? This episode serves thanks dedication. It's the best way to get adaptive. Watch it it's like dad there strippers. They're scripted just hold on. Just hold out there. It could be really educational so then genus. They wait a minute whereas Kelly she's not comment and timbers like wait a minute what he puts WanNa leave me so so you so upset that she's not coming and Tamraz like well. Yeah and that's what they had. Ed Asner Bax. No but she's like the little girl from hope floats. He just thinks her dad's gonNA come back. She just keeps looking looking at the door like nobody. I know. I'm sorry I'm sorry I I no longer have the biggest of and I yes gather love. Hope floats whatever happened to that. Little Girl Earl. She became Gina. How the boxes hope floats So they're back at Kelly's this Kelly's new France because Kelly's basically recast the show. Now she's like you WanNa be just me old ladies recast with five younger ladies to fight with every three episodes episode you as a new group of friends you know and they all have little chirons. Yes Oh what did happen with you. and Ah she said I did train and then through my mom down the stairs. Pump the brakes becky. I generally took first step by step by step down the stairs with the back of my own do do I go off the handle yes. Have I tried drugs before. Before did I pick up my mother in place her somewhere else possibly down some stairs. Are you a Dork you you but my brothers puts these things out there. It's my brothers fall. My brother was telling stories. How much does radar remind pay for a Bam store? They weren't even change. Are there like a main headline John's things and I like that. Just everyone does rumor on face value. Like Oh did you hear Kelly Dov live through her mother down a staircase. Oh okay like shouldn't ever been like that. I don't think that happens. Yeah strict attempted homicide. Like I think there's like a sliding scale of Kelly crime so you know what I mean. Okay Ma'am so your daughter down. The stairs was really mean in about it or does she say excuse me. It's like Kelly butte out. It happened the Waste Management Open. I love that Phoenix. Has I love that for Phoenix. They have a waste management. Open you okay. So Bronwyn Shannon how. I was going to say well. I'm getting divorced Bronwyn. Thanks for asking. Thanks a lot thanks a lot. I'm so glad to be here at this party. That is indirectly celebrating eighteen years happy marriage. Here's case law. Supporting me. Possibly getting nothing the chance. Well you know. The trial is starting on Monday and unions like going to trial. So what does that even mean. It's like no no trial mean. They're a box that you can get that just as trial I think Bronwyn has the right answer. She's like fuck that guy. I raised seven children. If my husband did that's me I would get everything. Fuck this half. I will take it all so yeah yeah so. Salmon is upset now because because they believe it the job somewhere. You know what I'm saying so problem when it's like look. I know there have been issues and Vicki I I know I know the crap out of you. Let's go to Miami for girls and Olive Bronwyn real friends just like sitting there like bitch. We're your actual friends. So I are going to Miami. But then they're going to go to key West which I'm sure it's just a total accident on the part of production. Everyone got a chalkboard that says key west on it. Shannon chalkboard says like eleven percent you know. She's like Matt Penny. So last has so of course. Shannon is like the first person in the history All housewives that when the Castro has announced. She's the first person to be like. Well I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to enjoy myself. They are because I'm forty five. Percents sure that David talked to a lady wants in Key West so my friend I will not be able to go more south than Daytona Beach. I'm sorry I prefer Jupiter. I would support David. Well you know when this began David and went to a retreat and flak he ended up with it also had a retreat. And I remember calling him while I was trying to perfect keen Wa and I said what are you doing out at eleven pm. Why John Okay when you're not at home and how you have to go to bed but when you're away you have a great time? What does that mean David? David like. Yeah how about that. I believe that is forty eight percent the night that he started the affair or shore. More so I will not be going key west and I also have some objections to the everglades because David did say he would be married to me forever or and so. I think we're just GONNA maybe we'll stay away from south beach because our marriage did go quite south so and I will go to Tampa because I do approve of Kelly showing her daughter how to put an tampons and I am. I am actually. I'm actually very open to Tallahassee Z.. Because it reminds me of the word Hussy so that's nice place to okay. You want to have a pair. Yes David Tallahassee going going to not go to Gainesville because I I worked capital capital gains but I think someone in the Hopkins may have taken it in a different direction or Gainesville like can we just win one. She was just like I'm not go to Gainesville. Just because I truly just have no interest in Gainesville for Gainesville so knock knock fucking Orange County me is that the strippers are so bored. He's like knock knock police. Someone has been a very bad girl. stripper as. I know I'm just here looking for fucking Kelly dot again. Can someone tell her to calm down these lists. I only only have forty five minutes before I go back to work carmax. So let's just do this okay harbor but I'm just an entertainer so as long as you guys like to hear I can play with myself. Anybody WanNa see that so it's like strippers over there. Went Blue Buono No extra time. So it's like fun and silly emily's like like basically using that paddle over there air to like hit a stripper's ass and shot and Shannon hates Shannon. Hates Emily so much. She's always ready to like get the conversation going. We get split now. Look at Emily with that guy and she calls herself a married woman. Now anyone looking at emily a married woman slapping shippers but meanwhile mile I tried I tried. Meanwhile Sanan tells one of the one of the entertainer. She's if you've got to bury I'll pick them like what the hell. Yes I've read. I'll pick them. Yes and then Vicky is like acting got hair on their face. Because she's got that Steve Lodge is at home and now she's like a non. Do people not remember Vicky at fuck in with the Mexican holiday delays on delays Vicky. This is like only the second season you haven't been like double fisting busboys at on delays. Can we stop acting like your mother. Theresa Listen I would run home to Steve Lodge sex wing waiting for me. I'll oh so Vicki's here we go get a bite and then we show. We see the scenes that Mexico trip was dirty already. I was it was great stripper. Went down on somebody on TV. Yeah I will tell you who but I stopped looking. Yeah so Shannon Shannon's like an Har. It's the first time she's ever seen stripper so she's sitting there on the couch region. Bronwyn getting a striptease for my female. Strippers oh well well. She's having a strip tease from a gourmet. Let me tell you that comes near me. I'll kick him I'll and then the girl does come up and she's like grinding. Someone like okay thank you thank you very much okay. There's an ass I'm sure okay okay. It's short they would've liked that quite a bit. Okay Hey okay okay thank you thank you thank you thank you Jesus so this this is where my spell check goes wild again. It says Fraunhofer Tabuk Ache but does that. Maybe it was. Aw cut in the chair everybody Shannon well can come to Miami but no key West as I. I believe that is where my fair started. Case Law case law and by the way so like and then you have have like like we haven't talked about just the general sadness of this party four PM. Everyone's just sort of sitting there on the side like this. It's like when you you like are in high school and you go over to your friend's House watch like TV in the basement all You know and then Bronwyn bomb. It was like having the best time. And everyone's just like sitting there watching are there any MARCI does left now this ad so emily is not the supportive friend. That what you want. When you're like that the affair might have possibly forty eight percents started? We'll maybe that's where you get over is you just let go of everything. I'm sorry. What is this concept of getting over something? I'm not I'm I'm not familiar with that. It's it's new. New Salmon is not the standard does not want channel market over at Emily back off. How about you start? Start working on your current divorce and leave her alone. I have never rooted for a divorce harder. Now that's not true Kerry from Dallas. I'm really I've seen listen to that. QUARTER AUDIENCE BOO That was delicious juice so emily really pushing like no. You can conquer like you'll be able to conquer your feelings and no no no person soon soon to be kicked off this show. That is not true because I don't WanNa be okay settled down. Whoever screaming? Someone's like forthing vows. I want is like someone thing. They came to town meeting. Bulldoze the school like it's okay. The school is okay. Everyone so so basically so emily's leg or we'll conquer and everything and Shannon actually think there's some legitimacy of being like I it's just it's not that I am I have conquered it. I have I just I don't want to look at a mailbox and say wow. They were probably walked my mailbox when they were backing each other genus. Like yeah no I totally really get it because when I learned that Matt was having an affair I was actually my closets it and now I can't go into my closet anymore. I remember crying at the kitchen and every time I went in there and saw that kitchen signed cry so I moved the kitchen to the bathroom. aathroom it's gotten very confusing at my house. They'll take them every. Please worry member a trauma. I put up a sign. That says crying the BRAHMINS. Like well don't worry you have girl gang you have girl gang and a chance like get away from me. They don't worry you have girl gang. Any one of us here would bury a body for you and emily goes Not Me not do the Kelley Berry body for the girl gang like the moment. Someone does something wrong. There's a dead body over there so Now Shannon's going to your lawyer. Just got a big binder. I don't even think I think it's like the Bandra pump binder nothing in this business. I I am crumpled up paper. Ronnie wiped all over his face for no reason. I have a lot of I have a lot of case. MLK S- Milk from us. I just went to. So that's some evidence thing case law and the Oh above my head. I'm very businesslike with this binder. Oh God it's my frozen goes into trapper keeper. Okay all right yes. Sometimes I feel like Bravo's having a New York Fuck you moment. Mike have funding your life. Show the last scene will be Shannon. Bannon crying at her lawyer's office buck you but the good news is don't worry there because next week stuff was really funny so we have that to save us. Did you write write it down. I did write it down. I wrote my last note is entitled to nothing. I mean we could also adjust and on entitled and that brings us to the end real outside the thank you guys so much for another amazing using New York show. Hopefully we'll see a bunch you. At the next one are grapples giving late.

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Best Of (LeBron an owner?, OKC Thunder, Odell/Giants, Colin Kaepernick)

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Best Of (LeBron an owner?, OKC Thunder, Odell/Giants, Colin Kaepernick)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip, Shannon. Let's go. Lebron is basically done everything you can do in the NBA, including winning MVP awards and three championships. But according to the ethnic he has his sights on one more thing owning a team. Lebron was asked about it recently and said, quote, ain't no maybe about it. I'm going to do that bleep. Lebron would become only the second former NBA player to own a team joining Michael Jordan robbery think LeBron be good at running a team in the ownership role. Lebron has done a lot of things off the court and had a lot of success. I'm not so sure sometimes when you're like a great player, I think everybody automatically assumed you're going to be able to master. The business that you played in. So I'm not positive because you can look at Michael Jordan. Who was a great player? But was he a great evaluator of talent? When he was GM before he even had ownership, and when he was in Washington. So no, I don't think LeBron. Lebron right now is the worst GM in the NBA because if you go back to Cleveland, you'll look. Coupla? Greg look at Shearson tops and JR Smith someone else bad deals that he worked to Cleveland people into. So I'm not convinced lebrons going to beat this. Great owner. I think if he may be get some help because think about this. There's only been four I think it's four Chris former players will wanna championship as a player and as an executive in GM role in NBA history. So it's very hard. It doesn't happen that often. So I'm not so sure that LeBron will be able to even be better than Michael in the situation of being an owner, and maybe winning a championship. Not surprising. He said if I mean, we've known for years that he wants eventually own NBA team and easy said in the past maybe an NFL team as well. I actually think there's just pure speculation. Not from any by telling me, I think there may be a wink wink deal between him and Dan Gilbert. The owner of the Cavaliers when they talked and LeBron agreed to go back to Cleveland. And I really think the Cavs are probably the number one team that I'd rank as far as chances of him owning them as far as whether you'd be good. First of all, I think it'd be great because he's an African America, we need more minority racial minorities. Owning teams we got Michael Jordan in the NBA. I know they always get high ranks for diversity and all that. But as you go up in the front offices is not as diverse as it should be the way it used to be used to be more diverse as worst war. It's gotten worse with the analytics and people focusing on that and using as an excuse not to hire ex players and stuff. So I think that would be great it shouldn't just take a minority owner, so hire more my Noritake who are qualified. However, having another one, I think would be great look LeBron's businesses. He LeBron is obviously a smart guy. But he doesn't know about all. These different businesses has going on. But he's hires the right people to run them and they're doing well. So I think there you can say he would do that. But obviously is a basketball guy. So he may want to be a meddling owner. And I do tend to agree rob as we know he knows the game. We know he's one of the smartest players we've seen. But I don't think he's been the best at trying to put together teams or I mean, he he did have a say in. Let's go get some defenders and some grinders and some playmakers, and you know, we can't out shoot Golden State. So it's not really worry about that. You know, what if people run away go get shows to report shooters it, right? The first thing people's, but look is that wrong would be in a meddling owner. That's the benefit of being an owner Mark Cuban's Medellin owner Jerry Jones of meddling odor. So if at worst if he's one of those guys that's really into it. And either the face of the franchise there's no problem with that. I definitely think he would be successful. I think is great. I love. He came out and said, absolutely. There's no question. It's not even the question. And I don't think anyone doubted that this was even the something that it was on his radar with everything else that he's doing. But we talk about him configuring teams the teams that he configured it's because he's owned the team like this wouldn't be him being on the team. So the personnel would look different. You talk about the Tristan Thompson deals and all that Jay that deals. Did he go to the to the table and say this is what he wants? Laos on. Chris you noted wanted them sign wanted to sign one of them signed that he make their numbers up in the year. Con did he draw their contracts? You're trying to say under say did he no he didn't think he went to ownership, and it was like, no they understood there. They had the same agent as the break you, and I don't think he set out another same with the numbers, Greg. But but some rally little about it look at some of the team when they made the trade last year. Oh, lebrons. We stock and energize. He got all the players want. When they brought into Wayne way to come in last year for Miami mellow nine wanted once mental Dwayne which was what we understand who this would be him being removed from playing and then making personnel decisions or meddling as you put it. I think he would be good at that. And stop we immediately. The first thing you do would compare them to Michael Jordan. Well, only car saying. You do because gray players oftentimes like trying to be coaches. They don't seem that they can they can be a great coach. After being a great player. Very few. I'm not saying it's never happened. But very few great players, makeweight coaches and the same thing you can look at Michael Jordan and say, wait a minute. Didn't you draft Kwame Brown someone draft choices? This is Michael who's the shooter Adam Morrison more he draft an atom more always going to be the next Larry Bird. These are the goose and bad picks that Michael Jordan, one of the greatest players just because you're great doesn't mean I can identify somebody who's great. I understand all all them today understand all of that. But those were Michael Jordan decisions. Those were his aim for looking at what LeBron has done to this point. I'm saying what you mean? You mean, the three titles that he's been able to win the sixth that he's law in even there nine times, I will say this, and I pointed out some of his. Bad decisions. He had a hand in putting together that Miami team to that one to champions laws is sit down and put an and he went out and got these veteran shooters around them. So they want to championships should they want? He said they were going. Hey, not to three. Not six your that. You do you. Remember them moment. I do and they want to auto four, and they will one lucky of Ray Allen three away from being what in three and a one year. They want us automatic the problem because he is LeBron James and because hundreds territory, it comes with the territory, and our expectation immediately goes completely up if this were. Some random player that was on the bench that didn't get a lot of time. And and he was able to move up the ran on the team, we wouldn't even be putting this pressure on disingenuous from this from this point, Lou Brandon take that Mike and go not to not do enough for because he didn't believe it. He believed what he put together that super team that nobody would be able to beat them with that. There's no doubt about. So when you do that. And you ways the expectations three guys all young all in their primes all coming together. Former team there's no way to people and think that they have owning a team. All owning the team. He's not that dumb to believe that. Oh, if I own a team, we're not gonna ever lose put together roster that we're going to be in the finals every year, we're going to be competing competitive every single year is he's going to have growing pains. Like everyone else until he gets it right and put pieces in place that can make those decisions. To where the personnel is what's needed ineffective? He would be better than many of the owners in the NBA and NFL right away. Because there's a lot of bad owners out there. The interesting thing would be to me does his mentality. How does it change if at all because right now, he's very pro player? He's vice president of the players association. He's all about player movement and players having just as much power in their destiny, as you know, the the owners in the GM's and all that and getting as much money as you can when you become an owner. This is capitalism that is a whole different thing would your mentality shift more because now you see the other side of as an owner. So if he had a player like himself who wants to get involved and do all these things would he be with that? And it would be really interesting other bad part. He can't get anybody to come play with them. Now. So imagine once he owns a team you won't be able to get anybody to come play forest. Rob. Cricket. If I'm LeBron I'm gonna retire go by vineyard put in a basketball war on any it's stress. It's more work. He's made enough money. He's got a beautiful family like living up my days on the vineyard sipping some while. She put up some shots when I feel like it. No, you can you can be that type of owner actually that might be better. How to write able and go Choo? He's not going to be type and watch the rings accumulate. That you are isn't just about one super sized football game on Spotify. There's thousands of free sports podcasts. That agonize over the pre-seasons off seasons and plain old regular seasons of nearly every sport, imaginable, basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, curling, and even hurling. Yeah. That's a real sport. Look it up. Now. It's so easy to stay updated with the latest trade. Rumors predictions and scorching hot takes from some of your favorite games. Biggest names so take it one episode at a time and give one hundred ten percent of your tension to the thousands of free sports podcasts on Spotify. Because the best offense is a good podcast. The thunder lost last night to the pelicans. But that doesn't take away that they're still red hot heading into the all star break. Russell Westbrook caddies eleventh straight game with a triple double. And most believe he's not even the MVP of his own team. As Paul George has been on an even bigger tear. Okay. See is one eleven out of their last thirteen games there. The third seed in the west four games behind the warriors. So we are joined now in the studio by Jason McIntyre. Good to be back with Jason. It's good to having here. Who do you think that the warriors should fear in the Western Conference? I I think the thunder of the popular answer. Right. Everybody remembers what they last saw Crispus Sards now loving Paul George for the MVP. Russell westbrook. Triple doubles. It's got to be the thunder. No, jamie. I'm gonna go with the team currently not in the playoffs. But with a superstar who's been there a couple times his name is LeBron James. And I believe right now. The Lakers are the biggest threat to the warriors. It's easy to say. Nobody's touching the warriors. But the Lakers, Jamie. I keep coming back to this. Okay. Christmas night. Fully healthy Rondo Lonzo, LeBron smoke the warriors by belief twenty six points. Speaking of smoking. I. No, no smoking this morning one regular season. Hey, listen, who knows the Golden State Warriors best in the west? There's one guy. Lebron James he's faced them in the finals. Multiple. Tommy John's took down the seventy three win warriors. Rob you may recall that if this team is healthy Jamie come the play offs lonzo's back. Remember, Reggie Bullock is starting for them. He's living out of a suitcase. He just got traded to the Lakers. I believe with what twenty five gains leading into the playoffs. I think the Lakers will be healthy. And ready to be the only team that could possibly take down the words. It's a long shot. But I think the warriors should fear. The lakers. This is not visual fear of any gradient head west gotta be the Lakers. Lebron James this is this is your fantasy or for this is where you become the fan that you are. And something that you wish you would see, but it's not based on anything. It can't be based on a Christmas day game. A granted they played well, and they won that Gail. We're talking about. Four out of seven and talking about LeBron James were better players in the last two finals only won one game against the warriors. And now they have boogie cousins. Would you add into that? So I just this whole notion. I like, okay, see better. And granted I expect the Golden State to win again because they have all the ammo. But I would look at Paul Georgia's haven't his greatest season. I mean, he decided to stay. It's worked out. Everybody said that Russell was work. Well, ran Kevin Durant off and what he's also adapted to to make Georgia Paul George feel better and and fit in better. So I like them. I also liked the way that they've played they're seventeen thirteen on the road all of all the boxes against teams over five hundred fifteen and ten to twenty one and fifteen against the west when I look at the opponents, not just much ING on bad teams and piling up wins beating. A good teams. And then when you look in the west to just don't believe in Houston. Because of what harden has to do Chris Paul where he is in the injuries. I don't think they're going to be able to beat at team they were year ago and Denver for all the good that they've done this year. I just there's not enough body of work for me to believe that they're going to make that run atom. So I would go for okay? See for those reasons for me. I got the rockets you wrong. It's yeah. I do. You laugh. What would what would the rockets up on the warriors last year in the playoff up three two and any game seven they were leading by ten at halftime at home. And then they joked they have experienced with with the warriors. They are seven and five against the war is in the last two years including the playoffs in and we have to keep in mind. Chris Paul got injured in those playoff. Now. They have different team no reason anymore in impacts them. But they have acquired a Iman Shumpert who fits well with what they're trying to get done PJ Tucker guys who can shoot heir, Gordon, you gotta have firepower with when you're going up against the warriors. You have to be able to go blow for blow in when I look at their their roster and how it's configured they can go blow for blow. We all know what James harden his capable of doing? We all know, Chris, Paul. These guys are guys who haven't won who still have that hunger in that design at birth. It's to win. And they understand we they believe that we can beat this team. 'cause we were close doing it last year. We didn't get it done. But we can get this team because we can go blow for blow. They you talk about good wins. The rockets beat the warriors this year without Quinn cappella without Chris Paul in the Lakers. They had one great win against the warriors into four-game winning series. Like you have to win four times can the Lakers do that for times. I don't think they can I I don't think anybody can. But I think the Lakers much better suited than the rockets. Bussard at your turn come on. I haven't heard. Who one? The over furious. James harden? Are you waiting for him to choke again in the play? No, I'm not waiting show spent I'm not waiting just six hundred times so much more. Always he has more than he has more help. None of these guys in my opinion. Fear the warriors because they feel like we I match up. Great against these read. You're right. Yeah. I do I do. And so when I look at this and how you have to be able to match up with the wars. You gotta be able to go blow for blow the rockets had they tailed off from on the defensive side. Yes, they have. But can they clampdown clink Kabila gives back? I believe they we got underway gun used to make some good points. I mean like you said they had him beat last year. Those guys are hungry. The problems I have with using our the defensively last year. They were six best defense in the league this year. They're really low Chris Paul. I just can't can't count on him being healthy. He may not be healthy at the start of the playoffs. And to be honest since he's gotten back. They fall. Fallen off a little bit. I think part of that's because they have a challenge now in that. Are we going to keep playing this completely James harden Centric offense or start working C P three in? And I think there's this whole since there was so successful winning doing. So why would you go away? Now, they're losing. I know we'll see but in hard and might be fatigued. And and not to mention the struggles had in the playoffs two year. I looked at Oklahoma City. I like what they have. But I look at them too. And I look at their two stars. And both of them have had major struggles at the clutch moments. I mean last year game six against Utah deciding game Paul George goes to for sixteen. I know he's playing much better this year, but still five points was I play playoff three shots at night. Well, not only that in the last two games. Five at sixty took a total of eighty two. And then you go back. Go back to twenty sixteen in the last three games that they lost to Golden State Westbrook shot thirty seven percent. So both Paul and Russell have got approve it, the only one, and I'm not saying I have a great shot. I'm just saying the only one that knows he can be or has beaten Golden State is LeBron. James now, if they get the AC, which is most likely they go out and four quick game. Five would probably be a miracle. But that'd be the max. But just because if they get to the playoffs they're probably playing fairly. Well, they wanna switch everything. And if they're healthy they've got personnel that can do that if they're healthy. And they got some tough physical guys that can try to get defensive with the warriors and stuff like that. I'm not saying they would have a chance to beat him. I'm just saying none of these seems like against the warriors. But the fact that LeBron is a proven playoff player and okay see Houston their stars on lately. As far as if I had to a gun to my head. If I'd the pick one team to that would be Golden State. I I go back to it would be the Lakers and warriors in the first round. The Lakers would get swept you probably. I think that like, okay. So Houston takes them six. I mean, nobody can be. If you ask me what team I like better against the warriors. I'm gonna say to like let me go to this. This is what I don't understand though, you're saying you like the Lakers better. But if they face them in the first run sweat. They could beat them. No you. What you sense, Chris? You don't think they'll even think Houston beetle? The question who can no zero here. Fear. I'm going stay shouldn't fear. Lebron and LeBron. They can they see on the they have the fire. I'm not saying, okay. See, but Houston has the firepower to Tatum right now too. Bring. The legs. Don't look like right now right now, that's the thing. Would you say right now we're projecting. One man show. That's a one man show last year. At least they were to Manso. So on his West Point, you guys to remember the Westbrook Durant party was ugly. Every time they play Westbrook's pointing chirping Durant. It's not totally personal. But in a playoff series, Westbrook's going to try to get his and that's where it recalls a little. Because. Join. Still got dumped by her boyfriend. Still scorned angry. He's mad at Kevin Durant. How much experience does a coups having the playoffs. None never one Spears's. Lonzo ball having to play LeBron on their entire team combines they'll be ready to go down to hold on playoff. Rondo. Layoff laying them so Monday. And I'm van Rondos going to be playing a lot. Understood L Madonna to the difference. He may with New Orleans last year. Of course, Ondo be with Anthony day. Don't. No, he doubted the New England Patriots throughout world season. Patriots made you look bad. Don't do it again image. What do you mean? Don't fall for the same trap with LeBron. The Lakers don't count him out. Okay. Rob don't do it. You count it out. The patriots. You got your Email then? The not. Back to the NBA. Paul George scored twenty eight points in last night's loss to the pelicans. But he is still having a career year. George is second in the league with nearly twenty nine points a game and oddsmakers have him trailing. Only James harden and the Greek freak in the MVP race. Russell Westbrook endorsed his teammates saying this week quote. He's definitely the front runner for my MVP. All right. Are you buying Paul George as the MVP great? I am. I love everything that Paul George is done even from from the standpoint of him deciding to go back to okay, see is started for me right in there that let me know he was going to have to shift his way of thinking in his positioning on that team. In Russell, Westbrook has complied. He has fallen back. It took them a little bit to do it. But he's fallen back and taking the back too. Paul George specifically on offense of in in Paul George has thrived. He's thrive. Not only because Russell Westbrook is allowed him to. But he's more aggressive. He is he's back to that Paul George that we were all talking about when he was with the Pacers. And he was up up and coming and he was challenging LeBron James as being arguably one of the better guys in the east to dethrone him. I like what Paul George's from wins in law standpoint, they won forty eight games last year. They finished fourth in the Western Conference. This. They're already third in the Western Conference. They already one thirty seven games. I think they can get up to fifty wins this year if they can get to that first place spot in the west no-change. I you know, I said if they can get if they can get to that first place. It'll be hard not to say Paul George is the VP of the NBA. Look, I'll give you that. If okay see overtakes Golden State in. He may very well win. It look if the Lakers get the number ones the LeBron. If bigger that one is colossal what you said about Paul, George is right. He is tremendous ease better than he was in Indiana as good as he was remember he was battling LeBron James and knows playoff series when the Brown was in Miami. So he was great then, but he is taking it up another level. I have in third right now and his story. I am an official voter historically. On. We'll just because you know. I've okay. Do I just found in opinion? But. It it typically when you are when you don't have another star or superstar with you that helps you and what could hurt Paul George compared to Jaanus. Or James harden is that Chris Paul's definitely a star. He's been out so much that harden is essentially viewed as doing it by himself Jaanus doing it by myself, even though Chris Nuttal to made the all star team in part because their record. So he's a really good player. But he's not viewed as a perennial all-star anything second round pick who's right, right? So that will help because look historically LeBron benefited from that when he was in Cleveland early on by himself Derrick rose benefited from that where he won the MVP. A lotta guys have Westbrook. When you wanna tripled other double another thing with so Paul, George? I got him third James harden who up until maybe a week or two ago. I had number one. They have come back to earth. He during that early. In his thirty point game streak, which is to thirty one. Which is incredible. He was they were winning in a high clip at one point. I think maybe sixteen and five fifteen and six something like that. They've now won eleven of their last twenty so dairy Levin and nine now, they're the fifth seed in the west they're on a forty seven wind pace since nineteen eighty two only one player has won the MVP award without winning fifty games. And that was Russell Westbrook who averaged a triple double. And that's only reason he got it was because he did something historic. Now harden is doing something historic. But it's not like he breaking wilt chamberlain's record. Right. So I don't think that he's going to get that not unless they go on another winning streak. That's what they have to do. So right now right now don't hold me to this. Because there's a lot of basketball left to be played. But right now, I would say Janas who I had earlier in the year. He's averaging twenty seven and thirteen board, six assists. They got the best record in the league. Best road record in the league. League. He's a top defenders fifteenth in the league in defensive real plus minus which gives him a huge boost over hard news. Not a good defender. So right now, we'll go with Johnson in Milwaukee goal. Good points, both guys, and I love Paul George Alah and what he's doing. And just imagine if magic and them would of in and gotten Paul George to come to Los Angeles. What he would be doing. And where they would be that. Ultimately, always say, Chris that's going to be the reason that LeBron didn't win a championship in Los an-. That's a great point. Because that would also have been able to keep young core of and not have to. What they will county on. But that's much better than Tom Brady take. But then that's not that's really really when you look back at it. But I'm gonna go with hard only from this temple this season was on the brink. And I know that they've cooled off a little bit. But their season was on the brink. And they were like people were looking going. They're not gonna make the playoffs. This is how bad the rockets word. It was so bad and the injuries and Chris Paul and cappella, and they went on that twenty twenty one and nine during that thirty game streak, and I know what is thirty one now. But they went on a streak. Yes. Does he need another streak to finish off and finish up strong? And if he can do that, and they position themselves in a top four, then I will look at it and go this guy, basically did it. And now, Chris Paul may be gets healthier and can add more Cappello is healthier and adds more. And now they're rubbing as a closer to the end of the season. And ready. To make that move. But without horn without what he was able to do they wouldn't even be in position to even do that. That's how strong he was what he was a one man band and every team every night new. They only have hard, and he still beat people. That's what lead state. You know what I mean? Right. You remember that comeback winter? That was unbelievable that night. They they we're going to get berry, and they came back and James harden was here. Chris's point what he's saying about James harden? Their record is starting to slow. I'm saying he has to have a strong finish. And if to able to have that and he's a big part of that. He will he's he's going to be the main part right now. It's not you don't have him. No, no. He's slipping a little bit. But right now who out James Hodge still right now what is slipping I'm not going to act like not because his play. But just put the team winning. Chris Bosh was here this week. And he was saying he was on. He said Yang type breaker. I think he just wanted to change something I think. To talk about the heat is. Hey, guys, Jenny Taft here. With a quick word about Robin Hood, Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ATF's options and cryptos all commission free. 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Foxsports insider Jake laser predicted this week that Odell Beckham junior would get traded this off season. But according to s and why that would be a mistake. Route on says the giants would be much worse if they trade Beckham calling OB J not only a top five receiver in the game. But maybe tough I player period in the NFL. The giants went one and three in the final game of the season. When Beckham was with an injury. So we're joined again here in the studio by Jason McIntyre. Those say anything crazy about my. I'm almost close to call. Jason wacko time. Got nice. Receivers right now. Do you think the giant should move on from Odell? I do. I do Jay sorry. I know you're big giants fan. You know? It's funny before the playoffs. Everybody looked and said, you know, the five highest paid quarterbacks none of the made the postseason, and nobody looked at the wide receivers of the top five wide receivers highest paid guys. One of them made the playoffs. Okay. I know Jennings. Wow. I'm about to tell you Greg Jennings. A great wide receiver. We were watching his Super Bowl highlights together. One time in the dressing room. Guys, a superstar I love wide receivers. They're important. Julia nettleton fifty third highest paid wise lower in the league. He was the end now now super. He can't carry Beckham sneakers. Zo Dell Bevin new is too expensive. And there's a reason that nobody in the giants organization. Jamie has come out and said not true keeping Odell because they're looking ship about a town. This is a guy phenomenal player. His teammates love him. They do not need to spend eleven percent of their salary cap on Odell Beckham, it's just not attainable. And Greg I believe that the forty Niners will be in play several teams you do not need to pay del Beckham. They can build around saquon Barkley, which is what the GM Dave Gettleman. Does he did it in Carolina when he ship Steve Smith outta town two years later behind ground game? They were in the Super Bowl they went. They did not they offer Super Bowl to the Broncos. I think they should trade Odell Beckham if you're saying solely because he makes so much money. That's a different that's different situation. He's earned that money. So I mean, and they decided to pay him that he earns that that's what he gets. But they are not better without Odio Beckham. They. Need Odell Beckham on the field? Specifically offense of let's just keep it on one side of the ball. And I'm used one Chris I'm gonna give you some facts with Odal Beckham on the field, the twenty one and twenty six not a great team without him there. Six and fifteen they're terrible team when you look at ally manning and his numbers in his with Odell with without odeal. Like, let's let's look at this before OBI J fifty eight percent completion percentage with OB. Jay. He's sixty seven percent without without him in passing only average about two hundred and thirty yards with him. He's thirty yards better to sixty touchdowns. It's ridiculous to forty one one seventy nine touchdown interception ratio without a with. That's without. Oh Bill with Odell one thirty two to sixty nine. Like these numbers. Don't. Oh, del Beckham makes ally manning and that offense a lot better. There is no way around it. There's I don't care. What argument you pose just because he's his numbers have allowed him to earn the money that he's making you want to say, oh, we're they pay him too much money. Ship him out. That's a whole nother conversation. If you're saying, you know, because they're spending too much money, and he's taking too much of the cat. Then you should look to move him. But to say that they they don't need him there better without him. That is absolutely false just to recap there under five hundred with him. And without yes. Because it's still a team right team game. I'm not saying that he changes the game, and he can do everything because you still need offense of line. You still need to defense to stop somebody either. They'll need a quarterback that can get you. I'm sorry, Jamie. You studying the quarterback and get him the ball. It's so that he stuff so get him out. Get get guys. In their pay them twenty right on the money. Just stop it. Look like, you said if they want to trade him for financial reasons, that's one thing. They signed him knew everything you said they knew when they signed into that big deal. And Dave Gettleman has come out time and time again hit he signed him to trade. Yes. All right. You knew the situation. He's the only thing keeping alive manning on serviceable, and you gave the numbers which was great. We saw the difference that a great receiver can make in Dallas without Amari Cooper, Dak Prescott low. Laurie Cooper, look great. When they what the giants need to be focused on is getting another quarterback and its allies starts to your fine. But you gotta get the guy for two years from now at least if not this year, and that guy whether the way Haskins Cuyler Murray or somebody else he will be much better. If he's got OB J there and have a back a running back like saquon Barkley if you get a really. Good quarterback in there. Now, you've got something on the offense side of the ball. Don't blame their poor record or obe- Jay because no receiver. No matter. How good can totally turn the team around to Cowboys examples. Perfect because you said they have an offensive line. And they have a defense defense was top ten. The giants have neither of those Chris rating. Jay is on what he's. What he's cap room to go after a mouse. We what you're saying. Basically saying is if you're a great player, you just don't take a lot of no not say. Vigil. Who think Cooper's going to say taking up eleven percent of the Cowboys cap, Greg. Not yet. A we'll see what how is that jas thing. They knew when they sat down and made the contract what it wants to be able to hold onto a playoff his caliber. Greg is right. He's earned that to give it to because they liked him nine because they looked at everything. And the other thing I hit for he keeps getting her. Really? He is. He is a great doubt about and you need to stop this whole money thing that you always wanna tach the people. So when things go bad, you look go well because he makes too much money. And if they do well nobody ever brings up right? It's all the it's a knee jerk reaction. Just because things you're not looking at the entire giants roster and saying he lies bad. The defense is is other things. But. Jay, that's not the reason taking up a low of their salary cap. He's making twenty million dollars. I. Well, no. They couldn't they couldn't do this make the play. They'll just started making this money. Yes, they couldn't they couldn't make moves before. Then if you remember last year, Adam shift had a report Odell Beckham will be traded before the draft. They toyed with this idea last year, then they didn't trade him. Now. Here we are again Jay Glazer with the rumors time to train Dell. I'm telling you look at Gettleman the GM look at his history. Okay. He goes to Carolina after one year ship Steve Smith out of town, the great receiver. Okay. See Smith was angry two years later with a ground game. They were second in the league in rushing. They go to the next year. What worded while they were tense, ity, whatever I may come on. Seventy a roller coaster opened. NFL to even since then, you know, it's a little bit different. Now, sixty seven years old Gettleman old school turned sixty eight later this month, he is old school. He's defense and running. That's what he wants to do. Okay. Then the giant on the giants better without Odell Beckham. I gotta see what they do with the money science better without odeal Beckham. I think they can be. Yes. Think better. I'm foul line rather build around saquon Barkley, the no don't gay three non answer. So. That's say Barkley outplays this contract, right? And he's taking. How about this point is taking up a drafted a young quarterback acid back wouldn't be taking that would have done that. I agree with you. I don't think he li-, man. But let's put it on OB. Jay, I'm not putting it on him. Twenty million when you don't have a defense and offense of light go. Let's think about where del might fit in because there's been some rumors out there already of different teams. What do you think did for him to look at the Cleveland Browns? Okay. They've got a quarterback on the rookie deal. His best, buddy. Jervis Landry from LSU is on Cleveland. This is a team that has I think the second most third most salary cap room after the Colton jets. They can afford Odell you got Odell Nick job Kareem hunt. Jarvis Landry Baker Mayfield. That's an awesome all under twenty eight years ago. Give giant draft picks. They got a ton of draft picks give offense of lineman. Maybe the giants bite Cleveland thirty three to one to win the Super Bowl. Now just saying if they can get Beckham that team to do some damage. I mean, I don't I. Almost that. Why is that why you weren't aborted, orange invasion? Clemmie? Honestly, I think he would fit in anywhere. They need a receipt. Like the dude is fantastic. I get the color colorful personality. But like you say yesterday he didn't have that many off the court field issues this season. No. And it's about his talent. I just think people get caught up on money. And so every time something goes wrong. They just go straight to that. Oh, he's the prom because he takes up so much somebody's gonna make people making money. Nobody was saying what he lies makes a ton of money. He probably should have been one of zoo that you know, why? Because you still need a quarterback better. Giants again smoke it. What did you do before you came in here? You know, in football when these when these general managers have these players on this contract, they they know that guys can potentially get hurt in not play. So they offer them, right? Did you know that? Unbelievable. Stop and buying breaking hearts and just I hate to do this Jennings. Is a great human being. Jason. Thanks bye. Con capper. Nick reportedly was offered a chance to play football again. We'll discuss that one. The athletic reports. The alliance of American football reached out to Cohen capper Nick to join their new league. But according to the Associated Press cabinet asked for at least twenty million dollars to play. The problem is af players only get three year two hundred fifty thousand dollar non guaranteed contracts. Capper Nick hasn't played an NFL game since two thousand sixteen rub begin here. What's your reaction to this? I don't blame them. I would ask for twenty or twenty five million two. They need him more than he needs of this minor league upstart football league. And that's what they were trying to cash in on you know, like to use him because he had he saw with that league. First of all everybody in America. Would know what the league was and was about number two. His first game back would probably have rating student roof for CBS and put this thing on the map. So I don't care what. They were paying the other guys. And maybe he really. Never really considered playing there. 'cause it's almost a lose lose. If he goes there and balls out. Everybody's gonna say you're playing against has been never was. So that don't mean anything, and if he and if he doesn't play well, see, we told you he can't play no war. So there was nothing there for him. Really? It's all about the alliance. They're the ones who were trying to make a name off of him and use him. It's the same reason why they reached out Tim Tibo. They noted that guy moves the needle and fans going to be like, oh, Tim team O fun to get to see him play football again, or whatever. So I'm not surprised aquarium out of money. I would have done the same. Exactly. 'cause they're run by social Justice warriors. No. That's not the reason. No. Yeah. This was I have no problem with this. And with capper Nick denying playing in the league because there is no win for him. Him if he plays. Well is guaranteed that. Now, he's going to get another opportunity in the national Noli. No in. That's awesome. What he would be playing four. It's not just about the money with Colin Kaepernick he wants to prove that I didn't deserve to be just pushed out of the National Football League. And now you wanna downgrade me to playing in this league that nobody knows about. But if I play everybody will watch just to. Yes, literally depict any and everything that I do know. I'm not going to give you that. Right. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation. I could get injured, and then it's like up he was out of shape. He wasn't ready to play or everything looks negative. If he's everything will be negative for him. There's no pros. There's no added incentive for him to play in this league unless they were to give him the money that he's requesting because he understands what he's going to provide. For that. Because he even if he plays. Well, if he is the best thing that we've seen in a long time. I still don't think he gets shot at playing an NFL. He will have a greater case. But he has to go through this process where he feels like look I shouldn't have to do this. Anyway, I was in this league. And if I'm not good enough to play in this league. Then let me prove it capper. Nick, did what you do when you're free when you're free of what people think about you and people's perception, and then financially you're free to do. What you wanna do? He wielded his leverage, okay. Eve making thirty million dollars from Nike. So guess what? I'm not desperate. I don't need the NFL or the certainly not the af. And that's what he did. Now, if he was really thinking may like if it was about value, and I don't know you might be right. Maybe never considered it. Or maybe you know, he would do it for twenty million. If it's about the value. I bring to that league which he would bring a ton. I have no idea what their financial situation is. You told us with average player makes about seventy five grand. I think for the average player, but they gotta CBS deal. So you know, that's a pretty good deal. They're not on like, some remote cable channel that. Nobody knows about. I could've seen him maybe asking for five or ten million up front, and then a percentage of the jersey sales percentage of the bump that you get on television from my presence. I seen all that. But I'm fine with him going twenty million. I just have no idea if that's feasible for this league, or whatever what I don't want to hear is. Oh, see he does this proves. He doesn't wanna play. He is a of the freaking af I'm sorry. It's a minor league. Carmelo Anthony is dying to play basketball dying to get on a team. But he's going to go to the G league. No, he's above that, Colin cabinet above. And you were right on the money. He could go dance. Six touchdowns again. It would. NFL? It's not about his talent. No, he's not not in the NFL. Because people think he can't play their signing. Nathan peterman. All these dudes with the Redskins. They has nothing to do with his ability. This is all about the stance. He is taken and the feeling on the part of these owners that he started because you've got Eric Reed and other players that have Neil. But they feel like he started. They're trying to punish him and he's not going along with it. So I'm fine with what he did. He did the right thing and not just like people would want. Well, go ahead and play show us approved Couva to us. He doesn't have to do. This guy went to the Super Bowl. We've seen record. We've seen his play. He deserves a spot in the NFL. Everybody knows that. So this is Greg to your point if it's not going to alter anything. So that's why you ask for something. So ridiculous because they give it they give it to you might consider it like, wait a minute. I asked. Twenty million said, okay, right? A minute. Maybe I will play a couple of games. You know what I mean? But you wouldn't do what he's a smart, man. And it is about where he belonged which is the NFL not some off-shoot minor league plan against guys. We don't even know what if they call not saying he's bluffing. But let's say, okay, we're gonna give you twenty million to take in its own him that he's going to have to a lot of if he's if he's gonna do it for the reasons of you know, what I'll take that money and I'll play and I'll do that then. Okay. But if he's doing it because he feels like it's going to advance his opportunity or chances to get in the National Football League. He's smarter than that. He knows that. That's not the case in for me. When for fans out there that think that will call capper Knicks shouldn't be in the National Football League. Or he is not one of the top thirty two not even saying he doesn't have to be one of the best the top thirty two quarterbacks in the league. But there's thirty two. Backups. Hold a clipboard here nearly back in. So there's this opportunity that he knows he doesn't even have like he just get taken away from him. And I'm not saying that what he did. I agree with it. All but what he did it. Did it wasn't deserving of this? It wasn't deserving of this for him to now say, you know, what I'll plan this af like I'll settle. That's no, no. And again, the good thing is he doesn't have to because at some point everybody needs money, but he's got money because of the Nike deal and obviously made money before. So that's a great position to be in. So he can make it is a in. No that you know that league's not dumb. They know. No to going. He's a lightning rod, and no doubt among mind, if he played a game on CBS or one of those on built it up and everybody knew the numbers would be through the roof because people wanna peek in into see Colin capper, Nick, what it meant what the crowd was like, do, you know, what people wearing cap, Nick jerseys too. So I think they understand that and still I'm not always short at the NFL really has understood like what they've done that spurred people the other way, you know, what I mean by not letting capture Nick eight look, I agree with capper, Nick, I'm on his side. But look the NFL there's some people that our guest them the NFL for it. But some people that are form. So it's just everybody's not against them. Because the cabinet they do not everybody. But I'm saying there are people not watching and whether or not people want to believe and if he were to. Entertain this. Let's just hypothetical. He entertains this the rules of this league is different like didn't up right. There have protecting the quarterback like they do cO ball. You're you have a greater risk of sustaining injury a lot quicker than you do play in the National Football League, in my opinion. And he might be a target to somebody. Let me make a name off a Colin cabinet all ailing him. So that's smart. What you know, what if they offer me seventy five million? Real is their price if they offered a certain amount. No, I'm with there's always, right? I don't have that number in my head. But if they came that high, right? Thank you for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Jenny Taft. 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The most interesting thing will be everything that is happening on shefty's phone. We will bring it to you live for the next two hours. But let's start with the head to head battle between the top two candidates for MVP in the NBA J wheel. Here we go with James harden and Janas, and neither would disappoint pick it up in the second quarter rockets are and here's harden guarded by joy, L he's unstoppable. Door till midnight. Guard him the way coach bud one at the garden. You drive me a two point score. And then on the other side. I wanted to watch this moment here we're gonna freeze it off the rebound all five rockets are trying to stop you on us. And they can't do it. There's nothing you can do he sits eleven look at this crazy athleticism. There's a reason why he's one of the top players in the world, very next possession hardened. There's the patented jump back with the he leads the league and stuff back. You know that George hill you have to stay up on that force them to be a two point four force into drive. Handles are fun to watch rockets around nine now, ten seconds on the half of the rocket lead is five although. Push off greenie if it doesn't matter the once you allow him to find his rhythm. That's where you're done. He was six at sixteen for three rockets at any point fourth quarter. Now, the bucks lead is and what happens almost looked like he did it on purpose. Let's hear from harden afterwards on the whack to the head so noisy covering hurt. I don't even know why these ball somehow found came back into his hands. And I know how having. Bucks up. Fifteen. I can't believe he just got up. To get him out of the game. You gotta hit him in heaven with asking. Yes, anyone's up stick at one Janas face on the other end. And so the rockets are down ten here, we go next possession Hardin again from the wing rockets within seven and they're working their way back onto Ford ago Janas watches nice feed for Bledsoe who scored ten bucks backup seven next possession. The other way, we go harden. No. But he's going to get it back and watch him throwing it up and Clint cappella throwing it down and cappella have to be an author, but how about that bucket? Wind down for James harden cappella eighteen points, thirteen boards under three minutes to play now. Same score pardon around brogden. Yes. Forty two points eleven board six assists for hardened rockets down just three but under a minutes ago. And there we go the bucks with footed away, honest with the dagger. He scored twenty seven points twenty one boards five cysts, and he wins the showdown. For me was just another game. While they winning to be honest with you, I know by winning on doing whatever it takes out there and help you see may just leaving everything on the Florida everything it sells on how North American long us. But I just he wants to get around that pain, and it's pretty difficult. Let's slow down a little bit. But overall of the four quarters of the game, we we we put our butts off in. She's gotta continue to get better. I want some numbers hardened did score forty two but Milwaukee made his life difficult when driving the ball overall hard shots as four of eleven on drives had more turnovers than assists on those plays. We'll talk more about that in a minute right now. Laura lakers. Let's do it Lakers in cows Kuzin, of course, leading the Lakers that we have. That we have over on more on that. But early on we've seen booth me here and James's doubt Blake Griffen. This is what Kyle does his last game. Though, he missed sixteen of twenty shots or Luke Walton said we needed to be aggressive in this ball later, Laker down to Josh harsh. Vail McGee have to get rid of it. But smartly by Mckee Kaz Kouzmin gets this lamb right there. Second quarter Dame tide is twenty nine and you see the block fight Lonzo ball gift it with the sweep hats. It can take you cope with the way. And that's why we also balls effective. When the Brian James is now in the court because he actually has the ball. He had eleven to sit. They he makes great Leighs like that in transition. Tackling the ball into McPhee's face there that wasn't fun. Third quarter Lakers lead fifty seven to fifty Kuzina driving there. He can can you have it going all night long, and we'll get into that a little bit more in a moment though, late Lakers up by eleven and who's able to drill the three ball able to have that he helped out Lakers up by fourteen filled in the third. Lakers up by eleven reading Ingram finds this is what this is who he was in college. He was a spot up shooter at youth. How you can do so many things. Up on my jump shot a little bit this fucking with it pretty much all year and not just tied to stay consistent in my work ethic. And being a gym keeps shooting in. I know we got a lot of playmakers. We've got a lot of guys play basketball. No word team. And oh. Make you to Bill. Yes. Thanks. Thanks. But you know, we gotta playmakers in everybody can make plays in those for up to us. When everybody gets help you to do the same thing. Not lacking confidence is Kuda, and according to Elias cow coups, miss a second Laker with forty points and fewer than thirty minutes. Played in the shock lock era. He joined hall of Famer guilt Goodrich, scored forty in one thousand nine hundred seventy three against the trailblazers. Well, let's go back Jay to that bus rockets game out ahead in terms of the MVP race. When you talk about hardening Janas Jaanus won the game. With James harden is the most electrifying player on the planet right now in any sport in any sport. This is his twelve forty point game this season. And we start looking at some of the metrics there off the charts. I mean look fifty five percent of shots. James harden takes our from the three point line. Now. Coach bud why tactic of trying to make him a two point score. And a passer they were able to do that. But still for him that forty plus points last night. It goes to show you how imperative is to their team in every facet of the game. Now. Does it need to score forty plus a night. But he also needs to make sure that he's getting over, you know, tennis system night. That's who he is green. Yeah. He was unstoppable as he tends to be that little step back three. And you're gonna make that shot team. I mean nine out of ten times that's a bad shot for everyone else on the planet. Let's go back to Kouzmin then. Yes. Because as we watch the Lakers two different things, we're watching at the same time. There's how good can they be? And then what are they going to be in the future? What is coups MMA as far as the future of the league non-tradeable asset everybody, I'm telling you right now. If you're rob Pelinka, your Magic Johnson, your LeBron James that one guy you cannot trade is how clues my he's alpha male on this team that can play alongside LeBron James we've seen. Lebron James struggle. The play with Lonzo ball games have very very similarly Brandon Ingram and the Brian James their minutes. Erstad walls been doing that for a while because they struggle to exist on the same playing together everybody else's at tradable asset except cow. Kuzma, that's what I would know in this game moving forward. I mean in Davis all that conversation. You would hold onto coup. For dear life if you're the league. Yes. Because that's the teams are going to want. Now. I don't give them up. I think him and Josh heart potentially confident that category to just because I liked what he brings to the table defensive actually think keeps talking about death lineups. Right. We're going to get back to he brought here's the thing. We we'll make fun of him for that. And rightfully so as Jalen would say, but but the reality is I like the attitude doesn't just have the game. He's got the attitude more basketball as we go, but it's a huge football day. So get shefty's phone back in here because three more NFL head coaching jobs were filled yesterday that Browns promoting Freddie kitchens to their head coaching job. We'll show you that one. After we show you this one this is Adam gave from the jets are expected to hire as their head coach shefty telling me just moments ago, the agreement has been made, but they've not yet figured out the contract. This is Freddie kitchens. He's been promoted to the head coaching job in Cleveland. He became their offensive coordinator this year after Hugh Jackson was fired and coaxed extremely well. And that's Vic Fangio leaves Chicago where he had been the defensive coordinator and becomes the new head. Coach of the Denver Broncos. And a lot of people in Chicago that I know are extremely disappointed for that. So those are some of the moves that we have of there's still a few balls in the air that everyone is figuring out and schefty here working as phones quickly off the top of that the gays thing to the jets. You were telling me earlier it is not one hundred percent done. They're still negotiating the contract. But he is going to be the coach is expected to be the coach. Yes, they've to finalize the contract should not be any hold ups. But in an era where we've seen things change the last. Well, you never know. But yes, the expectation is that Adam gates is going to be the head coach of the New York. And so there's at least one person at this table who was very interested in hearing from Dan Orlovsky, the answer to the question is that the right hire for Sam darnold. That's what I feel. I mean, I understand. It's not this like sexy higher like we've seen some organizations have. But I will say this. If you look at what Adam gays did down to Miami. All right. So he had Ryan tannehill as his quarterback. What did he do to tending? We maintain a hill in some people's eyes franchise quarterback because they paid him as such they made them in a two touchdown one interception ratio quarterback. Now, his health was a big issue. But he made ten when he was healthy. They were a good football team solid football team intended. He'll was playing at a pretty good level. So what does he do for Sam darnold? We'll find out but he did some so things for Ryan tannehill. If you wanted to feel encourage as jets fan that they're hiring Adam gates, all you'd have to do would be asked Peyton Manning what he thinks about him gays and Peyton Manning would rattle off about all of that. I'm gay strengths and attributes and characteristics that he believes will be excellent for Sam darnold, and ultimately when the jets meet the decision to hire Adam gates. Over Matt rule the Baylor head coach and Todd Mahnken buccaneers up and support me to the former Booker news up into four neater and Mike McCarthy, the Packers say they believe that it is done with the mind to grow Sam darnold as a quarterback that is why you go higher Adams because the work he did with Peyton Manning in Denver, and Jay Cutler and Chicago Jay Cutler and Ryan tannehill and Miami. We'll find out whether it's right or not I'll just telling you that their belief in him with quarterbacks is why they go and make this move. And listen understanding, I know Adam gates, I was with them into his young his strength is getting quarterbacks to play somewhat structured football, right? I've been outspoken my thoughts on Sam darnold hit his magical nece in. Sometimes it's going to be a great thing. And sometimes it'll get him into trouble gays if he can get darnold to still be magical but refined some of that to minimize four mistakes year six mistakes year, then it's going to be paid off higher. It'll be very impactful higher. Now. What does he do? Logan's Dow needs to be there. He needs to be the offensive coordinator. He's innovative. I'm telling you. He's an innovative innovative OSI. But he's been squashed by some head coaches. If gay so pull away a little bit. This could be a good higher. I want to know what you think. I the first thing that you said was and that I think is the way that almost all jet fans felt there's nothing exciting about this. I understand the mentality of it. The one thing I'm most concerned about it. I know that fan base. I know the New York media, I think that could get very ugly with gases personality if it doesn't start. Well, he is fiery. I would use the word combustible take me to Cleveland. Do you like the move love it? I can't love it more. I mean when you watch Cleveland, and they take Baker Mayfield last year number one. How do they change organization, and then you marry with Freddie kitchens after Hugh Jackson moved on and the impact that he had what I love this. He started changing their personnel's that they were using on offense. Green and allowed Baker Mayfield the show off his greatest strength, which was his accuracy. They protected him. And then he was able to push the ball downfield. We saw them go from the twenty ninth. Best offense in the NFL too. I under Freddie kitchens. You can't deny that you can't run from that reality. And I think John Dorsey realized that like, why am I looking? Everywhere else when it's been so impactful, I talk about the thirteen personnel. Would it did is it put three tight ends on the field. So then they ran the ball and utilize play action. But you see protection for Baker Mayfield. It kept them cleaning the pocket, and he was able to utilize some of the people that he's got outside watch the accuracy on these throws, greedy. Again. Thirteen personnel. Play action. Look at this ball placement joke. You can't throw it better than that. When you protect them, which Freddie did then you've got to see his greatest strength. It's interesting because Tuesday night, I think there are people in the Browns organization with thought that the job was going to go to Kevin Stefanski. The Vikings offensive coordinator in somewhere. There was a switch. And I think that has obviously maybe with John Dorsey make the final coal that they agreed that Ferdie kitchens is going to be that code. What's interesting to me is that a year ago all Tom ago? We've never heard Freddie kitchen about as a head coaching candidate ever. And when they fire Hugh Jackson and promote Greg Williams. Everybody's talking about this being, you know, dishing for Greg Williams. And low behold the offensive coordinator that nobody talked about ever as a head coaching candidate comes up and wins the head coaching job in the NFL right now to look bad is a team that is a team with exactly the right trajectory. They went from zero wins two seven eight and one and they've got some money to spend some good players around them. We'll see where that winds up going. We will have more on the coaching carousel as we go. Let's get to the playoff games coming up this weekend because they're all fascinating divisional playoff round begins Saturday afternoon. Andrew lock in the colts visiting the chiefs Kansas City does not like playing in the playoffs at home. They've lost six straight home playoff games. Their last win nineteen Ninety-three Joe Montana was starting quarterback. Now, it's that beyond superstar the late game Saturday teachers the Cowboys headed to LA to take on the rains. It is their ninth policies and meeting in the most in the NFL's history between any two teams the series is tied at four games a piece, but all those go all the way back then on Sunday patriots host the chargers. One eastern pats of one eighth straight. Home playoff games charges. Meanwhile, nine away from Los Angeles this year. So something's got to give in a late game Sunday eagles and saints. Saints beat the eagles forty eight to seven and week eleven Carson Wentz threw three interceptions that day. Nick foles now gets his shot in New Orleans. And speaking of the saints. How about this John McCain is yesterday tweeted out, and it has been confirmed four on the guards entered the saints locker room with coach Sean Payton wheeling villa bardy trophy on top of two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in cash coats, Ben said, you'll want this win three bleeping games the locker room erupted two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars each player's Super Bowl bonus hashtag who DAT. Saint for talking about it yesterday. I think just showing trying to give everybody a vision, especially the young guy says to you know, obviously, what we're after the opportunity that we have especially as the one seed, you know, just knowing that man, we we we control it all comes through through this place. But this is something in person that adds a little bit more motivation and just see that Super Bowl trophy seeing that. Made. What we think of that? Well, I don't know that I've ever seen two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in cash in my life. Maybe all the years together put together there's a mathematical error in there. Okay. The saints. Don't get twenty four thousand dollars for playing in the wildcard round. So it only should have been two hundred and one thousand. Vacation I've never seen torture one thousand dollars. And also there's something about just actual cash that makes people do things that they would never ordinarily do just the side of it. They make hundreds of thousands of dollars millions of dollars a year. But the added cash is such an enticing incentive the year that I covered the Broncos. They went to the SuperBowl. Bill Romanowski what handout hundred dollar bills for people to wear hats of a nutritional supplement company and the players couldn't take that money and put on that merchandise fast enough because they wanted to cash in their pocket money. That's how you motivate pros straight. Some kids are going to see that and go that's half of my years salary in three weeks this going to get you to study just a little bit more. How about the game? Now, meantime, let's get to this because we just saw it by two months ago. And it wasn't pretty. Yeah. I mean when you watch that game. The first thing that stands out is the saints run game was dominant. They hit some huge gashes against Billy in really early on. So big question is can Phillies slow down the New Orleans run game and ran for like one hundred fifty seven yards of something like that. What team is going to not only defend the run better. But run the football better that was a big part of New Orleans success. And then I'm shocked to say this. But Carson Wentz struggled against the pressure against New Orleans. And when they played Tampa to Nick foles will not struggle against pressure and against Tampa to he's going to be able to get the ball out under duress. Find the open receivers. Hang in the pocket and make sure he's distributing the ball. He'll do that. Better than Carson Wentz. Did in New Orleans will blitz POS. That's their DNA. He'll handle it better than Carson in that first game. I just think it's fun to watch Nichols when playoff games because every time he does that conversation comes up. What do they do about? Nick. What do they do Carson Wentz? Well, listen Carson Wentz. Make stick about is their quarterback of the future and they absolutely intend to hold onto him. But every time they win one of these games. Chef I live heavily question. I'm on my way up. Here. There's billboards billboards on the New Jersey turnpike, leaving Philadelphia of Nick foles. There's no other billboards if any other eagle player other than Nick foles up the turnpike, listen, we're really getting ahead of ourselves. But let's say he gets into a conference championship game a Super Bowl even wins. This MVP again has there ever been a team? That's had a Super Bowl championship MVP two straight years. And then banished him tried to trade them during the season. And if he wins the SuperBowl. Okay. But what do you do? Of course, it went. It's crazy to think about that. Carson Wentz is one of the most transcendent young talent in sports. And he can't say though, the other guy keeps winning game US Sal paolantonio mailman. There is no question. Nick. Back of the eagles next year. It was last night. I gotta get to something else. We saw one of the genuinely great individual performances in college basketball history last night. And I want you to see it here. This is Marquette and Creighton is the game of the night. Going to pick it up with point eight seconds left. Crazy, okay? Clinton's three points. The the ball less than a second left under the basket. And look what they do the one thing. They cannot do is. They float away out of bounds. Time comes off the clock. So they're gonna come all the way back, and they're going to give it Marquette a chance. Marquette gets it in Sam Houser. What the hell his basketball? This is why you love what's going to happen in March. Sam has gonna take another look at this. This is very close. Does the light go off before the ball leaves at hand? Do you agree that this was too close to overturn the decision on the court actually think that should have been overturned not thinking what they decide to do is leave as called the celebration on the bench. And so we're going to overtime very top. Call and data just becomes this kid show, Marcus Howie. He had thirty nine and regulations. Oh, watch him. Go off, by the way, you have to score fifty two last year against providence. He's the former. Bucket. You just saw there putting them up in front and he's got forty four to three minutes to go. The lead is three and he's another three. He's got forty seven single handedly winning this game on three minutes to go in the overtime Marquette's up ninety three ninety another step back three, by the way. It's lived at this highlight star that point zero eight at indirect and here it goes, this is where it would end Marquette. That's a free throw to ice it and four Howard's to score fifty three points that is a new big east record most points ever scored in the conference fifty three Marcus Howard. Who was a one man wrecking crew? He created sixty eight points in this game scored fifty three assisted on fifteen more than sixty four percent of Marquette's offense. All right. We're just getting started coming up and things got a lot more interesting for people that want to see Kyle Marie-Claire in the NFL yesterday. We'll tell you what the Heisman Trophy winner did. And how intrigue teams are this get crazy? Plus Patrick Mahomes, set an MVP season. Nine thirty eastern. You will be stunned where Dan ranks him amongst the NFL quarterback still playing day there. Up is brought to you by Mira lax at works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. Back to the play offs the lake game Saturday. Cowboys Rams Cowboys have lost seven straight road playoff games. Last win the ninety two NFC title game over the Niners. And so we'll see what that press gotten company can get done. He deck completed seventy one percent of his passes. We the Laurie Cooper on the field Cooper. However is caught this one of seven targets in his career. When it keeps linguist been the newest defender, so strength on strength. Something's got to give us a critical matchup. They will also be a match up of two of the top running back to the league. Ezekiel Elliott led the league in rushing Todd Gurley accounted for league twenty one touchdowns. But he's got a knee Todd Gurley. How you feel? That's that's about I have been on the field last two weeks. So it was like why is this league? So we wanted to know highs as need doing, and, you know, get up so and then I don't have to keep getting tweets. And Instagram's all day, they're gonna just wash video see how my knee doing going to believe it or think, I'm lying, so but it's cool. It's cool. I'm really just eager to get back on the field. And and then just see I response, and then hopefully, you know, we have some new questions next week. And now that in me. All right now, the Cowboys run defense was fifth in the league. But they struggled defending running backs in the passing game. Dallas a lot more than six catches a game to back through the reception percentage of eighty four both those rank in the bottom five of the league. So maybe they use girly more in that regard. Shefty very quickly. You were telling me on sportscenter this morning that the Rams feel very good about C J Anderson as well, regardless of how healthy girly girl. He's a superstar Todd Gurley workhorse, but they are going to spell him at certain times with CJ Anderson and get C J Anderson, some work to keep girl even fresher during games than he's been because Anderson is deserved. And so what does this add up to as far as your concern? I'm looking at this game. My eyes go strictly to the Cowboys linebackers. You know, the Cowboys linebackers are great and they're incredibly aggressive downfield. That's why they're really good in the run game. But what is their greatest strength could end up becoming their greatest weakness and Seattle started to expose that last week in play action game, and you're gonna watch the clipper here like watch L aggressive. They are downhill to this run how quickly they flow, and that's what opens up some of these play action passes. And I'm just telling you, Sean McVeigh's gonna watch that game and Salvi because he's going to look at it and go these linebackers have great tons of respect for him. But what we do best is the play action game. And that's how I wanna take. I want to take advantage of them and use that play action game against them. So that's going to be a big tail when you're looking at the Rams offense. Can they take advantage of the linebackers aggressive, gresh aggression for the Cowboys? How about that Prescott in this game? And maybe the importance of not holding onto the ball too long shoes. I mean, we're talking about guy who he's one of the quarterback's probably the top three when it comes to holding the ball in the pocket in the link that he does it in. And when you watch him play. He's got understand that when you're playing to Rams ninety nine is coming. I mean, Aaron Donald is coming and so what does that have to do get the body your hands because if you take sex against this team? That's when Wakefield is going to go here, we go. I'm talking about Aaron Donald. I mean, the Cowboys offense ivine is fantastic. But Fletcher Cox getting some business when they played Gerald McCoy gave him the business when they played in. This is going to be a huge test. Because Aaron Donald is the most. Biggest the greatest force. We have on the defensive line in the NFL and deck, Ken, not hold onto the football. If he does the Cowboys we'll have a long afternoon on offense. The Rams of approaches post-season a lot different than last year last year, they rested. Their regulars going into the playoffs this year week seventeen even though they had an ad the number two she clinched people thought they would get a playing San Francisco. Everybody played except girly who was injured. And I think they're going in this year more aggressive than they were last year. I think they've learned from that. Okay. Some huge news in the NFL draft yesterday. And this is enormous. We're going to discuss this at length today, but the chronicle reporting last night that Heisman Trophy winner. Kyle Marie expected to declare for the NFL draft. Now, declaring would not guarantee. Marie would choose football in the Oakland aid who drafted ninth overall in laughter. Fateful draft would retain his pro. Right. Even if he tried the NFL third. So an interesting twist check out this down from October, Texas Tech. Now cardinals had goes flipping very after. Tyler Marini, our freak and followed him since sophomore at high school and just think the world of him and what he can do on a football field. I don't have enough good things to say about him. He's nominal. I take him with the I figure the draft. If I could always signed up to play baseball, but he is a dominant football player. And I would I would take him with the first pick. Kingsbury now that head coach of the cardinals who picked I in the draft this year here is on a us. A first round pick them quarterback. Josh Rosen last year. So what what will they do? Life is a Larry for more on very let's bring in our draft. Guru Milquet for junior. And if Mel Cuyler Murray comes out and says he wants to play football exclusively how high do you think you could go in this draft, Laura, you thought about with Clinton Kingsbury said that was you know, talk about prophetic back in October to say now zone. I BIC they have Josh Rosen. But it makes that pick Kingsbury that a lot that we're valuable, and I think you'll get the early to mid first round the giants are at six then you have Miami Washington. The middle of the first that he's gonna go the first round how I got a long way too late April and he had a phenomenal year. He was right around. Baker mayfield's completion percentage you counted? For more touchdowns. The Baker Mayfield did last year and the same offense at Oklahoma. I'd say early to mid first round. And of course, the fee goes the baseball and mid. February becomes an Oakland. A changes the whole dynamic war then instead of early to mid first rounder committed only to baseball then it becomes a fifth sixth round Vic just to get his rights. Hold those rights for a year. Should he give up baseball? And you wonder how the marketing deals can factor into all of this certainly to there's also plenty of speculation as exactly how tall Murray is. And he hates us. But anyway, we're going to talk about it. How much does his height play factor as his NFL dress prospects look at him well seven years ago with Russell Wilson five ten and three quarters was a third round pick the league changed a lot in the last seven eight years large to the point where that point guard who's in shotgun or is it punt formation or really figure out? We see a quarterback back that far away from everybody in space rolling right left. You really care if he's five eight five nine or five eleven at that point with the skill set of collar Murray, the competitiveness the football IQ, all that is gonna matter that much in today's NFL. That's why right now. In two thousand nineteen draft. He could be an early to mid first rounder where six seven years ago, you're not gonna bet a third or fourth round pick. Great. Seth thanks so much milk, hyper junior or on Cuyler Murray. And Dan, you are Chaldean at the bid to get in here because we did hear that Kingsbury said back in October. And he said this even after that as well that he would take Marie number one. Is that a realistic thing that could happen? Absolutely. Absolutely. Like, so we talk about short quarterbacks or come from the spread. And the biggest question Mark was like how do they fit? How are they going to transition? Well, that's not a question anymore. He we know what it's going to be in Kingsbury offense. He's not going to an offense that wants him to be a traditional drop back quarterback of whatnot. You're talking about an absolutely electric player. And I don't care if it's the first pick or the twelfth pick of the twenty eighth pig. If kid if cliff Kingsbury is in with the cardinals, and he's saying I would take him with the first pick. I understand they have Josh Rosen. There's other teams who need quarterbacks. There's other teams who need quarterbacks nothing. Nothing in the NFL surprise. Let me send this over to chef. Because I think it's nuts. First of all, I do think is heightened matters. But let's let's play the game where cliff Kingsbury decides. That's the quarterback that I want. Now, all of a sudden Josh Rosen becomes tradable is playing quarterback Philadelphia. Arizona got one for you cliff. Kingsbury calls up the giants and says, I will send you Josh Rosen for Odell Beckham who doesn't do it. I think the cardinals would need more than Odell Beckham junior for Joshua's. That's what I believe. And I say that because odeal Beckham junior is on a pricey contract and quarterbacks are currency Odell Beckham junior's at transcendent out. He's one of the elite players in the game. Josh Rosen, please the most important position there is and I sit in this too earlier greenie I go back to the draft last year. And I know people were skeptical, but there was a time when the Cleveland Browns holding the first and fourth overall picks were considering the possibility of taking quarterbacks at one. And four, and I think that if Sam darnold had been there at four I think they might have considered taking they can be filled at one and then. Second floor, candidly, that's brilliant. I love them. Both quarterbacks and then auctioned off one because again when you look at quarterbacks that's what teams pay for. So if the cardinals wanted Kyla Murray one which seems high to me, but again, here's here's number one. You trade Rosen and you want to take them where he is. So that means if you're the cardinals, and you are from to the giants you get Carter Murray, if you wanna met one, and Odell, you instantly come one of the most three or four desire to you could take them at six if you want to get their quarterback, then you flip flop picks. But then you don't know. But you don't know. But here's my thing. When people say like I'd take him at fourteen not at one why does that ever matter for question? Could we just bring this all the way back to the beginning? You cover college football. Is he better than Baker Mayfield? His better that he is better. He is better than Baker Mayfield. He's slightly better. And I think the main key is that he gets the ball out quicker, and and Lincoln Riley would tell you this the quick release that you see in this video he operated. In Lincoln Riley's, Oklahoma offense, which remember a lot of NFL teams wanted to hire Lincoln Riley because that offense is very interesting. He operated better in it. Then Baker Mayfield did because of his decision making. He runs everything when he's out there on the field. He figures out the protections. He does everything they need to do very rarely check to the sideline. If he does. It's almost a fake check just to throw off the defense. That's how he operates that offense. And I believe slightly better. The bicker me this should different. Danish. Russell wilson. Drew Brees Baker Mayfield they've made an acceptable to take a short quarterback when they are that gifted and that's killed this guy grants. Grants. Weird stuff at quarterback. They do weird stuff. Greenie. Can I show you one moment of video from the Heisman Trophy ceremony this year? Okay. Dwayne Haskins is in this draft. And and and Kyle Murray is in this draft, and they were shot that's Kyle Murray. And that's to Wayne Haskins moments. Again, this woman with the three that were standing on the stage. They'd look look at this. I mean, that's like Dwayne Haskins and his sons. I don't mean to little anyone. But this does matter five foot eight is not five foot. Russell Wilson is five foot eleven there's a big difference. He being five foot eleven and being five foot eight I'm just I've been around a lot of six foot five quarterbacks that stunk. Like, it does not mean that being told makes you good. But there is a shirt point. I'm inside game was going to revolutionize the NFL hosting. He's the closest thing coming out of the draft that we would have to a Michael Vick. I mean, he's that kind of electricity. Maybe not straight-line speed, but electricity. He would be the closest thing to a treat wise. Vic he also uses people calling him short as motivation. And I do think there's an intangible factor to him. He's a winner. He's consistently one all the way through his high school days that they make their to the giants. The giants need to think about it Baker Mayfield. And what he did in his rookie. You're absolutely helps Kyle Amaury in his case to go. Hi, industry left. I don't disagree with that. We'll keep talking about this as we go. He also has an interesting decision to make between football and baseball all that and more on the table. And also coming up this morning. I'm getting up this weekend is the buffet of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League. So which one will play the best this weekend. Dan will break them down in our for now here on ESPN? Indeed knows it's hard to find qualified candidates when you're hiring. It's like finding a unicorn, but when you post your job on indeed, it's easy to find people with the skills, you need nurse practitioner for plus years experience acute care certification. Indeed has a huge pool of amazing candidates. 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The most scored by Boston in a regulation game since two thousand four are they starting to finally put it all together. The last four games they've been leading the NBA in field goals assisted seventy-five percent, averaging thirty four assists per game. Last four thirty four assists per game last four that's incredible doing it. As a team they've been fun to watch of late. How about Anthony Davis doing it all against the Cavs last night finishing with thirty eight points, thirteen rebounds, seven if this to steal. Four blocks as New Orleans beat Cleveland one forty two one twenty four pelicans third straight win these this team making the playoffs that they keep Anthony Davis. If they keep Anthony Davis keeping in playing at that level. Yes, potentially. I do. But look the reality is you should beat the Cavs. They've lost eleven in the row AD should be putting up members like this this call us, the speak fade fade and Anthony Davis is Anthony. Davis tile Kouzmin picked up the slack leakers. Without LeBron last night, dropping a career high forty one points and just three quarters of action earlier in the day. He made some headlines for suggesting eight potential Lakers quote debt lineup when fully healthy. These are with the close. Look like, he's I think are small ball unit can be really good. I think we can have a death lineup. Whether that's Rondo and Lonzo on the floor the same time in me and Brandon Ingram, LeBron or substituting guys. I think we get better defensively and get more continuity that smallville lineup is going to be huge for us especially in the playoffs when everybody's going to be going small Jay, what do you got? On the death lineup. Basically went viral yesterday on Twitter. Everybody was talking about it. And I just found it to be quite interesting. Well, I if there's only one death lineup and that was two thousand fourteen fifteen with the Golden State Warriors without team with Harrison Barnes. Andrea Dallas Steph curry Klay Thompson net squad. Right. So that's worse off. Secondly, I understand what he's saying. Defensively. They do have great length, and they do have great versatility. But what happens here is often? Simply they become a struggled. Lebron James Lonzo ball cannot play together. Essentially. And at the end of a game. You you need shooters in the fool with LeBron James burn the Ingram. And LeBron James there minutes have been staggered by Luke Walton because Brennan Ingram struggles when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. So offensively I think you'd give up a lot of chemistry. I hear what my man is saying Cowan Kuzma, it would never work. It sounds better than what it is reality. Right. And I kind of like have confidence honestly because he has been that stabilizing force while the Braun has been out, obviously, he's one of the more consistent guys on this team. If not the most consistent, you said earlier, he's the one guy they can't trade away. But do you think it's just more that he used the phrase death lineup because that what made people up at arms? I think you said it casually to get what they say. And and back to my original point about that. Look, I still think attractive assets, we think about Bernard Ingraham probably has a higher ceiling and for Lonzo ball carrots or a guy that can actually create please in transition like LeBron James. And I think how who's most perfect complimentary player LeBron at the end of games that scenario. Oh, you need a guy who can catch shoot. You need a guy that can create a shot on his own. And that's what brings to the table for the Lakers. So just to be clear like if we're talking death lineups here. Anybody on that supposed death lineup actually playing for the warriors right now one LeBron James who will be the only guy that would start for the warriors. Everybody else is coming off the bench. If we go. Duck lineup death lineup. Okay. We'll get stuff tip off your weekend. With our next NBA Friday doubleheader on ESPN at seven thirty eastern Pacers, Nick VIN. We'll take you to Salt Lake City for the Lakers squaring off against the jet. Our coverage begins with NBA countdown at seven on ESPN and the ESPN app. What do you? We're coming your way on get up. But we get you over to the divisional match up between the colts. And there's not a bad match up in the NFL this weekend law and include this one here, which is where it starts the colts and chiefs Patrick Mahomes, making his first playoff start against the colts defense that gave the Shawn Watson a lot of trouble last week. And loosen. You think home field advantage matters here? I think it might actually work. The other way the Kansas City. Chiefs have played at Arrowhead stadium since nineteen seventy two and yet the colts have as many playoff wins there as the chiefs do both have to I told you earlier this morning. The last time the chiefs won a home playoff game their quarterback was Joe Montana. So this week, you get Mahomes, and obviously he's unbelievable. He is electric is any quarterback. That's come into the league maybe ever, but he goes up against an indie defense that people. Don't talk near enough about show me. I've never been more excited to touch. Listen, people at home drop what you're doing pay attention. This is incredible stuff. The greatest thing is the colts defense, they're liars. So here's the first thing. Greenie put her is Lamar Miller the running back for the Texans and Darius Leonard the linebacker for the codes when a defense coz man to man, that means everybody has a guy no matter where he goes on the field. So as Houston puts a running back up at a wide receiver position endeared. Leonard follows him you've told the Shawn Watson we're playing man to man defense. The first time the next thing you're told is a very young age. We're going to put her eyes on a receiver here and then peered sear for the colts right there. He's going to run in motion. You're told from a very young age as a quarterback when you motion a guy from one side of the line of scrimmage to the other and a defender runs with them. We're we're playing man to man defense. So I want to reiterate that that. Now twice. You've told the Shawn Watson as a quarterback up top. We've got a running back in a linebacker. Hey does Shawn. We're playing man to man, we saw the motion receiver running from one side of the other defender goes with them the Sean we're playing man to man this matters because Andy Reid does as good a job as anybody for Patrick Mahomes. Telling them the coverage before the snap. Kelsey moves around Damian William moved around and then Patrick Mahomes could standard before this Napa goes. I know I've got man zone will what happened here with the colts defense. They lied to Shawn Watson that's not man-to-man defense greening that zone defense. Look at all. These guys is is in forward is pacing quarterback is to the quarterback is to the quarterback. They're not on their man. They're playing zone defense. They told the Shawn Watson before the snap. We're playing manned bowl get snapped. And we've played zone on you that changes everything game plan wise for the chiefs because everyone talks about what's the greatest way to slow down a quarterback. And they say we'll hit them. No, it's not plant seeds of dealt in their mind. Now, Patrick Mahomes in Andy Reid can't stand at the line of scrimmage and know, exactly what the coverage is the greatest attribute. They do is an offense. Give their quarterback information before the snap. Tell them the coverage. And then it's easy. It's playground stuff. My guys better than your guy. The colts have shown on tape to Patrick Mahomes. We're lying to you Patrick Mahomes. No longer can trust. What he sees that totally changes Sunday's game. It's extremely well done. And yeah, the calls the remarkable thing about this this this group and the Indianapolis Colts right now and the all the credit in the world or their general manager Chris Ballard, you can talk about them forever. Their offensive line their running game their defense before you get to Andrew luck right now. It's playing as well as any quarterback in the league. I liked him this weekend. And that's extremely well. Done on the trustee ipad. All right coming up with the top two MVP candidates making their case head to head Janas in hardened could both come up big with only one could get the win the highlights top of the hour. Get up on ESPN. Back to like candy. You're gonna love this Jay Williams, you in particular as a Dookie are going to love this. You know, what it means when you slap the floor. If he's ready to play some defense Laka Kelly Oubre, I is going to do that. He's gonna slap the poor. He wants Luca Dandridge. And once what look Don-Shik does right in his face. No more. The floor. You got a lock Kelly. Come on, man. How good is tell you. I appreciate that. 'cause I stopped floor all the time with no, no tendency at all. I'll just were aesthetics that kid to something. And I want you to watch Damian Lillard just changes mind in mid air. He's gonna get no he's not. Ooh. Look at this. Look at this old will that that's a jellyfish jellyfish strong hand. With that leg of Michael Jordan in the finals, when he switched to the left pane, cages, his mind and made air and. Rising. No Bangor elevate. Any did it in the final? Anyway, think Tom Brady is out of the elite quarterback conversation. Dan, Orlovsky says you're making a huge mistake. It will explain as we continue.

