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"larry robinson" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"It? Let's talk about it. I mean again. We've had some crates. If the Montreal Canadians get into the playoffs, it will be an unbelievable Now. Who are you feeling right now? As obviously a surging an emerging team and who, in your opinion, as we head into these playoffs, looks poised to make a deep run. The Philadelphia Flyers. And it's a great story because it's the first year of laying video. He has taken two teams to the Cup final before and been turned back. It was a decade ago, basically 2011 when he was able to take Vancouver there, they lose on home lice in Game seven. He takes the Rangers in 2014. They lose the king. The way filly can play their deaths on defense and Carter Heart in net. I'm blown away by just how improved they are in a single year. And Carter Hearts 21 years old. There's so much pressure playing goalie in Philly, and he's impervious to it. He's wide open about the fact that he uses mental training and that to mean you guys were talking about it earlier, the importance of that mental focus on what it takes in order to excel. Carter. Heart has it So I'm really big on the Flyers and Philly fans. It's been a long time. 74 75. There are only two cups spread fog. Shiro there, coach said win today and we walked together forever. I think this team has a chance to do that kind of thing. That kind of special achievement or broad street bullies to point out. I know we're talking to Tony Loveman of the NHL network s O Great to have you on the show and and great to just dig in and really here, you know, I think fine. Philadelphia. Absolutely. The Colorado Avalanche. I mean, that team is and and to me is just always the fastest team. They're unbelievable. Nathan MacKinnon. Watching him skate is prodigious. He gallops. He will forever be known as the second greatest Player out of coal Harbour, Nova Scotia. Happy 33rd birthday to Sidney Crosby. There's no shame in that, by the way is 87 because he was born on 87 Easy for you to remember, In addition will bring every day. I'm also very good at remembering that because Crosby No amazing, Of course. What a pleasure Yet he and his teammates that we discussed have their backs against the wall on the roads. The 5 12 full credit to the league for figuring out a way. To be able to fairly handle what happened And to your point about the Colorado Avalanche. That team benefited greatly because now everybody's healthy. That's right, then. Being totally healthy is a huge deal. Joe Sakic put together an amazing roster and we're getting to see them play. They are special. I mean, those Joe Sakic teams were, you know, you think Back to those teams. Forsberg Sakic. Those teams were just They were incredible. They almost changed the way hockey was played. In a certain way, You know, like how a team a style of a team comes along and you say to yourself, they are actually influencing the way the league is at this point. And that's the ultimate compliment. Dave Reed was alongside me last night. He was a member of that. 01 team. Forsberg goes down in the second round, and I think everybody on Earth except for that team, but They're done, so there's cooked right and they're playing Devil's in the Cup final, the reigning champion New Jersey Devils with Scott Stevens, all the and the blue Line, trap the blue and trapped Yes, but the compliment you paid, I think is really significant. There's going to be a champion every year. But not every champion changes the game and the rivalry between the ABS and the wings during those late nineties, and specifically Joe Sakic and Patrick Wa, but sacking the way he could score the way saw the whole life. Not every player becomes a successful executive. But he's so smart. It's great to see him excel at that roll the way had. I mean, look at sports in Denver. So you got Sackett, who is in the You know he's there and did it there, and now he's doing it upstairs. Elway did it in Denver, and now he's there. I mean, it is. It is rare that you do find that guy who basically defined a franchise to then step forward years later, but I think it connects us to the past. It connects us to the champions of the past. And that means something that tradition I do believe it means something in the sport. It totally does. And I want to share a story with you guys because you're blues fans after Game one of the Cup final last year, I go to Tyler Bozak, who, by the way, had a gorgeous assist last. Yes, both. When I said I saw you during the skate, talking with Larry Robinson, who only has about 40 Stanley Cup rings, and I said, What were you talking about? He said he was just telling us to keep it loose. You know, it's gonna be a long serious. I gotta be honest with you and I'm wrong all the time on predictions. I thought your blues we're going to lose in like five games, if not four. And it turned out. It was a great move. By Craig Berube. Ian that organization Doug Armstrong tohave a Larry Robinson around because the point you guys make about culture is huge. That is such a massive piece. We don't know the Blues had never gotten to the mountaintop. Larry Robinson basically has a chateau at the lives of his male up there. And it was so cool that he was able to pass along that level of calm. Tyler Bozak was right. Larry Robinson was right. It was gonna be a long series, and in the end your blues won it. I mean, the Bob plague. Er, if you watched any of those videos of him just walking the Hoy couldn't even watch was like video test over Ty's dad, like he couldn't watch anything you had to walk. Where is player in the stadium? You know, there's like outside. He's in the men's room. You're like, follow this dude. He's so nervous when the heat went when they won, and he his excitement. I think two fans shows you what lifelong hockey fans feel when something exciting or new happens. Aim and all of that you guys bringing up test over gives me a chance to go back to your Rose Bowl. There's a shadow on the field. And you say good tohave Nell Carter flying overhead and I've never left harder at television in my life. I'm 44 watch the office have watched all the great shows through the years may be the greatest line in television. I forgot about that guy. She rest in peace Rest in peace. And as a fellow Jew we love. Ah, did I Not wait for these playoffs to unfold like you said the 5 12 matchups. The fact that it is the way that it is anything's possible. We'll keep our eye on the flyer's. Obviously we'll keep an eye on the blues because those are those people follow you and get all of your great information..
