20 Episode results for "Latoya Cantrell"
Behind The Lens episode 110: Smooth, orderly and seamless
"This is behind the lens of podcast. From the lens. New orleans first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest. Newsroom i'm caroline heldman coming up on monday. New orleans. mayor latoya cantrell announced that she was ending. Partial furloughs for public safety employee's after just a few days of in person classes after the holiday. Break all new orleans. Public schools are back to virtual learning only and older inmates and louisiana prisons and jails are set to begin receiving vaccinations for the corona virus. As early as next week those stories insight and analysis coming on the podcast this week after the holiday break government and cultural economy reporter. Michael is eckstein. Hi michael education reporter. Marty jusen's here a marta criminal justice reporter. Nick crystals joining us. Hey nick and lens editor. Charles maldonado is here. Happy holidays charles. At the okay. Michael were up first with the mayor's office late last year. Mayor latoya cantrell in one day per week furloughs for all city employees as a budget crisis was looming earlier this week. Her office announced they would be ending furloughs for public safety employees police fire and some other departments and signaled larger city. Personnel changes coming up. What was the announcement that they made on monday. Yes like you said. Monday was basically a partial end to these furloughs. That have been in place since october. year and they were put in place originally because the city last year was dealing with a roughly one hundred million dollar budget shortfall and was basically looking to cost forever. They could and at the time. It was pitched as a way to kind of spread out the the losses. Instead of you know doing layoffs or you know putting more hardships on certain people so what she announced this week was that furloughs for certain departments for certain public safety department. So we're talking about. The nfl pd the fire department. I m s As a health department employees working for those departments will will no longer be under this girl that also applies to the juvenile justice intervention center in. Which is our juvenile detention center locally so yes to those people you know the the furlough as existed before was basically one day for every pay period so if you're a fulltime employees. It was pretty much a ten percent pay cut and now that's going to be reinstated for some s to clarify that one day to prepare period. Works out usually two to once about every two weeks. Okay and i'm sure that the Those particular cuts were probably highly controversial. There's been a lot written about you. Know how for example. The custom fire department was affecting their ability to respond. I mean there have been some high profile fires lately You know part of that is due to this. Focus on the cuts to the fire department. The fire department also dealt with staffing issues for years this on top of that And then obviously you know. This year has seen a violent crime increase. You know big violent crime increase from last year here across the country but but really new orleans and so a lot of people are looking at that saying. Is this really the time that we should be cutting on law enforcement. Health department obviously was controversial itself. Because we're still in the middle of a pandemic june justice intervention center. I'm not sure you know publicly. How controversial that was the justification for that was almost kind of separated from from the others. i think what you're dealing with there is that's also been a place where were the city has seen consistent staffing issues. Over the years. I think with the pandemic and the new protocols that's called for has just required moore staffing there. And i think that there is some concern about the city. Staying in inside of state and federal guidelines for what juvenile detention has to look like. So i think that that kind of is more justification on juvenile justice center. Is there any indication that this criticism partially prompted the change or what. What prompted the change. Yeah there's pressure from all over. The i mean you know you look at the fire and police associations. They were leaning heavily on the mayor to to end the furloughs for public safety. The city council has passed some resolutions that basically You know have said if we realized certain new funds they have to be funneled to end. Furlough for nypd. D so Yeah from city council from the public from the media from the workers associations the mayor was definitely getting a lot of calls to end the furloughs especially at the police vita parnes. I would say we're seeing headline after another bed this year this year. Murders being by by you know about seventy from last year. A lot of major fires hearing in the news lately route last year And the firefighters union in particular was very very vocal. Every time there was a major fire of getting out there and and blaming mayor blaming the furlough very publicly this immune newspaper articles as well as court you know as a conservative daily social media campaign alerting various neighborhoods that their neighborhood. Is you know their neighborhood is endanger today. Because of the fire station has been. It's been a lot of Embarrassing headlines for city hall combined with social media attacking city hall daily. I am a bit curious nursing twitter discussion about this recently. I guess it'll be easier to see. In retrospect. But but i i am curious about. I think everyone reading the news regularly is kind of noticed. More big fires in the news. And i think you know whether that's a perception issue whether the associations are pushing these stories more or whether they're really has been negative effect from the furloughs and an inability to respond to these fires. That'll be an interesting thing to suss out at that again. I retrospect will help with right. How much is it going to cost. The furloughs continued through twenty. Twenty one as originally proposed would save the city about twenty eight point six million dollars now this into furloughs for for certain departments. That's going to bring off about sixteen million dollars that so adding this new cable that the city hadn't originally budgeted for it's about sixteen million dollar cost So again the effective the furloughs did the monetary being or the financial savings for the city have been cut a little bit more than half on the number that we were given is that there are roughly two thousand and two hundred and forty three employees that this is going to affect So you know again. It's a big chunk of the furloughs. Although i guess the furloughs will still you know. Save us roughly twelve thirteen million dollars this year if if they're not ended sooner what's the justification then so. It's actually not clear about this that you know there hasn't been any new money actually realized to pay for this yet. This is a decision. That's based off of more optimistic projections. So you build the budget for twenty twenty one based off certain you know projection forecasts that was back in december passed the budget on december. First and in some things have changed since then. So i think there's some confidence about how the vaccine the vaccine can get out so i think there's some hope that maybe by full Of this year tourism will really pick back up. I think there's also that the federal government is going to step up and provide some more direct financial aid to local and state governments Were some of this. I mean this. Was you know we talked about this. For months back backman the federal cares act was passed in in support of the cares act provided funding to state and local governments but only to reimburse them for costs associated with the response rate. So if you needed extra police. Extra face masks federal government would would help you there but it didn't have any money set aside to help governments make up for money that they lost because of the pandemic. I just wanted to interject very very briefly. Michael is absolutely right that there is nothing in the cares act that provided revenue revenue losses. However you know as as the as the federal agencies interpretation of the cares act sort of involved it evolved in a more and more flexible direction. and among the the larger expenses that that while by were were payroll for public safety employees. That was you know that is a pretty big chunk of the city budget. However the city the city of new orleans is not large enough to apply for its own cares. Act money Directly it had to go through the state and and the state legislature took a chunk of what was allocated the state of louisiana and what wish was originally supposed to be allocated to local governments and gave it to a a small business small business. I believe loan program or relief pro program at any rate. I can't remember exactly so that. Cut that the amounts is going to it. Particularly the larger local governments new orleans ended up ended up receiving far less Than what it applied for from the state under the cares act can technically should have been eligible for right in lake. Charles is saying. I think newman's ultimately applied for over two hundred million dollars in kobe related expenses. Which i mean i. I don't think there were actually two hundred million in extra dollars that we had to spend because the cares act so yeah i think charles right that the word ways to kind of expand that But we had to rely on the state's allocation which is going to be an issue going forward perhaps rate so i. I think that was another big stressing point front from the mayor at this press. Conference was listen. We're feeling good about the vaccines what we feel. Good that the incoming presidential administration in congress will be able to have another stimulus. But there's still a lot of unknowns. Maybe if they do provide local government support. It's again routed through louisiana on may maybe against the a situation where they divert that money to business loans or whatever else so There is still some uncertainty that this optimism will actually play out but i think they feel comfortable enough at this point To kind of do what was top priority for a lot of people which was to get the police fire health department back up and running kind of with folk acidy. I said i'll mentioned two things here. One is that. I'm sure the mayor's feeling even more optimistic since this press conference because press conference was on monday and tuesday of course with the election in georgia So now not only are dealing with the democratic administration. That's probably gonna be more friendly to state and local aid in teacher coronavirus aid package. But we're now have a congress that theoretically is going to be more friendly to state and local aid in the neck in the next coronavirus act. Now the second thing. I wanted to bring up in a in. I'd like to hear a little bit from michael on this because i don't think we've heard anything from the mayor on. This is so so they have. They basically did basically cut out sixty million dollars in potential savings. And i realized that they have all these just asians including the vaccine and and the hope of federal money What we haven't heard from the mayor. I don't believe is is any reference to the claims. She was making before the december election that we would be out that the city would be out twenty five million dollars if voters failed to pass a her her tax millage package. Have we heard i at the time. I was very skeptical of that claim. And i continue to be skeptical of that claim from the mare. Have we heard any reference to that. Since not i think you know the administration seems to be putting a lot of that debate behind them not really addressing them at this point You know if there are effects if that has actually come to fruition. They haven't announced publicly. I guess that's what i can say but Yeah i mean. I was also very skeptical about the claim to begin with. It doesn't seem to have played out now. At least they haven't announced in something. That's been a consistent challenge you know. Reporting on city hall is win. Money means something in. There are some times where the the mayor will talk about a six million dollar loss. If we don't do something like it's the end of the world and we're gonna have to lay off all these people at other times. We found twenty million dollars to something good and so i think that trying to gauge. You know what's really important for the function of government versus. What's selling tactic for a certain policy. you know. It can be confusing to get around. Because we're we're dealing with big numbers but you know. The city has a seven hundred million dollar plus general funded normal years so you know it can be hard to gauge. But like charles is saying it was looking at the end of the world if the millage package didn't pass Now were adding sixteen million dollars without shirt that will actually find that money in so it all just depends on our presented. I guess she also hinted at some larger personnel changes that are potentially in the offing. Do you have any idea of what that is. I don't i'll start with that. They meet some very broad references to these bigger personnel changes. That are coming to the city. They did not get into details. Did not have the opportunity to ask more detailed questions about it but it. I think it's definitely something to watch because it's interesting because we were talking about at the press conference was fairly corona virus related right. It was restoring funding that had previously existed for these departments. Now it seems like they're also talking about a different territory which is a larger restructuring of the city workforce. And i think something to watch for you know at the say announcements are coming out in the next few weeks about what that actually means. I think something to watch for is how krahn virus issues are blended with. Overall structural changes at the cantrall administration may be as wanting to make for a while so my first thought when they're talking about broader personnel changes. I tried to get clear on whether they're talking about dealing with the ongoing crisis in the ongoing budget crisis or are we talking about. You know the way that mitch landrieu writing normally years said. Oh we need to restructure x. Or centralized ex and you know so. So that's the thing to watch but yeah i mean to answer your question. Most simply i. I really don't have the details. They haven't been announced on over expecting more details kong. It's also somewhat interesting that this con- press conference which signals a an optimism about the future of two thousand twenty one because of the virus because of realized tourist rebirth and a revenue that might stream in and yet just now also the same week. We are hunkering down. Were were going back to a tighter. Lockdown for corona virus because of the transitions up so high also kind of an expected announcement. We saw this week Yesterday when they redid the state positively numbers which they do. Every wednesday the positivity rate doubled in new orleans and went from bob five and a half percent to ten and a half percent which interestingly kind of scarily is is is is. It's a very high positivity rate but it's also the lowest in the entire new orleans metro area so yeah we are seeing increased hospitalizations. We're seeing more cases every day overseeing more positively in the tests and you know at the same time we're seeing we're seeing a vaccine rollout that is kind of stumbling We had a. We had a story earlier this week. By our health report bill keeper who when visited several pharmacies and and basically they were just completely overwhelmed and and the the pharmacies he visited had had run through their hundred slot allocation in a half hour an hour day. They had made all the appointments that they could make an. We're beginning waiting lists that were starting to stretch into the hundreds and probably beyond So we got a little bit of news that today's thursday. We're going to publish friday yesterday. wednesday from from the governor's office about the possibility of the state is looking into how to do a mass vaccination program. But you know that at this point is just a speculative and will depend on getting higher and higher allocations from from. Cdc which we have yet to see. Well our thanks mike. This is a perfect segue into marta. Story the kids in schools had a break for the holidays. Went back on monday of this week. And now they're going to virtual learning again after three days or four days of in person. It really seems like it happened so quickly what what happened. What prompted the change. It accidentally happened so quickly. And i think you're hear a lot of parents and families and teachers probably rightfully complain about that because this about face decision being made so late in the game just put everyone back together for a couple of days which is not what we necessarily want during covid during the pandemic and then spit them back out to figure out daycare and childcare situations and at home learning So like charleston. Michael we're talking about. Numbers have been rising. Positivity rates cities been engine up and then now it's doubled and then of course there are also watching. The daily case counts which earlier in the year the district had said. They didn't want to see anything about fifty cases a day. And were you know over the weekend. Seen numbers above one hundred and fifty above two hundred had any schools and he charter schools. Decided not to come back at all. After the break there was one at least one charter school. Break last kademi. On sunday before students returned Told it's families that they would not be going back to class because of those concerning numbers and their ceo treve perfuse. Really kind of said echoed a lot of the concerns that many educators have had in the city. Which is you know if you guys these thresholds and were surpassing them. Are we going back to in person learning. Why don't we just take a one week break. Which is what she had planned to do for their school. Because they could kind of suss out Any exposures people could finish quarantines maybe had happened due to holiday exposures or visiting family members. And then she. She had planned to go back on january low now. It's not going to happen because they're going to be out until at least january twenty first. I think what would happen here. And there's been some criticism about at this this last minute Not only because the last minute timing but but you know a lot of people saying we're seeing less transmission in schools than we'd see and other other places where people gather so. This really is a greater hardship on people than is necessary. And that's that's completely understandable but the fact remains that the neural public schools district Had set it had had set these these metrics and said you know these are the metrics when we cross these reptiles. That's when we're gonna have to do real revaluation and and the city had blown way past those those threshold will pass them and up until you know earlier this week. It just didn't seem like they were even going to to to consider going through virtual. I think they were getting some pressure from the teacher's union there. We're getting some pressure from concerned. Parents you know just basically calling them out and saying look you said we go. Above five percent positivity you're gonna reevaluate you know the other metric was if you go about fifty cases they kind of set themselves up for this and it is curious that when we first went over by percent according to state data which was a week ago your two weeks ago. Yeah possibly that. They didn't start discussing this then because they had said very specifically the numbers were looking at. This is how we're gonna make our decision and And it just seems that they had briefly decided. Well we're just gonna forget about that until earlier in the week. I mean in fact we've been our five percent for two weeks and they had a press release last week saying all right everybody. We're going back to school on monday. So yes i would agree with. Charles's very curious. The there didn't appear to be any public discourse about why that decision was being made or at least acknowledging that we were over. Five percent positivity and cases coming in at over fifty in case the right what do we know about cova cases at schools i would. Unfortunately i don't think we know a whole lot We know that officials have said that There doesn't appear to be a lot of covid transmission in schools. But when you reach a point like rat now which is You know we're in the red level of all the metrics when you reach that point officials say that you know that's that's gonna spread potentially in schools to as it's spreading the community so basically hit a threshold of your so likely to be in contact with someone who might have a case i think in not stats where read nuts could be happening in schools. Because they're not reaching more than half of cases they're not reaching within twenty four hours to add to that we also don't know much about covid cases nulla public schools this week. I believe i believe the state released data on overall parish rates yesterday but that includes public and private schools in you don't know which is which the state data but The no public schools district Has opted not to release new numbers on on active cova cases connected to its schools this week for some reason that i'm not sure what it is but theoretically we should be getting new numbers. None of them on monday. The eleventh is that right mara. That's right and yeah. I find that very curious because they were able to make the decision to come back to school surely they were knowing are hoping to know like how many teachers were going to be how many students were going to be out to positive tests or exposures and that was one easy brutalize decided to go virtual for this week because they didn't have enough staff to be fully staffed. Will you'll keep your eye on it for us. Thank you thank you. You're listening to behind the lens. I'm caroline heldman my guest this week. Our michael isaac stein mart. Juicin' nick crustal and lens editor charles maldonado. Hi i'm madeline rufo. And i'm a freelance reporter for the lens. When you listen to this podcast or read a story at our website you join in on the process of examining life and culture in a way that makes us all better citizens and better people with more and more noise and information coming at us every day. It's important to have a place you can rely on for truth and balanced please make a tax deductible donation to support our work at our website the lens nola dot org slash donate and thank you more corona virus news nick as we pivot to criminal justice governor john bel edwards announced this week. That elderly prisoners are in the cohort who are eligible to receive the vaccine for the corona virus as early as next week. Had this always been a plan for prisoners to be in this vaccination group. It's unclear to me you to what degree the state was planning on doing this all along. You know there's been some debate nationally about what prioritization. Prisoners should get some some a lot of medical. Experts argued that prisoners as a whole group matches. Elderly prisoners should be prioritized. The vaccine louisiana does not appear to be doing so so yeah it was. It was not clear to me whether or not these elderly prisoners were going to be included in this initial phase. Actually when i asked the department of health initially told me that they weren't and i assume that communication breakdown between personnel into and and the decision makers but it does seem like you know this. This may have been something that they were figuring out. And obviously you know. The vaccinations are starting next week. People became eligible this week. So so the vaccines haven't been distributed to the prison yet. As far as i can tell so. I'm not sure when those decisions and this is a population of prisoners who are over seventy. How many of those are there. So their four hundred eighty nine state prisoners who are eligible At most of those are over seventy also some in n. Stage renal disease. So yeah though. There are four hundred. Nine state prisoners were eligible according to the governor At a press conference yesterday what is less clear is. There's also a fairly large jail pretrial. Jail population were not state prisoners. And it's not clear to me yet. How those prisoners in local jails will will be able to take the vaccine or whether or not they're being included in the states allocation to of vaccines to jails. there are state prisoners. Who have been sentenced who are housed in local jails the state contracts with local jails in order to hold some of their prisoners until the governor said that those those inmates inmates the state inmates would be a it would be allocating vaccines for them. But this pretrial a detainees who are who are worthy custody of local sheriff's office though the status of those are less clear. it's likely that there are quake. A few pretrial detainees over the age of seventy. You know i think that. The vast majority of the state prisoner population over the age of seventy are people who were Convicted many many years ago and were given in life sentences relaxed up parole sentences which are relatively common in louisiana in comparison to other states on guests. Part of the reason that harish inmates were not addressed is that the state really may may not know how how many people in these populations are under the jurisdiction arish. Jails i mean you know these jails are run by dozens of different sheriff's departments. Not all of this data is centrally. As far as i'm aware so it part part of the reason it's not wasn't addressed could just be that they don't even they don't even know what this size in population ebbed talking about us. Yeah definitely will end. I mean crew detainees could get booked in one day. You know released. The next door released you not in a week when they come up with bail so much more yet. Flexible population yeah and and just as the larger debate i have have. We heard much about why it is. That prisoners were not to higher on the list in general because if you sort of look at it objectively right And take out the politics of giving a resource to prisoners which a lot of people are gonna object to. It seems like we have. We have some some some high very high risk things happening. Which is a people living in a congregate setting probably higher than average number are dealing are dealing with with some sort of a health problem you know. There's a lot of chronic drug users in jails and prisons. So you've got people packed in tight together. So the spread is the spread is gonna be higher for spread within the jail but an and i think the second part is sometimes ignored or or by people or people don't realize this but there are incredible number of people who come in and out of jails in particular a bit less with prisons but but still with prison not only the guards in an average in average large jail in the state. You're going to have more than one hundred guards coming out every day But you know you're gonna add you're going to have people getting an even larger number. Who are coming in and out getting bailed out getting arrested and getting bailed out and you know at at a large state prison. You're going to have several hundred guards coming in and out every day so it seems like there's not only a risk or congregants commerce settings spread but there's also community spread risks that's related to these jails and prisons but the vaccine hasn't been shown definitively to stop the spread of the corona virus. It protects if you get the vaccine you are protected from getting it but you are not necessarily not going to spread the disease aside from if you take the potential for community spread beyond the walls of the prison. The people people insider are just at extreme risk for contracting the virus So yeah i. I think there's a number of different ways. You can look at it when i talked to two epidemiologist and this was back when i still thought that the prisoners seventy were not going to receive the vaccine. She basically said you know. I have a problem with that Both epidemiology epidemiologically as well as the so. There's there's this kind of two two factors i. There's a finite amount. Now it's this is the ethics of it. It's so tricky. It's really really really a terrible ethical conundrum to be an for those who are administering in and allocating this precious resource at this point. I almost think like we're seeing vaccine. Rollout issues right in terms of getting people in and out the door and be able to sign up and a joke earlier that they need a one app for the vaccine because you know people are signing up at ten places then only needed one maybe vaccinate people prisoners going to be one of the most effective ways of getting the vaccine distributed. You know right more more logistically straightforward than than certainly having people sign of denver pharmacies. But we'll see as a great way to start the year. Welcome back everyone. Thanks for all your hard work ought to have a great week. This is behind the lens. A podcast from the lens. New orleans first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest. Newsroom on caroline. Heldman thanks to our guests this week. Michael isaac stein mart. Marta jason nick crystal and lens editor. Charles maldonado you can read all the other news along with opinions at our website. The ones no dot org. Thanks for listening.
Behind The Lens episode 107: But that isnt true
"This week on behind the lens mayor latoya cantrell and other city officials have for months promised the public library would be able to absorb the roughly seven million dollars in cuts. That are on this month's without any changes to services and without any detriment to the library system critics say this is impossible and blatantly misleading the united states supreme court. This week heard oral arguments. In a case that could overturn the split jerry guilty verdicts of more than a thousand people in louisiana prisons. The two candidates running for district attorney in new orleans. Both pledging to actively review all the split jury convictions to determine which ones can be retried or tossed outright regardless of the decision handed down by the high court in other election news. There are several candidates for the open seats on the new orleans school board. We'll take a look at those and cova. Numbers are on the rise in city schools after a holiday week those stories insight and analysis coming up on behind the lens on the podcast this week government and cultural economy reporter michael isaac stein. Hi michael criminal justice reporter. Nick crystals here haynick education reporter marty. Juicing this here hi mov caroline and the lens editor. Charles maldonado is also joining us. Hi charles all right. Michael up i in the news for you on big truck on your feet. Michael in the news of vote on three millage propositions that could result in a forty percent funding. Cut to the library's coming up on saturdays ballot. The cantrell administration's continued to push hard for support even resorting to what critics say. Is misleading information. Explain all these propositions what what do they say. Yes sir propositions akon best thought of as a one package. One plan one entire plan. The reason why it's split up into three separate ballot propositions according to the city is simply that there's a word limit on these propositions and there's a lot of details and there the basically the overall plan With comes out of cantrell administration is to reshuffle a group of property taxes worth roughly twenty three twenty five million dollars a year and what this plan does is it. Basically shifts seven or eight million dollars. That was once did that is currently dedicated to the public library system and shifting that funding To a number of different initiatives so that that includes economic development initiatives housing infrastructure and infrastructure maintenance as well as early childhood education. And so again really. The main thrust of what's happening here is is library. property tax funding being shifted to these other primaries. If all three are approved all right. And what's the problem. What is the cantrell administration. Been purporting that these are going to be doing well to hear the control ministration. Tell it there aren't really any problems with the propositions. I'll start with that. They have not focused on the negatives here so i mean the obvious negative is that you know. The the results of this proposition would be a forty percent. Budget cut further the public library system. Now the strange thing is that from the beginning the administration has said that this forty percent cut. I'm can be absorbed by the library Without any significant changes to what a a patron experiences when they go to the library. And i just you know the the issue here has been at least from critics perspective that there hasn't yet an open and honest conversation about really what this would mean for. The libraries future gotten hints from the administration about fraud ideas about how the library would adjust to their new budget. Talked about You know finding efficiencies they talked about attrition. Just not rehiring people who who leave. They talked about new technology. And how that can. Kind of be a multiplier employee's if they have to reduce that so they've given us these kind of broad ideas. How cut down the budget. But they've stopped well. Short of kind of fully mapping out. You know how the library is going to adjust to this new budget now. One of their big arguments is that the library has a fairly large reserve fund. Believe it was roughly eleven million dollars beginning of this year on. That's gone to about fifteen million dollars throughout this year and they say that will help them kind of be able to absorb this for the next two or three years but the big question is what happens after that once. They have completed their reserves You know the the currently budgeted for roughly twenty one million dollars expenditures this year and if this proposal passes they'll be looking at about fourteen million dollars a year so you know again. The plan is for the you know seems to be that. They'll use their reserve funding for the next two or three years to help them balance that but what. It looks like after that. It's still a a pretty big question. Yeah and what we found out this week is that it's even a question mark at this point to bid to the director of the public library system that he doesn't know what they're gonna do after they complete their reserve. Michael the way you put it was. The city's been saying that the leaves the reserves for two or three years. But you the way. I've seen it really that. The city has only been concentrating in its in. Its messaging on year one which in which the library is only set to you know Habits budget produced by small amount. And they really have have avoided the topic altogether Of what happens after we get through years one two and three because this is this library proposition. Which the the the one that most directly affects the libraries proposition two. It's a twenty year tax provinces. This would be arrangement. That would be set for twenty years. So the city has tried to focus attention on next year but This is something that is that it's gonna affect ten fifteen years yet. The ad i mean this lack of clarity on the long-term plan here Has been you know again. One of the central criticisms here was cited by the bureau governments research when they came out with a report posing the tax. It was by the advocate. New times-picayune In an editorial were they came out against it and yeah again. I think the frustration year is that it's hard to even get the conversation started. What the library is gonna look after this because the cantrall administration repeatedly has just gone with this tact of will. Nothing's going to change. In fact library will get even better. I mean yesterday. They announced that With this new millage there'll be funding a new early childhood education librarian right and and and that is great and any goes to kind of the goal of the early childhood education goal which is part of the millage package. But it doesn't explain where that money will come from. Obviously that'll you cut someplace else. They're not getting any more money than they were this year. So again the the conversation just seems to have stalled the ad. Don't worry about three years from now By that time we'll have figured it out. We'll have right size. The budget and nothing will change. Yeah and further complicating things. Is that the cantrell administration has on top of sort of avoiding the conversation of what will happen after years one. Two and three they've also made Both false misleading and even self-contradictory claims they have said if this if all three propositions gas at various various occasions said all three propositions asked it would lead to a tax cut for were new orleans residents which is just plainly not true it takes a group of taxes that is worth five point eight two mills which is a male is a tax rate and it creates a new group of taxes. That is also work by point. Eight two minutes so there is no tax cut but that they have repeatedly including even on the website. As recently as yesterday. And i'm guessing still today. Made the claim that resulted in a property tax. Cut they also of various other other claims bet about the taxes. Well michael went through a number of them in his story last week. Mike mike windows. They've been saying about it. Okay go over. A few of the the misleading false statements that we've heard there have been times where the administration has stated the amount of surpluses. The libraries collected year over year so a central part of their argument is that the library is currently currently has too many dedicated revenues. More than they need to spend to operate the way they do now. Cape troll a in the most extreme integration of this she went on. Wb okay in said that the library had underspent its budget by fifty percent in the last three years. That's not true. In fact in the last two years they spent ninety seven percent in ninety eight percent of their dedicated revenues. So that's another example. I wanted to expand on on their claim that this is a going to result in a taxi. Priests they deepen claiming that this. If if approved info this this proposal will result in attacks decrease. We've them pretty hard on this one. And they've given us an explanation their reasoning. I think it it. It's pretty interesting The reasoning they're using. I think it merits explanation. So like charles explained the tax proposal if passed away cantrell wants all three propositions pass the tax The tax rate for this group of taxes would not change it all so whether this is proposal is approved in full or rejected in full. The tax rate would be exactly the same next year now. They have on numerous occasions said that despite these tax propositions will come to voters as tax decrease now when we've pushed them to explain what they mean by that what they've explained is that they're factoring in a separate tax decree so the board of liquidation it. It's it's a body that Basically is responsible for issuing paying back city debts and they have a dedicated property tax so they collect money every year so they can pay back these bonds and back their debts and every year the can readjust their their property tax rate based off of what they think they need in the following year so this year that body chose to decrease their property tax rate. Now the cantonment administration's argument is that if you include talk property tax proposal with the separate property tax decrease cumulative effect if this is a tax increase That but the thing about that is the port of liquid taxes going down no matter what it has absolutely nothing to do with this proposal and so by this logic you could say that. The effects of mayor control tying her shoes you know of course when added to the board of liquidation adjustment ends up as taxi chris you could apply that logic to almost anything but but they're not. There's no causation. Between those things okay. New orleans advocate times. Picayune publicly came out against this proposal. These three ballot proposals. How much do you think people are paying attention. I think it's gotten very interesting. I i don't know if it was ever intended to be this prominent of an issue. I don't know if that was a tactic from from the cantrell administration But i think it's really hard to predict at this point. I think a lot of honestly will hinge on popularity right now and. I'm not really sure where that it is or how to gauge that. But a lot of the campaign has just featured cantrell promising that this is. What's good for the city. So if you're a voter who does trust does trust mayor cantrell. You know if you've been instilling confidence by the way. She's handled the coronavirus crisis for example. Which i know people have. Maybe you wanna various four behind during this situation. She put a lot into this and she has kind of made this as a result a measure of her own influence so the biggest impact will be a year taxes. Obviously but Beyond that it'll lost. It's also interesting politically to see how the turn out goes and how much political influence mayor cantrell has point. Yeah from from thirty thousand foot perspective. It's almost Seems that the people who are opposing. This are being uncharacteristic. Fairly characterized as antic- cantrell. I would say that you are seeing fairly broad coalition on both sides including the opposition side. And i think it is. It almost definitely includes a lot of people who are typically very supportive mayor cantrell and people who who have been behind her in the in the city you know stronger than average cove response but Are not willing to extend that trust to this particular measure. I think for even people who who are big fans cantrell a lot of cases. They're also big bam's library Libraries popular. O'brien one other factor. That i've been talking about which is something there are going to be voters that go to vote maybe four. Da or something else. But that they com- they see this miller's proposal and looking at it on the ballot on election day they've never heard of it before and i think i've been trying to think through how that would go assuming that host voters are supportive of the library. Which i think is true when you read the ballot language on the one hand what it says is. This is a renewal for tax for the library in early childhood education so that would indicate that's a positive thing on the other hand it also indicates an even bigger cuts then will actually happen in reality this the cut as as it said in the ballot proposition is based off the originally authorized military which was higher than what it currently is. So i'm going back in my head about whether you know photo has read about this before will read it as a good thing for library or will see as a as a for library so there's a lot of factors that go but we'll be watching. Yeah okay thank you michael. You're listening to behind the lens son. Caroline heldman my guest this week or michael is eckstein. Nick crustal marta. Juiston and lens editor. Charles maldonado hi. I'm karen godoi the co founder and executive director of the lens. The lens is the new. Orleans areas first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest newsroom dedicated to unique investigative in explanatory journalism as an advocate for openness. We provide readers with the source documents using in our reporting inviting them to check and challenge our work or to build on it through their own research. Please make a tax deductible donation to support our work at the lens nola dot org slash donate. Thank you nick and criminal justice. Also on saturday new orleans will elect a new. Da both the candidates are running on a reform platform and they've proposed an ambitious project. Comprehensive review of all non unanimous jury verdicts so supreme court. Heard arguments this week. To overturn louisiana's non unanimous jury verdicts. How many cases are we talking about in new orleans new orleans three hundred twenty four cases. That's the number a this league nonprofit of promise of justice initiative as put out and so statewide. There's dave dave estimated between a fifteen sixteen hundred. So how could they. How could they review three hundred plus cases. Well good question I mean one of the things that that the story looks at is the fact that the next year is going to be entering into office. A significantly shrunken budget The city council this year cut cut the da's budget by over twenty percent and it also can be a huge backlog of cases that are that are piling up from the pandemic in court closures. And back that they haven't been doing jury trials So it's a good question. One the story kind of tries to get but doesn't doesn't necessarily answer a particularly Thoroughly because i don't think either candidate necessarily knows exactly how it's gonna play out. They have both said that they're they're going to dedicate a resources Jason williams said that he wanted to have at least a few lawyers on it along with some investigators paralegals and they both also said that they'd be willing to team up with community organizations. So in the past maxine. The office do a partnership with the innocence project. That look back at wrongful convictions. And i think that there's a good chance that something like that will happen. Likely i think promise of justice initiative of these cases you cited in a story a case from. I think it was nineteen ninety six okay. How far nineteen ninety-six climate believe. Who's convicted in ninety seven. Okay how far back do obviously some cases go that far back are there some. That are even older than that. I think so. I don't have good information on these three hundred twenty four cases. We don't have a The number But there are certainly cases throughout the state that go back further than that. Go back to you know the seventies so yeah one of the things. That story looks at A huge amount of practical challenges. When when you go back and look at some of these cases that happened so long ago trying to find witnesses trying to hide the evidence and things like that and the gathering of all the documentation just just a huge logistical challenge. When you turn into three hundred in the city and fifteen hundred across the state is that that is if i remember correctly that just people who are still in jail yes. It is so so really. We could possibly be talking about a much much larger university. People who have been convicted had spent time in prison in his since since ben out but are walking around with felonies on their records is true. And this is something that i've been wanting to look at haven't yet is how the da's they're gonna give those cases. I've actually talked to a few people who've at nine. Am verdicts who are now out And yeah and would like to get those. Those convictions looked at again. So i think. I mean i guess and i don't want to speculate but that that for both the. Da candidates as well as attorneys. Who are who are working on this issue that they are the prioritizing people were prison but ultimately Anyone anyone who had had a conviction ninety nine mr even if they're out of prison i could could have a claim here absolutely. I mean you know this we're talking. We're we're talking about people for whom you know. Having that felony on the record could be a problem for many different types of employment if they get arrested and charged again they could be charged. habitual offender based on tendency to guilty verdict. So i certainly understand the prioritizing people who are still actually risen but but i do wonder if these candidates have considered full potential scope of this project and what it would take to actually get it done in. I'll be very interested to hear their their plans accomplishing looking at it. Through the prism of the. Da grace is this playing out one of the arguments between the candidates over. Who would be the better person to take on this task. You know jason. Williams has been critical of a keeble andrews time in the harry connick administration and her time as interim. Da in his basically argued dead when she's looking back these cases she's not going to be able to objectively analyze whether or not. It was a fair prosecution because she was part of these. Da's office and she's going to be inherently protective of the end. She she. she won't necessarily give them. The critical is that. They deserve cumulated for her guarded. Said that justin doesn't understand how the da's office works. it won't be able to officially these cases in also won't be sensitive to sort of the victims and witnesses who were involved in those cases in the first place. Yeah jason jason. Williams has spent his professional career other than being city council city council member as as a defense attorney and implicit or explicit in many of the points. Skiba room has made against him is that he's never prosecuted case. He doesn't understand it and desnick said he he. Sympathies tend to go according to according to people who support keep laborem that his sympathies tend to rest with with the defendant rather than the victims and the the suggested messages that. He's not going to be a vigorous advocate for the state when the supreme court hands down their decision. What effect might that have on our situation here. Well if the supreme court decides that the ruling the previous ninety nine aren't constitutional should be retroactive. Those treated three hundred twenty four cases in new orleans. End the fifteen hundred birds. Sixteen hundred throughout the state will be guaranteed new trials if the supreme court decides that it's not retroactive. Certainly the fate of the those cases throughout the state is is much less certain. I think it's unlikely that they get trials. Unless the state courts decide otherwise or the state legislature decides otherwise but for the three hundred twenty. Four cases in orleans is a little bit unclear what discretion the individual judges have in each of these cases generally if of prosecutor Defendant come together and agree that they want a conviction judges do that Judges will go along with that. Now what's going to happen. If that's the case with with hundreds of cases i think is less clear. I think that the judges do have some discretion from what i understand to potentially say. No i'm not going to make this conviction. Even though both the defendant and the and the prosecution would like to so there may be some. I'm not quite sure I mean let me add that. Should the supreme court decide with the mr edwards. Who is that the defendant in the case of the center of these arguments. It's a long process to get those cases. I'll try again We're six no eight Eight months ago now. The supreme court handed down a ruling in a related case that declared split jury verdicts unconstitutional but apply in applied limited retroactively. To in that case meaning that that decision eight months ago only applied the retroactive retro-activity only applied to cases that were still inactive appeals And those cases a lot of them are only just beginning to get to get to the point of being retry eight months later. A lot of those cases. Okay all right so a lot remains to be seen but what will be decided on. Saturday is who are new. Da is all right. thanks nick. Skim marta in your beat. We've got some election news coming up or some decisions to be made this saturday at the at the ballot box. What's the state of the race in the opie. Sp elections yes. We have five active races still to fill out to round out the seven member board. Only to those racist were decided in the initial election. So we have five. I think pretty active races. Three of them have incumbents but all of them have Challengers who are you know bringing new ideas to the table. So i think i think the narrative kind of here is are we going to maintain the status quo in that kind of the reform world. That we've lived in post katrina. Where are we going to see some of these challengers who some of whom don't have a lot of political experience. One of his students Lot of educators are in season. Does people like to board. That could really change the composition of the board. Do you predict turn out to be a little higher than a typical run off election just because of everything that's going on with kobe. The da's racist definitely drive people's attention on the school board while like very interesting overall might not necessarily be drawing people. But it's definitely giant. Some people menendez tax propositions like we see those are. I think absolutely catching people's is how much money are you seeing being spent in advertising. If i haven't done a deep dive on that recently but personal your anecdote. Your personal anecdotes are you. Are you getting flyers. Are you seeing stuff around. I'm definitely seeing signs around definitely a lot online. I personally live in a district. That was already decided. So i'm not not getting any of these mailers better are going out to other folks. Well i live in a district. It's still up for grabs and yet i'm seeing a ton of stuff Both in the mail people canvassing on the street specifically for the school board election. And i say that you know we continue to see now as we did when we first talked about this before the november third election. You know we continue to see a lot of checking it sort of casually the other day you know we can send you to see a fair amount of national money. Coming into these elections in enlarge dollars from From various foundations and wealthy people who are interested in education policy The one that we mentioned last time. I believe a jim walton. Who is you know the the walmart air And we we've seen a fair amount of money You know somewhere. North of one hundred thousand dollars. Thank you even more than two hundred thousand dollars coming directly from his pocket into these into these races. Mortar tell us what's going on with numbers of covid cases in the schools. The latest numbers haven't been published yet. Yes we actually saw numbers rise before the holiday. I think that's the more concerning part. Here comes the thursday. Before thanksgiving break we had You know fifty seven new cases and more than seven hundred people were in quarantine so one can imagine that those numbers have gone up over the break if people are exposed or the more troubling part might be that if they haven't received test results had even if they travel or something that maybe numbers haven't gone up quite yet but i think i think everyone everywhere nationwide citywide and district wide are looking at you. Know what affected thanksgiving have on the country Currently even with you know some testing that wouldn't have occurred because of the holiday. Currently we have a in the city. We have one hundred hundred and one new cases average per day. That's over a week's time and you know initially when schools were going back kind of moore coming up that second wave the district was using a threshold of fifteen in cases per day so we i think we're going to have to see them address that here today yet. Well an an were. We saw some concerning numbers in orleans. Parish yesterday From the state right right those. That was a big jump from what we've been seeing. Typically i talked to in that state numbers. We have both public school and private school Information i asked the district and archdiocese and neither of them to give me a break down. Yeah i mean it's so so yes just just to give everyone a background New orleans public schools releases their data on thursday afternoons. Were recording this on thursday morning. So we haven't actually seen that yet But on wednesday afternoon the state releases its school outbreak data. The thing with the state data is that it doesn't it will show you a numbers of cases in each parish that are believed to be connected to schools but it doesn't say public school or private school or whatever so we saw a big jump compared to i believe it higher than every other parish yesterday. Is that correct marta. That is correct. Although i'm wondering if the numbers weren't a tiny bit walking because a lot of the pairs reporting zero cases for yes still though i mean it was it was larger than than a lot of even the the big parishes where you would you assume they would have more consistent reliable data and it was larger than previous leaks which i think is most notable part so i suspect although i don't know when we get to thursday afternoon by the time this podcast Goes on our website. We might see another jump in orleans parish schools data. Do you know statewide if where educators are sort of falling in terms of the vaccine distribution know exactly where they might fall in the state plan. I believe from what. I remember of the you know the sort of initial cdc guideline that they would ball it would fall. I believe into the second group that includes essential essential employees would be healthcare workers. I which would fall into like you said that central right next state governments though don't need to follow the cdc guidelines. They can do whatever they want. Yeah the state is going to have. Its own plan but i suspect the state is trying to follow federal guidelines early closely. I have not actually seen the current version of the state land. So i don't know but that's that's generally been the pattern with with the corona virus policy in the state is that sticking fairly closely to federal guideline cut. Okay well next week. We'll talk about the election results. See what what shook out. Thank you thanks. You guys have a great week by by. This is behind the lens of podcast from the lens. New orleans first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest newsroom. I'm caroline heldman. Thanks to our guests this week. Michael isaac stein. Nick crystal martyred juicin' and lens editor charles maldonado. You can read all the weeks other news along with opinions at our website. The lens nola dot. Org thanks for listening.