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Week's Best: (LeBron's Lakers, Chris Bosh interview, Celtics, Brady, Kyler Murray)

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Week's Best: (LeBron's Lakers, Chris Bosh interview, Celtics, Brady, Kyler Murray)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip, Shannon. Let's go. Lebron is basically done everything you can do in the NBA, including winning MVP awards and three championships. But according to the ethnic he has his sights on one more thing owning a team. Lebron was asked about it recently and said, quote, ain't no maybe about it. I'm going to do that bleep. Lebron would become only the second former NBA player to own a team joining Michael Jordan robbery think LeBron be good at running a team in the ownership role. Lebron has done a lot of things off the court and had a lot of success. I'm not so sure sometimes when you're like a great player, I think everybody automatically assumed you're going to be able to master. The business that you played in. So I'm not positive because you can look at Michael Jordan. Who was a great player? But was he a great evaluator of talent? When he was GM before he even had ownership, and when he was in Washington. So no, I don't think LeBron. Lebron right now is the worst GM in the NBA because if you go back to Cleveland, you'll look. Coupla? Greg look at Shearson tops and JR Smith someone else bad deals that he worked to Cleveland people into. So I'm not convinced lebrons going to beat this. Great owner. I think if he may be get some help because think about this. There's only been four I think it's four Chris former players will wanna championship as a player and as an executive in GM role in NBA history. So it's very hard. It doesn't happen that often. So I'm not so sure that LeBron will be able to even be better than Michael in the situation of being an owner, and maybe winning a championship. Not surprising. He said if I mean, we've known for years that he wants eventually own NBA team and easy said in the past maybe an NFL team as well. I actually think there's just pure speculation. Not from any by telling me, I think there may be a wink wink deal between him and Dan Gilbert. The owner of the Cavaliers when they talked and LeBron agreed to go back to Cleveland. And I really think the Cavs are probably the number one team that I'd rank as far as chances of him owning them as far as whether you'd be good. First of all, I think it'd be great because he's an African America, we need more minority racial minorities. Owning teams we got Michael Jordan in the NBA. I know they always get high ranks for diversity and all that. But as you go up in the front offices is not as diverse as it should be the way it used to be used to be more diverse as worst war. It's gotten worse with the analytics and people focusing on that and using as an excuse not to hire ex players and stuff. So I think that would be great it shouldn't just take a minority owner, so hire more my Noritake who are qualified. However, having another one, I think would be great look LeBron's businesses. He LeBron is obviously a smart guy. But he doesn't know about all. These different businesses has going on. But he's hires the right people to run them and they're doing well. So I think there you can say he would do that. But obviously is a basketball guy. So he may want to be a meddling owner. And I do tend to agree rob as we know he knows the game. We know he's one of the smartest players we've seen. But I don't think he's been the best at trying to put together teams or I mean, he he did have a say in. Let's go get some defenders and some grinders and some playmakers, and you know, we can't out shoot Golden State. So it's not really worry about that. You know, what if people run away go get shows to report shooters it, right? The first thing people's, but look is that wrong would be in a meddling owner. That's the benefit of being an owner Mark Cuban's Medellin owner Jerry Jones of meddling odor. So if at worst if he's one of those guys that's really into it. And either the face of the franchise there's no problem with that. I definitely think he would be successful. I think is great. I love. He came out and said, absolutely. There's no question. It's not even the question. And I don't think anyone doubted that this was even the something that it was on his radar with everything else that he's doing. But we talk about him configuring teams the teams that he configured it's because he's owned the team like this wouldn't be him being on the team. So the personnel would look different. You talk about the Tristan Thompson deals and all that Jay that deals. Did he go to the to the table and say this is what he wants? Laos on. Chris you noted wanted them sign wanted to sign one of them signed that he make their numbers up in the year. Con did he draw their contracts? You're trying to say under say did he no he didn't think he went to ownership, and it was like, no they understood there. They had the same agent as the break you, and I don't think he set out another same with the numbers, Greg. But but some rally little about it look at some of the team when they made the trade last year. Oh, lebrons. We stock and energize. He got all the players want. When they brought into Wayne way to come in last year for Miami mellow nine wanted once mental Dwayne which was what we understand who this would be him being removed from playing and then making personnel decisions or meddling as you put it. I think he would be good at that. And stop we immediately. The first thing you do would compare them to Michael Jordan. Well, only car saying. You do because gray players oftentimes like trying to be coaches. They don't seem that they can they can be a great coach. After being a great player. Very few. I'm not saying it's never happened. But very few great players, makeweight coaches and the same thing you can look at Michael Jordan and say, wait a minute. Didn't you draft Kwame Brown someone draft choices? This is Michael who's the shooter Adam Morrison more he draft an atom more always going to be the next Larry Bird. These are the goose and bad picks that Michael Jordan, one of the greatest players just because you're great doesn't mean I can identify somebody who's great. I understand all all them today understand all of that. But those were Michael Jordan decisions. Those were his aim for looking at what LeBron has done to this point. I'm saying what you mean? You mean, the three titles that he's been able to win the sixth that he's law in even there nine times, I will say this, and I pointed out some of his. Bad decisions. He had a hand in putting together that Miami team to that one to champions laws is sit down and put an and he went out and got these veteran shooters around them. So they want to championships should they want? He said they were going. Hey, not to three. Not six your that. You do you. Remember them moment. I do and they want to auto four, and they will one lucky of Ray Allen three away from being what in three and a one year. They want us automatic the problem because he is LeBron James and because hundreds territory, it comes with the territory, and our expectation immediately goes completely up if this were. Some random player that was on the bench that didn't get a lot of time. And and he was able to move up the ran on the team, we wouldn't even be putting this pressure on disingenuous from this from this point, Lou Brandon take that Mike and go not to not do enough for because he didn't believe it. He believed what he put together that super team that nobody would be able to beat them with that. There's no doubt about. So when you do that. And you ways the expectations three guys all young all in their primes all coming together. Former team there's no way to people and think that they have owning a team. All owning the team. He's not that dumb to believe that. Oh, if I own a team, we're not gonna ever lose put together roster that we're going to be in the finals every year, we're going to be competing competitive every single year is he's going to have growing pains. Like everyone else until he gets it right and put pieces in place that can make those decisions. To where the personnel is what's needed ineffective? He would be better than many of the owners in the NBA and NFL right away. Because there's a lot of bad owners out there. The interesting thing would be to me does his mentality. How does it change if at all because right now, he's very pro player? He's vice president of the players association. He's all about player movement and players having just as much power in their destiny, as you know, the the owners in the GM's and all that and getting as much money as you can when you become an owner. This is capitalism that is a whole different thing would your mentality shift more because now you see the other side of as an owner. So if he had a player like himself who wants to get involved and do all these things would he be with that? And it would be really interesting other bad part. He can't get anybody to come play with them. Now. So imagine once he owns a team you won't be able to get anybody to come play forest. Rob. Cricket. If I'm LeBron I'm gonna retire go by vineyard put in a basketball war on any it's stress. It's more work. He's made enough money. He's got a beautiful family like living up my days on the vineyard sipping some while. She put up some shots when I feel like it. No, you can you can be that type of owner actually that might be better. How to write able and go Choo? He's not going to be type and watch the rings accumulate. That you are isn't just about one super sized football game on Spotify. There's thousands of free sports podcasts. That agonize over the pre-seasons off seasons and plain old regular seasons of nearly every sport, imaginable, basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, curling, and even hurling. Yeah. That's a real sport. Look it up. Now. It's so easy to stay updated with the latest trade. Rumors predictions and scorching hot takes from some of your favorite games. Biggest names so take it one episode at a time and give one hundred ten percent of your tension to the thousands of free sports podcasts on Spotify. Because the best offense is a good podcast. The thunder lost last night to the pelicans. But that doesn't take away that they're still red hot heading into the all star break. Russell Westbrook caddies eleventh straight game with a triple double. And most believe he's not even the MVP of his own team. As Paul George has been on an even bigger tear. Okay. See is one eleven out of their last thirteen games there. The third seed in the west four games behind the warriors. So we are joined now in the studio by Jason McIntyre. Good to be back with Jason. It's good to having here. Who do you think that the warriors should fear in the Western Conference? I I think the thunder of the popular answer. Right. Everybody remembers what they last saw Crispus Sards now loving Paul George for the MVP. Russell westbrook. Triple doubles. It's got to be the thunder. No, jamie. I'm gonna go with the team currently not in the playoffs. But with a superstar who's been there a couple times his name is LeBron James. And I believe right now. The Lakers are the biggest threat to the warriors. It's easy to say. Nobody's touching the warriors. But the Lakers, Jamie. I keep coming back to this. Okay. Christmas night. Fully healthy Rondo Lonzo, LeBron smoke the warriors by belief twenty six points. Speaking of smoking. I. No, no smoking this morning one regular season. Hey, listen, who knows the Golden State Warriors best in the west? There's one guy. Lebron James he's faced them in the finals. Multiple. Tommy John's took down the seventy three win warriors. Rob you may recall that if this team is healthy Jamie come the play offs lonzo's back. Remember, Reggie Bullock is starting for them. He's living out of a suitcase. He just got traded to the Lakers. I believe with what twenty five gains leading into the playoffs. I think the Lakers will be healthy. And ready to be the only team that could possibly take down the words. It's a long shot. But I think the warriors should fear. The lakers. This is not visual fear of any gradient head west gotta be the Lakers. Lebron James this is this is your fantasy or for this is where you become the fan that you are. And something that you wish you would see, but it's not based on anything. It can't be based on a Christmas day game. A granted they played well, and they won that Gail. We're talking about. Four out of seven and talking about LeBron James were better players in the last two finals only won one game against the warriors. And now they have boogie cousins. Would you add into that? So I just this whole notion. I like, okay, see better. And granted I expect the Golden State to win again because they have all the ammo. But I would look at Paul Georgia's haven't his greatest season. I mean, he decided to stay. It's worked out. Everybody said that Russell was work. Well, ran Kevin Durant off and what he's also adapted to to make Georgia Paul George feel better and and fit in better. So I like them. I also liked the way that they've played they're seventeen thirteen on the road all of all the boxes against teams over five hundred fifteen and ten to twenty one and fifteen against the west when I look at the opponents, not just much ING on bad teams and piling up wins beating. A good teams. And then when you look in the west to just don't believe in Houston. Because of what harden has to do Chris Paul where he is in the injuries. I don't think they're going to be able to beat at team they were year ago and Denver for all the good that they've done this year. I just there's not enough body of work for me to believe that they're going to make that run atom. So I would go for okay? See for those reasons for me. I got the rockets you wrong. It's yeah. I do. You laugh. What would what would the rockets up on the warriors last year in the playoff up three two and any game seven they were leading by ten at halftime at home. And then they joked they have experienced with with the warriors. They are seven and five against the war is in the last two years including the playoffs in and we have to keep in mind. Chris Paul got injured in those playoff. Now. They have different team no reason anymore in impacts them. But they have acquired a Iman Shumpert who fits well with what they're trying to get done PJ Tucker guys who can shoot heir, Gordon, you gotta have firepower with when you're going up against the warriors. You have to be able to go blow for blow in when I look at their their roster and how it's configured they can go blow for blow. We all know what James harden his capable of doing? We all know, Chris, Paul. These guys are guys who haven't won who still have that hunger in that design at birth. It's to win. And they understand we they believe that we can beat this team. 'cause we were close doing it last year. We didn't get it done. But we can get this team because we can go blow for blow. They you talk about good wins. The rockets beat the warriors this year without Quinn cappella without Chris Paul in the Lakers. They had one great win against the warriors into four-game winning series. Like you have to win four times can the Lakers do that for times. I don't think they can I I don't think anybody can. But I think the Lakers much better suited than the rockets. Bussard at your turn come on. I haven't heard. Who one? The over furious. James harden? Are you waiting for him to choke again in the play? No, I'm not waiting show spent I'm not waiting just six hundred times so much more. Always he has more than he has more help. None of these guys in my opinion. Fear the warriors because they feel like we I match up. Great against these read. You're right. Yeah. I do I do. And so when I look at this and how you have to be able to match up with the wars. You gotta be able to go blow for blow the rockets had they tailed off from on the defensive side. Yes, they have. But can they clampdown clink Kabila gives back? I believe they we got underway gun used to make some good points. I mean like you said they had him beat last year. Those guys are hungry. The problems I have with using our the defensively last year. They were six best defense in the league this year. They're really low Chris Paul. I just can't can't count on him being healthy. He may not be healthy at the start of the playoffs. And to be honest since he's gotten back. They fall. Fallen off a little bit. I think part of that's because they have a challenge now in that. Are we going to keep playing this completely James harden Centric offense or start working C P three in? And I think there's this whole since there was so successful winning doing. So why would you go away? Now, they're losing. I know we'll see but in hard and might be fatigued. And and not to mention the struggles had in the playoffs two year. I looked at Oklahoma City. I like what they have. But I look at them too. And I look at their two stars. And both of them have had major struggles at the clutch moments. I mean last year game six against Utah deciding game Paul George goes to for sixteen. I know he's playing much better this year, but still five points was I play playoff three shots at night. Well, not only that in the last two games. Five at sixty took a total of eighty two. And then you go back. Go back to twenty sixteen in the last three games that they lost to Golden State Westbrook shot thirty seven percent. So both Paul and Russell have got approve it, the only one, and I'm not saying I have a great shot. I'm just saying the only one that knows he can be or has beaten Golden State is LeBron. James now, if they get the AC, which is most likely they go out and four quick game. Five would probably be a miracle. But that'd be the max. But just because if they get to the playoffs they're probably playing fairly. Well, they wanna switch everything. And if they're healthy they've got personnel that can do that if they're healthy. And they got some tough physical guys that can try to get defensive with the warriors and stuff like that. I'm not saying they would have a chance to beat him. I'm just saying none of these seems like against the warriors. But the fact that LeBron is a proven playoff player and okay see Houston their stars on lately. As far as if I had to a gun to my head. If I'd the pick one team to that would be Golden State. I I go back to it would be the Lakers and warriors in the first round. The Lakers would get swept you probably. I think that like, okay. So Houston takes them six. I mean, nobody can be. If you ask me what team I like better against the warriors. I'm gonna say to like let me go to this. This is what I don't understand though, you're saying you like the Lakers better. But if they face them in the first run sweat. They could beat them. No you. What you sense, Chris? You don't think they'll even think Houston beetle? The question who can no zero here. Fear. I'm going stay shouldn't fear. Lebron and LeBron. They can they see on the they have the fire. I'm not saying, okay. See, but Houston has the firepower to Tatum right now too. Bring. The legs. Don't look like right now right now, that's the thing. Would you say right now we're projecting. One man show. That's a one man show last year. At least they were to Manso. So on his West Point, you guys to remember the Westbrook Durant party was ugly. Every time they play Westbrook's pointing chirping Durant. It's not totally personal. But in a playoff series, Westbrook's going to try to get his and that's where it recalls a little. Because. Join. Still got dumped by her boyfriend. Still scorned angry. He's mad at Kevin Durant. How much experience does a coups having the playoffs. None never one Spears's. Lonzo ball having to play LeBron on their entire team combines they'll be ready to go down to hold on playoff. Rondo. Layoff laying them so Monday. And I'm van Rondos going to be playing a lot. Understood L Madonna to the difference. He may with New Orleans last year. Of course, Ondo be with Anthony day. Don't. No, he doubted the New England Patriots throughout world season. Patriots made you look bad. Don't do it again image. What do you mean? Don't fall for the same trap with LeBron. The Lakers don't count him out. Okay. Rob don't do it. You count it out. The patriots. You got your Email then? The not. Back to the NBA. Paul George scored twenty eight points in last night's loss to the pelicans. But he is still having a career year. George is second in the league with nearly twenty nine points a game and oddsmakers have him trailing. Only James harden and the Greek freak in the MVP race. Russell Westbrook endorsed his teammates saying this week quote. He's definitely the front runner for my MVP. All right. Are you buying Paul George as the MVP great? I am. I love everything that Paul George is done even from from the standpoint of him deciding to go back to okay, see is started for me right in there that let me know he was going to have to shift his way of thinking in his positioning on that team. In Russell, Westbrook has complied. He has fallen back. It took them a little bit to do it. But he's fallen back and taking the back too. Paul George specifically on offense of in in Paul George has thrived. He's thrive. Not only because Russell Westbrook is allowed him to. But he's more aggressive. He is he's back to that Paul George that we were all talking about when he was with the Pacers. And he was up up and coming and he was challenging LeBron James as being arguably one of the better guys in the east to dethrone him. I like what Paul George's from wins in law standpoint, they won forty eight games last year. They finished fourth in the Western Conference. This. They're already third in the Western Conference. They already one thirty seven games. I think they can get up to fifty wins this year if they can get to that first place spot in the west no-change. I you know, I said if they can get if they can get to that first place. It'll be hard not to say Paul George is the VP of the NBA. Look, I'll give you that. If okay see overtakes Golden State in. He may very well win. It look if the Lakers get the number ones the LeBron. If bigger that one is colossal what you said about Paul, George is right. He is tremendous ease better than he was in Indiana as good as he was remember he was battling LeBron James and knows playoff series when the Brown was in Miami. So he was great then, but he is taking it up another level. I have in third right now and his story. I am an official voter historically. On. We'll just because you know. I've okay. Do I just found in opinion? But. It it typically when you are when you don't have another star or superstar with you that helps you and what could hurt Paul George compared to Jaanus. Or James harden is that Chris Paul's definitely a star. He's been out so much that harden is essentially viewed as doing it by himself Jaanus doing it by myself, even though Chris Nuttal to made the all star team in part because their record. So he's a really good player. But he's not viewed as a perennial all-star anything second round pick who's right, right? So that will help because look historically LeBron benefited from that when he was in Cleveland early on by himself Derrick rose benefited from that where he won the MVP. A lotta guys have Westbrook. When you wanna tripled other double another thing with so Paul, George? I got him third James harden who up until maybe a week or two ago. I had number one. They have come back to earth. He during that early. In his thirty point game streak, which is to thirty one. Which is incredible. He was they were winning in a high clip at one point. I think maybe sixteen and five fifteen and six something like that. They've now won eleven of their last twenty so dairy Levin and nine now, they're the fifth seed in the west they're on a forty seven wind pace since nineteen eighty two only one player has won the MVP award without winning fifty games. And that was Russell Westbrook who averaged a triple double. And that's only reason he got it was because he did something historic. Now harden is doing something historic. But it's not like he breaking wilt chamberlain's record. Right. So I don't think that he's going to get that not unless they go on another winning streak. That's what they have to do. So right now right now don't hold me to this. Because there's a lot of basketball left to be played. But right now, I would say Janas who I had earlier in the year. He's averaging twenty seven and thirteen board, six assists. They got the best record in the league. Best road record in the league. League. He's a top defenders fifteenth in the league in defensive real plus minus which gives him a huge boost over hard news. Not a good defender. So right now, we'll go with Johnson in Milwaukee goal. Good points, both guys, and I love Paul George Alah and what he's doing. And just imagine if magic and them would of in and gotten Paul George to come to Los Angeles. What he would be doing. And where they would be that. Ultimately, always say, Chris that's going to be the reason that LeBron didn't win a championship in Los an-. That's a great point. Because that would also have been able to keep young core of and not have to. What they will county on. But that's much better than Tom Brady take. But then that's not that's really really when you look back at it. But I'm gonna go with hard only from this temple this season was on the brink. And I know that they've cooled off a little bit. But their season was on the brink. And they were like people were looking going. They're not gonna make the playoffs. This is how bad the rockets word. It was so bad and the injuries and Chris Paul and cappella, and they went on that twenty twenty one and nine during that thirty game streak, and I know what is thirty one now. But they went on a streak. Yes. Does he need another streak to finish off and finish up strong? And if he can do that, and they position themselves in a top four, then I will look at it and go this guy, basically did it. And now, Chris Paul may be gets healthier and can add more Cappello is healthier and adds more. And now they're rubbing as a closer to the end of the season. And ready. To make that move. But without horn without what he was able to do they wouldn't even be in position to even do that. That's how strong he was what he was a one man band and every team every night new. They only have hard, and he still beat people. That's what lead state. You know what I mean? Right. You remember that comeback winter? That was unbelievable that night. They they we're going to get berry, and they came back and James harden was here. Chris's point what he's saying about James harden? Their record is starting to slow. I'm saying he has to have a strong finish. And if to able to have that and he's a big part of that. He will he's he's going to be the main part right now. It's not you don't have him. No, no. He's slipping a little bit. But right now who out James Hodge still right now what is slipping I'm not going to act like not because his play. But just put the team winning. Chris Bosh was here this week. And he was saying he was on. He said Yang type breaker. I think he just wanted to change something I think. To talk about the heat is. Hey, guys, Jenny Taft here. With a quick word about Robin Hood, Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ATF's options and cryptos all commission free. 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Foxsports insider Jake laser predicted this week that Odell Beckham junior would get traded this off season. But according to s and why that would be a mistake. Route on says the giants would be much worse if they trade Beckham calling OB J not only a top five receiver in the game. But maybe tough I player period in the NFL. The giants went one and three in the final game of the season. When Beckham was with an injury. So we're joined again here in the studio by Jason McIntyre. Those say anything crazy about my. I'm almost close to call. Jason wacko time. Got nice. Receivers right now. Do you think the giant should move on from Odell? I do. I do Jay sorry. I know you're big giants fan. You know? It's funny before the playoffs. Everybody looked and said, you know, the five highest paid quarterbacks none of the made the postseason, and nobody looked at the wide receivers of the top five wide receivers highest paid guys. One of them made the playoffs. Okay. I know Jennings. Wow. I'm about to tell you Greg Jennings. A great wide receiver. We were watching his Super Bowl highlights together. One time in the dressing room. Guys, a superstar I love wide receivers. They're important. Julia nettleton fifty third highest paid wise lower in the league. He was the end now now super. He can't carry Beckham sneakers. Zo Dell Bevin new is too expensive. And there's a reason that nobody in the giants organization. Jamie has come out and said not true keeping Odell because they're looking ship about a town. This is a guy phenomenal player. His teammates love him. They do not need to spend eleven percent of their salary cap on Odell Beckham, it's just not attainable. And Greg I believe that the forty Niners will be in play several teams you do not need to pay del Beckham. They can build around saquon Barkley, which is what the GM Dave Gettleman. Does he did it in Carolina when he ship Steve Smith outta town two years later behind ground game? They were in the Super Bowl they went. They did not they offer Super Bowl to the Broncos. I think they should trade Odell Beckham if you're saying solely because he makes so much money. That's a different that's different situation. He's earned that money. So I mean, and they decided to pay him that he earns that that's what he gets. But they are not better without Odio Beckham. They. Need Odell Beckham on the field? Specifically offense of let's just keep it on one side of the ball. And I'm used one Chris I'm gonna give you some facts with Odal Beckham on the field, the twenty one and twenty six not a great team without him there. Six and fifteen they're terrible team when you look at ally manning and his numbers in his with Odell with without odeal. Like, let's let's look at this before OBI J fifty eight percent completion percentage with OB. Jay. He's sixty seven percent without without him in passing only average about two hundred and thirty yards with him. He's thirty yards better to sixty touchdowns. It's ridiculous to forty one one seventy nine touchdown interception ratio without a with. That's without. Oh Bill with Odell one thirty two to sixty nine. Like these numbers. Don't. Oh, del Beckham makes ally manning and that offense a lot better. There is no way around it. There's I don't care. What argument you pose just because he's his numbers have allowed him to earn the money that he's making you want to say, oh, we're they pay him too much money. Ship him out. That's a whole nother conversation. If you're saying, you know, because they're spending too much money, and he's taking too much of the cat. Then you should look to move him. But to say that they they don't need him there better without him. That is absolutely false just to recap there under five hundred with him. And without yes. Because it's still a team right team game. I'm not saying that he changes the game, and he can do everything because you still need offense of line. You still need to defense to stop somebody either. They'll need a quarterback that can get you. I'm sorry, Jamie. You studying the quarterback and get him the ball. It's so that he stuff so get him out. Get get guys. In their pay them twenty right on the money. Just stop it. Look like, you said if they want to trade him for financial reasons, that's one thing. They signed him knew everything you said they knew when they signed into that big deal. And Dave Gettleman has come out time and time again hit he signed him to trade. Yes. All right. You knew the situation. He's the only thing keeping alive manning on serviceable, and you gave the numbers which was great. We saw the difference that a great receiver can make in Dallas without Amari Cooper, Dak Prescott low. Laurie Cooper, look great. When they what the giants need to be focused on is getting another quarterback and its allies starts to your fine. But you gotta get the guy for two years from now at least if not this year, and that guy whether the way Haskins Cuyler Murray or somebody else he will be much better. If he's got OB J there and have a back a running back like saquon Barkley if you get a really. Good quarterback in there. Now, you've got something on the offense side of the ball. Don't blame their poor record or obe- Jay because no receiver. No matter. How good can totally turn the team around to Cowboys examples. Perfect because you said they have an offensive line. And they have a defense defense was top ten. The giants have neither of those Chris rating. Jay is on what he's. What he's cap room to go after a mouse. We what you're saying. Basically saying is if you're a great player, you just don't take a lot of no not say. Vigil. Who think Cooper's going to say taking up eleven percent of the Cowboys cap, Greg. Not yet. A we'll see what how is that jas thing. They knew when they sat down and made the contract what it wants to be able to hold onto a playoff his caliber. Greg is right. He's earned that to give it to because they liked him nine because they looked at everything. And the other thing I hit for he keeps getting her. Really? He is. He is a great doubt about and you need to stop this whole money thing that you always wanna tach the people. So when things go bad, you look go well because he makes too much money. And if they do well nobody ever brings up right? It's all the it's a knee jerk reaction. Just because things you're not looking at the entire giants roster and saying he lies bad. The defense is is other things. But. Jay, that's not the reason taking up a low of their salary cap. He's making twenty million dollars. I. Well, no. They couldn't they couldn't do this make the play. They'll just started making this money. Yes, they couldn't they couldn't make moves before. Then if you remember last year, Adam shift had a report Odell Beckham will be traded before the draft. They toyed with this idea last year, then they didn't trade him. Now. Here we are again Jay Glazer with the rumors time to train Dell. I'm telling you look at Gettleman the GM look at his history. Okay. He goes to Carolina after one year ship Steve Smith out of town, the great receiver. Okay. See Smith was angry two years later with a ground game. They were second in the league in rushing. They go to the next year. What worded while they were tense, ity, whatever I may come on. Seventy a roller coaster opened. NFL to even since then, you know, it's a little bit different. Now, sixty seven years old Gettleman old school turned sixty eight later this month, he is old school. He's defense and running. That's what he wants to do. Okay. Then the giant on the giants better without Odell Beckham. I gotta see what they do with the money science better without odeal Beckham. I think they can be. Yes. Think better. I'm foul line rather build around saquon Barkley, the no don't gay three non answer. So. That's say Barkley outplays this contract, right? And he's taking. How about this point is taking up a drafted a young quarterback acid back wouldn't be taking that would have done that. I agree with you. I don't think he li-, man. But let's put it on OB. Jay, I'm not putting it on him. Twenty million when you don't have a defense and offense of light go. Let's think about where del might fit in because there's been some rumors out there already of different teams. What do you think did for him to look at the Cleveland Browns? Okay. They've got a quarterback on the rookie deal. His best, buddy. Jervis Landry from LSU is on Cleveland. This is a team that has I think the second most third most salary cap room after the Colton jets. They can afford Odell you got Odell Nick job Kareem hunt. Jarvis Landry Baker Mayfield. That's an awesome all under twenty eight years ago. Give giant draft picks. They got a ton of draft picks give offense of lineman. Maybe the giants bite Cleveland thirty three to one to win the Super Bowl. Now just saying if they can get Beckham that team to do some damage. I mean, I don't I. Almost that. Why is that why you weren't aborted, orange invasion? Clemmie? Honestly, I think he would fit in anywhere. They need a receipt. Like the dude is fantastic. I get the color colorful personality. But like you say yesterday he didn't have that many off the court field issues this season. No. And it's about his talent. I just think people get caught up on money. And so every time something goes wrong. They just go straight to that. Oh, he's the prom because he takes up so much somebody's gonna make people making money. Nobody was saying what he lies makes a ton of money. He probably should have been one of zoo that you know, why? Because you still need a quarterback better. Giants again smoke it. What did you do before you came in here? You know, in football when these when these general managers have these players on this contract, they they know that guys can potentially get hurt in not play. So they offer them, right? Did you know that? Unbelievable. Stop and buying breaking hearts and just I hate to do this Jennings. Is a great human being. Jason. Thanks bye. Con capper. Nick reportedly was offered a chance to play football again. We'll discuss that one. The athletic reports. The alliance of American football reached out to Cohen capper Nick to join their new league. But according to the Associated Press cabinet asked for at least twenty million dollars to play. The problem is af players only get three year two hundred fifty thousand dollar non guaranteed contracts. Capper Nick hasn't played an NFL game since two thousand sixteen rub begin here. What's your reaction to this? I don't blame them. I would ask for twenty or twenty five million two. They need him more than he needs of this minor league upstart football league. And that's what they were trying to cash in on you know, like to use him because he had he saw with that league. First of all everybody in America. Would know what the league was and was about number two. His first game back would probably have rating student roof for CBS and put this thing on the map. So I don't care what. They were paying the other guys. And maybe he really. Never really considered playing there. 'cause it's almost a lose lose. If he goes there and balls out. Everybody's gonna say you're playing against has been never was. So that don't mean anything, and if he and if he doesn't play well, see, we told you he can't play no war. So there was nothing there for him. Really? It's all about the alliance. They're the ones who were trying to make a name off of him and use him. It's the same reason why they reached out Tim Tibo. They noted that guy moves the needle and fans going to be like, oh, Tim team O fun to get to see him play football again, or whatever. So I'm not surprised aquarium out of money. I would have done the same. Exactly. 'cause they're run by social Justice warriors. No. That's not the reason. No. Yeah. This was I have no problem with this. And with capper Nick denying playing in the league because there is no win for him. Him if he plays. Well is guaranteed that. Now, he's going to get another opportunity in the national Noli. No in. That's awesome. What he would be playing four. It's not just about the money with Colin Kaepernick he wants to prove that I didn't deserve to be just pushed out of the National Football League. And now you wanna downgrade me to playing in this league that nobody knows about. But if I play everybody will watch just to. Yes, literally depict any and everything that I do know. I'm not going to give you that. Right. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation. I could get injured, and then it's like up he was out of shape. He wasn't ready to play or everything looks negative. If he's everything will be negative for him. There's no pros. There's no added incentive for him to play in this league unless they were to give him the money that he's requesting because he understands what he's going to provide. For that. Because he even if he plays. Well, if he is the best thing that we've seen in a long time. I still don't think he gets shot at playing an NFL. He will have a greater case. But he has to go through this process where he feels like look I shouldn't have to do this. Anyway, I was in this league. And if I'm not good enough to play in this league. Then let me prove it capper. Nick, did what you do when you're free when you're free of what people think about you and people's perception, and then financially you're free to do. What you wanna do? He wielded his leverage, okay. Eve making thirty million dollars from Nike. So guess what? I'm not desperate. I don't need the NFL or the certainly not the af. And that's what he did. Now, if he was really thinking may like if it was about value, and I don't know you might be right. Maybe never considered it. Or maybe you know, he would do it for twenty million. If it's about the value. I bring to that league which he would bring a ton. I have no idea what their financial situation is. You told us with average player makes about seventy five grand. I think for the average player, but they gotta CBS deal. So you know, that's a pretty good deal. They're not on like, some remote cable channel that. Nobody knows about. I could've seen him maybe asking for five or ten million up front, and then a percentage of the jersey sales percentage of the bump that you get on television from my presence. I seen all that. But I'm fine with him going twenty million. I just have no idea if that's feasible for this league, or whatever what I don't want to hear is. Oh, see he does this proves. He doesn't wanna play. He is a of the freaking af I'm sorry. It's a minor league. Carmelo Anthony is dying to play basketball dying to get on a team. But he's going to go to the G league. No, he's above that, Colin cabinet above. And you were right on the money. He could go dance. Six touchdowns again. It would. NFL? It's not about his talent. No, he's not not in the NFL. Because people think he can't play their signing. Nathan peterman. All these dudes with the Redskins. They has nothing to do with his ability. This is all about the stance. He is taken and the feeling on the part of these owners that he started because you've got Eric Reed and other players that have Neil. But they feel like he started. They're trying to punish him and he's not going along with it. So I'm fine with what he did. He did the right thing and not just like people would want. Well, go ahead and play show us approved Couva to us. He doesn't have to do. This guy went to the Super Bowl. We've seen record. We've seen his play. He deserves a spot in the NFL. Everybody knows that. So this is Greg to your point if it's not going to alter anything. So that's why you ask for something. So ridiculous because they give it they give it to you might consider it like, wait a minute. I asked. Twenty million said, okay, right? A minute. Maybe I will play a couple of games. You know what I mean? But you wouldn't do what he's a smart, man. And it is about where he belonged which is the NFL not some off-shoot minor league plan against guys. We don't even know what if they call not saying he's bluffing. But let's say, okay, we're gonna give you twenty million to take in its own him that he's going to have to a lot of if he's if he's gonna do it for the reasons of you know, what I'll take that money and I'll play and I'll do that then. Okay. But if he's doing it because he feels like it's going to advance his opportunity or chances to get in the National Football League. He's smarter than that. He knows that. That's not the case in for me. When for fans out there that think that will call capper Knicks shouldn't be in the National Football League. Or he is not one of the top thirty two not even saying he doesn't have to be one of the best the top thirty two quarterbacks in the league. But there's thirty two. Backups. Hold a clipboard here nearly back in. So there's this opportunity that he knows he doesn't even have like he just get taken away from him. And I'm not saying that what he did. I agree with it. All but what he did it. Did it wasn't deserving of this? It wasn't deserving of this for him to now say, you know, what I'll plan this af like I'll settle. That's no, no. And again, the good thing is he doesn't have to because at some point everybody needs money, but he's got money because of the Nike deal and obviously made money before. So that's a great position to be in. So he can make it is a in. No that you know that league's not dumb. They know. No to going. He's a lightning rod, and no doubt among mind, if he played a game on CBS or one of those on built it up and everybody knew the numbers would be through the roof because people wanna peek in into see Colin capper, Nick, what it meant what the crowd was like, do, you know, what people wearing cap, Nick jerseys too. So I think they understand that and still I'm not always short at the NFL really has understood like what they've done that spurred people the other way, you know, what I mean by not letting capture Nick eight look, I agree with capper, Nick, I'm on his side. But look the NFL there's some people that our guest them the NFL for it. But some people that are form. So it's just everybody's not against them. Because the cabinet they do not everybody. But I'm saying there are people not watching and whether or not people want to believe and if he were to. Entertain this. Let's just hypothetical. He entertains this the rules of this league is different like didn't up right. There have protecting the quarterback like they do cO ball. You're you have a greater risk of sustaining injury a lot quicker than you do play in the National Football League, in my opinion. And he might be a target to somebody. Let me make a name off a Colin cabinet all ailing him. So that's smart. What you know, what if they offer me seventy five million? Real is their price if they offered a certain amount. No, I'm with there's always, right? I don't have that number in my head. But if they came that high, right? Thank you for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Jenny Taft. 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Hour 1 - Tony Dungy (03-23-20)

