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The A-Side Live Chat w/ Lauren Murphy

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

1:04:25 hr | 7 months ago

The A-Side Live Chat w/ Lauren Murphy

"You're listening to medium long. I found I'm allergic to copy map. I would could not live in a world where I was not so. It's not that bad but couldn't live. I couldn't operate I would. I would be depressed. It's funny you can bring that up because I switched a long longtime and in the last couple of weeks have been like frying in Offi. You know and it's been really good. I've been loving it but this morning. I just woke up feeling super six so I think I have to go back to my team for awhile. I didn't have coffee yesterday and I thought my body was gonNA fall on Lego Five Cup a day. I'm GonNa like a five day guy and it's just pure black soul black. There's an event horizon. No Green no nothing. Just stick caffeine on my body but anyway you talk about office for an hour but people are here like this company. That's been really good to be clear really awesome. Check him out and go to my instagram. You get money off so I don't even have to buy the deliver it to you in money off if you go to the league nine instagram bio one hundred percent check it. I'm always looking for coffee. You're doing really early it. Yeah well of course. This is the live shot here. And I'm a finding dot com. Hi I'm Jose Young's host of this lovely podcast joining me. My normal Monday co host. Alex K Lee Casey Leiden. The producer director cameraman extraordinaire. Run on the scene and soundboard. Of course everyone especially Molly. Mccann loves those air horns and Lauren and Murphy is joining us. I don't know where she is. My squirrels all and there's a dog coming in hot. This is penny. I knew she was going to crash the she did. Warn US ahead of time and we said do not stopper crash whatever interview. She wants penny because any questions for Penny Penny is here to wants. Say That photogenic. And she is definitely one of the most popular parts of my instagram. She's such a goofball she's playing the cameras perfectly. But before we get into the questions Laura I have to ask our you handling Corentin life amid this pandemic down in Houston. I know we were talking a little bit for. You just moved down though not just with down there but you did move from Phoenix to shoot the Houston area. So how's life in quarantine? It honestly really hasn't been bad. I've been really enjoying this time I'm lucky because my aim obviously live with my husband. And he's a black belt in. He coaches me often. He corners in all my fights and so we have a really really. Nice Matt Room with wilmots a bunch of workout equipment so Actually this time I used to really improve some parts of my game that Ah felt needed a lot of work and it's been it's been really a lot of fun. It gives me a lot of confidence to kind of plug up those holes in my game and I'm excited. I hope I get a chance to use them in my next fight so it hasn't been bad and then a lot of the gyms here will open up for lent private sessions Every once in a while we'll get like a small group of three or four fighters together and we'll have a wrestling practice or sparring practice or something like that so it really hasn't been too bad in Texas has not been really hit as hard by the virus has a lot of The rest of the nation especially like New York City where they've just been getting hammered. It just doesn't really look like that here. Luckily and hopefully won't so. Yeah we're in team hasn't been too bad lauren. As we talked to they have young children but you you you. You have a young man. You're right you're raising a young man. I think he's in call it. He's in college now is all right. And he's not in college but he just graduated in. May alker when we moved to Houston moved back to Alaska. So he's he's not now and he was like out he loves Alaska. He grew up there. He loves the weather. He loves the Green. He has a a bunch of our family. Still lives up there so he wanted to back up there and unfortunately he's an adult so I just I couldn't stop him. I couldn't hold onto it so I had a bit. How's it how's he doing? He's doing really well. He's he was working at a At a planet fitness when he moved up there he got a job at planet fitness. And that's all shutdown right now so He's really an integrated kid is well. He's a lot of ways he's my polar opposite which I really appreciate. And so he's actually been loving the quarantine because it's like an introvert stream will like Alex said. We've had a lot of fighters on the show with young kids and they go over. How they they have to have the talk with their kids like Anthony. Smith has like the young daughters. And there'd be like Dad. Why can't I go to my friend's birthday party these anymore? And they're like well. Everyone is sick. I'm sorry so you don't have to have that conversation with an eighteen year old though so he's enjoying it during I I totally understand that and the introverts life. I kind of I kind of appreciate that as well. He's a really good kid. I'm super proud of him. He's doing really well. Casey House Corentin light for you since we last talked you're in California who's actually handled better than most states like every weekend. I ask you this. Every time always rolls his eyes like anything just like. I don't know what days today to date days days. Yeah right now that we have now that if it bills like to forty nine will happen When original forty nine was booked in the more whatever I was like in a happening and of course it ain't happening and never happened but this one feels like it's happening now life feels like there's a there's some sort of something's going on because before it was just one day another day but now there's a there's a a goal somewhat so yeah Casey. How about cats movie? Though is that we're here to talk about. I say I wanNA tell our readers. We got a key. Casey you watched cast over the weekend and set out. Some just thoughts on social media was true some questions and we're GonNa talk about it more. You should all think Lauren that we're not gonNA talk about it because she hadn't seen it so all of you who did not want to hear what the cast movie which. I don't know why you wouldn't want to you can think law and we won't talk about Jose not it either so we don't WanNa spoil it you know it's it's a real is a real all you all spoil live little spoiler okay. So lots of cats in it. Well cats or no cats Casey. Of course we have a lot of questions. I would imagine For Lauren as she's making her debut on the side so for our first for lovely listeners. What is our first question? First question this after all. This is a calculated Casey Sorry sorry sorry my my my oh I will answer. We did on purpose. The cat side low mistake on. We'll fix that. We'll fix it in post. Sorry Guys God. I will answer that question. This is what I am so sorry. I don't know how these I don't even know what these questions are blamed penny. I think penny cats questions. Yeah exactly penny into the cats movie. Yeah can't wait to watch it either. All right here we go here. We go an actual anime quest and Kelly at Camp Game Gang on twitter. Mma has a lot of great characters and some great quotes. What are some of your favorite quotes or call outs? Example Jeremy Stevens. I didn't know we were allowed to turn downfield spell Jeremy Stevens last name. I'm sorry it's a Novi whilst our Lauren. What are some of your favorite quotes? Call outs could be directed at you. It could be your calls of other fighters but what are some call outs. That standout standout in your in your mind nate. Diaz comes to mind right away. He's the man I love. The Diaz is Anna. Yeah the man in all his callouts are just I don't think they're pre scripted. It doesn't seem to me like a pre scripted off the cuffs on the fly in the moment. And that's kind of what makes him so great but because of his call outs you know. He got that really epic fight with Conor McGregor where he submitted connor in that turned into. You know the the next fight with Connor and hopefully trilogy someday He called George Mazda at all in that you know that was awesome gangster. He Ain't no west coast gangster. I love was a connor. One your favorite one. The you've taken everything I've worked for. I've liked that a lot because it was so ballsy but the the B. M. F. Call out was pretty bad ass to think they're pretty equal. Yeah I just. I really liked the way Nate Diaz. I like the way he runs his mouth but like the way he fights. I really like that guy. Yes one hundred percent genuine. And that's I. I'm with you on that Web. Anytime they is on the Mike. You have to listen. Because I think he knows WHO's GONNA call up. Everything he says is off the top set the top. I think it is super genuine. Mazar dolls the same way kind of has that character with it Alex what are your favorite call outs for not just saying. I'm just saying I. A kind of agree with Lauren. Like it's the it's the authenticity that makes the best college so good like they don't have our goal all Alexandra issues. This time. Those Ones Alex. Start over on my back on my back. We can hear you move your face. You're frozen a that's not how you. GonNa keep this freeze frame. Raymond you for a while. I've actually been holding that expression like hear me. You can see we can see now. You're you're bopping freezing. I have some bad into as I've worse Internet It wouldn't be authenticity. Is what makes a call I loved. Espn big piece. Dan So of course. I am not impressed by your performance is my favorite cousin. It's not like it's so insulting. But he the way Dsp is it can kind of come up. He didn't really mean to be and yet somehow that made it worse even more disrespectful and again like Lawrence. It's set up a big fight and continue to view and it just serves Sony purposes. So I love that clip. I could watch that clip a million times and things great great moment Casey. Your favorite call out or quote from 'em. You've been covering this for a long time so what ones stand with you. You've interviewed probably been. I can for more fighter interviews than any other cameraman on the planet. So what are some that stand up? And I've seen a person you know you guys were talking about Nick. I nate is I wanNA talk about nick? Nicosia's my favorite call out was back in the lead acce- don't be scared. Homie no better. It was when he fought caging. We know Cagey Nunes. Had just defeated Yves Edwards in Hawaii. Nick D. as was on the UNDERCARD Maybe three or four and nick had just lost a K. J. a few months. Before so. After nick one he won the bout the bell over. Eve's Nick and nate come to the cage and the nick grabs the Mike and Basically says something because cage as girlfriend was in the cage as girlfriend. His family was in the cage. He says you an engine dreary Wayne assassinate someone. You don't bring your girlfriend with you. And that was at all like yeah that makes sense. And then on a big fight in the cage. So he don't shocking. Yes so I just remember like this is so brilliant the one that the gop one. That's done for me is when he got down on his knees and begged for the rematch. Amac US because he could. That's why I doubt one was so sincere because his English wasn't where it is now so he wanted to say I I'll ask fair and square but he said alas fairly squarely and then he apologized. I'm my English. And so it was like He. He the way his broken English and then immediately apologizing for having broken English even though he just won a fist fight. And he's asking for a rematch. It was so genuine and so sincere. He didn't get the. I don't think you got the remote right away. But that's that is my favorite one because of we're talking about authenticity. I think that that defines it right there so Canadian Canadian. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I get my second favorite. Caught out was Breezy over doom. Trying to fight of getting a rematch of Alastair vring amber dooms. English was a little you know. He's still working on it so he kept calling over in he goes. You're too much cock too much coach. So then we explained to the radio show which. I think you meant cocky. The difference between Cocky Cock and was like Oh my God Lauren. What what's been the best. Call out that you've heard directed at you. Gosh I don't know if anybody's has never called me out directly I don't think so If they did maybe just like on twitter. I can't really remember. Do you guys know of anybody? Ever calling the out How's Egghead Now? That you bring it up. I A message sent to me for you. From Roxanne modify. She was on our show a couple episodes ago and we asked her. What are what are three fights? She is most looking forward to in two thousand twenty three female fights. I when she said. Where's her teammate? Joe Joe Fighting Valentina and the second one she said is me versus Lauren Murphy. That was sacrificed. She's excited for her. She has sent me this. I ask Lauren. That Roxanne wants to know when we're fighting. I want to know went to stop eating quote excessive Mexican food just keeping Iraq. Zanu good girl. No actually so you're talking about if I ever called out anybody in. I called out Roxanne after my last fight but Dana hit told us. Don't swear you're on. Espn don't swear. And I have a real big potty mouth why can't will more than like five seconds dropping f-bomb or something and so I wanted to say Roxana. I'm GONNA fight your fucking ass but I couldn't like I had to pause it. Got kind of jumbled in there and I was kind of messed up. Because you're on camera. I just got punched in the head. A bunch of times and then I couldn't swear and so it kind of messed up my flow little bit but Yeah Roxanne I don't know it's a good question. July International Fight League Vegas. Oh I don't think they're doing international fight week but We can find Vegas July. I began a even. The end of June is fine with me. But you have a Roxanne question asked answer given July Rox modifier Lauren. Murphy I love but yeah those and give it third fight. She's like those are the only two fights matter to me for the rest of the my teammate. For the belt and then finding Lauren Murphy did say every time someone could someone she thought she was. GonNa fight you instead of macy barber. But then she macy Barbara instead so it seems like every time she thinks she's GonNa fight. You never works out. She says yeah we were. I think there was a verbal agreement for us to fight previously. Because I thought I was GonNa Fight Roxanne previously and then you have got together in. They're like no. We're not gonNA have you guys fight. We want we want you to fight may see in Andrea and so that's how that worked out and then we both on those fights so it seems to make sense that We would fight each other next. Plus I think she's ranked number five in. I'm ranked number six spring Olympic center ranked right next to each other. I'm trying to break into the top five so And you know it's like if you look at the other girls in the top five right now. I think Roxanne just makes the most sense because Jessica is coming off a huge wait miss Vivants coming off a loss. I've already fought Caitlyn. She Kagan that was at bantamweight. So what we will. We will have another fight at flyweight. I would imagine And then I think Jennifer is coming off a big wave missed too and so I think that's the other four women in the top four so I don't I don't WanNa fight somebody that missed weight especially by how much those girls have it by that this to me that. It's not is so unprofessional. And it just makes it so likely that it would happen in our match that I'm not really interested in inviting those girls if they can't make wait so Roxanne's kind of only one that makes sense right now. While I think your words Echo what Roxanne was saying too because I think every fighters whose law since coming back to the UFC has missed weight. Ever likes Adjara Jennifer my and then everyone that she's fought that's made way she's want so she's like sheep you make way down and fight everyone. I was at her fight against macy when macy was weighing in Roxana a whole team standing with the media watching. And then if you go back and watch that video one macy makes way you hear a huge like pop in the background was all rock sandstone. They're all cheering barber midway. Yeah Yeah it's it's a huge deal. I think missing weight is cheating. You know and it's it's like if you can't make the weight than don't agree to the fight in especially women that have you know ten or twelve weeks to get ready. You have plenty of time to get down to a reasonable weight by it might suck and you might have to put in a lot of work and you might have to be hungry a little bit during your camp. But that's the way that you have signed we. You signed a contract to make that weight. It's like our two jobs. You make wait is the first thing and then show up and fight is the second thing and making wait is like the first step to that so it really drives me crazy when people miss wait. It drives me nuts because I know how much I suffered to make way like. I really really have to watch what I eat out. I Diet really hard I have I hired a nutritionist to help me through camp. So I'm paying money to make weight and then these other girls will just miss by like six pounds or seven pounds in. It's a huge advantage for them. It's cheating and here. I am literally paying a guy to help me make wait. You know so it just it. It drives me nuts to know that There's not a bigger penalty for missing weight. Is there a is there? An amount of weight missed that you would definitely say. I'm not fighting. This person like two pounds over three pounds over five pounds over Does depends who it is he. I would just depend on stituation Like when we fought to Jara because she had missed weight she missed weight for every fight she had except for me but it just it just would really depend like with somebody likes ajar. It was like okay if she misses. Wait by one pound then fucker like I don't. She doesn't deserve to fight. You know what I mean. That was kind of how we reviewing it and that she made wait so it was fine. We're able to proceed with the fight but it just depends like if are chronic. Wait Mr Depends on another. Last performance depends on where the ranks Like what the what the like the consequences of the fight might be Fight where like maybe a contender ship position is on the really big deal you know was also like in Las Vegas. There's like a five pound weight limit. Miss Right Casey. That's what happened with the guy. Gedalya daily Grasso missed way in cloudy accepted it but then Las Vegas because she had missed weighed by too much. Yeah some of the commissions will do that and then sometimes to just make it into a catch weight so that the other fighter doesn't have to make weight but it doesn't really matter because if you have somebody that you guys you're that that's a lawnmower in the front is that okay If somebody gets to carry around a lot of weight their entire camp it makes a big difference. You know you're all fueled up all your cardio sessions you're all fueled up all your sparring sessions. You get to exercise having that much more power like it really when you're carrying five six seven extra pounds through your whole camp that your opponent doesn't have the luxury of carrying it makes a big difference in the fight to since you meant so. I have to ask you because we're not the people to answer this question When Jessica I missed waiver reasons why I think by a significant amount like five pounds or something zinc sixty six She said it was because of her lady issues Is that an excuse or is that no if you Prepare for a weight cut. That means that you're GONNA be well hydrated right so when you prepare for away cut. It's a lot of water loading in dieting. And then the last week leading up to the weight cut. There's a lot of little tricks that fighters do like. Maybe they'll take carves out of their diet or fiber Obviously we dehydrate ourselves. But if you have the water in you it will come out by if you work you will sweat in that will come out your period doesn't magically make you stop sweating. It's not like that especially not. You don't have six pounds of period in you like ridiculous but I think that that is a excuse that women often used when they miss weight and I get that like you might be a little more bloated Like when you're pm or something but To me I've made wait before while menstruating in it. It's like if you work. You will sweat if you sweat. Then you will lose weight period period. Get it period funny. Oh my gosh well well said because like you said we've heard we've heard that we've heard that brought up a lot when one fighters miss wait so Kinda go okay. Like what am I gonNA? I don't saying I'm glad you. Can you imagine if you try to comment on that? Casey tweeted something about it. You'd be done all the men in you know. Mma is mostly men all the men are like they can't say anything about it you know so women have. Kinda they use it. I think they use it as an excuse to not make quit. Sometimes when really the problem probably started for them weeks before you know if you have to fight at one twenty five and you weigh one fifty three weeks out from your fight. You're not gonNA make wait period. You know so period comedy gold. What is are not exact question by question on auto boxing When she was GonNa Fight Lawn. And that's how we got there from sportsweek. Mma Lawrence said that she came across. Emma made by chance when taking her son to a Ju Jitsu class what does she think should be doing now if it weren't for that also as she ever spoken. Eddie Alvarez since tough Well if I hadn't found MMA you know I don't know In a Lotta ways. Mma changed my life so so much. Because when I when I started this sport I was. I was in school To do a job that I really didn't WANNA do. I was married to a different guy. I didn't really like and I just had this. I was kind of Surrounded by people living this life that I didn't say I didn't enjoy it but it just wasn't for me and when I started Jujitsu May Is I started eating better I used to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day and so I quit smoking. Obviously because I wanted to be good at sport I started surrounding myself with really motivated athletes. That were chasing a dream and I've never really liked. Been around people like that before you know. I'd never really played a sport before. Been an athlete so It really did change my life like coops Lee and if you guys were to see who I was ten years ago it's like almost unrecognizable from the person that I am today really high Completely different life than than I had when I first walked into the gym that day and Yeah who knows what I would be doing but I don't think it would be good. It would be. I don't think it would be nearly as fulfilling. I don't think it would be nearly as exciting. I wouldn't be as proud of what I've done. You know there's just I can't imagine what it would be like if I hadn't become an athlete and as far as Eddie do we need to Do we need well. Let's explain to anyone who isn't aware of the history. Eddie and Lauren. Just very quickly He was your coach on the ultimate fighter. Eloquent twenty six and things philosophically. Let's put it nicely. People can bypass if you want to go see the drama that that was developed net show and as you. I think you're leaving his team. You want to go the other team Is that right because of again. Disagreements you guys had had In one darkly hilarious moment for us He could he confused you with fellow. Cast Mate Bar Pontiac and called you. Barb discussion involved barb. So there was some kind of rational but it was very rude of him and he called you bar and it was a very fiery Sort of departure from his team so obviously everyone wants to know what happened after and as this question says have you guys spoken. Since what's what's GonNa hell no fiber saw Eddie. Maybe I would speak to him just to fuck you think maybe any Edie Edie was And he was just a really bad coach like and I think maybe part of what I did was. I had my expectation set so high. I thought he was going to be the amazing coach in amazing person in Eddie's really just an athlete you know what I mean. He's not. He's not a coach and he's not a good coach for sure But there was a lot of things that happened on ultimate fighter that that don't get aired. There's a lot of things that don't get aired. That happened that I thought were really upsetting that. I thought were really disrespectful He was really really unkind to a lot of the women on that show Not just me but a lot of the women. I just happened to be the only one that would speak up or say anything about it. And so that is the part that made it on air but Yeah there's just I. I saw that question on twitter. I did start thinking about tough. I haven't I haven't really thought about Goldman fighter in a long time but I started thinking about it after I saw that question. I don't know I just I would do tough again. I really enjoyed the experience there. I loved meeting all the women. I still keep in touch with a lot of women from that show to this day. But Eddie was He was just a really bad coach and he was kind of a bad person he he did some really really hurtful things that just never made it on air so unfortunately. I could talk about it now but when the show was airing people just didn't get to see that so. Yeah so Did you I mean. Do you feel like it was it was just a misunderstanding or I don't know how much You know certain certain coaches and certain fighters trained with with women. I think some have more Spanish than others so I can't speak radio. I don't know a lot. Women are not. Did you feel that there was a misunderstanding on that level? Maybe Again? I I wasn't in the House I can't tell it was more like more like he treated us like we were all jokes like like we were just little girls with our stupid little game for our stupid little competition and you really degrading towards us. So like some of the things he knew if he talked a lot about the women even the ones on his own team to the other women on his own team so if like like when one woman would lose a fight as soon as they walked out of the locker room he would talk to the rest of the team about how they were quitters. They didn't along. They weren't good enough to be there. They shouldn't be there You know I lost her fight and then the next day he was like you know she's not cut out for the sport and he was telling my teammates that about me And that's not just me Keith. That all the women One of the other things like that came to mind was Like there was sober. Aerial back had a panic attack. You know and I know. She's stoppable panic. Attacks and and Eddie actually went in there and comforter and was like talking to her but the the thing was that he this of all the women in the House and circle with with the Red Marker. He put a big Red Circle around the girls that he thought could win the show and he put a big red x through the faces of the women that he thought didn't have a chance and aerial was one of those women he put a big red extra face and then he left that list sitting out for all of us to see you know what I mean and so she knew all season what he thought of her. She didn't want to go to practice with a guy like that. That thought that of her set thought she had no chance and that she wasn't a good fire. Obviously Yahya There was just all kinds of stuff that he did. He came to the house tonight. Okay we live in a mansion sixteen women living in a mansion and he came to the House for night with a friend of his. That wasn't even a coach on the show. Just a random guy that none of us had met. He got drunk with his friend in. Our House watched that we weren't allowed to watch and then let it never interacted with any of us. It was super disrespectful and just like really bizarre and so none of that kind of stuff makes it on air but those were the kinds of things that were really upsetting to you. I just felt so disrespected in so like that. Competition was for the. Us Belt death literally my dream and it's been to which makes it even worse because you would think a guy like that that aspires to be the champion and had been the campion would understand how badly we wanted to win. That competition and that that is not a lot to me. I felt like I was under a lot of pressure. I was one of you that hit already. I think just Roxana and I had already been in the AFC so there was all pressured of reform and do really well and I think Eddie knew that and I think he knows what that feeling is life and he's talked about it a lot and instead of helping people that were in his same position instead. He chose to humiliate them into me. That just seems so wrong. So when I left the team There was a scene of knee like handing him a card and the card. I thanked him for everything that he had done in told him. You know thank you for taking the time to coach us. Stay on it. It's not easy to do you. Unfortunately like I just think you know going get you the best thing for me. I wish you so I would do all that again. You know I would act in exactly the same way. I feel bad for the women that didn't get to experience. What a great host. Dustin was great coach Trevor. Wittman was because they were awesome. They were so good and I'm really really grateful that I got to spend some well. People always want to know more about the financial. We'll see about that particular story so guys. That was a story there too. That is Dana White. Said on an ask me anything on Reddit over the weekend that Oh he said he said we never cut any of the good stuff everything you see on the show is everything you know that you guys WanNa see so. That's one side of the story. Now we've got the story of Lauren. Someone who's been on the show so I'll just say fans Make of that what you will you know you guys can make your day. Dana said that they don't they don't put out the good stuff interesting. That's just what he said. It's a forty minute. Show about commercials and they shoot six thousand hours. I'll put other stuff. It's garbage case carpet. You don't need to see you don't need to know all right you don't see and another thing that I didn't really realize about the ultimate fighter in this also mind mistake You know that it's meant to build up characters for people to get invested in when they go into the UFC. You know what I mean so you watch the show. You meet all these new faces. That are anime that maybe fans haven't seen before they get to know the personalities and then when those fighters go into the UFC following behind them they have their their stories out there already and so it makes sense that when people win the ultimate fighter. They're portrayed in a very good white and people that don't win on the show are pretty expendable and so me being a little bit older having already been in the UFC not having had a great run at one. Thirty five. And then losing in the first round of ultimate fighter. I put myself in a position where I was very very expendable to the production crew. So I I hope that makes sense in that. That part is my fault. I did not perform well on the ultimate fighter and if I had performed better I think I would have had I think they would have portrayed me in a better light but it's my fault for not performing when I needed to well now number six in the rankings. So it's really great so we'll go father with all that said. Lorne you but you said you would do it again though I would. I would like to go back and do it. Better for one thing I'm actually kind of excited about the opportunity to maybe fights at apex or something with no Audience because it will be a lot like the ultimate fighter and to me. It's going to be like a chance to do it again and do it better this time. Like I want to show the world that I've learned from my mistakes and You know I I. I've not only learn from my mistakes that I've improved so much that I can go into a situation like that and perform really well. I do hope I get another chance. But like the ultimate fighter. I didn't get along with Eddie but I did get along with all the other women still keep in touch with a lot of them to this day. I made some really great friends and I did have some really cool experience on their. You know living in a mansion like that In just being on a show like that is a really unique and wild experience in. I like that kind of stat so I would definitely do it again. And I'd like to go back and do it better. Will a court will cases. You took that photo at the Apex Casey of the of the deal to find fighter time line and said like it's done to two thousand eighteen like I had an end date so they don't want it says it's going back but why put an end date on the ultimate fighter if it if it is in bad he'll be back. The question comeback. Tombstone the birthday in when it died. And it's right there on the wall so I'm like the first time you see when you walk in. It's very strange next all the jerseys But Casey any other questions. That was a very long but interesting. Answer wouldn't be out of. We didn't get along tangents fun. Another question Cam Kelly besides hard work what personality traits do believe helped you become successful in. Mma. This is a question of course directed. Lauren known cares about our hard work. Institute stubbornness for sure. It's gotta be just stubbornness and your me like I hate being bad at stuff and of course anybody that starts a sport is going to be bad at it in so I just wanted to improve so much that I kept coming back day after day. It's still what keeps me going back day after day. Because every training session you make mistakes. And that really motivates me to go back and fix those mistakes just like we were just talking about the ultimate fighter. I WANNA go back and do better because I made mistakes the first time on the show and so I I kind of feel that way about every training session where it's like. I have a sparring session. And I'll know what I did wrong or all know bike why I might be having a hard time in a certain area and so to me. It's really important to get better in those areas and I love seeing improvement so but yes stubbornness I guess. Probably one of the most important traits. A fighter cap stubbornness above talent. That you have. I gave up on things really easily. So Miami career never took off from Joseph Boza in the U. Two comments. Will she take a short notice? Fight in the in this current climate in the AFC if the UC asked her to fight with no camp. So would you take a fight with no CAM In this current Utah you talked about a little bit the beginning your situation's a little different some the fives fat on while you're still able to train we corey San Haganah. He's basically said his his girlfriend was holding midst for him and she'd never held and his in her life. So it's been a little rob you've still he's like I'm cutting weight. Justin cates Josie Aldo can make the states and my only training partner is. My girlfriend has never trained to her life. Your situation is a little different so given that would you take a fight in the sea on short notice given the current climate? I don't now if I could make wait. I would seriously consider it but like I said I work really hard to make weight so short notice fights sometimes aren't even possible for me because I just simply make weight in a short amount of time. but If I could make wait like if I was like super in shape and just staying super close to weigh in offered me a short notice. Fight I might. It's hard to say I. I took a short notice fight once at Bantamweight. Against Caitlyn Kagan and I ended up losing that fight and then I didn't get another contract. It was last fight on my contract. So it Kinda put us our case to my mouth about taking short notice bites you know. Why do it if there's no if there's going to be a benefit but the other thing to think about is like where we're ranked? What is the you know? I'm not going to be fighting. Roxanne on short notice where the consequences of the fight could mean a bump up in the rankings. Or am I going to be fighting somebody? Who's opponent just fell out and maybe they're ranked a little bit lower. It just Kinda depends on what the story of the fight is going to be the biggest Factor in that is whether or not I wait so if you were like comfortably on a you know if you felt you were constantly make weight And you're gonNA find someone who is higher than you in the rankings. What would what's the lowest notice you would take like a week? Two weeks like what's considered like extreme. Well when I thought Bar Pontiac I was on. I was on weight but At the finale actually did not have a fight. Vate right yeah. They pulled me like I had a fight in as Priscilla Kashmira and She ended up not being able to get a visa in. So I beg MIC. Please let me go to the finale. I'll make weight and is it. I just know one of those girls is GonNa Midst. Just trust me on this. And so they they did pull me in that fight we just to make weight and then after weigh in they said okay. You'RE GONNA fight farm haunt Jak and that's probably the shortest notice. I've ever had which opponent I was. GonNa fight you know after weigh INS. Then I found out who is gonNA fight but Yeah I mean I feel like I'm in a good spot with a UFC right now. Coming off two wins. I like the contracts that I'm on quite a bit so I I would. I would really consider a fight on a week's notice your two weeks notice or three weeks notice as long as I could make waiting case. Forgotten Lauren. You did beat your namesake by split decision. I believe you to win so yeah I did. Yeah that was one of the best performances. I think I've ever had. It was a really really great experience. Namesake thank you for the question. Joseph Boza I'M GONNA explain it out to another cats question for those of you who just listening of cats from Zana fide longtime comment. If Ronda Rousey is not the goat why every possible breakthrough female prostitutes Referred to as the next Rasi has tag spilling the has tied the a side so First question is Ronda. Rousey the greatest female fighter of all time in your Lauren. She's one of them. It's right I really liked the interview. That George saint-pierre did recently where he said. The idea of the goat is like not. It's not real you know. There's always a bigger fish out there somewhere Even the people that are the best in the world right now are getting their asses kicked in their sparring rounds in the gym by somebody. You know. There's a lot of people out there that don't even fight that are amazing fighters. So it's really hard to say who the greatest of all time really is but Rhonda did something that nobody else could. Do you know what I mean. That's pretty important. I I hate to see people bash Rhonda online now because she was such an amazing force in women's MMA. She changed the game for all of us. I mean she was like shattering. Records shattering glass ceilings. She was doing things and going places that nobody envisioned a woman in MMA. Do and so. I think that's why prospects are often referred to as the next Ronda Rousey because they're seen as these great forces that could be You know shattering the next glass ceiling. Whatever that is but Rhonda was the first to do it in so I love a man Nunez. She's definitely the best in the world right now. She has been for a long time. I think she will be for a very long time. But Rhonda pave the way for all of us have Rhonda hadn't come along wouldn't even be a women's division in the UFC for any of us to fight in you know. Then she blew through the top ten. I mean people forget so quickly we're having discussions about how many men she could beat in the in the men's divisions you know we were talking about whether or not she could she could beat like Canes Alaska's I think or something like that like she was really forced to be reckoned with MMA and it was not just your skill set it was also a personality and the way she carried herself and I think it's really admirable. I'm Rhonda Fans be honest with you. Put start competing at one thirty five and you had a pretty special and I think you were doing really well in Invicta Did you ever find yourself in a deal with expectations not necessarily being called? I don't know if you've ever called the next Rhonda but again being you're in her division. Did you ever hear anything? Like Oh Lauren. Like how high would expectations for you as you kept winning and winning and winning before you came to the OC actually this. Kind of the opposite. I felt I felt like people like she said you know I I. I wasn't doing judo from the time I was here. Kid haven't been boxing. Since I was eat I wasn't even an athlete and When I can eat it in INVICTA I had only been training like three years when I won the invisible. I have literally been an athlete for three years. You know and House competing against these other women that have been training for many many years longer than me and So a Lotta Times I would get this like like I would get like from coaches and comments online and comments from teammates and they'd be like Oh my God like you're so raw but I was just really tough I was super stubborn was really scrappy and That that was Anna why I think I was able to be so successful for a while and then when I got the UFC It kind of caught up with me but yeah I. I kind of had the opportunity where I think. People's expectations of me were actually quite low. And it Kinda go because I was so raw in the sport in I had three for such a short amount of time. Non Casey you and I have had this go go casey. I was like Oh What were the What was the difference as a fighter when you fall Invicta at the time when you file an Invicta like what would what the jitters different with this. I know I know. Obviously the money's better now but just as a fighter in the competition level what what was what was different within big data. I think an Invicta I was just having fun it was like. Oh this is just refined like I don't to me. It wasn't like a career in an oddly enough when I started my career. I thought okay. I'm just going to do one fight just to see what it's like. I could tell my kids about it by. Grandkids are going to have a cool grandma that did make bite once and then. I did another and I did another and then I wanNA belt in Alaska and I was like well. Maybe I'll just keep fighting till I lose. You know like it was really just like a game. I was like this is just a fun little thing I'm doing in all the way through INVICTA. That's how I felt about it I was like just fight till I lose so I guess part of it was that I didn't take myself so seriously. I didn't really feel a lot of pressure. I was really really just having fun and enjoying the sport end Enjoying finding out how far I could go and once I got the UFC. I did feel a lot of pressure and I started thinking. Maybe I'm not good enough to be here like maybe this isn't Maybe I'm way out of my league. Maybe I'm in over my head and that was reinforced. Kinda around me. And so my my confident started really really Going Downhill and then my performances started going down. I so interesting. How like Once you became a full on professional athlete it you Kinda Within his fun is it is it. I always like when when I'm talking to fight is that's the biggest like maybe the fans don't care about Bob always so interesting. That transition from being a hobby being a lifestyle too like okay. This is my job is that it. Was that a weird move. It was Kinda weird when I after I won the injectable I moved to Arizona and I went to the lab and the lab is a super tough Jim. It's full of superstars and so when I got there I was just getting my ass kicked every day day in and day out and I thought man maybe I just need to work harder but I've always been a real hard worker. I don't think that was the problem. I think that I was so concerned about People thinking that I was a good fighter that I was. I started really overtraining myself. I mean when I look back at the workouts. I was doing at that time. I'm like Oh my God has just so overtrained in so under confident in and that's such a bad mix for any athlete any athlete in sport. You can't be over. Trained in under confident has to be the other. You know you have to be really confident and you have to really pay attention to your rest in recovery and make sure that you're firing on all cylinders for your practices better practices. You have the better. You're going to perform and I was kind of doing the opposite. I was working so hard in doing so much that my practices were really bad and I wasn't having good sparring sessions. I felt like I wasn't doing very well at all. And I think that site I could show up. I could fight like I thought Sarah McMahon and it was a split decision and I fought list Karma Razor close like even with a Caitlyn's UK again. It was a super close fight. You know but they were all still losses and The coach that I had the time was like you're not ready for the UFC. Like you know you got into the UFC too soon. You don't have any skills. You're not skillful enough up to be there and and I believed him like that's my coach. Of course I believed him. You know Now I know looking back but that's not true it's like if you walk into the UFC and you find a title contender. Like Serra McMahon to split decision that means you belong there that means you do belong but you are good enough to be there if you go and fight somebody like Liz car moosh. Who is a title Challenger in strikeforce and the UFC? And you have a razor thin decision. That could have gone either way than you are. Good enough to be there but these are just lessons that I have to learn through my career that I think every athlete learns. I just had to learn it on a really big stage. Offense does et my answering your question. Okay do you We we had a similar conversation with Israel out of Assan. He says one of the things that separates him from other fighters is. He made all of his mistakes before he got to the DNV that he's like E- even in and out of the Octagon. He went through all the growing pains before he became who he is now. Just engaging in. I actually talked about this on the fighter And he was like man. If I could give any fighter one piece of advice. It's to lose early. You know lose early in your career so you can learn how to deal with it out of fall down yourself back up Anna. I just never had that not only had. I never played a sport but I never lost until I got to the UFC you know. And it was just a really heartbreaking for me. It was hard for me to wrap my head around. It took me a long time to separate like losing. Losing a match has an athlete does not mean that. I don't belong there. It doesn't mean that I'm not a good person doesn't mean that I'm bad at what I do. You know. It took me a long time to learn that losses really are just part of playing sport. You know you win you lose and you just have to do your best. Pick yourself up and go on to the next. But that was a hard lesson to learn even on the ultimate fighter. I was still learning it. You know it was very hard for me and Belton fighters actually kind of what I think broke me of that a little bit you know. And that's why I was able to have such a good performance against barb in Great performances really set. Ever since I've had I think I didn't perform well when I thought Jarrah but that's kind of a different story but yeah after that I really started having fun because it was like man. What are you doing this for if you're not if you're not having fun like why would you go through all of this and literally get into fistfights daily with your teammates and then with your opponents if you're not enjoying what you're doing yellow what you're saying about sort of a loss having to realize that a loss you know is not the was not the end of the world and is not an indictment of your skills and your talents kind of loose back to the the question started this discussion about Ronda? Rousey you know After she lost of course after a one loss she's a fraud she was never good. Her opponents were never good again. I'm on twitter a lot and twitter. Everyone on twitter is an expert and I know that when when a fighter loses or does this they were never good Also there definitely be scared of their next opponent. If they like shop next. Were definitely scared. We know that you know you guys. You guys are scaredy cat guys. Don't WanNA fight anybody so yeah it's funny that you mentioned that because that again that does go back to what we sort of the whole Rhonda. How easily kind of like one loss like? I'm amazed that you guys can get over just because like you said it's a personal thing but once you're a public figure and you gotta take all this crap from all these people and and this negativity and just kind of to block that out. I don't know rebound under. Go back to work again but you know my husband tells me a lot. He says it's a different kind of bravery you know To put yourself out there and to be willing to to not only lose the fight but then face the humiliation that can come afterwards. You know he said it's just a different kind of bravery that athletes have where they're willing to put themselves out there. But I think you know even like having like a like a cool podcast or or show or something like you guys. Put yourselves out there too. And then of course. Everybody on twitter and INSTAGRAM and facebook. Hasn't opinion about you guys do in in now they can tell you that opinion anonymously and it really is kind of interesting but down. My husband tells me a lot in the different kind of bravery so I try to remember that. Well didn't you hear Lauren? It's our fault that the original UC to forty nine canceled. I did hear that. Yeah sorry about that. Sorry my bad bean right. Everyone's way hut on me. I mean it's pretty powerful. You know the questions we got Casey more. This is actually is directly forlorn from Benjamin Button at Benjamin. A bunch of numbers. I'm not going to be off. Why did she leave the lab? And how's she liking Texas? This many huge improvements going to one twenty five is that because of the weight drop so two questions or measurement done. Why did I leave the LAB Last year a lot of fighters the lab There was actually kind of a mass exodus from the team at the last year. for me it just really wasn't a good fit and so we've already talked about what it was like to be really overtrained in under confidence And for me it was just a really bad mix and I I did my entire career through what not my entire career. I might year two thousand thirteen when I fought for legacy and Mike. Three fights in INVICTA I had done fighting out of Texas and I had a coach out here that I really really loved in for a lot of different reasons. I left him and I went to the lab which I don't regret I don't regret my time at the lab. It made me a much better athlete in and it. I really improves my skill set while I was out there but it just wasn't a good fit anymore end I was really. I wanted to be with a coach that respected me and loved me and believed in me and for me I felt that was going to be so important for my career And I knew that that my confidence was really really really low and I could not continue to compete like that and so When all those other fighters left the lab I left the lab to and a lot of them ended up staying in Phoenix. But I just have to have the opportunity and the means to prove the Houston so we did and I came back here. With my old coach and I started investing a lot more in my recovery. Any like she's tired of this she's going to bed. No I just. It just made sense to me to be out here. The coach to coach is actually the just really believed in me a lot. I came out here and everybody was like a very excited to have me like I just felt such a difference in so I pay a lot. Mark Mentions my recovery. I'm not overtrained anymore. I feel very confident with my skill set and it just made all the difference in so I think that's actually why my performances have gotten better but yes going to one. Twenty five is helped a lot too believe. A lot of people lost the fight ready. If I'm not mistaken. They followed Eddie to fight ready at hours. Yeah Yeah and there was a couple bandmates that stayed at the lab like Sean o'malley Mario Cuyler Phillips and they all trained with really well together. There's you know they. They still do have a good team at the lab. So all right I think we'll have our last question but this is probably the most important one cat related. Okay Tyler Rasheed. Who's excited for the fights this weekend? Laws led I cannot wait. It's the best card ever. It's the best card in so so so long I can't wait and of course. I'm rooting for just engage because love me suggest. Moody. Y'All break breakdown of invoice. Oh Shit a Tony. Ferguson's a madman so as Justin. Justin really is like a freak athlete. When we're on the ultimate fighter Justin can literally there was like a big poll. That was a support beam for the for the gym. You know they. I mean they're in all the gyms and then they usually have a pad wrapped around him so that people don't run into this poll suggesting could run up that whole and do a backflip off of it. He's he's a wild man. I think he's just is athletic. Is Tony Ferguson He's got that knockout power. He's an outstanding wrestler I'm really rooting for Justin on this. I'm sure Tony's a great guy but Tony's got real sharp elbows so I think it is going to be a bloody fight Antonis got amazing cardio for a five round fight I hope Justin can get it done early. You're excited right. Does are shaking my head When the question was I ask because I think as we mentioned before look we succeeded in shutting down April eighteen and it was a big win for them and may media and then suddenly Dana White just says no? I'm going to do to forty nine anyway. And I'M GONNA on May ninth so you can imagine how frustrated we are after putting all that work in to try and shut down all these advances shutdown all your fights you as the get paid and don't get the fight and he's. I'm not excited bites. I'm very frustrated and the media. We'll get you Dana White. Who Will Get you get you? I will bring down this economy as nine does not happen. I'm tired of having a job. He should who who needs shelter? It's not even just to forty ninety three five cards in seven days and then even one two weeks after that. So it's basically four fight guards in three weeks so in Jacksonville for people who WanNa Watch some good old fashioned fist fighting. You'RE GONNA have a lot of it. Yeah I hope I do get to fight soon. I wouldn't mind fighting in Florida the Beach. So or Fight Island. God's these islands or God or whoever's listening and beautify island I will fight anybody on roster I think the reserving it for international -siders So I know Roxanne say you're from Ireland or something. Do something girl come on. We say we said we said before the show. You're essentially Canadian. You're from Alaska. Which I consider part of Canada so they go. I am maybe a Florida. Maybe I'll Clyde for a visa just to get it denied so that go well Casey. Now that was our last question. Casey one one more actually obscure that one to do. That's one that is I. I don't know what this was. The are from Aaron Underscore nineteen eighty. Are you going to make petition to release the Butthole Cut? I don't know what this means. Casey and Alex boy the butthole cut frozen can't hear so casey I'll leave you. Sorry I love I accidents frozen. I just thought he was really contemplating the answer. The questions I started this as you said you describe it. What does the butthole cut me? Because I've seen is yeah. I'm sorry one Michael My back non-mainstream. Just ask all right. Lauren I missed. I missed the last part of your answered last question but Yeah sorry about cats so oh there is. I don't know if this is true. It's a report. I think it's fairly tight over for that. There is a and it's very well. We don't know nothing ever comes up but there is a version of the cats movie. Where yes you can see. Some for some reason they included buttonholes on the characters. All the characters that are anthropomorphized cats They're they're very terrifying as it is but apparently they were even more so in the original cut so yes that is the that is the tension. This movie she's fabulous and Idris Elba. Has Mackenzie Meryl? If you watch a movie ONODA MEANS ALEX. Kelly is amazed by frozen. Again is absolutely shocked. Why Alex you can. You can speak now. I love that I want cat processing of the butthole on it. You can imagine may fans go to Amazon prime. You can read Cats FOR LIKE FOUR BUCKS. It would be the best two hours of Your Life. Just put ever get all the all the liquor in your home. Everything but in your coffee table drink-up watch cats and just enjoy. Oh but the end Google cats movie but whole and you will see the trailer make sure you include the board movie. Don't just Google Pat while approximation does causeway her. Our fight like she likes to dress up like a dragon. Ball Z character. Maybe I'll dress up in a cat butthole costume there. You Go Saturday night cats. I love everything about it without our last question about whole ballpark out of the way we got about four more inches me during the mo the most important part mentioned has failed me execute pros at once again so. I think that's a good sign that we wrap up cases born as guest of honor. 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UF 365: Dominick Reyes, Lauren Murphy, and Derrick Lewis

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

48:49 min | 10 months ago

UF 365: Dominick Reyes, Lauren Murphy, and Derrick Lewis

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Derek Lewis Fighting Lear Latifi and that is the first fight on the main car. What an amazing car? That's happening Saturday. This really great. It's GONNA be Great. I'm reading are we talking to Lauren. Murphy I I don't know in order to be honest DOMINIC MIGHT BE I. I don't okay all it goes. I'm reading Lord Murphy like tweeted about macy easy bobber loss to Roxanne Monetary. She tweeted her. Get off the fucking Mike you Spoiled Brat. Yes she did. Did what I you know. I think a lot of them were a little irritated with macy. I don't know why I thought that Roxanne Montazeri I think basically blamed her injury more than she credited. Roxanne's skill I WANNA hear you're I want to get dominic colon is going yeah. Let's get dominant guy. I want to hear why she called her a spoiled Brat. I'm curious about that a to what's going on here. Interesting God. Fuck what does that Hannibal Lecter. He's in a massage table. What's going on whose finger take your finger dominic? Oh you understand what it would be. If I was on a massage table I could never do a skype getting a massage. Goddamn right so did you just work out or what. What are you getting massaged? I'm getting a nice relaxing massage right now. The hotel is any place particular sore. Like as your has your back bothering you or your WanNa what I say that right before the fight but the chill out so nothing bothers me. I'm just yeah just get loose man. Okay yeah like the treat myself every once in wild do you. Do you like to do that. Just go to a spine relaxing taking care of her as a purely at a physical necessity to go respond. Get taken care of actually as optus can take care of your body. You only get one. Yeah now all right. The body's doing great. How's the mind this is a a I can't see? It's a huge fight. That's under stager. Are you ready to shock. The fucking world dominic raise hell. Yeah Man I believe all Saris Fuck Angela right. It's fucking true to dangerous city for dangerous city for a champion Jimmy. Yup fucking Houston. You know and you know and talk about a night of because we also have with Valentine's I've Janko again geoghegan. Yeah what if the underdogs take it deal. Feel like an underdog I mean. Fuck Dominic your undefeated. Nobody best did you. Yeah I mean I. I'm aware I'm an underdog I'm not. There's no secret to it. I don't feel like I'm the favourite you know but I man I know what I'm capable of and I'm not worried I'm not worried one bit. How do you mentally approach fighting a guy like John who like you know? He's he's known has has been able to figure out how how to beat him. He's beaten every style of fighter everything. Somebody's thrown out. I mean he's had an answer for so mentally. How do you approach fighting? A guy who has seemed impenetrable. It's it's pretty simple Mana just got to be the best version of yourself. That's all you can really do anyway. You know I can't be more than I am. So I'm just going to be the best version of Dominic race. Yeah I have more wrinkles because I'm learning new stuff every day. I'm pretty young in sports sports. Still so it's gotta be complete gotta be complete got just gotta go. It's more of a not not like letting letting him dictate the fight and fighting your fight and not letting him say okay. WE'RE GONNA go slow right now. Okay we're GONNA go fast right now you fight how you fight. And don't let him bully you a lot of guys get bullied out there. And it's like I'm not gonNA take everything that he gets to this by he's going to have to earn. I'm not giving them anything he's going to have to take you know there's an interesting moment I think it's in your embedded and I the the show you just watched the leading up Were they were showing a clip of Jones. I think it was fighting. Gust of Senate I think Rogan said John doesn't like being pushed backwards. Like I think it was. I think it was Gustafsen. who was marching him? Backwards Elliott talking about not allowing him to kind of get into a rhythm and tell you where it's going to go. Yeah it's just it's not pushing them back it's just not letting him get into a rhythm or the. Obviously we get into a rhythm as it goes on we adapt but It's just breaking up those patterns breaking up those rhythms. You know dictating how I want it to be dictated. He's not used to guys going in there and imposing their will on him. You think he's sleeping on you. What do you think I don't? I don't think he's sleeping on me if he is. That'd be cool but he's you know he's he's a very smart smart fighter. He's not in the top for the last ten years. No reason So I don't think he's sleeping on yeah But I think he knows he knows that I'm a I'm a very actual threat to his throne. And he he said something about and it might have been on Rogan show. He said something about how he would fight a certain way to almost leave himself excusive. He lost like he didn't he didn't. It seemed very properly in shape against over Saint Pruning Forum. So I think he's made that mistake already far sleeping on somebody and you're twelve and all and the were you been knocking people out. I don't think he's walking into this not ready for what you know. I mean he knows that you could knock him out literally I mean and if not like I said better for me then he'll have to use it after the fly and then Louis rematch so this time on the east side you know. How is it training training for him? Because again he has he throws so many different. Looks whether it's at a bleak kick or or you know the fact that he can wrestle the fact that dangerous with his elbows he seems like a difficult guy to find one one training partner who can match. Yeah Bill that a little bit interesting Challenge that we face We brought in a couple of different specialists. That were taekwondo guy or you know just a very long guy or you know different style of athletes and it was interesting but You just got to be really sharp. At estimating thing it's been really sharpened understanding what he could hurt you with from Every position and then understanding what to do when you see different movement out of him as far as spends and stuff and you had expressed I think it was. There's an interview about his history of pokey. Made you a little bit concerned. Well nobody was guy. I want to see so. Oh He's kind of stories for pokes And I think it's it's less about the I folks it's more about you know if his fingers are my face then. I'm knocking to be able to go full speed. You know like how many people could are willing to run their face into some is. I mean fingers. Is You know. So it's it's more about that and not like him kind of stopped me from Glenn Pool speed by pointing fingers face. Do you think the referees have him closes hand fast enough or do you think they let it usually go a little bit longer than they should. I'm not sure I mean we'll see on on on Saturday. I don't I don't really I hope is not an issue but We'll see now I'm interested good. Go ahead Well he's I'll just say I'm best case scenario at the non-issue I'm interested in John. Jones's approach approach at this fight because dominic is extremely hard to hold down extremely powerful with punches. If if you're a betting man you'd I think he's looking to put you down. Take you down. If he wants to waste a bunch of energy. I mean he could do that green tea he's keeping he say minded minded backup so we so we work a lot of just worst positions getting out of people on your back getting out out of people mounted some people. They'll just never be mounted. Are you starting from worst positions a lot and your and your training. That's most of my training. Yes USS Shark tank style. Where it's I'm in a terrible position and then I get out and then we start with the first guy right away like over and over and over and over again? That's good Jimmy. That's good Jim. Yeah it is I mean again. He's a hard guy to train for but again so are you. And I think he's aware of your power so I don't think he's looking at you lightly so you're probably going to have a fully psychologically when when you deal with him because he was interesting to watch you guys on stage together and you said something something where you you said you think that his you think is confident for the little sugar. You said you felt insecurities coming off him. Yeah what do you think that I have no idea. I know that he was I don't know I just saw that. I I didn't see like this super powerful guy that super confident in himself in his sure of himself you know he he saw that. I'm a real threat and do the eradicate them a bit. The eyes don't lie. I mean maybe he's looking into dominates is is and saying all right this dudes maybe he sends out. This guy's unafraid to me right. And that's what you said you said he's probably look Jimmy and a lot of people's eyes and said all right right this like almost like Mike Tyson. When again I kind of like all right? This guy's this guy's before it's thoughts but he might be seeing something in this. Young Young Lions is Jimmy. It looks like he's looking to a big fucking P call though. This is a really funny because I can't look at us in a toilet seat exactly so it's kind of weird now. It looks like a woman's hair anyway. You seem ready. I mean mental. You seem I mean. Nobody ever says they're afraid before five. You seem as calm as I've seen anybody who stepped into a big situation mental. You see like you're prepared pared you've got to have fun then you're going to be serious all the time. There's a moment the life that requires different emotions they. I'm not fighting him today. Luneau enjoy enjoy every day every moment. This is it during the Harper. Their own get. I'm not going to be able to get the lock. Now do what I love. You know. When I'm older is is not going to? It's just I I take truly enjoy it and and there's I don't really see a reason to be all the freaked out and stressed out about it like I love it. Why be freaked out and and this by particular? I'm such an underdog that I get to be so free. You know I got nothing holding me back. There's nothing to lose. I have everything to gain. All I have to do is go out there and show my my whole heart you know. Yeah and I love it now. Eighty everybody's different in the locker room home fifteen minutes before you walk and maybe one or two fights before your fight. How do we feel like normally in the Locker Room Roy? Moore's IT fight the fight. You have two fights before you're up. You're watching the fight. You're in the back your team. We normally feel anxious. Nervous Service I mean we're we're a little nervous little anxious and it's it's just not knowing what's going to happen you know. It's unknown more than anything that that gets gets to me. What's going to happen like I have no idea why we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA find out and for me? It's it's a lot easier to let go and just be calm because I did everything I could have done. I trained as hard as I possibly could have trained I miss I. God gave me me tool to maximize what I what I have now. It's it's not up to me like might be is not up to me at that point and I just let it go and then go do my thing. Are you a guy that can nap. I'm always fascinated by guys that can actually nap in the locker room before they fight. Yeah I I can but Last by Get Chris I was just I was very calm and I was enjoying all the fights as laughing I was it was. I've never felt like that before. Fight before where I was just completely like just call and I was. I was sitting there like it was like a Sunday Sunday and I would just kicking it watching the fights you. My manager was like dude. Why are you so called guys the because she's awesome about if i Chris wideman you know he's one of the greats and I get this opportunity like what am I like so excited but I'm also very calm because I know on everything I could do and I know I'm GonNa win like I know I have what it takes to win? Wind I just gotTa go and do it. That's how I feel about this. You feel confident radio. You certainly seem it. Look bad and good luck to main event this Saturday Saturday in Houston Against Jon Jones for the light heavyweight belt and this is a fight it everybody was talking about this fight. You know at least two fights before it happened and so I think everybody is finally happy to see you guys Fighting for the belt. I think you definitely the The won the light heavyweight division that deserves a shot so good luck on Saturday. Dominic dom shot the world man. Yeah man where Houston oilers. Do something crazy fight all right dominate. WHO's out they say? Listen saying all the right thing seems calm and cool as a cucumber. You know John is just so uh you know. It's it's hard to read him because he does everything really well like everything he does. He figures out a way. I and I think he does getting guys heads. Monkeys dominates Dominic maybe and here's a little bit I don't know what the sixth today is the sixth. Yeah Oh by the way if if anybody who wants to watch me. I am on the Joe Rogan experience. Oh it's up and and if you WANNA watch it I don't look at view counts but apparently a lot of people have seen it in like. I hope you plug the show on it. I did I mentioned you and the Joe asked me. How can we talk for over three hours good? I met Sarah I watched it. We did We spoke nicely about you. I know I rewound that part. You did like three times. Of course everybody loves Matt. Well not everybody but you guys do and I love you guys back Jimmy. Yes I love the texts. You gave me the other night reminding me what tomorrow is and I go Jimmy it you know. First of all a lot of attention. I do understand especially for stuff. That happened happened ages. Sure by ten so when I so what I got tax saying saying how would it say it said Matt Yep and it said Matt Matt Matt it said you know what the sixers but you know what happened on February sixth in two thousand ten and I go I no well let me say thank February six. I'm trying to think what my cure you busy. Yeah what what could the anniversary. I've been married before. Then what and then then then it hit hit me Jimmy all of a sudden what you would bring it up ten years ago tomorrow. It'd be ten years ago Auro it. Ten years ten years back I knocked out frank trigg stuck deserve every time matt read Jimmy first round stoppage. I'm turning turning right because you. What was this the deal? Yeah I knew I was powerful. Would you sure but the knockout but when my fist connected with his jaw and he's feeling and I see his eyes and it was like it was like somebody like like took the wind out and it was like Oh and I seem crumble. Jump on Jimmy. I pounded on my mouth even the Christmas story and if they break it up Jimmy. Yeah I do a little handspring. Yeah remember Jimmy I do so listen to stop bringing it up but it was ten years ago. That's why it's ex ax. Thank you for sending me the text because you know what you know. It's not I don't like to dwell on past accomplish now. I know you always. I'm like I'm afraid he's not going to John on but I need your number by the way. What are you talking about? You gave you the text. That's right let's go to Lauren. Murphy Larmer you know now I wanna I is it really is. Let's introduce ourselves. Hi Matt as much show you my friend. Jimmy Bird heard that no high fat Jimmy Bird. I actually want you to say that. That's exactly ourselves so nice the age too. Nice to meet you. I didn't do it nice to meet you. Why don't you didn't do what he's GonNa say? My name is Matt and this is my fine friend Jimmy Bird so totally normal. She thinks it's a it's a radio everything is correct. Where did you? Where did you get? I grew up in Alaska. Oh really yeah. I was born in raised. There I lived there for thirty years. Probably do research before the interviews. I know it's better when we find out. Find out live. What is that like? What was it like in? I don't know if it's a stupid question where you living in like a populated area on. Oh Yeah I lived right outside Anchorage which is like a biggest city and and It was unique. It was a unique childhood because I had a lot of family that lived in the states. We call it the lower forty eight and I would go visit them and I felt so so out of place I felt like like I was from a different planet. Most of the time is that now. It was just really isolated like Alaska's very isolated slated People up their different. There's like a lot of hippies People that just kind of want to be left alone a lot of outdoorsmen that Like like want to homestead and and Like be self sufficient you know and It's just kind of a different attitude. There people are really tough there super like hardy ready they take care of themselves and It's it's a cool place now but when I was younger I felt super isolated. I always felt like way out casting way different. I always wanted to be like from a big city. You know and do normal things that people do like I didn't we just had like it. It was just different. We didn't get a lot of concerts. That came through like a lot of the the food chain restaurants. I'd never eaten at a lot of big department stores. I had never shopped. Opt at just little stuff like that that kind of made me feel like an outsider. But now now that I'm an adult I appreciate Alaska so much more and I really am proud to be the last time. So what did you do. Did you do like a lot of hunting and fishing growing up like when you're in high school I imagine it's a very small pool of people right. Yeah it it was a pretty tiny high school A lot of people are into hunting and fishing and camping. But I'M NOT I. I'm not into any of that. Shit I don't like it so Yeah when I was in high school as a big donor I just get like I smoked cigarettes and drank a lot and That was Kinda like how I pass the time you know and then When I was like twenty six I wandered into Jitsu? Jim and that's when that's when I started my career for for your son right. Sorry Yeah Yeah. He was eight and I wanted I was like I was sober them but I just wanted him to have like. It's something different. I was like. Okay your kid. When I was a kid I wish I had done martial arts like I wish I had had A? I don't know like a more active childhood. I guess and so I signed him up so I could live vicariously through them. You know what I mean am I took him to this do Jitsu. Jim and I took one class and I loved it and he hated it. That's like the irony. Any of it is that he never wanted to go back. And I fell in love with it and I started going all the time. That's so funny. Yes I guess everyone gets into it for different reasons in different ways and and that's the first time I've heard that particular story. Oh well think unique. I can ask Alaska question. I think I know one other the person from Alaska and she moved there recently. Well I want my friend Erica. She's an actress and she moved there to play and she she fell in love and married somebody and now she just lives in Alaska. And there's an actor in Alaska which is such an odd place to go to be an actor. I mean I went there for looking for a fight and it was beautiful beautiful. It was really beautiful. You know what I mean so kinda cold but it was beautiful you. I'm not sure. What if we went in the winter or the summer to be honest I would you was? This was it snowy outside and cold. Yeah I did. The Dog. sledding was fun Yeah Yeah Fisher. You were there for the winter then. Yeah Remembers Beautiful. You should go back some time like in June and go fishing and stuff. That's fucking cool by the waste. That was my favorite question. It's like I'm not sure. If it was the winter of the sovereign what was it. It's snowing and cold. And he got to be the winter mass. I guess to winter now. LASCO in Alaska where it's like like dark for like a few months. It's ask you lighten day for six months. Yeah not completely. But like Dow our anchorages South in Alaska and in Anchorage like winter solstice. It may be the sun comes up at like ten. Am and then start setting it about four thirty so kids will go to school in the dark and then when they come home they get out of school. The Sun is already starting to set. It's Kinda crazy so let's Neil's like it feels like dark all time. Truly how far north in how big is like is there a how far north into the cities go where it's actually a bigger where it's light or it's even worse than that. There's the cities all the way up. Arctic circle cold villages connection. Because we have we have another call to also. It's very hard to hear you. I but I would love to have you on again because you really interesting and your background is interesting. And we didn't even get into you talking about the doubts you've struggled with so we're going to have to get you on another time but good luck against Andrea Lee in Houston this Saturday on to forty seven. You're on an amazing card. Do you have to be happy to be on such a great card. Well I mean I wish we could do to come on again after the fight. Yeah there's a lot of stuff I wanted to ask you and we got sidetracked on elastic because it was so interesting stuff. I'd love to talk to you about. Okay Yeah Love Kulak this Saturday Lauren. Thank you for coming on with us and Ndau sorry about the reception. Thanks Lauren take one. She's so nice very very interesting too nice. I felt like we have a nice thing. We did ask to macy barber questions. We didn't ask any of this. Well fuck man. I'm here to do with that and I I didn't ask about that Alaskan refer but. She said she's sober. I didn't want to be a bad enough. We got to see if we can get you know yes to did you. The skype is a little better. If it's not on the laptop not always always gonNA be Jimmy. Yeah but it's funny. She took her son. I WANNA ask Alaska question. I'm so fascinated. I want it to be an asshole. Do you ever see a bear but I wanted to know. It's a child question. I love that Sir. Thank you I'm right next to you and I want you to live for a long time. However what if you if any if view were ever going to die of laughter but if you were going to oh I would wanted to be on the show because selfishly? That would do a lot for me. Oh wow how people would be like this guy kill the UFC champion with laughter. Like you understand what that would do for my career. I figure quick break all right. We're taking a break all right cool. We're back headlines Headlines Yet Jones blasted Raya City. They said he tweeted that John. tweet about Ray Assane. Jones fort wrestlers four strikers but never athletes. He called the dumbest thing. He's heard in a while. I think John Jones Anybody John I guess is John so he might not recognize this but people have to find something that makes their chance unique because a fighter you have to believe in yourself and what do you want to say about John. Well he's fucking seen everything you can see and and he's one so if your dominant grey is in your confident you gotta say all right. What's I look? He hasn't afforded an athlete. Like you gotta find something unique to to throw it the Guy Hi because otherwise you're gonNA walk in and this guy is what everybody in one. You know what I mean. You've got to find something to grab onto. Dominic hasn't lost yet and he's got that confidence of a guy that it hasn't lost. Neither of these guys has technically been beaten by another fighter. There you go so I mean any now that he's got to be a just confident is power. Because he's the guy I when he's easy stopping good guys man. He's got power It's hard to hold down. I think it's GonNa be interesting mainly Eh John. Jones always finds a way to win but Could it maybe. Maybe what would be interesting if is if Would be interesting if John Jones is so confident and he's still it's maybe just fucking around a little bit too much like maybe all right. I'll stand up with them all right. I'll beat him at his own game type of where you might even got caught up with that with your the fact that you keep pointing to go Santos man I mean he got a quote made. He was making that a standard battle. You know they were. They were standing there. I mean he didn't look just put them down or anything. So why is that. I mean that's not the smartest option. So maybe he's just trying to excite himself or maybe not I mean let's just saying who knows yeah and raise does hit so so hard but the thing about Jones's he throws elbows like punches. He has a way of not getting hit John. Not a guy who stands there like you know when you look like you remember you. So Roy Allison would fight. Roy was able to roll the punch and take a punch Josie had hit that much. Either he's a master at range like because he's very lanky and he knows how to use used that range. It's hard to get past. And then when they do get past the get met with Elbows Ama horrible elbows with a bleak kick. I mean Johnson nightmare that front on kicked a stomach like he just is. He's got he's four things he's throwing at you at all times. He's he's one of those guys he's not overrated now. He deserves every Lina put in front of him decisively but now he's going with a guy it's never tasted defeat. That's what makes it so interesting. Yeah Reya seems comfortable that we we have a dark lois. Let's start. What's up man? We should apologize we really. He's looking at the phone right now. Going it's what these this guy. Why do you think we stalk you own ass? He's looking at the phone right now. Going what are these guys want bothering me. Here's what it is. Where the girl that he slept with once and we won't stop bothering Jim? That's exactly going out again. And he's like I'm done with you guys all right. We Got Eric. Hi Derek. How are you stop? I apologizing yeah we we want a start by apologising. He's in the same shitty hotel. The same hotel that awful Wifi. We just had you on two weeks probably very tired of looking at us and we don't blame Um you a little bit. Yeah do you have Wifi or lt therapy. By the way. Is that the worst question you've ever been asked and if you I can't believe I just asked a a heavyweight fighter a legend who is fighting. So what's your phone plan. I really suck at this job. I'm I apologize. I'll tell Auger he looks lean. You look fucking lean. You look in shape. They're looking good shape. Our fucking miniature Verna Renault. See you're right where you want to be but yeah you do look a little You look leaner than normal. Maybe it's just the way you're sitting what you do look into the normal cutting away. If he's right there he's right. Wait lose to sixty five. She's right there. Yeah being fifty something if I water so we wanted to ask so. I'm good. You're ready of course he's ready nine weightwise so you don't have we'll talk to you about earlier Latifi already the last time we talked to you two weeks ago. So what are you watching that we wanted to ask you. What are you streaming streaming really touching on on the which they Jack Jack Ryan on Amazon Prime? Yeah how is it. Is it good pretty good. It's pretty doing real good interesting. See how I'm pretty sure it's accurate. Dan What a lot a lot of people breaking news. I heard things amount of doing. What's the movies pretty? Good Tom Book based on movies movies are they based on or is it. Was it books books. Tom Clancy books especially very around with fictional. They're pretty good though. Are you a big reader. I I used to read a lot and since I got my phone. Fifteen years ago my reading is his garbage like I never read anymore. I used to read a lot when I was in Britain and the books I as the reader. It's more like a rich stuck books. What kind like rex? Richest like Agai being poured is taking it out of the hood and stuff like that on racial wealthy guy. Did you play chess in prison or did you play before that. Oh yeah chest. Learn how to play chess. All you learn when you were there. There's some amazing level players in jail. I mean these guys who are really a great players. Because that's all they do all day is play Chassar. What's what's the crackheads is pretty good? And how long long were you in there again. You told us before I forget or bring her of year now a normal day. I know different days. You've probably got different things going on in the a yard or whatever. I don't know I've never been to prison. What's Normal Day? You wake up they tell you to get out of the bunker. I Dunno normal day in prison. Oh I guess a day in prison that you don't you're not chosen they get your own yourself rain side go ice and everything enthrone everywhere. So I'm guessing pretty normal day. That's everything the same. Every day can smoke. Norwegian prison coaches I get the sneaking in there or Gaza still smoking cigarettes smoking math all that still in the methyl rough off. Yeah that's what. I was thinking that we might make time go by a little quicker. I don't know I'm paranoid pot in jail. The the work. Yeah I was talking to somebody today. SABE working out in jail because you don't have so. Do you become amazing at like just doing body weight. Workouts like Guys doing all day to keep busy. Yeah L. They get a trash bag filling over water and do curls us on a broomstick some just do curls with that so now tell television in prison a lot of choices. who gets the remote control? Trolling the recall. What happens with this J? I WanNa know her no. It's no remote control that all real true they all get votes on shows. You get to watch everybody got all will get the house votes on same everybody wanted to watch. NBA and so they've put in requests and try to get the most vote song failing watching NBA. OR IF SOMEBODY TO WATCH SOAP OPERAS THEY WANNA put in or smile won't watch more we're putting votes for that I would have been by definitely would have been putting for Morrie I wanNA know fucking. I don't get hat. I'll all like Vegas. It's all I watch Maury. Aw I WANNA know is he the phone and not they go nuts when they are the girls yelp run out drink derek. Do you have any of your old cell mates or anybody used used to go to prison with. That sounds weird prisoner social club when you join up and go. Hey Man it's me look at you you know. Give me some money. I don't know you give people regional. Yeah they they reach out to guys reached out before it was proud of me and stuff like that and they were still calling me Dhamma prison name everybody call me Big Katie. What was then imprison be Katie Katie? Now what is that. What's that about? I want to know because breath I told him from Katy Texas and so they called me. Be Katie okay. Cad Y. K. A. K. H. O. T. O. is Katie Klty. Oh it's like it's like the Sokaia the name I thought it would have within the black beast in there. Got The black beast when I got out when I met my wife is in Colorado hanging career dairy even better. Wow more depressing. I would never little woman named me. The white the White Dud the appointment horrible. How how are you feeling Derek? And obviously you're ready you've been through this one hundred times before. How do you keep yourself from getting complacent because I mean you fought so many great fighters and not moving up? How do you keep yourself getting to a point where you're overconfident often where it can be dangerous album? Never counting him because like I said all the time this like all these guys were headed me. They've been doing martial arts. This kids and I just really started the learn martial arts like ten years ago everyone else don't all in life and it was like a lifestyle awesome so I'm still behind the game to everyone that I face so there's no I don't get overconfident at all. It doesn't article in fighting in. I know everybody division. Anything happen if the live in like that not to keep bringing up prison but what isn't like every day roses. Now that's fucking like somebody's college man. That's almost four years and you're in there and look at you now on top of the world fucking his instagram's over a million followers or I mean everybody knows you a success story but a win or lose you already already kind of been through. I mean some people would say how or are shitty period in your life. Don't you feel like a fucking winner. Now in general for shows shows like that I think about all the time whenever I look Eh beautiful cars and the side hustle businesses and stuff like that and think about where I came from the heather thing that I have no. It's always crazy feeling this light a meeting at the high no like every day every day in the morning just like a higher by itself. When you first I got out? What did you think you're GonNa do like when you when you first got got back into the real world? What did you think okay? This is what I'm GonNa do now goes excited. I wanted to be a tow truck driver on my friends came up there was working with AAA all writing base. Say They could get me all for AAA tow talk trucking so I wanted to do that and so whenever I got started doing that then while we start about doing all feel were to in so I started doing that as well and I wanted to be a box I remember Thought about being fired. I WANNA boxer. That was my goal. My audrain automobile boxer since on kid. Who's your favorite grown? Up Of course was Mike Tyson Garlan new in every now and then you hear butter being locked out. Have you met Tyson. You have since you've been fighting all by. I haven't met him but he walked past. Whenever I was at the event in Houston die in Kim? Kimble slides tasteful. Yes do you WanNa talk to him. No I didn't really know who he wasn't too. He really pays by because Shar Guy Manson sounds like maybe two guard single-day said it states ocean. So it's too late Kimble will not rush dots at us with now. Are you good at like talking like people you've admired or guys you've been a fan of Are you typically comfortable around. Like I'll freeze up half the time. Are you good in those situations. Yeah I'm good Newsletters like movie you stars movie actors and stuff like that. It's like you expect for them to act a certain way because you've seen him in a movie when you meet them in person like the guy seemed like completely Weirdo. Like I'm thinking he's going to be like a tough guy or whatever like sound. Watch the movie overman these completely three different. And how have you given any acting opportunities. A lot of guys would fight. WanNa go into acting in some in some form I was. They know I did a couple up with so with black. Lightning come on CW. I was feeling on that last year. I was supposed to go back on two months ago but I ended up having a fight The Gore Guy. Push it back a little bit so I should be may bring me back on episode. Where did you like it? Do you enjoy it while you were doing it or is it different than you expected. Yeah I like I like I like art on all you know. Have Your own trailer. Just x-ray anything they go get it they get before he was not the weird part. It's a you almost feel guilty. You want like we'll get it. We'll get it. I'm like no we'll do it and make sure I like to be in your size and the character that you are just naturally are personality driven in the the wrestling pro wrestling after fighting. No no no because I couldn't keep serious face. That's one thing that blows me away a lot too. Is They'd be doing Gotcha craziest. Though they flop around and I deprived start live has been hit just this year. Actually I like that. That's funny as sounds good. We'll look back where we appreciate your tolerating us. We love you. And you're one of our favorite guests and good luck on Saturday against a lear. Latifi I think you you guys are the opening fight of the main card or semantic can't wait yes yeah anytime man and we'd love to have have you in studio if you're in New York one of my favorites thank you derrick. ICED Eric. Man Buddy. He's just such a good dude. Yeah he's very interesting guy he's very interesting he's a nice guy you know. I'm a big Fan. I'm glad that Wi fi got fixed to that why I forget sometimes if I was in the same hotel l.. Jimmy people left and right. I've been going to Sarah. Jj Dot com in Comoros savage t-shirt excellent. Because you know why they're part of the unfiltered army and they take in the say that yes they sent me. DM's of them in a shirt and they're like Yo man Mike Comores. It's uncomfortable. All this makes me feel Nice. It makes me feel like people like what we're doing here. I hope so you know Jimmy and if you WanNa see me at the degenerates on Netflix. I I have a bunch of gigs end of this month. Tampa have a Royal Oak Michigan. COMING UP BY CHICAGO COMING UP. I HAVE MINNEAPOLIS COMING UP. I have Madison Wisconsin in a whole bunch of stuff and go to my website and grab tickets tickets cell for Boston as well and Connecticut and also check out on the Joe Rogan organ now went up yesterday. I I don't look view counts but it's very popular episode of. I heard very high but I watched it count me is one of those viewpoints. Well I appreciate that. I don't look at numbers. What do I know? I'm sure it's very very crazy. USC This weekend. When is that Saturday? Excuse me I know Jimmy I know Jimmy Jimmy. I know we're we're GONNA leave. Now we are. I'M GONNA be tonight at a Levittown New York What are you doing now? Empower people with these with a beautiful Art of Brazilian Jitsu. Good you know I do. I teach him to defend themselves. Yeah you know. My dream is to Just keep empowering people that normally you might not be able to defend themselves. I what I watch me is for if somebody was in the same position that I was in the weekend. Going into the Hall of fame in Vegas that guy the I look like a dangerous guy. I'm on my talk. You look at my face a little by the head of a rottweiler. DC look in my eyes. They know him they probably could be a problem. That guiding care. The Guy did not care that my family's right next to Jimmy. You think he'd care if you were there. Would he fuck what you Jimmy. Yeah and what. I could get my students. Anybody that walks through my door Serbia Jay Jay and I could anyway they change. It doesn't doesn't have to be with me. And they get the D.C. Empower themselves Brazilian Jujitsu. It's like having a super power. It's like hard to take down. Jimmy mean he was not hard to take that and he was not hard to keep the mount position on. No no he wasn't. I could still be mounted on him. Now and Jimmy so listen. People don't do it. Don't do it for me. Do it for yourself in peril yourself. Learn Martial Art I recommend Brazilian inched it. When did he stop real like when did he realize all right? I'm in fucking a bad spot. I don't think he realized because he was on the bottom when I had them by both risks with his shirt on his face and he was tell me he was gonNA fuck me up. So that's why I don't think this is working out for you pal. Why let them the economy down trying to call him? You did what did you say I calm them down. It's all right told them if you don't see Youtube Ad Matt servers drunk or Matt Therapy. Jj fucking instagram. It's on their sir. Jimmy Jimmy many men that I love him but I love you pow of you all right. We'll see you Monday. Have a great time watching the fights. I know I'm watching him this weekend. Ordering on pay per view Jones against radius Shevchenko against our pal. Caitlyn Gagan so excited Eric. Lewis's fighting Latifi. It's the It's the the state of the underdog right. What happened in Houston what what happened? I I don't bring it up. What happening to Houston? Let's show the world who did goodbye Jimmy.

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Ep. 3,024: UFC 247 preview, Jon Jones on First Take, Gaston Bolanos is back, more

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Ep. 3,024: UFC 247 preview, Jon Jones on First Take, Gaston Bolanos is back, more

