17 Burst results for "Laurence Walsh"

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:16 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

"To stretch the truth is such that they're worried about him going in an interviewing with a law enforcement officer which is an astounding proposition well if this is the case in let's say muller requests or has requested this interview in the president follows his lawyers advice and or reported advice and does not agree to be interviewed does muller have any legal authority to compel the president to cooperate he certainly does he can subpoena the president to cooperate and force him to testify and ordinarily you wouldn't be at you can't always for someone to testify any individual because they have the fifth amendment privilege against selfincrimination but the president's own legal theory is i'm the president i can't be indicted i can't be subject to criminal prosecution lama sitting president he doesn't have that argument available to him under his own reasoning so i do suspect that there would be a fight a courtroom fight it would go to the supreme court and i don't think that there's much of a chance that the president could win that fight that is in our american system particularly since watergate the supreme court has said no one is above the law including the president of the united states and has forced the turnover of materials um and in that case and presidents routinely testify in criminal cases you know george w bush did it with valerie plain bill clinton did it three times with ken star a gerald ford did it with respect to a testimony of out of charles manson follower in ronald reagan i think is perhaps the most important precedent you know during ran contrary advice very similar allegations that the prosecutor was biased politically laurence walsh the independent counsel and that the president was exercising his core constitutional foreign policy powers by the investigator with laurence walsh said no you gotta turnover your stuff including private personal diaries and the president's spokesperson marlon fits water said these are quote very personal in nature we won't turn them over executive privilege all sorts of stuff when reagan found out about that here's what he did he overruled all of his lawyers and said absolutely we're gonna turn dover in the moment sent out john sent outfits water to say quote the president wants to get to.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:16 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

"To stretch the truth is such that they're worried about him going in an interview in with a law enforcement officer which is an astounding proposition well if this is the case and let's say moeller requests or has requested this interview in the president follows his lawyers advice than or reported advice and does not agree to be interviewed does muller have any legal authority to compel the president to cooperate he certainly does he can subpoena the president to cooperate and force him to testify and ordinarily you wouldn't be at you can't always for someone to testify any individual because they have the fifth amendment privilege against selfincrimination but the president's own legal theory is i'm the president i can't be indicted i can't be uh sub to check to criminal prosecution lama sitting president he doesn't have that argument available to him under his own reasoning so i do suspect that there would be a fight a a courtroom fight it would go to the supreme court and i don't think that there's much of a chance that the president could win that fight that is in our american system particularly since watergate the supreme court has said no one is above the law including the president of the united states and is forced the turnover of materials um and in that case and presidents routinely testify in criminal cases you know george w bush did it with valerie plain bill clinton did it three times with ken star a gerald ford did it with respect to a testimony about a charles manson follower in ronald reagan i think is perhaps the most important precedent you know during ram contrary we had very similar allegations that the prosecutor was biased politically laurence walsh the independent counsel and that the president was exercising his core constitutional foreign policy powers but the investigator with laurence walsh said no you got turnover your stuff including private personal diaries and the president's spokesperson marlon fits water said these are quote very personal nature we won't turn them over executive privilege all sorts of stuff when reagan found out about that here's what he did he overruled all of his lawyers and said absolutely we're gonna turn dover in a moment sent out john sent outfits water to say quote the president wants to get.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KKAT

KKAT

01:41 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KKAT

"I think he's dome and new you can't even answer simple questions from it special campbell no no no no here's the problem the special council has not their office has not established any serious credit kit that an underlying crime had been committed to even justify this investigation number one so in less than let's say they are going to provide some information that severely narrows any line of questioning that is going to take place and only if there is a clear understanding of what the underlying criminal actor predicate would be i would never advise the client i was a white collar criminal defense dirty i would never advise the client to walk into that ever and is the reason that laurence walsh who was independent counsel during during a irancontra they they agreed with reagan lawyers to uh submit questions in writing that's about the only thing i would agree to and only that uh would be agreed to if it was a narrow scope the this is this investigation i am as is is now officially from from what i know today is is an investigation in search of a crime that is terrifying because they can put almost anybody i'm calling some and they will they will find a way to say that they'll say well mr president you ever you know do you ever remember uh you know uh meeting uh carter page interviewed carter page last night on on my show well now i i don't rem may now i didn't i never met for carter page well that funny because we have an email that was sent three years ago that a looney toon.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on Super Station 101

