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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

10:19 min | 1 year ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"It's one of the biggest attractions to religion. Win the the solid tarsus type of moment you know or negate hit with that lightning boat. I know it's really helped a lot of people. My sister's stop smoking like in a day when she started going to church. You know the effect that it just had on her and she smoked every day and everything and i was like. That was the most fascinating thing. I've ever seen the act of giving herself to a church the expression. Yeah that and i wonder you know. Maybe psychedelics might be the kind of sit beside religion. Someone's once it becomes more wag events. I think that could well happen. I mean the fact is the experience. Many people have on. Psychedelics is a spiritual experience they have a sense of a higher power that they didn't have before and that you know shrinking of the ego unyielding. Some of yourself to that higher power. It's very much the message of aa right and absolutely Which has spiritual component and by the way you know was influenced by Was was co founded by bill. W after he had a psychedelic experience and That was an he actually. Tried to introduce lsd and a and they thought that was the messaging the message little in fact friends of bill. Were all the people that he hallucinated. Mean that is an interesting one but it was But there was definitely some psychedelic. Dna in china as much as people don't really want to admit it. Yeah what what was your biggest takeaway from the whole masculine adventure in peyote adventure that you had well a couple of things. I think that we are reaching the end of the drug war and that you know in the twenty twenty election show that the voters have had it with the drug war. They voted to legalize marijuana in five states for them. Red states traditionally red states oregon voted to decriminalize all drugs and to specifically to legalize Solicitation therapy ma- the city of washington has decriminalized psychedelics. There's something going on but legalizing or decriminalizing is not going to be the end of the story. It's going to be the beginning of another story. Which is how do we fold these into our lives safely because three harmful substances people do get into trouble with all absolutely And we we need to be honest about the risks also and psychological risks when it comes to psychedelics not so much physical risks. They're not having for me And you know when second dogs arrived in the west. They they showed up in the fifties and sixties and then cumberland instruction manual and we use them recklessly. In many cases would put lsd in the punchbowl crazy spike for ninety and tell people that fan who was doing the same thing to see what would happen So how do we learn how to use them. Well well one model. We have are these traditional cultures that have been using them for thousands of years or hundreds of years and look how they use them And the lessons. I take from the native american church or other Indigenous uses of second. Alex is that you don't do it alone. if you're taking a high dose there is a there's usually an elder involved who knows the territory you do it not for casual reasons. You do it for an intentions. You wanna learn something. You wanna fix something It's it's intentional You surrounded with ritual. There are very clear rituals. Rules taboos For how you do it and people who use drugs in a ritual way are much less likely to get in trouble with them. So i think we have a lot to learn from these these cultures As we kind of enter a period of potentially of legal psychedelics. And we're just finally. We're we're does cannabis lie all this. Is it in the opium class. No it's in its own class. And what's interesting about. Cannabis is the the neurotransmitter network. That it it affects. We didn't even know it. Existed until we started researching cannabis cab annoyed network and it's it's involved with hunger and memory and emotion all these different things and I studied cannabis. Science for Earlier book of mine co botany of desire and so it's a completely separate I think it has a big effect on memory. Short term memory You know it immerses you in the present in a way few substances do because you can't you can't remember what he said and that's very interesting and now leading function that you know you. You have so much information that you're exposed to every day. If you did not have a technique for forgetting ninety nine percent of it you'd be rude. You'd be overwhelmed from network may be involved in that of like okay. We're going to save this. This is important this contributes to your life narrative. This can go. We don't need this anymore and Cannabis may be involved in that But we know it affects appetite. Obviously and that's right. He's very helpful for aids patients in the in the eighties and nineties but anyway we're still learning That we have a dedicated receptor for cannabis is kind of amazing and it's kind of the body produces its own can have an odds i didn't. It's kind of the opposite of caffeine in many ways. It's really more of a lantern consciousness. Yes than than a spotlight one. Yeah i think it is very different than caffeine. It's funny how the all the admonitions to not do drugs in the past especially those those industrial films used to shows in school. Or you know we'd was the gateway to all these other drugs and stuff. But ironically cannabis may be the gateway to more accepted social drug. Use like opiates opioids may be in psychedelics. And all these other things right. Ironically it may be the gateway drug that we were waiting for the first one and And it followed a similar path in that Medical marijuana was recognized. I and that kind of change the image marijuana from like teaching chong to you know dr welby remember it was. I used against Especially Mexican americans and that sort of thing too like despair them and make them this other and blaming the negro that smokes the marijuana's going to rape your way. Women always kind of putting nexus. Yeah no i mean. Very often Drugs association with certain populations. What's you know damn them and without question and you know psychedelics have had a fairly a free ride. I think they're mostly used by. I liked and actually like to use it. Hey this thing is a yeah exactly. But i think that's changing. I i see that out here. You know there's a group in oakland very interested that does rights of passage for Poor black youths and they're very interested in working with those zyban and They see it as a as a tool to help heal racial trauma. So i think wow. That's psychedelics will is going to give away at a certain point and healthy thing. I'm fascinated by what psychedelics make do for people especially as you say. It is ironic that you did your thing on that during the pandemic when i think we are going through a trauma with this pandemic you know there's and it's bringing up a lot of anxiety for people in different ways you know the way that we're losing people. I lost my brother during it. I've been yea. I'm fascinated by that chapter a and how it addresses a lot of these feelings that were going through. That's why i think we're also at this turning point society where i think this door is open right now to you. Know having that as a tool to deal with this in a way that you know. Your psychiatrist can't do that. You know just talking about it you know and even religion all these other things outlets you know whatever. It is surprised after publishing. This is your mind on plants. Were expected a lot of pushback from mainstream psychiatry ecology. It was the opposite. Yeah they know that they need new tools. They know that they're up against a crisis and it's only gotten worse in the pandemic of people struggling with depression with anxiety. Suicide -ality and Mental health treatment really is broken in this cam and has very lousy tools. Sri's helps some people but a lot of people don't like taking them bay they have side effects they They're hard to get off their addictive themselves. Yeah and the idea that we might have a new class of drugs. That could really help people that you don't have to take every day for the rest of your life you'd once or twice is being embraced in a way. I never expected to happen. So i think we could be on the edge of a of a revolution in mental healthcare. And it couldn't come a moment too soon. I agreed fascinating last last thing i wanted to ask you. One thing i was interested in is is how long the therapeutic effect might have. It's aikido because caffeine lasts for however long during the day you know although the effective taking caffeine you know as you point takes you want to get over that but in terms of protection for therapeutic use does this effect. Does this happen affecting you. That lasts for a long time. Because since it's called a mind altering drugs yeah so psychedelics. We're still studying that depression. It seems like people seem to need a booster after six months or a year. But that's a long time but in the case of things like addiction and ocd. We're seeing permanent effects. I know that people are actually changed.

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Business is booming for tech companies during the coronavirus pandemic

Real Time with Bill Maher

06:15 min | 1 year ago

Business is booming for tech companies during the coronavirus pandemic

"It is the corona bursary Was a year ago minus two days where we did our last show here and i am boy at ended quick biden set at me the whole thing i mean i thought i was gonna come back next week. We had a panel book May i able to get a shot. July fourth biden says independence day yet. It we're going to be kind of independent. So i've been leading reading you know the year everybody's running recaps of this kind of stuff this dot. I have to start with that. I thought was most amazing. Jeff bezos law lost thirty eight million his divorce thirty eight billion divorced and he made it all back in a month may thirty five billion in one month. What does this tell us about america. Gentlemen it's worse than that. We've had one individual. Gdp of hungary to his net worth since the first virus. You on mosques just in time for him to peace out and moved to taxes so he doesn't have to pay taxes. We've seen billionaires go from one point nine trillion and wealth of four trillion. The dirty secret of this pandemic is at the top ten percent much less top. One percent are living best lives virus and that some be minute we see a lot of the we actually see places that went out of business by myself. Some of my favorite restaurant. Hey i drive by. And i wanna cry. Because they've been there for a log gone forever but the people who did if you're in the sit on your ass. Look at a screen business. Amazon apple google facebook right. They made their now worth twenty one percent of the whole economy. There we used we talk about the s. and p. five hundred it's the s. and p. seven there's now seven companies that have percent of the market cap amazon's since march has added more market capitalization than all of european retail. We have effectively four companies. That are so dominant. There's more we've been overrun. There's more lobbyists fulltime lobbyist in washington working for amazon than there are. Us senators there's more people working in pr and calms at facebook. Manicuring in march and cheryl's image than there are journalists at the washington post. Yeah we are so beyond any sense of balance in our economy. The eco-systems out of control. We absolutely need to break these companies up. Yeah it's almost like we're going to step ahead. I'm old school that stepping on a. It's almost like the way that you said there bill. It sounded nefarious. Almost like they plan or something you know not that they did of course but they took advantage of it but they took advantage of there's almost like an inevitability of this kind of progress. Let's let's call it. You know where how all that money just starts flowing in these these same directions. No matter what happens to the economy. It all keeps flowing that way but can ask this one question. When i read this about the amazon apple. Google facebook twenty one percent. I mean it was written. I forget where i read it. Maybe you yeah. It was written like oh my god. Twenty one percent of the economy four companies. Yeah but i was like. That's so bad. I thought it was eighty quite frankly. I hadn't read that. I mean the biggest four companies. Who really i mean this is. What's propping up. America as the rest of his goes to shit Is that such a big thing that those the four biggest companies are one fifth of the economy pennzoil. Not that alarmed at do we want one company deciding ninety three percent of the time when we type in overthrow government whether you get Instructions on how to build a dirty bomb or voter registration. Should one company control those decisions. Ninety three percent of the time should one person control the algorithms to decide the content that the southern hemisphere place. india rec- should one company effectively control ninety seven percent of all increase in value of all retail. The third and learn. I know you think healthcare is next right. Don't you think that walmart and is it is on. We're going to be battling to of course. Why wouldn't they want that. they own everything else. Where's the all the money going sick people. That's what america does best makes people look the fastest. The largest business in the world is us healthcare. it's seventy percent of gdp its prices. Keep going up. it's nps keeps going down. That spells here comes amazon but not only is it bad or morally corrupted these companies have so much power it's dangerous. the equivalent of the nasdaq and israel is down. Not up there vaccinating. Seven times the rate when the most powerful wealthiest people in the world are living their best lives. We don't show this virus the full-throated capitalist response. We are capable of if amazon amazon. Start if amazon stock had declined seventy percent instead of risen seventy percent in the last ten months when a van with a smile shows up in my driveway tomorrow morning someone with a somewhat jumped out in a lab coat and vaccinated us. We are living our best lives. This virus has not seen what with the. Us is capable of because stop. Stop at hurt so good. If you're the shareholder class but the other the other point is the every time you wanna talk. This guy's as usual. I said everything i wanted to say. No but the other side of it is providing a service that people like you know. I mean during the pandemic you wanted things delivered to you know so the. That's what i mean the confluence of them being there at exactly the right time with exactly the right service is was very convenient so i know so. Many people have signed up for amazon prime over the last five years because the all of the things that they come with it and amazon is amazing. The type of company that amazon is and how they position themselves to literally pacman. Every every type of that is out there. it really is. I don't think we've seen anything like that type that's He remember he cornered the diaper market. Lost like one hundred million. Just but i i don't care i want diapers to write something wrong with that guy anyway but it's not as bank