"Title Roll Baby on May Junkie Radio with with gorgeous Georgia. And this is what we do in why we do it baby. We're covering MMA from all all over the world this is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and Casino in the fight capital of the world. Las Vegas Nevada. The lights are on at the Mike. Sir Hot it's tied to get your. Ma Fixed Junkies take it away. Big John Gorgeous George goes. Are you ready Junkie from the fight. Capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay Bay Racist sportsbook listening to another episode of the Junky Radio. Show the only only show that matters and I'm your host Gorgeous George with me. As always as the devious industrial he goes. He's Co host goes. It's time to talk. You Have C.. Two forty seven. We're getting into put up or shut up time now with About twenty four hours ago before weigh INS and just over two days before the the actual fights year. I mean I'm I'm getting a little bit. More excited. Watching some of the embeds is helping a little bit but That this is just a card that I felt like needs a little bit of help. It does and folks quick reminder goes on I will be doing in alternative broadcast based on sports caster Saturday night ten PM Eastern Seven Pacific go to sports caster dot com Ford slash enemy junkie. However let me spell sportscaster Mr for you? Because it's not the conventional spelling it's S. P. O. R. T. S. C. A. S. T. R.. That sports caster right there so. WWW www dot sportscaster dot com. Join US on Saturday night and watch the fights along with us. And if you didn't order it then even better will be your eyes and ears. I folks buckle up here. We go with the breakdown of the main card for. UFC Two forty seven in two thousand and eight a former D.. One football star pulled off a robbery so daring and so strange that it went viral worldwide side. It was a perfect crime story. There's just one problem. It wasn't the real story of what happened. The sneak is a new serialized. True true crime podcast from four the wind and USA Today Sports. You can subscribe now on Apple podcasts or get it anywhere you get podcast on Tuesday January fourteenth go. Oh so on sports caster on the broadcast you and I will focus on the main card. Dip In maybe for an extra fight just is to make sure that tees across dies audit and the sounds good and all that good stuff but I'm not even excited about the the main card hard I mean honestly goes you're not gonNA believe this Andrea Leeann Lauren. Murphy's the fight I'm most excited about the prelims to they're on ESPN eight PM Eastern five PM. Pacific and then at ten P. M. Eastern. Of course like we just mentioned it'll be the main card. So let's let's talk about Andrea really in Lauren. Murphy Really Quick Lauren. Murphy you know I think she's part of the older guard And Andrea Leah's part of the newer generation of fighters Lauren Murphy's Somebody who I felt out of a lot of the old guard like she baiser Lauren. Murphy Affleck a lot of them were. We're still trying to cash that check of. Hey I've been in the sport for a long time I paid my dues whereas my recognition like I'm somebody in look all all respect. I mean a lot of these young ladies did fight all over the world is just. They came along a few years too late before it really mattered. Which is basically the U. OF C. And a little bit of what bell towards done with some other divisions or even strikeforce back in the day but I kind of I dunno Mansi. Hansi rubbed me the wrong way on the ultimate fighter but now cheering for her. You are yeah. They're not the it's nothing against Andrew Lee Andrew Lees fantastic fighter But Maybe I'm seeing what happened to some of the old guards that fizzled out like Shayna. baiser wound up going to pro wrestling. Doing well sorted Ronda Rousey but then ron arouse he's also also just on my God just had this weird fall from combat sports all together with a bitter taste. You know what I mean. But she's had more of an attitude. Lauren Murphy just Kinda Things and I think she feels like she's probably owed a little bit She doesn't have an attitude about it. Rhonda had an attitude about it. Yeah Yeah perhaps you're right I don't know I like barb haunch for example Everybody Kinda crowned her as the flyweight champion champion of the world before the season ever unfolded but she didn't get on my nerves. I think she was at the time. She hadn't fought in like three years and I think she just showed up opens. And that's nice that people say this but I still gotta prove myself whereas a lot of the young ladies that I've seen in these reality shows like don't you know who I am. That type of thing. Yeah anyway she wanted me back because she worked hard and she got some key wins here and there so I'll be rooting for. But I think under Louisiana went Andrew Leah. I think she's a good fighter. Complete we but I would never I would never dabur as being an incredible favourite inner fight right and I don't think she's she or Lauren. have anything from our L. Dina. I'm not now but I still think the fight has something I think it's old versus New Guard Moving onto the main event ill TV. Versus Derek Lewis. Now Start with the odds. Derek Lewis minus three hundred yearly fee plus. Two forty. Dude it just basically comes down to size power athleticism with Derek Lewis. It's not like really. He's got all these crazy techniques in fact sometimes the almost relies too much on his power hand. I'd like to see a little bit more of a diverse verse attack. He's got the jumping switch kick. He's got you know some opera cuts and hooks and stuff like that but there there are times where I see him just loading up his power power hand. I wish I would see a little bit more now. That's it it works. He's got a ton of knockouts ton of bonuses. A ton of fans loved the Guy So do a lot of fans and I I think some point he'll get his hands on the TV TV moving up from light heavyweight dabbling with these guys and gals. I'll tell you one thing when I saw extreme for. He's a thick boy he is so I can see why he's thinking all right. You know I'm really in the heavyweights body and I'm pretty fairly solid. I just don't want to cut the weight or whatever but that there's a big difference I mean Derek is Kinda seen fighters like this that little bit of a smaller stature. More compact But the thing is like the thing about Derek. That really concerns me. If I've Poynton for heavyweight he's actually very very very active and I don't know at. What point do you take your breaks learn? New Tricks righty does depend a lot on that power so so in this type of filing Latifi has type of style that if he can stay away from that big hand. He's GonNa tire you out and I think think Derek's going to be okay in this fight but I also don't feel like the TV should be overlooked. Yeah look minus three hundred. I'm not GonNa lay that I'm gonNA just cheer for Lewis List and that's that and at the same time I'm not gonna Bet Latifi either because I need to see what somebody looks like at a way class before I bet them because is usually I don't mind playing the underdogs especially in like a parlay or whatever but um the hell of a jump though was somebody's been with us on the military trip. I feel like there's a a little bit more even more of a close bond with that fighter and I don't like the feeling of having to cheer against somebody you know what I mean. Probably the fight alone. I'm just telling those that want. WanNa know what we're thinking Lewis probably is the better fighter and I think a lot of it just comes down to size honestly Lose record. He usually beats most of the fight like most of the fighters. Except for when you get to the elites so we'll see Mercedes Versus Danny game side back minus one forty Dan Ebay plus one ten then probably going to hear some home voices here on the side Mercer Beck I think he put put it best goes Probably on triple show when Beck tick is clicking. He looks like he's got championship material. Written all over Now that said you and I have been saying this for about five years remember. He's had some injuries. He just doesn't is a fight that frequently that he's in front of our eyes a lot and then he's also dropped a couple of fights. The thing is once that Chin got touched Elkins started it. You can just see. Maybe it's been good that he doesn't fight frequently because the more timing as in between fights. I think he'll be able to recover that you you know. And and shore up the the defenses is Ebay that power striker that can just light you up on the feet not yet. He's getting better. He's more dangerous when he gets you on the ground and beat up that way. This fight is going to be really really close. It's going to be really really exciting. And it's a big big fight for both if he can take it to five and one. He's just is going to continue to climb the ladder now. He'll be able to get maybe even somebody in the top five who knows depending on what he says when he grabs Mike Antibacterial and get this win. Then maybe this'll be the comeback trail for him. so that said the extreme couture connections just a little bit too much for me. I'm GonNa go with Dan e but I've always enjoyed We kinda gotten to know him a little bit through a Mike Dolch as well. So may the best man win is concerned. I think it's one of those cases where you you told me the best Versus the best e Gay. I go with Beck Dick. But that's the problem is we haven't been always getting that type of performance from Recite Bek ticks. Oh I'll probably end up going with Danny Gay but this is a really tough fight for him. It's a IT'S A. It's a no win situation. I think think for BEC. Because if he wins this fight Danny as kind of like an up and comer and I think a Lotta people in the gym. We'll say do discuss it. He's going to get better but I don't. I know that a lot of the fans are gonNA say. Hey you got he gay. You know what I mean so as wherever you were to be back I think that would be a big deal for eager to take a bigger jump But it'll it'd be a really good fight. This is probably the fight that I'm looking forward to the most the entire night and like I mentioned many times the loser of a fight like this. This can have anywhere from an eighteen month. Two Year setback specially this division. This division is just stacked right. Now you have the possibility of a rematch. When all the guys get healthy meaning I think vulcanology had a injured tom or something him and Max Holloway and then you have guys like zoo? Beat who are you know chasing chasing these types of opportunities Yeah Year Rodriguez out there Keno there's also missing here kind of spacing it Jeremy Stevens now Jeremy Stevens Calvin meter earlier yeah cater lost his Abi spider the Korean Zombie I got my my divisions mixed up a little bit and I actually froze there for a second but Let me see here. I WANNA make sure I don't Miss Anybody feel like it's been awhile. Since we talked about the way Josie Aldo dropped to thirty five. Frankie is finally going I think going to drop to thirty five or take a shit. I what Patricia Tricia Afraid Ian McKee being over there bill or get the scroll down a little bit before you get to some of the other guys mcconaughey experienced a couple of losses. So maybe it's not as big of a setback because I thought but either way it's a stack division. The guy named off the right names Arnold Allen can't forget about him he's won seven straight so it's going to be a lot of guys chasing my point is you just. Don't want to fight at this. All right the next fight one adams versus Justin Tafa one atoms minus two hundred just in top plus one sixty. Who Do you like in this year? I'M GONNA GO TAFA the thing with one atoms. Is these kind of like one of them devastating type of guys. I don't know that he's a complete fighter but because of his little beef with Homeboy From the hardy. I think that Kinda like elevated him to a level that I don't I know that he was ready for just yet and so I've heard some pretty good things about this topic and I am actually him. You know one out of is a really really really big guy and I I thought he was just going to be like power player. You know what I mean. He's lost two in a row and and I'm also on offer not just because Oh that's the guy that likes underdogs I just. I don't know I feel like he's got a type of skill. Gilson were he can beat Adams just based on his power alone We'll see we'll see you know how this plays out but I'm GONNA go with with Tofte I'm GonNa go with the dog on this one. The next fight is Kayla Kagan versus Valentine. Shinko would you like year. Valentina Ayaan Tina to me is is one of the most complete and dominant fighters all of the UFC. The girls just amazing at what she does she you. You're never going to hear her goofing off or doing anything silly outside of the cage. Her life is dedicated to martial arts. I I don't know very many people that could beat her in the sports so I I pretty much pick her every single time unless maybe you match up against the Manda and even then should give Manda Hell in those to fight right so Price still picker I now. The question is which Valentina are. We GonNa get beginning to get the Valentino. That got beat Jessica I with that head kick. Ko where. We're going to get the Valentina that just kind of decision Liz Carr Moosh. I think we're GONNA they get the head kick one guy that's kind of what I'm thinking is well I I think Valentina now has gotten a taste of how you can win as a champion and what that does you know what I mean. And I think she's now all starting to realize I'm a notch above all these ladies one or two. I can win how I want when I want. I feel like I mean really. She's only had two title defenses so long she's had this long distinguished career or anything like that But I think now that she had a little bit of a version of both types of fights. I think she's going to go back to being like the contract. Killer the assassin per se. So I pick her to win by by devastating type of Finish more than likely on the feet. I just think she's. It's too much for killing. Kagan to Kagan is tough. She's you know I've seen her ground games. Diesel or standard games decent but I think Shevchenko moves at too high of a pace and she blends the martial arts very very well wherever she goes. The only thing. It's every scared me about Valentine. If you're SHANECO is her isolated training her her sister and her coach not allow number starring or any of the. I've never seen her as part part of a big Jim where you can go where you can say she handles herself. Wow versus these other fellow. UFC BANHAM leads or flyweights. Or whatever you don't see too much of that. Yeah you've heard the stories where she strained with rose and a few others but I haven't seen any of it. You know what I mean. Maybe the reasons why she stays injury-free to could be now that's a testament to the coach. The coach is doing something right No 'cause you're schenker only Antonina has a loss Well until engineers got a loss. I shouldn't say Valentina doesn't have a loss. Bouncing losses are the top dogs the top the top though. Yeah so Pavel Fedotov. I believe he pronounces last name. It could be that he's just onto something. You know what I mean but I I don't know enough about the foot. Maybe he had other subjects and they were either doing well or not be judged the level of of her who's who's training her whatever but anyway it's she's always been a little bit of an enigma and it's working so the odds on that fight are by the way are minus minus thousand for volunteers for Cinco plus six fifty for killing Kagan deep match. I would never let thousand on anybody and to Kagan plus six fifty. I suppose if I was going to do something I would do that. But SHINCO falls under the military some military love so. I'm just going to enjoy the fight. I'm GONNA enjoy the greatness of Valentina Shaneco Moving onto the main event John Jones versus Dominic Reyes. John Jones minus five hundred dominic gray is possibly fifty. I gotta go John. Jones here The dudes basically sleep in virtually unstoppable. There have been some fighters that have maybe shown a little little weaknesses air for four John but John Figures figures out how to put it all together. So it's hard to bet against them now but this is the type of fighter that you would say could give him trouble right. It's got a long range which he's got some powerful shot. This would be the type of guy that would give him trouble but the other thing that's kind of stood out for me is John Mentally. Seems like he's in a good place. I think he's been tested a few times mentally here in this camp with questions. That have been asked his way and and he's just seems like maybe he might have matured a little bit so I think everything seems to be cooking for John Right now. Michael John Jones going back to Spain back click and I thought I heard you say something interesting interesting John. j-o-h-n is good at finding away. which probably means he's good at adapting? He's got succeeding. I write up a game plan. Dance right when he was being tested coming off that lay off. He kind of found a way right but still a guy who fought as the middleweight. Mostly then moved up to light heavyweight onto bad legs one especially just shredded leg. Come to split this. I can't get that out of my head and Dan. I don't know if that meant John Jones slowing down or John. Jones was stubborn to be in there with somebody who who was so damaged. I you know what I mean. The IAGO Santos was damaged in rounds. Three four five but even towards the end when I guess you could argue the fight was still oh in question feel John. Jones could've turned it around now. John Jones does limp out of the cage every single time. His Shins is feet. I mean who knows what that guy goes through. It could be that he's just you know he's basically fighting on adrenaline at that point. So maybe that's his version of slowing down now. But Man I I I wanna I WANNA see raise not my gun to the head. Pick but almost confident enough to put them Imus my staff pick. It's just that the staff picks don't matter in the sense that it's just basically competition between us. It's never held against against me. If I don't get a pick right you know what I mean I feel like I can dabble there if I put twenty bucks on raise or twenty five. Well it hurts. Of course I don't WANNA lose it but I feel like it's worth worth the investment of of possibly hits. I would never do gun to the head because I feel like a fool going against the greatest of all time but something tells me goes. This could be a weekend prime. I'm for upset. That is the same guy where Matt Serra beat George saint-pierre I agree this kind of has that feeling. It's just it's hard to say that what's going to happen when you got a guy like John. Don't but everything else on the other side makes you feel a little confident Dan. Tom was saying being the fighters that can hurt John. Jones the most are the ones that can counter off of John. Jones's kicks And that's something Dominic Reyes isn't really exceptional at but that said John. Dominic Reyes is has power. He can kick box. He has wrestling. We always sees a football player and he was but he was also wrestler so he may have a little bit of what it takes to be. 'cause we always said if John Jones's decides is the wrestle everyone mostly everyone's in trouble even DC got taken down by John Jones. So trust me I know that Dominic Reyes and get taken down by John Jones but I. I think that's John's Xanadu. It's a lot easier than if you're Shogun for example where you have basically. I don't want to say no wrestling. I'm training wrestling. But no wrestling background. And Dominic Reyes is six four and you know all too old five probably two thirty on fight night versus show gun. Who's maybe six one? Maybe two twenty twenty five on finite to thirty in that to twenty to thirty is kind of like a soft two twenty five to thirty definitely not doesn't have that wiry strength of John Jones. It does because there's only John Jones is a to forty five to fifty Guy Jonky inflates himself. He's actually an undersized light-heavyweight but I just think he's naturally wiry strong because of his frame his wrestling background. He can cause a lot a lot of problems for a lot of fighters Saw Me give you my pick. Dominik Ray is going with him. Nice uh. I'm SORTA win you in a way to win decision. I think he's just gonNA catch them in the John Jones. We'll come back and beat Dominic Reyes and then they'll eventually have to have a trilogy. I don't know if it'll be right away kind of forecasting here into the future to get wakeup call for John and So then things will be shifted everywhere. He'll still be one of the goats but he won't be the current Aaron Pound for pound king. It's it's Habibur mogomedov anyway. And by the way if he wins I might have to put them above Hobie because he doesn't fight frequently so even the Habib has no losses and neither does John he only has the technical loss amount Hamel. I feel like just doesn't fight as frequently and this'll be John's fourth fight in about fourteen months. It's not a bad pace that he's picking up all over again and who knows maybe just if he wins might have to take a look at about putting him above Habib if you lose. I think he'll come back hungrier than ever. But you know he's got. This is the second go round as a light heavyweight champ and this'll we'll be as eleven title defence it would time with Dimitris Johnson. For the record it would separate them from and civil who had ten uh Anderson's were ten consecutive and Dimitrios for ten consecutive. Johns had two stints because of the problems with I think that's what different is Dimitrius. Just did it continuously Yeah But once you get the twelve that's no longer eleven. You know what I mean. So we'll see. We're not there a yet and John still in his early thirties. So then he'll have plenty of opponents. Still you know in these now that said walkers out rack each lost. He'll have opponent. I mean Corey Anderson is foaming at the mouth to the man. I can't wait for this again. Goes in. I'll be doing a sports caster on Saturday night. An alternative broadcast sportscaster. I should say sportscaster dot com forward forward slash enemy junkie. Check out the fights with us on Saturday ten PM Eastern Seven Pacific All right so you say hold onto the title. I say he loses it. I WANNA to be with you I I because everything does seem prime for upset in this. If you were to ask me to create a fighter to beat John Jones. He would probably look a lot like this. I just can't say it. You know what we keep forgetting. The Aga Santos is going to be back at some point. Healthy yeah you know and a split decision loss I mean I don't see Dana. May giving them too many fights before he fights fiscal on. Yeah just once you get them right back there right. So I can't forget about that guy I can't forget about that guy even though we lost rackets and Walker as immediate contenders dion still around. I thought Anthony Smith had a great rate comeback fight from a loss when he'd be Gustafsen. That's how you do it. You know what I mean And you know John Jones's stats versus Teixeira. The stats are very similar as well to share even though he got mauled by Jones. He's quietly amassed quite a career in the you have C.. Especially because it took him forever to get any and all those Veasley quietly as a streak she sure does he has like five. Submission Wins Ten K.. O. Wins There was an article I believe it was done by Mike Bond just talking about all all the different things that John Jones Dunn's career the list quite impressive. Check it out a lot of good stuff on anime junky. Who If you click one story leads to another one but if you WANNA get your yourself more familiar with the combatants on Saturday Check out these articles. They're there for a reason. So that's basically the main card there what what's been your thoughts on embedded it. It's been interesting. I mean I think some people have been saying that. They've been trading barbs on on twitter in the main event and I don't really see it that way. I think that stuff that John Tries to do to help sell the fight but raises spin pretty honest Like the thing about Kobe. You know maybe giving him that extra die hard lincoln. Yeah but it it's it's been it's been okay. It's embedded get a little better. I think right around episode for which is four which is what I think. We're going to be coming up on today. You think Israel out of song is going to be active on twitter on Saturday thing so I don't blame them. I always talk about hubby versus Connor in that stadium. Right across from this Mandalay Bay here By think is versus Jones could qualify too. That's my backup could. It isn't the first to build it up at Johnny Dizzy. Yeah I agree Let's touch on a couple years from now. We'll get out of here all right. So did you see Max Kellerman interviewing John cajones on. I Take I did and I was actually kind of blown away by John handled himself. Well right yeah. He gave his answers where he still. Oh clown but he didn't go over the top and like punk somebody which he's more than really he can if he wants to because he's already accepted Arab. Have you want to be the bad guy. I'll be the right guy but it seems like he's still wants to be the good guy and honestly he's been on a decent run. Now this Graham thing is GonNa go away because you saw this kind of changed just a little bit of you know the bar that that so. I don't think that's going to be a problem. He hasn't been in any trouble. He's been active title. Defenses have been one after the other had some pretty good fights including that split decision win over the Agua Santos thous- pretty interesting. But when he went on I take take he was asked a little bit about Conrad and Habibur Mogomedov and is answers. Were good I liked them. Basically paraphrase with Conor McGregor. He was asked you know. I think it's the duty of any mainstream media. Just throw Connor's his name out there. Because of the popularity of Conor McGregor but in reality John kept the real. He's something along the lines of look when everyone's sitting around talking in the barbershop. He's it's really not gonNA come up in the goat talk Mo only if you say but what about the gate that he brought the pet the masses of people the pave. Yeah Yeah Okay that is. That's what's he got himself some Cao's over some legends champ champ everything but no title defences been away for a while. He hasn't racked up those numbers that we are quoting earlier. Josie Aldo had seven titled Defenses. George saint-pierre had nine title defences Anderson Silva had ten to meech. Johnson had ten John Jones. I've had eight. All those ink. Consecutive goes the won the title and then defended it that many amounts of times John Jones of course came back and got another two. That's why he's at and Conrad Zach. Had none of that. You know what I mean and barbershop. Talk means expert talk because those are the people that sit around and obsess over sports. You know what I mean so John Jones Jones is not wrong. You know what it reminded me a lot of that. 'cause I thought John did great. I thought his answers were great He still had a little bit of that. Swag with a little. A bit of the laughing and stuff But I thought overall he did great but what it reminded me of when he brought up that barbershop talk and all that was a little bit of pro wrestling. And and you look at guys like Stone Cold Steve Austin and and they took wrestling by storm but nobody really talks about about him being like one of the greatest of all time because his matches weren't really that exciting his energy that he brought in the character. How it kind? Hi change pro wrestling a little bit. But as far as what he did in the ring. You didn't really go. Wow can you believe you know finishing move or or how he put up with this this type of match or anything like that. It kind of reminded me of that. When thinking about Conor McGregor his point and I think that is something where we'll look back and look at his contribution to the sport but I don't know that we'll talk about him? As being one of the greats. I agree I found the exact quote he says it's about being the guy that people are going to be talking about at fifty a hundred about fifty one hundred years from now that's really what gets me out of bed in the morning at the end of the day no disrespect to connor because I love what he's doing for our sport I don't think he's GonNa be in the conversation. People sitting around at a barbershop talking about the greatest martial arts artists in the world He's right the the only thing that will happen is you'll get that one while cargo. Hey Bob out that Conor McGregor man. He sold some paper views. And then everyone another head and fist bump and I five and do whatever because you gotta give give him that. He really really did change the sport in that regard but as far as those statistics all time greats the ticks. He's not there yet now. Connors career is not over over. Maybe he'll get there. I don't know in fact hanging anelle on Habibur Maga made off would be a great start if he can get to that but no disrespect to Habib he's still. Has Tony ahead of them. So we'll see and that's a whole other conversation. The other guy that was addressed was Habib. Magomedov Kellerman was has basically he backtracked a little bit on a statement. Yeah here's basically Here's what went down. Callan was trying to say this is a quote from Columbine. I don't mean who's more accomplished. I'm talking about just the eyeball test. Jones Jones needed more clarification. What do you mean by that? The eyeball test Kellerman says no magomed off in a sport where it seemed early on that the one that the one who's basis the ground game usually has the advantages guy who is best known for striking is the best example. I can think of a guy who's ground game is ridiculous Gillis and then can also stand up. I mean. I didn't believe other than that. Big Punch on McGregor hasn't shown US enough to be part of that sentence. Habib has gotten better for sure cirque with Iaquinta for awhile remember. He doesn't fight frequently correct. You're right he does. And and then toss out that example. You gave him Kellerman alluded to when I just said he just doesn't have much of a history as a striker. So this is what Jones says right. Yeah his standup is really not much to write home about now. This is like after a chuckle. He had to hold back a little bit. I really don't want to insult my fellow martial artists. I don't WanNA insult these guys. I'm happy before everyone like I said some guys are more popular. Some guys make more money. It's always going to be that kind of opinion thing but by the time I leave the sport. I don't think there's is going to be much of an argument. So he did well for himself he had to say something similar to what he said. which might it sound disrespectful to Habib? I really don't think he. His intention was to do anything other than promote the fight. He was just answering the questions and he had the put it that way. There was no way around around I thought he did great I o we give him an a plus on that on that performance for steak. Yeah so kind of interesting. Two Thousand Twenty were two guys that have been bad. Boys in the past are kind of holding their own McGregor An and John Jones now John Jones will see what happens. Going forward. McGregor Still Hill has some stuff to contend with on the other side of the pond but so far in terms of them predicting maybe the can fight three times this year in and be great martial artists so far Soga All right Well that's kind of it man. Look there's a lot of other news on the front front page of our may junkie if you want to check it out. There's used to forty seven pre-event facts. There's a catch up with every single person from the The main card of you've you've seen forty-seven and even some additional Fights fighter. Excuse me that are on the UC to forty seven card Gary Tanin wants a one and by the way title shot. Of course he was mentioned earlier on an episode because he's going to be grappling versus destined. Play it was on the spinning back earlier this week Gaston Bolanos is back in action goes. He had won four in a row member. We got submitted Yet submitted back in September. He's going to be fighting on a card coming up here. Rebel tour to thirty nine in Oklahoma Darren till still says he might be able to fight it to forty eight versus jared cannon here so first Dana White said he's off off. He's still saying that he might be able to to fight. On kinda says he's been nursing the injury for awhile now. My what I would prefer is just get one hundred percent and then make the fight happen. I think so I can wait till May or April but I really liked the match up. I don't want a hurried version of of this. You need did your ankle to get your mileage in to get your strength and conditioning in much less the fight itself. I'm sure you can put up with the pain for fifteen minutes but I'd rather get somebody cleaned up and have them be one hundred percent. Wouldn't you agree. Yeah especially with with a guy like der until his kind of giving us a little insight into what his mind in the way it works and I wouldn't want a guy like that going into a fight hobbled. Yeah I agree about the craziness of Colby Covington wanting to box. Yeah I knew it no me neither no just stick to ever may it was to going into the fifth round which means he's right there. You know with a tweet here there. He can fight for a world title again. I think Amaro knows that he belongs xenos. He belongs covy nosy belongs. You should focus on the main now fifty cents. The opponent right. Yeah so so. If if there's just a ton of money can stop that from happening. You know if there's two million there by paying fighters better if they paid fighters better fires. I just wouldn't be asking for ridiculous things like that breezes and trying to throw a draft Javelin 'cause or a pitch because he's being paid well to do what what he wants to do right. Supposedly got paid five hundred grand. If I'd Comorros Mun but if somebody's in all from two million to five fifty cent. You can't blame them for wanting to fight fifty cents all right a little bit man. Yeah but it should be able to be. I think when you look at overall what the U. of C. cashes in versus what the fighters get. I think that's why they look look at it. And that's the biggest enigma in this sport is your right. What the UC makes they should share with their athletes? Fifty percent rough number. That's what the other leagues do. But the reason they don't folks is they don't have to. It's a simple as that. Um and I can't blame them for that. That's the way says I'll businesses. Yes Shit to get to that point any fighter. They want they just flat out. Don't I don't have to do it the only way they have to do. It is if all of them say well you know what. Then we're not fighting. Well then guess what the probably have like ten cards laid laid out from here on out and they have Debt payments that. They have to make so at that point they would have to collectively negotiate. Maybe for thirty days days maybe cancel a few shows but they would basically at some point after deliver a product. Espn you couldn't just have six hundred people on the sideline and then pull in. What's called SCAB? ABS- gathered people that crossed the picket lines. and Say I'll fight. I'll fight off fight. It's not going to be the AFC product that's the only way they can get to fifty. And do you think this collective bunch each of fighters who you've got an over the years whether you've only been a fan for one year ten years twenty years. Do you think they have it in you know. I don't think so there's a bit they called on them. Do but a lot of you not to work. Oh yeah a lot of people from part of the world or they're billionaires when they get home the last conor McGregor Carton. Look that undercard. You tell me mean you gotTa Scab. Carter wouldn't look that much different. Yeah I agree The only other the thing I wanted to say was lost it. Oh the Saudis WanNa pay Habib a hundred million to fight Conor McGregor No yeah and he answered by saying one hundred million for me to beat up that idiot again. He kind of did an interview where he thought he was. Basically saying Saudis. Save your money man. Like that's just not rational. You know what you're what you're are willing to pay. I thought it was bizarre. Usually people are like lining up like okay. Wire me the money you know. Here's my account number. Yeah that to me is very weird. Heard but He's the one guy that's kind of. It's weird because he says over and over that money's not really an issue but I think obviously there's been certain moments in in his life where it seems like it is so I don't know he I think he's just really hates connor I think he really wants to make him Pay By making him knock it special treatment. Yeah you know what I want to close the one more. Sorry Angela Hill has yet again. Answered the call for short notice fight love. 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UFC 254 Post-Fight Show: Khabib Nurmagomedov Retires

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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UFC 254 Post-Fight Show: Khabib Nurmagomedov Retires

"You're listening to Fox media podcast network. Welcome back everybody the second part of our UFC two fifty, four post fight coverage here on May fighting dot com it's the UFC two, fifty, four, Habib versus. post-fight show I Mike Heck I do not do this alone I'm being joined once again by our producer extraordinaire E. Casey Liden and look who decided to join the Party the principles himself Mr Alex came Alex, how are you by man? You have to fifty four in the books first impressions these feelings be so tired of our faces we did the live way in late Thursday. We did a live a preview show which we don't always do we think Eli for your show and now the post show? So people have seen our faces Mike for about. Eight hours in the last three days, which is, which is a lot I would say is a lot of time. But what an event though I think I think I. Think a lot of US fans well re-energize indefinitely eager to kind of talk about everything went down tonight because this this was I would say, maybe the most eventful show of twenty twenty and I I can't imagine any upcoming shopping. All right. So let's let's get right into the main event because the lot happened in the fight in a lot happened after the flight Habiba made off goes in their beach just engaged submits them into the second round and I don't know about you guys. But I was just left thinking kind Lakewood Dana White was saying at the at the post fight press, which is like Oh, my God, like that was unbelievable. That's ridiculous. This guy is just a machine and then he gets on the. Microphone and announces his retirement at twenty nine sitting made a promise to his mother. After the passing of his father said, I'm going to do one more and I'm never gonNA fight again and he is announced his retirement we didn't hear anything else it was a very eloquent very beautiful post post-retirement speech thanking everybody saying in a couple of different languages no post-flight scrum no backstage interviews with ESPN any of the media let's say what he had to say and he was out of there so. Ak Let's start with the performance itself. Off Goes in there. Gets a Finnish does what he did to twenty-eight others submits Justin Gay e. will your thoughts on performance I. Loved it. I. It silenced. So much of what I had written an article with our general shoe kind of debating. The greatness of frozen. Now, we can hear you. Okay. Sorry. We're. Debating the greatness are you frozen again like? By. stipulating. Voice isn't enough your your bag your bag. Thank you. All right. Anywhere JJ meeting the greatness of Hubby whether he's the greatest player of all time I said, he wasn't one of the reasons was. I think we like to see our crates show another dimension I mean, one dimension is so dominant, and if he never showed anything besides wrestling, it wouldn't matter. He'd still be in the running for the greatest fighter of all time. But when you when you see them kind of go out of their comfort zone look at John Jones, for example. Today he went out there that I don't think I'm going stand with. GonNa stand and he was throwing someone Orthodox stop he was getting engage these faiths. Tense it was really tense but I don't think. I think I was such a big part of of gates of. Victory was. He expected pressure but not that kind of pressure that kind stand depression guy wink wink shots Adam don't punch is running these it was it was awesome. It looked a little sloppy at times. I'm not saying this could be we saw here but. But this beserk aversion Humvee it makes me a little sad that he one of the reasons I'm sad he's retiring because. Clearly. He's still still showing so much growth as a fighter and he really a gave a gift you look at he couldn't prepare for anyone can prepare for it, and then of course, he took it home with the wrestling so. It was just. Again. If anyone wants to make an argument that he's a great of all time, you can make a strong one. He certainly showed and tonight was really a great exclamation point at this truly is the end of his career. Yeah I mean I left it's I just. And I agree with everybody else if gay is. Gay just has enough crazy and him to possibly be the Guy I. If you watch the preview show, I didn't pick Aga said I. Pretty much predicted. What would happen actually happened but I thought gates if anybody can do is him and if he couldn't do it then nobody could so I left that they can nobody's going to beat this man and it's just not possible unless he goes up to one seventy or You know maybe goes up fights. She S P which I think he'd still anyways I've thought that for a while, but it is I mean just just an unbelievable performance and then to find out I, mean Dana why we're talking about this for one Air Dana White did his post fight press conference very rarely does is supposed by press conferences not go like under twenty minutes. This one was like as long as Alexander Volkov's. Post scrum. It was like just over seven minutes. He didn't say much he praised. He talked about wanting to see potentially a matching out of San Ian Whittaker. But the other thing he said to me was that be broke his foot like be fought that fight basically on one foot that is just bananas Ak It's Bananas I tells you. Did he also say that they didn't know about they didn't know he'd like he just found out today was that was at the implication from Dana that he didn't know. I don't I mean I. It's. Cornerman told him so I guess now they can. Not tell the secrets of the hardships training camp. So yeah, I'm skeptical I. This I this is just my opinion. By the way I'm not doing any certainly things Stanford I feel like. So anytime there's an injury like that. I feel like someone new I'm doing this in there with the with the way in conspiracy. There's a book to be written about this. The lead up to this fight some day the way in conspiracy was allowed to go in with the Parsley injured but we'll. We'll find out. Again that controver- whatever cuts versus you want to believe in or even manufacturer. Overshadow, performance thing and this is your take away from the fight. Someone new by the Brookings. I think Trevor Wittman known. Because in the corner talking adjust engage okay and he's telling him to calm the F. Down like. F and Lazy. But then right before they cut the replays Trevor Wittman says keep going after the leg. We know he can't walk right now. What does. That mean that stuck to what does that even mean could me you know maybe they knew Casey. What do you think? He meant it meant I think it means nothing I think it meant that they were trying to the game plan in which which is what I said the way only way gates you is going to win this fight and he was on his way to doing that before we lost by like. Lake eggs, he would have to destroy Habib's Habib's leg, and where she was trying to do but he just didn't do it enough before he lost. All. The vice, he didn't it he needed some Kamar device and some footsteps. The fire the year. Okay, you know that right? Oh Good stops. Would have won the fight tonight. I wish I could see the world of combat sports through your your your gentlest and and ignore the possibility that this injury might have been more well known than we thought. Because again I know all about the love of the game Hashtag auto POPs I know that's all you care about getting your sweet tweets on the broadcast and yet another another pay per view in other broadcasts did not make I did not make the Broadcast again. No Again I. Put all the hashtags in Hashtag Abu Dhabi Hashtag W, Hotel Hashtag the hospitality is awesome here. A Little, Long. You didn't get. Folks focus is. For those watching right now we want to hear from you want to get your thoughts, answer your question. So questions comments leave him in the chat. What I what I thought was kind of Interesting Aka. was that two of the judges not one not two gave the first round to just engaging. Are You surprised by this? I wouldn't have scored it for. Myself I. Don't think it's the worst car I. Think it's bad. I think it's bad but I'm not going to spend it I'm not to bend it. I'm just saying it's not the worst but but I I didn't seek see land anything hard really is struggling to figure out again, timing and Meadows Game Plan All the aggression was not even just the aggression I'll go beyond aggressive the effective striking was in had to be in favor of their Magomedov again maybe maybe I'll look at the numbers tomorrow and see something differently but certainly, upon first glance I was thinking men a new magnetics really he's really taking it to to just in case you so. Odd Score I think gates, you got like slipped in some punches, some counters which may be. You know his his his style is very crowd-pleasing I. Guess Judge Pleasing as well So again, I won't really vilified there was some but there were some other shaky cars in the night as well. So. Not. The. Best. Not The best from the from the judges say. The problem with scorecards in my opinion I agree with you like I think it'd be was landing I. Think he missed a lot of those shots when gauging landed accounted like those kicks her gnarly. The fate, the punches, the face or landing, you could hear them but then he'll be took him down in mounted him. in the first round like that's. Almost in trying to get an arm bar in before the horizontal, like when you mount a guy and a closer I'm like that like that should give you the round like I don't know and you're melting be you're taking down amounting freaking Katie and that's unreal I mean and this is still a just engaging with still no. Still Eighty percents still gasping. He was still full of energy and the fact that he is able to do that it's like, how do you give them that round? That's ridiculous. So, he'll even amalgamate off retires AKA I feel like every time a fighter retires we have to ask this question do you have to leave him? Do you really believe him but I feel like I feel like with this one I feel like I believe it like I feel like there's really nothing else he can do. Outside I mean listen I. He's still a competitive guy. I, think he's done everything he needs to do. In the back might they bring him back for like a fight like that entice them I'm guessing now but maybe Maybe goes into the boxing world does a floyd fight maybe I mean, what else does the need to do so I tend to believe that we're not going to see him fight again. This is my floyd face hated to I eight that I have to say this allowed. I'm not I'm like fifty fifty was sorta predicting the the the veracity of 'em retirements I I was very good with gop career when he I remember when he walked away after the Hendrix fight I was. Always confident that he come back and fly again. So I was right about that one. Also just confident that he won't fight again I, think he would come back. Unless they made the money right which CFC wasn't going to bank on that. So that one I was really accurate. I'm very wrong on Ronda Rousey. It seems like there's still chance you could fight again but that seems remote at this point I was super competent after she kind of disappeared for the first time she'd come back. Because Dobson was easy to predict that he would come back to find true we knew he was fight against some of these are pretty pretty dramatic losses. Yeah, those are predictable. This one win strange Mike Gut is not over. I really I know I know his speech was great his personality as we know it, we know him to be a fairly authentic person. He's he says what he would he means means what he says but I feel like a challenge will arise will rise some day Kim. This is a very emotional time like you said, it's his first fight since the passing of his father, he made a promise to his mother. This'll be the last one, but he's only thirty two years old. Money Wise I. Know He doesn't have to worry about it. We don't think we're GONNA come back as he needs a paycheck but I do feel like a challenge could arise someday whether it's a one, thousand, five, presumably maybe one, seventy, two, I don't see that though. And he still young enough. He's like thirty, four, thirty, five I think he does. End Maybe suspect in and says I need to myself. So I am not shutting the door on the medical career I would I would not be surprised if he does. Offer as way. Casey what do you think? Done anything he comes back is done and happy trails Mr are made off. Man He's done. He he he said it in their cages like. Next. Do your rankings. I. Am the pound for pound King I won this shit. This is mine. Thank you for the cheese. I, mean, that's it. Thanks. Thanks mom made a promise. My Mom. Aka is saying he's His mom that's insane. Well well you. What if it two years? Mom says his mom let's get your ass off the couch and fight again. Well, guess what then he's got a I'm just saying. Yes, you get a job Habib. Great relationship with his mom and I bet they talk about these things all the time and I think that if you wanted to play it again, he could sort it out and so you're be Mrs this. He's GonNa miss this missed like no, he's he's done. He's GonNa Miss Gibraltar like US talking about. That's what he's going to miss the most working we're. GonNa. Thirteen. Minutes playing his way in video and deciphering it on the. I don't need this al.. He loves it. Of course I'm. I'm just no he's not coming back in man He's GonNa us all this money and just do good things for his people back home and man I'm just. Family and kids right just. Guys Dad he just like. Me We might seem and then cut. Some corners for some of his fighters I may when Marx Joke Bites again we might see him again as a cornerman but as far as fighting and being on the Mike and Dropping promos and you know how smash you and the number one bullshit all this stuff. Is Done. Casey listen. He's GonNa be training these guys these fights and he's he's handling them in practice and he's just me thinking man. This is like when Michael Jordan came back and he was like one on one like bj. Armstrong and he's like Killed these cats I've got to come back. For. Real. I. I'm not predicting. He's GonNa fight again. But if I had to bet if I bet my life will fight again. I will lean towards the. As Beg your paycheck that was intense. That's like superheroes. If I had to. Very, very, very low valuing very low value on your life. That's all I got. My life is worth less than one. I'll I'll, put? It so sad bite please please move US along. To. The Union Rep. Very. Happy. I'm very happy I mean. This is this is what happens when it's an early post by show. We're ready to awake right now. I know Roy Jones we're going crazy So obviously Habib happy trails and nothing left to prove. So creates a lot of intrigue and interest at one, hundred, fifty, five pounds because as of right this moment we do not have a champion there is no champion. So we have to figure that out which Aka and I will do onto the next one at least try to do the best we can but we'd like to get your opinions on that. What do we do one? Hundred fifty five pounds if you guys want to talk about Habib retirement whatever you WanNa talk, Whitaker's big win. By the way I go through the bonuses before we go to the to the questions Habib obviously gets a bonus with with his final victory or what seems to be vinyl victory. Monument Ankle I said, you know what? I want this rivalry it'd be done. We're not gonNA mess around anymore. That was a phenomenal performance guys not an under the radar to oh five or anymore. Big. Win for him and then the fight of the night. Obviously Casey Ken Iverson annual would. Just, a joy to watch. Unbelievable what a great fight that was. As you're thirty twenty speaking a bad cards thirty, twenty, seven for Kenny. I thought. Kenny. Won The fight. That's pretty Shitty scorecard wo wo. WAS ON. Happy. Question. Time for a little dipper. Rent. Oh, do it. Would it. Because I went eleven out of eleven with my non-drowsy non-drowsy picks. Tonight I'm allowed to flex a little bit I. Think Here's what I wrote about. Here's the first line I wrote about Robert Capriccio Kenny did I Did I missed the memo in which everyone decided that Robert Whitaker is no longer one of the top two middleweights in the world the like it started with with. Of course against eating I, I'm looking forward to a fight with jared can the air whatever Kenya's? Is. The Nice thing to say but was and I don't think he made this way but it was a little disrespectful to the fact that he was booked to fight whitaker. and. Then all like. So many producers I see like saying Oh. Even, I think the video I don't remember they ran a video for whitaker. They probably didn't have missed it but I do remember them running for here and I'm just thinking like man, this is really presumptuous and. I know you want to applaud them for billable contender ahead of time. But what is what? What was the people overlooking Rob Whitaker? I think that's awesome like, oh, he's he's past his prime I'm like how old is he now is thirty. Two twenty nine he's not even thirty right. He's twenty, nine, twenty to. Thirty And it's like he looked great in the deer until quite i. think he looked great in both Romero fights and other were close vice was those fights were frigging amazing. Those fights are not like anyone who's saying like, oh, he he looked. Because he didn't dominate Romero who dominates around frigging incredible. So Again to me. He's still the number one contender until until someone takes it which again I'm saying I'm not saying in your couldn't do that but there was just this weird air of. Disrespect. Surrounding the reaper and admit it upset me. It upset me because he's I think he's still a great great batteries nowhere nearer he's in his prime is nowhere passes Prime So I'm glad he showed up today and put in such a strong performance. Listening to Daniel Cormier commentary like I've been watching the fight but just listening to as commentary I would've thought Cannon Air Be Whitaker thirty twenty. Five. DC, moments tonight, he had some moments where he may have neglected. Some of the work of one of the fighters does a few like that. I didn't speaking of a Wacky scorecard and then I'll go to you Casey Rob. How did you score that Fight Aka? I scored it thirty twenty, seven whitaker. How did I score three twenty but again, it's one of those thirty twenty seven, I, don't think reflects. How well can an as well? Can you're had some very, very good moments he was he was battering whitaker's leg. I mean that it's not his fault that Whitaker's made a frigging iron because a lot of fighters with the amount of leg kicks that can near landed it would have really changed their game plan. They would have really been feeling it somehow whitaker you can see the color changing this leg and it didn't seem to affect his mobility at all so. Again. That's a credit to whitaker not noticing anything away from Kanye carrier great fights. So thirty, twenty, seven, but a couple of rounds certainly close but but. Good fight. Overall. Really. Good fight. Would you have given him Kennedy any round outside of round one? I don't know you know. Did you see the scorecard I'm looking at right now which is weird. Watch. I was surprised. 'cause I was close round. Okay. So if you gave it to cannon air. I scored it for whitaker still even though Candian lighting his leg up on fire, but it was still have gave it to one judge gave Kennedy around one two judges gave candy around too. Yeah Yeah. It's again the judge tonight bad bad cards. You know a little strange. That's why they have three judges. That's I guess you know so. I. Don't know that was I was a kid who run that third round. He would have won the fight which is crazy. Well, it thankfully again thankfully worked out a lucky. It was at least in the end was a it was a unanimous decision So the the right call was made but you're right the way we got there was a little confusing. And what do you want to say about that Casey. Robert, the rules. That's aw. Man So. Good. Yeah. I agree if they came out people were you know I guess you you must've forgot type of stuff of whittaker pictwittercom coming into this fight. I the people were sleeping on him because I think all the all the PROMOS and Izzy were talking about Cana near and is he doesn't seem to be maybe maybe things are going to change now but is he has never seemed to be very Didn't didn't like the of a rematch of Robert whittaker right now I mean I think he wants new opponents new guys matches just don't doesn't just not into it right now so I think that's why I think has fans who wanna can't near to win because we wanted cannon near a fresh matchup but. I I didn't agree I didn't like despite taste in the first place because I thought here and earned his title shot, and now we lose contender you know so. UC matchmakers. That's what they won't. Even bigger. Yeah for those. For, those keeping score at home. Crystal new going. Appoint. Point for crystal. Suck. Crystal second don't do anything all right. I'm just saying. Because he got two judges gave him around to so he didn't have enough crystals did he did use a corruption Chris Yeah there was crushing Christo Yeah. So which I think is a little a little a little underhanded. But I just want to say. I'm I'm a man of science right I give credit for Chris Do. Bright colors, racking up fight night bonuses and going on win streaks saying. Maybe crystals do something. But when something like this happens gets wet Chris Sale. All right. The stupid crystals. Ville. I'm just saying. Out in the Youtube comments crystals that's all I'm saying that's Robert Whitaker says coffee coffee more powerful than crystals. So that looks like I had more copy than he had crystals. So someone's love it yeah whitaker. said. Candidate just needed more crystals maybe and I think because the pandemic and and the visas and travel issues of going into orbit it'll be I'm sure there was a limited amount of crystals he could bring in from the states. So there's if this fight was at the Apex Kennedy wins up by easy Bro. Easily only. Going off the rails here. Let's. That's bringing the let's. Say What did they want to talk about? What did they WANNA talk about been Jesus is Hard this is I mean it was just a great card right off the bat started off with Joel Alvarez with a quick submission win. You looked very good I'm ready. Maverick would debut for her new that Do you think just one the first round. No I don't think you want the I don't. missed. It I think around was very close but I think Habib taking them down mounting him in going for submissions at the end of the round Seger for him I'll add that I think some of the early success might have. Made up some of the judges is the fact that he didn't take. He did off a couple of early take downs. He was quote unquote maybe it looked like he was forcing to fight his fight though again I think if you watch it again, you'll see he'll be was doing pretty much what he wanted. But think because the state at standing that probably influenced one of do we say two of the judges scored it for just two? They must've thought well, you know if it's a standing fight, that's how she wants. Okay. You must be must be dictating the action, but that's I don't think that's what happens impression of judge. Well see this is our judge talks. Voice. Where's your monocle? I don't have any money, but yes, I the on it but we all modern. So, it's a closer out but I think the NCAA. Got Mount Mount. Any any had armed bartenders. COUPLE OF LAKES and a couple of punches that didn't really seem to affect Abib. Doesn't that doesn't. Outdo a taking get taken down mounted. Verizon just turned on five G. across the country with the coverage of five G. nationwide into more and more cities. The unprecedented performance of ultra wideband the fastest five G. in the world ultra wideband is so fast. You can download an album in seconds phrase and five G. 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Our good friend Tristan Gord add just right after the zoo it. We're GONNA sit around. We're not mincing words onto the do in the lightweight division since Habib's just retired, will you do? Will they do McGregor versus poor for the vacant title? Do you sit up chandler versus Ferguson or Channa versus gay? Ak Do you have a thought on this initially of course, we're going to let it all out all our lightweight divisional title implication chatter out onto the next one. But your initial thought just hours after this pay per view. Obviously GonNA. Put onto it before record our show but I'm not I don't know why you know what it is. It's the promotional work that guides me I'm not sure who I want face him. I WANNA. See Michael Chandler in there. I don't know why I think I think. They have really thrown Michael Chandler in our faces and Michael. Chandler. By the way is a guy who's just Ever See supercop doing media I'm not saying he's like the best like producing crazy soundbites or like cutting fiery promos but a guy who's comfortable like you want to put him in front of a camera for like forty five minutes and just talk he'll do it maybe you won't want him to but he'll do it. He's not he's he's going to represent he's very professional. The controversial is GonNa Represent Your company very well. A Lotta Camera Time Today. The game will promo even though he doesn't have A. Flight booked they had with antic and Cormet. Just kind of chatting chatting up airtime. This old me they told me I would not have a problem and the fact that they were willing to put him in there with Habib or tonight if something had happened either fighter says what they think of him so he can't be more than one fight away. So I say screw it. Now that we know abused try we're going to go vacant I want chanoine those people Chandler Ferguson would probably be my ideal. You know you take the last two guys who lost the sorry I lost one. One of the fighters tonight or Chandler. Gate you. I'M GONNA lean towards Chandler Ferguson. Chandler. Literally, one minute ago as you were talking, AK goes on twitter and said, and I just engage he won't WanNa wait. He said it tonight I'll be ready tomorrow. But I say I think I. Think Chandler is going to get that opportunity one because it made wait to because again the airtime in three like the more I thought about it heading into the retirement. Just. Like the way they filmed Habib leaving the hotel and going to the arena. With the with the Blues and reds all lit up. They showed basically the whole ride to the arena like he's leaving the hotel. Arriving was the whole ride, it was like it was crazy to watch because they didn't do that for gay Chee. This is like the Sandman at hardcore heaven winning coming in the ambulance they showed him the whole time in an overhead shot like it was. It was crazy. So it kind of makes a little more sets, but I have a hard time believing in Chandler just doesn't get that opportunity at this point the way that they're promoting him do you do Virga Syn probably? Ferguson. Has not been a happy camper as of late. So if you say, Hey, Tony Buddy, let's reconcile. Let's. Let's get back together. Here you've versus Chandler for the belt. What do you say I think that's where they go but either I think it's GonNa. Be Chandler. Versus somebody. Casey you of look on your face like. I don't know what do you think? The UFC likes to make money. It's going to be McGregor versus portray for the vacant title, and then as much as I love Chandler. He's a great fighter. He wasn't the torch champ guys. You know he's just he's just free agent. He was just a high ranking benadryl fighter. He wasn't there champ does not act like they didn't bring a champ over. So I wanna see Chen Ferguson and then gates versus whoever hooker it'd be anyone. But I like John Chen Ferguson, and then McGregor. For the title. That sells money. Real storylines there and China. But I think standard I I do think he needs to be a top top guy and I think Ferguson that guy and forgotten be Shantha. Awesome to you know when. Oh Brooklyn. We're I missed a comment, but we're talking about crystals and. We, we don't have a believer. Read this? We Literally Watch that man come back to life mid fight don't tell me they don't help and there I didn't get a chance to say that but the fact that Jerry Kanye did not get put away in the third round there is something to this Crystal Thing Aka I, accept your apology Ak we're moving on. Leading only letting Jessica get away with this nonsense and taking this nonsense any further I did see a comment that I want to talk about I. Don't think we need to go full question on that but it was. Could we see because I think today's well, he said it's my last fight but he said this is my last fight. Wondering. Oh is there a loophole could meet someone said seen? GSP and and Habib outside of the Chatri chatree get on that. All right. That's a perfect one. That's a perfect one fight two guys who was at the honor and integrity of May. So Chatree, I'm just saying make some phone call since emails and safely make that happen because I think the. Like twenty nine, million viewers. I think our last show or something that's that's pretty crazy for. For for the that's on the low end, I think I think that they get twenty nine million viewers like Oh disappointing they really. Hit that one hundred, million figure mark on average. Okay so As. You say all these things and they're literally odds they're lily odds that have come out on this. Jet Comes out the odds are who will just engage you fight next in the UFC after losing to Habib guest to the favorite is right now in the betting window. Just engaging. Connor. Tony Ferguson. Plus One, ten, a rematch. Plus. When forty Habib plus answered questions like why why Habib is still in their connors plus three. Chandler's plus five hundred even Donald ceremony getting the rub it plus eight hundred. Casual yeah I don't know. Why where's this question? We're question that just you put up. Casey whereas. How can you justify? How can you justify? Connor No one can just like you. Justify it Casey doesn't just fight AKA doesn't justify you OUGHTA OUGHTA. Abe Lincoln Justifies Benjamin Franklin justifies it the big fat checks that will be written upside? Justifies it less your heart? Bless your heart you in Casey just to such you're innocent souls. But yes if people are willing to pay for it than it is justifiable. So I'm not saying none of us are saying we want anyone saying like Oh you should get easier guaranteed a teleshop but. CONOR McGregor you world titles he normally fills arenas when we're not in the Penn pandemic era and sells purview. So yeah, it's not it's not fair but still bear in combat sports it's. Fair then who fairly deserves the next title shot then? Why he just Austin I. Might see fairly deserve it but when he was so dominant Ron what I don't know. I mean. To me, there's no clear case for anyone to be honest. So money is the case. Yeah I Am I forgetting whom I am I forgetting someone I mean I don't know. My just not. Like who has a clear case? To fight bill but idol Michael Chandler because he hasn't five of title yet got. Listen. There's one listen the one guy who has the longest winning streak in the division right now currently outside Habib is Charles Oliveira. He it'd be a shame if he never fought for UC title. Don Dominated Kevin Kevin. Right. You want, right? Yeah. Yeah diminishes by super exciting like. He's a great stylistic matchup for I was going to say for a couple of you but I guess it doesn't matter. Anymore, but he should buy. If. They made it if they made it like gatekeepers Charles Oliveira something or Ferguson Air for baking title I wouldn't have skim off a loss. So we're going to see Charles Oliveira versus. For the one title. I lost in like. Twelve straight fights but now it's an l. Bro at one one. They they. They never give fighters title shots off of losses. Well, we're talking about who fair? Fairly I hate you candy a hey, you handily. I'm sorry Greg. Reportedly apparently is going to be at one seventy. So which would you early makes no sense literally makes us. They're gonNA fight at one, seventy, one, hundred, and fifty, five title. That makes sense actually I see that that. While people mad at me I have another team. That's. All I. GOTTA. Watch the comments that I want to explode when I say this and I tweeted this earlier. I think. But I think people smart people got it but. I don't. And our viewers are smart. So I expected to explode in agreement. Shafqat Rachmaninov showed as much today as we've seen what he did tonight against Alexander Lavar wasn't impressive as anything that comes extra. My F- has done and the Ot Safari I'm just saying I'm just saying if we're going to we're going nuts about the wins over reese McKee and John Phillips. Some meeting of veteran Alex Oliveira is insanely impressive I. Don't think Aloe Vera is is is I would say a higher caliber fighter than John Phillips and Joe. You're very good but I think. I would say like a close to a top of Dean he's been ranked before. So I think it's a big win. It was short notice for for cowboys for sure. So but he missed weight which normally supposedly gets people an advantage and and he lost not two now. So I want people. So I'm not saying get off the train. I'm saying stay on the train and also get on the Rochman trade that be on to transit wants is what I'm saying. I don't think that fiery I mean I think that's okay. For first of all first of all, you can't be onto trains at once that's just you know you can that that that's going to hurt can't do that. So. Pick a train pick a train. All right. You can hop between the trains. To the same station you. Well what else do we? Does Lauren Murphy get a title shot at one, hundred, twenty, five pounds she good Lord, you want one, she's cutting some promos. Good Lord listen she has she has an argument she has an argument. If, you WanNa talk about the NGO leaf fight and say that you don't think she won that fight. That's fine. You can say that and there's a lot of people who would probably agree with you. At this point, every media member on ever made decisions scored that Angelique fight for Angie Leeann not Lauren Murphy's Law Murphy has won four or five in a row she dropped Roxanne Mata ferry on her dome the last five, her most recent fight she she could have not fought on this card fought Cynthia, Calvillo. In three weeks or a month a one of these November. December cards solidified the title shot. No she stayed on this card and fought a relatively unknown fighter who has a pretty Unbelievable. Reputation from an international perspective Olympic wrestler very tough fight unlike a week's notice. And you're risking it all and she went out there like join. Calderwood. Risk it all and got finished Laura Murphy goes in risks it all gets a Finnish of her own now. I. Know It's two totally different things we're talking about two totally different people but still not a lot of fighters would have stayed on this card. Do I think Murphy has has an argument short she does okay. Just drives right now, the number one ranked contender in that division because she be gala to Gaijin, she got the number one spot. So if you want to give it to an judge, that's fine. If you want to Murphy versus Calvia that's fine. If you WANNA do Murphy. Verizon drudge that's fine too. I said on onto the next one last week as long as androgen fights either the winner of Chanko versus Maya Lauren Murphy or Cynthia Kallio next I have no issues and I still stand by that. Case. You tweeted shortly after that you wanted to see Murphy and entourage. You said that you believe that's the way they should go rhino right if if if if if the youth doesn't need someone for a quick turnaround for. I'm going to assume Shevchenko wins against my we're. We're GONNA. We're. GonNa we're GONNA. Put that out there if my. Somehow just doesn't beat Django your. Canes the title in the You've seen these equipped they they need a quick turnaround then no just be Janko vs on drudge if they think there's GonNa be a break then it should be dry versus Murphy and put that on a very featured fight on a pay per view or. I would. I would. I would like it to be a main event on a fight night. So we can get a nice five rounder there and I think that will sending but actually but I think Murphy honestly I think Murphy I I keep forgetting. I'm thinking is going to be out for a while, but it sounds like she's GonNa be out for a few more weeks. So I would just rather just run back. Murphy. Versus Vio sometime this year and then yeah. That I think the most likely thing I do think they'll just run back Murphy Kobe. Oh I say I'm in favor of Murphy like in a perfect world I wish Murphy and android would both be guarantee tell shots not because I'm not because I'm saying a lot of them are necessarily like. Super Likely to. Upset. About Valentine's show Janko, but just because I think it's it's these are good opponents for her to build up for championship and I'm of the I'm of the person I prefer the Amazon Silva, George saint-pierre way of building a resume with like eight nine, ten title defenses. They're not all like amazing names but there's like the majority of them are strong names and every now, and then you have what's the equivalent of mandatory challengers. So I think needs some of those. Not. Everyone has to be like, oh my gosh. Can She be Valentinas? Sometimes champions wants to the champ. Go to work. Right. So but we know that's GONNA. Happen. We know we know you can't keep people waiting. It wouldn't be fair and graduated and Lauren Murphy 'cause where does that leave right and it's not fair to her people who got to fight the dependence gotta move but. Laura Murphy really just did like everything she could today though she gotta finish. She fought again like Mike when she didn't have to she cut a very good promo. If you're gonNA say Lsu pair the Promo and that's not a bad thing. I'm a Nerd I'm a research guy I'm like I believe in proper preparation. So people who are saying like, Oh, it didn't sound organic like she had been done I'm like good good. I. Hope she wrote it down and memorize the speech because that's that's a good thing. She she she knew what she wanted she she she she predicted that she would have a moment and she used it right so. Fans Roy Murphy. For preparing. For I saw that. Is. Ridiculous. I. Thought I saw that one of our streams someone was hating Jon good because John Good and said that when he was doing a scrum and he was saying he took a lot out to take so many notes and someone in our comments there there you should be watching it. I used to be shamed. was say like. I can't with this guy needs to do research should know who all these fighters are and I'm like. No. That's it. That's my response I don't want go on a rant about it but research is not a bad thing. If someone's doing research people, you should applaud it. That means they're doing their jobs. All right. It's not everyone knows everything about everything. I saw one of the comments during the way and show that we we got shamed for that knowing that is he for whatever his name was. was part of the list of fighters to be weighed in like nobody on earth knew that except for the UFC in izzy himself, he looked a little surprised when he went up, he looked a little surprised me. I'm weighing in. Africa. Don't give us. Listen. I understand the we're lawrence coming from I in this? Like this is a this is a this is two years ago and Lauren. Murphy fought Lilia Shocker Oba, larvae would probably a plus three thirty underdog in that fight like that's just that's just how people viewed her that just how her performances were. But this is a different fighter. This is a different fighter like her finishing Marar umbrella. The way that you did, I mean boroughs the different fighter back then to like she was looking good was on a good little streak ranked murphy put it to her and finished her then the Andrew Li fi again gets a little bit controversial. But the modified she dominated rocks out ferry and then dominate tonight. So she is in the conversation. Do I think she will get a title? Tyler. Shadow one, twenty, five next. No I don't think she's going to have to get another win unfortunately 'cause Valentinus shift shake. Let's remember she's not the most active fighter on the planet. So she fights every three or four months. If you get a twenty year, that's a bonus, the way her scheduled normally work. So if she if she's if her mentality is by next fight is fighting for the title, she might be waiting a long time. So I think he's going to have to get another fight in and make another impression if she gets another one in this year and fights, Calvillo and wins. She might jump the line, she might jump the one. Man. I've ever Murphy. Laura Murphy Hates Jennifer Maya, good Lord. have. A beef there was something going on. The Miot back the Mega Mirela backup our car and I scratch or something they wouldn't have happened. With that title fight. that. Contract Album Dang woman like Maya did submit in Finnish Dzhokhar would and re in around. No my title shot. She was INVICTA champ. She's fine. It's. No To Meyer? Up Janko. Take. Me But listen but that's those are the things you have to say yes exactly. Like Sh-. Laura Murphy today it was an a plus a plus she did the she did the most you could do tonight. Yes. There's. Done except like I'm flying to Balance Leadership Kinko's housing slapping across the Nothing. Done. So yes. She she deserves one, but you probably won't get one. I think I think that's that's a fair statement. Sure there's a lot we we could go for like six. Thank you. Very longtime commenter always always getting questions in. Omaha make sure is. Right. IS GOING GONNA cause lots of controversy, but we're going to go into answer it. Click AIDS. Come Eve has had the most dominant run but his this place in the goat list. overrated. Never fight of the year never never fighter of the year never cleaned up the division never rematch never moved up only three title defenses. He's twenty, nine hundred. Twenty nine in Oh he's last one round in his entire career. Is He the most active guy? No did he get injured a lot? Yes but he's he beat dominated high lemon every high level guys. And the tougher, the challenge, the batteries performed. I think he's I don't think he's His place in the goal is over eight in fact. I think we can make an argument that it was underrated that it was underrated, Aka? South I didn't think he was I didn't think he was the he was in I think I think you had in the top five somewhere But after today, I, think you probably bump them up a little bit. So it's fair to say he might be underrated not over overrated by crazy. No crazy. Irony already had him has greatest lightweight ever ever all promotions tonight and we'll Pitt's performance tonight he is. I don't have a problem if you want to say he's the greatest enemy fighter ever. Yeah. Yeah, he he's. He's as good as anyone we've ever seen. Yeah. It's not his fault that the Tony Ferguson fight fell through. One hundred times okay because that would have been right. That's a career defining. That's we always talk about moments right? That's that's one you only get opportunities from him. You create you only get like maybe five or six real real realm square that should have been one of them for him that I was going to be one of his moments it just didn't work out. He has no control over that. It's not his fault that some of the other greats that we think of like bj Penn.. Frankie Edgar their career the coverage didn't line up. You know what? I mean Frankie Edgar. Coming. Up with moving down to was moving down to featherweight. So he wasn't GonNa Frank Egger be Japan was already sort of easing out of his prime. We're kind of already entering the sad bj phase unfortunately so that I wasn't GonNa have. So those are two of the other names would think of his all time greats spence. Henderson went to went to bell tour. So if we're just talking with former champions and guys like that, he didn't have the chance to fight a lot of them reports. It's. Unfortunate he just didn't cross paths and for the record if we're just projecting I would take a prime no Magomedov over prime of Japan Prime Franken Edgar or prime pets, Henderson stick strictly speculative I if people want to argue otherwise because NPD pen, one of the most talented fighters I've ever seen in my entire life to this day. I. Think He'd be a little too small and I think I think I think we saw. I, think. It might be even more dominant version of how those fights went though the first flight BGN was close. But. He's not. Why? Career wise I still don't think he's had the best career. Even I know undefeated record looks tastic but I'm saying quality upon it. Just I don't think it matches up to some of the other people. and. It's not his fault but he is but he is as good as anyone I've ever seen like if you WanNa say is he you know is he has a great fighter and maybe the greatest that he's not number one on my list but I don't think he's overrated to answer the question civically now it's not it's not overrated. What I've seen people throw this out. Oh, we only have three defenses. I don't care about that stat because having the title only means especially you have see just men's that he didn't get a title shot until the UFC felt that he can make money off them like Syria many he went nine and Oh, and the UFC he fought for a title which was the interim title was entering wait we fought against I I quit I quit to. The real. That was real I was robots. A robot. So we've only had to fight nine times. So but like how many times it John Jones have to before we got title fight like nine times I think we're times maybe. Five or six, five, five or six or something. Yeah. So I mean I. Am John Jones was they just figured out how we can sell this guy he we can make lots of money Habib. It took him a took a while for the years to understand. Okay. This is this is a big prize fighter we can make money from so. But on so you can't. You can't hold that against beep he was dominating everyone up to that point. Like I, put these timelines together you know to B- to. Become. An upcoming title fight and so many times like he would win fights and I realize we had almost nothing on 'em prefight because the U. of C. he was he was one of those guys dating bring for prefight media because he was. So just no I would only talk me big English. There's no interest in him. It wasn't until probably four or five wins in the UFC that. Ah. Okay. We'll start. We'll. We'll start bringing you guys get interview early you know so like. yeah. I just don't buy this whole. He didn't get tyler because that's strictly a promotional thing. Joe. It's their fault I'm not I'm not blaming. People, but people use as it has a deterrent. We how can you be the best if you've only won three titles? McGregor ran off with the title for a long period. That's not how. Like Yeah man that's. A lot of stuff out of his control. Yeah. He should. He could easily have had five or six or seven depends as easily if there's any sort of reasonable hierarchy. In the in the OC. So yes, you definitely have to really look at that with a little more scrutiny than just oh, three title defences like doesn't doesn't really tell the whole story they told Habibur amalgamate off that he was gonna Fight Eddie Alvarez a UFC tool for lightweight title they used him as a pond Yup. So McGregor could could could slide right in there and take the fight to take the title like it was crazy. Habib should have got that shot. So they they had Habib fight Michael Johnson instead he beat the brakes off of him talking to Dana. The whole time is he's punching Michael Johnson in the face and then cuts the promo of I, WanNa fight your chicken. And now is like when everything kind of changed getting Just, the reaction from the crowd at Msg when Habib was cutting that Promo was unbelievable. That's when. He realized like. All right yeah. Got Some I think it was I think that's when he broke out number one bullshit to. Think let's dissect the question of before. We move on this assistant never fight of the year I. Don't think that matters I. Think a lot of great fighters were never in the fight of the year John. John. Gustafson that's a good thing that's just talking about his dominance. Exist to get beat up. Yeah, I guess crazy come on. Just. Don't think ever in a fight of the Arab all the time about I can't mighty mouse I wouldn't say it was ever in the fight of the year. So I don't think that matters never cleaned out the division again like we had a lot of that was out of his control. And again, I would ask also he. Clean. Out. Ferguson. Other than Ferguson who else are we like Oh man I quit Charl there maybe but I don't feel like we're dying to see him fight Charles Oliveira. Going to happen never time soon either never rematch rematch did we WANNA to see Kobe do McGregor and now? Thanks it's good. I think I think we know what the better fighter there. Never moved up does not that to me is like the thing that matters the least when gauging someone's great. If you only one division, it's fine I don't care and we said it'd be talking about the title of in depth but I do appreciate the question John. Thank you for the question they could question question. What's It's a fair question. Yeah. Is a fair question. These are like between links kind of question. Yeah. Yeah. Like different opinions never fight I. Don't know if it's fight of the air are fighter beggar of the okay. He didn't even then he just wasn't active enough and if you did like it just. A lot of people like unless there's a title attached to it. There's not a lot of people fifty-five going be like you know what Oh i get to Habib Woohoo let's do it. Even on the way out on the way he wanted to take that fight like why would they know what's going to happen? It's going to get taken dining get smushed until you until. So I don't. Yeah. I don't think. I. Think overrated is unfair. The only thing that may be that'd be holding him back is the fact that Habib's done if the sport. Yeah. I'd say that's that's. Over he he's going out on top and I guess I don't know Priscilla back feel like he's leaving something on the table but it's really not that many unanswered questions Ferguson and that's about it. What's next four Maranda Mavericks? She is a problem. Yes, she is. Yes she is. That was that was violent performance fruitful. Great. Great. Win Over in early on. Jeju was like looking pretty good. She's moving while She's landed jab was leaning combinations, and then once she wants Miranda touched her that was it everything just changed but she looked really good if you wanted to throw. Her performance on tonight I wouldn't have been mad at Jeff because she made a big impact on those prelims but Casey, you've been following random for a while. Now to see you're finally get in their twenty and finally she's twenty three years. Old Maker UFC debut have a performance like that. What did you think of a watching it? She did a great has advertised. D-. I I'm bummed out but the stoppage because I think that was one of the just the the perfect. Girl stoppages you know when? The Other was a little blood. She had cut her nose and lethem stitches. We've seen so many we seen so much worse and stuff. So I was done that she was even controversies because it kind of from it but. She looked perfect in. The Great. Yeah I don't WanNa. See a rush. He's only twenty three Giver Yeah. Wherever some bottom tier twenty-five hours right now. To more of those before we they really push push pusher I i. hope they don't do with the give her the macy Barbara type of treatment. Now, just you know I, I don't think that type of personality either that that Dana won't you know. I'm the best ever you know but just you know build her up and. Yeah obviously when she had sworn in couple of years. I completed expect her to be a top five even better fighter. So yeah. The worst part about the conference is I. Think a lot of people might have missed. What caused the cut? They did a good job on the on the broadcast on the replay what the obstruct it was like a step in elbows beautiful elbow. Yeah. It was like. Twenty three year old fighters. Prospects are not regularly leading step in with that kind of accuracy in that kind, they might throw it out there but to lend it with that kind of accuracy and that kind of damage. That's crazy. Land. That's like when Chris wideman landed that step in elbow on Markman, we're also excited like this. The future champion I'm like I'm not saying I'm not guaranteeing Mavericks Feature Champion, but this is the kind of strike that you see. You see this strike and that'll be her highlight reel again for the next whatever having ear she decides to fight back whole man like this is this is why why she says big deal so. The cut probably should stop the fight but the strike that caused the hall. Beautiful. What's next for her though is keep stay in school keep working. Because she's she seems like a smart cookie worker that and then and the as she said herself man once she's done getting school out of the way. Who knows who knows what she can focus on fighting how dangerous is going to be? She's tough to match up right because either like you don't want to push too far or you don't WanNa. Throw Brig another prospect that you know that you'll do really well against. So it's like it's tough to match up at this point because like. Justin cash. That's the fight to make something like that I. think that's perfect there. That's perfect. Shot adoption kind of got on my mind but I don't WanNa. See that just because I think sean is better than advertised and she showed it. She's a gritty tough fighter, and then again, I don't know you have that story of like prospect killer which on adoption and the spoiler like I don't WanNa see like anti Shevchenko would have been a good one. But the of see like see so much value in her like that's worth like these are the fights initial chant goes should be getting not. Know not the Roxy. He's of the world and those the Caitlin Jenner. Keagan shouldn't be anybody in the top fifteen. But. That's that's where we're at right now she's just using the top fifteen, but yet build her slowly there's not to rusher she wants to be active. So letter be active, and let's start just engineer way up to start taking these contenders but she is she is very legit prospect to keep your eye on one hundred, twenty, five pounds, the four M's Giovanni and the question, the forum or Raw Miranda Miranda Maverick. Marshall Mix mixed martial. US Who deserves the title? Shot against out, Sonya. Well Robert Whitaker deserves the title shot I. Think we're all. Pretty much in agreement here but I think the problem is he probably won't get the next style because. We're to do. Robert to go onto. He wants to have Christmas wants to wait for the newborn doesn't WANNA fight till probably April at this point. It's I. Don't think it's GonNa. Wait that long. It's it's Robert Whitaker one of those people that puts up Christmas decorations. Before thanksgiving. He was talking about putting. Let's after he does after Halloween he's got lights up and inflatable santas in his yard and like early early November, he does live in Australia. Right? So everything's backwards over there. Casey. So you've got to remember everything's a little different there. So you know what I mean the. The decorations Mike Open a different time. Right. It's different the world over there. They're upset their upside down. You're right. You're right. You know when they flush the toilet, the water goes the other way I've heard that. Wow. Yeah Yeah he himself has said he was saying the interviews earlier this week that he doesn't. WanNa fight he's like look he was several times in different ways and he kind of he kind of kept insisting I. don't care about the title shot next I'm not in December I wanNA take the rest of the year off I want to spend time with family I want to get fat I. WanNa Enjoy Christmas only the end that he say like if it was a title Shot House for December twelve th of December nineteenth that he. Might not would have to work really hard to convince me to take that fight and I mess his team's kind of on the same page just him. Would probably you know they might try to convince them I. Don't think they got hard to convince them I. Think they'll be happy leading either till or Hermansson. Step in there for Telus shot or of course. The other Z possibilities which I don't want a whole other discussion but. I guess that's what this person asking. But as far as just a middleweight title picture I think it's till medicine next because whitaker is going is going to take time off. Is this like. Because of the drawing power and all that stuff is this like. Okay. If till wins, we haven't midway title fight, but if Hermansson wins. I, think we bump them at this point like I just. I don't know it's tough sell in I liked jacker man he's like one of the friendliest fighters on the planet I could talk to that guy for an hour but. Not a big draw ninety. Near. Jericho convincingly. Yeah. I don't know that fight just got a lot bigger though I'll tell you that right now. So so Hermansson wins we said we already said Whitaker one Hermansson wins. Then the doors open for guest I guess John John Immediately in the minds of matchmakers jumps the fort like the just try to make up by top somehow. I don't know I don't I don't know if you have to if he has to be because I see a lot of people saying it's got a he's got to beat which when that title before he fights John Jones I don't agree with that at all like I. Think you just make you make the Jones fight if you want but because we're. hovis. Champ. going. Gees now that that's going to feel the he he. No I think. I think they'll go ahead. I think there is a chance for izzy whitaker but only if Regulations Change and New Zealand or Australia where they actually have I know New Zealand's as far as like Kobe. There on the forefront and they're probably of all the countries in the world right now there during during one of the best that's the show. If I could see them doing izzy would occur in New Zealand I. Know this is a stretch because UFC so focused on vegas fight island but I could see that and then I've been crowds there so early. First quarter of twenty twenty one if they have a four Rena and New Zealand as a lot of hoops to jump through Internet with international travel and everything. But if they load half that card up with Ozzy and. New. Fighters. and. Then just have to bring a few Americans know the two week to quarantine everything I see he as a possibility. So I just went out there. And you know when make things easier Casey if they didn't say Oh, well, we have built with like we gotta. Have Twelve fight card. For. That for an event like that if you actually get people back in the arena. You could do a six by card eight, five card. I got obsessed New Zealand Australia fighters again, whatever makes it easier because you mentioned the the full crowds those those were for for game like soccer games where football where Teams from the area right so you know you're not dealing with travel. So that's what they have to do. Then they don't have to. They probably find twenty four fighters from new. Zealand and show is the main event combet vulcanology versus I don't know who the number one contender right now forty five but all Brian Ortega. There you go. Bald O'Brien Bob Bryan you've. SHAPE. One or two. So one or two international names, right? Yeah. So You. Don't need a four, twelve, car eight, fight card five, six, five, three, three up plenty to. Who prelims to to good prelims on ESPN to get people revved up to pay their money for the pay per view and there you go. That's it. That's it. Dana Dana. Dana think think outside the box we are tried to help you. You'll see. Clearly this multibillion dollar company needs that's what I'm saying they did our ideas. Put, tie to us on the Car Bradford del on the car you put Jake Matthews on the car. Well Lackey Jamie Malaki. Before this question did one on one more thing about waiting though waiting for an opportunity. wicker's in different situation but I was thinking about this. The born Murphy questions asked I just don't want to and I think this is a I don't WanNa make the thing now but I don't want fighters to Leeann Edwards themselves the new phrase I'm using that because. I think everyone has seen the before I guess the last couple of Days Leon Edwards. Sort of being removed from the rankings and then immediately being books I though now officially guess against talking about Leeann Ed. Yeah I'm just saying, I'm just saying like spiders apparently have to be careful because it's it's waiting unless there's only certain fighters that can wait forever like the Magritte's the world and had that kind of leverage. John Jones. Leeann. Edwards is unfortunately is not in that range spite being a legitimate could top ten guy that means nothing to the. The literally nothing they they have all the leverage in this situation. And now he's ending up extraordinarily difficult fight which I think you can win I, mean I I I. I'm waiting to see what the line is on this fight with Shemaya, but it's still really dangerous opponent. So little to gain I I. Don't know I don't know. I think I. saw mine. Edwards is. Minus one seventy five. That's a reasonable should be favored. He should be favourite. He should yea one, seventy, five, hundred exactly. Actually. It's. What's up? So I? Have Shemaya have his mind as one forty. They're all over the place all over I. Asked on twitter 'cause I didn't actually know the answer was the last time a top five fighter on a win streak mind you fought someone outside of the top twenty. Short notice not sure. The best ones only came up with Oh. Yeah. Cub Swanson who was on a Wednesday he just wants. Beats Super Boy. Fight of the year he fought in a main event fight night against the goat artem. No Bov. which is a ridiculous at the time. was up by books going back in time real quick. Why was 'cause local is the number one even though he's he's not ranked officially he's like the number one on it's like he's like beyond ranking. Yeah exactly. Like aside rankings that we can't access but like he's just assumed to be number one at the top of that ranking, know about all the time champions by. Whoever whoever pull that though good poll. Yeah. So yeah. So Shemaya is the new arm Lubov. Wow, that's lofty, and now the hype train is chugging. Yeah I mean. It's tougher. Leon. You felt bad for him for a little while like once once the Woodley fight ended and then you saw a Gilbert Burns did. To, get to he's at and. Then getting the title shot, but he couldn't make it, and then it just because see someone asked you this on twitter like didn't didn't on Edwards turn turn down a bunch of fights I don't know like only a few select people know the answer to that question because Leon said that other people turned him down and then vice versa. So nobody really there's there's like three or four people on this planet at. The answer to that question. But then it just eventually you just. Calling the shots and stuff that just isn't going to happen like you know you're not getting a title shot you know you're not fighting at all. You know you're not fighting Covington it's just not going to happen like it's Take the wonderboy fight like. I cannot believe that never happened very like whether it was offered or not what is happening here but now like since you're you're ready to go and you know like to get in there and fight and you're kind of backed up against corner. Shammai is the best option available right now. Either way it's a win win for both a win win either way because of Edwards, beets husband comes out of he gets all the Mojo back like whatever we had is back and probably even more when he goes out there and it's Leon, Edwards in his fourth UFC fight. That is ridiculous. That's humongous and he's the real deal and you could probably give him a title shot right after that. Whatever whatever the reports? Of how does every situation manhandled? One thing one thing we know for sure now now that the dust someone settled, he did not get what he wanted. Okay. I don't know there's is no way whatever whatever it was offered with over whoever's didn't want to find him wherever he didn't WanNA fight. This is not the conclusion that he was looking for. So I'm just saying fighters and people in life in general just be careful. No No. What you have in your hand. Okay. Just saying what what is worth I also want to say I feel bad for Neil Magny. Because Dana White's like who wants to fight this killer. I'll fight him and it's like who wants to fight this guy Anyway anyone out there. Okay I guess, no one wants to fight him. He's so scary. Nobody wants to buy them. So Porno Magny four no Maggie we see. We see it is it is in the record we know you wanted to buy. Everyone other people need to know he wanted to. Put that out there in the universe. I, agree I like this I like this question actually. After watching this fight, you change how you think he'll be versus Ferguson would go. What was your still think I still think it'd be would I thought to be beat him from the get-go me too. So no I I think he'd beats I honestly and I like Tony Ferguson like we've had some good conversations over the years I can't talk to him now because he's under new management. So it's a lot more difficult than it was like three or four years ago but. I just don't think I think it'd be able to beat him worse. Now. than. They fought it UFC two nine back in the day or whatever. Or I was definitely flying the Ferguson flag for a long time I. If you'd ask me this two years ago I? Probably would have still would have said, I think that Ferguson is like the you know the best possible guy who could match up with he's unpredictable. I think it's scrambling ability. He's top notch He's a he is a good wrestler. Wrestler and I thought I would have said is striking is better than. No Magomadov I don't know if it is, but it's what I would have said. Now again, as we're talking about age I, think I think Tony is thirty seven. Now thirty seven years old. That's a lot of a lot of mileage a lot of hard fights lot of mileage. And based on what we've seen the improvements in. Habib's game and maybe some of the limitations of Ferguson's game kind of exposing the case you fight out I. Don't know if you, WanNa call it that but. I'll say I I am now fully I know you guys were already on it. So I'm the I'm the one who's late here. But after seeing tonight I'm like I can't imagine picking Ferguson to. Fight. So I think I think bring Tonio raises a good question here. I agree with the with the skillset that Habib has now versus say when it was originally booked twenty years ago or something like that. So, Yeah Yeah Yeah I think maybe when a B Ferguson one was booked. Ferguson one one that you know but I think I think the Habib that retired tonight. Yeah Want to talk for. Two more questionable. We actually have Saturday night I. Know I know I got this and this is how I want to spend it. On here, the next. Guy. You. Just. Just carry laptop around your home with. Did while we brought up the next question. Do you WanNa talk about what Phil Hostage Tonight? That's right. We're good of questions talked with other fights on the. We want to talk about. All right listen. Everyone on this and our staff is busting my chops about philosophy. You give me the single camera. I want busted my chops bill bill because. There's multiple reasons. One I thought it was weird that they did a six card and insisted on throwing to UFC debutants on it fill and COON coon his fifth like forever. It just didn't make sense to me and again I am the person who doesn't produces for the site. So it just meant like another three paragraphs I had to write. So yes, there was some bias on my part some some laziness. Which is why I may not have wanted to see another flaming car. The other thing is Bill Hawes. I think most most hardcore may fans no is has been on the kind of the hardcore prospect list for for years I mean, he appearance on ultimate fighter he ended that he's a former training partner or John Jones I. Mean When you look at the Guy Fight, you just see glimpses of of greatness certainly saw night. But. I was also kind of Joe Madison this Guy Ever GonNa make the AFC. He did fighter. He did the contender series twice the first time he didn't make it. He's fought for bill. Torrey suffer world series of fighting has fought for brave conversation and it's like he's thirty one which and still young in in. Years when you see any athletes over thirty start thinking man, they were GonNa get that call. So part me, it was like man, I can't believe this still trying to make Phil Ha's happen. You Know Ha funny me. Sure enough, the did keep trying to make villa's happen Phil did happen and all over Jacob Tonight. So you'll hear no more Phil House slander for me. Okay. You'll hear no more slandered fill is performance with amazing eighteenth knockout Let's give them give them the to Maya Push I. If you want to say you WanNa play blocks tomorrow go for whatever you guys want to say I'm just ninety my head and shutting off. Job. He Yeah is the guy the guy paid his dues and I honestly and no respect to Jacob Outgoing I. Think I said this on twitter maybe one day Jacomb Malcolm will be the light heavyweight champion of the world or the middleweight champion of the world nobody really knows. But on this very night considering like like if you just look at their record, go to eat boat their technology pages. Okay. Jacomb balchunas fighting Phil Hawes, who's WHO's the top guy at four now okay. Phil fought Lewis Taylor at four. Now many fought Jillian Marquez on the contender series at four and one like this guy. was brought up like to be at prospect. Them to the wolves, and then rather than give up like in and get not got got beat badly in two consecutive fights. This do could have stopped he stopped, but he went back he paid his dues world series of fighting. Went on, flew over an offer brave and. Fought some international guys and took those long fights like the guy has officially paid his dues. So this is all good for him like that's why I felt like he had a he I didn't think he was GonNa win and eighteen seconds, but I knew this wasn't getting out of two minutes built. A legit guy, and he's got the experience and he's got the fact that now he's paid his dues gone through the ups and the downs of the of the sport at such a young age. She's only thirty one years old. Like. He's going to be something to watch champs like he's got someone to watch. What do you do with them Casey? What do you? What do we do with Phil House now? Did. Tonight, do you not get out? You know. Goliath. Yeah eighteen second knockout not enough I. Guess you know what? He only didn't get that because of his opponent. I. Think. I mean if there was if there was a top ten guy does Derek Brunson on the other side of the cage amount eighteen seconds no way of course, he gets the case Oh. Men Yeah Poor Jakup Mock Jake Jacob. I'm Jacob. Also I. Think there were definitely going to give Habiba bonus with with a good performance, even especially after the end. Then after he retired I, think we have to send them out with that performance months. Yeah Bill Hawes Yeah I. Who who who divide? Someone. Right. Right. Right. Outside the top fifteen I would think you know. It's can't think of a name right now. Actually. Liked. Eric Enders is like the Guy. I would throw all these like products like Eric Anders. But I feel I feel like that's where to go. What about like Zak Cummings I think he faces another newcomer. I these guys. As you have so much experience and again like I said, he's he's had more high level experience than most guys who are. Nine and four, hundred eaten four whatever he is he's had a lot of that is against quality competition but still I think they'll try and find, and as he says, he wants to turn around quickly I think they're gonNa find someone of Vitamin Vegas whatever in the next six weeks or something just answering. There you go. He's going to Vegas. You do you put him against the the middleweight gatekeeper? grads of ARSE. As find out where he's at this okay, we know we can. We can hurt people. Go, divorce. You're not invited onto the next episode of Hashtag onto the next one. All right you're not invited. I'm giving I'm GonNa give my answer since they book they didn't listen to the walking Buckley idea that I had and they booked him against Jordan right which I liked that fight by the way of a fluffy. Hernandez versus Phil. HAASE's is the fight to make Oh. Yeah. Yeah. That makes more sense. Yeah. We'll. Tune in tune in to. Bigger things but whatever opinion Given one more. Okay. I'm not giving them. Random Maverick slow bill. Hawes. Boys ready he's ready. To give of a title shot after fight. Island. So lightweight. Do we have any more questions or. Talk about both what Harris nobody would even talk about that as a question about it? Certainly we can. Yes, the question is. Man Why why the wires Health. From the truck. Yeah. We were saying before the show it is promotional malpractice that they did not. W-. Traditionally Delta this obviously not the United Blanchard a story was it dominated the narrative of tears this fight with. As. Shit, this is a this is a really really tragic. Real life story I think waltz did an amazing job of handling sort of the media that came along with it because I think he would have been very justified in saying look I don't want to talk about this story. It's it's it's I can give you some quotes but I don't want to do an ESPN special on it. I don't want to build it into this video, but it's my understanding that all the all the weaving that sort of. Personal tragedy into into the building fight. I imagine him and his family sort of okayed that. So whether people agree with it or not. At least I, think we know that that walters okay with it and but also front was really tough but that was replaced right? I mean he was supposed to fight over its original booking. Of course, and then the the incident happened of course, and so I think he wanted to get back that was for him for sure he looked up to over him. So win or lose out with. The bulk of booking was a little more confusing. I think we all WanNa See Walt Harris gotTa Win. I'm not saying he's he's a good fighter and nothing he's a guy on his hand held and like Oh let's say he doesn't need a charity case but there's winnable entertaining fights and good stylistic masters for him that could really Kinda give people to. Feel good moment they wanna see with walters and Alexander Volkov was not up so good for block off again that when he looked great tonight but I do wish that I do that for a while Harrison next fight where they're a little more careful with with the mapping. Truth be told I picked while Harris in our comes. The championship wait for Volkov that that concerned me it really did because that was like eighteen pounds heavier than the fight before Muslim Curtis Blades I. that's still a lot of muscle. That's. Thirty feet tall. He's thirty feet tall. So that's that's huge. That's. Just an extra five pounds on the dumbbells. That's that's what goes up the extra seventeen pounds though. I got I got I got a little concerned and then I saw walt who would normally be around there. He was looking yet looking pretty trimmed up. I. Was like all right. We got we got an in shape. All Harris apparently have a fat volkoff Lukaku got out of shape and and miss not the case but. Like. Concerned me why I kind of lean while Harris. He had to do it early which we knew kind of like after the first round like on wall looked pretty good. He was getting inside he's land some shots and then once Volkov started getting his rain Atlanta's cakes and you could tell. Demeanor changed yeah you saw like boy. Oh boy this is not good but hey, I think I think the fight to make now. Is. Maurice Greene and Greg Hardy are fighting next week on the main card give wall. Harris. One of those guys winner or loser I think that makes sense like Maurice Greene more screens a guy that's like. He's the perennial top twenty twenty-five guy. So if he goes out there and beat Greg Hardy is GonNa get a little bit of a little bit of buzz. You know little more fanfare because people you know how people view Greg Hardy. Given that fight, it's a winnable five Walt Harris that would give them a nice little rub. What are they fighting again? What they next week Halloween Really Yeah. That's an appropriate Halloween because many weird weird. Fights on that card they booked it right they booked it right for. Hall I'm Brian Hall was supposed to be on there. Right and nothing's Halloween, like the master of the fifty fifty position. So. I know I know they didn't do it intentionally to kind of theme it Weird Weird freaky fights for Halloween. But they almost like it was really hot something there. Yes. Yes. You're right. Yeah. That's a wrap. Yeah. I'll give mark next week it'll be fun. Yeah. Give wires I get. Whoever Tom Aspinall just beat someone like that. I'm not sure who. Yeah. Right. I don't think well. WHO On the contract so. We. We see a lot of fires lose and I just forget them about a week later so in the contract. So one of those fine gentlemen should face here's the next. Yeah. I got I. Got Things to do gentlemen. We. Actually got more. We actually do have more work to do but I mean, I always say thanks to everyone who tuned in and we had we had a when we still have a few thousand people watching insane but that's because our viewers are fantastic. And we get to do it again next week. In every week through December nineteen looks like December. Nineteenth the cut off for the rest of the year. Not, GONNA do a post Christmas card. On. Christmas we don't know that's the way. The good. Get some good viewership. So by next week, Anderson, Silva looks to be the final fight of his career against riot hall. Got Bryce. Mitchell. Andre. In the KOMEDA that's great. Fight we have. More screeners to Greg Hardy. Alexander Hernandez versus Chris Ritz macher I've a feeling. There's GonNa be some Halloween. Stuff going on fight just A. It's a pretty good card. It'll be fun perfect October thirty first kind of power and next week the second the second highest anticipated by the year Masasi. Versus, Lima. That's right. Yes on Thursday. I'm very excited I'm very excited. I hope it's I hope it's the most amazing draw ever because I love those gentlemen and I don't want to lose but I wanted to punch each other and be awesome. But Oh man, I'm so excited for that. cleese place your kicks appropriately Oh. The so bad. There's just too much too much of that going on in the ballot orcades these days but that fights great I did talk to Sassy on Riday I. think There's Air Friday. So that'll we'll probably pop that on the next couple of days was good stuff besides he was just as friendly and funniest aliens by the way out shutouts by Jose Young. Show but this is I think he is now done with his fight island tour of duty as works out this current tour of duty profile you guys might not see Jose around for a while so. I will check out him out and I will say he's also very thankful for all the viewership and all that guys you've got videos. and tuning our live streams. But assured you love you all very, very much. He loves to work hard for you guys. But yes, he hopefully he's will return back to the good old survey. Sometime this week we hope Monday but we don't know and. Given out, the travel has been and because he's now he's been on down for about it feels like a year. So so please please send nice messages to Jose Jose Young's. Twitter and just let him know how much you appreciate his efforts. The guy is. The guy is a maniac and we love it. Absolutely. So two, fifty, four at least for now put a bow on it. Habibur Maga made off the go. This is career the undefeated undisputed lightweight champion of the world. So low happen at fifty five. So congratulations happy trails. Do Habib Moraga made off and That's it. So thank you all for. Spending this crazy week with us you have. C, two, fifty, four or five week has officially come to an end for Alex Lee for E. Casey lied and I and my CAC goodnight everybody. You're listening to the VOX media, podcast network.

