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#111 Apex Legends Is Coming To Mobile
"Apex? Legends is coming to mobile and more coming up on today's episode of the latest news. He gets here. You're just in time for the latest episode of the world's only three one show on tech gadgets in gaming news. That's right. This is the latest intact news. My name is Taylor Merrick and feature story will be looking at today is well apex legends joining the ranks of fortnight and pug, gene, securing a smartphone app dominance or well. We'll see how that works out. Whilst be looking at some tech news today including Facebook talking privacy, but Google actually building it Google's new nest privacy promise, which may not bode well for some people. Google news, full coverage and podcast results. Coming to search definitely interesting. There ought to be looking at. Why tech giants are so desperate to provide your voice assistant S for gadget news while won't be hooking. At Samsung canceling galaxy fold preordered and forgave me news. We'll be looking. At the day's gone review. But I did you know that Facebook has a blue color scheme because the creator Mark Zuckerberg cannot see the colors red angering also did you know that around twenty percent of all YouTube videos are music related. Suffice. It to say has more than MTV has offer. Even though they're supposed to be. Music video related, but I digress. Moving right along today in tech history. Well, did you know what happened today in tech history? If you didn't well good thing. You're listening today is may seven twenty nineteen in honesty in history. Be IBM seven four was introduced IBM announces the IBM seven four data processing system in nineteen fifty four a world's first mass produced computer to feature floating point arithmetic hardware, besides ultra geeky distinction. The IBM seven oh four believe. It's Mark in computer history before it is discontinued on April seven nineteen sixty both the fortran and lisp programming languages were first developed for the IBM seven four as well. As the first music application called music physicist. John Larry Kelly junior of labs will synthesize speech for the first time in history on an IBM seven. Oh, four not bad for a mainframe, computer. And also. On this day in eighteen ninety five auto Steiger was issued a patent for his millionaire calculating machine for the next forty years. Switzerland, Hans easily manufactured forty seven hundred machines which weighed in at one hundred twenty pounds each. Oh my goodness. You definitely had a workout after that. So now, you're asking me what did you do? Well, the millionaire was notable in its ability to perform direct multiplication, which meant a user could multiply a number by single digit with a single rotation of the handle. So thank goodness. We finally got a calculator. Otherwise, we would have been still stuck cranking. Would have been difficult as all I can say so with that out of the way, let's head on over to today's feature story. All right. Apex? Legends is coming to mobile. Nope. Just like fortnight an pudgy by the way, if you guys are interested the show notes for the articles that we've covered in today's show can be found by going to tech news gadget dot net Ford slash one one one one eleven and you can get all the articles in Aaron if you're listening via podcasts all you have to do is quick more details or tampered swipe or however you do that in the articles links will be right there for you to tap in load. They do include photos and videos, so if you're listening while now, you have another reason to watch as well matter of fact, if you're watching this on YouTube dot com for slash Texans. Gadget. Enjoy all videos to go on. With it. So as we all know, apex legends is hugely popular on PS, four Xbox One in PC in mostly due to the fact that the how it was watched in released and now it's coming to a new platform in a new market as part of publisher Electronic Arts earnings report today CEO, Andrew Wilson, confirmed that a mobile version of the battle royale game is in the works. While EA is also in advanced negotiation to launch a PECS legends in China. We are hugely excited about the future of apex. Legends engagement too strong. We have big plans for the legends in the world. They competed. We're in advanced negotiation to bring apex legends to China anti mobile update, you on timeframes when those negotiations are concluded said Wilson in report. Apex legends coming to Mobile's. Really? No big surprise is the mobile game market is massive in represents another way for EA to make money from the game. The other battle royale juggernauts, pudgy and fortnight also have their own mobile editions, incre another. Major market for games Wilson pointed out that e is self publishing apex legends. There. The game offers an opportunity for us to build a direct connection with our players. They are and we hope to be able to leverage this for other games in his prepared. Remarks Wilson noted that apex. Legends is the fastest growing title in e a history by e as latest count the game reached fifty million players. He also noted that almost thirty percent of apex. Legends players are new to a which is good news for the publisher. We're incredibly excited and humbled by the passionate fans around the world have for apex legends. We're now very focused on delivering for this massive global community what they long-term live service, including new seasons with more bus battle pass content. New legends in exciting evolutions to the in game environment. This is only just beginning for apex legends. I details about the game season two will be announced at the play event in June. So yeah. Well in case, he also bist it during that the earnings call of the announced that by wears new. I pee anthem failed to meet its expectations. However, the company remains committed to expanding improving title in it who knows maybe it'll turn into something of redemption. Kinda like no man's sky. Couple years to come or maybe never. We'll never know. So, but that's not the main point of the news article today, what do you guys think about apex legends? Have you been playing? I have to say for me personally for the time that have played in it. I haven't been able to play many matches recently because of running the show, but from what I did get to play. It was very simple to use very intuitive smooth. I enjoyed it. Very much wasn't really that complicated to understand how to run round or shoot. Or what your character does? Although maybe just a little bit depending on a character. But he's yourself into a deluding curve. Really wasn't that difficult. Now, I for becoming advanced becoming good at the game that obviously takes dedication in practice as with anything else. So suffice it to say don't plan on me going. Crony time soon, but you go pro. That's awesome. We love to hear you go pro and watch your content, by the way, if you have any thoughts that you want to share sure to leave a like any count down blown a comment section, and we'd love to join in on the conversation and see what you have to say moving on. All right in tech news round today, while you know, a Facebook hyping it up and talk and privacy while Google actually built it. So according to Mark Zuckerberg. He said the future is private, and according to Sundar Pichai, the present is private now bubble CEO's made protecting user data central theme of their conference Kino's this month. Facebook's product updates for mostly vague vaporware while Google's were either ready to ship or demo. The contrast highlights the divergence in strategy between the two tech giants. Well, okay, one would expect Google to do. So because Google's around a lot longer to have a lot more foot in game as it is a lot more backing behind them as it were. So. So long as they're able to adjust with the times, I don't really see any problem here for Facebook privacy is a talking point meant to boost confidence in sharing deter regulators in repair its battered image for Google privacy is functional going hand in hand with on device. Data processing to make features faster in more widely accessible, everyone wants to be more private, but we must discern between promises and delivery like mobile on-demand a in blockchain before it privacy. Can't be taken at face value. We deserve improvements to the core of our software in harbor work. Not cosmic add-ons in in invitations. No one really asking for at Facebook's F eight last week. We heard from Zuckerberg about how privacy gives us the freedom to be ourselves. And he reiterated how that would happen through fear, America, secure data storage. He said messenger and Instagram. Direct will become crypt did eventually which duck Aberg had already announced in January detailed March. We didn't get to clear history featured as Berg may. Privacy centerpiece of last year's conference or anything about the data transfer project. That's been for ten months since revealed. So, you know, you forgetting about what the heck's going on marker Dono users did get was a clumsy joke from Burke about how I get a lot of people aren't sure that we're serious about this. I know that we don't exactly have the strongest reputation on privacy right now to put it lightly, but I'm committed to doing this. Well, well, knowing laugh at that joke, at least he admitted that it's not going to happen overnight. But it shouldn't have to Facebook made its Bert. I massive privacy mistake in two thousand seven with beacon, which quietly related your off-site ecommerce and web activity to your friends. It had twelve years a deal with FTC promising to improve countless groups in apologies. Democracy, shaking, Cambridge analytic data scandal that not gonna get into an hours of being grilled by congress to get serious about the problem that makes it clear that if the futures private than the past wasn't Facebook is too late here to receive the benefit of the doubt. So. Google. I o rather. We saw demos from showing how our work on privacy. Insecurities never done in. We wanted to do more to stay head of constantly evolving user expectations instead of waiting to fall. So far behind that users demand more privacy. We will have been steadily working for it the past decade since it introduced chrome incognito mode is changed directions away from using g mail content to target ads in allowing any developer to request access to your Email. There are plenty of since to its own Ford. Google's not stain free on this one. Now in the company is hit with scandals is typically over his frightening efficiency as with its cancelled project. Maven AI military tech not so much as creepy. So with that being said, what do you think you think Facebook's doing better job with privacy? You think they'll actually do a better job when you think about we will we will doing good job at job is I'm gonna read about the article so far. So if you want to read more about it head over to the show notes for this episode. You can read up on the entire article. It goes into more depth about what Google is doing. And what Facebook's doing? So we had to say well time remains to see how this will pan out. Out onto some more news apparently Google's in a news again because their new nest privacy promise. Kind of bit iffy. You see Google wants to be inside your home. It wants to sell. You cameras alarm systems invoices systems to make your life, and maybe it's targeted advertising business that much easier. But there's a problem people don't necessarily trust big tech companies or their camera equipped smart displays right now in Moghul may not have had that scandal on his hands at Facebook did a couple of recent incidents with its nest division could have given buyers. Pause. A string of digital break ins were nest cameras like strangers deliver fake nuclear bomb threats in spy on babies over the internet, not exaggerating and revelation at the nest secure alarm system had a secret microphone buyers never knew about now that side as Google announced. It's going to sell a device that's not all different from the Facebook portal. Who's most every review wondered, whether you should really invite a Facebook camera into your home? Facebook also decided to publicly take ownership for privacy going forward. Now, here's the high level overview in while Google. I didn't actually share them. During today's Google Keno there available for you to read on the web the overview is will explain our centers in how they work the technical specifications. For are connected. Home devices will list all audio video in environmental inactivity sensors, whether enable or not, and you can find types of data these senses collect in how that data is used in various features on our dedicated help center page will explain how your video footage audio recordings and home environment sensor, readings are used to offer helpful features in services in our commitment for how will keep the state of separate from advertising. Add personalization will explain hiking control and manage your data such as providing you with the ability to access review, delete audio and video stored with your Google account at any time, but the full document gets way more specific than than remarkably a number of the promises, aren't the typical wishy washy legally, you might expect some are totally unambiguous some of them go against the grain like how nest won't let you turn off the recording light on your camera anymore. So here's what they said. Your home is a special. Place. It's where you get to decide who you invite in is the place for sharing family recipes and watching babies take for steps you want to trust the things you bring into your home in recommitted to earning that trust. Now genuine question for you, particularly if you wind up reading through the whole thing does this set your mind at ease. Are you any more willing? You're interested in place, new Google branded camera on your home, while the author of this article is of two minds part of them is impressed by the plain English. And by Google's willingness to sacrifice the public relations air gap by adding its own name to the nest division, it's Google nest now, and they apparently ready have cameras in their home that they don't necessarily trust or don't work as worldly liked to might be in the market for new ones. But the other part of them worries that is just a shoot marketing campaign away to sweep previous concerns under the rug in Google could changes find in policies at anytime. Obviously there's a link to the full privacy promise on the west side as well. So you can go take a look at it. But but this privacy thing coming up again. And again, and again, and again, I don't know. I'm actually thinking myself, I really should just go in depth and get a really interesting article on this on tech news gadget website, because it's something that had been thinking about I don't really want to express my thoughts right now because they would come out jumbled in piecemeal. So I have a lot of thinking to do and how I'm gonna construct the article in. Maybe if I'm gonna talk to Indy. Individuals or analysts or people could help me with this. We'll see how it goes all I can say that well for some on some. Yeah, it's a concern. And some kind of really isn't. But doesn't really matter. I mean. Goodness. I mean, I can understand the extent to why you would want it to. But really to some extent. It doesn't really matter who I don't want to know that I'm blinking. My is five hundred times a minute. K good the heck cares. Why do in my eyes? I blink. If they want to. Okay. Now, we're getting a little bit ridiculous. You see if you didn't let me know that the comment and I'll see if I can get back to you on art. And I might not even have a full argument left to reply to. I might just even say, I don't know. So that's my thoughts. So far, let's move on to the next article. So also in Google I o developer conference kicking off Sundar Pichai began to Keno talking about search Google bread and butter now, we've on scene Evelyn over time that Google has made the dominant search engine Goto, basically everyone. But this he no brings a next step in volition when you search for relevant topic. Search will full you. Wow. I can't read search will show. You full news coverage relating to the entry and podcasts about it. Interesting podcast. Now, we understood that Google podcast. Thank goodness. They left Google play in finally turned into something worthy of being podcast ready. Now, they're moving into integrating it with the search engine in keynote the example, they use was the black hole image from earlier this year. Just search black hole in demo showed off new stories about the imaging the name in its meaning. And so on in short it creates. A highly contextual search result that helps you get the important info fast podcasts can be added to listen later playlist for your commute, home or in your home. For those wondering news and podcasts will be coming to search later this year, according to Google, and they got some photos that go along with it. So it's kind of interesting, it's got links the stories YouTube videos, and then even has links to podcasts about the story, so stuff, you should know. How stuff works? What people are saying about it. Interesting interesting stuff. So I'm excited about this, man. I love podcasting. I can't wait. I'm the I'm excited about what this means finally integrated into a search engine being would you guys got coming Microsoft or waiting? Moving onto another one of our last tech news articles. Why tech giants are so desperate to provide your voice assistant? Now, I'm only going to read a little bit about this this article comes to us from the Harvard Business Review. L let you guys redress. Share your thoughts of which I'm always interested in you could share them on Twitter at tech news gadget or on video at YouTube dot com for tech news gadget. Nephew listening to podcasts. Head on. Head on over to our show wherever it is. There's comment secretary can leave your thoughts. But my question is while why are the top tech companies in the world spending, billions of dollars, investing, invoice assistance, in smart speakers that lose them money every quarter? I bet you didn't even know this. Amazon reportedly has ten thousand employees working on Alexa, tear down analysis suggests that Google home mini is sold at a loss. Every time is discounted which is quite frequently. Samsung has introduced a dedicated button on its phones for Bixby which consumers regularly remand to be was Google insistent. Instead, it was really funny, and Microsoft is no longer trying to compete with Alexa, or Google assistant. But is still investing in Cortana. Now, each of these companies and others have different reasons for their continued investment. Some are attempting to protect a dominant franchise such as online commerce for Amazon in search advertising. New Google's case others are trying to break into spaces where they have been excluded such as digital content distribution display advertising. Search an cameras now a couple of have both scenarios in mind. You can only understand the voice platform wars by first recognizing net, voice assists than specifically represent both a platform in a user, interface shift comparable to the web and smartphones. The key difference that these new pet forms are neither based on open standards, nor on relatively open access to consumers voice assistance. Introduce a proprietary intermediary into all digital consumer interactions. This scenario both excites in frightens, the leading tech companies that carved out enviable positions in earlier, web and smart form smartphone, platform words, see voice assistance, represent the third key. You I and technology platform shift of the past three decades following the web in nineties in smartphones about ten years ago. Each successive, you I shift changed the way humans interacted with in excess digital content web pages gave us quick where we serve using our mouths inactivated buttons hyperlink smartphones introduced touch swipe in pinch to billions of consumers in replaced web pages with apps. Both of these transitions required consumers to learn new language for interacting with peck. Now, the shift to voice doesn't require any training users simply speak naturally. Each of these UI changes was accompanied by a new technology platform. The World Wide Web was built on the back of the internet. The PC proliferation nailed web pages to be easily accessible smartphone and mobile operating systems such as Android were important developments. But the app economy also relied on the introduction of cloud computing for efficiently delivering content along with regular feature. Updates in performance enhancements, voice computing, relies on artificial intelligence for speech, recognition and natural language. Understanding it is also being used to dynamically improve user experiences. So article goes on to explain a little bit more about the web mobile in juicing new ways to conduct business enhancing of old methods specific companies dominating in different areas in invoice bots being used, but it's. Kind of interesting seen as how it really has. No like. Collection are open source. It's all like, Microsoft user, funnel, Google user funnel Amazon years there. Funnel samsung. Here's their funnel end. They're all like. Weirdly enough. They're all working on the exact same thing for speech, but just like four or five different ones, then some each with their own. I mean, I you guys idiots you'd have it so much easier to nail down if you all had like a common thing connecting all of them. So that you could save so much time in our in in money in research and trying to figure out how this all works. You could get your solution faster asked my thoughts. What do you guys think this good idea bad idea? Let me know in case you're wondering why why are you was asking for common for your thoughts while because the show is mainly made possible because of listeners like you and the show reports on the things that are of interest to you. So I'd like to know what you guys think. So if you didn't like it, if you did like it, if there's something you want to know, let me know, you know, got. I think so. All right now moving on to some gadget news. And I know you guys just saw me quick overrun screen, but Samsung is apparently canceling galaxy fold pre-ordered so have thanks a lot stupid journalists for lighting your smartphones on fire. But Samsung said today that it cannot predict when it will be able to ship its innovative galaxy fold smartphone as such it will automatically cancel all pre orders customers notify it. Otherwise, if we do not hear from you, and we have not shipped by may thirty first your order will be cancelled automatically reads. A Samsung emailed sent to those who preordered a two thousand dollar folding handset. So if you've got Email, great, if you didn't preordered now, you know, briefly position as an example of Samsung's technical acumen that galaxy full become an embarrassment to the smartphone giant other phone makers, especially why quickly announced your designs, and then reviewers received the first galaxy fold units immediately began reporting serious design flaws, so Samsung, obviously canceled it on promised to fix whatever was wrong in. Going to prove difficult if not impossible as fold will obviously require a major redesign be kind of surprising, if the fold ships this year, but we'll see how everything goes, I I was really looking forward to phone a foldable phone just he means something cool. Give me something fun me. Something actually works. Allies. I'm gonna drop a pool in CIO long floats for before bubble said a bottom. And moving on to our last article. Of course, it's a gaming article today days gone review. Now, this comes to us from dread central dot com. Well, they looked at the PS four version of days gone now article goes on to state is it just me or is it something quite a bit quaint about open world zombie survival games. They were all the rage for Indy. Dabs trying to make it big like eight years ago. These e seven days today stated decay project Zomba even mainstream titles like call duty in red dead redemption got in on his ambi- action. Heck, even fortnight did there's a Spartan logic to this has arby's are basically a way to justify not having the program AI. Although I can I can agree with half of that statement, the other half is the I the news programs arby's that for games that. I really really enjoy a it's not easy. Gotta you. Gotta have lot programming behind cynicism aside. There's no denying that the perfect zombie survival game is a distant shimmering fantasy of many gamers, most of us have zombie survival plan n being able to see that brought to life in gaming. It would be like Walter white inventing, superman, whatever that means for you get your hopes up days gone is not that game. Many thought it might be when I announced at e three twenty sixteen reveal trailer showed a promising duel between a biker in a massive swarm zombies. It was the kind of well coolness that was generally deserved to describe men who have one real world fights with bears. The way zombies port over each other in a seemingly endless consuming time with no sign of stopping is the stuff of genuine nightmares. The subsequent twenty seventeen trailer. Showcase the main character infiltrating camp during a nearby zombie hoard in blowing up a wall to allow to be to do the heavy list, the heavy lifting. Totally awesome. Unfortunately is largely absent from the final game. No. It turns out that days gone is not the game. We thought it would be absent as much of the living world in unique interaction showcased in e three trailers. Stare in bits and pieces. But certainly not to the scale where we were led to believe it seems to be where much of the criticism is coming from the game is getting skewered by many critics in. You can see why if you go in expecting a deep survival crafting game in open living world you'll be sorely disappointed. You'll be much happier. If you go in the blank slate for all the things that days gone, doesn't do it does what it does vary effectively. So they're gonna front loader criticism there much of what brings days gone down comes in. I ten hours notice not typo the first Wapping ten hours of the game are confusing mess launched off with a far too. Brief in destroying flashback requ introduced to main character deacon Saint John and his best buddy boozer in assumed to be dead pilot device slash wife. Sarah anesthesia, the apocalypse in a strange infection is turning people into wait for free cours. Yup. Called zombies freak offers, and they are sticking with it, the quick cut editing in rush pacing of dissection are so bad that I got suicide squad vibes. It felt like days gone was trying very hard to pull the emotional punches of the last of us. But in the first thirty seconds the game, then jumps two years. The future were boozer in deacon are mid pursuit of a guy that stole some stuff after the first Dettori missions days, gone starts in earnest. The world opens up into camps that served as merchants end mission hubs so goes on. But you have all this stuff going on to be clear. This is the part where days gone kind of sucks way too. Many characters are introduced without a whole lot payoff or acid immediately care about the fate of best friend. You know, nothing about none of the bad guys are properly established in a busy work quest have very little payoff beyond better guns in motorcycle upgrades. So the author got sick a plane in actually dreading the map would open it self into more pointless, busy work, but beyond ten hours at the finally get more interesting finally gets more fun. So this girl to to the bottom of it. Unless you want to read the whole review in which case, you certainly can they will be the last link in article show notes. Now, it's not the ride that you'd expect. But days gone is one heck of a ride. It's a slow burn. But when it does get there it delivers there's enough variety and characters missions and tasks to keep you consistently engaged. Most importantly sufficient endgame challenged her word all time you put into maxing out your arsenal of seeing. Critics openly state. They find it boring. But I couldn't disagree more pass the first two zones. I have never felt like the grind was an actual Brian. It doesn't a perfect game. But that's some of the highest praise in open world game can earn man. The rating that they gave on days gone is four out of five stars. So if you can make it through the first act, the frequent hordes might just win you over. So those who have played days gone is worth the hype is fun game. Do you enjoy it me? Personally. I'm waiting for off. I could think of that game dying light to I'm waiting for that game to come out that game was fun. Depar- core do triple somersault backflip, and then like shoot zombie. Like, no, look, no look three sixty point blank in the head like off banned from like four hundred meters away. Nelson is amazing this game. And then at night they run in when they run they run fast. They jump. They try to kill you actually wanted to phone her games that I very much indeed in zombie. John. Right. This is me talking not the author of the article. So that's the game that I'm looking for a two. But if you enjoy days on be sure to let me now. In with that that wraps up this episode of delays in tech news. Thanks for tuning in guys, new episodes, every weekday blazed in tech news can be found on every major platform in Kuiti, apple podcasts. Spotify Google podcasts. Youtube Stitcher, overcast in more. Now. If you do it this episode, let's no by clicking net like button and leaving a comment. Also double check that you are subscribed. So that you don't miss the next episode, then feel ascending via podcasts. Be sure to leave us a review out a night tunes. 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Remember My Name - 2020 Domestic Violence In Memoriam
"I don't need help. I'm not in an abusive relationship. This is just how it is for us home. It's a lie, we tell ourselves one that many in abusive relationships repeat until they believe it but there's hope welcome to I'm not in an abusive relationship a podcast about surviving Domestic and Sexual Violence. This show is about hope you will hear from survivors of abuse their stories may sound familiar. They may even Inspire hope our goal is to connect with others in these toxic relationships to offer them. Hope and was supporters of our mission anyone willing to help get rid of abuse in our culture. We also talked with the experts in the field from the officers on the front lines of domestic abuse calls to the therapy and Advocates helping survivors navigate this complicated Road of recovery. If you're in need of help, please visit our website or call our 24/7 hotline eight hundred eight hundred a month. To 3 and at this is an emergency and you need help immediately. Please call 911 welcome to I'm not in an abusive relationship with your host Claudia Paul's welcome to juice the program today. This episode of our podcast is dedicated to those victims of domestic violence victims who will not be survivors who hath lost their lives October is domestic violence awareness month and to honor those victims of domestic violence. There are many vigils that are held everywhere in the world during that month to honor those victims. So today's podcast is dedicated to the victims who have died starting in nineteen seventy one through this year victims thousand men women and children who are victims in our area to the women children and Men listed they've all died because of the determination and Desperation of one individual. To maintain power and control over another please help us. Remember those whose lives were taken and to emphasize the need for continued efforts to stop down and sexual violence. Roberta Millard from Mendon, Michigan April 28th, 1971 died at the hands of her husband Winston Millard. She was the mother of six children. And he may Washington thirty-eight years old from Three Rivers died in nineteen seventy-seven. She was killed by her live-in boyfriend length, Thomas Carl Harmon from Sturgis died in 1978. He was killed by his daughter's boyfriend Thomas Baker Lonnie Frank's from Leonidas died in nineteen eighty when he was killed by an acquaintance James Alexander Donald R A N E. Davis from Three Rivers, Michigan 1998 killed by their son Danny Davis and their home Tommy fields from Three Rivers, Michigan Dead 1981 killed by his wife after a long history of domestic violence within a relationship Pauline Christine Albie from consult eighteen. Nineteen eighty-one murdered by her husband Richard Wayne Alby while their children were present in their home Brenda Runyon from st. Joseph County. Nineteen eighty-two sexually assaulted and murdered by Paul Bell after a brief relationship Liotta Marquardt home. 71 from Edwardsburg, February Nineteen Eighty-Four killed by her estranged husband who then killed himself. Jennifer Tyson from Sturgis Nineteen Eighty-Four was murdered as an infant by her mother's boyfriend James eversole. The child died of injuries consistent with shaken baby syndrome. Linda Van Buskirk from Three Rivers 1985 stalked by an acquaintance Ricky Moore who then killed her while she was jogging near her home. Pauline holds house 74 and her sister Mildred hack 70 from 3Rivers April 1986 killed by Pauline's 81 year old her husband who then took his own life France of Harker 53 from Sturgis, April 1986 killed by Douglas riddle and acquaintances of the family. Sandra L. E 36 from Constantine March 1988 killed by her husband while at home with their three young children. He then killed himself off Kathy Schwarz. Nineteen Three Rivers December 1988 was sexually assaulted and then murdered in her apartment when an infant child present the case remains unsolved Marsha Cozart 36 from Sturgis 1989 killed by her boyfriend Leonard. She was the mother of two children Catherine Young from Centerville. Nineteen eighty-nine killed by her nephew Rex touch all in a house Manus from Three Rivers 1990 walk by her husband while living in the Latvian Center near Three Rivers. He then killed himself. Martin Keely from Nottawa 1990 killed by his son, Larry Kelly who was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Deborah Roberts thirty-three from Vandalia July nineteen. Ninety killed by her boyfriend. She was survived by two children Rosalie. Bausman 21 from Cassopolis. Nineteen. Ninety-one murdered by her close friend Chris. Demek 27 from Kalamazoo, February 1991 murdered by her boyfriend. God Steven Rose eight months from Cass County December. Nineteen. Ninety one died by the hands of his father Brian Logan 17 from Three Rivers killed by his mother's boyfriend William Duncan. Louis Krantz 40 from Kalamazoo July 1992 abducted and killed by her husband Louis was seven months pregnant and left behind three children. Louis string 25 from Sturgis, October 1993 killed by his wife Joan string. He was survived by a daughter named Norman Hicks 22 from Three Rivers 1993 killed by his girlfriend. He was survived by his son Becky Stowe 15 from Niles 1993 murdered by her boyfriend. Her body was found in 1995 lady Monique Connelly 3 months from Three Rivers November 1994 died of asphyxiation both her parents were convicted in this case Andrew Mitchell to Chromecast. Sapless December 1994 killed by his father Michael Mitchell Talisha Melton seven years old from Centerville dead. 1995 killed by her mother hope Melton Carol nap from Montville, February Nineteen Ninety Six murdered by three acquaintances of her husband dead. Vanessa Hicks 12 Ginger Hicks. Seven, Erica Hicks 3 from Vicksburg, February 1997 died in a housefire by their father who also died in the fire James and a Rooney Schumann from Three Rivers 1997 killed by their seventeen-year-old son Douglas Schumann. Brittany beers six of Sturgis September 1997 Britney was last seen sitting on a bench in front of her home in Sturgis. She vanished and has never been found dead. The case remains unsolved Carlene raykovitz Kane 36 from Baroque 1997 killed by her boyfriend who then committed suicide a few days later. She left behind three children, Doctor Harvey Wilks 1998 killed by his estranged wife who then killed herself. Doctor Wilkes was a medical examiner of Saint Joseph College for several years in the 1990s. Charles Clark 1998 killed by his wife Brenda Clark Charles is survived by a daughter Maggie and Coleman 16 from Paw Paw Patch September 1998 killed by her ex-boyfriend who then killed himself. Monica Voight's formerly from Three Rivers 1991 killed by her husband at her Oregon home. She is survived by two children who were raised by her parents in Three Rivers Pearl Evans 48 from Decatur March two thousand died two months after sustaining extensive injuries that were inflicted by her husband Lawrence Evans off Keith Driscoll 41 his wife Kimberly Driscoll 39 and their son Corey Driscoll 12 from Marcellus, May two thousand. The family was killed by their summer weather Keith Driscoll Jr. Keith Jr. Later committed suicide. Penny Sue gloor 41 from Sturgis, June two thousand killed by her husband James blower who then committed suicide. Jeanette K. Kelly 42 from Portage August two thousand killed in her home by her former boyfriend Dale McNiel who then killed himself her two daughters escaped as a result of a safety plan their mother had made George Pluto 47 from Paw Paw August two thousand killed by John Petrucci. 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Hour 4: 3/20/19