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[TEST] Charles Blow on His Black Manifesto of Great Migration Back to the South

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

05:19 min | 1 year ago

[TEST] Charles Blow on His Black Manifesto of Great Migration Back to the South

"Tuned into black on the air with lou. Thanks for tuning in you. Guys are really appreciated Wanna thank everybody For listening have a really Interesting show today charles. Blow the new york times. Columnists book called the devil. You know black. Power manifesto where he Proposes something very interesting in it Based on the great migration conforto conversation with charles sees. He's a very interesting guy. Had him on the nightly show years ago and He's very has some very interesting ideas. So we're gonna get into that a lot about black culture in that sort of thing. What's happening right now. So i won't talk about that in my Into now because we're going to cover a lot of that. But i do want to talk about some of those issues coming up. Not just for stream on you know. This is back in the air. But there's a lot of issues out there. And i believe there's a lot of i'll call it. This isn't a good phrase. But i'll call it mission confusion and the reason why i'm saying that i think there's a lot of A lot of things the black community. And i know i'm over generalizing here so i apologize for that that i think i need in order to accomplish a lot of different goals in there. They're not necessarily connected and one of the things. I'll be covering a coming up in the future not today but i want to put this on your mind. So you know i'm going to be talking about this is i. I think there are two things going on out there that are sometimes in conflict with each other. When it comes to the back community. And i will call them racial justice of versus racial grievance. Okay so i want to put that out there to you. And i'm not gonna. I know i'm teasing right now. Not gonna go into detail right now. 'cause actually have a good top charles bo coming up in and we'll talk about some of that but i want to put that out there. These are two kind of separate issues you know. One just is kind of based on laws and transforming the way that institutions are structured in and grievance which is for me kinda base more in opinions in people's feelings and up things like that. But i'm i'll go into more detail about that later. Little bit different But both very interesting both very wrote both very important. You know they're just. They're not always in cooperation with each other is one of the issues. And i think there's not always clarity around that so because i don't have a lot of time today I wanted to just say give a shoutout to The people who are on the ground helping everybody in texas right now that is gone through took time with the weather. not helped anybody did crews going to cancun which is kind of a funny story this week. But what's not funny is what's happening so many people are you know just without food and you know they're in situations they'd have faced before you know. A lot of the countries used to this type of weather but there are places that aren't used to. I'm one of those kind of places if we had that type of thing here in southern california. It'd be a mess as well but there are a lot of organizations out there that are doing some really good work. Give a shout out to my niece. Vanessa vanessa wilmore. Who is doing some of that. Work yourself with the feed. The people dallas which is a great organization and they give food directly to people They they i know they collect money but more than money. They collect resources that they can give directly to people that needed. 'cause sometimes money is great. You know you need money for things but sometimes people just need water. You know like right now you know or you know food to feed the kids right now you know and so Those grassroots organizations like that that are ended on the ground and there's a lot of them. I just mentioned hers. Because she's my niece and she's doing. I'm really proud of her. She's doing good job down there but there there are other organizations like that. I encourage you to look line if you can help. That's great you know All the support is really welcome. And finally you know i. I sent him keeping unsure because they don't have the time to. I do want to thank everybody. That was so kind. Oh let them. Before i get into that. let me just mention. I have a series on netflix. Right now command. And i didn't get a chance to talk about last week because A segment something else but Amend is the story of the fourteenth amendment and it's a documentary six part docu series that i did with will smith and the documentary group in man. It took it took a while to put this thing together and it wasn't easy but we're really proud of it now. Hope you guys get to see its educational inspirational. It's informative eye opening. it was eye opening for me. It was real really good experience to learn some of the nuances of one of our most important constitutional amendments with just the fourteenth amendment. Lot of good stuff in there. I encourage you guys. Please watch him in You can watch with your family. You know it's not one division but since detaining one division that is taken up by kids level division. I think he's gonna go to but

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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

01:30 min | 2 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Is that in March toward the end of March. That's in March. The first Tuesday march right So I I think if Bernie Wins Iowa like it could be Bernie's nominated that could be it or we could see. I like the Hillary Obama thing where it's burning bagman going at each other right. That would have to be. If there's I guess there could be a scenario Bernie wins Iowa and then all the moderates in the party. He's sort of freak out. And they rally around Joe Biden for New Hampshire and then vitamins New Hampshire and then we're off to a you know Hillary. What if anything let if warn comes back back in Iowa so look at this area where Warren Wins Iowa repeat wins? Iowa is a much more scrambled scenario. Okay because I think if either of them when it doesn't force I either Biden or Bernie out of the race and then you probably have four candidates moving on to New Hampshire. Wow and then I think it's I think it's too hard to guess. Yeah that's crazy so because I don't think and that's possible I mean I think all all four of them it easily could win Iowa. Yeah you heard. It predicted all four of them. That's all twenty six thousand anymore but the pack has this is the wilderness guys if you like politics and talking about it and John is gone. He's gone out there though and he's talking to these people. It's really great listening. I really enjoyed thank you so much. I appreciate media's killing it out there you guys congratulations on that. Thank you congratulations to you too. Actually I'm sure I'll be seeing you this year yes okay..

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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

02:20 min | 2 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Because he's in South Carolina definitely my Carolina Nevada to right maybe he's leading polls now but of course Nevada's the caucus date and requires organizing and Bernie's good organizing but then so if Biden wins I think by has is the strong favorite for the nomination if Bernie Sanders. Wow that's interesting because because I think Bernie Sanders wounds. I oh he's in a strong position Hampshire to win New Hampshire lately and then he goes to Nevada and he's a great organization there Bernie Sanders wins. The first three states doesn't matter if Joe Biden wins South Carolina Carolina because then Super Tuesday. California's voting has a very good shot of winning. The State of California's GonNa be interesting now. Since they moved it up I was that I thought that was a loser. Thing to say. How can we don't get but it's more than that because we're talking about who gets to influence later votes that type of thing? Yeah Super Tuesday. Is that in March toward the end of March. That's in March. The first Tuesday march right So I I think if Bernie Wins Iowa like it could be Bernie's nominated that could be it or we could see. I like the Hillary Obama thing where it's burning bagman going at each other right. That would have to be. If there's I guess there could be a scenario Bernie wins Iowa and then all the moderates in the party. He's sort of freak out. And they rally around Joe Biden for New Hampshire and then vitamins New Hampshire and then we're off to a you know Hillary. What if anything let if warn comes back back in Iowa so look at this area where Warren Wins Iowa repeat wins? Iowa is a much more scrambled scenario. Okay because I think if either of them when it doesn't force I either Biden or Bernie out of the race and then you probably have four candidates moving on to New Hampshire. Wow and then I think it's I think it's too hard to guess. Yeah that's crazy so because I don't think and that's possible I mean I think all all four of them it easily could win Iowa. Yeah you heard. It predicted all four of them. That's all twenty six thousand anymore but the pack has this is the wilderness guys if you like politics and talking about it and John is gone. He's gone out there though and he's talking to these people. It's really great listening. I really enjoyed thank you so much. I appreciate media's killing it out there you guys congratulations on that. Thank you congratulations to you too. Actually I'm sure I'll be seeing you this year yes okay..

