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"laura ramirez" Discussed on en(gender)ed
"And finally episode one. Oh, eight feminism in. In the age of Covid Nineteen Conference on domestic violence, you know, let's start with the common thread that connects all of these episodes, which is the gendered impact on cove it. We talked about this in the trailer episode before the series where we explored that women are GonNa be disproportionately impacted that women were more likely to be represented on the frontlines is. is essential workers as low income workers and that Cova? An unemployment was gonNA. Disproportionately impact them childcare, but then these episodes really I think have a common lens of the gender impact, being negative and the negative impact, being one I would characterize as violence either physical violence, emotional, violence, psychological violence or economic violence. Let's start from that perspective. Has Anything surprised you? I feel bad. These episodes have. A lot to the conversation. There's many things that I didn't consider before. I didn't consider for example Laura Ramirez conversation about prostitution in how it could have its potential effect on that a mean. When we're talking about feminism effects, almost every single aspect of our lives, and so it it's pretty hard to anticipate so many different factors. I'm glad you brought up Laura Ramirez. She's a an amazing activist and ally in this work. And I was so honored to be able to speak with her, so we talked about prostitution and pornography and Cova impact on sex, trafficking and prostitution. I'm curious. Did you know anything about the debate? Within the feminist community around prostitution, those who support the equality or the Nordic model versus those who are trying to decriminalize both the selling and the purchasing of prostitution. Were you aware of this dichotomy this debate? There were a lot of things that I wasn't aware of and it took me. It took me a while for me to understand a lot of these things so like when I listen to her I finally was able to put a couple of things together I do remember that before. I understood the argument of decriminalizing prostitution in order to protect the women who are victims of it, and it made sense to me at the time, but then when I looked more into it, and with the addition of what Laura was saying and I was able to understand that both of equality model wants to do the same thing which is to protect victims and we. We don't want to even worse situation, so one of the things that really stood out to me is Laura mentioned is that we wanna make sure that we understand that these are crimes that are happening to women, right or friends that are happening to these victims, and it's not something that we should allow to happen to sort of help. The perpetrators in sex trafficking rice. We don't WanNa be helping the the pimps and take away accountability instead of WanNa, make sure we put a light on the abuses and be able to prosecute them, and not not let any of these perpetrators potentially use this to their advantage and to extend their their power. I really appreciate that Laura was able to make it very clear in her language, characterizing the differences between those who want to make prostitution..
"laura ramirez" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio
"It not on my watch dot com to learn more there was a violent confrontation when a group protesting the resume demolition of the old Crawford power plant on Chicago's southwest side decided to block traffic today about three dozen protesters walked road here outside the demolition site blocking traffic a truck driver hopped out of his cabin in front of them he pointed to push through the group that included small children shouting shame on push the woman to the ground in front of her two kids and then punched a man in the face activist Laura Ramirez couldn't believe what she was seeing you're trying to protect them so that they can bring it when she gets we try to punch in the face that was about the truck driver the thirty sixth street police showed up the protesters off the road they're angry the demolition is continuing after the botched implosion of the four hundred foot smokestack in April that said Dustin white area in little village Mike Krauser newsradio five point nine FM and you can see video of part of the confrontation on our Facebook page the old post office owner plans to bring live music and other cultural events in and around and possibly even on top of the big building downtown along the river the developer has formed a partnership with sixteen on center to create a broader old post office district in the fast changing southwest corner of the loop according to the Tribune a plan to bring food drinks and entertainment to the two point eight million square foot complex which is a late stage in the late stages of an eight hundred.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio
"Not become vigilante is if they see trouble in their communities the mayor wants people to call nine one one not to take matters into their own hands we're not allowing anyone to take up arms and take matters into their own hands I said this I think every single day this week there have been reports of a vigilante group patrolling the bridge port and armor square neighborhoods the other night the group was made up of mostly white men informed after looting and vandalism started happening after some peaceful protests around the city it is absolutely not appropriate for people to take up arms bats pipes whatever is controlling neighborhoods we've seen that in which tragic results Bernie to for it newsradio one oh five point nine FM there was a violent confrontation this morning when a group protesting the resume demolition of the old Crawford power plant on the southwest side blocked traffic about three dozen protesters walked on road here outside the demolition site blocking traffic truck driver hopped out of his cabin in front of them he pointed to push through the group that included small children shouting shame on push the woman to the ground in front of her two kids and then punched a man in the face activist Laura Ramirez couldn't believe what she was seeing thank you very much we try to punch in the face that was about the truck driver the thirty sixth street police showed up a short time later and moved the protesters they're angry the demolition is continuing after the botched implosion of the four hundred.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio
"Oh five point nine FM and WBBM newsradio dot com WBBM news time ten oh five finally Friday a busy one thanks so much for being with us and I'm Cisco koto in Chicago land we have sunshine and very warm and humid there is a chance for a little rain later on in the day as we head to a high of eighty eight degrees a very pleasant weekend is on tap right now it's eighty degrees will tell you all about that weekend in your complete accu weather five day forecast that comes your way at ten fifteen our top local story on news radio W. B. B. M. there was a violent confrontation this morning when a group protesting their resume demolition of the old Crawford power plant on the southwest side blocked traffic W. B. B. M. as Mike Krauser was there three dozen protesters walked on the road here outside the demolition site blocking traffic by truck driver hopped out of his cabin in front of them he pointed to push through the group that included small children shouting shame on push the woman to the ground in front of her two kids and then punched a man in the face activist Laura Ramirez couldn't believe what she was seeing thank you very much we try to punch in the face the truck driver turned thirty six street police showed up the protesters off the road they're angry the demolition is continuing after the botched implosion of the four hundred foot tall smokestack in April that said Dustin white area in little village Mike Krauser newsradio five point nine FM you can see video of part of the confrontation on the WBBM newsradio Facebook page Lightfoot is telling people there's no need to have vigilante groups patrolling neighborhoods there have been reports that.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio
"They danced and chanted burned incense and marched in the name of unity activist Laura Ramirez in San Diego were critical of the mayor for closing off downtown leaving them to fend for themselves they said and of the police and they said look the other way as some Latinos said to be gang members attacked black people here into the into the west street from the from the police yeah right there were moments when they said they were black brown and white peacefully marching on twenty sixth street in little village Mike Krauser newsradio one oh five point nine FM Jaitley BBM news time eleven thirty six recently I spent time with a group of young people who are hearing impaired and deaf this is John Erikson tada and I'd like to pass on some tips on how you can reach out to people who are deaf first talk directly to the deaf person and not to the sign language interpreter second if a deaf person speaks and you don't understand don't pretend that you know what he said instead ask him to repeat his statement port right it down third be careful not to cover your face many deaf friends rely partially on lip reading in order to understand what you're saying also don't talk too fast he shouldn't even if it takes a while to converse and lastly don't yell sometimes people even yell at those of us in wheelchairs M..
"laura ramirez" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio
"Oh five point nine FM WBBM newsradio dot com WBBM news time eleven oh five on a busy Wednesday morning it's good to have you with us time Cisco koto in Chicago land we have some rain moving through and that's cooling things down a little bit but it's going to get warm again this afternoon headed up into the mid eighties right now it's sixty nine degrees will tell you all about the rest of the steamy week in your complete accu weather five day forecast that comes your way at eleven fifteen our top local story on news radio W. B. B. M. a protest March is under way in little village W. B. B. M.'s Mike Krauser joins us live with the latest L. Cisco the marchers stepped up about thirty minutes ago going through the main strip here in the little village neighborhood right up but twenty six street where all the businesses are businesses that were told to shut down yesterday afternoon for fear of of continued protests here this one is different this is a black and brown unity March according to Laura Ramirez an organizer with El Toro del pueblo they were very well okay good we have been fighting for well what is happening here in little village was when demonstrations were happening downtown and things were shut down some people moved over into this area and there were gang members who were guarding some of the store fronts here and some some of the local laws Rick residents here attacks he came into the neighborhood and so what these people are doing and added several hundred maybe five six hundred people here all marching in unity with brown and black people reporting live Mike Krauser newsradio one oh five point nine FM the southside Chicago aldermen worries some good news may be overwhelmed by the bad news is the region tries to recover from Colby nineteen and amid the looting and unrest Walmart incorporated says it will re open all of its Chicago area stores damaged and looted by protesters violent this past week and twenty first ward alderman Howard Brookins junior applauds that but he says all the grocery stores and pharmacies and more were looted in close in this neighborhood too I'm grateful that Walmart is said that they will re open the closed doors we also can't lose sight of the fact that these local and regional Haynes who already struggle in in this pandemic who could not easily turn from in person store to online presence some of those stories may not open back up he says the problems of police misconduct economic divestiture and health care all need to be addressed Greg Gilmore newsradio one oh five point nine FM WBBM news time traffic and weather together on the aids here's BO Duran we have some good news downtown access to downtown has been re opened off the expressway is lake shore drive back running once again but we have bad news if you're on the toll ways let's get right to Mr bad news with Chris hopper mill he is a mobile seventy today it got us some live wire on the southbound side of the tri state of south one hundred twenty seven looks like two right lanes are down there's a lot of smoke coming up from that speaking of fires earlier this morning we've been tracking this of the six o'clock hour northbound on three fifty five at a single unit propane delivery truck turned over just past Butterfield the back and caught fire it kind of ended up by resembling like a giant Tylenol shaped cigarette lighter against the median wall technical parts of Russian operations been keeping the cargo tank cool while controlling the flame Kool bloom to let the leaking product burn off that's the safest way to mitigate the issue three fifty five as a result block either way between Butterfield and Roosevelt northbound solid eighty eight the Butterfield reinforced off southbound is a solid pass north Roosevelt the alternates include all fifty three that's pretty messy right now and either highland.