Super Station 101

02:07 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on Super Station 101

"Should have done it that way but whether he is constitutionally allowed to fire of course he is if he believes that there is a distraction inside the government that is going to prevent the government and specifically the fbi from doing what it should be doing to stop the real bad guys then in our you can't i mean i couldn't imagine how frustrating that would have been for him again doing it the way he did it like writing a writing that letter he wrote to call me in comey didn't even know what was happening is number you without giving a speech in california when he found he found out he was fired it's never good to find out you're fired on television relooked at someone whispered uh you're fired then he rushed back to washington at this you don't you don't want to grind someone into the sands i don't think that was handled right clearly wasn't handle right you know what i would add now at call me i would have liked made him ambassor to togo or something like that american samoa or the seychelles isn't if something we could do is kick him up stairs or sideways or anywhere but they didn't decided to do it that way and so here we are all these months later and you know they've jackals are you know closing in on donald trump and he sister guys okay on pavin to talk to him if the lawyer said it's okay i'm happy to talk to him a friend of mine who worked on the at the white house counsel's office during the reagan administration during the lawrence walson olaf's investigation uh you know the entire of iran contra all that stuff laurence walsh worked it out with reagan that he would submit written interrogatory is to the president and the president responded to the written interrogatory there was no on camera qna with reagan that's not how it worked i submitted questions and the questions were answered in writing now i think it might be harder for president trump to do that because there have been so much in the way of and their history since then and we had the.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on Super Station 101

Super Station 101

02:07 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on Super Station 101

"Should have done it that way but whether he is constitutionally allowed to fire of course he is if he believes that there is a distraction inside the government that is going to prevent the government and specifically the fbi from doing what it should be doing to stop the real bad guys then in know you can't i mean i couldn't imagine how frustrating that would have been for him again doing it the way he did it like writing a writing that letter he wrote to call me in comey didn't even know what was happening use number he without giving a speech in california when he found he found out he was fired it's never good to find out you're fired on television relooked at someone whispered uh you're fired then he rushed back to washington this you don't you don't want to grind someone into the sands i don't think that was handled right clearly wasn't handle right you know what i would add now at call me i would have like made him ambassor to togo or something like that american samoa or the seychelles isn't if something we could do is kick him up stairs or sideways or anywhere but they didn't decided to do it that way in so here we are all these months later and you know the jackals are you know closing in on donald trump and he's just a guys okay i'm happy to talk to him if the lawyer said it's okay i'm happy to talk to him a friend of mine who worked on the at the white house counsel's office during the reagan administration during the lawrence walson olaf's investigation you know the entire of irancontra all that stuff laurence walsh worked it out with reagan that he would submit written interrogatory to the president and the president responded to the written interrogatory there was no on camera qna with reagan that's not how it work they submitted questions in the questions were answered in writing now i think it might be harder for president trump to do that because there have been so much in the way of and their history since then and we had the.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

"The same time and we saw this you know this rarely in iran contra because oliver north was invited to testify is part of the senate investigation and he was then later convicted by the independent counsel laurence walsh and north then went and challenged him his conviction and said hey that's not fair i was forced effectively to testify in the senate i had an immunity agreement and now the eu walsh prosecutors you took what i said in the senate and used it against me in violation of my fifth amendment rights and the court agreed and nullified aspects of the conviction and so um you know this is always a big concern when you have this and so in some ways the senate by not doing as much as i know that they're getting some criticism for not doing a lot in the investigation but there is a way in which at least some of it might be responsive to what muller himself is asking and saying look i don't want you to put those witnesses up there because if you put them up there might compromise my own investigation i guess is alcott khatau in 1999 he he drafted this special council regulations defining the powers and limitations of the physician robert muller is now operating under those regulations we'll talk more after a break and kentucky or will review a new box set of performance as recorded in the 1950s at the country music showcase the louisiana hareide i'm teary gross in this is fresh air and through.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:31 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