"Cried passionate and patterns re of college. Football leaves Keer. The Paul finebaum show our four podcast. We welcome you back. It is a delight to have reached the final hour of our program tonight. It's been a really good one, Tim Brando earlier coach white from Florida Jay Bilas. But. Our final guest is the all time showstopper. If you haven't seen this this is from the spun a website, which I really couldn't tell you one thing about, but they they were smart enough to play off the massive egos of people in our business, including myself and do a bracket Stephen a Smith, Colin cowherd skip Bayless, and they had me as three seat, which is ridiculous. I'm not annoying at all. But our next guest is is a fourteen and for whatever reason we are pitted against one another which is just seems criminal. I welcome to our show Katie Nolan who's always late with Katie Nolan. You can find everywhere Katie never met. So it's great to finally say Hello to you. And welcome you to our program. It's great to meet you as well. Thanks for having me. I wish it was under different circumstances. I did too. I. When I was up in New York all follow and see over in the little corner. And you guys were getting ready to show, and I was basically loafing and doing nothing. So I didn't wanna bother. But I I don't this is not the right thing to start off a relationship on the air or anywhere. But I think you're far more knowing annoying than I am. So why why why am I three and your fourteen anything? I'm far more annoying you. Well, she's Paul. You know, I I was going to start off by saying, I also do think I'm probably more annoying than you. But now, I feel like I got a switch my position you're much more knowing than mere you kidding, no. I'm excited about the match up. I feel like you might get out of this in the first round which is the goal. I guess of this bracket like you don't wanna win. I feel like your odds are pretty good. Because I I see you see your name in these places. But I realized last year I beat the website in the first round. So the fact that they put me back in this year's pretty amazing. I don't do you know, what the spun is no clue. Okay. Makes two of us. Well, let's talk a little bit about you for a second because we can come back to epic match three or four teams or not that coveted anyways more. It's more like the five twelve matchup, but for someone and I don't want to ever like to classify people, but you have not been in the business for that long. But you've had a pretty amazing career. So far, I believe you come from Boston. You've been a bartender. You've won a sports. Emmy, you pretty much done at all in very finite period of time. What's it like to be Kate Katie Nolan? You know, not as exciting as you just made it sound. But no, it's been really cool. I kind of came up in a non traditional way. Now, I'm here at ESPN the worldwide leader, I've got a show on ESPN. Plus, you can see right there on the font. It's it's been really great. It's been exciting. Hopefully, it's not done yet. That would be fantastic for me. And for my parents because they're so proud, but yeah, it's been cool. It's cool because they kind of carved out this little thing that I do. And I I just do that. And I don't have to do any other stuff, which I find pretty great. You were at FOX and were incredibly successful there with the garbage time show. And and I I would like maybe just ask some pedestrian questions because that's what I do here. I ask a lot of pedestrian questions but selling knowing it is. We've got to be careful. There's somebody might think this is working, you know, there's no work. But but Katie by question is. Your approach it's different than than traditional approach. Obviously. Even even of the place that you work for those who aren't as from me with you as those of us geeks in the business. How would you describe it? I would say it's a it's a lighter. Look at sports. You know, I grew up like you said around Boston. And so I grew up as sports fan. But I'm obviously not an expert. I'm not the person you turn to when you need to know. You know, who's defense is running. What system it's just not my thing? I'm here as the voice of the fan, the person who loves sports and loves the silly stuff that happens around sports. Sometimes there's the serious stuff that happens that I feel like needs to be addressed. So I try to do that as best. I can. But you know, I I would say my thing is just looking at sports as a fan and giving voice to that. And hopefully, make people laugh in the process. I remember seeing something you did up. There was a Yankees game. It was really quite. Larry's I can't remember exactly what you did. But you went to Yankees game with one of your colleagues and just out there believe in the grandstand eating and drinking and who knows what else. Yeah. It seems like your public publicly and I went to. A gang Red Sox game. The Red Sox won. Obviously they went onto win the World Series. But yeah, just a fun sitting up in the in the not great seats. I don't think you're supposed to film in the stadium but star phones, and so we just kind of made it work. I'm that Sunday because you've worked at FOX you working ESPN now. And it's just my opinion. I've been doing this many many years that people in the industry do take themselves. Maybe just a little too seriously. I know they came as a as a shot across the bow there. But, but I would like your view of it because you you don't seem to fit into any of the or most of the so-called check boxes that you would get even at ESPN. Yeah. I think that I understand why people in sports sometimes taking themselves too seriously. We're talking about something that is basically kind of silly. If you really think about it too much. So if you always talk about it like it silly, then who would ever take it seriously? So I get it. But I do think that there is a space for somebody who will kind of turn that on its head, and and make fun of some of the times when we go a little too far in acting like sports or this gigantic deal, that's like life or death. When clearly it isn't. And yeah, I probably don't check a lot of the boxes which has been a good thing in a bad thing with in terms of finding opportunities and figuring out my place and all this. But luckily, I'm really annoying. And so I just bugged the the studios and the and the networks until I get something kind of close to what I let me ask you, very parental question. What is your place at a company, even like, the worldwide leader? Scott really heavy really fast. I guess my place is just like I've always said, it's like dessert. So everybody else on this network. Who is incredible at their jobs. I don't think that I should do what they do. And I don't in any way think that I could or want to my job is just to be the you watch all the other shows during the day you hear from very smart an informed people like yourself, and then you come to us when it's like, okay. I've heard all the information ready to kinda just chill now. That's what my show always late is aiming to do. In terms of what you do always late. How would you compare and contrast or even differentiate that from what you do on your podcast? Well, as right now, it's sort of differentiating itself in that we spent so much time working on the show. It's it's once a week, but we put a lot of effort into it. We have a lot of things where working on throughout the week that then culminate with the show that the podcast is sort of just where we kick back, and relax, and it's less scripted. It's more just a loose conversation between myself and my producer slash now. Best friend, actually banned. And so it's just like a fun more relaxed if possible I know that sounds crazy version of what we do in the show, which is more scripted since obviously, I'm the solo host. So you can't really have a discussion with yourself though. I do do that every day in my house. At some point your I don't know if you started, but you're a comedian. And I know you were on was it Kimmel couple months ago when you go on a program like being from a comedic background being on a tremendously large platform with a comedian describe what that is like, I think credibly nerve wracking hear me and your person who still gets very nervous and sometimes looks around the room wondering how I got here. And if I belong, but you kind of power through that. And luckily kennels of very nice guy. And so he makes you very comfortable immediately. And you just I guess convince yourself that you have something important to say and people want to hear you say it, and then you just sort of blackout for most of it. And then you wake up when it's over and you review the tape and see what you said, would you think when you watch the next? I mean, I talked about it probably wouldn't talked about on TV. But you know, what Paul you review the tape you fix your mistakes for the next time? That's what I'm hoping to do. I can't watch shelf because I don't like anything. I see. So maybe maybe I should subscribe to what you do. Maybe if I did maybe I wouldn't be here the next day. But are you one of those who when you walk out of a show you immediately start obsessing over what you did wrong versus enjoy. What you did? Right. I used to be used to watch every show back and take notes, and you know, try to fix it or change it because especially when you do once a week show. It's a lot easier to dwell on it because you have another week until your next show. Whereas if you're every day, or even if you're live sort of just like it happened. There's nothing we can do. But I think that after few years of doing that, I was driving myself crazy. And so now, I just do the driving myself crazy leading up to the show. And then once it's over I just sort of take a huge nap. Except today I came here to do this because I was excited to finally talk to you. And to let you know that you're going to beat me because you're not. Well, listen, I I'm competitive, but this is one of those contests where I'm gonna live with it either way. But speaking of that because this is I'm one of my pet peeves is putting my hand over my ears on Thursday and Friday when everyone we know starts telling us about their bracket, or are you one of those or do you get into it? Like most people. I mean, it is kind of like your fantasy team in football when everyone talks about their rosters. And they think that people care when they don't so. Yeah, I don't I don't think talking about your own bracket is all that. Interesting. Clearly, you know, there are some people you wanna hear their opinions to help inform your bracket, but it's just a it's mostly a selfish thing, it's for you. And you really don't need to share it with other people. And even I'm saying those words, I know people are still going to talk about their brackets as if anybody really cares last year mind was busted right away. So I sort of go into it now with a I don't care. I'm just going to pick some random stuff and pretend I know what I'm talking about. Tallahassee and we'll see how that works out fine. Finally, you've done quite a bit in your career. If you could paint a perfect picture of what you would like to do moving forward. What would it be? Well, I've never been good at this question. Because I always it sounds stupid. But I'm always very focused on what I'm doing right now and trying to make that as good as possible. So we're in our twenty somethings episode of the show. And so my goal right now is to we have I think we have forty to get through. So I wanna make sure those keep getting better every week. And then, you know, I Delia guess my career goal is to have a show like this. That's a a late night vibe type of show hosted by me, ideally, with guests, and I like working with athletes because I don't think they're used to being asked questions that are off of their normal script, and I like putting them in those positions. So I think something sports related like that. This is I mean, I'm really living the dream Paul. I couldn't I wouldn't change it for the world. Late night show, and it was on tonight or who would your guest list? Oh god. You obviously knew that was the first answer. Yeah. We'd have you in like a and b block that feels important? And then I don't know. Maybe we'd go over to like Tom Brady. And he seems like a cool guy. I would would not mind chatting with for minute. And then I don't know we'd have probably some sort of musical guests who are you into right now. Basis. No one. No one right now. Maybe it'd be you. We just have you over decent. I used to play the saxophone back in high school. So I could probably arrange that. Perfect your own Kenny. Gee, that would be a good guess too. Listen, I I wanna wish you well. I want to be fair about that. Because we both work for the same company. And but you probably not going to win. So yeah, I think I am Paul. I don't think you're that annoying. I think I'm pretty annoying. And I think people know that I think fourteen was a little bit of a low seed for me probably should have been higher up. But you know, either way I'm just glad we can remain friends when it's all over. We will we will meet again 'cause we've yet to meet other than. The television. Katie thanks now, you've got a lot going on. We really appreciate coming back. Thank you so much fought Katie Nolan from always late with Katie Nolan facing me and the spun big time website, that's one that you wake up in the morning. I've got to see what the spun has to say they have sixty four team bracket. No play in games for the small. We'll take a short break back with your phone calls after this listening to Paul finebaum show podcast back in. Glad you're here. Really a fun show today in predate Katie Nolan for dropping by here a moment ago. Let's get back to the calls and Becky is in mobile, Alabama. Hello, Becky, welcome to our show. Hi how hi there Moore's album fan. And I just like to go on record Siam that we're going to win that first game. We're gonna bake Kansas. We're going to beat North Carolina. And we're gonna go on to play date and bring home that championship. I also like this. I I'm very proud of brace Pearl and when he's done with our program. I mean, he that whole gang that Tennessee was embarrassing. The why he just said I roam the side. I'm looking crazy. I mean and his best players couldn't even do anything. And we had Harper on the bench. Now, we are taking at the right time. Where's your thoughts? Well, I think that is that's fact, and I think this is when you wanna pee it was an amazing game. I hope and I'm pretty sure Bruce is capable of moving past that for some schools winning the conference championship might be a just another another another check Mark I Kentucky winning four straight years. But for Auburn. It was a big deal hasn't happened in thirty five years. I thank you very much for the call. I do appreciate that. Tony you are next up. How are you? Tony. We're doing great. Thank you. I wanna ask you to Arkansas. I know they're not the NCAA they had to go lower Tate. But I thought they look very very more aggressive without gathered. I taking with gap the exit by I think it made him quicker. And when he thinks that was an amazing when you think about him battling out of the game. I thought the team had energy. I I don't know if you I'm gonna read retu- much into it. If if Arkansas can win a couple of games on I think, it would definitely help. But it's a nice way to to to to continue the season a lot of schools. I don't think it a lot out of the NIT. But you go on the road and win a game. Like that without your best player. It can help you and building confidence. And that's a program that has to win. There's no tomorrow for Mike Anderson. He can't talk about a rebuilding plan. He has to get some wins next year, or there will be a lot of heat on him to give us a ring. Eight five five two four to seven. Two eight five Gordon in North Carolina. Hello, gordon. Nice of you to call. Hey, Mr. finebaum, the arrogance North Carolina caller from yesterday. Thank was really being air. Get I I I wasn't really talking about you personally. I think it's just the, but I will say this after listening to Tim Brando today. Maybe I understand it. I don't know if you heard Brando, but he said this North Carolina team is maybe the most underappreciated he's ever seen. And that's a significant statement for someone who lives in the ACC like he does. Not live literally. But live in the term in in terms of the games. He covers so much yet. Yes, sir. I really felt like we should beat Duke and as C C tournament with on. We was like four twenty four from the I couldn't hit more threes than we did that. No, I, and I just I really I know how some tar heels can be. But we really we really want the kitty cats, I want all of them Kentucky friends of mine to know, we really want some of the kitty cats, and and just you live in North Carolina yourself, you gotta Chapel Hill. It's all sunny imputable. And then you go over to Duke, and it looks like east Germany win. Yup. Saying I'll put stuff dark gloomy. Always black cloud hanging over and stuff. Well, listen, I I have living here for a couple years gotten a pretty good education in the ACC, which is amazing when you consider where I mainly swim. But I'm fast, I'm an ACC fan. I'm not one of these guys that comes on here just to promote the brand that that we were affiliated with. I'm a huge fan. I think the has been very dominant in the regular season. And if they can if they can finish it off. It's an amazing accomplishment yet. Yes, sir. And one more thing. I heard you mention something about Alabama and Clinton earlier. What was that? Gordon, spoke all goes there. Mr. fumble you had something about I really think as long as Tarzan flash. Trevor Lawrence is down. There clips it's going to be. We'll oats and clemson's probably gonna be the number one team in the country this year, Gordon, but I think they're losing way too much defensively to win it again. That's just an opinion in mid March on the first day of spring, nothing that can't be changed many times in the process. Hey, thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. We still have plenty of time. If you want to give us a ring at eight five five two four to seven to eight five Wednesday night fast approaching springs officially here. Thank goodness. Winter's gone. And we are coming right back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. We're back. Let's continue with more phone calls and check in next with Dan in Louisiana. Hello, dan. You're on the air. Dan, you there? About Bill in Virginia. Hey, bill. Welcome to the program. Good afternoon. Yes, sir. Thanks for taking my call. First time I've ever called in great. And not just doing you. Tina screener. Give me your school Tennessee in my son in my money went to university of Virginia. And I noticed the both. Unfortunately, I saw both of one in two spots in the in the south. So I could have been no win or lose pop. I can't decide which way could happen. But how do you think the matchup would go between those two teams, Tennessee? Yes, sir. I think it's. I mean, I think Virginia may have the best team in the country. So start with that. But Tennessee is is maybe really not behind them at all. It's a fair match up. I thought Jay Bilas made a really good point. In terms of the slowdown and low scoring teams clashing with each other comes down to shooting. I believe in Tennessee going to be able to make the shots. I think they're capable of it. Yes. Well, I it's hard. It's hard to really make that call right now that game is is a week and a half away. Projected to be a week and a half away. But I think it I liked Virginia in this tournament without side on scene primarily because of the motivational factor. I think Tony Bennett has a great opportunity to to have to have among the great redemption stories of all time from being knocked out in the first round for the first time to winning it. All. Oh, sure. Because I believe me, they in fact, you talking to over junior people that alumni, whatever not, you know, they were talking about the fact you can't even that that in Shamanov or two things we'll be rigged up in Virginia is really I'm a fan of Tony's. I'd really like to see him pull it off. Again. I whatever happens with Tennessee and Virginia. I I have no control over that. So I don't get hung up on it. But I think he's he's done such a great job and has gotten very little credit though because of his NCWA tournament record. Yeah. Because it's funding the last three years, and I saw this down for the tournament last week in the last three years he's had a much better record overall in the conference, then either absolutely ROY or or coach K I mean, and you have to have to be a really good coach to do that we can week out. It's, but you know, he's not. I mean, you you sound like you've watched a lot of basketball Bill that was you you go back to the eighties. Ray Ray Meyer from depaul had three consecutive years where he was a number number one seed, you know, what he lost every first round game. It happens. Sometimes. Now. And it was funny because I, unfortunately, I'm movies Tennessee for a couple of years about the time, Bruce Pearl in trouble. So when I was there. I mean, the wheels came over here. Yeah. I was in the Iverson at tendency when I was ten of those programs that with the exception of that one year with the Bruce went to the elite eight they've they've somewhat underperformed traditionally in the turnament their best team ever in maybe maybe until this year in nineteen seventy six and seven lost in the first round to with to first team all American so. I think sometimes that stuff sticks with you. But I think Virginia's case I think there I think they're they're well suited for a run. I do appreciate your call. Jimmy is next up in Chicago. Hey, jamie. That set asleep team and seventy seven I think north chain had broke. They did you're absolutely right. He played with it. And he played poorly. Yeah. He I mean, he just played I think just from a psychological standpoint to try to give team with but. This one those they still should've won the game. Yeah. Who they lose to them? I think so, but it's been forty. Two years. Yeah. Yeah. But I, but I remember that specifically, and I think also with hotter last year with Virginia, you know, they didn't even know he had broken opponents risks until they you know, he started will pain. It was in the Carolina game the AC speech tournament championship game. And then they just discovered it like they decide to check it out on Monday. And not by the way, it was Syracuse in seventy seven. Oh, okay. Okay. Golly. Yeah. It wasn't. It was ninety three eighty. I just looked at about thought it was Syracuse. So when I when you sent it, but I and Benard was eight of nineteen from the field with a broken thumb. So. Yeah. That would have been that was Faye. First team. I think it was you're absolutely right. Yeah. Yeah. And I bet you didn't see a lot of two threes on back. Then either, you know, Sears was led by the always ready. Larry kelly. Now, I tell you. Just think we lost Jimmy. But it was a good conversation. Nevertheless, Frank is in Kentucky and you're on the air. Hello, frank. Hey, how're you doing Paul town callers? Thank you. A little bit about the Kentucky in your calls on from what I've seen watching them this year. They can play solid spacing and good passing or thirty five minutes. And I know coaching Brickman and stuff it's hard not to do. But even in in the game being less five minutes of the game. When they gave up the lead you got one player or two playing together in the other three just run around on the court PJ. I think hurt his foot going up against three defenders if you're got three defenders on you got two people open, and I'm turned about their passing in the last few minutes of the really tight game in with the despair. SEM firmament I'm concerned about them making home if they don't continue that the school forty. I was wondering about yeah. I I'm somewhat Knicks on Kentucky because they I was talking to somebody the other day. And he he was concerned about Kentucky from this damn point. He said they have made a progression, tremendous aggression. I think Cal. One of his better jobs in terms of turning the the narrative around, but there are still deficiencies as you pointed out in the NCWA tournament, those deficiencies are usually magnified, and that's not concerned too. Because we're not in nice go anymore. You know, this is the big dam, and it's when you got to show up, and and you know, I do see to ADC in two SEC teams in the tunnel form fell. I think it's possible. But I'm not sure that we'll be in. You know, even though I'm a full blooded Kentucky wildcat. I'm not sure we'll be there. Well, they always this is. Who is your who's your other SEC team beside Tennessee? I'm scared that we won't make it past Auburn. Wherever. Be the number three. I agree. Auburn is a very dangerous team dangerous in terms of having a bad day and dangerous in terms of getting to the final four. It's it's I mean, these are the cliches that you get overwhelmed with this time of the year. But they are they are they are pretty dangerous. I agree. Yeah. Well, the only only solace has a the fourth time ever picked. To the winning teams in the playing games. That's all I know about this tournament because the I think that the tournament Mindy did a really good. Yeah. I did too everyone. Everyone's crippled about I mean Bill was on earlier. He didn't like the Louisville. Minnesota matchup. I really don't care much about that. Rick Pitino problems were self inflicted. They're not the problem of the committee. You know, even Michigan state all the criticism of that. I I don't think Mike shoshefsky says overjoyed about the idea of seeing Michigan state in that regional final. That's it for this show today, we are back live tomorrow as always taking your phone calls. Hope you have a great night. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three Easter.
Wednesday, July 22, 2020
"Tonight over thousand Cova deaths in a single day, the highest nationwide toll in weeks California now surpassing New York for most cases in the nation, three more states, mandating masks and the new message from Dr Chee NBC News goes inside one of the first schools to real win in America the new safety measures and what the CDC director said today what he sent his own grandchildren back. As we come on the air president trump holding another corona virus briefing after seeing the outbreak would probably get worse, and for the first time in the twenty twenty race Joe Biden, and Barack Obama together in person their new message. Massive two billion dollar vaccine beal how many doses they're aiming to deliver and when? The US. Ordering China's consulate eight Houston to shut down the allegations of spying and the images were consulate workers, earning documents, president trump and a surge of hundreds of federal agents to Chicago on the heels of a shootout at a funeral, our NBC News Investigation. What some wells Fargo customers were shot to find out and the tropical storm threat where it's headed the new track. This is NBC nightly news with Lester Holt. Getting Everyone California tonight with a dubious distinction now home to the most corona virus cases in the country, but the reality is records and benchmarks are falling almost daily across many parts of the country, including the single day death totals so many numbers, and sadly too easy to forget represent realized in dozens of states, the numbers are worsening and progresses hard to come by. We have expanded coverage this evening starting with. Miguel Almaguer. As hospitals in hotspots face crush wave of Kovic patients tonight. The Nation's death toll, hitting a staggering new high for July, more than thousand deaths reported in twenty four hours. These deaths are. Premature preventable deaths with forty states responding to an increase in infections tonight, California surpassing New York for the nation's most cases, though fewer were tested and the death toll is more than four times higher in new. York, the sobering milestone out west plagues a region that lead the country in stay at home orders, but is now being crippled by Covy here in Los Angeles amid. Amid long lines for testing officials are struggling to conduct contact tracing for those who test positive, perhaps fueling the spread of the virus. The news is also grim along the Arizona border in Santa. Cruz County Ajayi dropping fifty five percent of those tested yesterday have the virus. It's a very serious situation to slow the spread nationwide today retail giants home, depot and Kroger began requiring. Requiring masks inside all locations joining states like Ohio Minnesota Indiana and cities like Washington DC and Baltimore, which are also expanding their own policies tonight amid a crush of Cova cases and a warning, the virus will linger, I don't really see us eradicating it but I think we will bring it down to such a low level that we will not be in the position that. That, we're in right now. At Niagara Falls images of American tour boats tightly packed in Canadian vessels with plenty of room. An example of how to countries are addressing the virus new. York's Tristate area now, warning visitors from thirty one states. They must quarantine if they enter the region in Manhattan. Larry Kelly spent fifty one days on a ventilator finally cleared to go home today. To locker full. But. Not all families are so lucky. Kerry crosswhite lost his fight against covid night, surrounded by his wife and children there to say goodbye, so we were able to. Have, the opportunity to tell. How much we love tonight the lives behind the numbers as the death toll, and the heartbreak mounts Miguel Almaguer NBC News. Los Angeles as covert infection surge, the shape of the new school year remains uncertain and many districts tonight for students, parents and teachers. NBC's Blaine Alexander visited a district in Tennessee, but one of the first in the country to reopen. It's not the welcome back. These students are used to. Temperature checks of masterpieces and desks at a distance greeting students at Alcoa City schools, the two thousand student district in Tennessee among the first in the country to return to in-person learning with staggered attendance, so if I have a class of twenty kids, five will come every day. And so it will take the whole week before I see my whole class. Tennessee has seen more than eighty thousand cova cases fewer than three hundred active cases in the city of Alcoa, or did you have any concerns with coming back? Oh yeah, absolutely, that's why so many discussions and sleepless nights and conversations, and what if questions because we want to do? What's best for our students and for our children across the country with the first day fast approaching, many students and teachers are still in limbo about how and win school will start in Kansas. The State School Board rejected the governor's request to delay the start. Start of school until after Labor. Day Today CDC Director Robert Redfield says he believes schools are safe enough to send his own grandchildren. Eight of them are school age I'm a hundred percent that they can get back to school with many districts raising concerns about how to pay for the necessary changes today, the N. Double ACP filed a lawsuit against Education Secretary Betsy Devos, claiming a new rule would effectively divert some money from lower income schools to wealthy private schools to take money away from shirts and give to families who have the means to provide virtual or social busy education opportunities in their private school setting. Is unconscionable in a statement? The Department of Education Slams the lawsuit as political writing. This administration is committed to supporting all students. Get back to learning including students of color. Back in Tennessee. How do you feel about that mask? NARC that good, because it just makes me a heart. Stopping the spread is now lesson number one and we're teaching the kids. Skills they can use because this may not go away anytime soon. And these plans are in place until Labor Day when they re. To see what if anything needs to change lesser. Right Blaine Alexander. Tonight thank you. President trump held another briefing on the pandemic late today, telling people again to wear masks touting a deal regarding a possible vaccine candidate, and again pushing for schools to reopen are Kristen Welker is at the White House. Tonight, flooding zone and president trump appearing in the White House briefing room for the second day in a row, announcing a major agreement with the drug company Pfizer to get millions of doses of vaccines to the public wants. There is one today. My administration reached a historic agreement with Pfizer. To Produce and deliver one hundred million doses of the vaccine immediately following its approval. Hopefully the approval process will go very quickly and we think we have a winner there. And while the president has been pushing to reopen schools tonight, he was pressed. Is he comfortable with his son and grandchildren? Going into the classrooms, comfortable with that and we do have a national strategy, but as you know, ultimately, it's up to the governors of the states. President trump is locked in a fierce battle for reelection with Joe. Joe Biden leading in the polls Biden today sharply criticizing the president who has referred to Kovic as the China virus. We've have racist and they've existed that tried to get elected president. He's the first one that has tonight asked to respond. I've done more for black Americans than anybody with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln nobody is even been close. Thank you very much. Everybody. Meanwhile, Biden, deploying his biggest political weapon releasing A. Taped in person conversation with his former boss Barack Obama. Video also aims to draw contrast with president trump who said this in March when pressed on testing failures. You take responsibility for that. No, I don't take responsibility at all. Presence it's not my responsibility. Ted No response. Literally. Little wars then Colorado. While, we were in office. Though the president was asked again about taking responsibility over the weekend. Do you take responsibility for that Luke responsibility always for everything. Now as for the briefing here, the president said he spoke to Dr Faucher earlier today. Meanwhile Senate Republicans are discussing a possible short term extension to six hundred dollar unemployment benefits which expire at the end of the month. It's not clear the White House will support that though it comes as Republicans are signaling their close to reaching a broader agreement with the White House for a long-term relief package, but then they have to negotiate with Democrats Lester. All Right Kristen Welker thanks that vaccine agreement the president mentioned is a sign of growing hope, perhaps confidence that a safe and effective vaccine will be developed. Governments deal with Pfizer, worth almost two billion dollars for a potential vaccine. Even before it's approved, are Tom Costello has more details. It's the biggest deal yet. In the government's operation warp speed to rush vaccine to the homeland, a two billion dollar agreement with Pfizer and a smaller German Company for millions of vaccine doses that the government would then provide free of charge to the public. We can acquire one hundred million doses of this vaccine as early as December of twenty, twenty, five actually has four vaccine candidates. Early test results showed they produce antibodies that have the potential to neutralize covet so far none has received FDA approval, but critical phase. Three trials start within days. What assurances can you give the American public that two billion dollars is going to be money well spent. A. Hundred million doses would definitely proves to be great belly. Somebody given the enormous healthcare economic costs this. ARENAVIRUS PANDEMIC! Each person would need two doses and booster shot Scott. Balabagn is an immunologist who volunteered for the study. Just yesterday. He received his second dose at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, his side effects so far a few aches similar to a flu shot. I honestly feel lucky. I. First of all to be head of the game, so to speak to receive a vaccine that might work. this early after we. We learned about the disease. Vaccines are getting tested. Real time says Dr Anthony Fauci with seventy thousand new cases each day. That's bad news for public health. But that's certainly facilitates the development and the crew of the efficacy of Vaccine Pfizer isn't alone. The government has also signed a one point. Six billion dollar deal with vaccine maker Novak's and it's paid for drugmakers for are indeed tonight. It's looking more and more possible that Americans will get a vaccine shot early next year. Luster pretty amazing all right, Tom. Thank you this evening. The US accused Chinese hackers trying to steal American vaccine research, a major new escalation to tell you about for the first time the State Department order. We got Chinese consulate here to close over spying charges NBC's Andrea. Mitchell has late details. Flame seen in the courtyard of the Chinese consulate in Houston, overnight appearing to show documents burning after the State Department ordered the consulate to close by Friday only hours after the US accused to Chinese hackers working with China's government of trying to steal research on Kovic. Vaccines, treatment and testing from US companies and others around the world. Houston firefighters responded, but were not permitted in the State Department says the closure is intended to protect American. Intellectual Property and Americans private, information and Senate Intelligence Chief Marco. Rubio tweeted China's Houston Consulate is a massive spy center. Forcing to close is long overdue. We're going to take action to protect. The American people protect our security, our national security and also protect our economy and jobs. The administration dramatic action comes as president. Trump has slap tariffs on China for unfair trade practices and blames. Blames China for not alerting the world to the corona virus. It's a shame that it happened. It shouldn't have happened. China should have stopped causing Democrats who have also been warning about Chinese hacking to worry. The today's action is also an attempt to divert attention from the COVID crisis china-made mistakes. They've needed to be called out for them, but the president is trying to deflect attention from his mistakes in the United States that have led us to have. The is step Tolan the world. China's Foreign Ministry called the move an unprecedented escalation and promised to respond with firm countermeasures, raising fears of an escalating feud between the world's two largest economies. 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Over the weekend at least sixty three people were shot in Chicago. There were at least one hundred sixteen murders in just the last month, a nearly two hundred percent jump over the same period last year. President trump now says e, sending more federal law enforcement resources there, and to Albuquerque. And Kansas City the operation named after four year old shooting victim legend Tele Pharaoh. No mother should ever have to cradle her dead child in her arms. Simply because politicians refuse to do what is necessary. To secure their neighborhood and to secure their city, the administration says these extra agents will be different than the tactical teams recently sent the Portland to protect federal property. Overnight protestors barricaded the federal courthouse with wooden beams NBC's Erin McLaughlin is they're? They're setting up a steel barricade outside the federal courthouse inside the state's attorney. General is asking restraining order against a federal agents that are here from Atlanta to Detroit to Memphis. This summer's violence has been brutal in Kansas City. Were murders are up forty percent? The Police Department ask for some federal help tracking illegal guns. What we don't need is what you're seeing on the streets of Portland and federal troops. They're taking over court functions of law enforcement in American cities here in New York officers with riot shields. Today cleared out A. A protest encampment out in front of City Hall. The mayor called President Trump's threat to send in more federal agents. Unconstitutional Lester Gay Gutierrez thank you a new twist in the deadly ambush of the family of a New Jersey. Federal Judge, the FBI, says evidence links. A suspected gunman Roy den Hollander to the killing of another lawyer in California over a week, earlier investigators believed in Hollander kill the judge's son, and critically wounded her husband at their home on Sunday then Hollander was later found dead of an apparent self inflicted gunshot. And Tropical Storm Gonzalo has formed in the Central Atlantic. It's expected to become a hurricane by tomorrow. Parts of the Caribbean could see strong winds and heavy rain this weekend up next troubling new questions about one of the country's biggest banks. What some customers say they were shocked to find. Back now with our NBC News Investigation and the new outrage at Wells Fargo customers shocked to discover. The bank hasn't been crediting them for their mortgage payments during the pandemic Stephanie Osc now with the reason why. Tammie Wilson her husband David say they've always paid their wells Fargo Morgan on time, even during Covid, nineteen or managing our money, and so we're doing okay. Recently, they discovered their payments are not being counted tammy says Wells Fargo enrolled them in a government program that protects people who are financially hurt by cove it putting a hold on their mortgage, but they don't need the help I have the ability to pay I want to pay. You specifically said to US I. I don't need it anyhow. I don't want it. Yes, she's far from alone. Consumers in at least fourteen states have reported. Something similar has happened to them I was really angry I. As a guy didn't ask for this wells. Fargo called Schoolteacher Eileen Roth to tell her. The mortgage protection plan was ending, but she says she never wanted it. In the First Place Wilson and Roth contacted NBC News after we ran a story online about Troy Harlow, who has been working his way out of bankruptcy and now fears he won't make it because the mortgage payments he's been making aren't being credited. If it can happen to me, you can happen to anybody. Harlow is part of a lawsuit against Wells Fargo he and the others are concerned that being part of this Kubat relief program could affect their ability to borrow money or refinance. We're actively in the process of refinancing. Having that on there. Is. Detrimental for Wells Fargo the fourth largest bank in the country. This comes after a string of controversies. This is the same bank that five six years ago got hot, creating fake credit card accounts and big bank accounts. Scale the millions following several high level resignations, the bank paid out three billion dollars to the government in a settlement related to the fake accounts on this latest issue, the bank says in a statement we may have misinterpreted customers intentions in a small number of cases we are working directly with customers to ensure they are receiving the assistance they need. The bank adds. It has already remove customers from the program who have asked. The Wilson's are still looking first instance I feel, let down. I think that if they actually wanted to help me, they would be helping me. It's unclear how many people have been affected by this. If you have concerns about your own mortgage, request a copy of your full credit report Lester. Stephanie Guys, thank you up next. She's drawing her war effort from long ago and inspiring America. Finally, the all out effort to do her part in the covert battle by a woman who knows what it means to join the fight yours. Katie Beck. 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E65 - WARNE V WARREN ON HOW SENS TOP PROSPECTS ARE LOOKING, JIM SAVES THE LIFE OF A CFL LEGEND