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Hour 1 - Tony Dungy (03-23-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts survivor. Season Forty is here with twenty past champions returning for winners at war survivor. Fans know that this is the best survivor season in years. We're breaking it. All down after each episode on Rob has a podcast. I'm two-time survivor. Rob Sister host of high caste. And we've got recaps interviews with your favourite former players and community of survivor fans from all around the world so come check out. Rob Has a podcast on apple podcasts. Spotify just one APP or wherever you get your podcast broadcasting from the Mercedes men. This is Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program. Miss Monday our one. Dan and the DANETTES. Dan Patrick Show. Hope you're sharing. Well boy was glad to get out of the house. I was sequestered. I was doing jobs. My wife was ready to kill me and then she couldn't wait. How many hours is it before you get to go back to work? And we reduced the staff in here by about half the Danettes aside from pauly or on location at their homes but also some of the backroom guys sent them home as well. But we still want to be able to bring this show to you every single day. And that's the goal mediocrity continues. But if you're watching on YouTube dot com slash the Dan Patrick. Show fritzy his in his. Is that a den. Is that a living room. It's a Home Office. Says I'm looking out to some light snow falling in the backyard. I got all my asteroid Bronco knickknacks grammy minimal. I'm assured on where. Where did you get those awards? Sportscenter Emmy Awards. I had to pay a lot of money for them to include we. When did you work on Sports Center? I worked on sportscenter from like two thousand to two as I said about four or five years while I was also doing stuff with you and he. Spf News. And I didn't know. Listen four quarters. I didn't know you worked on sportscenter. Yeah they had me a book and you and I thought I was doing all the bookings sportscenter back then did you. Didn't they make you pay for your sports? Emmy absolutely also had a lobby to include me. Get anyone Seton is Is that a den. Yeah in my House. We call it the music room just because that's where all my guitar. Czar so yeah. That's my son's piano is right over there and get all turntable and a bar right over here so it's It's a good spot and mclovin. You have the most people in the smallest amount of space in your apartment in Brooklyn yes. I've put a patriots blanket behind me so you can't see my kids if they come back and forth the reflection in the picture that you had their exactly but also I had to move spotify's Brooklyn Jack Hammering Construction's going on who knows what's GonNa Happen here. It's all right. Well we're we're glad to have everybody and Paulie of courses here about fifteen feet away from me but I'm protected by glass here but it's you got your wish. Bali has just me. Yeah let's have fine. Yeah so let me run down the guest list here in its best and worst of the weekend. We're GONNA try to continue businesses normal here. We do start meet madness today in. It's a two week voting period four the opening round. Nothing will stand in the way of meat madness. You guys are going to vote on. Who Advances to week voting period just for the opening round? So just keep that in mind and you can go on the website. You're going to be able to vote. Mario is going to be able to tabulate that. And then you'll decide who moves on with traeger meet madness and the winner will win a traeger grill. Yeah Paulie Mara. Spent all weekend in the past couple weeks going through the meat. Nana's socks but remember when it started. It was just like a couple songs videos. We are little meat club on Friday. We decided to make wings and last year like at first. Three or four people send in songs a year and a half AGO WINTER. He had like seventy or eighty songs to go through. The wet whittled down to thirty two songs. Yeah and the you know each year it gets better and better and it'll be tough sledding to try to win this but you know we'll keep you updated on that and We'll play. We have different brackets here. We were going. Since it's you know trigger in its barbecue. The Memphis region will bring that to you today. Play those songs go through all the songs if you can there Really well done as some are good by being bad. Some are just good by being good if you like. Get in touch with the program on this Monday. You can best and worst of the weekend phone calls. Marvin will be handling the phone calls in their eight. Seven seven three. Dp show email address DP. Dan Patrick Dot com twitter handle at. Dp Show Tony. Dungee will join us from NBC sports. He lives in Tampa get his thoughts on the buzz surrounding Tom. Brady also where it is James Winston end up. Where does CAM NEWTON END UP? Looks like the Patriots are going into battle with Brian. Hoyer and Jarret Stidham At least that's where it stands now here in March mark. Cuban and the Mavericks will join US coming up a little bit later on and Bobby Hurley. Former Duke All American Point Guard of course Arizona State head coach. We'll talk to him. I'm curious if he watched the replay on. Cbs of that eastern regional the elite eight when at the spectrum with Kentucky and Duke when Leitner Hits the shot. But we thought it'd be fun to talk to Bobby Hurley about that. And also what do you do as a college coach right now? With recruiting with your players. They can't work out so hurley will join US coming up. We've now gone through two weekends without live sports and it's been interesting to see how the networks have filled the time as I mentioned you know with the tournament. Cbs treated us to the Nineteen ninety-two Duke Kentucky. Lead eight game. I think it's the Best College game that I've ever seen. There are a lot of great moments in. Ncaa history but that one with what was on the line how it played out. It was a great game from start to finish and you had star Players Mall Mashburn fouled out Leitner Hurley. Grant Hill to hall of fame coaches there and one of the great endings that we've ever seen an NCAA history. Sports is such a big part of our collective memory in moments like the Leitner shuttered. Just one of the many and this weekend people probably watched a Lotta College basketball. Old Super Bowls were being replayed. They had you know. Condensed versions of super bowls that were being replayed on NFL network. There's videos on Youtube and it's not the same as live sports. We know that. But it's the best we can do for now and I'm hopeful that we'll start creating more memories soon enough. I also saw where they've yet to decide if the Olympics are going to be held the IOC is set a deadline to decide on twenty twenty. And now there's a chance they could push it back to twenty twenty one. You have athletes. Who can't work out. I I don't know how you can hold these Games Canada's already said. No Australia is on the verge of saying they're not sending their athletes here. But you know if you can just give a plan. B Have a plan B. I mean that's what we have to do as a society. Twenty twenty one okay. It's not ideal but nothing's ideal now but you gotta think about these these athletes here that that's my biggest concern with all of this. How do you get together? You know if you're GONNA have a volleyball team any kind of team sport trying to get somebody who together. You can work out individually but trying to have that collective cohesion where you have. A team is going to be really difficult to do. So they're going to wait a month. And then I you know I go back to. I don't see the NBA coming back. I can't imagine that you'd have the Olympics. With all of these athletes from all of these countries converging in Tokyo. And who knows where we're going to be with this virus by then baseball? They're trying to hold on and salvage season half a season. Three quarters of a season the NHL was doing the same thing. It's all in a state of flux and I don't want to say boy cancel it and then go back and go boy. We shouldn't have canceled it. I think you gotta be fair to the Athletes. Even baseball. I was told by a friend. Who's in management in Major League Baseball? A front office and he said it's going to take four weeks to get. Us ready to play regular season games. So let's say it's mid-may that I mean that's a pipe dream to me but let's say mid-may baseball comes back now. It's going to be at the end. You'll be beginning of June where you'd probably play baseball. How long can you continue to play the season? You're going to go into November. We're already into November and the weather issues so just trying to find. What is that cutoff date? And that's why I thought having more Cuban on would be great is there. Does he believe there's a cutoff date for the NBA? Season where you say. We're just not going to be able to play and these players back. How long does it take to get back into game shape? Because we've all heard this. You can practice. You can work out. There's nothing like being in game shape game conditions. And that's part of this that baseball's coming back. Well that means they're not coming back to play because the athletes have to get ready. It's almost like a miniature spring training again. What's poll question? We have today pauly or as McClellan McLellan. Are you able to handle the poll question Duties there while we have a couple of options here policy as a great Olympic. One that you can ask him and I have a couple. Nfl which direction you WanNa go. Well let me go to yours and I'll go to polling okay so the Patriots signed Brian. Hoyer hypothetical if they go with hoyer instead of who wins more games. Tom Brady and the box or the New England patriots. Boy I think there around nine nine and a half somewhere there. I'm I'm all in on the block so I'm GonNa go the buccaneers. This is what I wondered about Brian. Hoyer might be good enough to start for the Patriots. But he wasn't good enough to start for the colts. So that would have me confused that you're bringing in Philip rivers. If yet Brian. Hoyer won't he could start for New England but he couldn't start for the colts and you could have saved yourself a little bit of money. There feels like what else do you have? A club okay. The next question was who actually does start for the Patriots Week. One is in Jarret Stidham. Brian Hoyer Cam. Newton Jameis Winston or other. Is there a possibility? You Make One group Winston and Newton together as a big free agent. I'M GONNA say Hoyer Starts Forum. This feels like that. That might be the safe way to go into a season there. Yeah Point I saw a couple of posts that James Winston is in play for the backup role of the saints. If you were Winston and his agent would you suck it up and take way less money to be a backup with the saints knowing you could take over that franchise in a year and a half and have a really nice franchise indoors for yours and get that second leg of your? He's really young. Yeah but you've got to chase them. Hill tastes them. Hills the quarterback who was in waiting. According to Sean Payton I. I don't think I mean James Winston going to have to take a backup role plain and simple cam. Newton is going to have to take a backup role. Feels like and Andy Dalton's probably going to have to take a backup role. What else do you have mclovin way? Quick question off that. What about a team like the redskins where you can compete for the starting job for James or Cam? Does that make sense? Is that a dead. No I think that Kim would be in place for the redskins because the Ron Rivera. I just don't know how they what they think of. Dwayne Haskins I know what the owner thinks of Dwayne Haskins but the people who are smart people. I want to know what they think Dwayne Haskins and that would be the big concern. Are you all in on him? And do you want to bring in James? Who's going to try to win that starting job? And that's where it gets a little dangerous if you've already wasted a first round pick onto Wayne Haskins bring in Cam Newton. Now what do you do with Haskins? So I don't even know what can is right now. If Cam is completely healthy I would certainly him in? If I'm Washington Jameis Winston. Everybody says all could you imagine him in New England? I I can but I don't think Bill Belichick can and I think that he's got wonderful talent. And maybe he's with smart people but keep in mind. He was with Bruce Arians last year. All these people that Brady has confidence in James Winston had those guys. And what did he do? He threw thirty interceptions. Someone of those receivers went the wrong route and you gotTa have the right offense coordinator right head coach okay. He had great receivers and he had a wonderful head coach. Offensive minded coach and experienced offense minded people on the staff. I would be very nervous. I think he's got to figure out. You know how to play the position eventually. Talent wise great. But you know that hasn't been the issue here. Y'All mclovin bench on Friday. That two of might be able to do the physical he wants. I came to Howard. Teams Protein is. What have you heard about that? They're a source said to me that there's real concern with two that they can't get the medical. They can't get all the information they need. Now it's going to be an even bigger risk from what I was told if you're going to go all in on to you know. Can you get the information you need in time? The fact that you're not gonNA he's not going to be a pro day. The draft is gonNA be by remote. You're not going to be around him and then to try to get him and say all right. We want to put him through a workout. When can you do that? Because the draft. Is You know what a month away you know. Could you do simulate a workout? Just like we're doing here. Imagine you had a camera and feed going out to all thirty two teams and two does a pro day and you have a person within like a coach middleman and it tells to A. Here's the request from the teams. Here's what we want you to do. And he can go either with all the teams all thirty two teams into a public pro day or not public but public to those teams and then a handful of them can do individual ones and it could be camera setup with him. His coach and a couple of wide receivers were nowhere near each other. Yeah I understand that but you know it's weird how these old school guys they want to and I was told this they like being in front of somebody and listening to them. Throw the ball like how does it sound? How does it does it have that acceleration? They're like if you've been around guys when you watch them throw a baseball in person. It's so different than watching on TV. Because you can hear that and you can night. There's that extra push that's I was told about to. They want to be in in front of him. They instead of doing something via skype or something you know they want to be there. But they need the medicals. I also started to look at all the things that have happened so seven days ago. Look at what's happened with the NFL. Tom Brady's the bucket near Sean. Payton's in quarantine deandre Hopkins Got Traded Cam. Newton Jameis. Winston are without a team. Philip rivers is a Colt. Nick foles bear deforest. Buckner a colts too fond digs is a bill. Todd Gurley Falcon Teddy Bridgewater Panther. Amari Cooper got paid an insane amount of money Miami brought in Byron Jones who else Darius slay out of Detroit Kirk cousins got a contract Extension Judea beyond Clowney is Still without a team like that's all of that transpired in the last seven days pretty incredible. It's not like we have a lot of other signings left but that's that's certainly filled up quite a bit of time here in the last seven days. We're starting to find out a little bit more about. This is all about spin when it happened. I said watch for the spin. Read for the spin listened for the spin in New England. Now you're getting Tom Brady side of the story. You may not get Bella. Check side of the story by Seth wicker. Sham had a lengthy article on Tom. Brady and how? He felt how he felt. You know kind of disrespected. They're not appreciated. And I understand all those things where he finally just said why off. Am I doing this for well? You were doing it because you probably thought that's the best place. You had a chance to win a super bowl now. That's gone you you know. You're you're legacies firmly cemented. Now you go have fun. And that's what he's going to do. I sent the Dan. That's a picture. 'cause I hope that they bring back the cream sickle uniforms? The white ones with the the the the lettering in the numerals that cream in Tampa and it was Trent dilfer wearing number twelve in that picture. At the line of scrimmage and I thought I could put Brady in that uniform. I saw where his Jersey sales are up nine hundred percent which makes sense going to a new team. I don't I don't know who would be second on that list when it comes to Jersey. Sales Benghazi Deandre Hopkins Philip Rivers. Coltman Nick foles no Steph on digs teddy bridgewater maybe teddy bridgewater. Todd Gurley Falcon now. Laurie cooper stays kirk cousins right. Yeah so I understand where Brady's jerseys what's the Olympic Pole Paulie all right now? This is a weird opportunity. Even though it's a negative let's say. The Olympics are pushed back. The Tokyo Olympics pushed back to summer. Two Thousand Twenty one then. The following Olympics in Paris will be twenty twenty four which three year window. No big deal. Paris knows their timeline and then L. A. Olympics are scheduled for summer two thousand twenty eight. I'm in favor of changing the entire Olympic model in bucking tradition and going to the Olympics. Every three years you give the athletes a much greater chance to make the Olympics more than once in their career multiple times in their career. You know three years is still long enough where the average fan will miss all those niche sports in track and field and swimming and so forth. And you'll make way way more money. Thank you have an extra Olympics every couple of years based on schedule and all you have to do is you don't have to change Paris. Twenty twenty four at all do his ass Los Angeles to move up from Twenty eight to twenty twenty seven. Los Angeles is almost ready for the Olympics. Now all their stadiums will be in place and ready to go just a few years there. There's a city that knows how to host. The Olympics has done so before you could easily move the Olympics to every three years and make way more money. Yeah we've talked about that a couple years ago where we thought if you do it then. Maybe you help out. These athletes be able to participate in more Olympic. Will the Rams Stadium be done by twenty twenty seven? Paulina JUST WANNA. Make sure. Not Quite sure through easy. All right till nineteen after hour and we'll settle on a poll question. Tony Dungee will join US coming up. Where does he think James Winston and Cam Newton will end up mark? Cuban will stop by. 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Poyser on remote Paulie and I are here in the man Cave and wherever you are. You want to join us you can. If you want to just watch or listen you can and you can watch on Youtube. Dot Com slash. The Dan Patrick. Show fritzy. Would you watch this weekend? Fritzy Seton what did you watch this weekend? I watched some of Fritzy. I actually spent a little time at. Todd's house this weekend. Which is pretty fascinating. Oh you very the lead. Wow hold up the rundown on on Saturday. I was there for about two hours Just sort of helping them work with with this. Home Office. There and that was fascinating. But you did all the work Will Todd wife and I even? His daughter chipped in a little bit then. The toddler was doing the best. He could todd. He was very very helpful and very patient. Can you hear me though what happened there? I did something popped off my screen. For some reason I was able to my Mike. Did you make a mistake? I might have. I probably click something that I shouldn't have clicked. Okay made everybody disappeared for a second. Why should always somebody else's phone with somebody else? If I'm saying I must have clicked something that made everything disappear south trying to find my commute on mute on my Mike what did you see it? Todd House that will score you for life. Seton you know. I don't know if I saw anything that would scar me for life. It was very calm. It was a very peaceful house. He had a lot of memorabilia in his in his office. There Lotta pictures a lot of like. He's got a wheaties box with his face on it. Some how crazy. What about you mclovin? What did you watch this weekend? I watched the saints niners regular season game from this. Caesar George kiddle ran for like fifty yards on that last play was forty eight forty six. Do you remember that game? I couldn't believe how dramatic was. I forgot yeah. That was toe to toe. That's when we were wondering how Garoppolo do on the road and Certainly did and you're starting to get some of this information. That the raiders were sniffing around the Tom Brady situation prior to him going to Tampa that San Francisco was a little bit interest. Like you starting to hear a little bit more of were teams really that interested in Tom. Brady Tony Dungy Hall of Famer joining us on the program. Good Morning Tony. How's the family? Good morning we're doing well. We're trying to just hold the fourth Of Not being able to go see other people and that's got my kids a little cabin. Fever is but all in all. We're doing great. How many kids are in the house right now? Eight right now we K. Go anyplace else we go anywhere. We can't beat anybody What's the barbershop talking about Barber shop is fired up. They Think we'RE GOING TO SUPER BOWL and Everyone's excited about this acquisition. The feeling that You Know Brady will not only you know. Play well but elevate everybody else's game and You know they`re. They're excited for the first time in a long time. And you of course live in Tampa but what was your initial reaction. When you found out Brady was going there. I was surprised because I didn't think this would be a destination spot for him. But when when you look at everything and what they have in place They've got a lot of weaponry on offense. Todd Bowles is here. Defense played better last year. The only negative is you know you're in a visit and they're going to have to deal with the saints. Try to get over that Hump but all in all when you stop and think about it other than maybe the offensive line which wasn't great last year everything else place all right. Let's go around the league with some of the other things that happen. Personal Jameis Winston Cam Newton on the outside looking in If you had to take one I think James. Because of the youth and Health Right now cam I I love Cam but you know. I haven't really seen him at full speed in a year. Hopefully hopefully over all the injuries. And if you've got that then you you've got some weaponry but Not Knowing if divide to choose especially in this environment where you're not gonNA get a lot of information. I think I'd take James Watson and try to try to work with that I I said even before the the bucks decided all this you know. You look at Jameson numbers and Peyton Manning's numbers than those first five years. There's not a lot of difference other than paid team one more Payton had a lot of interceptions. He had a lot of things that that he overcame but his second five-year tremendous. And I think James. Maybe could have done that. The other thing paid had was he had the benefit of being in the same system. Same Offensive Coordinator for five years and James Bidding have that so. There's a lot of things you could say. I think the young man is talented. We'll see what happens. You got the Patriots Situation Brian. Hoyer wasn't good enough to start for the Colt who brought in Philip Rivers. But he might be good enough to start for the Patriots explained. Well you know we're going to find out what the Patriots if it was System and scheme and coaches and everything or how much Tom Brady had to do with all that. And that's what we'll see. Bill valid tickets hats and stuff. He won with Matt Cassel. He's one with Jimmy Garoppolo one with Jacoby So we'll see what happens. I'm not going to shortchange the Patriots and say can't be done. We'll have to see Philip rivers one year deal with the cold. The cold doing you know. I think they're loading up on on this year. And you know I thought Jacoby played well at the beginning of last year and then you get all the injury. Iran went out T. Y. Hilton those hurt the facts by the end of the season Marla. Mac was injured and banged up. A little. Bit They they've got a good offensive line. They've got quality skill position guys. I think they're looking at Philip rivers being that that guy who can maybe take them to the promised. Land this one year and then see what happened but you. Can you see a scenario where Andrew luck comes back? I really can't knowing Andrew. I don't know him that well but I think his decision was well thought out. I think there was a lot of mental pressure on him the fact that he was getting hurt a lot and I think he's just made the decision I it's time to step away and I don't think he made that lightly. I don't see him. You know all of a sudden saying hey I took a year off and my body feels better in Coming back if he thought he might do that. I don't think he would have it a retirement in the first place. Who was said? I'm stepping away for a year and seeing seeing what happened so I just don't think he's coming back personally. He's Tony Dungy the hall of Famer on loan from NBC sports. I'm also trying to figure out some situations here. Like the rams and the running back in general because my philosophy is been. I'm going to use you up for five years and then I'm going to move on I if I'm Dallas. I wouldn't have resigned. Ezekiel Elliott with that offensive line. I can get a quality running back in there. You're seeing what happened with the chargers and Melvin Gordon discount that he had to take to go to. Denver devante Freeman now. You Got Todd Gurley. You know limping out of La to go to Atlanta here. And what is the future of the running back the true running back like you know if you're looking at what is going on right now? It is this going to be running back. Looks like in five years. I think it really is. I think you're seeing a gain shift to quarterback Paul offensive line skill position guys. And then you you plug in running back the days of Jim Brown or Walter Payton and we build everything around that I think over You can look at the cold situation in the last fifteen years and Edgerrin James was definitely a hall of fame guy and Marshall. Faulk was a hall of Fame Guy. But they've started with paid and Marshall Faulk and you put Peyton manning and a bunch of gifted receivers and running backs GonNa have opportunities so a Marshall Faulk gets too expensive. We let him go. We draft Edgerrin James. Edward James has to phenomenal years and five really really good years. We let him go the year. He was injured. Dominic growth gets the thousand yard. Okay and we let Mars we let Ezra and go draft Joseph Di. He leaves the rookie running back. He gained with Thailand yards You let him go and plug in the next guy and Donald Brown and it works. Because you'd have Peyton manning and you have those receivers so I just think that's GonNa be the value of the running back because there's over. All people are going to say you know what I can draft the guy. Maybe I can't draft Ezekiel Elliott but I- draft Marlin Mac and he produces for me just fine as long as I have the other element. Was it easier to find a wide receiver or running back now in the dress. I think these are defined a running back canal. You those those gifted wide receivers. That's what you want. That's what everybody's looking for. That's what you're GONNA pay for and You know if I was the cowboys I I would definitely a paid Amari Cooper and just you know what if I don't have Zeke? I'll get someone. Yeah I don't know what the cowboys are doing. They're going to be in salary. Cap. Hell here toning and you know. They're they're building to try to win one. That's been Jerry Philosophy. I need to win the Super Bowl and They may be able to do it but I don't know that it's going to sustain long-term they're going to have to keep turning over personnel but this is a team that didn't even win a broken division last year tone. I agree with you. I think they're talented enough to do it now. They they had some injuries to. And that's the thing when you shoot for one year you get one injury and it's you know it goes up in smoke That's why I think you're you're more Food at the bill for the long term and try to be good for five or six years and then you win a couple of times there but if you put all your eggs in one year bath a lot of things can go wrong. Yeah I think that's what happened to the rams and I think that the the cowboys are headed in that direction. Where you you load up. You know it's almost like you've got a five year window. And then after that your quarterback is paid and you start to lose players have patchwork lineups there and I think that's going to happen Dallas. I don't know what Dak Prescott is holding out four. Like how much more does it one million to two million more per year because Mahomes is GonNa come in you know? Blow him out of the water. Shawn Watson it's GonNa make more I just don't know like what is a good value for Dak Prescott. I think boy. Tom Brady really showed if you try to win. And you make it so that your team can have those other weapons and you win. Everything's good for you as a quarterback you're gonNA get the endorsements you're GonNa make money you're going to be in situations where everybody's looking at you because they're winning and that's something you can't forget about an agents can't forget about getting that now. Tony Dak may agree. I agree cowboy's quarterback makes a lot of money off the field and that's where you know what you should make all the money you can make but if I'm Dak Prescott. How much more do I need to make? Do I want a three year deal? Guaranteed a five year deal guaranteed. Get your money no matter what you get. It's not you know in two years from now. We'll look back and go. You're the eighth or ninth highest paid quarterback in the game. I just I. I'm curious about that. And yes jerry does want to win and I just I think he wants to win. So bad one more that you might put you know the future of this team in doubt. Yeah I agree. I agree People don't know you play defensive back in in the NFL. With the steelers. And I was curious the best running back you ever tackled or at least tried to tackle I would have to say Earl Campbell in in my time there Walter Payton was in the League. We didn't play them every. I only play against Walter. Want but Earl Campbell was a guy you just you. A gift for your defensive. Linemen that we can you guys get it going to come through with a foia to steam. The second he was so I mean he just Cf Sprint and and his shoulder pads. I mean I think they would be illegal again today. There were so big But he carried them well and great guy to You know was just a tremendous. Yeah but You didn't want to see him. Come through the line with a header thing. Good luck there with all of those kids and Kinda of Love Your Wife. Florence doing well. Yeah we're we're holding the fourth down and we've got Brady Mania here so we're all in all has anybody bought a Brady Jersey yet Our kids have tried. We haven't been out to get out but they've definitely seen them and You know we're on board. We're thinking super bowl. Thank you Tony. Good to talk to the Tony Dungy Hall of fame. Yeah they tried to get those jerseys that you know I don't know do they have on the website. I saw where Chris Godwin is saying that he'll give Brady the number twelve. If I'm Chris Godwin. I make Tom pay a little bit there. I don't know what you could ask for but I would probably say Tom. Tv twelve. I'd be willing to give it. You might have to give me something there. We'll take a break got to play the day coming up next year and your phone calls is well. Mark Cuban next hour on the Dan. Patrick show do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you can save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT com once again. It's GEICO easy. Visit GEICO DOT com today. Geico DOT COM. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors and all of you great listeners. For supporting this podcast. 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Hundred Passer Rating Jameis Winston of better passer rating than Peyton manning through the first five seasons if you buy into that. Completion percentage just about the same and the one loss record is the big difference. Forty two and thirty eight per- Payton Twenty eight and forty two for James Winston. But it's Tony said Peyton. Manning went to a better team than Jameis Winston but James has talent. Nobody's denying that I just don't know if he's a leader. I don't know if he's the guy who is going to be in the film room studying. Like how do I get better? And if you're gonNa tell me what he's had all these offensive coordinators in head coaches okay but the guys that the ad last year are the same guys that Tom Brady is going to have and Tom Brady. Seems Pretty Confident in Bruce Arians and the rest of that staff? The can't use that as an excuse for James Winston. Doug and Florida joins us. Hey Doug Woody have for me. Hey how you doing sixty in a drop in one nine thousand five so As a season pass member to the books. You can't personally by a Tom Brady right now. They did send out an email with the white kind of pro bowl looking zero Brady. We are getting new designs this year so they sent out an email saying sometime early next week or the following week. They're going to release the new designs for the buccaneers. So you can reserve a jerseys which you're saying yes. Yes so you can preorder of now. But they don't Release until the following week or the week after they said one of the first two weeks of April Mclovin would you update the poll results for me through the first Forty five minutes. Okay do you want the Olympic every three years or every four years sixty percent say every four years all right? Yes todd. Todd how are you never mind? Can you hear me? Yeah I can hear you. I thought you raise your hand to not I was pointing actually to my daughter who decided to print something for school. Okay and that A part of this. I knew this was going to happen at. This isn't GonNa go well. It's not Satan. How you doing good? I'm actually I'm really into watching this. Show play out in front of me hilarious. I said we need to rehearse you said we should. We didn't actually rehearse todd. Did you get my note about Kris Godwin and the charity just wanted to make sure that your we're connected here yes. He actually most fascinated right now with Andrews patriots blanket behind him leads a fascinating turn of events there that of all the teams in the League you would have a patriots blanket. Why do you have a patriots blanket? Mclovin well a few reasons. I close personal friends with Brian. Hoyer I met him once. And he's like and I love Jarret Stidham so I think I'm changing allegiance. Did you take that from one of our Super Bowl cents? I'm having auditing problems. You can hear me though right. I kind of your writing out auction okay. A couple of phone calls here. Ben In Wisconsin Ben best and worst of the weekend. They stay my call Dan. Five ten and pre quarantine to ten. Who knows after all the snacking I I I wanNA thank you call. I've tried calling multiple times and this is my first time getting through. I have a best in the worst of the weekend Worst is me watching Wisconsin Badger Replay Games on big ten network yelling at my TV. Like they're happening live and getting angry. Even though I know the outcome and best has to be every pizza place that I've called to try to pick up from. They have been unable to Get my worker. That would that would be your worst. I think but not your best was able to get through to one piece of place though so the community come through. I'm crushing the takeout this weekend. And there's a barbecue place near me. They have a situation where you called or the barbecue right. They give you a big bag full of barbecue and they've a little table little bench right outside the building. You drive up you call in your order you pay for and you just. You could really open your car window and just grabbing go. This could catch on. I don't want it to catch on too much but if it if it you know. I'm trying to help the local restaurants here and you try to get carry out in. There's only a couple of them that have that available but hopefully we get an opportunity. You know because there's such a financial crisis going on with these you know. Smaller businesses and mark. Cuban is basically saying he'll join US coming up. These billionaires need to step up these big companies need to step up now is when they need to mark will join us and tell us about that process there. We'll get to more phone calls coming up the meat Friday songs. The Meat Madness. The brackets are up and you'll be able to hear those song actually during the live look ins on Youtube. You can hear those songs and some of the match ups that we have two week voting process. And you'll enjoy the songs. 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The Ramona t shirt from the holidays last year. So today we are going to talk real housewives of Atlanta which is chugging along. I'm a little concerned about it so for Ronnie. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I'm a little concerned. I'm hoping it's just like early. Season like weirdness Because I have to say I'm not really feeling like the show is coming alive in the ways that I wanted to. I'M GONNA Chalk it up to the fact that the cast sort of been like not really filming together yet and they've got some of the Robin Pride and summer number down here. This baby's everywhere. It's like not quite firing on the cylinders that I wanted to be. I think it's pretty funny. I mean to talk about. It is harder I guess sent to watch it because to watch it I crack up still at every scene. Well I mean the seams. Can you crying especially to skinny but I a crack up through the so but yeah it's a lot of. I would shock it up to just major depression. I mean there's like some major depression going on its cast area. Happy Jared late easy. Corologis dropped a litter and you know like I don't know you rich BA- happier. I guess we should also have congratulations to Kandi burruss. Who finally the Her new baby was born over the weekend. Blaise Blaise Blaise. Burruss to hurt crooked came out like a kid is to be a moment and then I realized the world play doing with blaze. No Relation Richardson. It is of glory. Yes so congratulations. Candy and the Fam- Etcetera Yeah so many Davies on the show so many babies. It's actually out of control. It really is. Yeah I want to have a baby and it Kinda just makes me WANNA give birth. Okay so you know what I WANNA do more. I want to ignore my mark. I'm really enjoying the mark. Is ignoring Kenya. Story by the previous lease is uh-huh i Kanye or the baby. Mark Refuses to look at her speaking of cold shoulders. We actually pick up with will Ni. Say hello to Cynthia Bailey on the Bravo pride. What will happen and so we see? We seen any walk up those stairs and she sees Cynthia goes Hamas Bailey and then Cynthia goes Hamas leaks and then as predicted any blows by her to give Kelly Dada huge hug. which honestly honestly most people would want to do anyway? Yeah but she did say were so there and we were wrong. We lost our office bat. Yeah like well. That's a little bit talk. She said hi but it was also like a very much. A cold shoulder was a high a high cold shoulder that was like not very very interesting to watch and basically knee is like hugging Kelly. Da and she makes them like very rudimentary small. Talk with Noel. Does your home for the summer. Novell's like yes okay bye. Yeah Noelle's like is it. Okay that we talk Cynthia's like yes. Of course it's it's it's up to to you know I'm glad she talked to you And so since he has a little confused I think Cynthia was ready for a fight but then Nina starts her victim something again with us. She's like no matter what has gone on with Cynthia. We had been sisters. I believe she wouldn't hurt me. This way Eh okay. Cynthia also does like a classic bed. Mandal remove which is like. Oh we're on a fight. Well when I see that person you know what I'm GonNa do gonNA give them a cold shoulder and then if they say something to me. I'm going to have these very choice. Words for them and then instead Cynthia says you look good miss leaks. which is what I was? Ah really friendly and positive instead station. So marlow was not invited on this float so instead she's just following along industry it's going it's me marlow and finally they get sick of her. You know just following along so Niimi. That's her up on the afloat. And that was that was probably the nicest thing that Nina ever did was allow Marlowe to like rise from the asphalt and like come up to the Bravo flow at least for a little bit until Andy Notice. They're probably the probably never did he probably never did. Because he was like at the top indie comb like Keno began to Cohen moment just kept poking his head over like look. I'm surprised all the fans that they were using to cool themselves down because the fans had faces on them surprised they just weren't all Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen Fan. And you. It's like a Wonky Fan. That doesn't quite quite work right and like it makes it halfway through a whole swipe and hops were winners like or just like swings back and forth in a chair they the fans when you put it sways back and forth. You'll like wait a minute. This fantasy fanning me. It's only swivelling you so weird. This fan just asked me about how big my indicas there's an emergency watch out New York their sirens outside. It's crazy I I like to hear them. My God there's an emergency every two seconds. No one even pays attention. We're like whatever on your own else. I'M GONNA. I gotTA streets across Asia. Can I tell you something I like. I think like last week or so on the bonus episode of maybe two weeks ago. I was talking about Thailand because because as promised before I left Thailand. I said I'M GONNA come back and talk about Thailand on stop but one thing I talked about with Thailand. I thought I talked about going to Bangkok. And I said you know it was like really exhilarating rating city and sensory overload. But it's just a lot and it's like very stressful. And you know there's just so much stuff happening all of the place and then I was walking around New York City I was I was in Times Square on on Friday night and I was like like why am I. Why am I making these observations about Bangkok as if this is like any different from New York City city? New York City is pure badness at times like I was walking around. I was like this is crazy. This is like this is way way more stressful and uncomfortable and anxiety creating than anything. I experienced in Bangkok but here we have musicals. That's true that's true. I did have I was able. I was able to have all this craziness like at least in the same space that Patti lupone exists Nixon. Easier I know no matter what happens in U.. Nor in New York you know that somewhere Bernadette Peters is watching TV and eating some hundred calorie popcorn nice feeling to know. Yeah Yeah it makes me feel good so yeah so pride parade. Yeah so pride pratice basically a bunch of Bravo bitches on on on the pride parade and then Cynthia's Cynthia's kind of walk walked with her big fight and me. I mean Cynthia Ivar basically just sniping sniping sniping from the side. 'CAUSE EVA sees marlow and she's like whatever a lot dogs here and they're just snipes snipes night but there's no real fight here you know and It's boring even like it's all love until pride is over right and Basically promising a big fight but then she's not going to give a big fight because he's just gonna eat her food at a sidebar instead of the regular bar which eva listen. You're being paid for this to go eat at the sidebar. You don't get to do that right. I mean it's sort of like a funny moment but ultimately really you should say and fight and fight Trixie monocle of Atlanta with one of my favorite moments moments of Trixie. I've loved when she thinks about royals. I got cloudy. This is so classic. This was really like this is why people tune into Trixie Aleksy like this is why she got her career in the first place and she like went back to basics she she stopped with all her experimental. She's like I'm going to give them what they want. where the Queen of the castle? How whether Queens of the Castle Castle? Oh aw I liked the trixie monocle song like royalty a girl power. I like like a command. And that's IT and they're just repeat it twenty times exactly yeah and this also dovetails so well with of course her most famous on which is God's God save the Queen God Save the Queen and Guess what the coin. The coin is me. I love that because that's actually twist in it this one just says the. We're the queen's this castle bow. What would have made this a real banger is if she he said we at the Queen's Castle Barrau and guess what this castle to they like a hot has the twists fall trixie monocle? So we're the queen. The Queen of this castle is Porsche going to her psychiatrist like wait. A minute queen's Castle completed this castle porsche or the drink yeah. It's like we must bow down to having a ten thirty appointments at a suburban therapy office. Yeah just distract me. Mike Castle my psychiatrist. How this strip mall psychiatrist bow? How so what? I thought was very fascinating right off. The Bat was a porsche is wearing a t shirt that has a heart and heart has two little is in it. So it's like it's I like porsches not just tearing you but her little heart is staring at you too but the therapist was wearing a necklace and like the pendant wasn't I also so so I I like how their clothing was having a staring contest. They were having a stare off. Porsche sad sad heart versus the one eyed therapist. Yeah all we needed was Tamra. Barney's evil eye hat really just low at. Yeah so so. The doctor's like well. I hope you feel as good as you look a little sad hearts. That's my shirt. She's like sorry. Well your face except gay to enforce. It's like well take take. It finally settled in. This is my situation like Oh Jesus Christ talk about something else. I'm bored. This is only episode for I know and the the thing is this is that she posted another photo with Dennis and the baby yesterday. So I mean it's also kind of annoying to distant knowing that she's going to get back together with him ultimately ultimately in real life. Yeah that idea like how porsche phrase phrases things like because the doctor says well do you think maybe you just trusted him too quickly glee and he didn't have to earn your trust because well knowing his dating history and should have considered it more but hell. When I was pregnant I was sitting on the catch and trying to grow our daughter? Just thought those the funniest putting that is funny watering herself. She's like she's like farm-to-table able restaurant mad. That someone's late for the reservation. Mike sh she probably also was trying to grow planned at the same time yes he was trying to keep a succulent alive. She probably thought the entire time she had a succulent inside her. And then she's like. Oh my God has a baby so Tauruses like when he made these decisions he threw. What's aside yeah? Yeah Yeah Body Blah and the therapist is basically like well so you know just one thing to consider. Is that like you're like really upset right now and do you WanNa make a life changing decision when you're upset. I'm like isn't that how she makes all her decisions. Yeah that's actually good. That says she got married in the first place. Why not get divorced that way? Yeah exactly so. If you're poor and you can't make an a life altering decision is in when you're upset and you're never going to make a decision. I mean you're right. It's sports so the doctor's like well I'm not saying get back with him but for the sake of the baby. Can you forgive him Mike. Yeah basically what she's saying is. Do you want your baby to have hotdog money for college or not. Listen then don't you want your baby to hotdog university okay. Well it's going to be a strong recommendation from the Hawk hotdog king himself so thinking about that. Think about that before you close the door and dentist that Dole has altered. No I'm not talking about it a little door because you know that Porsche was like literally locking your door in her house there. I fixed it I know. But and she's the kind of personal wonders why she's always being robbed 'cause she's like toys faulted and she's like but could you forgive she's like maybe like well that's not a bolted Thatta Baltimore now that is a door that has actually just like closed at closed and locked maybe generally but also like easily picked. Yeah it's just like a screen door. It is a screen door. It's a screener that actually has a hole in it Google home. It's it's basically just like some drapes that you walk walk through. It's just a dog door. It's basically a large Atrium Gazebo. Abo- very socially acceptable. So Kenya comes over to candy's house and shades her about all the stairs. You had to climb right. Yes and she has exciting news. which just at Brooklyn's trying to crawl? So that's exciting for Kenya and Then candies talking about how her baby is going to be doing November which spoiler alert blaze just blaze into this world. Already said so. There's that so it's like baby. Talk and baby talk and you know I was just like loving. That happens happens. Favorite Ben's favorite plotline child murders. Yeah my favorite plotline updates on the kids. Oh my God. My baby's almost do. Oh my God my baby starting bring to walk a little bit but now she's like turn to say words. Oh well now you gotta joy these times while you have it well precious memories. Yeah and then Kenya's just doing that thing where she's trying to like make yourself equal to everybody else. Remember when she told Kim Fields. Oh you know I'm a television producer just like you you know both of us with our storied. Career said produce being acting can help was like wet during this you know how it is being a newlywed early Wedge Yourself Mike Candy is not a newlywed came from. You're talking about but this is not Kim fields. You're talking to you okay. I'm surprised scabby but can't had an actual being alive and engagement life a wedding. NC Tom her. She's about labral. Second Jolt Child with his man. Could you stop op. Yeah please. They've like opened up like restaurants together. They've like built roller coasters. There probably weren't even filmed like they have so many things that they do like the Candy Burs rollercoaster Amusement Park. You know I'm just imagining because the coffee sitting now but the point is this can't Kenya is having some real issues with mark And you can't even seen it. She said that like she's seen Mark Boston. Kenya around that Kenya surprisingly submissive in her relationship with mark and which also is curious because Kenya was with Matt before mark and Matt was like kind of overbearing and abusive. And so so. It's sort of strange that Kenya's this really seems like a really strong woman who is like you know. Start Shit. She's not afraid to fight and yet put yourself in these situations situations where she's very submissive to these men. Yes like abusive men. I'm not saying I'm not saying anybody physically abusive but I would not be surprised if some sort of abuse view story mine came in here in the future and that's one motion all emotional like there's a lot of different types of abuse to the point is where there's like an inequality in that relationship and can you basically tells us that she's like if I swaddled Brooklyn. Mark takes her out of this Waddell. If I put her in the crib he takes her out of the crib. If fine collector for three hours he takes care of her for three hours. She said that he doesn't like when she's going to change the diaper while the baby's asleep leapt like just let the baby rest which is weird. I mean it's like it's weird arguments. They're having you know I mean I don't. I don't know when's the best time to do it. I just think it's weird. That a few swaddled. The baby swaddled baby that actually that actually bothers me. It's like to me it's like I hate for instance when someone gives me a sandwich but but they don't put like Like if you order at a restaurant but there's not enough like Mayo on it or whatever and so you have to open up the sandwich and then like put more put like the Mayo on on a mustard and you close sandwich again. And for some reason it's just like never quite as cohesive of a sandwich things start falling out of it falling apart bread slides everywhere as is like. Don't do this Waddell. Don't under the sandwich. Don't under the swaddled. Mark will basically mark is like one of those people who invented the bowl restaurant. You know. It's like he took a burrito he enrolled debris though and then he just called it a bowl. Yeah Yeah So. He's like turning the baby onto a bowl. He's basically you taking credit for being supposedly right now. Plant that baby back into Burrito sir. Also what parents swaddled baby I feel like parents love swallowing their baby. Because then it's like a little bit less work you have to do. The baby swaddled up is not going anywhere as cozy and also adorable like. That's probably like peak. Baby cuteness is a baby in this wattle. Well I don't know that Kenya's waddling the baby right in the first place you can you. Can you could be just like wrapping that whole baby up in a play hack putting it next to the laptop you know yet attack. She's probably trying to plug it into this. Lightning Port Jackson wrapping a Christmas present comes like all like wrinkled and like bunched up So she gets really upset because as owner. This isn't the difference. Sorry so can't he's like well You're going to have a trip right and she's like I'm not having some stranger. Come take care if my baby so I wanted to take the nanny. But he doesn't want the nanny on the drab and candies like look. I know that we're both strong ladies. And we have to let them think they're in charge charge. You know because they think they know everything and can is like yeah. I'm like yeah but at least we all know that candy is in charge of that house back. I don't think there's any doubt with Kenya. I'm not so sure and it makes me uncomfortable because I'm not really Kanye Lover Am. I don't like feeling protective of people I don't like now I understand that but at least it's Albert this. This scene gave candy a chance to show off some real vocal range with some classic candy. Burs modulation because she's like no. They're figuring out their their flow Sarah's marriage and then of course followed by a Classic Candy Laugh at nationals that leather known anyone. I can't do that I'm sick. I'm like that. Is that like thanks. Joe like a small and then a long haul because she had it in new little sound effect that I liked doing that was really funny. It was like all these high pitch high pitch high pitch and then like car kind of sputtering on the road like Eh. She's at some point. You just start doing what because noises and like explosions like a Paul like those old casio loud allow keyboards you know. Yeah so next up. Is Cynthia Neva. Going to dinner at Tau where we get to hear Lichi. Martini lot yet concede. Genie leads you. Would you like Ligi Martini. Everyone loves Ligi Martini. So it's a table set for three and even like wire three people. Why was the set for three Nessim has pulled us at the? She's going to surprise her with a someone. She doesn't WanNa see invitation. Yes exactly. She's based she's invited Marlow to dinner and can't stand marlow and Cynthia says if there's any bullshit I won't be here long. And he was like like well. Then you won't be here long because her name is bullshit. So yeah this is a problem So I was also worried that there was gonna be some weird ni-ni ambush because because Marlowe apparently is the one who set up the dinner and Cindy I thought it was weird that Marlo setting up so then I thought it was gonna be some strange shit. But it wasn't no but there was a lot of Lichi MARTINIS and a lot of Menchie Lichi. Martinis big having a big moment. Bravo two things. That are having a really big moment on Bravo right now. Thailand and Lichi Martinis. Yeah so Cynthia's just basically explaining like here's the thing with Marlo just loyalty to me. I bet you can't tell me that she doesn't entertain this bullshit you know she doesn't ever check Anini now. Mike sounds familiar as Cynthia. Yes seriously. It's like well I'M NOT GONNA put up with this. Now let's order. Okay I will have the California Roll Spider Roll. The dumplings the chicken dumplings support dumplings despite his hair over there by the chair and the way they were counting it up was hilarious. 'cause they were adding her bill up as she went along also by the way ridiculous it was. She ordered like four pieces of yellow tail. And it was like thirty two dollars Take a seat Tau okay take a seat. First of all everyone says is your food is bad. So there's that second of all you're like a club so like why are you charging I understand why they charge eight dollars for a piece of yellow telcos. They are club. And that's the clubs. Do but seriously take a seat. Okay I I was offended by those yellowtail prices. It should be like for one piece of yellowtail four dollars Max but really should be like two dollars for four hundred five. There's really be four hundred five or two pieces of yellowtail. I feel very strongly about that. You're basically weekly just very cheap. Basically you're just never going to tell you I won't go to Tau unless how wants to sponsor our podcast and prove US wrong and show us why they're a wonderful restaurant. Why thank thank you tell in advance? We would love to have dinner there on your bill if ben in Iran real housewives are scenes would take place like the row Sushi. been it. Well the thing is that there's a talent la. Now it's up in Hollywood and anytime I drive by it. It's just like the worst people going in the worst but again I'm willing to revise my opinion and if Tau we'd like to invite us in and show us why they're actually wonderful on why we podcasters sometimes could be wrong so tau thank you in advance for dinner. It was lovely. I'm literally trying to a free meal a towel. Why not now just not care house house like we don't care about like we have Cynthia Bailey? Here we don't need podcast. They're probably ever giant. Are you okay over there. Marching turning over. I'm here okay. You're not hear me. No I heard shifting and sounds and things like that so I was. I mean one of these. Oh I was moving my notebook. Shut up series. Shut off Siri wants sears. And here's another thing about and I said Jesus Siri did you say mean one of these and she said I'm not sure out. Jesus is watch. Every time I'm laying down. I moved my wrist up. It's like what what did you say you serious gene gene digital assistance. What was that you want? Something Tau Tau You. You mean a tower of Pisa Cash. No I went to therapy with Fritz years ago. It was wonderful. Why America Tower Pizza? Don't complain to me when you're covered in grease and cheese by by the end of the journey. Do you want a you need a towel. Is that what you're saying Do you ever see you ever go to linens things. Oh it's closed isn't it. They closed down bath and beyond has good towels. I don't know you might want to check their no gene. I wasn't even talking about towels. I WANNA check your hamper Hind Marla. Marlins and she's wearing such a big steph dress that she has to enter the stairways sideways. Did you notice that she. She looked like she was wearing things. She looks like playing a card in Allison Wonderland like one of the cards in the Queen's Court. She did she looked like she was wearing lump crab meat. It was like you know when you like when you eat a crab and just like the crap gills. That's what her address like like yes card. Crabs yeah so she comes in and sideways and even like Oh hell no by. I'd like to take all of these go please. I'd like this this this okay you can leave some of that pork. It gives like a piece for tomorrow. Marling like she clears. The table is starts to go. And marlins you don't have to run. Why are you running honey? Where's sisterhood and we are not sisters? Goodbye here you can have some port. Yeah I paid a well. I Made Cynthia pay one hundred. Sixty eight dollars for this. I'm not wasting it with your presence. Yeah and she doesn't even leave. She just goes to a sidebar which cracks me up. Yeah I liked that. So Cynthia's like well L.. At least you'd left you some duck Marles like by girl your life's of fraud and you're broke wonder why she left table So yeah then Yves Le. It's trying to build bridges over. There has sort of an interesting response. She goes I wish marlow would just jump off a bridge with all her curiosities about my life. I think well you know it's not the best she's ever done but you know I mean the best episode today. She says a lot of random things like that. Yeah she pointing at the camera and like doing doing Popeye. So it's supposed to make like really shady but you know she's in an effort yeah she's normally like very good probably one of the best in the cast but this episode maybe she. Has You know pregnancy brain or something like that. Like they're coming off a little bit like mad libs like I wish she would certainly take that fish tank and go swimming swing to the crocodiles that. If you know what I'm saying I'm like I don't I don't yeah. She could take a fork stern ice cream for all I care wait. You're doing mad libs again you're doing wad libs because quite often sounds like she talks mad libs so but with less flourish you know at least quite has some flourish flourish. Yeah Claude tries to sell it. She really sells hers. Just like the Abernathy of the cuticle. Cook Candelabra Ju. The death has to which is an actual quote Jill. The DAFFODIL has a baby so Marles like well. I just had to walk inside desserts. Awesome so Cynthia's like okay okay. Let's talk She goes she's not broke. Stop calling her broke and Marlins like she had three or four jobs until actually matters and she just got that go got shame. Shame Working People saying you working people and then Marlow is being let me tell you what but I don't respect better first of all you know you're bisexual and you're not honest about she. Just Marla just immediately starts going in marlow works so hard. She works so hard for that peach that she'll never get she really does yeah So then even eating fries in her confessional. She's like I really don't care. So Marlo orders like East. I think these MARTINIS fleas and Cynthia. It's like I guess I'll have one too so they bring to Lee Martinez and Marla. Gus Does are both mine. Yes Classic Diane Moment Bullets for Broadway. We'll have to Martin's extra dry and he's like. Oh that sounds good. Oh you want one two three three MHM so the waiter. So MARLA like Yeah I need a shot. Says Cynthia's like say your mom. Now what the fuck is going on in those worlds yeah marlow yet. Marla talked about her nephews and and like she gets maybe like five words. That Cynthia's dating girl. So let's talk about no well instead instead of like the one thing thing that you've done ever in the history of the show that humanizes you marlowe cycle. You tasted the cookie jar. Look at you. You're fine MC well. What does that mean like? You can try. And and don't worry heterosexual marlow. You're really you're really walking a fine line lately. Lady Yeah I I was like basically thinking about picking duck at that point so and cookies to be to be fair so I was like I would love to taste the cookie jar right now. I I was thinking about people with three jobs. Beating the shit out of Marlow and a parking lot. Hopefully they're lesbians with cookies. So Cynthia so of course. We're talking about any and Dan Marlow is like we'll just roots of that. You call any toxic as if you can't call that which is by the way an extremely accurate word to describe Nina. She is the most most toxic thing that the show has ever seen. She is a walk-in to what like two types of toxicity. Right like one is like sludge Eh. One is more like acid rain right so so basically Cynthia like you know what I don't want to take the high road anymore like every single time people like uh-huh you gotta take the High Road. You have to apologize to Cynthia's always the one who has to go to needy and she just doesn't want to do it anymore. Yeah because he's the one always giving giving ship being abusive. She says she's like blowing my brains out and people are saying. Oh that's just an amy and I got sick of that. Too Behavior's totally it's just how they they are. But then Cynthia does one thing they're like. Oh my God Cynthia. You can't do that. That mean E. Yeah Yeah exactly and I actually really understand that and I think that that that situation applies to many things in life Many many things and I think it's bullshit it's a dynamic and just because one person acts like a monster or reliably and all the time Doesn't mean that then they get a free pass you know and then someone who who like. Try to sort of like act nicely and then like like has a moment of messy nece. They're like worse than the person who is a monster all the time. But it's like at least open or like doc like upfront about being a monster. I Dunno drives me are. I'm triggered everyone. I'm triggered by this scene towel triggered. I'm I'm triggered by Porsche looking for shoes. Because that's like every day of my life and I live in a one bedroom looking for shoes every day of my like. Where could this be? There's only one place they could be. There's they're not there at the end of the bed. Now then closet North End the clubs now they in the bathtub now. How can I lose my shoes? Every fucking day that is that is very interesting. That happens to be like another pair of shoes that way when you lose one and you can get to the other ones right away layers at the same shoe because I have such a fat foot. I can only buy shoes online. And so I have like three pairs. It seems you every every on like a cartoon character and then I'll find two of the left now James's dog they're probably picks up the shoes and move them around. You looked so stressed out every time I'm looking for my shoes he's just looking at me like Oh my God because he knows what he did dog guilt. The dog knows that Shit I moved Ryan Shula again and now he's mad at cool. Maybe I'll look really really guilty right now. So she's going back to work finally edition and She's getting her baby ready for work and everything and now they're doing this thing where instead of Saint Porsche's sister they're saying Tang Forces Assistant Laura's on the phone yet because I think Laura aller Lauren I sing Longman. Oh shower later. They showed Lauren later. They're like porsches assistant lauren. Well there was also I think just like board and they're just GONNA like thoughts. What's around with the chirons because it's like the only thing to do right now because they they show Porsche getting dressed in her room and it's eight thirty five? Am and then like she brings the the baby they call an Uber and she put the baby in Uber and it's like nine zero three am as if like I'm thinking okay. We're GONNA see how long it takes to get into a car with Porsche. Oh she forgot the bottles. Expecting it'd be like nine seven nine fifteen nine thirty but it's just like no we're only going to eight thirty five. Am Nine am and we're just going to drop. Stop this whole thing. We're just going to give random times in the middle of the episode just because why not just adding urgency to inner some urgency to a very like non. Urgent moment went as Porsche gets into a car. I don't even know really why we needed the scene. I think they were just trying to cobble together. An episode basically. I think what happen. I think this was like a placeholder episode. They need they knew they needed to create some sort of drama between Cynthia and meany and like sort of like build something around that but then while while that was happening in New York literally nothing is happening in Atlanta so they just have to fill time with watching porsche gather bottles of milk and bring them to our ruber love so the knee is in is. She's at the boat house in the park and she tells them kids over the balcony. She's like are you kids cursing there are adult here really. I didn't see any on. TV Slow Burn. Was that fun. Loving Dini added again Nina Nina known for her for her proper decorum in public spaces. So then Marla comes comes up and full on Dream Girl. Secrecy Studio fifty four benches is the boat house. Yeah it is like a gold sequined Edwin Jumpsuit. And like she has a tip. That's about to fall out of it and that's also by the way like one pm and everyone's just in lunch flowing lunch garb and marlow is so so extra. I mean I. I just don't know if like I don't know whether or not I should just like. Love it or just roll. My eyes are maybe somewhere. In between the Marlowe fucking love it. He's Hilarious at least she's herself. You know somewhere less like well I would look to Cynthia. She didn't tell me she was bringing eva then even left the table. Yeah well at least it got support but all it did was down there. What tell everybody would have bridesmaid? Said and then we got the clips of why Marlo is so hateful and and so completely wrong So basically marlow is telling me that she needs to make up with Cynthia which is not really the my the best thing to tell any Anini news now acting all innocent. She's like Cynthia was going to every blog and every podcasts and every outlet talking about how terrible rebel Iowa and then I finally did one interview you know and now it's like even if you did just do one interview you we have spent years and years being awful Cynthia and when you had your last fight how about. This like doesn't need you remember when she went on her fight with Porsche from I think two years ago or so when it was like the same thing it was like she was mad at Porsche over some stupid bullshit and then went everywhere and talk should about Porsche went on to watch his lives. The poor should be fired or whatever it was. I'm just saying that Nina's hypocrite and not in a fun Otaly and I love how seed listed. She's like she has gone on every interview so see even when on candy. So wow she's really making the the big. The big interview runs over there. Yeah I guess. New Cynthia an all the interviews Cynthia was saying like I feel like choose. Always come on their friendship and meany meaney was the one in her interview just like she's week she's whatever she whatever. She said she's weeks stupid. She's like afraid of life whatever it was but she goes after Cynthia the as a person so hers more below the belt. Not that really matters but you know that's those are my thoughts. Okay Chang. He's like you know a real sister to her of real says de the last thing I wanted to Karai. Is that octopus. Because I'm not eating octopus. Yeah Calamari and she's like not that kind of see marlow deep throat. An opt octopus. Yeah and then I was like okay. Well that's cute that that was a nice scene and I was like. Oh no the scene is still going to go so now. Nina's like well you. May you know I like appreciate you trying to get me to like have a talk with Cynthia. But I'm GonNa tell you right now I am not going to have a talk with. Cynthia dumped on so then it goes to commercial and then we come back Jack. We're still at the same scene. There wasn't even A. was there a cliffhanger there. Why are we still with meaning at the boathouse? It is still going on. It seems to be going on for ten minutes and nothing happened. Yeah I mean he's just getting mad because almost telling you to apologize and that's urban trigger and she's like I have to be the way to the ability of these people. Just get to sit back and look look like I'm dead wrong. No way she gets up and steps out. 'CAUSE Marlins Marlins marlins like I'd like. Can you at least acknowledge that. There's some part of it that you also contributed towards this thing. And that's when unions now and runs out of the boathouse and it's like the saddest chasing ever begins me. These like I leaving instead of getting into a high speeding taxi. Cab Get away. It's like one of those really slow bike. pedicabs seems like I will run no way she gets into this thing. It's like they're too lazy. They're like Walker just richer like literally literally marlow could have just like casually strolled up and been like. We're still talking but now she's like well he's on wheels. I mean it's it's a poor guy it's one mab on. A bicycle lugging meany leaks. How fast could it possibly be making effort? Yeah my skateboard or another pedicab. I would have loved moved like a pedicab version of fast and furious. But it'd be like the slow Andy mildly irked in the slow in the not even curious enough to follow you at a slow Walker so let's go to the object. Let's go talked to Jackie. Jackie doing her life now. I was worried. W WE'RE GONNA have another scene that had something to do with babies so this was made me really happy that we we did this. Yeah congratulations here. We are so ace. Starting Candy. Go to see Dr Jackie 'cause they're gonNA they're gonNA have happening Sam Baby. Yeah and Candies like yeah now. I see what it feels like to be a dude during the pregnancy for women like once or feet rubbed in her back hurts and Majett your you know now I know what it feels like but I like it. Yeah and then you know there's some discussion about who's going to cut the cord and like like candy. Says Todd can cut up. She will do it too if necessary. And then Dr Dodger. Jackie basically is telling them that when the baby comes The immediately bring the baby the candy. Who's going to be another room and like put the baby on candies chest etcetera and that's going to be like it for Canyon Janina because I I am imaginings as someone who has not gone to myself? I imagine that they immediately sever the relationship so that way there's no weird situation with the surrogate and the baby. I would imagine Agean 'cause I've seen a lot of lifetime but I don't know yeah I don't really know but that's what they make it sound like she's like okay. The baby will come out. Someone will cut the cord at trap door double open to Dina will fall through it. You'll hear screaming and grunting sound. Says the giant plant eats. Her plant will be fed. Go to sleep for the night while you you rest with the baby and leave out the back door. Okay how we are sending Schettino to replace that we'll just call federal and you will never see her again by the way. Apollo's out of jail. Did you know that high. Did you see those pictures. Like looking great. He looks like he's always look great. But like you know. I was one of the best jobs in America. You know I see why it's catching on. Yeah but you know some people go to the gym and they come out Joji dies but Apollo comes out like Apollo you know yeah but Apollo win an apollo and Joe Jude is when Joe Dude. Is You know what I mean. Only you can Polish a diamond. That yeah time. Yeah Joe just came out cubic zirconiums also also then we're back with force So she's she's going back to work and she's like it's my job we about everybody's T in pop culture but right right now pop. Culture is all about my e. It's like okay. I wouldn't go that far Ma'am pop culture was never really that shocked K.. Although you did get us with that beast geology headline. We'll yeah exactly and I think we should at some point. I would like someone to circle back to that. I like bestiality and Pretty Jessica. Are these the two things that Bravo just dropped on us but hasn't really followed up with and like that's like really cool like a Thanksgiving time and the best way to show thanks would be to have maybe ABC's Pretty Jessica Explanation Episode on Dallas in Atlanta. Thanks yet so we need for our holiday times. Gather the family around yet. So Oh yeah. So the point is that it was great. Going back to work was great. She had so much fun and she brought pj on and they kept pj on the whole time. And they she she had so much fun doing it because your mind off of things and now she's actually excited to be at work and now she definitely wants a daytime sitters that way she can work more and more and more and especially rush if she has a nanny. She's going to be able to heal better because she won't have to communicate so much with Dennis. The nanny can do it all and that way she can like have her like be with herself and he'll more yeah and she's like I've had nannies during during the day but Lena some Danny's are just like dousing meet with them some information formation Nannies worrying about her money and then other nannies. Just WanNa talk about my job all day like bitch go wash baby and you know. That's like such a nanny of a real hassle as watcher with knee. Really like purply visit like okay. That's like what I would be like as a nanny so tell me everything. What about Dell? I've worked out very very bad. You're like to hear like bringing up information that everybody's board with Cordell. That was five seasons ago. Asked me about the hot dog guy. Yeah so now. We're era over Kenya's Kenya's House because when candy was at the Doctor Jackie's Kenya send some urgent messages. Like you must come over. Please come over like I'm going through a crisis braces. I need you here right now. And then comes over and Kenya's and she's like setting alley crudity as or whatever like wiping counters all happy and kindle. Oh ooh late not not not only. What's going on this is? Why can you can't keep France by the way she's this friend? It's like I met the hospital checking on my baby and an can. It's like you must come over. You must have to complain about my husband which I couldn't possibly do over the phone. I needed to drive all the way the fuck the well and the ground. Talk to me about my husband. Jesus Christ up wasting my time can you okay. Yeah seriously so canyon. Kenya both want a breast reduction. Some sure we have that to look forward to on a future episode Duel Reductions Possibly by Dr Curves himself and Kenya's like feeling a certain sort of way because She wants reduction but she can't have it until she gets her the milk in her bubis and she's still she's still has she still lactating even though apparently she hasn't been breastfeeding in a in a moment. So like I guess that was the emergency I don't know but ultimately the segues into talk about mark and and basically mark when Kennedy gained weight from pregnancy mark turned off and their whole life has dried up dried it up with an odd term. So the Basically she was talking to candy earlier. About how awkward her anniversary trip is going to be and they got in a fight about the nanny again and so she just went on vacation with the baby herself Turksancacoes trip. Yeah yes 'cause they fought so much that she's like fine fine. I will go on the trip with the nanny and the baby and I guess he was like well. I don't WanNa be on the trip with a nanny. So how fun Bech. So he left her And it's just candies like year this is really awkward. You know 'cause you're not supposed to tell your friend leaves the Guy But leave the guy the guy this is obviously not going to work. And you're obviously obviously not gonNA make it work. 'cause you're completely completely ignoring. I don't know I just love this Guy Right. He does first of All Saints Real walking through SPAG too so I mean I don't know who to root for here while I'm GonNa for Kenya because this guy first of all like he said he didn't. He didn't want a nanny under vacation because then he wouldn't be a real vacation for him. He wouldn't be able to like relax. But it's but then as candy says so then you oh you having to tend to the baby every minute. How is that a vacation? You know like what's what's the deal with that. I just feel like it's I don't know I. I think that mark something you were saying what I was getting was that he wanted to go on. It's his first year with the baby and he wanted to go on vacation with the baby and Mike spend time with the baby and he didn't want like when you have a nanny like another family member there with you you know. I think that's what he's saying. But then here I am in the position of standing up for this jackass is the jackass so although the way I mean candies basically like tell tell mark how you feel. And that's when Kenya starts to cry and saying that they had an argument. And you you know she they sort of like this implication that this was like a bad argument and like he said some real nasty things to her And and she just can't all can you says is that Marc doesn't compromise and then she goes and I'm not a fighter. Of course they show a montage of Kenya fighting with everyone one on the cast. You have the bullhorn right before she gets dragged across the floor. Yeah and so. Basically like Kenya basically says the mark when they were dating being. If they had a disagreement he would be more refrained about the words that she would use were. I guess she's basically implying that like when they had arguments there were like arguments and now he just like goes in on her awful to her and in the producer's like well what does he say. Or what's his his tone and she said I'm not GonNa say I'm not gonNA say so. Obviously things are like really bad they are. I just noticed after watching Kenya for so many years. That Kenya always always finds a way to frame herself as a victim of something always every single time. And I've learned my lesson with Kenya but in this case I think this guy's total jackass. But he doesn't seem like he was a secret of jackass where he was like Nada Jackass and then suddenly was a jackass. He seems like a pretty overbearing jackass. So I'm I'm my my basic Claude is get him away from me. You can choose to have him in your life. I choose not to have him in my life. He's gross. He's abusive amount of WANNA marry armie Kenya so get him Outta here. Yeah he seems like a turtle like douchebag and He should've brought an he chose not to go on to Turkey and GEICO's us because she wanted a nanny like just think about that. Just think about that. That's like what sort of judgment is that. Is that a judgment. You want out of your husband. I don't think so. I think you want a husband that says we'll learn a nanny but We are going to get like a nanny for the nannies that way like like. There's no like like we will get a full night of Saxon sleeping. And the next day in Turksancacoes and paradise not like I would rather stay in my cramped apartment in Brooklyn Brooklyn and have no nanny then go to paradise and have sex. I don't know if my logic is tracking but it felt really really good as I said it. Could you go boy with you all right. Well that brings us to the end of the real housewives of Atlanta everybody. Mattie willing episode thrilling episode. I'm hoping next week things start to pick up. It looks like the cast will be coming together and we'll start to get a little bit more. You know like like substance as opposed to just these one on one conversations about babies so we'll look we're looking forward to that and we will be back with with what we're doing next marriage medicine. What are we doing marriage medicine airing this week? Is it on Wednesday tomorrow. Tomorrow is below deck back. Then we're going to have real house of Orange County during NAP married to medicine. I think Thursday okay. I don't know whatever will be will be here. We'll be here. Just subscribe and just see what comes down the pike everybody.