"larry robinson" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets
"Up to that point you know plan no sixty exhibition games you know playing a few NHL teams plant Marley teams. We stayed you know at the greatest so tells the accommodations they set us up in the dining Minnesota with beautiful apartments free car so the the year itself leading up to the Olympics was amazing. Eddie was part of that. Diaper line with Fontaine Johnson so You know the three youngest guys at Olympics hired speculations. Obviously We spanked Canada eight. Nothing in Milwaukee before two weeks before the expert that was a kiss of death but they sure got even with us. Chris I was going to ask you about dot getting that experience and how how much easier it made you to transition into the NHL. Because at the end of that year after the Olympics she ended up getting your first taste of NHL experience with the Canadians correct. Yeah yeah and it was like just playing on the big ice skating. Improved skills improved. We had that coach Lou Farrow. who kind of you know pattern Dr game after the Russians a skilled game? So you know like I said plan the six games getting the experience plan against NHL Teams American League teams and and then of course playing college teams throughout the year and some tournaments I I can honestly say you know before the Olympics. I don't think I was reading you know to to make that jump in the NHL. And that's why you didn't go out of college. I decided to play the two years of college to get that experience. They needed and develop and the Olympics was just the icing on the cake to get me ready prepared myself you know for the NHL Jelly broken with the haves the eighty three eighty four season. There was still some legendary names on that team from the seven squads leflore gainey shot Robinson. How is your relationship with all those hall of fame is particularly Larry Robinson as a defenseman unreal I always said like to to be able to break into a team with those types of players was like getting a Harvard degree. All I did was listened. I've never spoke. I shut my mouth and back then. That's all rookie. Should be but how could you question. You know the guys that you mentioned success and the Cup said one This sitting in those brasseries listening to the stories and even the guys prior to them corn way in resort Henry Rashard Like I said it was. It was a great learning torture. Me and one of the best leaders in Bob Gainey Larry was a bit of a clown Larry Robinson he had this highs and lows. You Know Craig Doug Ludwig actually kept him in line. Shut off every once in a while you get burn people ought everybody else Larry so it was kinda comical but what a great guy and what. What a great teammate? He was wearing did people actually call him big bird to his face or was that just a media thing. Oh yeah no no. They called US face. Yeah he loved it like I said he he. He had a great sense of humor. Larry he was almost you know he acted like a kid right till the end and I think that's why he didn't make very good tapped and He's just like I said he would. I get really upset sometimes or you don't be really number one time you put a Q.. Tip in his air was walking around joking with q tips and he accidentally victories eardrum and couldn't play goofy stuff. You've ever think Larry was like that but he was great. I gotta ask you about just going from Wisconsin. All of a sudden you're playing for the perhaps and you have all these legends on your team. What was the culture shock like? Was it hard to maybe you know. pull the reins back on the extracurriculars off the ice of the party scene. And maybe the nightclubs. Well no not at all but like I said I got after Olympics. I think I played thirteen games. And the room is where Alfie Turcotte. Who Pretty much drank himself? Out of the League and Carlson so I was not aware whatsoever about the tradition. You know the history never been to Montreal. Never GOT TO WATCH GAMES GROWING UP IN CHICAGO. I knew the name because you know the you know the Canadians and the savage web display it against the Hawks and the final so obviously knew. Those names Savard Lapointe but I had no idea what I was into with that city and my first stint Santos Thirteen Games and a good playoff run. You know we finished workplace barely made. The ploughs put had a great run into the semi finals. Loss to the islanders That year that they lost oeste. I've been I share but The next year we had eight rookies and it was just let the party began and again we we went out there group. You guys like you know it's reshape fee course was later Mike Keane but it was just we were winning. And there's better city thirty two women and it didn't matter as long as we won. No one said anything what we started losing. That's where you know all the stories come out about drinking and carrying on and you know deservedly so but that's just the way it was the did you get in a little bit harder because you were an American as far as the press if things aren't going well You know that so so much American but English you know Mike Keen to beaten Kirk Muller took a beating. They're you know they're trying to separate from Canada at the time so it's obviously an issue but for sure the a French Press You know being carbon our best friends and we were both two co captains and he'd been suspended for you know missing missing curfew Dui And they never said anything about him but in the meantime every time there's a rumor it's like I was wondering just take a beating in the press there for sure there is an issue and those guys will tell you that it. Just you know being a captain you know the the honor thing or you know you have to grow up. And I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready to take on the role and I failed miserably for sure because I just you know that wasn't my personality at the time. You mentioned Alfie Turkey. I got an amazing mazes picture that beauty at the draft when his son. Who's a stallion got? Pick fifth overall finger four inches up. His nose pecking away. You know look at look at the Montreal team like you re ripped it up your first full year. Your rookie year made the all rookie team in the second year. Did you get injured because you end up winning the what happened in the regular season. Yeah I blew my knee out early. I think I missed almost forty gams came back. You know and and basically played sparingly role throughout the plas because Roosevelt again. I you know it was it was. It was lucky that I got back in time. I I'm not sure how many games I play. Normally you know regular shift in power plays in the in the playoffs there and I guess then the rumor was. They'd better get rid of you know not you know the Party and also that they said mighty you'll never last. That was one of the things that you know they kept saying but you know I just got lucky inhaled Gel. You came in second in the call the vote into a guy named Mario lemieux. You actually got five first place votes and three other couple of other Canadians votes out. Did you ever apologize to Mario for that or do you basketball. I always balls Jose I mean I I know the worst part about that was before the ceremony or the words bank with someone gave me a letter telling me that I finished a close second. I was on. This is bullshit. Oh Shit you know what it did. I would love to just lose right at the moment but I knew going into the thing that I had already lost That's not a bad guy to lose to. I think he had one hundred other points that I thought the only chance because they finished and you know whatever. They didn't make the playoffs in Montreal. We finished almost I in our division. And like you said it was a great year not a bad runner up. You know spot and you first. NHL Playoffs score and first among d you second NHL Playoffs you a second in points. Where you kind of like Shit? This is easy man to do. Yeah Yeah I got like I said my first thirteen games. I had orrin toy