"Steve one project. How goes in welcome to the project, presented by faces magazine. It's episodes, sixty five greatest NHL player to wear number sixty five. Yep. You guessed it. It's Andrew Sean number sixty five I'm not mentally ready to consider other options. We're podcast talking hockey, sports, and whatever I'm Steve Orlov, Jim Jerome two of us were TSN radio partners for a decade and our crease crashing the podcast world running the goalie and dealing with the consequence. I'm an Ottawa Jimmy's in Edmonton today on the show. It's an update on sense, development gab with post media's Ken Warren, no relation of than longtime media, pal. Roberto Longo calling it a career the NHL free agency tours are underway, should we take those seriously will basketball one day surpass hockey as the top sport in Canada? And we'll Mitch monarchy offer. She did or not well drought. Have Monory your next four first rounders all straight ahead. On the Steve Warren project, thanks to our partners faces magazine. Jim K Ford, all insurance on -tario, and our be computing. It's Jimmy in lovely downtown Edmonton. How're you? How are they shimmy? Well, I'm Steve I'm laughing at your number sixty five because anybody knows that the greatest player where number sixty five was Ron Buchanan with the Hamilton tiger cats. Back in the seventies. Yeah. I swear to God I think you can name more CFL players from the seventies, then you can of any player in sport here in nineteen twenty nineteen there's no doubt. There's no Bill Simon's Steve with the Toronto Argonauts now thirty three you don't know that you're guessing that really check it your stop the show right now. You can go. That's outrageous, if you know that that's, that's crazy. That's crazy. My dad handed me down his CFL cards, and for some reason, Bill Simon's, I didn't even know 'til you said, if it was Bill Simmons or Bill Simmons played for the art, a fullback and I had literally eleven doubles of him. I had so many of his card, and there was number thirty three and I hit it with Bill Simmons right on. I will see I will see your Bill Simon, Steve, and I'm going to raise you. I'm going to raise you Chuck ily loved him. Withdraw trial Argonauts. Go all day on this Steve. If you want. Wait Chuckie Lee was Hamilton, tiger cats. Chuck ily Steve, I think, played some time with the Argonauts, I think I think I can't can check you have to check that because I think Joe Zueger was probably the quarterback. And of course, was it one of every everyone's favourite named bullet cough. I think was maybe a Montreal guy. He's a longtime NFL guy, but he was part of that. Montreal. Alouette s- surge of NFL talent Nelson scall- brought in Guiseley David Overstreet over streets. There was also the quarterback Vince Ferragamo. Yup. Yup. And comes no middle linebacker for the Alawites all this NFL talent that he brought in because he had money to burn and part of those early Edmonton Oilers stays as well. I remember on all those names, and of course, who was the who is the big fair gamble came from the Rams to play Montreal. But I think just before him was big tall guy quarterback who was who was a was the long's long time quarterback in the Alouette s-, Joe Barnes, seventy not Joe bar before Joe Barnes before Joe bar. Don jonas. Nope. Nope. No. He would he would have been there when not Leon mcquaid. Of course. I got it. It's sunny. Wade sunny way. Exactly stevie. Exactly. You're on fire pal. Well, I grew up on it. I was a little kid and my dad, and that's all we did was watch CF L football. It's kind of interesting now that my dad is all NFL, all the time somewhere along the way he lost. The CFL lost. My dad who was as big from the time. He was a kid. He was as big fan as I know. And he brainwashed to schedule an rough riders fan and later become an auto a rough riders fan here in town. But somewhere along the way he doesn't even watch the CFO anymore. He is all NFL all the time. Big patriots fan. I'll tell you something Steve. I'll tell you something about these schedule and riot. A rough riders must speak of George read. Okay. Who was the great running back. George had a move. If you ever knew this George read how to move that after every time he got tackled. He got up the same way all the time. It would sort of roll over onto one knee. Okay. Roll over onto one knee, and then get up slowly all the time. No matter if he was hurt or not as whole idea was. So they would never know if I was hurt. Right. Never know that was his move. His other move was putting his head down and smashing into the other team's defensive line and injuring them. He was he was. I knew I knew Georgia beat he when I moved out here in the mid eighties and eighty five he was the sales manager for Molson down in Calgary for many years. Yeah. So I'll tell you a terrible story, a terrible story about George so the contact days are a big thing here in Benton. It's like the exhibition. Do they still do Ottawa, no? The last couple of weeks. August. Why? No, they don't do it anymore. No, I must be at least eight nine years and since the last one because they're talking about moving it away from lines. I remember. I remember that. Wait. K days is the same deal here. And so we are heavily involved, the berry address up, like Colonel Sanders, gotta wear the time for a couple of weeks and Avesta all this shit. Everyone does it. So when it was over, we went to our manager's house because he had a pool a rarity and Edmonton no-one has pools her to have a big a big party and we're all standing around the pool, and we're all in our suits, and the and the wives of there in the girlfriends and stuff, and there's sort of leaning, they're, they're standing up around the pool and drinking wine, and we're having fun report when we're getting we're getting smashed, and Georgia's still outside on the patio not coming very close to the pool. And I you can if you're any sort of half deck. Steve, you can tell when a guy doesn't swim Georgia's creeping out like a cat. You know, he's in the living room, and we're all standing, you know, we're, we're out in the pool girls are leaning against the edge the pool stand up drinking wine. We're having a hell of. And, and you can George sorta just creeps out, you know, a few feet, and it goes back in into the house and comes on a little closer. It's very clear Steve, very clear that this guy wants nothing to do with coming around water. Okay. Got a shirt and ties still on full full suits snappy dresser. Georgia's a really snappy that the Rolex watch go. And so he just know every every few minutes, he come out a little further Nora having go back inside. And then, eventually he, you know, he, he trusted it walked outside with the bottle of wine, and he leaned over the port couple of glasses of wine for the girls, and I was nice and my buddy comes up behind and pushes them into the pool. Steve. Oh, no. Shoves him into the pool, and what happened. I'm trying to think what happened. Oh, yeah. He started drowning. That's it. That's it. Okay. He's, you know the shallow end goes to the deep end and there's a slope. Okay. Well, that's where he falls into street shoes on and he's trying to get his footing. You know, he's drowning going up and down. He can't get his footing. Because he's on the on the slow party keeps slipping going under the water at. So in I go around I go into grab them and just like here, but they're just beating the shit on me. The head okay. Just hammering me in the fucking face and, and down I go, Stephen and get underneath by the waist and, and pull them over to the side. And we get him out of the pool. Okay. And he just he doesn't say anything. He was totally embarrassed. You know, totally embarrassed, and he just walked inside and we'd never saw him again. Never saw him again. And I was going, Larry, Larry good. What were you freaking thinki- Larry everyone else that, you know, as go I just having fun. You know that looks like a lot of fun. Look, Georgia's a lot of. Run there. Okay as you almost lost his life. So we said you're going to be debt. George is gonna kill you man. When the next time he sees you. So best left, unsaid, Larry, you maybe want to maybe wanna send an apology. I don't even know if you should talk to him person. But maybe drop a letter or something to well, the guys that, okay yeah, yeah, I lost my mind there. So we had a luncheon later on up in Edmonton, few weeks later, Georgia's there and Larry goes, he gets up and says, hey, George has a bucket that says, George George read fund for swimming lessons in front of everyone. No. Yeah. Yeah. Just like dude, will you stop? That's leaving eight Lyon. Oh man. It was just incredible. But. Keep to this poke the bear, you know, anyway shortages, a great guy. George Josiah's a great guy. He's still he's still around. Probably getting close to eighty maybe I don't know if he said, oh, I didn't realize he was still with us. Well. Georgia's alive. Yup. I think he lives in Regina. He's back living there. So anyway, that's gone, some CFL story Steve. That's incredible. Wow. So the time the gym saved a CFL hall of famers life love that. Yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that. All right. Let's change gears a little bit. When we come back talk a little bit of the sends development camp. With post media's Ken Warren, a tired of feeling like you and your insurance company on different teams. Switch to all insurance on -tario. Get personalized one to one service from a dedicated broker. You can text her call at any time. Real people. Solid advice. Great rates. Visit all ins dot Sierra taxed six one three eight six oh six zero zero eight. Jim K Ford is taken the hassle of buying a new vehicle, presenting the new at home test drive, whether you're at home or at work. They bring that test drive right to you. A highly recommend the new twenty nineteen Ford ranger back after an eight-year absence book your at home. Test drive today at Jim k four dot com. You vill drive in Orleans, and faces magazine is titled sponsor faces tells Ottawa's best stories in the world of sports and entertainment, health and fitness, fashion, and stuff. Style coming up in the next issue. It sends head coach DJ Smith. Checkout faces MAG dot CA now, an interesting week for the Ottawa Senators they hold development cap as we record this podcast. So I thought we might check up on how some of the prospects of doing with post media's Kenny, Warren. How you doing Kenny? I'm doing great great summers here except for hockey exactly. I wanna talk a little bit about the sense development can't because. Well, there's not really a lot else for sends fans to kinda hang their hat on. Yes. The average sends fan with they're excited about with the Ottawa Senators, the kids, and well, this is a week for the kids for sure. Let's begin with the player that you have found to be the most impactful, the player that is impressed you most at development Cam. I like I guess Eric brannstrom on defense when we heard about a lot about him because of the stone trade. And I think just in that kind of environment. He really stand out. I mean you can get into a training camp and you're going to get into. The exhibition games. And you see, we handles as, as the talent level picks up. But in this kind of level with his peers here, he really does stand out and way can move the puck on the way he can join the rush. She's he's, he's a player and he's going to be something for senators to watch up front. I think Drake bathroom is a guy that his almost there as, as an NHL player, he certainly had an outstanding year with the Belleville, and I think he's, he's going to get I in my mind. I think he's going to be one of the guys gets shot right off the next year. Let's talk about brannstrom a little more. I think the knock on him would probably end up being not a particularly big guy, and that's actually to me, a bit of a concern, the left side of that defense is all movers. None of them really physically got Shibat you've got will. And now you're gonna add brannstrom to the mix, and maybe even you know, in the next couple of years Thompson, not particularly physical, guys. Do you think there's enough beef on that blue line? Eventually they probably going to have to dress that, and I, I don't know, maybe not left side. I mean maybe if Christianne becomes that, that multi-purpose guy that you want. Right. Than than he can handle some of it. I mean down the road, Mark yet skis and going to be here. We're gonna probably appreciate his talents and what he brought. But I mean I don't think he's a long-term solution here. And I think at some point you are going to have to address that the the game changing we all know that faster game. But at some point, I think you need the shutdown guy, the guy that they tried to make Cody CC into, and Cody CC, probably just, you know, we'll see what happens with Cody CC here, but they don't have a shutdown guy per se. I think that could play in the top four right now let's talk a little bit about Logan Brown. He's now in his fourth development camp. Are you seeing signs that maybe a breakthrough his finally imminent? Or are you worried? This is maybe going to be a pick where they look back and say, maybe that wasn't the right pick. I still think he's going to be a natural player. I think he's gonna. Be at okay player thing with him as he probably has to play in the first two lines, right at to be a star. If you watch him in a power plant, I've seen a little bit of him down in Belleville what he can do in power play. And I, you know, you know, we likes comparisons if you watch him in power play think Jason Spencer because he's got the reach. He's got this is he's got the poise with the puck and he can slow the game down a little bit with that extra space. And I think he really is a dominant player in the power play. Now whether the pace of the game, it's always been the knock right about his his skating and is defensive awareness. And that's, that's what he's going to have to prove here. I think depending on right now you go into it, and you got call in weight, and you got junk, Abby patio and you got Chris Tierney, and then you've got what it's very thin down the middle. And again, there's another guy that probably have an opportunity. I would think at some point the senators are going to go and try to sign a veteran center to maybe fill the gap in their fill the void. But I think Logan, Brown is a guy that's gonna get every opportunity to try. To show he can play I sends camp for a guy like Josh Norris. What are your early impressions of him a guy that came over in the air Carlson trade? Yeah. Very, very poised in the drills and the problem right now is hard to see as he doesn't still got some repercussions. The shoulder surgery, so is not not playing interest quad game in this criminals skill wise, and skating wise. I mean he looks like one of the best guys out there. So we're gonna have to wait to training camp to see when rookie camp probably than training camp and see how he stacks up, but it's too bad because he's not, you know, I understand the senators in this position they're not going to force the guy in because if they're not one hundred percent sure that, that there's gonna be no re- professions of the shoulder. But very polish guy, these guys, a lot of these guys talk to them. They are polished guys. I mean that it eighteen nineteen years old, these guys talk like they're thirty you know, they I mean, part of it is these guys have been in hockey since there. Six is levels, and this is part of the game to the understand what it's all about and understand how to deal with the media and very polished very confident, but not not a cocky guy, but I think he, he is going to be in the equation, not necessarily this year. But I think in the next year to and that Carlson trade down the road, we, we might see a little bit differently in three or four years. If some of these guys Pano can warn joining us from post media talking about the sends and development camp in gold. There's a new face, and it's a big one. He's a big lad. It's been Bishop almost not quite as tall, but it's six foot seven meds. Sogard has he looked in the early going look good. I mean these guys I mean he's, he's being Foley's. You know, some reports that six eight they say one ninety. So you think six eight one ninety he's got to put some a little bit of beef on, I guess, you know put too much fun on a goal. But. He knows that, you know, he's gonna get a little stronger before. He's ready. Whether that's in two years, or three years, or five years. Even and I think a lot of people surprising, they picked, another goalie, given their you know, the way the organization is going. And I, I in my mind, I'm just thinking, you know, maybe with goaltending and it's such a funny thing to figure maybe throw if you throw ten darts at the wall, you know, you hope that one or two stick, and then and then you're, you're looking good down the road. So it's such a long term thing with goalies so far. He looks good. But you'd also there's another guy people kind of forgetting, here's Kevin Mandalay's who had a really good year last year in Cape Breton and his year further ahead of Sogard in terms of the draft. So I think maybe you know, he's got another year junior, I think start talking about him, and there's Gustafsen Anders Berg, so it's layered, right? In terms of, you know, once seem Craig Anderson, has gone here, either some point this year late in the year, maybe a trade deadline pickup, and then Hobart moves. Up notch. And then these guys move up and so to get back to your rigid question with Sogard. I think he's look good. But I mean they're not looking at him tomorrow to be their goalie. It's, it's maybe three or four years down. The road is the new head coach new sheriff in town in DJ Smith and obviously development camp isn't where he's necessarily going to put his Mark on the team. But I wonder have you seen anything different than you saw in recent development camps, undergill Bouch, as at a different tone to things and moving forty you expecting a different tone DJ Smith with his club with him development camp. I think is not really his, his baby. Right. He's sitting there watching these watch saying. Okay. I mean, look at all form to Drake baths. I'm looking at Logan Brown guys that, you know, brands from guys that might be able to step right in and getting a first impression of who they are. But I think he's observing as much as anybody else's at this point, and the development, guys, are, you know, that are familiar with the players, there's a lot of homework all the nutrition stuff. And, and they know the projects if a guy came in last year out of shape. Or not doing what they told them to do that. This is catch up time. Right. So it's almost a lot of the strength and conditioning, guys from what I understand, from DJ Smith is I think it's a blank page for a lot of guys because his new coach coming in, and I don't think if with Bush, a at times, guys cut corners, a little bit, especially veteran guys I don't think that's going to happen when he comes in if if the senators finish thirtieth or thirty first next year is anybody can be shocked or surprised. And I think it's about establishing in the young guys. This is the way we have to play eventually to get to the top. And I think he's going to really hard on young players. And, you know, maybe that pays off in two or three years down the road, any sense if who you think DJ Smith, eventually chooses for captain of this team I guess it probably comes down for most two guys that Chabad orca Chuck. Yeah. And I think from talking around the room in they may go again next this year with Gan without a gap. And I think that's probably, you know, ad remote BAAs are not even remote possible. Distinct possibility. I think the way it went last year and you talk around the room. It is cooks spot in waiting Chamot's great player. And he, you know, may eventually in a or something, but I think if in a perfect world if you know, takes it to another level from what he did last year in terms of, you know, there's no, Mark stolen there to insulate them anymore. There's, there's no mad Shane and you saw at the end last year that on the ice. Maybe chokes was even even more forceful. In terms of. Hey, I'm a go to guy on the ice off the Icees like no other nineteen year old you'd ever seen before. In terms of confident he was, I think if he grows another year like that I, I think, in next season, so twenty twenty one I could see him as the gap twenty twenty one is that magical year, right? The, the club last time last year, but this time said that they're gonna have unparalleled success in twenty twenty one and spend. To the cap. And we both as we speak, we're have chuckling our voice, because I think there's a, a lack of belief that, that will actually occur just based on what happened in the last year, they said goodbye trading away five really key guys on this club. Are you getting any kind of vibe in the early going of? I don't know what change in, in, in the weather, a little bit change in that they're really going to do what they said they're going to do that. They're going to spend the cap because that's the concern. Everybody has everybody wants to be excited when development camp rolls around with all these kids. But the everybody has that sense of disbelief that I don't really think you're going to keep these guys around when they hit you FA in the immediate. It's good spending to the floor because that's going to be a challenge guys right now just to get there. And, but I actually understand that mentality if you're going to go, you know, if you're gonna go with kids right now maybe you're gonna have to bring in a couple of veterans to overpay them even to to get to the floor. And, and if you can get some assets back. I will believe this. I will believe this that they're doing what they say. They went Tom Chabad could sign totally agree. And Thomas dot got to do at this summer. Because if you get if you get into September October next year, then what are we talking about all around the league, we're talking about offer sheets who would be more prime target for an offer sheet next next summer than, than Thomas Chabad? So I think if they get Thomas Chabad done, and, you know, I mean, we throw the numbers out seven million, eight million, whatever is, maybe more as a as a player long-term deal, if they make that contract, then I think you say, okay, maybe they, they can be kept to their word because then they're going to be going through it again. The following somewhere with presumably with Chuck, right? And then we're gonna lock up our core guys and we're going to build around these guys. And I think people might say, okay, maybe these guys know what they're doing, and we can trust them. It will last one Kenny this week. We learned that Daniel offer would not be going into the hall of fame to the third time, the hall he was eligible for the third time he was passed over was there, any surprise with that decision. I'm mildly surprised that Alfredsson didn't get in. But what more surprising me more is. There's a lot of contemporaries of of Franson. You can throw the names. Mogilny Brindamour is on the on these guys. I you have a really good debate, right? I mean auto I'm sure the debate leans towards Alfredsson because of, you know, people familiar with what he did and taking team was nowhere as captain and and carried them into one of the best teams in the league for so many years, and what he meant as a captain here. But in other markets other players have had that kind of impact to so that, that part of it with Alfredsson. Yeah, mild surprise it wasn't him. But what I'm more surprised at at hardly. A odor an island with is opinion is. Where did he Carboneau come from and the Vaclav data Nancy? Well, that's that is a different sort of era and different thing. And it's very political, right? Because it's it has to do with international players, breaking boundaries and coming through. And that's to me is almost like a different argument, right there, great players, but they're probably being rewarded for, you know, the, the hurdles nuclear great just to get to the NHL, but the Carboneau one in your warding checking type of player, a great player, everybody loves decarbonising, but it seems to a can of worms here because you've you're, you're going on different avenue. What kind of player you're looking at to go in and I think they're going to have a problem down the road. Because now all of the carbon type players wising he wasn't in and, and the other angle is with Elfi radio scored gig Carboneau two to one. But at the same time, let's not dismiss what a great defensive offie was right. We talk about Merck stone, you know, and, and the Selke year after year Daniel Alfredsson soccer, even sacrificed a lot. Offense because he would step back and play in defensive positions at times when the needed, you know, he played like Fisher said, Jason sped at times. And I just think of that run. You know, he had a lot of great years here. But I think the run where they just missed against Anaheim. He would've won the consummate that year oughta one he was their best player in the playoffs. And maybe you know, we're talking about what would a tip the balance a Stanley Cup, winning the might probably would have been one of those things put over the top. But I, I don't know if it's necessarily animosity against Alfredsson as opposed to trying to figure out where where the hall of fame committee is is thinking in terms of what they're rewarding. And what they wanna reward because is it? If you're going to go down the road of rewarding so-called, checkers boys. It's going to get really difficult in the future. When when you're trying to decide between them Drome again Lemaire in Hosa Claude Lemieux like the. Getting really interesting type discussions. And I'm not sure they wanted to go there, but it's intriguing and I've never I don't think have you near experienced seen any kind of after the announces sure some people grumble and all this guy shouldn't have got in this guy should have gone. I don't remember ever being as much controversy over over an appointment as this one. The real controversy is your neighbor starting up his lawn more in the middle of our interview. So we're going to take care of that right now. Kenny, wonderful backyard here, by the way, it's a real Shangri LA back. Your hope you enjoy your summer invite everyone here. Excellent sounds great. Thanks thanksgiving cares. Thanks to post media's Ken warns talk a little sends with us. 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It features Montreal. Actor jay. Berra shell and an off season. Chat with Thomas dot checkout faces MAG dot CA messiah Jerry held his season ending press conference the other day and talked, of course about being fourth as the executive of the year in the NBA fourth. Are you kidding me? Not maybe the whole thing with a the cop on the side. Online at something to do with. I don't know. But I guess they vote for that thing before the playoffs even start so that, that would certainly bear into things. Figured name, it now you would say yet messiah Jerry's your guy, but he was asked pretty early on in the news conference, Jimmy about whether or not he thinks that basketball will one day surpass hockey as the top sport in Canada. And he said he thinks it will one day. What do you think of that? That's the right answer. You know, if you're if you're any sort of any sort of guy at any level of any sport, if they ask you about your sport, and it's close, it's close. I think that was the right answer. Whether he believes it or not. You know. But you gotta believe right? You got to believe the guys all about that, of course, is all about that, you know, like even his stage speech at the parade, and that sort of stuff, you know, he constantly all the time went to no one believed that this could ever happen. No one ever believed, you know that we would do anything. NBA nobly. But now we're NBA champions in Canada. You know, he's, he's a great guy. He's a great interview. I don't know. I've never met him but. I think and by the way, Steve, I he may be right. You know, he may be right. Yeah. See think that well time will tell you know, it's sports sports fans are most of them are fickle. You know there's there's the you know you're in the twenty percent Steve of or thirty percent of no matter what happens to my team. I'm there. I'm there, and there's even sense fans right? Who get pissed at even the stuff I was in about center. They got nothing going on the got nothing going on. They got thirty million. They should be spending their not do whatever whether to get to it or not. Who knows? But that's my opinion of, of the sense right now when I hear other teams. Signing superstars and getting a bunch done. So I get a lot. I get some pushback from some fans of the sensing, you know, come on, man know you gotta believe, but so there will there will always be those raptor fans but there the wrestler fickle the rest of them are fickle. If if you don't keep winning. I'm not I'm not inning trying to make that rhyme. Sti you don't keep winning. I'm not inning. What do you think I honestly think that it could? I think we're in a situation where we've seen this massive growth in Toronto with from a participation standpoint, like just real athletes of excellence coming out of the Toronto basketball scene to be NBA stars. So from a participation standpoint, the sport is growing and from a spectator standpoint, obviously the raptors and what they've done over the last three months in particular has has changed the landscape somewhat. I'm obviously fairly recently removed from terrestrial radio and sports talk radio and the high priced consultants and things and the discussion is always about. NBA. Like my demographic demographic were around the same age hockey is king. But for those who are under thirty years of age to totally different dynamic, when it comes to interest level in basketball, I was talking to one of our, our good sponsors the other day. These like a love the show, love and the show. Listen to every show, not so big on when you talk about asking ball, but love in the show, then if you know I talked to my daughter's boyfriend and, you know, he's more down with the basketball. So, I think basketball has a real opportunity because you're so up up up close to it. And I mean that from a spectator standpoint, you're really close to the action, you can hear everything that's going on. And you can see the facial expressions and everything. I think there's such a connection between fan and player that I think it really has a chance to potentially we're years away from this, but it could potentially become a more popular sport in this country than the sport hockey. Think think Stephen, we did do the radio show from I was from nineteen ninety nine till till two thousand twelve Zo over those thirteen years. You, you were there for almost all of that I only worked half a year before you came along. We'd never talk basketball. Never. Right. In fact. In fact, we sort of laugh if I said, we someone would call about the NBA member the emails. Are you guys ever gonna talk about basketball ever? Give it any of your show. You remember those of course. Yeah but we get those from NASCAR fans to. Right. Right. But now it's not the case, so winning winning breeds interest. You know that you have these shows now are everyone's been talking about the NBA for for a long time. Now, you know, whether the whether the GM from Toronto placed fourth, obviously, it is done before the plan. But even that even that how well Toronto did. But maybe up there in the top two or something. But I don't follow basketball enough to know what of teams had great success before the playoffs. Could I think it hasn't chance to maybe one day, overtake hockey do, I think it will? I don't know. I think unless things really balance out, like I can't see the NBA going to Winnipeg for example. And so, in terms of the Canadian sports, fans interest just the fact he of seven markets right now, that have NHL hockey, I think that will continue to win the day, unless you start seeing the NBA expand to various locations in Canada. I still like the NHL on a long-term sense, but that could change if you know Vancouver gets team, Montreal gets a team. And so, so I get the sense Steve when he was asked that question that he was talking about the raptors compared to the Leafs and not and not so much. The rest of the country. 'cause I, I don't I don't. I'm not sure where that will end up. You gotta ask yourself. When you say we'll basketball takeover from hockey. Well, what do you mean by that? How will it take over? But he mean viewing audience. You know attendance. I, I don't know. I don't know what they mean by that who's going to how are you going to take over into different sports? Certainly the top story in Toronto right now beyond the raptors n what's going to happen with Kawhi Leonard is what's going to happen with Mitch martyr. I'd say Toronto sports fans are holding their breath in both cases I think, more for kuwa- Leonard than Mitch martyr because I think Toronto would continue to be good on the ice. If Mitch Marna goes elsewhere, I feel like boy, the raptors would take a massive step back if Kawhi Leonard ended up in another market. What do you think? Giving. What, what's the deal that if you were going to get this guy, you gotta give four first rounders is that well Mitch martyrs restricted free agent right now? And so he's not going anywhere until either the leaf sign him while he stayed in, but he could also be offer sheet. So as an RFA a restricted free agent another team could come in sign him. It would be to a massive number. So because it's a massive number that team that signed him would have to give Toronto four first rounders and Toronto, even before that occurred would have the right to match any offer. That's out there. And so, yeah, that's the bottom line. That's not so staggering anymore that, you know, I don't take ten first rounders shit. You know where. Assuming I don't I don't give shit. So you got MICH, martyr coming to your team. You gotta believe that he's going to improve your team, and that you're not gonna place you know that you're gonna make the playoffs every year. So that just that doesn't put you into the first round very well. Anyway, you know, unless you're last, right? Do they still do that, when they do the lottery pick if I don't I don't know? Exactly, how does it work? Now, if your best chance your chance of getting first overall like eighteen point five percent of your dead last overall. Yeah. So it's not it's not that good deal. It used to be right now, if you're dead last before he used to get the first pick didn't you of course in the draft. Yes. So and first round is don't always work out. The draft is lucky. You know how these guys are gonna you just don't know. That's what I was talking to win the other day. And that's how, how do you feel about the draft how to go for the cause I don't have to wait and see. We'll have to wait and see. So that, that doesn't that doesn't bother me that much. You know, I think there's a perception to your point among hockey fans when it's like you have to give it four first grounders four first rounders. No. How dare you? There's this perception, they're all going to be Connor mcdavid. The reality is any team that gets Mitch. Martyr is automatically going to be a better hockey club with martyr. So their draft pick is not going to be that great in the first round, they might be, you know, four first rounders, we're not giving up four first overall first rounder, we're giving up like maybe four for guys in the bottom ten of the first round, and those are crap shoots fifty fifty at best. And right now it sounds like the islanders are really prepared to do something that Lula Morello, who is like the jilted lover, who. Was the Leafs general manager replaced by cow dubus? So he becomes a consultant, and then ends up leaving which would tell you that he wasn't very happy about being asked to step aside becomes the islanders GM and hell hath, no fury. Like a GM scorned that he might role in give martyr, an offer sheet just to be a pain in the ass to his old team and say, here's thirteen million kid over the next five years and force the Leafs to match that. Yeah. I mean if you look back Stevie I don't wanna throw into the bus here, but I got a little bit the last ten first rounders the last twelve first rounders over the overall union. Yeah. I overall. Comic. David was an anomaly, I think how of the other ones done. Are they are they topping the league still you'd have to look that up where where they are? Well Austin Matthews comes immediately to mind. He's good. He was good. He was first overall isn't any guarantee of anything, either, like the sense, for example in their history of had three three times first overall draft pick. But none of them turned out to be what you'd call hall of famers superstars. Yeah. There you go. So, so don't worry about it. Don't worry about the four first rounders. Whatever you're going to do to get this guy, you know. That's my opinion of Chris Phillips, occasionally listens to the show. I've got to take that last statement back Chris Phillips superstar big rig brewery out tensely could send beer over. I'm just saying, you know, we Al fee in the hall of fame. No, Chris Phillips, in the hall of fame. We're just we're just we're just playing the naysayer there Chris when we did that take. Okay. We're just doing the other side, you know we got we got. We got to be full well rounded here about time now for our Rb computing web poll and it's easy, which three cents prospects. That'll be a death camp this week as we record this will go on to have the most impactful NHL careers. I sent along the sense development camp roster and got quite a bit of feedback big wreck will go with Norris Bathurst and brannstrom snow big stretch, but could Chuck Norris are going to play like a couple of old chums on an outdoor rink LT, like big Rick also one of our good members. So he saying for the sense or another team. Save choices for me ago, go for brannstrom bothersome and formenting matrix. Always tongue in cheek go Bathurst. And after he's traded to the Rangers to save money Guston as free agent to Chicago and Bernard Docker with Pittsburgh after they sends don't give him in our FA contract to save money there as well. We got Matt Larose Bathurst brannstrom, Bernard Docker and says, a lot of Bathurst and brannstrom coming up and then kind of varies from there. So thanks to everybody who got there. Not in at TSN Steve on Twitter is where we do our Rb computing web poll on a regular basis. And again, today's Whipple is brought to you by Rb computing providing excellent computer services in Ottawa for over twenty years, what you may not know, though, is they also provide onsite managed services for small and mid size business through the sister company, demand, I t s keep your business, running, and stay proactive with the right technology. Support get free on site consultation today at demand dash IT s dot com. The NHL free agency tours are underway. This is basically players who are unrestricted free agents in the NHL getting wined and dined by various NHL teams across the land, and is this all bullshit is the question. Why said the S word how dare me. Are these legitimate are most of these tours just players trying to get the upper hand in the talks with the team? They actually want to play for and is out there wasting most of the team's time, I think, so Steve, I think so, you know, it's the big bad world of sports is always based on performance. Always always based on performance. Although there's, you know, you brought up Chris Phillips name earlier and you heard a lot about this guy or Elfi that you're a lot about this guy that away from the ice. They did a million things for the community. Does all these things in the dressing with the guys and hard work and practice kept his kids here, moved to town, all that sort of stuff. Okay. That doesn't equate to dole though Steve, that doesn't quite to, to money you know, no one's ever said. Well, he's we're gonna give him four million. But so good where, you know, we're going to renegotiate give nine point two. Not going to happen. So I think it means shit. I think shit, I don't think owners are gonna fall for that. I think they do. You think so? Yeah. I think if you know, MAC, Shane, for example, is going to the Montreal Canadians to be wined and dined, and see everybody and the facility and all that. And what's going on in Montreal? I don't think he's gonna play for Montreal. Maybe we'll let I think so. And but he this is one of several stops he's making talking, and I feel like most of it is just window-dressing. And I think agents believe that, you know, that this does up the ante that in the auction for this guy if all of a sudden, I think it's bird in the hand, I got to Shane coming, you know, maybe it's Columbus e stays of Columbus resigns there. And that was certainly good for the sends 'cause they get another first round draft pick out of that, if he resigned with Columbus. But let's say it is the blue jackets, they, they're good shape to get Shane. Oh, look he's he's over there dating. Some other girl, I'm gonna have to up my game to get him. More impressed by me. Well. These guys have played around the league before and they're going to go. Visit a city to check it out. You know what, what, you know what, what are you doing there to go and see and go, oh my God. I'm glad I came here. They actually have streets with cars on there and stuff. So I think I can get along. You know, they've got they've got restaurants, Oma. Thank god. I'm glad I came for that. Visit come on, buddy. You're meeting the coach face to face. You might be meeting. Some of the players, the leadership group of that team might sometimes be asked to sit down with this potential UFA signing. I think I mean obviously, I think you're going there and not really getting a massive piffling of what that it's all about. You're just creating the illusion that you're falling in love with someone else. And so the team that you're with or the, the team, the think's going to get you might say, oh, he's going over there, and they might Jack up their price. Price. I can't see Lula Morello saying, hey, listen. The guy the guy was here for the weekend, you know. We'd better better sign him. He's really cool. He showed up. That does nothing for me. I don't I don't look. I don't see anything into that at all. But so your theory is, they are genuinely when they go to all the cities, they're genuinely interested in potentially signing with that team. They're generally interested in making money. You know that's what I do it. Larry Kelly who I know and. In not so great move. I had an agent when I was in radio and it was Larry Kelly. Okay, played hockey Larry Kelley bit last winter. Yeah. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. I went in there. You know, the ratings were good, and I went, and I said, we get an agent, you know, going to get an agent because the first time negotiated a deal in radio. I just tell I left a bunch of on the table. I went for lunch with the GM, and he said, okay. What, what's the deal, you know, I said, okay? Here me out. And my brother-in-law's HR. See what should I do? It goes just shut your mouth. Don't say anything, let them talk. Like this is some big high level deal. Right. And he said, what's up and I said, don't talk. They'll give him the wider. You tell me what's up? Right. And I said, he says, what's up, okay? Let's hear me out. Okay. Here's the volatile that, so I need this much money. Okay. I need this much money. He said, no problem. Leaned over shook and off. I went and I said, how much money, did I leave on the table? There know. Dear, so anyway, down the road, I Larry Kelly acted for me. And in, in one of my contracts that go, I I wouldn't fly in their Stevie. Okay. Like I was like I was rigging. Wayne Gretzky, you know, trying to negotiate a deal and fold. Larry, I listen, Larry, here's what I'd like to do. He said, this'll be good. Okay. You tell me what we should do gym, and I said, look here in there, even get a car and a and a golf club membership. All that. And then we got disconnected in on the phone, and I phoned back. Sorry. Something happened ever got disconnected. No, he didn't know deny hung up. I hung up the phone anyway. His his point was. You know, I'm not here, Jim. I'm not my job Jim as as an agent. Okay. My soul job. My number one job is to get you the most money, you can get. Okay. That's it. That's it. I'll get you the dull you go. Do whatever you want with your money, go, get a car, golf member. Do whatever you want, you know, and so these these agents saying, well, maybe you should go to the city or, or call them, of course, you're going to do that. You know, you're going to speak to them and say you're interested. Looks like a great town bub-bubba, blah. But, but the ages jobs that are Steve don't kid yourself is I'm going to get you as much money as I can period. That's not looking after putting in in therapy. I'm not babysitting. You, you know, I'm not here to give you lectures about if your party too much and all that ship. Okay. I'm here to get you so. Right. Man. I'd, I'd be, you know, maybe Alaska Kelly that. Next time I see him because I think these world wind free agency tours. These players go on. I think that because they do it, they end up with more money at the end of the day by doing them as opposed to just dealing with the team, you're interested in and playing hardball there. The more by going out and pretending to be interested in somebody else. Yeah. Now, now all that being said, I wanna make Larry out to be because ages have tough enough time, keeping their, their image. Larry's a wonderful guy. And when I did talk to him in those in those days, he was concerned about my future. You know. He said, so what are you gonna do long-term here, buddy? Let's you know this that the other thing. So he's got a heart. You know, for sure. But, but in the end, you know, why do guys get an agent Steve? What do they get an agent in the first place? It's to negotiate the deal. The money you know, it's not it's not need a father figure in my life, you know, maybe. It's none of that shit, you know. So anyway. And the reason I feel this way because basically it played it that way for me. When I went to almost work with you and Edmonton right in my heart hearts, I wanted to stay an auto. But I went out there and heard what you guys had to say for the job out there and is like, okay. That sounds fantastic. And then come back off and said, this would they're offering Edmonton and they go oh, well, all right. Then we'll pay that, too. And that was that because I was all set up your family and friends are here. And that's why ended up staying and not going out to Edmonton. I could I got you that job? If you wanted it, okay, I put my ASO. I said, here's our guy, then you totally disappointed. So I was game to go. It was just a case of. Okay. What do you guys have offer? And if I came back to auto and they said. Happy trails, Jimmy. Sure. But you know what? Because Albert is so set up for autism Jesus. I know you told me that sure is I hear all the time there's stuff going on here for autism. So anyways too late. Now it's too late now. Well you only lasted another year there. Anyway. Did. That's turf. So it worked out great for me. Yeah. Well, anyway, although we could have ganged up on that guy that you didn't like very much. Yeah. That guys speaking of nightmare, Steve. He's in there all the time, you know, that did I ever tell that story. I couldn't work with this guy hated me. I was I was shivering every time out to go into work, and it was so bad. This guy was just a freak you know, he spit in the face of a thirty he dismissed everything I said radio. I mean, you know, when you work in radio or you do show, you got a volley back and forth here. You know, you can't you can't. If you brought up a story, I don't know. I don't know anything about that. Well, at least the guy hanging is gone. And this guy did this all the time that was one of the things he did. He have the crazy is he was so. But he was very funny. But he was so off-side so crazy that we had to meet separately, the morning show. There were three of us on it. And this guy had to have as I said, this, this is not Smatt. This guys has got the program director freaking anyway, I went into the program one day and I said he'd come into meeting Steve, the PD would say, okay, we need to talk about this you go. I don't think so. That's ask them any walk out of the meeting and the peach, you never knew what to do. Anyway. I said, I'm going to go talk to them. And the program director said me, I wouldn't do that. And I said, I can tell I could tell in these meetings, he had with this guy that the guy was very vocal that he hated me. I said, I can I can smooth anything over saying, I'm just telling you don't go don't go up to his house and talk. And I said, no, I'm going up there. So anyway, I went up there. Right. And you let me in. And I was trying to charm them sitting on the table to make a long story. Short s- look at look at buddy, we can't you can't be dismissing the shit all that. And we got nothing. If you keep doing the next thing, Steve, I look up, and he is coming across the dining room table. He stepped up onto a chair jumped and flew across the dining room table like a fucking lemur, and started to choke me out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tact me attack me, that'd be down on the floor, and it was choking me is shot up. I don't know. I don't know what you did to someone to get a job in radio. But you're the worst piece of. And I was like crying, you know, get my car and just shaking, and I phone the PD in the answers goes a long ago. It's me. He goes you went up there. Did you? I told you to go. Ticking time bomb. This guy is that's. Ticking time bomb ticking time bomb. Yup. The stuff you said anything there was that offensive through that process? But you know what it is? And you see these guys in society all the time, where they're completely insecure. They see somebody come in your case he recognizes the talent. And he's cutting my grass and I've got a defend my turf, and he was totally threatened from you buy you from day one. Yup. First time first time I got invited into to jump on the radio was in oughta with Al Davis, and he was at a dinner, and I was, I was roasted Brian kill rate and then Davis said, we want to jump on the radio. Now got back up a bit Tom. Donnelly, my, my buddy was, was instrumental in Saint can get this radio. And when he's come on in tomorrow, and you're going to sit in with I forget the guy's name, actually who was at Ottawa sports radio. The morning host. And this guy wasn't sure what was up I could tell exactly what you're saying. And I went in the guy said, okay, this is Jim Giral. And he said, Jimmy, what, what, what would you like to talk about? So as a joke, as a joke, I said, what are your favorite sports? And, and I said, well, there's I got my top three for sure curling rodeo and squash. You know and. As the sideways, you know, he went sideways and in a good way or bad way. Well, he just he just didn't. You know he didn't he didn't laugh. There's obvious points. You know that are. No. I, I tend to think I know what kind of funny or what isn't there? What should be? And he just totally dismissed. And I said, I don't want to do this. This is absolutely no fun. I gotta give credit to JR. So I went back in the next day with JR and, and he was fantastic. You know, he, he got that I was new Tirol and radio did know anything about it, and he was like, we got this guy knows. And I was perked up. You know. So it makes a huge difference, exent huge different. So yes, it's bit of tight rope right here. Just if you have the wrong guy that you're working with, or even if you just, you know out for beers with another person, you just you hit it off. Or you don't hit it off the person's willing to listen or they're not willing to listen or build on what you've just said or not do that. And so it ends up almost like playing ping pong with yourself when you have someone you're trying to have a conversation with and be entertaining to the masses becomes design. Astra sometimes. But if you get the right guy in there could be magic. Yeah. Clare Drake, who was the equivalent of Brian kill what the Ottawa sixty seven's Clare Drake. Was unbelievable coach for the university of L Berta. Golden bears longtime coach many, many. He just died. But he was in fact, you've been around so long he coached my father in law, who's now over eighty years old, and I remember going into that dressing room and he was the guy who had a sign on the wall. I think he was the guy who said it big poster that says, it's amazing what we can accomplish if nobody cares. Who gets the credit right? And I said, that's, that's the smartest advice ever for guys on sports. Obviously, it was a, you know in the locker room of the hockey team. But when you think about jobs and all this other stuff and work in family and all sorts of stuff that, it, it made a ton of sense. Dikla radio. You know this story, who cares about the interview who let's just do that. We're in this together. Right. Yeah. Who cares about who gets the credit here on the Steve, Warne project? Any final thoughts today? We all. Okay. Another article radio is knowing how to end the show. All right. C. Let's get outta here. And I hope he recorded these, these are funny beds. When we're when these massive do you have any final thoughts? Thoughts in that show. What do you how do you want for me? Yeah. You give yours. I give your files. Okay, steve. I'm outta here. I'd say goodnight. Everybody will see. All right. Our moment of random hoopla is coming up shortly after this word from Jim K Ford life. Get so busy sometimes and shopping for a new vehicle can be a real hassle. Until now, thanks to Jim K Ford's new ad home. Test drive. 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316: Post Canada Day Hangovers and Cures, Bobby Bonilla Still Has 15 Years Left on His Deal?
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You will drive in Orleans the as WPA, podcast, sports and whatever. Hey everybody welcome to our program Tales of sports and whatever St Jimmy Back Again I. Don't Call Myself Stevie I. Just do it just to me. Stephen Jimmy back again after our Candidate Day Extravaganza can today James? How're you doing back? Stevie boy if you're GonNa Stevie, you gotTa Go Stevie Boi. Otherwise otherwise. It's like S- TV's. It's a little light for heavy duty. My, struggle with nicknames, Stevie and Warren's e scrap iron. It's probably been some insulting ones in there, too. Yeah I figured well. I always have the jungle by the way. That nickname jungle. My Dad said I looked like a comic strip character when I was born from GM from the thirties. From the fucking thirties. And a I went with that name. And I never really knew my real name. You know as. A Kid. It was always jungle. Even I told this before, but I've got report cards. In elementary, school, Small Town Sudbury. My parents knew the principal and stuff, and all my report, said jungle girl, and then it all went crashing down Stevie when I got to grade seven and they did attendance. You know we see your name or the reading the first day of sure right back in those days Steve out here. Jim Jerome. Right and. No he read Jungle Jerome. Okay And I said here and he goes. No, there's there's no nicknames allowed. And that was the end of the jungle, but I'm still I'm still called that. That'd be funny to read your report card, you know. Jungle has trouble sitting in class. Jungle is disruptive in class. Jungle can't sit still for five seconds. Yeah I. Mean You know when when I think about it? Now I can't even imagine like a little kid being named Jim under the age of ten anymore. Yeah Right. Yeah, it's it's like. I don't know what they go with. Joaquin or something you know everyone's got these fucked up names no. I read something. The other day, someone. Sent me, THE NOT A. I was Kevin Lowe he had a grandchild Keegan his son, who was in the minors right and they. They had a baby but a week ago now or a couple of weeks ago. and. Kevin reached out to me and only gotten the hall of fame courses. We know so. I had a nice back and forth with Cabnol- many years as I told you and wonderful guidance super deserving of that, and I said what about the kid? What's I saw you off doing the awkward grandfather hold of a kid. Ever watches head. Watch the head, okay when you put it in your ear elbow, put your arm across by and your and you squeeze your shoulder up to the top of your head like soups, and I said that polls there. What's Kids Healthy Happy Yeah Seven Pounder Ledger. Ledger. I said to him right away. You Gotta change that fucking name. Okay, you gotta you gotTa. That's not a strong name okay. Ledger could conjures up images of accounting. Go with Jim okay. Anyway I find out the top baby names of twenty twenty one to them WanNa know because everybody's sort of got that soap opera influence on their kids names. They're all pretty reasonable. Though according to Cosmopolitan magazine, which is not a magazine I subscribe to it is however what I googled. I and I look at it though there you go. You ever seen the headlines on cosmopolitan I've seen the model on the front of Cosmopolitan that's read. Some of the headlines read some of the headlines All the time. The little the whatever they're called the bylines, or whatever little racy on the cover the fucking, it's unbelievable. It's like seven ways to unbelievable orgasms right. You know what to tell your man to get you off. What. Is your mind with household items. It's. It's not. It's not too sure to that. Okay Anyway, okay, so these are the names. Top Boys Girls, I. Doesn't matter. It's hard to tell I bet I bet you know I would say that. No, it's They all seem pretty reasonable. Top Five Emma. In order number one Emma Olivia got one of those I've got one of those in my family K.. To five Emma Olivia Eva, Amelia and Isabella. All? Ending what the now yeah, you're right kind of weird. It's totally weird and on the boy side Utah. Five are Liam. Liam McGuire will be very pleased. He'll love that top name no William. And Lucas. We had a cat named Oliver. He got eaten by a coyote. Yeah. Okay there, we go. that. One of my kids are Jake Wyatt and Sydney. Right. Michael! Michael in Lindsey. Strauss it's safe. Strong the kid to be saddled with something where he walks out in the. School Yard Recess and they go ledger. Hope those punches. Good good. Yeah. They were going to get beat up. What what about you? On Mosques? He and his wife name I don't mind. But I think the name they gave their child was more like of A. Serial number of a car. They. Oh No, they revealed his son was named x a e A. Dash Twelve. No, they didn't so. It didn't to your point. yeah, you're kind of inviting it. And there's a million ways. The bullies in the school yard are GonNa. Find ways to actually go after kids and you don't want to give them an extra reason with. Quite. Frankly, that's a stupid name right there. Right first of all, you're into a tough roll, a tough tough road, a whole stevie. When you show up at school in your name, your know your last name is after Cologne Musk. What? Yeah, yeah. So you're trouble there, okay, you're in trouble there, but. Before I forget Stevie. When you were when you were? A few minutes ago, banging off what you think my cards. Would sound like because back in those days they wrote the hand-rolled comments. You know with each with each and then an overall at the end. You would. Tell you what? This is staggering. You almost verbatim had what's on a bunch of my report cards and I found them when my mother died. In. Two thousand twelve. We're you know we're in sort of certain stuff out and keeping stuff that we remember by, and she kept all these report cards and I found them. And I started reading them so I'll I'll find them. And I'll and I'll read some of the shit off to you and. It's like you wrote them going through life's short. Here you're not super short well. What do you like five, nine, five, ten, five ten? Five ten. When I sprouted like you're talking about like in great nine I was like five six or seven or something. I came back the next year six one. Go through puberty. You're a wiry back so that photo of you in Arnold Palmer and you towered over him. Yeah! I was big so I was tall for my age. I might have been fourteen or fifteen when I was six feet tall. So I said to my buddies. You know. I said I'll be the leader here and listened to me, and that has gone wrong so many times. What I've done that okay. I like so many times. Let's not let jerome do this. We're going to get caught. Like that and one of them, I told you let me be the lead. We're sneaking into the pub up in Sudbury at Laurentian University. Okay, because I was six feet tall, got the height all order all the cocktails, okay? You guys stand back. Okay, because you're too short and. I went up to the guy. I said I got it plant. Here's the deal, okay? You guys were some beer. But I'M GONNA go with just to make sure that I don't get asked for I. D because they didn't have any. I'm going to go with the all have a southern comfort on the rocks. Okay And the guy says don't do that. The Guy, fucking bust right away, right? This is a big deal. We're talking about this in the car one of. You don't know what you're talking about I'm telling you a strong move. Anyway so there's three of us there. I go up to the BARGO. Okay. We're GONNA. Give him a Carlsberg. Okay. We'll have a Carlsberg, and I turn around like I'm trying to pick the yeah he's. He's an expert drinker Jim that guys like okay, no problem. Going here. We go over. I'm good to go and all have A. Southern Comfort on the rocks. He Goes I. Need to see some ID right away. Not Not, a not a five. That's like ordering today a Palm Bay A. Everybody'd be like L.. A. Palm Bay Mr All right? Let's see some ID. Here, we are back in the car. Driving back to a bowling alley or something where we were allowed to drake. So I think a lot of people are dealing with the drink, even though it's four hours now after candidate candidate, and and it sucks that it's it's on a Wednesday when it's on the weekend. It's awesome you know when you get a data recover, so people are hauling ass off to work still feeling a little thick after what they did on candidates day, and do you remember in your blurry days like what the worst hangover you ever had was. Oh Jesus Dude. I do I do. The worst hangover I had was my first one. CVS. It's like your first date. It's like your I toss. You Never Forget. No, it's not good though. So my buddy, Jake, who I need my son after he I grew up beside him in the in Sudbury, and we played all our golf together, and we great great summers. We had his we. We lived on the lake, and all we did was whip around in boats. Water Ski Play Golf. Never worked for a long time. So. Jake Stat Great Guy! James was his name surgeon up in Sabri was eccentric. British guy who who you know. He's Kinda. I guy with solar panels on his house. Here's the bone surgeon winning wasn't doing that. He was doing like crazy gardens. He was growing and then he made his own wine. And we had decided we gotta get drunk. You know we never hadn't done it Stevie. and. So we steal a bunch of wine from his dad, we get some beers and there's an island out in front of our house about. Thousand yards off the front of our houses and we said we're going to go out there. We're going to spend the night on the island. And my parents go. Yeah, sure okay, we're. We're rolling shit up in these speaking bags and. clanking are way down to the boat farther stuff in there me and Jake a couple other guys I think his brother because we thought we'd better have someone to watch over because we don't know what's going to happen when we get drunk, okay, and So here Jake we had a one gallon bottle. Steve of wine. It looks like it's probably like I. don't know a four liter jug of milk. Of Wine. and. It was hilarious. I wish you without a video of it. Because we we stood facing each other and said okay, let's do it. Let's do this. They never tasted why so I have a golf amp up KIPP KIPP and then handed to him he. Gives it back to me GIPP KIPP, kipp. This is real time he goes gipp gift. We stop and I'm going. I'm not feeling anything. Okay nothing's going on his last words here we go out. Yeah, I'm not. This isn't working. You know my buddies. Well I think it takes time you know I. Think I'm GonNa. Give you that delegate GIGA SO Steve. We drink. We drink that whole gallon own my and this the first time you've ever had alcohol first time. I had booth and. We drink this whole thing and then. I don't know half an hour later. Steve I'm standing on the shore of the island because there was a pretty hot chick who lived in the same bay that we did. It was on Ramsey. Lake Up. Pretty, hot chick Elaine. and. I ended up standing on the shore going. Hey, I lay. Shows your big BOOBS, okay. I can swim over let Z. Okay. Jake's of cool going not so sure if that's the right thing to be doing right now as we find out later steep. Sound Carey's pretty good across the water. Does. Right back to my parents deck. who were sitting out there? Totally entertained with their drunken son, fucking screaming Russell. John Gorgeous. They were laughing at your. Your bed, says your antics. They pro-. They probably would anyway. They would've no drunk and. So I'm hammered, okay and getting more hammered as time goes on. And, then stevie not feeling the same with Jake and we had sleeping bags on the ground. and. Crawl into the seeping bag oh my God. Oh! Bull into the sleeping bags. You, didn't you didn't even have the game to turn your face overlay had my God yeah I have said license, and just and just frigging protract Albar. I couldn't even get up. And fell asleep in my own puke style. That's awesome I remember getting up finally waking up and my hair was all stuck to the Barf Oh, so that was certainly the. First Time hammered and then the hangover Steve was. fucking three days or something that's almost threw up. Looking at my parents were wine. Drinkers was just. Well, they could afford to sit back and let the alcohol parenting there. Really Yeah, you learn the just by the situation. The circumstances Malia mine was mine was. In my early twenties. I, mean the first time I ever had. Alcohol was like a couple of warm labatt fifty studies that had at the Richmond Bowl diamond and At no stage did I have the game to take down that much alcohol? Because the first few sips absolutely taste of garbage to me, but In, a later on early twenties crushed at a wedding got in way late in a Linda drove we had an apartment in smiths falls at that stage. We hated. But I slept in until about two in the afternoon and woke up, and I was hungry or something, and I started to head to the frazier to get some water or something, and I got as far as the couch, and just passed out again there and somewhere along the way Linda decided that I'm a write off, and so she she goes out and I guess. She left you maybe. I wouldn't have known one way or the other because I was that bad, and she thought I might like the TV on I guess and she turned into an to this day. I can't stand vincent price nineteen sixties. Horror movie legend. Because, there was this big cheesy Vincent Price. Movie Festival that was on the channel that she'd left it on. And there's no remote to be seen, and in fact there might have been one. And I was just no way. I'm going over to get that remote so I guess I just sit here and listen to us. I'm trying to sleep. I'm like spinning I've got a headache. My body feels almost like it's paralyzed and I'm just watching one vincent price movie or hearing it trying to. To roll over like and literally every show by the way, has someone buried alive? That must have been big in the sixties Vincent Price with his evil laugh. You hear on Michael. Jackson's thriller video and him yelling buried alive. It's just I must have watched about ten of those in a row, and just waited for lender to return to give me some kind of sustenance and turn the TV off, and that didn't happen until well into the day. So that's my memory of my worst hangover. I'll tell you Hungover now so. MY SISTER MEGAN IS A. Fifteen years younger than I am okay for fourteen years younger or birthdays arms the same day. It was kind of cool right. We had this sister WHO's. Everyone wanted to get. Everyone wanted to look after back then those as it was, it was fun and she was great and We're living in Heart's desire there in highly sixteen, and it was a walk out basement that we have right so of the house built on and I used to get hammered, and and walk around down the side yard, and come in the back doors, when I was coming off late and smash and fucking hammered okay, and I just collapsed on the couch. I can't even make my room and it's like Friday nights I'm getting on with three or four. In the morning I fall asleep in this culture in the in the REC room. You know the founder of and. I wake up and there's it was Saturday morning and I wake up, and there's Megan. Is You know I mean she'd be? Four or five years old? Okay, and she knew how to turn the TV on. She comes down I wake up to the TV on. She's sitting on the floor in front of me and I'm hung. Man. Okay like I almost can't breathe steep when I wake up. Okay, I'm so hangover and I'm just dying to get something cold. Hit My mouth. I've gotta get I'm dying here. I'm hanging and she has her back to me and I see an ice cream cone that she has in her hand, right? She snuck into the fridge. And got the ice cream cone right. And I'm like immediately ripping out Oliver Hands because I'm going to collapse here. If I said the ice cream perfect, right? I just grab it out of her hands, and then just a bite, the whole freaking cone off, you know. But Steve Her goto was Saturday mornings an ice cream cone full of straight peanut butter. Oh No! Oh No. So anyway I'm dying here. Okay Oh that ice cream would be. Soga doesn't sound good. Steve Young Overly Nice, little ice cream, and I so I go like did Gimme the. God. I can't. I. O Joe! My surprise me Oh my. Oh my cooking. God I love that. All, Scream with straight bucket at any time. That would be horrendous when you're not expecting it, but to be that hungry for and get that. That's really really grow. So what is your best hangover cure because mine would be? An haven't been hung over in a long time. Whipping over to McDonalds I don't even know if they have them anymore to be honest. And getting like two or three magritte's sandwiches. Basically just a breakfast sandwich with sausage egg cheese. And then McDonald's has the genius to throw away this bread garbage. No need to apply here English muffin. You know up yours biscuit. We're GONNA use basically two slabs of Syrup infused pancakes are on. A bad bad. That's mine. For the hangover. Mine was the Best Cure. I found was six to ten lines of blow. Not Four or five. You GotTa get six. Right, back here all there, we go showtime. Hang on a second and I'll take a commercial break here. We gotta get. We'll come back and get some other stuff. We're going to get to happy. Bobby Baena Day. 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That's just the way the mets structured this deal to be able to buy him out back in the day, so he's now nineteen years into this thing, and he still has fifteen more years to go. That's how they structured this whole thing with his buyout. Isn't that crazy? So well, it's sort of freed up some cash for them back in the day right instead of paying lump sum contractor exactly like a lottery right? Some of the lotteries will pay you X. amount per week for life rather than here's a big massive amount of money right now. You know. This this may crack open a bunch of stuff for guys. What A, what a brilliant idea is! His agent Kudos to the agent? Plus Plus I. was there some in there like he was making five eighty years something back then, and if he if he took the chunk though. And they always go if he invested it, and that fucking eight percent return all well brilliant. Can Invest Anything. No, you're going to get eight percents or ten. That's great. That would be one hundred million or something right now, so the mets signed Benito a five year deal where twenty nine million dollars in nineteen, ninety one, and that was the richest deal in team sports. At the time he spent the first three and a half years that deal with the mets before being traded away Baena. BAENA would win a world series with the Marlins and ninety seven, and was later traded back to the mets. As part of that big fire sale, the MARLINS had post championship. The mets released Baena in January two thousand. They were still on the hook, though for his five point, nine million dollars salary that season, and believing that they were poised to make a significant profit through their investments with. Bernie Madoff The mets ownership instead agreed to defer Baena salary with. Interest and spread it across twenty five years from twenty eleven to twenty thirty five. We all know the made off. Ponzi scheme fell apart. Is five point, nine million dollars swelled at twenty nine point eight, and that divided by twenty five years equals the annual one point one nine million payment crazy. I'll tell you on Syria site where. You gotTA give Kudos. To the agent in. Age, it's still hasn't gone away right that the agents still suffer the the scamming interest in their players right. They've they've suffered that along. And there's great agents of course, right? They're not all bad, but. You know what I'm talking about. Sure right that that that you know owners hate the agents a there. As far as they're saying, there comes, you know. which is unfair, but A lot of them. And we've heard terrible stories of guys who signed a deal. Okay, even as far back as that or even before that when we sign these deals and they set up for life. Okay he's bulletproof. Okay, golden here the rest of his life, and then we hear these stories. How this thing get got pissed away. that. He's got nothing now. I mean you often you hear it in boxing. For example you know yeah. Yeah I made Ted million, but know Kim got a bunch the management of my my lawyer. My coaches, my all sorts of Shit where they get ripped off. You hear it in the entertainment industry a lot to. A lot of those boy bands that came along with huge made nothing. Nothing in the end, and and a shitty deal on residuals you so. When ages do suffer that you gotta give this guy a ton of credit a ton of credit and it's really what agents should do. Say Look. They got to convince guy go. Here's what you should do. Let, let's let's let's literally. Set you up for life. Where you're going to get in this case, a million bucks you know, and so I gotta give a lot of credit to that age. He obviously had as much to do with it as the team accepting it. Because I I've ever heard of that well. There are other examples in baseball end. Is Not the same term that Baena has, but Ken griffey junior is doing well as well. The Cincinnati reds of paid Ken, Griffey Junior about three point six million each year since two thousand nine, and they'll continue to do so through to the end of next year, so he's had a sweet deal There's a hall of Fame Close Name Bruce Suitor The braves paid him and have paid him one point two million since ninety-one and his. Next year the final year of his deferred salary plan and the other big names. Manny Ramirez, two million dollars has since twenty eleven Wilson Until Twenty, twenty, six and Bret Saberhagen even who's who's been out of the game for a longtime former royals great pitcher. He's made two hundred fifty grand a year each year since two thousand four, and he's still got five years or eight years left on that one so. Right and then hockey, the famous one is Rick Dipietro. He's still going to get another one point five million dollars earlier every year till twenty twenty-nine. Yes, the islanders picked him first overall not only was that a famously bad pick, but it was a famously bad signing, and in the buyout process or the deferred salary. He gets one point five mill year till twenty, twenty nine, and that was such a terrible deal because they had Roberto Longo and they got rid of him because they knew they were gonNA draft Rick Dipietro, first overall and Longos, probably going to the hall of fame. Right. Anyway it's great to see that because. You're you're a hotshot entertainer or athlete? You're in your early twenties right that a lot of these kids come along and golf right the sign, these giant deals right and and a lot of them. Piss it away. They end up buying houses for everybody. You know the collect cars because they're making ten fifty million, a year or something like that and they go bananas for four or five years, and you know the good agents is look at. This is not a good idea. You. We want to set you up. You're only twenty five. Okay, so it sounds like you're okay to go here, but the way you're spending. And how frigging crazy went on this It's not GonNa last right? I mean I've read stories where it were geyser. You know when they sign these big contracts. Were they end up? Spending Steve Shit like six seven million a year a year in. Flying their own plane. In buying buying a plane. These guys by plant twenty, five million. You know and. So Sokuto to this agent man I hope a lot of people look up to and go, and that young kids will be sort of convinced that, but you can see what happens to them. Go No fuck that yeah I don't want I want all this right now. Man I want to I want to set myself up and everybody else in my life and. Sounds like a heart warming thing to do until the six years later going because there's no Dole left. Well as we wrap up the program today James I. Guess Me Thinking. You know you and I you know parted company with Bell, media. As I see all these contracts and what these guys are getting after they parted company with their teams. I'm thinking to myself. Maybe our people could have done a little more for us. Are You with me? I remember I. Remember I'll tell you what Larry Kelley man is a is a phenomenal agent. From Ottawa's you know and he was. Steve is men's agent and he would. Buffalo tables dominant Kasich agent. Good guy that the set up, you know. We played a little barely cocky with him. A couple of winters ago great guy, Wonderful Guy and About three four years into work in there I. I had to do a new. Sound like hot here but I had to do a new deal, and I just didn't know what it was worth I. Didn't you know my brother in law was in HR and he's like pal. Don't you know? Get get an agent. Get an agent to do. Because I wasn't sure you know and. Can't get fucking agent. They're going to laugh at me. Those mayhew right? WHO's tough tough negotiator anyway? I went I went to Larry Kelly and. And he said okay. I don't do media stuff you know, but I'll do it for you know. He was great friend of my dad's and he loved. In love the family, and and he did me a huge favor you know. So anyway. Couple of meetings back and forth and I, it started to go to my head right and. So. Larry made this deal like two or three year deal and it was great. It was more money than I could have ever imagined you know at the time and and then I got then I got full myself, Stevie, because this is how cool areas so he phones me it was. It was great day. I was almost crying on. This is crazy. You know that they're gonNA. Pay Me this and I mean it wasn't million Steve anything nuts, but it was. It was big. You know big for me and. So, then I said that's great Larry. That's fantastic. Thanks for doing that and. I said listen Larry now I'm leaning back Steve In my chair. Smoking a dart with my feet up on the desk going. Hey Lehrer. See if we can get a golf club membership thrown all okay right, and there's a pause right and I'm holding the phone, and then the line goes dead right now. Go! Fuck I got disconnected there. You know so iphone him back. And I go hey Larry. We got disconnected. He goes no, he didn't. But we did because I hung up on you. Fuck just hung up the fucking phone any any any tuned me up after and said you're you know fucking? Talk Me Back Down to Earth here a little bit yeah. But but he he was really great, and said look. You WanNa get term and stuff like that and it. He's he's a great agent. Larry Kelly's just I've never heard a bad thing about that guy ever ever up about that guy and believe me. It's a tough GIG. It's a tough kicked off. Sure okay. We gotta go any final thoughts. Today's. We wrap things up. Steve I'm just going to. Myself! So brings me love the memories. Even get myself a little. Ice Cream cone with dishwashing soap and saw. Sounds amazing. Your next hangover cure if you ever go down, that road yeah, okay. Good night everybody.