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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

12:47 min | 2 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"They are or not. I don't know I wanted to ask you about Elizabeth Warren Because she came out of the blocks of couple of years ago as Financial Crusader. You Know Yeah Wall Street. Shed some really good ideas that thought and saying things that people really weren't saying yen's one of the she'd he like Sanders on this issue. Kind of voice in the wilderness that she was more about that type of reform but she's kind of change yourself more into the big socialist type. HYPOC candidate like Sanders. Yeah you know which I don't know if that helps her or not. I don't think it's helped her. Personally I don't think the Medicare for all I don't think that helps her. I don't think it clearly hasn't helped her because she has Let them out with a plan that has sort of pushed her away from Hill. Well I know I I think I have a lot of I I like with the law. I like her as that reformer fighter. I think that's what who's fighting the fight for people in a saying no motherfucker Walker. I I saw what you did. We are not again. Allow you to do that. which by the way we talk a lot about electability that an electable because she You know she talked about this debate and I interview last week and she told me about this when I asked her about electability. She's making this argument. Now you want to sort of split up the party coalitions as they yeah right now so. The Guy Got Republican brothers. Who Don't agree with a lot of issues? But when we talk about you know sticking to Wall Street. Yeah reforming Washington there. But they don't agree with their medicare for all right now. I understand the reason that she did medic. And it's funny when she first Did an interview on pods of America back in February me she. Tommy interviewed her and asked her about Medicare for all and she said look. I'm for universal health care. And there's many pathways to get there I think Medicare for all is a good pathway many pathways to get that right which I thought was a smart position from her Sir but what she soon realized is she needs Bernie's people in order to win the nomination and and and and Burns people only you want your Medicare for all our get the fuck out and so we in China klew chart this medical. Let's say you're you're either with uh or were you were forget you so. She realized that she needed a base on the left. And I think I think now looking back on it. All of these candidates we've tried tried to straddle. The the new candidates by people who they are but the new Kennedy right to straddle both parts of the party the left and the and the centre-left have not Komo Harris and people to judge and now Elizabeth Warren to it. Yeah they'd had a really hard time. No you're right about that and I was surprised by some of that actually stayed in longer than I thought that she would likely which are. I think she's real smart. She's in in the things she says. Do make sense me. She like Obama's a pragmatist artists. Yeah in many ways. And that doesn't Obama didn't run as a pragmatist. Nobody governed as a pragmatist that he ran as hoping change. You know as I as an idealist in some ways you know and people. Here's what happened. A lot of people painted things on Obama. That weren't necessarily about Obama and I was like read them books. He's not what you're saying. Is We know that he was because he opposed the Iraq war. Yes he was seen as the most progressive candidate yet are RFK. Our healthcare plan was not as progressive is Hillary's or John Edwards's not right. We and we knew we had a big argument in the primary about. This wasn't very hidden. I remember we all about it and so like you know you you can say that he governed is a pragmatist but I also think with there was a lot of hope and change in the campaign but the policy program is there. A lot of people probably don't agree with me but I think that he did. You know yeah I think we. We talked a lot about this. There's things that Obama talked about in the two thousand eight campaign that I think the progressive left would just like kick him out the Party for Telecomm- Oh you know just. It's not even at the time. He seemed viewed as one of the more progressive candidates. Right But there was I think part of the reason Obama one part of the reason Obama won in a state like Illinois. One Iowa is people did see voters saw pragmatism and They may be in. The national media. Didn't always see but they got that. They saw that he was willing to compromise willing to they got that and they saw an idealism. The minimum that was refreshing. Yeah and he and his view was. I don't think idealism is incompatible with pragmatism right. Then he found out Bujak. Yeah Okay what how has he hung around for so long. Here's here's a guy of mayor small city and You know he's an out gay man. I give a lot of credit for that story of how he tells that story. I think it's a very compelling sir. I always feel like if people don't know us a politician. It's good to have a good story. Yeah that's true and I think that helped him get some attention for sure. Great story you know but in terms of like when I think platform I'm I'm not sure this platform for me to be honest with you. Yeah I'm thinking of now's I'm speaking to you. I'm not so he started. What's keeping him around? I think what got him. The attention of the people who watch watch the primary closely from the beginning Who are college educated Liberals think and donors in the Democratic Party? And what they like is Punditry really good punditry about the Democratic Party right like our audience and five America and Buddha judge I think is like a a brilliant democratic pundit. Yeah and he talked about where the party had gone wrong. And I'm a guy from a mid western town that Donald Trump had forgotten and I'm a gay man in who's also a veteran and right. He scrambled people's notions of what a typical Democrat. Yes should be and he's young. Looks New Jewish. And he's very smart and he you you see him in an interview and he can just nail- these answers in a way that other people don't and hit a my daughter loves Buddha. Judge she she immediately is attracted to him for a lot of those reasons. Yeah like he seemed to be speaking directly to people about these issues and wasn't politicking about it Ryan and what people found that refreshing he did and what we talked about at the very beginning thing about Some of these reforms that a lot of sort of liberal an intellectual Democrats have been talking about whether it was the senate whether it's tailored for DC whether it's for for reforming the court all these things to make our institutions more democratic responsive. He's but he was talking about that a lot. which was bowled for a Democrat to do then somewhere somewhere along the line? When sort of Elizabeth Warren became the front runner or close to the front runner with by Bernie? I think people was advised. Look there is a moderate Lane A. and the Democratic Party that currently Joe Biden is occupying but Joe Biden might not be a strong candidate. And if you want to get attention again you should maybe occupy that moderate right lane And I think he's swerved pretty hard into the lane it wasn't just like sort of gradual. He has a pretty hard right. And I think peop- I think the left never forgave him for that and then he got all kinds of shit and he became you know like the the the online vitriol. Four four candidates who don't who pays off for the progressive is an unforgiving you know and it's funny because for me like I was I feel it's part of the primary process is you've got to be able to deal with as you remember it. Remember the right was killing candidates. You know the the you know. That's when we started saying the term primary right where the Republicans couldn't get enough of that. If you didn't check off everything you were just gone right you know and I. I think that's what that's what Pete has been. That's what he's been dealing with. Nationally in Iowa could still gets really really big crowds and he's got a really good organisation. Yeah which is why. I mean like the two candidates left with the best organizations in our Elizabeth. Warren p Buddha is the closest to maybe we're Obama was in terms of his connection to the two people in Iowa always. I think I don't mean that he's going to win but he he to me feels like the candidate that can connect with people. The Way Obama did but he doesn't have the you know the big personality and charisma but there's sometimes it does connect though that I give no credit. There's two parts of Obama. There's the there's the Obama that like sits down with David Brooks and talks about reinhold NIEBUHR and like you know all the Liberals in San Francisco and and in La and New Yorker. Like I love this guy. He's the greatest and I love him for that too and that's people to judge that's the bread stats peerages. Like Obama in that respect for sure but then there's the firebombed that goes to a crowd of thirty thousand people and inspires them with soaring rhetoric in the blue vote right and he has not captured that yes you know which is why he is. You talk to people like Pete. He's really really good. They like them in small crowds and they really like him interviews and then bigger rallies or in some of these debates debates. I don't think he has. I think he needs another gear and some of these because he always gives Larry Polished right on message answer that he's practiced that nails. It doesn't really take command of the stage and I think if you're going to be the better Joe Biden which is what he's trying to be. You gotTA command the stage. Yeah the better Joe Biden. Okay man thanks so much yeah of course come by Before rabbi just want to get some of your feelings on what's going to happen I I was that I will win. Is Iowa Iowa's third whatever that Monday is. Yeah Yeah what do you think's GonNa Happen. I you have no first second third in your and this is not just me being like. I don't want to say publicly. I honestly I've no idea. Any of those four candidates could win i. I'm almost positive positive. It will be one of those for camping like yeah. I also think we could get a pileup where like the difference between the four top candidates is like one percent. Now what happens in a caucus is it Do you need a plurality or majority or what you need at least in each in each district tonight in each precinct. Sorry you need at least fifteen percent of the vote to be viable okay and then if you don't if you're if you don't get fifteen percent of the vote than the people who caucus for you have to go somewhere else. Forget forget to go somewhere else to another candidate. Okay so then. So this is why second children remember everybody it's a caucus in Iowa. It's not just a straight vote that's right and it's different and that's why second choice is so important. Ah in Iowa who your second choice is because sometimes you might have to go with that second choice and then what happens is You know the percent of the rob percentage of the vote Free candidate I than the reallocation when everyone who's under fifteen percent reallocates to the other candidates then there's another one that's the will see on the news interesting. Is You gotta get up in public and state your case right. There's a lot of problems with the Caucasus. There's GonNa be anti-democratic Yes town hall style. If view anyone who is have you ever get a chance to go to one. It's wild because people are like come over here now. Let's go let's come to our guy yeah So then depending on on what the percentages are they award delegates based on. Okay Statewide I. If you win the state you get a certain number delegates and then if you win each precinct got you get a certain number number delegates. So that's what I say. Well yeah so right so delegates. The most is the way you win the nomination right. But I think look and I'll give you a couple of super delegates right which are having less power time which could be important loser idea about right so Joe Biden pulls the Iowa wins the Iowa Caucus. I think it is like a very very very likely binds the nominee. Because he can't he wasn't really. Did people think maybe he's going to win Iowa so he gets a boost from that he goes on to New Hampshire Win South Carolina and he's started steam. The second in Hampshire bringing takes I in Hampshire potentially and then they go to Nevada. Maybe Bernie Wins Nevada. Because he's in South Carolina definitely my Carolina Nevada to right maybe he's leading polls now but of course Nevada's the caucus date and requires organizing and Bernie's good organizing but then so if Biden wins I think by has is the strong favorite for the nomination if Bernie Sanders. Wow that's interesting because because I think Bernie Sanders wounds. I oh he's in a strong position Hampshire to win New Hampshire lately and then he goes to Nevada and he's a great organization there Bernie Sanders wins. The first three states doesn't matter if Joe Biden wins South Carolina Carolina because then Super Tuesday. California's voting has a very good shot of winning. The State of California's GonNa be interesting now. Since they moved it up I was that I thought that was a loser. Thing to say. How can we don't get but it's more than that because we're talking about who gets to influence later votes that type of thing? Yeah Super Tuesday..