Satire in Strange Times Week
"This week's theme is satire. In strange times. The curator is Becka James. Here's why Becca chose the sleep. She says hello is Becka. James and the theme I chose is Satire Strange Times. I chose this theme because we're living in an exceptionally strange time and satire has the power to help process. What's happening and improve humanity by criticizing. Its Bali's and foibles. It will also allow us a hearty and necessary laugh. Here are the podcasts and episodes chosen by Becca along with short descriptions of each one first up is OPR's very fatal murder podcast. The episode chosen is the first ever of their first season in case you don't follow. Pr closely that acronym stands for onion public radio. It's from the onion. Expect very ridiculous levels of satire. Podcast made me laugh out loud. It is perfect the now times that we are in the next episode comes from a podcast called a woman smile and it's called a woman smile. Stylish it's thirty minutes long. Here's the description of the show. Women's smile is a podcast. Where Pattie Harrison and Laura Ramirez talk about well but especially the gentle and kind nature of a woman smile satire. Women are not gentle or kind. The next episode comes from a radio. Play called Lindsey. And it's called one God damn name. It's a fictional retelling of the story of the making of the parent trap and it is perfect. This first episode is mysterious and serious and will make you feel weird in a good way. Next up is an episode from a podcast. Called this Branchburg episode is called. Everybody wants to see my teeth. This podcast is about the fictional town of Branchburg New Jersey. In this episode. We meet Donald Franson who has a tying business. People come into the shop to have their ties tied each morning. And then what? I'll leave you on that cliffhanger. You must listen to learn the fate of Donald and the last recommendation comes from a podcast called bubble and is called hunters in this show. We meet Morgan. Who's pretty good at killing monsters? The narrator is topic. Evanston an actor and a writer who first came to the cultural consciousness at age twelve which she started a fashion magazine named rookie. The Morgan part satire. The taty stuff Israel. Why didn't you start a fashion magazine at twelve are the podcast and episodes recommended by Becca James this week for our theme Satire Strange Times? Hopefully these episodes will make you laugh a little and take your mind off. Reality Becca does satire. Thanks herself you can find out more and follow her on twitter at record flames. That's W. R. E. C. K. A. Flames each week in our newsletter which you can find and sign up for on our website ear buds podcast collective dot org are curator's have a chance to show off something that they love a project and nonprofit anything. Here's what BECO- wants us to know about. She says if you're looking for more podcast recommendations checkout vultures coverage where I write weekly comedy wrecks and long-form reviews and features also constant listener created by podcast obsessive and writer for the Av Club's pod mass. Ben Cannon is a great place to go for even more suggestions follow along with the discussion of this week's theme by using the Hashtag satire pods. Now it's time for podcast news each week on the show. We share PODCASTS. Industry News from the inside podcasting newsletter which is written by Sky Pillsbury. Here we go. I the inside podcasting. Podcast is back for season two. This is a show hosted by skype. Pillsbury where she interviews podcast creators about their craft in this coming season. Get excited to hear from Cara Swisher of Rico Decode Nigel poor and Alan Woods of ear. Hustle Moon Faces James Kim and so many more amazing creators
"laura ramirez" Discussed on en(gender)ed
"What is the reasoning behind it? People are saying that people have a right to have a genetic family. But don't women have the right to not be guinea pigs for corporate Industry you know this. It's the question that we always see. Do Women Have Rights? You know do art to are women protected from the harms of the Industry. And when it comes to this extra when it comes to surrogacy we see. The answer is no so before the bill was passed. Wasn't there surrogacy already well. There was this. Altruistic surrogacy is a thing right and and but altruistic surrogacy is a lot different than commercial surrogacy because altruistic. Surrogacy is like you know. Let's say my friend wanted to have a baby but she was infertile and I knew how much you wanted to be a mother and I said or I'll do this for you out of the goodness of my heart because you're my best friend and I want to do this for you. That is a much different bond then a contract because the bond between a surrogate mother and intended parents under full commercial surrogacy is nothing more than ink on a pen. It's a contract and we've heard dozens of stories of women. Women of color particularly who had wealthy white intended parents and the white intended parents would use racial slurs against the mother and not pay for any of the mothers Means while she was pregnant with their surrogate child and then the mother gives birth and the child is yanked away from the mother. It's overall physically emotionally traumatic experience and we have just sanctioned it as a market as an industry. Just go crazy. It's going to be a free for all of the industrialization of women's what about people celebrities like Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Kardashian. They've famously had surrogate children or children born through surrogacy. That wasn't there some sort of commercial transaction there. Why was that legal? I mean I don't know those cases particularly I imagine that a lot of these folks living California maybe but I mean those people sort of give an example of our surrogate parent. The surrogate parents are people with significant wealth. They have a lot of money. Surrogacy is not cheap but the money that goes into the surrogacy process is not seen by the surrogate mother. You know and the money in itself. It goes back to The issue of prostitution in a way. Because does the money itself or the sanctioning of a market where that money can even be exchanged. Does that excuse? The harms that women encounter when they're going through the surrogacy process. I mean there are stories. Two Girls Young Girls who are twenty something healthy brilliant young woman who sign up to be egg donors and you know die. Within five or ten years from unexplained cancers and we're talking about women who have never had health issues to begin with and that's because I don't know if you're familiar with the process of donation or to be a surrogate to begin with but you need to be injected with a lot of hormones so that you produce I think like up to fifteen times the number of eggs in one cycle so you a lot of times women who are going through the process. Get something that's known as Hyper Burien Syndrome. Which is deadly. You know it could be fatal. We're talking about science. That has not been researched enough for us to now pass industry-driven bills on women's health. This sounds a lot like you know when you were talking about. I I mean I. I'm aware of this bill from the support that celebrities such as Sarah Jessica Parker Have given it. But in the worst case scenario getting back to the sex trafficking conversation you know if there's no regulation at all. I can imagine how someone who's interested in child sex trafficking would want to get to create children actually then traffic them and put them into child pornography or whatever. It is to create some sort of mechanism for earning money. Yeah yeah absolutely and you know I could also see Traffickers Pimps who control women in the system of prostitution sort of offering being a surrogate as break so to speak to you know. Get off get out of prostitution in become surrogate like it's just it's a market and a lot of people are going to be entrepreneurs for lack of better words and they're going to abuse it. That's without a doubt and you know what's interesting about celebrity. You hearing this from occurred The US is one of the few countries to have full commercial surrogacy. It's been banned in so many in more. In more than most countries I think full surrogacy is banned because they recognized how harmful this is and how dangerous and how under researched this. This entire thing is and it's we're talking countries where like relatively speaking women aren't even woman woman on are still still face a lot of oppression in these countries but still their governments recognized that full surrogacy is deadly and in unacceptable but the US doesn't. It's just very strange. I think the European Union India Thailand they've all band full commercial. Surrogacy I just don't know how we got here and I think the only explanation for it is the influence of people with massive wealth and industries and unfortunately those groups run America in a lot of a lot of ways So it's just a reflection of our priorities and our priorities don't involve women's rights a lot of the what I've heard and read about why women are reluctant to leave beyond the coercion and the financial factors are the cultural ones in terms of being stigmatized. That they won't be able to enter society and some sort of have some sort of economic role that you know that they'll be able to access because of their history and so it's really interesting. How there's this dichotomy where on the one hand people are sorted legitimizing it in calling it sex work and yet. That's the same reason that people don't want to leave because they also are self sigma -tising and getting back to the bill for decriminalizing. It lacks just as much in terms of regulation as the Child Parent Safety Act. I heard because any home any domicile can be turned into a brothel and there were no restrictions around advertising so you could have advertisements on the subway or on buses that promote prostitution as a job to two girls right. And we've we've seen that we've seen the there was something that a sex worker advocacy organization here. New York had a an exhibit and they were advertising all over the set of ways. Thanks to a healthy fund from open society foundations which also fund the global sex trade. So yeah these people have access to massive wealth because there is vested interest in securing sexual access to women So people want to put their money behind it and they do and we see that saw. The same thing is going to happen with surrogacy. I believe I mean we don't. We don't even need to go very far to see that this is true. We can just look at the language of the bill and see that a literal corporation wrote this so at the end of the day. We just follow the money right. Where is the money? It's all behind the sex trade. You know it's not with survivors of prostitution. Who are talking about how harmful their buyers are. It's not talking about survivors of the sex trade who say yeah. I did this to pay rent but I wish I didn't. I wish I wish college wasn't so expensive. I wish this. I wish that I wish I could live a life. You know decently without having to be exploited by the male gaze. You know it's follow the money and you'll see it's not with us. Is there anything we can do now? That the bill has been passed to try to minimize the harm to women. Yeah I think The surrogacy issue New York is a is a massive upset. I don't think that we should just. I don't think we should give up too soon. Because the full decriminalization. Bill is still on that. That fight is still on. And I'm happy to say that. A lot of advocates with the New Yorkers for the equality model which involve direct service providers lifelong activists Lawyers you name it survivors primarily you name it. They're with us. We have put together a bill for the equality model that we are excited to introduce to the New York Senate very soon hopefully but that is what I think. We should rally around. You know. We've seen how ferocious the fight is legally especially when you have mega corporations behind it but that doesn't mean that we can't go against it and it means that we shouldn't go because you know how many suffragettes were there. How many women did it take to start the global feminist movement? Just one just a couple you know. So if we all rallied together not let something like surrogacy. Get us down. I think that we could you know. Come out of this. A Lot. Stronger and We'll set a precedent in New York if we pass the equality model here Where you know corporations will not win. Do THEY WILL BAY. May when a few battles. But they won't win. The war would definitely gonNA including those links so please share them with absolutely so Laura were at the point of our conversation where we ask every guest. The same set of questions that I've adopted from inside the actors studio call the engendered questionnaire and the first question is what is at stake in the struggle to end. Gender-based violence and oppression. What's at stake? Go the lives of our sisters. I mean I think it's that simple. When we think about Mel violence and we think about Patriarchy and oppression. We have to remember that those things are not natural with the tagline for firms organizing decolonize. Feminism because when we're when we're talking about decolonization that is removing these systems of oppression that have been imposed on our sisters. Both here and abroad. We see that things like Patriarchy are not normal. You know those things are not inherent to our existence so I think remembering where we came from is at stake. The lives of our sisters are at seek also remembering where we're going and that's to a feminist future where women are not the exception. What gives you hope. Oh Oh the same thing my sister. I think this fight is so hard. Oh my gosh I think every day we look at each other and we think we're over this But again there's a lot of us in. We are lesion but the power of money and influence is not on our side and yet we win. And how insane is that? How insane is it that a group of fifteen fierce feminist in any given state of the US with nothing but a couple of dollars in their pocket can make waves and change laws? That is what gives me hope. Because I've seen it and I intend on continue doing it and final question. What can we do? More of less