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Hour 2: Amari Cooper & Trae Young

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00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Amari Cooper & Trae Young

"Tonight's the nine dollars. The NBA awards Janas hardened and Paul George are the finalists for the regular season. And the P max Kellerman, the floor is yours. Who should win it? Compulsion win it. It's too hardens credit that every year. It's hardened versus someone else, hardener Steph hardener LeBron hardener Janas it tells you something about hardens in the regular season. But you on us had a better season than harden. Did his team? Won more games. He was a twice, you know, his defense. It's not comparable but the offense was if you want to argue that hardens offense with a little better than Janas Jonah's head. You know get some in field goal percentage and everything. Because of course, all his points points are coming in the paint and yon. This is really more of a big. He needs someone to help them out and hardened and go get his own shot. So if you want to argue harden, because he averages so many points because he can shoot from the outside. He has more complete offense is the superior offensive player. Fine. But you got to admit just even based on the numbers. Let's remember numbers are records of vents these events occurred. All these points that Yana scored. But okay, give the not hard not offense by a little. Is it close on defense? It's not close. Three times a defensive player harden, is this is an all world defender, heart, and clearly isn't so if it's close on offense and one due to snatch the other dude on defense and the doodoo smashing defense his team also won more games. And by the way, Janas, even though they were up to and then got taken care of, by co wide Leonard and the eventual champion raptors Ghana's had a good playoffs. Very good players. The answers Janas entered the couple he deserves the MVP. He does not deserve the MVP. I can understand that he's going to get it because he's the Greek freak he's an international fee nom. He's obviously had a tremendous season. The walkie bucks had the best record in the NBA, and we get all of that, but he's not gonna deserve it. And I'm gonna tell you what James harden scored over sixty points twice this season. He scored over fifty about nine times. Forty he's scored over thirty points against every single team in the NBA that all of the twenty nine team. Chris Paul missed about twenty four games this year. Clint Capella was out for a few games. I regard was out for a few games. Trevor REEs got let go. They let him walk way and get a one year fifteen million dollar deal from Phoenix. When you consider what James harden and had to deal with. They started out eleven of fourteen organization was in panic mode, and James harden. Just said, you know what the hell with all this will give you the dental, I'll take care of it myself. A right. And they ran him and ran him and ran him. This man was absolutely sensational. He was star studded. He was spectacular on so many levels. He was going in. He was playing in a conference that no matter how much better, the Eastern Conference has guys, no matter how much more competitive, it is. It wasn't better than the Western Conference. And I take all of those things into consideration than I understand that that will walk. He wants sixty games this year. And they were the number one seed in the NBA. How many games did Houston was it forty five or something was it forty to fifty three games fifty three games as I look at it from the perspective that up until the last week of the season? They went position to have the number two seed in the entire Western Conference. And you look at what James harden has done with practically every possession, going through his hands. With him being the number one option of focal point every team in the league game planning to stop him at the him, the average thirty six on forty four percent shooting on thirty six point range, getting to the free throw line shooting. Nearly eighty eight percent for the free throw line. This guy was absolutely phenomena. Also bringing up. I just think he deserves it. You say you take that onto account, but there is a stat that does in fact he all those offensive numbers into countless, Hugo percents. True field goal percentage effective. You'll present your free throws, meaning a free throws three point shooting your, you know, your mid rain. It takes. All that rebounds assist. It's cold. P E R, and the highest PR harden, had a spic killer PR thirty point six honest, had thirty point nine but I'll give it to you. I'll say you know what? Okay, that's PR. Hardened played a few more games. He averaged some more minutes. He's running the offense I'll say harden, was better offense with player, but it's like this. It's like this defensively defensive wind shares. Hardened point nine four Janas point one seven nine. He's twice as good as him defensive Weiss. So, so if the number say, in fact, Jaanus is a little better off. But I'll just give it to you and say, yeah, I kind of agree. Hardened gets airs edge, but Jaanus twice as good defensively, and then his team has the best record in basketball in a vastly improved east high just going to give it to heart. I'm getting ready to tell you why. Because this is not a question about who's the better player per se. It's about the most valuable play I make the contention to you that. Without James harden. I don't know what the hell Houston Rockets are I think in Eastern Conference even without the Greek freak, the Milwaukee Bucks were have been at least a playoff team because I look at the parts around the Greek freak, I look at the exceptional coach, Mike Buddha knows who's the coach year deserves it. This far as I'm concerned when you consider the exceptional job of their coach the pieces that they have around him as well. I think those things sort of dissipate, the value of the Greek freak compared to harder not dissipate value per se, but compared to harder what heart and has to work with the system that he is in how he has utilized by Mike. Tony, what they would be without him. Would they be without listen? I just told you think they'd be a playoff team, but I Eason maybe kind I said. Said I said, I'm sorry. Okay, but because they plan to live in the mid west, but I'd be six. To compensate European allies. Ing the freak because he plays in a softer conference and has better teammates. I'm not you could say on penalizing him. I'm telling you. I'm elevating and because it would heart and has to work against I don't believe this tea without heart. And what might then told me is the coach is newly what they are snap. But I'll say this dantonio coach, actually you saw what he did in Phoenix. Right. Steve. Nash dribble the ball a lot, but didn't average even twenty points. Sixteen points a game with Chris Paul his point guard. Right. I'd have to look that up. But Steve Nash wasn't putting up. Flashy point totals with Chris Paul's point card given the other pieces on the team. They're still a five hundred team. They may be knock on the playoff door in the west you take entered the Cupo off the box. They're also a five hundred team maybe knocking on the playoff door in the east. Maybe they make the playoffs because the east is deep. I don't see where the east is in this deep, and I'm pointing to coaching and parts arou-. That I think better better suited to compete and make a playoff spot. That's where my argument comes from. I'm not trying to say that the Greek freak did have a tremendous season doesn't deserve MVP consideration. I'm saying harder was so phenomenal. I can't ignore that because the Greek freak once MVP over the last three regular seasons you had to give it to one player harden, hardens the MVP over the last three regular seasons in the MVP this year, right next as Stephen as hard. We'll see who is right tomorrow morning. Of course. The words are tonight, but the real go get award to the Greek freak tonight at this ceremony that the fans are no part of by the way, they want to sit up there and hung sing Coon by Yata one another play is. All fired actually, you know, who doesn't hug, and sink whom by with other players on other teams the freak you don't work out with other on other question is should the MVP award remain a regular season award? That's a conversation for another day, though. 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Catholic. They just believe in me came in with a lot of expectations. They gave me an opportunity kinda show showcase my skills, set and see what I can do vows for the trade. And I just wanted to do everything approve them right of our could you give us some insight in terms of what you sell? Or how you felt you were viewed coming out of Oakland before you got to the Cowboys just how people were looking at you. And how are you feeling about yourself right before you ultimately ended up getting traded to the Cowboys? Probably, I think people view me as a as a player who. A lot of potential, but hasn't quite reached it yet. League. But the way I myself was if I'm giving attorney. Put in a recitation I knew I can bog, because what I do plan it all my life of receiver all my life. Nobody's playing receiver lower than I have that what he's playing football having to growing up playing backyard football and all those things like that. And so I put ball players who I am. And I knew what I can do. So I've always believed in myself, and I knew when I got to the Cowboys, I would have to prove that in our new that I will do a more your twenty five years old, like, one of the reasons that the trade made some sense, as you could see people could see your face now without the helmet on a baby. You're in you're entering your prime, right? You're not like some old player twenty five years old on a team that has every piece they need. You gotta defense. You got a quarterback. You gotta running back. You got you. You got good secondary receivers. You got a veteran tight and coming out of retirement to help in the locker room and on the field every single thing you need, and it's the. Dallas Cowboys spotlight focused on you from a guy who looked like he was regressing like, oh, he should be a superstar to a guy now who's so productive in the middle of all that. Can you describe the feeling what are the expectations this season? I mean, if it was to be Dallas cowboy, one of the most story franchises in history of sports. Bills by so. Playing in the Dallas Cowboys uniform and as of now but -tations are the same everything from expectation is when the Super Bowl to be the last team standing the last team to win a game, though the expectation you send the feels like you in NFL uniform. When you put on a Dallas Cowboys uniform does that mean you did it feel that way like that where you went to Oakland Raiders you vote. No necessarily say that I didn't so that way, you know, in an Oakland uniform our say in a Dallas cowboy uniform, I would say. When I had dreams and plan in the NFL Noah's younger, and the spotlight, the primetime games and all those types of things. It feels like that, James finally come to fruition as ballast cowboy. Obviously that let me ask you this job your man Dak Prescott he's your quarterback. He's in the news now because obviously contract negotiations are taking place, what have you. We just saw a guy like cost and wince get paid the what he got paid even though he hasn't been to the playoffs for the Philadelphia Eagles the last two years due to injury. When you guys see something like that. And you think about your teammate Dak Prescott and what he's worth. How would you view in that situation? Is it just business? All right. He's got a handle this business. Let the chips forward, they may. Or do you guys walk around with this attitude and a willingness to verbalize? This is a guy that deserves his money to. Yeah. I mean from the few weeks that I play with this guy, man. The energy brings to the table, the world to win a match. Really? I mean, I haven't seen any quarterbacks liken I see this guy. Wait wrong. And this is a small example, but no most quarterbacks don't have the best bodies or probably really don't care much about the weight room because they're more on the certainly Bruce out of the game. But this tastes every rep series doesn't miss a rep and I think that's a, that's a big part of who he is. He's just a competitive. He wants to do everything the right way. And I haven't played too many guys like back passed out. So I think he deserves everything that's coming on. He definitely deserves to be aid among the highest faith quarterbacks in the league. What about you coming into your contract? The situation should you be one of the highest payed receivers in the league. Do you think you should be the highest paid receiver in the league? Not now definitely looking forward to earn that respect and definitely looking forward to coming into this year in just putting up those numbers to my team and really Sean, what I can do in a full season as Dallas Cowboys, I know that I have the skill set to wonder highest payments. I'm all about going out there. Listen to y'all y'all y'all make the playoffs last year. You went to divisional playoff round against the Rams. I was there. I was in the tennis for that game. Dallas cowboy fans were hiding from me after the game. But that's a different story for another day, they were hard and confined confined Dallas cowboy fan. And I wasn't on the other side I was in the end zone and between I'm trying to the end zone in the suite on the field. It was ESPN suite on the field. Lebron James and his crew in the Lakers had a suite on in, in the corner, and I was right next to them. So I'm just telling you I was on the other side, I wasn't root for the rent while I'm line. I was I was rude to get the cowboy fans not the Cowboys what I tell you. I can't stand there. But I ask you this, y'all made the playoffs to the divisional playoff round Amari expectations shift for this team. Are you confident in what your team is going to be able to do you win? Another division. Can you get to the divisible point? I mean, are we talking Super Bowl, which are trying to say Amari, which do this year? Our say I could have sworn. So you to. I'll even that, but knows Cleveland day Smith. Go ahead. The first goal of every team is to win division because I mean you wanna division vacuuming to put it off. So that's our first phone. Player to put the cart before the horse, so to speak. I'm all about postseason results, not about the high the preseason high. Because it really doesn't matter what people say before the season might have been will happen all those things. I think we have a lot of pieces in place where very young team compared to some of the teams, I've been on, we have a lot of a lot of talented players fan, so we can figure out this puzzle in the do the right things as far as in cabin leading up to the season. I think we definitely have a great shot and making a run in, in hopefully. Unamendable question you guys are loaded both side of the ball Mari before we let you go. Can you just tell us what you're doing with the Gatorade beat the heat program? Here at this offense defense can't in them just trying to give these young information on staying hydrated because it's very important. I'm gonna go back out there and tell them look one time I was in the game. And I caught a crab in the middle of the game. You'd never wanna put yourself in a position to where you so dehydrated that you catch a crap in again, because it's really no coming back from that valley, take a whole quarter and a half to. Make that crap go away. Put yourself behind the eight ball. You can't really be the best for your team. He never went back to happen, especially in the hot state, like Texas. And so you really want to stay hydrated in Gatorade for that. I like it Amari lesson. You join the team halfway through the season jumped. Right and had a tremendous year. So I can't wait to see what you guys do this year. We will certainly be watching. Thank you. I'm proud of you broke keep it up and Dak deserves his money. But I'll be damned if I have a roof for cowboy thing. Pox on your on your house. I have a great day. Then you have to. I take we're coming to you live from above behind. It can river deck at Pierce, seventeen. There are high expectations in big data season. Just ask their quarterback. Dak Prescott recently told the Dallas Morning News that there's no ceiling on what this team can do. Former Cavaliers GM and current NFL dot com. Gillibrand rank the Cowboys as the second most talented team in the NFL heading into next season. It is. Of course, a huge year for Dak approaching free agency and his division rival Carson Wentz, just got a big pay day from the eagles on that note, our friend for recap. Boy, Marc spears, and the building. Good show. You. Not. Dak should get more money than Carson Wentz. Hell, yeah. Let me be very clear. I can't believe that my my, my brother Marcus pissed. We got family family. They watch it right down to. I cannot believe that this toot of all people would have the temerity, mitigated goal to sit up there and disagree with me. Let me get this straight. That Prescott thirty two and sixteen as a quarterback Carson Wentz twenty three and seventeen that Prescott completing about about sixty six percent of his career costs and went to sixty that Prescott Tom. Visit champion went to the playoffs. Couple of times. You understand saying, I mean dot Prescott costs it went. A. Sorry we found him. He complain top. Now don't get me wrong. I like costume ways. And I like coughing a lot. But I got news more I got a point that I'm gonna make you, you disagree with everything that I just said. But this one point I know. I gotcha. And they no way on earth. You disagree with this point. Did you have a problem with the fact that costs wiz got one hundred seven million dollars in guarantee? No just two months after Russell Wilson. Got the same guarantees Gaza Wednesday bene-. No true. Super bowls. He knows SuperBowl champion, Russell Wilson size for four years. One hundred forty million one hundred seven million and guaranteed dollars and two months later, you give it to Carson Wentz who ain't never even played in the playoff game. The thing exact money and guarantee dollars there, something about that, that rubbed me to raw way, but I go there at this moment. The point is at the end of the day, we know how to say credentials Rodway, I've been a guy Nick foles guy, but the cost of wiscon- bottle way he ain't no Russell Wilson. And he hasn't been a Dak Prescott. I don't see how that could be disputed to floors yours baby. If you want some you wanna. So let me get this straight. We are going to discount what the market bears. That's because. We know you get into this. Right. That was the MVP candidate in twenty four. He got her absolute Philadelphia's won a Super Bowl primarily because Carson wins during the regular season, put them in a great position to finish strong. I could see the Philadelphia Eagles, let a Super Bowl MVP walk. Because they believed that the guy that was injured was the most valuable commodity on their football team valuation. Private. I voted have agreed with all of that, since twenty sixteen the Cowboys down the second highest rushing percentage. You know why? Because he because his Email it and then office of lamb that team don't write as much as I love that because I don't want this to turn into you. Don't won't deck the get his money. Hell no that what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when I put my balls on both of those quarterbacks Carson winces a better quarterback than that Prescott when I turn gain film mall or if I'm a football player evaluated and I'm looking at these guys play. I'm. I'm saying when I got that guy from the Philadelphia Eagles healthy he has the ability to be one of the all time greats. When I put backfield mole minus Amari Cooper, before he turned up in Dallas, minus two billing to run the ball. Actively when his office of land was struggling. He was not a very good quarterback Stephen, so so we, we can have this money conversation. But if we base the money off of what you think these guys will do going forward because that's what it's based off of Carson Winston make more money than that Prescott. I got you. I got you. Trouble. Go ahead, max deck may eventually be worth more than Carson Wentz. Best ability is availability Dak reminds me, a lot of Russell Wilson and Tom Brady in the sense that he comes into the league into winning situations with, with situations that are conducive to him being good. All really needs to do is be game manager who's big on third down and elevate under pressure. I think he's done that just because Russell Wilson turned into a great quarterback. From solid one and Tom Brady turned into the goat from good quarterback doesn't mean that will follow the same path. But by the way, if he does great, then pay him more than Carson Wentz when he gets there. 'cause the ain't there yet Carson Wentz on the other hand was the MVP was the best player in football at the moment, he got hurt when Nick foles to go over and won the Super Bowl. He would have been the MVP had voted on it, right? That week thirteen not week six week thirteen by the way, how did he get hurt? I was at that Rams. Game. And he came in the next play on them on the leg and still got business done before he had to come out of the game. He's a tough guy can run. He can throw all those things Stephen A your not allowed to make this argument, because you and I had an ongoing debate I said the one issue with Carson Wentz is the health, so it's worth it to pay Nick foles franchise quarterback money while you have Carson Wentz on his rookie deal. You said you gotta let foles go. So if you add that much confidence in Carson Wentz that he's going to stay healthy. There's no reason not to pay him because went on the field. He's a superstar that is something less than that went on the field. I first of all. I decide what I'm allowed to do. 'cause I'm Steven. That's number one. Number two, the fate between Carson Wentz and Nick foles is entirely different than in the bait will cost wins against that Prescott. Number three, the reason why different is because we're talking about the mounts every value of one over the other Whitson entirely different subject. They constant went Nick foles. He is absolutely right. I did say a little things about cost. I meant it. The issue is dollars more artistic. That's where I'm going here. Right. From the standpoint that I'm looking at him. And I'm looking at the God, I'm looking at a guy like Russell Wilson you just got one hundred seven million guaranteed. And I'm like, oh, you're going to give cost went to same kind of guarantee dolls. But not that Prescott it let's take that into consideration. We got cost to win. Yeah. Nelson Agla, right? Not bad. Not bad. Nelson Agla alshon, Jeffery say that. I'm sorry. Zakar. It's at one hundred sixteen receptions down over eleven hundred dollars. You got that security. Blanket that does that title that those who went to hate lost that tied in terms of productivity from that position, who is one of the worst NFL last year. It turns into tight up, it would happen to be the Dallas Cowboys. So what I'm saying this, you got a guy that retired I was in a Monday night football boot before you ever tied back to that. Right. We got that going. All right. We also heads. Akil Elliott misses six games. We had injuries on the offensive line. To forget that, that's not the point the point that I'm trying to make highly looked. That's what we're talking about here. How he looked you yourself said Dallas Cowboys offensive line. Is it what they want Soir? So you got a suspect off long yet. Zeke Elliott that was gone for six games, even though they were three three and those games you had titans that, that would know tight ED's. All right. You didn't have a number one receiver tote game not at all of what your your luggage. Couple of trying to sabotage the cowboy. In the reverse. The B cap strolling the Cowboys, the day, thirty three million dollars. So they can't have any other players. More Cooper knees, his money, Neil. They go have baron Jones come. Z contractors. Way, particularly troubling. Million. So they. Processional dependability. Six. Seven. Seventeen years for the Philadelphia and called the Mark Cooper, he should be paid like one of the highest receivers and the game, not the highest not, not not in their tear their tenures. I think he's in the second tier for sure what he's been able to do. But when you look at what a more Kupa was able to do this year in Dallas this thing was teller for him. So now you we go. Everybody knows now when you walk on the field number one option for the Dallas Cowboys offense on outside. How do you respond to that? When you see receivers get paid. It's a number of years. They don't jump the pay receivers early. No franchise. Let your stupid, unless you hadn't seen this guy put in work and have the -bility care that torch, as number one guy, at least for two or three years before you make that decision. The giants I give their Beckham nine eight million dollars 'cause they liked him. They gave it to him because he was a highly productive and then the first here, why receivers Amari Cooper has the worker sale today? He's warning eighteen to twenty million dollars a year. I'm not. I like Marco, but I'm not giving them now Tonio Brown Julio Jon Evan Andrea Hopkins. That's what I give them my fifteen year I t the year and by the way, getting back today. I'm not sitting there saying, oh, excuse me thirty three million to throw that number two out there. But it skews me it. Russell Wilson gets a hundred seven million guarantees rates on his resume and productivity. Guess what? I'm thinking, I'm thinking. All right. You're going to get a little bit less. And the fact that you gave costing Winston same amount of guaranteed dollars. Vexes me he doesn't desire, that, that is a twenty to twenty five million dollar a year player, if you're a smart franchise. He probably gets paid more than next. I don't think the Cowboys are very smart. With the way they do this all the time, although they've gotten smarter Amari Cooper, I'll tell you, why would pay him. I think his upside, is end of the first tier like he'd never gonna be better than Odell or in Tonio Brown Julio Jones. But I think he might be like the last guy, you'll mention in that first year of guys. That's his upside. He's twenty five years old. And did you just sounded on this show, absolute not? I love I love them glare. Both of you guys are not in the damn front office. Because if you pay more Kupa that kind of money, right? Let's hypothetically. Let's talk about franchises need to do in order to win gain carrying prepares do it. Here's the deal. If you don't have a record breaking game changing at that position. You don't even have a conversation about them being close to twenty million dollars a year. Drew element could've left New England and probably got paid was the fifteen to sixteen million dollars a year based on how many Super Bowls he's been a part of his production. You know what they paid him? A two year ten million dollar contract. Right. Drooling them and said, I wanna win because the things that I'm gonna make outside of football would probably come to me for what I did. But, but I want you to make sure you understand what you're saying because here's the deal, we're not sitting here. Talk about at least speak for myself. I'm sitting here and tell you, if I am a front office executive. I'm just gonna throw thirty three million dollars in Prescott directions. What I'm saying. You is I'm a pundit, and commentator and a reporter who's talking about what other dudes who supposed to be on his level are making. And I'm saying you've based off of that. This is what he deserves because of what we're seeing not would've got that building. Bill. Russell wilson. I gave him that contract. How to give the hell he wants? That's the hot. Everyone's building else's Bill Belichick. Right. Who can win without a real. Number one receiver everything. I'll say this. If you have a number one receiver you have a franchise quarterback, I think Dak is that you're a franchise running back, obviously, that's Zeki leli you haven't offense of line. You have a defense, not every guy who's the best receiver on. The team is a true. Number one receiver more. Cooper's true. Number one receiver. You don't wanna lose that he's putting he is one of the triplets. If you consider deck, Dak Zeke Amaury Cooper, that's gonna put these guys at a position to win the Super Bowl. You're gonna you said fifteen so see lead only gets like sixteen so. Let's go with the how much did they just give the mortgage lors dollars? I don't remember what the guaranteed money, we guarantee, was a was a sixty seventy. So you just pay defensive stalwart we're talking about paying Zeke is up after next year. So, so at what point do what guy are you gonna dinner? Fi say I got I know I know what he's worth. But I can't pay him that much. But if I don't pay him something, we're gonna lose value as a ten. Why not even not giving back more than twenty five? But now almost even own, I'm not going to subject that take lists to pay Amari Cooper. I'm not gonna do that. I going to pay my twenty five year old number one wideout. He's gonna get paid my running back. Senator cornerback for the Dallas Cowboys and that drama soap opera. A franchise where this man has been a model of consistency dependability professionalism. And, oh, by the way, is winning double the amount of gains that he has lost that to needs to take a step back. Let me take a page from Mali's book, real quick. I can't believe I'm saying this place to get all the money. Russell Wilson insisted on getting paid. In fact, that cost them maybe a little bit of elite dynasty years toward the end Tom Brady has consistently were reworked as deal. So he gets paid. Well, he gets more years, but he helps them with the cap if that takes that approach he can be part of an ongoing sustained echoes. Did that before you? Did that before when you did it with Kobe Bryant? And I'm gonna tell you something right now, if you are a franchise that hasn't proven, you know what the hell you doing. Why should I compromise my money? Now. I will I will compromise it if you come to me, ask me to restructure took a pay cut or whatever, but I'm gonna get the money. I. Commercial? I'm not to come from outside. In may be young, but he is ready. Look at the candidates for tonight's rookie of the year is Andrea, Don fits, or Trey young and on that note we welcome in hawks point guard and rookie of the year nominee trae young is it? I late tonight for the awards trade, thank you so much for being with us. Routed me on thank you. Let me just point this out, just trae. And Oscar Robertson are the only two rookies in NBA history to score fifteen hundred or more points in dish out six hundred or more assists. Congrats to you on that. Certainly lived up to the hype. Let me ask you this. You heard who you're nominated alongside obviously eight an Dante. What do you think's going to be the biggest deciding factor this evening for who wins? I mean, I think there's a lot of decided factor, there's a lot of things that go into to pick in. As whatever the voters think that I mean matter to them, and whatever have is going to enjoy blessed to be here so afford. I'm finding I try to take you deserve rookie of the year. And if so why? Of course, I do, I think for me. I one thing I, I wanted to, to come in this season doing is playing every game it was possible. Nothing playing anyone to gain this year. The mission means something or like that the way. My season went thing, really the one that month of for me is I mean you shouldn't decide that the rookie of the year. So for me, I, I don't know what the voters are going to vote, but for me, I'm just I'm looking forward to say tonight trae. I thought I think Lucretia get rookie of the year in my opinion, but I thought he had it done in the first half of the Lucas rookie of the year. And then you came on, like gangbusters you made it a difficult choice for me by the end not that I have a vote. What was the difference as the season progressed for you? I think for me is really just I mean, a better feel of gone against I mean playing the point guard position coming in. I mean, it's an adjustment you had to go through. I think whenever I started seeing these guards for the second third, and some even the fourth time I, I started to fill it in more comfortable and I was able to watch a little bit more film. Get get a better feel for going against. And I mean, the game just slowed down even more for me. Whether you think you rank among among the best shooters in the game today. I mean, that's, that's not for for me to decide I think I, I should be up there. But that's not for me to the side thing, the work output, in and off the court and on the court. I mean, I leave that for for everybody else to decide. But hopefully I'm out there based on what you've done doing your rookie season. Do you for? I mean, I've, I've seen you obviously you got great ball handling skills. You get the whole you certainly could shoot the basketball, you can ball. There's no question about that. But based on your one year experience in the NBA. Do you find yourself moving forward that you need to focus even more on our making sure that your that elite perimeter shooter or, and the reason I only after that question is because I've seen you get into the teeth of a deep? It's a lot. But sometimes a small guy like you end up getting you hurt and maybe not today's NBA game compared to what it was back in years past. But you just never know. I just wanted to know your whole process with that, or no. I mean for me, I think it's good to mix it in. Of course you want to. Be able to shoot and be able to extend the defense especially with my team. We have a lot of guys who dry the ball and can really draw the boss of me. If I'm able to knock down threes, and I mean, expand the difference out, it just it brings an extra defender out lane for further gods. To drive and make plays. So, of course, I want to. I mean extend in always the over tonight down that shot but also I got to be able to get into the lane and, and find others that way too. So you gotta mix it up. So you guys seem to have a very good draft. I mean time will tell but what are your expectations for this year coming up? It has been a long time since they were actual championship. Aspirations in your neck of the woods. But now looking forward fans are excited. What are the expectations this upcoming year? I mean, we we're going to have high coming in everybody saw we had a really good draft. With the guy that we got. And I'm super excited. I know the city of Atlanta's excited, and I'm really, I'm really looking forward to working with this group. I think the expectations coming in for sure making the playoffs. Thanks year in this building that we just wanna continue to grow and get better and also have a franchise where we're continuing. I mean we have a chance to compete for championships every year. The reason I say it's been a long time since genuine championship expectations is even though the hawks won sixty games. Not that long ago there was no one on that team that people said see that guy that guy can be the best player on a championship team. There's a different feeling about this team. Can you be the best player on a championship team? I mean I believe I can. But of course, for me I gotta have helped I mean, we have we have other guy that our team that I mean that can do other things, too, and it's not just going to be a one man show. But of course, I feel like I can put in a lot of work in the off season to prepare me for that. And so, of course I feel like I can be that, that, that guy, you know, the Atlanta Hawks could have had Luca Donncha instead, they traded, they, you know, they, they traded down let Dallas trait up so they can get they could, you know, Dallas, get Luca and Atlanta could get you as you were in pursuit playing ball the way that you were playing and clearly pursuit to make some noise in your rookie campaign. How much was that on your mind knowing that everybody myself included was talking about lucre and you wanna you seem to be on a mission to show, excuse me? Don't forget about me. I I'm going to show you that I belong in this conversation. I wanted to know how much was that on your mind. I mean for me early on it was. I mean, on my mind, a little bit, of course, maybe it's so competitive. I don't wanna let anybody down in just hand. All the things coming into the league addressed. Of, of course, on my mind. I didn't want to let anybody down in any regard. So I definitely was thinking about it. But at the same time I just had to go out there and play. And I think once I started thinking about it as much as I started playing really good basketball, and I mean Luke helluva season. But I mean I think I think whenever I started thinking about it as much. And, and then you guys that they were talking about it. I was playing good, right? That there have been so few players under six three who have reached genuine elite status in the NBA that just because Steph curry, just did it, you reminded some people have Steph curry didn't mean that you were going to do it. I thought the odds were stacked against you to become an elite player. You're obviously in a league rookie the you feel. You've already proven, the doubters wrong if not what more do you have to do? I mean, for me, I think there's still, there's always going to be doubted as always going to be people that I mean don't wanna see me. I mean succeed, but I think that, that gives me a lot of motivation to keep going. I don't think I'll, I'll ever have everybody on my side, which is okay. Which is what makes I mean. The great ones, always have a chip on their shoulder. So that's how I look at it. I don't think it be I way I want some championships. So until then, even after that, I'm not gonna ever stop start working last thing before we let you go, obviously the draft just happened. Now we got free agency opening up on Sunday. A lot of moves all ready. We saw AD go to LA which player, are you most interested to see where they land with his deep free agency class? Oh, there's, there's a lot of there's a lot of guys. I mean obviously. K D. I mean with his injury. I wanna see what, what happens and everything like that praying for him clay de ngelo Russell. There's a lot of a lot of really good guys in free agency this summer. So those are a couple of guys, I'm looking forward to seeing where they where they land. Could you explain something before? I let you go. I mean and again you know you just finish your rookie play. You might not know the answer to this question. But I'm glad anyway, I find Atlanta to be an absolutely sensation of city. Right. And I'm wondering, are you wondering when is the Tom gonna come when we have these conversations about marquee free agents coming to join a franchise that we go here, there Lanta hearts name in the equation. Do you find yourself? Wondering about that from time to time because everybody I know where everybody likes to be in the off season and Atlanta's wanted. Yeah. For sure. I mean Atlanta's beautiful city of beautiful place. I'm Vincent prize on why people haven't been talking about us being a destination, maybe because we're young and we're still continuing to grow. I mean I wouldn't be surprised if even later on in this, this summer. Even next summer, people are starting to talk about free agents. When the complaint for us because of the way we play the the beautiful city the the style. We play in the office. I agree. Inexpensive. Ascending nucleus of players that look like they could have a championship in them somewhere and a good destination. They're going to be. It's about an MBA player, and they offer me, big Tom dollars, and told me, you're going to have to go to Atlanta on my start crying over joy cable. John Young man. We're talking to right now. Eight assists as a rookie score the ball do. Nice trae for a reason. All right, try thank you so much. Fun tonight in LA. Thank you guys. All right. Agency opens this coming Sunday at six pm eastern. We got huge names available including the Sixers Jimmy Butler now Cording to Houston, chronicle. The rockets are expected to make a push for Jimmy this off season. Stephen. If you're Jimmy Butler, where should he wanna go or Philadelphia? He shouldn't even be thinking about going anywhere else. Jimmy Butler is an acquired taste. I love it was a lot of people who, don't he is. No nonsense. He is straightforward. He is real. And as authentic as it gets, and he'll give a damn who you are. As he stated if you remember MAGS earlier the season, he was oh, by telling me what would you be you tell me how long the practice win this show up? What will you tell me what to do? I mean, this is why he's receiving check from. He doesn't. I mean it's not something he conceptualized it. So as a result, you have to take that into consideration he arrives in Philadelphia earlier this season, in the trade from Minnesota. Right. Almost instantly he gets into a Brett Brown. Why could Jimmy Butler doesn't appreciate being told to stand in the corner and not being an integral part of the offense. So what does he do? He confronts the coach because he's the one getting up at five thirty in the morning. He's the one religiously working on his body. He's the one religiously working on his game and putting the network. They know he won't hesitate to call out players who don't give full effort. They know all of these things about him there is no town, I repeat no town in the United States of America, in terms of basketball who appreciates that more than the city of Philadelphia. Philadelphia is blue collar, it is raw it is rough they take no prisoners. They're going to hold you accountable in all matters. There is no one that a pit them is, is that attitude more so than Jimmy Butler, Ben Simmons is scar caliber talent, Joel. We all know what he brings to the table, but a little bit too much fun and games. They appreciate skill set. They love him when he's playing well. They're annoyed with him. When he's sick and camp perform or whatever, Tobias Harris is a quiet storm per se rescue appreciate his shooting ability, stuff like that TJ McConnell, that the little engine that code and all of that stuff. That's how you look at those guys. Jimmy Butler is a guy that a Pitta Mazas everything Philadelphia wants to be about. He would be of fool to go anywhere else. Your championship contender. You're wrong. But what else is new bite? My line. Look. That was think of it as Omar Stormont. Yes. Okay. Philadelphia's what I basketball town football town. Football football town. LA is what I. Basketball. Let's think net let's think about what the situation is in LA. Let's take the clippers I, let's say co is signs with the clippers and the clippers want Jimmy Butler to be in LA and pair with Kawai on a team that without either one of them just took a fully loaded warriors squad six games. Let me tell you what will happen back to back titles. No matter what the rest of the league does. If Jimmy Butler went to the clippers who had co why to attack dogs on both ends of the floor. It's a wrap. Now, let's say they don't get Kawai and Jimmy Butler goes to the loss Angeles Lakers. What is LeBron really need? He needs a guy who can be a primary ball handler when he needs a rest. He needs a guy who can get his own shot who can shoot it. Well enough. Also take it to the rack he needs a guy to play defense. On the other teams best player on a nightly basis. And by the way, a guy who be okay as the third. Option not to be standing around waiting, but he might get fed third on that offense actually you're describing Jimmy Butler. He's a perfect fit on that Laker squad to go with LeBron James and AD either way the answer for Butler's not Philly. It's LA reasons a different life, for example, whether it's in LA with the clippers or LA with the Lakers, Jimmy Butler is damn near an afterthought with Hawaii on one squad or LeBron James on another in Philadelphia. Even with Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons there he is arguably the face of the franchise. That's what kind of impact he has on that city at this particular moment in time. And with that in mind, I would say to you, that Jimmy Butler would that ego with how hardcore he is about the work that he puts in, and what he demands, and how much his voice resonates with inference all those things that he's wanting. He doesn't just want to go out on the court. Right. And play and go home. He wants to have an impact. Substantial impact, and I'm telling you right now in the city of Philadelphia, which is an Eastern Conference. Okay. Which by the way was the one team in the playoff that could've easily knocked off Toronto. On that last shot. They could have been in the finals. Okay. So if you Jimmy Butler and Jo Ellen be finished crying, his way off the off the court, Scotiabank arena, recognize the fact this ain't a game. No more damnest hurts a lot Joel. Embiid comes back better. Ben Simmons Mike comeback win a chick, who you more likely to win a chip with next year. Wait a minute. Are you willing to concede that Philadelphia could have easily won a title issue? No, I don't think they get past the raptors don't. Don't. Talking about I'm talking about. They won that series. The last. With their right to if he went there. Right. Let me ask you right there. Next season. Are you more likely to win a chip with Embiid and Simmons or LeBron AD LeBron AJ? Yeah. Okay. That better city gonna win next to get Jimmy Butler evaluate. Now, if you if you stack higher, higher Nuff now, let me ask where's the better chip in the NBA in Philly or LA depends on your preference? He's from, he's from the Milwaukee area might not Monaco. Maybe it's gone. Coming from Chicago, right? I feel like. That walmart. Thanks much listening to the podcast. First take weekdays ten AM eastern on ESPN. Have a fabulous day. We'll see in the morning.

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November 27: After being grounded for so long, he finally feels grounded

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The CEO says he's shutting down as Canadian branches and moving those jobs south he made his bet then in it Paul Manafort is accused of lying repeatedly to thirties violating a plea deal. He signed and now the deal and the gloves are off question Mark that was the plan anyway, but when a Canadian MP flew to London that's part of a multinational effort to interrogate, Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook CEO failed to show big fish and a lot of small ponds every game in the world chess championship has ended in a draw which for the two best players on earth. Means the start of a whole new check mating dance and saved by the belles Nikola amid widespread confusion, one listener has the photos to prove it was once a festive tradition in part of Nova Scotia to go door to door freaking out, your neighbors with creepy masks as it happens. The Tuesday edition radio that guesses people really did enjoy some old fashioned Christmas docking. The last time. We spoke with Hassan Alcon tar he was living in the Kuala Lumpur airport. The Syrian man was stuck there. Malaysian authorities said his visa was expired. He had tried to go to Ecuador, but was not allowed on the flight. And so in the airport, he remained four seven months and then last month he was arrested by Malaysian authorities. The Canadians who are trying to bring him here feared he would be to port it to Syria. Here's what Lori Cooper told as it happens at the time. It's very it's very real. So side of our daily existence. You know, I'm a Canadian mom. Never thought that I would be in a position where I am fighting. I'm just faking the government to step in well last night Hassan El con landed in Vancouver. He is staying with Lori Cooper, the volunteer who has helped him for months in Whistler. And that is where we reached him Hudson. Welcome to Canada. Thank you very much. How are you doing here? How's the first hours in this country? Overwhelming. And for the first time, I realized that sometimes that life is more beautiful than the dream itself. It's a missed the feeling of being safe and. Legal and come back to me now. And it's overwhelming, and it's very nice feeding exiting when that plane that brought you here last night arrived in Vancouver. What was going through your mind? I could not believe it for a second. It was very difficult journey for the last eight years and with the head of the group of tears, Laurie kuprin, Mr. Andrew prowler, the they made it, and I felt that I can relax now to be free talk in the roads every morning and just have some fish. It's thinks I wasn't missing the most. And since said the I did not sleep yet. And I just went outside like ten times. You were living in that airport for seven months for the last two months you've been held in detention. Did you have any sense after being taken from that airport put into detention of what was in store for you? And the tension. It was difficult because I was in God canoe on west inning anything. But I got the feeling that the people on and Canada. They are absolutely doing whatever they can. But thoughts we come to because you had nothing to do. But thinking, and you need to think of the worst, but deep inside I knew that I would make how were you treated in detention in general, it's the most difficult heart punishment will give someone to just to button in a room and. It's it's it's hard. And I'm trying just to keep positive not to think of it too much because it was not only my story. You will come to know other people all people from other countries. And you'll know that you are not the only person who suffering and somehow you'll realize that you are lucky. I am lucky to have a group of supporter, and because my problem will be sold, but their problems will be more difficult. Those those supporters in volunteers were worried that you might be deported back to Syria. What were you thinking about that they wear more than me because they were aware of what's going on? I was not aware that much. I knew that there's some threat of deporting me, but I knew that they will do their best to bring me here. And so I did not that much where where does your optimism? Come from Hudson. After everything you've been through. How did you maintain that optimism? It's a hard question because it's something you feel but you cannot find the words to explain it. I think believe in what you are doing as a human. I was asking for mine. Minimum human rights to be legal and safe that what what I was asking for. So I believed in what I'm doing. And for the first time I become in love with what I am doing. Just trying to explain that. If crisis all over the world, not only might situation so the harder the battle of the sweeter the victory when you were in the airport for all those months, you were documenting your life on social media. He did it with such humor. You showed the world. Your knitting projects. We saw you cutting your own hair in the bathroom. We saw you dancing to Drake in the airport corridor. But, but there was there was also sadness and frustration in those posts. Why did you want to share all of that people? They have their own life, and they have their own problems. So I did not want to be an additional worry or additional sad story. I was trying to explain to complain. So people will get on the stand what's going on really with fusion and with the national low and the national system in general and how with failed us. There was a lot of sad moments. But I was trying not to show it can you briefly tell us what was going on. How was that you were stranded in an airport for all of those months? It's story with two faces. Both will lead you to the same conclusion that personal face and the general one I'm holding a piece of document, say's that I I'm a Syrian and for that, the international low and community was judging me and other Syrians, not because of our own crimes and stakes. I was working in UAE from two thousand six until I lost my work permanent of the season were start. So in two thousand seventeen they deport me to Malaysia. Again, I could not have a work permit in Malaysia. I was trying to go to Ecuador to align allow me to board. And then I tried to go to composed. Yeah. Cambodia sent me back to Malaysian. I could not enter Malaysia again. And there was literally no other country except me without visa, so I got stuck there. This whole time. There was a Canadian woman. Laurie Cooper who is trying to help you in April. You told as it happens that Lori Cooper made you believe in humanity again. So I'm wondering what it was like when you finally met her in person last night when people speak about told they speak about feelings, but they never had a photo Foret. Now, when I speak about I got a photo of Laurie and my mind, so. She become with other volunteers and the lawyer that face of hope, she's incredible. And you're living with her now. Yes, we have a half hour Cup of coffee this morning. And we both can't believe that we finally met as sitting together. So things are still a little bit crazy. I could not sleep secretly. I blame. I blamed here for that. Because it was a very warm, comfortable and clean. I need to get used to that again. Because the last nine months I was leaving the floor. So I blame the bed. She she. She's my Canadian mother, and I totally feel that what are the first things that you're going to do in this new life? I need to a lot on the street. I'm also exciting to start quickly my new life and to show the Canadian people that again bay them back by respect their traditions and way methods of life and to leeann about your history and become a good member in this society and to show them. They did the right choice. That's what my target now. And I cannot wait to start working on that you have a job offer. Yes. It's an amazing. There was a period of time where I was illegal not safe hiding with no orc with no financial support. And now I have I am safe legal and they have the job. So it's all. I was asking for and then I get it's the basic package. I added all well has and a lot of people wish you the best of luck. And thank you for sharing your incredible story with us. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. We reached Hassan Alcon. Tar in with ller for more on the story, including our original conversation with us hand back in April of this year. Go to our website, CBC dot CA slash AH. Union chief Jerry dice says there is still a chance to change GM's mind about closing its plant in Oshawa but doing that might take more stick than carrot. Mr. dia spoke to reporters today after meeting with prime minister Justin Trudeau on here is part of what he had to say. The argument today of prime ministers. This is not a time for us to believe that there's no options because there's all kinds of options. I mean alternately GM has to make a change of decision. A change of tact. The try minister has spoken to the president of the United States, and we are encouraging for candy United States get into one room to figure out how we're gonna tackle the elephant in the room, which is the low labor standards in Mexico. They have chosen as they have historically to ensure that they will build cars and Mexico. To exploit the Ronin ploice. So we talk today about getting General Motors attention to my head of my way, we would have mass actions in the GM assembly plants in both sides of the border. We have also said to the prime minister of what she should raise with the president of the United States. That have been fact GM does not modify their position, then we should look at significant tariffs on export a GM vehicles from Mexico in order to get their attention because it's clear that General Motors would preferred to build cars and Mexico and ship them to United States and Canada, then maintain a strong footprint in the United States and Canada that was uniform president Jerry dyas speaking to reporters today about the closure of the GM assembly plant in auto Ontario. The deal for Paul Manafort is off the table that is what US special counsel. Robert Muller is arguing this week accusing president Donald Trump's former campaign manager of lying repeatedly to federal prosecutors in September. Of course, Mr. Manafort signed a plea agreement and in that he agreed to cooperate with Mr. Muller and pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges related to money. He earned from consulting work on behalf of pro Russia politicians in Ukraine that plea deal was seen as a potential boon for Mr. Muller who is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 US presidential election as well as possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow while now that arrangement appears to have collapsed. Mimi Roca is a former federal prosecutor we reached her in New York City, MS Rocca, just a couple of months ago. Paul Manafort reached the best possible. Deal. He could with Bob Miller. Why would Mr. Manafort risk losing, the only lifeline? He had. Well, it's hard to know. A why people love these kind of deals, but in my experience, there's a couple of different possibilities one year that I don't think is present in most cases is that he's hoping for some kind of apart from the president anything that by breaking out of this. Now, maybe showing the president that you know, he he's not going to incriminate anybody. Our people can incriminate that the president might care about the second. And and this is something I saw pretty commonly as a prosecutor is people who cooperate willing to complete out everything they understand deter the fact that the government has more evidence on them. And they thought they did. And so they're they're truthful people. However, and this is true war. Commonly I would say with people who commit fraud crimes, which Manafort has done for most of his life. They still say that can hold back on some things tell the government. Most of what I did. But not everything can get away with it. I explain it away that may be what's going on here. And maybe thinks he can get away with it still Mr. Muller's team uses some pretty tough language at accuses Mr. Manafort of quote, crimes and lies in direct breach of the plea deal. Can you tell us how big these crimes in lies would have to be before the deal would be breached? The government doesn't cooperation agreement. Just because the stakes are forgets. Things government does that when someone liberally lies and usually about something pretty material to the investigation or more than one thing here. You know, they did use close. So it sounds like more than one thing. I don't think Miller. And his team. Would it would would accuse Manafort or go to shop if they could really truth pretty definitively that these were alive because they will have to justify that likely to court. So when Mr. Manafort lawyers argue that he believes he's provided truthful information, how would you assess how the court will look on that first of all this isn't a subjective thing or one believes or does it if the government is saying he lied, they likely have definitive proof of that. And Manafort belief is irrelevant. And also, what's interesting phrasing. Is it could be that he provided some truthful useful information, but it also could be that he hasn't in other areas, and it's holding back or the line about other things with the plea deal off what is Paul Manafort facing now facing decades in prison now, whereas under the plea agreement the government should agree to. To ask for the sentences of two cases to run current meeting run at the same time. They're now under no obligation to do that. And he's possibly looking at additional time for crimes of lying or an amendment. The judge asking for some kind of enhancement to his sentence because of the lies you mentioned the possibility that Mr. Manafort may be hoping for a presidential pardon would a presidential pardon. Get him off the hook not completely there. Still are state crimes that he is implicated and the assets that had been seized or forfeited from him from the federal government. He would not get those back in any way. What about for Mr. molar is this a blow to his efforts? This was supposed to be a key witness. A key collaborator has this hurt. His investigation question that it. It's not a good thing. For more news team in the sense that I don't think they would have taken. Time in the effort and the energy to sign Manafort cooperator, if they didn't want him o'clock writer, but you we just don't know right now. Extent of Moore's other evidence pertaining to whatever crimes Manafort was going to be helpful in providing information about but again. Information evidence, independent of Manafort is better than anyone understands at this point. Because dot is what is allowing them to definitively say Manafort lied, and for them to say it in such a strong way that they have. So the government likes to have cooperators. Nice to have a narrator. Nice to have someone on the inside. Explain things to tell the story. But that doesn't mean that there isn't evidence independent of dot cooperator. I want to ask you about a report today in the guardian newspaper CBC has not corroborated this independently. But the guardian is reporting that Paul Manafort met with WikiLeaks, Julian Assange several times over the years. One of those meetings was in twenty sixteen just before WikiLeaks published a trove of hacked documents from the DNC the Democratic National Committee. It was also around the time that Mr. Manafort joined the Trump campaign now Manafort has always denied having anything to do with that leak, but how significant is this report? It's very significant. If it's true, it's one of the first direct communications between someone in the Trump campaign, and you know, WikiLeaks, which we now know through Muller's other charges violence was a direct trying to it for the distribution of the hacked emails. So it serves sounds like something that is more than just a coincidence. And this obviously something that I'm sure the government would have funded Manafort to be able to explain but again, just because he's not doing explaining or not doing a truthfully doesn't mean they don't have other evidence to connect those dots. But I think we will learn we know will learn more about it at a minimum fencing of Manafort, my son says that you're going to want these facts to become public miserable. Thank you for your insight and your time today. Thank you. Bye bye. Mimi Roca is a former federal prosecutor, we reach for in New York City, and we have more on this story on our website, CBC dot CA slash A. H? Last week. We told you about the Mary Nova Scotian tradition of sniffling we had to tell you about it as in inform you of its existence because despite its suppose status as a time owner tradition. Very few Nova Scotian Scotia's, myself included seemed to have ever heard of it. But Anna ritzy has she even has photographic evidence of Nova Scotian Belot colling dating back to nineteen seventy six when she lived in riverport, we reached msrp in Quebec City and this program has cast aspersions on the popularity of bell sniffling in Nova Scotia. But you've seen it with your own eyes. Is that right? That's right. Yes. I was listening to your podcast, and I was quite shaken by your questioning whether best making was really a true Nova Scotia tradition. You were saying I was in bed and. Almost head to get up right away. And look for the photographic evidence. But I did resist the temptation and waited till the next day. What was it the the Shuki so much? Why did you feel the need to defend this tradition? Well, I guess sick me was that. How how could it be that everybody didn't know about this? When I did, I guess the last time that my parents went best Nick link from the photo, I found was around nineteen seventy six but still I just thought everybody knew about it. And when I heard you saying that maybe it didn't ever exist in Nova Scotian. This was either some mistake or something dreamed up on the internet. I just thought how can it be? How can it be that people don't know about this? Tell me your memories of this tradition. Well, my memories the tradition was actually thinking my parents, silly silly dressed up, but it was just part of Christmas. I mean, I grew up in relatively small village where everybody knows everybody and so Christmas you go door to door to visit people and. This is just part of the tradition. You dress up. So people have to guess who you are. And but the real ideas to just have a drink with some friends. But yeah, it was just part of the part of the Trish, I knew it was an older tradition. And when I was growing up not everybody, did it a few people did it, but it had been more prevalent before generations before that. Okay. So you provided us with the proof you dug up the photo. Now. It's interesting that you say it's just about visiting going door to door and you get a drink. I've seen this photo. It's a little bit more than that. I sent the picture to my brother to see if he remembered, and he said that it was going to keep them sleeping. But. Okay. So it's not just me. I guess I didn't think of it as being spooky. But I guess if you take it. Yeah. I know who's behind the masks. So I guess that's why I wasn't so taken aback. Maybe it was just that. They were my parents weren't that all artistic and getting their disguise them up. But can you describe this photograph forests? Well, this I it looks older that it is because it's black and white. But that was because I was in photo club and developing and printing my own pictures. So I think they were wearing pillowcases, but it may be that they are skull of bags over their head with is cut out and skull up banks scholar. So these are cotton bags or used for scholarships from the stall fishing industry that the village I come from west, very active in scholar fishing at the time, and traditionally nickel does where I so my mother is the one wearing the coat and the other coast one of the friends of my parents is just looks like wearing pyjamas over warm clothes. I don't know if there was any veal dress code about snickering or not. But you say you believe that there was fern -volved. I think traditionally if you look at a best Nikko was which is a a German mystical kind of creature. I think they were clanton for when we talk about the photo. You took the photo. I took the photo. I was really interested in still am actually night. So I was always taking pictures around the home, and this was certainly picture worthy. My parents didn't go necessarily every year. So it was kind of a an exceptional thing to see my parents dressed up like this. So you were capturing a rare moment in your family apparently rarer than I thought that this was going on everywhere until I heard that Nova Scotia's themselves were contesting this tradition. So that's what I guess surprise me the most that it was even questionable whether bell snickering, really headaches. When you found the the photo. And and you send it to your brother what we're his memories. Well, he says he's two years older than I am. And he remembered was that the only time they went, and he said, no, no, no, our parents went more often than that. And I didn't remember other people coming to our house. But he says that other people had come to our house, but I I was younger. So maybe I wasn't up for that. They put the young ones to bed. That's right. So he did. Didn't he didn't know I had the picture, and he says the picture said that kind of a little scary for him. What do you think this tradition? Died out. Oh, I think it might be possibly because people have other things to do television other things to do maybe that neighbors don't know each other that well because that was part of it that you just drop in on announce to people that maybe do don't do that so much. What do you think the chances are of a revival of this tradition? I don't know. I live in Quebec City. So I guess I might get arrested. If I try here, I don't know we might get might get revived. But I don't know you have to see what the younger generation are into these days. I'm maybe they're not going to really go for it. Well, the pictures quite something thank you for sending at thanks for being in touch. No problem. I really enjoy your show. So when I heard something about Nova Scotia, something I knew something voted really piqued my interest. Thanks, okay. No problem. Can I? Might we reach Santa ritzy in Quebec City and to see the photograph of her parents Benesch nickel in the seventies. You can go to our website, CBC dot CA slash AH. GM may be all over the news these days, but the carmaker is not the only company reconsidering the future of its business in Canada in Calgary. Total energy services is closing five of its Canadian branches. The oilfield services firm blames a poor outlook for the Canadian industry. Brought on by oversupply and a lack of pipelines to get the stuff to market. Meanwhile, the company is making fresh investments in the United States. Dan, Hallaq is the CEO of total energy services. We reach Mr. Haluk in Calgary, Mr. Haluk when a company like yours starts closing branches. What does that say about the state of the oil industry in this country? I think it tells you there's there's deep fundamental problems. We've been around twenty two years we pride ourselves on not being quitters. But at some point the. The various factors headwinds are overwhelming. You say that you're not quitters. But there will be people who are saying you're bailing out at a time. Well, it's either close five branches their close them all that bad. It's out bad when you start closing branches. What does that mean for the employees who actually do a lot of the work getting Alberta? Crude out of the ground. So in the most extreme case that means you lose a job, and you're looking for work, in many cases, we are relocating employees to the United States, and some cases Australia, and these are one way relocations, and these are highly skilled typically more management positions that are leaving this country, not just from our business, but from the entire industry, and it is happening at an increasing and alarming rate, and these people are relocating families and chances are when you take root in another country. You're probably not gonna come back. You know when there's all the collateral damage. Susan, you know, every rig employs directly roughly twenty five to thirty people. You know, where do those people by their trucks, whereas our company by our trucks were we buy our pipe. Where do I buy our excess re's where do they stay where do they eat where to their kids go to school? You know, it it has very widespread impact. And you know, there's estimates that north of one hundred thousand private sector jobs have been lost. Now berta. I don't think anyone really knows the true number, and it's not just L Berta spec- northeast species scotch what these smaller communities, including Calgary are being devastated. You are a businessman and you've made that clear, but you're also a Canadian what's it like for you to be moving those jobs, south does a Canadian first and foremost at it makes me sick to see. What's happening? Not just with our company but innocent Susan what we're witnessing today is a massive transfer of wealth from Canadians to US, refiners and US energy consumers. We're also witnessed. A massive transfer of wealth from Canadians to four and oil and natural gas suppliers. We are selling our production in Canada at thirty cents on the dollar. We're just selling because we have one testament who will dictate the price as long as we have no options. Meanwhile, eastern Canada is paying estimates are fifty to seventy million dollars Canadian everyday more for imported foreign oil and natural gas and both of that. When you think about it is quite incredible and foolish the Canadian citizen perspective as a business person the end of the day, I need to go where the work is. And so for me to get on my soapbox and try and change hearts and minds and Canada, you know, that's a tall task. It's not what I'm paid to do. I'm happy that the press like you are interested now. But really at the end of the day. My job is to put our equipment people to work. And so. Economic gravity prevails over time. And what we're witnessing right now is a huge poll south and a huge pole internationally. And unfortunately, not pole is getting stronger and stronger every day this is because of the structural issues. So how do you account for those? There's a glut and there's no way to move the product because of the lack of pipelines in this country. So first of all we foresaw rising production, particularly and oil five years ago, but expectations were that reasonable rules, which are in place for the construction and development of infrastructre pipelines are in place, and I think every fair-minded reasonable balanced person expected pipelines to get built I don't think anyone would have foreseen the. Extreme difficulties we have in this country in constructing that infrastructure and so industry invested in good faith on the premise that reasonableness would prevail. And that's certainly not what's happened. And and the end result is production, particularly in the case of of larger projects, which take years to develop has now come on stream. What hasn't progressed is the construction of infrastructure, and that's a huge problem. And it's not a industry problem in the sense that industry was ready willing and able to invest in proceed it's been the political side that has failed where is the political failure in your view? Well, at the end of the day, I think I'm commenting on the process, and the process seems fixated on why we shouldn't as opposed to why we could and why is this good. And like I said it comes down to put. Leadership. I'm not gonna point at one government one politician. But I simply look at what other jurisdictions are doing, you know in Texas. I was down there three or four weeks ago. You know, they need pipelines. They build it. You know in Australia. I was there this summer they're building their drilling. And for some reason this country would become paralyzed. And so I don't think blaming anyone person or politician or group is gonna compass. I think as Canadians we have to make a decision. Do we want to sell our resources for pennies on the dollar? We do don't construct infrastructure. If we don't we need to build infrastructure. If the pipelines are not built and the US shale boom continues to flood the market there. What kind of future? Do you see for provinces like Albert and to some extent BC and scotch win? Well, first of all, I think it's it's negative for Canada. On a annual basis Alberta contributes net twenty billion dollars of tax revenue to the federation. You know, that's going to hurt other provinces. You know, the energy sector is one of the largest if not the largest direct contributors to GDP ask the bankers ask the steel suppliers. The auto manufacturers who supply trucks the equipment to steal the pipe. This is a Canadian problem. It's not an Berta scotch and our BC problem. Mr halley. Thank you very much. Thank you for your interest. Susan. By now. John Hallaq is the CEO of total energy services. We reach Mr. Haluk in Calgary. New BBC's series inside the foreign office takes the viewer inside one of the UK's busiest departments. And the latest episode really takes you behind the curtain episode follows Boris Johnson in Lisbon and at the time of filming Mr. Johnson was still serving as the UK's foreign secretary his glad handing smiling for the camera putting on the charm offensive. And at one point he takes a quick break to film, a pro shnell videos selling the UK's strong ties to Portugal mister Johnson's office did eventually post to Twitter, but the BBC captured the rough cut the very rough cut. Here's a clip the full meeting up with the economy minister, the foreign secretary has to do a quick filming his official Twitter feed. Exports Johnson for secretary. I'm here in this Portugal. To celebrate what is the oldest alliance and friendship in diplomatic history. Back to eighty six. Going forward through the podium through to the second. This was a place with. Neutral. These oils secretary. Is. Biggest trading Portugal, which is not awful. Ex exports jolts here in this book. James himself was said to be fooled Esterel and today. Jiang sepals. What? James was born. It's a great friendship. It's a great punishment. It's built on shared values and gonna take the tyranny of the Twitter feeds is relentless exports Johnson here, I'm in Paris. Which is of course, closest European? Folks that was Boris Johnson. Former UK foreign secretary filming several takes four promotional, videos, and Lisbon and Paris. Those takes captured by BBC camera people for a new television series called inside the foreign office. If you think it's boring when a soccer game ends in a tie. Don't get into chess at the ongoing world chess championship between American Fabio animal kinda wanna and Norwegian Magnus Carlsen all twelve games have ended in draws the last match was yesterday, and it caused much consternation in the chess world most observers thought that Mr Karlsson was clearly winning when he made the offer of a draw. The whole shebang is not going to be decided tomorrow in the final match between the two culminating in a series of tiebreakers and a game type known known at all dramatically as Armageddon MAURICE actually is a chess grandmaster and play by play announcer. We reached him in Saint Louis Loris. Ashley before we begin wanna play. You a clip of how you reacted when Magnus Carlsen offered a draw at yesterday's match. Have a great. What? Are you saying what? So what was going through your head at that moment? Say the game was very exciting. Magnus head gotten a real advantage in the physician. He also had a very big advantage on the clock. So when we heard that it just been agreed on as a draw by the players. So we were all very stunned by it. I note that even Gary casper off called what Carlson did hear a shocking draw. Why was it such a shock so unexpected imagine you're playing one game for the world championship title? And you get an advantage. That is serious. You could look at it and see that he was the one with all the the fighting possibilities to make all the punches his opponent was fully on the defensive. And when you have that kind of advantage where you can think as much as you want your Ponant is suffering and squirming and begging for some kind of relief. Give him the lifeline and say, hey, would you like a draw? I mean, not seems stunning Novo. Calls knows that he has an advantage in the tiebreaks that is going to be easier for him to play because he's so good at playing quicker chess. It just seems stunning that he would give away that kind of advantage. So as you say he seemed to be an expert at rapid chess. So could this have been a strategic move on his part to to get to get? There clearly is I mean, that's what he wanted. He just wanted to get to rapid chess. Where is only twenty five minutes per side on the clock, and he's incredibly instinctive and Fabio no is not known to be good at that. He's more for thinker. He needs to analyze various possibility take his time. So you don't to buy the argument that he just lost his nerve. I think he loves objectivity. I you know, that's related to nerve. I don't know. But I think he came in with one set plan in mind, and it was to draw the game not to lose winning irrelevant just draw the game walk. Out of there with an equal score. So you could get to where he had an advantage. It's hard for me. I'm befuddled as everyone else that the greatest player of our generation could have a situation that normally he would spank whoever he was sitting across from he decided to back down. I see that test game. What's an honorable move d think? It was a practical one total pragmatism on his part. And I think it's kind of just that is a sign of the times, and you have a situation where a lot of players you low back in the past Kasparov or chrome Nacre tall, the famous gladiators of the past who or Bobby Fisher, especially you put a position in front of a guy like Fisher kill, you know, matter what he don't care about any competitive situation. He would be way ahead of people and say, I'm gonna destroy you even more. I wanna I only need a draw to win. But I wanna win. You know, it makes it makes us feel like something a little bit of shine. It you can't just keep having draws in championships. It's not just this one the last championship between cars link our yak in there were tendrils out of twelve game. So at the C two wins out of twenty four games in the world championship. That's really not satisfying for fam-. Just about to ask you what it's been like for you to watch this world championship. I'm a commentator. I'm commenting on the event live it so to make it fun for the fans along with my colleagues. We're trying to keep everyone engaged and there have been some exciting games. But we need wins. People wanna see them wins. And it's very hard to every day. Keep convincing folks that yes, draw was really exciting and use it come back and watch tomorrow. Okay. Let's look ahead to tomorrow and all the excitement I understand that it's going to be through a series of faster and faster games this championship. And it ends in. What's called an Armageddon? Can you decipher that for all of us? It may never get to that. So we start off with four rapid games. Twenty five minutes on the clock for each side. Now, let's say each side wins two games or the way they've been going drawl for than they then go to blitz. Five minutes on the clock where each side and now that's super fast Ugo, you're playing solely on instinct and some calculation you just gotta play play mistakes will get made there. But if they're tied again, they do that again five times, we'll be there forever. Watching these guys. Each other in the face, or at least. Finally like through all that. Which is then we go to what's called Armageddon where white gets five minutes black gets four minutes. And because white goes first White's theoretically has an advantage and practically has an advantage in chess. But white must win the game. If it's a draw then black wins the championship. That's the end. That's why it's Armegeddon. You've got me. I'm hooked. I've enjoyed our conversation. Thank you so much. Thank you. Maurice Ashley is chess. Grandmaster we reached him in Saint Louis. But music is probably how he felt like a one man combination of JAMES BOND and q with the fancy high tech cloaking device. But now Robert Craig Davis probably feels like this. Enough this past summer. A couple of drivers on the dolphin expressway. Toll road in Florida noticed something about the minivan in front of them when a passed under the toll cameras, its license plate was covered. And then later, it was uncovered. So the kept following the minivan and started taking video. Yes. A new assault something. Yes. And what the couple were seeing was a black cover sliding down over the license plate as van approached another set of toll cameras, and then after the cameras were safely behind the cover would slide back up. They sent their video to Florida police, but it wasn't until ten days ago that an off duty officer actually witnessed the same thing himself and called his on duty colleagues who pulled Robert Craig Davis over an inside his van they found a remote control Gizmo that operated the license cover. Now, you might wonder why they hadn't already traced the license plates while they tried but the plate in the words of the Miami CBS affiliate quote came back to an address where Davis did not live so allegedly Mr. Davis didn't just cover as plates, but also his tracks and his bases. According to the Florida police he is just one of many using this kind of technology to avoid. Paying tolls. And if you're caught there's an automatic fine. Plus, you may have to pay all the tolls you got out of paying in one go so it made feel brilliantly cloak and dagger to try to avoid detection with a fancy plate hiding gadget. But slick as you think you are you are not JAMES BOND. So someone is going to blow your undercover operation. Nineteen Eighty-four thirteen year old Candice, Dirksen was walking home from school and she disappeared. It would be more than six weeks before her body was found in a shed near her home this week thirty four years after her death a space called Candice house had its grand opening in Winnipeg. It is described as a day refuge, a home with a kitchen, couches blankets books, and plants where victims and survivors of crime can spend time while they are going through the Justice system. The courthouse is nearby. Wilma? Derksen is Candace his mother she spoke with CBC reporter Marianne clawback at Candice house yesterday about the opening. It's beauty. It's it's Sahra. It's remembering all the grief that we went through. It's just also the I think I'm grieving the old friends that I had family survivors of home aside where we were together in the beginning. And we needed this place. We were in dark church basements meeting together. And just we shuffled around like refugees within the system, and this is such a place such filled our need, so beautifully. Just and now it's a reality. I. Believe it. I just I go around and just amazed. I think it's a miracle to me it's America that there's a place that exists like that. That was in my dreams. I didn't even know what might cream really look. So no, I know. And it's just it's overwhelming. Is there is there more coming after this? There's this it. Well, this is a pilot project that we don't know of whether it exists anywhere else in the world. And we've looked and I've looked and I've been keeping my eyes up because there was a unique very unique Pat project, that's, you know, very adapted to the needs very carefully thought through years of thinking through years of taking notes. Okay. Now, this is what victims need at this time at this time in at this time and watching on south going student. So I think it's only the first phase two cents kennison's presence. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I do. So interesting to hear other people feel but yes, very much Candace loved people. And so the very first thing that we did as a board to say we wanted corporate candidates spirit because she had the right spirit. She could talk to anybody. She could love everybody. If as even at a as a four year old wit move into a community, and we didn't know anybody in the community. She would take all the pots and pans at the house did put them on the front step and should Bank them and. Can is what are you doing and say, wait, mom, all the kids would come out side? Fires. She had that instinct and that unusual love for people. I was a Wilma Derksen speaking with CBC Winnipeg's Marianne clawback. Today elected representatives from nine countries gathered at the UK parliament, they were there to question Mark Zuckerberg about the way his network is being used to undermine democracies around the world. Mr. Zuckerberg, however didn't show an empty chair was left out as a symbol of the Facebook CEO's absence and one of Facebook vice presidents Richard Alan took the questions instead. And here is Mr. Allen responding to the suggestion that he was deflecting criticism instead of swimming responsibility for his company's impact on our democratic institutions. I accept the Carter again just just to be clear. We have told our investors we told them all kit the whale making investments in infrastructure and people we now have thirty thousand people wiccan safety security, one hundred fifteen pages in the midterm elections in the US, you still have the pull down. My question is is how. Did they have an influence on that election? It was pulled in two days before the election actually happened. There was to media reports of Cambridge on Linda, this is the group that's supposed to be bad for Facebook. Still ran ads under that banner for two weeks. And it wasn't caught by the thirteen billion dollar quarterly company. That's faced do you answer. Those questions. Just another apology. We're making those investments I think again, this goes, the we now have I think a leading security team who have finding catching those people in taking them down. And if we tell you about well, how did they get on that? Well, they get on that because they are coming and clever, and we need to stay ahead of the that was Facebook the P Richard Alan responding to questions from Canadian conservative MP Bob Zimmer on this afternoon in the UK parliament, we reach Bob Zimmer in London earlier today. Mr. Zimmer how satisfied are you with the responses that you and your fellow elected representatives got from Facebook, not very, you know, I was impressive Mr. L and actually showed up today. That's a lot more than Mr. Zuckerberg chose seduce. So I appreciate his taking it on the chin for the team for the Facebook team. But I think the amount of questions he wasn't able to answer that only people like Mark Zuckerberg samba can answer just again confirmed. Mrs October should have been in that chair. Well, let me ask you about that. Why are you so disappointed? That Mark Zuckerberg did not show up. He's a busy, man. You don't have the power to subpoena him in that committee. Why so disappointed he sent his vice president, I guess for the you know, when Damien I signed our original requests after we've already asked our particular countries before this. So we thought collectively we're going to represent almost one hundred million people that that would be enough to have him sit in a chair for a couple of hours. And now today when we represent over four hundred million people as elected officials, again, it's not just us sitting in that room, we represent the populations of our communities in our countries. And if he if it's not pardon for him enough to just sit there and answer some basic questions for us. I don't know. What is Mr. Ellen told you that he agreed that it didn't look great that Mr.? Zuckerberg did not show up. Do you think Facebook is rethinking its strategy? I don't know. I think from the New York Times article the denied deflect article that I was referring to testimony. It seems to be a culture within the company as just Canadian term rag the puck long enough people get tired, and they just continue to do what they've always done without changing much. So it seems to be the the corporate attitude. That's what they seem to want to do combined with an attitude as Mark Zuckerberg said when we talked about getting my biggest concern is it's thunder democracies around the globe to have him say, look, we don't really think or I don't really think we've had that big of an effect this ter- Alan, actually, affirming that today by saying, well, you know, there's a whole bunch of other actors that are much more influential than to start platform. I don't think they really get it. What are you worried about that might still be out there for? Us to find out about Facebook documents in the UK that we're privy to that. I can't speak to you right now just one of their apps. It was allowed on their platform. And again, it's just more more and more evidence that's really being stacked up against Facebook and its practices. Have you seen the documents? I have how concerned should people be based on what you've seen in the documents all the tests. All the money based on everything that we've heard I think people have to be concerned in a few as I guess being. Maybe it's reality that we're accepting that they have access to our data. But the manipulation. Excuse me, people into mockeries around the world, and the the susceptibility to be manipulated as the concern because we even in Canada, we're susceptible to the Americans are susceptible to it in the midterms just a a month ago. So that's my big concern as it were still. It hasn't been fixed. We're still at its mercy. How vulnerable do you think candidates to to the kind of electoral manipulation that that we've seen evidence of in the last two US elections and the allegations about the Brexit campaign? How vulnerable is Canada? While I use the example of Zimmer that's me as a northern riding. If somebody around the globe, doesn't like a particular policy of the example, maybe a pro resource policy, and then the Americans who are our biggest competitor. Maybe Russia whatever, and they could individually target MP's like myself run ads that look like they're from my next door neighbor in Dawson creek looks like somebody that's legitimate. But really the answer bond paid for other in the US or Russia, and that's still can happen today. And they have the ability to do it on a massive scale. I think with algorithms it is just you know, the idol ad they can dump millions of dollars into political campaigns in Canada. Specifically to have a certain result. Spit out the other other end of October twenty first so we have. I think we have a lot of work to do in Canada. Just what kind of rules regulations we need to have to really curb this. Because again, I said by Dunham information Commissioner for Brenton is that the time for self policing is over so now it's up to us. Do you think mister Zimmer that lawmakers dropped the ball on this? And and and let it get too far out of control before you turned your attention to it. Yeah. I think so I think we didn't fully understand. I was elected in twenty eleven. I don't think we fully understood the ability of them to weaponize. Term that Ivy is that many others. I don't think we fully understood the ability and the scale at which they could weaponize the platform I made the comment today. Again, if there was only good people in the world, we wouldn't be having this conversation. But the fact of the matter is there's bad people in the world that well misuse apply. From like Facebook for their ends, Charlie Angus, your your colleague in parliament thinks that Facebook should be dismantled. That's the solution d agree. He didn't specify what Charlie is talking to. It's it's not necessarily this Mansell what he's saying as the antitrust provisions should not allow them to keep building the monopoly this Facebook like adding Instagram for their for folio and all these other. So. There isn't many options for the regular citizen. If Facebook isn't a place, they feel safe the next ply from they may pick also rabbit audited by Facebook. So that's what Charlie was getting at us. They're getting so big. No, no alternative people anymore. That's a concern. Mr zimmer. Thank you for your time today. Thank you have a good night. Thanks for the privilege. Thanks bye. Bye. Zimmer is a Canadian conservative MP. We reached him on the streets of London town earlier today and for more on this story. Go to our website, CBC dot CA C AH or you could look for it on our Facebook fade. You've been listening to the as it happens podcast. Our show can be heard Monday to Friday on CBC radio one and Sirius XM you can also listen to the whole show on the web. You just go to CBC dot CA slash eight and follow the links to our online archive. Thanks for listening. I'm Susan Bonner. And I'm Jeff Douglas. For more CBC podcasts. Goto CBC dot CA slash podcasts.