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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

11:12 min | 2 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"She has like he's he's too self obsessed to do that and the actually only way that we've ever gotten ahead in this country is to somehow even as we're fighting each other all the time come together across lines of race and geography class and still make progress together by but we do that and it's the it's the only way that America has ever worked and that model isn't working for us? Unfortunately it gets elected. You know Let me ask you about Biden. What your opinion is on Biden? Because right now he's front. We don't know what's going to happen. The billtown coming in and you know we'll see what's going to happen. I don't consider him what I call that charismatic leader. So he's going to have to win on something else. You know in terms of the general. I don't know if he you know. I know he has support. But there's something missing with bagging right now. There's I I'm always so disappointing after these grades because unlike if he's the front runner I'm so disappointed in him as a front runner. You know like it feels like he was a front runner by default. Not because he did something like he didn't like Bernie Sanders was the front runner. I go I get it Bernie. Put his cellphone. He put his ass out there in that that last election. He had issues that nobody was supporting. Now everybody's trained fighting him over that but I get it I would get Bernie. Biden's is more like well. He was his black friend was so to speak. I'm out and I'm saying that but you know what I mean. It's it's like it's the it's the next in line argument that we always have right. WHO's next in line? Yeah you know which to me would have made sense in sixteen. I wouldn't be salty that at all right but this is twenty twenty. Doesn't quite work right now. You know so there's got so in other words. He's not presenting anything. As far as I'm concerned you know in terms terms of leadership ways that I just think that's very harmful to have that person at the front of the ticket. It's junk the whole thing's a little worrisome. Do like Biden Titan. I worked with him and I think he's I think he's bodily. Let me put it in different way. I think Biden is who presents himself as one hundred percent you know. He's very very authentic. He has done a lot that people don't give him credit for also you know his his personal approach doesn't quite work like he stumbles way too much right now he's just trying to make points and he's not engaging people right now and he has a lot to engage people with so I don't think I think Biden has everything that he needs to have high-grade but there's something going on with the presentation of hearing and that sort of thing so to to be more fair let me he he is an Incredibly decent yeah. I generous man. I mean like you said who he is in public is who he is in private absolutely remembers. Your names birthdays. Ah like all that kind of he is. He is in old school politicians in both the bad ways and the any public tragedies to he's he's lived a life tragedy his wife. Early Look Denison Jason. There's this moment at the end of the debate. The other night in his sort of wrap up speech where he talked about people. Just getting clobbered in America right now and he's fighting for those people and he always has and I watched that and I was like that's the Joe Biden. Yeah there's a glimpse everyone's a glimpse of the Joe Biden. I remember from when he was Brock Obama's vice president Sir he was the Happy Warrior in our in our administration. And I think I don't know exactly what happened in this primary. I think a couple of things that happened I think but he joe Biden and the campaign itself his campaign. They've gotten incredibly offensive to defensive over a lot of the living in the world of people who are extremely online and all the taxis face like that and he just hasn't handled those attacks well so he's at his worst in these debates when he's challenged because then you start getting defensive and then he just said something something just because I'll beat you up just like this. The fifties right now. We'll take it out to the alley type. I think you know at first. I thought maybe a lot of the support is just is just name identification I think some of it is like I did ask all four of these scripts about the candidates and most of them had only heard of Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders thinks so few people mentioned Elizabeth Warren couple people in the Arizona Group mentioned people to judge no one else right right and there is this feeling of so you know my view on the Democratic Electric this time round the emotion that is In the background of of this whole primaries fear people so afraid that we're not going to be donald trump right and so I called though cinna campaigns by the way but by cynical I mean. You're running against something rather than force and it's very danger. Yes a very very difficult for cynical campaigns to win some have but it isn't easy well the problem and the campaign shouldn't be like that but it's it's hard when the electric feels like that exactly that you're in some yeah and so the electorate is feeling very and it feels familiar to me because the first campaign campaign I ever worked on was John Kerry's campaign right out of college and as a cynical campaign and we'll Howard Dean was the candidate of the left and progressives and we all exciting but then As the voting got underway in Iowa everyone was like John Kerry's a war hero. He seems safe. He seems electable. We're going with John Kerry and then we of course know happen and and I do see something similar happened and I'll say just when I mean again by Sinica it's because I feel he ran against Bush and he didn't run for John Kerry you know and it and it sounds very general but at the end of the day. You better be running for something against an incumbent have to be you know you have to that. Incumbent has weighed that bully. Early pulpit is way more powerful than people realize no and look at traditionally against an incumbent When you're running against an incumbent the political strategy is you WANNA make it in a referendum on the incumbent? This is usually what happens. I think in this election. Democrats have to run making this a choice which is usually owned. Do when you're run against a combat but I think with trump on the ticket of say. Here's his vision. Here's our vision and our vision has to be positive has to be spelled out. And I don't think Joe Biden has I think he I mean it's funny if no one cares about policy details anymore or platforms anymore. We don't talk about that. He's got a more progressive platform than even Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. Right like the policies are there. He's in talk doc about them as much I think he has not performed as well as he should in these debates I would like like I said but you talked to a lot of voters and they feel. There's a comfort with Joe Biden right and particularly like I mean. He is so far ahead with black voters more and I think some of its association with Obama. But it's also more you know half the party have have people were Democrat voters. Identify themselves as moderates right. They don't I and and a lot of black voters identify themselves. As moderates particularly mini black voters are socially conservative which allow people just that? I say their church. That's what I I say. All the Turkey black voters so well. So I talked to Stacey Abrams about this wilderness. So bad episode will be out next week. She's awesome she's fantastic. She's brilliant million and I asked her about this and she said low propensity voters voters and she goes. WHOA why we have a lot of experience with in Georgia? People who don't often vote. They only vote once in a while and they are poor white voters and there are a lot of poor black voters in middle class. Back about and When a politician comes and just tells them To dream and to think big and to propose big ideas sometimes they chafe at that because they think I don't know if I can afford take a risk on a dream because I'm just trying to raise my family I want. I gotTa Pay Some bills so I want to know what your plan is and I want to see what the path is to passing it and I want to see something that works and improves my life. Because she goes what happens with these voters is politician comes to town ask them to vote they go out they vote nothing changes or maybe their vote doesn't count they go back inside and then they don't WanNa vote and so it she's like. I'm not arguing for pragmatism and for people we'll talk trim their sales. I think we should be bold but I think we should be bold and make sure that we can let people know that we have a plan to deliver on that bold idea which is interesting interesting because I think we have burned over here in Biden? I do think someone like an Elizabeth. Warren has been out there trying to say okay. Here's actually my path to getting a lot of this stuff done uh-huh which I think is sort of helpful but I think a lot of back to the Biden point. I think a lot of the people who were parked with buying right now are like they're not. I don't think you're paying super close attention to the race number one. Or if they are they just see him and they think he was with Obama for eight years he did a lot of things vice president. I like him I know him I feel safe with him. He's not going to surprise me. And we just gotTa get trump out of the White House. So I think that's what they're thinking but all the point you raise about what that looks like an general election action where trump is being trump and to be trump you have to be incredibly nimble and you have to be Advocating for something thing and not just that. You're not trump if that's an open question whether Joe Biden can run that kind of campaign yet because also haven't seen it yet well it doesn't mean it's possible that I haven't seen it yet and the income it has not just what their plan with their ideas. Are they have a record. Yep so that's you're running against a record now it's not just you can't just say this guy scary you have to. There's a record. Now you need to prove that can be disproven and that sort of thing the promise that like all four of these potential You say nominees Biden Sanders Buddha. J. Jet you say okay. I'm all for these. Potential nominees. Have Different challenges colleges right like if one of them was like the sure thing that you that you know that there wouldn't be a race right now but like you know. I sat in groups finding the Milwaukee in Pennsylvania groups talked about socialism and Democratic Socialism. Burger no problems. These are the Obama. Some of the Obama trump voters It doesn't bother me what you call yourself as long as you just do something to fix this shit basic okay Miami especially Miami towards socialism was just like oh I had a couple. I had a Cuban immigrant the group I had someone from Ecuador Ecuador and and he said You know we've seen socialism Richardson's bad guy doesn't wear away it's dead differen- you know I would explain it. It's a different kind of socialism. And it's why Democrats always giving stuff out free right. And these are like black. And Latino voters in Miami who voted for Obama and I was like Carmen in Arizona. Of course the former Romney voters that voted for Hillary. They're like Bernie Sanders. There's that's that's too far to the left. So that's you know but I I do think Bernie has the potential to win back. Some of those Obama trump voters some of those older white guys in the Mid West who voted for trump but didn't vote for Hillary at that that could be a Bernie crew But so there there's Bernie's problems. I think Warren also has you know people see her as progressive as Bernie and so I think in some of the Uh you know Sh- there could be ability concerns..