of start or stop to end gender-based violence and oppression. We need to do more reading. We need to do more reading. I feel like every time I read a reactionary argument. It's something that could easily be debunked. Aw If if you just do your basic women's rights wheat reading read revolutionaries read activists read freedom fighters. Step away from buzzfeed. Read people who have done the good fight and why they're doing it because you'll get a lot of wisdom and a lot of guidance and we wouldn't be here today for if it weren't for them so we definitely need to do a lot more reading we need to do a lot more reflection At this especially goes to you. I don't know how large your mail listener audiences but this definitely goes to the men in our lives. Patriarchy has emboldened men in such a way that certain violent behaviors are inherent to their attitudes and their behaviors. And I think men needs to do a lot of self reflection you know. It's not easy but for you to be a feminist ally Because that I believe is is omen. Could be our allies to the feminist movement. It requires a lot of humbling. And that's really hard. I know we talked about pornography briefly but when it comes to that issue when it comes to the straight I think a lot of men can get on board but when my experiences the final frontier for them is pornography because we as a society have justified. Things like ethical porn or feminist porn. But if you can apply the same concepts of industry and oppression onto the street he could do the same for pornography So that is definitely what we need. More of. We need more sisterhood. You know we need more Women who are who wants to be feminists but not the fun kind. What I mean by that is a woman who adopts like one of the boys. Feminism what I call pro feminism things that viewed right into misogyny and patriarchal expectations but making it pink and therefore making feminists. We definitely need more sisterhood. And that's going to me in coming off as you know a a B word sometimes but if we don't have one another's backs than what do we have read Andrea Dworkin read Audrey and join the firm all right. Well thank you so much. Laura and I.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on en(gender)ed
"Have. I agree with you. I also think that on the one hand we need to address the systemic sexism and misogyny that shows up in our policy that keeps women from getting parody in terms of wage and building wealth equal to men to the extent that yes we can even if we were to which I hope we can pass the era the equal rights amendment and have some sort of enforcement mechanism. We still also have people saying well under capitalism everybody quote unquote prostitutes themselves to their job. In some way there's some tradeoff that were making the silliest argument there's no difference between US deciding to sell my body versus to sell my mind and worked for. Let's say you know. Whatever the military and create bombs. Yeah how do you respond to that? I mean this this is this is another example of reactionary thinking. I mean it's so first of all I personally this isn't you know. Book position that The organizations I worked for how the I personally am not a big fan of capitalism. Obviously not because it exacerbates. All of these systems of oppression. Nevertheless work even under a social system isn't inherently bad. Work is a good thing. We do need to work to produce a society that we could all live in thrive in but comparing the work of say a janitor who cleans schools so that children. The next generation of minds can learn is so different than the sex trade. Because if we if we even compare those two than we're saying that you know cleaning schools is on the same tier of importance as the male orgasm that's completely unacceptable. And yes there's always going to be exploitation under capitalism because the nature of capitalism capitalism is expletive but the jobs inherently are not expletive. Jobs are necessary but if system based on male orgasms is not necessary. That's not it's it's it's totally as silly argument with all due respect when I hear it because you have to assume that male orgasms are socially necessary. You know it just really doesn't especially considering that to To reach male orgasm a entire sector woman entire crass of women basically the prostituted class Have to be exploited that that really. It almost makes me laugh. When I hear you know we started the conversation Talking about the Cova. Nineteen Corona virus pandemic and. I know you've been really busy responding to the the industry's response to this pandemic. I read just one or two articles about it but the articles were basically in favour of people who worked in the quote unquote sex industry who wanted support and protections. Because they weren't able to work and so can tell me about some of the industry's response to this and and what you're doing as a result of it. Yeah well the interesting thing about the Kovin crisis with regards to the sex trade is that it sort of proves our point ray. A lot of folks on the other side like to say that no matter what we do. There's always going to be a demand for sex by but first of all. We argue that. That's not true. A there are several examples Whether it examples based in decolonisation where there are native tribes who don't even have a word for prostitution in their language because it didn't exist before the colonizer came or more modern examples like in. Sweden say where they passed a education campaign and now men in Sweden are more embarrassed would rather be drunk driving than buying sex because they it still abhorrent. It's the report thought to them to even by person so there are examples of that. Prove that sex buying can be deterred and cova sort of an example of that. You know men aren't going out to buy sex and a lot of people in the industry are suffering as a result of that but it also brings up the question of how does one social distance with within the sex trade. It's impossible there's no way to social distance or to keep a healthy physical barrier between you and a buyer and isn't that the program you know. Is it that an issue? It goes back to all of the health problems that we talked about previously and again. It's really unfortunate that more and more women who entered the train. The trade as a result of economic necessity are now struggling economically right. That is a massive problem. But it's a global problem that we're all facing. It's not just particular to the sex trade if anything it's proving our point about the sex trade you know we should once this is all over and once you know the dust settles we should move towards situations. Where if this ever happens again women regardless of whether they're in the sex trade or not are promised healthcare so that they can be treated if they access that if they come into contact with the virus so that they have rent rent stabilization. So that they don't have to worry about how they're going to pay the next month Things that will actually result in social stability as opposed to a male violence masked from sort of way out I understand with regard to one on one transactions in terms of prostitution but what about pornography because no one can still social distance by being a consumer of pornography and porn. Hub has certainly grown a lot. I think during this crisis In terms of offering free free premium porn and trying to update its image by by donating free mask to healthcare workers across the world. But we know that there's trafficking in the production of pornography and so you can still social distance and consume and. I don't know what the numbers are. From in terms of porn hub whether the demand has even gone up to replace the decrease in in person prostitution. Yeah that's a real issue that we're seeing especially with only fans that know if you've heard of that website right now. It's only fans if they Website that any individual can set up an account on and produce pornography for subscribers and members and all of that Yet absolutely. That's something that we're seeing. That's what happens right. That is extra AIDS response to the Kobe Crisis. But again it all feeds the same thing. It feeds male sexual access to woman. You bought a porn hub in. It's really interesting. Because porn hub. Giving out masks or porn hub like I know. They did a pain Campaign a couple of months ago about saving the planet and something like that. It's really funny when a website. That's based on submitting whatever they want which includes pornography and footage of trafficking takes on the position of like social savior. It's really sad actually Porn has been not only accused but also they've been proved proven to post bile footage of of reported cases of rape of cases of stocking of child pornography of people who were under who were confirmed to be under a traffic control. And that's because Porn. Just you can post whatever you want on that website so in reality this website should be taken down one hundred percent for facilitating crime nevertheless though when it comes to poor and yes there is a massive increase. I know that porn of Italy gave all Italian citizens like a premium membership or something like just goes to show how even in times of crisis woman and their social status. They're they continue to be subordinate. You know that's the only thing it can illustrate like y'all were all stuck inside but at least we can still consume women so that we know what to do. Once we're out it's it's really sad to watch. Actually I also read somewhere. That there's in terms of exploitation there's a Increased either search for desire for videos that include Kovic somehow where there's someone is directly infecting someone or someones I. I'm not sure exactly what it was but I just came across that very quickly and so the fantasy of deducting something. Yeah and also I mean it. Just it makes sense. I mean look at domestic violence situations right right now. Weren a time. Where women who live with their abusers cannot go to work sometimes. Work is a temporary escape for women in DVD. Situations. So that they can be away from their abusers From just from their abuser and now a lot of women and children have to be quarantined with their abusers and as we see throughout history in times of crisis male violence goes up and male violence is not exclusive to just physical violence in the home it also transfers into sexual violence and digital sexual violence and right now you know. We're still sort of in the beginning of this. I know it doesn't seem that way because time doesn't exist anymore and it seems like we've been quarantined for a year but I am afraid that as goes on you will continue to see more aggressive male behaviors and that's something that we really need to look out for and as we continue to crown toward her as the martyrs of Cova. Did we actually have to realize what harm is being done? You know if a woman is walking down the street to go to the supermarket and you know the streets are empty because nobody is outside. We're talking about situations where men who are watching that video that you just described bypassing the Coburn Riskin infecting her with Kobina. Anyway woman are in more precarious situation. Now that could easily become reality. It sounds ridiculous. But we've seen this time and time again. I mean in the Super Bowl right. The large sporting events become a hub for deviant trafficking. Why would a global crisis be any different and speaking of the Super Bowl? I just read the reason for that which I wasn't sure I wanted to confirm and apparently it's because when you have large groups of men together there's a greater likelihood of exploitation and I'm saying that because it's like it's so obvious but it's also so sad. I mean it makes a lot of sense. Doesn't it so one other thing that we need to talk about? When it comes to Cova the sex trade is discussing whether or not buying sex or going to strip clubs his even in the central service because there are reports what in in places like New Zealand. Where sex fires were going into. Strip clubs with masks on but Nurses don't have masks and stuff like that so we need to talk about what positioning that industry hasn't society and if we look at it the right way we'll see that it really shouldn't have much of a place there so before we close. There's one bill that you mentioned or for our conversation that I want to just call out because we had a previous episode in the Body Literacy series where we talked about fertility for women and it's the Child Parent Security Act and this is a New York state back in that episode. I had shared the bill and the opposition to that bill being passed and I wanted to remind listeners. With the risks are now that the bill has been passed. And if you could start with describing briefly and then the negative outcomes that you envision the is called the Child Parent Security Act. Which would I mean? There's a lot of parts to it but to make a very long story short. It would fully legalize commercial surrogacy and the devil's in the details with this right. Because first and foremost the background checks for the intended parents are little to none the residency requirement for women who are going to be intended. Surrogates is a very short time. I think six to nine months which is literally nothing and the bill. Actually the language of the bill is copy and pasted like Barbados from a surrogacy. And you could see it online. Look up the company's website. Look at the bill. The language is the same. So there's a lot of corporate interests and corporate involvement in the Child Parents Security Act but with regards to how this affects woman particularly basically New York has made it legal for for women to be Guinea Pigs. You know. That's the only way I would describe this bill What this means. Is that if anybody not even a couple because there have been stories of surrogates surrogate parents who are single parents. Living in very very low grade homes paying for a poor woman to have a child for God knows what reason what does though means. Is that any person who has an extra thousand couple thousand dollars could pay for poor woman to be injected with a host of cancer inducing hormones to be subject to this under researched but higher-risk science for what to have a baby and what is the..