403: Great Sports Documentaries; The Art of the Deal; Season 4 of The Crown; Masters Ratings Sucked
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I was doing the last few minutes just Is gonna hang out looking at sports documentaries and the one i was looking at those while watching the buffalo sabres. They got a kind of a neat thing going a series is reminiscent of the hbo. Hard knocks thing. They call it. It's on their their youtube accounts. The buffalo sabres. It's called embedded twenty twenty behind the scenes and as watching episode. Two of the taylor hall signing and other. It was great. They give you a hockey fan. And you're curious about the art of the deal of these free agent. Signings go down. I think you'll find it fascinating and annual basically see in this video how exactly the signing of hall to the sabres came to be and And all the other things that were going on with free agency. Of course taylor was the big fish so they had other things to to deal with. But it was all focused on taylor hall and kevin adams is the brand new rookie. Gm in buffalo. So he's working around the clock with the scouts. And things and you get all the phone conversations back and forth with taylor halls agent and kevin adams and honestly. I felt so inside. I felt like i was almost intruding. Knows like as the viewer. I was like cheese guys. I'm not sure i should be here. Do you want me to go or So it was really good and then on the other side they waited. Okay as you get a call. Why one deal exactly. This is taylor hall we're talking about a former. Mvp why at this stage in his career as he signing a one year contract. So taylor ho and his age they call back wondering about that and The sabre sign on to that because because of the world we're in right now because of it and the uncertainty moving forward financially in the business says the only reason they did it in taylor hall for some reason signed off on it but it was I thought really well done and interesting while you know what i'm always looking for. I'm a big tv watcher. You know net flicks crave prime and all that stuff. And so you know. I'm the go-to for the series series. So i'm about reality shows. I like so you've given me an option. Now i can. I can get off real housewives of beverly hills. I i can start to watch something a little better. The michael jordan one was really good. I don't know if you watch that. Speaking of sports documentaries. I got too late and i felt like i'd missed it because the whole world was talking about it at a time when there was no sports during covid. And it felt everybody's watching everybody's watching it and ended by the time. Got around to watch that now. I felt like so kinda done now. Everybody's that thing to death. I feel like i've already seen it. Yeah no it's good. Oh absolutely. I heard that too. Yeah it's it's really good. I liked the. I like the. I like the docs. I remember just texted it to you by the way i sent you a link to the actual youtube channel okay. I'll watch that you know. I've watched i've watched other. I don't know. I think of this but you know the comedian russell. Peters is that his name. Yeah canadian comedian. That's right yeah. He's hilarious east indian guy. He's he's hilarious. They did up. But i never. I never really liked the guy you know. I met him a couple of times and He sort of rubbed me the wrong way he goes on. He goes onto the list of the look by right. Oh i hate that you know we all know what the look by if you don seven reset that so the look by his is you're talking to someone and they keep they're just not interested in you. Keep looking by you because there's someone there's someone behind you that the conversation started you were as good as it got but things have improved since then and he wants to move on from you while you're talking to him exactly exactly. Yeah i used to be a bit of a look by myself. So i know what it is. I think i was getting the look by on russell. Peters and then he had a dock documentary and i thought okay. I'll tune into this. Because i love to not like this guy and it solidified my. I love to not like this guy but it's inside. It's inside one of the one of the scenes from it is him in a in a limo. He rolls pretty big ended. Me doesn't shy away from telling people how he rolls what he does but one of them was in a limo and it was after a show that he did was he was reading an article from a critic and the critic didn't like him and his reaction to it is. Oh my god. This guy's fierce man. He's fiercely wanted to say so. It almost made me uncomfortable. But you come the. I liked dogs. I'm trying to. I'm trying to think of other ones. That i've watched very few are bad that i've watched on net flicks and The boys on the bus doesn't come immediately to mind i. I can't even remember watching that. It's so long ago Were you in that by the way this is about the eighty edmonton oilers one of the scene sitting around mrs apartment. They're all having dinner. I remember them shooting it. I think i ended up in their little cameo side profile. Shot or something like that side boob twenty. We stevie the doc you mentioned You know the michael jordan one is good dirty. Money is an excellent series of of episodes. I think you'd looked it up. Where companies sorta scammed their way to the top but got busted to misleading advertising in such great series great series. It's one of these ones where you go. Oh my god dude and then they get caught your eye. Oh no that's a good one. There's there's one about a check name. Elizabeth holmes who invented a company when she was nineteen years old called called. The're knows and so this thing. I'll just read that promised to revolutionize blood testing elizabeth. Holmes became the world's youngest self made billionaire herald heralded as the next steve jobs and she starts to dress like steve jobs. She starts to talk like him anyway. Shortly after she did it they figured out it was a scam and she made like she was worth a billion at twenty years old or something when she did this x. Anyway excellent doc. I think it's called out for blood in silicon valley. If win you recommend highly highly yup. Good some of the others. I've seen in the last little while would be Tiger king and everybody's probably seeing that by now beautiful. The octopus teacher you put me onto. I still finished it. I was probably built it up too much. Because you've talked about it so much and how much you loved it. I was okay. This is what i was just blown away by was just the cinematography of the thing like just such a beautiful looking documentary. The framing is amazing. The guy this isn't just a guy was a snorkeller. This is a guy who has decades of of video and film experience and you you can certainly tell i saw mc millions in the last year which was about the whole monopolies monopolies on right now. I think at mcdonald's but in the past few people got took advantage of the system and There was a lot of insider trading on that on that front. Somebody got hold of the winning tabs all and and lots of people made millions of dollars and they were able to suss it out and make. Mcdonald's had nothing to do with it. However the agency that they kind of farmed out to look after the contest whether it was a leak there and the person that had the league at all these winning tabs and he was freely distributed in them to Do people he knew to go out and get rich. Oh yeah so. It's quite interesting to see how that all went down. Now you can have such a breach security on something like that. I want to be his friend. The tab sorry and just backup steve on octopus teacher. It's it is a little slow at the beginning but really what it is is. This guy was a marine Film guy okay. That he did you know like like the jacques cousteau stuff that he filmed and then he was so love. The water grew up in the waters from south africa. But but the cool thing is he. Has this octopus that he goes back to see every day. This is real Becomes a pet of this guy and you just can't believe it like this. Octopus shows up at the same place every day and in five thousand billion kajillions leaders of water. Anyway it's it's cool. Give it a shot. Give it give it a little further. It's neat some of the Sports documentaries the best of all time according to esquire dot com esquire magazine. Of course would be. Oj made in america. It's a very well regarded Senna the story of auto racer ayrton senna. Y'all among their favorites. Good yes it is. Good couple of others will be kicking and screaming. No not a will ferrell soccer movie but it is a six part history of english. Football that The bbc put together. got no documentary in nineteen seventy dollars. Ellison the pirates says he threw a no no against the san diego padres while high on lsd. So hang on vert right to the top of the list right to the talk says like a good one tyson in two thousand eight is well regarded as well and Yeah there's lots out there for sure but anyway We got talking about this. Because i was talking about this buffalo sabres imbedded twenty twenty and i'd certainly if you're hockey fan give that look and has also mazed. How involved that their owner. Terry julie's like he's sitting there right at the table. I know he's writing the checks and everything. He's got some stuff to say he and his wife kim right there at the table Talking talking some hockey and kim's chiming in talking to taylor hall. And i found well ninety nine times out of one hundred. A very engaged owner is usually a recipe for failure right. Jerry jones of course comes to mind up. Speaking of that going inside on agency. Thing i i had larry kelly great guy. Ottawa guy agent hockey agent. He was you know he's been around long time. You're league hockey with them. There you go right is a wonderful guy. And he was you know. Dominik hasek domenico buffalo table below dominant. Contact steve is was one of his guys from auto anyway. I got him to do one of my radio. Deals there at chum. And so i was like into this thing and i started started going to my head a little bit okay. They were talking for some days for sure and Yeah i could see that happening. And i was sitting around. What are you gonna. What did they say you want. Come back with this really. You're in your trailer waiting for your close up. Yeah exa- larry's going to pipe down there. Scooter okay just pipe down right and then so it was fantastic okay. It was fantastic and then well. That's great larry. That's that's great. Thanks a lot. You know for for negotiating that thing and i said in a bad move right hayler to get them to throw in a golf club membership but the on cup okay. And as i'm talking to them right they'll the the line goes it gets disconnected right. It goes dead night iphone back. I don't know what happened there. We got we got disconnected. And he said no we didn't i hung up his why and he said because you're a bit of a dink shut up with your golf course go by your own you know anyway. That was my one and only experience with an agent. So you can see how it goes to people's heads you know in in that sabres documentary. I gotta say taylor hall didn't sound like that at all again. A former hart trophy winner number. One overall draft pick probably had multiple teams. Come after him and he just sounded like a pretty reasonable guy. None of that. Can you get them to throw in a row a porsche for me or whatever. Jimmy i was just gonna say. That's jimmy being jimmy. Their little little full fist of humble pie from from. Larry you bring up a great thing about what what are what are or would be or were or gonna be extraordinary negotiated contracts and i think of a couple of Which of course. I don't know the full facts or details. The bobby orr story with alan iverson is totally interesting. Because i think bobby orr had negotiated or had the boston bruins offering him a percentage of the team. Here's the background on that. By the way so eagleton's negotiating a new deal for him in nineteen seventy six or wanted to stay with the bruins at that point and the bruins desperately wanted him and like you said. They offered him an eighteen point. Five percent stake in the team which is worth millions if he's day but eagleton had what they would say Unethical ties with chicago blackhawks. Bill words who also wanted door and eagleson concealed boston's offer from or and convinced him. That boston did not want him to stay so or signed the deal with chicago. Can you imagine happening that happening today. Oh my god you mean you mean the deal itself. Twenty percent of a team. Roughly no i don't even care about that for an agent to deceive his own. Client like that of for sure. That was one of things that the guy was accused of know. You're not going good when they rip you out of the hall of fame right right. Was alan abelson the other one. Is alex rodriguez. When he was negotiating deals with the yankees i think he got tried to get a percentage of the merchandise sales. We were talking about that. Nope last two above logos right with the jerseys and all that and what it means wise and all that stuff of course the yankees got the iconic logo. But i think he got like he was the one of the first guys to sign for twenty plus million or something a year but it was something like that like something where he tried to get concessions sales and merch sales or something so anyway you remind me of a great story on that front of an athlete and concessions Brad smith who had become friends with over the years Play beer league hockey with him. But he played for the ottawa senators and does pregame shows and things on. Tsn twelve hundred still lives here in town coaches minor hockey and stuff and Greg got and he played for a long time like bounced around at all levels of hockey ended up playing for over twenty professional teams and is final. Stop i believe it was. His final stop was a low level minor league team where he was playing for the denver cutthroats cutthroat to some kind of failing one anyway. The team went belly up and so that stage. I think i didn't even realize i was doing that So basically at this stage. I think he was a player coach at that point. And the owners like Well he's still owed brad money and the team is folding. And he goes well here. Take all our paraphernalia. So that's what he was left with kind of severance all these wore caps and shirts and so it was funny. So we play thursday at hockey with gordie wilson and for a few seasons for a few summers he would give out the player of the game award. They'd get a denver cutthroats ball cap. So i got a couple of those laying around the house. That's great the suspend ables interview that we did with larry robinson was last week show He made speaking of contracts. And maybe had a terrible agent steve but his first year with the montreal canadians he made seventy five hundred dollars. Unreal okay multi multi time stanley cup champs. Got his name on the cup. Ten times steve. Ten okay conn smythe vp. The whole the norris trophy winner larry robinson so that was his first year contract and then and then he said then that it skyrocketed because he got fifteen thousand is in fact not enough money that he couldn't just keep that job he. He got a job with the department of highways to walk because he needed more than what he was making a montreal canadian. That'd be the equivalent. Let's say here. I'm here in ottawa and So you know the top defensemen for the ottawa. Senators is thomas chabad and be like seeing him in the midst of his second season in the nhl when he really established himself as a very good defenseman. it'd be like seeing him it broadway waiting tables. What you imagine booting mazen of boulevard. Montreal look over and go frequent larry robinson their paving what crazy kevin role kelo speaking of contracts of years ago in the eighties We there was a saturday where we were floating. Down the river this scheduler. They've got a big big party. Put on the when klondike days. Ron which is like the exhibition. Okay and everyone gets a boat again. Some of the abilities votes is called the raft race sourda rafters and so you show up. It's a huge slobbering contest. Okay steve just like just get everyone gets annihilated and we're launching water balloons and drinking our heads off and and kevin was gonna come on the boat with us he had to go. He had a meeting with. Glenn say the general manager about his contract and he said i'll. I'll meet you down there in the morning. And so we hung in there waited before we left and he shows up jumps on the big grin on his face okay and vicious is his nickname so even call them fish and i said hey scooter. What's up with your your all beaming here. What happened with slats he said. Jimmy shake hands with a millionaire. I said oh yes sir. Two hundred grand for five years and he was paid. Well you know nine hundred. Nineteen eighty six or something like that so well i think about that was around the time. Eighty six eighty seven. That's when salary disclosure came forth for the first time. And larry robinson talked about that as well like nobody knew what anybody else was making see. Felt like okay. I guess this is all there is this is. This is a standard salary. I guess for what i work. I'm a first or second year. Nhl player okay. I'll take what they're giving me but the reality was. The owners screwed the players for decades and decades one salary disclosure once that was negotiated in the. Cba don't think the owners had any idea what that would mean. Maybe they had a but it was once it was there for all to see. Now i can start. I can start comparing say okay. Jimmy makes this. I want to make this right. And that's why the salaries are what they are today. But even you know when when kevin lowest signing that deal you talk about like. That's a hell of a deal back then right ca salary. Disclosure adjust occurred. I remember looking at the. When it first came out the first time we could see all the salaries in the nhl was published and doug wickenheiser a former number one overall draft pick back in nineteen eighty nine hundred eighty seven. I think he maybe playing for washington but he was making twenty five grand a year like unbelievable like that. Recently there was an nhl guy making that kind of money that let that little like i was making more in nineteen eighty-seven myself in a dinky little radio station up in renfrew ontario. Then a guy who's playing in the national freaking hockey league right. Yeah it reminds me of one of the great stores speaking of disclosing. You're right right chain. Change the whole fabric of of salaries right in professional sports. Certainly in the nhl. Remember steven one for the practical joke for the prank. You know and i went on a golf trip years ago with a group of guys and the the one guy heading up. The gulf trip handled all the expenses for it. Okay and he said all look after everything and now. I'll just send you guys a bill at the end of the trip. You know and i said fantastic. That's great you know and one of the guys in the trip was just one of these guys love to prank. So i wish you would have video that at at the time for his reaction so what happens is so everyone gets a bill. Okay for this trip and say it was like twenty two hundred bucks or something you know three or days off. We went on right so it's obviously split up evenly with everyone that was twenty two hundred and we all got the bill at the same time and we're sitting around having lunch in week after the these bills care right and he's gone he's brings it up right he goes. You guys got your builder from the trump. I said yeah. I did he goes. I thought it was a little steep didn't you. I said it's funny. You bring that up. Because i agree. Fourteen hundred eighty bucks is a little steep. He goes like because of course it was twenty two. Let's see what yeah. I agree way too. I guys useless. Offered three hundred extra bucks anyway. I do like to grind a guy i guess. Yup i only come back in the show. We're going to get into I know that we Got away from golf yesterday. Briefly. we're gonna do a quick thing on the masters because it was despite all our bleeding talking so much in recent podcast episodes about the masters. It was by far the least watched masters since the total 's were were kept back in the day lowest rated masters since one thousand nine hundred fifty seven with a three point four rating. We'll get to that story next. After these words man staying in shape is challenging these days. Thankfully there's popeye supplements ottawa with the products. And advice to help you reach your health and fitness goals. Papa's proud to showcase great. Canadian brands like perfect sports at avant ontario committed creating great tasting products with real ingredients. That get results. Find this great canadian brandon more at popeye supplements ottawa with six locations. To serve you or popeye's online orders dot com a lot of people. I talked to end up asking me. About what coverages should they have for their house. How much do i need. 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Glenn helped us in a big way at the right price for our home and the response from the buyers was amazing. He also set aside a budget as we got ready for sale to help out with painting cleaning staging and lighting are home sold in less than a week for well over asking price got a ton of offers on it. You should connect with glenn. Today at glen walton dot com. So james sunday's final round of the masters averaged five point five million viewers. That's a three point four rating so it's the lowest rated masters since nineteen fifty seven and the least watched two masters since viewership totals were kept beginning in nineteen ninety five. So how are a a couple of fairly obvious reasons l. Well first of all how can it be a lower rating lower television rating than nineteen fifty seven. There weren't even telling me this there were what the hell. That's the ratings based on percentages right. So if you're total possible viewership is a piece of pie. Then basically ninety six point six percent of the audience was tuned to something else even though not that many north american households had televisions in them. But yeah tv did exist in nineteen fifty saga okay. I'm going to guess y you you've got a list of reasons there that the fourth two big ones the two big ones. I think that one in particular is the absolute. I guess time of year. I dunno november something but Covert i would think everyone staying home to watch it. Maybe that it was on at seven thirty in the morning. The final round for me. No for me. I had to get up at seven thirty to watch and choosing in the afternoon nine thirty. Am was was the final grouping on sunday because cbs into football and they got a football game at four o'clock so that would i mean who's watching golf getting out of bed certainly in the west that seven thirty that would be why would think it'd be the lowest rate. Yes no no. It wasn't but you know what you make a make a decent point there that could be part of the mix as well but you brought up in the explanation of that the biggest reason of all. And that's the runaway popularity of the national football league. It's the first time they've had to go up against the nfl because this just in the nfl does not usually play in the month of april. Of course of course of course and the other one was that and this was. This is all theorizing right because nobody puts descriptions on their nielsen ballot. Or whatever the hell they call it. These days In dustin johnson had the thing pretty much locked away in the back nine. The back nine was described less of a A battle in more of a dustin johnson parade home. Now i. you're right like i said you were. You were so into it. 'cause you know dustin johnson your friends with dustin johnson so you were more into it than most people myself. I'm watching that thing. And i never got a sense in the back nine anyway like he got. He leaked a little oil near the end of the front nine but i found the once he got he sort of reaffirmed his lead. I just i felt like i didn't i didn't feel like dustin johnson was gonna blow that okay she performed. Yeah and i listen objectively. It's not 'cause. I like dust. And i just four or five shots back. Nine sunday at augusta is where it all comes down it. I'm surprised i'm surprised that that would be a reasonable people. Okay he's got a five shot lead. Nothing bad can happen out here in nine holes wall can't but anyways it's amazing tells you how big the nfl is. Obviously not not the we need another reason. We all know the nfl. Is you know at least in north america anyway. It is by far the most popular league to watch but You know we're talking. Run of the mill midseason. One pm kickoffs right. Some good games in there and everything but Yeah basically a lot of would be masters viewers were lost to the gridiron right. You know the other thing steve. That was interesting during the masters year. They didn't allow golfers to us. Greens reading books. Like you'll see what they all flip. Open their books out. The county has a book in the gulf has won so sure that greens reading book is really accurate. So what it is is know is a graph graphic of the green that they have and then they go. The caddies are out there all week rolling balls because they know where the pins are so for example. Here's you know the pin is at this location. There's there's an ex that's marked on the green. So they know. That's the the friday location for example and what they'll do is roll golf balls towards that axe from all sides. Okay and then they mark how it breaks okay so They got the huge advantage. Huge advantage from Your i for example. Who are out there so there. There's not there's not a lot left to chance when they're reading putz they've got this barbara. They look out the guy goes. I'm telling you i did this. I rolled it five times. This ball breaks left although it looks okay. So they've got that it's not really an advantage right. It's an advantage on schlep rocks like you and me but like literally. Every golfers caddy is doing that. That's right it's it's it's just an expected practice now and it's not really an advantage as a result because everybody does it well it would be. You would think. Okay what i meant to say mean maintenance as the okay. I went like the guy on taxi in the who tang long bang bang long. That's what they need and smorgasbord But look at it this way. So i've got greens book steve. But you don't okay and we're competing at a pro government. You're gonna freak right. You're going to say. I don't think so. They don't allow it steve at the masters this year. No greens books. Okay everyone shoots fifteen hundred twenty under. I didn't know they didn't have books. Yeah they weren't allowed and so the old timers from the pga. Arnold palmer jack nicklaus all these other guys gary player. They've been pissed that they're using these. And i've always said they shouldn't allow them and so everyone thought well this'll be crazy. They put the better who so just just goes to show because it takes a lot of time right there whipping through these. It's really boring. Viewing you know to see these guys walking back and forth and looking at these books so anyway we needed to call it a day my friend any final thoughts as we go going flat on my final thoughts stevie. Yeah it's alright. It's alright i don't. I'm watching the crown right now. Got us a very solid season. Four introduces princess di into the fray. They found some actress. I don't know her name. I should know if i'm going to bring it up on a podcast. They should probably look up her name. But i didn't. I'm i'm going final thoughts in your stead and She was terrific. They found someone who looked at very much. Like princess di and i find myself absolutely. I was never a big royal family guy to start with right. Why be watching the crown. I don't know but my wife likes it. So i sit down and watch it with her. I've never really appreciated the royal family. Now flat out. Don't like the royal family. I a bunch of jerks anyway. Still tv plus. I never believed you know speaking of that. I doubt naby. I loved by the way to. Oh yeah antenna was great and i watched the crown before they started changing the actors or they had a big fight in re in re they got a little ego maniacal the who should get paid more money as an actor and actress After that so. But i watched the first year or two. Where was the original actors. You know what i. Don't you know the royal family. Steve you see them on television right in. They're walking around. They're doing stuff. And know. I look damn going prince. Prince harry isn't there are the two sons who the two boys diamond harry william. And harry going. Prince harry is in a helicopter pilot. Come on. He's just wearing the uniform. Ergo with i think they just make stuff up steve about how accomplish. The kids are going are they. And what are they gonna come clean on. Who harry's dad really is true. They're speaking of documentary. Steve wouldn't that be good while the more watched the crown if it is in fact true and it went down that way they'd be. Nobody surprised now if again if that was all true. I don't know if it is or not could be hollywood taken liberties if that went down like that nobody would be surprised. If if princess di decided to seek comfort in the arms of another. Well look at so. He's ginger right. The sun Harrier william will harry. Oh harry's the youngest of the two that's right so he's a ginger as everyone knows look at princess di when she was hanging out with an a question guy james hewitt red haired guy look at him and look at the prince. They're gonna go. Oh come on come on. Yeah yeah. Yeah i cover. I've always thought that. And i think it more now that i've watched a season four of the crown and the way gillian anderson who plays margaret thatcher like she. She should win every emmy award. There is really okay market book. It book get anyway with that. We shall take our leave james. Go wash some television. You're going to be in trouble. Steve you know after we. Or maybe i will be saying you know ginger. Look at the guy. The guy was on. The polo team was hanging on. I expect a call from bbc this afternoon. Talk the lie. 'cause breaking the story. Here's all righty rehashing old. One that everyone's just letting that settle so i'll say i'll say got all the facts from you. Call warrants blame him. I let me just everything i said. They're both the royal family and stuff. Let me just finish it off here. Allegedly very go and now we're done. I'm saying nothing night everybody lesean.