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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

12:15 min | 2 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"We don't want to tell people everything's great when it's not which fast forward to today which is all I think. Think it's a danger for trump that We have not exploited as much yet like trump going out there saying this is the greatest economy ever more. People probably feel that now than they did when Obama was president. But I still think there's a bunch of people who don't feel that that he's at risk of pissing off. Yeah I I completely disagree with that. I think people like to hear good news. Even if it's not necessarily true the sunny skies better than gray skies your if people are GonNa vote and vote for sunny skies over gray skies all time because people don't politicians lying exaggerating awesome. Awesome Sherman. They do they really do. No one's GONNA penalize a politician forgiving sunny skies. WHO's not all true? It's interesting I really do. Believe that. You Know Wichita uh-huh which is why I was upset over. I like the fact that Obama always came across as the school administrator. Well now we're not there yet. You know got hard work to do. Stop it be a fucking politician promote yourself. There's times when it frustrated me whereas frustrate. Yes you're right but that's not the point. The point is not to right. The point is to lead. And we're we're having this discussion right and and we would have discussion later. It's like we're all pretty well off people right so if progress Kazan resigned says the. Everything's wonderful like yeah. We think it's wonderful to because it's an our live. No it's not about. It's not that everything's wonderful. It's what is the value. Are you that you're getting you know from this administration and assign you know. Assigning real point to that value let people feel with that value. Now you is. Don't let it seem like there hasn't been a value like any. I tried like I think a lot of the Obama administration like we. You you spend some time. I am on wanting your pilots talking about what Obama accomplish. You know you're the only Democrat. I hear say that I never hear anybody talking about the Obama Administration Ministration. Yeah none of these Democrats act like he didn't exist if any I remember they got in trouble in that first debate because they were like a ninety five percent approval rating. I has gotten like slamming and the most well. You hear this from the left to Bama didn't do enough mullet like it's such a insular you you know. BUBBLE FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK at every poll from nearby regrets. Love him have they forgotten about what politics is right. Yeah we're not talking about just the condition of things we're talking about politics. It's a dual edged sword. You yes there's thank you Obama that's the actual condition. Now be a fucking politician winsome. Well like you have to do both mighty on this is that I. I'm not blaming Obama. No I'm talking about the Democrats because that's your focus. Awesome now two guys. You have to politics this as well. I think people don't. It's not as important to people that you are a barometer on how things are going either good or bad right but that you are a fighter right. You're willing to say like right like if you can turn on the news to find out how things are going with the politicians to say I'm GonNa go make things better sunny skies. Here's how or guys in the sense that I have a hopeful optimistic for the future direct. And I'm going to lead us there absolutely uh and you don't hear that as much right I just I think I mean look on their face. It's it's yeah. It's happy warrior the debate. I WanNa see all of these candidates. Want at least one or all of them Be Happy Warriors here fight like lease smile. Yes Li like. I always like when I break it down in in silly comic terms. Like I'll say in my estimation like the like in in the most superficial way the best looking candidate usually wins the presidency. Yeah the funniest candidate twenty. Yes yes yes But the charismatic the more charismatic candidate usually use the present young wins the presidency. If you look back that usually works out like the the good looking. When I won't I'd say but I mean the the most charismatic when the one that connects with people Through like personal charisma tends to win out right time and time again which is very very interesting to me like when you look at like Obama two thousand eight if you had asked him one and this goes to this question this whole Warren Sanders thing which I talk about a tub show. Career Burns made the whole Republicans it's so ridiculous. It is but like but Jon favreau if we were having a private conversation. Two thousand seven seven and I asked Jesse John. Do you think a brother with the Middle Name Hussein could be the war heroes John McCain for president. What would you say we were pretty worried? You would say what Larry I used to be kind of black man beat this world has. This ain't no guess what John Farrell head back can't we of course they said under at those conditions. No I mean you can. That's a whole silly story because you can totally see how one conversation was interpreted two different ways by both of them. Because I feel like that's y'all's private conversation. Why are they being used for politics? When you know there's a sexist assist in the White House right you know that's why I think people are like? Oh Elizabeth warns campaign leaked. That like they're they are smart people over there in campaign there is no way way that anyone on that campaign at least in the tight circle campaign including the candidate thought it would be a wise idea to insert a conversation about sexism and whether she could Women could win the presidency. Twenty days out from the caucus now was someone who was close to that campaign or thought that they were close to the campaign. You have you know in a campaign you have shirt circle of people who all think that there are friends of the candidate and friends there. Were they out there telling that story and repeating it. Yeah probably that's what happened. Yeah what what do you how do Democrats. Brad's fine. The way to lead right now. You know like I look at the candidates. I can't even look at that debate and nobody stands out to me as who I feel I should get behind as leader. You know I could say what am ideas who espoused as ideas. Yeah that's one way to look at but to me that's not good enough mm-hmm because I've always said I hate making these type of predictions but it just feels like trump's GonNa win you know it's I think the way I will start by saying the debate formats are not great for this and But it's when you get to see it. Obama hated them wasn't great at them. Sure never was great. Them always hated them. He always was like these. Things aren't on the level. That's the whole point is they're not on the level. I have to play the game and it is the reason why Kennedy beat Nixon. That's right you know and I think that you have to. You have to be able to command the stage and sort of rise above both the tit for tat with other candidates and and the policy details That are being asked about right. Because the the debate moderators are going to try to drag you down right exact- that's their their. Their goal is to make news and you make news by getting candidates and fights with each other and You know trying to have them say something that makes them too far to the left or controversial or so that's their giant them in a car or or create these artificial fates right and so they want you to talk about all these details on and your job on stage is to reframe the question Shen and answer what you want to answer in speak in value statements. Share right like I and I think you don't. You didn't see that as much last debate. So you start a little bit in some of the closing statement which they had prepared ahead of time share right like I think Joe Biden sort of got there at the end with warranted Bernie. Didn't I mean they all sort of got there at the end and but in the middle of the debate is you have to be able to stand out. Yeah I not just speaking about specific issues but look. There's you speak about the elephant in the room right. There's something deeply wrong in the country right now because Donald trump is our president. And if you're not speaking to that to like what is at stake in this election and what is wrong with our democracy right now then. I think you're sort of missing the big picture right now saying that. There's something wrong is I. Think focusing on trump. Probably right where you gotta you gotTa make turn to. Yes because he continued to something something that people wanted. You know that we're seeking and that's also like why did we. Why did they not look to us for that thing that they want Yana? Which comes back to the Wilderness? You know this is the what are the things that you felt. You've learned in terms of what people want in this election right now have. Have you heard some of those things. Yeah we're we're kind of still disenchanted with the biggest. I don't know if it was a surprise but what came through most of talking to and look I talked to four different groups of voters right. So you hear people talking to swing anglers. And you're like they're all the Obama trump orders right or they're all these like white guys in the Midwest. I wanted to make sure that I found different groups. Voters talk to so I told you about the Milwaukee voters in Arizona. I talked to a group of voters who had voted for Mitt Romney and then in sixteen decided trump's crazy I'm voting for Hillary Clinton so these are former Republicans the complete opposite these as people were much more engaged. Sounded a little bit more like pundits like you know like they were watching morning joe every day you know. So they're they're you know all the parties moving too far to the left. I need a more moderate like they would say that kind of stuff and then in Miami. It was a very interesting group. I talked to people who voted for Obama in twelve and then decided to sit at home or vote third party and sixteen and it was majority black and Latino voters and you know all three and then in in Pennsylvania I talked not just disaffected. Democrats Democrat don't watch the news that much but they all four. Those groups of voters actually had similar complaints in similar hopes and the complaints. AINS were no one is looking out for me. Politics seems like a joke. The media seems like a joke. I don't hear us the media anymore. I don't trust politicians anymore. It's a game uh-huh and you know people call these some of these voters like low information voters and they say what's wrong with them trump's president don't they understand the threat to the country right now I can't they've oh well you. There's this woman that talked me in Philadelphia. She this young African American woman and she was like look. I've spent most of my life trying to figure out how to raise my child. Who has autism is an and I? I spent most of my time working and raising my child and caring for him and I would love to understand what's going on in politics because I I think it's important for me. Healthcare's important issue for me but I can't understand what's going on. I turn on these debates. It's confusing I turn on the news. Everyone's yelling at each other. They treat everything everything like a game. Everything's like a joke and I I wish there was. I wish there was an understanding class for politics where I could actually know what the issues are know. What's at stake AAC? Because I don't have time to focus on that all the time and everywhere I went. That was sort of the sentiment that like people are leading really busy lives and they want to pay attention to politics but when they do it seems like fucking circus which it is and I think Democrats are going to. It's going to be really hard to reach these people uh-huh but Democrats are going to somehow need to break through like I think the Democrats a bigger challenge than Donald Trump is the cynicism that people feel about politics read read the Democratic Party and so part of what we have to do is persuade people that a good kind of politics is still possible and raise them to believe leave in the power of democracy which is really tough. But it's the argument. That trump's argument was I loaned can fix it. The right this is the. It's the argument of a demagogue Give me all your power. I will fight your fights I will fight your enemies. The people that are standing in your way. I'll take care of them. which is why the loyalists like him regardless and even if he doesn't succeed right because they know that he's part of the fight he just want him to fight and our and our argument has to she has like he's he's too self obsessed to do that and the actually only way that we've ever gotten ahead in this.