"laura ramirez" Discussed on en(gender)ed
"We can brainstorm that together. I think the the terms expert is brilliant. It's politically brilliant. You know and we need We like to say prostituted people Because that's the truth Prostitution is something that happens to people. It's not a crime that somebody does. It's a crime that is done to someone prostituted people. We like to say. People Woman of colonized experience you know the sex trade has a history and legislative colonialism and slavery. So let's call it what it is. Those words are uglier than sex for her. But it's the truth. No that commercial sexual exploitation is used but it's at that sounds a little sanitized as well for me. Personally I would like to take the word sex out of it and use some freeze that includes the word slavery for slavery or coerced slavery. Something like that. I mean I agree with you. So we always say sets. Work is neither sex workers neither sex nor work because if it feels like work than it's probably not sex and if it's it's not work right so that makes a lot of sense. I personally have been work. Shopping is fiscally coerced penetration. That sounds really ugly. But it's also very long and doesn't On a tote bag as nicely as does so. I don't know how far we're going to get with that but it right. And then it doesn't cover all of the activities penetration that could coerce. Yeah and fall under that umbrella. Yeah we can workshop that together okay. So so let's talk about the the bill that was proposed in New York City last year to decriminalise prostitution and there are those who were for the bill and there are those who opposed it and the opposition favored something called the Nordic or the equality model. What is that and how does it differ from full decriminalization? So there's three kinds of legal approaches to this. Although most people only think that there are two which is decriminalization and legalization. So we oppose both those. Why do we oppose legalization? Because obviously we should never legalize the sex industry for all of the reasons that we already said. Why do we oppose the decriminalization of this ex- industry because when we decriminalize it it's it makes it a free Pearl Right? There's no legal consequence or repercussions for the actor. The bad actors of the sex trade proponents of decriminalization. Say that they prefer this model. Because it decriminalizes the folks who are engaging in the trade so folks who identify as sex workers and we agree with that notion right folks who are in the trade should not be arrested you know prostituted. People should not be arrested. Like I just said prostitution is a crime that happens to somebody as opposed to a person committing a crime. So where do we go with that so being that we agree both agree with that premise? That individuals in the trade should not be arrested. The difference between US and full decriminalization folks is that we prefer approach called the equality model so the equality model maintains that prostituted people are not arrested. But it also maintains the legal consequences for Pinson traffickers and this is important because it is an approach that seeks to reduce the market right by attacking the demand and it also provides exit strategies for people who are in the trade which time and time again we've seen when it comes to direct service providers or folks who are on the ground when they ask people. Would you be doing something else if you could? The answer is profound yes. Almost one hundred percent of the time people respond with yes because people are in the trade the majority of people who are in the trader in the trade as a result of mead as a result of precarity the Nordic model offers exit strategies health services educational services paths towards legal citizenship. So that they don't have to fear they don't have to fear being criminalised for the position that they are put in however we can't pursue a feminist future without holding. The people who do harm responsible and the people who wrong do do harm are expires. One hundred percent of the time you know. So it's not. You know a lot of people who who support the full decriminalization model say that the laws are killing people. But that's not true. The law doesn't kill people. Sex Fires Kill people. You know every time we mourn another person in the sex trade who was killed it was by affects fire every single time objectively. And that's because we can't be sure of what a fire will do once the doors closed and that's why we should never fully decriminalize because that's actually enabling harm. You know it's not harm. It's not harm reduction. The equality model is harm prevention. I was thinking when you were talking about the gendered aspects of trafficking sex trafficking and how Trans Women More More Trans Women Than Trans men are being victimized in being prostituted because they present as fem and that sounds to me. I hadn't actually thought about the demographics in terms of trans men and Trans Women. But it sounds to me that it's related to the fact that Trans men can present as men right and and so they can do things potentially in this world have access to opportunities that someone who presents as them. Whether you're a woman assist gendered woman or Trans Woman. Way May not have access to because of systemic discrimination of course and ultimately what it comes down to with regards to Trans Women in the sex trade is male entitlement. You know Men are entitled or under Patriarchy. They feel that they are entitled to Women's bodies so that that's the overwhelming trend that we see in the sex trade and it's it's really unfortunate you know because a lot of trans women who are in the trade. Say that they're in the trade you know because they don't have a housing or because they need access to health care. These are all systemic stomach problems that we shouldn't say then to Trans Women. The right of passage for you to live your wisdom bestself is to be raped by a stranger. You know we as organizers than people who want to see a feminist future which means one where women do not have to be chained and victimized by the various manifestations of Patriarchy for us to say that we are found as organizers and then also say you need to get over this hump of male violence to then be your best self. It doesn't make any sense it. It's it's not a feminist approach to condone the sex trade at all. It's it's vehemently anti-feminist feminist and I like to see. Those are pro men feminists because they're not pro woman. As per woman feminist. You would insist on Women's liberation without exception and definitely not the exception of this extra so I'm GonNa make suggestions. We're brainstorming. Have what we call them? Promo Zeke Communists and the other side pro humanity feminists I think pro with eight again pro men fake feminist and then pro humanity feminist shows of us were trying to liberate. Women are trying to liberate. All of us Arche we should write all this stuff down and since we're talking about people who are there's a huge movement as you know from your work of people who call themselves progressive whether it's people who are organizers community organizations even elected officials right some of whom sponsoring this bill for New York City. How do they reconcile in their head? What is their rationale for supporting something? Once they've heard your argument I can't imagine how they're still justification meaning there. I don't know I think I think we should ask them what their rationale is. Because once you hear the stories of survivors once you employ a global approach to the issue it so obvious you know. It's so obvious that Western individualism. Which would actually give validation to the concept of self empowerment over collective harm of women as a socio. Political class is behind a lot of the justifications. For their argument you know again. It goes back to The harm that was done in the seventies with coining the term sex work which a lot of people grew up on right here in that term and now can only visualize it through a Labor perspective. That that's really really hard. You know over in Spain. I think last year they were sent to a so-called sex union tried to be established like can you imagine a union where Strip club owners and pimps are in your union. Union is the boss in. That doesn't make any sense. You know and I I mean I also have that question Terry seriously do. I don't know how they can rationalize it. I think a lot of it is reactionary politics as opposed to employing a global lens. Also a macro lens to the issue. Because it's easier to do that. It's easier to be a reactionary. It's easier to half band-aid solutions. That mass harm reduction instead of doing a bigger analysis of the issues and that also requires a lot of self reflection too because the thing about Patriarchy and misogyny is that the systems that are so insidious that they infect our line of thinking to same goes for capitalism. You know all of these systems have infected us and that's how we been think it's exemplified in the term sex work in itself that we could even accept you know an economic exchange for rape as a valid labor movement. Mlive hard you know. It's really hard and I don't know if you knew this but a lot of people would rather take the easy way out when it comes to these things so I really don't know the answer that I know why it happens. I don't I still don't know how we can you. It it it's the most regressive progressivism there is so what about. Let's look at the actual people who are being prostituted they experience. They're saying that if you don't allow me to do my job. If you impact the demand for my job I will be at risk of homelessness and negative. Health outcomes and this is my only way of survival. How do you respond to that? There's a couple of things that you touched upon. Because you know it's that's how it is with the issue prostitution. It's a multifaceted issue. And the first thing you mentioned was was health right. That's interesting because the health effects of prostitution are so widely recorded short and long-term but for some reason we haven't recognized it as a global health crisis right. The immediate health consequences of the sex trade versus long term consequences include a body depression. Ptsd A lot of women who are in the sex trade actually have PTSD that mirror. That of combat veterans woman who are infertile as a result of the physical. Harm that the sex acts day after day after day have done to them. You know when we read this laundry list of side effects. It's so clear that position itself is a is a health crisis so I can't imagine somebody trying to defend prostitution through Healthcare Lens in terms of homelessness that is an issue that disproportionately affects women and children right especially when we see high rates of single mothers who are forced into the trade. That's a massive problem and that is why Through the equality model we would have exit strategies in pathways towards getting healthcare getting housing getting education because we are not again and by we. I mean abolitionist. Feminists were against the sex trade so that women can stop getting money this way. And then you're been you're on your own you know. This is what I mean by. We have to look at it as a macro issue. Because that's exactly what it is you know. We don't want women impositions vulnerability right but the sex trade itself is also form of violence and we shouldn't deter vulnerability using violence. It just doesn't make any sense so in terms of homelessness. I do think that we need to organize for for rent. I mean if you ask me personally. I think that housing should be free. Housing is a human right. Those are the things that we should be organizing around Ray. As opposed to organized thing for this extra thing is if we justify one woman in the sex trade so that she can pay her rent then we justify every woman being in the sex trade then every single woman has a dollar sign on her and that furthering the problem that.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on en(gender)ed