Behind The Lens episode 101: Dual reporting
"This week on behind the lens a consultant's report commissioned by a New Orleans School found what appeared to be serious shortcomings in its special education services, but the full report was not presented to the school's governing body New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell wants to furlough thousands of city employees one day per pay period for the the remainder of the year as a cost-saving measure local Watchdog groups are urging the city council to pass an ordinance. That would ban some surveillance technology in New Orleans, including facial recognition and predictive policing software and citing a projected 150 million dollar budget shortfall due to the economic impacts of the coronavirus pandemic. The City of New Orleans is arguing in court that it doesn't have the money to build or operate the 51 million dollar facility known as phase three those stories insight and Analysis coming up on behind the lens. On the podcast this week education reporter Marta. Jewson, good morning, Marta government and cultural economy reporter. Michael Isaacs. Diane is here. Hi, Michael Smith and pinch-hitting for criminal justice reporter Nick Crystal the lens editor Charles Maldonado. Hi Charles morning education is up first you wrote this week about a previously unpublished report that found serious shortcomings with bricolage Academy special education program. The report was hidden from the public for months. It was never presented to the school's governing board though that board commissioned it instead what was made public was a watered-down version that did not mention the critical findings was only uncovered after a parent who's been a long critics gave the school administration's handling of special education hired a lawyer to get the full report. So let's get into the whole thing here the school commissioned this report. Why in the first name? Place yeah, and that parent that you mentioned Robert you have has been a vocal critic along with a number of other parents about just various aspects of their special education program and in response to some criticisms over a year ago to school so that they would investigate and then later on they hired this consultant to look into the program. When did the report get complete package that we didn't see it believe it was completed in March of this year. Did anyone even know that it was finished until the the sort of edited version came out? I don't believe so. The only people who knew where the people who saw it and that was a small number of school officials in a few at least one board member but it doesn't seem like the entire board got it. All right, so we're gonna have to break down. I guess what the what the report said and what was released to the board. Sure. So what what the report found is that you know, this is a school like many schools in New Orleans Charter Schools That Grew From only having a kindergarten up to now there. I believe K through seven this year is that they just lacked this infrastructure in their program and you know, one of the major findings was that because they just didn't grow the infrastructure as they grew and I think that's a pretty I was pretty fundamental signing especially when we have a number of schools like this in the city. So that's pretty important. I think for other schools to take a look at minimum those other findings that were things. You know, the school wasn't package tracking is the service minutes so that you know, that would be like speech therapy something like that and that's not only a problem for the student but I could be a problem for funding or for a consultant who are you know, providing those services and they also found that the school was missing out enough small amount of funds. So obviously you want to be capitalizing on all of that and they also found problems in suspensions compared to the entire School population, you know birth In to have disabilities are over representing in the suspended students who have been suspended population. I remember correctly. They they they weren't always taking the proper steps before home or suspending a special education student. Is that right? Learn? It doesn't seem like they were utilizing those there specific programs that exists to, you know, try to work with kids and make sure that they can behave in an appropriate ways before you take action. So dramatic us and sending them as bricolage Academy special education. They didn't address the the special education programs growth as well. But other words, they didn't hire additional teachers or or what do you mean specifically by that? I think they had hired additional teachers what? What was this report make clear is that you know, it was just kind of piecemeal program and you know, maybe the kindergarten the way they were doing Special outdoor interventions in kindergarten wasn't necessarily saying the 2nd or 4th grade math and that pays teachers from the report. It says that they were kind of appeared to be working in silos. Maybe not intentionally, but you know that that had kind that it had been wanting to change that happening. Okay, I would say that the finding that you're talking about here is not is not sort of a discrete finding like like the findings about suspensions and stuff like that. This is just this is sort of the the foundational finding of the report that all the all the other problems kind of kind of grew out of grew out of this school growing so quickly that it was that it was it grew more quickly than it was able to build up. It's it's special education infrastructure and all the other problems kind of Grew From that and you know, this this has birth High school that's grown quickly. I think it started in in what 2013 or something Marta and it was it was inside Touro synagogue and you know just seven years later years, you know, it's a 7 I believe seven hundred students school that operates out of a former high school. So this is and you know, this has been a very popular and and fast-growing Charter School how they've been transparent about the speed of the growth and then their inability to keep up with it and to say Hey, you know, we're trying here's you know, we've increased attendance by X percent every year and we're a little behind on this we're a little behind on that there wouldn't have been the same flags raised. This is something that maybe if they were aware that there were, you know, small shortcomings in certain areas, but it was kind of the thing where you did need a consultant to come in and say hey when I took this global view, you know, I can come down. Down where I think all these issues aren't coming from and and on the issue of transparency. I think that kind of is the key Point here these findings. Don't get me wrong there serious findings wage when we characterize them in the story is as apparently, you know, serious shortcomings that that's an accurate description, but that said this is not these are not kind of Georgia resident mind, you know other schools in New Orleans charter schools have had similar problems with delivering special education with you know, complying with federal laws on selling a special education special education is expensive and difficult. The problem here in my mind is that you know, they they did the right thing by hiring a consultant to identify these problems, but I did a you know, a fairly thorough report of the 17 pages of findings and they just decided that they weren't going to to make this report public or even presented to the board that wage. That commission did in the first place. I think had they been more straightforward about it. This would be not such a big deal, right? Okay. So what did the board see? What was the edited birth? When I when I went through this slideshow that the board saw, you know, it really came up across France is crisp slideshow that it didn't specifically point out any of these laws, you know, very negative findings and and essentially each area that it hit on it did hit on some of the the areas where there were issues but it would say things like provide more training, you know, just kind of generic things like that. And I know at one point in email was exchanged between the board member and I believe the consultant or a school official who would look through the draft of the presentation home and noticed that it said strength But not weaknesses. He's like, you know, if you say the word strikes my mind is going to go to weaknesses. But you know, that's just one example of how they you know, they didn't use the word weaknesses and then point them, you know, some of those more troubling issues. So why why did did the full board the commission the report? Why did the board not see the full report don't know the exact answer to that actually, in fact, the the school would disagree with our characterization and what you just said, they say that they did see the final reports and that in fact this report that had the more detailed findings was, you know, just notes and that they provided it out of the kindness of their heart to Goodwill. Yeah. I always put an executive summary on top of my notes that see now that's that's the thing that people do and then I think there's this larger issue of schools that are kind of I think terrified to be transparent when they have issues because it you know dead As a create a legal liability because it created other liabilities. I think I think schools are nervous about that. I am not suggesting cuz I have no idea but I am noting that way if it went in front of the board, it becomes a public document by default. So I'm not saying that was part of their calculation. I'm just noting that how long is it that you found out that there was a larger report that had been edited into what was eventually seen the leg work here was really And by the parent and you know, he has two sons at the school. They both have special education needs and you know, he saw this report presented in April didn't see any specific Finance. So then he he asked for the report and when he got that Sideshow he kind of had this feeling like this isn't everything and so then during the summer promotion in July, he got something else called a debrief in which appeared to be two pages of notes from March meeting and that had really specific things in it and said that let him say I want to I want to see the full thing like where did what is it these notes come from and so they haven't he had to hire a lawyer to eventually get to it and he got that document on September 10th, which the school is still maintains is not a final porridge. So it's it's still this back and forth to this day what happens next? I think the school over the summer off. Some hires, they're trying to get better what their program and you know, the CEO was like, you know, obviously these these problems were not born overnight. They they are things that we're working and will take time to correct but they say that they've already, you know, made some moves over the summer that are helping to improve things. They want a new software to help track student files and they're they're working to make it better wage. And what's what are the parents saying that you've spoken to? You know, it's after 1. Who brought up the health plans and she had a son who she said she you know experienced things like the discrepancies. They said in the health plan is that which is a document that describes how to care for it to come out if they have a medical need and other than that, you know, it's just Shabbos. It's just saying that he hopes they will continue to age and you know work to improve these problems and that they're more transparent in the future and that, you know, no parent ever has to hire a lawyer to get what should be a public document right? Thanks Martin. It's a good story song. Thank you. You're listening to behind the lens. I'm Caroline heldman my guest this week our Marta. Jewson, Michael Isaacs Stein and lens editor Charles Maldonado. Hi, my name is Chris adulam and I'm the social media manager for the lens just as a community is a strong through its citizens the strength of the lens lies in a thousand qualified editorial and research staff as well as a collaborative network of Affiliated organizations to learn more about our work and the people who do it sign up for our newsletters at the lens Nola. Org / newsletters. Thanks. Michael onto you busy week for you the mayor earlier this week announced that she is planning to partially furlough thousands of city employees wage. She says, of course, it's a result of inadequate Revenue resulting from the economic downturn created by the coronavirus. The budget numbers are complicated here what led to the announcement announcement. I think just like you're saying if someone wants to do the coronavirus pandemic New Orleans is obviously taken a big hit Revenue wise very reliant on sales taxes. A lot of them come from the the tourism industry, which has been more or less shut down. Obviously the hospitality industry has been suffering leading to lower tax revenues. So we've known that, you know, we were in a pretty guy or financial position for a long time. I'd say in terms of the timing of the announcement maybe just as important as What's led into it is what's going to come after it which is right around wage. Going to we're going into budget talks trying to set the budget for twenty Twenty-One. So this is kind of I think, you know a leading into you know, that process took them really bearing down looking at the numbers and seeing what they can afford. So let's talk about the the complexities of the budget and how how this shortfall is being addressed by the potential for a Lowe's it's expected Revenue that it's coming out of so, yeah. So the top of line news here is that the city has lost tens of millions of dollars in expected Revenue this year and while they were some stop-gap, you know, one time funding measures that have kept us afloat this year. Those aren't expected next year. So so we're going to get into the kind of complex than that. But the the kind of top-of-the-line news thing to remember is that we are definitely down tens of millions of dollars and and that's going to pose a significant problem for our budget next year. So looking at the numbers, you know wage. Talking a lot, you know at least within The Newsroom trying to parse out the numbers that have come out. There was a recent Revenue collections report bad some interesting numbers in but you'll hear from the administration. They'll say birth 150 million dollar Revenue shortfall. They might say budget shortfall what they're referring to there is lost revenue from expected recurring sources of funds. So that would be something like sales taxes is something that you expect every single year. They had budgeted a certain amount of for sales taxes and now they're expecting a certain amount less. So that's what goes into that number at the same time. What's not included in that number is number one unexpected one-time funding sources this year, you know, the issue was whether we were going to be able to just have enough money in the bank to pay what we had to pay through the end of the year, you know, can you cut paychecks to city employees to your police officers Etc. We've had some massive expenditure savings this year. They can't show Administration wage. Really cut down on some spending items and some contracts and that's looking like, you know tens of millions of dollars more in savings. So cautiously right now, it looks like the city will get to the end of the year without having to borrow a lot of money just to to pay those everyday cost expenditures. I guess the bigger question beyond the the borrowing and maybe the day do borrowing first is are they predicting that they'll get to the end of this year at least without without her furloughs turning into layoffs? Yeah. I so there's definitely something related to personnel and payroll is coming soon. Whether that's going to be this year or for next year. I don't know my guess would be that most of the rest of the cuts will come in the 2021 budget, but that would just my prediction. I'll sing Cantrell. She sent a letter to the Civil Service Commission about these these employee furloughs and and in the letter she says in no uncertain terms that there are more per month. Now Cuts coming, you know, we we talked about that recurring Revenue shortfall next year. So they're saying we're going to see something similar next year, except we're not going to get care Zach money and we can't rely on another hair as long as you coming to a settlement or to a conclusion. So what they're really worried about is is twenty Twenty-One and the Personnel cuts that they're going to have to make for the next year. We're going to find out more about that when she releases her executive budget. Absolutely, you know, usually when they're talking about Personnel Cuts they're going to cut positions through attrition first before doing actual. So that's what I would expect to see first. Yeah, and they've been doing that. I mean, there's been a hiring freeze all year. So there are a lot of vacant positions and they've been making exceptions to that rule. But yeah, that's been the strategies so far and just tobacco what we're saying just to read it in Cantrell's own own writing. She's she writes to the Civil Service Commission when we introduced the 2021 budget wage. End of this month that budget will necessarily include Personnel spending cuts. And then she says that will come through some combination of furloughs pay reductions and or layoffs. So again by the end of October we should not be sterilized. I just just to clarify. I don't think we actually talked about what they were they amount to attend a 10% across-the-board pay cut for the rest of the year. So then you know the next mon next couple of months and that's going to be accomplished by furloughing people one day per pay period to request this by the Civil Service Commission is this just the way the way that the Byzantine way that it works in the government and that's the process by which he has to do this. It's her it's her budget. Well, well it is It is yes, but in order to in order to do layoffs and furloughs, you have to go through the the Civil Service Commission, which is an independent body that essentially exists to make sure the the Personnel actions are not being taken with political considerations in mind. Okay, so that a Civil Service employee can't be laid off or furloughed because they have angered the mayor of some lawyer. So so that's you know, that's that's a process that exists that both the city and state levels. What mayor Cantrell is asking of the Civil Service Commission. They're really kind of two thousand two separate requests in this letter one is a request for the for approval for the furloughs themselves to the Personnel director who is uh, that's an administrative position not home of the Civil Service Commission, but she runs into the civil service department and that's a standard procedure for frivolous part of that standard procedure for furloughs. However is a 30-day no way Jose. Requirement if in this case you want to start the furloughs immediately. You need to get a Civil Service Commission vote to waive the 30-day notice. But I think what the mayor is saying here is that is that if I have to do a 30 day notice requirement and wait until November to actually start these furloughs. We're gonna be talking about a lot more furlough days for employees to the last part of the Year. Oh, okay. Okay Charles framing this to the Civil Service Commission is please approve this quickly because you don't you know, we can either give you know, we found a furlough people six days for the rest of the year starting now or if we wait and we have to you know debate this for two months then it's going to be 6 days for a low just in December, you know, that's going to be more bunched up and people are going to feel that affect a little bit harder. So her argument to the Civil Service Commission is this is coming it's necessary home. Worth noting that mayor Cantrell said she was also taking that cut and her first other elected officials to as well. So it's hypothetically going to affect the entire city with not just the library people right and an update to this story just after recording the New Orleans Civil Service Commission voted to allow mayor Latoya Cantrell to go forward with the plan to partially furlough all city employees through the end of the year effective this Monday all city employees will be furloughed for one day. Every two weeks pay. Six total days through the end of the year equation a roughly 10% pay cut for the last three months of the year the measure passed in a three-to-one vote commissioner Clifton more the one member who's nominated by city employees was the sole no vote Michael the song and story you wrote about this week. The New Orleans city council is set to consider an ordinance that would Place tighter restrictions on how the city uses surveillance technology. Why is the city council? Trying to limit surveillance. Yes. So this ordinance has been in the works. I actually looked it up yesterday since March eleventh. It was a smart and sustainable cities committee that they were considering what they were calling a smart cities pilot, which was going to install these smart street lights in the central business district cameras and audio detection capabilities. And so we went to the meeting to cover what the discussion would be and and kind of surprisingly councilman. Jason Williams says we're going to press pause on as on people have brought up. I'm certain concerns about this technology and kind of spoke on this really high level about how there was a need to really take a step back from surveillance as a whole and create more of a a real regulatory framework for them. They should consider, you know new surveillance Technologies. I mean a big part of this conversation at the time was this group called ion surveillance, which held this rally this week, you know, they they're trying to track the surveillance job. I'm in New Orleans and and it's really hard because these Technologies are being built into more and more stuff that isn't, you know necessarily directly related to criminal justice. So this was a toss-up cities pilot and they were arguing, you know, how in the world could we you know, would we be expected to know that this would mean more surveillance? So that was kind of the conversation at the time they wrote up this ordinance. That was no really thorough and it had some outright bans for certain pieces of Technology like facial recognition and it's set up this really extensive kind of oversight wage reporting system for surveillance technology. So it would it would set up a system by which you know, you would have to submit a request to the city council to add any new piece of surveillance equipment. And if they approved it that would only last for three years, so you would have to come back every three years and and read justify your use of a certain piece of surveillance equipment. There were also annual reporting requirements so dead. It would have been a whole new, you know, regulatory scheme within the government that didn't exist before so that was you know, the ordinance as originally written besides the smart streetlights. What else do they have out there, hundreds of cameras that they own throughout the city that feed into the real time crime Center which was built in 2017 other cameras that feed into that station. We also have a program called sage Jim Platinum, which allows people to connect their private personal cameras to that system and there are like license plate readers all throughout the city. It'd be hard to give you kind of a comprehensive list of all the different, you know surveillance tools in the city. I mean one one reason that's a little hard is cuz there's also disagreement over what the definition of surveillance is and whether that has to be directly related to law enforcement or whether it can be involved in other things. So there's a lot out there where we're, you know, trying to build a comprehensive list, but there's a lot out there. Okay, and you mentioned Jason Williams counseling Jason Williams had put forward an ordinance earlier this year. How is this different or the same as that? Yeah, and and just kind of walk into that was some you know, the the timeline here. So so I talked about that in March meeting where he you know, press pause on that one program. He ended up introducing the ordinance in July off at a committee meeting and it was really it was received with a lot of skepticism from most of the council. I think there isn't a huge appetite on the couch restrict surveillance capabilities as much as there is to expand them. So after that meeting where it kind of got this, you know, pretty flat reception from the council it kind of odd. We didn't hear much about it since you know after that but now we're being told both by Jason Williams office and I am surveillance organizers who helped write the ordinance originally. It's going to come to a vote. On October 15th. Another cheese here is that it's the ordinance that they're going to be voting on is not what they originally wrote. I mean the key difference is that they've stripped the ordinance of the reporting and approval processes that I talked about before which at least in my reading was the real meat of the ordinance and instead it's going to retain a ban on off for specific pieces of of surveillance technology. So that's facial recognition characterization recognition. So that's their software that the city owns that you know, you can put show me everyone who's been on camera today who had a red shirt on or who was riding a blue bike, you know, there's other software out there that claims to be able to track, you know, someone's gay take a walk. Basically. It's it's people have complained that there's there are ways around facial recognition when there's facial recognition band. So that's what the characteristic recognition band would be the other two pieces of Technology. Would be stingrays which are cell site Tower simulators and it's basically something that the federal government I think mostly is used to kind of intercept certain cellphone data off the last piece of surveillance technology. That would be banned by the ordinances predictive policing software. So an example of that you remember famously the city partnered with palantir off a CIA funded tech company to use this this software that that claim to be able to predict people who are more likely to be involved in gun crime. So so awful things are that sort would be banned under this ordinance. So so really we're going from a more, you know from an ordinance that created a regulatory structure to an ordinance that is more focused on Banning for specific types of surveillance technology. Yeah here was you know, just judging from Jason Williams. His public statements is that, you know, five six years ago wage. I know we had no idea that we would be dealing with software the planes to be able to identify people by the way, they walked so five or six years from now. We don't right now. We don't know what we're going to be dealing with off or six years from now. So rather than Banning specific Technologies, it makes more sense to to put a regulatory structure in place and say that we have to go through an approval process every time the ad and you type of surveillance technology what they're doing now instead is just saying, well, here's the existing technology and we're going to ban these specific pieces of existing technology. Okay? Thanks Michael. Thank you Charles. You are standing in this week for our criminal justice reporter, Nick Crystal hearings began this week on whether the city can get out of getting a new jail building to house inmates with acute mental health needs this sort of dovetails with our budget issues that we talked about earlier. What are the arguments the city is making against face Thursday. Okay, so there's two main kind of overriding arguments argument. Number one is that this is just going to cost too much space three is you know, just to catch everybody up. It is off a third building on the campus of the New Orleans jail. There are currently two buildings the two buildings that exist now are the housing building which is the orange Justice Justice Center and they have faith in in the warehouse building. So the kitchen warehouse space one, the housing building is phase two. So hence stays through is the third building and we're phase three would go off is in this empty field that is there between the two buildings that exist and if anybody's been over there before you'll notice that there are you know, sort of Unfinished Bridges From The Kitchen and Tap House and the main jail building that sort of just hang over this field suggesting correctly that some people have have planned for phase three two years. A log base 3 would be used for to house inmates with acute and sub-acute mental health and and medical needs for several years. They've been housed at Georgia State Prison, you know about an hour or so away under an agreement with the state. The state is no longer interested in housing those inmates. So they've got to come back to New Orleans the fact that the city is encountering in the sheriff's department sheriff's office encountering is where to put them what the city would like to do at this point at least is to retrofit a part of the existing jail what off the other interested parties who are all part of the consent decree litigation, which is the jail reform agreement that's been in a place for a long time. Yeah. It's to build Faith now getting back to your actual question. I apologized the two issues here are money and necessity. So the city says this is going to cost too much money. It's fifty 1 million dollar project off. Bass three of that fifty 1 million dollars the city claims that that only thirty-six million dollars would be reimbursable by by FEMA leaving the city just hook for the remaining 15 on top of that the city is estimated that the annual operating costs because a new building is going to require, you know, new Staffing and things like that annual operating costs another nine or ten million dollars a year to the cost to retrofit the second floor of the jail. The city is estimated is under ten million dollars. I'm not sure what the operating costs on that would be them. But the city is saying this call may be much money would save a lot of money with a retrofit number two is is this necessary in the city saying it's not the the current jail has a a bed cab of 1436. It has a a legal limit cap of 1250. Currently we have about nine hundred under nine hundred inmates inside the jail. That's a post-pandemic total image. It's gone down since the beginning of the pandemic even prior to the pandemic. We were you know, somewhere in the the 1000 to 1100 range. So the city is saying that we you know, we have the room and it's also saying that Mental Health Care has improved in the jail as it exists over the past several years according to reports by by the federally appointed monitors and the consent decree. So we just don't need to do this massive project the other parties to the consent to create do not agree with that are saying that it it's impractical to retrofit base wage. These inmates have to be you know, segregated in such a way that the building in the current jail would mean taking a whole lot of beds offline, you know, if we have an increase jail population, we wouldn't be able to handle so that basic argument is taking place in federal court this week on Wednesday a lot of the discussions centered on the theme of money because we know that FEMA wage We know that FEMA is has approved phase three for these funds. What's a question mark is weather and the city is claiming it is whether FEMA is willing to cover a retro-fit of the ignition floor instead of building out a third building and what happened yesterday was the judge who was providing over this hearing said basically said, he was unsatisfied with what the city had to say on that page as to whether FEMA would be willing to to cover this rhetoric that they the city's testimony on that to the effect that that FEMA would be willing to cover it came down to the to the memory of a city employees phone call with a human representative and the judge said that's not good enough and I can't approve. I can't approve your request to suspend Thursdays 3 unless you give me more assurances that that Federal money will will actually be coming into the retrofit of the second floor. So that that was that was pretty interesting mome. So the judge tipped has had a little bit there or showed his cards a little bit there any other indications of how he's leaning if I were to predict it right now. Been mine, we've only seen the cities arguments and the cross-examination of City Witnesses. Thus far it's very possible to the other parties consent decree. We'll we'll get some critical questions from the judge as well. But the the judges who have been involved in the consent decree case to seem to be pretty exasperated with the city over this and because the city has agreed to get going on phase three and in 2019 and Dunn field limit of area work on architecture and engineering for months and months was providing the court with month status updates on how they're making progress on phase three and then suddenly the in June the city decides to pull out of it. You know, I'm not going to make a prediction on this right now, but I would say that I would not be surprised to see the judges deny the city's request to suspend suspend work because they think you know, I think after the city you having having agreed to Begin work on this Thursday. They've become a little frustrated with the back and forth and they just want to see see something bad. Now that gets us into the question of and this is another part of the city's argument wage and whether a federal judge has the power to order the city to to build a building for a jail. There is a provision of the federal law that seems to suggest that that a federal judge doesn't happen, However, federal judges and the other parties the case of sort of made the argument that the judge is an ordering you to build a jail. The judge is ordering you to live up to what you were agreeing to in order to to provide adequate mental health care, which is a requirement under the federal consent decree. I always have to mention this because this this has been a big controversy for many years in part because the city had such a long history of having an overly large Jail jail that used to be able to accommodate seven thousand people and that has left many people. In this city with the distaste, you know understandably for adding new jail infrastructure and adding new buildings to House people in at the jail. And on top of that we're talking about another issue that I think is important to Criminal Justice Reform Advocates, which is the issue of what they would characterize as the criminalization of mental illness. We are building a building in a jailbreak to House people with serious mental illness and you know, a lot of people would say, well, you know, that's that's not what we should be doing with these people. They should be in a Healthcare System. The city sort of fickleness aside there there. There are, you know real criminal justice issues at stake here, right? Charles for Nick. Thank you. Have a good week. This is behind the lens a podcast from the lens New Orleans first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest Newsroom on Caroline heldman. Thanks to our guests this week Marta. Jewson, Michael Isaacs Stein and lens editor Charles Maldonado. You can read all the way in other news along with opinions at our website the lens Nola. Org. Thanks for listening.