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"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

05:38 min | 2 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Future and I don't know how much here's the thing that the Oscars people think that the academy gets in a room and says who should we nominate you doing you know. We're kind of tired of voting. Let me just say it doesn't work like that. People just vote individually for the films that they like and the actors and actresses that they like but it is frustrating trading when you see so many performances for people of Color. You don't get nominated and it. Is You know a lot of it is just personal bias. That people have they just view the world and differently like shit that is close to them. I mean really comes comes to that. I think once the academy just gets more diverse. You'll see it just work out a a little better but guys is just not that way. Now that's just the way it is you know so Tell me complain too much about that. Because what are you gonNA do. Just go to the people individually motherfucker who you voted for. Have you seen us. Have you seen it. Watch this movie before you watch Jodi Rabbit put that in you know or whatever it is not picking on Durban uh-huh battling in terms of movies. Let me tell you a great movie that you have to go see nine hundred seventeen you guys gotta go see this movie. You gotta see it on the big screen. Don't wait for come out where it is experiencing a dick and this is a cinematic masterpiece by the way. I Love Film Oblique. If I had a pod just talking about film I would be happy man but Let me tell you what I love about nine hundred seventeen in all seriousness films to me are supposed to transport you to another place. Just take you away from that theater input into into this world. Nine thousand nine hundred seventeen. Does that in a way that I haven't seen a movie do that in so long. It's so great I won't tell you much about it. But once you sit down in the movie star a to Transfix it it really. Is that type of film. Something to look forward to K. and before the before the Oscars because it may win a lot of Oscars in all the other movies. It's matter of personal taste setting. You know what you like. Don't like but seeing nineteen seventy even if you think it's a war movie don't think of it like that think of it as you will be transported and had this experience that is amazing. I don't know the people in one thousand nine hundred ninety by the way I have nothing at stake there. I'm just promoted and I think it's great. Okay so I I will caucuses coming up. It's getting serious because we just had another debate. I told you how I feel about. This is GonNa be tough to beat trump. I hate making those predictions. I still feel the same way that he's probably probably get reelected. If you listening to me I have had hope here and there certain for certain occasions that I thought well maybe it's the tide is turning but I don't know and right now here's the problem we're gonNA need. I say weird because I'm a democrat. I want trump to leave. But it's not that trump's going to get voted out somebody has to get voted in you know so. Who is that person and right now? Nobody's really sticking out to me. Is that person that everybody's GonNa get behind and vote as the leader. I think each candidate has factions. Where people like the candidate for whatever reason and they're excited about it I think Sanders in Warren. Probably have the most excited about them. I think Biden seems to have the most loyal people behind him and Buttigieg. Just I can't tell who his supporters are right now you know. But he's kind of the the outsider. I still think Kobe Charles. Maybe has a chance to do something in Iowa Past Iowa's hard to say and people just don't know who she is you know ambig- I think his name when you don't know who he is his. My name is an issue and I think you just really have to overcome that early. Like Obama Obama had horrible name for President Barack Hussein Obama and your brother running in two thousand thousand seven. Are you kidding me. That's black people. Didn't want to vote for Obama's Nigga. Please you think you can win again. It's John Gain war hero six years seven years years after nine eleven. We're going to vote for the name Hussein negative. Please come on Oh you just beat Hillary. Okay we'll maybe we can do for you. When Obama did well in Iowa? I think a lot of people turned around. Anybody can win but it took a while. He had to prove himself. You know but I think what the Democrats need to stop doing is they need to stop fighting each other in in ways that are productive fight each other on the issues fight each other to clarify your positions and things but this whole thing what's going on sanders and warrant about their private conversation in the Bernie Sanders that a woman can't win guys. Let me just cut to the Quick Bernie Sanders is not sexist. Okay and I'm not a sanders supporter. I'm a sanders supporter. As a human being. I've been bringing sanders. He's an amazing human being. I think he's a great politician but I don't support people as part of what I do. I just don't you know so. I'm not a supporter of anybody. It's not just sanders of anybody but I do support the man as a quality human being guys. I don't care if they had a private conversation. Any may said that that's a private conversation. But if you're putting that out there that Bernie Sanders is a sexist. It's just not true d say that he didn't think a woman could be trump probably early but I don't think that makes him a sexist if you want to say that thing but if that's going to be your reason for having this party divided the sexist is in the White House that's where the SASCHA says. He is not unstaged debating with other Democrats. The sexist is in the White House. Keep Your eyes on the prize. That's the motherfucker fugger they'd needs to go and get out of there. Came that kind of stuff just gets me all right. So anyhow Those are the things I'm interested.

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

02:03 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"So she, you know, decades before is seeing her role as making imaginative space for candidates like Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton. Right. And they are only right they exist. So many of those, those people their entire political careers were singular, right? It's just as one stand person who's not like the others, and that's, you know, it's, it's Maxine Waters, it's Barbara Lee, the congresswoman from California, who I read about it length, and who has been a tremendous progressive leader for decades and got. Into politics because of Shirley Chisholm. Now you have a generation of women who have grown up in a world where female leadership was more of a norm in part because of because of Hillary Clinton and Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi and an Richards and, and Barbara Jordan. Right. And they can go further and they're expanding upon the ways in which they can speak and be heard, and be represented and exert their power. And they're changing dramatically from how it used to be. So we're in the middle of this process, and I don't think we should base our assumptions about what is possible in the future. Based on only what has been impossible in our past. I think that's awesome. What a great way to some that Rebekah tries to good mid the revolutionary power woman's anger. This is really fascinating guys so much greatest Stoorikhel things in the book. But there's also the way that you tie the issues together him just the way of for us as a culture to reminders of the hiding out that women. Gently have to do in angers just one of those ways that women have to hide how they're actually feeling for them to be accepted. It's just ridiculous. You know, but hopefully we're at that cultural turning point Rebecca, maybe it's a long process. It says, you know, and a cultural turning point. Everything is getting even worse and worse worse. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Which turning lane isn't exactly. Yeah. You never know. That's why we only have righteous anger. Rebecca, thank you. Some really fun of pleasure..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

03:32 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Yeah. From different ideological viewpoints, but they were credited correctly, for channeling the anger of their supporters, and Hillary Clinton was also fairly criticized for not bringing the passion and not actually being able to sort of that horrible word that people use like authentically channel anger of, you know, an electorate, however, every time Hillary Clinton and you can I mean, I have examples of this in the book, but like you can not hard to find and probably not hard for a lot of people remember every time the women's spoke to close to a microphone, some like serious pundit would say, like stop yelling. You're screaming. And she herself wrote about how she had to get a vocal coach because they're like, don't scream because people are not gonna like yelling woman right morning. Joe's head would explode oh let's stop it. You guys. Right. And so Clinton was a really powerful example of that double bind like, wait, we want you to be passionate and angry. But if you're if you yell we're going to say, you sound super sherline bitchy, so, like where is that middle ground, where you can be authentically passionate, but definitely not yelling because that's going to be aggressive and weird. So that is it's a, it's a huge bind, and my view of it is that the reason I'm sort of optimism about it is because the more women we have in political dialogue, the more we expand our view of how women can run. And one of the things you saw in the wake of Clinton's candidacy was this spate stark number of women who ran in twenty teen. Many of them one many of them ran as openly angry and it actually worked. It worked for like there were doors. There are communicative doors that are opening. It doesn't mean it's easy. It doesn't mean that, you know, it's not gonna we still see Elizabeth Warren, I write in the book about how people have said about Elizabeth Warren, make Brzezinski. Speaking of morning, Joe was like, there's something shrill in her anger. So it's not like it's gonna go on remarked on, but I, but I think that there is an shrew. Funny. I want to say I don't have it in front of me. But I think that, quote, also included the word that I'm not making this up unhinged. I'm not. But I'm pretty sure. So mostly, we're expanding our view. And this is what happens when you have candidates who are not all straight white men, as they have been historically up until Brooke Obama. You know, and that's one exception guy. Right. We're expanding. Our the way we can see and hear politicians and understand them to be leaders and part of that is a communicative expansion. So I am optimistic that we're going to be able to hear angry women differently, which doesn't mean that you won't have a spate of ridiculous. People calling them shrill and mean and threatening you see it all the time happening around black women. Maxine Waters the way she is regularly talked about as crazy. She has been one of the most remarkable expresses of, of political fury in the Trump era and during the Trump administration, and she is regularly denigrated as crazy or alternatively turned into sort of a comical Meam, right? Which is another way that especially black women's anger gets. Demised or written off as sort of turn into character. I think Cossio Cortez has ability to change the game in many ways. You know, a lot of her Ponant focused on, you know, her policy prescriptions at, you know, I think she'll get better at every politician does with policy..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

02:48 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"And their anger has started what became movements that changed laws that change the constitution that changed the power structures in the United States, and yet we have never been encouraged to see or value their anger as politically potent in the way that we are still told to value, the anger of white guys in diners, read any political coverage today, and you will see a kind of anger valorize, and it is the anger of a diner guy. In fact, your book opens with that powerful image of those seventy two convention in Miami with angry woman, being just blatantly ignored by the journalists, you know. Which is very fascinating. You go back to that time, and just how Shirley Chisholm even so ignored, you know, nobody wants to look at I mean, at the beginning of the beginning of the cavenaugh hearings, before, he's accused of assault by Christine Bazi Ford there were protesters in the chamber the first day, standing and shouting, in fact, many of them shouting about abortion, right? Because they know what's about to go down. And there's one woman who shouting about healthcare and the repeal of ObamaCare, and she shouts without ObamaCare. I will die and Orrin Hatch, the Republican Senator who has been on that committee long enough that he was also on the committee for Nita Hill's. Testimony says to this protester or says about her get this loud, mouth out of here. We shouldn't have to deal with the idea. There is an investment in shutting up not listening to an ignoring the voices of, of women who are angry about inequality and injustice, because there is a knowledge that, that anger can start movements that is why it's not an. Accident that we're not encouraged to listen to the anger. You talk about black anger. We talk about female anger, the anger of those who have been kept on the margins for so long. There is a strategic reason why we are taught to fear or be suspicious of or laugh at that anger and not take it seriously. It's because the people who have power know that in fact that anger of those on the margins who are righteously angry that anger has the power to catalyze the very movements that have changed who has power in this country. That is it's, it's the abolition movement. It is the suffrage movement. It is the civil rights movement. It is the labor movement. They start with anger and berry often the anger of women. From Dolores would the on the way down. It's interesting because in the political context, you know, that's that seems to have a direct correlation to shut something down. So you don't have progress or whatever that is. But what do you think just men in general are frayed of angry women because I think the word afraid is the proper word, but maybe there's a better word there, but, but it seems that seems to be the thread in a lot of this to that..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