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RHONY: Ramona Wants To Help America

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RHONY: Ramona Wants To Help America

"Was crafted. Have Been. So, much. took. This. Hey Welcome to watch crap ends podcasts about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch I'm Ben. Mandil. Kerr of the real housewares, the kitchen island, and also the game podcast and joining me is the wonderful and hilarious. Ronnie. Harem. Ronnie. Well, hello, another grand entrance for Ronnie on crap on demand because this recap you you. You can listen to it. You can also watch it go to Patriot, dot com slash watch crap at if you sign up on crap, it's on demand you can watch this like right now you see that Ronnie is in a Nice Pink shirt with a stereo on it and I've got my Ramona shirt on and the other thing with on demand that you get access to all all sorts of stuff like the bonus episode. This week's bonus episode we went all in on all and we talked all about Teddy Mellencamp and whatever MLM. She's running there You also get access to the discord described server is full lots of chatter last week there was like a little zoom session that I participated in and that was really fun So there's a whole bunch of fun stuff. So go to patriots dot com slash watch crap INS, and by the way we have to say a huge thank you to everyone who tuned in and watched us on watch what happens live this week it was such a fun surreal thing we had so much fun. Everyone was so kind to us on social media centers the Nice messages. The nicest comments we also had great ratings to. Really. Really cool that all all these. Listeners of not only our podcast but irony Danny's as well. All came together and support other women. Okay. So thank you. That was so fun and it was so fun. Yeah that really was fine. I'm glad it's over because it was nerve wracking but yeah, totally fine can't wait to just go back to making fun of people. Yeah but yeah, that was that was really fun. So thanks everybody for your support the all in on teddy thing was so funny because we basically ended up just talking about our own canning. Whole time and then I totally ordered fast food the second it was done. So fuck you teddy. You Teddy Mellon cap because I had a good thing going until we talked about your stupid diet even talking about your diet. Made Me Fat Daddy. Okay. Yeah. There was some other house I've news that broke NIIMI is officially quitting Atlanta which I guess is big news but accept the fact that I thought was already announced. So we care we didn't. We already know that literally already knew ask season he w put at the top of their side like needy leaks leads Atlanta, Mike. We already knew this and also no one cares like that's the sort of news that I feel like. Like people who don't really know about the housewives think of big news because they know who need leaks is and they're like Oh my God, you need weeks leaving but people who actually watched the house or like no one cares and began with her she's awful. So like literally don't care about that second ball are actually carrying somewhat, which is funny because as housewives bringing, you know when you watch these shows at the end of the season, we all bleed our brains and we forget everything bad that everyone did. The next year we're like Oh, my God and we're the same. You know especially with Atlantic because the beginning of every year we're like, Oh, when he finally comes back in the middle of the she does like half years. Back RECCO NIIMI so fun again isn't it nice to have any interest? Or holding out hope for funding. And she she makes it about two weeks before she becomes awful. But by the end of the season, we were like just go. Slamming down her laptop and like just being horrible to have not taking accountability of fucking teddy for anything that she does and then yeah. Couple months later people are like, I'm just so sad about any leaving like come on John. For it, we have the memories of. is also the second time she's left We actually put up a poll on Instagram at water crap INS and We asked what you care more about me leaving real housewives or to Challah making a nest because the channel made a new nests and it was on Charles Instagram. Eighty five percent care more about Challah and the actual numbers on that are that sixty three hundred people care more about the Charles Nests, to the eleven hundred people who care about any. So there is that sh Also, we have some some hot guys that is also GONNA leave us all little disappointed because we don't know really how pans out but I heard from our old Fred old queen at the bar. That Lisa Vander pump and Kyle Richards were both at the Polo Lounge together I'm sorry at the same time but not together. So we don't know how that pans out and I'm just I'm begging if anyone was there if anyone saw it. Tell us how awkward it was that they were in the same restaurant at the same time because Lisa renting muster showed up because that's like her favorite place there every day. That's like. She loves that place she's always there will famously went to the Polo Lounge and encountered Lisa rented there with Countess. Luanne. So I mean it's a place for so many things can happen so magic. Yep Place I. Love How much they just hate gay people skip goingto Pepsi Housewives. We're terrible. Wow. You don't want to give gay people any rights? Can't take away our right to see a housewife in the wild. That's right. You know they may hate gay people but I'll tell you one thing about the Polo Lounge. They sure know how to serve up a solid from one thousand nine, hundred, three, fifty dollars. That's really do you live there. Remember that time we ordered like fish tacos and they were I swear to you corn tortillas this it Teddy Diet was all in with daddy they were like corn. Like this vague like making the okay sign and then like one little sliver of tuna on it and I think there were three and it was like sixty bucks. Yeah. It's like we have a big revolutionary plan for the menu what the Polo Lounge Centra tomatoes like. Okay. Yeah. We're going to wrap some steak and breading Salmon Mousse. Or Jumbo, shrimp cocktail, they love their shrimp cocktail to. Yes. But this is not about bashing the Polo Lounge or the Lord knows we could definitely do that. Care This is about real housewives of New York which is I was going to say as the Polo Lounge Beverly of of Bravo but no, it's the. Restaurant is at Bravo, but it's a very good restaurants probably the best restaurant on the block. Very that's a James Beard Award. Winning restaurant that Padma Lakshmi goes to brags about where friends. Is a Burrito is a Burrito it's. Dog. All right. So here we go and we know this is going to be a super positive our because it opens where we left off last week with her into going Tinsley is. Life. I would never want to be in a coup dependent relationship with no financial security awaiting for a man to come to my rescue not during to what is it again, you do for work just telling me nothing. WHO's lived off of to rich man. Okay. And how's your bitching about being flooding? Who bought that? Okay. Your husband, why lease was it a rich husband? Oh Her know her dad was a mailman, right? Yes. He grew up poor in the BERKSHIRES and now she lives in the fucking mansion. She always dreamed of having passed yet when her dad was a mailman she told that story on the show and I don't mind I. don't mind someone who is like wealthy and living off of other people like go. Do it live your life live like you did it you found someone who pays you just to like sit around the dream but I don't shame someone when you are literally doing the same thing like the least people like Tamra or like Gretchen would say things like. Well. I'm a realtor or I used to be a realtor or even someone like Lonzo well used to be a nurse or there's A nurse but during the what what do? A realtor actually. Okay From what I gather over the years. With she was with the first Guy Ralph, would the guy with the Tartan I would die before US routes cotton. See was with Ralph and then moved to London. She had a cashmere company and then divorced him or he divorced her however that happened and then she ended up meeting Richard while she was showing him house I think that would have the story. Is I obviously I clearly don't in my head. Yeah because I. have no memory for this. So maybe it was just in my head. Anyway, yeah, you know look it's easy. It's easy. It's easy to date a rich guys a poor guy. So data rich guy like what do I? You're right yeah. Her shaming and tensely also really rich on her own she was not just yet airing from any. Also. Married from. So you know goes down year to year he's worth like thirty million dollars or something. Literally starred in a reality show called high-society. Okay. She's rich. She rich she like her her her last name is mortimer and Dale's last name is what sales last name. Or something it's it's gotta be. It's like it's like two very rich names I forgot Dale's lap mercer like costs, L. Mercer Mortimer, and Mercer. Those are so rich they like isn't there a mercer place they sound like streets in New York if you sound like a street in Manhattan, you're rich. Sorry like does anyone. GRAMMERCY and they're poor I don't think. So my name is Rhonda thirty. Right. So? Yeah. So she's trying to like money Shane, Tinsley Antenna. You'd know that Tinsley so rats because he doesn't even say like I'm rich idiot like that's how ritzy is he's just like, okay. Let this lady with a flooded house. Think I'm poor. Yeah, exactly. And is like Well. If you think the relationship is unhealthy why not say that to the other women and renders like yeah. Well, we sign you up for a show where we have to be transparent. Tell you dating someone I don't WanNa talk about it anyway. Sonia Ni- she knew she was still she knew she was his seeing Scott and I went to a terrible time this fall as Ramona knows and then Ramona jumps in. Never Shit, you break up a drawn. Okay. You know what you went out with him. Years Gears you know what and you never share it. Okay. Never I never lied literally leaving Candy I never lie. And then we see her walking in the park with lamb in the clip and they're looking at pave sex, and during this just. So excited to be paid sixty now it's like and read. The magic taking a break from. To. Do to do with this sound. Yeah. You? Ramona's only too happy to say, well, you know what? We have to find out a page six. Okay. At least you didn't have to find out a page six I. So, then to render starts doing what every victim mentality starts doing whenever they're caught, she's like. No what my house fled. Z. Break up we'll. So I mean it's going come out. Broking has flooded rib. Even Pini Relationship John and then my friend Greg Planning that story you know Greg Eho he made the decision for me and so I, may not have been forthright. Solid and King's delay. It sets the last reunion she Scott, and then we know the next day she was Scott. Okay. Get the track what's going on? Like. Wow. You really know everything about her. This whole four she's like I was like I may not have been forthright but at least I was I was honest I guess lying lying. Yeah and also like that's what Tinsley you could say the same Burton's lead I. Don't think she ever really lies just like I. Don't want to share it with this unsupportive bitch who is going to make my life hell and like. I just want to like I kind of want to put my relationship with Scott box and hope it does well, and I don't want this situation to ruin us to try to ruin it. You know I think is a like yes. On a reality show, she should may be share more of that but I also understand on a human level why should want to do that? I mean, tensely, we knew her relationship as a mass. We know that she's an insecure massive cries about her eggs lot my what else do you need to know? Okay we saw her mother all the time I mean yeah. So Andy is lie well, she feels like you haven't been transparent Tinsley timidly says what's portrayed as her life. So why did no one oh? Sorry, Tinsley. And he's just GonNa talk for Tinsley tens. No. I. Am transparent and what is operatives? ooh, so then. And so. Why didn't anyone come to? Jen's lead defense then isn't that kind of mean letting your hang out there and everything. Like well, you know to rent it was just feeling very house flooded and broken ribs and she felt very taken advantage of Andy and you know listen tensely has played to victim with me darling she's played the victim with me she was the victim of. Trapped in your attic with Brown eyes. Okay. Yes. Like two cars running over a person does not make it. The person's fault the got run over. Okay they. That person maybe should look both ways you better look both ways before you cross the heart. So, then Ramona's like what I love to love to bring that to this day when she gets on a roll like an actual role Redmond foot on a roll of bread and when she gets angry like no stopping or it's like a new sin Sanussi new like John Sununu, she's like John Sununu. He's Hey, it's a new sign. No He's behind my house. My House. I know him. He's like he's very night noon nuke snoopy. The Dwarf Knew How do you say? No, he's been to my house news day through three suit. She's like an Assu cod driving down the street. That's exactly what she gets. An average just like soon army. Yeah. So new me. Okay. It's worse than Avalos. Swertz of laws and during the second Asian, he's about flooding my ribs intense like no here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Up. Take Where have you been this whole time this rate Tinsley we need. Okay. I felt bad for Luang because she can't stand when Tennessee screeches Oh this. is so much screeching. while. She was living in a whole cow month and gacy you were mean to her because she was living in a hotel. Yes. They lie apologized for me. No, you didn't. Apologize. Where I was going through a Tobu time I broke my rib on a flooded house and then to make rib actually came back and I think you better not knock me McDonald's is because. You're going to put up two guests not authentic. That's lying. Batons is live with Mick McGrady's back broken. Okay. I kissed her sorry. You had to have a baby and curic. By my ribs and I, hope you in from honestly what she's trying to say ten success. Let me speak okay I'm not even gonNA be Reggie girl. Let me. Listen a Turkey basis of wonderful things. Go through Thanksgiving and you know you don't want to drive Turkey, and if the word for techniques that you'd have Turkey Turkey based is really a great thing teams. I don't know why you're getting mad at me for comparing. Of, wonderful take. Over Talk. Scream at each other like in Split screen, and during the is still going. Broken. My Broken. Ribbon fled house all over and over again and then Ramona's like well these she apologized sick. Oh, shut up the great apologize amount a shot up. He's back. Okay. Jesus. Enough lands like. I was truly happy for you in the end Hensley. So. I guess what I'm trying to say as. You're welcome and I will take those Rita's coupon cabin coupons. Thank you very much. Yes I will. I have peace soon set capped P., and he's like, okay well, what was your reaction watching this lay back? Yeah. I mean you weren't since he's Bachelorette. And Lee as like I was males so I was trying to forge a relationship with her and also. which we that really hard saw like wt fuck you know come on guys. Yeah and I was like I wanted to do a lunch with you guys. But tends Tinsley didn't WanNa do it and that's fine. But like Tinsley may have done it just how like Michael should have gone out with me and he didn't. So then I you know like make fun of him on the Internet, and made them seem like a crazy person that's kind. Of what he did for herself like basically tends the Michael. terific. The same person you know what? I'm saying like seriously fine but you know what comes off. So strongly, she's as big bully, but you know what? She's just a coward because you could never even to a one on one with me during that, you had to enlist your cronies to stand up for you. GonNa I. Am Not a crowning. Not You but still the USA. It's like now you've got Tinsley going and she's just not going to stop she is she's great. Sue really gathers up. He's like you know render you and I used to be able to have our own one on one conversations off camera. But you turned me the moment you find out that John took that money rooms guy you turned on me and. You know, she doesn't really have any good response for that. Winter Indus Kat because he just starts like shaking her earrings and just like looking off in the distance like that time where they were getting on her about being coke head do you remember that oh? Yeah. So Funny Oh my God. Glen like. Everyone knows you do drugs and she's just like saying her head. Just, drop it relates. Let's make impact. So then. So Andy question that's really good that goes. It's like basically what is think? What does to think of Ramona, saying that Scott is able to give two things to Tinsley the way the way Richard used to be able to give things to render and is different jealous like he knew I wouldn't want kind of relationship that I already had and still want again because like where you have to give up your independence and be totally dependent, I don't want that. Okay. 'cause the key is to not really have any independent in the first place him saying. De Sticky. Own. Relationship you know what? You can never be wrong, and that's what's GonNa be your Achilles detriments with of course it is one hundred percent. Yeah. I said during those just looking off in the distance going. Okay. So you know she's got yeah and then she starts again with her. We see a clip of Ramona in the turbine ranked because Andy says, why were you so mad on the Alleanza though I mean that was gravy. than. We see the clip of. Yeah where again all the tombs all Leah. was trying to say was yeah Tim's Lebron Group but I really can't do you guys like that's SORTA. What she was trying to say. Because watching authentic change didn't bring liaison Citigroup. Pay, find, his fee. We all know that betsy would be getting. You know what? I'm saying that's Bethany and by the way to run to and Bethany were did go out to dinner last night. So they still have a relationship not that has any bearing on anything but I thought as long as we're talking about Kyle Vander pumping in the same restaurant. Let's get it all out there and it was funny because a picture they showed in the press it's the bathroom like on her phone. mcmil she looks. Her and this Diriye with Martini bigger than her head just like you know her mouth up and talking that sounds about right again knew exactly what the scene was and I said birthday was one he'd probably end yeah. Yeah. Whatever okay. Whatever like this is a crisis on Guan. Shoes here comes one right. So Bethany. Andy's like that and he gave us thirty names at least name was also on the gassing director of list. So what does it matter if she was on Alexa? Who Cares who cares? At. Dubbing nothing if netting. Implying Tinsley brought it to the group that she's not answer some years picking your teeth so that I think that Andy. I didn't like that. So just like jumps them on whatever arguments she wants to, and like it doesn't matter that she's a contradicted yourself like twelve million times in this entire munitions just like. Yeah I agree. No Oh, that's terrible. I would never do that. Oh, I would totally do that game. Just, like a color commentator. Ambi but they did actually become friends before we started feeling does that not out and during this again because of the show she's so full of it. We know why to renders mad. So whatever A Lewinsky body thinks windows mad river because of the money because of that. Okay. The money thing because the money. Yeah. So they're trying to be like, why? Why are you so mad about tensely when we Ernie now you know so. We generally Leeann I we generally liked each other. We made a real friendship. That's all she's say I'm so happy to of Mideast group and he has like, but I wanted to give it on my hands Lee you know and and and by the way. Not even met Bethany after all this stuff and everything. So and then that's when Ramona by the way is like, no, what Bethany is independece year every single deck that's what it is that the prompt is in your in ear which. I didn't think about, but I would especially given that we saw this picture from just last night. I I wouldn't say that's not necessarily untrue rathmell always keeping tabs on everything. Back up again. Oh well, she's on what happens live next week. Thank got. A bug what are you going to do about it? All right here. With me I'm almost. anti-landmine law. The House. Like I'm done. I'm done. Okay. So Ramona's like you know what she what and then Ramona starts here like. Jesus Christ thing where she just like swings her arms out. As I said. It's so fun. She does that the rest of the reunion anytime she yells out something like look guy she threats parent I mean she talked about going to prison you breaking hitting me. And we see a crip of Tinsley when he was like constantly talking about how she went to prison. And how was not transparent Modesto alchoholic babies be the poop in front of the camera? Mona. Yeah You know what we listen. We're already doubt a person can bethany with, and then she leaves emerge the pay almost a micrometer. You're literally not even making any sense right now I think that Arinda ultimately is her and she feels there's something she is not getting from Kinsley that she wants like emotionally and she's not getting it and she feels very rejected and burned by Arco this is crazy behavior like an all excuses barely make sense. She sounds like someone who was like in love who was betrayed cheated on I'm not saying she wasn't love camping. She's that kind of thing where someone is like. Listen I'm a lot of Love Island and I've been watching a lot of blood. Relationship. Relationships on a crazy place I just know I know what it sounds like when someone is needing more emotional fulfilment than what than what they are receiving. Well, I, look at it. The Arinda just mad because he has this rich boyfriend and her and. Indus Boyfriend got copying fucking slime bag. Again, trying to run game as he calls it and Tinsley should have come to her and said, Hey, you know John Calls and wants money from Scott or something, and instead during the probably feels like Tinsley trying to make her look stupid by like bringing it probably around the girls or whatever. It's like all of these things. Yeah and also she's in love with her. No. She is in love with them. Just saying that emotion that that feeling of light you know and you can happen with friends. You know where you're just like I thought we were best friends and I'm feeling rejected by your right now. So Andy is like by the way we should mention that Bethany did leave the day before aren't shooting you know and He's like so if you're mad about somebody being bad employee, why wouldn't you get mad at Bethany? She totally screwed the so over you know exactly. Nanyang lean and. That's Oh, an Ami Cycle. You Know Oh, she says I think they should be honored paid to those who stayed and slugged it Alli Andi know with those. Yes people are not paid to just take your abuse that makes me crazy when they say that it's like Lisa wren on the Beverly Hills like, yeah. If you like it like, no, the job is not to just sit there and get beaten up by somebody. That's not what it is crazy that they keep describing it like that like I'm abusing you see have to sit here and fucking take it or you're the one in the wrong. Yeah. I think also like durant has a right to be annoyed at Tinsley for sure for leaving the show. 'cause you know like maybe on a certain level, just thinking Bethany just leads it last-second. Now God do this show and you know people love Bethany and now Tinley is GonNa leave like this could imperil our show really So I understand why she could be like annoyed by that. But the way she just lost her mind that party with. So like above and beyond the like the crime that was committed like that punishment did not fit the crime and that's what like I think no one is able to understand or or to get a good. Explanation for us to wash that way because she was she was I mean she had. That turbine was the only thing keeping her head on her neck at that point otherwise, it would have just popped off and just float on. The clip her just walking past the cameras and yelling at the cameras like Geez she's a nightmare. So emmys like well be clear. She spoke with me and Bravo, and we mutually agreed that you're fixing the blood in your basement was plenty drama for the them people lot. Yeah. It's kind of his way of saying like you're not a producer of this show. We're the producers we looked at it and we decided it was okay and we gave her our blessing. So stopped trying to produce our own damn. Show you know. That's good to know because what I've learned is you don't have to leave. You don't have to you have to wait till the end to leave and you can hike staff. Do Do Do you know who's lunch I eat my office fridge. Wrong with and you know what I P okay. I can't I can't. You gotta listen you just all these cameras here getting talk about okay. I'm going to urinate I'm GonNa go pee okay. Intensely says I think the perfect thing she's like you know of Toronto just keeps talking even she can think it's real. Which? That's what's. So then is like. Well she didn't fall asleep this time and so ramone walk off the set, and he's like your mask and your mask Whoa Oh my God. My masks someone give me my mask. Tissue. The tissue. Prevents Corona Virus Okay just do that for me. So when we come back and he's like, okay, are we ready Ramona's like you know what? I didn't turn off my phone but get now look like my classic Ramona move account going to swipe my phone. Guy. She's like so proud of herself. Taking all these years to learn how to turn off her phone. Anyway. So now we have a segment of the housewives on vacation being silly and fun, which was pretty fun to watch actually. So we see all that and then it ends with Tinsley. Talking about how she me that with her sister as jokes like. So how does one make out with your sister as a joke and she's like you know twenty years ago when I was kind of like, you know the girl New York, I was just like Oh we gotta do about how we kissed know and then my was like any kiss I'm like this. To like do it on my sister in those two seconds longer than it was like really fun and. and. Who put the vibrator in chicken and he's like Oh, that was Leah and I remember because it was a big plate of chicken there and I was trying to stand the vibrator up any and then if you know what actually it was me I guess. I. Guess It was me. So, then was that a vibrator llewellyn's luggage. Swear to God, it was a juice mixer. It was a juice mixer and the funny story is actually had a vibrator and there, but it didn't go off because get this. About or it's Unclear believer girls, the battery needed new other vibrator needed new batteries and then. I put those new batteries in it. You know what I did. I looked without vibrator and I said Bieber. Do the. Raiders we'll pack and then we get over to the basement segment where Andy's like what was disrespectful about sleeping in a basement the smell bike be very dark nad no windows I don't understand and the win goes on her like she still hasn't learned one thing she's like well, I mean she said I was going to have to stop Bula Room and then I ended up in the. What Was the concern. An quote me into print courtney and I'm so worried they were GONNA sleep. A Lot. I'd. Luanne like yeah. Well, I was just the lowest on the totem pole of race I can use because I am part native American. Thank you. Everybody was so worried about that. Thank you now did. I mention that there was a spider down there. It was pretty horrific. Just me a cabaret star just under the web of a spider is almost like I was kissed by a spider and that spider was woman I received the kiss of spiderwoman. Feels vaguely musical. Chita Rivera. Just like comes down on the Ro-. Spoil. Hey, you're just like me Cheetah. Well it reminds me of when I decided to reenact Spiderman turn out the dark in my living room. I. Use Wells Old Skateboard and said look at me. I'm man careened into a lamp and. Broke A. Picture frame and the point of the story is this. I will never be in a basement again ever. Well rob see you on getting back on that camel. Oh, well I just you know Andy I believe in running towards your fear until you conquer that fear and the cameras one example. I was on the street the other day, and there was a cop there and I punched him because you know after my whole ordeal is very afraid of punching cops punched him right in the face felt great and the everything's going. Great. Thanks for asking I said, you've just got kissed by Spiderwoman gift came from my fisted pay and Ramona you got a lot of heat for calling the staff Mexico servants knew what you know what it should have been such a great steph. Okay. And I own a right because guess on an antiquated and I'm old and I don't know the proper words for instance, like when I called myself antiquated I don't even know the proper word that I'm old fashioned. She called herself antiquated as if she were like an old model. Like. Updated you know like let. Off Mona Ios six. K Our IOS Fourteen K antiquated well. So this season and finished probation was ready to raise a glass look into you marry appeal it on her own glass terms of rarely glasses inbr- obeys in swimming bulls gambles. Led what before we get into the Luan segment we had to say goodbye Tinsley and so it was like all right Tinsley well, good luck with your relationship with Scott in that crazy city over there Chicago and so they don't compete eat now can we both? Like Yeah Yeah yes. They all get up and they're all like Russia the waiver, your mouth, your house you got to wear your mouth like this is how corona virus spreads the housewives. Yeah. Ramona's freaking patient zero. How many places did Ramona take it to anyway I know in this reunion alone? Yeah. So Mousa Lou segment and we see her season and and he's like you know it's interesting to think about last year Liu and because the women really have it with you. Every flashback of them, just like yelling Lou and knew what? She's become a lot more approachable and she's more real more down to earth I think that she was spent a lot of time in that roundhouse a first getting dizzy and crazy. But now that she's selling it, she's a lot more grounded center. Okay. I. Mean Andy I mean just being told that if you have a drink, you go to jail. Imagine living without for almost two years. Imagine me or calibrates star and everyone just wants to do one champagne does after another to celebrate me and my rise like a Phoenix as a cabaret sensation and you can't even have a of that very champagne they're throwing and your. Pumpkin head face, can you believe that Andy? Can you believe that? I'm really glad to see that you. Were back on tracking. Suffer that one little. Dim and we see the clip of Lou Lou and getting trying to leave to rainbows endure into screaming at her spitting into the camera and it's like well, actually, there were a couple of hiccups. There was the BERKSHIRES. There was our trip to Mexico again what I was. Really he was treating poor innocent seventy even well, I would never treat Sonia badly I think he should be very, very gentlest. Slippers, you pitch it never use realm staten a flip it. You. got. That I just want to clarify all those hiccups did come from Dorando because she was wasted all season long unlike me. And you can write that in hiccups from Dorando put that into the show put that into the show be ratio God. Holy you're, GONNA marry her kill Gobs babs and gas oops. Oh well, thank you for the question. Then I think that I am going to marry gas I'm going to fuck a hickup and I'm going to kill Burp why I have no idea running this down. This is good content. Leah Luanne confirm or deny her diva expectations and she's like I'm all sometimes I guess like it's all about her and though as well. You when you have six brothers or sisters, you know you have to say me me me on. Sorry for biggest stars like no no I just mean it i. mean it was an endearing endearing way in the loans like Oh. Thank you. I mean. I've been that is a question about her drinking etcetera and like going back to drinking and. Checking in on myself and reevaluating my relationship with alcohol and realizing that I deserve this God damn it I was incarcerated and I was in prison, and then the next questions I just in from great. BARRINGTON wants to says, Hey, you should probably stop saying that you've been incarcerated and been to prison because you were and you were never on parole you were just on probation and you went to jail for your rights. You're right I words do matter and I never went to prison even though I. Wasn't shackles and had a baloney sandwich thrown in my face by the West Palm Beach Police or should I say dictator departments? So yes, I never went to prison but I understand the pain the pain of being in there for life even though I was there for about six hours total anyway. Yeah that's why worked for the Fortune Society and he because he no people in prison have to go there to actually work. You know there's a whole license plate industry that's being taken on by. It's just not fair. You know they're making money off of people's misfortune, which now that I think about it sounds like Bravo but. It's less fun for them. Let's just say that. Do you know that there's one prison where they lock you into boots and you can't even walk anywhere if they turn on the magnetic floors and then if you find someone who swapped your face, you find them in you escape together. Do you know how hard that is? It's like a on are you talking about face off? Perhaps I am perhaps I am. Well. I'm sorry but you know I'm just not familiar with these terms yet. No needs to make fun of my very large face Andy. So then we get into the silly payment fight and he's like Celje, you said Luanne only ate half your appear after your hair and makeup vive European. Infancy it's true and she doesn't pay me at all. Well, that's not true because you said that she pays for how much money do you think you make by showing up in a cabaret for fifty five minutes? Okay. Two hundred and fifty bucks is pretty good. It is listen I paid her with a box of crispy creams some tax and I don't know what more she would want she should be so honored to be on my stage. Okay. Listen when I when I started, my show was a very humble thing. We had nothing but me and piano player Anna Director and a musical director of sound guy and I guess the publicity team whole band really if you think about it and what licensing department and oh Vanity Fair came I mean it was just so small and humble we couldn't afford to pay anyone and suddenly it's like playing a harp like Mike. Instead of the little violence, he's playing a harp and Lou Well I mean listen I asked her to come to have fun I go to her party I don't get paid and leans like it was a charity. Made. Like well, she can always come when she wants the fans of her. You didn't pay me anything two hundred and forty dollars I mean that's not even payment literally payment. Yeah that that is it's like. Well, you're GONNA well, the fans love or you're GonNa give her a larger piece of the pie that was exactly the plan. We have a very large wedge of Pie to feed her, and I think she's just GonNa love it. It's Ben's family recipe. So, then we go into. Her Father Pat her talking to the book writer Lady Vermont Ghostwriter Lady, and now the ghost you can see and talking about a dad and stuff and she's like well Andy. You know. I. Don't know if I should talk about my father right now. Tremendous like, yeah you have to read the book detective. Looking. Man, it's like. Well, yes. You know it will be in my book, but my father had issues with or Oklaho- and. I didn't know I didn't have a very glamorous childhood I. Mean I just Okay Landy was terrible Cole. Yet, more class at one pinkie than he did most people have in their whole body and that goes for Ramona. It's specifically goes for Ramona because she has no glass whatsoever she's a vile monster I'm there I've said it but it was so kind what you just said about me I am doing much better. Thank you Ramona anyway what we're talking about. My show. Yeah. So she talks about her dad and the last few years of his life how she took him all over the world with her and she's really here to show you that no matter how though you go you can turn your life around Andy for example, me after getting out of prison jail is that right? Did I say that right? After being released from the chain gang. Was for you Christiane for you after being released from the chain gang and clogged my way back into society, which was very hard for me and ex felon You know I got into cabaret and here I am here and so Ramona's like you know what I've seen with volve in such a positive way. My when I met you, you were just like this awful terrible person who hid behind the counter sems like no one wanted to hang out with you. You're one of the most worst people I've ever met like no one. Liked you you horrific you were awful monster slash east. You're just terrible and thank God in the last three months he started become somewhat likable carry. Yeah does the icee Ambi dose to you could though he's like a kid news no jokes. What? Happened to you. But thank God, you smell leth- terrible guy in the wound like. Thank you. So the second time, the reunion that she's like. Oh. So these bitches conflict. Thank you. Oh Yeah. Thanks. We also got to see a flashback of classic. And Ramona is there on that boat and? Louis B account as. It goes, but you went to no titles from US Kate let's face it. You being rude you being rude. You're not following your own rules countess you not be a countess of. Class SEWRI Sewri your classes tie. The Sun will rise the bird'll thing and woman in cabaret, and the ladies will hit on all the time. So they so the horny segment where lady like making out with every guy they they come into this and then we see a clip of William who's like the hot young guy who's got that like weird squint talks to people to be sexy and WHO's probably had more sex with them and Constantine realis- so. Clip out that yeah they ask about William and chick who? Knows Liam is just. Bill Yeah I call him Bill Carrey. You know why? Because that's what I have to pay him with a right. So yeah no which France were plutonic friends were platonic friends and I've never ever ever tried to flash him. Okay and seducing my boudoir ever ever. Yeah. Bills. Great. He's got the biggest willie ever huge Jambi be. Doing this with her arm. wishing. Get friends right if you were still menstruating. Pregnant. Yeah you you gas shop because I'm actually really good friends with bill. Okay. MIC to rent a you're GONNA take up for this random fame whore dude who just wants to be on camera. Really this is the guy who are going to take up for bill. Also, why did we not really talk too much about derivatives friend John Jay Ho. Turned her indicate six who does that? Yeah that was a that was. Mark or something? Yeah. I thought that was weird. Also, why did we not talk about Rahm guy who just kept lurching around in the background and party like, Hey, also your good time. So. Ambi asked derain bags like do you even have desire anymore during the that like inches like actually envy time move. And he's like. Are you seeing. Can I say, can I say? She's like so basically defenders like she's like. I always t but she doesn't WanNa talk about it yet, which is funny. Funny that Arinda wants a little bit of privacy to like nurture this relationship and like no one's yelling at her about it and how it's like, okay the like why? That's like she's she's. Requesting a certain sort of respect from the other women I. Guess. Funny. Alvarez anything about it. Let it go So then let's see. Oh then Lia talks about like liking the bartender, but you know whatever he'd lives out of town so. And then not going to sleep with them because she wants more than a one night stand right now. Yeah and then she's talking about and she was talking about the one night stand because the Mexico guys she's like the reason why the Mexico didn't got the wings is because I'm just like not really nothing against wanted. monoplace wanted him one night stands and Lou and goes well, actually you know it's funny because those two Canadians that we met on the beach with those awful shorts well, I really I pick those guys up for Lia not for me I saw those men and I said you too attractive man who are probably really smitten with a cabaret star especially, the one in your presence I. Don't want you. I am not horning for you. I want to give you guys. To Leah that's all I want on just A. altruistic cabaret icon giving men away to the to the more needy. That's what I am doing. So, then we go to the Ramona, hates Lee clip like why is Ramona so mean to Leah why just don't get it and? During this saying the cab, he'll what you've got the whim clings to she can have. Yeah and Andy says when he says the clip, his refers to Ramona as Ra Mommy. Mommy. LEARY for Mommy. So. So we got through all this clip and Andy's Leea- Leeann. Ramona. Wild ride now. With striking, you you you've ever. Ramona and a win awry. Can you explain? She's like. Well, you know Andy Suspect. Leah, I just don't get okay. I and a little walk trolled Kay I'm just not. So wildly abby to what my breaking point was when I had my party. Okay and we had this conversation I said, you know you know I know you look to have fun I know like a little slut K- but like you know I want to act like avery okay and like when you go wild you, let's go crazy and every she doesn't do that she works. In, finance she's smart. She's basically a sophisticated young woman who any men would be. So honored to have pontiac more like avery okay and I understand being slutty crazy monster makes you happy and I said that's fine. Just don't do it here I'm having a sophisticated vent and let me had a long pant on the maybe I. Don't know maybe have lost I. Don't know like some tons love them down too long pent K. and swore you just adult long pants guy. All, my guy because my dress came up, I mean, why don't you just say asa way I mean you don't have to scream at the camera cameraman. She's like you don't scream cameras down cameras down enough. Obviously wanted attention at the party where I wanted attention. Okay. Yeah. You're what you obviously wanted attention and there was an entire Barthet Ramona's living. Attention you overreacted Ramona just saying you overreacted. What did he get split saying I mean he was like I was dancing. Okay. You'll what. Dancing properly and during this like, but we were all doing that but she started. Leotard and it was only women. You know what I specifically said I only want the Fox Trot and Ramona's liberal. Suaram Sword Right. Like. Did you overreact? Yes but no. Holder the different standard I mean Sony can say she has a fat pussy but then league say anything Sonja what harping okay. After please contain yourself. Romana. A weird of infatuation with me and my sexuality like I say pianist or like friends with benefits I mean that front standard you know what listen maybe it's 'cause antiquated and out of date but you know what our point Sonia to be funny like Sealed Ball Lucille Ball is very funny contemporary actress and I find your sexual things to build more class story. That's me. I'm more sealed wall fan Ko West she's like, Lucille Ball and you like apple APP disgusting slut everybody knew it. You want to put the chocolate or mount in the first place I she was the one did. And he's just jealous execute what field mother, Andy Okay Oh God someone gets the milk gets granola over. Oh God I knew the moment she said Kudos granola wouldn't be much far behind. Members they were so good. They make them. I would love some Kudos for out there sent me a bar. Those by the box when I was a kid am. Love those non stop every time of your does I think of that green box out of chuck once the green box, you know sometimes the blue box, but I was always the green box for me. You'll up to my pictures to all into Tobago. Feel like as Mother Okay Lia's mother who really enjoys old reruns of Love Lucy Okay you know show I don't watch I love. League because no one I don't know what because you know what she cheat yourself she herself in that way. Okay. She just cheapens such cheapens herself so much and his like Aurora let let her finish but she's cheap. Okay. Okay. Guess What I love Lucy and Desi is a wonderful man Ramona letter finish I love Lucy Ramona. Finish. So, Ramona's like I mean, and then there's my daughter's like Oh my God they're twenty four I had kids at twenty four secure. What might kids don't talk like that came dotted talk like that. Slab you. There's a clip of Ramona did we see this in the nose seen footage? So's unseen footage of Ramona out to drinks with Leeann intensely but also avery friends and Leah's sitting there with these girls and kills minder am is to like get like a billionaire that has a nine inch never mind don't you have to stop with my you see every they're like she's like nodding like me to. and. My, you know what Mike you don't talk like that. You Chalk. And she's like, yeah. But then you started jerking off a wine glass like in front of your daughter. The clip of Ramona teaching them how to flirt and see is. Like full lading lab. Chris the Glass, while I'm right here, did you happen to see a leases or least should be on this region I don't know why she's not on it but did you see Elisa's instagram story from a few weeks ago when she was giving her her her tips for flirting with guys she was like, hi, this is a lease and let me tell you how you can win over a guy. First thing that you do is you take glass and you start taking the you but you're strong in the mouth and you move it up and down and you just swirl you just swirl with your fingers and even though you to touching them but the swelling of the fingers makes them think that. You get them aroused and that's what you do. Is that what she did really she does something like. This so Ramona's thing no, her thing was her thing was like It was it was sort of like. Move something in a circle like move your finger in a circle or like swirl. Or something that's what it was. That's what it was. You said. Adam what you do. It's you put your finger around the Brim and you just start circling it and just do it over and over again and he won't even realize it help be turned on and I was like laughing then I was like you know. But at least it's sort of like a professional ho in the best way. So she probably is like one hundred percent right and like I would love for our single ladies and gentlemen to try out the technique next time they go on a date pandemic ends and tell us how it goes. But then you do that and then you just deafen the man because he just here's one. which is also the sound year. When you look at it, Lisa's Instagram 'cause all the pictures of her are just like blank face like. I've been watching the video of that but I saw united press play or whatever. But I saw this is this was the previous picture. All these speakers they're amazing. There's head face because you know you can check you to face state staring into the camera. Shots before getting her crowns fixed or what? That's her favorite look like you'll have a selfie up and like. Felt cute. Might might delete never and it's just like her in a car like. She loves that shop but you know what? She has a hot ass husband like real hot and I don't know I. Think Lisa's the Unsung hero of the season I want her back well, time will tell. Coming back to the reunion. So, then we go into the Newport section where the a loss that you know like how to fit and the sister Camp Sets Guy, and so now we're fighting about that and least like what you said my sister come, and then you said she couldn't, and so I think okay. So what so who cares and then I said sorry and then the next day after apologizing apologizing apologizing and Ramona goes you know what I don't like Leo when she clings all. Did. You ever see Lucille ball wasted like that thinks. So I don't think so Kyi so and he's like well Ramona. You brought up the fact that she's like bipolar and everything, and so you know totally had written this article in two thousand sixteen and and she's like, yeah, I wrote this article like someone had to be doing some googling it's. My friend one of my friends she was so disgusted by lease behavior. Okay and she was like I don't understand how this girl. Behaviors Google and came right up and that friend her name was Pomona was my assistant. Pomona, that's who looked it up. Okay. And it's like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Her France you just like a live off rich man and have to go to work. So they have the time to Gilgal. y'All day and Ramona's like no the do work to very successful in real estate. COPA. Laurie Cooper Lauren Cooper editor. Laura. Thank listen he and honey that girls bipolar. Okay. I'm not really sure what that is but I think it's when Santa Claus wants to live on the South Pole. But then he has a place in the North Wall for work. Yeah. It's. It's. It's actually it's a very it's a very luck. It's a Mitzvah to be able to go between both pulse. Okay. So and Helps Sam. Laurie Kupa Okay in France. In France his wonderful wonderful. Okay So Leila's like so Ramone, you know what I have friends that I pull. Okay. WHO's in the hospital right now because she's bipolar okay. She tried to buy a poll and at impaled her, and now she's in the hospital. I have friends so as well. Then you should know that like what I was being drunk and I was not being bipolar at that moment and she said, well, what if you're polar you should you're on medication when you're McKay should drink K. Dr Ramona classes and session Swabi I wasn't on medication in Sunday's goes everyone's on medication and Ramona you're not a doctor What I didn't do it maliciously. Is like Oh. Yes you because you know what you know it's going to end up on TV my kids got to see and she starts screaming at Ramon, and now she has to talk to a kid about hospitalization and bipolar disorder and. All because Ramona brought it up on TV go skew what twelve percent of Americans around depression medication. Okay. Once help America. Help. Own it and help America okay. Owner and help America help America I was like. That kind of spin. Like crazy aspin in that world that Ramona lives in, which is why we always have to have her on our TV I don't care because she is so crazy i. also liked that when Leah was was saying like I'm not like like I'm not on medication Raimondo's how was I supposed to know that? You're blaming her for not telling you that she's not on medication is supposed to now. America help America be sealed ball and help America Jat wet seal always doing there was like a trae young she had to catch all the bipolar medication pills put him under mount. Otherwise America would've overdosed chocolate medication. She had to. Remember that time when sealed ball. So considerate to go and stop all leftover bipolar medicine and she was there and she was stomping and stomping and stomping, and she made bipolar juice out of it with Ethel kyw great service to America for Apple fucked everybody in the factory slut. Okay she's like over there slot. So. Andy's like Ramona. Are you really doubling down on this? She's like, yes, of course, and that could always be asked at any time on any season. So I regret that and bring it up to personally. Okay. Because as her mother I should've confronted a tour alone. Okay. But I made a public apology swore sorry I've made a public apology. and Leah's God well yeah, I. Mean at least I would have known what you are mad about. He's like well, look you know what? Leah on the other hand if this was an article already then why are you mad that she brought it up and she's like because this is a new medium and I haven't been on here before and it's my story it's my thing to tell. Yeah, which is valid. That is valid the why didn't you bring up six months ago and Arinda? Ramona says Ramona asks why didn't you bring it up six months ago and Arinda says with maybe she just didn't want to. Oh. Okay. Oh, I, guess I. Guess we're cool with that. Now I guess we're cool. If someone doesn't want to bring it up, they don't have to Thanksgiving I was a little confused by all of your actions all season but now I understand and Ramona's like sub Barbara with everything else cag-, China even talks. He's got talking to China guy and the. Ad Says China Ramona you really gotTa look at that. Interim is lacking love this girl struggling through probation you know and she mentioned. He's trying to. Ramona's sang speaking on decide. Inside Yeah because because because Leo's like you know Ramona's things to hurt people and that's renders like, yeah you just struggled probation you said she's still drinking this. Poor new in Paula and and you try to ruin Luanne I'm like can we roll the footage of how you also were just like a wretched monster to do an who admittedly was a monster in her own way that season but don't act like Oh poor poor and you were terrible to let's roll that beautiful being footage while Bobby Deputy. Be. Yeah. You. Know. About. Commercial. Beautiful Bean footage wall lobby labor lay well blah. HDTV. So I'm having to sit through the commercials because I'm watching it on demand and that fucking being commercial comes on. Nazi. Footage, I think. I've heard that phrase I think I've seen the commercial. San. Landau this whatever this weird ragtime as. So. But? Yes. I'll be corporate either being ragtime into the show. That in their role up. Being. Footage. Lewellen Piper. I. Edited out. Viva La being. So then Ramona's like you what. At least I, don't like all the people. You know what? There's another blanket statement with no facts just like you still is as listened renewal in our last. Facelift Ramona. Paste lived. So Andy who has clearly been trying to stay away from asking people about what like at like their face literally he's like to tamper down he's like okay. All right. All right. It's been brought up twice I have to ask now did you get a faceless Ramona the worst lower in the world has? No. It. Does a slow blink and like she liked the pushes her head into her neck like she sits on her chair like like she's in her chairs if she's watching like a scary movie. Just beyond sheets, people care with. You know what just just be honest Ramona's like you just be honest. Janis you gotta face you get laid by Gupta man every. This was this moment was so savage between the two of them. It's like John Drink all the time just beyond this lead by random men every night just be honest to drink oak derby with your sixty friend leave my friends alone they can't stand you Betcha. and. Sunny. At the same time, go fifty friends fifty fifty don't ever that bonus ten. Okay. And during this, I can't stand. You know that none of those friends can't even stand to Ramona and just. Blow Shit you think your wretched. They'RE GONNA GO GET COCKTAIL LITTER THAN Good. Times. Yeah. Yeah. We got some good stuff I mean it's like it is like the most savage show on TV. It's like a million savage. This show I think it's like it's like it's also like the golden girls, right? Like the golden girls were so savage to each other, right? Jeeze. Run US like help wet the over mind's Me Myself K. she beats her drummer kate. Thank you what I beat my. Drum I'd be all my servants. Antiquated mice that I call them drummers now. She's self-made. I'm self made she has no ex husband who supporter I have no ex husband who supported her she has no husband or guy whoever supported her I have no rich boyfriend. She has a daughter who's like a best friend. I have a daughter who's like a best friend she looks ageless look ageless. We're like basic the same person except I'm wiser. Okay and did you catch she goes way she doesn't have a rich boyfriend you supported or it's a bridge husband who died who supported her I was like all. I did not hear the rich rich husband who died. That is low G.. After ended, it doesn't even there. So nasty to each other it doesn't even really register. Dislike all right the phillies. And then lists like. Just like I felt like maternal ness from you and then like got taken away and like really really triggered something I'll let me guess did it trigger oats and brand and honey and sugar also known as Granola Ramona's to kill comment coming and she's like her arms starts walking. And he's like, no. You cannot. You cannot. Do this weird album for the is like all right. This is bullshit but for the story and during the goes, Oh, here they come in and he's like the health guys are coming guys Nice, job. Oh God it's so funny. It's so funny. Also I love. We didn't mention it. I loved that Sony told us that the the young hipster from the fashion show still calls her. She's like, Oh yeah. Lou and tried to pull me off the young and I was like I love that I. Love That I love that guy that he is. Emily, is like Oh yeah. She's made out with like lots of those guys. 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GSW troubles, AB to Raiders, Lakers saga continues

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GSW troubles, AB to Raiders, Lakers saga continues