I played terribly. Had No confidence is just throwing the puck off the boards glass And I was stealing jerseys. Tom Kurvers thinking I was going to Sherbrooke any day. You know I do the laundry room. So I got a great collection I love Slur Robinson Gay Jerseys you know to buy Colosio Gel but it. I got one goal. You know the first game of the playoffs against Boston scored the first goal of the playoffs and all of a sudden I felt like man I could do anything and everything just took off and I had a great run in the eighty three to four playoffs we upset a few teams and and then it just carried over into the next year my rookie year. Tom Curtis hers is my partner. We know we let it up. You know as a good tandem so it was. It was great so one thing that we actually haven't mentioned. Most people are aware that you played hard hard. You are known as somebody do anything it took to win you play with a nasty edge was it always liked that growing up. I'm assuming it was no like I said I played way forward. I was undersized soda. There's no need for that and basically when I went to lose shop you didn't know how to fight or you didn't know how to protect yourself and now it's it's just. The Western League was ten times worse than what we're not putting Bruce Cheryl's tier to western like I played there for two weeks and I had no chance of you know I was too dumb to not fight and you know when you get challenged you had to you. Don't answer the ball And I just land to survive it loose Shah and obviously college. Nowhere there but It it did Terry over an ecology intimidating wages going after players. And you know back then you could elbow again the head you could shop guy in the sided luggage now. Worrying about getting suspender. Fine so I was. Just you know the eighties the seventies eighties and over ninety two. Joel you play with Chris. Smile and and and and your first full year three hundred and fifty eight penalty minutes he had. What's it like playing with a guy who like in the old era who's just fucking going at it every night like that you could see maybe going through some shit mentally when he's fucking battling like that every night? Oh Yeah I mean. I lived in the building with Chris He was like my dad. You know he babysitting me on the off the is. I don't know if that was good off the ice room safety set me but You know honestly like it was. It was just as comfortable knowing that someone did come after be heavyweight or you know Dale Hotter was my msnbc terrified me. I'd be the first to admit it. He was like every time I see sooners like looking at the devil on the ice and he got me a few times but I mean actually go after him every game or something to him every game and you know not that it altered them all the time but he like I said I got guys like that may have always said that.
"larry robinson" Discussed on The Tim McKernan Show
"They give you a little sweet up in the corner, and you fit twelve fourteen people in there. And, and then Tom came along and took three the big, bud sweet next to it, and combine it all together, and we give out twenty five tickets at night to different charities that we don't even see that donation through our alumni association. That's just straight tickets, right to this, you know, they get a little certificate, and then they get to four five six thousand twelve hundred fifteen hundred they get for those tickets that goes right in to their pocket. Twenty five tickets at night. And so it's Tom Stillman and his involvement. The booze lung, you know, we got to go to a party with just the players and their families and the alumni in the management on Friday night. And again, I, I don't see that invite coming to any other ten even to the Saint Louis blues, it's not for Tom Stillman and Kris Zimmerman. And how instrumental they are making sure that the blues. Mhm ni-, because of the group of people we have here and the blues are in, in in. We got a good real good. But we also work, we work our asses off with all kinds of cherries like that. So what, what isn't we like doing that kind of stuff? But, you know, I think it's not necessarily talked about enough how, how we're treated as a whole with this organization and how chain I didn't realize that changed with Tom Stillman's ownership. I open. And again, the alumni, always taking care of here in the lump is always worked here. Like, you know, obviously Bobby plager- right off the bat of you're retired. He came into it. And then Bruce Affleck. And there's been guys that played on the team all the way along that we're always a part of the team in some way, shape or form. So they've always had Canadians. Wanna stay down here. It's great town. I love it. I call it home. But there's a little bit of this thing, called cold, weather, and snow that really drove me away from Musha scotch. No. I didn't know any better when I was ten camp. Right. Turn twenty-five. You realize there's other temperatures in the world. See later. Ill, always bought my heart. All right now that it's all over. I, I know there's always going to be that line. You can't air out certain things, and I respect that. So you can bullshit, me whenever I hit one that you can't hit on. But what was going on in October, November, and December combination of thing? Okay. What they weren't bought into the system. That's as we might. Maybe they didn't have a system, or maybe whatever cases, okay. Do they, they, they weren't bought in what does that do? Well, when when, when all of a sudden, you're not didn't have goaltending. So you had you had when you have goaltending domino affect. It's you can't evaluate your team properly in my opinion you know he leads the week ago and whose falls that you go through it just a pain in the ass. You don't have great goaltending. You're not bought into the system, or if there is a similar that due to a room when you have complete advise your big boys aren't stepping up. Now. You've got these young kids getting called up because there's no other like what's going on here. They start getting power play time. You know, Schwartz. He's like, well, what the hell? Well, you're not scoring. Okay. Well, this is my jam making I should be in this situation. It causes rift blame here and there and that's natural. And that's every team goes through that, and who teams can crawl out of it, but that's exactly what happens and the only way to really cure that, and you could remember Petro's people ragging on petro, and Steen, or in this. The big thing. Yeah. They probably hate each other a couple times, probably hated each other. I mean. You look into paper UP your wife's talking to people at the gas, it all adds up, and you guys together every fucking day, everyday pardon. My links from every day. And so it just naturally causes rift in a locker room. And again, the only way to cure that is to get a system in play you gonna head coach and you win and you start winning and you start playing the right way, and everybody starts buying and, and it's a slow process is exactly what happened. It's unbelievable to watch. It's not an easy process. And I think when I take a look back at right at the beginning of summer. I think you gotta go to the summertime before you look at what happened in October November, December and in the summertime. Doug Armstrong, did some things that people like Wow, Did he make this team fasters that what everybody's supposed to do by signing Patrick maroon and, and, and, you know, not saying that rhino rivals not fast, but he is. But did he what did he do a good? And I was super excited about the team. And then you will work. Yes, people were take a look at, you know, a guy like J bowl mecer that had. Hip surgery and probably wasn't ready to come back as being season. But did Patrick maroon had a knee and back surgery and probably wasn't ready? Come back, but he was hometown kid that he had to do. And then he won, by the way in ninety one was kinda has never really been pushed to the