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GSMC Women's MMA Podcast Episode 31: Revolving Door

GSMC Women's MMA Podcast

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GSMC Women's MMA Podcast Episode 31: Revolving Door

"Need Your daily fix of women's mixed martial arts from the UFC INVICTA FC Bella tour, one championship be in the loop has golden state media concepts. Got You covered? Get your fit. Some women semi. We've got you covered on golden state media, concepts, women they podcast. Thank you for tuning. Is that Yes emceeing? PODCAST brought to you by the US MC podcast network I'm your host are now Deli owner usual? I hope you're doing well for yourself. You your friends, your family whether you live in the states or nationally I. Hope you're doing fine. During a time of major uncertainty, stay safe. Be Healthy so with. One being just two weeks away here. One fighter, the more popular fighters in the AFC, being paid bents, so there are a lot of fighters now in the past. Given fighters in years have complained about fight purses and fighter comics. I've complained one hundred comics for the longest time. But the newest person here being page Vincent's so. So is being matched up against Amana. rebus at Yancey fifty one. At. Fight Ireland sobia very fun. Unique fight appropriate in dance, because this will also be payments last fight inner UFC contract. Visiting reported in MMA JUNKIE USA Today Dot Com that Patriots is confident testing free agency actor UFC two one. My value doesn't change whether I. Win or lose. This is being written in by Danny Guerrero. Thank you for Ryan's. Nothing will stop page from testing the free agency markets, the UFC strong is determined to find out of your contract and becoming free agents after you F C Two fifty one on July eleven in Abu, Dhabi fight Ireland van, who was inning for intermixed martial arts career, five and three in the AFC takes on Brazilian prospect memory bus in the opening bout review mean card. The fight with rebuffs is the last out on her UFC contract paid. Is. Patriots is excited for the future despite its uncertainty. I have my heart sets, and nobody is wanted to change my mind that I'm fighting my contract out there than told ESPN. I don't know where my future lies I. truly don't. That's kind of an exciting thing. In my life I've been with the AFC for six years now and through this time I'm still which is crazy on the same contract before I fought Rosena Munis at twenty years old and I'm twenty six now. That! She's had the exact same contract for four years. And at this point in Patriot career, he's no longer the young upcoming rookie. She's not she's no longer the prospecting more patrons than isn't the young prospect looking declamatory up in the rankings. He's a veteran. He's twenty six so somehow through injury, but being on dancing with the stars being on TV. Work I have done through. I've done all of this. I been in the exact same contracts, our twenty two. That's the contract is scientists. I was twenty two, but I just feel like a red session isn't what I want. I want to prove my worth and my value and I want a brand new contract I'm really excited to get the opportunity and really test pregnancy. Because how do you know what value is on this? You can go tested among the other sharks. Page hasn't appeared since January. Twenty nine hundred injuries and work outside the opteron have kept us from fighting. She said she's one hundred healthy and ready for July eleven. So. It isn't the first time for the past two years. The Best Workman's aunts. Her priority has never been to be the best in the division. Like I like every time. I read any news on paid visits. It's always based around her trying to deal with injuries in her trying to fight every contract I, never hear page being like I. Want to be the best in the UFC. It's always built around I. Want a new contract and there's nothing wrong with that. Those are interesting. Is Won't be only in the AFC. Who isn't like calling someone outs-. I'm here I'm kind of happy about that because kind of refreshing. That doesn't know if you'll find again in the. Yes, he after yesterday's one. She's unhappy with their current. You'll see contract once a bigger deal whether it's in the AFC or not. Right purpose, so van Zandt goes on to say. So I make forty six thousand dollars to show. And another. Forty six thousand dollars to win. Pays. Benzon said I'm not going to hide that. Because everyone knows, I can make way more money than I. Just promoting brands on Instagram and that should say something. Why would I step away from all them? Eating success that I have I made more money on dancing with the stars than I have in my tiger UFC contract career combined every fight every every bonus I love finding. It's why I love to do. And for this fight I dropped every single sponsor. I haven't am posted. Ain't instagram nothing matters except this white ants, a clean slate for me. A twenty six year old is confident, stepping to pregnancy and considers herself a big free agents. Can you imagine that? She makes forty six rumor. She's five in three in the NFC. So, you really really break down. There were years to which she only made forty six thousand dollars. Enter time as a mixed martial artist. It's a real possibility and so page present Mickey Forty six thousand dollars that is in insane. That is insane now. I'm in agreement with Dana Wind. It's all really is a matter of perspective I'm minute agreement with Dana White and also not. Because from his perspective and when you? When you step out based on how you perceive money. What Dina what you're saying. Is it wrong because through his perspective? And a lot of people you can say this well. The thing about his page. Men's and comes to work one day a year to competes, and she makes forty six thousand dollars, and if she wins, she makes ninety two thousand dollars the average salary, the average income for the average household, the average household income. Is Sixty thousand dollars a year. Sixty thousand dollars is the average American income. If you make more than six thousand dollars than you, you're considered doing really good for yourself. If you're making a hundred thousand dollars a year, then you're considered rich I do coming in from the Pew. Research Center. The Pew Research Center, which is a really good site. If you WANNA go like adequate, really good strong in analysis, when it comes to like things you interested. Everything's really interested in whether it'd be like raise or economics, or like housing or costs, or you know or unemployment's Pew. Research does really, good. Analysis of these kind of numbers here. And so it was surveyed among among I think over thousands of Americans that you were considered rich, if humic one hundred thousand dollars per year. You're. One hundred hundred dollars as your household income. So do you think about that? Let's say you and your partner both made fifty one thousand dollars a year. Fifty one doesn't always year releasing the lot, so a fifty dollars a. You, guys together and you guys have your own place. You! The joke is that you are rich. You are a rich you are. You're living a rich lifestyle? Junior partner are making fifty one thousand dollars a year and you guys are living together. That's rich. And now let's Dana White and how the AFC blassie's. It's well penguins ants, if she. She comes to work once a year and if she goes on to win, and she she comes in to show up. Anti a fight. She's making thirty three percents more money than the average American and and she should be appreciative of that. And I say yeah okay. Ninety two thousand dollars a year. That's a lot of money. Relative to the average, American compared to like other athletes like other occupations bay. Two thousand dollars is nothing. That is nothing. So, just to put into context being a person I myself, I studied in northern California I worked in I studied Anna California, and I also studied and worked in southern California Los, angles and San Francisco. Is the in the Silicon Valley. And here's need to note. I know people in our friends who make obscenely large amounts of money. I have a friend She was nineteen years old. She was nineteen years old. She was doing an internship. and. You know how much internship was paying her. Her injury shovels paying her ninety six thousand dollars a year at the age of Nineteen Hughes, making ninety six thousand at the age of nineteen years old with paid housing and paid food. Everything's been offer her. In an internship job. Who pays somebody thousand dollars facebook Google. On top of fats I got friends who work as engineers really obscure like tech companies that you're never gonNA hear of. and. They make a hundred thousand dollars a year and they're considered below average compared to their peers. Let's think about now? WHOEVER THEIR BOSS ARE! They could be like. You shouldn't be hundreds of dollars a year, because the average American success and sixteen thousand dollars year she she'd be appreciative if you even making semi thousand dollars a year or eighty thousand dollars a year. That's what. That's what Dana White or brass. Bass members would think of if there were other companies, if if there is a run, the NBA or facebook or Google key metrics, Dana White was like the GM for NBA for an NBA team and has Lebron. James Across from him and Lebron James asking okay so I want a five year contract, two hundred and two hundred thirty million dollars. Lebron, asking five years two hundred thirty million dollars Dana White I can imagine being like well Lebrun. You're not GonNa make that, you know why because the average American makes six thousand dollars a year, so you should be paid about ninety thousand dollars as yeah, because you only work eight or nine times eight or eight or nine times a month in a year, so you should be appreciative New York. York getting this money in the first place. This isn't a career Lebron. This is an opportunity. That's what he would say because he said something similar to that in a recent past conference where he's talking about Amana Nunez and you'll saying a man newness. She didn't have a career in the AFC. She had the opportunity. She had an opportunity in the AFC to go. Make a lot of money. And I'm just like this way of thinking. Yes, it makes sense. It does it does but in the grand scheme of things you are like. It gets frustrating because that kind of way of thinking it, although he does make sense doesn't apply to other occupations or other organization or other jobs out there. It just doesn't it is. I got friends who make three hundred thousand dollars a year. I got Brenton one hundred thousand dollars a year. I got friends who make ninety six thousand dollars a year at the age of nineteen years old. Ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous and I making. Notes. No Barnes, all coronavirus pandemic thing really wasn't issue. Always making equivalence to the same amount of money as like a beginning level, engineer or software developer in southern California. and. I'll tell you right now. What I'm doing now is far far more safe than being mixed martial artists are being a fighter out there. because. It upsets me. Is like saying that she's not making she. She could be making money doing other things. He doesn't even have to be mixed. Martial arts fighter chewy doesn't but she's doing this out of the passion for it and I'm happy for patrons then for doing that, but. I. Really can't wait for Peterman Zandt to lead the AFC. I really can't and I'm in a positive. I'm saying that I mean for example the so she'll have more opportunities to go out there and make more money. She can be an actress she's. You can be an actress. She youth. The whole automated yellowish money money. Money these these athletes. These people's youtubers make I. AM following this one Youtube right now? He's only had one video in grant, or that's reached one million and he makes about five thousand five hundred dollars a month. He makes five thousand, five hundred a month, making videos at his out of his own home, and just him just talking. It is some guy talking camera for about ten minutes. He does like six times a week, so he's talking on camera for about oversight over an hour. and. He makes five thousand dollars a month. So yeah, so so I'm in agreement and disagreement within whites in that. Yes, you are right. These fighters are making more money than the average American is in America in Stockton Nick in. His. View is live in Stockton. And stopped in. If you're making forty thousand dollars a year, that's average. The average American income that's why would say well patrons as you're making forty thousand dollars a year. That's how bad because people in stopped in here there are barely making thirty nine year, so should be appreciative of like no. You can't you can just reference that? You can't just referenced in again? Stay well. You should be happy with what you have. Because other people don't have that opportunity. You know that's how things work. In America? We're all of up selling ourselves. We're upset in going for the best value making the most money as I possibly can. If you can't pay that, then you can leave something else and for patrons that she can definitely see. She doesn't the FCC at all. She's happy. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure she'll be more happy if you'd leave. But she's going to be fighting Amana Ribas in telling you right now. Amana Ribas will. Menu was the favorite again speech residents. Vans She's gone through so many injuries. He's been gone for a while Can you combine ring rust? At when he when he combined ring rust and the fact that she hasn't really she hasn't an injuries. I just don't think patriots is good enough to beat to Aman. Ribas memory was is among the top top twelve pizzas. Aunt is even near the top of the rankings, so from a purifier standpoint I think I don't think paint. Is Going PM energy bus for all I know I could be wrong and Van Zandt does up defeating boss, but from my from my perspective I think is GonNa lose this fight after three rounds of action, and then Ben's can go negotiate if he doesn't get the money, she wants shooting. Definitely leave. She can go to belts or she can go INVICTA. 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Really I love her personality in that she's won't be only fighters in across all the ultimate martial arts. WHO's not trying to come across as scary? I'm the toughest person in the world acknowledged Roxana nephews a down to Earth, person and so strange. She bumpers of being the number Frank. Flight Division. I would have never thought that I really wouldn't but in rocks. Rocks Roxanne, but after he Africa's Lauren Murphy Lauren Murphy was able to the fever free with the decision by all the fights here pretty much the exact same way in that the ended by three rounds Sison. Most of these women's fights were pretty much. One sided with the exception, being the most impressive woman spider of the card would be Robertson against. Debate which Robertson was able to defeat Gordon Casey via submission rennick choke at four minutes and thirty seconds of the third row. She's able to go get the decision victory. Thank you for being you know affirmative impressing accident. Thank you, Robertson. And we also had a raquel painting defeating its Murnau V. Decision Elliott TC, tourists are defeating brand reinvent brand. Else. These fights with accepted. The can fight was kind of. Because I felt like the pacing was pretty much same. Raquel Pennington obviously we're just like she's struck. She's trade. Mary now there's no point where we're now felt really comfortable. Coming in from the from the first through third round, the the Jewish Gortat were. Maranhao was able to win one round. I'm struggling to think and was it the first time maybe but recovering tonight I think she dictated the pace million in the first round, and because we're now able to pull off some good counter-punches I. Don't think she should be rewarded. Iran for that. So co-parenting she the pace here in the. In the Bantamweight Division from the Division Criteria Torres up making her way up was ginormous making your way up, and when was fly? We also have Lauren Murphy working her way up. So now let's look at the women's. Woman's best. We division here so aspirin lad she's. She's out she was issues meant to go fight, but now she got up. Through an injury so as right now we got holly him res-. Iron out coming up in just when we now becoming up. WHO's August I? I've I was July first so August is going. Be Iran Identity Holly, home. Holly Home has said that she thinks. She's one fight away from gay top. And you not yes, she is number three rank. She number three rank. So, it makes sense. Battery that is here now. If Holly home worth defeats. Dinner which will be tough? One identifies ranked number seventh, and she's matched up against like home for August. I I think. I'm thinking about this. Who Home Rosario, data. Because the biggest flag care would be dentist performance against Real, cal, Pennington and Oklahoma is an incredibly fighter so. Kennel recall. Pantheon was able to defeat. Denham repented, and then ended up losing to Holly Home. Because the reason why holly is ranked this higher rate now of despite her, a six five ranking within the organization over fighters, Juliana, penny and Aspen ladder, and even like can. The bureau is because of the fact that well choose been able to me. She's like win-loss win-loss win loss for the most part. She's able to be consistent and when she's against somebody WHO's. Near haranguing, she's able to stop it, so Holly L. Then I hear. This could really go either way. A safe bet here's holly home, but don't be surprised about that. Wednesday's w surprise, but the bet really is bringing spice. Separate asking ladder. I'm really at this point for asked him why he was estimated is landed one over on a recruiter, but foreign wine about form one and her one and only loss in the AFC was against Ademi. Who is the second best fighter in all the division? You can argue right now. The Aspen Lad is more deserving of Ital- fight then Holly Oh. Bob I look like if I look at okay, we are Gina Enemy Holly Home Julia. Aspirin Mad. Recall Pantin. I think she needs one more way. She's warmer went away to go. Get her without a fights, but I can see random may holly home, Penna and Ashland all binder way in four four four thousand fights and have all the women there. D- remainder anime, an Germain ask lad is the one that makes the most sense to me. I was in my opinion other than Nunez randomly and Ladd are the two best ones fighters in the bathroom division, and those who are the two who I think have the greatest chances of defeating Aman Nunez. Holly Home. I've seen too many kinks in her armor. For me to not trust her puzzles. You just lost to his recently, so much confidence was in. That's also I. Think Asthma is this is a great wrestler. She into refunding. Switch Spencer proved it in. Him if I, it's even newness is known for being this power hitter striker. He's she's got a great wrestling background. He's got good ground game. She's a black belt. And Jitsu and that's pretty much. Reason was ill. Two feet was able to lose to know. That's why meant news feed your enemy because in the STANDUP game drain random. Has To be the best striker in the most ransoming division, and she's the one and only person nudist strike, and so she let under grappling interesting ability. Aspen ladder is. Pretty much observe Nunez and that asthma striking is really not all that pretty. Now asthma striking is pretty ugly. Not that good look at she doesn't have the power at all. It's like even the way she tries to find the angles, not good at what she does. She doesn't mean that call. Sparta's were. She has like the short arms. And then he's GonNa like. She's GonNa power adapt through her opponents. Pressure the heck out of your opponent and they'd go in front double-leg. TAKE DOWN! Double take-out or go for a clinch prom, though with the man news is a, she's incredibly clinch and be. She's a great car. She's great counter striker and she loves it when a fighter is pressing for the Action Amanda Mrs at her best. Amendment out of her knockout potential best when she's walking backwards like when a man Nunez is trailing backwards, we know who's talking up a shot for a counterstrike when Nunez has to go and be on the offensive, Ashim then becomes kind of like a passive very safe. You know angling shot and Kinda shots trying to be trying to be a striker when she's in the offensive, but when she's on defensive, that's when she becomes the real power hitter, and so for Asthma Address Amanullah. That'd be a interesting fights. It could end through first or knockout. And with Aspen Latte outracing Nunez and Nunez is one of the best grapplers in all the bathroom division. So, that's a very good match. Dramatic Menounos, Nunez. That's what I feel should be the next match-up for Nunez that is if Nuno's isn't retire. Because I feel like of Germania enemy can mix can make some adjustments a game. She would do a lot more better defending the take down the the rustling of Nunez. Believe went to open. It came to a dramatic. It's my newness. People predicted okay Nunez is the better fires than green adamant. You know why because she's better. Both the ground and in the second category will guess what's people predict man new. There's knocking randomly, but turned out. If there was anybody who has threatened to get knocked out or could potentially be knocked out. It'd be Manu Nez Because dramatic was able to land him really good clean shots onto Nunez to the point that news had to go and close distance because remainder anime is a really big girl. Drain Ronnie should be competing the division. is if Jimmy word of fights against a man as ineffective division I think. Would increase your chances of winning and she'd have a better performance now. It's how good it is and I expect. Her to be the next in line years retire, but if you this is waiting is waiting and she's expecting soon I think asthma, lad or hall number streaming remain should be the next normal contenders matchup, and so let's move to the women's flyweight division here. There's no notable metrics here with the exception being Jennifer my against robe, both these spiders coming off, you lost recently. Who has a win has victory over Alex? Davis and Toledo Bernardo Loss Against Jessica. I mean all different. My had loss against killing chiquet GIN, which is a lot more than just go I'll just is a really great striker. Rhino this guy I don't actually I. Don't get it, so she's. Fifth rank right now in women's division despite being five and seven. But does anyone here in vision? That people should be looking out for it, Cynthia Kabale. said the bill is a is a threat I'm beyond that you when I look at the top five Valdez Janko. Your Kagan. CINTEGABELLE and Lauren Murphy Villa's four or without the four best fighters of them as fight, division and I can see Valentine's Janko. Fighting gigging in. Maybe that's a huge. Maybe about I know, it's not a fan of rematches. If the fight was a one-sided gets pretty much was one-sided, it was pretty obvious. Janko. Again, but I like the story. We're going to feed her older sister. And then we have to think avail. Who is syndicale? She's nine and one entertainment career, six and one in the. She defeated Courtney Casey and I and. I really knew. Her record right now is kind of marriage is I really is still a on the division. And they avoid Murphy who defeated a very game. She'd be too big fighters in jail, Lee and Roxanne McCaffrey. So the way how are things now? If didn't, why is still going to? If he about booking kicking and Valdez check again. Hours aseptic avail syndicale, reskilling again. Winner of that fight would then go. Fire would go fight against Trento. And this leads me to discussion yet again to fight between Kagan and Syntech avail. Here's records indicate she should be fighting. Should we should be? VALTER Tanka cancer kick in when she fought against Antonin Intertanko, at teen, is a tall girl. Kevin chickens huge. Don't you? Is Jay Canet compared to Antena, Sheila's with data, objectively much stronger much more powerful than any the division here when you look at the physical of Kagan everyone else in the division. GIGGING is more physically dominant than emails. The only person who's asked physically dominance Asha Kagan. Champion SHINCO. And because of that when I have to Kagan recently here well. I think he too small. I think she I I. Will cynic avail should compete at the division is a word to the film Charlotte at the Woman's right division. Is Good enough to match up against someone. Just got android to match up against the rose units they're against the talking on a solar is an answer off. I think she's in doubt, level or the top by other ones rankings I'm really hindsight via. But because of the size advantage here I personally put a lot of brownie points onto size, being a major major aspect into the game here. So, Portuguese risk CEO is say if these two were wrestle each other Shuki again Cynthia Visa Strike. Each other is teach. Okay, get his able to out. Strike Cynthia place much more power shots in, and she's also a much worse reach couldn't gain has probably the longest reach of all the women in the division. The that size is way too much cynthia so. If the AFC really wants to push somebody else. All of the killer chiquet into spots Janko. They should should books in the risk again and got across stringers like. Caviar hopefully she to peace acadian Sergei is GONNA come into fight as the favorite there and I won't be surprised, but then again to the syndicate. She's under fire and a lot of her. And they have Armani McCain against Tall Santos coming up in just two weeks. July fifteen. Maria Gaba Rashid Dopson oh, that's going to be fun one. If you WANNA know who is equivalent of Sean o'malley in the movies right now. It's Maria PCT Moraga. Per has so much star power going right now and against Dobson. Who is a was a good opponent for? That's a real fun when. A market candidate now August two Maria. Depaul Richardson Dopson asking me real fun with watch. Gene Cam. ALEXA GRASSO COMING UP? That's a really interesting one because I thought and Kim. Is Your. Kim Shipping on the more better fighters in the top division. It is her week. Cut is so annoying to deal with because you, Kim is. Is You, don't she should be in the same realm of the top ten until I i. think she's good enough to compete with anybody in the top ten here. But Sally enough. She's not able to climb up that high because she's. She's done too casually. Fights inner pass you fights so therefore they'll count and here like a fifty percent pay cuts. Not Twenty five to fifty percent pay cuts. So she's not making as much money as you should be. which is already pretty low and competing vice that don't really propeller up in the rankings? No matter how impressive the are. is on their impressive, and so she had givers Alexa Grasso. I'm just hoping Kim tweets. That's the biggest issue of that fights. So, put out there for? Three days he'll be June, kimber selects grasso coming up in three days coming in the card, as doesn't create or Sedan Khokhar, the AFC frightening events and our countdown for Maria, Agapov Machine dopson coming up I. Think isn't the same card as corny receiving meals your stream. Servicing to the GS MC. Woman Emmy podcast Comeback Rafter, Short break here, see you. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts now listen close and here this out. 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We got one grass of all time here in Christopher now Chris cyborg H- usually posted video of her doing some strikes. With with our coach and our coach had to take the gloves like. Oh, my gosh, it really hurts. And Surfing Sing surfacing around people say oh. My Gosh received the aqua-. Cyber Power hitter because Chris I. Inner Pass for fights in the AFC. She says a lot of power. He transitioned from being present who dives into her opponents and try to defeat appointed through clinching through under hawks through dirty boxing through through a short hook up through for hooks through uppercuts. She became less of a knock artists and more technical striker built around. You know like passively ticking on her opponent, and gold strikes me more of a precise opera striker. It had inner password fights. She's drastically change her fighting style. Now I don't know. Maybe it was the way cuts. I. Could actually where she lost a lot of her power in order to go just for her to go make weights. But looking at crystal just you know, and then like I seen this video surface around were kidding the midst really hard honor trainer, and everyone's like oh my gosh. Wow, we're seeing all cassava against a hard hitter. Now. She no longer like yes. I know Chris. I ever defeated her opponent by Ko. Inner belter debut. But even, but she still was that yet that she still is Chris I work in the Queer, the very precise, very clean striker less about overwhelming, her opponent and more about finding the best shots in order to defeat opponents. And when I see that I'm like all that's normal. Interest in in any of those videos, resea- some guy doing like speed drill like speed, drill, jabs and hooks cuts on the mets. A Do. You think they're actually hitting hard and be you know the point of that is not a strength, the point estimator, speed and accuracy. That's the that's the point of that is. Equivalent when you see like a basketball, basketball or football or basketball or football in training camp video. reecey this one athletes who looks like crews like doing all these a compressor like highlight reel stop by Kyrie Irving. You'll get Kyrie Irvings XP drill highlights their insane author. Absolutely look really cool in the action like. Wow, my gosh, this history gerbils are amazing or when you see. They're when they're doing speed dribbles. They're never actually hitting hard in those mitts there. We are not because that's not the point of the drill. Though point of hitting the mets is test accuracy tested their form, typically your prison striking. Look testing speed s not meant. You're not meant to actually hit hard in the mets I've done this. It's kind of a rookie mistake actually when I started pushing the mets. My trainer would always tell me hey. Please stop trying to hit hard stopped trying to hit with four here. The point of the trail is is ready to do it right like. You're not meant to shop a strength in this drill like I've had my coaches. EAT me out. Be like calm down. Just hit as fast as you can at a consistent pace. Okay, we'll do like twenty five minutes. Let's see how long you can keep the pace here. Because if you hit really hard because you're supposed to do that for X. amount of Minnesota your to do that ten minutes straights. Okay all right. Cyber only to go hit like a five punch Combo and off the hook up with a hook and uppercut all right. In and do that for ten minutes Chris Sabir isn't doing that is a hidden potential minutes now he's going to go. Keep at a certain pace for ten straight minutes, so she gets the form down perfectly. And for video what probably happened? Was that somebody like? Hey, hey, Chris Hey, cyber. We're going to film you do your drill and of course offerings. Okay, Almond, go all the way with I'm gonNA. Go all live with this video because the cameras turned off. Chris I probably is just going to go work on her speed drills accuracy again. So I'm not that impressed by it. I really am not. His another thing if you haven't done boxing training ever. When you? When you were in the midsts, they still here. It's you know, I, remember some. Are Coach or trainer. We read this body armor. You'd read this body armor, so he can practice on the fighters, working on body shots or kicks. And when one nine the gym wondering Jim, who had the NASTIEST kicks? Most, loudest like was like insane. Leg Kicks in our Jim like you can hear. The kicks from outside the gym. 'cause that's hard. Nobody kicks harder than this guy. He's got these like strongest trunk legs. You've seen those videos guy like are punching. Pushing trees down, no, they're kicking trees down or kicking these polls that can get really hard and like hey, man, look a leg is still perfectly fine. No blood at all. That's easy. That's him. This guy could kick it. Iron Pole, and it can be like hey, man, I feel scratch, so imagine this guy kicking you. Now imagine this kicking you with the body armory wearing. Any human. So his training with a huge on low like one hundred body kicks onto the coach, wearing the body armor, and so he got ninety, seven, Ninety, eight, ninety, nine, one, hundred good job. You hear the you hear the bell. Ringing, ring okay take your break. The Guy did a hundred leg kicks. And then our coach would look at the rest of us, and he went from like okay good jobs to break turns around. I think I have to close my eyes. Every time attempts kick man. Who wants to me who wants to do a? Anyone anyone okay, then then he turns around to the guy is like all right at one hundred electric. Let's go and he's like he's like he's like Panda Fay's safe face. This a poker face. Here's the tennis panacea poker face race, trying to look like where it doesn't really hurts, but it actually does, and that's a normal thing that happened to gyms. It's a normal thing that happens in all Connor Sports James. These guys were in the mets in the body armor stuff. The always feel hurts. These things do hurt. They do all because they're in by armor. That has been isn't a hurts it on camera for the most part when you are getting hits. You're not really supposed to actually any show anything because. You! Can You? Remember the fighter you're. The the point of the training is to help the fighter. And so can you imagine the fighter like his goal is okay through one hundred six. And then on like the fiftieth, let kick the trainers like. Let me, take a break. Ooh, well, you just taking a break. Kinda like weaken the training for him. The point for him is to see if he has the cardio to pull off. A hundred strong leg kicks consecutively and for the trainer like okay. Let me take a break from your fifty lakes. No, you're kind of ruining the training from there. And so, it's not an oppressive. This video and I saw all the colonists. Oh my Gosh! She's a real power hitter. Wow, runarounds was Chris ever again maybe. No. No it's normal. What because I did tour? Trader is absolutely normal and I. Expect only the very best from her. Come coming up in her career in shelter. But Trust me. It's normal to get hurt by even if you're wearing even if you're in minutes, really does. And so we go from the past to the new. We got here key Hatton. So I'm getting this from WMA rankings DOT. Com and the second I saw her face, and I saw her shirts. I thought okay. This girl's obviously from southern California and I'm right. She is so this is key. Hanson key Hatton signs, a multi fight deal with the F. invited Stan Hansen has signed with the Hansen who is six and three share the new social media on Sunday. Her the. Says today I got a call. Every fighter dreams of Akron assign a multi contract with the UFC I can't I can't begin to describe how blessed and thankful I am for all my family, teammates, friends and coaches, the concert support through everything up and down I also want to give special. Thank you to check nap and everyone Victor C for everything they do for their athletes I am forever grateful parts of the INVICTA FC family. This is just the beginning the twenty year old prospect has fought all but one of professional. Bouts under the INVICTA FC banner. She has completed as both a shipped astrology nf while its throughout her career. Now she should compete US rallied. That's what Sarah. Now I think. She's I think she's small flyweights, heads, and currently writes eight three fight win streak. She has last seen fighting and March NBA FC Phoenix Phoenix series, three, defeating Lisa, Peterson, by decision in astronomy about. Compete. And that's predicted. The California native has made a name of self as an exciting fighter. WHO PUSHES THE PACE? He has finished age eighty percent of her fights. This weird this Oh weird. We hear so many news and I reported all the time it come here. We're fighters. Argument man contract is awful. Earn well. She's a twenty year old girl. That's what she's a twenty year old girl from California on a fighters, arguing that their contracts are really not good at their bad. They're endebted being underpaid. Well. I'm hopefully things. Don't turn out for her to see me attorney for patrons and in terms of our contract issues. I hope he Hanson becomes assessable SPD's ads, if not even more successful her. Because when Peterson was signed signed. At twenty two years old, she got Sheikh, did she? At Twenty, two probably signed in at twenty, one, so signed twenty one years old. And then she competed at the easiest way to. For the banner in now she's twenty six and she's still under the contract. For a twenty year old girl, making twelve thousand dollars is a lot of money. When you're twenty twenty year old, and you've got all your friends who go onto college or doing these trade skills or I didn't know like being a famous youtubers. In my life, but when you have like people out there who are making x amount of money at the age of twenty years old. Which is a lot surprisingly to go on YouTube. Then for key Hanson, making twelve thousand dollars in fights yet underpaid, but for her as a twenty year old, she's like y'all Mike is dollars. That's more money. I've ever seen our life how? So offer her what I'm hoping for. The key HINTON SIGNED A. I know, Dana White when he was doing negotiations for Horry Mas Vidal. And John Jones. They signed by contract. Let me, look at. What was her fight contract, so? She signed her contract for years ago. And now, and she's still stuck in that contract and for shop. It took him years to get out contract her of his so. Let's look at how many how many fights? Peterman has had in the AFC so her contract was signed. Signed back at. Okay so we'll sign a when she fought against rose on municipales twenty fifteen. We will be. It'll be five years. She's overdue for five contract and five years only Gosh. So, she signed a new contract with one, two, three, four five. Shit a six fight coming up right now, so her contract was six fights. Hitting her initial contract when she debuted for the see was one two three. So let's a cigarette papers and cited three contract this. You negotiated for six more fights. And I'm guessing right now. How things are for Hanson? Probably can't decide to e four fight contract four three contract. We pay twelve thousand dollars a year. She's probably GONNA compete. You know just outside the top ten rankings. If you depending on how well she does, and she and she's GonNa put up to making like forty five thousand dollars right similar to Peterman probably even lower than that. which will set up another former fights? So from what I'm seeing right now. Canton is prepped up to fights. Eights or maybe nine times in the UFC. Two which he's making no more than fifty thousand dollars per fights. At the minimum, not including bonuses. And depend on who you ask. Well that might be a good thing or a bad thing if she hadn't word to win all her fights, because you know five thousand dollars. Dollars doublets. You're making hundred thousand dollars per fight, and if you're to compete two times a year, she's making nearly twenty thousand dollars per year. That's really good. But. You know what there's a probability here that while she gets injured if she gets injured, athlete could be very similar to be events, and hopefully that doesn't happen then up for key Hanson being a twenty girl who's mindset. Is Oh gee is streaking like? Even allowed here how? Twelve thousand dollars. That's a lot of money. Okay what! I know people who right now. Are, like twenty five years old twenty five years old, twenty seven years old and doesn't dollar sedan is a whole lot of money. I got somebody somebody told me one time. That's making two hundred dollars. A day is a lot of money. Two dollars a day. Two hundred dollars. A day is pretty much below the average salary for the average American. In Him, phoning me and be like Oh. Gosh, you make you make to not meet precisely Ovalles guys like I. Know Somebody here. Who makes two dollars a day. That's a lot of money. On really. Depends on the person self rookie Hanson signing the contract making told US dollars year. Yup under that's that's that definitely is. Under. She is being underpaid. But is in her home on as in her mind. She's making some money, so she can move. Our parents place a good for. At the very least though she's happy and she's happy to contract then I guess you settle with it, though hopefully things don't bite or buts a couple of years down the road. So you're listening to the MC woman's MMA podcast comeback, rotten short break here, see see. Are you looking for help with your fantasy football team checkout, GSM see fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice to start who to sit, even who you should draft from sleeper picks a red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you that GMT. PODCAST DOT com back slash fantasy dash football dash fogcast. We'll cover traditionally dynasty. FEW PR EVEN I. Leads when you need fantasy help. There's just one showed up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. GS MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. And we are back, so I discussed K Hanson. Guess what he's GonNa fight coming up this Saturday Has, been important, and that infected Champ Jin fray signs with UFC and is GonNa face K Hanson. Eight, this Saturday. Wow so with the champion headed to you. have see I supported by joking Victor Adam, champion and Gin, junior, frame, or less interesting assigned a UFC deal won't face, fell and former victor fighter key Hansen who is six and three in Australia contests. Phrase manager of Oreo confirmed a match up to the May Junkie since capturing the INVICTA Gold into eighteen has competed four times winning three bouts. And losing one in Reisen, Fray joined victim twenty fourteen in has been a top item weight since this Saturday will be her first sight star way, tencent announced hurry up, see contract on Sunday the twenty dollar prospect currently writes three win streak last having competed in March. Oh man is might either be. Win This, fight, Leon. because. Jim New. She reminds me. The A, lot of Michelle waterson created because Watterson. At one point was a dominance. Chapin. Champion one point of agreer hear edges when she had to go her way up towards the strike division. She never had that physical advantage. She never because when you look at Michelle Waterson when our time an champion, she always had the physical vantage over opponents. And so where she then move onto star rates, she then became mostly reliant on her skills, technique, striking ability and our overall game to go and care the wind, but she never had that fiscal bench, and that's why I'm. Like gin new ravers has Kayhan. RAISE IS GONNA. Come into the favorite. That's she's obviously the favorite here against someone as Green as Key Hansen. I'm saying I'm saying green, but she's six and three wall. Freight is ninety four, but. Junior. Free competed at a much higher level. Ben K. The one K has over junior. Fray would be the fact that he is the bigger fighter and she's competed in bigger divisions, so junior will come into the by much more smaller fighter against Hampton and she's GonNa. Be Competing in a in a week division. The she's not all that comfortable in. So, this this is it could go either way here. I expected junior afraid to win this fights against Hanson, but this won't be the first time I got a former CIA current champion or former champion moving moving into the into struggle. It won't be the first time and it wouldn't last time. And so interesting article just came out in this coming in from sports, showed nets with the have on being top ten best female enemy, athletes, twenty, twenty, the sexiest and strongest. These are the top woolmer's pound for pound fighters in May certainly champions. In this article we are going to win this some of the best and power ladies of era. What's? So. I'm so computering, also looking at the best woman of the era or the best athletes. Twenty. Their fighters, a winter's here. All making people proud partner, the army's lead, but discreetly making statements about feminism issued quality. Athletes are never born a day. The Polish from rocks crystal assured Keisha indication, so you're listening now. The top ten best female MMA athletes up twenty twenty number turn. In this list number ten fighter and we have been as Porto. She She has already made her name as the best resume for artists, as was in the as walls amateur boxer. She competes in victim. Championship fight division and she's really good with it. is currently ranked is currently number two ranked one twenty five pound female fighter in the world, according to research done by unified women's Americans. She started her professional career in the two thousand and five, though initially, she only fought in Brazilian promotions. Number nine in this list we have holly home. Holly Home was born as Hollywood. She's an American enemy fighter. Who Compete Older Chevy ships. for He, she's a former Yosi winds. Bantamweight champion along with a home is also a former professional boxer. She has already made a name. What's? How was holly on one of the best albums at twenty twenty? How? What is he? What actually done? In twenty twenty. America let me look at our performance of looking at performance. sear holly home. She's a big name without a doubt about that. So she's only follow once. In Twenty Twenty Sumer. Who are the best athletes is a woman's Emma athletes laureate way? She fought once in as it gets raquel painting. A Madison recalled parenting. She only fought once. And and it was a it was against Raquel, and there's there in the middle of the pack of the top five. Number eight can dyla-. Quality Cadel is ahead of Holly Home Care so at number in this list is a numerous quality CADILA. She happens to be the youngest BG Black Belt. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what you did earlier in your career, looking or the best athletes of twenty twenty. And Claudia della she should stugotz Angela Hill that's how I view it. This list is insane if You would our place okay? Homes performance. Against Recall Panton was much more better than quad formats against Angela Hill. In off that Holly Home should be head of Wada Cadila, but that's the case from. Okay now. You Got Morris Conan and of the Marlins Moscow meter to be rushing holds the record for being there returning Mugabe. That doesn't mean anything. Moscone like what has she done in twenty twenty? That's the interesting part about here. Okay right now, so she is. What Okay so I'm looking at you know. Moscone and she's retired. She's a retired fighter. Not only you tired. She. She left after having to fight a losing streak. Inner pass by fights. She is two and three. Last time she fought was in two thousand seventeen. Yeah I. I'm looking at is how how? Is Marlow. Higher Than Claudia and Holly Home. To in twenty twenty consider that Marlo hasn't competed since twenty seventeen. I'm looking the reason why I'm reading this right now as well. She has been fighting profession since two thousand. She's a former strikeforce bantamweight champion okay good. Boat homeless waiting twenty year. That's like saying. Who is your great again? Like who is the best heavy fighter in the UFC in the AFC? Two Thousand Twenty. It's John Jones. But then I'll see a list of black well. Worth won the ultimate fighter. and. That's why he is the greatest. The heavy I won't timeless. No, that doesn't count. That's ridiculous number six Valdez of Janko. Brothers Janko Okay Valentina Great. Fighter obligate fighter Jennifer Maya, but somehow Jennifer. My is ahead of bounty. Valley Whites Jennifer Mike is hired at valujet Shaneco but Chris. CYBORG is higher than Valentino. And I'm looking at this right now, and it says well. She's a former woman feather champion. So Yes. Yes, yes, she was a champion in twenty nineteen. But that doesn't make a great fighter in twenty twenty. Yeah, she's Yes. She's a current shaper in on dull tour, but you can't play Cyborg and Jennifer Mile over Valentino right now. Here's. Years when this less just completely goes bonkers for me. Tom Right now in your opinion, who is the third best woman spider in the entire world? Who is a third best in the world? Right now. Okay whatever your name is. Whatever you throw up, you could say well. He's Yang. You say you want to check. You could say values Yanko. You you you could say any of those women are either now. Tummy, who European D think is! Who is a third best moments fighter? In the US in mixed martial arts in the year twenty twenty. Who'd he say? Twenty twenty. All right now. Here's what Hughes. WHO This? This list. This list named reporter Rousey. As v Third Best MMA fighter in twenty twenty. How! And I'm looking list right now. And it says. She is one of the most popular female athletes on twitter. On twitter. How does getting followers, mayhew. Objectively the best at a sports. By that rail life page patrons, ants has the like the top five best spiders right now when women's martial arts. and. That's not the case I'm not letting that. Tell me disengagement sense, 'cause. Even then we'll tell you like okay. I'm not my the FCC isn't really all that well. Actually now, 'cause you know I'm not been winning. I'm not been madame fights. I've been in not that many like top fight recently I'm not really booked in high in. Hi, FI, it's. No it's ridiculous. Even page present. Will Look C. C. Connelly be like wow. Ronda Rousey is the most popular female athlete on twitter. What the heck does that? How does that relate to being the best twenty twenty? Let's US she would say. The number, two best ones fighter in the entire world, according to the sites is Amanda Nunez. A man Nunez. How How A camera in at number two on this list of the top ten female emmy athletes according to any, we have a man who is. She defeated Ronda Rousey. and she defeated Holly Home. But she also grew up in Brazil. She had a sister. I didn't know having a sister and being born in Brazil. Automatically makes you a great fighter. Now you training, not your accomplishments by track record a resume. May even hype formed in England fights in the year between twenty. But you have a sister, and you're born in Brazil. That's the that's as wittingly as dumb as you're third best fighter in the entire world. Why because you're the most popular female the on twitter? Run a Rossi Sheriff on the in years. Not only that Rossi. She's competing wwe. They're even real out the kind of our athletes, but there aren't really athletes being about it, but. She's an after. She's an actress. She's a theatrical actress right now for the world wrestling team industry. I think now okay, so Frana Rassi the third best woman spider. In the twenty twenty and Amanda Nunez it a second Baseman fighter of all twenty twenty. WHO IS NUMBER ONE? What wealthy Zhang or you want to just because the reason we like. Oh, because they had the best of the year. That's only logical. Reluctancy I'll think have. This site will predict well Jiang for being a number and fighter woman Cyrus Twenty twenty. Off the basis that she had as right now the best fights twenty minutes for one, but for all for arts. Okay I'm scrolling. You want to check. What's And you want to teach at she's. She's one of the greatest time. She is the greatest as as as a never ending. She is the greatest destroyed champion of all time. She in my opinion is greater than Ronda. Rousey Chris Cyborg. Jeremiah the wrong that. Values searching I think she's great. Champion my personal opinion. But. Better than men and June is. Why I number one you wife because she is Polish. That's. I love. July twenty two. She is the consensus number one female strawweights. So does that doesn't matter at Twenty Sixteen? You're the number one strongly in the world. All, that matters right was what's happening right now. She's a four-time European champion multi. Okay in the year twenty twenty. Why Zhang on here! This is a so. I'm looking at the comments right now. Someone just put Darren out. Where is well, he Zhang? One. This is so mind why for me. This is super mind-blowing, and now I know you're thinking. You're thinking well. This list is outdated. No this this was made. June twenty second twenty twenty just two days ago. My mind has exploded. In the twenty twenty, the three vessels fighters would have to be number one Nunez number two while Zhang number, three one eighteen check new arguments, and after all that that brings a close to today's podcast. Guys say thank you. Thank you for listening to the GS. Mc Woman's MMA podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network to F. Please remember subscribe to the show a nicer view that really helps us all sorts. Follow us on facebook, twitter and instagram. Thank you. Ask Good Nights. You've been listening to the Golden State concepts women's mixed martial arts podcast heart of the golden state media concepts podcast network. 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Your Podcast Name

Podcasting Tips & Tricks with Lyndal Harris

09:00 min | 10 months ago

Your Podcast Name

"In this episode we are talking about your podcast name. And a couple of considerations you should think about when you are naming your show Welcome to podcasting tips and tricks with Lindell Harris a shy sharing quick actionable tips tricks and advice to help you on your podcasting Jenny. Hello and welcome back to another episode of podcasting tips and tricks. I am your highest Lindell Harris and I am the founder of podcast. Va where we make your podcasting journey easier by offering a variety of support services so back into another week and I just want to mention that tickets are going on sale for Australia's newest podcasting event next week. These Trident podcast is collaborative. Live is happening in Sydney at the Novatell. Darling Haba on the Fourth of September twenty twenty we have an amazing lineup of speakers and we will be covering a host of topics that really matter to podcast is. So if you're interested you can either join the white list which is on my website at podcast caused. Va Dot Com and Click on the conference button or you can join the strategy. podcast is collaborative facebook group. And you'll also be notified when tickets go on sale so onto this week's topic which is all about your podcast name now. This actually came up after a chat chat with somebody at a networking eventual workshop last week. And this person I was chatting to was really stuck on what to name their podcast and they really found this as a hurdle with even starting a podcast. So they knew they wanted to do on. And they're quite confident with the content that they would share but are really stuck on naming it and there were few things that we chatted about which really helped her and so it made me think it was good episode today and it might help view. If you're a little stuck on how to name your podcast now. There's a few different things that you can think about when you're naming it and there's a few different ways you can name aamot firstly. You could name after your name which there are plenty of podcasts out there that do that Sorry if your personal brand is your business then perhaps you will call it the your name show so for example one of my clients is Lauren Murphy. And her brand cheese brand anticipates no brand and sorry her show is called the Lorraine Murphy show. So you'll see a lot of people actually calling the shy your name podcast or the your name Shari sorry another way to name it. Is You know something obvious about the topic. Saw If we take my podcast example mine is all about podcasting and and sorry podcasting. Tips and tricks is very obvious what it is about by the tidal. It pretty much is what it says on the CAN. So that's another way that you can do it. You can think about humane topic or your main topics and you can name it after that. Now you can also name at something quirky which. I really love some podcasts with Quirky working night But I guess one thing you just want to be mindful of here. Is that if you do use a quirky name. Make sure you use a really good tagline. So that explains that's what the podcast is about so that you can come up in searches as well so that you sort of fed through some keywords into that tagline so that you can still. Toby found so. There's three ways that you can actually go about brainstorming. The name of your podcast. I do actually get us quite often. is how to check checking. That's already gone so a couple of places that I think is a good way to check. If that podcast name is gone is firstly to go. into some of the bigger podcast cost directories like apple podcasts. spotify and even just going into Google and typing in the name of the shark that you want to use so that will bring up any search results so google will usually bring up the search results for anything in Apple PODCASTS and spotify. That's named that but it's still worth going into the directories and having a look doc. Some people take that step. Further as well and going check business name directories and see if there is actually a business name with that because quite often a a business name where we tried marked. Sorry if you check that Business Name Directory Upfront. If it's something that is likely to be cold business name and that may be worth join because you don't want to start you podcast necessarily just to find that in a few weeks after you launch that someone comes and says that you can't use that name anymore now. Here's something that you should know if you're finding that you get stuck on actually launching your podcast. Starting your podcast. Because you can't work out the PODCAST CAS nine you can actually change it down the track now. Obviously I would say it would be great if you can work out that name upfront. But but if you re brand or something like that down the track then you can change. The name of your podcasting is actually quite an easy process. Some hosting providers. Actually ask you for a slug. When you're sitting up your Shari's I for example Lipson ask you to set up a slug? which is the word so some people will use the name of this shark Dr Others will sink a little bit bigger than the name of this show because if they want to change it down the track they can't change that would slug in Libson for example. So just be mindful when you're naming the slug of your show if you have to do that in your hosting setup that if you are thinking you're not one hundred percent sure on the ninth then maybe make it something that went down the track some hoist on the other hand provide like an ID number in the Ariza's feet or as the slug ugh. And therefore you don't even worry about that changing the name of your podcast when you're hosting on a provider that doesn't use the slug in the URL. Makes it very a easy. It's just a matter of going into the heist. Changing the name in the show settings and changing your cover art. Sorry that was really what I wanted to touch on today. This person isn't that always speaking to and a couple of people that are in the conversation were quite surprised to know. It's easy to change the name down the track and that always saying don't let that be the thing that stops you from getting your message out to the world so hopefully that has helped you. If you're stuck on your podcast nine. Look I know when I I was thinking about this Shari I really sort of bandied around. Lots of different nines in a really wasn't sure what to go within so sometimes just making that decision going ahead and stopping and then if it really doesn't resonate with you down the track you feel that you've pivoted you podcast. You can change it then so I guess the key takeaways there are sit down and brainstorm. How do you want to name your show? Do you want to name it after your name. If your personal brand do you want to name it the subject that you'll be covering or do you want to name it something quirky and give it a really smart tagline to make it obvious what it's about. What do the research and see if there is already a podcast with that name? And you can check google the podcast directories as well as business name. Directories check that but know that you can change it and don't let the name be. What stops you from starting your podcast because this is one of those things where you can just push through and just stop getting your message out there so that wraps up? Today's topic of your podcast name. And hopefully if that is something you'll getting stuck on that will help get you over the line now the short episode today. But I have actually got some fantastic interviews lined up over the next few weeks so we will be getting back into into having a mixture of interview and Solo shows so police training before I guy I just wanted to say. Don't forget the tickets. Let's go on sale for the Australian podcasters collaborative live event on the fourth of September in Sydney. And if you want to head over a to my website podcast. Va Dot Com and Click on the conference Broughton. You can join the white list and find out when tickets go on sale. Some time this as wake alternatively if you would like to jump into the facebook group the Australian podcasters collaborative group. We would love to have you in there as well so until next time. I hope you enjoy awake and I will chat Ethan. Thank you so much for listening. If you enjoyed the show make sure you subscribing you'll pod catch and say don't Miss An episode and whilst today I'd love it if you'd leave me a writing interview to help other podcasters

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The A-Side Live Chat | UFC on ESPN 11 preview, Bellator return, UFC featherweight title picture, Sean O'Malley & Cynthia Calvillo's next move, more

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

1:14:12 hr | 5 months ago

The A-Side Live Chat | UFC on ESPN 11 preview, Bellator return, UFC featherweight title picture, Sean O'Malley & Cynthia Calvillo's next move, more

"You're listening to the medium long as an. Relied how? They were life out and I am very excited to Casey before star introductions. Do you know what that references from? Some fake wrestling, Steph, some big wrestling stuff, bud. I'm excited to have to introduce our guest. Because I've been saying we're live. Since the day I started took over as I live chat. I remember I was saying we're live. During the hour days. Alex I assume you don't know what that references from so I am excited to have someone. That knows that reference. When I took over the I live chat with would have multiple. Journalists I made a list of journal journalists in general that I would like to have on at some point I've gone through most of still a few left by him. Senator. Knock off another one today. Sean, Ross. Of the fight, full editor is joining us for a special Friday edition of the aside. I am very excited to have him on so sean. I am excited to have another one. A fellow wrestling fan that knows that reference. Should we smart him up? Should we tell them or should they have to figure it out on their own I? Think the honor is yours Sir because I'm sure a lot of people that are tuning into this. Follow your work on the professional wrestling scenes. You can you can enlighten the audiences sure obviously be a little deeper into pro wrestling coverage, but it's it's one of those things really have to see to understand, and you gotTa have the context of knowing who psycho. Sid is a guy who literally blamed missing a booking in Cleveland on the Donald, trump travel ban. He acted like he couldn't fly two states away because of that. He is known for quitting wrestling like every summer, so he'd go play softball, but he he tried to. He was doing an interview with Jim Ross on TV. The Promo wasn't even interview. It was a promo. Any messed it up and he's like I'll. Let's do that over and Jim Ross goes up. We're live PAL This. Guy That said I'm twice the man that you are with half the brains that you have and he he. Obviously mix that up a little bit, or did he or did a I like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but those of you wondering like. Why would he not know we're live? This was that was the early days of one raw. WWe went from taped to quote raw footage. Live footage. So what he thought was a taped promo was live on the air he was reciting lines, messed up and asked to restart out of character. So for all of you who are wondering why I keep saying. We're live now at the beginning. There you go, but of course joining us this week is my normal Co host Alex Savage and the producer Casey lied. And how are you guys on the special, Friday? Can complain the trim in palm trees outside my window is something. I never thought I would say. So. All's good jealous about that. I used to live in Chicago so I'm a mid Westerner at heart. To. Do they. Since one day. What's what's life like in your part of the world stupid? Yeah okay. I'm here anyway. Pants good. Go I'm sure you guys are wondering why we're doing a Friday edition. Normally I'm usually in Las Vegas for the fight. Cars by didn't go this week. Old Second go next week, so we decided to make it up, guys. It was special. Friday edition Sean was what life less than twenty four hours notice I was like I was scrambling to find a guest. I was like Shawna's. Shawna's professional. He's done a million interviews. Maybe WANNA do it. and Lo, and behold not only. Did he want to do it? I gave him a very broad window whenever the way were over. He goes all be ready. Whenever so a true professional and professional wrestling world is still batting a thousand on showing up on time we've had gentlemen. Jag Gal, and Biggie, Langston, and brody. Of Awa fame also up on time, so professional wrestling still batting a thousand. I'm way better I'm more charismatic than big e better wrestler in the ring. I know more about him in May. So you're definitely getting staff up here. Well Jack Gallagher has also had a lot of. Actual experience well. Why am I placed third in a regional submission wrestling tournament? So sorry? Jack, don't I don't. MMA fights. Is this catch? Was it catch wrestling? Yeah was okay so I'm sure case is GONNA WANNA. Talk about that so point he is, that is his bread and butter at their trainers are My trainers are Billy Robinson proteges. I, train a Erik Paulsen. Nice warm sure. On WBZ. When Timothy Thatcher. Data. Right when he's called it a double wrist lock. House? Lock to. The one time I got to go train with Billy Robinson. He's like you only call it a Kamara. If Comoro is doing, it now is like all right cool. Anyway and I I've seen Timothy Russell. Probably I don't know at least I thought like a dozen times for pwg about never actually heard his voice it was. It was kind of threw me off again. because. The first time I've ever heard his voice and I've been covering his work for for years I. realize other him just yelling. I've never actually heard him talk so just. All right more or other stories, Alex. you're going to have to come to Bala now that you live in Los Angeles. I'm going to have to at least one day. You're going to have to come all the anime. Fighting crew goes on the west coast. Even some of the old Emmett crew goes in. It's one night and you can roll your eyes the entire time we should experience at least. Is it Rama's. Even if you think pro wrestling is ridiculous, you're probably going to enjoy at least one night of thing that whenever whenever you go to anything live. Right, this is a good time. This is on another level like even if you hate live, professional wrestling ball is basically if you're going to punk show that's wrestling because the fans are so involved in everything. It is a it is a true blast, but anyway you never got RESEDA. Never my brother lived there. My brother lived there and I was always gonna use that as an excuse to go visit him like Oh. You know. I just happened to be in town like the last week of August. I'm going to go, see my brother and go to bowl, but it never happened. I'm still Haagen that place was such a shit hole, but got I let. The. Only plays in the world I've ever passed off. Dehydration was the venue because it was so hot, and there was so little like access to water or you lose your seat. Like I'm just going to pass out rather than going water right now. So I did, and I woke up time for weird wrestling, but anyway we're gonNA talk about wrestling. Album at this point is probably let's. What this is of course, the live chat cspan eleven Wayne's just wrapped ob I'm sure we have a lot to talk, but I'm sure Sean is. Cited to get a little break from talking to wrestling talks in its fist, fighting inside of an octagon. So the you know the drill, you can ask the question you do comments Casey's monitoring on twitter or the site. You can ask whatever you want about our wrestling MMA. Wrestling amazed up and we'll talk about it so ks without further ADO, first question. Do we just become best friends? Probably. Very much so. I'm. I'm not as deep in the catch wrestling as I should be. That is foundation of training and. That's how I learned pro wrestling. Before I did pro wrestling matches, I was trained in catch as catch can wrestling because my trainers were like you need to learn how to work without ropes without turnbuckle without anything. In case you don't have them one day and catch wrestling was the foundation of that. I think it's I think it's great. Josh Burnett would be proud. Questions questions. We got Scott shut out, too. Jessica Longtime comment there. I will tell you a tale about. Brian Kelly crystals later on Sean it, it'll warm. Warm Your Day our listeners know that story too well so I'll save it for the end actually before we start can we? Is there any Anything that our fans viewers need to know about the Wayne's. That happened today. Anything special. The Hell I believe Frank Macchia was the only one that missed way. He weighed in right at the end he had missed weight before in our own Lee was monitoring that situation. Courtney Casey came in under but I. Think she was like one twenty three and a half I'm going to start with Alex on this one She came in under, but needed the. The Hoop and had her hands in the air on like Jessica I last week, but then there was some people were like on on twitter, like did she like balance on one foot, or did you kind of take pressure off to kind of strict the scale because who really needs a hoop. If you know you're gonNA, come in like one twenty three and a half or one twenty four. Now so I started you What Have Corn Casey coming in? Under but also needing the. It's IFFY. I mean why even Grad the hoop in the first place. If I mean, she could have waited without it, and if she was close, then we grabbed the hoop so obviously there was some sort of discrepancy there, but I feel like I. WanNa take an afternoon. Get who get a scale and all these tricks like. If you stand on one foot, that's not helping the gravitational pull silvis neighbors still GONNA win the same one foot so. I gotTA figure this out. I want to try to lean in every which way I feel like people know. The rest of us. Don't know something something. If you hear, but and I hope somebody had a better angle, maybe the way in show than I was watching. It sounds like a good video projects for the L. A. Crew to figure out way in trickery. Edition I'm down for that there you go, there's is ballots is belot or coming back to from Phil Acoustic Chaos I heard in the summer. I have not heard an official date I know they still want their featherweight. Grand Prix Show Sean I'll start with you. obviously none of us know they went. Balladur's coming back, but are you looking forward to the return of ballot or to have some non UFC? Fights to talk about I am although it will be weird to see them. On immediately after cops because I felt like I was just as likely to see an intimate prospect on cops as I was the prelims of Bella or show. I mean it's it's Bella toward they're going to. They're going to run a bunch of shows. They're gonNA. Find a pit bull brother to main every single one of them, and I'll watch them I. Don't know if I'm excited so to speak. I thought that when they really stepped up their roster and signed a lot of people. We would have more significant cards and we wouldn't have some of these really thin shows that they had that ran. I found myself I couldn't skip. Them would have skipped like forty percent of their shows ahead of all this and they have the talent roster to make it happen. But, if it's business as usual, I probably won't be as excited, but I'm excited to see any live combat sports or any live sport at this point so. I'll be there watching. I am I am very excited to for them to continue their featherweight grand. Prix. I was super excited I like the the the the. What did you call it? The the the presentation of the drawn seed in game shows that I thought that was amazing. That is one of the best things Baladora has ever done I really our own Ghirmay and then before. moved onto things. Put together this piece where Pedro Carvalho interviewed Patrizio Pit Bull, because of course Pedroia value is Portuguese but trains, SPG and the and Pacheco pit bull is Brazilian, so they interviewed each other and the trash. Talk on display was truly incredible. It was basically like like Pedroia like first question, Prosciutto A. Why do you think you're going to beat me and even like wide? Why did those thoughts go through your head? Chew so pit bulls. It goes counterpoint. Who are you like? That's the kind of trash talking that was on display. Beyond exciting I, think the the break benefited. What's his name? AJ McKee who had the knee injury and almost had to pull out. I think that the pause in. Action will give him benefit. Because I'm very excited by Darren called who has a little bad blood between them? Alex. what are your thoughts? Belts are coming back I know. Chris Cyborg wants to fight again. I think we talked a lot about the featherweight division last week. A women's featherweight division. We all agree that the the ballot has the biggest one. So how are you pick? Even speaking just like on the Grand Prix. I mean we all have fans that are trying to get her friends that are trying to become know fans, and sometimes it can be really hard to follow and I almost think that like pointing people in the direction of a Baltimore Grand Prix to watch is easier because it's way easier to follow. WHO's fighting? Who? What are the matchups? Logically, why are these people fighting each other? You ever tried to expand your friends like. How UFC matchups occurred it. Can't be done so I think. I. Think should capitalize on that corner of the market, maybe sort of more casual. Fans. I know people are really I personally want to see cyborg by Gano so badly. Whether that happens right out of the gays. One thing I know the US's. Probably missing hasn't gone all right now, but yeah I'm excited for. A lot of I. Know Scott Volkers, big proponent for women's May say. Yes. Planning to have their events in California. That's that is an excellent question. I don't honestly know. Has, been talking about you know admission. They will have to start going again. And I'm actually I'm most interested in better back because I want to see what their version of the no audience show will look like now like have apex. Yeah, so I'm assuming since they're. Associated, paramount, there's all these sound stages all over la that boom. They're just having a sound stage. You had the light setup and this is a chance for better tour to. Actually Kinda Kinda reinvent their lives show because I don't think we're going to have live audiences. For a while I think I'm GONNA. I'M GONNA. Say I'm going to be. I'm going to be optimistic and another year. Roughly, the same paid attendant attendance usual, ooh! I don't WanNa go there. I don't WanNa. Go there, but. I'm effects their plans with the European series Was Holding a lot of cards in Dublin, and London and Manchester like they. They were supposed to have that Dublin that London Card with like they. They really on the the James, Gallagher train the Michael Van Page train. There's a the Patriot missile during transit SPG Ireland so. If there's a travel ban still for a while. There's going to be a Lotta European. Fighters and are that aren't going to be able to fight soon. So will they had, and of course cage warriors has that partnership or like handshake partnership with the UFC? What's going to happen if the belts are sitting all these European players I can't get to America. Thank the question Phil by the way I have not thought about for a while I've been on the UFC friend so. Okay next question lost the question where to go. Simple one. Ali M inverse bertos predictions out so I started again outside of the main event I think this is the fight I am most looking forward to a specially on the main card this fight. Absolutely someone's going to sleep in this one, I think but I've said that. A million times and I've been wrong almost every single time, so Alex. what are your thoughts on Emmett versus Burgos? Claims that he's he's kind of. He's always going for the finish that he was the one who said. Whether. It's the first the last punch. You can knock you out yet. Nope, he specifically said yesterday during media. Day and sometimes. We're doing so much that I forget who says what? Yeah I think I'm going to go burgos then because I know I don't appreciate that kind of candor. Parts on Burgos. I'm rocking with Burgers I mean guitars had some trouble against top top level town like Khan owns a beat in the past I. Don't know if Burgos is there but that those are the two that presented Qatar with the most problems, but then again? You look at you. Look at where they were are sorry. Emmett rather got mixed up there I i. look at Burgos sentiment, I think he's emerging and he's. He's going to break through in this division, and this is a really good litmus test for him especially with Emmett, coming off the the Mir side back when that looked so good and the Michael Johnson win. That looked so good and this is a guy that I didn't necessarily see this. This type of performance out of in his early UFC fights I remember when he came in a few years ago, he wasn't having the most exciting fights and he he's really stepped up in that regard over the past year or so, but I think Burgos is going to overwhelm him. Casey your thoughts. I think it'll be a very I think it'd be a very competitive, but I just think Burgos is an overall a better mixed martial arts fighter. The got that you know. Knock out the first punch of the fight and argue have the punch of the fight. You know he's got that threat, but I. Just they fight ten times. Burgos when seven so obviously guy chance, but the going burgers. Do you guys remember that fight against Michael Johnson. The. Yeah! There's about one highlight in that until we got 'em it was. The first two rounds right and he was lost like the first two and a half. Wasn't wasn't wasn't dominated. Just clearly look like Ten nine Michael. Johnson's step ahead and Emmett like put like turned his lights out, hit the off. Blind like Michael. Johnson did the Michael Arm stiff it aside. Toes curled up in the air Emmett to the same thing to Ricardo Lamas was that on can't remember what. Did Michael Johnson fight. You know looked like a world beater level fighter. Until he wasn't and he, he knew he lost. Mary Michael Johnson fight, and then the Jeremy Stevens fight with Josh and that's I think there was a head or something there so Emmett. Like broke his face, and then he took a year off to recover next week. Mara Romero Ella Welcomes Miranda Mavericks. You'll see for those that don't know who Moran is. What kind of fighter is she? Casey anything you WANNA. Tell us by these fighters. Don't Marar. Merab Ella is a lot of syllables. We've seen. Random Maverick is a very high level prospect and I'm super excited. The UFC signed her and I think this is a great match up. It's it's a now just a good magic. The short notice thing is kind of scary, so 'cause does have issues making twenty five with four camp, so I'm hoping this is. This was just announced late. Rather than truly oh. You know sometimes you'll be here bike a couple of weeks after they actually they're actually signed for but now. I'm very excited for Mandarin Mavericks Super Good. But. I'm more interested in why. The U. OF C. has would never sign Vanessa Porto but naturally. Jam. Another. We're talking about Miranda right now. just very excited. I think he's like sub twenty I think he's like twenty, two or three super young. Yeah Super Young. Those of you who don't remember like Alex when we were in Houston was when we were in Houston case, we were watching INVICTA card. when we were working like just put on the TV Miranda is the fighter that Pearl in the in the main event, so she's obviously as being world class fighters. Her opponent though I just lost on one of the Jacksonville cars, and wasn't close at all was that that was the coordinator Casey tap to write. A guerilla. Yeah, she has a lot of people know her from her actions. Outside of the Octagon I think she almost she like twenty seven year. Ban Or something crazy like that and overseas for like. Something to do with cocaine and a whole lot of drugs. They don't know the exact details are laws from overseas so if you Google her name I bet all of the top stories are like enemy fighter busted with an absurd amount of drugs banned for life from competing in her home country so. I think this was going to be a lot better than she ended up being too when she came in, and she beat. Kalinda Faria like really quick. Yeah, all right that was that was pretty impressive and. Eventually, you're going to run into Kate. Lynch Acadian in that division. She fights like everybody. Unfortunately I ran into her way too early and I don't know that she ever really recovered kids if she loses next week. That might be it for. That'd be like four in a row. It'll be four in a row, and she'll drop to twelve and nine with to no contest and her lap her all of her four losses are count UK again Lauren Murphy, Montana, Dela Rosa and Corny Casey, losing a good fighters, but you can't lose foreign roque on stick around in the AFC. Yeah and. And you look at Miranda Mavericks last year. If you include I, think it was Phoenix series. She's won five fights in the last year and relative lost I think three it's it's definitely a different trajectory and momentum there dating back about a year ago. Burrell is one in three She's lost to the to Casey Dela Rosa Murphy and then being Talia Santos Corny Casey was by submission by the way, Lauren. Murphy was Tko elbows and knees, so she's getting finished to. Just to me great matchmaking angry signing. By the UFC one. Very excited. Do. Next question I'm trying to find a whole Miranda Maverick is twenty two. Quarry to my goodness. My goodness. It's only asking if. Esther gets heartburn. Why. Don't know. There's. Like some weird subplots going on in the youtube chat right now. Don't don't hang. Up On. What's going on with? Air Is that officially from Daniel o'farrell, so the reports are for I. can't even Count How many times these two have been linked together. Yeah Rodriguez and beat Maga share. Pov are supposed to fight. I think there was originally going to fight on that Dallas car that was I can't remember. The exact was a to twenty eight. That was Woodley till, and then the air fell out, and then beat ended up getting that so wlob stretch on his replacement, they were linked together a few more times than ever worked out I think this is the Fi- I've been most asking for outside of Ortega Korean Zombie, but we don't have to get into that again. Last, I heard it's not official, but it was offered so Sean. I'll start with you. thoughts on a possible matchup between beat migrants. Share Bob any Rigas by love. It I think that it's a beat would win, but I do love it. I personally I would rather beat. Be Competing for the featherweight title because I'm not keen on. I'm not keen on tidal shots off losses as good as Max. Holloway was champion I. Don't want to say that. I didn't think the fight was close, but I thought he decisively got beaten in his in his first fight, and I felt that Volkov ski against the beat would have been. A fight with a little bit more merit and that I. Don't know why I assume that you have seaweed care about that type of thing. I mean when I have to reference UFC. Debbie does that all the time where somebody will lose two or three straight matches and get a title shot I can no longer say will in real fighting. You have to win to get title shots. That's not a thing that I can say anymore because it's not true, so I'm excited for the fight. I would rather have to be in that spot. Now wouldn't mind Max Holloway fighting. Rodriguez like that. I wouldn't have minded swapping those. You would have given the beat. The also overlook a Korean Zombie. I I'm not gonNA complain about any fight that Korean zombies end ever at this point and I can't doubt him anymore because I did. Coming off is extended layoff, and even after that Comeback Oh. It was like okay well. Maybe there was an element of good fortune in that I can't I can no longer project or predict what Torri in Zombie is going to do. Your thoughts on yarns a beat, and do you agree with Sean that you would like Shabib deserves the title shot rather than Max Holloway. Not yet, but I don't think he's far away, but I do agree with Sean that's be gets this very easily. Yeah, Savage like honestly I o easily transmission. Put it in the books. Highlight Hawk. That's crazy. Crazy! Finishing year and the first first round easing submission. We'll see, we'll see Casey looking at the rankings right looking at the Rangers right now. Volkogonov! Champ, and and then the top five in order as Max Holloway Brian Ortega, be Korean Zombie in the IR. selfishly don't want to Korean. Zombie or Brian Arteta anyone else button. Which means Holloway's funding Vulcan ASCII SO's a beating I make sense They're both super tall, lanky, long fighters with very exciting styles. They've called each other out a million times so. Yeah, if you're looking at the rankings of beat would be next because Max's already lost Vulcanology Bronco. Taylor was booked up so sean wrongs. A beat would be next man up. Do not give. US These rankings drinking's aren't real. I thought to say Casey, but the rule. Is You can't use your. You can't use logic, don't. Rose as not really gonNA. Uses that. Phrase hundreds off the fact that he doesn't want. We're Tak- to anyone else, so that's what. I know I. Don't want people out of the running. Of, you, Sean I'm not I'm sure you're not aware but I've been asking for for Bryner. Take it and Korean Zombie since about two thousand fifteen I've I've found out that Korean Zombie and Brian Arteta. The first fight fell out when people started tweeting me. Are you okay and I was like why what happened? And I like Look Square, and I was like Oh! Oh you guys all looking out for my wellbeing, so selfishly or take a Korean Zombie needs inject that into my body, but let's not forget Danny. Gang Calvin cater have a big feather. Way Event Comm up on fight island. That is a real random fight that I didn't know I wanted until the announced it so and then frank caters out of the rankings. Jeremy Stevens coming off a couple of losses so. Burgos and have a big fight data that would be eight versus ten, and then where's Arnold, Alan and of course Casey. We can't talk. Without about Ryan Hall. Still Selfishly, while Ryan, hall versus Jeremy Steven so badly just for the clash of personalities. I Want Bryan Hall against anybody, but he appears like as often as bigfoot. That's hilarious. That's so funny, but Bryce Mitchell's apparently coby in the rank. He has to be in the rankings soon so loud. Fights coming outside of Benway my God for the way this. Why hate this I hate this. Title Fight Right now because it just once cater Ebay heavens then there's going to be another person. They should get a title shot. And so I think after the winner of cater gay. Zubi Year Angkorian Zombie all. All, have, legitimate. your choices for the next shot and. I just I'm just so mad that we're having Holloway. Bogan because we already saw it am. And we're going to see it again. We just don't see it now. This is this is a chance to. House bill bill bigger starting like Bokan won't become a bigger star. You beat Holloway again. To me in Holloway is effectively removed from the title picture if he loses like I just I hate I don't. I don't get I. Don't get it. It's like it's like you WANNA. She loses tuna roads arose rose, and then she's not gonNA. Fight it for another title for a while, but now that is no longer the champion. We got that epic fight which to me is the second rest house I've ever seen in my entire life widely in you, WanNa. So interesting things from Phil Acoustic. Chaos again has just guide commented on claimed that she missed weight by so much I. Don't think she's made. I. Don't use man official comment not that I've seen I. Don't think it was based off of. Comments I think it was just. Boop C., or no, she was proud of it right. Out. Of. The. Why didn't you go PM sorry? Hey I'm I'm just saying. I'm just passing along knowledge at me. I. Don't think she's she's like she's taking like subtle shades like she's tweeted. A photo of like a bit of is shitty attitude with the big x through it. Black. She's not post. She's not posted like any official comment outside of like. I'm beyond thankful for fighting on a main event this and that so no official word yet. Receipts because Khalil says she's got texts and I need to see him, so you all think that Jessica should move back up to one thirty five link that did not work out well for her the last time, and she was understandably frustrated about the lack of a one twenty five division, but. It's like she can't. She hasn't been making the weight and she has not succeeded at one thirty five, so it's a pretty rough situation for her. Admittedly outlets allows you that we've talked about this between the links. Should we should the Force Jessica and move up to one thirty five? At this point. Yeah, probably I. Don't think Chris I don't think he's going to do it willingly. I remember. Somebody asked her if she ever planned on returning to wait. And she said no, because it just felt like she was wearing a ten pound best honor, she just felt slow and heavy. But if if you're not going to prove yourself at one twenty five when you're GonNa have to live with it showing. That bulletproof vest. Ahead, do you think? Do you think she still has like hanging off? Because also let's not forget. When she fought Valentine as she, she waited so like ten fifty eight two way, and she waited to the last possible, second and bear needed the towel to make championship, but she made champs to waste, but she can't do it as you did it before and what leading up to that fight so? Maybe. Give it one more shot if she doesn't approve that, she can make the weight and if she doesn't then make move up. I like to go to thirty five and I think. I mean not talking to. Her the quality has a fighter, but she she's she draws attention. You know, so we're talking about. Are you know the fans love talking to the fans? They love to hate her. You know so, I think I think. I think she's fun to have around. I think she's fun at Thirty Five Different Matt. I think who who would you match up at thirty five right now? I would say at one thirty five. Let me look. Let me pull up the roster. Think own right now for some reason, but I feel like there's some. UFC rankings WHO. Talk Amongst yourselves people. You know an interesting Jessica Ever Nico They both got flamed from missing waiting. I! Mean Nico just like went off the grid after that Joe has a is fine Julia. Villa. Finally issues back. Maybe the and that face just at thirty five I sounds I. Think you I think you. It'd probably put her in. One of those somebody has throw in fight. They like to do not answer. The answer is Ajar eubanks because they have heat and we. Knew. There was some good match. Think of it yeah eubanks. Sitting at fourteen, and they have some heat and bad blood back and forth so that your right there right because Jessica I has what we like to call. XBOX! Yeah. Like it's not like colds, Covington people hate because he's a character and that's they hate his Gimmick Day. Just do not like I. It is I think it's completely different style dislike. From Daniel Farallon Youtube comments guys giving Dan. Hooker motivate chance against US support US yes, like I. Don't know if I'm picking them to win, but I'm not overlooking then hooker at on your. Thoughts on Dan Hooker or doesn't poor. Have you done? Hooker gets top billing. He is higher rank and file and former interim champ. Yeah I, mean you look at the track? Record of the people that that Dan Hooker is beaten and he's. He's beaten a lot of people with significantly different skill sets. He's beaten, really well rounded people. He's beaten excellent striker's. He's also fall into some excellent strikers as well, and he's run into some trouble with that and people that pressure him really heavily at some Bozo Jason Night. I think your ear. I think he lost the as well if dust emporia pressures him. I think that does import a probably wins this fight but I. Don't put it past Dan Hooker to. Throw one shot and knock him out. I mean that's it we we've seen that. Possibility were some really tough guys like Jim, Miller and Ross Pearson even like he can finish really really tough guys. Alex thoughts on port a Ab Hooker violence. I like to to point out just engaged. She's tweet when we. It. The with Dan Hooker 'cause he was confident. He could finish a because. He didn't think that he had the chin. That Paul. Did engage you? Says this dude getting murked so? I don't know I got gotTA refer to the experts here? You know. Maybe Hooker doesn't stand is as big a chance. He thinks he does at least. Maybe not in a Finnish for maybe by decision, but I don't know if he's going to finish. I completely forgot Dan Hooker. Erode Rigas that's. Why does not even I don't I? Had I've know that fight happened now, but I had no recollection of until you just said that. The lightweight division like so many of these people catch each other on their way up, and that was feather. Way went down. Hooker was still cutting. Yeah Yeah. Cause any law because he lost to. Jason neither feather way and to lightweight and went on this tear, and then got put through the ringer against some Barboza. That's been. It's only loss lately has a win has a Ko went overkill burns. WHO's fighting for championship? My goodness. Weight. Do you really put in Hooker at featherweight? I I don't really I can't think of that has almost. Another lifetime I just think he's in. Smith Jugo Santoso middle. They're just completely different people. These warlike Jessica I abandoned. Was it probably different fighter than at flyweight? My goodness I forgot that happened. I. Don't know I forgot that, but I don't know who's going to win I. Favor Portia. He's just. I think he has more paths to victory, but hooker is a super tall long rangy lightweight. WHO's camp like? Let's not forget. His camp is on fire with volcano in style bender, and that whole crude on there, but I think someone Casey said when we were previewing blades. Volkov is I when I'm thinking of this fight I. Never really taken account that he's traveling literally from the opposite side of the world during a pandemic beat over just two three days so if you take into account. All that travel is still favor poor, even more, but Casey. Are you in agreement? Yeah boy is obviously the smart pick But you know these guys who hit hard and dance tall, and I could see Dustin know catching a knee or something. You know something like that, but. I think you know I say by ten times Dustin wins a majority of the fights, but you know. But no! But I. Think, there's a chance Oh hell. Yeah, he's got a chance, so yeah, this is just a high level of violent martial arts by. Our like I, always say I. don't care. If there's no crowd, there's no crowd. I just WANNA watch this fight. From Joseph both Cynthia. Is Now number two a women's flyweight? What do you do with Cynthia? We've talked about this a little bit before, but Alex. who do you want? WanNa see Cynthia Khalil fight next. I think Kagan makes the most sense right now. and I'm probably the winner while you gotta get Joe. Joe In there too okay, so Joe Dover Shevchenko obviously has to happen kagan video, and then maybe we could vio. Whoever Loses Shevchenko Joe Joe Fight? And that would be the number one contender. I. Yeah, there's there's a so if Gioja wins beads. Valentina, which I don't think she will, but if she does, you'd have to assume they're gonNA rematch. Valentine is their big star. That division I think she would deserve a rematch. Cindy has a win over Joe Joe at straight so I think Joe Joe being champion definitely would benefit Cynthia. Roxanne Lauren or matched up Jennifer. My has a fight coming up so. Cinta Callan one to I. Mean I know. We literally just had this big conversation about ranking matter, but if you're one two and the number one is calling out the number two. Why not make that fight But Sean? What are your thoughts on? What what? She's to do as Cynthia Calvillo? I think it'd be a good idea. HAD THEY NOT RELEASE LISTS KARMA? That would have been a perfect idea. I don't know I still don't know why she's gone if they signed. Vanessa Porto, that would be a good idea like there. There are options for her all over the place, but as said if one wants to. Do it do it, and and also like I said you're running. Indicate Lynch Kagan at some point in that division, no matter who you are. So. That's a good point like if they're gonNA fight eventually why not find now and they're both free? Jennifer Mayes fighting Viviana Rougeau, which would be number five or number eight, so there's another one right there. If he doesn't want Cynthia possibly fall cat leg. It's similar thing where we talked about like all sorts. She's out of the Coun- got dominated by the Champion essentially beats number two again. What do you go from there? So if they don't want to give her number one yet maybe the winner of Maya in Rougeau or the loser of Roxanne modify, and Lauren Murphy, or maybe even the winner. People want to stay active. Fund matchups women's flyway cases your thoughts. I always thought it was just really weird. That guy was drink number two. But she was. So so she was right one or One, yeah champion! Yeah, go. Though. She was the number one ranked flyweight last week when she made event, it yeah, she was. Berry I mean if. I if if if Cynthia is drawing numbers and. We're not no one's putting butts and seizing more, but you know is on the tube or whatever, but yeah I mean Cynthia one more fight I. Don't I? Don't care if I honest thing Kagan wins, you know I just. Don't you know then you're in that situation again so probably avian fights are a lot better in theory than execution yeah. She's a great fighter. She's a great fighter that I do not enjoy watching fight. Yeah I, yeah. We also I I've been a big proponent of Mima. Canas ranked fifteen, but she hasn't been fight coming up I. think she has a six five win like six to long win streak. She is if you ever get a chance to interview. Molly Sean for anything. Just even if you want to talk about life, I cannot. She's one of the best interviews in the game. Do you WanNa talk to biology beat up sex trafficking and trying to abduct a woman from a subway out on the your person. So I've talked about this. We interviewed on the on this show and I saw more non anime new sites right off of that interview just based just on the crazy stories, molly has that people in our comments, actions or even on Reddit or twitter? Where like I don't even like in, but I love Mama can now so I think molly could could be a real big star in that division you know. What's up Cynthia fight because I don't really believe that guy was the number one ranked me even though I didn't rancor. That's not my ranking. Synthetic versus Andrea early. And really who who I thought I think everyone thought Laura Murphy whenever they fought a couple of months ago. I think. I think I think Cynthia Prevail Andrew early. We don't want you to buy. One of the fighters has to fight someone behind them. You know and I gotta that's. callen calendar. Anthony Shevchenko. Who was like fourteenth and Cowan was like to. She's got Fi-. Someone might as they wanted me to fight here. Let's do it. I. Like it though. For me. Abject didn't know how many people were giving too much of a chance there. Is Anthony. Anthony the. U. OF C. Level I. Don't I honestly don't know. I. I I don't I don't really know her previous fights, and I've actually only really seen her. She's lost in the UFC from grapplers. It's, is she? Is She a good fight? I don't know. In that division, probably UFC equality, but that's not a high bar until you get liked ten five and. That is UFC zone doing because they they let people like Liz Mexico like they let her walk out the door and. As. You mentioned Vanessa Porto's right there they can. They can have her if they wanted her. They don't for whatever reason so Vanessa seems to be that kind of the same area of the like Sarah Kaufman is. She's clearly. Top fighter. Just refuses to sign him. Don't know why, but Antonina is a multiple time. Gold medalist in Moi tied tournaments and various other promotions, her only losses in her career to Roxanne modify and challenge Kagan so. It's not like she's losing to people outside of the top five. Yeah, it's like people. Spend is not a good fight him. Who did you lose to? Anthony does not provide I. Just I just don't I actually don't know very much about it other than that. She's Donna Tina sister. Yeah she seems remains on. She's learning on the job yeah. She's. Heading Down Tina Shogun. Good but not the same. They can all be the burns, brothers, but We didn't get this question, but I wanNA. Ask you guys. Let's talk about the disrespect from the placing on the card of rocks, modifier versus Laura Murphy. Second. Now. In in our between the link show we did Monday. We were talking. We talked about this. Ambrosetti said. It doesn't matter where you're placed in the car. You know it means. You've put roxy down there because they want people to tune in early by Tacarto on that because for the Virtual Media Day. If? They were really trying to promote that. They brought him in. The. Top five flyweight or at least two. Five flyways in the find the second, the second by on a fight night, and even bringing from media, day so. I just think that's I. Just don't like that. If you're just looking at it to like okay so Courtney, Casey and Robertson are fighting after them and the ranked way. It doesn't logically make any sense. To me, so tell me why why? They're so low in the car guys. There's no. We've talked about this before unless you like. The placement of the car we've watched. We've all watched a million fights in our career. We've all been like that's a performance of the night bonus. That's a knockout of the night submission the night I am on the train where you're placing on your car directly effects whether you get a bonus or not, unless you are have a polo raise Dong Kim fight like one nine nine, and you just put on five for the age the first sight of the card. That there there are anomalies, but the tends to give bonuses to people higher up in the car. Because more people watch them, so that is. I don't there's no reason there's no reason I should be the same fight on the card again we saw was a Peres informed Megan where like to top five men's violence, and they were on the buried on the prelims too so. I have absolutely no idea but sean. Why do you think this is the second fight Gosh? I don't have an answer I just know that every time fights. I'm a little bit more amazed because it would have been real easy for her to just quit and retire after the ultimate fighter like and I expect that to happen I thought that she would. I mean it was a rough street. You could argue that she might not have been a fit on the ultimate fighter anyway because of how she had performed before that, but she went, and she put in the work and reinvigorated herself and. became a really good fighter so. It's like almost like that isn't recognized and. I when I see the placement here, I'm like okay. I get it. is a familiar name. teasha Torres is a little bit more of a familiar name. Jim Miller is to Roosevelt Robertson's coming up, but I'm not convinced that below Mohammad versus lyman good will be a better fight in the cage, then modifier and Lauren Murphy will be, and I'm not taking anything away from either one of those guys. They're both really good fighters. Especially law, but I think that Roxanne Monetary and Enlarge higher up on the card. I just think that for some of those draws them out of a hat. I think they're not they're. They're wasting an opportunity because I don't know what how what FIFA numbers looks like, but I've said this before on. Roxanne fought macy BARBARA UC to forty six outside of Donald. cerrone owning Conor McGregor Roxanne modified to the best numbers in terms of post, fight videos for us, and we all kind of credit that to that. She just ran through AC Barbara and macy. Barbara seemed to be on the cusp of being a big deal in that division. You've got the She got the RUB. s you say the wrestling business? And they didn't. Get the Rub in the you. fucking on fight night on the second. Tease man. I don't under I'm not gonNA, try and make sense of this, but I agree it is. I'd like. You brought up towards and beyond ambulance. He's stores is on that losing streak, but she's only lost to champions. Former champions or menard a lot of people think will be a future title Challenger. And Briana Van Buren is so fun to watch. She won that Phoenix US series in Invicta in like she's being. She'd be Kylian current. I love watching her fight. Her fight against was Libya Sousa was was a short notice. Fight was placement I can't quite remember for. You that's what I'm saying so like on a Sousa. Did have this big interview with our. Crews? Where it's like a lot of like, she talked about. She's not like all other women's shoes, not promoting himself on social media. She just wants to go out there and just beat up people and Brian Van. Buren just tore through and I was like Oh, my God, I wanna see I wanna to see her. NPR before fight where. I think broker, toe, or broker, foot or something, and she couldn't show up, so yeah, you're in stepped up exactly so I was really excited for that, but yeah. No, there's no reason Roxanne's should be enlarged to be so low on the card. Annoyed. We can work the letter writing campaign. I'm all for Jackson rounds. Why hasn't. Sat and I've said this a million times. Champion gets top billing. If you use a last name, you both use last theme so cost to Izzy should be izzy versus Paulo or out of San versus cost or better yet style, bender versus the racer. I like that even better, but why has not been announced? I assume it's money. Did you see follow causes, tweets, and you guys yesterday million? On it. He's like fifty. It was talking about the ultimate fighter which I am off if they want the the fighter back and I wanNA lock style, bender, and Paulo Kosta in a in a house together coach, and then we get even more captain Eric regained Eugene and Captain Eric in the same house. Just two polar opposite personalities. I'm all for it. But Powell I want fifteen million dollars I want a man of Ed view this and that I think it was a lot of tongue in cheek, but I would imagine it's money, or they wanted to headline pay per view and the only. I assume be on fire island because he's in Australia. The only view you on the island right now is has three title fights already, so maybe they're waiting for that. Maybe September. So that's just an assumption, though but I don't. I don't have a good reason for that, but instead of talking about why it's not booked. Sean thoughts on style, bender versus the eraser. I think out of sign. You would win that fight, but. They're not getting half of deontay wilder money for it that much I tell. Data White won't let that happen. Pandemic way according to the tweet, it's not in US dollars so Okay, it equals out about three million US dollars. If the people on the twitter federal correct so he he ain't GonNa give him a one tenth of Deontay Wilder. pan-demic. Dana White has the act like rick from Pawn Stars. Every time somebody comes to the negotiating table. He's like. I can do twenty bucks. bubbalicious I got a business to run here S. About money to things were in a paid dynamic and who doesn't want more money. or He doesn't answer the question. He'll start talking about like I was I, asked Dan, I'm like what do you do next Sean o'malley goes. Men Don't so many fires WanNa fight on ESPN right now. This isn't it great awesome? Yeah, but what about o'malley and he goes? We're going to build a lot of stars of the SPN. I'm like. Favorite thing he does is when he's trying to. He goes guys. This isn't new. This has happened before is that? Is that the defense? Doesn't sound like it. You think one of my favorite things, but he did I think it was. It was like maybe last May he didn't interview with Megan. Aleve and you can tell he had been fed like a question like or she had been questioned like the media really comes at you heart and then boom. He just he had him loaded just. Ready to go these dummies in the media I've got some headlines Right here. Man? I tried I. don't even try to make sense of. Anything that Dana. What anything that man says? I'm not on his radar, so I'm. TRYING TO CANCEL FIGHTS Sorry. John Are you? You're aware that we the media canceled all of the fights beginning of the year, right? That's the rumor. That's what I heard. I called Mickey Mouse. Hey Mickey. TACHI PLACE! Kill it. But. The question. Is. Cau-. Jackson around. I answered. Do the. who overrated Joe Joe Las. India people just saying things. Losing better all the time. Guys Yeah. That's the game. Life my friend. Spelling this. What's next for shot? o'malley, but? Let me. Let me a contract dispute. They go, and then a long period of inactivity as a result. The Yeah Shawn's now wrong. Sean is an Iran Sean. We've seen this before where. I've talked about this. When Israel started asking about where the paper viewpoints went after he got thrust into a main event, he wasn't supposed to made any against Anderson Silva. Just a matter of time before these incoming Uber prospects start to figure out that this is a business, and there's a lot of money left on the table that they could be making even John Jones and sells said, don't let the UFC take advantage of your twenty s get paid now so as soon as Sean o'malley was like I, just WanNa renegotiated my contract. I'm like It's begun, so it begins. If in terms of who you would like to see him, fight outs thoughts. Off. Your is jumping right through a right to. Fight. Can anyone hear me? Sizes Sean. Who Do you think? The Gosh? Wouldn't hate like Arnold Alan. Hey if this is at featherweight right. I the. Way! Right Man What about the garment, Garp is it too soon, we. WanNa knock those guys out, is it? came out and said not yet so I'm not even counting that. I want to see in fight, Dodson or song, Dong like dot because. Mallya was supposed to chew once just beat Cheeto Veira so if he wants to take that o'malley ticket then they're fourteen fifteen and then o'malley's Dotson are thirteen fourteen, and seems to be one of those guys that like they gave the. They fed him to an Dana would. Dotson beat him but Dodson's one of those guys that if he's only lost two top five fighters to them like the Marlin raises Dimitrius Johnson's the John Lineker's of the world. Where if you beat him? It's a big deal, so I like I really like o'malley, Dotson honestly because I. Actually Dotson, and the small cage were here. We look kind of normal size a little bit and think about that. Yeah, so so so the actions. Increase, And just just a comical height difference. If if they wanted to give him, somebody not ranked rob funds there too I mean. I know he's not having I mean. He had a great fight against Ricky Simone in A. Sitting at eleven is he at eleven? He's at eleven. Oh my God. At ten eleven wanted that cody statement font fight. They. They've been linked together. By but unfortunately stayman is probably dealing still with the fall of death of his brother right now, so he's not even thinking of a fight he himself said was. Who Do you want to find Seo's man? I gotta go to funerals I. I was like all man. That is the saddest that is just the saddest, so but Jimmy various sunset was coming off losses. He's probably not gonNA find anytime soon so I. Think the answers is Dodson or song for o'malley. Those are the two flights that would make sense for me. And a new contract you have it. After the actually look at the UFC ranking. Twenty. Fire apparently. from fight owl. Do you guys? Thing is well priced himself out? Perhaps UC will make an example out of him, so I liked the phrasing of Christ himself out. Because Ob Covington said this would happen. He did an interview with our own Damn Martin months ago and he goes Mazda core has prides himself out in that fights, not going to happen and then I went to interviews men at the dominance media day I go, Colby says Mazda asking price themself out, and this will happen like Oh. This fight is going to happen and then guess what that's not happening. So call conches, the Oracle new his former training partner would quote price himself out He's already asking for a lot of money or what? He's worth I should say not a lot Dan Away will the UFC make an example out of him did. They already, did they? They skipped over the title fight, so they already. There's your answer. There's a weird like seven person waiting game that goes around at all times. It's like either D. as brother. Conor McGregor Maysville Habib, and then as the guy. That's just kinda stuck there. Saying which one of these guys is GonNa, show up and fight at one seventy anytime soon because I got gotta fight one of them, and then it's Gilbert Burns. And then Leeann Edwards just happens to be the eighth fighter waiting seven man line, who very well should have been fighting for overdue over Burns. But he's said I. Don't think he he would have been ready. especially with the travel. Ban in London and all that stuff don't say Mazda. I just don't seem back documents if I if if he's the kind of guy that I know. That I think that he is. I think he might be done like I. Don't know. He doesn't seem to be somebody that wants. He wants to dictate his own terms. He doesn't anybody push them around. Like the like the Diaz brothers that take like two year layoffs if they're not getting what they want. More, power is not when they come back. People go. Hey, who's an ideas? They take two years. Off and they're still. You know. There's still big star so I. Think I'm good with maths but I. I don't think you price himself. Ally just yeah. Yeah Yeah, I'm like that term. Do all right An ozone a little I'm but yeah so no, it's only the asked quick. NOPE, virus, this do rapid-fire I'm just gonNA. Throw questions at their era, and this is a lot of yes, no questions. which finder tested positive for Cova this weekend? I don't think a fire did I think Matt for Vol is coach did or was in contact with someone who did? Billy Q. Really, Corn Taylor who fought who who did he beat that crazy man with the with the orange beard on the on the crazy man with a orange beard i. he tested positive. He had contact sitemap for Bola so they pulled out for all out just to just to be safe. I than that To! Miman did as positive way like like a month or so ago. Liming. Who Comes back, fight I nate, Diaz Mazal Jones or secluded. We've had this question. A few times. SO SEAN, since you're new to the show, who who fights I. In order for you think fights I never. I never I'M GONNA. Say Jones. Jones Mazda also Hudo and Nate Diaz. You put the retired fighter before they. Doubt Yeah. I. Got, his one taste of pro wrestling, and he was in there with a bunch of UFC legends, and then get mentioned like at all, so I don't think it's going to be as fruitful outside of the FCC things. What do you think that comes back? It comes back. To do the forty five thing, or is the comeback straight? Whoever has the belt thirty five? What do you think? What do you think? I don't think that he's interested in fighting anybody? That's a champion or deserves an actual title shot anymore so. I didn't WANNA fight benefit as he didn't WanNA fight sterling. He didn't WANNA fight. Yawn fight like anybody like that. He wanted to fight. Although Dominick Cruz, and I think he was going to try to find Sean shirt somewhere and fight him like anybody who was well removed from from that picture. He was interested in fighting so I would be surprised if he fought anybody off a win. He's probably GONNA. Try to fight, although even if although loses, he'll come back and try to fight him. To Be Japan. They. Showed me. This point. Want to rank those. owner. Alex Alex hasn't answered those I've answered this a million times. Okay I'm GONNA GO Jones. Pseudo as Moslem all because I can't go back and wanted just said so. I actually think Mazda was gonNA fight I because he was the only he doesn't have a belt like Jones. So who does retired and nate has already gone like years without fighting, so the the track records there so I put Mazda Dogfights I. Wouldn't just order a replica version of a youth see Tom. He also has a. he has a bell one of one. So, what? I have no idea. branch Monday through Friday Jose Dominguez in your opinion. This is an all cap, so please read it in your opinion to. More than eighteen percent from. Comments and he has four quest marks Dr Shawn Creamer. Yeah Yeah, of course they did. It's a pretty simple question for me. Yes, they do. Say No. Yeah, no eighty percents. That's a little high. No, of course they deserve. I don't I don't know how the breakdowns happened, but I know that. The fighters deserved to be paid way more than what they're paying at some point, it just kind of feels disgusting when you watch somebody's head slam against the canvas for five thousand dollars so. I feel real gross sometimes. Anyway. I say no and trying to justify this like. Oh, because when I watched it UFC. I don't care who's in the cage punching each other I just like the fact that the Cajun's eight sides. And One Times eight equals eight, so you'll like the math right there. Math! Math so eighty-one percent. That's what they deserve. Keep the math and check. On Jones first loss will be to blank. Casey I'll start with you. Where you're lost. The dominant grace was just GONNA say. John Jones first laws will be to. We are less than Matt Hamill. I lost. I lost will be to transit. As I was GONNA say Sean. I'm going to say in gone news well. Alex. If he fights. Dominic grade is again then I think it will be raise. On. Agree with Ma'am means razor in Ghana I think that's the answer. I think he has I think he I think he favored I'd still favored on the rematch with Ray is but I think fighting gone. WHO's bad for your health? So I'm going to say in Ghana. Spy Carlisle that is the crazy man with red hair, and all the APPS that Billy Gordon Taylor lost to. Turn his back in the middle of the fight. He's a fifty five all right. I don't off top of my head. You guys were over an hour. All right so that is a wrap for this absolutely at one one. WHO's next are widely and what are the thoughts? What are what are the chances against the champ? WHO's next Yeah I. Guess Right Unless Todd John Just magically heels, and they give her the title shot which. I Know Alice. Excuse off as. More as I know I. Miss Her so much. I wish are very speedy recovery. Talk. Momentum she has to know. Just. Come back against somebody. WHO's that? WHO's next? I don't know that's a good question. These are rosengard winner. It is but I feel like she just. Destroyed Andrade like, would you want a rematch that now? Yeah, why we? I mean it was overseas and you know like we've heard lots of times from fighters. Like or what do you think someone getting no knocked out in what I think. She lost thirty seconds. That is the worst loss than losing fifteen minute decision. I what's up with? Sorry what's up with Tatyana whereas these days? We were talking her next so after she being a answer off in Chicago of one year ago. She. I'm sure you remember that fight user on work terrifically dominant like she was not as dominant as before. I Know Alice doesn't like me calling her this, but a lot of people compared to female Habib. With just her dominant wrestling. She didn't do any of that and we asked about that. She hurt her neck so bad that she couldn't shoot for. Blast will take downs like it was so and you can't mess around your neck. Yeah so I think she's trying to recover their. Because if not I I would imagine she would have already fought. retile right off of that win. So she she's not ready to go, and Alex wants Alex. Kelly wants to let us know. It's UELI NOT Wiley apology. Nina's on the shelf because she's giving birth to her in at. Cloudy, it's coming off that quote. Unquote win over Angela. Hill all of the spars has a fight coming up, doesn't she? And then Don John Non and sitting at ten Marina Rodriguez Nine, so yeah, you're probably right. Casey on winner of rose vs on garage. I think that's. Bullshit ranking because everyone had Anthony Hill beating Klaudia yet when he did the rankings, they still put enter the hill behind Claudia. which is the stupidest thing if you thought the person? One in the rankings are completely subjective. What you think so while the everything sucks. How many people they have on that panel now like four? Amanda reboots has a has a fighting phase coming up, too. That's another. Vision I know page. It's the last night of pages. Contract so she's off to greener pastures that that's another loss. Alexa crosses no longer fighting a straw. Wait I want to see her five. Marine Rodriguez. That fight is going to be super violent, but marinas not ready for that, so yeah, you're right. Casey drives rose winner. Simple. WHO's the most flexible on the Eisai chat now Sean if you weren't aware my pizza, Carol is the most flexible media member in all of sports. You can put his feet behind his head. Yes, he can all. All listen to her. The store is a million times, but in the middle of UC to forty six media day. We were waiting in line interview Anthony. Pettis and PC goes decides. That was the appropriate time to let me know that he could put his feet behind his head and did it in. The middle of maybe about one hundred reporters. And we all just he was on the ground. Go look at this and he just put. In terms of WHO's the most flexible, I am the most inflexible so as soon as Casey. For those of you that used to be pretty flexible I could like still occasionally when I go to the gym and there's somebody that's in there the first time I'll pull off like something stupid from Rubber Guard or go plotters something, and that's about the extent of these days so I don't think I'm up there with this panel. We're pretty close. I needed. Good stretch, though I'm not one of those I just instantly Outta bed flexible. It's like I'm an old man type. Alex. Used to be flexible. Mike Sean I started. Lifting weights and I wasn't focused on. Full Mobility I lost a lot of a range emotions. While you're all three of us are more flexible than me inflexible. Bad from years of tennis so. You actually have the tendency. That person. All right, but is that a rap rap on the east side? So Sean? I'll tell you the story. Brian Kelly real quick We have a fan who is a big Fan Jessica as you saw who is very much into crystals, and we've kind of adopted the crystal method specifically from Jared Cannon Years Years of talking about Crystals Bryant Keller also. Also in crystals and Jessica gave us a crystal to give to Brian Kelleher before his fight UC to forty six, after he weighed in we gave him a tigers crystal, which supposedly magnifies and increases a monetary wealth and good fortune. One hour later he gets bumped up to the main event of con- McGregor Card and wins the post. Fight Bonus so. I'm not saying it wasn't. The Crystal was one hundred percent the Tigers I crystals. So if you want if you're in the business for Crystals Jessica I know you're watching this sense. Awesome crystals, I I mean I'm just saying I was like okay. What are they talking about Christie? And I googled. It and I don't know if the same second thing comes up for you guys as me. But it ain't a wonderful. and. Google Crystal crew. I just googled crystals. Just crystals like okay. Is that slang for something? I get the feeling you all are pushing crystal meth on this show but I. Look in the second thing that came up on my google. Undersea crystals as an amethyst Polished Crystal Palace. Definitely, not what we were talking about, I would hope nice talking. Whatsoever do not send those to me. You know as well as I. DO WANTED ARC. Crystal Bundle where sixteen thousand dollars I. DO welcome this gift. Well. You know as well as me. When you start telling audiences not to send you something. They're going to send it to you. Well Jessica Chris coup, right there is is boom, so if you get a bag of crystals in the mail that's Jessica right there or she has you up for Christmas anyway. That is the end of this episode of this special Friday edition as side I was so happy to finally have sean on the show, and of course Sean as the guest of honor. The floor is yours to plug whatever you want to say. 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Between the Links: Episode 3 | Jorge Masvidal vs. UFC Continues, What's Next For Cynthia Calvillo & More