Behind The Lens episode 114: The incoherence speaks for itself
"Visits behind the lens. Podcast from the land. New orleans first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest newsroom. I'm caroline heldman on this week's episode. While some students returned the classrooms this week leaders from new orleans public schools joined mayor latoya cantrell to plea with parents business owners and the community at large to urge all students to attend school as attendance continues to be a problem. A us district judge ruled last week that the city of new orleans must move forward with the building of the jail facility known as phase three this week. The city responded with a notice of appeal and a committee of the new orleans city council introduced a measure to restart a moratorium on electric and gas service shut offs by energy new orleans which had expired last summer those stories insight and analysis coming up on behind the words joining me this week education reporter marty juice and hey marta criminal justice reporter nick crystal. Hi nick government and cultural economy reporter. Michael is eckstein. Hi michael and lens. Editor charles maldonado. Hi charles martin. I up in education at a press conference earlier this week. New orleans mayor latoya cantrell nola public schools. District officials pleaded with the community to help ensure students or classes daily as attendance rates. Continue to trend below normal. Some students were back in school at campus. How does this phased in return plan work right so we had this coming after three week. Basically suspension of in person classes in the first couple back the youngest students so we have kindergarten through eighth grade students and mainly are gonna see cater for students who are back in the classroom and high schoolers will be able to go back after mardi gras okay. How what's happening with them. Kovin in schools cova cases can continue to decline in district. And when i say in district it just means students or staff have it. We don't necessarily know how they got it but anyone is associated with the district school and those cases have gone down over the last three weeks. Unfortunately we don't necessarily know if that is because of the closure or because of just kind of a general trend in the country. We talked to dr. Susan hassett is an epidemiologist at tulane university. And she basically said you know. That's not a conclusion that anyone can draw one thing that she said that i thought was interesting was that she said this is something that we're seeing across the country and you know what does the whole country have in common. That's something that she would look for that as a holiday season and now this decline you know a month later so she she thinks it's just associated with people behaving better after the holidays. I would say that. I think we're seeing some pushback on this reopening plan Particularly from teachers who are understandably concerned about about their health in going. Back to in person school contention being In some places that looks like the closure work cases are down in the schools but that could have something to do with it. We don't know because cases are also down citywide and and and around the countries as martyr mentioned. So it's very hard to figure out what's going on with with the small amount that we have. Dr had also worked on a study that looked at cases in schools. And whether or not you know closures actually brought down cases and when they when they did that study the thing that the data point that they used was hospitalizations not literal cases. Were test positive percentage. Which are things that we End up focusing on a lot. I think because those are those numbers i guess. See more these toddler standard giant digest. The district is is still kind of hedging their bets on this. Because they're they're waiting until after mardi gras do a full reopening so they do want to. It does seem apparent that they wanna keep studying the data anise until the next holiday of her right. Really have to wait and watch for that because the two big bumps we've seen in the schools were after thanksgiving after christmas and the winter holiday and then as we now across the country saw big bumps after memorial day after the fourth of july. So luckily we have an interesting situation. Perching right there was a story yesterday on nola dot com that hotel occupancy at sixty percent already. Yeah which is. Which is you know. A remarkable upswing. From where i was earlier in the year when we i remember you know especially early in the pandemic was down in the in the single digits exactly and that say their front page. Yesterday was the big headline was hotel. Occupancy going up and the headline just below it was another spike expected with british of Right railroad right so meanwhile school attendance for those kids. Who are who are attending. Virtually is down and in person. Attendance attendances down. Both it's definitely down system-wide in for virtual and in person students But officials have certainly told us that it is more difficult to get students who are attending. Virtually to actually get to school. Do they actually breakout than the numbers of attendants in attendance declines in in person versus virtual. Or they just is this. Just what they're saying. It's all lumped together. I wish we would do that because that would be really interested to see on. We had one counselor yesterday. Who spoke at the conference. Who said you know every day. I here excuses like a student who missed their homeroom so now they're not locking in but it's only nine. Am you still should be locking in and at the press conference you you wrote about the plea from the mayor to the whole community asking everybody to help. I mean she basically said if their kids who live on your black their to live on your black and you you know you see them during the day out astor. How what can you do you know. How can you help. This student could school whether that would be in person or virtually I think we know allows chance in our community are having challenges whether it's internet access which the district has made great strides to provide. But they're still a issues that happened How can the community help people get to school on monday. We had like a giant internet Across the city ed. I just asked on twitter to this effect. Had teachers respond. Say oh yeah kids in this class today in a paris Say yet by kids remarked. Accent 'cause the internet was out some curiously the the the metrics that i guess like you would normally use in an education. Context for when like absences are a problem or when kids becoming disengaged. I'm wondering if there's any talk about like maybe First grader missing ten days of school. This year doesn't mean the same thing that it might have been different. Maybe parents aren't looking at like a day. A day of school having the same value as used to is that at all parents and educators alike are thinking that they're they are and they aren't thinking that way they are thinking that way in that. This is a pandemic light. Maybe my kid just needs to play outside stem staring at a screen for six hours. And then i would say they aren't necessarily thing that way in terms of we still value education and we want kids going to school but you know this is kind of crisis situation so we're just doing our best to maintain i mean. I think you see that. All the way up to the new orleans police department who was suspended truancy enforcement. Because you can't tell if a kid is on a separate schedule or a synchronous class schedule. The scene can't be enforced truancy efforts and there was something in the story about there was an urging of owners. Please stop using these kids when they should be in school in your business. And that's something. I hadn't heard until that point. I'm curious to learn more about that. Although the other part of that i'm interested in is if you do have a synchronous class gut jewel which means you can basically watch your classes or log on at any point in time than maybe. You can work during the day to high school at night. I'm not. I don't necessarily want that to be the case. But if you're in a tough spot maybe that's why you need to be doing all right. We'll thank you marta. thank you nick. In criminal justice we have some updates About last week's big story the district judge last week had said that the city must move forward with phase three this week. We weren't sure if they were going to appeal but This week they made a decision about that. What's the latest tuesday evening. The city filed. It's not simple appeal to the district. Court judge so they will be appealing that ruling and process. That could take several months to a year to to find out what the appellate court has to say and then meanwhile we found out a little more information about the status of phase three and when city predicts that it's going to be to be actually with a the construction of that facility. So you have kind of a interesting situation right now where the city is is moving forward with construction of facility that they're simultaneously trying to avoid building altogether in the what was their update on estimate of completion so they told the judge at a status conference yesterday on wednesday that they were anticipating about thirty months. Which would put the completion date somewhere in the summer. Twenty twenty three range and that that was interesting because when the city had been providing updates going up until until last summer they had been projecting. The building would be completed in summer of twenty twenty two. The reason for for this new kind of kind of extra year. Delay isn't entirely clear. You know the officials for the city's cited colbrad and the Robust hurricane season the that we had this year as as reasons for the You know there then needing an extra year to this project but it's not entirely clear to me at least what those were those delays or cost but yeah from your reporting. It was interesting at his curious about that on day. They started they kind of got into macroeconomics but they didn't say specifically like what. What is it about the hurricane season for example that would that would stop the work that was going on before because they're not. They weren't in the construction phase during the hurricane. Season in the aren't now There are still in the design and pre engineering phase. Isn't that right. Yes and i watched the syrian and it seemed like something that the judge was sort of hovering around but didn't want to ask directly. Because i just think he didn't say that you know at this point Sprint seem like he was trying to be forward looking But i mean it you know. He said he basically said you suspended. Work this summer and failed to inform the courtroom when you did inform the court. We're here to continue working. And he said it's my understanding that you've been continuing to work this entire time. So when they gave him that. That updated timeline. The last question would have been like. Why if you hadn't been working for only five days. Why why are your long delay. But he didn't really directly asked that question and i kind of think there some some degree of desire in this litigation to to not go back in and argue over Every every little point because his mcdavitt already gone of reference point as far. I've seen cova does not delaying construction. It's been speeded up less complicated. Say the answers that they gave weren't clear so filing appeal doesn't trigger any sort of legal impetus or allowance for them to stop. There's no indication of that that i can see I had been wondering if they may be to try. Try and file some sort of stay of the order. I'm not an expert in in how that would work. And and even some of the the lawyers i talked to said they weren't entirely sure what the process would be if the city wanted to try and stop work on the facility but at least yesterday there was no inclination of that There officials city that we're talking about the time language for it as if that that was what they're planning to do so so we'll see charles. Do you find that interesting. None of us are attorneys here. But i find it interesting that there's this legal battle about whether or not to continue a construction project and it's being appealed and yet it continues on pace. I'm surprised by that. Yeah i mean it it it. It is interesting to me as well. I mean i've seen cases where filing an appeal would would come along with a lot of stairs suspension But you know like like the rest of a year. I'm not an attorney. And even if i were apparently Apparently some attorneys aren't even sure according to next it. It's it's it's an interesting situation all around another thing. I'm not sure how much this inspecting into to the seat dot process but the current status of the facilities right now they. They're about seventy five percent done with the design but they need to go through these two administrative processes One will be bringing the design before the city planning commission and the counsel to get an amendment to the zoning ordinance and then there's another separate fema process and they're anticipating that these processes are gonna take six months so you know they may be looking at these processes as as kind of a buffer. They're not going to actually be digging in and doing construction During that time. From what. I understand so you know if those things smoothly and they're still butting out in federal court when they wanna break ground maybe they'll try and find some way to to delay that in in the court But the other thing. Is that the hearing on on wednesday. The judge was very adamant that they're that they're not any delays. He was clearly frustrated. With how long everything is taking so. I think it's very likely that there's going to be any skirt of approval from at least the district judge for them to stop. Stop work okay. So i actually nip before you were here. I like half acid leave kind of covered this story But the last thing i had written about i think was at the city planning commission so that still has to go back to because they denied it right well so that builder like in theory forever. So what happened. There was that that was really about the temporary detention center. There was language in there about as three full. And we actually. Nick and i went through this a little bit this week in didn't include historic because it's just it's it's too much but basically it's that was bad. Tdc the city planning commission voted that down. The council came up with a compromise and voted through but though that proposal mentioned phase. Three didn't actually phase three which was completely unclear on because the proposal that one that got through council lifted the bed cap and is already zone her prison so i thought that that would allow it to to build a new jail there but apparently there is another provision in the original twenty eleven ordinance that said if you build a new building you have to get another sitting planning commissioner purple separately. Okay so what happens because the mayor can't i mean this is theoretical but the like control can't force the city planning commission to do anything so could the judge hold the city accountable for something that an independent body does yet. I've tried Less of this. This process got started in two thousand seventeen to the city attorney. Basically went in front of the council. Said you're gonna be held in contempt of court if you don't pass this and so i think that there's likely a situation coming up in the next six months where that's going to happen again. But this time it's going to be even weirder because the city doesn't want to build it and so they're going to be bringing this proposal in front of the council that that they don't want to pass but are telling probably would have to tell them that we're all going to be held in contempt of court doesn't pass so yeah. I don't going to be interesting. You're listening to behind the lens. I'm caroline heldman my guest this weaker education reporter marty juicin' criminal justice reporter nick crustal and government and cultural economy reporter. Michael isaac stein along with lens editor. Charles maldonado hi. My name is krystal. Nine the social media manager for the lens our mission is to educate engage in empower readers with information and analysis necessary for them to advocate for more transparent and just governance that is accountable to the public that takes time and it takes resources as a nonprofit. We can on our donations to fund our work. We please consider helping us to do this. Important work by making a tax deductible donation. Now at the lens nola dot org slash donate. Thanks for your support. Okay michael there was a moratorium on shut offs for customers last summer from local utility energy which expired last summer they began shutting off service to commercial customers late last year and they were planning to start disconnecting residential customers this month new orleans city council sounds like at. This point has come riding to the rescue. What's happened there. Yes so this was kind of prompted by january bills on january power bills in in new orleans basically residents across the city saw some really really huge increases on their bills. We're talking about double or triple what people usually pay to the point. You know that it was alarming enough. The council call this kind of special meeting to kind of get together and figure out what was going on. So i think that this was in part a reaction i needed in large part of reaction to that But of course you have the underlying continuing rotavirus virus crisis you know continuing latency of our tourism hospitality industry and so there are certainly other justifications for her for putting a moratorium on this right now in in like you said another part of this is timing. There hasn't been an official moratorium since july thirty first but they haven't been shutting off residential customers but they did announce that starting february they were going to. They started sending out some notifications to customers that were deep in debt. And there has been found out during this meeting you know. They said that tens of millions of dollars in debt has has racked up just in new orleans alone since the beginning of the pandemic it can. I should add that. This is going to include a moratorium on late fees. Now this is new for new orleans. We never had that even in the summer. And actually what we wrote about back in leave it was may or april louisiana public service commission which regulates most of the rest of the state that utilities in the of china. They passed a moratorium on shut offs end on late fees. They also passed a permanent prohibition on testing any late fees on debt that had been accrued during the pandemic seek. New orleans is in covered by the louisiana public service commission were regulated by the city council. So we were never included in those protections Okay a couple of weeks after that they did did end up putting an official on moratorium on but that expire at at the end of july. And it didn't include a moratorium late fees kupuna okay. But this is not forgiveness. It's like rent. It's similar to the run issue right you. You still are going to have to pay at some point. But you're not going to be racking up late fees on it but you eventually will have to pay. So i actually had call from Looney hearted with keep south center for environmental justice on after the article came out. We chatted for a little bit but you know something that she was really pointing out. Was that kind of like what you're saying doesn't actually really fix any problems you know if people are falling into debt if people are seeing bills increased by two or three times and people are still out work you know. This is kind of just pushing the issue further down the road. I'll say that with the city council would say. Is that what they did. Do this on the set up. The city council cared program Which was a program to to give up to four hundred dollars in bill credits to certain customers on the i think the eligibility requirements was that you had to be on unemployment at some time so they did set that up which which i think council members would argue that you know instead of a late fee moratorium. They were helping people out actively with their bills. That premium was never fully utilized. We never really got to the bottom of why there was. I think something like twenty five million dollars set aside for the only ended up spending out like ten or eleven million dollars and the program's been shut down at this point so we're gonna have to keep up with. I've been very interested in what the utility death situation is or has become during the pandemic. And i think that over the next year so we'll get more data and information that will show you know how many people are in trouble in your story. You also talk about the giant increases that some customers are seeing. It's been cold but not that cold. What what's the. What's the explanation for these massive increases. So i think there were a lot of different explanations given a lot of different factors that come together on this. I don't know if we still. I don't know if even now we have the clearest picture on what happened with these bills but i think there were a few things that definitely happened one was that it was an extremely cold monceau. So we're talking about a jump from year december bill to your january bill here So one thing is that energy usage shot up. From december to january part of that is the cold weather And then something to always keep in mind when we're talking about new orleans. Energy usage is that we have a really old house of stock and especially in the winter. A lot of these houses were built to be drafty. And so getting some of these house to heat up or in the summer. Cool down to just take a lot of energy so there was that the billing month in january was actually longer than usual so thirty four thirty five days rather than you know thirty thirty one days. The reason that energy gave for that is that they traditionally go out to meters read. You know what your energy usage is for the month. There was just vacation. Time around holidays so I think every january they said you know that's kind of an extended billion billing period a few other things that happened green gulf nuclear power station mississippi which We own a portion of we own. The rights to a portion of the energy that produces has been unexpectedly. Off-line this year a lot but also in november and december and that contributed to bill hikes as. Well we also saw a couple of new. Charges are bills This winter we saw on the average residential bill people saw six to seven dollar increase. Which will see for a long time. Now do the new orleans power station. The new gas power the gas power plant in new orleans east. And we're all now paying an extra dollar twenty five or so for the new solar station that's been built out in the east so altogether something like eight dollars on came online in november and december for these new power plants. So a lot of things come together. The other thing i want to mention is that there's a portion of this that came from that will be pretty consistent across bills neck from things like the new power plant and the outage of grand gulf. So there's about fifteen dollars increase that you would have seen on your bill. A an average residential customer would have seen on their bill whether or not they change their energy usage at all so to energies. Claim is that we also have fifteen dollar bomb based off of a lot of factors in everything after that was just increased energy usage. The colts net. Yeah i also wonder if people are seeing increases that are maybe higher than previous cold snaps because more people are home during the day and they're turning up the heat a bit more than they would have if they were at work last year. Definitely and so that's actually been a big theme All year is that energy residents. I mean all year have been paying more in energy bills than ever before so you know. Energy has lost a lot of money by their commercial customers for example. But you know we saw on earnings calls. I mean at least in all the ceo of energy you know. He had a couple of lines The residents really came through for us this year. So you lot. And so we've been paying energy costs. Like crazy doe. A lot of that burden has been shifted from you know from employers to employees and everything like that. There were a lot of that. This all has something to do with the new advanced meter. The new advanced meters that energy is installing so these are the meter the traditional meters employees have to come out and every month and read. And see how much power you've been using. This is kind of like the next generation of utility meter. So it can be read remotely and you can read it throughout the month and you can get more Statistics based off of it. And you can do more things like demand response but some people are seeing the correlation between getting their their new meter installed. and these these big bill hikes. I don't think we have nearly enough enough evidence to say whether that's true or not. We just were installing advanced meters throughout the year and people are using more energy now so it might be more of a correlation in 'cause asian. But i think it's worth mentioning because a lot of the public comments Saying i just got this new meter. I thought it was gonna make things better. And now i seen this bill So that's definitely something that will be looking at us. Well okay. that's a good point. Last week we talked about the communications district purchasing of new software for the entire law enforcement system. You have an update on that. What's going on. The crux of the issue. Here is that the author we're talking about is going to be primarily used by the nfl to store their very extensive records on basically with the system is is. It's a cloud based service where you can store all these records and then on top of that. There's all these analytic tools that makes it easier to dig through all that data automatically and with these automated tools rather than manually. Now the reason why we're reporting on is twofold. The first reason is that we're looking at some very powerful software here and there are definitely some surveillance considerations here In terms of how this data is utilized in in how you know. It's it's analyzed and we read about that the the second issue is that the orleans payers communications district is an independent body. A state created body that doesn't function under all the same rules that the city does and now the concern here and the reason why recovering the issue is to make sure that the city is in routing purchases through a a state created agency in order to avoid certain procurement rules so that a little bit further under local laws city is required to do a competitive bidding process for professional services contracts which opec has determined that this is just categorized this Under professional services rather than goods and materials under state law otc actually isn't required to go through this kind of competitive bidding process so because the purchase was routed through pc. They never went through any sort of public. Formal bid process. They weren't required required to by law. Now it gets tricky because although cd is purchasing it is paying the upfront costs around two point. Two million dollars. The annual maintenance costs which is about half a million dollars a year will be paid by the nfl pd which is under the central city government. So what we had previously written about was wall. It seems legal for obesity to do this without a public It was unclear how the city is now going sign a maintenance contract Without going through a competitive bid process in kind of setting up this mirrored scenario where we've purchased the software initially but the city might have had to go through competitive bidding process to get this maintenance contract anyway. There was a meeting of the orleans parish communication district this week They finalized the purchase and basically said that. There's a legal mechanism they can use by. Which city will sign a cooperative endeavor agreement with the communications district rather than a contract directly with the company And they say that this will you know is within legal bounds and won't cross any lines in terms of public bid. Laws called them. I was gonna say charles you theorized that that's how they would do it. I guess i've gotten a couple of reactions of people being well. This is clearly skirting a law. That was set up to prevent exactly this giving the public bid process. You know you read the law and this clearly looks like a way to avoid it. I guess what i'd say. Is you know. I'm not a lawyer. I think through my time reporting with the lands. I think one very interesting thing has been noticing. How laws don't quite have a formal meeting until someone decides it hasn't meaning or that meaning is challenged in court and court rules that it's something different so i think there's some frustration when people think that you know there might be a violation of the law here. Why what's the next step. What happens in. Why are they just allowed to say that. This is okay. I think that this is how it works in more situations than than you might think. And so this is the way. It's going to stand unless someone challenges it in court. Which i you know seems unlikely right. Why might the city of wanted to avoid the public bidding process. It's interesting i Well i think if you're the city in your in the seat of government You trust yourself right. You're not as worried about you. Know yourself being corrupt for yourself. You know having line intent. I think that the public bid process is really important. I think it can also be a huge pain. And i think it can also you know. Sometimes you get really excited about one piece of software but oh one hundred thousand dollars more expensive than this other piece of software that we don't like as much so we're now bound to get this software that we don't like as much because it's cheaper so in case it will if you treat it as a professional service that the cost is only part of the this election process. Basically the logic of a professional service as opposed to a materials did is with the materials been like concrete is concrete right. So you're gonna you're gonna have to go with the cheapest conference vendor with professional service at a lawyer isn't a lawyer right so so cost consideration but it's not the only consideration as suming that someone wants to get around the law. I'm not saying that's what's happening here. One might do it in this case because they like what. This vendor is providing based you know based on what they know but turned that they may not meet some some other considerations that go before the election commitments like maybe for example. They don't have a A minority dvd subcontractor which is a pretty big part of the professional service selection process. So it could be many different reasons. Costs could be part of that consideration as well. Another reason they did. They might wanna put this. Ob cd might not even be related to the public. Good law but more related to money So like i said overseas covering up front two point. Two million dollars on this is gonna cost now because it's a separate agency you know the city. Can't you know claw money from. Abc to pay for something else. So i mean they've been trying to be creative with budgeting this year especially on so it might have just been an opportunity saw where. Oh there's a little bit of extra funding in otc d. And the best use might be something that the media will use but we can't really access that money in that way. The other thing that i wanted to mention that i think is interesting as we're talking about professional services versus you know goods and materials so the prior records management system I it appears it was procured as a good and good slash material in the reason for that is that i think at at that time. We own that software outright and in we store that data on actual servers on actual hardware and. I think that you're seeing a broader trend when it comes to software where it's going to more of a subscription fee service kind of model rather than an actual purchasing model. And you might be. You know you might have experienced that yourself. Noticing that microsoft has moved to an annual subscription model than just buying microsoft office. The same for adobe. Photoshop has been that way. So you know. I do think that there is a broader movement. Here where We're going to start procuring software in ways that are traditional. Yeah i mean it's an interesting point. How moving to cloud based services can arguably changed the nature of the contract whereas before they were using surtees customized. In house these customize in house software system that were just built for the city superior buying a product. Now you're moving to something that's cloud based so you can so so a city yet. An assistant city attorney earn attorney for o. Pc cd can look at it and say well. No we're not buying a product. We're buying a service sighing. A maintenance services or for a cloud based system they were literal investments now The same thing is happening in the schools where now you have to buy an annual subscription to a textbook. What's the timeframe on this thing. How long does it take before they start up. This subscription the an install the software. Start using it. What happened this week. They finalize the financing agreement. For how they're gonna pay for this they're still will need to be a cpa signed between The city and so. I guess that is one more step. But i don't think that I don't think that they're gonna find much pushback. There are there any indication that this make records easier access problem. Great work all of you. Thank you so much. This is behind the lens of podcast from the lens. New orleans first nonprofit nonpartisan public interest newsroom caroline. Heldman thanks to our guests this week. juicin' nick crustal michael isaac stein and lens editor charles maldonado. You can read all the weeks other news along with opinions at our website the lens. no dot org. Thanks for listening.
Along The Gulf Coast, People Are Preparing For Tropical Storm Barry
"Along the Gulf coast people are preparing for Tropical Storm Berry. It's expected to make landfall in Louisiana Saturday morning in New Orleans officials are getting ready for several days of rain and potential flooding Travis Lux from member station W. W. Ano- Reports Daphne. Any spears walked into her local grocery store this morning with just two items on her storm preparation list water in wine staples. Yes that's my staples around the corner of the bottled water. I'll completely wiped <unk> out from the night before except for a fresh new stack of Dasani which she says is too expensive. Okay that would be a no so it's just the wind today spears says she'll get her water elsewhere and is taking other precautions. Actions had a storm like charging electronic devices. She's concerned but not worried right now. It's pretty much going to be a rain event. I think because it's just it's not hitting here directly. It's too early to know just where on the Louisiana Coast Barry will make landfall but New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell says no matter where the storm hits or how strong the winds into being rain and particularly flooding are the main concerns. We do expect that this storm will be slow. Moving what that means that there's a possibility as it's moving slow the we're going to get heavy rainfall for up to forty eight hours it could be. That's going to cause problems all across South Louisiana. Diana but it's really scary for New Orleans. The drainage system here is extremely old struggles to keep up with heavy rains just yesterday. The storm dropped more than seven inches of rain in less than two hours in many neighborhoods cars. Homes and businesses were swamped by several feet of water for now New Orleans officials are not calling for evacuations despite the bigger flooding threat Kasan Corban overseas drainage in the city based on the forecast weather and intensive rain. We believe that you're gonNA. Have a repeat of what happened yesterday. The other big concern has to do with the Mississippi River Levees. There's been historic flooding on the river this year and it's still super high berry is expected to push storm surge up the river and increase water levels by several feet beat meaning the river could spill over the tops of some levees that could happen in nearby plaquemines parish where mandatory evacuations are in place but Brad Grisko with Army Corps of Engineers doesn't see that happening in New Orleans right now our data.
NPR News: 12-14-2019 7PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Janine herbst you. In climate change negotiators are still in Madrid at a stalemate. The meeting was supposed to have ended yesterday yesterday. Now many worry that the talks may be facing failure at a critical time for climate action. Lyndsey Patterson has more the UN summit continues this weekend with with dimming hopes that world powers would take the bold steps necessary to curb the effects of climate change and new draft text released. Saturday was called unacceptable. Oh by delegates who had hoped to see ambitious new goals for slashing global greenhouse emissions. They said it risked moving the Paris agreement backwards just before it started in twenty twenty. Scientists agree that nations will have to step up their commitments in order to keep global temperature rise under a critical threshold for NPR news news. I'm Lindsay Paterson in Barcelona Sudan's former dictator. Omar el-Bashir has been sentenced to two years of detention for corruption and here is eight or Peralta reports on the controversial ruling as the judge in the case began to read his verdict. There was chaos speak to showed supporters of Omar Al-Bashir protesting testing his conviction. They were escorted out by security forces in the judge said he was sentencing Bashir to only two years in detention because of his advanced age but she will also not serve that time in prison but at a much nicer detention facility with access to his family members but she was ousted earlier this year in a military coup is wanted for genocide by the International Criminal Court but sedans new government has refused to turn him over pro. Democracy groups have complained. That state prosecutors are treating Bashir with kid gloves trying him for much lesser crimes. It brought up impair news Nairobi. A state of emergency has has been declared in New Orleans as officials deal with a cyber attack. phishing attempts and suspicious activity were discovered in the cities network yesterday morning prompting the city to power down servers and computers as a precaution officials say ransomware was detected. So far ransom hasn't been demanded New Orleans. Mayor Latoya Cantrell we. We are in recovery mode. There is no evidence of personal data being lost at this time credentials were compromised iced. But again we are now beginning recovery. Cantrell she says she expects the data loss has been minimal. The FBI is joining the investigation. Former Gary Indiana mayor. Richard Hatcher has died. He was one of the first black mayor of a major city when he was elected in nineteen sixty seven becoming a political force worse for African Americans. He organized the Nineteen Seventy Two national black political convention Gary and also served as the chair of Jesse Jackson's nineteen eighty four and eighty eight presidential campaigns. He overcame opposition from the local democratic machine to win his first election. He went on to serve five terms he was eighty six. You're listening to. NPR News those planning to sign up for healthcare using the exchanges set up by the affordable. Hair cat characte. Rather don't have much time left. And here's here's Mary Kennedy. Reports Sunday is the final day to sign up for Obamacare Open. Enrollment for twenty twenty is coming to a close ending a seven week period in which people could enrol or change their insurance plans through the federal marketplace despite changes to obamacare under the trump administration millions of people are still getting their health insurance runs through these exchanges as of last week sign up numbers. This year lagged slightly behind the two previous years. There's typically a big spike in enrollments in the final days before the deadline twelve states in DC have separate exchanges and some of those have extended deadlines California is one of them. That state has reported that more than one hundred and thirty thousand people assigned this year for the first time a sixteen percent increase from last year Mary Kennedy. NPR News Washington in eastern India. Protesters stor set fire to more than a dozen buses and vandalized at least six rail stations today as violent protests against a new citizenship law continues for a fourth day. Today the government says this new law will save religious minorities from persecution in neighboring Bangladesh Pakistan and Afghanistan by offering them a path half to citizenship in India but critics say the law which doesn't make the same provisions for Muslims weakens the secular foundations of India protests have taken place around the the country but they are the strongest in the eastern part where anger against Bangladeshi immigrants has raged for decades. I'm Janine Herbst N._P._R.. News in Washington.
Storm Damage Causes Polling Place Relocations and Power Outages in the U.S. Deep South
"Presented by the salvation army in a year with fewer red. Kettles helped rescue christmas for the most vulnerable to give ask your smart speaker to make a donation to the salvation army or donate at salvation army. Usa dot org storm damage causes polling place relocations and power outages in the us deep south by to dislodge in kim chandler montgomery alabama elections officials in the deep south spent election eve tending to lingering storm damage from hurricane zeta and other storms that damaged buildings or left polling places. Without power ahead of tuesday's election storm damage caused polling places to be moved in louisiana and power companies and election officials scrambled to restore power or make sure generators were available at polling places in louisiana alabama georgia and mississippi election officials expressed confidence that the sites would be operational tuesday. Thousands of voters in southwest. Louisiana will be casting ballots in different locations to stay because hurricane. Laura wrecked their traditional polling sites in late august and they have not yet been repaired across the state in the new orleans area and in other southeastern parishes. Several dozen voting locations will be running on generator. Power because outages caused by hurricanes zeta last week have not been fixed. No polling location will be without power on election day. Louisiana secretary of state kyle art on the state's chief elections officer said in a statement by far the greater disruption in louisiana was caused by laura and southwestern calc shoe and cameron parishes where artisans office provided charts showing locations for ninety five precincts shifted because of the destruction of the category four storm in rural cameron parish. Most voters will be casting ballots at either a local fire station or a neighborhood. Market khakassiya perish has created several consolidated voting sites with most voters in lake. Charles casting their ballots. At two mega polling locations the burton coliseum entertainment arena or the lake. Charles civic center elections officials have cautioned that the mega sites may require longer waits for voters than usual. Some polling sites in southeastern louisiana will be operating on generators to keep machines and lights running because of outages caused by hurricanes zeta which made landfall in the state as a category two storm. The number of voting sites that will require generators gets lower and lower as each hour. Passes and power is restored said tyler bray a spokesman for our office new orleans democratic mayor. Latoya cantrell criticized. The republican led secretary of state's office sunday for failing to fulfill its duty and providing the generators needed for polling sites risking disenfranchisement of voters. But brace at every polling location will have adequate power. He said the generators for voting sites were provided largely by energy. But also some by the state as well already one accused cantrell trying to score cheap political points with her criticism. Louisiana governor john bel edwards. A democrat had asked utility companies to prioritize restoration to voting locations. Even before zeta struck across louisiana mississippi alabama and georgia more than one hundred fifty thousand electric customers outages monday because of recent storms according to the utility tracking website power outage dot. Us and alabama zeta calls damage along a line. Stretching from the southwestern to northeastern counties of the state multiple bama voting places remain without power. Monday but generators will be provided to any that still lack service on election day said secretary of state john merrill merrill would not say how many places were still in the dark. However i can't speak to that it's not important because that number changes every time the number blinks merrill said a spokesman for alabama power so the company has assessed polling locations provided by election officials and is working to ensure that all polling locations in its service territory have power before the polls open tuesday officials in some of the hardest hit counties spent the final day before the election trying to determine just how many places might lack electricity or have storm damage and talladega county. Which has twenty six polling sites chief probate clerk luana patterson said emergency management officials had told her everything is in working condition. I'm not saying everything is perfect. But i'm working on it. She said dallas county probate judge. Jimmy none said all. But one of the county's twenty nine voting places had power back on and state. Emergency management officials were connecting generator at the rural beloit community center. Where normal service had not been restored. They'll have lights and everything so people won't even know they're out none said in neighboring mississippi seven counties had power outages electricity has been restored to all polling places in three of those counties hancock jackson and stone three other mississippi counties have a small number of precincts without power but generators were available in to george and green and supervisors were meeting in perry county to discuss buying generators in georgia. Two or three polling places remained without power. Monday said gabriel sterling statewide voting system implementation manager.
Awaiting experts at coronavirus briefing; African Americans at higher risk for coronavirus; More than 400,000 coronavirus cases in the United States; Navy hospital ship in New York now taking coronavirus patients;
"This is CNN breaking news. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the World Wolf Blitzer in the situation room. And we're following breaking news we're standing by to hear from the experts on the White House Corona virus cast as the US. Jeff fell from the pandemic surpasses. Fourteen thousand with more than four hundred thousand confirmed cases. Worldwide are almost one and a half million cases and more than eighty seven thousand deaths tonight. A New White House model is revising down the number of predicted American fatalities by August from eighty thousand to sixty thousand. Dr Anthony Fauci says one hundred thousand total. Us deaths is not inevitable but there's growing concern about emerging new virus hot spots including right here in Washington DC as well as Baltimore and Philadelphia. Let's begin this hour with CNN. Vic Wadis joining us From Santa Monica California right now. Nick the numbers they continue to rise will the numbers absolutely do continue to rise but within some of those numbers. There is also encouragement. Let's take Santa Clara County here in California. They were seeing cases double every two or three days. That is now doubling every two weeks or more that county was one of the first to adopt social distancing. And they say no question. It is working a glimmer of hope. A model used by the white has nap predicts the nationwide death toll is down about twenty thousand largely due to social distancing but today is a day of New York with very mixed emotions because day after day. The state is still seeing a rise in reported deaths and the number of deaths will continue to rise as those hospitalized for a longer period of time. Pass Away with very sobering to see the increase in death. It's going to be a bad week for deaths and about sixty thousand. Americans are still projected to die early. August right now. We're not even a quarter of the way to that. Grim total and every number is a person a story so nobody has shepherd's daughter Leilani just died aged twenty seven. My husband and I both in the room in in and I was able to hold our babies for last analyst. Smart Baby The new modeling also highlights some regional disparities project two deaths in New Jersey more than doubled to over fifty two hundred projected debts in California down from about sixty one hundred to about sixteen hundred. We're looking very carefully at California and Washington to really understand how they've been able as a community of Americans to mitigate so well a new CNN poll shows the majority of Americans now think the federal government has done a poor job in preventing corona virus spread. It's fifty five percent up eight points in about a week about two weeks ago. The president said this. I'm also hopeful to have Americans working again by that Easter that beautiful Easter Day instead. Easter could now be an dear Saturday projected to see our peak need for beds. Ventilators Easter Sunday reported death projected to peak nationally. More than twenty. Two hundred people. Say Well we'll get to the apex and we're done no. I'd remind people that are getting to the apex. A little bit like going up Everest. Once he gets to apex is still need to come down. The administration also still watching hotspots popping up around the country. We are concerned about the Metro area of Washington and Baltimore. And we're concerned right now about the Philadelphia area and still. We're told there's not enough testing going on. All the lab directors could look in their laboratories. If they have an an avid end two thousand. If they could get that up and running we could double the number of tests that we're doing per day right now. About eighty percent of them are idled over a million test kits sitting ready to run. The federal government is doing more than you know speaking this at a press conference. This is the key to opening us back up again getting these tests online so our antibody tests. The white has says they'll be ready inside two weeks. That is going to be the bridge from where we are today to the new economy people who have been exposed and now are better. Those are the people who can go to work but for now still. This must be our normal. We have recognize. The progress is because people are doing the right thing. You're watching from Jersey. Please stay home and just note on that model. It is a model and it can change. And it is also based on US carrying on with his social distancing through the end of May. That's another seven weeks or so wolf here in Santa Monica to keep us honest. They've put a fence around the park back to you all right nick. Thank you very much. let's go to the White House right now. Our chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta. Joining US Jim. A president trump wants things back to normal as soon as possible but his own experts. Say It's not Not necessarily all that simple. That's right well. Administration officials are developing proposals. Free opening the country. Members of the Corona virus taskforce working into the night last night on a plan to return the country to normalcy but top doctors on the Corona Virus Task Force are warning the US still has a tough days ahead even as president trump says he's eager to help the US with what he calls. Big Bang with administration officials sounding more optimistic about the battle against the corona virus. President trump is already talking about reopening the country. All at once. I'd love to open with the Big Bang one beautiful country and just opened the top doctors. On the government's Corona virus taskforce are being much more cautious warning a return to normalcy. Won't happen like a light switch. The real challenge is if we do. Then try which everybody's talking about now to get back to some degree of normality not turning a light switch on and off. That's not going to happen. But some degree of normality to make sure that we very aggressively and vigorously. Do not allow the resurgence of a case of two or three or ten or twenty. President is all but declaring victory tweeting flattening of the curve as a new model on the pandemic and the US is forecasting thousands fewer deaths than what was predicted just days ago with a new CNN. Poll finding only forty one percent of Americans think the federal government has done a good job preventing the spread of the corona virus and only thirty seven percent. Comfortable returning to normalcy. If social distancing ends the president has settled on a new scapegoat pointing the finger at the World Health Organization. They called it wrong. They call it wrong they really. They missed the call. They could've quoted months earlier they would have known and they should have known W. H. O. Director is pleading with the president to cut it out. Please don't politicize this virus. If you don't want many more bodybags then you refrain from politicizing. It my short messages please. Quarantine politicizing caused. But there are new indications. The president and his team missed the warning signs themselves as a report from. Abc News fines. Us intelligence officials were sounding the alarm that the corona virus was spreading in China as far back as November but the Pentagon receive an intelligence assessment on covert in China last November from the National Center for Medical Intelligence of Dia. Oh I can't recall a George. We have many people that watch this closely fan. The President says he didn't see a memo from his own trade adviser that warned of a costly pandemic back in January. I didn't see him any look for media. Former president. Barack Obama tweeted the. Us Won't be able to shift away from social distancing until there is a robust system of testing and monitoring something we have yet to put in place nationwide taskforce. Dr Deborah Burke. Says part of the problem is that processing machines in us. Labs aren't running the test fast enough right now. About eighty percent of them are idle. There's over a million tests sitting test kit sitting ready to be run now. A members of the Corona Virus Task Force are working on plans to reopen the country. White House officials tell us no date has been set but administration officials are trying the beginning of May as a potential target. One of the big worries though is that sending any signals about a reopening will lead people to relax social distancing guidelines development that could backfire as those guidelines may have to snap back into place. People aren't Putting them into place in their daily lives now as for the economy the dire economic situation that we're all experiencing right now in the US new CNN poll and we can put this up on screen. has found that only thirty nine percent of Americans see the economy right now as being in good shape six in ten Americans. Say It's in poor shape right now wolf. That is up thirty points since last month a staggering spike in the number of people who don't see the economy doing well right now. Yes indeed all right Jim Acosta at the White House. Thanks very much L. Let's check in with some of our correspondents in some other key locations feeling Powerful impact of the pandemic. Brian here in Washington Brian. The Nation is clearly The Nation's Capitol I should say is bracing. That's right wolf. We have word recently that Dr Deborah burks from the Corona Virus Task Force has told lawmakers that Washington. I think we've just lost our connection with Brian. Todd we're going to reconnect with Brian in the meantime. Let's go to New Orleans right now. Cnn's eleven dera is standing by at the city. Where you are has been hit very hard. It has indeed wolf in. It's a kind of a mixed bag of messages once again that we're seeing here the foreign history here fascinating bond Mixed bag of information coming out of New Orleans once again the number of deaths another large spike up to a eight hundred six hundred fifty two And a nine thousand nine hundred. Eighty three people hospitalized so the deaths have jumped up. The number of people. Hospitalized has dropped and the number of people on ventilators has dropped as well so a mixed bag there because state and health officials here in very looking very closely at the number of people on ventilators in the number of people being hospitalized as some of the more indicative measures by which they're following the path of the corona virus here in the state of Louisiana. And this wolf as you know has been state that The issue of African Americans dying because of this virus has been a a very intense focus with more than seventy percent of those deaths accounted for by African Americans. Wolf all right Ed Lemmon New Orleans. Thank you let's go to Detroit right now. Detroit as almost six thousand known Corona Virus Cases Seen As Ryan. Young is on the scene for us right. What's the latest there? Yeah well Tough statewide over almost nine hundred fifty nine people have died from corona virus in this state. Forty percent of those folks who've died are African American a lot of conversation today about protection testing and of course inequity and that's something that the mayor address just today nine years of my life at the Detroit Medical Center. I was running the hospital system. That saw more uninsured more. Medicaid patients and probably more African American patients than any hospital system certainly in the Midwest and we fought this every single day. So how do you stop this? How do you search for that has been the big question? Bus Drivers actually met with America because they lost one of their own one of the things. They're doing inside the buses right now. They're handing out surgical masks to anyone who gets on and they're trying to get that critical P p. e. on bus drivers as well. Wolf. We haven't hit the peak but the numbers are still very high in the state they certainly are Ryan. Thank you. Let's go to Chicago officials. There are making very grim preparations for the number of cases they are clearly about to increase. Omar Jimenez is joining us. Omar there's a surge of death in Chicago. What's the latest yeah? We'll Chicago's Cook. County is now officially acquired a refrigerated warehouse that can potentially store more than fifteen hundred bodies. They gave us exclusive access today as they work to get it operational as quickly as possible which they expect to do by tomorrow and the Chief Medical Examiner it tells me they expect to receive bodies within a matter of days as they went from ten to twenty a week just a few weeks ago to now an average of forty a day putting them very near capacity. Now another need we are seeing in the city of Chicago is a need for more data specifically in regards to demographics Chicago Department of Public Health putting out number showing that just under seventy percent of the krona virus deaths here in the city of Chicago are black chicagoans despite just making up thirty percent of the population why they've put in place in order working with the hospitals here in the city to put out an enhanced the data that we are already seeing to include demographics so that the city can better track a crucial component of this ongoing chemicals. Are thanks very much. Jimenez in Chicago for us as we await the experts that today's White House. Corona virus taskforce briefing. We're joined by the New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell and the American Association President. Dr Patrice Harissa. We're GONNA have a lot to discuss. I need to take a quick break once we come back. We'll talk. Lots of news going stay. You're about to seize your Keel. O.`Neil like you've never seen him before the show about my life just because I have more than the average guy doesn't mean I'm better than the average all new Thursdays at nine on. Tnt pictures coming in from the White House briefing room you can see. It's pretty empty right now. But eventually we're going to get the the briefing will start. We'll have coverage of that. We're waiting for the experts to show up. In the meantime we're joined by the New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell of the American Medical Association. President. Dr Patrice Harris. Thanks to both of you for joining us. I want to get right up. Air Cantrell to New Orleans right now as you know obviously better than anyone. It's become a hot spot for this. corona virus. What are your cities healthcare providers and residents facing this week? Well what we continue to face This week is Ensuring that our health providers are receiving the PP necessary as there on the front lines. We're seeing Increase testing we're testing More in the United States actually second to Iceland so we've seen an increase in case but at the same time We see that are curve getting closer to that curve and that our social distancing our social mandates. They're working but we need to hold the line and to just stay focused by staying at home you know. These are critical days right now. People should not let up at all. Dr Harissa we've spoken several times. We are seeing a rather troubling trend right now. Emerge in Corona virus desk. There seems to be in the United States rather significant racial disparity wire African Americans at greater risk. Well good to be back with you wolf and certainly these numbers are troubling and I want to say I'm so glad at least we have these numbers. We certainly to get these numbers from all states. And not only collect these numbers but disseminate these numbers so that that governors and mayors can know what to do so I think there are three main issues that are driving these numbers and I want everyone to know. It's not that African Americans are more prone to be infected but it's really built on a foundation of already existing health inequities and some of the diseases that make Folks more prone to more severe consequences. Such as diabetes and hypertension of course Disproportionately Affect African Americans other communities of color and so now we are seeing that play out and covert nineteen the other issue after. Think about the jobs A lot of the jobs the majority of jobs those essential workers those workers that are continuing to go to work so that those of us who who have the privilege of working for home have a significant number of folks and say they are being Exposed there and finally misinformation. I shared that I spent the first two weeks of this pandemic dispelling rumors that African Americans could not become infected with covert nineteen. So those are three of the the huge issues that are driving. These numbers are important. Points indeed American trial in your state of Louisiana about thirty three percent of the population is African American but seventy percent of the people Seventy percent of the people who have died in Louisiana from corona virus are African Americans. I'm sure you're sensitive to this as well. So what are you doing to address this disparity in New Orleans and the rest of Louisiana for that matter as well sure well first of all you don't wait into a disaster to focus on the health disparities that exist within your community and the state of Louisiana. Yes African Americans. Make up thirty three percent of the state but sixty percent of the city of New Orleans. We stood up a center for Health and Health Disparities at Xavier University of Louisiana. Because we understand right that these disparities exist but we have to be laser focused on our people who are dying and not only that in terms of five times the national average from dealing with chronic illness. What we're witnessing here. Is the intersection really between The impact of race gender Wage inequality Health disparity in terms of access to quality care and even as relates to maintaining physical health and wellness. So it's across the board. These are issues that we've known exist but it really is time to meet people where they are and provide them with the access that they need to be well and I have to agree with with Dr Hair. She's white on one of the issues that I had to address With dealing with this pandemic is getting to my community and letting them know that. Hey this is not a disease just for white people that black people can can get this disease and so I had to have faith leaders and neighborhood leaders present to get that across to our people because at the end of the day. Disproportionately we know that African Americans are suffering not only from this disease pandemic but for any disaster. That comes our way so we have to do better really important point. Dr Harris related issue. Can you explain? Why testing both the virus and for antibodies is key to making communities. Safe Right now. Testing is so key and we have to make sure that the test are equitably distributed to all communities and we have to make sure that not only the tests that shows disease but as we Develop the tests. That shows the antibodies. We need to make sure those tests are available in communities and that members of communities who are disproportionately impacted really. All Communities. Need Access for instance. Some things we don't normally think about is if there are very few testing centers transportation which is one of those social determinants of health. could limit access to those testing so once we get Testing in the communities a good penetrates. Then we know what we are dealing with and really than we have the data to move forward regarding The next step so I encourage everyone to really focus on making sure not only. We are manufacturing the tests but those tests are getting out to the communities hospitals community centers clinics. Fqhc's and physicians offices So that we know the full penetration of the disease. Were grateful to both of you. Thank you so much For joining us. Dr Patrice Bayer until you Cantrell. Thanks very much And to our viewers stay with us once again. We're waiting for the experts at today's White House. Coruna virus casts first briefing looking. Live pictures coming in from the briefing room. We're also following new worries that more. Us cities including Washington DC. Baltimore and Philadelphia could become corona virus hotspots. I'm Tony Shibani and I'm Aubrey Edwards. And we've got brandy roads on a e W unrestricted dusty was the first to tell cody. Hey this new girl. She's really cool. You should check her out Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and. It was like right over his head. Listen and subscribe to eighty w unrestricted four free wherever you get your podcasts for the experts the White House Virus Task Force To start that briefing. Once the experts are there. We'll go there. Stand by for that in the meantime. I want to go to Brian. Todd here in Washington DC. Brian we're told today that The the nation's capital is bracing for the impact of the pandemic and could be one of the next hot spots. Unfortunately I think lost Brian. Todd were technical issue there. We'll try to reconnect with Brian down the road. In the meantime I'm joined now by the epidemiologist Columbia University professor doctor. Jeffrey Schoneman Dr. Shane thank you so much for joining us. The White House has cited your models as it predicted the trajectory of the virus and a new model predicts thousands fewer deaths maybe sixty thousand by August. That's horrendous that's awful. But it's done from about eighty thousand an earlier projection does this new projection mash match the data that you're studying as well. It does Wolf. You know the reality is all these projections that you've been hearing are within the realm of possibility the situation we're dealing with very fluid and so much of the outcomes really depend on what we do. What type of steps? We take a society to social distance to isolate to figure out how to wash this curve. Get these cases reduced alleviate the strain and stress on our hospital systems and figure out how to return our economy to normal without. Actually inducing more infections right now in the United States more than fourteen thousand deaths even with these projected lower number sixty thousand by August. We're still talking about a devastating loss of life mothers and Fathers Sons and daughters brothers and sisters. It's hard to see this as good news. Isn't it I absolutely agree? It can't be understated in some sense. The number is almost. Don't matter because the magnitudes are large no matter what the projection we see. We've already suffered a tremendous amount of mortality at this point. The question that we try to do address with these projections is how well are we doing? What does this say about what we might do? Better in the future. Have we maxed out our capacity to social distance and flattening quashed the curb? And how do we actually go back to returning to some sort of normal economy? We really need to use these rejections as guidance for what we might do in the future and how we have to modify behavior going forward besides continuing to social distance. Can Americans do something else to ensure that the death toll is lower than the White House initially projected? You know. We don't have a lot of tools in our arsenal normally. We would love to have a therapeutic or an effective vaccine available but it takes some time to develop that particularly for a virus like this which we really don't have the experience developing therapeutics and vaccines so we're limited to work all non pharmaceutical interventions. These other things that we hear about the isolation quarantine social distancing I would certainly encourage people to also wear face masks I would encouraging telecommuting for the communities and the people who are capable of and I would encourage the idea and understanding that we need to do this and we need to work together so that we can keep those that distance from each other and we can minimize the opportunities for transmission of this virus as far as face masks are concerned. Dogs face coverings. Would you recommend that everyone who leaves his or her home? Where one no matter where they're going outside. Well look obviously we have a face mask shortage. And we need to provide those for a healthcare workers the first responders who are dealing with the surges in places where particularly number environments. They're getting overrun right now. But people hand fashion facemask Saddam materials. At home you can build them yourself. You can use scars. You can use BANDANNAS. The reality is this virus has potentially multiple modes of transmission can be by droplet. It can be aerosolize where it's airborne and people inhale it or it could be accumulating on surfaces spray that comes out of our mouths when we breathe when we speak and when we cough some of that can land on services. And that's why you WANNA wash your hands the facemask particularly if you yourself are infectious often. We don't know that we're infectious at the time. Because there's pre-symptomatic shedding and many people only experienced mild or asymmetric infections throughout the whole life course there infectious period. Those people don't know they're shedding the virus and by going out wearing a mask. You're protecting others as well as protecting yourself. Potentially it's really good advice. Dr Sherman thank you so much for joining us. Thanks so much for what you're doing. We're we're grateful to really appreciate it. Thank you my pleasure will. Well thank you. Were coming up. I'll speak live with the captain of the US a Navy hospital ship treating patients corona virus patients in New York City. Right now. We're also waiting to hear from the experts at today's White House. Corona virus tasks worse brief. Much more. Right after. This defaced world on my own Tracy. Morgan is back aloe rough around the edges and tiffany. Haddish is back but we support one. Another everything's GonNa be okay the last. Oh Gee own Tuesdays at ten thirty nine thirty central on. Tbs The Pentagon says the US Navy Hospital Ship Comfort is now treating Corona virus patients the commanding officer the ship. Captain Patrick Amherst is joining us now. From the ship captain. Thanks so much for what you're doing with the men and women aboard the comfort are doing. We are all grateful to you and as you obviously well no the your hospital ship has has been tasked out with caring for Corona virus patients in New York. That was not the originally stated plan when you deployed to New York. Do you have the supplies needed to care for the critically. Ill Corona virus patients originally. You're gonNA take patients who didn't have corona virus to free hospital beds in New York City. Yes that is correct You know we are missing. Change which is okay. The bottom line is we came to New York to take care of New Yorkers and we will do that so we have actually already taken one patients that are grown positive and they are getting outstanding. World-class hair We've made extra efforts against assure that the crew remain safe and away from the threat as much as possible. Won't we've actually separated ship in zones of the fax systems and the way that the ship is designed allows for some actual physical separation between the hostile units and the rest of the ship which will be beneficial to improve overall. How many corona virus patients are now on board? I take it. You have beds for about five hundred potentially. Is that right Dennis correct? I don't know the exact number of comedy that corona positive. I know that we have a little less than eighty or more at this time and we continue to take admissions from the city. You have enough ventilators at this time we do. We have no alighted layers. We also have enough of those critical supplies necessary to take care of that. What do you need now because I want to make sure that the patients obviously are well treated but I wanna make sure the crew that the doctors the nurses the medical professionals? They're safe from this highly contagious virus. How you dealing with that absolutely so again or following the CDC guidelines We are hearing to the strictest practices related to use of handwashing social distancing which We've actually been able to move some of the direct clinical care staff to a local hotel to keep them away from To open up some of their social visiting decompressed the birding and did where messy eating areas where the congregate so we're taking every every status in making sure that we protect our from from the virus. And I know there's about a thousand members thousand sailors and Marines aboard your ship How many have already tested positive for corona virus? I had heard one or two but I I. I've actually got an update from your shirt. We've had one crew member that it has tested positive. And they are doing fine. Actually so they are recuperating haven't set separate from the rest of the crew the individual in question actually had never been around any of the patient's care for and minimal contact with the crew. So they're doing fine and we're hoping for a speedy recovery recovery for the individual. We certainly are. How long do you anticipate captain that you'll remain in New York City Wolf? We're going to be here. As long as the mission continues of bright outstanding care to the citizens of New York and take care of our crew in the process. Our goal is to do the best we can while we're here for the maximum number to care for and get everybody home safely. What was impressive. Is the fact that you were able to leave Virginia and get up to New York so so quickly originally was supposed to be two or three or four weeks a few days? How did he do that was truly a team? Effort will be the civilian mariners. The military command the Norfolk naval base. And of course. The crew made all the difference to ensure the ship raised. Only got up here and it just to be safe while you have everything captain that you need right now to deal with this mission we do. We have the The P. E. required you have occasion to require and we have a most importantly a motivated staff in which to accomplish the goal even last night we had an opportunity to to release some of the pressure on local hospitals. They were having some issues of their infrastructure. So we took one ten vincent patients or ventilated nations right into our ICU. And just a short amount of time. That helped that hostile out. So that's what we're here to do and we'll do that and so we're ordered away and you have potentially room for five hundred corona virus patients so hopefully you won't need to deal with five hundred. Let's hope it doesn't happen but I know that everyone in New York. Everyone around the country is grateful to you and the men and women aboard your ship. Thanks so much for joining US SOCK. Cap Amherst Bacher. You will appreciate it. Thank you and you're gonNA see the number of the right of your screen. Global Corona virus cases have just passed one and a half million when we come back our own doctor Sanjay Gupta he standing by to answer your questions about Corona virus. We'll be right back in response to the corona virus outbreak. Our industry leaders thinking about the long term health of their business. How are they ensuring the wellbeing of their employees and what can they do to maintain the trust and credibility of their customers in this time of crisis? I'm poppy harlow in for the next several weeks. My show boss vows going to bring you those conversations with business leaders who are navigating some of the toughest choices they will ever have to make for their business and their employees look for new episodes of this boss file special series every Thursday. I hope you'll join us. So we wait to hear from the experts on the White House. Run by risk task force. I want to bring in our chief. Medical correspondent Dr Sanjay Gupta Sanjay. Thanks very much for joining us We have a lot of questions from our viewers. They WANNA ask you. Let me get right to the questions. Here's the first one. Should I ask for Corona Virus Antibody Test Yeah I think the answer to that is going to be. Yes but it's not gonna be widely available as of yet There's one company I believe that emergency authorization from the FDA to start administering these tests. There's a lot of other companies out there My colleague Elizabeth Cohen has been reporting on them But many of them are not FDA APPROVED. So you got to be a little careful. Make sure that if you do pursue this antibody test that It's one of the ones that at least approved under the authorization from the FDA wolf you know but just to reiterate the antibody test is not looking for the virus It's looking for the response to the virus in your body. If you've been exposed to the virus your body makes these. Antibodies to help. Fight the virus. If you have these antibodies. It means two things one that you've been exposed and you've maybe recovered from the infection sometimes. you don't even know it. A lot of people have minimal or no symptoms wolf. The other thing That it means is that you could probably be immunized now to this because you have the antibodies. It's very unlikely that you would become reinfected. We don't know that for sure because we're only a few months into this but that's what it's looking like so I would you know if it were available right now wolf to me easily. I would get the test. I would want to know if it were keywords. If it were available right now easily It's not yet as easily. Here's another question. We have from a viewer. Are there certain pre existing conditions that make it more like leap to have serious complications? If you could track corona virus yeah we talk about these vulnerable populations of people. I'm you know you've heard that the elderly people are more vulnerable and people with conditions including heart disease diabetes lung disease and hypertension are are for that are always mentioned. There are a few others that puts you at increased risk as well A couple of points one is that you think about your body's ability to fight pathogens aside from Krona Virus Wolf. Your body may offended off several pathogens. Today we all do on a regular basis. If you're if you're immune systems weakened it becomes harder to fight off those pathogens including corona virus. That's why these pre existing conditions but you at higher risk but wolf. You Know I. It's worth reminding people that even if you're not elderly and even if you don't have these conditions you still have to take these precautions. We are hearing of younger people who are not only getting infected but getting quite sick At one point in this country twenty percent of those hospitalized were between the ages of twenty and forty four so the same precautions that you talk about that. I talk about on a daily basis. Really apply to everyone. Stay home and behave like you have the virus. It's really important advice. I got another question from viewer. If you need to be hospitalized how should you prepare for your stay? Yeah Most people again will not need to be hospitalized. Thankfully you know what the statistics are that about. Eighty percent of people eight out of ten people Will have more. They may have more moderate illness. I don't want to say that it will always be mild. You know we're seeing what our colleague Chris Cuomo is going through. He is home. He doesn't need to be hospitalized. But it is a significant illness and people. So I don't want to minimize it. But a smaller percentage will need to be hospitalized and an even smaller percentage will need to go to the ICU. If you think you need to be hospitalized definitely call ahead because they need to put you in isolation and also you're likely to be there for a while these average hospitalizations wolf have been quite long a couple of weeks. He's probably GONNA WANNA facetime or have some way of communicating with your family. So think about those things ahead of time as well. Good advice from Sanjay Gupta I dr Gupta standby we're GONNA have a lot more out with you and to our viewers to find out how you can help and how you can get help during the corona virus outbreak of visit dot com slash impact. And you can impact your world. We're GONNA hear from the experts at the White House. Run BY RISK TASK FORCE. A has the number of deaths. Dow surpasses fourteen thousand.