"The same time and we saw this you know this rarely in iran contra because oliver north was invited to testify is part of the senate investigation and he was then later convicted by the independent counsel laurence walsh and north then went and challenged his conviction and said hey that's not fair i was forced effectively to testify in the senate i had an immunity agreement and now the view walsh prosecutors you took what i said in the senate and used it against me in violation of my fifth amendment rights and the court agreed and nullified aspects of the conviction and so um you know this is always a big concern when you have this and so in some ways the senate by not doing as much as i know that they're getting some criticism for not doing a lot on the investigation that there is a way in which at least some of it might be responsive to what muller himself is asking and saying look i don't want you to put those witnesses up there because if you put them up there might compromise my own investigation my guest is nia khatau in 1999 he he drafted this special council regulations defining the powers and limitations of the physician robert muller is now operating under those regulations we'll talk more after a break and kentucky will review a new box set of performance as recorded in the 1950s at the country music showcase the louisiana hareide i'm teary gross and this is fresh air.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on Fresh Air

Fresh Air

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on Fresh Air

"Take up that investigation and somehow that information will come to light i mean rosenstein might even invoke the whistleblowers statute which allows you know good government employees to go to congress and even reveal classified information if they have to two appropriately cleared members of congress and so there's a lot of different possibilities here uh for you know uh some sort of checks and balances against uh a presidential move in this regard but certainly the president's whole attitude in demeanor to word it has been on the president and the tweet last week he said i have the absolute right to do whatever i want to the justice department so i don't know if this is outside of your view are not let the house endless senate have intelligence committees that are also investigating any connections between the trump campaign and russia and russian interference in the american election other things if they can do that would make it did a called for moller to pursue his investigation absolutely and you know this is something you have to worry about when you have kind of rival investigations going on at the same time and we saw this you know this early in iran contra because oliver north was invited to testify is part of the senate investigation and he was then later convicted by the independent counsel laurence walsh and north then went and challenged his conviction and said hey that's not fair i was forced effectively to testify in the senate i had an immunity agreement and now the view whilst prosecutors you took what i said in the senate and used it against me in violation of my fifth amendment rights and the court agreed and nullified aspects of the conviction and so um you know this is always a big concern when you have this and so in some ways the senate by not.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:31 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Congressional yes sagacious well two to varying degrees of seriousness you have you have i would say the most serious which is the senate intelligence committee chaired by richard burr of north carolina mark warner is the ranking democrat i i it from virginia they are i think doing a serious eight investigation you have the somewhat more comic house intelligence committee where it's not even clear which republican his entire his if it nunez is heath what elliott's or is it gouty well well no county is judiciary the jr analogy is still a different committee iraq uh a i'm i'm blanking on the guy's name who sort of took over when nunez when a little too bizarre mob ah but but it's a deeply partisan and not terribly functional investigation then both the senate and house judiciary committees are doing some kinds of investigation but i think the long and short of it is we are not gonna learn a great deal of from any of these congressional investigations in part because of the pervasive partisanship i think the senate intelligence committee though most of it his secret at this point will in our disclose some things but but it's pretty much a muller or nothing scenario he do they have to deferred those congressional investigations do they have to defer to muller and his investigation will this is a question that has great personal resonance for me because i when i was a very young lawyer when i was right out of law school i worked on the irancontra investigation i and i worked for laurence walsh who was the who was the independent counsel investigating bat and as many people may recall there was a investigation of irancontra by congress as well and congress gave immunity to oliver north a among others we in the air in rank in as prosecutors prosecuted oliver north and his conviction was ultimately overturned because his immunity was was judged by the courts to extend so broad lee that the conviction couldn't stand as a result of that committees have a congressional committees have by and large refrained from giving a'munity to potential targets of criminal investigations and that's been true here as well but that's not a rule that's not a law congress can still congressional committees if they are so inclined can give immunity to our targets of special prosecutors they haven't done it here i i.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