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

1:05:55 hr | 6 months ago

Between the Links: Episode 3 | Jorge Masvidal vs. UFC Continues, What's Next For Cynthia Calvillo & More

"You're listening to the medium long as. I walk up to a brand new edition of between the links on them may fighting dot com, I and my khaki host and moderator of the program, and we have quite the matchup for you this week in lots to discuss who's actually difficult to narrow these all down, but before we get into this thing, let us introduce the combatants I the challenger You. Guys all know this man from tsn in Canada and I can confidently say that throughout all the different iterations of the show over the years. Years this man delivered one of the greatest performances in the history of between the links, and maybe had the best answer to a question in the history of 'em, podcasting ladies and gentlemen Mr. Aaron Brown sitter joins US Aaron Welcome back. I guess to between the links. How are you I'm good? I saw Jose shaking his head. When you said that I had the greatest answer. The history of podcasts I mean we. We just got gotTA silence the doubters. I guess that's where we go from here. That's what we're here to do. Aaron and returning for his second title Defense undefeated in his between the links career, the man with the best mustache, and may media to become more of a full grown beard against multiple TRIPS, Vegas Jacksonville. Do for you, but he's back from Vegas once again from FEMA fighting dot. com Mr Jose. How are you? Let's get this out of the way. The answer to the question of what the great with the greatest answer was. Who has the best hair and anime not just immediate anime? It's like Oh, it's Ed. SHABAZZ IAN and arrows like no toes, Young's and Mike was like that is the greatest of all time, and I was like that would make a lot of sense so. For those of you wondering in the comments section what the answer was that was the answer the the greatest. The greatest answer was Jose. Young's has the best hair and have a May. Let's do it. Actually I have the best here on May right, so let's just get that out of the way you and mark at one point in time you and Margaret Mandi are tied for the bank. Jimmy Smith through yeah. Battle commences. So real quick just for those who are new to the game. We didn't have video last week. It was chaos. It was a monstrosity if you will. logical. But. Here's how the Game Works, so these gentlemen are going to give their takes on four different topics in based on how they present. Their arguments doesn't matter if I agree with them or not. They're going to be awarded one point for each round. I of course can ask follow up questions as my show. I have the right to do so and. After four questions, we may have a winner. We may not have a winner if we do not. We're GONNA go to the knockout round. One question decides at all. Neither of these gentlemen know what that question is, and then Casey and the truck mount the second best mustaches media will render the file decision. If Jose wins. He continues this impressive title Defence Street, and if Aaron Wins I, don't know what the Hell's going to happen might have interim strap. By vacate a title here. I don't know but the tension. You can cut it with a knife, so let's get into episode three of between the links. Let's get into. I guess the Big Story Right. Now In Octagon Action I guess you've see on ESPN ten. Went down on Saturday night. In Las. Vegas it was that classic. Don't judge a book by its cover type of events. There's some great performances. Let's kick things off with the main event. We have Cynthia Cavallo jumps up to one thousand five first time. She's been there since her pro debut first main event, not just in the AFC. Professional career and she delivers a great performance against Jessica gets unanimous decision. I gave Cynthia five rounds I knew there's going to be a forty eight forty seven mix in there somewhere, because judges, judge and but. We get to the point in the sport especially right after that fight where we start playing fantasy matchmaker, and with when it comes to city Cavallo. There's a lot of options for her right now. I've seen them all. We had callouts big fights coming up in the division, and there's people who say you know what? She just beat the number one contender. Let's let's jump right into a title fight. Let's have jumped the line. Some say let's just give her the winner of shift Janko versus Calderwood, when and if that gets officially books, so Jose we'll start with you if it's up to you. Where does Cynthia Calvia go from Saturday? Night's big win and y all I. Don't think there's a scenario where she skips the Q. The US's been pretty adamant. That will not even adamant like they've booked Joanne Calderwood. And a lot of number one contender fights, and she's always kind of up. Sure whether it's to be so when like Cynthia, or like random arose back in Straw days or even against count UK against Chicago. There's scenario whatsoever where. They don't give joined colder with the next shot. That's not official, but I can't imagine that Cynthia skips that q since he's been pretty adamant that she wants to stay active. There's that big again. There's also that big flyweight fight coming up this week with Roxana modifier Lauren Murphy I think the winner of that should be next in line. I know there's. There's a little bit of the Senate the, but again it's hard fantasy match mate when these fights haven't happened yet. Because like I always say, it could be a three round war, and they both get six months suspensions, and then Cynthia has to skip the queue because he's just next in line or join with gets her, and they have to fill in. SCENARIO IF I don't have a problem whatsoever. Cynthia wants to to wait it out for a title fight, but she has been adamant. You want to stay active. She also brought up the fact that she likes representing East San Jose and she wants to really show the kids. What hard work does so. She's doesn't strike me as someone who wants to sit out. Count Shuki called her out on twitter. I think our exact phrase Gimme Gimme. She fought for the title, already lost dominated by bouncing Shaneco, and they came back and had the best foreign for life against balancing a sister. Chango. On the on the first fight card here in Las Vegas so if someone of that calibre calls you out, neither of them have fights booked at the moment. They both want to be active I like that fight. I like as I get what people are going to say to so wait. But also when you say, should she wait for the winner Valentina Joanne Calderwood. Valentina loses. They're gonNA. Give her the rematch against doing color. There's no. There's no question it. Cynthia does have win over Georgia which will help her. Down the line, but again the biggest thing that helped be normal in contender, but no I. Don't think she's the cue I liked the Contra Kagan fight, but I also think Roxanne. modifier Lauren Murphy. The winner of that should be the next should get the the WHO I'm assuming. Bounty and we'll be joined it again. Nothing's for of these days should be next in line over Cynthia especially because Cynthia wants to stay hyperactive. Aaron, what say you I don't see how they would be ahead of the Calvo Cynthia just beat the number one person the way these ranking's always seem to work is if you beat the number one person now you're the number. One person happened with Gilbert Burns, and that's how they're justifying this title shot and having him jump Mazda Vidal. In terms of the supposed cute for the title shot so with this particular matchup this weekend. You've got monetary. Monetary and you've got Lauren Murphy I. Think it just makes sense to have Cynthia Calvin fight the winner of that, in fact I spoke to her manager today and I said. Do you guys feel like she's next in line for the title I should she wait and they said No. She doesn't want to wait. She wants to pay somebody and they thought that the logical next step would be to face the winner of this weekend because they know that. That CAITLIN Kagan didn't have a lot of success against Valentine Shevchenko. The UFC probably doesn't WANNA put her back into a position where people would consider her a title fight because we kind of know what's going to happen if that comes to be Cynthia Calvillo did a great thing by moving to flyweight, you know she was always on the cusp of the top five at the straw weight and kept missing wait. All these circumstances kept happening now she's. She's in a perfect position. She jumps in in a main event. The first non title at least scheduled for flyweight it ended up being a catchweight main event and UFC history a pretty big platform and ends up getting the job done and doing so without any questions that you know I don't think anybody could argue that I won that fight so by I. Don't mean me I mean Jessica I, so I think what next in line for her. would be the winner of this weekend's fine if she doesn't want to stay busy, but I could totally see us scenario where she just sits out. What happens with calder wooden Shevchenko and get that next shot if she doesn't want to sit out because I think she's earned, that's but see. Here's the problem. With that, you're making sense, Aaron and that's not allowed when you're talking about the UFC rankings WHO's fighting for the bantamweight title. The man someone that's Owen one in the UFC, Bantamweight Division, so your answer makes is logical, but that's where the fault lies when you're talking about UC title fights, so you think macy Barbara should be next in line them Dr. Well one of the things that one thing that said the did. Well. Obviously, she's found a home. She's at Aka. She's Costa. Rica parents so that helps know. That was a big problem with her. Trying to figure out where she was going to train. Who GonNa Kosher? Who is going to be part of our team? And she seems to have gotten that. figure it out, but. I thought she delivered a huge way that press conference and I think she took steps to becoming star. Obviously, you should not there yet. And maybe it was just the timing of that conversation because they interviewed. Cynthia Cavallo like two or three days after that was announced and. Aster about the negativities surrounding the fight, she gave her take on it and basis. Like what am I supposed to do? Say No like if you don't like it, don't watch it. Who Cares so? People sort of knocked her personality. They say she's boring. They don't they don't like a personality. For some reason. I don't subscribe to that theory at all but Aaron back to you. Can Cynthia be star, and if so, what does she need to do to improve her stock? I guess in that position. She needs to be Ballantyne Janko. Nobody's been able to establish star power in this division outside I'd I'd maybe argue macy Barbara I, think macy. had the opportunity where she kept saying she kept calling her shot. She kept saying I. Want to be the youngest UFC champion of all time, and that's something you can get behind. You can see how she's becoming successful. She's dominating. She has unfortunately a misstep against rocks, modifier ferry, and now that star power has diminished, and then you look at page van. Zandt who is kind of bouncing between straw-weight and plywood. He's not really sure where she wants to be really sure what promotion he wants to be an either so there isn't a whole lot of star power to go around and flyweight. Nobody's able to establish themselves because nobody's come close to beating Balentine Shevchenko and I don't think that anybody feels that. There's anybody who's close to having a shot at beating Shevchenko so to become a star. You need to beat the star. And in this division there's only one. Oday! What do you think of before you answer I WANNA throws out I. Put on twitter. I was like. If you guys have a question that you guys want these guys to to to Banter on, throw it out there and our own gender shoe tweeted me and said how many flyway contenders can Valentina Shevchenko beat if you line them up one after the other, so I thought that was a pretty funny question, but What do you think Cindy? Copy Oh. Can you be a star what you need to do to get there? I mean anyone can be a star. It's just a matter of you have to win. Win Impressively, and you have to be vocal or had something that will. People will gravitate towards Lahore Mazal before he fought until. is also fighting. A lot of veterans from the ultimate fighter takes your off and incomes and just puts on the run of his career. and. Does so without holding back or or censoring or being someone he's not in. Fans loved that you need. To Vio like you said, let it out. Let it all out after fight I think that's a born. Which Yeltsin used to call fighters out. She can't go up there and say I'll fight whoever. Just give me the top contenders. It does work. We've seen fighters Gobert Burns. And Donald Sironi get a cult following because of that like I was in Florida, Jacksonville Gobert Burns volunteered to fight. At middleweight to save that fight because he was cornering user cornering, obvious entity Lucas so fires that who will fight anyone anytime anywhere. We'll get into fallen, but if you win the big fight of your career, and now you want to know in your new division against the former number, one contender and all eyes are on you. You better use your platform to call out a big name opponent. or or say something other than I'll just fight all the contenders I don't care I think what Aaron said is pretty on point with macy Barbara. When he said she was vocal about she wanted to be the youngest champion ever, and that is something like she. How many interviews did she hold up or countdown on with her phone? Like that is stuff like that is important. Winning is the most important because the end of the day. Even John like people didn't like watching Jon Fitch fight, but after a while you can't deny the man of title after you string together a crazy amount of wins winning his most important, but getting fans attention is. Joe Is just as important, if not a close second, because at the end of your prize fighters, every Ben Aspirin might be one two in the UFC, but we're still talking about him. so Cynthia Calvia needs to be vocal. She needs to have something that people will gravitate towards an I agree with you. I agree with Aaron that there are no stars currently not named Valentine of Shevchenko. Doesn't mean they can't macy. Barbara's up that I think and I. Don't know about you. I don't know if you look at your numbers by. What was it used to forty six the CONOR McGregor card? The fighter that did the best numbers for us and made fighting outside of the main event. Sironi and McGregor was Roxanne modify. A that might be because she was fighting. macy Barbara and might have been like. Some some some kickback found, but she was also. She has that following with the anime in the weeds and the nerds and that culture so I think she could be a star if she keeps winning and not changing, I think Mama can could be a big deal. That's the aside she was. She had that store beating up a sex trafficker who tried to abduct someone at subway I saw more non. MMA media outlets right about that. Then I've seen about a media outlets Geno writing about modern McCain outside of like the UK basis and so I think she could be. A star if she doesn't change a lot of fans and red specifically was like I don't even watch fighting, but I'm a mama can't fan for life after that store? So the spurs stars exist they just have to. They have to win and they have to again. Do Unlike macy Barbara and have some people can latch onto and really connect with an want to tune in and there's a there's not a less true statement than the one. You just made that anybody could be a star. Look. There are barely any. That ever get any sort of crossover success in the sport. You're talking about like point. One percent of the population here like there are the haves and the have nots. You have to have not the have on two hands in terms of people that have star power in the sport so to say that Oh. Cindy Azeglio can become a star. She used to call out somebody with intriguing the division. There's nobody to call out with intriguing the division like short of calling. She. Listen. I'm going Beach Janko I'm going to be the one that does it and. She's new to the division. Maybe it doesn't even feel comfortable doing that, but to say that anybody can become a star like there's just there's. You're at. You're at the press conference. Who What Fighters Rob sitting next to? Kobe Bryant in New York. Francis Gano. Cody Garbrandt and Cynthia Calvia so they try. They stuck an extra cody Kobe Bryant, but she ended up failing a drug test positive for marijuana, which is a whole nother conversation and that Kinda puts you down. Tracks with UC tried. They saw what she could do by she she's. She's slowly climbing back up. There sh a win over number. Contender is a big thing, so yes, sick of you could be a star because you have already tried it in the Pat. No I don't know about that though I always am short of beating Shevchenko I. Don't know how you become star. She could be like not saying she will, she could be a star I'm not saying it's. The! The UFC tried if she beats balancing interesting, which I don't think she will. She is made but she could be. A star was the question. Fiery first routed. We like to see so we like to see they could all become stars I think that'd be awesome. Everyone like there should be more stars like Israel it should be. ICON right now, but he's just not barrier. Points going to Jose but man was this with that was a tough one. This is why these guys are going to be future hall of Famer, just became a star. Look at that. Show, anyone can be a star anything. You could take from the subsoil far you. You can all be star. It's like Cynthia will be a star. She beat Valentina and can be a star if you beats me. But we gotta talk about the other side of the Coin Jessica I we talked about this in the post fight on Saturday night because I can't remember a fighter who was a number, one ranked contender their division. That just gets as much heat as Jessica I guess I mean she doesn't do herself a lot of. Including missing wait for the second consecutive time on Friday and we've come to learn that because of Cynthia Calvi IOS post-fight and Joanne Calderwood on twitter as well there may be more stories some alleged tomfoolery with the hoop and some text messages to Calvo's manager. Daniel Rubinstein, suggesting that I missed weight by a lot more than point two five pounds, but we're going to start with you. I missed. Big Pre pandemic in December by five pounds in that pfeiffer against Rico and this bike came together quickly, and she misses weight again. She was on the virtual media. Saying you know what I'm GonNa make I'm GonNa make it. Don't worry about that, but I know we're in a strange time in the world, but after back to back wait MRS is it fair for people to suggest her days at twenty five or over at least for the foreseeable future? No I don't think so I mean I think really it has reinvented her entire career. They opened the flyweight division I. She was to me the prototypical flyweight. She was right in between where you'd want to be between strawweight bantamweight. They move from. Make your move back up. I think would be a real disservice to her. I think that we've seen her make at one twenty five. We have these kind of anomalies right now in a row, and that's really bad, but if anybody's going to really take it to heart, it's going to be someone who had their hard on their sleep like just like I would have thought that going into this fight because she was so. So disappointed and devastated about the last time. She says they've been tracking all kinds of things and trying to really make sure that this doesn't happen again, but here we are so i. don't think that you'd be doing any favors by moving her back up to bantamweight and I don't think that's really the best case scenario for her career. I think she goes back up the Bantam we. We're going to see what happened. Last time. She had a losing record and bantamweight. She comes to flyweight and up until this lost to cal. She hasn't lost anybody outside of Shevchenko she was. That's the reason number one and individuals beating everybody put in front of her. You mentioned. Joe A lot of people thought she was going to be the next up and comer in the division. She UK, and like she's beating the people that she needs to beat the state number one up until this past weekend, so I think that this should be her home. I know that she's had these missteps, but we've seen a lot of fighters have missed in terms of making way Hendra, and how he bounced back in his career now Jessica is late. Different careers might not be the best example, but we've seen a lot of. Of fighters come back. They have issues making wait. Do something that figured out and I think the Jessica I will figure it out like you mentioned. She doesn't get a lot of hate and I think that it's weird. There's this dynamic where if you're really real like dude. People seem to gravitate towards you, but if you're really real and you're a female. Ronda Rousey was even though she was popular for a time. If you lose all of us, everybody just turns on you and I think an unfair double, standard and I think Jessica. is kind of cool in the fact that she wears her heart on her asleep. She's she's saying she wants to fight someone in an alley like these kinds of things for whatever reason people the way, but if it was like Mike Perez, saying wants to fight someone in an alley. He's like the coolest guy so. I don't know what the the thing is with Jessica that rubs people the wrong way, but I feel like at. Her Real and her wearing out on her asleep. Yes. She and she's a great interview to. If you ever get the chance to talk to her for those aspiring journalists out there, she's a great person to talk to. She does where her sleeve and she's very open and honest but Jose. What do you think because we've seen this? Before Arran brought up a couple of examples, but in the AFC. And then they bump them up for a couple of fights, and if they do well the AFC we'll give them. Another chance to come back down is a fair to suggest something like this for Jessica. I or is it too soon to start having those conversation I? Think think she needs if she misses again. Then you have to have that conversation, because let's not forget to when she fought Valentine in Chicago. Aaron. I. You are at the hands for that. The official ends its nine am to eleven am local time. She weighed in like ten fifty eight in Chicago. So it's not like that cut is easy. I don't know her routine outside so if they do want to give her one more chance I. She proved she can make one twenty five. She did it against Ballantyne, so it's not like she can't make change to like Aaron Ernst and said she's not losing to quote losing the bums she's losing to. Count She. She's beating counter Kagan. She's beating all the people that you need to. She lose to Valentina like. Female time she lose to ban away like Sarah McMahon. Why should? Like beds go. Hey, like say what you want about batch for title, so she's losing to people that fought for titles, so she's not losing ten to fifteen. She's losing one three. I think when you say she's. People are turning on her because when you lose. I remember when you'll want to stare down with Wiley. You want or like even with rose like a lot of people turned on Yulon. When those happened, but then APP she puts on. Art Like in my opinion, one of the greatest fights of all time against widely. I think that's a lock for fight of the. I can't imagine anything being. It's one of if not the greatest if I've ever seen, so people turned on her. She lost, but the performance in losing got people to like lover against, so yes just is losing fans because she was losing, but it's not like she's putting on these epic fight of the year candidates like. Her fight against Calvia, I, don't remember. The highlights like they're. The fight happens, but there's not like those moments. Where is and you WanNa like just kicking each other simultaneously and just buying down their mouth. We'd go to war. The fight happened. There's not a lot of talk about after that. In terms, an X.'s and O.'s so she goes out there and puts on an act performance at loses. Fans will like her. She goes out there. Everyone already hates her and she lays an egg. It's not gonNA do her. Any favours her calling out sarge for missing weight and the missing wait times in a row knocking to do a favor so first and foremost win. But even in loss if you just put on a per, we've seen it. You lose put on a great performance. Fans are still going to love you so. If! She had gone out there and just. Just went boss of the wall against Cynthia and still lost. We would be having a different conversation I think. It's kind of an anomaly though I mean to have a you wanNA versus fight over five rounds it's. Rare. Through especially when? I. Ask you what the Best Women's flyweight fight of all time. A women's flyweight fight. The bar isn't really high. Here's when. You can't think of anything off the top of your head. And that's not a disrespect to the women's flyweight. There have been a lot of good fights in the division, but nothing really stands out if you ask what the best women's bite of all time like Jong versus. Joon is like the consensus best answer. But on demand. Why you WANNA has gained a lot of respectability back, so to say that Jessica I'll, she needs to do with that like well. It's easier said than I would say it doesn't have to be a fight of the of the decade fight, but a fight that at least she's competitive in that semi exciting. I know that's like easier said than done just. Oh, just go have a good fight. 'cause I'm not a professional fighter I can't say that so a human being, but. Don't talk a big game this way. Go out there and maybe not have the greatest performance, and we shouldn't be surprised that fans like we've seen people turn on fans like. Like like there are more fans. Turn on fighters more than the big show turns on opponents in the wwe like just. Like, it's like how all of a sudden connors hated because he pulls out a UFC two hundred dollars and everyone loves conor because he fights. Nate's two. Oh, two like it's. It's this back and forth with fan so I all for all I know just guy makes weight and puts on a good performance next mind. People love her again, so it's who knows I'm not going to try to predict fight fans. Action sinking. Their behaviors is very difficult. Right and it's. The Angela Hill cloudy fight was good and people hate Angela because she's saying that. She thinks she want that. I probably another concept. One hundred percent agree I think that's another conversation that I. Think Angela would like to have especially in the year twenty twenty and what's going on in the world right now, but my scenario can also be proven wrong, too. Well, since this question with weight and stuff, and I want to go back to you Jose because we talk about this I don't know if we've really talked about an addressed it like during one of these shows or anything like that, but something we talk about in slack channels. Talk about before we hit record step. We're seeing some of these fights and we. We saw three on Saturday where these matchups are booked, but it ends up being up awake last like Brian Kelly hers at two of those fights, and no one's going to say like well. This fight shouldn't count in the bantamweight rankings because they're fighting featherweight like not that I've seen anyway so with these cards being put together as quickly as they have. Especially in the midst of a global pandemic should the just go that route for as many of these fights they can like outside a title fights I. Think is up to the fighters. The fighters can make way their their natural wildlife fighting weight, and they don't want to fight in I'm not forced to. If say Sugar Sean o'malley like I can easily may one thirty five in a week I don't have to fight A. A one forty five I think why force him why why force anyone to move up in weight if they can make weight healthy, and constantly like the health scenario is the biggest thing. If you can't make your weight on my two weeks, notice fight away class up an opponent in your way class like like the code statements and the Brian Keller's even which Sugar Sean at one forty five. Was that another five? Yeah, so? That was thirty five, so like perfect example. Fight. He can make it so I if it's not broke. Don't fix it if you can't make wait on short notice and you can find opponent in your way class. Why why? Change across the board of people can make weight and healthy and comfortably. Aaron, you have spoken with Dana White many times, and regardless of time short notice CETERA. He said it made sense. Nothing irritates more than a fighter stepping on the scale missing weight. Should he be a little more leaning here? Like what he ever soften up on the stance, especially now considering every negative story that comes out to Dana from the media at these scrums about his big name fighters or towards the company in general, his answer's always goes back to listen. We're in a pandemic right now. You mentioned that all the. Previous events. Nobody had any issues. Right so I think that some exceptions need to be made. If you look at the Tyson, Nam Bite. His opponent took the fight on very short notice, and then missed weight so I think that, and then you look at the Mirage delete fight with Gustavo Lopez that was made into one forty five. I think that what you're talking about. Really short notice opponents I think there should be a little bit of wiggle room. They're thinking like a five pound type, thing and allowance like a in the fight, but most of the time it seems like the athletes are making weight even during pandemic. If you look at the previous cards and I think that. That when there's a ranking involved with and Cavallo you gotTA. Have it that weight class, because otherwise I feel like it doesn't really have any bearing on the ranking, because it's not really the exact same fight. If you're doing it at like one thirty verses one, twenty, five, so I think that the fighters have proven I mean even that I buy back I was so shocked. I was talking to people all we. We're GONNA have four or five people. Miss wait for this card because we're in a pandemic, all the conditions are so different. We don't know how these guys are Gonna be able to cut the way it's GonNa be so different. Creatures of habit. Only one fighter missed wait for that first card I was shocked and I. It just goes to show how professional athletes are and how seriously they take it now there's GonNa be issues where people miss especially in the female divisions, because they've got to deal with the menstrual cycle, and that can make their weight fluctuate a lot, and it's also a lot harder for them to cut late so I can see how a fighter like. Jessica I or anybody in the female divisions can have just one little hiccup and they they're gonNa Miss Weight, but it seems like for the most part. The fighters who have competed in these recent events haven't been missing weight and they've been doing a great job. That's a great point right there, and that's why you're getting the point Aaron Brown sitter. As we head to our third question of regulation, let's talk about hey. Mas At all, because he continued to open up on social media over the weekend about his status with the UFC and his contract and Dana Way made some headlines Comparing Mazda, Delta, the Diaz brothers and Not Being surprised that Gilbert. Burns got the title fight against use. Men and Mazal didn't, but this has become quite the story you know now we're getting fighters, gray maynard and Sam Stout involved talking about contracts and matchmakers and Joseph and stuff, but to to really focus on this topic over the weekend. Mazal said some things that really stuck out one. He feels bad for Dana White and acknowledge that it's not really daynuss fault. What's going on, essentially because Dan is the promoter? He's not the one putting these contracts together and another thing. He said that caught people's attention. He called some I believe the Term White Knights of the commentary booth seems like Daniel Cormie in particular was spotlit for saying you know hey, just fight and other things to that sense, but Jose let's start with you. Mazda doesn't seem to be backing down at all. What are your thoughts on this latest chapter of the saga this past weekend it's. I'm curious and I know you guys all have heard the stories I'm curious if Tori actually tweeden. I don't know how involved. He is with his own social media's. Similar like you hear a lot of like. Oh, I don't like you. Hear a lot of fighters like I remember. Was it George so when asked about like a tweet he put outdoor saint-pierre and he said I don't even I. Don't know I. Don't even use my twitter. That's my people so. Yeah, it's. It's it's not GonNa go away. We stood this last week. Fighter pay is going to be a conversation forever. They're not making enough. I think that's a no brainer whore. Hey feels like he has put in the time effort and blood, sweat and tears over X. amount of years to make those seven figures a him calling out Daniel Cormie, which a lot of people when he he didn't name them by name, but you Kinda put two and two together, and it's Dan Cormet. Dim surprise me at all. I saw a lot of fans taking Jorges side, surprisingly a well surprising in the sense that I think a lot of fans would be like. Why are you complaining? I would love to make one hundred thousand dollars to fight. A lot of to Jorges side and we're saying well. Yeah, it's easy for Dan Communist. Say that he's making a million dollars heading into retirement and he has this cushy. Commentator job after fights for championship, so of course he's GonNa. Say Hey, fight. He also has less fights than horry Mazal. He's probably haunting Mazal has probably fought for a lot like. Or miles lowest pay I don't know this fact in his early career is probably a lot lower than the lowest amount. Daniel Cormie ever made a for his early. Because Dana cormie kind of debuted in a big way, and that strike force he won the Grand Prix and early into a strikeforce career horry Moslem like the bow dog fights in the early Baladora where he probably made a lot less Dana cormet. Made for his lowest payday, so I didn't surprise me called. Dana, Cormac surprises me. How many fans to Corey Mas it all side. Because, we've seen what people will complain. They're making forty and forty and I make forty thousand dollars a year I'd love to have your job and like yeah, but like I fly once a year. Fifty percent of that has taken away from you, so maybe like twenty thousand dollars a year guy. Fans don't WanNa hear that they wanna just they want to shut up and fight. So wasn't surprised. All called out Cormie was very surprise. Fans took inside. And this is not going to go away until horrid muzzle gets what he wants and I'm comfortable saying that he's probably not going to get what he wants and I think fight eventually just because he has to fight and make some money. Aaron. Cozy made a great point because we we don't know who runs or social media account, but Muslim doesn't strike me as a guy who is going to allow something tweeted by him or his manager without knowledge of it, so at least he knows was being tweeted out here, but. Based on what he tweeted out over the weekend, and all the things that he said Fan support all that stuff. What is your take on it? Well eight COP COA has said that he does run Jorges twitter, but that nothing that he tweets is not with the direction of or hey like they. They go over it because he doesn't like using social media, but they'll. They'll craft the tweets together and work on it and get that out now. The issue that I think the has on their hands. Right now is something we haven't. We're not not used to seeing. This is something we've accustomed to seeing. The haves and have not doesn't mentioned earlier in the show are. Are Very far apart, but this is an interesting situation where I feel like the have nots are the ones that hold back the people that have the star power from making the money because they're so willing to fight are so willing to go out and make forty thousand dollars, and the thing about it is, if you look at the boxing, pay structure, which is why all the people, the top of the sport have so many issues with the pay that they get the people that make money on the undercard. For the making a lot more than the low end boxers. Yeah, they're making so much more so a lot of the low and fighters are actually really happy, and how many of the binders in the US what percentage of them are the low end? Fighters are the ones that make the least amount of money with the ones that make twenty and twenty. It's like ninety eight percent of them. It's a gigantic chunk of them are the ones that are making the the lower amounts of money? They're happy making that amount of money. Then once you get to the top and you see what the wilders of the world are making. Tyson fury then you start getting mad because you're like. Oh, well I'm the draw here. I'm the one bringing in the money, but the thing about it is. The UFC machine can keep rolling on without them if you're MAS, but all and you're the UFC they look at hand, and they say well right now. We. Just have been with. Calvi, on I, at the headliner, and we made the same amount of money that we would make from that card if we had a code on ESPN by miles, but all who make probably the entire salary of that card combined to fight, and then you look at the pay per view structure and. Reports. They get a flat rate now for the pay per view, so that makes them a lot less incentivized to have big star power on their pay per views, and with no gate. Now you're talking even less incentive, and if you have where he's sitting on the shelf, you're lowering his star power. You're lowering his earning power, earning potential and diminishing that and you don't. You don't think they don't know that, so they've established burns as the number one contender. In the rankings, he's no number one. They can perfectly justified the fact that he's got the next shot. Even though they had been talking about WHO's Mon- taking on massive at all all this time. People forget because they see great performance by Burns. They see him beat Woodley off by rounds. And now it's like okay. This is the guy because we all forget. We have short term memories in MMA. People, Remember Hey. Hey knocked been asking divided seconds and he'd be He'd be ask, but then you look at the rankings. They'll go. Where are these guys that? He's beaten in the welterweight rankings well. None of them are right now. askins retired. Till's moved up to middleweight. The as I don't believe, is ranked as a welterweight. If that's my mistake, but he's beating. All these guys and people look at that and they'll. Laugh now, the thing about is I. Think he's a very unique personality. I think the can sell. Him Connor is one of the biggest and you can make right now, but there's just not a whole lot of incentive on the end to make any of these fights because they're going to be getting. Their flat rates are going to be getting their their fees. Until one of the partners called them and says hey, we want to see hoary Muslims in there that you don't have a whole lot of pressure to put him. In the main event, the pain that kind of money I think we're. Muzzle has earned every cent that money. The year he had last year was by far I think the best year and Israel with the best year that any fighter had in the UFC last year. But when you're trying to over negotiate and trying to overplay your hand, the you'll see will always call the bluff, and they never end up coming out. They never ended up losing the Dana why a he plays blackjack! He knows what he's doing the card table and he looks at this table in the same way, and if you look at what Dana White. Said earlier it was last week when he was trying to figure out why Gustavo Lopez was on the card. Nobody told him that he was under A. Under A COMBAT J.! He was mad that people didn't fill them in like. Even though Jorges says he feels bad for Dana Dana is very connected with every single thing that's happening at all times. He wants to be in the loop on even the most minute details because he knows that it falls on him inevitably and I think that's the smart to do it so. You don't think that he doesn't know what's going on behind closed doors right now and know I'm glad the horn is trying to say that. He feels bad for him, but. You have to imagine the Dana has a role in this as well. Let's. Let's also not forget because we can lump Henderson Hudo in that, so he's talking about his fighter, pay and everything at least Henry and John, Jones, had titles. Horrid is well. It's not like he's holding up a division by. Right the one that says it's one of one, and he doesn't have to defend, so it's not like he can be like well fine. Your champion doesn't fight. He just happens to be very hot right now. He wants to maximize his earnings right now I think John. Jones's brothers are being in the NFL and having this big union and collective bargaining, and like the revenue split being so such a discrepancy between them in the you have C.. A. Also does a lot for jumping well. Look at my brothers they they have an off season. They don't get kicked in the head and they way. Way More money than me. I also let's not forget and John or managed by the Colorado so does again doesn't surprise me that these are the ones that are asking for more money specifically, but I think makes a good point. Like why have these big names fight? They're gonNA. Make same way I swipe. Brock listeners didn't come back because he wanted a bigger pay in the AFC wasn't willing to say that so if they're not willing to pay brock Leser, one of the five biggest pave your draws in the history of the of see. They're not going to pay John John Mazal quote. deontay wilder money, yeah, and the light heavyweight division can move on anyways like. Interim Belt immoral. You know. Rules on. Think I. think a term that Aaron said kind of sticks out when it comes to this. Fifty one situation as a lot of people, saying the MAS at all while they respect what he's doing. He overplayed his hand a little too much here and I want to go back to your because last week. On the show we sort of ranked who would be the most likely and least likely to fight I between Mazal John Jones and conor McGregor in both Jose and Damon. Martin said Mazda would be most likely to get back in there and fight so. A. Do you agree with that and be? It's been reported that you see go to. On the eleventh hour to try to salvage with WHO's been you've C two fifty one even offered him what he made to fight as at USC to forty, four and other things, and he said No. So, what can the US do? What can mas at all and his team? Do at this point to salvage his relationship. Outside of just you know what here's a new deal once again. Here's some more money. I think Don Jones is probably the next one that fight out of that group because they'll call them and they'll say listen. You have to fight either or or Wa habitual. We're GONNA. We're GONNA. Move onto the division and he has a new contract. Apparently, that will pay him a good amount of money to take. Those I think those are less. I don't want say less challenging, but there's there are less consequences inviting those guys, and there isn't potentially fighting Francis again and getting your head knocked off. I. Mean We know what you're doing when you're getting into the fences and get the John? Jones has said to me. He said this scrum. I'm not going to move up to heavyweight unless I'm compensated because I've got kids I don't WanNa I. Don't want to suffered a debilitating injury and put myself at risk if I don't have to. He doesn't mind finding guys like Wachovia which I think, that's probably what his desire would be would be the Bite Yon-. Get the money that he that he has on his contract. I think he thinks it's probably an easy fight, and then you can move forward. And, then there's also the Raya. Spite which I think has some entry to it and you know I think most people believe the one that lasts fight, so if I'm if I'm John Jones. They offered me habitual. He's probably GONNA. Take the ball of his fight and fight next, so that would be my take on it i. just don't see a great opponent where you can maximize whore house little earning potential I think you need to. You need to pair him up with a lot of thought as to who he's going to face. If you want this guy to make you the most amount of money, that's why the by cut lightning in a bottle is the perfect timing. Jorges was hot. The as with was hot. You make that fight in terms of whom as it off is next. I mean throwing name, Connor I. Don I don't really see a way that you can market properly. Jose we've seen this before. We're going to see it again in here in Maine and the UFC so kind of going back to last week is MAZAFA still I on that list to come back and European, and if so, how does this happen I? Think so I think he's still the I wanNA. Come back, but I'm not saying he comes back like next month I think conor won't fight again, so fans allowed in attendance. I think John has shown that he's a little more focused on things happening in the world right now I mean. We talked about last week like. We went from hating John Jay like the world went from hating John Jones offsetting John Jones being so outspoken about the protests and the black lives matter movement on social media, and in person that he's done a one eighty and the eyes of a lot of fans even. Non anime fans have recognized that, so I think. If I, think we're. Hey, we'll come back because again. He's not holding up a division he I don't. He definitely doesn't have the career earnings of John and Connor to fall back on so if he wants to. and like Aaron, said the Lama, he sits on the shelf. The lower earning power will be. It's not like John Say John Jones vacates his title and sits out for years like you can come back and be the returning champion, the conquering hero and Connors Connor his own brand. He doesn't. He can fight for a title or non draw seven figures so I think Hor hey. holds the least chips to rely on so I still think he will come back I, but I I. It's not like it's next month. Could if he comes back I'll be. It will not won't be too like the fourth quarter of twenty twenty at the earliest. Yeah I mean. Look what we're seeing right now. We already got July eleven. Eleventh at pay per views pretty much booked with everything. August we got DC steep eight. Three or I'm sorry Jose. Steep versus DC. Three champion gets first billing. And then September overtime. It drives me crazy when people. Challenges time billing. DC's just so much easier to say I wouldn't do that fight. It is still. Kind of celebrate September. We got the and September talking beaver suggest engaged, which is looking very likely so right now. October might be the earliest we see. Connor Mazda or Jones still have Valentina in Joe Joe that th that are out there mainly. Wiley. Will wants to fight She probably fight the winner she wants by rose. marozas booked so yeah, there's a lot of other champions that are going to be back in action later, probably in the fall especially after July like. Could be freed up by the fourth quarter. which is why I say Moslem might be the first ones because you might have to fight. Yeah, I could see Valentine Joe Jobe the CO to DC. Steamer St Louis. Again. Nursing an injury right now, so yeah again. Who knows there's a lot of fight nights out there because you know, I want to see you know on the first person in line for taking Korean Zombie, so that could also headline of fight night down the road. Jinxing Johnson and I definitely jinxed it and because you jinxed it. I WANNA see that fight to errands going to get the point as we head into the final question of regulation. The wire there. No one comment blue, because this has been so close. Maybe, we'll go to the knock around. Maybe we won't. But the UFC is back again. This weekend at the apex got you have see on ESPN eleven I think yes, and then you have see. Vegas the Hashtag for those wondering. Main Event Curtis Blades for Alexander Volkov. We've got a great komeda between Josh and Shane Burgos. There's definitely a lot more buzz for these next you fight cards than there was for last weekend's card, but as it stands right now Jose when you pull up this card and look at it. How do you grade Saturday nights event on paper? It's a good question. off the top of my head high bs with the potential to be low as hoping that hopefully everyone makes way in their everyone is healthy, and so on and so forth, but there's a lot of. Important fights on this car like Teasha. Torres Brown van Buren I'm I love that I teach tore his only loss to greg who she lost. You WanNa like. Rose Wylie Marina Marina Rodriguez. Who's like is unbelievable and then grandmom bureau and one that invicta one night. Tom Think she's absolutely. I think that's I. Love that fight for women's or just fights, not women's vice just fights. Always exciting to watch Jim, Miller fight Roseville robbers has been on a tear so I'm gonNA say hi vis with potential to be in the low as just one of the better fight nights we've had. In a long time, especially in the in the Vegas and dating back to Jacksonville I think this is one of the better fight nights. We've had in a long time. Aaron like plus I mean again. It's the reasons he buys. We're coming off of A. You can only go up from last weekend's. If on paper, so we're kind of feeding into a little bit of reasons, he by is here. I mean we've seen main events. That, have been better quality than this for a fight night I. Mean I think bull conferences, blatant grapevine I think there are a lot of great bites on this card, but I don't think there's anything that really is like appointment television. I think Burgos resembles going to be amazing. That's GONNA. Be An awesome fight finally getting lyman good below muhammed site, but again there's just a smaller pool to draw from right. Right now for the UFC they don't have as much depth as they normally would for a card like this, and if you look at the bottom half of the card, compared to the bottom half of lots of other fight night cards before the pandemic like we're going to compare it to all by night cards. It's probably like a CPA Lahser like Obama and this is not. It's not a very high level. Fight night on paper again. Great fights and I I would have said the same thing about last week's card like you can't judge a book by its cover who knows I was going to be? But if we're judging, it's strictly on paper I think it's about a C. plus. And I. DON'T WANNA disrespect. The Raquel Pennington Mary Renault fight, but the fact that Lauren Murphy and rocks amount of ferry. Second pre limb and now fights on the main card. Full puzzling. Is Surprising leg. It's like I mean the kind of kind. Of. This card placement thing the the goal is to get you to watch from the first fight the last night, so people are always like. Why is this great fight? The second fight on the card left because they want you to watch the whole thing. If they put every great bite on the main card, you're GonNa Watch the main card and you're not gonNa have as much incentive to watch the early fight, but if you want to see a fight that has real implications. Implications in the women's Flyweight Division that matters to you, and it's the second fight on the card like you're GonNa say I got I got to be. There are going to be at the beginning, and they want to dry out as much of a reading as possible. So that's why people make a lot of card placement. I think unless you're gonNA argue against the main event like if you look at all the fights on his car. Should that be the main event for sure? But Listen Erin. It's summertime in the East Coast here, so asking people to watch fight cards at six o'clock eastern time and people probably want to see that fight, maybe the barbecue, and maybe they're heading home, and Oh, by the time I get home I can watch that Murphy modify, but now they can't. They have to go back and start from Ground Zero or you just moved there. It is gonNA. Be Summer solstice on. The day after so the main card it's GonNa be light outside when the main card starts at nine pm Eastern, so we you know that argument doesn't hold water for just this one particular weekend I understand where you're coming from, but I do want WanNa talk about Curtis Blades for a second, because obviously, this is a very important fight for him, but he's in such a weird. Now because. You can make the argument if you want to. He deserves the title shot in France Ghana clearly is at the top of that list for the winner of steep. DC got it right that time for blades. It's Kinda hard to match. Make for him. Because if amyot wins, they do the rematch then Gano. Everybody wants to see that, but of Daniel Cormet wins. We're GONNA have a vacant title. It can the UFC go back to in Ghana versus blades in that well for the third time. That's a super tough sell Aaron. When could we realistically see Curtis Blades fight for a title? If he wins on Saturday like best case scenario when they're talking about steep eventually retiring after that fight, so there might be a vacant title regardless, and if you're GONNA have. Have a vacant title fight you have to make isn't Ganor versus blades the third one because engand who has basically beaten everybody in the division, including blades and blades have beaten everybody else in the division if he beats Volkov. So you kind of have to make ten fight like well. What's the other option? You can come up with one? That makes any sense, yeah. Okay go ahead He's not Derek Lewis thinks it's at four or five who blades? You want him to Fi- Derek Lewis, if he beats vol con- if we're going to be a vacant title on the line. You're! Blades you're talking about vacant title, then yeah, it should be blades and Ghana but no steep it doesn't. Running back then I would agree with you then then you've got a perspective opponent, but I was talking about strictly if both of these guys were going to retire at the end of that event, and you can tell you have to do blades versus three or again new versus blaze through it'd be higher ranked Jose no disrespect. But yeah, you'd have to do the trilogy fight. Even though both were fairly lopsided in favor of France and just because there's just no other options that you can have no other options. What about John Jones? Put a title? Yeah okay well. You putting the money. You're getting a go. Fund me going what? I got like. Throw towards I. It's somebody. Put up a Gofundme me for John Jones to move up the heavyweight. I think it would be well like I. Think it would get the. Original mattress. Get John Jones to heavyweight. Fun Me. WHO A MILLION DOLLAR! Is is what we're looking for. So I mean is that sort of alluded to. Is that your take? Do you think Curtis Blades? Give me waiting a little bit longer? I mean. Obviously it's very difficult to plan things out this soon before fights even happen, but. Let's just kind of go with what we've seen in the past and. You know worst case and best case scenarios, April, pros and cons. Do true false. Ernest blades fights for a heavyweight title before April Two Thousand and twenty one. April twenty twenty one. Wow, that's really tough. It's I'm not even going to pretend that the rankings matter because they just don't. The UNC will find some reason not to give. Like if they came out and said okay like Curtis Blades. You're sitting at number. Three Franson guy you're sitting at number, two and steep, amyotrophic and Dana Car may have retired now, and there's a vacant title and Dana White came out and said you know what we're doing gone over him to instead be like. Yeah, dove, course, of course. You'RE GONNA do that for a way bigger star in the. The Sport and for if we're counting on the rankings Yay blades will one hundred percent get that, but again I'm not going to pretend that they even care about the rankings. They can't like like like like Erin said you WANNA make appointment viewing television. Overeating is way bigger star one of the biggest stars in the heavyweight division Take that for what you want in the world. It's decapitated. and. Co.. You might have been almost as devastating is the one that no. One hundred percent more Dempsey. I'm saying they're not going to I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised because debriefings don't matter and everyone erases last performances. Recently is going to be like yeah. Why not like Conor McGregor submitted by? Ground that's running back in the second time. I want to ask you something Jose. Outside of St, pay in DC who are the top three guys in the heavyweight division in your opinion, no one to the rank. And outside of steep and DC, yeah, Francis, Blades Lewis and probably. It's like jd S. Rosen streak in Volkov I'll probably in that vibe for that third spot. See I, think Volkov is probably number three. Volkov was basically beating Derek Lewis until he wasn't. But I think you would have to rank Volkov a head of like I to me the three are. Again you have blades. You've got Volkov and if you look at odds, blades a four to one favorite overall cops, so blade to basically be at least a four to one favorite Ni- opinion over. In that division, so like you those are just the two best guys outside of DC and I. Don't think it's close. I agree I, just I'm saying the US's. Based off of what I know of how the spice I don't think they give France I. Don't think they make blades, Francis raid with Baber over and again last night and it was. Like thirty seconds, so I don't if rankings matter Blazin gone one hundred percent, but the rankings dome, so I don't think the UFC gives blades. The third shot after being knocked out in by in thirty seconds in China. And that just shows how under the radar? Alexander Volkov is flying. I? It just service that yet. He had the headline spotting jd in Moscow and it happened super early in the morning that and he, of course that fight fell by Greg Hardy and the climate event. That did itself a disservice. Because now people I, I had to look who's last was I still was his last fight Derek Lewis. It's like look it up. This reminds me a lot of corey. Anderson versus John Behove. It's and a lot of ways because I feel like like blades has all the momentum right now, but you have a really tough guy in bulk off in the same thing happened here, Corey Anderson's coming up. The Johnny Walker Win Youngbleaux Vich was there and people start core. He was going to take him down and beat them up and get in there and fight John Jones, but which had other plans so? Who? Jose's GonNa get the points and mostly because I just WANNA. See this this final round. Because this has been so good. Our. Let's also not forget Rosen streak. Jd S had a big fight. Coming up rose drako's. Jd S and thirty seconds I had. They try and convince blades. Take that fight. which is ridiculous that'd be. Coming heavyweights it all my life. Such a bizarre flight I love chaos. I love it so much, and that's why we're going to this. Knock around so one question for the whole kit and caboodle, and my favorite part of the show is taking the heat off of me. So this is for the prestigious bt. L. Championship of the Universe Jose. You are the two-time defending champion. You have the option here. You have chosen to kick off the last two weeks. Weeks and allow your opponent to answer the question I. Would you like to exercise an option here or would you like to be rabbit? This thing Allah eight mile and maybe take the microphone right Outta errands hands well first of all in eight mile. Be Rabid didn't choose to go first Papa Doc said, let this guy go for so of course on say the champion defers okay. I'M GONNA have to score a touchdown. Mild Trivia and get it wrong. Jesus, Christ. Regardless iron before you win. Here's a question. We took to twitter for these, and there are some fascinating questions out there. We'd we through one out there, but in the end we're GONNA. Go in this direction, and the category is something that's almost impossible to do. Which is why this is final question. We've alluded to this pretty much every week on the show so far, and that is trying to get into the mind of Dana White's so the category is Dot dot dot except for Dana. White Aaron here is the question. These events at the apex. We've seen some great fights. We've seen some incredible performances and finishes, and thus creating some pretty fun events, and one of the reasons that people believe has led to the success of these cards is the smaller cage in the apex as you know, everybody seems to be all in on the smaller cage and want to see more of it. Dot Dot dot, except for Dana, white he says it's an illusion. He doesn't love it as much as the rest of us why Aaron. Why do you think that is? I can answer this question definitively the reason why he doesn't like the smaller cage as a whole is because from. From a production standpoint. It doesn't look good on TV. If you have a big arena and a small cage, he thinks it doesn't look right, and then, when you have a small arena in a big cage or small venue and the apex. He thinks valid bad, too. So the reason why he wants to see a smaller cage at the apex is because it's a small venue, the reason why we see the smaller cage in smaller locales like pulsar or something along those lines is because the smaller than you and that's just what looks good on TV. That's the way Dana White things. That's why we're not gonNA have fight island fights on the beach. Inside a production facility it's going to be a bigger production facility which will lead to a bigger cage and I think that's probably what they're gonNA. End Up doing, but for Dana White. It's simply a matter of what looks better on television and he is decided after watching. Teen fights over the years that this is the best course of action for how you WanNa present the fighting then he did raise a good point. He said that if you look at forty nine, those were all great fights. They were in a big cage. A isn't an illusion. Not There's been research done read. COON fight Nommik says that there's a fifteen to twenty percent higher finishing rate in the small cage I used to love the WEC. I'm a big proponent of the small cage. I think it leads to. More finishes and more exciting finishes. However I kind of agree coming from a television background with Dana White and the fact that if you have a small, Cajun, a big venue or a big. And you, it just doesn't look good on television, and this is who they're trying to cater the product towards as a television audience, so while more people wanna see the small cage, the reason why except for Dana. White Dot is because he knows this business inside and out. He knows production he's. He doesn't usually get it wrong. In terms of how things look on television, and how to make things done nice and put good window dressing on it. That's why Dana Whitefield this way whether or not the right answer I'm not gonNA. Give a comment on that because I think. Most people think that the smaller cage won't be more exciting. I think probably knows that in his heart, but he he prioritizes television over that particular thing. Jose I know like I think we're all in agreement here that we're not expecting the UFC to take the smaller cage on the road with them everywhere they go like I. Don't think we. We assume that at all, but he has no selling this completely. WHY DOES HE HAVE TO BE PROVERBIAL PARTY? Pooper? When math has it otherwise? Because Dana why? Historically loves going against what people want or don't want like. As soon as someone says. We have to cancel these cards. Because of the pandemic, a pandemic is happening in the world. He's like no fights and Tachi Palace and then like Disney's the one that pulls the plug. Why is Greg Hardy fighting in the CO main event? Take him out Dana's like why is Greg Hardy fight on? At Rachel Rachel Ocean Beach. That's ridiculous. Why do you know what? It is like Dana White. Will do everything against the grain. The UFC. Like it, not that this would happen. This is just. At, the finish like we want the big Cage Dana was what kind of small cage I'm just like. That doesn't surprise me because they don't. Waste is going to go against the grain. I think he's using the big cage. I think another part of it is. There's a lot more room for sponsorships on their a lot more money you can get. I've spoken with. You have CPR when I was at the Salt Lake Card and I was like. Why don't you have the small cage for this? And they said we always use the big. If we're in an MBA arena, which was again Salt Lake City a banana. It was in the when they had it in foxwoods for the Rothwell over in car. They had the small cage. Because that's a smaller venue like Aaron said just looks better. They had it in the COSMO for the page sage card and the Frankie Mendez, I think even suited. Northcott was kind of caught off guard. My House model card was. When was a cody fister? Fought on that card so I. Think Aaron said is accurate. I would also add that. You could fit more sponsorships on their. Fighters can't have sponsors on their own songs. By the course they can canvass the octagon responses they want. And Be Dana just. Never wants to give people what they want. He wants to don't think someone says hey, Dan, you should probably wear a mask. There's like Nah no master me. I'm just going to not wear a mask. Even though the government's make telling me I. Probably Should Know Dana White doesn't give people what they want. He wants to be March to the beat of his own drum, not to side note. He said he'd beats to the beat of his own drum when he was time a Muslim like that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And more sponsorships, and of course looks better allegations that. Makes sense that makes sense. That's true daylight. You made a mistake. You made a mistake by taking. There's when they took my answer and just put like a necklace on. At least trying to be contrary. I made it prettier. Yeah exactly. Before you had to the truck to make his file decision any final words Jose because I just want to hear you guys keep going back and forth they words on just life in general, or may just on this battle. On the battle of Aaron I. Mean I've enjoyed this I'm one of those guys warlike. Enter these fights thinking of going to win every time I genuinely wants A. Was it a battle of wits. You can't Whoa. I can't remember his name from Princess Bride. He's about a wits i. like going up against people that one hundred percent know what he's talking about, and that is Erin so even if I do come up show. At least I lost to someone that isn't talking on his ass. Aaron. Would you like to say before we throw it to the truck for the final? See I'm like Charles. Jordan like I think about Jose. Right you know like I know that I need to come into this with the level of fear, knowing how how versatile and smart Jose's and I need to respect him to a degree where I can't sleep at night, because my my brain's rack top of a challenge, this is GonNa be. I'm very fearful. Until I'm actually in there with him and I see that we are all of equal calibre, and that's when I know that I belong so that that's that's how I entered. This thing has been a rough couple nights knowing that this was going to happen today Tears, but I feel I lived up to the challenge. To Charles Day in World War craft to for I. Don't know if you saw this, but thirty minutes after he lost his already tweeting me about world of warcraft. Putting doing man, go get stitched up visit. Was the princess bride character I remember. I could do this all day long, but alas, it is decision time and I'm glad I'm out of this. We head to the truck. Own might e truck lend us your ears and your impeccable judgments? After five rounds of debate, we go to you who walking away with the strap. The. Big Cage Sucks Princess, bride, roles, and still Josie Young's. A. Couple medications mustache everything. Doesn't real cronyism here. It was closed. It was I will say. Batch of the Karen was I knew Aaron would be? Like I went into this number. I could very easily lose this, so I wasn't coming into this big house. Crush on whatsoever, so I'm going against the. Children's movies and then maybe Casey. We'll get media. have against Princess Bride. Gives me. Stars are we. Losing we're losing. Losing connections right now and okay there we go. You know what happens here. Thirty seconds. Talk about whatever you WanNa talk about good bad indifferent in the sport of mixed martial arts. Of course everyone is expected me to talk about because people have been tweeting Emmy since FIFA man, Andre really gained a ton of fans that don't even follow mixed martial when I asked him just kind of an offshoot question because he's on the eastside once and we talked about complex you about an hour after we went off air, just as like you know, get his mind off of the close fight. He had asked about conflicts and he gave. Gave a great answer, so I don't even care. People don't care about this. This is about the comic book. Fans out there and my God my twitter. Blow up, like Andrei Fan for Life I. don't even like Fight Fan so Andre Feeli- you said you were going to lose a thousand followers I. think it's the exact opposite. I think you have an untapped market there with US Combo fans and even Charles Jordain. Someone noticed the had the. Horrid logo warcraft on his leg, and people are like I'm a fan of his for life, so the nerds were out in full force and I think they were. Embrace it embrace ner. Erin I do want to give you some time because this is as close to a draw as possible I. I had no idea how this is going to go. Normally, I have an idea. This one I had no clue where the truck was gonna go, but I want to. You know award us some time as well to to say anything you want to say before we wrap this bad boy up for like. Like that last answer where Jose piggybacked on my answer, I'll piggyback on his ice both Andre Feeling. We talked about the Midwest IMOs in for like fifteen minutes settled I I love that guy. He's awesome and I also love Charles Jordan. WHO's a you know candidate proud, even though the he lost by I mean what grace at the end when they were calling decisions, the judge said. Twenty nine twenty eight Giordani like. That But that's not the kind of guy he is, and that's why we love Charles Jordan up here in candidates, only twenty four years old huge future ahead of him. His brother Louis is he's going to be in the UFC, probably by the end of the year, so keep an eye on visual Dan Brothers Hey may and don't fight harder by smarter. Winner learned. Did you hear anything Aaron since? You're, not TJ. Laramie said he's got some big news coming up. Do you have any? Thoughts on that. Have you seen these tweets I'm thinking maybe contender. Series of you heard anything. I hear that the contender series is around the corner and I would love to see TJ and their. Luigi Dan and there I'd love to see Malcolm Gordon and I'd love to see Jasmine Jesse Chavez in there. Are Some great upcoming Canadians. Jasmine Jasmine visas is no joke I. Don't know how you pronounce that. One of us is probably right the vicious Lithuanian. My Dad wasn't just give me the benefit of the Delta Yeah. I'm giving it to you I. Just said the truck took the win away from you so I'm going. Give you know what sorry I'm looking. I'm looking at the scorecards. I didn't see the Midwestern emo reference, so it turns out. It might have been a draw map the calculated. The numbers add up I'm doing some half points here so Right now, unofficially Jose the winner though bums. It's very close. I can't the mail in ballots. Stats at the end of the place people talk. Do so well, this is this is what the show's all about. This is a an an incredible battle between Jose. Thank you both for coming on and sharing your wisdom with the world that wraps up another edition of between the links here on May fighting dot. com makes you subscribe wherever you can lots of stuff coming up this week at the aside. Aside coming up tomorrow, what the heck on! Thursday we got the aside again on Friday preview show all that good stuff, and then we have all your fighting coverage on Saturday so for Jose Aaron the truck i. m Mike bigshots Esser Lynn behind the scenes with the graphics. We'll see you next week as we go back once again between the links. 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On To the Next One: Episode 19 | Matches To Make After UFC 255

"You're listening to the box media on yes network Well hello there. Everybody and welcome to a brand new dish of on to the next one. May fighting's matchmaking. Podcasts we try as best as we can to make sense in regards to the what's next following. Ufc to fifty five on saturday night. We are two title fights. Both david's forget. Oh and valentina shevchenko when into the usa is champions. They both left. The apex is champions. And we'll talk future for them and other notable names from the ufc second to last pay per view of the year. I m being joined as always by the co host. The co matchmaker. The best friend in the prince. Positively mr alex kelly. Hello sir greetings and salutations on this thanksgiving week. Yes mike my best friend. Happy bake american thanksgiving up here in canada. We have already done thanksgiving. It was fabulous. We did it We do it in october for anyone. Who does what we do in the same month as halloween. We do it in october. As as god intended But i think it's very cute that you guys space your holidays apart and get the most out of them. So yes how. Happy thanksgiving to you guys down there. Mike i say this episode gonna start off in a way that we've never really had to start off any episode before. Normally we can have a spirited discussion about the main event. But i think i think as you you'll probably explain why We don't really do that. this time. Around we yes because we can go ahead and get rid of two of the names from our list right off the bat and you mentioned this is sort of unprecedented on especially on this show because the man who ended the night with the first round submission over alex perez davis figueredo. His next title defense is ready to go he in brandon marino who also got a first round finish in the highly anticipated brandon brandon. Fight babe agreed to a title fight on december twelve less than three weeks away and they will compete as of now. In the co main event of fifty-six there are reports out there that perhaps algebra sterling versus pewter. Yon might be rescheduled. So i don't know we don't know anything about that at least as a recording right now but who knows. It seemed a little strange aka. And it's pretty wild that this virus put together on three weeks notice. You didn't even think about. Maybe there's something wrong with with sterling but it was kind of a strange move to determine both these guys around on three weeks notice. You know what i mean. Yeah it's funny. John sterling because. Let's not forget that that it took how long for dana white to commit to automate sterling yawn matchup like you know the night that sterling had that huge win. He couldn't even say yeah he's he's next. We'll have it in the work soon. He gave the standard. You know you give the standard answer was guys you know. We have our matchmaking meeting on tuesday that we usually decide these things so of course you know you guys can ask him match up so. I'm not going to confirm anything tonight. But on saturday this saturday he did not give that answer. He's just this is the first time he's ever said yes. That's next it's in the works and as you said i think now we know why they they they they may need a new title fight for that december. Twelve show so we don't really need to speculate. We think you. And i both would have said brandon marino's next anyway so hopefully nothing falls through. It's not if it's definitely not officials. its verb verbally. Agreed is about as far as i mean logically. I don't think they signed contracts overnight But still crossed the t's and dot the i's and dana white even said he's a little bit worried about Figueredo to make weights One hundred five on the dot two times in such a short period of time. It is very tough on the body and he's had show before but Again fingers crossed. It should happen and this is the fight. We all want. Whether it's a separate twelve somewhere else down the road. Yes i agree. I'm very excited for that fight. It's going to be really good brand marino. Feel for the man in a way because he's worked so hard to get to this title fight. He thought he got the big fat hose. Job from the matchmakers by brand rival. Did what he had to do. And he's finally get his opportunity to become the first mexican like mexican-born in mexican. You know bread raised living native to become world champion. This week. switched around there. You said you said you got rain on wherever you go your friend. You know what i mean. Let's look inside baseball here. We are recording on the day. After you'll see thirty five and for anyone who's keeping up with our site. We were doing the post fight. Show up until past four in the morning eastern time. so we're going to be a little. We might be a little scrambled. You guys understand brandon a deserving brandon getting shot correct and and there's so many times or like writing articles and putting in youtube headlines i roy vowel was marino. Rano became right now. And i had to switch them around so it is what it is really except for the fight I'm actually hoping have mr merino back. On what the heck this week to talk about all of it. Some sort of personal rivalry between these two guys. I don't know nothing about so fingers crossed. But we begin things in a weird way with the man who came up short and his quest to become the first contender series. Alum to capture. You have gold. Alex perez submitted in just under two minutes via nasty guillotine choke tough night at the office for peres who i know we. It was a very small sample size seven seconds but you know in the first minute and a half looked pretty darn good in the fight but you know figuring which is that good but obviously he will learn and grow from that one undoubtedly but would you like to see next for mr alex perez aka after his first title opportunity like i normally. I don't mind going. I but i do have a lot of options. I don't wanna potentially step on your feet unless you also have a lot of options that you've thrown out there. I don't. I don't know how clear you are in this one. I do have a clear choice but there. There was some other options. Want to run over. So maybe maybe go. I i don't i don't overlap here. Yeah i mean. There's there's been a resurgence in this division clearly Like you said. There's i mean there's a lot a lot of options across the top ten for a guy like alex perez do peres versus brand royal. I mean they've trained together. They like each other Sure wouldn't be their first options. It is an option is not my option my pick is the rematch ben. Evita's peres really wants that. Fight there the last. Two guys to fight davis figueredo. There's a story. There peres wants redemption from their. I fight a little over two years ago. And ben evita's has it has done some media and says listen you know people say i might have a foot out the door. I still think i can be champion. So he wants to prove you still. One of the league is one of the very best at one twenty five. I think with the storylines involved in trying to get this division moving continuing to move forward. I think this is the fight to make. Let's run it back between those two guys. What do you think yeah. I looked at that one. Maybe maybe i'm just looking at those consecutive losses to figure too hard and But yeah really who who is but there is no benefit to me is still essentially the number one negative number one number two ranked flyweight so there is no fighting for him except for figueredo right. So that's why it's not gonna happen again anytime soon. Unfortunately so I like i like that one. As you mentioned the obvious answer would be at brandon. Roy vow that rebel shoulder injuries. Nothing serious. we're hoping it's not a terribly sure. We'll have an update on that Within the next few days I wanna boring. Answers was kind of like almost like a tune up fight for peres to just get back. Get back in the win column written terrain Who had an ankle injury. He's looks like cape in august. Hopefully he'll be ready to fight early next year and me is also talent but i should say so impressed with just walk over. Maybe maybe entering takes a spot But that's if But for me. Obviously i think presby pretty heavily favored there and then i was kind of dancing around it. I was wondering maybe maybe ask our ask rob a chance to take present spot but the fight that i want which i won't happen but point that i want is a lot of crap. Laugh that social media but peres forty garbrandt. Put your money. where your mouth. Is you think that this guy didn't deserve your spot. That i come take his spot. I there's no chance that if the offer that fight that if you say no. But i think that you'll see when you even bother offering it. They want him and figueredo soon as possible But for me he has to earn it. And i think president himself another big fight. I don't got submitted quickly. It was it was i. If you can call those two minutes competitive it was. I thought it was competitive and And i think he'd do very well. Against cody garbrandt as well Very likely even beat him. If we're being honest so Cody you're talk. Let's walk the walk Zero chance. But that's this is what i would want to happen. Not what i think. I agree Yeah i i in a in a perfect world cody. Garbrandt gets one fight at twenty five anyways before you fights with the belt just to make sure you can make the weight and be healthy and doing so and fighting after cutting down to one twenty five. I think god much easier. Time than tj dillashaw for being honest just because this frame he is a little bit smaller about thirty five. But i'd like to see that. I'd like to see him. Put his money where his mouth is for fighting for the belts. But let's move ahead to valentina. Shevchenko one of the most dominant fighters on the planet defends her title for the four-time unanimous decision. Victory over Jennifer maya this one is pretty easy ak i'll just jump in and start this party. Dana white talked about it. Lauren murphy said when i last spoke with her that this was the likely scenario anyways. Even though she's in the conversation shivshankar versus jessica androgynous. the pick. I'd like to see murphy versus judge. Winter gets the shot but nobody in the afc. Corporate offices cares what i have to say in that situation so for going with who. We think. It's actually going to be in the natural reading. Seems like chango doesn't want to sit on the sidelines for too long for check. The tapes purposes aka. It's on drudge. that's the pick. Is that yours as well Yeah absolutely i i I in a world. I think i've said before. Like let both get both get a shot at esotique. Oh but again i mean. Someone's going to have to wait a while. I don't if either fighter wants to wait the probably whoever doesn't get it will end up being a fighting between We'll discuss later in the show again. The women's flyweight there was pretty active on on. Sorry night so Yeah entourage when you again. I was all super pumped. I was caught up in the moment. I was like yes. Give her the title shot tomorrow. I'm all for. It and mike has not lowered that much. I still think she's one of the biggest threats ching-kuo certainly in the eyes of the fans. She's one of the fighters one of the few fighters in the roster who i think people really believe. could be a threat. She'd she'd still be. Underdog pretty considerate underdog if they matched up but her finishing power is. Just so intriguing. A former. you'll champion already in another way class. It's it's almost super light of sorts. So android drives destroys just gone for jennifer maya gritty in defeat. She did much better than pretty much. Everybody thought she would and again to me. this is. this is very easy aka. What do you think for for jennifer. Maya following her first opportunity at at a title. Did you say you have an obvious choice. I it's obvious to me all it. It's pretty and it's your maybe not obvious it's easy to me. This is an easy pick for me. I always feel when you say that. I feel pressure i always say i'm a four but i went with may. Maybe i don't know if it's easy it's certainly boring. I thought you just match up with cavallo. I guess they're both in the same card. Yeah okay it would be great to see kallio For one thing get back to her grappling. I know her striking's improved a lot and she certainly had her moments in all her where she's chosen to stand up a lot. But i i you know. I'm not saying it was easy to take king in down but i think a lot of people would've liked to see her. Maybe forced the action. A little bit more Easier said than done when you're fighting an opponent that's so much bigger and longer than you but I think my. I would welcome that. I mean we saw she certainly willing to grapple with shevchenko she. Maybe didn't get the better of all those exchanges. But she's a good fighter who has definitely can can Can show off her jets in the ground. So yeah let's let's keep these to move in. Let's keep them in the contenders circle and let's just happened sorted out. Yeah i mean. I wish there was more drama here but there just isn't what i mean. There's there's obviously a few other selections that that we could do. But i just feel like this is this is just too easy and sometimes you just go with easy one. You know you take the gimme instead of putting three footer. Any any interest in my of versus the andrea lee jillian roberson winner december twelfth. No now okay well. I'm glad brought that. I'll explain. i'll explain why A little bit later on but yes. So let's move to the welterweight division. Tim means the wily vets answers the door of opportunity replaces robbie lawler against one. Mike perry they had a hell of a fight. These guys perry obviously had the big wait. Miss had a great first round but in the end. Tim means gets a done. Picks up the unanimous decision. Look great over those final ten minutes. What would you like to see next for. Mr means ak after that victory to really good choice. Say here to him. He's a maverick four because he took the fun. Short notice and beaten opponent awaits. This puts him in the rankings. He barely moved in mine It was a bit of an odd one. I'm i. I'm going to go the fight. The guy he replaced route. And just say i'm gonna lobby for robbie lobby for ravi mike. That's okay. i got got brandon. Brandon got nealon. Neil let's lobby for ravi for up for ten means i. I would just love to see that. Obviously that fight stylize and and it'd be cool to me. It's got a shot at at lawler spoke lawler. I think i had to gain to this booking. I think was still fourteen to fifteen team. I don't think you i know. He's he's a slump. But i believe he's still hold on striking and i'd like to see means get a shot at that he's just he's such a good competitive for so long And a guy who again you feel like he give anyone talk dina run for their money. So robbie lawler hopefully Whatever whatever health issues there are not a big deal and we can see a messed up soon. So that was my first pick and then the other one was A guy who people are always matching up with anytime awhile. Three has a big win. And i have been pretty good showing restraint with just during his name out there but i think means awesome flight. I'm more in favor of the law match up. But i think he's been a little more picky with his message. These look i think you send them that contract. He's all in. I'm all in on it before you throughout this this new mantra that should be on a t shirt that everybody should buy lobby. Robbie i'm lobbying for in a big way. I mean he's earned the right to face robbie lawler after a lawyer. That's a lot of fun in. Unless like i know watch robbie lawler like i don't know you know it's a young man's game at certain points like he's missed overmach. I would favor to means you know. Probably like a two to one favorite at least fight. But it's it's not a fight. That mike i look at if they book mike. I don't. I don't know if i want to see this. I like the fact that two veterans getting after it and i think means deserves that name and I think that's the direction they go. So maybe in february. That's robbi wants to come back. So i again. I didn't have to think too much about this. One just seems like the the right piece of business again fans want. It's almost one of those fights fans would would be surprised that it wasn't Maybe it wasn't booked in the past But yeah it's really don't over. You want to reed veterans to create strikers. Put them in there as a yes. I think everybody should go on twitter and hashtag lobby for robbie. Oh i got to get that going going this week. Yeah i'm i'm i'm palm got me you got me fired up with that one ak so let's talk about caitlyn's uk game. We mentioned that. This is a big night for the flyweight. She comes back quickly after getting finished by just gone garage around a month or so earlier. Sweeps the scorecards against cynthia calvillo thwarted her title hopes for the time. Being and now. I'm excited ak this could be her thing. Okay randy orton back in the day in the. Wwe this legend killer. He's taken out piper and ricky steamboat. And all these and all these different legends. All the way up to the undertaker's the legend keller and they built miss such and again. Let's be honest very talented fighter. She's not getting a title shot anytime soon. As long as balancing chant goes the champion. So now you position blonde fighter as the contender killer. The dream dasher so to speak she is coming in here to dash the hopes and dreams of all up and coming contenders to me. Kagan versus lauren murphy as the fight to make it has to be like everybody else is seemingly booked up. We've talked about most of the matchups already on this program and murphy seems to need another win. It looks like to get that title fight and this seems like a good option for both ladies. They have before kagan got the win at one thirty five in her. Ufc debut on short notice but that was over four years ago. People still bring that fight but that was a long time ago. Both these are totally different fighters. Especially lauren murphy. She's a totally different fire than she was in. Two thousand sixteen. I would like to see that one again aka. I just think i again. I want to see how that would play out for years later and be. There's just doesn't seem to be a lot of other options. That play was one hundred and thirty five pounds so yeah we have different way class for years ago. It's it's it's that's those are more than Grounds for a rematch. I think i say. But i hate it. I hate it. I hate it because i just think lorne where i should be getting. A title shot share But you're right. I it's it's it's is in as she puts the matchmakers and a really tough position because she really is a top three fighter at one hundred twenty five pounds. She's proven that and people really do have to others. Should have to go through her to get that shot against. Excuse me. pardon me against valentina ching-kuo so this i hope you'll really enjoying that So yeah i hate it and yet it's unlike ninety eight percent sure that is. The metro is going to happen. My firstly. i see her face. She'd have to wait a bit. I kind of like this is more for the sake of a fresh matchup kagan versus the roxanne modify. Vivian winner. But that's not until the thirtieth so we're talking about w two month wait to see how that shakes out. Then at least probably another two months so i'm shoving game for four months. She she really didn't look like she was hurt. That badly in the third caviar. He wants to fight again. In december the offer came up or even in january She's by. I'd say if the lauren murphy match it doesn't happen. She stepped in as a replacement. For one of these flyweight matchups that had been booked from facebook from here to to like february. So she's steps in for one of those but other than that almost certain it's it's the murphy murphy rematch. Yeah yeah she either. I mean she even said to joe rogan after that super awkward interview after the win that you know she wants to fight again real quick so and murphy wanted to get back into december. She wanted to fight calvia in december. So i don't know december. Maybe it is you know. maybe it is. Maybe they throw that on on december twelfth and and go from there but it just one twenty-five especially in the women's division both of both divisions for us super fascinating probably as fascinating as they have ever been but let's head to the light heavyweight division. Paul craig kicked off the main card second round. Finish over mauricio shogun. The rivalry aka is officially over. Craig gets the wind gets the stoppage and this is probably the more interesting one to pick of the entire card. If we're being honest like where do we go next to the paul crane. Everything seems so blatantly. Obvious this one not so much. Which which one of these plethora of options works best for you pull. Quake poll kick pull. Craig's thickest scottish accent. I've ever heard That's that's how i could maintain for. That's it's the he's got a voice to he's got basie voice plus thick scottish accent. It's something else Master deciphering accent. So i can. I can understand him. But i've heard a lot of jokes about him transplant This wasn't hard for me at all because we had laid the groundwork on our show i had said After johnny walker's last win. I wanted him to face the winner of this fight. Either as a passing of the torch fight with show gun or a avenging. The brazilian legend fight was paul. Craig so Certainly the way. That paul craig beat him. I'm sure a lot of brazil were not happy. He forced the legendary show on tap out strikes which again. There's no shame in it. But i understand. Why people kind of distressing sites. So paul craig johnnie walker for me. That's the easy pick up. See that no drama here. That is the pick paul. Craig kinda made it easier to dispose. Fight scrum out. Global shera shot for the stars not pulling anything michelle circuit off now a little lower on the sky but still not getting that fight because we certainly fighting ryan span and then he called the johnny walker and listen. That fight is so much fun. Like policy would be a really interesting test for walker and vice versa and the personalities involved in that fight just puts a smile on my face aka like i. Those two guys should get their own media day in in lieu of the different day. Give them a two hour stretch and give them their own thing and let them and let them have. Add it. but craig's earned a little bit of a step up. Whatever you know we kinda talk about yamba mahovic and like the surge he's had. I'm not comparing paul. Craig dionne mehovic poker kind of a rough start to his. Ufc run lost a bunch of fights but now he's he seemed to found himself. He's coming into his own at the right time. And i want to see that chaos. That would be craig versus johnny walker. So sign me up for that. One ak lobby for johnny lobby for johnny as well. Yeah and i remember. Craig said some On sunday the effect of an injury like he was going to retire. I think if you had lost there was one of those fights you know when he had that kind of third round comebacks. I wanna say it was the up real quick. I wanna say it the Ankle yes because he had lost to yes he had lost on one and two and the so far had lost two straight. And we'll see thank alive. And then he got this mission with one second left and he said he was ashen consider retiring not playing again. That was two years well over two and a half years ago now so He really did kind of turn things around. There is an element of and and the other cool thing is that he's really proven. He's not just that kind. That kind of joe fluky all he. He's a last-second magic i. Even though he does have finishes he really looks like a solid. All around fighter now has gotten a lot more striking his grappling stills bread-and-butter still awesome but Yeah there's a fight with alec walker and or maybe another contender in the future. Honestly he's he can sneak in there. You can see that top ten. Maybe that top by we'll see really high apopka griner. Yeah i mean. Let's let's see what he's got. Let's see what he's got. Unbeaten his last four fights three of those finishes. We'll see what happens. But this would be brandon. Marino's time but since brand marino is already booked. We've already discussed this. Let us get to the viral. Ko king himself walking. Buckley another devastating nocco win this time over the beverly hills. Ninja jordan. Right wasn't as crazy as the impetus agadez nocco but equally effective and ak like. I feel like this is the theme. And i feel like when i type out the titles and the headlines for the podcast network. It's just gonna be like onto the next one. This was too easy because this is just too easy. The rivalry that began and had the gasoline thrown on it by the fine folks. Here may fighting. It is james krause and there is no other option. They book any other fight. It's just bad and everyone should be up in arms. Let's knock this bad boy out in two thousand twenty one. Let these guys get after it. There's other fun fight. Certainly walking buckley's got that style but this is the fire. There's no other option here. There are other options. I will lead them to the readers. This is the number one option far and away. And if you've see is not already working on this. They should've been working on this before this buckley. Five frankly With your son he was gonna win at because otherwise it's promotional malpractice and mike. Your your your pot. Stirring and s disturbing has finally paid off the afc should. Oh you whatever they show you some of the revenue from this matchup. Because you definitely helped to make this happen. You spoke to both men. You've gotten all the facts of this feud there's no doubt they do not like each other and it has to be settled in the cage. Not not just for the sake of our entertainment for the sake of to martial artists who. I still feel like confined piece. I still feel like someday someday can be friends but they will have to have to settle it in the cage. I know there's no talking this one out. There's no letting this one. Peter out this is this is a festering boil viewed that needs to be that needs to be lanced lanston in the octagon and And i can't wait but i would. I would hope that they have a great fight and it's all hugs and handshakes after But but that's definitely not going to happen until until they scrapped. So yeah one. Seventy by the way i it. Buckley's doesn't make one seventy. This really really should happen to one seventy. I don't wanna see how mentally yeah and cross said he'd be happy to go up to eighty five vitamin to and maybe just maybe in this crazy world and now he's got a million things going on. Maybe he does go up to eighty five for one time fight. I don't they would do the two five if they wanted to get him in there. I don't care what the way classes is. Get them in there. Still want any five. That's fine it doesn't matter. Just get him in there and let them let them settle it and then like you said 'cause you're going on this whole thing aka was have them be friends like have the ba- friendly. Yeah maybe maybe trained together at some point doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon if you if you listen to either of those interviews but but that's the fight to make as hi i'm neil patel co founder and editor in chief of the verge and host of decoder a new podcast from the verge and the vox media podcast network about big ideas and other problems i'll be interviewing executives policymakers academics and some other assorted troublemakers about what it takes to build the businesses of the future over a decade covering tack. And i am more convinced than ever that every business is a tech business with some familiar problems to solve in some big new opportunities to seize. you'll hear from leaders like mark cuban on how technology impacts competition the biggest challenge. We have and i say this all the time we have companies that are have not and founders like sal khan of khan academy on how. The pandemic has accelerated trends. We saw our usage go through the roof. As soon as the schools closed it was about two hundred fifty to three hundred percent of normal. We'll talk about how they're navigating an ever changing landscape. What keeps them up at night and what it all means for our shared future. We're him tough questions. We're going to break some news. And we're going to have some fun so look for decoder with neil patel in apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app we go from two easy now to think a little bit more ak. This is why. I love the so much and why listeners do as well. It's time for the wild card round. We match make for a fighter that we haven't mentioned yet or mash paid for yet. And we do so right now so you have see two fifty five in the books aka. What is your wildcard. Pick coming out of the november pay per view extravaganza. Yeah did have a little bit trouble figuring out how to had a match up. So some of the fighters either veteran or the opposite. They're newcomers and newcomers. I usually don't even bother speculating. It's just it's too difficult to predict and use the. I just want to see them face other newcomers so so there's not a lot of intrigue there so i went with a somewhat of a veteran but someone who's kind of fresh face to the you've again because he came back to the I really liked nicholas. Dhabi's fight with download rigas performance by him to to stop one of the hottest fighters at twenty twenty. You know read. Regas was three and looking to go forward. And and w beat them in a really good back and forth striking battle so i just want to see him. Keep having fun fights. And i'm not talking about crazy up the rankings or anything like that i think. Ideally it's either. The leasing liang dwight grant winner. They're fighting a couple of weeks december twelfth or brian arena. I brought massive brian. Burbenay frigging perfect. I don't think they fought for another dimension. It i i feel like it's check this but i believe that'd be a fresh matchup. Bam bam is always fun you know. that's that's that's not news to anyone. yes i know. He just had surgery to address. Disarmed internal bleeding daily. I'm not downplaying. That stitches are still fresh. Appearance is i'm gonna social media that statistic just barely came sorry staples just barely came on the stitches but whatever he's tough he's ready i i'm sure he'll be fine in two months three months so Get back back in there. Bam bam healthier. Then we miss it. We miss brian barberini competing. And i'd love seeing throwdown with dolby. Yeah that'd be a fun fight. I'm going with anti new shevchenko aka favorite favorite fighter. Yes i feel like she has earned it because she impressed the hell out of me. And for those who've been listening to this program since the beginning i have not been overly kind to anti-ship janko and this is this is through no fault of her own. I never questioned her fighting abilities. I just. I questioned the ufc when it came to her. She just got pushed way too quickly. She got names that she shouldn't have gotten so early on in her. Ufc career butts against the ufc. Knows better than i do. Because she seems to have paid dues and she looked phenomenal against ariadne lipsky. But i'm not to throw her to the wolves just yet. I just don't wanna see that but there is a fight. That was just added to your fc to fifty-six you mentioned it a little a little earlier. And i think it's more than suitable to give anthony ship. Chanko the winner of that fight. So i wanna see jank versus the winner of andrew lee vs jillian robertson on december twelve. Th i like both of those options for her. It's a step up but it's the right kind of step up like we're not. We're not putting on a trampoline to the top of the ladder. She's taking a stepper to up there. So it's a little bit of a slow burn. I think that's the fight to make. I know jillian robertson really wants to fight andrew legal fight anybody so it makes all the sense in the world that matters a lot. Yeah no no no qualms that women's flight looks. It's been a really busy division. they do. They've been doing a great job of keeping it moving. And i think she'll chant goes right in there with that that makes a fighters who I don't see she only. Has you know whatever ten eleven pro fights but obviously a lot of combat sports experience. And i think a little bit older than people No she's she is. She is the older sister of vanishing valentina. Searching people keep that in mind so a lot of combat sports on her. So she's in that mix of fighters Right in the middle of the one thousand five pound division who are a lot of compelling matchups and someone in that pack you feel like if they can run can break away and maybe sneak into a shot sometime late twenty twenty one twenty twenty two so obviously with antonina. There's other complications they're hundred. I've found metal but A andrea lee or robertson. A if they get a win over ethnishity shinko. It'd be a nice way for angelina. Get back on track for one and also for one of them to you know keep moving back up in the rankings. Do we have do. We have a check. The i mean. I know interest the segment. I might have like a little. We come up with some sort of like theme song or some things chick. Yes i apologize. I did not prepare. Check the tapes this week. Just -ssume that any match ups you guys heard about this week. We talked about prior. There was actually a lot of We had a lot of matchups to cover this week. So that's my excuse. Actually just actually just kind of slipped my mind you didn't. It's a new segment. People were work shopping. Eight okay and sometimes you work things but yes we will. I will have check with us this week but we had a lot of good. We had a lot of good readers stuff. Yes let's hear to make up for it to make up for my incompetence We had a lot of good reader stuff readers. The readers are getting so good. They're really really just bring it Either with matchups that we haven't thought of or just kind of like funny kind kind of funny things so you're wild. Pick anthony cinco. I don't like this gesture. This kind of a weird one. But i guess if murphy ends up getting the title shot for some reason let let's say let's say just entourage me the money. There's a money issue or for some reason. Just gandara is doesn't get it at kevin. Han on twitter. Said he wants to see jessica place teen initiative chink. Oh my gosh okay. All right all right. you know. we're not. We're not off to a great start. But i i'm glad someone threw it out there. So thank you a couple of the other ones. I solicited on our Finding social media twitter account where we're buckling marino so those are pointless now because i can. Luckily we all want across marino. Essentially books fingers crossed. I think we had a reader. I don't know if this was directly to you. Yes us at casual. Eve's eve hardcore casual on twitter if he's willing to fight again so soon man is retired luke. Rock hold verse. paul. Craig i think paul craig would like that because it's a name sure way it's just it's it's a bit weird for because again you're giving me a guy you're giving them like a top twenty guy. Rocco's want that to right. He i think he thinks himself as a top ten light heavyweight even though he it hasn't won a fighting that you'd be down for that sure. I mean yeah i don't know i. I saw that last night. I was like i thought about it if they did it. And i'm sure both guys would be would be fine with it. I just wouldn't be my first. It was like luke rocco coming back like when he when he was telling. Espn that. i'm gonna give this thing and other go like there's only one fight that made sense and the chris wideman rematch like i. I just don't see any other pfeiffer cold. You know what i mean like this rematch central. I still want to see it At magic mart regular contributor. I kind of like just press which was take a peres to get the winner of the upcoming cape askar. Ask her fight and then Alex press gets the loser of that fight. I have no problem with those matchup. Just 'cause be would be frigging sick so I don't know if i've really thought about it from You know oh where does it affect their rankings. Contender ship standpoint. But i mean as far as good fights. You can't go wrong with. I liked the suggestion. Although i think the winner of that fight is going to fight. Ask her ask her off the winner of Of wh-which by cape pantoja will fight askar. Cape pantoja winner will fight. Ask her oscar off. Oh that's that's what i think is going to happen. That'll be like next number one contender. Fight okay why does this gestion okay. The register thinks that cape. Ann askerov are fighting. I don't know but I think they might have gotten mixed up there. Yeah i read it as give peres either. The winner of that fight or give him askerov. Okay yeah yeah. Yeah we gotta have ask robbing the mix. That's for sure that guy that guy's really there's another future man Figueredo has some great great matchup the head of a man. I don't wanna see him. Go up bantamweight anytime soon. Yeah needed you know what's crazy. It's a lotta good title fight that oh the original plan was to have askar versus cape on the card last night. Right right right. It's just didn't happen. Yeah potent so sick now. Pantoja on december nineteenth on that absolutely ridiculous cards. So it's going to be kind of buried on the prelims but it's not one we can complain about because the that whole card is absolutely insane. Flyweights rule we saw last night when we see it. All the matches. Coming out mass. Men's and women's flyweight. There's a lot going on there really good division We had the usual suspects of twitter. Crews ingestion of read some of the best ones from iran ski. He likes and i just want those guys name out there because we didn't mention them. Kyle dacas who had a win his first win on the prelims. Tom breeze i think a little too soon. May for dacas but reason that situation where i do feel that the of see my use him as kind of a mid range steppingstone. I'm not sure how high they are breen. So so that's not. I don't think that's terrible. Matchup i i. We've met before. I think with other more experienced guys though i feel like we've matched up like every week the every time there's a middle high it comes up. It comes up harry lipsky. He says if not krause for bucket so again they'll just about everyone wants krause but if some reason it doesn't end up going that way. He likes buckley versus the call. Roberson adult shah lung mbulawa winner. They fight in a couple of weeks. December twelve. I actually kinda like that because I still think crosses almost to experience for him. I again number one option by far but if they had but they continue to bring along buckley slowly. I would have no problem with that. Let me let me just put it that way i. It's a fun fight like someone's going night they there's no doubt about it. Someone's going night in either of those options. Krause does have the experience. But i think it says a lot about cross because krause's in a position right now where he could be like. You know what. I ain't fighting anybody outside of the top fifteen right now. What does he want. Seven fights in a row one seventy something like he lost the giles. Fight that fight that a lot of people including i believe dana white james cross one so the guys quietly running off these winds and the fact that he wants to to step back and fight a guy like buckley and his wide open to it. And that's the thing about crusted. I like so much is that he's not like i have a dream of becoming a world champion. He's just like i'm going to coach. I'm gonna coach and like ever fight opens up on a certain day. Take it deal. I'm not here to fight three to four times a year here to just take opportunities when they're given so but yeah buckley versus either those. Don't either of those guys that's just fun. That's the fun it's automatic fifty s. You just reminded me of crowds. Giles have not done a robbery or view on the future robert. Because we're not for one. I think bazaar judge's scorecard. I believe cross would have won that decision. There's one there was one inexcusable. Scorecard there Redwood rebel had suggested which. I hadn't even thought of which. I kinda love at one of these would it. But i don't see it doesn't doesn't think putting together allen show ban versus anthony pettis. That is interesting. that is interesting. I know pettus is in that kind of only want big names and and is a veteran. But maybe he doesn't have this big name guys. Pet is so. That's why it's probably unlikely. But i would love to see them. Try put together. One thing that that that i said to myself last night is i. I dislike allen jobim. I dislike him and not because of he's not a great human being is to enhance a man handsome. The fact is a lot of people talked about it on twitter. That they're shocked that allen show ban and mauricio shogun who were born on the same day or something like that. The thing that irks me about alan japan is that he was getting hit very hard and it was getting marked up. Pretty badly by jared good enough bite both every mark his face. He looked to younger to me like he got younger. Like went from like a from thirty eight thirty nine till like twenty two just because he got punched in the. I like that is crazy. He was benjamin button. Yes he lets me by the time. If i was over he looked like yeah. He looked like you'd have to card him at the local pub. It's crazy it's frustrating. He's just so he's such a handsome man. You know yeah he. He tweeted out a picture of his face from the hospital. After obviously other than the swelling around one of his is he really did look like like you said he actually did look like the bruise the restructuring of his face. Maybe this is the new hollywood. He's a model you know he's down with the hollywood secrets right. Hollywood and and and new york secrets so Maybe maybe that's just get you. You have other fighters kind of restructure your face for you And then the your bone structure you you want to keep that bone structure of course but just a little touch apple touch up on the bones. They'll salt and then the heels up its stronger and somehow more handsome than ever. So i agree. It's frustrating that fight. Though brad liked that one rebel also suggested brandon rogov versus. You see for me too soon. Jokingly he said a joke and then come on he must now no he was he was. I forgot. The ufc hates waves. And i'm like yeah. And just thinking. I i would also love to see that fight and unfortunately it will. It probably will never happen. Let me let me ask you this. What about what about joe. Band versus de rod. Whoever makes Whoever makes him less handsome and makes us feel bad about ourselves. I'm all for it. And i think our biggest absolutely do i wish no harm upon very fun fighter and and and and greater personality for the Mcgahey he added to a trio of gestures. I feel like we mentioned this before. I don't know why hasn't been made Antonina and sipping moslo. I think it'd be fun match up He'll start call. Dacas one actually like this when to college dacas mark on the show. I just did that. So i could shock my name and someone whose name kim quite a bit despite being the first bite of the car would probably 'cause they wanna fight of the night award sasha and arcus mickey he's adjusted for him Matt symbols burger. Which is you know i got. I'm not saying it's a it's gonna shake card or anything but it's a good logical matchup for him so people messing for platinum card. Which i'm fine with. I wanna say semel burgers booked. It could be mine you you you might be right something something. That's pretty good to kyle. Kyle dacas the fight. Is eric anders. That's the fight. Hundred percent the the difference in uc experience doesn't deteriorate. Oh no because. I think i think he's. He'd be heavily favored against eric. Anders probably wins that fight and does so impressively. I think anders would put dacas ins in a position where he would get to showcase his skills a little more like saturday. Night dose installed to this kind of an awkward guy shorter. I i feel like anders would bring a little more at dhaka's like dot brandon allen on like a week's notice like off not off the couch but a guy that came the regional into the ufc and a guy that was just outside the top fifteen and they beat the brakes off each other like it was a great fight. Anders was supposed to fight. Antonio ohio is not re- book to fight doron win. On december nineteenth so anders is a right now is is is looking for a dance partner. I think that's the way to go. Let's give a little bit of a bum reluctance there is. I think he's really great talent. But i want to see him. He was thrown to the wolves the brennan allen fight and anders on that level. But i just feel like he's he's so much more experienced. You're you're right. If that fight was books this is a good chance to would be the favorite look a slight favorite like a one twenty minus twenty or something like that you know. So it's it's not crazy. I don't know i. I want to see him be brought But you're you're you're certainly not wrong. instagram dmz. Got a couple of my buddies jacob. S j steiner Jacob throat paul craig and kelly to You know because again. The first one ended a last second hail mary. They're kind of close in the rankings. At this point. I don. I let the rationale behind it. I think they're heading different directions right now. It could happen somewhere down the road. But i do understand the rationale behind it and i thought suggestion worth mentioning and he also likes nicholas. Dalby versus the unbeaten shove kat rahkmonov. Ooh ooh that's a good one. Yeah i was kinda. It's one i looked at again. In my rankings. They're very close together I i really struggled with booking undefeated guys or prospects wanna know you know coming off their. You'll see i struggle with it. I admit it. I i usually want to match them up against no one else with more than two or three fights but he's blue chip talent someone they really want to quickly daulby as a name Someone who's had won championships in cage warriors and it would be it would be a competitive fight so so i'm not against i like i like that idea. I do like the idea. It's crazy because we should be talking about rachmat of a lot more. Yes but yeah and this is a way to do that. So i think dhabi would w.'ll get in his face and scrabble. I mean heavily rachmaninoff in that fight but yeah. I like that idea. I like that idea. jay stutter instagram. I liked he said. Is there another thought of this. Alex press kaikoura. France teicher france. I good fighter good. But i don't think i think he's too far back honestly. Wow okay yeah no. That's probably why again. I'm just trying wonder why we think about it. That's probably the same way. What my my was He wants to see shogun. Continue fighting. i don't think we've mentioned shogun too much of our wildcard. I think a lot of us would be okay if he retired. I continued fighting with the right matchmaking. And maybe jay center is the answer here. Ed herman before like like it didn't happen wasn't not book they got candid. I just feel like it's happened. Like i seen these two throwing slut punches at each other in the in the you know the fourth minute of round three seven made it. I i am god i am. I'm awkwardly giddy about that idea at. Herman should have called him out at her desk. Because that's the kind of college he should have made. So i'd love to be a shoguns last night that you guys talk to his agent because it's kind of inappropriate fight. I i don't know who listen to this and just just barking right now. But it's like the only fight it's like the only fight that makes sense for either guy. Yeah if showing continued fighting. Which i do i do think he will. He did not leave. The gloves in the cage didn't really give a strong indication. He was retiring. He didn't talk hasn't been talking about retirement. All i think other than interviews like a couple of years back where he said like this. How many flights aspect outlet so. I'm not sure where he hasn't that count right now is this. Is that the same individual who suggested cheyenne bays last week. It is it is we start our j. steiner's he's he said. He said he doesn't have a top himself. He actually prefaces his message to me. I don't know if i talk last week. But he's doing really good. Jason jim jays jays running up like either of us take a vacation day. Might have to invite john. Jay's jas j. steiner jason excuse me now no worse and email of course mark. Good gordon. Who one of them was paul. Craig jimmy crew. Which i feel like i thought about but i want their and five have. Did they already crude crude some criticism in third round camera. You're right you're right. I guess he wants a rematch. As it was a two years ago. I don't think so a different trajectory. Jimmy kurtz on a different trajectory. Kurds like the prospect of watch. Oh five right now and the other one. He's just poliakow and alex moreno. I should match also just platinum cough. And mickey gall others say this guy's as much. I'm glad that black hasn't mentioned so much. you know. Shut us to my brother from another mother. Shutouts shutouts hong kong He's probably more more hong kong than i am. Frankly relax relax. I would like to see. he beat another debutante. Let's i it's cool. It's just coming in symbols burger. Morongo mickey gault. Whatever you know me. i'm. I'm very cautious. Another one another. Gimme another contender series guy. Give them another debut in person. Maybe give them a someone who's own wanted the. Oc coming off a loss very impressed. He beat a guy who who was absurdly favorite against him. I'm not sure why the odds are so high in coasties favor but Yeah he looked good. But let's man that's pump the brakes the match. I did not expect to be the breakout star of this card. But he probably was in the in the top three fight of the night and big upset and apparently a logical about metric ideas for i already. This one's too easy listens to easy. Sasha platinum kopf versus candidate zone. Kristen connolly that's the fight inc. yeah yes yes. i agree. See that if i had done awhile carpet for blab. That's definitely more in the direction. I would have gone so readers. Cool suggestions compelling pump. The brakes a little bit yet. I'm chris and carleen. I agree. I think a little bit more. His speed a little bit more his experience level until we know what we have with with politehnica but a very very nice debut yes absolutely good comeback. And then you do. louis. Cozy versus Jarred gooden boom nice. Good at this. You're welcome on the show. You show as any whatever's should do a show on message thinking i yeah. This is very very good any anybody else that is that. That's our usual suspects. I thank you everyone. Of course it keeps sending messages Before i think. I was reading people's complete list of guys. Sorry if i missed any of the metric to really dying. But i think i picked out that some of the good ones you guys picked and Yeah excellent work readers another great week for the readers. Yes absolutely this and keep them keep them commoner. I just because the show is released doesn't mean we want you to stop with the suggestions. Hit us up on the twitter with those suggestions so the world can see it. He is alexander kelly. I met mike underscore. Jr join us next week. As we discussed the fallout of ufc. Vegas fifteen and i just. I literally just thought of this ak because we have four more events in two thousand twenty and then we all then we have what one two three four weeks off after that. What are we gonna do get some well deserved rest. 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Ep. 3,025: UFC 247 recap