Chicago Nurse On Caring For COVID-19 Patients; Ethical Issues Raised In A Pandemic
"From NPR and WBZ. Jeremy Hobson. I'm Robin Young. It's here and now. Senators are back in Washington today. House members don't think is safe quite yet. Congress has already approved trillions of dollars in economic relief but the big decisions about reopening the economy being left to governors and in some cases mayors. So let's bring in the mayor of New Orleans where as many as one in four workers have lost their jobs and in Orleans parish alone more than four hundred have lost their lives joining us. Now is New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell mayor. Welcome thank you so much for having me well and right now your stay at home order is set to expire less than two weeks from now on May Fifteenth. What are you going to need to see from the data to actually ease restrictions at that point? Well One is absolutely Saying a decline in new cases in which we're starting to see that But we are developing our benchmark in regards to what that needs to look like for the city of New Orleans specifically As well as increased testing capabilities a while we have been testing here about six percent on a range of six percent Of all of our residents here which is very high. We want to be at a place where we can maintain and even expand that level of capacity because we will have to effective contact tracing And it doesn't happen without an increase percentage of tests being available and readily available so that we can Really box the virus in while we have been living in an environment where the virus has had us. But you know boxed in meaning at home and as we look to shift towards reopening it has to have a strategy to where we're able to identify who that contact tracing immediately be able to isolate Corentin to box in that virus so we do not get back to community spray it in when it comes to. I'm sorry to interrupt but when it comes to contact tracing your your state has announced plans to hire seven hundred contact tracers but according to NPR's reporting that would get you only about halfway to the number of tracers that the state of Louisiana would need to start reopening right also understand this as relates to contact tracing. It's not just something that government have to do or has a responsibility to do. If the businesses themselves that will also contribute to the responsibility of contact tracing they will know who comes to their establishment. They will have to be able to identify and traced and help us box in and to prevent community spread so the thought that contact tracing is solely government Lead is a fath- narrative. I don't see how government Who Plan itself in every business Throughout I know the city of New Orleans and it just that's that's That's unrealistic so It's going to have to. We're going to have to build a robust contact. Tracing strategy that incorporates not only government but the businesses themselves that are wanting to back up. Okay and how much pressure would you say that? You're at this point to reopen. Because New Orleans when into the pandemic with the country's highest unemployment rate and since the pandemic began economists estimate the state's unemployment rate is about twenty five percent. Are you under a ton of pressure just to reopen now? Oh Yeah I've I've received some pressure some pressure points that hit a little over two weeks ago but was able to counteract very quickly As not being bullied you know about. It is going to be driven by the data and not the date and so with that temperatures have had somewhat cooled down and also with the realization that contact tracing is not just something that government led that there is a responsibility of the businesses. That are pushing To reopen so. I've kind of shifted a little bit of their thinking. In terms of turning the map around a bit and having them focused on what their contracts con TAC tracing plans will be and also how government would be able to hold them accountable to those plan because again the idea and the need is to prevent community spread. And that's something that were coming out of not something that we want to go back into because we will have to shutdown again mayor just just thirty seconds here but how does this compare to Katrina in New Orleans during Katrina. It was something that happened specifically. Not just in New Orleans so with Hispanic it's worldwide it's global and it's the United States being Really the focal point It also expanded the focus on disparities in health disparities that are prevalent in urban environments in our urban cores across the United States of America during Katrina The laser and the focus was just on New Orleans plane. That is the mayor of New Orleans. Latoya cantrell mayor. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you so much well to Belgium. Now which is lifting some of its locked down restrictions as infection rates decline. But this small country has been hit hard by Cova nineteen nearly eight thousand deaths. And they've been using new technology to help with social distancing Ram bit a company which focuses on the maritime industry has created a wristband. That's being worn by dockworkers in the port of Antwerp. John Clemens is rom bid CEO. John What does this wristband do? Hey Robin thanks a lot for having us. Oh the wristband will keep people safe of the issue is that there. Is this new economy. The one point five meter. I think you guys say the six feet economy where people want to be kept away from each other so that they cannot stretch the Vitus further. The keeps people from each other and still working safe. Well because what it buzzes. When workers get too close to each other correct the vibrates and the closer you get the harder it starts to vibrate and when you go back to the SAFE POSITION. It stops vibrating. Now Look we know you've already created responds for port workers and they wear them in case of a hazard or to keep them out of certain zones in that last one John. It sounds like you know a dog collar that Oh when they get too close to the invisible fence. They can't pass it. Isn't that same technology for the workers to keep them out of a maybe more dangerous work zone? Yeah and that's exactly how we came. We came to this idea. We were creating geofencing type of solutions to keep people in or out of certain zones. And that's why we had already the base technology in a record time of a couple of weeks. We adjusted our software to make sure they're going to work safely again. Well we've of course are thinking that this technology has been used for people under house arrest. They have ankle bracelets. They can't take off or in South Korea. Which has been terrific at tracking citizens with covert nineteen? There's a bracelet they wear to see if anybody's left their quarantine if they've been asked to go into quarantine so some serious uses for this technology but you know what. I mentioned that it sounds like a dog collar. Have you had people object to this notion that they're treated you know kind of like animals that are confined behind an electric fence and people are capable of keeping six feet away from people? Yeah so I WANNA put one one thing straight. How are we? There is no way that people are being tracked from a location perspective per se so we have communication between the different bracelets and those bracelets themselves do not communicate position. That is no radio technology whatsoever to communicate outside of the Because I agree with you. Things like privacy as you know Europe. Take those things very seriously and of course we would never have had even a possibility to go with this kind of solution to the market if there were privacy concerns so we don't think those things very light but you know yeah and I hear you and we WanNa make that clear. There's an old gathering of information here but but what about that notion that people are being zapped? I mean it does have a whiff of treating people like animals and I'm wondering if people are thinking we don't need this. We can make these decisions ourselves. Yeah of course the last thing they WANNA do is treating people like animals. We talked to a lot of workers and they say it listened. When we get into the swing of things we might forget that safe distance kind of new way of working. And that's why they say it it actually is going to help them especially in the first couple of days couple of few weeks. Stay safe while working. And we believe that over over a period of time. They will keep a safe distance naturally. Well WE UNDERSTAND YOU'VE received requests from five hundred companies and nearly one hundred countries. So do you see it being used? Let's say you pick one up when you go into the supermarket and just slip it on. So you don't have to think about social distancing when you're shopping we actually created this device for workers in a in a more business environment. Of course we get these requests. Can we handle those? Yes we could. We WanNA give priority to those companies who can also use the bracelet for safe working under a crane for example in a board environment if people WANNA create these geo fences around a bracelet so that people can work in safe environments and. That's why we are working first with companies who can use it in that perspective versus only for social distancing What a great great idea. There John Botha's months the CEO of Rom bit the Belgian Tech Company. That's developed this wristband to help workers see when they've come too close to another worker. We'll have a picture for you here. Now Dot Org John Thank you. You're very welcome. Thanks for the Opportunity Robin and have a great day own. I love to scroll through my twitter feed I feel privileged to be made privy to such an outpouring of humanity and recently a tweet with a photograph of a beautiful but tired looking young woman. Her face covered in welts stopped me in my tracks. Both my patients died today. She wrote back to back codes. My face hurts but my heart hurt worse. Her face was bruised by her N. Ninety five mask. Her name is Dominique pure wrote and she joins us from Chicago and Dominique. I'm so sorry. Could you tell us as much as you can? What happened that day? Well so I actually ended up at this hospital Through a sort of relief corps that the State of Illinois has created called Illinois helps. I knew that it comes with risk but for me I'm single. I don't have any children so I figure there are people that are really do want to help. But they're afraid of you know bringing the infection home to their families which I completely understand so I don't really have that concern. It's just me and the dog So I figure if I could sort of be someone that could take the place of someone who was afraid because of those reasons I just wanted to be as helpful as I can during this. I know there's been a huge outpouring of people who are working neighborhoods and helping with groceries and trying to support our other essential workers who are not just hospital workers So I signed up for Illinois helps to see if they could be direct me to hospitals that were in greater need and these patients are sort of the sickest ones and things happen. Very quickly So you know morning Was the first one and was not expecting it at all The team that I'm working with is great. Unfortunately we could not save that person and Probably half an hour later The other one so it was just a very overwhelming day. There's just not time to process things because you know after a person dies we have to. Do you know our post mortem care. And for these particular patients that carries a little more intense just for infection control purposes. So it it was. It was a long day. Yeah Oh you know so many things here. It sounds like you're thinking something slipped through my hands right now but are you also thinking. This is someone else's family. I mean they're not there. Oh absolutely yeah yeah. Yeah Yeah I mean that's the worst part about all of this actually is that These patients are alone. And it's just me so When type of thing happens you kind of have to Walk that line between being their caregiver and being a family member. Sorry it's just hard yeah You know we hear about nurses go out on social media and say you want us to give us send me a picture all bring it. Do you feel you have to do something We Are you know showing them cards at their families have sent or pictures or trying to face time with family which has been really helpful for everybody. So it's a little bright spot and all the craziness. Yeah I'm thinking of that moment. I mean you're not a priest you know but yeah sure you like have A. I don't know just something to acknowledge that moment Yeah you just try to kind. Hold their hand and wait for you. Know the maters to turn off and sort of Be Gentle and As carrying as you can to hear you say to hear you say what you just said. I'm sure that meant so much to so many people to know for them to know you hold their hand. I mean that's what I would hope someone would do for my family. If I couldn't be there okay. Look we're hearing the toll it's taking and you'd be. I'm sure be first to say. Don T deflect it to the patients the families but I. I have to ask where sure you've heard of Dr Lorna Breen. This is the top emergency room doctor. New York who both worked in the emergency room and then was a victim of covered. Nineteen you know. She took her life. Her father said there was absolutely no sign. That hers needs to be a story about the whole cove in one thousand nine hundred takes both the disease and then the people working around it the PTSD that health workers are going to have maybe already have. We will never know what happened with Dr Green. But I'm wondering how that story resonated with you and your colleagues my condolences to her family. That's so awful I remember seeing it. Come across the screen in the break room and we all kind of just nodded like you know like all kind of understand the weight of it. I mean we all have experienced death in our careers. That's not something that we're strangers to. This is A lot more intense and lot more. I guess furious like it just feels like I'm from the Midwest so very familiar with storms and tornadoes and to me the best way to describe it. Is that like roar that you hear and a Tornado The impact of this illness a nurse brought the country split right now places of opened. There are people who haven't seen it at all. What would you want them to know? Well it's been really frustrating for me to see. There have been a lot of people some of my family included that live in. You know more rural parts of the country that are. It's not as bad as people are saying it's a hoax. It's this it's that at first you know I would try to engage and maybe try to educate them a little bit. I don't know I mean we've just gotten to a point where people are either on one side of the line or the other but we just don't know enough. You know three weeks ago when I started this job everybody was on hydroxy. Chloroquine and then the Literature came out to say that that is not helpful. And May in fact be harmful so no one's on hydroxy chloroquine. We have to have a way to treat these patients consistently that works. And we just don't have that. I mean we definitely are doing everything that we know how to do which is called supportive care which basically just means that we support your body with IV fluids and IV antibiotics and maybe a ventilator. So that your body can maybe get better on. Its Own. But we don't have. There's no miracle cure for this nurses need. What's the best thing that we can do for you all know? Gosh I've heard thank you more in the last probably three months than I have in the nine years a nurse but there are so many other people that are involved in this environmental services and respiratory therapy and pharmacy and physical therapy occupational therapy people that help us do our jobs so they definitely deserve just as much recognition The thing that we would appreciate most is for people to listen. Like don't argue. Don't try to prove me wrong. Like I. The thing that has been the most disheartening is. How many people are just accusing me? And My colleagues of lying and I think that happened to you. That happened to you after you posted this. Oh Yeah I'm there are several comments. Where people are you know. I'm a liar and this is a hoax. And you made this up for you know Internet clout. It's just Frustrating when people try to just smudge me by saying that that because they didn't experience what I did or they weren't in the room with me or they couldn't video record me that I must have made it up and I just wish that people would when a physician or a nurse or respiratory therapists or whoever who is in the hospital every day taking care of patients and taking care of covert patients Says you know. Please stay at home. Please wear masks. Please limit the amount of times you go out. Please don't sit in circles with your neighbors. You know I know that it's hard. It's been hard for me is hard for everyone but really those are the only tools that we have left to try to slow the spread of this and too slow enough that we can figure out how to manage it. I just wish that people would listen buzz. Really that's what people could do That's nurse Dominique Perrault in Chicago Tweeting recently about losing to patients back to back and we wanted to listen to what her experiences like Dominique. Thank you so much. I wish you all the best. Thanks so much for having me and if you have nurse you'd like to thank maybe this one leave a common dot. Org this is here now from NPR and WBZ. I'm Jeremy Hobson today. Fashion Retailer J. crew filed for bankruptcy protection after reaching deal to restructure debt. With its lenders. It is the first major retailer to take this action amid widespread business shutdowns across the country for more let's go to Jill Schlesinger business analysts with CBS. News and host of Jill on money. Hi Jill Hello so J. Crew barely escaped from filing for bankruptcy back in two thousand seventeen. Why are they in such trouble? Well I think the most important part of your intro was the debt. So J. crew carries one point six five billion dollars of debt and that actually resulted from a previous transaction. Essentially the company used to be a publicly traded company. It was then taken private and in order to take a private the equity group. That did that borrowed money and all of this debt has been weighing on this company year after year 2017. They almost filed to get relief from that debt but did not and as a result. Now what they're doing is they're taking the debt and they're turning it into ownership or equity. So what will happen to the J. crew stores when businesses are allowed to reopen well? I think what's really interesting is that we don't know first of all that in chapter eleven. What they're hoping to do is renegotiate. A lot of these deals come out of bankruptcy but we don't know how many stores will survive so there are one hundred eighty two different Locations for J. Crew. There's another one hundred forty made wells which is another part of this family and one hundred seventy outlets of the J. crew brand. I don't know how many of these stores are going to make it back and I think that they're going to have a smaller footprint. We don't know which ones will survive. And which ones will be shuttered. Who else do you have your eye on? When it comes to retailers that could follow a similar path and there's been talk about JC Penney or Neiman. Marcus yes both of those very much widely in the news. We know that macy's and the gap have renegotiated a lot of their deals. All these retailers really have come into the pandemic period hobbled by trends that have been going on for twenty thirty even forty years. We know department stores have been struggling. One marketing expert said to me that coming into the to the pandemic department stores were in the seventh inning of their lives. There now in the bottom of the knife but many of these stores can come out of this period again smaller footprints but they may have these brands that they licensed to others. So I'm also keeping my eye on Nordstrom as well and some of the names that I think are going to slide through the these middle tier retailers that just are losing out to the online brands but also losing out to the idea that many people are going to be very comfortable shopping online when previously. They weren't well. You mentioned macy's macy's announced plans to reopen stores in some places starting today. Yeah I think this is certainly ambitious I think that there's a real issue around if they open. Does it matter because maybe we weren't going to walk in there anyway? Maybe the pandemic wasn't this big moment in time where it makes a business rethink its business. But it accelerates all the plants that were already in place and I think that that's likely to be the trend that we see specifically in these retail brands. I'm also interested in these fast casual brands. Let's see if people are going to be so quick to go to a forever twenty one and if those brands survive Jill Schlesinger business analyst with CBS News. Thank you great to be with you. Jeremy we occasionally take a look at some of the ethical questions raised by the pandemic how the tests are run. The restrictions early on we watched protesters in Washington state angry. They couldn't get into a nursing home to see a loved one. There remember. That seems like so long ago and now people across the country are outside nursing homes looking in one of them ethicist art caplan. He's head of division of Medical Ethics at New York University School of Medicine. His mother Nataliya died in the Saint Patrick's Manor Nursing Home in Massachusetts a week ago today from Colvin. Nineteen at the age of ninety six. Are I know you were metaphorically? Outside looking in was your sister who was trying to give her care from here in Massachusetts described her as a pistol. Your mom. She's sure sounded like one. We were so sorry. Thank you yet. She was a pistol I know. Some people may be thinking ninety six good life perhaps not a sad. It was sad she was still enjoying her life enjoyed Going out to restaurants loved getting her hair done loved dressing up love music all the arts and craft she did. She was mentally with it and she loved the visits for my they. They really meant a lot to her. She was in there frequently well and then. She had to stop as visited nursing homes. Yes stopped and your sister said that your mom just really declined precipitously at that point and there are people we remember those protesters. There are people still saying. Can we make exceptions here? If they're going to be sick anyway if they're old anyway. Talk about the ethics. I mean I want to talk more about your mom and thank you for being to talk just a week later but did you ever question the ethics of being denied entry to the nursing home. Oh Yes yes. So when she cut this thing maybe three weeks ago she went into isolation by sister tried to visit her by going to a window outside a room and tapping on it holding up signs urging her to drink and eat but she stopped eating the feeling She lost her. Appetite is part of the symptom in that seems to be one of the consequences of the virus but again now she's in a room. She has no access to anybody meals or kind of brought in and the staff runaway freight of covert and. They're not necessarily with the right equipment. And you have no exercise. You have no nothing. She was clutching the phone hoping that one of US would call her. So you've got to really understand how sad the situation is what isolation really means and yes. I thought. Can't we get gowned? Can't we get basket? We go in there to at least have goodbye but the protective order was in round so that doesn't become an ethical question. It becomes a practical question. It does and you have issues of well who could go in could religious chaplain. Type Person. Go in would be better for my sister to go in the respecters of going in a lot of people with a mother or Dad. Grandpa would say. I don't care what the risk factors are going in. I gotTA hold their hand. Have My last words? You know. It's even difficult in these situations. We think of facetime being ipads but then have them in these nursing homes and they don't know how to work them certainly the resident so some of the means that we use zoom and so on. Just aren't there will be as an ethicist. You say. Yeah there are questions about why? Why can't I go in and see my grandparent? My loved one but the answer is because there are people in there as well and talk about that part of this the E. pluribus unum part of this. Everyone's actions aren't just their own actions. Nursing home is a tiny little community. People are coming in all the time. When you're not an coverted room to do something or someone to change a an optima bag but these are temporary nursing homes or come to the forgotten part of the healthcare world. So what I'm saying is they're moving virus around inside the nursing home if you get an outbreak arrest before disaster. I think eighty people died in a home in holyoke Massachusetts. During the same time. Last week there were ninety reported dead in the New York City nursing home. The conditions in nursing homes are great. And when you worse than them by having to keep cova positive people with part time staff it just becomes like an incubator for disease by the way. Did you become resigned? You the ethicist wrestling with this question with your own mother in the nursing home. Did you become resigned to know? It wouldn't be ethically right to go in now. I did I did. I accept it in a you. It was going to be too hard for them to manage that at the home frail. Move out so that wasn't a possibility either. Well you've also taken a stand on an ethical issue in human vaccine trials. Some volunteers are being injected with a test vaccine but researchers aren't exposing them to the virus that is rarely done in a human pilots. That's what happens in animal trials. They're just GonNa follow them and see if they come in contact with a virus somehow will vaccine. Fight it off. You say that needs to change right now. Really expose humans to this deadly virus if we're GONNA get out of this horrible pandemic which is taking hundreds of thousands of lives in North America. How many around the world we're going to have to speed up vaccine development. You hear some politician saying trump say today six months there is never going to be a vaccine and six months because it would take a couple of years to show that it worked if you just rely on immunizing people and then seeing whether naturally eat they get sicker. They don't mind proposal. Is We get volunteers? Who Consent to get vaccinated in young age groups of the death rate is very very low from the disease deliberately then challenge them with the virus that would speed up the process by years. Well I mean again. The ethicist is asking what your question would be. What's best for the planet not necessarily the individuals I mean. How do you gauge that? So partly it's how do we cut deaths by millions potentially over many years if we let the volunteers do what I'm suggesting. And then even the volunteers we could take them from young age groups that are high risk exposure people who might be first responders healthcare workers who are nursing home workers are getting exposed anyway at pretty high levels so if you knew what was going on you knew in their infected. You could follow them closely. Then I think you get your answer and people said to me well. Who's going to do that? Well actually I think they're about ten thousand people so for mine who volunteered. Yes in fact. There's a bill in Congress asking regulators to approve these so-called challenge trials for the criminal virus vaccine. There's a website one day sooner dot org more than nine thousand ten thousand people. Globally have volunteered to take part. But you know people volunteer to sell their kidneys and things and we don't let them do that. Although by the way we do let them donate their kidney. And the risk factor. They're dying is about the same as what we're talking about for a young person. Kovin but I guess I'm saying there are some things we don't allow because of concerns the individual. You're saying that the concern here is on the side of our future and for that reasoning. People should be allowed to do it. I wrote I think people should be allowed to do it to protect so many more of the rest of us. It's really altruistic. Act obviously there has to be fully informed. They have to. I wouldn't pay them because I don't want anybody suggesting they're doing it for money. And what them to do it for pure altruism and I think they could really contribute to getting us not just deaths from this thing but getting people back out and the economy going and all the rest of. It's not just who's going to die 'cause they get infected. It's who's going to die because they can't put food on the table. Kaplan we started by noting. Your Mom's passing from cove in one thousand nine just within the week. What do you say to people? And we're seeing the protests. Who say. I'm not going to wear masks. I mean Vice. President Mike Pence apologized for not wearing a mask. But people who say. I'm just not going to do it either. I'm against government tyranny or has become a political symbol people who are rejecting the social distancing. What are the ethics there? I'd say you're right to go. Get a tattoo. Seems weak relative to killing grandparent's? There's really no other way to protect the most vulnerable by engaging in the social distancing the an Washington the masks and I I hear what people say about. They don't want to be told what to do. But I think that comes at too high. Praise if you'RE GONNA wind up having the kind of Holocaust we're seeing in the nursing homes. Well people didn't like seatbelts either for awhile are Kathleen head of the division of Medical Ethics at New York University School of Medicine and most important for this conversation. The Sun one of the children of Natalie Kaplan again art. Thanks so much for speaking with us. We wouldn't be talking about. We've talked a lot about the healthcare side of this pandemic but for many Americans. The most pressing issue is economic more than THIRTY MILLION. People have now applied for unemployment benefits which does not count the many who have tried and failed to apply for those benefits and many are unable to make their rent payments for the month of. May It's already made the fourth dark Thompson has been looking at how this pandemic continues to hit people economically he senior editor at the Atlantic and he joins us from Washington. Hi Derek Hi Jammie so at the beginning of this crisis. Politician said don't worry so much about the economic stuff because it's only temporary and everything will come back roaring back just like it was but people have been unable to work for almost two months now in some places. Many Americans don't have the savings to get them through that. Yeah I would say do worry from the beginning. We had a pretty clear idea that this was going to be a disaster. And I think it's fair to say that from a labor market perspective. It's been about as bad as feared you're talking about an unemployment rate that's probably around twenty percent that's twice as high as the worst month of the great recession. It's almost as high or maybe exceeding the worst month of the Great Depression. Meaning it might be the highest unemployment rate in American history. To the government's credit. There is a plan to make sure that people have money even if they're not working and it's a three-part plan I you have the twelve hundred dollar checks that are being sent out to the vast majority of Americans at least those in the middle class. You have beefed up unemployment insurance which is helping a lot of Americans make closer to what they would have made if they were formerly employed in the economy fulltime. And then you have the payroll protection program. Is the government paying companies to not fire their workers. You put all of that together. It's a patchwork safety net but a patchwork safety net is definitely better than no safety net at all and this has been the government's response to what is truly an unprecedented labor market crisis. Well Derek it's one thing for so many people to be getting unemployment benefits and having the uncertainty that goes along with not knowing when they're going to have a regular paycheck again. What are the economic consequences? Though of so many people dealing with the level of income that is different and lower probably than what they had before. You know it's interesting. Because at the beginning of the crisis people talked about this being a supply side crisis that means that the US wouldn't be able to get all sorts of electronic equipment or agricultural products from other countries because those markets are being. Shut down what we're seeing right now. Is You just pointed? Out Are the beginnings of demand-side crisis. You have Americans who don't have enough money potentially especially if they're not getting jobless benefits to pay for essentials whether it's food tore the paper you know health care if they need it. I think that what we're seeing in woods truly. The most concerning thing about this is that if the federal government can't give individuals money to live soon we could see starvation. We could see people struggling to make ends meet and we could also at sort of the broader level see a demand side crisis intersecting with the supplies head crisis. And that's really the beginning of something that's not just an economic recession. It's more like an economic depression. What about on the business side today? For example in Florida they're allowing many businesses to open up at partial capacity in that state. Twenty five percent capacity these businesses. Still have all their expenses. Many have not gotten loans or grants from the government. Although some have can we really get back to a situation where everybody's able to get their jobs back where everybody was able to be employed as they were before if businesses can only be operating at partial capacity for the foreseeable future? This crisis is really cleaved. The economy into there's a handful of companies that are doing sensationally. Well if you're delivering almost anything whether it's pizza or all sorts of products like Amazon instant card but there's a lot of other businesses that are in the face to face economy that just can't operate right now and my concern for them is twofold. I I want them to be able to their breath in a no oxygen environment. That's right now where you have. Stores shutdown people cannot walk into them. That's a no auction environment. And Right now. They need to hold their breath and get through it. But as you alluded to the reopening of America when it comes is going to be a low oxygen environment. It's going to be a period of time when restaurants can't be full capacity. Movie theaters can't be full capacity. Stadiums might have to be empty. And that's why we need a two part plan. We need a plan like P. to prepare for today's no oxygen world but we also need a plan for the world that's GonNa come after that we're companies are going to have to operate at twenty five fifty percent capacity when we already got a sense of that over the weekend Warren Buffett said that he had sold all his shares of Berkshire Hathaway his company had sold all of their shares in the four largest. Us airlines. He says he doesn't know if three to four years from now people will fly as many passenger miles as they did last year. There are too many planes. Sounds like that statement may apply to more than just airlines dirk. Buffet said you've got too many planes. I think you could say we've got too many fill in the blank for a lot of things. We have ten times more physical retail shopping space per capita than Germany. We've three times more than Canada. So we are massively over retailed and as a result. I think that only because of the crisis keeping people in their homes but also because of the coinciding growth of e-commerce. You're going to see a lot of physical retailers. Not Be able to hold their breath during this depression. You already saw today. J. Crew filed for bankruptcy. We're going to see a lot more of those because there is just too much retail space and America's going to have to constrict it's retail space going forward that is Derek Thompson senior editor at the Atlantic Derek. Thanks as always thank you and here now is a production of NPR. Wvu Aren't association with the BBC. World Service. I'm Jeremy Hobson rather young. This is here now.