"A welcome differs things. I it is Monday. I am general. He is the hall of fame. Chris Carter that is Nick rights. We have a big Monday's show for you today. Talking Lakers is LeBron throw us teammates under the bus because there's an executive who certainly thinks he is an anonymous non of on the narrow down by the end of the show. Figuring out who it is lime. Money's on genius teams out west the warriors continued to slide, but we have to start with what happens when Brown becomes black and silver. Antonio Brown is now in Oakland raider, it was this weekend's big NFL news the Steeler, sending their very disgruntled star wide receiver out west to the raiders in return. They received a third and a fifth round pick and they're hoping much quieter calmer locker room Brown, certainly got his money. The raiders gave him. Contract. Thirty million guaranteed and up to fifty four million dollars. All right. Chris Carter, I start with you turns out there were a few teams interested in Brown. But Oakland made the final deal. What was your reaction to all of this will Oakland the tremendous winner? And just imagine if this had been Jon Gruden in his first year just imagine what the after coming out of the TV booth tremendous expectations ten year guarantee contract reportedly. But we went through a year, but we saw him give up. Good young players and trade them Khalil Mack. Trading him before the before the season to the bears Amari Cooper during the season. Trading him to the Dallas Cowboys. And now you're going to go out. And I like the fact that might make was involved in this. And I believe that Mike may out we'll be able to help their front office because for a third round pick and the fifth round pick. I didn't think it was going to get a number one. Because I knew there was too much baggage out there, and this other things out there about AB that other teams aren't going to want. I knew from the beginning. He wanted to new contract. So that also hurts his ability to build to get a number fetch at number one pick because if you give them more compensation and draft they give you less cash if you give them less compensation draft picks, then the team is more apt to give you more money and this worked out for the for the Oakland Raiders tremendous trade for them. Get an elite player playing in the prime of. His career with an offense and offense of minded coach that was under a great deal of criticism of if as if he had forgotten football when he had gone to the TV Buso, the raiders have to be very very happy about this trait. Pittsburgh Steelers, they lose up and down the board front office. They lose the ownership. They lose and the coaching staff loses in one day. They're gonna fire Mike Tomlin. And it's going to be this this trait right here. And what happened in this year with AB? It will continually be brought up and discuss because Mike Tomlin lost control of the Pittsburgh Steelers now because he's gone Willie build a gain control. But it's fairly obvious that he did lose control of the Pittsburgh on the raiders side of things. See when you say what if this was a year ago? What if this was John gruden's initial move last year before the season, they traded a third and a fifth four Martavis Bryant and AJ McCarron. They said they got the name wrong. They sent the. Martavis Bryant they were with. Think about that Martavis Bryant and AJ McCarron same compensation. Now got you Antonio Brown. This is there is no no matter how critical of Gruden in the raiders you've been and we've been very critical on this show. This is of course, a win. They get arguably the best receiver in football. They get him to a place. He wanted to go to which matters only because of his attitude. We know he's going to work hard. No matter what. But how much of a quote distraction unquote, will he be and for the raiders there is an element of the Dak Prescott Amari Cooper trade to this in my eyes. Which is if they don't get Cuyler. And if they don't get Haskins in this year's draft. They will be going with their car and Gruden will need to determine if he wants to continue forward with their car after this year, if they don't use one of those first round picks on a quarterback keep in mind in twenty twenty. They still have an extra first round pick in that year's draft because the Khalil Mack trade. So the raiders. Could potentially be in the quarterback business year from now. But now they'll have fair information on core because you weren't going to get information on car with the wide receiving core. You had beforehand and the other part of it is Mike Mayock. And I'm glad you brought him up because I real questions about I know his ability to valuate players because I've watched him do it for a decade. Plus, but there's a whole 'nother part of being a general manager and being a front office guy, which is one is the player evaluation. The others the player transaction the player contract trade compensation and for the raiders to not be pushed into listen. You got a first round firm. Laurie Cooper we want that first round in for Antonio Brown. That's clearly the raiders held their ground. They said, oh, you got a Friday deadline. Okay. We'll let that deadline pass. And once that deadline passed the raiders, I think realized the Steelers are up against it. They don't want that bonus to come do. And they were able to get in Tonio Brown for the minimal possible compensation. You could get a player of this caliber for that doesn't have that isn't you know, facing some trial this off season that could be facing a year long suspension. They got him for thirty five cents on the dollar. It's a huge win for them. See you brought up Mike Tomlin, which is interesting in what didn't work between Tomlin and aby. Now. Antonio Brown is going to have a very different coach very different personality with probably a different stronghold on that Oakland Raiders team. How do you think those two are gonna mash don't have any clue I mean, Jon Gruden hasn't really had a lot of high profile players you'll go back to days in Oakland when the Jerry Rice and Tim Brown when Jerry came over from San Francisco and play with them. They had the outstanding season. Rich Gannon in VP of the league. They put up tremendous numbers as a group. But I don't know what kind of offense they're going to run. I don't know if they're going to be three receivers. I don't know if the offense of lying can hold up. I know how Antonio how he thrives. He drives a three receiver offense. He has to build a play all up and down the lineup. You have to build a Bill. Hi him. He's also you gotta run some routes where him he just gets the ball. And he's able to get yards after the kit. So to me, I know what AB does what is Gruden going to do don't know that their best receiver right now happens to be there tied in are. They going to lose him in free agency. How much more football does. Jordy Nelson have left 'em. So I don't know what system John is going to know how AB thrives and how he's become the best receiver in enough. Oh, that's the football part of it. And then the personalities part of it is I watch Jon Gruden win a Super Bowl with Keyshawn Johnson and that hut Super Bowl hangover honeymoon lasted all of nine games the following season before Keyshawn got sent home deactivated vinyl seven games of the season. High would say he won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay. And keep schon was on the row. Correct. I totally agree with that. I wasn't a attributing key show on as the main factor. Buy and that's that was a defense dominated team. But that was at Tampa Bay team that prior to Gruden getting there had given up to number one's four Keyshawn his first. Year. They win a Super Bowl all collectively Derrick Brooks, Warren, sapphire, Lynch, all those guys. And then by the midway point and next season. Go home, we'll keep paying you. We'd rather you be anywhere. But here Gruden doesn't have a long history that I'm aware of of gelling with big time personalities, particularly along leash to Rex particularly offense of side of the ball. Like, those Tampa teams had some big time personalities on defense, but Gruden didn't seem to be meddling with that nearly as much so, but that was also eighteen years ago fifteen years ago, so how much has he evolved. How much he changed that first year in Oakland? He seemed to push a lot of the big time personalities out the door was that a humbling moment form or was this as simple as even if it's not with Flosse, wait, we can get this player for that. How could we possibly say? No, especially when they had the cap space to give Antonio a contract. He want for us to there's not going to be some dust up. They're going to be some dust. Going to be some problems. They don't have some issues on the sideline. How they go forward to me is how how does Gruden handle an elite player who draws a lot of attention. And how does AB handle the transition from what he was doing in Pittsburgh where he was frequently late March into his own be doing things that no one on on the staff knew what he was going to do within the offense doing some freelancing and getting away with it for a number years. Who is he going to be when he shows up to this? Because typically when you see someone who has that type of personality when they changed typically, there's a change in attitude will he get back to being known as the hardest working guy for the raiders because that's way, he is also, but which shows up that's that's going to be the question that he's going to have to answer this during this football season at the trade deadline the Houston Texans traded of fourth and seventh for Damaris Thomas. The. Dr right before last season. Jarvis Landry was traded for a fourth and a seventh for Antonio Brown to be available for third and fifth and for him to be available for a team. It's not like buffalo was trading third and fifth where you're like, okay. We're getting. But how what version are we getting this is one of his preferred destinations he got his money. He's going they are looking for a face of the Oakland Raiders for the move to Vegas. He now is I would say head to head with their cars, the only two realistic options for that along with Gruden Cesena. Huge win for Oakland for the Steelers to double back on sees point from earlier are they going to look back on wait. How did the big the three Bs era end with Levy on bell sitting out a year with the Antonio's skipping the final week and then trading them for thirty five cents on the dollar. That's how I didn't win the championship. I said for the last couple years. I didn't think collectively all the things they had going on off the field, the selfishness and the me look. Me that they have there on that team. I didn't think so I thought it will definitely be they underperformed. And there was this narrative that well the Steelers just do things differently. That's their family. Will it turns out doing things differently? Lease for them did not work out. This very public divorce has finally come to an in between Antonio Brown in this dealers. We'll talk much more about this over the course of the next couple of hours coming up. How is LeBron coming up short? When compared to MJ and Kobe that's next on on. You can always chunk us out on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM. I will get to LeBron James and a second. But first couple of big plays from last night. Hawks. Pelicans, John Collins, watch it. Most nights that would be the alleyoop of the night in the league. Now that was not the case John Collins been having a bunch of these highlights signs in warriors, Katie Kevin Durant, showing off the passing skills with the no look to funds McKinney. Sparta katie's game. We don't see that often. That's a beautiful. No because they have so much talent to they don't need him to do that to distribute like that. But he's capable the hardworking twain way uses every move in his arsenal. Not wise. Now, I'm a big Dwayne way fan. But man, this do stays on the grid, and that was part of the little hurting campaign. Remember Adidas fall down seven get up eight Washington. It's. Come on, man. He's trying to get everything out in this last Dan here. But here's what you were talking about more from the game. Derek Jones junior with dunk of the year. Watch it in slow motion. I mean, it's to his left hand on the right side. Very seldom ever gonna see someone dunked the basketball and not touched a room. Yup. Man, the catch athleticism. Now, you talk about greatest athletes in the world should be part of the split. Dwight Howard on a dunk contest. Doing this the the basically throw dunk this guy said being the dunk contest in have just people just throwing him out. I mean, he can't dribble. He's not the other way just on him alleys. That's what he does. Dunk of the year and one of the best in game dunks we've ever seen the degree of difficulty and watch that thousand times moving onto the Lakers. Now among the many things they have lost. Well, Saturday's game their fifth straight. Lonzo Ingram both shut down for the year, and perhaps some of LeBron's invincibility. According to an anonymous Western Conference executive LeBron is quote, throwing people under the bus every chance he gets another executive said now it's all about deferring and putting blame on somebody else instead of being like an old school guy and saying I've got to do a better job. Great players in great leaders. That's what they do. That's what Kobe Bryant would have done. That's what Michael Jordan would have done. Nick. What was your reaction to this? Now, we're getting a little ridiculous here. Now, we're there are a lot of fair criticism about LeBron and the Lakers for this disastrous season. Nobody denies that. But this this. Anonymous, western garments, executive unless it's an anonymous executive within the Lakers. I'm really curious where he's getting this information because he clearly is saying LeBron is doing more things behind the scenes than he's doing publicly what he's calling up a guy that runs a rival team Denver Nuggets. Let me tell you. And I was just making what some team out west. Here's what I know. What I know is that this is a year where lebrons leadership style his approach didn't work, the LeBron's embracing embracing of the idea of getting Anthony Davis or anybody else that clearly didn't work most notably maybe for the veterans on one year contracts because the young players at least offense playing fine. But this revisionist history that let me tell you what Kobe would have done. I stop it everyone. We all saw Koby. We all know, we saw Kobe in a parking lot taniwha. Who would listen saying, Andrew biennium? He got me come on. Now, jordan. I think absolutely. Absolutely made his teammates better to a degree much greater than Kobe did. But Jordan also the idea that he was warming cuddly about it that wasn't his leadership style. Now. It's leadership style was incredibly effective almost scaring guys into playing their best basketball. What do you do you think it's totally different than that? Even though he was intense. I would say there was no one who was with Michael Jordan Ona's team. This teammates were afraid just because they had a couple dust up and other guys gotten fights in practice. But that wasn't that wasn't Michael's whole mode. I wasn't saying I don't think they were afraid because he punched Kerr I just meant the standard of excellence was so high and Jordan's commitment every single night that he's going to show up to me. There was a factor of if I know he's going to show up in game thirty eight I better show up in game thirty so I think saying Jordan got the most out of his teammates as totally fair. But we can't just because the Lakers have had an injury riddled terrible season. We can't all of a sudden change what we've seen. From LeBrun for the better part of two decades. Which is he's always made guys around in better. He's always been the ultimate teammate. He's always been a guy who you shoot better on passes from him. Then from other people that is what the number sell you. And that is what see his teammates will tell you up and down the board. But it's also he's LeBron James. He's going to get criticized. So us thinking that there might be some drama around him. Yes, we should have been expecting it. Now, if we would have known that at thirty six games into sixty they only one thirty games out of the sixty six games. They played there'd be a lot more drama around. Lebron james. So LeBron if you don't win there's gonna be more stuff around you. And that's part of being LeBron James the part that he really missed on the analyzing the type of team that was a huge mistake him. Magic Pelinka whoever came up with that. That was a huge mistake him trying to support Anthony Davis or letting people know that he talked to Anthony Davis. That was a huge mistake. So. Those are the things that LeBron that he should be in his camp like they should feel responsible for the rest of the season. The injuries him being injured. I'm sure it's been a very frustrating season. Forget Lakers fan but full of Ron Janes because this will be known as the loss season. And if they don't win a championship will look back on the season and been like, wow, it got off to such a bad start. And they never recovered all that I totally agree with. But the which is why I think it's so unnecessary for whoever this Western Conference. Anonymous executive is to be like, and by the way, he's been. He's been a terrible teammate this year. He's been killing his teammates on on the record and off the record and Kobe and Michael wouldn't have done that like this is this is piling on. Maybe because the guy has been there have been a lot of opportunities to get after LeBron over the last seven and a half years until this season. So now, it's now the jackals are out. So which I understand that part of it. I just don't think it's accurate to. What this season has been the problem for the Lakers has not been LeBron passing blame around the prime for the Lakers has been the Rosser construction which Laurent had a hand in the injuries. And the fact that the team never came together in any way, shape or form though the team came together. Now, we can't we can't at Christmas. Okay. Sure. Post once the postal bronze injury. They never trade. Rumors. That's the injury the trade rumors since then that's when the season got away from an unprecedented season for LeBron James. He's never had to deal with injuries. Never missed that many games. He's never had to be a leader and it failed. He's never tried to get someone to come to that magnitude degree in that publicized and that didn't work. So maybe maybe this has taken until maybe not to the degree of what another executive says. But isn't it on the board that things are crumbling and fallen apart behind the scenes, well sure, this has been I don't know about crumbling falling behind the scenes, but the problem with the Lakers right now is there's they don't have enough. Good players people watch the game. On Saturday night. Lebron played twenty eight minutes because they're doing this minutes restriction and those twenty eight minutes. In addition going thirty ten and twelve the Lakers outscored Boston by eleven points in the twenty minutes. He did not play. They got outscored by twenty four points such is life win who's out when Ingram's out when lonzo's out when Ingram we'll talk about it more. But when Ingram and Lonzo going to be out for the remainder of the season. Like, you just don't have enough high level or even mediocre NBA players to compete, even if LeBron is playing well and owning anyone would criticize his level of play the on Saturday night or in particular level of play on the offense of end since he came back from the injury. Well since he came back from the injury. I mean, the first few games were very very sluggish. He's definitely not playing as playing wait Saturday night against the Celtics. He did look better. And I'm the one that said that LeBron needs to sit down I also lebrons plane only playing for pride because he wants to build a show because he looked a lot more energetic. Because seasons over with like this season is lost. Like, you are right. Don't want to blame on the brunt. But this Laker season has fallen apart and you can go from ownership to the front office to the coaching staff. And yeah and LeBron James in that because when you sign the Ron at this stage, we don't expect him to get hurt. All where everyone gets hurt. Well, he's LeBron James he not supposed to get hurt. So that was a huge part to these young players in that Anthony Davis thing that helped the season fall apart in his totality veteran players young players in LeBron admitting Yemi and AD talked about this summer did not help high time now for put great on its sponsored by carmax. Joel Embiid had a strong return from his knee injury. Put a thirty three and twelve in a Sixers win over the Pacers. Both the Sixers and Pacers now tied for that third spot in the Eastern Conference Nick put a great enjoy all day yesterday. I give Joel in a first game back the defense in the second half. And he's the key. That was the story of this game. The patriots scored thirty second half points. That's remarkable by Philly and a very important game. Because that three seat out east is critical to avoid that first round four five matchup. So I give Joe Elena. Oh, he was excellent. I like the fact that they're gonna play him in four or five minute stints. You could see took some time to get his win. But men twenty seven minute twenty eight minutes thirty three points right there. That's getting the most of it to superstar. I've Lee, and he's got the charisma. He's he's on the board for the next face NBA. So he gives international player to ever more American and international because the college experience not college because how how goes about. He's a very American. Coming up time to start worrying about the warriors. That's next on first things. First saying, it's an American thing. Amanda by trying to slam into. In five days to the best pound for pound fighters on the planet. Put their perfect records on the line at AT and T stadium is aerospace junior takes on making Garcia for the world welterweight championship. Sunday, nine pm eastern, six Pacific live on paper view border now. Not right. This second. But after the show would be a better time time for us to go viral. The biggest story the weekend was Antonio Brown getting traded to Oakland. Here's what son auto thought about him being traded. Auto you ready? You ready? You to go son. What we going? You go into the Oakland Raiders. Ready? So the sun auto did not get the dad's gift of gab. Really execute. Can we've seen some videos a him playing football and absolutely cute kid. Yeah. AB could take maybe some PR lessons from the young Otto. Smile. Don't say quite as much people who say nice things about you as more. He's cutest kid. No. Well, obviously, it's not as cute as the kid. Got a good smile though. I time for storage to start your morning sponsored by Gillette, clear gel now that former Steeler Antonio Brown is settled attention turns to former Steeler via Mbale. Rumors are flying about is free agency approaches. Derek Carr started following bell on Twitter after the raiders traded for AB, Nikki think bell could sign in Oakland's. I'd say it's a possibility. I wouldn't think it's likely and even if John Gruden embraces the idea of bringing the Tonio Brown for that rock bottom compensation trying to all of a sudden bring in Steelers west without as high level of a quarterback to me would be a bad idea. Like, I think these are two great players. But I don't know if you want to after you usher out to your most high character guys in a locker room and clue McNamara Cooper one season. Bring in the real quick. Mark of in a guy on bell. Why don't over? It's a character question, Mark. But maybe decision making regards to the drug policy question, Mark. I I wouldn't bring them both in. Yeah. I don't have a problem with him plan for the raiders. But they just have more priorities. They need a rush. Remember Khalil Mack big gap that he left and the defense. It's still there. They still need a playmaker safety. So they still have a number of problems offense of lying so running back but tensely quarterback it's one of many needs. But I wouldn't have a problem with them playing together. It's just not the best fit to the Cowboys. Now veteran linebacker Sean Lee will be back in Dallas for the twenty nine thousand nine season that after green to terms on a one year three and a half million dollar restructured deal to stay with the Cowboys. The injury prone Lee will turn thirty three this summer. Save is a good move. What was a good move for him for Dallas? I believe with their two linebackers that they have Bolton them Pro Bowl level players. It's nice to have a veteran who can play one. One two three spots in case. There's an injury. But will he be injured? I believe in playing less snaps. It should be able to help him out. And he should be great special teams player. So for three million dollars. It's goodbye. We knew that Sean Lee was not going to be on the Cowboys at seven million dollars, which is one his cap hidden salary for his price. I was going to be before the restructure. We thought it was at least I thought it was on the board. He would be cut cutting tiredly. I think this is probably the best of both worlds. We know. Jalen Smith was excellent last year. See if he continues that form late and Vander ash was amazing as a rookie. He continues that form and Sean Lee as a leader. And as a veteran and someone in that meeting room that's worth Jason Witten. Went on the offense one on the defensive side to give them more leadership to the NBA. Now. Sixers Pacers it out yesterday. Sixers dominated thanks to Joel Embiid. He returned to action after missing eight games at thirty two points, twelve assists. The Sixers move into a tie now with Indiana for the third best record in the east, Nick. How dangerous Philly when beat is playing. Like this. Listen Embiid was excellent. The defense was suffocating the second half. Indiana, scored thirty points and bead with thirty three points, twelve rebounds was a great return for him and see very important in the standings Celtics Pacers. Sixers two of them are going to be in the four five line. So the right now the Sixers got up to the three line tied with the tiebreaker over Indiana enormous game for them because they don't want to be playing in that first round four. All right. There's a number of things that make Philly tough match-up. They lead the NBA in attendance. They over twenty thousand the only in big team has over twenty thousand also their ability for Joel Embiid to get you in trouble. And they got four starters that shoot over eighty percent from the free throw line, everyone, of course, been some African but been moving. Big now, just huge more bad news to go with the existing bad news that there has been the regular season. Both Brandon Ingram Lonzo ball were shut down for the remainder of an already disappointing year. Neither will be needed for the playoff run. The T will most likely not be making Nick what does this mean for the Lakers? Now moving forward Ingram thing is a real big problem. And it's a scary injury. And I understand listening deep vein thrombosis. It's blood clot. And it's a blood clot in his arm in his shoulder area as opposed to in his leg, which is more typical. They reportedly caught it early. They think they can deal with it. We've serene wombs had a blood clot came back fine. Chris Bosh had bad blood clots and ended his career but for Ingram. Let's just assume that because it was caught early. They can deal with it. Right. Because that is that's the only way he's of key point for this team either trade wise or otherwise moving forward. He was one of the best basketball was life since the all star game six games. Averaging twenty eight points per game that averaging that after throughout the first year and a half of his than twenty only a clips twenty six points one time. And so the I said last week that one of the few bright spots for the Lakers was with the season falling apart the Anthony Davis trade they had a more attractive package put together because they're gonna have a lottery pick or good lottery. Pick and Ingram was looking better. And better and now for Ingram to have a real question Mark about can he be the centerpiece of trade when he has this injury. He has this condition if you will and can't show you can't have sixteen games of that level production. Instead, it could just be an outlier that's bad news. And for Lonzo that what if the Lakers defense all of a sudden went back to being a top twelve defense when Lonzo came back. You could just say all right? Look it was Alonzo affect defensively which makes him a more attractive trade peace. Instead, they won't see him on the court this year. So this is way worse news. Than the five game losing streak or anything else going on with the team. These two young players not playing again this year is a big deal and potentially hugely problematic for them in the trademark. And if they decide to trade them, they can never say that they know a kind of players they're going to be if they do put them in a trade they'll be given up on them early. You mentioned Ingram plan the best basketball of his career. They also from the injury standpoint. What if they get lucky what if they can't move Ingram? They get another free agent. Aucoin come join LeBron. And then Ingram's able to pick up where he left off next season because of the injury or that he can't get traded. Unfortunately for him, it's bad timing. But also with Lonzo out with Ingram out. Coups must hurt. That's what I sit. Lebron? I'd sit him on out. Like, why waste those minutes. You can't you can't even justify all. Well, the young guys getting more chemistry more time on the court. No, you're putting minutes onto a superstar that you're going to need those minutes. I would I would actually. Be trying to tank right now to try to get the my the highest probability of winning the lottery decided I might be able to get Zion. And when you bring up the lottery people, I should understand. It's e tank if you take if you better lottery, it's not just about Zion. Everyone wants I on. But it's the better chance of getting the second pick the third pick getting a player that people are mentioned. No, no, of course for the audience because they might see if the Lakers to seize point if they fall to more places in the standings. They all of a sudden would have twenty five percent chance of top four pick. So even if they're chance of Zion is a couple percent like the ability to get there's John rant. There's I on there's RJ Barrett. There's guys that people consider blue, Dan, it's more of an asset. Right. And the is much more attractive inner trade one of the arguments, I had to not shutting down the Brown is you don't know if you're going to be able to trade these guys you don't know if we're going to try to all of them or any of them. So more court time with him with these young players is relevant. That that's now out the window. Like that is you we didn't know what the time Ingram was going to have any type of serious situation. And it was being reported. They thought Lonzo might be back this week there. Now both done for the year. So that arguments to why LeBron showed play doesn't qualify because LeBron playing with the Caruso, and John Williams that mauve honor. That's irrelevant question about Lonzo ball. If we have some semblance of an idea of who Ingram was especially since we've seen him after the all star break is the jury still out on Lonzo ball. He's missed a big part of the season. He seems to be kind of injury prone to know what kind of player he is. Or do you need to see another year? So before you could clump. No, no. He's got a problem. I mean is he is he going to ever develop a jump shot? He can't shoot free throws. So ultimately like how good how high is his ceiling in the NBA? Now, he did become their best defender. But you don't spend the lottery pick typically top five pick for a guy to be a defense of specialist. So they're still so many questions as far as all game. Yeah. Lonzo he needed the full year of year two and a full year with LeBron at least to have any idea of what's he going to up to that draft stat stock? I would say right now, he the odds are he will never live up to the drafts the draft pick. But we don't know what it is like he needs at least at least another full season under his Bill move onto the warriors. Not a great weekend for the best team in basketball. That's because they lost to the second worst team in basketball last night. In fact, they've lost six of their last ten games. And Kevin Durant left in the fourth quarter last night with an ankle injury. It was overheard in the tunnel. Yelling. We need to be playing championship. Escott ball. However, Klay Thompson had a different take take a listen. Expect crowd to be little more into it too. Like, I know was not the playoffs. But he's our last go round oracle lease. You can stand up. If some we make good player, especially beginning. We need that energy species. Time of the year is hard to conjure up energy every single night because you're looking for the playoffs now run. So we expect a fans kind of you know, bring that from the jump. He can't. I mean, it's like still you can't bring it every night. But still it helps when it doesn't matter playing the sons or the will the bugs whoever it is. We need that energy from them because we feed off that. We don't hear a lot of sentiment from Klay Thompson, generally. But a lot of emotion after this loss. How alarming is the warriors recent slump CC arming to me like we've seen teams the reason. Why teams have a hard time putting together three or four seasons in a row at a championship level because you get distracted. It becomes very very difficult to expectations changed the players even their expectations have changed as far as going to the Rena it's the same marina. But they're not putting on the same performance. They put on the last three or four years. So the fans are reacting in that way. I take exception to what he was saying. I was watching this game. And the warriors got off to their typical star had a nice double digit lead in the first quarter. But they gave up forty point in the second quarter in the second quarter. So their defense is not nearly on the level. Now, we haven't seen all the players playing well together, I would say eagle is not the same player. Shaun Livingston is not the same player off the bench Draymond as an office. Player is not nearly the same. So clay when you're talking about the people or co because I'm sure though to same people. All right now, do they come to the game with different expectations. They might. But what they've seen on the court is a different warriors team are not as deep as they have been. So the basketball that they're playing even based on the record as you can see is not up to the standard that these fans have been used to you got him spoilt clay, and listen, I really really liked Klay Thompson this to me was foolish comment. He said he he said, his listen, obviously, we can't bring it every night. But hopefully fans that's not how this works. And when the warriors have made it clear that they are going to take the regular season. The last few years kind of for granted some nights your fans are going to now they're what is so it's not even confusing. It's almost predictable about the warriors at this point was their games this weekend. We I said last week that if they if they were the warriors thing that we all thought they were going to be the beginning of the year. They blow out the nuggets they would remind. Everybody that they would have a real intensity. They were understand the one seat is on the line on Friday night with the team trying to chase them, and it would play some of their best basketball, and they had a near twenty point lead at halftime. And they beat the nuggets by seventeen points. But it's like the moment they did that it's been since February twelfth since they've won back to back basketball games thing about that. It's almost been a month they won't back to back games. But the other point you made see about Draymond so dream on obviously is out there for his defense. And they allow forty points in the second quarter and dream on defense has not been up to the level that had been in recent years. But if we show the last meaningful play of the game, this is where Draymond has been killing them. They let me just set the stage bit steps bringing the ball up the court. They're down three points. Steph is double teamed the entire time. And when he throws it to drain on you can see it, no one is guarding Draymond. And he didn't even look to the basket to three point game. The seventy three win season dream on shoots that Bill that Bill two years ago post. Seventy three win season. He at least turns and faces. So they have to collapse on him and go good shot. Great shot. Draymond is being guarded in that on that possession like of incident. Like, we know you're not shooting. So we can just use the man away from you that once Kevin Durant goes out of the lineup as he did midway through the fourth quarter. All of a sudden offense can be quelled even with the great Steph curry on the court like that playwright there is telling because guys are saying drain on no problem whatsoever. He was thirty eight percent the seventy three when he was thirty four percent the following season. Now he's under twenty five percent and guys in big spots guarding him accordingly. Steph curry said after the game the difference between seems like the difference between this here last year is last year we had a little flight, but we were injured this year. We're having we're all healthy. It seems like that's an issue right now, they can't seem to get it all together is that how it feels to you see watching this here in watching last year that they can't quite put it all together last year. They did have a built in excuse in Lascaux. They still play with. More energy. You didn't see the inconsistency this late in the season. When all the guys were were healthy. But they really have a problem because we won't ever Bill to give him a Nuff credit because they what a collection shooters, they have is really special. But man, they were great defensive team. And that's how you win championships because you can't shoot three's every night. Depend on ask Houston when they went cold lash it you have to build a play some defense. And that is what made the warriors so special. That's what made has made them. One of the best teams not only of talent. But as far as wrecker, and that's why you could put them in a outmanned with this team beat the bulls. Would this be the old Lakers because on the defensive end they've been special on that note in the last thirty plus years only two teams have won a championship without a top ten defense one of the Shatt Koby Lakers and LeBron's team in Cleveland? The warriors right now are the fourteenth ranked defense and basketball. So they they're not going to get up into the top three as they had been early on. But you stay out of the top ten historic historically speaking, you're in the danger zone as far as being a championship team. We'll take a break coming up who won the Antonio Brown train head on. I. Show. Oh, running back and new dad two weeks. Two weeks. New dad. Brian Westbrook joins us again. Number three, number three in the last night's fine. Vinyl? Have you? Process in the problem. The real men get hit ahead of quick trying to work my way up to that. Off-limits? Parents get him Brian. Steeler, and he came out as a raider the Steelers traded into Oakland in exchange for a third and fifth round pick for Pittsburgh. If nothing changes they're less now with juju Smith Schuster as their top receiver Schuster tweeted this picture on Sunday with the caption. I'm ready. All right, Brian where does this trade leave the Pittsburgh Steelers could football as you guys know is two different things in the locker room in on the field. And I think in the locker room, this leaves Mike Tomlin and opportunity to really Rian juvenile his character his culture that things that he wants. And it also allows Ben Rothlisberger opportunity to become the leader on their football team. Again, I remember when Teo left us now up. Donovan McNabb has opportunity to step up as a main leader as the guy in that locker room, but you transfer to the field and you lose fifteen touchdowns to me with the agent quarterback with the running back the second year trying to get going Jiang's Connor he's. Going see eight-man boxes juju Smith Schuster only seen single covers. He's gonna see double covers. Now. It's a different thing on the field. And I saw the same way when Teo left now, I'm seeing seven eight man boxes instead of five six Mam boxes. Little bit harder to run that way. We're seeing different coverages little bit harder to catch the ball. There's gonna be a lot of different guys need to step up Connor McDonald, ju just miss Schuster. All those guys are going to have to step up life without those fifteen test our best receiver in the game is totally different than with them. Yeah. Endless look at the last five ten years. Just Pittsburgh Steelers defense hadn't been real good. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers have won those games have been based on the special teams and on that often. So I believe that they'll have a competent offense around Ben believe, they'll get tight ends more involved. I do believe they have talented tight ends that were underutilized. But man, they're in for rude awakening because you can say what you want high school. Coach taught me this George Smith. Hey, Chris, it ain't Xs and os this the willies in jokes, and we got him Chris. And when we got him people will see that they don't have them in Pittsburgh. So it's an opportunity for not only for been rothlisburger to be able to tinker with his image and his leadership. But more importantly, Mike Tomlin because I believe this is going to be one of the stones that break the back of Mike Tomlin with the Pittsburgh Steelers because they have been very very patient. But when you run the type of organization that they have run, and we have seen the type of talent that left that locker room with no too little compensation. It's criminal. That's criminal to have to of all time best at their position. And what do you say? Because when you look at the players next year, they're going to have they're going gonna have draft third round pick and that fifth rounder. You got nothing but air for for lady on bail, even so now, you're going to see and you've got these two players for those two those two arguably the best running back and view. The best wide receiver in all football. And so this might ultimately fall on Mike Tomlin. But it's still is for an office kind of look itself in the mirror now 'cause each step of the way, they misjudged I would argue both of these relations with Antonio Brown. This time last year, they redid his contract not to give him more money, but to free up cap space for them for the twenty eighteen season, which they needed in part because they had franchise Taglay bell. And he was gonna have a fifteen million dollar cap it. That's why in Tokyo rounds cap it if he were on the Steelers this year was going to be twenty two million dollars with them off the Steelers, it's twenty two million dollars. He Antonio Brown on the Steelers. Twenty nineteen is the biggest dead money hit in fell history that self inflicted that is because of the restructure they did because they didn't see this coming. Additionally, one of the reasons lady on didn't agree with term deal. One of the reasons in Tony was upset with his contract was they have general philosophy of we are except for the quarterback. We're not. Guaranteeing any dollars after year. One will now you have had maybe the best running back, and maybe that's why receiver go out the door. And when you got back was the sixty six and one hundred and forty first picks on the draft, and perhaps a little piece in that locker room. But does that translate to success on the field piece in the locker room? The other teams in your division are getting better that Baltimore. They're trying to get better with Lamar Jackson the Cleveland Browns somehow continue to get better. A lot more talent there. So you may have some peace in the locker room, but winds on the field keep people having jobs. That's the most important thing you let that type of town ago. It's hard to get those winds fifteen touchdowns. It's a reason Antonio Brown has had six seasons over hundred yards a bunch of catches. He's a special player. Would you rather have peace or else win and fighting Kasindol? Oh, no. We want. We want to win. Listen, I want everybody get paid. And it's nice to have peace. But when he games is the reason why they're winning championships is are are certainly our go. And there are no good locker rooms in the NFL when you lose. You know, what we don't get soundbites bond because we don't even go there for sound bites because that's a losing team in the Pittsburgh Steelers, the winning organization, this is one of the biggest challenges that they would have faced in recent history. How do you survive taken that cap it because for me when they came back compensation three or four five I would have laughed at them and told them listen not enough. He's gonna play football for me. He don't play football for me. He's not gonna play football for anyone else. I'm not giving up the best receiver in the game because he's not happy. And it's also about them guarantees. He wanted to new contract. He could salvage the situation with the quarterback. Well, and the other element is the guy who's tweet we show juju Jews numbers say he's ready to step into a number one role. That's what is number say. We took a deeper look at it before the show. He was double teams on less than one percent of snaps last year, and the majority of that one percent happened in the final week when Antonia wasn't there like so Antonio was double teamed on nearly ten percent of. Snaps last year judkins going to be facing a totally different football reality this coming season, then his rookie season. He had teams that worried about lady on bell Antonio Brown last year situation, we're team to worried about Antonio Brown. Now, who's the guy you want to take away on Pittsburgh Jew, and may James comment? Okay. James Connors, juju you start. They with James Caan packet alpha of lying is very good. And that's what they decide to do these people here you didn't want it. So we're going to report if I two guys who have been good to foster penalty, we're going to extend those guys center and guard on Pat, you were gonna say, Pat. Ever just going to be tilted toward the passing game will be centered around juju and the tight end, and you basically, very good Titanic. Very good titan. But listen they're going to have to throw the ball. This is a passing league right now. Of course, Jayme Connor went out there, and it had his business in the absence of leaving bell. But it's a passing league juju will fill the difference without having Antonio Brown. And in a passing league only the Green Bay Packers through the ball on a higher percentage of down to the Pittsburgh Steelers last year. So are they going to be able to remake on the fly in an off season that type of team they are because I don't think you can throw the ball sixty eight percent of the time the way they did last year without Antonio Brown. And I don't know James Connor was very good early in the season trailed off a bit late. Can he be a work horseback throughout the season at a high level? These are all real questions. They factor in age and health of your quarterback as well. How healthy can Ben Rothlisberger be entire season wise and how much that age and? Deterioration because he's getting older how that be handled in that locker rooms. Yeah, I don't think been at this point because him and his agent are talking with Pittsburgh about an extension to me. Ben Rothlisberger not signing new extension to hand the ball. No. Okay. So regardless of we try to put an offense around. Okay. What's our talent level? So we'll try to highlight the talent level the talent level in that often starts with that quarterback. And it's not his ability Bill to hand the ball. It's throw the ball down the field to build a very offense. Call audibles and Bill to get them into the right place consistently. So even though they don't have the town. Now, I can say this the Pittsburgh Steelers in the last fifteen years they have drafted wide receivers better than any team in the National Football League. And it's not even close. They don't use high compensation to Bill to get their players. But man, they have developed for our five guys who were featured in offenses either in Pittsburgh are Mike Wallace manual, San news. Swing guys who went other places like so they have done a tremendous job of cultivating wide receiver talent there. This organization. Took a big hit PR wise this off season. Yeah. The General Magic coming out and talking about fifty two kids and a quarterback all the fighting within Tony Brown. The way the levian bell situation ended how much of a public relations makeover if you will does this organization needs to put itself through to get back to at least the level the standard. It was playing. The of my Tomlin can continuous streak of not having a losing season. Like the worst they've ever been in the last decade is eight so if they come out next year and despite everything last year they missed the playoffs. If next year they come out, and they get to ten wins. Then that's the makeover you need if they come out. They have the first losing season. The Steelers of add in over a decade. Then it just continues the trend you're talking, but I will see a little bit later in the show. We take a break coming up and Tony Brown's agent Rosenhaus joins us. That's next on first things. First. First things first the raiders made the first big splash of the NFL off season trading for Antonio Brown. Giving him a new deal worth up to fifty four million dollars. His it ju- Rosenhaus joins us now to help us sort through. All drew good morning. Thanks for being with us today. Morning to be with you guys. It's a busy day start of NFL free in my office ready to go. I I'm sure we appreciate the time. Let's start tickets back to Friday. How did this all come together because things have been changing throughout the course of last week? Yeah. Well, evently the sealers and rate of agreed on a deal compensation wise, and then the raiders got permission to discuss and deal with us. We share with the sealers all along that we would be looking to just in towing conflict. We felt that he deserved to be the highest paid receiver football moving forward. And so that was importing we engaged in those discussions with the raiders. And ultimately, we're able to get a deal done. John gurney can be pretty persuasive. Drew? This is Chris Carter. Thanks for coming on. And congratulations on getting the deal done. You mentioned Jon Gruden and the role that he played a couple question in trying to get a B to Oakland, the Jon Gruden expressed to you who would be the quarterback because I heard a interview where you talked about Derek Carr being the future in Oakland as the quarterback. You know, every indication that we got was that in Toyota would be catching passes from Derek Hough. We never discussed with the raiders. Anything other than in Tonio situation. But it certainly seemed to on space upon Derek cars involved name his interaction with the 'Antonio that those two would become a dynamic duo will be followed in your opinion. Drew, why wasn't this situation in Pittsburgh salvageable, because we know the Steelers multiple times wanted it to be salvageable. Why wasn't it? You know, it it's true that there were discussions about potentially trying to work things out. But after nine his sore for years, it really was time for an Tonio to move on. And get it for start with another organization. Unfortunately, relationships were really not at a level that they needed to be free. Antonio and your MS ation it continue effectively you've got to have a strong relationship moving forward. And actress voice in the case in met with the Steelers we met with Mr. roomy Kevin covert general manager, and we both agree. Not just saying Tokyo, we both. Agreed. It would be best for Tonio to tree to how how much of the way that relationship ended was because of a Bs in Tony's relationship with the quarterback Ben Rothlisberger. When you guys went into ask for trade and not just with the Pittsburgh Steeler. Breasts. Well, that that would really be a better question for intone and and been Lanka's further. I would just say as a whole thing's roomy deteriorated that last week of the season that shortly after the season, you know, the NFL it's like anything else. It's the relationship between players and coaches, and the organization economics in contracts, all of those things are fluid and unfortunately at the end of the year, it broke up, and it was time after I said nine terrific ears in Tonia would be better off finding a new home and better for the sealers to move in a different direction, and we were able to work that out and hopefully everybody one here the sealers the Rangers enforce our climbing into Oni one more question about the vary. And do you think that it was hand? On the very end of the very end the week seventeen game the days leading up to it the right way by your client, or do you think that could have been handled maybe a little differently and still got into this result that you guys wanted? Inside the whole process and supporting Tonio one hundred percent he wanted to play in that game. Unfortunately, the Steelers decided not to. And that was really that the beginning of this deterioration. I'm not going to characterize anything that the Steelers state whether they handled a bright wrong. I support my client one hundred ten percent from the beginning through the end. And listen, we're not looking backwards early conformance. We're excited about the future. Drew? I know you're excited about the future. A little note is far as moving forward last week to a lot of rumors of ours. Buffalo being involved in buffalo wanting to bring a to buffalo. Can you get a straight on that is the truth to this Pittsburgh Steelers and buffalo could not come to compensation agreement and it was not Antonio who? Vetoed going to the Buffalo Bills. What I came to that train was never close to happy in my opinion. I think cedar. In the bills were able to reach your breathing. There wasn't any any other care to Zeeshan besides that again guys ideal with the bills the Steelers the raiders Authoirty two teams. I have a positive relationship with offering those clubs and certainly not going to get into any details or make anybody look bad. I think a lot of all three of those sorts of decisions we've got clients at a lot of Michelle McCoy with the bills some bring players on the Steelers carry now, we've got we've got some terrific inside of the raiders as well anxious through you've had a chance to talk to an Tonio. I'm sure over the past two days with all of this going on. What is he said how how excited is he about matching up with Jon Gruden and that offense out there in Oakland? Israeli elaine. Listen a dream team here. This is a great fit for an Tonio. We like everyone else think the world of Jon Gruden. He's one of the all-time great, and fell coaches in my estimation. Antonio we've got one of the top quarterbacks in the league for the Oakland Raiders, we've got raiders nation until you excited about playing in Oakland this year, going allots Vegas that's going to be thrilling Scituate should moving four. The rate of have great state, the silver and black. The raiders are one of the marquee franchises in recent NFL history Madden and everything else in all the hall of famers that they have great tradition all the championships. Alday miss just win baby. In a this is a this is a lime fate of grim fate. And we believe in Tony Lorraine. There's gonna be. Very successful moving folk drew, obviously without naming names. I'm curious if you have any other any clients that have reached out to you since this went down and look didn't said hold on AB three years left on his deal. No guaranteed money on his deal was unhappy where he was at. Now, he has a lot of guaranteed money. A new contract is happy where he's at. And he got it by simply saying, I won't out almost NBA style demanded trait. I'm not showing up trade me. Do you think this could be the start of something bigger four guys? It's very select list that have the type of reputation as far as on the field accomplishment as in Tonio Brown. Or is this an outlier? A black swan event that we won't see duplicate it. Hard to say entry case is different every player has different reasons from wanting to change teams or getting new contract. I think that if you're an agent and a player, and you have a similar situation is intelligence that you should definitely be aggressive and try to put yourself into a healthier situation. I certainly would encourage players and representatives to be aggressive the finding great fake the NFL is very tough business guys have alive life on man players. Get cut all the time with contracts players can sing deals one year and get released the next you'll see that every day this time of year. Why shouldn't a player if he's uncomfortable with this situation and has the ability on proven why not go and get? Of course, I think it should be more commonplace. Of course. I hope this becomes more common. Of course, I Kurd from central clients to emulate this and only time will tell if more people will follow him until new sleet. I drew. We thank you so much for joining us this morning all the best to Antonio as he moves forward over the course of the next couple of months, and it gets set to be Oakland rate of stress right up to this. Back to the show. Yachting seen you singer NBA writer, Vincent goodwill joins the show. I get excited. A little bit nervous when business shows. 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Full Show - AB trade, Warriors' frustrations, LeBron's future, More Lakers' issues

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Full Show - AB trade, Warriors' frustrations, LeBron's future, More Lakers' issues