04:12 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Well, it was a lawsuit. Right. So and. So it was it was a legal petition. Right. And there's not enough of the story, retain, so a lot of this is because these stories haven't been valued stories low laws and, and, you know, there's actually a sort of complicated in ironic. She the lawyer who argued her case she went to work for after she won her freedom. She went to work for his family. Now, his family is a white family in Massachusetts, his family employed, her after she was free, and she's buried in their plot. You can visit her grave, but one of the reasons that her story, actually gets told, which is a real story about race in power. Is that the daughter in the family woman in Katherine, Mariah Sedgwick, actually, becomes an early and rare published female writer and the early United States? And she tells the story of that's one of the ways that the story is preserved, but we don't have all the details the person who we do have the details on of the same era is ABC. Gayle Adams who is John Adams wife and I was taught about Abigail Adams, and this is the second step. And where it's like even when you are taught about the women. Are you taught about their anger? No, your not when I was taught about Abigail Adams, and I think pretty much. Everybody has ever heard. Here's one line. Remember the navy's. Which it's like, oh my God. What a dismal request gesture exist. But if you read the same letter in, which she says that she also writes, remember John all men would be tyrants, if they could using the language of tyranny that John Adams, her husband in the future. President has you know this is the language of revolution against King George, the tyrant, and arguably was John Adams, equal, you know, in many ways. I mean she absolutely was concerned with tyranny in she had seen winter has been by the way, had gone through a defending. Soldiers that had defend to, you know, she was no shrinking violet. You know, in terms of that, as you know, and she also she says, in that same letter, if you don't include women, and you're the founding in the vision for this nation. We're determined to foment rebellion, so she's using the language of revolution. But it is so crucial that in that document that historians have had it is not been lost. It's not like somebody didn't know about it. We are never taught about the anger of the assertion that all men would be tyrants, if they could and that women are determined to foment rebellion. And you think about that. The way we've been taught all of our history. You think about Rosa Parks, and how for years Rosa Parks was taught the story of Rosa Parks was like tired seamstress? Right. And there was a kind of nobility in an in fact, this is the way so much of the civil rights movement got framed. Of course, it was consciously non violent movement. But the nonviolence is the part that really gets transmitted. Especially as, as a young white middle class woman growing up in the United States. People who needed to be nonviolent with the white people actually about that, right? But Rosa Parks is the sort of politicisation intention, -ality and the rage that motivated, her lifetime of activism and a lifetime and she writes, and talks about the fury that motivated her from the time that she was a child fury at racial inequalities. She worked as an investigator for the NWC p investigating gang rapes of black women by white men and the Jim crow south she, she kept that seat on that bus in nineteen fifty five as a political conscious act intended to start a movement, and or to, to be catalytic within a movement. And yet all of the anger in the retelling of the history of Rosa Parks, gets just seeped away. And so that's part of what this book is about, and part of what the process of thinking about politics and social change in this country is about where has there been anger, women's anger? In the anger of marginalized, people, very often women of color, who have been catalytic here who have been angry..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

02:54 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"And this is economically impossible, and you save money, and you save money to work to be able to pay for this, and then it pushes you later and later station, Lee. So then you hit another set of roadblocks, which is, oh, I'm past six weeks. Eight weeks twelve weeks, twenty weeks. That's one of the reasons that you even have a call for some later abortions is because the restrictions have made it so difficult for women to save the money and people who, who need abortions to save the money that they need to pay for it, that, that it pushes them later into pregnancy. So all of that, that has been building in those laws have also they've been waiting till they had a secure supreme court and waiting to push these chips. Away laws which in fact are not minimal there. They have a huge impact on communities entire states and regions of the country. And that was the idea strategically that they were gonna do they'd get a supreme court conservative supreme court, eventually push these cases up the supreme court that conservative supreme court seeking to make abortion fundamentally unavailable, if technically legal under row, would upholstery it'd be impossible for you to get right? But we're not saying it's illegal, right. They'll say it's not an undue burden which is now the standard that it has to meet under Gracie alarm, Casey, which was came after row. So that was one strategy. Now, it seems that some of the antiabortion movement are so bullish on the idea that Republican party and the current president who has had the power to appoint two justices already an and build out a massively conservative federal judiciary beyond the supreme court. Suddenly they're taking this bigger. And what they'd thought they were not going to do, which is go straight for row and just overturn the fucker. Right. And now that's what the Alabama with these big bands are doing, but I have to say, I don't know which one I've heard opinions on both sides, will they will the supreme court take one of these band cases will they just continue to do the, the chipping away cases. But what I have to say and this is really important. Either way it has the same effect. It keeps people from getting the healthcare, they have a right to. So we, we covered a lot of this on my old show, the nightly show, actually, it was an issue, especially the inaccessibility in the, the burgeoning inaccessibility of facilities for women in, you know, with people I just I was always shocked at how just cold, people were with denying women just the basics of reproductive healthcare. It's just ridiculous. You know, so your book good man, the revolution power women's anchor. What was your biggest takeaway, researching your book about anger in women? I it was how little we've been taught about women's anger..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

04:37 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"And so the reproductive Justice movement has been incredibly powerfully useful on bringing these ideas together. And I think that the language of choice has been a little bit flaccid and hasn't really. I mean it's enough that, you know, many years ago, sex in the city. Mocked it as a sort of form of feminism. I choose my choice, right? Permitted this permitted this allusion that any choice, any woman makes is inherently feminist. And that's not true. Choosing ice cream, right? Yeah. I've always felt you know, the positions on abortion are actually, the reverse of what people think they are in terms of their philosophical standpoint. In other words, the let's call it the life and choice movements for for lack of trying. But the life moving to me is actually a liberal position in choice movement is actually a conservative position, which is the irony of ironies, because on the left, they are calling for the liberty of the women to be the foremost, concern. You know, that, that is the foremost, concern her right? When you think about her choice, attor liberty that we should be most concerned about it, and her humanity and her humanity and bats conservative notion to, to ask the government to stay out of something into being more concerned with the liberty of individual. You know, it's, it's one of those classic American rights. Right. Whereas the right. Which, I don't even think they realize this are saying the government needs to intervene to. Protect, you know this being that otherwise is not have a protection. That's very progressive. Liberal state rain. Which is, so it's interesting how the roles reversed in the abortion fight, but people act like they're, they're not as in other words, I'm saying they're not really ideological as their main out to be their, their more positional against here. Here's I think that that's such a valid. No. It's totally valid. And I've actually never heard it sort of argued that way. And what you're pointing to is the total fallacy that, that idea legiti that fundamentally believes that in smaller government and getting out of arsenal. Choices would then get into one's groom. Right. Okay. So that's what you're saying ideology. When you say I'm a conservative some pro-life actually that's a progressive position. Exactly. There's just this chasm of logic. But that's also the same thing we were talking about earlier with wait a minute. Wait, we so value this baby, this, this pre baby. Right. Fetus, the embryo, we so value, the morality and sanctity of this things life. And yet, as soon as it's Bo born we as a as an ideology, and a sort of conservative political party, we are actually gonna fight against getting healthcare, as soon as it's out of the that is which truly Republicans carry. You. What's wrong ranks we so there's a huge fallacy there. But when you keep stumbling upon these huge, gaps in logic you what we probably get to is that maybe it's not really about what they say. It's about again with, and maybe it's about the desire to control bodies to control women to control reproduction and to do a lot of this along racial lines because a lot of controlling women's bodies, and controlling reproduction is also about controlling racial identity fear of, of fear of increased power of women fear of increased. You know, lack of racial clarity and increased power of people who are not white, all of these things are so tied up together. And, and that's the sort of coherent explanation that of what, what this kind of fight is about. It's about people who want to control. Women and by controlling women and people with uteruses control reproduction race, identity and power in this country, do, that's what makes sense do you think they're going to know? There's I was talking about this my last week about the definition of a person and went, then actually means and how you know, when the right was fighting against gay marriage. They use the argument that will for thousands of years marriage has been defined as between men and women why we want to change that now two thousand years. And so I make the argument.