point that Baru pushed him to this year. Right. Where it's like, hey, listen. You're not gonna play the fireplace that sound he's always been giving like that. Like little kid that never had any consequences to pay. And when you take a look at Ryan Ryan rally coming in who probably could be a captain probably could be the captain on the team, obviously petro things done a great job. But he's a he's a guy that elite level that elite on the ice leadership where his work ethic, and the way that he acts on the ice takes over for everything it really doesn't matter what he says, 'cause he shows it with his action. And then trying to find that jostle of the new guys. Right. You've got got a lot of personalities and we dealt with it in two thousand and two thousand three when we had, like guys like Mike Keenan, Scott Mellanby and Keith. Chuck and alma kennison, Chris Pronger. Those are all guys that work happens and could be captains National Hockey, the I think that with an Alex dean and Orion Riley, and even guy. Jay Bo miester, that's been around for as long as he has. It was just a natural time for those guys to try and figure out where they were. And what happened when you couple in the fact that, you know, Cam said there were the goaltending wasn't there in the Jake Allen, had glimmers and signs of being a number and glue, but it never really pushed the pedal to the metal shown and proven that he was a number one goalie. He was still in a land attentional, right? And you know that's why would question the signing that he was given. I know why it was given so that we can say now you've got the you've got the contract, you're the guy, but that's a tough one to happen to sign if it doesn't work for in the back end. And I think that you just couple everything with the guys kind of getting into it in practice, knickknack, and guys realized it was more than Sanford, and bore Tuesda. I don't think so. But I think there's probably a lot that happens just happened. I didn't like it, but ten years ago, that's not a big deal. He's fights and practice all the time. Like it wasn't. It wasn't even a thing. But obviously there's no fighting now. So a fight him. We had you talked about this. Yeah, it wasn't really even a fight 'cause for me to constitute as a fight. Both guys have to have their gloves off here, lanford still is on E warm in the shower that. No, I just give it up for twos. Oh, much shit because I'm like, motherfucker. Your, your toughest most angriest fight ever in your career is against a kid. That's never fought ever that even have his gloves off at the time. And you through harder against him, then you did anybody else and your career. And yeah, I know there's fighting we I thought so many teammates and they're all bigger, but it wasn't an impulse look in rookie and fight Goto them and not go, toe-to-toe immigrant like fuck you. What are you doing? And then, and so I pull shit him hard. I mean, we're doing on a podcast doing remember doing everywhere you better do something. And not did. You know, he did that next game goes right up to Tom Wilson trays punch Tom Wilson at center ice in freaking enterprise centre, damn right, Bert. Okay. Now, you're okay. Now you're back. You lost your mind. You loss on Sanford Sanford, took a beating a nasty ass. Uppercut up. It is what it is. And that and then he goes out there and goes toe-to-toe. Does that send a message you've got? Damn right. Jack Nicholson, Tom known his great stood up to the point straight squared off with them and actually didn't take a beating. Sometimes you guys like I'm just gonna hold on and get thrown. He's like, I'll trade with you all could have got knocked out, but he sucked up because he knew he had to have to do that. What Sanford and, and, and all the guys like fucking right? There's, there's one other thing that, that I've been talking about on the radio for the last three weeks, probably four weeks. Then I think has for me going on notice. And I think this guy would be happy that it did go unnoticed. But Larry Robinson is a guy that came in and actually spent some time on the bench and early Jan. And that was that was right after the November. Eighteenth firing of Mike L and are yo- or the hell you say it. They didn't really really the blues didn't really have that spark. That usually see, when there's firing a coach gets canned like that. And so they kinda went in and I think like they just said, hey, Larry doesn't want to be on the bench for like just down be around in the dressing room and kind of get these guys like this is at the time of nine time Stanley Cup. Hall of Famer changed the game as a guy that was six foot five and could skate like he did back in the Montreal Canadians leading back end and re re like one of those guys like Bobby or that kind of brought the offensive defencemen game out. And and but also had a tremendous defensive game. And he's just insanity about his defensive game and how to play a defensive system and he takes his defensive system into the open of Zona. I think that when you take a look at what he brought his level of composure, I really look at that being right. On the same time that the blues kind of stirred interesting that really really really it really those two things kind of came together. And I think Larry Robinson deserves a tremendous amount of credit for what happened to this hockey team and them getting on page because they went from team that was just flying and running gun and trying to do everything themselves to a team that played with controlled chaos. And when I say controlled chaos, I'm talking about getting on the four check and really punishing the other teams defense. And then knowing that. The defenseman in the offense zone without a shadow of doubt when that puck comes around the wall, you're gone. You're not waiting for somebody to come back your crank cracking down. You're pinching on that Ford. You're trying to cause chaos. The second floor is now coming in and helping out there and that third forwards coming back east protect and that defense in case gets gets by..
"larry robinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Banks, Brian, we apologize for some of the language Jordan Bennington, obviously very excited. Larry Robinson down on the ice. She's been a consultant he was actually behind the bench for a couple of weeks after the coaching change with Craig ruby his tenth Stanley Cup Sixers a player. One is the head coach now three is an assistant and he's the type of personnel e likes to stay in the background. And but when you hear the players talk about how important he was in particular with this defense and how well they played in the strength that they showed and what they learned from Larry Robinson and able to get to this point Kenny. And, you know, you, you mentioned Jay Bouwmeester Maistre and his long. Wait. How 'bout Alexander Stein as well as such an important player in personality on this team because Craig Berube e the head coach told us that he was the most important player that he had to convince a what his role had to be in order for this team to win and it was a role. I was not going to be on the top three lines. It was a role that was going to be on the fourth line. And that's what he had to play. He could vinced him that that's where he needed to be in order for this team to turn things around and start winning again. And Alexander Stein told them if that's what you want coach. And if that's what you think I need to do and help to help this team win. That's what I'll do, and when he made the decision and said, okay, that's a role all play everyone else on this team just followed along. And that was a really important thing for him to do swallow, his pride a little. Bit. But it obviously has turned out, and it was the coach's idea Alexander Stein ends up winning a Stanley Cup the Saint Louis blues continue to celebrate day are the Stanley Cup champions. We go back down to ice level, Brian Boucher,.