Spittin' Chiclets Episode 310: Featuring Allan Walsh + Glen Metropolit
"Blue everybody. Welcome to episode. Three hundred and ten of spitting chick. That's present the by pink whitney from our friends at new amsterdam vodka here in the hospitals bullets. Podcast family. what's up. Ganga's get back in the saddle again. Lastly last week looks like things are coming together for the upcoming season. We'll get to that shortly. let's say to the fellas. I might eat granola producer. How goes it goes very well. I find out grenell. Cough is being added to nhl. Twenty one. I bought myself some christmas decorations and i received an extremely nice nice tax from keith. Yandell last night complementing the nbd merge that ryan is wearing right now. So i'm in a very very chipper mood. Gee i've ever thought a million years you being fucking video game jay. Nope no chance he's still waiting for. Dm reply song grenell. You're you're gonna via a free agent or like draft pick no grenell cough like the the name. Grenell cough has been added. So had the announcers go back and rerecord deneen grenell cough. So anytime like my guy scores a goal or you can create a player in. You can be granola cough. We you didn't name him. Grenell cov named him grenell cough yes. I'm russian born. There's an i right. It's not grenell or is there the there. Oh yeah grenell cough. Yes but it's grenell e cough. Okay that's what i wanted to make with. Promo code biz. Twenty one hundred percent off. Russian gas is making money off grenell off. Jerseys awesome day zeke sweater shutout busin- asked what's going on. We just interviewed wolski. That hasn't released yet but he was talking about the vitamins we got. We got some why nobody ain't going to be dropping this episode but sold so everyone listening doesn't know that that happened so we have two more terms. Now aria two-term total. We have the russian gas and the vitamins. Look forward for you guys during that one. You have a big big announcement. ra Well i've got a couple announces. I love i think of a shadow to drew drouin brennan here in saint petersburg florida. Allow me to use the internet in their florida room. I have wifi in my hotel room but it didn't have enough juice to do the show. So growly said see we can do and a couple listeners. I met them getting a cuban sandwich the other day and they were very generous and allowed to come and record in the show. So if i buy a place in florida Can you grab who did their ceiling for me. Because i'm gonna call. I like the old. I told him the old school vibe reminded me of the house. I grew up in the nineteen sixties tile and ship. Buy what. I'm looking at right now. It looks like somewhat. someone is living in there. That dexter is going to end up. Awesome good knowing yara going to have to start hosting the show now. Too little paint chip. I'm just gonna make sure. I don't eat them on my two hundred dylan. I was a kid but yeah because you did mention that we have a major program note. We want to share We'll be dropping our next episode. I get introduced one time. Don't then at least the width. Doug ryan whitney sorry ahtisaari to you my monday. You know you have those days. I actually thought. At the end of the day i was like at least i can tell the story on the podcast so i wake up early six thirty. I grabbed wyatt. I take the diaper off this dude hoses all over me and covered in his piss. Whatever no big deal like that happens. All the time caught me in the face disgusting. The day goes along. My back's killing me. All of a sudden. I just moved quickly. That's where i'm at right now. I'm just making quick movements locking up to nightmare i actually. I said fuck. Because i knew i. I'm now doing. I'm now down for two days. You know locked up. So now all my. It's not even eight thirty or maybe it's like nine thirty at this point so the day goes along the day goes along and i'm now going to get an mri on my neck now. It just so happened that my neck locked up the day that i was going at the mri. This thing's been scheduled for about a week. I'm trying to get figured out what's going on in my upper back. It's just whatever. I don't wanna get into it so i'm driving along saturday. We'll take you back two days. I bought a new car. Two thousand and twenty one cadillac escalade. This thing is a beast. I looked at it online. I loved it so we went and got it. I'm driving along. I'm driving along saturday. I enjoy it sunday. I like this cars great. I'm driving along. Sorry i went back to dr driving along monday. I'm driving the mri. I'ma this car so fucking awesome day. Change the inside. Love driving it seventy miles an hour body. The car broke down. No completely what i thought i ran something over where it felt like there was like a human or maybe a cone or something that i'm like dragging them i get over. I'll just immediately go over to the breakdown. They and this is on ninety five north right. this is right near waltham. The cars are buzzing. Cars are going seventy to ninety miles an hour and the breakdown lane. But it's thought that. Why did you see the horror stories of people. Foskit area's fog dude two hours two hours. I waited the car rear access. Asis is off or something. like that. i don't know what's going on at one point. It wouldn't even start. I turned it off. I tried to restart it. It started shaking. Like i was in a book on the gravitron. Remember that that ride a canopy laker. That's more spinney. But still i'm sitting there. I'm panicking because cars buzzing by this car now won't even turn on and on like this brand new fucking car you shitting me so i wait two hours. I told to the dealership to get a loaner car. But now i had to miss the mri so the car. Cancer the mri. Unlike what a fucking day. My next killing me i smell like piss and i can't even get the i need along with my brand new truck being a fucking lemon so i get home. I grabbed my phone sitting on the couch. I go on twitter. I'm so embarrassed to admit. I'm like i'm like a seventy year old with poland. This move this is something that you get grandfather's with father. And i get a tweet. That's now deleted brunelli from like twitter support team or whatever look very official blue checkmark. I click on the link. I dunno seventeen hundred followers. Says something like there's a copyright infringement in one of your tweets signing now to correct this issue now. I immediately think back first of all immediately think back to like. We got emails or something. That music on twitter suspended grenell. You know what i'm talking about. I was oh. I don't know maybe i have a song on their as flying around right now i sign into this thing. It takes you to a link where you just put in your twitter name and password next thing you know. Boom my phone's going off like july fourth fireworks. My phone did they. They hacked into my instagram. My g mail my twitter. My there was one more. What was the other said. Ven ven mo. I don't know what the fuck happened. But they overtook it they were signing in from turkey. They were signing from california. There was one in louisiana. Just getting attacked seal team. Sixty nine jus- thing that monday you know you think of people out there. And they're struggling and they're having a tough time think ryan whitney's monday december sixth russian. Manny got their payback. Russians are getting their payback. Coming after you but you follow up with that wolski interview and talk about battling back and grinding through all this. You guys are gonna love this and it isn't today. I didn't mean to interrupt you. It isn't table. But you're gonna love it so i needed the because i needed to get it off my chest. That's that's hilarious. Because i was like. I got distracted. Biz mentioned throats of the the programming note. We had caught up with that First off i do wanna mention. We have two guests on today's episode. We have player agent alan walsh. He comes on to break down and put it into layman's terms out what's gone with the the league and the union the bullshit of the last couple of weeks and now we chatted with him forbid interesting fellow like i said he has a pretty fun twitter follow as well and we have glenn metropolit- who was a veteran for about ten twelve years played here in boston for a little bit while i'm in florida now but Great little play man. I enjoyed watching them play. He had a very interesting story from where it came from. And the fact he made it to the jelly. He certainly beat the odds. So we'll be getting to that a little bit shortly but yeah We want to let the folks know we're going to be switching things up a little bit here on checkouts Instead of dropping on thursdays we are going to be dropping on tuesdays. Starting this upcoming tuesday the fifteen. And we'll be doing each subsequent tuesday going forward for the foreseeable future. You guys wanted to chime in here busy. You wanna go first or it's awesome another thing too is. We just dropped our first full episode on youtube. Three nine with pierre mcguire on monday so the plan was thursdays and mondays. And like why not give these people the ability to listen during the week. If they're commuting dropping on tuesday. But also we're going to be able to follow up two days later so thursday mornings or actually sorry in the afternoon thursdays so two days later basically with the full youtube length episode. So i know it's not right away like some people do it. We're trying to innovate and get better. And pay attention to the consumer you guys and we feel like the tuesday drop and then fall by thursday. Youtube launched will be perfect and everybody can get what they need at the right time. So that's that's how i feel about it. Wet our users kind of direct us. What we do. Yeah and i saw some not a ton but some complaints of like well. Why would you draw. Someone wrote me. Why would you drop it. A as the part on tuesday and not right then is the video and that just doesn't it doesn't make sense and in the end if you'd rather watch it on video you just wait two extra days. It ends up being the same thing. Right thoughts yeah. So i i actually enjoy doing. I think it's cool. You think you also if you listen to our part. I think if you went and watched certain things in when conversations are happening. I think you'd have totally different opinions on. How are relationships are how the podcast goes. 'cause i think there's times that we probably sound either more serious or more joking around than we are. Actually when you see on camera you know what i mean. Our completely agree so youtube cool. You're getting into that. We did the chiklis cup grenell. He's you know we. We've really grown that channel. That youtube channel and we have so many funny videos. I think when you get guests on that that are telling good stories and the way. They're animated so. I love it and you mentioned already that we are going to one a week. Yeah starting tuesday so yeah so i. I hope people aren't really disappointed by that. I i understand good for good good. Yeah we're good. We're going to one episode week for good and i if you are disappointed. I am sorry about that because we appreciate so much that you want like more content from from us before and that's like the craziest feeling in the world but personally and and the guys. We all kind of agreed. I think our shows better once a week. I think that it's i think it's fresher arisen. More fresh boy. sorry. I'm real bad with thank you fresh off a so listen going forward. I think you're gonna love it. Because i think the products gonna get better. I think it's gonna get improved. I think we're going to be able to do interviews right before the day of the show which changes in terms of banking interviews and how things can go stale so we love all of you guys. We appreciate your support in more than you'd ever understand realist- real realistically i promise you that. What two days a week at times. It was just a little too much. You know hockey's a weird game you need a little bit more time to digest the major stories and instead of boring you with some also stats that. We don't really want to get into ourselves because we don't know that much about you stick with one week one week period of nhl events in our lives and you go and we go at it and we have two two two and a half grade hours a week. So the sandbags are going to be getting bigger so we just want to say. Thank you and kind of explain why we will be going back to one episode a week. When you came on going to episodes a week was was an awesome idea. It was it was great and it really helped us grow. And then i think like any professional job you reach certain plateau toe and you can kind of figure out what's working what's not so go back to once a week and were excited guys. Were still learning. This is this is very new. And as i said the reason i spent so much time online. It's i. I try to read what the consumer wants. I going down to read the room a little bit and it just. We're not news. Breakers we kinda ingest everything that's going on and what people are saying and we are on it and more than anything we just wanna have fun and and get these awesome stories. These guys guys. We talked about one of the guests today. All alan walsh. We don't know a lot. About what how. The behind the scenes business aspect works and we got him on and he breaks a lot of things down to where we would never been able to increase. When you're asking me to do that type of stuff. I i sound like that that kid. There's a video on youtube. When he's i only a challenge like fucking minutes and then you got to try to listen to my opinion on something. I know nothing about so. We're just gonna ask the stories. We're gonna get great guests on. We're gonna have a ball and that is that. Is that summed up. Well gee i think also some side jamie the cut there. But it's tuesday's pretty much right after the weekend. Too and big stuff tends to happen on the weekends. At least you know news wise or like to wrap up the weekend and it's better to do that with a tuesday. Thursday episode is well done. We're going to be able to focus on all new things too. I think that's the emphasis. Here is all these sandbags are coming out. We have the animations to twitch channels. There's so many different avenues. We can take this brand. We're going to be able to do that now because of. Yeah like alan walsh. I gary bettman rife rowdy in winnipeg and then looking forward to you guys. Listen to this interview. And what else do we got matching training those two neighboring his on hitting the bag off business. The reason we're all hail the nhl and it's looking like we're to get a fifty fifty six game schedule. Looking to stop. Mid january january thirteenth is the date being bandied about There's going to be four. Divisions are going to be the all candidate division and then we got a little mix up from what they first reported. We've got boston buffalo new jersey. The island is range is. Let's see philly pittsburgh washington one division carolina columbia detroit chicago florida minnesota national tampa in another Anaheim arizona colorado dallas san. Jose saint louis van. I'm sorry vancouver. Vegas in the other So that's nice little wrinkle different than what we agreed camps could open it early as january third they might expand the roster a little bit given the situation with covid but bottom line is As tell tell shortly is the. Nhl owners try to squeeze a little bit more money in the players. Weren't gonna have it your. They essentially called their bluff. But either way. We're gonna have hockey soon enough boys with what say you wit. I just love seeing that. We have concrete. New news set make sense concrete news things that things that are now facts that we're getting a season now. I don't think many people or they shouldn't have worried about the whole season being cancelled. But i think it's gonna work out good. I know i know we talked about how. How is it going to go down. Even the first time with cova and the way it's increased now. There are certain question marks but just news as a hockey fan. That will be getting action soon enough. That we're going to have storylines. We're gonna have a stanley cup winner. And maybe at some point. We do have fans at the end if the vaccine out next year by june. Who knows. it's just positive news to know that we have action soon enough. The crazy thing is that that many games and that short amount of time with not that much time to get ready because who knows how people how guys flying in and traveling right now. There's certain question marks out there to really confuse you in terms of how camps go so you could see maybe injuries here there. We don't want to say that. But you know you get the body going you gotta get feeling luong. Can't just hop into these. These games groins. It'd be dollars my my one thing. I always happy to hear fifty six games not too much. I don't know how they're going to condense the schedule 'cause if they do do it like really tight wrapped and you probably will see the same amount of injuries. You would have seen in an eighty two game season but fifty six is perfect. I played or sorted you in a forty eight game season. Yes a half year lockout It was it was a sprint sprint. Right out of the gate. You gotta have a good start. You gotta sustain it. You gotta be rolling in the playoffs. So it's going be exciting hockey from the drop of the puck. There's always the upside of the fact that they're gonna start reintroducing fans which is the man if they ever get to back to one hundred percent capacity. We all know that playoffs with with fans is an electric factory but fifty six games. I would assume less injuries. We're gonna get the same type of playoffs given the circumstance of amick and on top of that the all canadian division and you're getting these different types of rivalries absolute twenty milligram fucking seattle. I'm hard as a rock right now. I i just think that the whole the whole thought process on the divisions and how it all broke down is crazy to me because colorado and tampa are going to just murder teams and i. It's crazy to see that the what's the division on the metro is the is the toughest division of the of the in the league. I would say right and it got even harder. You pretty much. What you're looking at so it's gonna be it's gonna be weird to watch how it all plays out. I love the all candidate thing. I think that those rivalries would be sick now. Here's what i'm wondering. And i'm sure they're they're on the ball will but you gotta think if a team's going into to place division opponent you got you should play two games right to assume games every time back back or i don't know series three and five days you can really limit how many times teams have to travel. I'm sure that will go down. But i i had. I had the idea. And i suspect they would do a biz but instead of four divisions i know everyone gets hung up on that go five divisions right have each division automatically get the playoffs and then the next eleven highest points and then see them one through sixteen in the nhl wacky things in the history as far as playoff history. We can just get any to fucking random teams like who off brain brain have. That would be unreal. My brain doesn't have the capacity to understand what you just broke down but if somebody some of you are listening things are. He's got a point. Let's roll it baby. Yeah let's get gary on him saying he's saying the coyotes could play vegas in the cup. Final yeah and they actually did see them. I want to say it was eight. One thousand nine hundred eighty. Maybe they state they ceded them one through sixteen for a couple years there so you had like the bruins vs kings the first round of the playoffs. You'll like crazy matchups that that would be that would be. I think that would make the playoffs. So i think the would explode the viewership. I think that'd be. Yeah that'd be such an x factor. I mean fuck it. If it's already going to be a different soda season you know. Fucking dive will feet right. I will likely mentioned. We reached out to agent. Al walsh to break down for a simple tins on the show. And maybe make it more in layman's terms for you guys. But i wanna mention that. This interview is brought to you by boy. Geese b. o. K. e. y. s. Boy he's makes the most delicious air dried beef called biltong think of a healthy version of jerky with thirty percent. More protein the buddy timothy stapleton is behind this venture. He's built on as often compared to a tender and flavorful slice of high end prostitute with ingredients that you can pronounce like red wine vinegar toasted coriander rosemary and salt and pepper biltong as a snack. You can count on the fill you up and not bring it down made in the united states with. 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He also runs a pretty robust twitter account at walsh. A thanks so much for joining us on the spit. Chiklis podcast. Alan walsh hawaii allen. I'm doing great how you guys doing. We're doing fantastic especially now. Looks like hockey's comment was simple as the owners didn't like what they signed back in the summer and wanted a bulletin on this whole thing. My personal opinion is gary bettman. Made a bet that by december or january the pandemic would be passed us. And we'd be able to put at least at the beginning of the season about twenty five percent capacity of fans into buildings and very soon thereafter moved to fifty percents. That was the thinking back. In june and july as the deal was being consummated. And my feeling is that gary for the first time in a long time may bet that didn't pan out We're in a situation now where the virus is out of control In north america Many cities are shut down the likelihood of having fans in buildings through the regular season until around may twenty twenty one is somewhat more and more remote which means we're looking at a worst-case scenario revenue for the nhl. Now when you look at what happened and then the report comes out that there's several owners who are like. I never even signed up for this. What did you think was the story behind that. Where some of those guys. Maybe didn't like it and it happened anyways or they actually didn't know what was the real numbers and what was actually going to go down as crazy as that may sound. I think a lot of people don't appreciate the dynamic that takes place on the league side. Gary is in executive committee of the board of governors which are eight owners The rest of the owners are very much out of the loop as to the progress of negotiations. Very little information is shared. How do i know because some of them are calling me asking me what i know and i was flabbergasted to get some of those calls so gary got these eight owners i don't know to what level he shares. What is going on a progress. Wise day to day. Week to week with his. I call them. The gang of eight was going to call him a cult. What do you call the cult. I call a beginning of aids and the gang of eight. I think is more informed than the other group larger group of owners. But i am not surprised at all that many owners did not actually know the contents of the agreement until the very last minute before being asked to ratify. And just quickly would you. Would you say that the grinch jeremy jacobs is the number one of the billionaires club. We're going to get wack he kinda he. He's easy running those eight guys would you say or is that you're not even willing to say that on record i'm not willing to say on record. Okay there we go go ahead. Well you've been through a lot of these lockouts obviously. This is a very different circumstance. Do you think it was completely unfair. That the fact that the way it was portrayed in the media as how they wanted to renegotiate where it was it was essentially being presented to something else. My own take on. It was a there was a deal. The deal was negotiated and ratified by both sides. The deal specifically took into account a worst case scenario for twenty twenty one a moderate case scenario revenue wise and a best case scenario and all the center scenarios were considered in coming to a final agreement. I don't think the nhl was really that intent on getting any real significant change to the deal. Why because we're only talking about a timing of payment issue. The owners are guaranteed in this deal to be made whole to the penny. They're getting their fifty fifty. People don't understand people are saying but the players are going to get their salaries and there's gonna be no revenue. Yes for one year. We are delinking off of fifty fifty. But an it's an important but as revenues recover and then as we get the new. Us tv deal that comes into play. The owners are going to be getting more than fifty fifty in the players will be getting less until both sides are equalized. Exactly fifty fifty. The only thing we don't know is it gonna take two years three years. Four years until both sides are equalized because only at that point. Will we see any meaningful rise of the upper limit for everyone at home listening those owners when you look a little different in the players are making their money even though there is no money coming in with the gate. I mean. those guys aren't making that deal unless they know they're they're being made whole however many years takes they're not stupid you know i couldn't have said it better myself right thank you. I appreciate that. I've been. I've been told that could be a lawyer at some point in my life. Man what did you have. I was gonna say on realistically. When's the next issue. Going gonna pop. It always seems like there's just one around the corner every time we cross one bridge. Why don't want to jinx anything but we have now a deal encompassing the next six years with an option for a seventh. So i'm hoping we have entered into a unprecedented period of labor peace. Were the focus can actually turn to growing the game. And if the focus goes there to growing the game. I think that you know we will soon. Within the next four five years be up around ninety million upper limit. Maybe even by the end of this may be touching almost one hundred million in upper limit which is means. The owners are making money will have a new tv deal. Revenue streaming deal Sports betting money coming off of the tracking devices. There's a whole bunch of pockets of revenue out there. They can be captured and money to talking about things that should be in. Could be done in europe so you think that the league is maybe moving a little bit too slow and a lot of other regards in the overall picture of the businesses. You said growing the game. It's a pretty vague comment. Do you mean more like the nba as well as far as like lifting these personalities up. If you could just. I mean if that was a fair question ask are absolutely. It might be a little bit before your time biz but When the new york rangers won the cup in one thousand nine hundred ninety four there was a famous cover of sports illustrated calling the nhl. The hot game in town and it's specifically said on the cover. The nhl is hot. The nba is not and at the time. The two leagues were fairly close to each other in overall league-wide revenue what happened all the momentum after the new york rangers won the stanley cup. Got shut down with gary bettman. Walking the players out to start the ninety four ninety five season lost half the season. It was a very acrimonious negotiation and it took several years for the nhl to recover from that. The the thing is though. I would argue in a sense that the price of the game is makes it so much more difficult like basketball just because of the amount of people that are playing. I know i know your points. And they're valid. It's just the games are so different. That i don't even really try thinking about Comparing the two. But when i look at or here you bring up the new tv deal. The us tv deal that will come. Are they going to be able to to use his negotiations. The tv networks that the viewership was actually down throughout the pandemic and that numbers went down. I don't know hawaii every sportsman that way since this all hit but will that end up hurting league at all. I don't think so you're you're one hundred percent correct ratings. Were down between forty and sixty one percents Whether we're talking about the rights holders in canada or the us with nbc. That's a huge number and Many of the other sports were down as well. Ten fifteen percent. Not as much hockey was playing a nontraditional calendar. No one had ever had hockey played in the summer months like that before you had five games a day on all kinds of different networks. I was searching usa network. Where is this game you know. I couldn't find it Yet to really hard sometimes to find a games you wanted to watch so. I don't think that experience is going to hurt the value of the rights going forward especially since i'm hearing and it's no great secret. There's been a lot of speculation on this. The last couple of years that there's going to be a carve out to the rights with. Espn getting a game but the week and maybe even some games in the playoffs as well that all to be worked out but getting hockey back on espn is going to just put so many more eyeballs on the nhl. You know i. I love the game. I believe it's a compelling game there is no greater game to watch live and and it's time to take hockey to the the nhl to the next level through rights through tv through a concerted effort to sell the players because they're the product. It's easy for us to rip batman but to his defense. You mentioned the new york rangers. After they won the cup. I think the forbes valuations just came out of what the team values where they came in at t at the top at one point six five leaves for at one point five. I believe montreal's just south of that one point three five like what. Good things that he's done for the game and other things that he's opened up to the players as far as growing revenues. And this and that that you believe that that he should get credit for. You asked me that question. I'd be like hey wit. Tell me the great things about rigs sandbag inside. I'm a bit. But i mean he's had to have done some things properly in order to grow it and they're not one or a few things positive that you can say about him. I been a fairly vocal critic of of gary batman for many many years unsure. You not shocked to hear it. I think he's done a excellent job. Representing is constituency of owners for he. What people need to remember is that gary was the godfather of the salary cap in the nba. He was david stern's number. Two man. Bruce mcnall as owner the la kings wenping met with david stern back in nineteen ninety nine hundred ninety two and begged david stern to come to the nhl as its first commissioner. Here is the first commissioner in the history of the nhl. Before gary it was just a president but they wanted a commissioner and they wanted someone with stature and they wanted somebody come in and bring a salary. Cap the nhl. David stern said. Look i've got a great gig here of the nba. My gary batman will be perfect for you. He's ready and it was on. David stern's recommendation that bruce mcnall came back to the other owners and said i found the guy who who who we need higher as first commissioner of the nhl and gary had one mandate came on board in in in one thousand nine hundred ninety three and that was to set up a salary cap in nineteen ninety four set up a salary cap and get that implemented asap and it didn't work out for him in ninety five and he learned a lot from that experience but when he got the two thousand four gary was determined to get a salary cap and before the lockout started. I believe he had buy in from the owners to burning ear. Because gary told the owners you guys wanna cap all deliver a cap. The only way. We're getting a cap as if we burn a year. That's what it's gonna take to crush the players. And he was right. He was right looking back at that time. Oh sorry. I didn't mean to you know. Go ahead no. I was at that time. That's when i came into the league. And right i remember how How some some guys. We can't have a cap. We can't have a cap. I remember thinking that'd be awesome. But is there any chance that they're not going to get what they want. It was once you knew the year was done. It was like they'll probably do another year. They don't care this is this. Isn't there number one source of revenue for these billionaires. I just thought there was never a chance. It wouldn't be when they really decided here. Here's the thing ryan bob. Good now. read the room correctly and he read the situation correctly before the lockout started. Because i remember. I was there fact around two thousand two bob went around on the fall. Tour met with every team and starting in two thousand and two. He was saying guys. Save your money. Put your money away. We are going to be locked out in two thousand four and it's going to go. Eighteen months did players are going to have to stay united for eighteen months. The owners of decided bernie a year. And the only way we're going to withstand this attack and come out without a cap is to win win. The first year is gone. And there's no negotiations again until december of the following year and looking and the owners are looking at canceling a second season. That's what we can make the deal without a gap was right. You believe that you believe if they held until then they would have got no cap on why. I'm convinced that i guarantee it guarantee it. Every owner was in for one year. No one was in for two years and yary bettman told the owners. The players will not stick together for a second year. He was right. What did you make of. Would you say they were holding the olympics hostage to the players to see what they can get what they wanted. Is that a fair assessment. I think the to me the olympics has always been an overblown issue. How players actually go to the olympics. All the play. If you took a vote of the players they all wanna go. They all are in favor of the nhl going but in my mind it exactly if you're not going it's even better badly that vacation you know. Are you willing to sell. you know. You're you're you're you're economic livelihood in the future down the road. For those twelve days in hawaii the olympics are as as beneficial or even more beneficial to the league and the owners who are getting their product their game their best players showcased on the international stage for free. You know it's it's it's it's it's go ahead. I was going to say but but looking to the other way. I always feel it. They're using the nhl product. And i know in in In basketball in the summer olympics. That may not work this way. But they're looking at like we're shutting down our business so you can use our products and that's probably in the winter olympics. The most watched thing that be fairly accurate to say. Why should the league also be able to better benefit off. Maybe some of the tv rights of that in order to like compensate. Everyone for what's going on. And that's kind of playing devil's advocate again with with the whole hostage situation of the olympics but you mentioned earlier to growing the league you mentioned europe. Was that kind of like in that. Whole realm of what you were talking about. Yeah but i think the nhl's european strategy and and and non north american strategy has been a joke. What do they do you. Go over to sweden go over. To finland gordon czech republic played you games and then come back and disappear a strategy. That's not a way to to really build a basis support. They did the same thing in china. Couple of nhl teams went over to china. Play a couple of games and they haven't been back since what is that you need. You need to lay seeds. A grass roots level and and there is no it. Anyone said to people working in the nhl. Please tell us what your global strategy is. You would hear crickets over play a couple of games. That's not a strategy and intil and to me it is. I mean london berlin paris. You know there's there's huge markets out there that would embrace. Nhl if they just try to sell the game in those areas yeah. The nhl never had that dream team moment that you know basketball did back ninety two jordan and berta magic we. I don't know why we haven't we. Certainly have you know commensurate superstars. But we just can't get to that level What i what i wanna ask. It looks looks like we're gonna have a fifty six game slate this year mid-january start of the players. That you talked to generally fine with that setup sofa. Sure i mean every player i talk to wants to play as many games as possible and whether it's fifty six or fifty two as as many as possible. Look it's not ideal. This is going to be a very difficult year Everyone's concerned that the players and staff and everyone involved in putting on games can remain healthy and We can start the season and not have to stop the season and make it through to the end And i think you wanna talk about gary bettman and hats off to the nhl I had personally. And i'll admit admitted a lot of doubts about the bubble concept and whether it would work whether we'd have a bunch of positive tests once players got into the bubbles and they pulled it off and really it's a remarkable feat not one positive tests after got into the bubbles in the city's remarkable and i trust that whatever logistics are when both sides worked together as they did to finish the nineteen twenty season when both sides work together. They can figure these things out. And and i think for all of us. The most important thing is that we start the season sometime in january or no later than february one but that we end the season two. I was going to hop in here. And just ask you. You're you're for. Sure the most vocal agent on twitter as far as hockey's concern you love and represent your players better than anyone. The whole flurry situation was that just. Because you've been with for so long. There was so much emotion attached to it to where you decided to cook up this on your own. I don't know if you outsourced it. And you drop this thing in the midst of playoffs absolute fucking and thank you for the entertainment by the way what that old situation breakdown. Okay so you really want to ask that question. Since the moment i came on. That's why i wanted you. You're so much smarter and all this stuff that we are. And i'm learning a lot. What alan big job. I want that painting above my bed with all due respect guys that i know that it may seem like a cop out right now. I prefer not to get into any in-depth discussion on that. Let me just you had a bottle. Opus celebrating the billion dollars in contracts. You have and you're a little ticked off flurry with those gorgeous. T who's made a lot of saves and those yellow pads was maybe getting the short end of the stick. And hey let's just chalk it up to that buddy. But hey you got the internet pop and as you as you always do do. Have you ever like walked in a room with gary like clear animosity. There is obviously. There's been a bit of hatred or is it strictly business. It's strictly business. I've always said when when. I mean if i were hypothetically speaking of course because it would never happen if i were working for the league right a lot of what i'm saying now and what gary and people with the league are saying i would be saying what they're saying and if gary were an agent or working at the nhl a he'd be saying what dog fear says right so it's really not ever personal. It's really just a matter of you know. This is the side that i'm on. I've i wanted to be on this side since i was a kid. I've always been a player's guy for my earliest memory. I never cheered for john. Ziegler clarence campbell. I always was a player's guy. And i ended up pursuing that passion to to represent players. But who knows you know. I wasn't planning to become a prosecutor. It happened right out of law school. You know i may have taken a wrong turn at albuquerque at a back then and gone and worked for the league or going to work for shit. A maiden name's kazillionaire. Did you may miss jamaica. Did you make the meam while she give me something for fuck sake like this guy that good of an artist or is he. Like this outsourcing it. You mentioned quickly. Though you you were a prosecutor you went from montreal and then you went out to la you working for the district attorney out there at any point at that time. Did you think there was a chance you'd be back in hockey or were you so in love with the game like you mentioned that the whole time you only work towards that. I would to law school in l. A. with the idea that out of law school i would work in hockey in some capacity and i had no idea what i never really thought about even becoming an agent and in my last year of law school i started an externships at the. Da's office in the state of california very unique A law student with two years of law school done could actually make appearances in court as long as they have a licensed attorney sitting next to them. So i was going down in my third year of law school and running a preliminary hearing court doing