February 16th: News Roundup HR 1
"This is mornings with kale in northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi am by well. That tuesday a bit slimmed down this year as bars or closed and bourbon street as barbaric aided in new orleans this due to well could they corona virus and its attendant restrictions. Six seven now thirteen ten. Kfi k a thirteen ten kfi k dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail the auto collision specialist studios in front piece out of the associated press grown virus related limits on access to bourbon. Street shuddered bars and yes frigid weather. All expected to prevent what the city usually graves at the end of mardi gras season streets and businesses jam packed with revelers. You know and it's just not fat tuesday. Have you ever gone to mardi gras in new orleans or have you ever gone in the weeks. Preceding mardi gras. Because a. i can't tell the difference to be honest with you. I've never been there for the official fat tuesday. But i have been there was actually there on business in well a different life and the weeks before mardi gras i mean it's you've got the floats and he's got the festivities and you've got the. Hey mr throw me the beads well and everything that goes along with that. no. I didn't take part in that. Come on now but what a party. And what an economic boost for new orleans. Well not so much this year again parades and parties on mardi gras fat tuesday. Happy fat tuesday to you. By the way and the days leading up to that annual pre-lenten bash usually drive more than a million people each and every year button. No the grinch has spoken parades canceled. You had mayor latoya cantrell. Recently bars closed bars. Totally closed mardi gras. Imagine that even bars that had been allowed to operate as restaurants with some neighbor referred to as air quote conditional zehr quote food permits were shuttered for five days that began this past friday takeout drinks. And well you know those ever popular go cups also a now now. Put the kibosh on those as well. No more strolling the french quarter with a drink in hand. Bourbon street was to be blocked to automobile and foot traffic at seven. Am with access limited to residents business managers and employees hotel guests and restaurant patrons various estimates showed that hotels were likely to be anywhere from one third to half full. Think about it this far. Below the ninety percent plus bookings of most years and city and state officials all but warned tourists to stay away. Stay far far away. You had governor. John bel edwards saying a recent news conference. If people think they're gonna come to louisiana anywhere or new orleans and engage in the kind of activities the debauchery o they would have pre pandemic. They're seriously mistaken and quite frankly. They're not welcome here to do that now. We're seeing across the country of the country particularly when you look at texas in a deep freeze. Oh my goodness you have millions without power in texas now some had power actually restored but even closer to home and we talked about this just yesterday as you had over the weekend. The platte river power authority on sunday asking the their consumers to well ease up on power demand before or during the hours of four pm to ten pm on sunday. That's pretty rare. Call to conserve energy. But when you look at texas. They're just not equipped for twenty below zero wind chill. You had dallas resonance as a result of these rolling blackouts. Dallas residents were actually sleeping in their cars. In order to stay warm but the real question here is does this actually underscore the fallacy and the fantasy of aoc's green new deal all these power shortages that we are seeing along with the attendant spikes in energy prices as well tell you what we're going to check in with keith. Wine presidential wealth management this morning at seven thirty five and talk about that a little bit but want to get into the ridiculousness of using solar and wind as a replacement for oil and natural gas. And yes dare. I say it cole. Mother nature doesn't even like that proposition. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I'll tell you what we'll get into that in just a few by the way freezing or near freezing. Temperatures where in the forecast today for new orleans and the crowd control measures actually work. Well that scene will be in stark contrast to mardi gras crowds last year crowds. That were blamed for an early louisiana outbreak of covid. Nineteen parades also canceled this year in mobile alabama which boasts the nation's oldest mardi gras celebration. There was no plan to close bars. They are but some streets were to be shut down tuesday to control traffic. Allow for more outdoor seating and service at restaurants and bars. So well happy fat tuesday with you as with so many other things during a time of covid nineteen. Well a bit different this year. Six thirteen now thirteen ten. Kfi k thirteen ten kfi k. A. dot com this time brought to you by the ten delights dinner playhouse in johnstown featuring a wonderful i mean we can all use allow fright. Well you'll get just that with the church basement. Ladies the steel magnolias of and nineteen sixty five rural church in minnesota a delightful down to earth musical comedy now through march twenty eighth. So you want for tickets and information jump online. Visit colorado candlelight. Dot com candlelight. Dinner playhouse broadway in your backyard. Party northern colorado's forks thirteen ten. Kfi k a block party wednesdays from four ten pm headlines podcasts mornings with gail and more and a schedule upcoming sports broadcast. Find them at thirteen ten k. f. a. dot com right. Millions of texans left without electricity monday as that rare winter. Storm boosted demand crimped supplies demonstrating the california. Isn't the only state with a power grid is you. You had the electric reliability council of texas known as urquhot which manages the state's electricity grid. They began calling for rotating outages overnight on sunday to avoid widespread blackouts that can occur when demand exceeds supply but the severe power shortages i force companies to curtail power beyond those short rolling blackouts with many customers losing electricity for much of the day or caught for their part. Estimated that about two million homes were without power on monday cautioned that the outages would likely continue through today but by monday evening. Bit of a bright spot. It said that power had been restored to about a five hundred thousand people now. We talked about the fact that you had platte river power authority issuing a rare call this according to jc marmaduke in the fort collins colorado and talked about this yesterday to conserve energy asking. It's a customers to cut back on power usage on sunday between the hours of four and ten out they issued call this the power provider for fort collins loveland estes park and longmont issued that call to conserve energy. Both gas-powered heat as well as electricity again from four to ten pm on sunday flat river spokesman steve role stats said the public. Call to conserve. Came after excel energy notified to platte river on sunday. That gas supplies were being curtailed to preserve a fuel for heating. All of this begs. The question is a mother nature weighing in on. Ao sees a green new deal and do power. Shortages show the absolute folly of eliminating natural gas and coal put a piece by the editorial board out of the wall street journal headline kind of says it all a- deep green freeze this as oil prices have spiked across the nation particularly the central us while a texas regulators ordered those rolling blackouts but this is and it underscores the paradox of the laughs climate agenda. The we use fossil fuels. Guess what the more we need them now. Cold snaps happen and yes. We saw temperatures well below zero throughout the colorado the upper mid west we saw the temperatures take a nose dive in texas. If you remember twenty nineteen we also experienced the polar vortex heatwaves happen to yet the power grid is becoming less reliable due to a growing reliance on wind and solar. It's not a panacea. It's part of the equation but it certainly as we're seeing across the country with these rolling blackouts it's certainly not the sole solution wind and solar can't provide power twenty four hours a day seven days a week again while texas is normally why gas and oil. You had the electric reliability council of texas which oversees the state's wholesale power market urging residents this weekend to conserve power to avoid power outages Something that is a familiar. Refrain for customers of the platte river power authority but the severe power shortages forced companies to curtail power be on those blackouts again as urquhot Said that about two million homes were without power on monday. They expect that to continue today. Texas's emergency emergency in fact foot last all week as the weather is forecast to remain in the deep freeze zone. Public utility commission chairwoman. Dianne walker said. My understanding is the wind turbines are all frozen. Were already working to try and ensure we have enough power but it's taken a lot of consideration a lot of planning and not a few people sleeping in their cars in texas in order to stay warm. So where do we pin the blame. Well psa perfect storm of bad government policies timing and yes weather coal and nuclear. They're the most reliable sources a power but competition from heavily subsidized wind power and inexpensive natural gas combined with stricter emissions regulations. Well that's caused a coal share of texas's electricity. To plunge than half in a decade to amir eighteen percent wind share tripled to about twenty five percent since two thousand ten and accounted for forty two percents of power last week. This was before the deep freeze actually set in about half. Texans rely on electric pumps for feeding which liberals want to mandate everywhere but the pumps use a lot of power in frigid weather. So while wind turbines were freezing. Guess what demand for power was surging. Sure gas fired. Power plants ramped up but the arctic freeze increased. Demand for gas across. the country. Heard our news this morning That we've got gas prices up throughout the northern colorado and well. Let's just say we're not alone. Producers couldn't easily increased supplies since a third of rigs across the country were taken out of production during the pandemic amid lower energy demand some gas wells and pipelines in texas and oklahoma also shut down in frosty conditions enormous new demand coupled with constrain supply caused natural gas spot prices despite to nearly six hundred dollars per million british thermal units in the central u. s. That was from about three bucks a couple of weeks ago. Future wholesale power plant in texas for early this week to nine thousand dollars per megawatt hour from seasonal average of twenty five dollars. Now prices jumped in the mid west as well though less dramatically because well there are more coal and nuclear plants illinois michigan have more gas storage than than does texas which exports much of its shale gas to other states and increasingly around the world in liquefied form germany's public broadcasting recently reported that germany's green energies strained by winter. You think aloud report noted that power is currently coming mainly from coal and the power plants are now running at full capacity now california progressives as you're well aware long ago banished coal but a heatwave. Last summer strain the state's power grid. As wind flagged and solar ebbed in the evenings imagine that after imposing rolling blackouts grid. Regulators resorted to importing whole power from utah and running diesel emergency generators now liberals claim that prices of renewables and fossil fuels are now comparable which maybe a point. We need to concede but only due to subsidies. They are no free lunch. As this week's energy. Emergency shows concludes the wall street journal. Editorial board see if you agree. The biden administration's plan to banish fossil fuels is a greater existential threat to americans than is climate. Change your thoughts morning. Nine seven three five three thirteen ten. Drop me a text on a thirteen ten. Kfi a text line. By the way if you have been part of our texting cohort for quite some time. Nothing has changed. You can continue to the just as you always have but if you're thinking about dipping your toe into our thirteen ten. Kfi texting waters. We have a brand new number for you. Nine seven four seven eight thirteen one ought to do the first time you use. That number is taxed. Kfta again that number two nine seven four seven eight thirteen a one six thirty now. Thirteen ten kf kfi. What's happening in your own. Backyard listened to no co- now with tanner's swint a northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k. P. miss any portion of mornings with gail go to thirteen ten k. k. a. dot com to download the podcast. Today back to jail sat news the former university of northern colorado football standout. Vincent jackson has been found dead in a hotel room in florida at the young age of thirty eight. Six thirty seven now. Thirteen ten kfi thirteen ten k. of k. a. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail via the auto collision specialists studios. We're in for a couple of pieces this morning. One from espn. Another from bobby. Fernandez out of the greeley trip. The hillsborough county florida sheriff's office is investigating the death of former university of northern colorado and nfl standout wide receiver. Vincent jackson thirty eight. After jackson was found dead on monday in a room at the home would sweets in brandon florida. Now according to a news release from the sheriff's office jackson who had been residing in south tampa checked into the hotel january eleventh and had been staying in a room since then on february eleventh month after he checked in of jackson's family filed a missing persons report. This according again to this shariff press release. The next day members of the sheriff's department located jackson at home with sweets in florida and spoke with him after they assessed his well. Being the missing person case was closed. Sadly jackson was found dead in his hotel room by housekeeper about eleven. Thirty am m just yesterday. There were no apparent signs of trauma. This according to the hillsborough county medical examiner's office which will determine the cause of death and officially identified jackson's remains based on dental or dna records jackson who went to high school at whitefield in colorado springs attended. Unc playing football and basketball from two thousand one to two thousand five as senior at unc. Jackson scored a school record twenty one touchdowns and wasn't fc. S all american. He was then selected in the second round with the sixty first overall. Pick of the two thousand five. Nfl draft by the then san diego chargers where he spent the first seven years of his pro career. He then went on to sign with the tampa. Bay buccaneers where he fought. He played five seasons before retiring after the twenty sixteen season now. Son of military parents. Jackson founded the jackson in action eighty-three foundation. This is a nonprofit organization to support military families. The foundation tweeted on monday. That jackson's wife and family ask that. Everyone respect their privacy. At this time again. Jackson last played in the nfl in two thousand sixteen with the buccaneers The team with which he spent the final five seasons of his career. He has ranked fourth in franchise history with four thousand three hundred and twenty six receiving yards and tenth. A with two hundred and sixty eight. Receptions buccaneers owner co-chairman bryan glazer said in a statement. That jackson was quote a consummate professional close quote and even with his accomplishments on the field his greatest achievements as a buccaneer where the four consecutive nominations he earned as the team's walter painting man of the year. He played his first a seven seasons with the chargers. He is tied for eighth. In franchise history for touchdown receptions thirty seven and his tenth in receiving yards. Now overall vincent jackson at five hundred and forty catches for nine thousand eighty yards fifty seven touchdowns and was selected to three pro bowls in his twelve season career but Devastating news as the former university of northern colorado football. Standout vincent jackson was found dead in a florida hotel room yesterday. Our condolences to his family his friends and his extended. Unc family as well six forty one. Thirteen ten kfi a thirteen ten kfi k. a. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail via the collision specialists studios. All right. just wanna to catch you up on some local news of note. No doubt you've heard about that. Greeley house fire that displaced sixteen people. Well investigators have discovered that it appears rights. Trevor read in greeley trip. It appears to have involved a space heater now at about eight o'clock on sunday a pm. Greeley firefighters responded to a residential fire alarm on balsam avenue in greeley residents. Also carl to report an explosion and fire on arrival crews found heavily involved fire in the garage that was rapidly extending to the home crews thankfully quickly extinguished the fire bod all sixteen documents thankfully of the house where able to escape without injury. Thanks in part to the alert provided by properly placed functioning smoke detectors the residence where initially move to neighboring houses and vehicles to take shelter from the extreme cold. The american red cross responded to scene and help provide assistance with short term. has ing damages from the fire. Were initially estimated at sixty thousand dollars and though the investigation is ongoing as of yesterday morning preliminary information is leading investigators to believe that it was an accidental file. Fire potentially involving a space heater operating near combustible material the investigation. Needless to say has been difficult in the extreme cold now the initial call was placed by the homes monitored fire alarm which allowed crews to be alerted more quickly. The fire department said in a release. The greeley fire department reminds all residents to ensure their smoke detectors are operational by testing the monthly read and follow manufacturers instructions when using additional electric and gas heaters to assist with heating your residents. And it's a very timely cautionary reminder particularly as well we are emerging from the deep freeze but once again be very very wary and aware and cautious when you are using external heating appliances in order to keep your home. All right coming up. We're going to talk with rob nielsen. Little bit we'll probably get into an extended conversation with him. But yeah so what happens now when you look at the aftermath of the trump impeachment of course that the senate trial as crazy as it was as if you happen to watch the proceedings on Saturday as you had the impeachment managers demanding a vote on calling witnesses. That vote took and Yes it actually succeeded. And it seemed it appeared for all intents and purposes that witnesses would be called in the senate impeachment trial and then it was like They had kinda like a scooby doo moment where they realized well one of those scenarios. I think where that adage be careful what you wish for certainly came to bear as they decided. Well time take a break took a two hour break came back. It was as though that vote had never happened and they decided no. We're not going to call any witnesses. We talked to university of texas at arlington political science. Professor alan sacks yesterday asked him that question why the complete reversal. Why the flipflop. Why turnaround when he came to calling witnesses and it was exactly as i and i suspect you suspected as well because the first witness on the republican witness list would have been none other than house speaker nancy. Pelosi what did she now relative to the january six riots at the capitol. And when did she know it. Funny how that all fell by the wayside after they came back from that break and which they did some sort of a procedural vote roll call vote they call it something else but it was just rather odd well indeed as both impeachment proceedings have been. But we're going to check in this morning With rob nilsson for you. Come to know. Rob nagelsen quite well as a constitutional scholar and author. You're going to see his writings everywhere just about. I've pulled a couple of pieces out of the epoch times where he talks about what the consequences of this impeachment. In broad leo will actually be for conservatives of all stripes and what will the future of the gop looked like not gonna say torn asunder by these impeachment proceedings. But well. let's just say that there's a little bit of soul searching going on within the gop as to what their future will actually be because well midterms not that far away. Six forty eight now thirteen ten. Kfi a thirteen ten k. F. k dot com by the way robinson constitutional scholar and author will join us this morning at seven. Oh five. Sports story northern northern colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten kfi k. Nuggets basketball is back. The latest story surrounding the mile high crew by listening to the whole show northern colorado's voice thirteen ten k. Six fifty three now thirteen ten. Kfi thirteen ten k. A. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail the auto collision specialist studios. Okay that's our local news. Roundup continues touch a little bit about really. What i believe is a very cool innovative projects. And that is the terry ranch project. Well pulled this piece out of north. Forty news piece by stephen bond fazwi. Well kinda sums it up really water and sewer board to hear public comment and vote on the terry ranch. A process project. Excuse me they will meet tomorrow. Wednesday february seventeenth and by that. I mean the greeley water and sewer board at two pm to take public comment and make their final vote to approve the terry ranch project now. The project involves innovative. Aquifer storage and recovery project aimed at adding one point. Two million acre feet of water to the city's current water storage. The project would evolve over time to be utilized to as a backup drought supply in addition to being a long term water storage benefit adam jokers deputy director and i hope i'm saying his name correctly. Deputy director of water and sewer for the city of greeley says. Some of the biggest pros are that it is suitable for water storage and that we wouldn't be buying it just the mind the groundwater we are buying it as a location that we can store water under ground will be able to use the water. That's already there. And at some point in the future we will inject water underground and stored for later. Just like an underground storage reservoir project came as an alternative to enlarging the milton. Seaman reservoir above fort collins after the federal government required the city to look for other options. Terry rand water currently contains uranium and while the city plants to clean the water prior to its residents utilizing it. Well as is often the case. You've got groups of concerned citizens journey joining forces. Stop the project from happening. One local group concerned with the project is save greeley's water it consists of engineers scientists. Water professionals environmentalists and activists. Who are worried about managing and maintaining the city's existing water system to benefit grease water. Customers group aims to recognize address and is hoping to defeat the terry ranch master agreement which was signed by the greeley water and sewer board on wednesday june seventeenth of last year and that will be presented to city council next month. Apparently save greeley's water will be holding a peaceful stroll around greeley city hall tomorrow again. Tuesday february sixteenth from three thirty pm to five pm to voice their opinions to greeley city council and the city manager regarding the project. This vote by the greeley water and sewer board by the ways. Just step one in the terry ranch project happen. The fate of the project will ultimately be decided on tuesday march second. This is when the greeley city council will meet and hold a public hearing to vote and decide whether to make the terry ranch purchase a by the way. If you want to learn more about the terry ranch project you can visit a greeley gove dot com noodle around on that website and you'll find a multitude of information on this terry ranch project sixty seven out thirteen ten. Kfi k the power trip weekdays at eleven and thirteen ten kfi k. Hey what's happening in your own backyard. Listen to no co- now with tanner's swint on northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi came from the democrats. The republicans just can't quit him talking about former president. Donald trump a rundown on the latest impeachment proceedings when professor. Robert nicholson rob. Nicholson headed the independence. Institutes constitutional studies center and a great author joins us this morning at seven oh five. Kfi greeley seven o'clock.
Amanpour: Lisa Blunt Rochester, LaToya Cantrell and Pter Szijjrt
"Hello everyone unwelcomed Amanpour. Here's what's coming up macron viruses. Not His fault but the way in which responded to it is his problem. He's the commander in chief. Leadership DEMOCRACY AND CORONA VIRUS WITH BERNIE SANDERS. Now out to the twenty twenty race. One is Joe Biden's playbook for beating President Trump campaign CO chair congresswoman supplant blockbuster joins me then we're not claiming victory at all and we are just now starting to see the car. The mayor of New Orleans speaks to Walter Isaacson about why the death rate is so high amongst the black community there and around the country plus has the corona virus killed its first democracy to be questioned after the Hungarian government grabs emergency powers indefinitely. The Foreign Minister joins me. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christiane working from home in London. The Corona virus battle rages on but we are seeing small signs and sighs of relief in some countries Spain. The second worst hit European nation has reached the peak of the pandemic and the prime minister says the fire is coming under control and New Zealand is turning a corner says prime minister just into autumn. But here the UK K. and indeed the United States both recorded their deadliest days on Wednesday meantime world leaders have criticized president. Trump's attacks on the World Health Organization and the Director General himself rejects trump's accusation. That it initially downplayed the threat. You take a listen this please. Don't politics is this virus? It exploits the differences. You have at the national level if you want to be exploited and if you want to have many more bodybags bags then you do it. If you don't want many more bodybags then you refrain from polity sizing it. That was a very pointed warning not to play games with this life and death pandemic and indeed. The question of leadership has become more important than ever and for the third straight week. Millions more Americans have signed up for unemployment benefits bringing the newly unemployed to nearly seventeen million in the United States since late March and with the stage set now for a trump biden showdown after Bernie. Sanders pulled out of the race. What is the former Vice President Strategy Delaware Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester coaches the Biden Campaign? And she is joining me now congresswoman. Blunt Rochester. Welcome to the program. Let me begin by asking you. How in the age of Corona virus do you even run a campaign and then we'll even get to the general election first of all? Thank you so much for having me. And I begin by reaching out on behalf of vice-president Biden to all of those individuals who are experiencing the impact of the corona virus as well as those who are on the front lines. I'm working whether it is a person who's a healthcare or whether they're delivering groceries. We know that you are on the front lines and our hearts go out to you and we want you to know that the vice president is working very hard on this issue. Your question was a good one. How do you deal in an environment such as this? How do you can't pain? And first and foremost for vice president health say in those individuals who might to health and safety of his staff to make sure that they are working remotely and are able to really be able to still reduce the outcomes that we want which is winning in. November health and safety are our number one number two. I think like most of us. You know you're you're you're trying to figure out how to navigate. I mean even the fact that were teleconferencing to have this interview is a new way of operating so in the beginning I think many of us had to work out some of the kinks of being able to to actually work this way but he is doing television shows. He is doing podcast scenes. Doing all kinds of interviews as well as I'm engaging with experts on the virus both healthcare experts and economic experts in so for him the the campaign has not stopped as a matter of fact. What we know is in a time of crisis That's when leadership really counts and so he is demonstrating that leadership congresswoman. Let me ask you because it's a little bit of a delicate issue isn't it? I mean here. We have a national and an international crisis and many won't refrain from criticizing their elected leaders head on while they deal with this emergency. But there are many in your party who are saying. Don't you think Vice President Biden? Who'S GOING TO BE? The nominee needs actually to get out there and challenge what he might think of inconsistencies and lack of leadership whatever areas he might be able to offer an alternative narrative to what the president is offering. Is it the time shooting? Not Be out there over and over again with social media on on television or whatever and you hit on. It's a difficult balance because the reality is We as a country going through distance. It's it's not Republicans. Democrats are independence. It's all of us. That are waking up to this reality everyday. But it's important for us to showcase the contrast in how we would handle this kind of situation so that as individuals go into the elections in the fall they can know what kind of leader they would have with the Joe Biden on his website. Joe Biden Dot Com. He's already come out with what we should do. Now in this current situation as well as future pandemics he did reach out to the president and in Hedda conversation but he is also highlighting those areas where he feels We have been neglectful and late and so I think there is that balance again. The goal is to present the real contrast so that people can make a good decision. Let me just get you? The issue of Bernie Sanders who dropped out. Harav suspended his campaign on nonetheless saying that he was not going to end it and he was going to see how many delegates he could get in order to try to influence the platform the convention. Here's what Joe Biden said. When that happened he said I hear you? This is about the sanders supporters. I hear you I see you. I understand the urgency of what it is that we've got to get done for this country and of course the issue is sanders supporters and will a. support the nominee Joe Biden. This is what Bernie Sanders said on television in the United States last night. I think what Joe has what I think he will do is look at one of those issues that young people in working class people who supported me. What are they concerned about? So I mean I think Joe Adopt by platform I got are but if he can move in that direction I think people say you know what this is a guy who we should support and was support so congresswoman? Does that mean that Vice President Biden is going to start moving on some of these very important issues. And what could he do to get that? Support that Bernie. Sanders is talking about. Well I I want to thank Senator Sanders for his service and his leadership and I think that the vice president has expressed that same thing. They have known each other for many years and have been colleagues and and really appreciate it the fact that he number one exposed and braised issues. That had not been in the forefront and so first of all we thank him for the issues that he was raised for our country but also You know personally. The fact that he's been able to engage people who didn't see their relevance in the political process. I mean that's a big thing to have people recognized yet. My vote matters whether I am engaged matters. And so we we really thank him for that service actually into him on a break before the Iowa caucus he was eating breakfast with his family his wife and grandchildren. And you know part of the conversation was that while our campaigns may be different they are also It's not the it's not the the what it's the how and so we were really excited. Because in that conversation he talked about unity and that was months ago and that was the message that he gave as well when he made his announcement for Joe Biden. He has said no matter. What What Group. It was whether it was young. People african-americans veterans. He wants to earn your vote. And that's what he will continue to do is to work to earn the vote One of the ways that I think we've already seen some movement is recently The vice president has actually adopted the proposals or part of the proposal. That both Bernie Sanders Giant Ball had regarding a college affordability. He also adopted one of the platform areas from Elizabeth Warren regarding bankruptcy so again part of Joe Biden's plan is for Americans to see that we are all in this together and that we all did under this route together and that we wanna hear the various voices and come up with a platform that will really Make sure that we lift. Uplift the middle class on that people are engaged in that we care about our environment healthcare and all those issues that do matter to roast progressives in the the whole spectrum of Democrats and Republicans and and and clearly healthcare has been. Put right into the spotlight with this. Corona virus pandemic. But I just want to ask you just if you can confirm to me. Because sources have told The Times that Senator Sanders and Joe Biden are expected to roll out a series of of of issues and policies. Sort of intangible. These Biden is going to you know support. Some of the issues of senator. Sanders is that correct. Are you going to have any announcement any roll out anytime soon? I will defer to Mr Biden to answer that question. Okay so let me ask you this then because some people are saying well they're saying a lot of things that you need to get your digital and tech and social media game really up because as they say and as many independent observers will say president trump has a very very shop and dominant role on social media. His campaign manager used to be as digital campaign manager. And they know what they're doing. So what plans do you have? Are you hiring New People? Are you going to be expanding more on social media because it's not just about television anymore right? It's not about traditional media particularly in this completely untraditional corona virus campaign time. Exactly exactly as a matter of fact your viewers may know that the campaign brought on a new campaign manager Jen o'malley who actually came from the better O'Rourke campaign She has hit the ground running. And you know I mean when you really think back I was one of the first people that endorsed Vice President Biden. I'm having known him for over thirty years known his work known his work ethic known his heart and his passion And Win I you know signed on a lot of people were were not sure about a Joe Biden candidacy and you know throughout that time. There were struggles people would say. Oh you guys don't have enough money. Oh you're not doing well in the polls and at that time. I said those are true metrix. But they're snapshots in time and I think what you have seen is again that desire that that that Joe Biden push to to earn people's votes and end that's what he continued to do and I think when we you know. Think about where we are. Today I'm from Super Tuesday on in how the tide has has changed It now requires us to step up our game and we're excited about all of the new enthusiasm in energy. That's come on board Ethan. The various endorsements by the previous presidential candidates and what they each bring to the table. I mean they bring different things themselves in so yes Social media we're ramping. That up hiring people. We're ramping that up. I remember at one point. We were thinking right before Super Tuesday. There were places. We didn't stay resources. People were there people and they voted. And that's what we need them to do in November. We need them to show up. And that's a whole nother issue. How do we protect eagles safety during a pandemic and be able to vote their right to vote? So we are. We are ramping the campaign up in a new and exciting way and you'll be seen some announcements in the upcoming weeks but it really was people power and and that's really what it's GonNa take for us to win in November right. So here's the thing congressman as you know consistently national polls in a head-to-head put vice mayors and Brydon about six points ahead of president trump but president trump has a daily platform that he's using an even the Wall Street Journal editorial today said he's using it for like as a substitute for rallies now instead of shop medical and general sort of protective and safety information so even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board said that. But the question is how does vice-president? Biden compete with that. And you talked about safety and you talked about the real difficulties in this corona virus. You can't go door to door you can't have rallies. You can't have fundraisers you need money. You need to get it somehow and you need to make sure that you're going to be able to have the primaries and the general election so what are you doing. What is the party doing? I don't really know the mechanics. But what are you doing to make sure that if you can't actually you know go and vote that there could be absentee ballots. I mean really ramping. Up that absentee issue is is that what's going to have to happen. I mean maybe even in November that is right now we in Congress. This is part of our responsibility. You know states and You know can do what they can do to make. Sure that There there you know. Residents are safe but there are certain things that need to be scaled up and take resources so for example even in the cares. Act that we just passed for the Corona Virus Response There was funding bad. We in the House Democratic Caucus really pushed hard for for election protection to be able to vote by mail And as you've heard the president say he is not supportive of that but the reality is there are places in our country right now. That had vote by mail. That do no excuse. Absentee ballots in it including the absentee ballot. That he's GonNa use and people do it safely and in so number one priority. In their linked is the health and safety of our folks in the ability to exercise a right to vote we in Congress had the ability to make some changes so for example in that cares act. There was money we requested but we didn't get the amount we wanted but for states to be able to access that money they would have to put up twenty percent of the money to to be able to get the match will. That doesn't incentivize them. That doesn't even help them in a situation where they are struggling to find money so this next package may be an opportunity for us to make sure that people's votes are protected. It might not be in this next package. But we've got to do it because because this this is a right. Let me just ask you very this is probably a yes or no. Are you going to call on Michelle and Barack Obama the former first lady and president of the United States who are the most popular politicians in America to come out not just in endorse but to campaign in whatever way they can for For Vice President Biden. I know that The President President Obama and Vice President Biden as well as Jill. Michelle have a very very special relationship and you know from the very beginning The vice president wanted to win this nomination on his own But but now it has been really good that they still stay in contact. I think as we go into the you know looking at a convention in what a convention could look like whether that's going to be in person or not. It's already been delayed to August. We're going to need all hands on deck and so while I'm not a purse grow personal or close friends with the vice with the president or Mrs Obama. I would love to see you on the campaign trail we could definitely use. You and America misses you and one final question because people said what is a vice-president Biden signature policy. Is it just beating president trump or is there something specific and we hear from many particularly in his foreign policy area that he is interested in global leadership and boy if anything showed how much what happens in the world affects the United States? And how much? Us leadership or lack thereof affects the progress of this kind of pandemic. I'm what happens around the world. It is this now right. So is that something that Vice President Biden is going to double down on because America is not leading. The world is leading America but not the world like it used to on various other crises. Well I think the important thing about Joe Biden is that he has both experienced domestically as well as internationally and so you know to raise our standing again in the world is important to him but he really does care about those Britain butter issues that affect People's daily lives. I mean if we just look right now at the situation with the corona virus and how it is disproportionately affecting people of Color. A people based on their socio economic status You know these are issues. That touch people in with this virus has done is just highlighted and magnified underlying issues in so for for a President Biden deceit leadership in Many areas. But I think what is important are four things. A person has to be credible. He is both here and abroad. A person has to be competent. He knows what he's doing. He's done it before. He has to be consistent. If you're speaking to your the public you and your your health. Experts should be saying the same thing and last. He has to be compassionate. Joe Biden knows what it means to be compassionate. When you do that you get the confidence of all right all right thank you so much congresswoman Blonde Rochester. Thanks for joining us. As the corona virus pandemic has four schools across the country to close teachers are scrambling to get their curriculum and their students online. I'm poppy harlow in this week. On offs files I talked to two leaders are supporting those teachers students and their parents during this crisis Russia Johnny the founder and CEO of girls who code and Joe Holland the CEO of Teachers. Pay Teachers. They talk to me about how their organizations are working to help the most vulnerable students during this uncertain time. You can listen to the latest episode of Boss Files. Wherever you get your podcasts. You're about seize Kiel. O.