"Welcome to engendered. The show that features stories that explore the systems practices and policies that enable gender based violence and oppression and the solutions to end it. We used gender as a lens to understand power and oppression teach feminism and decolonize hearts and minds one story at a time and gender sponsored by Candu. It spelled K. A. N. D. U. I T. and I'm your host Terry. Un on this episode of the engendered. Podcast our guest is Laura Ramirez the program coordinator at Coalition Against Trafficking in women the First International Non Governmental Organization working to oppose human trafficking prostitution and other forms of commercial sexual exploitation. She's also an organizer with the firm. A National Organization of women engaged in transnational feminist anti imperialist activism and dedicated to the fight against oppression. In all its forms Laura speaks to us today about the ways in which healthcare policy in particular covert nineteen or the corona virus acutely impacts women human sex trafficking prostitution and pornography. We will explore the ways in which the global demand for prostitution puts women and girls particularly high risk of harm and exacerbates systemic gender disparities. In Income Wealth Mobility and health outcomes. Welcome Laura Hey Terry how are you? I'm okay this is I think we're in what week. Three of the lockdown in New York City. Yes it time is. It doesn't exist anymore so I don't really know but I think that sounds about right thankfully you and I met. Before the lockdown yes thankfully and now we have things to do to keep us busy because you're painting sanity as is a struggle. That's for sure so you work for the Coalition Against Trafficking in women C. A. T. W. And you also are a member of a firm is how you pronounce it. He acts affirm new. I'm part of OUR NEW YORK. Chapter the coalition against have gained women. It's the first international non governmental organization to Actually Combat Prostitution Commercial Sexual Exploitation. And how that looks like for women all over the world and the firm is a feminist organization. We focus on a lot of different issues especially since the experience of women. Worldwide aren't confined to one thing right. Women's oppression manifest differently in different places through different types of oppression whether it's economic systems militarism but one of our issues via our purple rose campaign is the sex trade and it has a lot to do with the experiences of migrant women and the history of women in in the US as a result of US coney was them in US imperialism. So it's just an example of how everything is a feminist issue though it's not just the sex trade is it affirms only issue but it is one of our largest issues for sure in particular within the sex trade sex trafficking in human trafficking. Can you talk about what the differences I think? A good definition or human trafficking is the definition that's outlined under the Palumbo Protocol which is a UN resolution specifically on human trafficking And when it comes to sex trafficking specifically what is important to know in the Palermo protocol definition is that trafficking does not necessarily need to involve movement right so a lot of people watch. I don't watch taken or something. And they think that the way that sex trafficking looks is getting abducted off the street and being thrown into a van. And then you're chained to a radiator But that's not what it looks like especially here in the United States when it comes to domestic trafficking a lot of the Times women are a woman because over ninety percent of women that are involved in human trafficking are involved for the purposes of sexual exploitation but There are other folks in the trade as well. Obviously it's an. It's an industry that preys on vulnerability but a lot of the people inside of the sex trade. Have the liberty to like you know. Go shopping or something. But it's about the economic mental emotional and ends overall control that traffickers pimps have on the individual right. So it's not this chains who irradiators situation. And that's really what we need to demystify. When it comes to trafficking altogether I was at an event. I think it was sometime last summer. And there were people of different genders talking about how they were victims of sex trafficking and both of them actually The two survivors in the group specifically talked about how they were victims within a relationship. So they're pimp. Was there a partner who coerce them to To prostitute at them? So so is. Is that what you mean? By how you don't need movement to be a victim of sex trafficking. Yes so what I mean specifically by. You don't need movement is you don't need to be picked up from point. A. AND MOVED TO POINT B. Right you could be trafficked by the you could be legally traffic in your own home And a lot of people will actually try to argue against this legal definition. It's folks that will probably get into this a little bit later folks who talk about being in the trade willingly but the reason. This definition is important is because it really. It really illustrates how. It's a trade altogether you know. It's not like a person is willingly sex. Traffic's like the examples you just gave when it came to people who were coerced by a significant other. A lot of those have to do with economic control. Ray Or Emotional control you know some sort of like a Stockholm Syndrome situation. You know we work with a survivor here in Queens. Actually who? She was picked out by a loverboy situation. Which is really common at the age of. I think like fourteen because you know she. She was raised by a single mother. She was raised in poverty. She didn't have the economic or emotional support and this pimp came in and filled that void thus creating a dependency relationship. That's you know very easily which is very easily exploited. So yeah it's all too common in. That doesn't necessarily need to involve crossing a border at all and does trafficking also necessarily include some sort of financial transaction so for example if my significant other forced me to have sex with other people under threat of violence or some other threat. But he wasn't getting any money or he wasn't receiving any money with that soapy considered sex trafficking. They're crying of of sex trafficking is the the rape of the individual right so When it when push comes to shove ultimately one cannot consent to their own exploitation nor can they consent to being raped by a stranger right. I think you bring up a really interesting question because it brings up the question of money equaling consent sort of thing so what you described is really interesting because if you take money out of the equation in lot of these circumstances it looks like rape right if you if a person is being forced to be physically penetrated by a stranger that they don't know that they don't want to be involved with everybody would call that rape. So why is it that once we throw twenty dollars on top of it? It's all of a sudden a trade and there's a political conversation attached to it was it autonomy. Wasn't not know if you take those twenty dollars away. It's very clearly a rape situation. And that's what sex trafficking is about. That's what the crime of folks petition is. So I want to get back to what you mentioned earlier. Which is the statistics around global sex trafficking and how sex trafficking victims globally ninety percent of them? Are Women. And Girls so clearly. This is a gendered problem like many others that you and I are dealing with and yet there's a term that neither of us really like name cotton namely quote unquote sex work that is being used to define this problem and so talk about what that term means to you. Yeah so there's two things that you mentioned that I sort of WanNa talk about. The first is how this is a gendered crime rate. This is one hundred percent agenda crime because the sex trade exists as a result of male entitlement male sexual entitlement to female bodies and the other thing is when it comes to the Trans community the sort of individuals who are in the trade. We see our Trans Woman. You know so it is a gendered crime. It's a gendered crime of Male entitlement to women and bodies right so this is very it's such a binary it's very very clear on so that's the first thing I would say because the Trans Community is also unfortunately overrepresented in the sex trade and unfortunately a lot of folks like you who you mentioned who describe themselves as sex workers to Novara segue into that conversation. Use the term sex work which was politically created to sanitize the system of exploitation. And they're using this to sort of give credence to the fact that Trans Women are over represented in the trade but this this can't be the case. You know the fact that Trans Women are over represented in this extra doesn't mean that this extreme is inherent to translations existence. It means that we all obviously have a social problem. Where economic political and social systems are failing people who have vulnerabilities and as a result of this have to end up in the trade so This the term sex trade in itself was created back in the seventies like I said to sanitize the industry to politically position it as a form of work so that people can talk about it through the Labor Rights Lens and that's particularly problematic because it shifts the conversation entirely What's the sex where even mean right when when they talk about sex work? That could be a pimp that could be a trafficker that could be a person who does hamming who never has students harass with expire person. Who does stripping which we know strip clubs are a Popular Avenue? Four funneling women into prostitution. So what does that even need? You know the the term sex work is really muddy and when we talk about the sex trade of course. We're talking about the global multi billion dollar industry that exists to serve male sexual entitlement but prostitution specifically That's what we're talking about. We're not talking about people who sell nukes on Patriots or something like that. Of course those things are related. Because they're serving the same. The same premise. That is male sexual entitlement. But selling your news on the Internet is a whole lot different than having to physically see. Smell touch sex fire. And that's that's what makes the term really dangerous. That's why we have to be really specific in what we're talking about. Refrain from using umbrella terms like sex with because ultimately people die as a result of that gross generalization. What word or phrase would you use in? Its place that.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on KCRW