preliminary hearings on my own with a experienced thirty year plus prosecutors sitting next to me reading the la diamonds. And i was doing robberies and burglaries and possession of cocaine for sale and solve a deadly weapons felon with guns attempted murder. And and i was like i'm in court. I'm arguing these cases before a judge. I'm still my third year law school. This is amazing. And i really fell in love with that. Work became a prosecutor and ended up staying in the office for five years. But over the course of those five years i worked for four of those years. A unit called the hard core gang division and the only thing i did for four years. We're gang murder cases one. After the other and i prosecuted forty and i was twenty nine turning thirty years of age. I just done my fortieth murder case. And i was ready to move onto something else. You only have so many trials in you. You only have the ability to go through living in trial for so long. And i was ready to move on and i was determined to to go work at hockey in some capacity nan. I actually read a article at one point. You were the youngest lawyer to ever try a murder case in the state of california which is wild and the second thing is if forty cases where you forty and all flurry a deal you get your check. Let's murder cases. I was i was i was. I was thirty nine and one and that one case. I don't know what you can't talk about. What did any point throat that case you. You figured i don't know if i have this one locked up like was it early on. I remember feeling midway through the case that it probably shouldn't have been filed at to do with the the quality of the i witnesses all of my eye. Witnesses were in state prison and all of them had multiple felonies so we were bringing witnesses. I would of the locked up in an orange jumpsuit. Shane legs ankles chained together. Yeah tough luck for all your witnesses and saw the shooting and they were members. Is there no states or am. I making up that. Even if that were the case some some states would have them in a suit. You could dress up a witness defendant. Yeah i see what you're saying. So so you know for murder cases very rare to have a descendant out on bail the o. J. simpson is one of the most famous examples. But he would be an lockup wearing blue or orange he would come out to the courtroom and the cameras would be on. He was always wearing a suit and a tie Shifting back to some of your career. Highlights i mean you represent so many star players. We mentioned marc andre fleury. Maybe mentioned a few of the highlights like things that really stick out. Since you joining hockey maybe cup ceremonies or moments for for for certain guys just highlight a few for us. I mean with with flower. The i remember his first game in the nhl and the funny thing is mario lemieux. Was there right in the room and flower was really nervous and the guys told me after the game that flurry had jumped out of his chair and was running started running down the runway towards the ice in morrow yeldham flurry flurry and he turns around and flurries. Like yeah he's like you forgot your stick and flurries. Oh and he had to run back and get his stick was about to go out on the ice without it. There's there's so many stories guys you know Martin lot he and i you know. It was a lifetime of brotherhood together. Ups and downs great moments. Patrick eliash pasco que- okay. Just one of the greats super-duper duprey. I had the chance of playing with him. I was on that team that brought over hosa and pascal dupuis and he told me. If i'm wrong i mean he was kinda thought of as a throw in on that deal. You know hosa was the big name and at the deadline and what a career ended up. Having i mean he just to be a stanley cup champion and do what he didn't pittsburgh. Was he fired up when that trade happened and and ready for a new spot or did he like being in atlanta. Not that many people dead so know. Pascal depre- when one of the super-duper one of the great great player teammates. One of the i was with pascal time he was eighteen years old Meeting his wife having kids you you spend your whole big partyer life with them off the ice you limit with them and and just to me the most rewarding thing mike rob you know mike rupp i represented for a number years still Very close with him You you really become part of a family really do and To me the most gratifying thing is after a player has retired to maintain that relationship beyond being agent and player and how the strength of bond carries on into the next phase of the players. Life where you know. On any given day i have as many conversations with retired players who were clients of mine for eighteen. Twenty twenty twenty. Five years as i do players currently in the league right now go. I got one loss of why. Why did you choose. L. a. philosophy your big. La lafayette at the time. It's a great question. I was going to begin university in montreal. I was born and raised in montreal. My mother was an american citizen. So when i was really young me and my younger brothers all guide. Us sports as well so the us was open to all of us. And i was actually heading to law school on the east coast. And it was a february day in montreal. It was snowing like crazy and driving my camaro with no snow tires up. Mctavish going straight up in this storm. I made it halfway up the street next to mcgill and the car halfway up and hit black ice and started sliding backwards. I was able to get it just over by. The sidewalk. Dumped the car Trucks loose snow to class ended up taking the metro and a bus home and the next day. My dad drove me back to my car with a shovel. And the only thing you could see was the antenna from the car. It was completely bare. And and at that time. I god a calendar from law school in la and had this really good looking blond in a bikini on the beach reading a law book. And i looked at that picture. I looked outside. I laughed and i said craig one. That's where i wanna go. I was going to finish up with just from your answer before. It's obvious why you you go online and you stick your players. You truly love these. These last question. I have for you before we leave. All you fucking put my mind into a torpedo when you talk about. The state tax issue and saying that players who play in canada with filing taxes properly would pay the same taxes someone playing in a state with no state tax allen. Wash out of possible while. There's something in canada called a retirement compensation agreement where a player can defer up to fifty percent a what he is earning a given year. That money is going into a fifty percent into a refundable tax account with cra and fifty percent into a self directed account player. Can touch the money okay now. Every year fifty percent they pay normal tax fifty percent no tax it all it goes into these accounts and they're invested and they grow over time all tax free whenever the player wants to collapse these accounts they have to break all ties with canada. Okay so they break all their ties with candid up. It could be in the us. It could be anywhere else. So a lot of europeans have our as a lot of american players playing in canada. Rca's and any canadian player can have an rca as long as they're willing to break all ties with canada for eighteen to twenty four months. It's all you gotta do. Seems the gun talk. Risk those separate man canada's canada's the ship. Juniors is very well known player from czech republic who played years with the ottawa senators and the toronto maple leafs and he had. Rca with many millions of dollars in there and rent was done when he was done in the nhl. We actually moved with his family to barbados for two years and for two years. He's sending me pictures on the beach. You know with a corona. And i'm like oh my god and during that two year period he had broken all his ties to canada. He collapsed the rca. When you collapse the way you play you pay a flat twenty five percent tax and you get all your money. It happens fast. That happens quick. And after you get your money you can move back to capital. That's a great way to end this thing because that's breaking news to a couple of people that may help some canadian team signs and free agents. You know a guy. Who's like i'll i'll cut all my ties with mike and mike at a top four defenceman allen. Thank you so much. It's a much appreciate you coming on a lot of fun catching up with you having you on and getting your insights into the league. So we appreciate it. It's a privilege guys. thank you so much. A huge thanks so much joining us in translating for the layman terminology. That sometimes guys like us you guys were in the league guy. Cover the league. it gets boring. I could see the docking about memorandum's in escrow and all that kind of shit. So alan basically gave his perspective on it and it's always appreciate it will have to have him back. He's colorful fella apis her. You put me on the spot. There wasn't ready. Yes he was august. Be to be ready on this. Show our china spot to those along. I was trying to pump gary tires and he just wouldn't really do and you're trying to get a kid killing flurry. I couldn't believe he didn't talk about thirty. I thought he was to take us back. Like a national enquirer journalist guys. We're not gonna grill you on this podcast. We will ask the difficult questions. You will not really you go all right. We got a few any notes. Not a ton went on since last at but Fly assigned restricted free agent defenseman phil mayes to a three seven point. Six five million dollar deal comes out to two point. Five mill salary cap it. He's going to be twenty four in january. He appears to be a key philadelphia future on the back. Nine four goals twelve assistant fifty game last season as a former defense. In which your take on this fella. I like them young gun. I shouldn't say gun but still solid right. I mean the guy moves around like silk philly by the way showed them for being the team. You you could. You could've made the most money on last year. Betting on them against the spread. Is that correct. Did you see that. All meyer said something to do with that so when you guys at a young age to deals that right away kind of seem like team friendly deal like sergachev right like it was higher than this. But you're like oh he could get more this kid of us a ufa. The way he's look so far i think he'd he'd be getting a ton of interest but right now phillies able to lock a guy up at not a ridiculous amount to just keep kind of adding to like young depth on the blue line. There and provorov is something else so you got a leader. That's real young to take this This might be a crazy question coming from a guy who sosa stuff gossip spare. What happened did he get injured last year. How the he's just had a couple years where after he blew up offensively when he came into the league defensively he struggled. I think they say he turns it over at times. Where he's you know. He's getting healthy. Stretch at one point. I saw that. Yeah so it's it's. It's the curtain. Maybe like maybe a little bit like myself came in with little offensive. Bang next thing in all. This guy's got way more skill and he's way faster than i ever was so i still think he's got that heavy shot. He's got amazing ability hop into the play but in terms of like what you read When coaches are complaining. Its defensive stuff. But i would say just philly probably one of the more interesting teams moving forward. I'd say fairly short window. Like i mean you know. He's getting to that age for shadow older. I went the thing is though they have. They have young guys too and the goalie so young so the backbone that you need to to get it done right guy that like has booked all things considered as much. We've seen heart. He's looked like a guy who could win a stanley cup right. So you're you have him at at as young as he ever see. Goal is dominate. So like you don't want to say the windows causing but those those top level guys who didn't really perform in last year's playoffs in jerusalem and stuff in his playoff struggles. Those guys are are. You're you're older. And i'd say colorado's extended that window right now. I mean he's been so good so soon. He was outstanding in the playoffs last year. So those guys they're they're windows gonna extend. Because i kid. As far as gospel he could be just a simple of the play like a change of scenery. Might just be what he needs for. Whatever reason things haven't worked out the last couple of years form whether it's usage confidence whatever. He could end up somewhere in being just fine and another team butter percent. But i believe that it's going to be difficult given the circumstances to move that contract because he did sign. I wanna say at least four year deal at a decent average annual salary excited shack right now like guessing has gone. I think i think making five million a year. He's got three years left. A four and a half million. There you go. That's like what are you medically close. Yeah same ballpark. I know my. I know my stuff kinda if you if you're a college hockey fan. You might remember shane. Goss's spare playing for union. Believe it's union college and biz. Maybe one of the sickest performances in a final four over this guy was ghost. use a machine in college. What a nickname. To perfect mony failed to florida. They're going to have what's going to be referred to as e goaltending excellence. Depa love. I love the shoot for the moon there with that name. It's gonna be roberta longo. Who yes we hear you please. We'd love to have on the show as well Francois olivia rob tallus form. Nhl netminder and lille longo roberto's brother they're going to be basically the goaltending. Excellence department. What do you think of that name. This i just. I'm just glad roberto longo. Not coming over the podcast. Seriously fucking guy says. I can do anything he wants and i like the move. I mean i talk about sean burke all time because that was like my one. Main experience playing five years in phoenix or phoenix arizona. Coyotes what he was able to do. Just what the mental side with scala than mike smith than nick You know. I mean even more recently with corey. Schwab here with with the wake with kemper. How it worked out. We'll take upper brodsky. A guy they're paying a lot of money who. I think probably needs a little bit of help right now and in finding his game again and what a perfect guy to bring in not only to help morowski but also they do have a young guy in the pipeline. They drafted in the first round. Spencer night spencer night so great move. Obviously roberto longo made enough in his career to where he probably wants to stay in florida and and work closely with the organization. That's given them a lot of what he's achieved and vice versa. By this is this going to work out better for an organization that needs a little bit of help in that department right now and just an even more unique individual take that role now playing the other side of it. It is like four guys right. Who all know what they're talking about. I mean at some point. It's like they all agree on everything so it is. It is not often you see like a four man team for for two guys now. I guess you could argue. You're talking about the h. o. Goal is in the prospects as well. So it's an entire organization thing but you have to think that there's going to be one main guy working with bobrovsky right. I mean one or two but get all four all of a sudden. It's like one goal is with all these coaches like what the fuck is going on. They should just sign you in. Have you go skate. And just the confidence. You would four one time. They'd be bring biz. Nine thousand saves in a row. Wasn't sean burke. It was all a all those times in practice. Feed them right in the gut. Come in dust off my my lex. Awhile hey boys. We've noticed coworkers down new york city. They've been all over this three cheese stuff for months now that the chicken screw has been about trauma we know why everybody in new york has been raging about them. Because they're so good case may three g is the industry leader. 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I didn't know if i said this when we record last week or if i if it was in just our conversation but you can't go one and eight. You know what. I mean all of us if you start to to eight and two. It's like man you. You're running out of time. Quick to make the playoffs. So that's what. I was talking about in terms of being a sprint zuccarello. He's just proven how long he's able to stay and play well in this league. And he's not fastest player in the world. He's really quick and he's got such a hockey. Iq he's able to think the game so well. But i wouldn't. I wouldn't think of him as like a game-breaker speed-wise ever really i don't know about yuba if you disagree with me on that just coming down like burn people wide. This is a very smart player. Kinda like i mean. Messy might be a tough comparison but just kind of soccer player ever. Yeah just with alex who even with that and we cannot. We cannot mention mats zuccarello without obviously always bringing up the greatest imitation of all time. Patrick thoresen imitating mats zuccarello. Get it on youtube right now. Because he sticks forty three feet long and his hairs coming back. And he's hopping around the way. Zuccarello did as business grab. He's maradonna and all that he just right right p. but he's he's today live. Just fuck in rippin rails balancing balls shoulder the whole head the whole eight documentary on. Hbo by the way. If you haven't seen it about marriage with it just donner okay commodity. It's good shit is as i saw. I saw remember the name of it. No i the part where the part when he shows up is at napoli the whole stadiums full just for him to walk in there when he got thirty wasn't even for practice. I don't think yeah absolutely. There's a clip online. God is is it is it. Liam gallagher the lead singer of. Yeah no only the two of them. He tells the story in the clips on on twitter. It's buzzing around. I ended up re tweeting it. But you can't you could barely understand. Twenty five percent of what. The sky says because he's from manchester. He's our he's from england and they just had this very rough english accent but you got to hear the way. He describes the one time he met. Meredov say myrdal maradonna diego. Donna describes the first time we met him. And it's like it's world classic. He went up just to get a picture and he said if you take any of the girls with you he's going to basically kill you. Sorry would it. Till the he that people watch the super bowl two hundred million or something. It seems like a lot. I would say world. I mean worldwide on north america worldwide. Be your guess. I would say my guess was two hundred million. I would say worldwide. Probably five hundred million worldwide. Okay i'm pretty sure. Worldwide like over a billion people watch the world cup final so like there's people in the united states and canada who like dog soccer aren't fans whatever no big deal but it is the sickest game in the world when you actually watch these high level teams the world cup like the euro. I i'm so into it and the The guy who just got to barstool is electric grenell. Is it troops troops. He does those live artist and he was like he's talking about some guys like fucking guys more goals than than our team does now granted with his english accent. You can't imagine how much better it is than the line. I just tried to save repeating him so check back i opened. Soccer is where it's at because those guys are the biggest superstars they are rockstars and athletes all rolled into one. Raf we had to pick a team podcast and the soccer world. Who would we have to pick. I would probably have no say in it. I kind of hear what everyone had to say and agree to something. i'd wanna premier. League team are a percent. I don't follow it enough. Nearly two to know who would be a good team but i. I definitely talk on sports. I didn't grow up with. It wasn't big. Would in the city back in the day and i didn't actually game so i was right for the school newspaper college and had a cover college women's game and i sat out a couple players. I'm like you know. explain to me. And they basically. It's just like hockey. It's like you bet he trying to score on a goal and you don't want to be off sides like conceptually. It's very huge similarities. I've always said that couldn't agree on wolverhampton. Wolverhampton has the funding channels chelsea wolverhampton. Dirtbag teams from like these greasy towns. Where if you stroll down and they'd stabbed you hundred percent wolf hampton the one getting stabbed if we went hispan- alameda team. I need a team with the luxury boxes. The sit in with the flat screens in the buffets. Have you guys. I wanna be i wanna be fucking drinking drinking whatever english beer out of guys man tits in the fucking front row the degenerate sector. And that's where i wanna to be in when the soccer world Fuck me well back in the world. The hockey apparently vagus. He's shopping some players. Which isn't too big of a surprise. They are at their salary. Cap needs a probably mussa guys just to get Cap compliant for the year. But we i hear in max batch. You're ready alec. Martinez mckendry flurry jonathan. Macho those names being put out there. We're not putting them out there. Other parties have would just pass them along biz league up buddy. You were very critical when they started making some moves of basie how they've they've established themselves as a very cut throat organization where it's like. We're making the right play to move our to win. Excuse me and now all of a sudden like to fairly significant pieces are all these guys around the blocks like who wants them. Yeah it's just it's it's a way different time and team in that first year where it was all these unwanted guys banding together got together for that amazing cup run now. It's just you're in you're out. They've signed some great players. They've made some great trades that this is what happens so there's really no stability there right. I mean you can talk about teams making moves that when cops but there's been the stability core of crosby malcolm flurry in pittsburgh and chicago keith. And whereas vegas is just them wanna cop so it's way different but they've just been shipping them out bringing them in going back to the names. If you're a boston bruins fan and you find out max. Pacioretty is available. You're immediately trying to think of. What can we offer. What kind of package can we put together. Can we fit his salary and Dude a winger or you can score that many goals and play the eye. And he's a bruins type player. I would there be an unreal. Move for them to try to get him. Oh my god. Ra the fact that you tied that back to the bruins a team that you talk about other winger right for h. E. the listen. They stayed pretty patient during the free agency period. They say patient. They lost their best defenseman right but they stayed patient to where they thought. Maybe maybe an opportunity like this was the reason that they couldn't get over the hump for fuck sakes with. Are you arguing me a meeting a trip that you're got what three years left at seven million per the bruins. They're they only got a little less than three million in cap space. They'd have to move some money. Give give the nights. They can deal with flurry to harass and robert walls. Come on you should ask them about that potential beauty. Let's see what we've got. All this is from our friend. Geoff merrick and the east coast hockey league. He said expect the league to announce that the cincinnati cyclones idaho steelheads in kalamazoo wings will play the season obviously ramifications of all that covert shed. So it's tough to seek because there's obviously a ripple effect is out work in jobs and they have to take up jobs which means other people can't work so obviously sucks to see we know vaccine is coming. Hopefully i'll get here sooner and these guys can get back to work. Everybody can get back to work Either way i next guest. He did make his bones in the east coast. Hockey league on his way to the nhl glenn metropolitan unreal story. We're going to get that one sec. We want to tell you. I that his interview is brought to you by cross country mortgage america's crazy good mortgage company will make it easier to get the financing. You need fast lens. Dot com slash. Nbd tower and more about your future home buying or refinancing experience and mls three zero to nine equal housing opportunity. And now we're going to send it over to glenn metropolitan next guest to the show. This forward incredible odds to play pro hockey for twenty two years. Despite never playing junior college ever be drafted. He'd go on to play over four hundred any jogging for seven franchises. After his any joker he went over to europe and played well into his forties and he was recently inducted into the east coast. Hockey league hall of fame. Thanks so much for joining us. Glenn metropolit- going bell in. Well guys. thanks good tamp. Down there for actually moved here last august. I with my son here. Play get back into hockey and Momentum volunteer beautiful pandemic on hit us but says that doing okay don't of connor. Some coach down there correct. Yeah down with the tampa bay lightning and doing some learning programs in coaching a few teams during the player development It's been great to get a ring. Todd it'll be a plastic one. It's just like the one you can get any store got cup coming up the river through the did you see maroon piss himself. I saw him at the at the stadium. But those guys were there in one while it's great to finally on here. I got a chance to meet you quick few years back in boston. You're good friends with our boy brandon. Yeah who spent on the show people love him but when did you guys i play because he told me you gotta get metro on at some point. He's got stories for days. Guy played forever. Roy boy he came over at mannheim together. Jeff ward was coaching win a championship theory. Came i forget. His whole why got over it got released or whatever butter Late signing came over. We had a great time game over the with liz. At the time we wanted to come together and just had a blast man just break salty earth you know he said mannheim was actually crazy when you guys took it down the whole town. The city was just going not they call it hockey town. Germany cell really read ownership. The crowds are amazing. You know the whole one end of the building. Just chanting all the time right. So was enjoyable. It'd be a part of that run. That's for sure said two years there was say we just mentioned tampa. That's twenty many. Many hockey hockey stops metro. It start at the beginning. I mean like. I said you were never played junior. Never drafted never college. Where you discovered was that that roller hockey league is that really where it all took off. Willia- why i had to play here or someone either the summer but it's go going back You know grownup intercity. Ronal planet house leaks there. That were free by the city. Moss park region park area from there just kind of played. Where could i wasn't raised by single. Mom didn't really have the funds. The plano's high level leagues and quite frankly. I don't think it was co chose to rye. New play knows leagues basically high school hockey. A good friend of mine had a trial was kind of like the top player get recruited for the junior b team richmond hill. And we can give it a try. You know and i'm like well. How am i gonna get there. He luckily he drove so off. I went over. The last cut on junior team in the rest is history two years there and then you know turning nineteen all my buddies now are done with party in like. Get over charnel. So we're not to british columbia vernon chased. The scholarship got recruited by lot of schools. Sign a letter of intent with the bull green That fell through in the summer. Basically year-ago east coast hockey league tryouts and roller hockey. December makes them cash in kip building holding kept growing so at that point it was just too late to go. Go play junior hockey or you were just old enough where it was time to play pro. Yeah that's how i was twenty. I finished my last in vernon where sign a letter of intent with the buddy powers. Coach there at the falcons and then summertime came around in a years round toronto right not working hard school. It's not like a school. He knows more or less just credit you know pass in so i had to be a redshirt for a year. Then finally shit up you know. I wanna play hockey. I don't sit around for a year just train and we'll even getting to. There's a long shot for anyone but for you. It's crazy. Because i mean from talking to people. I region parks tougher to live. And you did a lot of your your skating. The beginning an outdoor rink is that true like summer. You're playing roller hockey winter. You're playing you're playing outdoors right right somewhere close to where you could even mom could see you. Is that true from from the kitchen. Window treatments was deals. Where with all the noise outside of my the life there little bit like let me. Just disconnect. I fell in love the game and it wasn't hockey schools in the summer to hockey's Power skate news. More just have you always got these little games on outdoor rinks. Sorry just kind of get your own game trying to around the you know the other people. Just one of those deals. How just kind of leave you think having a late start to where maybe the pressure was. Never really there helped you. you know. Essentially like like strive for later on in life. You said nineteen years old. You go off to junior for the first time. That's really the first time you've had any type of pressure. Playing right as i reflect to now is visits more more or less i just i played at the lower levels but it wasn't like i was a first line playing aaa hockey. Where you're not really. You're not playing much use. Those moves in once. I got higher level. I can adjusted speed and i think ultimately that kind of helped me a little bit as in a summertime. I just wanted to keep working out running hills at riverdale. Whatever i could to become a better hockey player to get onto the life i was living are always wanted to be occupied. So it was like model mentality was like i'm gonna get discovered. Somehow i know as good as those guys. It's just keep grinding in kind of all a hat so in a case for for office like in the summertime coup you be training with would you just be falling bodies an ongoing wherever while yet grow. I remember one time watching. Cnn doug gilmour the christie pets play. Baseball and dougie jew is running up. This guy's run up the hills. Matt's doug gilmour. You know john maple leafs the great maple believe now mike. I'm going to do that. So i just kind of i saw him. And then you got my mentors. Were the guys at work dead. You'll boys and girls clubs. You know the parks and recreation centers. You know those are the guys that kind of kept us all straight narrow and kinda just taught me you work on your legs core. You know what. I mean like the guys that nfl trainers and nothing was just pushing till you can't push no more on your own knitted. The thing is too. You're just you're playing other sports like you mentioned you're playing baseball. I mean. I think we've talked a long time to plenty of players but it's great to do other things and not not just skate all year. But with your with your situation. I mean we talk about how expensive hockey is and so many kids can't even get into the game. I mean if you hadn't lived right next door to that rank maybe you don't but when was the first time you you actually got a pair of skates that weren't like a hand me down or use it when you got your own new pair of wheels. It had to be later than most kids playing hockey. Yeah i mean. We're we're talking teens. Maybe julia unbelievable some great people that helped along the way and you know just with dami downs. No haven't one still can take slapshots. You've got one sticks owes. it was urgent. Just play in our stand for any skates or even have had steel. You you'll came routes. It didn't matter and it was a we'll have the love for the game was just give me out there. And let's play noble in the gloves. Whatever marshawn still does that. Little rat natural grownup did i feel kinda symbol like you put in boston. You familiar with charleston neighbor. I feel like there's a lot of a lot of similarities. There a little rough around the edges. Tough spot that grow up a lot of temptations. How are you able to just focus on on hockey and keep down the straight narrow. When there's so many other ways you could be derailed. The spot like that. I think really. I kind of learned from cnn. Or i knew. I didn't want to be a part of that. You know what i mean. They wanna get that quick money and all that stuff will come. We're doing just add my set on being a professional hockey player wherever that could be you know those my goal in at the time it was just work hard to get out of that. I knew i didn't want to be like that. So there's too much too much negative stuff that you'd be lured seeing your dad not me so you know you go out and you think you might have this deal bowling green. You're going to go to university. Everything's good boomer falls apart and you said you gotta go to the coast while i mean you hopton you you dominate. I mean yet over a point per game your first year pro hot even come about playing in nashville and then and then atlanta and a little bit the iho that you're like. How did that whole season contract. Come come to be while. I after after the scholarship fell through. I decided on roy. Called a mild assistant. Coach troy mic divert lakers at the time and Musicale get your chart with Atlanta blended nights at the time and I'm like all right. Let's go so i went. There wanted i gotcha nose plan against old old school guy. Shenault got got. Sent down to nashville. East coast. hockey league signed a minimum in the east gauche apartment and make it four hundred bucks a week in from their resist. I remember being the first five or six games. The road big road trip down tallahassee playing tag rashad's we're bringing his whole crew team right. We have bunk beds on his country. Music up up to the front sleep with their bus driver needs snake with cutoffs sleeping on the stairs area. Just guy this progress yes man. It can't get in the lineup. So i think the coast makes you appreciate it more when you end up getting to the nhl some of the stories and some of the hotels you're sleeping and even some of the travel arrangements like do you have any other wacky stories. It you remember from your coast days and it's you're so many i mean the great thing was to sixteen bucks per diem. You no doubt solely At truck stops but on your the story that creature mind is that raw tobacco. Blessed relief relieving wheeling got a long trip. Back down to nashville. It's a new year's eve. We're kinda we finished our game. We're all the vacuum cleaner cards. Guys are drinking here york and if you guys remember hair york kid all saint louis. Blue us a teammate. At the time went crazy the next day it's not. He pushes the the rate onto the plastic. Was flying off. Cars chasing us pulled over. All sitting there geyser smoking tobacco the launch. An accident tupper hockey the type of stuff. You're really not seeing nowadays member on the east coast hockey league guys literally vacillated up before the games cut new jersey so again a fighting other polling it thursday empty arms. You know the the free arm salt or quite dirty boys. yeah absolutely. I mentioned hall of fame by the way. Congratulations on that. Get into the east grows policy. And that's quite an honor for you should prize had been twenty three years since you played. We kind of surprised to get a call all those years later that you've made it was just one of the surprise calls. I got an email. I believe in followed call. Wichita went their vision of these coast back he was like. Where's this going to be at the the hall in parking lot or what you did. First class kevin law. He did the keynote. You get up there. It was awesome. Bednarik there on Bednarik with him off the other guys who said it was such a great experience and get. Have my family here with me. It was a with abolish. My mom and my kids saw was awesome. Great spirits froze up up there actually like wall looking at all these people. You wanna thank. Everyone entirely was just do. Go do go up. There was something written or are you going up there. Straight the heart. Why anselm something written. But basically i turn in the didn't hurt and they said okay. Thank me they're like We we had seven minutes for you. You gotta keep going q. And aim stops. It was a great. What was your heart rate out. When you when you went up there in front of the mike buck seventy all the fuck. These guys do it. They just go there and start ripping off man. I'd be shitting. My pants had to do a wedding last summer. And i completely butchered the beginning of it. I felt bad. I wanted to leave right afterward or regenerated men in black. That's within ninety nine. Two thousand caps now is it. True your first. Nhl game you first linemates. Adam oates in pita broncos that is that accurate boy genreal mojo during the fire. Hey togo locking up the summer that you kind of make. Jesus was one of those. I like up against alberta in on just. Jeez what am i doing here. He knows one of those games. I got sent down right after that game. And i was like like shit. You know this this is you know. I lost my opportunity at a poor attitude. Had down glen handling got me back on track in between remember at your well. I mean i saw going back to your first game. You probably remember everything did you. Were you so nervous that you feel like you weren't able to play your game giving you a thrown on the line with those guys. Now is one of those deals. Were made the team. We we fly down there on your practicing together Badran olsen. I'm just telling myself old-timer just play your game. Take it easy but it was like does couldn't fight. I couldn't tell myself that. I'm sitting addressable man. I'm really here. You know i've really done it in in play team minutes. We lost like to order something. A dash to in one of those deals yogurts. Shit anna really dropped the ball in s by me. I like just try to forget about the all those other things got me there. Just concentrate on my game just a. That's for sure. Well for people who've listened to adam oates on this podcast and in general. Talk if you've gone off sides probably what got you sent down. He thinks absolute muppet. If you go off sides in the game a hockey that could have been. That could have been something. That's slow down that quick. I stay department those four. I mean four years though. You're you're you're up and down you with washington tampa quick back with washington but every time you're in the h. o. Point per game. You're one of the top scores in that league. Is that one of those instances where it's like. I've done everything. I've can at this level but i keep getting called up to the nhl. I can't stick like what's going on. Why is this happening or are you thinking about that. As as you being sent back and forth. I think when you think back about god was just more or less being part of a team. I love the guys important at the time in there is more. It seemed like it was more of a job. You know any even when you wanna be there. But i called up and i played a power play a little bit of good on the on the goal line and then all of a sudden. It's like i'm on a fourth line right after. Chip it in watch you pass. You can turn over so as one of those deals. Were just going on glenn hanley down important in just be meet in our be able to be creative. I had more world. You know it was one of those deals and and you know it is not a lot of communication anders not. They're not telling you you get on your anything. Nothing here just your head. You're trying to you know it was just trying to be prepared as she can you get to the. Nhl and people don't even believe me like coaching pretty much stops like individual coaching. Yeah there's times assistant coaches work with guys but in the end it's like do your job and then they're also calling up first sign age players to play on the fourth line in the nhl. It's like bring up a third or fourth line guy from the team down there exactly act. Yeah totally yet set right. you're on your own. There's no communication you look at the the more board. Know what on your your question yourself. Why the fourth landed on second line. There's no so. Yeah it's a lot of your. You're kind of left. You left on an here little bit so so so you end up going off to finland at that point did you think maybe your nhl dream was over. And you're thinking. I might as well just go cash in myself and my family as opposed to continually trying to do the up and down thing. The time was my age. Was bill zito now. The florida panthers. Gm at the time. It was four years up down. Had my first born