`Neil like you've never seen him before this show about my life just because I have more than the average guy doesn't mean I'm better than the average guy. Jack like all new Thursdays at nine on. Tnt I just don't know if I'm ready to face the world on my own Tracy. Morgan is back referenda. Edging Tiffany Haddish's back but we support one another. Everything's GonNa be okay the last. Oh Gee own new Tuesdays at ten thirty nine thirty central on. Tbs We just want to bring you up with some news that we adjust learning and that is apparently the British prime minister. Boris Johnson has left intensive care. And he's being moved back to a hospital ward where he received close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery. Now later in the program we look at how some countries like Israel and Hungary a seizing emergency powers during this pandemic. They say to better deal with it. But critics say is just an old fashioned assault on democracy. I'll be speaking to the Hungarian Foreign Minister. But First Corona virus has hit Louisiana hard and new data reveals that the viruses hitting african-americans hardest with the state's black community accounting for seventy percent of deaths. Even though they only make up thirty three percent of the population the mayor of New Orleans Latorre Cantrell says this disparity is reflected nationwide because of systemic problems like poverty traps and lack of resources. Meantime critics say New Orleans should've locked down earlier. The mayor tells Walter Isaacson. Why Mardi Gras went ahead madame? Mayor that joining us. Thank you for having me. We've seen over the past few days now. A decline in the amount of hospitalization Decline in the use of respirators. Have we reached the point? Where your stay at home? Measures seemed to be flattening. The core We have reached a point to where are stay at home efforts. In mandates they are working We have to maintain the mandates the stay at home orders. This is the time that we do not let up that we get more aggressive as it relates to the stay at home mandates we do not want to regress. We want to continue to make progress in so we're not claiming victory at all And we are just now starting to see the curve. So we're not in the situation where we're flattening we are approaching the Kerr and We're shifting in pivoting really into not only more care but stopping people from dying and that's the focus. We want to stop the deaths from happening. You know we're New Orleans not very good at social distancing and I'm here in the French quarter and I looked outside. Now see that you have police cars at breaking up anybody. Who's in a crowd walking around trying to go? How have you been trying to enforce this? Stay at home order. Well the biggest level of enforcement is one having the presence of the law enforcement but at the same time pushing for personal responsibility and we as we look at the mobility data from cell phone usage. We know that seventy three percent of our people in terms of moving around. They're not so they are are adhering to the mandate taking a very seriously and we are as well as a city because we cannot allow people to move about a break the law and do nothing about it so when we act swiftly it really sets the tone that not only do we mean business but this crises is it serious people are dying and people are sick when you have cell phone data you have the cameras traffic cameras around the city. How do you balance the concerns? People might have about privacy with the need to look at it as much information as possible to see who's moving around well one. We're not all we're looking for and we're not using our traffic cameras award took up to follow people. That's not what we do As a relates to the cell phone data it strictly around mobility how you can see and you don't even the individualize is just really the traffic and so we're not Cross the line with people's personal information or data points but we are using it to see if people are following the rules and they are staying put and that's a good thing with the recent decline in the need for hospitalization in New Orleans. And the reduction of the need for ventilators. Do you think that's going to change how we use the Convention Center in our emergency preparedness? Well first of all our people are still in the hospital. I don't want to give the sense. That folks are not hospitalized. They are and they are still at record numbers. But what we're seeing is that our people are one coming off those ventilators sooner rather than later. the surge capacity at the Convention Center our Medical Monitoring Facility opened on yesterday. We opened up with fewer than twenty patients there We are saying that based on how well our healthcare workers are doing the best job ever within those hospitals. It does make us feel that we will not have to surge up to the capacity of three thousand so right now. It's at one thousand. We believe that that will be sufficient but again the convention center is for region one and that's multiple parishes that make up region. What so we may find ourselves being a much greater service to our our our Regional PARISHES THAN JUST ORLEANS. Our family homes or in the same neighborhood right in the heart of New Orleans called Broadmoor during Katrina. You worked with my father and others in trying to make sure. We came back neighborhood by neighborhood. Reflect on that for a moment and how that's helping you organize neighborhood recovery's come out of this well why it is engaging the people who are on the ground meaning these neighborhood leaders you know they have a role to play so. I have been engaging them multiple ways whether that is having a consistent conference calls with them calling them to task with helping. What'S FEEDING CLEANING UP? Even their their communities their areas knowing their neighbors you know a disaster is not the time to to to to start learning. Who People are. You should know that and we have been trained to do this particularly in the Post Katrina Environment. So reminding people that you know. Your neighbors are your first responders. And you have to be organized. And and so Organized a government organized community in many ways like I did post Katrina have over thirteen active committees that engages. The business community the hospitality tourism made. It just goes on and on the death care community of course neighborhoods a public schools. I mean all of these different Mechanisms it helps want to give people accurate information which is essential and also keeps them not only informed but it empowers them to be a part of the solution and end to get out of the way you know. Don't don't hurt us was we. Were preparing for Mardi Gras. You worked very closely with some of the feds the FBI. Everybody else to make sure that the security was great during Mardi Gras did anybody from homeland security or the federal government. One you about the pandemic and say you should do something differently. Oh No not at all. Well there were no red flags are given to the city of New Orleans through our unified command and leading up to up to Mardi Gras We had increased our rating with the federal government sear to rating for Mardi Gras. Which we've never had before which means additional resources that will flow through the federal government as well as people on the ground so I- special agents on the ground in the community walking with the chief in our public safety team every parade so nobody ever recommended. You should cancel. Mardi Gra Ono. One recommended that we cancel Mardi Gras and In a even when I moved to cancel Saint Patrick's Day and and Super Sunday march a nine All Hell broke loose with that as well being ridiculed at the state level and all but it was the right thing to do and when I look at the forecast of data not only. Did we do the right thing? We saved countless lives. And we'll continue to do that. Would have you asked for from the federal government or the state government that you've not received. What are your priorities? Now well the priorities you know have been a definitely around the PPA getting the protective equipment. That are frontline workers. Our employees our first responders that they desperately need and consistently. That's been a continued struggle. But we're saying things come come in. Testing wasn't issue initially but we're testing more than any other city in the country and we're second to Iceland right now which is a real reflection in the numbers in the cases. But you have to. You have to have the data to know where you are and how you're doing so I'm happy about that as relates to the Stanley Stimulus package we Were very aggressive. On the front end of galvanizing our federal delegation as well as our state delegation for advocating for the needs of the city which led to assume infusion of of stimulus dollars even set aside for Orleans through Hud. Amer like so things are moving. We just need to make sure that the city is at the table as resources will flow from the federal government to the state because the city will not receive directly because of our population sought. WanNa make sure we're in line to get our fair share. You know we our economy again driven by half metality. We have over one hundred ten thousand workers that are attached to that and more of the the GIG economy and the resources that they need gap financing the you know their family. Steady is huge We believe that we're going to need to feed over two hundred thousand over the over the next couple of weeks daily and so these continue to be some needs but I'm hopeful based on the response of our federal delegation coming together working across those by partying being across lines to deliver seventy percent of corona virus cases in Louisiana among African Americans. Even though African Americans only thirty three percent of the population. Why is it affecting the black community more? Well I think what this pandemic has exposed particularly in the United States. And it's not that we don't know right but it has absolutely Exposed for job the fragility Within our community the black community the working Within working families the disparity gaps that existed that we knew were prevalent not only in New Orleans but the United States of America but it It brings it home in these instances. So it's a public health disparity issue and public health touch everything from housing to employment to physical health to wellness The economics it all matters end so black folks in regards to the disparity gap that exists in this country. Make up the majority that fall in that gap and so are most vulnerable. So when you're in a when you're faced with the crises like we're in it's your most vulnerable people within your population who suffer the most so we will continue to see this if we don't address These disparity needs that we've known about you know for decades for generations but No longer I believe that we can continue to avoid a meeting where they are when we know that their needs are there which steps are being taken for the poorest in the city of for the poorest this is our most vulnerable what. I say is My street homeless. You know and getting them off the street. We have been able to do some of that. I still have about one hundred and forty that still remain on the street that I need to find housing or accommodations for and we're working towards that every single day and then having to also deal with residents in their neighborhood to want to try to embrace this not my backyard a type of concept but in a crises that will not fly and And even outside with crises from my perspective but were managing it through Speaking directly with residents with their concerns and alleviating their concerns everyone matters in this city in our most vulnerable absolutely but a part of that is our mental health. The mental health of our community. Which touches everybody in all demographics in a across the board? I'm worry about the mental health of my folks. I really am. I'm seeing an uptick in suicides And also as we lose employees to this virus as well so making sure that we have grief counseling in place. That's one of the services that we advocated or at the federal level or crisis counseling. That something that the Federal Government delivered on and we're working to see how we can execute that on the ground as soon as possible in New Orleans when somebody of great cultural significance like Ellis. Marsalis DIS The way that person is often mourned as to a parade a second line array. Are you worried about the cultural traditions? And about how? We're going to mourn here in the city. Oh no doubt. I'm very much worried about Just psychologically right we have. We're we're we're all morning here and not just the city but the United States of America are worry about that but in our city. I have no doubt. We're going to get through a. We're going to mourn in a way that we haven't seen collectively before because it's two hundred eight people and we know that that number is growing but you know it'll be what time what time but not one is is over the next all of them will be more appropriately and I believe that Our Families. It's so sad because this is different When your loved one dies there long? They're by themselves. No one can go kiss mom or Grandma Papa. No one can say goodbye and they have to do it over the phone And it's very. It's very difficult so I think this is going to be a morning like we've never seen before. In a way that will he'll Through our culture again like we've never felt before when I go out on the balcony behind me. I sometimes hear musicians playing on the balconies up down Royal Street would like for you to be in a city. That's generally quite where there isn't music on the streets. All it's really tough and that's why we are a meaning. The city is working very closely with our cultural community. You know in most a crises that we faced why. Your cultural economy off is is considered in essential You know Personnel or critical Staffing but in this instance it's critical so through the office of Cultural Economy going on right now. We have artists performing And where we're live streaming matt throughout the city. We have a. This is also a way to keep a not only them playing gigs going but even The making a few dollars from the GIG. So it's not like this handout. It is a service that they're providing and they're being paid for that and that's the office of cultural economy. I've know that the culture of this city will be essential to the recovery and the revitalization as removed from this Bandini. No doubt about Madam there. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you so much. And of course the whole world knows when New Orleans stands on music and culture and holding onto our arts and culture can only help us get through this crisis like so many other crises now. The pandemic may also be putting democracy and rule of law under strain case in point Hungary last week. The government asked to rule by decree indefinitely to handle this pandemic and parliament approved. The law contains no time limit. Prime Minister Viktor. Orban says that he'll use the extraordinary powers proportionately but opposition lawmakers say it puts the whole of Hungarian democracy in quarantine and today the government further announced that the current lockdown will be extended indefinitely and revisited. Weekly joining me now to discuss. All of this is foreign minister. Pita siato welcome to the program Mr Foreign Minister. We've spoken many times before about these issues. And I'm just wondering what you make of for instance. The headline says you know. Has Corona virus killed off? Its first democracy talking about yours well Good evening to you. I'm very happy to talk to you now gain although I regret that we cannot meet personally. Hopefully this Craziest situation will be over in a for a short foreseeable time and we will have the chance to talk to each other personally again and I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you because I see that there are many fake news on the lies spread about Hungary our they are based on this new. I understand that many of these reports about US emphasize that there is no time limit in the low which is not entirely true. Given the fact that the law says that it is the parliament itself which can conclude the state of danger. I cannot Imagine to be honest a more democratic solution for that then giving these rights to the parliament itself which has the democratic authorization from the people on the other hand. I have to tell you that I read these reports and I regret that these reports never speak about the truth in its entirety given the fact that there are four countries in the European Union applying a similar kind of solution. Poland Malta Croatia. And thus and there are four other countries in which the government can prolong the state of emergency or a state of danger without any kind of decision made by the parliament. So I don't. I don't think that there's anybody who would be able to say what time this academic what time the virus challenge is going to be over so. I think the good solution is that we gave this right to the parliament to make a decision when they think that these state of danger should be concluded right now for a minute. Siato as you know. We don't engage of fake news. So there's just no point in even using that when talking to me. This is what you'll parliament is done and you have an indefinite indefinite rule by decree as you very. Well know sure you can say. Theoretically Parliament can change this but the parliament is two-thirds majority of your party and your party allies the ruling feeders party and its allies really. The parliament is going to go against Viktor. Orban you just tell me if you think that's even possible you know. First of all the composition of the parliament is not an outcome of a lottery but elections. So I think it's a kind of natural that in parliament there is a majority and there is a minority and the majority is definitely for the Government on the on the other hand. There are many fake news spread about Hungary in disregard. Unfortunately I spoke about this term generally many Media outlets have spread their lies and fake news around the slow one of these fake news is that it says that the government has an uncontrolled and unlimited possibility to make decrees which is not true. The law says very clearly that we can make decrees only in accordance with protecting the country the people and the economy from the challenges related to the virus and we definitely have to make such kind of decisions but we are not the only one all countries in the world. I guess and just for the sake of of comparison. I have to tell you that the riots which have now been given to the Hungarian Prime Minister and the government by the parliament are much narrower than the rights for example given to the president of France under normal circumstances so portraying this situation as if it was a threat to democracy is simply unfair. I have to be honest with you. Mr Foreign Minister the French National Assembly. It's parliament is still functioning. The British parliament is still functioning. Yes it's in recess for Easter. The United States Congress is still functioning. Your parliament is not. Your parliament is closed down. So that's a big big difference and then you say that all other democracies and other countries are doing this in Europe as well. Well let me. Let me. Just ask you about Norway. As you know Norwegian prime minister would have liked to have had emergency powers. She asked for them till December thirty first for the rest of this year. In order to deal with this crisis but her parliament said no and they gave her one month's emergency powers again. I want to know when. Do you think that your emergency powers are going to be? Lifted this rule by decree and exactly. What do you need these powers for that? You couldn't enact whatever measures you need to control the pandemic with this massive majority that you have in parliament. I really respect to a lot personally if I can make it more personal I can tell you that I really enjoyed the personal meeting with radio and I really enjoyed the programs you have on. Cnn try to be frequent of you're of that but now you have been engaged in spreading and other us about Hungary to sorry to say because you just said. The parliament is blocked in Hungary. Which is not true. The parliament is in session for example this week. The parliament was in session for me. That's new I myself gave a report. The I gave her report in the parliament about the last week. Session of the NATO foreign ministers about the last week session of the e U. For minister. I myself spoke five times in the plenary session only this week and I take and I took part on the meeting of before I committee next week. The parliament will have another two day session. And this is GonNa be the situation until the thirtieth of June. This is enormous the Hungarian parliament that we started that we start. You say okay but the but the fingers that I thought to be honest but this is news to. I'm accepting I'm accepting but you're giving us again 'cause I need to ask you so. This is a single tech choosing fine. But let me ask you something. What measures to control the pandemic? Are you unable to have given you a massive government and parliamentary majority and does for instance deciding not to recognize transgender rights? Which has just happened. Fall into these emergency powers that you need to deal with the pandemic. This is why people are worried about what you're doing because they think that you using this crisis to continue the march towards authoritarian rule by decree in your country. This is not new. It didn't just happen now. So onto that Mr Foreign Minister. So yeah yeah sure. Sure I tried my best. Believe me so this week. We have submitted sixteen draft lows to the parliament. Totally independent from the epidemic situation. So you have to. You have to separate things into two parts. First the measures regarding the fight against the virus a dare we have the right to make decrees as many other countries have decided to do so because their speed matters. You don't have two weeks For the parliament to make a law. You have to act immediately. This is one on the other hand when it comes to laws which have nothing to do with the virus situation. They go in the normal schedule in the parliament. The one you refer to as has been on the table of of the parliament for more than three weeks now totally independent three from the virus so decrees in accordance with the wires can be made and laws. We have nothing to do with the virus going the normal schedule in the parliament. This is the normal way how the Hungarian parliamentary democracy works. Let me just put down the sound bite from the head of the European Commission. You are a member of the EU. This is what the European Commission. President also vandalized said. Just after this decree was approved by Parliament. Take a listen understand. That member states may need to take emergency measures to address the immediate health crisis. But I am concerned that certain measures go too far and particularly concerned with the situation in Hungary. What do you make of that? She's concerned and a lot of people. Are Concerned Look respect The President of the European Commission. A lot as well. I know her because personally as well. Because as a minister of Federal Minister of Defence of Germany in their actions so with all my personal respect to her. I totally disagree with this statement. And why I do that. Because the European Commission in the European Union is the guardian of the treaties so the European Commission is entitled to make kind of investigations about the measures countries are making better. They are in line with the European treaties or not. Any kind of investigation have not been concluded yet. So making a preacher this about the outcome of possible future investigations. To be honest. It's not fair and on the other hand you know what I talk. I reject is double standards because now the against speak about Hungary but once again I have to tell you their free other countries in the European Union Poland Malta Croatia. All our friends who have no time limit in regulations and four other countries Tonia Italy Slovakia and Slovenia there. The problem of such a situation can be based exclusively on the decision of the government without having the approval of the parliament. So why Hungary again these kinds of double standards I think should be left aside especially under the current situation and let me tell you one thing we had the we had the meeting of the Foreign Affairs Council which is the gathering of the EU for ministers. And I told my colleagues I understand everything. I do not understand one thing. The fighting with a huge challenge thousands of European citizens are dying on a daily basis. Tens of thousands of citizens are being infected on a daily basis. My question is how Norwegian who are not members of European but then ish finished Dutch Italian Greek. Other politicians do have time to deal with such very important question who conclude state of danger in Hungary instead of dealing with their internal situation and to hell because we dated. Use the restroom mostly mostly. The answer is just like we are seeing the Democrat. They have used damage down and to start to end. The light ended. And let me ask you this. Presumably you would agree that president trump and the trump administration our allies and friends. Yes yes yeah. Of course we are no question. Yeah Yeah no question fine your your counterpart in the United States Secretary of State. Michael Pompeo has said about this. There will be bad actors who try to use this outbreak virus for nefarious ends. People saying boy. Autocracies show respond to crises. Well well I have to tell you. They got the wrong end of the stick. It's democracies that respond to crisis. Well they protect liberty to protect freedom. So what again is your answer to this bit. You mentioned hunger in his statement yes absolutely specifically specifically asked about. Can you WANNA grab by me to about yeah? I'm telling you I'm reading it to you. I have read this statement Nano. No no I but but there's no no mentioning about Hungary there but anyway I agree. I agree that he was asked about college. Grads of the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor. Orban that's what he was asked about. That was the answer he wanted to question. But but yeah but this was the question the answer but anyway I would like to answer substantially what you asked me so. I have a personal Here I have a personal respect to to Mike of course and I'm very happy to work together with him. I agree with him. Democracy is the best answer for that and believe me the solution. We have chosen here. In Hungary democracy one I cannot do anything with the fact that the other part of let's say the external actors do not have a hundred percent wisdom about this regulation. Just like you didn't have one hundred percents. Please them because you just sat here a couple of minutes ago to your viewers that the Hungarian parliament is blocked which is totally unto others. Say that we have an unlimited gloves. Possibility to make regular use said there you said. Hungary and parliament is not in session. Which is totally untrue because it is in session and and others say you know that we have an unlimited possibility of making decrease which is not read okay. The law is lifelong. It's sorry sorry. It's less than free pages so I think it's not too challenging to read that so I would like to ask everybody who makes such kind of harsh statements on Hungary to read the law. I read and make statement and it makes sense to speak about this issue afterwards. I guess Righty Ho well. We we asked you for your response to all of this. And you've given it to us so far MINNESOTA SEATTLE. Thank you for joining us from Budapest and finally Norwegian Prime Minister. Earn a soul book. Who as we told you also wanted powerless to the end of the year decided only to to agree with her parliament? Giving them to for a month now she also said it was really important to reach out and reassure children during this pandemic so she's held a special press conference to answer questions questions that children have and she says she'll do that again ahead of opening up some schools later this month and in New Zealand. Prime Minister Gis into Auden acknowledged that children need their traditions so she promised that some very special workers were still in action but that they might be a little busy under the current circumstances. Take a listen. You'll be placed in that. We do consider both the tooth theory and the Easter bunny to be essential kids but as you can imagine at this time of course is going to be potentially quite busy at home with with the with the family as well and their own bunnies sorry. I say to the children of New Zealand. If the Easter Bunny doesn't make it to your household then we have to understand that. It's a bit difficult at the moment for the bunny to skip. Every we spoke like a prime minister and a mother all over the world leaders are making the same promise and though it might be hard for the Easter Bunny to hop over this year ordinary people are leaping into action putting colorful pictures of Easter eggs in their windows or outside so children can have a new kind of eastern on on Easter Sunday. Not to be outdone chocolate tears adding candy mosques and loves to their bodies to keep them safe. It is a sweet treat in what can be very scary times. That's it for now. Thank you for watching and goodbye.
NPR News: 10-30-2020 6AM ET
"Live from NPR news I'm Korva Coleman both president trump and democratic rival Joe Biden are scheduled to campaign in Wisconsin Today Chuck Hornbach of member station W. WM reports trump will go to green bay while Biden visits. Milwaukee to compete for votes. President trump is scheduled a whole afternoon rally at the Green Bay Airport University of Wisconsin Milwaukee. Political Professor Kathleen. Dolan says, it appears the president is trying to reenergize a media market that he won in two thousand and sixteen. If you look at the pattern of places and attempts that he's making, it really does seem to. Be a mobilizing to base strategy as opposed to reaching out to maybe more marginal voters in the Democratic stronghold of Milwaukee. The Biden campaign says the former vice president will be encouraging people to vote for NPR news I'm Chuck Hornbach in Milwaukee The nonprofit US elections project says eighty, two, million Americans have now voted early that's nearly sixty percent of all the people who voted in two thousand sixteen cleanup continues in several southern states after hurricane. Then tropical storm Zeta roared over them at least six people were killed more than a million customers still lack power from Louisiana to. Georgia from member station W. W. Teagan Wendelin reports Zeta made landfall as a powerful hurricane not far from New Orleans Congressman? Gary. Graves says that well, the storm wasn't as destructive as Laura and Delta, strong winds still caused widespread damage. This was big storm. We know that there hundreds of thousands of people without electricity without Internet access and other utility issues. Streets are strewn with tree limbs, barges, and boats have been tossed in the Mississippi River and onto the coast. New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell says, crews are working to clean up downed power lines. So please bear with. US have patients and we will get through this. At least seventy six people are being housed in evacuation centers thousands more remain in hotels after being displaced by previous hurricanes for NPR news I'm teagan Lind in New Orleans, a family of a black man shot to death this week by Philadelphia Police says they do not want the officers charged with murder they watched police body camera video of the shooting. Shaka. Johnson. Is The attorney for Walter Wallace Juniors family. She says the Philadelphia Police. Department. Failed to give the officers less lethal items to deal with people in mental crisis. The city has failed not only the Wallace family. Not only the other members of that community. Who will be scarred and traumatized for the remainder of their days but the city has also failed those police officers it's failed them. The only remedy the police had in that moment for their thinking was the service. There was no less lethal option available Wallace's family says he had mental illness and that they had called for medical help not for police. This is NPR. Voters in New Zealand appear to have passed a measure that would legalize euthanasia in that country elections officials in New Zealand say they're still counting ballots from overseas but more than sixty five percent of voters approved recently passed legislation permitting euthanasia separately, voters appear to have rejected a measure that would allow the recreational use of marijuana in. New Zealand. US and Chinese defense officials have concluded two days of talks on Crisis Management and Prevention and Beers John which reports these talks come as there's heightened tension between. And Washington. The Department of Defense says, both sides agreed on the importance of establishing mechanisms for timely communication in a crisis. They also agreed on the need to keep lines of communication open relations between China and the United States have deteriorated sharply in recent months and analysts communications have suffered that in turn has increased the risk of a misunderstanding or miscalculation that could spark a crisis between the nuclear-armed powers. The Defense Department says this week's talks were an opportunity to build. Mutual understanding China's defense. Ministry says, the two militaries will next hold video conferences on humanitarian aid in mid November and on maritime security by the end of the year John, Ruiz NPR news secretary of State Mike. POMPEO has finished a visit to Vietnam, he has been in Southeast Asia this week urging nations to reject China's influence in the region. POMPEO has taken the same message to Indonesia Sri Lanka, the Maldives and India, in the past few days China is rejecting POMPEO's message. I'm KORVA COLEMAN NPR news.
Death Is Our Business
"Thanks for listening to the frontline audio cast the enhanced audio version of our documentaries. We also produce a podcast. The frontline dispatch. Wherever you get your podcasts. Now here is death. Is our business Know on this special edition of frontline. The idea of the jazz funeral is to help the family in new orleans. The tradition of celebrating deaths hit hard by the pandemic this pandemic hit to the black community disproportionately inside to funeral homes in particular now. A funeral rector has to think the box artist to survive. People talk about first responders but we in the funeral industry relaxed responders. We have a job to death is out business. Frontline is made possible by contributions to your station from viewers. Like you thank you. And by the corporation for public broadcasting major support is provided by the ford foundation working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide at ford foundation dot org additional support is provided by the abrahams foundation committed to excellence in journalism park foundation dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. The housing simon's foundation on locking knowledge opportunity and possibilities more at each foundation dot org and by the frontline journalism fund with major support from john and joann hitler and additional support. From kourou and patricia hewitt support for frontline and for our business was provided by the john. D and catherine t. Macarthur foundation committed to building a more just burdened and peaceful world New orleans is this very complex combination of suffering and joy. Dr denise sherrington katrina forced us to think a lot about what does it mean to heal. And i think we're having a similar experience with cohen and this pandemic how do individuals come back from extreme loss loss of family members of what was normal. Do you find your way back. New orleans the city with the highest death rate in the country streets typically vibrant with music and torres. Empty tonight meantime. The hospitals are filled and rapidly running out of supplies. Things were being said about whether you could or couldn't have a funeral whether you should or shouldn't jasmine navarre of dwi roads funeral The real concern was whether or not you came into contact with a live host of covid nineteen and so brass band processions and coursing carriage procession spur currently not in play. The idea of the jazz funeral is actually to help the family jazz musician. Del fail marcellus. And the journey. From the church to the burien grou- it's a process where you cannot only think and reflect but you have people that are there to support you with jazz funeral town chardonnay funeral home ceo. Louis chardonnay the third. It's hard to tell them you get a jazz fusion but we have to mayor latoya cantrell. That is very painful. Particularly to a city like the city of new orleans how we celebrate life and how we celebrate death. You say look as limit. I'm sorry you can't come in people start crying emotionally. They get filled up. People want to say goodbye but this code is a very dangerous thing. You gotta be afraid because we got twelve bodies back there right now. maybe four have the. Kobe had the cohen in an exposed. My wife do it and a lot of my people on the staff has gotten a covert. It's all around us. People talk about first responders binders and bomber. Stephanie simon but we in the funeral industry where last responders even though we deal with on a daily basis. It's still hard no matter how cautious how safe dick minded we. Were we still on a fraud by karner dwight mckenna the nature of our business. We have a job to death. Is our business. August twenty twenty that though husband and wife. Louis chardonnay. Coda is rapid. Right now i mean we still are gone up in louisiana. I know that very well because the death rate is still hot. Just put the pitch about you. No matter what funeral home you talked on everybody's busy too much. Okay take it out. What sems- john under fiber great great wa. I had to call the kobe watch. I got that put them back further. That going right with the stanback. Let's get the people then. We'll get the family to come in here but the siblings. Nobody go in the front of come where we're going to exit everyone as a family proceeds it would say you gotta feel people's emotion in his visit. People have a joke it on the field of shannon. Vectors hands the hands of very call. That's not a mom. Was like a touchy feely person. You know somebody needs how but because of the pandemic. You can't do that now. Father come to you with our hearts heavy laura. Thank you for the opportunity to share their lynn. Adjust as as with katrina. Everybody said you know we're gonna we're gonna bounce back and six months. While it was ten years burden is heavy. And i think this could be the same way with this kobe. But the yoke is light. I just want to thank everybody in a from land. Really feel that good new orleans style the music but we just could couldn't do the kobe thing but tomorrow will be a celebration fainted avenue in. I want to remind you you do not want to be late Shopping if you're homeless others vaccine of homes in the country we've been around since eighteen eighty three. My father made cats on this very site back in the early eighteen. Hundreds blacks were buried in bonds and hostels We we were buried the way we were because we couldn't be buried by june homes and So we we start out real early to make sure that we had a proper place to be buried in a proper facility to have a funeral service in that became a business in a truly significant business in the black community with in community. Black funeral homes have had an opportunity to transition generational wealth. Jasmine navarre is director of client services at. Dwi roads funeral my great grandmother. Zoe was actually married to richard rhodes. She was a seamstress he was asleep and together. They came and built. What was a life here in new orleans. Something that has shifted since kovic is our front doors are no longer accessible by the public. We're receiving everyone through our side lobby prior ovid. We would host a james funeral or horse and carriage procession pretty regularly with jazz band and the opportunity for any onlookers to join in the celebration. All of those things have been limited. So undercurrent restrictions were not getting bands within the city to play music to promote a second line amongst the community has confirmed presumptive positive test for corona virus in orleans parish back in march when things took a significant. Turn for me. There were markers one of my colleagues passed away from her passing touched everybody. She was a light within our organization so for her pass. People were like if you could happen to her happened to me. Everybody knew that they had to do things differently. The significant shift came that following week. The phone started to ring nonstop. We were saying our people die. Daily new orleans mayor. Latoya cantrell was pretty unbelievable. Everybody was working seven days a week. And so the toll it became heavy typically work maybe four or five cases. A day stephanie. Simon is an embalmer at. Dwi roads funeral home during the time that the height of the pandemic at some point during twelve to fifteen cases a date we had an influx of bodies so we had to create another space for us to hold our bodies at times. This wrong were were full with with bags is been a very stressful time. It was like we're playing russian roulette with our own lives for a long time. I did not my family. I see them for like two months because my wife was a work in taking care of the covy cases. I didn't want to bring that home to laughing. We all know both you know loved ones or family or friends that have died because of covert ninety. And that's been very difficult. I'm sorry now. There's some sad news from the music. World ellis marsalis. The jazz pianist and patriarch of a musical. Family has died the cbs station in new orleans. Says marsalis passed away. After being hospitalized with corona virus symptoms rosella was the father of a musical family known all over the world for its contributions to jazz knew him as a spectator and appreciator of his music. Xavier university of louisiana president ronald rat. But we also knew what ellison done because of the generation of musicians who were his students. Harry connick has won his sons. Yeah the a battle with cancer. Tell faye marcellus on one hand. We were expecting that his time was soon. But cova kinda spin things up. He was very april fourth. And we had about ten people there. Jasmine navarre. i can only imagine what it would have looked like prior to pandemic. there would have been a second line and a j possession ritual of actually celebrating a life especially a life like that is what we do here. We couldn't laid to rest that. I'll tears the twinning of the bell. Nakada as an eliot whistles night last night marcellus went away kennel keys tug at their locks and run their robes and each seclusion. We've so silently most second line. No coming home of acolytes the many musician daughters and sons non-return to ring the bell to celebrate to warn in solitude number in sales of mobile a simpler things we weep karner orleans parish dwight mckenna. It was just taking hold when it began to spread across the country so rapidly when the death rate was climbing so very rapidly. It became pretty obvious that this was different. Why most viruses either contagious or deadly. This virus was both contagious and deadly. So now we were dealing with a different kind disease family practitioner. Dr steven jones will seen hypertension diabetes hypoglycemia and even obesity in conjunction with khurana virus Have led to devastating effects particularly in minority communities. Khurana vise didn't show us anything already know right. There's always been healthcare disparities mayor latoya cantrell out a doubt. This pandemic hit the black community. Disproportionately our city suffered pre kovin from large disparity gaps as related to health for example out of five hundred and sixty six deaths. Four hundred and ten were black. Residents psychiatrist and professor dr denise shervington this the lack of resources access to power in authority over one's life to create the kind of circumstances that optimally one would like with the american dream eventually creates weathering the biologic. We're in a tear in our bodies but it is highly unlikely that the disproportionate impact of kobe mortality and morbidity in the african american community is based on genetics. Initially the people were trying to say or these underlying conditions while these underlying health conditions are a result of the inequities garner dwight mckenna. These outcomes very predictable. I'm not surprised. This is four hundred years of creating an environment that was right for this call needs to happen and to overcome the black community. I think there's viruses going to be around with us for a while and we're going to be suffering the ill-effects limit on the human body the economy everything. Everything that was normal about how we used to be has had to change if we want to be safe and survey Louis charbonnet in this business in particular now a funerary. Think the box. In order to to survive a better black funeral homes have to be very very conscious. If you have to watch dollars very closely Be creative and they got to be willing to to take a chance to do certain things by show own marrow and the stole read all off. Oh soon out who des Ooh thank you. I struggled mightily once. I got the news. I mean i'm talking. I was messed up real bad. Mama love me and my sister. She loved every single churchmen. Let me tell you we might have to do this again next year on the same day. But do you realize it'd be standing room. Only twenty twenty. I don't care about you. But this coleman maybe wall if you all the while we have the hunt so many people here so many different stories of what she meant to everybody every single person the time that people come to us at their lowest dan really at the bottom of their wits. Try to bring some levity to a funeral you know instead of just being all sad I file at one at one silverline and it helps so much walk behind. I wanna give my people. The best that i could possibly afford game. I had to get special authorization to bring pausing and to the church. I had to get super special mission to allow the band to be interest ground very brief. It would just a little taste of laws. We stayed on a church grounds. When you go street it becomes a second and the second line is not necessarily immediate. Participants is anybody. Who's on the street. So we didn't. We didn't want any of that hear. Dwi roads funeral director. Richard remained boever two or three weeks limitations and a number of people that can attend the funeral always changing so we got to keep up with the mayors. In the governor's request about how many people contend a funeral closed building client services director jasmine navarre currently covid nineteen is in face to now. Indoor gatherings can be twenty five people and outdoor gatherings can be the vendor but we have a large service coming up bigger than normal during this pandemic. tonight we are remembering a well known mardi gras indian queen taken from us too soon. Kim cutie booty was gunned down in a double shooting in new orleans. East last night. Someone opened fire on a crowd. Outside of an event on re boulevard was leaving a repast win. The gunfire started through visitation. We're also planning for a funeral service and second line. We are working with the mayor's office. We're working with the city and the family to provide a service that is going to best allow folks to participate in all of the celebration while keeping everyone safe can bow taste funerals going to be very large. I'm saying scary. Large because of the pandemic tested a flood of people outside we have upwards of thousand people but number of allowed in the building is restricted. He committed to one hundred seats on the fan. Anything above that we did not pharmacy. Excuse me the city of new orleans is about to do account. There will not allow us to begin the service until there is a hundred people. That's colbert instructions from the mayor. Side jag it. Took not be on him on the sister. Stop the program in steam guest at this time. We'll begin celebrating the life in legacy of big queen. Cam lynn judy. I'll read this proclamation. Because the mayor allow us to do this. She allow us to go over the covert regulations. We need to be mindful of day. She going get some backlash. But she believes in the culture of this city. And whereas kim lynn booty was the big queen of the spirit of by ya ya demanding warns i say she was the big but the spirit of the warrior. She knowing that we were trusted to deliver services that works under restriction however given a little bit more leeway is a huge accomplishment for us. of course it's not over yet. Their thirty five indian tribes. That have come to family. The community indian culture. They are all fluid and moving and no one is standing stationary. Every organization said that we were going to stand up and work together. I don't believe here in new orleans ever get to a type of funeral is not celebration even if it's not a band if someone is traveling with the boombox and they've got some second line music here people will find a way to celebrate Dr denise shervington someone's life when they have ended their her journey through the existence. There's a beautiful way in which the celebration makes it just a little bit better. There's the letting all this pain and suffering. And i feel that it's clearly an african retention that we've come down to. I think this is what new orleans so beautifully. I feel like we're seeing some light at the end of the tunnel and i'm looking forward to the d. that we could move around without wear masks that we could feel more comfortable greeding our loved ones that we don't have to be fearful when the phone rang from our family members that someone have passed our hate that thing that this is our new in the year since the pandemic and more than five hundred thirty thousand people died from covid nineteen in the united states. At least seventy three thousand were black men women and children in new orleans. Seventy two percent of those who died were black. Despite being sixty percent of the population had such injuries directed at communities. But we have to heal ourselves. We also have to fight for justice and the two things have to go together. Each generation has had to dream and see. There is a possibility and katrina. Then corona virus taught us is that we have to continue to believe an imagine freed and move towards it. Frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you thank you and by the corporation for public broadcasting major support is provided by the ford foundation working with visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide. Ford foundation dot org additional support is provided by the abrahams foundation committed to excellence in journalism park foundation dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues. The housing simon's foundation on locking knowledge opportunity and possibilities more at hss foundation dot org and by the front line journalism fund with major support from john and joann hitler and additional support. From cool and patricia hewitt support for frontline and for our business was provided by the john. D and catherine t. Macarthur foundation committed to building a more just verdant and peaceful world. Death is business was written produced directed by jacqueline allah with senior producer. Karl borris for firelight media supervising producer. Monica navarro and consulting producer. Khloe walters wallace for frontline series senior editor. Sarah childress managing editor andrew. Mets and executive producer. Raney aronson rath frontlines. Death is our business available on amazon prime video.