"larry robinson" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast
"Oh, Tyler Bosak last night, like way to go way to turn a situation where you know, gone from Toronto picked up by the Saint Louis blues, and he talked about beginning of the year. I'm here to win a Stanley Cup. I love seeing things work out for people like that. Zach. I'm I'm with that, too. Larry robinson. Yes. About Armstrong, a lot abo- Baru bay a lot about the players as well. We talk more about Larry Robinson the Saint Louis blues, you know, who else I think to Mike van Ryan divide, like that's a good coaching staff. So Larry Robinson shows up this year because they need help with their D Mike van Ryan had to make some changes to when Vince Don got hurt and change the pairings here. And they're like, guys told me that, that Saint Louis blues coaching staff like they fired Mike, yo and the and promoted Baru BEI guys told me the assistant coaches were really worried about their jobs too. So you imagine how those guys van Ryan and ought were sweating for sure in the regular season. Yeah, I'm with you on Robinson to Mike van Ryan gonna be NHL coach one day, I always say a rising tide floats all boats. Right. Like you don't think that people aren't going to be looking at Steve and saying, this guy going to be like, can you imagine when Steve was playing, and he was like getting in fights with Peter lab labs. They left together that he was going to be a head coach someday. He's an assistant coach. He's going to the Stanley Cup final facing off against the Boston. Bruins quick thought on this one in advance of Monday. Now you're on the road Sunday. Yes. Because the media day is Sunday. Would you expect between these two teams? I think that's going to be a hard series like every every series was Saint Louis has been a hard series. They grind you down low, the, the us their size their physicality, you know Boston. I don't think they're the big bad Bruins of years past. But I think they're really really tough team. They play tough. They, you know, they play hard Rask has been. I'm believable is the one goal that's been better than Bennington. These couple of clunkers. No, I think he's a different guy right now. And you know what they both could have a clunker in the final, and they'll Jerry fine. She's like it's going to be a hard hard series. I don't bet against Persia like there's guys I'll, I'll never bet against Berge Ron's on that list. Do they have an answer for that top line Saint Louis? You know what I think they'll they always seem to find a way like I, I like Boston and a long series. But it's not a confident prediction. Let's get to some other NHL issues. We'll talk about the the Stanley Cup final as it commences next Monday a couple of coaching issues. Let's start with Edmonson again. What's the latest in oil country Elliott? Well, here's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing that Tippett and hall in they're gonna meet end to this week sometime last week, he told Mark spector twelve to fourteen guys. I think that list is a little smaller right now. But I still think if. Everything checks out with Tippet. He's the favourite like some of the people I heard that were on their list. You know lane Lambert. John Stevens was a name potentially on their list. Those are the kinds of names. I've heard so far. Todd nelson. There's been some dispute about it. I think what it comes down to. There is Ken hall in knows. Todd Nelson ran Rapids, if he opens up the search. I think that's a guy he could talk to. But I think one of the reasons he hasn't gone for permission to talk to Nelson yet is isn't know if he's going to open up the search that how much is going to do what I don't think. That's my read right on the situation. So I still think it's Tippett's job to lose also at that Minton this week, some dismissals, Duane Sutter handling pro scouting JJ bear media relations with the Edmonton Oilers. Are we looking at an offseason now of really deep cuts to that organization? You think I think there's definite?.
"larry robinson" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"Right about Brent burns. Listen, why do you think Todd McCullough Larry Robinson and j woodcraft tournament or forward because he is chaotic? As a former he was chaotic and wonderful that way because he created all kinds of chances, but they're mentally. You can't be chaotic. And I don't think Brent is is a great. He's not as cultural, and I don't mean that in a bad way. It's not like he's a guy that don't listen to coaches. I just think the more analysis he gets the more paralyzed becomes he's more free fluent. And you're right. You you take the good with the bat if if you're looking at say grants and you're thinking yourself. i'm gonna turn him into the perfect defenseman you you're not going to and as as you said gimme the points and i'll put with them all put lucrative all justin braun i'll put a good defensive defenseman with him when sanderfeld homeless was with the san jose sharks when i was coaching we used to call them on those senators because you'd be going oh no oh no yeah wait it goes sanders because you've got the hell you're doing up there at fifty seconds heat score when he got traded to call mark crawford visit head coach and my crawford brought him in defense this is sandy soils mitch santa's going to be up the ice and if you're playing defense with them you better covered his own and they wanted to stay that's that's just the way it is you know take the good they're very very good with a little bit about the puck over if he's a minus if he's if he's a minus one but he's got four points i'm taking it and angel look at his plus minus i'm not gonna really but he's eleven yeah what does tell you what you can find a lot more guys that could play alongside of him that could do it they can do what he does and the other thing about about drew doughty talking about the norris trophy and i i don't know how you're looking at him for the norris trophy for years now and actual hockey league is looked at the nose trophy winner the guy was pretty much been give you the most points from the point yeah if you go back now the last couple of years to tampa these to me the best defense in total package in the league and mark you're now in in calgary us seventy plus points and is good on both ends of the ice and that's one of the guys that doughty vote there certainly guys you can look at They play they were trying to find really their game before much when Mark got there. Now, put that second line really into it. They bring a lot of speed at you. Now, they're there they go back to what they were last year with their taxes coming at you in the waves. That that second line. I think it's a seventeen million dollars second one right now. Next year tips, a twenty one million dollars twenty two million dollars. That's that's a pretty potent second line, and they changes their power play. Now their power play comes at you. And you don't get a break from the first year to the second unit there a little bit more of that lines. A little more of a shooter line. Mark stone is really good one of the top guys in the that takeaways taking the puck, and then creating chances of it. He is a he's a game changer of a player and they play tougher heavier game. Because as you saw you can do that. But they tell you a little bit more speed now than the sharks sharks to throw speak through speed bumps in the way..