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

03:56 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Well, and it's important that a lot of the people who have power, whether you're talking about the actual elected officials. The people who are being approached as voters or as activists are often people for whom access has not been interfered with right. It's not when you're talking about the people who are the lawmakers, you're not talking about low income communities of color. Right. So there is this sense. What I you know, there's a board there. Five Planned Parenthood Clinton's right around my way to work, right? So there's not that's, and that's that is, by the way, one of the tricks is is for those who have access to certain kinds of power economic power social power. They can buy that lie that there's nothing really to be angry about, as far as the Democrats who have disappointed me for all of my live memory, right? So I, I grew up in Pennsylvania, which was governed when I was a kid by democratic governor named Bob Casey, who is vehemently anti abortion, and he was one of a number of Democrats, you know, in the nineteen seventies after the Rover Wade decision. And in fact, in the week of a lot of the partisan realignment after the civil rights movement, the women's movement. The gay rights movement that left Democrats representing these kind of formerly marginalized groups who now had new kinds of rights and protections and Democrats were their party, but the Democratic Party felt very uncomfortable that it didn't wanna be the feminist party didn't wanna be mommy party. It was still obviously, led primarily, well, that's what they were called. Really, if you go. Back there was this fear that they were going to be called the mommy party because they, you know, so there was a kind of retreat and to safe, sort of white guys who looked like the past, right? And there is an it wasn't that far to travel because, of course, so much of, you know, federal later and state legislatures are still predominantly run by by white men. But there was a group of very moderate lawmakers democratic lawmakers who not only did not fight vociferously on behalf of the continued protection of these rights, that had just been rent one, but, you know, Joe vita voted for the Hyde amendment that again denied abortion access to, to low income women and he was not alone. You know, the Casey's Bob Casey, the my governor from when I was a kid in Pennsylvania, who is super antiabortion, his son. Bob Casey junior is still too. He's the, the senior set our Senator from Pennsylvania, and he supposedly gotten better on abortion. But just last year he vote. Outed for a twenty week ban. So this is the Democratic Party has not until, you know, more recently when this is the first congress that actually has a democratic. The pro choice to use that language a democratic majority, that is on the side of reproductive rights and Justice. This is the first time this congress. So it's been a long road away from that sort of middle of the road squeamish on abortion. There was this sense. It wasn't even just in the seventies and eighties, it was Rahm Emanuel in two thousand six who argued that we should be, you know, have a big tent. And we've got the issue we've got a as Democrats if we want to get a majority, we need to be able to elect antiabortion Democrats, because that'll get us a majority. It's always that thing that we have to be willing to compromise on these, it's always they're not like let's just elected Democrats who don't believe in free speech. Right. We just gotta make an exception, and, you know, and it's Tom Perez, and Bernie Sanders both Nancy Pelosi pretty much every democrat. You can name major leading democrat in Bernie Sanders. Independent has at one point made the argument that we should open bake bigger tent. Right. But that bigger ten is only opened for antiabortion politicians and what it leaves you with Democratic Party. That hasn't been willing to vote differs defend these rights and this access..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

02:53 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"Welcome back. This is Larry Wilmore. You listening to black on the air, next to heavy, they're really, really interesting show today. Rebecca trae stirs, my guess she's the author of the book, good math, revolutionary power of women's anger and is amazing. It's really a great book. And she's also columnists at large, for New York magazine, and she's probably on the forefront of this whole abortion issue right now. What's going on in the courts and these lawsuits? So we're gonna talk about some of that in some of the issues gentle talk about about. So hoping is good come station. Guys, I don't have a lot to talk about today. But I did. Okay. I'm gonna talk about sports a little bit. You know, so people that don't care about sports. I understand. But you know, I love my Lakers. I gotta talk about them, but just before second. But I'm gonna use it to make larger points. I do promise you that. So I gotta talk about Magic Johnson. Okay. So here's the deal. Magic Johnson was the president of operations for the Lakers, and he abruptly quit like a few years ago, few years seems like years ago few weeks ago, and it was very bizarre. It was almost like he was crying wanted to take his ball home. It was really weird. Right. And it was very cryptic and everything, and he didn't view on I take with Stephen Smith and the gang ESPN. And he will he basically, by the way, when he I quit. He kind of through the Lakers under the best. And magic always said how much he loves the Lakers and everything. But he was kind of cryptic and why he left and he didn't call the Brian. He didn't call genie buses the owner of the Lakers. All this big mess. Right. And by the way all the. People that hate the Lakers love this stuff, like Bill Simmons. You know you guys who built him. He loves this stuff. Can't get enough of it. You know, even the Celtics, you know, flame down the playoffs. He's in a worse place than I, but he loves the stuff for me. I kinda cautiously look at it as a Laker lover China hope that everything goes. Okay. But yesterday I was very concerned about magic did. And I promise we'll make a large point because of this magic one on this show, and he basically said that he felt like he was betrayed by rob Pelinka who works with him. Rob used to be a big sports agent. And now he's GM of the Lakers, and he doesn't have a great reputation around town. And one of the issues that magic said was he felt he was backstabbed by Pelinka and the nature of the backstabbing, is that as president of operations for the Lakers magic was really not around the lot and even said that he told janey bus that look, you know, I got other businesses I imagine Johnson, I may not be around that much, and heaves Trudeau's word, you know fairly whether he. Jeannie that I don't know. But as far as the story goes chewed his way and it seems like rob Pelinka basically pointed that out to the staff and said, you know, matrix not really much and then magic heard about this..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

03:31 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"And I think that that kind of what I meant by that have these long intense for the world around you don't get such tunnel vision for what you're doing even if it's important that you aren't viewing yourself as a work in progress. Right. Don't be so worried about falling behind that that you aren't kind of keeping yourself broad and and learning about yourself because one of my favorite concepts from the book is called the the end of history allusion, which is this like logical finding that. We always recognize that we have changed a lot in the past. But we will change less in the future. Yes. That is fascinating. Yeah. It leaves it. Really interesting findings like if you ask people how much they would pay for tickets to see. See their current favor abandoned ten years, the average answers a hundred twenty nine dollars. And if you ask how much they pay today to see their favorite band from ten years ago, the average answers like eighty dollars because we we realize our preferences change, but we expect them now to stay stable, and it's not the case. And so if you aren't approaching yourself as a work in progress and continuing to kind of maintain that curiosity, even as the world sort of tries to track you more narrowly. You're just gonna be missing out on on what you could potentially be. So so I like that have long tennis race. To be this is a bit of a side comment. I feel like there's always seems to be narcissism of the moment. Kind of a of sports phrases prisoner the moment, sometimes when you observe like who's the greatest player when we're prisoners of the moment, we usually choose the most recent example of that, you know, hard to go back and sometimes I feel like like like I like to dispel conspiracy theories. And the the one that I hate the most because huge science nerd grown up. Is that people many people don't believe we landed on the moon, you know, and I feel that's one of those examples. I call it dumb history. You know, where you feel like there's no way. Yes. But it's it's history as being inferior to to the present time, you know, that somehow we are better because we are presently here than what came before it. And there's no way certain achievements that we can't imagine. Now could have happened before you know, and the. Of that is the thinking of Atlantis and that type of thinking where there's a super history, you know, that type of thing might be the maybe but dumb history seems to be about this narrow thinking once again, not take into account behavior, and how people come together, and those sorts of things to affecting in ways that maybe we can imagine today. You know, like the building of the pyramids as an example of that. It's hard for people to replicate bet with what was available then. But that's dumb history to me that type of thinking, you know, that's really interesting. I think about that sometimes when to sort of in that in that for shattering, right? A little bit about AI, and the limits of types of artificial intelligence that that I guess some people in Silicon Valley aren't really admitting to I got the feeling I was doing some reporting there that. There's I don't want to characterize area. But among some some folks in Silicon Valley, there's kind of a disrespect for history in that. They're very sure that they are like inventing the world for the first time, and they're sort of frontiers of a better world in so many of the issues they're thinking about and talking about have been thought about and talked about an Dell with ways could really inform their approaches. And so it's kind of distressing when they give history short shrift..

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Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

03:28 min | 3 years ago

"larry wilmore" Discussed on Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

"The Roger verse tiger question. I love that usually develop like Tiger Woods yearly or like Roger Federer whose mother wouldn't allow him, you know, to focus and actually when his coaches wanted to bump him up a level. He wouldn't do it. Because you wanted to stay in talk WWE. Wrestling with his friends at at the lower level after after training. It's fantastic. And so when Malcolm after that when we came off stage, you kinda went, you know, you got me on with that Roger verse tiger thing, and we became running buddies after that that was the first time we met and sort of talk about on her own time. And I realized I wanted to see whether the Roger or the tiger pattern was more normal in other domains outside of sport and so- range came to embody this sort of concept of personal breadth and experimentation and gaining variety of skills before you become narrow sort of expanding your range, which turns out many of the domains that I think people most want to become expert in is actually the way to go, even as people are increasingly pushed specialize, more and more and more that expanding your range is sort of imitable benefit. And it turns out that basing what we think about skill development and behavior on Gulf actually, not not such a good way to go. Even though that's been extrapolation made in a lot of books. I think because tiger is such a powerful example in he was. Such a ridiculous success story. You know, that it I mean, it would so intoxicating to view Earl Woods as this master. You know, maker of golf prodigy into into follow the narrative that way, and I love how your book in different ways in different chapters breaks up different types of their of you know, that seem like they should be right. But you know, you kind of deconstruct them in a way, but that one is very powerful. Because the example was so blatant, you know, and it's nice to put Roger Federer to the side of that as well. Hold on a second everybody, you know to us that it really makes you you can't ignore the Roger Federer example, either, you know, which I think is awesome to put them side by side that turns out to be the norm. The Roger patterns that was kind of my question, which one of these typical. Yeah. And it turns out that the Roger typical again, one of the reasons I use Tigers because there is no single, you know, single best path successor fulfillment. And tiger like you said is incredible. But. But you know, we go on YouTube and watch him in two years old on television hitting and nobody knows Bill stories of people like Roger Federer because they're less spectacular. Even though the norm and over the course of range part of the argument, I make is that, you know, there'd been a lot of sort of books in my area, the sort of performance on that used the Tiger, Woods example. It's usually Tiger Woods and Mozart to say, this is how we should think about every endeavor. And it turns out that the motored story isn't really the one that's been portrayed. And the tiger story is unique because golf turns out to be like kind of an exceptionally poor model of most things that people actually wanna learn in the world like it's it's non dynamic it's more of an industrial task. But you try to repeat the same thing over and over with as little as possible so early specialization may or may not work in golf. There's not a lot of data. I think the jury's out. But it it's not good for extrapolating to all these other more kind of, you know, cognitively complex dynamic skills that people wanna learn in the world. Yeah. It's it's very golf has way. Too many parts to you know, to make that provable. In fact, Jack Nicklaus who Tiger Woods model of after play a lot of sports before he chose Gulf like at about sixteen. You know, he really didn't choose that as a way to go..

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