Amanpour: Giuseppe Sala, LaToya Cantrell, Sarah Longwell and Mehrsa Baradaran
"Hi I'm drew bb. The host of a new podcast from CNN called great big story. About the curious side of the human experience I know that sounds like a lofty idea. Hearing me up over the course of this show we'll talk some of the most interesting people never from brilliant codebreakers to a couple building their own artificial island. You're itching for good story. You're curious like I am well I think you might like the show. Give a listen wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Hello everyone and welcome to Allan Poe. Here's what's coming up. Mayors of the world unite to build a better faira world out of the covert and racism pandemics, I'm joined by two of these leaders from New Orleans and Milan then tired being embarrassed. I had been riddled with guilt. Shame to this day for him. We've had enough these Republicans talking about that President Sarah. Longwell Co founder of Republican voters against trump is on the program, plus insofar as the market is coated with racism. Is Not going to work the color of money missive Bara. daren tells on Michelle. Martin how the banking system shuts out that communities. Welcome to the program everyone I'm Christiane working from home in London. We must not return to normal after the coronavirus pandemic that is the message from the world's most powerful mayors today as they announced their agenda for a green and just recovery, the Task Force released a roadmap for cities to tackle inequality as well as the climate crisis throughout the coronavirus pandemic and beyond. And as the disease deepens, not the only ones going all in on a green recovery, democratic, presidential candidate Joe, Biden, announcing his own plan to invest two trillion dollars over four years on clean jobs and infrastructure, PT. Listen to how he put it. These investments are win. Win Win for this country creating jobs cutting energy cost protecting our climate. That's why today I'm releasing my plan to mobilize millions of jobs. Are Building sustainable infrastructure. And Echo, clean energy future. So joining me now to mayors who cities at different ends of this corona virus pandemic from Milan is Mayor Giuseppi Sala. He's chair of the global task. Force in his city is gradually recovering off to Italy you. Remember became the European epicenter of the disease, and from New Orleans male Latour, Cantrell the first woman in the job in three hundred years and new. Orleans is currently closing down Baas. Once again is corona virus cases surge. So welcome to the program. Both of you mayors from very different parts of the world as I as I sort of outlined, can I I ask you may Asala, because I think the whole world, certainly the United States took. Took care a lot of warning, and what was going on in your country, and particularly in Milan, and indeed the first cases that came over to the east coast of America came from Italy. Just describe how you doing there. You completely out of lockdown. More or less now situation I'm the hesitation is under control. We don't enough aw. How long for how many weeks or months, but now they should we honestly under control, so we are inviting people. To come back. It's off not. It is difficult for me because. We had the two thousand that. and. So it is not simple. Now. So this. Week that it is difficult for me to say that we have an opportunity to A. Different Way. It is not an opportunity back. Because we have to come back to a new Malik. So that's really interesting. The way you call it an obligation and not just an opportunity. Let me just quickly. Ask. You can travel in in new, Orleans, I mean obviously the world is looking at the United States, which is the current epicenter along with with a Latin America and there's been a surge also in your state Louisiana, and as I said you're closing down Sambas and other other other things in new. Orleans control worried. Are you that this phase one because we're still in the first way of this? May very much, not be controlled. We'll We'll I. Thank you for for having me and Mayor Asala. I'm in regards to being worried. Absolutely are the city of new. Orleans was the epicenter. A hot spot. In the United States right at March April. And and the city of New Orleans, we came into this added as a deficit in regards to Ogden roll populations of people or those living with health disparities, but we were able to flatten that curve by ninety six percent, significantly coming out of community spread we move from phase one to phase two and we are now seeing reverse. Some were taking. We're moving in the wrong direction We are not back into community spread. We don't WanNA. Go back there, and that is exactly why. I've had to put more restrictions for example on bars, although I did allow for them to open. Not at full capacity, but open in the second phase, the new cases that we are seeing our debt are directly. Aligned with the bars in the activity that happens at bars, and so the governor took a step in the right direction closing bars, and so I am very excited about that considering that new. Orleans is the destination place in the state of Louisiana and and have a lot of bars, but at the same time we do not want to go back, so we're still doing well. But. We want to continue to do well and it required. US to could halt on bar activity. So both of your cities are very dependent on tourism and the kind of hospitality active activities that you're talking about Mayor Cantrell obviously Milan as well and much of Italy's reliant on tourism for its economy, so I guess I I want to know whether it's quite a challenge. To talk about building better amid this. Terrible pandemic also massively hit. The bottom line whether it's city budgets individual. Books etc Masala after being delivered such a body blow with the infections and the deaths. How do you see you've talked about an obligation? How do you even start as a mayor? Getting all the other mayors to build back better? Where where does this begin? What is it looked like? You were saying again. In Milan, we had time million tourist thing then joined in nineteen, but I mean working on our On our politics, our university, our activity, we have to modify the former city. You put unity of the city so now I was saying Gatien because it is an obligation to create new green jobs. It isn't a big Asian to improve the body as petition or to create. A new cycle lines. descended. Even from any investment want of you. We believe that moving. To defend our action, it is, it could be an opportunity and one crucial point data. CDs Cannot do it. So we have questing at the national government. Tuition out. Be Internationally, too young to the Subodh, our actions. And to give an example, you know better than me that the European Communities. Financing the counties that. We asking be community repeal community. To financing to amd. Subside positive view and that the oldest team you'll will. Be Females and we are asking them to get the support shoot. Go directly to sustainable city because city applying this. Okay so that is really important. Obviously, you have made a big deal about their green new deal and we've heard that word also. Cantrell in the United States I mean short of calling it that Vice, president, Biden the Democratic candidate has really thrown down a massive package that has drawn a lot of praise even from the most progressive in the party. Can you tell me though you know how you think it'll work the sort of green recovery which you're all talking about because you have you know if if Biden doesn't win. Even as how will they be able to do it given you have so much hostility from president trump, and even now he is rolling back. You know regulations. When it comes to environmental regulations. Well you know mayors. We're on the front lines why we're on the ground. And we have been focused on. Climate change climate action. We have been focused on renewable energy platforms being greener being cleaner because it's the right thing to do. A climate change is real in a city like New Orleans and Flooding due to rain water, and the the weather patterns have changed the rate of rain has increased of the rain, bombs or real, and so regardless of who the president is on the ground in my city. Green infrastructure and living with water is a priority, and it was a priority pre colon. and it will continue to be want so we're doing the work right now. Whether that is ensuring that we're building more green and blue infrastructure to whole rainwater, freeing it up from going into our drains and more importantly from getting into the home of our people, keeping our people safe as it relates to. Renewable energy platforms or make sure that people can keep that bear out of their pocket and keep the dollar in is a program we call solar for all one example that we can get into someone's home where they live more energy efficient, making an improving the air quality in which they're living in, therefore, it impacts their help in a positive way and again keeping the dollar in their pocket, because the economics of our families in our people are just it's. Critical so to mayor solace point of saying that. Hey, this isn't about an opportunity. It's about an obligation. I agree with him one hundred percent mayor. I'm going to take that away from you and we're GONNA share together. Because when we know that our cities, our destination cities. We know like New Orleans we had eighteen million visitors in our community last year and twenty nineteen, so the impact on our bottom line in attacks that we're not receiving. It's a real thing, but more importantly it's our obligation to diversify our economy to get more of our people connected to jobs with higher than a livable wage so that they can build wealth transferable well. And be better because of it. This virus disproportionately impacted the people in this city and the majority. Now I've lost five hundred and forty-three residents in my city. Four hundred and four of them are African American. That's an example disproportionately impacted, but those were living. With also health or underlying health conditions and all tie to is the economics so obligation. You're right, mayor. So so let me ask you because one of the obligations obviously I. It was the pandemic, the got so many people talking about building back better, and then it was the pandemic of racism which read. It's terrible, ugly head again in the killing of George Floyd and you do mentioned that the covid has shown an exposed how the most vulnerable like the African Americans. Americans in America the minority communities, and indeed around the world in Italy in Britain, and other places, those on the front lines of this of this crisis were the worst hit, and those with the least resources so man solid. I want to ask you very quickly before I go back to talk about the economics of this. Do you also see having to emerge? Not Just Bill Becher in terms of cycle lanes and things like that, but also in terms of justice in in terms of trying to reduce the inequality gap, trying to level the playing field of the of the racial divide, because it exists in Europe as well as in the United States. It is a problem and. Let me say a game. I cannot pronounce words paternity, but they die of. Understanding how Mike Gunther can contribute to. The now. We are suffering because we we have missing. A normal of Meighan and that is reality Soyuz. Sometime the politic, the politician discuss about many many silly things that and don. On the problem this is Robin in any case in the deepest. Rubber number one is unemployment, Melanie and the into the crisis. We've an employee memory of. Let me say six. Seven percent now you're maybe the double that. And so that? We check. We have to find the new new. which from this point of view at the end of the day CDs more or less facing the same problem. And that is the reasonable which seaport community decide what together and allowing him my miss my staff or the Mayo compelled to learn from each other and implemented I. WE blame the right action to to work. In governor. So, look, we have seen certain the United States where this administration has been hostile to the idea of environmental policy and it has. Supported the fossil fuel industry, the expense of of the more sustainable energy outlets and I just want to put the economic point four with Vice President Biden made just WanNa. Play this little bit from his announcement yesterday. These are the most critical investments we can make for the long term, health and vitality of both the American economy and the physical health and safety of the American, People Donald Trump thinks about climate change. The only word he can muster is hoax. Climate Change. Word I think is jobs. So both mayors I wanted to ask you, but I can cantrell because in the United States. It's much more difficult. It's a difficult message to convince. The. Most of the people that actually huge economic opportunity can come from climate jobs and green recovery. We had the world economic. Forum say today that a nature lead recovery could add ten trillion dollars to economies, so. How how much of a Is it for you may Cantrell to try to. Get that message to people, and is it reaching people? The fact that this could actually bring jobs to those who desperately need them. Well. You know what I think that. People have to see. and in the city of new, Orleans with these green and blue infrastructure projects that are happening. They're seeing in real time the impact, not only that it has own the communities in which they live in meaning that it's holding millions of gallons of water. That's not going into their home, so that catches your attention, but also when you tie that to real jobs and allowing people to. Earn higher than a living a living wage where they can have access to quality healthcare. That showing them, and that's providing them with the training and tools that they need to take advantage of these green and blue job. Opportunities that are again real, so I believe that when we continue to show. And Demonstrate to people that they're real and people start seeing a change mean meaning an economic shift more of our people earning a living wage, more of our people being able to build well transferable well, that sends a message, not only to that family, but to the community that seeing that happen so when they can benefit, and they see the benefit. You bring people along, and it doesn't. Just come with talk, it's action. And actually we might point out the edleman trust barometer says that mayor. Certainly in the United States have a very high trust level amongst people right now. No matter what's going on the right now you certainly do, and of course of course you speak about rogue water with such passion, because you live in the state that was devastated in the city by Hurricane Katrina and you did a lot of work building back out of that, so let me just finish with you. Man Masala in Milan. I guess I just want to know from you whether you feel that this moment. This sort of tipping point moment that many people are hoping it will be will persist, you know. Will this goodwill? Continues to try to build back better. Will the funds really be there? Will you be able to do it or you're just going to be struggling to survive after the massive economic it that the whole world is taken during during this pandemic. I believe that the people is. Understanding that business as usual mapping now and they business actually do if I amen. Let me say the only way to modify this social environmental. Our social life is to work on CD's. This is the crucial point that and we are convinced, so that is a reasonable week. We have a creativity we have. We have been universities so so many reason which he it makes sense to bind on the on the seed. And let me say. Now even before even before the GOB. Discussion in my city in the Imola about. The future and the digress question was. How we adding matching Milan twenty two PM nobody day they. All the people was talking on the environment. So that that is because now it's the time. And, of course, it is very much an election issue around the world so. Mai Asada, Cantrell thank you very much indeed for joining us. Have you ever felt like you running to the bathroom more than you used to? A lot of people think it's just a sign of aging, but it may not be. I was in my forties, working corporate job and taking care of myself I didn't understand why. I needed to go so often it turns out frequent bathroom trips may be a symptom of overactive bladder or alway be a treatable medical condition. We asked people to share how it affected them. Listen in it Oh. A B. Med dot com and hear how they ask their doctor. Doctor About Managing O. A. B. Symptoms with Mir. Petric Mirror Baghran your rhetoric is a prescription medicine for adults used to treat oab symptoms of urgency frequency in leakage. Do not take. You have known allergic reaction to Mir veteran or its ingredients. Your bedrick may increase blood pressure. Tell your doctor right away. If you have trouble emptying your bladder have a week year in stream, nearby trick may cause serious allergic reactions like swelling of the face, lips, throat, or tongue trouble breathing. If experienced stopped taking, tell your doctor right away. Mere metric may interact with other medicines. Tell your doctor if you're taking fire redesign. And motherless flick, an eye Tampa core propeller known rhythm, all the Jackson the Knox and or Sullivan care. Tell your doctor if you have liver kidney problems, common side effects include increased blood pressure, common colds, flu symptoms, sci-fi rotation, dry mouth, urinary tract infection. Back Pain, constipation, dizziness, and Headache Sierra Reader's Digest magazine or call one, eight, five, five, six, nine, seven, two, three, eight, seven, learn more about. Symptoms and how Patrick may help at O.. A. B., Med dot, com, and then talk with your doctor. That's o a b M. E. D. dot com. Now. In much of the world, of course, elections determine the direction of any city or any country and the surgeon corona virus infections in the United States are shaping the cause of the presidential election campaign, but the chaotic response was again highlighted by an extraordinary and rambling Rose Garden press conference yesterday that people are still talking about where the president seemed to meander from China's threat to Hong, Kong to Corona virus to then attacking his Democratic rival Joe Biden but Mr. Trump doesn't actually have to look across the aisle for his opponents groups like Republican voters against trump of springing up and trying to convince Party members and voters to abandon this president with testimonials and ads like this one. Tired being embarrassed, I had been riddled with guilt. Shame to this day for voting for him. We've had enough voting for Donald Trump has been a monumental mistake. I'll take anybody over him. I'm voting for Joe. Biden Joe Biden. Donald Trump has to go. It's okay to change your mind we did. And it could be working this new poll from Monmouth. University shows the President Trailing Biden, in Pennsylvania, key state of course, and it was key to his two thousand sixteen victory, which he eked out just narrowly joining me now is the CO founder of Republican voters against trump. She Sarah Longwell, a political strategist and lifelong Republican, and she's joining us from Washington DC Sarah Longwell. You know right now. It's meant to be all hands on I. Can all Republicans trying to I guess any normal cycle it would be all party members trying to get their president elected, getting all excited about the convention and the rest, and looks to be very much the opposite, even the conventions. Big names is sort of dropping out. Very very rapidly. How? How did you come to the? Point where you've actually got a whole Organization of Republicans against a Republican president. Well, you know I've been out on the president. Since the moment he came down the escalator. And ever since he was elected, I've been thinking about. How do you defeat this most unfit president and I wondered. Republicans did what made Republicans vote for him, and so for the last three years. I've been doing focus groups with what I would call sort of reluctant trump voters, soft trump supporters as I think about what we do with the party going forward, and has it been totally hijacked by this sort of nationalist? Populist President and as as things went on, and you just saw him, you know. Capture the party more and more you also another thing happen, which was the party got smaller right in two thousand eighteen. We saw a number of especially suburban women walk away from the party vote for Democrats that led them to flip forty house seats, and and and as I thought looked twenty twenty. Twenty in the research I really thought well. What is most persuasive? What would what would cause people to walk away from Donald? Trump and the answer was real stories from people like them. There's a real permission structure aspect or a social aspect to the way people think about trump, and even about politics. You know it's very tribal, and so when Republican voters who right now are as. As demoralized as they could possibly be, because we are sitting not at a place where there is a a rock solid economy, but instead a double digit unemployment health crisis that's not being managed a racial crisis that the president is pouring gasoline on and and so we went and found all of these people who voted for trump in two thousand sixteen, but we're saying I'm. I'm not gonNa vote for him again. In Two thousand twenty and we encourage them to tell those stories, and then we're going to show them to other people, because there's and really this this category of soft trump supporters because we're finding that there are so many people in this moment. Who even though they were with the president for a long time are starting to rethink things. Let me, let me ask you to sort of almost go back to the beginning a little bit or step back a little bit because. You say you were against him from the moment of escalator, and there were many prominent members of the Republican. Party, we can list. WHO said the same thing that unfit for presidency. ETC But. Then you know who, by inauguration day seem to be changing their minds and people like yourself seem to be on the again on the house in terms of being behind the president and being in the heart of the Republican. Party I guess. You describe that moment when all these people I guess. Have you been looking for leaders inside the party to do what you're doing. Yeah I mean the way I would describe that moment is really has been sort of an invasion of the body snatchers type experience I mean. You just look at a person like Lindsey Graham who's a politician I always thought very well of know kind of a moderate to see him. Go from somebody who was. John McCain sidekick to being the president's one of his most supporters as just been. Like it's like living in the upside down. It's been it's been crazy. To Watch, so many of these Republicans that I've long admired. become complicit and I think the reason. That they do that is is really just an interest in proximity. To power and look back in. For a long time we looked for somebody that we thought maybe would primary the president. We thought there was a a realistic option for that, and you heard names being kicked around back in two thousand, seventeen, twenty eighteen people like Larry, Hogan, but ultimately you know as time went on the president's grip on the party, absolutely got stronger and really felt like nobody was going to sort of rise up to beat them, and that's why the moment when Mitt Romney actually stood up during impeachment voted to impeach was. was both in some ways a heartening moment to see at least one Republican do it, but in another way was devastating to see with so many the facts being so clear to have just Republicans refused to sort of Stand up in that moment and I think that was pretty heartbreaking actually for a lot of Republicans. In my position, really admire people like Susan Collins. Early Murkowski just to see them. Just not put the guardrails on this president. It's been. It's been hard to watch and and so I think that the only option there we are left with is not only Detroit need to be defeated in two thousand twenty, but he needs to be defeated resoundingly i. just can't let the party learn all of these bad lessons from the trump time that it's okay to lie that it's okay to be corrupt You know if we're GONNA have any chance ever of taking the party back and establishing it as a centre right governing party that is responsible. Than Than, not than Donald, trump and trumpism be thoroughly repudiated in this election, which is why I think you're seeing so many Republicans stand up in this moment and actively work against The party unapologetically just not scared to do it because it's the right thing to do at this time. You know you mentioned about about the support I mean he does still maintain upwards about eighty percents support among Republicans. I wonder where you there's. There's an extraordinary graphic. It shows a graph of the approval rating in other words how people see the direction, and whether they're satisfied with the direction of the country, and it was about fifty five percent amongst republicans in two thousand seventeen shortly around the inauguration time and is plummeted. Look at that steep steep drop off. To, now about nineteen percent, obviously Democrats and the others. Imagine where there would be but look at that amongst, Republicans. Do you attribute that specifically to corona virus to the the terrible surge of of of. Of Racism in America, will not the surge, but the re exposure of racism in America since the death of Joe George. Roy, what is turned that lot against the president? So it's actually pretty simple. I think it's about personal consequences for the last few years You know people like I said I, do a lot of these focus groups people just aren't paying a ton of attention to the day to day sort of craziness of trump the way that a lot of people who are involved in politics, and so you know they're just not I think turned off the same way, but the the the crisis, the health crisis, which is compounded then by an economic crisis, and then on top of that racial crisis. All of that had really as personal consequences for people, and so I've heard a lot of people say. You Know Hey. I was I was buying on trump until the corona hit, and then it became a matter of life and death, and the stakes were too high, and it seems like he doesn't care I. Mean when you when you think about the juxtaposition of so many people right now. Thinking about what am I gonNA do about sending my kids back to school or there are people are still you know living in their basements to work every day and and you've got a president who's focused on monuments. You know I love. The Washington Monument as much as the next person, but that's not really central to people's lives at the moment, and for the president to just sort of check out wave, the white flag I think that people I mean you see his numbers on on the coronavirus in his approval of the handling their incredibly low, because he's not doing a good job, I mean that's what the never trumpers were always afraid of was he was unfit for this big job and I think what the rest of the country seeing now is when you're in a crisis moment or a multiple crisis moment. He's really unfit for the moment. Sarah a lot of Republicans, who were initially never-trumpers really liked him because they liked his tax to tax reform and tax cuts for the wealthy. They like Supreme Court. Nominations. They liked all that Kinda stuff, so they stuck with him I. Guess what I'm trying to say is this has been a longtime coming, I. Mean Republicanism has essentially laid down this route. For a figure like Donald Trump you know you had even one of your co founders William Kristol. Of Our fat he was supporting Sarah. Palin as you remember that incredibly disruptive of vice presidential choice of of John McCain I just wanted to whether you think that the party itself has had a hand in where where your party is today. Yeah I think there's some of that, but I also think something bigger is happening in the country I mean. I think we're seeing kind of a populist surge. Look at Bernie Sanders on on the left and you know there's this. There's this kind of populist moment that's happening in America where people don't trust. Elites you know they are skeptical of all information I mean when I talked to these voters all the time. They never know who to trust and I think the populist moment is bigger. Than, just one candidate I think the Democrats have done a better job of holding the populace momentum on their side at bay, and that is evidenced by the fact that they nominated. A. I mean he's a relative moderate. Let's say certainly compared to the the rest of his field, whereas the Republican Party was sort of rape to be hijacked. I think the Donald Trump saw an opening, and it was certainly an opening that I wouldn't have seen I. I was. That's one of the reasons I started doing. The focus groups was I was so caught off guard by a Republican Party. That would tolerate. That that level of you know talking about Mexican judges and. And all the even even just tolerate somebody who was such a conspiracy theorist. I mean going back to Barack Obama's birth certificate, I think I think what happened. is is that that was strain always existed in the Republican Party, but it wasn't the dominant strain, and it has become the dominant strain, and so yes, I think the thing that was that was there the core that maybe some of us didn't see and certainly didn't see how dangerous it could be in the hands of Donald Trump, but I don't think it's just limited I think you're seeing around the globe. With populism and so I think what's what's important to me if part about defeating Donald Trump and I, I'm I'm I'm glad to support somebody like Joe. Biden, is you know I think that it's time to double down on liberal democracy. Because that and have America continue to be a beacon for that in the world, because I think the entire world is getting a bit on shaky ground here. Also. Can I ask you because you? Obviously also a log cabin Republican and you you? You fought for equality in certainly in in gay rights and the like, but you know again. The Republicans have made a career of certainly in modern times wedge issues. You know all those issues that we're talking about whether. It's whether it's race whether it's sexuality. Whatever it might be, it's not just populism. It's wedge issues as well. Do you think that? As, you say if he is beaten and beaten bad that the Republicans might change and not be so reggie and not drive a stake as they have been accused of certain into this administration. Between people. Yeah I mean I agree with with some of that analysis where but I do think all elections to some degree or about wedge issues, but I very much. Agree with the idea that people have used in this case. LGBT issues back in the Bush years. As a way to divide people in one of the reasons that I was as involved in Republican politics. Is that I I wanted to make the Republican Party more inclusive, and I think when when Mitt Romney lost in twenty twelve. There was a real push. You might remember that autopsy the got together. I actually thought there was this real opportunity for the Republican Party to become a more inclusive ready to try to reach out to minorities to try to reach out to women but it has gone absolutely opposite direction where it is now basically a white working class man's party, and that is a demographically unsustainable. Party there is not a big enough coalition there to deliver the kind of margins. You need to win big elections, and so I do think that if Joe Biden just absolutely demolishes Donald trump that it will send an important message to the Republican. Party that they pull the rabbit out of the hat in two thousand sixteen, but the Dave trending in the wrong direction for a long time, and they don't rethink the. The Party and entirety, and what it stands for I mean look, you can have a party. That is just an opposition party. That is just hey. We're here to save you from the far left Democrats. When I became a Republican or when I was attracted to conservative thinking it was because Conservatives and Republicans stood for something, and I just see so much less of that these days. It's really just. Hey, we're not them. And! That is not a winning message, long term and so yeah I think that that the party my hope is, is that a massive Biden victory and that's not assured i. also I'll tell you, but that a massive Biden victory will force the kind of reckoning needed in the party. Fascinating certainly fascinating to hear from a Republican how you are targeting Republican voters, and of course your colleagues at the Lincoln Project doing the same or similar and trying to go all the way down ballot as well so we'll wait, and we'll watch and thank you so much for joining us on this. Now the data shows that the median white family has times more wealth than the average black family. Our next guest Musa Baron is a law professor at the University of California Irvine in her award, winning book, the color of money, black banks and the racial wealth gap. She examines how black communities have been systematically shut out of the banking system. It's a big brick in the wall of structural racism and I'm Michelle. Martin has been looking into these issues even before the current crises that we've been talking about that a sweeping America, but of course this conversation just shows how prescient these warnings have been. Professor Mircea Barada on. Thank you so much for talking to us. Thank you so much for having me. Your latest book is called the color of money. Black banks and the racial wealth gap is specifically about the role of black banks, but your work is so much more than that one of the things that you say in the book. Is the wealth gap is where historic injustice breeds present suffering that this is rooted not just in slavery, but in the history immediately following slavery. How does slavery which ended in eighteen, sixty five have present-day consequences. One of the things I try to do in the book is to. Look, the myths that we tell ourselves about of American capitalism and then kind of show the reality show the gap between right, so the myth is that once slavery was ended. There was sort of capitalism and free markets and you. Since then there has been equality, and the reality is in the on the economic front. The American markets were not open and capitalistic and free right specifically in the protection block property, which was never their exclusion from certain jobs and market so after the civil war. And emancipation, instead of getting land the free leave did not get did not get land. They got this savings bank. They put their money in the savings. Make trusting it. I'm thinking that it was backed by the full faith and credit of the federal government, which it was not, it was advertised be, and they lost half their wages, and this is in a time of heavy segregation and. A show cropping right share cropping is an arrangement that is a debt arrangement. It was basically a freed slaves, going back to the plantations, some of which they adjust sort of escaped from and growing cotton. In the same way they did under slavery, except for they were no longer slaves. They were you know a sharecroppers of land? They were tenants That was not a wealth-building. Mechanism meanwhile a lot of white. Southerners and Westerners and easterners were able to get benefits from the Homestead Act. If you look at the nineteen thirty four era, new deal measures, those are much more consequential today. So what the one thousand nine hundred four Fha gi bills did is sort of cement that racial segregation into law and policy, and what they did is go round drawing risk maps around the country this. This is before credit scoring or anything like that, and they said look. If you live in this neighborhood, the risks are low. Your property is going to gain value, and so we're going to ensure your mortgage and the way that they determine those neighborhoods is how white they were, so if you live in a white neighborhood, and it continues and remains white. Then you get your. Mortgage insured by the Federal Government. If you live in a black neighborhood or one, that is what they called racially inharmonious meaning there were you know other races living sight each other than you were in high risk neighborhood, which meant that your? Your mortgage was not going to be insured, so those maps are followed by banks and by private lenders, well into nineteen fifty nineteen sixties, and you have. Contracts housing contracts putting racial covenants in the contract. You have HOA's. You've got neighborhood. Associations really just enforcing the boundaries of their neighborhood and excluding black and Brown people you make the argument that credit really creates wealth, and that if African Americans are locked out of the credit system, it keeps them poor. Why is that so? I want to distinguish between good credit and bad credit. Right so the good credit you know the fha loans the GI bills. The kind of stuff that is government subsides guaranteed low risk credit thirty year fixed rate mortgage things like that. That's good credit right so now you can pay if you. You have a little down payment. You can pay basically less than you're paying rent and your building equity in the house. That's a good mortgage credit that builds wealth, because then you're taking that little equity that down payment that you put down and and creating wealth, because your property is going to increase if it's in a certain neighborhood or a student loan that is low cost, you can use to go to college and then hopefully make some money and use that good credit. Bad Credit is the stuff we talked about payday loans installment credit and supreme. Credit high interest high. Risk Credit, so we were you've had. I call it a Jim crow credit market that has developed on top of the segregation patterns, and so what we've offered a lot of white communities, since the new deal to now is lower cost credit right and then to black communities. It's been installment credit subprime credit that sort of blew up in those spaces and credit that is not wealth-building so I wanted to distinguish distinguish credit. The two types of praise and we're not just talking about all. Good access right so just payday lending is not good. You make the point that white immigrant groups have it points in their history faced the same kinds of restrictions that black people have access to. They were locked out of lending institutions. They were segregated in certain neighborhoods at some point. But you say that they've had a very different trajectory you know. Tell me more about that. In fact you saw you cite the Bank of. As an example, which was formed when Italian immigrants faced discrimination, and we're ghettoized. What happened there a very different history than that of most of the banks that Iro's to serve black people what happened there? And why so different? If you look at the Bank of Italy's example, it really just show the disparate impact, the disparate sort of trajectories of the two different races, so I've Italians and Irish. Many other foreign Arabs. Mexican, he's imigrants. All sorts of people were also non white. Some are still nonwhite, but. Looking at Italians and Irish specifically kind of just shows how how these markets and sort of whiteness worked so. Pre sort of new deal. Let's say Italians and Irish were also excluded in the way that blacks were although. If you look at segregation patterns, it was never quite a stark, so when you look at the black segregation patterns in certain spaces, blacks were much more segregated than Italians Irish, but they were Italians is were excluded from these these things but post, fha. Post sort of new deal credit Italians and Irish get included in that American suburban credit market, so they do get the GI bill, not restricted from certain colleges they are able to buy in communities that are suburbs that are able to grow equity, and then so you look at Bank of Italy Bank of Italy starts as a bank just like a lot of the black banks that I highlight in. In the book as a response to exclusion, so when you have a black community or an Italian community excluded from the mainstream credit system. What happens a lot is the entrepreneurs within the community established their own bank, so bank of Italy establishes Italians aren't getting benched by other mainstream students, but once the Talian do become part of this Fha in bill credit. Big of Italy's able to thrive and. Survive in California in San Francisco and there's a lot of really great economic sort of. Tell wins, and so Bank of Italy then become sort of Your Bank of California, and then it is now bank of America. Bank of America, started as the Bank of Italy. Bake of America's is a consortium of a bunch of different banks, but yes, it starts as Bank of Italy that becomes turns into Bank of America, and and really I mean so do Italians or right Italians are Americans at as are all of us I think looking at the way that that bank works really shows how certain immigrant communities have been included in others. Others have not you also get a case study of the fact that African Americans even when they have attained some economic success are often targeted for it, and you give the example of the Tulsa riots. What I'm hearing from you and what I read in your book is that? Is that a lot of what we have sort of seen as police, violence and Other forms of oppression, really our economic terrorism. It's really intended as much to terrorize people in a physical sense as it is to kind of deprive them the opportunity to gain equality through economic standing, which is something that other. have been able to attain. Is there any place that? Contradicted that pattern I mean you do talk about Durham North Carolina. Can you talk a little about that? During my sort of contrast with Tulsa in the Durham understood that they were very precarious situation they were also very successful black businesses, but they purposefully did not bill the tallest building in town they built the a smaller, more humble building right, and so they kept that wealth, more hidden and more sort of secondary to the to the white structural. When you are a minority group in a majority environment, what the survival dictates apparently the route derm, but I will say on that terrorism point and the riot point. I mean the the majority of US history. When we talk about terrorism, we talk about riots and violence. It is white violence against blacks. A paramilitary violence of the clan, the riots in the north, and just quite frankly just particular domestic terrorism anytime. A black family moved into a white block countless stories and I tell a few of them where a black doctor or wealthy. Black person will move into a white comedian Jesse. Binga black banker in Chicago that I, highlight his house was bombed like ten times and kept moving I'm an American citizen. I can live where I want I'm Dr Austin's Austin sweet moved into a building and a white mob gather, and they started throwing. Bricks and setting a fire and they she was armed and brought his friends, and they kind of shot out in self defense, which is their right sort of you know a pre. To protect his home and he gets charged with murder, because someone in the crowd is killed by one of the bullets, and so you have actually a pattern of white violence against black homeowners. So when we talk about capitalism we have to talk about who's property are protected by the laws right and. Max Talks about the monopoly of violence that a state holds, and so we've talked about whose property is the state protecting and whose property is not protecting on the question of capitalism and you to make the point in the book. That black capitalism has been sort of embraced. Across the political spectrum few out. Time I mean from Frederick Douglass to Richard Nixon to Barack Obama. who were all? You know obviously very different people you know in theory. It should work right. In theory it should work goes back to one of the sort of the core principles of your book. Is that without wealth? There is political equality is very hard to attain so has. Isn't it work so so Nixon? Really staked his administration on black capitals, and I focus on it a lot in the book because that's kind of the world, we live in right. This theory that look what black communities need is more capitalism and more entrepreneurship. His opponent during. During that election in one, thousand, nine, hundred as Hubert Humphrey. Who says you can't have black capitalism without capital right, and that's essentially the point. I'm trying to make in the book. That's the point Frederick. Douglass Mesa Frederick. Douglass believes in capitalism, but he says you can't have freedom. You can't have capitalism without land right because if you don't have land, you actually don't have freedom and that's essentially. What happened Frederick Douglass was proved right in the post. Civil civil war era is. Because slaves didn't have land. They lost the vote. They lost access to political systems. They lost equality and freedom. We can keep talking about entrepreneurship and opportunities, zones, and things like that, but we have to look at the structures of how capital capitalism works, and what the laws of capitalism are. Capital just grows unto itself right. If you don't have capital you, it's really hard to get capital if the structure of capitals and is just going to keep sort of an perpetuating certain things. Toward capital, right so I think looking at home today right looking at. The way that property increases in value decreases in value when you still see the wealthy black people, their properties aren't increasing in value if they live in a predominantly black neighborhood, that's that's capitalism, right? That's the market coding the racial preferences of market participants right, and insofar as the market is coated with racism. Capitalism's not going to work, but also WANNA. Make the point that we have to actually have never really had true capitalism in America I think that's one of the biggest myths is. We had a lot of subsidies for white families, the FHA the new deal. Gi Bills, fha, that was not capitals. That was the government coming in. Making, maps of certain neighborhoods and guarantee mortgages, white neighborhoods, and not guaranteeing him and black neighborhoods, so if you're gonna look for where capitalism has has been, it's been in the black neighborhoods. They've had no government. Subsidies was white. Neighborhoods have had government subsidies looking at the tax code, right? We have a tax code that benefits the middle class you know through our mortgage interest deductions. College Saving Bilsel so I. Just want to think hard about what we mean. When we talk about capital sound, so give us some ideas. Some of your ideas for how you would correct this really simple. We know how to create wealth for families. We did it through the FHA. We do through the new deal so I've suggested. A new homestead act that takes some of the benefits of the last homestead act, and without some of the bad parts and looks at how cities. Evolve and looking revitalization. That is not gentrification right so what you have in a lot of spaces right now is the stripping of black spaces, whereas whites are coming back in right, so the FHA wife left to go to the white suburbs, and were able to you know gain from that, and now you have the reverse trend, and so a lot of black families are getting dispossessed of their homes. Homes and being re segregated into different areas, so disrupting those patterns and allowing people to have equity as their properties and revitalize I think looking really hard at what reparations looks like every society that has taken from You know when you look at the Holocaust. You could South Africa you look at the Japanese internment. We have done reparations. We as Americans have done reparations other countries that have done. Done significant harm to a minority in reach of the social contract that we've promised our constitution promise equal protection under the law in the thirteenth fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendment and those promises were violated. Does damage look like right? What how do we make that right? You can call it reparations. You can call a damaging call whatever you want to, but when you have to acknowledge, acknowledges the harm and then. Then go to step two and three is. How do we actualize some remedies? Talk briefly what about postal banking? That's one of the ideas that you've that. You've become known for what postal banking and why is that something that you think would help so? Postal banking is actually a an idea that I have that is beyond just for for the racial wealth gap before any communities that are. sort of in banking desert that you've seen in the banking sector is conglomeration homogeneous. Banks and they've as Bank of America. Going back to that example has sort of you know gobbled up a bunch of different banks in this. Tenure a merger way that it's done is is what it does. It closes up banks in areas that are less profitable, so we're talking about rural areas. In the south in the West in the middle of the country, white black areas that are just low income that are just not profitable for bank. So what happens in these areas is people have to drive thirty miles to an ATM, seven eleven and seven fifty right, or they can go to go to walmart or payday lender, check casher to get their financial transactions, and so the idea with the postal bank is to actually have the post office, which by by its original mission is in every community. Just allow for simple banking, so this is. A debit card so you can participate in nationwide commerce and checking account so you can pay your bills online and not have to operate in cash as simple idea. I think that would benefit a ton of communities, not just. Black and Brown community birth certainly also to the I. Don't think that's a solution to the to the vast racial wealth gap I. Need I think we need bigger guns for that, but this is a solution to A. Problem of poor families, spending ten percent of their income on financial transactions at the rest of us. Don't pay for because we have making out. Professor Marissa Barada. Thank you so much for talking with us today. Thank you so much for having me I really appreciate it. It's an honor. Exploring important solutions and a note that the book the color of money was one of the inspirations behind Netflix new pledge to invest one hundred million dollars into financial institutions and organizations that directly support black communities, so that is very good, and finally a monument moment for black lives matter here in the UK today the topple statue of the slave trader Edward Colston was secretly replaced with this sculpture of A. A protest. Who helped bring it down last month in Bristol. Her name is Jen Reed showing you raising her fist in black power salute, the figure is called a surge of power, two, thousand, nine, hundred twenty, and it's based on a photograph of read who actually climbed onto the empty plinth after the Colson statue was dumped into the harbour last month by demonstrators. Here's how she reacted to this development. It's amazing it looks like it belongs. There looks like it's been there forever I think it's something that's incredible for the moving. Is it just shows what can come out of? Our offer protest and how? It's moving forward. It's it's talking about people educating themselves as to why we have. Amount of movement. And the new figure was erected by the famous British artist Marc Quinn and at the base of the statue. The words black lives still matter that. Is it for now? Thank you for watching and goodbye from London.