02:32 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Hill how many investigations do we have underway altogether you mean the the congressional yes igations well two to varying degrees of seriousness you ha you have i would say the most serious which is the senate intelligence committee chaired by richard burr of north carolina mark warner is the ranking democrat i said from virginia they are i think doing a serious eight investigation you have the somewhat more comic house intelligence committee where it's not even clear which republicanism charges visit nunez is what all its or is it gouty weld nor no county is judiciary the giro cloudy is still a different committee iraq uh a i'm i'm blanking on the guy's name who sort of took over when nunez went a little too bizarre knob an but but it's a deeply partisan and not terribly functional investigation then both the senate and house judiciary committees are doing some kinds of investigation but i think the long and short of it is we are not gonna learn a great deal from any of these congressional investigations in part because of the pervasive partisanship i think the senate intelligence committee though most of it is secret at this point will did not disclose some things but but it's pretty much a muller or nothing scenario he do they have to defer this congressional investigations do they have to defer to muller and his investigation will this is a question that has great personal resonance for me because our what i was a very young lawyer when i was right out of law school i worked on the irancontra investigation i and i worked for laurence walsh who was the who was the independent counsel investigating that and uh as many people may recall there was a investigation of irancontra by congress as well and congress gave immunity to oliver north a among others we in the in in ran car in as prosecutors prosecuted oliver north and his conviction was all alternately overturned be 'cause uh his immunity was was judged by the courts to extend so broadly that the conviction couldn't stand as a result of that committees have a congressional committees have by and large refrained from giving a'munity to potential targets of criminal investigations and that's been true here as well but that's not a rule that's not a law congress can still congressional committees if they are so inclined can give immunity to uh targets of.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

AM 970 The Answer

01:44 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"The policy when the political one the political one is the dossier the steel dossier the political policy one is paul ryan apparently throwing in the towel on repealing the state and local tax deduction let's take them in order what do you make of the dossier story and does that turned the muller investigation do a boomerang against democrats oh i they look i think th the dirty a it is a big political problem for democrats if it turned out to be match her if it turns out to be actively made up her thumb ultimately it doesn't matter who paid for it if if it turns out to be eight true pizza material if it if muller end of cooperating parts of it so i think it for now i think it's a good political hockey point four world president and his supporters and it get helps create avis look political all the stuff ultimately amanda mullah now in in ultimately it if the dossier if your career if the allegations in there uh are proven to be true it doesn't matter a court that straggler that completely nbc ran this week destroyed by tom winter and julia ainsley that that tony podesta is now a target of bob muller that's where i'm thinking it's a class special council case like laurence walsh like ken star they get a head of steam and they end up going everywhere that no one thought they would go and i i wonder if democrats are lawyering up chuck todd well we'll see with tawny but after you know look you did business with all metaphor and yet i think part of that web and part of that network uh and it'll eight.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KHNR 690AM