"larry robinson" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast
"Knowing Brown is plus minus still a relative stat in relevant. True. That's what he meant relevant stat. In today's NHL. I think it matters to know who's on for what? But many disregard it, and I'm unsure why there's some people who believe in it. I think Lula Morello believes in it. He's mentioned it a couple of times and passing to me to say that it's something he believes in other people do different things on years ago and hockey night in Canada radio Larry Robinson, when he coached in San Jose said that the sharks had a system where if you were on the ice, and you were directly involved in a scoring chance you gotta plus, and if you were on the ice, and you were directly involved in scoring chance against you. Gotta minus right. I like that a lot better. Yeah. I think that thing that people sort of look at with plus minus is if you get a minus, and you're not really responsible does that is a true indicator of your success slow. It just comes down to the fact that people believe there are deeper ways to look at this and determine cause and effect or you would falter not so goal base metrics are low event shots are a high base metric for information to deal with Ken Hitchcock was a big believer in possession. Like who was a reason that we got the puck in the offense zone for a long time. A lot of coaches will tell you they prefer that kind of a message. And I think a lot of people that are at the the high end analytics thinkers will tell you you're plus minus has to do with things like your goaltender safe resist and your teammates shooting percentage. Yes. Case in point when Alex Ovechkin had the worst, plus minus in the NHL, and then suddenly he didn't and that was more about his teammates because he's defensive player all of a sudden on that will wrap. Anything to add Elliot before we wanna say we have a job shadow or in today. Sam is with us and his mother who I believe I went to summer camp with at some point. She brought in these great cookies which have ruined my McCain figure, and I just want to say Sam, thanks very much. Sam won't you come around this way to can at least get on the YouTube version now Sam just wave to the camera. Just just you know, Sam Elliott was at the mall not too long ago. He had a nice polkadot bikini picked out for next summer and your mama's ruining ruined it said, but thanks very much. Susan for the cookies, we are finishing taping this podcast at three o'clock eastern time on Wednesday. He's been here since one thirty and he'll spend a good chunk of the night with us tonight. Yes. Fantast just to see what a joke. Our jobs are. It's really easy. Don't tell anyone. Okay. You know, who's got the easiest one to me. I do things like this. That was a bad pass Elliott agree Burkey? Was that offside walk them back to the program? And we'll be right back. Kind of all I do and every two weeks a paycheck shows up and someone yells stop the. On that will conclude on a thank calling phaser for stopping by. That was a lot of fun. Thanks to you for all the downloads and the eyeballs on YouTube. I will conclude with Hawksley workman. Always thank you to our producer. I'm L Delic Hawksley workman. This is battle Ford's hockey as a handful of shows right before Christmas in Creamer. Huntsville and Toronto we're back next week with more thirty-one thoughts the podcast, thanks for joining us. With. He said. The beating. Could afford. Freeze. Streets. Sniffed? On the edge of his name. Wasted. Dead shakes. It's been. His mom. With the. Stretch to say the blessing.
"larry robinson" Discussed on The Tim McKernan Show
"So I really go back and study, and I found a guy that was coaching at that time, Salt Lake golden eagles. And he ended up being a former coach with the blues Wayne Thomas, and he was in NHL goalie. I watched them work with Mike Vernon who is sent down to Salt Lake, and this is where my game changed. I watched them practice after are not before our practice because we were after them. And then I knocked on visiting coaches door after our practice because he was watching ours now and I myself and I asked him if I could have the drill book that he just used with Mike Vernon. And he says, I'll make something about ten pages for me. I still have it to this day and that and those drills that change that change the way I was the way position myself how square I was how patient I was. And Wayne Thomas ended up being my goalie coach in Chicago. The year I made the hawks. So that's one of the reasons why I really made it was we, he went to bat for me, but so that's what that's what you know. You're not gonna work harder and you can stay. You can sit in the net for hundred hours, but if you're not stop it, you know working right. He was my foot position, basically my hands and my feet, and my patients and now is in order to be a small guy, I was going to have to play as big as I was going to have to play big and on top of my Chris, and I wasn't going to be able to go down prematurely like I was doing before. Did you feel like you get to the NHL without that? I don't think so. Really. I absolutely defining moment for me. No question and I still have it if is even show value in that. That's for sure. Thirty years later. When you look back on your your time with the hawks, what stands out to you about that NHL experience that you know somebody especially around Saint Louis? Yeah, so many kids are dying to get what you are able to mop Bush and work, however, many years to get to that point, man, you think about that? I think putting on you're putting on that sweater for the first time was with something else. The the first game I backed up against the Montreal Canadians, which was my favorite team growing up. So I'm, I mean, I'm literally I'm on. There was actually funny, really funny live from Larry Robinson was playing for the Canadians at this time and Larry now with the Saint Louis blues as a special advisor, and he denies that he ever said this, but in the warm up. Unbelievable. Didn't even have my last name on my sweater. Number thirty, four. No last name. And so I get in the net and I guess Larry Robinson, Doug Wilson, our good friends. They grew up in Ottawa together. And and I guess is there skating around Larry? Robinson pats on the ship has willy come over here for a second. I guess Doug skates over and he goes, who's just looking at the the the goalie says, where's the other half of them? So so man Douglas. If Doug Wilson couldn't wait to tell me where's the other half year goalie best line ever which is a great line. And so you know what going on the ice, you know, going up those stairs playing your first time in the Montreal forum for me, that was incredibly special. I love the Montreal Canadians growing up. They were. They were absolutely. I, I'm sure for a lot of baseball fans, if you're, you know, cardinals fan or Yankees fan you, you gravitate towards winners. I just they just want all the time. They are always winners. So I, I love them. Didn't like the Toronto may play. So with the first time I played maple leaf gardens, I'd played there before and major junior, I wasn't. It wasn't as much of a big deal for playing in the Boston Garden. Is just incredible. Incredible spot gave up a goal from center ice there. That was fun. Time I should have had more nightmare on that one. No question that was that was that was one for the..