"Dismissed the headquarters. The mother motherfucking crew and now listened to the motherfucking pie. Cashiered you wanna be. a part of. The motherfucking crew will visit our website at linked tree. That's l. i. n. k. t. r. dot e four slash. The mfn pot may show you like download subscribe and share content at linked tree. Mother of is a noun swab. A person place or thing what i've done. Welcome so nineteen a month bucket. Podcast season two. I'm your host guy. Bandit now kicking into my in the building show now the west bank unfortunately teams in the super bowl. But we're gonna talk about that later. I'm kick it's a my dog. Tito telemacho name is tito santana. Miguel meager thirty year. Now on special assignment out tonight. He jaded dj representing two to five years earlier as he was say also allowed on special assignment. My homeboy sally representative flyable flow adept. Picking sweet potatoes now kicking into my dog representing the west bank. The ross cloud bumper clouds jamaica and you know represent miro. Give it up to my homeboy. The man in the skyscraper. Mr headquarters was in mumbai. Man is this is Another episode fellas. We still in the building. We getting bigger. We intend different countries. Man all the way from guam. Canada germany africa anywhere man. We worldwide right now man. What's going on. Which i man how ya doing night. But i can't complain too much at all. how about you man. I can't call it now. man y'all know what's happening this week man l. super bowl. Yeah unfortunately bra. But i'll tell you though tito look kudos. Y'all i'm saying. I don't know sage i'll be us. You know what i'm saying. You're gonna be all humble. I'd try. I'll i'm not trying to win the fog out widsom. I'm gonna be was a very competitive game. You guys make some very key mistakes. But he knew plugging the versus books playoff. Yes absolutely absolutely. Got me some serious mistakes bushido but this time of game when tina do and that was a good part about it gets john and you know like i mean with the vikings sent home saying the vikings wanting to cheat the was just a dump. It was a miracle. Yeah it was a miracle because he got he got hate hate and it's all because what i got some shit on. Do they really a saint spring so easy to dj. I'm a moving along. We got proof around bright. Lotta rookie shouts of those those lsu players. There's going to be blessing. The feel super bowl signed cheese bucks. Unfortunately as the match up as well as us being saints fans but on the real congratulations to the chiefs and congratulations to Buccaneers you know. Both teams unfortunately rare. Shit thomas bought dahlem you read. You know what i'm saying. Fuck me beat everybody. So does it both teams so on real. So i would say especial congratulations to you know. Lsu guys on the field. You know shot out to a west bank representative. You know what i'm saying. He went to john dower williams. You know running. Back for the kansas city chiefs and i'm saying was also In the backfield wit limit for net out in lsu. You know leonard fournette by the way with the school s and so that's big for not only the city know also big extremely big for the west bank. You know what i'm saying. What is also big for the area general and sat out to lsu because nobody man. You had clyde edwards helaire who's also playing in super bowl. You know what i'm saying. Yeah camera hide out ban route. You know what i'm saying. Lsu so you got. That's three running backs In the game plus tehran. Honey badger up saying another saying all lump white white. Yes that's true. Yes there's that's huge other heavy up in the super bowl very heavy list super bowl. They haven't been on chairman. He's you know what i'm saying. Lsu so you got you got some. You got squat. Gambling represent this state. You know what i'm saying. Heavy state representative no doubt about I'm just saying brady. I mean i'm pretty showed motherfucker. Probably by his king cakes at walmart or some shit you thank you know if even though you know what i'm saying like fucking oh man respectfully respectfully go or less ain't no doubt about that no saying but no unlike the way it is and you just sat wrong with me. It'd be this by saying expand hurt. So maybe i'm just hurt. We all her dasher guards but Yeah good sat out. It just hung out the butts nation. Man i guess. I mean those asset optimized to my homie. Jj buck you're mad. That's my do you know. State up main. I mean. I been a dialogue fan sat out to my dog checks tax. You know he's a he's happy birthday. Happy birthday always boy down in tampa right up starting up. He asked me tim you going. I said boy. I i can't i can't go out with my wife i know. Ics grind. Right now so as you definitely let to go solo dolo. Denning have you know. I'll say this real quick number shut up. Shut out to chuck taylor nelson saying he's a heavy fucking bucks fans to him to you know what i'm saying. He ain't man with bob. Chuck taylor to he. Also a bucks fan went to to ask grew two bucks fans. I'm sorry that's the only the only three. I know which you know what on real i couldn't. I couldn't think of a better people. You know what i'm saying Chuck terry you know what i'm saying. I lied they not they not fake fans. They always been down with the team. No matter what good bad ugly they still rockwood the team. You know what i'm saying. Those cats who swiss is one day. There is fan. When i get into but in my heart of hearts i'm gonna say it is. I'm going to be these brothers. But i'm gonna see this. I think both imbalances undercover saints fans. And that's all. I'm saying thousand percent i'd be over there. You know saying washing the playoffs like you know. Normally you know normally when we need me watch maybe normally you know on our silent or saying go. Thanks hey like. I say you know my second. Love hands down is the saints. I don't want nobody else. Beating the saints unless mighty point blank period in you know what it was real we had to. We had a little little little gathering. You know what. I'm saying my son birthday we in a garage We selling on watching on screen. And i'm looking at all of these red and my dad. You know what. I'm saying came with the damn. The dam blanket wrapped around his hand. Tito had asserted on stuff wanted. He was ready. And i had all of my look at pakistan brother-in-law. Pack that's right. You know what i'm saying. I was surrounded. News me off. Wrap a they have no sex payroll what everybody had like vertically on the outfits that they brought i'm rebelling. I'm here to it her. I'm looking out talking shit going to try. I'm gonna hold it down you know. Look at t you dabble mob four four game. The eagle about we got on dow angle. I i started to be humble saying going into this but now more keep thinking about it. What the chiefs only seized going. Come on mahomes get together on a now hold. I'm talking to you. Patrick get your shit together. You know what i'm saying this evening holiday playing. You're not going to do you know what they're gonna try to go over the tablet gronk couple times gets going back to the one on one but that it didn't even amount on my bed. I hear you like. I said i'm gonna tell you like this. My personal opinion is game. Ain't gonna be hideout thank you. I'm just being like. I said about this pride again that we decided angle be. It's gonna be it ain't gonna be close. I don't think it's going to be closed. I don't think it's going to go down to shoot out. They would be a blow up going. I'm thirty four. Seventeen soi different thinking on the dama begging you different offerings that high powered offense without our defense players back. We had three people go. The first time we played against him and became back on with renault. Problem look became back. Nope we have one minute left we but when the game literally we would have won again. I'm like man. Y'all have enough time to come back. Come down twenty four fucking represented twenty four seven. I think might have been twenty. Four seven twenty four three in school wound. Been what twenty. Twenty eight older thirty one and we have enough time. does that. We had forty four seconds. ochre nattery match. You feel confident in your defense. The absolute them make devon white okay hussein. ucla delaware as a linebacker la. He drew the bits saying he ain't got linebacker slash cornerback. This four runner for come on a fast. I know that again. I want to know if he can cover tyreek He not uncover tyreek hill. He's been covering if he dropped him back. Tar heel gone over the middle. You may know about it. I promise that. I will play back like three key players out again. Who would always keep who those through three sleepless. We had our free saint dane. We had where that time went through out the game. Okay where jason. Pierre paul out the game okay. We had devon white out the game okay as three headquarters three key. Contributors abaco people being beta beat. Avail without the game. He just got activated back last game last game they were. Because he didn't play the saints. He played a championship game. Pack that okay okay. I forgot about that people that was out of the game. I'm not my bed. We shall see because this is arguably the best titan lesnar. That's the best tight end in the game. The chiefs have any teams drives galaxy. Kelsey child is. He finds a way to get open. Yes but at the end of the day. You can't do that. you also have an. You're going to syria. Just did against. The other team uses buffalo buffalo. Don't have that kind of defense to go. Hit hit him. Run around to listen to and door stupid. Shapely you know you know habit. Not not against distant. That depressed too fast as a difference. chelsea. Oh yeah we definitely we shall see and ammo texture with told you. Would that toge rochester time. That boy notice he said he going to texas. So that means you don't wanna be around no other saints fans during this game. Oh does he plan jomie. Now win protein. You say you said you confident your team. You said a few minutes ago. Thirty four seventeen. That's i. That's what i'm going okay. Gentlemen you're her tito pick he's gone. He's right with his team. he's about fan. Di hey it what it is. He's from the west bay. I'm always say you. Whereas they're bugging his but he's a tampa bay bucks for real and he's ryan with his team saying thirty four seventeen at the end of the day tomorrow. Someone's gonna win. Someone's gonna lose overlays a good game right now. Fellas was other news that we got going on in the city new orleans headquarters you talking about pre production run. What's going on in the city right before it gets it on. Let's not forget Coming late on in the show you know. We got a special guest. Coming on to talk about. Valentine's day will wanna make sure you stick around for that. Don't forget about that anyway. I had i wanted to bring a was was going on on these paris new orleans mayor. Latoya cantrell know what i'm saying. We all we all rob with matt cantrell over here so but the latest. You know what i'm saying. The way cove is going on in the numbers going up like that everything like that so she shut down all the bars in the city again. So i wanna know which. I think i mean i know half other because i don't go down where they don't really affect me so i'm cool with it but which are thinking about what's going on city a lot of people kind of pissed off or whatever whatever you know a lot of people if you look at it from both sides of the coin you know a lot of people have said they ready to get back out. You know what i'm saying. make money. yeah you know just a few days ago radio out what. i'm saying. everybody on bourbon. Doing what they do. Video went viral May cantrell was like man by the at so bitch. I'm sasso now so now. In the city you know at the time when they said everything down caught on talking about you know giving you a fine young that abridge yuna quarters you know they they really shut everything and tito wa elaborate on the tito will go ahead and elaborate on the shot down from mir cantrell standpoint while we shut in the city. Basically a man i. I don't know if people are are really understanding the seriousness of s full as For real i. Don't i mean the the pitchers lasting like facebook was like we. I mean like packed. Clubs like literally Pet pm mean in to be honest which it wasn't might be be real. It wasn't my people when i seen in the club. It's like basically they say fuck you now. See a kind of lays down to the pitches. The benefits i seen on facebook when they went into the call. That was that was snowflakes and i'm barrier. Which allowed them like they. Don't give a fuck added said looked like deaths. It looked like the flooding the worst in march. The whatever they to do over the or the ride Riots yesterday looked like they don't give in kit sunlight. I don't understand no wettest post. Just telling y'all guys okay this would needs to be. You can't have this many people in your basic your your establishment. You can't have. This is gonna people up in there used to do you wanna. Do you like undermining this person. This person a greater authority. I'm like oh mayn. At some point you have been you know what i have to respect this person. Happy respect to personal enough where she doesn't shut down my business. Neither neither democratic shutdown. It doesn't make any sense in a while. would you let dead. Stop your money flow. Let's look at it on us at the side of the coin. Look at it from the standpoint of okay. Cities open numbs down. Let me go outside. Let's have a good time. There was a there was a lot of us. Oh yeah you know what i'm saying. Everybody called me every you know. But here's the deal. What about people's free will at the end of the day and this is just from not a side of the coin that saying if i agree or disagree. I'm saying i'm just looking at playing devil's advocate. You go down you having a good time to save your business owner as a business owner. Yes dobbin right now You all you need to make some money city opened up you now generating business if your business in generating money you laying off people you laying off people. You're struggling you're not bringing in any income business. Goes down or what i'm saying. Now is appointing a. Can you continue to survive in this area without your business thriving. Now the business caves in. Where's the money. come from. Especially if you're a business owner so you as bizarre you want those people to come in you want them to you. Want to serve them food. You wanna serve liquor. You wanna do this. You wanna do that. You know what i'm saying and then also those people are ready to get out of whatever. This situation is ready. Get out of the home and have a good time trying to hang out. Everybody's been kind of cooped up for the most part or whatever but we noticed series is really open right now. A party parties going on everywhere. Houston you know what i'm saying. No salads houston but as time second home it's real but you know what i'm saying you what about that. What about people saying you know what they will take chances. You know what i'm saying. They i don't know i'm not gonna speak for these people i'm gonna say trust in their immune systems. Say trust in that. Whatever you know what i'm saying. What the main purpose was to take people that can protect themselves in the spreading of amongst people just because you're a simpson matter whatever. Whatever don't spread it off the people that can't finish themselves that bed that's the plaque attest would hick. Was you know what i mean. I'm like and i'm like now. I understand that your body may be able to handle the situation. You may catch the enemy. Be like okay. Well i do my seven days or whatever fourteen days i'm good but what about the people that are in that household. Which that can you say. That can't fend off this this this disease that we don't have a fucking cure for kid for basically where you everybody fucking guinea pigs Just food german gordon with five And bet in a it ain't witted. It's not what we will. We thought it was going to be because the person that tipped the second shot some of them. People are dying. You know like so you know so. Basically we can be used as guinea pigs to take this fucking sack in osaka medical care. Well that's that's that's that's basically the basics you know like you out there haven't been joined itself having a good time get out understand you wanna go back to normal but normally it is just not there yet because they don't have cute. Well let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Be one hundred percent honest. And i want the crew members out there listening to answer this question as well right I challenge you brought us. How many you guys outside of your home's when you go into a business or you're going to the store. i know i do. How many y'all your masks. I'm wearing my shoes. So i says we're not watch out in about why anywhere. How many amassing signed decree it now win. In the hours difference is inside at different than ours. But i can tell you the difference. So these so-called say that this is only you can only spread so many fee right so say for instance. You're in your space right anybody. That's you know this dealing with your normal you know like family member. I think they don't really account for that in this situation. Because you have no choice right. So that point mrs broken or hold up. Let me me up if you if you say if everybody's supposed to be wearing a mask out and about outside of the house you know what. I'm saying. Your house should be a so-called clean space right because it affected how you lead your life on the outside of your house so you come into your house. Anybody that's an outsider should be coming into your house win. S that's how. I should be very now. Does everybody do that. No because look at us right now in proximity let me all right so let me then. Further down this rabbit hole where there's just looking at things from sided coin. Not saying i agree disagree just conversation. Okay y'all sleep which is significant other in the bay absolutely yes. Why do snuggle up. Sometimes you facing each other breathing and each other What's the difference. I do for free. Thought think about it. Think about it. Most the reason why you wear a mask it's to prevent to prevent or two is not. It's not a one hundred percent to bring the numbers down from what they are. But hey don't don't forget a so. Don't forget you know what i'm saying. If you're late with your hand come check us out online tree. That's l. i. N. k. t. r. e. force last the motherfucking pilots spail. Hey west of the case is working. It took a while sir. But don't forget the ca- check us out on online link tree also check us out on the most part popping dot com. That's our website and also our distributor. You know what i'm saying. They pay the bills around this piece. Also we are also sponsored by allow stream media needier. we are also available on major platforms such as apple podcasts. Spotify iheartradio in also available on the black podcasts. At to the podcast. Yes sir now. Also is time phillips. You know what y'all know what time of day it is. You know what's coming right around the corner right now than at days. Right around the corner saying early. So fellas you got to appease the ladies and fellas cru memos if y'all got that special lady out there go hand the up with this valentine's day whether it's a spouse -nificant other weather's look yet hurt. May so that you doing what you do on valentine's day you know what i'm saying a lot of y'all fellas. Y'all not gang going. Oh you know what i'm saying. So what we did was. We may special reach out to beautiful young lady who's one of the stars of the show on bravo. Tv to wrong with love. The owner ravaged boutique. Ms ashley marissa. She's checking in out on youtube. She got frisky friday's going on reached out. She was like man. I'm a lead shaw. 'cause i won't talk to the fellas on valentine's day headquarters. Yeah we wanted to get a female perspective on valentine's day because you know we we some as brothers at times. You know what. I'm saying you don't always you know we'd be thinking in our own tunnel vision. Sometimes you won't be thinking about the ladies all the time you need to. So we wanted to get a female perspective in his mouth fucker. You know what. I'm saying in actually have another voicing hitting tell it like it is you know san from later perspective or what should be done. It should not be done for valentine's day so right now on the line crew members we have a special guest. This young lady is has been on. Tv shows young lady has own business very talented. Very beautiful sexy young lady. Crewmembers give it up for ms ashley. Marissa's she's on the horn right. Now we gotta start on the line. Thank y'all i'm excited. I am ready. Do i have to say. I like sexy beautiful man. Got all those. 'cause i got a paint the picture because our crew members you gotta you gotta understand. We have a lot of people who listen in a lot of people who view so those who listening to us via our multiple media platforms fifteen media platforms and over ten different countries. We want the world to understand what we are in. Oh was going on. What i'm say like i could deliver absolutely here here in studio to my left. I have Tito jones our resident bucks fan. Who's team unfortunately in super bowl tomorrow to my right. I have missed the headquarters. The man behind the glass to ross cloud bomb mcleod jamaican. And i have myself dig are banded kc shit with this thing. Oh so so. Yeah we have the fluoride rastafarian by by way of tree because of the way our work my ass off. Yeah well let's get rid of into you gotta go on the enjoying your drinking on saying she What was that. he's drinking. What's manasi twenty eight baby. Love my mood over here. The whole I'm sitting on the nowadays plan. I don't know if you know anything about that. But we're going to give the once you give us a brief synopsis for the the audience. Listening right now. Do they know the worst. I'd have what want you explain. People you know saying what is a manasi twenty to drinking on right now. Ninety class that. I was speaking about the wine. I don't know where your mind is going right now. But i was being on the red wine blend but i mean for all the people that mind is in the gutter pretty so they know exactly what i'm hopefully but we are all getting ready for valentine's day right now so you know we wanted to have a female's perspective on the show. You know what i'm saying much You know we ignorance men on his show. You know what i'm saying. So let's let's keep it up so we want you to educate as a little bit. You know what i'm saying. Take us do what would be the perfect situation for yourself. You know what i'm saying. You man came home. He wants surprise you. What would you be expecting for your man on valentine's day our say like there's several different types of women you know so you have the materialistic women that you know. They won't hurt bag. They want you know they want to be wanted done. But then you have women that like the simple thing you know like i'm old. You know lowers you know if you give me some flowers. like i ain't gonna lie my pant. His wet already knows how is different types of you know women in the world so speaking for myself. I say you know like a candlelit dinner. Something very romantic novels being fellas like stop thinking too hard. I think sometimes fellows cut of things to hardy put too much thought into the process when women's is really want from wants to listen to them and you know pay sentence. There won't be as good so one quick. Follow up question for myself. And and i give it to the rest of the guys so how we usually do on our show. You know what i'm saying. We talked about relationships a few times. So you know. I myself. No little spicer bedroom. You know what. I'm saying so. Bring you bring weapons now. Weapons from stories in the past from the stories in the past things in your bedroom. According to the room of headquarters violent in some people like to jump off the top rope. Somebody some people a still chest to the fight. Hey you know what i'm saying you know a is. A prima fight is a championship fight. So for myself. When i'm coming to the table you know i'm coming to the fight. I like the brain. Some some tools mind. You know what. I'm saying. I'm bringing a you know you might have to bring belt. You know what i'm saying. A woman might want a choke or low shakeup spies. it is. How would you feel about a spank spanking or choke a bite. Pretty much dominant. What what. I have thanks. I mean that's eight hundred. Know what that's right you about. You know like the token thing. I think it depends on your partner. You know things low pressure partner. So what whatever. They're into personally for myself. Like when i'm in the mood like anything goes anything goes and that's just what it is Bringing things to the bedroom like if you're speaking about toys and things like that. I think that keeps the relationship like fresh. And you can't be born in a relationship you know so bringing toys and things like that is so many different toys and things you can bring to the bedrooms to enhance. It is things that men can put on their penises of the make women you know. Get off you know so. It's it's a lot of things you can do. So you'd have to definitely keep it interesting even keep a fun you know when me there's There's like when you're saying that that spice enough that that extra spice map your relationship what do you do. You know you know to to make your relationship much better than what. It is any relationship right now. The way you do though. I think a lot of women They tend to forget For myself personally. I love lingerie you know what i'm looking sexy you know i'm feeling good. You know men black that. But i think women sometimes for did you know they just you know. Wanna take off the coast men love. He'll the leto hills with them. Lingerie for all of your body. You'll see it. Listen all obama bond. You know what. I'm saying like make it make it. Nice threats it up for you know ladies like i think a lot of women forget about that so Yeah let me ask you something from our view. It wouldn't be near. We will not let you. I'm pretty tame right now. Quick question what does like just say said move. Set room is right candles lit. You got your drink. You dressed up right. Man's imposition. what are some. Don't do in the bedroom to to kind of mess up the mood. What are some things that that most women are using you as an example would not want to happen to change the mood and the negative the negative way. That's that's hard a so. I would say if a guy i don't know like i don't even know that's like really really tough. I don't know far. Should i don't know renault reaction right right. Like i don't know i never really happened to me because i'm better like i'm i'm a whole vibe out here when it comes to the bare room so that happened to me you know okay. Well how about that and take walks to the mood set mitchell. You gotta happen freak. You raise already in you know. Got my oil though on and everything like a striptease gotta keep it interesting mike. Make him once you and you're not gonna get it right now diane over here to get right now. You know what i'm saying. Touch me with do not let it get it right now. Do all these grind on him making think yet to close. Get someone's out some key on talking about set out. I shot out to the women on the naked hustle. Get your money way possible. Shot out the only do for you man owner for your man you that s real quick. Okay talking about the bedroom As far as your man Is there anything that you expect him. Role reversal is when a man. When you want him to kind of take over and you kind of be the far back and let him do a show. What are some things that you expect to not a your man to kinda help. Spice up the evening kelly. I'm very dominated so really yeah man. I'm like on top like i. I like to be in control of the whole situation is another question for me but you know you gotta bring it. You know if. I'm if i'm bring it in. I'm doing everything that i need to do. He definitely need the bring it in every aspect In the bear no pump was what he's saying. So y'all telling you at a company that you have to. And i think a lot of men tend to forget that too because i said lingerie don't come to the bedroom. No cross the to write some damn lows. Yeah no come to the bedroom with ethic series. You definitely have to. You know look right dislike. You expect her to look good. Played apart ella. okay. Well that's what i'm trying to figure it. I'm trying to figure out you know I'm listening right now. I'm trying to figure out how to spice it up and make you make make it a little bit. I mean make it brand. That's that's how i look at you know wellness. I wanna make a brand new. I won't make it all yeahs. Benetton boom boom. I know i'm going to get a couple of things. Whatever i want i want to. How can i make brand new crash. That's what i wanted. Do i wanna do it right. So you know your girl better than anyone else. You have to know exactly what she likes and then they take it from there you know that she likes flowers but she like you know to be hill karez like a massage. You know what. I'm saying like a massage. Probably would turn her on baby hill. Let let me rub your feet. You know you have to keep it interesting like you know. Surprise her every now and then You well ask. I want to appreciate you coming on real quick. I know you was busy. You had to come in phone until us. We wanted to have her drop. Some valentine's they gyms we out real jam. You know what i'm saying. Peace she ain't no other look female crewmembers right where you see how we interview when the cameras. All government like new so crazy. That's right right and you have anything you want to promote right. Quick i'm us is can follow me. Iv adam orissa eighty four. You can follow me on facebook at twitter. Twitter ashley marissa eighty four Definitely hit me a also host. Then i traveled to different places. So hit me up. Make sure to go to youtube channel and make sure to check out frisky. Fridays own. You go down as the drum jams. You know what i'm saying. Make sure you're bringing laker. Y'all get into your sexy clothes because she's gonna come with it. She will come with that information. Thank you for that. We're definitely gonna do valentine's day dishes. I have on my little sexy lingerie we'll we'll get we'll get out ended ingredient talk about appear things on valentine's day friday top nato would ask them orissa definitely go with my youtube channel. That's what's up. That's what's up and Ladies and gentlemen we'll be right back with more motherfucking. Podcast hurt a man. Ask the k. Whitman she didn't drop some bombs in his bad boy tonight. Geez man. i'm kicking off tito rank week. Tito man how you like that. How you like that gasoline a- manteca was serious. Would it man. You know home sat out today. It's she gave me a little bit tips our advice as far as like all those spicing up my relationship man. I greatly appreciate it Ot lady now missed the headquarters man as the came with that pressure tonight. Big dow i feel about the compensation for those fellas wayne paying attention right. So don't take this time. That only be the time that you can you lady. You know what i'm saying. Don't let valentine's they'd been on the time that you do some nice and her birthday you posed to take care lady all year round. You know what i'm saying. The same thing comes back from her too. But take care you fucking women man and saying i'll be having a woman out there looking around our isn't i with my mandate this that never in this and the other whatever would take care of your shit you know what i'm saying but I think as he really came with she. She gave some great tips. You know what. I'm saying like you know i am. I'm like hey if you got to shake you know what. I'm saying max man all been top role a little bit a little buddha which belt you know what i'm saying like whatever the fuck you gotta do do that shit. No saying you know what you know kind of freaky shit. You women won't be okay going down do on the real man. She dropped gyms man and listen fellows for the woman told you simplicity. You'll need to go. You know what. I'm saying you ain't got go all crazy pleasant may and my attention versi deputies. Say you know what i'm saying and also just on the real man bring it. You know if y'all gonna bring it bring it you know what i'm saying. Fun date each other. You know what i'm saying. Have that at that promiscuous time. You know what i'm saying. Do what you do spies it up. You know what i'm saying. I alive man. He thought that twenty twenty was going to be totally different from two hundred twenty one because how bad twenty twenty was we thought twenty. Twenty one wasn't going to be as bad jumping out of the gate saying man we lost legends. You know what. I'm saying all time greats within our culture Hank aaron sisley tyson and just looking back at some of the annals of black history thank about what cecily tyson as phenomenal as she was a true queen true alleged but they would hank. Aaron did for us breaking the home run record. And you know what i'm saying boundaries lack prominence to baseball bone. Of course we had jackie robinson. Of course we had other great black legends. But you may you know what i'm saying says still considered the homerun king correct so losing him and also losing. Cecily tyson was legend. That was you know. Man movie icon right. How can we start off. Twenty twenty one like that. You know how we do it in new orleans right so we don't we don't focus on the negative you know when somebody passes on you know what i'm saying. We second line yes sir. You know what. I'm saying through the image on shirt saying we recognize they life So we're not gonna you're not gonna throw this on the the the fact it'd be passed away without celebrate the life of the hat and it has some tremendous lives so with that being said you know shot out to all the people that you dismissively. Tyson hank aaron you know what i'm saying legends in kings and queens in the fields so shout out absolute serbia so moment and blank history we represent black history all all all month long and this is a special year round your especially this is blackhawks. So what i'm saying is and then in is month. you know. believe it or not is lear. We had twenty nine days in the month of february. Now if you haven't been paying attention instagram. if you've been paying attention to our fleets on twitter if you've been paying attention own. Facebook and our stories every day black history month and actually all year. We have been promoted one day everyday a black information whether we promoted a black business. We've promoting black history whether we promote and black culture. We all about promoting from within a make sure that we signed bright lights on our community now with that being said season. Two of the fucking podcast where wrapping up episode nineteen. I hope y'all out there joined the right right. We had a special gas. Ms ashley marissa shot out to miss as liam orissa. I wanna follow her on instagram twitter. Facebook it's under the same adam. Orissa eighty four on instagram. Tema home while my left. Tito jones the resident bucks fan. He's got a big game on tomorrow. we got a couple of lsu out there on the field for both chiefs and bucks. Hopefully it's a good game. We already know who we want to win. A saying. congratulations. Y'all did beat us. And as a last. I'm almost two weeks ago and go. Hey make sure your check in for season. Two episode twenty coming up next week for do that make sorta struggled check out our last episode episode eighteen of the motherfucker podcast minnesota listen across all the platforms download. Life scribe comment. Thank you tune-in you wanna be a part of the mother fucking crew will visit our website at linked tree. That's l. i. n. k. T. e. r. dot e four slash. The mfn pot and make sure you like download subscribe in share content at linked tree. It's the mother fucking pie own. Bitsy feel the big little bee's.
NPR News: 09-13-2020 8AM ET
"Live from NPR News Trial Snyder to Los Angeles County. Sheriff's deputies are reported in critical condition this morning after they were shot last night and what officials say was apparent ambush they were seated inside their patrol vehicle at an MTA station incompetent at the time of the shooting Bishop Chaban Carlos. Mendez is the founder and President of the Advocacy Group Churches for action he says, he went to the hospital to pray for the deputies crowd of protesters also turned out we notice a group of people trying to get into emergency room. and. Thankfully, the officers were able to stop them and not let them enter into emergency room. The suspect in the shooting remains at large shares department says they have a generic description of the gunman. Tens of thousands remain displaced because of the wildfires burning in California, Oregon and Washington and more than two dozen people have been killed since mid August in western Oregon, the fires remained largely uncontained despite more favourable weather conditions. This weekend Oregon Public Broadcasting's Emily Cureton reports that people who evacuated days ago don't know when they can return home or what they may find Central Oregon resident. Jason. Rogers. fled his home in the Mackenzie River in the middle of the night it's still standing, but it's also still too dangerous for him to return and Rogers says not knowing exactly what has and hasn't been lost in his community is difficult to bear I. Think on this hardcore you know army guy but emotions have been running wild and I'll just end up you know start crying over attacks or something. Like tap in Rogers rural community alone the sheriff's Office reports more than fifty people are still missing for NPR news I'm Emily Cureton and Oregon to California. Now, president trump is expected to travel there tomorrow. The White House says he will travel to McClellan Park near Sacramento to a briefing on the wildfires in that state during a campaign stop in northern Nevada last night the President Attack Democrats. And repeated claims about mail in voting poll Boettger from member station. K. U. In our N.. Reno has more speaking for roughly hour and a half trump repeated several unsubstantiated claims that mail in voting leads to increase voter fraud lawmakers in the state approved a measure to move to a mail in election. Last month, he says, his attorneys are looking to have the law overturned head of the election. Court and hopefully the courts rule because this is the greatest scam. Is the greatest scam. In the history of presidential politics, these people are they've gone crazy trump also took aim at his Democratic challenger former vice, President Joe Biden telling the crowd that he was prepared to be quote really vicious as the campaigns move into the final weeks before the election. For NPR, news I'm Paul Boga in Reno and you're listening to NPR news. Tropical storm. Sally is getting stronger this morning as it moves over the Gulf of Mexico NPR's amy held reports at Sally is expected to hit the Gulf coast as a powerful category two hurricane by Tuesday. A hurricane warning now extends from southeastern Louisiana into Mississippi including New Orleans prompting Mayor Latoya Cantrell to issue evacuation orders for parts of the city not protected by levees assistant is slowing down generally building strength everyone needs to take this very seriously eric. Blake is with the National Hurricane Center and says Sally Could Bring Up to twenty inches of rain and one hundred mile per hour winds, which could push massive amounts of seawater onshore storm surge talking seven to eleven feet that's life threatening and extremely dangerous. Louisiana is once again under a state of emergency after dealing with hurricane. Laura. Late last month he beheld NPR news were casters are also keeping an eye on hurricane. Paulette Latte the National Hurricane Center says. Will be near Bermuda by tonight or tomorrow. The latest advisory says, the storm will bring a prolonged period of strong winds storm surge in heavy rainfall beginning this evening with forecasters, urging residents to take measures to protect life and property to Russia. Now, where voters are casting ballots, today, dozens of locally elections are being held and they're being closely washes a test of support for the ruling United Russia party following the suspected poisoning of opposition leader Lexington Vanni. I'm Joel Snyder NPR news.
NPR News: 12-24-2019 5PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. President trump says the. US is ready to handle whatever actions North Korea decides to take NPR's Asia roscoe reports with nuclear talks stalled. The North has threatened to so called Christmas gift. North Korea is not saying what it plans lands to do but analysts are expecting provocative action from the regime. President trump says he's waiting to see what North Korea actually does so good. We'll find out the surprises and we'll deal with successfully. Let's see what happens. Everybody's got surprised to me. Trump would not get into specifics about how the US will respond to North Korea carries out a long range missile launch. The regime has held off want such tests for the past year. A fact that trump pointed to as a sign of progress but the two sides have remained in a stalemate unable to reach an agreement on denuclearization Aisha Roscoe. NPR News to Gulf coast. Cities are are trying to recover from cyber attacks. NPR's Debbie Elliott reports New Orleans Louisiana and Pensacola Florida. Were both targeted by hackers earlier. This month New Orleans lenses working to restore online city services which are still limited after the December thirteenth cybersecurity incident. It's affecting urine property tax bills. which will we'll have to be paid by mail or at City Hall Mayor? Latoya Cantrell says the recovery has cost nearly eight hundred thousand dollars and could double computer systems are back up. In Pensacola where a cyber criminal group known. As mays claimed responsibility for a December seventh ransomware attack mayor Grover Robinson says no ransom has been paid despite a threat to public private data. The city will pay for identity protection monitoring for up to sixty thousand people who's personal information may have been compromised compromised Debbie Elliott. NPR News or bad news for Boeing word. Today of another batch of what have been described as very disturbing messages between Wean Boeing employees about the development of the seven thirty seven Max jet. NPR's Marin cost you as more documentaries have been turned over to the FAA the FAA has confirmed that it received saved. Another batch of documents from Boeing but it hasn't yet released the actual contents of those documents but there's reason to believe they will be critical of the development of the software. Here that's in question here with some thirty seven Max earlier messages by a pilot named Mark Faulkner a test pilot disclosed in October revealed his dismay with the system at at one point he calls this flight. Software egregious. This is the software. That's now been blamed for two fatal. Crashes of the seven thirty seven Max. NPR's Martin Kosti. The twin crashes were blamed for the deaths of three hundred and forty-six people and led the airplanes grounding in March. Yesterday was announced Boeing CEO. Dennis Muilenburg was stepping down immediately major. US stock market indices indices mostly flat after an abbreviated pre-christmas trading session. The Dow was down thirty six points. The Nasdaq closed up seven points this is NPR. A major demand of Iraqi protesters appears to have been met the country's parliament today announcing it's approved a new election law invade giving independence a better chance of winning parliamentary seats. That's been one of the key demands for hundreds of thousands of protesters who've taken to the streets. There Raqi security forces in some cases responded to those demonstrations with lethal force killing at least four hundred people fog in Chicago that caused flight delays earlier. Today on this busy holiday travel they were causing ripple effects and pure show Corley. Has that story the poet. Carl Sandburg says fog comes on little cat feet acute image of a silent weather condition but a problematic apple matic reality for travelers at Chicago's O'hare and midway airports dense freezing fog. That developed overnight in the city and the surrounding suburbs reduce visibility at the busy airports and officials grounded. All flights were short time. More than two hundred flights were delayed and the early morning hours which could mean misconceptions and delays elsewhere. During this holiday season officials say travel will be up about two percent more than last year at both Chicago. Airports with nearly four million passengers. Traveling through O'hare and a million at Midway Cheryl Corley. NPR News Chicago Christians of descended on the West Bank town of Bethlehem the traditional birthplace of Jesus to celebrate Christmas Eve. We've visitors converging on the town's large Christmas tree in Manger Square just beside the spot where Christians believe Jesus was born Palestinian. Marching bands greeted visitors with the sound of drums and bagpipes filling the cool air vendors. Were Hawking snacks in Holiday Trinkets I'm Jack Speer N._P._R.. News in Washington.
NPR News: 02-23-2020 3PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Barbara Klein. Italy has suddenly become the European country with the largest number of cases of the new strain of Corona Virus. More than one hundred are infected there. Npr SYLVIA POHJOLA reports. Three people have died. Dozens in towns are in lockdown in the northern regions of Lumber D. and Veneto the patients in the two. New Clusters have no direct links to the origin of the outbreak in Asia. Many of the infected have been hospitalized in Milan. Europe's third largest city with some three million people belong Mayor Abyss. Allah ordered schools be closed in. Today's I league matches have been counseled with Fashion Week. Underway in Milan. Designer Giorgio Armani show will be an empty showroom and streamed online in the Venuto region after two new cases of corona virus. Were reported in Venice Governor. Luca Zaia announced the rest of carnival. The city's major tourist event will be cancelled. The daily Letty. Puberty go reported several diocese have removed holy water from churches and told the faithful to abstain from giving signs of peace during mass so people jolie. Mtr News Rome the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the virus is not currently spreading in the US. Most of the Democratic presidential hopefuls are now turning their attention to South Carolina. The next primary contest but Bernie. Sanders has his sights set this weekend. On the Super Tuesday contest in Texas. After Latino support helped fuel his strong win in Nevada yesterday. Texas public radio's Joey. Palacios reports Bernie Sanders is on a Texas tour. This weekend hitting El Paso Austin Houston and San Antonio which is majority. Latino if elected President Sanders told voters in the Alamo city he'd reverse trump's immigration decisions on how first day in office through executive order. We rescind all of trump's racist immigration executive also promised to provide legal status to undocumented immigrants eligible for Dhaka in border separation policies and pass comprehensive immigration reform about fifty seven hundred people attended the San Antonio Rally Texas and more than a dozen other states vote on March third. I'm Joy Palacios. In San Antonio Afghan President Ashraf Ghani will be inaugurated later this week for a second term but Jennifer glass in Kabul reports main challenger is calling the re election invalid for five and a Half Years Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah had to share power in a national unity government brokered by the US in two thousand fourteen. After tainted elections left each candidate declaring himself the winner despite a clearer result this time with Ghani eleven percentage points ahead of Abdullah Abdullah has called the vote corrupt and says he will form his own government this is. Npr news the pilot who flew the helicopter that crashed in Los Angeles County last month. Killing BASKETBALL LEGEND KOBE. Bryant and eight others had previously been disciplined for violating. Faa rules by flying in weather conditions that limited visibility fog was reported at the time of last month's crash. There's been another deadly accident at the carnival parades in New Orleans as Patrick Madden of member station. W. W. N. reports. A bystander has been killed by a particular kind of float for the second time in less than a week authorities say a man was struck and killed by a parade float along Canal Street. The man's death comes just days after a similar incident on Wednesday. A fifty eight year old woman was run over and killed by a float. Both incidents appear to have involved so called. Tandem floats in which multiple floats are connected together and carried by a single tractor. New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell said in a press conference following Saturday nights. Death that no more tandem flutes would be allowed during the rest of carnival. Season which culminates with next week's fat Tuesday finale for NPR news. I'm Patrick Madden. In New Orleans pioneering chef restaurateur model and businesswoman. Be Smith has died born Barbara. Elaine Smith. She was a top model on magazine covers in the nineteen seventies and became a successful entrepreneurs and influencers. She suffered from early onset. Alzheimer's be Smith was seventy BARBARA KLEIN NPR news.
NPR News: 12-25-2019 1AM ET
"Live from NPR. News Washington on Giles. Snyder fog in Chicago that caused flight delays on the busy Christmas Eve travel all day may cause some ripple effects impure Cheryl Corley reports. The poet Carl Sandburg said fog comes on little cat. Feet acute image of a silent weather condition but problematic reality for travelers at Chicago's O'hare and midway airports dense freezing fog. That developed overnight in the city and the surrounding suburbs reduced visibility ability at busy airports and officials grounded. All flights were short time. More than two hundred. Flights were delayed in the early morning hours which could mean miss connections and delays elsewhere. Swear during this holiday season officials say travel will be up about two percent more than last year both Chicago airports with nearly four million passengers traveling through hair here and a million at Midway Cheryl Corley. NPR News Chicago. Rosa and trump is downplaying the threat of a Christmas present from North Korea. And we'll see what happens. We'll let's see. Maybe it's a nice president. Maybe it's the president where he sends me a beautiful vase as opposed to a missile missile test. I make it a positive and make it a nice present. You don't know you never know. The president just wrapped up a holiday tradition of thanking members of the military stationed around the world when he was asked about North Korea earlier this month. North warned of possible Christmas gift after leader Kim Jong UN on gave the US until the end of the year to ease sanctions much of the speculation has focused on the possibility of a new missile test. Trump administration has given no sign that it plans plans to give in the. US wants North Korea to give up nuclear arms for moving the sanctions president trump and first lady. Melania trump attended a Christmas received service in West Palm Beach Florida where they're spending the holidays. They then had dinner the ballroom of his cry but club Mar-a-lago to Gulf coast cities cities are trying to recover from cyber attacks. NPR's Debbie Elliott reports at New Orleans. Louisiana and Pensacola Florida were both targeted by hackers surly. This month New Orleans is working to restore online city services which are still limited after the December thirteenth cyber security incident. It's affecting urine property tax bills. which will have to be paid by mail or at City Hall Mayor? Latoya Cantrell says the recovery has cost nearly eight hundred thousand dollars and could double computer systems are back up. In Pensacola where a cyber criminal group known. As mays claimed responsibility for a December seventh ransomware attack Mayor Mayor Grover Robinson says no ransom has been paid despite a threat to publish private data. The city will pay for identity protection monitoring for up to sixty thousand and people who's personal information may have been compromised Debbie Elliott. NPR knees. And you're listening to NPR News City Court in Moscow has extended the detention of US citizen. Paul whalen Wieland is a former. US Marine accused of spying. He was detained gene by Russia's Federal Security Service in a Moscow hotel room nearly a year ago. Wheelin says he was set up saying he thought a computer flash drive given to him by a Russian acquaintance. Acquaintance contained holiday photos. Moscow says a drive contained classified information. The court has extended WIELAND's detention by three months until March twenty ninth earlier this evening. First Lady Melania trump answer calls from children across the country is part of the North American Aerospace Defense Commands Operation Norad Tracks Track Santa Program. NPR's missed reports on Christmas Eve. Tradition as part of the Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs. COLORADO NORAD defends the United States in Canada Year round but on Christmas Eve the basis tasked with a special mission to trek Senate as he delivers presents to children around the world. Major Injury Tennessee is a public affairs officer with Canadian Armed Forces so we saw Santa Take off from the North Pole at roughly four. Am Mountain time We locked onto him with the North Warning System. Radars that we have And because Rudolph's nose gives off a unique he signature We've been able to track him with infrared satellites and he's making making his way around the world. Hennessy says NORAD expects to track some billion presence being delivered by Christmas morning. Children and families across the world can also tracks vaccine is path in real time at Norad. SANA dot Org Dave Mistake N._p._R.. News and Joyal Snyder in Washington.
NPR News: 07-13-2019 4AM ET
"Support for this podcast and the following message come from Google from Connecticut to California from Mississippi to Minnesota. Millions of businesses are using Google tools to grow online learn. How Google is supporting businesses in your state at Google dot com mm slash economic impact live from N._p._R.? News in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens more than one billion. People are bracing for the arrival of bury. The tropical storm expected to become a category one hurricane before four making landfall in Louisiana. N._p._R.'s Debbie Elliott reports that Barry could call dangerous flooding in vulnerable areas including New Orleans various already pushing water ashore flooding parts of low-lying coastal communities like grand. Ohio in New Orleans Mayor Latoya Cantrell says people should be prepared for flooding from heavy and slow moving rains this again could have high impact on the city of New Orleans. We are continuing to monitor of course the levels of the Mississippi River potential for storm surge in the river to push water levels up forecasters warn berry could bring record flooding to an already saturated South Louisiana for the first time ever officials are closing all the floodgates on the state's multibillion dollar Protection System Debbie Elliott N._p._R.. News New Orleans United Airlines is extending flight cancellations into November due to the grounding of Boeing seven thirty-seven Max planes. N._p._R.'s David Schaper reports that other carriers will likely follow suit because it could be several months before the seven thirty seven. Max is cleared to fly passengers again with the F._A._A.. Discovering a new problem in the seven thirty seven Max last month which Boeing says we'll take at least until September to fix United Airlines is now pulling the troubled plane from its flight schedules through November third at the longer the plane remains grounded by aviation regulators the worst the impact on the airlines and their passengers United American American and South West all had more 737 planes ordered that they had planned on integrating into their fleet spy now without those new planes in addition to those grounded the number of Max related cancellations grows each month united for. For example will more than double. The number of Max flights canceled each day between now and October David Schaper N._p._R.. News Chicago the Federal Trade Commission reportedly plans to find facebook five billion dollars for privacy violations as N._p._R.'s appears Camilo Romanowski reports the new sent facebook shares higher after privacy scandals nearly a decade ago facebook promised the F._t._C. it would do more to protect user data then came the Cambridge analytica scandal that prompted the F._T._C. to open a new investigation allegation into whether facebook broke its promises facebook was prepared to pay up to five billion dollars and reportedly. That's what it will do. Citing anonymous sources the Wall Street Journal says it was a three two vote along party lines. Republican commissioners approved the settlement. Moment which could end the investigation into facebook while according to the journal Democrats called for something tougher the stock market seems to think a five billion dollar hit is a win for facebook shares rose substantially after the first news reports Chameleon Domanski reporting thing this is n._p._R.. News Britain says it is sending a destroyer to the Persian Gulf amid rising tensions in the region while Iran is demanding the U._K.. Released its oil tanker seized off Gibraltar last week British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt obsess the tanker was suspected of illegally transporting oil shipments to Syria we all reacting to what is happening in a measured and careful way and we are being cleared Iran that we are not seeking to escalate the situation. The reason that the grace one will seized was because of the destination it was going to serve it. That was a clear breach of sanctions. The trump administration blames Tehran for recent tanker attacks near the Strait of four moves and says it is continuing a campaign of maximum pressure Tehran has succeeded uranium enrichment limits that were set in the two thousand fifteen nuclear deal was the U._S. pulled out of last year. The Environmental Protection Agency says farmers may resume broad use of the pesticide so fox four over for the objections of beekeepers who argued that the little known the little is known about the chemicals effects on bees so fox for us was limited in two thousand fifteen after a court ruled that the E._p._a.. Had Not fully considered the risks the agency now.