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Ep. 3,025: UFC 247 recap

"Title Roll Baby on May Junkie Radio with with gorgeous Georgia. And this is what we do in why we do it baby. We're covering MMA from all all over the world this is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and Casino in the fight capital of the world. Las Vegas Nevada. The lights are on at the Mike. Sir Hot it's tied to get your. Ma Fixed Junkies take it away. Big John Gorgeous George goes. Are you ready Junkie on the bike capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay racing sports book you listen to another episode of Radio show the only show that matters. I'm your hose gorgeous George and with a devious Dashti goes or he's Co host goes we gotta do it. Early man can't wait till Monday morning we got to produce the Sunday night episode to recap UC to forty seven. There's definitely a lot to talk about so I'm ready to go there. Sure is we're going to basically hover around the big names. The big fights because all of them produced great results results Records were broken and title. Defenses are getting racked up. Of course there was some beautiful finishes as well and again little tidbits here and there that will touch on at the very end but I think it'll all center around The main card for sure so here. We go folks books or an early edition of enemy junkie. Radio does a gonNA give a shout out to our. UK audience are overseas audience. Where it's already on Monday? And they're chomping at the bit. So here we go in two thousand eight. A former dean football star pulled off a robbery so daring in so strange that it went viral worldwide. It was a perfect crime story. There's just one problem. It wasn't the real story of what happened. The sneak is a new serialized. True crime podcast from four the wind and USA USA Today Sports. You can subscribe now on Apple podcasts or get it anywhere you get podcast on Tuesday January fourteenth all right. Let's start at the top get into a man's John. Jones versus Dominic is is John. Jones defeated Dominic Reyes via a unanimous decision of forty eight forty seven forty eight forty seven and forty nine forty six now now when I heard forty eight forty seven I thought yeah kind of what I had except I had. It's however you and I were doing a I. Alternate commentary broadcast on Sports Caster and we left the opening of it could be to one going into the championship rounds. Which John Jones I think we can all agree took and therefore it could also be to to going into the fifth round not decided fight? You know we're John. Jones was drawing indebted to John Three rounds to go Hell think we even mentioned ten eight could give John Jones the draw thereby he walks away with the bell. You know we. We're that kind of covering all of our bases but forty nine forty six Jones. That's ridiculous forty eight forty seven. John I can take it but I did scored forty eight forty seven for raise. You know I don't know forty. I Dunno giving John Jones. Four rounds is absolutely ridiculous. I think it's the wrong call. It's giving them all the benefit to the doubt though right it is a little bit But really like the only rounds that you can really clearly say belong to someone or around and one belongs at Dominic Reyes. Anybody that says it's John. Jones round is an idiot right at that point and I think four and five are the same way but going towards John Jones MHM So really two and three I had him for Dominic Reyes but I'm sure there are certain people that look at things a certain way. Hey that could score for John Jones. Right that's what I'm saying. You'd have to give them the benefit of the doubt because in those two rounds if you use these significant strike statistics raise one both of them. Brown three was closer than round two but he did win that category and basically goes they kick boxed for about twenty three of the twenty five minutes when they didn't they were I mean they were upright on their standing horse I should say so. They were kickboxing and when they weren't they were up against the cage now. John Jones discourse take downs. But he didn't really do much with them so again you'd be paying him the benefit of the doubt that whatever take down down he had whatever little ground and pound or anything that he did nullify the advantage that Don Dominic Reyes had strike out striking in those first two round and so that's why I feel like man four. Come on. That's a lot you know. I think four is a stretch but I don't think it's absolutely ludicrous. I thought I was come. Fight night when you start looking at all your peers and scorecards that they're turning in. I mean there was a lot of back and forth. You see the term robbery get thrown around and I don't think it it was a robbery. Maybe a stick up but But I that's what makes the sport fun. I mean it sucks because I I really do think Dominic Reyes won that fight. Yeah so let's go over the judges scorecards for one when you look at. MA DECISIONS DOT com. I see about fifteen scores from riders riders that cover MMA at major outlets scoring it. Forty eight forty seven radius and then I see see what looks to be about seven so I I think I said Fifteen fifteen on the ray aside about and seven for sure on the Jones side again forty forty seven. No one turned in a forty nine forty six so two to one. The scores came in on race but the only ones that matter are are the judges I think if they all you know what man. It's the weirdest thing I don't know what to say. I think if they all just gave forty eight forty seven. Yep You know. Maybe there'd be a slight level down of an uproar but still you know there's still a lot of support for raise. Here's how the judges scored it however and then we're going to get into one of the names here that just really goes. I mean I this guy man he the enemy community. Why does never want to see hear or C.? This person's name attached to mixed martial arts again so he here were the judges scorecards in round. One christly Marco's for solace and Joe Sali's gay raise ten nine all good right. We all agree with that. Yeah in round two Christly. You gave raise ten nine. But markle's were solace and Joselito saw ten nine for Jones. So it's one one going into round three now. We had said something along the lines. It could be one one but I think what we felt was more than likely one judge might have seen that but a morning to twitter and what most people we were watching it looked more like raise but still that that's just the way it was unfolding. That's the side that you have to present. That's our job so we have to do is tell the listener. Even though we feel like that's Dominic Reyes round. It doesn't mean that the fighter should fight that way because it was a close round around the number one criteria by the way is striking Effective striking and that to me seems something something that raise was producing sure. There was a lot of John Jones aggression by I think that was more later in the fight. I mean he would still come forward. You know but that that doesn't outweigh the effective striking. I think everyone's being clear on the criteria there. That's why I'm still a little confused. He had a pretty good striking advantage in rounds. One two to win three three. I remember was being twenty three. Nineteen I thought. Wow that's pretty close. I mean you know it could be that the judges were just more impressed by the nineteen blows John delivered versus the twenty three the dominic delivered but regardless it's close for a basketball game and you and you said that was the final score or whatever you would say I was a close game right so now we get into round three. I'm Chris Lee ten nine for Jones. markle's were solace flips. That he goes ten nine for raise. Joe Sali's he's ten nine for Jones so that was yet another round. Where if you tell me? What do you think happened? What do you think the judges did Tom? Tom I think all three gave it to raise or maybe to Gave with the raise and there might be a Jones. Call out there because of the intangibles you know John said Hey I got a couple of take. Downs raise countered. Hey I got right back up. Jones said Hey I pressed forward you know but like I say I think the most glaring status significant strikes and at that point it seems like res has them but five minutes stuff's happening. The judges probably have ninety percent of a field of vision. No matter where you're placed there could be a panel. What do they call it? Yeah panel panel. There's no corners in the octagon. But yet aref an angle that you just mean may not catch two or three shots or whatever you might not see the significance of them but regardless we go into the third round like this. Chris Lee has Two rounds the one raise Russell is has to two rounds to one raise and Sali's has it to around the one Jones so it all kind on a evened out a little bit hex up no one had it three nothing raise and we were feeling that that could definitely be what was happening But to the talk to the judges were scoring at for is at that point so we get into the champions around and it's easy here. It's ten nine ten nine ten nine on all three judges scorecards cards round four and round five ten nine ten nine ten nine. So you walk away with Chris. Lee giving the final three rounds of John Jones Marcos were solace. Let's gave John Jones to four and five Joselito gave him two through five. He only gave one to raise. And that's why you had a unanimous score. You're not a split and And that's how you got to forty eight forty seven which I think most people can stomach. It's that forty nine forty six year like like dude. Let's you and I sit down and watch we watch this fight. That's what I would tell if I was the head of the Texas Commission I'd say. Hey Look we're still gonNA pay you but we're going to go in another room here in Utah you're family. You're not coming home for another forty five minutes because we're going to watch this fight. You gotTa tell me how this how you came to the score. Yeah I mean there. There is a whole process. I know that they do certain things like that. But I think you gotta sit everybody out a room I don't know that you necessarily sit down and watch the fight at that moment because so much has happened that we've been in that situation George where we've had the call fights and and even after doing our show sometimes back when it was two hours your brain it just kind of Friday. It's like the only gonNA describe it being like is like when you take a test in college or high school. Your brain needs a little bit of time off so I would say go back in a room. Let me just kind of press. Everybody like what did you see why score this is what you do and then and then I think the next day when you get together you guys watch it again. Maybe you go over some of the scorecards overturned in by the media. Hey these people are saying this is why are we so far off with with what's going on here and that's the one thing I wouldn't want to judge to do is go home and him watch a two three times. Make a few phone calls. See what the media saying and then start to slant a little bit of what. That's why you talk that way organically. Well Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You just WanNa talk you WanNa Watch the next day right. You WanNa rewind all in one night and see. I think it's too much I I think that people's brings or Friday just while they wanna do it with the League's Russell Wilson Lee. Hey enjoy Houston your paycheck. I only want to know what the guy that had forty-nine forty-six how'd you come up with that you know what I mean 'cause I got imagine the commission although Rogan said otherwise I think the first they said one of the judges wasn't watching Fight somebody on their phone Bloomberg said Oh. That's the commission official. Then somebody said no no that might be the judge and they never really clarified now. That's at goes and I were doing a the broadcast on sportscasters. I can't see we heard one hundred percent of what Rogan crews an antic were saying but Still the fact that they brought it up. You know anyway my point was. I'm sure the commission officials seeing it. There were loud Al Booze. The President of the U of C was very very vocal. Right away you see how twitter is blowing up. I feel like that guy needs to you. Know just explain himself look anyway in. Nothing's going to change It's done and John Jones get by by the skin of his teeth. I saw it a comparison to joy saint-pierre and Johny Hendricks and it looked pretty apropos. But it seems like John has actually been able to pull this off. A few times comes with a Alexander Gustafsen. Although I agreed with the decision and the Aga Santos which again was another close one. And what did we say on fight. We John Jones is good. We didn't say oh. His Jab always kicks always wrestling. We actually I think you said it. He's just good at winning. Fights is good at figuring out he's good at deemed deep and just walking walking out of there with this belt and what it is goes that guy fights to the bitter end and I think you know plus think about it. He's six four four imposing that long reach I think even when he misses it looks nice. you know what I mean. I just think there's something out there. Where if even though you're ray is and you got your footwork and you notice raise with throw some stuff and then duck under and move and John is just stocking and I gotta believe some some? Some wraps are judges are just thinking. They're not thinking about okay. Twenty three twenty nine okay. Twenty Six hundred sixteen twenty seven twenty. You know they might be making little pen marks or something something. But they're not seeing that they're just watching the body of the fight and I think some of them may get lulled into John and his pressure his. I don't know I don't know but but this guy figures out a way to win when it comes to John I mean I think the thing with him is I really feel like you only have one shot with with him He's very good at making adjustments especially going into a rematch Even though the Gust of some fight took place you know years after it just looked nowhere near the first fight and I don't feel like he took raise lightly. I just feel like it's a combination of fighters are getting better her and John's getting a little older and declining down and as the others are going up. He's still better. Yeah yeah I I honestly think I think it's a little bit of a lack of aggression on his part you could tell at the start of round four a different John showed up and I don't know if that's him worried about gas out or what. His deal is why he can pull the trigger in the in the early rounds. But I I don't know that if they did a rematch right away. I would still feel confident. I think John Jones is that type of guy that figures things out and that was kind of Raise is a shot right but he did get his wrestling showdown He did yeah. And that's another thing that we noted I think on the sports caster broadcasts. We made we alluded to something Dan towns brought up. And that's the a lot of the wrestlers. Get away from it. And Dominic raises a wrestler as well but the get away with it as they age and raises is a couple of years two or three years younger than John Jones but I mean he was able to not only stop a few take downs. From happening he was able to get up nullify any advancements from from Jones when he I remember he got one hook on in along the cage Dom did a great job. I think my only concern was was he gonNA gas out and I didn't see him. Huffing and puffing Alastair over in style I did see him slowing down and again and here's another thing John's real good at goes when you punch them you rarely we see his skinny legs. Like you know wobble you know what I mean. I mean all we're doing is kind of looking at his face. It seems like his hands drop and his in his back me a little bit but usually he gets his hands up and he's able to recover but you don't see any chicken leg action you know what I mean. Nothing like that like like Kevin Lee style or anything And I honestly believe that. That's why that's why judges still feel compelled to think that wasn't as impactful full of strike because the man is still right there and he's still walking forward whereas John who doesn't have really want punch power when he's hitting you you know you're blocking it but he looks so oh great in his techniques that I think you're just You know you're you might be scoring more in your head when you're a judge just thinking he's he's doing more he may he may have thrown a few less strikes but his was was more impactful. The only thing I can compare it to goes as you can have like Aaron Aaron Rodgers or drew brees playing another quarterback and then the other quarterback has nicer stats. But because they're drew brees Aaron Rodgers and they throw pretty spirals and they have have so much respect. You still feel like they outplayed them even though you might be able to say look at the QB rating or or whatever you know what I mean. There's just an art of the some of these great fighters Yemen. I feel it's unfortunate because Dominic Reyes. You can't say in the last couple of rounds. He did just a little bit more tired. I wouldn't say completely gasped but he slowed down could have been more. Should he have crawled at the finish line. See that's the thing is I feel like dishonored four and five were like Oh my God. How could you score for anyone? Anyone Bud John Jones. Remember like with a minute left or two minutes left we'd go hey Jones's leading he'll get the two nine if the round ends here but needs a flurry and he could steal. I think he just had had enough gas to make it to the end but the reason he was like that was because he poured so much into the first three now. If the sport were affair you would feel like you would feel comfortable in this situation. You would feel you won those first three. That's what he thought in his head and that's what a lot of people thought here. You just can't do that because the this isn't the first time we've ever had this conversation after a card that judge scores. Maybe just didn't go the right way. So you you. It's very easy to say that he shoulda gave more. You should have done that. Don't leave it in the hands of the judges. It's so tough man to go out there and do those type of things put that type of effort in there. I think he got to a certain point where he knew. I'm just I'm not as quick as I was. I'm not reacting as fast if I'm if I if I'm too aggressive does do can knock doc me out and I already have a lead. He played it a little safe but I thought rightfully so in that situation. Well Man I disagree I I don't think he can just assume assume he was up three nothing because they weren't all like round one round. WanNa think you can go go. I got that right. I mean I think everyone in the article. Yeah dog you're up to nine. The other ones are starting to close starting to close a little bit more. I don't think you can assume going into four and five I'm up I just need to survive. I man I I I just thought that was a little bit more. Maybe do again. John Jones has one kick power one like if that Shin lands on the dome. Yeah you can go out. But it's striking is never proved to to me like Unless it's a flurry of punches and you get caught in that in that mass in that swarm then yet curtains but otherwise raise still had footwork. He was still moving. He didn't even attempt attempt to dictate. Down goes the uncle. Santos got him down though. You've done just writing timing. If he would have uh-huh John got him down right if he didn't have the strength because John clearly add more endurance and he put raise down. We'd all be going. What are you doing? You pick dummy. Why did you just give him that situation? Asian policy couldn't take you down. You just invited him almost like mecer. Tehran rowzee where you go. Why did you do that? I think he's probably timing when you do that at the same. Sometimes when you do that you also put it in the other guy's head he can't just come forward to Antioch off because he may get taken down and if Dominic would have done it even for even if he just got takedown in stole around because of the take down I I don't know I mean just to diversify your attack a little bit. You know. You're asking him to do something that we I mean when these guys is of taken down John Jones but they haven't kept him down right. I haven't won round on top of them. John goes down for a second but he pops back up so I mean it seems like a giant. We're joined title to. I mean he even said it. You know the striking was pretty even but those take downs. They'll take our garbage. I mean he barely got him. But if that's what what someone like. Joe Salinas was convinced makes a difference who knows. That's the problem is Joseph so at the end of the day these fighters should be able to trust in those judges. Yes and here's why but here's why because when you will. I'm going to go back to Ulan Martinez when they fought and Sali's turned in thirty twenty seven for you'll that's crazy crazy goes. That was crazy. Joe Rogan even noted that in the broadcast all right. But let's just say you said George. I didn't even watch that fight. It was earlier or whatever he I also thought James Krause didn't win around one James Krause. That was crazy. Had Turban Giles's back for four the first five minutes how he didn't win round one he did on the other judges scorecards but how he didn't win. That one is beyond me and so at that point are going to make a couple points for one. Texas Commissioner should've said say what you know I mean after the you'll fight. I may have told them. We're going to sit you out for the rest of the night but or at worst all right. I'm GONNA give you one more chance with that scores. Pretty glaring hiring you know what I mean. So then when he turns into Krause I think again the Texas Commission I I can't have you judge the main event. I'm going to do that though. I think once you assign them that. That's just it right or is that what have we got. What if he got green? Something someone cancel if there's that kind of situation but at that point why would you because these were announced to the referees are who the judges are going to be like well. But I mean if you're if you're not in the middle in the middle of the game or sorry in the middle and you have other one sitting sitting there and have the ability to run. I think you've got to do that. I could've sworn about a year ago. Somebody somebody got something something like that happened in the AFC in Camber if Dana White had rattener till the commission or complained or something Linden I coulda sworn someone got pulled and it was about a year ago and I thought it was even here in Las Vegas I wouldn't want to use to influence it like that. But I'm I'm telling you man. This guy was just not competent and he proved to times along the way before he even got to the main event. It was so bad But you see at that point. You'd be you'd be asking a fighter to fight recklessly because of that and I don't think that you can do that. I mean you trained your your whole training camp a certain way. I don't know that on the fly. You could just go eight-man the judges are crazy tonight. Just go out there and get a knockout like I duNno. I heard Rogan and crews. Say it I heard noted oddsmaker. Joey Odessa say that when he's betting he'll pay attention early on to see what kind of scores are coming in. And he may just just the way he bet. I heard that gets sworn I heard crews and Rogan also saying That del observe how these judges are judging and you know make a note of it at least and so what I'm doing if I'm in raises corner. I would've told him one of the judges that has been turning in horrible horrible. Scores is out there for your fight. Let's overwhelmingly win these rounds But why wouldn't you do that already. Ready like you should have that mentality right. You should already Melissa. Who's the guy say? When Roy when Reyes was interviewed at the end of the fight he he was so composed? I've seen other fighters like exhausted. I feel like if he had a gas tank. You know. I think most of us have pretty current cars his and tells you how many miles you have left before you have to refill. If he was a car I feel like he'd have five hundred miles in. When you feel Dominic Reyes up? He can go five hundred miles. I feel like his his gas tank would say about one hundred still Jones actually was breathing a little bit hard. He was breathing a little bit harder. He could barely even whimper and say his grandmother's name or whatever ever I felt like he put it all out there and I felt like raise between that move. I mean how do you have that kind of footwork and move around. If you're exhausted. He wasn't exhausted he was he was definitely tired. He definitely wasn't as fresh as round one or two by still think he had a little bit more and then when he confronted by saying I thought I won the first three rounds. Well you made a big mistake AAC POW and those people in the corner should have been yelling. Something like peyton manning all Maha Omaha one minute left give it. Give me everything you got. This is a chance at the world title title. If you don't win don't forget Tiago Santos has been promised a rematch. After he comes back and that was last July getting healthy. Presume don't forget I'm not saying in this. But this is something you've rehearsed already. Blow the whole itchy and Corey Anderson fight this week in in New Mexico. If I'm not mistaken both of those guys are streaking as well And then you've got the Johnny Walker Alexander Rackets of the world who are going to obviously dust themselves off and come back after. They're after their stoppages. The recent stoppages and so a setback back. I mean it took Gusto and five years. You know nothing's promised I I don't know but what what leads you to believe that. He didn't give his all just because lives on the floor. Mom running I saw him running and not engaging He was nowhere near as active as he wasn't the first round you would agree. We got tired. You mean you would degrees to win that fight tired. He was more degree that he wants to win. The fight right does. He's not doing it to be funny right if he's doing. It is for reasons. First three rounds. You can't okay. You can tell you that. Earning dill fight judges are turning and Kirby cars but judges are turning for one. Don't leave it in the judges hands to on this particular tonight. Judges are being questioned loud and clear throughout the prelims and three one of them is actually the the one. That's being chastised is the worst is actually one of the ones in your corner in my mind. I'm I'm laying it all out there manage scraping me off not a video game and you can't just push a button and go i. Why are we go? I felt like you don't get in a fight that you're probably winning. I trying to win the team but look now you're dominic Reyes. You're not world world champion Jon Jones. That sucks but I mean. I don't know that it's so easy to say. Hey man you should have push yourself a little bit more. I mean fucking once the wind. It's not automatic. That if he does go forward can get aggressive. He is getting knocked out. Tell me the last time John Jones knock somebody out it was DC with the Shin Right. Yeah but his hands which he was throwing mostly hands towards the end like I say all this should have already been talked about planned throughout the fight. I I don't know in a perfect world. I get what you're saying that the world is not perfect. I I see a the guy that wanted to win really bad I think he had it in him to four and five. He actually fought to win the fight to win those rounds. I think he gave what he had. Maybe I mean everybody has a little bit more but think about the risks that you do you go out there and you do that man. Then you're dead dig deep. I thought I saw. I've seen John Jones that king digging deep Man I I don't know I thought Henry who out Doug Dimitrius you know in his fight when he had a chance look he fought great. I thought it was a great fight. Dominic Reyes had a great Showing of himself is just about my. I'm crushed for the guy because it was right there for the for the taking and heating get part of it have to do with some some of these scores. I don't agree with some of these scores But I think part of it had to do because I think Jones just gave a little. You know what I compare it to goes in a sprint. John John Jones leaned at the tape and Dominic Reyes just kind of ran it through you know like well. Two of US qualify for the Olympics. As long as I'm first or second I feel like John Jones is like I ain't taking no chance that out of the corner my I didn't see third guy out. Lean me you know. So I'M GONNA run through that tape I'm GONNA lean in. It just seems like that figures out a way and goes another thing man I he He now has eleven title defences to match. Dmitri's Chris Johnson not in a row but he does have eleven title defenses Over two runs and he has the most appearances in title fights. So what does that mean. It means he obviously had to fight. For an interim title one's he had to fight the first time when he beat Shogun. That's not a title defense with him in a title. He has the record now all to himself. I mean it's impressive I have a little bit of an issue with that. And it's just that he had a little bit of a break as well. Dmitri's Johnson was nonstop. The after another one after another after another John Jones went away for a while he lose another tamp four while it just feels different to me the second the second record that we're talking about most appearances in a title fight. Yeah Yeah you're right because you could also be title fight because he lost the title which he kind of did not by getting defeated but by I Getting suspended and things like that but either way the guys in the record books And who fights next. I don't know but I got a feeling early. Next week's fight might have something to do with it. Although Ray is definitely will get a rematch at some point. And I think Santos as well we'll get a rematch at some point and again goes I feel like Jones now. Hit the mountain top and he's actually been kind of heading downwards. It's just that John Jones Even no longer at the peak of his career in his prime is still better than those that are rising up. Could Be Valentine SHANECO. GotTa win in over Caitlyn. Chew Kagan Third round stoppage. I mean you know what she did goes little by little she you went from. I believe in the first round with not much time left like a minute. She got the takedown but stating guard to Kagan had a high guard closed guard a body triangle from on the bottom just nullified except for that. Remember that cutter up second round again. The striking SHANECO winning But taken in in the midst but again take now now in do half guard and remember she was maybe looking to secure a head and arm choke but she couldn't really pass and all right. Now you get into the third round get she gets to take down side control and right away. She got into crucifix. Exit looks so smooth the way she did it and boom that was it. I love the way. See Surgically picked her apart and made adjustments In what's what's really her secondary strength because she comes from You know moisture in kickboxing so beautiful performance by the champ. Yeah I mean that fight went everywhere Valentine I wanted it to go and it. It sucks because at the moment you feel like Caitlyn chicane was the right person the correct person to Abi across by age from her. It's Valentine is that far ahead I think of everyone else and you know some of the names that she called out at the end of the fight you look at them and you go. Yeah yeah those. Those are good fighters but I don't think we need a good fighter to defeat Valentina. Shinko we need a great fighter She said Maiyo mortar fairy in Calderwood. Right I looked in it. Looks like Calderwood is just on the best run right now. I think she'll get it. She's one three or four in Roxy One two three and Maya has won two of three. The only problem is Maya Las to Roxie and miles has also not made weight twice. Silent Calderwood stands as the the next opponent for a champion. Who wants to be active and says says I don't have to be on pay per views? You can put me on a fight night which he did versus lose Karma when they went international defied in Montevideo Uruguay so expect Calderwood and Mountin. Shinko sometime. This spring right. Yeah I I'd have to look at the timeline of how things played out but earlier. That night Lauren Murphy called out and Mata ferry row. She did respond. So that sounds great to me. I don't know if that was during the card because if it was I'm sure at the end which aired Valentina call her name much went ooh that would have been nicer to say. Hey I'm about that fight but but realistic when you look at the stats and all that thing called party makes the most sense called. It wouldn't make sense. We know she's healthy. Because we've been in the Seneca Jim in Las Vegas and we've seen training and then how about the fact that Calderwood and Roxana pretty close. I mean they've been teammates for a couple of years now so I. I'm pretty pretty sure both of them know the situation. You know what I mean. Three of four is definitely more impressive than two of three and I think even Roxie he is nicest she is would would say. Yeah I called her. What is a little bit? She's one step ahead of me right now. But with his activist Valentina Schenk owes get is being being roxy can if she can get a win over Murphy then maybe she can be next for the winner of Calderwood would versus Shivshankar. What we're getting ahead of ourselves but back the Lauren Murphy? That was a lot of underdogs hit She beat Andrea Lee. There was a few the people who were surprised at how. How did you score that? Do you remember that one thousand to give it to Lee personally. But I wasn't upset. It was close Murphy. Yeah I heard Tim you know people were throwing away. Throw around the word robbery again and I didn't feel like that was really a robbery. If I had to pick one it would be Andreoli but it was a close fight and I I had no problem going out of the way. Yeah Yeah Women's flyweight division interesting. You know there's a big spotlight on because the champot and she's active so Lots to cover their. But Anyway I guess let me give you a little bit I I know we're kind of we're spending a lotta a lot of time here. Especially on the main event. There was so much controversy though I felt like we have to cover it. So let me tell you what. The bonuses were Trevor Giles and James Krause for fight on the night Kaelin Williams in Morrow Batista for performance of the night they get the fifty thousand each the gate three point five million and some change in in Houston very very impressive. Seventeen thousand four hundred and one in attendance. The rest of the main card win as follows. Justin Tafa defeated one atoms TKO punches. I thought maybe an early stoppage but not by much trust me. You don't WanNa hit with get hit with another haymaker. You don't have to but I did see one Adams clearly grabbing having a single which showed me he was in I think the referee kind of came into break it up and then realize oh and then he backed off a few more strikes landed. I don't know he. I saw the impact of it because all these bodies were moving so quickly But in the end Wonka Adams didn't complain and you and I covered on the sports caster broadcasts the the inevitable was that was probably gonNA get him but we've seen greater comebacks and that single allows you to kind of like you know Kinda ducked under you know. Somebody's body and that body that person can't get full leverage when they're trying to find your head maybe he buys you ten seconds maybe clear the COBWEBS. That's the part that we don't know but regardless list. I don't think too many people were upset. I just wanted to make the note of of how that went down Dan Ebay over Massad Beck. Nick Split decision there Great eight great fight. I loved it and then Derek Lewis started things off. He's the Houston native by defeating. Latifi was getting scary there though because the TV was getting some take downs and and Lewis had win round three. You know he basically was a slow starter wasn't as active as you've seen them another fights but when he turned it on and around three freeman he made it really really exciting And in the any got his. Henry's but go ahead Your thoughts on Tofte Louis or anything else you can make an argument birth weights whether or not that fight was stopped short or not right. I think it came down to the way things look visually. I thought the referee stepped in at the right moment He just didn't break them apart at the right. You had problems separating them and so had topic just walked away the second he came in. I think think we would've all said that was a pretty bean shot and the riot was pretty bad. He collapsed uppercut. Yeah but because he wasn't able to move him away a gave Adams a little bit of time. I am the kind of reach for a leg and it changed our perspective of maybe where one could have been right but like you said the inevitable was that will probably be more follow up and that will you. I ended up saving. I'm at the end of the day. I think it was just kind of the visual of it but I thought it was a decent call and then with Ebay and brick beck nick I mean the featherweight division just always delivered and with Bechtel. Like if you're a beck fan which I think you and I are. We definitely know Danny Gay a lot better but with Beck we've always always felt like this is a guy that can be a champ one day but he's you know he's got clipped well guess what he fought all the way to the end against a tough guy was hitting really really hard and when he she was imploring his wrestling you know he he was a savage man. I mean He. That was a tough one. That was a tough one for the judges of score. They got it right. And I don't think becky stock dropped and he answered to the question about the Chin but you gotta give all the Credit Danielle. WHO's now five and one in? UFC and and looking better and better goes. I think the judge has got it right but I think thank you was very razor thin. It was very close. Close fight I'd love to see them do it again at some point but Danny Gay. That's a huge win for him. Massad Becca UH is a very tough customer and I think that's going to be a huge jump for Danny Gay. Hopefully that next opponent is one more step. Now you're looking at one of them guys outside looking in agreed. And then what do you think about the big black beast Can he put it together. He says he still wants to get better. But but at the same time I mean he's got a lot of people Usually pretty active save for the nine months that he had the recover from the ACL. Can this guy be a world champion. Goes he can because with with heavyweights pick each other off so quickly and one thing that Derek Lewis is shown. He's that guy that right time right place. He's down so he could be one of those guys that fills on four weeks noticing. You never know but what what he probably can't do is be champ and B. Champ for a while as is where some of these guys that you look at you like Franson gone who is steep amyotrophic. Those guys seem like when they get the title they could hold onto it for for quite a bit. I don't know that. Derek Lewis is. This showed us a complete game that makes us think he's unstoppable. He's just a very tough out. Yeah I agree so let me just say. I think I already alluded to Trevor Giles When I noted that talking about Selena's card he did defeat jeans krause? They got the fifty K.. As well for the fight of the night lauren. Murphy got the win over. Andrew League close split decision Taylor and Williams over Alex Ron big ups at their For the bookies having Marana was a big three to one favorite Mile Batista defeated miles. John's and then in the early premiums which are on the UCLA pass and ESPN plus journey newson over Domingo Ponte Andrei you'll versus Jonathan Martinez and use of all over Austin Lingo. So overall goes a card that on paper we went to title-fights Great. I can't wait for. He gave Beck Dick. Big Black Beasts is back watch offer top on someone's going to sleep and maybe Murphy Andrea Lee. You and I both knowing you know that it it's GonNa be a tough fi in the story of krause the rest. I mean there was like five matches where you're like. I can skip those but we both wind up giving bring it. I think a nine and an eight and a half at the end because just storylines were produced. We add an epic main event shawshank shined. It was fun way. I I was a little scared at the end of the night. Because there's a little underlining issue going on right now that right. It wasn't entertaining night. I I gave it about an eight out of ten but what what happened here in the last two cards is you have a very top heavy card. where the main event? If that were to fall off I don't know that you would pay to see the rest of the card and that reminds me a lot of boxing and so right. Now you get you get to back to back cards like that that I feel like a probably going to do pretty good at the box office. I think people probably paid for these cards and I don't want the UFC to get get that idea of making cards like that more often. You know you Coming here in Las Vegas. That card looks a little bit better. If you compare some of the other cards the main cards look a lot better than we got last night and I just I don't WanNa go down that boxing route where we're paying for that one big fight and hoping everything else falls falls into place. We've gotten a little lucky and it actually kind of has but I really hope that's not Some going forward while what you don't want is a lot of pay per view is being sold and ESPN ESPN themselves. said it was one million views for Conor McGregor five hundred thousand additional subscribers to their ESPN plus Platform and so. It's a big home run for them. And then you remember what Dana White said it was a huge gate at the staples arena. And then this one was seventeen thousand one three three and a half million gate in Houston which I think broke their Houston record. So if you hear that the pay per view sold the UC's That's right and it wasn't a stacked because we've been given given to you which means better for the fight nights but we want now we've worked two used to having pay per views with fights I'll the beauty of mixed martial arts. John do the rankings report. Tomorrow there's not going to be that much to talk about that right. There look at how many ranked fighters there are on a fight card. That'll usually tell you if it stacked or wasn't forty two forty seven wasn't stacked wasn't a fun night. Yeah I gave it a nine looking ahead to two forty eight. We got izzy. And you'll Romero we leasing versus J.. Check back then you got jared cannon near who supposedly is going to be the back for us on your Romero however he doesn't have an opponent so he might be the guy that trained makes wait in case Romero or God forbid a bit of Sun Yeah is is not ready to go Hell I want till in that. Spot versus cannon near Canada can slip in if the other fight gets something happens to it and until can just get a paycheck and go home Brunson versus a basin. I'm down so the middle is GONNA big spotlight on it. Geely Ligi laying Orissa's Neil Magny by Neil Car Close Max Griffin. Alex Oliveira. I think this one's better on paper than I think so too. That are pretty fun. Yeah but but but still We've noticed a little bit of a drop off anyway. All right. Final thoughts on any controversies or the fight card of UC to forty seven before we exit. And how how. The whole night was just filled with controversy. I didn't know how to feel at the end of the night because there are so many people going one way. And then once I kind of looked at social media and some of our colleagues wasn't as one sided as it felt as I was going to bed and then just thinking like you know doing win this for as long as we've done it were very protective of the sport and I even got it even got into my head a little bit like is what Dominick Cruz. Losing and Joe Rogan. What they're doing at the end of the card? Is that even good for the sport like to do that. Live on the air. And what does that make us. Look like in the the eyes of everybody else because like it or not we're on a big stage now. ESPN and there's a lot and you fans tuning in and we've kind of looked like a train wreck a little bit like we don't really know what we're we're doing where we're blaming judges there you know I bet you there's a lot of common fans that just think. UFC's probably don't understand the same judges wire boxing guys doing. Yeah may it kind of gets crazy in in a I think it kind of it kind of puts me in a weird spot so I respect that. They're doing that and I like take that they're they're putting pressure on these commissions but at the same time I don't know live on. The air is is the right way to go about it because then it kind of makes everything look like a circus little you you there. Even fanning the flames of a little bit fix and all that Shit remember now boy and I don't think they've just been Gregor. He worked coming off that way. Maybe it's they're loaded on beer just like to see stuff if I'm if I'm Dana White. I'm listening to that. I'm probably saying shut up man like bring that up afterwards. We'll talk about that afterwards awards and figure out a plan to fix that but but don't make it look like that live on the air. I mean I respect the fact that they're doing it but and I don't think that they're doing that on purpose. They want to do a bunch of other stuff they WANNA do open scarring. They WanNa buy think dean. Thomas tweeted bring in seven judges. Some somebody said pull three of them and put them in a closed circuit room. Those aren't the answer right. The answer to me is just pull sle lease off of his mistakes that he made earlier. Just someone in there that can I don't care again in both of you and I said forty eight forty seven we disagree but will accept that forty nine forty six and we don't. We're not feeling I think. Just fix that and I think we would have been okay at least in Texas but yeah I mean look at Daniel Kwami he. He said Hey. I had three rounds a to a he had it for res- right he's not a lunatic right but but he it's very close and it could have gone either could have gone either way. Yeah exactly so I mean you can't let's just say one of those suggestions was have fighters do well there you go. There's one fighter that had a one way. Hey there were a bunch of fighters ahead of going the other way I mean even. They can't agree so that that can't be the answer and it can't be the answer no They're going to make mistakes as well. Anyway all right folks wanted to get in here early because there was a lot to talk about trust me. We're chomping at the bit all day all day on Sunday Pricier than this may be a few hours ago but You know as long week by week and then we had our sportscaster broadcasts and Just kind of wanted to relax a little bit. Gather our thoughts but it's an early edition of UFC. Two forty serve in the episode is dropping early. So hopefully you enjoy it. CHECK US out on spinning back. 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Ep. 3,096: Cynthia Calvillo interview, Conor Vs Poirier is almost a done deal, more

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Ep. 3,096: Cynthia Calvillo interview, Conor Vs Poirier is almost a done deal, more

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Also known as fight island in that's on Saturday headlined by Brian T, City Ortega against the Korean Zombie Janssen. So we'll look at that card all the big fights from that car and we also gotta guess or you. Scindia Khalil you see flyweight currently a flyweight in for many years she competed as a strong late so. We'll talk about her fight versus Lauren Murphy coming up at UC to fifty four next Saturday when goes on will be hosting watch along here on Sports Caster, join us for the watch watch the fights along with us. It's a pay per view so too big car that's a line by either Mogomedov. Engaging all right folks buckle up. It's the May Junkie Radio. Show. It'd be right back. Let me goes Danny Seguida dropping in just wanted to let you know about 'em junkies latest Botkin it's. Eh E. weekly Spanish language show dedicated to all things professional fighting each Monday we recap the major events from the weekend plus we analyze the week's biggest news you also bring you exclusive interview with the best fighters, coaches and experts in the Hispanic and Latin American you can find out. Every Monday morning on your favorite podcasting platform. So screw. Amazon Joe. All right so Into Calvia will join us at nine forty am civic time twelve forty PM eastern time. in the meantime or talk about some of the latest news. But like I said, I always leave that out for it's for a reason and other stuff goes congratulations to your dodgers. They had their backs to the wall on the got thumped five nothing. was eight nothing in the second game and it was looking like you guys were done. But they clawed back and the loss eight, two, seven in game. Two. Some of that momentum could carry over in will address that in just a second. But man, you guys almost made it one, one, eight, two, seven with a man on base and I think the man was on third. Taking he just hit a triple. So. You guys had the winning run at home. Again. You came up short but then you responded yesterday with eleven in the first. In a final score of fifteen to three, right if three. Lasting scored two runs but I think the the underlying thing here is like tonight. So Long Clayton Kershaw wakes up okay. You should be the starter, but we've decimated their bullpen and their bullpen was already kind of hurting a little bit. So I, think this is going to be a good thing. We're real streaky team said I. Know that they're already starting to hit a lot get some runs because that's what they did all season. Hopefully but that together and it just turns the tide. Didn't they decimate your Bogan too. I mean, I run game one we went through five pitchers. On but this one wasn't so bad. So. We should be okay and the fact that we got away with wow, we didn't get away because we lost the game but with pushing Clayton back when game do kinda hurts you know but. I heard likely and probable. So I imagine he will go but that's what they said the morning, the game two, and then all of a sudden I think around eleven am our time something like that. Out Circle. Those damn I guess you know what to be fair goes in Iowa City here. Winner. The Lakers clinched Sunday right. So we already are on Monday. We did. Right. Had are wet. All Ready. Had ourselves on the back of the? Yeah we could do it again. We can man yesterday we were I was on hoops hype, which is part of the USA Today sports network Iran hoops, hoops hype. That was like at least three articles addressing. All right. Let's dust ourselves off we won. But remember the NBA season's GonNa Start Again, pretty soon because of the way the pandemic stretched out the previous one same thing that happened in soccer. And So they're talking about well, who's likely to stay in WHO's likely to go? I want you guys read the Article Your Lakers fan or of your Lakers hater but I think we're looking pretty good. It says Ad. Almost one, hundred, percent stay I wish they would have said ninety nine, point, nine, 'cause they may have jinxed. Unbelieving Jinx Jinx's bummed. He's saying for y'all lot that do. and. rage on Rondo did exercise option I think he just wants to get paid a little bit more. and. It talked about two names, Danny Green Kyle Kuzma, who could likely? Be Part of a tray along with maybe Javale. McGee because of the money just because. They don't seem to fit in all Miss Danny Green's D- Of course, him incudes can get hot from three point land, but we've got a few others that can can shoot it. Am I think they just you know you gotta revamp the team and so by trading some of that, you could get another. Another big name. A good third score so anyway. All right. So as far as Amigos, we'll start right at the top, not a bigger name sport than conor McGregor McGregor, employees of kind of like done the whole call each other out but respectfully unlike their first light. and. The proper was McGregor wanted to fight this year. The UFC said no. And the UC offer January twenty third almost let the ticket or leaving they said yes or no that's take it or leave it folks I saw McGregor tweet alright I accept Me I consider it down done. But Have I seen both bowed agreements no, you know and. I didn't anything on Junkie last night or this morning but to me like I said, it sounds like. With Dustin saying Hayden full. McGregor. You know he usually figures it out because then the sieges. While K I lose one hundred grand year or their big deal whatever the he gets needlework UC does handsomely. I think it's going to happen you excite against. I like it. I mean it's a rematch that I'm not the biggest skyline rematches but I don't hate them at the same time. and. This one's interesting because the first one had a definite conclusion to it, but it was one of the first times that we thought the that kind of land behind the ear that that just isn't your typical knockout punch and Dustin was so forthcoming after that about how that fight affected him and they both improve so much that it's made me WanNa see it again. So I'm down with that and I think it's interesting. You know like. The put their foot down they really did and because they've created a cart before, which is essentially what he wanted and he didn't get it. So I think every time something like that happens. I mean I just think it's A. Measuring contest with the UK's the connor a lot and so I think right now you see the Stan but don't be surprised if conor McGregor comes back with something, we don't know what it is but I would not be shocked that we came back with something else and you know why he would come back with something this. Karma Gregor. Well Yeah. But because a bunch of fans or a bunch of media in the process of congratulating them letting them know that we're happy to see it. Someone's GonNa say something like I couldn't get the December data but hey, I'm excited to see you minute. At. Todd Ego works. That's how those power guys were going. Yeah. It had slapped me around. You know what? I'M GONNA demand in comeback. Look, the meat potatoes is the date, the opponent. I just wish they would have waited till twenty, four th at this point just to see what comes out of that because when we start getting. Too, deep into the spring. `specially with Habib. Habib. Takes about three months off of the year where he's just unavailable. And that's because of the religious holiday, the the Muslim religious holiday of Ramadan. About Last about a month. And then obviously somebody who's fasted from. sunup to sundown and not really drained. You need a little bit of a recovery and so. A lot of us who want to see that division. Constantly active we respect. What he does, but basically, we we've accepted he's GonNa fight once in the fall in once in the spring the summers a little bit pretty much off limits I guess. So January twenty third. Let's just say Conor McGregor one. But he broken knuckle. Does that now mean that a doesn't fight by you know a certain date in April or May when Robin begins now also not fights postponed. So next September October, you know I don't know. But were beating may not be just engaging in connor may not be Dustin way so I guess technically UC can just shift things around but I figured you know what we're this close. Let's see how that plays out and then we'll go from there heller still there another wildcard named Michael Chandler. We might have to step up the fight either one of those guys and then again, what if he wins you know so It's I guess it's as against its tentative but kinda looked. That's good. So now we gotta figure out well now, what happens to Ferguson? The hooker what happens to Oliveira Chandler, Nakashima ardy whoever else's laxed out there? And then go from there. May just blew my mind right now. With the I completely forgot about Ramadan and just how close if there was any type of injury which happens quite often with fighters. That could really really because there's no way you don't give Connor wins at fight there's no way you don't give them could. You. Have see what Lee that. Hell No. With a bit beaten cowboy and ways since last long. And I don't see how anybody could deny him again we're not. Happen but. But WE KNOW THAT The. Got, what's called the war room now? Dan Why does allow people to see it is granted a few interviews or it's in the background I got imagine there's three walls. That has whose contract is expiring water the rankings WHO's fighting WHO and win. But I, imagine there's one wall. That's a big pot like. You know a big pot with an S. dollar sign in front of it. That's Habib versus McGregor Part Tube. So I got imagine he just stares at that maybe bows to. Or whatever. On the simpsons, the guy that built the monorail apply looks. But yeah, they would not risk. Not Doing the fight. So you're right. They can't get it done by certain time up, which is back thing. I looked Ramadan in twenty twenty one in it's April eleven. That right. April twelve excuse me to May eleventh so. Imagine the last the Saturday, you can catch a beep. Before Ramadan would be the following. I just opened up my calendar here. And Goes I, think I need new computer I have so much INFO on this computer it's slow. It been wheels me. So. I. I wasn't ready to buy a new one, but I may have to just because of that or are add more memory but the last. Weekend would be April the tenth in twenty twenty one. In. So if the other guys fighting on the twenty third. To April tenth, that's that's ten weeks of preparation. If he basically you want cool back and count you know, and usually these fighters need to decompress a little bit or we can wait until sometime in July I guess and. Maybe be is really you know ready to go by then I mean that's not realistic. Our imaginations August September more when. We're just putting on our binoculars union looking into the future 'cause it takes about a month to Kinda get your body back to normal. and. Then from there to get into account, right? Sia for sure you're looking at August? September. I think. Yeah but again, we'll go a lot more. On the twenty fourth and reminder goes in I'll be hosting a watch along here on sportscaster here on this channel. So you might as well subscribe now that we you always get the notifications of our watch along which are basically the the fight parties that we do. We Watch it's along with you. The next one is October twenty fourth, a beaten amalgamate offenses UFC. Undisputed belt were actually he's unifying is undisputed belt versus just engages interim belt. And of course, we got Michael Chandler on standby. In case one of those two isn't ready to go. There's one possible out but I think it's a long shot. In that's if Justin were to beat Habib in an all time. Classic that needs the rugby run back but even then McGregor's such a powerful. Figure, in the sport that even he could possibly interrupt that. Say, I don't know. Why We're Mrs Endless of what could happen. We might as well just wait until the twenty four hours ago. Well, this is what happens. That's amazing thing about if it were just that great fight. I would say they wouldn't do it. They would do the connor thing. If Justin. Arguably one, but the decision went to copy. That could be the only way where I can see them may be doing it the rematch. If Justin knocked out could be early. I don't think they would do that I. Think we WANNA Connor I don't know man that's that's tough. Not just in winning just loses in any fashion except the most egregious. You know scorecard ever. I think. We move on, we move onto the winner of McGregor versus Poi-. Although the you'll see my weight that one ounce it what a foyer wins do we really WANNA rush way back against so be. Right away because would have beaten McGregor and hooker. Yeah. That deserves another shot in my broke. So but do it before April or would they say everybody takes I'm on we'll just regroup in late summer. Power. Nf Justin wins, employees, wins they bought before they had a good fight and gates. He's one of those guys that says I just stuck on undefeated finer, and now I'm GonNa go on the. Revenge, Tour Dustin employees at your next. Obviously, he can't get to any hours because he's over one championship. But again, we got our binoculars on and we're looking as far as we can in the all the possibilities that are out there. That's what makes it fun. You know what I mean. That's pretty crazy that division The bantamweight is not. Welterweight can be nuts. But it's lightweight right? Lightweight. Division I. Think it's got the dept along with the superstar names to go with it. That's what makes it. Arguably still the division that pops the most the welterweight might say, well, wh-. What about us they got? Quality Champion in Comorros Mon-, they got some really really starpower athletes in Hey Mazal, Colby Covington. and then they got some really really good up and comers really not commerce contenders I should call in Liane. Edwards Neil wonder boys definitely got some popularity Hamas Shimane his. Climbing up the ranks veterans like Magni Maya who can put those guys over or check them. You know they still need more too but. That division you know is is something else by the way it's got a lot of talent but right now the champions not. He's he's he hasn't arrived in terms of that Superstar status you either to be dominant. Or popular. Either he's Hitting eight and a half's on. The scorecard of ten pretty damn good man he's lost once you know but he's still not like nobody's getting excited if you save Okinawa ski for so-and-so. So we all just go. It's pretty cool. Who What Other? What other title fight on that card you know you already start saying that? Whereas if believes vines only like shit. I can't make it to the wedding. Habib's fighting you normally that's right there that that's a big deal woken on ski needs a little bit more to get to that level is he's already kind of becoming that level Jones becoming or is that love? Excuse me? What were you saying? I wanted to give you a question that we all kinda argued about last night. Three names. Tell me WHO's more likely to fight. Niklas Oh, my God, Daniel, Cormie or been asking. If i. told you one of those guys is coming back out of retirement or whatever the hell you call Nick Diaz what he's up to. Which one would you think is the one that's actually lays up the gloves. than. You think so. I think Ben ask Him. Now I know something about been I, don't know if it's public I'm pretty sure it is but I can't take the chance. He's pretty much retired or at least retired for now, and the Nick is just. I mean I love the fact that they said the guy's been training. He cleaned up he's ready to go. He's audible. Denouncing, announcing We announce that. Okay well. I would call me did. I think he was asked about the use on a polite ticket back. So none of them they're all they'd all be returning fighters. So none of them are in these. Horrible. So it's not one of those countries be filling Guy Dana call the offered me mill. But still I'll go with cormet. While I mean you kind of scared me off now with what you said, but I was thinking aspirin. He's got a lot of stuff going on Oscar. Businesses. In stuff but. Look. Good one but. I think specially, if he told them look man. Turns out Francis can't go blades can go you WanNa dance again with me Oh Jimmy on such a stretch that that wouldn't happen either. Right you mentioned Banham links. Let's talk about Peter Algebra sterling you've two, fifty, five, no, two, fifty, six, December, twelve. Your thoughts. What's the fight that had to happen? You know we've all been wanting that we make sense as far as records go rankings go it just had to happen. It sucks that. Sucks that it feels like alginate had like jump through hoops to make this happen was the clear guy. This is the fight that should happen again defending against Peter Your? It's GonNa be a good fight. You know Algebra when he's at his best I feel like he can defeat anyone in the world. Every now and again have that fight where things don't seem to click but I feel like he's gotten over that. The. Good fight and NPR guys like Peter. Peterman, woken offscreen. Israel on pride cleared this up on in his last fight. But are guys that just came out of almost nowhere. And one title quick. And I wasn't really sure exactly what we had with them. They hadn't had those types of fights where you go. Okay. If you put in this situation, he's good because I can reference this fight where he was there and he fought right through it they haven't had like every scenario just yet. So. Peter Yawn I. Don't really know like I. Know We have a great fighter. I just don't know visi leaked. and. So I think I'll Jemaine sterling can give them some problems on his best night. I think it's GonNa. Be Fun Fun Fun I like it and it had to happen. That's what I like about. It's happened. They made it happen. To be fair Gansta lump tested is pretty. Well. Yeah. But like is you? Put it this way we don't know what happens. If you put back, right ever really seen much of that. Certain fighters we could say all right. They've passed that test they passed this debts pass at us. I think. Israel's is shown how tough he is man that there are no question works Bagai. Early predictions who do you like Yom or Algebra? I'M GONNA go, without job. I. Think eventually gets them down and I think also that when it gets you down, he's like Anaconda man he just he just zapped every. Bit of energy out of your body, he knows a win the round. If he can get that early on Yawn I, think he can make a tough night for him. Yeah, and if beyond can beat him then I think he will answer a lot of questions. Yeah he's the champ but. His road to the title was. I don't know. Right time right place. Right time right a the whole thing with Josie all the that shouldn't have been hit. You know. If, somebody were told me a man, Peter Gammons. My friend or I trained with him, he's awesome. You know then I'd say, well, gap an Algebra would be able to hang his hat if he had beaten Peter Yang for the title, not to say Josie not awesome right now, but he's been losing. You know. So Peter Yang got his win. He's got his Heidel over. That's not at this moment. Awesome. You know. The. I don't know we'll see that's that will be one hell of a first title defence for shirt. You know in Volkov's skis kind of going through something similar. You WanNa title it's cool. You defended against the guy that you want from. Who Kinda beats you you You. See what I'm saying like his stock hasn't. Risen yet. Thing. That scares me a little bit about Algebra sterling is. What is he gonNA look like over five rounds like can he put that same energy that he puts into a three round fight into a five round fight and does he play that card almost like people said Paulo Kosta where? You know maybe he just doesn't go as hard and because of that, he loses like those are kind of like the question marks I have when fight. While this guy's got a podcast breaks down fights. He's very active on fight night. So I think he has a good grasp of what what it takes to win a fight. What it takes to win a title fight like he is a hardcore anime van plus one advantage she has. Is the championship pedigree of his Jim Longo Saroj the Sarah Longer Gypsies me. At Sarah's one there, Chris. wideman. As one there and they've had fight fighters who fought for the world title like ally Quinta. And with Matt Sarah and Ray longos. Expertise and experience. I think he'd be ready goes I think he'd be ready for the title shot now up maybe Peter Jon wins maybe I'm wrong I don't know maybe he gasses in the fourth like you said what you didn't say that but One. But I'm pretty confident that that. Even in the losing effort, he can go the twenty five minutes. Be Good fight though. Yeah. So they're fights that folks again. Now Cynthia Calvia will join us in about fifteen here she's fighting Lauren Murphy UFC two, fifty four. Gives me an opportunity year to remind you all that on October twenty, four, th Saturday. At Two PM Eastern Eleven A. M. Pacific. The UFC paper you will begin those and I will be here on this channel at ten. Am Pacific one PM Eastern one hour early to fights before the review will watch a total of seven five. If, you get the pay per view in. If you don't get the paper of you will be your eyes and ears for the papers. You'll see two, fifty, four watch long and yet that. IS HEADLINED BY HABIB OFF AS, he unifies his undisputed title against just engages interim title. Me Take a look at that card. By the way you see two fifty, four Robert Whittaker's jared cannon here. In arguing that. Alexander Volkov while Harris In argue with that goodbye. be over Lauren Murphy cannot argue with that one. Man Alive versus young The lava. Literally tried to do this four times in the last three months, it seems like. Stephens. DREW versus tied to we've awesome. And then I don't know what the other fight will be honestly that sneaks in their. Hair some names from the card. Alex Oliveira Sam. Allie Casey Gani. I don't I think one of those I'm looking at one of those names as being somebody that. The see might throw in there as you get closer to that per view, you want sell the damn pay per view you know what I mean so. you can't go wrong with Alex Ella. Era. Now. Live. He's a fun fighter pre post during the fight. He's just entertainment man. Yeah for sure. All right. We'll move on from yawn and Sterling, which is set for December twelve earlier we talked about McGregor way looking likely for January twenty third. Of Twenty twenty, one by the way, McGregor was saying cowboy. Stadium. I like his vision his. Thinking that you know the pandemic. It'd be nicer the pandemic numbers were. Kinder to us as late with the pandemic numbers have been good here in the states they've been going the other the other way. Now, I could just be a surge that represents. Kids back in school or People attending sporting events I don't know why why pretend to be an expert it it's too late to save. Well, that's Labor Day because Labor Day was six weeks ago. I mean it has been hot in certain parts of the country. Maybe people are still getting their beach on their pool on who knows. But I. Think it's a little bit of kids back to school in some of the socializing that's on on some. Some conferences are allowing fans some professional sports are allowing fans So I don't know but I'm just hoping that that surge those down because I would like to see McGregor fight at Cowboy Stadium I I'm not a fan of the Dallas cowboys by the they got probably the most. The bad ass stadium in America One. La Allen looks pretty damn impressive but this one's tremendous. Seen many pack down fight there. So I've seen boxing scene. I. Think a Wrestlemainia. So you know it comes off really really nice but. You know I think I think if he's looking at January twenty third keeping it real, it wouldn't break the records that I think he thinks he can break not because of. Its McGregor's play not because of that just because I think they still would limit the spacing and I don't know how that would come on you know but maybe having that. ALLOWS THEM TO SOMEWHAT FILL IT UP I? Mean some fans are showing up the Cowboy Games and That's cool to see you know as long as they're safe but. I don't know. That one might wind up being. The Apex Center or yards island if you can't sell out cowboys stadium. Don't don't hold event there. That's the whole point is how big and massive it is to go back in the record books and look at that like Dude, how many times we have to see the Pontiac? Silverdome in WWF. Andrei in Ho Cogan what's the one thing that they point out I mean there's two things right? The Slam and how massive all that wasn't the records broke those things stand the test of time. If you're going to do something like cowboys, stadium think about how many damn press conferences people would bring that up. And if you're gonNA finally pull the trigger on it, it's gotta be massive and there's gotta be fan the all over the place, and if even if you can I mean granted, we could fill that up to half the capacity a still a gigantic gate It's not an upright it's not going to be what you're. You're expecting you're right number I think that was cloudy and pat impact cow that They had the standing room. There are just people. Were Julio Cesar Chavez I think it was Greg Halberd. Been City at stadium that one hundred thousand. So. I WANNA. Make sure I still think how did they find it? Eight thousand feet altitude maybe it was like Monterrey or some other city I'm not the look that one up was referencing it. Who knows I could be well, I know they weren't a stadium. I, know they were in Mexico and I'm pretty sure it was Greg Haugen I know for sure it was Cesar Chavez that. That won the fight and. Was Pretty much the a side of that one but. I'll get that altogether by by the next time we mentioned this now one thing that Conor McGregor was very smart as he picked the the month of January, the cowboy season usually ends in December. Won't be any schedule. Opposition there. Really impart on Conor McGregor I. Get that part he he's safe. That's the safe bet. So All right. Let's get. Bela Tor a little bit of love the second biggest organization in the world they gotta show tonight Cyborg Blanco. That's the main event Chris Cyborg featherweight champion she defends belts against Arlene Blanco they are on CBS sports network and they have been on CBS sports network however, this is the first time they're on CBS sports network being state side there are other fights have been Europe. So huge event I've been liking them on CBS sports it's just look at CBS sports it's part of CBS CBS sports is like Fox, sports west. Or foxwoods one excuse me where it's it it you know it hasn't been around as long. So it's slowly grown but they have the the TIKI journey show they have on Adam shine and they have Jim Rome. They have some soccer watch soccer there. So they're definitely investing some money and they have a lot of biltmore replays. Annabel tour on live for West Coast and east coast. Biltmore definitely took a huge step up. check it out. It's Channel Two to one. It'd be of direct TV. Tonight, and then some other things regarding belts, and goes you can feel free to comment on. CYBORG Landho-. CBS The only other thing I want to stay with Scott Coker. Did say he'd be interested in booking, resume, versus vader. That tells US Verdun was a free agent right now has at least been talking to valid for maybe or you know stocker can openly say that there's no like A. Free Agency period where that you know that can't even be discussed that usually means that the UFC, some sort rights negotiating rights or time period. I of course, always prefer for the fighters to stay in the AFC less the bell toward vision in question is. And built for the heavyweight division. It's not often i. mean it's got Congress. Who just lost to John was at a resurgence Beta who's champ? Material who's getting older you know does have failure who's also getting older so. I don't know but to be fair getting older and maybe he feels like he just doesn't have a place left the ucla he'd like to do this and get paid. You gotTa build toward that credit they do pay their athletes well but. We will see what do you goes. I. Think this I wanted to comment on this event. I think it's quietly GonNa be very fun car. CYBORG is Leslie TV. Okay. But they also have a tricky on the carpet tricky pit bull and I think that's going to be a fun fight. The Rick Benda's is always fun, Mando. He go missed weight but I think that's GonNa be a firework. Site Awad even though he's on a four fight losing streak, he always puts on great fights. So I think this card will be fun for people to watch, and at the end of the at the end of the card, you get treated a Cyborg doesn't matter who you match up with just fun to watch her. Yeah I don't think too many people are gonNA go again Cyborg I. Mean Blanco's been around. She definitely deserves retitled shot. But I. Don't think too many people are GonNa go against cyborg other than Matt Erickson from USA Today. Sports Animation Hunky, he loves the underdogs. CYBORG is. It's comfy. She's the goat. Because her loss to Amanda Nunes. But man, she'd been doing this for a long time and the have four belts from four major organizations is an a lot of title defenses. Folks is that enough to offset that one head to head against the Manda? Some but Amanda has also had titled Defenses Now. And she check out that clear-cut win. she's got more than Cyborg. She hasn't been doing it as long as Cyborg she doesn't sell as well as I worked probably. For sure on the Mount Rushmore I just don't know she's she's the gold, but for some sheets ago. And then the comment on I kinda, don't want to see it and they've already fought. We don't have very much left of failure. So I wanNA see fresh matchups. a look people pregnant. I want to shoot me after I say this. But they've opened up the pocket books before ridiculous things. When it'd be funny they pulled off brock versus spader. WHO That's must see TV. On. CBS. TAP CBS sports on the shoulder. Go. We got this one. When you ran back, don't put this one on A. On big. CBS Now that would be pretty insane. I mean I love Brazil Verdun Verdun and he's a great fighter and I. Would I pick him again to be failure? By just knowing that there's not much left the. I WANNA see him in the fresh matchup. Now, all right folks we got our next guest. Cynthia Cal hang with us. We'll be right back its enemy junkie radio sportscaster on. The. Sneak is a true crime podcast from for the win in USA Today, and this season is on surfing champion his life took a violent tragic turn. But then thirty seconds, they're both dead the sneak murders it Whiskey Creek is July twenty ninth wherever you get podcasts. And there she is. Real nine, one in one in her career. He's got to fight coming up at UC two, fifty, four Lauren Murphy. She's been ranked as a straw. She's ranked flyweight. She's bad. Ask 'em effort what's up? Man I'm doing great just getting ready to Leap Frog Dhabi so I'm pretty stoked knives I get you pumped up Law or something. Do. All right. Over. I'd probably some sort of a quarantine and like you said, you gotta hop on climbing do that over there again. Usually I. Don't ask this question especially if a veteran like yourself. Cam For this camp was different because a lot of you in Vegas. Yeah definitely it was different. It was a choice I ended up making just because of the covered restrictions it just made a little bit tough to train training California. So it was Kinda no-brainer to come here to Las Vegas especially with the US. CPI. saw you bounce around or. Thought you is. Tour. But did you also do any of the other gentlemen by nearly the is? Always the extreme couture Anna ten planet. Okay. And then you have a new restructuring of your coaching team Welke toes movie going with you. Before He has so I'm going to be taking my striking coach Jimmy Gifford and He's from here beside Las Vegas and then wrong Kessler whose my digits he coach back in San Jose and I'll be taking one of my training partners whose you've see star Mallory Martin. Nice. All right. Would you think you right any different terms or hey WanNa one five. Yeah. No I mean obviously, I'm pretty stoked on a lot of people most you know fires don't want to travel and deal with the WHO you know just the jet lag and many other issues that come up with like finally flying across the world to fight. But you know it's history right? Not to be part of this fight island you know also on could beats card I'm I'm really soaked to be part of history. So I think. It's it's. It's a great thing. Did you see right island declassified on the? Chance it's a four part series yesterday. Have you got? Yeah I think I saw the first one analysis seem to, but I haven't caught up yet. Man after par to I told him what he's you guys got to see this dope really really like it. It's warmly. Four. List that they did it. Awesome. I'm. Not GonNa Lie Attorney My man card right now I read tears coming down my eyes because it was. A roller coaster of emotion. Focussed on few fighters and I don't WanNa give stuff away on everybody employed. Who des Yeah Yeah. So hopefully, they got cameras on your hope we continue. You're right. You're on a great marred you deserve to be on these main events or Bharti had your old programming events like looking back. What do you prefer pop of you or headlines? Car. honestly to me, it doesn't matter I just I just have a goal Reno in that's become a champion whether the. Main Guard main event review I don't care you know. First and foremost is my goal, and then after that, you know inside talking to a little bit about obviously wanted to be on pay per view. So I can get that money you know. But for right now, that's not really that's not the case. So you know my main focus is just getting that title. India you brought up earlier in the interview. Quotas to. Be. We've followed your career even all the way back and. So, I want to ask you. All these progressions that you've been through when you. YOU'RE RUN INTO and. Tom What you do today with they be like. Would they be like? Our Go. I would say that. They're not surprised. A. I mean I'll honestly I mean I don't know whether there would miss fries like you know, hey and making it to this level. But as far as like being involved martial arts just you know nothing different say like especially us in high school I feel like a lot of this probably got into trouble there's a few times got suspended for almost lighting and the Times didn't get caught so. You had A. Career that we don't know about. A Pre pre degree. Yeah. We had a couple of minutes to say we were defeated in the streets. Lauren Murphy when you look at her resume everything, she brings to the table. Is She bringing anything? Anything different opponent that you would do for. I mean I would just say I mean her experience but I mean, I fought some really great people on and all of them some of them veterans just like Jessica too. So they've been around for a long time every every fighter presents on dangerous but. I don't see anything too significant coming from Lauren where we'll be shoot. I really gotTA worry about that one move. You know she's not that big of a finisher. She's finished one time in the you have seen I think. It was against someone who pretty much you know everybody's stubbed. So it's not A. Yet I'm Tom Basically. Looking for really really tough fight. She's not an easy fight you know and easy fighter to finish. So I I do see as a challenge and I wanNA give her you know be the first finisher. This recipe that you have going on right now jim couture ten. You. Have all your. Way On this by year or It's going to be going forward. Yeah I mean, of course, we got to see how things play out. It's difficult for me to like really make a commitment with the routine. What's going on with the world you know whether it be covert or a presidential election? No Kelly's a little bit difficult right now you know it's a with restrictions, and then also how expensive the taxes are crazy. So I'm still trying to figure some stuff out. You know we got to take a day for day and you know I can't really look past like a monthly no four weeks or two months you know right now like for example, like this, I can't was only at. Your Vegas for like two or three weeks, and then I ended up doing my whole fight camp because it just ended up working out that way the best. You brought up taxes and yes you're going to the difference in your paycheck if you're in any way biter now or maybe. Maybe. You should that questions that factors into your decision. You'll see you'll see how you could benefit by being based in the state with no state taxes. And then another thing Damn. Cynthia, you. Would fighters over the years. Gear it it's Jillian Robertson were ten dollar Rosa. Both of those name weren't well on the three and these were even before the UC. Then, she bought a man to cooper dollars would. Bars. Liana materials. To Regan Jessica I like you really haven't had a Lael. At all. There's no Gimme fights. Recognizes all those readings we deserve respect and I don't want to disrespect Jessica Sanchez Burke that was your first sight. I I'M NOT GONNA. She was because I don't know anything about her but I wanna ask you from that I asked a lot of writers. He can you look. Tell me like. What you got paid was there any money inside usually find have army stories bear about what happened when they first started? ME. Far or but it's got. Or. Maybe the way crossing Americans give any. Offense. I would definitely say that after what I get paid on my first sight, we broke even because of like all the medical that had to do but I think I got like a thousand in one thousand. And then for everything else that you have to do for that fight cab, you know maybe maybe not maybe didn't even. Just. Look more out of my pocket where but yeah. You know I just remember it was a very significant for me because I was laid off for three years due to You know I had broken my arm three times in a row. So it's me three years to make my professional debut. So had some built up aggression and I remember just like crying right before I'm GONNA walk out because I'm like. Sorry. They're definitely I should say. Yup definitely wasn't here's a excited because finally they has come. Good, your eggs and Bacon they ordered or Brooklyn or what? I think I have to take this I. Think it's the UC so Time, and that's all right. Thank you so much. I folks there you have it. That is Cynthia Kallio. Always a fun time with her. Goes. We've known her since the amateur days actually had a tough enough of she lost that fight by the way she still had five or six one amateur career, but I'm not particular night. She. She. She lost. But she's only lost twice in her career once as an amateur in once as a pro does have one draw but at nine, one one, if she can get past Murphy who's ranked ahead of her, she'll break into the top ten of the USA Today Sports, anime junkie rankings, and I can't even say her stock arise because she's already pretty popular. She's headliner event and and she's been on pretty big cards and Lauren Murphy, again is a ranked fighter who's won three in. A row herself. So this tremendous India now, this is only your second fight at fly. Let's not forget a lot of that equity that we're talking about is from starlet destroyed portion of her career but still you can move over. You know especially, if you have that type of name, I don't want to say star power just yet. 'cause sometimes that's a lot of pressure on fighters but she has headline events not forget the event stuff the guy she headlined it. So the give those Eder. It was and it was a good performance for her. On that fight. So she's GonNa mark up a lot of little things off the. Bucket list, and so that's what I was case to find out what are your? What are your friends and family 'cause? We've been on we've been around for most of horizon. It's been really cool to see even. The little persona like check the as right like she's very, very popular. So really she's one of those where once you break that top fifteen, they say you're three fights away from title for her it's to whatever it is. It's one less just because she's able to create that persona and be very likable and been known for giving people good fights. Now What do you think there was a Kobe test you ties or bacon and eggs covetous. Yeah probably. but that that sounded like. Added stayed in a hotel in a while but man, that's one of the nicest messages you can get when they go. Chris. Don't know when when. You basically answering because there at the door when you get the knock at the door I should say. Make, we'll have Michael Remember that movie tombstone where they wanted to have room service traveled have room service I. Really Do Love Room Service I remember when Dana Delany played the part of. Dusky lady say this, you have a name I forget. I. Remember when she said that was like you go girl I'm a big fan of room service as well. the home of the Twenty Dollar Burger. I mean the prices are a little outrageous when it goes around service, but it is Kinda, Nice. I like the game of the tipping. They. Let you know like, I'm I'm gear. As pulling that kind of have their little little towel right over there over the album and Gannon they stand there and they go. Would you be needing anything else? It's like this little. Baas. How does the look we've eating anything else? Okay. Brag you know. Do you need any is because if you haven't looked at the wall yet did you need any is the can against anything? Guys looking go for a hike or They're still delayed and then all of a sudden you go out because you're already wolfing your food. And Brad, we got the plans and got the OH. Shit Yak the wife or the girlfriend gives you that nudge like he's waiting for tip you. Go you know, and then you ain't got time to go fifteen percent is your. Twenty Bucks? Off? And kids are acting out. Gets. Background that you know that that guys Kamar behave. Transaction getting it through the have I. told you game that I love playing when it comes to the witnessed. Number. Juliette has and she rolls her eyes and just. grimace because she hates it. We. Go somewhere. Usually, I'll leave the tip in cash. So, we'll say like the crack day, for example, right or let's pick a national chain. Let's right I hop. And our breakfast was thirty bucks. I Dunno whatever. So, I'll just I always tip twenty percent i. If I have. More at twenty percents thirty six. It was a ten on my given I don't know. But all leave the tip. And then when you walk up to the register and pay. You know being good good couple minutes or whatever, and how's the service. Great. and. Then they go down a little tip. You know. And I say. I'M GONNA I'm not, GONNA put down because they give you the ticket. So you're supposed to sign in attitude and they point Jack Attitude No. I'm not gonNA attitude and I'm going to tell you why yet to give them a real serious face and scowl. Argo logo why not you know or sometimes they'll go into K. know. But there there's a little tremble in because usually that's. Ninety nine out of one hundred people leave a tip. So for someone to that, there are not going to do it is that's not the big deal. It's the fact that during about the tone why in just when they're all doing that deal on Mike because I already took them casts silly and then I giggle it off and they Julia just goes like this but. I told her man I'm over fifty. Let me get away with some of these things from time to time. It's fun. I like that one I am the one I don't like is when you're picking up food and ask you if you WANNA leave a tip. Or what? This is just the normal at that point. When I go to seven I got back I do and everyone right What is your tipping because you're tipping the service but I'm just Rude. I WANNA turn around like Luther in the warriors and y like I WANNA SCREAM A. Building what happened nobody did any Heen? When he does the Candy Bar Yeah. Yeah, All right. So let me explain you're. you're right. We called it in someone. Took it down in someone prepared it. I guess someone did package it. You know seven eleven you open the door grab your coke. In then you pay over there on the past. And give you your your silverware, your Napkins. So. The only reason I have done it is I don't give them twenty bucks or site twenty percent. I give the MIC like three ones maybe or a fine of that's all I got but I'm certainly not doing. The fifteen or twenty percent game because you're right goes all I did was drive up you know and. You came up to me with a mask and you had me the food that I ordered and I give the. Not even that that I'm okay. With that, I could see how right you're risking your life the walkout. Cool. I'm talking about I'm walking in. and. They had me a little bag and pick it up and I walk out that one. Yeah. Well, the only reason have done it is for the Camaraderie early on. Of they've been out of work and they could boost and then as I drove away because I overdid it that day. Thing, I gave them a ten show just giving them a five and as always jar like wait a minute I'm kind of been. You know kind of an economic situation do and I remember kind of driving and took me a couple exits before right but my slough back on and drove home. But I remember. Like you know like I'm ED rough too. So yeah, you have to go in. You have every right to just go in with your phone. Like yeah, that's crazy. It's going to be a lot of fun Garcia. Okay. Grab it. You can parents help does that she does that to avoid fans so you can just do it in this. You know as they're saying, would you like to live turn around and goes out the little trick if they come to the car? Know beforehand that if you have those singles laying around, give it to them or whatever I think don't even appreciate that because they probably gets a lot. But look if you've had it pretty difficult than I could understand if he just wanted. Gable Neil. Thanks. That's A. Member, the the Red Robin trip where everything out flipped on me. I had to give a pretty big tip that time. Because of the leftover money that was supposedly on the card rather than leave you with like. Just a a little bit of money left on the Carter might as well just make that the whole tip. So once I gave that as the tip and they ran the car and said, there's nothing there's only three bucks on here. I had the match that the second time around when I had to pay for it otherwise trump Sarah right gave her a pretty good day. I. Said Goes the Red Robin and I gave him a Red Robin Gift Card I. Look Dog this has twenty five bucks on it. It's enough for me to get my Banzai Burger for you to get your chicken Teriyaki comes with fries. It's not like would you like fries? It comes with fries. And a tip, the drinks re tax and all that the twenty five should covered. Dirty What was supposed to be thirty? Yeah. I think we had Dr Pepper here. So that's why I was just get burgers. It comes with fries you're good should cover it. Goes gives them the car they go in the come back. I thought it was only like fifty four cents but if it was three bucks, three bucks and goes goes no, it's good. 'cause I was pretty confident I had used that. I had used it in I had it in my wallet like an idiot. So goes that I fly or yet he flies and I buy. I hey you fly. So he flew. 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365. Not Just Another Labor Force

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365. Not Just Another Labor Force