KHNR 690AM

02:45 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KHNR 690AM

"An ounce number nabbed treats our freeze dried beefeater brielle cereal fillers canada preservatives are die good for the timing and yanni treats free this week at that come here feed your dog right you've dynamic auto tune mm welcome back america chuck todd normally comes on next arabic the attorney general s requested that space and chuck was kind enough to join me now at chuck good morning to you the monitor tubing questions are the policy when the political one the political one is the dossier the steel dossier the political policy what by an apparently throwing in the towel on repealing the state and local tax deduction let's order what do you make of the dossier story and does that turned the muller investigation into to a but oh i they look i think the the dirty a it is a big political problem for democratically if it turns out to be not sure if it turned out to be yeah ultimately it doesn't matter who paid for it but it turned out to be a concrete immaterial is it if muller anthem cooperating park but so i i think that you know how good political talking point boiled and his supporters and get helps create eight o'clock politica ultimately amanda mullah now and ultimately it if the dossier it your career if the allegations in there uh are proving to be crew it doesn't matter that straggler that completely nbc ran this week the straight by tom winter and julie ainsley that that tony is now a target of bob muller that's why i'm thinking it's a especial like laurence walsh like ken star heating they get a head of steam and they end up going everywhere that no one thought they may i wonder if democrats or lawyering up chuck todd well we'll see what connie bitter the recall metaphor and you know i think that part of that web and part of that network i and eighty it'll a it the name familiar there's a soon let okay a unexpected involved in his brother john but at the much better a a lot bulbs so obviously it would depend muller somehow find some connection beyond them being brothers com but i can tell you this you know look at eight one one.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:51 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KQED Radio

"The color of money and jerry maguire when the movie begins in the late seventies seal is flying for twa and making money smuggling cuban cigars into his life comes a red headed bearded guy who calls himself schaefer played by donald gleason schaefer says he knows about the cigars but isn't there to arrest them instead he takes seal to see a beautiful little flying machine equipped with all sorts of surveillance cameras cia ounces no no the independent aviation consultants at a c on the company but after hours you were for us fake fiction the work is covert covert so anyone finds out about it the family friends even lucy lucy right as fat that of your problem all this is legal if you're doing it for the good guys there just don't get caught at jomo leeson's faces chilling when he says that it be a problem so deadpan but with so much menace widest bariseel go along the lucy mentioned is his wife yes to kids and another on the way now he can do daredevil reconnaissance over el salvador nicaragua and honduras and the cia will make him rich well he does get rich but the money doesn't come from the cia it's from the medellin cocaine cartel the conflusion sin americanmade our incredible literally but probably true i see he probably because will never know the whole story we might have if special prosecutor laurence walsh had finished his investigation of what became known as the irancontra affair but that was aborted when in 1992 the first president bush pardon former members of his administration who knew the inner workings the conference are all over american made and portrayed as stumble bums at the cia's bequest seal flies them guns then bring some of them back to train in arizona where the agency a set him up with thousands of acres of land and even his own airport meanwhile i told you it's convoluted he's making tens of millions moving cocaine into the states under the da's knows cia da atf all the acronyms get involved in the middle of it all comes nancy reagan's just say no to drugs address and the dea goes into overdrive how does the.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast

02:04 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

"Finally it is very clear that that investigation is looking quite hard at certain underlying financial transactions that the trump organization and simple associated with it and connected with it happened gauged in a abroad and public domestically as well on there are two people paul manafort and michael flynn of who clearly have a great deal of of problems before this investigation on and uh there may be others on and i think that is broadly speaking what you can say responsibly on there's a la else that you can speculate based on those but i i think that's pretty much what the public record we'll give you for the taking now what use the time rhyme so the answer to that question is very simple there is no time line there is never a time live on the laurence walsh investigation of iran contra went on for i think that set in years on v kent star investigation was similarly lent it was a it was a very long process and the reason these investigations take forever is a few discreet things one is what car criminal in the conflict whitecollar criminal investigations take a long time that's the underlying dynamic the second dynamic that is that once you in begged somebody the process of litigation takes a very long time on it's not what new somebody and then you're done great you that company and then you have pretrial litigation then you have a long trial ringing of tamils you can't shut down investigation thiel any all has done.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on News/Talk 710 KNUS