livia and we're basically up down sleeping in. You know the the top georgia residency. My daughter get called update. Come so it was like one of those. Like can you trade me. And they're like why would we trade basically in order to a great asset. I'd always go down or work. My bag off fight. whatever so. that's kind of what i did in it. Finally Trade me so then i went over. I was like okay billy. What's the best we're chagall right. Could go to russia chase the big buck but i just wanted to prove that complaint that nhl. So i went over there as a great hockey country. The two years there in lugano on a championship earning world championships for team canada got to see donald dell was back on the map Got up to get back in. I got all that confidence back. One of the lockout year in finland planning Blue all men low problem. I'm just going to seize guys in my head. I just get back. So i got back in kind of turn more than a player that i knew i could be. Yeah i think it's it's so true you go over to somewhere and you really find the joy of hockey again. You love the game no grande. You're playing first. Line and and helsinki. I think personally is one of the best cities. I've ever been to violate for all single. Men out there ever want to have fun. You speak english the helsinki. Oh my god but i mean makes sense. Now they're in the cage. I think so many guys wanna go play there. You get to play in in the russian league without having to live there Was big scandinivia. Organic your defense are amazing. Yeah i got deliberate in helsinki. So boys loved. Their son is in your blackness. Jose ask you. Did you get to play with fa- pool their val jeff. He must have been what he was like eighteen. Then maybe yeah you. Could you tell good. That guy was going to be your was great. Who's just moved up. Pro he's down here in tampa area. He gets he lives. I'm gonna china reconnect with himself. Seems like everybody. Everybody gravitates back door towards down there. You mentioned a couple of times you said you always knew her as good. You always knew you're as good. Have you always had that self confidence. That's been instilled in you or you felt you play at the top level. I think i just with the training arab Like we're a push myself to you. Know what i mean. Always working working out is hers. Ken and played as much. Hockey's can i just felt this interconference. You know putting the work in. And that's what i tell the kids now. Trae you guys got to put the work in you know and and you'll get discovered. So that's that's i guess it was an inner confidence your amina but it was enough flashy share. Swag i just go out there and do it metro find yourself back in the nhl specifically atlanta. We've got a few thrashes on the show lately. What was your experience. Like obviously didn't last too long but i i always like to get his perspective of the time there was just it felt just like such grassroots. Just didn't catch arm. You know but the team had their coble chuck in hosa. These guys are like world-class best players ever played with like unreal. But the city just didn't appreciate the town had there. Yes and i got treated at the end. There were also half point game. I believe Getting a play with coal. Check of him or bob. Hartley telling meals centerman Koby matchel you gotta put colby's fires like all won't he's turn the puck. I gotta drive the net to get back. You're gonna put out his late. Hires play defense too. Yeah yeah but it's a great experience. Go there and i went to saint louis. It was kinda one lowest feelings at guy's got y'all get treated with a contract deal with four first round picks. Went there in. Everyone's kind of sit not a pins and needles thinking or getting treated that you're finishes often here. I am with the a team that basically just gave up at that time with your am l. looking looking into boston so actually though quickly we kind of jumped ahead because when you play the two years and then you went to lugano who which my hope for. When i went to europe was to get to play in switzerland. They told me the agent. I was working. There was like there's zero chance because every guy wants to play it's the most beautiful country in the world. You've got to go there now. I know you said you ran into the world's that year but had you already resigned back in switzerland with maybe an nhl out. How did it all come about coming back and were there any other suitors. Besides the thrashers. No at that time was planning lugano having a great year. Asian at the time. New agent. Larry kelly can result said don's shown some interest in you already was one of those the also i knew always had that in the back. Lock to go back to lugano was leading the league in scoring and stuff so i knew that but my goal is to get back at any old prove everyone wrong so you could've stayed over there and made a lot more money. I in land. That's for sure but it was okay. It was part of my journey in artist wanted to play at the highest level in. Show everyone else. Good enough can compete at that level metro remember. We had you in boston just for. Yeah i mean. I thought you great brown was did they ever give a reason why they didn't want to bring it back for another year. I mean you had some pretty good success. Yeah yeah think. Those year that berge went down with a concussion. Randy johnson from behind that year and that that move me up in a more significant role was clad. Julian giving me you know. I was playing with the Chucky kobe shoe in a milan lose. We solved through line. Grind line in the year went on and getting better savvy. Krejci was getting better. Knows like well this will have for you. You're not going to be put on a fourth line. I'm like wow man by time to kind of test. The market a little bit nets counter. Where at a few other offers anaheim offered me to deal in infill. Leo's Filial two flyers. That's kind of that. Came about signed janet. Was it hard that you were never able to get comfortable anywhere at the at the nhl level where you kept bouncing around where you you've got your chance of boston. You're playing with all of a sudden you're out of there and then you're out of the next onto the next team kind of hurt a little bit right because you felt like the bruins finally part of an organization you know. Were at a significant wool. Why you know the the sports. I think they brought in the just whatever fourth leonard gnocchi collided played in anaheim with him yalo. We'll status but brought him in seven minute wall and That's kind of weird that the phillies came about. That's karma for you taking some fence job with yorker at those fears a. You've got to experience somebody that bruins fans on their forget is a nineteen year old milan. Nucci wear number sixty two for part of the season fighting anyone. It must have been jaw-dropping as veteran older guy. This kid doesn't give a shit took care visit our first First game was on the road replaced. La told it's that of analysts are was on us not as huge lose. Just go on are here we go. You know i was like okay in those looking. Down at ford's to sean thornton sammy's wallace kids. Kids got it. So what yes. I'll agree kidman kid. That's right you are lucky to play him watchos well for a couple of seasons. Obviously hockey royalty there. We talk about on the show all the time. And then you end up you know career high goals you have twenty nine points was at. How frustrating was it that they didn't bring you back. I mean i know. You'll get up there in age but you had What are your best prayer outputs and then they don't wanna off your contract. That must must've been pretty pissed up pretty frustrating. Let's thirty five right so that you know the game was getting younger than you know. I couldn't be timid guy with thirty six year old legs. So i can understand that philosophy in yeah. I didn't really have much on the table so it was kind of to hit back overseas. Could it have been That you you showed up late to the pre game meeting. I was talking to scotty gomez. And he mentioned one time you strolled in late. I don't. I don't know if you could tell the whole story for remember somewhat of the punchline john remember which basically you stroll in late and you're like oh sorry boy. Sorry boys day of a game right. Of course you're nervous you eat on. Maybe you're going to get taken out of the lineup. And after you can't apologize. Scotty gomez is looking over and he's realized you have tim horton's coffee in your hands and he's thinking in his head. Well this guy knew he was going to be late but he still had time to go. Stop and get a tim. Horton's coffee and apparently you got stuck at the through. I can't remember that story but a navy We'll talk to him about that one at. That's that's the only one he had for me as far as when talking to you that you have a pretty good shower voice while yeah. I'd like to say the skills competition they got every year. Every team has had fan day or whatever skills competition where i remember we played. They played the least the night before and it was sunday that we're gonna do it so i had all my family friends from toronto right to come in and i'm like you know we got sunday off. You'll come on watch. The gomez gio all these guys do some skill stuff. I didn't think i was doing it. So next on the game's over addressing street you know doing some shots and hanging haagen wrestling in get up like god man again. More than break in la county metro. You gotta be your your shoot. You're shooting at targets. Like noah and. I can't targets today you'll red i So we get up there in calories up the hits all four them. I'm like i'm like i'm gonna do. I'm gonna take slapper. Some team clapper's now so next thing on doing slapshot posited you'll teed it up clap at the last one will won. T blew it up. Whole crowd goes not said it was quite a woman is pretty funny. Oh my buddies are up there and watching. Like i can't even open my eyes right now and he sniping top left cheddar. What's going on here. This how much of a naturally is much just having fun with. The i heard a funny. I actually heard a funny story about how you got to boston i was. I was to tell me that this is incorrect. I was told you talked to michael cohen over was there and invited you to camp and couple of hours later you get a phone call. Eighty flights her all set this meeting into the airport from the secretary. You're like what you'd already just hopped in the car with your bagging was driving up from atlanta. No i was. Are you talking about from from montreal chillier. The boss thought it was going to boston. You just hop in the car didn't even wait for a flight to camp like i'll just drive up there. I don't give shit. I did well the deal that what happened in boston is dead. Make room for me but we had a. We had a contract kind verbally. We gotta make some room for Basically bowler the boiler may try out so it didn't work out you know but the that other story might have been skated philly in the morning. Get ready to play that night. Basically got wave. The afternoon i played against philli that night in a montreal jerseys which was went down. The hall just went down the hall. Yeah k. boys very now so when that happens so metro after you wrap up the nhl career. You are go to europe for seven years other than money. What's the priority when you going back over there like as location team you plan fall. What's what's the priority. Then what the time. Quality of life on story so twenty ten finished great. I'm kind of like. I'm ready to come over to europe i got. I got a good deal on a table from that. You're slop team. Lokomotiv in grad criminal was my coach in atlanta. Now's gonna sign a deal with them quite a bit of money and so happened. My why axe now but my wife at the time was like no we're taking. We're not going to kids. I'm like okay but man. The money's could set up some good so finally like we agreed on goes ugge Actually the year win the diploma award. So i dodged there in two years after having two years zoo adding a couple of offers. Get a big money in in russia. I just said no. I can't do that so the next best place gonna get money. Was switzerland right get called the life family and in debt on iran and then go to went to germany. Because i still want to keep playing. You know it was hard to get into. Switzerland still is right. There's only about three or four pro ports allowed although they do pay the best. It's a it's a very different style of game. They're over there isn't it. yeah Above guy finesse. Pretty much you know. But they're fast skilled players. I mean it's You gotta think about the coaching right. So you got the taco chuck over there too right to teach your younger player. So it's it's quite quite a country a really impressed by the skill level. I good buddies with taylor pyatt. And he went over there and He said some of the coaches have some very very odd. Philosophies and in some cases almost played like soccer. 'cause puck possession so important yeah Yeah it depends. On the coach. You had agreed coach. Lear here s where. He's from canada toronto area. We're kinda more north sell team but You know some other teams kinda Coaches at her. they're the more puck. Possession comeback come in waves regroup again regroup again. Just get more as much speed as possible. Like swinging down deep actually played for larry harrison. I signed with modo and played two games. I was like minus fifteen and retired because my ankle shopping. Larry was the coach. The team wasn't great. I think he ended up getting let go but he was a great guy at a lot of fun with them in training camp and i was wondering how it ended up for him in switzerland. Because you had some good teams playing for him right yeah. We agree great players. Petra new mulan. Elton to fence hinton salsa jason york was there yoga york defenseman Those wanted to teams to best imports. the money so they got the best guys pretty much in the swiss guys. Were really good too. So that's that's important for the top organizations. You get a better chance of when so many people game. How many people are the game at lake. Lugano zouk obligated. I think we held about six thousand fans packed every night book. The the home sexual was always packed. But i mean for some reason. You know what i mean. The the games not too many other fans were there but the loyal fans. That's for sure dude. A little bit smaller building but a better better feeling a little tighter act. A stake owner soccer match over your football. You know where it's chanting they got flares going and not as crazy as the fins defends are a little wacky. Are they not with a little bit wackier there so shift faced. I got three. Oh great Ara are jirga was against ifk which was kind of like the blue collar. We're kind of got. Our team had money Manager of the clashes dated have the riot police out there holes in people down. Hold on your plate hockey so you guys were the cake. Cake eaters and helsinki you guys. You guys were top. Notch like manchester city and all those top teams in the british premier league. Yeah we're pretty area yorker like throwing shit your bus on the way out of town hall or yeah metro of the fi. You could do one stop over again. Which would it be. Would you do some more time than Boston like you're saying lifted charlestown just love the diversity of the the city. It's sports town but any you plant. Nhl didn't matter where that'd be a great spot to kinda redo your loved it. They're not. I want one other time. I wanna mention. I think it might be one of the more underrated cities in pro. Hockey is portland. Means good time there portland scrape great not to get off the bus at four in the morning on three and three who's cold air but a love great restaurants you great great time to be able to bond with teammates and have a great time there to i love for the. Would you ever get into Coaching at a higher level. You're coaching your kids right now. But you're gonna look to get into to maybe something pro. I'm of folks more on just player development. You know what i mean. Just doing not really assistant coach coach in that way. I'm not. I'm not really aspire to that renowned kind of would be more of a consultant just helped players centerman ford's you know that's kind of where i'm at now. A good opportunity game then. Of course kind after tainted went renounced trying to work craft. You money is every day kids trading so my lawns daria. You got the ipads and all the skills coaches and all that stuff to keep up nowadays. I'm not jumping through hoops or any of that man. I'm not able to click some. I'm like let's let's get back to the fundamentals and master that you know. Learn how to use your speed. You know gear set just trying to start. The metro method. Giving back and helping kids. I'm surprised at the talent down here. In tampa men players are really good. I think i think we're professional. Teams are having success. You're seeing is a lot of guys starting to settle there and of course coach their kids. You're seeing these these hockey hotbeds. I mean saint louis has been thriving quite a bit. I mean you're starting to even see it. A little bit in phoenix and tampa. Bay's the same thing. yeah jack. Lillies guys are staying around. The he's still around the caveat. You got yield geordies around column. Got a lotta guys that are given wack coaching calia. Girardi around the shot blocking clinic. And then you win kellyanne. Injuries are senior. i've seen any of deadly. I've seen a few of the boys at around. Which are these kids. Don't realize i would have dreamed of. Just meet anybody that candidate he know like brad smith died. Meet any kind of maple leaf but These guys were around all the time kids taken for granted which is something else. The caveats teaching kids. How to toe drag around the kids callahan and gerardi or teach you how to go down and block. Day made forty million. I made a hundred teaching them how to parallel park ferrario front. Hey so you told me you guys just ripped it up after you took down the d. e. l. in mannheim couple nights come laughing not much sleep we're talking Yeah pretty pretty crazy times anytime. You can win a championship. It's the old visa next stadium back. Know just not up all the restaurants and keep going then. I was playing golf with him and he was like. Yeah then the next year we came we. We had kind of a long offseason and i came into camp with a groin injury. And maybe metros knees hurt then all of a sudden we decide good idea to golf at the owners. Course 'til plan the are gm sauce. We were both at practice. The next day that was in get thirty six all my knee blew up for some reason. I was pivoting around it. Perfectly though also shared set up. He said well metro. We wanna thank you for stopping by. I mean is there anything else you wanted to ask him ra. No i think we're good actually now. Now look at the counter october. Will you ever taken in october fest. While you're over there shit those crazy as they see. What is the setup. There what is it. Just you go there and sit down at those tables and drink looking like dress like those people or what can pretty much yet. It's a big deal you know. I had the old leader roles in the two hundred fifty bucks for this thing so this class so we get down. We have We play a game in nbc. You got the day off is face. The huge used tents were just. People just pounded pints. Sing in santa. You guys have got to be on your bucket list boys for sure. Is it like the calgary stampede. Version of the germans do it pretty much. Losing t made me at a team bus. That guy were leaving at ten o'clock on guys are missing a boss on a train in next day it was right in the outfits where you guys really decked out yeah is it. Is it a full part to show up without the outfit on because you see the pictures and everyone's all dolled up pretty much. Yeah you need to leader jose. Yeah you gotta let clack. Clack griswald european vacation. Look the part boys. Yeah thanks very much metro. It's good to catch up with you. And i mean long shot to make you did that so i know now that the zamboni at at moss park signed by you told so. It's pretty incredible story. Congratulations thank you guys. Thanks for stopping by pal. Stay at listen. You got a big decline metropol. Joining us definitely had a unique wrote to the show. I'm glad he was able to come on and tell everybody about it. And i got another no fight here. These fallen corrections brought to you by dude wipes do whites the original flushable wipes for guys in our great wiping enough. The shame when you screw up on your podcast. Everyone is stocking up on toilet paper with corona virus. And you need to be stocking up on dude wipes as dude wipes a better than toilet paper and multipurpose use anywhere on your body dude. Has many products. 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I'm using a bid to wipe off the shaimaa. I hate when. I make mistakes in the show. Last week we will talk about the reverse retro jerseys and people thought i was sitting on the devils. I wasn't shit on him. I just thought that you could previously get that green jersey before i fucked up. You couldn't read jersey. i was thinking of and that's something many people said some you Couple of people but they were nice about it. One guy said hey they never were green before it just just. Sometimes you memory plays tricks. Anion actually my boy frosty. He's the equipment guy. He called me out. That's person last year. So are you had a few screw ups on the last. Podcast also said that the canucks went to northern bc. They didn't go to northern bc. They just want a little north of vancouver. Why kind of just hopped it on that as well. Because i think annuity meant there was also another one. You said the world union guy. I'm going to be in red gear. Their their streak granola. If you want. I could do this. What are you gonna do. What are you gonna do. I do where i draw. Pig pilot over here. No and my next note. I did say the world was in red deer in edmonton and i did actually check the i h f site. If you go on it it still says red deer and edmonton. That's what i read. All turns out they said back in september they would just do an edmonson only bubble. It was in the midst of the plus. Probably said it on here. I forgot three months ago. I guess so yeah it wasn't read the edmonton but so maybe the i h f should take that off their website. I remember their websites trash. It would take them an hour to get the box score up after the world. Juniors when i was there it was bullshit. A look at your to apple's so what are you gonna goes player of the game against What's the country belarus. Speaking of world juniors. We're going to be. I believe we're trying to get kirby doc on and hope for caufield we're going to get a few of these guys. We're going to wrap up the tournament. Maybe we'll get them fucking chirp each other. I love is. They're playing on christmas this year. You're off the wait till boxing day. Where they're playing on christmas. Bud got something that chill and watch on the tube. Christmas day the light a fire have a couple. Three cheese in ge's melted. The coach speaking of vancouver is not northern bc. Grenell it's in the south west but the anthem amok donnelly apparently is dunzo. He was saying at an anti mask event somewhere. I assume the vancouver area Connects owner francesco. I actually tweeted out on the former singer. I don't know if he was on the ropes prior to that but apparently that was all the owner had to see in the guy who looks like an opera singer. He looks second. He looks like an opera cigarettes date fair. That's really looks. Like like goes really let himself goal like a couple of years after he left the negative gassed. He wa- singing somewhere where nobody had masks on. Oh oh okay okay. Yeah that's like funnier cliff. Then then people chirp looking like luanda was when he was doing the anthem but he decided to put the blades on and he's just ripping around belting it out and he's killing and as the spotlights fallen we like. Oh there's a matt in the middle. The i said there's no way he's going to be line right for that mask. Or for the mets accuse me completely didn't realize they're put one up there just goes full tilt right into the matt asked flat on his face. He didn't really skip a beat though. He kept going pretty good performance. But he's he's had he's eating a few l's that's for sure if you if you watch the video it's so obvious that the rugs right there. You're like oh we has to be planning a big stop like when louise are learns how to stop to and he and then all of a sudden you're like all he ain't stopping and it's just the mother of all to- pex if i was on the line of whoever was on the line staring at that and watching it i would've started crying laughing right before the game. Real really all man. There's one person. I don't know if it was world junior her world championship but there was a canadian woman who they brought out and she she messed up the anthem and she got so embarrassed she walked back in and then finally they like no. No no you can do it in called her back on and as soon as she as soon as she stepped on the ice she she slipped on the rug and she was like my monday. That sounds like my shit on. It was one of the most awkward tough scenes. And if i ever had to sing an anthem i need the whole thing. Written down on the jumbotron not would help either. Because i'm barely fucking read but just as just as a safety net. The anthem thing is you could know the anthem. But the minute you step on that rug or or you're performing it like all like a karaoke bar in philadelphia biz. That's true you think you could go the whole. Us anthem at the boston garden flawlessly. Whether whether or not your voice shit or not. But like the whole. I don't even know the words right now. I need somebody to sing. And i'll sing along like i could never just belt out. Oh say dude. I can't even get into it right. I i'm trying to think i'd be done within ten seconds. All right can use the words but i can't. I can't sing it. Lick and i know that became on going back to the anthem singer. Though a lot of people are making this push right now and it's a girl i believe. I don't know if i follow her on twitter. Let me find it here quickly. Everybody's trying to get her to be the next anthem singer. And i hope i get this right mary who i. It's h you i. Is that right hawaii who. I'm not sure to be honest with you. But what we butcher enough names on. So the classics story that he's bring up then asking us if we know. I know i suck with the fucking names. But she's a singer songwriter. She's from vancouver. She's done the anthem there before. A lot of people are vouching for so. I think she's the next candidate to be the anthem singer for the so. Sorry for butchering that story forever. Now i'm going to get. We're gonna get roasted by connects twitter again for christ's sake. Naw clyde fucking don't start that again who biz. Obviously dow florida. We mentioned earlier. I was walking down the street the other day i look over and i see a fucking legit delorean a driveway like the from back to the future like it has registered here like i. Don't the guy still drives out in asking. But i ve night pictures of it but legit delorean currently registered. I'm assuming perry takes. Sunday drives but pretty wild. Those things seem like a you know an al bino fucking elp in the while. You don't see them yeah. I didn't really know what to give you there now. I was going to bring up. And i think you re posted at austin matthews. Is you stabbed himself as the new quad. Zillah the nhl manelli. He's like porn is fucking shorts up and should he's like he's basically telling showing 'em he's got. Yeah he's got many fridges in his quads built in he. He's he looks like if if you got buried and had to have surgery and then like you know you have a scar forever like it looks like it's swollen that makes any sense dip fucking begged days. They stood out. I i like the fact that those two and working together man you gotta think they can only make each other better. You know on the program passes. And i was wondering if scores considering they're going to be in the same division now mcdavid and matt. I think they're sharing chef to really. That's what have you been any of their skates or yeah. I probably skates me. Peer video for breakfast. He's got a joe. Louis the cigarette and the diet pepsi and sponsor the podcast if not we can just leave that out anyway but yeah no. It's awesome that those guys are working together. But no. I have not been over that scape. But i've been over to awesome matthews crib. He lives in arizona off season and great trainer. Interested to see how the season's gonna play out for him because of the actions been going down down here as far as the high end training. Even with the coyotes like all these guys have been together going to the trainer and most of the guys are on the ice together so if anything counties have an advantage going on this one so they're the favorite get. Get the fucking gambling corner. Ira tell cup. I get. I get the la rams at fifty five to one not too bad right now. Oh so you're rooting against the pats tonight. Well not necessarily. It's just one game. I don i mean me that union. The evening for sure. There'll off somewhere in there right now. Yeah a record so much. I'm the run. I'm the wrong guy to ask and up to date fills debts. You're the right guy to ask about this this New television show. I don't know if it's a movie. Mario lopez he's playing kfc. Have you seen this trailer. That got re- got launched now is that i saw that. I thought it was a joke. I thought it was an ad. I had do a double take there so i thought it was a spoof. It first but apparently it's real but it might in fact be paid for by. Kfc just to make this. This shark nato type film to where. It's so ridiculous in the storylines crazy in this trailer. Has everybody intrigued as to what's going on signed Then i've said it's a lifetime movie like what does that mean. Well lifetime movies of like kind of cheesy soap opera type movies made for well. I wouldn't say the not geared toward the male population not being misogynistic here but basically lifetime movies are kinda cheesy. Love story type movies that you know Skew toward more the female by relation. So they're not known for we'll sanders. They're not known for like you know you're not going to see in the acc slater's putting colonel sanders. Correct and shifting away. From that queen's gambit was awesome. Not only the whatever happened but the music just kind of put it to a different level very good seven episodes really really good show on fox. Did that show end was an obvious ending or is there a second season. I don't wanna give away the end. Okay thank you and we'll we'll episode one. I'll watch tonight will grab me or will i be like hundred the whole the whole hook. The show is episode. One it just pulls you write. It gets into perfect. That's what i need some breaking bad. This shows where it does take a little bit. And it's gotta get your early because it's only seven episodes true very true very true. You guys are masters the tv world. I know i mentioned before. But i will again ted lasso if you have apple tv plus it's a show. I put on a couple of times before i get into it. Fantastic show In other one busy out if you have apple tv plus give it a whirl. It's one of those you might need a couple episodes to get rolling but once you do. It's a it's a fantastic show Get another note here. you see brake. Dancing is going to be part of the twenty twenty four paris olympics wet. The i mean it's a hell of a skill but it seems like something that maybe would have been more relevant thirty years ago. I think it's fucking joke that that could be in lupus when you think of the lacrosse but break dancing in the olympics. I don't need to talk. i don't even need to give my argument grenell. Boom i think what they're doing is they're trying to like they're trying to create these events to where it will go viral and they're they're almost thinking to four to like what they're trying to catch the curve or whatever. It is but As you said. I think this is like a little bit outdated. But i'm very intrigued to the first year and how it's going to be introduced and the fact that they're taking out all these like traditional sports that was originally why the whole limpets was created to me is is mind boggling. But ultimately they're trying to they're trying to transition into what like people online. We'll be talking about right while dude. If you're actually going to think of the olympics in what you consider it to mean like you think of jesse owens in mark spitz and the nineteen eighty olympic team and mike fucking michael johnson and atlanta. And then you got. J.lo's backup from draft video. What the fuck you. It's a great secretion lympics. Three dancing you can. I wish i could. I sucked down. And i'm not saying that's not my argument here. I would love to be able to break dance if you could tell me could break in. That'd be i can't even move your argument as j.lo's backup dancer. It's not the battle. Yeah exactly exactly like. I have a silver medal. I don't need my silver medal from my seventeen seconds wade to be tarnished by some guy who who has gone like a dance studio in boston some kid on fucking tiktok doing stupid break dancing video gold medal and you could be a tiktok who comes in grabs the gold like the wheaties box. It has it has to have fucking neon colors for the break dancer. Who won the gold for the us. He'd be getting more airtime than jerome again. All god. i don't play. I don't blame the person interviewing them at all right like i don't even knew who it was. Not one hundred percent. They had no chance which makes it even more actually. It doesn't even actually. It's not even just the interview though. Because then whoever put it on and edited the film back at the studio wasn't like oh my god like that strom again. But if you're not a hockey fan and your job how do you. I mean he. He only played boston for one year. It so it's not like he was here for a long time. Where like someone works in a newsroom. Even if they're not in sports immediately recognize them just for those listening they were doing one of those men in the street interviews all man at a rest stop in the woman interviewed. Nah jerome again. La like talking about snow and he was like i'll again that this is not been about buffalo by kinda gave stock hockey player. Ansa and people call up the station. I do you realize that was jerome again. And like the woman didn't realize it but then a bunch of other interviews came up similar circumstances. Somebody grabbed roberta. Longo doing a man on the street of alexander ovechkin at a gas station. And then there's a larry it's klay thompson he was in new york and they stopped them and asked them about scaffolding in new york city and he his like dead series. Answer that's hilarious. There's one ovechkin yeah. He was at a gas station and it. It didn't appear the person of you. No he was like the superstar russian player enough for the local team. I loved her own. One was about the weather. Wasn't it about the snow kind of had that feel to it. Did you ever see the to jogging. the two joggers. Excuse me the couple. And they're like actually you know when it snows like this. It's kind of like an extra little cushion on the ground. They do the interview and she's like. Oh yeah so confident. And then they ended up trotting off and she slips on a sheet ice and in writing the concussion protocol. she's out four to six obey slight. it's not funny. Obviously seeing someone get hurt. It's not funny but like she was so confident about the fact that this snow on the ground is going to help cushion anything that was happening and donc saw on snow. I'm walking like so. I'm walking the same way. You think a guy who get fooled by a twitter give email fish. That's how i'd be walking so careful. I have trouble balancing on the concrete. Hey best jehovah juve. Hbo or access stage bill on your tv access to hbo. You got to know. There's a show is called. How to with john wilson. It's fucking hilarious bench. There's like six episodes twenty five minutes each in this guy. He records random all new york city and then he'll take a theme and he'll i kind of build the video around the theme. It's wicked clever. Dude it's kinda how to describe when you watch you dude you laugh your balls off great obviously of smoke a joint and watch it. 'cause it's like it's a wicked stone a comedy but it's also like this guy the way he edits what's happening in new york city with what he's saying and he doesn't seem each episode ties altogether. Dude you can piss like three hours. It's fucking. It's a little out there. But i i highly recommend that it's it's It's to clean game gaming. I i i know we've been rambling on quite a bit I didn't tell you about my my neighbor situation last week. We'll just like i've been. I've been moved in here for a while for this new place and new apartment. Same complex i was in the neighbor above me dislike bowling balls. Hit the floor points in time for for hours on end. And i'm a heatedly ordure second brandon times like just odd that can pattern to where you're you're on my case somebody wrestling up there like you know. Is there a fucking bowling. Yeah are they sue. I don't know what's happening because the patterns aren't necessarily similar all the time or from any of these sequences so finally got to one night. It kept going for about an hour. And i said the to katy and i'm trying to be patient neighbor here because i've been a young guy in the past and probably created a little bit of noise my neighbors So i so. I say i gotta go say something so i i go up and i'm high as a kite when i find. They have to decide that. So i go upstairs knock on the door and this little nerdy guy answers the door and he's out of breath and in mind you going into the something gag ball in his mouth this. This could have a swing set up as goddamn living room interrupting as orgasm and i'm getting Jeremy ab- lonski. Who's yeah you ever get done k. Cave my goddamn facing so this you know fairly. I don't want to say nerdy but just a common looking guy marandus outta breath and i'm like some relief that it's not jeremy lewandowski you can knock me out and i'm like hey man i've been waiting to come up and say something but you guys are just like you're pounding on the floor and he's all yeah we were just finishing up our ping pong match and they on the piece of granite on the island. They made out of with seem like a cardboard from pizza boxes. They separated and half and they're playing this ping pong match between three guys where it continued. I don't know even know it was like chinese running around. Yeah running around trampling. And so i finally was no all good. But they've continued to keep playing. No so do i have to go. Challenges fucking guide to game to say. Hey if you beat me in this island ping pong match keep playing. Play all fucking night. I don't care. But if i beat you there's no more ping pong being played on your plate you play ping pong. No but i would get a trainer. And i'd fucking dummy this guy and i i wanna record it the show you guys when i'm dealing with your do you think i've been fairly reasonable neighbor. Yeah you know what i would. You don't really necessarily have to go up there now that you have once you could grab like a twig behind you just like hammer into the ceiling yourself. A couple of. I tried the cops stealing try to know. And they don't care they music pumping and the run around the kitchen. Yeah i mean that that's that goes a little bit. They're not doing anything that they like need to be doing right. And they're kind of ruining your. I wonder what the i wonder what the public thinks. But if i'm you immediately getting i'm trying to be patient but i'm ready to put my sweatband on. Fuck this guy up in a match ping pong shot his ass down. All the al name was ping pong king. Nineteen my screen name anyway. Started bore you guys with that story. But that's what's going on with the business that just wingo dude. When you're at home a chilling all of a sudden boom noises that come out of nowhere that would drive me insane so rub it in. No we got force fucking dumpsters buzzing around anything else. We got here. i don't grenell. He's getting a little tired. Edit this bad boy. I think that's just about unless you have any other stuff you guys wanted to delve into. I think we quite a. I can't think of anything that we didn't get into. Oh actually when we told you guys. We're going one a week first. Round playoffs to we'll be pumping onto week or the beginning of playoffs. At least where we're kind going and when we have you know that much action be talking about so. I i wanted to mention that and was there another thing. I wrote something down. No we can wrap up a fun. Pod big. thank you to alan walsh. That was very interesting. Wouldn't wouldn't sewer flurry the mean god. And the little guy. 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