"He there's Stephen dubner pod. Swag is your one stop shop for gifts from all your favorite podcasts. Head to pod. Swag dot com slash freakonomics to shop from a variety of merch, like, socks, mugs, and pins. We've got a two piece bundle and three piece set for you or podcast loving friends. You can gift an entire line of merch all in one click, go pod. Swag dot com slash freakonomics to shop. The bundles today, that's pod. Swag dot com slash freakonomics. If you make it to the final g feel like a rockstar. You feel like you like own the world I was in love with the game in part because of how violent it was. He wants something you have to be aggressive. It was over in seventeen seconds. I got a TKO victory. And I remember thinking, oh my God. I have to do this again. The fact of the matter is superstars do win championships. Super Bowl is by far the biggest sports event in the United States draws the most viewers the most attention, and of course, the most money as we've been discussing in this hidden side of sports series. The sports industrial complex has grown tremendously over the past few decades generates roughly seventy billion dollars a year. But once you strip away, the massive TV revenues the increasingly sophisticated arenas and stadiums all the merchandise. But most people care about is watching the players play. How much do we care about the players themselves? That is a different question. Most of us profess to care about the livelihood and well being of employees in various industries does this apply to athletes or is sports too. Unlike other industries to think of its employees as just another labor force, but find out that's find out what it's like to be on the labor side of the equation. A business that often seems never more than on Super Bowl Sunday to be nothing but superstars and fat paychecks and game day glory. Yes. The National Football League generates billions of dollars. But the reality of the facts of our business are are rather. Stark that's Demorest Smith, the executive director of the NFL players association the union that represents the athletes are players play for approximately three and a half years on average. That is some careers are obviously longer in every career at some point is derailed by pain. The injury rate is one hundred percent owners tend to own teams for decades if not generations what the players have tried to do throughout history is just to make sure that they get what they believe is their fair share. According to allow the athletes we've been speaking with in a variety of sports, a fair share is hard to come by many feel. They don't have much control over their destinies financial. And otherwise, it's a interesting kind of irony in that sports is a place that we consider as close to Ameritech, Chrissy as we have. And you look at the field, and we convince ourselves that once you step out there. It's all fair, and it feels that way. That doesn't extend to to the business of sports. This is true of the biggest sports like football. The owners are people who are used to getting their way and the sports that draw smaller crowds, the athletes have no leverage. It's almost like the abuser. Abusing relationship where the abuse e gives excuses for being abused. That's exactly what's happening with regard to domestic volleyball here in the US. This can happen early in an athlete's career. Most people understand that college sports is professional sports. They generate a substantial amount of revenue and that revenue goes to lots of people who are not the labor. It can happen to athletes at their peak. The way these contracts are structured is these athletes aren't paid any money upfront. The only way they earn money is by win. Metals and it extends into retirement, which for athletes is an inherently early retirement. I think about what I'm gonna do after basketball on a daily basis. And there's a level of fear of the other side so far in this series. We've looked at the history of the sports industry. How athletes do what they do both physically. And mentally last week. We talked to team and league executives about what keeps them up at night. My nine seven and five year old don't even turn on TV. The ends of NBA games is one of my bugaboos. I just can't stand the fouls and timeouts and assist. You know, not a good in viewing experience right now. One of the commissioners main objectives is to spread the game globally. In today's episode. What it's like to be an employee in one of the most prominent and volatile industries in the world. Yeah. It's a pretty typical fighter story to be broke and trying to make it, you know. From Stitcher and productions this is freakonomics radio. The podcast explores the hidden side of everything here's your host. Stephen governor. The seeds of sports career are typically planted quite early. I was eight when I was like I decided I wanted to be professional football player. That's Dominique Foxworth. He played in the NFL from two thousand five to two thousand eleven it's weird. Like, I was young enough than to be naive enough to think, obviously I'm gonna play an NFL started getting invited to football camps. And and that's when it started to become a business when I showed up, and it was like oh bear like evaluating me by this is where the dream either continues to go forward or or dies. The very first moment I played volleyball. I fell in love with it. That's the three time Olympic gold medalist Kerri, Walsh Jennings. People talk about their ha moments in these pivotal times in their lives where you know, things are different. I had that moment when I was ten in the fifth grade. And I literally just fell in love with the dance of the game. And the learning, you know, everything that had to do with volleyball. I loved it. I was a geek for it. I was a sophomore in high school and pro scouts started showing up to my games, and that is marked to Shera. And that's when I was talking to my coaches and talking to my dad and talking to some of these scouts saying, wow, I could actually play professional baseball. How cool is that to share a wound up playing fourteen seasons in the major leagues? He was a three time all star a World Series champion, but back in nineteen ninety eight he was just a teenager with a lot of potential. I was the twelfth rated prospect in the draft that year my senior year, he could've played college baseball. I or gone straight to the pros through major league baseball amateur draft. The draft is how teams in the big American sports pick their young players. Unlike other industries, where an employee can choose the city where they wanna live and the company they want to work for in. A sports draft the employees can only work for the company that chooses them still for a player like to share. The future was bright. You know for all intents and purposes, I should've been a top fifteen pick, right? The Red Sox that you're had the ninth pick the Red Sox actually had the twelfth pick overall not the ninth to share his recollection seems a bit off. Anyway, they called me up before the draft and said, hey, we want you to take this signing bonus was one point five million dollars. When take you the signing bonus agree to this pre-draft deal will draft you and you'll get started. Well, you're not allowed to release in those days. You weren't allowed to pre negotiate a deal when when you're an amateur. And so I said, okay, you know, at a roll the dice if the Red Sox don't draft me some other team will draft me, and I'll be fine. Well, draft day comes you know, was going to be the coolest day of my life. The most exciting day of my life. Not only was I not the ninth pick. I dropped to the ninth round out. So that's like two hundred seventy drafts me Boston rents Boston Red Sox. To share a wound up going the college and played baseball. At Georgia Tech best three years met your wife there. My wife. Blast. You know, just became a better baseball player when to share entered the draft this time he was picked fifth overall by the texts Rangers. So what had happened in that first draft, according to share? Here's what the Red Sox. Did they called every single team in baseball and said to share is not sign and he's going to Georgia Tech. Don't draft them the Red Sox. We should say have disputed to share his account and claim they did nothing wrong in any case. Here's what to share it took away from that incident. This was the moment that I realized that baseball is a business. Dominic Foxworth the business side of sports became fully manifest during college. At the university of Maryland, my freshman year in college we won a c- tambien ship. We went to the Orange Bowl and loss and then immediately after my head coach got a ten million dollar extension. And that was when I was like, oh, we aren't a team we're business. And that was when the light went on for me there is perhaps no more confounding labor market in sports than the one. Who's organizers insist on saying it is not a labor market? I'm talking about big time. American college sports run by the national collegiate Athletic Association, or NCWA college sports, especially basketball, and football have also grown massively over the past. Few decades. They generate about thirteen billion dollars a year nearly as much as the NFL, but the Lieber is essentially free aside from room and board and. Some epidemic scholarships college athletes received no compensation, so where is that thirteen billion dollars going? So it goes through supporting other sports, it goes to building bigger and better facilities that goes to paying college presidents, and coaches and funding the NC double A like it goes a lot of different places. But it doesn't go to the people who are the labor on the field. And just how much is going to the coaches the Duke economist Charles clot filter looked at compensation data for various personnel from forty four public universities that have big football programs over the past thirty years. He found that full professors got a salary increase of forty three percent adjusted for inflation, not bad college presidents got an eighty nine percent increase over that time. Even better had the football coaches do over those thirty years football coaches compensation increased more than eleven hundred percent from an average of around three hundred thousand dollars to more than three point six. Million dollars a year back in nineteen eighty-five. Football coaches were earning slightly less on average than the college presidents. Now, they earn about six times as much they're athletes. Meanwhile are still playing for free. And if you want a career in the NBA or NFL, you pretty much have to play at least some college ball since both leagues have eligibility requirements if forbid athletes from going pro straight out of high school, Dominic Foxworth, again, if that was the end of the story in every player, then went on to have NFL careers, it'll be unfair. But whatever like, it's you're not gonna lose any sleep for those guys. But the vast majority of the guys and I have several teammates who because it is not considered work. They're not privy to workers compensation. They're not privy to extend it healthcare. So one of my best friends in college. He had aspirations to play professional football. He had three knee surgeries while in college. The few years ago. His doctor told him that he was going to have to have both of his knees replaced by the time. He was fifty. And he didn't play professional sports. And there's nothing that any college football team or or governing body is going to do for him in that case. And that to me is is tragic that a lot of people benefited from that. So the old fashioned argument for why this was acceptable. Was that this is like what comments call a tournament model? Right. Whenever you got a lot of people competing for the top of the pyramid. Whether it's show business or sports, or whatever, you know, the bottom of the pyramid. There's lots and lots and lots and lots of people they're willing to do whatever it takes for practically no money. It's kind of weird unpaid apprenticeship some people accept that as okay, others don't. But what strikes me especially noteworthy about sports is the degree and magnitude of sacrifice physical, and otherwise is larger I would argue than trying to become an actor trying to become a writer try and whatnot. So. So can you just talk about that component on what you think would be a better solution? I think bringing up the tournament model is is interesting because I could understand how some people would look at that and say that it fits here. And that's why this is fair. But I think as a country we decided that that wasn't fair a long time ago. There are plenty of jobs where that's true like just about every job was like. The barista at Starbucks like there are plenty of people out there who are capable of being baristas in you could probably allow Starbucks to to pick them against each other negotiate down down down down down. But that's not the case we've instituted. Minimum wages in instituted lots of other laws to protect American people or American workers from these type of like, capitalistic urges Runamuck. And the thing that's frustrating to me is we've instituted roles in professional excuse me in college. I guess don't excuse me in professional sports that happened to take place on college campuses. We institute of roles that are to the advantages of the institutions, but we are not interested in instituting any rules that are things that we accept as just kind of. Faxon fair you'll you'll be hard pressed to find anyone in our society. That's like, no less. Eliminate the minimum wage allow this this tournament model to to run them up for for low wage workers. Right. Well, the other argument though in colleges wait a minute free education for years of college. What's that worth? It could be worth a lot. But you're not even getting the same -cation as the people around you because you have to travel on Thursdays, and Fridays, and you are not allowed to do certain majors because they conflict with your schedule. I wanted to computer science major and my economic advisor was like, that course, lows gonna make it very difficult for you to make practices their labs, and blah, blah, blah, blah and three times a week during the winter session or the spring session. You have to go to five AM workouts. And and that changes your academic experience. It's they're all these things that are mandatory. Because your scholarship is year to year, and you don't have any power to negotiate with your coach and say things like I I wanna take this. So I'm not going to be able to go there. That's just not a thing that that is available. So the education that they're receiving is not the education that people think it is. The duke. Economist Charles clot felt also looked at graduation rates from fifty eight universities have big time sports programs for the general population at these schools. The graduation rate was seventy two percent for football players whose fifty six percent basketball players. Just forty two percent. This is yet another reason that makes some people question the very existence of the NCWA. Here's the assessment of the entrepeneurship. Mark Cuban who owns the NBA's, Dallas Mavericks. I think it's worthless. If you could blow it up entirely, what would you do would you have football attached to college at all? I don't mind having attached to college, but I would make an independent entity. So it would operate independently go get a job let them practice as much as they need to. If I wanted to create a band, I can pay them, and they can stay in school. They can practice together as much as they want. That's the hypocrisy. If you want to be a professional athlete, you can't practice your craft as much as you would like there's limits to coaching and playing with your your teammates. There's limits on jobs, you can take there's so many different things that are bound in stone that it just doesn't make sense for years. There's been talk about reforming the NCWA. But it hasn't changed much the commission on college basketball chaired by former secretary of state Condoleeza Rice is advocating some reforms that can be seen as pro athlete. But she also said this. Our focus has been destroying 'then, the collegiate model not to move toward one that brings aspects of professionalism into the game, which might make more sense. If some aspects of college sports weren't already at the professional level lake coaching salaries and TV audiences and the expectations of the top tier athletes. So how likely is a substantial change Dominique Foxworth is not up domestic those guys who are on the doorsteps of having professional careers. It's not really in their best interest to to stop this now, and the people who are benefiting most from it who are not on the field like there's really no benefit to the coaches because coaches salaries are inflated because they have extra money because they are not sending it to the players and the rest of the the teams who are funded by money generated by football and basketball. There's no incentive there. There's just athlete. It's who don't have much power. Foxworth as you've probably figured out by now thought through the entire athletic ecosystem, more than most people besides playing in the NFL. He's been an executive at both the NFL and NBA players unions. And he also got an MBA from Harvard so to understand the incentives. He's been describing and the transition from college to pro let's go back to Foxworth own transition. You were drafted believe two thousand five third round. Right. So what I'm looking at here. I've no idea if this is accurate you were paid for that year, including a signing bonus about six hundred sixty thousand dollars that sound about right for year one. Sure. Okay. And it was a three year rookie contract. Is that right? Yeah. It was at three year. Rookie contract with fourth year option. I believe. Okay. So it looks like your first three years paid you total of about one and a half million dollars. And then your fourth year. Then you've did become a free agent move to Atlanta. Those first years we're in Denver. So they traded me. So I went through the first three years, and then I was coming up on a contract year. And I played pretty well in Denver. And I knew that I needed to play well in this year because if you don't then the salary minimum goes up for guys after that point. So then they just go get a younger one, and you and you go on with the rest of your life. So on during week one. We're getting ready for the first week of the season in Denver. They traded to Atlanta Atlanta was a terrible football team. At that point. That was the first time when I consider go into business school skipped training camp. This team's gonna be terrible. I'm not gonna play and then I'll be out of the league. But you must had a pretty good gear because the next year. Use signed a contract with Baltimore that paid you in year. One eight million dollars. You're to nine point two three four point four. Is that sound about right? It was a four year twenty seven I think and I'm in in Baltimore news, a four year twenty seven point two million dollar contract. How much of that? Did you actually collect all of you did how how did you have it guaranteed? Even though you didn't end up playing out the whole contract. So I was on the team for three years, and then the fourth year, I got I taken out insurance policy. So I got the rest of it there. So I was fortunate that. That the knee injury happened after a sign that deal because it would have happened when I was in college or happen to your earlier, I would have been on entirely different path. So despite an injury that prematurely ended his career a things worked out pretty well for Foxworth. Meaning he got paid by the time. He was thirty. He was set for life financially at least but consider how easily it might have been different. Consider the case of Andre Ingram as the Doman Ingram spent ten seasons in the NBA's minor leagues today. It's called the G league after sponsor Gatorade. It used to be the D league for development. So I would you know, tell people that. Yeah. Played in the D league and been playing for years, they usually notice my gray hair, and, you know, wonderful coach at met that some point they always ex oh have you ever made it to the big time, and it had to tell them the same thing every time not yet that finally changed last year Ingram at thirty two years of age was promoted to the Los Angeles Lakers for the seasons last two games. Here's what happened on the firm. I shot he took in the NBA. The. Drei Greg his first try. Awesome Ingram went onto scoring nineteen points at night. My brother, and my niece had called and told me they said, hey, you are blowing up on Twitter, you blown of Instagram. You know, you're everywhere Ingram made a great impression. But still he was a thirty two year old rookie would the Lakers bringing back the following season. When we spoke with Ingram this past summer. The Lakers had just made news by signing the much coveted LeBron James to a four year one hundred fifty three million dollar deal. How would Ingram feel about sharing the court with the best player of his generation? Yeah. I mean count me along with the hundred percent of players who would love to play with LeBron. So I mean that that's a no brainer. You won't believe how many texts I got when he made the decision. So a lot of people already assuming I was going to be back with the Lakers. Like man you play LeBron and in my head. I'm like man, I hope so either that or he took year roster spot. That's the bad way of looking at it. It right. You know, some people takes me that as with unfortunately for Ingram, the Los Angeles Lakers did not bring him back. He's playing for the south bay Lakers of the G league. This year his eleventh season in the minors and he's not doing so. Well, he's averaging listen eight points a game with a career low in three point shooting. His specialty which means that for Andre Ingram. The end of his professional career is probably pretty close. I don't sit around complain about it, you know, thinking unfair. You know, I just would want four people in general who watch basketball to know the game to just know that their guys out there in the G league now and overseas and elsewhere who just know how to play the game of basketball and can play it in the hassle level, including NBA. Coming up after the break, we get into the athletes afterlife. And what makes it so hard? Well, the life of an athlete from very early in their career is dominated and regiment by people other than themselves and how some athletes try to gain leverage over ownership. You know, I'm the CEO of my life. I do not want to give the reins to my life and my success to someone else's hands. And I do not want to be kept small. It's coming up right after this. Freakonomics radio is sponsored by ZipRecruiter. You know, what's not smart? The way hiring used to be jobsites overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. Now, there's a smarter way to hire. At ZipRecruiter dot com slash freak. Ziprecruiter's powerful matching technology finds the right people for you. And actively invites them to apply. It's no wonder that ZipRecruiter is rated number one by employers in the US from hiring sites on trust with over thousands reviews and right now freakonomics radio listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash freak. That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash F. R E A K. It's easy to see professional athletes as fortunate beyond belief getting rich for playing the game, they love yada, yada. But that as we've been learning today is a very simplistic view of a complicated economic ecosystem for one thing. It's easy to focus on the handful of athletes at the very tippy top of the pyramid at the exclusion of the thousands of athletes below them. You don't make money unless you succeed at the Olympics. That's Shawn Johnson. She won one gold and three silver medals in gymnastics at the two thousand eight Olympics, how the majority of Olympic endorsements work. Is you sign an Olympic endorsement such as a Coca Cola. Mcdonald's. A Nike Adidas Under Armour before the Olympics, even starch, but the way these contracts are structured is these athletes aren't paid any money up front. The only way they earn money is by winning medals. So if you sign. Sign a deal with Nike. That's say a million dollars you go to the Olympics. And you don't win a medal. You don't earn any money. And when you're talking about thousands and thousands of athletes who have reached the pinnacle of their sport by just qualifying to the Olympics. The fact that they aren't getting compensated for their journey. That's gotten them to that point. I think is is pretty extreme extreme perhaps. But also, very similar to another population of amateur athletes, all the college football and basketball players who are very very good. But not quite good enough to have a pro career. And if you are that good and lucky then you're drafted by a protein. Remember, they choose you. You don't choose them. And now you're looking at a rookie contract with predetermined wages for your first several years if last that long if not the team can cut you loose, which means you're downside is unprotected. At the same time that you're upside is limited. You're basically stuck at a way below market paycheck for your first three years at a minimum Victor Matheson, an economist at college of the Holy Cross and president of the North American association of sports, economists is that made up for by the fact that you get to make these huge free agent contracts later. Yeah. But only if you last long enough to actually make free agency. Russell Wilson the Seattle Seahawks quarterback did make it that far. Actually, he did. So well, and I three seasons at Seattle gave him a contract extension worth nearly ninety million dollars before what would have been his final season under his rookie contract. But during those first three seasons, he averaged under a million dollars a year despite leading his team to two Super Bowls and winning one. And what if Wilson instead had played major league baseball, which he may be could have he was drafted by the Colorado Rockies and played some minor league ball. In baseball Wilson would have had to put in six years of major league service to become a free agent, interestingly the average career length major league baseball is five point six years. Also, interesting rookie NFL contracts or for four years and the average NFL career length the typical player plays about three seasons. This presents a paradox a clash of incentives the gives the leagues and teams much more leverage than the athletes as Victor Matheson sees it this also helps explain why a players strike would be very hard to organize. If I'm working for Verizon on the lines fixing. Telephone poles. I might be willing to sit out and lose my salary for an entire year. If I can get a ten percent higher salary for the next twenty years. I'm working for them, you know, those numbers kind of work out. But if you're if you're a major league baseball player if you're an NFL player. You can't afford to lose even one season because there's almost no increase in pay that could possibly justify losing one season of your very very short career. And so the owners have a huge advantage over them. They will not make that money back like it's just physically impossible Dominique Foxworth again. He was on the NFL players union executive committee during its last collective bargaining negotiation in two thousand eleven with the the length of a player's career. And how much money they could stand to make in a season. It's really not in their best interests like mathematically logically. If you go through the numbers, it's not in their best interest to actually withstand a lockout or to initiate a strike. And as a matter of fact, teams themselves have stopped striking completely all of the last major interruptions in pro sports in the United States have not been strikes, although they look like it to the fan lockout. They've been lockout see this is the owners actually going on strike and not paying the not paying the players rather than the players refusing to work. That's what happened in the two thousand eleven NFL negotiations. The NFL locked out the players for one hundred and thirty two days, although it was during the off season. So barely affected the run of play the owners and the players union finally agreed on a ten year deal which saw the players share of revenue fall from essentially fifty fifty two somewhere in the high forties. Although the players did gain some other concessions like funding for retirement and fewer practices. The most recent NBA NHL collective bargaining agreements. Have similarly resulted in a smaller share of revenue going to the athletes that said those are huge rich leagues that generate many millions of dollars even average players. It can be a lot harder to make a living in some other pro sports. Yeah. It's a pretty typical fighter story to be broke and trying to make it, you know, you're in Murphy started fighting in mixed martial arts matches in two thousand ten she's currently a top ranked flyweight fighter in the UFC or ultimate fighting championship. There was a time when I was coming up before I was signed at USC where I was traveling a lot to train I was sleeping on people's floors. I was sleeping in their guest bedrooms. I would like how sit and dog sit for people at the gym. It's hard to come up in fighting because you spend all your time training. So you don't have a lot of time to work. You know, if you're if you're trying to decide what what sport to go into man, stay away from UFC because they're making a lot of of revenues, but not much of that is going into the athletes in the big team sports. Matheson told us roughly half the revenues are designated for the players, although as we just noted that share has been shrinking a bit in the meanwhile, that share is much. Lower the amount going to the athletes. There's about ten or fifteen percent of revenues the chief operating officer of the UFC Lawrence. Epstein disputes that figure fifteen percent number. I don't I don't think that's accurate. I mean, there certainly is some fluctuation in the percentage of revenues that goes out leads. But the reason for that primarily is that we have a variable revenue stream model in our in our company, meaning the UFC distribute some of its fights via pay per view. Whereas the big team sports have bigger more reliable TV contracts still salary data for UC athletes is hard to come by since the company is privately held and the athletes are not unionized, which means there's no collective bargaining agreement. The UFC really has all the control they can cut you on one loss. They can cut you after two losses. They can keep you around for as many as they want. They can renegotiate your contract. You know, there's just. They have a lot of power that said Lauren Murphy is not much of a critic of the USC her career may not be all that lucrative. But it is a career maybe more important, it's given shape to her life sports in Murphy's case fighting it can have that affect on people, and that's part of the draw. I struggled with depression and I struggled with addiction. And I kinda just became your your typical high school dropout teenage mom in a small town. And it's just changed my life in ways that I never could have even dreamed of back then in a small town in Alaska in just her third. UFC fight Murphy earned fifty thousand dollar bonus for taking part in the fight of the night, a fairly subjective award bestowed by UFC management to the two fighters who delivered the most impressive performance on a given nights card that bonus changed my life. You know, I paid off a bunch of student loans with that. And I got out of debt and. It was really a life changing experience for me Murphy's bonus was a great stroke of fortune as for her guaranteed pay the UFC. That's a different story fighters. Get paid for two things making weight and winning figures vary, but the most Murphy's ever gotten was twelve and twelve twelve thousand dollars for making weight twelve thousand dollars for a win which obviously is also not guaranteed. What is guaranteed is that Murphy will train five to six hours a day for months, and that you have see fighters get on average just two point three matches per year. I've only made about fifteen thousand dollars in the of C so far this year. But you know, my dream was to see how far I could take this. And for me, at least, you know, if I wanted to be in a profession to make a lot of money. I would have been a lawyer or a doctor something like that. I mean, yes, I'd like to make more. I think anybody on earth wants to make. More. You know, if you ask them, do you wanna make more money? Everybody's going to be like, yes. So I I would love to make more money. I certainly think I'm worth more money might have more to do with the fact that this is a fairly new sport that may be still trying to find its way Victor Matheson again, but that's way, less than you're making elsewhere. Now, do you anticipate that changing if we were to talk in five or ten years, you have see is is making a lot of money and they've been growing really fast. Do you think that the athletes will eventually get the leverage to get that share up to thirty fifty sixty percent of revenues? Well, we did not see that happen in any of the other individuals sports Intel we had those athletes join together in some sort of important way. The athletes unions or players associations as often called negotiate not only pay scales. But also work conditions schedules health and safety and various benefits. In other words. They do what labor unions have always done, the NFL players association is in fact, a member of the AFL CIO, the big federation of unions that include the American federation of teachers and the American federation of state county municipal employees here again is damore Smith executive director of the NFL players association. I think it would be fair to say and people should understand that we are labor and the National Football League and its member teams are our management, and there is no difference in the hostility between us than there would be between management writ, large and labor writ large in America. We. Literally have engaged in hundreds of legal fights with the league. And the teams in the ten years since I've been here Smith, we should say is a lawyer who's worked in private practice as well. As the US department of Justice, the history of labor in management in the United States has been one for the most part. Where management has successfully lobbied and changed laws through through litigation that have affected a net negative for for employees. So we don't necessarily shy away from making sure that we are aggressive in the way in which we protect our players interest. Whether it's issues of healthcare issues of control issues of free speech issues of injury care issues over over money shares of revenue the league locked us out in in two thousand and eleven and that means not only cutting off the players right to to earn a living, but they cut off the health insurance for thousands of players wives, and and dozens of players wives who were expecting children during the lockup. They've. Issued and engaged in legislative action to take away our players right to medical care. And certainly we've had our skirmishes over Commissioner discipline and revenue now as I understand it. Some team owners are supporting legislation and a handful of states that would take away workers comp from injured players. I have that. Right. Yeah. We've probably had somewhere between ten and fifteen state legislature fights with Bill supported by team owners to take workers comp away from professional athletes, which is terrible. And their their argument than is what that it shouldn't be. Their argument is that they are cheap. And tell me about some of the other legal challenges you filed whether the league or legislatures whether it has to do with healthcare revenue share whatnot. You this show is no way long enough to go down that road. Considering all the issues that NFL players face and considering that they play in the richest sports league in the history of the world and have a relatively strong union. You might think that athletes in lesser sports would like to emulate them, but not necessarily I've been contacted a couple times now by people that want to unionize, and I just have a really hard time getting on board with it that again is you have see fighter. Lauren murphy. I mean, I would love to see fighters get signed to the USC and right off the bat. They're making you know, way more money like, you know, enough to live off of for an entire year. Like, I think that would be great. But I don't know if it's feasible. I don't know what the US's finances are the budgets workout or any of that works part of that mystery is intentional the UFC as we mentioned is privately owned. An investor group led by the w EMMY IMG agency bought it in two thousand sixteen for about four billion dollars. Dollars. If we unionize and suddenly W E, I m says, okay? Well, this isn't what we anticipated when we bought the sea. So we're going to have to cut out a bunch of divisions. So that we can afford to pay the fighters that we have left, and so they get rid of the less popular divisions say and now you're getting rid of the fringe weight classes in the women's weight classes and stuff like that will now have gone from you know, maybe making a smaller portion of the pie to making nothing. Murphy situation highlights one of the common problems for any sort of collective action whether in sports labor or anywhere, the people with the most to gain the Lauren Murphy's of the world, usually don't have much leverage. They can just be replaced. The superstars meanwhile do have leverage, but they often have little incentive to push for collective action. One exception was tennis champion, Billie. Jean King who in nineteen Seventy-three threaten to boycott the US open unless it awarded equal prize mu-. Money for women and men the US Tennis Association met her demands king also helped found the Women's Tennis Association, which push for equal prize money in all the major tournaments and helped turn tennis into one of the few sports in which the women's competition is arguably as high profile as the men's there's a movement currently underway in beach volleyball to gain more leverage for the athletes again with the female superstar leading the charge for so long. It's been one top athlete raising their hands saying that's not enough. And if one top athlete boycott, who cares, you know. And that the divide and conquer strategy happens. All the time that again is Kerri Walsh Jennings. One of the most decorated and high profile players in beach volleyball history, the athletes have no leverage because the athletes aren't unified. And we've been told for so long that your sport a small, this is what you deserve. This is as good as it gets in two thousand seventeen Walsh Jennings was part of a group of players that tried to negotiate a new deal with the AVP the association of volleyball. Sessions which runs the biggest beach volleyball tour in the country with eight events year. It is not a big moneymaker for the athletes the top player last year made I think just under just over thirty eight thousand dollars, we pay for training pay for coaches, we pay for travel, which pay for hotel, and that was a top player in the country like many sports leagues and tours the operates in a way that might make you think monopoly, so they own you for three hundred sixty five days for possibly eight days of work that you're probably not even maybe if you lose your first to your maybe making five hundred bucks. And so it's just the athletes are being held hostage. Basically a gun was held the player's head saying if you don't sign this, we're gonna fold the tour. There was no other alternative. We got calls the night before the deadline girls. Crying saying Kerry, we want to sit with you and fight with you. But I can't pay rent unless I play in this tournament next week in the end Walsh Jennings refused to sign the contract. But. She's sympathetic to the players did sign. Oh for sure. And I understand that no other choice and some people never agreed with us. They're like, you know, I believe this is it, and we should be grateful. That ADP is giving us these limited opportunities. And that's totally fine. I'm the CEO of my life. I do not want to give the reins to my life and my success to someone else's hands. And I do not want to be kept small as one of the stars of her sport wall strandings had the leverage to walkaway to her. It wasn't just about the money. She feels the AP doesn't have a vision for growing the sport in a way that will benefit the athletes. I want in October or November of twenty sixteen and set can you please lay out the next four years? We have this contract coming up, please give me your plans for growth for all these things. There was euro plans for growth they were going to go away from TV. It was going to be an exclusive contract for eight events maybe up to ten by twenty twenty. They would not increase the prize money that wasn't in their business model. They said so she started alternate tour called P, fourteen forty. Replant form and fourteen forty for the number of minutes in a day, Walsh Jennings. Wants to push people to use every minute wisely. We knew in creating p fourteen forty that. If we were just to be another viable property that hosts events, we would not be sustainable business. And so it's competition, health and wellness personal development entered entertainment. So we are a festival we're not available tournament. We are full blown festival one big problem. A lot of players that Walsh Jennings would like to play in her events are under an exclusive AVP contract. So ADP has eight events a year if you wanna play anywhere else you have to ask for dispensation and everyone who's ask for dispensation to play in our vents, even though we scheduled around their events. We're not conflicting at all. We're in their off-season. They've been told no Walsh Jennings is forty years old fairly ancient for competitive athlete. She's preparing now for the twenty twenty summer Olympics in Tokyo, which will likely be her last if nothing else. Her new startup league is a great project to be involved in. When her playing days are finally over. There is a famous saying every athlete dies twice once when they draw their last breath, the other when the hang up there's a point at which they'll stop doing what they've been doing since they were kids the thing. That's driven them an often given shape to their lives. It's inevitable, and it's dreaded a sort of living afterlife. I think about the end meaning the specific moment that it ends. I think about the moment I tell my wife. I think about the moment I tell my family. I think about those moments that's JJ Rettig who's playing in his thirteenth season in the NBA currently with Philadelphia seventy Sixers, and it's it's anxiety inducing. It's it it. Sometimes I actually if I'm having a dark moment, and I. Think of that moment, I cry like, I I think about what I'm gonna do after basketball on a daily basis. And there's a level of fear of the other side, and my hate to say this. But so much of my identity in any professional athlete is wrapped up in your sport. You know, since I was eight or nine years old like I've been a basketball player. It's what I've done. I think that's a question that a lot of fighters really struggle with Lauren. Murphy of the UFC is thirty five years old fighting kind of becomes your whole identity. And because it takes so much of our time. It's our entire lives. It can be hard to move on this entwined identity, personal and professional is something that Sudirman catas- has been studying for years. I'm a professor of sociology at Columbia University in New York Makati tries to understand how individuals operate within groups in all sorts of settings it my my method is to spend as much time with groups Dr. People get to know the world a little bit. I started with street gangs, boy longtime ago about thirty years ago gun traffickers and prostitutes people who are doing all sorts of legal things. And since then I spent a couple of years at the FBI, and that's my that's my chosen profession in life. Spend as much time with people and get their story. He's had a lot of success getting their stories, but professional athletes are particularly tricky. It's a little difficult for me to just show up on the sideline and put a hoodie on and pretend that a member of the team. So I have to create opportunities to observe one such opportunities came via program. He developed to teach athletes often toward the end of their careers about business skills or philanthropy. This let him see up close how they were adjusting to the afterlife while the life of an athlete. Elite from very early in their career is dominated and regimented by people other than themselves. This kind of all encompassing controlled setting has a name in sociology, it's called total institution. An example of a total institution would be a prison. So your your day structure for the moment, you get up. They tell you where to go with the Wendy one to shower and so on. Thank attach was interested to see how athletes having spent so much time in a total institution could adjust to a more fluid setting like an office. He found there were some surprising advantages a lot of professional athletes. I find handle interpersonal conflict, very well. And they are used to it. They are used to being told that they didn't perform well, the need to perform better they need to work better in the team than to listen better all sorts of things that many of us are including me are very fearful of an office setting. We're going to get reviewed. We're gonna get assess is often done by Email at late at night. And these folks are really really good just having someone walk up to them or going to somebody and not having it out, but just getting past whatever's in between and blocking them, but this upside Venkatesh discovered has a downside most of us, non former athletes aren't accustomed to having someone get in our face like that Venkatesh recalls. One former football player he calls them. Derek who was working in sales at an investment firm. He noticed that on the floor the Renault open spaces he was used to locker rooms that he was used to not having a lot of privacy. And it was difficult for him to to work in a team setting. When what he was supposed to do was to us telecommunications or Email to make appointments or to reach out. And instead he would just be going down knocking on doors really hard going into offices crossing boundaries of and people just got really scared because here's this very big. Cook coming at them, and for Derek there was actually the opposite that when people were closing doors or people were sending him emails. He felt like that was impersonal, not polite. That was not affective. Why not why don't we just saw the problem immediately and move forward? So he had to go through a little bit of training, and you can imagine that that's not part of the normal on boarding that a that a company might do. Transitioning to this living afterlife can present all sorts of challenges. Studies of former NFL and NBA players even the ones who've made a lot of money show. They are grotesquely prone to bankruptcy. And remember, these are the lucky ones who made it. But the demands of their profession can make it really hard to have time to acquire real world skills. There's also the long term health consequences of playing competitive sports. A recent study of athletes from Indiana University found that by middle age they were twice as likely as non athletes to have health problems, including chronic injuries that affected their day to day activities. But even if you make it into middle age with your health and with your finances intact. They're still the risk of a full blown existential crisis. I mean, most people's journeys are so much longer that when they do succeed they like die a few years after something, you know, Dominique Foxworth again. It's an interesting thing to happen to somebody at this age, it feels like more of a midlife thing and for athletes. It's a unique thing successful athletes is unique thing that in your twenties thirties, you're like. Now, what part of it is missing the action Lauren Murphy thinks about the people she trains with I was surrounded by a team, and I had never experienced anything like that before in my life. We all had this thing in common where we wanted to compete, and we all wanted to do. Well, and we supported each other in that. And when you bleed, and sweat and cry with somebody every day, you know, you get to be pretty close to. There's also the fear that you will never be this good at anything again or as relevant JJ Rettig. Look, the reality is you have a lot more power a lot more juice a lot more relevancy when it says your name, and it says active NBA player versus your name retired NBA player. So me as a person nothing will have changed five years from now. But I I won't have active NBA player next to my name. The thought that cross your mind is like I'm really good at at basketball. I've done it a high level for a long time and have had success and provided me a very nice living. And like what if I try something else? And I'm just awful at it. I I feel like I'm as prepared as anyone for the other side of it. And it still scares me. Dominic Foxworth thought he was pretty prepared to he and his wife had a couple of kids. He didn't know exactly what he wanted to do other than keep winning. I went to business school because I was like all right now, I'm going to keep competing like I'll go to best business school. And then I got there and out surprise with like how much mushy soft classes that we have that was about. Our feelings, and integrity and all that stuff. And I do remember one professor said that. In wasn't to me directly. It was just to the class. But it felt he was talking to me directly. And what he said something to the fact of the operating system that used to to get here may not be that rating system that you need going forward. And like that resonated with me because I feel like that's definitely true for me. But I don't know they don't just like release updates for human. Modify mop rating system is is is slower more challenging process Foxworth thought he lake being chief operating officer of the NBA players union in New York. My wife was pregnant with our third child, and which she was not feeling good. And I was getting up at like six thirty to ride the subway to to work with a bunch of other people who aren't happy about where they were going to work, and I remember banking like my happy. I have enough money that I don't have to be unhappy for fun. He started writing about sports. Now, he writes end does broadcasting for a variety of ESPN outlets. I went to business school in part because I fancy myself as a smart person, who's more than an athlete. And so like there's parts of me. That's like embarrassed that I like right about sports and talk about sports. But then there's parts of me. That's like, this is awesome. Get to pick up my kids from school and take them to school. It's not that. Like, oh, my life is boring. It's like am. I doing the right thing am I doing the best thing. I can with this fortunate situation that I'm in what also like excessive. I think is a feeling of loneliness, honestly, which and it's not like I've three kids in my wife, and I'm not like a loan, obviously, a loved them and have fun with them. But throughout my life. I have. Have been almost myopically focused on a goal which being focused on that goal. I gave me purpose. And I'm sure I'm going to butcher the native quote, but it's something to the effect of when a man has a why he can bear almost anyhow. And like, I was I didn't I don't drink. Now. Never drank in my life. I never smoke. We like I was singly focussed on doing everything every decision. I made was like all right. I'm gonna get closer to go. And I my people I was close with in high school like those aren't my friends anymore. People close with in college like not really my friends anymore. And then at thirty five I'm in DC where my wife has. A bunch of family and friends friends that she's been close with since they want a second grade. And like, and I'm like. I don't really have that. So certainly don't like feel sad or anything. But these things that I am becoming more aware of now. I feel like I'm in a perpetual state of transition, which is interesting and uncomfortable at the same time. Thanks to Dominic Foxworth and all the other athletes we heard from today and throughout our hidden side of sports series. Also the team and league officials scholars and everyone else if you want to hear my full conversation with Foxworth it was a long one fascinating will be publishing that soon. Meanwhile, coming up next time on freakonomics radio. My name is rugged rodgen. He was one of the very few people who essentially predicted the financial crisis. It was good. 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UFC Fight Island 6 Preview Show

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UFC Fight Island 6 Preview Show

"You're listening to vox media long has network. While this trip to fight Allen for the UFC has produced a lot of outstanding moments I. Think it's fair to say that a lot of people have these final two cards of this trip highlighted on their schedules. Of course, you have C two, fifty four goes down next weekend but tomorrow night it is UFC fight islands six in Abu Dhabi and it looks on paper to be an absolutely perfect leading. To that pay per view card especially when you look at this fascinating featherweight main events between Brian Ortega and the Korean Zombie as we wish you a happy Friday everybody and welcome to the UFC fight island six preview show for fighting dot Com i? M My CAC in the full tripod is here once again is being joined by Jose. Young's who is in our Dhabi and Alex k Lee the principal. And Jose the fight you've been looking forward to for years the fight that you believed would never happen nearly here, Brian Ortega versus the Korean Zombie and I get it Jose. It's twenty twenty. You've talked about this on many a preview show that the rule of thumb and twenty twenty is until these fighters get inside the octagon nothing is official but can we invoke some sort of positivity here for Pete's sakes either way at least paint us a word picture as to why this fight has been a top of your anticipated fight list for years now. Share Ortega Takeaway in. I don't think I. Saw Brian Takeaway I saw shaved. Bald headed shaved man Wayne. That's Brian. Take I know. To be fair, he did shave his head. So he's no longer the long locked Chicano fighter that we've all come joy watching. Now a bald headed man with insane fighting skills. He did say he was GONNA to donate lots of love so good on him but your question, I feel a little bit of positivity considering they both weighed in they did their job. But. We've seen people fall out that have waited. We've seen people fall out that has stared down. We've seen people fall out that got their hands wrapped. So it's not all this fight isn't happening. So they're inside the acting Johnson, but let's put into perspective why I'm so excited about this fight I don't think either one is ever been in a bad fight even when they lose, it's an unbelievable fight Korean Zombie? I. Think at one point in time was the most exciting fighter in all combat sports I mean he was like the original just engage you just going out there putting on fight of the year against the Garcia getting the first twister ever in in in the UFC second knockout. dislocates his shoulder, pops it back into place fight of the year and into Dr. Show, against. A A comes back after two years gets a first round knockout, and then just again is one of the most sires planner earth than Brian. Ortega's that same way like even as lost to Max, which is one sided it was just his he was too tough for his own good and his body gave out on the doctor. Stopped it. So I don't think he's ever been in a bad fight actually is fighting my on one of. The more underrated fights of the last few years in terms of action, and then of course, he has that amazing knockout against click leader and Frankie Edgar I. Think he might have been one of the first fighters to stop. We'd and I'm and Frankie Edgar mistaken of course, Koreans did the same thing to Franken and then he had that amazing Guillotine Win Over Cup squad, and so both men have basically been circling they're trying to be. Unofficially they just been one up in the next person over and over and over and over, and they are just. High octane fighters with just absurd. ABSURD ABSURDLY HIGH LEVEL MARTIAL ARTS SKILLS And I think these these to ever be champion they might. They might still have the skills to be champion. I don't say Pencil fighting for fight of the fight of the night. Vomiting Pencil. Brian takeovers versus Crane Zombie, and for fight of the night if it happens that is. All right. So a little bit of positivity and speaking positively let's go to AK because we have Brian Ortega a man who's looking bounceback back from his first professional loss to Max Holloway nearly two years ago. If you watch media scrum, he's a man with a different outlook on life. On the sports made a lot of changes in lieu of this fight schorr there's a no contest mixed in with finished all six. You could save finished all of of his UFC wins taken on the Korean Zombie who since he's returned from the mandatory military service three and one three first round finishes the one loss is that crazy one year? Rodriguez. Where he was a second away from winning that fight and as Dana, White said even Alexander Bulkin off ski said, the winner will likely be next for a shot at the featherweight title. So when you combine these kinds of stakes. With a high level matchup like this, the way Jose just described it i. mean this is a recipe for a memorable main event is a not. We're talking about this any fight Could Challenge. Zhang and way Joon Zhang Jaw. For, fight of the year, this is it I. I know the award is pretty much sealed. That's one of the that is one of the greatest place in. This fight has storyline stylistic matchup. Listen just listen to the bonus accolades. Okay I know. You'll see bonuses aren't grace gays or anything, but I think they're pretty solid indicated how studying these two guys are brighter Arteta his last four fights fight of the night against Max, Holloway performance tonight for the knockout of Frankie Edgar performance of the night and the night for his fight with Cub Swanson and then fight of the night with Henna Tomohiko Chanson joung has fought eight times. And has eight total bonuses. He also there's one fight he didn't get a bonus for, but then he made up for that by doubling up in the. Fight, which is again, almost forgotten classic at this point only because he and he's just had so many exciting. They say all the time that so and so was never had a boy. Of Diego Sanchez. Never had a boring fighting Klay Guidos never had a fight and even in their primes that wasn't true that you could pick like one or two points. This is not hyperbole I. If you look at their resumes out I, don't overtake or the Korean Zombie have been the might that was either not exciting or had a memorable Finnish. It's it's crazy. So this is as high level matchup between featherweight. We said the same thing when Ortega fought. For the title of policy that was one of the one of the highest level. Championship you've ever seen this is about non championship. This is highs and this might be the most highly talented, highly skilled. Close Non Title Fight of the year I say that is coming up tomorrow I'm sure but I think about correct me but It's up there I mean I I don't know how I don't know how much better you can get without being a title fight. It's it's pretty incredible. Let me follow up with you AK because we can all agree that this division with the town on the roster super super deep but I mean. Just, to kind of build on what you said outside of the title fight rematch. If you invoking Holloway I, mean, we haven't seen a fight featuring anybody in the top five at all in two thousand and twenty. So this huge all around. So I guess my question is keeping the build up the anticipation all these fun intangible things that we like to look at heading into these fights is this the best featherweight fight of the year even with the title fight that happened to you have to fifty one. Yeah it's gotTa be right. It's gotta be an even if one of these guys goes onto fight off ski, I don't think it'll be a highly anticipated as matches and it's also a style thing because I think. I I think is a great champion but I think he's shown his more a little more methodical style that isn't always crowd-pleasing. I think it's great but it definitely isn't always crowd-pleasing these two Ortega. Our chests are just made for each other I mean yeah. You could say Abby has the advantage on the feet. Has. Advantage on the ground. But both guys have shown has shown skills in both areas are taking has a ton of power on the beat. His Dad is still a work in progress. You know for a guy who's a specialist? He has power I mean he took Frankie head off he finished Klay. Guido. Easy, to knock out and young John I mean. Yes knockouts. Amazing. But I mentioned that doesn't worry that when he supported by submission. Ever seen so very comfortable on the ground the twister I totally didn't even mention the twister. One of the one of the time was the only twister submission in UC history. So you couldn't have a better style matchup as far, and even if I'm sure if you want to see an explosive finish this one, if it goes five rounds, you know it's just been insane fi routes is classic classic five around so I've got I don't know how much more free pr we can do for the people go be honest with people are GonNa Watch this one this say. Jose like sort of alluded to Brian Tak- has made some significant changes in his life. He's obviously had his issues in the past with your Sada the incident with Jay Park although it was a huge story that of a head scratcher but it seems like he's in a very good place as focused as mindset. All seem to be on point here and Jose. You've been a part of so many of these Media Day scrums of this point and I could say from. Listening to fighters and doing so many interviews over the Air I've many times come out of conversations having a completely different outlook on a fight than I did heading into it after hearing some of these comments and in conversations. So after the media scrum with Ortega, do you feel like his comments during the Media Day? That sort of deep look he took inside himself being in the moment the way that he was as that change your outlook on this fight at all. A little bit it bates, it basically makes me just wonder what Brian Ortega is going to show up I, mean his his words where like I hope I would as good hospitals because we're both gonna need it. So you know he's expecting just an all all-out bloodbath in there, but he said himself, he just has burn a lot of bridges. It's very reminiscent of Montemayor economies media, scrum like the very week before like one week ago when he he pinpointed the exact moment he knew we had to make. Changes and it was a very emotional press conference and we saw he went three rounds with Edson Barboza, very entertaining fight. So I I know Brian. Oh, taking is going to be a good fight regardless of what's going in going on in his life but you said he found that love again for like remember when we used to fight for free for fifty or one hundred dollars and he loved it but he just loved it and then he just lost his way and now he's he's refound that love of fighting. So I I can't favored careens army going into this fight I. think it's much more and I want to say Bronco tickets words fifty fifty but it's making it just makes me wonder what type of fighter we're going to get from Brian take like is he going to be more methodical come out of the game plan? have. Better. Have better striking and actually look for submissions and knockouts rather than just going out there guns blazing would no game plan? So it just it raised more questions of his of his game plans more than anything but I'd still slightly favor Korean Zombie and what should be still be epic fight I was GonNa ask you if you can even emotionally pick for this fight Jose. While we're under the assumption that this fight is going to happen I. Think obviously I think we're all in agreement that the Korean Zombie will probably have the edge standing up. Brian Take boxing is great but it's not it. This. You got to have everything well round and I just think Korean zombies is much more polished, special Ed China's Corner, his longtime straight and coach. I think it was one of the more underrated coaches and all of them and may especially in the striking department is really turned a lot of fighters around both in the lab minute fight ready in Arizona. So the Koreans I give the edge in the STANDUP Department of course, every fight starts standing Brian. And the Korean Zombie are phenomenal on the ground. It's two of the absolute best. But Crane Zombie like like AK said, gets the twisters, the chokes just these real unorthodox emissions and they're they're mostly attacking style like when he got imported with the Dr Sochi was off a flying knee there was a flying knee into the fence into. Darshan. which honestly like that that's my favorite of all time like if I'm watching if I WANNA watch fights watch that fight just in general it's it's my absolute favorite from beginning to end and Brian, take it is much more reactionary when it comes to his submission cycle snatch up the natural snatch. A The limb or something like he he doesn't always look for the submission but when the open is there, he takes advantage of his opponents mistake because he is so good. So if the grins Ambi- like makes a mistake early especially when they're dry and Brian snatch solar a limb or a neck or something it's GonNa be a rough night in a stripped you jitsu competition obviously favorite Brian Ortega black in Greece Jujitsu, and probably one of the better. Representative. Of the of the grappling department especially in the featherweight division. I just we've seen it a million times you get to fires with a high level grappling usually turns into a standup fight Bronco, ticket dinner really show much grappling or wrestling against. Max Holloway. So I, have to lean towards the Korean Zombie I. Don't know if we get to finish I. Just think he's striking better the hits harder and that's honestly what it comes down to. What is your? What is your pick? You know a lean towards Ortega I I had the opportunity to to speak extensively with Arteta go ahead of this fight. So maybe there's a little bit of a bias there as far as just saying all the right things pushing all the right buttons and and kind of following the narrative that we wanna see when fighters coming off of their first loss because he does. Strike me as someone who who needed that loss to to learn a lot of things put things in perspective whatever you WanNa throw out there and that he'll he'll become stronger at the lawsuit learn more from our losses than our defeats, etc. But it could go either way. It's tough to say so you know one of the things he talked about a lot was how Just fundamentally, he knew how flawed he was. He was saying like man I finally realized I should probably Fight a little bit defensively. You know I can't just march four and be that warrior and just brawl and but. That style is what made him so successful so you have to wonder if making any kind of adjustments once you reach this level once they're this level already making those kind of justice can be scary maybe takes you to the next level. Maybe you Kinda lose that that magic that again by the dance and made you a world title contender, we don't know I'm leaning towards it being a good thing I. I think that if you can make state adjustments this days then good on you but until he's in the cage, we don't know we don't know how effective will be, but he is saying all the right things and so in that sense I I like what I'm hearing. I think we'll see. More focused. More I don't know say more technical maybe just a little more thoughtful, which I think is what you need to be when you're fighting someone like like Korean Zombie and if it breaks down a dogfight, then Ortega knows how to do that for sure he's he has east he does not shy away from those at all and then it comes a little bit more of a fifty fifty but I I dislike I like our chances I think. He could submit. Dombi, and when I say some zombies not gonna tap I mean he's going to choke him unconscious. I. Think we're like. With Zombie United put this Zombie and the dirt. He's not I. Don't see him tapping out to anything. Man In motion, the the air horns for that for that take care that was fire my manned. Speaking. Of cliches the absence makes the heart grow fonder of course, but it also creates a little bit of mystery to because we haven't seen. In quite some time nearly two years. So what does he done over these last two years? He's been recovering obviously he's. Trying to improve himself and I will say that are taking scrum did change my outlook a little bit. He seems to be integrate focused place. So that definitely weighs on my mind quite a bit that said it hasn't changed my pick overall I'm still going. To get it done, how does it I'm GonNa try and guess, but I think Zombie gets it done in a I'll say very spirited matchup at one, hundred, forty, five pounds going. It's got to be really good I can't wait to see it. It's going to happen tomorrow night co main event big one for the Flyweight Division Jessica Androgen enters one twenty five to face Caitlyn Kagan drage. Of course, the former women's strong way champion she may have found herself path to another title shot if the Dominos Fall into place here that's my opinion k especially with Cynthia Calvia withdrawing from her Lauren Murphy next weekend at UFC two, fifty four if just drudge beats Caitlyn Kagan tomorrow night and does so at least somewhat impressively is she next in line to fight the winner of Shevchenko and Maya Yeah. I mean look method matters. And if she picks up a big first round, second round knockout, just one of the you know some one hitter quitter. Knockout that really only Jessica entourage may be amended Nunez. It's got the the the best fighters in the AFC there's very few that have that one stroke knock up our holly home maybe on a good day. But we know androgen does shown it at one fifteen. I don't think it will have the power will have much issues translating to one, thousand, five and twenty five really feels like the classmate she should have been been all along despite the great success she had at one fifteen. You know we always say like we always encourage fighters if they can avoid that way cut and still of be of reasonable size for certain weight class and that's the way class they should fight and so. I. Don't know if one fifteen ruled out but I think one twenty five is really good for her and I think we'll see how good it is tomorrow against your Kagan again that's really she gets that big win and. Without hesitation I can say the knockout gets her that shot against Chango I. Think it's a fight that when when entourage was the champion you know people thought that'd be cool. Super Fight One day well with no longer be a super fight. We know there's not as many pieces to be moved around now she really just has to get a pilot real win again or convincing win against one opponent and this can happen I mean even before the end of the year I but I imagine checkup would want to fight again at some point. what do you think Jose? I mean she is GonNa Find Maya next month or that's that's up. Laura Murphy is welcoming a newcomer I did speak the Lauren yesterday said that. If all goes well according to plan she wants to compete next Saturday getaway and then fight Calvia before the year is over so she wants to cement her place as one of the top contenders, not the top contender heading into twenty, twenty one but Kenan drudge sort of take all this all this momentum away from the rest of this division if she gets a win tomorrow night. I think it would really depend like on how she went. It's like if we leave Saturday night or Sunday morning for in in in where I am, it would really if everyone is say like man, I would love to see Jessica drudge fight Valentina Shevchenko then of course, that's fight that we should especially with Lauren Murphy not fight. Cynthia. Copy. If if Lauren Murphy gets her wish as she told you and wins on Saturday Sunday morning and then fight Cynthia Calvillo maybe on the card as Valentina if that if that's possible, maybe the December pay per view than it has to be her but stuff has to play first because it's just impossible to plan. In Two thousand, twenty like I've said, I asked a lot of fighters like, is it hard to even come up with a game plan fight camp knowing you might. You might go through two three opponents before you even step into the octagon so. Hey if Lauren Murphy wins. Impressively I think she's done enough to get that to get that title. Shock is actually Ben Competing in this white class dodge goes out there and does what she did to rose what she did to Carolina Carolina cocaine, which I think a lot of people forget that knockout is one of the greatest knockouts I've seen in women's in a women's fight especially Astrid Straw way like we don't see. A lot of one punch knockouts a below one, thirty five, and that was just a distraction in Dallas. So if she pulls us on that, which I don't think she will because that's not what she's not GonNa pick and win but if she does that to kind of chiquet again, yes sign me up for her versatility Shevchenko because I think we're also all agreement that Valentine will most likely be Jennifer Meyer. Of course, k. like Jose just touched on, this will not be an easy test against Kaelin UK tomorrow night she's six and three in the AFC. She does have the loss of Shevchenko earlier this year the others were very close split decisions too Jessica I want against Liz. In the CAR Moosh. One was at one, hundred, thirty, five pounds, which is weighing above were Caitlin CFC and throughout original days very tough. Customer certainly has the style has a significant height advantage that gets like eight inches. She's got a four hundred, five inch reach advantage. So there's a lot to like here if you're playing the pony. So to speak on Caitlin Keagan what sticks out to you when you look at this, the XS and os of this. first of minor crashes, like I believe she's at seven and three in the AFC. That's Cool. Story, wrote. Georgia's. No. I don't want. Jose's tells I think when we do the picks I think he's going to break down a little bit more but I agree while on trash kind of has the name valley maybe a little bit more name value and as the has the champion pedigree, of course, one fifteen. CAIG IN A. Lot of the characteristics that have foiled on in past. So if people want to look at, you know the people that android has lost to. It's easy to draw parallels. So so for sure this is not by any means I o on charges opportunity to tell shot. It's so far that. Very, much far from guaranteed. But that said. The the one king, she doesn't have the power I think the finishing ability of rose numbers. Or even you on. Jayjay. Is, not, considered as much a fight venture either. But there's a certain snap power to punches that. There's an effectiveness there that I don't know people see the same thing that you. So I won't dive too deeply into the pick but I do think it's a more competitive than people think but I am leaning towards entourage we can. We can elaborate more on that. We'll get to our actual. Making our picks. All Right Jose let's make the picks and by the way AK. was correct seven and three in the AFC. Forgot the Lauren Murphy fight at the beginning of her career about. Thank you they George. Burns. That's. George. Costanza. Who Do you like this? College Kagan. Pretty, she's not spectacular not spectacular fight into comes to highlight reels, which used a solid overall technical fighter and she has John. Her in her corner of course of course. So He's absolutely he's one of the like the best Jujitsu. Ju To coach doesn't get much better than that I changed she changed the Mark Henry's team. So she's obviously you're standing on point. So the work is there like like you said the height advantage there she said in the Media Day. The high differential between her and on drugs would be like if she fought John Jones like that's the equivalent of it like if she's stood next to John Jones, that's what draws. Looks like staying to her when I heard the God damn like. The can't be that ridiculous Canada and then they stared down and you just see how long and and. Slender. Count. UK kagins limbs are and then on garage just like tank with muscles and no neck and everything I'm like Oh. I think this is going to be a rough night for dropped especially because people just say, no, just take take. Down you could mess up there. That's Valentine and did this Napa County Kagan is super tall. You GotTa get through her reach I and she's actually pretty good on the ground. So I think it's GonNa be a long night for on drugs. I think it'll be similar to the Alana fight where. Basically capture arrange for five rounds in Dallas. In route through a decision, she has the lost of Rosie obviously be rose, but I think she was losing. Losing to rose until she dropped her on her head I think that's fair to say, and then all their other it's just been to bigger fighters longer fighters. So I just think everything going into this fight favors college kagan outside of the power. So on drudge gets a hold of her end, just grinds are into the ground. I can just powers through their submission defense or just connects in a loads of the barrage of strikes. Then she could win I just don't see that happening. So I favour Kagan in this just that's GonNa be a three round. Decision. Win. Which is fine because that's what Kagan does. I think she's a slightly. A step ahead of her in one hundred, twenty-five vision a leaning androgen. Why? Man. Is entrenched five, foot one she build a five foot one. Saying this and chiquet against five foot nine. Yes. That's what they're bill. That guys. I'm going to give you my analysis here. That's eight inches of difference. I'm going to be a little pro. They say there's no place for analytics in A. Little. Analytics for you keep five foot nine is eight inches taller than five foot one. We can double check that match later Jose's double checking the mouth and his calculator right now. I I knew that can't genius bigger plumbing until I saw them, and then until I just looked at their respects I think that Josh was short. I still. Gosh I, stick my pick now, they don't have to join you. I. Honestly, it's it's the danger element that. On judge had almost no female fighter outside of a noon Yes can bring in any way class I just so has such a level of explosiveness and ability to finish that no one can match. Now again, is that something that you can implement against these long range fighters without them making mistake like a UNICEF might have done in their first fight I don't know. I I agree it is very difficult getting inside an opponent like Kagan is just you know again like Oh take down single leg whatever really hard really hard I think on drives when you really frustrated I think you're going to see. How mature she's become. As the fighter 'cause it because that will be the this is this is a mental game as much as it is a physical and skillset game. This has mental because she's GonNa have a Lotta time fight we're just she will not be able to lay a hand on king literally will not be able to lay hands on her. Can work through those moments and find her find the timing. I think she can find finish. So I do think that this fight will not go the distance and because I. Had to go with on-drives I think drives them off. So I, don't feel great about tell you but I'm going to go stick them address Mick. Calendar Kagan has six inch reach advantage. Sixty. Two to sixty eight, and then that's not even counting legs if they don't do the leg reach thing. More. It's interesting because when you think of power puncher like Jessica androgen usually equated to survive whether the storm early, you can outlast someone like that. But we've seen android short evolve over the years like heading into like A. Fire like all right. If JJ can just like get out of the first rounder to she should be able to pick her apart but we saw on the in the Rose Nabi Yunus fight that eventually she's a little more patient. If you give her an inch, she'll take and she'll do devastating things because she hammered rose Nami Yun is in that third round really turn the tide there. So what I think will end up happening is I think I think UK. Game, we'll be able to use her her her reach, those advantages you has with the height and all that for a couple of rounds. But at some point in this fifteen minutes of action and Roger's GonNa, get her hands on Kaelin's UK and it's going to happen. So cancale cake in would stand that storm at the end of the fight. I think the third round is going to be super interesting and it will determine everything that being said I think you. Can Take it. I. Think she'll be able to I think she will earn a decision but man, as you can have to fight for down the stretch, that's what I think but it's going to be a good fight. Main card fills out with modesto costas versus Jimmy crude. That's a good one zero five big step up for the former cage warriors light heavyweight. Champion Claudio Silva and the James Krause, and then Thomas Olmedo returns for the first time since you have to twenty when he lost a rob font in January two, thousand eighteen, he's GonNa Fight John Martinez really solid main cards really interesting preliminary fights as well a lot of under the radar options Jose so what sticks out to you whether it be fighter or fights Obviously matteis cameras joining the UFC. And Man. I've been waiting for him to be in the AFC for quite a while and the fact that he his signing was overshadowed by Michael Chandler. Was a little disappointing for me not because I, like Michael Channel because I just wanted to see the fanfare that may be hardcore anime fans would would just shower him when it comes to when they announced that signing but then Michael Chandler sides not soon after and game was quickly forgotten in the lightweight division but my God is the Line Way Division. So exciting right now, obviously A. Jillian Robertson's fighting a friend of the as side Trans Tours indeed Thomas yes. I think. She's tied or broken the record for most emissions in women's MMA in the you have ethics each other tighter broke ground rouses record. She just got her black belt from Dean Thomas. So she's been on cloud nine. Now she was very very nurse her Media Day but she got through it Pulling out of Italo is not concerned. Her with her black belt or new blackball or ground skills because in her words, I dream a black every day. So it is what it is. So obviously, the Jimmy Crucify, you said the talents, I made a fight So all around exciting fight all from top to bottom Abbasi the main event is unbelievable I. Still Think last week's was slightly better in terms of talent on the card but. You stigmatised camera on any card and is GonNa Watch so that he would be. A. One fighter to watch it it's going to be him which means he's probably going to have a bad fight because I've cursed him because this card is cursed. I don't know if you curse them or the fact that you use your name in talked about yourself and the third person may have cursed him. It is what it is. You're. Yes Ak what stands out to you in the under the radar department. Guys look who is most likely to land a walking Buckley like caught ends Aguirre Kit Ko. I'll tell you who it is. John. Phillips are John Phillips. I know anyone who's seen him find the US's Afar probably not impressed but he came in with as the reputation as it's like insane narcotics. He one he has won the USDA is like a suburb twenty second knockout. So there's that they re planning that on his highly all they want the rest of it is. Taken down and submitted. Which I hope genuine park does not try to do because Jeff Park he can. He can grapple a little bit. So if you want to be smart and he wants to try and win the fight yes he may want mix take downs try and go for Mr John Villes but he wants to be a hero if he wants to be a man. You Stand Bang John Phillips. Bang, and you roll the dice and maybe you pay the price we don't know. But you you you you just that's what I want to say so but top to bottom. On this car that doesn't have potential side of there'd be an exciting fight or or end in an exciting finish. The only one that might drag a little bit of these guys and titular live Grecian. Now that I stay that's all I can end in. Ten Second Flying Oh. To enjoy enjoy the jinx guys verse Jinx But. Otherwise The other matchup really looking for. Jenny Milwaukee Fares I. Am I also going to be really good really really good back and forth right that I think up my decision that it might be the best one possibly the main event or in Andrade and. The other thing I WANNA ask why is Jillian barberie and not a bigger star? I duNNo. Some trouble with the media I mean she's not. She's she has she has a good personality but again, not the smoothest. Media personality but she finishes fights She's she's. She's one of the rising contenders at one, twenty, five she's Canadian which everybody loves for is I know. So I don't know I i. hope that she has standpoint but. To tell you a really tough fight this decides to coin toss by for me though I don't think that's a showcase fight for for Julian Robertson all but I'm surprised surprised hasn't given her more of a push. Well, I mean they matched up with macy barber last year. Yeah I was Kinda. Basic. You've still going into that fight. Yeah I agree and I think that kind of rub people the wrong way because everyone expected that to be a banger and Barbara her running through her but Robertson's obviously doing much better. She's overcome that she's breaking records now and she wants to break some more records along the way. So that's GONNA. Be a fun to watch the cameras debut as Jose talked about in general is under the radar and him taking on Kutat. Salat say is certainly the definition of under the radar. Normally, I would go a little bit deeper in the card with these but. I really liked the. Crucified, man especially in the featured spot I mean it wasn't originally there because the Sierra was still there. But man visit a good one for that. Spot nine crude is a frequent powerhouse in Bukowski is a guy that I've been singing his praises for A. Just, great personalities just twenty, six years of age I finish his fights. That's all he does and clearly he's somebody that you have CDC's something in to give him this kind of a step up competition for just a second. UFC fight I was a little surprised at this booking but I like it nonetheless. So I think this is the under the radar fight of the card and could deliver some some good stuff. Perhaps in bonus money I don't know if we're GONNA get a Buckley Ko out of it, but I think this'll be a fun one. No doubt about it he's a man apparently. If he want real man. After? that. That's that's a great piece of baking. Though as they say, in the business crew crew abadaka status a great little. More more so more. So little pull on hold on hold on as you sit as they say in the business that's a great fight. Say It's a great piece of matchmaking. The borstal matchmaking few than they will on you know what I mean. It's not it's not the whole meal as they as they say in the business that's a fight. When you say That was a punch in a kick. I don't know if we can get much better than that I. Think. We have to Costanza are are took his on. Why? No nine point zero Mike, my gymnastics rating for this Carter since US nine point ceiling. Okay, well, there you go. Now, we can officially put a bow on this preview show here on Ma finding come. Of course, we are your one stop shop for all things fight island and UFC fight island sixth. Thanks to our Guy Jose in Abu he is there he'll have all the post by chats. We'll have results, storylines, post coverage, etc. So we have you covered as always Jose get some sleep my man. You got. For Jose for Alex Gaily the fiery print supposedly i Mike caq Thank you for watching and we'll see you tomorrow night. You're listening to the VOX media log as a network.

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Alexander Volkanovski & Cynthia Calvillo

"Area Hawaii's MMA show is presented by. Modell, Oh, rude for those with a fighting spirit. Hello there friends area who wanna hear back with another addition of the pod. Hope you're doing well on this Wednesday afternoon today. We've got UFC featherweight champion Alexander the Great Volkan off ski. Who Returns to action on July eleventh against Max Hallway and we've got said the feel who's coming off that big win over Jessica I in last weekend's main event, the new flyway contender herself and you know when I think of Cynthia Cavallo that reminds me that the Great Cynthia Freeland of NFL network joins my friend Yours Meena. Kinds on the latest episode of Menas Very Popular Football podcast. The meantime show this week. Meena Cynthia preview the AFC east from what I hear. They're very high on my buffalo bills who? Will Win. The Super Bowl come February I can't wait to check it out. It's the meantime show download and subscribe to it wherever you get your podcast. Also a reminder that today's podcast contains language that may not be suitable for audiences, so listener discretion is advised enjoy. In. Your life on this Wednesday June seventeenth, two thousand and twenty Logan Everyone. Welcome back to the program as always. We Are Presented by Modell Mode Oh, Espacio. With a fighting script hope you're doing well. We've got a great show planned for all of you. It's the Wednesday version of the Hawaii show and this week. We're talking to the reigning defending UFC featherweight champion Alexander the grateful ski. He's fighting in coming event of UFC. Two fifty one July eleventh on Yazd Island in Abu Dhabi, and yes I am putting a moratorium on this program and the Monday show DC on the term fight island. It ain't no fight island all right. It's just. Okay, it's great. I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but it's not what we thought it was. So can we please stop with all of it? I know no one's GonNa. Stop with all of it I know that you'll love saying it, but here it's Yas island or two fifty one or you have c two, fifty, one or just a great pay per view car with three title fights on the card so today we will talk to Alexander about the rematch and let me tell you. This guy's got a chip on a shoulder. It sounds like he's like he's the top contender going into the fight, not the champion defending his title. It sounds like he's. The Hunter, not the hunted, so it's a very interesting conversation after that conversation will talk to Cynthia Cavallo Great, win on Saturday night over Jessica I in the main event of that Vega show the apex. Incense City talked about the move to one twenty, five better tough upbringing in East San Jose and after that I'll offer some thoughts as well on Amanda Nunez latest comments, regarding her potential retirement, but first here's my conversation with Alexander I appreciate you joining me. It's been A. It's been a minute as they say here. In America since we last spoke. Of course, we found out last week that you are returning to action on July. July eleventh. You have C two fifty one against Max Hallway combing event of that that card that has three title fights on it. There's a lot to talk to you about with the fight, the comeback, this quote, unquote, fight, island, situation, but first. Let me just ask what is life like in Australia right now for you because my understanding Australia new, Zealand, it's it's slowly going back to normal over there. Is that accurate? Yes, it is, it's definitely a getting. You know the gyms of back opening now contact. It's my. Contact yet here in Australia and New Zealand they go contact there, but we're obviously we go to exemptions to to trying. would lucky enough to get out. Onto to get that done as soon as we knew, the spot was happening, which wasn't that long ago, the boys. With Creek Trigge, you know and got got the job done. I had a lot more energetic from the best part of the industry leader within a couple of days no-one now at the gym you know we under this whole process and system that so we can try, but you know things are definitely getting better are B so to be clear. You won't be training for this fight at city kickboxing. You'll be staying at home. Yes I'll be saying that because if I still got a New Zealander to do. Quarantine and quarantine two weeks and. Obviously, this is pretty short. Notice and You know we just could not afford that. You know you kind of. They're doing nothing for for two weeks. We needed a every week. We had a China, but I've lucky enough to get a good team around us. Obviously, you know. We still got Eugene and Brad in the boys allow. Zoom chats and breaking down the and everything so everything's assigned because you know Joe Life is my church is always one holding pads. Do my stuff anyway, and we got the bodies as well same schedule. So you know just editing consult. Who'll be cornering you for the fight? say the thing, so Eugene Brad head coach I love bees, and frank will be there as well wrestling coach so. It will have the same thing. Have, they explained to guys how you're going to get there. Because I heard that there's different options on the table like hub cities, charter flights, or you might be able to fly direct. You know how you're actually going to get Abu Dhabi. Man To. Be Honest right now. I'm just focusing on training a team working on that the US face. I've done exactly not We're right now. We WanNA know. We want to know what temperature it's going to be in in the in the rain wherever way fighting, these are things that we need to 'cause planes. Much change rugged told the obviously last time it was pretty hot. In in the rain there and if that's the case, you know, we might need to change us and things up with it. We got there early or even camp whether we we train them to hate lots or whatever it is, you know what I mean we go to. Make some changes, so we're still funding that exactly what's happening again? Not even you know maybe two inch ago. Where a new funding so you know what's happening, but Austin need to get prepared, but luckily you know me professional workout, voice, fame seat, but. But at the same time we need to get ready so the we need. We need to get. If you find out that it's going to be super hot in there. Would you in fact train under heat lights? Like those like. What would you put in there? We'll probably get a inside haters. To everything you know what I mean, we you know we tried to. Everything we can you know what I mean like all the one percent you know what I mean? There's a this spawned everything whether it's nutrition. Training and you know everything but especially. A. Temperature change in two degrees can make a big difference so You know we want to be you know we WANNA be familiar. We with these things you know we we have to. Even though I'm quick to adapt I, wanted to death nas to me I want to be used used. Don't want to be comfortable you know exactly the hot hot hot rams in the heat early rather than trying to get used to it in. In the in the Reno fighting for defending your belt, so these little things that need to be done if if that's going to be the case, but we just need to find out exactly what's happening us, so the card locally is going to start at six am to accommodate the North American audience, so that means because you're the second to last fight. You're probably GONNA. Fight at around eight am or so locally. How do you feel about that? I'm fine I'm okay with that. We. We actually do every last. We do all the everything on. They roof specific. We've everything we do. We go specific sessions that we train I. Don't have a day off because my usually my Sunday's my day off, but way trained at the same time as As we fought and usually, that's a you know whatever it's a you know, lunch or or in the morning here in Australia. That's when I'll do my Mahama's workout. At that time. You know just to adapt. Some body is used to moving that. You know even when I go to. Abu Dhabi I'm going to be you know the sleeping pattern. I'm going to try and to what I what I do. He so beginning to sleep reasonably early and waking up pretty early over there as well so I'm GonNa. Try and do that. We'll see how we gather. In everything everything counseling that that's an especially when you're. At the highest level you know, the everything adds up. You know what I mean so all. These bumper centers do make a big difference than. So again. Things the things that need to be done surprises comforts on. Since you mentioned it. A couple of times I'm just wondering. Would you have preferred if the fight would have been a little later is June eleventh a little earlier than you would have would've hoped. Opportunity Wise. I think this is a good opportunity. Fighting and being the first that caught on fire island, and you know obviously that free tartar fights, and it's an opportunity to miss. You know what I mean, so that was A. You know if this was pushed back a couple of weeks. We're going to be the first one. Yeah, all right maybe. Anyone that knows me knows that that can I can get fought fit within a couple of weeks. So you know. Let's be honest we. We knew it was GONNA be. The whole time, so you know it's. Not for nothing really changes on already. In the two weeks that I've done you know. More of the labels up. So you know in Bob Buffon? I'll be really good. Nick so I'm worried about that and again. This is a big opportunity that I didn't WanNa Miss. So you know again, it's just. You might say something to prove on now. You know what I mean. Look It's just we've everything that's happened. Obviously these challenging times. you know people quickly forget it quickly. Forget that you know went out there and shot a mixed in. You know what I mean. The no disrespect to the man but. That's what happened. You know what I mean to. Other nobody again people quickly forget and. And on, and what are these women? It can be in a by opinions or whatever news and other time people just you know people can. Quickly forget like you know. They can put things in the head and then and believe it so then believe that that's happened. I believe that a lot of people forget that all that I shut him down in. Ranch Hill and you know I'm less on the mainland to talk to Brag, but I mean it is what it is I believe I. Want to ranch pretty convincingly and you know again. People could get the Anita Anita show on that July eleventh that in on I am the best the white in the world and you know there's GonNa. Be No doubt Nixon anyone's mind. As soon as as soon as I. Get the job done, so I'm looking forward. Do it again. There's a big opportunity Max. You know some people say that he deserves a rematch on occasion. A navy spot for me. I need this fought for my legacy on need this, but you know what I mean for me to really Put myself in a in a in a good position and lead everyone. You know this is what needs to be done. This is the fault I want. So you know me? Martine molecular flush running that I ended up saying I. You know that's what's going to get funded. US anyway give me Mac. Again was something of you. Know Man you know. Whatever, but I kinda whitening I'm stoked I'm going to new load of vacation. We'd you know Ma'am using it as do, it looks like on. You know worrying about what people are saying, but I mean I'm using that Stewart, but they say you know obviously awful for my family, but now some the prove as well so those taken that built away from much in a guarantee you that and not just that you know now a book this. AGO This new, but this new fire in the belly and Smashing penetrating hotter than ever. You know just hitting numbers on the on the south, Barth and everything I'm just I'm Ki I'm ready. Let's go. Let's do it. You know what I mean. It's just it's good. I believe that I believe. The timing is right Xiulian that. And I appreciate the passion I could feel it coming through the screen here and I should correct myself. I said June eleventh at the beginning of that question. Obviously, July eleventh in. Dhabi I I saw an article. About. You didn't interview with the SPN DOT com in Australia recently and you. You mentioned a lot of the things that you just mentioned now, and it seems like you are feeling like disrespected you. It's almost you have this chip on your shoulder. And usually when you're the when you're the hunted as opposed to the hunter, you can kinda chill. You're at the top of the mountain, but why does it feel like I'm talking to a contender right now as opposed to the champ? Why are you so riled up? You do really feel like people have not given you your do since you won that title. At end of the day. You're always gonNA. Get this. You know there's always gonNA be heinous. There's always going to be people doubt and you know you're which Auto Mont I'm all about that. This sports? A crazy man on you got into those coming so for me. It's not really getting Jimmy, but again it's it's it's giving. Motivation is giving me you know a a focus. It's me a drive. It's giving me as giving me go. I'll go to new goal. Last. I, needed a win. Win that belt right now. It's more than that. Just being in Mexico isn't enough. I'm going to go out there and show everyone. How much better I am. You know showy run just. You know the Fatah. Can beat anyone. Give me a full camp. Can beat anyone on better than all the fun anymore. The Vision Hands. Down, but you know now proving something different I'm going to get some different and again it's. A little bit of a disrespect, but again that's just again. Look in the United may unusually talk like this and. A cool dude and everyone loves Max but at the same. The whole narrative, the right up to the. You know. He wanted to let you toward working in. I don't know what it was I. don't know if it's just what he believes and so be it, but you know he he implying that overtime people starting to believe it you know other night again. It's A. Few, I feel that if people can quickly get. And? Let's be honest us. You know you don't switch stances. for no reason you know to switch that he'd done a whole round in south. Purely because he's legos banged up and that that's that ran that he did. That was my third round. He went southbound pretty much all fought and those big round I picked him pop. You Ain't Gonna I did the whole randomly hurting especially when you get in? Constantly punched into fights. You know what I mean. If you look at the numbers, that's where I did most of my numbers and most of my damage. And you know for? The legs hooding. You Know I. Believe I believe that's a lot. I'll be wrong. You know what I mean I hate on the main, but at the same time. You know even just saying look you know. And they started talking about the judges and things like that just like way they going with this only I've just all of the prize. And then over time you start seeing people. Literally using the same word that these these doing then luck again people could forget, and they just throws the head and. Over time we had plenty of on thinking about these things, but at the same time man that's that's the sport, my very unforgiving sport sometimes. I imagine about what it was gonNA come in, but I'm lucky enough that audible nugget to prove myself. You know what I mean. I get the show. Remember while I'm the best way in the world and. Again, you know Mexico the great champion. Great Fodder you know a cool dude, but at the same time and not on the main right now and I'm GonNa. Show that July eleven. So you have a situation where you looked so good in the first fight on the game plan was tremendous as you said the like cakes really worked, perfection made him switch stances. You beat him up. Some people thought that you want all five rounds. Will you change anything and I know you don't want tip your hand, but like why would you even consider changing anything like? Do you think that he'll come and show up to be a much different fighter? That was the best Max. Hallway we thought we saw back in December so. Is it safe to say that we're going to see a similar Alex Wilkin off Look man that's. That's the thing. Macara nate to change much. On, this is going to be a different flat. you know a lot of people in even Max, you know their team. I'm sure they're going to say the success in the light around. where did more? you know and again this is this is how quickly people. Forget and people On the top person you know me I'm I'm as real as against them. Just children at all the block. That just tells you how it is man. You know that's just me and. Let's remember broke my hand. That fought a lot of people trying to say slow down in northern. Broke my hand lucky no on you. And you. He was gonna get desperate broke my hand. Obviously on to be a little bit more cautious and pull back a little bit, and then later around, but I mean that's why he's seen success and I know he's going to do a lot more fun. That's why they to be more. HOW HOT ICE! He's GonNa Take Lot Morris. Which I'm telling you I'm going to put hands on him I'm going to hurt him and again no nothing against the name, but that's something to prove, and that's what's exciting about these fuckers on. No, he's GonNa try and do. That's planning to Ma Gang. That's what he's GonNa be different again. You know me I'm smile fodder. I'M NOT GONNA. Take stupid risk, and you know just risk losing the whole, but at the same time there's GonNa be a few more risks. Anita need to be need to happen on Buffon's, and that's why I believe. This is GONNA BE A. Hot spot and I believe on finishing a really do and I. Believe I'm the main that Kim she million. That's as well you know. Everyone thinks that he can use I love it. Allowed for people wrong have done in the last few fought. And I'm sure people are GonNA GonNA disagree with me. Finish Max, but that's my goal July eleventh a Conway Man. I'm stoked as as you could say you fire in the belly. And It's GonNa. Be Good. I I can shown so we run some different tools as well as Ebenezer. The fought. You stick to a game plan I'll we'll do that. They GONNA say some new tools that fought. Ultimately. The the win is most important, but is there a part of you? That does feel that you need to finish him to shut. Everyone up once and for all. And that'd be good again. That's my goal anyway. But, now I can do it I. Know I can do it and again I if he wants to win this spot, he needs to do more. And he knows that as well so he's just playing into that that game as well. Now winning and and and bathing, and s smart Neiman and all this isn't enough for me. And I don't think that that's the way to go about these spot, and that's why I'm going. To. Put some hands on and I'm sure he's GONNA WANNA. Do the same. He wants that built back. Again I. Think I'm surprised that. Once they spot, you know obviously they want that built back, but. I, win, this fought. I think he's definitely done in the featherweight division, so maybe he just wants one last crack at at the the white auto. If it doesn't happen, he moves I. Don't know what it is, but. The boat ain't going anywhere real. You know what I mean again. I'm not a person you know maybe, but I'm very company MOM bility's and I felt faint here with me and the stroller. I got white. I get to prove. It s the best thing about the yoga. Say on token. What not? We are lucky enough that we can. Improve it. You know you know what I mean. That's what I'm GONNA do. When did your hand feel one hundred percent? The hand that you broken that fight in mid December. When did it feel like it was back to being normal? Probably would've been a a couple of months. Only Rahab code IOS using it reasonably early. I got a good team around me way. Way We'll. We'll do everything we could. Just trying to. You know work things. Obviously I couldn't use my right arm as much, but we'll do it as much as we could to. Keep the strengthen NAM. And just everything so you know as soon as that bone was ready to be. You know some of the tax. It was ready to go so slowly bringing it up. And probably a couple of months back to. Back the Hidden Padua as one of the and whatnot, but then you obviously had these. All the Toronto Borough virus things are. Slow things down again. But again. It is what it is. By, the way, just curious. Yes the quota demand so. Various before they settled on Holloway. Did they present you an opportunity to fight Henry? Who was there anything to that? Now. There was never never anything that might come to me that that was just. Obviously people talking about it I always always open to it'll be. There when he was when he was abandoned my team. Athletic Champigny was trying to coal for the Fed. White House whatever you know what I mean. Holding up the visions I I know about that, but as soon as. He? He said he retired. and gave up his belts, and then finally would come out of retirement to fighting federal way all look at him now is fake antennas as of Said, so he's longer in the band and white vision, no longer in the following division, and he's talking about Federal Division now. Look at him all right. You Ain't holding up the visions and you've done some good things I. Go to give credit to this. Huda you looking back. He's done some incredible things into the same deserve to shoot for them ranks pretty quickly. That wouldn't be fair, so that's when all of all you know what she's an opportunity to say. Come with it. Obviously, we'll look into especially when it was on the Mac. And Right now. You know we didn't have any of the contenders that full. Put themselves right up there, so we're sort of in a in a bit of A. We fly. You know it's gotta be mack. We thought that that was probably the next option. But as as you're saying the whether they've been fully enhanced, but the fifth division on started. It's pretty pretty impressing with some of the parts. That's happening all the contenders. Older guys that are right up. There fought in each of us. Trying to spot, there's GonNa be a there's going to be God's cold for that belt, and everyone's going to be talking about these guys and whoever it is, that's winning obviously and I'm going to be mentioned enough kind of white. WHO's GonNa be next challenge. That's a you know looking photo to it so some exciting coming and again, August. July eleventh, and then my on the rest of the guys again I told you from day. One of one with that I want to shoot for these contenders. I'm taste contenders. On the, but on the content is coming for all of. It would appear as though those pseudo fight now that he's not tied up would be a big fight. Is that something that you would even be interested in or do you think it's unfair? If he you know, jumps the Q. and jumps over the likes of Zombie Zombie and all these guys. I think if he did have a chance that was before now now that they happening. Don't think that would be you know what I mean so again. Loyal on the match. On or not, but I just looked at it that luck. There's a there's so many fathers that close, but just maybe but that's why all these. What's happening. That's why the match Mike is a making these spots happening and we're going to have clean up. Want contenders very soon, so we're GONNA have a couple of options oddly but again I'll go to job to do. Something to prove and you know this is what I wanted. This fought one of these probably maximum for the reasons I've told you and. I'm looking it I'm looking forward to it. You want the build six months ago. Has Life dramatically changed for you and your family like you ever see dreamt of being a UFC champion is life what you thought it was going to be or is it relatively the same? Okay at home. It's the same obviously a bad. You know what I mean. Look he'd Bancaire that you'll? Say built. Wake you up. Early in the morning, it's still gonNA listen to you. You know what I mean. All the things don't. When you're out in about it is different. You know it. It's getting hot. It's just. Sometimes I'll forget and I'll be like early. Anita pick up something, and then especially these run ours is happening, and then everyone wants to shake hand and get photos and. Member social. So all of my I started. Being a bit closer don't add especially now. As you know when you go to. Go, especially with these exemptions we. We need to stick to have bubble because we were the. Training a kind of food, to just go out and about, and and they mingling with everyone so by now I just need to stay. Behind the scenes in the gym I don't have time to do anything anyway. He's GonNa. Bust miles from. A new management team. Though right. That's a big change your life. Yeah Yeah and you management teams. Yet I think it's just a just had some that needed to be done, and it's happened in. You know it is what it is Gay Dad too much into that but. Again where we're looking forward when looking forward and uh, things are going good and again. The we wanted, and this is a big opportunity and. Again? Are GonNa Change once again you know every time you fought. You know things just blow up so much more, and then after this on fought on such a big todd. You know taking out you know one of the goats back to back any. Know that same something. That's no joke, and that's what I plan on doing and You know that's a that's in a statement. To less things when you talk about this exemption like. Did you have to petition the government to allow you to train? What do you mean when you say the exemption? Yeah, so we had a as we got wind of it. We had tain. Management Team in. A local. Guys like that in the government to. Orange is a very successful a mental. Strategy is a very well known. He even helped us we that. Police Commissioners on board and hope ministers, and we have to planes, so we can train. It was as a process. We'd is the whole process. We need to do Kobe tests. every week. You know we're. We're doing everything. It's a whole process. but the thing that within a couple of days you know, and I was lucky enough to have my. Like you know my Boris and and just even everyone else at bond onto, so they're supposed to be unreal, and then again even the support of the team. The team that we've me nail all the Fargo. Spending Champions USA fought is. you know what I mean and just after the guns that all our thank all stuffed everything they're doing to being. Can't we made at a at a here in wingding? You know what I mean, so it's A. It's pretty incredible, so we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go team and again. Luckily I've got the boys still. Inside of obviously across the ditch at New Zealand, so we're doing zoom chats and nothing's really changing just. As good drilling, good move going. Okay and lastly. Were you a little disappointed. When fight island wasn't what we all thought it was going to be that it wasn't going to be on the beach or do kind of prefer this that it's in a controlled environment. I know we talked about the temperature, but you know fighting on the beach, the sun the the the the the way. I don't know it could be a little distracting. Are you disappointed or happy that It's it's not what we thought. I never actually thought it was gonNA, be automated in the in the sunlight and all that type of stuff so. That doesn't surprise me. You know what I'm saying that. The photos of these place it looks pretty incredible You know what I mean, but you know. Who is on to me? that. I don't know talking about nightfall. Let's do it free taught flotsam fought on and account white, but you know it's GonNa be good you know I don't know much about. Haven't actually a really new told me get asked, you know. They asked me you know. Were you surprised by the? Probably need to do more research. All I know is the Tornado Day and I just WanNa make sure this may conditioning in this arena that was funding so I'm definitely glad when fundamental beach in the Sun. Yeah, well, I can't wait. Yeah, no I can understand that I can't wait. July eleventh the return of Alex Focus Ski his first title Defense Against the Guy. He beat to win the title back at USC to forty five in in December of this past year. I'm glad to hear that you're doing okay that your hand is okay Alex. it's great to see you as as always. I wish you the best in these final few weeks of training, and of course on fight night. Thanks as always. Thank, you? Great stuff there from the champ, amazing to hear what he has to go through just to train in Australia and also to hear how fired up. He is usually when someone is the champion. You kind of lose a little bit of that, but it sounds like he's got a massive chip on his shoulder, and he wants to prove to everyone that the first win over. Mac Hallway was no fluke I didn't consider it a fluke eighteenth. Win in a row. You're coming off victory over Josie Aldo and Chad, Mendez. Yeah, it's not that big of a surprise that you could be Max Hallway but I. Guess People didn't really know who. He was so he has opportunity to shut everyone up and to cement to spot as the top guy at one forty five, so it's a big spot for him now speaking of big spots, Cynthia Cavallo had a big spot last week and it gets guy before we get to that conversation. Let me tell you about our good friends over at Modell modell. Oh s best. Ya'll music. Oh. See here to sing while I Anyway. Root for those with a fighting spirit. modell is the official beer of the UFC partners with UFC double champion the Nunez. We'll talk about later on in the program. 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Start before the fight and the victory was the plan always to move up to one twenty five this year, or was it because you got this fight on three weeks, notice a big opportunity and so one hundred five made the most sense. No after my last fight in the mislead, we decided that. I was scheduled actually anthem as MINUCCI flyweight. But fight got cancelled. Because occur virus in Manila, Gypsy trade that so Yeah. The plan was always go to. Me knows my from the time that got into the at sea. It's like. No. Os February it. I wanted to get the title at strongly in the move up to fly weight, but I just it was just too hard to make that weight so. With that behind us right now, just go Of course you know your troubles making that weight well documented. What was the worst? How bad did it get? Wanted just to. Sweat and it was just one of those things where like if my body's going through things like it's really tough, it's like a gamble you know with flyweight divisions I can always make it as a matter of what's going if something goes wrong, cuts away, but it's nothing to compare you know. China cut to one fifteen so. It's just. It was just too hard. It just got harder and harder I. Don't know. I just kept my weight lower I can constantly we team. Can't do it anymore. Like just at least not consistently. flyway. I'm going to be able to as many times as I. WanNa know be able to take short notice sites such as this. When you were cutting out to quote unquote cutting down to flyweight last week where you constantly telling yourself man, this is so much better. I should have done this sooner. I wish. I would have done the sooner. This is a breeze compared to what I've been used to absolutely i. mean usually when it's like were three weeks. We're super. During about making sure my diets way say have to be really strict and say is just another stress, and then with the ATHOL is an IT train heart all the way through you know until the last week of you know the cows so I feel so much better is crazy felt like it was just like even when I was fighting, it felt like. I. Don't know like another training day I was able to push really hard so I'm really happy that I made the move. Safe to say you're not going back down to one fifteen ever again. This is your new home. it's my new home, but I can't say I'm never knocking down to strongly given the right fight You know, go down inside I. Stole wanted my life brief. You know, get a chance. Another shot Marina Rodriguez. To really make your right because I was only draws so a one a fighter. If I get a chance super, we'll see no always fights a million for sure to go down, but for right now home. And you know when you're fighting a obviously, you've only had one fight at fly into UFC, but I can foresee and correct me if you feel otherwise there might be a size disadvantage for you when you start to fight the bigger girls at one twenty five, or are you at all concerned about that? No I. I don't have fought many. A times twenty five. I started at thirty five. So it's not lay. You always been a smoker. Steven, some of strong strong. Yeah, you know we might have some disadvantages with. Latest reaching stuff, but that's okay. It's on your second. Get in their. Legs. Music balance. So I don't have not really taken through with. That thought really big girls and you know. Pretty much. Everybody already fi moved up to flyweight. You know have already fought. I think everybody except for Morita. Roger Listen. Carnival sparce are still straits, but everybody else had fought. They're all flyweights. It's you know. I think I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA. Do just fine. I know you. You talked about this in the Post by press coverage, but I wasn't quite sure what you were trying to say so. Maybe you can clarify for me. She missed weight by point. Twenty five right just Guy Mrs Way, but you believe that she actually missed. What by four pounds? What's the story here? Yeah So we received So her coach. Eric had message mine manager in the morning saying. That she was gonna Miss. Wait shoes at one twenty nine point in. Shoots, having a hard time has been cut pastor. Okay ELECTRA ME I. You will soon be tough meeting the way it was such a big over missing the way What was the big deal is when you know you go on the scale, and you shall thirty minutes later in your magically twenty six point two, and not once when nine point six. You know, it's like that's like. Meanest taking money out of my pocket, because that's the difference between twenty percent or thirty percent when I asleep my meetings, you know I didn't hold the towel to try to take extra pounds off. kind of but just kind of boasting body in. There's no way she would cut that much weight. Even Shawn Shelby came up to me. No one we're at the way in. He's like. Yeah, let me swayed by. You know when twenty nine of worth in next thing I know. Air the, Kinda like muffle the the way. Those kind of weird announced everybody else's weighed on his scalp. Hers Kinda like. Like I don't know it was, it was really weird anyways. She came out today. She's like I'm sorry, grow only points you. Know, it was definitely not not but. Still job bills like. Ford with this fight, and then afterwards Colorado It wasn't cool. You know just when? She looked like shoes really like happy that she had only miss. Appointee, but WHO's happy about receiving way you know when I missed I. Locked. Myself crying, you know. Anybody else. Aluminum proud of myself because I railway. So is. There's no way I mean. There's no way she waited. At even by all the officials who there is a significant. Difference going to fight 'cause they said you know right before we fight. So. Yeah so perhaps when they do the the hoop. They need to have their hands up right because. She's in black. You also talked about in the post fight. Press conference that you know you shouldn't. You shouldn't be here, you're. You're A girl from East San, Jose and people like you don't make it to stages like this. What? What was life like in East San Jose. What was it? What was so bad about it? Law Any Games there. You know what I mean, It's four community sorts like we didn't really have many It's early a religious getting by you know. Parents are got my parents working and stuff, and so they didn't even have probably instilled. Make sure you RIPI sitters because Roy's just industry no I never. Got To play sports or anything like that that would be. Say in the streets with kids there so. It's just kind of rough Kinda. Grow up with this attitude of NFL like a lot of kids. There in I would have felt the same way to growing up his. got. At San Jose. It was like weird like I didn't want to get you so sheltered in the idea. WANNA leave leave when I did I did a lot of growing I didn't have the league money in those despite. This label when you're there like just already in A. Delight. Just getting in trouble or just not really doing. The life really It's really easy to do that. You know who are product of your environment. Your whatever your rounded, so it's not. It wasn't an easy town of East. Identity Grow Up. So, that makes me really proud to represent you know especially. I started when I was later, I was at twenty three years old. No, no background, so there's a lot of kids out there that just Kinda lost and they don't have any direction. Have anybody the like we or anything I? If I gave, it would have been you know I. Think I would have been any year long time ago. Yes, just difficult up there in A. Super excited to represent like. I never would have told me when I was little bit could be professional athlete. Said Your light. Do used to get into fights a lot as a kid. I got it for spite was a big rage. After that. Girls wanting a mess with the they never followed through, so there's a couple times where you really getting ready to fight. It didn't happen 'cause I was just. I I never started problems. started with me. I hate bullies or the ever. Chances are designated as myself. And so when you say you only got into it at twenty three. Who opened the door for you? Who Introduce you to this? ME. What do you mean? I just went to a gym like a block away from where I was working like I. Was Not happy in my life. Twenty three I just got a huge break up our completely insecure kind of broke gang and. I know what else in a Jew and I was really depressed and I was. Out of shape and just I don't know in Arizona Jim Block away knows like always wanted to try it, and I never got a chance to I love watching fighting of law obviously Mexicans. We Love Watch boxing and stuff like that, so my dad did watch it, but he never was like early fighter. There's no way like. In I just walked in in the rest of the Strait overlaps like cried every day by every single day. How do you go from that? You know just trying to get your life back on track. Lose some weight, etc to becoming a pro fighter. At what point does the switch happened where you actually consider this to be a future for you? Probably. said the first two years I had my first after your trading in a knockout hooked up through that and so I just i. just going in I became the number. One ranked CIDER in Zeta California's an amateur, which had three years. After that. I was like Man United. Probably really do something with this especially. At when Ronda Rousey I only you know the the came over to the sea, so that openness you store rose like now we can. Actually you know awfully the living off of this. You know so. I just believe in myself, my parents that was crazy I like quit my job and had popped up writing on a joke. and. That's where surely trained with a team is now in. Ever. Since then, this is what I've been doing. And now you're part of team. May the American Kickboxing Academy which of course is in San Jose? Why did you leave Alpha male enjoying AK? there is a lot of changes with the coaching, so I felt like I was like a like getting split. Once. We moved to the new location. His your I had a smaller when he was more intimate stuff. The coaching was different in once. We went to the new Jim. A bunch of things changed and I had one coach. Justin Buckles but likability more just laugh at I was just kind of put in the middle of it in it, just it. It was good for me. A started affected me my training. Just like bad vibes felt like I was in the middle of it, so then I had. A, you know timoth mounted in. Australia feared these all, and it wasn't so this year of conduct getting ready for the Anthony might time between Sacramento and San Jose. Pandemic in the. Let's just move because I really was doing a lot of the SACRIMENTO. anyways so I just decided I just. Gordon reasons vacation area. Repairs or there, so it's I dunno, it's especially during this time as much time as I account with with parents do the last since I elect left to. Sacramento. Backroom, and it feels great Islamic people by size their decay, no I I. Was it? That's why that was original choice, right? What's that process like like? You say okay. I want to join this great team. Do you have to talk to have your Mendez another coach there? And do they interview like? How do you just join the team? Yeah I mean. Like you know as long as he knows, you're fighting professionals that. Of course he will let you. Out The do I talked to him. I told them that you know I'm going to do my job. And so forth he was very welcoming whenever had no I ended up. Just getting started working with one coach Ron Kessler is. Also you know. He's he's really he's actually beat up. Were so it's a lot. Of. but They. He's yeah, it's been great i. mean it's been really weird. 'cause like this viscount which we got since January was like a was. The, Gist, oh, not really open. It's only open to people have financing so when we were in their You know maybe one or two coaches in two teammates, you know. A. Very kind of didn't do. It was a two week. So. Yeah! I understand after the flight. The captain of Ak gave you a call sorta like when the President calls you after a big victory, Dana Cormie call do he. He bestowed that honor upon you. What was that like to hear his words into to get congratulations from him? Guy was awesome. I mean it's really good i. mean. Why didn't really feel pressure but I I was like thinking about that. Like how am I gonNA, go author late represent. This team now and you know it's like short-notice regard on. Route their. Blow this you. Know it was great. It's really gorgeous everything that's been going on congratulated median and the team, and said No. We did a great job. does in alike, you know. Coaches and stuff like other like crazy, trying to sell it to the judges during the fire. microbiomes. We win there with the planning done so? He was. Just. Congratuling those Ellen's really cool. Overall. Are you happy with your performance I? Five round fight you go the distance. You beat a former title contender. Are you happy with the the entire body of work? I. Mean Yeah I. Get everything that I knew I was injured the fight for. The finished, but considering every knows like going on. I'm pretty proud of myself like it was my first five round. Fight in a really wanted to see how the fish like it. We out like in my head like just. We probably don't have time to get ready for firearm. Fight for heart. Firearm I it three weeks two weeks, but you know we're just going to do our best. We're going to train every day. Not Do whatever I can get in the best shape. Surprising, follow are still able to go. Really strong thrown so anything out like I was definitely a little bit more conservative, but I do like the fight you know. I gotTa look I got him where he wanted to, but the they'd probably out any money fights. But it was it was it was it was very founded. New She's been going there big tooth see house in this year round Especially, if you don't have time to get ready for five years, you're going to get tired lot. But. It was I. think that's the whole thing about being able to fly like if our. I know after the fight. You're like a anyone anytime anywhere. I'm ready to go, and people were calling you out like Kagan, but now that we're a few days removed. My suggestion was winner of Roxanne modified versus Lauren Murphy which happens. This weekend would be the perfect next opponent for you. Do you have a stronger feelings as to who would make sense for you next? Yeah I mean. Yeah that was one of those either going to be jogging. Fight Hewitt. Error or There you go. Lauren? Winner Lauren Murphy modest areas so. For sure those are the options that we're looking at right now. I'm hoping to get a you know A. Against so we'll see how these you know this fight those this weekend and you know because who knows hopefully it'll come out with any ginger I just want a busy, so whoever we can line up for would be great. And by the way, did you like the The experience fighting smaller cage? I did a day. There's nowhere to run united. We get these more so I like that. I think for more action for Sir. I don't think it was that big of a difference in my opinion of. It was crazy. I, just a fowler kind of weird. Get to the United. States those like bill senior right around. I remember I. Think it was after your debut you you were at the post fight. Press conference in you were sitting next to Dana. White and he was saying like you know when I saw connor for the first time. I knew he was the star when I saw Ronda Rousey. I knew she was a star. I know that this person right here. Cynthia Caveat is going to be a star that you feel like you've always had to live up to that I mean that's that's. That's a lofty. Expectation to put upon someone right especially at a young age. Do you think about that a lot? And you feel like you have to prove that he was right, and is that part of your motivation? I mean. It was really cool. Obviously you needed to. Take a little bit of pressure for sure girls also Mike Connors Rasi. Or did. It Just kind of not really rocky for me, so it was like. To. Not really try to think about that too much, and just make sure I got back on track his. It was a little rough the team. I feel like eagerness. MEAN, there's a couple. Miss Out, so my bird, and so now I'm getting back on track and I. Feel like I can do that at flyweight so hopefully. He's still feels the same way. Ignoring. They know he was really happy with right before mid so. I'm stoked about that I wanNA keep issues forward in. Z.. See how we can make it happen the as far as you know. Are Barely scratching the surface you know. I had such a great seer in. It's been so up and down in rocky. No actually. New Chapter New team known movie backer richest if it feels very I. Don't know I like there's a lot of pressure. There's lot of waiting down on my shoulders and is still a lot of among off and I can really just argon in news. Ninety Last question in your mind. How Far Away Are you from? Valentina Shevchenko. How many more fights how many more years are you from being in that discussion? I think. That special already you know and it's kind of. Sasha Open Division. There's not many people in such so new. It's easy to get to the title. At flyway in immediately became the top five are pretty. You know Kinda already in as of yesterday, I'm number two so. I'm right up there I. Mean Joanne Calderwood were to be is fighting for the title next so what you see the homeland, five wait for the perfect opportunity answer like obviously she's such a dominant champion Arctic air the probably once the day get matched up. Pretty sure you know what would be a get. My ass kicked like see breezy, but you know it's. You. Make fights have. The best factly division that can give a really good run for money into the rest of the girls that she's been fighting arena fits a standard or see. Wandering fight inaugurated so You know I could be you know one. We're fight in Alexa and lines, so I'm not opposed opposed to that I just WANNA site. Just keep going no matter what you know on down. So far so good you have fallen down, and now you're back up and you are thriving it one twenty five great performance. Great Win. Thank you as always for the time Cynthia and continued success to you. It's you're appreciate it. Appreciate the time great to hear about her upbringing as well I think she's maybe one or two away from being that discussion at one twenty five, so curious to see who they match up against next I think Roxanne ferry versus Lauren Murphy that fight this week. In the winner of that fight would make a lot of sense. Don't know of Caitlin. Kagan makes a lot of sense. 'cause she recently lost to the Champ Valentina Shevchenko she beats her now. You're just killing off contender and you have another person who is at the. The top who Chanko already beat so there's not a lot of money to be made there so curious to see what they do. That's why like the modified Murphy fight because they haven't fought against Valentina Shift Jako now. There are a lot of people out there. That would love to see Valentina, Shevchenko Fight Menounos for a third time, and of course we just saw menounos compete back at UFC two fifty will. She has made a lot of headlines this after an interview that she did in her home country of Brazil that. that. She talked about her future. She said quote. I don't know I've achieved everything I. Wanted I'm well I can go on with my life. Maybe take a new step. Maybe find new talents helped some girls. Maybe be a coach to I'm in a moment that I can retire. You know and I'm in a moment that I can fight. I'm fine. There's nothing else to be done right now. In the division, the famed come for sure my life going forward. If I do stop now the UFC, we'll give me every support. Support I need to continue having my money and work end quote so few thoughts on this first of all everyone lost their mind, and they're starting to say Oh, here's another fighter who wants to retire oh? Let's lump her in there with John Jones and Conor McGregor and Jorges Mazda unhinged Suto. Let's get something straight right off the Bat Amanda. Nunez isn't those guys. She's not saying this 'cause. She's unhappy with the UFC or she is unhappy with her. Pay has nothing to do with any of that. She is saying essentially. There's not a lot of competition and what? She's right, but guess what. That's the dream that's the dream. If you're an enemy fighter or any kind of prizefighter, you want to be at the top of the mountain in your prime, making a lot of money doing well being successful and the gap between you and the rest of the contenders is so wide that every time you step in the cage, there is no risk you're not worried about getting hurt. You're not worried about. Getting knocked out yes of. Of course anytime. You fight against someone. There's always that risk, but let's be honest. She's fighting right now. Lesser Competition and she's getting paid top dollar to do so. That's the dream. It reminds me of when Ben Aspirin, went to one championship, and he went out there and you know essentially was fighting. Less competition was paid a lot of money to do that and not getting hurt. That's the dream at the end of the day. The goal of every prizefighter should be get the most amount of money. And take the less the least amount of damage right that should be the dream. And now she is living that dream so to me. It would be silly. Move on her part in far be it for me to tell anyone to retire or not retired, but it would be ill advised. Move Right now to walk away when you have an opportunity to make a lot of. Of Money and fight less competition I understand if she wants to take a break, I understand, she's about to come mother for the first time in September that makes sense and it would probably be good for those divisions forty, five, one, thousand five. She takes a break because you'll allow you know other contenders to emerge, so it's not bad if you do that but to walk. Walk away now would make no sense in my opinion, because you are living the dream and by the way, let's read those comments. She's not saying she's done. She's talking about options and she said I'm in Portuguese I. Think a lot of people are overreacting here I think a lot of people are freaking out. I think we'll see Mandarin as fight plenty of times from here. Here on out and I wouldn't be surprised if we can continue to see her. Defend that title one thirty, five and one forty-five art, those are my two cents or three on Amanda Nunez now time for everyone's favourite segment of the week. It is time for TST's minimalist tip of the week, and as always it is brought to you by our good friends over at modell. Sending the gold standard for authentic Mexican beer since nine hundred twenty-five mode Delo brewed for those with a fighting spirit. Minimalist tip of the week. So I've gone weighs more detailed how to get rid of physical objects whether it's by getting rid of them entirely donating digitizing them, because they no longer necessarily add ballots your life, but also mentioned getting rid of people, but I haven't really gotten much detail why that? You should consider doing the puzzle benefits. You can have an so. My personal philosophy on this is that I? Like to keep a close circle because I. think it can be unhealthy in a way to have friends recall Panini just for the sake of having friends or having company. 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In in this case. In particularly. This works for me. I believe that you're better off spending time loan with yourself. Evaluate in trying to get yourself better. I then surround yourself with people who may do a were I. That is tremendous advice and on that note. Try I think it's time for us to separate ways you get what I'm saying. Do you get it? Get it. To go separate ways with some of our viewers. You got some five-star reviews. Sneaking him real quick, kimball one six six five stars Title DC Public Summation Voice I've been a long time listener and I'm so glad I waited to write a review until now why the addition of DC needs to be a permanent thing is true human being that I wish you would have had this platform years ago as it has made it easy to root for him and selling casualties as the true radius of all time, who that's nice. was there another another one from mad g? Five Star says keeping up. What this show as it's always good to get my emma fix need to keeping flexible. 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UFC on ESPN 10 Preview Show