"At the Santa Monica farmer's market here's Gillian Ferguson this is Gillian Ferguson with the market report it is a very wed Wednesday here in Santa Monica this week and I'm talking to Abraham and let those who is one of the chefs was brave the rain to come to the market this week Abraham is the chef de cuisine at Nora in west Hollywood on Santa Monica and Abraham I noticed you have some persimmons in your car today what are you going to be doing with them so the persimmons are going to be used on our pork chop we try to change the free seasonally where pickling them so basically putting them in a little bit of water sugar and sherry vinegar we try to keep it nice and fresh we don't like to be away from the produce we like that kind of let it speak for itself we're also putting it in a seasonal grain ball or a seasonal fruit bowl as we call it kind of the two methods right now they were using with persimmon okay so when you're talking about the pickled persimmons are they lately pickle the quick pick colors is something that takes a few weeks to prepare no it's a quick because soon as he gets into the restaurant you know we clean them up have on my serrated go and then the cuts of over the picked whatever for similar Serapis and they'll cold pickle it really quick it's other persimmons are done for the day everything's fresh we check in the next day for consistency but if they're too soft well having depression so just depends okay see one a little bit of texture on the yeah you want a little bit of texture you want a little bit of by you don't want to give anybody a mushy pickle yeah yeah that's right nothing worse than a machine tackle and so how does the the sweetness and that the sourness of the pickle sort of pair with the pork chop with the pork chop I mean think about like a peach peaches sweet but it's also slightly sour so the acidity kind of plays off with the pork chop flavor we marinated in a rose merry a little bit of chili flakes olive oil a little bit of garlic so we let them in a for awhile and it kind of plays a nice little game of like sweet savory sour try to hit all those benchmarks for the dish sounds delicious and I assume that you're using the foo you persimmons the ones that are hard yeah we're using the for you per Simmons Odyssey that high kia are going to be a little softer we're doing a couple experiments right now where were letting on just a super right so it's pretty much as soon as you open it up it's insane jelly pretty much so we're playing around with that concept right now all right well thank you so much this sounds delicious all right thank you that was Abraham limos the chef de cuisine at Nora in west Hollywood he's been telling us what to do with those for you persimmons one of the farmers who grows percent men's and brings them to the market is Laura Ramirez of JJ's loaned out our ranch many people know Laura from her almost year round avocados that she brings to the market but in the fall you have for Simmons as well how many varieties are you bringing to the market these days all my gosh well and grow a lot of different varieties but the main Fridays I bring to the market ARFU use giant to use and hi cheers which are so sweet and taste like ball and all kinds of sin in many goodness so walk us through the difference because the foo use you want to eat hard right and then the high G. as which you were just talking about you want to wait until they're almost falling apart I mean the way you sell them it's like in a Cup because if you were to sell them any other way they would just fall apart on you yeah they have to be like a water balloon are you'll hate me because your mouth a pucker up and you'll discuss me out never won a person again and you know I always say me I like to have a little cocktail now and then so I like my for Simmons with some dark rum on top and some cram freshen old so delicious and it just reminds me of thanksgiving and Christmas and its all the goodies that sound so good so do you just cut them open at the top and pour the run right over to squeeze them out in a bowl while I was doing anyway you want but I like it that way and I also like frozen frozen like a survey is really delicious that's really my favorite way to eat them and then you can have me around to you can freeze it let it defrost a little bit but the rom all read or brandy or whatever whatever cocktail you want you know I'll call as always enhances the flavor it makes it taste like a pumpkin pie I learned that trick from you years ago and every year I put a few had G. as in my freezer add me bad so Laurie you also have this other variety which we don't really see very often in the stores sometimes are called chocolate for Simmons I know you have a very limited variety but they're so unique I wonder if you could explain what a chocolate persimmon is exactly well a chocolate persimmon there's all kinds of different varieties that are a little bit darker inside there's like something called a cinnamon the Maru there's a chocolate persimmon there's a coffee cake and a lot of times you have to educate people on the inside is a little bit darker inside or they think you're selling them rotten fruit you know but once they taste it they know it's just terrific and it's it really does taste.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on News-Talk 1400 The Patriot
"Breaking news here's Sebastian Gorka what is Sunday Bates overall because dropped out of the presidential struggle both of Looney Tunes candidates for the Democrat Bob the well we do not have for entertainment problem is that a few drops out he's never going to run again we got so lucky breaking news we keep you up to date on the latest and also have the most important level of politics which is the local level that's what really happens in I give space the candidates those Americans who are choosing to pick up the challenge at the local level in today in studio so excited have Laura and I'm it as the rain who is running for the home to mill compartment district section of the Fairfax county education board Laura welcome to the studio well it's a pleasure to have it happen to me have me here today thank you very much thank you for coming your fellow immigrant like me he yeah and your naturalized in two thousand and eight yes when you're a bit of a radio professional on do you have a show yeah I have a show I'd be having to show for approximately twelve years now what's it called the Filipino radio so it's a local radio in the public's access effects and you like you said to me it's more fun than television right I love radio I themed sees wasn't seen I was little I always see my in the voice of you know you listen the voices send you my in this con some man became the voice so because I always love my mother used to always listen radio so you always dream and to have that so in two thousand and then when I become to this in a United States I was following politics I decide to have a radio show fabulous okay but you're doing something even more important now yeah why are you running for education board in Fairfax county you know I have two kids are one and I was twenty five and another one eighteen when my son they all their one went before first kind of bullet schools he was kind of easy to be helping him we have books we have notes he was wonderful Sunday my son eighteen a now in college everything is everything online this novel books there's no access and my son began to suffer a lot for support on the school my son has ADHD and I requested help and was no call for me because I never let my son fail I he said well because just because we know was another ice his son is not going to support have and you had extra help because his impersonal the jeers so my son has a B. is the IBM I wouldn't help now so I'm just so the kids failed to Bellagio something very badly so so they can have a night be classless specialists help so we have to have a real real failure yeah for you can get some help that's a that's just wrong absolutely so what a nice as me as the many other parties you have to compensate they have since education in the school so I yourself by just one so what Aidid because I'm engineer my husband engineer we tried to help him but we could then so we have to pay extra help so we pay around sixty to one hundred dollars per hour to touring ice to help us in many other parties so when my son when when we are in one of the richest the second richest county in America and you have to pay yourself up with a budget of three billion dollars with somebody just told me this and he blew my mind that the education budget Fairfax county is three billion with a B. and they have eight hundred trailer is in which students are being told that this has to be fixed he needs some believable them people made or not that is is fifty three percent are you on taxes that you property taxes go to the school board so no not having P. fifty three percent so I know a lot of people that have to put all the keys from the school for the home schooling because it between the what they teach you none of the team it's just a lot of some of these she's Laura Ramirez drain I want you to support her go to vote for Laura with that number four votes for Laura dot com she's so kind it's the day off to how lose eve it is the day of the dead I wasn't sure actually this morning and she's borders mas the old as the little miles a day of the dead and even wrote me a lovely table cloth Mexican table cloth of Laura first couple of minutes we have with you yes Laura mirrors drain what would you do differently if you're elected to the the the board of education I think the first thing we have to deal with what the partner with it another organization that outside of for for us and it will be a school we have to mentor you have to claim main thirty programs we have amazing companies around in northern Virginia what if we working with corporations when the kids see high school Congal shallow people the great I mean thirty will be an exceptional the second thing I believe is that you can go up you know this part of the he is the Asian American in the top and the bottom all the let the no son of African Americans I believe that she can America Celestino's need help on one of the things we couldn't really focuses in fine curriculums that are helping in another in another state like in Texas liking bossing people around which is the local board is trying to do to recreate social engineering to bus students around to reflect some kind of artificial ethnic diversity it's insane that they want to spend money on that what else good luck to the bar I don't understand how they want to thank the Latino some break them the move into another schools one their eyes there is a school for example in my neighbor called dog with elementary sixty five percent or that the no he said that they receive it is that the one so there is to go over my money why the Latinos kind of state I think this is the second language until this twenty one so my goal is I had to leave go back to review the budget I'm see we're out what is the money going what is the still on in the bottom when there is so much money if a located to them so budget will be something very important and the last part I really want to focus this bar in engagement is the fact that bodies are the teachers for the kids but the plans we are behind we are not transparency will have access to curriculum so we have to go back up given the print the voice of the we don't have it especially for you Megan community this is a citizen politician this is exactly what we need at all levels of government.