"A welcome differs things. I it is Monday. I am general. He is the hall of fame. Chris Carter that is Nick rights. We have a big Monday's show for you today. Talking Lakers is LeBron throw us teammates under the bus because there's an executive who certainly thinks he is an anonymous non of on the narrow down by the end of the show were figuring out who it is lime. Money's on genie bus teams out west the warriors continued to slide, but we have to start with what happens when Brown becomes black and silver. Antonio Brown is now in Oakland raider, it was this weekend's big NFL news the Steeler, sending their very disgruntled star wide receiver out west to the raiders in return. They received a third and a fifth round pick and they're hoping much quieter calmer locker room Brown, certainly got his money. The raiders gave him. Contract. Thirty million guaranteed and up to fifty four million dollars. All right. Chris Carter, I start with you turns out there were a few teams interested in Brown. But Oakland made the final deal. What was your reaction to all of this will Oakland the tremendous winter and disa- magin it this has been Jon Gruden in his first year. Just imagine what the after coming out of the TV booth tremendous expectations ten year guarantee contract reportedly. But we went through a year, but we saw him give up. Good young players and trade them Khalil Mack. Trading him before the before the season to the bears Amari Cooper during the season. Trading him to the Dallas Cowboys. And now you're going to go out. And I like the fact that might make was involved in this. And I believe that might may out. We'll be able to help their front office because for a third round pick and a fifth round pick. I didn't think it was going to get a number one. Because I knew there was too much baggage out there, and this other things out there about AB that other teams aren't going to want. I knew from the beginning. He wanted to new contract. So that also hurts his ability to build to get a number fetch at number one pick because if you give them more compensation and draft they give you less cash if you give them less compensation draft picks, then the is more apt to give you more money and this worked out for the for the Oakland Raiders tremendous trade for them. Get an elite player playing in the prime of. His career with an offense an offense of minded coach that was under a great deal of criticism of if as if he had forgotten football when he had gone to the TV Buso, the raiders have to be very very happy about this straight. Pittsburgh steelers. They lose up and down the board front office. They lose ownership. They lose and the coaching staff loses in one day. They're gonna fire Mike Tomlin. And it's going to be this this trait right here. And what happened in this year with aby? It will continually be brought up and discuss because Mike Tomlin lost control of the Pittsburgh Steelers now because he's gone Willie build a gain control. But it's fairly obvious that he did lose control of the Pittsburgh on the raiders side of things. See when you say what if this was a year ago? What if this was John gruden's initial move last year before the season, they traded a third and fifth four Martavis Bryant and AJ McCarron. They said they got the name wrong. They sent the all. Martavis Bryant they were with the think about that. Martavis Bryant AJ McCarron same compensation. Now got you Antonio Brown. This is there's no no matter how critical of Gruden in the raiders you've been and we've been very critical on this show. This is of course, a win. They get arguably the best receiver in football. They get him to a place. He wanted to go to which matters only because of his attitude. We know he's going to work hard. No matter what. But how much of a quote distraction unquote will be and for the raiders there is an element of the Dak Prescott Amari Cooper trade to this in my eyes. Which is if they don't get Cuyler. And if they don't get Haskins in this year's draft. They will be going with their car and Gruden will need to determine if he wants to continue forward with their car after this year, if they don't use one of those first round picks on a quarterback keep in mind in twenty twenty. They still have an extra first round pick in that. Year's draft because the Khalil Mack trade. So the raiders could potentially be in the quarterback business year from now. But now they'll have fair information on core because you weren't going to get information on car with the wide receiving core. You had beforehand and the other part of it is Mike Mayock. And I'm glad you brought them up because I real questions about I know his ability to valuate players because I've watched him do it for a decade. Plus, but there's a whole 'nother part of being a general manager and being a front office guy, which is one is the player evaluation. The other is the player transaction the player contract trade compensation and for the raiders to not be pushed into listen. You got a first round firm. Laurie Cooper we want that first round for Antonio Brown. Clearly, the raiders held their ground. They said, oh, you got a Friday deadline. Okay. We'll let that deadline pass. And once that deadline passed the raiders, I think realized the Steelers are up against it. They don't want that bonus to come do. And they were able to get in Tonio Brown. For the minimal possible compensation. You could get a player of this caliber for that doesn't have that isn't facing some trial this off season that could be facing a year long suspension. They got him for thirty five cents on the dollar. It's a huge win for them. See you brought up Mike Tomlin, which is interesting in what didn't work between Tomlin and aby. Now. Antonio Brown is going to have a very different coach we're very different personality with probably a different stronghold on that Oakland Raiders team. How do you think those two are gonna mash don't have any clue I mean, Jon Gruden hasn't really had a lot of high profile players you'll go back to days in Oakland, the Jerry Rice and Tim Brown when Jerry came over from San Francisco and play with them. They had the outstanding season. Rich Gannon in VP of the league. They put up tremendous numbers as a group. But I don't know what kind of offense are gonna run. I don't know if they're gonna be three receivers. I don't know if the offense of lying can hold up. I know how Antonio how he thrives. He drives a three receiver offense. He has to build. A play all up and down the lineup. You have to build to build a high him. He's also you gotta run some routes where him he just gets the ball. And he's able to get yards after the kit. So to me, I know what AB does what is Gruden going to do don't know that their best receiver right now happens to be there tied in are. They going to lose him in free agency. How much more football does. Jordy Nelson have left 'em. So I don't know what system John is going to know how AB thrives and how he's become the best receiver in enough. Oh, that's the football part of it. And then the personalities part of it is I watch Jon Gruden win a Super Bowl with Keyshawn Johnson and that hut Super Bowl hangover honeymoon lasted all of nine games the following season before Keyshawn got sent home deactivated for vinyl seven games of the season. High would say he won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay. And keep schon was on the correct. I totally agree with that. I wasn't attributing key show on as the main factor. And that's that was a defense dominated team. But that was at Tampa Bay team that prior to Gruden getting there. Had given up to number one's four Keyshawn his first year, they win a Super Bowl all collectively Derrick Brooks, Warren, sapphire, Lynch, all those guys. And then by the midway point next season. Go home, we'll keep paying you. We'd rather you be anywhere. But here Gruden doesn't have a long history that I'm aware of of gelling with big time personalities, particularly along leash to Rex particularly offense of side of the ball. Like, those Tampa teams had some big time personalities on defense, but Gruden didn't seem to be meddling with that nearly as much so, but that was also eighteen years ago fifteen years ago, so how much has he evolved. How much is he changed that first year, and Oakland he seemed to push a lot of the big time personalities out the door. Was that a humbling moment for him or was this as simple as even if it's not with his philosophy? Wait, we can get this player for that. How could we possibly say? No, especially when they had the cap space to give Antonio contract. He won for us. The thing there's not going to be some dust up. They're going to be some dust is going to be some problems. They don't have some issues on the sideline. How they go forward to me is how how does Gruden handle an elite player who draws a lot of attention. And how does AB handle the transition from what he was doing in Pittsburgh where he was frequently late March into his own be doing things that no one on on the staff knew what he was going to do within the offense doing some freelancing and getting away with it for a number years. Who is he going to be when he shows up to Oakland Raiders because typically when you see someone who has that type of personality when they changed typically, there's a change in attitude will he get back to being known as the hardest working guy for the raiders because that's way, he is also, but which guy shows up that's that's going to be the question that he's going to have to answer this during this football season at the trade deadline the Houston Texans traded of fourth and seventh. For Damaris Thomas the right before last season. Jarvis Landry was traded for a fourth and a seventh for in Tonio ground to be available for third and fifth and for him to be available for a team. It's not like buffalo was trading third and a fifth where you're like, okay. We're getting. But how what version are we getting this is one of his preferred destinations he got his money. He's going to they are looking for a face of the Oakland Raiders for the move to Vegas. He now is I would say head to head with their cars, the only two realistic options for that along with Gruden is a huge win for Oakland for the Steelers to double back on sees point from earlier are they going to look back on wait. How did the big the three Bs era end with lady on bell sitting out a year with the Antonio's skipping the final week, and then it was trading for thirty five cents on the dollar. That's how I didn't win the championship. I said for the last couple years, I didn't think collectively all the things they had going on off the field. The selfishness. And the me look at me that they have there on that team. I didn't think so I thought it will definitely be they underperformed. And there was this narrative that well the Steelers just do things differently. That's their family. Will it turns out doing things differently? Lease for them did not work out. This very public divorce has finally come to an in between Antonio Brown in this Steelers. We'll talk much more about this over the course of the next couple of hours coming up. How is LeBron coming up short? When compared to m j and Kobe that's next on you can always chunk us out on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius XM. I will get to LeBron James and a second. But first couple of big plays from last night. Hawks. Pelicans, John Collins, watch it. Most nights that would be the alleyoop of the night in the league. Now that was not the case John Collins been having a bunch of these highlights signs in warriors, Katie Kevin Durant, showing off the passing skills with the no look to all funds o McKinney. Sparta katie's game. We don't see that often. That's a beautiful. No because they have so much talent to they don't need him to do that to distribute like that. But he's capable the hardworking twain way uses every move in his arsenal. Not wise. Now, I'm a big Dwayne way fan. But man, this do stays on the grid, and that was part of the little hurting campaign. Remember Adidas fall down seven get up eight Washington. It's. Come on, man. He's trying to get everything out in this last Dan tier? But here's what you were talking about more from the game. Derek Jones junior with a dunk of the year. Watch it in slow motion. I mean, it's to his left hand on the right side. Very seldom ever gonna see someone dunked the basketball and not touched a room. Yup. Man, the catch athleticism. Now, you talk about greatest athletes in the world. This should be part of the split. Dwight Howard on a dunk contest. Doing this the the basically throw dunk this guy said being the dunk contest and have just people just throwing him out. I mean, he can't dribble. He's not the other way just on him alleys. That's what he does. Dunk of the year and one of the best in game dunks we've ever seen the degree of difficulty and watch that thousand times moving onto the Lakers. Now among the many things they have lost. Well, Saturday's game their fifth straight. Lonzo Ingram both shut down for the year, and perhaps some of LeBron's invincibility. According to an anonymous Western Conference executive LeBron is quote, throwing people under the bus every chance he gets another executive said now it's all about deferring and putting blame on somebody else instead of being like an old school guy and saying I've got to do a better job, great players and great leaders. That's what they do. That's what Kobe Bryant would have done. That's what Michael Jordan would have done. Nick. What was your reaction to this? Now, we're getting a little ridiculous here. Now, we there are a lot of fair criticism about LeBron and the Lakers for this disastrous season. Nobody denies that. But this this. Anonymous western executive unless it's an anonymous executive within the Lakers. I'm really curious where he's getting this information because he clearly is saying LeBron doing more things behind the scenes than he's doing publicly what he's calling up a guy that runs a rival team Denver Nuggets. Let me tell you. And I was just making up some team out west. Here's what I know. What I know is that this is a year where lebrons leadership style his approach didn't work, the LeBron embracing embracing of the idea of getting Anthony Davis or anybody else that clearly didn't work most notably maybe for the veterans on one year contracts because the young players at least offense playing fine. But this revision is history that let me tell you what Kobe would have done. I stop it everyone. We all saw Koby. We all know, we saw Kobe in a parking lot taniwha. Who would listen saying, Andrew biennium? He got me was come on. Now, jordan. I think absolutely. Absolutely made his teammates better to a degree much greater than Kobe did. But Jordan also the idea that he was warming cuddly about it that wasn't his leadership style. Now. It's leadership style was incredibly effective almost scaring guys into playing their best basketball. What why do you laugh? Do you get? I think it's totally different than that. Even though he was intense. I would say there was no one who was with Michael Jordan Ona's team this team mates were afraid just because they had a couple dust up and other guys gotten fights in practice. But that wasn't that wasn't Michael's whole mode. I wasn't saying I don't think they were afraid because he punched Kerr I just meant the standard of excellence was so high and Jordan's commitment every single night that he's going to show up to me. There was a factor of if I know he's going to show up in game thirty eight I better show up in game thirty eight so I think saying Jordan got the most out of his teammates has totally fair. But we can't just because the Lakers have had an injury riddled terrible season. We can't all of a sudden change what we've seen. From LeBrun for the better part of two decades. Which is he's always made guys around him better. He's always been the ultimate teammate. He's always been a guy who you shoot better on passes from him. Then from other people that is what the number sell you. And that is what see his teammates will tell you up and down the board. But it's also he's LeBron James. He's going to get criticized. So us thinking that there might be some drama around him. Yes, we should have been expecting it. Now, if we would have known that at thirty six games into sixty they only one thirty games out of the sixty six games. They played there'd be a lot more drama around. Lebron james. So LeBron if you don't win there's going to be more stuff around you. And that's part of being LeBron James the part that he really missed on the analyzing the type of team that was a huge mistake him. Magic Pelinka whoever came up with that. That was a huge mistake him trying to support Anthony Davis or letting people know that he talked to Anthony Davis. That was a huge mistake. So. Those are the things that LeBron that he should be in his camp like they should feel responsible for the rest of the season. The injuries him being injured. I'm sure it's been a very frustrating season. Forget Lakers fan but full of Ron Janes because this will be known as the loss season. And if they don't win a championship will look back on the season and been like, wow, it got off to such a bad start. And they never recovered all that I totally agree with. But the which is why I think it's so unnecessary for whoever this Western Conference. Anonymous executive is to be like, and by the way, he's been. He's been a terrible teammate this year. He's been killing his teammates on on the record and off the record and Kobe and Michael wouldn't have done that like this is this is piling on. Maybe because the guy has been there have been a lot of opportunities to get after LeBron over the last seven and a half years until this season. So now, it's you know, now the jackals are out. So which I understand that part of it. I just don't think it's accurate to. What this season has been the problem for the Lakers has not been LeBron passing blame around the prime for the Lakers has been the Rosser construction which LeBron had a hand in the injuries. And the fact that the team never came together in any way, shape or form though the team came together. Now, we can't we can't at Christmas. Okay. Sure. Post once the postal bronze injury. They never trade. Rumors. That's the injury the trade rumors since then that's when the season got away from it sounds of an unprecedented season for LeBron James. He's never had to deal with injuries. Never missed that many games. He's never had to be a leader and it failed. He's never tried to get someone to come to that magnitude and degree and that publicized and that didn't work. So maybe maybe this has taken toll maybe not to the degree of what another executive says. But isn't it on the board that things are crumbling and fallen apart behind the scenes, well sure, this has been I don't know about crumbling falling behind the scenes, but the problem with the Lakers right now is there's they don't have enough. Good players people watch the game. On Saturday night. Lebron played twenty eight minutes because they're doing this minutes restriction and those twenty eight minutes. In addition going thirty ten and twelve the Lakers outscored Boston by eleven points in the twenty minutes. He did not play. They got outscored by twenty four points such is life win who's out when Ingram's out when lonzo's out when Ingram we'll talk about it more. But when Ingram and Lonzo going to be out for the remainder of the season. Like, you just don't have enough high level or even mediocre NBA players to compete, even if LeBron is playing well and owning anyone would criticize his level of play the on Saturday night or in particular level of play on the offense of end since he came back from the injury. Well since he came back from injury. I mean, the first few games were very very sluggish. He's definitely not playing as plain way Saturday night against the Celtics. He did look better. And I'm the one that said that LeBron needs to sit down I believe also lebrons plane only playing for pride because he wants to build a show because he looked a lot more energetic. Because seasons over with like this season is lost. Like you are right to blame on the brunt. But this Laker season has fallen apart and you can go from ownership to the front office to the coaching staff. And yeah and LeBron James in that because when you sign the Ron at this stage, we don't expect him to get hurt. All where everyone gets hurt. Well, he's LeBron James he not supposed to get hurt. So that was a huge part to these young players in that Anthony Davis thing that helped the season fall apart in totality veteran players young players in LeBron admitting Yemi and AD talked about this summer did not help high time now for put a great on its by carmax. Joel Embiid had a strong return from his knee injury. Put up thirty three and twelve in a Sixers win over the Pacers. Both the Sixers and Pacers now tied for that third spot in the Eastern Conference. Nick, put a great enjoy on beads day. I give Joel a first game back the defense in the second half. And he's the key. That was the story of this game. The patriots scored thirty second half points. That's remarkable by Philly and a very important game. Because that three seat out east is critical to avoid that first round four five matchup. So I give Joe Elena. Oh, he was excellent. I like the fact that they're gonna play him in four or five minute stints. You could see it took some time to get his win. But men twenty seven minute twenty eight minutes thirty three points right there. That's getting the most of it to superstar. I've Lee, and he's got the charisma. He's he's on the board for the next face NBA. So he gives international player to ever more American and international because the college experience not college because how how goes about. He's a very American. Coming up time to start worrying about the warriors. That's next on first things. First saying, it's an American thing. Amanda by trying to slam too. In five days to the best pound for pound fighters on the planet. Put their perfect records on the line at AT and T stadium is aerospace junior takes on Mickey Garcia for the world welterweight championship. Sunday, nine pm eastern, six Pacific live on paper view border now. Not right. This second. But after the show would be a better time time for us to go viral. The biggest story the weekend was Antonio Brown getting traded to Oakland. Here's what be son auto thought about him being traded. You ready? You ready? You to go son. What we going? You go into the Oakland Raiders. Ready? So the sun auto did not get the dad's gift of gab. Really execute. Can we've seen some videos a him playing football and absolutely cute kid. Yeah. AB could take maybe some PR lessons from the young Otto. Smile. Don't say quite as much people who say nice things about you as more. He's cutest kid. No. Well, obviously, it's not as cute as the kid. Got a good smile though. I time for storage to start your morning sponsored by Gillette, clear gel now that former Steeler Antonio Brown is settled attention turns to former Steeler via Mbale. Rumors are flying about is free agency approaches. Derek Carr started following bell on Twitter after the raiders traded for AB, Nikki think bell could sign in Oakland's. I'd say it's a possibility. I wouldn't think it's likely and even if John Gruden embraces the idea of bringing the Tonio Brown for that rock bottom compensation trying to all of a sudden bring in Steelers west without as high level of a quarterback to me would be a bad idea. Like, I think these are two great players. But I don't know if you want to after you usher out to your most high character guys in a locker room and clue McNamara Cooper off season. Bring in the real quick. Mark of in a guy on bell. Why don't over? It's a character question, Mark. But maybe decision making regards to the drug policy question, Mark. I I wouldn't bring them both in. Yeah. I don't have a problem with him plan for the raiders. But they just have more priorities. They need a rush. Remember Khalil Mack big gap that he left and the defense. It's still there. They still need a playmaker safety. So they still have a number of problems offense of lying so running back but tensely quarterback it's one of many needs. But I wouldn't have a problem with them playing together. It's just not the best fit to the Cowboys. Now veteran linebacker Sean Lee will be back in Dallas for the twenty nine thousand nine season that after green to terms on a one year three and a half million dollar restructured deal to stay with the Cowboys. The injury prone Lee will turn thirty three this summer. Save is this a good move. What was good move for him for Dallas? I believe with their two linebackers that they have bolted them Pro Bowl level players. It's nice to have a veteran who can play one. One two three spots in case. There's an injury. But will he be injured? I believe in playing less snaps. It should be able to help him out. And he should be great special teams player. So for three million dollars. It's goodbye. We knew that Sean Lee was not gonna be on the Cowboys at seven million dollars, which is one his cap Hittin salary for his price that was going to be before the restructure. We thought it was at least I thought it was on the board. He would be cutting tiredly. I think this is probably the best of both worlds. We know. Jalen Smith was excellent last year. See if he continues that form late and Vander ash was amazing as a rookie. He continues that form and Sean Lee as a leader. And as a veteran and someone in that meeting room that's worth Jason Witten. Went on the offense one on the defensive side. Give them more leadership to the NBA now. Sixers and Pacers Duke it out yesterday. Sixers dominated thanks to Joel Embiid. He returned to action after missing eight games at thirty two points, twelve assists. The Sixers move into a tie now with Indiana for the third best record in the east, Nick. How dangerous Philly when MBA is playing like this. Listen and bead was excellent. The defense was suffocating the second half Indiana scored thirty points and bead with thirty three points, twelve rebounds was a great return for him and see very important in the standings Celtics Pacers. Sixers two of them are going to be in the four five line. So the right now the Sixers got up to the three line tied with the tiebreaker over Indiana enormous game for them because they don't want to be playing in that first round four, right? There's a number of things that make Philly tough match-up. They lead the NBA attendance. They over twenty thousand only in big team has over twenty thousand also their ability for Joel Embiid to get you in trouble. And they got four stars that shoot over eighty percent from the free throw line, everyone, of course, been some African but been moving. Big now, just huge more bad news to go with the existing bad news that there has been the regular season. Both Brandon Ingram Lonzo ball were shut down for the remainder of an already disappointing year. Neither will be needed for the playoff run. The table will most likely not be making Nick what does this mean for the Lakers now moving forward? The Ingraham thing is a real big problem. And it's a scary injury. And I understand listening deep vein. Thrombosis blood clot. And it's a blood clot in his arm and his shoulder area as opposed to in his leg, which is more typical. They reportedly caught it early. They think they can deal with it. We've serene wombs had a blood clot came back fine. Chris Bosh had bad blood clots and ended his career but for Ingram. Let's just assume that because it was caught early. They can deal with it. Right. Because that is that's the only way he's of key point for this team either trade wise or otherwise moving forward. He was one of the best basketball was life since the all star game six games ABC. Averaging twenty eight points per game that averaging that after throughout the first year and a half of his more than twenty only a clips twenty six points one time. And so the I said last week that one of the few bright spots for the Lakers was with the season falling apart the Anthony Davis trade they had a more attractive package put together because they're gonna have a lottery pick or good lottery. Pick and Ingram was looking better. And better. And now Ingram to have a real question. Mark about can he be the centerpiece of trade when he has this injury, or he has this condition if you will and can't show you can't have sixteen games of that level production. Instead, it could just be an outlier that's bad news. And for Lonzo that what if the Lakers defense all of a sudden went back to being a top twelve defense when Lonzo came back. You could just say all right? Look it was Alonzo affect defensively which makes him a more attractive trade piece. Instead, they won't see him on the court this year. So this is way worse. New. News than the five game losing streak or anything else going on with the team. These two young players not playing again this year is a big deal and potentially hugely problematic for them in the trademark. And if they decide to trade them, they can never say that they know a kind of players they're going to be if they do put them in a tray they'll be given up on them early. You mentioned Ingram plan the best basketball of his career. They also from the injury standpoint. What if they get lucky what if they can't move Ingram? They get another free agent. Aucoin come join LeBron. And then Ingram's able to pick up where he left off next season because of the injury or that he can't get traded. Unfortunately for him, it's at bad timing. But also with Lonzo out with Ingram out. Coups must hurt. That's what I sit. Lebron? I'd sit him on out. Like, why waste those minutes. You can't you can't even justify all. Well, the young guys getting more chemistry more time on the court. No, you're putting minutes onto a superstar that you're going to need those minutes. I would I would actually. Trying to tank right now to try to get the my the highest probability of winning the lottery decided I might be able to get on. When you bring up the lottery people I should understand its tank if you take if you better lottery, it's not just about Zion. Everyone wants I on. But it's the better chance of getting the second pick the third pick getting a top player that people are mentioned. No, no, of course for the audience because they might see if the Lakers to seize point if they fall to more places in the standings. They all of a sudden would have twenty five percent chance of a top four pick. So even if they're of Zion is a couple percent like the ability to get there's jam rant. There's I on. There's r j Barrett. There's guys that people consider blue, Dan, it's more of an asset. Right. And the is much more attractive inner trade one of the arguments I had to not shutting down the brownies. You don't know if you're going to be able to trade these guys you don't know if we're gonna try to all of them or any of them. So more court time with him with these young players as relevant. That of course. That's now out the window. Like that is you we didn't know at the time Ingram was going to have any type of serious situation. And it was being reported. They thought Lonzo might be back this week there. Now both done for the year. So that argument as to why LeBron showed play doesn't qualify because LeBron playing with the Caruso, John Williams that mauve honor. That's irrelevant question about Lonzo ball. If we have some semblance of an idea of who Ingram was especially since we've seen him after the all star break is the jury still out on Lonzo ball. He's missed a big part of the season. He seems to be kind of injury prone to know what kind of player he is. Or do you need to see another year? So before you could clump. No, no. He's got a problem. I mean is he is he going to ever develop a jump shot? He can't shoot free throws. So ultimately like how good how high is his ceiling in the NBA? Now, he did become their best defender. But you don't spend the lottery pick typically top five pick for a guy to be a defensive specialist. So they're still so many questions as far as over all game. Yeah, Lonzo he needed the full year of year two and a full year with LeBron at least to have any idea of what's he going to up that draft stat stock? I would say right now, he the odds are he will never live up to the drafts the draft pick. But we don't know what it is like he needs at least at least another full season under his Bill move onto the warriors. Not a great weekend for the best team in basketball. That's because they lost to the second worst team in basketball last night. In fact, they've lost six of their last ten games. And Kevin Durant left in the fourth quarter last night with an ankle injury. It was overheard in the tunnel. Yelling. We need to be playing championship. Escott ball. However, Klay Thompson had a different take take. Listen. Expect crowd to be little more into it too. Like, I know was not the playoffs. But he's our last go round oracle lease. You can stand up. If some we make good player, especially beginning. We need that energy species. Time of the year is hard to conjure up energy every single night because you're looking for the playoffs now run. So we expect a fans kind of you know, bring that from the jump. He can't. I mean, it's like still you can't bring it every night. But still it helps when it doesn't matter playing the sons or the the bugs whoever it is. We need that energy from them because we feed off that. We don't hear a lot of sentiment from Klay Thompson, generally. But a lot of emotion after this loss. How alarming is the warriors recent slump CC arming to me like we've seen teams the reason. Why teams have a hard time putting together three or four seasons in a row at a championship level because you get distracted. It becomes very very difficult to expectations change the players even their expectations have changed as far as going to the Rena it's the same marina. But they're not putting on the same performance. They put on the last three or four years. So the fans are reacting in that way. I take exception to what he was saying. I was watching this game. And the warriors got off to their typical star had a nice double digit lead in the first quarter. But they gave up forty point in the second quarter in the second quarter. So their defense is not nearly on the level. Now, we haven't seen all the players playing well together, I would say ego Dahl is not the same player. Shaun Livingston is not the same player off the bench Draymond as an awful. Player is not nearly the same. So clay when you talk about the people or co because I'm sure though to same people. All right now, do they come to the game with different expectations. They might. But what they've seen on the court is a different warriors team are not as deep as they have been. So the basketball that they're playing even based on the record as you can see is not up to the standard that these fans have been used to you got him spoilt clay, and listen, I really really liked Klay Thompson this to me was foolish comment. He said he he said, his listen, obviously, we can't bring it every night. But hopefully, the fans that's not how this works. And when the warriors have made it clear that they are going to take the regular season. The last few years kind of for granted some nights your fans are going to now they're what is so it's not even confusing. It's almost predictable about the warriors at this point was their games this weekend. We I said last week that if they if they were the warriors thing that we all thought they were going to be the beginning of the year. They blow out the nuggets they would remind. Everybody that they would have a real intensity. They were understand the one seat is on the line on Friday night with the team trying to chase them, and it would play some of their best basketball, and they had a near twenty point lead at halftime. And they beat the nuggets by seventeen points. But it's like the moment they did that it's been since February twelfth since they've won back to back basketball games thing about that. It's almost been a month they won't back to back games. But the other point you made about Draymond so dream on obviously is out there for his defense. And they allow forty points in the second quarter and dream on defense has not been up to the level that had been in recent years. But if we show the last meaningful play of the game, this is where Draymond has been killing them. They let me just set the stage bit steps bringing the ball up the court. They're down three points. Steph is double teamed the entire time. And when he throws it to drain on you can see it, no one is guarding Draymond. And he didn't even look to the basket to three point game. The seventy three win season dream on shoots that that Bill two years ago post. Seventy three win season. He at least turns and faces. So they have to collapse on him, and you can go good shot. Great shot. Draymond is being guarded in that on that possession like incident like we know you're not shooting. So we can just use the man away from you that once Kevin Durant goes out of the lineup as he did midway through the fourth quarter. All of a sudden offense can be quelled even with the great Steph curry on the court like that playwright there is telling because guys are saying drain on no problem whatsoever. He was thirty eight percent the seventy three when he was thirty four percent the following season. Now he's under twenty five percent and guys in big spots guarding him accordingly. Steph curry said after the game the difference between seems like the difference between this year and last year is last year we had a little flied, but we were injured this year. We're having we're all healthy. It seems like that's an issue right now, they can't seem to get it all together is that how it feels to you see watching this here in watching last year that they can't quite put it all together last year. They did have a built in excuse in Lascaux. They still play with. More energy. You didn't see the inconsistency this late in the season. When all the guys were were healthy. But they really have a problem because we won't ever Bill to give them a noth- credit because they what a collection shooters, they have is really special. But man, they were great defensive team. And that's how you win championships because you can't shoot three's every night. Depend on ask Houston when they went cold lash it you have to build a play some defense. And that is what made the warriors so special. That's what made has made them. One of the best teams not only of talent. But as far as wrecker, and that's why you could put them in a outmanned with this team beat the bulls. Would this be the old Lakers because on the defensive end they'd been special on that note in the last thirty plus years only two teams have won a championship without a top ten defense. One of the shack Koby, Lakers and LeBron's team in Cleveland. The warriors right now are the fourteenth ranked defense and basketball. So they they're not going to get up into the top three as they had been early on. But you stay out of the top ten historic historically speaking, you're in the danger zone as far as being a championship team. We'll take a break coming up who won the Antonio Brown train head on. I. Show. Oh, running back and new dad two weeks. Two weeks. New dad. Brian Westbrook joins us again. Number three, number three in the last night's fine vinyl. Have you? The process in the real men. Get hit ahead of quick trying to work my way up to that. Off-limits apparently get him Brian. The weekend is a Steeler, and he came out as a raider the Steelers traded into Oakland in exchange for third and fifth round pick for Pittsburgh. If nothing changes they're less now with juju Smith Schuster as their top receiver. Schuster tweeted this picture on Sunday with the caption. I'm ready, right, Brian where does this trade leave the Pittsburgh Steelers could football as you guys know is two different things in the locker room in on the field. And I think in the locker room, this leaves Mike Tomlin and opportunity to really Rian juvenile his character his culture that things that he wants. And it also allows Ben Rothlisberger opportunity to become the leader on their football team. Again, I remember when Teo left us now opt out of McNabb has opportunity to step up as a main leader as the guy in that locker room, but you transfer to the field and you lose fifteen touchdowns to me with the agent quarterback with the running back the second year trying to get going Jiang's Connor he's. Going to see eight-man boxes juju Smith Schuster only seen single covers. He's gonna see double covers. Now. It's a different thing on the field. And I saw the same way when Teo left now, I'm seeing seven eight man boxes instead of five six Mam boxes. Little bit harder to run that way. We're seeing different coverages little bit harder to catch the ball. There's gonna be a lot of different guys need to step up Connor McDonald, ju just miss Schuster. All those guys are going to have to step up life without those fifteen test our best receiver in the game is totally different than with them. Yeah. Endless look at the last five ten years just pissed. I lose defense hadn't been real good. Now. The Pittsburgh Steelers have won those games have been based on the special teams and on that often. So I believe that they'll have a competent offense around Ben believe, they'll get their tight ends more involved. I do believe they have talented tight ends that were underutilized. But man, they're in for rude awakening because you can say what you want high school. Coach taught me this George Smith. Hey, Chris, it ain't Xs and os this the willies in jokes, and we got him Chris. And when we got him people will see that they don't have them in Pittsburgh. So it's an opportunity for not only for been rothlisburger to be able to tinker with his image and his leadership. But more importantly, Mike Tomlin because I believe this is going to be one of the stones that break the back of Mike Tomlin with the Pittsburgh Steelers because they have been very very patient. But when you run the type of organization that they have run, and we have seen the type of talent that left that locker room with no too little compensation. It's criminal. That's criminal to have to of all time best at their position. And what do you say? Because when you look at the players next year, they're going to have they're going to have drafted that third round pick and that fifth rounder, you got nothing but air for for lady on bail, even so now, you're going to see and you've got these two players for those two those two arguably the best running back and our. The best wide receiver in all football. And so this might ultimately fall on Mike Tomlin. But it's still is for an office kind of look itself in the mirror now 'cause each step of the way, they misjudged I would argue both of these relations with Antonio Brown. This time last year, they redid his contract not to give him more money, but to free up cap space for them for the twenty eighteen season, which they needed in part because they had franchise taglibue, I'm bell. And he was gonna have a fifteen million dollar cap it. That's why in Tokyo rounds cap it if he were on the Steelers this year was going to be twenty two million dollars and with him off the Steelers, it's twenty two million dollars. He Antonio Brown on the Steelers. Twenty nineteen is the biggest dead money hit in fell history that self inflicted that is because of the restructure they did because they didn't see this coming. Additionally, one of the reasons lady on didn't agree with term deal. One of the reasons in Tony was upset with his contract was they have general philosophy of we are except for the quarterback. We're not. Guaranteeing any dollars after year. One will now you have had maybe the best running back, and maybe that's why receiver go out the door. And when you got back was the sixty six and one hundred and forty first picks on the draft, and perhaps a little piece in that locker room. But does that translate to success on the field piece in the locker room than the other teams in your division are getting better that Baltimore? They're trying to get better with Lamar Jackson the Cleveland Browns somehow continue to get better. A lot more talent there. So you may have some peace in the locker room, but winds on the field keep people having jobs. That's the most important thing you let that type of town ago. It's hard to get those winds fifteen touchdowns. It's a reason why Antonio Brown has had six seasons over one hundred yards a bunch of catches. He's a special player telling me, would you rather have peace or else win and fighting Kasindol? Oh, we want. We want to win. Listen, I want everybody get paid. And it's nice to have peace. But when he games is the reason why they're winning championships is are are certainly our go. And there are no good locker rooms in the NFL when you lose. You know, what we don't get soundbites bond because we don't even go there for soundbites because that's a losing team in the Pittsburgh Steelers, the winning organization, this is one of the biggest challenges that they would have faced in recent history. How do you survive taken that cap it because for me when they came back compensation three zero five I would have laughed at them and told them listen not enough. He's gonna play football for me. He don't play football for me. He's not gonna play football for anyone else. I'm not giving up the best receiver in the game because he's not happy. And it's also about them guarantees. He wanted to new contract. He could salvage the situation with the quarterback. Well, and the other element is the guy who's tweet we show juju Jews numbers say he's ready to step into a number one role. That's what is number say. We took a deeper look at it before the show. He was double teams on less than one percent of snaps last year, and the majority of that one percent happened in the final week when Antonia wasn't there like so Antonio was double teamed on nearly ten percent of. Snaps last year judkins going to be facing a totally different football reality this coming season, then his rookie season. He had teams that worried about lady on bell Antonio Brown last year situation, we're team to worried about Antonio Brown. Now, who's the guy you want to take away on Pittsburgh juju and James comment? Okay. James Connors, not juju you start. They with James Caan packet alpha of lying is very good. And that's what they decide to do these people here you didn't want it. So we're going to re fortify the guys who have been good to foster penalty. We're going to extend those guys center and guard on Pat, you were gonna say, Pam. Ever just going to be tilted toward the passing game will be centered around juju and the tight end, and you basically, very good Titanic. Very good titan. But listen they're going to have to throw the ball. This is a passing league right now. Of course, Jayme Connor went out there, and it had his business in the absence of leaving bell. But it's a passing league juju will fill the difference without having Antonio Brown. And in a passing league only the Green Bay Packers through the ball and a higher percentage of down to the Pittsburgh Steelers last year. So are they going to be able to remake on the fly in an off season that type of team they are because I don't think you can throw the ball sixty eight percent of the time the way they did last year without Antonio Brown. And I don't know James Connor was very good early in the season trailed off a bit late. Can he be a work horseback throughout the season at a high level? These are all real questions. They factor in age and health of your quarterback as well. How healthy can Ben Rothlisberger be entire season wise and how much that age and? Deterioration because he's getting older how that be handled in that locker rooms. Yeah, I don't think been at this point because him and his agent are talking with Pittsburgh about an extension to me. Ben Rothlisberger not signing new extension. The hand the ball. No. Okay. So regardless of we try to put an offense around. Okay. What's our talent level? So we'll try to highlight the talent level the talent level in that often starts with that quarterback. And it's not his ability Bill to hand the ball all its throw the ball down the field to build a very offense. Call audibles and Bill to get them into the right place consistently. So even though they don't have the town. Now, I can say this the Pittsburgh Steelers in the last fifteen years they have drafted wide receivers better than any team in the National Football League. And it's not even close. They don't use high compensation to Bill to get their players. But man, they have developed four or five guys who were featured in offenses either in Pittsburgh are Mike Wallace manual, San news. Swing guys who went other places like so they have done a tremendous job of cultivating wide receiver talent there. This organization took big hit PR wise this off season. Yeah. The General Magic coming out and talking about fifty two kids and a quarterback all the fighting within Tony Brown. The way the levian bell situation ended how much of a public relations makeover if you will does this organization need to put itself through to get back to at least the level the standard. It was playing Tomlin can continuous streak of not having a losing season. Like the worst. They've ever been in the last decade is eight so if they come out next year and despite everything last year they missed the playoffs. If naturally come out, and they get to ten wins. Then that's the makeover you need if they come out. They have the first losing season the Steelers of ad in over a decade. Then it just continues the trend you're talking, but I will see a little bit later in the show. We take a break coming up and Tony Brown's agent. You Rosenhaus joins us. That's next on first things. First. First things first the raiders made the first big splash of the NFL off season trading for Antonio Brown. Giving him a new deal worth up to fifty four million dollars. His it ju- Rosenhaus joins us now to help us sort through. All drew good morning. Thanks for being with us today. Morning to be with you guys. It's a busy day start of NFL free in my office ready to go. I I'm sure we appreciate the time. Let's start tickets back to Friday. How did this all come together because things have been changing throughout the course of last week? Yeah. Well, evently the sealers and rate of agreed on a deal compensation wise, and then the raiders got permission to discuss and deal with us. We share with the sealers all along that we would be looking to just in towing conflict. We felt that he deserved to be the highest paid receiver football moving forward. And so that was importing we engaged in those discussions with the raiders. And ultimately, we're able to get a deal done. John gurney can be pretty persuasive. Drew? This is Chris Carter. Thanks for coming on. And congratulations on getting the deal done. You mentioned Jon Gruden and the role that he played a couple question in trying to get a B to Oakland, the Jon Gruden expressed to you who would be the quarterback because I heard a interview where you talked about Derek Carr being the future in Oakland as the quarterback. You know, every indication that we got was that in Toyota would be catching passes from Derek Hough. We never discussed with the raiders. Anything other than in Tonio situation. But it certainly seemed to on space upon Derek cars involved name his interaction with the 'Antonio that those two would become a dynamic duo will be followed in your opinion. Drew, why wasn't this situation in Pittsburgh salvageable, because we know the Steelers multiple times wanted it to be salvageable. Why wasn't it? You know, it it's true that there were discussions about potentially trying to work things out. But after nine his sore for years, it really was time for an Tonio to move on. And get it for start with another organization. Unfortunately, relationships were really not at a level that needed to be free. Antonio and your MS ation it continued effectively you've got to have a strong relationship moving forward. And actress voice in the case in met with the Steelers we met with Mr. roomy Kevin covert general manager, and we both agree. Not just saying Tokyo, we both. Agreed. It would be best for Tonio to tree to how how much of the way that relationship ended was because of a Bs in Tony's relationship with the quarterback Ben Rothlisberger. When you guys went into ask for trade and not just with the Pittsburgh Steeler. Breasts. Well, that that would really be a better question for intone and and been Lanka's further. I would just say as a whole thing's roomy deteriorated that last week of the season that shortly after the season, you know, the NFL it's like anything else. It's the relationship between players and coaches, and the organization economics in contracts, all of those things are fluid and unfortunately at the end of the year, it broke up, and it was time after I said nine terrific ears in Tonia would be better off finding a new home and better for the sealers to move in a different direction, and we were able to work that out and hopefully everybody one here the sealers the Rangers enforce our climbing into Oni one more question about the vary. And do you think that it was hand? On the very end of the very end the week seventeen game the days leading up to it the right way by your client, or do you think that could have been handled maybe a little differently and still got into this result that you guys wanted? Inside the whole process in supporting Tonio one hundred percent. He wanted to play in that game. Unfortunately, the Steelers decided not to. And that was really that the beginning of this deterioration. I'm not going to characterize anything that the Steelers state whether they handled a bright wrong. I support my client one hundred ten percent from the beginning through the end. And listen, we're not looking backwards early conformance. We're excited about the future. Drew? I know you're excited about the future. A little note is far as moving forward last week to a lot of rumors of ours. Buffalo being involved in buffalo wanting to bring a to buffalo. Can you get a straight on that is the truth to this Pittsburgh Steelers and buffalo could not come to compensation agreement and it was not Antonio who? Vetoed going to the Buffalo Bills. What I came to you. That train was never close to happy in my opinion. I think cedar. In the bills were able to reach your breathing. There wasn't any any other care to Zeeshan besides that again guys ideal with the bills the Steelers the raiders Authoirty two teams. I have a positive relationship with offering those clubs and certainly not going to get into any details or make anybody look bad. I think a lot of all three of those sorts of decisions we've got clients at a lot of Michelle McCoy with the bills some bring players on the Steelers carry now, we've got we've got some terrific client inside of the raiders as well anxious through you've had a chance to talk to an Tonio. I'm sure over the past two days with all of this going on. What is he said how how excited is he about matching up with Jon Gruden and that offense out there in Oakland? Israeli elaine. Listen a dream team here. This is a great fit for an Tonio. We like everyone else think the world of Jon Gruden. He's one of the all-time great, and fell coaches in my estimation. Antonio we've got one of the top quarterbacks in the league for the Oakland Raiders, we've got raiders nation until you excited about playing in Oakland this year, going allots Vegas that's going to be thrilling Scituate should moving four. The rate of have great state, the silver and black. The raiders are one of the marquee franchises in recent NFL history, Madden and everything else. And all the hall of famers that they have great tradition all the championships. Alday miss just win baby. In a this is a this is a lime fate of grim fate. And we believe in Tony Lorraine. There's gonna be. Very successful moving folk drew, obviously without naming names. I'm curious if you have any other any clients that have reached out to you since this went down and look didn't said hold on AB three years left on his deal. No guaranteed money on his deal was unhappy where he was at. Now, he has a lot of guaranteed money. A new contract is happy where he's at. And he got it by simply saying, I won't out almost NBA style demanded trait. I'm not showing up trade me. Do you think this could be the start of something bigger four guys? It's very select list that have the type of reputation as far as on the field accomplishment as in Tonio Brown. Or is this an outlier? A black swan event that we won't see duplicate it. Hard to say entry case is different every player has different reasons from wanting to change teams or getting new contract. I think that if you're an agent and a player, and you have a similar situation is intelligence that you should definitely be aggressive and try to put yourself into a healthier situation. I certainly would encourage players and representatives to be aggressive the finding great fake the NFL is very tough business guys have alive life on man players. Get cut all the time with contracts players can sing deals one year and get released the next you'll see that every day this time of year. Why shouldn't a player if he's uncomfortable with this situation and has the ability on proven why not go and get? Of course, I think it should be more commonplace. Of course. I hope this becomes more common. Of course, I heard from central clients to emulate this and only time will tell if more people will follow him until new sleet. I drew. We thank you so much for joining us this morning all the best to Antonio as he moves forward over the course of the next couple of months, and it gets set to be Oakland rate of stress right up to this. Back to the show. Yachting seen you singer NBA writer, Vincent goodwill joins the show. I get excited. A little bit nervous when business shows. Thank you apologies. Apollo pro. Jimmy, Vince, we'll get to the warriors in a second. But I. Now that was funny. The past. Maybe it'd have court drives pass everyone for the two handed slam right there. Respond in that restricted air killing all these. But he can't shoot shooting on a book. Maybe nick. Leaking? I'll shoot you case it zero percent on. Let's argue about this. Actually, like, I can't shoot Hawley pushy eight it, they they stay on. Our highlight tapes Collins, bright young player and most nights, this would be the alleyoop of the night going up and getting it. But now Derek Jones junior played basketball night dunk of the Lear Vinnie. Didn't white Howard win a dunk this doing this. Yes. Yes. Like literally in a contest and he did this in the game. I don't even know if his fingertips touch, no don't touch the room on this was amazing athletic move here. The got some great athletes, man. Bam at a bios a hell of an athlete to that. He'd basket James Johnston. Yeah. I've insults. Move onto the Golden State Warriors not a great weekend for the best team in basketball. That's because they lost to the second worst team in basketball last night in the sons, in fact, warriors have lost six of their last ten games and they lost. Kevin Durant in the fourth quarter last night with an ankle injury. Durant was overheard in the tunnel. Yelling. We need to be playing championship basketball. However, Klay Thompson headed different take take a listen. Crowd to be little more into it too. Like, I know was not the playoffs. But he's our last go round oracle lease. You can stand up. If some we make good player, especially beginning. We need that energy species. Time of the year is hard to conjure up energy every single night because you're looking for the playoffs now run. So we expect a fans kind of you know, bring that from the jump. He can't. I mean, it's like still you can't bring it every night. But still it helps when it doesn't matter of playing the sons or the will the bugs whoever it is. We need that energy from them because we feed off that. Yes, they can bring in every night. They should bring in they paid to bring it every single night. How how surprising is this recent slump that the warriors have been on? How surprising is that? To you muscle prize. Get off I think Klay Thompson giving us a soundbite once every three years more surprising team sort of gone through. I think when you have a team that's on his run to go to what its fifth straight NBA final two large part of his basically, his core, minus Kevin Durant. And you're trying to win your third straight title. Go back and look at history when you look at the bulls and their championship runs. The third year was the toughest the Lakers in Shaq and Kobe are two thousand two they on fumes. I just think is hard to sustain his level of effort concentration in just interest. Like we're in the doldrums of the season. Now, usually you get a spark at different points that a year at some point. It was boogie cousins coming back at the beginning of the year was just guys coming back together. Now, they're looking at the calendar in the playoffs in five weeks. This is what we're gearing up for. And I think also. Guys, part of it. They have to liabilities. One is the markets cousins on defense and the other one is possibly Draymond green on offense because he can no longer shoot. And he's no longer being aggressive in terms of driving to the basket to set up other guys before you would see him drop to the basket on place and draw defense. Now, he doesn't even do that. He just waits around for the dribble. Handoff. And I think that's something that he's going to have to sort of adjust. They're going to have to adjust. Maybe not play boogie comes as much applause because their margin fairest thinner and teams are now catching up to the way that they play the point you made about dream on. I mean, that's how the game ended last night. I mean, they don't have to be three hunting on this play. There's twenty seconds left their down. Three step is doubled. The entire time up the court and look dream up. You're totally right. It's like, I got the volt. Let me give it right back to you. It's like the kid on offense on that play looked like the kitten high school that doesn't usually play and got the bolts, where's the best? Well, he was three at that point. They weren't good from three point land. And he shot an air ball one. Also. Right. So when you shoe air both from three point land, and they? Throw it to you in the critical situation. You're looking to hand off. I think your point about because we've seen players go in and out shooting, but Draymond used to be more athletic and drive to the bucket. And that's where I think his injury to his toe. He's got a serious toe injury. He's been battling all season. And that's what takes away some of that athleticism. That's what takes away him being a real triple threat that if he could pump fake and get into the lane he still could create because he's a great passer. So this team we can say, oh, you might be bored yet because the bulls that third repeat I think they lost to a timber wolves team during the regular season. We know other teams that tried to three peat. Yeah. There were awful losses during the regular season. But this team of the last five tnd is not the best team. So I think that that in itself that they would struggle bent, bench depth. They're not as strong Livingston. It's not playing will Iggy not playing as well. Draymond you talked about not shooting the ball as well. Think he's averaging seven points again drawn. Yes, he led them points game or teen. Ten and eight was their seventy three win season for Draymond seven seven and seven is this season for dream on. And the percentages are killers across the board and your point on the bench. See they have the second Louis going bench in basketball. Now, I would be a lot more concerned or legitimately concerned about the warriors Feinstein Friday night Friday night. It's like, oh, there's a big game team Jonah chasis. We're going to be in the first half win the game at halftime and coast home. But then on Sunday comes along, and they try to sleep walk against one of the two worst seems a basketball and they get beat. But I want to go back to your original point. You said about DeMarcus cousins would the warriors right now be better without DeMarcus cousins on the team. I don't know if they'd be better. They wouldn't be talented. I think they were is diverse because I play basketball if they had these off shooting nights Steph and Claire what seven twenty three you can at least diversify your offense enough to down to a guy and fell. Can you know what boogie get us a couple? Buckets spread the offense out in those scoring droughts won't be as prolonged my problem with Golden State is they don't feel threatened by anybody. They don't feel threatened by Houston. They can lose to Houston on fried on Wednesday night and not care. They whooped Denver every time. Someone says, oh, here's a statement game against Denver because they're the team. That's chasing. You the only team that they feel remotely sort of worried about is Oklahoma City. I've talked to players ongoing state. They don't feel Houston is as much of a threat when you beat a team on seven game on their home floor, the fear factor is gone, Oklahoma City bay respect them because they can defend and because you get to high level players in paw paw, Paul, George, George Russell Westbrook. But I don't even think they fear them. I just think they respect them more than any other team in the west the play of boogie and Draymond is that the kind of stuff that changes what they told me talk about the switch going on and off when the playoffs. Come. I mean, do you really think this team is going to suddenly get it together in the next five weeks dream on his shooting has gone down drastically since twenty sixteen taking no he's not he's not taking them. But I think his intensity rises if you look at the defense their teen defense is not wish should be scoring more than they weren't twenty sixteen. So before you could have third quarter rush when you could play eight tough minutes defense, put yourself about twenty in Costa rest of the way. Now, you're doing that. In teams are taking the twenty minutes left in the game. And they're coming back to fear factor fought for the warriors is not. There as much as it was before. And yet it can turn it on. But sometimes you switch now actresses coming on. And we right. I mean, and we've seen that for them in the loss a few days ago or last week where they hit the switch after being down the whole game took the lead in the third quarter. And then lost and the other team came back. Can't remember exactly what was his game before the Celtics game and lost. And they got blown out by Boston. I just the number. Chris keeps bringing up is the defense top five defense their first two championship seasons. Top three infants actually last year was the top eight fence this year fourteenth. This year's far as five-man lineups in the NBA all five men lineups across all rosters. The warriors. Starting five is the fifth worst fifth worst defensively since boogie came into the lineup. Like that is the question. The question is all right. If in the playoffs Iggy gets back to being dream on steps it up a bit. Will they be okay with boogie on the bench, and more importantly, we'll boogie day. Okay. Him being well, he's going to have to be they're going to go. To that death lineup. The original the original deaf lineup with Draymond at the five plan of back. And I think Draymond you can depend on my bringing him on defense than you can on any single other entity struggling with dome right now. I went to see a little bit later on in the show. Take a break coming up. We'll more players follow ABC's lead after he forced his way out of shit's Berg that is next. I. Player of the year candidate, Marcus Howard, defending champion Villanova and the rest of the big east ballot out for conference who Premacy the twenty nineteen biggies tournaments often Madison Square Garden March thirteenth through the sixteenth on FOX F S one. And the Fox Sports at two great event. We were there last year. Let's all go limp into the playoff. Let's go time for us to go viral yesterday, the Atlantic sun conference championships Scotty, James of liberty pulled off one of the worst flops of all time look at this. Give him an Oscar for this just watch it. This is how you can review targeting in college football. This should be review -able, and this players should be jetted for the rest of this game. And the first half of the next game. Just like the college football targeting junction, what an embarrassment. That is an all time flat university because they're Christian institution the whole university. Pray for that me as crucial institution. That's I mean, that's gotta be a sin. Right. Trying to mislead the official trying to gain an unfair vanity for. No, no, no need to count his sins on national TV. All right. He was faking as a lot of fakes out there. All right as lot of faking going on out fair liberty pray for them and liberty won the game. I believe and so they're going to be in the AA turn liberties highlights. Somebody being paid staff with liberty diver stores. Start your morning sponsored by Gillette, clear gel. Brandon ingram. Lonzo ball were shut down for the remainder of an already disappointing Laker season. Neither will be needed for the playoff run. The team will most likely not be making see what does this mean for the Lakers moving forward. Shoot me shoot. I mean, you extra time with the young players out there Ingram men. He was more impressive in what we saw this season face them at versity really improved his game. A good ball handler better shooter than we thought. So you like were his game is right now Lonzo we don't know what we have you said last week that the worst thing that could happen for the Lakers is LeBron suffering significant injury again going into the offseason the second worst thing might be this Brandon Ingram news where he is not going to be able to play in the rest of the year to build off of what had been the best six game stretch of his career averaging twenty eight a game. And. Where there's going to be question marks about his health when you are trying to potentially deal him this summer. He's being shut down with blood clots, essentially and his right arm. And so this is something hopefully, they caught it early. And he's okay. But this is a big deal for him. And for the team to the NFL now that former Steeler Antonio Brown is settled attention turns to former Steeler, lady and bell. Rumors flying about as free agency approaches and the raiders are considered to be a sleeper team for the running back. See see, what do you think of the raiders possibly signing LL as well? You'll Bill he's a great football player. We haven't talked about how good he is as a running back. I mean, he is a generational talent. Best all-round back that we have in the NFL running the ball out of the backfield. He's the best, but the raiders have more holes than that's one reason. Why I don't want him on the raiders, man. They need to pass Russia. Oh, Khalil Mack. He's not there anymore. They didn't play making safety. They need offense of lying help. So I don't have a problem with him in ABM back together. My problem is they have. Shoes. Gaping holes on football team running back of his caliber tends to be a luxury in today's NFL in the raiders are team where they don't have so much cap space that they can afford that type of luxury before they addressed the other major issues on their team. We know that often ABM Antonio Brown can be a dynamic dominant one. But I think there are other teams where he's a better fit. I speaking of aby the Steelers sending their very disgruntled star wide receiver at west to the raiders and return, they'll get a third and fifth round pick and they're hoping a much quieter calmer locker room Brown. God is money. The raiders gave him a new contract. Thirty million guaranteed up to fifty four million dollars. Nick today. Be provide a blueprint now for players moving forward. I'm not happy. I want out at work. This is what I think I think there are very few players that check all the boxes AB did which is the level of production. The consistency of production though, the clear steel will to at least wheth-. He was bluffing or not just say, maybe I'll just retire. Like, you've gotta have already made a lot of money. So if the team calls your bluff, you it's a credible bluff all those things. But he's not the only player in the league that checks those boxes, and we live in a world where ten months ago, the power dynamic in the NFL was this such that Aaron Rodgers couldn't even keep the quarterback coach you wanted and ten months later in Tonio Brown. No-shows no calls week seventeen AXA fool in the media submarines his team's trade value or his trade value for his preceding team and gets exactly what he wants. And he the team that gets him has minimal compensation. They can give him a new contract. He goes where he wants. So I don't think there's a long list of players that could exert this type of pressure, but he's not one of one. And so I'm curious whether or not there might be other guys that look at this and say, all right? Well, we hear the NFL so often preach about the teams preach about the how awful distractions could be well, let's that's essentially what. In Tokyo Brown. Right. They thought he would be a distraction if they brought him back. He was under contract. They could have done what Chris said earlier to a third and fifth and we're good. We'll bring him back in they didn't. And so I don't think it's the NFL all of a sudden overnight switches to the NBA monta, we're players have total control. But this is more power than we've seen a player be able to exert quite some time. And I don't think he'll be the only person that tries this route whether or not it's successful or not. We'll see. Of course, our fans watched the show won't won't be surprised by this. But Nick Knight own total different spectrums. I don't believe this will happen again for a number of reasons for one organization wise, we've never seen it you. You said earlier we've never seen a team take a twenty million dollar twenty one million dollar cap it. Oh, so someone's going to do that again. So no, I don't think so what about a third and a fifth round pick for the best wide receiver in the game. Is someone gonna do that? No, probably not. So the combination of the rare. To not only what he did the leverage he had, but an organization willing to take that because that's Pittsburgh decided that, you know, something we much rather not having here. So we're going to take the cap it and we're going to sell him at less than market value. So that's the reason why I don't list has nothing to do with the overall leverage collective bargaining agreement. And all that there's too many things that happen perfectly for this to Bill to pull off. And I just don't believe that you'll build a have all those things happen. The way they did hear the question. I would have though is that even most players wouldn't have traded or twenty one million dollar dead money hit like his contract was restructured, oddly, and most you would think most guys that don't necessarily have some of the erotic behavior of Antonio Brown of his caliber would get more than a third and fifth. So I'm not saying the model of the team takes a huge cap hit and gets no trade compensation. I'm simply saying if a player that has a reasonable contract that would fetch maybe a first round. Picture says I don't want to play here anymore. We see that happen because we see it happen often. In other sports almost never in the NFL in Tonio got traded despite the cap it stuff despite the erotic behavior. So a guy that maybe has a cleaner rap sheet in rap sheets wrong word, but cleaner record if you will and doesn't have a contract structured that way. He would be more attractive, and I think more likely candidate Antonio, Pittsburgh would have gone to him offered him the saying deal he would've stayed in Pittsburgh. So he's trying I know so thing was all nine. No. So I told you from the beginning when eight minutes is all about money because watch Antonio's interviews earlier in his career about been all Madam so lucky to be here with the hall of fame quarterback. I'm so lucky to have a franchise around me Pittsburgh Steelers. Then all of a sudden when they started caring about him being late any new he didn't have any other guarantees and he's not the highest pay receiver anymore. That's all this was about. That's why you had to go out a Pittsburgh. So we can get new money. Thing given given that they only got third and fifth form. Do you think they should have done that? Do you think when they met when he met with art art, Rooney met with him and drew Rosenhaus as we just heard about that? They should have offered him a contract similar to this. I wouldn't give an extension either. You would have to play football. You're gonna play football for the Pittsburgh Steelers. If not you can go down dang on waterslide. I've seen in the back of your house at some point you got to put your foot down, and he's got three younger kids can go to thirty million in a hurry in south Florida. All right. So I would put my foot down. I would've called his bluff on all right September roll around. I'm not taking that cap hit giving away. One of my best players for third and a five. No, sir. You not getting ready to run me like that. I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. I would've put my foot down specially after the ill Bill no-one. I was getting ready to lose L Bill base to things they could coexist. But they not getting ready to happen. Simultaneous to me if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's what I would have done. He still be with the Pittsburgh Steelers today. Steelers lost two of their best players in one off season coming up. How is LeBron coming up short? When compared to m j in covy that's next on first things. First. One is your destination for the day's best sports shows tune in for the biggest personalities on the biggest stories we get started right here with first things. First started you started Nick Monday through Friday only on. One every day. Welcome back to first things fro three and a half two and a half days a week. That's what I always say. Worked five show up three and a half. Vince good with us. We're going viral on Saturday. The Knicks suffered a loss to the kings. The Knicks are gonna miss the playoffs for the sixth straight season. Now a fan had some choice words for owner James Dolan. Take a listen, courtesy of teams sports. Wanna not anymore games? That's ruined. Opinion. And, you know, join watching them on TV. What? Cabin. Kevin all cabin. They hold him for Kevin. They tried to detain that guy and Bannon for life from MSG they did. And then he pulled his he tried to Detroit to apply for tickets next year tried to get tickets for the season, and they come on James Dolan. That's not a that's not an irreverent heckle. Like if you're an alien curse. Adam he didn't Jacob personal request sell the team at twenty s when Mentana throughout Charles Oakley, who's a Knicks legend Vale do that to Joe fan without a problem. And if I owned the Knicks, and I happen to come you. Keep your comments into I get past you and everything. All right. Like if you wanna keep doing this. I do happen to own the team the building in everything I do for the fan coming out for a matinee. Committed to the pet our producer peppers Knicks fan brings up an interesting point if the next time they show James Dolan on the Jumbotron if the whole whole arena starts Channing sell the team. Are they going to be playing stands up? Kick them all out there playing just in front of me today is gonna take James Dolan. The stay off TV the next I conference you're going to be doing. Kyw -gree Keynesian dry come into the garden and people going to be coming to get to the guard are coming in jobs now teams terrible. And they they sell out. That's why they can tell being the lions fan. Onto the Lakers. Now among the many things they have lost. Well, Saturday's game for one that's their fifth straight loss. Lawns owning groom for to both shut down for the year, and perhaps some of LeBron's of instability. According to an anonymous Western Conference executive LeBron his quote, throwing people under the bus every chance. He gets fact another executive chimed in said now, it's all about deferring and putting blame on somebody else instead of being like an old school guy and say I've got to do a better job. I've got to make my teammates better, great players and great leaders. That's what they do. That's what Koby would have done. That's what Michael Jordan would have done. All right, Vince, what was your reaction when you read this all we tutto point where we're defying Kobe Bryant now. Hollow bribe but out of the game Whitsett appoint we forgotten that we've seen Kobe by play and we've seen Kobe binds act. I'm trying to figure that I forget, that's why we have to we have to make sure that we bring it back up because how history really played out in people's mind. It's a lot different vision is history on Kobe crazy as players of all time, but less sort of like leave it there and not make him out to be the greatest teammate of all time. Let's keep it there for LeBron. I do think there's part of some frustration there. He's gonna miss the playoffs for the first time since his second union, and I think and he's been hurt. And I think I think this, and I think this is very much underplayed in this. He's been hurt in a way to he has not been able to come back and recover and exert the same amount of affect on winning that he has any other point is not just the injury. But being able to come back and play like the last time. He was seriously hurt. He was in Cleveland that first year back he missed eight games at the back injury. He came back and was gangbusters. They won twelve in a row and. Cruised all the way to the NBA finals he missed all that time and came back, although the numbers look like it. He didn't look like the same play. What? Shortly after he came back around the also what he was going to do activate activate playoff mode. And what happened he went to the gas and nothing but air came out. You start your car in high school them card, Nick, that's a different story and everything. Yeah. That's what he looked like those sorts five games coming back. And it was to your point that the numbers are there and his plus minds. They're the effect that he was mostly only offense of in the same guy. It was before the injury. But this time of year he goes to a different level sometimes earlier than other times, but he's always been able to hit it anyone able to hate it. But this thing at this point there hasn't there are a lot of people around the league that do not like liberal do not like the way LeBron James the power structure, do not like the way LeBron conducts business there are a lot of and there I'm in a lot of real room to criticize them less seven and a half years. And now there's a ton and instead of just focusing on what I think is totally fair criticism the his involvement in the recruitment of Anthony Davis. How that hurt the team his involvement is was reported more the last few weeks in his selection of the players on the team that spare his lack of I think the one part there. That's little fair is the lack of accountability of I need to play better. E- even if that's not true like just to take leadership. But this other stuff of here's what Koby would've done with these guys would would've been sending a parking lot demanding they trade him. I watched and do that to Andrew bynum. I want some kill smush Parker like so we know that part of it. And the other part of it is the Lakers problem this year is multifaceted. But the biggest one has been the injuries. And it is mean they're still coming with Ingram done for the year with the concerning. The the blood clot in his shoulder. It serious Lonzo being shut down for the. They've got a lot of issues. The idea that LeBron was enough of a raw guy is near the bottom of the list in my it's been a horrible year. It will be known as the law sheer. And if they don't wanna championship with LeBron being with the Lakers it will start with this right here. How the first Russia was put together Hellabrunn got injured in the first year. Is he still the best player in the world? I don't think so because he's not going to be in the playoffs. Can't be. If you're not in the playoffs. Can't be the best player in the world. And. Lebron James, and you decide to infringe because he didn't look at any other teams. He decided he was going to the Lakers longtime ago. So when you decide to do that in your first year doesn't go. Well, he's going to get a lot of the blame. You know, the reason why how much faith do we have in? Magic johnson. Rob Pelinka not a whole bunch everyone else on the rosters. Either. Young are an an old veteran just trying to hang on. So LeBron James is right there for the picking to build to get the blame. Because if they would've won he would have gotten the credit. I'll say this the turning point this season actually happened. I believe in New York Brooklyn, rather they were here they were eighteen and thirteen in the locker room before the game. Lebron taught the David minimum of ESPN said I love to play with Anthony Davis that game. Not a player. Didn't know anything about those comedy sorta Whitmer day, we will all the locker room just messing them out. He said at the story went up around halftime. They lost a game in the locker room. It was a morgue like the players were glued to their phones. It was. Super quiet, LA contrary to what people believe losing one game is losing one of eighty two people don't care that much in December. But those the spirit of that team drastically changed the week later. It was Christmas. Lebron got hurt and everything else went down from there. But that night I was able to see the spirit of that team. The MO the momentum that they built those young guys felt like, oh, he's no longer with us because his greatest Anthony Davis is if they want him they cost me exactly so much of the seasons based on what's going to happen in free agency. How much do you think of how far this Laker team has dropped is going to affect who? They can bring in. I think look if koala didn't wanna come to the Lakers them, not making a playoff this year isn't gonna make heads tails on whether he wants to do that or not because they're still the Lakers if you wanna play with LeBron James if you wanna play with him, then this year is not gonna make a big difference because he has a body of work. And actually this year may help you because you can see okay. He's no longer the best player in the game by such a why margin he knows? That he's going to need superstar help he's going to allow me to be more a been a role player like he turned Kevin to a role play return Chris Bosh until role player. He doesn't have that room. Because he's no longer the greatest by such a wide margin. That's the point Broussard made that you could make a case that if he brings in another superstar signs in free agency, they are more position to get actual credit than Wade got than Kyrie got. But the other thing that happened this weekend is we alluded to earlier this Brandon Ingram blood clots situation. What do you think that does forget the free agency part of it for a moment to the trade market to his ability to be the key piece in Anthony Davis trade because he was playing the best basketball of his career after the all star? He was playing such great basketball byles a wide margin compared to what he had done before. Now, you're starting to question. Do you believe in it, not just believe in the basketball? But that you believe in the health in his body, and where it's going to go because blood clots, I don't think they cost lives, they careers quiz, Bosch and some other. Guys, another sports like this is such a serious thing that even if you're negotiating with the Lakers. Are you negotiating the negotiating faith, literally giving you oughta medicals and everything else that you can say, okay? You know, what if I'm New Orleans? I'll take Brandon Ingram knowing this problem. Hell Brandon England, you wanna go New Orleans with the injuries that those guys have had and some of the problems that players had that medical medical Russia. Tissue seriously. So I think it's a problem for Brandon Ingram. It's a problem for the Lakers. This is the worst. Yeah. He assuming that even if he gets a clean Bill of health because Chris Bosh got the clean Bill of health. The second time came back and played. And then they always recurring. You don't wanna trade for a guy that had on worried about away from the doctors maybe saying you can't play anymore can't fly. Like that is eighty boss. You're totally right. He came back. Forget he came back. And now his was more serious. And I understand was called later. I get all that. But he came back, and then he got another one and he wanted to play he doesn't else's retirement. A couple of weeks ago. He really wanted to keep playing no will clear him to play cricket. All right. Then thanks so much for joining us. Aby trae trouble. Derek carr. That's next person. Player of the year candidate, Marcus Howard, Betty champion Villanova and the rest of the big east battle it out for conference supremacy to twenty nineteen Figgis tournament tipping off at Madison Square Garden, March thirteenth through the sixteenth on FOX F one and on the fuck sports app. Back with Brian Westbrook continuing with the Antonio Brown story quick recap. Now new team the Oakland Raiders new quarterback. Derek Carr and new head coach Jon Gruden car seems excited to join forces with Brown tweeting brother, let's get to work. Here's how Gruden described into Neo Brown before facing him last season. Told all receivers if you get a chance to watch him practice you'll see what unlocks greatness. And now, he's the hardest working man. I think in football hardest working player I've ever seen practice. And I've seen Jerry Rice. I've seen a lot of good ones. But I put Antonio Brown at the top. And if there's any unwired outs out there watching practice, and you figure out yourself lice. That's good player. Nobody argues with that everyone can agree that he's argue with that Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice, work, just as hard and show up on time that okay that was my point. So I was going to say the hardworking part is stopped at Gruden. How could it fit is is in Tonio Brown in Oakland? But given the quarterback the offense and the head coach is going to be matching him some issues. Authencity quarterback has to be elite. Derek Carr hasn't been elite his entire career. They need a running back. They need a running game to solidify the office. They don't have that office. Lying has struggled. Gabe, fifty two sacks last year. That's a problem right there. They have to figure out where they're going to do with jerk cook, he's a free agent. So so there's that at Antonio Brown all of that equation. He helps their car he'll help her running attack who also find a way to get the football. So you're talking about chemistry. He's going to get the targets Jon Gruden wilt roam the football. So I think he's a good fit you at fifteen touchdowns to any team. It's a good fit that team needs an awful lot of different things. Offense to be a good football team offense ity he can't fix all those different things that they need Novi Kim Jong groomsmen coach in NFL twelve years. And I just think it's important that people understand what he has been and what he. Hadn't been all right because and Tonio six straight years one hundred and at least twelve hundred yards receiving so is Jon Gruden will. He do with that. I don't know Jon Gruden is never had a hundred reception receiver in a twelve hundred yard season together. He's only had two wide receivers that have reached twelve hundred yards. Also offense is in twelve years in the league passing offense in the top ten. He's only done it twice as far as the top ten offense of twelve years. He's only been there four times. So Jon Gruden in big time offenses, we just giving them this credit and everything, but they're not true. So now with AB what's he going to do AB is used to being targeted a maximum amount. He's used to get into football and scoring touchdowns. So he's going to have to be very very creative. This is a team that has a number of holes to the one thing that I like coming out of it was they had Derek Carr in. In the recruitment of Antonio. So to me that tells me that they have given him the confidence that they're going to move forward with him as a quarterback. And I do believe that that continuity being in gruden's offense will help the quarterback. And of course, AB, and we'll help you haven't been one hundred percent sold on Derek Carr. No, I don't think Gruden was either. I think Gruden is will say one thing about Derek Carr. Then got their Saul who he actually was on the field and said what let me pump the brakes on this. This is the best quarterback. We've ever I've ever out of retirement for him. And then he got there, and he and the team down he started trading pieces, which only the only way the moves they made last year make sense is if you look in the spectrum of oh he thinks they don't have their quarterback. He thinks they're gonna have to draft a quarterback. He's looking at twenty Jeff. Yeah. Let's clear the books collect draft picks clear up our cap all that. But I also think he understands that they might not get Kyle Moore. Even if he wants him this year because the team drafting number one might want them. Maybe they don't like Askins. Maybe they don't know if you'll be there. There for he knows it's more likely than not that Derek Carr is going to be the quarterback for at least one more season. So there is an element of the Dak Prescott Amari Cooper situation where what was one of the reasons the Cowboys paid a premium for Amari Cooper because they had to find out about deck. They had to give back a fair opportunity what he could do with the number one receiver. And so now they're at car if this might be his last audition year, you can't send them out there with the wide receivers. They had they had a tough wide receiving corps with Amari Cooper. Once you get rid of Amari Cooper. They were one of the most bereft of talent wide receiving corps in the entire league. Now, you get the guy at the top of the league. So even I think all I think the narrative around Gruden and his era his time as a head coach was greatly inflated and pointed out those numbers, but that is independent of this fact, you you got in Tokyo Brown for the sixty six one hundred and forty first pick in the draft that is a huge win. If you wanna look at it as one big transaction you traded Amari Cooper and a third and fifth for. Antonio Brown and a first and when you look at what those two guys are as players. I think is a good player, but you can look at MAURICE best individuals to typical production. That's not even one season. That's best most receptions, one your most yards all that compared to the average season from Antonio Brown. And you realize that one players a very good player. The other player is a great player, and they got more in return for the first then they had to give up for the second. That's a win. No matter who your coach Antonio Brown. Obviously a hall of fame type of player. This is what Oakland Raiders have they have some draft picks for draft picks early on in the draft. That's going to be the maker breaker for this job Gruden coast football team. What can they do at these draft picks can they solidify that office a lot can they find someone else to be a running back in free agency? And then they have to fill in those other homes that they have there's plenty of like emission, Mitzi. Jon Gruden has keep this thing together. He coached Keyshawn Johnson. He found a way to make things work Joey Galloway down there and Tampa. He can go some good talent. He. He just has to make it work with Antonio point on the draft comes Asian just quickly should also include in twenty twenty an extra first pick. So if with Antonio Brown if they spend their draft picks, they don't drop to quarterback this year and Derek Carr. Still doesn't take the step people wanting to first round draft picks the next to draft. Right. And so you can use it in two years to get your quarterback. Then ran is coming out of a situation where he got into anything with head coach, you basically one he got kind of got what he wanted if he wanted to show up late if he wanted to show up to whatever he seemingly wanted Mike Tomlin sort of let him have it. It's not going to be that way in Oakland. Is there a conversation that asked me had between Jon Gruden Antonio Brown or? Dynamic of that release divulge to think that Jon Gruden is some disciplinarian and Mike Tomlin is not like for one in in. Pittsburgh. Antonio didn't get everything he won. He did get some superstar treatment, but he wouldn't get more than Ben Rothlisberger was getting all the stories that have come out. So Mike Tomlin has a way of doing things. I mean grooten is not the type of disciplinary. I know from an image standpoint he likes to. But there's always been some stuff going on with gruden's team into me how does he deal with this superstar how does he manage him? And how does it get when this bad? What were they going to do because they're gonna have some blow ups on the sideline? And the reason why you have blow ups miscommunication. And what you told me during the week is not playing out. And also a guy used to Winnie guys do not want to lose. And so you're going to see his face in the camera with Gruden, and I don't know how he's going to be a resolve it because the guy's got guaranteed money. And when he didn't have guaranteed money. He wasn't showing up. Now, he's got guaranteed money. I don't know what is behavior is going to be you hope that he's a different type of player John Gruden bringing them in. Now, you have to be the leader. You didn't have to be the leader in Pittsburgh have been he wanted to be the Lear that was the company that was a guy that the team wanted to be the leader. Now you here in Oakland. You have to be the leader. Derek carr. The quarterback hasn't been that guy because of his play on the field. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. Remember, leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on f s one Monday through Friday, six thirty AM Easter for Chris Carter, Nick Reich. 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First Things First Weekly Rewind 3/11 - 3/15

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First Things First Weekly Rewind 3/11 - 3/15