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UFC on ESPN 10 Preview Show

"You're listening to me on. The UFC is three more events at the apex before heading over to fight island in July. The first of those Las Vegas Events Takes Place Tomorrow night headlined by Jessica. I take it on Cynthia Kallio and if this morning's weigh ins are any indication I. Don't know what the Hell to expect tomorrow night. What's going on? Everybody? Welcome to the UFC on. ESPN, ten preview show here on MA fighting, dot, com, I mike. Mike my CAC that is Jose Young joining us from Las Vegas Jose Listen. This main event was met with a lot of criticism. We talked about this a lot of between the links, but at the end of the day. Two things are for certain won. This fight is happening tomorrow night in the main event into despite what happened on the scales. This is still a pretty important fight for the women's flyweight division. While it's not a flyweight fighting marts catchweight fight so. Say like. You will just misses way for the second time. It was point well. I point to five point two over. What is really alarming to me, is yes. She missed way but I don't know if you guys heard through the broadcast, so I tweeted out as you stepped off the scale. She says I'm done. I can barely walk right now so regardless of making the way missing the way like healthwise I. Don't doesn't sound. Start the best thing. The year getting out scale I can barely walk or I don't think I can walk so take the fighting out of the equation. It's just an alarming thing to hear human being say stepping off the sky after making wait. First of all shame on you for a well actually me on the first question on this show or the first statement of this preview show but that. That was one of the big questions heading into this event with was the battle with the old scale, because each fighter had big wait Mrs in their last fight, and caveats was at one fifteen. Both women hit the scales caviar. She'll pretty good not having a cut those extra ten pounds and then I add the missed by point to. Actually went on Instagram, said she's fine. She's ready to go and that if she had just gone to the bathroom impede before she hid the scales, she probably would have made the way, but you. You mentioned what she said and it looked. She looked really rough, watching that on the fighting livestream, which she is bad as it looked on camera while I was going to see physically behind the behind the hoop of shame, as Casey calls it but just so I I basically saw from her neck up and that was enough. She looks getting on the scale. She looks super stressed out and super nervous dislike depress like like just just hoping for the best and the citizen we re read the way in. She missed away. She had like. This look of despair. Our. She just was. Like just heartbreak just broken that so I can't say. She didn't try because she looked. Like distraught that she missed weight. I really hit her hard so yeah. Bomber time all around for Jessica entertain. As of now. The plan seems to be that, Valentine. Next title defense will be against. Joanne Calderwood in the AFC, tried to book that fight bounty was forced to withdraw due to injury, and that seems to still be the plan, but as you know Jose especially in this sport plans can change, and they can change very quickly so with your vast wisdom and knowledge I don't think I mean is clearly out of picture one because of the weight miss because balancing a brutally knocked her out last year. It's probably way too soon. Even put her in that conversation, but is there a scenario where Cynthia Cavallo could jump the queue and slide in there after tomorrow night? No definitely got Roxanne out of. Up Next week I think. It gets the next title shot. Then, even Jennifer my out there still fighting, I can't remember fighting shoots, even a flyway, but I. I don't think there's a scenario where Silvio can skip the line if anything if Joanne. Calderwood and bounty answer. Shinko isn't booked anytime soon. I'm hoping maybe on the August Carter the September card, but if they want if the fighters want to stay in shape, maybe Cynthia could fight the winner of the loser of Lauren Murphy and Roxanne, modify but I think there's a scenario right now where? Cynthia Colville skips the line and considering We don't even know like like, so we're. We were talking about. August I was like where's August, can they? Where's August was the August fight going to be he goes. I don't even know we're trying. We're GONNA pandemic, so it's hard to even look ahead. Because will we even have fights will fight. Fallout will well. When will Valentina fight so who? Who knows but I don't think Valentine is in situ in a I. Don't think there'll be a scenario. Cynthia Skips Salon. I'm glad you mentioned motto, Fairy Versus Murphy Because Dana White before he went on talk to you guys. He announced the fight cards for the twentieth, the twenty twenty-seven monetary smurfs, the second fight of the night is the second prelims fight, which is mind blowing to me considering. Legal, fight that is, it's like. Where did he put counter? Kagan is like the number. One ranked flyweight where she choose way early on the car we had. Perez, and who was it for Meka? What of like top five at flyways in the world and they were buried on the prelims. Do So not that. I would honestly be surprised. If I ca- chiquet wasn't thousand Fight Night Ju- Shaquille Shivshankar the An. Shankar like if? It would have been more of a surprise if they put that fight on the main card honestly is because like it deserves. It should become a van, but it would surprise. It's it doesn't surprise me whatsoever. Yeah still that's next week. We gotta talk about this so much talk about co main event. This is the fight that people are very excited about because the bad blood between them escalated even further today Marva Tori take it on Karl Rogerson, but we had another hiccup on the Scales Carl Roberston Mrs Weight Again, and if you're not aware Rogerson, wait ahead of UFC Jacksonville. Couple of weeks ago by a pound and a half and enforce them out of the fight this time he misses by. Bounds this was pretty surprising. Considering he went on the virtual media yesterday and city figured it all out. He was adamant that he was good to go into added that Jose. He was one of the first ones to the scale this morning. Yeah, it's one of those situations where. We talk about on on the way in stream, if I'm a fighter and I see my opponent like coming in right at the end with five minutes left. They're still wet. There's still like they're sucked out. They missed by point five. Then maybe I'm like. Are you tried or is? She tried as hard as she could like this. The respect is at least still there if she didn't come coming in early like halfway through with an hour left and missing was allied the Jeremy Stevens Calvin cater fight like coming in with a lot of time left missing weight by that much it's. What else to say Call Roberson like talk to be game, but it couldn't couldn't walk the walk so yeah. I don it's it's? It's I feel bad for Marvan Vittoria. I'm glad he gets to fight. But I feel bad that this is now the second time in a row. call Roberson. comes up comes up to heavy against Marvan Tori. Yep He's GonNa get thirty percent of Carl Robertson's perse in addition, Zaruki a dash off I. think that's his name. I'm sorry if I mispronounced do comers. Faced Tyson Nam Tomorrow Night He missed weight by two and a half pounds. He's going to forfeit twenty percent of his purse to Tyson, NAM and Derek. Minter announced earlier today during the way of self that he is out of his fight with Jordan Griffin due to falling ill during his way, cod griffin made wait successfully, so he should get a show money for sure back to the main event Jose. Vittori won his last two fights since that split decision loss to Israel. Roberson got that lesson from glover to share you have seabrook lemass January, but he's bounced back with back to back wins in his own right. This fight was supposed to happen in Jacksonville. We said before Roberston had that way cutting issue that forced by the fight, we saw the lobby video or Pretoria was just absolutely irate with him, and now he misses again, but. But to me like this Arti was escalated in a big way, but much like the Roosevelt Roberts Brock Weaver fight. This one is is even more big in more exciting in terms of how the fans view than it was say five or six hours ago. I mean agreed because we're be talking about this fight if they had followed heading into the Jacksonville fight card. Like, yeah, that fight is it's important for their careers, and like it's a good fight, but we talking about it this much. If if all, if the white collar we've Roberson went smoothly at Jacksonville. It's just another flight on a cards a good fight, but it's not stealing the headlines, and then as soon as that out, bro Outbursts happens. It was already all we have to rebook it, and then you mrs again. It's like the main event is a big deal but I. Think Vittori Rogerson. Is People have have a lot of even when they missed, people were tweeting me like. When's the stared I wanted to stare. Down I can't wait for the on. Then the was nothing it was just like Marvin Tori looking in like liking Who who is it? A Patrick Bateman is Adam just bogged out so that no shoving or anything like that, but you could tell people or at least excited to see these to get their hands on one another. In one of the crazier stories of the week, Murad Douala's Willie was supposed to fight Ray Borg in the featured bout on this card and it looks like he's now one half of the feature pre limb, but has a new opponent. On forty eight hours notice. Ray Board had a family emergency had to withdraw from the fight. Our thoughts go out to Ray, because family, indeed from fighting always well, but stepping in is Gustavo Lopez and what a story. This became because he was the kabbage. Americas bantamweight champion. Campbell McLaren the president of combat. You America's tweets out yesterday that Lopez still. Still under contract with the promotion and even Lopez's manager Daniel Rubinstein admitted that he didn't particularly dot his. I's or crosses tease, which I thought was pretty admirable, but in the end as I reported Wednesday evening, Combat America's grants has released. He is good to go to fight Murad tomorrow night at one hundred and forty pound catchweight bout, but man. What a crazy couple of hours that transpired probably as you were heading to Vegas as you know. Lopez very exciting guys won his last three, but man. What a tough debut against Bob Wallace Willy. It's the worst possible matchup form. I've Seen Lopez fight a few times on the combat America circuit especially when they're on the Phoenix. I saw one of his original. I couldn't remember these like they. There was like some confusion where he was again. A light minister late minutes minute opponent so he didn't get to fight for the title, but good fighter exciting fighter. But Mihrab is unbelievable like he's one of those guys where he wins, and he's GonNa be like. Fifteen at ten somewhere ranch, they're known to fight him 'cause. He's clearly better than his ranking, but he's he's he. He doesn't put on those like epic wars. Getting I'm not comparing him. To Habib, let me let me put it there. Because I think it'll be on another level. It's one of those situations where like you have this this Dahgestani or or in case, George and fighter, who is just gonNA dominate you and you're gonNA, look terrible against it, and it's you're risking a lot for someone that's low ranked. That's clearly unbelievable, so yeah, it's that circle that FIS. Jesse Mihrab take the next. Get another win because I assume you will and and really put the that division on notices someone that he's GonNa. He's GonNa. Cause a lot of problems in that division. Casey Kenny is a legit. Bantamweight prospect a legit up and comer, and he tossed Casey Kennedy around like a rental. Car He wasn't. Tracy did not expect that at all. Already know your answer to this question is going to be already, but I'm gonNA. Take it away from you because I don't think Andre Philly versus Charles Day is under the radar at all heading into the scarred. What a great match! That's going to be, but other than that. Let's dig a little deeper. What is your under the radar fight heading into tomorrow night? Good question. That's a very good question. Charles Rosa fight I'm really excited for just because selfishly new. Englander and Charles Roses looking at bounce back. I think what is. It fought thirty five days ago or something crazy like that and you're like lately. Everyone's getting just mandatory thirty, thirty five or thirty day suspension, so it's like he's cutting a real close. really needs to erase that last. Performance against Bryce Mitchell, considering trousers talked a lot about his grappling, and how good he was, and declared himself the best grappler, one hundred forty five pounds, and you saw what happened against Bryce Mitchell now. This isn't one forty five at the. He bumped up a little bit because of the of the. Time to come and train, but also Charles. Fight I'm always excited watching fight. That's good one and they're finding a fifty five against. He's fighting. Kevin ocular in the UFC must've felt. KRISTA Christian Aguilera fight I'm really excited for only because I've covered a lot of his fights and LFA and he seems to be one of those guys. Where when I interviewed him on the regional circuit, he would be like one if I win tonight going to the U. of C., and he would always come up short or just have the greatest performance. Son's next fight as he wins to. To more than us. If I win this, I'm going to the and then it never worked out for him so to see him in the AFC just because I've seen his journey here is it will be I'm not saying he'll win or lose, but it's good to see and finally in there, because this that contract Bente, lot tool absolutely fighting Anthony Ivy who is an absolute finish aries added. That's rough, rough, hard appropriate. You'll see debut that you've worked so hard for unreal guys yet never got a decision in his entire career, so I don't expect that to happen here, but a guy with with a ton of potential coming out of LFA in on the regional seen over there. He's won two straight heading. The spite should be fun to kick off tomorrow night's card. I'm actually very excited. See Julia. Avi Lage is one of the fighters a lot of. One thirty five. She gets to make her sophomore walk tomorrow night against the returning. Gina Mazzoni and I have to say if you guys haven't watched what the heck yet watched by interview Gina Mazzone. She tells the craziest story about her UFC released. Like should even know. She was released seven months after the fact it took her talking to a different manager who manages are now obviously to find out that she wasn't on the car, just kept going to the Pi and getting all the treatment and stuff, but like Mick Maynard didn't have the heart to tell her she had been released because they were kind of like messing around with. There's such a crazy story booted up, but It is crazy. Man. Go check that out, but Jose. You've been you've been lagging those miles like Magellan Bro so go get some food. Get some rest. Of course. He will be on site tomorrow night. We'll be bringing you all things you have see Vegas tube before during and after this event, so keep it locked finding dot com to stay up to date on everything for Jose in Las Vegas. I Mike. Thank you for watching and we'll see you tomorrow night. I can't believe you're gonNA. Meet some terrible explorative pick. You're listening to medium Lanka's network.

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Ep. 3,063: UFC on ESPN 11 recap, Max Rohskopf, Curtis Blaydes, more

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Ep. 3,063: UFC on ESPN 11 recap, Max Rohskopf, Curtis Blaydes, more

"Him. Next time roll baby on May Junkie Radio with gorgeous Georgia go. This is what we do in why we do it baby. We're. Covering Ma from all over the world. This is the premier stop for all your combat. Sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and Casino in the fight. Capital of the World Las Vegas Nevada. The lights are on at the Mike Sir hot. It's tied to get your ever may fix junkies. Take it away. Big John Gorgeous George goes. Are you ready? Junkie. From the fight capital of the world inside our beautiful home in Las Vegas it's Demi Junkie Radio show the only show that matters and I'm your host Gorgeous George with. The devious goes are as co host. Goes. How was your weekend? Would you think of the fights? Would you think of the fights that are coming up? It's kind of Nice to keep saying that as this enemy, world just keeps turning intern. It's a big old cycle. Yeah. No fights were very exciting. This weekend was a lot of fun. And then got another car coming up, but then after that a little bit of break, and then it kind kinda gets crazy with violent. Big Time you know belated happy father's Day to all the fathers out there. We were able to chat with ours. He's in California, were in Las Vegas. We do have our mom out here. Hopefully you all are staying safe, I know it's really really tough times out there and it hasn't stopped for anybody, so stay strong people Let's talk some MMA on today show. We're going to discuss the results from U. OF C. ON ESPN eleven. Plus we'll preview the upcoming card headlined by Dan Hooker and Dustin Pedroia. That's on Saturday. That one's called. You see on ESPN twelve. Pretty good time for the of Seaman there on the leader folks prime time on Saturdays so good for them. Of course we'll discuss the latest anime news lots of controversy. stemming from? You've see on ESPN eleven versus Volkov and yeah, we'll touch on all the latest news nuggets as well so buckle up folks here we go. It's the enemy. Junkie Radio Show early, Monday June twenty second. Counter an NFL podcast from USA Today sports featuring four the winds Stephen Ruiz and Chris Cormon. Like this, assuming that this is an upgrade at the quarterback position I. Don't think we say that for back I'd say it's downgrade. Never really had deemed game impact just coming off the edge in destroying people that we saw when we saw athleticism college combine and counter diving deeper into the NFL with advance stats film study an expert guests. This is the counter listening subscribed to the counter on apple podcasts spotify Google podcasts, stitcher, tune in or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts live. I almost feel like we could spend half hour just on Austin. Hubbard versus Mash Max Roscoff. He's got a tricky last name. Now I'm saying Mash. Ever. Let me just go through. The results Will Circle Back Austin. Hubbard defeated Max Roscoff. in between rounds two and three, there was a TKO retirement. They call it Max. Roshkov decided not to the third round Lauren Murphy defeated Roxanne Fairy. But rather impressive performance. She got all the judges scorecards. Including thirty twenty seven Justin Gaines defeated Frank. Camacho kind of upset their first round. TKO Stoppage Jillian. Robertson defeated according to Casey. She actually submitted her at thirty towards the end of round three Marc Andre Barrio defeated Oscar Pio hedda. Hotter. was trying to listen to what John Anik said. think I got a close. TKO stoppage there around to T. Chautauqua is defeated Brianna van Buren area impressive upset not massively. Guy Be careful when it used the word huge because huge would be Sarah versus, DSP. Everyone I talked to was taken van Buren towards is coming off four losing streak, van. Buren was the favourite. Towards one thirty, twenty seven, so there you go! That was a big flip from a lot of people were expecting including yours truly lobby green defeated Clay Guido, he had a thirty, twenty seven, and to twenty nine twenty eighth was closer than the other ones. Jim Miller defeated Roosevelt Roberts rather quickly. Manny submitted on. We got him on an arm bar. Enron one below Mohammed and that was the beginning by the way of the main cars they were all on ESPN and he s PM, plus it was a simulcast. And so now we get to the main card. Were Miller did beat Roberts as I stated below Mohammed defeated. Lyman good via unanimous decision, Lyman good was apologizing on social media. He wanted to win one for his late father. twenty, nine, Twenty, eight, twenty, nine, eight, twenty, nine, hundred, and eighty, seven, really disappointed about one thing man. Alright like that I went down to the end. My opinion don't hang your head too low, and especially because this guy came off, covert memoranda keep an extra eye on Racquel Pennington defeated Mayan Renault thirty, twenty, seven to twenty, nine, twenty eight. Josh defeated Shane. Burgas man if not for Johanna. Zahn Waleed. This one would be talked about for fight to the year I mean. It was violent folks Curtis blaze defeated. Alexander Volkov, forty, nine, forty, six, forty, eight, forty, seven, forty, eight, forty, six, three different scores, pretty much domination. I don't think I saw forty eight forty seven, but. We'll definitely spend some time on that one. Well, the bonuses went to Burgos and Emmett no shocker, their performance nights Miller, and Justin Jane's How about the fact that that small cage is in producing as many? Finishes as decisions. That ratio towards the decisions because we had. Seven decisions. And four finishes. So yeah. Way More fights going to the judges than we thought. But anyway goes all right I even got the payout to your Mac and keep going, but let's let's circle back. To spend some time on it on spending back. Click at the very bottom with Roshkov. And, Hubbard and Blades Volkov so we. We're not gonNA have as much time to talk over there. Let's spend some time talking about it here. Would you think of Hubbard versus Roscoff and how it ended. I think. Depending on How you look at it, I think both guys have good cases. I see that social media is a little divided on it. It's very tough to say what a relationship is between a fighter and their coach. And In this particular instance. If you look at what Robert Drysdale did I think that's his job is job as the motivate the fighter? And I think that's what he did at the very end, he called it. But. A lot of people wanted to compare it to. kind of like fighters wanting to corners throw in the towel on Tony Ferguson. Anthony Smith. I don't think you can compare it to that. In this situation. You didn't have a fighter that was like. He wasn't injured. He was just hurt and I think that's where you kind of Lean Robert Drills Drysdale the know that relationship. With its fighter, so if you think about it. The Guy Lives with them. You know like he knows him very very well. And I think he was just trying to motivate Max to come out and do something, and he pushed it as far as he could to the end of the minute, and when that didn't happen, the fight was called, but Not Really GonNa know the ramifications of all this Max's career. Until later until we see what happens I, mean do to fight on five days, notice. Let's see what he's like when he gets a full camp. If? He turns it around and I. Think we all look at it and say. Maybe maximum Derek decision there's no sons and just walking out there just to get blitzed just so that you look tough and if he doesn't then, maybe you look back on point on that at that and say while Maybe that was something that. He lost his opportunity. and you said it. Specifically at the end that Robert did utter the words. We're calling it. He saw that too yeah. Because a lot of people were say stating that. It took. The Nevada State Athletic Commission. I forget his name. CHARVET's is name. Rain or something like that something big by gentleman. he's been around for a long time. He was watching the corner and he was noting that the fighter did not want to come out, and the coach was trying to motivate them to come out. I wouldn't say force him. He was trying to motivate them. Like. He didn't wave off the raft for the official, so he's going out. You know and and you know. Push everyone back into place. I don't mind what he did. He had sixty seconds to get them to breathe because he was basically. They were talking about it. 'cause Max wanted out from the minute. The round ended until he sat down and Robert was taking his time trying to convince them. That, he should keep going, but also hey. Give me a couple of breaths. Sit Down all that you have one minute to do all that. At the very end, Robert and Max boats. We call it. We call you know. So, he he did you know agree with fighter. His fighter was specifically asked just in case. So good riffing on March Smith's part I I. The commission official did a great job to spotting that. No sense in someone out there who realistically doesn't want to go out, but let's dissect that now. Should he have gone out well? What Robert was tone them get the tae down and lay on top of something like that I was telling goes the same thing. Get an early takedown. Just ride the guy because he took around one, he definitely didn't take around two, but if he took around one, he might be able to get out of there. At Twenty nine twenty eight. Fifteen minutes experience in the NFC, the jitters are at least the the worst jitters I think. You'RE GONNA. Get might be in your rear view mirror. You GET A win. You get your win bonus. And and that's an and no one's talking about you on Monday at least in regards to. You know quitting on the stool. Or however you want to call it. He'd letting not not to continue. And so I I have no problem with the fact that the Nevada state athletic commissions in open an investigation like on the one hand I wanna go I want to be one of those media folks goes. What does I think? And what are they thinking over there? You know like. You're crazy and just come in over the top look. I guess I thought about it, and it's their job to just make sure that everything's on the up and up, don't we? This isn't that what we want. Folks is for those types of situations to get reviewed, but I think what will happen is Bob. Bennett and his team will review it kind of talk it out like goes in. were price speak with both individuals or maybe everyone involved? Type up some sort of a report so that everyone covered but I don't think that's GonNa stop them from. Licensing Robert Drysdale the corner in the future I don't think it was charged us all a lot of media. Kinda like just over the top over the top like if you think he should have gone out there. They knew what's wrong with the sport. I mean relax, and then I heard Dana say If you're ridiculing this young man, fuck you. He actually said that. You know what I say goes, fuck them. No one's ridiculing them or just talking about it and questioning it. I think I saw a couple over the tops like he's in and I thought well look again. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. In what you say, you're responsible for your. You know. It's GonNa. Live on on twitter forever. At least unless you delete it and someone doesn't screen. Grab it, but either way was just such a mess seeing all that. Again I had no problem with Robert Pushing them to the end. I think what Robert was telling. Them was a couple of things one was. You'RE GONNA find out a lot about yourself. This is what we've been training like you said goes. I'm sure they've they've shared meals together. They've price shared conversations together. They've probably envisioned how the career is going to go. You know there's been a lot of promise for this kid and I think he was. Trying to do is best in sixty seconds to tell them. This might have some repercussions in fact. Remember somebody's guys like just in jeans. Max Roscoff a few of the others that you're seeing that antics and Brendan Fitzgerald and all them are saying they're kind of like late fill. INS Christine Aguilara week ago. Some of them may not them may have been part of the summer series. The the deny contender series thing. Nolan was saying that in one of his articles. And, so they're pushing them, because we need those bodies, and so a few of them may not get that second fight you don't you know most of the time it was like hey, did you go onto while then we got. You got to get more wins. You're not ready. Here might be different. They can cut you after after one loss so i. think that's what Robert was trying to encapsulate and sixty second like. Hey, this this might live on for a while like seriously. We're here. Get out there. Give me a takedown, or at least attempt at a takedown and I think he couldn't say it I think he said the minute I see you know. if there is a sloppy, take down, or if this guy just drills z. with something then before you can even finish you off unless it's a one punch, Marquan walk, walk off. I will notify the commission. I'll throw in the towel or I'll have. The fight stopped. By Gimme something in those first thirty seconds to a minute. Because you never know man and all I kept thinking about goes all the different stories you've ever heard of or watched or read about Shout out to Brian Salmon Salmon. WHO HAD US on? His Sport Show on NBC last night here locally in Vegas. Did you catch that yet. I haven't watched it okay in the house in it not. In. Not In our spot, but prior to he was discussing it with his team and one of them is Amber Dixon who a lot of people see covering. The sport is well here locally, and she was stating that she spoke to Smitty James. Smitty forget his. It may just be Smith actually. But Do you remember that gentlemen coming into our studio and talk on boxing? He's a local vegas. Reiner Smitty everybody respects him and everything. And she was discussing she was sharing this with the audience that she had been discussing with Smitty, and that conversation so I. Don't WanNa make it sound like on some boxing historian. I only heard this last night. That apparently Mohammed Ali wanted to quit begins Sonny Liston you know Roberto Duran did quit you know and he has shown regret because he knew that was a bad decision. He also knew he didn't have it. but you know that was just because he was pretty much on prepared and I guess. They said he had a steak that didn't sit right whatever, but are the way I've seen many specials where? He looks back as a at at at that moment you know. wishes he hadn't done that. Think about me, she was getting house. They walloped, but you know she's decisively losing her fight against Holly Home. She still goes out there and does what she needed to do to get. The take down to at least start something and goes all. This was in round five again a fight that's not going well while they're standing on their feet, and she became a world champion and I wasn't there. a year riot hall fight in Pittsburgh. Against was Chris Jaakko. And I remember. Took a beating at the beginning of the. I. Remember Eric Niksic Keeping Him in the game. You know what I mean and him coming about Coby Covington getting his job broken in round, two or three, and still going out there through a couple of times now. You stated this wasn't an injury, so we're pretty clear about that. We're not sending someone out with their eyeball, hanging out or anything like that. The Guy was just. Physically broken mentally broken, emotionally broken. You know but but We weren't sending one sending someone out there. That couldn't lift us to shoulders, and therefore he was just going to get peace up. and I think that's what Robert was trying to just give him in those sixty seconds, and I think that's what all well intentioned. Other athletes or other media or other vans were saying we've seen it. Folks It's happened. You know and and all that was trying to be communicated, and that's all we feel. We're not trying to send someone out there against a lion with no spear or anything like that. I I know. I just threw a lot at you so maybe I'm pack at all, but you know. Can you believe this is such a big story in either direction other than just? You. Know what Ha. What happened happened, but? Anyway? I I agree with pretty much almost everything you just said except the only one difference I think is. In those situations Kobe Covington. We should say like these are very experienced fighters and their fighters that. Had the benefit of an entire camp right. and. Max is a guy that came off five days. We don't know what kind of usually pretty good shape. But he didn't train for the opponent and those days are usually made up of. Lose this weight mostly spend us on trying to make sure you make weight for the fight, so it's not like you can go in there. And all of a sudden billed as cardio so. I've been there before where you just. You're just exhausted. Nothing in there. But I wasn't getting punched while I was trying to do. Whatever I'm trying to. I'm trying to run five miles. It's time or something. so. I can see how somebody could break. In the situation Ambi scared of being poster is in front of the entire world. and. He's young in his career. You Media Kobe already set their careers. They were also in fights. aches were bigger. Yeah, so Ko I mean we see like the way? Defy Games now. You only have so many of those. So maybe the kids just thinking. I'm not going to be on somebody else's poster just to look tough for everyone. That's a lot to digest and in between rounds I. Think Robert Did the best that he could with them. But now it's just kind of the balls and Max and and I'm actually surprised that. Dana White took the stance that he took because I think so many times. We see him sort of come out fighters. Things is the one time where I was pretty surprised that he actually had the fighters back. And if you're Max I, think you feel good about that. But you have to capitalize on that too and. Really turned things around and show everybody that you're different fighter than what we saw that night and you know round one. He looked like he looked like a fighter that belong there and then I think that's when it just set in. He just wasn't underprepared fighter and it wasn't really his fault. That said he still has to work a lot on his striking. Yeah, the wrestling seems fine. The jujitsu seems fine. The blending of the two you know. He was going after different types of tags so. attack I believe in the second round, and then the first round has gone for his patented takedown. Work to a dominant get that Renuka choke. Excuse me thought I haven't seen. But. Now thought but anyway. What I did want to say was one of the first things I saw on. Twitter was a tweet by bread Akimoto from ESPN saying a member. You only have like one hundred forty characters on two hundred eighty characters something like that. You were saying that Dana had I said Hey. Maybe this kid isn't ready. Maybe this isn't for him. So when I like Oh. He's fucked. You know what I mean like. He's not getting that second fight, but. As you can see on enemy junkies youtube page, youtubecom youtubecom forward slash enemy junkie video the whole press conferences. They're like go said. Dana white goes on to say hey, look. If. You're not ready. You're not ready. I have nothing against him going out there and electing not to continue or quit, or however you want to categorize it. And so it looks like he will maybe at least have maybe the benefit of of a second fight. I think you absolutely have to give it to him. Just because of the look that it's GonNa give if he doesn't because there's not. There's a lot of people that just. Covered this on television. That didn't really give you. All of the pieces of the puzzle, so the way they portray things was roure was like trying to feed him to the Lions and they didn't even mention the part that at the end he did actually stop the fight so in other people's eyes. They're gonNA. Look at it, as will you'll see just wants people out there and get jacked up him I think they have no choice. They have to give him a second fight. It would look really bad. Yeah, well I hope. He hope he gets one to with full camp. Definitely for sure look, you won his first fight. I think he finished them all. and. That's why he had so much height, but Anyway folks. I was just the first fight of the night. Lauren Murphy good for her late resurgence in her career, remember she got. A little pissed on that season of the ultimate fighter, and and since she's done very well for herself, so you gotta give her a shot up just in jeans, also trains extreme tour. He went out there and he just got. He started Landon Hooks on Camacho tough son of a bitch man and he didn't stop the on. You could just see his face. What do we do you like? I'm happy and I'm reacting. And who and he was processing, it seemed like his reaction was like three seconds behind what had already physically happened like he literally was just so intense. Didn't know where to Ron what to say, but he was so excited, but he literally debuted a few days notice and got the win so good for him. We see this guy at extreme couture. All the time to he does his thing and then i. think he trains the kids. We usually see on the way. He's training the kids. he also played on the extreme couture team when we played them junky nation versus extreme couture and flight for bar remember him. Mentioned mackey, Potolo, andbranch bars and Eric Niksic, and Boston Salmon so orioles had our hands full that day, folks. We had elite one nothing all right Jillian. Well, you won't say anything about just ginned. Well I I just thought what was surprising was beat. Camacho. Income Wacho fashion it was. That's what. Probably the game plan. You would say whatever you do. Don't get involved in that type of fight with this guy. And he did, and he came out on the winning end Definitely. Julian Robertson defeated Courtney casing. And so that's the second flyweight fight of the night. Because remember Murphy beat mortar fairy. These are all the ladies that are angling to get to Valentina Shangqiu. Real quick being on that Lauren Murphy is thirty six years of age. And she is one. Four of five so remember. The season didn't go well for her, but she did win in the finale against Bob Haunt tack. Who was considered the number one going into that season? This was back in two thousand seventeen. Then she dropped one, too the. Banks and the now she's one three in a row, including Roxanne a fairy. Andrea Lee and Mara Romero Baramulla, so all decent fighters on the Jillian Robertson side. She's only twenty five years of age she. Since fighting in that finale has gone. Let See. She's one three or four, and she's one five and two since that season so. She's doing right to man Good for both of them. I just wanted to put it a little bit in context. With. What's happening in that division? That division is basically bouncing Shinco and then I think. Most people can name to others Oh. There's Jessica I and Caitlyn Chiquet and the only reason is 'cause. You just think about the last two people that Valentino embarrassed you know and. Anyway Marc Andre Reo got the wind. He should torres boy back to the wall What did they say when they We said she might have a chip on her shoulder member. When the fight was announced, did say what was the opposite of surging or streaking Teasha is like sinking. No, maybe something like that. Seeking Torres gets last. Fine. Remember there was A. On Junkie. Headline what we were like! It wasn't really. What's the word? The word was one of those like where I never read that it'd be like beat. Anyway, she started off ten in one. In now, she was ten and five going into this. she needed that win I. Look, she's popular. She's Brazil's partner. Those two are probably to Dana White's favorites. She's a formidable young lady. Who during her time? As a fighter has actually finished her masters degree like she's very very impressive when you talk to her sweet girl to met her in the studio. But. You can't go and for. Much less Oh and five. But that performance finally fact I said it even before the fight. She just seems to have a repetitive game plan. And the last thing, and she loves the stand, but she doesn't seem to have the big Ko power now. A Ko didn't take place, but she was thrown. Finally goes with some ferocity in like she was landing a few where I think. She Got Bran Van Buren definitely back off. She definitely hurt her She's throwing differently. You know she. She's known for that little I mean that's why they call it a tornado the tornado. Could you just got that little style? But she was thrown a lot of straight punches, and I think it really caught her opponent off guard. she had started off ten in one like I, mentioned her only loss was to nominate Eunice, but she had also beaten ominous, so she was. She was off to a good start. I! Remember. WHAT HER SEASON! I remember thinking. That was Myrlie pick to win the whole thing. Anyway, Bobby Green got the best of Clay Guido to veterans of the sport I don't know if I said it like this, but I really felt like. The loser might. Be Done in the AFC. Bobby Green had a two fight losing streak going into this fight. Prior to that he had a win and a draw, and then prior to that he had three straight losses. But you know as these guys start to make a little bit more money, and if they're not fighting frequently if they're not making their mark sometimes, it's just time for you to go in quake clueless. Klay Guidos spot. He's Uber Popular. He just registered with the fans. He may always have a spot now as long as he wants, but to be fair, he had lost. Two of his last three so now it's three of his last four. If you include the green win. Miller losses so quick. The Jamila was a guillotine choke one minute in the one win sprinkled amongst the three losses. In that four fight run? was the bj Penn on Bj's just not what he was, so that's why there's not too much stock raise. In that win at that point. Then you go to Oliveira. He got submitted their in Chicago. That's his hometown I was in one minute to. That's why I felt like. You Know Hey, once these guys up there and they're making a lot. You know I I. Don't Know How long they keep your home. We'd is thirty eight. So. He's given us some classics back in the day bird anyway. it's another one. What can I say I love that slapped. His brother gives them. Jim Miller yet Jim Miller we just talked about him. He defeated Roosevelt Roberts. The guy just doesn't stop. That's thirty five fights. He's had. That is Kaiser Rony. Every time you want to count that dude out he. It's like an alligator lime disease. He has Thirty six years of age. I mean in such a Nice Guy, too. He's won three of his lines for his only loss was to Scott Holtzman. before that he went one in one area win over Alex white loss to Charles Lavar now before that he had a four five losing streak, killers hooker Tornado, pettus and Before that he had three fight win. Streak decent names Alba's lasana going. So, He's at an up and down man, but I guess he's always ready to fight. You know and so the UC really really loves them. So. Congrats to him and he got a bonus man couldn't. Doesn't get any better than that. In the really really stacked welterweight division belong Muhammad defeated linemen good trae fight. It was a great fight fight, but you had reason to cheer for both guys. You see what allow Muhammad what his family's gone through. You seen what lyman good has gone through personally. That it was reason to cheer for both guys. they both tug on your heartstrings, and they went at it. I was trained for Bahama 'cause I. Bet on them. But I thought my goose might be cooked. 'cause lyman good was just stockins, Dunkin and throwing hard. And Mohammed had good movement in the the commentators. This time I was pissed, being crews and Anik. They were noting how what's helping Mohamed is. He's not stationary now. Can he do that for the whole fifteen? Apparently he could man. Good for him. He had some really really nice. Take downs, though good was able to get back from a couple of those, but it was, his technique was really great. Man Muhammad. to work with aspirin and woody when they're around over there at Duke Rufus Jim. Pennington defeated Marin Renault. You know it will actually pretty fun fight even though I went to a decision, they went out. They did I was kind of frustrated because I was looking at Pennington housing. Why couldn't you fight holly homeless exact same way like? She was really really pushing it. You could tell I want to say. There was desperation on her part. You could tell she was on a tough situation and she needed to win, and she pushed a little bit harder in this fight, and it was. It was fun to watch, and I think Renault. Fightback is best she could. I, feel like that's the type of fight. Where they fought ten times. It's not gonNA. It's not GONNA go paintings way every single time. It was competitive. You're right. She had lost three or four coming in. She was ten and eight overall. She's beloved by Dana White. she's got to be one of his favourite talks about her a lot. She had a four five win streak going into the Amanda Nunez fight, so she deserved title shot. She lost the title shot in round five remember. Those kind of had a controversial one as far as like. Should she keep going going back to the whole Roshkov conversation. But since then. after that she lost Germain. beat Irene, Aldana Lost Holly Home, and now beat Marin Renault, so she'll get another fight both her anticipatory is one so good for them. You know what's funny is I. Look at this Irene Aldana fight? She wanted by split decision. If she had lost it, she would add four fight losing streak going into the Marian Renault fight. In Irene all Donegal if she had laws that she'd have a six fight win streak. and. Then man is wouldn't be able to go. I got no one to fight. You know what I mean, 'cause. It's still impressive. She's won five of six two in a row, but that one little loss of stopped her from being able to brag about a A six five streak all because of a split decision. let's finish up here with Josh Emmett and chamber goes. Where do you begin? I kinda wanted to sit back and watch it all over again. I mean those to throw in every type of attack. You could possibly think of in that fight, and what a great great fight and I have a feeling. This isn't going to be the last time we see these to fight. I think down the road. We could see him. Do it again had a little bit of a Stout Fisher feel to it right little bit. Could stand after all that. We neither. They folks. It's like two guys that. Bumper cars on the street and you ever see those videos where you say. Hey, look look, look, look, look, timing, year and one guy goes through his Trunk and pulls out a Bat, and the pulls out of tired, and they start swinging at each other you know, and then everyone around the other cars are all you can hear his. ooh, Oh Shit! No, we didn't. Call Nine one one. I mean. It was violent folks. Was it the best by the COVID era? Now. I don't WanNa just jump on and go fuck. Yeah, and then you go all what about in Jacksonville 'cause I can't remember but. I think so yeah, or at least yeah. I mean if I if I get a chance to scan back real, quick and report back on Thursday show. I'm pretty sure could hold up. Dinky USC should do a bonus for like five of the year something. Send each guy a car. For, fight of the year. Yeah, that'd be cool both guys interesting I mean, do they do it or do they let the World Emmy awards dictate I. Think they do it because if if fans vote, I'd love to see both guys standing next to a What's that car? You like the lion roar. The ranger kind of what their keys around Christmas. Time a things, Dana Y, you know, a spilled a little bit of blood, but there's got to be more than a car. Though right well, it depends on what car though because the regular fifty grand right. Yeah. I got five of the year. It's gotTa be a lot. Two Hundred Zero Lexus or I don't know I. Mean You you WanNa send these guys like. Yeah. That'd be dope. I mean the more the Merrier. Yeah, that's for sure, but I don't know I mean that. That's where all the sudden I. Don't know if you'll get those guys to do it You know you see just the UC's trying to cover up for the other stuff. That's not working at Endeavour I. The UC definitely's making money even now. during covid nineteen era. I think they're still. They're still doing well in different spots member. They grew UFC fight pass. they got that big ESPN deal. Think Reebok about to finish and Nike or under armour about the slip been. The well their sponsorships. I'll never say they've killed it. They're still see McKee's or something like you don't just feel. Like. Those I mean I, Dunno I you watch Manchester United and you see like Ooh. Blow watches Chevrolet. You know I mean like actual fortune five hundred. In the UC. You'll see some pretty cool stuff, but it's like a movie premieres. I think someone someone needs to dial in some big big sponsorships and. To sell them and then go and tell you what conor McGregor will be at the grand opening. I don't know it's weird because if you see the big boxing match is. Like. To See Nicer big. Or something on on the Burger, and that's it. You know like they must give a lot of money. To have that one feature spot definitely I mean models, pig models part of krona, right thing, corona own the middle or Salat. Oh. All right so listen folks watch Burgos and Emmett. You'll love it. Watch it with a buddy who hasn't seen it and just feed off of them. The only thing I didn't like was at the end. I thought the fight was still winnable for Burgos, but he was just letting amid get. Shots, in has because his hands weren't in was tawny, and who knows if that made the difference He had the reach advantage. He was also kicking him in the cavs and Josh Emmett apparently may have had a severe knee injury were hearing maybe a possible. ACL Tear. That's how he described so literally. Burgos GonNA. Look back and go I'm I'm somebody what the fuck you know like fifty grand cool fight of the night but I lost and. That's a second loss you know first one was the Colin Cater analysis to Josh and if you look at the records. Burgos. In the UCLA on. Six in one going in. Managing to get to seven and one, and and you're only losses. Calvin cater who didn't finish you the. or No, he hit. Yeah, he did finish them leading around three. That would be a pretty impressive. You know he would just continue to to keep climbing, but let's talk about Josh among other ways. We'll never be able to get on the show. Josh Emmett is saying Hey. Stop doubting me enough. You know I'm really says I'm going to stop doing media with so many fools as soon as he said it, I started turning because I thought man I'm I'm pretty sure I didn't take him the staff picks. he came out in one two in a row lost desmond. Green then won four in a row. artists and llamas then lost Jeremy Stevens and then Cincinnati beating Michael Johnson. Mercedes backed again chain Burgos. I think I might be one of those guys to that. I think. He's burned me before on picks in so. He's just He's a good fighter when he's on his great, but sometimes you just gives you that performance where you're like can't really figure out where this guy's at so. I don't know I mean I'd like to talk to them again. Hopefully will talk to us, but I think we both picked against him and I wanna Sam pick against him and his last couple I might be one and might be one of the main guys these talk about if you look at staff picks now. Well. He was impressive. I can't deny that dude hits hard. He keeps coming after you and you can't question. His toughness he's one of the hardest citizen. I division for sure we'll have to wait and see what is injury is and hopefully it's not serious. Hopefully, it's spraying. He was getting hit on the. A that just looks alone but be. He? Had A he did suffer knee injury like fifteen seconds in. so we wish the best, and of course the main event. Curtis Blades defeated. Alexander Volkov why don't I? Let you lead off on this one? What were your thoughts on that fight and then everything that came after it, and we'll still be either yet to come or maybe won't come. For the winner Curtis Blades. I mean he told us going in exactly the type of fight. He was gonNA fight and I think we'd all be stupid if we thought he was into something else he. It shocks me. How many people are so critical of of the way? He fights I mean they put them in that main event? The way, the match up was bill. You knew that he had to fight that way. It's not like he does it. Every I mean every fight. He uses his wrestling. which if I'm his coach? What I'm telling them to do, but he also strikes you know and yeah. He got tired towards the end. but I'm GonNa let that pass and the era that we're in right now. Me still cross the finish line. He's still one dominant a dominant performance over very good fighter. I think of that had around six. He might be in trouble, but he. Die In the post fight interview. Yeah, he was hurting really really bad, but. As far as like not being able to talk shit or whatever like to winning man. What do you want from him I mean he's winning if he ever problem with a style then. I don't understand why you're putting them in that situation, but I don't know that he has. I. Don't know that anyone outside. Maybe three people in the UFC can ever sit back and go I'm next I know that shot malignly like especially if you have ceased coming down on you for the way you fight. Not doing media stuff like that like you're just not going to be one of their favorites, and he's in a situation right now with the heavyweight division where he's got the two losses to Ingong new The belt is tied up right now. I don't see a scenario where he doesn't take another fight before and let all this play out of the White Zombie. Sit on the sidelines for a while. I agree it's fifteenth is coach Cormie. Let's just say. Let's say it ends decisively. I'M NOT GONNA throw the scenario. What if it's a draw because it's one one right now? One guy wins the same Yoji twins well. Then I think it's meal Jutras in Ghana to. Let's say Korea wins well then I think it's. I mean what do you do? OATMEAL laws were still shoving them in there because it's vacant now against God him. I mean he might have the case because you might say shelvin someone in there who I beat because remember cormet would have retired. Or. Do you go in Ghana versus blades three? No, not after that performance, you could tell Dana White's on happy. You know I don't know but. More than likely. Meal. If you wins will fighting gone? Who and that's just the soonest? I could see that as December. Therefore we're in June. And then let's see in January whoever wins fights three months later. That's April I mean that's ten months away. He's take another fight. Yeah and he needs in Ghana to lose because as long as in Ghana's either winning, or you know, it's going to be tough to get the second shot third shot even when he's champ and it's going to be tough to To get ahead of mother both winning regardless of what else having. Didn't look bad, you could tell. He worked on his wrestling Curtis blazes just a tough tough dude to fight. He so committed to his wrestling and. And I think Alexander Volkov I think can gain a lot from that from that match up. It's just a tough tough match-up for him. So. What are you GonNa do Dana White. was definitely critical, and he said blades at talk some. Talk some Shit. But the title man. wight two blades after win. You look stupid now that that title right there on my old cow. That'd be tough for two friends to say to each other. Let alone an employer and employee right the the the rest of it is. You look stupid after failing. To backup talk in you of SEON ESPN win eleven win, but. Junkie. It just says you look stupid. It had over one hundred thousand shares so that story definitely definitely blew up He said I like Curtis Blades, but curtis blades is the wrong attitude. As far as I'm concerned. I don't have anything against the kid at all. But when you talk shit like he did this week, you'd better come in and whip somebody's ass. When you talk like that when you talk the shit that he did and perform like he did tonight. You look stupid. Yeah, he won. He talked a lot of shit coming in this week. We put the same. The editorial about that anyway. Did. He say something about the promotion do. About fighter pay was any one of those guys that's. I think that's more of what white. pissed about not that he's remember. There was a tweet that said of y'all are thinking that this is GonNa. Blah Blah Blah. Shows that to their credit. You basically said I'm just. GonNa. I'M GONNA. Do what I do, which is take someone down and smash them. You know and he was doing it for a while. He just couldn't. It wasn't beautiful because he was so stuck on dominant positions, but there was no advancement, and that's where Credit Volkov in a couple of times, Dean said all right. We got to stand back up so and also. When you? Imagine being. can I put this. Imagine being the the the model that walks the runway after Giselle Bloomington. Man Let's just say you're really not known for. Your striking looks us have a good body. You know maybe a butter face whatever and you gotta go after her imagine being the quarterback for the Patriots this year. You know that's what these guys were doing. Coming in as Emmett and Burgos were were leaving. Those who are walking and go. How do we top that? You know want to be in that position. Yeah, so. It was a fun night. It was a weird night, but it was fun night. Lonzo happened we did our best there to recap before you guys as I do. With all of these receive. I, can catch goes off. Guard goes real quick. Gate and attendance for Saturday night. Oh easy peasy. Zero which one though where our? The trump rally. Are we talking? It was six zero. They're expecting one nine, zero zero zero. I had to take that. Burn guys. Yeah! zero ten zero gate is what it's at folks. the is Dustin Pedroia versus Dan? Hooker you'll see our picks on the front page of ENEMY JUNKIE DOT COM. You'll know where we stand, but is there anything you want to say on? That card goes Now you have this format on the hooker yet. Either the car the fight itself amendment all the main event. It's awesome. It's GonNa be so good. I can't wait to see that fathom be. Going to be fun, because both guys styles don't allow for it to be a boring fight. It's going to be really really fun and it's GonNa. Come down to a big check for both of those guys. They both have great skills whilst Mike. Parry versus Makiko. That Mickey Gall better get him down quick or something that they definitely can't be exchanging on the feet I agree and then after that folks, we have a week off and all the fights will start taking place at y'all's island in Abu Dhabi including UFC two fifty. What are we had to fifty one The has three title fights Uis. Mon-. Defends Volkogonov ski defense, and then the title left vacant by Henry Saluda will be filled either by Peter Yawn or Josie Aldo unless they pull A. Figueredo Ben Evita's. Remember those guys were supposed to One of them was supposed to become a champ. And figure out a one, but didn't make weight, so they're running it back and they're running back a week later, so we're even creeping up on that one too so. Dina's not lying when he says there's a lot a lot. happening. In the in the coming month of July, no international fight week here in Las Vegas. Let's put postponed till the fall along with that comes the hall of fame. The World Emmy awards the World Emmy Awards isn't affiliate with UC the kind of piggyback that whole, Week and then UCF east at least two three cards the thing. I don't think during a go to cards deep, but still they do a lot of stuff around town, and just right now town is not what it was it slowly. com back, but we're also slowly. having a surging cove nineteen cases so everywhere out there. Please be careful. Keep wearing. That mask is all I can say hopefully enjoy today show. We're going to be back on Wednesday at noon eastern nine am Pacific. On Sports Caster, good a sportscaster, and you can catch us in the video form. It's sportscaster dot, com, junkie There's no IAN in Caster, so it's SPO. RT, S. T. R.. DOT, com forward slash junkie. and. Of course we'll be back on Thursday with another episode so until then go out there and beaching.

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On To the Next One: Episode 15 | Matches To Make After UFC 254

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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On To the Next One: Episode 15 | Matches To Make After UFC 254

"You're listening the box media. Yes network. Well Oh there, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of on to the next one may fighting dot com matchmaking podcast, and this week we discussed the potential futures for some notable names from Saturday's excellent UFC, two, fifty, four events, and one of those notable names hub even amalgamate off will not be match made for despite successfully defending his title remaining the UFC lightweight champion the world because after his victory, he announced his retirement from the sport after he submitted just engaged in the second round. So that makes things. A little bit more interesting for myself. By the way I am Mike Catt can being joined. With. My Co Matchmaker Co host my best friend at this point and just all around terrific individual. Mr Alex Gaily are you my friend what was my best friend? I. It's funny. We were. We were kind of sorting out during the card like, okay it's Pretty obvious. We're going to our show is going to look the six main card fights that at all the all the winners put on pretty compelling performances would make us WanNa talk about the more make you want again, more seats pretty simple, and then have you kind of throw everything into chaos a little bit at the end of the night with that with that retirement announcement, which in retrospect now, we should be like, okay, it wasn't like super surprising but for some reason, for some reason, just not something I considered I don't know why I was always thinking who's going to at least one more fight possibly more I. Don't know why but I. Got Dazzled by the the thirtieth. as if that really matters to even team so. We shouldn't have been surprised that makes a lot of sense I wrote about it this morning. So very good timing for that. But the other thing I wanna say I'm into retirement gymnastics system I don't know how it works for. US I don't know if it works for sports, events it. Certainly, why didn't he works for movies and other forms of entertainment but I think I don't I don't know I I don't think I gave a number on the preview show, but it wasn't like a ten. This event was pretty close to attend if we're just talking about quality of fights and finishes and how eventful it was is about as close as you can get. So we've got like just back to back just like fire events. So file in the second ship to fight island may be better than the I was gonNA. Ask You was this the best pay per view event of twenty twenty. My memory is terribly these days. I am not a Jose Young's type but I off the top of my head I certainly can't remember when that was better I I would just I would say, yes. Yeah. I mean it's probably between that and to forty nine but to forty nine was again like. We're just waiting for something to happen. It was like the rebirth of sports in the United States. So there's obviously that intrigue and all those things attached to it, but this is this is a pretty, damn good car and I think the fact that it started at eleven am eastern standard time just made it that much better ak but. Right. Now we do not have lightweight champion of the world. So rather than matchmaker for Habib who will not have an opponent anytime soon or at least we don't think he will. You had an interesting idea. Did you not? I said well, I, guess we just as well book a vacant lightweight title for the. That's that's the next thing they should do cer- certainly, the the topic of tournament has been brought up to which I laughed because the UC will not do that because there's very very tournament adverse, which is bizarre given that they were founded on a tournament that that was still held in high regard by the fantail quite fondly. So Number I should get more credit. It's possible to kind of hear this groundswell of tournament talking back. This is a good mark opportunity. Bring up all the old gracie footage are Jimmy Johnson. and. Ken shamrock stuff and That'd be cool. They did that instead it back to a tournament days but it would also take a long time It's just not how their contracts really work either. Don't want to do it that way. So. It might be TV whoever? One fight one fight for the title and that's that's we gotta talk about. All right. Well, why don't you start us off like what should we do with lightweight title? I'M GONNA pose this way. What should we do and what will they do because it's probably two different answers. Boy I mean, what should they do I honestly I still think I still WANNA. See Justin gave the fight for lightweight again, maybe maybe I just WanNa, see him on pay for you and I want to go five rounds because. These great I. Yes. He was soundly defeated by Magomadov, but to me that says a lot about beef greatness nothing bad about Ghaith Gee Gee just I couldn't find a better short. Of course he lost I'm sure you know it's it's foolish to say he couldn't afford a better fight, but I don't know if anyone's being that person of a show. So I want us to involve but let's my should. But I I also couldn't really work on a scenario where makes a lot of sense? So for me and I definitely talked about this after the after the day I I'm Michael challenged to be involved they won me over with how they've been promoting. He's doing all the media rounds he's been he's been doing forty five minutes to an hour long scrums the man can. Talk He's certainly very comfortable with it and they had him on the show yesterday they ran a promo even though doesn't have fight schedule which I can't remember the last time they ever did that is the promos ready because he might have had to replace one of the main event is but they used it. That's just smart us what you have. So I want involved and I think the guy want him to fight. Is Tony Ferguson for vacant title. I. Feel like Tony Yes. He lost a gave g but he still has the look that's what. So twelve he lost. He lost one of his last thirteen. Quite let's not let's not forget how great this guy is So challenge. Match I just think it'd be entertaining fight it would feel just very fresh. And it'd be a weird scenario where neither fighter would be coming up USC win beginning tell shot. Berry Twenty twenty. Twenty Twenty So the correct I mean the correct answer of what we should do is just weird and it doesn't like you don't have to bill it as a tournament like you don't say this is a tournament for me tell you could just like. Make a bunch of matchups and we can all we could decipher ourselves that it's like a tournaments quasi tournament to figure this out. It's like if McGregor emporia fighting January, let's just put like all these matchups on that same card and look like what's going to end up happening is McGregor emporia GonNa fight for the title. There's just no way around I would be absolutely shocked if that doesn't happen at this point, that's what I think ends up. happening the rest of the guys you just kind of seed how you see fit. So like is same card gauge versus Chandler because I think gauges the top drank guy at least in the UFC's is chandler is the untested guy in the AFC so he would be like the bottom of the four. So gay versus Chandler Gauges the top rank Guy Chandler's there. It's the fight Chandler ones anyway. So there you go. Then Tony Ferguson gets in there. And this is where it gets tricky because you've got Dan Hooker ranked at number five. But Charles Oliveira's ranked number six I'd go with all their in that spot. He's coming up the he's on a nice little winning streak right now hookers coming off of a loss of dozen. Unfortunately that leaves Mr Hooker on the sidelines but the two winners those fights can square off winner fights winner of that fight fights against McGregor portray. I think this is the best way. Unfortunately, none of that is probably going to happen. Pirker. Still, fight like one of the loser these matches frankly if if they're just going to do one match up for the title, I would do chandler versus gateway or Ferguson. Like you said, it's just such a cluster f but let's be. Let's be reported. McGregor is going to be the title fight. If that's not the case I would be completely bewildered and shocked. But let's just put matchups between. Ferguson should be on that card Chandler should be on that card gauges should be on that card, and if you WANNA put hook around, they're fine you wanna put all on their fine but that's how they should do it I know I took us on a journey but I feel confident that a pretty decent chunk of that will play out in some way I go even longer I thought you were going to look at eight Mansfield eight-man unofficial field because then you could fit in hooker because I guess you said so you said Gigi, Chandler Ferguson the Bronx, and then I guess you and then somewhere in there you mix in Dan Hooker he looks at. The odd man out Kevin Lee. mean he just. Maybe. felder. Then Hukou fell again. But I. I'd be down to see that I'd be done to see three more rounds of three to five rounds of that fight. Diego Fajita. Fiesta I like. He was supposed to fight drew Dover then he got injured. He thinks he can come back in December dovers gonNA move on I. Think for hand has better than like I. Think he deserves it opportunity like that. Honestly I think he's that good. I think he is that legit drag number eight the problem is he just lost all that momentum from finishing Anthony pedestals he hasn't fought since then. Yeah. The only the only top ten guy on my rankings. Gregory Gillespie. That's all because we don't know where he the. But yeah. If he came back, they WANNA throw him in the tournament. He's six and one right he has, I know the the last losses race sticking in people's minds but he was on a hell of a run before there was talk. lost. So I hope they do some sort of informal tournament like. You know make the marketing clear that like this is a new a new dawn of the lightweight division and you know, and then you run a problem with all these names in the But yeah, you're right. They don't need to be cool if they did. But I also understand why why they wouldn't Dan Hooker and Dan hookers the alternate. There you go. One of these guys can't make it your slide hooker in there. So he's got he's a role as well. But we will see how that plays out. layaway just got very, very interesting heading into twenty twenty one. We'll definitely discuss more about Habib retiring the legacy behind behind throughout the week on between the links aside and other shows. But one, fifty five as of right now is the biggest story heading in two thousand, twenty one. So I mean do even match make for gates you do we just kind of do that we just did that right engages should be yeah. I mean I don't know what else he's in the mix. Yeah, he's in. He's in the next. He's at the top of the mix I guess doesn't really have dimensions but the mix head dimensions he's at the top of the mix. Yes. I would agree with that so. So. Let's go to the Komen event. We saw Robert Whitaker Defeat Jared cannier almost finished them in the third round what a great fight that was by the way at one hundred, eighty, five pounds it seems like. All signs are pointing towards Robert Whitaker, fighting Israel out of Sonya once again I think that will happen eventually I don't think it happens next for out of Sonya and I think that the five between Darren till Jack Hermansson has gotten much bigger since Saturday and the reason is. I assigned. He's not gonNA wait six months to fight again. I just don't see it happening like we're we're we're out of where sunny fights like eighty five to I've no clue. But he's not gonNA WANNA. Wait till April to fight Rabah whittaker whitaker can take all the time off. He wants the man. Wants to have the holidays be their focus on the birth of his birth of child like this is kind of a week answer, but it's what everyone else swans anyways. His next fight will be for the belt I mean that that's what I'm GonNa. Say I have no opponent I assume we'll be out of Sonya. Yeah. Absolutely should be a title shot when that happens no idea but his fight should be for the belt kind of a weekend AK. So it's a logical. There's no reason that Robert, whitaker she had to fight anyone again before getting Z. Rematch As you said, look the be the happiest guy besides for that win was Darren till steering till knows I beat Ib Jacker Manson I'm getting the shot. There's there's some buzzed between me and is he ever since I even before he moved up to one thousand, five he was there some some some talk there so. He has to get that went Hermansson it's not quite as clear. I wouldn't mind it. I and I, and I believe I believe he was one of the names that is he mentioned mentioned Jerry I of course after beating Paul cost and I think her mom was in there I think he threw his name and there he's he's really smart with setting up next flight so. It wouldn't be terrible. I'm here medicine again, he lost cannon near that's fine but went over till the finish you can talk people into it wouldn't be it wouldn't be a blockbuster pay per view but at least at least as he gets himself, another challenger Patil would certainly be. Easy He. He beats her medicine. It's a lock getting in there So yeah. No I don't have much more episodes. Yeah. whitaker enjoy your holidays. Blessings to your child is coming in January and just wait to fight easy again there's that's that's that's many many people have gotten remembered for less without having to get to two very good winds has done. He's contender still. Yeah I, think that fight is much more important I. think it's more important. I think it's just as important more important than the wind itself is that till or and finish that fight very quickly and is able to turn around very quickly like they have to be like their mentality is, i. have to go finish this guy in the first and second round and get ready to fight in January or February because I think that's that's the only way that they skip the queue and skip rabble whitaker and that's if you decide to stay at one eighty, five Dana White's in saying it's great to have options and that man has a lot of them. So how? `bout how `Bout Jared Kenan area. First loss since dropping down to one eighty five, you very good showing for himself into I. Think a lot of people overlook how good Cananea wasn't that fight those leg kicks are great. The ability he had to survive that onslaught I thought that was over he gets up to his feet and almost knocks out whittaker in the third round of that fight. He was it was a closer fight than the scores indicated. He does that finish David Branch Anderson Sovereign Jacker Manson along the way he's an he's despite the last he's still a pretty decent spot. What is next for the killer gorilla? Jerry cans fault that one legged whitaker is like ninety percent as effective as one hundred full strength whitaker that was like it was after around was getting killed. Kill and though he wasn't selling it, you could tell. You can tell whitaker. took away some of his explosiveness but again, he's such a great athlete it taking away some explosive just made him rely more on his fundamental technical skills which we know he has So he just he look, you just can't beat you know he didn't. He didn't have a bad form until he got beat by a better fighter. That's why that happens to a lot of fighters. That's like. this matchup sought around social media camera. Exactly. WHO said, it might have been more than one person and once I saw I was like, okay, it just makes sense I can't get ahead Paulo Costa Cananea Apollo Kosta right it. It seems like a no brainer of yet. Awesome awesome flight someone someone's getting knocked out great tests for both guys. Whoever wins gets the title shot it. It's simple I. Think. We were talking before the show and I was saying I think for the most part this car pro out of a couple of names. Pretty easy to match people up and this is one of them. So CANANEA, Paul Costa I think everyone wants to see it Let's do that. Damn. I. Mean. That's that's my to the the other option that I do have. y'All Romero I'm cool with that to you undo Kanye versus Romero signed me up for that. But at the end of the day, cannon air should have already gotten his freaking title shot. Let's give them the opportunity to get back against the last man to fight for the title. So Heavyweight Division. Alexander Volkov puts away Walt Harrison. The second round Drago looked great in the fight he picked while the part eventually got the stoppage after just a painful brutal need to the to the solar plexus and. This is interesting because it's kind of tough. The same time because there's a bit of a logjam in the heavyweight division like we have a lot of fights booked up steep abors Franson Ghana who was the heavyweight title fight that isn't going to happen until at least March of next year as looks right now. So To I mean to me, it's a two horse race. It's ouster over him and it's jars senior Rosen's strike both are fine. Bow Cough wants to Jersey Neophyte I'm okay. With that I think overeating is more in the title hunt than both of those guys right now because of who he is the story line of one final run at the title. So I say, let's give volkoff what he wants. Let's give Jersey no overeating can fight Derek Lewis win or lose depending on how he fares against Curtis Blades that's my pick what do you think? I'm glad you mentioned the logjam in heavyweight. That is what has made some of our. We had a lot of heavyweight fights over the last couple of months or so, and that's what it has made. A tricky is kind of have. We kinda even the same names lumps because nobody can really within the division This is sucks as France. Gun always eloquently puts on his tweets. And of course, he's the he's the man who would know the most how much this situation is sucks as it were because he should have had a title fight like four months ago I don't know but I agree I think. They were supposed to fight Saint Petersburg Russia April of last year. I think when we did the matching for over aim after his last fight I said well, I said Volkov. If he beats Harris, which is what happened and this was in September I said at the still to fight to make so Yeah. He named a few people in his post fight. I think he was saying like Oh you know I want to get Volkov. Did he want to get some names towards tyler? He mentioned over him he mentioned Jairzinho, he's just tried to mentioned Jairzinho. Thankfully he was helped out with the pronunciation on that one bill difficult for a non non native English speaker and and US as well and se mentioned this Wabi tedious is supposedly inexplicably being matched up with CDL gone. So I don't know what that's about Dana White. Nothing, nothing else in that for instance but at least in the works, I guess that's that's not so Yeah over EGO. So over in for you I'm fine with that too Rosen's strike for me. Either way works Coyne I'm cool it either that either but just the position because I mean, that's what it is heavyweight division right now. So go from heavyweight. Back to one Hundred Eighty Five Pound Division Aka with one Mr. Philip. Hawes who disposed of Poor Jacob Mao Kun and just eighteen seconds one of the original super prospects of our great sport. He suffered some hard losses early in his career. He picked himself back up, dusted himself off his dues internationally, and now he's in the UFC, getting highlight reel finishes my friend where does fill ha's go from Saturday nine first of all. U. N Casey you mischievous little rugrats guys got me in trouble because you made me talk about Phil in the show after and kind of explain some of the trepidation ahead overfill hosby on the main card and I got a message from someone purporting to be Phil Hamas brother. Lamar Hamas this this on twitter. So by fake. And he was not happy I believe maybe I assume he wants the post show he was not happy with me so so I said by the end of the day that Haase's like super impressive and I was yes, you did. So I get it I think there was some there are some joking like, Oh, why did it take so long to get to the and I look sometimes we joke too much. So Lamar, if you're listening to this show, I apologize for for any insult that I that I put forward because I I was alive but This guy's listening because I don't want him. We were joking after it was such an impressive performance. He has faced a high level experience already more. So than most guys who have just made their used to debut so I understand that the push, but I was just kind of picking guys with think around his range I an under. NASREDINE IM- above okay. I know whatever it's not a sexy matchup. He's another good prospect. In, my rankings around the same range I have other I feel like Wellington Tournament who was supposed to fight this week but got Kobe and Bartoszk been ski if you want a guy with a little more UFC experience so I know these are these days right now are just a fly buzzing people's ears but I'm not. Against the name veteran it's point I. I'm not doing. Well at least we disagree on on Something Aka because I think he has put himself in a position where he has no limitations like. I feel like. You can't really slow roll him anymore because you're slow rolled him as much as you could for his first, you have see fight he demolished his opponent there's no need to slow roll him any longer I'm not saying we throw them atop fifteen or anything like that. But he? I think he does need a vet test against someone who would be hungry to take out a prospect that people are excited about and because this man did so well, building up his last fight against the big prospect I say we give them another opportunity to get that taste out of his mouth. So my pick is one Phil Hawes against Gerald near Chartres megatrend tron versus GM three. I liked that idea it's a good step up. If he beach diene three, there you go. Then we can start sniffing out top fifteen opponents or at getting much closer but I think that's a I've put Mir share what? Thirty thirty five in that division. Ha's can't be that far off. Can't he? He? Certainly, he certainly can be so in my rankings. Approximately about seventy middleweights give or take. I have already gave him. I already debuted Ha's I. put him at forty nine. Forty nine it's so low for eighteen six. That's really that's really high for guys. That's that's that's twenty one spots higher than than a bunch of people who've already five multiple times. and I have Gerald Maybe A to hide and twenty six. So top thirty. I get it. I get it like I was GonNa say, Oh, we can't match them up with a guy like Gerald Joe has much more experience. Joel has more experience than like everybody. So whole world. was really really what you're gonNA match. What with someone? I don't hate I don't hate it again I'm I'm just a little more reluctant to move bill. Anymore, because you're getting Lamar with Lamar, Hawes so I'm thinking with my story I want him around guys with similar U. OF C.. Experienced but I get. If you'RE GONNA go up, you could certainly have worst matchups, Gerald. Yes. But what I what I think is going to happen is that one of these upcoming eighty five matchups of the next three or four weeks someone's GonNa fall out and fill GONNA get inserted in yeah. This is one of those guys like we we've been saying recently probably not not someone we can really Beasley match make four. He's GonNa he's going to get some sort of short notice fight that we can't even predict so put them on that list that's the most accurate petition could make. Yes. This is advertiser. We now have two point three million people incarcerated in America less than seven percent of them are incarcerated for violent crime. That's attorney Geoffrey, Robinson Director of the ACLU Tron Center for Justice and Equality. 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This includes the tipping point we're at today I think Americans are watching and thinking and looking at this issue in ways they never have before and that's why I say this is our last best chance because if we don't get it right this time we're America is headed is someplace I don't think anybody wants to go. How do we make our last best chance count listen to who we are a podcast by Ben and Jerry's and produced by box creative now streaming wherever you that your podcasts And now we get to one of the questions that I've been getting the most AK emails. tweets. Poe Questions. What is next for lowering Murphy after her submission win over Lilia. SHOCKER OBA and. I've thought about this quite a bit over the last twenty, four hours or so I whacked poetically about it on the post fight show. And last week on this very program I. said that just drudge should either get a title shot fight. Lauren. Murphy or fights the Cavallo Shevchenko is getting ready to Fi- Jennifer my on November twenty first. Learn Murphy as Allaire said, what screw it, take my out and put and drudge in, and then Lauren Murphy would get the winner of that fight. That's what she wanted so. A little too late for that unless something. Bad Happens Jennifer my inch get make it and I hate to say this. Because I like Cynthia Calvillo and it sucks that she tested positive for Covid nineteen unfortunately for her the fact that Lauren State on the card took the risk she deserves to have the lead between the two in my opinion. So my pick we do Murphy versus Androgen clear-cut Number One contender fight keeps both women busy between Chanko tile defense and whenever she's ready to come back and defend again because let's remember founding shift Janko heavily favored to retain her title Jessica more than. Twice in a year since signing with the UFC the last time she fought three times in one year was in two, thousand, fifteen, and two of those fights were outside of the UFC. We'll say this recency aside she did fight three times from June of last year to February of this year. Okay. So maybe she'll be more active. Now, I just don't want to necessarily bank on that. So put Murphy and and drudge December twelfth December nineteenth winner gets the next title shot. And Caviar is going to have to fight Kagan or somebody like that. That's that's where we're at at this point. I don't know what do you think? This was this. This is the one that I just could not find an easy answer I feel like there's no homerun answer in a perfect world. You Know Laura Murphy could wait and get that title shot no matter what whether it's whoever gets it ahead of her but again, then we're talking about waiting six months seven months eight really have no idea and I don't think she wants to wait. On the sidelines that long she wants to fight and she wants to fight for the world title now how crazy is it by the way that you know we always get on the for not booking fights enough ahead of time and not giving bites you know proper time to get get get hyped up and marketed and they they they booked US my show checkoff by well ahead of time. It's not even into until next month. I think end of third week November some of that. And it's not until. And yet during all this time now, if feels like entourage and Murphy have. Hurdles my as far as fan. Interest goes. There wasn't a lot of heat to the. Match up to begin with I mean there was there was a nod of like Oh. Yeah. She she's a deserving challenger. And then at the time, we couldn't think of anyone that should be hierarchy. Okay. Then on tries comes up huge win Murphy keeps keeps her winning forms going looks amazing against a newcomer, but took care of business she's supposed to and suddenly I think a lot of I kept forgetting that might was even getting the title shot and time rolls around Next month you'RE GONNA have to go like, why isn't? non-drowsy talent wise Laura Murphy getting the title shot. You know I think you're GONNA have a lot of those questions for getting to this flight was booked like two months ago as vice should be. So kind of a no win situation for the. Aussie there I I feel bad for the matchmakers net case but Gosh I. Jessica entourage. Last week, I said I want us to see her fight Ostra Chango So I can't go against that. I did not think it was fair to Murphy if you've got a win against Chuck Arava to have to fight entourage and I wanted to wit so. But then again, there's just all these concerts contradicting things going on. Since I think this into Calcio re-bookings the way to go. But then there's almost a question of like what was the point of of having the fighting shack aerobic. Then if she's just GonNa go through anyway but. I think Josh get the title shot against the Maya Shevchenko winner and then I still I if Murphy wants to busy and I think it's fair to does I think she's GonNa WanNa fight. I think go murphy. This is how I think tone of voice how strongly I feel about this. Lauren Murphy should be getting a title shot. Should be getting a guaranteed title shot she is but she will not and I think she wants to fight again and I think it will just be. Book. And here's both lady said after their wins and dry GIN. Murphy, I don't WanNa. Wait like I. Don't WanNa wait I'M GONNA fight. So now let's just fight him like just fight each other and call it a day because you'd like you said like if Murphy just waits, she might be winning a year and a fight again and she shared his housing how to do that. So but good online murphy and I said I think we were all in agreement during the postal H. Show a+, plus she was She besides Habib I think she is the highest grade of anybody plus the way she delivered from start to finish because she did everything she could with what she had, and then some she literally could not do anymore besides Valentine's house and slapping her in the face like that's literally all she could do and she did it so good on her. Robert Whitaker would be my second star of the night if only I love care free. A wheel whitaker he's just he's just non stop laughing now. He does interviews now like he he's he's laughed at the questions. He just he gets very Kurt polite answers he's he's fully embraced the absurdity of MMA and he seems in a much better place than he was when he was you know the stress of being champion and all the you know and have a deal with the media that whatever he's doing to take care of his mental health and. Keep. Doing it Robert 'cause. He seems to be loving life right now and making very good decisions despite like this cluster. Is kind of confusing and we don't know what that was gonNA happen the most interesting the women's flyweight division has ever been like it's not like the divisions been around for twenty years but since its inception it's been kind of looked at it is just like. Now, get thirty five acres you know going down, we get fifteen or going up. It's just like this colossal mix of misfits in a way and the division just hasn't gone that interesting because Valentin is no one's GonNa be Valentina but man just getting the roads Valentin this is the best in most interesting the women's twenty-five Division has ever been right I think I think at the end of the year Mike when we look back on some of the Best Stories of twenty twenty I think the rise of sort of the flyweight of the women's flyweight division is going to be up there with sort of the realization of the depth of the men's Bantamweight Division we spent some some are calling. Now the cheapest division, an olive says if you add in bell tour so so Kudos to the matchmakers, and of course, the athletes in the flyweight division for really really making it a division watch. Absolutely what A. What change for Lauren Murphy over the years this is just a she's been a great story herself to see where she's where she's gone and Kinda gone from, and she's admitted herself kind of a laughingstock to a contender in a matter of like eighteen months to two years. So good on her she's definitely a factor at one, twenty, five but. I'm interested to hear what your thought processes that Ak with the first fight of the main card the ending of the rivalry between Maga, my ankle AF in Eon coots Alaba Ankle. I F Knox Kusaba stiff in the final minute of the first round exclamation point city. He can move on as a top fifteen guy in fight ranked guys Aka like he should have been doing in the first place but ankle, I have looked phenomenal on Saturday. He deserves the reward going through this whole ordeal booking cancellation booking cancellation covid. It was crazy. Where does he go from that? Went on Saturday. He can move on from you want you to lava. We all can move on from ankle. Lava has. Really, only eight months ago when I bought, but that's saga did really seem to go on forever. It was poked multiple times. Where does he go? Man I mean look he's been people have been calling him sleeper in the two of five division for Awhile and with the way the divergence shaped up now I mean that's sleeper he woke up in a big way last night for anyone who wasn't aware how how how towns guy is or why he's been in the top fifty in the ranks for the last couple of years I like to really good matches are like the one I'll I'll say the one I favor the most I think Misha's Surkov I think is a good way. Maybe I have Michigan ranks too high still he's obviously hasn't bought less of timber so I don't know how much he's dropped in the rankings of some people's eyes or even the US's rankings I should check that but I think it's good style match up again. Two guys who I think are right on the door, the top ten, and whoever wins that probably top ten spot light heavyweight So yeah, I mean we haven't seen some last. September. So hopefully he's healthy and you know it's just sort of travel and travel issues know how difficult is to train and prepare for things during the pandemic era we're living in and otherwise the hope hundred hundred healthy and we can see that metro made. So right now, ankle has ranked number eleven circuit off remember ten. Oh, there we go. Yeah. I actually abrupt. I like that idea. But I'm ready to get all sorts of weird AK. This is always are it's been a it's been a crazy year for for Miss Drank alive and I think we should just get a little crazier after this year so. You said circuit off which I liked the number ten guy, and we have two guys in this division who are looking to break the wall down. So I say we just matched them up. Let's go a spot above that. So gimme ankle is versus Johnnie Walker I. Wanted I need it he's walkers ranked number nine. I already said last week I wanna see Jimmy crew versus volcanoes demere I would have given him Ozdemir had I not said that last week with Jimmy crude on last week's program ankle. Versus Walker is just bananas, Weird Wild and fun I'm in Ak that's what I wanNA. See. I like walk crew. So I cannot recommit Walker the other the other name I really love Nikita Krylov which one I think I saw people mentioning. So. Ankle of is again there's that that like there's like five or six guys right outside the top ten and I think slot right into fights with each other perfectly. A lot of people is on twitter wanted to see ankle I vs per hash got no way. No, we're not doing that now I wanna see it. I don't want to see it now though. Superhero books we gotta get this guy booked. Yeah I mean that's exciting. Yes. I thought we're going to see perhaps CA Krylov already or BRASSICA versus rackets. May I don't understand I don't get it but. That's fun I. Mean Anything I just want to see ankle. I fight. A top ten guy he's he's that good I just WanNa see how good he really is as we move onto the wild card round, reach us a fighter that we have not match made for yet, and we go ahead and do it right now I, love the wild card round favorite part of the show outside of the listener's submissions. Ak Start us off by man what is your UFC two, fifty, four post boredom wildcard selection while I my usual. Rundown for guys who I think neither of us are going to pick Joel Alvarez. Great. Win Wait. That's what's next for you. Buddy Miranda Maverick keep working in that PhD young brilliant talent tied to have stopped doing Schumer. That's general life advice He doesn't really need for me. got a good win over. Stefan struve got back in the wind com just stop doing these are discussing just it's not it's not. It's not cute. It's cute. So I went with but I went with the one I got I got to match up with was Shafqat. Rahkmonov. Who I boldly stated on twitter I is as exciting prospect as comes up, Shemaya? Okay. If we're talking about guys at one seventy, this guy's legit. Becomes that is, but I think what? What, what, Rahkmonov against Algebra is as impressive as Gerald. Moore shirt win certainly more impressive than John Phillips or the other reason. McEwen. So if feel realize he's he's more experienced than average for UC debutante though he is just want to know now and he's only twenty five years old so throughout their. He was originally supposed to fight another veteran Elizabeth instead. So that makes a lot of sense. But LESCHI he was removed from that fight because of an L. C. L. Tear so. You know the time he's not getting surgery as far as I know but the timeframe, there's a little shaky. I don't know. We don't know how he back don't know how when they were going to book. Rahkmonov. Again Muneer Les- who was supposed to fight again on October seventeenth he got covid maybe if that clears up, we can match up. Diego Lima. Was the name I really WanNa see him fight but he's he's again neck injury you can't play around with those I I assume he'll be recovered soon but we again, we haven't been given a timetable on that so. Going with such a little more UC experience in Iraq manab and also very solid record before joining the promotion. Takashi Saito. he's a little bit of a question mark as well. He supposed to find Dale Rigas August twenty second he was ruled medically unfit to compete after weighing in which we don't happen I. Assume it was tied to the way cut and hopefully nothing more serious. But yeah, that's the name of throwing out there. 'CAUSE just want to book Rachman up again I think it's a big big prospect. We'll have some reader submissions later, which are probably more interesting than what is suggested by Takashi. Shot. Rahkmonov is a fight that I. Well this happens from time to time I. also chose Shafqat Rahkmonov because one I mean in my opinion forgoing like five stars of the night he's in the top five. In my opinion I mean the man just took out Cowboy Olivera who missed weight in his UFC you'll see debut in the first round like. Good Yeah what he be chunky cowboy like that was super impressive and you deserve some really good after that. I'm not ready to give them a tough guy he called Donald. Ceremony. I'm not all that thrilled with that idea, but if they do it. I'm okay with it. I have two names Rachmanov I think he's I think he's right there man. Two guys were I look at them and I say you know what you're doing. Well, you ben damn impressive. Let's see how good you really are. Let's see if you are top fifty material. So to Rachmat versus Daniel Rodriguez or my first choices Rachmat Aversa Jake Matthews gas step up with a win. Knock on the door of top fifteen spot. That's either of guys works for me but. That's the kind of step up on see like. Yeah Twenty five to twenty range and I think both those guys are probably in that neck of the woods right now. There's some really good looking kind of wealthy. You mentioned Dale Rodriguez. Rahkmonov Sean Brady of course, absolute blue chipper. That's sort of middle of the pack right now of younger Tariq guys. That's exciting guys. All guys. You can see like in the top fifteen in like a year eighteen months from now like Dan. This is nice. It's. A nice againing brady versus Blah. Muhammad's a great very excited for that Do we have any listener matchmaking initial the whole lot hold on What happened to Casey Kenny what your boy Casey, Kenny I told I said this like. Casey Kenny mean there's this one option for right now like if he wants to fight somebody. Relatively name-wise in the fifteen before the year is over he's GonNa have to fight. Moravian short notice and I don't know how excited would be to do that. I. I went in heading I went heading into U of C two, fifty four with the wildcard pick ready to go Casey Kenny vs Rob Fund that was going to be my pick Barat. Fun had gone ahead and book a fight with I duNno Marlin Mariah's for comeback I. Guess That's Okay I mean, we're Casey Kenny would have been cool too but now but. Soon as I. Heard that I was like, well, there goes my wild carp? Back. And then we're like. Miranda Maverick. I was thinking about, but I was just like she should fight like. Justin kiss or somebody like that like what a rusher you know what I mean it's just all the winners like you don't. WanNa rush or they missed wade or like it's I feel like rock bottom deserves the shine. Yeah definitely I again, this guy. Do I wish they'd been able to have them up a little bit more but I think after this win I don't know if he's going to get that should have pushed. The one thing I'll say about I've always kind of kind of kind of talking about how we're pushing fast part of that. Is he he he? He does make very good use of his English you know what I mean obviously has limited English but he's he's he's picked up the hub smash thing which is which people like people in North America like and just as has just up. English, and as very very good with his words when it comes to kind of generating headlines and and calling people out so that that is something that you might have has over a lot of other prospects. So I'll I'll definitely give him that addition to him being a pretty pretty down. Amazing fighter What do you want first by? Do you want? DMZ you want email got. Cindy, the M.'s I that will do the. emails. So. DM's I. Got One from Iran Ski. That's at a Ron. A Ski S Key s ending S K I. Three is anyone you guys can try and find this Guy he? He had some good Rachmat. Good. You know he mentioned Rahkmonov rockall Martin was an aide moved out there and I didn't want to steal it because like, yeah I could see that I can see Rocco Martin and Jesse Ron. said I like except I believe Jesse and probably has is returned to one fifty, five I. Don't know if he wants to be fighting top welterweight prospects like Shafqat. Rahkmonov. Funding to do He Casey Kenny is Song Dong Or. Is this might be too much. I believe hop on Sal I actually liked have I actually I think that's I think that's good. Fight I. Mean You'd love it. Kenny. Would sign on for that in a frigging second. he likes he likes live Krylov This I thought you mentioned this show say. That Cummings I think this one, the names. Out there and makes sense again, we're talking about veteran guys and that sort of Mir short range to Voss Phillip Lynes. Lynn's I don't know if he was going to be the anymore or Romanov Romanov next plate So I think you from people said he said love the show and thanks for considering his picks and then Harry Lipsky. Who's messed me in the past and I keep telling this guy at Harry Five on twitter you get your fix in Saturday night and we'll we'll drag it on the show. So he got it in but he got an time he let's get you McGregor for the belts. Of course, as the does she would as well and he apologized policies. The winter, the winter is he rematch Kinda near costs. Volkov overreach over meals, jd S. but again, there's the gone thing what Harris? Augusta Sukhothai is that the guy we think that we can finally get that feel good moment walter. Easy, it's not really an easy out. So tough I. Yeah. There's a huge. Gap which again, which I mean even even against Boko because I here's kind of had that advantage so. against it but like we said, we want to bring in a real job for forever. And their Tony Ferguson and or on. I'm seeing if few I saw a lot of Murphy address. It does I don't know that's so unfair to Murphy I feel. and then random twelve. This is where we get wild I ran into the wild west of random twitter onto the next one solicitations. them all but for Shafqat, we got our first fighter volunteering for an onto the next one. Yes. PF L. and UFC veteran glycogen Franca chimed in when we asked who should shafqat right next next he said meet Nice. Like oh Franken back a fine fine welterweight town to fight Rachmat? He's volunteered as the Larry guy he's got a little bit of. People say that Mukisa come on Tyron Woodley. and. At Adam knows better on twitter with the lovely seeing punk so they. Very good. Very yes. That's what people want. what? I don't want to run through everything. We have here we are talked about Kenny and have Murphy again I, you know there was just no, I think nobody no good solution. As people have, smarter, solutions than us. Appear throwing out straight names. Now, this the the the you know guys you haven't been helpful. Shimla half German yeah for my of isn't there. Feel hot. have for that someone else said AARC Anders. Kevin, Harlan's no once. They both have fights booked. Okay Edmonds Chubais. Ian. I'm not let's not terrible. That's not on the I think that push advising should continue I want him not mess up with another prospect and? Christoph Shock Jacko's gotta get. Well I think he is booked. Thought he was booked in like something happened right? Right. That actually sounds more familiar Robert Whitaker we had some comments. mostly just people saying he's GonNa lose to the again and I we're look maybe he would. But that's no reason not to make their rematch guys come on. and Rent Maverick. Last one I'll read the random solicitations Miranda Maverick. from Giovane Johnson he says either Maria ACAPA. Or Alexa Grasso I could see POGBA dumb extends grasso at I don't WanNa. See that I do not want to see that I honestly, and this is no disrespect to Moraga Police I. Think Miranda Maverick would. Just a nine later. Just mercury how it's just not it's. Fair. Married Mavericks on through the Miranda Maverick topgun jet yes. The train it's A. To Chat Yeah and from regular regular review listener and contributor at Mighty Magic Mart on twitter he likes uncle I vs Ozdemir. Wants to move up in the top ten and what else and then Casey Kenny versus other song which was Mr for or the winner of Kelleher. Ricky Simone. Maybe, if Simone Wins. I, don't know. I don't know I. Don't think I. Don't think Kelleher when going to thirty-five like anytime soon. Alright right he's enjoy. He's enjoying the bantamweight fights at at at one hundred, forty five that he's been says is. Not, GONNA. Wait not underway about that. Now he's he's been very smart about it. I. Hate. Maybe Candy Kenny would go up to one forty five to do the one, forty, five, bantamweight dance I don't know maybe. The. Lego. We had quite a slew I could have read a lot more but. There's only so many hours in the day and get everyone who Commented on twitter sent in replies with especially thinking for people who deemed an email email. Interesting. Gordon. Our usual, another one of our viewers. Will appreciate that. Yeah. KRISTOF Jaakko supposed to fight this coming Saturday. Against mock mud Muradov so bad I'm. Just saying. Is like one or till and Hermansson fighting your next week. What Does, not, radically. December? Think I really have no idea what's going on I? Think it's a hall Anderson Silva. Right that's next week. That's actually. I'm back is. There you gotTA. Listen guys listen to this right now and you're like, Oh, I wanna get my suggestion get him in there. We'll talk about it on on the twitter right AK. Is that Alexander Keighley I'm it Mike Heck underscore GR join us next week as you discussed, the follow and futures for some of the notable names of. UFC Vegas twelve going here. You've seen fight night Silva vs hall or hall verse. Listen at the end of the day. This is. What's supposed to be the vital fight of the legendary career of Anderson Silva. So back to back events with legend retirements, he takes on your riot hall really good feather way Bob between feely Bryce Mitchell is the co main event, Greg Hardy, versus Maurice Greene is on that card by the way just because we mentioned while Harris I think the winner of that fight should fight Walt Harris next that's my pick. As far as this week show goes. Out of time for Alex Haley Mike Hacking his always folks do not take this too seriously I've Ma is supposed to be funded is our job to make it that way. So we'll see you next time right here on onto the next one, the podcast. You're listening to the box media podcast. Network.