"larry robinson" Discussed on View From the Penalty Box
"He said to me you know we had a guy who pull out kinda crappy we would swe sent him to the farm team right away so he was so mad at me and he said get your butt to the say was in detroit he said get your butt to you choi you're paying your own flight and get down her right now so i win he mile flight to detroit so up at the rink and bulma would talk to me i tried to explain what had happened and then just not the players but this coaching staff cloud rally shunned me and i sat in the stands and get on the charter on the way home and nobody in this coaching staff top to me but how unfortunate again you know like there's no need for them to get mad at me because it was an anyways fault there was a power outage in the again you know i've talked a lot about these two levels of players in your superstar you know go to to stop that either both us that was something of shirt larry robinson kenwright said this goal well he's still planning to get you down here so that's another story that happened to be much y'all most fortunate but us while we're actually recording this on sunday which is father's day so you might not have an answer for this vice i wondered what it's like to be a dad who has young kids and is anchor hockey and his traveling in with that impact is like or maybe there is no impact well you know father's day are no funds day i think you know if you're a parent that loves you children you know you wanna spend as much time with him as possible as an athlete especially hot you get the summers to spend the time with you family and i know you curse i dunno you member but when i go on.
"larry robinson" Discussed on Around the Horn
"Clinton praise the soccer heat i think that big deals got one of the best teams in the world cup you wanna see some problems look what happened to france and they went to south africa ahead of uni luke was to mexico right now in the headlines that's it is after this is a good team coach bad grade into a career just a big deal huge she'll you this suck coach doesn't matter this is like the nba rockets firing mike dantonio on the eve of the nba playoffs this is the second favorite this is the second favorite to win the world cup and get rid of the head coach makes no sense all right well i appreciate the nba metaphor that somebody does we need stuff like that thank you what did more time around soccer understanding here's a guy local like with one seventy percent of his game took over in two thousand sixteen he's put this team together the guy that's replacing here now we don't need another hero in spate i'm also seventy percent of matches in spain i mean that's not a great number tim where are you at here obviously this reminds all of the two thousand new jersey devils with done points to go fired the coach larry robinson and they beat the stars for the stanley cup so this kind of and work metaphor so we can also understand what's happening is soccer phil what you guys are out of here.
"larry robinson" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"And business types startups getting to the next level and people like me who just like the bank there i love it going over to oakland and seeing john and she dolan del marie and rebecca and thuan and fred voss and everybody over there they do a great job so bridge bank is a division of western alliance bank a member of the f d i see it is sunday we love doing this and he's been with us all year long going back to spring training he writes for forbes dot com is one of the leaning baseball writers i think in the country and that is our good friend gary bloom barry how are you hey good morning this a lot to talk about today yeah i love that and having watched you know the celebration and the the end of you know that game five and how well washington play in the third period to come from behind and win that series the amount of of emotion out of ovechkin from the moment the last buzzer sounded and to know right straight through it reminded me a lot you know of mark messier wouldn't rangers won the company ninety four and then greg gore won his first stanley cup of the town colorado avalanche in in two thousand and one but the difference was ovechkin is is a lifetime capital and he's been through the wringer with them and the failures getting knocked out in earlier rounds over the first eight years of his career and for him to to be there to win it as a thirty two year old was really something to watch and it's just continued you know it's not unusual i mean i remember covering the canadians winning the smelly cop over the rangers in nineteen seventy nine at the old forum and the next day i went out to the ballpark the expos will watch for playing the pirates at all the olympic stadium and they were honoring larry robinson and a bunch of guys from that game the.
"larry robinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Off the draw fresh unit out there for the devils years fought inside the blue i perceiver sit handcuffed by the past diesel pick it up back to see with eighteen to go now to netapp past a he's your boil reader exploit nascent but it was blind l a corner with a billion these three four by seaver trying to keep it alive with four to go in the power play now it's skating down the center of the ice loss control the poaching thought the of block did front is out of the box is leading islanders look up wagner gets it he put back his doubt a wagner the pasco's his shot blocked by by who came to slow down the play and then block the shot savvy with some good defensive work and now he clears it all the way down and this'll be ice well devil's plan a smart hockey game right now they walked a lot of shots matt there could shotblocking team the devils are good shop uhhuh quickness you got to move your feet quick to get net shooting lane then you gotta have your stick on the ice and i remember jock man larry robinson really instituted that into the nhl everybody followed they really knew how to block shots and up so you got the quickness the willingness with stickwork it's up kulak with spinning no way for nascent feeds the corner for bars l who's up along the far wall now inside the blue line saucers one near signed for davidson eleven fifty four to go in the third devils lead by to pass for cars l in the slot poked three night's sleep by zebra ship so the islanders look to regroup.
"larry robinson" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast
"Yeah which i respect him for i think that when you look back at the way he started his career and how far he's come that's the most impressive thing to me about chara is that he went from a gangly ugly gating looking eighteen year old to a hall of famer i remember talking to stan butler once about him because he had him in prince and say what did you guys do that when chara showed up right because that's when you know some some slovak hosa went to the portland hawks chara went to prince george cougars what did you do with that and stan just sort of laughs and he's like yeah i mean you talk about raw hockey players here was a rod giant and i remember i asked what was his first fight like and he said frightening and i don't i don't even remember correctly you said that i don't even think the chara knew how strong he was at that point but it was it was ugly yes and like bryan mccabe actually saw bryan mccabe works for florida i don't think char's as one of the top best ever oh i see him as this era's layer robinson but i don't think like larry robinson had a run of almost twenty years chara was a bit later not insulting chara right i'm thinking that the best ever to me are or lidstrom larry robinson and you shore guy when three mvp's right doug harvey i think the charge the next level he's with chellios he's in that group i look at two different ways any pod fan i think you throw into that mix as well i look at two ways there's longevity pie.