"A welcome differs things. I it is Monday. I am general. He is the hall of fame. Chris Carter that is Nick rights. We have a big Monday show for you today. Talking Lakers is LeBron pros teammates under the bus because there's an executive who certainly is an anonymous. Non of one the narrow down by the end of the show. Figuring out who it is lime. Money's on Jeanie, Buss, speaking of teens out west the warriors continued to slide, but at we have to start with what happens when Brown becomes black and silver. Antonio Brown is now in Oakland raider, it was this weekend's big NFL news the Steeler, sending their very disgruntled star wide receiver out west to the raiders in return. They received a third and a fifth round pick and they're hoping much quieter calmer locker room Brown, certainly got his money. The raiders gave him a new contract. Thirty million guaranteed and up to fifty four million dollars. Are I Chris Carter? I start with you turns out there were few teams interested in Brown. But Oakland made the final deal. What was your reaction to all of this will Oakland tremendous winter and magic that this has been John Gruden in his first year. Imagine what the after coming out of the TV. Booth tremendous expectations ten year guarantee contract, reportedly, but we went through a year, but we saw him give up good young players and trade them Khalil Mack. Trading him before the before the season to the bears Amari Cooper during the season. Trading him to the Dallas Cowboys. And then now you're going to go out. And I liked the fact that might make was involved in this. And I believe that might may out. We'll be able to help their front office because for a third round pick and fifth round pick. I didn't think it was going to get a number one. Because I knew there was too much baggage out there and some other things out there about Abe that other teams aren't going to want. I knew from the beginning he wanted to new contract. So that also that hurts his ability to build to get a number fetch a number one pick because if you give them more compensation and draft they give you less cash if you give them less compensation draft picks, then the team is more apt to give you more money and this work. Out for the for the Oakland Raiders tremendous trade for them. Get an elite player playing in the prime of his career with an offense and offense of minded coach that was under a great deal of criticism of as if he had forgotten football when he had gone to the TV Buso, the raiders have to be very very happy about this trait. Pittsburgh Steelers, they lose up and down the board front office. They lose the ownership. They lose and the coaching staff loses in one day. They're gonna fire Mike Tomlin. And it's going to be this this trait right here. And what happened this year with a b it will continually be brought up and discuss because Mike Tomlin lost control of the Pittsburgh Steelers now because he's gone Willie build a gang control. But it's fairly obvious that he did lose control of the Pittsburgh on the writer side of things say when you say what if this was a year ago? What if this was John gruden's initial move last year before the season, they traded a? Third and fifth four Martavis Bryant and AJ McCarron. They said they got the name wrong. They sent the holiday. Martavis Bryant they were with the think about that. Martavis Bryant AJ McCarron same compensation. Now got you 'Antonio Brown. This is there is no no matter how critical of Gruden in the raiders you've been and we've been very critical on this show. This is of course, a win. They get arguably the best receiver in football. They get him to a place. He wanted to go to which matters only because of his attitude, we know who's going to work hard. No matter what. But how much of a quote distraction unquote will be and for the raiders there is an element of the Dak Prescott Amari Cooper trade to this in my eyes. Which is if they don't get Cuyler. And if they don't get Haskins in this year's draft. They will be going with their car and Gruden will need to determine if he wants to continue forward with their car after this year, if they don't use one of those first round picks on a quarterback keep in mind in twenty twenty. They still have an extra. Pick in that year's draft because the Khalil Mack trade. So the raiders could potentially be in the quarterback business year from now. But now they'll have fair information on core because you weren't going to get fair information on car with the wide receiving core. You had beforehand and the other part of it is Mike Mayock. And I'm glad you brought them up because I had real questions about I know his ability to valuate players because I watched him do it for a decade. Plus, but there's a whole 'nother part of being a general manager and being a front office guy, which is one is the player evaluation. The others the player transaction the player contract trade compensation and for the raiders to not be pushed into listen. You got a first rounder firm. Laurie Cooper we want that first round for Antonio Brown. That's clearly the raiders held their ground. They said, oh, you got a Friday deadline. Okay. We'll let that deadline pass. And once that deadline passed the raiders, I think realized the Steelers are up against it. They don't want that bonus to come do. And they were able to. Get in Tonio Brown for the minimal possible compensation. You could get a player of this caliber for that doesn't have that isn't facing some trial this offseason that could be facing a year long suspension. They got him for thirty five cents on the dollar. It's a huge win for them. See you brought up Mike Tomlin, which is interesting, and what didn't work between Tomlin and aby. Now. Antonio Brown is going to have a very different coach very different personality with probably a different stronghold on that Oakland Raiders team. How do you think those two are gonna mash? I don't have any clue I mean, Jon Gruden hasn't really had a lot of high profile players you'll go back to days in Oakland when the Jerry Rice in Tim Brown when Jerry came over from San Francisco and play with them. They had the outstanding season. Rich Gannon in VP of the league. They put up tremendous numbers as a group. And I don't know what kind of offense are gonna run. I don't know if they're going to be three receivers. I don't know if the offense of lying can hold up. I know how Antonio how he thrives. He drives a three receiver off. He has to build a play all up and down the lineup. You have to build to build a high him. He's also you got to run some routes where him he just gets the ball. And he's able to get yards after the kit. So to me, I know what AB does what is Gruden going to do don't know that their best receiver right now happens to be there tied in are. They going to lose him in free agency. How much more football does. Jordy Nelson have left 'em. So I don't know what system John is going to know how AB thrives and how he's become the best receiver and enough. Oh, that's the football part of it. And then the personalities part of it is I watch Jon Gruden win a Super Bowl with Keyshawn Johnson. And that hot Super Bowl hangover honeymoon lasted all of nine games the following season before Keyshawn got sent home deactivated vinyl seven games of the season. I would say he won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay. And keep schon was on the row. I want. Correct. I totally agree with that. I wasn't a attributing key show on as the main factor. Buy and that's that was a defense dominated team. But that was a Tampa Bay team that prior. Gruden getting there had given up to number four Keyshawn his first year there. They win a Super Bowl all collectively Derrick Brooks, Warren, sapphire, Lynch, all those guys. And then by the midway point in next season. Go home, we'll keep paying you. We'd rather you be anywhere. But here Gruden doesn't have a long history that I'm aware of of gelling with big time personalities, particularly along leash. Rex particularly on the offense of side of the ball. Like, those Tampa teams had some big time personalities on defense, but Gruden didn't seem to be meddling with that nearly as much so, but that was also eighteen years ago fifteen years ago, so how much has he evolved. How much he changed that first year in Oakland? He seemed to push a lot of the big time personalities out the door. Was that a humbling moment for form or was this as simple as even if it's not with his philosophy. Wait, we can get this player for that. How could we possibly say no special when they had the cap space to give Antonio contr. One for us to there's not going to be some dust up. They're going to be some dust. I going to be some problems. I don't have some issues on the sideline. How they go forward to me is how how does Gruden handle an elite player who draws a lot of attention. And how does AB handle the transition from what he was doing in Pittsburgh where he was frequently late March into his own be doing things that no-one on on the staff knew what he was going to do within the offense doing some freelancing and getting away with it for a number years. Who is he going to be when he shows up to Oakland Raiders because typically when you see someone who has that type of personality when they change typically there's a change in attitude will he get back to being known as the hardest working guy for the raiders because that's what we is also, but which shows up that's that's going to be the question that he's going to have to answer this during this football season of the trade deadline the Houston Texans traded a fourth. A seventh for Damaris Thomas the right before last season. Jarvis Landry was traded for a fourth and seventh for in. Tony Brown to be available for third and fifth and for him to be available for a team. It's not like buffalo was trading third and fifth where you're like, okay. We're getting him. But how what version are we getting this is one of his preferred destinations he got his money. He's going to the they are looking for a face of the Oakland Raiders for the move to Vegas. He now is I would say head to head with their cars, the only two realistic options for that along with Gruden Cesena. Huge win for Oakland for the Steelers to double back on sees point from earlier are they going to look back on wait. How did the big the three Bs era end with lady on bell sitting out a year with the Tonio skipping the final week? And then it was trading him for thirty five cents on the dollar. That's how I didn't win the championship. I said for the last couple of years, I didn't think collectively all the things they had going on off the field. The selfishness. And the the me look at me that they have there on that team. I didn't think so I thought it will definitely be they underperformed. And there was this narrative that well the Steelers just do things differently. That's their family. Will it turns out doing things differently? Lease for them. Did not work out is very public divorce has finally come to them between Tony Brown. 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Never missed that many games. He's never had to be a leader and it failed. He's never tried to get someone to come to that magnitude and degree in that publicized and that didn't work. So maybe maybe this has taken toll maybe not to the degree of what another executive says. But isn't it on the board that things are crumbling and fallen apart behind the scenes sure, this has been I don't know about Crumlin falling behind the scenes, but the problem to the Lakers right now is there's they don't have enough. Good players people watch the game on Saturday night. Lebron played twenty eight minutes because they're doing this minutes restriction and those twenty eight minutes. In addition going thirty ten and twelve the Lakers outscored Boston by eleven points in the twenty minutes. He did not play. They got outscored by twenty four points such is life win who's out when Ingram's out when lonzo's out when Ingram we'll talk about it more. But when Ingram and Lonzo are going to be out for the remainder of the season. Like, you just don't have enough high level or even mediocre NBA players to compete, even if LeBron. Is playing well and owning anyone would criticize his level of play on Saturday night or in particular level of play on the offense of end since he came back from the injury. Well since it came back from the injury. I mean, the first few games were very very sluggish. He's definitely not playing as playing weight Saturday night against the Celtics. He did look better. And I'm the one that said that LeBron needs to sit down I believe also lebrons plane not only playing for pride because he wants to build a show because he looked a lot more energetic because seasons over with like this season is lost. Like, you are right. Don't want to blame on the brunt. But this Laker season has fallen apart, and you can go from ownership to the front office to the coaching staff and. Yeah. And LeBron James in that. Because when you sign of Ron at this stage, we don't expect him to give hurt. All everyone get hurt. We'll he's LeBron James not supposed to get hurt. So that was a huge part to these young players in that Anthony Davis thing that helped the season fall apart, and it's toll tally veteran players young players in LeBron middling yet me and AD talked about this summer did not help high time now for put a great on its by carmax. Joel Embiid had a strong return from his knee injury. Put thirty three and twelve in a Sixers win over the Pacers. Both the Sixers and Pacers now tied for that third spot in the Eastern Conference Nick put a great enjoy on beads day yesterday. I give Joel and a first game back the defense in the second half. And he's the key of that was the story of this game. The patriots scored thirty second half points. That's remarkable by Philly and a very important game. Because that three seat out east is critical to avoid that first round four five matchup. So I give Joe Elena. Oh, he was excellent. I like the fact that they're gonna play in four or five minute stints. You could see it took some time to get his win. But men twenty seven men to twenty eight minutes thirty three points right there. That's getting the most of it to superstar. I believe he's got the Christmas. He's he's on the board for the next face NBA. So he gives so international player to ever do more American and international because the college not college because how how goes about. He's a very America. Okay. Take time to start worrying about the warriors. That's next on first things. First american. Dan, no might trying to slam into. In five days to the best pound for pound fighters on the planet. Put their perfect records on the line at AT and T stadium is aerospace junior takes on Mickey Garcia for the world welterweight championship. Sunday, nine pm eastern, six Pacific live on paper view border now. Not right. This second. But after the show would be a better time time for us to go viral. The biggest story the weekend was Antonio Brown getting traded to Oakland. Here's what be son auto thought about him being traded. An auto you ready? You ready? You ready to go? What we going? Going to Oakland Raiders. Ready? So the sun auto did not get the dad's gift of gab, really cute kid and we've seen some videos of him playing football. And absolutely. He's cute kid. Yeah. AB could take maybe some PR lessons from the young Otto. Smile. Don't say quite as much people say nice things about you as more. He's knows cutest kid. No. Well, obviously, it's not as cute as the kid. Got a good smile though. I time for stores to start your morning sponsored by Gillette, clear gel. Now, the former Steeler Antonio Brown is settled attention turns to former Steeler lady mbelle. Rumors are flying about is free agency approaches. Derek Carr started following on Twitter after the raiders traded for a be Nikki bell could sign in. Oakland's. I'd say it's a possibility I wouldn't think it's likely and even if John Gruden embraces the idea of bringing the 'Antonio Brown for that rock bottom compensation trying to all of a sudden bring in Steelers west without as high level of a quarterback to me would be a bad idea. I think these are two great players. But I don't know if you want to after you usher out to your most high character guys in a locker room and clue McNamara Cooper one offseason. Bring in the real quick. Mark of AB and a guy in Levy on bell. Why don't know if it's a character question, Mark? But maybe decision regards to the drug policy question, Mark. I I wouldn't bring 'em both in. Yeah. I don't have a problem with him plan for the raiders. But they just have more priorities. They need a rush. Remember Khalil, Matt. And that big gap that he left and the defense. It's still there. They still need a playmaker safety. So bay still have a number of problems offense of lying so running back potentially a quarterback. It's one of many needs. But I wouldn't have a problem with them playing together. It's just not the best fit to the Cowboys. Now veteran linebacker Sean Lee will be back in Dallas for the twenty nine thousand nine season that after agreeing to terms on a one year three and a half million dollar restructured deal to stay with the Cowboys. The injury prone Lee will turn thirty three this summer. Say was this a good move? Will. It was a good move for him for Dallas. I believe what they're two linebackers that they have bolted them Pro Bowl level players. It's nice to have a veteran who can play one. One two three spots in case. There's an injury. But will he be injured? I believe in playing less snaps. It should be able to help him out. And he should be great special teams player. So for three million dollars. It's goodbye. We knew that Sean Lee was not gonna be on the Cowboys at seven million dollars, which is one his cap hidden salary for his price was going to be before the restructure. We thought it was at least I thought it was on the board. He would be cut in tirelessly. I think this is probably the best of both worlds. We know. Jalen Smith was excellent last year. See if he continues that form in late and van rash was amazing as a rookie CV continues that form and Sean Lee as a leader. And as a veteran and someone in that meeting room that's worth the money. Jason Witten went on the offense one on the defensive side to give them more leadership to the NBA now. Sixers and Pacers duked it out yesterday. Sixers dominated thanks to Joel Embiid. He returned to action after missing eight games at thirty two points, twelve assists. The Sixers move into a tie now with Indiana for the third best record in the east. Snick how dangerous Philly when beat is playing. Like this. Embiid was excellent. The defense was suffocating the second half Indiana scored thirty points and bead with the thirty three points, twelve rebounds was a great return for him and see very important in the standings Celtics Pacers. Sixers two of them are going to be in the four five line. So the right now the Sixers got up to the three line tied with the tiebreaker over Indiana enormous game for them because they don't want to be playing in that first round four. There's a number of things that make Philly a tough match-up. They lead the NBA attendance. They over twenty thousand only in big team has over twenty thousand also their ability for Joel Embiid to get you in trouble. And they got four starters that shoot over eighty percent from the free throw line everyone, of course, been SIMS. Yeah. Been too big now, just huge more bad news to go with the existing bad news that there has been the regular season. Both Brandon Ingram Lonzo ball were shut down for the remainder and already disappointing year. Neither will be needed for the playoff run. The team will most likely not be making Nick what does this mean for the Lakers? Now moving forward Ingram thing is a real big problem. And it's a scary injury. And I understand listened to deep vein thrombosis. It's blood clot. And it's a blood clot in his arm and shoulder area as opposed to in his leg, which is more typical. They reportedly caught it early. They think they can deal with it. We've three ones had a blood clot came back fine. Chris Bosh had bad blood clots and ended his career but for Ingram. Let's just assume that it because it was caught early. They can deal with it. Right. Because that is that's the only way he's of key point for this team either trade wise or otherwise moving forward. He was one of the best basketball was life since the. All star game six games, averaging twenty eight points per game that averaging that after throughout the first year and a half of his twenty. Yeah. Only clips twenty six points one time. And so the I had said last week that one of the few bright spots for the Lakers was with the season falling apart. The Anthony Davis trade they had a more attractive package put together because they were gonna have a lottery pick or good lottery. Pick and Ingram was looking better. And better and now for Ingram to have a real question Mark about can he be the centerpiece of trade when he has this injury. He has this condition if you will and can't show you can't have sixteen games of that level production. Instead, it could just be an outlier that's bad news. And for Lonzo that what if the Lakers defense all of a sudden went back to being a top twelve defense when Lonzo came back. You could just say all right? Look it was Alonzo affect defensively which makes him a more attractive trade peace and said they won't see him on the court this year. So this is way worse news than the five game losing streak or anything else going on with the team. These two young players not playing again this year is a big deal and potentially hugely problematic for them in the trademark. And if they decide to trade them, they can never say that they know kind of players they're going to be if they do put them in a tray they'll be given up on them early. You mentioned Ingram plan. The best basketball hip is career. They also from the injury standpoint. What if they get lucky what if they can't move Ingram? They get another free agent to coin come join LeBron. And then Ingram's able to pick up where he left off next season because of the injury or he can't get traded. Unfortunately for him, it's at bad timing. But also with Lonzo out with Ingram out coups must heart. That's why I sit LeBron. I'd sit him on out. Like, why waste those minutes. You can't you can't even justify all. Well, the young guys getting more chemistry more time on the court. No, you're putting minutes onto a superstar that you're going to need those minutes. I would I would actually be trying to tank right now to try to get the my the highest probability of winning the lottery disowning, I might be able to get Zion. And when you bring up the lottery people I should understand its tank if you take the better lottery odds, it's not just about Zion. Everyone wants I on. But it's the better chance of getting the second pick the third pick. You getting a player that people are mentioned. No, no, of course for the audience because they might see if the Lakers to seize point if they fall to more places in the standings. They all of a sudden would have a twenty five percent chance of a top four pick. So even if they're of Zion is a couple percent like the ability to get there's jam rant. There's ion there's RJ Barrett. There's guys that people consider blue damn it's more of an asset. Right. And the is much more attractive inner trade one of the arguments I had to not shutting down the Brown. Is you don't know if you're going to be able to trade these guys you don't know if we're gonna try to all of them or any of them. So more court time. I'm with him with these young players as relevant that aren't even. That's now out the window. Like that is you we didn't know at the time Ingram was going to have any type of serious situation. And it was being reported. They thought Lonzo might be back this week there. Now both done for the year. So that argument as to why LeBron showed play doesn't qualify because LeBron playing with the Caruso, and John Williams that motivator. That's relevant question about Lonzo ball. If we have some semblance of an idea of who Ingram was especially since we've seen him after the all star break is the jury still out on Lonzo ball. He's missed a big part of the season. He seems to be kind of injury prone to we know what kind of player he is. Or do you need to see another year? So before you could clump. No, no. He's got a problem. I mean is he is he going to ever develop a jump shot? He can't shoot free throws. So ultimately like how good how high is his ceiling in the NBA? Now, he did become their best defender. But you don't spend the lottery pick typically top five pick for a guy to be defensive specialist. So there's still so many questions as far as overall game. Yeah. Lonzo he needed the full year of year two and a full year with LeBron at least to have any idea of what's he going to up to that draft stat stock? I would say right now, he the odds are he will never live up to the drafts the draft pick. But we don't know what it is like he needs at least at least another full season under his Bill move onto the warriors. Not a great weekend for the best team in basketball. That's because they lost to the second worst team in basketball last night. In fact, they've lost six of their last ten games. And Kevin Durant left in the fourth quarter last night with an ankle injury. It was overheard in the tunnel. Yelling. We need to be playing championship. Basketball. However, Klay Thompson had a different take take a listen. Expect crowd crowded be wanting to like I know was not the playoffs. But he's our last go round oracle lease. You can stand up. If some we make good player, especially beginning. We need that energy species time of the year is hard to conjure up energy every single night because you're looking for the playoffs now run. So we expect fans kind of you know, bring that from the jump. He can't. I mean, it's like us still you can't bring it every night. But still it helps when it doesn't matter playing the sons or the the bugs whoever it is. We need that energy from them because we feed off that. We don't hear a lot of sentiment from Klay Thompson, generally. But a lot of emotion after this loss. How alarming is the warriors recent slump CC? To me. Like we've seen teams the reason. Why teams have a hard time putting together three or four seasons in a row at a championship level 'cause you get distracted. It becomes very very difficult. The expectations change the players even their expectations have changed as far as going to the Rena. It's the same arena, but they're not putting on the same performance. They put on the last three or four years. So the fans are reacting in that way. I take exception to what he was saying. I was watching this game. And the way warriors got off to their typical star had a nice double digit lead in the first quarter. But they gave up forty point in the second quarter in second quarter. So their defense is not nearly on the level. Now, we haven't seen all the players playing well together, I would say dollar is not the same player. Shaun Livingston is not the same player off the bench drama as an offensive player is not nearly the same. So clay when you're talking about the people or co because I'm sure though to same people. All right now, do they come to the game with? Expectations. They might. But what they've seen on the court is a different warriors team are not as deep as they have been. So the basketball that they're playing even based on the record as you can see is not up to the standard that these fans have been used to you got him spoilt clay analysts, and I really really like Klay Thompson this to me was a foolish comment. He said he he said, his listen, obviously, we can't bring it every night. But hopefully, the fans could that's not how this works. And when the warriors have made it clear that they are going to take the regular season. The last few years kind of for granted some nights your fans are going to now they're what is so it's not even confusing. It's almost predictable about the warriors at this point was their games this weekend. We I said last week that if they if they were the warriors team that we all thought they were going to be the beginning of the year. They blow out the nuggets they would remind everybody that they would have a real intensity. They were understand the one seat is on the line on Friday night with the team trying to chase them and they would play some of their best basketball. And they had a near twenty point lead at halftime. And they beat the nuggets by seventeen points. But it's like the moment they did that it's been since February twelfth since they've won back to back basketball games thing about that. It's almost been a month since they won back to back games. But the other point you made see about Draymond so dream on obviously is out there for his defense. And they allow forty points in the second quarter and dream on defense has not been up to the level. It had been in recent years. But if we show the last meaningful play of the game, this is where Draymond has been killing them. They let me just set the stage bit steps bring the ball up the court. They're down three points step is double teamed the entire time. And when he throws it to drain on you can see it, no one is guarding Draymond. And he didn't even look to the basket to three point game. The seventy three win season dream on shoots that Bill that will two years ago post seventy three win season. He at least turns and faces. So they have to collapse on him and go good shot. Great shot. Draymond is being guarded in. That on that possession like of incident like we know you're not shooting. So we can just use the man away from you that once Kevin Durant goes out of the lineup as he did midway through the fourth quarter. All of a sudden offense can be quelled even with the great Steph curry on the court like that playwright there is telling because guys are saying drain on no problem whatsoever. He was thirty eight percent the Seventy-three when you're he was thirty four percent the following season. Now he's under twenty five percent and guys in big spots guarding him accordingly. Steph curry said after the game the difference between seems like the difference between this year and last year is last year we had a little flied, but we were injured this year. We're having like, we're all healthy. It seems like that's an issue right now, they can't seem to get it all together is that how it feels to you see watching this year in watching last year that they can't quite put it all together last year. They did have a built in excuse and Lascaux they still play with more energy. You didn't see the inconsistency this late in the season. When all the guys were were healthy. But they really have a problem because. We won't ever Bill to give them a Nuff credit because they what a collection shooters, they have is really special. But man, they were great defensive team. And that's how you win championships because you can't shoot three's every night. Depend on ask Houston when they went cold lash it you have to build a play some defense. And that is what made the warriors so-social. That's what made has made them one. The best teams not only of talent. But as far as record. And that's why you could put them in a outmanned with this team beat the bulls. Would this be the old Lakers because on the defensive end they'd been special on that note in the last thirty plus years only two teams have won a championship without a top ten defense. One of the shack Koby, Lakers and LeBron's team in Cleveland. The warriors right now are the fourteenth ranked defense in basketball. So they they're not gonna get up into the top three as they had been early on. But you stay out of the top ten historic historically speaking, you're in the dangerous championship. The New England Patriots slowly coming down from their Super Bowl high. The reality of free agency has sunken yesterday. They lost two key pieces from last year's championship. Team defensive end, Trey flowers is expected to sign with the Detroit Lions where he will be reunited with former patriots coach map, Patricia and left tackle Troy brand will sign a deal with the raiders let us dive into free agency. See we'll start with you. How confident are you that the patriots will be well, absolutely fine? After losing these two pieces concerned at all the patriots made these players trae flowers. He's been in the patriot system for number of years having his best season this year where they were able to as a group help him manufacture those nine sacks. And that have him coveted as a free agent because those such always a premium put in free agency on quarterbacks and on guys that can rush to pass it from the other standpoints far as Trent. Brown. He was a guy that had a lot of talent. But they wouldn't say he was a underachiever in New England there on the left side. We didn't know he was going to be able to replace solar and Bill to do the great job that he did. But Dante scar Nekia we keep mentioned his name. He's wanting to best coaches that people don't talk about what he did with him there in New England allow him most of the time to solo block. They didn't have a tight end over there where helping they didn't have a fullback or someone chipping. So I expect it New England to allow these players to hit free agency and free agency. What do the bad football teams? Do they continue that they'll stay on this cycle of being either mediocre or poor? That mean in they're going to always be looking for free agents. They throw money at guys. They overpay in free agency. So well man is Trey flowers is he worth it. One of my coaches in pro football, me, you're worth what someone will pay. Now. Most of the time people think they're worth more, and they don't get it. But neither one. These players will be able to live up to these contracts. So this is what happens in free agent, especially the first three days of the I seventy two hours it's an auction and anyone that's ever been doing auction knows. If you win the auction by definition that means you said, I will pay amount that everyone else in the room said, I can't pay that much for this. And that listen trae flowers, if you look at his knockdown numbers because his sack numbers are not that impressed. But it's not down numbers over the last three or same as DeMarcus Lawrence for more than beyond clowney. So you can see why he was sought after people get the sticker shock of five years. Eighty eighty five million that you better be DeMarcus Lawrence at least to make that valuable deal. But why else is someone going to go sign with the Detroit Lions like not just because he played with Matt Patricia Trent Brown, we went through this exactly one year ago, Nate solar the former Tom Brady left tackle under Dante's Karnak with the New England Patriots becomes the. Highest paid offense of linemen in the history of football. We now have a situation where Trent Brown becomes the highest payed left tackle in the history of football. The patriots paid him two million dollars last year. He's now going to get thirty six million over the next two years guaranteed from the San Francisco forty Niners. So this I'm sorry from the Oakland Raiders, pardon me. This is the situation that these teams are in. It is very hard to get bargains in early days of free agencies have to accept we're paying twenty five percent premium at a minimum the pats on the other hand see they drafted Isaiah win a year ago. Now, we don't know what he'll be. But it's been a first round pick on him. Yeah. High draft picks the defensive back from Florida hand up getting hurt got two of the top three picks coming back after not making contribution. So they'll develop those guys the way that New England typically would and on dry flowers. It's high draft pick by Michael Bennett be as productive next year New England, if not more than trae flowers will be in Detroit, Michael Bennett, I. Think has at least one more year, very high level football left. Yeah. Look at his knockdowns very comparable to what they're what they gave up there with trae. I believe he's a better player. And I believe he's very very smart, very very savvy and watch how he fits into that New England system. So I I know New England not very good player at the right price. Well, and that's where and I and I always I don't ever begrudge any player making money. I would so much rather the players have the money than the owners, no problem with it. But in a hard cap sport, the money matters and Michael Bennett on a one year contract for less than ten million dollars is such a greater value proposition. Then trae flowers with fifty million dollars guaranteed at sixteen to seventeen million per, and I think they have been for the next two years under twenty million, correct? Absolutely. But they don't they they're not tied to him after the first year. So they want to move on from him. Yes. It's essentially tar you container because I believe he's going to have success. I know we talk about this a lot. But how are the patriots so much better than almost? Every other team at valuating talent, knowing when to cut a player went to bring in a guy that other teams have given up on it because they seem to they seem to just know the Xs and os of the business of football creek. They do know football better than anyone else. They don't know talent better. Like, they don't because they don't have a very very talented roster. Now, what they do is they believe in their system. They believe in their coaches were coach guys up, and then allow them to be able to play the best football Detroit because they have Matt Patricia. He's very very fortunate. But other players we have seen Chandler Jones. Being one of the most talented. We have seen these players leave New England and you start to see your system player this free agency. It distorts fans distorts coaches at the stores who that player really is because all players have weaknesses, but in free agency because of the sticker price and just like, wow, this guy's making that well the salary cap for one hundred eighty eight point two million. So we shouldn't be like, oh, man. These owners are broke right. The market will bear these type of prices. That's why the owners are paying these type of prices. So we should we should expect kept went up ten million over last year. It will continue to grow New England. They understand the ramifications. They have the type of deal though, when you have your quarterback, and he's not eating up thirty million of the cap, they have such a huge advantage. Now, they have some other advantages, but how they manage Tom Brady and his salary is one of the things they do at a level. And that's the reason why the New England Patriots the thing that the patriots. I think to better than every other team Jenna is not talent evaluation. But understanding the business aspect of football. And understanding they understand the draft is a crap shoot. So you know, what the best chance of winning that crap? Shoot is getting as many picks as possible they understand that free agency, you tend to overpay. So they sit back they never signed guys to. Contracts that could become bad contracts in the last three years. There's only one what I would consider risky contract signed free agent to Stefan Gilmore that. If he ended up being a bad player getting be repeatedly injured in almost like the chance they took when they went Rivas because they knew that a cover guy, and what I can do as far as coverage I'm willing to risk more money at that position than I typically would. But it gives me so much flexibility from game plan damn, and there's no other way to get that guy. So if you wanna go get that guy, you're gonna have to pay a premium, but the patriots are so disciplined in not falling in love with what what reasons he bias. What we saw last year in believing in their system that they will not overpay. And then they had the added benefit because the patriots guys might at the end of their careers. Take a little bit less to play their guys. Right. Want to choose to go there. And what they do Jim from talent standpoint, they know your players, maybe better than you know. And when you got rebus where? Decoupage from people say I came from Tampa Bay the jets. Yeah. And where to Gilmore come from the Bill some new peel so guys incisors visit the dealt with the doll. I mean guys in their division. They do that extra to be able to see how this guy fit into New England. And there's a couple of guys they've decided to pay and those things have really worked out. There are many teams you could say, oh, you left your starting. You lost your starting left tackle and defensive? You're going to be just fine. It's gotta just be the patriots. Running back joins. Like my brothers. They just go and go and awesome. I have one younger brother. Tell you. They're nothing like they're one of you. But I love you guys as if he were my brothers. Let's talk Beckham junior Brian. Two. Ryan focus this fight his star power Odell we're talking about and his talent and his seemingly perfect personality fit here in New York. Odell Beckham junior is reportedly still on the trade bloc GM, Dave Gettleman address this earlier this season saying we didn't sign delta trade him. And yet the rumors are plenty that he may be gone next season. Does this surprise you in any way, Brian? You know, we talk about putting special players around quarterbacks. Odell is one of the special guys that you wanna put around, but it comes down to this. And I think pass Hermino Pat pretty well. With my time with him in Philadelphia. He wants good fits he wants guys wanna buy into the program. He wants to buy into what we're doing that as far as team. And it just seems that odeal probably hasn't bought in to the team aspect of Pasha Mercer trying to present the other part of that is he's one of the assets that you can go get a lot of pieces with you first round pick a second round pick some players. He's probably one of those only assets that you have on that giant team that you can go get players with because he's such a special player and they wanna to build around the running back. They wanna build around saquon Barkley. Well. And I think they know that Odell has had something of a wandering I owed L. It's not I don't think it's breaking news to say that Odell has entertained the idea of what would it be like playing in Los Angeles. What would it be like playing with Tom? Br. Eighty what would it be like playing somewhere else? Not to say Odell has at any point demanded a trade del signed that contract happily. Odell hasn't said I don't want to be in New York. But so he hasn't asked for a divorce, but he served seems to be flirting with other people quite a bit. And that might make a team say we won't actively try to trade you gonna hang up on you. If you we will let it be known through sources that if you call us Nakas over now are they in a situation like Pittsburgh where they would trade Odell for thirty cents on the dollar. I believe absolutely unequivocally. Not I think it would have to be what the Cowboys got Maury Cooper the raiders remark Cooper. And then some I think it would have to be more than just a first round pick given what it would do to their salary cap with all the signing bonus hitting them immediately. And the fact that they clearly want to compete for one more year with manning and Dell's they're only reliable true wide receiver. Ingram's finds tight end. Saquon grade is running back, but I don't think we should. Even though galman adamant I didn't sign him doing extension to trade him. I don't think we should dismiss this reporter dismiss the idea that he could be traded before the season. And if he is some of it will be his own doing in my mind. Let me ask you this. And you have to think this has always throwing this out there we made trade, and we may maybe this is the way for him to say, oh del you need to act, right? Do the way do things the way that we wanna do it do the way that Pat Shurmur because we will trade you. And if you wanna be here, you need to do it the right way, you need to do it our way that wondering that's something that's important for for coaches. You want buying I want you to buy into our program. I want you to be here in the off season. I want you to help our team get better. I want you to be a leader on our football team. I think they're trying to get all those things from Odell Beckham junior. And the question is Kenny give you that. I disagree with both of you. I'd be shocked if they trade him, I believe it would be an idiotic move for them to build a trade them. His contract is just now starting the new one and. Based on what's going to happen? This off season watch. What happens to Michael Thomas in New Orleans? He's going to get a new deal. He's on his rookie deal as a second round pick. He's doing new deal after this Julio Jones held out last year. Arthur blank told me to my face. I'm gonna take care of Julio. So Julio Jones sitting there at Levin million CNN Tonio what he got it Oakland. Something's going to happen. AJ green? He's in the last year. All right at over thirty. But yes, AJ green is a commodity nicest guy you ever want to meet. So look for AJ green to get a bump tyreek hill, entira keel is going to be the highest paid of them. All so the landscape of the NFL and the salaries, and you look at where Odell is going to be he's be a bargain, all of a sudden it's going, so why would I let him go. He is a once every generation type of player, and regardless of what you guys say there's nothing that he is done that I'm gonna let him out of this locker room because you have to replace that productivity. And man those draft picks don't turn into Odal Beckham. He's won the top three top four wide receivers in the league right now. And he hadn't even hit his potential. He's going to get a lot better than he is right now. Now, there is a thing with these white receivers like AB one everyone's not Julio Jones, everyone's not Larry FitzGerald. So you might still have some maintenance with some of these other guys that you Julio Jones people don't say anything, but he he had a silent protest last year. Okay. I ain't come into the building until something is done. So is that more is that more drastic than what Dale has seen? So for me the giants obvious shocked if they trade him and the giants are not doing themselves favor by allowing these things to be out there. They should get ahead of government should always to say. No, he's not to be traded. He should be more emphatic than he has been every press conference. He should start at with Odell Beckham is not on the. Market now that that's not prevent you from getting your phone rang making all right now someone gives you three number ones or something crazy like that. I can understand that. But right now, they are not doing themselves a favor by allowing this conversation to continue because if you know a guy's got to wondering I. Nip it in the bud is you're right. The big questions to has to be can't you win with this type of receiver Julio, Larry FitzGerald AB Odell that now that is more honest conversation teams do have those guys on Iraq. Absolutely. Maybe maybe server are saying, what do you mean? By those guys he means we haven't seen a Super Bowl champion with one of these superstar wide receivers in a very long time. Now, I would argue that that we kind of did with the falcons Julio made the cats that should have won that damn Super Bowl. And they were in position kick afield will in the game's over like, I I don't buy into the idea that well because the last eleven SuperBowl champs. Haven't had one of the three best wide receivers and football. Therefore, that means you don't need them. In fact, they prevent you from winning. I think having great players helps you win championships. What we'll that's amazing because you're into the numbers. And now the numbers don't tell you stories. So now don't believe in the not. So I think there's I believe the great receivers are overrated. As far as putting the salary cap together in trying to win football games me. And my guy dusty I'm sure you'll love this right now in NFL if you look at what's the best personnel. How you want to tack people? It's not what three wide receivers own the field. It's either fullback and two tied in or two tight ends and one running back right now if you wanna Tak offenses because they spend all their time trying to stop nickel defense defenses. So I could have an argument if I'm running an offense. Yes. Chris Carter hall of fame wide receiver. Would you much rather be in with three wide receivers on the field or a fullback potentially an-another tied in I'm going to go to conventional route because I believe it's easier for to defend three right receivers right now than the other advocates. The idea there is when when the holiyay is zigging us that right? When the holy has gone to nickel deepens when the league is gone to small people in speed defensively, if we can now go the other way that's New England did to the Rams exactly what New England until the idea that trying to always be counter intuitive. When the league has overcorrected one direction. I think there's something to that. But when you say, I like the numbers the numbers telling my story so last year there was a narrative, which is look at all the highest paid quarterbacks and all those seams missed the playoffs. Maybe spending a lot of money on quarterback kills you. That to me was. Well, Tom Brady's not one. So he's not going to be on the list dot her exact out a few teams that didn't make the playoffs. It was an odd year. You you don't have Levin years while with the other number, but the, but it was not Julio's fault the falcons in when that Super Bowl. And if they do then that streak is broken. Right. It was not Randy's full. Well, you not a streak it would been like the number still say you shouldn't have a high pace they have won. They would have one win. Okay. So I just I do not believe, and you cannot convince me that there is any correlation between an inability to win a championship and having a star receiver because we have seen so many teams with these star receivers come this close. No, not the conversation. The conversation is. I'm going to attack people from a salary cap standpoint will be better off utilized spreading that money around to the other positions having a couple running backs having two or three titans having a fullback. I think that's what our conversation teams have been much more successful. Spreading the ball around getting the ball to a lot of different people to your point two tight ends one running back. It's much easier complete much more passes. First second down getting the ball. Short. Number say that tight ends two running backs out of the backfield instead of trying to get the deep threat with the wide receiver. That's what the big players are on. And the point you're making about you have to look at the value proposition given salary I am all in on that. I totally agree with you. But that doubles back to the beginning of the conversation. Oh, Dell's about to be a bargain at eighteen million per like he was top of the market that was brief AB past him. You mentioned three or four other guys that are going to pass him. So if you wouldn't call it a bargain, I would call it at a good price. You're not overpaying for now. He was making ten Levin. Million AJ. I'll tell you this if I'm saquon Barkley, I wanna del Odell Beckham junior on my team a way to make that work somehow, but you all agree that Dell's most likely going to be a giant would have to. I think someone would have to offer the giants a first round pick and something else and something else legitimate like a first and a second. And then I think they have to have the very real conversation about it. I don't know that that offers going to be made. But I don't think they're hanging up the phone their certain teams that are hanging up the phone if you call about a player giants hanging with phone call about saquon. I don't think they're hanging vines. I got a message trait. Odell don't draft manha- skins. Don't bring him up. Don't do us. No favours, man. Levian bell is headed to the New York Jets four years fifty two million dollar deal. Thirty five of those dollars are guaranteed. He will now make less per year. Little over thirteen million then he was slated to make under the Steelers sprint size tag last year. And less than other offers the Steelers had previously made him, but lady embel- has got a new chapter to start. Now. Put this on Instagram. Let's go he said life's again making reference to his new mix tape just came out. Catchy tunes. Yeah. It probably nab them play my cassette player that I don't know. Jenner. You gave me information makes tape music, LTd, whatever it was I didn't know being said we'll start with you. We'll put the album in the mix tape aside. What was your reaction to this deal? I'm happy happy. It was able to get done. You're talking about a team as we approach free agency the New York football jets. They had more money available at that time than anyone. And as you go through this and they start signing players. What are they going to get some offense help for Sam darnold, and I liked the way I they started on the defense able to get them some defensive help. But I like the fact that they have won the best all purpose. Running backs in football in lady unveil his ability to build to build effect the game as a running back out of the backfield. As a premier pass catcher. That's the difference between him and the other runningback. She talked about Todd Gurley man Todd Gurley. He's the best back in NFL Ezekiel. He might be the best pure runner. But the best combination running back is leaving him Bill, and he happens to play for the jets, and it is a huge insurance policy that you're going to get the best out of Saone darnold. So I'm glad there would help out the young quarterback to Bill. Give him a chance. I believe this team is being built the right way. Nice and slow. So I like the pieces that they've added they still can add a couple more pieces. So offense of line. There's some question marks. But they're off to a great start getting the prize possession in free agency. This year was lady and Bill and the jets got him. I know a ton of the discussions going to be the money and the money he didn't pick up last year, and we'll get to that. But on your point about helping out Sam darnold of the free agent wide receivers available was lady on bell the best one. Now, I understand running back. But if you look at the guys who are available as pass catchers in free agency was lady on bell the best guy to help Sam darnold in that regard as well. Because I know the jet signed Jamison Crowder, but. We talked about it. When the Cowboys traded for Amari Cooper. Remember like, we looked at the twenty nineteen NFL free agent list and wide receiver was not deep if they weren't going to trade for beef. They were going to trade for Dell. The way we saw the Browns due last night. Like, I also I think they got a great running back. But if you're trying to help Sam darnold not just because you're gonna hand the ball off. I lady on bell is up near the top list of any pass catcher that was available on the market. I don't well. There were a lot of prime past catches availab-. Right. But it does speak to overall ability. I think in the last six years he's averaged forty yards receiving a game. That's outstanding. But it not only helps Sam darnold because I think they're going to go with the young wide receivers on the outside. They tend they tendered our boy Robbie Anderson's noon while they saw Jameson currency outside Crowder's going to play the slot. But what L bell? Does he done only helps out the quarterback, but he helps out that offense of line? So he might be the best pass catching receiver available that. You know, that's up for someone else to debate. But what he can do helps out that offense of line and it helps out Sam. So the jets they traded for OSA Mela the offense of guard from the Oakland Raiders on the tail end of very expensive contract. We mentioned that they signed James and Crowder, they upgraded the defense with CJ Moseley. They thought they were gonna Anthony Barr. He ended up going back to the Vikings. But this is the process and the process has to be give darnold some help. At the end of last year. Darnold, the last quarter of the season played well his passer rating jumped up twenty plus points. Only at one interception. The final four weeks. You're starting to see. Okay. He's he's he's coming into his own after that foot injury. And so you now have a real difference maker on defense on offense that defenses have to account for and for lady on the money side of things. This is the most guaranteed money any running back has ever gotten and he becomes on an annual basis the second highest paid running back in the league. Just behind Todd Gurley. So even if it's shy of the sixteen to seventeen million per year that reportedly he had been looking for you to the last two off seasons. The thirty five million guaranteed was right around the number both you and I said yesterday we thought his contract would end that even if the annual value was higher. So maybe a little disappointment that he didn't get to sixty five million subtle around fifty three million. But the guaranteed money is what was key. It's what the Steelers were not offering ending up thirty five million from the jets, you think L bell he would fetch more on the open market than he did. Yeah. Absolutely. Last night talking to some people the market wasn't there for either from a they were not going to make him a wide receiver because that was one of the things that he wanted why he didn't want the franchise tag. He said I'm more than a running back trying to reset the running back market, but he wasn't able to do that. Because teams didn't agree with them. And there's some other things teams didn't like they didn't like the fact that he didn't play last year. Didn't like the fact that he's been in the drug program could be suspended. So there were a number things that kept his annual salary out of being seventeen million sixteen million which a lot of people thought because there were so many teams that had dollars vailable. It was some of the other stuff that stuff that prevented him from Bill to fetch that big when you see that this is what it took to get him. Are you surprised the colts didn't match this offer? No. Because if you read everything that the colts have been saying, they don't want to sign high price guys, they looked at last year's free agency and people who judge last year's free agency, people would know this. But they say man to culture one of the best teams. They got a couple starters. Eric ibran? They got some secondary help bolted. He's guys were frontline players for them Ebrahim played to a Pro Bowl level. They had said they wanna do it. Nice and slow they want to build it the right way. So even though you might think Indies a good fit. I mean, you have to read the tea leaves when they're saying they're going to build it. Nice and slow they're not gonna make that type of investment. So for me, I wasn't as high on indie is I was on San. Francisco and the jets those are the two teams at the end of the day. Not Baltimore San Francisco forty Niners. They made a bid form it wasn't as high. But the jets were the were the biggest offer. So when he took some type of discount. No, he went to the highest bit. And he was always gonna go to the highest bidder. I was just I thought maybe the colts or the Texans could have involved themselves in that high bidding on the colts point. We saw the deal. They just gave Devin funchess where I think a lot of people think. Wow, one year ten to thirteen million for funches that the one years the key. They're the colts clearly have the philosophy of we are not going to give huge dollar multi or deals, and so this would've I guess fallen in Canada. They haven't found the player that they're going to give that deal correct right there. They're not going to rush to give that deal. So when you give funches one year deal what you're doing is rolling that cap space over the end, you don't mess up your salary cap. You don't get t y Hilton coming back asking for more money because if you pay him a lot more money in your paying t y Hilton it where he they don't have nearly the same resume. So they're making sure that they don't set a bad precedent for the team the appetite for him wasn't where we all thought. It was you can get an offer from the Texans. The ravens didn't make an offer. The colts were clearly out of it. The Niners weren't really there at the end when they saw what the jets were going to offer. Does that surprise you at all that at the end for a guy that's twenty seven years old, and seemingly has you know, as year of rest and has a whole future ahead of him. I think the year of rest clearly worked against him. And this is something Chris talked to a lot when he was taking the time off ball players play football basketball players. They who we haven't seen people start taking time all and we saw it enhanced her career. So we got all these experience to think that he was going to be the one the NFL looked at it and said, no, we don't think this the people that run football teams clearly share that philosophy with Chris much more than what I was saying. Which was I totally understood what Levy on bell did last year. I totally understood the idea of not wanting to go back to a team where he'd been the most used running back on a per game basis and then fell history. Where you had no guaranteed money after this season where you could potentially be used as a rental car because they knew you weren't coming back because you thought you wanted and by the way, he was right on the guaranteed money. You had a big guaranteed payday coming coming next. Now, if he would have known this is the contract offer he gets would he have played last year. We'll never know the answer to that question. And what would he have gotten? If he played last year, clearly his best case scenario would have been played stay healthy state productive. And then go get this contra fourteen million dollars of that's why it would have been now his worst case scenario would have been play suffer a significant injury. And only see that fourteen million dollars significant earnings the rest of his career. But when he made the calculation he and his agent to not play last year. I think they thought it was going to be more like five years seventy million and that would compensate for the fourteen million lost. All right, lady bell is headed here to New York. He will be a New York chat. But more news out of. New york. Big news Odell traded to Cleveland that's next on this one. You can always check us out on the Fox Sports channel on Sirius. XM? We'll be right back this Saturday night. Don't miss the biggest pay per view fight of the year to the best pound for pound fighters in the world. Put their perfect records on the line aerospace junior takes on Mikey Garcia for the world welterweight championship live for AT and T stadium, spins junior versus Garcia, Saturday ninety six Pacific live on pay per view order. Now, I biggest story of the NFL last night less than two weeks. After giants. Jan Dave Gettleman said the teen didn't sign Odell Beckham to trade him the giant signed del Beckham. And traded him Beckham is headed to the Browns for a first and third round pick along with your Bill peppers no-one worksite than Beckham's former LSU UT may Jarvis Landry who sent out this picture on Instagram with the caption. It feels good OB j I love you brother, Baker put this picture on the. A grand. On the Graham. You're right Baker and his new weapons right here. Nick, what was your reaction to the deal? There was a lot on Instagram Twitter a bunch of players reacting which will we'll see a little bit. But the your reaction to the deal what an absolute win for the Cleveland Browns team those one in thirty one for two seasons and then fired their coach midway through last season. And now all of a sudden they have the eighth best Super Bowl odds. According to sports books in Vegas. They're fourteen to one they are right now they were twenty five to one before. And they before they got a now fourteen to they were a hundred to one to start lassie's. Yeah. And so it speaks to there is no five year plan in the NFL. Now, turn it around quick. Get your quarterback spend your money. Turn it around quick. I love the move for Cleveland for the New York Giants. It's very simple. It's just a total rebuild built around thirty eight year old quarterback of which there is no track record of that ever working in. Football at any level. Not even senior league football. You don't wanna rebuild around thirty eight year old quarterback. It is this is this is the type of move where if a coach or a GM ends up getting fired when the article is written about in the New York Post and the new York Daily News in the first couple of paragraphs, they mentioned thirteen days after committing Todo Beckham long-term and ten months after giving him the biggest contract in franchise history for non quarterback they traded Odell Beckham junor for the seventeenth pick the ninety fifth pick and Jibril peppers Bach safety like that is the giant giants gone to prove it to me. Now, they've got two players from every draft. They made prior to twenty sixteen a long, snapper and ally who evidently is going to outlast everybody. I I don't know what the giants are doing by love the move for the Cleveland Browns. That was my initial reaction when I heard about it like a great move for the Cleveland Browns. The best move that they've made is a franchise. Is I would say I would take the top five moves in franchise history in this one would be one of their one of their biggest moves when they lost the franchise getting a franchise awarded back that they were going to have football. But since then I would say this is probably the this is probably the biggest decision now people will say man to Baker Mayfield. But them putting together this team. So let's give credit right from the from the towel because when good organizations do will we always give credit to ownership Jim house them as the owner there. And he's gotten a lot of criticism two years. He's made a lot of mistakes the other businesses that he's in. He did not know that the NFL was the way. So he's made some colossal mistakes executives coaches players how he was doing things, but he has the right guy in Dorsey as the general manager and allowing him to build a build operate with the flexibility to build them a monster. Like, they have woke up asleep in beast in Cleveland, and you. Have to give credit to the ownership there in Dorsey Dorsey will be executive of the year. If you look at what he's done in the short period of time transforming this team from one of the worst franchise is to being now, they have legitimate Super Bowl. Now to me this is not one of those off seasons like the Washington Redskins. Have we see people go out and spend one hundred million dollars in trying to bio Super Bowl? No, this is someone trying to buy themselves a franchise and get some credibility back in the NFL with the young talent that they have if you look at their star players they got so many great players under the age of twenty five they have more great players under the age of twenty five than anyone in the National Football League. I'm excited about the Cleveland Browns, and I'm really excited because one of the best towns we've seen come into the league and Baker Mayfield. He's been gigging get supported like no quarterback that I've seen because this reminds me of Troy Aikman when he was in Dallas. And he took that beatdown. They end up at Michael, Irv. To that team because he was injured. So he wasn't there when they lost. And then they drafted Emmett Smith, and they had the triplets going forward. This is the way the Cleveland Browns can look baking look a lot like the Dallas Cowboys, look and those great team when see mentioned triplets, obviously they've gotten Chubb, but they signed Kareem hunt. Now Kareem hunt is gonna probably be suspended beginning of the year. But John Dorsey a guy was in cancer. When they got Kareem hunt from football perspective that is a great move for them. So you you also add the other things they've done this off season. How about bringing in Libya Verdon apps how about yesterday during the show Sheldon Richardson came over for them? So all of a sudden, you are building when we've seen other teams have a monster free a monster offseason, h usually by well the way the giants in a few years ago on defense, you're overpaying for your talent. The other aspect of this for the Browns as quickly is because the giants paid the whole signing bonus. They get Beckham at fifteen million per year. Now. Now, I know there's questions how long will he play under fifteen million per year if he will come to them at some point want more money. But right now, definitely come to them before this contract is over with before. It's over for sure. Like just kicking it. Now. There's no he won't come to this year. We we don't know that Nick. Okay. There are some stuff out there that he's not happy with the overall number. All right. There was a report last night. So it's not that he might not report. But he might not be happy after CNN Tonio. Julio Jones is getting ready to get a bomb. Michael Thomas in New Orleans high gonna reset the market. So don't just okay, I would be I would be surprised if he goes to this season. My point is regardless they're not overpaying right now. For beckham. They got him for fifteen. They got him for five years. Seventy two million as the contract is currently written with nothing guaranteed after this season. We had some questions about Jarvis Landry last year. And what he was he was able to do. But Adam Henry they're receiving their receivers coach actually coach both these guys Landry and Odal back at LSU. How potent does that make? This offense. Now that those two guys can work well together, and you have Baker and you have already had from last year. Amount of things that you want as a coach you have people in the building that are very familiar with Odell and wide receiver. Coach is a huge part of that. That's why John Dorsey because I I met with him last year. I did week number fourteen Cleveland verse Carolina, a met with the wide receiver coach, and we talked about odeal, and he wanted he wanted to build a trade for Dell at some point. He likes him. He's been knowing him since he was a kid and DALE'S had great success with him. He got the best. I'll Jarvis Landry and the rest of that receive in court last year. I don't think people understand when you're young quarterback. And you are able to add weapons you got a stellar running back in Nick chop them university. Georgia coming off a rookie season offense of line. That is really underrated. Underrated enough that they could trade one of their guards for Livia Vernon because that's how much talent I have. So. Tied in is emerging as a as a threat he can run. So they got a track team. They can throw some people at you offense. But let's not forget, I believe the Cleveland Browns kinda hidden Jim to this defense. I believe going to be a top ten defense. This is we'll talk about the offense. But their defense is full of young playmakers. Also and trained for Livia Vernon was kind of the start of getting some more young players on on defense. I believe is going to be very very that goes back to your rigid point, which is credit to John Dorsey, one of the blue chippers on that defense was a guy when they drafted him. I was like wait what at four you're taking Denzel ward, you're not taking Bradley Chubb. You're taking the corner at Ohio State. He was awesome last year. We know how good Myles Garrett. Is that guy is twelve sacks. You're waiting to happen. If it's not already happening. Then you add you find a pass rusher in alleviate Vernon through the trade market. You find shown rank Sheldon Richardson through free agency. There you go. Now. Now of a sudden, I mean, those are I would say to no doubt blue chippers in Garrett and ward and to whatever one degree blow blue Chipper is in the two players. They added in free agency and a Vernon shelve Richardson. So there's your defense and on offense Baker last quarter the season now top six and passer rating top eight and yards per temp. Like Baker was good immediately. But he was really good late. This is a team that all they need is Joe Thomas to put eighty pounds back on come out of retirement. That's not going to happen. But I can guarantee you today. What March thirteen Baker Mayfield woke up and said man, I'm filling dangers. Brown's best team the division right now. They were besting yesterday. Murray was front and center yesterday. Oklahoma's pro day all eyes on what he would and could do after skipping drills at the combine by all accounts. He performed well. Completing sixty one of sixty seven passes Murray didn't get measured doing nothing to quite those who said his measurements were inflated at the combine because your height is obviously for interpretation our own Joel Klatt was there said Keiler has nothing to worry about. He threw the ball. So well today was effortless. He threw it as well. As Baker did last year or better at times, he showed a quick release. Great RPM's on the ball through it, really. Well, down the field firmly believe Arizona's going to take her. He was terrific today. Effortless. Throw the football. See anything Cuyler solidified himself as the topic in the draft after his pro day. I think that when people just stop listening to all the noise, and you just look at the film and you start to analyze him just as a prospect. You don't look at the height and everything you look at where does the ball go. You start to understand often the scheme you talked to the coaching staff. So you start to figure out. Okay. What were you trying to do here? And then you start to understand like, okay. This is what he had to do in this offense, and he can flat throw the football. Like, he he's very athletic. And he rush four thousand yards and everything, but he didn't need to. He is not Lamar Jackson. And I think the more. We study him the more information you get out there. Even though people say, they watch college football. They like to put guys if they look a certain way into a certain bucket like he can only do this. And that's why pro day was situated was yesterday. He didn't make any throws on the move on on the run because he knows people think that so he tried to. Work on the things people think that he can't do as a smaller quarterback. I love the fact that he went out and hired one of the great small quarterbacks in NFL history in Jim zone who was a left he trained them and got him ready for its pro day and everything so gyms a great guy fundamentally very very sound and he had him ready perform yesterday, and you could see that he's just trying to remove some of the myths that people think, but when you stop looking at height, and you just look at him as a prospect, and you see the football and how he can direct the football. He can throw it high. He can throw at low. He can throw it with velocity. Like he can put a touch on it. Those are all the things that typically when you are a dual threat quarterback or an athletic quarterback. Those words they put with quarterbacks like they don't have that ability to build a throat they can either all along and throw it hard. But they don't have that ability to build a very the throws which Cuyler show yesterday. So great day for him. And whatever. People thought about him when the day began through the workout that didn't change. So if they thought it meant he's the best prospect in the draft the number one quarterback he solidified that they thought he was number two he solidified that yesterday. One hundred percent did not hurt himself. And I don't know how much you. I think it's hard in pro days to help yourself drastically because it is such a controlled environment. When you do really well people like, well, you're supposed to do really where Cevers your environment. Exactly. Right. But I he to my I made no errors from the people watching sixty one of sixty seven one of those drop, and then he had three MRs to the deep right side of the field. But I mean, we're talking about completed over ninety percent of these passes and one of with one drop baked in there. Right. And there's an excuse for that deep to the right side of the field specially for young quarterbacks because they're throwing to the middle. They're not used to it with the hash marks that you have typically in the NFL tighter to the middle to feel compared to. Smart the ball or right hand quarterback is spinning more to the right. So when they miss they miss long and out of bounds. But that's something that's easily corrected. And I thought it was very smart that he as you mentioned did do anything on the run. It was all in the pocket was drop back. Maybe one step to your left one step to right and throw and see is totally correct. That if I can get over if I could get over the height and just watch it if I was watching him there with no other no defenders around our offense climbing around him. That was my first time watching him because you can't really tell how tall e is in these clips because around him. I'd look at him say my goodness. I mean the ball comes out quick it comes out. It comes out. Like, you said with velocity. He can clearly hit every quadrant of the field that I have a hard time getting over the height. And when I've got Haskins who I think can throw the ball, maybe as well if not a little bit better, obviously doesn't add the lettuces them. I'm going to go with the. Who's four and a half inches taller? But what he did yesterday? Was he absolutely if you already liked him you love him. And what is amazing to me about this whole process? Jenna is at the week four Mark of last college football season. Baker Mayfield was nowhere considered the first overall pick the week four Mark of this college football season question was is he going to play baseball and for the change to be that drastic in that quick in consecutive drafts. Potentially to me is remarkable based on two guys from the same college with the same coach. And what they both might end up going number one. What's the thing? We love so much about Baker Mayfield coming out last year. The kid was a winner say about what he did some of the antics and all of it. He was an absolute winner at every level. And I think sometimes that gets lost with Cuyler Murray and his height measurements in all of it. The kid doesn't lose. He never lost a game in high school as a starting blue food again never lost as high school. In the state of Texas. I mean, there are five people, but look there there are some states that play football in high school that are different California, Texas, Florida, Georgia like the football is just totally different in them states. Now, there's others I can include. But in that state at a big time high school didn't lose a game up forty two and oh state champions. And we typically all these other quarterbacks the white once we always we've never missed that. Oh, man. He's a win. We never miss that. But we have not heard Jenna. We have not heard about his resume. He said he thought that he was the greatest high school player in the history of the great state of Texas. And I don't mean to reference my time in Texas one segment, but I was there when he was in high school. So I had just moved to Texas when he was a senior in high school. And then surely there are maybe a junior shortly after he went to Texas am which is obviously the second most prominent college in Texas. This kid was legendary. This kid. He's he's clips the way we showed Zion clips last year when he was in high school that will would we talked about in the Texas high school football communities down there. And I when I watched him then I thought man, this guy is going to be an amazing college quarterback. And I put the ceiling on him there. And I thought he'd go play baseball and throughout most of this year. I thought he was going to go play baseball. He is now probably going to be the number one pick of the draft. And I'm rooting for him. He will be the first person if he's successful ever successful a high level in this league at that height. But you can't deny what he can do with his right arm. You can't deny the accuracy and the strengthen the football and velocity. And I liked how Joel Klatt put at the RPM's the way the ball spend all of that. You don't have to be a football expert to see say, okay. This guy can do that. Really? Well, can you survive the physicality of the NFL? That's the only question Mark on it allowed God. But he's confident to consider yourself the best high school quarterback in the state of Texas. You want that kind of confidence when up salute. All right. Take a break coming up. Would the Lakers being the playoffs? If LeBron never got hurt discuss that next first things first this Saturday night. Don't miss the biggest pay-per-view fight of the year to the best pound for pound fighters in the world. Put their perfect records on the line Aerosmith junior. Takes on Mikey Garcia for the world welterweight championship live from AT and T stadium, spins junior versus Garcia, Saturday, nine eastern, six Pacific live on pay per view order now. The big east tournament quarterfinals tip off today with providence taking top seeded Villanova followed by Creighton. Battling Xavier the action begins at noon eastern on this one and on the fuck sports f. Okay. Let's go. No. I can't go to you today because I gotta go get my teeth fixed with agendas guy, then to cut my teeth. But no, I'm there tomorrow. So they better win tonight. At noon means go never too much information available for dinner time for us to go. Viral giants fan still in shock after the team traded away. Three time pro bowler. Odell Beckham to the Browns won giants fan in particular was very upset about the news. Take listen. I don't know. Either way. He's good. But those people are dumb dumb. The whoever ran the NFL that traded him due back on. He is the only one that's going on a team. Everyone else sucks. And that we're going to be even worse when one game the whole season perfect. Sweeping I love intensity, but they do have a running back. He is really really good. But man, I'm there are a lot of Odell Beckham number thirteen female jerseys in New York City that dude Sosa merchandise people love him in New York. And right now as you can probably get them at discount dirt cheap price. Now. I do I wonder if her assessment, which is probably a little on the harsh side is closer to reality. Then the GM Dave gentleman's assessment, which is we can contend while we rebuild. I wonder at the end of the season. We're going to think the young lady sitting there saying, everyone stinks. We're not gonna win a game was going to be. Kinds fans yesterday. They all most of them felt the exact same way. She did take up sent here in New York City from. It's amazing ever runs. The. L there guy. Do I tand restores to start your morning this morning? Earl Thomas finally found a home and it's not with the Cowboys. But it is with the Baltimore Ravens Baltimore signs safety to a four year fifty five million dollar deal. Thirty two million dollars guaranteed. See how much better the ravens defense just get by signing. Earl Thomas two minutes amount of faith in the defensive coordinator, Martingale hitman. He runs a great defense. They lost a few players. But man, Earl was a baller, man. He is a football player and his mindset in psyche fits in well in Baltimore, and how they do things are defensive organization very very physical a lot like when he had success in in Seattle there. He's one of my favorite players to watch. I just hope he can stay injury-free. He's had a couple of Babbel's last couple years. I think a healthy. Earl Thomas is still the best in the league his position. And so if he's yell see they just got better. I know they lost Eric Weddell. But he's better a better player right now than are. Ravens lost three starters from their front seven. But they've retained everyone on the back end except for Weddell and dad upgrade their this was one of the two best defenses and football with a healthy. Earl Thomas they should be in contention for at least in the top five once again next season moving on. Teddy Bridgewater has an interesting decision to make the twenty six year old quarterback is reportedly Wayne stain with the Saint says the heir-apparent drew Brees or signing with Miami and competing for the starting dolphins job with Ryan tannehill. Teddy met with the dolphins yesterday. Nitin? What do you think? Teddy Bridgewater should do if he has to compete with Tanna hill. I think I'd strongly consider staying in New Orleans one more year. If Miami's saying if you sign with us, we're cutting Tanna hill and at your job, then I think you've gotta go were the starting job is guaranteed. But when you have a chance of having even if you win the job if you have a rough stretch people saying go back to Tanna hill. I wouldn't I wouldn't wanna go to getting a quarterback. Competition with the guy who's making the type of money tannahill is, but if they are going to cut him, then go with the starting job if not I'd be content sitting behind breeze one. We're one of the things you love about drew Brees. Jenna was that. He said, hey, let's Chris. I'm in good shape any quarterback. I just don't brag about it. I got I got a staff of people. I eat all the right thing. So we don't know how long drew Brees. But the -bility to have your own franchise. And if it happened to be in your backyard, like Miami teddy Bridgewater from miam- he went to high school Miami. Northwestern lead them the state championship. So the ability Bill play in front of your family have your own team. Jim called will is the system head coach Greer the general manager both of these African American head coach in African American. It would be the first time that we have seen that combination African American head coach general manager and quarterback combination failed. We're going into our hundred years year, celebrate and football. So that would be a very very great combination to have really cool store. I'm moving on the late. It was awful. Tell us coming out on the fly. It worked all that out. The Blake Bortles era in Jacksonville has come to an end the Jaguars released their former third overall pick after signing foles this off season. Jacksonville's twenty four and forty nine in games that Blake Bortles started C. Will we see Bortles under center again in this league, man, I know this league and they have a ugly ugly history of giving guys who can't play an opportunity. So I would be naive to think that his career's all with. No, he's got a few more opportunities. Blaine gabbert hadn't even started a couple of times different places, San Francisco, Tennessee. Yes, Blake Bortles. He will get opportunity to play somewhere else. Jenna. How tall is Blake Bortles slake six five six five. So Denver needs backup. Right. I mean, not fall. He's not playing Jonah might be telling to be the back. Cup when they're true. Shea gin. Oh, spicy commentary with me. Too much three. Listen, he's not going to be a starter anywhere. And I think it's going to be harder for him to ease into a backup spot because he has become fairly you're unfairly a punchline in a lot of cities. But do I think he's going to be out of football next year? No, he'll be someone's backup. Always a coach out there Jinnah things, you know, something let me have this kid. He's really talented. I liked him coming out of college. He went to Jacksonville day ruined them. I can resurrect career real quick real quick. I'm sorry. What about a system Fizi where do they have a quarterback? That's big can run and can't throw buffalo. He's the perfect backup to Josh Allen. Josh Allen comes out the same exact offense. That's an option as well. So maybe buffalo words for. Antonio Brown was officially introduced to the raiders faithful yesterday the marriage between Jon Gruden will certainly be an interesting one to watch spicy versus spicy the seven time. Pro bowler dressed the media for the first time since this was announce any can't wait to dive into gruden's offense of system. As soak up every information coach got to be successful. Can't be helped the team take it to a new level. So I'm decided being in the same buildings guys who've been great Fronta pass. But I'm assigned to be here and help things go to low FARs that winning environment. My goal really is to catch Jay Wright plan with a guy like Gruden obviously know what it takes to keep me out right in fresh and keep me out there for a long time so Nossa criminals challenges child every year to prove my love for the game. You know, and I'm just taking one you gotta time one of the benefits we have of working with a guy like Nick ride is he crunches numbers as things come out. So Antonio Brown mentioned, Jerry Rice, and guess what? Nick said while it happened. Well, listen, he's got Jerry Rice Jerry Rice is at twenty two thousand eight hundred yard Tonio Browns at eleven thousand two hundred. So that's easy. Matt if he doubles his production, he has the career he's had. Has the executive again he'll be like four hundred short on. Won't be a good month book ball away. And that's the yards touchdowns. He's I think about one hundred thirty short which is so he has the rest of his career the exact number of touchdowns you had in the entirety of your career hill. Almost catch chairs. I mean, he's that's not fair to be like he can have a great tenure and never touch Jerry Rice's. No. Well, then what what is going to be the Brahmana what's going to be considered a success friend. Tony brown. I mean, he he passed the first test. He shaved moustache resided, that's natural color and rid of some of the things on top. But tell me what would be considered a success for AB in Oakland. He's off to agree Greek store. I know you hate when people change teams, and then they get opportunity sitting there waiting for them. And then they they put off that first impression like I don't like it has nothing to do with can they play. They lose the first press conference with he did was he sat down there. He did. He fixed his mustache. She had his hair in the hairstyle that was presentable, and he talked with the people who decided to extend his contract, and he talked about me take this one year the time because he wants to show them that he really loves the game. And before we had this big blow up, I told Nick for the longest time. This is one of the hardest working guys. Guy spins amazing amount of money on his body. Like, he is a work out food. He gets up in the morning loving to work out and those types of guys fussy as a wide receiver because he didn't get into a lot of big collision. He can play for a long time. So for me, he had the right attitude. It started with Jon Gruden sitting down and John gruden's office in Jon Gruden had every pass play that he ever participated in with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And they went through that film watching it and watching it so Jon Gruden knows the type of player that he's getting. But he told him you're good at certain areas. But there's some areas you're not good at in those areas, I'm going to push in that's one thing with Gruden man. You will get tired of him every day being at he coaches pro like they coach in college. And we we haven't seen pros that really respond that way, so AB as a workout warrior. I believe it is a good fit. I'm glad they had Mike mayo. There because I believe that they're going to get some talented players there in Oakland. I believe the story is going to change their in Oakland, and it starts with the relationship. AB humbled himself saying that guy, right? There is getting ready to football. And if you wanna play a longtime aby sometime, it's not about you ability to end, it's about your leadership. Is he going to be the face of the Oakland Raiders when they go Vegas? So that's what he's proven in these in these first couple intros to him. So he's off to a great start. He's not a dumb guy. He knows how the market himself. Let's get back to the football part. That's the part. He is a master. He's the best in the NFL. Currently what we had six straight seasons. One hundred catches six straight seasons. Twelve hundred yards. You wouldn't want anything else from the wide receiver? So I like the way he got it started the relationship there with the media the coaching staff. Let's get back went out to the field worked out with car. This is who this guy is and narratives in the NFL. About teams or players can turn on a dime. I remember when the eagles and giants were both had an open head coaching position. And the giants hired Ben mcadoo and the eagles hired Doug Peterson both up and coming offense of cord. Exactly. Right. And one year in eagles fans were angry. Why did we go with Peterson? We could've had Makato and a year later macadear is fired and Doug Peterson is a Super Bowl champion. And now Makhdoom it's not like he's the next hot name. People are trying to hire a head coach and Doug Peterson seemingly as much job securities. Anybody this side of Bill Belichick narratives with Antonio Brown. Ken change. Like, we can forget what has been a really think uncomfortable and unfortunate call it six eighteen months, if he produces the way he always has the Reiter raiders win some games. He doesn't have the type of off field nonsense associated that was associated with them in Pittsburgh. And if at the same time Pittsburgh struggles this year, all of a sudden, the narratives like, oh, wait, maybe it was the quarterback more. Whether it's accurate or not is sometimes the fact stop really mattering. And it's the story that gets told I know Antonio Brown will produce I know Antonio Brown is going to work hard. Because as you said, and this is it is like the most common refrain in the NFL whether people like a B or not everyone says like its own can't deny. It's like it's part of his his name hardest worker in the NFL Tonio Brown. And there when it comes to stories and narratives his story narrative also is a great one for the totality of his life coming from being homeless where the sit circumstances if he has a redemption act, we love redemption plotline, we love to build you up. See you fall and build your back up again. And so I think he is I think he's a great player. And I think the raiders got an absolute steel now. Who's going to be as quarterback, what will Gruden show an ability to produce a high level offense which done very rarely in his coaching career. Those are fair questions. But that was a great start, right? And it's storylines. It's a great storyline that the raiders would be back as being team. It's a great storyline. John grooten goes into the booth comes back. It's great story line might may out coming out of television talking about draft picks talking about NFL going on to run an NFL team. So they have more people. I know on this show. We've been critical of them. I've been critical of them because the just the facts, but that's a good story. Waiting to happen. Yesterday. Was a good day and the best way to change the firm to get it on that field and just one game. All right. Just win baby by all accounts. Lebron's first season in LA has not gone. Well, you can pick your reason why finger-pointing trade rumors no playoffs, which is all but a certainty at this point. But truth be told had it not been for small wet spot on the floor, the one LeBron slipped on tore his groin and miss stove. A month of action. This Laker team was on track to make the playoffs yesterday. Lebron met with the media and said the season could have been very different. These say, well if. For me. I can't do that. I'll cheat myself. Obviously, I know, you know. You know? How was leading the team to December twenty fifth and how was approaching the ball club was right on track. How do every single year, and especially I was even more patient with the young guys in unfortunately wants to follow here, you know, terror to grow and slapdown other mastermind regime Rondo on his hand. I we got a torn grown in a in a broken hand and both of our out of tend to have weeks combined. So you know, definitely was sucked at that point in time. All right. Let's play a little hindsight's think. The Lakers would have made the playoffs. If it weren't for LeBron's injury. Absolut? Absolutely. I think they would have made the playoffs. I think it's fair to say, I don't think it's is an excuse. But it's it's not only LeBron. But the Rondo thing you can't have both of those guys out of the organization because there are a lot of things that not on the stat sheet, but the overall leadership and what these younger players need someone to stabilize the ship. You can't have both them injured because the effect from a leadership standpoint. When you get injured in sports, you lose a lot you leadership. Kevin durant? He couldn't lead last night professional athletes. Do not listen to guys that are hurt. Like, you lose that feel. We saw that with Nick foles, man. What was Carson Winston chair like you lose your leadership because you're not here to help us? And it's amazing. It's like you're only different team when you're hurt compared to win. You're in the flow of even if you're injured and still playing so. Yes. I think it's fair to say Christmas night, they beat Golden State. I mean, tremendous win LeBron goes down. No, nobody's sorry to interrupt. Just real quick on Christmas night. That was when the Lakers were still if you fall down stay down till your teammates get to pick you up. Nobody thought that the veterans in the young players disconnected like LeBron set at there. He said now, maybe he is maybe it's a little revisionist history. What he said I thought it was connecting with the young guys. I thought and then he was gone. They lost the Anthony Davis thing happened. He I think then failed to reconnect with the young guys and win a skew. But on Christmas night, nobody thought they'll even Chris Mannix come around fourth place sports place in the west. And I know it was it was it was real tight fourth air, but they were right there, and they were in the warriors. But then after that, and I like the fact to the bron- he's starting to get a little more insight. He slipped a couple of I'm gonna say slip because he didn't say I got injured. He said I tore my grown Steph strained his groin. Miss Levin games. Lebron Tor has grown. He hadn't been saying that he said he hurt his growing. But when you tear your growing, you could see when he came back. He was not at the wait that we saw him on Christmas night. You could see he didn't have the cardio. Didn't have the win didn't have the stamina when he went to the button to push it, Geno. You would like, oh, he doesn't have. He didn't. He didn't have LeBron activation mode. So all those things are accurate. But if LeBron James is healthy, the loss Landis Lakers are going to be in the playoffs. Now, he just has his normal season. We'll give him five or six games where he can take all the for for load management, all those type thing. But if he doesn't miss those eighteen games the Lakers are gonna be in the playoffs. And listen, the all of that's true. And of course, that was the key moment. Now was it salvageable when he came back. Maybe if Anthony Davis never demanded trade and the team stays more connected. Is it salvageable despite the injury. Yeah. Probably if Luke Walton does a better job while the. Out is it salvageable. Yeah. I think it is. If they don't have you have listened front you. Call awful losses off during the injury and post injury. It's probably, but yeah, of course, the key moments the injury. But here's the thing. You guys know this about me sports or otherwise, I'm a history buff. This is how the NBA works eighties moments in time that four can the road for LeBron. How skip brings all the time. And he's not wrong in some regard. The Ray Allen shot. If Ray Allen MRs that shot. Lebron doesn't have a chance to thirty seven and twelve in game seven and the heat blueprint is considered a failure. On the flip side the game. We were at after the Cavs won their first title if Kyle Korver hits his shot back low just wrote a whole story about this. The great NBA finals we missed out on because Cairo's playing at his best level. Lebron's like, what would the narrative of been if corporate makes that shot if the Cavs beat the warriors with Durant, and then you're on my side on the guy m j I was there for a bunch of. There was a bunch of times he passed two guys wide open, and they not bound shots that being Steve Kerr that being John Paxton B J Armstrong Hodges men, they not downsized. So those were shots to that changed the narrative, we're in New York City. How differently do people remember, Patrick Ewing? John Starks shot in game six isn't blocked by king and they win that title. How differently? Do we remember Chris Webber in those kings teams have page doesn't arable the three in the corner in game seven of the two Western Conference finals like this is what basketball is it is moments in time that we build narratives around one on won't say random, but one incident and the bronze was he slipped on floor and tours growing and now it's while you missed the playoffs in your prime. Are you going to get a free agent? How how good of a leader are you or should the Lakers trade you that? Hey, listen, it's not unfair. That is how basketball works. That's by the way football like how many what is the narrative on those bills. Teams. If Norwood makes the first field the field goal in the first Super Bowl. Like, this is just how sports are Alexa, stench of you know. But I mean, that's just how it is like nobody should pity. The lakers. Right. That's what happens and created by small tiny things or decisions or moment and less less point. We never think about the things that didn't happen. How many times bronze crudity avoid the wet spot? How many times could have torn is growing where those have been championship seasons this championship season either way. So like that's just what happens now next year. Don't slip on the name. What's spot make the playoffs? See what happens more the story. Keep things dry. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. 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