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"To our kids in our schools, especially the schools that we pay for the schools were supposed to be doing what we want them to do with regard to raising our children. That's why we have a school board. Members of the school board. We elect they represent us, and they are supposed to carry out our wishes, and too many times certainly in this area. I hear from parents I hear from taxpayers that they are dissatisfied with how their schools are run. How the school districts are run, and they're dissatisfied by that representation. Well, that only changes when you change the representation, so let's focus on Fairfax county right now as we have Laura Ramirez, drain. She is now a candidate for the Fairfax county school boards, specifically the hunter mil district. Thank you for joining us, Mr. rain. Thank you. Well, listen, I expected speak often with you between now and election day. So let's start with a little bit of a biography. What what brought you to this place today where you're not running for this this office. So I have to do all my children when the school for Foxconn schools. I think they think tank for my first one, but the second one has been dawn, I feel that this cool bore have never listened to the parents. And I decided that I want to do the voice over finds community and the Cold War on Indies area. Doesn't want to listen to people that we want to make change. I know you went to the last meeting of the school board, and you were very passionate at the microphone, but you spoke entirely in Spanish, so I I don't know what you were so passionate about could you tell us. What is it? That's happening right now in your schools that are that's that's got you. So animated and motivated. This is Cold War. Have never listened for undecided to say, I was thinking my if between spun is because finally you never you're never like you say like. Speaking. But I talk about how that knowledge that they put in too much money. You have children they Iran it not benefit for that. And how is it affecting your children right now in the school? But how do you do you feel like your kids are not getting the education that you're paying for that you wish from from your school district that through like my first phone has not is not working? He is h is all my youngest my son does finish high school. When I went to school. We have access to. We have books that we can go back to the books base by base held by sun basis. They just lead her that everything is ten that number will sexual affable to this defines the Hyde and everything is online, and we have access I wondering we haven't even decided that expensive with bay it back through the deduction money goes to the school board underscore for. I I still don't understand why they bring with them the -nology annoying the basics. That when they come out of high school, they need to read write and my greatly. And they coming out with another basing on it. Laura ramirez. Drain is our guest. He's running for the Fairfax county school board. She is a naturalized citizen from Mexico, and by the way. You know, a little bit about education because you've got a pretty good one. You're an engineer you work for Hewlett Packard. You have a master's degree in telecommunications. And marketing when you when you considering the education that you went through, and what you had to do to reach that level of education. I it's got to be very frustrating. When you see the school board, in my opinion, the Fairfax county school board focusing on so many things that have nothing to do with your kids education has to do with all these social issues that they want to push on the schools. If they spend money and tendon them for the schools, they spend money, and and seeing that doesn't make up two cents know like why will spend so much money in that way. Have they say we should hope of more invested in better. That helping into students and by the something. Yeah. Recently, I might have seen to be Syrian restaurant an article same that I was selected to run for scoreboard because because they have we met and they win the democrat party. What's indoors for that? I was out or the running. This is the kind of things happening company hunter, I'm had been endorsed by the Republican party. But they consider me. They know what I mean that you know, because I'm not immigrant. I'm no fighting listen teams. Now, they said, I'm not I will not be in the ballot in November. Then you really that way. Who said this because you're endorsed by the Republican party that you shouldn't be on the ballot. No what I'm saying. Is that I might have seen go for now arrested now. Yeah. That my opponent. Melanie, wasn't dot for the democrat party on any other country running for hunter meal. Oh, I see. So so arrested the rest, and now has published that because you're a opponent was endorsed by the Democrats that she's the only one who's going to win. No one else is going to going to have a chance happening. I know that and so many of the people who live in Fairfax county feel the same way that they're ignored because they're dismissed because they don't identify with the appropriate political party will Laura Ramirez, drain, and we don't think that way, and we're going to try to change that thought process rule show rest in now, we'll show them your endorsed by the Republicans. And as far as I'm concerned, you have just as good at chances winning as anyone else. I expect a heavy here. Many times we tween now and election day. Thank you so much for running. Thank you have a wonderful day you too Laura Ramirez, drain. She knows a little thing about this. And we're going to be having her quite often. We didn't even get to talk about her Dacian that she started to help let Tinos in this area, get their education. She's actually doing it right now. And we need that kind of. New thinking on the Fairfax county school board come on. Fairfax county you happy with your leadership right now. Of course, you're not four fifty five wwl, traffic.
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"Latest and his very unique and informed perspective on these things. Also, Laura Ramirez drained she is a conservative running for the school board of Fairfax county. And she will join us in the for o'clock hour along with Phil Kerpen, president of American commitment who says it's time to end federal subsidies for electric cars, and I am with him on that all of that coming up on today's program. But right now, let's circle back to that first story this escalation not just in the investigation into the investigators there during a spy gate, but also the the war between the Democrats in the house and. The White House. Over these endless committees endless investigation, endless subpoenas of the Trump White House, Stephen grows as the special assistant to President Trump and also deputy press secretary, and he joins us now from sixteen hundred Pennsylvania, mister gross. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me on. Well. I'm seeing the latest hear Mr. grows in that. Is that the White House counsel has informed Mr. Nadler's committee that no way you're not complying with any of these subpoenas? How how extensive is this? What what will you provide the house, and what are you drawing the line on while as to this particular item? You know, this is part of Sherman. Neither 's Russia redo investigation. You know, it wasn't as if enough was done by Mr. Muller and all of FBI agents and all of his prosecutors over two years and thirty five million dollars and a four hundred page report chairman Adler now things that he's going to rep. Locate this investigation somehow and find something that Bob Muller didn't. And so this letter was away of the White House saying back to him politely. You know, thanks, but no, thanks. You know, you you don't have a legitimate legislative purpose in recreating a criminal investigation. That's already been completed and already exonerated the president. But always if you do come up with a legitimate legislative purpose for an oversight request were here. And and we'll listen, but until then don't expect a great deal of help from us. You know, let's explore that because I find that to be very interesting and compelling constitutional argument here, you know, Mr. Nadler is going on television. You can't not turn on Cable News Network and not seem giving an interview some kind of he constantly says, that's the whole point. Well, yeah. Well, he keeps saying we need to do with the president. Did we need to get to the bottom of it? We need to get the bottom of the investigation. That's not really his role. Is it? I mean, what is the judiciary committee's job in terms of its functionary purpose to the legislative process. I mean, it's it's clear that the chairman Adler, and and other chairman are are doing what I would call oversight via press release. I mean anything that they can do to get in front of a Bank of cameras. I mean, I don't know if you've ever worked on the hill. I worked on the hill. I know the game and there's four hundred thirty five people running around trying to get attention is to get that precious golden airtime and the way you do. It is behave the way the chairman now there's been behaving, which is, you know, you know, having sound and running to the microphones chairman Nadler is not the department of Justice. The judiciary committee is not a grand jury. They are an oversight body that should be working on any number of of laws to improve our Justice system or the criminal code or the things that fall within their jurisdiction. Action. They are not a prosecutor or US attorney's office. So they shouldn't be trying to recreate an investigation that's been over for about a month now. And by the way, they're also not an investigative body. And I find it fascinating Stephen grows that just a year ago when the cavenaugh hearings were going on you had Democrats in the Senate saying, hey, we need to give this to the FBI because we're just a legislative committee. We can't investigate we just hold hearings. But here now, we have the House Judiciary committee taking on the mantle of an investigative body. Right. They're they're they're saying, okay. Justice department investigations done. Now, it's our turn. We're truly through the looking glass here where you know, the the senators were right when they did what they did like they are not prosecutors or investigators in the in the real sense of the term. So they wanted to refer things over to the FBI to look at particular allegation in this case, the FBI or lots of agents and the Justice. Department through a special counsel has already done this investigation. And now the legislative ranch wants to think that it can now do the same investigation. And somehow it be different actually when you and I both know Larry chairman Nadler already has his conclusion in mind. I mean, it's not like he's trying to get to the truth of something. He already knows his views about the president. So what exactly are they investigating when they already know what their result is? Is it possible that chairman Nadler and the Democrats in the house their game here is that they expected the White House response like this. They expect the White House to say no, we've already had the investigation and really what the end game for the Democrats is we tried we asked. So now we have to have an impeachment hearing is that really what's the play. Do you think? Well, I'm I what I know for sure or what what I can definitely infer from their behavior is that they love to ask for documents or information to which they have zero legal right to which they know no judge would compel. And then when they don't get those documents go to the microphones and complain and stamp their feet and eat fried chicken out of a bucket in the middle of a hearing room to say, we are not getting the documents that we've asked for whether they've got some grander design about impeachment. Who knows it depends on who you're if you're talking to, you know, the one of the left wing nuts in that party or whether you're talking to leadership or whether you're talking to one of the democratic presidential primary candidates. You know, they're all over the map. So we'll see we'll see their grand design. I guess when it comes out. But I don't know. That one exists at present speechless. Even grow special assistant to President Trump and deputy press secretary what I like about the letter that was delivered to the house is that I'd like to talk about this bit. Is this issue transcends this administration? This is not necessarily about President Trump. This is about the presidency. This is about the separation of powers, and the precedent that could be set here talk about that for a minute. And how the scope of this subpoena request really would would make an impossible for a president to do his job. Yeah. I mean, kind of the secret that the dare not speak its name around here is that the current White House is doing nothing more than relying on the same legal precedent as the prior White House under President Obama both of our Whitehouse's rely upon the department of Justice, particularly the office of legal counsel to advise us on what is and is not executive privilege. What is or is not a legitimate, you know, request from from an oversight committee because we want to know what can and cannot be defended. If we have to go to the third branch of government, the article three federal judges. So when during the Obama administration Obama stopped his social secretary from having to go to Capitol Hill to testify about this ally. He gatecrashing incident, you know, they they invoked in -secutive privilege about that. Well, played Stephen groves. That's true. And when the Obama Justice department in twenty fourteen handed down and opinion from the office of legal counsel that one of Obama's assistance to the president. You know, a senior White House official could not be compelled to go to the hill and testify. We're relying on the same precedent that the Justice department going back beyond Obama beyond Bush. I mean, William Rehnquist when he was a DOJ official wrote one of the original opinions on on these matters. So we're not inventing these things the president isn't behaving imperiously the way that the chairman neither accused him of behaving today. The president and his White House counsel's office is simply following the law. Protecting executive branch equities such as executive privilege and confidential communications. It's it's no different than any other president. And you're quite right. These are precedents that need to be protected. Not just for the current president. See but for future presidencies as well. If the obviously I don't think mister Nadler or the leadership of the house are going to respect the president's position here, and they're going to continue this kind of behavior. What does this do to the people who work in the White House? I know it's it's challenging to get people to work in the administration right now, partly because of the senate's behavior dragging their feet on so many of the confirmations. It's unprecedented. What they've gone through. But isn't this also sending a signal to potential hires potential people that you could be getting to work with the administration that if you work in the White House, you're going to be harassed by constant constant interference and calls for your internal communications. Nobody wants to walk into that. It's it's very difficult. I mean, every every congress, whether it's Republican or democrat, Democrats engages in some level of oversight. All that we ask is it that oversight be based on a legitimate legislative purpose, and I'm probably at some point or another both parties on the hill are guilty of string beyond a legitimate legislative purpose, but as long as you know, members of the house. And they're chairman insist on demanding to see documents that they're not allowed to have or demand to have senior officials or other White House officials, you it'd be dragged up the hill to be to testify about what they're working on. You know, it is a bit of a chilling effect. I mean who wants to to who would want to come and be White House counsel? When you see what they're doing to Don Mcgann, or when they're demanding Stephen Miller, come up to the hill and talk about immigration policies. You know, that's not. That's not why people come to serve in the White House. Yeah. Yeah. I completely agree with you. And I think that that's kind of an underlying problem here with with the behavior of the Democrats, and sadly, a small handful of Republicans still in this town in their treatment of people who do make that sacrifice in work for it administration. Because it's not always, you know, I'm sure you would agree Stephen grows. It's not always a party there when you're doing a job like this. So I I it bothers me that they are. They are putting that chilling effect on potential hires for administer. Gratien? Well, it's an it's an honor to serve, you know, the president has priorities. We are trying to execute those priorities for the American people. We're going to have to suffer some of the slings and arrows that come with the job. I guess that's the nature of the beast. But we only ask that, you know, our friends down Pennsylvania Avenue be reasonable. Don't try to redo a criminal investigation, which is over. And let's see if we can move forward on other priorities like infrastructure like lowering drug prices and doing all the things that the American people elected both the president and those members of congress to do. Thank you for joining us. Stephen gross. He is a special assistant to President Trump and also deputy press secretary and appreciate you giving us your time from sixteen hundred Pennsylvania today. Thank you for having me on you bet that Stephen groves, and I just want to remind you as this is a very important topic for us this latest development now with the White House saying, no, wait, Jerry Nadler. No, wait, Nancy Pelosi. Also in addition to that move today the. Doing war of words of between John Brennan. Now, the former CIA director and James Comey where the Brennan's now trying to throw Komi under the bus more revelations about the investigation into the Trump campaign during the two thousand sixteen election and more about that investigation of where it may actually lead Tony Schaffer, former CIA trained, senior intelligence officer and retired Lieutenant Colonel from the army he will be joining us at five o'clock in studio for lengthy conversation about all of those things I know you care about that. So you're gonna wanna be here five o'clock for that. It's now three twenty. Let's check in with Ed Rodriguez. He is in the Hague dean carpet cleaning traffic.