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What the Heck: Episode 12 | Petr Yan, Cynthia Calvillo, Frankie Edgar, Calvin Kattar & More

"You're listening. On network. What! Might have on enemy finding dot com now. Here's your host Mike. Well everybody welcome to all new episode of what the Heck on enemy fighting DOT com. My name is Mike. CAC always appreciate everybody watching and listening to the show each and every week every Thursday ten am right here on May. Find Ten am eastern time for those of you. Working from home should be have a bit of a commute. Need something to watch or listen to for awhile. Boy Do. We got you covered this week. A record seven guests on tap for what the heck this week and I said this on twitter the other day we've had some big names. Some big guests on this program over the first eleven episodes, but I have to say that. Pound for pound start to finish top to bottom, this might be the most loaded lineup we have ever had on the program and we got lots to discuss. That is for sure. I off you've on ESPN TED is in the books. The card was not looked at in a super positive light, and if you skipped it. All right if you didn't you gotTa Fund One I. Three Fights all ended inside of a minute tying UFC record for the most sub minute finishes on a card and promotional history had some great performances. We had a great fight between Andre feely and Charles Jordan and at the end of the night a new face emerged in the women's hundred twenty five pound type. With Cynthia Cavallo defeating Jessica now. The UFC is back with another fun. One in Las Vegas this weekend headlined by heavyweight matchup between Curtis. Blades and Alexander Volkov got a great Komen events between Josh. And Shane Burgos Liming. Good versus below Muhammed Jim Miller versus Roosevelt Roberts return to Brianna emburey and a lot of people are very excited about her career her future in the sport. She's GonNa Fight. Teasha Torres Got Roxanne Mata, fairy versus Laura Murphy. That's a big fight. It's a pretty damn good card than I. AM looking forward to very much, plus which makes just as happy. If not happier. We had an earlier start time this week. Five PM. Eastern time the prelims kickoff on ESPN and ESPN, plus and then eight eastern for the main card. This makes me very very happy. Especially the night before father's Day and there's just. Too much to get to I always feel like I'm rambling, so I'm going to stop sign here from the fighters themselves. Let's rundown this crazy lineup for this week's episode of what the heck surrounding us out this week we have the return to the program of Cavin Kate, or we earlier this week. He's going to take on Dan in the main event of the UFC's July fifteenth event on fight island or has island, which you have been to a couple of times already, but we'll get the Boston finishers thoughts on that fight at the end of the show. Like shelby on July Fifteenth Frankie. Edgar is back on the show. He is still fighting pager. Moon Yose. It's just not happening at UFC two fifty, one on July eleventh anymore they moved that fight four days down the road to the Komen event of July fifteenth scarred on Yeahs Island, excited to catch up with the answer later on in the show, speaking at a Kobetski golf returns to the show to preview, his Co. made of fight with Mike Perry. Next weekend June twenty-seventh in Las Vegas the fight. He's won it for a while now, and he'll be on talk about that fight and much more. This week another fun fight coming up this weekend at one hundred and fifty five pounds Lewis. Pay Neha is fighting comma worthy, and it's been around a year, or so since we saw Comma Worthy Finish devante Smith this past August. It was one of if not the biggest upset of the year last year. Get the death star versus violent Bob Ross that is a great piece of business right there. We're going to hear from both of those guys on the show act toback comma worthy I who had some amazing insight, not just on the fight, but everything going on in the country right now and then we'll check in with Louis Patio. We mentioned her earlier Cynthia. Calvillo joins US once again recap her big win over Jessica I over the weekend? I thought she performed. Great during the fight, and after during the post fight press conference, she's now ranked number. Two in the division will chat with her. See what maybe next, but kicking us off. Let's talk UFC. Two fifty, one coming up on July eleven th. We have three title fights one of. Is for the vacant UFC bantamweight title. Pietro Yon taking on the former featherweight champion Josie, although it seems like Pyongyang was always Dana White's first choice for that shot once Henry Pseudo retired after defeating dominant cruiser, UFC, two, forty, nine and vacated the belt, and with that, let's check in with Mr No mercy, himself are I. Guess Week. What the Heck Mr Pietro. Yon. The Bantamweight Division, the AFC is on fire right now coming out of UFC to fifty, and it'll be a big night for the division on July eleventh at UFC two fifty one. It was officially announced last week. That Josie Yaldo will take on my guest at this time. Poto Yon for the vacant title to Chris and Fight Island P-. Yoder is being joined by Siad Barack Obama Damalf to help translate this conversation which I appreciate very much, say I. Thank you for doing this and Pulitzer. How are you sir? Law I am good. Thank you. Are you I'm great This fight is official. We'd been hearing that. This is the plan for a few weeks at this point. How does it feel now that you've actually signed the contract that you're going to be fighting for a world title and less than a month? Yeah, I have two good. Yeah we signed a contract that fight. And I prepare. I wait I won't fight though. One title. That's why you're in the sport. Right A to be a champion, right? Yeah, yes, I will be staying jam. It's it's my goal. And you have that chance and less than a month's time, and this all really came together. Because Henry, pseudo finishes dominant crews. You have see to forty nine and then retired from the sport, and that one surprised me a little bit because I didn't see that one coming. How did you react to Henry Pseudo? After, he beat Dominic Cruz. I think. Yeah I saw I saw maybe. maybe a crews. No Rian tourists around SEC announced. The I saw key waited that he cannot good prepare. To who the Sequoia Rian is a Norman not program now puron. Fight. Hit No different sites into. as So I did. Not Show career radio. Got It. Cat Today get more. John you might. Get a better suggestion. keep it again. GMT on neither also normal median. It will first Scotia. Mike Lucas. Division right now. It's full awfully dangerous fighters and contenders and Sahara he just. Ran Away and. It's going to be tougher him this. Why he he, he retired. Do you believe him. Do you believe that he's retired? 'cause now he's saying he would come back for a fight with outspoken off ski for the featherweight title. Do you think we'll see him fight again? Bunion. Might you put your monetary cost on March though that? The Houston Moore's. Boy. Buddies. Or obviously he's trying to go all in Kansas. He may be loose can loses five, but if he wins, he's going to be. Champion of the three region, and that's why he is campaigning for. Most. Speaking of I mean talking about this division right now. It is better than ever and you sort of talked about that earlier with so many good guys when Josie. All those name was mentioned in this fight. It wasn't met with a lot of positivity you being. There was met with tons of positivity. Everybody thought you should be there, but he's coming off the loss. Tomorrow Mariah doesn't even have a win in the division yet and I'm sure you're thrilled to be in the spot regardless of who you're fighting. But how did you react to finding out that that you'd be fighting? Josie Aldo for the title. With cigarettes used somewhat similar STO although at I. Got Us by. Would you Jim Aldo Gaza. Many people will agree with music. Is More. Dangerous is sterling. I think he want his fight with. Yes first round was closed, but I think closet through the fight. You know more is just. Away and all doors pushing the action. In my opinion. Aldo. Is More dangerous. Than Sterling. Why why do they go? Though is is more dangerous than Al Jemaine right like right now. or They I. I'll up by Seattle ingredients just. No, although bureau Hong Garage Narrows, Naberezhny still think although is more versatile, won't concentrate sterling. He's. So for sure, but there is a way of. Strikes. You know it's not very. Not Very concentrated like where he's always shoot from a from far away. You know you kind of always can see this coming in. Punish me, I think. He's doing. I believe I'll do is more dangerous. Like in striking and also on the ground to. My colleague Ghirmay cruise spoke with Eduardo Dante's last week because four years ago, you flew to Brazil and you were training with Josie Aldo, at Nova Uniao four years a long time in the sport and things can change very quickly. But what do you remember about that trip and training with Josie four years ago? The bill, but she badly at Naza despoiling Golden EIB does game mandate Mir Aldo need down Scotland biting. Go, also you believe yeah. Yeah, Utah more than four years ago and you know even at that time like Aldo. Dont`a since. They were at the prime of their career and I was just in the beginning of my career was beginning of my way and my journey, and even Ed's at the time I was never beaten by. It's always competitive who? So right now I understand I believe I'm already on another level, and it's my time. My time has come Eduardo SORTA disagrees with that says that it didn't go very well when you and Josie together, but that's beside the point, but he says that he believes that Josie. All those technique is going to be the difference in the fight and predicts that Josie is GonNa. Knock you out in the second round or if that doesn't happen, you're going to get beat up for the entire fight. It's not gonNA. Be Good night for you. How do you respond to that? Stolen? Mania. Kiddo often around the militia. Is middle communism name is I understand that. Data's is his training partner and he WANNA support him and I respect. alda Atlit. But tonight to for him to knock him out me in the second round your. Tie My hands behind my back. And doing now I believe that it's my time I have. Complete confidence in myself that I'm GONNA win despite. One thing that is always discussed when it comes to Josie Aldo is the weight and hitting the scale because he's had trouble in the past making one forty five, and he made the limit for the fight with Mariah's, but now he's GonNa make championship waiting at one thirty five on the nose and I know, we have to think positively here Pio Dir, but is that something you're worried about it all. Are you worried about him again in the battle with the scale on July eleventh. And you realize that the stolen professor now on the neither does on the album. Go into a stall at the my over at and you do merge. Yamaguchi by designing your way I'm GonNa work that Selenium Solutia without. At the? Miami Gra Gosden were in stem, still wins. Stop Race in the Valley Contra leader. Page by the attachable control page. After I go. I don't believe he's going to miss wait. I think he's a professional think. He's GonNa. Make it but. You have to understand like This is GONNA be. My game is going to be my rule. I'm going to control the tempo of this fight I'm going to control the central if he's going to control the center. Because only I'm GONNA. Let Him. I will dictate how this fight will go and. And excited I'm excited about this. What did you make of the fight island announcement with it being on Yeahs Island? Did you buy into all the beaches and the palm trees? That sort of fantasy everyone was picturing in their minds when Dana White made this announcement that that he was gonNA. Take fights to to fight island. Of course when I didn't know whereas is gonNA. Take place I hit some guesses. I'll wasn't sure he's GonNa take place. South, but that'd be hours. I was pretty pretty heavy. Glad we know like in. Abu Dhabi everything is going to be a high level. You're going to organize everything well, and he's going to be great and I'm just. Honored and excited to be kind of part of the history event like during the pandemic in Yes island like I venit sulfite island. I'm just I'm just excited. Yes, and it is gonNA be historic Nyanza. It could be a historic night for you as well. Your first shot at a UFC title I know you're not much of a prediction guy. But how do you see this fight? I'll going down on July eleventh. I hope I'm going to win every time I, have only one goal is to win I always believe in myself. I never thought myself and. Help it's going to be my evening and I'm GonNa. And I'm glad I'm going to be part of the such great cartons, such event and Thank you thank you I support. It seems like the winner of this fight, and we're not looking. Past July eleventh will already have their next opponent lined up in algebra sterling. He finished Corey San Hagan very quickly. You have C two fifty I thought it was a very cool move you to congratulate Al on social media after the wind. But where did you make of his performance a couple of weeks back? Diadema. Long. I congratulated him. He did a good job. He Hugh Hugh went full force Chokhin Zip beginning. Wins sent. Both of them were dry maybe. It didn't happen in the beginning of this five. Maybe why five good went differently. But he did Glenn, and of course. If you see decided, he's next contender. It's them, you know. I'm not choosing my opponents. What did you make of cody? GARBRANDT performance f? C, two fifty. I know you guys had that moment backstage after you beat your I favor, but had a brutal NOCCO win over half yellow son saw. What did you think of Cody's return to Action and bouncing back after getting finished in three consecutive fights? Would on judges a winners. By can great his knockout. It's going to be. Because you know Kinda went all in whisking sponge with power, and it's kind of. worked. For me I wasn't that impressed with his overall performance. A tough grader, and then a couple more things really go one other fighter that made a big splash that night was sean. o'malley knocked out any wine in the first round I. Know You guys sort of had a bit of back and on twitter over the last couple of days, but Is a guy who's gaining steam these days? Have you been impressed with what John o'malley has done? That can usually up Israel. Billionaire Prince Peterbilt Crochet. that. But Gaza way the NOCCO Castillo Nasty resume Yeah he also did Grady Olds Bantamweight Division. Amazing. Last prevent and Win! I think right now for humans already to ranked contenders, just fighting some some random guys who's not drink and just to prove himself. More. Guys and You know I understand now I'm fighting for the title and those guys. They're going to mention my name just to get in. Working to promote me I think. In that way, it's a good way to look at it. But before he can discuss future fights and fantasy matchmaking Pulitzer. You have to take care of business against Josie Aldo, and I'm a big believer that anybody could be watching at any time. That's what happens in this business before we let you go. What's the message for Josie Aldo? Head of this title? Fight at you have C two fifty one. Years it'll. Be Around by the Boyle. Deal at UPS. Big Ethel upstairs Luger. STALL Doboj the equipped toward now. But in. To reinstate like that I suggest episode last livable you the wizard. I wish to stay injury-free I. Wish to make weight, and I wish him to be prepared. You know he's GonNa. See The difference. That what happened with me in this for years? Evens Ed's at times, they already felt the. The competitiveness. And now's going to. Thank, you so much for joining us really looking forward to this fight on July eleventh on fight islands. I truly appreciate all of your work helping to set this up translating the whole nine. All the best of both of you guys I appreciate the time. Great Stuff right there from Pietro Yon Great to get some some English from him for a bit to. It's coming along very nicely in a big. Thank you to SAS for translating the conversation. A new champion one hundred thirty five pounds, so hopefully be crowned on July eleventh at UFC two fifty one. Let's head to our next guest. She picked up a huge win at the apex in Las Vegas in the main event. UFC on. ESPN ten this past weekend over Jessica I. Let's welcome back to the show Cynthia Salvio. Hack with a huge victory intact. We Have Cynthia cal who defeated Jessica. And animus vision and the main event of UFC, on ESPN ten this past weekend. And now she's the number. Two ranked twenty fiber in the World Cynthia. Thank you for doing this hour, you. I'm doing great. It's it's been crazy these last couple of weeks and to be able to get that finish this past Saturday I mean. It's it's crazy i. mean it just kind of like a little bit of a very tall for me right now? I mean I know it was just like you know a really good. I fight and I saw a lot to prove but Shows Pretty Great. Are you feeling physically after twenty five minutes fighting? I actually feel pretty good as far as my body goes. I feel great I had some. You know some nagging injuries and stuff like that, but. Other than that. I feel great I would say my face. luxeuil looked a lot worse than what my body feels like which is. Pretty good for having to have a five round fight. Did feel like you're in a main event. Considering everything going on the world, it wasn't sort of a typical week. I mean yeah, the virtual media and stuff, but it felt like some of the obligations were atypical of what a normal main event in normal we could be like. Did it feel like any different feel like you in a main event? I mean it did as far as like. You know all the interviews I had to do on stuff like I think there was one day. Adrian Fight Week where I was like in my hotel room, doing interviews from Lake I. Know Nine thirty in the morning till three thirty pm like nonstop so. It was because of you know especially during this time You know, it's just you. You don't have any of you know. People are doing more zoom calls, and you know audio stuff, so it's like different I was definitely different in other than that. No I mean. I try not to put too much pressure on that part of like I'm the main event. I have to do this. Because I'm the main event and I'm performing because I want to be the best fighter in the world it's it's not you know because of the position matter. I was the first fight of the night or the main event. You know I was going to show up. There was. Quite a bit of drama throughout the week, and not just in your fight, but a lot of different fights in that car we had short notice replacements coming in the eleventh hour, we had fighters flying off the card the day before, and then, of course sure you knew this is coming. Just Guy Mrs Weight by point, two five pounds, and you had quite a bit to say when it came to that and get into that I'm sure, but you know this has happened a few times during this. This pandemic at every time it's happened at least like all the fighters on the opposing end who made weight and I spoke with them after the fact, they found out about it when everybody else did like they hit the scale. That's when they knew their opponents way. When were you made aware that she was having a hard time and that she was going to miss well, I, got already made way and we were. You know obviously waiting for the rest of the athletes to do so and. By manager was messaging me messaging. My coach at my phone was on silent been attention, more concerned Ruth, rehydrating Sean Shelby came up to me, told me no. She's GonNa Miss, and then you know after speaking to manager too I mean they're all saying the same thing, and so I mean. If if why would you know? Be something that we make up? So it's just a it just it sucks honestly I really don't even want to. Talk about it too much like done and over with I think she's. she's already receiving a lot of backlash for it. So I I don't i. don't really like all that stuff on social media stuff. But it is what it is. It's just You know. It's what happened. You know I'm getting asked about. It's talking about it, but I kinda just want to. Just. Leave that alone honestly. Enough I mean. Just to kind of follow up. You are taking the fight, no matter what, obviously, she stayed within the guidelines of the commission. Yeah, absolutely under percent matter, but it's just as I was just. It was just how it played out the whole story behind it just kinda crazy. No, and be you know you get asked about AC-. Talk about it. You know The I is what it is what it is. So I'm curious about one thing and I don't know if you can even answer this question. Because my producer Casey and I were having this conversation. Before you came on and in boxing, you can be out there. You can watch your opponent way, and if you choose to do so, you have that option. Is that possible in the AFC? If you had any like? If you find out, let's just say like Dan. Danny Room senior manager sends a text to you and your coaches. You've already made wait. Are you allowed to go out there and watch your way in? Yeah, no, we were, there were not allowed to leave until everybody ways in, so we're all just sitting in the area and everybody goes stage one. One by one, but we're all sitting there waiting It was just kind of weird. How the whole thing happened. You know 'cause we get those for you. Get that information and then thirty minutes later. It's something completely different, and it was just Kinda like A. It was weird, because remember, everybody's weight was being set out loud when we waited and you know everybody when she weighed in those kind of like. There was it was just such a weird situation. I don't know but you know like I said it is what it is. We'll just that behind. You know. Number two in the world now. So. Let's let's talk with because personally I scored a fifty to forty five for you. I thought you went all five rounds, and it's funny because we were getting ready to go and kick off our live post by coverage on the website and I told our producer I was like I. Guarantee You that some judge is GonNa come back with a forty, eight, forty, seven scorecard and sure enough forty forty seven for you. That seems a little outlandish to me. Yeah I mean it doesn't surprise me. It's Vegas it's not the first time You know that they do horrible 'cause. So, You know I knew that? That was the thing I. Knew I feel I. Jessica is team Kinda. Do I mean to some Finnish people you know she always like either decision. Fights I. Don't think that. I don't I don't think that they believe that she was going to finish me, so they knew that it was going to be decision. When the new how the judges can be swayed the entire Fi if you year her corner, they're just yelling. Ridiculous Shit to try to like you know kind of bullshit. The judges to make it seeing on their favorite. Because let's be honest. A lot of the judge of Marne even experience. They don't even know more. So, if someone's yelling, making it seem like the fights actually going different than what it was. You know which is unfortunate because they played a game because they also gave their fighter a false sense of confidence, because they made her feel like she was winning the fight, so it's like. Why was she even pushing even harder? You know, so it just kind of. yeah, it's just it's just yeah. What kinds of were they say what kinds of things well I would just say you know when you know. That was year round just like I just took your ass out. The obviously won the fight and you're like. Does Your Round Jessica? She don't want to be in. There should want because they're like you know, and it's like no, don't say that like say. Hey, you know releasing, inspire or hey, it's a close fight. You better go out there and you better. Get this finishing killer. You know it's just that's what you need to do and I don't think. They did that I think that they did that also because they were going to sway the judge, because I don't think that they believe that they would get a finish, so the only way they would do is by win Jessica their wits by splits or very close decisions, and if they can sway the judges, and you Kinda Way I think that was there. I think that was her black. Out. One of the interesting things about fighting an empty arena. What you got to do on Saturday and you went. To the first time in a UFC Fi, what did you think of the whole thing? I thought it was pretty cool. I like the fact that it was a smaller cage. 'cause obviously it pushes the action more You don't get to dance elaboration and and. Being able to hear everything you know to hear her coaches clearly i. think that a lot of people were. They're gonNA. End Up doing because I know that we're trying to do is give nicknames for certain combinations or throwing luckily for me, some of the company since they were yelling already knew, and I'd be kind of like messing with them, because like he I think her coach Eric was like calling for like certain combos. Instead of throwing them, I would go them so. But I. Just you know is playing a game I feel like a man. I liked I enjoyed that we were able to hear everything you know and It was pretty cool, 'cause. Dino's like right there, too, so it's. Pretty it's not like a blur. Usually have to block all of that stuff out. There is just kind of. I don't know it was Kinda. It was. A street fight environment in a way. Yeah, no I like that I thought it was cold I I'm doing now and I. I thought it was great. So you know how it is, Cynthia you win, you get to savor the flavor for like thirty minutes before everyone starts asking you what's in? Your very interesting spot, because you can go and a lot of different directions right now if you wanted to, you could probably way for title fight. It's likely balancing is GonNa Join Calderwood? Nobody would argue you getting the winner of that fight. We got Caitlin Kagan she's now. The number one ranked fighter in the division head of you. She called you after the win and is also a big fight this weekend with Roxy amount of ferry and Laura Murphy. The winner of that would make a lot of sense especially, if Roxanne wins I have other ideas for Lauren if she wins but. That'd be a lot of fun to. But after me, babbling for thirty seconds going through those options, what makes sense to you? Absolutely those are actually exactly what me and my manager in my coach talks about as far as like. The options are so We're GONNA. See how it plays out. We'll see how this fight this weekend goes in. Will make that decision these last couple of days obviously. We. Have all I know is that I want to line a fight up, but we haven't decided like you know what wherever you want to go. We're GONNA see what presents itself once. We talked to Mick. I'm going to get back into the gym on Monday so. Once, we get that going Then we'll know what the next step, but those are. Definitely the options that we're looking at right therapy. Be Caitlyn or the winner of. Mater fairy or. Lauren. Or you know who knows it just depends because you never know if anybody is injuries and stuff like that, and if I if I'm up next for the title, gladly take it right after you know Joanne Calderwood. You know get her shot. It AK is open now, right? no. They're not I thought so. I mean I think they are but like. Not all the way you know, I mean as far as when I left. There wasn't but I know everything's changed by week. It's been changing. I haven't been home for you. But from the last time that I left, there it was an open to just anybody so is just depending on who they off by of course the DC. They're going to have the doors open for the You know what I mean but as far as for everybody else to the public and stuff like that, is it? It is not open yet. like even for me. When I got to train for two weeks there, it was just my coach in like two or three trading partners in not. Not Everybody was allowed. I wanted to ask you this virtual media day and I am very happy to find out what kind of toppings you lie on your pizza. That's. Fun, but you talked about throughout the week. Like what Isa. Eats East San Jose means to you being back home with your parents close to AK, and and I can't remember this. is you posting this on Instagram or not? So if I'm wrong, I'M GONNA. Look absolutely foolish right now, but I'm pretty sure that I thought that you posted a video of your dad in the backyard, getting some working with with ropes, the handles like kind of old school first off. He's told me that was. ME. My Dad so funny. So I once I decided to stay there with my parents. During this quarantine I brought in a bunch of like equipment that I had an like my died. He's retired, so he likes to do know his own home project sound whatever like makeup or put together so? You know how to bag set up all these other things, so he grabbed a couple of bad. Attached to the To the walls and polls outside in the backyard, and just you know like sue workout. He loves it. He's at my dad's also I. Feel like I never really watched him play too many sports radio. I'm pretty sure that he was younger. House. Thank God. Thank God. I was you because I just wasted three minutes? Ask You a question that wouldn't have been you, but I guess I like the fall to that is being from that area and having that great relationship with your parents like how much of your like fighting spirit comes from them. mean I feel like. It. Their hard work and everything doesn't go notice you know we can. We can tell by you know just the years and years of work that they put in. You know you can tell in their voice, and just you know how other knowledge wiser so it's like it like. I'm the baby. So I'm like I would say probably got the best of them but I might have got a little bit of the worst of them, too, so but. I'll be for the most part. They're the biggest thing that stuck to me. Is You know work at the like? Egypt you gotTA show up and you gotTA show up on time and you gotTa Work Your. Ass Off, and you know that's the mentality that they instilled in me and so I'm extremely grateful like so weird because it's like I didn't have that tip. Same type of motivation doing anything else like I would do. The bare minimum like I was just not interested I was motivated to do that. But when it comes to fighting and training is just sight, there's I. There's nothing else I'd rather be doing. You know. Show up early and do everything I have to do and you know. It's. Pretty crazy but I'd say they definitely of a a big part in that. Well after you're like sixtieth interview in the last week, I will let go gradually. A fantastic performances huge jump in the rankings, just just a massive win for you. Thank you for the time as always and we'll talk soon of course, thank you. Lot of options right now for Cynthia calvillo coming out of Saturday night. Another big fight is certainly coming her way. I, don't know what I mean. Kagan fight is a lot of fun. If she wants to wait for the winner of balancing shift Chanko versus join Calderwood wouldn't blame her. The winner of rocks and modify reverse Lauren Murphy sounds like a lot of fun especially. Iraqi modifier wins Lauren Murphy Wins. And just guy plans on staying at one hundred twenty five pounds and she can make the weight. Just Guy Verse Lauren Murphy's Fight. We want to see for a while and just guy had had talked about on the virtual media. There's one woman in particular that she would fight for free in a back alleyway, and I believe. She very well could be talking about Lauren Murphy. There's a lot of heat there so I. I would look at that of Lauren Murphy wins if they matter fairy wins, do rocks versus Cynthia Caveat, but again a lot of options there. And you know who may have the the the answer to that question, Jose Young's or tsn Aaron branstetter because they join me. Between the links this past week, check it out on Youtube or the podcast network. What a battle of was, and the consensus is ads judge? I stink him. Talk Good, and maybe they're right. I don't know but check it out. The episode is Great. Jose was great. Aaron was awesome. It's it's really fun, so go check that out speaking a great. That's a word to describe this next conversation ahead of next weekend's event in Las Vegas Combo Worthy makes a second appearance against Louis Pain. Yeah I love this matchup. We're going to hear from both of these guys back to back I. The death star then Violet Bob. Ross right now on. WHAT THE HECK! We have comma worthy on the show. Here turns the action next. Saturday June twenty-seventh taken on Lewis Pain in Las Vegas, the death star returns to the Octagon, and he makes what the heck debut right now. com good to see you man. How are you? Good. TACO boat a road to get to the second UFC fight. We spoken I think late, February I believe ahead of your April eighteenth fight your scheduled a fight on as Ataur at UFC two forty, nine, the promotion. The event book you against Michael Johnson Tachi Palace in the plug gets pulled on that event, and now you're back two months later. How thrilled were you to finally just get a contract to put your pen on after all this time? Yeah Man I. Actually took this three weeks basic three weeks notice or two and a half weeks notice bows is ready. To go really I just really wanted to take the fight and really wanted to like A. Fight again is out. It's almost been a year since last. A little bit wild. The pandemic is obviously affected you as a fighter, but it's affected you in multiple ways, not just because of getting you back in the octagon, but you're Jim Otar. I remember the last time I spoke with you your, tell me that you're moving your gym to a new location which I believe you've you've done at this point? But how would you describe these last three months or so? Active. Yeah I had it plant that I was supposed to fight, and then I was going move after my fire then I didn't happen, so you didn't have the money to do anything. Then you had to do everything yourself. As people aren't really going out, you are no moving companies or anything. So everything was put on on on hold for a little bit, and I had to do a lot of stuff myself or get some people from the Jim. They helped me out. There and we've made it through, and now it's time to move forward. After April? Eighteenth fellow were you offered any other fights like even on the new date of UFC two forty nine. Had you been approached anything else the first thing? I got offered. Jude, Dover like to go out and I was like I hadn't trained. The Jim wasn't complete, so I had no words like actually go in training so I had to turn I bound because I know he was. I think he was helping gay. He get ready for. Tony Ferguson I was like yeah I'm back. Is. My sinuses are killing me right now. Yeah it's nerve sinuses season. Oh my God so bad, but I like now me and my coat sat down or is it just wasn't the right fight, so we just at the weight off? Then I I didn't know I was like Oh i. kept asking their fight allow may wanNA skipped past me, but this one fell in my lap so I'm John, Boehner. Do you remember the last time you've gone this long without a fight? I injured my my last loss I injured my thumb and I took this long off. And then there's one time but female Ford I hope this time off I wrote. I don't like to take this much time on like like I turned thirty four October I don't really have a lot of time would be sitting around like when my son, my ass, like when scientists little bit of a long time for. Absolutely and that's exactly what it was. I think it was you'd lost back to back fights. It was ten months between those two fights, and then it was ten months between your last loss, and then the I went on this winning streak so here we go ten months. You know can mean a good thing for you. Longtime. Lacking. But I like the progress that me but I still like to stay aggregate more active. Well now you get to keep that activity moving you get louise pain you. We get the death star versus violent Bob Ross and Louise's and exciting guide. There's a lot of hype surrounding. Him Sounds pretty familiar, does not. S It's a it's a very familiar familiar place for me so I. Mean Like I could stay with me. Being at my age, it's just what I'm going to run into a lot like a of younger guys and stuff like that so i. just take it for is and. Run the course. The timing of this fight in you having layoff. You know we're we're. We're in the middle of very chaotic time in the world, not just because of Kobe. But you know everything that's going on in the country now against a racial inequality, becoming more prevalent than it has in a long long time. We're seeing fighters on the roster. Use their platforms to get their messages across, which I think is amazing with that aspect of where the country sort of currently stands on these issues with the protests and the riots and the timing of this fight I guess is this much more important time for you to be fighting than? It would've been on April eighteenth. That really I mean I I, I of course like you say like the world has definitely waking up. and kind of seeing things what it is not just in America but worldwide, but in the same sense I think I live faster also progress I told you I, don't want. People liked. Forget because like. I've been at world's Wigan I've been fucking doing this forever. But it's like but I think by. Just. Go, okay? Sorry, no I said I, think it's. Just. How how it progresses and stuff I don't really think. It's I think there's no time and time you know what I mean like. I was just like my journey. GET INTO USC. Don't get me wrong I. Really wanted to be on that card that that that that like whenever basically when like you're supposed to be the end of the world and that car was supposed to the only thing happened. I think that would have been really important, but. Each to each time that think get get planned. Don't get laid out in. They happen the way they're supposed to. That's the right time it's supposedly happened I. Try not to overthink things like that too much. Have you ever had to I mean I'm sure you've Dulles with issues like this in the past, but if you had to deal with any sort of issues with law, enforcement or anyone of power throughout your life, as a as a black man, and as a fighter, or you know any other parts of your journey that you can think of. I mean I'm I'm I'm a black guy grew up in the suburbs of Pittsburgh. That's why. You know people like I had a couple of my white friends mets me like apologize for some like you don't have to apologize and I the narrow. Oh I, just never really understood I'm like. Yeah, I get it like I mean. I have a couple of I've have a couple of friends are city cops and stuff and I have friends by made by I. Have People from all different walks of life, but that doesn't. That doesn't exclude me off because. If, you have money, you're this. You're that it excludes you from me like you saw. Do from Saturday night live. They just dragged him on grounds ground. It doesn't so. It doesn't doesn't really matter like so. Like it, unfortunately, it's. Part of American history in it's a part that people don't act like exists by. Like like you don't like. The other day was just the ninety ninth anniversary of the massacre in Tulsa, and no one acts like it exists one's in school like you'll know what people don't really aren't really known about black, Wall Street, but still happened because you ignore. Something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, so I mean it's still relevant. I yeah all obviously I mean so. At Glen Look what can you do about it now? The good thing is that people are just like upset about it more than just a minority I. It's just like one thing to happen to women like the meat to move on I. Guess You could say like we know. It used to be like Joe like what Late eighties nineties. If a woman got raped or something like it was like what will be with deal. Bay, you go to police Like you know I mean Shit still to this day. They tell girls they can't wear mini skirts. You can't wear shirts in school. 'cause it might excite a guy or some silly the. Still still part of the culture means so now just think this time that we're living is just going to be broken down in history as a really important tanker lab people start to see a Lotta messed up stuff that goes around in this country allies that needs to be addressed in just a mint. In everyone keeps saying. All of you teach them Jillian Ju Jitsu. I'm not a whole bunch of assholes. Do Percents doesn't doesn't change anything like a bunch of? Do. Your thing you have to change the mentality of what type of behavior is accepted and required to do this job. I mean like. Clean Sample I. And like a mental evaluation, be more important than anything. Else I mean so. It's it's. It's really a crazy thing because like. I you know if you. Know if you have a gun, feel more secure. Because you know you have a gun the that's still like the equalizer for situation, and in that unlike and I think with the police officers like they just they're just not properly trained, and it's just not. It's not a different mentality. It's they have authority level. They used to use the using. Is that a hundred percent of them? No way not at all, but it are. It is a mentality. It's you, don't you? Don't tell another cops. At that system. That system entirely like the don't that's that's just how it is in that type of things it's. It's. It goes by a lot of situations in America that goes into play I mean I always think about the whole Penn state thing. Other about that I know a lot of people went to Penn State when I would say fuck Oh No, you don't eat him like dude. If you knew the guy was raping kids. It, you saw him every day job return was like. How was that guy in his eighties or some shit? Then you go home to your wife. If you're old guy, you tell your wife how your day goes to the mini. The data he found out he went home. He told his wife and they probably have their probably around other grand cases like that. And if you got, you're okay. With that Europe piece of Shit, noon is not translating. Night is no way around it, and there's no because you don't want to hurt your program, but mad people still since considering him the not the at fault for that Spotlight now that's that whole. No snitching mentality, fuck that Europe piece of shit and I know your piece of shit I'm telling everybody. You're a piece of shit in Vats that has to be the mentality that goes into the workplace in general, especially the police force. You know that someone is racist visas. Share of you know someone sexy Servino selects the abuse their power. You should tell you authorities and the biggest thing police. Have held accountable. That's what I don't think. They get held accountable for at the obviously, because the guy that did that to him. He had like a track record up the ASS. Man Like gets pushed on the table, but It I. Guess. It is what it is now. It's just finally starting to come to light, so it's a good time. The sad time someone had to die again for multiple people had to die, and now it's getting pushed up front, but it's also good time sense. Yeah, I feel like in the end. It, won't be like. We won't have this thing fixed. It's going to take a long time to get to where we need to be. But I think I agree with everything you've said and I. Think another important thing that you touched on is that? It's it's very important to not paint everybody with the same brush, and you sort of alluded you're you're you're you're friends with cops? I know cops personally who are incredible police officers there in the community they gather cars and talk to people, and they're just like incredible people, but you can't paint them with the same paintbrush as you pain. These other guys, you know what I mean. Like now it's, it's not, and that's the big. It safire bad from quite frankly because they're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Because if they do report, they probably get though probably get fired, or you'll probably be considered like a traitor because you're like. You know you're talking on your but night. Duty Meal. That's that's our job. It's but again it's the mentality has been built up. It's like years and years and years and years of discernment. Golly has been built up like that I mean 'cause people like I'll see a lot of people say oh, well the protest and starve. You should do more king like you do realize it. The police arrested Martin Luther King. Right I'm like you gotta think about. Any other police officers coming out and be like Yo. You Guys Free King. That's bullshit and that's how that Madani started. Because if there's someone like Martin Luther King margin for equal rights like even elevated like like civil rights, and there's police officers and stuff trying to stop. You would think that other police officer break my duty since my job as a police officer to like, stand up for for people to stop these other police officers because that's disturbing, and now it's just gone on into now is not that long ago. You know I, mean it wasn't by sixty something years ago that it's not that far. It's like past our lifetimes, but in the grand scheme of things it seems like it's only yesterday like look at him. Compared to other sports, like may have been around for twenty, five, twenty, six, almost thirty years here, especially in this country, but compared to baseball and football Jesus Christ like we're so far behind everybody else exactly exactly man, so it's it's. Time by when you really think about it awhile. It wasn't that long ago. And as I sit back, think about my career like all the time like Oh. Wow, it seems like it's such a long time ago, but didn't really wasn't. It's really hasn't been going on for Senate hasn't been that long so. Yeah completely agree, and now you get ready to take your towns back to the octagon against Louis Pain you next weekend. What have you made of of his run? Thus far in the AFC like he's got a couple of losses. The fight with Mafra Bola was was really really close, and most people feel like he won that fight. You thought Lewis Fight. Watched it tonight happened one I. Watched it again I prayer for? What are your thoughts on? Him is an opponent thought he won that fight to get a a nice win over Steve. Garcia bounce back from that. You know this is. This is a fun match up. As soon as it was announced, everyone was like Oh. This is a good one. What do you think of Lewis's in opponent? Bobby I think he's solid man just. Go Do. You see the gorilla. Lay Tampa guys. I think it'll be a really interesting fighting I think he's. Come the fight a we. Ob Are we. His name is Bob Ross like fuck. Yeah, man! We go down there and throwdown. That's a good combination. I'm really looking. I'm really looking forward to it. And then like hopefully everything goes as planned than I. Don't Walkway within the injuries I want out like the fight in July as well. I just get to fights in back to back. You want to go to the island is that you want to win this Ohi-. I'M GONNA year I'm. I'm ready to get on it Mike Keane Gone Gaza Kong Island and take my phone back so. Soon as possible. So you, you've go from fighting on a featured prelims on a pay per view in front of a packed house to an empty arena and a small cage in the UFC apex. It's almost like a throwback and a lot of ways because you've been doing this for a long time. Are you excited for that and like getting to hear that sound of leather, just cracking skin next weekend? and. I'm I'm Super Geek to see like how it see how it is like I don't normally like when it comes down to fight time, brain shuts down anyway, and it goes to like a computer mode. So. If we paying attention to the sounds that makes, but I know like what you hear, the crowd and stuff like that all. At all plays into your brain operation, now on in, so it'll be interesting to see so I mean like I I always talk a little bit of smack when I fight to so I'll be like the of talk. A little bit I the Gloria share fight that was finding like. Go Zaragoza's Party behaviorally. Weird. It's. Because it's a different, you can hear everything's different. The different thought processes going to your installs. I'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm curious because I know you watch a lot of fights, and we've seen so many finishes in the smaller cage. It seems like the fights are a little more exciting and I get I get Dana White's perspective from a business aspect, but from an entertainment standpoint. Like why do you think Dana? White isn't a big fan of the smaller cage. 'cause like it seems like you know cells that every time he's asked about it. Yeah, I'm not sure I mean. I don't know what's going on. Dana White's Dana White, but I don't really care if a big gate small cage whatever I'll I'll think the changes are pushing. The accident I just think the. Times are pushing that act like what's going on right now. How people react to what's going on the urgency everything. Just the people are taking a fights and stuff I mean the most. These fights are being taken on two weeks. Notice, so people will be I think people are approaching the fights differently. I think there's fighting fighting differently. I mean like I've seen. A lot of people are out of shape, too. That's A. Glad allowed people were how to save what I'm seeing a lot of fights people out of state. Off, faulk took his fighting in their his. Don't seem like they really WanNa beat her if you had some guys like. The feely fight. They were going to add it good lawyer trying to kill each other. Marriages signed. Me The dying there, and it was brutal I. Hope they got the bonus. 'cause I watch that fight rubber mile AIDS from Lake exit relying on each, they were beat Shit. I'm gums bodies, and and sometimes like it's just like that and I think this fire with me and and It'd be the same way. I think is going to be a grueling pain full, exhausting, bloody bone, shattering, die, fight and stuff, so we do crowd therapy afterwards cycle fights. No performance bonus for that fight by the way because they didn't give out tonight, they gave out off four performance bonuses, so I thought that fight should have got by myself. It ain't give they get styles such a good fight. That's mind blowing man. It was not like the the type of heat that they were throwing it out. I guess I'd start is. Slated three knockouts one minute in the first three fights I. Guess they all at risk off the top, so they didn't Julianne. Bula did not get a bonus. She had the rest finish of anybody and she didn't get a bonus. How. Does be tossed us in hammers and shit. Well you'll be looking for a bonus. I'm sure next weekend. How do you remind all these fans that may have forgotten about that? Win Over devante Smith about a year or so ago. How do we? How do we remind them next Saturday night, comma? I'm just going to go out there. I that's the sucky part about breaking onto the scene. Wait, I did so. You'RE GONNA kill this guy bet on my money from listen man I'm going out there I'm GonNa do what I do best. The that's win and entertaining. Just because that's just type of person, I am Mike. How exactly on that too Shrek win by submission win by decision? I can win by knockout. ACKLAND, by that coming off, the stool can win by guerrilla slam. There's all kinds of. Win, all. I'm going to get the W.. Before we let you go. One of the reasons I was very excited about this conversation was I went back to our last Chad and you gave one of the greatest breakdowns of a fight that I've ever heard in my entire life before it fell out. I asked you to give your thoughts on Habiba amalgamated. Versus Ferguson and I still cannot get your breakdown out of my head. It was hilarious. It was unbelievable, but now we have another fight to talk about just engaged beating Tony Ferguson. Champion so now it appears that Habib is GonNa fight just engaged maybe in September I. Don't know when that's going to happen, but it's going to happen so Aldo where three. Probably like three or so months away from that fight happening. Can we get your thoughts on that matchup Habib, versus Katie? Yeah I. Think. That is the worst matchup for the. I think gates worse just because he the high level I've I've heard from people that arrested with him. That us like he was like could have been like an Olympic level rest he was. That Gervais Wrestler and he's never used in any fight. He's never. He has zero takedown attempts in his USC career. Stats. Thing, so I think it's a bad match up I. do think it's good for for Karma Gregory, though 'cause I think Karma. McGregor beats just he just because. Car! McGregor has like a frigging gatling gun isn't on his arm. and. Get is okay with getting hit on hit. By car. Also but yet think I, think he I think he beat his. ABS League, really bad and ends up knocking him out. That's my prediction. had been wrongly did avenue haven't going through my previous picks at pig with my oceans when I picked away, fights, and Shit? I've been like five twelve for the past four US cars. I need to get better at that. You go man. You get your own things to worry about your own fights. Prepare for her so. Get Past. Best. Always great talk with you man. That's going to be a great fight next weekend. A lot of people are looking forward to this against Louis Pain Yeah. Hopefully this is the first of many fights for you and twenty twenty. Hopefully I'll goes well. We get to see on fight island, always a pleasure chatting with you safe travels, and all the best because we get ma'am. Awesome Matt Weather. Back in action next weekend at the Apex Las Vegas is this man Luiz painel takes on Combo worthy and a superfund fight at one hundred fifty five pounds violent Bob. Ross joins the program for the first time Lewis. How are you mega? Getting Mike. How are you doing great? It's been a minute. Sir I know some things have changed since we've last spoken. You're now in Sunny Florida training with att. How's it going in the sunshine? State? Good I'm loving it out here. I've had a really fun time. You know getting acquainted to my coaches and teammates here to American top team that I'm just having a lot. Lot of fun, you know just enjoying the weather enjoying the beach and all this stuff. It's been really fine this. It's a really great aspect like because I I got here in December and I. Don't think there's been a single lake week where we haven't been able to go to the beach I go to the pool. Just chill out in the Sun Do somethin'. That's get. It's always good to find distractions. It's in peace outside of the outside of the training room right. Most definitely especially during all this time. We're these crazy times. For sure and like we've seen fighters changed Cam so many times over the years, and it just ends up being a better fit overall, and some things just click where they have in the past. Like what what do you think's been the biggest difference for you as a fighter and as an athlete since making that move? I'd say the biggest difference for me, so is just like. The just the amount of of coaches I have like direct access to pretty much twenty four seven. You know whether it be a Jujitsu coach wrestling coach, the countless striking coaches. You know what I mean. You have someone there all the time and The one other thing I like is just the the the amount of one on one attention I get from each different particular coach. Really Really Nice, really cool. There's been something I've really really appreciated since I made this move. We last saw you compete in February against Steve. Garcia who took the fight on short notice to replace Alex, Magno so I think it was like the week of the fight, and it was the dominant win for you, but you were not overly thrilled with that performance after maybe going back and watching, it did change on that, or did it still leave a sour taste in your mouth? Part I I it is. It is one of those things where I going back again I can kind of take a little bit of pride like I got to show some people. Some things you know you haven't that. A lot of people haven't seen for me before going out there and just like out wrestling someone for an entire fight but at the same time you know I still just I kind of wish I would have gotten off in gotten a just a little bit more. opened up a little bit more, you know. Just a allowed the striking to to play out a little bit more, but I feel like this is the perfect fight to let that happen. Like cliche in sports after a game or a fight you go back to the drawing board right? Like what specifically did you feel like? You needed to tighten up whether maybe it's physical and you mentioned maybe not being able to pull the trigger and open up as much as you wanted to. Was it something maybe on the mental side of the game that you had to go back and sort of tweak up a little bit? Yeah no I think a little bit of physical and mental you know. When we got back when back I took a little time off, and then we came back got got back to the drawing board I I looked to I look at that fight in I. I tried to watch for some things that I could improve upon you know I've you know I kind of looked at like my movement, and how I was letting him in in why had to kind of resort to wrestling right off the bat with him? And also kind of like the mental aspect was Kinda staying in the fire in in not just shoot on the leg as soon as I feel. Any heat. Juror fight a guy where you had his back like that and you just so active in that position. Like was so weird. No I haven't. One thing that kind of threw me off going with. We're like fighting. Him is like he was so active just with knee on his back, but he wasn't really They think he was content there. He wasn't really trying to get me off of them wasn't ever trying to escape the back in. In just people I've gotten I got a lot of criticism for not finishing him, but people don't understand when someone's just like content with you on on their back in his. It's just wants to survive. That can be really really hard to score finish. Yeah I would agree with that I think a lot of people were were sort of thrown out by that and we weren't even in the cage with you, but still I mean you're when they try to escape. That's when you try to find your openings to finish the fight and they weren't there. Exactly you know you gotta take what what's your phone? It gives you in this in these in the sport, so just like I had to take all the opportunities ahead, and that was the thing you know. He presented really easy. setups for take downside I just took him in when it came to. Be Like actually being on imitating back and everything he wasn't really presenting a lot of openings so I had to do what I could just to secure the win. I don't I do remember you getting some criticism after the fight because of the performance and you're very self critical yourself I. Don't remember a time where you were criticized before and I find it kind of puzzling, because and I find it puzzling anytime. Fans critique fighters because they're not fighters like that'd be like me telling you how to fight. It makes no sense and then there's no stock in that you know what I mean. Yeah No, it is what it is i. mean the nature of Sports. You'RE GONNA have critics in people telling you what you did wrong. No matter what. You'll you look at guys sitting on the couch, telling someone like Lebron James He needs a better jumper. Whatever and it's like. That's Lebron. You know what I mean like. I'm not even the physical specimen. They guy is like i. have no no business telling that anything about athletics and you're telling me that like some couch. Potato has the the the physical accurate. The sports knowledge to be able to tell him or me or any other professional athlete what they need to do. Like six seven to seventy five. It doesn't need help for many, but not necessarily. This is ben a crazy couple of years for you man like in and out of the cage like from from meeting your biological father. Then you met your brother like. How would you describe these these last couple of years of your life? Men? Were Rolling. There's no. There's definitely no other way to describe it. I've I've I've enjoyed it though it's been. It's been really cool, because as much as like people getting no me and like. In I'm gaining fans through through my performances in the cage and everything people are kind of like getting to see a lot of things outside of the cage like it's helped me gain a fan base I. Don't think I would've been able to tap into without that. It's almost like it's I wouldn't say it's like compared to the last time I talked to you. You just seem much more at ease. Is that accurate I? Don't know if it was like. A circumstances that you know meaning the family members, maybe some of that stuff that's happened over the years, and you know wondering what it'd be like to meet them, and now that you finally done done it. Do you feel like that? That's helped. Put you in this position right now mentally. Most, definitely I'd say those revelations answering those questions getting into foster, those relationships definitely helped. Take my mind off of things ease. Ease the some burdens that had on my mind and You know. My girlfriend's actually really really good at helping with that as well so you know just the amount of time we've been able to spend together throughout all the Corinthian everything. She's also helped. can make everything easy for me especially with this camp coming up. Or good this. Camp I've heads short notice camps. That's how you know you with the right one if you can survive a quarantine with right right. It's obviously it's. It's been an interesting couple of years for you, but this has been a really interesting year in your last fight was one of the very last sporting events that took place in front of a live audience, and we didn't know when things may pick back up against like maybe maybe like the beginning of March mid. March we were you like. Thank goodness I got to fight Norfolk. Because I don't know what. I'm GONNA fight again. A little bit, so yeah, no, they definitely went through my mind. At one point where I was worried about you know. WHERE IS GONNA win? I was GONNA fight. If I was GONNA fight again this year. Because after the Norfolk fight, I'd kind of road map what I wanted to do for the remainder of the year. Then everything gets a ranch thrown in it in one. It's like I started talking managers, and once we started re like figuring out like when the US going to start doing stuff again. That's like when my tensions were ease. And I actually I've been looking at this date. June twenty-seventh since probably early March mid March anyway so I I mean. I didn't necessarily know what was going to happen like if we were still gonNA have fights whatever but I'd kind of been tentatively looking in preparing for June twenty-seventh for a couple of months now so when I got the call that it was official I was I was ready to go. Roster Donnas over here, just pointing dates, and you know they're coming now. You'RE GONNA fight next weekend taking on com worthy and this fight came together pretty quickly, but it seems like you're already ready for that date anyways. How did you react to the matchup and seeing comma worthy on the other side of it? You know commas definitely been someone that words on my radar, obviously, since the since he knocked out, devante Smith I mean Devante was has been on my radar. He's a guy that I. Look at that I might get matched up with, so he took out devante length that that is i. that's another guy this in the mix. That could be there, so it wasn't something I was super surprised with. But. I was I. don't know I told him. My managers. I was looking for something a little necessarily something bigger, but someone a little bit more tenured UFC. This is my seven walked the octagon. You know what I mean, and it's the only be commerce second, not taking anything away from him for that, but I just wanted you know someone a little bit more of. A around the same experience level in the UFC, but commas like he's also at the same time. He's got some name value in high behind him with the devante Smith knockout. So the same time it was like another person. That's like I, don't I? Don't mind having to take that. Step down and experience level whatever 'cause I still see it as like a lucrative matchup for me, and I think it's a really good match up stylistically I. Don't know I just. I really liked the match up I really like Our the way our skill sets a line and I think this is just a good matinee matchup for me, but just a match up for the fans I hope you can go out there and put it on the show that I know everyone expects to. Plus you get that veteran views veteran experience, because although he hasn't been in the AFC for awhile, he's well traveled. You got a ton of fights under his belt. He's been super active over the last couple of years, so so it's definitely a notch for the belts in a definitely not in the experience department is not. Oh without a doubt, you know you can't take anything away from a guy that fought Paul builder in his second fight, you know. So you, you study up on these guys you know. Do you watch a lot of footage on your opponents at all? Do you let your coaches and kind of play off of them? We I, mean so. I watched a I've watched a couple of fights with my coaches washed. A couple of fights with my girlfriend watched a couple of friends and everything i. don't do a whole whole lot of film study I kind of watched the way they do things rather than what they do in kind of leave it at that. My coaches figure out you know. The game plans as far as like watching studying. Figuring out what what they want to do, and all that I kind of leave it at that, but I just like to go in there and I like to see like how he does things. Like, you know If. He was like what what does he WANNA? Do you WanNa? Take the ground. Does he want to stay standing? How's he throwing punches and kicks and stuff like that. What kind of techniques as he thrown out there? Does he like to get you know crazy in an unorthodox or does he stay Kinda? Like ones and twos and threes stuff like that that that's what I look for, but. For the most part I really don't watch a whole lot of your. Comma literally right before I spoke with you, and we're talking about the fight. And I asked him how he sort of sees it, and he says that after watching last weekend's card, the fight that stuck out in his mind was Andrea feely versus Charles Jordanian. Those two guys going back and forth he expects a very similar fight with you guys just GonNa. Go in there, and and just let it all hang out and have a good technical, but violent fight. You sort of see it. Go in the same way. No without a doubt that was actually It's funny that he said he brought up. Because like watching a fight I! I got the same feeling you know I feel like we're going to go in there and let it all hang out is gonNA be buried technical very violent in this probably not gonna be a lot of grammar. It's going to be alive A. We're GONNA see you know who can like I said before we're going to meet in the middle seat. WHO DROPS I I think? There's this great photo that your teammate. Mike Davis posted on Instagram was him. You Mike Brown or Hey Mazda Dust Emporia, and in a couple of others, and you mentioned the importance of working with that coaching staff and getting that individual attention, twenty, four seven, but getting to work with the collective here. There's just so much knowledge in one photo. It's mind-blowing. Mike Brown's become one of the best coaches in the sport. He's a former world champion and get. Former interim, lightweight champion, they got Mazda. The frigging be champion became a huge style last year pretty tough to top that crew. Sharing the mats with is not. Nor without a doubt it's it's been this camp. I can't lie I. It's been some of the best work I've gotten since I've been here pretty much. In my entire career, my I, can without a doubt say my two main trading partners for the entire camp has been dusted in whore. Hey, you know I've been trained with Mike, Brenner Davis a little bit we've we've gotten some rounds in. We got some good work in. He's helped me out a lot. Mardell Marcus Perez, we a lot of working That's a good a good one of my good friends Tiago voices in not Wakon Condo. I do a lot of roles with them. guess I got some good roles in with Barbosa to. This whole camp is just been a WHO's who of trading partners for me man. It's been great. I feel very very confident. Very prepared walking in there June twenty-seventh. And after sharing that time a dozen Pori. It's got to be a pretty cool feeling to share this card with him with him at the top of the bill. Yeah most definitely 'cause like when when this first started, I was pretty much I was. They were bringing me into help him work. Help him out for Dan Hooker right because you know, we were very similar body styles. In, you know I can do a lot of the things I can emulate Dan very well, so they brought me in in like maybe a weakened that I was like Yo. It's time for me to go so like now me Dustin are getting into. together we push each other, and not only that but hoy comes. Comes in in his brought into the mix, and he's pushing the both of us, you know bringing a were in the three of us are bringing each other to a different level. It's been great, I think it's been a the the the atmosphere. The environment at top team between the three of us have been great. We've been pushing each other, really hard and everybody's kind of at this point all Focus on the same goal. You know we're bringing three guys myself. Dustin and Felipe Bay Lynn's a next week. We're bringing are like nine different coaches. Att's coming strong. I I wasn't sure if you did or not, but I know because I know. You've just got a att in December. Did you ever did you train with Kobe Covington at all I? Know he's no longer part of the team, but you get a chance to work with him at all. It's funny you, you're not. You're not the first person that's asked me about this doubt. You'll be the last, but rise I legitimately never seen that man in the gym. I'm not saying he never been there while I was there but me and him just never crossed paths. We were never even in the same area at the same time I've never liked saw him. You know what I mean, so it's like I don't have any experience with the man I. I've never spoken words to him so I. Don't know anything you know as far as and when it comes to like the behind the scenes deal. I kind of stayed myself there at the gym. Anyway you know I. I live there in the dorms in like I come out. Right, before practiced, warmed up. Don't really talk to nobody on the I. Leave Right after go straight to my dorm and out of by like stay in my dorm premarital. They'll talk to nobody except my girlfriend ns about it. So when it comes all of that I, don't really know too much. Yeah! I was looking for you. Know the salacious scoop or anything like that I was just. I was just curious. 'cause you know by the time you got there to the time he left wasn't a lot of time. And you know you hear conflicting reports different takes on them so I was just. Just kind of curious, but more importantly than that. The next chapter of your career is going to be written next Saturday in an empty arena in Las Vegas you've done the empty arena thing before the small cage thing before and the ultimate fighter. Do you look at this as I've done this before? I'm used to it or is this like a totally different thing altogether? Oh. No, without a doubt. That's something you know me like I talked to Conan. Doing this as I was like, how do you feel about about fighting in an empty arena small cage as I? Do you forget I was on ultimate fighter man Mike. This ain't nothing to me. Lay, there'll be. There'll probably be less people there. At Apex. There was when we fought on the fighter. You know what I mean like. In. For me that I don't know is is not a, it's not really anything. That I care about although I'm not GONNA lie. It's going to be cooler walkout music this time. JEVON official prediction here. Prediction men I don't know. I WANNA. Say Third Round Tko, but I could also see you know. Our snow into a decision commas very tough is going to be hard to get out of there and I know he's fighting for a lot just as much as I am. We are looking forward to this one in a big way. It's a obviously a tough time in the time in the country, and while it doesn't. Fix All of it. It provides a nice distraction and you're going to be a big part of that before. Let you go, Louise. I appreciate the time very much anything else. You want to get off your chest. I just WANNA to say. Thank you to all the fans that have been tuning into the UFC over these past few weeks in past couple of months I know we've been like one of the only distractions for everybody in his just a huge huge appreciation for everybody that supported us and been able to that we've been able to provide a little bit of entertainment solace for and these hard times. Guys for continuing to support us, you know. Hopefully we can continue to entertain. While said Man Save travels to Vegas and all the best to you and you seven. Good catching up with you. Mike have a good day. Really appreciate both those guys coming on this week. Comma worthy just amazing insight from him, not just about the fight and the matchup, but everything going on in the world and in the country right now and it was great. Seeing a very at ease, Lewis paintings that fight is going to be great. One should be a lot of fun. In the Co. made event of next weekend's event will be Mike. Perry taking on our next guest and I'll be honest. I thought we're going to see him. Mickey goal that was going to be completely fired up hurling insults. Seen that guy before talked to that guy many times, but This is a very relaxed man. Heading into a second UFC comb event against a guy who has had a lot to say already in the bill up to this fight. Being joined right now by Mickey Gall. Back on the show and back in action on June, twenty-seventh is Mickey, Golic take a Mike Perry, the comb events of fight night, poor versus Hooker in Las Vegas always good to see my friend. Has It gone great broad doing? Are You doing great? This is a fight fight. You've wanted for a little while now and you knew it would come eventually, but you get it next weekend. It's been a sort of an interesting road to get here, but you're here now. So how excited for the match and just just a fight again, man. Pox I'm really excited. You know it's. been. It's been a little bit Zeitz. They're so I'm super. Ready? This is not the first fight you accepted along the way you did agree to take a fight with Phil Roe last month didn't end up happening, but it was more time I guess if we're looking for silver linings for you to work and sharpen pushing it a fight. You really wanted so I assume this worked out far better than you had hoped after the row fight income through. The bigger fight, so you know I'm happy with it, so it was nice. You know mice got attention. He's got some fans. SORTA wise, so you know it's GonNa. It's GonNa. Be Fun as expected when this was announced. Your opponent Mike Perry has had some interesting things to say saying. This is an easy fight compared to the last three years. He's grateful for this. He says it's a dream. Come true is going to beat your assets CETERA. I'm sure this is what you were expecting here. But how have you sort of reacted to the way that he's approaching this fight the surprising to you at all. Not meant nothing he does is really surprising Nah I don't know that you know that that's cool I hope he's expected to. EXPECT THAT He'll get run over. Diego Sanchez already and we already know he's a different kind of a cad. And Mike is also who he is, and he's to have a lot to say to you. The stare downs and throughout the bill despite you've been here before. You sort of prefer this way when someone's talking a lot of trash and trying to make this thing personal. Yeah. Yeah I I I, think it makes it fun and. You know I don't need any any other like fires to be lit I. got you know I got I gotTa Burn Fire So. You know I'm excited to get out there and just do what I do. It's like you know what I get in there. It's a release. It's I gotta tap into my dark side and I get to. I get to go wild. Then excited to do that. I'm trying to remember. Maybe you can shed some light on this. I feel like this I guess rivalry has been going off and on for a while between you. Two guys and I'm not sure if started before your last fighter after, but do you remember how this all? SORTA got started between the two because. I think when I was training with cowboy. When he thought cowboy. I remember us like off. Mickey aw like something like that. Then I was looking to fight too, so I was like. Fuck, my Perry. Let's let's do it. Let's let's fight is last year. so you know He. He's been been been on my radar, but. Yeah now it's happening and not you know I'm just I'm just happy. I'm excited. I can't wait. Have you talked to cowboy all because I know, he had success against Mike. Perry got the submission win early. Have you talked to cowboy about this fight all? Really you know I was I was there in in the preparation and You know. Cowboys submitted them in the I. I didn't think there was much. You know I what I learned from that just you know. He took cowboy down so I'll be ready. It's the longest stretch of your career. Without a fight I didn't realize that until like a couple of hours ago, but by the time you step into the octagon, it's going to be almost a year between fights for you and this. Obviously, there's a lot of time to grow and improve in ten eleven months, but it's been kind of weird for you, not having a fight and almost a year. It's been. I'd say not really like I didn't even realize it was. It's been a long either, but. You know I've just I've. I've had so much time like because I did have like fights in between never I was expecting to have fights so I was ready metals mentally ready and physically look. I'm doing all the right things I've been doing all the right things. Quarantine in slow me down at all. You know I'm I'm just excited I'm excited to show all the Shit I've been working on all all my hard work. You know I'm excited. Put that on the split. Short handled the the quarantine workouts and stuff like that I'm not sure what the restrictions were like in in your area, but. I I saw some some some videos training on golf, courses and stuff and trying to get work in however you can. But how have you been able to to really sort of deal with the quarantine restrictions and all to get ready for this fight or any fight? All in the beginning, it was it was tough because there's all known as really sure. You know some people were taking. It's super serious. Some people were like ads I. Don't think it's that big of a deal, but I was. On some guys that I trusted that I knew. I was only going to see. My people. Who Live. Live me. They're always people live with them, and then we. You know, go and train and we'd be real. Careful enhanced hand. And do all that crap to shower or whatever but. You Know I. I just stop me, I I was able to. There's always something you can work. On is a beautiful thing in this sport. So. Nothing is stopping me from runnin nothing to stop me from. Like that type stuff so? I just kept pushing and kept getting better every day as well as I could, and you know I I, didn't I didn't feel like I was a limited release by any means. It's interesting with this match matchup to kind of story to get here because you and I have talked so many times over the years, and I know that at least early on when when we were having our conversations, and probably like throughout the first couple of years Mike Perez. Guy. You enjoyed watching. You've been a Mike Perry fan so is kind of surreal at the end of the day that a guy that you've watched and we're a fan of it's become. This guy's GonNa call event next weekend. I say yes and no. I would say so surreal because I'm sure. Like. He was on my radars probably on his, so although yet. ADV respect. For an Enema Fan. You know I I've always known you know we're we're. We're going to have to fight so. You know I've been I've been ready and. I'm super ready. Now Mike did an interview recently with another website, and he said he doesn't eat coaches and his coronary, just GonNa, have his girlfriend, maybe like one of her friends and I remember talking to Michael. After he beat Diego Sanchez, and when he found the Diego is only going to have the one coach in his corner. It's a kind of affected his approach, a little bit closer to fight like a jumped up the pressure because he didn't want to be the guy that lost to a guy that only had the one coach in his quarter, especially a coach. You really well known in the MA space have. You heard that interview or seeing that interview, and does that play a factor in this fight in preparation for you at all? No. It. Doesn't I because? SHUTDOWN SURF bargain I just you know I. It's it's I want to win more than anything. Anyway. You know what I mean so. That's not gonNA that doesn't change. Anything not really changes. It's all it's all the same stuff If. That's something he's doing i. Probably detriments to him, but you know I'm going. GonNa have all my coaches and I'm going to be doing my thing. Do you like yourself. Consider this fight personal. Does this one have that personal feel with everything that's been said, or is this just another five for you mentioned fighting his release. You get to tap into the dark side. Is this just another for you? Yeah Yeah. It's. It's it's at the same time you know fighting personal. It's the only fight. It's it's it's you know I'm not seeing. Pass the twenty seven. Twenty seven. That's my calendar ends. We you know we go on figure so bad after that, so I'm totally committed totally. Prepared and everything, bright and You know the twenty seven is going to be my day. And, of course, when you beat a guy like Perry, we're not looking totally past that, but you have to be thinking about. It comes opportunity because we've seen what it's done for guys like. Jeff Neal and for Sunday Luca. The risk reward factor is a huge part of the fight game, and this fight checks off all the boxes is not yeah. Absolutely no, it's. It WH- Dana. Set you eat what you kill. You know. Big names make bigger trophies so I'm looking to get a nice. A nice nasal notch on my belt. Excited for the empty arena, aspect of all of this like I'm sure there's GonNa. Be Some chatter between Mike. I'm sure I. Don't know if you're going to be talking to him, but you know keeps the anime Feo but it's more like primal atmosphere with the empty Irene, because it's just the two of you guys a referee and your coaches on the outside and add some different layers to it. Does that excite you fighting in an empty arena? It does I like it I'm excited for that. I'm excited for the. I'm excited for that. I think It's because we we. We train every day without without crowds, so he's just to be more like you know what I do every day and I'll just be able to tap tap into my bestself. Plan next week and big spot back on the main card back in the event lot. How do you see this all going down a couple of weeks I've finished Mike Perry. Finished, up. You know I got I have more ways to win him. I can knock. Him On. One of those are GonNa Happen. Come more things I want your take on to kind of loosen things up a little bit one. I'm actually pretty embarrassed to say because I haven't had the time to it. The attention that it truly deserves but. Once, you think of the last dance. Admittedly I've watched a single second of it, and it makes me very upset. Making it really does. Men Is Great. You should get on that. You should totally watch It's great I I I watched it I you know I didn't a second anything I thought I. Miss I! REWOUND! Re watched. I'd watch they. It was it was it was brilliant. I thought it was awesome. I listen to the the thirty for thirty podcasts which Jalen and Jacoby I could not get enough of the last dance love. You should watch Larry Bird in IT, yeah! Absolutely. Absurd, not a lot, but there's there's enough Larry. That's good. Yeah, 'cause I was thrown off by because when it first started airing I was told that it was gonna be a flicks like the next day God I can't watch live. Watch netflix and it turned out. That wasn't the case in the United States Netflix's in Canada and everywhere else in the world so throughout my whole schedule. It's it's on the ESPN APP. Right now, right? Yeah, start the start that they. Love. Love I'll tell also. All right so I'm definitely getting on that this week and the next time we talk after you fight where we're GonNa talk about the last dance, maybe solely but. Also I'm a big wrestling mark from back in the day since we can't get beer ship to Massachusetts. I saw you got to partake in a few broken skull as the the St Boston beer. Can we get a mickey? Gov Brewer Review of the broken skull? I loved it. I thought it was great. I thought it was I thought it was awesome. It's like some Ip as a little, too like kind of bitter. They can be but this light. It was like it was like a lighter lighter IPA which I thought was like perfect. got that full flavor, but not not overwhelming and WHO's you know? Stone goes one of my childhood heroes, who's not a fan of Stone Cold Steve Austin everything about duties. Tell are working son of a bitch and thought I am I'm happy to support absolutely so I need a drink some broken scala PA while I watch the last dance but go. You got some fun stuff coming up. So this is why. I talked to you. Because you iron out my schedule from you for the next week or Busy. How how's everything going at the soup kitchen? By the way we talked a lot about that the last time you were on both things slowly starting to come back from Cova. Didn't you know we still have a ways to go? How things been going over there? Since you and your family are very much attached? to Saint Ann's. A Newark is good man. It's good. It's you know We've been able to facilitate meals all through the the quarantine all through this whole Kovin, situation. And I think soon. Everyone's GonNa be able to resume back in the. In the dining hall in the kitchen, so be good, but for now you know we still go to go lunches and stuff. My Mom's been hustling. getting people fed. Take Take Care of people. That's Great Man Oh. Someone just shot me this link. apparently apparently Darren, till created a website called Mike Perez of bomb dot com, and it's like just pictures of him like with messed up faces from fights, and it says like here's your contributors, and it's like five pictures of Darren. Till with like substitute faces on other people's bodies, and if you click on it, it goes to a youtube video of Mike. Perry getting knocked out in boxing. Have you seen this yet? Take Yetlis. That's funny. Funny Guy. He is he is. He likes the ball. He likes the ball guy, so maybe some shine one day, but. With with the soup kitchen, think man like I I know you don't do it for the props, but I'm GonNa give it to you anyways. I I love that. These are great stories and. Some positivity in this world that really needs it and I'm really looking forward to this next fight against Mike Perry maybe you. Maybe when it's over, you guys can enjoy a broken skull. Ip or two after. All. The rivalry to rest there you go more ways than. Yeah I appreciate. You give me props for the soup. The southbound is always say I'd be like a person. If I didn't give back, there'd be like. Does a whole leg a few? You feel like Ernie will listen. You gotta like you know. Like any type of like sadness have a whole go. Go give back in your. You know your fill that up and you'll you'll. You'll get filled up with humbleness. Gratitude all that good stuff. Absolutely, yeah, you guy Jim. Miller's finds weakening its Roosevelt Roberts when you think about that. Yeah. I gotTA CHECK OUT Roosevelt. Roberts I don't know much about him. But my boy eljay Always helping me out was helped Jim out of this week so. We expect gyms. Duty always does. Brings a tough fight January now looking forward to that looking forty or fight as well all the best training men safe travels to Vegas and all the best you on the twenty seventh to talk to you as always. Thanks Mike always great to talk to you looking forward talking against him, brother had we'll talk the last dance. Yes, sir. Really is true I haven't watched. One, second of the last dance listen. I just haven't had. Any time to watch full episodes, and that's to me and you could talk about this on the comments if you want if you watch it, but it's not like a show I can watch like fifteen minutes here and go back and Watch fifteen minutes ago. Take me like two years to watch the documentary like I want to be able to sit down and watch like one episode at a time and get through it. That's how I WANNA. Do it I just haven't had the time to do so. I really want to watch it and big. Thanks to Mickey Golf for give me some insight on and fire me up to do so really interesting. Five Mike Perry coming up next week. In the CO main events and other inching fight coming up on July fifteenth, another Komen Event Fight Island Pedro Munoz will officially welcome our next guest to the Bantamweight Division the former. Lightweight champion of the World Frankie Edgar. I back on the show is Frankie Edgar. WHO MAKES HIS BANTAMWEIGHT DEBUT ON FIGHT? Island. Now something has changed in the last couple of hours supposed to take place. July eleventh UFC two fifty one, but now it's taking place four days later on July fifteenth. In the Komen event could have the answer back on the show without the quarantine beard. I can't believe it. How are you man? Yeah. I'm Alan. Summertime to itchy will grow back into winter. When when did you shave it off? Last Friday. Wow, okay, so you must be feeling like ten pounds lighter right now. Feels good feels good. My daughter was To look at me so teenagers. Down there you go, I'll take that as well lot to discuss her first off pushing this fight back a few days at the end of the day. It's probably not the big deal because you get a few extra days to get the way down and get a couple of extra days to sharpen up but co main event. You get a nice little spot here you go with this. I'm cool. Man I just WanNa. Get back in there. I think Coleman events. Perfect spot, you know. I thought it was on the Big Cardi Eleventh Fifteenth is fine and Yeah I'm excited. Excited out there. You know totally in fall and we're GONNA. Get out there. Real soon. In back to Abu Dhabi, the place where you just celebrated your tenth anniversary becoming a champions pretty interesting spot to host the next chapter of your career kind of surreal right. Yeah I'm excited. Go back to Abu. Dhabi brings everything back full circle ten years ago of the titled Air. It's going to bring back some good memories and you know positive positive vibes to go into this fight. Be Honest Frankie when you heard about this mystical fight island, and the shirts are coming out and it made. Everyone thinks it's going to be like old school. Bo Dogfights with a Cajun a beach and Tiki torches, and then it's Abu Dhabi. Was this a letdown for you? It's bittersweet. I guess I thought it was GONNA be in the Caribbean, or SOM-, a little bit closer to the east, coast, but the fact they get to go back where where my title is going to be cool. Yeah. It's a good trade before. Get into the match up itself. I want to go back a couple of weeks to UFC two fifty. Because Cody Garbrandt returns in a big way knocks out, feel the sun sow, and he looked fantastic against the guy that many fighters over the years haven't been able to look fantastic against, and he gave you a lot of shine for your help working with him, being his teammate along with the rest of your coaches. What a what a cool moment! That must have been for you to watch cody. Go out there and perform the way that he did. Yeah absolutely man. Cody was here for quite a bit. We trained got close though over the past couple weeks months and It was great to see him back to. You know in the win column and he's A. He's very very talented kid and you know obviously he's a champion already, so we know we know is ability and I'm excited for future for. Your timing jumping into vision this division. It just couldn't be any better. One thirty five is hotter than it's ever been gone. Although getting ready to fight for the title Algebra, Sterling shut a huge win over Corey San Hagen. Cody's performance still guys like crews and favor. We got guys like Sean o'malley climbing the ranks divisions on fire Frankie. This is just perfect timing to to drop down to thirty. Five is a not. No it is. This is definitely a fun division right now. A lot of good guys were good old guy in there too, now and. Yeah I always said you know. You don't WanNa down to forty five. I'm like dude. Thirty five to get tough. All these classes are going to get tough over two years I. This is the nature of sport. We're getting deeper deeper in every way class. Do? You think Henry's who does really done I. Don't think he's done, but you done. I mean well. He gave up the belt. So do I think he's done forever. I don't think he's a competitor. Someone that's achieved such high. High achievements throughout his whole career. Walk away at as young as he is, but you never know. Let's talk about you. Frankie in this matchup, 'cause you wanted a big fight moving down to thirty five Munos as tough as they come at one thirty five, or are you happy with? This? Did seeing Munoz's name on the other side of that degree agreement. Give you the fields that you're hoping for. Yeah what anybody in the top ten I think would have done that for me, you know. I'm not very particular. Who WanNa fight US champion You know he's been calling me out. Is the city wants to fight me respectfully and whatnot, but you know it just made sense. He wants to fight me. Get his wish and. And we'll build get down You know a on the fifteenth, so he's a tough guy. He's you know a lot of good guys He's dangerous opponent and it's exactly what I want to face at Bantamweight Right now. He's got a NOCCO. Win Over Cody Garbrandt so sort of being a team guy as you are. Is there part of you? That looks at this as a way to to get one back for him as well. I'm not really a revenge guy, but. I guess it would be nice to get get it done for him. you know? I'm just to get this W for, myself. stylistically, you said like everywhere. He's got power in the feet. He's good on the ground. He has all the makings of a guy that can fight for a title one day. From like the XS and Os standpoint of this house like it. It you know we're. We're similar guys. He comes forward. I, come forward. You know he's got very good jokes and Shitsu positions stuff, so you're not going to be aware of that, but. You know I feel good with this fight I'm going to have a May. Even have the reach. Originally my career. How's The house? Without the beard I'm sure the wait is has dropped dramatically. But I know we're about a month or so away from this fight, but how you look and right now getting down there. Yeah, I'm right on my descent. Plan right right need to be Everything's been going really good I. Mean No bs I I think I feel better than I have enduring most camps and I think it has to do to the factor just putting good stuff, my body, going fifty, five, forty, five I could. I could have pizza on the weekends, and you know be a little loose with my diet and and I. I definitely noticed. My Body has been a has been helping me, so no cheat days for you these days. No cheat days then I'm being being very disciplined man. It's tough, little kids in the house but. You sort of alluded to the fact that you're not one hundred percent sure of how the structure is going to be when you get out there like I know when you fight in Vegas. The guys that are fighting this weekend. They're GONNA fly in Tuesday fight on Saturday. Fly Home Sunday. Do you have any idea how this is gonNA work. I don't man not at all I? I hear we're flying to a hub city. We're GONNA charters. Twitter, like most people so. I'm waiting to hear the details Ben. Give you some first class. Treatment on these flights head Nada. That's not a short trip man now. Definitely not I. Don't know. Maybe give me a hitch. A ride and Dana Dana Jet. That'd be Nice Oh. There you go. That's you deserve that this point you know ten years being a champion Sarah Anniversary a nice little gift from the boss. One. down. How do you make your presence felt in your return to Abu, Dhabi. Good things happen when you fight over their new weight division Tuffah game opponet Coleman event. How do you see this one plane out? Yeah I see you know. Make my introduction to the. People that I'm here to stay. I know a little longer. A tooth compared to most guys but. I still feel good. My Body still responded him up performance and training and got to put it. Put it to the canvas on July fifteenth. More things wrap up. You mentioned having little kids in the House and during this quarantine time I'm sure one of your rules at least a part time basis. I'm sure it was being a teacher. The home school data in a couple of ways at least partially, my son is done on Friday I thought I saw that school in your neck of the woods is done for the year so from one dad to another. How good is that? GonNa feel on Friday when school is over here for me? We we were very. S Weeks Oh Geez. That was. We were waiting your countdown days all of us as a family. I was. More awarded my wife was the. Disciplinary. There you go well. That's one less thing you've got to worry about now. I can't wait for school year to be over at the top. For me, just drive him to school. He's got the whole day. I got the whole day to do what I need to do, but he said right in front of me right now, so he gets bored here in, we try to do. Schoolwork is I want to do it. He doesn't want to do it at all. I wouldn't WanNa do it either. And then last thing because I remember you saying it to be the last time you were on, and you're the coast of a podcast called champion, the tramp and I I saw it's going to be a Corey Anderson and most recent show who's a phenomenal interview one of the most underrated sport, but you said you hosted the show with your good buddy Roger, matthews and I was like. Like Oh, that's pretty cool. He's got a friend named Roger Matthews. But since I don't read much from like the publications out there. I didn't realize that it was the dude from Jersey shore, and I have to say kind of going through and checking out his instagram today like the guy has been through a lot, but he looks like he's in a really great place right now. So he can certainly bring a lot to the table and what you guys are trying to accomplish, but how long have you known him for? The I've known Roger for for about fifteen years now. Who? Met Him he's originally from Maine daft Jersey a little bit later in his life and. He he's an fan. We just Kinda we. Pass through through that and used to come to class. I used to teach every became good friends over the years I'm Jay. My wife became friends so. Yeah a good guy to have on the podcast. Definitely good following and a pretty good take on all things. Yeah and then show us. Be Nice to do for you as well because you know, you could talk all day long, and that's a piece of what the show is, but to talk about things going on in the world family, giving back to the community that we sort of a nice escape from fighting and some of the negative things going on in the world and things like that right. You. We to keep it. Keep it up lifting for the most part you know, definitely talk about current events. How can you not talk about current events in today's climate so We address all types of things but. We're pretty. Pretty down to Earth, guys in We don't take ourselves too seriously, so it's It's all fun and we try to push push a positive message. Boost subscribers here. What's What's the one episode? People need to check if they're hearing about the show for the first time and they want to go, check it out. What's that like? Goto episode interview? You guys did that. That are just gonNA. Hook them forever. We had a Franky Perez who is a former teammate of mine, and also a former teammate of mind, but a former UFC fighter. He's a real big conspiracy theorist. So that's a that was a pretty fun. One talk about all these crazy conspiracies whether you believe in it or not. It's still pretty cool and fun to talk about him, so that one was a fun one. Yes Frankie perhaps due to also fellow wedding. Dj like myself has been in the past, so we kill it. Man. I'm excited to see this. By Frankie huge on fight, Allen July fifteenth made event as caterers Danny. And then we got you versus Pedro Munoz. Event that's going to be a hell of a car. Always a pleasure Frankie dykstra doing this, and all the best to you in July fifteenth man. You got to always good talking to you right? Having the answer back on the show this week. Frankie Edgar takes on Pedro Mundos in the Co main event on July fifteenth. Yas Island fight on wherever you want to call it these days, but. The main event of that card will be in the US's featherweight division I'll admit it. This one surprised me a little bit when I saw it, but it doesn't make me disliked the match up in any way in fact I like it a lot specially on paper ahead of his July fifteenth made events. Dan Gay back on the show Galvin, cater. Returned to the program. This week is a fellow new Englander. We found out earlier this week. He is back in action July fifteenth in the main event against Dan e on fight island. This one got people excited at the same time. It also caught. Some people have guards with that. Let's check in with the Boston Finisher himself Calvin Cater. How are you sir I'm good man how you doing. I'm doing great first question. I have for you. It's a continuation of our last chat. How's The knows? It's looking pretty good. I assume things are are. To forty nine, and we're getting right back after right. Yeah, yeah, why not me? I'm ready to go couldn't really be Greek ship for the fight like Oh, saying so. Now. I'm pretty much back to back to normal and big opportunity had to be here with On at six right win. Streak and say to put a stop to that fight island. Yeah, it's your second main event in the UFC getting Danny. It's great matchup like if you go on social media. After it was announced, it was praised heavily, but it was a little surprising to a lot of people because you to the top five guy, you deserve a tough guy and I know a lot of those names are being discussed to fight on other cards right now, but tell me how. How, this all came together for you Cavin, and how you reacted to see Danny gays name on the other side of that contract. Yeah, it's it's AEROB- in who's on the other side of the contract to me I. Get it like it's always better to fight up from here to compete I'm here to show on the best in the world and you've got to be able to beat guys like. If you want that clean, you know so I. I'm not going to sit on the sidelines. Man, while on my jeans or to meet events second opportunity fight island sounds proven me. Thought we were GONNA. Find an island when when we fought Florida last. Disappointed I didn't get that opportunity. And now we got one. Yeah. I was GONNA say 'cause I asked Frankie Ed your this question yesterday. Because you'll, you'll fight anywhere. In far worse places than Abu Dhabi. Throughout your career, but. When you heard that Dana White rented an island to host these international fights and you find out it's Abu, Dhabi, and yeahs island of all places, was it a let down and listen I date away all the credit in the world. He said I'm renting an island. All of our imaginations just went running wild. Yeah, definitely. I mean nowadays out that way. It got me thinking. It'd be nice to you know. Park blocks depending. All all the stipulations would travel right now, but it'd be nice to while I'm out and go hit to buy or maybe Lebanon or something like that. I was excited, but now from one here I. Don't know if it's right back to to Vegas, or how the particulars working out, but yeah, it's pretty cool to have not seen fight on on fight island, and and got my imagination going crazy to and all the. Other. Possibilities, that could be who you always want to buy an island, and then what better than brocade? Just. It goes. All Bow Dogfights chants. Dans Dans been on like you said a really nice run as of late six wins in a row, he's in the rankings. Obviously, this is a huge huge opportunity for him and in a weird way. I feel like it kind of puts all the pressure on you, Cowan. Every fight has pressure. They're all important, but in this case have lies the crown. My man doesn't. Want this pressure. I want to be in big moment of trees. It's GonNa take a worthy adversary like day to take a big name and. And that's what makes it funny so so you gotta be able to take on ago six which? Put them out starring you go to the next guy and break all his. You just gotTa. Take souls in this game and. I have an opportunity to go out and and put a stop. The fight win streak gives most for people to be excited about in tune in next time to just just keep snowball and this thing. How big get it. We don't have to talk specifics or particulars, but I assume that. You're being taken care of pretty well. Considering the circumstances spot on the car travel, etc, you know we we renegotiate so I'm happy with that and we got six Mickey'll now. I want to say so pretty cool opportunity, but. You guys have already fought right in. Fat You factor what I got paid for those ones it's like. TO FIGHT DOWN IN A. Get a step up and pays nice, but Danny Gays are hungry guy. You could see in the way he fights and. He asked the big names, and now he's got in front of him so. See what's up. So. You ask for these guys asked for it and then when it comes. Like. I returned anybody on yet in Over wanted to get it like I said whether it's on the way up or or. When I get to the top, and they're trying to climb. Either Way Maria. Take on anybody and everybody. On the spot here Calvin a did you watch Dan's last fight with that's Simba Boza and B.. If so, how did you score it because there aren't a lot of people who scored for Dan like? If you look at a I, don't know if you're familiar with enemy decisions, it's where like media members all go on twitter, and they score the fight, and they sort of put it all together out of the eighteen media members. Sixteen of them scored a for Edson. Barboza House A. What did you think of that? It was very close I have to watch it again and chalk up connection with bad and But As far as He's always had with the last six guys. You know it's. It's close when he got on the MIC, call me out. My boys had a laugh at that. They think it's a good checkpoint. We start getting called out, but you know. At the end of day I don't know if there's such such they you can call people out in respect way, but still like. Now! We're GONNA fight fight refunds after fight, but as far as I'm concerned right now. Aside from me. Asking I WANNA do. Anything. Any any respect. The car to shaping up pretty nicely as well I mean. We Got Edgar Moon in the KOMEDA bent spot, but Yeah. It's pretty solid. They moved them from July eleven to the CO main event of this card to to sort of build this thing up a little bit, but after that fight happens, it's you and Danny Gate. One hundred forty five pounds, Patriots Mentality, no Colin shots, but outside of just getting your hand raise. What's what's the goal on July fifteenth? Going I to win impressively. However many rounds it takes. A had a big opportunity in Russia, being the main event. And Fell ran out of time. Lifetime will be an issue this one. It's more about The job done so for me. It's No big opportunity to get a win as a main event. That's still a good little checkpoint. I WanNa get to and. Negates a perfect appoint to add that up to with yo