News/Talk 710 KNUS

02:05 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on News/Talk 710 KNUS

"In a broad enough mandate and rosenstein gave him the broadest mandate as possible it's almost impossible to stop yourself and and nobody can can tell me the laurence walsh did not have the most pristine reputation before iran contra and then he went way off the far i mean ages one bunkers and eventually uh reagan or maybe was bush had to pardon the people uh the the same goes with ken star ken star was thought of this is the most wonderful mildmannered supreme court of litigator and once he got in there he went wild and go wild yeah well the all of a sudden it's it's about you know monica lewinsky oral sex that the in the wet us the and if you go back and look at special prosecutors in the you know going back to the tea pot dome they started out with teapot dole but soon they were all over the place the next two or three years i mean is just inherently the one of the few things that the the citizenry has against this both seem seamus government is the fact that the justice department others have limited resources and there are there are more bad guys out there so sometimes they have to come and go well you know we need to spend more time on somebody else uh that that it's actually you know maybe murdered a few people um and that's the only limitation you have on these huge behemoths and when you give a prosecutor unlimited budgetary hired seventeen attorneys what is it job line yes it seventy turni's sue and some retail teich of the fourteen th that no ty cobb the tanzi this is not just business as usual and for you to say it is in some ways legal malpractice it is legal malpractice it sounds good right yours y'all we're happy for the grand gerald fully cooperate well will fully get people indicted switch you'll get tie yeah i i can't believe they don't realize that i mean you know and these are all uh all alphabet bells now for females you know roy and they're going to have to.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

KDWN 720AM

01:52 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

"You not a criminal investigation and the effect of that would put no effective parameters or limit on muller's investigation so yet it's true they have great a lawyer here but you could have grade you know he lawyers and if we would birth the usual presumption which you find a climbed first and then you get a warrior assigned to it what instead you say uh beer the guy go find me a crime uh i don't think you know if you're going to get a corral of lawyer and they have no limits in the home crew everything beverage gone then that that's not just it's not just wrong it's outrageous we had a conversation on special report last night that touched on the the fact that the investigation becomes broad really fast people single it has to have something to do any wrongdoing has to have something to do with the russian investigation has to be related but tell us how that ends up being kind of not true as an investigation goes on and on and on and on years and years ears as we saw was someone like a lawrence laurence walsh going after ollie north well it's worked in this case but in any i've ever seen but even in a case where you start out with a known criminal preemptive action that everybody knows eat the heart of the investigation as you investigate you start to do a background investigation on the differ witnesses who come up in the investigation you do interviews with them you put them in the grand jury if they make false statements who they do anything that you think is arguably obstructing the investigation off on attention if they tell you things but you didn't know about that turn out to lead two other criminal behaviour that you didn't know about when you started that.

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"laurence walsh" Discussed on Trumpcast

Trumpcast

01:59 min | 3 years ago

"laurence walsh" Discussed on Trumpcast

"Enact legislation that was unpopular by congress has in the early path legislation so although i like to think of our consciousness right now undergoing a stress test i think the trump administration is so far as the stress test for our constitution you know we're not having a heart attack on the wall we run on the treadmill where are our system is functioning it's under stress but its function seeking bowed other historical analogies uh i was thinking about the pardons de ended the first bush administration because bush pardon among others casper weinberger who had been indicted by the special prosecutor laurence walsh at the end of this very very long investigation i mean everybody was sick to death of iran contra by that point it was more than five years after the scandal on but nonetheless walsh indicted him and bush pardoned him and not was arguably situation in which one burgers even though bush was leaving office could have potentially implicated him men in crimes and the pardon brought an end to it y wasn't data kind of corrupt bargain well i think we need to be careful about this because there is a fascinating twist associated with pardoned and testimony of other people if i am being charged with a crime or i might be charged with a crime at a prosecutor tries to make me testify i can take a fifth i can say i refused to testify on the grounds that it might incriminate me and so i never will implicate my coconspirators under those circumstances but you know under ordinary conditions with the prosecutors do if they want to get around that is they graff the person immunity they fill look okay we promised we're not going to prosecute you now you can't play the fifth seed now you have to testify if you don't testify throw your jail for failure to testify well the same thing would be true for somebody who had been part it so if you're part and you can then be made to testify and you can't say well i don't wanna testify because it might me mian crimes because you've been pardoned for the time.

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