"larry robinson" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast
"By the way he wanted works for another year right yeah i sure did erin stole are as a capitals fan should i approach the playoffs with any expectation beyond that of inevitable crushing disappointment in the first or second round i kind of see them more battle ready for playoffs ever before is so close but this year they had the grind for you know why i actually thought last year was the everybody has built the words i would say i'm an optimist by nature i don't think you can ever go into anything expecting crushing disappointment aside from dating really yeah i understand why you feel that way i just couldn't live life like that i'm a minnesota vikings fan i understand crushing disappointment i grew up chicago blackhawks fan like there wasn't even anything to be disappointed about they were just never good i just refused to go into every year believing it's going to be terrible i cannot i do not understand people who live life that you hope for the best expect all right how about this one i'm close on this dave baltimore at baltimore davey today where does dana char rank amongst the all time greats not on the top one hundred along with malkin might have been those would have been the two awfully locate the best defense of all time we're talking bobby or bob you are nicklaus from larry robinson fulltime hockey sure hockey shore ray bore harvest chellios dominant defense men there is that while there when him and bridge on the ice at the same time nobody touched the puck you know he didn't but you know the interesting thing is he wasn't at that level and auto he got into a new level in boston.
"larry robinson" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets
"Yeah larry robinson was a pretty nasty in the first daily said he was he was he was playing against guys who are completely hung over every game buckled buckled still going out and like pregame sweat with a pregame skate made to have them sweat out yes that is a known fact smell like a swamp are you that's all is pregame skate with arizona is do they do it i've heard a lot of teams now rely completely done with them i mean i think uh i wanna see who columbus columbus is very anti especially last season maybe the change it i think it has a lot to do with how the teams playing too if you're playing well and you're at work pregame skating the coaches going around with that whereas if you're not skating and then you run an old turn run your skating pregame skate yeah exactly while the other day we more nhl news calgary took a tough loss at home to all she's going to drive no i don't think so but they they are about to get on the plane to go to toronto and the the no ski travel they got change to the old eighty minutes skate in calgary where all of a sudden year just getting carve and we heard about a bag skate a battle drills and all that for the detroit red wings when they lost tender one tend to oil to the montreal canadiens last week speaking to carved boy had he could checks has another here with the dop guys unbelieva you need to call us bears china to jewish jesse this auriol's via opinion here's more like reagan he gave the like you're reagan elisi get a little bit of a rake with the with the stick still did of lebed's still legal but he's probably going to get at least a game out of what are you i'd like to here.
"larry robinson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"To tarasenko with a shot that's off the stick of ben love joy and out of play talking john moore today i said have you defend against tarasenko last year at thirty nine goals the year before had '40s got seven this season he said he's got a quick shot heat beer stick in front of them that's how you got to prevent that shot from getting on golan bed lovejoy just did that deflected it out of luck yeah that's pretty standard done every play matti look at their sticks always stretching towards the clock you know that's a big change from twenty five years ago stick on never larry robinson really really really enforced that and you're right because what else you going to do you can't leave your feet try and block harassing i mean if you start leaving your beat he's going to fake it and then you're going to really be in trouble so it really is how you do with your stick and so far as you mentioned the others have done well let's to over the glass now using their stick which led to another faceoff which was won by saint louis alex the or the slap pass it fraught off the stick of tarasenko in why so now here schwartz to the left point for steam taps it off the wall to himself challenged by blake cullman powerplay for st louis down it goes to shed he had 17 powerplay goals last year for philadelphia around it goes to the left wing in wall ied challenged by calm it lost the pockets three between the circles and the devil's are able to clear fortyfive seconds to go when the devil's penalty kill just coming up on two minutes gone by in the first devils home for three thursday against edmonton saturday against florida so it's henrique and brian gibbons out there along with love joy and green no demon cevers cities a healthy scratch tonight halted perico brings it across the life his pasko's behind the team and has kicked out the centreright so regrouping are the blues lovejoy gets a piece along the far wall and dumps it in so fifteen seconds to go in the heats your mina oscar sundquist out of instock across the lie supposed to strip to the pop stepping out of the box now is he sure.
"larry robinson" Discussed on View From the Penalty Box
"I got myself her to a little bit of trouble here i was back checking opponent but trautmann you use it he would all the way from is in raid into the corner in our own end where the putt was and so we youthful sky back you automatically become centerman your centerman rear was marked se was far sentiment would automatically gouda by defence minister cover that court and so i get in the corner and get the clock and i look up at icegov guinean one other player cupboards full to tilt at the end of hugo bob gainey users of e bought he's good about and i'm in a big cardinal mistake lose nobody's full bought by all i was get ready for him to hit the advice through the pot without looking are all the board's towards my side the ice at a cab he blamed barca's were told me later he apologize he went to the other defense when he did cover eyesight that was in his fought the i shouldn't looked or froze the puk a at terrell the boards and do at and bang bob that collided added wreaked larry robinson the clock robinson got the puck went to the top of the circle took a slap shot bang in the nets that was my falk i did look nobody else's fault well after that i think was another sixteen games toothy games cleanse cleanses sat beyond the best shave might get one shift so huge stood on the ice of got off accounts is a game play so i got off to ease out there you just you know you knew that you were under treaty lock each took that mistake i be very seriously i peter price for sure enough appear to exist in seven games with the orleans they're still led the twenty or twenty reports or in pick up of other quite after that that's where those i for when they go through to the rangers hired her daughter radio.