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"Wilson bridge in Landover from arena drive to route fifty New Hampshire avenue to calls Ville road anti-sense corner from route seven down the gallows road now from garage door repair dot com, but WMA L Weather Channel forecast. Cloudy tonight. There is a slight chance for rain low fifty eight partly sunny tomorrow, high seventy seven cloudy Friday, high eighty four. It's seventy one in high. It's Bill Seventy-three right now at Reagan national Lima relief on one zero five point nine FM and AM six thirty Washington small w when they Al Gore shot when one thousand dollars now text the national keyword spent two nine five eight one nine that's spend two nine five. Eight one nine text S P N D two nine five eight one nine we'll text you back from your entry thing to messaging rates may apply. It's four days on W M A L deliri- O'Connor show. AM six thirty. We're learning more and more about the investigation into the investigators that must take place with regard to the spying on the Trump campaign, and maybe other campaigns during the two thousand sixteen election cycle by the Obama administration to that end Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer CIA trained, former senior intelligence officer will join us at five PM in studio to give us the latest and his very unique and informed perspective on these things. Also, Laura Ramirez drained she is a conservative running for the school board of Fairfax.
"laura ramirez" Discussed on Blank Check with Griffin & David
"I mean, this is the main thing we've been talking about in this miniseries is how much how quickly timber Salish himself as like clear brand the people's gots. Yeah. Yeah. And. Yeah. Just like, oh, another one of those right? Yeah. Which was surprising because he is so Essa teric. It was weird that once you get it, you netted like pick up the his language you can you can understand what the rules of his universe. I think that if anything this might of caught people of guard because it was so sweet, I think that was. Sahar movie just a horror movie and. Beetlejuice was gonna spooky bat looking and tone way. And this one wasn't spooky is so kind and sweet children's very sincere children's film. Now. Here's here's my transition. I feel like you have carved out a similar niche for yourself in comedy. As Tim Burton as the timber of comedy as a Tim Burton of comedy. I don't know. I think I keep thinking of how fun. It would be for say like a Laura Ramirez too. I fantasize with a Beetlejuice remake. Starring Laura means do a good job. Our guest is Julia Torres. Comedian will you've written for Saturday Night Live, and you have your own show. That's coming down the pipeline, which is less Fouque's. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. It's a spooky show is. Gently spooky show a horror themed comedy. Yes. The ads at a horror comedy but much like timber, and it's a comedy using in that world the world horror and spook. I'm definitely not as interested in Christmases. Tim Burton is. No Burton obsessed with Chris he likes Christmas a lot. He does like this back to back. These are two Christmas movies in a row. No. But I feel like you, you know, you have this like very sort of meteoric rise. Where like I feel like the second started performing people were like, oh, that's what he's doing. And it was a similar thing to Tim Burton. I'm not saying you directed Batman. But we're you you have a very specific like universe that you build around your comedy. I think. Well, which is what I like about. Directors like Tim Burton where it's like beetle, juice and Scissorhands are just I mean. Yes, there the rooted in in you know, Frankenstein these other stories, but they're. I like the the idea of of audience as being like what what is that? And then that becoming a Halloween costume for the rest of shirt. Sure that is just my biggest dream is to create something where. Liberal arts students are over dress up as that and people are like what is that? And they sort of explained they're like, oh, yeah. I think I saw that people sell unlicensed fan, art shirts. Zaza l-. Yes. Right. Yes. Oh my God. Do you find? So now that you've like you've created TV show, which does not exist, which doesn't exist. Yes. Yeah. Do you find yourself trying to put stuff in pointedly in the hopes that like, oh, this will be something that someone could easily make into a Halloween costume? I think that there are a couple of opportunities. Okay. Yeah. A couple of opportunities there. No spoilers. Yeah. So this movie Edwardson. I was very surprised digging into this. I've been very surprised about the time line the velvet of his movies because it was different than I thought. It was okay. He on with this was later. Yes. So Beal second well, and he comes up with this pitch while he's developing Beetlejuice, all he's done is peewee. Beal was a scripted Warner Brothers has and while he's working on Beetlejuice. He's like, I got this other idea. This was apparently in the most like timber origin story ever. He had just made this drawing when he was sixteen years old and he held onto the strong. Everyone was like that's a movie a slender boy Scissorhands all black with scissor like this the the hands of sort of. Yes holding. Them like this. He's yeah. Yeah. The the the blades are always down because. Yes, gentle and he's aware trade of hours. Right. He's right. But he looks like a begging dog ticket by how much this character. Feels like a dog watching this movie. Oh, sure. Very timid little like toys is dog. Yeah..
"laura ramirez" Discussed on Las Culturistas
"Those kinds of directors like Sofia Coppola who prefers to make movies about a specific kind of person, whether she's actually like that just knows the inner life of that person very well. That could be true. And then there's people like angrily you who make amazing that have nothing to do with him about being a closeted game in in in the south, right? Nothing. But he made one of the, yeah, in films and LG history wonder also, I mean, but that is also very fascinating to me and and just like why also like you know a in like side by side to this. Let's also have more creators of color says, I think for angry and I don't know if this is like right, but like I think it might get to that thing. Code switching and like having to understand and empathize with experiences other than yours in order to succeed in like survive in the world. And so I mean, part of me wonders if it's that, like it's like that ability to constantly be too shifting focus, and I don't just like understanding others in order to make your own art and it's not always like it doesn't always have to be hit or whatever sound bite at the heart of grace. Merz was saying, voices should tell stories which of course, but I'm just saying like artists are also our imaginations and their creative in their talents. Just, you know, you're literally telling people not to see it, and I'm sure you haven't seen it. About the Disney prints sort of discourse that's happening now, the jungle cruise jungle cruise. Oh, yeah. To be honest with you. I. I'm not surprised. I wasn't eiser because it's Disney. I mean, like look and also they're like, we serve. That's what is it literally just about to say. I mean, look, it's either they pick a British guy because Britain being British seems gay. Josh gattis musical theater and like that's and that's dead. And. No, but like you know. I. There. I mean, God brenham says this beautifully on Twitter, but he's like, you know, it's true like they have this thing about, you know, it can't be too close to reality because it grosses them out. Yes, yes. Well. Is scary. You know what we ended on my conic note for an iconic episode and we really got into it. I think I think fan club, I think this is the Orioles fan club, and I think that we have to go out with. Say that I owe show in bed taste? Yes. Did you hear my accent imbed tasty IT in badge? Yeah, my my, my Boston. And you give us the plug for the show in your Boston accent? Absolutely. I come check out in bad taste, Jeff idle joint on the twenty third swing through get a little donkey. You can see a lot of incredible comedians. Got Karen, she, we have master himself Boania through. We have Laura Ramirez dot Steve, Mark, and Lucy Cottrell coming through. I mean, it's just gonna be a night, a heavy hitters. Tell them, you know, Telhami -centia. Town's finest right here stopped at the border of Massachusetts. We found with a musical version of Moreau speech. Oh, Henny. The. Two. Should start a bound. This has been a forever. Dog production executive produced by Brett Bom, Joe Silio and Alex Ramsey for more original podcasts, please visit forever. Dog podcasts dot com. It's a script horror shows on apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts keep up with the latest forever. Dog news by following us on Twitter and Instagram at forever. Dog team and liking Al on Facebook.